=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:59] morning all [10:06] wb Kilos [10:06] '< [10:06] hi Cantide ty [10:06] CanStudy is AWOL [10:07] but now i don't know what to do with myself [10:07] haha [10:07] lol [10:08] it's also too hot to do anything -.- [10:08] yeah is a bit warm today [10:08] i could a) clean my room b) do some programming c) do nothing [10:08] right now i am doing c :) [10:08] hehe [10:29] Last night i got abit too drunk [10:29] i woke up [10:29] i shouldnt of driven hom in that state [10:29] now i have to get a new tyre [10:30] I dont remember much. [10:30] ouch [10:30] I think it was a good night though. [10:30] but I really should not drink that much. ;-) [10:31] I was kind of sad last night though, so i needed cheering up. [10:31] I think i spent like 120 ounds too [10:31] meh :) [16:22] good afternoon [16:22] Maaz: coffee on [16:22] * Maaz puts the kettle on [16:22] hi charl_ [16:22] Maaz, coffee please [16:22] Kilos: Sure [16:22] Maaz, large [16:22] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [16:23] hi Kilos [16:23] lol a beer mug full of coffee [16:24] i tried out my new coffee machine today but i forgot to buy coffee pads yesterday so i just did a "test run" with some clean water [16:24] coffee filters i mean [16:24] lol [16:24] did you enjoy it [16:25] hahaha [16:25] lol no the clean water i just threw away [16:26] but it's a good idea to wear the machine in because a lot of it is a type of plastic [16:26] what a waste you shoulda added some sugar and instant coffee [16:26] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [16:26] Maaz, ty [16:26] You are welcome Kilos [16:26] lol no instant coffee is gross [16:26] Maaz: thanks [16:26] charl_: No problem [16:27] i actually have a nice pot though, it's not a glass pot but a thermoflask type pot [16:27] so it keeps the coffee warm for a long time [16:27] ah [16:27] i can make a few cups at a time and enjoy it during the morning [16:28] nice [16:28] up until thus far i've been using senseo which is a coffee pad system [16:28] but i don't like the coffee that comes in the pads [16:28] it's not good coffee [16:28] it's handy though because you can make fresh coffee one cup at a time [16:29] dont you get nescafee classic and gold there [16:29] thats lekker instant coffee [16:29] yes we get nescafe but it's gross [16:29] or i don't like it, in any case [16:29] not the cheap one man [16:30] dunno i've tried a few ones but they all seem to be pretty bad [16:30] there is actually one nescafe product which isn't too bad [16:30] it's called dolce gusto [16:31] you have to buy these little cups and a special machine [16:31] we get ricoffy which is better than any other brand and then the expensive ones that are just as good as perculated without the hassle [16:31] but they are rather expensive - for about 10 you pay 3 euro [16:32] actually i guess 0.30 cent per cup isn't that bad if you don't drink too much coffee [16:33] thing i don't like about instant coffee is they usually throw sugars and other nonsense in there as well [16:33] so you end up drinking a brew of artificial ingredients [16:33] maltodextrin and what else [16:33] oh no we get coffee in glass bottles or tins the cheaper brands [16:34] za still has advantages over you euro peeps [16:35] in south africa i used to buy bags of coffee the same as here but it was quite expensive down there [16:35] i would pay 2x as much for the same amount of coffee than what i do here [16:35] just usual filter coffee i mean [16:35] good coffee is expensive here [16:36] yeah i wonder why that is, considering africa makes some of the best coffee :) [16:36] when i used to visit kenya i used to drink really good kenyan coffee and it's cheap there [16:36] but if you buy it anywhere else in the world it's some of the most expensive stuff [16:36] the tea is also extremely good in kenya [16:36] ya up there they grow the stuff, not here [16:36] yeah south africa has wine and hop [16:37] grapes and hop i mean [16:39] ok dinner time for me [16:39] bbl [16:39] if I'm making real coffee, I grind the beans myself. ground coffee from the shops is stale [16:40] because it just stands there because of the price superfly [16:40] only cheap stuff moves [16:41] Kilos: it's stale after an hour [16:41] eeek [16:41] exactly [16:41] and you drink it [16:41] whew [16:47] i even enjoy ricoffy now and again [17:02] evening [17:17] hey Squirm [17:20] Kilos: I drink ricoffy