[00:01] <KxTwo> room seems kind of dead
[00:01] <daftykins> it's almost like it's NEW YEARS
[00:01] <Borillion> LOL
[00:01] <William9455> LOL yes it is Happy New Year
[00:02] <William9455> Sadly though still having issus with linux and software updater
[00:02] <William9455> Maybe my computer should start drinking then it can be a great new year
[00:02] <KxTwo> Not everyone celebrates or cares about NEW YEARS lol
[00:03] <William9455> See it is a new year, but nothing new ever happens same old stuff every year
[00:03] <KxTwo>  New years is just a western thing.  People use it as another excuse to get drunk and be stupid aka basically act like they do every other day
[00:03] <William9455> LOL well I am from WI and they do not need excuses to drink
[00:04] <William9455> and in easter calanders it is not a new year, yet.
[00:04] <William9455> But they do celebrate their new year, like china has thirs and they get drunk there too
[00:05] <daftykins> KxTwo: true, but in my eyes it stops randomers asking for things for just a day or two a year in channels like this ;)
[00:06] <KxTwo> daftykins, if you dont want to be asked of anything simply log out?
[00:06] <daftykins> lol don't be a nob
[00:06] <KxTwo> I love some peoples logic lol
[00:06] <KxTwo> a nob?  LMFAO
[00:06] <William9455> Well maybe it does, this is a free support, if you want 24 365 supportthen that usually costs ya, shouldnt complain just say oh well life goes on, read up your problem on google usually helps me whn I can not get an answer here
[00:06] <daftykins> no my logic is thinking of others :)
[00:06] <daftykins> William9455: true that :)
[00:07] <Gnea> William9455: this is a channel, not a room.
[00:08] <William9455> This is a "free" os but that does not mean support is always there, sometimes have to bit the bit and read up on your topic yourself, I know google has a translate so you can see the help files in native laguange
[00:08] <KxTwo> granted this is support but its also a discussion channel, I've come here plenty of times not really needing support but just trying to educate myself by asking questions.  Like currently trying to understand the different DE's and WM etc.  If some one doesn't want to discuss or answer questions they can simply not respond or log out.  Not really a complex idea.
[00:08] <Gnea> okay, do any of you have anything on topic to ask or discuss?
[00:09] <Ginoss> !list
[00:09] <William9455> And yes right now we are discussing the freedoms of people to celebrate their new year and no support 24 7 365
[00:09] <NewWorld> KxTwo:  it's ubuntu-specific support chan, though
[00:09] <Gnea> William9455: then do so in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:09] <bazhang> KxTwo, its NOT the chat channel
[00:09] <William9455> Sorry
[00:09] <KxTwo> NewWorld, ive not asked anything not related to ubuntu.
[00:09] <NewWorld> oh ok
[00:10] <bazhang> KxTwo, this is support only. #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[00:10] <KxTwo> NewWorld, my comment was in response to some one saying they liked new years because it meant people wouldnt ask questions.  I thought that was silly.
[00:11] <NewWorld> maybe the mods are out celebrating, so we CAN chit chat hehe
[00:11] <William9455> Not quite it was more about this is quiet and you said well just because it is new years it should not be quiet, then i went off on my tangent sorry of topic again
[00:11] <daftykins> aka this guy can't take a joke ^_^
[00:11] <William9455> :(
[00:11] <NewWorld> sorry :(
[00:11] <bazhang> that is enough NewWorld
[00:11] <Gnea> !ubuntu
[00:11] <KxTwo> Anyway my last question relating to ubuntu was involving unity.  I am a little confused I thought unity was a windows manager for gnome but obviously wrong.  When I do ech desktop environment it just says ubuntu.
[00:12] <daftykins> bazhang: that was pretty sad
[00:12] <bazhang> KxTwo, its a shell, just as gnome-shell is
[00:12] <Gnea> KxTwo: Unity is a shell
[00:12] <bazhang> daftykins, lets move on please
[00:12] <Kilum> anyone here used a pinnacle dazzle on ubuntu
[00:12] <KxTwo> so unity is a shell for gnome 3.0?
[00:12] <bazhang> correct
[00:13] <Gnea> !unity | KxTwo
[00:13] <Apteryx> Hello! Does someone tested connecting a USB mass storage Android phone to a LiveCD or LiveUSB?
[00:14] <i3ear> I have a big question
[00:14] <i3ear> anyone got the time?
[00:14] <PDun> Apteryx - Mine gets recognized for booting from LiveUSB and recognized when loaded
[00:14] <Apteryx> Or could make a quick test? I can't make it work. No USB connection is detected. I wonder if it's hardware related or just a general limitation?
[00:15] <Gnea> !ask | i3ear
[00:15] <NewWorld> Apteryx:  is it not listed in `lsusb`?
[00:15] <Apteryx> PDun: oh. So it works? You can activate USB storage and copy files from phone to LiveUSB? Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:15] <KxTwo> what eversion of gnome am I running.  The gnome-about command does not seem to exist
[00:15] <i3ear> I am a musician and I have just one program that I need in windows, but it is really important. Can I run virtual midi connections from linux through vm ware to windows and then back again for audio?
[00:16] <Wulfe> are you sure the android "live usb drive" it is in host mode and not OTG mode.
[00:16] <PDun> I am on 10.04 but also worked with 11.10
[00:16] <Apteryx> NewWorld: PDun ok, thanks.
[00:16] <nipar> I "started ubuntuing" just recently, and for that purpose I decided to hang out here
[00:17] <nipar> and now all I can think is, why is linux/ubuntu good? :l
[00:17] <nipar> There
[00:17] <Apteryx> NewWorld: nothing seems to happen when I plug the phone by USB to LiveUSB. No USB connection menu appears in the Android notification area and lsusb does not list the phone :(
[00:17] <nipar> are limitations in software and all kinds of weird things going on
[00:18] <josefwu> i3ear you prolly can pull that off with wine
[00:18] <NewWorld> Apteryx:  do `dmesg`. Unplug/replug it. do `dmesg` again, and see what it told you
[00:18] <KxTwo> ugh so confusing
[00:18] <Wulfe> Apteryx:  are you sure it is in host mode and not OTG mode.
[00:18] <i3ear> josefwu: I am not sure how stable this program is on wine, it is a very uncommon program to run on linux
[00:18] <i3ear> josefwu: that and I could never figure out how wine works :x
[00:18] <Apteryx> Wulfe: hmm, how can I check this? By default I think it would be in host mode?
[00:19] <NewWorld> KxTwo:  can you not find out the gnome version in your package manager?
[00:19] <josefwu> i3ear what program is it?
[00:20] <KxTwo> NewWorld, im not sure how, I simly did a google search and everything talks about the shell but not the version of gnome itself.  I thought I read somewhere that gnome 3.2 would be mroe up my alley but I dont knwo if it means the shell or the DE
[00:20] <Apteryx> NewWorld: Just tried the dmesg, unplug-replug, dmesg and nothing new is printed there :|
[00:20] <Wulfe> well iirc you want it in OTG mode which is usually default. but Host mode makes other things the "drive/peripheral"
[00:20] <i3ear> josefwu: I could but I could never get it to work. but meh I have yet to install linux as lubuntu was giving me problems. I came here to ask for help about it but now I am thinking about just getting rid of windows xp
[00:21] <KxTwo> !notunity
[00:21] <i3ear> josefwu: sorry I didn't see your message, it is abox2 https://sites.google.com/site/analogbox2/
[00:21] <Wulfe> OTG mode or "on the go" mode is what makes it allowable to have it as a drive. that kind of information will be found th the devices manufacture information.
[00:21] <NewWorld> KxTwo:  well open up synaptic and search for gnome and check it's version
[00:21] <Apteryx> Wulfe: I'm pretty sure it's in the correct mode by default, because on a real, as in installed opposed to Live version of Ubuntu, it would get detected and mounted easily without doing anything special (other than activating USB memory access from the notification area in Android)
[00:22] <KxTwo> NewWorld, I dont have synaptic
[00:22] <Wulfe> okay then it is most definitely in OTG mode.
[00:23] <Wulfe> Apteryx: is the BIOS detecting it as a USB HDD?
[00:23] <Apteryx> hum, I can check
[00:23] <Wulfe> you may have to set it up in the BIOS first on some machines
[00:23] <Wulfe> before USB drives can be booted from
[00:23] <NewWorld> KxTwo:  then with dpkg , check `man dpkg` on how to search for a pkg
[00:24] <Apteryx> Wulfe: I'm not sure you got my scenario right, I'm booting Ubuntu from a USB key (distinct from phone) and trying to access my Nexus S internal memory from there
[00:24] <Wulfe> OH! yes i did have you wrong.
[00:25] <Apteryx> No problem :D
[00:25] <Wulfe> I thoughtyou had a ubuntu usblive partioned off on the device and wanted to use it to boot ubuntu
[00:25] <Wulfe> my bad
[00:25] <Wulfe> lol
[00:25] <nmatrix9> Hey guys
[00:25] <KxTwo> NewWorld, I think its pointless
[00:25] <KxTwo> i guess ill just try gnome shell
[00:25] <Apteryx> No, it's should be a really simple scenario, it puzzles me as to why it's not working already ;)
[00:26] <nmatrix9> Anyone know of any software to turn my linux box into a hub/router so my NAS and other devices can share my linux box internet connection which is wireless?
[00:27] <Guest86144> hi ubuntu users
[00:27] <PDun> nmatrix - Wired?
[00:27] <PDun> Hi Guest86144
[00:27] <nmatrix9> linux box is connected wirelessly
[00:27] <nmatrix9> all other devices are wired connected to a switch which is then connected to the linux box
[00:28] <nmatrix9> PDun, ^
[00:28] <PDun> Are you using crossover cable to connect from the nic to the switch?
[00:28] <Guest86144> i have a problem with nautilus, i want to hide files names in thumbnail view of pictures. how?
[00:28] <nmatrix9> PDun, no
[00:29] <PDun> Than that is likely your issue:-)
[00:29] <Wulfe> Apteryx:  it should be listed in 'lsusb' and i would assume 'dmesg' would have reported something about it when it was plugged in. otherwise idk. have you tried asking about it in the Galaxy S threads on XDA?
[00:29] <nmatrix9> PDun, Oh
[00:30] <Wulfe> This may very well be a thing on the devices side and not ubuntu
[00:30] <Gnea> KxTwo: you could also try E17, they finally made a release
[00:31] <KxTwo> Gnea, im nto familiar with that?
[00:31] <Gnea> !e17
[00:31] <Gnea> KxTwo: www.enlightenment.org is the site, there's a ppa with all of the latest builds
[00:32] <KaiSforza> e17 is no longer the 'development' version
[00:32] <mec> i just installed ubuntu 12. on my acer laptop. I noticed that if i unplug my power cord and plug it back into the laptop. the lights on the laptop keep blinking. and its not charging the laptop. how do i fix this
[00:32] <PDun> nmatrix9, Another good option would be just using a wireless repeater that gives you a wired output if you need wired connections
[00:33] <broken> !gnome3
[00:34] <ivotkl> Hello guys. Can anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12431669
[00:34] <nmatrix9> PDun, Think I am going with the crossover cable option.
[00:35] <broken> !lightdm
[00:36] <broken> !gdm
[00:42] <Apteryx> Wulfe: It seems that the phone is my problem for now :S I tried in another friend's Win7 PC, and its not recognized at all also... Tried two different cables... I think I need to head to the Android channel now :S hehe
[00:43] <mec> i just installed ubuntu 12. on my acer laptop. I noticed that if i unplug my power cord and plug it back into the laptop. the lights on the laptop keep blinking. and its not charging the laptop. how do i fix this
[00:46] <jhutchins_wk> mec: Start with updating your bios.
[00:48] <ogny> en cok bu tuhaf emotion'larini ozledim
[00:48] <ogny> sorry
[00:49] <mec> whats the bios got to do with blinking power lights? not argueing. just asking
[00:49] <ravigehlot> Hey guys, how do change X11 to run BlackBox instead of Ubuntu's Desktop standard
[00:50] <jhutchins_wk> nmatrix9: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ <- everything you need.
[00:51] <hectron> Hey all, I need assistance setting up Drupal on Apache locally in Ubuntu 12.10.
[00:51] <jhutchins_wk> mec: The bios handles things like suspend and power management.
[00:51] <jhutchins_wk> mec: The software just interfaces with bios functions.
[00:51] <hectron> I have installed apache and I have configured my virtualhosts. However, I can't access the website from foobar.dev
[00:51] <Nirvash> hectron, sounds intense. Have you tried Google?
[00:52] <mec> i guess i'll have to look. if they even have any for this laptop its a few years old
[00:52] <cjae> when you leave a persistence space on a live usb, where do you save you files or can it be anywhere on the disk, I used unetbootin
[00:52] <jhutchins_wk> mec: You want to start with the latest bios first, the work on tweaking the apci.
[00:52] <hectron> I have enabled that in my /etc/hosts file, and also name the appropriate sites-available/foobar file.
[00:52] <Nirvash> cjae: Persistent space should stay static, so anywhere in that area should be okay. Double check it to be sure.
[00:52] <jhutchins_wk> mec: A lot of systems will have an update that posts around the time the units start hitting the retail market.
