[00:00] <UltimaKR> still searching...the 7800 GT seems very nice, but unless you buy used i dont think you can beat $150
[00:00] <user82> agsel, delete permanently and use the space for something else?
[00:01] <user82> agsel, that i would do with a live system and gparted
[00:01] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: if you want to go a couple of tiers up for only $49.99, take a look at this one http://www.amazon.com/nVidia-Geforce-512MB-Graphics-S-Video/dp/B006P0RZF2/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1356738957&sr=8-16&keywords=geforce+7800+gt
[00:01] <agsel> user82: the swap was just in the way. I had partitioned my drive like: 6GB, swap, the rest 24GB. I wanted just to extend my 2GB part
[00:02] <agsel> bekks: thanks, that did it
[00:02] <jak2000> i deleted the data dir: /var/lib/mysql (the content) now do: sudo -i    then apt-get install mysql-server    but again type new password and retype, and then get this message :http://pastebin.com/e2rEzwqw then how to remove cokpletly the previous mysql installation? thanks
[00:02] <SunMoonStar> SunMoonStar: test
[00:03] <shaolin77> I think it can go a bit higher...I want to avoid any of the 8xxx series and lower
[00:04] <shaolin77> lets narrow it some more...no less that 1GB
[00:04] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: that one had 512MB of dedicated RAM, which is nice...define lower though because for example 6200 is better than the 8000
[00:05] <user82> does nvidia still support older cards like the 8xxx series?
[00:06] <blackshirt> user82, i think opensource driver version has a great support for 8xx series
[00:07] <shaolin77> according the new drivers nvidia is working for Ubuntu/linux they suggest 8xxx and up
[00:08] <Dave2> cd hexchsrfeg
[00:08] <Dave2> ./hex
[00:08] <shaolin77> now that Steam Linux is out I wouldnt mind using that but the current card 7300 LE doesnt seem to be supported with the 310 experimental drivers just recently released
[00:08] <troop> why linux font rendering is so bad?
[00:09] <bman_> Just installed ubuntu and it is running really slow. like a 1 1/2 sec lag from clicking the mouse and it regiatering
[00:10] <troop> bman_ remove amazon lens
[00:10] <mwmnj> Any nginx buffs around?
[00:10] <mwmnj> I am having trouble getting a zend site up: http://dpaste.com/854998/plain/
[00:10] <moon`> how do I uninstall google earth?  sudo apt-get purge google-earth does not work
[00:10] <dr_willis> moon`:  how did you install it?
[00:10] <bman_> Ok will try. Its weird that last time it didnt do it
[00:11] <shaolin77> http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Delivers-Massive-Performance-Boost-to-Linux-Gaming-8ac.aspx
[00:11] <moon`>  dr_willis: wget http://dl.google.com/dl/earth/client/current/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
[00:11] <moon`> dr_willis: sudo dpkg -i google-earth*
[00:12] <dr_willis> moon`:  and apt-get remove gives any error>
[00:12] <dr_willis> moon`:  and apt-get remove gives any error messages?
[00:12] <moon`> dr_willis: that gave me an error so then I used sudo apt-get install -f
[00:12] <shaolin77> newegg doesnt have a filter for powersupply requirements :(
[00:12] <moon`> unable to locate package google-earth
[00:13] <moon`> E: Unable to locate package google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb'
[00:13] <dr_willis> moon`:  use the proper package name. NOT the file name.
[00:13] <dr_willis>  google-earth-stable  seems tobe the package name. i think
[00:13] <shaolin77> If I'm reading the chart from Toms Hardware right the  Nvidia 450 is a significant jump any thoughts on this?
[00:13] <moon`> dr_willis: thank you
[00:13] <Cavisty> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-dnb-j-anderson
[00:13] <dr_willis> Preparing to replace google-earth-stable 6.2.2.6613-r0 (using google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb) ...
[00:13] <dr_willis> Unpacking replacement google-earth-stable ...
[00:14] <dr_willis> that said the package name. ;) i think... checking now
[00:14] <moon`> no google-earth-stable was the package name. Thank you sir
[00:14] <dr_willis> Package 'google-earth-stable' is not installed, so not removed. Did you mean 'google-earth-stable:i386'?
[00:14] <dr_willis> On 64bit i had to use the fancyer name. ;P
[00:15] <dr_willis> moon`:  apt-get supports TAB completion also i belive. :) at least it does in some cases
[00:15] <dr_willis> $ sudo apt-get remove google-
[00:15] <dr_willis> then hit <TAB> google-chrome-stable  google-earth-stable   google-talkplugin
[00:16] <moon`> dr_willis: awesome, thank you
[00:18] <crichar32> hi guys i was wondering if anyone has installed 12.10 on a new mac mini? i am having an issue where the install goes through fine but when i reboot all i get is a gray folder with a question mark
[00:19] <troop> be honest, which is good and natural? http://s7.postimage.org/mor4s85rf/which.png
[00:20] <ad_da> hi, how can I see I my kernel support filesystem capabilities ?
[00:21] <dr_willis> ad_da:  used to be a /proc/fs/  or som,e other special file that showed them
[00:21] <Tex_Nick> ad_da : please elaborate
[00:24] <dr_willis> Hmm. used to be some system file that showed what filesystems were compiled into the kernel.. ages ago
[00:26] <dr_willis> the dir  /lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic/kernel/fs/  shows filesystem modules.
[00:26] <ad_da> dr_willis: um I don't see anything relevant :p
[00:26] <salih1453> http://dersaadetul-salih.blogspot.ru/
[00:26] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: I don't understand you
[00:26] <dr_willis> ad_da:  we have no idea what you are really talking about..
[00:27] <Jordan_U> salih1453: Please don't spam links to your blog on this channel.
[00:29] <knaught> i used a command some time ago and am trying to look it up. i tried arrow up but its been awhile and im sure its burried deepc is there a searchable file with command line history?
[00:30] <yeats> knaught: Ctrl-R searches, as does 'history', but the file is ~/.bash_history (which varies per virtual terminal)
[00:31] <Tex_Nick> ad_da : your question seemed to me to be a bit ambigous ... could you please expand it a bit :)
[00:32] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: maybe is the engilsh languaje sorry. I'm reading about filesystem capabilities. I just want to know if my filesystem support capabilities
[00:32] <knaught> yeats: awesome, thanks
[00:32] <yeats> ad_da: define "filesystem support capabilities"
[00:32] <haylo> does ubuntu have intel drivers for integrated graphics cards yet?
[00:33] <bekks> haylo: Yes.
[00:33] <haylo> this 60fps business is bogus   :P
[00:33] <Tex_Nick> ad_da ... this link will explain a bit about filesystems ... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/filesystems.5.html
[00:33] <haylo> haylo: like with jockey ?
[00:33] <haylo> what sort of frame rate can it pull? they didnt have it a year ago
[00:33] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: thank you so much :)
[00:33] <ad_da> I was reading this one http://linux.die.net/man/7/capabilities
[00:34] <haylo> bekks: *
[00:34] <haylo> bekks: so it is new?
[00:34] <Zeiva> haylo: What card do you have? What CPU or motherboard chipset?
[00:34] <bekks> haylo: You dont need > 24 FPS, since your eye cant resolve the difference on higher rates, biologically. :)
[00:34] <bekks> haylo: It is not new.
[00:34] <Zeiva> bekks: Not true
[00:34] <haylo> bekks: im a gamer, i can see like 10,000 fps
[00:34] <haylo> no kidding
[00:34] <haylo> everyone has is different
[00:34] <Tex_Nick> ad_da ... if that is not what you are after. please ask again :)
[00:34] <bekks> Yes, for sure. 1 Million dollar dude.
[00:35] <causative> is there a simple way to determine what keystrokes are being sent over VNC?
[00:35] <causative> Ctrl-x is not working (for emacs) and I'm trying to diagnose the problem
[00:35] <haylo> bekks: seriously. a violinist hears music much differently than a normal person. likewise a gamer can percieve subtle differences in performance
[00:35] <haylo> the fps is a reflection of the efficiency of the enitre computer
[00:36] <bekks> haylo: Even a gamer cant break the rules of biology and physics.
[00:36] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: I found what I was looking for. Thank you :)
[00:36] <haylo> bekks: you need to look at some computers running different frame rates
[00:36] <Zeiva> You dont need to be a gamer to see the differance between 24FPS and higher. Thats one of those old dumb myths thats been disproven for decades
[00:36] <Zeiva> The eye does not see in FPS, geez
[00:37] <Ben64> bekks: dude, you can definitely see over 24fps, I'd say at least 60fps and above might be indistinguishable
[00:37] <Tex_Nick> ad_da : you're welcome
[00:37] <bekks> Ben64: Then provide evidence on that please.
[00:37] <haylo> people dont see in fps's
[00:37] <Flynsarmy> When using mdadm to create a raid array you specify sda1, sdb1 etc. I have a machine with 24 drive bays and only a few drives plugged in. When I plug in more drives, won't sda, sdb etc change? Won't that mess with the array?
[00:37] <haylo> lulz bekks
[00:37] <Zeiva> Ben64: Even more, anyone could see the differance between a 60 and 120Hz monitor
[00:38] <Ben64> bekks: do any sort of research
[00:38] <dr_willis> time to refer to the wikipedia pages.. ;)  and get back OT.
[00:38] <Zeiva> A simple search of the web would prove it in a second
[00:38] <Zeiva> This explains it well: http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm
[00:39] <Zeiva> 24 frames is enough to make a movie appear smooth, but that does not mean we cant see MORE than that
[00:39] <Zeiva> I mean there is a reason why the new Hobbit movie is shot in 48 fps for example
[00:40] <bekks> Yes. Marketing. Earning money. Thats the reason, at first glance. ;) And now off from OT.
[00:40] <Ben64> Zeiva: a 24fps movie only looks smooth because the huge amount of motion blur going on
[00:40] <Zeiva> Ben64: Agreed
[00:40]  * dr_willis has blur even when sitting still..
[00:41] <Zeiva> Ben64: One of the common tricks in consol gaming this day compared to PC gaming is to apply tons of motion blur. Lets them keep the graphics detail higher than the old consol hardware can actually manage by hiding the frame drops in blur :)
[00:41] <causative> is there a simple program I can run that will report to me every keystroke sent to that program?
[00:41] <wikink> i have newly installed 12.10 in HP probook 4510s and my wireless is not shown in iwlist how  to fix
[00:41] <jrib> causative: xev
[00:42] <causative> ah great thanks!
[00:42] <excu> hi all
[00:43] <wikink> hi
[00:43] <linch> Hello~
[00:43] <linch> Hello!
[00:44] <knaught> yeats: ctrl w gets me a search bar but it wont find the text. j can see the text, like cd dir ls and so on
[00:44] <knaught> yeats: in nano
[00:46] <Zeiva> Now for a question of my own: I have a laptop with Xubuntu 12.10 ati HD3600 graphics with the open drivers which does not show any boot screen, its simply black until suddenly the desktop pop up. Is this intended or can I fix the bootscreen?
[00:47] <Muphrid> Zeiva: plymouth is broken in 12.10 for ati cards
[00:48] <Flynsarmy> are you able to create a raid array with mdadm by uuid rather than /dev/sdx?
[00:48] <Muphrid> i think rollbacking xorg is a solution
[00:48] <Zeiva> Muphrid: Ahhh! Thanks a bunch, saves me the trouble of trying to fix that. I guess it'll eventually get fixed, either in a patch or with the next major release
[00:48] <Zeiva> Muphrid: Its a small issue, just that it would be nice to have a bootscreen since the laptop will be used by a computer novice. Could be useful if they had an idication that stuff was actually loading
[00:49] <wikink> wireless prob in HP probook sometimes was not working properly in 12.04 but with 12.10 wireless is not shown in Network can any one help
[00:50] <dr_willis> I just remove pymouth as a solution to plymouth issues..
[00:50] <dr_willis> or use the failsafe text theme for pymounth
[00:51] <Muphrid> Zeiva: you can take a read at this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal.html
[00:53] <Muphrid> you dont need to isntall fglrx but an upgrade from that ppa would theoretically solve the plymouth corruption
[00:53] <Zeiva> Muphrid: I'd rather keep it stock and on the open source drivers to ensure it has a stable easy upgrade path. Messing with xorg and such seems like a recipie for disaster when the next major rev hits and the inteded owner clicks "yes please!" :)
[00:53] <OerHeks> be carefull with PPA's , it is not supported here.
[00:54] <Muphrid> as you wish
[00:54] <Zeiva> besides the most demanding thing they'll be doing is playing the card games and browsing the web. I doubt the real drivers would help much sadly
[00:59] <knaught> nm, i just grep it
[00:59] <knaught> thakks
[01:01] <xxiao> do I need do 'apt-get remove pkg1' before  I runn 'checkinstall"?
[01:03] <mana9000> what irc server is easy to setup
[01:04] <OerHeks> any irc server is easy to setup, but a secure irc server is hard to maintain.
[01:04] <mana9000> tobias_r33per: what irc server is easy to setup on lan
[01:05] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer
[01:05] <mana9000> OerHeks: Thanks, any particular you would suggest I want it for LAN in my college
[01:06] <OerHeks> mana9000, see that url, ircd-hybrid
[01:07] <mana9000> OerHeks: thanks
[01:07] <Hawkerz> OerHeks, that guide is massively outdated...
[01:07] <Hawkerz> it instructs the installation of epona for services
[01:08] <Hawkerz> epona has been rereleased as anope in like 2006...
[01:08] <OerHeks> Hawkerz, do you hava a better suggestion ?
[01:08] <Hawkerz> well don't give people bad advice in the first place, better to give none at all
[01:09] <Hawkerz> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/irc-server.html <- is the official ubuntu guide
[01:09] <Hawkerz> you should probably follow that if it's your first time
[01:10] <mana9000> Hawkerz: thanks
[01:11] <Hawkerz> i like unreal myself but that's just out of habit by now
[01:12] <mana9000> Hawkerz: can I you use one computer as server on LAN so that others can chat on that
[01:13] <Hawkerz> sure
[01:13] <ConGiun> help me guys :(
[01:14] <wavekidsjp> Can I use ubuntu as server instead of ubuntu ?
[01:14] <B1ue5ky> ConGiun, say man :D
[01:14] <B1ue5ky> wavekidsjp, yes
[01:14] <Hawkerz> you understood what he was asking?
[01:14] <ConGiun> i want karaoke
[01:14] <wavekidsjp> Thank you.
[01:14] <wavekidsjp> Karaoke ?
[01:14] <B1ue5ky> Hawkerz, no o_o
[01:15] <ConGiun> i installed paman
[01:15] <B1ue5ky> wavekidsjp, Ubuntu instead Ubuntu?
[01:15] <B1ue5ky> lol
[01:15] <ConGiun> after that type pacat -r --latency-msec=1 -d  alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo | pacat -p --latency-msec=1 -d  alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
[01:15] <dbrom> hello all
[01:15] <usr13> wavekidsjp: Yes
[01:15] <B1ue5ky> dbrom, hello
[01:15] <dbrom> I am the one with the monitor issue
[01:15] <wavekidsjp> Yes. I like Ubuntu rather than Server.
[01:16] <Hawkerz> ConGiun, that question is pretty specialized... I doubt anyone here knows your problem wit hthat specific piece of software
[01:16] <usr13> BluesKaj: I think he meant server instead of desktop.
[01:16] <B1ue5ky> wavekidsjp, Yes u can, any Linux can be a server
[01:16] <Hawkerz> as it is not a part of ubuntu...
[01:16] <Hawkerz> dbrom: i'm not sure if anyone is suppoed to know you cause of your monitor issue but you'll need to share more details
[01:16] <B1ue5ky> humm I see
[01:16] <dbrom> whats that Hawkerz
[01:16] <wavekidsjp> Thank. I will try.
[01:17] <Tex_Nick> dbrom : i remember your past posts, however things have changed since then ... you might need to start all over again ;)
[01:17] <ConGiun> I can not listen to music just to hear voice
[01:17] <ConGiun> =.=
[01:18] <dbrom> here is the issue I have a Nvidia 580 Ti which supports four monitors but when I have them hooked up only two work and the two are just clonning each other
[01:18] <Muphrid> dbrom: do they show up in system settings -> monitors?
[01:19] <dbrom> and when I try to Enable Xinerama it fails... the two show up only and only at 8 by 6
[01:19] <rodayo> I want to create a partition to install win 8 along side ubuntu. what kind of partition does it need to be, I know it has to be ntfs but are there any other special options that are required?
[01:20] <dbrom> rodayo: No that all you need
[01:20] <usr13> rodayo: Probably best to just leave as unpartitioned "free space"
[01:21] <dbrom> or use Virtual Box
[01:22] <rodayo> Cool, now there's probably something i need to do with grub to get that menu option on start up right?
[01:23] <dbrom> There should be but the thing is that Win8 will try to take over from Grub
[01:23] <dbrom> im just thinking its Windows so its going to want to take control
[01:25] <dbrom> I cannot save changes when I mode the setting went enabling Xinerama
[01:25] <jak2000> exist a way for uninstall all dependencies, this command: apt-cache rdepends mysql-client    generate the next output: http://pastebin.com/1Nt2kPuL
[01:25] <Tex_Nick> !uefi | rodayo
[01:26] <Tex_Nick> rodayo : just in case you're not familiar with the secure boot issue :)
[01:26] <rodayo> dbrom, yeah sounds like something windows would do =P
[01:27] <Eratosthenes> Hi
[01:27] <B1ue5ky> Eratosthenes, hi
[01:28] <dbrom> Anyone have any ideas about my monitor issue
[01:28] <Alex12> HI!
[01:28] <Alex12> i need help
[01:28] <B1ue5ky> me not =/
[01:28] <Tex_Nick> !ask | Alex12
[01:28] <Alex12> DE E17 i not see cyrillic in MENU!!!!!!!
[01:29] <jak2000> b1tgl0wany advice?
[01:29] <veryhappy> does anybody on here have any experiences with ubuntu 12.04 or later version of ubuntu WITH GPT partition table?
[01:30] <Alex12> Any help please?
[01:30] <Alex12> ubuntu-ops
[01:30] <Alex12> #ubuntu-ops
[01:30] <gvo> Alex12: did you forget the /join?
[01:30] <Tex_Nick> !patience | Alex12
[01:31] <Alex12> u can help?
[01:31] <gvo> alex12 I have no idea what you are asking.
[01:31] <Alex12> XD
[01:32] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 : please explain your question better ;)
[01:32] <Alex12> ok now i good translate it
[01:32] <gvo> I know nothing about cyrillic and DE E17 means nothing.
[01:32] <shaolin77> I think I have narrowed it down to a specific card for this old rig
[01:32] <duarteper> lol
[01:32] <Alex12> i enable russian language in MENU in E17
[01:32] <Alex12> but i not see it
[01:33] <dr_willis> I belive he means he can not get The E17 desktop enviroment to show Russian. :)
[01:33] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 : what language do prefer to speak ... there are other channels for other languages
[01:33] <Alex12> there is an empty strings
[01:33] <dr_willis> I would have to suggest the E17 forums and support pages Alex12 .
[01:33] <dr_willis> is E17 even in the repos?
[01:33] <Tex_Nick> !russian | Alex12
[01:33] <Alex12> all sleep!
[01:33] <Alex12> night
[01:33] <Alex12> 5:33
[01:34] <dr_willis> Guess it is. ;)
[01:34] <gvo> bye
[01:34] <Alex12> morning
[01:34] <Alex12> help please
[01:34] <shaolin77> Nvidia GT440 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express
[01:34] <Alex12> Problem with cyrillic in mean menu
[01:34] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 : not trying to point you away from this channel ... but maybe that will help
[01:34] <dbrom> Alex. If we can help we will ask the problem and do some searching
[01:34] <blami> Alex12: you'd better to ask E17 devs on their channel
[01:34] <dr_willis> Not a lot of Russian E17 users in here. ;)
[01:35] <xangua> Alex12: http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=support&l=en
[01:35] <wikink> howto activate my wireless in 12.10 its not coming up in Network Manager
[01:35] <dbrom> if it has nothing to do with the chennel then cant help
[01:35] <blami> Alex12: they spent ~10 years by putting it together
[01:35] <shaolin77> any of you familar with this card?
[01:35] <dr_willis> wikink:  the chipset may need some extra drivers.
[01:35] <blami> Alex12: they probably know
[01:35] <Alex12> lol
[01:35] <dr_willis> wikink:  looked under the software-sources/addational drivers  tab yet?
[01:36] <Alex12> How me have russian language in menu?
[01:36] <wikink> how can i go ahead
[01:36] <C0il> hi
[01:36] <Alex12> i want
[01:36] <dbrom> Alex12: What language did you sent the system up in
[01:36] <dr_willis> Alex12:  we dont have any magical answers.. no matter how many times you rephrase  the question.
[01:36] <Alex12> #e
[01:37] <dr_willis> wikink:  software-properties-gtk  -> addaditional drivers  tab. Might show it needs extra stuff
[01:37] <Alex12> Me russian
[01:37] <yalu> you Jane
[01:37] <dbrom> but the menus are in English
[01:37] <wikink> ok its not showing anything
[01:37] <dr_willis> Alex12:  yes.. You are a russian user, using E17 and cant get Cryllic Fonts working in the menus..... That may be worth checking out on the E17 forums.
[01:37] <dbrom> yalu... good come back
[01:38] <jak2000> dbrom any advice for me? :)
[01:38] <dr_willis> E17 - i find is the sort of thing i try out every so often.. then realize i hate it. ;)
[01:38] <Alex12> hmm i think then need fix xorg.conf?
[01:38] <dr_willis> Alex12:  i dont see how the xorg.conf figures into the problem.
[01:38] <Alex12> and write patches to
[01:39] <B1ue5ky> lol
[01:39] <My_Jone> How to use fnfxd，it cant save rightness,how can i do?
[01:40] <spacecase> I need to report a bug that affects more than one distro of Linux and more than one DE, how should I do that?
[01:40] <gvo> spacecase what is unique?
[01:40] <gvo> Or common to both problems?
[01:41] <dr_willis>  E17 is localized in 20 languages, including latin languages like English and French, cyrillic languages like Russian and Bulgarian and even Korean, Chinese, and Japanese. Note that you can change the language on the fly without restarting E or your X server.
[01:41] <dr_willis> looks like you need to find the settings in E. and if those fail, ask in the #E channel
[01:42] <dr_willis> spacecase:  each disrto normally keeps its own bug tracker ssytem.
[01:42] <spacecase> not sure, it happens in Ubuntu, fedora, and mint.  Gnome and KDE.  Kernel 3.5 and 3.6.
[01:42] <wikink> no luck its not showing any additional drivers requirement
[01:42] <gvo> spacecase what's the problem?
[01:42] <dr_willis> wikink:  whats the chipset of your wifi card? does ifconfig show it at all>
[01:42] <dbrom> dr_wills. I have the driver from the vid card that i need to run but when I do it tells me that im in xserver. how do i kill shutdown xserver
[01:42] <spacecase> I know of Ubuntu's bug tracker, but I feel like it will just get labeled upstream bug
[01:42] <Alex12> Help please?
[01:42] <dr_willis> dbrom:  what are you trying to install exactly?
[01:42] <dr_willis> Alex12: looks like you need to find the settings in E. and if those fail, ask in the #E channel
[01:43] <wikink> no wifi it says
[01:43] <dbrom> Nvidia-Linuz.run
[01:43] <dr_willis> !wireless  Id start here | wikink
[01:43] <wikink> its a HP probook 4510s
[01:43] <jak2000> exist a way for uninstall all dependencies, this command: apt-cache rdepends mysql-client    generate the next output: http://pastebin.com/1Nt2kPuL
[01:43] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 ... see if this helps ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcVeJWwqh7U
[01:43] <dr_willis> dbrom:  why are you not using the drivers in the default repos?
[01:43] <spacecase> on my hardware (macbook pro 8,2 and macbook pro 2,1) the battery meter will randomly drop to a low, inaccurate charge.  upower reports incorrect as well, acpitool reports accurate
[01:43] <dr_willis> !wireless
[01:43] <dbrom> i have they arnt working
[01:43] <jrib> jak2000: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:44] <dr_willis> dbrom:  its very likely the .run drivers will not work either.
[01:44] <spacecase> I've seen bug reports of the issue that happens on non-mac hardware
[01:44] <dr_willis> dbrom:  whats  your exact video chipset?
[01:44] <Flynsarmy> how can i get my devices mounting under a persistant name? currently when i plug drives in they pick /dev/sd? based on the order they're plugged in
[01:44] <Alex12> i think i need write patchs in conf or install microsoft fonts
[01:44] <Alex12> yes?
[01:44] <Flynsarmy> i think i'm supposed to use udev rules but couldn't find a useful tutorial. only a hugeass manual
[01:44] <dbrom> how would I find this
[01:44] <jrib> Flynsarmy: those aren't mount points.  If you give your partitions labels, they will mount under /media/LABEL though
[01:44] <jak2000> jrib uninstall percona and mariadb
[01:44] <gvo> spacecase: I'd file a bug with the kernel folks and they will probably give you info on the correct place, if that's not it.
[01:44] <jak2000> how to?
[01:45] <jrib> jak2000: how did you install them?
[01:45] <dr_willis> Flynsarmy:   you can mount on the same MOUNTPOINT reguardless of the Device /dev/DEVICE.
[01:45] <spacecase> thaks gvo
[01:45] <jrib> !label | Flynsarmy
[01:45] <dr_willis> Flynsarmy:  if the filesystem has a proper label. it should mount to /media/labelname
[01:45] <Flynsarmy> jrib: dr_willis: i'm trying to keep them on the same /dev because i'm trying to set up raid5
[01:45] <dr_willis> external USB's in Raid? Thats... scary
[01:45] <jak2000> i am on a server with products installed.... need remove the pboth products,
[01:45] <jrib> !raid | Flynsarmy
[01:45] <jak2000> not know how was installed...
[01:45] <dbrom> double that dr_wills
[01:46] <Flynsarmy> dr_willis: nah i have 24 drive bays. when i plug drives in it changes the /dev of all the ones after it which i would assume would break the array if the array needs a specific /dev/sd?
[01:46] <dr_willis> dbrom:  lspci and see what your video card is.
[01:46] <jrib> Flynsarmy: people don't really on consistent /dev/sd* naming.  Instead people use UUID.  How that relates to raid, well see ubottu I suppose
[01:46] <B1ue5ky> =]
[01:46] <jrib> s/really/rely
[01:46] <dr_willis> I dont even touch raid. ;) to many hassles
[01:46] <jrib> !who | jak2000
[01:46] <dbrom> only having one monitor is bloody pissing me off
[01:47] <jrib> jak2000: were they installed through APT?
[01:47] <dr_willis> dbrom:  you can stop the X server with 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[01:47] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ya i was asking earlier today on how to specify uuid instead of /dev with mdadm and got no responses. i dont know if that's a good idea anyway bceause a replacement drive would have a diff uuid?
[01:47] <jak2000> jrib yes with apt i think
[01:47] <dr_willis> dbrom:  last i looked I Thiought there were experimental/post release nvidia drivers in the repos that were the same as the latest on nvidias site
[01:47] <wikink> only ethernet Marvell is shown with lspci
[01:47] <spacecase> gvo, what should I file that under, ACPI or power management?
[01:47] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I'm not familiar with raid, but the docs ubottu gave you should clarify.  Have you checked?
[01:48] <dr_willis> wikink:  this is a internal? or external wifi card?
[01:48] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ive been trying to read docs all morning but there's so much there
[01:48] <jrib> !apt | jak2000
[01:48] <gvo> spacecase: Either, they will move it if it's not appropriate.
[01:48] <wikink> its built-in card
[01:48] <jrib> jak2000: then use "apt-get remove" to remove them
[01:48] <chaotixx> hey
[01:48] <dr_willis> wikink:  does lspci show it at all?
[01:48] <dbrom> im trying the 310.19 off the site and the latest on the additional drivers link
[01:48] <wikink> no
[01:49] <dr_willis> wikink:  could be its so new its totally unsupported. or the switch is OFF ;) if its in a laptop
[01:49] <jak2000> jrib yes i used before apt-get, with this command: apt-cache rdepends mysql-client    know wich packaged need to be removed right?   (the list is large large) not exist a way more direct?
[01:49] <bradlee> h
[01:49] <chaotixx> when making a persistant live usb using usb startup disk creator in ubuntu, is there any reason why i would not want to slide the bar to the maximum amount stored in reserve extra space?
[01:50] <gvo> wikink: dr_willis  if lspci doesn't find it, willl linux be able to do anything with it?
[01:50] <jrib> jak2000: you said you wanted to remove percona and mariadb, so why not remove those?
[01:50] <dr_willis> chaotixx:  if you want some space on the usb for using on a windows box.
[01:50] <dbrom> here is the info
[01:50] <dr_willis> gvo:  i dont see how it could.. ;)
[01:50] <dbrom> 2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 580] (rev a1)
[01:50] <dbrom> 02:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[01:50] <dbrom> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)
[01:50] <dbrom> 04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
[01:50] <FloodBot1> dbrom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <jrib> Flynsarmy: you're using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto?
[01:50] <Alex12> bb than :(
[01:50] <wikink> the rfkill list all says hp-wifi Wireless LAN Soft blocked : no       Hard blocked: no
[01:50] <gvo> dr_willis: Agreed
[01:50] <dr_willis> dbrom:  looks like you have 2 video cards. a 580 and a 560 ti
[01:51] <chaotixx> dr_willis: the reserved space will be the size of my filesystem right?
[01:51] <dbrom> yes
[01:51] <chaotixx> on the live usb
[01:51] <dr_willis> chaotixx:  yes the space the user can use,
[01:51] <Flynsarmy> jrib: reading through that page atm. i have a fakeraid card but want to go with softwareraid instead bceause if the card dies i'm SOL
[01:51] <chaotixx> ok
[01:51] <chaotixx> thanbkjs
[01:51] <chaotixx> thanks as usual, doc
[01:52] <chaotixx> we ought to get one of those feedback pages like the\y have for the fedora channel
[01:52] <jrib> Flynsarmy: ok.
[01:52] <jak2000> jrib yes i want remove percona and mariadb (the depndencies if you see, in a 90% are of percona and or mariadb) .... :(
[01:52] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID is more appropriate then
[01:52] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : i missed your PM earlier, sorry ... have posted to the PM
[01:52] <jrib> jak2000: so start by removing mariadb and percona packages.  Have you done that?
[01:52] <Sensei_Jer> Hello I have a question about one software - bibletime
[01:53] <jak2000> jrib yes i start but the list is large, not exist other way more direct?
[01:53] <Sensei_Jer> the question is - will USA persecute if I download from the bookshelf manager
[01:53] <jrib> jak2000: it's two packages.  Not sure what you mean.
[01:53] <Flynsarmy> jrib: these seem to assume you aren't plugging/unplugging disks though so they can safely use given /dev/sd? paths which I can't do
[01:53] <Sensei_Jer> I got the warning saying dont risk detection so don't use remote sources
[01:54] <wikink> dr_willis: it was woking previously with 12.04 but now in 12.10 i could not see the wireless at all, shall i pastebin the lspci
[01:54] <dr_willis> wikink:  good idea. but i really dont know much about wureless truble shooting. If it worked in 12.04  did you UPGRADE to 12.10? or is this a clean install.
[01:55] <gvo> Sensei_Jer: I'm not any authority but the US probably doesn't really card.
[01:55] <gvo> care.
[01:55] <dr_willis> Sensei_Jer:  i belive no one in here has a clue what you are going on about.
[01:55] <Sensei_Jer> yeah I thought as well gvo
[01:55] <Sensei_Jer> it's nothing major really
[01:55] <gvo> The US isn't in the business of worrying about individuals.
[01:55] <wikink> actually with a DVD live also wireless didnot work and i have done clean install and trying to fix it
[01:56] <dr_willis> wikink:  could be a bug with the newer kernel and that specific card or driver..  Ive also had cards iver had to go to windows.. turn ON and leave them on. for them to work in linux.
[01:57] <gvo> Sensei_Jer: If it's a classified government project, look out.  Otherwise, ho hum.
[01:57] <wikink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474557/
[01:57] <OerHeks> Sensei_Jer, there is a PPA for bibletime/sword > https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ppa
[01:57] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I don't know enough to advise you.  But feel free to repeat the question here. There's usually someone around with some raid experience.  You might also try #ubuntu-server if no one is around here at the moment
[01:57] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ok, thanks
[01:57] <Sensei_Jer> tyvm OerHeks and others
[01:58] <dbrom> dr_wills: so is there something i can do
[01:58] <wikink> the wifi hardware switch is showing up On and Off properly but nothing is happening
[01:58] <dr_willis> dbrom:  askubuntu.com has numerous posts on  quad monitor setups with nvidia systems..   Not sure which ones apply to your system. It could be the fact yu have 2 differnt cards  are goofing things up
[01:58] <wikink> i have also pasted the lspci in the above link
[01:59] <dbrom> dr_wills: ill try it with one card...
[02:01] <gvo> wikink: the  88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller  is a hardwired controller, right?
[02:02] <wikink> yes
[02:02] <gvo> wikink: For some reason the system doesnt' even know there is another network controller.
[02:04] <wikink> its showing only wired network is shown and wireless network connect is not coming up
[02:05] <gvo> wikink is it a USB device?
[02:05] <wikink> do i need to manually the kernel module?
[02:05] <wikink> no its built in mini pci
[02:06] <gvo> And this works in WInders?
[02:06] <wikink> many Hp probook users facing the same prob but no proper guide
[02:06] <wikink> with wireless
[02:06] <jrib> Flynsarmy: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org seems like a nice source of info as well
[02:06] <gvo> Just for completness try lsusb
[02:10] <jimmy> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow  changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[02:12] <JAIME> i have just installed mint 14 kde, but i cant get wireless card installed
[02:12] <jak2000> jrib: percona was installed: http://www.percona.com/doc/percona-server/5.5/installation/apt_repo.html   how to uninstall? apt-get remove percona-server-5.5      ?
[02:12] <JAIME> how do i check what card it is and compatibility
[02:12] <bazhang> JAIME, get mint support then
[02:12] <gvo> JAIME: lspci | grep net
[02:12] <jrib> jak2000: yes, if that's the package you want to remove
[02:12] <bazhang> !mintsupport | JAIME
[02:13] <WeThePeople> how would i copy my ubuntu with all my apt on here and have some one else be able to use it?
[02:13] <WeThePeople> apts*
[02:13] <WeThePeople> apps*
[02:13] <bazhang> WeThePeople, aptoncd
[02:13] <bazhang> !aptoncd | WeThePeople
[02:14] <WeThePeople> ok thankyou
[02:14] <jak2000> mmm not remove
[02:14] <jak2000> continue dependencies here
[02:14] <wikink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474587/   the  wireless not working
[02:15] <jrib> jak2000: you have to be more specific.
[02:15] <jak2000> jrib the percona files continue in the system :(
[02:15] <jak2000> jrib i want remove all percona files and systems :)
[02:15] <WeThePeople> bazhang, what about being able to keep the customizations as well?
[02:16] <bazhang> WeThePeople, sounds like you want a clone
[02:16] <WeThePeople> yes
[02:16] <WeThePeople> maybe not
[02:16] <WeThePeople> lol
[02:17] <jrib> jak2000: you can find what package is responsible for a file with "dpkg -S /path/to/file".  Then you should use "apt-get purge PACKAGE" (not apt-get remove)
[02:17] <jak2000> ok
[02:19] <cab> Anyone here using pidgin with plugins?
[02:19] <shaolin77> OK people I need a collective thought to be processed.  Who is good with Hardware/upgrades?
[02:20] <jimmy> clear
[02:20] <jimmy> lol, whoops
[02:21] <bazhang> shaolin77, the people in ##hardware
[02:22] <bazhang> cab, whats the actual question
[02:22] <Muphrid> i use pidgin but not many plugins
[02:22] <gvo> I used to raise pigeons.
[02:22] <bazhang> cab, you might also be interested to know of the channel #pidgin
[02:22] <cab> no it's ok just manage to make it work
[02:23] <shaolin77> thanks bazhang I will try that
[02:23] <wikink> how to check my wifi chipset; its not shown in lspci
[02:23] <cab> any lighter irc client than pidgin? (that's just the one by default one my system)
[02:23] <wikink> lsusb also no luck
[02:24] <Hawkerz> cab: lighter?
[02:24] <cab> but my seems intensive
[02:24] <Hawkerz> i use xchat, and have done for years
[02:24] <Hawkerz> if you can manage command line irc, irssi is the way to go
[02:25] <cab> I'm just using LXterminal (lubuntu)
[02:25] <cab> not sure it integrates with
[02:25] <gvo> wikink: take a very close look at your bios and see if there are any settings for the wireless card there, to enable/disable it.
[02:26] <usr13> cab: irssi
[02:26] <scottj> my laptop keyboard stops responding periodically until reboot, external keyboards keep working, I don't see anything in syslog or Xorg log, any ideas?
[02:26] <cab> ok
[02:26] <usr13> scottj: hardware issue
[02:26] <scottj> doesn't do it under windows, I don't think it's hardware
[02:26] <gvo> wikink: If lspci can't see it, Linux will not be able to use it so something is preventing it's being seen by linux.  That implies either a hardware switch or bios.
[02:27] <wikink> my wireless hardware switch is active and bios also active,
[02:27] <cab>  Hawkerz: ok will try irrsi and xhat else
[02:27] <Hawkerz> how many irc clients do you need?
[02:27] <Hawkerz> nothing is lighter than irssi
[02:27] <cab> 1 lol
[02:27] <wikink> when i try On and Off, the blue led is responding too
[02:27] <gvo> wikink: Then you probably can't use it with whatever version of Linux you are trying to use.  Try a different distro.
[02:27] <cab> and one big requirement is to hide out/in messages
[02:27] <cab> that pollutes
[02:28] <usr13> cab: http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[02:28] <cab> it's working on pidgin right now
[02:28] <Hawkerz> i dont know what 'hide out in messages' means
[02:28] <wikink> its Ubuntu 12.10 and it was working in 12.04
[02:28] <dbrom> dr_wills: what was that site you said there were posts about my issue
[02:28] <cab> join/parts
[02:28] <cab> messafes
[02:29] <Hawkerz> cab: so you want a command line irc client right?
[02:29] <cab> yep  if works with the raw LXTerminal
[02:29] <Hawkerz> if that is what you are asking for, use irssi with screen/tmux
[02:29] <Hawkerz> that is, screen or tmux
[02:29] <gvo> wikink: then boot 12.04 and make sure it's still working.  Run lspci and find out wall you can about the card and search the web for info.
[02:29] <Hawkerz> it does everything you are asking
[02:29] <bazhang> cab most IRC clients can do that without issue
[02:29] <gvo> find out all
[02:30] <cab> ok
[02:30] <Hawkerz> there are some nice plugins to make it look pretty too
[02:30] <Zaibach333> I'm running into issues installing my amd graphics driver, my laptop is stuck in terminal.  I've been at it all day and can't seem to get it right...
[02:30] <Hawkerz> i've had a lot of fun with irssi in the past
[02:30] <Malsasa> Hello, can somebody give me replacement for Netbeans? I want one that can make GUI easily. I think it is heavy on my system.
[02:31] <diverdude> i am trying to do: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse but then I get an error saying:    Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:31] <diverdude> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:31] <diverdude> is only available from another source
[02:31] <diverdude> E: Package 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse' has no installation candidate      How can i fix this?   My /etc/apt/sources.list looks like this:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474608/
[02:31] <Hawkerz> for java? eclipse
[02:31] <usr13> Zaibach333: lspci | pastebinit #Send resulting URL, we will see what hardware you have.
[02:31] <bazhang> diverdude, use tab complete for that package
[02:31] <usr13> Zaibach333: What hardware driver did you install?
[02:32] <Zaibach333> usr13, I installed amd catalyst 12.10 proprietary linux x86 display driver from their website
[02:32] <gvo> Malsasa: All IDEs have a pretty steep learning curve.  Meaning, easily isn't.
[02:32] <cab__> hello from irssi
[02:33] <cab> ok working
[02:33] <Malsasa> gvo: hmmm... so there is no one? Thank you...
[02:33] <usr13> Zaibach333: What does lspci say about your video card?
[02:33] <diverdude> bazhang,  you mean: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[02:33] <cab__> just waiting for a join/part message to see if they show up on irssi
[02:34] <bazhang> diverdude, why not just install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:34] <gvo> Malsasa there are others, but none are "easy".. What do you know?  What IDEs are you familiar with?
[02:34] <usr13> Zaibach333: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[02:34] <Malsasa> gvo: thank you, I am familiar with Netbeans only. Visual Basic-like.
[02:34] <Zaibach333> usr13, there's a big list, alot to type. I'm using lubuntu 12.10 on the laptop
[02:35] <usr13> Zaibach333: lspci | pastebinit #Send resulting URL, we will see what hardware you have.
[02:35] <BlueNeXuS> `ello all
[02:35] <CoreyBR> hello!
[02:35] <CoreyBR> :D
[02:36] <gvo> Malsasa: Eclipse is another popular one.  Since you know Netbeans, you understand there is a learning curve.  Right?
[02:36] <BlueNeXuS> Anyone here using ,or  tired cylon/ceylon version of Ubuntu?
[02:36] <Malsasa> gvo: no, what is learning curve?
[02:37] <gi6son> hello. I got the 12.10 live iso, burned, installed to a usb, rebooted, login screen asked for a password. never asked to submit such so no clue.
[02:37] <Zaibach333> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474614/
[02:37] <CoreyBR> what is the channel for chitchat about ubuntu and stuff?
[02:37] <dbrom> anyone using more then two monitors on kubuntu
[02:38] <gvo> Malsasa: Learning curve means you have to use it for a while before it becomes easy.  It's the opposite of intuitive.  I'm sure when you first used netbeans it was difficult so understand.
[02:38] <bazhang> CoreyBR, #ubuntu-discuss  /  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <eang> gi6son: did  you tried using a blank pswd?
[02:38] <usr13> z
[02:38] <gvo> Malsasa: so==to
[02:38] <Muphrid> Malsasa: have you tried Geany?
[02:38] <usr13> Zaibach333: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[02:38] <cab__> Hm just scrolled all
[02:38] <BlueNeXuS> i really like the cylon variant of ubuntu,, but i get tired of the fire sparks and flames every time i click a menu
[02:38] <BlueNeXuS> the rest of the gui special effects is nice
[02:39] <gvo> Muphrid: I think he's only done netbeans
[02:39] <Malsasa> gvo: Yes, yes, you are right. Oooh, so intuitive is opposite from learning curve?
