| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | morning all | 06:59 |
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| Cantide | wb Kilos | 10:06 |
| Cantide | '< | 10:06 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide ty | 10:06 |
| Cantide | CanStudy is AWOL | 10:06 |
| Cantide | but now i don't know what to do with myself | 10:07 |
| Cantide | haha | 10:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:07 |
| Cantide | it's also too hot to do anything -.- | 10:08 |
| Kilos | yeah is a bit warm today | 10:08 |
| Cantide | i could a) clean my room b) do some programming c) do nothing | 10:08 |
| Cantide | right now i am doing c :) | 10:08 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:08 |
| Wraz | Last night i got abit too drunk | 10:29 |
| Wraz | i woke up | 10:29 |
| Wraz | i shouldnt of driven hom in that state | 10:29 |
| Wraz | now i have to get a new tyre | 10:29 |
| Wraz | I dont remember much. | 10:30 |
| Kilos | ouch | 10:30 |
| Wraz | I think it was a good night though. | 10:30 |
| Wraz | but I really should not drink that much. ;-) | 10:30 |
| Wraz | I was kind of sad last night though, so i needed cheering up. | 10:31 |
| Wraz | I think i spent like 120 ounds too | 10:31 |
| Wraz | meh :) | 10:31 |
| charl_ | good afternoon | 16:22 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 16:22 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 16:22 | |
| Kilos | hi charl_ | 16:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 16:22 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 16:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz, large | 16:22 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Kilos | 16:22 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 16:23 |
| charl_ | lol a beer mug full of coffee | 16:23 |
| charl_ | i tried out my new coffee machine today but i forgot to buy coffee pads yesterday so i just did a "test run" with some clean water | 16:24 |
| charl_ | coffee filters i mean | 16:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:24 |
| Kilos | did you enjoy it | 16:24 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 16:25 |
| charl_ | lol no the clean water i just threw away | 16:25 |
| charl_ | but it's a good idea to wear the machine in because a lot of it is a type of plastic | 16:26 |
| Kilos | what a waste you shoulda added some sugar and instant coffee | 16:26 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! | 16:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 16:26 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 16:26 |
| charl_ | lol no instant coffee is gross | 16:26 |
| charl_ | Maaz: thanks | 16:26 |
| Maaz | charl_: No problem | 16:26 |
| charl_ | i actually have a nice pot though, it's not a glass pot but a thermoflask type pot | 16:27 |
| charl_ | so it keeps the coffee warm for a long time | 16:27 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:27 |
| charl_ | i can make a few cups at a time and enjoy it during the morning | 16:27 |
| Kilos | nice | 16:28 |
| charl_ | up until thus far i've been using senseo which is a coffee pad system | 16:28 |
| charl_ | but i don't like the coffee that comes in the pads | 16:28 |
| charl_ | it's not good coffee | 16:28 |
| charl_ | it's handy though because you can make fresh coffee one cup at a time | 16:28 |
| Kilos | dont you get nescafee classic and gold there | 16:29 |
| Kilos | thats lekker instant coffee | 16:29 |
| charl_ | yes we get nescafe but it's gross | 16:29 |
| charl_ | or i don't like it, in any case | 16:29 |
| Kilos | not the cheap one man | 16:29 |
| charl_ | dunno i've tried a few ones but they all seem to be pretty bad | 16:30 |
| charl_ | there is actually one nescafe product which isn't too bad | 16:30 |
| charl_ | it's called dolce gusto | 16:30 |
| charl_ | you have to buy these little cups and a special machine | 16:31 |
| Kilos | we get ricoffy which is better than any other brand and then the expensive ones that are just as good as perculated without the hassle | 16:31 |
| charl_ | but they are rather expensive - for about 10 you pay 3 euro | 16:31 |
| charl_ | actually i guess 0.30 cent per cup isn't that bad if you don't drink too much coffee | 16:32 |
| charl_ | thing i don't like about instant coffee is they usually throw sugars and other nonsense in there as well | 16:33 |
| charl_ | so you end up drinking a brew of artificial ingredients | 16:33 |
| charl_ | maltodextrin and what else | 16:33 |
| Kilos | oh no we get coffee in glass bottles or tins the cheaper brands | 16:33 |
| Kilos | za still has advantages over you euro peeps | 16:34 |
| charl_ | in south africa i used to buy bags of coffee the same as here but it was quite expensive down there | 16:35 |