[00:52] <cjae> Nirvash: ok thanks
[00:52] <hectron> Furthermore, I have restart the service several times and have ensured that ServerName and ServerAlias are configured to accept foobar.dev as the url.
[00:53] <Nirvash> cjae: Np, let us know
[00:53] <jhutchins_wk> mec: Acer's good about maintaining them.
[00:53] <hectron> Any pointers would be great. Nirvash, I used bing.
[00:53] <Nirvash> hectron: I don't know anything about what you're talking about, but have you seen this?
[00:53] <Nirvash> http://drupal.org/project/apachesolr
[00:53] <hectron> I have seen that before.
[00:54] <jhutchins_wk> hectron: Check your nsswitch file to be sure that the hosts file is the first source for everything.
[00:54] <Nirvash> hectron: Sorry, that's all I know =/
[00:54] <hectron> What is distressing about my situation is that my website is accessible via localhost/foobar but not via foobar.dev as I have set up in my virtualhosts and the /etc/apache2/sites-available/foobar file.
[00:55] <hectron> jhutchins_wk: Thanks for the tip. I will look into that.
[00:57] <jrib> hectron: clear your browser's cache
[00:57] <hectron> jrib++
[00:57] <hectron> I can't believe it was that.
[00:57] <hectron> *Facepalm*
[00:58] <Nirvash> if (jrib=0; jrib++; jrib<1) @_@
[00:58] <jrib> Nirvash: noop?
[00:58] <hectron> I think your conditions are backwards.
[00:58] <Nirvash> Haha, I always get a kick out of ++ and yeah they're backwards -_- How does it go again?
[00:58] <hectron> if (jribKarma = 0; jribKarma < 1; jribKarma++) @_@
[00:58] <Nirvash> Initial, Max, Incrementor?
[00:59] <Nirvash> There we go, haha been a while apparently T_T
[00:59] <hectron> Hahah/
[00:59] <jrib> I wonder what happens in the original
[00:59] <hectron> I think it's a compile time error.
[01:00] <hectron> Or not, but it's an execution time error.
[01:00] <Nirvash> Would it be?
[01:00] <hectron> jribb++ does not result in a boolean.
[01:00] <Nirvash> Haha, either way it wouldn't work.
[01:00] <hectron> :3
[01:01] <Nirvash> @_@ jribb = true;
[01:07] <Ginoss> !ciao
[01:07] <Ginoss> !lista
[01:08] <Nirvash> Anyone needing Ubuntu help?
[01:09] <cjae> when I try to boot the usb drive made with unetbootin when I select how to boot ubuntu doesnt seem to do anything, should I be seeing kernel messages?
[01:09] <Nirvash> No. What OS are you trying to boot with Unetbootin?
[01:09] <cjae> 10.04
[01:09] <cjae> desktop
[01:09] <Nirvash> Why 10.04?
[01:09] <Nirvash> Is that the last stable release for your hardware?
[01:10] <cjae> need to use something that requires lpt port figured a older might be better, trying to unbrick a wrt
[01:10] <OerHeks> 10.04 is still supported
[01:10] <Nirvash> cjae: What size is the USB drive?
[01:10] <trxicon> hi everyone
[01:11] <cjae> 4GB with 400 persistence
[01:11] <Nirvash> OerHeks: I know it is, but usually it's better to update to a newer version if your hardware plays nice with it...
[01:11] <Nirvash> trxicon: Hi.
[01:11] <Nirvash> Ah, does your BIOS support booting from USB?
[01:11] <cjae> oh theres the ubuntu screen
[01:11] <Nirvash> 0_o It took that long?
[01:12] <cjae> wow that took a bit for a usb stick that reads at 20 mb/s
[01:12] <Nirvash> ... shouldn't take that long =/
[01:12] <cjae> oh well it seems to be working
[01:12] <Nirvash> Are you planning to keep it as a flash-distro or format the HDD?
[01:12] <cjae> flash distro
[01:13] <Nirvash> Which explains the persistence... do you have internet access on the PC?
[01:13] <cjae> the jtag program doesnt run in dos
[01:13] <Nirvash> Do what?
[01:13] <cjae> well it could but is not hooked up
[01:13] <Nirvash> Oh, I was going to say: just use cloud storage.
[01:14] <cjae> thats why I need the linux environment since the jtag doesnt run in dos
[01:14] <Nirvash> Honestly don't know what jtag is T_T
[01:15] <cjae> it lets you clear bad setting in chips, I am going to try to use it again to repair bad flash on linksys wrt54 router
[01:15] <cjae> bad flashed
[01:16] <Nirvash> Ah, so you flashed the router and bricked it and now want to use jtag to unbrick it?
[01:16] <cjae> holy ship is this taking forever
[01:16] <cjae> yes
[01:16] <cjae> actuallly two of them
[01:16] <Nirvash> -_- Did you not learn after the first one?
[01:17] <cjae> one seems to have went bad on its own and one I did when drunk lol
[01:17] <cjae> bad idea
[01:17] <trxicon> question: i installed a desktop to root area by accident how can i fix?
[01:17] <irv> wha'ts the countdown on the site?
[01:18] <Nirvash> Haha, I hear you there cjae.
[01:18] <Nirvash> Trixicon: What?
[01:18] <irv> So close, you can almost touch it.
[01:18] <irv> 40:48:49 HRS MINS SECS
[01:18] <OerHeks> irv surprice, wait for 40 more hours .. something with touch
[01:18] <JesseH> happy new years
[01:19] <JesseH> blargggg
[01:19] <trxicon> building linux from scratch when i got to installing desktop environment i installed it to root
[01:19] <irv> oh, sweet
[01:19] <WeThePeople> where is firefox located at in 12.04
[01:19] <trxicon> superuser instead of user
[01:19] <cjae> Nirvash: :-)
[01:20] <Nirvash> trxicon: is it working?
[01:20] <trxicon> no
[01:20] <Nirvash> Can you not just reinstall?
[01:20] <OerHeks> WeThePeople, try terminal:  find firefox
[01:20] <trxicon> yea so should i uninstall it from root
[01:20] <trxicon> so it wont be there double
[01:21] <cjae> it sucks since the one that went bad on its own was the GL series which is a little better, I have no idea how it happened, my guess it one of the stupid power flickers we get quite often
[01:21] <Nirvash> WeThePeople: .... why do you need to knw?
[01:21] <Nirvash> cjae: Do you have a surge protector?
[01:21] <Nirvash> Battery backup? Regulator?
[01:21] <WeThePeople> nirvash, becuz its opening up
[01:21] <Nirvash> WeThePeople: And you *don't* want this?
[01:21] <cjae> I dont have one here but have put a couple in elsewhere because of it
[01:22] <cjae> this thing is still loading ..... yeesh
[01:23] <trxicon> really a archlinux question but its still a basic linux question
[01:23] <trxicon> but i couldnt get a answer from archlinux room
[01:24] <cjae> how do I tell what mode my lpt port is on form within ubuntu
[01:24] <cjae> from*
[01:25] <Nirvash> No clue =/
[01:25] <Nirvash> http://superuser.com/questions/301753/how-do-i-print-directly-to-lpt-port-in-ubuntu
[01:29] <trxicon> i had played around with ubuntu for a while now moving on to archlinux
[01:30] <OerHeks> trxicon, wrong channel buddy, this is ubuntu support only, try #linux
[01:30] <cjae> man this thing is slow, is there a way to see of  its still booting?
[01:30] <Nirvash> You could try "esc" to get messages. It's worked for me before, but I'm not sure if it is supposed to lol
[01:30] <cjae> tried to go to crt alt f1 but is only a blank screen
[01:30] <trxicon> thanks i tried thing is im a noob to irc and i think i have to register
[01:31] <trxicon> cuz i couldnt speak
[01:31] <cjae> stdin error
[01:32] <cjae> get pwuid_r failed due to unknown user
[01:32] <cjae> id
[01:34] <dr_willis> sounds like you got some deep issues cjae
[01:35] <cjae> hahaha you have no idea :p
[01:36] <OpenSorce> Wow... I just noticed the lack of the word "Linux" on most of Ubuntu's pages on ubuntu.com. A bit presumptuous I think....
[01:37] <Nirvash> OpenSorce: Ubuntu isn't Linux. It's Ubuntu. It's *never* been Linux. @_@ Do not question the Ubuntu overlords.
[01:37] <PDun> lmao
[01:38] <OerHeks> oh ubuntu isn't linux ..  is it windows ?
[01:38] <Nirvash> >_< T'was a joke.
[01:39] <OpenSorce> Linux voenoe 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:49:02 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[01:39] <OpenSorce> I beg to differ :-P
[01:39] <lobhater> what happens when a computer resumes in 12.04, there is a dir that it executes all scripts present. anyone remember?
[01:40] <dr_willis> lobhater:  id check askubuntu.com i never use resume. ;) too many hassles.
[01:40] <OerHeks> lobhater, they are in  /etc/pm/sleep.d if i recall corect
[01:41] <dr_willis> i dont seem to have any rules in sleep.d by default
[01:41] <dr_willis> oh there they are. ;)
[01:42] <lobhater> OerHeks: yea that is one place, there is another place too thought.  i added a magic modprobe line somewhere and cant find it now.  i really need it lol.  i am grepping for modprobe now but there are just so many
[01:43] <lobhater> i finally got suspend to work perfect with that line but now i cant find it and need to replicate it
[01:43] <bluezone> My mouse sensitivity and acceleration are both set to the lowest possible in the 'mouse and touchpad' settings yet my mouse speed is still too FAST, is there any way to decrease them further?
[01:45] <Nirvash> What kind of mouse?
[01:45] <bluezone> Nirvash, it's a dell but i have the problem with every mouse i use, and i've also had the same problem in the past :P
[01:46] <bluezone> i just like very slow mouse sensitivity
[01:46] <Nirvash> Are you sure that it is accepting the settings? Have you looked for the values in terminal?
[01:46] <bluezone> no i haven't looked at the values, i don't know how
[01:46] <Nirvash> Hmm... give me a second
[01:47] <bluezone> Nirvash, but it does seem to be responding when i increase the values :)
[01:47] <x0auser> HI all, why when i'm updating nvidia driver i lost my 1920*1200 resolution ? how can i update it whitout lost anything ?
[01:47] <bluezone> x0auser, you mean howto change your resolution?
[01:49] <x0auser> no, when i use the old version of the driver i can have the 1920*1200 resolution but when i update it i can only get 1920*1080 so the screen is pushed into the left
[01:50] <Nirvash> http://patrickmylund.com/blog/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[01:50] <Nirvash> Bluezone ^^
[01:51] <x0auser> installing the new driver and pasting the old xorg.conf will do it ?
[01:52] <dr_willis> actually you tried just not using an xorg.conf at all>
[01:52] <dr_willis> You may want to rename your users .nvidia-settings-rc  if they have one also to try to reset things
[01:54] <ivotkl> Any news about this?
[01:54] <ivotkl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12431669#post12431669
[01:54] <dr_willis> you could at least summerize the thread/problem.
[01:55] <x0auser> Ok thanks for helps guys
[01:56] <Philippa_> I'm just getting my ARM chromebook set up, am I totally SOL re Dropbox?
[01:56] <KM0201> why would you be totally SOL Philippa_ ?
[01:56] <Philippa_> KM0201: apparently I have no source for the nautilus-dropbox package
[01:57] <alcaprawn> what drivers, do i need to install for ati hd6870? the ones from ubuntu-repo messed up my system.
[01:57] <KM0201> are you just using the "free" dropbox?
[01:57] <HackinBlack> is there a way to disable grub so i can boot right into windows. Reason is i need to send laptop in for a repair and they cant see ubuntu
[01:57] <Philippa_> not sure what you mean: I'm trying to grab the one the Software Center offers
[01:57] <KM0201> HackinBlack: if the laptop is being "repaired".. they're going to "see" ubuntu.
[01:58] <melkor> Broke my system is there a way to reconfigure my graphics card and xorg and such?
[01:58] <Philippa_> Dropbox themselves don't appear to offer ARM binaries (unless you're running Android or iOS, anyway)
[01:58] <alcaprawn> what drivers, do i need to install for ati hd6870? the ones from ubuntu-repo messed up my system.
[01:58] <HackinBlack> I dont care if they see it i just need grub disabled. Ill take my chances dont feel like installing windows and everything just for a repair
[01:58] <KM0201> Philippa_: dunno
[01:58] <OerHeks> HackinBlack, use your windows cd to "repair" your mbr, and change it back after you get it back with a live cd
[01:58] <Philippa_> KM0201: yeah, I was wondering if there's a known/documented reason for that basically. If relevant, I'm on Precise
[01:58] <HackinBlack> Oerheks how whats the command im in windows right now
[01:59] <Philippa_> (and I'm assuming others're potentially going to see this: if you dunno, you dunno)
[01:59] <KM0201> i dunno Philippa_ .. i know there was some probs w/ Dropbox and Ubuntu in previous versions.. so i just switched to UbuntuOne... problem solved
[01:59] <OerHeks> HackinBlack, with your cd? at the point 'install windows' you have an option to repair
[01:59] <KM0201> plus, if you have a free account, you get more space
[02:00] <Philippa_> heh, does UbuntuOne have 'dows and 'droid support? (which is to say, I think I'm SOL, anyway)
[02:00] <HackinBlack> Alright oerheks ill look into it
[02:00] <KM0201> Philippa_: not sure to be honest
[02:00] <melkor> My screen, graphics card and input device could not be detected correctly. I removed some packages I shouldn't have, then reinstalled them and I now have the same error.