most of the time, real coffee is very expensive [17:21] ah ricoffy is nice too [17:22] another nice one was encore but also got epensive [17:22] expensive [17:29] superfly, is there a way to resolve that conflict. i still get that same output [17:30] will uncommenting that line let one change it [17:30] http://slexy.org/view/s2b8UYA84L [17:30] hey magespawn i can ssh the server [17:31] can install etc from here but in cli only. spose thats right [17:32] Kilos: did you restart your networking like I told you to? [17:32] yessir but from the server [17:32] dont work from here [17:32] also rebooted [17:33] I told you, you have to run it on the server - it won't work from ssh [17:34] yip i did it [17:34] did you save that file like I told you to? [17:34] but still no internet [17:34] the nano one? [17:34] Kilos: you have internet, you just don't have DNS [17:34] yes [17:35] ctrl o enter yes [17:35] Kilos: did you do it on the right computer? [17:36] oh my [17:36] another nice day at the dam :) [17:40] cant find that command now. superfly was it sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf ? [17:41] no [17:41] or another file [17:42] i know in nm i did the 8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4 in dns [17:42] sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces [17:43] on this pc hey? [17:43] no on the server [17:43] ok i go see ty [17:44] ok back [17:44] superfly: that's a good idea generally speaking but i rarely have that much time in the morning ;) [17:44] maybe over a weekend or so [17:44] but during the week i just buy it pre-ground [17:45] yeah i did it there superfly [17:45] dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4 [17:50] now i did sudo ifdown eth1 and sudo ifup eth1 on the server [17:58] Kilos: did it change anything? [17:59] i dont know what to look for. superfly [17:59] it can still ping 8.8.8.8 [18:00] * smile2013 pings Kilos [18:00] :DD [18:00] smile2013, pong [18:00] :) [18:01] but cant ping www.google.com [18:01] unknown host www.google.com [18:02] Kilos: your DNS doesn't work :p [18:02] * Kilos cries [18:02] :'( [18:02] dunno if i must ssh from here first [18:06] I don't know too [18:06] :p [18:06] lol [18:07] its a prob that can only be sorted by very clever peeps [18:07] experienced peeps [18:10] Hey Kilos [18:10] hey magespawn [18:10] hi smile2013 [18:10] how's it going? [18:11] Still struggling with the dns [18:11] Hey charl_ smile2013 [18:12] hi magespawn [18:12] hi charl_ & magespawn :) [18:13] charl_: fine :D [18:13] you? :) [18:13] yeah magespawn [18:13] good [18:13] can't complain thanks [18:13] :DD [18:13] * smile2013 neither can [18:13] :) [18:13] the fireworks are cracking outside but it's very silent compared to last year [18:13] i can actually install from here if i put the cd in there and cli from here [18:13] we have an incredible south-westerly wind here though [18:13] and it's raining [18:13] I was able to shrink the installer size from 6,5 to 5,5 megabyte :) [18:14] Removed some unneeded features :p [18:14] installer of? [18:15] a custom chatzilla version :D [18:15] interesting [18:15] specially made for #hugsmile :) [18:15] autojoins the channel :p [18:15] and hides some components of chatzilla [18:15] to simplify its interface for newbies [18:15] :) [18:15] sounds cool [18:16] Brb. [18:16] charl_: I will be soon releasing 3.0 :) [18:18] :DD [18:18] nice [18:18] i have been working on something irc related myself for a while just for fun [18:18] only for windows :'( [18:18] but should run on wine fine :) [18:18] a bot that gathers information about any given url and sends a message back to the channel [18:19] cool. :p [18:19] the latest code is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1479505/ [18:19] they have something similar in #ubuntu-de [18:20] like maaz? :p [18:20] an ibid? [18:20] nah very different [18:20] maaz is more general purpose [18:21] Maaz, is a cool bot [18:21] Kilos: Excuse me? [18:21] hehe [18:21] maaz makes us coffee :) [18:21] charl_: *blink* [18:21] he's the maid of this channel [18:21] or perhaps the butler :) [18:21] Maaz: you're our butler right? [18:21] charl_: *blink* [18:21] charl_: he confirms :p [18:21] Maaz, is a cool bot [18:21] Oh I know! [18:22] hehe [18:22] if this world runs out of lovers, we still have each other, Maaz :) [18:22] he ignores me :p [18:22] (..searching.. no pattern found in databases -> blink?) [18:22] tell him you love him [18:22] :) [18:23] Maaz: I still love you [18:23] smile2013: Excuse me? [18:23] not still man [18:23] Maaz: Do you want to marry me? :D [18:23] smile2013: Excuse me? [18:23] :( [18:23] Maaz: I love you [18:23] smile2013 Don't embarrass youself. You aren't a cyber chick [18:23] :p [18:23] do you love Maaz too, Kilos ? :p [18:24] yeah he has helped me often because i hate googling [18:25] :) [18:25] * smile2013 does !g keyword if he wants to google something [18:25] the temperature of the climate in this channel has just risen with 5 degrees :) [18:25] My default search engine is duckduckgo :) [18:25] charl_: cool. How warm is it here now? :) [18:26] if it's a south african channel probably 40 now :) [18:27] we were 33°c today and its just started storming [18:28] but not cooled down yet [18:28] :S [18:28] when it gets 30 here i almost feel like dying :) [18:28] i run into the forest, there it's nice and cool [18:29] i used to live right on the edge of the forest, now it's a bit further away [18:29] there by mage they often have 40°c and up some [18:29] charl_: too hot ;) [18:31] :D [18:32] bah [18:32] you wanna kill me :) [18:32] actually i have had that before in botswana [18:32] but the benefit is it is very dry in the desert [18:34] http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rekonq&diff=34183926&oldid=33978752 :) [18:40] cool [18:40] i need to move back to kde [18:40] i keep getting crashes in gnome3 [18:40] i held out for long enough but am getting tired now [18:40] it's a pity because outside of stability issues gnome3 is pretty cool [18:44] charl_: you use GNOME 3? :o [18:45] I gave up once I knew about it xD [18:45] I was on LXDE at that time [18:45] I just changed to Enlightenment and that's where I'm still today. :) [18:47] using xfce on my netbook(not bad) and just mint mate on my desktop and work machine [18:47] well, xubuntu on my netbook [18:48] i've tried lxde and generally speaking it's quite nice [18:48] i didn't like the terminal emulator though [18:48] i think it didn't have enough keyboard shortcuts [18:48] but the benefit of using linux is that you can easily switch out different components if you want [18:48] it was a little lightweight for me, but I understand it does it's job well [18:48] sakura isn't a bad emulator [18:48] so for example you could just switch out lxde's terminal emulator with xfce's [18:49] sakura... can't say i've used it [18:49] sounds like a japanese name [18:51] charl_: I like lxterminal, just because it's so minimal :p [18:51] I disliked the tab feature, however [18:52] and I've just hidden it :p [18:52] to each their own - when it comes to linux [18:52] yeah exactly, the tabs didn't work well for me, but if i remember correctly there were more [18:53] Squirm: yeah that's why i like linux [18:54] charl_: do you speak Afrikaans good enough? :p [18:54] s/good/well [18:54] * Squirm runs [18:55] Squirm: :o [18:55] hehe [18:55] :) [18:55] :) [19:11] back [19:11] man that took awhile to connect properly [19:11] wb magespawn [19:12] Kilos did you get the dns sorted? [19:12] nope magespawn [19:12] still dont work [19:12] sigh [19:13] what i dont savvy is why [19:13] why can it ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com or co.za [19:13] grrr [19:14] it can ping an ip but not the address because dns takes the word address and translates it into the ip number for the computer [19:14] hold on a second [19:16] try to ping 165.165.38.44 [19:16] * Kilos holds [19:18] and? [19:18] magespawn, i can ping it from here with ssh runing [19:18] running [19:18] seems to be a dns thing [19:19] if you can ping an IP and not a domain name, I blame dns [19:19] so i see slowP4 in cli not P4 which is this one [19:19] definately dns like superfly said, but why is the question. [19:19] ya but the fly got me to set dns servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 in nm [19:20] so i dunno [19:20] Kilos: I know you've been through this, what what was in resolv.conf? [19:20] s/was/is [19:20] but i still get that resolv.conf error [19:20] 127.0.0.1 [19:20] Squirm: ^^ [19:21] charl_: i just read the logs about your bot program [19:21] ty superfly i woulda had to run it again to see [19:21] are going to open source it? [19:21] but that is a loop back address [19:22] magespawn: yes [19:22] Kilos: what is eth0 if you have eth1 ? [19:22] superfly: wouldn't "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in resolv.conf work? [19:23] this nm shows as