| charl_ | i would pay 2x as much for the same amount of coffee than what i do here | 16:35 |
| charl_ | just usual filter coffee i mean | 16:35 |
| Kilos | good coffee is expensive here | 16:35 |
| charl_ | yeah i wonder why that is, considering africa makes some of the best coffee :) | 16:36 |
| charl_ | when i used to visit kenya i used to drink really good kenyan coffee and it's cheap there | 16:36 |
| charl_ | but if you buy it anywhere else in the world it's some of the most expensive stuff | 16:36 |
| charl_ | the tea is also extremely good in kenya | 16:36 |
| Kilos | ya up there they grow the stuff, not here | 16:36 |
| charl_ | yeah south africa has wine and hop | 16:36 |
| charl_ | grapes and hop i mean | 16:37 |
| charl_ | ok dinner time for me | 16:39 |
| charl_ | bbl | 16:39 |
| superfly | if I'm making real coffee, I grind the beans myself. ground coffee from the shops is stale | 16:39 |
| Kilos | because it just stands there because of the price superfly | 16:40 |
| Kilos | only cheap stuff moves | 16:40 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's stale after an hour | 16:41 |
| Kilos | eeek | 16:41 |
| superfly | exactly | 16:41 |
| Kilos | and you drink it | 16:41 |
| Kilos | whew | 16:41 |
| Kilos | i even enjoy ricoffy now and again | 16:47 |
| Squirm | evening | 17:02 |
| Kilos | hey Squirm | 17:17 |
| superfly | Kilos: I drink ricoffy most of the time, real coffee is very expensive | 17:20 |
| Kilos | ah ricoffy is nice too | 17:21 |
| Kilos | another nice one was encore but also got epensive | 17:22 |
| Kilos | expensive | 17:22 |
| Kilos | superfly, is there a way to resolve that conflict. i still get that same output | 17:29 |
| Kilos | will uncommenting that line let one change it | 17:30 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2b8UYA84L | 17:30 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn i can ssh the server | 17:30 |
| Kilos | can install etc from here but in cli only. spose thats right | 17:31 |
| superfly | Kilos: did you restart your networking like I told you to? | 17:32 |
| Kilos | yessir but from the server | 17:32 |
| Kilos | dont work from here | 17:32 |
| Kilos | also rebooted | 17:32 |
| superfly | I told you, you have to run it on the server - it won't work from ssh | 17:33 |
| Kilos | yip i did it | 17:34 |
| superfly | did you save that file like I told you to? | 17:34 |
| Kilos | but still no internet | 17:34 |
| Kilos | the nano one? | 17:34 |
| superfly | Kilos: you have internet, you just don't have DNS | 17:34 |
| superfly | yes | 17:34 |
| Kilos | ctrl o enter yes | 17:35 |
| superfly | Kilos: did you do it on the right computer? | 17:35 |
| Kilos | oh my | 17:36 |
| Squirm | another nice day at the dam :) | 17:36 |
| Kilos | cant find that command now. superfly was it sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf ? | 17:40 |
| superfly | no | 17:41 |
| Kilos | or another file | 17:41 |
| Kilos | i know in nm i did the 8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4 in dns | 17:42 |
| superfly | sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces | 17:42 |
| Kilos | on this pc hey? | 17:43 |
| superfly | no on the server | 17:43 |
| Kilos | ok i go see ty | 17:43 |
| charl_ | ok back | 17:44 |
| charl_ | superfly: that's a good idea generally speaking but i rarely have that much time in the morning ;) | 17:44 |
| charl_ | maybe over a weekend or so | 17:44 |
| charl_ | but during the week i just buy it pre-ground | 17:44 |
| Kilos | yeah i did it there superfly | 17:45 |
| Kilos | dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4 | 17:45 |
| Kilos | now i did sudo ifdown eth1 and sudo ifup eth1 on the server | 17:50 |
| superfly | Kilos: did it change anything? | 17:58 |
| Kilos | i dont know what to look for. superfly | 17:59 |
| Kilos | it can still ping 8.8.8.8 | 17:59 |
| * smile2013 pings Kilos | 18:00 | |
| smile2013 | :DD | 18:00 |
| Kilos | smile2013, pong | 18:00 |
| smile2013 | :) | 18:00 |
| Kilos | but cant ping www.google.com | 18:01 |
| Kilos | unknown host www.google.com | 18:01 |
| smile2013 | Kilos: your DNS doesn't work :p | 18:02 |
| * Kilos cries | 18:02 | |
| smile2013 | :'( | 18:02 |
| Kilos | dunno if i must ssh from here first | 18:02 |
| smile2013 | I don't know too | 18:06 |
| smile2013 | :p | 18:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:06 |
| Kilos | its a prob that can only be sorted by very clever peeps | 18:07 |
| Kilos | experienced peeps | 18:07 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos | 18:10 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn | 18:10 |
| charl_ | hi smile2013 | 18:10 |
| charl_ | how's it going? | 18:10 |
| magespawn | Still struggling with the dns | 18:11 |
| magespawn | Hey charl_ smile2013 | 18:11 |
| charl_ | hi magespawn | 18:12 |