[02:00] <KM0201> Philippa_: yes, it has an android app
[02:01] <KM0201> https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/
[02:01] <melkor> It is a screen with an ok button that I cannot click because I have no input devices. I can however change ttys which is how I got here.
[02:01] <OerHeks> Philippa_, sure, win/mac/droid > https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/
[02:01] <dr_willis> Ubuntu One has windows and Android clients
[02:01] <Philippa_> cool, I'll bear that in mind
[02:01] <KM0201> dr_jesus: yeah, i figured it did, just wasn't sure.
[02:01] <XMLnewbi> I think im getting an error with this, $USD = ($intake * $amount)/100000000;   it php, is there a better way to move a decimal place?;
[02:02] <melkor> Ill be back, I want to restart in recovery mode to see if that helps.
[02:02] <jamie_> Could someone help me please?
[02:02] <dr_willis> jamie_:  with?
[02:03] <jamie_> I'm following the official xampp's website about installing the gzipped xampp
[02:03] <jamie_> But I don't know what it's asking me to do.
[02:03] <jamie_> It's telling me to use tar xvfz (filename) -C /opt but the terminal is telling me the dir doesn't exist.
[02:03] <dr_willis> jamie_:  i would say make the /opt/ directory then?
[02:03] <jamie_> It exists.
[02:04] <dr_willis> then you are doing a typo would be guess #2.
[02:04] <jamie_> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#374
[02:04] <jamie_> That's the site.
[02:04] <dr_willis> and most likely you need to be root to write in the /opt/ dir.
[02:04] <jamie_> I'm root, I just rooted myself with sudo su
[02:04] <dr_willis> You really shoul dbe using the ubuntu lampp stuff i belive. Not xampp anyway if you want support in here.
[02:04] <OerHeks> use lamp, xampp is bad
[02:05] <dr_willis> dont use 'sudo su' either.. sudo -i or sudo -s
[02:05] <dr_willis> !sudo
[02:05] <dr_willis> !lamp
[02:05] <jamie_> I'll read that instead.
[02:05] <jamie_> Thanks.
[02:05] <El-E-Va-Tion> anyone here know much about installing wireless drivers for 12.10?
[02:05] <goddard> is it any easier to install ubuntu on a mac yet
[02:05] <bluezone> dr_willis: what's the difference between those sudo commands?
[02:06] <dr_willis> bluezone:  somthing with the system variables/enviroment.. i never can rember when you would want one or the other.
[02:06] <dr_willis> try one. see what 'set' says.. try other/ ;) compare set output
[02:06] <bluezone> ah, i just prefix everything with sudo :S
[02:06] <El-E-Va-Tion> I'm trying to install the realtek rtl8723ae wireleass lan on 12.10 and it's not recognized
[02:07] <El-E-Va-Tion> oops wireless lol
[02:07] <Philippa_> El-E-Va-Tion: nothing like a good ol'fashioned fraudian typo, huh? :-)
[02:07] <dr_willis> did it compile and install? did you modprobe the module?
[02:09] <El-E-Va-Tion> haha yep, it compiled and seemed to install, but the modprobe does this:  pastebin.com/dTNV0ReJ
[02:09] <bluezone> i can't stand how i can't download something using the software center while apt-get is doing some installation lol
[02:10] <El-E-Va-Tion> here's the instructions I used:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/215727
[02:11] <far3> hello guys
[02:11] <El-E-Va-Tion> hi far3 :)
[02:14] <El-E-Va-Tion> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized is the other one I tried, which also didn't work
[02:14] <El-E-Va-Tion> can anybody help me out for a few please?
[02:17] <Cong> jocky-gtk is broken. how do I install b43 drivers?
[02:20] <dr_willis> figure ouyt what package it is and use apt-get Cong  (no i dont know what one it is)
[02:20] <dr_willis> !b43
[02:20] <zebulun> hi
[02:20] <zebulun> anyone can help me run steam?
[02:20] <dr_willis> zebulun:  theres #ubuntu-steam
[02:20] <Cong> do I need b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer?
[02:21] <zebulun> dr_willis: no reply :(
[02:21] <dr_willis> Cong:  one may actually pull in the other.
[02:21] <dr_willis> firmware-b43-installer  i imagine installs   b43-fwcutter
[02:22] <dr_willis> or depends on it.
[02:24] <Cong> jockey-gtk is broken. how do I fix it?
[02:24] <dr_willis> well.. given the vague details.. ;) no idea.
[02:25] <dr_willis> whats broken about it...
[02:25] <Cong> apt-get reinstall jockey-gtk?
[02:25] <Cong> It won't open.
[02:25] <dr_willis> and your ubuntu version is?
[02:25] <dr_willis> and you run it from terminal and it says?
[02:25] <Cong> 12.04.1
[02:26] <Cong> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1483708/
[02:26] <KxTwo> so I decided to try LXDE.  its pretty fast but I cant figure out how to get it to display psensors temp in the task bar?  Also it came with openbox and GNOME/openbox but not entirely sure how to use them lol
[02:27] <El-E-Va-Tion> it won't show up in the network connections
[02:27] <El-E-Va-Tion> when I run it from terminal it says this
[02:27] <dr_willis> openbox is just the openbox window manager. you select at the lightdm screen
[02:27] <dr_willis> openbox-gnome used to be gnome2 with the openbox wm instead of metacity.. but no idea if thats the case any more
[02:27] <dr_willis> seelct it at the lightdm login screne and see
[02:27] <KxTwo> im assuming its for more advanced users as I had no idea how to do anything with it
[02:28] <KxTwo> dr_willis, what is lightdm?
[02:28] <KxTwo> dr_willis, if you are talking about the primary login screen ive tried all three optiosn, im on lxde right now as it was the only one I coulf figure out how to do anything with
[02:29] <KxTwo> just trying to expand my knowledge of other DE's.
[02:29] <KxTwo> nvm on lightdm looking it up!
[02:31] <El-E-Va-Tion> dr_willis it says this:  pastebin.com/-cTfhQ33
[02:31] <El-E-Va-Tion> dr_willis it says this:  pastebin.com/0cTfhQ33
[02:33] <dr_willis> El-E-Va-Tion:  means nothing to me. I always buy wifi stuff thats supported out of the box.
[02:34] <El-E-Va-Tion> ok, thanks anyway
[02:35] <El-E-Va-Tion> it was a pain just to get the ethernet card working, but at least that works now lol
[02:35] <dr_willis> its an odd wired nic that dosent just work.. unless its like real real real new.
[02:36] <dr_willis> or had broken drivers. ;)
[02:36] <El-E-Va-Tion> yep, it's on toshiba
[02:37] <dr_willis> Toshiba makes a lot of things. ;)  Thats like saying its on a computer.
[02:37] <ivotkl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12431669#post12431669 If you know any workaround to this, please post it on forums. =)
[02:37] <El-E-Va-Tion> had to use a usb ethernet cable to revert the drivers to the old kernel lol
[02:37] <ivotkl> Happy new year!
[02:37] <El-E-Va-Tion> not when they only make toshiba laptops :)
[02:37] <El-E-Va-Tion> unless some people run ubuntu on their toshiba smart tvs lol
[02:37] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  you could at least summarize the thread. People normally dont just go read threads  if they have no idea of the topic.
[02:38] <dr_willis> Most of the laptop makers just get them from whitebox type laptop makers with special changes. My Toshiba laptop worked very well. :) it was a Huge beast of a laptop.. a definate Desktop replacement.
[02:39] <El-E-Va-Tion> that's great, what version of ubuntu do you run?
[02:39] <El-E-Va-Tion> I should probably just run 12.04, it would be a lot easier for compatibility
[02:39] <dr_willis> I always use the latest release normally.
[02:39] <dr_willis> it depends on the age of your hardware.
[02:39] <El-E-Va-Tion> a lot of people have had problems after they upgraded 12.10
[02:39] <El-E-Va-Tion> the laptop is a 2012 model
[02:39] <dr_willis> if your Hardware came out after 12.04 was released  i bet 12.10 would run better
[02:39] <El-E-Va-Tion> in this case it doesn't run at all
[02:39] <dr_willis> I always do clean installs. very few issues with 12.10 at all.
[02:40] <El-E-Va-Tion> at least not until I figure out how to all this compiling junk works and why it's not working right
[02:40] <El-E-Va-Tion> lol
[02:41] <Cong> where are users and groups or gnome-system-tools?
[02:41] <El-E-Va-Tion> is there a way to reset all of the drivers to default kernel settings, or a system restore thing?
[02:41] <Cong> I wanna add a group.
[02:41] <El-E-Va-Tion> I just installed yesterday
[02:41] <Philippa_> dear Adobe: "Linux, 32-bit" may be underspecified
[02:42] <ivotkl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12431669 Windows XP blinking cursor after choosing it from GRUB, I already tried Boot Repair and some ideas given by chat with elfy
[02:42] <bluezone> Philippa_, adobe doesn't care :D
[02:42] <ivotkl> but none has worked.
[02:42] <donnie>  I have dosfstools. Should I install the debug as well? I have an SD card that's not being read by a device and it's Fat32 as well
[02:42] <OerHeks> Cong, users & groups is not installed by default, sudo apt-get install  gnome-system-tools
[02:43] <Philippa_> bluezone: no news there
[02:43] <Philippa_> ...okay, I gotta try DOSbox on this thing
[02:43] <Cong> Why can't I find it in the software centre, derheks?
[02:43] <OerHeks> Cong dunno
[02:44] <bluezone> Philippa_, i remember in the early days of premiere when it would take hours to render black video lolol
[02:58] <dr_willis> hmm
[03:00] <El-E-Va-Tion> happy new year all, peace! :) thx again dr willis!
[03:03] <Ganymede> Hello, how can I determine which Ubuntu release had a mysql-server version in the 4.1 series equal to or newer than 4.1.20? Thanks. (i.e., is there an easy way to search through http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for version numbers?)
[03:03] <ivotkl> HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR ALL UTC-3!!!!! XD
[03:04] <bobweaver> so close you can almost touch it lol
[03:04] <dr_willis> Ganymede:  the disrtowatch web site i recall has  listings of release/versions of specific packages on their site.
[03:06] <OerHeks> Ganymede, feisty i guess > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/i386/mysql-server-4.1
[03:07] <Ganymede> dr_willis: Thanks, but distrowatch.com seems to only list it down to 9.10/Karmic which had MySQL 5.1.
[03:07] <Ganymede> OerHeks: Thanks, let me check it out.
[03:08] <nazty> how do i set a permanent change in $PATH
[03:09] <Ganymede> nazty: For one user or system-wide?
[03:09] <nazty> one user
[03:10] <nazty> i edited my .profile
[03:10] <nazty> but whenever i opened up a new Konsole or terminal it changes back
[03:10] <arashi256> @nazty append "export PATH=$PATH:/your/path/here" to $HOME/.bash_profile
[03:11] <Ganymede> nazty: I think you should avoid .bash_profile. .pam_environment is probably what you want (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables)
[03:11] <Ganymede> PATH DEFAULT=${PATH}:~/MyPrograms in ~/.pam_environment
[03:12] <arashi256> @Ganymede - why do you say that?
[03:13] <backtrack> !
[03:14] <Ganymede> arashi256: Because the URL I linked to says that. I personally prefer doing environment variables in my .zshrc so I can have more logic in there, if statements and whatnot.
[03:18] <KxTwo> Ok I think gnome classic is the way to go!  Anyone familiar with psensor with gnome classic?  I cant seem to get it to display the cpu temp without showing the window.  Aka I want it to show it in the menu bar
[03:21] <hackinblack> Hello
[03:22] <amit_> Hello !
[03:22] <hackinblack> Happy new years
[03:23] <amit_> Same To You :)
[03:23] <KxTwo> crap
[03:23] <KxTwo> alt tab doesnt work in gnome classic
[03:24] <MoL0ToV> yes works
[03:24] <MoL0ToV> i use it
[03:27] <Ruoyu> Hi, how do I install GUI on Ubuntu server?
[03:27] <Ruoyu> oracle needs it
[03:27] <ivotkl> Kxtwo, have you tried lmsensors? I don't know full command line for it to show on the menu bar or its equivalent GUI program. Are you going through some temperature issues?
[03:28] <ivotkl> KxTwo, it definitely works. I use it as well.
[03:28] <ivotkl> Happy new year hackinblack!
[03:28] <Success> Ruoyu, why did yuo get a server if you want a gui
[03:28] <KxTwo> ivotkl, I have int eh past on thsi laptop so I always like real time monitoring.  psensor is a graphical front end for lmsensor and with unity once you close the actual window it has an icon in the menu bar that displays the temperature.
[03:28] <Success> GUI is bad for yuor server
[03:29] <Ruoyu> Success: I don't need GUI, but Oracle needs it
[03:29] <Ruoyu> Success: without GUI, oracle will not install
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> lolk
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> why do all dbas think that
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> you can use answer files to install oracle no gui
[03:30] <SolarisBoy> dbas just say that so sysadmins have to install X on perfectly fine servers to make their life easier
[03:30] <Success> Ruoyo, sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; startx
[03:30] <SolarisBoy> or just xlibs...