eth0 but any command with eth0 doesnt work [19:23] Squirm: not if it is overwritten every time a nic changes [19:23] Kilos: forget the computer you're on, it has no problems [19:23] Kilos: don't even compare the two, cause that's where you start getting confused [19:23] oh isnt it this nm thats doing wrong things [19:24] Kilos: who said it was? [19:24] it used to show mac address but empty now too [19:24] well thats where i set ips and so isnt it [19:25] and the server needs to follow whats setup in this nm [19:26] so they are linked to the prob, not so? [19:27] superfly: if the interface is set to dhcp, maybe it writes over the resolv.conf? [19:27] Squirm: it isn't [19:27] it's hard-coded [19:28] Kilos: since when does the server have to know what's in your computer's NM? [19:28] well it has to be forwarded with nat through 192.168.1.1 [19:28] not so [19:29] Kilos: that has nothing to do with NM [19:29] superfly: I don't know if you can edit the /etc/resolv.conf, maybe you have to edit something like /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head [19:29] oh [19:29] I seem to remember having to do that on my ltsp clients [19:30] Squirm: apparently if you just set the dns-nameservers value in /etc/network/interfaces under the correct interface, it will set resolv.conf [19:30] see ya! :D [19:30] thanks for helping, Kilos :) [19:30] toods smile2013 [19:30] bye smile2013 [19:30] yw [19:30] Kilos: in ssh, cat /etc/network/interfaces and then copy and paste the text from your terminal into pastebin [19:30] good night, Squirm & Kilos & super [19:30] ok [19:30] (superfly) [19:31] night smile2013 [19:31] thanks :) [19:32] http://slexy.org/view/s2EFjMIOp7 [19:33] magespawn: it's just a little script but as far as i'm concerned it's public property [19:33] public domain i mean [19:33] i just thought it might be good to involve others [19:34] magespawn: if somebody wants to, i think it would be a great idea to create a proper project out of it [19:35] magespawn: but i don't just want to create yet another one-man project [19:35] i see [19:35] magespawn: it could be interesting, i had some ideas of scraping for microformats etc as well [19:35] what language are you writing in? [19:35] just java at the moment [19:36] i use some libraries like jsoup that are also java so it's the easiest [19:36] superfly, http://slexy.org/view/s2EFjMIOp7 [19:36] Kilos: I saw that, it looks fine [19:36] i unfortunately do not know that much yet i am just learning python [19:37] i see it would only work with resolvconf [19:37] I coded mine into the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head [19:37] so when it updates, it updates with the head and the base. so no matter what the other nameservers are, it'll always be there [19:39] hehe when the server screen goes off everytime i wiggle the mouse then only twig its keyboard only [19:40] nn all [19:40] night charl_ [19:40] grrr [19:41] as an side question, where would a wireless network connection show u? [19:41] s/u/up [19:41] magespawn: /etc/network/interface [19:42] s [19:42] hmm [19:42] though on my netbook it isn't [19:42] maybe nm takes over completely [19:43] interfaces [19:43] http://slexy.org/view/s2TdeEuao6 [19:43] my ethernet port doesn;t show either [19:43] * Squirm blames nm [19:43] magespawn: mine looks the same. see, no ethernet [19:43] Squirm, its interfaces [19:43] so I blame nm [19:44] Kilos: it gets set there if you don't have a network manager [19:44] oh my [19:44] never ends [19:44] which is what you're doing on your server [19:44] Squirm: network manager does not exist on the server, so it has nothing to do with the problem [19:44] network manager only in the gui? [19:45] superfly: not saying it does, I know it isn't the issue. just answering magespawn [19:45] magespawn: on desktop systems network manager controls the interfaces [19:46] ahh right that is why the difference [19:47] Kilos: in ssh, please give this a try [19:47] echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head [19:47] ok [19:48] then restart networking [19:48] Squirm: that won't work [19:48] this is from my server http://slexy.org/view/s20X8qEzZg [19:48] superfly: why's that? [19:48] Squirm: he's not root [19:48] i went root superfly [19:49] magespawn: your eth1 interface is configured to use DHCP [19:49] Kilos: bad idea [19:49] always sudo [19:49] those other 3 commands only work from root [19:49] indeed it is superfly from the adsl router [19:49]