| smile2013 | hi charl_ & magespawn :) | 18:12 |
| smile2013 | charl_: fine :D | 18:13 |
| smile2013 | you? :) | 18:13 |
| Kilos | yeah magespawn | 18:13 |
| charl_ | good | 18:13 |
| charl_ | can't complain thanks | 18:13 |
| smile2013 | :DD | 18:13 |
| * smile2013 neither can | 18:13 | |
| smile2013 | :) | 18:13 |
| charl_ | the fireworks are cracking outside but it's very silent compared to last year | 18:13 |
| Kilos | i can actually install from here if i put the cd in there and cli from here | 18:13 |
| charl_ | we have an incredible south-westerly wind here though | 18:13 |
| charl_ | and it's raining | 18:13 |
| smile2013 | I was able to shrink the installer size from 6,5 to 5,5 megabyte :) | 18:13 |
| smile2013 | Removed some unneeded features :p | 18:14 |
| charl_ | installer of? | 18:14 |
| smile2013 | a custom chatzilla version :D | 18:15 |
| charl_ | interesting | 18:15 |
| smile2013 | specially made for #hugsmile :) | 18:15 |
| smile2013 | autojoins the channel :p | 18:15 |
| smile2013 | and hides some components of chatzilla | 18:15 |
| smile2013 | to simplify its interface for newbies | 18:15 |
| smile2013 | :) | 18:15 |
| charl_ | sounds cool | 18:15 |
| magespawn | Brb. | 18:16 |
| smile2013 | charl_: I will be soon releasing 3.0 :) | 18:16 |
| smile2013 | :DD | 18:18 |
| charl_ | nice | 18:18 |
| charl_ | i have been working on something irc related myself for a while just for fun | 18:18 |
| smile2013 | only for windows :'( | 18:18 |
| smile2013 | but should run on wine fine :) | 18:18 |
| charl_ | a bot that gathers information about any given url and sends a message back to the channel | 18:18 |
| smile2013 | cool. :p | 18:19 |
| charl_ | the latest code is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1479505/ | 18:19 |
| charl_ | they have something similar in #ubuntu-de | 18:19 |
| smile2013 | like maaz? :p | 18:20 |
| Kilos | an ibid? | 18:20 |
| charl_ | nah very different | 18:20 |
| charl_ | maaz is more general purpose | 18:20 |
| Kilos | Maaz, is a cool bot | 18:21 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Excuse me? | 18:21 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:21 |
| charl_ | maaz makes us coffee :) | 18:21 |
| Maaz | charl_: *blink* | 18:21 |
| charl_ | he's the maid of this channel | 18:21 |
| charl_ | or perhaps the butler :) | 18:21 |
| charl_ | Maaz: you're our butler right? | 18:21 |
| Maaz | charl_: *blink* | 18:21 |
| smile2013 | charl_: he confirms :p | 18:21 |
| Kilos | Maaz, is a cool bot | 18:21 |
| Maaz | Oh I know! | 18:21 |
| charl_ | hehe | 18:22 |
| smile2013 | if this world runs out of lovers, we still have each other, Maaz :) | 18:22 |
| smile2013 | he ignores me :p | 18:22 |
| smile2013 | (..searching.. no pattern found in databases -> blink?) | 18:22 |
| Kilos | tell him you love him | 18:22 |
| smile2013 | :) | 18:22 |
| smile2013 | Maaz: I still love you | 18:23 |
| Maaz | smile2013: Excuse me? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | not still man | 18:23 |
| smile2013 | Maaz: Do you want to marry me? :D | 18:23 |
| Maaz | smile2013: Excuse me? | 18:23 |
| smile2013 | :( | 18:23 |
| smile2013 | Maaz: I love you | 18:23 |
| Maaz | smile2013 Don't embarrass youself. You aren't a cyber chick | 18:23 |
| smile2013 | :p | 18:23 |
| smile2013 | do you love Maaz too, Kilos ? :p | 18:23 |
| Kilos | yeah he has helped me often because i hate googling | 18:24 |
| smile2013 | :) | 18:25 |
| * smile2013 does !g keyword if he wants to google something | 18:25 | |
| charl_ | the temperature of the climate in this channel has just risen with 5 degrees :) | 18:25 |
| smile2013 | My default search engine is duckduckgo :) | 18:25 |
| smile2013 | charl_: cool. How warm is it here now? :) | 18:25 |
| charl_ | if it's a south african channel probably 40 now :) | 18:26 |
| Kilos | we were 33°c today and its just started storming | 18:27 |
| Kilos | but not cooled down yet | 18:28 |
| charl_ | :S | 18:28 |
| charl_ | when it gets 30 here i almost feel like dying :) | 18:28 |
| charl_ | i run into the forest, there it's nice and cool | 18:28 |
| charl_ | i used to live right on the edge of the forest, now it's a bit further away | 18:29 |
| Kilos | there by mage they often have 40°c and up some | 18:29 |
| smile2013 | charl_: too hot ;) | 18:29 |
| smile2013 | :D | 18:31 |
| charl_ | bah | 18:32 |
| charl_ | you wanna kill me :) | 18:32 |
| charl_ | actually i have had that before in botswana | 18:32 |
| charl_ | but the benefit is it is very dry in the desert | 18:32 |
| smile2013 | http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rekonq&diff=34183926&oldid=33978752 :) | 18:34 |
| charl_ | cool | 18:40 |
| charl_ | i need to move back to kde | 18:40 |
| charl_ | i keep getting crashes in gnome3 | 18:40 |
