[00:00] <f^3> Is there a unity channel?
[00:01] <cuddylier> How do I update my java 7? My version doesn't include jstack, I have jdk
[00:01] <cuddylier> openjdk
[00:01] <jhansonxi> f^3: Try #ubuntu-unity
[00:01] <Neytiri> thanks
[00:02] <Mech0z> any way to remove all settings for an app installed with apt-get?
[00:03] <gac> Mech0z: "apt-get purge packagename" should remove all config files that were shipped with it, if they were created by you after it was installed that won't work though.
[00:06] <KI4RO> KBentley57, Well, I made it back with a new BIOS LOL  No change in the RESTART button
[00:06] <Ledder> alfabit i still got the same problem
[00:07] <Mech0z> gac cool
[00:07] <Neytiri> how do i find out where a library got installed
[00:07] <Ledder> alfabit and i can't manage to uninstall it
[00:07] <KI4RO> KBentley57, Do I need to clean up after myself in pastebin?
[00:08] <cuddylier> How do I update my java 7jdk? My version doesn't include jstack unfortunately.
[00:08] <alfabit> Ledder: Try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox
[00:09] <mcsmash> Who's idea was it to move handling the video into the kernel?  I spotted a web site that said it was to enable high resolution non flickering splash screen.  Tell me there was another reason for doing that...
[00:10] <Ledder> alfabit "No suitable module for running kernel found"
[00:10] <alfabit> Ledder: that's normal. Now we just need to get it to make that module..
[00:10] <alfabit> Ledder: sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms
[00:11] <Ledder> ok and that's the question how we get htat done
[00:11] <jhansonxi> Neytiri: dpkg-query -S <filename>
[00:11] <alfabit> mcsmash: look up 'Wayland' some time if you want to read all about it..
[00:12] <cuddylier> How do I update my java 7jdk? My version doesn't include jstack unfortunately.
[00:12] <alfabit> mcsmash: Unfortunately it did break a lot of things on the way.
[00:12] <Ledder> ok no fail message with the dkms
[00:13] <alfabit> Ledder, now try sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox  (yup - again)
[00:13] <Ledder> alfabit you suggest i try again or something else to do?
[00:13] <alfabit> Ledder, let's see if you get the error about no modules again, now that dkms sources are installed.
[00:13] <Ledder> twice a ok
[00:14] <Ledder> looks not bad
[00:14] <alfabit> Ledder, now what happens when you start VirtualBox ?
[00:14] <Ledder> ok i try to remake a win7 installation
[00:15] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: Are you having problems getting your system to restart properly?
[00:16] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, Yes
[00:16] <Ledder> ok windows is loading but is giving an error message
[00:16] <jhansonxi> Try adding the "reboot=bios" kernel parameter to your grub boot line
[00:16] <Ledder> wich is related to the iso source
[00:16] <Ledder> i guess
[00:18] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: In addition to the "reboot=bios" parameter, there are several other possible options: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[00:18] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, reboot=bios?  What is that?
[00:19] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: It tells the kernel to use a different method when attempting to restart the system.
[00:19] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, Okay, never tried that...how does it work?
[00:20] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:20] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, okay
[00:22] <Stars> i need some help with tar a backup, how do i write excluded some folders?
[00:23] <Ledder> alfabit virtualbox is runnign correctly but windows is causing problems
[00:23] <Ledder> and i'm not sure if it's my config odr something else
[00:23] <alfabit> Ledder: can't help ya there! :-)
[00:23] <Ledder> ok but thx so long for the virtualbox
[00:24] <alfabit> Ledder, sure np. Check out the forums, I am sure other people have documented what windows requires.
[00:24] <Ledder> will do so
[00:24] <teclado> hello, sorry for interrupt. Is there somebody who can help me with a problem with nautilus? Its menus has dissapeared!
[00:25] <KangArie> Ledder, what kind of problem? any error messages?
[00:25] <Ledder> Error message:
[00:25] <nono> sudo dpkg-reconfigure nautilus
[00:26] <teclado> if that one has spoken spanish the thing would be easier
[00:26] <Ledder> Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause
[00:26] <teclado> no effect
[00:27] <nono> nautilus -q
[00:28] <teclado> ok
[00:28] <teclado> that worked fine
[00:28] <nono> :-)
[00:28] <teclado> thank you
[00:29] <teclado> i hope not have to do it too often
[00:32] <KangArie> Ledder, what windows version? XP, 7, 8 ?
[00:32] <Shuboni_> Good evening, I was hoping someone could help me out with a problem I'm having.  It's kind of going in circles, and has been for a while now.
[00:33] <KangArie> Shuboni_, what problem?
[00:34] <Shuboni_> Well, I'm trying to install Steam.  When I try to install it using gdebi, it says that I need zenity 3.4.0.  So, I try to install zenity, again with gdebi.  I get an error saying I need zenity-common.
[00:34] <Ledder> 7 i try
[00:35] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Use your package manager to install Zenity (Ubuntu Software Center, Synaptic Package Manager, aptitude, apt-get, etc.)
[00:35] <Shuboni_> I tried, but the package manager says that I already have it.
[00:35] <Shuboni_> Yet, Steam says I don't.
[00:36] <Shuboni_> Er... gdebi says I don't when I try to install Steam
[00:37] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Try: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:38] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  Let me try that.
[00:38] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Note that the steam package is just a downloader for the client.  Each user has to install their own copy of the client.  They will be prompted to do so when they log in.
[00:41] <Shuboni_> So, I tried sudo apt-get -f install, then I looked in the software center, and that said that I already had it installed.  I tried installing Steam using gdebi, and I got this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: zenity (>= 3.4.0-0ubuntu4)
[00:41] <jrib> Shuboni_: apt-cache policy zenity
[00:41] <jrib> Shuboni_: first run "sudo apt-get update" though
[00:42] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Then it's not missing but the version installed is too old for Steam
[00:42] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:43] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi: I'm using 11.04
[00:43] <alfabit> Shuboni_, yes, I am on 12.10 and I have 3.4.0-2. Looks like they didn't leave much room for older versions.
[00:43] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Steam is targeting Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[00:43] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  I had a lot of problems installing 12.04, that's why I stuck with 11.04.
[00:44] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: The version of Zenity in the 11.04 repositories is apparently too old.
[00:45] <jacesf> for some reason i get sound only from one website, my personal music server. i get no audio through amarok, mocp, pandora website, nothing. any ideas?
[00:45] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  Does this mean that the only way for me to get this to work is to upgrade to 12.04?
[00:46] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: You could try 12.10 or, depending on the problems you encountered, Linux Mint 13 or newer.  It's probably not feasible to get Zenity on 11.04 but you could look for a PPA or backports with the newer Zenity.
[00:47] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  I'm sorry, could you explain how I might go about doing that?
[00:49] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: "PPA" repositories are unsupported repositories from various individuals.  Search for "zenity ppa" to see if any exist then check them for packages for "natty" (the release name for 11.04).  The "backports" repositories are semi-official and can be enabled through Synaptic.
[00:51] <alfabit> I am fighting a Streamzap infrared remote + infrared receiver on Ubuntu. Have a 10.10 installation and a 12.04 and live CDs for 11.10 and 12.10.
[00:52] <mrgt> ubuntu won't boot. getting "gave up waiting for root device" message.
[00:52] <alfabit> The Streamzap is detected on all releases but only mode2 shows keypresses, nothing in irw.
[00:53] <alfabit> Does anyone here have a working remote control setup on any recent Ubuntu release ?
[00:53] <jhansonxi> mrgt: Couldn't find the / volume.  Is this a new install or a previously functioning Ubuntu system?
[00:55] <Shuboni_> How do you enable the backports repositories?
[00:55] <mrgt> jhansonxi, previously functioning. In additional drivers I selected the experimental driver to try and get my screen to adjust to the correct resolution . Suppose that's what I get for selecting something like that : /
[00:56] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: In the Synaptic package manager there is a menu option for configuring repositories.  The other method is to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file directly (not recommended unless you know what you are doing).
[00:57] <jhansonxi> mrgt: A video driver shouldn't affect that.  But if the driver required the creation of a kernel image, and the system ran out of space on the / volume, the image may be incomplete.  Also, are you using RAID? Encryption?
[00:58] <mrgt> jhansonxi, that's weird. There was plenty of space.. I'm not using RAID or Encryption .
[00:59] <jhansonxi> mrgt: You can try a previous kernel by holding down the Shift key during boot (before Ubuntu loads) to access the grub boot menu.  Then select one of the other kernel images.  But it's possible that something else failed and the video driver change is coincidental.
[00:59] <mrgt> jhansonxi, okay. will do.
[01:00] <Shuboni_> Hey, jhansonxi , does 12.04 have those stupid app things on the side or does it have a toolbar like 11.04?  That was the biggest problem when I tried to install it.
[01:00] <hangdeadman> Hey my wireless mouse just stopped working on ubuntu 12.04 how can I figure out what the problem is?
[01:00] <mrgt> jhansonxi, at the grub menu. I get 4 options. Which one should I select?
[01:01] <alfabit> hangdeadman, check the batteries ?
[01:01] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, renew the battery's and see if that solves it
[01:01] <mrgt> jhansonxi, I get Ubuntu, Advanced Options.., Memory test.., memory test
[01:01] <jacesf> for some reason i get sound only from one website, my personal music server. i get no audio through amarok, mocp, pandora website, nothing. any ideas?\
[01:02] <jhansonxi> mrgt: The top one will be your current kernel.  Try an older version (if any).
[01:02] <hangdeadman> OerHeks:  batteries are good. the light is also still on on the mouse. it just doesn't move my pointer anymore. i have restarted my system and still have the same problem.
[01:02] <mrgt> jhansonxi, there doesn't seem to be an older one :/
[01:03] <mrgt> jhansonxi, oh.. wait
[01:03] <alfabit> hangdeadman, have you already un-plugged and re-plugged the wireless mouse receiver?
[01:03] <hangdeadman> alfabit: yes
[01:03] <alfabit> hangdeadman, while Ubuntu was running, right ?
[01:04] <hangdeadman> yes, also while the system was powered down.
[01:04] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, maybe the mouse is broken, if the light works but does not respond and unplug/plgin the adapter does not solve it
[01:05] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, you had problems with it yesterday too, didn't you ?
[01:05] <hangdeadman> no, this is the first time i've had problems with my mouse.
[01:06] <nono> http://www.ritimo.org/
[01:06] <alfabit> hangdeadman, yes, I agree with OerHeks, might be a good idea to verify on a 2nd computer, or while booted from a live CD..
[01:07] <hangdeadman> I'll try booting from a livecd as this is my only computer. I'll check back.
[01:11] <sinan> slmlar
[01:11] <Guest10928> slm
[01:11] <Guest10928> nick sinan
[01:13] <jhansonxi> mrgt: If this is a new installation then it won't have any older kernels because it has never updated the kernel yet.  One possibility - if you have (or had) a removable drive (USB flash, etc.) connected when you booted, it may cause the BIOS to change drive IDs which can confuse Grub.  Try removing it.
[01:25] <alcaprawn> I'm running latest ubuntu no compiz desktop effects and my ati hd 6870 idle temps are hitting 67c?
[01:25] <alcaprawn> it seems the fan it going quite alot too? any ideas guys
[01:25] <alcaprawn> in windows7 its around 40c max.
[01:26] <nardev> alcaprawn, don't you have anything smarter to do but playing with ui :D
[01:26] <alcaprawn> what are you talking about ?
[01:26] <alcaprawn> playing with ui?
[01:26] <alcaprawn> shut up fool.
[01:26] <nardev> alcaprawn, i was thinking how to help you :D
[01:27] <alcaprawn> you've no idea how to help me ^^
[01:27] <nono> http://grooveshark.com/search/song?q=Bob%20Dylan%20Hurricane
[01:27] <nardev> obviously you have much bigger problem than compiz...
[01:27] <alcaprawn> the ubuntu recomened drivers messed my x0rg up man.. so i installed barts_ati drivers
[01:27] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: Sounds like a bug.  Are you using the AMD fglrx driver?
[01:27] <alcaprawn> but now my cpu is hitting like 67c idle?
[01:28] <alcaprawn> nardev, if u can help please do so!
[01:28] <alcaprawn> i used to have aticonfig for cli, but now thats gone8
[01:28] <alcaprawn> jhansonxi: im sure its barts drivers
[01:28] <alcaprawn> how can i check though?
[01:28] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: The chip on the video card is a GPU, not CPU, or do you have a APU (combination CPU+GPU)
[01:28] <qkit> morning guys
[01:29] <alcaprawn> sorry did i say cpu?
[01:29] <nono> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/amd-ati
[01:29] <alcaprawn> yeh yeh gpu*
[01:29] <alcaprawn> im drunk out my head
[01:29] <qkit> i having problem trying to install my k3b
[01:29] <qkit> i keep getting k3b : Depends: kde-runtime but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <nono> alcaprawn: links!!
[01:29] <alfabit> qkit: Try: sudo apt-get install k3b kde-runtime
[01:29] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: "barts drivers"?
[01:30] <alfabit> yeah sounds fishy don't it ha!
[01:30] <jacesf> for some reason i get sound only from one website, my personal music server. i get no audio through amarok, mocp, pandora website, nothing. any ideas?\
[01:30] <nono> grooveshark
[01:31] <alfabit> jacesf, was thinking about that..no solutions, but some ideas. Sounds like something is tying up your sound card
[01:31] <qkit> alfabit: i'm getting k3b : Depends: libk3b6 (= 2.0.2-3ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <alfabit> jacesf, or maybe you don't have privs to the sound devices
[01:31] <OerHeks> nono grooveshark and french urls are not helpfull here
[01:31] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: "BARTS" appears to be the code name for the chip, not the driver: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/radeon.4.html
[01:31] <nono> DerHeks/ oki sorry
[01:32] <alfabit> qkit, maybe your package list is confused (a recent major version upgrade?)
[01:32] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: The Linux driver would be either fglrx (closed source driver from AMD) or radeon (open source)
[01:32] <jacesf> alfabit: not sure how long its been like this, just noticed it, prives should not have changed. I thought something using soundcard too but i rebooted....
[01:33] <alfabit> qkit: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install k3b
[01:33] <qkit> alfabit: i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[01:33]  * qkit trying 
[01:34] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: If you have the "AMD Catalyst Control Center" installed (look in your desktop menus) then you are using fglrx.
[01:34] <qkit> alfabit: i'm still getting the same error
[01:34] <alcaprawn> jhansonxi: last time i installed ati offical driver
[01:34] <alcaprawn> it messed my x0rg up
[01:34] <alcaprawn> and i had to reinstall
[01:35] <alfabit> qkit, you are on 12.04, how do you usually install packages? Did apt-get just stop working recently ?
[01:35] <alcaprawn> it did happen before but i forgot how i fixed it >.< and iv been using slackware ever since
[01:36] <qkit> alfabit: normally i using apt-get install
[01:36] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: There are two ways to install it - Jockey (the Ubuntu "Additional Drivers" applet) or manually using the installer from AMD's web site.  The radeon driver is missing many features and may not support power management on your card.
[01:37] <OerHeks> alcaprawn, maybe xorg-edgers ppa with newer drivers solve your issue > https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[01:38] <alfabit> qkit, are simpler packages installing correctly? (sudo apt-get install symlinks, for example?)
[01:38] <alcaprawn> latest ati drivers has bugs with latest xorg-version
[01:38] <alcaprawn> am i correct?
[01:38] <alfabit> qkit, just wondering if maybe there is a problem with the Ubuntu repo you are pointing at.
[01:39] <qkit> alfabit: yup that one installed successfully
[01:39] <alfabit> qkit, ok, good. What Ubuntu mirrors are you pointing at? (in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:40] <qkit> alfabit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <qkit> oops..
[01:40] <Pecker> does anyone know what kernel version support for the PS3's navigation controller was added in?
[01:41] <alfabit> qkit, hope you didn't try to paste :)
[01:41] <qkit> alfabit: http://www.mirror.upm.edu.my/
[01:41] <nono> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/sources.list
[01:41] <alfabit> qkit: I would start by pointing at a different mirror.
[01:41] <alfabit> qkit: also making sure you have multiverse and universe both enabled. Actually that could be your issue.
[01:41] <qkit> alfabit: ok, let me try it
[01:42] <qkit> how can i enable multiverse and universe?
[01:42] <alfabit> qkit, in a normal/unmodified sources.list they will be predefined for you, but may have been commented out (or the mirror could have dropped those collections)
[01:43] <OerHeks> Pecker, it is not in the kernel, here is a howto > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[01:44] <alfabit> qkit, it's usually something like deb http://some-ubuntu-mirror.org/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[01:44] <qkit> alfabit: wow, it works. Thanks
[01:53] <Stars> i need some help with tar a backup, how do i write excluded some folders?
[01:54] <brady2600> anyone know of a dreamweaver like application for editing webpages?
[01:54] <brady2600> i have aptana studio, but have been unable to find any interface for directly editing the page like its a document , i like that for doing quick resizing and moving of visual elements around on a page rather than coding it all by hand
[01:54] <brontosaurusrex> brady2600: there is none
[01:55] <OerHeks> Stars, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR   >>>> " tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev /   "
[01:55] <Stars> OerHeks, thanks alot
[01:55] <brady2600> it thought a while back mozilla made something like thaqt
[01:55] <alfabit> brady2600: mozilla composer iirc
[01:55] <brady2600> i find it hard to believe that there is nothing at all out there for linux for visual manipulation of pages
[01:56] <alfabit> brady2600, might still be part of seamonkey
[01:56] <alfabit> although I don't see that in the repo any longer
[01:57] <alfabit> brady2600, you could try bluefish, but it is not dreamweaver by a long shot. I haven't used it in 5+ yrs, don't know what it does now though..
[01:59] <sanna> Hello I have problem with my wireless drivers
[02:00] <sanna> Since now that i have installed them, my computer doesent regonize my wireless
[02:00] <UbuntuWarrior> what is the exact problem sanna?
[02:00] <sanna> I have HP pavilion dv9000
[02:00] <sanna> And i have look 1 post on the ubuntu forums
[02:00] <sanna> but no help
[02:01] <sanna> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1357525
[02:01] <antivapor> hi. I currently use nomodeset added in my grub when booting so that my monitor works. Any tips on a more permanent solution?
[02:01] <hangdeadman> How do I use a playstation 3 controller as a mouse in ubuntu 12.04 via usb?
[02:02] <sanna> I have also my old XP still installed and works fine in there..
[02:02] <UbuntuWarrior> wich version of ubuntu do you use sanna?
[02:02] <sanna> 12.04
[02:02] <sanna> LAN works fine
[02:02] <UbuntuWarrior> @hangdeadman there is no way you must work with bluetooth
[02:03] <hangdeadman> UbuntuWarrior: I had it working before but can't remember the name of the software I used.
[02:04] <txomon> can anyone help me building apache 2.4 from Debian's experimental
[02:04] <txomon> ?
[02:04] <UbuntuWarrior> @sanna: have you tried wict?
[02:04] <sanna> hangdeadman google ps3 controller on ubuntu and there should be few links
[02:04] <sanna> i can look you 1 after i have solved my problem
[02:05] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[02:05] <sanna> UbuntuWarrior wict?
[02:05] <UbuntuWarrior> its a other manager for the w-lan card
[02:05] <UbuntuWarrior> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[02:05] <sanna> will try
[02:07] <Crell> Hi all.  I've just upgraded a system from 12.04 to 12.10.  Overall it seems to be working but it's booting the wrong kernel.  It's still booting a 3.2 kernel, and every entry in grub's menu.list file is labeled 12.04.  What goofed, and how do I correct it?
[02:07] <jrib> Crell: are you certain the upgrade completed successfully?
[02:08] <Crell> Well it survived a reboot.  I had some packages jam during the upgrade, but an aptitude clean && aptitude upgrade fixed most of them.
[02:08] <Crell> I've had that happen a few times.  This is a server system, btw, if that makes a difference.
[02:09] <jrib> Crell: how did you upgrade?
[02:09] <Crell> do-release-upgrade from the command line.
[02:09] <nono> :-)aptitude upgrade
[02:09] <nono> :-)aptitude full-upgrade
[02:09] <nono> :-)aptitude safe-upgrade
[02:09] <jrib> Crell: what's the output of "uname -a"?
[02:09] <Crell> I'd previously upgraded to 12.04 the same way.
[02:10] <Crell> jrib: Linux 3.2.0-35.
[02:10] <jrib> Crell: that's really strange output.
[02:10] <Crell> Well that's not the complete string.  I didn't feel like copying the entire string by hand since that computer's on the other side of the room. :-)
[02:11] <alfabit> hangdeadman, you couldn't have known, but because of you I solved my problem for the day. By changing batteries. Thanks!
[02:11] <Crell> 3.2.0-35-generic, more specifically.
[02:11] <hangdeadman> alfabit: haha, that's whats up.
[02:11] <jrib> Crell: apt-cache policy linux-image-server linux-image-generic
[02:13] <Crell> jrib: It lists 3.5 as candidate for both.  It's installed for the latter, but nothing is installed for the former(?).
[02:13] <ammini1> Morning folks! How could I remove/resize the Gnome3 notification bar. I'm using fully updated 12.10 x86_64 machine. I did try gnome-tweak-tool and forums, but couldn't get any helpful info.... thanks!
[02:13] <jrib> !pastebinit | Crell
[02:13] <Crell> My guess is that when it asked about updating menu.lst to the package maintainer's version I should have said Yes, not No. :-)
[02:13] <jrib> Crell: you can use that on the server
[02:13] <alfabit> Crell, maybe you can shortcut by just running 'sudo update-grub'. It will make a new list of all currently installed kernels
[02:13] <Crell> alfabit: Tried that already.
[02:14] <Crell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481120/
[02:15] <alfabit> Crell: Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub  ?
[02:15] <jrib> Crell: pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg .  Are you getting "interesting" output from update-grub?
[02:15] <Crell> Define "interesting"?
[02:15] <sanna> UbuntuWarrior, I have it now installed and no wireless network are found still
[02:16] <jrib> Crell: you can delete "interesting" from the question if you want
[02:16] <Crell> jrib: There's no grub.cfg, but there is grub.conf.  Good enough?
[02:16] <sanna> Or maybe I just dont know how to use this program..
[02:16] <marcavis> So, I don't know whether I should mention this here, or in nautilus, or gnome... does someone know about this strangely eager autocompletion in filenames in the open files dialogs?
[02:17] <antivapor> Or maybe a better question is, nomodeset can be made permanent but how do i get the regular splash fixed?
[02:17] <sanna> But still it says in big font; no wireless networks were found
[02:17] <Crell> jrib: grub.conf appears identical to menu.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481128/
[02:17] <sanna> Should i try reboot?
[02:18] <jrib> Crell: are you still using grub 1 or something?
[02:18] <Crell> jrib: update-grub says it finds many kernels, including 3.5, 3.2, 2.6.32, 2.6.24, and 2.6.17.
[02:18] <Crell> (This system has been around a while.)
[02:18] <Crell> jrib: I have no idea.  I think about grub once every few years, and the computer itself was first installed on edgy.
[02:19] <jrib> Crell: yes, you probably are
[02:19] <Crell> Hm, grub --version reports version 0.97
[02:19] <Crell> That sounds... old.
[02:19] <marcavis> Hmm... apparently it's gtk file chooser
[02:20] <jrib> !grub
[02:20] <jrib> !grub1
[02:20] <alfabit> Crell, yes, get GRUB2 on there: sudo apt-get install grub2
[02:20] <Crell> Ahso.
[02:20] <alfabit> That will pull in grub-common and grub-pc.
[02:20]  * Crell goes to break his grub.
[02:20] <alfabit> And make a nice list of all your avail kernels.
[02:21] <Crell> I presume let it remove the grub package?
[02:21] <alfabit> Crell, yes, that's fine.
[02:21] <jrib> Crell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[02:21] <Crell> Ahso.
[02:22] <antivapor> does encrypting your home folder prevent you from making a server?
[02:22] <jrib> antivapor: no?
[02:23] <antivapor> jrib: cool
[02:23] <sanna> Any suggestions how to setup my wlan to work?
[02:24] <sanna> I have installed the lastest drivers using LAN
[02:24] <sanna> and wicd
[02:24] <sanna> but still not working for me
[02:24] <Crell> OK, going to restart the server with grub2.  Wish me luck.
[02:24] <alfabit> Crell, Good luck :)
[02:26] <Crell> Win!
[02:26] <Crell> Grub menu now shows about 5 different kernels, with 3.5 being the default.
[02:26] <alfabit> yay!
[02:26] <jrib> Crell: cool
[02:27] <Crell> I presume that means I should go ahead and do the upgrade-from-grub-legacy command to tidy things up, and then I can remove the really old kernels, da?
[02:27] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, do you has deinstalled the original drivers for w-lan?
[02:28] <sanna> No I havent :/ after i have done that should I reinstall wicd?
[02:30] <selite> How do I install KDE desktop environment in Ubuntu?
[02:30] <antivapor> any advice on getting splash screen with nomodeset?
[02:30] <jrib> !kde | selite
[02:30] <alcapraw1> anybody know  how to show linux kernal logo and system infor in terminal?
[02:30] <alcapraw1> its default on arch-linux just forgot the app  i used
[02:31] <alcapraw1> i thought it was kernel colors but clearly not :/
[02:31] <brontosaurusrex> alcapraw1: archey perhaps
[02:31] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, I think so. I find a step by stem manual for your problem in a german thread I can translate it: Step1: deinstall network manager 2: deinstall network deamon 3:reboot 4: use wicd
[02:31] <alcapraw1> yes i think thats it :D
[02:32] <sanna> Okey thanks UbuntuWarrior, I will reboot now
[02:33] <UbuntuWarrior> no problem I hope it works :D
[02:33] <selite_> !KDE
[02:34] <Isozene> what is ubnetu
[02:34] <ammini> Hi there, I'm a Fedora user and now setting up Ubuntu 12.10 in my wife's laptop. In Fedora we've delta rpms which would have only the diff from the earlier version and apply that diff on updates to the existing packages. Is there something similar in deb as well, which I can install and save some network bandwidth on updates? Thanks..
[02:34] <Isozene> ubuntu
[02:34] <hangdeadman> I get this code when trying to burn a DVD: SCSI error on write(3008,16): [3 0C 00] Write error
[02:36] <alfabit> ammini, sorry, you are in for some hefty update downloads..
[02:36] <Quest> Is there a free and good screen + audio (from mic and sound card) recorder so that I can upload that video to YouTube?
[02:36] <ammini> alfabit: Nothing I'd do to speed up the update downloads? (Other than bumping up my ISP bandwidth? ;))
[02:37] <alfabit> ammini, choosing a nearby mirror is the best option.
[02:38] <ammini> alfabit: Oh! Ok. Thanks. I'll make sure I'm using a nearby one.
[02:38] <alfabit> antivapor: not certain, but with nomodeset you should be able to add vga=791 etc. options to the kernel command line.
[02:39] <ammini> In fact yesterday while I was installing 12.10, I'd the installer connected to uplink, thinking that it'd pull down the latest packages from web.
[02:39] <alfabit> that will give you framebuffer and (hopefully) splash screen.
[02:39] <alfabit> ammini, usually it does. I hate doing updates as part of an install, I prefer to install, then pull out all of the ubuntu packages I don't need.
[02:40] <alfabit> ammini, saves me some time because I'm not updating things I don't use (empathy, gwibber, ubuntu-one stuff etc.)
[02:40] <antivapor> thanks alfa! Ill try that.
[02:40] <KxTwo> Hey guys, any thoughts on why my laptop runs hotter when I run ubuntu than when I run windows?
[02:41] <ammini> Now I'm downloading some 250M+ of updates, which I think is updates to the stock packages version from the pristine installation - or does Ubuntu push that much updates to the mirror in one go?
[02:41] <sanna> im back and still; WLAN not working :/
[02:41] <KxTwo> Kind of annoying as I was hoping it would run cooler
[02:41] <alfabit> ammini, that's about right. You are getting all of the updates since 12.10 was released, now, after a new install.
[02:42] <alfabit> ammini, in the future it will be better.
[02:42] <MoL0ToV> hi from italy! here is 3:40 and i'm unable to sleep :)
[02:42] <alfabit> KxTwo, yes, drivers aren't optimized :(
[02:42] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, can you see w-lan networks?
[02:42] <sanna> Hi from Finland! 4:42
[02:43] <sanna> No I cant :/
[02:43] <alfabit> KxTwo, Especially if you have a dual video card, where one is supposed to take over for the other to save power..can't be disabled on a linux kernel. Really sucks.
[02:43] <MoL0ToV> finland! i want to travel to finland!!
[02:43]  * ammini is in future. 08:15 here.
[02:43] <Muphrid> Hi from brazil, 00 43, but this is offtopic
[02:43] <KxTwo> Anything I can do about it, I want my lt to run as cool as possible, its hovering around 60c right now
[02:43] <KxTwo> its 10+ what I get on windows
[02:44] <alfabit> KxTwo, any idea if you have the Optimus video card solution ? (I think it's a pairing of an Intel integrated and an nvidia discrete)
[02:44] <MoL0ToV> sanna: what wifi interface you have?
[02:44] <KxTwo> my cpu is running hot not my video card
[02:45] <sanna> wicd? What do you mean? :/ Sorry for being scrub
[02:45] <ammini> Try some CPU Frequency governor tweaks.
[02:45] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, I think I can't help anymore because I'm out of ideas. I wish you a good night and good luck at your problem :D
[02:45] <selite> I use WUBI to install Kubuntu and I get an error it says that "Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO".
[02:45] <selite> How do I fix this ,plaese?
[02:45] <KxTwo> maybe I shouldnt worry as its under the jmax but I get worried about overheating
[02:46] <sanna> Aww.. Good luck to you solving future problems :)
[02:46] <mrhyde> will adobe ever make it for linux?
[02:46] <selite> I use WUBI to install Kubuntu and I get an error it says that "Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO"?
[02:47] <MoL0ToV> selite, why to use wubi? you cannot boot from cd, resize existing partitions and install ubuntu?
[02:47] <selite> MoL0ToV: No, nah the CD's don't work on my machine.
[02:47] <alfabit> KxTwo, the cpu_idle and friends driver in Linux should be just fine. The graphics stuff is the only issue I have heard of. What version of Ubuntu are you running on your laptop?
[02:48] <KxTwo> alfabit, I just installed 12.10
[02:48] <MoL0ToV> selite, so you are installing from usb? there are a lot of tools to burn correctly the iso on a usb key
[02:48] <MoL0ToV> also from windows
[02:48] <KxTwo> alfabit, i was running mint before but hadn't used it for a couple of months and decided to switch back to ubuntu
[02:48] <selite> MoL0ToV: I am installing from WUBI.
[02:48] <selite> MoL0ToV: From inside Windows 7.
[02:48] <nono> unetbootin
[02:48] <Muphrid> sanna: wicd is a different network manager
[02:48] <kelvinella> hello
[02:48] <Muphrid> sanna: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[02:49] <kelvinella> was the irc server down yesterday?
[02:49] <KxTwo> but I do know when im sitting idle on my windows machine I will drop into even the 40's but the lowest ive hit here is 57
[02:49] <alfabit> KxTwo..is it possible 12.10 is misreporting your CPU temp ?
[02:49] <KxTwo> im using psensors?
[02:50] <alfabit> KxTwo, I only mention it because mcsmash was saying something about 12.10 reporting high CPU temps. Maybe there's a bug.
[02:50] <KxTwo> hmm
[02:50] <alfabit> KxTwo, what make of laptop ?
[02:50] <KxTwo> hp dv7
[02:50] <KxTwo> hence my concern!
[02:50] <alfabit> sure.
[02:50] <MoL0ToV> selite, burn a iso ubuntu image into a usb key and boot from it, is best way in your case
[02:51] <MoL0ToV> you can also resize windows partition if needed
[02:51] <MoL0ToV> using gparted
[02:51] <KxTwo> it was overheating before and burnt out my battery, so now I monitor my temp
[02:52] <alfabit> KxTwo: If you have a BIOS interface to the temperatures as well..reboot into that and see if it's still reporting in the 60s
[02:52] <KxTwo> im actually lucky it even works it used to get so hot it would shut off
[02:52] <alfabit> KxTwo: that could give you a measure of 'is psensors accurate'
[02:52] <alfabit> KxTwo, next, I would check launchpad and see if any open issues deal with misreporting temp sensors on 12.10
[02:53] <KxTwo> launchpad?
[02:53] <alfabit> KxTwo, sorry, Ubuntu bug tracker: launchpad.net
[02:54] <KxTwo> what about DE, what if I change that?  I really dont care what DE I use
[02:54] <kelvinella> hi is there different between the ubuntu12.04.1 iso and ubuntu12.04 iso?
[02:55] <laila_> Hi. I'm new and helpless. Have a problem described at youtube: http://youtu.be/cSZ9X9y9_hc
[02:55] <jhansonxi> KxTwo:  Have you seen http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware-e-g-Windows-8/HOW-TO-FIX-DV7-FAN-OVERHEATING-PROBLEM/td-p/1360861
[02:56] <KxTwo> thats how i fixed it
[02:56] <KxTwo> I actually was a month past warranty
[02:56] <KxTwo> so i took it apart
[02:56] <KxTwo> cleaned out the fan
[02:56] <FloodBot1> KxTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <KxTwo> I have cats so you can imagine
[02:56] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: With Ubuntu running, is it possible to view the fan to see if it ever turns on?
[02:56] <KxTwo> updated the bios and turned the fan to always on
[02:57] <KxTwo> I can feel the fan, if it was not on Id shoot up into the 80s and 90's
[02:57] <KxTwo> supposedly the tmax for my cpu is 115
[02:58] <Quest> Is there a free and good screen + audio (from mic and sound card) recorder so that I can upload that video to YouTube?
[02:58] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Try using a CPU frequency control.  Most desktop environments have one as an applet.
[02:59] <alfabit> kelvinella: 12.04.1 is 12.04+updates. You don't need to re-download if you already have the 12.04 iso, the updates can just be downloaded after installation.
[02:59] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: You can at least monitor the CPU clock speed that way.
[02:59] <KxTwo> well psensor has cpu usage
[02:59] <OerHeks> !info recordmydesktop
[02:59] <KxTwo> my max has been 50 percent but hovered around 20
[02:59] <kelvinella> alfabit, but strangely when i use 12.04 iso liveCD my laptop screen is rotated upside down, in 12.04.1 liveCD it is fixed
[03:00] <nono> KxTwo lm-sensors?
[03:00] <KxTwo> psensors
[03:00] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: It maybe the GPU that's causing the excessive heat.  The CPU and GPU often share air streams in laptops.
[03:01] <laila_> I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units. Asking for help...
[03:01] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, I wondered that too but dont really know how to confirm it
[03:01] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Most sensor apps obtain their info from lm-sensors or ACPI.
[03:02] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Does psensors show the CPU running at the max speed always or does it change based on load?
[03:02] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, yah eI think psensors does as well
[03:03] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Does the CPU speed ever change?
[03:03] <KxTwo> it changes, it displays ap ercentage currently im at 9
[03:03] <KxTwo> min was 4 max was 52
[03:03] <KxTwo> it changes
[03:04]  * OerHeks allways wonders why people think windows show correct temp
[03:04] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Based on that I don't think it is the CPU or fan that is the problem.  Possibilities are GPU or faulty sensor readings (more likely GPU).
[03:04] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: What GPU and driver are you using?
[03:05] <KxTwo> hmm you might be right
[03:05] <KxTwo> I could have sworn that psensors used to display gpu temp but its not on this install which means wrong driver
[03:05] <KxTwo> im using the default driver, I literally just installed
[03:05] <KxTwo> and I have an ati mobility radeon hd 4650 (m96)
[03:05] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:06] <KxTwo> psensors does use lm-sensors btw
[03:06] <KxTwo> for somer eason I have two temp 1's im assuming thats the cores.
[03:07] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: That would use either vesa (default generic driver for anything), radeon (open-source driver with many limitations), or fglrx (AMD closed-source driver).  If you have the AMD Catalyst Control Center app then you are using fglrx.
[03:07] <KxTwo> this ubuntu has some changes from the last one.  The software updater is different and I dont see the third party driver installer.
[03:07] <KxTwo> ahh that is what that catalyst was for on my last install
[03:08] <KxTwo> I think I went through all this when I installed mint but forgot what I did
[03:08] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: I think Jockey (the "Additional Drivers" app) was removed and the Ubuntu Software Center installs the drivers now.  I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) so I still have Jockey.
[03:08] <KxTwo> I at first tried to use the third party driver installer but had problems with it, I can't even find it on this install.
[03:08] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, I think 12.04 was my last install before mint I am trying 12.10 now
[03:09] <TheBigElectron> Hi there all was wanting help install the Ralink driver for a wireless NIC with the RT3070 chip
[03:10] <TheBigElectron> I Have down loaded the source, made it and made installed it with out errors, restarted but still nothing
[03:10] <KxTwo> the only thing I can find it in the software center is ATI binary X.org driver
[03:10] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:10] <knickoo> hi
[03:10] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: I haven't used 12.10 so I'm not sure what is involved in installing fglrx (or related bugs).  Try getting that fixed first and see if it helps with the heat problem.
[03:10] <TheBigElectron> knickoo, hi
[03:11] <knickoo> hi TheBigElectron
[03:11] <KxTwo> yah I have no idea how to install this driver
[03:11] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: That might be it.
[03:11] <roasted> Is there a way to differentiate creation date vs last modified? I want to script the automatic removal of specific directories based on age of when they were created, but all I see in the parameters is last modified, which fumbles this idea badly.
[03:11] <TheBigElectron> laila_, Sounds like something wrong with the network arrangement no?
[03:11] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: This seems related: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[03:12] <KxTwo> version is fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu3
[03:12] <knickoo> does anyone knows a program that would reverse ip addresses from a list of domain names and then check ip's location?
[03:12] <nono> laila: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1625317
[03:12] <KxTwo> so maybe it is it and I should try that
[03:12] <TheBigElectron> Yar I have the same problem here KxTwo with a Ralink driver
[03:12] <laila_> TheBigElectron: The parts, connections and problem is described in detail here: http://youtu.be/cSZ9X9y9_hc
[03:13] <thufir_> I had some problems with video card drivers, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264255, but managed to start xfce.  However, while gnome-terminal is installed, it doesn't give a prompt but just a blank terminal window.  (no, it's not black on black)
[03:13] <blackbird_> hiiiiiii
[03:13] <TheBigElectron> Okay, watching now laila_
[03:13] <KxTwo> crap on that link no one has a real answer
[03:13] <KxTwo> maybe I need to go back to 12.04 damn it
[03:13] <laila_> TheBigElectron: Read the text too ... is usefull to get my question ...
[03:13] <thufir_> KxTwo: lol. 12.10 is buggy
[03:14] <blackbird_> i have problem in terminal most of time its give me error of unmet dependies
[03:14] <laila_> thufir: yes
[03:14] <OerHeks> KxTwo same answer as jhansonxi > Latest proprietary AMD Catalyst driver version 12.9 cannot be used with Ubuntu 12.10 If you have a AMD Radeon HD 2xxx-4xxx series card.Drivers for these cards are now available in a separate branch called legacy series. see >> http://askubuntu.com/a/129200
[03:14] <blackbird_> can any one have solution
[03:14] <blackbird_> ?
[03:14] <Radmintegrity> Greetings All, I need help from someone who understands what is involved in recovering data lost on a linux raw encoded partition, or at least I think Linux raw because that is how it is displayed when I use ext2 in Windows to view the drive partitions.  This drive was used in a Zmodo surveillence system DVR, which is why the data is encoded.  I need to find a way to get the lost footage...
[03:14] <Radmintegrity> ...restored, at least some of it in order to prevent an innocent man from going to prison and I only have until Jan 4 to do it.  Thank you.
[03:15] <KxTwo> Ok I think im going to reset my live usb to 12.04 and start over I havent done much so no biggy
[03:15] <OerHeks> blackbird_, what ubuntu version are you using and what are you trying to install ?
[03:15] <KxTwo> ill be back after that asking the experts
[03:15] <KxTwo> im not seeing anything great about 12.10 over 12.04 anyway
[03:15] <blackbird_> 12.10
[03:15] <blackbird_> like some gnome wallpapers
[03:15] <blackbird_> ...
[03:15] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: If it's that important then have a professional recovery firm work on it.  You could make it worse.
[03:15] <bryguy_> trying to figure out how to revert from wine 1.5.20 in 12.10 back to 1.5.19. The new wine release is completely broken. I tried dpkg -i --force-downgrade on the 1.5.19 packages in my apt cache but that seems to just break the package system until I do an apt-get -f install to fix everything.
[03:16] <KxTwo> before I do that.  Any opinions on lubuntu?  Would that maybe be better for what I want to do?
[03:16] <bryguy_> can someone help me understand how to revert back to a previous version of wine1.5?
[03:16] <KxTwo> I care more about performance but stayign cool.  I dont need amazing graphics.  I have a dv7 with 4 gigs of ram.
[03:16] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu so it will have the same driver limitations (just a different desktop).
[03:17] <OerHeks> !info wine
[03:17] <roasted> :)
[03:17] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, I just meant overall
[03:17] <Ben64> bryguy_: use synaptic and force version, what's wrong with .20?
[03:17] <Radmintegrity> Thank you Jhansonxi, but our budget does not allow for a professional service to do this for us.  We are middle class Americans, therefore we cannot afford justice...we have to fight for it.
[03:17] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, if its just a different desktkop I can change that later so its probably best to just install 12.04?
[03:17] <OerHeks> bryguy_, current version is lower, did you install any PPA ?
[03:17] <roasted> Question - can directories be identified by a creation date? Or do they only work with date modified?
[03:17] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, ubuntu 12.04*
[03:17] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Phoronix has performed benchmarks on various DEs.  Check their site.
[03:18] <Guest92581> hallo. ich hab nen kleines Problem. Ich bin absolute laie im Thema pc. Ich habe mir linux ubuntu 12.10 installiert, aber ca 6 mal jetzt drauf. wie kann ich das alles wieder löschen oder deinstallieren bzw zu einem Betriebsprogramm (oder  wie man das genau nennt) machen?? Schonmal dank im vorraus
[03:18] <roasted> o.O
[03:18] <jhansonxi> KxTwo:  More or less, yes.
[03:18] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, ok what im asking is I can change that easily though?  So I can just install ubuntu and if I want to change the DE later, if I remember correctly, that is something I can do without any loss of performance as the base OS is the same?
[03:18] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, also I have 4 gigs of ram, is there any benefits of installing 64 bit still?
[03:19] <thufir_>  I had some problems with video card drivers, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264255, but managed to start xfce.  However, while gnome-terminal is installed, it doesn't give a prompt but just a blank terminal window.  (no, it's not black on black)
[03:19] <sdfgh> anyone know how to unpack xml.bz2 ?
[03:19] <bryguy_> no ppa, I think you're wrong oerheks. Lots of people are complaining about this on the wow and eve online forums. Will try synaptic
[03:19] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: I haven't done that level of recovery but in general drive forensics starts with a complete copy of the original and never works on the original.
[03:19] <Quest> Is there a free and good screen + audio (from mic and sound card) recorder so that I can upload that video to YouTube?
[03:20] <thufir_> lol, I'm stoopid.  it was black on black.
[03:20] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, id like my next install to be one that lasts at least a little while this time lol.
[03:20] <c_smith> Guest92581, Bitte verwenden Sie in diesem Channel Deutsch, sonst wird niemand verstehen Sie
[03:20] <bitcycle> Hey all.  I've got an external USB drive plugged into my media PC (ubuntu latest), and I've got some media files on my laptop (xubuntu) that I'd like to move over to the USB drive without having to move the drive to my laptop temporarily.  What's the best way to accomplish that?  I've used sshfs, but I have not ever setup an NFS before.  :0/
[03:20] <c_smith> hoping Google Translate didn't botch that up.....
