[00:10] <SpamapS> patdk-lap: for those people, piwik works
[00:10] <jn_> It would appear there are some time interval, if a user visit my site with 10 minutes in-between only the first visit is added to the visit statistic's, while BW etc. is updated.  Must be a parameter somewhere ?
[00:10] <SpamapS> patdk-lap: I understand that desire, I refuse to give google my MX for instance. ;)
[00:10] <SpamapS> jn_: probably caching
[00:11] <jn_> I'am manually manipulating the access log
[00:13] <jn_> http://awstats.sourceforge.net/docs/awstats_glossary.html if you read under "visits" I think an hour is the time interval. Seems strange to me though
[00:14] <jn_> I should read official documentation more often -_-
[00:15] <lickalott> hello all!  I've just rebuild my server and threw 12.10 on it.  When i do a uname-a i get (whats expected) the name of the rig that I chose during installation.  Consequently it's the same name prior to the rebuild.  i've set it up as an samba server (like before) but the hostname isn't being resolved.  i can only \\<IPADDRESS> to access it.  what can i do so that the hostname is recognized?
[00:25] <SpamapS> lickalott: is nmbd running?
[00:25] <lickalott> yes
[00:26] <lickalott> nmbd -D
[00:26] <lickalott> restart it?
[00:26] <lickalott> i also have nscd running
[00:37] <SpamapS> lickalott: nscd doesn't mean anything. you can try restarting nmbd
[00:57] <lickalott> i'm sorry...my client dc'd.  If anyone responded can you please re paste it for me
[00:58] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS> [12/29/12 19:37:10] lickalott: nscd doesn't mean anything. you can try restarting nmbd
[00:59] <lickalott> ahh..thank you!
[00:59] <lickalott> I've done that.
[01:00] <lickalott> here's the weird thing...  I have a batch file that mounts the nfs shares using the hostname  but I can't get to the /servername by itself
[01:06] <lickalott> SpamapS, i'm just gonna go with the script to auto mount.  seems to work with the path.  I may keep diggin but i'm happy for now.  Thanks for the assit!
[02:10] <qman__> Where's the best document on setting up openstack on ubuntu? I've tried it twice now with poor results. The main problem is I only have one server, I just want the tools and system to add more later. And I don't want devstack, I want something designed for production.
[02:23] <pmatulis> qman__: openstack for production would not have just one physical machine so what you're saying doesn't make much sense
[02:24] <qman__> what I mean by that is
[02:24] <qman__> I don't want some cheap hack that can't be patched and maintained
[02:24] <qman__> which is what devstack is
[02:24] <qman__> I want to use updateable, serviceable packages
[02:26] <pmatulis> i've never used devstack so it's hard for me to comment.  it doesn't use regular packages?
[02:27] <qman__> no
[02:27] <pmatulis> strange
[02:27] <qman__> it uses some, but most of it is just a big messy download into /opt
[02:27] <pmatulis> i put o/s on one machine using some instructions i found on the net.  i forget where.  seems to work
[02:27] <mikal> devstack is aimed at developers testing code changes, its really not intended for deployers at all
[02:28] <mikal> qman__: you should be just able to setup each component from packages on the single machine
[02:28] <qman__> I tried devstack first and it was a huge mess and didn't work, so I tried again following a guide on openstack's site, but that didn't work either
[02:28] <mikal> qman__: most of the defaults are reasonable in the packages. The most obvious thing to look at is that some of the packages default to sqlite databases, which wouldn't be a good choice if you intend to grow the deployment
[02:29] <qman__> yeah, I hate sqlite
[02:29] <qman__> the guide I followed was missing pieces of information I had to google for
[02:29] <qman__> and I never did get it working in the end
[02:30] <qman__> so I was hoping someone else has a better one, I found this which looks more promising: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/
[02:30] <qman__> but I'd obviously have to modify it for one server
[02:31] <pmatulis> on my todo list is to script-install the thing.  there is an absurd amount of commands to issue
[02:32] <mikal> pmatulis: I think you'll find most configuration management vendors have already done that
[02:32] <mikal> There's existing puppet / chef / juju configs
[02:33] <qman__> the main problem is that, since I've never used it before, I don't know what all the pieces specifically do and how the interact
[02:33] <qman__> so when it's broken, it's just broken
[02:33] <pmatulis> mikal: ah yes, juju.  saw it done.  problem is, you need to understand it first if you intend to maintain it
[02:33] <mikal> qman__: well... that's a much easier question to answer with specifics
[02:33] <mikal> qman__: if you have specific error messages, or questions, then that would be easier
[02:34] <qman__> I got the last one to the point where it was giving me some weird error page in a web browser, that google had no help for
[02:34] <mikal> (Although https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure is a reasonable guide)
[02:34] <qman__> I was at the point where everything was installed and I was trying to get a VM started up
[02:34] <mikal> Ok, that sounds like a horizon problem
[02:35] <mikal> Horizon isn't _required_ for a working deployment though
[02:35] <qman__> right
[02:35] <mikal> Install keystone / glance and nova first
[02:35] <pmatulis> qman__: i suggest using cli before horizon
[02:35] <mikal> Then fancy it up
[02:35] <qman__> I had all the other parts in (I think) and I couldn't get the CLI to load a VM
[02:35] <qman__> so I tried to install horizon and that didn't work
[02:35] <qman__> I had glance and nova and keystone
[02:35] <mikal> qman__: when that happens, the contents of /var/log/nova/nova-*.log is the place to be
[02:36] <mikal> Anyways, I'd start from scratch. Install glance and keystone. Get those working. Then install nova and get it working.
