[02:45] early morning humour http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/humor/shoot-self-in-foot.html [03:11] and useful stuff [03:11] http://www.makeuseof.com/dir/qsnipps-store-snippets-of-code-for-later-use/ [05:38] morning [06:08] Morning Squirm [06:27] morning all [06:31] good morning === Kilos is now known as QA === QA is now known as Kilos [06:55] hi zeref [07:00] hi hi [07:02] yo kbmonkey howzit [07:04] hi kilos [07:04] oh dear i think my airtime just ran out [07:04] lol [07:04] eeek [07:05] how you Kilos [07:05] hi Kilos [07:05] ok ty kbmonkey [07:24] so tired this morning [07:30] hi Squirm [07:30] late night [07:40] umm [07:40] 2 hours sleep :/ [07:40] * Squirm shrugs [07:41] going to sit at the dam today [08:19] sit and sleep but no in the sun [08:19] hehe [08:27] Hey Kilos [08:27] hiya magespawn [08:29] have you got your server connected to a router? [08:29] yes [08:30] I let the router control the ip addresses for my network [08:30] maybe thats why im struggling so. mine is direct cable to this pc and iptables arent working good [08:31] what if one installs server on a second drive in a pc? [08:31] might it then go via first drive to 3g? [08:32] No you can only have one boot os as far as i know [08:32] the direct cable should work fine [08:33] i noticed when i added the maverick drive there maverick didnt see it but the server saw maverick [08:34] its a serious business setting up iptables to actually work. i got the server once to ping google but it couldnt do an update [08:34] now i dont even get it to do that anymore === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [08:51] magespawn, can i bug you? [08:51] how do you get the server to cp from a flash drive [08:56] when i plug in a stick here i get [08:57] assuming drive cache write through then no caching page present a few times then it just stays there but sees the stick as sdb [09:00] cp=copy? [09:00] ya [09:01] like i cant get to rsync via /media/stick or /dev/sdb/ [09:01] You would you the path to your flash drive then the path to where you want to copy [09:02] its the correct path i cant find [09:02] Ah right hold on asec [09:03] on ubuntu i use rsync -av /media/packs/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ [09:04] df -h [09:04] That should show all the mount points [09:05] Let me go to pc [09:06] nothing there about sdb at all [09:06] and i cant even paste the output anywhere [09:07] /dev/mapper/slowP4-root and /dev/sda1 [09:07] gandcnet2@gandcnet2-desktop:~$ df -h [09:07] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [09:07] /dev/sda1 293G 9.2G 269G 4% / [09:07] udev 430M 4.0K 430M 1% /dev [09:07] tmpfs 175M 820K 174M 1% /run [09:07] none 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock [09:07] none 437M 88K 437M 1% /run/shm [09:07] that is before the flash [09:07] ya like that [09:08] where is the stick [09:08] ah [09:08] and after is shows /dev/sdb1 7.5G 3.2G 4.3G 43% /media/3935-193F [09:08] at the bottom [09:08] aw mine doesnt [09:08] so this means that tha it is not mounting or it is not working at all [09:10] did you set it to auto mount? [09:10] no it says assuming drive cache: write through then doesnt go back to prompt again [09:11] i never saw any settings like that [09:11] me neither [09:12] lol [09:12] leme try mount it [09:13] grrr it says you must specify the filesystem type [09:14] maybe i must format the stick to ext4 first because it seems to look for ext 4 and 2 [09:14] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB maybe look here [09:14] ty [09:15] no it should work with the other file systems too [09:16] VFS: cant find ext4 filesystem [09:16] error: cant find ext2 filesystem on dev sdb [09:16] grrr [09:16] oh and dconf-tools will only work on a gui system [09:17] if i could just get it to go online with 3g id install a gui [09:17] lol [09:17] Maaz, google how to setup an ubuntu server to use a 3g modem [09:18] Kilos: "Configure Micromax MMX 352G USB 3G Modem and ... - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/143394/configure-micromax-mmx-352g-usb-3g-modem-and-aircel-in-ubuntu-server-12-04-to-co :: "10.10 - How to install 3G mobile broadband? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/8441/how-to-install-3g-mobile-broadband :: "NetworkManager/Hardware/3G - Ubuntu [09:18] Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G :: "[ubuntu-za] 3G modem" https://li… [09:22] maybe im getting somewhere [09:22] sudo fdisk -l shows it as /dev/sdb1 [09:24] was about to ask what fdisk shows [09:24] lol [09:25] it might be easier to share the network connection than set up the modem on the server [09:26] what a job to read this [09:26] sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137 [09:27] here and type it on server [09:28] no copy/paste [09:28] can you not ssh to the server via the network cable? [09:33] yoohoo [09:33] you winning Kilos? [09:33] it is now seen as /media/external [09:33] and rsync running [09:34] excellent [09:34] can you ssh to the server Kilos? [09:34] so the big job is to let it be able to do an update [09:34] i dont know what that is magespawn [09:35] hold on a sec [09:35] i can ping it from here but not from there back again [09:35] Secure Shell or SSH is a network protocol that allows data to be exchanged using a secure channel between two networked devices [09:35] so you set up a ssh server on the serve pc [09:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html [09:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring [09:38] very useful then you can control both computer using just one keyboard/monitor setup [09:39] ty i will look there [09:39] i used the openssh choice [09:40] had to mkdir /media/external for external sticks etc [09:41] so much that ubuntu does for us one doesnt realise till you try a server [09:41] gui i mean [09:42] maybe this is what zeref was looking for yesterday as well [09:42] ty magespawn [09:42] yup but it is a good way to learn [09:43] i love ssh [09:43] you are right [09:50] Kilos do you use youtube? [09:51] to watch videos etc? [09:51] i have an account there but never go look at stuff [09:52] getting software is a far better use of data [09:53] why you ask? [09:53] youtube does use a lot, but there are a lot of tutorials [09:54] i just got some on drive repairs [09:55] if i go there often my 8ta bundle wont make 2 months [09:58] thats true [09:59] thats is one thing the govenment does not seem to understand about internet access [10:00] as long as there is money to be made peeps will limit everything they can to make more money [10:01] especially mobile broadband providers [10:15] so weird, i can ping 8.8.8.8 from server but cant do an update [10:19] what is 8.8.8.8? [10:20] the mobile guys are stuck with the bandwidth provided with the international cables etc [10:20] google [10:24] really? [10:24] thats what the fly said methinks [10:24] yo superfly [10:25] when i ping www.google.co.za i get this ip 74.125.233.88 [10:25] lemme try that [10:25] hi Kilos [10:26] and when i ping www.google.com i get this ip 74.125.233.49 [10:27] i get unknow host www.google.co.za and .com [10:27] but can ping 8.8.8.8 [10:27] grrr [10:28] magespawn, how do you now use this ssh thing to see the other pc [10:28] a link will do [10:29] open a terminal on your pc then type ssh username@ipaddress where username is the name of the user on the server and the ip is the ip address of the server [10:29] ah ok ty [10:29] a ssh server has to be running on the server though first [10:30] oh my and i cant install it till i get it online [10:30] isnt that openssh the server [10:31] yes [10:31] ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.2 port 22: Connection refused [10:31] grrr [10:34] worked from server to here and made its own key thing [10:34] hehe [10:34] did you read that link i posted? [10:34] looks like your desktop is blocking incomming connections [10:35] its the server that i coudnt ssh from here [10:35] but worked from server to here [10:36] i didnt do the key part in that link. didnt know what to do but will look again [10:37] which pc is the host now this one or the server [10:42] host for what? [10:42] the ssh? [10:47] whew [10:48] ssh-keygen -t dsa [10:48] generates keys from each pc but i cant do this [10:48] ssh-copy-id username@remotehost [10:49] from either pc [10:49] an easier way to do it would be to use iptables to restrict access to specific ip address. not as secure [10:51] i have setup iptables in nm for the 2 different ips [10:54] ssh-copy-id miles@192.168.1.2 [10:54] /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found [10:54] can the username be the same? [10:55] yes [10:56] as far as i remember [10:56] then i dunno why it cant copy then [10:56] or you can set up a user with restricted access for the ssh [10:56] i forget much too Kilos [10:56] one pc is miles@192.168.1.1 [10:57] other is miles@192.168.1.2 [10:57] hehe [10:58] maybe its something in the ssh conf file i gotta change [11:00] i gotta go eat [11:00] be good meantime [11:00] ty for the help magespawn [11:01] np [11:10] magespawn, Kilos: openssh