[03:20] <laila_> Quest: Try RecordMyDesktop ... is in the rep of ubuntu ...
[03:20] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: 64-bit would help a bit with 4GB access but actual performance gain depends on the application.
[03:21] <bryguy_> how do I find a previous version in synaptic?
[03:21] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, so if you had to tell me yes or no on 64 bit what woudl you say?
[03:21] <KxTwo> sounds liek you are implying 64
[03:21] <alfabit> kelvinella: I would chalk that up to an updated driver or bugfix in the 12.04.1 roll that wasn't present in the original 12.04.
 why are you using windows to view the drive partitions, try using Ubuntu instead.
[03:22] <OerHeks> roasted, no, ls -al shows a date, but that can be altered by writing a folder to that folder AFAIK
[03:22] <kelvinella> alfabit, yeah next time i would wait until .1 version is out
[03:22] <laila_> Guest92581: Problem ist lösbar ... daten auf esterne festpaltte sichern -  interne festplatte neu formatieren. Fals windows drauf, diese erst neu installeiren.
[03:22] <kelvinella> alfabit, but strangely xubuntu12.04 iso has no problem. so weird
[03:22] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: I normally use 64-bit unless the CPU doesn't support it.  Most of the past 32-bit compatibility problems have been solved with the multiarch support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec
[03:22] <OerHeks> bryguy_, i disagree, synaptic shows 1.4
[03:23] <jimmy_extreme> Hey, anyone out there available to advise on installing RHEL from Ubuntu without an optical drive?
[03:23] <Apteryx> Hello friends! I have a question regarding a LiveUSB setup... Should it be able to detect an Android based device? As of now it does not seem to, so I cannot access its internal memory as mass storage :(
[03:23] <roasted> Question - why is "test" being deleted in this command? find /home/jason/Desktop/test/ -mmin +1 -exec rm -r {} \;
[03:23] <Radmintegrity> I just installed ubuntu 20 minutes ago, new to this os:/
[03:23] <kelvinella> Radmintegrity, congraz
[03:24] <jhansonxi> jimmy_extreme: It's possible to boot an ISO image from a hard drive with Grub2 but I can't remember the details.
 You could probably view those partitions on a live cd if you had too.
[03:24] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, ok, unless you have any other expert advice to give me i am going to go download ubuntu 12.04 64 bit default and worry about DE later after checking out what you recommended.
[03:24] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Have fun :D
[03:25] <bryguy_> hm,  maybe I did install a ppa at some point, argh. I've been using rpm based distros for a long time this is frustratingly different
[03:25] <Radmintegrity> I was able to pull gigs of swf files from the partitioon using easeus linux recovery, but get an error when I open them, i think because they are encoded, does this make sense or am I clutching at straws?
[03:25] <jhansonxi> roasted: Easy test - replace rm -r with ls
[03:25] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: Are you trying to install RHEL to a separate partition on your Ubuntu machine, or installing it inside of a virtual machine, or ... ?
[03:26] <roasted> jhansonxi: not sure I understand what ls would tell me?
[03:26] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, thanks for the patience If you are still here when I come back Ill pick your brain some more
[03:26] <tekkbuzz> Radmintegrity, do you have a swf viewer of some sort installed?
[03:26] <blackbird_> exit
[03:26] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:26] <Radmintegrity> Yes I do
[03:26] <tekkbuzz> like vnc.
[03:26] <Radmintegrity> vlc?
[03:26] <kelvinella> i think you can drag swf to firefox and it will open maybe?
[03:26] <tekkbuzz> opps , yes.
[03:27] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: Identifying files with a corrupt directory is difficult since file name extensions are missing.  The recovery tool may have simply guessed wrong about the types of files it found.
[03:27] <Radmintegrity> Curses
[03:28] <alfabit> Radmintegrity, yes. It sounds surprising that a video survillance would encode to swf..
[03:28] <Ben64> jhansonxi, Radmintegrity: linux stuff usually doesn't care about file extensions, it uses magic bits
[03:28] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: You also need to be sure how the drive was originally configured, RAID/LVM/dm-crypt, in addition to what filesystem it used.
[03:28] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:28] <tekkbuzz> Radmintegrity, try using file <filename>
[03:28] <alfabit> Radmintegrity, try using the 'file' utility on one of the recovered files, see what it reports. And vlc shouldn't care - like Ben64 says.
[03:29] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:29] <jimmy_extreme> yes I am trying to install RHEL on another partition
[03:29] <jhansonxi> Ben64: No guarantee that the magic bits are intact with a corrupt filesystem.
[03:29] <Ben64> if the headers are gone, then it's pretty hard to make a file work again
[03:29] <tekkbuzz> Linux doesn't care about filename extensions, it's only for user convenience.
[03:30] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme, it is very easy to install rhel (and centos) over PXE, if you have another linux machine you can configure for that.
[03:30] <Radmintegrity> I was cautious to keep the drive in read only mode...so if I go about this from the ubuntu os I may be able to accomplish something, right?  Ok, I will be right back as I am required to restart my Windows 8 PC (I decided to chat with you good people before even  booting into Ubuntu)  Back in a few moments, and thank you for your help thus far.
[03:31] <tekkbuzz> good luck
[03:31] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:31] <Ben64> Radmintegrity: perhaps, file recovery isn't always easy or possible
[03:31] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:31] <jimmy_extreme> What is PXE? I'm kind of new to Linux. I only have one Linux box, currently only running Ubuntu desktop 12.4 LTS
[03:32] <alfabit> jhansonxi, Ben64 - did Radmitegrity say the disk was corrupted? It sounds to me like he just isn't familar with linux but trying to get files off an ext-style partition from windows.
[03:32] <Ben64> alfabit: I don't think he ever specified
[03:32] <jhansonxi> alfabit: Radmintegrity did say "lost" data
[03:32] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: don't worry about PXE then. It is a network install method but, you don't have a second machine to set up with.
[03:33] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: I've never done a USB install of CentOS but I'm sure it is possible, and that would be the next easiest way.
[03:33] <Ben64> unetbootin should work for that
[03:34] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:34] <jimmy_extreme> ah, thanks for the explanation.
[03:34] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: looks like rhel6/centos6 are now using the fedora method.
[03:34] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey
[03:34] <jhansonxi> jimmy_extreme: Ubuntu ISO boot from grub info but it required some special Grub configuration: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:35] <nono> alfabit: unetbootin...
[03:36] <jimmy_extreme> Is CentOS a different linux distro?
[03:36] <wa5qjh> yes
[03:36] <alfabit> nono, jimmy_extreme: yes, unetbootin could be used, I just have no 1st hand experience.
[03:36] <Apteryx> Anyone sees something I should install in order to gain Android device support on a LiveUSB^
[03:36] <Apteryx> ?
[03:36] <wa5qjh> supposedly very much similar to RH.
[03:36] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme, centos is rhel minus the branding.
[03:36] <Apteryx> Im just trying to access my Nexus S mass storage memory
[03:37] <Apteryx> from a Ubuntu 12.10 LiveUSB and its not seeing it when I plug the phone
[03:37] <nono> alfabit
[03:37] <nono> install
[03:37] <nono> it
[03:37] <nono> and choose your os
[03:37] <nono> (with the usb in)
[03:38] <elfer> ipv6?
[03:38] <wa5qjh> can somebody point me to where I can get the source for the network manager?
[03:38] <jimmy_extreme> nono:
[03:38] <jimmy_extreme> do you have first hand experience with unetbootin?
[03:38] <lobhater1> what runs when your computer comes out of suspend? 12.04
[03:38] <elfer> network mgr?
[03:38] <wa5qjh> manager.
[03:39] <elfer> i think you might be able to find it at projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager
[03:39] <elfer> might
[03:39] <wa5qjh> up  there in upper right5 part of the taskbar next to  the speaker icon.
[03:39] <elfer> lol
[03:40] <nono> jimmy_extreme:
[03:40] <elfer> why would you need the source/
[03:40] <elfer> ?
[03:40] <nono> it's all right
[03:40] <lobhater1> can someone please help me use the find command.  if i want to find a file name helloworld. i try  # find / helloword
[03:40] <lobhater1> but it doesnt work, what am i doing wrong>
[03:40] <wa5qjh> I need to find out what commands are sent to a USB modem,GSM,Cellular Broadband.
[03:40] <alfabit> wa5qjh: any source package can be installed with apt-src source package_name. Just make sure you have the "src" lines uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:41] <wa5qjh> find / -name helloworld
[03:41] <psusi> lobhater1, find / -name hellowword
[03:41] <elfer> o
[03:41] <elfer> i think its written in c
[03:41] <alfabit> wa5qjh: sorry, apt-get source ...
[03:41] <lobhater1> thank you, i read the man page but just had a brain block for some reason
[03:41] <wa5qjh> alfabit, thanks.
[03:43] <jimmy_extreme> question, what chat client is everyone using here? I'm on Empathy, but it seems pretty basic
[03:43] <jhansonxi> jimmy_extreme: Client systems boot over PXE to a server.  The unetbootin tool sends them an ISO image over the network for them to load into RAM and boot from.
[03:43] <skr_> whenever i open any gnome application like gedit, gcal, i get an error msg like "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications"
[03:43] <wa5qjh> would you know the exact name of the network manager.... :(
[03:43] <elfer> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/examples
[03:44] <elfer> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/
[03:44] <elfer> :0
[03:44] <jhansonxi> wa5qjh: /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
[03:44] <lobhater1> i have tried to search but with no luck.  where can i find an explanation of what the system calls when it comes out of suspend? please
[03:45] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: What are you referring to?  The login prompt?
[03:45] <hangdeadman> Can anybody help me to get a ps3 controller to function as a mouse via usb in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:45] <wa5qjh> Unable to find a source package for NetworkManager
[03:45] <jimmy_extreme> jhansonxi:
[03:45] <jimmy_extreme> thanks for the explanation of PXE and unetbootin.
[03:45] <wa5qjh> I mean the package name..
[03:46] <skr_> plz help ...
[03:48] <elfer> thanks for the ubottu
[03:48] <hangdeadman> Can anybody help me to get a ps3 controller to function as a mouse via usb in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:48] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, i gave you this url long time ago, see >>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[03:48] <bryong> Can anyone help me instsall my new WF-2117 wireless card please?
[03:48] <wa5qjh> ahh network-manager..  didnt have the hyphen  in it before :)
[03:48] <skr_> whenever i open any gnome application like gedit, gcal, i get an error msg like "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications"
[03:49] <skr_> any ideas ???
[03:49] <bryong> Linux won't recognize my wireless card.
[03:49] <jhansonxi> hangdeadman: It should do so by default (bug $41847) but you can use qjoypad to configure it manually
[03:49] <wa5qjh> also getting modemmanager .apt-get didnt like all the version info includedeither.
[03:50] <bryong> How do I find the drivers to my WF-2117 wireless card for linux?  Please help I am new to linux.
[03:50] <jhansonxi> bryong: We saw your request the first time.  Be patient.
[03:50] <bryong> Thank you.
[03:52] <skr_> what does this even mean  error msg like "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.
[03:52] <tornado> skr_: you probably ought to install the dconf-gsettings-backend (i'm on debian testing, the package may be named differently on ubuntu)
[03:52] <tornado> the dconf-gsettings-backend package, i meant
[03:54] <skr_> i had already installed dconf-gsettings-backend...
[03:54] <hangdeadman> jhansonxi: how do I configure qjoypad/
[03:54] <hangdeadman> jhansonxi: ?
[03:54] <skr_> but still this error is popping up..
[03:54] <Apteryx> This is what reads in dmesg when plugging my Nexus S phone: device not accepting address 20, error -71
[03:54] <jhansonxi> bryong: From a picture at Newegg.com it looks like it uses a Ralink RT5362 chip.  There's a howto regarding driver installation but unfortunately it's not easy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12161447
[03:55] <bryong>  jhansonxi: thanks ill look into it
[03:55] <ohshitgorillas> Okay, so I just installed Ubuntu Desktop and I have to say, it's been one of the most furiously frustrating OS experiences ever, and I've used Arch Linux before.
[03:55] <ohshitgorillas> Why on earth does Ubuntu Software Center keep refreshing every five seconds? it makes it completely unusable. how do I stop this?
[03:55] <tornado> skr_: perhaps yo need other dconf-related packages too: dconf-service libdconf0 dconf-tools
[03:55] <tornado> *you
[03:56] <lobhater1> how do you use find to search the contents of a file for a string?
[03:56] <Apteryx> /proc/interrupts
[03:56] <jhansonxi> hangdeadman: Map an axis to "mouse" and set "Gradient" then play with the settings until it works.
[03:56] <skr_> tornado: i had installed everything related to dconf and gsetting including libdconf..
[03:56] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: grep
[03:57] <skr_> but no luck...
[03:57] <tornado> :-(
[03:57] <lobhater1> grep / myString
[03:57] <lobhater1> ?
[03:57] <laila_> ALL: HAVE A NICE NEW YEAR - when you are at the time to have it!!!!
[03:57] <laila_> bye bye
[03:57] <ohshitgorillas> I need to uninstall a ton of programs for which I don't know the repo name so I can't use the command line. why does the software center keep refreshing, and why does it only uninstall every five programs I tell it to remove??!
[03:57] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: Open a terminal and type "man grep"
[03:57] <ohshitgorillas> *every fifth
[03:58] <lobhater1> i would like to search starting at root, every file for a specific string. please help more than man.  which i have done but it is hard for me to understand
[03:58] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: "grep -Rlin myString *" will search every directory below the current for myString (case-insensitive) and return file names and line numbers it occurs on.
[03:59] <nono> lobhater1 : gksu
[03:59] <skr_> when i tried strace with an application "open("/usr/share/gnome/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"
[03:59] <lobhater1> awesome thank you so much.  i am in a rush otherwise i would have read,. thabks
[03:59] <Ali3nat0r> Hi, I just installed 1210 as a dual boot on my Windoze 7 box, and I'm having issues with the graphics; YouTube in HD 720 or 1080 lags like HELL from Ubuntu however it runs fine on Win. I installed the AMD Catalyst drivers on Ubuntu hoping it would help but it didn't, any advice please? :)
[03:59] <Ali3nat0r> I also imagine it's not just YouTube but any video, however I don't have any 720 files to check it with
[03:59] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: Don't start at / if logged in as root else it will grep through /dev and every byte of every hard drive.
[04:01] <wa5qjh> one more.. how do I get mysql to start on boot-up ?
[04:01] <wa5qjh> in U11.04 ?
[04:01] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: have you tried the open source driver? I don't know what all you'll be doing with this but if you're not playing any 3d games you can try the open source ATI driver
[04:02] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: I've had nothing but frustrations and headaches dealing with catalyst
[04:02] <jhansonxi> wa5qjh: Most start-up daemons are in /etc/init or /etc/init.d depending on if they are Upstart jobs or init scripts.
[04:02] <skr_> tornado: any idea after seeing the strace...
[04:02] <Ali3nat0r> What is the one that auto installs and configures with Ubuntu? I had a 1080p resolution on Desktop right off the bat with that, and 480p YouTube worked but again 720/1080 lagged to hell
[04:03] <jhansonxi> wa5qjh: Some daemons won't start unless they are configured first, usually somewhere in /etc.  MySQL may want a password set first.
[04:03] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: you have the catalyst control center installed, too, right? have you tried adjusting some of the settings?
[04:04] <Ali3nat0r> The only reason I didn't nuke the Win7 partition is to still play games but I don't fancy switching back there just to watch videos
[04:04] <KI4RO> wa5qjh, cq cq cq
[04:04] <Ali3nat0r> Yeah, I have done and it all seems to relate to gaming more than anything
[04:05] <ohshitgorillas> Could someone explain to me why Ubuntu Software Center refreshes every five seconds and is unresponsive the other half of the time?
[04:05] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: sounds like you need someone with actual troubleshooting experience (ie not me), sorry :P
[04:06] <jhansonxi> Ali3nat0r: Search with Google for "fglrx hd flash slow" and you'll find some bug reports about the problem
[04:06] <ohshitgorillas> when I used an ATI driver I had major issues with video playback for a while and using catalyst was the only way to get HDMI audio. from my experience the driver is something like half trainwreck half abortion
[04:07] <Ali3nat0r> Hmm will do, and I had HDMI audio before installing ATI
[04:07] <ohshitgorillas> lucky you =P
[04:07] <Ali3nat0r> I'm guessing that got included in the 1210 release
[04:08] <Ali3nat0r> Ubuntu has generally worked right out of the box with most hardware I've thrown at it, but the stuff that hasn't worked has been a BITCH to sort out
[04:08] <Ali3nat0r> Unlike Windows where the opposite holds
[04:08] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, what do you mean by stuff?
[04:09] <Ali3nat0r> This graphics problem, and an old laptop's wireless card
[04:09] <jagginess> I have to admit the docs aren't well revealing for the NetworkManager "stuff" mwahah
[04:10] <jagginess> gfx and net, it's always an issue with everyone..
[04:10] <roasted> Question -I'm running find to delete empty directories by using -type d -empty. When I run it, it says no such file or directory continuously, however the command still works. I'm just curious, why is the command barking at me like that?
[04:10] <Ali3nat0r> The way I sorted that was with a Windows driver kludge I found on a forum somewhere
[04:10] <jagginess> I hope "wayland" Xserver can do better automagic
[04:12] <pythor> My Ubuntu 12.10 won't boot by itself.  Alfabit suggested SuperGrubDisk when I was here earlier.  That got me in, but I still can't boot it with out the live USB.  Any ideas?
[04:12] <jagginess> pythor, try boot-repair iso
[04:12] <acutesluttygirl> my pics http://bit.ly/rTGuRA
[04:12] <acutesluttygirl> my pics http://bit.ly/rTGuRA
[04:12] <roasted> OH BABY
[04:12] <jhansonxi> !recoveringgrub
[04:12] <jagginess> pythor, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJokVR9YaY
[04:13] <acutesluttygirl> like them?
[04:13] <roasted> not at all
[04:13] <acutesluttygirl> my pics http://bit.ly/rTGuRA
[04:13] <pythor> jagginess, I've tried boot-repair, too.  Tried it before when I was booting from a 12.04 live Cd, and again after SuperGrubDisk got me into my original install.  No joy.
[04:15] <Jordan_U> pythor: While booted into your installed system please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/".
[04:16] <skr_> when ever i open any gnome app like gedit, gcal etc .. i get an error msg "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications." due to which i am not able to save the settings for these application.PLZ HELP....
[04:18] <pythor> Jordan_U, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481286/
[04:18] <thoonai> hey, my generic mp3 player is mount read only
[04:18] <thoonai> how Do I can mount it as writable device?
[04:19] <ohshitgorillas> okay, I'm going to go ahead and say it, Ubuntu Software Center is the worst piece of linux software I've ever used. How do I get it to a) not refresh at random, b) actually remove things when I click the remove button, and c) not lag?
[04:19] <thoonai> ohshitgorillas: I use aptitude or apt-get
[04:19] <thoonai> ohshitgorillas: if you ignore the software center, youll never regret it
[04:19] <ohshitgorillas> thoonai: yeah, I'm a big fan of apt-get... but I don't know the repo name for a lot of the software that comes installed on ubuntu to begin with
[04:19] <antispin> hey, i'm trying to make a bootable ubuntu USB stick using mac osX 10.6, the sudo dd command seemed to complete successfully, but i still can't boot from the usb stick (when i restart my computer macintosh hd is the only option), does anyone have any ideas on what i can do to fix this?
[04:20] <ohshitgorillas> thoonai: I just have to de-bloat using the software center and I never have to look at it again
[04:20] <skr_> please help ...
[04:20] <thoonai> skr_: tell your problem
[04:21] <weby> he did
[04:21] <thoonai> my problem is that the automounter mount the mp3 player as riteprotected
[04:21] <thoonai> weby: I joined later so I dont know
[04:21] <weby> Oh I see now, my bad.
[04:21] <thoonai> weby: ^^ we grant you pardon ;)
[04:21] <weby> quoting: "when ever i open any gnome app like gedit, gcal etc .. i get an error msg "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications." due to which i am not able to save the settings for these application.PLZ HELP...."
[04:22] <skr_> thoonai:when ever i open any gnome app like gedit, gcal etc .. i get an error msg "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications." due to which i am not able to save the settings for these application.
[04:22] <thoonai> weby: thanks, skr_ it wont get better if I read it twice ;)
[04:22] <peter7pann>  #anonamouse.net
[04:23] <roasted> Question - I'm having trouble utilizing the find command. My goal is to delete empty directories, but only within the directory I specify. For example, I'm working with /media/storage/surveillance. There are directories a few layers deep within surveillance. I want to delete all empty directories from surveillance... but no further beyond surveillance. How can I prevent that?
[04:23] <jagginess> roasted, rmdir will only remove empty directories..
[04:24] <peter7pann> irc.p2p-network.net
[04:24] <peter7pann> how do I get to irc.p2p-network.net
[04:24] <jagginess> roasted, find -type d  |xargs rmdir      -- this will delete any subdirectry that is empty from the point you fire the find command
[04:24] <skr_> thoonai: i tried almost everything like installing dconf-tools libdconf0 libdconf-dbus-1-0 but still this error is not going ...
[04:24] <thoonai> how I fix a read-only mounted mp3 player?
[04:24] <weby> jagginess: interesting
[04:25] <roasted> jagginess: I was working with a test here, which was located /home/jason/Desktop/test. In my experiment, I used the -depth command, which starts at the deepest point then works its way up. Problem is, it deleted test in the process. Sure, test was empty at this point, but I didn't want "test" deleted too.
[04:25] <thoonai> skr_: im searching in my brain how to solve that
[04:25] <jagginess> roasted, what remove command did you use?
[04:25] <roasted> rmdir
[04:25] <roasted> with find
[04:25] <jagginess> roasted, test was empty
[04:26] <jagginess> roasted, try using -i if you want to be prompted
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: I created empty dir's within test. So of course, when the command ran it deleted the dir's within test.
[04:26] <jagginess> roasted, actually i dont think there's an -i for rmdir
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: the thing is, even though test was empty at this point, I didn't want test deleted.
[04:26] <skr_> thoonai: when i do strace gedit i get "open("/usr/share/gnome/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[04:26] <skr_> open("/usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[04:26] <skr_> write(2, "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'mem"..., 124GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications."
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: Is there a way to do this and specify to only rmdir up until a certain point?
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: aka, up until "test" and stop?
[04:27] <jagginess> roasted, ?
[04:27] <jagginess> roasted, not rmdir, but with find..
[04:27] <roasted> jagginess: okay, so... I'm working with a parent directory called "test"
[04:27] <roasted> jagginess: right, but find has to execute a command. It's running as -exec rmdir
[04:27] <alfabit> pythor: when you run "mount", what device shows as your "/" device ? (first line returned)
[04:27] <jagginess> roasted, eh
[04:28] <jagginess> roasted, --maxdepth (not --depth)
[04:28] <roasted> jagginess:  $ find /home/jason/Desktop/test/ -depth -type d -exec -maxdepth 1 rmdir {} \;
[04:28] <jagginess> ,/-maxdepth (one minus)
[04:28] <thoonai> skr_: so does glib is correctly installed?
[04:28] <pythor> alfabit, /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:28] <roasted> jagginess: -depth means it starts from the bottom and works its way up. It's cleaner if you have multiple directories within each other that is empty.
[04:28] <roasted> jagginess: I wnat it to start from the bottom and work its way up, so -depth isneeded.
[04:28] <roasted> I just don't want test to getnuked in the process.
[04:29] <thoonai> skr_: possibly you just have to remove and reinstall it
[04:29] <skr_> thoonai: i think so
[04:29] <jagginess> roasted, ?
[04:29] <alfabit> pythor: I want to make sure I understand your issue. You can't boot your install without the USB drive ?
[04:29] <thoonai> now i dont get my mp3 player writable
[04:29] <jagginess> roasted, so just run it a second time...
[04:29] <skr_> thoonai: i had tried that reinstalling glib...
[04:29] <thoonai> skr_: and? same error?
[04:30] <jagginess> roasted, if a directory has empty subdirectories, then run it a second time to delete the parent directory that is empty..
[04:30] <skr_> thoonai: yes..
[04:30] <jagginess> roasted, -maxdepth 1 << useless
[04:30] <roasted> jagginess: I suppose I could dothat.
[04:30] <thoonai> skr_: hows the content od the folder where the file should be missing? is it really missing?
[04:30] <pythor> alfabit, Yup.  If I boot without the USB in, it tries to boot an old windows partition on one of my data drives.  If I disconnect that drive too, it just says OS missing.
[04:30] <roasted> jagginess: butwould it preserve "test"...
[04:30] <jagginess> roasted, might as well do rmdir *<enter>
[04:30] <jagginess> lol
[04:30] <thoonai> help I need my mp3 player
[04:30] <roasted> jagginess: why would I do that?
[04:30] <skr_> thoonai: yes..
[04:30] <alfabit> pythor, but if you use the super grub disk then it works w/o the USB drive, is that correct?
[04:30] <JonnyRo> Using ubuntu 12.10 on mac mini.  Xorg keeps outputting EQ overflow continuing.  Graphics performance sluggish at best.
[04:31] <thoonai> I want to go home with music ^^
[04:31] <JonnyRo> Anything offhand i should try?
[04:31] <jagginess> roasted, rmdir a b c d e f g    << a b c d e f g are subfolders
[04:31] <roasted> jagginess: here's the problem. This is formy video surveillance on my property. I have a find command that nukes all files older than 3 days, but the problem is I have empty directories left over. The cameras create directories for the feeds based on date/hour/minute.
[04:31] <skr_> thoonai:i cant even find /usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0 folder..
[04:31] <jagginess> roasted, ?
[04:31] <roasted> jagginess: so when my script runs at midnight to clean up the feeds and delete files older than 3 days, it leaves the empty parent folders behind. So this little project is to automate the removal of theempty directories left behind.
[04:32] <jagginess> roasted, is it backed up?
[04:32] <roasted> jagginess: yeah
[04:32] <pythor> alfabit, No, the USB I'm talking about now is the SuperGrubDisk iso.  My actual CD drive doesn't work, so it's not an actual disk.
[04:32] <skr_> thoonai:i cant even find /usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0 folder.. this folder is in /usr/share/glib-2.0
[04:32] <jagginess> roasted, so instead of "copying" it to the system you want to delete it to, why not do copying to a mountpoint directly?
[04:32] <alfabit> pythor: Ok. That makes sense, gotcha. Here's my suggestion: once you're booted, do a sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2
[04:32] <roasted> jagginess: er, copy? what am I copying?
[04:33] <jagginess> ,/you want to delete it "from"/
[04:33] <thoonai> skr_: ... ok please try to make a ymlink to /usr/share/ubuntu ^^
[04:33] <jagginess> roasted, you "deleting" it or moving it?
[04:33] <alfabit> pythor: and: once you're booted, before you reinstall grub..take the USB drive out, to avoid problems on hard disk detection step.
[04:33] <thoonai> problem: read-only device needs music soon, how do i get it writable?
[04:33] <roasted> jagginess: I'm trying to remove the empty directories left behind from the automatic removal of files older than 3 days
[04:33] <raiborn> hello to all, i need some orientation please :(
[04:34] <thoonai> raiborn: o/
[04:34] <skr_> thoonai: i will try that let you know...
[04:35] <pythor> alfabit, I can't do that.  apt-get gives me an error about broken packages, and a dependency: "grub2 : Depends: grub-pc (= 1.99-21ubuntu3.4) "
[04:35] <jagginess> roasted, automatic removal of files?
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: nevermind
[04:35] <jagginess> roasted, sounds like an odd script to delete video files..
[04:35] <thoonai> raiborn: ask your question
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: It's a perfectly logical script.
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: how else would you remove files older than 3 days besides find?
[04:35] <raiborn> hello thoonai, im new to linux systems and im setting up a ubuntu server, i already installed all the lamp stuff, i can access locally to my sites, but when i try to access from outside the local network it wont let me :(
[04:35] <jagginess> roasted, if you explain as to why you're deleting things, and where thigns are being backed up.. it'll be easier to accomplish the same task..
[04:35] <Ali3nat0r> roasted: seeing half the conversation, but on my server I back up databases every day at 00:00, everything is in a known filename format like sql-database1-03-Jan-12 and I do automatic removal after 5 days, is this what you're on about but with video directories?
[04:35] <raiborn> sorry im a little slow, english is not my native
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: simple. disk space.
[04:36] <roasted> jagginess: my cameras take up 50GB per day,and I have 2.... so that's 100GB a day. So yes, I only want 3 days of footage.
[04:36] <alfabit> pythor: you definitely want grub-pc. If it can't be installed..we need to solve that first.
[04:36] <thoonai> raiborn: ok tell me whats your webserver
[04:36] <roasted> jagginess: so the script removes feeds older than 3 days from the surveillance directory. Problem is, then I have a folder for each of those days remaining, and a folder ofr each hour within those days remaining... however... they're empty.
[04:36] <roasted> jagginess: so I'm trying to automate the removal of the now-empty folders.
[04:37] <thoonai> raiborn: you possibly bind the webserver to localhost and not to domain or ip
[04:37] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: not entirely
[04:37] <thoonai> problem: read-only device needs music soon, how do i get it writable?
[04:37] <alfabit> pythor: You have a network connection once your system starts up, right? Does sudo apt-get update work without errors?
[04:37] <jagginess> roasted, ok.. so why not make a symlink?
[04:37] <roasted> jagginess: what on earth will a symlink do forme?
[04:37] <raiborn> so instead of localhost i must put the private ip address?
[04:37] <jagginess> roasted, your script is badly made
[04:37] <roasted> jagginess: my script is made as per what dozens of Google searches recommend.
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, just delete by date
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: and I'll ask again, how on earth would a symlink help me here?
[04:38] <thoonai> raiborn: yeah this would be the first point of failure ^^
[04:38] <sanna> Molotov?
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, nmind that.. tried to find a cheap hack for ya.. easier is to use find by date
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: No, I want to delete by folders older than 3 days. Hence -mtime +3 in find.
[04:38] <MoL0ToV> sanna
[04:38] <MoL0ToV> works?
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: I can't even have this conversation anymore. Thanks anyway.
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, sure use that..
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: IAM
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, bye..
[04:38] <sanna> Molotov :/
[04:38] <roasted> holy hell
[04:38] <raiborn> could you please point me in the right direction?, what file i must edit in apache2?
[04:38] <sanna> no :/ *
[04:39] <MoL0ToV> -> query
[04:39] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: sorry, my setup isn't really dealing with backups, but basically the automatic rotation of files I have.
[04:39] <thoonai> raiborn: i think there must be an /etc/apache2/something.conf
[04:39] <thoonai> problem: read-only device needs music soon, how do i get it writable?
[04:39] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: I found a logical and super easy way to rotate the video feeds, but as I said I'm left with empty directories those feeds once occupied, so now I'm trying to automate that portion of it.
[04:40] <raiborn> thoonai: ok brb :)
[04:40] <alfabit> raiborn, it sounds like you are being blocked by a firewall on your local network. Maybe at your router ?
[04:40] <raiborn> router doesnt have a firewall
[04:40] <raiborn> i can access all my sites locally in every machine inside my network
[04:41] <alfabit> raiborn, if you run 'netstat -ant' do you see something on port 80 and 443 (assuming yes - since it works from other machines)
[04:41] <thoonai> alfabit: or he hasnt bind the pages to his ip
[04:41] <nono> 80
[04:41] <raiborn> ill try change the localhost for the private address, brb
[04:41] <thoonai> raiborn: paste your apache conf somewhere and query it ^^
[04:41] <raiborn> ok wait please im not in the server right now
[04:42] <Ali3nat0r> roasted: Should be the same concept, a camera makes a file/directory with a name containing the date, in which case a script should search for file/directory names containing a date older than say 3 days old and rm them. An easier alternative is that directories don't take up much space at all, so you could just manually delete them when they get too much
[04:42] <pythor> alfabit, did you get my last message? (about the could not be downloaded error?)
[04:43] <thoonai> please help
[04:43] <Ali3nat0r> (What I used to do with my databases before they were as big as they are now)
[04:43] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: yeah, and that's whatI've been doing, just for organizational purposes I was hoping to automate the directories as well.
[04:43] <thoonai> want go home, have no music and my mps is wp
[04:44] <alfabit> pythor, yes, you may have lost my messages. We need to fix your apt-get before we can fix grub. You definitely need grub-pc installed.
[04:44] <alfabit> pythor: once your system boots correctly (using the USB), do you have an active network connection?
[04:45] <jagginess> alfabit, ?
[04:45] <pythor> Ok.. Apt-get upgrade works fine.  reports nothing to upgrade.  Yup, I'm on the PC we're talking about now.
[04:45] <thoonai> help, I want go home, have no music and my mp3 is writeprotected
[04:45] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: do youknow of such a way to put a quota on a directory? and perhaps anything over 300GB and it begins deleting the oldest material first?
[04:45] <alfabit> jagginess, sorry, did I miss a query from you?
[04:45] <jagginess> thoonai, sounds like you're working at a job ? lol
[04:45] <CoolChapChad> WOBBUFFET!! >_<
[04:46] <thoonai> jagginess: o.o?
[04:46] <alfabit> pythor: good. before reinstalling grub: can you do an 'update-grub' ?
[04:46] <CoolChapChad> like really, microsoft is like this masterfully crafted ball of "give me money ... keep giving me money ... and I will never give you what you really want"
[04:46] <alfabit> pythor: oh! and pull that usb drive now.
[04:46] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, m$ sux
[04:46] <pythor> alfabit, Yup, I did that...  I'll do it again with the USB stick out.
[04:46] <replica> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' can any1 help on tht one ?
[04:46] <CoolChapChad> Seb: aptitude is only for package management, yast is for system administration
[04:46] <thoonai> help, I want go home, have no music and my mp3 is writeprotected
[04:46] <replica> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing
[04:47] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, you forgot yast2
[04:47] <pythor> alfabit, update-grub found a bunch of stuff, and finished with no error.
[04:47] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, the counterpart on suse is "zypper" .
[04:47] <thoonai> why does nobody cares about my write protected device?
[04:47] <CoolChapChad> ok it sux then
[04:47] <alfabit> pythor: that's great! If you want..try rebooting now.
[04:48] <pythor> alfabit... OK.  Wish me luck!
[04:48] <jagginess> replica, yeah.. i had that problem.. simply reinstall vbox
[04:48] <alfabit> pythor: Good luck :) If it's still not working ping me again.
[04:48] <jagginess> replica, it'll re-compile the drivers for your updated kernel.. (its because you booted into a newer kernel)
[04:49] <vjacob> hiya. i'm trying to install ubuntu (12.04.1 LTS) and select encryption, as I used to, but I'm not seeing the pop-up as usual.
[04:49] <replica> wat abt dkms packages?
[04:49] <Ali3nat0r> roasted: fraid not no. Only way I can think of doing it would be to write a script. How are the filenames of each folder formatted?
[04:49] <vjacob> Any insights on how to get back to the install process that I remember?
[04:49] <replica> shd i install thm to solve th problm
[04:49] <CoolChapChad> Anybody running Intrepid yet?
[04:49] <alfabit> replica: yup, jagginess is right. that script doesn't exist, it's a bug. try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic dkms virtualbox-dkms
[04:50] <thoonai> vjacob: so can set the encryption of your homefolder after the setup if necessary
[04:50] <jagginess> (apt-get --reinstall install virtualbox)
[04:50] <vjacob> thoonai, what if I want the whole disk encryption?
[04:50] <CoolChapChad> hi is there a way to have kde for one user, gnome for another and say xfce for the 3rd on the same box?
[04:50] <thoonai> oh thats another problem?
[04:50] <thoonai> -? +.
[04:50] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, yeah.. the "gear" icon on the logn menu
[04:50] <alfabit> vjacob, I think full disk encryption is only available using the "alternate" install CD.
[04:51] <vjacob> I'm not particular to that particular install process, however it might be easier... if that approach was still possible
[04:51] <vjacob> hmm
[04:51] <flash_x_> hi
[04:51] <vjacob> thanks.
[04:51] <CoolChapChad> can you please tell what libs to install to make this command run properly cc lex.yy.c -ll
[04:51] <thoonai> vjacob: lvm or just encrypted partition with unencrypted boot?
[04:51] <vjacob> alfabit, thoonai: appreciated.
[04:51] <vjacob> thoonai, we will see what -alternate says
[04:51] <thoonai> vjacob: ok
[04:51] <vjacob> I guess I might have to do without it this time around, out of time here.
[04:51] <vjacob> cheers
[04:52] <pythor> alfabit, I'm back ;'(  Still get the Missing OS message when the USB stick isn't plugged in.
[04:52] <donnie> Ok. I have a sansa mp3 player that's supposed to be supported by any and all computers. It has a slot for a MicroSD card. However My system isn't 'reading' it... Could I be missing a package of codecs?
[04:52] <CoolChapChad> What?
[04:52] <jagginess> donnie, it's likely fat32
[04:52] <alfabit> pythor, ok. GRUB2 probably needs to be reinstalled to the Master Boot Record of your disk.
[04:53] <thebishop> hi folks
[04:53] <jagginess> donnie, dosfstools package should be installed
[04:53] <thoonai> thebishop: o/
[04:53] <donnie> jagginess Where do I find said package to install
[04:53] <alfabit> pythor: Make sure the USB drive is pulled. Then, /dev/sda should be your hard disk - do sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:54] <jagginess> donnie, with synaptic if you installed it or via apt-get
[04:54] <CoolChapChad> [man]
[04:54]  * jagginess ignores the cool bot
[04:54] <Ali3nat0r> OK I found a bit about my YouTube problem, YouTube lags but the same file downloaded in 1080 I can view perfectly in fullscreen, so it can't be the graphics. It's got to be Flash being a CPU pig, any ideas why it's using more on Ubuntu than Windows 7?
[04:54] <CoolChapChad> usb 7-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[04:55] <pythor> alfabit, I get an error with that command: "source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory"
[04:55] <raiborn> ok wait please im not in the server right now
[04:55] <replica> Any other virtual machine i can use other thn virtualbox ?
[04:55] <thebishop> i installed fglrx on my machine with intel/amd hybrid graphics  and it destroyed everything, so i'm attempting to revert back to intel/radeon drivers. Xorg crashes trying to run on the intel card, but i can get a Guest session working after switch to the radeon driver (open source). i can't get my main user's desktop up at all right now.  any clues?
[04:55] <alfabit> Ali3nat0r, is your version of flash current? (I think 11.5 is current?) Right -click on a video to see version info..or about:plugins, in Firefox..
[04:55] <KOunit> Ali3nat0r: Yes, Flash is using more CPU.. I exp'd that problem myself.
[04:55] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, yeah.. it's because you're not using chrome ;) .. I just got sick and tired of stuff like that..
[04:55] <alfabit> pythor: do sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2
[04:55] <donnie> jagginess says it's installed.. Should I mark for reinstall?
[04:56] <CoolChapChad> how do I change the audoscrolling icon in firefox 3?
[04:56] <brontos> #raspberrypi
[04:56] <KOunit> Ali3nat0r: It's damn laggy in chrome, better in chromium.. I switched to html5
[04:56] <jagginess> donnie, what does -> file -s /dev/<YOUR partition on the sdcard>    say?  does it say something like like "FAT ..." ?
[04:56] <CoolChapChad> sucker punch rain dance posion jab and brick break
[04:56] <OerHeks> Ali3nat0r, most likely if you can play it when downloaded on your machine, it is your internet speed that causes this, not flash
[04:57] <donnie> jaggines My player shows up. but the sd card doesn't. And it's in there and connected..
[04:57] <Ali3nat0r> alfabit: "Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform" and I have 11.2
[04:57] <thoonai> help, my mp3 is still write portected, may you please help me?
[04:57] <CoolChapChad> idiots
[04:57] <pythor> alfabit, still the error message from apt-get about broken packages.
[04:57] <jagginess> donnie, ohh.. that thing.. you may have to do a modprobe of something..
[04:57] <jagginess> donnie, ohh.. that thing.. you may have to do a modprobe of something..
[04:57] <jagginess> oops
[04:57] <jagginess> ,/(controller)
[04:58] <Ali3nat0r> 0erHeks: I have a 40MB+ connection ;) the sound works at full speed it's the video that lags
[04:58] <replica> guyz is der any other virtual machine software i can use in ubuntu apart from virtualbox ? i am jst a noob help me out
[04:58] <CoolChapChad> mate
[04:58] <jagginess> !ops CoolChapChad trolling.
[04:58] <alfabit> pythor: pop open your /etc/apt/sources.list and if you're pointing at a mirror.. switch to the regular ubuntu repo, then save & do sudo apt-get update
[04:58] <thoonai> replica: kvm, vmware, zen
[04:58] <CoolChapChad> i don't de-op taev either, but that's just so i don't have to listen to 45 minutes of whining
[04:58] <donnie> jagginess so how do I get it open? All I need to do is browse the card, put something on it. and it'll get removed
[04:58] <thoonai> !kvm replica
[04:58] <thoonai> why does ubottu doesnt know kvm?
[04:59] <thoonai> ubottu: kvm
[04:59] <Noskcaj> !kvm | replica
[04:59] <CoolChapChad> what what?
[04:59] <jagginess> donnie, you need to be able to see it at least with -> fdisk -l  ..
[04:59] <thoonai> Noskcaj: thanx
[04:59] <jagginess> donnie, do you see your sdcard listed?
[04:59] <replica> thnkx guyz !
[04:59] <CoolChapChad> Voltorb would blow up.
[04:59] <Noskcaj> thoonai, np
[04:59] <jagginess> donnie, use sudo fdisk -l <enter> , if you have to use sudo
[04:59] <ceed^> What's Xhost+ which is run at login?
[04:59] <Noskcaj> replica, also, opendox
[04:59] <CoolChapChad> good, I'm sick of being on people's gaydars
[04:59] <Noskcaj> *openbox
[04:59] <donnie> sudo fdisk -l
[05:00] <donnie> oops
[05:00] <flash_x_> does anybody understand regexp in qt?
[05:00] <skr_> thoonai: i tried using mkdir link to /usr/share/gnome and /usr/share/ubuntu for glib-2.0 even then the error is their...
[05:00] <matrixfox> sudo rm -rf /
[05:00] <CoolChapChad> still can't touch a Chester's or Chubby's
[05:00] <antispin> im trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick on a mac (following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick), i've done all the steps and the sudo dd command seems to complete successfully, but when i try to boot from the USB stick i doesn't even show up as an option
[05:00] <antispin> can anyone help me out?
[05:00] <jagginess> flash_x_, ahh.. just use free online regex builders..
[05:00] <luke_> hello i was wondering if anyone knows about getting java (it is already installed) to be selectable as the default program to start minecraft.jar? it is not appearing on the list
[05:00] <thoonai> skr_: "ln -l" ?
[05:00] <donnie> jagginess I see the player. but not the sdcard
[05:00] <thoonai> Noskcaj: help, my mp3 is write only
[05:00] <jagginess> donnie, can you pastebin ?
[05:00] <alfabit> Ali3nat0r: wow. I wonder what that means. Anyway, I have 11.2, so that's probably normal. You might just be running out of CPU.. I don't like the high def vids b/c yeah, it's slow.
[05:01] <pythor> alfabit, How do I tell if I'm using a mirror?  All the repositories listed look normal to me, unless you count that a few of them start with "us."
[05:01] <donnie> jagginess like paste what my terminals showing?
[05:01] <CoolChapChad> hahahahaha
[05:01] <jagginess> !paste
[05:01] <flash_x_> i need exactly qt syntax, no php and another
[05:01] <PJSingh5000> luke_, did you try $ sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[05:02] <thoonai> mp3 write only problem solve please
[05:02] <alfabit> pythor, as long as it says us.archive.ubuntu.com that's good.
