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| Deepfriedice | Hey All! | 01:38 |
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| Deepfriedice | I'm going to ask here because I'm not sure where this could go. | 01:39 |
| Deepfriedice | I'm trying to get nvidia-experimental-304 working on a Xubuntu 12.04 laptop. | 01:40 |
| Deepfriedice | But X dies on boot up. | 01:40 |
| Deepfriedice | How would I go about getting to the bottem of this? | 01:41 |
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| well_laid_lawn | Deepfriedice: have you checked the X log? | 01:43 |
| Deepfriedice | No... | 01:43 |
| Deepfriedice | ah | 01:43 |
| Deepfriedice | I presume Xorg.0.log is the newest log file? | 01:44 |
| well_laid_lawn | yep | 01:44 |
| Deepfriedice | @24.539 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initalize thr NVIDIA kernal module. Please see the system's kernal log of ..... | 01:46 |
| Deepfriedice | can't be bothered typeing all that | 01:46 |
| well_laid_lawn | did you reboot after installing the driver/ | 01:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | there's pastes for not typing stuffs | 01:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | !paste | 01:47 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:47 |
| Deepfriedice | yeah, the driver does nothing untill the reboot, and X just doesn't go after it. | 01:48 |
| Deepfriedice | well_laid_lawn: I just checked /var/log/kern.log , there's nothing weird in there. | 01:50 |
| Deepfriedice | wait | 01:51 |
| well_laid_lawn | how old's the vid card, nvidia has two versions of the drivers now | 01:51 |
| Deepfriedice | nope, nothing odd | 01:51 |
| Deepfriedice | umm | 01:51 |
| Deepfriedice | old | 01:52 |
| well_laid_lawn | check the wiki | 01:52 |
| well_laid_lawn | !nvidia | 01:52 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 01:52 |
| Deepfriedice | it's a... G98 [GeForce 9300 GS] | 01:52 |
| Deepfriedice | according to lspci (I know very little about graphics cards) | 01:53 |
| well_laid_lawn | that should use the 304 driver afaik | 01:53 |
| joe | I'm having issues with applications crashing very often, generally after the screenlock occurs from being idle for a while. Is this common or should I just figure that it's due to old hardware? Or> is there some kind of debug that needs to be ran? | 01:56 |
| Deepfriedice | well_laid_lawn: I can't find anything wrong in kern.log , are there any other places to look? | 01:58 |
| Deepfriedice | What would happen if say, some hypothetical person who is not me ran out of disk space while installing a nvidia driver? | 02:21 |
| Deepfriedice | ANYONE: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-35-generic no space left on device | 02:27 |
| Deepfriedice | ANYONE help? | 02:28 |
| Deepfriedice | HELP? | 02:39 |
| Deepfriedice | I've cleared almost 3GB of stuff off my hard drive, but I still get initramfs-tools complaining about the lack of space! | 02:40 |
| Deepfriedice | and with /boot/ fucked up, I'm not confident to reboot. | 02:40 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: try and watch the language | 02:42 |
| * holstein looking | 02:42 | |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: is the disk full? | 02:42 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: maybe just boot another kernel, and run "sudo apt-get udpate" in a terminal and see what the errors are | 02:43 |
| Deepfriedice | holstein: Sorry about the language. | 02:44 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: no worries.. any errors there? | 02:44 |
| Deepfriedice | holstein: this disk WAS full, but it shouldn't be now. And I can't run a pakage list update - I don't have networking | 02:45 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: i would want to use a package manager to see what is broken | 02:46 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: looks to me like you have broken packages | 02:46 |
| Deepfriedice | aptitude disagrees | 02:46 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: then enjoy your completly fine system | 02:46 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: can you get online with that box? and update the cache? | 02:47 |
| Deepfriedice | um, should I start at the beginning again, or was that a joke I missed? | 02:47 |
| Deepfriedice | I don't think I can get online, but I can try | 02:48 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: feel free to start anywhere you feel relevant information might help me or one of the other volunteers assist you | 02:48 |
| Deepfriedice | okay. | 02:48 |
| Deepfriedice | I was trying to get the steam beat running on Xubuntu 12.04 | 02:49 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: what do i see? you installed a driver.. a kernel module, and the hard drive was full.. i would want to see that that gets reinstalled | 02:49 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: i dont know what "steambeat" is.. but we can get that kernel error fixed | 02:49 |
| Deepfriedice | what, the driver or the whole system? | 02:49 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: either | 02:49 |
