[01:38] <Deepfriedice> Hey All!
[01:39] <Deepfriedice> I'm going to ask here because I'm not sure where this could go.
[01:40] <Deepfriedice> I'm trying to get nvidia-experimental-304 working on a Xubuntu 12.04 laptop.
[01:40] <Deepfriedice> But X dies on boot up.
[01:41] <Deepfriedice> How would I go about getting to the bottem of this?
[01:43] <well_laid_lawn> Deepfriedice:  have you checked the X log?
[01:43] <Deepfriedice> No...
[01:43] <Deepfriedice> ah
[01:44] <Deepfriedice> I presume Xorg.0.log is the newest log file?
[01:44] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[01:46] <Deepfriedice>  @24.539 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initalize thr NVIDIA kernal module. Please see the system's kernal log of .....
[01:46] <Deepfriedice> can't be bothered typeing all that
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> did you reboot after installing the driver/
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> there's pastes for not typing stuffs
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[01:48] <Deepfriedice> yeah, the driver does nothing untill the reboot, and X just doesn't go after it.
[01:50] <Deepfriedice> well_laid_lawn:  I just checked /var/log/kern.log , there's nothing weird in there.
[01:51] <Deepfriedice> wait
[01:51] <well_laid_lawn> how old's the vid card, nvidia has two versions of the drivers now
[01:51] <Deepfriedice> nope, nothing odd
[01:51] <Deepfriedice> umm
[01:52] <Deepfriedice> old
[01:52] <well_laid_lawn> check the wiki
[01:52] <well_laid_lawn> !nvidia
[01:52] <Deepfriedice> it's a... G98 [GeForce 9300 GS]
[01:53] <Deepfriedice> according to lspci  (I know very little about graphics cards)
[01:53] <well_laid_lawn> that should use the 304 driver afaik
[01:56] <joe> I'm having issues with applications crashing very often, generally after the screenlock occurs from being idle for a while. Is this common or should I just figure that it's due to old hardware? Or> is there some kind of debug that needs to be ran?
[01:58] <Deepfriedice> well_laid_lawn: I can't find anything wrong in kern.log ,  are there any other places to look?
[02:21] <Deepfriedice> What would happen if say, some hypothetical person who is not me ran out of disk space while installing a nvidia driver?
[02:27] <Deepfriedice> ANYONE: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-35-generic     no space left on device
[02:28] <Deepfriedice> ANYONE help?
[02:39] <Deepfriedice> HELP?
[02:40] <Deepfriedice> I've cleared almost 3GB of stuff off my hard drive, but I still get initramfs-tools complaining about the lack of space!
[02:40] <Deepfriedice> and with /boot/ fucked up, I'm not confident to reboot.
[02:42] <holstein> Deepfriedice: try and watch the language
[02:42]  * holstein looking
[02:42] <holstein> Deepfriedice: is the disk full?
[02:43] <holstein> Deepfriedice: maybe just boot another kernel, and run "sudo apt-get udpate" in a terminal and see what the errors are
[02:44] <Deepfriedice> holstein: Sorry about the language.
[02:44] <holstein> Deepfriedice: no worries.. any errors there?
[02:45] <Deepfriedice> holstein: this disk WAS full, but it shouldn't be now. And I can't run a pakage list update - I don't have networking
[02:46] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i would want to use a package manager to see what is broken
[02:46] <holstein> Deepfriedice: looks to me like you have broken packages
[02:46] <Deepfriedice> aptitude disagrees
[02:46] <holstein> Deepfriedice: then enjoy your completly fine system
[02:47] <holstein> Deepfriedice: can you get online with that box? and update the cache?
[02:47] <Deepfriedice> um, should I start at the beginning again, or was that a joke I missed?
[02:48] <Deepfriedice> I don't think I can get online, but I can try
[02:48] <holstein> Deepfriedice: feel free to start anywhere you feel relevant information might help me or one of the other volunteers assist you
[02:48] <Deepfriedice> okay.
[02:49] <Deepfriedice> I was trying to get the steam beat running on Xubuntu 12.04
[02:49] <holstein> Deepfriedice: what do i see? you installed a driver.. a kernel module, and the hard drive was full.. i would want to see that that gets reinstalled
[02:49] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i dont know what "steambeat" is.. but we can get that kernel error fixed
[02:49] <Deepfriedice> what, the driver or the whole system?