| charl_ | i held out for long enough but am getting tired now | 18:40 |
| charl_ | it's a pity because outside of stability issues gnome3 is pretty cool | 18:40 |
| smile2013 | charl_: you use GNOME 3? :o | 18:44 |
| smile2013 | I gave up once I knew about it xD | 18:45 |
| smile2013 | I was on LXDE at that time | 18:45 |
| smile2013 | I just changed to Enlightenment and that's where I'm still today. :) | 18:45 |
| Squirm | using xfce on my netbook(not bad) and just mint mate on my desktop and work machine | 18:47 |
| Squirm | well, xubuntu on my netbook | 18:47 |
| charl_ | i've tried lxde and generally speaking it's quite nice | 18:48 |
| charl_ | i didn't like the terminal emulator though | 18:48 |
| charl_ | i think it didn't have enough keyboard shortcuts | 18:48 |
| charl_ | but the benefit of using linux is that you can easily switch out different components if you want | 18:48 |
| Squirm | it was a little lightweight for me, but I understand it does it's job well | 18:48 |
| Squirm | sakura isn't a bad emulator | 18:48 |
| charl_ | so for example you could just switch out lxde's terminal emulator with xfce's | 18:48 |
| charl_ | sakura... can't say i've used it | 18:49 |
| charl_ | sounds like a japanese name | 18:49 |
| smile2013 | charl_: I like lxterminal, just because it's so minimal :p | 18:51 |
| smile2013 | I disliked the tab feature, however | 18:51 |
| smile2013 | and I've just hidden it :p | 18:52 |
| Squirm | to each their own - when it comes to linux | 18:52 |
| charl_ | yeah exactly, the tabs didn't work well for me, but if i remember correctly there were more | 18:52 |
| charl_ | Squirm: yeah that's why i like linux | 18:53 |
| smile2013 | charl_: do you speak Afrikaans good enough? :p | 18:54 |
| Squirm | s/good/well | 18:54 |
| * Squirm runs | 18:54 | |
| smile2013 | Squirm: :o | 18:55 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:55 |
| smile2013 | :) | 18:55 |
| Squirm | :) | 18:55 |
| magespawn | back | 19:11 |
| magespawn | man that took awhile to connect properly | 19:11 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 19:11 |
| magespawn | Kilos did you get the dns sorted? | 19:12 |
| Kilos | nope magespawn | 19:12 |
| Kilos | still dont work | 19:12 |
| Kilos | sigh | 19:12 |
| Kilos | what i dont savvy is why | 19:13 |
| Kilos | why can it ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com or co.za | 19:13 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:13 |
| magespawn | it can ping an ip but not the address because dns takes the word address and translates it into the ip number for the computer | 19:14 |
| magespawn | hold on a second | 19:14 |
| magespawn | try to ping 165.165.38.44 | 19:16 |
| * Kilos holds | 19:16 | |
| magespawn | and? | 19:18 |
| Kilos | magespawn, i can ping it from here with ssh runing | 19:18 |
| Kilos | running | 19:18 |
| Squirm | seems to be a dns thing | 19:18 |
| Squirm | if you can ping an IP and not a domain name, I blame dns | 19:19 |
| Kilos | so i see slowP4 in cli not P4 which is this one | 19:19 |
| magespawn | definately dns like superfly said, but why is the question. | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ya but the fly got me to set dns servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 in nm | 19:19 |
| Kilos | so i dunno | 19:20 |
| Squirm | Kilos: I know you've been through this, what what was in resolv.conf? | 19:20 |
| Squirm | s/was/is | 19:20 |
| Kilos | but i still get that resolv.conf error | 19:20 |
| superfly | 127.0.0.1 | 19:20 |
| superfly | Squirm: ^^ | 19:20 |
| magespawn | charl_: i just read the logs about your bot program | 19:21 |
| Kilos | ty superfly i woulda had to run it again to see | 19:21 |
| magespawn | are going to open source it? | 19:21 |
| magespawn | but that is a loop back address | 19:21 |
| superfly | magespawn: yes | 19:22 |
| superfly | Kilos: what is eth0 if you have eth1 ? | 19:22 |
| Squirm | superfly: wouldn't "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in resolv.conf work? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | this nm shows as eth0 but any command with eth0 doesnt work | 19:23 |
| superfly | Squirm: not if it is overwritten every time a nic changes | 19:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: forget the computer you're on, it has no problems | 19:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: don't even compare the two, cause that's where you start getting confused | 19:23 |
| Kilos | oh isnt it this nm thats doing wrong things | 19:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: who said it was? | 19:24 |
| Kilos | it used to show mac address but empty now too | 19:24 |
| Kilos | well thats where i set ips and so isnt it | 19:24 |
