=== Jackson is now known as Guest7797 === toga_ is now known as toga [01:38] Hey All! [01:39] I'm going to ask here because I'm not sure where this could go. [01:40] I'm trying to get nvidia-experimental-304 working on a Xubuntu 12.04 laptop. [01:40] But X dies on boot up. [01:41] How would I go about getting to the bottem of this? === Guest7797 is now known as Noskcaj [01:43] Deepfriedice: have you checked the X log? [01:43] No... [01:43] ah [01:44] I presume Xorg.0.log is the newest log file? [01:44] yep [01:46] @24.539 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initalize thr NVIDIA kernal module. Please see the system's kernal log of ..... [01:46] can't be bothered typeing all that [01:47] did you reboot after installing the driver/ [01:47] there's pastes for not typing stuffs [01:47] !paste [01:47] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:48] yeah, the driver does nothing untill the reboot, and X just doesn't go after it. [01:50] well_laid_lawn: I just checked /var/log/kern.log , there's nothing weird in there. [01:51] wait [01:51] how old's the vid card, nvidia has two versions of the drivers now [01:51] nope, nothing odd [01:51] umm [01:52] old [01:52] check the wiki [01:52] !nvidia [01:52] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [01:52] it's a... G98 [GeForce 9300 GS] [01:53] according to lspci (I know very little about graphics cards) [01:53] that should use the 304 driver afaik [01:56] I'm having issues with applications crashing very often, generally after the screenlock occurs from being idle for a while. Is this common or should I just figure that it's due to old hardware? Or> is there some kind of debug that needs to be ran? [01:58] well_laid_lawn: I can't find anything wrong in kern.log , are there any other places to look? [02:21] What would happen if say, some hypothetical person who is not me ran out of disk space while installing a nvidia driver? [02:27] ANYONE: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-35-generic no space left on device [02:28] ANYONE help? [02:39] HELP? [02:40] I've cleared almost 3GB of stuff off my hard drive, but I still get initramfs-tools complaining about the lack of space! [02:40] and with /boot/ fucked up, I'm not confident to reboot. [02:42] Deepfriedice: try and watch the language [02:42] * holstein looking [02:42] Deepfriedice: is the disk full? [02:43] Deepfriedice: maybe just boot another kernel, and run "sudo apt-get udpate" in a terminal and see what the errors are [02:44] holstein: Sorry about the language. [02:44] Deepfriedice: no worries.. any errors there? [02:45] holstein: this disk WAS full, but it shouldn't be now. And I can't run a pakage list update - I don't have networking [02:46] Deepfriedice: i would want to use a package manager to see what is broken [02:46] Deepfriedice: looks to me like you have broken packages [02:46] aptitude disagrees [02:46] Deepfriedice: then enjoy your completly fine system [02:47] Deepfriedice: can you get online with that box? and update the cache? [02:47] um, should I start at the beginning again, or was that a joke I missed? [02:48] I don't think I can get online, but I can try [02:48] Deepfriedice: feel free to start anywhere you feel relevant information might help me or one of the other volunteers assist you [02:48] okay. [02:49] I was trying to get the steam beat running on Xubuntu 12.04 [02:49] Deepfriedice: what do i see? you installed a driver.. a kernel module, and the hard drive was full.. i would want to see that that gets reinstalled [02:49] Deepfriedice: i dont know what "steambeat" is.. but we can get that kernel error fixed [02:49] what, the driver or the whole system? [02:49] Deepfriedice: either [02:49] I still have the old nvidia driver [02:50] Deepfriedice: i would think if you would hook it up, and open synaptic,, and do "fix broken pacakges" you might just fix everything [02:50] if I can fix whatever is causeing apt-get remove to fail and run initramfs-tools [02:50] OR,, run sudo apt-get update in the terminal as suggested and see if there is any error outpu [02:50] I still don't have networking [02:50] what would i do? just reinstall and dont let my hard driver get full [02:51] yeah [02:51] Thats looking like a good option right now [02:51] that would take about 8 minutes.. whatever you need to do could take who knows how long to figure out what you did [02:51] still, If I can fix apt-get remove I could have this thing booting normal on the old kernal [02:52] yup.. if you dont have your data backedup , take this opportunity to do so, and reinstall.. think about imaging or backing up and be careful adding PPA's and/or kernel modules [02:52] Deepfriedice: sure.. i would get it online.