[02:36] <qman__> yeah, I'm going to
[02:36] <qman__> thanks for that link, I'll try that first
[02:37] <mikal> Well, I now realize that link requires maas / juju, so it requires buying into that methodology
[02:37] <mikal> If that doesn't work, you should just be able to install the packages and then configure them
[02:38] <qman__> well, this time I have a whole day to work on it and physical access to the server, so I can start over if things get completely effed
[02:38] <mikal> Cool
[02:38] <mikal> Good luck then
[05:39] <qman__> any known bugs with UEFI causing networking to not work? I'm trying to install from a flash drive because my USB-IDE adapter connected to a CD drive won't boot with the board, and it boots but it won't get a DHCP lease and won't communicate when there's a static IP
[05:39] <qman__> and I put in an old 10/100 card to make sure it wasn't just the onboard card
[06:14] <Skaag> I just upgraded to Precise from Lucid, the machine booted and reached the login prompt, but looks like both the network is down and somehow screwed, and pam is also screwed since I can't login... what might be causing this?
[06:16] <patdk-lap> who knows
[06:16] <patdk-lap> could make guesses all day, but we can't see inside your server from this side of irc
[06:32] <Skaag> I can't either :-)
[06:32] <Skaag> my plan is to ask a friend to go there, boot from the CD and run a rescue
[11:20] <strixbg> hi all
[11:24] <strixbg> I have network config problem with Ubuntu server 12.04 guest in virtual box: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[11:24] <strixbg> Failed to bring up eth0., when trying to restart networking
[11:29] <strixbg> anyone?
[13:15] <samba35> RoyK: hi
[13:20] <Guest53336> i'm just testing lxc on 12.10. How can I configure it to a simple bridge without NAT and DHCP and stuff?
[13:37] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #1039598 in krb5 (main) "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039598
[13:38] <RoyK> samba35: hi
[13:45] <samba35> how r u
[14:16] <RoyK> http://what-if.xkcd.com/25/ <-- flire
[14:16] <RoyK> oops
[14:16] <RoyK> wrong channel
[14:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #918791 in qemu-kvm "qemu-kvm dies when using vmvga driver and unity in the guest" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918791
[16:58] <Joe1301> anyone good at setting up dns I have 3 domains on a ispconfig server I have 2 of them resolve but the 1 domain that is attached to the server name will not resolve....Anyone can help?
[16:59] <Joe1301> the domain is joepros.com
[17:10] <SpamapS> Joe1301: the root servers think joepros.com has its name servers at 184.95.45.39
[17:11] <SpamapS> Joe1301: but 184.95.45.39 doesn't reply to queries about joepros.com
[17:12] <SpamapS> Joe1301: it can take up to 3 days for changes to propagate fully due to caching
[17:13] <SpamapS> Joe1301: though the root servers usually are all up to date much quicker than that
[17:13] <SpamapS> Joe1301: so once you change your dns server IP's at the registrar, you can monitor the root servers by doing 'dig joepros.com @k.gtld-servers.net ns'
[17:13] <Joe1301> yes thats the correct ip of the serverer....the server name is ws1.joepros.com I have a joepros.com zone with a record of ws1... I had it resolving yesterday for about 8 hours then it crashed
[17:13] <Rar9> can someone help with dpkg : warning: there´s no installed package matchine nginx:amd64
[17:13] <SpamapS> Joe1301: note that k.gtld-servers.net can be a-l .. I just chose k randomly
[17:15] <andol> Joe1301: Also, pointing ns1. and ns2. to the same ip kind of defeats the whole purpose.