[02:39] <cab__> Hm just scrolled all http://www.irssi.org/documentation/settings and can't find any setting to hide join/part messages
[02:39] <Malsasa> Muphrid: yes, i have. Geany is great.
[02:39] <bazhang> !quietirssi | cab__
[02:39] <gvo> Malsasa: Yes.
[02:39] <wikink> how do i connect from irssi  it says Not connected to server
[02:39] <Malsasa> Muphrid: but geany doesn't have GUI builder. CMIIW.
[02:39] <Zaibach333> usr13, k
[02:39] <diverdude> bazhang, thx
[02:39] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, what is cylon version of ubuntu
[02:39] <Muphrid> Mm ok
[02:40] <Malsasa> gvo: thank you. You kindly answer newbie like me....
[02:40] <Muphrid> GUI builders are heavy on resources, eclipse is the only other i know of
[02:40] <cab__> hide_server_tags = OFF  ??
[02:40] <bazhang> cab__: To ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi:  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[02:40] <cab__> ubottu: ok
[02:40] <gvo> Malsasa: Good luck.  Why do you want to leave netbeans if you know it?
[02:41] <usr13> Zaibach333: Just use the OS driver.
[02:41] <BlueNeXuS> it's basically ubuntu.. but with a very luxurious gui.  and full access to the ubuntu app-store type interface, auto updates,, a few extra nicknacks
[02:41] <Flynsarmy> how do you close the 'watch' command? just ctrl+c or is there a proper way?
[02:41] <usr13> wikink: /server irc.freenode.net  #or server of your choosing.
[02:41] <cab__> bazhang: and to define it as default, at startup?
[02:41] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, link please
[02:41] <Malsasa> gvo: thanks, but I will not leave Netbeans. I just wanna searching for new IDE. Maybe my friends need it. And for me, Netbeans is so heavy.
[02:41] <usr13> Zaibach333: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne522
[02:42] <bazhang> cab__, set it and forget it, should stick
[02:42] <Malsasa> gvo: I found IntelliJ IDEA open sorce version. It is very great. But I just try it a while. Now it saved on my disk ;)
[02:42] <gvo> Malsasa: Eclipse is heavy too.  It is the nature of the beast.
[02:42] <BlueNeXuS> just a sec, I'll get that for yah bazhang
[02:42] <BlueNeXuS> you may want to youtube it too
[02:42] <cab> fine
[02:43] <Malsasa> gvo: :) yes, I have Eclipse too in this machine. But Eclipse is heavy too.
[02:43] <gvo> Malsasa: Yes
[02:43] <gvo> Malsasa: with power comes complexity.
[02:44] <BlueNeXuS> ceylonlinux.com   though when you install it , it spells it cylon instead on the installation screeen
[02:44] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, yeah, thats not supported here. use alis to find their support channel
[02:44] <Malsasa> gvo: I agree.
[02:44] <bazhang> !alis | BlueNeXuS
[02:44] <Zaibach333> usr13, I just got some humble bundle and was looking to see how they run on ubuntu... is my card not capable of getting an updated driver on 12.10?
[02:45] <MyCah> Hello -- I've tried to run a couple of games and am getting this error X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation). My googling only brought up solutions to people programming in opengl... Any ideas?
[02:45] <Malsasa> gvo: do you have tips for reducing heaviness from Netbeans?
[02:45] <BlueNeXuS> actually wasnt asking for any help.. I just asked if anyone here has tried it
[02:45] <BlueNeXuS> its a variant of ubuntu , so i figured someone had tried it here
[02:45] <usr13> Zaibach333: I dono, see jockey-gtk
[02:45] <nazeer> hi
[02:46] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, great question for the offtopic channel
[02:46] <BlueNeXuS> but thanks all the same baz
[02:46] <gvo> Malsasa: No, I'm just a casual user, not a power user.
[02:46] <Malsasa> gvo: same with me... :)
[02:46] <Muphrid> Malsasa: you could install it with --no-install-recommends, it installs less software than a full install but not sure if it makes it less heavy on other resources
[02:47] <Zaibach333> usr13, k, thanks
[02:47] <pippobibo2> !addon
[02:47] <Malsasa> Muphrid: oooh, thank you.
[02:49] <ferret_guy> is there an application that allows a server with more than one LAN interface to act as a "router" with DHCP passthrough
[02:49] <Ben64> it'd be easier to get a router
[02:51] <ferret_guy> i know but i have several LAN cards laying around and wanted to try it
[02:53] <zully> ferret_guy: it can be done
[02:53] <enriq> hi. How do I install a 12.04 to a new partition, from my running 10.04? I'd like dual boot. (of course upgrade does not work)
[02:53] <ferret_guy> how would i go about it?
[02:54] <zully> ferret_guy: ip masquerading
[02:55] <dbrom> hello all I have a monitor issue: Nvidia 580 Ti not displaying two monitors and cloning on the other two...
[02:55] <zully> ferret_guy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[02:55] <ferret_guy> Thanks zully!
[02:57] <dbrom> I can see all four down by the Activity manager tho
[02:58] <Pei_> Hello, i'm going to try and install ubuntu for the first time, although I am a seasoned slackware and archlinux user
[02:59] <Pei_> it's just that, the install for archlinux is a joke
[03:00] <bazhang> Pei_, using the live cd? the minimal installer (for Ubuntu)?
[03:01] <Pei_> no downloading uhm ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:01] <bazhang> that'd be the live cd
[03:02] <Pei_> i have two exact same laptops, one is windows 7, the other one i am making a linux desktop
[03:02] <enriq> btw can I mount the 12.04 live cd iso from ubuntu 10.04 and install 12.04 to another partition?
[03:04] <dr_willis> enriq:  that may take some doing to install from within 10.04
[03:04] <dr_willis> enriq:  you could set up grub2 to boot the ISO file.
[03:05] <enriq> dr_willis, a grub2 entry in the menu that boots the iso? sounds good
[03:06] <dr_willis> enriq:  i dont recall if 10.04 used grub2 or not. ;)
[03:06] <dr_willis> enriq:  i used to keep a /boot/ partion of about 3gb in size. to keep a few ISO files on. and had grub2 set to boot them. a Ubuntu Desktop for reinstgalling, a gparted, and a few other rescue type isos ;)
[03:07] <enriq> dr_willis, good idea, I have a separate /boot ... 10.04 apparently has grub1
[03:08] <dr_willis> that sort of shoots that idea in the foot. ;) unless you got a Flash drive.. but then you could just put 12.10 on the flash and boot that..
[03:09] <enriq> dr_willis, grub2 is on the repos apparently but not installed... should I...
[03:10] <cab>  irssi is not enabling to scroll >> http://i.imgur.com/wbbfa.png
[03:10] <cab> up/down
[03:11] <CoreyBR> can anyone help with and wifi card issue?
[03:12] <bazhang> what chipset CoreyBR
[03:13] <CoreyBR> bazhang, 01:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[03:13] <bazhang> !atheros
[03:13] <jimmy> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow   changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[03:13] <bazhang> CoreyBR, please see above
[03:14] <CoreyBR> bazhang, thanks i'll take a look.
[03:14] <cordyceps> How do I tell avconv to rip from my cd?
[03:15] <cab> page up/down works but sucks to not do it by scrolling
[03:15] <iKernel> Hi guys, having trouble transferring files from my computer to my phone using bluetooth, Xubuntu 12.10 x86_64. Seems to pair with the phone succesfully, however the pass key I see on my phone is different from what comes up in the wizard. When I try to send files to the phone, it connects, then gets stuck on 0.00 B/s/s then says Error occurred while sending file (filename). When trying to browse files on the device, it immediately throws t
[03:15] <iKernel> he error "Failed to open "obex://[0C:C6:6A:95:5A:31]/". Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)." I've not tried doing this on Windows, and I don't have a USB cable, even if I did the usb ports in this laptop are broken.
[03:15] <OerHeks> cab i don't use irssi, but if i remember right, simply hit escape, then p to go up or n to go down
[03:16] <CoreyBR> bazhang, the help have the solution for the ubuntu v10 i'm using 12.10
[03:16] <CoreyBR> does it work?
[03:17] <cordyceps> How do I rip a CD using avconv?
[03:17] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/avconv.1.html  cordyceps
[03:18] <bazhang> cordyceps, scroll down to see the example and change to suit your needs
[03:18] <cab>  OerHeks: page up/down works.. but I'd prefer a vertical bar
[03:18] <bazhang> cab, then try a different IRC client?
[03:18] <blerp> hey all, I'm having trouble, I've got a cifs share on a windows server with 111 folders in it and when I mount it in ubuntu it only shows alphabetical listings up to 84, and that's it.. is there something I can do to fix this?
[03:21] <zully> blerp: in nautilus or cl?
[03:22] <blerp> cl
[03:22] <diablo69> Hola
[03:22] <zully> whats ur output from mount?
[03:23] <diablo69> Hello
[03:23] <d4rkh4nd> anyone here know how to use kdialog --slider ?
[03:24] <kylescottmcgill> Anyone know of a Good GTK2 chooser
[03:24] <kylescottmcgill> ?
[03:24] <hangdeadman> How do I remove getdeb repositories from ubuntu 12.04? I have been getting error messages when I update for almost a month now
[03:25] <hangdeadman> I can't find them in synaptic...
[03:25] <diablo69> Someone who speaks Spanish?
[03:26] <OerHeks> !es | diablo69
[03:26] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, open softwarecentre and edit softwaresources
[03:27] <diablo69> ah thanks for the help
[03:29] <diablo69> gladiatus someone plays?
[03:29] <kevinlu310> Battery info of my laptop seems wrong on 12.04 lts. How can I fix it?
[03:30] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: thanks!!! any idea what may be causing nautilus to crash when opening my music folder?
[03:30] <cordyceps> bazhang: Can't seem to find it. The cd is on /dev/sr0, but I can't seem to tell avconv.
[03:30] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, can't say why, try this and see the errors: open terminal and type nautilus
[03:31] <diablo69> Anyone know how to install pes?
[03:31] <jason2007> anyone know what happened to playdeb?
[03:32] <OerHeks> jason2007, playdeb servers are down for some weeks now
[03:32] <diablo69> Thank you much help che, are selfish
[03:33] <jason2007> DerHeks, do you know when they will be back up?
[03:33] <dr_willis> never knew how many people used them. :)
[03:33] <dr_willis> diablo69:  we pointed you to an ES channel
[03:33] <dr_willis> !info pes
[03:33] <dr_willis> No idea what 'pes' is
[03:34] <OerHeks> jason2007, i have no info about that, rumors say they are working on crashed servers
[03:35] <diablo69> The PES is a football game
[03:35] <cordyceps> When using avconv to convert rip cd what do I call /dev/sr0? Since it is not mounted.
[03:35] <dr_willis> cordyceps:  you dont mount audio cds
[03:35] <dr_willis> why dont you use some nice front end to rip your audio cds ?
[03:36] <cordyceps> yes, you're right. How do I tell avconv that?
[03:36] <dr_willis> ive never used avconv to rip audio cds. so no idea. Id have to google for example ussage of it.
[03:36] <cordyceps> like a challenge
[03:37] <OerHeks> diablo69, if pes is Pro Evolution Soccer, check the wine database
[03:37] <OerHeks> !wine
[03:38] <dr_willis> Not much of a challange if we tell you then. ;)
[03:39] <diablo69> Thanks OerHkes, never before saw such Chat or whatever.
[03:40] <NabberS> hmm....
[03:41] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: I got the error, it says to ask system administrator to enable user sharing, I'd share it but can't remember how to use pastebin from the terminal...
[03:41] <dr_willis> hangdeadman:  the pastebinit command.
[03:41] <OerHeks> !pastebinit
[03:41] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: share the error message I mean.
[03:41] <NabberS> anyone know what is gpg key ubuntu 12.04 works good
[03:42] <dr_willis> NabberS:  you may want to rephrase that and give a bit more details.
[03:43] <diablo69> No ja idem spať, uvidím kamarátov, ale nehovorí. Len hovoriť o víne a ďalšie
[03:43] <diablo69> Well I go to sleep, I'll see friends, but not speak. Just talk about wine and other
[03:44] <enriq> can I unmount my /boot partition?
[03:45] <veryhappy> hi guys, sorry i was already asking one time before but my connection crashed, i'm sorry.
[03:45] <veryhappy> someone here with experience in installing ubuntu on gpt?
[03:46] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/w9zxFEjD
[03:46] <enriq> when I resize and move a partition with gparted, the contents are copied?
[03:47] <sidney_> backup
[03:47] <dr_willis> enriq:  it should keep data intact yes.. but MAKE bACKUPS
[03:47] <Ben64> enriq: should be, but you should backup
[03:47] <enriq> it's just the /boot partition :)
[03:47] <dr_willis> Power failure during resize = Bad.
[03:47] <enriq> ok ok I make a copy
[03:51] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, seems like a known bug, the bugreport contains the solution too > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-share/+bug/995406 >> sudo usermod -a -G sambashare <your username>
[03:52] <enriq> long live gparted
[03:53] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: I'm still getting the same error message
[03:53] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, did you restart samba after that ? sudo service smbd restart
[03:55] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: I get <smbd: unrecognized service>
[03:55] <enriq> if I have a dual boot ubuntu 10 and ubuntu 12 can they share /boot ?
[03:56] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, strange, did you have samba installed .. if not, i wonder why you get that error message.
[03:57] <hangdeadman>  OerHeks: I don't remember ever installing samba..
[03:57] <veryhappy> enriq: that should be quite possible, just make sure that you have enough space.
[03:57] <enriq> ok veryhappy thx
[04:01] <cub> hey
[04:01] <macs> can anyone suggest a site to get info about setting up a home nfs server???
[04:01] <cub> ever since i installed kde , the login screen always starts up with a kde login instead of the original gnome one
[04:01] <cub> is there any EASY way to change this?
[04:01] <dr_willis> cub:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:01] <dr_willis> about as EASY as it gets
[04:02] <cub> what does kdm mean
[04:02] <cub> nvm i got it
[04:02] <chaospsychex> are there certain integrated intel video chipsets that require proprietary drivers/firmware ?
[04:02] <cjae> why is everything mupen64plus so badly broken
[04:03] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: some intel and amd chips i guess
[04:03] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: but that's just a guess
[04:03] <cjae> the percise ppa dont work
[04:03] <cjae> the program barely runs
[04:03] <chaospsychex> my chipset can output hd resolutions but for some reason xrandr is showing only 1024x780 as the highest ?
[04:03] <hangdeadman> Can anyone help me figure out why nautilus crashes when trying to open my music folder in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:03] <Ben64> dr_willis: wouldn't that just keep the kde one?
[04:04] <dr_willis> Ben64: no,,, it Asks what one to use
[04:04] <chaospsychex> when 1280x1024 should be the highest as that is what the monitor supprots
[04:04] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, did you add any PPA like gnome3 ?
[04:04] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: did you install proprietary drivers already? there should be an option within gnome settings
[04:05] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: called "additional drivers"
[04:05] <kelvinella> hi anyone had successfully install itune 10 on playonlinux?
[04:05] <Ben64> hangdeadman: you may have a strange file in there, could you pastebin the output of "ls -la <path to music folder>"
[04:05] <chaospsychex> veryhappy, i'm on the internet via a 3g cell phone. for some reason ubuntu wants to send/receive alot of data in the background. annoying....
[04:06] <chaospsychex> when i open software center, it tells me it's 'waiting for jockey gtk to finish' or something like that
[04:06] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: hold on
[04:06] <Ben64> chaospsychex: you shouldn't need additional drivers for intel
[04:07] <chaospsychex> Ben64, xrandr isn't showing the supported modes of the video chipset nor is it showing the modes the monitor supports
[04:08] <chaospsychex> Ben64, 12.04 btw
[04:08] <Ben64> laptop, right
[04:08] <chaospsychex> Ben64, no, desktop
[04:08] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: not that I know of.
[04:08] <hangdeadman> Ben64: what is the default path to music folder?
[04:09] <Ben64> chaospsychex: could you pastebin the output of "lsmod; lspci"
[04:09] <Ben64> hangdeadman: I assumed you knew where your music folder is
[04:09] <d4rkh4nd> how to chmod a folder and all contence
[04:09] <Ben64> chmod -R
[04:09] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: waiting for jockey gtk to finish -> ps -ax | grep jockey, remember pid -> kill id
[04:09] <veryhappy> *pid
[04:09] <chaospsychex> Ben64, I could but I can't seem to get an irc client to install
[04:09] <Ben64> d4rkh4nd: in the future you could check the manual, like "man chmod"
[04:10] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I tried home/weldon/Music and it tells me there is no such file or directory..
[04:10] <Ben64> chaospsychex: you don't need irc to pastebin
[04:10] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: apt-get install pastebinit
[04:10] <hangdeadman> Ben64: maybe I am typing the path wrong.
[04:10] <bertieb> Anyone have much experience of avconv / ffmpeg? I've tried asking in #libav but only got the sound of chirping crickets there.
[04:10] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, try /home/weldon/Music ? make sure your username is spelled correct with capital letters if used
[04:11] <d4rkh4nd> ty
[04:12] <d4rkh4nd> I tryed that and the contense were not moded
[04:12] <bertieb> (I ask to ask, since if there's no-one that knows a huge amount about avconv/ffmpeg asking would needlessly bog things down)
[04:13] <Ben64> bertieb: asking to ask is silly
[04:14] <bertieb> Ben64: I know, I know; but having asked in the specialist area put me off re-asking
[04:15] <bertieb> Nevertheless. Basically my problem is in creating a time-lapse video from a series of jpegs. avconv is spitting out videos that last for only 10 seconds duration, no matter what -t or rate (-r) I throw at it.
[04:15] <bertieb> eg http://pastebin.com/NNbeMLKR
[04:16] <xentity1x> Hi, I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for an nvidia quadro k2000m. The graphics card isn't showing up on the additional drivers tab. When I list the drivers in jockey, it says the proprietary driver is enabled but not in use
[04:16] <xentity1x> Can anyone advise?
[04:17] <Ben64> bertieb: you should make sure your switches are in the right positions
[04:18] <Idsi> Hello!
[04:18] <bertieb> Ben64: Cheers, I'll have another look. I've been at this for a while now so I feel I am missing something obvious but it could be slapping me in the face and I'd still miss it.
[04:19] <kelvinella> anyone know where to get help on apple stuffs?
[04:20] <kelvinella> which channel? #apple amd #iphone is like dead in water
[04:20] <dr_willis> bertieb:  i seem to recall  the ffmpeg faq having examples of doing that.. but its been ages since ive last looked at it.
[04:20] <veryhappy> kelvinella: what do you have for an issue with apple?
[04:20] <hangdeadman> where do I enter the pastebinit command into the terminal to paste an output?
[04:20] <kelvinella> veryhappy, wanna sync music but cant do it in ubuntu
[04:20] <veryhappy> command | pastebinit
[04:21] <kelvinella> veryhappy, i can install itune in win7 in virtualbox but somehow cant sync
[04:21] <veryhappy> kelvinella: sync over the internet or to a device?
[04:22] <kelvinella> veryhappy, is there a way to install itune in playonlinux?
[04:22] <bertieb> dr_willis: Yup, I think the documentation / blog posts that talk about it were probably written when you looked at it as they all refer to old ffmpeg versions with subtly varying arguments...
[04:22] <dbrom> hello all
[04:22] <veryhappy> kelvinella: well if you want to use itune i would stick with virtualbox, i just guess you still didn't setup the network connection.
[04:23] <kelvinella> veryhappy, i can copy my mp3 to my phone4 in win7 dual boot partition but cant do it in virtualbox, dont know why
[04:23] <bertieb> In fact, I've done it successfully before (only a couple months ago!) but now ffmpeg is avconv and stuff Doesn't Work(TM) in very specific and strage ways.
[04:23] <xentity1x> Hi, I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for an nvidia quadro k2000m. The graphics card isn't showing up on the additional drivers tab. When I list the drivers in jockey, it says the proprietary driver is enabled but not in use
[04:23] <xentity1x> Can anyone advise?
[04:23] <hangdeadman> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474750/
[04:23] <kelvinella> veryhappy, what network connection?
[04:23] <dbrom> kelvinella: there is something like itunes for kubuntu but you need to search for it
[04:24] <veryhappy> thank you dbrom for taking over
[04:24] <Ben64> hangdeadman: maybe this directory name? "drwxr-xr-x    2 weldon weldon     4096 Dec  5  2009 �� Void"
[04:24] <dbrom> are we all running kubuntu or are we using something else
[04:24] <dbrom> did i step on a toe
[04:25] <veryhappy> kubuntu
[04:25] <kvothetech> dbrom: songbird and rhythmbox are the closest i know of though mpd is what i use so don't know much abotu either..
[04:25] <kelvinella> dbrom, i am thinking to buy a very cheap 10 yrs old computer just to copy delete mp3 in my iphone :(
[04:25] <hangdeadman> Ben64:  I just used dolphin file manager to try to delete that folder and it says that the folder doesn't exist when trying to delete it
[04:25] <dbrom> look at format junky
[04:25] <dbrom> its a app for kubuntu
[04:26] <dbrom> ive used it and love it
[04:26] <Ben64> hangdeadman: maybe try from terminal
[04:26] <hangdeadman> Ben64: what is the command?
[04:27] <Ben64> rmdir to delete a directory, mv can rename it
[04:27] <dbrom> hooking up four monitors...they show up on the area by the activity manager but i cant use them...any ideas
[04:28] <memand> A quick question, when I press lock screen or Ctrl + Alt + L is it not supposed to go to the screensaver ?
[04:28] <hangdeadman> Ben64: failed to remove `Void': No such file or directory
[04:28] <veryhappy> memand: it should.
[04:28] <dbrom> yes it does memand
[04:29] <kelvinella> dbrom, u have used itunes for kubuntu and successfully copy and delete songs in your phone?
[04:29] <Ben64> hangdeadman: its not just Void, there are some weird characters in there
[04:29] <bertieb> dbrom: Might not help, but I gave up on having an DE detect my monitors properly (I have a mere three) and used xrandr instead
[04:29] <hangdeadman> Ben64: rmdir /home/weldon/Music/�� Void
[04:29] <dbrom> no a app like it
[04:29] <hangdeadman> Ben64: that's what I put in...
[04:30] <kelvinella> dbrom, i am on iOS 4.3 on my iphone 4.  i cant upgrade the iOS otherwise i cant use it with my carrier
[04:30] <dbrom> how do i use xrandr
[04:30] <dr_willis> Ben64:  use single quotes around the whole path perhaps
[04:30] <Ben64> hangdeadman: those probably aren't the right characters either, i think the pastebin changed em
[04:30] <dbrom> ic
[04:30] <Ben64> and yeah, quotes can help
[04:30] <memand> veryhappy, dbrom: Well it doesn't here, I suspect that it is because I purged the gnome screensaver and installed xscreensaver, but I have no idea what file to edit to specify what command to execute when I "Lock screen"
[04:30] <dr_willis> ive had to boot to linux befor. to fix funny charavers on ntfs, that windows wouldent even touch. ;)
[04:31] <kelvinella> does songbird sync with iphone4?
[04:31] <bertieb> dbrom: I'll see if I can find the resource I used, though mostly it was the manpage and seeing the output from running it without args
[04:32] <bertieb> dbrom: Basically I know my monitors arrangement, and max resolutions / refreshes and set them accordingly
[04:32] <dbrom> here is the strange thing they were set to 1920x1080 b4 i added the next two.... now there 800x600 and i cant change that
[04:32] <hangdeadman> Ben64: They are the same characters that are shown in dolphin file manager...
[04:33] <dbrom> my max res is 1920x080
[04:33] <veryhappy> memand: shouldn't you be able to set this up in the settings for your energy control?
[04:33] <bertieb> dbrom: I can't offer a technical comment on that except to say that multi-monitor support has been... up-and-down over the years
[04:34] <dbrom> two works great....
[04:34] <Ben64> hangdeadman: how about "ls -il *Void*"
[04:35] <hangdeadman> Ben64: ls: cannot access *Void*: No such file or directory
[04:35] <Ben64> fine, just "ls -il" then, and find the line for the folder
[04:36] <memand> veryhappy: I don't have an"energy control" panel I have power management and screen brightness/lockscreen but neither of those has anything to do with the screensaver (I'm on 12.04 if that makes the difference)
[04:36] <hangdeadman> Ben64: then what?
[04:37] <Ben64> hangdeadman: paste that one line in here
[04:37] <bertieb> dbrom: I can pastebin the script I use if it's of any help, but with the caeat that I don't know exactly what I'm doing and that there's likely superfluous stuff in there
[04:37] <hangdeadman> Ben64: drwxr-xr-x    2 weldon weldon     4096 Dec  5  2009 \235\235\ Void
[04:37] <dbrom> ok
[04:38] <Ben64> hangdeadman: you sure you did "ls -il"?
[04:38] <bertieb> dbrom: It won't work for your setup (ie fergodssake don't run it!) but it might be illustrative
[04:38] <Ben64> hangdeadman: it should have printed an inode number with it
[04:38] <dbrom> st give me an idea
[04:39] <veryhappy> memand: sorry, that was also what i meant "power management", yea sorry.
[04:39] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I did it and that's all i got
[04:39] <veryhappy> memand: hold on
[04:40] <bertieb> dbrom: http://pastebin.com/x40XEwi0
[04:40] <christttt> hai
[04:40] <veryhappy> you're using kubuntu right?
[04:40] <Ben64> hangdeadman: well the 2nd step won't work without the inode
[04:40] <memand> veryhappy: Well the power menu is just to specify what to do when on battery or wall powered
[04:40] <veryhappy> memand: you're using kuubtu
[04:41] <memand> veryhappy: not as far as i know :P
[04:41] <dbrom> where is the .conf file
[04:41] <veryhappy> memand: then you're using gnome?
[04:41] <memand> veryhappy: well yeah, unity
[04:41] <bertieb> dbrom: which .conf file?
[04:42] <memand> veryhappy: I'm on 12.04
[04:42] <veryhappy> memand: try to disable conky
[04:42] <memand> veryhappy: conky?
[04:43] <veryhappy> if you have it installed
[04:43] <veryhappy> memand: only if you have it installed
[04:43] <dbrom> xrandr
[04:43] <sidney_> Is there anyway to watck a dvd in Ubuntu
[04:43] <sidney_> watch
[04:43] <veryhappy> sidney_: commercial dvds?
[04:43] <dbrom> dragon
[04:43] <memand> veryhappy: I don't
[04:43] <sidney_> yes
[04:43] <OerHeks> !dvd
[04:44] <cjae> can someone tell what is making my logitech mouse extra buttons work out of the box...I am wondering, if I use xbindkeys, if it will mess up the other keys
[04:44] <veryhappy> OerHeks: you could have been nicer and help him a little bit ;)
[04:44] <dbrom> sidney: look at dragon
[04:44] <bertieb> dbrom: xrandr.conf?
[04:45] <dbrom> ok. after running the command where does the config go for xrandr
[04:45] <sidney_> dragon?
[04:45] <memand> veryhappy: But isn't there a config file somewhere that specifies what to do when I try to lock screen?
[04:45] <bertieb> dbrom: which command?
[04:46] <OerHeks> sidney, install libdvdread4 and run the install-css.sh script, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:46] <OerHeks> veryhappy, that factoid is nice, nothing wrong to give that
[04:46] <dbrom> ok brake it down. im looking at the file you sent and want to set my system up..... just need to know how....
[04:46] <veryhappy> OerHeks: ok, good buddy, that's what i would have recommended him with libdvdread4
[04:47] <hangdeadman> Ben64: 27656483 drwxr-xr-x  2 weldon weldon     4096 Dec  5  2009 ?? Void
[04:47] <samuraibsd> Is there a known issue in 12.04 that makes wifi not connect to WEP encrypted networks?
[04:47] <hangdeadman> Ben64: is that it?
[04:47] <Ben64> hangdeadman: yeah
[04:47] <enriq> is it advisable to have the partition containing /boot to be also the one with the bootable flag?
[04:47] <dbrom> the thing is two monitors are clones of each other and the third is black
[04:47] <veryhappy> memand: ok, here it could be the solution: Try the screensaver command, and see if this is the keyboard (shortcut) or the application (graphics function) that is not working gnome-screensaver-command -l
[04:47] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I tried "ls -il Music"
[04:48] <bertieb> dbrom: Okay. When I run that script to set the outputs for my montors correctly, so it is the config file of sorts
[04:49] <bertieb> dbrom: ^^ s/what I said/not ten to five in the morning grammar/
[04:49] <Ben64> hangdeadman:  "find . -inum 27656483 -exec rm -fri {} \;"
[04:49] <memand> veryhappy: not to be an smart a** but as I said earlier I purged the gnome screensaver and installed xscreensaver
[04:49] <zivester> anyone seen nfs mount issues with an updated 12.10? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474772/
[04:50] <dbrom> i change the xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 2560x1440 -r 60 to 1920x1080 -r 60
[04:50] <veryhappy> memand: oops, sorry, my fault, it's ok, sometimes you skip something while you read
[04:50] <memand> veryhappy: np, I read too fast for my own good too sometimes :P
[04:50] <hangdeadman> Ben64: rm: descend into directory `./Music/\235\235 Void'?
[04:50] <bertieb> dbrom: you'll need to run xranrd with no arguments to find how your minitors are identified
[04:51] <Ben64> hangdeadman: yeah it'll confirm everything that it's deleting
[04:51] <bertieb> dbrom: my typing is getting quite poor
[04:51] <memand> veryhappy: but do you know where I should go to direct it to xscreensaver instead of gnome screenscaver?
[04:51] <memand> *screensaver
[04:51] <bertieb> dbrom: basically you'll need to change --output too
[04:51] <hangdeadman> Ben64: sould i just hit 'enter'?
[04:52] <Ben64> hangdeadman: y for yes
[04:52] <veryhappy> well, i'm writing you what you have to try now: create a script called screenLock.py with the following code in it:  http://pastebin.com/qBu1YTgA
[04:53] <veryhappy> memand: place it in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/customExtensions/screenLock.py
[04:53] <Ben64> so why not just use the gnome screensaver?
[04:53] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I typed 'y' after everything and at the end got "find: `./Music/\235\235 Void': No such file or directory"
[04:54] <Ben64> hangdeadman: it should be gone though
[04:54] <memand> Ben64: cus xscreensaver is AWSOME
[04:54] <memand> veryhappy: thx
[04:55] <jeromest> 请教各位，我想用Banshee听音乐，但是radio里面一个频道都没有,有默认电台吗？
[04:55] <hangdeadman> Ben64: thanks!
[04:55] <veryhappy> memand: did it finally work :)
[04:56] <veryhappy> jeromest: eigohanasemasuka?
[04:57] <jimmy> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow    changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[04:57] <memand> veryhappy: actually not, I just tried to edit the file but it didn't exist, and since it's python script I don't really wanna just write it out myself
[04:57] <dbrom> this is the only time i have not liked kubuntu
[04:57] <veryhappy> memand: ok, sorry that i couldn't help
[04:57] <memand> veryhappy: np
[04:58] <memand> veryhappy: I'll get back to you if I figure something out ;)
[04:58] <Ben64> veryhappy: thats chinese, not japanese, and what you said makes no sense in japanese either
[04:58] <veryhappy> memand: no need, i'll go now
[04:58] <jeromest> veryhappy: ? Can I speak English ?
[04:58] <veryhappy> yea guys, i thought it would be japanese
[04:59] <veryhappy> with my less japanese that i know i tried to help him out, didn't work, sorry for that.
[04:59] <jeromest> veryhappy: I'm sorry , I speak Chinese !!!
[04:59] <Ben64> !cn | jeromest
[04:59] <jeromest> ubottu: But I could not get any help
[05:00] <jeromest> ubottu: bot ?
[05:00] <samuraibsd> I'm having trouble connecting to a wireless neuron
[05:00] <samuraibsd> Network *
[05:01] <samuraibsd> A wireless neuron would be cool, though
[05:01] <Ben64> jeromest: This channel is for English language help only, if you can ask in English, we might be able to help
[05:01] <jeromest> veryhappy: There has any radio address in my Banshee , How can i add it ? Thank you !
[05:01] <jeromest> Ben64: Think you !
[05:02] <veryhappy> jeromest: 请使用谷歌翻译，如果你不能够编写正确的英语。
[05:03] <veryhappy> jeromest: http://translate.google.cn/
[05:03] <JesseH> Can someone help me with this .. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:03] <JesseH> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:03] <JesseH> Dang, meant to copy paste the hastebin link ^^
[05:04] <Ben64> JesseH: you can only have one thing using apt at a time, or you have to use sudo
[05:04] <OerHeks> JesseH, do you have softwarecentre/synaptic and terminal open ?
[05:04] <JesseH> Only terminal
[05:04] <jeromest> veryhappy: I want to know how can I add radio channels in Banshee ? Thank you !
[05:05] <JesseH> OerHeks, I've tried 'dpkg --configure -a" after doing 'rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'. That didn't work.
[05:06] <dbrom> im looking for a blog that would help me with my problem of monitors not working correctly in kubuntu
[05:06] <OerHeks> JesseH, try this from terminal: sudo fuser -cuk /var/cache/apt/archives/lock; sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[05:07] <memand> veryhappy: Ok, I fixed it :) sudo ln -s /usr/bin/xscreensaver-command /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver-command
[05:07] <OerHeks> JesseH, your solution would work with dpkg not apt
[05:07] <veryhappy> jeromest: 這是一個更好的方式來溝通。在女妖在電台中單擊>點擊加號，那麼你就應該能夠進入您的數據。
[05:08] <kaar> hd
[05:08] <veryhappy> memand: damn, that was something that i forgot. i'm sorry.
[05:08] <memand> veryhappy: np :)
[05:09] <jeromest> veryhappy: You can speak English , I think i can understand simple English sentence.
[05:09] <veryhappy> jeromest: ok, did you understand what i wrote?
[05:09] <jeromest> veryhappy: Thank you very much
[05:09] <JesseH> lol What happened
[05:09] <veryhappy> jeromest: ok.
[05:10] <JesseH> Ran that commmand and the screen went black OerHeks
[05:10] <jeromest> veryhappy: I can't understand it
[05:10] <kelvinella> hi is it possible to install ubuntu or xubuntu on macbook or macbook air?
[05:10] <enriq> I just copied my /boot partition to another one, then changed fstab, that's it?
[05:10] <veryhappy> jeromest: in banshee click on radio, click on the plus sign and then enter the details of the radio station.
[05:10] <OerHeks> JesseH, did it solve that lock ?
[05:11] <jeromest> veryhappy: Thank you for translated it for me .
[05:11] <veryhappy> jeromest: i tried my best.
[05:11] <JesseH> It did, but I think it was because of me having to restart OerHeks ;)
[05:12] <hangdeadman> Ben64: nautilus still crashes when opening my music folder
[05:12] <jeromest> I tried to enter the radio station , But it can't works , Is there has any default radio channels ? Thank you !
[05:13] <veryhappy> hangdeadman: honestly under windows i'd have said, it might be a virus but in linux i'd say perhaps a bug?
[05:13]  * Pei_ is installing ubuntu
[05:13] <Pei_> so far it looks like this is desktop linux how it should be
[05:13] <veryhappy> jeromest: you have to find your own.
[05:14] <hangdeadman> veryhappy: well what can i do?
[05:14] <JesseH> Everyone has been telling me that Ubuntu fucked up starting with 11, with that Unity stuff.
[05:15] <ChaozHenchman> what Unity stuff?
[05:15] <bazhang> JesseH, no cursing here
[05:15] <ChaozHenchman> Unity itself?
[05:15] <MK`> whenever I plug in my USB headphones, I need to go into sound preferences and select it as the output so the volume controls will work with it. How can I make it so it recognizes whenever I plug in the headset?
[05:15] <veryhappy> hangdeadman: don't trust only on what i say, what you could do is perhaps file a bug at ubuntu.com
[05:15] <Tex_Nick> ! language | JesseH
[05:15] <jeromest> veryhappy: Thank you very much , although we spoke different languages , You get me so much help !
[05:15] <bazhang> JesseH, lets take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[05:15] <veryhappy> jeromest: you are welcome.
[05:16] <JesseH> I think being told to not curse, several times is far too many.
[05:16] <JesseH> I said one word, and 3 people responded.
[05:16] <bazhang> JesseH, then followthe guidelines
[05:16] <MK`> Yeah it's a bad habit of this channel
[05:16] <veryhappy> MK`: try alsastore
[05:16] <JesseH> Oh god MK` don't say bad.
[05:16] <veryhappy> MK`: sorry my fault : alsactl store
[05:17] <bazhang> JesseH, thats enough
[05:17] <JesseH> lol.
[05:17] <JesseH> I am trying to get help here.
[05:17] <MK`> Additionally, my power indicator crashed, does anyone know the name of the one for gnome fallback in 11.10?
[05:17] <dr_willis> was there an actual support questoion?
[05:18] <veryhappy> ok guys, heading to bed. take care
[05:18] <JesseH> o/
[05:18] <Muphrid> take it easy
[05:18] <veryhappy> good night
[05:18] <Pei_> lol
[05:18] <Pei_> nite
[05:18] <hangdeadman> Is there a way to re install nautilus and try to start from scratch? I've delt with this problem for too long now.
[05:19] <JesseH> bazhang, Also, talking about Ubuntu, in #ubuntu shouldn't be off-topic friend.
[05:19] <MK`> hangdeadman: just uninstall and reinstall it.
[05:19] <enriq> apparently 12.04 can install alongside 10.04, what does it do? create a new root partition and share the rest? I would expect that
[05:19] <IdleOne> "talking" is not what this channel is for JesseH
[05:19] <MK`> but, the best solution might be resetting whatever settings it has to default instead
[05:19] <IdleOne> you can "talk" in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:20] <MK`> enriq: what do you mean alongside?
[05:20] <enriq> MK`, dual boot
[05:20] <JesseH> IdleOne, Thankyou for giving me a logical reason.
[05:20] <enriq> MK`, installer says that
[05:20] <hangdeadman> MK`: how do i reset it to the default settings?
[05:20] <MK`> Ah. Well, you can install as many ubuntus as you want on a harddrive so long as you have space.
[05:20] <dbrom> here is something strange. I have four monitors one screen is black and the indicator is flashing the second is black and the indicator is on and the other two are closes....
[05:21] <enriq> MK`, that was not my question
[05:21] <MK`> hangdeadman: rm -R ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus
[05:21] <dbrom> the thing that the one thats black abd the indicator is solid is the main screen....
[05:23] <jimmy> Any good reason to go with ubuntu server over debian?
[05:23] <Pei_> :P
[05:24] <dr_willis> jimmy: #ubuntu-server may have better answers to that. Guess it depends on what  disrto you perfer. and if you like upstart over er.. what is debian using now?
[05:25] <hangdeadman> Removing nautilus and reinstalling it through the software center won't have any ill effect will it?
[05:25] <kylescottmcgill> Speaking of Ubuntu Server, im just taking a punt, but Ubuntu Server is basically ubuntu without a GUI correct? so if i wanted to configure xorg and friends, that would be the better way to go yeah?
[05:25] <dbrom> Jimmy: not really, as long as you get the server locked down and patched. and I agree with dr_wills on it depends on what you like
[05:25] <MK`> enriq I don't know if sharing partitions is supported (aside from things like tmp)
[05:25] <bertieb> dbrom: no luck with xrandr then?
[05:25] <MK`> kylescottmcgill: Ubuntu server has different kernel compile options
[05:26] <MK`> but overall it is the same
[05:26] <kylescottmcgill> MK`: thankyou, thats a no then
[05:26] <dbrom> no yet...
[05:26] <kylescottmcgill> I would rather avoid having to screw with the kernal, ty
[05:26] <MK`> yup
[05:27] <dbrom> did you read my strange things
[05:27] <ackpacket> Has anyone seen any good isntructions for installing ubuntu to a usb?  Everything I can find through google so far either concerns installing ubuntu *from* a usb, or putting the ubuntu live cd with persistance onto a usb.  I'm looking for a legitimate installation though
[05:27] <dr_willis> if you want a desktop system - go with ubuntu desktop. and install the services you need
[05:27] <yeats> !liveusb | ackpacket
[05:27] <kylescottmcgill> ackpacket: what are you on now?
[05:28] <ackpacket> I'm on windows 7, but I have access to an ubuntu VM
[05:28] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  you just tell the installer to install to  sdd or sdb or whatever the USB flash is... no differnt then installing to a normal internal HD.. be sure GRUB is installing to the USB also
[05:28] <kylescottmcgill> nevermind, yeats has you need
[05:28] <yeats> ackpacket: assuming you've seen those?
[05:28] <dbrom> ya. ubuntu desktop with the services you require is the same as the server addition
[05:28] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  ive done full installs to usb hd, and usb flash and sdhc cards dozens of times
[05:28] <bertieb> dbrom: strange things? I was over in #libav so may have missed some
[05:28] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  i normally make a live-usb and do a full install from IT to  my 'bigger' usb
[05:29] <ackpacket> I've tried going through the regular ubuntu installation process:  Inserting an ubuntu cd, booting, and using the permanent install.  Then i've selected the usb stick instead of my hd
[05:29] <ackpacket> it has plenty of errors that way =\
[05:29] <dbrom> here is something strange. I have four monitors one screen is black and the indicator is flashing the second is black and the indicator is on and the other two are closes....
[05:29] <ackpacket> For starters it tries to alter the mbr on my hdd, not the flash
[05:29] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  ive done it dozens of times with no hassles. I do manually partition the USB.
[05:29] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  you TELL the grub loader in the pulldown thing where to go.. if all else fails. Unplug the internal HDs
[05:29] <bertieb> dbrom:  at a wild guess, the modes aren't right
[05:29] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: what WM are you using? that sounds like a xrandr or xinama thing (spelling is wrong)
[05:30] <dbrom> the thing that the one thats black abd the indicator is solid is the main screen....
[05:30] <dbrom> i havent done anything yet
[05:30] <ackpacket> Ok let me give this a shot.  I'll load the ubuntu iso on a virtual machine, and go through the installation process but identify the usb as the destination.  Sound good?
[05:30] <kylescottmcgill> can you get to a terminal?
[05:30] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: ^
[05:30] <dbrom> WM?
[05:30] <hangdeadman> When trying to open my music folder with nautilus through the terminal, after a wait it crashes and I get "Bus error (core dumped)"
[05:31] <ackpacket> yeats: Yeah i've seen those sites, but isn't that different from a normal installation?
[05:31] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: Window Manager, eg Gnome 3, Awesome WM, Xmonad, etc
[05:31] <bertieb> dbrom: eg, my WM doesn't set the DGM (in the apstebin example I gave) correctly so it doesn't display anything apart from "Input out of range"
[05:31] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  i never do it via vbox. I boot a live-usb and then install to the real usb.