[05:02] <thoonai> mp3 write only, give hint please problem solve please
[05:02] <CoolChapChad> right
[05:03] <alfabit> pythor: make sure you have a line for "main", "universe", and "multiverse", and that they are not commented out.
[05:03] <thoonai> i feel stupid when I cant solve this?
[05:03] <skr_> thoonai: i did that and both that error (of not getting the files)is solved but gsetting error is still their...
[05:03] <CoolChapChad> @find Amber Carlton Loving Two Highlanders
[05:03] <Ali3nat0r> I just tried Chromium, it's a bit better - 720 works but 1080 is still lagging, whereas on this same hardware my Wind0ze 7 install can play it no problemo
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, chrome is better maybe :)
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, (chrome comes with its pepperapi flash)
[05:04] <thoonai> skr_: would be to pleasant to solve this to easily this way
[05:04] <OerHeks> !ot | CoolChapChad
[05:04] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: I thought chromium = chrome
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, another reason it may lag, is if you have a bad video driver
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, there's distinctions actually..
[05:05] <thoonai> skr_: I dont know how much longer I can help you. Please someone other may help him/her
[05:05] <thoonai> I need some sleep urgently
[05:05] <thoonai> ~.`
[05:06] <skr_> thoonai: thanks for the time and help.
[05:07] <thoonai> skr_: skr_ no problem, I dont think, I get my solution either
[05:07] <alfabit> pythor: which ubuntu release are you on right now?
[05:07] <thoonai> ;)
[05:08] <thoonai> oh please guys, am I the only one with a broken mp3?
[05:08] <pythor> alfabit, I have those.  I pasted my sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481339/
[05:09] <thoonai> this must be a shifted reality where all mp3 players work properly
[05:09] <elfer> whats a broken mp3?
[05:09] <CoolChapChad> So there's nothing wrong with the script? Even though it's executing both lines 24 to 30, and 32?
[05:09] <thoonai> elfer: its mounted as read only whenever I plug it in
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !who
[05:10] <elfer> maybe re format it
[05:10] <alfabit> pythor, yup, that looks good. So if you do sudo apt-get update, does it complete successfully?
[05:10] <elfer> to fat
[05:10] <CoolChapChad> zeusss: both, eh? i moved my hard drive over to a new computer, and the volume on my music is too low. i need to crank my speakers up to hear it.
[05:10] <thoonai> elfer: its fat
[05:10] <Jordan_U> pythor: I haven't been able to follow anything past your first pastebin, but from that you need to run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[05:10] <elfer> ntfs maybe?
[05:11] <thoonai> elfer: o.o no. this wont work
[05:11] <elfer> o.o
[05:11] <jgcampbell300> when setting up a software raid with ubuntu 12.04 server do i partition each drive with swap ... like there 36.4G drives x 7 ... so 34G and a 2G swap ?
[05:11] <jgcampbell300> for each drive
[05:12] <pythor> alfabit, Yes, apt-get update runs fine.  Jordan_U, that command is not found.
[05:12] <thoonai> elfer: they woudnt ever build an mp3 player with an ntfs licence ...
[05:12] <Jordan_U> pythor: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[05:13] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, raid1 -- i tend to just use / and swap..     /dev/sda1 and sdb1 is for my /dev/md0  , and sda2+sdb2 is for md1, I use swap for mda1
[05:13] <alfabit> pythor: yes, try directly installing grub-pc as Jordan_U suggests
[05:13] <GinTonic> my netcard can't work in debian,it can't be light up;but i use 'pon dsl-provider' days ago,
[05:14] <pythor> Jordan_U, no luck... My apt is reporting broken packages whenever I try to install a grub package.  alfabit, Same issue, apt report dependencies on grub2-common and grub-pc-bin.
[05:14] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Nope just installed Chrome and it does worse than Chromium >.< arrrgh
[05:14] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, cool thanks ... do you think i should take a bit from each drive for swap to make it faster /
[05:14] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, you should check the X log and see if there's problems
[05:14] <thoonai> elfer: it didnt worked
[05:14] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, how many drives are there?
[05:15] <thoonai> elfer: its again mounted read only
[05:15] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, 7
[05:15] <Jordan_U> pythor: Please pastebib the complete output of the command I gave you.
[05:15] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: which file is that?
[05:16] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, i wouldn't know what's best for a "server" edition.. i just use the desktop-alternate and use RAID1 for / and swap
[05:16] <pythor> Jordan_U, somehow I expected you to say that. :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481355/
[05:16] <kfizz> Is it possible to hide buddy list avatars in empathy? I'm attempting to use it for its Ubuntu integration instead of pidgin, but the huge pictures make it difficult to scroll to contacts in my buddy list.
[05:16] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:16] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, ok thanks for your time
[05:16] <zhangyuqing> hi
[05:16] <zhangyuqing> everyone
[05:16] <cfhowlett> zhangyuqing: nihao
[05:17] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, it depends on what your "requirements" are..
[05:17] <zhangyuqing> Hello
[05:17] <GinTonic> my netcard's lamp can't light up ,help me ,i have used pon dsl-provider days ago,but it works in windowsXP
[05:17] <alfabit> pythor: "held broken packages" is the issue. We should release the holds..
[05:17] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, not sure i follow you
[05:17] <thoonai> elfer: nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show , which one I must delete?
[05:18] <thoonai> skr_: please paste your error again i can't find it anymore
[05:18] <Jordan_U> pythor: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:19] <pythor> Jordan_U, alfabit: sudo dpkg --configure -a ran with no output, no errors, or messages at all.
[05:19] <zhangyuqing> try reinstall it
[05:20] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: OK there's nothing in there that looks like a fatal error, then again I don't know what I'm looking for. There's a line "[    25.464] (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets" and then a HUGE list of supported devices, of which mine is included
[05:20] <jagginess> AlanBell, does glxgears run well?
[05:21] <CoolChapChad> heh.
[05:21] <thoonai> which mount options I must change?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> pythor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade #pastebin output
[05:21] <jagginess> AlanBell, (mesa-utils package)
[05:22] <jagginess> arg
[05:22] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, meant to say to ya
[05:22] <zhangyuqing> update it but the configureation can not changed
[05:22] <pythor> Jordan_U, done.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481364/
[05:22] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, i use that glxgears as a test for my video often
[05:23] <thoonai> my mp3 is mounted read only every time, how do I fix it?
[05:23] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, apt-cache policy grub-pc<enter>
[05:24] <jagginess> pythor, apt-cache policy grub-pc<enter>
[05:24] <thoonai> elfer: help please
[05:24]  * jagginess wonders whats wrong with his keyb today
[05:25] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Fullscreen at 1920x1080 glxgears gets around 369 fps
[05:26] <Pythor> jagginess, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481370/
[05:26] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, see chrome://plugins/
[05:26] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, the plugin i have is Adobe Flash Player (2 files) - Version: 11.5.31.5
[05:26] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, which is the pepper api i tihnk
[05:26] <Ali3nat0r> Exactly the same here
[05:26] <alfabit> pythor, everything looks ok.. try: echo "grub2 install" | dpkg --set-selections
[05:27] <alfabit> pythor: do that for grub-common and grub2-common as well.
[05:27] <CoolChapChad> windows is good
[05:27] <Ali3nat0r> As I say Chromium actually works better, as in I can view 720p YT content nicely
[05:28] <Pythor> alfabit, "dpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area"  Should I sudo that part after the pipe?
[05:28] <KxTwo> ok I'm back
[05:28] <CoolChapChad> to: Wrong chat.
[05:28] <alfabit> Pythor, yes, sudo it. Sorry.
[05:28] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, also when you do rt-click 'settings' on  flash object, check to see if 'hardware acc' is selected
[05:28] <KxTwo> took me longer than I expected and now I can't remember what I was supposed to do
[05:28] <CoolChapChad> Naht cool
[05:28] <Ali3nat0r> It is
[05:29] <alfabit> Pythor: sudo echo "grub2 install" | dpkg --set-selections
[05:29] <CoolChapChad> nub
[05:29] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, the global settings brings to around -- http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html
[05:29] <Jordan_U> alfabit: That won't help for multiple reasons.
[05:29] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, i have those two items checkmarked (its the flash default)
[05:30] <KxTwo> Should I use the additional drivers feature to install the FGLRX graphics driver?
[05:30] <Pythor> alfabit, those commands ran without any output.
[05:30] <alfabit> Jordan_U, do you have an idea what's keeping that system from reinstalling GRUB2 ?
[05:30] <CoolChapChad> happy birthday to you 7782. i wish u a darkrai tonight
[05:31] <Jordan_U> alfabit: No, but I'm suspicios of the ppas.
[05:31] <alfabit> Hm. Good observation.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> I can't download CodeFree Magazine.  I'm in China and Wordpress is blocked.  Workarounds / Alternatives suggestions welcomed ...
[05:31] <alfabit> Jordan_U, maybe Pythor should comment those out, and apt-get update ?
[05:32] <CoolChapChad> nub
[05:32] <Pythor> alfabit, Jordan_U, I'm willing to try it.
[05:32] <thoonai> ok
[05:32] <thoonai> everything worked
[05:33] <thoonai> 'have you tried it turn off and on again?'
[05:33] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: I think I'm going to cut my losses since Chromium plays 720p stuff fine, just not 1080, I am getting a new CPU in a month or so anyway so that should sort it out. Offline video works fine at 1080 so it's got to be Flash whoring the CPU, since Win7 plays it fine. Cheers anyway
[05:33] <Jordan_U> alfabit: No, conmenting out rarely helps as the packages causing the breakage are already installed. ppa-purge on all of them (which requires that they *not* be commented out) might help.
[05:33] <thoonai> so skr_ no lets help you
[05:34] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, sometimes with hold hardware, the accel options for the driver aren't ideal..
[05:34] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, if its old hardware, its aggravating -- it could be one or two X options that makes a big difference..
[05:34] <alfabit> Pythor, I'll let Jordan_U guide you from here, this is one reason why I avoid dist-upgrades on Ubuntu :-/
[05:34] <KxTwo> So my LT was running kind of hot with 12.10 so it was suggested that it was possibly by GPU which is an ati radeon. so it was recommended to go to 12.04.  Im still running a little hot, around 60c.  Have things changed with the additional drivers feature, in the past when ive used it it hasnt worked?
[05:34] <CoolChapChad> 2
[05:35] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, btw you trying the bleeding edge? (Also I'm using the latest kernel 3.5)
[05:35] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, (kernel too plays a role)
[05:35] <Pythor> alfabit, OK.  Thanks a lot, though.  I've been working on this for 24 hours now, and I really appreciate the help.
[05:36] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: what's the bleeding edge
[05:36] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, I'm using latest chrome..
[05:36] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, btw...
[05:36] <ANub> Heeeeelo
[05:36] <alfabit> Pythor, you're welcome, and good luck. I would suggest - maybe backing up your data, and reinstalling from scratch, might be easier..but the ppa purge might be worth a shot!
[05:37] <thoonai> ANub: o/
[05:37] <ANub> ive a question regarding update manager
[05:37] <BlackDalek> When I modify a linked/inserted image outside of Scribus, the "Item -> Update Image" is always grayed out, yet Scribus obviously knows the image was modified because it replaces the image in document with a red X box... What went wrong?
[05:37] <CoolChapChad> ghosTM55: ask dpkg about tzdata
[05:37] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r,  i'm using this -> "            exec -a "$0" "$HERE/chrome" " --disk-cache-dir=/dev/shm/$USER " "$@"               "   (/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome  < last line replaced) <<< should improve performance..
[05:37] <thoonai> ANub: ask
[05:37] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, ^
[05:37] <thoonai> hopefully someone knows the right answer
[05:37] <ANub> when i open it...............it says following updates are available......for this much size
[05:37] <CoolChapChad> Do you have a link before you have to go?
[05:38] <thoonai> ANub: yes?
[05:38] <Pythor> alfabit, Luckily, most of my data is on a separate drive.  Really my /home is all I have on this that I don't want to lose.
[05:38] <ANub> and all the updates are preselected
[05:38] <thoonai> ANub: please write one block, its easier to read and understand
[05:38] <Pythor> Jordan_U, how exactly do I do a ppa purge?
[05:38] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, (if you want to try that line, make sure there's a space after $USER -- it's a picky line..    first item exec, last "$@")
[05:38] <thoonai> ANub: :)
[05:39] <Jdeks> hi. I've got a problem with a LUKS encrypted drive. Anyone able to help?
[05:39] <ANub> my question is..........are these updates only for packages that are installed on my machine.........or do i need to manually select only those updates against which packages are installed..?
[05:39] <CoolChapChad> What?
[05:39] <graphmastur> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble accessing my apache server on my ubuntu server. The port is open on the local machine, and I can access it using telnet, but I can't access it outside the machine using anything, including telnet
[05:40] <CoolChapChad> =0
[05:40] <thoonai> ANub: these packages are for Software on your machine
[05:40] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Noes, still doesn't sort it. Gonna stick with Chromium and use 720 for now
[05:40] <CoolChapChad> Is there a CLI way to do the equivalent of http://www.whatismyip.com/ ?
[05:40] <thoonai> ANub: as more software you install as much more updates you get
[05:40] <CoolChapChad> !butt detroitlolcat
[05:40] <ANub> hmmmm.............i reconned that
[05:41] <CoolChapChad> replica: kvm, vmware, zen
[05:41] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, ~/.xsession-errors ?
[05:41] <ANub> but the update size is 500+ ..............so i thought it could be otherwise
[05:41] <thoonai> CoolChapChad: he asked again 0.0
[05:41] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, i hope you get your new computer before the New year :)
[05:41] <ANub> 500+ MB
[05:41] <ANub> :)
[05:41] <thoonai> ANub: which programs?
[05:41] <BlackDalek> I have a possibly insolvable question - Is there any way to get someone in #scribus channel to "awaken"? ;)
[05:42] <ANub> accumulated size of all the updates is 500+ MB
[05:42] <graphmastur> so no one can help, then?
[05:42] <Jdeks> you and me both, graphmastur!
[05:42] <thoonai> ANub: which programs are on your hdd and do apt-get uptdate and then apt-get upgrade and dont confirm and paste the list of the needed updates
[05:43] <thoonai> the somebody can tell you if this looks correct
[05:43] <ANub> paste here.......:).........?
[05:43] <thoonai> ANub:  ........ pastebin.com ^^
[05:43] <graphmastur> I'd help, Jdeks, but I don't know anything about LUKS
[05:44] <Jdeks> mate, i wont waste your time :) I've got a really curly one here
[05:44] <Tm_T> CoolChapChad: please try behave and stick strictly on support discussion
[05:45] <Jdeks> ...i thought i was
[05:45] <graphmastur> Yeah, mine is a bit strange too. I've already gone through several forums, and an irc channel looking for the solution.
[05:45] <replica> seriously this virtualbox is a real pain in th ass giving lots of problms
[05:45] <CoolChapChad> aasd
[05:46] <replica> replica@Replica:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[05:46] <replica> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[05:46] <CoolChapChad> wondering what the effects of the asics will be on that 14
[05:46] <Jdeks> well, I started using linux/ubuntu for the first time like...3 weeks ago. so sadly I  doubt I'll be able to help you with your troubles
[05:46] <graphmastur> yeah, CoolChapChad needs to be kicked @ Tim_T. He's PM'ing spam
[05:46] <jagginess> replica, the reinstall didnt work?
[05:46] <CoolChapChad> why am i not friends with evan on facebook
[05:46] <replica> nope
[05:46] <alfabit> BlackDalek: I think I've seen that before. I guess Scribus stores the file name but also a hash of the file. When you change it, the hash doesn't match..and you get the red X.
[05:47] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Nope, no errors and yeah I will do
[05:47] <alfabit> BlackDalek, I think I remember a right-click menu to "update" each red X, then it's fine again..but somewhat annoying, I'm sure..
[05:47] <jagginess> replica, packages i have with virtualbox name in them is -- virtualbox, virtualbox-dkms, virtualbox-wt, and virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[05:47] <jagginess> replica, virtualbox-qt
[05:48] <jagginess> replica, did u try to purge?
[05:48] <replica> hwo to purge ?
[05:48] <replica> help me out
[05:48] <jagginess> replica, apt-get purge virtualbox
[05:49] <Jdeks> Long story short: I have a drive with full disk encryption on it. I dd'd the whole thing as a backup, then like an idiot, I mounted it! Now it drops to an initramfs prompt whenever I try to boot
 I hope i've done.........as you said
[05:49] <CoolChapChad> tmapj: removing old bans
[05:49] <ANub> http://pastebin.com/VJJaCLLB
[05:49] <jagginess> Jdeks, that stuff is fun until it goes broked..
[05:49] <jagginess> Jdeks, that stuff is fun until it goes broked..
[05:49]  * jagginess hates his keyb
[05:49] <Jdeks> and whenever i try to mount the original drive on any other computer, it won't mount. apparently, its a logical volume with no volume group... :/
[05:50] <Jdeks> hahaha, youre telling me jagg!
[05:50] <thoonai> ANub: which version are you running
[05:50] <thoonai> ?
[05:50] <MoL0ToV> MoL0ToV too
[05:50] <ANub> 12.04
[05:50] <Jdeks> totally new to linux, so naturally, the first thing i do is encrypt the entire drive
[05:50] <replica> jaggines, i am done with purge it removed all th packages wat now ?
[05:50] <replica> shd i reinstall thm again?
[05:50] <thoonai> ANub: ok this looks very curious
[05:51] <thoonai> ANub: you had also an error there: duplicate source entry
[05:51] <jagginess> replica, yes..
[05:51] <thoonai> ANub: it seems as he would update the whole system
[05:51] <jagginess> replica, it should reinstall.. dunno/remember why it did for me
[05:51] <replica> can u help me out with th cmds
[05:51] <Pythor> Jordan_U, I got ppa-purge installed, is this the command I need? "sudo ppa-purge ppa:precise/main" ?
[05:52] <CoolChapChad> i swear to god podcasts will be the death of me
[05:52] <jagginess> replica, apt-get install virtualbox :)
[05:52] <replica> ill follow thm up jagginess
[05:52] <ANub> lol............why so..?
[05:52] <CoolChapChad> romo doing romo
[05:52] <replica> no need of sudo at th strt jagginess
[05:52] <jagginess> replica, btw the virtualbox i have is from quantal-updates
[05:52] <thoonai> ANub: ... I think you should ask me tomorrow ~.~ im awake since 6am and its 6:52am again
[05:52] <jagginess> replica, what does -> apt-cache policy virtualbox     , say ?
[05:53] <thoonai> and im still at work ^^
[05:53] <CoolChapChad> what would cause SD cards not to automatically mount in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ANub> oh......sure thoonai.............get some rest..........you look tired...;)
[05:53] <jagginess> finally :)
[05:53] <alfabit> Tm_T thank you!!
[05:53] <replica> jagginess it says
[05:53] <replica> virtualbox:
[05:53] <replica>   Installed: (none)
[05:53] <replica>   Candidate: 4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1
[05:53] <replica>   Version table:
[05:53] <replica>      4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 0
[05:53] <FloodBot1> replica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <ANub> thoonai: SAme time tomorrow....?
[05:54] <thoonai> ANub: same time tomorrow is still 6am ^^
[05:54] <jagginess> replica, i just would of like to know what repo you're using.. (the first "500" line)
[05:54] <Tm_T> !paste | replica
[05:54] <thoonai> I think you should ask me at 5-6pm cet
[05:54] <jagginess> replica, the vbox i'm using is 4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1
[05:54] <graphmastur> Okay, so currently, when trying to telnet from my computer, and it hangs when saying "Trying 192.168.1.9" that's my server ip on my local network
[05:54] <ANub> its 10:54 am here on my side
[05:55] <ANub> its 10:54 am here on my side..........and i'm in my office
[05:55] <jagginess> replica, in a short time the floodbot will re-enable your voice..
[05:55] <thoonai> ANub: its 6:55am here and im still in laboratory ^^
[05:55] <Jdeks> So I dont suppose anyone is free to help with a problem?
[05:55] <ammini> Hi there, I've gnome-shell configured in Ubuntu 12.10 and want to remove Unity. Is apt-get remove unity* the recommended method to remove unity and the associated files and stay _only_ with gnome-shell? Will that operation break the normal operation of Ubuntu with gnome-shell?
[05:56] <ANub> thoonai: seems like you are from Jap.....:)
[05:56] <thoonai> ANub: other way round, central europe
[05:56] <ANub> oh...yes.....sorry.........miscalculated
[05:56] <ANub> :(
[05:56]  * ammini finds there are lot many un-necessary packages which he doesn't use in the pristine installation of Ubuntu.
[05:57] <ANub> so can you tell me at what GMT time would it be feasible for you to come online again..?
[05:57] <thoonai> ANub: ^^ lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <ANub> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <thoonai> ammini: much people do, but this rescued me often
[05:58] <totem> ammini, try this, www.linuxmint.com
[05:58] <graphmastur> so can anyone here help me with my server woes?
[05:58] <robinp> is the ubuntu 12.10 default kernel compiled with efi stub support ?
[05:59] <Jdeks> *tumbleweed*
[05:59] <Jdeks> *crickets*
[05:59] <ammini> totem: I'm ok with gnome-shell, just wanted unwanted packages to be removed, so that un-necessary updates could be avoided.
[06:00] <Jdeks> *other phenomenon symbolic of silence*
[06:00] <totem> ammini, ubuntu software centre help you
[06:01] <HeKToN> guys is it possible to upgrade 32 bit ubuntu to 64 without erasing it first ?
[06:01] <jagginess> HeKToN, ?
[06:02] <jagginess> HeKToN, you cant upgrade different architectures OSes
[06:02] <Jdeks> I dont think it is hekton....fairly sure you have to start from scratch
[06:02] <HeKToN> very bad so I have 64 bit processor but already installed and set up kubuntu 32
[06:02] <HeKToN> ok
[06:02] <HeKToN> thanks :0
[06:02] <Jdeks> yeah, get to backuping :)
[06:03] <chrisvella94_> hey everyone
[06:03] <Jdeks> HI DR NICK!
[06:03] <Jdeks> i mean, chris
[06:03] <chrisvella94_> lol
[06:03] <chrisvella94_>  could anybody help me with a NFS issue I am having?
[06:04] <Jdeks> may as well ask, thats the only way to find out
[06:04] <Jdeks> nobody's helped me with my LUKS problem though :( :(
[06:04] <chrisvella94_> When I create a NFS shares of my external hard drive, the shares are visible over the network, but I cannot see their contents.
[06:05] <donnie> Unetbootin alternative? Anyone... I have it but when I use it. Non of the iso's actually 'boot'
[06:08] <KxTwo> So my LT was running kind of hot with 12.10 so it was suggested that it was possibly by GPU which is an ati radeon. so it was recommended to go to 12.04.  Im still running a little hot, around 60c.  Have things changed with the additional drivers feature, in the past when ive used it it hasnt worked?
[06:10] <killajay> hello
[06:10] <x_> what's a good linux channel (for a total newb)?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> x_: channel?  I'd suggest you look at the ubuntu forums/beginners section.
[06:11] <thoonai> x_: its #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:12] <thoonai> but you should also read the manuals because many questions will be answered by reading em. for the rest feel free to ask
[06:12] <KxTwo> sigh
[06:13] <mns> If I go to System Settings -> Details, it says Graphics: Unknown.   Why does it show that ?  lspci tells me that its Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller.
[06:13] <killajay> i got Crunchbang is there any sort of software store or portal for this distro
[06:15] <milamber> !crunchbang
[06:15] <HeKToN> guys as I can`t change the 32 to 64 and as I said I allready setup my ubuntu very well what is the best way to store the settings so when reinstall new copy with 64 to use these settings there and also all the programs already installed ?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> killajay: Crunchbang is not supported in #ubuntu
[06:15] <elfer> chrunchbangs kernel is outdated
[06:16] <elfer> open to vulnerabilities
[06:16] <killajay> thanks
[06:17] <KxTwo> ok so as usual
[06:17] <KxTwo> additional driver install failed
[06:18] <Snafu777> dpkg --list | awk '{print $2}' > foo && while read pop;do apt-get install $pop ;done<foo
[06:18] <Snafu777> Thats for u HeKToN
[06:18] <Snafu777> =)
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> if i install firmware modules in kernel
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> or something other
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> howto tell to linux to recompile the modules
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> and so?
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> to ubuntu
[06:19] <MoL0ToV> to update the kernel config there are a command?
[06:19] <Snafu777> HeKToN: That will install your programs for you....as far as the settings, no idea =)
[06:20] <Heart^Killer> hi i am getting this errror when starting the httpd service
[06:20] <Heart^Killer> Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 37 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/httpd/conf/extra/httpd-phpmodules.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/mod_ruid2.so into server: /usr/lib/apache/mod_ruid2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:20] <Heart^Killer> i have no clue what this is
[06:21] <graphmastur> Heart^Killer: Does the file /usr/lib/apache/mod_ruid2.so exist?
[06:22] <Heart^Killer> let me check
[06:22] <Heart^Killer> no
[06:22] <Heart^Killer> doesnt
[06:23] <milamber> Heart^Killer: is this a vanilla install? have you modified any of the files? did you install the server from the repos?
[06:24] <KxTwo> can some one help me with video card driver please?
[06:24] <milamber> !info libapache2-mod-ruid2
[06:24] <Heart^Killer> no i am using a directadmin panel and just used commands and since then i am having this trouble
[06:24] <milamber> Heart^Killer: if i had to guess, i would say that is the package you wanted
[06:25] <notNicolas> I am at the end of my rope here
[06:27] <KxTwo> notNicolas, me too but seemed to have missed the helpful group from earlier lol
[06:27] <notNicolas> I absolutely need to be using the fglrx ATI graphics drivers on my acer notebook, but if I install fglrx my computer becomes extremely buggy
[06:27] <graphmastur> I'm at the end of my rope, and I can't get anyone to seem to try and help me with this.
[06:27] <Testing> Hello, I anxiously need help with my Ubuntu computer.
[06:27] <Testing> I am trying to use the su command in terinal
[06:27] <Testing> aka super user command
[06:27] <KxTwo> notNicolas, hwo did you isntall the driver, thats what im trying to do?
[06:27] <Testing> I am positive the password is corect, but it keeps saying invalid!
[06:27] <seednode> Testing: And...?
[06:27] <seednode> Ah.
[06:28] <Testing> I tried changing my password, still no luck.
[06:28] <notNicolas> I installed it using "apt-get install fglrx" etc, but if I install it shit goes down
[06:28] <KxTwo> I cant even get ubuntu to install the 3rd party driver
[06:28] <seednode> Su needs root password, sudo uses your password
[06:28] <seednode> If that helps
[06:28] <seednode> Unless you're root
[06:28] <notNicolas> when the computer wakes up from sleep, the screen's lighting stays darker and it keeps getting worse until it's completely black
[06:28] <Testing> So, is this password different from my login password?
[06:28] <seednode> Well, assuming you're a sudoer, just use sudo [command]
[06:28] <notNicolas> and most of the time when I boot it up, it fails to start the xserver
[06:28] <notNicolas> and just stays at a black screen for hours
[06:28] <seednode> su makes you run commands as another user; in this case, root.
[06:29] <seednode> Sudo allows you to do admin-only commands
[06:29] <notNicolas> then when it does work, I'm plagued by problems like needing to restart my computer to enable multiple monitors
[06:29] <Testing> Well the main objective for me to finalize is to flood a website, yet I need to be a super user to do so, it says.
[06:29] <seednode> Um...
[06:29] <notNicolas> but I NEED fglrx otherwise I cannot use OpenGL 3.3 for my development
[06:29] <seednode> May I ask why you're flooding a website?
[06:29] <KxTwo> god damn it
[06:29] <notNicolas> I've been googling for months but there's no hope
[06:29] <Testing> I was just going to test the -f command, for a minute or so.
[06:30] <KxTwo> I keep trying to install the driver from the driver utulity but it keeps failing.  The catalyst control panel installs but that is it
[06:30] <seednode> Testing: Well, not sure what you're doing.
[06:30] <notNicolas> yeah ATI drivers are so embarassingly broken
[06:30] <seednode> But, for now, just try "sudo whatevercommand"
[06:30] <seednode> And then enter your user password
[06:30] <KxTwo> I got it to work on my old system but cant remember how
[06:30] <Testing> I'll try that..
[06:30] <KxTwo> I have a .run file that I remember using but now sure how
[06:33] <seednode> Testing, any luck?
[06:34] <Testing> Please forgive me again for interupting, I never recall rooting my Ubuntu computer. Is it automatically rooted, or is it something to do later on? I'm pretty sure it's not rooted, so I'm pretty lost with the whole typing in my password for the su command. I recall earlier today getting the su command to accomplish fine, but after a reboot it keeps saying it's incorrect. I'm 100% sure my password is valid, since I tested changing my 
[06:34] <Testing> correct.
[06:34] <Testing> I'm very lost.
[06:35] <Testing> I'm not trying to specifcally use the sudo command, even though it's categorized it, I'd prefer to use the su command itself, if possible
[06:35] <Testing> *even though it's categorized under sudo
[06:35] <milamber> !root | Testing
[06:36] <seednode> Well, you don't "root" your Ubuntu computer, Ubuntu has a root account by default
[06:36] <seednode> Last I checked.
[06:36] <OerHeks> Testing, sudo <command> is the ubuntu way, root account is disabled
[06:37] <seednode> I can't really think of a plus to using su...
[06:37] <seednode> For that usage, anyways
[06:38] <OerHeks> Testing the 1st user created during install, has root/administrator privelege
[06:38] <Testing> quote from the page I was forwarded to: it needs YOUR USER password, and not the Root account password.
[06:38] <Testing> I am typing in the user, admin's password.
[06:38] <Testing> Why am I getting the error?!
[06:39] <KxTwo> ahh I finally got it to work and my temp dropped a little bit
[06:39] <seednode> Wait, Ubuntu's root account is disabled? Dang, I wasn't actually aware of that.
[06:39] <seednode> I guess that's what I get for not actually using it :/
[06:39] <Testing> I never rooted the computer.
[06:39] <milamber> Testing: what command are you typing in and what error are you getting?
[06:39] <OerHeks> Testing, "<Testing> Well the main objective for me to finalize is to flood a website" has nothing to do with ubuntu support, sorry, won't help you
[06:39] <milamber> Testing: you are using the term "rooted" incorrectly
[06:39] <Testing> The objective is to get the su command to work.
[06:40] <seednode> OerHeks: not saying I advocate flooding websites, but technically his question is support related
[06:40] <Testing> I cannot get terminal to recognize me, the admin as a superuser.
[06:40] <KxTwo> that must have been it, now that I have the driver its running only a few degrees above what it does on windows
[06:40] <milamber> Testing: you didn't actually answer the question
[06:41] <Testing> alan@alan-VPCEE31FX:~$ su Password:  su: Authentication failure alan@alan-VPCEE31FX:~$
[06:42] <seednode> Testing, I think he means the command you want to run as su
[06:42] <KxTwo> just use sudo
[06:42] <seednode> ^
[06:42] <KxTwo> though I msised most of what you were talking about
[06:42] <milamber> Testing: su is not going to work unless you set up a root account. you have to do: sudo <command> and then type in your password
[06:42] <Testing> So for instance:
[06:43] <Testing> sudo ping (details here)?
[06:43] <milamber> Testing: (and setting up a root account is not supported here)
[06:43] <seednode> Yes, but ping shouldn't require root...
[06:43] <KxTwo> ping doesnt require sudo
[06:43] <KxTwo> what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:43] <seednode> Just out of curiosity, milamber, why isn't setting up a root account supported?
[06:43] <KxTwo> yesss my driver even matches
[06:43] <KxTwo> m96
[06:45] <milamber> !sudo > seednode
[06:45] <milamber> seednode: it boils down to "it's not the ubuntu way"
[06:45] <KxTwo> Ok is there an easy way to determine if my temperature display is accurate?
[06:46] <wiiw> when I connect my android phone, usb0 is appear in `ifconfig` , and my default route is disappear
[06:46] <seednode> milamber: Ah, so similar to #windows' "way" of kickbanning anyone who mentions non-proprietary software?
[06:46] <wiiw> how to disable usb0 delete my default route gateway
[06:47] <Jamesdwade> Hello?
[06:47] <KxTwo> having no luck here tonight
[06:47] <asilhouette> the special characters not working with compose key feature. help!!!
[06:48] <seednode> KxTwo, there's no way that I know of.
[06:48] <Jamesdwade> Can anyone see me chat? im grey on my screen
[06:48] <cfhowlett> Jamesdwade: we see you
[06:48] <Jamesdwade> k
[06:49] <Jamesdwade> In terminal how would i run a .sh?
[06:49] <milamber> seednode: not really, there are valid reasons for it. one being anyone coming to this channel for assistance probably shouldn't be changing configurations related to administrative privileges without fully understanding the repercussions. it also makes things easier when trying to troubleshoot if we know what the default configuration is supposed to be
[06:49] <wiiw> when I connect my android phone, usb0 is appear in `ifconfig` , and my default route gateway is disappear , how to stop this ?
[06:49] <seednode> bash ./whatever.sh
[06:49] <Jamesdwade> thank you
[06:49] <asilhouette> i've set right win key as compose key but, while i try to generate special characters using multiple keys, it just prints the regular characters
[06:49] <milamber> Jamesdwade: if you downloaded it, also check that it is executable
[06:49] <KxTwo> seednode, thank you.  Another question.  I could be wrong but I could have sworn that my GPU had a sensor as well, how can i check that?
[06:49] <seednode> IF it isn't, sudo chmod +x ./whatever,sh
[06:49] <seednode> I think
[06:49] <COMPUTER> i cant boot from cd , some1 help
[06:50] <Jamesdwade> it is executable
[06:50] <asilhouette> you can just use the right click-> properties to set the chmod to executables
[06:50] <seednode> COMPUTER: Are you sure the CD is bootable?
[06:50] <KxTwo> wait I think there is is a detect command
[06:50] <seednode> asilhouette: True, but he was asking about in command line
[06:50] <COMPUTER> i dont know, i cant even go on bios
[06:50] <COMPUTER> its a gateway laptop
[06:51] <milamber> COMPUTER: if the bios screen isn't showing up, it's probably a hardware problem
[06:51] <asilhouette> seednode: know anything about why my compose key not working. :)
[06:51] <seednode> COMPUTER: This isn't a solution, per se, but have you tried booting from a flash drive?
[06:51] <Linux> Could possibly be the hard drive, in my knowledge.
[06:51] <COMPUTER> it shouldnt be a problem
[06:52] <COMPUTER> yes i have tried usa boot
[06:52] <seednode> asilhouette: No, sorry; I have little to no experience with key remapping.
[06:52] <Jamesdwade> Im trying to decompile a program and im using decompile.sh and it isnt decompiling it so i was told to try the command line
[06:52] <Linux> I have no password, it says so in my settings. I'm now trying to get my admin priveleges, and it says I need to type in my password.
[06:52] <Linux> I tried everything I knew.
[06:52] <KxTwo> ok apparently psensor does not install lmsensor
[06:52] <Linux> Tried my original password, leaving it blank, nothing worked.
[06:52] <Linux> :(
[06:52] <seednode> KxTwo, it did for me...
[06:52] <seednode> It should be a dependency
[06:52] <seednode> Unless they changed it
[06:53] <milamber> !sudo > Linux
[06:53] <KxTwo> am I typing it wrong?
[06:53] <KxTwo> its not saying lmsensor exists or recommends a package?
[06:53] <milamber> Linux: there is a link in that message that will help you fix your sudo
[06:53] <seednode> KxTwo, I think it's lmsensors
[06:53] <seednode> But not sure
[06:53] <asilhouette> ubottu: any help to get compose key working for special characters
[06:53] <KxTwo> command not found
[06:54] <OerHeks> !info lmsensors
[06:54] <asilhouette> lol
[06:54] <seednode> Huh...
[06:54] <seednode> !info lmsensor
[06:54] <seednode> Welp
[06:54] <KxTwo> im using 12.04
[06:54] <Gemclip> What is the current thoughts on LPIC-2 certs? Is it worth doing?
[06:54] <seednode> Now I'm lost
[06:54] <FloodBot1> seednode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <seednode> Whoops, didn't think that'd register as flooding. My bad, I'm too used to channels where newlining is fine...
[06:54] <milamber> !info lm-sensors
[06:55] <OerHeks> ah missed the -
[06:55] <KxTwo> tried that too
[06:55] <KxTwo> not found
[06:55] <milamber> !12.04
[06:55] <KxTwo> im going to install it through software center
[06:55] <milamber> !info lm-sensors precise
[06:56] <seednode> KxTwo, Try running apt-get update again.
[06:56] <KxTwo> man im rusty, gotta stop using windows
[06:56] <KxTwo> ok I dont knwo what im doing aparently
[06:57] <milamber> KxTwo: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[06:57] <KxTwo> ive installed lm-sensors through software center and still nothing
[06:57] <seednode> KxTwo: Yeah, I try to alternate between the major OSes regularly, to keep somewhat up to date.
[06:57] <KxTwo> it says its already newest version
[06:57] <Teufelchen> anyone aware of this: http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/1893/117805
[06:57] <KxTwo> but when I go to use it it says command not found
[06:57] <Teufelchen> ??
[06:57] <seednode> KxTwo, Which command are you using to run it?
[06:57] <KxTwo> ahh
[06:57] <KxTwo> I remember
[06:57] <milamber> KxTwo: i'm pretty sure the command is sensors
[06:57] <OerHeks> KxTwo, after install: Run sudo sensors-detect and choose YES to all YES/no questions. see >. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:57] <KxTwo> drop the lm
[06:58] <KxTwo> yes sorry, stupid mistakes
[06:58] <Teufelchen> hello??
[06:58] <Teufelchen> anybody out there who saw my question?
[06:58] <KxTwo> ok now I dont remember how to read this lol
[06:59] <seednode> Teufelchen, that's not really a question...
[06:59] <Teufelchen> the question is why cant we humans ask meta questions anymore?
[06:59] <Gemclip> mine is though lol
[06:59] <OerHeks> Teufelchen, duplicate questions are answered with the first question & answers, no need to repeat and messes up askubuntu.
[06:59] <seednode> Gemclip, I missed your question
[06:59] <Gemclip> What is the current thoughts on LPIC-2 certs? Is it worth doing?
[06:59] <Teufelchen> the question is why cant we humans ask meta questions anymore?
[06:59] <seednode> Ah, no idea about those.
[07:00] <KxTwo> ok odd, I on ly have one success
[07:00] <seednode> Teufelchen, you're repeating yourself.
[07:00] <Teufelchen> yes, you too
[07:00] <KxTwo> AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           Success!
[07:00] <KxTwo>     (driver `k10temp')
[07:02] <KxTwo> unless im missing something its not even scanning the GPU
[07:02] <seednode> Well, assuming you're using an APU, the GPU probably shares sensors with the CPU
[07:02] <seednode> Since they're on the same chip
[07:02] <Teufelchen> i am sorry for repeating. the question is still: why cant we humans ask meta questions on askubuntu.com anymore?
[07:02] <seednode> Teufelchen, someone already answered you
[07:02] <Teufelchen> no
[07:02] <goddard> can I ls and show the chmod number instead of the rxd stuff?
[07:03] <Teufelchen> my question is not answered in a satisfying way, seednode
[07:03] <seednode> goddard, the rxd stuff should be enough; I don't know of another way, but there could be one
[07:03] <KxTwo> seednode, I coudl be wrong but could have sworn I had a gpu csensor but this is a laptop so im guessing thats what you were referring to.  not sure what APU stands for?
[07:03] <Teufelchen> and its rude to ignore me
[07:03] <seednode> APU is a CPU with integrated graphics
[07:03] <milamber> !ot | Teufelchen
[07:03] <KxTwo> nice, learn something new everyday
[07:03] <seednode> Teufelchen, it's rude to assume you have priority over others with more pressing questions
[07:03] <KxTwo> what does the A stand for?
[07:04] <seednode> Accelerated, I think
[07:04] <Teufelchen> okay, i sit in the corner and wait patiently then
[07:04] <KxTwo> cool cool
[07:04] <KxTwo> maybe it was another machine then
[07:04] <seednode> Teufelchen, I honestly don't know why, as I've never asked one. Perhaps there's a new section, or the admins decided that they weren't a positive contribution to the community?
[07:04] <goddard> what is the chmod number for this and how do i know? drwxrwxr-x
[07:05] <seednode> That means admins have full permissions, and... something something
[07:05] <seednode> Someone doesn't have write permissions
[07:05] <Snafu> goddard: google chmod and octal
[07:05] <milamber> !chmod
[07:05] <seednode> Users who don't own it, I thinl
[07:05] <KxTwo> all I know is my temp has dropped almost 15c just from getting the right driver so I am happy there.  One thing I dont understand is that my psensors has TWO temp 1s the first has the id of: lmsensor acpitz-virtual-0 temp 1 the second has the id of: lmsensor k10temp-pci-00c3 temp1
[07:05] <seednode> If I understand, admin can read/write/execute, owner can do the same, and everyone can else can just read and execute
[07:06] <seednode> But my octal is a bit rusty
[07:06] <Snafu> 0-7
[07:06] <Snafu> =)
[07:06] <Snafu> 7 = 111
[07:06] <Snafu> all bits on
[07:06] <seednode> Snafu, not what I meant ^^
[07:06] <raesi> my flash device cannot be format with disk utily plz help
[07:06] <Snafu> heh
[07:07] <goddard> so user all on rwx = 7
[07:07] <Snafu> rwx = 111 in binary
[07:07] <Snafu> 011 = wx
[07:07] <goddard> that makes perfect sense thanks
[07:07] <seednode> You people and your non-decimals
[07:07] <Snafu> =)
[07:07] <Gemclip> has there been a port for the ipad yet?
[07:07] <mvt007geek>  i added this to know about user  diagnosis http://pastebin.com/wQMs0Ssc         i put this in a systemfile code.but i got this errors:  http://pastebin.com/kPPT5cLg  what library i should include???
[07:07] <raesi> error the devie is busy
[07:07] <Snafu> 001 = execute
[07:08] <OerHeks> metaquestion.~ A habit of speech and conversation whereby a questioner asks a very unspecific question
[07:08] <KxTwo> seednode, you have any ideas why psensor has two cpu temps, one virtual?
[07:09] <seednode> KxTwo, nah, sorry, I've never bothered with temps much. so long as my Thinkpad hasn't ignited, I haven't messed with sensors
[07:09] <Snafu> two processors or  one processor with 2 cores KxTwo
[07:09] <KxTwo> Snafu, thats what I was thinking too but one has an id of virtual?
[07:09] <Snafu> no idea why my friend, but id bet its cuz of cores
[07:10] <KxTwo> Snafu, and both are lsited as temp1, on my windows system with core temp it breaks the cores up though.
[07:10] <b3nj> hi
[07:10] <Snafu> what chipset u got?
[07:10] <Snafu> right click, see if u can mod properties
[07:10] <Snafu> kinda like the chipset speed via cpufreq
[07:10] <Snafu> by default it shows cpu0
[07:10] <Snafu> even if u open 20 of them
[07:10] <KxTwo> I checked I didnt see anything
[07:10] <Snafu> does windows show 2 cores?
[07:10] <KxTwo> AMD Turion(tm) II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile M600 × 2
[07:10] <KxTwo> yes
[07:10] <KxTwo> I think
[07:10] <KxTwo> lol
[07:11] <FloodBot1> KxTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <Snafu> =)
[07:11] <Snafu> there ya go
[07:11]  * Teufelchen is still sitting in his corner, waiting for his turn
[07:11] <KxTwo> its whatever on that one, I just need to pay attention so I dont overheat.  I almost lost this laptop a few months ago due to fan issues and I wasnt paying attention.
[07:12] <KxTwo> now Snafu, I know my tmax is around 115 and sensors would agreed:  temp1:        +45.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
[07:12] <KxTwo>                        (crit = +115.5°C, hyst = +110.5°C)
[07:12] <KxTwo> but what is hyst?