[17:15] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, did you install nginx?
[17:16] <SpamapS> Rar9: probably a confused dpkg. perhaps try backing up the configs (all in /etc/nginx IIRC) and then installing the package manually (apt-get download nginx:amd64 ; dpkg -i nginx_*_amd64.deb)
[17:16] <Rar9> no I didn´t but I believe it cam with the Plesk Iso that I installed
[17:16] <Rar9> plesk 11
[17:16] <Joe1301> well godaddy wants 2 nameservers and I have only 1 ip
[17:16] <SpamapS> Joe1301: you should really find another server to be your #2. It *sucks* to not have DNS. :)
[17:16] <SpamapS> Joe1301: I've been using twisted4life for a few years, they're fine
[17:17] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, eww plesk.
[17:17] <SpamapS> Joe1301: also, even better, why not just let professionals run your DNS?
[17:17] <Rar9> yes :-)
[17:17] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, sudo apt-get install nginx-full
[17:17] <TheLordOfTime> do that
[17:17] <SpamapS> Joe1301: godaddy's hosted DNS (which is free) is fine for all but the most demanding needs.
[17:18] <maswan> If you want to run your own DNS, I strongly recommend reading DNS&Bind
[17:18] <Rar9> TheLordOfTime:  nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed
[17:18] <Rar9> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[17:18] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[17:18] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, your system is screwy
[17:18] <TheLordOfTime> did i mention plesk needs to die?
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, sudo apt-get install nginx-full nginx-common
[17:19] <Rar9> NO
[17:19]  * SpamapS actually prefers djbdns personally.. but has given in to the fact that BIND will always dominate :-P
[17:19] <Joe1301> godaddy only does dns with hosting Im not hosting
[17:19] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: plesk makes a lot of money for a lot of people. :p
[17:19] <Rar9> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS, you're saying GUI management of a server is decent?
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS, you and i need to argue in -offtopic about that then.
[17:19] <SpamapS> Joe1301: I have free DNS from godaddy and all I did was register the domain
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> someday.
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, pastebin the full output
[17:20] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: yes I'm saying GUI management of a server when it enables you to charge money and make a living, is excellent.
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> just giving me the error line sucks.
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> s/sucks/isnt useful/
[17:20]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> i need coffee.
[17:20]  * TheLordOfTime shall return
[17:21] <Joe1301> hmm Ill look into it
[17:21] <Rar9> TheLordOfTime http://pastebin.com/QFJ1dPTp
[17:21] <TheLordOfTime> "sw-nginx"
[17:21] <TheLordOfTime> the hell is that
[17:22] <qman__> plesk breaking his system
[17:22] <qman__> because plesk is garbage
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> what qman__ said
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> "sw-nginx"
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> that's not even OFFICIAL
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> plesk broke it, dude.
[17:23] <qman__> they don't even try to fit within the structure of the operating system
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> Rar9, plesk broke it, man, i can't help you with that one.
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> ... although i can fix this php5 FTBFS on my local builders.  that's the sixth time this week...  *diverts attention*
[17:24] <SpamapS> yeah if you're using plesk, you're using plesk's software, not Ubuntu's
[17:24] <Rar9> TheLordOfTime thanks :_(
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> eeyup
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> and we can't help you there
[18:10] <samba35> RoyK:
[18:10] <samba35> RoyK: hi
[18:25] <RoyK> ding
[18:32] <samba35> dong
[18:36] <RoyK> what's up?
[18:37] <samba35> how to use dmg to iso getting error ERROR: Inflation failed
[18:41] <jeeves_moss> what is the best way to externally log for routers?  I would like to set up a syslog server on a Linux box.
[18:50] <patdk-lap> heh? isn't that the best way?
[18:50] <patdk-lap> just configure rsyslog to listen on udp (and maybe tcp), and then have your routers/firewalls/... stream to it
[18:50] <samba35> RoyK: r u there ?
[18:50] <samba35> or any idea on
[18:51] <patdk-lap> personally that is what I do, but in my case rsyslog streams into mysql, and I use a webinterface to search/view it, also several scripts monitor it for stuff, like dos/attacks/...