[02:49] <holstein> Deepfriedice: either
[02:49] <Deepfriedice> I still have the old nvidia driver
[02:50] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i would think if you would hook it up, and open synaptic,, and do "fix broken pacakges" you might just fix everything
[02:50] <Deepfriedice> if I can fix whatever is causeing apt-get remove to fail and run initramfs-tools
[02:50] <holstein> OR,, run sudo apt-get update in the terminal as suggested and see if there is any error outpu
[02:50] <Deepfriedice> I still don't have networking
[02:50] <holstein> what would i do? just reinstall and dont let my hard driver get full
[02:51] <Deepfriedice> yeah
[02:51] <Deepfriedice> Thats looking like a good option right now
[02:51] <holstein> that would take about 8 minutes.. whatever you need to do could take who knows how long to figure out what you did
[02:51] <Deepfriedice> still, If I can fix apt-get remove I could have this thing booting normal on the old kernal
[02:52] <holstein> yup.. if you dont have your data backedup , take this opportunity to do so, and reinstall.. think about imaging or backing up and be careful adding PPA's and/or kernel modules
[02:52] <holstein> Deepfriedice: sure.. i would get it online.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and report the error output and we can go from there
[02:52] <Deepfriedice> don't really need a backup, nothing important is on that laptop
[02:52] <Deepfriedice> okay
[02:53] <holstein> then blow it out and take the path of least resistance
[02:54] <Deepfriedice> holstein, I would, but that would break the Win install on there
[02:55] <Deepfriedice> and while re-installing Xubuntu is a trivial task, Vista isn't.
[02:55] <Deepfriedice> so, networking
[02:55] <holstein> Deepfriedice: well, take this as an opportunity to plan for that. when that hard drive fais it will break windows on there
[02:56] <holstein> Deepfriedice: you can blow out ubuntu and not mess up windoes
[02:56] <Deepfriedice> I tough it was the other way round...
[02:56] <Deepfriedice> hmm
[02:56] <holstein> Deepfriedice: you open a gparted from a live CD.. remove the linux partitions.. start an installer, and use the empty space to install xubntu to
[02:57] <holstein> Deepfriedice: when you install windows on the remaining space on a linux system, it installs a bootloader that assumes its the only OS
[02:57] <holstein> Deepfriedice: xubuntu will install grub again, which will find windows, and the xubuntu install
[02:58] <Deepfriedice> If I'm going to do that, I may as well reboot and see if the fixes the "no space on device" errors
[02:58] <holstein> Deepfriedice: maybe you need more space on the device
[02:58] <Deepfriedice> I have 2.8GB free right now
[02:58] <holstein> maybe you should back up your data, and shrink the ntfs partition down a bit more to give more room for linux
[02:59] <holstein> Deepfriedice: i would want 6gb's minimum
[02:59] <holstein> 10 would be ideal..
[02:59] <Deepfriedice> what free?
[02:59] <holstein> Deepfriedice: total
[02:59] <holstein> Deepfriedice: its not a matter of what you have free now.. its a matter of what wasnt free when you didnt have enough space for package management
[03:00] <Deepfriedice> hmm
[03:00] <Deepfriedice> wait, It just booted up properly
[03:01] <holstein> sure.. with an older kernel? thats what i would do
[03:01] <holstein> boot an earlier kernel.. run sudo apt-get update.. troubleshoot any errors
[03:01] <Deepfriedice> nope, same kernal
[03:01] <Deepfriedice> I have no idea how, but it seems semi-okay
[03:02] <holstein> well, like i said, if nothing is wrong, just enjoy it
[03:03] <Deepfriedice> well, it's not quite right
[03:03] <holstein> sure.. which gets back to either troubleshooting the errors, or reinstalling
[03:04] <Deepfriedice> hang on
[03:04] <Deepfriedice> update-initramfs just re-gened initrd
[03:05] <holstein> if it were me, i would want to reinstall whatever i was installing when it ran out of space
[03:06] <holstein> steam is officially supported on ubuntu 12.04
[03:06] <Deepfriedice> really?
[03:06] <Deepfriedice> huh
[03:06] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve is what i would reference
[03:06] <holstein> Deepfriedice: you can run it on 12.10, ive heard, but if you are having issues.. since we cant support steam here
[03:07] <Deepfriedice> BRB
[03:12] <Deepfriedice> rebooting
[03:13] <Deepfriedice> It works
[03:13] <Deepfriedice> my clock got set to date-time mode, but otherwise it works
[03:14] <Deepfriedice> and steam seem st work as well
[03:16] <Deepfriedice> holstein: thank you very much for the help, and I'll shift my partitions around to get some more space.
[03:18] <holstein> Deepfriedice: enjoy!