| Kilos | and the server needs to follow whats setup in this nm | 19:25 |
| Kilos | so they are linked to the prob, not so? | 19:26 |
| Squirm | superfly: if the interface is set to dhcp, maybe it writes over the resolv.conf? | 19:27 |
| superfly | Squirm: it isn't | 19:27 |
| superfly | it's hard-coded | 19:27 |
| superfly | Kilos: since when does the server have to know what's in your computer's NM? | 19:28 |
| Kilos | well it has to be forwarded with nat through 192.168.1.1 | 19:28 |
| Kilos | not so | 19:28 |
| superfly | Kilos: that has nothing to do with NM | 19:29 |
| Squirm | superfly: I don't know if you can edit the /etc/resolv.conf, maybe you have to edit something like /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head | 19:29 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:29 |
| Squirm | I seem to remember having to do that on my ltsp clients | 19:29 |
| superfly | Squirm: apparently if you just set the dns-nameservers value in /etc/network/interfaces under the correct interface, it will set resolv.conf | 19:30 |
| smile2013 | see ya! :D | 19:30 |
| smile2013 | thanks for helping, Kilos :) | 19:30 |
| Kilos | toods smile2013 | 19:30 |
| Squirm | bye smile2013 | 19:30 |
| Kilos | yw | 19:30 |
| superfly | Kilos: in ssh, cat /etc/network/interfaces and then copy and paste the text from your terminal into pastebin | 19:30 |
| smile2013 | good night, Squirm & Kilos & super | 19:30 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:30 |
| smile2013 | (superfly) | 19:30 |
| superfly | night smile2013 | 19:31 |
| smile2013 | thanks :) | 19:31 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2EFjMIOp7 | 19:32 |
| charl_ | magespawn: it's just a little script but as far as i'm concerned it's public property | 19:33 |
| charl_ | public domain i mean | 19:33 |
| magespawn | i just thought it might be good to involve others | 19:33 |
| charl_ | magespawn: if somebody wants to, i think it would be a great idea to create a proper project out of it | 19:34 |
| charl_ | magespawn: but i don't just want to create yet another one-man project | 19:35 |
| magespawn | i see | 19:35 |
| charl_ | magespawn: it could be interesting, i had some ideas of scraping for microformats etc as well | 19:35 |
| magespawn | what language are you writing in? | 19:35 |
| charl_ | just java at the moment | 19:35 |
| charl_ | i use some libraries like jsoup that are also java so it's the easiest | 19:36 |
| Kilos | superfly, http://slexy.org/view/s2EFjMIOp7 | 19:36 |
| superfly | Kilos: I saw that, it looks fine | 19:36 |
| magespawn | i unfortunately do not know that much yet i am just learning python | 19:36 |
| Squirm | i see it would only work with resolvconf | 19:37 |
| Squirm | I coded mine into the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head | 19:37 |
| Squirm | so when it updates, it updates with the head and the base. so no matter what the other nameservers are, it'll always be there | 19:37 |
| Kilos | hehe when the server screen goes off everytime i wiggle the mouse then only twig its keyboard only | 19:39 |
| charl_ | nn all | 19:40 |
| Kilos | night charl_ | 19:40 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:40 |
| magespawn | as an side question, where would a wireless network connection show u? | 19:41 |
| magespawn | s/u/up | 19:41 |
| Squirm | magespawn: /etc/network/interface | 19:41 |
| Squirm | s | 19:42 |
| Squirm | hmm | 19:42 |
| Squirm | though on my netbook it isn't | 19:42 |
| Squirm | maybe nm takes over completely | 19:42 |
| Kilos | interfaces | 19:43 |
| magespawn | http://slexy.org/view/s2TdeEuao6 | 19:43 |
| Squirm | my ethernet port doesn;t show either | 19:43 |
| * Squirm blames nm | 19:43 | |
| Squirm | magespawn: mine looks the same. see, no ethernet | 19:43 |
| Kilos | Squirm, its interfaces | 19:43 |
| Squirm | so I blame nm | 19:43 |
| Squirm | Kilos: it gets set there if you don't have a network manager | 19:44 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:44 |
| Kilos | never ends | 19:44 |
| Squirm | which is what you're doing on your server | 19:44 |
| superfly | Squirm: network manager does not exist on the server, so it has nothing to do with the problem | 19:44 |
| magespawn | network manager only in the gui? | 19:44 |
| Squirm | superfly: not saying it does, I know it isn't the issue. just answering magespawn | 19:45 |
| superfly | magespawn: on desktop systems network manager controls the interfaces | 19:45 |
| magespawn | ahh right that is why the difference | 19:46 |
| Squirm | Kilos: in ssh, please give this a try | 19:47 |
| Squirm | echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:47 |
| Squirm | then restart networking | 19:48 |
| superfly | Squirm: that won't work | 19:48 |
| magespawn | this is from my server http://slexy.org/view/s20X8qEzZg | 19:48 |