[18:51] <RoyK> !ask | samba35
[18:51] <qman__> speaking of that, is there a good tool for viewing syslogs like that? every time I've set up syslog to one place it always gets too messy to be useful
[18:52] <patdk-lap> qman, splunk? logzilla? I'm not sure of any current free ones
[18:53] <patdk-lap> php-syslog-ng was free, but it's old now, and not really performance friendly
[18:53] <samba35> when i tryed to convert dmg (apple) image to iso with dmg2img it give me error  "Error:inflation failed "
[18:54] <qman__> hmm, apparently php-syslog-ng became logzilla
[18:55] <patdk-lap> yep
[18:58] <qman__> this one looks alright: http://demo.phplogcon.org/index.php?filter=&search=Search&highlight=
[18:58] <patdk-lap> not sure I have seen that one
[19:01] <patdk-lap> looks alittle raw
[19:02] <RoyK> qman__: seems virtualbox eats thos dmg's nicely without conversion
[19:02] <patdk-lap> samba35 you mean
[19:02] <RoyK> yes, I do
[19:04] <RoyK> but it sent me into an EFI console and failed to install
[19:11] <phillw> a very quick n00b question, if I may.. Why when updating a ubuntu server do I get the message that the linux-header-server, linux-image-server and linux-server are being held back?
[19:13] <patdk-lap> cause your not updating them :)
[19:14] <patdk-lap> upgrade only upgrades things that don't bring in new packages
[19:14] <patdk-lap> those are new, so they are held back
[19:14] <patdk-lap> dist-upgrade brings in new stuff
[19:15] <phillw> patdk-lap: So, as I'm running an 12.04 LTS server, it is pointing out that there is a 12.10 version available?
[19:15] <patdk-lap> phillw, just ignore that, unless you want 12.10
[19:16] <phillw> patdk-lap: the people to whom the VM belongs (Tor) have asked it to run on 12.04 LTS :)
[19:17] <phillw> thanks for explaining :)
[19:18] <qman__> yeah, dist-upgrade is not a release upgrade
[19:19] <TheLordOfTime> phillw, you can always force those three to install, either with dist-upgrade or specifying sudo apt-get install [packges]
[19:19] <TheLordOfTime> if it pulls in new packages though it holds back
[19:31] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: is there a gain to grabbing the kernel upgrades? I am allowed to reboot the Tor VM when it needs it, but as with servers.... I do prefer 'uptime'.
[19:32] <patdk-lap> uptime is highly overrated
[19:32] <patdk-lap> installing new kernels most of the time means patching root escalation issues
[19:32] <patdk-lap> so normally something you want to do
[19:33] <phillw> patdk-lap: Oooh, when you have a server with hundreds of users, such as an znc-bouncer... they prefer uptime :P
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> phillw, i don't bother updating the kernel on systems that need to be online.
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> phillw, you know which system i'm talking about :P
[19:34] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: ^^ :P
[19:34] <patdk-lap> if there is no way a user can run code on the system, and your services are secure
[19:35] <patdk-lap> but if the user can get their code to run on the system, I would be more paranoid of updating the kernel and libs
[19:35] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[19:46] <qman__> ksplice uptrack
[19:46] <qman__> no compromise, stay up and update at the same time
[19:50] <phillw> qman__: thanks, I'll have a look into that :)
[19:51] <qman__> oracle ruined the website but it's still free for ubuntu and fedora
[19:54] <phillw> qman__: I'm just reading the wiki page. Indeed oracle are trying moneterise a free system that is part of the system :) Next up, they'll be offerring paid for support for MySQL :D
[20:03] <patdk-lap> mysql has always offered payed support for mysql
[20:04] <RoyK> mysql is like "I want to be a RDBMS"
[20:04] <RoyK> postgresql is a bit better ;)
[20:13] <patdk-lap> royk, use oracle sql instead then
[20:19] <RoyK> heh - oracle costs a wee bit more
[20:47] <jeeves_moss> how do I setup syslog so I can log my external routers, etc?
[20:51] <patdk-lap> jeeves_moss, dunno, what syslog do you use?
[20:51] <patdk-lap> and did you attempt to read it's manual?
[20:57] <RoyK> jeeves_moss: modify /etc/rsyslog.conf to listen
[20:57] <RoyK> then your routers can log to t
[20:57] <RoyK> then your routers can log to it