[07:13] <Snafu> http://www.computing.net/answers/cpus/what-exactly-does-hysteresis-mean/6709.html was my first hit with google "hyst temp"
[07:13] <Snafu> Gotta google man =)
[07:13] <raesi> plz help
[07:13] <raesi> my flash cannot be format
[07:13] <seednode_> Teufelchen, if anyone knew off the top of their head, they'd probably have answered. I already mentioned that I don't know, so your best bet would be Google
[07:13] <KxTwo> damn it I did but got all hysterectomy stuff lol
[07:14] <Teufelchen> seednode, i did google and stuff, sorry to be a pain in the arse. i am just worried that the website is never re-opened
[07:14] <milamber> !details | raesi
[07:14] <KxTwo> Teufelchen, I think he is referring to me for my question on hyst
[07:14] <Teufelchen> ok
[07:15] <raesi> not problem from ubuntu
[07:15] <Teufelchen> i understand
[07:15] <Teufelchen> i think
[07:15] <raesi> problem my flash error device is busy
[07:15] <raesi> and cannot be format
[07:16] <raesi> i need command for format
[07:16] <Snafu> http://www.google.com/search?q=command+for+format+linux
[07:16] <Snafu> About 25,600,000 results (0.21 seconds)
[07:16] <raesi> not work for device busy
[07:16] <Snafu> so umount it
[07:16] <milamber> raesi: you have to unmount it
[07:16] <raesi> my flash have virus
[07:17] <raesi> not format manually
[07:17] <KxTwo> snafu that site doesnt really give a lamens term answer, at least that i saw but thanks.
[07:17] <Snafu> This channel is fun =)
[07:17] <KxTwo> Snafu, I cant believe my max is so high
[07:17] <Snafu> No worries KxTwo, i didnt have the knowledge off the top of my head =)
[07:18] <KxTwo> Snafu, do you know much about max temp and if sensors is accurate?
[07:19] <Snafu> sounds like its based on past performance, and its when if u go above, performance will drop
[07:19] <Snafu> Im not a hardware dude KxTwo, sorry =(
[07:19] <seednode> I know a bit about hardware, but I'm lost
[07:19] <KxTwo> its ok lol ive accomplished all I wanted to
[07:19] <KxTwo> seednode, what are you lost about?
[07:19] <seednode> Temperatures
[07:20] <seednode> As I said, for my purposes I just let it run and hope for the best
[07:20] <KxTwo> im not sure what you are lost on?
[07:20] <KxTwo> oh, I am just using monitors that tell me hwo hot my laptop is and will warn me if it gets too hot.
[07:20] <zivester> xubuntu 12.10 here, what's the difference between xubuntu and linux mint w/ xfce (or stock  linux mint)?
[07:20] <raesi> mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[07:20] <lijif> hi
[07:21] <KxTwo> ohh that was the other thign Iw anted to look into, which DE I want to use
[07:21] <ElectricPrism> raesi: r u root?
[07:21] <raesi> yes
[07:21] <seednode> KxTwo: Well, if you asked me, I'd say Openbox. It's not a DE, per se, but I like it.
[07:21] <raesi> working
[07:21] <seednode> Convenient and lightweight
[07:21] <raesi> done
[07:21] <ElectricPrism> raesi: and you already setup the partition size using cfdisk, gdisk, etc... ?
[07:21] <KxTwo> some one earlier mentioned there is a site that benchmarked common DE's im goin to check that out
[07:21] <raesi> but my file not remove
[07:22] <KxTwo> not familiar with OpenBox
[07:22] <seednode> Well, I don't generally use DEs; I just install the programs I'll be using/.
[07:22] <seednode> It's more lightweight, and feels more streamlined
[07:23] <KxTwo> so you dont use a GUI at all?
[07:23] <KxTwo> or am I not as educated on the subect of what a DE is as I thought i was lol
[07:24] <seednode> KxTwo, A DE is a window manager and a collection of programs/utilities
[07:24] <seednode> A window manager still has a GUI
[07:25] <Snafu> Anyone here into hacking ? =)
[07:25] <raesi> dev/sdb        8.5G  2.1G  6.4G  25% /media/2891-401E
[07:25] <Snafu> fml im bored
[07:25] <raesi> not remove
[07:25] <raesi> with commands
[07:25] <KxTwo> seednode, I think its coming to me.  what is the GUI we use?  There isnt as many choices for that as DE's if I remember correctly
[07:25] <seednode> Well, Ubuntu uses GNOME3 with compiz and the Unity plugin by default
[07:26] <seednode> You can also get Ubuntu with XFCE, LXDE, KDE, or GNOME2
[07:26] <seednode> Those are the common DEs
[07:26] <KxTwo> ahh so I did have DE and GUI mixed up
[07:26] <KxTwo> when I said DE I was referring to those
[07:26] <ElectricPrism> Desktop Environment = Full Cake, Window Manager = Piece of Cake
[07:27] <seednode> Yeah, I made that mistake quite a bit
[07:27] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism, that is a beautiful way to educate the poitn!
[07:27] <seednode> ElectricPrism: Except in this case, the full cake has toppings you don't like
[07:27] <KxTwo> seednode, I think I had even learned it before but since im bouncing around a lot and not knee deep I tend to forget.
[07:28] <KxTwo> I don't notice people talkign about changing DE's but rather the GUI.  I take it you can mix and match GUI's Nd DE's though?
[07:28] <seednode> Well, GUI is just a blanket term for a graphical interface
[07:28] <seednode> All DEs provide a GUI
[07:28] <KxTwo> you said you are using a GUi without a DE?
[07:28] <OerHeks> A program can provide a gui *
[07:29] <seednode> OerHeks: True, DEs aren't the only things that provide a GUI
[07:29] <seednode> I'm just saying that, when installing a DE, you will also be installing some sort of GUI, correct?
[07:29] <KxTwo> I would assume
[07:29] <KxTwo> I have the default for 12.04
[07:29] <KxTwo> unity?
[07:29] <seednode> Eh, not a fan of Unity, myself.
[07:30] <seednode> I've never been a Ubuntu user in general, though.
[07:30] <KxTwo> I dont like the panel
[07:30] <seednode> So maybe it's just my mindset.
[07:30] <ElectricPrism> After more than a year they still wont let me move the panel to the bottom QQ
[07:30] <OerHeks> DE - desktop, that is a gui yes, but this de/gui discussion is slightly confusing
[07:30] <ElectricPrism> not everyone has a 16:9 monitor
[07:30] <KxTwo> yah im confused by it too lol
[07:30] <seednode> ElectricPrism: I love my 4:3 panel
[07:31] <seednode> KxTwo: To paraphrase, a DE will provide you with a graphical interface, but other things can, too.
[07:31] <OerHeks> ElectricPrism, there is some PPA that lets you move the unity bar to the bottom, but it can break your system
[07:31] <ElectricPrism> seednode: They did a good job, I just wish I had minimal customizability options imo,
[07:31] <seednode> Eh, I just feel like the interface gets in my way.
[07:32] <KxTwo> seednode how about this, what is my DE for 12.04?
[07:32] <seednode> Openbox is there when I need it, gone the rest of the time.
[07:32] <seednode> KxTwo: GNOME3 with Compiz
[07:32] <ElectricPrism> OerHeks: Yeah, I googled that today again and last time I heard it was working was 11.10 I think, It'd be nice if it worked in 13.04 or 12.10
[07:32] <seednode> GNOME3 is the DE, Compiz is the desktop compositor (an optional part of a window manager)
[07:32] <KxTwo> ok so whats the GUI and what is Unity?
[07:32] <OerHeks> ElectricPrism, i understand unity is still in development, some version will let you do that as a standard option
[07:32] <seednode> Well, first, stop using GUI in that way. A GUI is a general term, like a "window"
[07:33] <seednode> Don't use it as a specific part of a system
[07:33] <seednode> Unity is a plugin for Compiz that provides the lenses and sidebar
[07:33] <KxTwo> ok well what is UNITY/
[07:33] <KxTwo> is that it
[07:33] <KxTwo> I thought it was a DE and it replaced Gnome 3
[07:33] <KxTwo> wow now im really confused lol
[07:34] <ElectricPrism> OerHeks: That's good to hear
[07:34] <Hwkiller> unity is technically nothing more than a plugin for compiz
[07:34] <seednode> No, it adds on to GNOME3
[07:34] <Hwkiller> a unity session uses GNOME3 as the session and compiz as the window manager and compositor
[07:34] <seednode> Though some would say it detracts from GNOME3 :P
[07:34] <KxTwo> well then cant I just turn it off and run gnome 3 on its own?  I kind of want the DE with the best speed.
[07:35] <seednode> KxTwo, You can, yes.
[07:35] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: well, you need a window manager
[07:35] <seednode> But GNOME3 is in no way the DE with "the best speed"
[07:35] <bazhang> !notunity | KxTwo
[07:35] <seednode> GNOME3 uses metacity, by default?
[07:35] <seednode> Not sure.
[07:35] <KxTwo> some one earlier said Phoronix benchmarked and testeda ll the comon de's but havent found where yet
[07:35] <ElectricPrism> on OpenDesktop.org Unity is classified as its own desktop, there's honestly soo much going on in the DE scene right now with the Cinamon fork of Gnome 3, MATE fork of Gnome 2, Unity using Gnome 3 shell as the base >:0 I can't wait till its over and there's a victor
[07:35] <Hwkiller> well, gnome3 as a whole would use the gnome-shell, which uses metacity with mutter as a compositor (I think)
[07:35] <seednode> KxTwo: From my personal experience, lightest to heaviest: LXDE, XFCE, GNOME2, GNOME3, KDE
[07:36] <KxTwo> I was forced to sue cinnamon at schoool and I didn't like it.
[07:36] <KOunit> how to execute a command as root when sudo isn't working.
[07:36] <seednode> However, in terms of usability vs minimalism, GNOME2 struck a very nice balance
[07:36] <Hwkiller> 'cept that it's dead... :p
[07:36] <seednode> Hwkiller, eh, it still works
[07:37] <KxTwo> gnome2 is what I used a couple of years ago, it was nice.
[07:37] <ElectricPrism> Gnome 3.4's rough edges come off once you start installing extensions from http://extensions.gnome.org with the one click slider on, I personally circumvent their stupid window app menu by installing AxeMenu to give me a launcher
[07:37] <Emanon> Hey all, is it safe to use ramdisks for directories like /tmp and whatnot? And if so does anyone know of a good how-to?
[07:37] <seednode> Emanon, it should be safe; Google for a how-to, I don't know any off the top of my head
[07:37] <seednode> I think /tmp uses a ramdisk by default, though...?
[07:37] <seednode> I thought it uses tmpfs or something
[07:37] <Hwkiller> Emanon: yes! /tmp is usually set up as a ramdisk basically
[07:37] <ElectricPrism> Emanon: when in doubt - arch wiki.
[07:37] <Hwkiller> yeah; it's tmpfs /tmp tmpfs :p
[07:38] <KxTwo> hmm now I cant decide what to do
[07:38] <ElectricPrism> I hear some people merge /tmp and /var since they do similar things
[07:38] <seednode> KxTwo, Try different ones, use what you like the most
[07:38] <Snafu> what
[07:38] <Snafu> thats horrid idea ElectricPrism
[07:38] <KxTwo> what de does lubuntu come with?
[07:38] <KxTwo> xfce?
[07:38] <Hwkiller> ElectricPrism: they are stupid; don't merge those
[07:38] <seednode> Lubuntu uses LXDE
[07:38] <Hwkiller>  /var and /tmp are in no way the same
[07:38] <ElectricPrism> XD
[07:38] <KxTwo> so maybe I should try that
[07:38] <seednode> Ehhh.
[07:39] <KxTwo> one thing I love is that I can change at login
[07:39] <Emanon> Cool, so just toss tmpfs    <path to ramdisk>    tmpfs    rw,size=<size of ramdisk>,mode=777 0    0 into fstab basically?
[07:39] <seednode> I still think you should go with a window manager and the programs you'll use
[07:39] <Hwkiller> lubuntu comes w/ lxde. xubuntu is xfce. kubuntu is kde.
[07:39] <seednode> but that's just the Arch user in me speaking ^_^
[07:39] <KxTwo> why ehh?
[07:39] <KxTwo> seednode, I dont knwo what that menas though
[07:39] <seednode> I dislike the looks of LZDE
[07:39] <seednode> LXDE*
[07:39] <seednode> KxTwo: Yeah, I suppose for the time being you should use a DE
[07:39] <KxTwo>  im not fully understanding what you mean by only using a windows manager  a
[07:40] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: try it at some point and you'll understand.
[07:40] <seednode> Once you're more familiar, try switching to something like Openbox, or even a tiling WM if you'd like
[07:40] <seednode> Whatever suits you.
[07:40] <seednode> That's the point of Linux, after all
[07:40] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, Im not sure how to try it without knowing what it means.
[07:40] <Hwkiller> a DE includes a suite of applications, a session manager, a settings manager, and usually a window manager. What he is suggesting is just using a window manager with whatever applications *you want*
[07:40] <Hwkiller> that assumes however, that you know what you want :p
[07:40] <KxTwo> I would assume there is something to lsoe by only using a windows manager or everyone would do it
[07:40] <seednode> A DE includes a multitude of programs, along with a window manager
[07:41] <seednode> A window manager is all you need for a usable GUI
[07:41] <Hwkiller> well, and a launcher would be smart
[07:41] <seednode> KxTwo: Well, you "lose" the bloat that comes with most DEs :P
[07:41] <seednode> Hwkiller: Yeah, I use tint2 with openbox
[07:41] <Hwkiller> seednode: I did for a long time. Now I just use a tiler
[07:41] <Hwkiller> (I'm an arch dude too)
[07:41] <seednode> Openbox has a built-in launcher when you right-click, and tint2 keeps track of windows
[07:41] <seednode> Hwkiller, Yeah, I'm running i3 atm
[07:42] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, i was thinking of trying arch but heard you had to do everythign from scratch
[07:42] <zivester> a DE comes with a basic taskbar, and usually something nice for configuring wireless networks and whatnot... I'm not sure if tiling windo managers come with those by default?
[07:42] <seednode> KxTwo, I wouldn't recommend Arch for you until you've used a more user-friendly distro for a bit
[07:42] <seednode> zivester, A tiling WM doesn't come with anything but a taskbar, in most cases
[07:42] <KxTwo> believe it or not ive been using linux off and on for eyars lol
[07:42] <Hwkiller> zivester: no, they don't. they're not meant to. they just tile your windows for you. You get anything else you want.
[07:42] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: it's not hard, but only try it when you have a lot of time for a lot of reading. :p
[07:42] <seednode> I personally use wicd-curses for network manager, tint2 for taskbar, and openbox for menu/window manager
[07:43] <seednode> When I want to use a floating WM
[07:43] <zivester> so do you configure networks form the command line or install the GTK/QT counterparts to administer them?
[07:43] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, I guess my motivation is lacking since I dont really see any major advantages
[07:43] <seednode> Hwkiller: Eh, it only took me like 30 mins of reading to get Arch functional
[07:43] <seednode> zivester, I configure from the command line, but you can do either.
[07:43] <Hwkiller> seednode: getting it installed is easy. learning to configure your system and understanding why takes longer.
[07:43] <seednode> curses makes CLI configuration really easy
[07:43] <seednode> Hwkiller: I suppose.
[07:44] <dan_> can someone post their lenny sources? i got, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main and deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
[07:44] <zivester> just curious.. I'm a gnome2, who escaped to xfce... wondering how far down the rabbit hole i should go
[07:44] <dan_> im getting server not found
[07:44] <Hwkiller> zivester: I use netcfg. It's commandline, but it's basically just bash scripts.
[07:44] <KxTwo> not to mention im on a laptop so imagine Ill have driver issues
[07:44] <seednode> KxTwo: I've never really encountered driver issues
[07:44] <KxTwo> when I log in I can chose between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d whats the difference?
[07:44] <seednode> netcfg is okay, but I hate how it doesn't auto-detect networks
[07:44] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: not sure why you think that. Linux's drivers aren't really different between distros
[07:44] <seednode> So I have to configure by hand
[07:44] <KxTwo> seednode, usually I have to fight with wireless adaptes and video when installing on laptops
[07:44] <Hwkiller> seednode: you can add in auto-detection
[07:44] <Hwkiller> net-auto-wireless
[07:44] <seednode> KxTwo: True, that's why I use Thinkpads :P
[07:45] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: got broadcom?
[07:45] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, I obviously do not fully understand then.  I dont fully understand the huge difference between distros to be honest.
[07:45]  * zivester loves his X1 Carbon
[07:45] <minijerk>  /j lubuntu
[07:45] <seednode> zivester: Not personally a fan of the Carbons, but I only used one for a short while. How is it?
[07:45] <minijerk> ops
[07:45] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: honestly, the differences between distros is the out-of-the-box experience, the package manager, and the repositories.
[07:45] <dan_> any help w/ the lenny sources "not found"?
[07:46] <seednode> Also, Arch comes with systemd
[07:46] <seednode> I like systemd versus vinitscripts
[07:46] <seednode> Quicker boot, easier to manage.
[07:46] <zivester> seednode: its the only non beats thinkpad in the recent 4 years with a decent resolution... what're you running?
[07:46] <KxTwo> seednode, yah I have no idea that is lol.
[07:46] <seednode> zivester: I'm on a Thinkpad T60 with a 1400x1050 IPS screen
[07:46] <euax> exit
[07:46] <euax> quit
[07:46] <zivester> I came from a T60p -> X61t -> X1 Carbon.. couldn't be happier
[07:46] <euax> clear
[07:46] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: Operating systems may share certain types of software like Firefox, iTunes, etc... and so linux distros share software. Each distro is like a type of ice-cream, some are chocolate, some vanilla, some catering towards easy of use, some offering OCD control over packages, etc...
[07:46] <COMPUTER> i cant boot from cd , some1 help
[07:46] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: systemd is the init system. It's the first process started after the kernel sets the system up, and it's responsible for loading everything you use.
[07:47] <seednode> 4GB RAM, 2.16GHz T60, 500GB drive, ATI video card
[07:47] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, that makes sense.  Most linux distros are customizable so from what I know you can make almost any linux run just like another distro.
[07:47] <Hwkiller> all the services (daemons), tty's, login, etc
[07:47] <COMPUTER> gateway ne71b
[07:47] <COMPUTER> laptop
[07:47] <seednode> KxTwo, the underlying system is different
[07:47] <zivester> they had IPS on T60's ?  that was a great machine
[07:47] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism is great at analogy lol
[07:47] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: each of the distros have commonalities at the core system and are part of the Unix* or Unics family because they share commonalities in filesystem structures in order for software to work across the different distributions
[07:47] <seednode> zivester: Yes, the 15" screens higher than 1024x768 were "Flexview" IPS panels
[07:47] <seednode> Non-glossy, too
[07:48] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: In technicality a distro is made up of the Linux Kernel and on top of that is the equivilent of command line userland, I'm not sure if GNU is still in use thus they call it GNU/Linux.
[07:48] <Hwkiller> seednode: not by much though, realistically. If you can manage an arch system, you can probably manage a debian system pretty well too. the biggest difference is init and pkg management
[07:48] <seednode> Hwkiller: Fair enough. Given that I administer debian and Arch systems, I'd say that's probably true
[07:48] <zivester> I guess I had one of those then :)  but ya, getting 1600x900 on the carbon has been great... basically I wanted an upgrade so bad for 4 years (my X61 ran HOT).. the 14" screen and res (and size) were great
[07:49] <ElectricPrism> All GUIs / Desktop Environments run on top of the X11 windowing system which is a graphical server, and there are different window systems, the most similar analogy to windows would be that Windows Explorer.exe is a window manager (although it performs other functions like file copying, file manager, etc...)
[07:49] <Hwkiller> I manage ubuntu, fedora, and arch, and there isn't much difference, other than pacman is better than the other pkg managers
[07:49] <zivester> obviously a bit expensive... although my T60p was $2800 when i got it.. so its still half that
[07:49] <seednode> ElectricPrism: Not true, you can use Wayland and several others
[07:49] <seednode> zivester: Mine was $100 slightly used
[07:49] <seednode> Totally worth it
[07:49] <ElectricPrism> seednode: In technicality you are correct, I look forward to trying wayland as soon as KDE, Gnome, etc... have done the footwork
[07:49] <seednode> Hwkiller: Pacman is even better with yaourt or the like.
[07:49] <zivester> o no doubt :) mine wasn't worth selling for me so I just donated it
[07:49] <seednode> Mmm, the AUR
[07:50] <Hwkiller> seednode: packer :)
[07:50] <Hwkiller> yaourt is an abomination
[07:50] <seednode> zivester: I would've taken that O_o
[07:50] <Hwkiller> but that's a discussion for #archlinux
[07:50] <Hwkiller> not here
[07:50] <seednode> Hwkiller: Yeah, yeah, don't start this again.
[07:50] <KxTwo> I think I delved too deep tonight.  I will have to come back another time and bug everyone to educate me
[07:50] <OerHeks> Guys, this conversations is way offtopic, lets stick to support please.
[07:50] <seednode> I don't want Indy_Falcon yelling at m
[07:50] <ElectricPrism> Pacman wasn't as good as apt-get imo, but then their community doesn't have the massive software availabe that Ubuntu / Debian flavors do
[07:50] <zivester> yah, there's no really official way to donate back to the community on here.. lol.. I just sent it to some local school
[07:51] <seednode> Time to join #ubuntu-offtopic, as well...
[07:51] <zivester> and put Windows on it :-X
[07:51] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: People in the OSS community are often eager to help, so feel free to ask away, yeah this computer stuff takes a lot of time to learn
[07:51] <nashant2> can anyone suggest any alternatives to subsonic, or is it the best?
[07:51] <Hwkiller> nashant2: I personally find subsonic to be the best :)
[07:51] <hilarious> would it make sense that some random email port would be blocked on a new installation of ubuntu ? meaning that i would be unable to send email through that port
[07:51] <nashant2> Hwkiller: how about setting it up behind a reverse proxy?
[07:51] <Hwkiller> there are probably fancier setups, but subsonic is super easy
[07:52] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism, whats sad is Im not actually a noob.  Im actually finishing up a degree in compsci and was playing with linux back in the 90s when slackware and redhat were big choices.  I just never dived really deep into it.
[07:52] <seednode> 'Night, folks
[07:52] <dan_> can someone post their lenny sources? i got, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main and deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
[07:52] <dan_> am getting server not found?
[07:52] <seednode> dan_: Sorry, booted into Win7 atm
[07:53] <dan_> k
[07:53] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: I know the feeling, I had no more room to grow in windows, and now linux is kicking my butt - Arch is a really good learning experience once you have a good understanding of how things work imo
[07:53] <OerHeks> dan_ debian/lenny is not supported here, join #debian
[07:53] <dan_> i was already there they sent me here.
[07:53] <Ben64> if you notice, this is #ubuntu
[07:54] <dan_> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian.  Only Debian is supported on #debian.  Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead.
[07:54] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism, one thing is, if I dont know how to do soemthing I usually just follow a walkthrough but not really sure if I learn from that.  Alot of time its just copy instructions.  I set up a sever using ubuntu server on an old machine.  Not sure if I could repeat it from memory though lol
[07:54] <OerHeks> dan_ this is ubuntu, not debian. debian repos do not work on ubuntu
[07:54] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: I reccomend watching install videos on youtube, they let someone else do the thinking and for you to do the learning, it helped me a lot
[07:54] <ElectricPrism> but im no pro
[07:55] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: just read man pages and documentation itself
[07:55] <Hwkiller> tutorials are nice, but I learn by reading the primary docs and trying to understand what each option does
[07:55] <KxTwo> I hate a lot of the man pages sometimes they are such greek lol
[07:55] <Hwkiller> then learn the greek :)
[07:56] <ElectricPrism> I would welcome a upgrade to the man pages systemwide
[07:56] <ElectricPrism> they're crude, but functional i suppose
[07:56] <KxTwo> I know im not alone.  I know there are people who are well versed on the subect and agree that the amn pages sometimes are just awful.
[07:56] <Hwkiller> sometimes they are
[07:56] <seednode> dan_: Read my PM, I think I found your error
[07:57] <Hwkiller> I can't really remember how I've learned so much. A lot of it is docs, a lot of it is watching talks, and a lot of it is just seeing or thinking of something cool and figuring out if there's a way to do it
[07:57] <ElectricPrism> I wish I had the equivilent man pages => ???? as apt-get => aptitude
[07:57] <Hwkiller> e.g., I learned all about PAM when I thought it'd be sweet to login and have admin privs using a usb key
[07:57] <jagginess> KxTwo, yeah.. it depends.. manpages are meant really only for the "familiar" imho.. it's not really a novice task.. but there's at least hints on where one can go (/usr/share/doc too is another place to check out)
[07:57] <ElectricPrism> It seems like they wrap @ around 80 characters too which sucks if your TTY or gnome-terminal can take doubble the space
[07:57] <Hwkiller> e.g., I learned all about X when configuring xorg.conf and using a standalone window manager
[07:58] <jagginess> Hwkiller, nice thing, is that xorg.conf isn't needed anymore heheheh
[07:58] <ElectricPrism> Learning about X was the most important part of learning about linux imo
[07:58] <KxTwo> you know what bugs me about my school(which is supposed to be a higher end school) is that they dont make comp sci majors take classes on linux and we don't really use it.
[07:58] <Hwkiller> jagginess: not usually; sometimes it's still useful (or at least xorg.conf.d/*.conf)
[07:58] <ElectricPrism> and how to install Nvidia drivers by command line using Lynx terminal web browser to query google when i was in trouble
[08:00] <KxTwo> alright im out thanks guys
[08:00] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: My brother got a comp sci degree, and yeah - linux is big in the server world, but the world is soo divided about it - a bank I interviewed with just couldn't give a budge to linux at all - they felt safe and secure in windows but there's no substitute for a capable linux programmer
[08:00] <seednode> I think I learned what I know about Linux by just jumping in, killing my system, fixing it, and repeating...
[08:00] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: goodnight
[08:00] <zozy> hmm...12.04 runs slow with unity even in 2d mode (1gb ram, 2ghz p4)
[08:00] <Hwkiller> seednode: +1 too
[08:01] <ElectricPrism> Ah, the good old days of unity 2d
[08:01] <Hwkiller> zozy: do you have a graphics chip? is it integrated, or is it nvidia or amd?
[08:01] <seednode> zozy, Those specs are a bit low for Unity
[08:01] <ElectricPrism> It too me ages to figure out how to launch a gui tool without Alt+F2 when Unity3D failed
[08:01] <zozy> integrated intel
[08:01] <zozy> seednode: i know
[08:02] <Hwkiller> eek yeah, p4 is slow; 2ghz p4 is very slow
[08:02] <zozy> but this pc is above the minimal requirements stated for default 12.04
[08:02] <zozy> :D
[08:02] <ElectricPrism> zozy: Is there some kind of repeating problem in the Ctrl + Alt + F12 log ?
[08:02] <Hwkiller> minimal requirements just means it *can* run, not that it will do so well :p
[08:02] <zozy> nope, just cpu almost on 90%
[08:02] <zozy> running constatntly
[08:03] <ElectricPrism> zozy: If speed is your goal maybe a move to MATE would be in order
[08:03] <zozy> ElectricPrism: i was just mentioniong it
[08:03] <zozy> i use icewm btw
[08:03] <ElectricPrism> cool
[08:03] <zozy> Hwkiller: it can be misleading for standard users
[08:03] <zozy> thats why i tried it out
[08:03] <zozy> to check what a normal user would experience
[08:03] <zozy> and it would be dissapointing
[08:04] <Hwkiller> I wonder how kde would be :p
[08:04] <zozy> hahaha :D
[08:04] <zozy> yeah
[08:04] <zozy> that particular computer runned well with xp
[08:04] <Hwkiller> "well"
[08:04] <ElectricPrism> I feel bad for anyone without good hardware who wants to run Ubuntu because Canonical really cut off the lower 40% of users
[08:05] <seednode> ElectricPrism: Well, I can testify that XFCE runs beautifully on a 1.6GHz Atom with 512MB RAM
[08:05] <ElectricPrism> but then again it's nice to have the software innovating, maybe they'll get it right soon
[08:05] <seednode> So they can always use Xubuntu
[08:05] <ElectricPrism> :)
[08:05] <zozy> seednode: that mentioned nowhere in the requirements afaik
[08:06] <Hwkiller> I run unity on my netbook (1.6 atom, 1gb ram, ssd)
[08:06] <ElectricPrism> seednode: Sounds like a good potential option for the NAS I need to build soonish
[08:06] <seednode> Eh, I didn't feel like it ran well on mine, though.
[08:06] <seednode> ElectricPrism, If you're building a NAS, just use debian minimal stable
[08:06] <ElectricPrism> zozy: I wonder what speed your ram is, because DDR1 to DDR2 to DDR3 really makes a huge performance difference
[08:06] <Hwkiller> if building a NAS, use a distro meant for that. there are plenty.
[08:06] <zozy> ddr2
[08:07] <zozy> ElectricPrism: my ram isnt used to 100%
[08:07] <ElectricPrism> that should be good enough imo
[08:07] <ElectricPrism> just cpu hmr
[08:07] <zozy> cpu is the performance bottleneck in this case
[08:07] <seednode> ElectricPrism, I haven't noticed many differences between DDR2 and DDR3 for my usage
[08:08] <zozy> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[08:08] <ElectricPrism> seednode: I had a Opteron 165 with DDR800 and the difference upgrading to DDR3 was noticable, but yeah I wasnt expecting a Pentium 4 to have DDR2
[08:08] <zozy> this is for 12.04 and default de
[08:08] <zozy> so reading the requirements it should run smooth
[08:09] <ElectricPrism> zozy: you can always kill processes in gnome-system-monitor and by using "$>ps -a" "$>killall -9 firefox", etc...
[08:09] <helmut_> hi
[08:09] <seednode> zozy, Those are minimal requirements. I'd double that for recommended requirements
[08:09] <kaushal> Hi
[08:09] <zozy> seednode: the minimal requirements are 44 mb ram
[08:09] <zozy> :D
[08:09] <zozy> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-requirements.html
[08:09] <kaushal> is there a way to lock screen in Ubuntu 11.10 when there is no activity for 5 mins?
[08:09] <seednode> zozy: When they say minimal, they mean the system will run. Nothing more.
[08:10] <zozy> i see
[08:10] <seednode> Hell, debian minimal has issues running sub-50MB if you add anything
[08:10] <seednode> And that's without GUI and all
[08:10] <zozy> anyway, with icewm it runs good
[08:10] <zozy> but thats not exactly thrown into the face of an average user
[08:10] <seednode> The 20MB requirement is without any programs or a DE
[08:11] <zozy> wouldnt it be helpful to avoid disapointment in ppl meeting first time with ubuntu (that have older machines)
[08:11] <zozy> that they would get a section in the wiki
[08:11] <zozy> i have an old pc, what to do
[08:11] <zozy> ?
[08:11] <seednode> Ubuntu was never intended for older machines
[08:11] <zozy> (just a suggestion)
[08:12] <seednode> But I completely agree
[08:12] <raesi696> Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error
[08:12] <raesi696> plz help
[08:12] <ElectricPrism> zozy: I gotta admit the people that make linux probably have nicer computers than they do cars, all chromed out in water cooling, etc... imo so you're really safe with high speced stuff which sucks if you're broke
[08:12] <raesi696> cannot format flash
[08:12] <zozy> ElectricPrism: i myself use a macbook pro for everyday computing
[08:12] <seednode> ElectricPrism, I wouldn't go that far.
[08:13] <zozy> i just tested 12.04 on an old hw to see what it can get put of it
[08:13] <ElectricPrism> seednode: I admit I don't have water cooling, but my point still explains itself
[08:13] <seednode> I use my six year old laptop for everything
[08:13] <seednode> And it runs any distro I've tried without an issue
[08:14] <Myrtti> we're veering off from actual support issues
[08:14] <ElectricPrism> zozy: You can always run a live ubuntu cd if you wanna mess around
[08:14] <seednode> Myrtti: That tends to happen a lot, doesn't it :/
[08:14] <seednode> Everyone, let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:14] <zozy> ;)
[08:18] <martian> I've got a series of statements in a view that set a value of an existing object only if a value on the form was specified. Given the following sequence, is there a better (dry) way of doing this? http://pastebin.com/dm25R9gH
[08:19] <raesi696> Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error
[08:19] <raesi696> plz help
[08:19] <ElectricPrism> Is the ubuntu wayland update still as far out as 14.04? And does anyone know if they're still planning on using it in place of X11 be default?
[08:19] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: give us more information, what were you doing when the error was caused
[08:19] <martian> oh, wrong channel :o
[08:20] <raesi696> ElectricPrism: after format with disk utilly
[08:20] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: during install?
[08:20] <raesi696> no
[08:21] <raesi696> during format my flash
[08:21] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: You can always format it in gnome-terminal if it contains no valuable data on it
[08:22] <raesi696> no not valuable data
[08:22] <raesi696> i just need format
[08:23] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: $>cfdisk /dev/sdb  , create a vanilla partition, and then write and exit,    and then   $>mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1     assuming you want ext4, i imagine $> mkfs.exfat is an option as well
[08:24] <raesi696>                            FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[08:24] <ElectricPrism> raesi696 is it mounted? umount /dev/sdb ?
[08:25] <raesi696> w8
[08:25] <ElectricPrism> windows8?
[08:25] <raesi696>  no wait
[08:25] <ElectricPrism> k
[08:25] <raesi696> Unmount failed: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken
[08:26] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: You could just unplug it and plug the usb flash drive into another usb port
[08:26] <weby> Did you wait 3 days to call?
[08:26] <raesi696> ok
[08:28] <gnomefreak> how did they deduce all those options
[08:29] <ElectricPrism> ?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> easier to say "it could be anything"
[08:30] <ElectricPrism> gnomefreak: Ah, I read deduce as reduce since it looks so similar
[08:32] <TheBigElectron> Hi there all. I have gotten RT3070 working on ubntu 12.10 using this http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 driver and this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html guide but now it completely hangs Ubuntu 12.10 after about 30sec. Any ideas anyone?
[08:35] <ElectricPrism> TheBigElectron: I have an idea, but it's not cake. Boot the live cd, mount the linux filesystem to /tmp/ubuntu    chroot /tmp/ubuntu and disable it using modprobe -r, or blacklist it idk
[08:38] <TheBigElectron> Cool ideas ElectricPrism, I neglected to mention that the system won't hang if I leave the NIC out (it's USB)
[08:38] <ElectricPrism> TheBigElectron, cool, so then all you need to do is disable it i suppose, or reinstall i suppose
[08:39] <ElectricPrism> I assume you can blacklist stuff under /etc/modprobe.d/  by creating .conf files similar to arch
[08:39] <TheBigElectron> I just released that I should be looking at system logs and going through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash to see what is going on.
[08:58] <Jacinto> can someone tell me if driver for prism2 comes with ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10 I heard there are 2 orinoco and hostap but ubuntu tries to load both I modprobe -r both but when I enable hostap_cs it still doesn't work, I want to run live
[08:59] <binbinsh> hi all, sorry for multiple post: I created an Gentoo ebuild for libreoffice 3.6.4 with Ubuntu's unitymenu patch, I emerge this package with USE "cups dbus gstreamer gtk opengl vba", but I only got libreoffice without menubar, and no global menu bar show in my KDE desktop's menubar widget. The unitymenu.diff is got from the ubuntu package patch. Is there any missing steps for me to get the appmenu support? Is there any design doc for the unity menu
[08:59] <binbinsh> [16:52] <binbinsh> support, or do I have to read the code?
[09:08] <Jacinto> can someone tell me if driver for prism2 comes with ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10 I heard there are 2 orinoco and hostap but ubuntu tries to load both I modprobe -r both but when I enable hostap_cs it still doesn't work, I want to run live
[09:10] <OerHeks> !info prism2-usb-firmware-installer
[09:10] <Jacinto> is not usb is pccard
[09:13] <OerHeks> Jacinto, i have no experience with the pci version
[09:14] <nashant2> anyone here set up subsonic behind a reverse proxy?
[09:18] <calavera> Hey can anybody help me here?
[09:19] <Ben64> calavera: Last I checked, there are no psychics in this channel
[09:19] <elfer> ugh
[09:20] <Abhijit> !ask | calavera
[09:20] <calavera> Ben64: I was merely seeing if anybody was here.
[09:20] <calavera> Apparently there is.
[09:20] <calavera> In any case...
[09:21] <Abhijit> !ask | calavera
[09:21] <calavera> I've been wrestling with the MBR and grub2 for a good while now. I restored the MBR, and put my Windows drive into the sdb position. Now, when I try and get into Windows from Grub, it tells me that it cannot find a root device.
[09:21] <elfer> i need a copper wire cage
[09:22] <Jacinto> calavera? eres tu
[09:23] <calavera> Jacinto: Yo no puedo hablar ni una palabra de espanol, senor.
[09:24] <elfer> gracis
[09:24] <elfer> gracias
[09:24] <Jacinto> I can't help you
[09:24] <Jacinto> I know ubuntu comes with a rebuilder for grub
[09:24] <elfer> i know.....
[09:24] <calavera> Should I run the boot restore (or whatever program that they call it)
[09:24] <Jacinto> but I also like the manual wey
[09:25] <Ben64> calavera: can you get into ubuntu
[09:25] <calavera> I'm in Ubuntu
[09:25] <calavera> Well... Kubuntu
[09:26] <Ben64> calavera: so what pops up the "cannot find root" problem? windows or grub?
[09:27] <calavera> GRUB prompts me what I want to boot. I can get into GNU/Linux just fine. It can't get into Windows.
[09:29] <Ben64> calavera: I know, but I'm asking if its a windows error or a grub one
[09:29] <calavera> I'm pretty sure that it's a GRUB2 error.
[09:30] <Ben64> calavera: could you pastebin /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[09:30] <Ben64> err... /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:30] <calavera> Ben64: Yeah, give me a second.
[09:30] <milamber> calavera: also have you run boot-repair?
[09:31] <calavera> I manually restored GRUB via nano with some help.
[09:31] <milamber> !grub2 | calavera
[09:32] <calavera> http://paste.opensuse.org/fdd4fbf5
[09:32] <milamber> calavera: in the restore grub link there are instructions to run boot-repair, why don't you try that first?
[09:33] <calavera> ubottu: I'll check it out. Thank you.
[09:33] <fairuz_> Hi guys. Update-grub doesn't detect my win installation. What can I do? thanks
[09:33] <milamber> !grub2 > fairuz_
[09:35] <fairuz_> Already took a look at that milamber
[09:36] <milamber> fairuz_: can you pastebin the recommendations from boot-repair please
[09:42] <calavera> Ben64: Are you still there?
[09:42] <lemonsparrow> I am trying to start my nginx server using the command sudo /etc/init.d/nginx start and I get this error : start-stop-daemon: command not found
[09:42] <lemonsparrow> how can I fix this ?
[09:42] <lemonsparrow> oS is RHEL server 6
[09:43] <lemonsparrow> 6.3
[09:44] <Jdeks> hi
[09:44] <Jdeks> don't suppose anyone's free to help with a LUKS problem?
[09:45] <Jdeks> hello?
[09:47] <Jdeks> anyone here?
[09:47] <ikonia> many people are here
[09:47] <fennng_> ls
[09:47] <fennng_> 中文?
[09:48] <ikonia> !cn | fennng_
[09:48] <Jdeks> anyone know much about LUKS?
[09:48] <fennng_> xterm
[09:48] <fennng_> xterm
[09:48] <fennng_> xterm
[09:48] <FloodBot1> fennng_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <fennng_> donno what happen
[09:51] <k1l> !ask | Jdeks
[09:52] <Jdeks> THe situation is....complex
[09:52] <Jdeks> putting it in one line would be impossible
[09:52] <ikonia> Jdeks: just state the problem
[09:52] <Jdeks> okay then
[09:53] <Jdeks> Had a laptop with full disk enc set up using the 12.04 alternate disk
[09:53] <Jdeks> backed up the entire laptop's hard drive using 'dd'
[09:53] <Jdeks> copied EVERYTHING, boot partitions and all
[09:53] <Jdeks> went fine, no worries
[09:53] <shwouchk_> hello
[09:54] <Jdeks> later, i plugged in the backup drive to the same laptop, and tried to mount it, so i could copy new files to the backup
[09:54] <Jdeks> except, it wouldnt mount.
[09:54] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[09:55] <Jdeks> shut down the laptop with the backup still plugged in
[09:55] <Jdeks> it did a proper shut down, no worries
[09:55] <Jdeks> unplugged the backup, treied to restart the laptop
[09:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> does dd create images and clones?
[09:57] <Jdeks> it wouldn't. after the initial cryptsetup password prompt, it drops to a initramfs prompt, saying it cant find /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[09:57] <Jdeks> it'll only start if i plug back in the external backup, in which case it actually boots off the backup, not the internal drive
[09:57] <Jdeks> if i try to take the internal drive out and mount it on another computer, it wont mount either
[10:03] <shwouchk_> anyone?
[10:05] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[10:05] <ikonia> !anyone | shwouchk_
[10:07] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:07] <Ironsight> I want to install kubuntu, I currently have windows 8 installed (upgraded from 7). Will grub2 mess up windows 8 or vice versa? Is there something special I need to do upon installation?
[10:07] <raven_> hi
[10:07] <Ironsight> (or ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu)
[10:08] <raven_> problems with WinTV Aero dvb-t stick. need help please. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/cE3uiGFZ
[10:08] <jdeks> sorry, connection dropped. did anyone have any ideas for my little problem?
[10:09] <Ironsight> Has anyone had any issues dual booting windows 8 and *ubuntu?
[10:10] <jdeks> if its anything like getting windows 7 and ubuntu to co-operate,i woulkd say yes, hella issues
[10:11] <Ironsight> I didn't have any issues with windows 7 and ubuntu o.O
[10:11] <kroq-gar78> jdeks, i guess it really depends on which machines. I've never really had problems with getting them to cooperate.
[10:11] <jdeks> well, ashit, i cant even get ubuntu to work on its own at the moment
[10:12] <jdeks> so im obviously doing something wrong
[10:12] <Ironsight> unless you wanted to look at data in your ubuntu partition in windows 7 since it can't read ext4/ext3/zfs/xfs/btrfs/risorfs
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> jdeks  my advice: post the LUKS issue on a help forum
[10:13] <jdeks> have done already
[10:13] <jdeks> on TWO
[10:13] <jdeks> they said come here
[10:13] <raven_> problems with WinTV Aero dvb-t stick. need help please. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/cE3uiGFZ
[10:13] <jdeks> after 2 days of basically silence
[10:14] <kroq-gar78> jdeks, I'm not an expert, but vgchange -ay find anythingy?
[10:14] <jdeks> "no volume groups found"
[10:14] <mvt007geek> who is familiar with emu8086 here ?
[10:14] <jdeks> SOMEHOW, the original internal laptop drive no longer has a 'volume group'
[10:14] <bekks> mvt007geek: Why not just asking your actual question?
[10:14] <codephobic> hi
[10:14] <kroq-gar78> !ask | mvt007geek
[10:15] <bekks> raven_: Line 6, you are missing firmware.
[10:15] <raven_> bekks, no - its all in the right folder
[10:15] <bekks> raven_: You paste says something different. And I believe in your paste.
[10:15] <mvt007geek> ubottu: ok :)
[10:16] <codephobic> I think I might have installed eclipse Juno incorrectly. I have it in my "/opt" folder, it seems to work well when I launch it by double-clicking the icon in the folder, but when I try to launch it via terminal ("eclipse") I am told that it is not installed. Also, the icon is nowhere on the launcher of within the menu system.
[10:16] <raven_> bekks, ls -l in /lib/firmware/KERNEL says me lot more different things than the paste
[10:16] <jdeks> if anyone cares, here's more on my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233684/luks-initramfs-boot-problem-dev-mapper-ubuntu-root-does-not-exist
[10:16] <raven_> otherwise i would not ask
[10:17] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: what method did you "install" it?  a package? a script? copy-paste?