[03:30] <Ruoyu> Success: thank you , trying now.
[03:33] <hackinblack> c
[03:33] <Ruoyu> GUI is not something wrong BTW. redhat/debian installs GUI by default. sometimes we might be in dire need of it
[03:34] <hackinblack> How easy is it to see ubuntu on windows if I'm sending it in for repair my laptop
[03:34] <Success> hackinblack: when you turn it on it shows up, first thing almost
[03:37] <ivotkl> Anyone has some idea about XP showing only a blinking cursor when being selected on GRUB2 bootloader?
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> ivotkl, no is strange error
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> you can boot into ubuntu
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> then do
[03:38] <FaptainAwesome> how do i mount my windows partition? it's been so long since i've linuxed :/
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> sudo update-grub
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> or your sdX hard disk
[03:40] <FaptainAwesome> oh jeez
[03:40] <FaptainAwesome> i'm such an idiot
[03:40] <FaptainAwesome> it was already mounted...
[03:40] <MoL0ToV> there are some opensource girls??? :D
[03:41] <FaptainAwesome> sounds like a mytch
[03:41] <FaptainAwesome> myth.
[03:41] <JC_SoCal> If i download and use the minimal 10.04 iso ... Once installed, how to I get to to the same state as if I installed 10.04-desktop? or 10.04-server
[03:42] <MoL0ToV> 10.04 is very old you must upgrade
[03:43] <KxTwo> can anyone tell me how to fix alt tab not working in gnome classic?
[03:43] <MoL0ToV> KxTwo, also mine dont' work
[03:43] <MoL0ToV> i see that on google there are various solutions
[03:44] <MoL0ToV> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968630
[03:46] <JC_SoCal> MoL0ToV: yeah it is old =( lts ends middle of '13 yeah?
[03:47] <JC_SoCal> MoL0ToV: however, my issue isn't if it is old, my question is out to get it up to the -desktop or -server standard install equivilent
[03:50] <OerHeks> JC_SoCal, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:50] <JC_SoCal> OerHeks: of course its that easy
[03:50] <JC_SoCal> thx!
[03:50] <OerHeks> have fun
[03:54] <Ganymede> OerHeks: Hey, I set up fiesty and did sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 but it pulled in 5.0...looks like 4.1 was just a transitional package name.
[03:59] <OerHeks> Ganymede, maybe edgy 6.10 does have it ?
[04:00] <OerHeks> Ganymede, a quick search learns me i can't find a version before 5.0
[04:00] <MonkWitDaFunk> yay! i have ubuntu 12.04 Lts on CDRom
[04:01] <MonkWitDaFunk> the very first Lts version burned by me
[04:01] <Ransom85> ok, so... ubuntu tablet coming?
[04:01] <Linux-Dude> Only if you rm -rf /
[04:01] <Linux-Dude> now
[04:01] <Linux-Dude> right now
[04:01] <Linux-Dude> do it
[04:01] <FloodBot1> Linux-Dude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <OerHeks> !danger
[04:01] <Linux-Dude> Fuck you
[04:02] <MonkWitDaFunk> ubuntu for.amd64 should.be the better performer because of its 64bit instruction set. is that correct
[04:03] <OerHeks> MonkWitDaFunk, yes, you have full functions of your system
[04:04] <MonkWitDaFunk> im beginning to gain an interest in programming which.includes.linux
[04:04] <Ganymede> OerHeks: Trying Edgy now...
[04:04] <OerHeks> Random832, if you refer to the website with countdown, wait and see
[04:05] <OerHeks> sorry Random832 , was for Ransom85
[04:05] <Ransom85> OerHeks: That is lame, and not in the culture of openness that Linux embodies
[04:06] <Ransom85> I mean, what is this, Apple?
[04:06] <Ransom85> Also: I hope that it is really cool
[04:06] <Ransom85> and not lame
[04:06] <Ransom85> like the surface
[04:07] <OerHeks> Ransom85, there must be a reason, like 13.04 is in more closed development > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1200
[04:08] <IdleOne> Ransom85: if you are talking about the ubuntu.com clock countdown. We have the exact same amount of info as everybody else has, none. Also this discussion is off topic for #ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss to continue.
[04:09] <Ransom85> I'm sorry, what is on the ubuntu front page is offtopic for ubuntu?
[04:09] <MoL0ToV> IdleOne, what is the countdown for?
[04:10] <Ransom85> this is directly relevant to ubuntu
[04:10] <IdleOne> MoL0ToV: again, off topic, but there will be an announcement made on the 2nd jan
[04:10] <OerHeks> As we don't know either, further speculation is no ubuntu support
[04:10] <IdleOne> Ransom85: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not discussion
[04:10] <MoL0ToV> ok i can wait :)
[04:11] <MoL0ToV> more vagina, minus closed-source for all!!! :D
[04:11] <MoL0ToV> bye to all  and good 2013:D
[04:12] <MoL0ToV> doh! what i say?
[04:12] <ivotkl> Good 2013 Molotov!
[04:12] <IdleOne> read the guidelines the bot linked you.
[04:13] <ivotkl> offensive language, I believe.
[04:13] <ivotkl> the V word
[04:13] <MonkWitDaFunk> would anyone like to discuss the benefits of six sata interfaces? i want to fill them.all up and decide if they should be all for the ext4 Filesystem
[04:14] <IdleOne> MonkWitDaFunk: discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <MonkWitDaFunk> i.need.more.disks and i.want to know which filesystems
[04:14] <MoL0ToV> what are offensive??
[04:14] <MoL0ToV> i read the guidelines and i'm sure not to violate...
[04:14] <KxTwo> ok trying lxde now
[04:15] <taofd> @MoL0ToV i think it was your language
[04:15] <MoL0ToV> bye and goodnight!
[04:15] <MoL0ToV> :)
[04:15] <MoL0ToV> i sayed: <MoL0ToV> more vagina, minus closed-source for all!!! :D << this is not offensive
[04:16] <dr_willis> dosent even make sence...
[04:17] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi dr willis
[04:17] <MonkWitDaFunk> would.you like to.chat about more.disks.and filesystems?
[04:17] <dr_willis> whats to discuss... add more disks.. fill them up.. buy more...
[04:18] <Ganymede> Ugh, Edgy doesn't have MySQL 4.1 in the repos either. I'm just going back installing each Ubuntu version one by one at this point.
[04:18] <IdleOne> edgy hasn't been supported since 2008
[04:19] <kujablak> Hi, I'd like to set up a shared folder with two computers, both are connected to the same router but one is connected via ethernet and the other one wifi, how do I do that ?
[04:19] <dr_willis> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu shows mysql versions in differnt releases.. up to a point
[04:19] <wanfuse> can anyone tell me what the draw back of getting a cheap SSL certificate from cheapssls.com or gotrust or other cheap local?
[04:20] <dr_willis> kujablak:  same as if they were wired.. it dosent matter. What OS is on each pc matters
[04:20] <IdleOne> wanfuse: what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[04:20] <wanfuse> verisign wants 230 bucks for theres..wondering what the difference is
[04:20] <kujablak> dr_willis, one on ubuntu other one on mint
[04:20] <wanfuse> installing it on a ubuntu server thats all
[04:20] <IdleOne> right, but not an ubuntu issue is it
[04:21] <dr_willis> kujablak:  samba, nfs, ssh/sshfs - all can work
[04:21] <wanfuse> ok, IdleOne is there an ssl group?
[04:21] <IdleOne> !alis
[04:21] <IdleOne> there may be
[04:23] <kujablak> dr_willis, do I have to set up an OpenSSH server ?
[04:25] <dr_willis> kujablak:  if you want to use ssh/sshfs.. yes.. sort of logical :)
[04:26] <dr_willis> kujablak:  with a lan of  linux machines.. ssh is worth learning
[04:26] <kujablak> dr_willis, I'll try and find a tutorial
[04:31] <MonkWitDaFunk> does samba use secure shell?
[04:31] <Ganymede> Okay, thanks all for the help, I'm just going to give up because it's taking up too much time and effort.
[04:32] <Ganymede> MonkWitDaFunk: No, Samba uses the SMB/CIFS (Server message block / Common Internet file system) protocol or the SMB2 protocol.
[04:32] <beandog> although
[04:32] <trisquel> hola
[04:32] <beandog> strictly speaking, you COULD tunnel it over SSH
[04:32] <beandog> but, that'd be insane.
[04:33] <phiberoptik> Bonsoir :)
[04:33] <MonkeyDust> Ganymede  CIFS is similar to NF, not to samba
[04:33] <MonkeyDust> NSF*
[04:33] <MonkWitDaFunk> that would be.the new standard eh.
[04:33] <beandog> Ganymede: what are you trying to do?
[04:33] <Ganymede> MonkWitDaFunk: Of course, in the sense that CIFS and SMB are protocols while Samba is a software package.
[04:33] <phiberoptik> ubuntu-fr?
[04:34] <Ganymede> beandog: Don't worry about it, I already gave up. But I was trying to get a MySQL 4.1 server up and running without doing too much tinkering, hoping some Ubuntu version had in the repos out-of-the-box.
[04:34] <MonkWitDaFunk> what software.uses secure shell?
[04:34] <Ganymede> (Well...old-releases.ubuntu.com isn't out of the box, but whatever).
[04:34] <MonkeyDust> Ganymede  no, SMB (samba) is a protocol too
[04:34] <beandog> Ganymede: oh, yah ... you need TurnKey Linux.  Install, done.
[04:34] <beandog> And it's ubuntu
[04:34] <ivotkl> anyone knows about blinking cursor when selecting XP on GRUB2? It won't go past that point.
[04:34] <dr_willis> MySQL4.x is like real real old isent it?
[04:35] <beandog> yes.
[04:35] <beandog> 5.0 is old
[04:35] <beandog> 5.1 is old.
[04:35] <Ganymede> beandog: Ah, that's good to know, I never actually noticed it wasn't capitalized.
[04:35] <beandog> Ganymede: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/mysql
[04:35] <Ganymede> MonkeyDust: So again, you're just repeating what I'm saying.
[04:35] <OerHeks> 6.10 or 7.04 feisty, dr_willis
[04:35] <Ganymede> MonkeyDust: SMB is a protocol, Samba is not.
[04:35] <dr_willis> distrowatch site didenen even list any with mysql that old. ;)
[04:35] <phiberoptik> link to ubuntu-fr please
[04:35] <OerHeks> beandog, if you suggest that, mention that it is not supported here
[04:36] <dr_willis> !fr
[04:36] <phiberoptik> tanks :)
[04:36] <Ganymede> beandog: Okay, I should clarify that "out-of-the-box" wasn't the important part, but "4.1" was.
[04:36] <ivotkl> anyone?
[04:37] <beandog> Ganymede: 4.1? o.O
[04:37] <chaospsychex> can someone help me determine if ubuntu is loading the VESA driver because I can't get high resolutions...
[04:37] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  either the xp install is broken. or grub is using the wrong options to boot it.
[04:37] <beandog> someone help ivotkl
[04:37] <beandog> I'm going home
[04:37] <ivotkl> XD
[04:37] <ivotkl> Thanks.
[04:37] <Ganymede> beandog: Yeah, was trying to recover MYI/MYD files from a really old server for which I only have filesystem access.
[04:38] <dr_willis> id try fixing the xp bootloader and get it working first. then reinstall grub after you confirm xp works
[04:38] <ivotkl> I have tried many things with elfy on private chat and I've also tried Repair Boot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2100140
[04:38] <ivotkl> Nothing worked.
[04:38] <beandog> Ganymede: Hmm
[04:38] <beandog> Ganymede: lemme think for a second
[04:38] <ivotkl> I'll edit the post with some outputs
[04:38] <dr_willis> its possible the issue is with XP
[04:38] <dr_willis> not with grub/ubuntu
[04:38] <beandog> Ganymede: You should be able to read it with 5.0
[04:38] <Ganymede> beandog: Well...I'm not going to do any more work on this because I already exhausted my time and effort so don't worry about it. I don't want to think about this during the new years.
[04:38] <ivotkl> Darn, so how do I fix it?
[04:38] <dr_willis> id try fixing the xp bootloader and get it working first. then reinstall grub after you confirm xp works
[04:38] <beandog> Ganymede: also, try loading it, and then running mysql_upgrade
[04:39] <OerHeks> ivotkl, is it a sata disk, and did you change ide mode to AHCI ?
[04:39] <kujablak> dr_willis, that's what I get : connect to host 192.168.1.103 port 22: Connection refused
[04:39] <dr_willis> kujablak:  you installed ssh server on the machine you are sshing to?
[04:39] <chaospsychex> i can't select 1280x1024 which is the highest resolution my monitor supports.....
[04:39] <ivotkl> Lemme check, I did a change for it to load XP cd or it wouldn't let me go on. It gave me a BSOD.
[04:39] <ivotkl> just a sec.
[04:39] <kujablak> dr_willis, yes
[04:40] <dr_willis> kujablak:  go to that machine and see if you can 'ssh localhost' to verify ssh is working
[04:40] <OerHeks> ivotkl, if you change it back, you cannot load ubuntu anymore, probably grub also
[04:41] <beandog> Ganymede: happy new year's buddy!  Take a break. :)
[04:42] <Ganymede> beandog: Thanks.