[03:18] <Deepfriedice> holstein: will do.
[04:05] <bryong> Hello can anyone help me install a wireless card on Ubuntu, I am new to this and am having issues
[04:05] <bryong> Please
[04:05] <holstein> bryong: maybe... do you know what it is? are you online with the machine now via a wired connection? can you connect via wired if not?
[04:06] <bryong> It is a WF-2117 wireless card and yes I have a wired connection
[04:07] <bryong> And I am on that machine via wired
[04:11] <holstein> bryong: can you return that card?
[04:11] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2019516 might help.. i woud just try a windows driver with ndis wrapper
[04:12] <bryong> Yes, but it a 30 min drive each way to the store and the next one up is 20 $ more and for me that allot so I am hoping to make use of it :)
[04:12] <holstein> bryong: i would say, that would be well worth the $20 and the 30 minutes
[04:12] <holstein> bryong: and do your research *before* buying hardware
[04:13] <bryong> it deisigned for a windows machine but my older brother got mad and refused to install windows 7 so now I am trying to install Ubuntu.
[04:14] <holstein> bryong: that being said, i would try an XP driver with ndisgtk , or try the above post.
[04:15] <holstein> bryong: mad? its not "designed" for any machine.. its a device and the manufacturer has created a driver for windows and not for linux
[04:15] <bryong> Also -I hand made this computer for my little brother. And I went all out and got him what I consider a great graphics card and it not working either.
[04:15] <holstein> bryong: you can ask the manufacturer to create a driver for linux just as they have for windows but they likely wont if they havent alreayd
[04:15] <holstein> bryong: sure.. same with the graphics
[04:16] <holstein> bryong: if you want to run linux, its a good idea to get supported hardware
[04:16] <bryong> :( there nothing I can do?
[04:16] <holstein> bryong: i like resellers like system76.. even if you dont by the hardware there, you can get an idea of what will work
[04:16] <bryong> for the graphics card?
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: i search and search and google and read and test and save reciepts when i buy hardware for linux
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: there is *always* something to do with FOSS
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: but either we are allowed to support the hardware, or not
[04:17] <holstein> bryong: the drivers for your deivces are not in windows either.. nor apples OSX
[04:17] <bryong> What about a GeForce graphics card?
[04:18] <holstein> bryong: you are expecting a lot for linux.. and usually we can support all hardare, but not always
[04:18] <holstein> bryong: i have both nvidia and ati cards that work well, but it really depends on the model
[04:19] <holstein> bryong: intel is typically well supported out of the box.. but support for ati and nvidia are getting better since steam is here for linux
[04:19] <holstein> !ati | bryong
[04:19] <holstein> if you havent tried the proprietary driver for your hardare, try that bryong
[04:19] <bryong> Okay thank you.
[04:19] <holstein> bryong: as for the wifi card, you can try ndiswrapper as i suggested above with a windows driver
[04:20] <holstein> bryong: or read the post from the forum i linked with another user with that hardware
[04:20] <bryong> How do I do that?
[04:20] <bryong> what ndiswrapper?
[04:21] <holstein> bryong: my using the application i suggested... ndisgtk
[04:21] <holstein> and the windows XP driver as i suggested above
[04:21] <bryong> Well I can look into all the stuff you have shown me thank you.
[04:22] <holstein> bryong: i would literally install the application above.. ndisgtk.. then use it to point to the windows .ini file
[04:22] <holstein> ndisgtk is a GUI application that points ndiswrapper to a windows driver for your wifi device
[04:23] <bryong> Okay will do.
[04:23] <holstein> i suggest trying the windows driver for xp 32bit... if its in a blob like a .zip or an .exe, you'll have to get it out. the .ini file
[04:24] <bryong> how do you get the .ini file?