| Deepfriedice | I still have the old nvidia driver | 02:49 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: i would think if you would hook it up, and open synaptic,, and do "fix broken pacakges" you might just fix everything | 02:50 |
| Deepfriedice | if I can fix whatever is causeing apt-get remove to fail and run initramfs-tools | 02:50 |
| holstein | OR,, run sudo apt-get update in the terminal as suggested and see if there is any error outpu | 02:50 |
| Deepfriedice | I still don't have networking | 02:50 |
| holstein | what would i do? just reinstall and dont let my hard driver get full | 02:50 |
| Deepfriedice | yeah | 02:51 |
| Deepfriedice | Thats looking like a good option right now | 02:51 |
| holstein | that would take about 8 minutes.. whatever you need to do could take who knows how long to figure out what you did | 02:51 |
| Deepfriedice | still, If I can fix apt-get remove I could have this thing booting normal on the old kernal | 02:51 |
| holstein | yup.. if you dont have your data backedup , take this opportunity to do so, and reinstall.. think about imaging or backing up and be careful adding PPA's and/or kernel modules | 02:52 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: sure.. i would get it online.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and report the error output and we can go from there | 02:52 |
| Deepfriedice | don't really need a backup, nothing important is on that laptop | 02:52 |
| Deepfriedice | okay | 02:52 |
| holstein | then blow it out and take the path of least resistance | 02:53 |
| Deepfriedice | holstein, I would, but that would break the Win install on there | 02:54 |
| Deepfriedice | and while re-installing Xubuntu is a trivial task, Vista isn't. | 02:55 |
| Deepfriedice | so, networking | 02:55 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: well, take this as an opportunity to plan for that. when that hard drive fais it will break windows on there | 02:55 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: you can blow out ubuntu and not mess up windoes | 02:56 |
| Deepfriedice | I tough it was the other way round... | 02:56 |
| Deepfriedice | hmm | 02:56 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: you open a gparted from a live CD.. remove the linux partitions.. start an installer, and use the empty space to install xubntu to | 02:56 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: when you install windows on the remaining space on a linux system, it installs a bootloader that assumes its the only OS | 02:57 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: xubuntu will install grub again, which will find windows, and the xubuntu install | 02:57 |
| Deepfriedice | If I'm going to do that, I may as well reboot and see if the fixes the "no space on device" errors | 02:58 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: maybe you need more space on the device | 02:58 |
| Deepfriedice | I have 2.8GB free right now | 02:58 |
| holstein | maybe you should back up your data, and shrink the ntfs partition down a bit more to give more room for linux | 02:58 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: i would want 6gb's minimum | 02:59 |
| holstein | 10 would be ideal.. | 02:59 |
| Deepfriedice | what free? | 02:59 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: total | 02:59 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: its not a matter of what you have free now.. its a matter of what wasnt free when you didnt have enough space for package management | 02:59 |
| Deepfriedice | hmm | 03:00 |
| Deepfriedice | wait, It just booted up properly | 03:00 |
| holstein | sure.. with an older kernel? thats what i would do | 03:01 |
| holstein | boot an earlier kernel.. run sudo apt-get update.. troubleshoot any errors | 03:01 |
| Deepfriedice | nope, same kernal | 03:01 |
| Deepfriedice | I have no idea how, but it seems semi-okay | 03:01 |
| holstein | well, like i said, if nothing is wrong, just enjoy it | 03:02 |
| Deepfriedice | well, it's not quite right | 03:03 |
| holstein | sure.. which gets back to either troubleshooting the errors, or reinstalling | 03:03 |
| Deepfriedice | hang on | 03:04 |
| Deepfriedice | update-initramfs just re-gened initrd | 03:04 |
| holstein | if it were me, i would want to reinstall whatever i was installing when it ran out of space | 03:05 |
| holstein | steam is officially supported on ubuntu 12.04 | 03:06 |
| Deepfriedice | really? | 03:06 |
| Deepfriedice | huh | 03:06 |
| holstein | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve is what i would reference | 03:06 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: you can run it on 12.10, ive heard, but if you are having issues.. since we cant support steam here | 03:06 |
| Deepfriedice | BRB | 03:07 |
| Deepfriedice | rebooting | 03:12 |
| Deepfriedice | It works | 03:13 |
| Deepfriedice | my clock got set to date-time mode, but otherwise it works | 03:13 |
| Deepfriedice | and steam seem st work as well | 03:14 |
| Deepfriedice | holstein: thank you very much for the help, and I'll shift my partitions around to get some more space. | 03:16 |
| holstein | Deepfriedice: enjoy! | 03:18 |
| Deepfriedice | holstein: will do. | 03:18 |