[10:17] <jdeks> and here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12428680#post12428680
[10:17] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, I just downloaded the package, I think.
[10:17] <bekks> raven_: The paste clearly states that the firmware cannot be loaded - so it is missing a loadable firmware.
[10:18] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: from where? was it a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2?
[10:18] <raven_> i know but i do not know why
[10:18] <bekks> raven_: Because of a corrupt file, a file not matching the device, etc.
[10:18] <raven_> hm
[10:18] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, from the eclipse website - juno. I downloaded and extracted the package and placed it within the '/opt' folder.
[10:19] <mvt007geek> bekks: i have debian now.i want to run an emu8086 program.where i can do it?
[10:20] <bekks> codephobic: You have to add the path to the eclipse binary to your $PATH
[10:20] <bekks> mvt007geek: Not in here. We do not support debian. Maybe just ask in #debian
[10:20] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: yeah, all I can find on there is .tar files. you probably want to either create a symlink from the eclipse directory to the /usr/bin directory or add the eclipse directory to the path
[10:20] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, I can't remember exactly, to be honest (installed it last week)
[10:20] <codephobic> bekks, ah I think that might be the problem!
[10:21] <mvt007geek> bekks:  what can i do now? in there they told use wine but wine didn't work:(
[10:21] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, bekks so basically I create a ln -s within /usr/bin to /opt/eclipse/eclipse?
[10:22] <bekks> mvt007geek: We have no clue about debian and we do not support it.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> mvt007geek: if wine doesnt support it and if there is no way to build it than you cant use it
[10:22] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: just the executable, but yes, that's the idea.
[10:22] <bekks> codephobic: No. Add a path entry in $PATH to point to /opt/eclipse-installdir/eclipse-binary
[10:22] <kroq-gar78> bekks: is there a difference or a security problem with a symlink?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> shouldnt be
[10:23] <mvt007geek> bekks: gnomefreak: thanks
[10:23] <gnomefreak> np
[10:23] <Jordan_U> jdeks: Having two volumes with the same UUID in the same machine is always a bad idea. Universally Unique IDentifiers really need to be Unique. My guess is that somehow your LUKS volume on the internal drive was corrupted while trying to write to it / the external (perhaps for example, something opened /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo and another process wrote to /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo as part of unmounting, thinking it was the same device ( ...
[10:23] <Jordan_U> ... and the device /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo pointed to changed after adding the external disk).
[10:24] <Jordan_U> jdeks: Be careful that your backup doesn't get corrupted in the same way.
[10:24] <bekks> kroq-gar78: There shouldnt be, but thats the "normal" way to add applications to your path. In /usr/bin you normally do not have things from /opt
[10:25] <jdeks> hi jordan, thanks, mind if we move this to private convo?
[10:26] <kroq-gar78> mvt007geek: looks like a lot of people are referring to pcemu, but i've got no experience with it, sorry.
[10:26] <Jordan_U> jdeks: I prefer to keep support discussion in-channel where more people can chime in, and ensure that you're getting good advice. Also I'm going to sleep soon, which would make someone else jumping in that much more valuable :)
[10:26] <smilie> Hi! I have problem with phpmyadmin and documentaion tells me to go to ./scripts folder. Do you know where is it? I'm desperate while looking for it.
[10:27] <jdeks> okay
[10:27] <jdeks> no worried
[10:27] <jdeks> your hypopthesis is what I suspected (in general terms). I should have realized it was a bad idea.
[10:27] <jdeks> question is, is there any way to read the data off the orignal drive now?
[10:27] <jdeks> or is it lost?
[10:27] <smilie> is this help channel btw? O_o
[10:28] <bekks> smilie: Yes.
[10:28] <smilie> thx :))
[10:28] <smilie> and does anyone know what mean that ./ ?
[10:28] <smilie> or where should I look for ./scripts?
[10:28] <codephobic> bekks, I've just had a google of adding to $PATH, and I got a stackoverflow suggestion to add the line into my "bashrc" file, but I don't see anywhere in there that it would naturally fit. Also, aren't .bash.. files user specific (this one sits in the base of my personal home directory), surely that's not the correct way to do it?
[10:29] <bekks> smilie: It means "execute the following script or file from the current directory".
[10:29] <k1l> smilie: ./ is meant as the directory you are currently on
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> smilie  . means current directory, in general
[10:29] <bekks> codephobic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[10:29] <k1l> smilie: so its a subfolder from the position you are on
[10:29]  * gnomefreak wonders if i should repeat what every else said :P
[10:30] <smilie> ah, great. then I suppose I need to read whole manual for phpmyadmin O_o
[10:30] <codephobic> thanks bekks
[10:30] <codephobic> thanks kroq-gar78 too
[10:30] <jdeks> Jordan_U: I don't really care about getting the original internal drive bootable again.I just want to get it mounted somehow, so I can get my last week of work off it. everything else is on the backup, with DOES mount just fine
[10:31] <Jordan_U> jdeks: I don't know much about recovering from problems with LUKS other than that it's good to have a backup of the LUKS header, which thankfully you do.
[10:31] <jdeks> okay
[10:31] <kroq-gar78> similie probably it's where phpmyadmin was installed
[10:31] <jdeks> well thanks for your help in any case
[10:31] <bekks> smilie: How did you install it?
[10:31] <jdeks> much appreciated
[10:31] <Jordan_U> jdeks: I would recommend against mounting the backup while the original is connected to the same machine, even if the original is unmountable.
[10:31] <kroq-gar78> similie, my guess is the directory "/usr/share/phpmyadmin/pmd/scripts", based on the package listing
[10:32] <smilie> bekks: via center of soft for ubuntu (i have xubuntu)
[10:32] <jdeks> Jordan: roger. backup is now 'quaraNTINED'
[10:33] <Jordan_U> jdeks: Hopefully some of http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#6._Backup_and_Data_Recovery is helpful.
[10:33] <jdeks> thanks
[10:34] <smilie> kroq_gar78: thx I've found that folder. It exists, but there are no sql scripts in it
[10:34] <smilie> only js scripts
[10:37] <Jordan_U> jdeks: It looks like the best place to go for LUKS support is the dm-crypt mailing list, dm-crypt@saout.de .
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> .de, that's german
[10:38] <llutz> domain is german, content isn't
[10:40] <jdeks> Jordan_U: excellent. I'll send them an email. Thanks very much :)
[10:42] <Jordan_U> jdeks: You're welcome.
[10:44] <smilie> well, my main problem is that I installed PhpMyAdmin via Center of software for Ubuntu (Xubuntu) and it makes me troubles. Variables of PMA are not working well, they are red. Do you know how to repair quickly?
[10:44] <smilie> Reinstall is not working
[10:45] <bekks> smilie: A reinstall most likely does not repair things - on linux, in general.
[10:45] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[10:45] <cousin_luigi> How come acroread is no longer available on Quantal?
[10:45] <smilie> yeah, just people sooner on mint forums adviced me things like that
[10:45] <bekks> smilie: It depends on the variables you are trying to use. And yes, you have to get through the phpmyadmin manual to get to know on how to set and use them.
[10:46] <smilie> bekks: it's 10 variables, and documentation not working. It's telling me to execute scripts which are not there
[10:47] <bekks> smilie: Do you use Mint?
[10:47] <smilie> bekks: no, i'm on xubuntu now
[10:47] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: some software can get removed from the repos for various reasons, usually because they are no longer maintained
[10:48] <bekks> smilie: "Documentation not working" means what exactly?
[10:48] <smilie> bekks: short manual how to do it tells me: "Create tables by script in ./scripts/create_tables.sql
[10:48] <OerHeks> cousin_luigi, get it from their website http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/
[10:48] <smilie> bekks: there are no sql scripts in there
[10:49] <Abhijit> hi. i am getting error xlib exntension xfree86 dri missing on display 0:0.
[10:49] <smilie> bekks: only ajax.js history.js iecanvas.js move.js
[10:49] <Abhijit> help please
[10:49] <bekks> smilie: Which Ubuntu do you use exactly - which version?
[10:49] <Abhijit> on ubuntu 12.04
[10:49] <smilie> xubuntu 12.10
[10:51] <bekks> smilie: Look at /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/examples/create_tables.sql.gz
[10:51] <cousin_luigi> OerHeks: I'd like a repository so that I won't have to keep it up-to-date manually.
[10:51] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: It's still available for precise.
[10:52] <bekks> smilie: And basically, those PMA tables/variables arent needed.
[10:52] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: Does it mean it will have an unsupported package for the next 3-5 years or so?
[10:53] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: there must be a reason for it not being included in quantal, i just gave you the most common one, i don't know if it applies to acroread
[10:53] <ki9a> is there anythingthat would let me send keystrokes to the running X via an ssh window? I have xbmc running on ubuntu without a keyboard attached and want to type something
[10:54] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: what's wrong with evince?
[10:54] <bekks> ThinkT510: Evince has problems with certain PDF forms, with certain PDF containing DRM stuff, etc.
[10:54] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: Some documents, especially ones with interactive contents, aren't rendered well on evince.
[10:55] <smilie> bekks: thx, i have that sql script, gonna launch it.
[10:55] <cousin_luigi> This said, does anyone know if there's a repository, more or less official, for adobe reader?
[10:55] <bekks> cousin_luigi: Just download it from www.adobe.com
[10:56] <gnomefreak> i cant recall if the extra repos has it or not
[10:56] <Ycarene> I have wine 1.5.20 installed and I want to revert it to wine 1.5.19, how would I do that?
[10:57] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: acroread doesn't appear to be in precise either, are you sure it isn't in the partner repo or something?
[10:57] <cousin_luigi> bekks: see above
[10:58] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: It is in the partner repo, but not for Quantal.
[10:58] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: oh
[10:58] <bekks> cousin_luigi: You could use okular instead.
[10:58] <cousin_luigi> bekks: stop wasting my time
[10:58] <bekks> cousin_luigi: Sorry for being helpful. Ignore set.
[10:59] <gnomefreak> try either [artner repo or medibuntu(not suggesting to use medibuntu)
[11:00] <ThinkT510> gnomefreak: he left
[11:00] <gnomefreak> oh damn thanks ThinkT510
[11:03] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[11:04] <NikP> When I shutdown my server over "sudo shutdown -P now", the harddrive stops and all services stopped too, but the system power does not switch after the system halt.
[11:05] <NikP> (My english isn't so good)
[11:05] <sl3ax> hi to all! In lsof 4.81 in Ubuntu 12.04 there's a -D flag in the man. The binary doesn't accept it anyway. lsof -h doesn't list -D flag. SO there isn't?
[11:07] <ThinkT510> sl3ax: if you think you've found a bug you can report it, please make sure the bug doesn't already exist first
[11:07] <ThinkT510> !launchpad | sl3ax
[11:07] <tarunno> hello everyone
[11:08] <tarunno> I am having trouble adding a network printer in 12.04
[11:08] <tarunno> can anyone help
[11:08] <gnomefreak> use ubuntu-bug $PACKAGE it will give you possible results to dups
[11:09] <gnomefreak> sl3ax: ^^^
[11:09] <GregMarkus> chrome browser wont do anything, seems likke a common problem but only finding windows solutions - anyone know a fix?
[11:10] <ThinkT510> GregMarkus: any reason you're not using chromium instead?
[11:11] <disharmonic> tarunno, what's the issue?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> "wont do anything" its really hard to help you if you dont explain the isssus
[11:11] <gnomefreak> this is also something you want to file a bug report on
[11:12] <GregMarkus> ThinkT510,  none that i can rememebr i tried it before something about it sucked
[11:12] <tarunno> disharmonic: found an issue already
[11:12] <GregMarkus> gnomefreak, if you've had this issue it would
[11:12] <tarunno> cups service wasn't running
[11:12] <ThinkT510> GregMarkus: chrome isn't in the repos, chromium is; that means we can only support chromium here
[11:12] <disharmonic> ah k
[11:13] <GregMarkus> ThinkT510,  ok i'll give chromium a try then
[11:13] <tarunno> disharmonic: wasn't able to enter the cups webinterface
[11:13] <GregMarkus> just hope it doesn't suck
[11:13] <gnomefreak> GregMarkus: i reccomend you try chromium to see if it changes
[11:14] <JohnSnowstorm> hello, I want to get audio highlights working in xchat but can't find the default sounds, I downloaded a couple of other beeps in mp3 but they sound like really harsh static when played with the default player, any suggestions?
[11:14] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[11:14] <GregMarkus> gnomefreak, well it wont change it , it will just be giving up and trying something else -the fact is at this moment I need it up(if it can run the extensions) more than /I need to fix it so I'll address chrome later
[11:14] <selite> Hello, what is the channel for C Programming?
[11:14] <bazhang> JohnSnowstorm, ask in #xchat
[11:15] <bazhang> ##c selite
[11:15] <aLeSD> hi there
[11:15] <JohnSnowstorm> kk, will do.
[11:15] <aLeSD> could you suggest me a good app for twitter in 12.10 ?
[11:15] <GregMarkus> chromium-bsu
[11:15] <bazhang> aLeSD, apt-cache search twitter to find something
[11:15] <ThinkT510> GregMarkus: chromium-browser
[11:15] <GregMarkus> sweet
[11:17] <disharmonic> tarunno, glad you solved it ;)
[11:17] <GregMarkus> ThinkT510, weird only bsu showed at first, now all do...and now chrome is working
[11:20] <sl3ax> hi to all! In lsof 4.81 in Ubuntu 12.04 there's a -D flag in the man. The binary doesn't accept it anyway. lsof -h doesn't list -D flag. SO there isn't?
[11:20] <jackbrown> hello
[11:20] <AJBLR> hello
[11:21] <sl3ax> NikP: have you tried also with poweroff or init 0?
[11:22] <thunder1212> how can i create live usb for any linux distro in ubuntu 12.04
[11:22] <bazhang> thunder1212, it varies. is it a hybrid iso? you could use dd or just cat the iso to the stick
[11:22] <OerHeks> thunder1212, unetbootin can
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !usb > thunder1212
[11:23] <bazhang> thunder1212, there is also unetbootin
[11:23] <bazhang> thunder1212, ubuntu and debian use a hybrid iso for the latest
[11:25] <thunder1212> bazhang:  OerHeks i tried unet bootin but while booting it shows no operaating system found
[11:27] <thunder1212> how do i find if its hybrid
[11:27] <bazhang> thunder1212, depends. what distro. search distrowatch.com or the like and find out
[11:28] <bazhang> thunder1212, or just ask in their channel here in freenode
[11:28] <thunder1212> bazhang: ok yeah thanks...
[11:29] <bazhang> thunder1212, you can use alis to find their channels
[11:29] <bazhang> !alis | thunder1212
[11:30] <jackbrown> could anyone expalin me why in the startup applications vino-server is set  with this command? "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable"
[11:30] <thunder1212> msg alis Mag
[11:31] <Fuchs> /msg alis      including the /, which has to be the first character. You also want to include the wildcards (*)
[11:31] <protheus> Hi
[11:34] <shwouchk_> ikonia: I did ask my real question. I just didn't want to repeat it too soon
[11:34] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[11:35] <idruta> are you sure that ur router is supporting N?
[11:35] <hilarious> is there a similar command to control-z that would let me 'background' a program without it being connected to that particular terminal window ?
[11:35] <idruta> hilarious, screen?
[11:35] <hilarious> of course but let's say i'm already started and i forgot to use screen
[11:36] <MalMen> hello, it is possible install ubuntu in a android based tablet ?
[11:36] <idruta> is the service so critical? write to your bashrc startup command for screen
[11:37] <idruta> so each time you open a terminal, the screen is autostarting
[11:37] <bekks> hilarious: Then you have no chance.
[11:37] <hilarious> that is a great idea
[11:38] <hilarious> i installed ubuntu on a 4GB usb drive
[11:38] <shwouchk_> idruta: yes. It has 2 networks and I'm connected to the N one with the ipad
[11:38] <idruta> hilarious, yup...it's really usefull
[11:38] <hilarious> on a laptop with no hd
[11:38] <hilarious> it works ok, including libre office
[11:38] <shwouchk_> hilarious: let me suggest tmux however, so that you can attach to the same session from multiple terminals
[11:39] <hilarious> if my other computers all died at the same time
[11:39] <hilarious> it would be of use
[11:39] <idruta> shwouchk_, what card do you use? check if there is a specific driver for your card
[11:39] <shwouchk_> hilarious: also, I would discourage the idea because you would have a bunch or screen sessions running all the time
[11:39] <hilarious> never heard of tmux
[11:39] <shwouchk_> idruta: there is and it is installed
[11:40] <hilarious> shwouchk_,  - i can do that with screen though
[11:40] <hilarious> what is different
[11:40] <shwouchk_> idruta: and I said what card I use
[11:40] <hilarious> you mean fully 'attach' it to that terminal
[11:40] <shwouchk_> hilarious: you can connect to the same screen session from multiple terminals? how?
[11:40] <idruta> shwouchk_, oh sry, let me think
[11:40] <bekks> shwouchk_: screen -x
[11:41] <hilarious> at the same time ?
[11:41] <bekks> shwouchk_: Yes.
[11:41] <bekks> hilarious: ^^
[11:41] <idruta> shwouchk_, can you try it on the other linux machine?
[11:42] <hilarious> dunno, i connect to my screen sessions from whatever terminal i think
[11:42] <shwouchk_> idruta: no other machine, and it is a laptop
[11:42] <shwouchk_> hilarious: but not simultaniously
[11:42] <hilarious> yeah but i don't even understand what 'simultaneously' means
[11:42] <idruta> shwouchk_, oh, ok then, are you sure that the specific drivers is loaded and using by ur card?
[11:42] <_bb_> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:42] <shwouchk_> hilarious bekks apparently simultaneously
[11:42] <shwouchk_> nice
[11:43] <shwouchk_> idruta: we are talking, aren't we?
[11:43] <hilarious> do the two terminals fight over the cursor ?
[11:44] <bekks> shwouchk_: hilarious: Using screen, it is possible to connect from whatever terminal, AND, in addition, it is possible to connect from two or more terminals at the same time.
[11:44] <shwouchk_> hilarious: no idea what that means
[11:44] <hilarious> well sorry
[11:44] <hilarious> i just have no concept of what it means to have two terminals connected to one screen session at the same time
[11:45] <shwouchk_> did you ever use a computer with two monitors showing the same thing?
[11:45] <hilarious> yeah
[11:45] <shwouchk_> hilarious: same thing
[11:45] <bekks> hilarious: It is designed to share a terminal, to show someone on the second terminal what you are doing, and to look at what the other one is doing.
[11:46] <hilarious> so that's what i'm saying, i mean, let's say that i'm over here connected to a screen session from a terminal and then someone else has an ssh session to another terminal on this machine, and they are simultaneously connected to the same screen session that my terminal is connected to
[11:46] <hilarious> so if i am typing right arrow and they are typing left arrow will the cursor keep going back and forth ?
[11:47] <nicofs> I can't "find" dvb-t channels in Kaffein - there is a device, I can scan - but there are no results. While scanning, signal strength varies from 27%-100% and the "tuned" light is on a few times. All looks well, there are just no channels afterwards... what do i do? lsusb&dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1482225/
[11:57] <shwouchk_> hilarious: yes
[11:57] <shwouchk_> hilarious: both terminals are in control
[11:58] <hilarious> oh ok
[11:58] <hilarious> well i guess that could be cool, in some situation
[11:58] <hilarious> you could chat in a text editor
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <Ironsight> Umm, just installed ubuntu 12.10 and I can't find "additional drivers"
[11:59] <Ironsight> as in, the app that installs the nvidia drivers
[12:00] <ThinkT510> Ironsight: they have been moved to a tab in software sources
[12:00] <Ironsight> ah, thanks
[12:00] <joey8> .
[12:01] <angs> is there any good usb sniffer for ubuntu?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> angs, run lsusb in the terminal to see if your device is listed
[12:05] <angs> blueskaj, I am more interested in to see the transferred data on the usb port
[12:05] <jackbrown> hi there could anyone explain me this please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2323535&postcount=13
[12:05] <angs> do you know any good usb sniffing program that works on ubuntu?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> ah
[12:06] <ThinkT510> jackbrown: what needs explaining?
[12:07] <jackbrown> ThinkT510: I need to controll a GUI on a remote machine
[12:09] <ThinkT510> jackbrown: the whole gui or just one app?
[12:10] <sgtkilljoy> jackbrown: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[12:16] <disharmonic> hey guys, anyone know where Unity stores desktop wallpapers?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> angs, check out interceptty  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1579391
[12:17] <angs> BluesKaj, yhank you, I was reading the same link :)
[12:18] <BluesKaj> angs, ok :)
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> disharmonic  look /usr/share/backgrounds/
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> look in*
[12:26] <chhotu_> where can i find the list of pre-installed software in ubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <sara_ubuntu_girl> hello room
[12:29] <chhotu_> hello
[12:29] <chhotu_> where can i find the list of pre-installed software in ubuntu 12.04
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> chhotu_  what you can do: boot a live session, open a terminal and type dpkg -l|grep ii|awk '{print $2}' > ~/Documents/packages
[12:29] <sara_ubuntu_girl> Q: i had two ubuntu installations: 11.10 and 10.04 , somehow 10.04 is missing after i installed updates :( ... how can i get it back ... tired googling but no help
[12:30] <sara_ubuntu_girl> hi MonkeyDust can u guide me ?
[12:31] <sgtkilljoy> sara_ubuntu_girl: in terminal "sudo update-grub"
[12:31] <auronandace> sara_ubuntu_girl: sounds like a grub issue
[12:31] <sara_ubuntu_girl> sgtkilljoy auronandace bundle of thanks let me try it
[12:32] <BluesKaj> chhotu_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop , and google is your friend
[12:33] <mattronix> Hello all
[12:36] <disharmonic> MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:38] <channel_> Hello,
[12:38] <channel_> I need help with PHP and PHPEmail.  Please direct me to the right forum.
[12:40] <Abhijit> how to know which graphics card I have in 10.04?
[12:43] <Abhijit> help
[12:43]  * joey8 is playing OpenTTD
[12:44] <DJones> Abhijit: Type lspci in a terminal that will give you details of the hardware in your computer
[12:45] <DJones> Abhijit: You should see a line starting VGA compatible controller with details of your graphics card
[12:46] <Abhijit> DJones, i run it. but in 12.04 it shows full name i.e. intel atom in 10.04 it only shows intel device
[12:47] <blami> Abhijit: that's ok
[12:47] <DJones> Abhijit: Can you pastebin the info that lspci in 10.04 gives so we can have a look at the list
[12:47] <majnoon> !ot
[12:47] <channel_> Thanks
[12:49] <majnoon> i got that for ME :P
[12:50] <Abhijit> DJones, 00:02.0 vga compatible controller: intel corporation device 0be2 (rev 09) i can not copy paste full because its in another offline computer
[12:51] <DJones> Abhijit: ok, let me have a look
[12:51] <bekks> Abhijit: You could use an USB stick to transfer the output.
[12:52] <Abhijit> bekks, :-)
[12:54] <DJones> Abhijit: As far as I can see, that looks to be about as much detail on the model I can find
[12:54] <Abhijit> DJones, ok
[12:55] <Abhijit> DJones, which graphics driver should i install for it?
[12:55] <net-games> ola
[12:59] <memetic> Hello.  I have two nvidia 560 TI cards in my system, running Ubuntu 12.10, with three displays.  I've read that some folks get weird lock up issues.  I am having one of those issues, where I can't even ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the console.
[12:59] <bjensen> Im trying to pick a rack server from dell…R320, R420 or so..but I don't know if I can use software raid on the embedded data controller they have?
[12:59] <memetic> I experience this issue when using nvidia's binary drivers (current, 310, 304) and noveau.
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> bjensen  #ubuntu-server
[13:00] <bjensen> thanks
[13:00] <memetic> I'm not sure how to determine if this is a driver issue or not.  Has anyone else experienced similar problems with nvidia cards, particularly the 560 ti cards?
[13:04] <Ycarene> How often does scott ritchie come in here?
[13:04] <bekks> Never heard of him.
[13:04] <Ycarene> Yokozar
[13:10] <shwouchk_> Hello
[13:11] <idruta> hi
[13:11] <channel_> Hello,  I am practicing with PHP and have installed PHPemail to send mail from my webpage.  Can someone help me make it work or direct me to the appropriate channel?
[13:12] <shwouchk_> I have a laptop with an intel centrino 2230 N wifi card. I'm using ubuntu 12.10. I can connect fine to B/G networks, but I don't even see N networks. How can I enable the N functionality of my card?
[13:12] <whimneil> I am facing a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04. The problem is when I boot into my system, it says “cannot open password database” and restarts automatically.
[13:13] <t4nk680> can someone help me upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 i tried everything and its just not working im really stuck
[13:13] <Aurauxis> t3nk680: Please tell us more.
[13:13] <bekks> t4nk680: "not working" is pretty generic.
[13:13] <bekks> !details | t4nk680
[13:14] <whimneil> Can anyone help me
[13:14] <whimneil> cannot open password database and the system reboots
[13:14] <bekks> whimneil: So what did you do before?
[13:14] <t4nk680> well the output i got was failed to fetch
[13:15] <bekks> t4nk680: Please provide the full details as being asked.
[13:15] <whimneil> bekks: I didnt do anything, I guess the /etc has gone bad
[13:15] <whimneil> bekks: now I dont know how to repair it
[13:15] <t4nk680> what more do you want it failed to fetch
[13:15] <bekks> whimneil: Then you have to get your backup and restore it.
[13:15] <whimneil> how?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> whimneil  for a start, what's the output of lsb_release -sd
[13:15] <t4nk680> i mean in th update manager
[13:16] <bekks> t4nk680: "failed to fetch" when doing what exactly? We have NO clue what you did.
[13:16] <bekks> MonkeyDust: He cant even log in anymore.
[13:16] <whimneil> MonkeyDust I didnt get what you want me to check?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> whimneil  nvm, misread, my mistake
[13:17] <whimneil> ok
[13:17] <t4nk680> it failed to fetch when i after the update manager gets to getting to packages
[13:19] <guest-A4wemF> I can't login in to ubuntu 12.10 ... only can log on to guest session..
[13:19] <whimneil> is there any way to reset the root password so that I can login?
[13:19] <Aurauxis> whimneil: try recovery options for Ubuntu.
[13:20] <whimneil> I tried that
[13:20] <whimneil> Aurauxis i tried that but its still the same, any thing different that I should try in the recovery options?
[13:20] <guest-A4wemF> can anyone help me out
[13:20] <Aurauxis> whimneil: drop to root prompt
[13:21] <Aurauxis> You can change your passwd there.
[13:21] <mvt007geek> eb i installed wine and installed emu8086.but i don't know how use emu8086 after i closed emu8086 window?should i setup emu8086 every time i closed emu8086?
[13:21] <whimneil> aurauxis you mean the CUI mode?
[13:21] <lewis1711> does anyone know of a raster editor that has annotations? preferably something simple :)
[13:22] <guest-A4wemF> I can't login in to 12.10 .... when I try redirects to login session again .. only can use guest session please help
[13:22] <Aurauxis> whimneil: Yeah...
[13:22] <whimneil> aurauxis how can I get to the CUI mode before getting the login screen
[13:23] <Aurauxis> whimneil: grub menu
[13:23] <Aurauxis> Does it appear during boot?
[13:23] <whimneil> no
[13:24] <ThinkT510> !text | whimneil
[13:24] <Aurauxis> Boot while holding the shift key, I think.
[13:24] <whimneil> okay
[13:24] <Aurauxis> whimneil: Are you familiar with the "passwd" function?
[13:25] <whimneil> no
[13:25] <whimneil> But I guess that is to reset the password
[13:25] <Aurauxis> Yes
[13:25] <Aurauxis> Just type: passwd <<username>>
[13:25] <whimneil> where and how can I use that ?
[13:25] <whimneil> at the CUI?
[13:25] <Aurauxis> Yes.
[13:26] <whimneil> Okay I will try that
[13:28] <t4nk680> so theres no way to upgrade ubuntu 10.10?
[13:28] <whimneil> Also I want to know how can I repair /etc
[13:28] <Aurauxis> whimneil: That would be beyond my scope.
[13:28] <whimneil> okay
[13:28] <Aurauxis> whimneil: But are you certain something is wrong there in the first place o.O
[13:28] <whimneil> what does that mean?
[13:28] <Aurauxis> whimneil: What makes you think /etc has gone bad?
[13:28] <whimneil> because the /etc directory has the password file in it that is why I think that may be corrupt
[13:29] <Aurauxis> whimneil: Things don't just happen...
[13:30] <Aurauxis> Well, try passwd and see how it goes.
[13:30] <whimneil> sure
[13:30] <whimneil> I will try that and will get back in case I have any more issues
[13:30] <whimneil> thanx everyone n esp Aurauxis
[13:30] <Aurauxis> whimeil: Any time :D
[13:31] <whimneil> cheers
[13:31] <whimneil> cya
[13:31] <Aurauxis> whimeil: Farewell.
[13:31] <Catbuntu> Ubuntu 12.10 with Unity crashed.
[13:32] <Catbuntu> I had a Flash video on background, opened the Dash and it just was ultra laggy and unresponsive.
[13:32] <Catbuntu> I had to go to CTRL ALT F1 and type unity --replace :_
[13:32] <Catbuntu> Is that normal or what?
[13:32] <ThinkT510> Catbuntu: it is certainly normal for flash to get buggy
[13:33] <Aurauxis> Catbuntu: Expect things to happen with Flash every now and then.
[13:33] <never2far> how can i get /tmp cleaned without rebooting or using rm -rf /tmp/*
[13:33] <Catbuntu> Oh OK.
[13:33] <ThinkT510> never2far: thats rather limiting your options
[13:33] <Catbuntu> Then it'd be better to download the music.
[13:34] <Catbuntu> It's Tchaykovski or however it's spelled, don't worry :P
[13:34] <Catbuntu> brb
[13:34] <Aurauxis> never2far: Linux is generally quite good with managing its own housekeeping.
[13:35] <Aurauxis> never2far: You could make a launcher with the said command on your desktop.
[13:35] <never2far> yeah ...and it deletes files if my pc get rebooted ...but if i'm not restarting they are kept there
[13:35] <ThinkT510> never2far: not wise to delete everything in temp unless you know for certain the files aren't in use
[13:36] <Aurauxis> ThinkT510: Good point...
[13:36] <never2far> ThinkT510, i saw there is a upstart script in /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf do you know if I can use it to clean /tmp ?
[13:36] <xpertyz> hi
[13:36] <never2far> ThinkT510, this is why i didn't wanted to use rm /tmp
[13:36] <ThinkT510> never2far: i've never needed to clean tmp sorry, so i don't know
[13:38] <Aurauxis> never2far: Try this http://shuffleos.com/1071/system-clean-ubuntu-linux-apps-temporary-files/
[13:39] <discovered> hi
[13:39] <discovered> Anyone uses Kate?
[13:39] <ThinkT510> discovered: i'm sure plenty of kde users do
[13:41] <discovered> ThinkT510, I am having an small problem that the KATE Indentation always going to normal if am even configuring it to be aligned Indentation automatically.
[13:47] <gagga> ciao
[13:47] <gagga> !list
[13:54] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[13:54] <Aurauxis> tobiasBora: Ello.
[13:55] <tobiasBora> I'd like to know if there is a way to see all applications which send sound to speaker EVEN IF THE PROGRAM DOESN'T USE PULSEAUDIO.
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> I have some trouble .. i can't login in to the my account on 12.10 ... only guest session is working ...
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> what can I do
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> please help
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> is there anyway way to fix this?
[13:56] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Have you forgotten your password?
[13:56] <tobiasBora> Indeed, I've a mic redirection (from the mic to speaker), and I can't find how disable it, because it doesn't appear in pulsecontrol.
[13:56] <kapz> Hello! I am using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and my concern is that Firefox 17.0.1 says that it has disabled the outdated version of Java, how do I correct this?
[13:56] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: if guest is working then that implies there is a settings issue, have you been messing with unity/compiz settings?
[13:57] <guest-VJF2MO> no ... when I am trying login in wit redirect to greeter it self
[13:57] <guest-VJF2MO> I donno what went wrong... I can login in through the ctrl+f1 window
[13:57] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: LightDM?
[13:58] <guest-VJF2MO> I guess it is lightDM
[13:58] <tobiasBora> kapz: did you update java ?
[13:58] <ztgu>  I have problem with suspend to RAM on my laptop. My screen stays black after resume from suspend to ram. Any idea how to fix the problem?
[13:58] <kapz> tobiasBora, i did install openjdk7, if that's what you mean...
[13:59] <guest-VJF2MO> is there anyway to recover from it?
[13:59] <guest-VJF2MO> can I restore or repair ubuntu ??
[14:00] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Have you tried manually restarting the xserver?
[14:00] <guest-VJF2MO> I have removed nvidia-current drivers... i thought it was the problem... but it didn't solve problem...
[14:00] <guest-VJF2MO> I donno??
[14:00] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: reset your unity/compiz settings back to default
[14:01] <guest-VJF2MO> how can I set it to default back??
[14:01] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: if the guest session works but your user does not then it isn't a graphics problem, its a settings problem
[14:01] <blackline> Plz help. I have two internal hdd's which of one is for system (ssd), the other for storage. I've read multiple guides without success. My issue is that now the "other" disc gets mounted as /media/Storage which from what I understand does not happend at boot. I would like the other drive to mount at boot. I suppose this is done in fstab. I would really appreciate your help.
[14:01] <Judstin> If ur unsure just remove compiz
[14:01] <tobiasBora> kapz: and what about sun-java7-plugin ?
[14:02] <Aurauxis> Judstin: That would be bad.
[14:02] <Harlin> blackline, just a sec
[14:02] <guest-VJF2MO> can I revert back to normal settings??
[14:02] <Harlin> blackline, is this ntfs ?
[14:02] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: login via ctrl-alt-f1 and delete the .compiz directory in your home folder, then  logout and log back in via the gui
[14:02] <kapz> tobiasBora, "E: Unable to locate package sun-java7-plugin"
[14:02] <Judstin> Not that bad
[14:02] <guest-VJF2MO> ThinkT510 letme check it ouy
[14:02] <guest-VJF2MO> out*
[14:03] <tobiasBora> kapz: maybe icedtea-7-plugin
[14:03] <Dice-Man> blackline: you have to edit your /etc/fstab file
[14:04] <Harlin> blackline, you probably don't know what your proper device name is for it.
[14:04] <blackline> Harlin - No, it should be ext4
[14:04] <Harlin> do a df -kh ? that should reveal it
[14:04] <Harlin> blackline, ok? that should be easy then.
[14:04] <guest-VJF2MO> ThinkT510 i can't remove it ... i am getting an error .compiz is not empty
[14:04] <blackline> Harlin - Do you want that "codish" name for the drive?
[14:04] <Harlin> blackline, yes
[14:04] <tobiasBora> guest-VJF2MO: and what about moving ?
[14:04] <Harlin> /dev/something
[14:05] <Dice-Man> blackline: sudo fdisk -l
[14:05] <Harlin> there ya go
[14:05] <Harlin> /dev/sd[a-z]
[14:05] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Try this: sudo service gdm stop
[14:05] <Harlin> /dev/sd[a-z][0-9]
[14:05] <Dice-Man> Harlin: or sudo blkid
[14:05] <Harlin> or hd if you have some ancient hardware
[14:05] <Aurauxis> Then, sudo rm .compiz
[14:06] <blackline> Harlin /dev/sdb
[14:06] <Harlin> hah hah ide, ancient ? amazing
[14:06] <Topol> Hello I am having dual boot trouble.. I have installed Ubuntu but as soon as I click it on the statup menu it gives me an error and says its missing. Is there any way I can remove Ubuntu? I am Running Windows 8
[14:06] <blackline> thought you ment the even longer name
[14:06] <Harlin> ok sorry blackline there should be a number for the partition
[14:06] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Then, startx
[14:06] <Harlin> like /dev/sdb1 or something
[14:06] <Harlin> sdb2
[14:06] <blackline> Harlin - UUID="2d156a04-b5bf-41bf-b76b-43926bbc6d15"
[14:06] <Harlin> your line in fstab once you find it should be like:
[14:07] <blackline> It's ext4
[14:07] <Aurauxis> Topol: please, tells us more details about the error.
[14:07] <guest-VJF2MO> Aurauxis UNKNOW INSTANCE
[14:07] <Harlin> /dev/sd1  /path/to/mount  ext4  defaults  1 2
[14:07] <guest-VJF2MO> lemme relogin
[14:07] <Topol> Aurauxis: Can I pm?
[14:07] <guest-VJF2MO> c ya
[14:07] <Harlin> blackline, yeah not the UUID number ;-)
[14:07] <blackline> so sd1 it is?
[14:07] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:07] <Harlin> make that entry in your /etc/fstab and restart ? or ?. unmount and do a: mount -a
[14:08] <Harlin> blackline, you have to make sure the number is correct
[14:08] <ThinkT510> Aurauxis: he is using lightdm, not gdm
[14:08] <Harlin> when it's mounted, do a fdisk -l or df -kh
[14:08] <Aurauxis> ThinkT510: Crap...
[14:08] <sacarlson> Topol:  the sequence that caused the problem might help.  like did you install windows after ubuntu?
[14:08] <Harlin> blackline, do you already have data on this partition?
[14:08] <Harlin> if not, you might not even have it formatted yet.
[14:09] <blackline> Harlin - Yes, it's stuffed with data.
[14:09] <Harlin> ok then find the number for it
[14:09] <blackline> Harlin - But that could be changed if needed. I have backup
[14:09] <Harlin> is it mounted now?
[14:09] <kapz> thanks tobiasBora :) I found the icedtea-7 plugin. But java is not verified at java.com and Firefox doesn'ty know about that plugin
[14:09] <Harlin> no let's not destroy if we don't need to ;-)
[14:09] <Aurauxis> Topol: Sure.
[14:09] <blackline> Harlin Yes, auto from before
[14:10] <Harlin> ok give me the line from df -kh where it shows the disk mounted
[14:10] <blackline> Harlin - /dev/sdb1                917G   58G  813G   7% /media/marcus/Storage
[14:10] <tobiasBora> kapz: do you have the exact error ?
[14:10] <Harlin> ahh cool
[14:10] <tobiasBora> kapz: and did you try this : http://java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.xml
[14:11] <ixio> hi, I am running 12.04 in a VM.. I have added a new HDD (while its powered on) how do I do the equiviliant of a windows "rescan" for new hardware/HDD's and inititate, format and use this disk?
[14:11] <Harlin> which directory do you want to mount it to blackline ?
[14:11] <Harlin> ixio, look up fdisk
[14:11] <blackline> Harlin - this is the thing. My "feeling" is that this folder it uses now "feels" kind of temporary.
[14:11] <Harlin> so which directory would make you feel good?
[14:11] <blackline> Harlin - I would like it to seem clean, this is a permanent drive
[14:11] <Harlin> ;-0
[14:11] <Harlin> ;-)
[14:11] <blackline> Harlin - haha
[14:12] <Harlin> well with Linux (unlike Windows), all partitions have a mount point
[14:12] <Harlin> and you *do* want it to have its own mount point
[14:12] <Harlin> mine on my Linux laptop is something like /mnt/share
[14:12] <Harlin> that makes me feel happy :-)
[14:12] <blackline> Harlin - is /mnt/Storage possible? What would be the logical in compare to my already existing disk?
[14:13] <kapz> tobiasBora, on verifying the java version on the official website, I don't get any error but the applet is never finished verifying and oracle states that it means there is problem with installation or java is not installed.
[14:13] <Harlin> well, to make it extensible, you can do /mnt/storage1 ;-)
[14:13] <Harlin> in case you add external drives and such
[14:13] <Harlin> later
[14:13] <Harlin> ok so let's do this...
[14:13] <Harlin> add this entry in /etc/fstab
[14:13] <blackline> Harlin Sounds nice.
[14:13] <blackline> We will go with storage1
[14:13] <Harlin> /dev/sdb1  /mnt/storage1  ext4 defaults 1 2
[14:14] <Harlin> save it.
[14:14] <blackline> or Storage1 if it's case sensitive ;)
[14:14] <Harlin> do this though...
[14:14] <Harlin> umount /media/marcus/Storage
[14:14] <Harlin> after you add the entry
[14:14] <Harlin> let me know when youve got that far.
[14:14] <ixio> Harlin: fdisk doesnt see /dev/sdb yet..
[14:15] <tobiasBora> kapz: did you try this test : http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[14:15] <Harlin> ixio, hmmm, maybe your issue is at the hardware level
[14:15] <kapz> tobiasBora, on Firefox plugincheck web page it states that Icedted-web plugin is unknown plugin
[14:15] <Harlin> ixio, what kind of drive is it?
[14:15] <blackline> Harlin - Should I add a label?
[14:15] <ixio> Harlin: its a virtual HDD
[14:15] <Harlin> blackline, i dont usually do that but I don't see why not if it makes you feel even better :-D
[14:16] <Harlin> ixio, hmm what is a virtual hard drive ? ;-)
[14:16] <Harlin> hard usually means "hard"
[14:16] <tobiasBora> kapz: and what is the exact error of firefox
[14:16] <kapz> tobiasBora, I tried the test, and the applet is loaded however it states that an update is available!
[14:16] <Harlin> ixio, sorry i should ask, what did you do to set it up initially?
[14:16] <tobiasBora> kapz: me too I've this message.
[14:17] <nebeneffekt> is there a possibility in ubuntu to add a cpu-temperatur-gauge to the panel?
[14:17] <kapz> thanks a ton tobiasBora, atleat I now know that java plugin is working. Neat!
[14:18] <ixio> Harlin: its a virtual machine, therefore it has virtual HDD's.. I have added a new HDD while the server is "powered on" and I need to make ubuntu aware of this fact
[14:18] <ixio> I just dont know how
[14:18] <Harlin> oh
[14:18] <Harlin> ixio, should be the same way? is this vmware or virtual box?
[14:18] <ixio> KVM
[14:18] <tobiasBora> kapz: You're welcome ^^ for exemple, does this applet works ?
[14:18] <ixio> in windows you go to disk manager and "rescan" - I need the ubuntu equivilant
[14:19] <Harlin> ixio, you probably want to go to #kvm or #rhel for the gurus
[14:19] <Harlin> ixio, in the past, ive not had much help here for kvm (no offense ubunters)
[14:19] <ixio> it doesnt really matter what hypervisor I am using.. infact pretend its a physcial box and I have added a hotplug SATA disk
[14:20] <Harlin> yeah it does actually ixio
[14:20] <ixio> how would I scan for this new disk
[14:20] <kapz> tobiasBora, if it passed the java test then I think it does work. You have any website in mind to check?
[14:20] <Harlin> ixio, you could probably use something like qparted
[14:20] <ixio> yeh in the gui I could do it.. I just dunno how to do it from ssh
[14:20] <Harlin> but if fdisk isn't finding it, its possible that it's misconfigured slightly at the hypervisor level unfortunately
[14:21] <tobiasBora> kapz: oh sorry I forgot the link : http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14f/collision_f.htm
[14:21] <kapz> I tried dell.com and the site behaves as it should now. Earlier it didn't respond to the filters.
[14:21] <Harlin> ixio, not sure in ubuntu from the cli either? in redhat there's a curses (cli) interface for it.
[14:21] <Harlin> ixio, just a sec?. let me have a look...
[14:22] <ixio_> oops IE crashed
[14:22] <Harlin> ixio, btw, you have a look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[14:22] <ixio_> #kvm
[14:22] <kapz> tobiasBora, yep the applet is working!
[14:23] <ixio_> thanks for the link Harlin
[14:23] <Harlin> sudo lshw -C disk
[14:23] <Harlin> and then later...