[04:24] <holstein> bryong: sometimes, thats what you get
[04:25] <holstein> bryong: it depends on the vendor and where you get those drivers
[04:25] <holstein> bryong: im just telling you what the ndisgtk application needs, so you dont point it to a file named "driver.exe" and think its broken
[04:25] <holstein> you need the actual driver.. the *.ini file
[04:26] <bryong> cd and I am installing the cd reader into my computer riught now
[04:26] <holstein> bryong: you should be able to get that online if you'd like to check right now
[04:27] <bryong> sure it says it website is www,netis-systems.com
[04:27] <bryong> on the cd
[04:27] <holstein> bryong: so, go to that site, download the xp driver, get the *.ini and give it to ndisgtk... or wait til you can read the cd
[04:28] <bryong> OK doing that right now
[04:29] <bryong> got a exe file
[04:30] <holstein> sure.. so you an open that from a windows box, or run that in wine and get the files to extract.. or try just extracting them
[04:30] <holstein> OR return it, spend the $20, and enjoy supported hardware
[04:34] <bryong> I am installing wine :()
[04:34] <bryong> :) *
[04:38] <bryong> Okay it will simulate the .exe file in wine but it won't let me open the file and pull files out of the .exe
[04:40] <holstein> bryong: depends on what "it" is.. its just a file though, try ad extract it
[04:40] <holstein> and*
[04:41] <bryong> I try to open the .exe with file manager and
[04:41] <bryong> Archive:  /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe
[04:41] <bryong> [/home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe]
[04:41] <bryong>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[04:41] <bryong>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[04:41] <bryong>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[04:41] <bryong>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[04:41] <bryong> zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe or
[04:41] <bryong>           /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.zip, and cannot find /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.ZIP, period.
[04:41] <bryong> I get this error message
[04:41] <holstein> !paste | bryong
[04:42] <holstein> i usually run in a terminal "wine /path/to/*.exe"
[04:42] <holstein> sometimes, i just right click them and see if they extract
[04:42] <holstein> bryong: you can always email the vendor and ask for the *.dll file
[04:43] <bryong> this
[04:43] <bryong> Okay well thank you very much for the help I am going to go to bed.
[04:43] <bryong> by
[04:44] <bryong> Happy new year by the way
[04:44] <holstein> bryong: cheers
[06:12] <far3> I'm liking this linux, I was forced to switch over when I ereased my win7 partition by accident haha
[09:46] <GrandCouillon> Hello guys ! Even if I've disabled the screensaver it continues to be active ... Searching the net around seems to indicate that I am alone. Any clue ?
[10:10] <Ironsight> Anyone had any issues dual booting windows 8 and xubuntu?
[10:12] <TheSheep> Ironsight: afaik windows 8 will not boot from a non-secure uefi bios, and xubuntu won't boot from a secure one
[10:12] <TheSheep> Ironsight: but my information may be outdated
[10:12] <Ironsight> man :(
[10:13] <Ironsight> I don't even know what bios I'm rocking in this asus g75 :/
[10:13] <TheSheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[10:16] <Ironsight> TheSheep, wow, thanks man :D
[11:52] <olbi> hello
[11:52] <olbi> some1 could tell me how I could change the xubuntu slideshow files and than add this to my own remix?
[12:17] <Sybille> hi :)
[12:17] <bjaniolsen> Hi, just joined
[12:17] <Sybille> I have a big problem with an eeepc 1015 cx and xubuntu 12.04
[12:18] <Sybille> I cannot have other display than 800x600
[12:18] <bjaniolsen> Is it a driver problem?
[12:18] <Sybille> There is a cedar view drier but when I download it
[12:18] <Sybille> nothing works anymore
[12:19] <bjaniolsen> I'm a newbii on driver problems, sorry.
[12:19] <Sybille> thanks :)
[12:25] <olbi> hmm, I was using build in drivers with Xubuntu 11.10 and all was good. I have 1024x600 which is normal resolution
[12:25] <Sybille> what do you mean, what did you ?
[12:27] <wonderworld> hi, i am on xubuntu 12.10 and want to restart my xserver by keystroke. it used to work with CTRL-ALT-SYSreq-K but this seems to be disabled in 12.10
[12:28] <TheSheep> wonderworld: you can enable it
[12:28] <TheSheep> wonderworld: with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'
[12:29] <wonderworld> hey thanks
[12:30] <wonderworld> this worked :) nice
[15:53] <xubuntu538> I don't remember setting any password during setup, but now when I try and install a program, I'm being asked for authentication
[18:14] <march> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVd_VLO9xcc
[18:34] <march> Ooops - posted on the wrong channel. Sorry.
[18:41] <viszu> Hi, after upgrading xfce4-terminal to ver 0.6.0 today my terminal is not working I get: *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' error, any known way how to fix it ?
[19:05] <holstein> viszu: how did you upgrade? in the repos?
[19:06] <viszu> holsen: with Software Updater, but nvm I just fixed it
[19:07] <viszu> "Reset compatibility options to defaults" in compatibility menu of xfce4-terminal fixed it
[19:07] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/140011 is what i would reference if reinstalling doesnt fix
[19:08] <viszu> I was reading that, and my system already had those links
[19:10] <viszu> it breaks when I change $TERM setting to "xterm-256color" but it works with "xterm"