[04:42] <ivotkl> I know Oerheks.
[04:42] <chaospsychex> ubuntu 12.04 is incorrectly reading the EDID of my monitor, why ?
[04:42] <MonkWitDaFunk> i need help. if i have six sata disks hooked up to one board which is always going to boot ubuntu, are there any examples where not all six sata disks were not.formatted to the ext4 filesystem? i need help.
[04:43] <chaospsychex> omg
[04:43] <beandog> wait what?
[04:43] <chaospsychex> spin the barrel on your .38
[04:43] <beandog> I just ... what?
[04:43] <ivotkl> chaospychex: sometimes not reaching maximum resolution is related to  drivers. can you go to pastebin.com or some similar site you know and give us the output of sudo lshw -c video and lspci |grep OpenGL?
[04:44] <ivotkl> Do you have video card drivers installed? Are they proprietary or open source?
[04:44] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  what FS to use.. depens on what you want to do with the disks.
[04:44] <OerHeks> !format
[04:44] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  you could use any FS you wanted on whatever partion you want.
[04:44] <chaospsychex> ivotkl: integrated intel video gpu
[04:45] <jagginess> chaospsychex, that comes with the kernel.. to upgrade that driver you merely upgrade the kernel :)
[04:45] <chaospsychex> ivotkl: i have no proprietary drivers installed and none are available
[04:45] <MonkWitDaFunk> ok. i.got confused because somebody told.me to keep all sata disks.the same.filesystem
[04:45] <KxTwo> any opinions on lxde vs xfce?
[04:45] <beandog> what??
[04:45] <beandog> MonkWitDaFunk: that's bs
[04:45] <chaospsychex> jagginess: i shouldn't have to upgrade to a newer kernel to get ubuntu to correctly determine my monitor's EDID, 12.04
[04:46] <ivotkl> what is EDID? XD
[04:46] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  the partitions have filesystems.. not the disk.
[04:46] <ivotkl> !EDID
[04:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> thats right
[04:46] <jagginess> chaospsychex, you can use the update software app and have checkmarked anything with 'updates'..
[04:46] <kujablak> dr_willis, ssh localhost tells me that the authenticity cannot be established, should I continue ?
[04:46] <ivotkl> bot does not know a thing about it =P
[04:46] <chaospsychex> ivotkl: if you don't know what EDID is then you can't assist me
[04:46] <OerHeks> KxTwo, lxde needs min 256 mb and xfce needs min 512 mb system memory
[04:46] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  now the  type of disk - gpt cs msdos may matter.
[04:46] <ivotkl> hahaha, ok =P
[04:46] <jagginess> chaospsychex, not sure for 12.04, but here on 12.10 i can get kernel 3.5
[04:46] <KxTwo> OerHeks, I have 4gb
[04:47] <chaospsychex> jagginess: LOL ok.....
[04:47] <beandog> ivotkl: it's basically the monitor telling the computer what resolutions it supports.
[04:47] <dr_willis> kujablak:  thats normal for the first connection
[04:47] <jagginess> chaospsychex, systemtools/administration/softwareupdater
[04:47] <dr_willis> kujablak:  DO you want to continue? :)
[04:47] <chaospsychex> beandog: can you assist me ?
[04:47] <chaospsychex> jagginess: no
[04:47] <beandog> chaospsychex: no, I'm about to leave, sorry man
[04:47] <kujablak> dr_willis, I did, and it said Write failed: Broken pupe
[04:47] <kujablak> dr_willis, pipe*
[04:48] <dr_willis> kujablak:  thats unusual that ssh localhost would ever fail.
[04:48] <chaospsychex> beandog: you can't leave, your the only one in here who knows what EDID is....:-(
[04:48] <jagginess> chaospsychex, no what?
[04:48] <dr_willis> kujablak:  you got any other weird settings/setup on those machines?
[04:48] <jagginess> chaospsychex, edid is data information reported back from the monitor
[04:48] <jagginess> chaospsychex, intel releases patches to kernel.org
[04:48] <chaospsychex> jagginess: yes, why should i have to upgrade to a newer kernel? that is madness....
[04:48] <jagginess> chaospsychex, it is part of the kernel package
[04:48] <kujablak> dr_willis, don't think so, I did the localhost on mint, and I just installed it
[04:48] <jagginess> chaospsychex, (i said it 5 minutes ago)
[04:48] <chaospsychex> jagginess: madness
[04:49] <dr_willis> kujablak:  no idea on mint. could be firewall or other silly things mint does. try on the ubuntu box
[04:49] <jagginess> chaospsychex, bye kid.
[04:49] <chaospsychex> jagginess: lol ok guru, not
[04:49]  * jagginess ignores
[04:49]  * chaospsychex smiles and exhales
[04:49] <lobhater> where can i place a modprobe statement to ensure it is executed upon resume?
[04:50] <jagginess> lobhater, none.. but if its explicit options, then you add it to the module options file..
[04:50] <lobhater> which file is that?
[04:51] <jagginess> lobhater, if its "module options".. you passing special module options to-> modprobe <module> <options> ?
[04:51] <chaospsychex> can someone assist me on figuring out why ubuntu is incorrectly determining my monitor's EDID ? thus limiting my available resolution's ?
[04:51] <lobhater> i am just reloading my wifi driver after my laptop wakes up from suspend
[04:52] <red_> Good evening.
[04:52] <chaospsychex> wow,just wow
[04:52] <ivotkl> Oh, one more thing. I've installed AMD propirietary drivers. How do I enable them and disable the ones that come from default?
[04:52]  * chaospsychex joins #linux
[04:52] <ivotkl> *Oh, one more thing. I've installed AMD propirietary drivers. How do I enable them and disable the ones that come as default?
[04:52] <jagginess> lobhater, oh that.. that is a bit tricky.. hmm.. there's excludes you can make for some devices for sleep states but I forget exactly how it's done..   << you may want to google device skip sleep state ubuntu
[04:53] <chaospsychex> lol
[04:53] <lobhater> i have been for a couple of days, no luck
[04:53] <ivotkl> chaospsychex: could it by HW incompatibility?
[04:53] <lobhater> ill try your search terms, thanks
[04:53] <chaospsychex> ivotkl: what? LOL try again....
[04:53] <jagginess> lobhater, yeah.. i know.. it's a tough one..
[04:53] <jagginess> lobhater, usb?
[04:53] <jagginess> lobhater, usb wifi?
[04:53] <ivotkl> well dude, I'm just trying to help. There's no need for you to mock.
[04:54] <ivotkl> "<chaospsychex> ivotkl: what? LOL try again...."
[04:54] <ivotkl> ...
[04:54] <jagginess> ivotkl, just ignore him like i did.. he's mocked me too when helping him..
[04:54] <chaospsychex> ivotkl: not mocking, you asked about modules not loading...
[04:54] <red_> If anyone is willing to help me troubleshoot Ubuntu install through UEFI on my new desktop please message me. I have tried a couple techniques listed on the boards.
[04:54] <lobhater> no internal intel.  i have fixed it before but cant remember which file i added it too. iwlwifi is the driver
[04:54] <chaospsychex> or trying to prevent a certain module from loading
[04:55] <jagginess> red_, you have your efi on "strict efi" or "hybrid bios" ?
[04:55] <jagginess> red_,  (check your efi/bios settings)
[04:55] <red_> i disabled secure
[04:55] <chaospsychex> ivotkl: you can blacklist the module you don't won't loading at boot
[04:55] <red_> And booted usb through efi
[04:55] <red_> I think I fucked up partitioning
[04:55] <jagginess> red_, yeah.. but is the "efi/bios" set on "strict efi" or "hybrid bios" ?
[04:55] <jagginess> red_, dont worry about partitioning atm..
[04:56] <jagginess> red_, tell me the motherboard i can see if its mentioned the default in the manual..
[04:57] <red_> One moment. bear with me  and thanks
[04:58] <red_> Angelica 2 M3970AM-HP
[04:58] <lobhater> whne using grep is there a way to have it NOT display "error" messages. like "not a file or directory" or "permission denied" even when running as root?
[04:58] <lobhater> only display positive results
[05:00] <lobhater> # grep -rl "iwlwifi" /etc         and only display hits
[05:01] <chaz> idk
[05:02] <lobhater> wow silence, that is unlike this channel lol
[05:02] <LASTofS> hny east coast~
[05:02] <jagginess> ivotkl, http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkjr4l5aFdzqOQPtvX6VtXdSFpxWWWrR-
[05:02] <dfcnvt> Happy New Year!
[05:03] <red_> Same to you!
[05:03] <red_> Fireworks are booming
[05:04] <chaz> 2013!
[05:04] <KxTwo> is there a reason why xfce isnt in the software center?
[05:04] <OerHeks> KxTwo, it is xubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <KxTwo> im really strugging tryin to figure out which DE to use.  Im about to uninstall everything and just stick with unity lol
[05:06] <jagginess> red_, i cant seem to find anything mentioned about it in the manuals..
[05:06] <red_> I am able to boot up, but no root system is detected.
[05:06] <red_> I switched from 12.10 down to 12.04
[05:06] <jagginess> red_, perhaps if there's an "Advanced" option in the bios? just be sure you check any "advanced settings" and anything to do with "strict efi" or "Hybrid bios" <<
[05:06] <KxTwo> red_, I just did that as well.  12.10 was giving me problems
[05:06] <jagginess> red_, boot-up from cd only?
[05:07] <jagginess> red_, (I mean you can boot up from cd only?)
[05:08] <red_> I am booting from usb. I didnt have any cds. The installation isnt recognizing any partition. However the partioner is started its just hanging.
[05:08] <red_> haha
[05:09] <red_> and ubiquity keeps crashing
[05:09] <red_> Windows 8 was unbearable
[05:10] <kujablak> dr_willis, got tired of open ssh, will try it later, actually mint had a really simple interface to use so I did that
[05:10] <KxTwo> I havent treid windows 8 yet I heard it was so bad
[05:11] <dr_willis> kujablak:  takes me all of 60 seconds to set up ssh on my 2 pcs and get stuff going.
[05:12] <kujablak> dr_willis, sure but I'm way too tired to try and find out why openssh won't work, it's probably nothing to do with it anyway, this machine is running maverick so I won't insist
[05:19] <jagginess> red_, is the drive set on "AHCI" or "Native IDE" ?
[05:20] <f00l> help me pls ....how can i install comgt tool manually
[05:21] <replica> hey ! jagginess
[05:21] <jagginess> replica, hi man.. happy new year
[05:21] <replica> happy new year jAGGINESS !
[05:22] <OerHeks> !info comgt
[05:22] <OerHeks> fool sudo apt-get install comgt
[05:24] <mauryaarun> Wishing All Linux users A Very Happy New Year!!!!
[05:26] <MonkWitDaFunk> excuse me. is canonical.a publisher of textbooks?
[05:28] <OerHeks> not that i know of, MonkWitDaFunk
[05:28] <HaiKaiDo> i have a question about adding ppa's
[05:29] <lemonsparrow> what chmod should I apply to get drwxrwxr-x permission on a folder ?
[05:29] <HaiKaiDo> i ran sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7-installer
[05:29] <HaiKaiDo> and it went fine
[05:29] <HaiKaiDo> but when i try to then run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-nexus7-installer
[05:29] <HaiKaiDo> i get a cant find package
[05:29] <HaiKaiDo> which is what i added the ppa for
[05:29] <HaiKaiDo> am i missing something?
[05:30] <HaiKaiDo> oh i also did the sudo apt-get update
[05:30]  * angelpossum hands everyone 4shots of 30% vodka
[05:30] <angelpossum> to the new year
[05:30] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, after adding the ppa, run: sudo apt-get update  ( to refresh the repolist)
[05:31] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, they you can install it
[05:31] <HaiKaiDo> mhmm, I have indeed done that as well
[05:31] <HaiKaiDo> but it still refuses to find the package
[05:32] <HaiKaiDo> is there any way i can check a file to make sure that the ppa was indeed added?
[05:33] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, open softwarecentre > edit > sources to see if it is added, but if it did not, you would have got an error
[05:34] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, you might want to search tru softwarecentre for that package and click it
[05:35] <mah454> but not work !
[05:35] <mah454> I want to limit max logins peer user in vsftpd I add this line in /etc/security/limits.conf "username hard maxlogins 1" , and this line in /etc/pam.d/vsftpd : "session required pam_limits.so"
[05:35] <mah454> but not work !
[05:36] <HaiKaiDo> weird
[05:36] <HaiKaiDo> I see that its there
[05:36] <HaiKaiDo> but when i search for the package in software center it doesnt show up
[05:36] <HaiKaiDo> strange
[05:37] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, what ubuntu version do you use ?
[05:37] <HaiKaiDo> 10.04 Lts
[05:38] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, ah, there is no Lucid 10.04 version > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/+archive/ubuntu-nexus7-installer?field.series_filter=lucid
[05:39] <HaiKaiDo> hmm
[05:39] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, only Quantal 12.10, Precise 12.04 & beta-Raring 13.04
[05:40] <HaiKaiDo> I did know that it said only 12.04 and above, but i spoke with someone in here a few days ago that said as long as i had adb and fastboot running on my distro (which i do) the package would install
[05:40] <HaiKaiDo> can i add the ppa for 12.04 on my current 10.04?