| Squirm | superfly: why's that? | 19:48 |
| superfly | Squirm: he's not root | 19:48 |
| Kilos | i went root superfly | 19:48 |
| superfly | magespawn: your eth1 interface is configured to use DHCP | 19:49 |
| superfly | Kilos: bad idea | 19:49 |
| superfly | always sudo | 19:49 |
| Kilos | those other 3 commands only work from root | 19:49 |
| magespawn | indeed it is superfly from the adsl router | 19:49 |
| Kilos | you member those other 3? | 19:49 |
| magespawn | is also takes the dns from there | 19:49 |
| Kilos | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE | 19:50 |
| Kilos | like that sudo dont work | 19:50 |
| superfly | Kilos: right, the ones you use because you removed the firewall software ... let's leave it at that | 19:51 |
| Kilos | ouch | 19:51 |
| Kilos | w00t | 19:52 |
| Squirm | Kilos: then, sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head | 19:52 |
| Kilos | can ping www.google.com from ssh | 19:52 |
| Squirm | and add | 19:52 |
| Squirm | nameserver 8.8.8.8 | 19:52 |
| Squirm | :P | 19:52 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:52 |
| Squirm | if you ran that echo command, it'd do the same thing | 19:53 |
| Squirm | but wait | 19:53 |
| Squirm | if you can ping google | 19:53 |
| Squirm | then you don't need to do anything else | 19:53 |
| Kilos | i did the echo one | 19:53 |
| Kilos | lemme try update | 19:53 |
| Kilos | yay no more something wicked happening | 19:54 |
| Squirm | the head and base file in the resolvconf dir always get added to the /etc/resolv.conf | 19:54 |
| Squirm | so it's basically a resolvconf workaround | 19:55 |
| Squirm | I don't think I like resolvconf | 19:55 |
| Kilos | this is so lekker runing update from here on other pc | 19:55 |
| Squirm | ssh ftw | 19:55 |
| Kilos | now i can make that a mail server too hey? | 19:55 |
| Squirm | I use ssh and sftp everyday | 19:55 |
| magespawn | not such a good idea that | 19:56 |
| Squirm | I wouldn't suggest running a mailserver on 3G :P | 19:56 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:56 |
| Kilos | np | 19:56 |
| Squirm | cause if your 3G is off, mail won't be delivered | 19:57 |
| Kilos | oh ya i see | 19:57 |
| Kilos | not like gmail stores them till evo fetches | 19:57 |
| Squirm | no | 19:57 |
| Kilos | ty superfly Squirm i very happy now | 19:57 |
| Squirm | so if I send you an email and my server can;t contact yours, it'll be undelivered | 19:58 |
| Squirm | we recently got a dyndns mail backup account | 19:58 |
| Squirm | stupid power/internet issues we have at work... | 19:58 |
| Squirm | hosting your own servers can be a bit of a pain | 19:59 |
| Squirm | (when the environment can be unstable) | 19:59 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:59 |
| Kilos | so this whole prob was around the resolvconf thing | 20:00 |
| Squirm | twice this year, we've had 4/5 days without electricity | 20:00 |
| Squirm | that means no email is delivered, website is down | 20:00 |
| Kilos | why do they make it to that other ip | 20:00 |
| Kilos | eeek | 20:00 |
| Squirm | Kilos: I think it was resolvconf | 20:00 |
| Squirm | out of airtime | 20:01 |
| Kilos | the fly said so days ago | 20:01 |
| Squirm | and it's the 30th :/ | 20:01 |
| Kilos | aw | 20:01 |
| Kilos | aw and you gotta wait till the first | 20:01 |
| Kilos | go swimming all day tomorrow | 20:02 |
| Kilos | and night | 20:02 |
| * Squirm just tops up with R12 | 20:03 | |
| Kilos | good lad | 20:03 |
| magespawn | if i do ifconfig -a i get a list of interfaces | 20:03 |
| magespawn | what is pan0 | 20:03 |
| magespawn | ? | 20:03 |
| Squirm | well, I know pan stands for personal are network | 20:03 |
| Squirm | iirc, something like bluetooth | 20:04 |
| magespawn | ahh yes the bluetooth | 20:04 |
| magespawn | that is why the other laptop does not have it | 20:04 |
| Kilos | aw i gotta go turn off the cdrom there now | 20:06 |
| Kilos | in sources | 20:06 |
| Squirm | Kilos: put a # in front of the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list | 20:07 |
| Kilos | ok ty Squirm | 20:07 |
| Squirm | so don't delete the lines, you might want to use them later | 20:07 |
| Squirm | I think it's time for a cold shower - then bed | 20:07 |
| Kilos | ok it actually complained that it was looking at cdrom twice | 20:07 |
| Kilos | night Squirm sleep tight | 20:08 |
| magespawn | night Squirm | 20:08 |
| Squirm | might be back in 10 | 20:08 |
| magespawn | thats cool too | 20:08 |
| Kilos | i could also use that cdrom to install a gui or any software from ubuntu there too methinks | 20:09 |
| * Kilos waits for bombs | 20:10 | |
| Squirm | Kilos: if you put an ubuntu desktop cd in, you could | 20:10 |
| Kilos | very cool idea that | 20:10 |