| bryong | Hello can anyone help me install a wireless card on Ubuntu, I am new to this and am having issues | 04:05 |
| bryong | Please | 04:05 |
| holstein | bryong: maybe... do you know what it is? are you online with the machine now via a wired connection? can you connect via wired if not? | 04:05 |
| bryong | It is a WF-2117 wireless card and yes I have a wired connection | 04:06 |
| bryong | And I am on that machine via wired | 04:07 |
| holstein | bryong: can you return that card? | 04:11 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2019516 might help.. i woud just try a windows driver with ndis wrapper | 04:11 |
| bryong | Yes, but it a 30 min drive each way to the store and the next one up is 20 $ more and for me that allot so I am hoping to make use of it :) | 04:12 |
| holstein | bryong: i would say, that would be well worth the $20 and the 30 minutes | 04:12 |
| holstein | bryong: and do your research *before* buying hardware | 04:12 |
| bryong | it deisigned for a windows machine but my older brother got mad and refused to install windows 7 so now I am trying to install Ubuntu. | 04:13 |
| holstein | bryong: that being said, i would try an XP driver with ndisgtk , or try the above post. | 04:14 |
| holstein | bryong: mad? its not "designed" for any machine.. its a device and the manufacturer has created a driver for windows and not for linux | 04:15 |
| bryong | Also -I hand made this computer for my little brother. And I went all out and got him what I consider a great graphics card and it not working either. | 04:15 |
| holstein | bryong: you can ask the manufacturer to create a driver for linux just as they have for windows but they likely wont if they havent alreayd | 04:15 |
| holstein | bryong: sure.. same with the graphics | 04:15 |
| holstein | bryong: if you want to run linux, its a good idea to get supported hardware | 04:16 |
| bryong | :( there nothing I can do? | 04:16 |
| holstein | bryong: i like resellers like system76.. even if you dont by the hardware there, you can get an idea of what will work | 04:16 |
| bryong | for the graphics card? | 04:16 |
| holstein | bryong: i search and search and google and read and test and save reciepts when i buy hardware for linux | 04:17 |
| holstein | bryong: there is *always* something to do with FOSS | 04:17 |
| holstein | bryong: but either we are allowed to support the hardware, or not | 04:17 |
| holstein | bryong: the drivers for your deivces are not in windows either.. nor apples OSX | 04:17 |
| bryong | What about a GeForce graphics card? | 04:17 |
| holstein | bryong: you are expecting a lot for linux.. and usually we can support all hardare, but not always | 04:18 |
| holstein | bryong: i have both nvidia and ati cards that work well, but it really depends on the model | 04:18 |
| holstein | bryong: intel is typically well supported out of the box.. but support for ati and nvidia are getting better since steam is here for linux | 04:19 |
| holstein | !ati | bryong | 04:19 |
| ubottu | bryong: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 04:19 |
| holstein | if you havent tried the proprietary driver for your hardare, try that bryong | 04:19 |
| bryong | Okay thank you. | 04:19 |
| holstein | bryong: as for the wifi card, you can try ndiswrapper as i suggested above with a windows driver | 04:19 |
| holstein | bryong: or read the post from the forum i linked with another user with that hardware | 04:20 |
| bryong | How do I do that? | 04:20 |
| bryong | what ndiswrapper? | 04:20 |
| holstein | bryong: my using the application i suggested... ndisgtk | 04:21 |
| holstein | and the windows XP driver as i suggested above | 04:21 |
| bryong | Well I can look into all the stuff you have shown me thank you. | 04:21 |
| holstein | bryong: i would literally install the application above.. ndisgtk.. then use it to point to the windows .ini file | 04:22 |
| holstein | ndisgtk is a GUI application that points ndiswrapper to a windows driver for your wifi device | 04:22 |
| bryong | Okay will do. | 04:23 |
| holstein | i suggest trying the windows driver for xp 32bit... if its in a blob like a .zip or an .exe, you'll have to get it out. the .ini file | 04:23 |
| bryong | how do you get the .ini file? | 04:24 |
| holstein | bryong: sometimes, thats what you get | 04:24 |
| holstein | bryong: it depends on the vendor and where you get those drivers | 04:25 |
| holstein | bryong: im just telling you what the ndisgtk application needs, so you dont point it to a file named "driver.exe" and think its broken | 04:25 |
| holstein | you need the actual driver.. the *.ini file | 04:25 |
| bryong | cd and I am installing the cd reader into my computer riught now | 04:26 |
| holstein | bryong: you should be able to get that online if you'd like to check right now | 04:26 |
| bryong | sure it says it website is www,netis-systems.com | 04:27 |
| bryong | on the cd | 04:27 |
| holstein | bryong: so, go to that site, download the xp driver, get the *.ini and give it to ndisgtk... or wait til you can read the cd | 04:27 |
| bryong | OK doing that right now | 04:28 |
| bryong | got a exe file | 04:29 |
| holstein | sure.. so you an open that from a windows box, or run that in wine and get the files to extract.. or try just extracting them | 04:30 |