[05:31] <bertieb> dbrom: In another WM it just puts int into standby
[05:31] <MK`> My Update Manager says "Not all updates can be installed", the Partial upgrade recommendation, etc. Among them is linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic. What do I do?
[05:32] <dbrom> This is a total kubuntu 12.10 install...havent used windows in a few years
[05:32] <ackpacket> dr_willis: I do it through a vbox to save me the trouble of restarting, and as a safeguard incase I accidentally try to partition something I shouldn't
[05:32] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: sounds like your having heaps of problems, i would disconnect all monitors apart from one, get that working properly, then move on the others, if you have the same screen for all four, once you have one working you will be able to just modify your xorg script, and you should be nearly there
[05:32] <yeats> ackpacket: it would begin as the installation image with a persistence file, but you could tailor it to be whatever you want
[05:32] <bertieb> dbrom: so I have to use xrandr to set the modes properly (there's a toool that spits out a reasonably correct modeline given an input resolution and refresh rate, the name of which escapes me at the moment)
[05:33] <kylescottmcgill> xrandr -q
[05:33] <kylescottmcgill> will query to see what is avaliable according to your GFX and Kernal
[05:33] <bertieb> ah, cvt is the one that gives the modelines
[05:35] <dbrom> im using Nvidia 580 Ti card
[05:35] <kylescottmcgill> nvidia drivers, or open source?
[05:36] <dbrom> i have the same thing on two at thte moment and nothe on the third and the forth is not reconized...
[05:36] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  and the use of vbox may be whats causing you all the grief
[05:36] <dbrom> just went though the additional drivers
[05:36] <dr_willis> dbrom:  i thought you had 2 nvidia video cards?
[05:36] <kylescottmcgill> ok that will be the Nvidia Drivers
[05:37] <dbrom> took one out
[05:37] <dr_willis> heh :) you have One video card that can do 4 monitor outputs? ;)
[05:37] <dbrom> yes
[05:37] <MK`> how do I re-run an indicator that has crashed? When I run indicator-power it says command not found
[05:37] <dr_willis> I have to wonder why you had the 2nd card installed  in the first place.. ;)
[05:38] <kylescottmcgill> yeah... does the 580 do 4 monitors?.... i want one
[05:38] <dbrom> i wanted to run 2 per at one point
[05:38] <dbrom> yes it does
[05:38] <jayzon915> Hello World
[05:38] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  so far it can.. in theory. ;)
[05:38] <yeats> MK`: try typing 'indicator-<TAB>' for autocomplete
[05:38] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  we all know how often the nvidia drivers on linux lack features.
[05:38] <kylescottmcgill> hmmm im building up a PC atm and i have to get a GFX card, so i might look into that (been looking at ATI so far)
[05:39] <MK`> must be part of multiload.
[05:39] <kylescottmcgill> lol ya
[05:39] <jayzon915> I am curious about nVidia Drivers too... Trying to use WINE to game and my in game FPS is jumping around like crazy. Any advice?
[05:39] <dr_willis> I dont have enought desk or wall space for 4 monitors
[05:40] <kylescottmcgill> lol neither.... i will sit on the floor instead
[05:40] <dr_willis> jayzon915:  it can depend  on so many factors. ;)
[05:40] <bazhang> #winehq jayzon915 after checking the appdb
[05:40] <bazhang> !appdb | jayzon915
[05:40] <jayzon915> Yeah... WineHQ says it should run well
[05:40] <dbrom> should i go open source drivers in stead
[05:40] <MK`> yeats it's not showing up :( I have the package installed...
[05:40] <yeats> MK`: not sure then
[05:41] <dr_willis> dbrom:  open source drivers may not support  multi monitors very well..  but you could always test them with a live cd. ;)
[05:41] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: i dont think so, i think its just a x<something> issue
[05:41] <dr_willis> There are often weird limits to the nvidia drivers.. for example i belive you cant rotate one monitor 90 degrees in linux. like you can in windows.
[05:41] <dbrom> the thing is that when i go into the Nvidia manager it sees all four but I only have access to two
[05:42] <dbrom> i can to 180 wih mine
[05:42] <dr_willis> it might be a limit  of the drivers.. or a bug in the drivers.
[05:42] <dr_willis> from what i saw on askubuntu.com however. a guy with 2 identical cards set up 4 monitors. and gave his example xorg.conf
[05:43] <dbrom> i have no idea what to do next
[05:43] <dr_willis> You have 2 monitors that clone the other 2 basically?
[05:43] <Hwkiller> dr_willis: you should be able to rotate with nvidia
[05:43] <Hwkiller> i've done it
[05:43] <dr_willis> Hwkiller:  you couldent (from what i read) rotate just ONE of the monitors. :) that was the core of the issue i was reading about
[05:43] <MK`> what about my other issues?
[05:43] <MK`> My Update Manager says "Not all updates can be installed", the Partial upgrade recommendation, etc. Among them is linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic. What do I do?
[05:44] <dbrom> no, I have one that close the other and the other two are black (no picture)
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[05:44] <dr_willis> Hwkiller:  it might be fixed by now also.
[05:44] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: you could *try* xorg -configure
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[05:44] <FloodBot1> Guest_73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[05:44] <kylescottmcgill> it will probe your devices and reset up your xorg conf file, also i would look into DPS or something
[05:44] <dr_willis> dbrom:  from what ive read. you just enable twinview. extend desktop.. and  save teh xorg.conf and restart the x server...
[05:45] <kylescottmcgill> floodbot looks like its on the move
[05:46] <dr_willis> floodbot flooded me with mode changes. ;)
[05:46] <kylescottmcgill> yeah i got that too
[05:46] <kylescottmcgill> weechat needs a filter or something
[05:46] <dr_willis> i need to figure out how to filter those out in weechat
[05:46] <dr_willis> im sure it can do it..
[05:46] <kylescottmcgill> lol ^^
[05:47] <dbrom> could it be as easy as the splitter im using
[05:47] <neobenedict> [05:46:56] <@FloodBot1> mtb-vero, this is a check to ensure that you're human and not a spambot: What color is a blue butterfly?
[05:47] <neobenedict> it's obviously red
[05:47] <neobenedict> >.>
[05:47] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: your using a splitter?
[05:47] <dbrom> yes
[05:48] <dbrom> 2 dvi to 4
[05:48] <bertieb> FWIW, My experiece with AMD 3 monitor setup has been that neither the generic xorg (+/- reconfigure) not amdcccle would detect/save resolutions/refresh properly, so I went down the xrandr route which is working (touch wood) okay for now
[05:48] <kylescottmcgill> ahhh, ok, i know this isnt the same but i nearly jumped off the bridge because of this
[05:49] <kylescottmcgill> i have a macbook running Ubuntu, and i have a Thunderbolt -> VGA, and it doesnt pick up the devices properly
[05:49] <dbrom> if i use two cards it wants me to use two different desktops.... if i do so how do i switch between them
[05:49] <kylescottmcgill> i had to Disable in my case DPMS (i think)
[05:50] <dr_willis>   kylescottmcgill   this 'might' send mode chang4es to the status window ;)    /set irc.msgbuffer.mode weechat
[05:50] <kylescottmcgill> oh ty
[05:50] <dr_willis> 4.6.9. Target buffer for IRC messages
[05:51] <dr_willis> http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html
[05:51] <jeromest> Can I ask a questions ? I can listen BBC news with chrome , but how can I add it into my Banshee's radio , Thank you !
[05:51] <kylescottmcgill> Floodbot come at me again :D
[05:51] <kylescottmcgill> ty dr_willis  i will check that out
[05:51] <dr_willis> jeromest:  often you can right click in the player and get a stream url. you can paste into other players
[05:52] <chaotix> when creating a new live usb, what is the best filesystem type to format to?  i have heard that ext4 is best, but then why does the default live usb creator in ubuntu use (fat32?) ?
[05:52] <dbrom> if i use two cards it will not allo me to combine the for together
[05:53] <hangdeadman> What is the best looking and most customizable file manager for ubuntu besides nautilus?
[05:53] <jeromest> The internet address is "http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_6music" , But I can't find the stream url . Can you help me ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> chaotix:  a Live-usb uses fat32 becasuse its a live usb. :0 a full install would be best with one of the ext#'s
[05:53] <TheHypnoTaco> would there be a special reason to use the 32 bit version of a 64 bit version if the CPU supports 64 bit, but you only have 2 GBs of RAM? Such as does the 64 bit Ubuntu use more RAM than the 32 bit version like Windows ?
[05:54] <dr_willis> chaotix:  you could put the live-usb stuff on a ext2/3/4 i think. but not sure why you would want to
[05:54] <dr_willis> TheHypnoTaco:  i use 64bit os on all my 64bit hardware reguardless of ram
[05:54] <kylescottmcgill> chaotix: use fat32
[05:54] <kylescottmcgill> Most computers can read this off the bat, and the boot partition on it needs to be fat32 anyway
[05:54] <Hwkiller> It doesn't really matter; people use fat32 so you can see the files on any system
[05:54] <kylescottmcgill> for bios boots
[05:54] <dr_willis> chaotix:  on a live usb. any space not used by the os/persistant files canbe used/accessed by windows - if you want.
[05:54] <Hwkiller> as long as grub2 has fs drivers for it, you can use it
[05:55] <TheHypnoTaco> dr_willis: So it's not going to pull a Windows 7 and use 1.7 GBs ideling, when the 32 bit version with the same programs uses about 900 MBs only ?
[05:55] <hangdeadman> What is the best looking and most customizable file manager for ubuntu besides nautilus?
[05:55] <dr_willis> TheHypnoTaco:  never noticed. ive been using 64bit os for ages.
[05:55] <bertieb> See how (for avconv) say %3d.jpg is shorhand for [001.jpg .. 999.jpg], what's the shorthand for the non zero-padded version [ie 1.jpg .. 999.jpg] ?
[05:55] <Hwkiller> hangdeadman: pcmanfm, thunar
[05:56] <Hwkiller> hangdeadman: or look into something totally different, like ranger. that's what I use
[05:56] <dr_willis> hangdeadman:  depends on your needs in a file manager... Looks are trivial compared to functions you want/need
[05:56] <TheHypnoTaco> dr_willis: I guess then I'll download the 64 bit one.  I may go lighter though with Xubuntu.
[05:56] <kylescottmcgill> hangdeadman: mc
[05:56] <dr_willis> mc - is a MUST learn about tool. ;)
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info gentoo
[05:56] <Hwkiller> (I prefer ranger over mc)
[05:56] <kylescottmcgill> :D
[05:56] <dr_willis> then theres dozens of other 2 pane file managers
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info ranger
[05:57] <dr_willis> Python! ;P
[05:57] <bertieb> TheHypnoTaco: if it's idling, what difference does RAM useage make? :P
[05:57] <kylescottmcgill> i know its not as popular, but i love anything thats lua based, gives me the control back :D
[05:57] <chaotix> thanks guys
[05:57] <dr_willis> been using 2 pane file managers for.. well.. decades. ;)
[05:57] <jeromest> dr_willis: The chrome address is "http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_6music" , But I can't find the stream url . Can you help me ? Thanks !
[05:57] <jeromest>  
[05:58] <TheHypnoTaco> bertieb: when I went to go playing my games , everything :o
[05:58] <TheHypnoTaco> but I'm just looking for a XP replacement now, since I put the games on another newer machine
[05:59] <TheHypnoTaco> I may go LTS to try and have that "leave me alone for a while" XP mentallity too
[05:59] <bertieb> TheHypnoTaco: Playing a game is different from idling, AFAIH Windows aggressively caches files to RAM, which makes it look like it's using a buncha RAM. But this is getting waaay O/T
[05:59] <dr_willis> jeromest:  looks to me like that site ONLY works with their built in player
[05:59] <MK`> My Update Manager says "Not all updates can be installed", the Partial upgrade recommendation, etc. Among them is linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic. What do I do? :S
[05:59] <TheHypnoTaco> bertieb: yes.
[06:00] <jeromest> dr_willis: Thank you !
[06:00] <dbrom> ok. im out. talk later.... be back tomorrow
[06:00] <Muphrid> MK`: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <bertieb> Any advance on a non-padded version of (eg) %3d. man printf is terse, to say the least!
[06:02] <vrnithin> hi,
[06:02] <vrnithin> how to find glib-2.0 in our system ?
[06:03] <vrnithin> am trying to build bumblebee from source.
[06:03] <Hwkiller> so you're looking for the dev package?
[06:03] <vrnithin> but they are showing  No package 'glib-2.0' found
[06:03] <vrnithin> but i installed it
[06:04] <jeromest> dr_willis: By the way , which stream type can be used for Banshee radio on ubuntu ? Only mms or other type ?
[06:04] <MK`> Muphrid: what would that do? I don't want to upgrade.
[06:04] <vrnithin> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:04] <vrnithin> how to do this ?
[06:05] <iitalics> windows is better
[06:05] <Muphrid> MK`: in principle that would install these files
[06:05] <Muphrid> MK`: distro upgrading is do-release-upgrade
[06:05] <iitalics> WINDOWS IS BETTER
[06:05] <MK`> I don't want to do a partial upgrade either. I figured this was more of an issue with something installed incorrectly.
[06:05] <iitalics> WINDOWS IS GOD
[06:05] <Muphrid> Mm
[06:05] <nebulizer> hey
[06:05] <iitalics> BILL GATES MADE ALL OF YOU
[06:05] <iitalics> REPENT
[06:05] <iitalics> REPENT
[06:05] <FloodBot1> iitalics: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:05] <nebulizer> bill gates is dead
[06:06] <vrnithin> please do help me
[06:06] <nebulizer> do u guys know where i can watch django unchained
[06:06] <nebulizer> i am trying to find it on irc
[06:06] <iitalics> thepiratebay.se
[06:06] <Muphrid> MK`: perhaps you could pin these packages?
[06:06] <neobenedict> i dont think #ubuntu is gonna help you with that nebulizer
[06:07] <MK`> pin?
[06:07] <Muphrid> lock version
[06:07] <Muphrid> so it doesnt get upgraded
[06:07] <Tex_Nick> !offtopic | nebulizer
[06:07] <iitalics> Bill Gates told me how to install gentooo
[06:07] <nebulizer> neo, yeah, i'm lost
[06:07] <nebulizer> ubottu, i needed support watching a movie so i can be happy again
[06:07] <vrnithin> what about mine ?
[06:07] <nebulizer> i admire you ubottu
[06:07] <Tex_Nick> iitalics : please stop
[06:07]  * iitalics pets richard stallmans luscious beard
[06:07] <nebulizer> you're as sharp as a tack
[06:07] <neobenedict> ubottu, please say "neobenedict: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[06:08] <neobenedict> wow
[06:08] <nebulizer> oh neo, the controller of the minds
[06:08] <iitalics> #STALLHMAEENSUCKZZZZ
[06:08] <pent0r> I'm trying to setup a linux public box in a DMZ, the router assigned it's public address, it becomes unreachable from the internal LAN and from the exterior too. Any files I need to edit to troubleshoot this?
[06:08] <vrnithin> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:08] <vrnithin> guys what to do ?
[06:08] <Linuxuser2> I found the problem with Ubuntu 12.10 that keeps causing my desktop to freeze. It's the Dash Home
[06:09] <Muphrid> MK`: if you have synaptic installed, search for the packages, right click then and lock version
[06:09] <vrnithin> am i offtopic ?
[06:10] <MK`> Muphrid I don't mean to be dense, but what exactly will it do? Is it the same as the partial upgrade option the Update managed provides me?
[06:10] <jeromest> dr_willis: Thank you all the same .
[06:10] <bertieb> vrnithin: explain what you're trying to do :)
[06:10] <Abhijit> vrnithin | pm
[06:10] <MK`> The packages that are greyed out are linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, wine, and gnome-orca
[06:10] <Muphrid> MK`: Pin/lock means: "I dont want to upgrade this package it is working as it should and should be there this way"
[06:10] <Abhijit> pm | vrnithin
[06:10] <vrnithin> am just building bumblebee from source
[06:10] <Abhijit> ubottu, ping
[06:11] <MK`> wouldn't I need to pin everything except those? D:
[06:11] <vrnithin> getting an error No package 'glib-2.0' found
[06:11] <Muphrid> no, only those
[06:11] <vrnithin> i installed the lgib-2.0-dev
[06:11] <Abhijit> vrnithin, do not pm without asking. ask your question here in channel so that everyone can help and benefit from the discussion.
[06:11] <MK`> ah, so this would just make it be quiet. But, those are important packages, are they not?
[06:11] <Abhijit> bot is dead
[06:12] <bertieb> And I think you said you had already made sure you'd installed the -dev version, yeah?
[06:12] <Abhijit> bertieb, can you read me?
[06:12] <Muphrid> MK`: kernel fixes, they are sometimes but not always
[06:12] <bertieb> Abhijit: yup
[06:12] <Abhijit> oh. thanks.
[06:12] <MK`> eh,... I might just reinstall.
[06:13] <Muphrid> MK`: you have 3 options, pin, stay as you are and wait for it to be upgradeable sometime, or just upgrade it
[06:13] <MK`> I also cannot seem to get my battery indicator working.
[06:13] <Muphrid> MK`: only the battery? is it showing up but not working or not showing up at all?
[06:14] <MK`> It was working fine before, but now it's not showing up as of a few hours ago.. I even purged and reinstalled indicator-power but it's not reappearing.
[06:14] <MK`> not showing up
[06:15] <yeats> Abhijit: you have to prefix bot commands with a ! (e.g. !pm)
[06:15] <Abhijit> yeats, oh yeah right. i forgot it.
[06:15] <vrnithin> whats mean by PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[06:16] <silv3r_m00n> we have 1 modem -> 1 switch -> 3 pcs(all ubuntu), it appears that whenever more than 1 pc is turned on, the internet speed on all pcs slows down, inspite of ping repsonse times being good, what could be the reason ?
[06:16] <Abhijit> vrnithin, what are you trying to do?
[06:16] <dr_willis>   kylescottmcgill   that command does seem to filter out the mode changes. ;)  isent weechat cool.    /set irc.msgbuffer.mode weechat
[06:16] <vrnithin> Abhijit: building bumblebee from source.
[06:18] <Abhijit> vrnithin, ok. and what are the issues you are facing?
[06:18] <vrnithin> Abhijit, No package 'glib-2.0' found
[06:19] <yeats> !find glib
[06:19] <vrnithin> Abhijit, i installed glib-2.0-dev
[06:20] <MK`> any idea Muphrid?
[06:20] <Muphrid> MK`: googling it
[06:20] <vrnithin> Abhijit,Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:20] <hangdeadman> How do I make pcmanfm default file manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:20] <kelvinella> hi is ubuntu 32bits can only read 4 GB of ram?
[06:21] <Muphrid> MK`: check this http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=276418
[06:21] <Abhijit> vrnithin, try intstalling libglib2.0*
[06:21] <kelvinella> if i have 8 GB ram laptop, should i install ubuntu 64 bits instead? whats pros and cons?
[06:21] <Abhijit> vrnithin, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0
[06:21] <Abhijit> vrnithin, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0*
[06:22] <Muphrid> kelvinella: 32bits can only addres 2^32 bytes of ram which is 4.2gb
[06:22] <Abhijit> vrnithin, use the second command with star
[06:22] <MK`> Muphrid: I came across something similar as well. It's still set to true in the settings (I never changed it)
[06:22] <kelvinella> Muphrid, is there speed diff between 32 bits and 64 bits?
[06:22] <Muphrid> kelvinella: no, speed is the same
[06:22] <Muphrid> MK`: i presume reboot didnt work aswell?
[06:23] <vrnithin> Abhijit,k thanks it working fine...
[06:23] <Abhijit> vrnithin, welcome.
[06:23] <kelvinella> if i installed 64bit, do i have all the softwares in the repo?
[06:23] <MK`> I will try rebooting next I guess
[06:23] <Abhijit> vrnithin, you can always search for available lirary in software center by typoing e.g. glib in search box OR you can do apt-cache search glib in terminal
[06:24] <Muphrid> kelvinella: yes, those who have no port will work if you install ia32-libs
[06:24] <kelvinella> so if i custom build a desktop, do i build one with 4GB and dont bother with more ram?
[06:25] <hangdeadman> How do I make pcmanfm default file manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:25] <Muphrid> kelvinella: if you think you dont need more than 4gb...but ram is cheap nowadays, id just dual channel 4gb
[06:26] <MK`> kelvinella: go with 64-bit if you're building a new one.
[06:26] <imgx64> "sudo apt-get upgrade" gives me this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474895/ , is it actually safe to use -f?
[06:27] <Muphrid> imgx64: you could install these dependencies
[06:27] <kelvinella> so do i download diff iso for 64bit?
[06:27] <MK`> kelvinella: yes.
[06:27] <vrnithin> Abhijit,k thank u very much...its done..
[06:28] <Muphrid> kelvinella: if you plan to use more than 4gb of ram, yes
[06:28] <imgx64> Muphrid: Yes, but it gives a similar message about having to use "-f" if I try to install them with apt-get install. Is it safe to use -f or is there a chance to break my system?
[06:28] <kmonlinux> how to i use crontab to schedule my works
[06:28] <Muphrid> imgx64: is software center working right now?
[06:29] <kelvinella> can i install ubuntu 64bits in virtualbox if i am running ubuntu 32 bit?
[06:29] <imgx64> Muphrid: I haven't tried it actually. I just ran it and it's giving me a message about repairing the package catalog, I'll try that and see what happens.
[06:29] <Muphrid> LOL
[06:29] <genius> hi
[06:29] <genius> friends
[06:29] <Muphrid> imgx64: yes it is safe, -f is for --fix-broken
[06:30] <Muphrid> i was thinking on -force
[06:30] <genius> i just installed GUI on ubuntu server using apt-get install desktop-ubuntu
[06:30] <kelvinella> what dcc chat?
[06:30] <genius> it is installed properly
[06:30] <genius> but
[06:31] <dr_willis> genius:  you mean 'ubuntu-desktop' ?
[06:31] <genius> yes
[06:31] <Abhijit> kelvinella, yes. only if your cpu is 64 bit.
[06:31] <genius> after that i am not able to see the taskbar
[06:31] <Abhijit> i mean only if your cpu supports 64bit virtualisation.
[06:31] <Muphrid> kelvinella: i dont think you can guest 64 bit on a 32bit host
[06:32] <genius> hover is working properly
[06:32] <dr_willis> genius:  whats your video card? and what do you see exactly.
[06:32] <genius> but i think i need to change its background colors
[06:32] <hangdeadman> How do I make pcmanfm default file manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:32] <kelvinella> the laptop had win7 64bit on it and i format and install xubuntu 32bit
[06:33] <Muphrid> kelvinella: is it 4gb of ram?
[06:33] <elfer_> why not ubuntu 64 bit?
[06:33] <dr_willis> hangdeadman:  that may not be a very good idea. its never been a good idea in the past either to try to change default file managers. It can cause all sorts of weirdness
[06:33] <elfer_> thats just silly
[06:33] <kelvinella> yes 4GB ram
[06:33] <elfer_> 4gm of ram is more than enough
[06:33] <genius> hi dr_willis:
[06:33] <genius> can u help
[06:33] <elfer_> unless you are running a web server
[06:33] <genius> me
[06:33] <Muphrid> if you dont plan to put more ram then theres no reason to put 64bit
[06:33] <hangdeadman> dr_willis: thanks
[06:33] <imgx64> alright, using -f fixed my problem. thanks.
[06:33] <elfer_> thats not the point
[06:33] <dr_willis> genius:  you really havent given much details.. other then 'its not working'
[06:33] <elfer_> even if you have 64 bit
[06:33] <elfer_> anything more than 4-6 gb of ram
[06:33] <elfer_> is not needed
[06:34] <elfer_> unless running a web server from your computer lol
[06:34] <dr_willis> genius:  if your 3d drivers are not working right that can mess up Unity
[06:34] <dr_willis> I always go 64bit on all my 64bit hardware. ;) reguardless of ram.
[06:34] <kelvinella> i thought there are not many softwares for 64 bit os i pick xubuntu 32bit
[06:35] <Muphrid> kelvinella: even if there arent they will run through 32 bit emulation
[06:35] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  these days for most 'common desktop user' people it dosent really matter what you pick.
[06:35] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  its easier for me on my lan. to stick with 64bit on all the machines
[06:35] <Muphrid> apt will fetch the needed libs automagically
[06:36] <kelvinella> ok maybe my next machine i will try 64 bits
[06:36] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  when i was doing a lot of video reencoding and work.. i definatly saw some time saved with 64bit over 32bit.
[06:36] <kelvinella> because i have some specific softwares are 32bit i386 only so i am not sure i can run it in 64 ubuntu
[06:36] <dr_willis> for daily web surfing and email. not so much.
[06:37] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  ive seen very few software these days taht cant run on 64bit. i cant even think of any.
[06:37] <dr_willis> zsnes used tobe one.. but it works now. ;)
[06:37] <kelvinella> maple
[06:37] <dr_willis> never heard of maple.  so no idea
[06:37] <genius> dr_willis: desktop GUI is up and working properly but only taskbar is not visible but rest of the GUI desktop is visible
[06:37] <kelvinella> math software like mathematica or matlab
[06:37] <dr_willis> genius:  what 'taskbar' are you refering to?
[06:38] <kelvinella> does xfig run in 64 bits?
[06:38] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  makes you wonder what they are doing  so weirdly that all this other 32bit stuff works fine...
[06:39] <genius> dr_willis where "application" other status bar icons are present
[06:39] <kelvinella> i mainly use lyx, texmaker, xfig, maple.  dont know if they will work fine in 64 bits
[06:39] <dr_willis> genius:  you see a large row of icons on the left hand side? You are using  the default 'ubuntu' desktop from the login manager?
[06:40] <dr_willis> genius:  and you are using 12.10 ?
[06:41] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[06:41] <genius> dr_willis: No large row is not visible , and yes am using 12.1
[06:41] <kelvinella> is zorin good?  is it really big recently?
[06:41] <Muphrid> actually its a column
[06:41] <dr_willis> if the unity left side is not showing. it may be because your 3d drivers have the system confused.
[06:41] <kelvinella> everybody is talking about zorin os
[06:42] <Muphrid> kelvinella: zorin crashes a lot and it is very easy to make a mistake and delete the awn panel
[06:42] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  we rarely even hear it mentioned in here.. so not everyone is talking about it. ;)
[06:42] <Muphrid> if you have no clue about it
[06:42] <dr_willis> You can install awn on ubuntu :) if you wanted.
[06:43] <kelvinella> just that recently many windows user hates on win8 and switch to zorin os
[06:43] <kelvinella> maybe it looks like windows i dont know
[06:43] <genius> dr_willis: icons are not visible but accessed from the top
[06:43] <Muphrid> kelvinella: yes its intention is to look as close do windows as possible
[06:43] <dr_willis> genius:  that statement makes no sence to me.
[06:43] <Muphrid> to*
[06:44] <dr_willis> genius:  check that your proper video card drivers are installed and see if that helps
[06:44] <Muphrid> genius: is your screen mainly blue, grey, purple or light blue?
[06:44] <dr_willis> a screenshot would be worth 10000 words. ;)
[06:45] <genius> dr_willis: is there any way to open console on ubuntu
[06:45] <genius> on GUI
[06:45] <dr_willis> but a common issue with unity is 3d drivers confused and the unity plugin, or compiz not working right
[06:45] <Muphrid> genius: ctrl alt t
[06:45] <dr_willis> console = alt-ctrl-f1 through f6. F7 for X... a TERMINAL window can be poened with alt-ctrl-t normally
[06:46] <JonnyRo> How well does ubuntu play on Mac hardware? I have tje
[06:47] <dr_willis> JonnyRo:  ive seen lots of people with issues with mac hardware in here.. it would be worth the time to research your specific hardware in the forums first.
[06:47] <JonnyRo> Er, 1.66 ghz mac mini running osx 10.4
[06:47] <kelvinella> last time i try to install ubuntu 12.04 in the laptop, in liveCD the screen is rotated 180 upside down.  what is the problem?
[06:47] <bertieb> righty, g'night all!
[06:48] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  thats interesting.. not heard of that issue befor.
[06:48] <kelvinella> should have taken the screenshot
[06:48] <JonnyRo> Dr_willis, one upside is that as somewhat older hardware it might be better supported. Good advice though, to the forum!
[06:48] <Muphrid> kelvinella: not sure, though you can rotate it back 180 degress in the monitor section in system settings
[06:48] <kelvinella> maybe later weekend when i have time
[06:48] <dr_willis> like a screen shot whould have shown much. ;)
[06:49] <Ineedhelp> I need help!
[06:49] <JonnyRo> Touche
[06:49] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  you should state the problem..
[06:49] <JonnyRo> Sounds like a rogue meme
[06:49] <Ineedhelp> I have ubuntu 12.04 installed on my usb flash drive, I try to boot from my new custome build computer, and I get a black screen.
[06:50] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Ineedhelp
[06:50] <Ineedhelp> Ok.
[06:51] <JonnyRo> I will be using that piece of advice next week
[06:52] <Ineedhelp> I was directed to a link telling me to impliment code into the kernel. Where do I type this code?
[06:53] <dr_willis> at the boot/grub menu.. i thought it even showed screenshots of how to doit...
[06:53] <Ineedhelp> I'm sorry, i'm new to ubuntu, and its 1 am :P
[06:54] <Muphrid> Ineedhelp: check the section How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[06:54] <Muphrid> on that link
[06:54] <dr_willis> at the grub menu, hit 'e' for edit.. change 'quiet splash' to be 'quiet nomodeset splash'
[06:54] <Ineedhelp> ok
[06:55] <Ineedhelp> Thanks
[06:56] <machicola> Just installed Ubuntu 12.10.. how do I go about switching from unity to gnome type desktop?
[06:56] <dr_willis> !nounity
[06:57] <machicola> thankyou
[06:57] <dr_willis> the gnome-2 type fallback mode has been scheduled to be removed in a future relase.. so far its been kept alive. ;) so dont rely on it being here forever.
[06:57] <dr_willis> If you want an old skool type desktop. you may want to check out xfce, or lxde
[06:58] <dr_willis> and the gnome2 fallback modes are NOT identical to gnome2 there are differances
[07:02] <machicola> what should I pick for my display manage if I'm going with gnome-panel or fallback even? gdm or lightdm?
[07:02] <machicola> manager*
[07:02] <machicola> or does it really matter
[07:02] <Ben64> don't think it matters
[07:02] <machicola> ok thanks
[07:02] <Flynsarmy> jrib: found teh answer to the issue you were helping me with earlier http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56267/ubuntu-software-raid5-dev-devices-changed-will-mdadm-raid-break incase you were interested
[07:18] <Ineedhelp> Thanks so much guys, you were a big help :)
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> **New to linux** I currently run Windows 7 and run Diablo 3 flawlessly. 60+ fps with High Settings. I would like to move over to Ubuntu for many different reasons and the main thing that's holding me back is that I can not get Diablo 3 to run smoothly.
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> I installed Ubuntu 12.10 and switched from Unity to 'Gnome-Session-Fallback' because I've been reading that Unity has a negative impact on performance. I have upgraded the OS, 'apt-get upgrade' and believe that everything is updated to the fullest. I am using PlayOnLinux v4.1.8 and Wine 1.5.5 patched for Diablo 3. The game installs and appears to run fine. However, when I get in game the fps drops and jumps like crazy. I hav
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> e lowered all of the settings to low except I left the monitor resolution at 1080p. If there are mobs on the screen it drops to about 4 fps and is unplayable. It is not the initial game loading lag. I use all skills in town and I have ran through an entire Alk run with the performance sucking the entire way. :-)
[07:20] <FloodBot1> whiterabbit_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> PC Specs
[07:22] <whiterabbit_> Can I get some Guru assistance? http://pastebin.com/R7SrZXwC
[07:23] <Guest21774> hi
[07:23] <Guest21774> everyone
[07:23] <whiterabbit_> hello
[07:29] <jarray52> I'm trying to upgrade my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but I don't have the upgrade option in Update Manager. Any suggestions?
[07:29] <lorddelta> So, I realize hibernate doesn't work on some machines...e.g. mine will go to sleep fine, but powering up doesn't work, I have to discard the sdisk data...is Canonical working on this and is there any way I can help? I'm just curious as to the state of work...
[07:30] <lorddelta> jarray52: check the settings
[07:30] <lorddelta> jarray52: you probably need to change the dropdown box from Check for new release "Never" to "Only LTS"
[07:31] <jarray52> lorddelta: Software Sources -> Updates -> Release Upgrade is set to "Long Term Support Releases only".
[07:31] <lorddelta> Sounds right. That's what I have mine set to. Then do a Check, it should let you know you can upgrade...
[07:31] <whiterabbit_> Can I get some help with nvidia drivers from anyone?
[07:32] <jarray52> lorddelta: If I change Software Sources -> Updates -> Release Upgrade to Normal releases, I get the option to upgrade to 10.10. However, that results in a failed to fetch error.
[07:32] <jarray52> lorddelta: I would prefer to do an LTS update.
[07:33] <lorddelta> jarray52: hmm, I can't say for sure (I did non LTS before 12.04), but it sounds like you have a repo problem; I can give you mine if it helps?
[07:33] <kevinlu310> anybody knows how to let Ubuntu 12.04 know the right battery info?
[07:33] <jarray52> lorddelta: That would be helpful.
[07:34] <jarray52> lorddelta: Could you dpaste /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <jarray52> ?
[07:35] <lorddelta> http://pastebin.com/ejPgLmxY
[07:35] <lorddelta> Hope that helps!
[07:36] <lorddelta> There's a bunch of garbage in there, be warned, but my update works fine...
[07:36] <lorddelta> It hails from 9.10 days I believe
[07:36] <lorddelta> that or 10.04
[07:40] <Ineedhelp> I just installed ubuntu, now when I power on my machine, all i get is a flashing cursor.
[07:40] <Fudge> jarray52  look in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[07:41] <lickalott> doesn't sound like you installed it right Ineedhelp
[07:41] <Ineedhelp> I tried ubuntu, clicked install ubuntu, than after the restart, I just get this.
[07:41] <MonkWitDaFunk> maybe the linux kernel.your using cannot detect the hardware
[07:41] <lickalott> do you see the bios post?  or you get the cursor when the OS is supposed to load?
[07:42] <Fudge> and/or can switch to a console, control+alt+f1
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> I get a motherboard screen, than the cursor
[07:42] <MonkWitDaFunk> my acer aspire x1700 has problems running ubuntu 11.10
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> ctrl alt F1 does nothing for me
[07:42] <lickalott> try install again
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> How
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> I cant install again
[07:42] <Fudge> using the cd
[07:43] <lickalott> leave the disc in the tray and reboot the machine, then boot from CD/DVD
[07:43] <Ineedhelp> I have it on a flash drive, I put the flash drive back in and it still gives me the blank screen
[07:43] <Fudge> depending on your motherboard, pusing f12 may option you to boot form usb
[07:43] <lickalott> you don't have a disc tray?
[07:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> did you see the bios post?
[07:43] <Ineedhelp> No
[07:43] <TaraJo> i went to update ubuntu 12.10 and got.. Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404  Not Found
[07:43] <Ineedhelp> I just get a strange sound when ever I hit a key
[07:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> is your hardware setting set to show the bios post?
[07:44] <lickalott> get into your boot menu and choose your usb device
[07:44] <MonkWitDaFunk> theres two settings
[07:44] <Ineedhelp> I can't get into my boot menue. It doesn't prompt me
[07:45] <lickalott> with the usb drive installed it gives you the cursor?  have you tried to boot without it in?
[07:45] <Ineedhelp> It gives me a thing that would indicate typing. I have tried with and with out it
[07:46]  * TaraJo needs help.. went to update ubuntu.. and got.. Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404 Not Found
[07:46] <TaraJo> and i don't remember what to do
[07:47] <Ineedhelp> Hello!?
[07:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> you have to find a way to boot ubuntu
[07:48] <Ineedhelp> Well how do you suppose I do that.
[07:48] <MonkWitDaFunk> my situation with my.acer should be solved using an lts version of ubuntu
[07:49] <lickalott> whats on the usb drive?  can you plug it into the rig you're on now and see?
[07:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> make sure you have a good power supply, graphics and keyboard
[07:49] <Ineedhelp> Sure
[07:49] <Ririshi> Hey
[07:49] <Ineedhelp> Its called its self Install Ubuntu (E:)
[07:50] <Ririshi> Who could try to help me booting a lubuntu 12.10 image off a USB stick?
[07:50] <MonkWitDaFunk> disconnect the memory and see if you can look at the bios
[07:50] <Ineedhelp> By memory do you mean ram?
[07:51] <Fudge> usually pushing tab makes your computer logo go away and show the writing, the post screen where you are offerred to push delete or f2 usually to enter the bios, often f12 or f8 will give you a one time boot menu to choose your usb device also.
[07:52] <MonkWitDaFunk> do you know what keys.to hit before your motherboard makes a beep?
[07:52] <lorddelta> So anyone know about what's in the line for ubuntu hibernate to come back online? Is it an issue with upower? Specific hardware drivers? It worked in 10.04 fine...
[07:52] <Ineedhelp> No, I just built this rig
[07:52] <Ineedhelp> I'm new to ubuntu, and this is NOT a good start.
[07:53] <Ririshi> Fudge: when I select my USB device, it tells me to remove disks or media and press any key to restart..
[07:53] <lickalott> you don't have a cd/dvd drive you can use?
[07:53] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  have you posted your hardware to the channel so we have an idea, if so i simply missed it? I assume the drive was blank when you first booted off the pen drive
[07:53] <Ririshi> oh oops..
[07:54] <Ririshi> lickalott: you are talking to me? or you was talking to Ineedhelp?
[07:54] <TaraJo> Fudge.. i went to update ubuntu 12.10.. and got.. Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404  Not Found
[07:54] <TaraJo> and i don't remember how to fix that
[07:54] <lickalott> Ineedhelp
[07:54] <Ineedhelp> Yes the hd was blank, I decided to give ubuntu the full partition.
[07:54] <Ineedhelp> Yes Lickalot
[07:54] <lickalott> but...  either your jumpers aren't right on your drives (if not using SATA) or the usb drive isn't bootable
[07:54] <Fudge> TaraJo  try an apt-get update see if it helps
[07:55] <lickalott> i was answering Ririshi Ineedhelp
[07:55] <Ineedhelp> Ok
[07:55] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp, try finding out which keys you can hit before the mobo makes a beep or two. :(
[07:55] <Ririshi> oh wow someone talks to me (:
[07:55] <Ineedhelp> MonkWitDaFunk: ok
[07:55] <Ririshi> lickalott: I'm on a netbook and I have no external optical drive ):
[07:56] <lickalott> then your usb drive isn't bootable
[07:56] <Fudge> Ririshi  you want to boot from usb but your pc doesnt recognize it to boot from?
[07:56] <TaraJo> ok, that must of worked, because i didn't get any error messages
[07:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp, are you working on an old computer?
[07:56] <Ineedhelp> No I just built this
[07:56] <Fudge> TaraJo  now try the upgrade or install lintion, what ever gave you the error before
[07:57] <Fudge> MonkWitDaFunk  has Ineedhelp  actually posted the hardware?
[07:57] <Ririshi> Fudge: I can choose it and then it just doesn't see the boot thing or so and it tells me to remove the USB and press any key to reboot..
[07:57] <Ineedhelp> You want the system specs, Ok.
[07:57] <Ririshi> Fudge: so in fact what you just said is correct.
[07:57] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  motherboard for starters mate
[07:58] <Ineedhelp> MSI 760GM-E51 (FX) AM3+ AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
[07:58] <Fudge> Ririshi  ive chimed in late here, but has the usb device booted previously and what is on it? how did you put ubuntu on it for example
[07:58] <TaraJo> thanks.. that worked that time
[07:58] <Fudge> cheers TaraJo
[07:58] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp, drivers are a good thing to think about. the linux kernel can detect whats on a computer bus during installation
[07:58] <TaraJo> okie dokie i see ya.. thanks again :)
[07:58] <Fudge> Ineedhelp I expect when you turn your computer on, push delete key, not backspace until the bios cmos screen comes up
[07:59] <Fudge> please confirm that enters the bios, then look for your boot menu and change boot  order so the usb device which should be inserted to a working usb port, is present as the first boot device
[07:59] <Ririshi> Fudge: it hasn't booted yet, only got this error on here. I put (l)ubuntu on it using Unetbootin, LiLi, Universal USB Installer and Rufus. (I tried them all)
[07:59] <Ineedhelp> Ok switching boot device
[07:59] <MonkWitDaFunk> id look at the bios with the hard disk unplugged ineedhelp
[07:59] <Fudge> ok Ineedhelp
[08:00] <Fudge> Ririshi  any other computer you can test the usb in
[08:00] <Fudge> or external dvd drive
[08:00] <Ririshi> Fudge: not here. I'm in japan at this moment..
[08:01] <Fudge> Ririshi  oh youre travelling... whats on the hard drive
[08:01] <zmanfx> Is there really no channel topic or is my client being funky?
[08:02] <Fudge> zmanfx   /topic #ubuntu
[08:02] <zmanfx> /topic #ubuntu
[08:02] <zmanfx> Yeah
[08:02] <zmanfx> No slash commands ...
[08:02] <Ineedhelp> Ok, I know my gpu has issiues with booting. So what do I need to put between quiet and splash?
[08:03] <Ririshi> Fudge: I'm on win7 now.
[08:03] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  I have an am3 8150 and no problem booting
[08:03] <Fudge> Ririshi  see if you can start wubi from the usb stick and install that way if you want to try it
[08:03] <Ineedhelp> Listen, I know that I need to edit the line. What do I put between quiet and splash --
[08:04] <Ririshi> Fudge: okay.
[08:05] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  I dont know or the file you are talking about editting. Did you get as far as the grub menu and then  black screen after that?
[08:06] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp cannot see the bios post message and thinks the gpu is out of use
[08:07] <Ineedhelp> Fudge:  I just fixed this problem, In "try ubuntu without installing" there's a line I need to edit. I need to put somthing between quiet and splash. I just don't remember what
[08:07] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  'quiet nomodeset splash' You mean? or you can just use 'nomodeset' and remove the quiet splash
[08:07] <Ineedhelp> Thank you dr_willis
[08:07] <Fudge> Ineedhelp good luck then, think dr_willis has you sorted there
[08:17] <Flynsarmy> I just created a RAID5 array and after rebooting /dev/md0 changed to /dev/md/xbmc:0… is that normal?
[08:39] <knytm4r3> settings?
[08:39] <knytm4r3> nang VPN
[08:45] <memand> anyone who knows if it is possible to make so that when you Alt+Tab it only switches between programs on the active workspace?
