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| Noskcaj | how would i put lubuntu on a hiapad hi802? | 06:45 |
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| Noskcaj | is anyone online who knows? | 08:28 |
| kulve | the linux-firmware package for Nexus7 includes bcm4330.hcd. Where does that come from? I'm just wondering if that's redistributable.. | 10:22 |
| asiekierka | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nexus7/+bug/1075549 | 10:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1075549 in linux-nexus7 (Ubuntu Raring) "please include fw_bcmdhd.bin and bcm4330.hcd in linux-firmware for support of the nexus7" [High,In progress] | 10:23 |
| asiekierka | one google search | 10:23 |
| kulve | asiekierka: yes and isn't that an open bug? | 10:24 |
| kulve | I don't see it saying it would be OK to add that binary? | 10:25 |
| infinity | kulve: You want linux-firmware-nexus7, I suspect. | 11:20 |
| kulve | infinity: nope. I want to know why linux-firmware-nexus7 includes bcm4330.hcd | 12:19 |
| infinity | Because it does...? | 12:19 |
| infinity | Why is a strange question. | 12:19 |
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| kulve | to me it looks like it's against the license of bcm4330.hcd to redistribute it | 12:20 |
| infinity | Our lawyers disagree on that point. What's the concern? | 12:21 |
| kulve | I would like to know from where that binary is originally downloaded and I would like to see the license for it. I'm redistributing the linux-firmware-nexus7 myself too and that's why I want to make sure that it's ok to include bcm4330.hcd | 12:22 |
| infinity | It's clearly not capital-f Free, and the license is non-transferrable. | 12:22 |
| kulve | could you please point me to the original license? | 12:23 |
| infinity | /usr/share/doc/linux-firmware-nexus7/copyright ? | 12:23 |
| infinity | Same as any other package. | 12:24 |
| kulve | I would like to see the original license, not the one you have added to it | 12:24 |
| kulve | because to me it looks like you have made a mistake.. | 12:24 |
| infinity | And that mistake is...? | 12:24 |
| kulve | the wrong license | 12:26 |
| infinity | This is the license we were given. There are other means of obtaining the firmware that may well come with other licenses. | 12:26 |
| infinity | But this is the license Canonical has. | 12:26 |
| infinity | Does that clear it up? | 12:26 |
| kulve | those binaries are available from google/android but bcm4330.hcd has different license than the rest of the bcm blobs | 12:26 |
| kulve | so you have got the blobs and the license directly from broadcom, google or asus? | 12:27 |
| infinity | From BCM, if I recall. | 12:27 |
| infinity | Or, so I was told when I looked into all of this. | 12:28 |
| kulve | ok. Then it makes more sense | 12:28 |
| infinity | This is also the exact same license you're asked to accept on the download from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers#grouper | 12:30 |
| infinity | I see no extra license for that one specific file, it's all in the BCM bundle under the one license. | 12:30 |
| kulve | well, I got completely different license when downloading the blobs from developers.google.com | 12:31 |
| kulve | or, not when downloading, but when extracting | 12:32 |
| infinity | ... | 12:32 |
| infinity | I *just* extracted them here. | 12:32 |
| infinity | Same license as in the package. | 12:32 |
| kulve | In the source package of "linux-firmware-1.95nexus3" I see LICENCE.broadcom_bcm43xx and at least that's different from the one I had to accept when extracting the package. 65 lines in the ubuntu version and 218 lines in the developers.google.com version | 12:37 |
| infinity | Err, you're looking at the PPA stuff, aren't you? | 12:38 |
| kulve | yes | 12:39 |
| infinity | linux-firmware-nexus7 in the archive in raring is what I'm talking about. | 12:39 |
| infinity | Ignore the PPA junk, it's all going away. | 12:39 |
| kulve | somebody could update the nexus7 wiki then.. | 12:39 |
| infinity | Which part? | 12:39 |
| infinity | The installation bits now install raring by default. | 12:39 |
| kulve | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Developers | 12:39 |
| infinity | "Our PPA contains the new or modified packages used for the 12.10 Ubuntu Nexus7 image." | 12:40 |
| infinity | The key there is "12.10". As in, the PPA contains bits for the hacked-up quantal image. | 12:40 |
| infinity | I'll edit anyway. | 12:41 |
| kulve | well, reading the correct license now. I can't understand why e.g. BCM needs to make so limiting licenses.. | 12:43 |
| infinity | It's not an uncommon license to see for any pseudo-embedded device, really. We just rarely target them. :/ | 12:44 |
| kulve | "[..]for non-commercial use on an Authorized Android Enabled Device and non-commercial redistribution of the Authorized Android Enabled Device Software[..]" | 12:44 |
| infinity | It's not drastically different from the NVIDIA licenses, except that it demands the device itself be "authorized", which is silly. | 12:45 |
| kulve | it seems that you still need to ask from the user that he has read the license before installing the package? | 12:48 |
| infinity | Not actually true. | 12:49 |
| kulve | I based that on the comment you(?) had written to the changelog.. | 12:50 |
| infinity | We do display our usage notice in certain circumstances (and in the installer thingee, I think?) | 12:51 |
| infinity | But none of that's actually necessary, just ass-covering. :P | 12:51 |
| infinity | Displaying the BCM license to the user, however, would be pointless, as it's non-transferrable, so we can't actually re-license to the end user under that license ANYWAY. | 12:52 |
| kulve | right.. | 12:52 |
| infinity | We can give them a usage grant, based on the license giving us that right. | 12:52 |
| infinity | (Which we do implicitly, whether we show them a blurb or not) | 12:52 |
| kulve | well, I need to figure out how to include that in tu my Mer builds | 12:56 |
| kulve | thanks for the comments | 12:56 |
| marvin24_ | is it possible to concatenate a zImage/ramdisk/fdt to uboot, so one has a | 13:41 |
| marvin24_ | everything in one image? | 13:41 |
| marvin24_ | seems everyone wants to load kernel from some storage or network ... | 13:42 |
| marvin24_ | mmh, I just concatenated it all with some padding in between | 15:00 |
| marvin24_ | this seems to work | 15:00 |
| prpplague | just fyi, the deadline for proposal submissions for ELC-2013 is jan 4th! if you have something interesting, get it submitted! http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp | 16:54 |
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| Noskcaj | how would i get ubuntu or lubuntu to run on a hiapad hi802? | 20:20 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: You'd need a kernel and a bootloader for it. | 20:35 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: (We don't build or ship one in the archive) | 20:36 |
| Noskcaj | infinity, that's a shame, the main advertisement was that it would run ubuntu, i was going to run testcases on it | 20:38 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: It would run Ubuntu userspace just fine. | 20:40 |
| infinity | Probably even with the Android kernel it ships with. | 20:41 |
| infinity | Would just take a bit of fun on your end to marry the two. | 20:41 |
| Noskcaj | infinity, ok, hopefully someone will make a guide or port for it soon, mine should arrive soon | 20:52 |
| mrspinx | Has anyone lost rom space after reflashing? | 20:56 |
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| llstarks | hi | 22:00 |
| llstarks | where do i start in porting a qualcomm android device like the galaxy s3 us variant? | 22:02 |
| === jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj | ||
| kdllabrat | hello, I am new to using the pandaboard. I am setting it up to access a webcam. The pandaboard runs ubuntu 12.04. It was working perfectly until I installed OMAP4. Whenever I restrart or shut down and start the machine in a few minutes, the pandaboard does not boot properly. It shows errors such as "thermal_get_slope:Getting slope is not supported for domain gpu" and so on... Is there a way to fix this? | 23:20 |
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