[05:41] <OerHeks> No :-(
[05:41] <HaiKaiDo> bummer
[05:41] <HaiKaiDo> alright well thanks for the info, back to the drawing board hah
[05:41] <OerHeks> HaiKaiDo, i suggest upgrade to 12.04
[05:42] <HaiKaiDo> I really dont like the newer ubuntu revisions
[05:42] <HaiKaiDo> im a die hard 10.04 Gnome user lol
[05:42] <HaiKaiDo> im not a fan of unity at all
[05:42] <HaiKaiDo> and my only gone alternative is Cinnamon
[05:42] <HaiKaiDo> *Gnome
[05:43] <jagginess> HaiKaiDo, yeah.. there's a package called mate-desktop (if i recall), and you can click on the logon gear to choose it
[05:43] <jagginess> HaiKaiDo, (after you install it of course)
[05:44] <HaiKaiDo> hmm ive heard of mate
[05:44]  * jagginess uses gnome-fallback
[05:44] <HaiKaiDo> whats it like?
[05:44] <HaiKaiDo> also, gnome-fallback?
[05:44] <HaiKaiDo> will that allow me to use gnome 2.0/gtk themes?
[05:44] <jagginess> yeah.. gnome-fallback is like mate-desktop
[05:45] <jagginess> It's gnome3 but in fallback/classic mode..
[05:45] <HaiKaiDo> ahh
[05:45] <jagginess> there's about 2 ways of enabling it.. (there's full of easy 2 steps on how to do it)
[05:45] <HaiKaiDo> will it let me use legacy gtk themes?
[05:45] <jagginess> one way is using dconf..
[05:45] <jagginess> dunno..
[05:46] <jagginess> you'll have to check out all that stuff.. i just like the traditional panel bars and startmenu
[05:46] <jagginess> (also with gnomeclassic/fallback,  you can 'enable' desktop icons with dconf)
[05:48] <HaiKaiDo> well lets see
[05:48] <Fudge> anyone know how to successfully make a printer work from windows using cups. i shared my usb printer on my ubuntu server with cups, works on my ubuntu desktop but not windows laptop. just wants to use the image writer instead
[05:48] <HaiKaiDo> i think i have ubuntu installed on my pc as well on another drive.
[05:48] <HaiKaiDo> brb
[05:50] <dr_willis> Fudge:  I recall having to get samba shares working first. or enabling somthing in the cups config/web interface. been ages since i last messed with shareing that way
[05:50] <dr_willis> cups web interface ->  http://localhost:631
[05:51] <dr_willis> These days - my printer has built in wifi/network/shareing. ;)
[05:53] <jagginess> ivotkl, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqlc_5bqId8
[05:57] <ivotkl> Thanks
[05:58] <KxTwo> ok so maybe unity is the way to go lol
[05:59] <Fudge> dr_willis  i have cups working and samba sharing too but samba is not sharing the driver
[06:00] <ivotkl> See you guys, thanks for the support.
[06:00]  * angelpossum hands everyone 4 shots of 30% vodka
[06:01] <dfcnvt> bottom up!
[06:01] <dfcnvt> *drink*
[06:02] <angelpossum> HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <calwig> Happy New Year 2013 all
[06:05] <dfcnvt> *burp*
[06:06] <krz> whats the countdown for at http://www.ubuntu.com/
[06:06] <krz> new years?
[06:06] <krz> or some kind of release?
[06:06] <KxTwo> so I take it with unity there is no way to move the windows buttons to the right when using unity?
[06:07] <KxTwo> wow redundant
[06:07] <iFlip> happy new year from TX
[06:09] <lala> iFlip: hny :)
[06:09] <astropirate> Anyone here have any driver issues with SSDs?
[06:11] <lala> astropirate: What's wrong with the drivers for your SSDs?
[06:11] <astropirate> lala, there aren't. I am looking into buying one
[06:11] <astropirate> making sure that there are no troubles with my investement
[06:11] <astropirate> :)
[06:12] <johnnyfireworks> i have 2 lan ports and i want to use them to game on my pc  .. trying to get lowest lag and lowest ping ..  fps games .. i hear of pfsense and kinda what it can do ,, but im lost as what to do
[06:13] <lala> astropirate: I never even thought about drivers since they would do just the same as HDDs except a bit faster.
[06:13] <KxTwo> astropirate, I've had no problem with ssd's
[06:14] <pppingme> johnnyfireworks what do you mean two lan ports?  your pc has two ethernet cards?
[06:14] <aeon-ltd> johnnyfireworks: 2 ethernet ports? then use the one in the network card, if it's dedicated it will have slightly lower latency
[06:14] <astropirate> great great
[06:14] <astropirate> thanks lala and KxTwo
[06:15] <bhavesh> I installed cinnamon desktop on Ubuntu 12.10 and since then I get these kind of windows which always stay on top of any window I open http://i.imgur.com/PcY1g.jpg
[06:15] <bhavesh> This one came when I was extracting a zip file
[06:16] <chirag> exit
[06:25] <lobhater> Can anyone help me with my internal intel wifi issue, i can not connect after resume from suspend.  I have fixed it before but now have an identical machine that is having the same issue and i can't remember how to fix it.  Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1484027/ is my dmesg showing the resume (edited for brevity)  Please any assistance is welcome!
[06:25] <angelpossum> c ya
[06:27] <mvt007geek> hi. who knows assembly?
[06:28] <lobhater> i know some mips, why
[06:28] <Abhijit> mvt007geek, #asm
[06:29] <mvt007geek> there is a big silence in asm :p
[06:30] <mvt007geek> lobhater:
[06:30] <mvt007geek> can someone tell me why it give me error? i'm very new to asm so don't blame me  http://pastebin.com/7b1ezCdP
[06:31] <lobhater> im not gonna be of any help sorry, i cant make my mind work that hard this late at night. sorry
[06:33] <Logan_> Noskcaj: What's incomplete about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/testdrive/+bug/1079259 ?
[06:35] <lobhater> anyone any good with grub?\nI installed another distro but now wanna get rid of it, how do i fix grub so it doesnt being up the boot menu and just boots into ubuntu?
[06:37] <jagginess> lobhater, /etc/default/grub  , hidden timeout or something..  << after you make the proper changes to that file, you do sudo update-grub<enter> , then reboot to test
[06:38] <rhet9> hey how can i use the commandline tools, such as apt-get, to search for packages i have installed
[06:38] <jagginess> rhet9, use apt-cache search <string>
[06:38] <lobhater> ok thanks, I am just always so nervous to mess with grub. that is still one black box i have never tackled
[06:38] <rhet9> jagginess, that doesn't show me installed apps
[06:38] <Mechdave> lobhater, As long as you have removed the previous distros you can re install grub from a terminal with grub-install /dev/sr0
[06:38] <rhet9>  it shows me everything
[06:39] <cfhowlett> rhet9: apt-cache policy packagename
[06:39] <jagginess> rhet9, for installed? .. ya.. you can use     dpkg -l |grep string
[06:39] <mvt007geek> lobhater: in my country it's 10 am :D
[06:39] <jagginess> rhet9, "ii" means the package is installed (if you removed a package it wouldn't say ii)
[06:39] <Mechdave> lobhater, after that you can modify the line GRUB_DEFAULT=0 (the first grub entry)
[06:40] <rhet9> i want to remove amazon from unity
[06:40] <Mechdave> lobhater, in the file /etc/default/grub
[06:40] <lobhater> i just formated that partition, so this will work.
[06:40] <lobhater> # grub-install /dev/sda1
[06:40] <rhet9> i like unity but what canonical  is doing to commercialize ubuntu i don't
[06:40] <jagginess> rhet9, try fixing problem #1 first. Then later come to problem#2
[06:40] <rhet9> jagginess, that IS my problem
[06:40] <lobhater> with the 1 or not?
[06:40] <rhet9> and it's not solved
[06:40] <rhet9> mainly because there is no package  named amazon
[06:41] <Mechdave> lobhater, no, use grub-install /dev/sda
[06:41] <jagginess> rhet9, problem #1, find out the package
[06:41] <Mechdave> lobhater, that way grub will install on MBR
[06:41] <jagginess> lobhater, can you tell us what you're trying to do?
[06:42] <lobhater> Mechdave: and i can just do this from a normal terminal i dont need to stop lightdm or anything?
[06:42] <Mechdave> lobhater, just from a normal terminal, you will need to use sudo though
[06:42] <lobhater> i partitioned sda5 that arch was on and now i wanna get grub to the way it was before i installed arch
[06:42] <cfhowlett> rhet9: nothing to remove but you can "disable amazon lens in ubuntu"
[06:43] <Mechdave> lobhater, as long as you have removed arch from /dev/sda5 then all should be good
[06:44] <lobhater> Mechdave: thanks. exactly what i needed
[06:44] <Mechdave> lobhater, grub will search your computer and find operating systems to add boot entries for automatically
[06:44] <lobhater> happy new year all, have a good night
[06:45] <Mechdave> lobhater, after you reinstall grub you will need to modify /etc/default/grub if you want it to do anything different from standard
[06:46] <MK`> how can I remove a panel from gnome-panel with the command line? I added one and it crashed the application and it no longer runs.
[06:48] <Mechdave> MK`, Have a look here --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks it may help you out :)
[06:49] <Mechdave> MK`, Also may be some pointers here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1659184
[06:52] <bellundger> How would I go about GPG encrypting outbound emails from root? I have my computer set up to alert me if there are problems and i'd rather not leave those messages on webmail server in plain text.  I've tried searching the web and just come up with some blog about a key sharing party....can someone point me in right direction please?
[06:57] <MK`> Mechdave: do you know if applets are numbered in chronological order?
[06:58] <Mechdave> MK`, Sorry, I don't know... It might come to searching through the xml files to find the right launcher in .gconf yet :(
[06:58] <jagginess> MK`, applets? hahaha.. i think they Gnome3 authors are calling it something else
[06:59] <jagginess> bellundger, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
[06:59] <average_drifter> jagginess: what's up ?
[06:59] <MK`> well whatever they're called. I made a left panel and added the window list to it and it crashed :P just need to find that and remove it, or just remove the third panel.
[06:59] <jagginess> bellundger, each host has a key-pair.. they only exchange the public keys..
[07:00] <bellundger> how would i implement it though?
[07:00] <average_drifter> MK`: what window manager are you using ?
[07:00] <jagginess> bellundger, when you send a message to someone else.. You encrypt your message using "their" public key..
[07:00] <average_drifter> MK`: remove your window manager, and install i3 instead , then you won't have anymore crashes
[07:00] <MK`> average_drifter: I'm on whatever the gnome fallback is for 11.10.
[07:00] <average_drifter> i3 ==> best and most stable window-manager I've seen in my life
[07:00] <jagginess> bellundger, you cannot "decrypt" your encrypted message using their public key.. because the algorithm is "asymmetric"
[07:01] <average_drifter> MK`: yeah, gnome is a piece of crap, remove it
[07:01] <jagginess> bellundger, which is a "good" thing
[07:01] <MK`> I am aware that gnome sucks, but I am still asking for help :V
[07:01] <MK`> these things are related.
[07:01] <average_drifter> MK`: the easiest way to solve a problem is to get rid of it
[07:01] <bellundger> i'll be generating both keys
[07:01] <average_drifter> MK`: get rid of gnome and you solve the problem
[07:02] <average_drifter> MK`: don't try to be clever, be smart :)
[07:02] <Thundarr> by that logic he should stab you to death right now.
[07:02] <bellundger> just don't know how to go about setting it up in the mail server
[07:02] <average_drifter> Thundarr: no, because I'd remove him from planet earth if he did that
[07:02] <average_drifter> s/did/attempted/
[07:02] <jagginess> bellundger, i believe gpg is meant to be used peer to peer, server-iccentric
[07:03] <jagginess> bellundger, ,/pgp/
[07:03] <Noskcaj> Logan_, nobody can understand what it means
[07:04] <Noskcaj> Logan_, if the average person cannot repeat the bug, it's incomplete
[07:04]  * jagginess has problems saying pgp without thinking gpg
[07:05] <dr_willis> MK`:  you could delete/rename the various config files untill you reset your gnome back to its defaults.
[07:06] <Logan_> Noskcaj: I think that a package maintainer would know what it means… Being lintian clean is important for packages, as it ensures that they meet policy.
[07:06] <average_drifter> Here is another thing to ponder: How in God's name can you trust a mammoth of a window-manager like Gnome ? Why I'm asking this ? It is immense, it's like a huuuUUuuuuUUge pile of code put together, it will have bugs *FOR_SURE*. There is no hope in expecting it to be perfect. In fact, the more code is in there, and the more features , the more imperfect it is, the more buggy it is. Now i3 and wmii are both minimalist window managers. And dwm is ano
[07:07] <Noskcaj> Logan_, yes, but unless you can fix the bug yourself, i dont think much will happen, could you do something to make "normal" people understand it
[07:07] <average_drifter> MK`: sudo aptitude purge gnome gnome2 gnome3
[07:07] <Logan_> Noskcaj: Okay, will do.
[07:07] <average_drifter> MK`: actually just remove
[07:07] <average_drifter> MK`: sudo aptitude remove gnome gnome2 gnome3
[07:08] <dr_willis> best to not use aptitude any more.