[08:47] <dufa> memand: sure, it dose that to me
[08:48] <memand> dufa: weird, not here
[08:48] <dufa> mut i dont remember what settings i have changed
[08:48] <dufa> i'll take a look
[08:49] <dr_willis> memand:  theres various altnertives to alt-tab you can twiddle with in the compiz/ccsm tool.
[08:49] <dufa> you can make it happen in the system settings
[08:49] <dr_willis> and settings for the alt-tabbing.
[08:49] <dufa> open keyboard
[08:49] <memand> dufa: when I do it here it choses between all workspaces ad then drags it to the active workspace. Very annoying :P
[08:49] <here> hello , my ubuntu is so slow
[08:50] <memand> dr_willis dufa : thx :)
[08:50] <dufa> go to the shortcuts
[08:50] <dufa> you need to change the "switch application" to alt+tab
[08:50] <memand> the  ccsm was what I was looking for :)
[08:51] <dufa> well, good luck
[08:52] <memand> thx
[08:52] <dr_willis> thers some nifty 'whatever-tab' alternatives in ccsm also. ;) if you want a totally differnt look
[08:53] <linuxearth> how can i password protect a folder or a zip folder??
[08:54] <jeromest>  Hello , Is there anyone familiar with Banshee ?
[08:54] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[08:54] <dr_willis> that guide may be a little old. askubuntu.com may have better answers
[08:54] <Ineedhelp> How do I run a program as root in ubuntu?
[08:55] <linuxearth> but i just don't want to encrpt the whole directory but only some single and separate files
[08:55] <linuxearth> so is that possible?
[08:55] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  'sudo appname'
[08:55] <dr_willis> you can encrypt files.. yes
[08:56] <linuxearth> can a zip file be password protected?
[08:56] <dr_willis> probrely a dozen ways to do it - depending on how you want to manage them. and  how paranoid you want to be
[08:56] <auronandace> !gksu | Ineedhelp
[08:56] <linuxearth> can a zip file be password protected?
[08:58] <dufa> linuxearth: yes, you can passwd protect zip files
[08:58] <linuxearth> how do i do that?
[08:58] <xiaclo> yes, zip -e will encrypt and prompt for a password
[08:59] <linuxearth> means i have to run like: zip -e <filename>
[08:59] <linuxearth> ??
[08:59] <xiaclo> yes zip -e <filename>.zip <file1> <file2> <file3>
[08:59] <linuxearth> and how can many small files be made into one file in a .zip file with password please let me know that command
[09:00] <dr_willis> that dosent make a lot of sence linuxearth
[09:00] <linuxearth> sense?
[09:00] <xiaclo> I don't think there is a practical limit, although you probably want them in a directory first to make the command easier ... you can zip entire directories as well
[09:00] <xiaclo> the example I posted is to compress 3 files into a single zip, but you can add as many as you want
[09:00] <dr_willis> mergeing a bunch of text files into a single huge text file  linuxearth ? why would you want that
[09:01] <dr_willis> I imagine you should be telling us what you are trying to acomplish.
[09:01] <linuxearth> why i want that is my wish, but only how it could be achieved is the talk right now
[09:02] <linuxearth> dr_willis: man you are confusing me
[09:02] <dr_willis> cat the files into a huge file  if thats what you really want...
[09:02] <dr_willis> how you Undo the mergeing.. is the question linuxearth .
[09:02] <dr_willis> linuxearth:  I think you are confused as to what you really want to do.
[09:02] <linuxearth> xiaclo: how can i concatenate the files
[09:02] <xiaclo> dr_willis: you're confusing me as well.  Multiple files in a single zip is quite a common thing.  It's the point of using zip and other archives
[09:02] <lorddelta> Hate it when that happens...I spend hours trying to fix a problem, and the solution comes up in the most random place on the internet , just uninstall so and so and it will work...X_X
[09:02] <dr_willis> xiaclo:  thatss not what he was asking...
[09:03] <dr_willis> xiaclo:  he wanted them merged befor the zip - from what i read.
[09:03] <linuxearth> dr_willis: you have deviated the topic
[09:03] <dr_willis> or else he dident understand there would be One zip with all the files.
[09:03] <xiaclo> linuxearth: you don't concat the files, you just add multiple files into the one zip
[09:03] <dr_willis> which is why i asked for clarification
[09:04] <lorddelta> linuxearth: drag and drop your files into archive manager?
[09:04] <lorddelta> Should do the trick?
[09:04] <linuxearth> yes
[09:04] <linuxearth> xiaclo: thanks man i try your commands and try to create the password with the command you gave at first
[09:05] <linuxearth> lorddelta: i try man
[09:06] <narutolinux> hello
[09:07] <dr_willis> howdy
[09:07] <narutolinux> is there any way to adjust the notifications, its on the top right, but its actually too low
[09:07] <dr_willis> narutolinux:  its supposed to be down a little bit. Ibelive thats for 'special' notifications to always be at the very top.
[09:07] <memand> dr_willis: Do you know, what they mean by <Primary> when they are talking about keyboard bindings in ccsm?
[09:08] <dr_willis> memand:  i think thats the normal Mouse left click button.
[09:08] <dr_willis> memand:  but i saw that the other day. :) and wasent sure.
[09:08] <memand> dr_willis: oh right, that makes sence :)
[09:08] <dr_willis> Im not in unity/compiz to test. Playing with gnome-shell right now
[09:08] <narutolinux> dr_willis, oh that's weird, on cinnamon it was on the top right, but on xfce4 its lower
[09:09] <memand> dr_willis: I'll tell you in  a sec ;)
[09:09] <lorddelta> Anyways *does happy dance* hibernate works great again! :)
[09:09] <narutolinux> lol
[09:09] <cub> is there a command to list SATA ports on ubuntu?
[09:09] <lorddelta> cub: lshw? maybe?
[09:10] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[09:10] <dr_willis> I need more sata ports.. ;) and a bigger case.. and more hard drives... then i need more sata ports...
[09:12] <lorddelta> cub: my sudo lshw shows up a sata controller that theoretically has 4 ports, but I only have a single physical port. So I wouldn't necessarily trust the hwinfo...
[09:12] <lorddelta> But perhaps I don't know something about IBM pc arch...
[09:12] <cub> yeah
[09:14] <memand> dr_willis: Ok, I officially have no idea what the "<Primary>" button is supposed to be...
[09:15] <memand> I found an article talking about Emacs referring to Ctrl as the Primary modifier... But that's not much help :P
[09:16] <dr_willis> memand:  ;) #compiz may know
[09:16] <dr_willis> be sure to tell us.
[09:17] <cub> is there a command to find out the make of my desktop?
[09:17] <cub> or would i use the same command
[09:17] <cub> nvm
[09:17] <cub> it's the same command
[09:17] <cub> ty :)
[09:18] <dr_willis> Index
[09:18] <dr_willis> » Newbie Corner
[09:18] <dr_willis> » Compiz writes <Primary> modifier instead of <Control>
[09:18] <dr_willis> seems tobe a bug.. :) from what i got on the google-fu
[09:18] <memand> hehe ok thanks :)
[09:20] <dr_willis> aparently its a rather nasty and been around for a long time bug. ;)
[09:21] <imperfec1-> Anyone here using boinc with server>
[09:23] <Ineedhelp> I'm installing an nvidia driver, it says I need to run it as root. How do I do that.
[09:23] <Ineedhelp> ?
[09:24] <Ineedhelp> Hello?
[09:25] <column> Can someone help me. I had windows installed on one hard drive and unbuntu on another. I deleted the umbutu partitions and now i cant boot into windows. First time linux user, be gentle
[09:25] <gvo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia Ineedhelp: try that first.
[09:26] <gvo> win7? column:
[09:27] <column> yes its windows 7. When i try to boot i get error: no such device and a grub rescue prompt
[09:27] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  you have tried the nvidia drivers from the repositories first?
[09:28] <OerHeks> colomn repair your boot with your windows 7 dvd, or seek help in #windows
[09:28] <Ineedhelp> I'm a very new user to ubuntu, please dumb it down a bit :P
[09:28] <gvo> Ineedhelp: Did you visit that web page?
[09:29] <Ineedhelp> Yes
[09:29] <genius> can anyone tell me
[09:29] <column> oerheks the problem is i cant even boot from disk
[09:29] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp: run the 'software-sources' tool -->    software-properties-gtk
[09:29] <genius> command to install dpkg-source on ubuntu
[09:29] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  the last tab - 'addaditional drivers' SHOULD show any extra drivers taht can beinstalled
[09:30] <ole_> oole_oz6oh
[09:30] <ole_> nich
[09:30] <gvo> column: boot from the installation DVD
[09:32] <ole_oz6oh> hello friends. i am lokking for some hints with glade and combine with a little c program
[09:32] <column> gvo: I would if I could but I cannot boot from either of my hard drives or any boot disk
[09:32] <ole_oz6oh> looking
[09:32] <gvo> column: change the boot order in your bios to boot from dvd first.
[09:33] <ole_oz6oh> Is the a special glade channel ?
[09:34] <JoaoSantana> hi all
[09:34] <xgoo> hii jaoSantana
[09:34] <JoaoSantana> i'm a bit stuck with quickly and glade, someone can help me plz?
[09:35] <genius> can anyone tell me the pakage which i need to install for dpkg-source and other utils
[09:35] <ole_oz6oh> Joao hello i have big problems with glade
[09:37] <JoaoSantana> hi ole_oz6oh glade is so awful :(
[09:37] <gvo> glade irc irc.gimp.net #glade3 channel
[09:37] <dufa> JoaoSantana: ask a question, mayba we can help
[09:37] <ole_oz6oh> gvo thanks
[09:38] <gvo> There's a mailing list for glade too: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/glade-users
[09:38] <ole_oz6oh> joao yes but i will try to work with it  difficult
[09:38] <ole_oz6oh> gvo ok i will try thanks
[09:39] <JoaoSantana> dufa I need to fill three combo boxes with some data wich is passed to user. in glade i can do that, but with quickly it's more difficult.
[09:40] <ole_oz6oh> joao i have made a channel for you go there please
[09:53] <omry> cant update packages on my maverick, I get 404 for some basic repos. for example : http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[09:53] <omry> is maverick discontinued?
[09:53] <radopi> ubuntu 10.10 isn't supported anymore
[09:54] <omry> radopi, so its been killed so hard so I cant even upgrade it?
[09:54] <radopi> i think
[09:54] <omry> I hope you are wrong
[09:54] <omry> this is a reason to abandon an os.
[09:55] <radopi> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/10/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-end-of-life-reached-on-april-10-2012/
[09:55] <radopi> you should reinstall
[09:55] <radopi> but you can bachup /home
[09:56] <radopi> and have a look at linux mint
[09:56] <omry> radopi, there is a link there for upgrade
[09:56] <omry> I will try it
[09:56] <radopi> yes
[09:56] <gvo> omry: usually there are alternate repos so you can upgrade
[09:56] <omry> if I am reinstalling, it will be of an OS that will not just delete the repo tree when it no longer support a distro
[09:57] <radopi> try linux mint
[09:57] <omry> I tried multiple
[09:57] <radopi> http://linuxmint.com/
[09:57] <omry> gvo,  radopi - I think I`ll get back to debian.
[09:57] <radopi> that's a good choose
[09:57] <radopi> but have a look at gentoo
[09:57] <radopi> its easy
[09:57] <usr13> omry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:00] <Flynsarmy> I created an array with sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 and rebooted. /dev/md0 no longer exists after reboot but /dev/md127 and /dev/md/xbmc:0 do…why is that? I've added ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=1.2 name=xbmc:0 UUID=3dcfe843:c2300a40:75190922:f6caf9c7 to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[10:01] <usr13> omry: What ever you install, create separate partition for /home/
[10:03] <Muhammad_Saad> My PC has a Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01). Which driver performs better for this device? The default free one or the proprietary one?
[10:04] <dr_willis> when somthing goes EOL theres a set time. then the files get moved to an archive server... you have Plenty of time to upgrade befor that happens
[10:05] <Bonez> 12.10 server x64, no gui installed, server boots just fine, no console login prompt. how do i fix it?
[10:06] <omry> okay, the upgrade help page is useless
[10:06] <dr_willis> Bonez:  thats unusual. whats the video card? it could be some quirk with the framebuffer console
[10:06] <omry> why on earth did they delete the old repo tree? are they that low on disk space?
[10:06] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: How is it working now?
[10:06] <dr_willis> omry:  they move them to a archive server. for ease of maintance from what i gather
[10:07] <Bonez> dr_willis: no idea. didnt have any issues with 12.04, its dell optiplex so i'm guessing its intel
[10:07] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[10:07] <omry> dr_willis,  this appears to be on the archive server:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[10:07] <omry> or should have been
[10:07] <Muhammad_Saad> Kubuntu 12.10
[10:07] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: Fully updated?
[10:08] <Muhammad_Saad> Yes
[10:08] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: Ok.  You're good.
[10:09] <Muhammad_Saad> Does the proprietary driver offer any performance benefit?
[10:09] <dr_willis> Bonez:  you could try some differnt resolitions in the grub configs, or try nomodeset. but ive no idea why a server would need that.
[10:09] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...wl/+bug/994255
[10:09] <dr_willis> Bonez:  or  try the 'text' option that should go to a simple text based console
[10:10] <Bonez> dr_willis, how to add nomodeset to the grub config?
[10:10] <dr_willis> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse                  stuff gets moved to the 'old-releases'server
[10:10] <dr_willis> Bonez:  hit 'e' at the grub menu. edit the line. thats looks similer to '.... quiet splash .....'   to be ' .... quiet nomodeset splash ...'
[10:11] <dr_willis> or you could just use 'nomodset text'   perhaps..
[10:11] <dr_willis> instead of quiet nomodeset splash
[10:11] <dr_willis> or if you want real verbose text messages/logs   'noquiet nosplash nomodeset text'  ;)
[10:11] <dr_willis> some of these options may be outdated, or redundant these days
[10:12] <penguinman> dr_willis, i think it will default to no quiet assuming the quiet option isn't passed
[10:12] <dr_willis> yea. but i like to be  overkill. ;)
[10:13] <dr_willis> i normally set my defaults to be where stuff shows.
[10:13] <dr_willis> I think theres a 'verbose' option as well that gives a lot of text messages as it boots
[10:13] <Bonez> dr_willis, is there no file i can modify and just reboot?
[10:13] <penguinman> yeah, i remember that
[10:14] <dr_willis> Bonez:  you normally edit /etc/default/grub then rerun update-grub IF you want it permenet
[10:14] <dr_willis> editing grub menu is a ONE TIME for that boot only  option.
[10:14] <penguinman> good for testing
[10:14] <dr_willis> You said you couldent see the screen? or did i missread
[10:14] <dr_willis> if you can ssh in. ;) you could edit the /etc/default/grub
[10:15] <Bonez> Nope, cant login on console, ssh is all i got at this point
[10:15] <dr_willis> ssh can do it then. ;)
[10:16] <dr_willis> if editing the default/grub you may want to do some other changes...
[10:16] <penguinman> ok, I officially need a new project, I am bored out of my mind these days
[10:16] <dr_willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[10:16] <dr_willis> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[10:16] <dr_willis> puts grub in a nice failsafe text menu mode
[10:16] <Bonez> try just that one for now?
[10:20] <dr_willis> id just go all out and use 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash text verbose'  ;P
[10:20] <dr_willis> and uncommend the GRUB_terminbal line..
[10:20] <dr_willis> Uncomment the beep item at the end.. Its cool ;P
[10:21] <penguinman> oh god, that hurts my ears just thinking about it....
[10:21] <dr_willis> Star Wars Imperial Death March:
[10:21] <dr_willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 4 440 4 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 8 659 4 659 4 659 4 698 3 523 1 415 4 349 3 523 1 440 8"
[10:21] <dr_willis> ;P
[10:21] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <Bonez> dr_willis, that worked, partaily, i could see the boot, but screen went black when the login prompt should of come up
[10:22] <dr_willis> Bonez:  weird, I dont use server a lot.. i thought all that would disable the framebuffer..
[10:22] <penguinman> Bonez, try a ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you can get a tty
[10:22] <dr_willis> i was about to suggest that.. ;P
[10:23] <usr13> dr_willis: nomodeset ?
[10:23] <dr_willis> theres some options to make the system switch to tty7 by default
[10:23] <dr_willis> seen that get weird.
[10:23] <dr_willis> or you see some logs on tty7 and not the login:
[10:23] <Bonez> penguinman, nope, nothing
[10:23] <dr_willis> so you are using 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash text verbose' ?
[10:24] <penguinman> hmmm, what gfx card/driver are u using?
[10:24] <dr_willis> and you did rerun update-grub after making the changes?
[10:24] <Bonez> yeah i did the update-grub, and penguinman, its dell optiplex so assuming its intel
[10:24] <penguinman> that too.
[10:25] <dr_willis> im not even sure of any other options to try to force the console into any other modes/disable the framebuffer
[10:25] <dr_willis> theres no X at all on the server?
[10:26] <Bonez> nope, no x, no gui at all
[10:26] <dr_willis> do server installs even have pymouth?
[10:26] <dr_willis> plymouth
[10:26] <dr_willis> thats what gives the fancy boot splash animation.. and causes some issues at times
[10:26] <chazword> Does anyone know of a way to have mdadm resync all drives in a RAID?  It's easy if a RAID is in a bad state, but not sure how to tell it to go through and verify a resync on a RAID that it thinks is fine.
[10:27] <Bonez> dr_willis, i do see the plymoth init scripts
[10:27] <penguinman> Bonez, maybe a purge remove of plymoth might be an option
[10:28] <penguinman> that shouldn't break anything on a server install
[10:29] <Bonez> penguinman, cant uninstall plymouth.
[10:30] <penguinman> Bonez, hmmm, does it look like it's using any kind of high res framebuffer on boot?
[10:30] <Bonez> doesnt show anything during boot, just a black screen
[10:31] <Flannel> You can, however, remove all of the plymouth themes, which should stop some of the silliness on boot.  This is as close as you're going to get to removing plymouth.
[10:31] <dr_willis> theres a text based pymouth theme also
[10:31] <dr_willis> Why cant you remove pymouhth?
[10:31] <usr13> Bonez: grep getty /etc/init/*
[10:32] <usr13> Bonez: grep getty /etc/init/* | pastebinit
[10:32] <penguinman> passing boot time options to the kernel shouldn't require an initramfs update should it?
[10:32] <Flannel> dr_willis: because theres some parts of upstart (or something else in the boot sequence) that depend on things plymouth does.
[10:32] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymouth
[10:33] <dr_willis> that seems.. weird. :)
[10:33] <dr_willis> makes me wonder what plymouth does other then causes problems.  ;P
[10:33] <penguinman> ugh, i just wish ubuntu would jump over to systemd sometimes....i know, heresy.
[10:33] <Bonez> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475245/
[10:33] <dr_willis> try the text based plymouth theme i guess
[10:33] <dr_willis> penguinman:  this channel will be murder for weeks after that happens
[10:34] <dr_willis> we still get people mad about sysv...
[10:34] <penguinman> true, but would be worth it in the long run
[10:34] <penguinman> especially on the new ultrabooks with ssds.
[10:34] <usr13> Bonez: That looks normal.  Ok.
[10:35] <penguinman> but anyway, back to the topic at hand.
[10:37] <dr_willis> i really do wonder what actual functonality plymouth serves on a server install.
[10:37] <penguinman> probably none. my guess is just some legacy code in upstart requires it
[10:37] <dr_willis> or did they have to shoe-horn it in so hard to the system that they just cant remove it. :)
[10:38] <Bonez> all the plymouth services are stopped too btw
[10:38] <dr_willis> its actually part of that initrd or whats it called.. pre-loading disk image..
[10:38] <dr_willis> well once the system boots. plymouth would stop. ;) untill reboot/shutdown i think
[10:39] <penguinman> so it's essentially compiled into the kernel? what....individual....came up with that idea?
[10:39] <dr_willis> I never did dig too deeply into the complexitys of the booting. :0
[10:39] <memand> Is it possible when you launch a program trough terminal to specify witch workspace it should launch in, and that it should be maximized?
[10:39] <dr_willis> penguinman:  the idea was to have it so early in the boot process that the end user (granny and grampa) dont see any scary text messages and have a lovely boot animation
[10:40] <penguinman> but i like my scary text messages :(
[10:40]  * hotelcalifornia some hacker here ? spammer ? carder :P
[10:40] <dr_willis> memand:  ages ago many apps could take a +XxY argument for initial position and size.. but thats been ages ;)
[10:40] <dr_willis> memand:  devilspie can sort of do it also.
[10:41] <homecable> /msg bigjohn moved free shells to /server irc.darkinfo.org channel #/b/ enjoy
[10:41] <homecable> whoops
[10:41] <homecable> fuck
[10:41] <hotelcalifornia> ^^
[10:41] <dr_willis> xterm -geometry GEOM.
[10:41] <homecable> damn fuckin client
[10:41] <memand> dr_willis: well the thing I want to do is make some programs start in different workspaces on boot/login
[10:42] <dr_willis> compiz can force some apps/windows to specific workspaces also.
[10:42] <dr_willis> theres a windows rules plugin
[10:42] <cjae> how do you tell version of nouveau?
[10:42] <dr_willis> memand:  id bet this has been covered on askubuntu.com also
[10:43] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/89946/open-application-in-specific-workspace
[10:43] <dr_willis> ')
[10:43] <memand> dr_willis: Yeah sorry, I should really ask google before asking here...
[10:44] <penguinman> cjae dpkg --info nouveau should tell you
[10:45] <cjae> penguinman: nope
[10:45] <donnie> Wow. It's almost near impossible to get someone on lubuntu..
[10:46] <gvo> donnie it works so well, no one needs help
[10:46] <donnie> No.. I'm on zorin which = lxde and there's some peeves I have I'd like to address :)
[10:46] <dr_willis> memand:  :) the answer seems to be compiz plugins. or devilspie
[10:47] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[10:47] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:47] <dr_willis> ive heard zorin has issues that are not in the normal lubuntu.. but no personal experience with it.
[10:48] <donnie> It does
[10:48] <donnie> Lxpanel likes to freeze and send the cpu in to over drive often. And there's a ton of wannabe windows 7 features
[10:48] <k1l> donnie: better ask the zorin support
[10:49] <donnie> They never answer but I'll go in and sing them a song or something :D
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> donnie  #zorinos
[10:49] <dr_willis> we have nothing todo with zorins features here. ...
[10:49] <dr_willis> sounds like a good reason to not use zorin.
[10:49] <penguinman> ok cjae try this dpkg -s nouveau | grep Ver
[10:49] <k1l> donnie: if you dont like the support, dont use the OS. :/
[10:50] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, that channel is no more afaik
[10:50] <dr_willis> I imagine zorin will some day be no more . :)
[10:50] <cjae> penguinman: nope
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> zorinos is ubuntu's look-good-derivative
[10:50] <dr_willis> makes me wonder if theres a site that lists/shows all the ubuntu spinoffs and die-off variants...
[10:51] <cjae> penguinman: I even asked in #nouveau but no answer
[10:51] <k1l> dr_willis: wikipedia got a list for that
[10:51] <OerHeks> dr_willis,  there should be an #not-ubuntu channel, but this is getting offtopic
[10:51] <dr_willis> heh.. #not-ubuntu :) is a good idea..
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ubuntu_family_tree_11-06.png
[10:52] <knacker> not sure if I'm asking in the right place but after a year of running a seriously FUp install of Ubuntu I finally "broke" it yesterday when I accidentally removed a few packages I shouldn't have and I can no longer get online to re-install either wireless or wired,, got the original install cd but can't fix issue.  other problems with install that I've ignored because its been running perfect... till now.  thanks for any advice
[10:53] <wdp> btw. are there 700 mb images of ubuntu?
[10:53] <wdp> not sure the 750mb will fit on the cd
[10:54] <dr_willis> wdp:  not of ubuntu for 12.10
[10:54] <dr_willis> wdp:  i think 12.10 lubuntu fits on cd.
[10:54] <wdp> dr_willis, is there an earlier release which i might use?
[10:54] <dr_willis> with 12.10 ubuntu finally went to the dvd size.
[10:54] <dr_willis> so anything earlier. :)
[10:55] <dr_willis> if you MUST use cd.. then you could install lubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop package
[10:55] <dr_willis> easier tojust use a usb flash
[10:55] <OerHeks> ubuntu 12.10 fits on a 800 mb cd+r
[10:55] <penguinman> yeah, i love my 4 gig flash drive for installations
[10:55] <FlowRiser> agreed
[10:55] <penguinman> plus its much much faster
[10:56] <wdp> dr_willis, hard enough to tell my little sister how to burn a cd.
[10:56] <wdp> :-)
[10:56]  * wdp hates doing such stuff on teeh phone
[10:56] <penguinman> cjae, i think the issue may be that nouveau isn't a seperate pkg in ubuntu.
[10:56] <cjae> penguinman: right
[10:57] <penguinman> cjae, is there any reason you need a specific version
[10:57] <sideeffect> how to add stuff to taskbar in ubuntu?
[10:57] <sideeffect> i cant just right click
[10:57] <penguinman> sideeffect, just drag it over from the dash
[10:57] <cjae> wanted to able to use it in a google queries penguinman
[10:58] <penguinman> hmmm, launchpad might have it listed, one second
[10:58] <dr_willis> sideeffect:  you are refering to the gnome-2 classic like mode panels? or the unity left side panel?
[10:58] <knacker> anyone willing to help or point me in the right direction.  turned my laptop into a brick, can't fix it w/o help. I've been trying
[10:59] <sideeffect> i wanted add small temperature window to the panel
[10:59] <sideeffect> on the right side
[10:59] <sideeffect> and this curves to observe the cpu and memory workload
[10:59] <dr_willis> right side? Hmm.. not seen a right side panel by default in Unity or the gnome classic stuff..
[10:59] <penguinman> cjae, ok, got it, the specific name is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, so run apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[11:00] <sideeffect> no, bottom panel at right side, side doesnt matter :D
[11:00] <dr_willis> sideeffect:  so... you are using which desktop?
[11:00] <sideeffect> i isntalled ubuntu 12.10, and changed to gnome look
[11:01] <dr_willis> thats a good thing to tell us at the beginning...
[11:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[11:01] <cjae> penguinman: yes you did thanks, how the heck did you find that? I was searching for awhile
[11:02] <penguinman> was googling, and remembered the naming conventions for video drivers
[11:02] <cjae> aah I c
[11:02] <cjae> thanks again
[11:02] <penguinman> np
[11:03] <denisc> knacker: I had to use iwconfig a few days ago after removing a vital gui network connection package - some details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[11:04] <Star_Light> hello. I have some text files in ubuntu and I want to convert it on PDF .... I tried to make some work with online covertors but I always get a message which is an error "Invalid type of file" what can I do?
[11:04] <Rewarding2012> clear
[11:05] <penguinman> Star_Light, i believe libre office can save as pdf
[11:05] <penguinman> Star_Light, if nothing else just open in that and save to pdf
[11:06] <Star_Light> lol
[11:06] <Star_Light> you are right :P
[11:06] <Star_Light> what a jerk I am
[11:07] <penguinman> Star_Light, its fine, everyone has those moments
[11:07] <Star_Light> hahah thank you :)
[11:07] <knacker> hey denisc, thx for replying.  not a problemy config setting, atleast not this problem.  I uninstalled a package and it uninstalled my network manager and a bunch of other packages and now I don't even have the connection applet, my wireless hardware switch does nothing and I cant get online to reinstall all the packages.  any suggestions?
[11:08] <elx> Hi there guys
[11:09] <penguinman> knacker, well, the way i would do that is boot up a live cd/usb and chroot into my install
[11:09] <elx> im trying to install windows 8 together with ubuntu on my internal HDD while i want to install W8 from an external HDD. i extracted the .iso but can't make the external HDD bootable
[11:09] <elx> have searched all over the place but nothing works...
[11:09] <elx> any ideas?
[11:09] <denisc> knacker: I'd pull up a terminal and see if you can get the interface up using iwconfig (for wireless) or ifup for ethernet. I can suggest a few commands if you like, but I'm no expert!
[11:10] <elx> so my question is how can i make an external HDD bootable on ubuntu?
[11:10] <knacker> I've got a bunch of live cd's but can't or just don't know how to install specific packages from a CD.
[11:11] <knacker> i'll give the terminal another chance as I know very little, only that I had things going good for a while... thanx guys for dealing with dumb questions
[11:12] <knacker> don't want to keep using this ancient laptop although it runs pretty good with Xfce
[11:13] <knacker> when I opened a terminal yesterday right after I noticed the applet was gone and my wifi light would not respond to the hardware switch and it didn't display any interface other than local
[11:14] <denisc> knacker: do you have a wireless connection you can connect to? If so, at the command line, type : sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "name of your network"
[11:15] <dr_willis> knacker:  install specific packages from a cd? You copied some .deb files to a cd?
[11:15] <dr_willis> elx:  i just install grub to my external HD or usb, or even sd or sdhc card and they can boot.
[11:16] <dr_willis> elx:  as for windows 8 however .. you should be asking in #windows on how set that up to install from a external medium
[11:16] <knacker> i've got a wireless, give me a sec and I'll let you know what I get back
[11:17] <elx> dr_willis, I already have Ubuntu installed and GRUB setup i'm trying to use my external HDD instead of a DVD to install W8 on the internal HDD
[11:17] <dreameunited6> how to format a corrupted usb drive in ubuntu similar to dat of windows
[11:17] <denisc> knacker: if you have the .deb packages as suggested by dr_willis, then you can install them from the command line also with: dpkg -i  package-name
[11:17] <denisc> YOu'd probably want to try network-manager
[11:17] <dreameunited6> how to format a corrupted usb drive in ubuntu similar to dat of windows
[11:18] <elx> dr_willis, the issue is that making an external hdd bootable in windows is actually simple but nobody has any idea on how to do that on Ubuntu and i need that coz i am on ubuntu
[11:18] <dr_willis> elx:  grub2 can boot ISO files.. if you use the right options..
[11:18] <dr_willis> elx:  last i heard about windows isos you could 'dd' them to  a drive and boot that drive.
[11:18] <knacker> network manager is what got uninstalled along with a bunch of other packages
[11:18] <dr_willis> elx:  windows specific tools MIGHT work with wine also.
[11:18] <dreameunited6> use unibootin to make bootable drives
[11:18] <knacker> not paying attention and just hitting ok
[11:19] <elx> dr_willis, exactly thats how it is done on windows using the command prompt, no ideas on how could that be possible be ubuntu though :(
[11:19] <dr_willis> elx:  exactly whats how?
[11:19] <denisc> knacker: the problem with trying to installing individual packages when not connected to the net is that you might not have all of the dependencies; best to try and connect to the net in my experience. Do you have an ethernet connection you could try? That's probably easier than wireless
[11:21] <knacker> i can't connect by ethernet either.  no response at all for any connectivity.
[11:21] <hakin9> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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[11:21] <elx> dr_willis, by using the bootsector restoration tool on windows: here it is show how it's done right in the end of the page : http://www.intowindows.com/install-windows-8-from-external-hard-drive/
[11:21] <hakin9> ---------------------------------
[11:22] <dr_willis> Create a bootable Windows VISTA, 7 or Windows 8 install USB drive from ISO or DVD with Linux    http://www.plop.at/en/winusbinstall.html
[11:22] <elx> dr_willis, thanks i'll give it a try, hope it works
[11:23] <dr_willis> elx:  or just dd the iso file straight to  the flash....
[11:23] <dr_willis> i dont see how that guide installs anything to the bootloader/mbr
[11:24] <dr_willis> it was the first google hit i saw for googling for 'make windows boot usb linux'
[11:24] <scoopex> when i try to browse windows shares in unity/nautilus i get the message "Failed to retrieve share list from server" ....i have no idea whats wrong - there are many issues at launchpad but i haven't seen a sulution for this - any hints?
[11:24] <elx> dr_willis, actually i extrated the .iso file to the root of the external drive. also changed the flags in gparted to boot and changed the settings in BIOS but it did'nt boot
[11:24] <elx> extracted*
[11:24] <dr_willis> http://www.techlw.com/2012/05/create-bootable-windows-usb-in-ubuntu.html
[11:25] <denisc> knacker: This might be useful to get your ethernet connection working - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22663/how-to-bring-up-network-on-boot-up-when-networkmanager-is-uninstalled
[11:26] <dr_willis> elx:  last google hit im looking at -- http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[11:26] <verd> is there a way (short of complete re-install) to upgrade a 11.04 to something more recent? update-manager tells me there are no updates to install, and I understand that 11.04 is beyond end-of-life now
[11:27] <knacker> shows up in terminal
[11:27] <dr_willis> !11.04
[11:27] <dr_willis> if its EOL you can still upgrade it to a newre release. You may need to edit your sources.list however.
[11:28] <OerHeks> oh jakub is back again with his clones
[11:28] <dr_willis> !eol
[11:28] <elx> dr_willis, I'll be back with results now reading the links you sent. Thanks again
[11:29] <knacker> wtf...  this shitty old keybaord is fcking w/me.  I tried to say thx, heading right to that site.  and that only my loopback shows up in terminal
[11:30]  * videl_ waves
[11:30] <ikonia> knacker: stop the language please.
[11:30] <ikonia> knacker: it's uncalled for and unacceptable
[11:30] <knacker> great link denisc,  thanks for dealling with a noob
[11:30] <helpplease> I need some help. I have ubuntu 12.4 installed but it will no longer boot. I've tried reinstalling twice now.
[11:31] <videl_> Anyone knows how to make unity bar to show up only on system key>?
[11:31] <knacker> if the warning about language was for me, sorry and no more from me.  sorry
[11:31] <ikonia> knacker: no problem, thank you
[11:31] <verd> dr_willis: thanks
[11:32] <knacker> so that was directed at me?
[11:32] <ikonia> knacker: yes, that's why I said "knacker, please top with the language please"
[11:32] <knacker> not trying to be difficult, just wondering for future reference
[11:32] <knacker> oh, ... I see now
[11:32] <denisc> knacker: As long as your network card is recognised on boot, sounds like you'll be able to bring up eth0 (or eth1 depending on your hardware). You don't have to use the "vim" editor - a gui editor like gedit would be easier. Main thing is to change the interfaces file, then restart networking as described
[11:33] <ikonia> knacker: normally if someone says your name, it's directed at the person who's name is referenced
[11:33] <ikonia> there should be no need to touch the interfaces file, as the network cards are managed by network-manager
[11:34] <denisc> ikonia: I think knacker has accidentally removed the network-manager package though...
[11:34] <knacker> i didn't notice, only saw the language and guessed it was for me. I am sorry. just trying to get my problems fixed without offending any sensitive people.  no more potty mouth from me, promise
[11:34] <ikonia> then re-installing it is the solution
[11:34] <ikonia> not messing with the interface file
[11:34] <videl_> for everyone interested in just talking about topics unrelated to ubuntu, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <knacker> yup
[11:35] <ikonia> videl_: no-one is talking about non-ubuntu topics
[11:35] <helpplease> blaizco: I have tried to reinstall and it will not fix the problem. I  get an error message and a grub recovery command promt
[11:36] <denisc> ikonia: knacker is trying to connect to the net, so I'm trying to suggest ways to do that via the command line, given that network-manager has gone...
[11:36] <ikonia> ifconfig or "ip" will set an ip address
[11:36] <ikonia> again, there is no neet to mess with the interfaces file
[11:36] <knacker> and I am very thankful for the help denisc
[11:37] <denisc> knacker: no worries - best to follow the more experienced advice of ikonia here!
[11:37] <vrnithin> hi,
[11:37] <knacker> yes you are right, I accidentally removed the network manager when I removed a VPN package that I was not using.
[11:38] <ikonia> denisc: where you are going is fine, just keep in mind that putting entries in the interface file, can cause problems when network manager is restored
[11:38] <ikonia> so just doing a simple ifconfig and route add to get the interface up and restore network manager maybe easier (or not)
[11:38] <ikonia> or a dhclient eth0 to get a dhcp address
[11:39] <knacker> if that is the case I would say that I am not experienced enough to start messing with my interface files...   when I do an ifconfig I am only seeing my loopback
[11:39] <knacker> my other interfaces are gone
[11:40] <ikonia> knacker: sudo ifconfig -a do you only see "lo"
[11:40] <vrnithin> i was trying to install bumblebee on my ubuntu 12.04 on the last part i got an error  "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ precise/main libllvm3.1 amd64 3.1-1~precise1   Connection failed"
[11:40] <vrnithin> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/l/llvm-3.1/libllvm3.1_3.1-1~precise1_amd64.deb  Connection failed
[11:40] <ikonia> vrnithin: ok, so that package is not there
[11:40] <ikonia> vrnithin: you can check that by checking the link in a browser
[11:41] <vrnithin> ikonia, i downloaded that package by browser
[11:41] <knacker> oops, as root I can see them all now.  let me play around or do you have a better suggestion.  thank you for the help
[11:41] <ikonia> vrnithin: ........why ?
[11:41] <vrnithin> how can i use that .deb file with other fetched files to install bumblebee
[11:42] <ikonia> vrnithin: it's not something i'd recommend doing
[11:42] <ikonia> vrnithin: did you get the file from the same URL that's failing ?
[11:42] <B0R3D_W1Sd0m> is it possible to change the name of volume group
[11:42] <vrnithin> ikonia, yup
[11:42] <B0R3D_W1Sd0m> and not to break os
[11:43] <ikonia> vrnithin: ok, so if you do a "sudo apt-get update" does that repo sill error ?
[11:43] <vrnithin> ikonia, but when i tried after apt-get update.. still it showing same error
[11:44] <vrnithin> ikonia, only that package is remaining others out of 122 mb fetched
[11:44] <ikonia> vrnithin: sorry, when you do "sudo apt-get update" does that repo still error as part of that command
[11:44] <vrnithin> ikonia, nope its updating fine
[11:44] <knacker> showing all my interface when running ifconfig as root but giving me error msg when I tried to bring wlan0 up
[11:45] <ikonia> vrnithin: ok, so the repo is available, we need to look at why that package is unavailable to you
[11:45] <knacker> "not possible due to RF-kill" is what came up when I ran ifconfig wlan0 up
[11:45] <denisc> knacker: I'd stick with eth0 for the moment - wlan0 is your wireless interface - at least try ethernet first
[11:47] <knacker> lol,  ok heading down stairs to ethernet....   any linux gurus need an apartment or room?   trade for tech support:)
[11:47] <vrnithin> ikonia, will it work if i do this again "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates" ?
[11:47] <Cosaplopa> Hi
[11:48] <ikonia> vrnithin: you should have it already added if you're trying to install it
[11:49] <vrnithin> ikonia, yup i already added
[11:49] <ikonia> so re-adding it does seem a good move
[11:49] <vrnithin> ikonia, can i add this file manually to other fetched files ?
[11:50] <Cosaplopa> new to this , using Ubuntu 12.04 on a dell D630 centrino, everything works well, but the webcam, not detected apparently, anybody knows where and if the there is a driver for that ?
[11:50] <ikonia> vrnithin: you can using dpkg, but it's not something I'd recommend, you have a problem and I'd suggest resolving it
[11:50] <ikonia> !webcam | Cosaplopa
[11:50] <Taev> can anyone tell me why my webserver occasionally gives me Error 500permission denied errors on pages that are set 755 rw-r-r
[11:50] <Cosaplopa> thanks
[11:50] <Taev> after i reload a few times it works
[11:50] <vrnithin> ikonia, so what to do ?
[11:50] <Taev> it only happens occasionally which makes it all the more frustrating
[11:52] <knacker> was able to bring eth0 up but no connectivity? other suggestions.  thanks again all
[11:52] <ikonia> vrnithin: a good question I'm concerned that this file is erroring, yet the file is there
[11:52] <ikonia> knacker: how did you bring it up
[11:52] <ikonia> vrnithin: the package manager is core to your system, hence why I'd suggest fixing it before trying to install other things
[11:53] <knacker> ifconfig eth0 up...  as root
[11:53] <vrnithin> ikonia, how  to fix it ?
[11:53] <ikonia> knacker: that won't do anything
[11:53] <ikonia> knacker: you need it to have an ip address
[11:53] <knacker> i guessed that
[11:53] <ikonia> knacker: is this network a dhcp network ?
[11:54] <ikonia> vrnithin: a good question,
[11:54] <knacker> yes, it is dhcp
[11:54] <knacker> i am on it using an OLD laptop now
[11:54] <ikonia> knacker: so "sudo dhclient eth0" should hopefully get an ip address for your card
[11:54] <ole_oz6oh> Hello friends i lok for users off glade
[11:54] <ole_oz6oh> look
[11:55] <vrnithin> ikonia, is there any way to reset it and start again ?
[11:56] <ikonia> vrnithin: you could re-move the PPA and re-add it, however I don't see how that would resolve a connection being dropped
[11:56] <vrnithin> ikonia, is there any way to copy that manually to other files fetched ??
[11:57] <knacker> ikonia: just ran it, got no response or prompt for password, ran it again and got ...:file exists
[11:57] <ikonia> vrnithin: I've told you two times now "yes" use dpkg to install it, however I would strongly recommend against it
[11:57] <TVQ> Hey guys, when I turn on my computer, I can't find the login screen. All I see is a black screen and a mouse pointer. My computer is running Ubuntu 10.04LTS. Any suggestions?
[11:57] <ikonia> knacker: exactly what command did you run "exactly"
[11:58] <vrnithin> ikonia, k then what to do ?
[11:58] <ikonia> vrnithin: I'm going to stop talking to you now, as you just keep asking the same question over and over while I keep giving you information
[11:58] <knacker> ikonia: exactly " sudo dhclient eth0"
[11:59] <vrnithin> ikonia, sorry
[11:59] <ikonia> knacker: if you do "sudo ifconfig eth0" does your card now have an ip address
[11:59] <kaar> TVQ: If it has been in suspended mode on a laptop for example this is a bug. I have yet to resolve it myself.
[11:59] <knacker> yes
[11:59] <ikonia> knacker: ok, so you should be on the network now (hopefully)
[12:01] <denisc> knacker: great! now try pinging an internet address (I use "ping www.aarnet.edu.au") and if you get a response time and a series of "pings" you are ready for the next step which is "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[12:01] <TVQ> kaar, What I have to do right now? Should I reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:01] <knacker> ikonia:  don't know if I am 100% but I just pinged google and got good reply
[12:02] <denisc> knacker: that's a good sign - go for the "sudo apt-get install network-manager" step now
[12:02] <ikonia> knacker: sounds good
[12:02] <kaar> TVQ, Does it happen to you even if you reboot the computor?