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and report the error output and we can go from there [02:52] don't really need a backup, nothing important is on that laptop [02:52] okay [02:53] then blow it out and take the path of least resistance [02:54] holstein, I would, but that would break the Win install on there [02:55] and while re-installing Xubuntu is a trivial task, Vista isn't. [02:55] so, networking [02:55] Deepfriedice: well, take this as an opportunity to plan for that. when that hard drive fais it will break windows on there [02:56] Deepfriedice: you can blow out ubuntu and not mess up windoes [02:56] I tough it was the other way round... [02:56] hmm [02:56] Deepfriedice: you open a gparted from a live CD.. remove the linux partitions.. start an installer, and use the empty space to install xubntu to [02:57] Deepfriedice: when you install windows on the remaining space on a linux system, it installs a bootloader that assumes its the only OS [02:57] Deepfriedice: xubuntu will install grub again, which will find windows, and the xubuntu install [02:58] If I'm going to do that, I may as well reboot and see if the fixes the "no space on device" errors [02:58] Deepfriedice: maybe you need more space on the device [02:58] I have 2.8GB free right now [02:58] maybe you should back up your data, and shrink the ntfs partition down a bit more to give more room for linux [02:59] Deepfriedice: i would want 6gb's minimum [02:59] 10 would be ideal.. [02:59] what free? [02:59] Deepfriedice: total [02:59] Deepfriedice: its not a matter of what you have free now.. its a matter of what wasnt free when you didnt have enough space for package management [03:00] hmm [03:00] wait, It just booted up properly [03:01] sure.. with an older kernel? thats what i would do [03:01] boot an earlier kernel.. run sudo apt-get update.. troubleshoot any errors [03:01] nope, same kernal [03:01] I have no idea how, but it seems semi-okay [03:02] well, like i said, if nothing is wrong, just enjoy it [03:03] well, it's not quite right [03:03] sure.. which gets back to either troubleshooting the errors, or reinstalling [03:04] hang on [03:04] update-initramfs just re-gened initrd [03:05] if it were me, i would want to reinstall whatever i was installing when it ran out of space [03:06] steam is officially supported on ubuntu 12.04 [03:06] really? [03:06] huh [03:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve is what i would reference [03:06] Deepfriedice: you can run it on 12.10, ive heard, but if you are having issues.. since we cant support steam here [03:07] BRB [03:12] rebooting [03:13] It works [03:13] my clock got set to date-time mode, but otherwise it works [03:14] and steam seem st work as well [03:16] holstein: thank you very much for the help, and I'll shift my partitions around to get some more space. [03:18] Deepfriedice: enjoy! [03:18] holstein: will do. [04:05] Hello can anyone help me install a wireless card on Ubuntu, I am new to this and am having issues [04:05] Please [04:05] bryong: maybe... do you know what it is? are you online with the machine now via a wired connection? can you connect via wired if not? [04:06] It is a WF-2117 wireless card and yes I have a wired connection [04:07] And I am on that machine via wired [04:11] bryong: can you return that card? [04:11] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2019516 might help.. i woud just try a windows driver with ndis wrapper [04:12] Yes, but it a 30 min drive each way to the store and the next one up is 20 $ more and for me that allot so I am hoping to make use of it :) [04:12] bryong: i would say, that would be well worth the $20 and the 30 minutes [04:12] bryong: and do your research *before* buying hardware [04:13] it deisigned for a windows machine but my older brother got mad and refused to install windows 7 so now I am trying to install Ubuntu. [04:14] bryong: that being said, i would try an XP driver with ndisgtk , or try the above post. [04:15] bryong: mad? its not "designed" for any machine.. its a device and the manufacturer has created a driver for windows and not for linux [04:15] Also -I hand made this computer for my little brother. And I went all out and got him what I consider a great graphics card and it not working either. [04:15] bryong: you can ask the manufacturer to create a driver for linux just as they have for windows but they likely wont if they havent alreayd [04:15] bryong: sure.. same with the graphics [04:16] bryong: if you want to run linux, its a good idea to get supported hardware [04:16] :( there nothing I can do? [04:16] bryong: i like resellers like system76.. even if you dont by the hardware there, you can get an idea of what will work [04:16] for the graphics card? [04:17] bryong: i search and search and google and read and test and save reciepts when i buy hardware for linux [04:17] bryong: there is *always* something to do with FOSS [04:17] bryong: but either we are allowed to support the hardware, or not [04:17] bryong: the drivers for your deivces are not in windows either.. nor apples OSX [04:17] What about a GeForce graphics card? [04:18] bryong: you are expecting a lot for linux.. and usually we can support all hardare, but not always [04:18] bryong: i have both nvidia and ati cards that work well, but it really depends on the model [04:19] bryong: intel is typically well supported out of the box.. but support for ati and nvidia are getting better since steam is here for linux [04:19] !ati | bryong [04:19] bryong: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [04:19] if you havent tried the proprietary driver for your hardare, try that bryong [04:19] Okay thank you. [04:19] bryong: as for the wifi card, you can try ndiswrapper as i suggested above with a windows driver [04:20] bryong: or read the post from the forum i linked with another user with that hardware [04:20] How do I do that? [04:20] what ndiswrapper? [04:21] bryong: my using the application i suggested... ndisgtk [04:21] and the windows XP driver as i suggested above [04:21] Well I can look into all the stuff you have shown me thank you. [04:22] bryong: i