server is not installed by default on desktops [11:11] ahh so maybe that is the problem then [11:11] there is nothing wrong with your configuration or you firewall [11:12] i th [11:12] what would be the problem with the ping then [11:12] ? [11:13] routing [11:14] okay [11:15] oh, you can ping ip addresses but not domain names? [11:15] explain please [11:15] DNS forwarding [11:15] * superfly didn't see the whole story [11:16] Kilos can ping the his server from the desktop but not vice versa [11:21] magespawn: ah, yes, most likely routing [11:22] so the server does not know where to send the packets? [11:22] most likely [11:23] though that's a little strange [11:24] i can ping both ways magespawn [11:24] * superfly is starting to get used to this swiping [11:24] cool Kilos [11:24] nice hey superfly [11:25] firewalls purged superfly [11:25] magespawn: pretty cool [11:25] arno and ufw [11:25] gotta go, bbl y'all [11:25] go well magespawn [11:26] still love my n900's physical keyboard more [11:27] all good there superfly ? put on some weight [11:27] ? [11:27] kilos, why are you running two firewall programs at the same time? [11:27] can one wget updates [11:27] Kilos: no extra weight yet [11:28] forgot ufw was there when i installed arno to try the sharing 3g bit [11:29] my server can ping 8.8.8.8 but cant do sudo apt-get update [11:29] so maybe a restriction somewhere [11:36] no, just DNS not set up properly [11:38] Kilos: type: cat /etc/resolv.conf [11:39] # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) [11:39] # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN [11:39] nameserver 127.0.0.1 [11:39] yes, there we go. [11:40] hehe what do you see? [11:41] wrong ip for server? [11:46] how would one edit that and not let it be overwritten [13:11] superfly, sorry to bug you. when i gedit that resolve.conf [13:11] do i add the ip of this pc or the server? [13:11] i mixed up some. this is the ssh server right and that is just a server pc [13:12] good afternoon all [13:12] hi Kilos [13:12] hi charl_ [13:21] i'm looking at the fibre optic deals, i could get 100mbps for only about 3 euro per month more than what i'm paying already [13:21] it's time they upgrade my city to fibre :) [13:21] wow [13:22] yeah i don't know why the city where i live is lagging behind [13:22] i'm not really happy with my current cable provider because i am paying 53 euro per month for 60mbps [13:22] ouch thats not cheap [13:23] i'm thinking i should downgrade to dsl, then i pay 23 euro per month but i get only 29 mbps [13:23] but that's less than half what i'm paying now for half the bandwidth [13:23] but ziggo (my cable provider) has monopoly at this point, that's why the prices are so high [13:23] not that the service is bad, i've never had my connection die on me or anything [13:24] ah [13:25] what i also don't get is that the pirate bay is being blocked on ziggo even though pirating is legal in the netherlands [13:25] i don't care about pirating too much but i do care about net neutrality [13:26] hi Mezenir [13:26] what you want to pirate? [13:27] no like i said i don't care about the pirate bay, but it's against net neutrality [13:52] good pirates end up walking the gang plank [13:58] lol [13:58] but that's not the point, they could have been blocking any ip address, it's the principle behind it [13:58] the principle is that they should not be able to block any given ip address [13:59] lol ya i understand [14:00] this looks like a great course, but it's quite expensive: http://www.w3devcampus.com/writing-great-web-applications-for-mobile/ [14:01] when i see the price tag i think "i'll just figure it out myself and do some googling" [14:01] but if you work for a company and they have a budget for training... [15:23] * Squirm stretches [15:23] Kilos: guess what happened to me at the dam today :/ [15:23] lol tell [15:23] sunburn [15:23] aw no man [15:23] :P [15:23] but [15:23] you have no idea how much suncream I used :/ [15:24] some are just a waste of money [15:24] nivia [15:24] 30spf [15:24] wow [15:24] oh well [15:24] if I go tomorrow I'm wearing a shirt all day [15:24] do you tan or just burn and peal [15:25] umm [15:25] I used to tan [15:25] vinegar will help for the burn [15:25] but since I've come back from the UK, I don't think I've quite built up my base tan properly [15:25] and vicks will help so you dont peal [15:25] I may peel again [15:26] vicks should help prevent pealing [15:26] and vinegar should stop the eina [15:26] not that sore [15:27] have you googled how to prevent pealing