[14:23] <Harlin> sudo fdisk /dev/sd[a-z]
[14:23] <ixio_> yeh its not showing up in lshw.. hmm
[14:24] <tobiasBora> kapz: great !
[14:24] <Harlin> psa: eat lots of oily fish. it are good for you!
[14:25] <Harlin> more coffee...
[14:25] <kapz> cheers :) happy new year *well, a few hours in advance*
[14:27] <tobiasBora> So does anyone know how I could detect the programs which send sound to speakers ? Because I've a mic redirection to the speakers, and I can't find the origin of the redirection, because it doesn't appear at all in pulseaudio. I tried to open qjacktl : the redirection is keep, and the others programs like amarok stop playing (it is normal because jack stop pulseaudio) : it shows that the program isn't linked to pulseaudio, but I
[14:27] <tobiasBora> don't know how find it. Any idéa ?
[14:29] <Quest> hello
[14:31] <Quest> any one here?
[14:35] <Harlin> Quest, yeah
[14:35] <Harlin> looks like 1599 are "here"
[14:35] <Quest> is there a free nice software by which I can record my screen + audio from mic and sound card and put it on youtube?
[14:35] <Harlin> hmm just a sec...
[14:35] <Quest> then 1597 of them are inactive
[14:36] <Quest> Harlin,  I need the same for windows to
[14:36] <Quest> too*
[14:36] <Harlin> heh heh tall order
[14:37] <Harlin> does RecordMyDesktop work in Windows too?
[14:37] <Harlin> hmm
[14:38] <Quest> Harlin, no
[14:40] <JRThump> Any ideas on better PDF viewers than Unity built-in "Document Viewer"? PDF with greyscale photos in adobe reader on windows appear like bad monochrome black and white raster images in document viewer...
[14:41] <Quest> Harlin,  Recordmydesktop for linux and camstudio for windows. found. thanks
[14:42] <tobiasBora> JRThump: I love Okular, but it is initialy for KDE.
[14:42] <Quest> Harlin,  and now we have  1594 are inactive. (progress)
[14:43] <JRThump> tobiasBora: Thanks, will check it out!
[14:47] <jpastore> hi, I received a beaglebone from a friend in another country and it's running ubuntu. I'm having some problems updating it. I'm actually trying to get the wifi working so it will connect to my phone as a hotspot to get the right time for logging
[14:48] <jpastore> the apt-get is failing to update it fails parsing a lpackage list
[14:48] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3).                                           When trying to mount exfat on ubuntu 12.04 and 10.04
[14:48] <jpastore> I've gone through steps and guides on purging the list...but I'm still encountering the problem
[14:51] <Guest42430> hi
[14:51] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3).
[14:54] <dctrd> If I run ubuntu on vm
[14:54] <dctrd> Will it be fast enough ?
[14:54] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3).     Any help would be greatly appreciated??
[14:54] <dctrd> Or I have to install ?
[14:55] <ThinkT510> dctrd: depends what is fast enough for you
[14:55] <guest-bCMO1w> I am running ubuntu 12.10... I can't  login in to my account .... guest session is working fine... so I created new user from terminal by adduser commant... I am still not able to login in with the newly created useraccount.. same problem as before ... anyone can help me out of it :(
[14:55] <johnny> Just don't lag
[14:55] <johnny> That's what I want
[14:56] <ThinkT510> !nickspam | johnny010
[14:56] <ThinkT510> johnny010: try it in a vm and find out
[14:57] <guest-bCMO1w> ThinkT510 it is not working.. still can't able to login... only guest session is working even I created new user account it also have same problem :(
[14:57] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: sorry i can't help
[14:57] <guest-bCMO1w> whether I want to reinstall ubuntu :(??
[14:57] <jpastore> can anyone help with my beaglebone running 12.04? trying to apt-get update, failing to parse package file during update.
[14:58] <guest-bCMO1w> I lost all the work setup :( ...
[14:58] <kart__> @guest - bCM01w  Ctrl+Alt+F1, log into the console, and have a look at ~/.xsession-errors for information why it is not allowing you to log in.
[14:58] <johnny010> ThinkT510
[14:59] <johnny010> AMD have you tried it ?
[14:59] <ThinkT510> johnny010: amd what? my revo has an amd processor and graphics which work well
[15:00] <johnny010> And** sorry
[15:00] <ThinkT510> johnny010: yes, i use vms regularly
 For what do u want to use ubuntu for ?
[15:01] <guest-bCMO1w> kart_ how can I open .xsession-error ?
[15:02] <johnny010> Btw my pc specs are 8gb ram,i7 3.4ghz 3rd generation.2gb video card 1 tb storage....would they be enough ?
[15:02] <johnny010> I think the ram isn't enough
[15:02] <redhandbr> lol
[15:02] <ThinkT510> johnny010: its plenty
[15:03] <johnny010> Ok and can I run it full screen
[15:03] <johnny010> Full full screen
[15:03] <johnny010> Not half of it
[15:03] <guest-bCMO1w> I am getting /user/sbin/lightdm-session: 24: export: bad varriable name @ kart__
[15:03] <ThinkT510> johnny010: virtualbox has a seamless mode you could try
[15:04] <johnny010> What's that ?
[15:04] <guest-bCMO1w> how can I read contents of ~/.xsession-errors
[15:04] <redhandbr> seamless mode let you manage vm's windows on host OS.
[15:05] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: with a text editor
[15:05] <guest-bCMO1w> I am getting error while I am using cat
[15:05] <johnny010> Why I'm not trying is because I'm in bed....tired as hell and not bothered to turn the pc on
[15:05] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, open terminal and type: gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[15:05] <johnny010> redhandbr sorry ?
[15:06] <ThinkT510> johnny010: then come back when you've had some sleep
[15:06] <nashant> Hi guys. How do I check the results of the boot up disk check
[15:06] <johnny010> Ok good idea
[15:06] <johnny010> Bye tc
[15:06] <redhandbr> johnny010, look this http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/virtualboxs-seamless-mode-combine-operating-systems-desktop/
[15:06] <guest-bCMO1w> ThinkT510, redhandbr  I am running it from ctrl+alt+f1
[15:07] <guest-bCMO1w> I cant open the editor there?
[15:07] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: use nano
[15:07] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, so... use nano text editor.
[15:07] <guest-bCMO1w> whether I wanna install it?
[15:07] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, nano already comes with ubuntu.
[15:07] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: nano is installed by default
[15:08] <redhandbr> ps: I love nano.
[15:09] <nashant> Hi guys. How do I check the results of the boot up disk check
[15:11] <Anteli> hello
[15:11] <ixio_> is there a cp equivilant which gives feedback ?
[15:11] <ixio_> progress etc
[15:11] <RELOL> hi
[15:12] <kart__> GUy any help with this error " Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3). "  On trying to mount exfat partition which I was able to access before ??
[15:12] <RELOL> i have problems with audio hdmi
[15:12] <Kraupu> Hello everyone, in this chat I can ask any stupid question about linux ?
[15:12] <ixio_> Kraupu: thats the idea
[15:12] <RELOL> it doesn't work an videos play x3 speed
[15:12] <cfhowlett> Kraupu: why, yes it is!  ask.
[15:12] <Anteli> I'm new to linux. I have hp pavilion dv6 3090eo with windows8 and i would like to get ubuntu 12.04 instead of windows8. Is there a way to do that?
[15:12] <redhandbr> Anteli, sure.
[15:13] <cfhowlett> Anteli: yes.  just install ubuntu 12.04 or even dual boot so you have both.
[15:13] <ixio_> Anteli: look at wubi
[15:13] <Kraupu> ok, im usin ubuntu only 2 days, all my life I was on windows :)
[15:13] <ixio_> Anteli: google "wubi" this is the easiest way to test Ubuntu without removing your Windows install
[15:13] <kart__> error mounting exfat on ubuntu
[15:13] <redhandbr> Kraupu, congrats :)
[15:14] <mtx> i need to learn apache etc for work so was thinking of changing my windows home fileserver to ubuntu, can i easiliy create a software raid 5 array for some of my files from say 3 x 2tb drives?
[15:14] <Anteli> I have tried wubi, but i had problems with it. i think problems caused because of secure boot "feature"
[15:14] <redhandbr> Secure Boot... Urgh.
[15:14] <cfhowlett> Anteli: virtualbox is another option
[15:14] <ixio_> mtx.. do you only have 3 disks in that server?
[15:15] <RELOL> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon
[15:15] <mtx> i have other drives too ixio_
[15:15] <redhandbr> Anteli, go to bios setup and disable Secure Boot, so you can boot to windows 8 or Ubuntu normally.
[15:16] <mtx> 128gb ssd plus a few 2tb drives
[15:16] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Happy New Year!
[15:16] <Anteli> ok, thanks i'll try that
[15:16] <redhandbr> Emmanuel_Chanel, yay!
[15:16] <ixio_> mtx: you will need to boot your OS from a non software RAID disk/array etc.. but once you have the OS loaded you can of course create a software RAID array using Ubuntu and run apache etc
[15:16] <Kraupu> Ok, so first question, I have anothr pc, he has Linux ubuntu, I want to give that pc to my mother but first I want installl windows xp , but when im trying to xp, thes setup cant found Hard drive
[15:16] <nyjkkyjn> I'd like to have optimised ATLAS libraries.. but the official packages aren't optimised, so I need to compile it.. Is there a way to build a deb package, so that I don't have to compile all the software dependant on it
[15:16] <redhandbr> Anteli, good luck!
[15:17] <Kraupu> i think I need fix MBR
[15:17] <shwouchk_> I have a laptop with an intel centrino 2230 N wifi card. I'm using ubuntu 12.10. I can connect fine to B/G networks, but I don't even see N networks. How can I enable the N functionality of my card?
[15:17] <Kraupu> or smth
[15:17] <ixio_> thats an XP problem not a linux problem tho
[15:17] <bekks> Kraupu: No. You need an XP installation medium with at least SP3 for enabling the detection of SATA controllers as installation target. Not an Ubuntu issue, in addition.
[15:18] <Kraupu> so I need win xp winh SP3 yes ?
[15:18] <ixio_> or pres f6 I think it was during install to load additoinal drivers
[15:18] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3). Any one???
[15:18] <mtx> thanks, I plan to boot from the SSD and have the software raid array for films and other drives for other files. I guess I'd share with samba? Can i allow different accounts different access levels?
[15:19] <redhandbr> ls
[15:19] <redhandbr> ops. sorry.
[15:19] <ixio_> mtx: I would consider things like unraid over ubuntu to act as a file server
[15:19] <guest-bCMO1w> can I give administrative privilage to guest session .. so that I can recover my file before formating...?
[15:19] <ixio_> mtx: but to answer your question, yes you can
[15:20] <nashant> is there any reason that my kern.log would be 12GB
[15:20] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, it's easier boot with a pendrive and make your backup.
[15:20] <nashant> and my syslog
[15:21] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:24] <t432> when i had installed ubuntu desktop taskbar on the left used to disappear when you moved the cursor away and would reappear once you moves cursor to the left.  For some reason this no longer happens, its always there.
[15:24] <t432> anyone know how to solve this?
[15:25] <guest-bCMO1w> here is the xsession-errors http://pastie.org/5602476   can't login to acount have a look
[15:25] <supering> Ciao
[15:25] <supering> !list
[15:28] <nebeneffekt> am I right here: buffered memory is the memory which is used right now by applications, amount of data which is continously written to the memmory(ram). cahed memmory, is certain amount of data which is stored in the memory in order to be faster avaiable when cpu wants to read it?
[15:28] <p0rk> How do I update resolv.conf correctly?
[15:33] <ThinkT510> !resolvconf | p0rk
[15:33] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:34] <Kraupu> Happy New YearS ?
[15:34] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:34] <Catbuntu> gnome-panel has support to GTK3?
[15:34] <ThinkT510> frane: do you have a question?
[15:34] <Catbuntu> Or is it purely GTK2?
[15:35] <ThinkT510> Catbuntu: if you are referring to gnome-panel in gnome3 fallback then that supports gtk3
[15:35] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:36] <frane> load .xchat2/budus.so
[15:36] <majnoon> !ot
[15:37] <bhavesh> I was following this guide http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=243793 on Ubuntu 12.04 server but when I ran ./configure it says Checking for OpenSSL... configure: Cannot find OpenSSL's libcrypto
[15:37] <bhavesh> what should I do?
[15:39] <CorruptionEX> Hello?
[15:39] <frane> ciao
[15:39] <frane> !list
[15:39] <nearst> hi ppl. :)
[15:39] <CorruptionEX> I have a question about Ubuntu and E17, Enlightenment
[15:40] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: ask away
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> Anyone know of the Enlightenment shell?
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> Hey, I have windows, but I want to run E17
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> E17, and most other releases, are for linix
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> If I install Wubi, can I run E17
[15:41] <k1l> CorruptionEX: just ask your question
[15:41] <CorruptionEX> I did
[15:41] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: yes, but i'd avoid wubi
[15:41] <CorruptionEX> Can I run E17 with Wubi
[15:41] <k1l> CorruptionEX: you should consider a real install and not using wubi
[15:41] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: why not install linux?
[15:41] <CorruptionEX> I want to stay windows
[15:41] <k1l> CorruptionEX: you can dualboot it
[15:42] <k1l> !dualboot | CorruptionEX
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> How would I go about doing that
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> oh
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> Alright, Lemme look at that page...
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> brb
[15:42] <bhavesh> Is that a PHP bug?
[15:43] <k1l> CorruptionEX: and you can run whatever DesktopEnviroment is in the repositories, which are alot. and e17 is in it
[15:43] <CorruptionEX> ?
[15:43] <CorruptionEX> repositories?
[15:43] <ThinkT510> !software | CorruptionEX
[15:44] <k1l> CorruptionEX: ubuntu holds alot of software and programs sorted out for your ubuntu version in their repositories. so its a easy and safe install
[15:44] <CorruptionEX> Ok, so if I were to install UB, I can simply select the E17 installer?
[15:45] <k1l> CorruptionEX: you can select the e17-package and it will it install it. yes
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> Ok
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> Now
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> What is Wubi?
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> Is it UB for windows?
[15:46] <bhavesh> !wubi | CorruptionEX
[15:46] <CorruptionEX> Since I will need UB, I want to get it, but keep windows
[15:46] <CorruptionEX> Ok
[15:46] <k1l> no, it installs ubuntu inside windows instead in own partitions. so if windows fails, ubuntu fails too. so that is not a good choice
[15:46] <k1l> its just ment for testing purposes.
[15:46] <CorruptionEX> So, I install Wubi, and find the e17 package, and it will install it
[15:47] <CorruptionEX> correct?
[15:47] <Zhaboo> hi, is there any way to add (un-)compress context (right-click) menu(s) to the file/open dialogs in mint/ubuntu?
[15:47] <k1l> CorruptionEX: go with dualboot. install ubuntu into own partitions on your harddisk
[15:47] <Davidowski> can someone tell me why ubuntu frozes after I boot him from usb https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25404973/IMG_20121231_154120.jpg
[15:47] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: seriously, a vm would be better than using wubi
[15:47] <CorruptionEX> I wont be using UB very much by iteself, I just want E17.
[15:47] <CorruptionEX> vm?
[15:48] <k1l> CorruptionEX: and with grub2 you can choose on every boot if you want to start ubunut or windows
[15:48] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: a virtual machine
[15:48] <Zhaboo> (I am using both mint and ubuntu on different computers and virtual machines, would also like to know which part of the system this feature actually comes from, if it is provided by ubuntu or need to be separate solutions)
[15:48] <CorruptionEX> Sorry, Im not very familiar with abreivations
[15:48] <k1l> CorruptionEX: why do you want e17 when you wont use it? o_O
[15:49] <CorruptionEX> I want tot use E17, but They only have installs for Linix
[15:49] <ThinkT510> k1l: i think its the ooh shiney factor
[15:49] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: a vm is a great testing ground
[15:50] <CorruptionEX> No, I want to use 17, but they only have installs for Linix
[15:50] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: you can mess anything up, its safe to use a vm
[15:50] <k1l> CorruptionEX: step away from wubi. you get no advantage to a dualboot install but all the disadvanteges
[15:50] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: try ubuntu in virtualbox
[15:50] <CorruptionEX> ok, no wubi, got that much
[15:51] <k1l> !dualboot | CorruptionEX go with that
[15:51] <bibi23> each time I put an HDMI cable from my laptop to a TV the screen displaying works but I have to restart the computer so that the sound output from the TV gets detected and I can switch to it, is there a more simple way to "refresh" sound outputs?
[15:51] <CorruptionEX> with what? the duelboot link?
[15:51] <k1l> yes
[15:52] <Davidowski> can someone tell me why ubuntu frozes after I boot him from usb https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25404973/IMG_20121231_154120.jpg
[15:53] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | Davidowski
[15:53] <CorruptionEX> So. I am just making sure I have this all right....    Make a (small) partion just for Ubuntu, and install the full ubuntu there. Boot up UB, and find the e17 package, and install it.
[15:54] <Twisty> I'm trying to cut all but the last X number of lines from a log file in place. tail can't be used in place it seems, how else might I accomplish this?
[15:54] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: sure, but if you are not comfortable with partitioning try it in a vm first
[15:54] <CorruptionEX> How do I do that?
[15:54] <CorruptionEX> Can I keep it in a virtual machine?
[15:55] <k1l> CorruptionEX: yes, genereally. i wouldnt make it too small and a 3 partition setup would be better, but its ok if you want to test things
[15:55] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: download virtualbox
[15:55] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: you can do whatever you like with a vm
[15:55] <CorruptionEX> So after all this is done, how will startup be? Will it boot windows 8, or UB?
[15:56] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: if you do a vm you need to boot into windows and launch the vm from there
[15:56] <CorruptionEX> I want to ratain windows functionality, but use the E17 window manager
[15:56] <CorruptionEX> ok
[15:57] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: you won't be able to use enlightenment in windows
[15:57] <CorruptionEX> I mean running it through windows, through UB, through a vm
[15:57] <CorruptionEX> Thi is getting confusing o.O
[15:57] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: i don't think you understand
[15:58] <CorruptionEX> most likely not....
[15:58] <CorruptionEX> I have windows 8, I want E17
[15:58] <CorruptionEX> Thats all I came here with
[15:58] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: enlightenment is for linux, to use enlightenment you must use linux
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> But then I though, Ubuntu can run Linix stuff, and they have E17 for Ubuntu
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> *thought
[15:59] <Twisty> Ubuntu IS linux
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> Yes
[15:59] <rdw200169> Zhaboo: I've been a bit behind the power curve on new versions of Ubuntu; that said, i'm reasonably certain it still uses Nautilus as the File Manager (Mint probably does too) since it is the standard file manager for Gnome.  As such, what you're looking for is a Nautilus Extention. Examples: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-archiving.php
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> So, thats why I was thinking Wubi, So I can have windows AND Linix
[16:00] <CorruptionEX> but someone said to stay away from Wubi, and install UB
[16:00] <CorruptionEX> I mean, that was the goal
[16:00] <CorruptionEX> But I dont want UB totally, just for E17
[16:01] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: why?
[16:01] <nearst> happy new year!
[16:01] <SuGe2> happy new year
[16:01] <CorruptionEX> Why not use UB for everything?
[16:01] <CorruptionEX> Because I like windows
[16:01] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: why do you so badly want e17?
[16:01] <nearst> :)
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> Because.....well.......shiny....
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> lol
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> thats really the only reason
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> Why do you want cool flashy things?
[16:02] <nearst> CorruptionEX, try other distro. bodhi as well
[16:02] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: then live with the fact that you must be running linux to run e17
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> *sigh* yea, i was thinking that...........
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> I really want it though
[16:03] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: then use linux
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> And it just being possible bothers me
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> What's linix like
[16:03] <IdleOne> !ot | CorruptionEX
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> I mean, I saw pictures and have a general idea
[16:03] <bazhang> CorruptionEX, thats beyond the scope of this channel
[16:04] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: try it in a vm and see
[16:04] <nearst> ure big eyecandy dude
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> alright
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> thanks Think, sry for bothering you lol
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> Yes, I love Eye candy
[16:04] <bazhang> CorruptionEX, lets take the chit chat elsewhere
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> Eye candy is everything to me lol
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> yea, Im going
[16:05] <NickNamebu> с новым годом! :)
[16:05] <Topol> Russians itc
[16:05] <IdleOne> !ru
[16:06] <andrea_> how come that 12.10 does not offer VGA drivers support for old video cards? This is insane!!!
[16:06] <NickNamebu> thx!
[16:07] <bekks> andrea_: Depends on the age of the hardware. Latest kernel (3.8-rc1) does not offer support for i386 hardware. Thats the circle of life.
[16:08] <nearst> andrea_, what is your video cards ? lsmod | grep video
[16:09] <bekks> nearst: Which will most likely return nothing. "sudo lspci | grep VGA" is the better approach.
[16:10] <nearst> bekks, kk.. :D
[16:10] <bekks> andrea_: So which graphics hardware do you have?
[16:11] <bhavesh> I just created a new user on my Ubuntu server, but when I log in as that user and run sudo apt-get update, I get sudo: must be setuid to root
[16:11] <bhavesh> it means I must add the username to some file ?
[16:11] <bekks> bhavesh: So whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[16:11] <ThinkT510> bhavesh: did you put your new user in the sudo group?
[16:11] <bhavesh> bekks: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:11] <k1l> bhavesh: own server or hosted server?
[16:11] <bhavesh> ThinkT510: How do I do that?
[16:12] <bhavesh> k1l: hosted
[16:12] <ThinkT510> bhavesh: you'd need to do it from an account with sudo access
[16:13] <bhavesh> ThinkT510: I have access to root, ill follow this: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/quickly-add-users-to-groups-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ thank you everyone :)
[16:13] <k1l> we had a issue last weeks, where a hoster did deliver a wrecked image to the servers. there were many problems, like missing setuid bit on sudo etc
[16:13] <andrea_> nearst: i belive it's an ATI HD4000 but i've read that using an old nvidia or ati  AGP card will prevent you from using 3D acceleration.
[16:14] <superboot> Does anyone know of a FOSS internet-gateway solution?
[16:15] <RB2> Good Morning. When I'm using any app that doesn't specifically have Unity support (such as pidgin), closing the window instead of minimizing it makes the icon disappear, but it's still running in the background.
[16:15] <bhavesh> I did adduser my_username sudo and it added my_username to sudo, but still when I do sudo apt-get update from my_username it returns must be setuid to root, i should reboot?
[16:15] <RB2> Are there any workarounds for this?
[16:15] <k1l> bhavesh: make sure sudo got the stickybit
[16:16] <bhavesh> k1l: didn't get you
[16:16] <bekks> andrea_: So please check which hardware do you have. "sudo lspci | grep VGA"
[16:16] <bekks> superboot: What do you mean by "internet gateway solution"? Every router at home acts as a gateway :)
[16:18] <guest-wntF9K> I can't login to my user account... I am using ubuntu 12.10 anyone please help me out of this...
[16:19] <guest-wntF9K> I can't login to my user account... I am using ubuntu 12.10 anyone please help me out of this...
[16:19] <dakotawulfy> hi
[16:19] <guest-wntF9K> I can't login to my user account... I am using ubuntu 12.10 anyone please help me out of this...
[16:19] <bekks> !patience | guest-wntF9K
[16:19] <guest-wntF9K> ubottu sorry
[16:19] <k1l> bhavesh: make a "ls -al /usr/bin/sudo" please
[16:20] <guest-wntF9K> ubottu ok
[16:20] <nearst> hihi
[16:20] <sweet_kid> guest-wntF9K: but why?Do you know your root password?
[16:20] <guest-wntF9K> yes sweet_kid
[16:20] <bekks> !root | sweet_kid
[16:20] <guest-wntF9K> it is hanna
[16:20] <nearst> bfq any good ?
[16:20] <bekks> There is no root password...
[16:20] <nearst> become sudo fan :D
[16:21] <guest-wntF9K> the password is hanna
[16:21] <guest-wntF9K> user name is arabi
[16:21] <bhavesh> k1l: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 69708 Jun 1 2012 /usr/bin/sudo
[16:21] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Erm, do you know that you just told your password to about 1600 people?
[16:21] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Pretty silly idea to do so.
[16:21] <guest-wntF9K> bekks it is OK with me
[16:22] <k1l> bhavesh: do a "chmod 4111 /usr/bin/sudo"  from the root account
[16:22] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Well, then good luck.
[16:22] <guest-wntF9K> I am tired of solving this problem... but no result
[16:22] <guest-wntF9K> I can't unnistall and reinstall it
[16:22] <arshavin> nearly burnt my laptop charger cable.........quite relieved that it is still working,the plastic coating from one side is gone need to tape it before it snaps
[16:22] <sweet_kid> guest-wntF9K: how you're logging in?what message/error you're getting?
[16:22] <bhavesh> k1l: now works. Thank you :D
[16:23] <pngl> I can't connect using ssh on one of my remote accounts, but I can on the other. The client's public key is in both remote account's authorized_keys file. What could be happening?
[16:23] <harry_> Hello all. I used Code::Blocks to compile a Hello world program. it compiles and everything is ok but when i double click the "file" in the directory of the project it doesn't open. what can I do to get it displayed?
[16:23] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K there is a way to reset the password
[16:23] <k1l> bhavesh: like i said earlier. seems like the hoster got a wrecked image
[16:23] <guest-wntF9K> sweet_kid when i am login in I am getting a black screen for a while.. and then again return bakc to the login
[16:23] <bhavesh> k1l: okay.
[16:23] <superboot> bekks: internet gateway as in a controlled access pay-for-service solution. Such as used in hotels.
[16:23] <bhavesh> k1l: Its host1free
[16:23] <guest-wntF9K> it is not about password . I can login in using ctrl+alt+f1
[16:24] <guest-wntF9K> guest mode is work fine too
[16:24] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Then check wether your disk is full - and change your password, since 1600 other people know it.
[16:24] <sweet_kid> okay guest-wntF9K
[16:24] <sweet_kid> hehe
[16:25] <sweet_kid> yes bekks is right
[16:25] <guest-wntF9K> but user mode not working... even I tried with creating new used from terminal.. using adduser ... I can even login with the newly created user
[16:25] <sweet_kid> :D
[16:25] <dakotawulfy> maybe your usrer dir got locked and  need to go into it to unlock it
[16:25] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Did you read what I just told you?
[16:25] <guest-wntF9K> bekks .. YES
[16:26] <sweet_kid> guest-wntF9K: change your password asap
[16:26] <guest-wntF9K> I will consider It if I can login in again... other ways will try to buy a Mac :(
[16:26] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K see if u can go in to one of the other and open terminal see if u can get into that user
[16:26] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: You said you CAN login on ctrl+alt+f1 -- so do it.
[16:27] <tomka> hi
[16:27] <guest-wntF9K> i can login in using ctrl+alt+f1
[16:27] <ania_> happy new year
[16:27] <guest-wntF9K> ania_ happy new year
[16:27] <kamidi> guest-wntF9K: your problem does not seem to be with login. graphics drivers perhaps? broken lightdm? other graphic related problems? unity?
[16:28] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: So you do not have a login problem.
[16:28] <guest-wntF9K> how can I fix those problems...
[16:28] <kamidi> guest-wntF9K: what did you do before problem started?
[16:28] <guest-wntF9K> I have done alot of things from stackoverflow and askubuntu
[16:29] <guest-wntF9K> I have unity and gnome-fallback ...( because my laptop is little older .. so unity is slow in it)
[16:29] <pellejoku> so, trying to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-295.49.run, but the window that pops up is a white, blank window. Any ideas?
[16:29] <guest-wntF9K> It was running fine .. till morning..
[16:30] <guest-wntF9K> I have removed some panel and add some panels..nothing else did
[16:30] <Axio> Hi, I would like to make my computer automatically restart if a specific line appears in dmesg. Any simple way to do that?
[16:30] <kamidi> guest-wntF9K: and you can't login to neither gnome-fallback nor unity?
[16:30] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K check ti file under user .Xauthority
[16:31] <guest-wntF9K> kamidi ... I can't
[16:31] <guest-wntF9K> I reinstalled gnome-fallback
[16:31] <guest-wntF9K> still no change
[16:31] <dakotawulfy>  guest-wntF9K if permission got messed up on it that will cause a problem like yours
[16:31] <ahmed1> hello every one  i removed the kernel when i deleting nvidia driver "apt-get remove nvidia-*"   i booted  with previous kernel   problem now i can't update to download the last kernel  error is "some index files faild to download"
[16:32] <guest-wntF9K> is there anyway to restore ubuntu... because getting recovered it anyway is importent to me.. Otherways I would try a reinstall :(
[16:33] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K did u check that file
[16:33] <kamidi> dakotawulfy: he created another user in tty, but problem still persists
[16:33] <dakotawulfy>  that might be it
[16:33] <dakotawulfy> onlu on his main user
[16:33] <dakotawulfy>  thay all have their own file
[16:34] <guest-wntF9K> it is blank dakotawulfy
[16:34] <dakotawulfy> will be
[16:34] <dakotawulfy> see who own it
[16:35] <guest-wntF9K> I have tried nano .Xathority
[16:35] <dakotawulfy> ok
[16:35] <guest-wntF9K> how can I know the owner?
[16:35] <dakotawulfy>  just seen that happen before
[16:35] <donavan01> need some help with DVD play back tried playing a dvd today and it yelled about the disc being encrypted and me needing to install something ... how do I make ubuntu do dvd playback
[16:35] <Santana> ciao
[16:35] <Santana> !list
[16:36] <guest-wntF9K> dakotawulfy how can I know owner?
[16:36] <quitte> donavan01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[16:36] <quitte> donavan01: 5 seconds with google
[16:36] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K right click on it go to properties
[16:37] <dakotawulfy>  then permissions
[16:37] <guest-wntF9K> I can't right click .. i am usinng ctrl+alt+f1
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !dvd | donavan01 1.5 seconds with ubottu ;)
[16:38] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: ls -lha ~
[16:38] <donavan01> Thanks guys I just couldnt remember what I was looking for I did this years ago on an older machine but I didnt know I was looking for the restricted format stuff
[16:38] <IdleOne> No need for condescension, not everybody has the google fu and not everybody knows all the bot triggers.
[16:38] <guest-wntF9K> bekks thanks
[16:38] <guest-wntF9K> dakotawulfy arabi owns it .. thats is me
[16:39] <thepreacher> if i create a /home partition and do not format it during installation of ubuntu or any linux distro for that matter, as long as i create the same user, with the same username, will the installation seamlessly use the existing home folder. Its just that I'll really like to minimise the volume of transfers I need to perform after every fresh install
[16:39] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K ok
[16:39] <dakotawulfy>  just wanted u to check
[16:39] <dakotawulfy>  make sure that was not it
[16:39] <quitte> IdleOne: true. thanks for reminding me times have changed.
[16:40] <ahmed1> hello every one  i removed the kernel when i deleting nvidia driver "apt-get remove nvidia-*"   i booted  with previous kernel   problem now i can't update to download the last kernel  error is "some index files faild to download"
[16:40] <IdleOne> thepreacher: yes, you may find some user .config anomalies from one distro to another, but should be easy to fix.
[16:40] <guest-wntF9K> dakotawulfy is there anyway?
[16:40] <dakotawulfy> well u said u could log in with another user???
[16:41] <guest-wntF9K> only as guest .....
[16:41] <dakotawulfy> well try that
[16:41] <guest-wntF9K> right now I am in guest mode
[16:41] <dakotawulfy>  the n go to the add user or groups
[16:41] <bekks> ahmed1: Thats just a warning, no error.
[16:41] <guest-wntF9K> thats is why I am guest herre
[16:41] <dakotawulfy> see if u see your user
[16:42] <guest-wntF9K> I can see my user in user account dakotawulfy
[16:42] <dakotawulfy> and see if it will let u use that pasword to change it your user one
[16:43] <thepreacher> IdleOne: Thanks. That is a huge relive. I used to enjoy tinkering with my system a lot but I don't find it as much fun anymore. I'll rather install and with the minimum of fuss get on with my development :)
[16:43] <guest-wntF9K> I have changed the password , bekks, dakotawulfy
[16:44] <dakotawulfy> see if it works now
[16:44] <ahmed1> bekks how to fix it
[16:44] <guest-wntF9K> lemme check .. I will be another guest when I login in
[16:44] <guest-wntF9K> because guest name always change
[16:44] <guest-wntF9K> bye for now lemme check it working
[16:45] <dakotawulfy> ok
[16:45] <bekks> ahmed1: Just wait until the server provides the index files again.
[16:46] <ahmed1> mmmm
[16:46] <ahmed1> beeks my computer not working fine
[16:46] <guest-94oUZ0> dakotawulfy ... still no use.. not working
[16:47] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: Then check wether your disk is full.
[16:47] <guest-94oUZ0> it is not full
[16:47] <guest-94oUZ0> 85 GB of free space
[16:47] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: In your home directory?
[16:47] <guest-94oUZ0> yes 85GB free
[16:48] <humbolt> is there a way to turn off, that the file menu line appears in the top bar in unity. I am using focus follows mouse and it is simply unusable with the menu disappearing, when I move over another window.
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> humbolt  that's calles globalmenu, you can easily delete/disable it
[16:49] <guest-94oUZ0> wat a new year this is :(
[16:49] <humbolt> MonkeyDust: how?
[16:49] <shwouchk_> hello
[16:49] <dakotawulfy>  guest-94oUZ0 well can u use sudo under guest
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> humbolt  http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu
[16:50] <guest-94oUZ0> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[16:50] <guest-94oUZ0> dakotawulfy
[16:50] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: Whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[16:51] <MoL0ToV> hi
[16:51] <shwouchk__> Hello
[16:51] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks lsb_release -sd , right?
[16:51] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: Yes.
[16:51] <guest-94oUZ0> ubuntu 12.10
[16:51] <guest-94oUZ0> Ubuntu 12.10
[16:52] <guest-94oUZ0> is it a strange problem? :(
[16:52] <shwouchk__> I have an intel centrino 2230 BGN wifi card, but for some reason I can only see B/G networks. Using 12.10. Help?
[16:52] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: And the output of "ls -lha /usr/bin/sudo"?
[16:52] <guest-94oUZ0> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 113K Jul 16 17:43 /usr/bin/sudo
[16:52] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks
[16:53] <dakotawulfy> shwouchk sound like it could be a resolveconf problem
[16:53] <dakotawulfy> shwouchk__: did u do and upgrade
[16:53] <shwouchk__> dakotawulfy: no, installed 12.10.
[16:53] <dakotawulfy> well wait a min
[16:54] <shwouchk__> dakotawulfy: what does it have to do with resolveconf? itsn't it responsible just for DNS?
[16:55] <dakotawulfy> well wen u do an upgrade it will not work right has a problem with that
[16:55] <dakotawulfy> or use to
[16:55] <dakotawulfy> not sure now hold on
[16:55] <shwouchk__> dakotawulfy: yes, but its responsible for DNS, whereas I have a problem with wifi
[16:55] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: Provide a pastebin of "df -h" please.
[16:56] <linuxthefish> how can i get a list of installed packages sorted by size?
[16:56] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks just a sec done
[16:56] <dakotawulfy> shwouchk  check this out try it see if it works http://askubuntu.com/questions/201603/how-do-i-edit-my-resolv-conf-file
[16:56] <dakotawulfy>  most it could do is not work
[16:56] <shwouchk__> dakotawulfy: I refuse to try anythin unrelated directly to wifi
[16:57] <shwouchk__> dakotawulfy: thanks for your help
[16:57] <humbolt> how can I show all apps currently open in unity
[16:57] <dakotawulfy> ) shwouchk
[16:57] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks http://pastie.org/5602774
[16:57] <dakotawulfy>  wait might not be right ther is another one
[16:57] <bekks> dakotawulfy: He's right. He does not have a DNS problem. :)
[16:57] <dakotawulfy>  hold  on
[16:58] <gyre007> I'm invetigating one of the most bizzare things Ive ever seem....every 2 hours one of our servers spikes up the load_avg...then its another and then another....this is happening with regularity...i've no idea what it could be causing it....
[16:58] <gyre007> iowait is very small
[16:58] <Bombo> # modprobe nvidia
[16:58] <Bombo> FATAL: Module nvidia_current_updates not found.
[16:58] <gyre007> only load spikes up like hell
[16:58] <Bombo> should that work?
[16:58] <gyre007> also CPU usage is very small...
[16:58] <bekks> gyre007: Check cpu usage and I/O using vmstat and sar
[16:59] <jhutchins_wk> shwouchk__: It's not a centrino.  A centrino is a CPU, not a wifi chipset.
[16:59] <Bombo> what do i need to get nvidia drivers? i did apt-get install nvidia-current(-updates)
[16:59] <gyre007> bekks: IO is ok....cpu usage too...
[16:59] <gyre007> i can send graphite graphs...its really weird
[16:59] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks hope you see that
[16:59] <shwouchk__> jhutchins_wk 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4)
[17:00] <bekks> gyre007: Basically, load just means nothing on a linux/unix system. More important things are cpu usage, memory usage, swap and I/O.
[17:00] <jhutchins_wk> shwouchk__: If you figure out the actual wifi chipset you may be able to find an n driver for it.
[17:00] <shwouchk__> jhutchins_wk: I stated it twice. Once in the question and once just now. You are wrong. Thanks for your help.
[17:00] <jhutchins_wk> shwouchk__: lspci -nn will give you the hex code identifier.
[17:01] <Bombo> xorg.log: NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[17:01] <Bombo> isn't that in nvidia-current?
[17:01]  * jhutchins_wk wonders why shwouchk__ appears to be asking for help when he already knows all the answers.
[17:01] <guest-94oUZ0> hello ubottu
[17:01] <shwouchk__> jhutchins_wk: I don't know the answer, but I can certainly know what is not an answer.
[17:02] <bekks> shwouchk__: Well, you are wrong. There is no "Centrino wifi chipset". Please just listen to what people say to help you.
[17:02] <bekks> shwouchk__: Obviously, you dont know your wifi chipset.
[17:02] <Androidphone> hi
[17:02] <Androidphone> hello
[17:03] <shwouchk__> bekks: it is Intel centrino N 2230. I can even show you an official page on ubuntu.com stating so. Thank you also. Next
[17:03] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks is there anyway to access user directory from guest session?
[17:03] <Androidphone> !ubottu
[17:03] <dakotawulfy> shwouchk
[17:03] <bekks> shwouchk__: Ok, good luck then, if you know it better than the ones having a working intel wifi chipset. Next.
[17:03] <lickalott> mornin All!
[17:03] <dakotawulfy>  check this page
[17:03] <lickalott> have an issue that i don't know how to correct.
[17:04] <dakotawulfy> shwouchk  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073251
[17:04] <TheLordOfTime> lickalott, details please.
[17:04] <lickalott> I'm ssh'd into my server from work.  On my server
[17:04] <TheLordOfTime> otherwise nobody can assist you.
[17:04] <lickalott> working on it
[17:04] <lickalott> sorry
[17:04] <dakotawulfy> that the site i wanted
[17:04] <saurav_> how i install network simulator ns2 in my ubuntu 9.10
[17:05] <bekks> saurav_: Ubuntu 9.10 isnt supported anymore, it is EOL.
[17:05] <dakotawulfy> shwouchk go to #7
[17:05] <bekks> !eol | saurav_
[17:05] <guest-94oUZ0> saurav_ try 12.10
[17:05] <shwouchk__> dakotawulfy: THIS IS NOT THE GODDAMN PROBLEM I AM HAVING!
[17:05] <lickalott> on my server i'm sitting in /media/folder1.  This is a mount from a hard drive.  I am done doing what I want to do with the drive and want to format it.  But... because my local user is sitting in the location I can't fdisk the drive (via ssh) beacuse it is "being used"
[17:06] <lickalott> is there a way to force the umount?
[17:06] <bekks> saurav_: Currently supported releases are 10.04, 11.10, 12.04 and 12.10
[17:06] <lickalott> or force the "other me" to log out
[17:06] <bekks> lickalott: umount -f
[17:06] <guest-94oUZ0> today I memorized name bakotawulfy :D
[17:06] <bekks> shwouchk__: Watch your language please. Thank you.
[17:06] <guest-94oUZ0> sorry dakotawulfy
[17:06] <mew> ji
[17:07] <lickalott> bekks - umount2: Device or resource busy
[17:07] <lickalott> umount: /media/tmp: device is busy.
[17:07] <lickalott>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[17:07] <lickalott>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[17:07] <lickalott> umount2: Device or resource busy
[17:07] <FloodBot1> lickalott: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <mew> can any one help
[17:07] <bekks> lickalott: Whats "umount2"? Never heard of it.
[17:07] <lickalott> thats with the umount -f
[17:07] <lickalott> idk
[17:07] <mew> nice chatting on android pbonee
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> mew  start with a question
[17:07] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk_ be calm.. I was like you just an hour before..
[17:07] <shwouchk__> bekks: and just FYI: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:8086:0887-WIRELESS/
[17:08] <shwouchk__> bekks: now tell me I don't know the chipset I have
[17:08] <mew> well can I install ubuntu in my phone
[17:08] <bekks> shwouchk__: I am not interested anymore in solving your problem, since you know it better and you still keep asking.
[17:08] <saurav_> how i upgrade 9.10 to 12.04 plz give the proper command for it
[17:08] <lickalott> bekks - http://pastebin.com/nkmywNk1
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> shwouchk__  make sure you don't reject and refuse every and any advice you're getting here
[17:09] <bekks> saurav_: Update to 10.04 and then to 12.04
[17:09] <mew> exec -o inxi -N
[17:09] <bekks> lickalott: Just kill the other session :)
[17:09] <mew> ?
[17:09] <mew> Hello
[17:09] <guest-94oUZ0> MonkeyDust I am ready to accept all the adivices and try it out ... please help me if you can
[17:09] <guest-94oUZ0> :(
[17:09] <lickalott> is that easily googled bekks?
[17:10] <shwouchk__> MonkeyDust: so far the advice 1. fix your dns (what does dns have to do with the problem?) and 2. you don't really know what card you have (really? Then what is that page I just pasted stating this specific card is certified?)
[17:10] <dakotawulfy> well cya for now
[17:10] <shwouchk__> MonkeyDust: the moment I get real advice, I will know it.
[17:10] <mew> ((/
[17:10] <bekks> lickalott: Take a look at "ps -aux | grep weed" and kill the other session using "kill"
[17:10] <lickalott> saurav_ ----> http://bit.ly/YGuCDc
[17:10] <guest-94oUZ0> dakotawulfy... thaks for your time.. Happy New Year
[17:10] <mew> googlr is the best oprione
[17:11] <mew> new year
[17:11] <mew> bots too
[17:11] <mew> lol
[17:11] <mew> sorry @ Oo
[17:12] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks .. please see this http://pastie.org/5602774
[17:12] <shwouchk__> MonkeyDust: or do you think I got real advice so far?
[17:12]  * lickalott apologizes to saurav_ and DJones
[17:14] <lickalott> bekks i'm/he's not there
[17:14] <ThinkT510> shwouchk_: what is the problem?
[17:14] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk__ : here all are very helpful... some problems may be hard to solve.. so we help each other to solve it out.. first have faith in your brothers here.. keep an open mind .. as we believe in open source... have a great time bro.. thank you
[17:15] <lickalott> i have a user on tty1 and pts/0  both of the returns from the ps -aux kill the ssh sessions on pts/0
[17:15] <guest-94oUZ0> ThinkT510 welcome back... I am still here with my problem :)
[17:15] <shwouchk_> ThinkT510: I have an intel 2230 card. It is an 802.11n card. I can see only B/G networks with it.
[17:15] <ThinkT510> guest-94oUZ0: you could have reinstalled by this time
[17:16] <ThinkT510> shwouchk_: oh, sorry i can't help
[17:16] <guest-94oUZ0> I can't do it boss.. :( it  very importent to recover it anyway :( Think510
[17:16] <shwouchk_> ThinkT510: thanks anyway!