| Kilos | but lemme get used to playing with another pc from here first | 20:11 |
| Squirm | if it's the same release | 20:11 |
| Kilos | ya i havent gone 12.10 anywhere yet | 20:11 |
| Squirm | aptoncd is quite nice | 20:11 |
| Squirm | haven't used it for a few years though | 20:11 |
| Kilos | dont work anymore | 20:11 |
| Kilos | worked well on maverick. opened in synaptic | 20:12 |
| Squirm | :/ | 20:12 |
| Kilos | here it doesnt anymore | 20:12 |
| Squirm | oh yes, shower | 20:12 |
| Kilos | you gotta go to each package and use gdebi | 20:12 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:12 |
| magespawn | Kilos if you can ssh into the server machine then you can run it from this machine | 20:12 |
| magespawn | no need for a gui | 20:13 |
| Kilos | i have just run sudo apt-get update from here magespawn | 20:13 |
| Kilos | very cool | 20:13 |
| Kilos | can throw away that screen and mouse | 20:13 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:13 |
| Kilos | do you ever need to ssh from there | 20:14 |
| magespawn | well there are somethings that can only be done on that machine like if ifup and ifdown | 20:14 |
| Kilos | but i can give it a tiny old screen hey? | 20:15 |
| Kilos | from my old 486 | 20:15 |
| Kilos | itys only cli | 20:15 |
| magespawn | indeed | 20:16 |
| Kilos | then i can start working on ians pc with the server screen | 20:17 |
| Kilos | yay | 20:17 |
| Kilos | can you ssh to winsucks pcs too | 20:18 |
| magespawn | Kilos you there? | 20:20 |
| Kilos | wb mrs_fly superfly magespawn | 20:20 |
| superfly | gee, thanks Freenode | 20:20 |
| Kilos | simeon, too | 20:20 |
| magespawn | lol | 20:20 |
| Kilos | 70 packages to upgrade magespawn | 20:20 |
| magespawn | hectic | 20:21 |
| Kilos | Need to get 259 kB/97,0 MB of archives. | 20:21 |
| Kilos | i love rsync of archives | 20:21 |
| Kilos | saves a fortune in airtime | 20:22 |
| Kilos | Installing new version of config file /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/000resolvconf ... | 20:26 |
| Kilos | Installing new version of config file /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/000resolvconf ... | 20:26 |
| Kilos | maybe my probs were because it wasnt updated yet | 20:27 |
| Kilos | i must be like smile now and send hugs to superfly Squirm and magespawn | 20:28 |
| Kilos | thanks so much guys | 20:28 |
| magespawn | np just chatting and learning | 20:31 |
| Kilos | ya but to me its worth so much | 20:31 |
| magespawn | Kilos you want to try something else? | 20:31 |
| Kilos | yes | 20:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:31 |
| Kilos | hope i dont have to bother the fly | 20:32 |
| magespawn | can you ping gnc.no-ip.biz? | 20:32 |
| Kilos | from server? | 20:32 |
| magespawn | from either machine | 20:32 |
| Kilos | oh ya i forget ssh | 20:32 |
| superfly | magespawn: I use afraid.org | 20:33 |
| Kilos | doesnt look like it | 20:33 |
| magespawn | are they good superfly? | 20:33 |
| superfly | magespawn: forgot what I used to set it to work automatically (maybe it's part of Arno's, I can't remember) | 20:33 |
| superfly | magespawn: from what I've heard, yes | 20:34 |
| superfly | magespawn: and then you use cnames like crazy | 20:34 |
| magespawn | try from the desktop Kilos | 20:34 |
| Squirm | so much better | 20:35 |
| Kilos | 64 bytes from 41-133-67-185.dsl.mweb.co.za (41.133.67.185): icmp_req=4 ttl=53 time=156 ms | 20:35 |
| Kilos | ^C | 20:35 |
| Kilos | works fro here | 20:35 |
| Kilos | from | 20:35 |
| Kilos | see now we start again. why not from server too | 20:35 |
| Kilos | grrr | 20:35 |
| magespawn | what is your email? msdomdonner@gmail.com? | 20:35 |
| Kilos | yip | 20:36 |
| magespawn | okay sending you a mail | 20:36 |
| magespawn | check the email | 20:37 |
| magespawn | then | 20:37 |
| magespawn | "ssh kilos@gnc.no-ip.biz" | 20:38 |
| Kilos | whew | 20:38 |
| Kilos | sec | 20:38 |
| magespawn | superfly i got the ddclient to work | 20:40 |
| Squirm | hah! sun never got a hold of me today, spf40 did the trick :) along with shade | 20:41 |
| Kilos | magespawn, Permission denied (publickey,password). | 20:41 |
| magespawn | cool Squirm | 20:41 |
| Kilos | it ran that keything again and i typed yes | 20:41 |
| magespawn | should allow you access with the password in the email | 20:41 |
| Kilos | dont accept password | 20:41 |
| magespawn | hmmm maybe did something wrong then | 20:42 |
| Kilos | cool its not just me | 20:42 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:42 |
| Squirm | problem with mobile internet, is I could never ssh into the box behind it | 20:42 |
| Kilos | explain that nicely Squirm | 20:43 |
| Squirm | so... | 20:44 |
| Kilos | you mean via internet | 20:44 |
| Squirm | as an example. I probably won't be able to ssh into your pc | 20:44 |