| holstein | OR return it, spend the $20, and enjoy supported hardware | 04:30 |
| bryong | I am installing wine :() | 04:34 |
| bryong | :) * | 04:34 |
| bryong | Okay it will simulate the .exe file in wine but it won't let me open the file and pull files out of the .exe | 04:38 |
| holstein | bryong: depends on what "it" is.. its just a file though, try ad extract it | 04:40 |
| holstein | and* | 04:40 |
| bryong | I try to open the .exe with file manager and | 04:41 |
| bryong | Archive: /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe | 04:41 |
| bryong | [/home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe] | 04:41 |
| bryong | End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not | 04:41 |
| bryong | a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the | 04:41 |
| bryong | latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on | 04:41 |
| bryong | the last disk(s) of this archive. | 04:41 |
| bryong | zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe or | 04:41 |
| bryong | /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.zip, and cannot find /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.ZIP, period. | 04:41 |
| bryong | I get this error message | 04:41 |
| holstein | !paste | bryong | 04:41 |
| ubottu | bryong: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 04:41 |
| holstein | i usually run in a terminal "wine /path/to/*.exe" | 04:42 |
| holstein | sometimes, i just right click them and see if they extract | 04:42 |
| holstein | bryong: you can always email the vendor and ask for the *.dll file | 04:42 |
| bryong | this | 04:43 |
| bryong | Okay well thank you very much for the help I am going to go to bed. | 04:43 |
| bryong | by | 04:43 |
| bryong | Happy new year by the way | 04:44 |
| holstein | bryong: cheers | 04:44 |
| far3 | I'm liking this linux, I was forced to switch over when I ereased my win7 partition by accident haha | 06:12 |
| === rywilly is now known as _______ | ||
| GrandCouillon | Hello guys ! Even if I've disabled the screensaver it continues to be active ... Searching the net around seems to indicate that I am alone. Any clue ? | 09:46 |
| Ironsight | Anyone had any issues dual booting windows 8 and xubuntu? | 10:10 |
| TheSheep | Ironsight: afaik windows 8 will not boot from a non-secure uefi bios, and xubuntu won't boot from a secure one | 10:12 |
| TheSheep | Ironsight: but my information may be outdated | 10:12 |
| Ironsight | man :( | 10:12 |
| Ironsight | I don't even know what bios I'm rocking in this asus g75 :/ | 10:13 |
| TheSheep | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot | 10:13 |
| Ironsight | TheSheep, wow, thanks man :D | 10:16 |
| olbi | hello | 11:52 |
| olbi | some1 could tell me how I could change the xubuntu slideshow files and than add this to my own remix? | 11:52 |
| Sybille | hi :) | 12:17 |
| bjaniolsen | Hi, just joined | 12:17 |
| Sybille | I have a big problem with an eeepc 1015 cx and xubuntu 12.04 | 12:17 |
| Sybille | I cannot have other display than 800x600 | 12:18 |
| bjaniolsen | Is it a driver problem? | 12:18 |
| Sybille | There is a cedar view drier but when I download it | 12:18 |
| Sybille | nothing works anymore | 12:18 |
| bjaniolsen | I'm a newbii on driver problems, sorry. | 12:19 |
| Sybille | thanks :) | 12:19 |
| olbi | hmm, I was using build in drivers with Xubuntu 11.10 and all was good. I have 1024x600 which is normal resolution | 12:25 |
| Sybille | what do you mean, what did you ? | 12:25 |
| wonderworld | hi, i am on xubuntu 12.10 and want to restart my xserver by keystroke. it used to work with CTRL-ALT-SYSreq-K but this seems to be disabled in 12.10 | 12:27 |
| TheSheep | wonderworld: you can enable it | 12:28 |
| TheSheep | wonderworld: with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' | 12:28 |
| wonderworld | hey thanks | 12:29 |
| wonderworld | this worked :) nice | 12:30 |
| xubuntu538 | I don't remember setting any password during setup, but now when I try and install a program, I'm being asked for authentication | 15:53 |
| march | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVd_VLO9xcc | 18:14 |
| march | Ooops - posted on the wrong channel. Sorry. | 18:34 |
| viszu | Hi, after upgrading xfce4-terminal to ver 0.6.0 today my terminal is not working I get: *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' error, any known way how to fix it ? | 18:41 |
| holstein | viszu: how did you upgrade? in the repos? | 19:05 |
| viszu | holsen: with Software Updater, but nvm I just fixed it | 19:06 |
| viszu | "Reset compatibility options to defaults" in compatibility menu of xfce4-terminal fixed it | 19:07 |
| holstein | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/140011 is what i would reference if reinstalling doesnt fix | 19:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 140011 in vte (Ubuntu) "Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap'" [Low,Confirmed] | 19:07 |
| viszu | I was reading that, and my system already had those links | 19:08 |
| viszu | it breaks when I change $TERM setting to "xterm-256color" but it works with "xterm" | 19:10 |
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