after sunburn [15:27] I just try aqueous cream [15:27] if you can save from pealing then your base tan should stay [15:28] yeah, I think I was burned as well, cause it's kind of new skin. I haven't finished peeling from last Friday [15:28] lol [15:28] but yoh, the sun was hot today. easily 30deg [15:28] yeah today was 33 here by us [15:28] and I got my skii and wakeboard [15:29] bbl, pool time ;) [15:30] k === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [17:03] * Squirm yawns [17:04] * Squirm prods Kilos [17:04] hi Squirm Cantide [17:04] hehe [17:04] Kilos: good weekend? [17:04] is today not saturday? [17:05] it's Sunday... [17:05] if so weekend still got another day to go [17:05] but has it been good so far? [17:06] kinda if my server would listen to me [17:06] what's it doing? [17:06] ...or not doing [17:07] i installed the ssh stuff here too but can ssh from server to here but not the other way around [17:07] have you started the service? [17:07] hey Kilos :) [17:07] then storm comes and kills power twice so i left the server off now [17:07] Squirm '< [17:07] ya [17:08] hello Cantide [17:08] Kilos: firewall not getting in the way? [17:08] it kinda refused or something [17:08] maybe try `ufw disable` [17:08] purged all firewalls everywhere [17:08] test it [17:09] wait some its booting [17:09] so connection refused? [17:09] I'd say firewall or service isn't running [17:10] # service ssh start [17:10] must i install anything on the server too [17:10] on the server, you just need the openssh-server [17:10] ok i chose that [17:12] job is already running [17:12] and you still can't login? [17:12] with this command [17:13] ssh miles@192.168.1.2 [17:13] yes [17:13] thats the servers ip [17:13] ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.2 port 22: Connection refused [17:13] Kilos: on the server, try ssh miles@127.0.0.1 [17:14] ok sec [17:14] connection refused [17:15] thew fly said it was here [17:15] try this on the server, cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep Port [17:15] it should be 22 [17:15] though it's a long shot that it isn't [17:16] and I know you said it was running [17:16] ps aux | grep sshd [17:17] no such file or directory [17:18] Kilos: are you sure you have openssh installed? [17:18] openssh-server [17:18] ya i chose the top option it was openssh something [17:18] apt-get install openssh-server [17:19] it should tell you if you have it installed [17:19] or if `which sshd` returns anything [17:19] sshd in red at the end of ps aux | grep sshd [17:20] hmm, so you have sshd [17:20] but the config file doesn't seem to be there [17:21] wait lemme find what the fly said to do [17:21] cat /etc/resolv.conf [17:22] # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) [17:22] # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN [17:22] nameserver 127.0.0.1 [17:22] where that ip comes from [17:22] then I still think this command should have worked [17:22] ssh miles@127.0.0.1 [17:23] The authenticity of host '127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. [17:23] ECDSA key fingerprint is 10:a1:ec:28:08:11:8b:72:6e:a0:1d:c5:c9:6f:4a:ed. [17:23] Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? [17:24] yes [17:24] yes [17:24] type yes [17:24] hehe [17:24] oh wait, did you type that command on the server? [17:24] no here [17:25] oh [17:25] you just ssh'd into your pc from your pc [17:25] should i have done it there [17:25] no [17:25] Kilos: try and copy /etc/ssh/sshd_config from your pc to your server [17:25] or an example [17:25] http://slexy.org/view/s2xXdsAHkA [17:25] eeek [17:26] does your server have internet? [17:26] no i have 3g here [17:26] maybe copy it onto a flash drive [17:27] and put it in the same place on the server. then from the server do a `service ssh restart` [17:27] I skiied once today and wakeboarded once today. but my legs are like jelly :/ [17:27] more skiing in the morning :) [17:28] that's the best way to get fit - keep at it :) [17:29] i need a command to copy that file please [17:29] Cantide: I try, I just don't have a boat. so I have to rely on other people [17:29] Kilos: to where [17:29] flash here is media 4G [17:30] so, `cp /etc/ssh/sshd_config /media/4G` [17:30] ? [17:30] /media/4G/ [17:31] then on your server, as root. `cp /media/4G/sshd_config /etc/ssh` [17:31] whats the little ' at the end for [17:31] it's just to denote it's a command [17:31] no there it is /media/external [17:31] had to mkdir /media/external there [17:31] the just substitute it for 4G [17:32] ok lemme go there now [17:33]