[17:16] <ThinkT510> guest-94oUZ0: use a livecd and backup what you need
[17:17] <guest-94oUZ0> I need the envirounemt setup there
[17:17] <novaspirit> i have a question about memtester. when i run the program memtester 1000m then echo$? i get 137 and not 0. does this mean my memory has a problem?
[17:18] <guest-94oUZ0> Ruby on Rails, and other stuff.. can I take backup of that ... Think510
[17:18] <ThinkT510> guest-94oUZ0: i mean backup your personal files, you can always reinstall software
[17:18] <guest-94oUZ0> It takes me hours of work to setup my workmachine... now I can't login in :( very sad
[17:19] <iceroot> novaspirit: what does the manpage tells about that returncode?
[17:19] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: what problem are you having?
[17:19] <ThinkT510> guest-94oUZ0: what did you do last before you couldn't log in?
[17:19] <guest-94oUZ0> I can't login in to my account shwouchk_
[17:19] <guest-94oUZ0> Think510 i just logged out...
[17:19] <rdw200169> novaspirit: yup, the manpage explains the error code
[17:19] <novaspirit> iceroot, duh lol i didn't check that yet
[17:20] <guest-94oUZ0> before that I removed a gnome panel
[17:20] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: do you own the computer? Is the drive encrypted? do you have physical access to the computer? can you get a livecd?
[17:20] <lickalott> heh... found it
[17:20] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk_ I can login in using ctrl+alt+f1
[17:20] <lickalott> bekks for future reference - pkill -KILL -u “username”
[17:20] <novaspirit> iceroot, nope noo good. says x01 x02 x03 but i get 137
[17:20] <lickalott> thanks for the lead though!
[17:21] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: ah, so you just can't login to the GUI environment?
[17:21] <guest-94oUZ0> yes that is
[17:21] <ztgu> I have problems with the resume from suspend to ram. can anyone help me?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> shwouchk_  centrino is product name from intel, so the people here were right
[17:21] <Guest1422> ztgu no
[17:21] <wookey> I just tried to update to quantal (apt-get dist-upgrade) and it's got stuck with:
[17:21] <wookey> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-gnome_1%3a0.9.8.6-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/gconf/schemas/compiz-crashhandler.schemas', which is also in package compiz-plugins-extra 0.9.7.0~bzr9-0ubuntu6
[17:21] <guest-94oUZ0> is there anyway to fix this shwouchk_
[17:22] <wookey> I don;t see a bugrep for this -anyone got any bright ideas how to fix it?
[17:22] <ThinkT510> wookey: dist-upgrade doesn't move you to the next release
[17:22] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | wookey
[17:22] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: do you see the login screen? what happens when you try to login? Do you mind creating a new user on the machine?
[17:22] <nelson8874> hello
[17:22] <shwouchk_> MonkeyDust: in what way were they right?
[17:22] <iceroot> novaspirit: i am sorry cant find any reference to that retuncode at the moment :(
[17:22] <dufa> nelson8874: hello
[17:23] <novaspirit> is there other mem testers that run in console?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> shwouchk_  when they were giving advice on centrino http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11333727 <- not exactly what you have, but may help
[17:23] <guest-94oUZ0> I can see the login screen... when I try to login.. I am getting a blank screen.. and then return back to login screen again.. I have tried creating new user.. still the same problem .. shwouchk_
[17:23] <iceroot> novaspirit: i would suggest memtest from a live-cd
[17:24] <novaspirit> iceroot, can't run live-cd this is from a asus-transformer
[17:24] <nelson8874> I'm trying to rip a dvd audio. I want to rip the 5.1 audio in separate channels. So, a mp3 from the central, an mp3 from the front left, and so on... Can someone help?
[17:24] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk_ but guest session works fine
[17:24] <guest-94oUZ0> have you heard of this kind of problem?
[17:24] <wookey> !upgrade as in 'update-manager'?
[17:25] <aaaa> hi
[17:25] <guest-94oUZ0> ubottu  how are you?
[17:25] <aaaa> i want to a standerd user be able to shutdown using gshutdown
[17:25] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: haven't heard. Can you create a completely new user on the shell?
[17:25] <wookey> I avoided update-manager because it doesn't get on with local ubuntu mirror config and removes all 3rd party sources, including the main mirror, so then has no sources so then does nothing
[17:25] <Ycarene> How do I revert from wine 1.5.20 to 1.5.19?
[17:26] <guest-94oUZ0> i have tried adduser command? is that you menat shwouhk_
[17:26] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchl_
[17:26] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk_ your name is hard to type :P
[17:26] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: sorry :)
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> guest-94oUZ0  type sh [tab]
[17:26] <aaaa> :)
[17:26] <ztgu> Why is my swap partition not being used?
[17:26] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: try with useradd
[17:26] <bekks> guest-94oUZ0: type shwo and press the tab key :)
[17:27] <novaspirit> iceroot, i managed to make a program to flash the transformer with dual boot android and lubuntu. i compiled my own kernel and modifed the lubuntu image to work. but now i get random freezes. leads me to think it's memory addressing from kernel.
[17:27] <bekks> ztgu: How did you check?
[17:27] <guest-94oUZ0> bekks thanks
[17:27] <guest-94oUZ0> :)
[17:27] <ztgu> bekks: free -m
[17:27] <nelson8874> I'm trying to rip a dvd audio. I want to rip the 5.1 audio in separate channels. So, a mp3 from the central, an mp3 from the front left, and so on... Can someone help?
[17:27] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk_,  I have tried that , not working .. same problem
[17:27] <bekks> ztgu: And what exactly do yo see?
[17:27] <guest-94oUZ0> MonkeyDust, thanks
[17:27] <Wulfe> I am having problems with "apt-get install -f" it is preventing me from being able to even upgrade.  ( http://pastebin.com/XQu2uBs0 )
[17:27] <ztgu> bekks: Swap:        16362          0      16362
[17:28] <ztgu> the one with 0 is "used"
[17:28] <Wulfe> if anyone has a solution to this i would appreciate it.
[17:28] <bekks> ztgu: ztgu You have 16G of swap, and currently no process is using it. Be happy, swapping will slow down your system.
[17:28] <shwouchk_> MonkeyDust: First, thanks for the link. Second, I never saw this link before. One person gave me a link on DNS troubleshooting and the other two persons claims that centrino 2230 is *not* a name of a chipset, in contrast to the truth and to what you and I are saying.
[17:28] <nelson8874> hi dooglus
[17:28] <aaaa> i want gshutdown to work  in standerd user account how ?
[17:28] <guest-94oUZ0> shwouchk_, is there anyway?
[17:28] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: are you using regular ubuntu or some other kind? what version?
[17:29] <guest-94oUZ0> I am using Ubuntu 12.10
[17:29] <ztgu> bekks: I am going to use it for suspend to ram. I don't know if it's neccesarry though? having problem with screen off after suspend to ram
[17:29] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: have you tried sudo apt-get autoremove?
[17:29] <Wulfe> yes
[17:29] <guest-94oUZ0> with gnome-fallback as mine is older system
[17:29] <Wulfe> doesnt help
[17:29] <Wulfe> i even cleared the cache and tried installing the debs manualy using dpkg
[17:30] <guest-94oUZ0> ubottu
[17:30] <emr> How i can say iptables -A INPUT ! -s 127.0.0.1,127.0.0.2,100.100.100.100  -p tcp --dport 80 -j DROP (i mean multiple ips)
[17:30] <Wulfe> this isue has been eating at me for a few months now and i am at a loss.
[17:30] <bekks> ztgu: You need swap (as bug as your RAM) for being able to suspend2disk.
[17:30] <TheLordOfTime> emr, are you trying to do a "NOT [theseips]" rule?
[17:31] <Wulfe> i am almost afraid i am going to have to wipe and reinstall the os.
[17:31] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: are you using ppas?
[17:31] <Wulfe> ppas?
[17:31] <shwouchk_> guest-94oUZ0: can you try using unity?
[17:31] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: software from outside the default repos
[17:31] <aaaa> sudo isn't working for gshutdown under stander user
[17:31] <Wulfe> nope
[17:31] <aaaa> how can i make it shut down?
[17:32] <bekks> aaaa: Because for graohical applications, you have to use gksu
[17:32] <Wulfe> everything i have has been from ubuntu repos only
[17:32] <guest-94oUZ0> both have same problem shwouchk_
[17:32] <aaaa> tried it   it's not accepting the password
[17:32] <ztgu> bekks: suspend2ram
[17:32] <bekks> aaaa: Then you have no permissions to sudo
[17:33] <bekks> ztgu: You dont need swap for suspend2ram.
[17:33] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: have you been pinning packages?
[17:33] <aaaa> i want gshutdown to shutdown the computer under standerd user :)
[17:33] <Wulfe> not sure what pinning is so i can assume i have not.
[17:33] <aaaa> without giving the user a full sudo premission
[17:33] <ThinkT510> !pinning | Wulfe
[17:33] <Wulfe> ah
[17:33] <Wulfe> nope
[17:33] <bekks> aaaa: You have to add a specific line in the /etc/sudoers then.
[17:34] <ztgu> bekks: I don't? why do I have problems with suspend to ram ? idea?
[17:34] <Wulfe> i have not set any priorities on any packages
[17:34] <aaaa> what is it ?
[17:34] <bekks> !sudo | aaaa
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: when was the last time you updated?
[17:34] <aaaa> it will give the standerd user a sudo premission to all programs
[17:34] <Wulfe> well this all happened when i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 couple days after it came out.
[17:35] <aaaa> i want him be able to just use gshutdown
[17:35] <Wulfe> i hve been fighting it to fully upgrade since
[17:35] <Wulfe> but its just been one problem after the next
[17:35] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:35] <bekks> aaaa: Then read the articles you've been given. You can finetune the sudo behaviour, and allow only specific commands to an user.
[17:35] <Wulfe> as you can see i still have 210 packages to still upgrade
[17:36] <Wulfe> i do that but it wont let me upgrade now because of unity-common not installing
[17:36] <aaaa> ok thanks :)
[17:36] <Wulfe> it complains about the dependancy issue
[17:36] <ThinkT510> Wulfe: i've always fresh installed with new releases, much less can go wrong
[17:36] <Wulfe> and then tells me to install -f
[17:36] <Wulfe> yeh i was afraid i was gonna have to reinstll.
[17:36] <Wulfe> just sucks i didnt want to lose settings and apps.
[17:37] <Muphrid> Wulfe: dpkg-reconfigure -a is of any help?
[17:37] <Wulfe> nope tried that to
[17:37] <Wulfe> it failed me as well.
[17:39] <shwouchk_> MonkeyDust: Anyway, I tried adding the option to modprobe and it didn't help
[17:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. I'm trying to package some app, but it seems the Makefile receives a blank DESTDIR. Any idea why?
[17:45] <seednode> Perhaps the maintainer just made the makefile improperly?
[17:46] <Eduard_Munteanu> seednode: actually, I wrote the makefile, it's a Python app with just a setup.py
[17:46] <seednode> Hm...
[17:46] <Eduard_Munteanu> Let me try starting over again.
[17:47] <p0rk> I just installed python-software-properties and i still dont have apt-add-repository... wth?
[17:47] <ThinkT510> p0rk: its add-apt-repository
[17:48] <p0rk> thays what i meant
[17:48] <p0rk> but its still not there
[17:48] <ThinkT510> p0rk: should be there in a default install
[17:49] <fabio> Alguém de Salvador?
[17:49] <p0rk> its a brand new install
[17:49] <p0rk> 12.10
[17:50] <ThinkT510> p0rk: what is the command you are running and what is the output?
[17:50] <p0rk> ThinkT510, command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !pt| fabio
[17:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> seednode: nah, same issue
[17:50] <p0rk> output: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[17:51] <bruno_> Alguém sabe como consertar o google earth no ubuntu 12.10?
[17:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> I tried echo-ing it from the makefile, it's blank
[17:51] <bruno_> alguém sabe consertar o google earth, porque a terra está invisível
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> !pt| bruno_
[17:52] <shwouchk_> MonkeyDust: Any other thoughts?
[17:53] <ThinkT510> p0rk: does the terminal let you auto-complete add-apt-repository?
[17:53] <bruno_> Anyone know how to fix google earth on ubuntu 12.10?
[17:53] <p0rk> no
[17:53] <shruthi> Ubuntu 12.10  64bit cannot move buttons to right
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> shwouchk_  unfortunately, i'm not familiar enough with wifi myself, it looks like you're of luck
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> out of luck*
[17:54] <shruthi> Ubuntu 12.10  64bit cannot move buttons to right
[17:54] <ThinkT510> p0rk: most strange, have you checked your path?
[17:54] <shruthi> Ubuntu 12.10  64bit cannot move buttons to right
[17:54] <shruthi> HELP Ubuntu 12.10  64bit cannot move buttons to right
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> shruthi, no need to repeat yourself
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> !repeat | shruthi
[17:54] <p0rk> ThinkT510, just figured it out. i installed python-software-properties
[17:55] <shruthi> ok
[17:55] <ThinkT510> !controls | shruthi
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> shruthi, have patience :)
[17:55] <p0rk> looks like it needs python3-software-properites
[17:55] <bruno_> the earth is invisible on google earth, does anyone know fix?
[17:55] <p0rk> which i got by installing software-properties-common
[17:55] <ThinkT510> !yay | p0rk
[17:55] <p0rk> lol
[17:55] <p0rk> thanks
[17:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> seednode: hm, it seems it's caused by commiting the Makefile into the repo, any clue why?
[17:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> If I don't bzr commit, it works.
[17:58] <never2far> in ubuntu i see that /sbin/poweroff is a symbolic link to reboot ...can someone explain why poweroff does actually power off the machine and reboot just restards ..?
[17:58] <never2far> *restarts
[17:59] <ixio_> how do I count the files in a directory ?
[17:59] <peterrooney> never2far: many binaries have different actions depending on the name used to call them.  I blame UNIX hardlinks
[17:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> never2far: it looks at the name it's called at
[17:59] <ixio_> and dont say 1,2,3,4 ...
[17:59] <never2far> can some of you can point me to a documentation to this ?
[18:00] <never2far> i'd like to better understand this
[18:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> never2far: they just check argv[0]
[18:00] <peterrooney> never2far: it's in the binary's code.
[18:01] <Jisawesome2> Can someone help me with installing a wireless-card driver?
[18:01] <never2far> Peterman & Eduard_Munteanu  thank you
[18:02] <shwouchk_> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:03] <never2far> why reboot does't have in the manual this oO ? i'll search on the internet
[18:05] <arabi> ThinkT510,
[18:05] <ThinkT510> arabi: hi
[18:06] <arabi> ThinkT510,  i am that guest who can't login ... i fixed it by removing lightdm
[18:06] <arabi> :)
[18:06] <arabi> thank you for your time
[18:06] <ThinkT510> yay
[18:07] <arabi> no I am going to install it again... lemme see what happen
[18:07] <arabi> arabi is my official name anyway :) c yaa
[18:07] <arabi> bekks, thank you too
[18:08] <arabi> happy new year  :)
[18:08] <shinobi420> greetings #ubuntu
[18:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi.
[18:10] <souliaq> someone know the app launcher kupfer?
[18:10] <nelson8874> I'm trying to rip a dvd audio. I want to rip the 5.1 audio in separate channels. So, a mp3 from the central, an mp3 from the front left, and so on... Can someone help?
[18:11] <ixio_> stand really close to the corner with a microphone
[18:12] <KI4RO> LOL @ ixio
[18:13] <daftykins> nelson8874: ignoring the legal implications, why would you possibly do that?
 in windows you can find tools for that, why not in Linux?
[18:14] <daftykins> souliaq: why are you asking me that?
[18:14] <Apteryx> Hello! Does anyone have both an Android USB mass storage phone and a LiveUSB?
[18:14] <daftykins> Apteryx: yep
[18:14] <Apteryx> I'd like if you could test this setup, as it does not work for me!
[18:14] <Apteryx> No USB connection is seen from Android when plugged to ubuntu LiveUSB
[18:15] <daftykins> are you sure you're not using a more modern MTP phone?
[18:15] <Apteryx> im sure, it's an old Nexus S with separated user data partition
[18:15] <nelson8874> daftykins: Just for the fun. When i was using windows i had a program that would do that. Then i took the front audio, that is maynly vocals, and joined it with some instrumental that i would have and joined the two audios. I made some cool things with the doors dvd audios, joining it with an piano solo songs...
[18:15] <Apteryx> works generally without fuss in both Windows and Ubuntu (installed version, not live)
[18:16] <daftykins> nelson8874: i'd be surprised if ffmpeg can't take each channel from an ac3 stream
[18:16] <daftykins> Apteryx: hrmm i only have 10.4.4 on my flash drive
[18:17] <daftykins> Apteryx: have you watched kernel messages and probed USB after plugging in the phone to see if it's even 'seen' ?
[18:17] <nelson8874> I was searching if audacity would do something like that....
[18:17] <nelson8874> daftykins, I was searching if audacity would do something like that....
[18:18] <daftykins> *Shrug* not a clue
[18:18] <arabi> ThinkT510,
[18:18] <arabi> now it is working fine ...
[18:18] <ThinkT510> good
[18:18] <arabi> but I accidently deleted topright gnome panel
[18:18] <arabi> bfore
[18:18] <fabio> quit
[18:18] <fabio> exit
[18:18] <arabi> with Shutdown . Rythmbox and all .. how can I get is back ...
[18:19] <arabi> anyone help
[18:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, py2dsc is pretty cool, saved me a lot of pain.
[18:20] <daftykins> arabi: unity?
[18:20] <arabi> i am using gnome-fallback... my system is old .. can't run unity smooth
[18:21] <trendynick> need some help with amttool & any irc bouncer http://pastebin.com/GYnQwMgk for more info
[18:21] <arabi> daftykins, any idea?
[18:21] <daftykins> arabi: i see. you might be able to just delete the gnome config in your /home then? well, try renaming it and logging out + in
[18:22] <arabi> daftykins, is it .gconfig???
[18:23] <daftykins> i'd only be guessing with the newer ubuntus
[18:23] <arabi> I am using 12.10 daftykins
[18:23] <trendynick> arabi: or see if you have some python script that should have closed as I can get unity dissapear when it happens and I run a i5 2400 with 16GB of ram
[18:23] <Apteryx> daftykins: yeah, nothing happens in dmesg
[18:24] <Apteryx> when I plug the phone by usb cable into the computer
[18:24] <arabi> trendynick, i can't understand what you said?
[18:25] <arabi> can I get unity as fast as gnome-fallback in my older system??
[18:25] <Apteryx> I'm using 12.10 but I don't think it matters. Maybe the fact that the media _is_ USB means it monopolizes some USB feature that cannot be used for something else like mounting an Android phone?
[18:26] <Apteryx> I mean ressource, not feature
[18:26] <nownot> I'm having issues with my network card, I have 75mb down but my card will start of doing around 40mb and just go slower and slower. ideas/
[18:26] <trendynick> when I have some python script locking in something Unity (top bar + list of pinned and opened apps) disappear until I close it, the python script usually spawns something that has some problem
[18:29] <shinobi420> I installed ubunut 12.10 to an older sony notebook. I had problems with lightdm not showing up because of a problem with opengl. I installed gdm and got a workable GUI, but now my wireless connection keeps asking for authentication,  even though I know for sure the key I am entering is the correct one
[18:30] <shinobi420> permissions?
[18:30] <shinobi420> I installed gdm from the terminal within the same install, so I know the connectivity problem is a bad config or something like
[18:33] <qr> when I plug my tablet into USB it's detected as a camera and shows up in my file explorer as gphoto2://[usb:002,008]/ ... many of the folders I know to be present do not show up in this view ... how do I make ubuntu treat it like an ordinary flash drive?
 that is often an option on the device in question itself. I know my own camera has two modes which ared selected from the camera
[18:34] <qr> shinobi420: I have 2 options on the device, treat as camera or use mtp, with mtp it is not detected at all
[18:35] <qr> on windows selecting treat as camera gives me an ordinary filesystem view
 are you using nautilus to browse the device?
[18:35] <qr> yes
 Does your camera use an sd card?
[18:36] <qr> it has its own internal storage
[18:36] <qr> I'm trying to access that
[18:36] <shinobi420> ^_^
[18:36] <shinobi420> kk
[18:36] <shinobi420> camera model  >?
[18:36] <qr> it's a tablet
[18:36] <qr> ASUS transformer
[18:37] <shinobi420> niice :)
[18:37] <qr> TF300T
[18:37] <qr> indeed :D
[18:37] <Apteryx> Sorry to ask again, but has anyone here tried accessing an Android device (mass storage usb class) from a LiveCD of Ubuntu? Doesn't work for me (USB link not detected)
[18:38] <DJones> qr: I had a transformer prime for a while and had trouble accessing the storage space, I think I had to use the app gMTP to get any sort of access
 you might use wine
[18:38] <shinobi420> until a proper fix is found
[18:39] <shinobi420> I am reading something now
[18:39] <qr> oo I think I just got it working with mtp actually
[18:39] <Apteryx> ok, but this is MTP device,that's why.  Mine should work like an USB key (it's mass storage USB compatible)
[18:39] <shinobi420> :D
[18:39] <Dragon64> hello all, is there way to change the notifications in Ubuntu 12.10 to be more like the interactive notifucations in Gnome 3.6? (without installing gnome?
[18:39] <qr> ahh yes there we go
[18:39] <DJones> qr: You may find it better to use the android app airdroid on the tablet and use a web browser in ubuntu to get access to it
[18:39] <qr> DJones: I'm using it to move files I don't want to go over wireless
[18:40] <qr> the files are >4gb so tranfering them over wireless is slooooooow
[18:40] <qr> and tends to fail for whatever reason
[18:40] <Apteryx> qr: yeah, I tried AirDroid too, it peaks at 700 kB/s for me.
[18:40] <qr> airdroid does look pretty neat though
[18:40] <shinobi420> possibly the encryption strenth
[18:40] <shinobi420> tether is better
[18:41] <nosmelc> I'm putting 12.10 on a USB flash drive using Universal USB Installer.  It's going to take 25 minutes.  That seems way too slow
[18:42] <Apteryx> USB flash drive are slow to write to, usually
[18:42] <Apteryx> I think it's normal
[18:42] <nosmelc> Apteryx: ohh ok.  Thanks
[18:42] <Dragon64> nosmelc: its easier and faster to do from the command line :    if=blah.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=100M
[18:42] <qr> perhaps I spoke too soon about working ... I can browse the device but it just seems to lock up when I try to copy something off it
[18:42] <qr> I don't think it's limited by write speed, when I write files from windows this way it's quite fast
 try running nautilus as root?
[18:43] <nosmelc> Dragon64: doing it from a Win7 machine
[18:43] <Dragon64> io sorry
[18:43] <Dragon64> ha
[18:44] <Seven_Six_Two> I have a multi-homed server connected to both of the household's LANs. It serves webpages through my internet, and serves media to my roommate's boxee box. I'd like to export my music partition to the server with nfs, and then export from the server to the boxee box. Can I "double export" with nfs?
[18:44] <Dragon64> anyone know the best way to tweak notifcations in 12.10?
[18:44] <eon_6874> ... probably ... though seems a bit over the top
[18:44] <Apteryx> Do you guys think its possible to install Ubuntu on the same USB key that is used as the liveUSB media?
[18:45] <Apteryx> I could do a blank partition on it and tell the installer to use that
[18:45] <qr> hmm I get a file not found error with or without root
[18:45] <eon_6874> Apteryx -- you'll probably accidentally something (well, the installer)
[18:45] <qr> could it be because the file is >4gigs?
[18:45] <Davidowski> How can I set NOMODESET on unebootin ?
 and you say it works fine in windows?
[18:45] <qr> yes
[18:45] <qr> flawlessly
[18:46] <eon_6874> Seven: though, why do you need to export it twice?  it's the same server, no?
[18:46] <qr> that's how I got the file on there in the first place :D
[18:46] <shinobi420> wine / vmware w/xp image?
 NTFS partition?
[18:46] <shinobi420> alot of work for a simple talk I know
[18:46] <qr> I have no NTFS here
[18:46] <Apteryx> I'll be back
[18:46] <Apteryx> maybe I found some problem ;)
[18:47] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, because my desktop and the boxee are on different LANs
[18:48] <eon_6874> OK, that's ... um ... wha ...
[18:48] <eon_6874> ?
[18:48] <eon_6874> same house/flat/whatever, no?
[18:49] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, my household has 2 internet connections. The server has 2 network cards, one for each LAN.
[18:50] <Davidowski> How can I set NOMODESET on unebootin ?
[18:50] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, It serves webpages through one internet connection, and media to a boxee box on the other. My music is on the lan through which webpages are served, so therefore its on a different subnet.
[18:50] <eon_6874> OK ... so don't limit the NFS export to one interface, or is your "music partition" partition part of your machine (laptop?)
[18:50] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, yeah, my music is on my desktop, not my server
[18:50] <enrique> hola
[18:51] <cg_> Anyone good with bash?
[18:51] <eon_6874> ah, that complicates things :)
[18:51] <eon_6874> makes sense now
[18:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> cg_: just ask a question, don't ask if anyone's good at something
[18:52] <cg_> Would it just be best if I post it to a thread I'm trying to bounce some ideas off of how to get this script to work.
[18:52] <eon_6874> can try it ... though it might be easier throwing the music onto the server itself and having that share to both subnets
[18:52] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, it's because I moved into a household with their own internet, and I need my own for webserver. They then gave me a nice server to use as long as they can also use it, so I put in an extra nic and connected one nic to each router.
[18:53] <cg_> quit
[18:53] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, you are so right. The only problem is that my music collection is very large. VERY.
[18:53] <eon_6874> should have seen that coming
 you are running ubuntu on that TF300T?
[18:54] <shinobi420> are you in a chroot?
[18:54] <eon_6874> and since it's a boxee box (never played with one), I assume something slightly more elegant (such as SSH hop thru the server) isn't possible?
[18:55] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, no, it only recognizes nfs and smb
[18:55] <eon_6874> can't win ...
[18:55] <eon_6874> gimme 10 minutes to fire up a VM and break things :)
[18:55] <Seven_Six_Two> eon_6874, no doubt. I only care because it's newyearseve...Otherwise it doesn't matter at all
[18:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> Seven_Six_Two: how about a ssh tunnel or bridging the two LANs?
[18:56] <Davidowski> How can I set NOMODESET on unebootin ?
[18:56] <grkblood> my update manager is reporting that a lot of my repos are failing to connect but the ones they are listing are  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports*. I'm not running maverick, I'm running 12.04. Why is it even checking for maverick repos?
[18:57] <jrib> grkblood: because you have them in your repository sources
[18:57] <eon_6874> Tried that idea already - boxee doesn't SSH tunnel ... bridge might work
[18:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Eduard_Munteanu, there's no terminal access with boxee box, but bridging would probably be the best solution. I'm looking in to making my server route
[18:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> eon_6874: no, but I assume the server and desktop can
[18:58] <shinobi420> does anyone know how to adjust permissions for wireless connections in GDM?
[18:59] <shinobi420> I installed gnome on my ubuntu instance and now I am stuck. IT keeps asking me to authenticate to the wifi network but I know my key is correct.
[18:59] <shinobi420> I am pretty sure it's a permissions problem
[18:59] <shinobi420> I dont even know the syntax to do a proper search for the problem
[18:59] <nelson8874> someone recomend a guide for ffmpeg?
[19:00] <eon_6874> yeah server/desktop should be able to do the fun stuff ... but if the boxxee box doesn't play, it's kind of a moot point (then again ... I'm nowhere near an "expert" with ssh)
[19:03] <Jisawesome2> Can anyone help me install a network drive?
[19:03] <eon_6874> maybe.
[19:03] <Apteryx> Still no luck with Universal Storage Class Android phone and LiveUSB :S
[19:04] <eon_6874> Jisawsome2, what're you trying to set up?
[19:04] <Jisawesome2> A wireless card
[19:04] <Jisawesome2> Perhaps the drivers arent the problem though
[19:04] <eon_6874> OK, what's going wrong?
[19:05] <ak> Hi this is the first time I'm here
[19:05] <Jisawesome2> It says that the card has connected, but after about a minute, it disconnects
[19:05] <ak> Do I just ask questions?
[19:05] <Jisawesome2> And when it says it is connected, I cant use the internet
[19:05] <Nakki> hello, does anyone know what does the timer mean at ubuntu.com
[19:06] <eon_6874> yuck -- what's the card?
[19:06] <eon_6874> a new release?
[19:06] <b14d3> Nakki: My guess is with eon_6874
[19:07] <Nakki> cool
[19:07] <b14d3> But I guess we'll know in a couple of days
[19:07] <ztgu> Hi, I can't get my system to suspend to RAM, is there any alternative to make the power take a nap on the system?
[19:07] <Jisawesome2> Rosewill RNX-n150pc
[19:09] <kamidi> Nakki: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/all-new-ubuntu-product-to-launch-jan-2nd-but-what-is-it
[19:09] <ak> Does anyone know how to restore mysql databases from a full system tar.gz file?
[19:11] <jebd> has any one use the program fog with ubuntu?
[19:11] <Jisawesome2> did you see that eon?
[19:12] <eon_6874> Jisawesome2, yeah some Rosewill card.  I take it it's an expansion card for something?
[19:12] <Jisawesome2> Its a wireless card
[19:12] <eon_6874> *expansion card or something (i.e. it's not a laptop's internal card)
[19:12] <Jisawesome2> Right
[19:12] <eon_6874> OK
[19:13] <Jisawesome2> I downloaded the linux driver for it off of the website, but I do not know how to install it
[19:13] <eon_6874> oh, brilliant
[19:13] <eon_6874> so it's a 3rd party driver then ...
[19:13] <Jisawesome2> No, it was off of the manufacturer's website
[19:14] <eon_6874> OK that's easier then
[19:14] <eon_6874> *than
[19:14] <eon_6874> tarball (*.tar or *.tgz or *.tar.* ?) or a deb package?
[19:16] <Jisawesome2> I believe it is *.tar.* but let me boot up to make sure
[19:17] <Jisawesome2> eon, it is *.tar.bz2
[19:17] <eon_6874> OK, first step is to extract it
[19:18] <ClientAlive> I'm trying to change the default window size and location of the gnome-terminal. I've looked at 3 web pages on it, they all say the same thing, none of it actually works. Anyone know what I need to do to accomplish this?
[19:18] <Jisawesome2> check
[19:18] <eon_6874> should be something like tar -xjf <the_filename.tar.bz2>
[19:18] <Jisawesome2> I downloaded a rar file manager
[19:18] <jrib> ClientAlive: what window manager?
[19:19] <eon_6874> wither way works :)  terminal is easier for me
[19:19] <eon_6874> *either
[19:19] <ClientAlive> jrib: gnome 3/ not unity
[19:19] <eon_6874> what'd you get after extracting the stuff?
[19:19] <[twisti]> hello, im trying to install ia32-libs, but i dont want it to pull in X. i vaguely recall there being a switch for apt-get to make it not pull in 23498723462378 goddamn things i dont need, anyone know what im talking about ?
[19:19] <Jisawesome2> A folder
[19:19] <eon_6874> what's in the folder?
[19:20] <jrib> !devilspie | ClientAlive
[19:20] <ClientAlive> jrib: fwiw, I think it's the debian one (from debian repo).
[19:20] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:20] <Jisawesome2> more folders and files
[19:20] <Jisawesome2> !network driver
[19:20] <jrib> ClientAlive: NB I don't know if there is some other way in mutter; I also don't know for sure that devilspie will work
[19:21] <Jisawesome2> There is a readme?
[19:22] <eon_6874> OK, the readme would be a good start -- but the real thing you're looking for is a makefile
[19:22] <Jisawesome2> There is that
[19:23] <ClientAlive> jrib: I'll try it. I would strongly prefer not to install more stuff for something like this but to just edit some config file.
[19:23] <eon_6874> OK, so follow the instructions from the vendor -- should be in either the readme, or as another page on their website.  Either way, it should be something like make <makefile> && make install
[19:24] <eon_6874> though obviously, I'm probably glossing over the specifics (or totally wrong ;) _)
[19:24] <Jisawesome2> Where are you getting this?
[19:25] <k-joseph> dkayiwa: !>
[19:25] <eon_6874> Seven_Six_Two, If you're still around, no dice on the exporting a path that's linked to a NFS share.
[19:25] <eon_6874> where am I getting what?
[19:25] <Jisawesome2> Wait, what am I supposed to do?
[19:26] <eon_6874> Jisawesome2, find the installation instructions written by the hardware vendor
[19:26] <eon_6874> should be another page on their website, or perhaps was included in the tarball
[19:27] <rdw200169> [twisti]: you could try --no-install-recommends with apt-get; this is (well... was) the practice on servers to keep them from installing X with java
[19:27] <[twisti]> rdw200169: makes no difference, it still pulls in 200+ packages, including gnome and qt
[19:27] <Jisawesome2> On the read me there are two sets of instructions: build and configure
[19:27] <eon_6874> need to do both
[19:27] <[twisti]> which i really doubt i need to run 32 bit text mode programs
[19:28] <jrib> [twisti]: what ubuntu version?
[19:28] <blackline> Later today I got help with getting my other internal drive automatically mounted at boot. Since that is solved I have a follow-up question on the same topic. Before when it was mounted the disk was showing up in Nautilus as a shortcut in the menu. Now it doesn't, so it's mounted where it should be but not showing up as convenient as before. Anyone have idea or suggestion how to solve this?
[19:28] <[twisti]> server 12.04 lts
[19:28] <jrib> [twisti]: and what are you trying to install actually?
[19:28] <[twisti]> ia32-libs
[19:28] <eon_6874> blackline, ln -s /path/to/mounted/drive ~/some_file
[19:28] <jrib> [twisti]: no.  What are you actually trying to install?  i.e. why are you installing ia32-libs?
[19:29] <rhagu> hi I used the disk tool to create an ext4 filesystem on a drive, when I added the drive to another pc I saw there was no partition but ext4 at /dev/sda. I was able to mount it, but can I trust this setup? DOesnt it need to be /dev/sda1?
[19:29] <eon_6874> assuming you wanted a symbolic link right in home
[19:29] <[twisti]> to run the android sdk tools, they are already installed, but dont run, and google told me its because i dont have ia32-libs installed
[19:29] <SolarisBoy> rhagu: technically no it just means you wrote a fs to a complete disk and not a partition
[19:30] <[twisti]> specifically, i get this error: /var/lib/jenkins/tools/android-sdk-linux/tools/ant/build.xml:688: Execute failed: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "/var/lib/jenkins/tools/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/aapt": error=2, No such file or directory
[19:30] <jrib> [twisti]: ia32-libs is a metapackage, you can just install the packages actually required.  You can install 32-bit versions of packages now by appending package names with ":i386"
[19:30] <[twisti]> but that file is there and accessible and all
[19:30] <blackline> eon_6874, I don't know if that was what I meant. To be more specific, if I look in Nautilus I have a pane to the left with Computer, Home, Desktop etc. I would like the disk to show up with a fancy disk icon in that pane.
[19:30] <jrib> [twisti]: how are you intsalling the android sdk tools?
[19:30] <rhagu> SolarisBoy should I format the drive again or can I trust this setup?
[19:30] <[twisti]> tar -xzvf android-sdk.tgz
[19:31] <eon_6874> blackline, oh that makes sense.  I don't use Nautilus for moving around
[19:31] <[twisti]> i dont believe they come any other way
[19:31] <japro> hrmf, so it seems installing ia32-libs broke opengl?
[19:31] <jrib> [twisti]: inside, is there documentation detailing its requirements?  Or have you found official documentation detailing the requirements?  Also, can you pastebin the error in full?
[19:32] <SolarisBoy> rhagu: you can trust it - there is nothing wrong with it - though i rather partitions on my drives you could simply partition it which would wipe the ext4 (and any data) and rewrite the filesystem if you want
[19:32] <blackline> eon_6874, i don't know if this is nautilus specific.
[19:32] <blackline> eon_6874, but i guess so
[19:32] <Jisawesome2> what does 'define the linux kernel source inclkude file path LINUX_SRC modify to meet your need" mean?
[19:32] <rhagu> SolarisBoy I would have to do that over the terminal, thank you for the answer I will keep it the way it is
[19:32] <blackline> eon_6874, if i connect another external drive it shows up as the other drive did before.
[19:32] <SolarisBoy> rhagu: sure
[19:34] <[twisti]> jrib: i have found no requirements, im going off of this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1943746/android-eclipse-plugin-cant-find-valid-paths
[19:34] <eon_6874> blackline, yeah it's a Nautilus thing for how it's displaying drives.  Hot-plugged drives show up in a different place.  you *could* try modifying your fstab to mount the drive into /media
[19:34] <eon_6874> assuming that it's in /mnt right now
[19:34] <[twisti]> i can paste the error, but its just a java stacktrace that i doubt would help you much
[19:34] <[twisti]> i have confirmed that i have the same situation: i have the file, its executable, i have permissions, and yet i get the error that it doesnt exist when i try to start it
[19:35] <blackline> eon_6874, ok if that's the space for usb-drives and such maybe that's not the "proper" place to have it.
[19:35] <Jisawesome2> Could I simply run the driver CD in wine?
[19:35] <[twisti]> jrib: as you can tell from the comments, ia32-libs did help the person (and i found other advice where it also helped other people with this issue)
[19:35] <jrib> [twisti]: here's the official note: https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html .  Anyway, you can just install the packages you want (read: need) from the list you get with « apt-cache depends ia32-libs-multiarch ».  Ideally, you would find documentation telling you what actual packages you need 32bit versions of
[19:36] <blackline> eon_6874, but as for now it's not showing anywhere convenient except for in mnt/storage1 which is not very reachable.
[19:36] <[twisti]> as you can see, that advice just tells me to install ia32-libs as well
[19:36] <edong23> Ok... First, i have googled and it appears everyone is aware of this, but im still confused as to why this is a problem.  Question:  Why can you not take the system disk from one machine and put it in another and boot when using disk-by-uuid?  Ultimately, you can, but it is an outrageous amount of work (if the old system is dead and you are using lvm and such as you need to use ubuntu recovery)  so... like i said, isnt disk-by-uuid supposed
[19:36] <edong23> to fix that/
[19:36] <eon_6874> blackline, yeah understand where you're coming from
[19:36] <jrib> [twisti]: yes, I acknowledged this.
[19:36] <edong23> ?
[19:36] <eon_6874> symlink from your home directory would "probably" be the easiest
[19:36] <blackline> eon_6874, in the same pane the filesystem is listed. i suppose i could get it listed there somehow?
[19:37] <[twisti]> i have no idea how i would tell what packages i would need, i figured the X depency of ia32-libs was a bug of sorts that i could just sidestep somehow
[19:37] <eon_6874> yeah, hang on a sec ...
[19:37] <[twisti]> i know i somehow managed to get this working a year ago, but that server went gonzo, and while i backed up a lot, i didnt back up the solution to this
[19:37] <jrib> [twisti]: ia32-libs just installs the 32bit versions of a bunch of common libraries, including things like qt apparently.
[19:38] <[twisti]> that sucks
[19:38] <[twisti]> is there any way to tell what libs that executable is trying to access ?
[19:38] <SolarisBoy> ldd
[19:38] <dakotawulfy> hi
[19:38] <jrib> [twisti]: if you pastebin the error in full then maybe I can make a guess/suggestion.  Otherwise, just start installing from the output of « apt-cache depends ia32-libs-multiarch » and checking that the packages to be installed don't bother you
[19:38] <user94202> in KDE, How do i get rid of the translucent options next to desktop icons (when I hover the pointer over an icon)  ??
[19:39] <eon_6874> blackline, Quick fix seems that if you mount the drive into /media or /home it'll show up in Nautilus (assuming that the fix for "How do I make Nautilus *NOT* show mounted drives can be reversed to get what you want)
[19:39] <[twisti]> SolarisBoy: "not a dynamic executable"
[19:39] <SolarisBoy> meh
[19:39] <blackline> eon_6874, i'll give it a try. thanks!
[19:39] <[twisti]> jrib: http://pastebin.com/xjvLzd2q
[19:40] <[twisti]> or from the command line: http://pastebin.com/9sRLdV43
[19:40] <jrib> [twisti]: there are some packages listed here, though I haven't read closely: https://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
[19:40] <[twisti]> oh hm
[19:41] <[twisti]> could i somehow see which of the packages from ia32 i have already installed as 32bit ?
[19:41] <eon_6874> blackline, yep, just tested it, and it showed up in nautilus
[19:42] <jrib> [twisti]: dpkg -l '*:i386' | grep '^ii'
[19:42] <[twisti]> No packages found matching *:i386.
[19:43] <eon_6874> just used "mount -t nfs4 <myserver>:/mnt/share /media/test" and it popped up in Nautilus.  so changing your fstab to point at /media/storage instead of /mnt/storage should leave you golden
[19:44] <jrib> [twisti]: check the second answer here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2710499/android-sdk-on-a-64-bit-linux-machine
[19:45] <InfiniteByte> everytime i boot up ubuntu checks my hard drive for errors. before i installed it new it did this every so often, but not every time. what could be wrong?
[19:45] <eon_6874> InfiniteByte, hard drive might be dying
[19:46] <[twisti]> POW!
[19:46] <SolarisBoy> [twisti]: so your trying to run the aapt binary and the issue is your getting that message no such file or dir?
[19:46] <[twisti]> that worked, thank you jrib
[19:46] <[twisti]> i bow to your google foo
[19:46] <[twisti]> yes SolarisBoy
[19:46] <InfiniteByte> eon_6874, the drive is maximum 12 months old...
[19:46] <[twisti]> jrib: may i ask what you googled to find that ? i spent a long time before whining here
[19:47] <jrib> [twisti]: (I used duckduckgo.com) android sdk apt-get install i386
[19:47] <eon_6874> InfiniteByte, sometimes things fail ... try a SMART check or use the vendor's tools (if any) to do a full check on it.  good news is that if it is going, it's still under warranty
[19:47] <edong23> InfiniteByte: age doesnt really matter for a failing drive... but it could also be that you arent cleanly shutting down.   are you certain you are cleanly shutting down every time?
[19:47] <delinquentme> ok so i've got kind of a full-stack question of rails running on an ubuntu server with regards to efficiency
[19:48] <delinquentme> I've got an action where a given 20 files are open + read + closed on an instance that I need running very quickly
[19:48] <delinquentme> my GUT feeling says open the files once ... and leave them open
[19:48] <delinquentme> ( and if GC needs to close them let GC handle it )
[19:49] <delinquentme> vs opening + closing a file every event
[19:49] <blackline> eon_6874, i'll give it a try. thanks
[19:49] <InfiniteByte> edong23, i press the power button, then i'm asked, if ireally want to shutdown, then i click "turn off"/"shutdown"
[19:49] <ClientAlive> jrib: it's in the settings of the terminal itself (click: edit > profile preferences OR edit > profiles [to create a custom one]). You can eve set transparency and everything. I didn't try too hard but gdevilspie wasn't working.
[19:50] <jrib> ClientAlive: cool
[19:50] <blackline> eon_6874, oops, doublesent that message ;) what i intendet to write was that it solved my problem and ended up as I wished for :D
[19:51] <[twisti]> time to answer all the other similar questions i found along the way with this newfound knowledge!
[19:51] <jrib> [twisti]: nah, you should close all the threads with "never mind, figured it out"
[19:51] <stephenmac7> I was wondering if I can use the vanilla Ubuntu Desktop (64-bit) on a secure-boot computer
[19:52] <stephenmac7> (to dual-boot with Windows 8)
[19:52] <Magellanicus> i have trouble playing tf2 in steam
[19:52] <Magellanicus> it says that i need to install some s3tc thing
[19:52] <Magellanicus> any help?
[19:52] <edong23> InfiniteByte: try smartctl as stated by ... whoever
[19:52] <stephenmac7> Do you have all the steam deps installed?