| Squirm | via the net | 20:44 |
| superfly | Anyone seen adverts for a movie called "Adventures in Zambezia" ? | 20:44 |
| Kilos | ah | 20:44 |
| Kilos | nope | 20:44 |
| Squirm | superfly: no | 20:45 |
| Kilos | on idiot boxes superfly ? | 20:45 |
| superfly | Kilos: in cinema, it came out on Friday | 20:45 |
| Kilos | oh still new | 20:45 |
| superfly | ja | 20:45 |
| superfly | actually old -_- | 20:45 |
| * superfly has been waiting for more than a year to see it | 20:46 | |
| Kilos | not on tv yet i mean | 20:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, nowhere near TV yet | 20:46 |
| Kilos | will be on mnet soon i think | 20:46 |
| Kilos | they get it first | 20:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: only once Sony has released the rights | 20:46 |
| magespawn | Squirm you would some how need to forward the port | 20:46 |
| Kilos | ah | 20:46 |
| magespawn | not sure how/if possible on a dongle | 20:47 |
| Kilos | i can give you lotsa info on that Squirm | 20:47 |
| Squirm | magespawn: yep. and you can;t exactly ask your mobile provider to do that for you | 20:47 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's a movie that some of my friends made | 20:47 |
| Squirm | magespawn: it's on the providers side. you kind of connect to their router | 20:47 |
| Kilos | about superfly ? | 20:47 |
| superfly | Squirm: ssh out or ssh in? | 20:47 |
| Squirm | superfly: in | 20:47 |
| superfly | Kilos: a hawk named Kai who goes to live in a bird city called Zambezia | 20:47 |
| magespawn | might be able to if you had a mobile router | 20:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:48 |
| superfly | Squirm: which SP? | 20:48 |
| Squirm | vodacom | 20:48 |
| superfly | Squirm: you need to register for the Unrestricted APN | 20:48 |
| Squirm | oh | 20:48 |
| Squirm | does it cost? | 20:48 |
| superfly | no, you just need to sign an application form and fax or e-mail it back to them | 20:49 |
| Squirm | that's quite cool. don't really have need of it anymore. but that's useful info | 20:49 |
| Kilos | you fone them to do that superfly ? | 20:49 |
| superfly | more of an indemnity form than an application form... | 20:49 |
| Kilos | ill ask 8ta tomorrow | 20:49 |
| Kilos | if i member. its way past my bedtime but was a successful day so im happy | 20:51 |
| Kilos | magespawn, you fixed it yet? | 20:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:51 |
| Squirm | ah, 11 already | 20:52 |
| magespawn | no yet Kilos | 20:52 |
| Squirm | forgot to go to bed early | 20:52 |
| Kilos | oh maybe i gotta get unrestricted first | 20:52 |
| Squirm | might not sleep tomorrow night | 20:52 |
| Kilos | lol @ Squirm | 20:52 |
| Squirm | night all | 20:53 |
| Kilos | night Squirm | 20:54 |
| Kilos | again | 20:54 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 20:54 |
| Kilos | whew bad end to year we min here | 20:59 |
| Kilos | too many peeps on holiday | 21:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wat's fout? | 21:02 |
| Kilos | ek kan server ssh en updtae/upgrade | 21:02 |
| Kilos | w00t | 21:02 |
| Kilos | naand boetie | 21:02 |
| inetpro | pragtig! | 21:02 |
| Kilos | niks fout nie | 21:02 |
| inetpro | goeie dag oom | 21:03 |
| Kilos | was n resolvconf prob | 21:03 |
| magespawn | try now Kilos | 21:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: maar dit is 23:04 en jy steeds wakker | 21:04 |
| Kilos | ja man ek is te bly om te slaap | 21:05 |
| magespawn | hey inetpro | 21:05 |
| inetpro | good morning magespawn | 21:05 |
| magespawn | you somewhere else? | 21:06 |
| inetpro | magespawn: no not really | 21:06 |
| Kilos | Permission denied, please try again. | 21:06 |
| Kilos | he just sleeps and works funny hours magespawn | 21:06 |
| magespawn | hmm wonder what is not right | 21:06 |
| * inetpro just woke up in the #ubuntu-za house | 21:06 | |
| magespawn | i see | 21:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 21:07 |
| Kilos | waits till family is asleep then sneaks to pc | 21:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: exactly | 21:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 21:07 |
| Kilos | with sound off | 21:08 |
| magespawn | Kilos looks like the experiment will have to wait till tomorrow | 21:10 |
| magespawn | like most ppl with family | 21:11 |
| magespawn | i need to restart my ssh server which is a bit hard to do over ssh | 21:13 |
| Kilos | np magespawn | 21:14 |
| Kilos | good idea to sleep some methinks | 21:14 |
| Kilos | night all of you and ty again | 21:14 |
| magespawn | night Kilos | 21:14 |
| magespawn | i am also off, night all | 21:18 |
| superfly | Ladies and gents, I think it is time for my afternoon nap. Good day to you all. | 22:08 |
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