[12:02] <TVQ> kaar, yes :(
[12:03] <knacker> Ikonia:  ok, will do that now...  watching you and you deserve some serious Karma points.  in a year of using Linux exclusively you're only the second person to help me
[12:03] <ikonia> knacker: don't give it a second thought, just glad you're working
[12:03] <kaar> TVQ, For me it happens only if i close the lid on my laptop with two many applications running and it boots up from suspended mode.
[12:05] <knacker> :)   think you two got me back in business!!  still no applet on panel but just installed NW-mng w/o problem!
[12:05] <ikonia> knacker: gnome-network-manager
[12:05] <TVQ> kaar, I tried to reboot my computer so many time, I also restarted the GDM. But it still stuck with this error.
[12:05] <kaar> TVQ, Maybe try to login to tty1 and clean your desktop configuration.
[12:05] <knacker> sorry denisc...third person;)
[12:06] <TVQ> kaar, Can you show me how to clean the configuration?
[12:06] <denisc> knacker: Good one - the other package I have is "network-manager-gnome" so that should get you going :)
[12:06] <knacker> ikonia:  do you mean also or I should have installed that.
[12:06] <ikonia> knacker: you should install that as denisc just highlighted
[12:07] <kaar> TVQ, gnome or Unity=
[12:07] <knacker> ok, i see now, you two are two fast and I'm on two computers right ow but I am much happier than earlier
[12:07] <TVQ> kaar, Gnome!
[12:08] <kaar> "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" will remove any gnome configuration
[12:08] <TVQ> kaar, Let's me see. Thank you!
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:12] <TVQ> kaar, still stuck in this trouble. Thank you anyway.
[12:12] <knacker> denisc & ikonia:   just restarted my machine and I see that little icon I missed so much...wireless is back!!  thanks a million.
[12:12] <ikonia> knacker: welcome
[12:13] <denisc> knacker: excellent
[12:14] <kaar> TVQ, guess you have tried "service gdm restart"
[12:14] <knacker> yes it is,  actually running better than before I messed things up.  hope I can repay the favor to someone in the future... and sorry bout the language.
[12:15] <ikonia> knacker: don't worry
[12:15] <Catbuntu> Hi
[12:15] <TVQ> kaar, I tried to restart gdm using this command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart". But It failed!
[12:15] <knacker> I'm not:)    just grateful
[12:16] <iceroot> TVQ: sudo service gdm restart
[12:17] <iceroot> TVQ: but if i am correct no ubuntu version (which is still supported) is using gdm. its using lightdm instead
[12:17] <Mary2012> ciao
[12:17] <Mary2012> !list
[12:18] <giusy> ciao
[12:18] <giusy> !list
[12:18] <TVQ> iceroot, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I've tried your command. But it failed!
[12:19] <iceroot> TVQ: i am not sure if 10.04 is already using upstart
[12:19] <knacker> ikonia:  oops,  misunderstood you...  I am sorry "bout the language"   take care to you both
[12:19] <iceroot> but imo it was introduced with 9.10
[12:19] <iceroot> TVQ: and it would be great to know what "failed" means
[12:20] <iceroot> !upstart
[12:21] <TVQ> I'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu, thank you for your help, iceroot, kaar !
[12:21] <iceroot> TVQ: what is your issue?
[12:23] <ahhughes> reading a few guides but there is nothing definitive.... I need to see a few (user level, i.e. me) environment variables... in what file can I set these?
[12:25] <ahhughes> see == set
[12:26]  * ahhughes is tired
[12:26] <dbrom> hello all
[12:27] <sideeffect> maybe a general question:  I am quite a noob in linux issues.  I installed ubuntu 12.10. i want change there a lot, too many things to ask here. change the appearance, add stuff to panels, install apropriatte graphic drivers, get compizcube to work. just customize ubuntu my way and so on. maybe therefore are tutorials. someone knows such tutorials?
[12:29] <dbrom> this is what im facing... I have four monitors hooked up to a kubuntu 12.10 system that i have a nvidia 580 Ti card . the thing is one monitor isnt working and the second on is black and the other two are clones of each other
[12:29] <sideeffect> because its very hard to do something on linux, because there is always something missing when I do something in the terminal. yum etc. etc. and then i dont know how to install such stuff
[12:30] <knacker> sideefthere is actfe great video track ame right nowne goin get thon compizcube tec on youtube by a very cute girl, I'll get the name and be right back but being somewhat new myself, I wouldn't worry about graffics but..
[12:30] <CookieM> sideeffect, imo 12.10 isn't quite stable, i recommend installing 12.04 lts (precise pangolin)
[12:30] <sideeffect> a tutorial would be very helpful
[12:31] <dbrom> CookieM: could that solve my issue also
[12:31] <sideeffect> i see. but either way i wouldl need a tutorial
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect.. sorry was away.  a tutorial for what may i ask..
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> i could probably locate one for you
[12:32] <CookieM> sideeffect, have you asked google/duckduckgo for that?
[12:32] <sideeffect> how to use ubuntu, ans install there graphic drivers
[12:32] <sideeffect> and which commands do what
[12:32] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect.. a graphics driver for ati or nvidia
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> sideeffect  ubuntu has apt-get, not yum
[12:32] <knacker> sideeffect:  got a bunch of grat ones coming for ya ... one min
[12:32] <l057c0d3r> and if you want to learn the terminal.. i got a great place to send you :-)
[12:32] <sideeffect> ati. i use a netbook, graphics on a amd cpu
[12:32] <l057c0d3r> and apt-get is amazing by the way
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> that is the best guide for ati on ubuntu bro :-)
[12:35] <sideeffect> thx ;-)
[12:35] <l057c0d3r> np
[12:35] <savio> hi
[12:35] <savio> all
[12:35] <sideeffect> and a side which say what commands do waht, like sudo "apt-get"
[12:36] <sideeffect> so far i figured out that sudo-apt get donwloads programm one needs
[12:36] <sideeffect> but there are a lot of more commands
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> sudo runs something with root privilages...
[12:36] <srhb>  sideeffect: Do you know about "man"?
[12:36] <knacker> sideeffects...  youtube  NixiePixel  will get you all you want and more
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> apt-get is the program that installs packages... also known as a package manager
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> man apt-get  for information on apt-get
[12:36] <srhb> sideeffect: It will bring up the manual page for any command. So man sudo will tell you about sudo, man apt-get will tell you about apt-get
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> man sudo for info on sudo
[12:36] <savio> !apt-get
[12:36] <DJones> !terminal | sideeffect This should give you a start on different commands in the terminal,
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> ext ext
[12:37] <sideeffect> with nixi-pixel i restored my grub so far XD
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> nixie pixel <3
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> and
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> http://linuxcommand.org/
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> learn the terminal sideeffect :-)
[12:37] <knacker> but I would learn some other topics before I worry bout graffics but I can see that you are already getting a lesson.  good luck, hope you get as good help as I got here this am
[12:37] <ioseph> Hi!:) I have a problem with my old macbook 2 1 on which I installed Ubuntu 12.04 couple of days ago, replacing os x. my mac has 512 M memory.  i'm suffering from brightness which I set to 5 in System Settings->Personal->Brightness and Lock  panel, but it always changes to 15 whenever I shut down and boot again. According to the information from web, I added 'echo > 5 /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness' and 'echo > 36 /sys/class/backlight/intel_b
[12:40] <knacker> most helpful terminal instruction for noobs I've found is the LTHW series... Leaning  XXX the hard way by Zed Shaw.  free HTML Command line crash course. its great
[12:40] <CookieM> sideeffect, http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[12:40] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect..  once you learn the ends and outs of linux...  you will fall in love with how much control over your system you actually have...
[12:41] <knacker> MonkeyDust:   :))
[12:41] <savio> knacker, give us link
[12:42] <sideeffect> i see that achieving that could be sooo helplful in pc-stuff, but its a very long and complicated way :D. and the problemm in school is, that one has always to fall back to windows, because work need to be done
[12:43] <Ben64> sideeffect: work can and is done on linux
[12:43] <thufir_> help.  ubuntu 11.10 works fine. for clean install of 12.10 I have no GUI. I'M stuck in rescue mode, no web browser.  how do I change boot mode to non-gui, console only please?  pardon, but urgent.
[12:43] <l057c0d3r> ill be honest i do all the work in my classes that require ms office in libree office
[12:43] <l057c0d3r> visual studio is the only software that i currently require windows for when it comes to school
[12:43] <sideeffect> that was always the problem, in last 5years i had installed linux severall times, but then i used windows again and again, and there was no much time left to play with linux.
[12:43] <sideeffect> thats true, but sometimes one hast to use some programms
[12:44] <Ben64> i haven't installed windows for 10 years
[12:44] <DJones> !text | thufir_ This should get you to a text mode instead of gui,
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> sideeffect  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows /// http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> install virtual box and put your windows in there :-)
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> thats what i did
[12:44] <thufir_> DJones: what I'm asking about is how to select like : 1,2,3 so that startx doesn't start. thank you for the previous reply.
[12:45] <l057c0d3r> that way i can always have my linux system up and can boot windows from inside linux to do what ever i may need windows for
[12:45] <sideeffect> i see, but I, which is not familiar with linux, has just to use, what he is capable of using. XD
[12:45] <thufir_> I think I want to set "boot mode" of either 3 or 5?
[12:45] <knacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFqj2hS_0iQ
[12:45] <sideeffect> but now i have a little more time
[12:45] <knacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJaTA25tpMg
[12:46] <sideeffect> and maybe, hoping, this time i will stay on linux
[12:46] <knacker> http://www.youtube.com/user/NixiePixel?feature=watch
[12:47] <sideeffect> i found also: http://www.youtube.com/user/NixiePixel?feature=watch
[12:47] <kaar> The more about linux you learn the more stuck you become
[12:47] <sideeffect> ähh
[12:47] <thufir_> what is the name of the setting so that the integer 1 to 5 is set for no gui, auto login, or gui login, etc? pardon, I'm stuck in rescue mode.
[12:47] <sideeffect> i found also: http://www.noobslab.com/
[12:47] <knacker> iypu and yup
[12:47] <Ben64> thufir_: I don't think it works like that anymore
[12:48] <thufir_> Ben64: ohhhh.  what was that called tho?  can you tell me the file that it was?  I have no browser to look it up.
[12:48] <Ben64> thufir_: it wasn't a file, it was "init"
[12:48] <Ben64> !runlevel | thufir_
[12:48] <thufir_> thank you
[12:49] <knacker> yay, she does great tutorials on graphics and even if you don't care much for GUI goodness like me she  is still fun to watch and creates some amazing desktops
[12:49] <thufir_> ok, how can I change upstart so that it doesn't try to load x?
[12:49] <Ben64> DJones already gave you the answer to how to start in text mode
[12:50] <dbrom> anyone combining video cards for larger desktop in kubuntu
[12:50] <thufir_> right, but I want to fix that permanently pls.
[12:50] <sideeffect> thx so far ppl. information will be usefull to me. have to get away from pc now, will be back later ^^
[12:50] <sideeffect> bye
[12:50] <thufir_> I have no scroll. can you pls tell me again?
[12:51] <thufir_> oh, I do have scrolling. nm.
[12:52] <thufir_> when I press shift that will bring me to grub?  then I append "text" to what exactly?  I have no web browser to get further details.
[12:53] <Ben64> thufir_: where it says something like "        linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-35-generic root=UUID=60136647-e73d-4cf9-99ed-eafc4976776a ro   quiet splash" add "text" to the end of the line
[12:54] <thufir_> ok. and grub will show that already, I don't have to type all that in?
[12:54] <Ben64> first you have to hit "e" to edit the menu option, then edit the line that looks like that
[12:55] <Sensei_Jer> I'm having problems with youtube videos - stop every few seconds
[12:55] <Sensei_Jer> ran both chromium and Firefox - same results
[12:55] <thufir_> thank you.  I'll go reboot now. before I do so, what should I install once I get to that point so that I have a gui. it's an older computer.  11.10 works fine, but 12.10 xubuntu just gives "cannot display"
[12:56] <thufir_> I installed from the minimal cd and selected 'xubuntu' but, apparently, it's too much for my graphics card (I assume).  11.10 works fine.
[12:57] <Ben64> thufir_: cannot display what
[12:57] <thufir_> the monitor says "cannot display"
[12:58] <thufir_> it's not a message from the OS.
[12:58] <Ben64> it's probably just trying to display in the wrong resolution then
[12:58] <thufir_> aha, that would make sense. can you suggest a change to make before rebooting?
[12:58] <Ben64> what graphics card?
[12:59] <thufir_> I don't know. it's builtin.  I have to quit irc to find out as I'm in rescue mode.  it's an older pc.
[12:59] <Ben64> why would you have to quit for that
[13:00] <thufir_> because I only have one terminal. how can I get to the terminal without quitting?
[13:00] <Ben64> try this....
[13:00] <Ben64> /exec -o lspci | grep VGA
[13:00] <Kircle> I've installed the 3.6 kernel but there hasn't been an entry created in the grub boot menu. How do I create an entry for it?
[13:00] <Ben64> Kircle: which version of ubuntu, and how did you install it
[13:01] <thufir_> Ben64: can I do that without quitting irc?  put finch into the background?
[13:01] <Ben64> thufir_: you should be able to run that command right from irc
[13:02] <Ben64> although I'm not sure about your client
[13:02] <zoogoo> hello
[13:02] <Kircle> Ben64 I installed the debian files from kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 and are using grub customiser
[13:02] <thufir_> Ben64: iter's finch.  it says "no such command".
[13:02] <Ben64> thufir_: no such command as /exec?
[13:03] <Ben64> Kircle: that doesn't sound very supported
[13:03] <thufir_> finch, the text version of pidgin, says "no such command"
[13:04] <Ben64> thufir_: can you switch to a different console? CTRL+ALT+F2 for example
[13:04] <thufir_> no, I cannot switch to another console. there's only the one console in this version of rescue mode.
[13:04] <zoogoo> clear
[13:05] <thufir_> I'll just reboot, back in a bit, hopefuly with multiple console's.  anything else before I go?
[13:05] <Ben64> thufir_: well then I guess reboot, would be easier with a normal mode
[13:05] <thufir_> thank you for the help.
[13:07] <a216vcti> Hello everyone. How would I remove a third party software package?  I installed oracle java from PPA and wanted to remove it.
[13:07] <Ben64> same way as any other package
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge | a216vcti
[13:12] <heaven_yang> hello
[13:14] <_thufir> hola!  thanks for the help, I was no able to login text mode for clean install of ubuntu 12.10.  I'm getting hardware info and need to, probably change the resulution so that xubuntu desktop, installed from the minimal cd, will display correctly on my older pc.
[13:15] <Heart^Killer> hi anyone here
[13:15] <knacker> HKillera few :)
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Heart^Killer: yes
[13:16] <a216vcti> ubottu: Thanks for the help I tried the instructions listed in the link you provided and ran the following command;
[13:16] <a216vcti> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:THE_PPA
[13:16] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <a216vcti> oh.
[13:16] <a216vcti> crap.
[13:17] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:17] <Heart^Killer> hi
[13:17] <_thufir> my hardware is as so:  paste.ubuntu.com/1475512  via pastebinit, so I assum it's there.  I need help pls to change monitor resolution (down) so that I can boot xubuntu desktop.
[13:17] <Heart^Killer> anyoone here
[13:17] <_thufir> Ben64: paste.ubuntu.com/1475512
[13:18] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:18] <usr13> _thufir: Should auto-detect.  Just boot to it and see.
[13:18] <alexit> hello
[13:19] <cfhowlett> alexit: greetings
[13:19] <_thufir> usr13: the monitor says "cannot display"  so I'm now in text mode.
[13:19] <alexit> cfhowlett: hi
[13:19] <Ben64> usr13: his monitor wasn't displaying it, seemed to be going out of range
[13:19] <knacker> alexit: have you looked at the accessibility settings.  trying to think where it is.  I'll take a look and get back
[13:19] <alexit> cfhowlett: could you help me
[13:19] <Ben64> usr13: i'm not big into xrandr, not sure if you are
[13:19] <alexit> knacker: accessibility settings ?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> alexit: not my area of expertise.  sorry.
[13:20] <thekinn> #29c3
[13:20] <usr13> _thufir: xorgsetup
[13:20] <usr13> _thufir: sudo xorgsetup
[13:20] <_thufir> usr13: thank you, I'll look into that.  any pointers?  I have no browser, of course.
[13:20] <knacker> let me see if that is where it is, let u know.
[13:20] <_thufir> or, no gui browser I should say.
[13:21] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:22] <usr13> _thufir: xorgsetup   (it's a command line interface)
[13:23] <knacker> alexit:  i'm looking around, just had to do this but forgot where the setting is.  I'll find it for ya
[13:23] <_thufir> usr13: command not found when run as user or sudo.  hmm.
[13:23] <usr13> _thufir: lspci |pastebinit #send resulting URL.
[13:23] <alexit> knacker: ?
[13:23] <knacker> ya?
[13:24] <_thufir> usr13: I did.  can you scroll up?  I can do it again, takes a few minutes.
[13:24] <usr13> _thufir: jockey-text -l
[13:25] <Heart^Killer> i have used this command chown -hR samguy / samguy on my ubuntu server with root priviliges under / and this has caused server to write all wrong permissions to all the folder how can i fix the server back to its default state? please
[13:25] <_thufir> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/1475540    pardon, what's jockey-text? sounds interesting.
[13:25] <usr13> _thufir: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[13:27] <_thufir> usr13: ok. done.  but don't you mean cp?
[13:27] <usr13> _thufir: NO, mv
[13:27] <usr13> _thufir: Are you in tty7?
[13:28] <krz> does ubuntu support Intel PRO Wireless Advanced-N 6230 wireless module?
[13:28] <gurjeet> whois bobweaver
[13:29] <_thufir> usr13: actually, wait, didn't back that up.  I don't know whether I'm in tty7, I know I'm in console only.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475545
[13:29] <krz> anyone?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> krz  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:29] <usr13> _thufir: Did you boot to console mode on purpose?
[13:30] <zuzi> my ubuntu freezes any dea please?
[13:30] <_thufir> usr13: of course. the monitor was saying "cannot display"
[13:30] <usr13> _thufir: What kind of monitor is it?
[13:30] <knacker> alexit: sorry, thought I knew right where it was as I just dealt with that but moved a few things around since.  I'll keep looking around for you.
[13:30] <_thufir> an old benq 15 LCD.  bought used.
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> krz  maybe you can add your wireless card to that list
[13:31] <_thufir> usr13: ubuntu 11.10 works fine. 12.10 gives "cannot display" for xubuntu desktop. ergo, it's a setting of some sort.  resolution?
[13:31] <usr13> _thufir: Reboot  and see if it works now.
[13:31] <krz> MonkeyDust: i haven't got my laptop yet. but when i do. i want to install ubunu on i
[13:31] <krz> it*
[13:31] <_thufir> usr13: why would it work now?  I haven't changed anything.
[13:32] <usr13> _thufir: What was the result of sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  ?
[13:32] <krz> MonkeyDust: its not on that list. does that mean it won't work?
[13:32] <usr13> _thufir:  ... any error?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> krz  i do'nt use wireless myself, i guess the best way to find out, is by trying
[13:33] <_thufir> usr13: I did a pastie, to you, I don't see that file.
[13:33] <winx> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> krz  but i see no reason why it wouldnt work
[13:34] <_thufir> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/1475555     no such file.
[13:34] <krz> MonkeyDust: i see no reason anywhere that it should work as well
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> krz  then the only way is by trying if it works
[13:35] <usr13> _thufir: What is that?:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475555/
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> krz  start with a live cd or usb
[13:35] <winx> what do guys?
[13:36] <krz> http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/sb/cs-006408.htm says it does. so i think thats good news
[13:36] <winx> I want to install grub to mbr but there's arleady windows bootmgr, wat do?
[13:36] <_thufir> usr13: it should show contents of X11, that there's no file which you say to move.
[13:36] <usr13> _thufir: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Tell us what that says.
[13:37] <Heart^Killer> i have used this command chown -hR samguy / samguy on my ubuntu server with root priviliges under / and this has caused server to write all wrong permissions to all the folder how can i fix the server back to its default state? please
[13:37] <gurjeet> I am having trouble with BCM4331 wireless on MacBook Pro 9,1 model. It keeps disconnecting every few seconds.
[13:37] <knacker> alexit:  your keyboard settings are under... system settings --> Input Devices --->keyboard ---> advanced.  that should get you there.  there is a help menu on the page that is very thorough
[13:37] <_thufir> usr13: pastebinit says "you are trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[13:38] <usr13> _thufir: Ok.
[13:38] <dbrom> howdo i run two card with two monitors on each card with kubuntu 12.10
[13:38] <usr13> _thufir: What are you using for a cable?  VGA or _________?
[13:39] <_thufir> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475568   I installed from minimal cd, selected "xubuntu desktop".  now, 11.10 worked fine, so it must be a setting. I just installed a little bit ago.
[13:39] <gurjeet> ^^ Can someone help me figure out what's the problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 + Broadcom 4331?
[13:39] <_thufir> usr13: the monitor works fine from ubuntu 11.10. ergo, the monitor and cable is fine.
[13:39] <gurjeet> I even tried installing kernel version 3.4 and that didn't help at all.
[13:39] <_thufir> usr13: just a few hours ago.  11.10 worked fine.
[13:39] <usr13> _thufir: Are you in tty7 ?
[13:40] <_thufir> usr13: text only.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> krz  if you adapter turns out to work, you should inform the channel, so the hardware list can be updated
[13:40] <krz> will do
[13:40] <mats> hello
[13:40] <krz> should i install 64 or 32 bit?
[13:41] <usr13> _thufir: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:41] <mats> i have an old sd reader on my computer running ubuntu i386 12.04 and i can read the card in terminal, but on the gui the card is empty. PLEASE HELP!!!!
[13:41] <_thufir> usr13: ok, one min pls. thx
[13:42] <_thufir> usr13: empty document, won't pastebinit
[13:42] <mats> when i try to move the files in terminal i get an input/output error and the files are locked and i can't read, i am in ROOT when i try this????
[13:42] <cfhowlett> krz: if your setup can run 64, install 64.
[13:43] <_thufir> usr13: reading the wiki on lynx.  LOL.
[13:43] <bekks> mats: provide the entire output you get please, in a pastebin.
[13:43] <winx> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting. What can I do?
[13:43] <_thufir> there's a screen resolution tool?
[13:43] <bekks> !paste | mats
[13:44] <mats> mv: reading `/media/disk_/DCIM/home/DSCF8720.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <mats> mv: failed to extend `/media/home/DSCF8720.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <mats> mv: reading `/media/disk_/DCIM/home/DSCF8721.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <mats> mv: failed to extend `/media/home/DSCF8721.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <bekks> !paste | mats
[13:44] <_thufir> trying to use xrandr to set screen resolution
[13:44] <tdn> Can I install Ubuntu Server on a USB pendrive so that I can use it on a computer with no hard drive?
[13:44] <usr13> _thufir: lightdm
[13:44] <bekks> mats: This channel is not a pastebin. Use a pastebin. And provide the command you are using too, please.
[13:44] <bekks> tdn: Yes.
[13:45] <usr13> _thufir: You can't.  YOu have booted to console mode.
[13:45] <mats> dammit dont have time,
[13:45] <mats> gtg
[13:45] <_thufir> usr13: thanks, xrandr yeah, won't open. thx.
[13:45] <tdn> bekks, how?
[13:45] <bekks> mats: Good luck then.
[13:45] <usr13> _thufir: lightdm
[13:45] <mats> yea, its only a few lines, dont need pastebin never had before
[13:45] <bekks> tdn: By just installing Ubuntu on your pendrive.
[13:45] <usr13> _thufir: Tell us what is the output of command lightdm
[13:45] <Surkow|laptop> hi guys, I installed 12.10 on a number of computers with nvidia hardware. Manually installing the kernel headers before installing the nvidia drivers solved my driver hassels. But now gnome-session-fallback has issues. It no longer loads a window manager.
[13:45] <mats> dont be a jackass
[13:45] <winx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475585/
[13:45] <tdn> bekks, just leave it in while installing from the normal installer?
[13:46] <bekks> mats: It was just spamming this channel, which ic pretty unfriendly.
[13:46] <Surkow|laptop> *hassles
[13:46] <tdn> bekks, how do I know which of the USB drives is the installer and which one is the empty?
[13:46] <mats> you seem pretty unfriendly, thanks for nothing
[13:46] <Surkow|laptop> compiz --replace doesn't work either.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> tdn  server is not a live iso, it's an installer, so i guess you need to make a persistent installation on the usb stick
[13:46] <bekks> mats: Yes, good luck then, and a happy new year.
[13:47] <tdn> MonkeyDust, yeah, can I do that directly from the normal ubuntu server installer?
[13:47] <tdn> MonkeyDust, and just use the usb drive as target?
[13:47] <neberu> neberu is here mike
[13:47] <bekks> tdn: You'd better use the live cd as installation source, not the server cd.
[13:48] <chaospsychex> hi
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> !usb | tdn
[13:48] <chaospsychex> I have integrated intel video chipset. xrandr is not reporting the supported display modes for my monitor/gpu
[13:48] <cm1nus> softwr
[13:49] <chaospsychex> I can only use 1024x700 when I should be able to use 1280x1024
[13:49] <cm1nus> wicked bt modules d
[13:49] <chaospsychex> as that's the highest resolution my monitor supports
[13:49] <cm1nus> d=u or else
[13:49] <chaospsychex> Ben64: are you here?
[13:50] <Surkow|laptop> so, anyone experience with gnome-session-fallback? I can't get compiz to run.
[13:50] <Ben64> chaospsychex: for the next minute or something
[13:50] <wdp> could it be, that ubuntu shows only a blackscreen on installation due to a too old ati graphic card?
[13:50] <chaospsychex> Ben64: what was that CMD you wanted me to run last night ? lspci -?
[13:50] <krz> cfhowlett: how do i verify if it can run 64?
[13:50] <Surkow|laptop> it worked prior to installing the nvidia drivers, the nvidia drivers work fine with unity.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> krz wait one ...
[13:51] <bekks> krz: By taking a look at cat /proc/cpuinfo and investigating wether your CPU modell supports 64bit, on the manfucaturers site.
[13:51] <Ben64> Dec 28 2012 20:09:05 <Ben64>	chaospsychex: could you pastebin the output of "lsmod; lspci"
[13:53] <chaospsychex> Ben64: http://pastie.org/5592988 <- lsmod
[13:54] <Ben64> chaospsychex: you might want to direct your questions toward the whole channel, I've got to get to sleep now
[13:54] <sevenforall> Every now and then, my computer fails to complete the DNS lookup, going offline. However, this issue only seems to occur within Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[13:54] <Ben64> chaospsychex: good luck
[13:54] <chaospsychex> Ben64: ok
[13:54] <bekks> sevenforall: Check your DNS settings then.
[13:54] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: I think the problem is with gnome
[13:55] <chaospsychex> Could someone help me with getting xrandr to detect the max supported resolution of my monitor, which is 1280x1024 ?
[13:55] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, I tried just about any nvidia driver combination. I can't get any window manager to work, while it works with nouveau
[13:55] <sevenforall> bekks: Well, it doesn't matter wether I use the automatic settings or configure it to use Google's DNS servers, it will just fail after a while
[13:56] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, when starting compiz in the terminal, there are no errors either. It seems to work fine.
[13:56] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #Let's have a look
[13:56] <bekks> sevenforall: "it will fail" means what exactly? Are the settings unset, do they disappear from /etc/resolv.conf - or what happens?
[13:57] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: You say that you've tried "just about any nvidia driver combination".  There is only one that will work.
[13:57] <sevenforall> bekks: I have no idea what exactly happens. It simply will lose the DNS, everything remains configured. Chrome will give the feedback that the look-up failed, Pidgin will just lose all the accounts except for GTalk (that apparently uses the DNS only once, or something)
[13:58] <sevenforall> It fails to make any new connections because of it
[13:58] <bekks> sevenforall: Then please check your settings in /etc/resolv.conf and in the NetworkManager.
[13:59] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, http://pastebin.com/YDKNyGrS
[14:00] <thufir_> hi.  woe is me.  I cannot seem to run even lightdm(?), everything seems to result in the monitor saying that cannot display this video mode.  However, ubuntu 11.10 works fine.  just 12.10 gives this error.
[14:00] <chaospsychex> can someone help me get xrandr to correctly detect my monitor's EDID data ?
[14:00] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, ubuntu offers nvidia current, current updates, experimental and nouveau
[14:01] <thufir_> usr13: I just got that the monitor couldn't display that video mode, had to reboot.
[14:01] <Surkow|laptop> I tried them all except for the experimental version.
[14:01] <joey8> .
[14:01] <usr13> ShapeShifter499: This is a laptop?  Right? What is the make and model?
[14:03] <usr13> thufir_: Did you boot normal or text mode?
[14:03] <thufir_> why, when I re-installed 11.10 earlier this evening, did the GUI work fine? but, then I re-re-installed 12.10 and cannot get any form of x windows.
[14:04] <thufir_> usr13: I was in text mode and ran ?lightdm? with sudo, and got "cannot display this video mode"
[14:04] <thufir_> usr13: rebooted to text mode again.
[14:04] <krz> anyone know if ubuntu supports the nvidia gtx 680m video cards without any problems?
[14:04] <usr13> thufir_: Boot normal mode and go to tty6  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[14:04] <bekks> !hcl | krz
[14:05] <thufir_> usr13: when do I press ctrl-alt-F6?
[14:05] <chaospsychex> can someone help me add a --newmode to xrandr ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> chaospsychex, check your package manager to be sure xserver-xorg-video-intel driver is installed
[14:05] <chaospsychex> BluesKaj: ok
[14:05] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: It says "Display (Samsung SyncMaster (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA"
[14:05] <thufir_> LOL. usr13 is busy tonight :)
[14:06] <thufir_> where is user14, I say.
[14:06] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Looks like you will need to use the open-source driver.  Again, what is your hardware?
[14:07] <usr13> thufir_: After it boots up.
[14:07] <krz> bekks: a bit outdates
[14:07] <krz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[14:08] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, a 9600gt. The hardware is supported and working properly. The reason why it states that it doesn't support it, is because I didn't install the kernel header sources.
[14:08] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Oh.  Well, why not?
[14:08] <Surkow|laptop> after removing the nvidia drivers and reinstalling the kernel headers the nvidia drivers were able to compile a kernel module
[14:09] <Surkow|laptop> prior to this, they were not able to do that
[14:09] <bekks> krz: Then you have to look up the version of the nvidia drivers you are going to use on packages.ubuntu.com and take a look at the official readme of nvidia for that particular version to see wether it supports your card or not.
[14:09] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: very good.
[14:09] <krz> bekks: that just blew me away
[14:09] <krz> im lost
[14:10] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, unity (with compositing) works without glitches and is fast. Hardware acceleration with VDPAU works as well. The issue remains that gnome fallback session doesn't want to load compiz. Perhaps I should try metacity.
[14:11] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Yea, sounds like it is a problem with ghome or compiz.
[14:11] <krz> bekks: couldn't you have just said to google it: https://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia%20680m%20ubuntu
[14:11] <Surkow|laptop> sadly enough I encountered nvidia driver issues on all computers I have. Ubuntu 12.10 seems to be missing kernel header sources. This means anyone with an nvidia card cannot use the proprietary drivers
[14:11] <bekks> krz: Saying to just google is pretty unhelpful, pointing to the places where to get which information is much more helpful.
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Surkow|laptop  yeah, Linus already gave nvidia 'the finger' for that
[14:11] <Surkow|laptop> at every kernel upgrade I will have to manually install new kernel headers
[14:11] <Surkow|laptop> sigh
[14:12] <chaospsychex> i installed the xorg-xserver-video-intel and still no success. 1280x1024 is not showing up
[14:12] <BluesKaj> chaospsychex, did you reboot ?
[14:12] <krz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/147576/cant-install-gtx-680-drivers-on-12-04 seems useful
[14:12] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Yep looks like you are right:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[14:12] <chaospsychex> BluesKaj: yes
[14:12] <bekks> Surkow|laptop: Which is not true for me. Having two computers with nvidia, I literally NEVER experienced any problems until now.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> chaospsychex, you could try the xswat ppa driver , scroll halfway to find the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/200995/is-it-possible-to-update-my-graphic-card-drivers
[14:15] <usr13> chaospsychex: Are you the one I was talking to earlier?  (thufir_)
[14:15] <thufir_> usr13: when I rebooted, as before, I get a brief view of "xubuntu" then it flashes between that and "cannot display this video mode".
[14:15] <chaospsychex> usr13: i don't think so
[14:16] <usr13> chaospsychex: Ok yea.
[14:16]  * thufir_ is patient, as usr13 seems the only guru available.  no worries.
[14:16] <usr13> !nomodeset |thufir
[14:17] <usr13> thufir_: I don't know if that's it or not, just guessing here....
[14:17] <thufir_> usr13: I'll check out the man page, easier to read.
[14:17] <Surkow|laptop> bekks, I never experienced issues before 12.10. I manage computers for my family and suddenly only nouveau worked. It seems like a packaging issue in ubuntu.
[14:17] <usr13> thufir_: service lightdm status   #what does that say?
[14:17] <thufir_> usr13: good to know. thanks for the disclusure.
[14:18] <usr13> thufir_: service lightdm status   #Tell us what does that says.
[14:19] <thufir_> usr13: lightdm stop/waiting.  last time it did the same as graphical boot.
[14:19] <usr13> thufir_: Did you boot to text mode again?
[14:19] <thufir_> usr13: yes, as that's my only option at the moment.
[14:20] <thufir_> I can't find a man page about nomodeset
[14:20] <usr13> thufir_: Why didn't you do as I asked?
[14:20] <usr13> thufir_: There is no manpage for nomodeset
[14:20] <lolkuro> What's the latest release of Ubuntu like? I've been an on-again-off-again user.
[14:20] <thufir_> usr13: I tried the graphical boot, but it just flasheed between "xubuntu" and "cannot display...". pardon?
[14:20] <usr13> thufir_: Or did you?  Did you go to tty6 and read the log file?
[14:21] <Joe1> Does anyone have any idea what the file "/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/arp_ignore" does?
[14:21] <thufir_> which log file?
[14:21] <usr13> thufir_: I told you to do Ctrl-Alt-F6  and look at the logfile.
[14:21] <bekks> Joe1: It tells you wether eth0 accepts ARP requests for IPv4
[14:21] <usr13> thufir_: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:21] <thufir_> hmm.  when do I press ctrl-alt-f6?
[14:21] <bekks> Joe1: Just use cat on it.
[14:21] <usr13> thufir_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:22] <usr13> thufir_: After it gets done booting.
[14:22] <kaar> Is there a way unzip a zip file with installing unzip. I meen by using gzip or any other tool
[14:22] <lolkuro> Guys?
[14:22] <Joe1> bekks: thanks! I see a '1' in it. Does that mean that arp is disabled on eth0?
[14:22] <thufir_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/147563   hey, log isn't empty now!  progress :)
[14:23] <usr13> thufir_: ONce it's all booted up, do Ctrl-Alt-F6  and login.
[14:23] <thufir_> ok, before rebooting, would you look at the log pls?
[14:23] <lolkuro> What's ubuntu 12 like? Has anything sped up since Ubuntu 9 [last time i used linux]
[14:23] <bekks> Joe1: I'd have to look it up in the kernel documentation, I dont know it off hand.
[14:23] <cfhowlett> lolkuro: off-topic as this is the support channel.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> kaar, try unp
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !ot|lolkuro
[14:24] <usr13> thufir_: That'
[14:24] <lolkuro> Oh. sorry.. sheesh, don't go batshit on me
[14:24] <usr13> thufir_: That's not the log file.
[14:24] <Surkow|laptop> lolkuro, it's just a high volume channel. I frequently get warnings about using enter as punctuation. Don't take it personally ;)
[14:24] <thufir_> usr13: oh?  err. Xorg.0.log yes?
[14:25] <usr13> thufir_: How are you talking to us now?  On another computer or....?
[14:25] <thufir_> usr13: only the one computer. so I'm in text still.  will reboot in a moment, just wanted your feedback on that log, but you say it's not the correct log..?
[14:26] <Joe1> bekks: cool, found it online. thanks!
[14:27] <usr13> thufir_: Reboot, and you will have 6 ttys to use,  First go to tty6 and then you can go to the one next door, (tty5) by holding Atl and hitting left-arrow  You can bring up irssi on one console if need be.
[14:27] <bekks> Joe1: You're welcome. :)
[14:27] <thufir_> usr13: irssi?
[14:27] <kaar> BluesKaj: Dident have that one installed eather. Cant install as my user im loged in to is not sudo. will have to ssh with another user and install unzip
[14:27] <usr13> thufir_: What irc client are you using now?
[14:28] <thufir_> finch.  it's text version of pidgin.  I see, irssi is an IRC client?
[14:28] <usr13> thufir_: Ok, that's ok.
[14:28] <usr13> just use it.
[14:28] <thufir_> usr13: ok, rebooting again. thx.  pardon misunderstanding.  I thought it was hooped, but you say it will give me tty's, so I'll do that. bye.
[14:28] <kaar> thufir_: use irssi with screen
[14:28] <usr13> thufir_: But you need to run the Xserver so we can see what is going on.
[14:29] <usr13> kaar: Good, yes.
[14:30] <Ronalds_M> Hi, ubuntu folks :>
[14:30] <kaar> hi :) Ronalds_M
[14:31] <Ronalds_M> anybody knows how to change default keyboard keys for ctrl-alt-delete, cause right not it logouts to shell
[14:31] <Ronalds_M> I tried keyboard shortcuts in settings
[14:32] <Ronalds_M> but disabling didn't work out
[14:32] <usr13> Ronalds_M: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and then Ctrl-Alt-Delete
[14:33] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: why do you want to change it, i can't recall the last time i ever needed to use it
[14:33] <Ronalds_M> sorry, ctrl alt f4
[14:33] <Ronalds_M> when I press it, it goes in shell
[14:33] <usr13> Ronalds_M: Then do,  Ctrl-Alt-Delete   to reboot
[14:33] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: of course it does, thats the tty
[14:34] <Ronalds_M> can I disable this?
[14:34] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: why?
[14:34] <usr13> Ronalds_M: What is your end goal?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Ronalds_M, that's what ctrl+alt+F4 is supposed to do..a shell/TTY
[14:34] <Ronalds_M> ok
[14:34] <usr13> Ronalds_M: Ctrl-Alt-F6 goes to tty6  Ctrl-Alt-F5 goes to tty5  etc. etc.
[14:35] <thufir_> usr13: ok, long story. there are two hard drives, two linux installs.  I'm on 11.10 linux, works fine.  booted into it by accident.  12.10 is on the other hard drive.  (this hdd will get formatted once I get 12.10 working properly.)    while I'm a working GUI and so forth, anything I should do?
[14:35] <thufir_> at least I can sync my firefox settings while I'm here, which I forgot to do earlier.
[14:36] <usr13> thufir_: Yea, boot the other HD, go to tty6 use screen and open irssi, look at log file, etc...  Let's see what is going ot.
[14:36] <usr13> *on
[14:36] <thufir_> usr13: ok.  few minutes while I futz with firefox pls. thanks for help.
[14:37] <usr13> thufir_: Ok
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> how to disable showing mounted hard drives
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> on 12.04 I could do that with ubuntu tweak
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> maybe in compiz?
[14:37] <kelvinella> hi i am running ubuntu 10.10, should i upgrade it to 12.04 or clean install to 12.04?
[14:37] <usr13> Ronalds_M: On the desktop?
[14:37] <verd> dr_willis: are you still around? I have one more question: I have the 11.04 installation mentioned earlier now updated to a sort-of-working 11.10. should the update-manager now offer a "regular" update to 12.04?
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> on unity sidebar
[14:37] <ThinkT510> kelvinella: clean install
[14:37] <kelvinella> and can i upgrade it thru the 12.04 iso usb stick?
[14:38] <k1l_> kelvinella: clean install will be faster
[14:38] <bekks> kelvinella: You have to upgrade to 11.04 then to 11.10 and then to 12.04
[14:38] <bekks> kelvinella: A direct update is not possible.
[14:38] <thufir_> usr13: ok, rebooting
[14:38] <thiebaude> kelvinella, i usally do a clean install
[14:38] <kelvinella> ok
[14:38] <thiebaude> :)
[14:38] <k1l_> kelvinella: no, there is no direct upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04  you need to do every single upgrade inbetween
[14:38] <usr13> kelvinella: If you have /home on separate partition, yea, just do clean install and leave the /home/ parition alone, use same user name.  If not, backup /home/ files
[14:38] <TheBase> Hello
[14:38] <kelvinella> so i have to reinstall virtualbox, etc..... :(
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  fresh install is faster, cleaner and easier, don't forget to backup first, if you don't have a separate /home partition
[14:39] <k1l_> kelvinella: next time you want to not_upgrade for a long time better start with a LTS version
[14:39] <thiebaude> k1l_, thats what i do, lts
[14:39] <usr13> kelvinella: Yea, when you install 12.04, you will be on LTS.
[14:39] <thiebaude> upgrade every 5 yrs
[14:39] <kelvinella> i didnt update so long coz the unity
[14:40] <kelvinella> i thought i wait for it to mature then i can upgrade but i was wrong
[14:40] <ThinkT510> kelvinella: you can use other desktop environments
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  workaround: create a manual list of the programs you want to install, then, after upgrade, type sudo apt-get install [that list]
[14:41] <usr13> kelvinella: You CAN upgrade but you have to do it incrementally
[14:42] <usr13> kelvinella: But it is much easier to cut to the chase and just install 12.04.
[14:42] <usr13> kelvinella:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:43] <vladimir_> hi guys ... digital piano(keyboard) software... any advice please?
[14:43] <vladimir_> usb piano
[14:43] <Ronalds_M> I don't understand that webapps integration thingy
[14:43] <Ronalds_M> it's just bookmark shortcuts in panel?
[14:44] <thufir_> usr13: ok, tried that.  ctrl-alt-f6 would flash text, but then back to "cannot display.." so I rebooted to ubuntu 12.04 on the other hard drive.  GUI works fine from here.  gotta be a setting.
[14:45] <usr13> thufir_: Did you try F5 or F4?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> Ronalds_M  if at first, you don't understand it, skip it and get used to other parts of the system
[14:47] <Squall5668> Quick question: nework manager stores connections in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections but where does it store the part that sets a connection to "auto connect"? (yes, wireless autoconnection problems after 12.10 upgrade)
[14:47] <thufir_> usr13: I tried them all
[14:47] <usr13> thufir_: Let me ask you this;  At what point does the display quit working, (during the boot process -- what does it say).