would literally install the application above.. ndisgtk.. then use it to point to the windows .ini file [04:22] ndisgtk is a GUI application that points ndiswrapper to a windows driver for your wifi device [04:23] Okay will do. [04:23] i suggest trying the windows driver for xp 32bit... if its in a blob like a .zip or an .exe, you'll have to get it out. the .ini file [04:24] how do you get the .ini file? [04:24] bryong: sometimes, thats what you get [04:25] bryong: it depends on the vendor and where you get those drivers [04:25] bryong: im just telling you what the ndisgtk application needs, so you dont point it to a file named "driver.exe" and think its broken [04:25] you need the actual driver.. the *.ini file [04:26] cd and I am installing the cd reader into my computer riught now [04:26] bryong: you should be able to get that online if you'd like to check right now [04:27] sure it says it website is www,netis-systems.com [04:27] on the cd [04:27] bryong: so, go to that site, download the xp driver, get the *.ini and give it to ndisgtk... or wait til you can read the cd [04:28] OK doing that right now [04:29] got a exe file [04:30] sure.. so you an open that from a windows box, or run that in wine and get the files to extract.. or try just extracting them [04:30] OR return it, spend the $20, and enjoy supported hardware [04:34] I am installing wine :() [04:34] :) * [04:38] Okay it will simulate the .exe file in wine but it won't let me open the file and pull files out of the .exe [04:40] bryong: depends on what "it" is.. its just a file though, try ad extract it [04:40] and* [04:41] I try to open the .exe with file manager and [04:41] Archive: /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe [04:41] [/home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe] [04:41] End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not [04:41] a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the [04:41] latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on [04:41] the last disk(s) of this archive. [04:41] zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe or [04:41] /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.zip, and cannot find /home/grant/Desktop/Setup.exe.ZIP, period. [04:41] I get this error message [04:41] !paste | bryong [04:41] bryong: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:42] i usually run in a terminal "wine /path/to/*.exe" [04:42] sometimes, i just right click them and see if they extract [04:42] bryong: you can always email the vendor and ask for the *.dll file [04:43] this [04:43] Okay well thank you very much for the help I am going to go to bed. [04:43] by [04:44] Happy new year by the way [04:44] bryong: cheers [06:12] I'm liking this linux, I was forced to switch over when I ereased my win7 partition by accident haha === rywilly is now known as _______ [09:46] Hello guys ! Even if I've disabled the screensaver it continues to be active ... Searching the net around seems to indicate that I am alone. Any clue ? [10:10] Anyone had any issues dual booting windows 8 and xubuntu? [10:12] Ironsight: afaik windows 8 will not boot from a non-secure uefi bios, and xubuntu won't boot from a secure one [10:12] Ironsight: but my information may be outdated [10:12] man :( [10:13] I don't even know what bios I'm rocking in this asus g75 :/ [10:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot [10:16] TheSheep, wow, thanks man :D [11:52] hello [11:52] some1 could tell me how I could change the xubuntu slideshow files and than add this to my own remix? [12:17] hi :) [12:17] Hi, just joined [12:17] I have a big problem with an eeepc 1015 cx and xubuntu 12.04 [12:18] I cannot have other display than 800x600 [12:18] Is it a driver problem? [12:18] There is a cedar view drier but when I download it [12:18] nothing works anymore [12:19] I'm a newbii on driver problems, sorry. [12:19] thanks :) [12:25] hmm, I was using build in drivers with Xubuntu 11.10 and all was good. I have 1024x600 which is normal resolution [12:25] what do you mean, what did you ? [12:27] hi, i am on xubuntu 12.10 and want to restart my xserver by keystroke. it used to work with CTRL-ALT-SYSreq-K but this seems to be disabled in 12.10 [12:28] wonderworld: you can enable it [12:28] wonderworld: with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' [12:29] hey thanks [12:30] this worked :) nice [15:53] I don't remember setting any password during setup, but now when I try and install a program, I'm being asked for authentication [18:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVd_VLO9xcc [18:34] Ooops - posted on the wrong channel. Sorry. [18:41] Hi, after upgrading xfce4-terminal to ver 0.6.0 today my terminal is not working I get: *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap' error, any known way how to fix it ? [19:05] viszu: how did you upgrade? in the repos? [19:06] holsen: with Software Updater, but nvm I just fixed it [19:07] "Reset compatibility options to defaults" in compatibility menu of xfce4-terminal fixed it [19:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/140011 is what i would reference if reinstalling doesnt fix [19:07] Ubuntu bug 140011 in vte (Ubuntu) "Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap'" [Low,Confirmed] [19:08] I was reading that, and my system already had those links [19:10] it breaks when I change $TERM setting to "xterm-256color" but it works with "xterm"