[07:08] <average_drifter> dr_willis: orly ? so what is the new thing ?
[07:08] <Logan_> Noskcaj: I attempted to clarify it a bit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/testdrive/+bug/1079259
[07:08] <dr_willis> just use apt-get
[07:08] <MK`> dr_willis that's what I'm doing. But, I am unsure where the settings are...
[07:08] <average_drifter> dr_willis: oh ? why is that ?
[07:08] <dr_willis> !aptitude
[07:09] <Noskcaj> Logan_, thanks, i will check it then mark it as new again
[07:09] <MK`> the most recent file edited was the clock, which I changed the settings of a few minutes before adding the new panel.
[07:09] <dr_willis> MK`:  make a backup directory. and just move whatever seems gnome related. :)
[07:09] <MK`> ok :P
[07:09] <dr_willis> MK`:  not like its hard to resetup whatever changes you mad
[07:09] <average_drifter> MK`:  ~/.gnome*
[07:10] <average_drifter> dr_willis: the best reset is a removal
[07:10] <dr_willis>  .gnome* .gtk* perhaps just  nautiuls/metacity connfigs would be all needed
[07:10] <MK`> there's no .gnome, only .gconf :P
[07:10] <dr_willis> average_drifter:  the problem is your pacakage removeing will NOT RESET USER SETTINGS...
[07:10] <dr_willis> average_drifter:  so your commands were pointless.
[07:10] <average_drifter> dr_willis: bs
[07:10] <bazhang> !behelpful | average_drifter
[07:11] <dr_willis> average_drifter:  apt does not touch the settings in the users home directory. so well.. your suggestions are invalid.
[07:11] <bazhang> average_drifter, please dont comment further if you dont know
[07:11] <average_drifter> dr_willis: my suggestions are valid because if you remove gnome then there is *no* *more* panel to get wrong or to cause any error
[07:12] <average_drifter> instead using a tiling window manager can be extremely productive and less of a hassle
[07:12] <average_drifter> that is what I suggested
[07:12] <dr_willis> average_drifter:  and thats not what they were asking to do.. so you are not helping.
[07:12] <jagginess> "<average_drifter> MK`:  ~/.gnome*"   << no.no, and "no"
[07:12] <average_drifter> bazhang: why should I comment no further, I know the situation perfectly
[07:12] <MK`> I noted your suggestion.
[07:13] <dr_willis> MK`:  theres various gnome related configs in .config  also
[07:13] <MK`> alright
[07:13] <average_drifter> bazhang: FYI  I know Gnome inside out, it has caused me countless problems over the years
[07:14] <bazhang> average_drifter, let us move on
[07:14] <MK`> ah, the settings appear to be in dconf
[07:14] <MK`> I should be able to fix it from there.
[07:14]  * cfhowlett please let us move on!
[07:14] <dr_willis> MK`:  yea. i was looking in the dirs.
[07:15] <dr_willis> dconf only has 1 file here in it.
[07:15] <MK`> what's the command to edit dconf settings again?
[07:15] <average_drifter> bazhang , cfhowlett   move on if you want to
[07:15] <dr_willis> MK`:  dconf-editor perhaps?
[07:16] <elky> average_drifter, stop trying to bait them.
[07:16] <average_drifter> elky: dude, a friend called me a few days ago and he also sent me youtube links of the fancy Gnome3 features
[07:17] <average_drifter> elky: I told him "maan, just install i3"
[07:17] <average_drifter> and he never looked back
[07:17] <elky> average_drifter, you're not very useful to this channel.
[07:17] <average_drifter> pff whatever
[07:19] <MK`> got it fixed. Thanks for the help guys.
[07:20] <MK`> average_drifter, a time will come when I will slay the gnome beast, I will inform you, it will be a glorious battle.
[07:20]  * dr_willis closes the ticket.
[07:20] <topper4125> has anyone here purchased a system76 machine?
[07:20] <dr_willis> MK`:  the fallback mode stuff was scheduled for removeal in the next release. but i think it got an extension
[07:21] <average_drifter> MK`: :)
[07:22] <average_drifter> MK`: you're on the right track padawan
[07:23] <Thundarr> Q: I don't understand security updates between the .04 and .10 variant releases. .04 releases are 5 years, right?  how long are .10 releases actually supported for things like security updates?
[07:23] <jagginess> topper4125, yeah. i heard they are good, cuse canonical has a stake with them.. canonical works with system76
[07:23] <IdleOne> average_drifter: I strongly recommend you read the channel guidelines ubottu messaged you. Just to make all our lives a little easier :)
[07:24] <misterno> hey why you fill the channel with so many bots?
[07:24] <MK`> Thundarr: 3 years for non-LTS releases.
[07:24] <Thundarr> ah, ok ty. that's still more than enough.
[07:24] <misterno> what is the purpose of having 1499 users in channel when only dozen really talk
[07:24] <MK`> 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS, but 10.11, 11.04, 11.10 are not. it's every 4th release.
[07:25] <average_drifter> misterno: because they need regulations and policies and police and laws here
[07:25] <jagginess> misterno, well why have 50 thousand friends when you only really care for five? It's called facebook..
[07:25] <jagginess> ^
[07:25] <jagginess> :)
[07:25] <average_drifter> misterno: didn't you know there's a Ubuntu Supreme court ?
[07:25] <topper4125> jagginess, that's what I heard too. I was on their website, looks like everything ships with 12.10 (for now)... curious to know if I could request a machine with latest LTS instead though... they come with some PPA's they manage, and a few other goodies that I'm not sure if I formatted and reinstalled 12.04, i would be able to 'get' without a lot of problems
[07:25] <misterno> is this overcompensating in numbers for lack of something else? :)
[07:26] <average_drifter> misterno: you have a point .. I must say
[07:26] <jagginess> topper4125, it's not to worry.. you shouldn't have a problem tailoring it to your particular needs..
[07:27] <MK`> I must say, I was surprised I didn't have dconf-tools installed. I thought it was default.
[07:27] <jagginess> topper4125, there's video interviews of managers/etc-- they work with canonical..
[07:27] <topper4125> jagginess, I'll have to look into that... thanks!
[07:27] <MK`> Also, how do I make a program in the terminal get pushed up into 'my' terminal again? I forgot.
[07:28] <jagginess> MK`, i dunno about tmux or asimilar, but I use "screen -RR" everytime
[07:28] <jagginess> MK`, (ssh)
[07:28] <kylescottmcgill> Does anyone know if i disable Gnome-Keyring etc, will it break all my other gnome-control-center stuff namely wifi + misc ?
[07:28] <MK`> kylescottmcgill: pretty sure that'd break wifi
[07:28] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  why disable it?
[07:28] <average_drifter> MK`: just grep through the 99999 configuration files in .gconf  and find the right xml with the terminal .. probably ..
[07:28] <jagginess> kylescottmcgill, probably not.. but it will break your computer's heart
[07:29] <dr_willis> MK`:  Backgrouind jobs? bg/fg commands perhaps
[07:29] <jagginess> pretty helpless average_drifter!
[07:30] <elky> average_drifter, your snark is not welcome here.
[07:30] <kylescottmcgill> dr_willis: im using Awesome WM, and everytime i go to start anything i have to sudo prior to opening it so that it can use Gnome-Keyring, also i cant really start it as its embedded into lightgdm startup process, so its either i remove lightgdm and replace it with slim, and use a .xinitrc file, or i disable gnome-keyring and fend for myself etc, i can use wicd for networking but meh
[07:30] <average_drifter> jagginess: useless you say ? https://gist.github.com/6a8d0d36acca59af573e
[07:31] <average_drifter> I already found where the gnome-terminal is placed in the ~/.gconf
[07:31] <dr_willis> hmm.. gnome-keyring asks once here  when it starts up if its not started.. then i never notice it again
[07:31] <kylescottmcgill> jagginess: macbooks have no heart
[07:31] <average_drifter> I highly suspect one can modify the order of items in the menus by just modifying those files
[07:31] <average_drifter> MK`: https://gist.github.com/6a8d0d36acca59af573e
[07:31] <MK`> thanks jagginess that worked
[07:31] <kylescottmcgill> dr_willis: are you using a different WM too ?
[07:31] <MK`> I ran gnome-panel from the terminal, needed to just kick it off the terminal so I could close it X)
[07:32] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  im using 'startx' go launch gnome-shell at the moment. I think its done the same thing with other wm's when i was testing them last month.
[07:32] <dr_willis> MK`:  command & , then use the 'exit' command is one way.
[07:32] <dr_willis> MK`:  or 'ctrl-z' then 'bg' then 'exit'
[07:32] <MK`> ah yes, &. I forgot.
[07:33] <dr_willis> Just hitting the terminal close button can close apps spawned by the terminal. so i always use close.
[07:33] <kylescottmcgill> yeah, see i could use that, the startx .xinitrc approach, but i dont see a way to get that working with lightgdm, not yet anyway
[07:33] <yassination_> hey guys, happy new year, I have a problem... after installing KDE desktop environment my HDMI port can't be detected by ubuntu, even when I use xrandr it's not listed, I need help?
[07:33] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  you could define your own whatevber.desktop session for lightdm to use to run whatever you want.
[07:34] <dr_willis> most of the *dm managers will use the same whatever.desktop definitions.
[07:34] <average_drifter> kylescottmcgill: ^^ dr_willis is right
[07:34] <kylescottmcgill> dr_willis: thanks, i will check that out, there was mention of that on Awesomes wiki, but it was an old entry
[07:34] <dr_willis> Not sure about slim. ive not used it in ages.
[07:34] <average_drifter> kylescottmcgill: I have this file for my wmii for example /usr/share/xsessions/wmii.desktop
[07:34] <average_drifter> kylescottmcgill: and it shows up in the options in lightdm and gdm
[07:34] <kylescottmcgill> awesome, you guys are win, i will check that out now
[07:34] <average_drifter> kylescottmcgill: here's the file format https://github.com/wsdookadr/wmii/blob/master/usr/share/xsessions/wmii.desktop
[07:35] <jagginess> kylescottmcgill, actually it's "lightdm" .. "gdm3" is an equivalent logon option but separate
[07:36] <yacks> help
[07:36] <kylescottmcgill> lol i used gnome3 last month, i get those mixed up, i enjoy slim, or nothing :D
[07:36] <topper4125> !help | yacks
[07:37] <kylescottmcgill> average_drifter: do you enjoy wmii? have you used any others?
[07:37] <average_drifter> kylescottmcgill: My friend, I tried all of them and then some ...
[07:37] <kylescottmcgill> :D
[07:38] <kvothetech> kylescottmcgill: i like xmonad
[07:38] <average_drifter> kylescottmcgill: I settled with i3
[07:38] <kvothetech> i3 isn't bad either.
[07:38] <average_drifter> kvothetech: you like xmonad. May God help you write Haskell to configure it ...
[07:38] <kvothetech> lol it's cool haskell isn't that bad
[07:38] <kvothetech> could be lua like awesome wants lol
[07:38] <average_drifter> right ...
[07:38] <kylescottmcgill> kvothetech: sane here, loved it, but ended up with Awesome, as a lot of other programs i use are based in or use lua, Haskell is pretty big :D
[07:39] <kvothetech> lua is way worse than haskell syntax wise if you ask me
[07:39] <elky> If only we had #ubuntu-offtopic for this not-really-support kind of discussion.
[07:39] <kvothetech> elky: what'd you need support for?
[07:40] <kylescottmcgill> i like lua maybe not over haskell, but its tiny, REALLY terse though
[07:40] <kylescottmcgill> ah
[07:40] <kvothetech> too many parentheses
[07:40] <kylescottmcgill> i mean verbose
[07:40] <elky> kvothetech, i don't, i'm just making sure that people who do need it have space to ask it here.
[07:41] <average_drifter> elky: you have my complete support :)
[07:42] <kylescottmcgill> same if people need a hand with something
[07:43] <yacks> that waa typo... sorry...
[07:43] <yacks> was*
[07:43] <average_drifter> 09:36 < yacks> help
[07:43] <average_drifter> yacks: this was the typo ?
[07:44] <yacks> sorry, i typied in 'help' instead of irc '/HELP' command...
[07:45] <average_drifter> yacks: oh cool. if you need Ubuntu help you can always use the hoarde of bots here in this channel ( e.g. ubottu )
[07:45] <dr_willis> one info bot is a hoarde..
[07:49] <yacks> thanks average_drifter!
[08:01] <ericab> HAPPY NEW YEAR !
[08:03] <topper4125> Happy New Year, ericab
[08:09] <Noskcaj> could someone confirm bug 1094997
[08:10] <Em_> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Netbook (Lenovo G480 Intel Core i5, 400GB HDD, 4GB RAM, 1GB GPU). The distro is already installed; however some of the hardware drivers like the GPU, Ethernet, are not automatically installed leaving me unable to connect to the Internet. I really thought that all my notebook's hardware drivers will be installed automatically with the OS, so how do I install it without Internet connection?
[08:11] <bazhang> !offline | Em_
[08:11] <cfhowlett> Em_: depending on the hardware, some offline configuration is possible
[08:12] <cyphase> Happy PST New Year!
[08:12] <Em_> ubottu: sorry, but I don't follow.