[14:48] <elx> guys im trying to shrink one of the partitions of my hdd but it gives me error
[14:48] <elx> I unmounted it
[14:48] <elx> the partition
[14:49] <thufir_> usr13: ok, it boots (I wrote splash noisy in grub), and I see "ubuntu ..." at some point. then I see "xubuntu" and it looks good. then, suddenly, it oscilates between xubuntu splash or loading screen and "cannot display" until resolves to "cannot display".
[14:49] <elx> i also switched the swap partition
[14:50] <Sven_vB> can someone estimate how long an AMD Athlon II CPU can run at 127 deg C (260 deg F) before it would affect desktop programs?
[14:51] <elx> does anybody have any idea or is there somewhere else that i should be asking these kinda questions?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !details | elx
[14:51] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, or before the system self-immolates
[14:51] <thufir_> usr13: make sense?
[14:52] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, 127C is very hot for that CPU, i think your system will fry if left at that level.
[14:52] <thiebaude> ^^
[14:52] <KeyboardNotFound> i has turn off my computer direct from outlet, and after again turn on i have some problems, my computer is scanned and i don't know what other, but i has cancel my scanning in boot mode, can i scan computer for errors in normal mode ?
[14:52] <thufir_> usr13: I can give output for **working** x settings from the **good** 12.04 install. will that help?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> elx, what app /dev/system are you using to edit your partitions?
[14:52] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, and it'll fry or shut itself off long before your graphical applications start to not work.,
[14:52] <elx> ubottu, im using ubuntu 11.10, i have 2 partitions on the main one i have ubuntu installed and on the seconde one i have my extra data
[14:52] <elx> i want to shrink the second partition so i can make a new partition and install windows 8 on it
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> elx  11.10 is too old, it's called !eol
[14:53] <elx> BluesKaj, I m using Gparted
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> elx  11.10 is no longer in use or supported
[14:53] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, i thougt the same, but it's running at that for over 4 weeks now (with short pauses - when i reboot it, reported temperature gets about 30 deg C for about 10 min, before jumping back to 127 deg C in less than 1 sec).
[14:53] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, thatr
[14:53] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, that's why i'm asking for an estimate time ;)
[14:54] <KeyboardNotFound> !gparted | elx
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, i'd set a processing speed cap then.
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, i'd cap your processor at half speed for both cores then, it should reduce your temp.  as for estimated time of running, that's not able to be directly estimated.
[14:54] <KeyboardNotFound> elx i think gparted can help you
[14:54] <elx> ubottu, i already have it installed and im using it to shrink one of the partitions
[14:55] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, my advice though: cap your processor speeds at half for all cores, and figure out whether your cooling solution is actually working, i think your fan isn't working or  your heat sink is dust clogged or something.
[14:55] <elx> but it fails when i shrink the partition
[14:55] <TheLordOfTime> 127C isn't normal for that CPU, unless you're driving the graphics to insanity.
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> elx  ubottu is a (ro)bot
[14:55] <TheLordOfTime> s/graphics/processor/
[14:55] <BluesKaj> elx , i think the gparted live cd would be a better method
[14:56] <elx> MonkeyDust, yes just realized lol...
[14:56] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, i'd expect your system to self-immolate pretty soon, either the CPU will burn or something else will be fried or melted.  best to take cutback actions on the thing now and prep to replace either the cooling solution, the processor, or both.
[14:56] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, mutter --replace gave me my window manager controls back
[14:56] <Surkow|laptop> but compiz still refuses to work in gnome fallback session
[14:57] <KeyboardNotFound> elx, i agree with BluesKaj, try gparted live cd - > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[14:57] <elx> Guys Gpart generate a .html for "Extra" details regarding the failure
[14:57] <elx> would you like to have a look at it?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> Surkow|laptop  fallback will no longer be in the next release, better get used to something else
[14:58] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, it's idle. as i said, when i reboot freshly, it's about 30 deg C, then after some time jumps (in less than 1 second) to 127 and stays there. i'll check inside later... just wanted to verify beforehand that other also think "pretty soon" as the time of visible effects if the reported temperature was correct.
[14:58] <Sven_vB> so in that regard, thank you. :)
[14:58] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, if its instantly jumping, that would suggest something's putting your processor at max, or the temperature sensor is broken.
[15:00] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, i suspect a bug in acpi, since the load shown in htop or uptime is low all the time.
[15:00] <thufir_> usr13: ?
[15:02] <Sven_vB> it was just if someone said "well it can work for a few weeks but reduces overall lifespan", then i had hurried verfifying hardware facts
[15:04] <hackermind> porra
[15:07] <soee> hi, any idea what am i missing here: http://paste.kde.org/633152/ ?
[15:08] <papna> I have a process that is messing up my computer. I would like to kill it and tried to go to tty1, but my ttys won't come up
[15:08] <verd> soee: some kde development packages perhaps
[15:08] <papna> I seem to remember there was something to do to make it try harder, but I don't remember what.
[15:09] <streulma> hello, does someone run iTunes in Wine ?
[15:10] <medo> Reading package lists... Error!
[15:10] <medo> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[15:10] <medo> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_quantal_partner_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA
[15:10] <medo> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[15:11] <medo> this message appear to me when i trying to install any program
[15:12] <medo> what can i do?
[15:13] <thufir_> ubuntu 12.04 boots fine:  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235   but 12.10 won't load the GUI correctly.  The x logs are in the link.  what's the problem?
[15:13] <medo> hello !
[15:14] <medo> what can i do pleas ?
[15:14] <thufir_> medo: hi
[15:14] <BluesKaj> medo , your sources.list looks like it needs editing , the partm=ners repos is missing a header
[15:14] <BluesKaj> partners
[15:15] <thufir_> Segmentation fault at address 0x0 for http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235.   why the seg fault?  I don't see what causes that problem with X windows.
[15:17] <hackermind> hey guys
[15:18] <BluesKaj> medo,  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[15:22] <GINO> ciao
[15:22] <GINO> !list
[15:22] <yeats> BluesKaj: that's a cool page!  There should definitely be a similar tool "officially" available.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> yeats, I just hope a new sources.list solves his problem
[15:23] <rincewind> is anybody else having problems with ntfs in 12.10?
[15:24] <yeats> !anyone | rincewind
[15:24] <BluesKaj> rincewind, ntfs on ?
[15:25] <rincewind> usb devices, memory sticks, external hard drives
[15:26] <thufir_> Segmentation fault at address 0x0 for http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235.   why the seg fault?  I don't see what causes that problem with X windows.
[15:27] <BluesKaj> rincewind, tell us your problems with ntfs
[15:27] <rincewind> BluesKaj: after copying files onto these devices, i get nfs errors when i plug in the device again
[15:28] <dawkirst> Hi everyone, I've just installed Ubuntu (so I'm brand new to Ubuntu and Linux). I seemingly can't get my wifi to work. I'm lost for clues. I've googled around, but I can't quite glean what I need to. Anyone in here willing to point me in the right direction?
[15:29] <rincewind> BluesKaj: i'm only getting this problem with 12.10. my 11.10 machine is fine
[15:29] <BluesKaj> rincewind, what are the errors ?
[15:30] <rincewind> BluesKaj: besides the errors which i will try to recreate now, the files are gone, but the disk capacity is reduced
[15:30] <speard> how do i get /etc/init/ttyS0.conf to clear my terminal before running getty?
[15:31] <speard> exec clear or exec clear_console does not work
[15:31] <The_Sleeples_One> hi
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> I managed to somehow make my appearance settings disappear
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> so now I do not have the ability to change my appearance settings
[15:32] <speard> i also tried exec clear_console > /dev/ttyS0. this works from a regular root shell but not /etc/init/ttyS0.conf
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> I have no idea how it happened
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> I was having issues with ntfs-3g driver not allowing write access
[15:33] <The_Sleeples_One> did a bunch of reinstalling of drivers and whatnot
[15:33] <The_Sleeples_One> and bam
[15:33] <The_Sleeples_One> no more appearance settings
[15:34] <b33nj> hi
[15:34] <Vivekananda> My ubuntu always starts with headphone volume maximized and having troubles(orange triangle) with current updates. Ubuntu lucid on a dell old laptop
[15:34] <Vivekananda> hello everyone
[15:35] <b33nj> Vivekananda, hello
[15:35] <Vivekananda> hey there
[15:35] <Vivekananda> b33nj
[15:35] <b33nj> hey
[15:35] <thufir_> how do you change the monitor resolution for 12.10?
[15:36] <The_Sleeples_One> thufir_
[15:36] <The_Sleeples_One> hit the super key (winkey)
[15:36] <b33nj> thufir_, settings > display settings
[15:36] <The_Sleeples_One> yeah, that
[15:36] <icore3> Hello, i have a Problem with Kubuntu. Can i ask in german too? My english is very bad.
[15:36] <thufir_> b33nj: pardon, I meant when you don't have a GUI
[15:36] <rumpe1> icore3, klar
[15:36] <dakotawulfy> hi
[15:36] <icore3> Ok,super.
[15:36] <thufir_> what I mean is, how do you change the monitor resolution, assuming that's causing the seg fault, which prevents the gui from loading?
[15:36] <rincewind> BluesKaj: i tried to copy files to a flash drive to see if i could recreate the errors, the copy quickly completed but the progress is still being shown for more than ten minutes only then finishes
[15:37] <rumpe1> icore3, maybe try #ubuntu-de
[15:37] <b33nj> thufir_, monitor resolution of terminal?
[15:37] <icore3> rumpe1, thank you
[15:37] <thufir_> terminal works fine, gui gives seg fault. presumably it's monitor resolution or other problem.
[15:38] <b33nj> thufir_, then i do not know, have you googled it?
[15:38] <thufir_> other configure I should say.  12.04 on the same hardware works fine, diff hd. but 12.10 gives seg fault.
[15:39] <thufir_> b33nj: thanks.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> rincewind, yes ,copying does take a while ...if the notifier is still open then the copy process is in progress
[15:39] <b33nj> thufir_, have you googled it?
[15:39] <thufir_> b33nj: thank you.
[15:40] <rincewind> BluesKaj: it was small files and it was sitting at 100% for about 6 minutes
[15:40] <b33nj> thufir_, for what?
[15:40] <dawkirst> Anyone?
[15:41] <thufir_> b33nj: I don't know that it's a resolution problem.  I have no idea, I had asked why the segmentation fault, but got no response. I ask how to set the resolution and...never mind.
[15:42] <cler> Hi
[15:42] <cler> I have a question
[15:42] <cler> (Sorry for my bad english)
[15:42] <medo> BluesKaj : pleas tell me the sequences to solve it
[15:43] <rincewind> dawkirst: do "sudo lshw -C network" on the command line and see what wifi chipset you have
[15:43] <thufir_> b33nj: could this be caused by resolution?  seg fault for http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235.
[15:43] <cler> today i wanted to try ubuntu
[15:43] <BluesKaj> medo, just follow the instructions in the page
[15:43] <dawkirst> rincewind, ok will do that shortly (machine is quickly restarting).
[15:43] <cler> it install and all is normally
[15:44] <cler> but the wlan does not work
[15:44] <BluesKaj> !pm | medo
[15:44] <rincewind> cler: ask your question, see if somebody answers
[15:44] <dawkirst> rincewind, from previous Googling and mucking around in the terminal I've seen it is a Ralink RT2500.
[15:44] <cler> it install and all is normally
[15:44] <cler> but the wlan does not work
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[15:44] <The_Sleeples_One> I have an issue that I wanna resolve D:
[15:44] <cler> i have an acer aspire 5742g with boraodcom
[15:44] <ThinkT510> !b43 | cler
[15:45] <dawkirst> rincewind, but I'll double check and let you konw.
[15:45] <TheBase> Hello. I can't get my DVD driver to work. It's not being listed on "wodim --devices", "lshw" or "dmesg". It's as if the drivers were removed from the kernel. Would that be possible? I'm running 12.04 (tried 3.2 and 2.6 kernel)
[15:45] <The_Sleeples_One> my appearance settings disappeared after fixing an ntfs-3g issue
[15:45] <cler> it is easy? im a noob in linux :D
[15:45] <rincewind> cler: sudo lshw -C network -- then look at wifi chipset
[15:45] <yeats> The_Sleeples_One: can you elaborate on what is meant by "did a bunch of reinstalling of drivers and whatnot"?  what did you actually do?
[15:46] <cler> nothing...i dont know what i can do
[15:46] <sporkboy> okay, so here's my problem du jour. for whatever reason, on every boot I have to  $sudo modprobe b43 to get wifi. how do I make it do this on boot? it's only blacklisted in one file, and commenting the line there doesn't change anything.
[15:46] <rincewind> cler: what was the ouput?
[15:46] <cler> i try it once more
[15:46] <cler> no output
[15:46] <cler> better i try it once more
[15:47] <cler> which server would be needed?
[15:47] <cler> i search quickly the vendorid.....
[15:48] <cler> which server would be needed? server......sorry i mean driver
[15:48] <Vivekananda> anyone on that answer ?
[15:48] <thufir_> how do I trace where the Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting error came from? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235
[15:48] <cler> PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4357&SUBSYS_E021105B&REV_01
[15:48] <cler> this is the vendor
[15:48] <BluesKaj> cler, if the module/driver loads properly there will be no output from the modprobe command
[15:49] <rincewind> cler: if there is no output from "sudo lshw -C network", then you do not have wifi
[15:49] <dakotawulfy> sporkboy
[15:49] <cler> "sudo lshw -C network" should i put this into the terminal?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> er sorry cler I meant sporkboy
[15:50] <dawkirst> rincewind, yes, lshw outputs a RT2500 card (it appears as if cler has the same problem as me). Would you like to see the output on a gist?
[15:50] <cler> wait i come later
[15:51] <cler> i try it once more and i copy the output
[15:51] <oioi2> Hi people
[15:51] <oioi2> Fuckyouman
[15:51] <DJones> oioi2: Do you have any support question?
[15:52] <dawkirst> rincewind, it doesn't pick up any networks though, so I suspect it might be a driver issue. How can I troubleshoot?
[15:52] <cler> i come later
[15:52] <cler> i try it again
[15:52] <cler> bye
[15:52] <oioi2> No
[15:52] <oioi2> Tks
[15:52] <DJones> !coc | oioi2
[15:53] <cler> thanks for help
[15:53] <sporkboy> rincewind, I definitely have wifi, since I'm connected to the internet without a cable. I just want to not have to modprobe it every time I boot up.
[15:54] <The_Sleeples_One> anyone?
[15:54] <The_Sleeples_One> I feel ignored :(
[15:54] <yeats> The_Sleeples_One: did you see my question above?
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> now I did
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> uhm
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> so I installed mtpfs in an attempt to manage files on my Nexus 7
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> didn't work
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> so I did "sudo uninstall fuse mtpfs"
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> it uninstalled fuse
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> so I ran "sudo install fuse"
[15:56] <ThinkT510> The_Sleeples_One: it was not a good idea to remove fuse
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> err, "sudo remove* fuse mtpfs" my bad
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> yeah
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> I have since realized that
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> I removed and reinstalled ntfs-3g when my write access stopped working
[15:56] <BluesKaj> sporkboy, I suggst you remove the blacklisted entry rather tahn comment it
[15:56] <BluesKaj> than
[15:56] <arooni-mobile> i'm trying to debug a HTTP request.  i *thought* i matched it according to firebug; but when i send it to the server; it seems different.  is there a way to send both requests to a local server so i can see where my problem is?  so i can see the raw request?
[15:57] <The_Sleeples_One> then installed and ran the ntfs configuration tool thing from the software center
[15:57] <The_Sleeples_One> it fixed the issue for me
[15:57] <The_Sleeples_One> but now my appearance settings have disappeared
[15:57] <dawkirst> rincewind, sorry to be bugging you like this, but you seem to have been the only one that replied. Have you got any other advice for me?
[15:57] <thufir_> how do I know whether this xorg error:  Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting  is caused by driver, config or other cause?  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235
[15:59] <rmoore> i'm trying to get the  nvidia-96 driver to download/install and I keep getting a dialog box indicating that there are package dpendencies that are unresolved/uninstallable
[15:59] <The_Sleeples_One> so the issue is now that my appearance settings are gone
[15:59] <Vivekananda> anyone there who could answer me ? about the volume always max for headphone on reboot?
[15:59] <The_Sleeples_One> when I boot up, it says "system error"
[15:59] <The_Sleeples_One> I presume it has something to do with it
[16:00] <thufir_> rmoore: maybe bad idea, but I believe clobber might fix that. or make it worse.
[16:00] <The_Sleeples_One> Vivekanada
[16:00] <The_Sleeples_One> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172488/volume-control-stopped-working-always-max-voume
[16:00] <The_Sleeples_One> I can reboot my machine, copy the error, and then hop back on here if you think that would help
[16:02] <Mongolski> hej
[16:03] <rmoore> can someone tell me how to execute a .run file?
[16:03] <yeats> rmoore: can you do 'file <filename>'? on the file (replacing <filename> with the actual .run file's name)
[16:05] <The_Sleeples_One> eh?
[16:05] <The_Sleeples_One> should I restart and copy the "system error" that pops up?
[16:05] <thefoxrat> so i really need some help
[16:05] <The_Sleeples_One> also, my ntfs partitions are automatically mounting on boot
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> thefoxrat  start with a question
[16:06] <compdoc> I think its really wierd that ppl start a sentence with 'so'
[16:06] <thefoxrat> ok, so I just installed Ubuntu via wubi on my other pc. After the first reboot, it worked fine. I restarted again and I don't even get POST. My monitor goes to power save mode as well. Any help
[16:06] <b33nj> compdoc, why?
[16:07] <compdoc> sounds odd. Ppl on tv and radio and here online all do it
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> thefoxrat  wubi is a testing enverinment, better install ubuntu on its own partition, next to windows
[16:07] <BluesKaj> compdoc, so what ? :)
[16:07] <b33nj> compdoc, why do you watch tv? that is a waste of time
[16:08] <thefoxrat> Ok, but my main issue is that I can't even boot into windows. When I power on my pc, it turns on but it doesn't seem to boot at all
[16:09] <bekks> thefoxrat: Then it is an issue for #hardware or ##windows more likely.
[16:10] <b33nj> bekks, what #windows on a linux channel is for?
[16:10] <mike_papa> Hello. I've got problem with accessing shared scanner. I have HP LaserJet 3055 (all in one) connected to rasberrypi, and sane setup there. On rasberry scanimale -L returns correct device. sane-port is in the /etc/services. On Ubuntu box /etc/sane.d/net.conf has line with rasberry's ip. What else I need to do?
[16:11] <bekks> b33nj: It was a suggestion to ask in another channel because a) his computer isnt booting at all and b) he is using wubi so windows has to be working before he gets to Ubuntu at all.
[16:11] <thefoxrat> I guess I just figured that because before Ubuntu install my pc was fine and after, it is not, that it was an ubuntu problem
[16:11] <txomon> can anyone tell me when will ubuntu have in any of its repo apache version 2.4
[16:11] <txomon> ?
[16:11] <txomon> I can't find it even in raring...
[16:11] <b33nj> okay
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> !latest | txomon
[16:12] <Muphrid> txomon: when debian packages it
[16:13] <theadmin> I have a line saying "* hard fsize 10240" in my /etc/security/limits.conf, however I have successfully created a file of size 15M just now (using a simple dd command). Am I doing something wrong?
[16:17] <JPMH> I used to use gnome-session-save --force-logout to force a session end.  How do I do the same under 12.04 with unity?
[16:17] <theadmin> Err. Never mind. A reboot helped.
[16:20] <theadmin> JPMH: Same -- Unity is just an interface for GNOME.
[16:23] <The_Sleeples_One> Unity sucks imo
[16:23] <The_Sleeples_One> it would be kinda awesome if it wasn't really slow
[16:23] <The_Sleeples_One> Gnome<3
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> The_Sleeples_One  unity is a gnome3 shell
[16:24] <DJones> The_Sleeples_One: Thats the good thing about linux, you have the option of using it or not
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> DJones indeed
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> I'm not trying to hate on Unity or anything
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> but it really lagged on my machine :/
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> I was looking forward to giving it a chance, but I couldn't deal with the lag
[16:26] <skp1> The_Sleeples_One: your a hater
[16:27] <xomniverse> this may sound like a dumb question but; is there any difference between Xubuntu and Linux Mint Xfce apart from appearance and maybe different default apps?
[16:28] <DaRmAr> how to set up the F buttons for bans on xchat?
[16:28] <ThinkT510> xomniverse: mint isn't supported here
[16:29] <souliaq> Annoying "403 - Forbidden" in a folder with 777 permissions (lighttpd in Ubuntu 12.04)
[16:29] <theadmin> souliaq: Possibly you don't have a module loaded that's necessary for the interpretation of this folder's "index" file
[16:29] <linxeh> souliaq: there are lots of causes of 403 - you might need to check the error log to see why
[16:30] <souliaq> theadmin, the problem is this works with /var/www
[16:30] <souliaq> I need a simple file server, you know someone even more simple?
[16:30] <linxeh> souliaq: the chances are you have missed a directive for your other folder that enables indexes; you need an options declaration with an "indexes"
[16:30] <souliaq> This is taking too long.
[16:31] <txomon> Muphrid, debian did
[16:31] <txomon> MonkeyDust, stability in ubuntu is relative
[16:31] <souliaq> are you tried "Bozotic HTTP server"?
[16:32] <linxeh> souliaq: oh lighttd, my bad, ignore my options/indexes statement - you need the lighttd equivalent of that :o
[16:32] <souliaq> ok
[16:32] <Muphrid> txomon: it is in experimental, raring merges from unstable, when it hits unstable then raring when merge it
[16:32] <theadmin> souliaq: server.dir-listing = "enable" in /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf
[16:32] <linxeh> souliaq: I'd go with lighttd or apache - something tried and tested and secure
[16:33] <txomon> Muphrid, ok
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> souliaq  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20121224053900277/LightweightWebServers.html
[16:35] <bomber> ciao
[16:37] <bomber> !list
[16:37] <zoogoo> hello
[16:37] <zoogoo> hey hey hey
[16:38] <alimj> Hello. I have two old USB Wifi G adapters. -- lsusb says they are: 09aa:1000 Intersil Corp. Prism GT 802.11b/g Adapter
[16:38] <bomber> ?list
[16:38] <alimj> ... and uname says: 3.2.0-35-generic
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> !it | bomber
[16:38] <alimj> Does anyone know a working driver?
[16:39] <alimj> P.S.: They are compex WLU54G
[16:44] <Blop123> hello everybody, I m using *buntu 12.10 dual boot with win8. both system share a quite big partition. after moving some files around i am left with several corrupted ones. When trying to delete them I receive the following error message "No such file or directory". Any suggestions on how to solve this?
[16:44] <theadmin> Blop123: How exactly are you deleting them?
[16:45] <Blop123> first i tried the graphical way through thunar, and then via the terminal (sudo rm -f file)
[16:45] <Blop123> neither one worked
[16:45] <atriani> judo en pv
[16:45] <theadmin> Blop123: Does the filename have weird charactrers like spaces or whatever?
[16:46] <bekks> Blop123: Then check using ls -lha wether the file still exists.
[16:46] <souliaq> How I can check with Ubuntu, what service locks specified TCP port?
[16:46] <Blop123> yes spaces, hence when deleting i use A\ B\ ...
[16:46] <Blop123> it still exists but not in that folder\
[16:46] <bekks> souliaq: sudo lsof -i or sudo netstat -tulpen
[16:47] <theadmin> Blop123: Err... Well, if it's not in "that" folder then change to whatever folder it is in
[16:47] <BluesKaj> !fr | atriani
[16:47] <finegansworld> Can someone tell me where the file for display settings is on Xubuntu 12.10?  There is no xorg.conf file.  I can make changes to some file using the settings editor, but I don't know what file it's modifying.
[16:48] <Blop123> bekks: it seems to still exist
[16:49] <theadmin> finegansworld: You can make an xorg.conf if you feel it's necessary.
[16:50] <finegansworld> theadmin: Well it seems that the settings editor is modifying some file, do you know what file that is modifying
[16:50] <finegansworld> ?
[16:50] <theadmin> finegansworld: Not really, but it obviously isn't anything under /etc because it doesn't run as root...
[16:51] <Blop123> theadmin: what i meant is that the original file has been moved to another folder, now i am trying to delete a "relic" file that stayed there for some reason
[16:52] <theadmin> Blop123: Hm... Well. Maybe it's not a file but a link? Try "unlink something"
[16:52] <theadmin> Blop123: (where 'something' is the filename)
[16:52] <Blop123> using bekks command i found out that it is still there (also rw), but can t be read
[16:52] <Blop123> it s not a link, i checked by deleting the original file
[16:53] <atriani> all my excuses
[16:53] <Blop123> according to the size and properties it looks like the original but unaccessible
[16:53] <finegansworld> Yeah, maybe that's why the settings don't stay when I re-boot.  That's the main thing, I want my resolution to stay the same when I reboot my machine.
[16:54] <theadmin> Blop123: Ah what the hell. echo a > something (to overwrite the file), then delete what that creates.
[16:54] <WeThePeople> how to remove the lock on a .sh
[16:54] <alexit> IS anyone available to help me to enable the backlight keyboard on my laptopt  ASUS N56VZ ? I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[16:54] <Blop123> i ll give it a try thanks
[16:58] <finegansworld> theadmin:  Would you recommend that I just make a xorg.conf file?
[16:58] <theadmin> finegansworld: Yeah I guess so
[16:59] <usr13> WeThePeople: lock?
[16:59] <bomber> ciao
[16:59] <bomber> !list
[16:59] <WeThePeople> usr13, you know the picture of a lock
[16:59] <WeThePeople> i think i have to chmod but not sure
[16:59] <usr13> WeThePeople: sudo chown WeThePeople .sh
[17:00] <WeThePeople> ok thanks
[17:00] <usr13> WeThePeople: Where WeThePeople is your actual user name on the system.
[17:00] <WeThePeople> usr13, idk
[17:00] <WeThePeople> the su auth. is failing though
[17:01] <usr13> WeThePeople: Are you logged in as Guest?
[17:01] <WeThePeople> usr13, no
[17:01] <usr13> WeThePeople: What happens when you try to use sudo?
[17:02] <carcinogen_75> Whats better to use: sudo -s or sudo -i ???
[17:02] <HackerII> cool nic
[17:02] <WeThePeople> usr13, sometimes it works
[17:02] <alexit> IS anyone available to help me to enable the backlight keyboard on my laptopt  ASUS N56VZ ? I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[17:02] <alexit> IS anyone available to help me to enable the backlight keyboard on my laptopt  ASUS N56VZ ? I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[17:02] <usr13> carcinogen_75: sudo -i
[17:02] <carcinogen_75> Thx
[17:03] <usr13> WeThePeople: What do you mean sometimes?   It either works or it doesn't.  Let's do a little test;  open a terminal and do: ls -l ~/home |pastebinit
[17:03] <usr13> WeThePeople: And send resulting URL
[17:03] <Blop123> theadmin: only result from the command line: bash: file: Input/output error
[17:04] <usr13> WeThePeople: (If it tells you to install pastebinit, do it.
[17:04] <theadmin> Blop123: Bah. Okay, no idea
[17:04] <WeThePeople> usr13, it says cannot access
[17:04] <WeThePeople> no sudo
[17:05] <WeThePeople> usr13, ^^
[17:06] <usr13> WeThePeople: who |pastebinit
[17:06] <usr13> WeThePeople: Oh you can't install pastebinit, sorry.
[17:06] <Blop123> theadmin: jejeje ok thanks anyway ；-）
[17:06] <Blop123> last resort format
[17:07] <theadmin> WeThePeople: who | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[17:07] <usr13> WeThePeople: What is the user name? Issue command who and tell us what it says.
[17:07] <Parkman> Hello, I am using windows to make a partition for ubuntu, what format should I make that partition for ubuntu installing?
[17:07] <theadmin> Parkman: Ext4. But Windows doesn't deal with normal filesystems.
[17:07] <usr13> WeThePeople: Yea, do as theadmin said.
[17:07] <WeThePeople> theadmin, what does that do?
[17:07] <theadmin> Parkman: You should use Ubuntu to install it
[17:07] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Alternative to pastebinit
[17:08] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Curl comes preinstalled, so...
[17:08] <Picto> Hello
[17:08] <WeThePeople> thats cool
[17:08] <Parkman> Alright, so what should I do to install it? leave it unallocated?
[17:08] <Parkman> and then
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Parkman, suggest you DL inand burn to cd or other media , gparted live for editing partitions
[17:09] <Parkman> alright, then i can make it ext4 from one of those programs?
[17:09] <SunMoonStar> Anyone here use Google app engine? What path do you place it in? Should I keep it in /var/www with rest of my web stuff or in home or other?
[17:09] <Picto> I need install Window XP, but Ubuntu remove driver SATA, how i can install driver SATA por Window XP? (sorry i speak spanish)
[17:09] <Picto> for*
[17:09] <Muphrid> Parkman: you can boot it via live usb and partition via GParted, or directly in the installer
[17:10] <Parkman> ohh, perfect! I will just use it directly in the installer.
[17:10] <WeThePeople> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476311/
[17:10] <Parkman> Thanks a ton!
[17:10] <theadmin> WeThePeople: "su" is unusable on Ubuntu
[17:11] <WeThePeople> ok
[17:11] <usr13> WeThePeople: You have to use sudo
[17:11] <Picto> pls help, i need driver SATA
[17:11] <Picto> or run program "HDD Regenator" for Ubuntu
[17:11] <compdoc> sudo su work for me, but it might be because I changed my sudoers file
[17:12] <jrib> compdoc: don't use sudo su :/
[17:12] <usr13> compdoc: No, it just works, but best to just do  sudo -i
[17:13] <compdoc> its very rare I need to be root, but its happened
[17:13] <Parkman> Thanks guys, this is why I love the linux community!
[17:13] <usr13> WeThePeople: Can you pastebin the results of   ls -l ~/   ?
[17:13] <jrib> compdoc: that's fine.  You still shouldn't do "sudo su" to achieve it though
[17:13] <WeThePeople> usr13, no it worked though
[17:14] <usr13> Ok.
[17:14] <justasking> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my newest fresh install (Ubuntu 12.10), while partitioning the hard drive, unity-greeter crashes
[17:15] <LambdaMutt> (I apologize for the spurious connects / disconnects. I'm trying to configure XChat and it seems to connect here 'out of the box.)
[17:15] <justasking> and the same error lines keep repeating
[17:15] <justasking> in the ouput
[17:15] <justasking> has anyone of you experienced such a problem ?
[17:16] <justasking> I also had the same issue with a 12.04 installation (both amd64)
[17:16] <usr13> justasking: What do you mean "while partitioning the hard drive"?    Have you finished the install yet?
[17:16] <justasking> nope, I already have a debian wheezy installation and just readjust the hard drive's space
[17:16] <justasking> to each disto
[17:18] <freshstart> does anybody know a countdown timer?
[17:18] <usr13> justasking: Can you explain more fully what your situation is?  And what it is you are actually trying to do?
[17:19] <usr13> freshstart: there's ktimer
[17:19] <justasking> I'm currently doing an installation of Ubuntu 12.10
[17:19] <LinuxGuy91> Hello my computer is not working
[17:19] <LinuxGuy91> Hello my computer is not working
[17:19] <LinuxGuy91> Hello my computer is not working
[17:19] <FloodBot1> LinuxGuy91: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <justasking> while the installation window appears and asks me the usual questions about 3rd party software etc ...
[17:20] <Tex_Nick> freshstart : looks like GTimer & GNOME Clocks might work for you
[17:20] <justasking> after readjusting the size of my hard drive
[17:21] <justasking> and press continue, next or whatever
[17:21] <freshstart> Tex_Nick: usr13 :any of them have the ability to show ms?
[17:21] <justasking> an error appers
[17:21] <xangua> !enter | justasking
[17:21] <Lil> LinuxGuy91; Your gonna have to be a little more specific then that.
[17:21] <usr13> justasking: So did you create a couple of new partitions (of adequate size)?
[17:22] <justasking> i keep around 500 for my debian installation and use another 500 for ubuntu
[17:23] <LinuxGuy91> Hello friends
[17:23] <LinuxGuy91> Hello friends
[17:23] <LinuxGuy91> Hello friends
[17:23] <FloodBot1> LinuxGuy91: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <justasking> wait it looks like it started to run smoothly again
[17:24] <usr13> freshstart: http://imagebin.org/240987
[17:25] <usr13> justasking: Can you quote the exact text of the error?
[17:25] <dawkirst> Random question: what is man-db?
[17:25] <justasking> anyway thanks for your time guys ... I nearly missed my latest gentoo and slackware installations, fdisk rocks :P
[17:25] <Muphrid> dawkirst: database of manual pages
[17:25] <Tex_Nick> freshstart: I just installed GNOME Clocks ... it only resolvesto seconds
[17:26] <dawkirst> Muphrid, thanks. I'm brand new to Ubuntu (and Linux), so I suspect I'll be asking more random questions.
[17:26] <usr13> justasking: 500G?  Don't you already have a /home/ paritiion?
[17:26] <Muphrid> dawkirst: this channel is meant for it
[17:26] <Tex_Nick> freshstart : thst's in countdown mode ... in timer mode it resolves to tenths of a second
[17:27] <Muphrid> as long as it is a support question also
[17:27] <dawkirst> Muphrid, good to hear it.
[17:29] <dawkirst> Another random question: what does the source command do? (man source doesn't give me much)
[17:30] <Tex_Nick> freshstart : just installed KTimer that usr13 recommended ... it's nice
[17:31] <freshstart> Tex_Nick: yeah it's nice but doesnt support ms
[17:32] <Muphrid> dawkirst: never heard of it before but fuond this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdln_source.htm
[17:32] <dawkirst> Muphrid, thanks for that.
[17:32] <Alex12> hi!
[17:32] <Alex12> help plz
[17:32] <Malsasa> Alex12: hi...
[17:32] <skai-falkorr> hi
[17:33] <sda1986> i have a 6core processor. I have to use "DD" can i use "DD" with all cores?
[17:33] <angs> I do not have /proc/bus/usb/devices on my ubuntu 12.04. what is the substitute directory  of that?
[17:33] <Alex12> i need fastest turbo flash player for big fps in video please where and how install it?
[17:34] <skai-falkorr> i have some problem with unity. unity test says http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476368/ , but compiz (core) - Info: Unity is not supported by your hardware. Enabling software rendering instead (slow). intel x4500MHD Ubuntu 12.10. what should i do?
[17:36] <Muphrid> Alex12: is that the name of something? you could increase performance using the flash-aid addon or playing it hardware aceelerated
[17:36] <Muphrid> sda1986: dd is an operation on disks, i doubt the processor plays a big role on it
[17:36] <Alex12> old computer
[17:37] <Muphrid> Alex12: try with flash-aid addon
[17:37] <Alex12> bad video card is bad GPU aceleration
[17:37] <Alex12> me instsll flash-aid?
[17:37] <Muphrid> yes
[17:37] <sda1986> Muphrid, Yea, but I can see I have a core with 100%, I think move data between /dev/urandom to an MD (raid software) could use a bit of processor
[17:39] <Alex12> flash code is open?
[17:39] <Alex12> where can download high version of it?
[17:39] <Alex12> high speed version
[17:40] <bazhang> Alex12, it's adobe so not open. there is no high speed version
[17:40] <Muphrid> Alex12: that addon I told you will download the most appropriate version for your system
[17:41] <Alex12> mupf i need only addon or flash so also?
[17:41] <Muphrid> sda1986: I found no reference to multithreading in dd so I assume you cant
[17:41] <Muphrid> Alex12: the addon will download flash for you and configure it
[17:42] <Alex12> ok
[17:42] <Alex12> how install just in apt-get?
[17:42] <dawkirst> Muphrid, on that note, can you recommend a good overall resource for learning?
[17:43] <Muphrid> dawkirst: learning anything specifically?
[17:43] <bazhang> !manual | dawkirst
[17:44] <Motoservo> I've never setup linux before and now I'm installing Ubuntu for a client side app I need to run on my Mac (via Boot Camp). I'm installing it to a USB stick drive that came formatted as DOS FAT32, is there a preferred (or required) format for Linux?
[17:44] <bazhang> !rute | dawkirst and this
[17:44] <dawkirst> Muphrid, just general usage of Linux, but with the ultimate aim of using it to develop software.
[17:44] <skai-falkorr> no advise for me?
[17:44] <dawkirst> Thanks bazhang.
[17:44] <Alex12> not found
[17:45] <bazhang> dawkirst, this channel is for ubuntu support, general questions such as you are asking would be better addressed in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:45] <bazhang> Alex12, whats not found. please be clear
[17:45] <dawkirst> bazhang, ok, understood. Thanks.
[17:45] <Alex12> flash-aid
[17:45] <Alex12>  not found
[17:45] <sda1986> yea, me too, that's why i asked here. Hail mary
[17:45] <bazhang> Alex12, where did you check for it
[17:46] <Muphrid> Alex12: https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/flash-aid/?src=ss
[17:46] <Alex12> sudo apt-get install flash-aid
[17:46] <Alex12> hey i use chromium
[17:46] <bazhang> Alex12, its a firefox addon so its not apt-get
[17:46] <Alex12> nono
[17:46] <Alex12> in foefox always low fps in video
[17:46] <usuario_> ola
[17:47] <bazhang> Alex12, there is no super high speed flash player
[17:47] <Alex12> in chromium only normal
[17:47] <usuario_> tu madreeeeeeeeeeee la putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:47] <xangua> Alex12: as in any other browser, flash in general sucks
[17:47] <Muphrid> Alex12: maybe you should try the official chrome since it has flash bundled in its latest version
[17:47] <xangua> !ops | usuario_
[17:47] <Alex12> i see many hotos in google
[17:47] <Alex12> help plz
[17:48] <Alex12> Muph there are also not very fast work
[17:48] <Alex12> but better other flash plaers of standart Ubuntu
[17:48] <Muphrid> Alex12: what do you use flash for then? only youtube?
[17:49] <Alex12> not only
[17:49] <Alex12> i want online anime
[17:49] <bazhang> !ot | Alex12
[17:49] <Muphrid> Alex12: your last option then is an script like this http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011
[17:49] <Alex12> how install high speed flash plz?
[17:50] <bazhang> Alex12, stop asking. it does NOT exist
[17:50] <tyler> Okay, I have some SERIOUS issues.
[17:50] <by313> Блин ток поставил на нетбук 12.10 не могу понять туит или нет... Может кто подскажет новичку какую линуху на нетбук поставить?
[17:50] <xangua> Alex12: there is not such thing as you have been told all this time
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[17:50] <bazhang> by313, #ubuntu-ru
[17:50] <Guest26181> I'm trying to install a software called Watchtower Library
[17:50] <Guest26181> And when it installs with Wine
[17:50] <Nambarc> Hi, is this where I can get general help with Ubuntu?
[17:51] <Surkow|laptop> yes, don't ask to ask
[17:51] <Guest26181> Text for Saturday, December 29, 2012
[17:51] <Guest26181> ◀◀week  ◀day  today  day▸  week▸▸
[17:51] <Guest26181> Squares come up
[17:51] <Guest26181> Where letters are
[17:51] <Guest26181> How do I fix that?
[17:51] <xangua> !appdb | Guest26181
[17:51] <Guest26181> appdb?
[17:51] <Guest26181> okay...
[17:52] <bazhang> Guest26181, #winehq for specific app help
[17:52] <KeyboardNotFound> in one moment my mouse doesn't work, my keyboard doesn't type, why ? after logout and again login all works normal, i use xubuntu 12.10
[17:52] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: and for unity specific questions?
[17:52] <Alex12> xangua i example watch in vlc plugin in browser videos and have high fps
[17:52] <Alex12> Muphrid how use it?
[17:52] <bazhang> skai-falkorr, all kinds, whats the unity issue
[17:53] <skai-falkorr> bazhang:  i have some problem with unity. unity test says http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476368/ , but compiz (core) - Info: Unity is not supported by your hardware. Enabling software rendering instead (slow). intel x4500MHD Ubuntu 12.10. what should i do?
[17:53] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: that issue
[17:53] <Muphrid> Alex12: not sure in chromium, thought it was just clicking install
[17:54] <bazhang> skai-falkorr, does additional drivers offer anything for that? there was an xorg-edgers some time ago specifically for intel gpu that did not have support that way, but as its a PPA its at your own risk entirely
[17:54] <Alex12> Muph its for all sites will work?
[17:55] <Muphrid> Alex12: in the same page it says the supported websites
[17:55] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: jockey dont offer anything for me. you think xswat ppa for intel can help? well.. thats not gonna kill me if i try^_^
[17:56] <Alex12> ok thx i will try!
[17:56] <Alex12> bb!
[17:56] <SunMoonStar> which directories get replaced when you do a system update? Surely not /usr/local or /opt ?
[17:58] <bazhang> SunMoonStar, update? or version upgrade
[17:58] <SunMoonStar> bazhang: i guess I mean version upgrade
[17:59] <bazhang> SunMoonStar, PPA are disabled, for one
[17:59] <SunMoonStar> I want to know if those directories are safe to put stuff that it won't get overridden
[17:59] <bazhang> such as /opt ?
[17:59] <SunMoonStar> yes
[17:59] <KeyboardNotFound> in one moment my mouse doesn't work, my keyboard doesn't type, why ? after logout and again login all works normal, i use xubuntu 12.10
[17:59] <bazhang> that would surely be safe
[17:59] <SunMoonStar> i am tryign to figure out whether to put my google app engine sdk in /opt/gae or /usr/local/gae
[18:00] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: either of them
[18:00] <SunMoonStar> and i will probably break the path conventions by not using the path/bin or path/doc things either but whatever, I'm just trying to learn and put thigns int he right place as I go along
[18:00] <Muphrid> they dont get "replaced", only upgraded
[18:02] <SunMoonStar> in the /opt/ section of the hierarchy manual, it says programs meant to be run directly by the user should be placed in /opt/<package>/bin
[18:02] <SunMoonStar> why 'must'?
[18:02] <SunMoonStar> I don't want to move files from the way they are placed in the SDK package
[18:03] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: where did you see must
[18:03] <SunMoonStar> Programs to be invoked by users must be located in the directory /opt/<package>/bin or under the /opt/<provider> hierarchy. If the package includes UNIX manual pages, they must be located in /opt/<package>/share/man or under the /opt/<provider> hierarchy, and the same substructure as /usr/share/man must be used.
[18:03] <SunMoonStar> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE14
[18:03] <SunMoonStar> in the opt section
[18:04] <ichat> just a quick question... im a bit confused about...
[18:04] <ichat> my laptop (new) comes with  win8 and secure boot...