[19:53] <Magellanicus> what is a dep?
[19:53] <stephenmac7> Dependencies
[19:53] <Magellanicus> idk
[19:53] <Magellanicus> how can i know if i got all the deps installed?
[19:54] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Let me check.
[19:54] <eon_6874> good deal blackline
[19:54] <mustafa> hi
[19:54] <fishbait_xxx> my compiz won't come up
[19:54] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Wait a second
[19:54] <Magellanicus> k
[19:55] <InfiniteByte> short test is running, long test follows tomorrow
[19:56] <edong23> InfiniteByte: generally speaking just run smartctl -a /dev/sda
[19:56] <edong23> or whatrever
[19:56] <edong23> and it should give you the current results
[19:56] <churl> Hello!  What sets the location for where your "Trash" folder is held?
[19:56] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Try running: sudo apt-get install libjpeg-turbo8:i386 libcurl3gnutls:i386 libogg0:i386 libpixman-1-0:i386 libsdl1.2debian:i386 libtheora0:i386 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386 libvorbisfile3:i386 libasound2:i386 libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxau6:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386
[19:56] <eon_6874> assuming the steam package is on apt ... apt-get check <the steam package> should do it
[19:56] <Magellanicus> k ty
[19:57] <fishbait_xxx> my compiz won't come up i click com[oz config settings it says its starting then nothing i tried doing reinstall on all of compiz via synaptic but still same result i can't get compiz to come up. little help here?
[19:58] <fishbait_xxx> *compiz
[19:58] <ClientAlive> champagne and bold on the font, grey0 on the background, and about a 60 transparency. woo!!  :>
[19:58] <Catbuntu> Does Xubuntu have a much better performance than Ubuntu?
[19:58] <churl> Catbuntu: how new is your machine?
[19:59] <dakotawulfy>  fishbait_xxx do u have a .compiz under your user  if try to rename  to something different then try it
[19:59] <fishbait_xxx> will do
[20:00] <eon_6874> churl, it _should_ be in /home/(your_username)/.local/Trash
[20:00] <eon_6874> er
[20:00] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Wait, is your computer 64-bit or 32-bit?
[20:00] <fishbait_xxx> i appended .old to it trying compiz now
[20:00] <eon_6874> /home/(your_username)/.local/share/trash
[20:00] <churl> eon_6874: not the location of the folder, but what sets that as the trash folder :)
[20:00] <Catbuntu> Church, about three years old.
[20:00] <Magellanicus> 64 bit
[20:00] <Magellanicus> stephenmac7
[20:00] <Catbuntu> 3GB of RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz, Nvidia 9300M GS
[20:00] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Okay, so that should work
[20:01] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Has the command finished executing
[20:01] <churl> Catbuntu: I'm running xubuntu on a similar machine and window switching is instant.  I love it
[20:01] <Magellanicus> no im not on ubuntu now
[20:01] <Magellanicus> im on windows
[20:01] <Magellanicus> ty
[20:01] <fishbait_xxx> dakotawulfy: no go same result
[20:02] <InfiniteByte> i did two short test with smartctl withouth erorrs
[20:02] <dakotawulfy>  fishbait_xxx can u type in that command in a terminal see if it gives u errors
[20:02] <dakotawulfy> might help u see what going on
[20:03] <stephenmac7> Magellanicus: Ah, okay.
[20:03] <fishbait_xxx> dakotawulfy: what command?
[20:03] <dakotawulfy> compiz
[20:03] <dakotawulfy>  or the name to start it
[20:04] <dakotawulfy> i dont have compiz not sure
[20:04] <churl> Catbuntu: If that didn't fully answer your question, lemme know :)
[20:04] <churl> Hello!  What file sets the location for where your "Trash" folder is held?
[20:04] <jhansonxi> Catbuntu: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210beta_desktops
[20:05] <paris> Hi folks! It used to work voice over gmail, and now is dead. What are the alternative to it?
[20:05] <dakotawulfy>  paris: skype
[20:06] <Catbuntu> Oh, that's nice churl.
[20:06] <dakotawulfy> paris: works really good
[20:06] <Catbuntu> Unity runs well on my computer too, so I don't know what to use :(
[20:06] <fishbait_xxx> dakotawulfy: yah it said it already had a window manager and to run --replace so i did now i don't have any bars i'm in gnome3 de fyi
[20:06] <Catbuntu> XFCE is more GNOME 2 like and I customized it like GNOME 2, but Unity is newer plus it's GTK3.
[20:06] <Catbuntu> XFCE has good support for GTK3?
[20:06] <eon_6874> churl, looks like it's set by some config files ... see here for the standard: http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/trashspec.html
[20:07] <churl> eon_6874: thanks!
[20:07] <paris> dakotawalty, I am very grateful, but skype is own by Microsoft, maybe you know something else?
[20:07] <matrixfox> msn
[20:07] <eon_6874> google chat/voice/whatever doesn't work anymore?
[20:08] <churl> Catbuntu: I think it does some and is moving in that direction.  Some official XFCE sites discuss it more.
[20:08] <fishbait_xxx> paris: google search free skype alternative.
[20:08] <dakotawulfy> paris: yahoo just got rid of theirs too
[20:08] <matrixfox> Tango?
[20:08] <dakotawulfy>  fishbait_xxx not sure sorry
[20:09] <marahin> I am using skype on ubuntu, and it's working pretty well :P
[20:09] <Magellanicus> hi
[20:09] <Magellanicus> it says that the package
[20:09] <eon_6874> paris: try pidgin maybe?
[20:09] <dakotawulfy> yea i use it when i play smokin guns works great
[20:09] <Magellanicus> libcurl3gnutls:i386 doesnt exists
[20:10] <dakotawulfy> wait
[20:10] <Magellanicus> i cant play tf2 on steam it says something about installing s3tc or something thing
[20:10] <dakotawulfy>  jabbber has one
[20:10] <Magellanicus> any help?
[20:10] <paris> it works under Windows, but under Linux, voice over gimal it will not work. Ps computer is recognizing that it has microphone and everything, but simply it will not work.
[20:10] <dakotawulfy>  u should be able to use pidgin
[20:11] <marahin> root, never run anything on root account! Ever.
[20:11] <dakotawulfy> paris have to have a jabber account
[20:11] <fishbait_xxx> okay so to get back my enviroment i killed the terminal window then i did cntrl+alt+f2 and issued sudo service gdm stop then sudo service gdm start and loged in and have back my enviro now
[20:11] <matrixfox> marahin: What about distro updates?
[20:11] <paris> what is jabber?
[20:11] <marahin> matrixfox, well, except those. :P
[20:11] <dakotawulfy>  but us pidgin i tryed that the other day seem to work
[20:11] <marahin> i mean, don't run anything that you DONT have to!
[20:12] <dakotawulfy> like yahoo
[20:12] <fishbait_xxx> compiz says that it already has a windows manager how do i fix this?
[20:12] <dakotawulfy>  in pidgin u can set it up
[20:12] <Catbuntu> churl, so do you recommend me XFCE over Unity?
[20:13] <dakotawulfy>  but the other person will have to have that account too
[20:13] <Magellanicus> anyone help?
[20:13] <Magellanicus> i cant play tf2 on steam
[20:13] <eon_6874> Magellanicus: have you tried via apt?
[20:13] <churl> Catbuntu: in regards to xfce and gtk3
[20:13] <Magellanicus> how can i do that?
[20:13] <churl> Catbuntu: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE4MDE
[20:14] <Magellanicus> it says something about s3ct texture
[20:14] <daftykins> s3tc, a form of texture compression probably
[20:14] <Magellanicus> i need to install that
[20:14] <paris> Is it pidgin easy to use, and can I call local and international phones?
[20:14] <daftykins> Magellanicus: did you install a graphics driver?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> Magellanicus  type /join #steamlug
[20:14] <OerHeks> Magellanicus, the full error helps
[20:14] <Catbuntu> Well I'm gonna try
[20:15] <Catbuntu> Thanks churl :)
[20:15] <Magellanicus> i think i havent installed a graphic driver
[20:15] <eon_6874> Magellanicus -- s3tc is apparently the s3 Texture Compression suite (yay google and wikipedia)
[20:15] <churl> Catbuntu: personal taste of how I like to interact with my computer.
[20:15] <Catbuntu> I like them all haha
[20:15] <daftykins> Magellanicus: what card do you have?
[20:16] <daftykins> eon_6874: welcome to 1 minute ago ;)
[20:16] <Magellanicus> intel integrated
[20:16] <Magellanicus> idk the model
[20:16] <daftykins> ah-har
[20:16] <eon_6874> curse you internets
[20:17] <churl> Catbuntu: I've only heard negative things about unity and after trying it myself, got rid of it.  Xubuntu was easier for me to customize to my liking.  And remember:  Xubuntu is not XFCE. :)
[20:17] <daftykins> Magellanicus: sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386
[20:18] <Catbuntu> yes perhaps
[20:18] <Catbuntu> The bad thing about xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu is that it changes the boot screen.
[20:18] <Catbuntu> Well, brb
[20:18] <daftykins> Magellanicus: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/231176/how-do-i-install-s3tc
[20:19] <Magellanicus> k ill try that
[20:19] <churl> Happy new years eve!
[20:19] <Magellanicus> i have a 64 bits os
[20:19] <Magellanicus> btw
[20:20] <dufa> churl: Happy New Year, I get to wait 2 more hours
[20:21] <churl> dufa: where are you? :)
[20:21] <D-coy> 10 hours here
[20:21] <eon_6874> just about 9h here ...
[20:21] <churl> 8.5 hours here
[20:22] <fishbait_xxx> compiz give me an error: ""compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager."" but when i do it just gives me a desktop and wallpaper. no bars no way to start programs. how do i fix this?
[20:23] <basix> so what is going to happen in 37 hours? I see a message on ubuntu.com ??
[20:24] <eon_6874> basix: probably a new release
[20:24] <basix> in january?
[20:24] <basix> dont they have releases in April & October?
[20:24] <kamidi> basix: some other product release.. apparently
[20:25] <basix> ah
[20:26] <basix> has anybody gotten ubuntu to run well on a MBP 15" with Retina ?
[20:27] <basix> i've seen some howtos on the web but nothing very concrete
[20:29] <phoenix_firebrd> happy new year
[20:32] <fishbait_xxx> compiz give me an error: ""compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager."" but when i do it just gives me a desktop and wallpaper. no bars no way to start programs. how do i fix this?
[20:32] <fishbait_xxx> compiz give me an error: ""compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager."" but when i do it just gives me a desktop and wallpaper. no bars no way to start programs. how do i fix this?
[20:33] <churl> fishbait_xxx: I'm guessing, but it sounds like it's drawing your desktop based on what settings it has
[20:34] <fishbait_xxx> churl: hmmm
[20:35] <eon_6874> fishbait_xxx : The "Advanced Destop Effects" in Ubuntu is Compiz, and it's installed by default. (per google anyway)
[20:36] <wolftune> hi
[20:37] <fishbait_xxx> i know that but i'm getting the same result in gnome, gnome-classic, gnome classic(no effects), and kde.
[20:38] <wolftune> So I'm having really spotty internet, but I'm not losing my connection to the router and other computers on the network are working. I think it might be DNS related, but just guessing
[20:38] <fishbait_xxx> this is an issue with compiz and xorg or lower
[20:38] <eon_6874> so ... since Compiz is _already_ installed, why're you trying to install it?
[20:38] <eon_6874> ... then again, maybe I missed the real problem :|
[20:39] <eon_6874> wolftune -- if everything internally is working fine, the trouble is on the WAN side (your modem and/or the ISP)
[20:40] <wolftune> nameserver 127.0.0.1, search acd.net, nameserver 192.168.0.1 nameserver 127.0.0.1
[20:40] <wolftune> is all I see in resolv.conf
[20:40] <wolftune> aside from don't edit comments
[20:40] <eon_6874> localhost, no idea what acd.net is, your router, and localhost again
[20:41] <wolftune> acd.net is the ISP
[20:41] <fishbait_xxx> i know that but i'm getting the same result in gnome, gnome-classic, gnome classic(no effects), and kde. this is an issue with compiz and xorg or lower, i've tried re-install via synaptic, and removing .compiz(i put it back though when that didn't work) i am using nvidia graphics
[20:41] <wolftune> what happens is, I can turn off wifi, turn it back on, and then usually it works for a while, sometimes just a short time though
[20:41] <wolftune> then everything seems fine but nothing actually loads
[20:41] <wolftune> until I turn on and off wifi again
[20:43] <fishbait_xxx> wolftune: see if your connection stabilizes when your right next to the router if your using a wireless connection.
[20:43] <wolftune> Well, I think so, but it is hard to tell
[20:43] <eon_6874> you could try adding the openDNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) if you think it's DNS.  though if it's spotty with the wifi like you say, sounds more like the card or the router (now, if when you lose the "outside world" you can sill connect to internal stuff, the trouble is beyond the router)
[20:44] <wolftune> I see, so next time I have trouble I should maybe try to ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[20:44] <wolftune> Well, here's one more bit of info:
[20:44] <fishbait_xxx> wolftune: do others report these same kinds of issues?
[20:44] <wolftune> Not really
[20:44] <eon_6874> so, it whines when you try running "compiz" ... but it's already installed and (apparently) running, so why not configure it using the "advanced display settings"?
[20:44] <wolftune> seems to be this computer and not others on the same network
[20:45] <wolftune> my friend helped me make a bash file to automatically reset the wifi
[20:45] <fishbait_xxx> but have others reported the same issues at all?
[20:46] <wolftune> fishbait_xxx: there have been past issues with other computers having stalled network connections, i.e. not really getting data, but not much lately
[20:46] <wolftune> and we're talking about maybe 100 times dropping in a couple hours on some occassions on my computer
[20:46] <wolftune> so the bash file pings 192.168.0.1 and resets the wifi if the ping fails repeatedly
[20:47] <churl> fishbait_xxx: are you just getting a blank screen when you run compiz --replace?
[20:47] <wolftune> when running this bash file, I have seen it lose the ping and reset a number of times
[20:47] <fishbait_xxx> wolftune hmm if others show low signal levels then go into the router and change the wifi channel could be high levels of interference
[20:47] <wolftune> but I also have had times when the data is failing to connect and the pinging is still seeing the router
[20:48] <wolftune> Ok
[20:48] <wolftune> I had the router before on auto for channel
[20:48] <wolftune> I recently tried setting channel 6 or something, but it's been bad still
[20:48] <wolftune> just try a different channel?
[20:48] <fishbait_xxx> wolftune well then i'm out of ideas leave it on auto then
[20:49] <wolftune> maybe 6 is bad and should try a different stable one?
[20:49] <fishbait_xxx> i was assuming a fixed channel
[20:49] <wolftune> I was wondering if the connection was getting messed up when it was changing channels…
[20:49] <fishbait_xxx> wolftune: leave it on auto it should be good
[20:49] <wolftune> oh ok
[20:50] <wolftune> but I had problems with auto also, so I dunno
[20:50] <ortrigger> I have a question. Can I upgrade my 32 bit 12.04 installation to a 64 bit 12.10 installation without doing a full format?
[20:50] <eon_6874> auto ... or force it to 1/11 (as IIRC, a lot of routers default on 6)
[20:50] <usr13> ortrigger: No
[20:50] <ortrigger> Didn't think so. Thanks for answering though.
[20:50] <fishbait_xxx> wolftune: if it can still ping the router but can't ping the internet then the problem is beyond your control but beyond this i'm out of ideas
[20:51] <wolftune> well, it seems like maybe it is both problems
[20:51] <wolftune> sometimes it can't ping the router, I know that
[20:51] <usr13> wolftune: fishbait_xxx Could be just a bad/bogus nameserver
[20:51] <ortrigger> wolftune, I missed a lot of the conversation but what is going on?
[20:51] <wolftune> user13: that's what I was wondering
[20:52] <eon_6874> if it was a bad nameserver you wouldn't be failing the ping to 192.168.0.1 ever
[20:52] <usr13> wolftune: What nameserver are you using?  (cat /etc/resolv.conf )
[20:52] <wolftune> outrigger: constant dropping of wifi functioning for actually getting data
[20:52] <wolftune> usr13: that's what I started with wondering about
[20:52] <wolftune> usr13: un momento
[20:52] <fishbait_xxx> hmm when it does that again try pinging 8.8.8.8 then try pinging www.google.com if 8.8.8.8 works but google doesn't then its dns related
[20:53] <usr13> eon_6874: I did not see earlier conversation.
[20:53] <ortrigger> Is this happening on everything connected to your router?
[20:53] <Noskcaj> kirkland, ping
[20:53] <wolftune> my resolv.conf says 192.168.0.1 and acd.net (my ISP) and 127.0.0.1 and that's the only things listed
[20:54] <usr13> wolftune: route -n  #what does that say?
[20:54] <wolftune> Kernel IP routing table
[20:54] <wolftune> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[20:54] <wolftune> 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[20:54] <wolftune> 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     2      0        0 wlan0
[20:54] <FloodBot1> wolftune: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <wolftune> oh ok
[20:54] <wolftune> thanks sorry
[20:55] <usr13> wolftune:  ping  -c3 8.8.8.8  #Just tell us if it pings or not.
[20:55] <wolftune> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1483229/
[20:55] <wolftune> ok
[20:55] <ortrigger> wolftune: can you ping the local host?
[20:56] <wolftune> yes it pings ping  -c3 8.8.8.8
[20:56] <wolftune> right now I am not having trouble though
[20:56] <usr13> wolftune: host av.com |pastebinit
[20:56] <wolftune> so I'm not at the moment in the state where it is glitchy
[20:56] <usr13> wolftune: When DO you have trouble?
[20:56] <wolftune> maybe it is when I am in the other room
[20:57] <wolftune> just 10 feet away though
[20:57] <wolftune> but I'm not sure
[20:57] <usr13> (We can not fix something that is now broken.
[20:57] <usr13> wolftune: Is this a wireless connection?
[20:57] <wolftune> yes
[20:57] <usr13> wolftune: I would suggest that when you are in the other room, the signal is poor, (too low to keep up a reliable connection).
[20:58] <usr13> wolftune: You can test by going in the other room and issue command:  iwconfig  #And look at the signal report.  Pastebinit if you can.
[20:58] <wolftune> But the trouble happens while I am physically in reach of two other computers that do not have this wifi trouble
[20:58] <usr13> wolftune: Show us what it is now.   iwconfig |pastebinit
[20:59] <ortrigger> wolftune: devices can be kind of finicky with how far they get signal.
[20:59] <usr13> (I'll tell you what to look for.)
[20:59] <wolftune> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1483235/
[20:59] <Catbuntu> churl, Xubuntu is not for me haha
[21:00] <Catbuntu> I had to totaly purge it, the good thing is that I recovered my bootscreen.
[21:00] <wolftune> But why would turning on and off the wifi fix the weak signal (temporarilty at least)?
[21:00] <Catbuntu> But if I want a gnome2-like DE, I think I'll use Cinnamon :)
[21:01] <usr13> wolftune: You see the part where it says: Link Quality=60/70   If when you go to the other room, it's 50/70 or even 55/70  you may not get reliable communication.  There is a threshold somewhere below 60 that you just dop out, ( you're "
[21:01] <usr13> "in the mub")
[21:02] <Kilumnati> hey anyone on efnet server here.. did they just go down>
[21:02] <Kilumnati> ?
[21:02] <wolftune> usr13: thanks for info, that command will be useful for troubleshooting
[21:03] <wolftune> currently, right next to the router, I get 63-66
[21:03] <wolftune> but wandering around, the lowest I got was 58
[21:04] <wolftune> But I always had this sense that maybe it was interference from dozens of neighbor's wifi signals
[21:04] <Kilumnati> is efnet down guys?
[21:04] <usr13> wolftune: That is an issue, and sometimes changing channels will help.
[21:04] <wolftune> would the other computers near me on the same wifi cause my signal to be worse?
[21:04] <wolftune> usr13: what's your take on "auto" channels?
[21:05] <usr13> wolftune: You also have to take into consideration noise level.
[21:05] <wolftune> usr13: I thought maybe the signal was getting lost when the auto was changing
[21:05] <churl> fishbait_xxx: I have an idea about your compiz problem
[21:05] <wolftune> I haven't yet tried various static channels
[21:05] <usr13> wolftune: Look at what closest/strongest neighbors are using and try to pick different ones.
[21:06] <usr13> wolftune: No, auto is supposed to compensate for those issues for you.
[21:06] <churl> fishbait_xxx: are you around?
[21:06] <wolftune> usr13: so auto is the way to go? how do I find out what channel neighbors are on?
[21:06] <usr13> wolftune: When your wireless card is set to auto, it will automatically switch if it thinks another set of channels are less congested.
[21:07] <wolftune> usr13: oh but what about the auto on the router?
[21:07] <usr13> wolftune: iwlist wlan0 scan
[21:07] <wolftune> usr13: I didn't do anything with my wireless card settings
[21:07] <usr13> wolftune: Yes, that is where the switching will take place, on the router.
[21:08] <usr13> wolftune: My eariler comment may have been missworded.  The router is where you set channels.
[21:08] <wolftune> usr13: got it
[21:09] <fishbait_xxx> churl: yeah?
[21:09] <CloudGuy> hi .. is there a downside to have a lot of arrays in software raid 1 ...    is it good to have 1 /boot and rest all in lvm, or one /boot, and a few lvms on different partitions
[21:09] <wolftune> for whatever reason, none of my neighborhood wifi signals are showing now and I'm not having any trouble. Figures this is what would happen when I go to troubleshoot
[21:09] <CloudGuy> hard drives are just 2 in raid 1
[21:09] <CloudGuy> software raid1
[21:10] <churl> fishbait_xxx: if your computer is like mine, it's not playing well with opengl.  I can turn off every option in compiz that uses opengl and I don't get a black screen.
[21:10] <wolftune> maybe my troubles really are just noisy interference from other wifi signals
[21:10] <usr13> wolftune: You either pick a pair or you set to auto.  Are you in the USA?
[21:10] <wolftune> usr13: yes USA
[21:11] <wolftune> still seems weird that only this computer has trouble. Could it be this computer specifically or how good/bad the Linux drivers for this particular wireless card are?
[21:11] <Jlinkz> how do i compile programs in linux?
[21:12] <fishbait_xxx> churl: how would i tell if its not playing well with open gl i'm using nvidia graphics for an xlr8 enthusiast edition geforce 550 ti
[21:13] <usr13> wolftune: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
[21:13] <churl> fishbait_xxx: I ran:  fusion-icon then right-clicked to get the "settings" and turned everything off.  But I think the real issue here is your driver.
[21:14] <usr13> wolftune: Your non-overlaping channels are 1, 6, and 11
[21:14] <wolftune> hmm
[21:14] <wolftune> usr13: thanks, don't fully understand, but ok, maybe I should just try channel 1?
[21:15] <usr13> wolftune: But problem is that if your nieghbor's are on auto,  it's going to just be a game of tag, (therefore, you are better off to just be on auto as well).
[21:16] <fishbait_xxx> churl: i'm using the non proprieatary nvidia-current driver i'll try another one from software source>additional drivers.
[21:16] <wolftune> is there any reason to choose 20MHz vs Auto 20/40MHz ?
[21:17] <wolftune> what I really want is a different world. It's silly to create all this noise. https://openwireless.org/
[21:17] <churl> fishbait_xxx: I was using the proprietary one and it wasn't working for me, so I"m installing the one you have now.  Good luck to us both :)
[21:18] <fishbait_xxx> churl: hmm maybe not the driver then
[21:18] <usr13> wolftune: Yes, try and see.  But again, the only prolbem may be that the degredation of signal between your router to your PC, because Microwave propagation is basicaly line-of-site and anything that gets in the way, (like furnature or appliances), will cause degredation of signal.  Considering that, you may try repositioning your router, (higher or closer to the ceeling is better for one thing, you might even consider putting it in the attic if you have one.
[21:19] <wolftune> usr13: thanks. Router is on a high shelf already
[21:19] <usr13> ... or just a more centeralized location.
[21:19] <usr13> ok
[21:19] <wolftune> what about 802.11 settings? right now I'm on mixed
[21:20] <usr13> Could change to g only or b only and see.
[21:20] <usr13> I would try g only
[21:20] <wolftune> I have n too
[21:20] <usr13> Right...
[21:20] <usr13> try n
[21:20] <wolftune> Instead of mixed?
[21:20] <srikanth> hi
[21:20] <usr13> Just have to experiment.  Yes instead of mixed.
[21:21] <srikanth> anyone here?
[21:21] <wolftune> Should I try no b but mixed g/n first? or just n?
[21:21] <wolftune> any chance one of the older laptops doesn't handle n and then won't work at all?
[21:21] <usr13> I dono.  if the options are g/n  vs b  try b
[21:21] <srikanth> i have a ques
[21:21] <b14d3> !ask | srikanth
[21:22] <wolftune> usr13: I have all possible combos except for b and n without g
[21:22] <Success> hey I use paint.net on windows, whats good for ubuntu 12.10
[21:22] <wolftune> usr13: can be all three, paired, or just one
[21:22] <srikanth> how can i install a tar.gz in ubuntu?
[21:22] <b14d3> wolftune: You may want to just generally read up on wireless and how it works, to get a better feel for things as well.
[21:22] <wolftune> Success: I recommend MyPaint if you want the most amazing painting
[21:22] <usr13> Success: There is gimp and there is a paint app too.  I use gimp a lot.
[21:22] <b14d3> Success: Gimp seems to be fairly well reviewed, although I don't use it myself.
[21:22] <daftykins> wireless = magic voodoo
[21:22] <Success> usr13: have you ever used paint.net?
[21:23] <usr13> Success: No, but have used KolorPaint
[21:23] <usr13> daftykins: amen
[21:24] <wolftune> Success: based on my impression of paint.net, you want to use GIMP mainly and use MyPaint for extra painting type stuff
[21:24] <usr13> daftykins: wireless = not-an-exact-science
[21:24] <wolftune> Success: GIMP is competitive and very powerful
[21:25] <usr13> Success: Gimp is usually all I need.
[21:25] <srikanth> anyone please tell me how i can install a tar.gz in ubuntu
[21:25] <Success> okay I'll check it out. mostly want a ton of effects and such like http://i.imgur.com/zYqeg.jpg
[21:25] <wolftune> Success: one interesting way to get into graphics on GNU/Linux: http://libregraphicsworld.org/
[21:25] <Success> srikanth: compile it
[21:25] <usr13> srikanth: Why not a .deb?
[21:26] <usr13> srikanth:  What exactly are you wanting to install?  (Do you have a package name?)
[21:26] <wolftune> Success: GIMP has extra plugins and more, that's probably where you want to focus, but there's other tools too
[21:26] <usr13> srikanth: (apt-cache is your friend)
[21:27] <wolftune> usr13: thanks for the help. I've got more ideas to troubleshoot now, we'll see how it goes
[21:28] <srikanth> i don't have a .deb
[21:28] <usr13> wolftune: Okey Dokey.   Have lots of fun,.
[21:28] <usr13> srikanth: What package are you wanting ?
[21:28] <wolftune> usr13: :)
[21:28] <Success> srikanth: what is what you are trying to install called?
[21:28] <srikanth> it is cisco iou
[21:29] <usr13> srikanth: what is a "cisco iou"   Some sort of firewall thing?
[21:29] <srikanth> no
[21:29] <Success> srikanth: if its like any other file, decompress it to a direction, open a terminal ( READ THE README FILE ) and do a .make
[21:29] <srikanth> it is sort of like gns3
[21:29] <Success> s/direction/directory
[21:30] <srikanth> for networking
[21:30] <srikanth> how to compile it?
[21:30] <srikanth> or decompress it?
[21:31] <usr13> srikanth: If you just need to unpack it:  tar xvf file.gz   or if it's just a compressed file  gunzip file.gz  (Not knowing what it is, we can't give specific advise).
[21:31] <usr13> SirCmpwn: Is it a package?  Or just an archive?  Or just a compressed file?
[21:31] <SirCmpwn> tabfail?
[21:31] <usr13> srikanth: Is it a package?  Or just an archive?  Or just a compressed file?
[21:32] <Success> I vote we asume its a package and he can simly tar xvf it and use .make
[21:32] <Success> because if he wants to "install" it, that seems pretty standard
[21:32] <usr13> Success: Yea, but we should urge him to use the package manager.
[21:32] <Success> usr13: true
[21:33] <Success> srikanth, so, open it with the package manager, first. then check for a README file, and do what it says
[21:33] <usr13> srikanth: If it is a package that you are about to install, you can [more-than-likely] find it in the archives, already built for your system.
[21:33] <srikanth> ok i will try it
[21:34] <usr13> srikanth: apt-cahce search <package-name-here>
[21:34] <usr13> srikanth: Or:   apt-cahce search key-word
[21:34] <srikanth> ok
[21:34] <usr13> *apt-cache
[21:35] <usr13> typo alert
[21:39] <usr13> Success: apt-cache search gimp |grep GNU
[21:39] <hilarious> i just had virtualbox vdi file disappear
[21:40] <kandinski> I am inside a chroot on my laptop running the quantal livedisc, trying to restore grub on my hd, but I don't have Internet inside the chroot (I need it to install grub). Is there anything one needs to do to have Internet access from a chroot?
[21:40] <kandinski> I have mounted proc and /devalready
[21:40] <Bawse> hola
[21:41] <kandinski> hi Bawse
[21:41] <Bawse> Hey, i was just wondering if someone could guide me toward getting the Cube effect.
[21:42] <Bawse> Could anyone Help me get the Cube effect?
[21:42] <Bawse> Last time i tried ubuntu crashed
[21:43] <Bawse> Anyone?
[21:43] <Bawse> Can anyone help guide me toward getting the cube effect?
[21:43] <kandinski> Bawse, wait a bit, people are doing their own thing too
[21:49] <Jordan_U> kandinski: You do *not* need or want to install the package named "grub", that's grub legacy. You probably already have the grub-pc package, which has grub2.
[21:49] <kandinski> Jordan_U: ah, this explains why I couldn't find menu.lst
[21:50] <Jordan_U> kandinski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[21:50] <fishbait_XXX> umm i ran compiz-check script it says i'm good to run compiz but i can't pull up compiz config settings manager it gripes about display:0 already having a window manager
[21:50] <Karlyle> hello, is there a real player-type program for linux that's enable instant downloading of flash videos on any website?
[21:50] <kandinski> Jordan_U: the release on the HD is precise, not quantal. Quantal is the livedisc. Thanks a lot
[21:50] <Karlyle> *that enables
[21:50] <Jordan_U> kandinski: You're welcome.
[21:50] <Karlyle> perhaps something superior to real player...?
[21:51] <fishbait_XXX> umm i ran compiz-check script it says i'm good to run compiz but i can't pull up compiz config settings manager it gripes about display:0 already having a window manager and it does this no matter what desktop enviroment i'm in kde gnome etc
[21:52] <hilarious> anyone think it is conceivable to retrieve a 10gb virtual box vdi file that just disappeared
[21:53] <churl> compiz is it's own window manager and has to replace the one you're in right now or you set it up to go into compiz on boot (I believe) :)
[21:53] <yeats> hilarious: define "disappeared"
[21:53] <fishbait_XXX> hilarious: depends how'd it "disappear?
[21:53] <fishbait_XXX> churl: hmm how?
[21:54] <hilarious> i restarted my computer and the file has apparently vanished from the filesystem
[21:54] <kandinski> hilarious: power down the computer, use some file analyser on the disk. Image the disk or mount it read-only. It may still be there, just unlinked from the filesystem. But unmount the disk as read/write asap.
[21:54] <hilarious> can i do this with gparted ?
[21:54] <hilarious> why the heck would this happen
[21:54] <churl> fishbait_XXX: do you mean how do you have it boot into compiz?
[21:54] <fishbait_XXX> churl: yes.
[21:55] <churl> fishbait_XXX: It's not a good idea to make it a default way to boot into it before you have it running perfectly.  That can result in not having a working window manager on startup.
[21:56] <churl> fishbait_XXX: I'm gonna restart and see if I can work on gettting mine to work and find out some helpful info for you, brb
[21:57] <kandinski> no, not gparted. a vdi is a regular file. It got deleted? Who cares why? Maybe your disk is corrupted. In any case, power down the computer now, get a livedisc and don't mount the disk where the vdi file was until you have imaged it.
[21:57] <kandinski> hilarious: this is if the vdi is valuable enough. It may not be worth your trouble.
[22:04] <blackline> Anyone here with some xmas spirit left that could consider helping me out to check if a fstab file looks "ok"?
[22:05] <yeats> blackline: what's not working?
[22:06] <Kesh> ?
[22:06] <blackline> yeats - Everythint is working but since installation my fstab looks kind of messed up (without proper space/tabs), so I'm just trying to clean it up, making it more understandable for myself.
[22:06] <scarecrow_> can any 1 recommend a good free SIP (VoIP) app for android?
[22:06] <fishbait_XXX> umm i ran compiz-check script it says i'm good to run compiz but i can't pull up compiz config settings manager it gripes about display:0 already having a window manager and it does this no matter what desktop enviroment i'm in kde gnome etc and --replace doesn't work.
[22:06] <fishbait_XXX> it complains about no default decoration found
[22:06] <veryhappy> hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 12.04.1 and i'd like to get my sound configurable separate from the headphones and not have my speaker and headphones output my sound. what do i have to do then?
[22:07] <Kesh> would someone mind helping a brotha out
[22:08] <DJones> Kesh: You need to ask your real question first, people won't know if they can help until then
[22:08] <fishbait_XXX> whats the command to reset compiz to defaults?
[22:09] <Kesh> well its a problem with installing windows it sem as if either i has some sort of trojan of something embedded
[22:09] <yeats> blackline: if you feel comfortable, pastebin it
[22:09] <yeats> !pm | blackline
[22:09] <DJones> Kesh: You may get some support for windows in ##windows this channel only supports Ubuntu
[22:10] <Kesh> cool thanks
[22:10] <blackline> yeats - This is it, after me cleaning it up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1483334/
[22:11] <blackline> yeats - and this is before i started messing around: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1483336/
[22:11] <ivotkl-88> Hello
[22:12] <ivotkl-88> I have dual boot but XP was not recognised when doing ubuntu install (or I skipped the step, I was asked to wrap it up hehe). Which would be the correct entry for the XP part?
[22:12] <ivotkl-88> Only one hard drive, running 10.04 LTS
[22:12] <veryhappy> is there any sound driver for 12.04.1 acer aspire 6930g?
[22:12] <ivotkl-88> 3 partitions
[22:12] <veryhappy> ubuntu
[22:12] <ivotkl-88> have you tried alsa?
[22:13] <veryhappy> i think i'm using pulseaudio
[22:13] <kandinski> Jordan_U: hi again from my HDD boot, thanks again.
[22:13] <ivotkl-88> veryhappy, nevermind, wrong program. That is pointingdevice, my mistake.
[22:13] <ivotkl-88> Pulseaudio should do it.
[22:13] <rump> what happens if ubuntu releases a newer package for a package i have installed via a ppa?  which gets updated
[22:13] <veryhappy> ivotkl-88: once i was told to enter a module in the module file
[22:14] <kandinski> anybody here has got the game Snapshot (from the indie bundle) running on precise?
[22:14] <kandinski> I don't get to see any graphics, and I don't know whether it's because of precise or because of Intel graphics
[22:15] <scarecrow_> does any one know of a free SIP app for android?
[22:17] <DJones> scarecrow_: Maybe ekiga could be an answer
[22:17] <yeats> blackline: main thing to know is that whitespace doesn't matter
[22:17] <veryhappy> scarecrow_: wrong channel man, 3cxphone, sipdroid
[22:17] <yeats> blackline: (except for readability)
[22:17] <veryhappy> DJones: since when is ekiga available for android dude?
[22:18] <yeats> blackline: so without knowing the particulars of your system, it looks fine to me
[22:18] <blackline> yeats - from what i can see this shouldnt make any difference except for the eye?
[22:18] <Success> guys gimp didn't open correctly, its cut off, whats the hotkey so i can put it somewhere i can see
[22:18] <Success> i can't grab it to mvoe it
[22:18] <yeats> blackline: correct - the real test is whether 'mount -a' works once it's in place
[22:18] <DJones> veryhappy: Ever since I misread the question :)
[22:18] <yeats> blackline: 'sudo mount -a', that is
[22:19] <blackline> yeats - yes i think so to but i was not 100% sure i got it right since i'm not familiar with the text and what should be there.
[22:19] <Kesh> why would my harddrive and andriod phone have the same boot files?
[22:19] <yeats> blackline: 'man fstab' for the details
[22:19] <blackline> yeats - when it comes to the /boot should that be named with id ?
[22:19] <veryhappy> DJones: see? ;) it's new year soon, so get out and drink some alcohol, party! ;)
[22:19] <blackline> yeats - it marks out from the others that way
[22:19] <fishbait_XXX> kesh becuase they both probly use grub?
[22:20] <justin_> Hey, so I am trying to get Citrix to work with my ubuntu and i am hitting an error that none of the FAQs cover
[22:20] <Kesh> so there would be windows  files hidden on my phone?
[22:20] <yeats> blackline: that's fine
[22:20]  * yeats has to go out for a bit
[22:21] <TurtleJesus> how can I make the Ubuntu 12.10 panel in UbuntuStudio?
[22:21] <OerHeks> Kesh, in c:\trash maybe ?
[22:22] <OerHeks> kesh this is ubuntu support, you are told where to ask for windows stuff
[22:22] <fishbait_XXX> kesh i don't know but i know that andriod and ubuntu are built on the same linux kernel so they might just use the same bootloader i'm just guessing here
[22:22] <blackline> yeats - sudo mount -a went well, no errors.
[22:22] <linuxthefish> !ask
[22:22] <blackline> yeats - so i guess i should be able to reboot now then :p
[22:22] <TurtleJesus> I'm used to plain Ubuntu, but just switched to UbuntuStudio. Just want it to have the same feel.
[22:25] <TurtleJesus> Can someone please help me? I'm new to Ubuntu Studio
[22:25] <fishbait_XXX> * has to go out for a bit *
[22:30] <Success> anyone know what it is?
[22:32] <Success> ... i figured it out
[22:33] <fishbait_XXX> *is back*
[22:34] <fishbait_XXX> umm i ran compiz-check script it says i'm good to run compiz but i can't pull up compiz config settings manager it gripes about display:0 already having a window manager and it does this no matter what desktop enviroment i'm in kde gnome etc and --replace doesn't work. unity-reset didn't work taking out.compiz nope, and compiz-check script says all green
[22:37] <fishbait_XXX> umm i ran compiz-check script it says i'm good to run compiz but i can't pull up compiz config settings manager it gripes about display:0 already having a window manager and it does this no matter what desktop enviroment i'm in kde gnome etc and --replace doesn't work. unity-reset didn't work taking out.compiz nope, and compiz-check script says all green can someone help me get compiz settingsw to come up
[22:38] <BluesKaj> kde doesn't need compiz , kwin takes care od composting, fishbait_XXX
[22:38] <BluesKaj> od=of
[22:39] <fishbait_XXX> BluesKaj: i'm trying to get the top left corner effect from gnome in gnome classic
[22:39] <fishbait_XXX> BluesKaj: i need compiz to do that
[22:40] <MrBushido> how do i find out the names xorg has given to my monitors? i want to restrict my wacom graphics tablet to a single screen (instead of being stretch across 2 monitors ew!) but i can't find my config file under /etc/X11/
[22:40] <BluesKaj> fishbait_XXX, I gave up on unity and gnome a long time ago ,...top left corner effect?
[22:41] <fishbait_XXX> BluesKaj: moving my mouse to the top left corner shows all the windows open in gnome 3 i don't use unity either
[22:42] <BluesKaj> fishbait_XXX, do you mean showing all open apps on one desktop m if so KDE does that effect very well , without compiz
[22:43] <fishbait_XXX> i prefer gnome classic which is why i'm leaning on compiz unless mutter does that?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> ok , to each his own
[22:46] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:47] <fishbait_XXX> lols netsplit
[22:48] <fishbait_XXX> how do i make ubuntu use gdm instead of light dm?
[22:49] <weibe_> hi
[22:49] <weibe_> in Brazil
[22:51] <fwddrev> I'm planning a ubuntu install to dual boot with widows where I also need to install two programs that write data to the bootloader-True cypt and adobe Creative suite. Ihave to encrypt the entire windwos partition and ubuntu's home drive. Last time I tried something like this I could only boot into one or the other os. Any ideas on how to approach this. Should I install everything in windows
[22:51] <fwddrev> first, encrypt the widows partician then install ubuntu?? I can't an encrypted avolume for windows, unforuntately,  so I have to use my truecypt password at boot.
[22:52] <fishbait_XXX> how do i make ubuntu use gdm instead of light dm for logins?
[22:53] <mortrca> I'm trying to get a dual monitor setup running, but I'm getting a white screen on my second monitor. What I'm experiencing is exactly like what is described in bug 885989 so I think I should be able to fix it just by applying the patch included in that report.
[22:53] <seba_> hi
[22:54] <mortrca> Unfortunately, I don't know how to apply the patch. I did try following the instructions provided there, but I am being prompted for the "File to patch:" and I don't know where or which one that is.
[23:00] <white-warrior> Happy GNU Year 2013
[23:00] <yorist> The one who made the cons
[23:00] <yorist> Thnx
[23:01] <mortrca> Can someone tell me how to apply the patch?
[23:08] <William9455> Hi there, I am new to Linux I am having the following issue with Ubuntu12.10, E: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[23:08] <William9455> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[23:08] <William9455> How can I fix this
[23:16] <otiswrong> Does anybody know if there are any problems with vinux 3.2.1 based on ubuntu 11.04 and its screen reading e.g. for the blind capabilities?
[23:18] <OerHeks> otiswrong, 11.04 is EOL and vinux is not supported here AFAIK
[23:18] <otiswrong> Where should i go for support in terms of channels then much appreciated.
[23:18] <otiswrong> channels then? Much appreciated*
[23:26] <LVLAaron> I cloned an ubuntu virtual machine, changed the mac address, and now the network doesn't start
[23:26] <LVLAaron> lspci shows the device
[23:26] <LVLAaron> what should I Do?
[23:27] <KxTwo> Hello all
[23:30] <phelipe> hello users, happy new year
[23:31] <Kilum> anyone here know how i can install this  on ubuntu 12.10  http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_Dazzle_Video_Creator_%28DVC170%29#External_Links
[23:31] <Kilum> bit of a noob when it comes to installing stuff on ubuntu
[23:31] <KxTwo> What is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d, Ive logged in with both but seen no difference?
[23:32] <jrib> KxTwo: ubuntu 2d is without compositing
[23:33] <KxTwo> where would I notice the difference?  If 2d runs faster and smoother I might as well run that
[23:33] <KxTwo> though I am thinking of trying a different DE anyway
[23:33] <Kilum> anyone here use capture device from pinnacle dazzle
[23:36] <Kilum> ?
[23:39] <Kilum> anyone here can help me out
[23:46] <nignaztic> hey
[23:47] <KxTwo> ok so im a little confused again, when i do an echo desktop session it ijust says ubuntu ?
[23:48] <zoie> hello, any idea on how to share a file from my ubuntu computer to an android 4.0 tablet?
[23:49] <DataLate_> hello
[23:52] <elf`NEW^YEAR> hello ubuntu bots
[23:53] <milamber> zoie: dropbox?
[23:54] <ron__>  hi i am using ubuntu 10.04 and want to upgrafe it to 12.10 but i dont have internet connection but i have 12.10 iso so if i upgrade from my iso file then will i loose my installed application and data please suggest me??
[23:58] <daftykins> ron__: it's new year, think you could wait a bit maybe?
[23:59] <Borillion> is there anything I can do to quickly re-install all the wireless drivers, I installed and removed compat-wireless and now I got nothing
[23:59] <William9455> Hello room, any one available for help tonight