[18:04] <ichat> so first i did was disbable sec boot,   now in the  usermanual   it says that for  legacy win 32 bit versions i should change my  system to bios / legacy mode...
[18:04] <ichat> does that apply to ubuntu 32 bit as well?
[18:04] <FloodBot1> ichat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <Catbuntu> Hey
[18:05] <b33nj> suggest me a good book about linux commands
[18:05] <wad> When I "apt-get install mysql-server", it doesn't ask me to supply a root password for the database. And so I don't have access. Googling around hasn't helped. Are there supposed to be docs somewhere for what I'm supposed to do with a package after the "apt-get install" step?
[18:05] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[18:05] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: I believe that in /usr/bin you can only hold a binary executable whereas in opt you can hold a folder
[18:06] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, i have already read half that book
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: not good enough? I'm halfway as well
[18:06] <keoma> ciao
[18:06] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, i do not understand some moments
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: so it is basically saying that it is strongly suggested to not put non executable stuff in bin?
[18:06] <keoma> !list
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: in /opt/<package>/bin i mean?
[18:07] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, also the apt system is not fully explained
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: I think there is nothing better than that book
[18:07] <tag> hi, i when i boot from a drive with no boot folder, i still get grub, how is this happening?
[18:07] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: I do as I said, I put big foldered packages like sagemath in opt and single binaries in /usr/bin like youtube-dl and small apps
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: but I could be wrong
[18:07] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, have you read that book and understand everything?
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: what's the diff between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: so far yes, i'm halfway through
[18:08] <ichat> tag you probably installed grub in your  boot reccort...
[18:08] <tyler_> Hey, guys
[18:08] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: in BSD /usr/local/bin is for user-installed apps and /usr/bin is for OS-installed apps, in linux i think there is none
[18:08] <tag> ichat: how do i clear the boot record?
[18:08] <tyler_> How do I check my computer's specs?
[18:08] <tyler_> dxdiag on windows
[18:08] <tyler_> How on Linux?
[18:08] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: thanks
[18:08] <tyler_> I wanna run a digital diagnostic
[18:08] <tyler_> Anyone?
[18:09] <ichat> tag depeds on the operating system you are running now or want to use here after
[18:09] <tyler_> Ubutnu
[18:09] <tyler_> *Ubuntu
[18:09] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, SunMoonStar, i have downloaded unix in a nutshell
[18:09] <tag> ichat: it's just a storage HDD
[18:09] <tyler_> Nobody wants to help?
[18:10] <SunMoonStar> tyler_: try cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[18:10] <Muphrid> tyler_: you mean like HardInfo?
[18:10] <Muphrid> HardInfo would show all specs possible
[18:10] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: how is that?
[18:10] <tyler_> I mean the equivalent of dxdiag on windows
[18:10] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, i have not unrared it yet
[18:10] <tyler_> 800 mhz ...
[18:10] <tyler_> My laptop fails lol
[18:10] <ichat> tag, its still depends on the os that your running...  google  ¨ clear mbr ubuntu ´  will help you  find the ubuntu way,   fixboot  windows   will help you find the windows way
[18:12] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, in unix in a nutshell author writes about bash
[18:12] <Muphrid> b33nj: have you seen this http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/coreutils.html
[18:12] <tag> ichat: will clearing the first 512 bytes affect my ability to access data on the drive?
[18:12] <bfortified> can someone help me please with a failed deja-dub restore? trying to restore using duplicity but not sure which file to point to. Obviosly the folder it get backs up to is filled with .tar.gz files.
[18:13] <SunMoonStar> does PATH follow symlinks?
[18:13] <b33nj> Muphrid, not yet
[18:13] <ichat> tag...  im not sure
[18:14] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: you want to link opt to usr/bin?
[18:15] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: I was going to install google app engine to /opt/google_app_engine and make a symlink from /home/google_app_engine to /opt/google_app_engine but was wondering if I have to add /opt/google_app_engine to the PATH seeing how (i think) /home/ is already in the path
[18:15] <SunMoonStar> i mean /home/maks
[18:15] <SunMoonStar> maks is my user name
[18:16] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: you can leave it in your home or put in your opts then 'ln -s /path/to/binary/binary /usr/local/bin/binary'
[18:16] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: nope. ppa wont help
[18:17] <Emanon> Hey all, I'm having a couple of problems that I can't find a solution for elsewhere so here I am. First: When I start a program in WINE or Steam it forces it onto my laptop's monitor instead of the external I want (and have always been able to use before) this is a recent event and I haven't changed anything of note to precipitate the change in behavior. Second: my wireless headset has stopped working. It shows up in the sound panel and
[18:19] <jbrq> hi! join tf2 game 176.57.135.221 (free to play)
[18:19] <Muphrid> Emanon: is sound working with other devices?
[18:20] <rincewind> !poll
[18:20] <Emanon> Yes Muphrid. Whenever I hit "test" it just plays on the internal speakers regardless of whether I have them selected or not.
[18:20] <Ronalds_M> gmail, youtube and some other webapps doesn't show, when installed
[18:20] <rincewind> !poll
[18:20] <Ronalds_M> anybody knows why
[18:21] <k1l_> jbrq: no advertising in here, please
[18:26] <Emanon> I kind of need the headset to work (it did last night but apparently something changed while I was sleeping) because I use it for Rosetta Stone.
[18:27] <solaries> how do I get the reason for the last system restart ?
[18:27] <solaries> I would like to send a mail from my server using Python
[18:28] <D_Russ> can someone please tell me how to reclaim the space i created when deleting the windows partition?? i ran the live secure disk with osreover and when i try to expand my ubuntu partition with gparted it will not allow me to go larger but i have 660gb available of unused disk space
[18:28] <k1l_> D_Russ: is the swap partition mounted?
[18:28] <D_Russ> i dont know
[18:28] <D_Russ> how do i unmount it if it is?
[18:29] <k1l_> some live system mount a swap when they find one on the harddisk. that could block partitions to be changed.
[18:29] <D_Russ> ohh i c
[18:29] <D_Russ> know of a work around
[18:30] <D_Russ> k1l_: do you know how i can unmount it if that is my problem?
[18:31] <k1l_> D_Russ: rightclick on that partition and unmount it
[18:31] <D_Russ> option is not there.
[18:31] <bazhang> D_Russ, you are using the live cd or gparted live cd , right?
[18:32] <D_Russ> secured live cd with osremover
[18:32] <bazhang> D_Russ, well with a gparted live cd or ubuntu live cd its no issue
[18:32] <D_Russ> ok i will try a gparted live cd
[18:32] <D_Russ> thanks
[18:33] <k1l_> D_Russ: maybe its a cd specific thing. better ask their support then
[18:33] <bazhang> distrowatch.com has the link
[18:33] <D_Russ> ok cool
[18:33] <D_Russ> thanks guys
[18:34] <xomniverse> every time I try to burn a DVD using either Brasero or xfburn, the burn fails right at the end. Burning CDs seems fine.
[18:35] <Shogoot> Hi i installed xampp(yes im on a windoes os, but the problem can be solved crossplatformed) ann mysql workbench and im trying to connect to my mysql db from my pc to the pc on my network that has the mysql server.
[18:35] <Shogoot> Im using a Dynamic DNS program to manage the dynamic ip issue from my provider. The problem is that i cant connect to the mysql db trough workbench.
[18:35] <Shogoot> Im trying: http://myname.no-ip.org/phpmyadmin  but its failing to connect....    any ideas?
[18:35] <Mech0z> anyone know how to fix this that happens when I do apt-get install -f http://www.gratisimage.dk/graphic/images/2012/December/29/CABA_50DF371C.jpg
[18:35] <bekks> Shogoot: Why dont you just use your local IP when being in your local LAN?
[18:36] <Shogoot> bekks, because i will be developing also from outside my local network. In my spare time on work for example :)
[18:36] <bekks> Shogoot: Then you have to try to connect from outside your LAN. You cant test it from inside.
[18:37] <Muphrid> Mech0z: did you install anything from a ppa?
[18:37] <Shogoot> even if im using the myname.no-ip org ? wont that loop back to my machien anyways?
[18:37] <freshstart> does anybody if there is a program that shows date/time(and milliseconds)?
[18:37] <Mech0z> Muphrid I dont remember
[18:37] <k1l_> freshstart: date?
[18:38] <Muphrid> Mech0z: you have a version higher than the one in repository, did you apt-get update before?
[18:39] <k1l_> freshstart: date can actually dispay nanoseconds. so that is what you are looking for, imho
[18:39] <freshstart> k1l_: i ll give you an example wait
[18:40] <freshstart> k1l_: 20:11:20:16:22:16:34
[18:40] <Mech0z> Muphrid did an apt-get update earlier today, so that should be fine? does this make more sense http://www.gratisimage.dk/graphic/images/2012/December/29/03C7_50DF38EB.jpg
[18:40] <MishaX2> I don't want to start reporting stuff, but I'm really wondering how this works. So for example I can buy a https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/power-off/ utility, which costs like 3 bucks and I could write it in like 10 minutes. It is apparently in the ubuntu software center and is under the gnu gpl license. Shouldn't I be allowed to see the code. Furthermore why are we promoting the whole idea of payin
[18:40] <MishaX2> g for these applications without being able to look at the source? I could then just as well put windows on my computer...
[18:40] <Shogoot> bekks, well your right. im using now the internal ip and it works like  a charm. I will have to test from outside the no-ip.org ip anotehr day :) thanks
[18:41] <Muphrid> Mech0z: yes, perhaps you could purge these depends packages if theyre not a depend for something else
[18:41] <Muphrid> or reinstall
[18:42] <Muphrid> Mech0z: install or open Synaptic, then check the version of these packages there
[18:43] <elx> Guys what is the most user friendly chkdsk equivalent on ubuntu?
[18:43] <k1l_> Mech0z: you have some ppa which have some python packages?
[18:44] <Mech0z> sabnzbdplus must run on python I recon?
[18:44] <Mech0z> same with 2 addons
[18:44] <Muphrid> elx: the equivalent is fsck and is not needed in desktop use
[18:44] <Muphrid> it runs at boot time
[18:44] <elx> can i use it from terminal?
[18:45] <Muphrid> elx: I dont know but you dont need to, it runs on every boot
[18:45] <k1l_> elx: dont run it on mounted partitions
[18:46] <elx> I have been reading regarding my partition error that gparted is giving me and people advice to use chkdsk afew times
[18:46] <rom> exit
[18:46] <elx> when trying to shrink my secondary partition...
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> elx  have you used gparted from a live cd or usb?
[18:46] <Muphrid> Mech0z: what is the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:47] <Emanon> So no joy for my audio and video problems?
[18:47] <Mech0z> Muphrid one moment, I am trying to reboot
[18:48] <elx> i'm using directly from ubuntu, but thought i would do a checkup of the partition and if still get errors then create a live cd
[18:48] <Muphrid> Emanon: when did the headphone stop working?
[18:48] <Emanon> Sometime when I was sleeping last night.
[18:48] <Muphrid> out of nowhere?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> elx  no, use a live cd or usb to shrink partitions
[18:48] <Emanon>  Muphrid It was working immediately before I went to sleep and when I woke up it was not working.
[18:49] <elx> MonkeyDust, Ok thanks!
[18:49] <Mech0z> Muphrid http://pastebin.com/avqeEWru
[18:49] <k1l_> Mech0z: you are using a PPA from jcfp. so better ask him how his PPA ruins your package managment
[18:49] <Muphrid> Emanon: that is weird, I assume changing ports, rebooting or replugging didnt work right
[18:49] <Emanon> So sometime between 01:00 and 09:00 today.
[18:50] <Mech0z> k1l_ can that be changed?
[18:50] <Ronalds_M> hello
[18:50] <Ronalds_M> :>
[18:50] <k1l_> Mech0z: you can use ppa-purge for removing the ppa and the ppa-packages
[18:51] <Emanon> Muphrid: But it's being detected it just refuses to stay selected.
[18:51] <Ronalds_M> can I make programms open and show on top of the dock in unity?
[18:51] <Emanon> I'll try changing ports, hold on.
[18:51] <Ronalds_M> it could be a nice tweak
[18:52] <Emanon> Changing ports did nothing.
[18:52] <Mech0z> k1l_ does that mean that sabnzbdplus will be removed if I do that (The app, not the ppa)
[18:54] <Emanon> +1 for Ronalds_M We need to be able to make apps overlap the top bar.
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm
[18:55] <Ronalds_M> it could be nice, if new programms would show up in top, not where you need to search them
[18:55] <k1l_> Mech0z: yes. that removes the ppa packages aswell
[18:55] <TopGear> Hi there.
[18:56] <k1l_> Mech0z: but sabnzbdplus is in the official ubuntu sources
[18:56] <TopGear> Someone with conky knowledge?
[18:57] <bazhang> TopGear, read the ubuntuforums wiki on it?
[18:57] <Muphrid> Emanon: can you give a screen capture of the selection dialog?
[18:57] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows with proprieties I can render a video on PiTiVi to run properly in a Nokia 5130c?
[18:57] <WeThePeople> idk what i did but ubuntu 12.04 wants to mount the cd rom first, i have to press s to skip, how do i remove this prompt?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | TopGear
[18:58] <Emanon> Muphrid: Sure, sec.
[18:58] <bazhang> CrazyGangster, try handbrake to convert it
[18:58] <WeThePeople> topgear, do you want to edit things?
[18:58] <SecretFire> is it true that virii don't effect linux?
[18:59] <bazhang> !virus | SecretFire
[18:59] <TopGear> Alright.
[18:59] <SecretFire> I thought so
[18:59] <TopGear> Well, I want to monitor the diskusage of an entire harddrive, but how do I do that? /dev/sda, /sda, /hda doesn't work in Conky.
[18:59] <Muphrid> SecretFire: as long as you stay in the repository and do not run obscure shell scripts if find on random websites
[19:00] <Walex> TopGear: 'df'?
[19:00] <Muphrid> but you need to play an active role for it to affect you
[19:00] <CrazyGangster> bazhang: I will try but in that way i have to render the same video 2times, right?
[19:00] <SecretFire> the reason I ask
[19:00] <Muphrid> you dont get anything simply by browsing the web
[19:00] <Mech0z> k1l_ I cant seem to install ppa-purge due to the same issue
[19:00] <SecretFire> is because my friend had problems with windows having trojan so I formatted and installed xubuntu but they think the virus is still there
[19:00] <Muphrid> Mech0z: then temporarily remove all these packages and reinstall if possible
[19:00] <Mech0z> any other way I can remove it?
[19:01] <bazhang> SecretFire, did you have an ubuntu support issue question?
[19:01] <TopGear> Walex: How did you think of doing that?
[19:01] <Mech0z> how
[19:01] <Muphrid> either via synaptic or by apt-get purge package1 package2 package3 ... packagen
[19:01] <Emanon> Muphrid: http://i.imgur.com/yg0E8.jpg
[19:01] <SecretFire> has anyone got openmw to run? I can't seem to find a working version of it
[19:01] <bazhang> SecretFire, if you formatted and overwrote the partition, then installed ubuntu/xubuntu it cannot still be there
[19:02] <SecretFire> bazhang : I know that, but they don't :)
[19:02] <SecretFire> lol
[19:02] <bazhang> SecretFire, what is openmw
[19:02] <SecretFire> open source implementation of morrowind
[19:02] <SecretFire> elder scrolls
[19:02] <bazhang> SecretFire, lets stay on topic please to actual support
[19:03] <Emanon> Muphrid: It detects it, even allows the in-line volume control works but flat refuses to use it as a source.
[19:03] <Ronalds_M> anybody runs CS 1.6 on widescrean with wine?
[19:03] <Ronalds_M> :D
[19:04] <Emanon> Well, not "inline" per se but on ear.
[19:07] <Muphrid> Emanon: see if the package 'pavucontrol' is of any help
[19:07] <Muphrid> your issue is weird
[19:08] <Tex_Nick> Ronalds_M : your question needs to be more specific ... also note that wine has a support channel #winehq
[19:09] <Ronalds_M> @Tex_Nick tnx
[19:11] <Emanon> Muphrid: Pavu displays my headset in the configuration tab but nowhere else.
[19:12] <Emanon> Everywhere else it's just my built-in audio and my hdmi audio out.
[19:13] <D_Russ> k1l: no luck with gparted live
[19:13] <D_Russ> it still wont allow me to expand it
[19:13] <D_Russ> and there is no option for unmount on rightclick
[19:14] <Muphrid> Emanon: also check gnome-alsamixer then
[19:14] <Muphrid> otherwise I have no clue lol
[19:14] <D_Russ> can someone please tell me how to reclaim the space i created when deleting the windows partition?? i ran the live secure disk with osreover and when i try to expand my ubuntu partition with gparted it will not allow me to go larger but i have 660gb available of unused disk space
[19:14] <D_Russ> gparted live isnt working
[19:14] <D_Russ> for me anyway
[19:16] <Emanon> gnome-alsamixer displays a "USB Mixer" but no option to select it as the input/output source.
[19:18] <Emanon> I guess when I finish wiping my portable drive I'll reboot and hope that works.
[19:19] <Emanon> Any ideas for forcing wine and Steam to open on the display I want it to or should I just go to #winehq and #steam (or whatever steam support is)?
[19:19] <D_Russ> you dont need wine for steam anymore
[19:19] <D_Russ> there is a linux version
[19:19] <Emanon> I'm not using steam through wine.
[19:19] <D_Russ> ohh ok
[19:19] <Emanon> I'm having similar problems on both steam AND wine
[19:20] <D_Russ> sorry cant help you with that
[19:21] <Emanon> Maybe I can do something in the compiz window controll extension.
[19:23] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : #steamlug is probably the best channel for steam
[19:23] <Emanon> Thanks I'll try there after I'm done futzing with Compiz.
[19:24] <Emanon> Doesn't look like Compiz has an option to force certain applications to certain monitors at will.
[19:25] <termitor> hi
[19:25] <termitor> what is this bug http://pastebin.com/VfF032Db ?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> termitor: are you using btrfs?
[19:27] <D_Russ> can someone please tell me how to reclaim the space i created when deleting the windows partition?? i ran the live secure disk with osreover and when i try to expand my ubuntu partition with gparted it will not allow me to go larger but i have 660gb available of unused disk space
[19:27] <ThinkT510> termitor: it is still experimental, you shouldn't be using it in production environments
[19:28] <ichat> does any one know if  you specially need  the 64bit version of ubuntu to run on an EFI  based notebook?
[19:28] <termitor> ThinkT510: it's btrfs,not the disk you think ?
[19:29] <ThinkT510> termitor: i can't tell sorry, but i wouldn't be surprised
[19:31] <Tex_Nick> ichat : bios runs beneath the OS & doesn't care if the OS is 32 or 64
[19:31] <Basil1x> Ubuntu12.04LTS... my Laptop's sound cuts out after a bit.  Sound through the HDMI port is unaffected, but the internal speakers quit.  Is there anything I can do to restore it?  I do not want to have to reinstall Ubuntu again.
[19:32] <joseluisc020> hello
[19:32] <dufa> hello
[19:35] <Emanon> Muphrid: Rebooting fixed the audio issue.
[19:36] <Muphrid> Emanon: alright, probably a module unloaded
[19:36] <Emanon> That's pretty lame of the module.
[19:36] <ichat> Tex_Nick:  - that wasnt my exact question...   my question was,  can you boot the 32bit iso of a  efi based system...  because it requires a diferent  {boot]  file... from a  legacy... for example  other  doesn  include efi boot on its 32bit  iso...
[19:37] <Emanon> Wine is still acting stupid. Guess I'll go talk to them.
[19:37] <b33nj> hi
[19:38] <Basil1x> nevermind... gonna switch to Fedora
[19:38] <b33nj> Basilx
[19:38] <Tex_Nick> ichat : sorry, someone else will have to help you with that :)
[19:39] <b33nj> hi
[19:41] <ichat> Tex_Nick:  not a problem... - thanks for trying anyway...
[19:41] <ichat> ill just have to download both and try...
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> hello
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> i have a question
[19:42] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: you better ask it then
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> how can i install gnome?
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[19:43] <Gnome-Help> there stand Take GNOME 3.6 for a test drive
[19:43] <ThinkT510> !notunity | Gnome-Help
[19:43] <b33nj> ThinkT510, hi
[19:43] <Gnome-Help> butt there is also another version of gnome
[19:43] <ThinkT510> b33nj: hi
[19:43] <Gnome-Help> when you click "Download the live image"
[19:43] <b33nj> ThinkT510: suggest me a movie to watch
[19:44] <ThinkT510> b33nj: you are in the wrong channel
[19:44] <joey8> hey guys - what is the name of the command to display computer information. the name is like "inxi" or something. thx
[19:44] <ThinkT510> b33nj: this is ubuntu support
[19:44] <ThinkT510> joey8: lspci?
[19:44] <b33nj> ThinkT510: suggest me a book about linux commands to read
[19:44] <joey8> ThinkT510➤ ah ok thanx
[19:44] <yeats> b33nj: got an ubuntu support question?
[19:45] <ThinkT510> b33nj: try asking in ##linux
[19:45] <rust_> Hello?
[19:45] <b33nj> yeats: suggest me a book about linux commands
[19:45] <yeats> !ot | b33nj
[19:45] <ThinkT510> !terminal | b33nj
[19:45] <ThinkT510> !manual | b33nj
[19:45] <DJones> b33nj: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:46] <agronholm> does anyone know why the Xorg process has a habit of going into a busy-waiting cycle where it consumes a lot (13-40%) CPU even when the user is not doing anything?
[19:46] <agronholm> rebooting helps temporarily
[19:46] <b33nj> DJones, no
[19:46] <rust_> Hey, my ubuntu randomly stopped working, and said something about Minimal bash line editing. What is this?
[19:47] <Gnome-Help> @ubottu click on the gnome site to "Download th elive image"
[19:47] <veryhappy> what's best? what's newer? what's faster? mbr or gpt with uefi?
[19:47] <b33nj> help, irssi says cannot send to channel
[19:47] <Sling> b33nj: we can see you fine
[19:47] <b33nj> Sling: in #linux channel
[19:47] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: if you want gnome3 with gnome-shell then do: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[19:48] <Sling> b33nj: register with nickserv in order to speak there
[19:48] <Gnome-Help> no i dont want
[19:48] <ThinkT510> b33nj: you need a registered nick
[19:48] <Sling> some channels have that measure against spam
[19:48] <Sling> see /msg nickserv register htlp
[19:48] <yeats> !freenode | b33nj
[19:48] <Sling> s/htlp/help/
[19:48] <Gnome-Help> when i click on there it download gnome-3.6.0.iso
[19:48] <Gnome-Help> how can i install this version?
[19:48] <rust_> Hey, my Ubuntu stopped working and now ir says something about Bash line editing, can someone helo me?
[19:48] <b33nj> okay
[19:48] <antoniocetera> hello
[19:48] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: thats not how you install things
[19:49] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: that is an iso you burn to a disk and boot off
[19:49] <Gnome-Help> i use unet.... then it runs on a usb stick
[19:49] <Gnome-Help> but how can i run it on the harddrive
[19:49] <Gnome-Help> from usb to harddrive
[19:49] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: thats got nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:49] <veryhappy> Gnome-Help: you should use syslinux
[19:49] <yeats> Gnome-Help: install Ubuntu
[19:50] <Gnome-Help> syslinux?
[19:50] <yeats> then install gnome-shell
[19:50] <Gnome-Help> but what is when i want to install this....is this possible?
[19:50] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: no
[19:50] <Gnome-Help> it is a demo?! of gnome
[19:51] <Gnome-Help> i wnat to install this on the harddrive
[19:51] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: then ask the guys you got it from, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:51] <yeats> Gnome-Help: this is where you ask about Gnome: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels#List_of_IRC_Channels
[19:51] <DJones> Gnome-Help: The iso you are downloading is another operating system, not something you install on Ubuntu
[19:51] <Gnome-Help> ok
[19:51] <Gnome-Help> i thought the linux installation is always the same :)
[19:52] <bekks> Gnome-Help: The installation process differs for every linux distribution.
[19:53] <Gnome-Help> thanks for help
[19:53] <Gnome-Help> bye
[19:54] <enneract> how does a LVM with multiple discs handle one disc failing?
[19:54] <rust_> Hey. Can someone help me with this? My ubuntu isnt working and it just says it supports minimal bash coding. Can someone help?
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: What do you need help with?
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> enneract: Your data is preserved on the backup you made.
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> !lvm | enneract is this useful?
[19:56] <rust_> Jhitchins_wk: I booted up my ubuntu, and all it says is that it supports minimal bash line editing. Thats it, and it wont let me use my OS.
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: Why not?  Does it not have a login prompt?
[19:57] <yeats> rust_: that's BusyBox (the emergency shell) - there should have been an error message before it threw you in there
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: Ah yes, that's where that comes up...  Need to pay attention to the error messages.
[19:58] <rust_> Years: no error message. Thats it. J
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: Do you get the grub bootmenu?
[19:58] <ThinkT510> !tab | rust_
[19:59] <rust_> None of those tab commands let me use my  OS.
[20:00] <rust_> Jhutchins_wk: even the one that said boot said I needed to load the kernel first
[20:00] <ThinkT510> rust_: sorry, it looked as if you were typing people's nicks by hand
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: You are not giving us enough information for us to be able to help you.
[20:02] <bekks> rust_: What happens when you reboot your pc, and trying to boot boot Ubuntu. Please be as detailed as possible.
[20:03] <rust_> Jhutchins_wk: all it is is a black screen with white text, saying that "Minimal Bash Like editing is supported" then says I get commands with tab.
[20:03] <rust_> Thinkt510: I am typing these by hand, I dont have a tab key because I am using my phone.
[20:04] <ThinkT510> rust_: ah
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: It doesn't just pop up with that line when you turn it on.  Something happens before then.
[20:05] <Motoservo> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto a stick drive as a dual boot for my mac. I'm following the directions but after copying over the .img the stick dismounts as "unreadable" and diskutil list shows that the stick changes from type DOS FAT32 to "0x17". Anybody have any suggestions?
[20:05] <bekks> Motoservo: How do you "copy over the .img"?
[20:06] <rust_> bekks: when I boot up my pc, it lets me choose between windows and Ubuntu. Next it blinks by a screen saying NTF5: No wubildr.
[20:07] <bekks> rust_: So you are using WUBI. Thats a VERY important information.
[20:07] <rust_> Bekks: then it takes me to the GNU GRUB screen.
[20:07] <bekks> rust_: And basically, something is really messed up - I never used Wubi - but it looks like something messed up a file on your windows filesystem.
[20:08] <Motoservo> bekks: sudo dd if=~/Desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[20:08] <Tex_Nick> Motoservo : arethe directions from here ,,, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:08] <Motoservo> Tex_Nick: Those are the directions I followed.
[20:08] <bekks> Motoservo: Whats that "/dev/disk1" thing?
[20:09] <Motoservo> It doesn't matter what format the stick is when I start: HFS or DOS, it ends up something else.
[20:09] <rust_> bekks: I had lent my computer to my father, and he said it Windows ran a chkdsk. Do you think that might be it?
[20:09] <Motoservo> I tried of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m and of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[20:10] <bekks> rust_: chkdsk doesnt mess up files. Something happened, and that file is messed up, deleted, whatever.
[20:10] <Motoservo> Seems those were my two options.
[20:11] <rust_> bekks: I called and asked my father about it, he said all it did was say it deleted corrupted files.
[20:11] <Lartza> To create a htpasswd for Digest mode what parameters should I use?
[20:11] <bekks> rust_: That could have been the result of a filesystem corruption - and that file got corrupted and was deleted.
[20:12] <mike_papa> I have scanner (all in one device hp 3055) connected to raspberrypi with sane working there. scanimage is working locally. Now I want to set up sane on Ubuntu to use scanner shared by raspberry. Raspberry seems to have everything ok. I can telnet it on 6566, but Ubuntu does not find scanner. dll.conf has only "net" in it, and "net.conf" has only raspberry's ip.
[20:13] <rust_> Bekks: I guess I have to uninstall and Reinstall ubuntu?
[20:13] <mike_papa> Any ideas what can be wrong?
[20:13] <bekks> rust_: I'd not use WUBI at all, but create a dualboot with a natively installed Ubuntu.
[20:15] <rust_> Bekks: If that involves a disk, I cant do that because I am using a netbook without a disk drive.
[20:15] <ThinkT510> rust_: use a usb
[20:15] <bekks> rust_: So where is that Windows installed onto?
[20:15] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:16] <Motoservo> bekks: Does that "/dev/disk1" part seem off? What seems off about it: path? syntax?
[20:16] <rust_> Bekks: windows came preinstalled on my netbook
[20:16] <bekks> rust_: And it is installed onto what....? Yes, a harddisk.
[20:17] <bekks> Motoservo: Never seen Mac OSX device paths until now :)
[20:17] <ThinkT510> !usb | rust_
[20:17] <Motoservo> bekks: Ah.
[20:17] <goddard> how can i remove duplicate entries in my apt sources?
[20:17] <mike_papa> bekks: he meant cd-rom drive
[20:17] <mike_papa> i guess
[20:18] <bekks> mike_papa: There is no windows live cd, so you must be wrong.
[20:18] <ThinkT510> bekks: he meant he can't install ubuntu via cd
[20:18] <rust_> ThinkT510: thats exactly what I meant,
[20:18] <bekks> ThinkT510: He has an installed windows, he installed WUBI, and that WUBI installation is messed up.
[20:18] <bekks> Thats the facts,
[20:19] <bekks> So I am asking: where is that windows installed onto, if not on a harddisk?
[20:19] <Muphrid> goddard: either in synaptic (i think) or manually editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:19] <ThinkT510> bekks: please re-read what rust_ has typed
[20:20] <mike_papa> anyway you don't really need cd rom drive to install ubuntu. It works same if you install it from usb. It even works pretty nice installed on usb.
[20:20] <bekks> ThinkT510: I've elaborated those facts with him. :)
[20:20] <dufa> Motoservo: the path /dev/disk1 should be just right
[20:20] <jrib> goddard: you have to check /etc/apt/sources.list as well as files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:21] <ThinkT510> rust_: use a usb to install ubuntu
[20:21] <rust_> Bekks: The Windows was preinstalled on my Acer Aspire One Netbook.
[20:21] <itry> Hello! When I watch flash videos in firefox or chrome, at first everything is ok, but after 10 minutes the video always starts to stutter. Any ideas why and how to fix this?
[20:21] <bekks> rust_: And it is or was installed onto WHAT...? Onto which device? If not a harddisk?
[20:21] <Muphrid> itry: install the flash-aid ff addon
[20:21] <goddard> jrib: im surprised it doesn't remove duplicates automatically
[20:22] <goddard> jrib: can't apt-get find and remove them? it detected them.
[20:22] <jrib> goddard: I don't know
[20:22] <rust_> Bekks: I dont fucking know, where do preinstalled Operating systems go when you get your computer?
[20:22] <bekks> rust_: On a harddisk.
[20:22] <IdleOne> rust_, Please no swearing in here
[20:23] <rust_> ThinkT510: How do I do that?
[20:23] <ThinkT510> bekks: rust_ was trying to tell you he has no cd-drive (not no harddrive)
[20:23] <mike_papa> rust_: and if you just want to play with it, and don't care about speed that much, just install Ubuntu on at least average fast, 4 GB usb drive, and boot computer from usb. This way you will avoid messing up your windows if something goes wrong on partition changes.
[20:23] <rust_> IdleOne: ok. Sorry.
[20:23] <ThinkT510> !usb | rust_
[20:23] <nino_> itry: try using the about:flags option in Google Chrome
[20:24] <itry> Muphrid: looks like this thing installs a new flash version. would prefer to do it manually so i know whats going on.
[20:24] <osfinder> hello
[20:24] <nino_> There is a option that you can disable one flash plugin
[20:24] <rust_> mike_papa: I very much care about speed.
[20:24] <nino_> With a wrong version
[20:24] <osfinder> can someone help me with a crazy problem
[20:24] <itry> nino_: about:flags gives me a white page. (im using chromium)
[20:24] <nino_> why not the official one?
[20:24] <dufa> osfinder: go ahead, state the problem
[20:25] <osfinder> can someone answer my difficult question?
[20:25] <bekks> rust_: Then install Ubuntu as a dualboot, it will be faster than every USB stick.
[20:25] <osfinder> which os does he use?
[20:25] <osfinder> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HgyStstIhw
[20:25] <osfinder> can someone say me what he is using
[20:25] <mike_papa> rust_: then install it on hard drive. Download image, google how to "burn" it to bootable usb, and you're set.
[20:25] <rust_> bekks:  how do
[20:25] <rust_> I do that?
[20:25] <nino_> itry do you use wubi or what?
[20:26] <goddard> does anyone know how to remove duplicate apt get sources with the command line?
[20:26] <nino_> apt-get clean of manually
[20:26] <itry> nino_: what is wubi?
[20:26] <nino_> *or*
[20:26] <bekks> rust_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot  -- wait a few minutes, the servers having problems currently.
[20:26] <nino_> Itry: that is a test version of ubuntu that runs in windows
[20:26] <mike_papa> rust_ : just be careful! You will need to change your partitions' sizes. You may loose everything from your computer if something goes wrong. Even pre-installed windows, and it's recovery option.
[20:26] <osfinder> IN windows?!
[20:26] <bekks> nino_: Thats no test version. Thats a full installation.
[20:27] <nino_> You can test your hardware and feeling about ubuntu in Wubi
[20:27] <rust_> By the way, to everyone helping me, I have been using Ubuntu for months without a problem.
[20:27] <BluesKaj> goddard, use nano in the termianl to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ...look for duplicate entries
[20:27] <rust_> Intil now that is,
[20:27] <itry> nino_: just noticed, this is a debian 6 box, not ubuntu.
[20:27] <osfinder> sorry but can some one help me..........i know its a crazy question
[20:27] <rust_> Itry: this is ubuntu
[20:27] <[snake]> osfinder, what is it?
[20:27] <goddard> There has to be a way for apt-get to remove them
[20:27] <osfinder> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HgyStstIhw
[20:27] <goddard> it detects them
[20:27] <nino_> Bekks you are right but its not better then stand alone version or duel boot
[20:28] <ThinkT510> osfinder: he is in some linux distro that uses compiz
[20:28] <nino_> So i call it a test machine os
[20:28] <osfinder> what os does the youtube guy use?
[20:28] <razvan> hello, I removed apache install directory by mistake, and I tried to remove the package and install it again, but when i do that, it says that package is already installed, even if I did an apt-get remove apache2. I am using ubuntu 12.04. Can you tell me what to do ?
[20:28] <tozen> ThinkT510: +100
[20:28] <osfinder> "he is in some linux distro that uses compiz"?????!!!
[20:28] <bekks> nino_: Which is wrong. ;) It needs a windows, that all.
[20:28] <[snake]> osfinder, some distribution of GNU/Linux
[20:28] <jrib> razvan: what did you remove exactly?
[20:29] <tozen> osfinder: yes
[20:29] <dufa> osfinder: it's impossible to tell which distro he is running, they're so customizable and many
[20:29] <osfinder> "GNU/Linux" i know but what distro?
[20:29] <[snake]> osfinder, you can use ubuntu for it I bet
[20:29] <Muphrid> osfinder: looks like ubuntu 10.10
[20:29] <nino_> ye but its not better then stand alone or dualboot Bekks
[20:29] <[snake]> We'll go with Muphrid 's answer osfinder
[20:29] <linuxthefish> hi, how can i install software from a live USB with persistance enabled?
[20:29] <[snake]> ubuntu 10.10
[20:29] <linuxthefish> apt-get shows no such package, and apt-get update dosn't do anything
[20:29] <bekks> nino_: Which doesnt magically convert it into a "test os"?
[20:30] <tozen> osfinder: probably sone debian kind distro with compiz
[20:30] <jrib> linuxthefish: what does "dosn't do anything" mean exactly?
[20:30] <rust_>  Bekks: the site you sent me says it needs a disk. I dont have a CD drive.
[20:30] <nino_> Well what is it then? You cant say really that it works perfectly
[20:30] <mike_papa> And maybe anyone knows how to deal with my SANE problem? Server seems to work fine, nothing blocks connection (I can telnet it on 6566), but client does not find any scanner.
[20:30] <linuxthefish> "Reading packages lists... done"
[20:30] <linuxthefish> then it's finished
[20:31] <nino_> Its slower then a full stand alone of dualboot version Bekks
[20:31] <nino_> *or8
[20:31] <nino_> *
[20:31] <jrib> !who | linuxthefish
[20:31] <jrib> linuxthefish: what are you trying to install?
[20:31] <linuxthefish> jrib: sshd
[20:31] <linuxthefish> apache2 dosn't work either
[20:32] <jrib> linuxthefish: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:32] <bekks> nino_: Yes. But it still is a full blown Ubuntu install, and not a test OS. Because of the windows requirement, nobody actually wants to support it, but thats OT ;)
[20:32] <rust_> Bekks: the site you sent me says I need a CD drive. As I told you earlier, I have no CD drive.
[20:32] <CoreyBR> hello guys
[20:32] <CoreyBR> :)
[20:32] <CoreyBR> good afternoon
[20:32] <linuxthefish> jrib: "Package "openssh-server" has no instalation candidate" :S
[20:32] <tozen> CoreBR: loevening
[20:33] <nino_> Ok Bekks you are right its not a test OS but its not better then stand alone of dualboot
[20:33] <jrib> linuxthefish: pastebin the output from "sudo apt-get update" and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <bekks> rust_: Then your one and only chance is using an installation on an USB stick.
[20:33] <tozen> CoreBR: lol evening
[20:33] <linuxthefish> ok
[20:33] <serp_> !who | CoreyBR
 try this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:33] <rust_> Bekks: Im just going to use Wubi again.
[20:33] <rust_> Bye.
[20:33] <bekks> nino_: It is the SAME, it isnt better. It just requires Windows, which introduces a lot more problems than you want.
[20:34] <nino_> Ye thats the problem with wubi
[20:34] <linuxthefish> jrib: i get "cat: /etc/apt/sources.list: Input/output error"
[20:34] <nino_> i dont like it at all
[20:34] <osfinder> so does someone kknow what os the guy used?
[20:34] <nino_> And i'm wondering wy they introduced it
[20:35] <ThinkT510> osfinder: why does it matter so much?
[20:35] <nino_> OSfinder: Do you mean Itry?
[20:35] <osfinder> no i mean all persons here
[20:35] <mike_papa> rust_: first thing on google after typing "install ubuntu from usb" answers most of your questions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:35] <bazhang> osfinder, dont poll
[20:35] <osfinder> :(
[20:36] <bazhang> osfinder, this is ubuntu support
[20:36] <ThinkT510> mike_papa: he left
[20:36] <mike_papa> ThinkT510: Yeah. I missed it. I was on google for 3 seconds then ;)
[20:37] <osfinder> i thank all bye
[20:37] <nino_> Bye
[20:38] <jrib> linuxthefish: well that's probably not good
[20:39] <NazguL`> my mouse cursor disapear when i'm on menu options or icons how i can fix it?
[20:39] <linuxthefish> oh
[20:39] <linuxthefish> should i just reinstall ubuntu live on my usb?
[20:40] <varikonniemi> you should install in the first place...
[20:40] <media-centre> hallo anyone here
[20:41] <ikonia> yes
[20:41] <media-centre> ive some games working on windows
[20:41] <media-centre> and the next step is playing them online
[20:41] <tozen> media-centre: state the problem
[20:41] <media-centre> how do go about doing that
[20:42] <ThinkT510> media-centre: this is ubuntu support
[20:42] <mike_papa> media-center: you're asking for what? How to play online games on windows?
[20:42] <media-centre> so where do i go to get game server support
[20:42] <bazhang> ##windows media-centre
[20:42] <media-centre> yea
[20:43] <CoreyBR> lol i'm a lot confused in linux
[20:43] <CoreyBR> @_@
[20:43] <mike_papa> media-center: this game support?
[20:43] <CoreyBR> reading a lot of guides here but still strange
[20:43] <MFen> can someone suggest some ways to install ubuntu if i don't have a blank dvd around?
[20:43] <bazhang> media-centre, thats the channel, go there
[20:43] <bazhang> MFen, usb stick for one
[20:43] <MFen> i have a windows 8 machine here that i need to wipe and put ubuntu onto
[20:43] <mike_papa> MFen: USB stick, network...
[20:43] <ikonia> !install | MFen
[20:43] <media-centre> i know their are some windows games out their that have linux server support
[20:43] <MFen> what's the smallest usb stick that would work?
[20:43] <media-centre> so guessing that
[20:44] <bazhang> media-centre, how is this connected to ubuntu
[20:44] <media-centre> ok thanx
[20:44] <ikonia> media-centre: what do you want to know ?
[20:44] <media-centre> how i can get some of my games to play online
[20:44] <holly_molly> hello there
[20:44] <bazhang> media-centre, and how is this related to Ubuntu?
[20:45] <media-centre> its using linux servers
[20:45] <ikonia> media-centre: what OS are you running the games on ?
[20:45] <media-centre> windows
[20:45] <holly_molly> please wine vs vbox?
[20:45] <bazhang> media-centre, thats not an ubuntu issue
[20:45] <media-centre> but some of them have linux server support
[20:45] <media-centre> not officially
[20:45] <ikonia> media-centre: ok, so the ##windows channel will teach you how to configure your windows machine to connect the games to the linux servers
[20:45] <mike_papa> MFen: I have ubuntu installed and working on 4GB stick. It's not fastest, but independent and portable.
[20:45] <media-centre> but
[20:45] <bazhang> media-centre, thats not on topic here
[20:45] <ThinkT510> holly_molly: depends
[20:45] <mrspinx> Hi Has anyone worked on a nexus 7
[20:46] <ikonia> media-centre: so if you type /join ##windows you'll join the ##windows channels and you can explain the problem to the windows team
[20:46] <media-centre> ok thanx
[20:46] <mike_papa> MFen: Installation will take same place as on DVD. Something around image file size.
[20:46] <bazhang> mrspinx, the ubuntu on nexus 7?
[20:46] <media-centre> ok thanx
[20:46] <MFen> mike_papa: bummer, i only have a 512MB stick here
[20:46] <MFen> i am reading this cd-less install procedure though. might work for me
[20:46] <dufa> MFen: if you only have a small one you can install usin the minimal version
[20:47] <CoreyBR> hello D:
[20:47] <Jordan_U> !minimal | MFen
[20:47] <mrspinx> yes I just flashed nexus 7 with the core installer
[20:47] <media-centre> by the way whats this shit going round about microsoft bring out boot restricted laptops and pcs
[20:47] <mike_papa> MFen: Then you can use it for network installation. I did it once at work.
[20:47] <ikonia> mrspinx: #ubuntu-arm has some guys using the nexus platform
[20:47] <dufa> MFen: the minimal iso is only 30 MB
[20:47] <dufa> MFen: you can read about it over at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:48] <mrspinx> yea it seems quite in that channel
[20:48] <mike_papa> MFen: You need just tiny bootable usb stick, and rest will be downloaded from net during installation. I did it using my phone as stick actually. ;)
[20:49] <Sashmo> I want to encrypt a parttion on a hard drive, and then then when ubuntu boots, mount and decrypt it for usage.  So if someone physically removes the drive to gain access to it, they cant, because its encrypted.... Does any when know how to do this?
[20:49] <lenswipe> can someone help me get the webcam working on a 2007/2008 macbok
[20:49] <lenswipe> macbook*
[20:49] <MFen> mike_papa: what kind of phone?
[20:49] <MFen> dufa: awesome that will help
[20:50] <lenswipe> anyone able to help out at all?
[20:50] <lenswipe> if i open cheese it just shows a black screen or says "No Device" or whatever
[20:50] <mike_papa> MFen: I don't remember. It was Sony Xperia X1... doesn't matter. Most important was that it served it's memory card as regular usb stick. So I formatted it, "burned" minimal iso on it, and got myself ubuntu installer.
[20:52] <MFen> oh, you formatted it. no thanks then
[20:52] <mike_papa> MFen: And if you'd like to install Ubuntu on your phone, it's possible on Android. Complete Linux Installer from android market does it.
[20:52] <MFen> also no thanks. :)
[20:53] <mike_papa> MFen: Yeah. You need to make it bootable somehow. I had nothing important there, so it was easiest way to get rid of everything.
[20:53] <MFen> i'm going to try either the no-disk option or using the minimal disk on the stick that i have
[20:53] <lenswipe> can someone help at all?
[20:53] <lenswipe> anyone?
[20:54] <CoreyBR> what are the others channels of ubuntu here in freenode?
[20:55] <ThinkT510> !irc | CoreyBR
[20:56] <CoreyBR> ty ThinkT510
[20:56] <ikonia> !webcam | lenswipe
[20:56] <CoreyBR> !freenode
[20:57] <mike_papa> Is it just me, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat returns Internal Server Error (that will be... 500?)
[20:57] <lenswipe> ikonia: you misunderstand me
[20:58] <mike_papa> It works on http instead of https. You may want to correct link on script.
[20:58] <lenswipe> ikonia: Im having problems getting iSight to work
[20:58] <ThinkT510> mike_papa: works fine here
[20:58] <Flannel> mike_papa: it normally works fine with https; the wiki is having a bad day.
[20:58] <ikonia> lenswipe: islight is a mac app isn't it ?
[20:59] <mike_papa> Flannel: That explains a lot.
[20:59] <lenswipe> ikonia: wat?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> ikonia: iSight is what Apple calls their webcams (hardware).
[20:59] <ikonia> lenswipe: isn't isight a mac app ?
[20:59] <ikonia> ahh
[20:59] <lenswipe> ikonia: im running ubuntu on a macbook and having problems getting iSight (the webcam) to work
[20:59] <ikonia> lenswipe: ok, so the link I've given you shows you how to get webcams working in linux
[20:59] <ikonia> and listes supported cameras
[21:00] <ikonia> lists
[21:00] <lenswipe> ikonia: I know how to get webcams working in linux, what i'm less knowledgeable about is why the ubuntu website says iSight should work out of the box and it's not recognising it.
[21:00] <ikonia> lenswipe: what makes you think it's not recognising it ?
[21:01] <lenswipe> ikonia: the part where it says "NO DEVICE" when i open cheese
[21:01] <ikonia> lenswipe: so you know how to configure webcams....as you said. Have you checked the device nodes ?
[21:02] <lenswipe> ikonia: the device "nodes" ?!
[21:02] <ikonia> lenswipe: yes, the device files for the device you want to use
[21:03] <jrib> lenswipe: what ubuntu version are you using?
[21:03] <lenswipe> jrib: It was precise
[21:03] <lenswipe> jrib: I just upgraded to Quantal
[21:03] <lenswipe> (12.10)
[21:04] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name"?
[21:04] <Motoservo> have any of you guy setup Ubuntu on a stick for Mac OS X before?
[21:05] <andrude> having trouble with an rnx mini1 connections
[21:05] <brady2600> ok so , im using filezilla and i want to set my default text editor
[21:05] <brady2600> i normally used windows in the past, so i would normally browse to the programs folder
[21:06] <brady2600> but uhh.... where do i look for my bluefish editor?
[21:06] <andrude> I have read several forums and the the minin1 uses the realtek 8188cus chipset
  one way to open it that will work hold down ctrl alt and press "t"
[21:06] <tozen> brady2600: /usr/share ?
 type bluefish press enter that will open it
[21:07] <brady2600> no but im trying to assign the editor in filezilla
[21:07] <brady2600> meaning i would have to navigate folders to it
[21:07] <andrude> the default driver rtl8192 doesn't work sees the network but won't connect
[21:08] <tozen> brady2600: add /home there is aal settings included
[21:08] <Motoservo> I have a choice of either Windows or Linux. This Ubuntu is hosing my stick every time I copy it over. Guess that leaves another distro, or Windows. Something tells me it will be worth it to just pay for Windows and be done with it.
[21:08] <tozen> *all
[21:08] <lenswipe> jrib: sorry - I just saw your message
[21:08] <lenswipe> jrib: leme get on tat for you
[21:08] <brady2600> i see the bluefish folder in /user/share, but i dont see the application
[21:09] <asoltys> hi, I have a VPS running maverick that I want to do a release upgrade on.  I guess since 10.10 is EOL I get 404 errors from apt-get when trying to install update-manager-core.  How can I install the upgrade tool if the apt repositories aren't available anymore?
[21:09] <lenswipe> jrib: MacBook2,1
[21:10] <tozen> brady2600: the best way is to use PING fron liveUSB more easy and friendly
[21:10] <brady2600> huh?
[21:10] <Kalashnikov> does ubuntu support multi videocard and multi monitor setups out of the box or does it need to be configured?
[21:10] <brady2600> what does that have to do with where the bluefish application is located
[21:10] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, telling us you are going to install windows isn't going to help the support process here or hinder it for that matter ..tell us what your error is before complaining
[21:10] <brady2600> done see it in home either
[21:11] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "ls -l /dev/video0; lsusb"
[21:11] <jrib> lenswipe: (use a pastebin)
[21:11] <yeats> brady2600: try /usr/bin
[21:12] <brady2600> tozen: i think you replied to me , but intended someone else
[21:12] <tozen> brady2600: im trying to help exactly u
[21:12] <yeats> brady2600: also 'which bluefish'
[21:13] <brady2600> the bluefish editor i have installed on my ubunut
[21:13] <brady2600> ubuntu
[21:13] <Motoservo> BluesKaj: I did, earlier. Been working on this all morning. I've rebooted though and it's all lost from my IRC history. I'll go round it up...
[21:13] <yeats> brady2600: no, I mean type 'which bluefish' into the terminal
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> brady2600: Which is a command that will locate a binary if it's on your path.
[21:13] <brady2600> i need to navigate.. doing it though the terminal won't set it as the default editor in filezilla
[21:13] <brady2600> ahhh
[21:13] <lenswipe> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Ny87WERG
[21:13] <yeats> brady2600: you're trying to find it's location, no?
[21:14] <yeats> s/it's/its/
[21:14] <brady2600> yes i found it in user/bin
[21:14] <lorddelta> So has anyone attempted to shrink Ubuntu 12.10 iso to live *CD* sizes?
[21:14] <lorddelta> And would it be that difficult to do?
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> brady2600: finding the binary will make it easier to tell filezilla what to use.
[21:15] <tozen> bredy2600: i suggesting to use PING so u can get ur system fully backed up like an imege file
[21:15] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, rather than a usb stick do you have any blank dvds ,, they're easier to use in some cases
[21:15] <jrib> lenswipe: many releases ago, one had to do this manual procedure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleiSight .  Indeed I did that previously on my macbook 4,1.  So that may be why it works now.  However, on an imac desktop system, the camera does indeed just work.  Let me pastebin for you what I see related to the camera in each.
[21:15] <tozen> ohh
[21:15] <tozen> filezilla1!!!
[21:15] <lorddelta> Yeah DVD's are ubiquitous, but I have a stack of CD's lying around, and DVD's are hence more valuable. I'd be happy to burn a 2.3 GB Ubuntu DVD or something, but 800 MB is sparse...
[21:16] <tozen> sorry i thought clonezilla...im an idiot :D
[21:16] <lorddelta> Time/money is just as much a consideration for me as it is for an ubuntu dev.
[21:16] <Flannel> asoltys: You need to move your repositories to old-releases.ubuntu.com, that's where the EOL archives are, and you can get the latest update manager from that.
[21:16] <Motoservo> BluesKaj: My DVD Drive doesn't work. I'm trying to set this stick up for my mom so she can use a scanner that only supports Windows and Linux. Booting from a DVD to get into Linux won't be an option for us.
[21:17] <lenswipe> jrib: Yeah, I found that - problem is - I don't have an OSX install to get the files from
[21:17] <lorddelta> e.g. how would I go about building a (smaller) 12.10 distro from scratch?
[21:17] <lenswipe> the firmware that is
[21:17] <ikonia> lorddelta: you'd have to alter the build....which would make it a custom spin
[21:17] <ikonia> lorddelta: which would mean it's up to you to support / maintain it
[21:17] <lenswipe> jrib: the HDD has also been replaced in this macbook (it's my girlfriend's macbok(
[21:18] <lenswipe> macbook* sod this keyboad to hades
[21:18] <jrib> lenswipe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476896/  My understanding is that the manual procedure is no longer necessary.  Indeed, I have /lib/firmware/isight.fw on my macbook but no such file on the imac.  And both cameras work
[21:18] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, perhaps you could reveiew the method you used to put ubuntu on the usb stick , because it should boot if it was installed correctly
[21:18] <Motoservo> BluesKaj: I can't find the page on the Ubuntu site now but this is the same instructions, almost verbatim. http://blog.lewan.com/2012/02/10/making-a-bootable-usb-stick-on-an-apple-mac-os-x-from-an-iso/
[21:18] <Motoservo> I get as far as running the dd command.
[21:19] <lenswipe> jrib: so you think I might have the firmware _with_ ubuntu by default?
[21:19] <Motoservo> And then after running the command, the drive dismounts, I get an alert that it's not readable...
[21:19] <jrib> lenswipe: yes, for a while now, the camera should work out of the box
[21:19] <lorddelta> ikonia: ok, so what, just install uck?
[21:20] <Motoservo> …and it then shoes up as    1:0x17  789.9 MB   disk1s1 in the diskutil list command.
[21:20] <Ub0ntuN00b> hi
[21:20] <lorddelta> ikonia: or is it better to use an hg/git repo?
[21:20] <lenswipe> jrib: well it doesn't and I don't have /lib/firmware/isight
[21:20] <jrib> lenswipe: i'm looking for documentation on how :)  Yes, I don't have /lib/firmware/isight either.
[21:20] <Ub0ntuN00b> any one know a mysql gui client with code assist?
[21:20] <Motoservo> and then 0x17 is where it *used* to say DOS FAT32
[21:20] <lenswipe> jrib: got it - thanks :)
[21:21] <Kalashnikov> What do i have to do to set up 3 monitors connected to 2 video cards in ubuntu?
[21:21] <tozen> Motoservo: what command do u use and what do u trying to get?4
[21:21] <asoltys> Flannel: Thanks!
[21:21] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, I'm not well versed about linux on macs ...sorry for wasting time on this
[21:22] <ikonia> lorddelta: sorry, in respect to what ?
[21:22] <lorddelta> ikonia: easiest fastest way to remix ubuntu 12.10
[21:22] <Motoservo> tozen: sudo dd if=~/Desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[21:22] <jrib> lenswipe: following the manual way would probably make it work too
[21:22] <Motoservo> It's from the page on how to set up Ubuntu on a stick for Mac OS X.
[21:23] <lorddelta> I already have the ubuntu 12.10 image, so if I can just open it up in Archive manager and delete a binary image or two...
[21:23] <ikonia> it's not something I'd suggest doing, and unless I'm missunderstanding what you're asking I don't understand what you're relating git to in terms of remaking the image
[21:23] <lenswipe> jrib: except i dont have the firmware file
[21:23] <lenswipe> the .fw
[21:23] <ikonia> lorddelta: no, you should under no circumstances delete random things, plus the install CD is built on squash fs not an "archive"
[21:23] <jrib> lenswipe: you could install os x and grab it :)  I'm trying to figure out how to find what firmware is loaded on the imac
[21:23] <tozen> Motoservo: where's the problem is?
[21:23] <lenswipe> jrib: how do i install OSX?
[21:24] <ikonia> lorddelta: as you don't seem to understand how the actual CD images work I'd strongly advise you not to try to mess with it
[21:24] <lenswipe> jrib: there isn't a CD (afaik)
[21:24] <jrib> lenswipe: the macbooks (at least back then) come with OS X cds
[21:25] <lenswipe> jrib: ill go ask my gf (it's her macbook
[21:25] <Motoservo> tozen: After running that command the stick dismounts and I get an alert that it is unreadable. It is still recognized in diskutil list but where it said DOS FAT32 it will then say 0x17.
[21:25] <lorddelta> ikonia: yeah they've always been something of a mystery to me: so you're basically saying there exists no easy trick to remix from a distro release, I'd have to download some sources and 'build' the cd from scratch...i.e. a lot of work.
[21:25] <andrude> I have a rosewill RNX Mini n1 dongle that supposedly uses the rtl8192 module, I have read in other forums that I really need the rtl8188cus module but the 8192 loads by default. I have a copy of the 8188 diver but can't find the any modules listed in  cat /etc/modules.  I'm running 12.0 lts are the modules put somewhere else?
[21:26] <ikonia> lorddelta: unless you have a solid understanding of how it works and the implications of changes, it's not something I'd suggest doing
[21:26] <tozen> Motoservo: so what for do u type /dev/disk1 if u got usb?
[21:26] <andrude> 12.04 lts that is
[21:26] <Tex_Nick> 4598732
[21:26] <cmell> tozen, usb drives are still /dev/sdx
[21:26] <lorddelta> ikonia: if I do try something I'll probably just delete gimp or somesuch off of it, worst comes to worst i've got one less cd to waste
[21:26] <lorddelta> ikonia: thanks for your time
[21:27] <dufa> tozen: /dev/disk# is where macs put the usb-sticks
[21:27] <tozen> Motoservo: show blkid with usb inserted, please
[21:27] <ikonia> lorddelta: it's not that simple
[21:27] <Motoservo> tozen: That's the device node of the stick.
[21:27] <paperke68> How do I have to play a sound when a dowloaded torrent finishes with rtorrent ?
[21:27] <tozen> dufa:
[21:27] <tozen> dufa: macs??!!!
[21:28] <Motoservo> tozen: What command is that? It's not recognized on my bash.
[21:28] <Motoservo> blkid
[21:28] <lenswipe> jrib: reckon it's possible to grab it straight off the CD?
[21:28] <tozen> Motosrvo: what os do u use?
[21:28] <dufa> macs as in mac, macintosh
[21:28] <lenswipe> jrib: without an install
[21:28] <Motoservo> tozen: 10.7.5
[21:29] <tozen> Motoservo: ubuntu?
[21:29] <Motoservo> just downloaded Ubuntu 12.10
[21:29] <dufa> Motoservo was trying to create a live usb of ubuntu on a mac, wasnt he
[21:29] <XTry_XHack> pana?
[21:29] <Motoservo> dufa: Yes.
[21:30] <tozen> Motoservo: u r blowing up mi mind O_o
[21:30] <jrib> lenswipe: probably.  See that first paragraph on the wiki (it gives you the name of the file, its location, and even suggests you should be able to google for it...)
[21:30] <tozen> *my
[21:30] <MFen> any advice on dual-booting linux and windows, with an ssd drive involved?
[21:30] <MFen> the ssd drive is much smaller than the main disk, only 16GB
[21:31] <Motoservo> tozen: dufa Yes, trying to create a USB flash drive that I can boot to when I need to use Ubuntu instead of Mac OS X.
[21:31] <XTryXHack> pana
[21:32] <MFen> i'm thinking i'll install windows on the ssd drive if possible
[21:32] <tozen> Motoservo: does macs haven't any soft to burn image files on usb?
[21:32] <andrude> anyone?
[21:32] <riderplus> andrude what's your trouble?
[21:32] <andrude> I have a rosewill RNX Mini n1 dongle that supposedly uses the rtl8192 module, I have read in other forums that I really need the rtl8188cus module but the 8192 loads by default. I have a copy of the 8188 diver but can't find the any modules listed in  cat /etc/modules.  I'm running 12.0 lts are the modules put somewhere else?
[21:32] <ztgu> Does this script look ok? http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[21:33] <ztgu> anyone with experience on sleep and hibernation problem in linux?
[21:33] <Motoservo> That's a good tip. Disk Util will give me that option. I was fixated on following these command line instructions and forgot that option. Thanks.
[21:33] <andrude> 12.04 lts that is
[21:33] <cmell> MFen, ssd's aren't a good choice for windows, due to the swap file
[21:33] <paperke68> anyone ?
[21:33] <Motoservo> thanks, tozen: will let you know if it works.
[21:33] <lorddelta> ikonia: well archive manager does open up the iso, but yeah I guess I have to unpack everything twice, once for the squashfs, another time to rebuild a smaller squashfs - so I guess its me vs the clock.
[21:33] <MFen> cmell i just want to get the best performance out of the ssd. how should i set things up?
[21:33] <riderplus> andrude you have to install 8188 properly and blacklist the other one
[21:33] <tozen> Motoservo: dont mention, pal
[21:34] <lorddelta> ikonia: including whatever time I have to spend figuring out squashfs/my mistakes.
[21:34] <MFen> right now it's the default lenovo install of windows 8. i don't know how the disks are allocated, yet
[21:34] <andrude> riderplus : I can't find the modules to blacklist it
[21:35] <lorddelta> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization?
[21:35] <cmell> MFen, installing linux to the ssd is commonly done, because you don't need a swap partition if you have enough memory
[21:35] <MFen> well, it's windows that's slow to boot
[21:35] <andrude> I can see what's loaded with lsmod
[21:35] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules"?
[21:35] <riderplus> andrude lsmod | grep rtl*
[21:35]  * grep is away: PS3 or sleeping or something...
[21:35] <cmell> MFen, windows is designed to absorb all cpu time
[21:36] <MFen> what does that have to do with disk i/o
[21:36] <ztgu> Does this script look ok? http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[21:36] <cmell> MFen, it's slow because it's windows. it will always be slow no matter the drive you use
[21:37] <joey8> Hi. Does anyone know how to get the “document viewer” to be able to read plain text files please.
[21:37] <lenswipe> N: Unable to locate package linux-ubuntu N: Unable to locate package modules
[21:37] <lenswipe> jrib: ^
[21:37] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules"?
[21:37] <dufa> Motoservo: I wish I remembered how the process is done. I've installed ubuntu on two macs before, but I struggled creating the usb
[21:37] <dufa> on one of the machines the dvd drive was broken
[21:37] <MFen> cmell: honestly i don't think you're unbiased about this
[21:38] <ztgu> anyone with experience on sleep and hibernation problem in linux?
[21:38] <cmell> MFen, then go ahead, install windows to your ssf. see how long the ssd lasts
[21:38] <riderplus> ztgu tbh I haven't tried them yet :)
[21:39] <lenswipe> jrib:
[21:39] <lenswipe> N: Unable to locate package linux-ubuntu-module
[21:39] <riderplus> what DE are u using ztgu
[21:39] <lenswipe> jrib: i missed the last bit in the paste
[21:39] <dufa> Motoservo: It might be i actually opted for using an external dvd reader and installing from that. however, good luck, i'll be leaving
[21:39] <Motoservo> dufa: tozen I just tried to use the GUI tool Disk Utility but I'm getting an error "Could not validate source - Invalid argument". I'm thinking now the problem is my conversion of the iso to img.
[21:39] <andrude> riderplus: I have rtl8192cu, rtl8192_common,rtlwifi and rtlwifi mac80211
[21:39] <Motoservo> k, dufa. Preciate it.
[21:40] <jrib> lenswipe: I have to go shovel snow but there's some interesting (though outdated and probably of limited use to you now) information at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/185634
[21:40] <tozen> Motoservo: seems ur image is broken
[21:40] <lorddelta> ikonia: 5% uncompressed!
[21:40] <lorddelta> hoo boy
[21:40] <andrude> Where are modules listed so that I can find them? the old cat /etc/modules has no mods in it
[21:41] <lenswipe> jrib: right now im considering how much I would like to slap steve jobs and johnny ives
[21:41] <Motoservo> Do you know if there's a way to download Ubuntu from their site in a format other than iso?
[21:41] <riderplus> andrude so blacklist what you don't need
[21:41] <riderplus> I'm not sure /etc/modules is the right place to look into...
[21:41] <tozen> Motoservo: no idea, sorry4
[21:41] <andrude> there are no modules listed there
[21:41] <ThinkT510> andrude: lsmod will tell you what modules are loaded
[21:41] <cmell> /lib/modules (?)
[21:42] <andrude> how do I blacklist them from the command line
[21:42] <ztgu> riderplus: DE? tbh?
[21:42] <riderplus> Desktop Environment...to be honest
[21:42] <tozen> Motoservo: do u really think ur mac doesnt support iso files or what?
[21:42] <riderplus> that's DE and tbh
[21:42] <riderplus> andrude: google is your friend ;)
[21:43] <Motoservo> Not sure. I always thought they were windows related, I've only seen them on torrent sites--and they never worked.
[21:43] <andrude> I have done this before on earlier versions of Ubuntu but the same things don't work in 12.04
[21:43] <tozen> Motoservo: very starnge
[21:43] <tozen> *strange
[21:44] <andrude> I have been googling this problem for a week now
[21:44] <andrude> Most of the posts are pre 12.04
[21:44] <ThinkT510> !blacklist | andrude
[21:44] <riderplus> bingo
[21:45] <ztgu> riderplus: Linux mint 14 KDE
[21:45] <andrude> thank you ubottu
[21:45] <Motoservo> yeah, tozen, Disk Utility doesn't seem to know what to do with the iso.
[21:45] <ThinkT510> !mint | ztgu
[21:46] <ztgu> Does this script look ok? http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[21:46] <tozen> Motoservo: well i i have no idea about how to sort it out for me macs is like an darkness...
[21:46] <Motoservo> gotcha.
[21:47] <cmell> Motoservo, if you can find a port of cdrecord for your mac, you'd be able to use iso files. also, nero (if they have a mac version) can use iso files
[21:47] <Motoservo> thanks.
[21:48] <tozen> Motosrvo: if ull get it just let us know
[21:48] <tozen> just 4 expirience
[21:49] <studious> yooooooo
[21:49] <cmell> also, adaptec easy cd does have a mac version, and it can use iso files
[21:51] <lorddelta> Hmm well I don't need libreoffice...
[21:51] <ztgu> Libreoffice or openoffice guys?
[21:52] <tozen> libreoffice
[21:52] <cmell> personal preference
[21:52] <ThinkT510> ztgu: libreoffice is in the repos
[21:52] <ScottJensen> libre
[21:52] <ztgu> I like both
[21:52]  * OerHeks likes abiword
[21:52] <lorddelta> ztgu: definitely libre, I only meant on my dvd I'm trying to shrink to a livecd
[21:52] <mjayk> libre for me
[21:53] <cmell> why is a livecd better than a livedvd?
[21:53] <mjayk> purley caus i rarley use office and its in the reps (latex ftw)
[21:53] <mjayk> caus its smaller ;D
[21:55] <Surkow|laptop> so I have been experimenting some more in gnome session fallback. Compiz starts, but doesn't start rendering any window borders. No errors or anything.
[21:55] <lorddelta> cmell, yup, cause its smaller and I've got a stack of cd's I never use
[21:55] <Surkow|laptop> the only window manager that works right now is mutter
[21:59] <cmell> hmm, the last I looked dvd;s are exactly the same physical size as cd's
[21:59] <lorddelta> cmell?? CD are reliably 700 MB...
[21:59] <lorddelta> DVD's go up to 4GB
[21:59] <cmell> I said physical size
[22:00] <DrManhattan> 800mb
[22:00] <cmell> dvd discs are exactly the same diamter (physically) as a cd
[22:00] <lorddelta> cmell, sure, but they aren't as expensive
[22:01] <lorddelta> cmell, same goes for blu-ray
[22:01] <lorddelta> cmell, or dvd dl for that matter
[22:01] <MaxRebo> Hi, i just installed a graphics driver from the AMD support page on Ubuntu 12.10 and now pretty much anything graphics related is broken. My two external monitors don't get recognized anymore, i can't use native resolution etc. When I try to run the catalyst control center, it tells me no appropriate driver was found. Any idea how i can revert to the driver shipped with ubuntu?
[22:01] <cmell> if all discs are the same physical size, what benefit is cd for having less storage on it?
[22:02] <lorddelta> cmell, being cheaper
[22:02] <lorddelta> cmell, also, not having pointless discussions about dvd/cd size that ought to be had in #dvd
[22:03] <cmell> lorddelta, touche on that bit of trolling, bringing up the subject yourself, and then telling me it's OT
[22:04] <lorddelta> cmell, I was just being civil/chatty. I'm reducing an ubuntu dvd iso size...
[22:04] <crazybrain> can anyone tell me an alternative to Gwibber Social client???
[22:04] <lorddelta> excuse me for being on topic
[22:07] <hp420> can anyone help me get xfinity running on 12.10 64bit?
[22:07] <hp420> I have moonlight installed, but it still does not run videos
[22:07] <ThinkT510> hp420: i thought moonlight was abandoned
[22:08] <crazybrain> can anyone tell me an alternative to Gwibber Social client???
[22:09] <brian_the_droid> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> hp420: Unfortunately moonlight doesn't implement Silverlight DRM schemes, making it useless for most sited that use SilverLight.
[22:11] <brian_the_droid> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[22:11] <bekks> !anyone | brian_the_droid
[22:11] <brian_the_droid> i have no sound on ubuntu after installing a new sound card (creative sound blaster recon 3d) and I can't figure out why.
[22:12] <core_dumped> for starters is the hardware detected brian_the_droid
[22:13] <BluesKaj> brian_the_droid, did you set the default soundcard to pci in the bios?
[22:13] <brian_the_droid> yes, it plays in windows, it shows up in ubuntu, it seems to be configured okay, it shows it, but only as stereo
[22:13] <brian_the_droid> yes for bios
[22:13] <brian_the_droid> it calls it HDA creative in my sound settings
[22:13] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a game that doesn't work because it can't find a sound device. It has a config file with an entry for ALSA ("device = ALSA defaul"). Can anybody tell me what I'd need to replace that with if I want the game to use pulseaudio or oss?
[22:15] <riderplus> !pdasp | Mrokii
[22:16] <riderplus> oh know...
[22:16] <riderplus> Mrokii: google pdasp -s /dev/dsp
[22:16] <Mrokii> riderplus: Thanks, I will.
[22:17] <bandit-led> any one having problems accessing wikipedia.org with ubuntu?
[22:17] <riderplus> bandit-led: no
[22:17] <bekks> bandit-led: Works fine here.
[22:17] <bandit-led> :C
[22:17] <bandit-led> ty
[22:17] <riderplus> bandit-led: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> crazybrain  there are plenty twitter clients in the sofware center
[22:18] <bandit-led> or http://status.wikimedia.org/
[22:18] <riderplus> yeah...
[22:18] <haqe17> Hi, I put a cdrom into my laptop and burnt an .iso to it, but it wont eject now. How should I get it out?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> crazybrain  plenty = 3
[22:19] <crazybrain> MonkeyDust: i want something which also shows facebook and other social client feeds
[22:19] <riderplus> !eject
[22:20] <mike_papa> After 10 hours... guys, if you ever have a problem with saned working locally, and not working via network... check your scanner's group, and add saned user to this group.
[22:20] <riderplus> ubottu knows nothing about eject
[22:20] <riderplus> ubottu: lol
[22:20] <riderplus> ok loool
[22:20] <haqe17> riderplus: i tried the eject command, but it just says "eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[22:20] <haqe17> guess ill just try restart
[22:20] <riderplus> haqe17: weird
[22:21] <riderplus> can you check its mountpoint?
[22:21] <riderplus> haqe is gone..
[22:22] <biglinux> oi
[22:22] <riderplus> biglinux: that's not #punk channel
[22:23] <jn_> Anyone had problems with awstats not updating visits?
[22:24] <riderplus> !awstats
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> jn_  #ubuntu-server
[22:24] <riderplus> can someone update ubottu?
[22:25] <jn_> thanks
[22:30] <corvaxia> If I wanted access to my media files on my Ubuntu Desktop with my Android devices over wifi, is the best option creating an FTP server?
[22:30] <JoelTheMole> Would anyone be able to help me with an eMac, and Linux on it?
[22:31] <jrib> JoelTheMole: "eMac"?
[22:31] <Noskcaj> JoelTheMole, if it is powerpc please join #ubuntu-powerpc and talk to the mole
[22:31] <Noskcaj> jrib, the old all in ones
 u tried things like ubuntu one and googlemusic ?
[22:32] <JoelTheMole> Ok thanks Noskcaj, will do
[22:32] <jrib> Noskcaj: ah
[22:32] <corvaxia> I would rather not upload them to the cloud and then redownload them.
[22:33] <mjayk> samba shares?
[22:33] <riderplus> corvaxia: if you can handle a ftp server...
[22:34] <corvaxia> Honestly, I can't. I would rather find some more user friendly means of accessing my files over my home wireless network
[22:34] <corvaxia> I will learn more about FTP but only if I have to.
 have you used samba before ? to share folders.
[22:35] <riderplus> corvaxia: mjayk has just suggested something useful to you
[22:36] <montanha> Hey guys, I am having problems with a webcam that is not recognized by the system
[22:36] <corvaxia> Nope. But I will look into it.
[22:36] <bmercer> hello all
[22:36] <bmercer> oddest thing
[22:36] <montanha> Is this the right channel to discuss about it ?
[22:36] <ichat> corvaxia:  - are you just talkin about media files
[22:36] <riderplus> montanha: what do you mean it's not recognized?
[22:36] <bmercer> I have source code pro font installed and when I use it in gnome with compiz it looks great, when I use xfce (preferred) it looks fuzzy
[22:36] <riderplus> dmesg | tail
 possibly :)
[22:37] <corvaxia> ichat: Yes
[22:37] <ichat> corvaxia:  - in that case  you could stream them  to your devices...  via  minidlna for example
[22:37] <riderplus> montanha: pastebin your dmesg | tail
[22:38] <lorddelta> So does ubuntu run (well) on a nexus 7?
[22:38] <lorddelta> Anyone?
[22:38] <k1l_> lorddelta: #ubuntu-arm is the nexus7 and arm specific channel
[22:39] <riderplus> montanha: maybe the system recognized it but didn't mount it
[22:39] <riderplus> it happens
[22:39] <mjayk> lorddelta> not tried it wanna try it on my transformer though
[22:39] <lorddelta> k1l_: sorry thnx
[22:39] <lorddelta> mjayk: lol
[22:40] <corvaxia> Sounds like I have my reading list. Samba, miniDLNA and MediaTomb. Thanks
[22:41] <montanha> wait a moment
[22:41] <ichat> corvaxia:  - samba i wouldnt recoment,   if its for media charing only...  it has some overhead that,  things like  mediatomb  approach diferently...
[22:43] <montanha> riderplus: http://pastebin.com/uXtQ8HeU
[22:43] <ichat> corvaxia:  -  FYI - even VLC is capable of streaming  audio / video  to  your mobile devices...
[22:45] <corvaxia> ichat: So VLC would solve accessing my A/V files. One other file I would like to access are my pdfs cbrs and epubs
[22:47] <serp_> what is mimi dlna
[22:48] <serp_> ??
[22:48] <lorddelta> ubuntu on arm must be bad...pretty quiet in there...
[22:48] <k1l_> lorddelta: that is caused by the fact, that ubuntu on arm is in development status and not a final release.
[22:49] <lorddelta> ahk
[22:50] <fabrizziop> Hi to all, I've just got a simple question, I have two GPUs which are configured and working for number crunching (bitcoin), but the system somehow believes there are two monitors (it's weird because in the screen settings it shows only one monitor) and allows for the mouse cursor to go to the other "screen", and that becomes a hassle as you can accidentally get the cursor there. Is there any way
[22:51] <fabrizziop> I can stop the cursor from going to the other "screen"?, like a stop or anything
[22:51] <ikonia> fabrizziop: nvidia by any chance ?
[22:51] <fabrizziop> ati/amd, a 5770 and a 5830, using 12.8 driver I think
[22:52] <ikonia> odd never seen that with ati
[22:52] <ikonia> fabrizziop: basically hardcoding one screen either in the config tool or the xorg.conf should solve your problem
[22:52] <fabrizziop> that's what I was thinking, but in the xorg.conf what can I add to "ignore" the second screen?
[22:53] <ikonia> fabrizziop: you don't need to tell it to ignore, you just need to tell it there is only one configured
[22:53] <fabrizziop> ohh, you mean deleting the other screen from the xorg.conf?
[22:55] <Guest30301> Little elp here im booting live ubuntu 10.X and for some reason i cant chmod 755 filename  to a file in the usb stick
[22:55] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest30301
[22:56] <Guest30301> I know the small live boot im using is only root access.
[22:57] <k1l_> use a proper ubuntu live system, that will solve the problems :/
[22:57] <Guest30301> Any reason i can chmod a ile i created even with sudo ?
[22:57] <bekks> Guest30301: read-only filesystem.
[22:58] <Guest30301> they take to long to boot lol
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest30301: where is the file you created
[22:58] <Guest30301> in my us drive
[22:58] <ikonia> and what is 10.x ? 10.04, 10.10 ?
[22:58] <Guest30301> 10.10
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest30301: ok, so the first thing to consider is that 10.10 is EOL, so you may want to change that
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest30301: where is the file you are creating being saved ?
[22:58] <k1l_> its a non ubuntu live system. so we cant know what they changed there. besides running X as root
[22:59] <ikonia> he said it was ubuntu ?
[22:59] <ikonia> unless I've miss-read
[22:59] <Guest30301> Well its not ment to use on a system with internet access this is just a all i got moment lol
[22:59] <k1l_> i dont know o f a ubuntu live system that only got root access
[22:59] <ikonia> he could have just become root
[22:59] <Ziber> I'm dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu. I want to extend my ubuntu parition. Is there a safe way to do this leaving Windows completely unharmed?
[23:00] <Guest30301> its 10.10 B5 R3 live
[23:00] <ikonia> !info xchat
[23:00] <ikonia> ahhh backtrack
[23:00] <ikonia> Guest30301: ok, so #backtrack-linux is where you need to be
[23:00] <ikonia> Guest30301: join #backtrack-linux and they will help you
[23:00] <Guest30301> okay thank you for your time
[23:01] <Guest30301>  Cannot join #backtrack-linux (You are banned)  WTF
[23:01] <ikonia> Guest30301: you need to register
[23:01] <ikonia> !register | Guest30301
[23:01] <Guest30301> i have a username i just forget how to login lol its a wierd day
[23:04] <d4rkh4nd> nvm ill do it when i get home lol
[23:04] <d4rkh4nd> thank you all fo rthe help
[23:08] <dylan_> hey, when I go to download the latest updates for ubuntu 12.10 I get this "Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404  Not Found"
[23:08] <Muphrid> dylan_: did you apt-get update?
[23:09] <dylan_> Muphrid: No, I used "Software Updater"
[23:09] <ikonia> dylan_: that file is not there
[23:09] <dylan_> So how do I prevent it from looking for that file?
[23:10] <dylan_> weird
[23:10] <dylan_> I think it just worked
[23:10] <ikonia> dylan_: you'll have to either a.) remove that package b.) pin that packages version c.) wait for them to either update hte package on the server or update their contents file
[23:10] <ikonia> dylan_: http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/
[23:10] <dylan_> it just worked
[23:10] <dylan_> hmmm
[23:10] <ikonia> dylan_: open that in a browser, you'll see the file is not there
[23:10] <jrib> dylan_: make sure you ran "sudo apt-get update"
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> so guys, started looking into sessions. The gnome-fallback session seems to use gnome-wm as window manager, which in turn is compiz
[23:11] <dylan_> let me go do that when this finished
[23:11] <dylan_> finishes*
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> now I need to figure out why gnome-wm starts without errors
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> but does not actually create borders
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> mutter and metacity do actually create borders when using gnome classic
[23:12] <zoogoo> how do i remove icons from the menu bar?
[23:12] <dylan_> right click on them
[23:12] <dylan_> and click "unlock from launcher"
[23:12] <dylan_> That should do it
[23:12] <ProfessorBacon> shit
[23:12] <zoogoo> the right click only comes up with launch and properties
[23:13] <dylan_> Weird
[23:13] <angelpossum> hey on defocus_unsensored it wont let me send a message
[23:13] <nova> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/promote-use-free-software-our-schools-libre-office-gimp-gnu-cash-and-other-gpl-software-which-cost/T1xGw1fZ
[23:13] <ikonia> ProfessorBacon: no need for that language and it's not welcome
[23:13] <ikonia> nova: we don't need to see that link please.
[23:13] <jrib> angelpossum: #freenode can help you with that
[23:13] <ProfessorBacon> too late.  i saw the link.
[23:13] <dylan_> nova: post that to ##ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[23:13] <nova> ikonia, Yoi know whats that ?
[23:14] <ikonia> nova: pardon ?
[23:14] <nova> dylan_, Sure
[23:14] <k1l_> !ot > nova
[23:14] <ProfessorBacon> yay new channels!! thanks dylan
[23:36] <travelpc> Hello
 hello
[23:41] <elx> guys I have ubuntu installed on one partition and now want to install windows 8 on a second partition, now the ubuntu partition is set to primary
[23:41] <malkauns> how do i disable the annoying three-finger drag window move feature in ubuntu?
[23:41] <elx> does it make any difference if i select the one for windows also primary?
[23:42] <jrib> !synaptics | malkauns
[23:42] <malkauns> k
[23:42] <elx> what are the rules regarding setting primary/secondary in this case, i have googled it but couldn't find a clear answer
[23:43] <ikonia> elx: primary / extended doesn't matter
[23:43] <elx> ikonia, ok thank you :)
[23:44] <malkauns> jrib, that doesn't help :(
[23:45] <lickalott> Samba or NFS in terms of speed.  Which do you prefer?
[23:45] <ikonia> lickalott: depends on many things
[23:45] <ikonia> lickalott: work out what's best for your needs
[23:45] <fabrizziop_alt> sorry for bothering again, but what can I place into xorg.conf to ignore a display in a dual-gpu setup?
[23:46] <lickalott> samba is being a pain.  NFS it up and running already,  but at the cost of speed i will continue working to get samba right.  i've googled the speed thing and there are mixed reviews.  literally right down the middle.
[23:47] <lickalott> wanted to know what the "big brains" thought
[23:47] <ikonia> lickalott: it depends on a lot of things
[23:47] <ikonia> lickalott: probably why the reviews are mixed
[23:48] <lickalott> i'm keeping NFS for a view dirs (streaming movies, etc...) but the samba folder would be for data storage/movement
[23:48] <ikonia> lickalott: to be honest you'll hit more issues with your own network and disk speed than the actual transfer protocol unless you are on an enterprise network
[23:48] <ikonia> lickalott: I'd just consider which provides the best functionality for your needs
[23:48] <ikonia> lickalott: I don't see a need for both, you seem to be making it over complex
[23:48] <lickalott> k.  i need to get samba back up first then i'll do a side by side.
[23:49] <lickalott> ikonia i have a raspberry pi setup as an HTPC and the speed of streaming 1080p is affected by samba for some reason.
[23:49] <ikonia> lickalott: I suspect it's limited more by your rasberry
[23:49] <Magiobiwan> You're using a Pi as a SERVER?
[23:50] <ikonia> and the fact that the network card is on the same bus as your usb controller
[23:50] <lickalott> not really a server Magiobiwan.
[23:50] <ikonia> lickalott: are you using a usb disk plugged in ?
[23:50] <lickalott> just have it setup on the network with Xbian.
[23:50] <Magiobiwan> Server like thing.
[23:50] <lickalott> negative ikonia it's all over the network
[23:51] <ikonia> lickalott: how much ram is in your PI ?
[23:51] <lickalott> my ubuntu server is storing the files/movies
[23:51] <lickalott> it's a revA so 256 irrc.  but i bumped it up to 380
[23:51] <ikonia> bumped it ?
[23:52] <lickalott> you can edit a config to essentially overclock
[23:52] <ikonia> you soldered more ram on ?
[23:52] <ikonia> err that doesn't give you "more" ram
[23:52] <ikonia> you can't overclock the ammount of ram
[23:52] <lickalott> physically there is only 256
[23:52] <ikonia> right, so how have you given it more ?
[23:52] <lickalott> same way you would overclock a cpu in the bios
[23:53] <mbrownnyc> hello all, I've just completed installing the latest stable on an thinkpad x40, and I don't seem to have any desktop appearing
[23:53] <ikonia> errr that doen't give you "more ram"
[23:53] <mbrownnyc> i have a mouse cursor and what appears to be the background
[23:53] <lickalott> i never said "more ram".  I said i bumped it up.  you said "more ram"  ;P
[23:53] <mbrownnyc> I was able to authenticate as my user, but now I have nothing
[23:54] <ikonia> lickalott: so when you said bumped it up, you mean you increased the clock speed ?
[23:54] <mbrownnyc> compiz crashed and research showed that may be related to the graphics controller, but it's okay since I don't really need to use compiz
[23:54] <bekks> lickalott: So how did you "bump it up" then?
[23:54] <mbrownnyc> if anyone has any suggestions it would be appreciated as this setup is a gift
[23:54] <lequeu_m> Hi there, I've a little problem with the grep command, i want to display only the text after the maching pattern, if i search "foo" in "foo bar", i want " bar" to be displayed, is that possible, Thanks
[23:54] <ikonia> the pi has no bios
[23:54] <lickalott> true ikonia
[23:54] <lickalott> its just a config file
[23:55] <Limpan999> Lol
[23:55] <Limpan999> Whaddup?
[23:57] <Guest39608> quit
[23:57] <Guest39608> exit
[23:57] <mbrownnyc> lequeu_m: i don't think that's what grep is used for
[23:57] <mbrownnyc> lequeu_m: look at sed and awk
[23:57] <lickalott> Guest39608  ??
[23:57] <Guest39608> =) sorry
[23:57]  * mbrownnyc is sorry