[08:13] <cfhowlett> Em_: I might have the solution for you but you need to do a bit of terminal work ...
[08:13] <Em_> cfhowlett: Would mind giving me the step-by-step solution?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> Em_: open terminal and paste the following:  lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[08:15] <dr_willis> Em_:  You mean the Wired networking is not working? or Wireless?
[08:15] <Em_> dr_willis, the wires, the GPU, I don't know the others since I don't know how to determine if the drivers were installed
[08:15] <dr_willis> Em_:  determine your video card (thats what cfhowlett  command will help tell us)
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Em_: I'm on ubuntu studio 12.04, i.e. xubuntu based.  Different from what you're using.  But I THINK you type "terminal" in the search grid and you'll get a terminal
[08:16] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-t for terminal in unity by default
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Em_: the command I sent will ID your wifi chip
[08:16] <Em_> ok, please give me a moment.
[08:16] <dr_willis> if the Wired chipset is not working.. thats.. somewhat rare.
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Em_: if it's broadcom 43XX we can use this tutorial to bring you online   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xxeme
[08:17] <dr_willis> lspci output will also let us determin your video chipset.
[08:20] <Em_> Oh ok
[08:21] <cfhowlett> Em_: lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4  HOPEFULLY the output includes "BCM43xx" wirless LAN Controller ...
[08:21] <Em_> result: 03.00.0 Network controller p0280]: Broadcom Corportaion BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless Lan Controller [14e4:4727] (rev 01) Subsystem: Broadcom Corportaion Device [14e4:0587]
[08:21] <topper4125> winner!
[08:21] <cfhowlett> Em_: smile, son.  we can do this!
[08:22] <arabi> hellp
[08:22] <Em_> cfhowlett: What am I supposed to do next?
[08:23] <arabi> I have customized export PS1="\[\e[28;1m\]\w \[\e[0m\]\$ "   where I want to put it permenantly to have the change
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Em_: I used the STA - No Internet access method on that url I sent you.  All files were included in the ubuntu iso, but it might be different in 12.10.  Please take a look at the link, STA - No Internet Access section
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Em_: again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xxeme
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Em_: note: you MUST have the install media
[08:24] <Em_> cfhowlett: Install Media? Like what?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Em_: USB stick?
[08:24] <arabi> ./profile or ./bashrc or ./bash_profile     to put export PS1="\[\e[28;1m\]\w \[\e[0m\]\$ "  I am confused nyone help me out
[08:24] <topper4125> USB stick works
[08:25] <Em_> Yeah, I do have a USB stick
[08:25] <dr_willis> arabi:  at the end or .profile should work
[08:25] <Em_> cfhowlett: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. << The link that you gave me
[08:25] <dr_willis> arabi:  one of those files has a prompt setting in it allready.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Em_: I'm LOOKING at the page ... wait one
[08:25] <OerHeks> - eme
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Em_: try again:       https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xxeme
[08:26] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:26] <cfhowlett> OerHeks: thanks.  em_ use that link instead
[08:26] <dr_willis> .bashrc:    PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1"
[08:26] <arabi> dr_willis, I accidently edited bashrc how can I get the defults back?
[08:26] <Em_> Ok
[08:26] <dr_willis> arabi:  loook in /etc/skel for the original
[08:27] <arabi> dr_willis, can I copy an paste from that?
[08:27] <dr_willis> arabi:  or just  the file to your home.
[08:27] <Em_> cfhowlett: A wireless network is currently unavailable for me, so I'd rather have the wired network or driver installed instead.
[08:27] <dr_willis> /etc/skel$ ls -a
[08:28] <dr_willis> .  ..  .bash_logout  .bashrc  examples.desktop  .profile
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Em_: the method I've used doesn't require a network.
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Em_: and the result is a working wifi ...
[08:28] <dr_willis> Em_:  how new is this laptop? if you can determine its wired chipset.  that might make things easier if you can run a cable to it.
[08:29] <dr_willis> its rather unusual for a wired network card to not work.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> dr_willis: should we prioritize the wired and THEN the wireless?
[08:29] <arabi> dr_willis, I have put export PS1="\[\e[28;1m\]\w \[\e[0m\]\$ "   in ~/.profile but not working why?
[08:29] <dr_willis> cfhowlett:  i have to wonder why his wired is not working.
[08:30] <dr_willis> arabi:  you started a new shell?
[08:30] <Em_> How do I determine if the wireless network is installed already?
[08:30] <arabi> yes
[08:30] <cfhowlett> Em_: plug it in to a router.
[08:30] <dr_willis> arabi:  .pofile is read on initial logn i think. try 'source .profile'
[08:30] <Em_> cfhowlett: No, I mean how do I determine if the WiFi driver is already installed along with Ubuntu?
[08:31] <Em_> is there like something like Device Manager like in Windows?
[08:31] <arabi> dr_willis, done boss... not it is working .. thanks and happy newyear
[08:31] <dr_willis> wifi connection tool/icon at the top right of the panels/screen
[08:31] <cfhowlett> Em_: I understood that your networking was completely unavailable.  Not true?
[08:32] <Em_> Uhhm, I think that the wireless adapater is already installed
[08:32] <cfhowlett> Em_: ah ... then we need not mess with that!
[08:32] <Em_> However, there are no available wi-fi network that I can connect to as of the moment. But I can connect to an Ethernet networ. Problem is I can''t connect to it, as I plug the Ethernet cable, it wouldn't recognize it
[08:34] <cfhowlett> Em_: forgive me for confusing the issue.
[08:34] <topper4125> Em_ are you sure the router isn't locked down to the point that even a machine plugged into it will not be allowed on (mac block for example)?
[08:34] <Em_> topper4125: yeah, that is not the case.
[08:35] <Em_> cfhowlett: I think what i need is to install the ethernet port/LAN driver
[08:35] <topper4125> k... its just odd that a hardwired connection doesn't just 'work'...
[08:35] <theadmin> So... what's the countdown on ubuntu.com all about?
[08:36] <Em_> how do i determine if my gpu driver is already installed?
[08:36] <OerHeks> theadmin, see http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/01/ubuntu-teases-touch-os/
[08:37] <theadmin> Em_: Well, if X works *some* GPU driver is likely installed, to check which you could "lsmod | grep drivername" (e.g. "lsmod | grep fglrx")
[08:37] <dr_willis> Em_:  look at the lspci output and determina your video chipset/card
[08:38] <topper4125> countdown to ubuntu for android
[08:38] <dr_willis> if you plug in the wired cable and  then from a terminal a few moments later run 'dmesg' it might give some info about the wired connection also
[08:38] <ViperXL75> hi... How do I check in ubuntu what hardware of Burner I habe?
[08:38] <dr_willis> topper4125:  i wont hold my breath. :)
[08:38] <theadmin> Ok, so I have this new Android phone which has no USB Mass Storage support, only PTP/MTP. Whichever I use, KDE's mounting applet thingy only mounts it read-only, which is not cool. Mounting via the command-line works, but that's kinda troublesome. Anyone know a solution? The phone is Galaxy Nexus.
[08:38] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[08:38] <topper4125> lol
[08:38] <Em_> theadmin, drivername? where will I know that?
[08:38] <theadmin> Em_: Oh, okay, err...
[08:39] <dr_willis> theadmin:   how are you mounting via the command line?
[08:39] <ViperXL75> ah nice
[08:39] <theadmin> dr_willis: "mtpfs somedirectory"
[08:40] <john___> hello i want to ask a question
[08:40] <topper4125> !ask
[08:40] <theadmin> john___: Just do it
[08:40] <dr_willis> theadmin:  ive not noticed/seen a specific auto-mounting fix.. yet.  just some scripots that basically do the commands :()
[08:40] <theadmin> dr_willis: There's a Unity panel applet (?) that does this quite awesomely, but switching to Unity just for that seems extreme
[08:40] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i just use ssh these days.  rarely ever plug in the wire.
[08:41] <john___> dose any one know MB-ruler like program
[08:41] <dr_willis> theadmin:  make your own widgit? ;)
[08:41] <theadmin> dr_willis: Good point, yeah, transferring over Airdroid works though
[08:41] <dr_willis> MB-Ruler is?
[08:41] <theadmin> john___: What's that do?
[08:41] <dr_willis> theadmin:  airdroid is handy
[08:41] <dr_willis> I get such slow transfers over usb at times. i rarely use usb.
[08:41] <john___> program allow you to draw a line on screen
[08:41] <john___> useing mouse
[08:42] <dr_willis> and this line does what?
[08:42] <Em_> here, i run lspci and i think i have VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd  Gen Cor processor Grpahics Controller (rev 09) and VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation device 1058 (rev a1)
[08:42] <theadmin> Em_: Ouch, dual graphics. Well, to get the NVidia driver you'll need to "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[08:42] <dr_willis> Em_:  most intel video cards drivers are allready installed by default. BUT you seem to have 2 cards? so this PC is using that Dual GPU Optimus stuff?
[08:42] <john___> dr_willis , nothing only draw line i use it on doing some work on
[08:43] <topper4125> !mtpaint | john___
[08:43] <topper4125> !info mtpaint | john___
[08:43] <dr_willis> john___:  huh? You want just a Line to show on the screen on the normal desktop?
[08:43] <dr_willis> or you want a paint program?
[08:43] <dr_willis> compiz has all sorts of weird plugins like 'fire' and so forth to do fancy eyecandy drawing on top of the desktop
[08:44] <theadmin> dr_willis: http://www.markus-bader.de/MB-Ruler/screenshot.htm - seems to be this thing
[08:45] <john___> dr_willis , yep it help wen i am working on website and i want to see if every thing is on the same line
[08:45] <dr_willis> You could just try mbruler in wine.
[08:45] <Em_> i guess it would be better or easier If I can connect my notebook to a Wi=Fi network right?
[08:45] <theadmin> !info screenruler | john___
[08:46] <OerHeks> !info screenruler
[08:46] <OerHeks> ah theadmin found it too
[08:46] <dr_willis> udo apt-get install screenruler
[08:46] <dr_willis> doh
[08:47] <dr_willis> how about -->  sudo apt-get install screenruler
[08:47] <topper4125> third times a charm ;)
[08:48]  * dr_willis holds a real ruler up to his screen.....
[08:49] <topper4125> <--- eyeballs it and says "Ehh... close enough"
[08:50] <topper4125> ... guess that's why I don't get paid the big bucks
[08:50] <dr_willis> ocular ruler scale implants. ;)
[08:51] <topper4125> lol
[08:56] <hackibnblack> What's going on with Jan 2nd?
[08:58] <hackibnblack> What's going on Jan second
[08:59] <astropirate> mayan apoclypse
[08:59] <astropirate> round 2
[08:59] <cfhowlett> hackibnblack: 12/12/12?
[08:59] <topper4125> for me personally, I get to go back to work on the second... Poltically we in the US get to find out how deep the cliff is... did you want anything more specific?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> hackibnblack: no, ubuntu for android is the rumour
[09:00] <hackibnblack> So it's fake bo android ubuntu ?
[09:00] <hackibnblack> No*
[09:01] <OerHeks> hackibnblack, wait and see
[09:01] <cfhowlett> hackibnblack: ubuntu for android has been under development for a while.  Note: I said it's RUMORED that 1/2/13 is the release
[09:01] <cfhowlett> hackibnblack: check back tomorrow
[09:01] <hackibnblack> I hope they release it that would be sick
[09:02] <topper4125> there are vids of it on youtube... really not impressed myself... but that's just me
[09:02] <theadmin> Well, I have two guesses: Ubuntu for Android or Ubuntu TV
[09:03] <OerHeks> and phone
[09:03] <hackibnblack> Well it's big for ubuntu and I support ubuntu / open source 199%
[09:04] <topper4125> or maybe the're adopting Gubuntu in to the *buntu family (An official release of Ubuntu with the Gnome Desktop?) lol
[09:04]  * cfhowlett thinks "only 199%"?  
[09:05] <theadmin> topper4125: That has nothing to do with "touching". That's obviously a hint
[09:05] <topper4125> I'm actually surprised that hasn't shown up yet on Distrowatch
[09:05] <hackibnblack> Yea only 199%
[09:06] <theadmin> topper4125: Well, gnomebuntu.com has been up for a while
[09:09] <newbie|2> theadmin, just went there.. looks like its under construction gubuntu is up and running, just not listed on distrowatch yet.
[09:13] <shingdayho> Hey!
[09:13] <cfhowlett> shingdayho: nihao
[09:14] <idruta> hi everyone
[09:15] <cfhowlett> idruta: greetings
[09:19] <topper4125> Thinking that countdown has to be for android... found a video of ubuntu 10.10 running on touch
[09:19] <topper4125> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vwt11GMc3g
[09:20] <ElectricPrism> how do I get to the official linuxmint channel? Is it on this server? I tried joining and got sent to ##linuxmint
[09:21] <nightfly_> ElectricPrism: just a guess, but is your nick registered and authed?
[09:21] <Noskcaj> ElectricPrism, Official support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[09:22] <ElectricPrism> Noskcaj: Ill try it, im authed for sure. I was hoping to ask their users why they prefer that specific distro should prove an interesting conversation since I can't get into it for some reason
[09:22] <topper4125> Official support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[09:24] <topper4125> one of the reasons I don't use mint is because of some of the political views of the founder
[09:25] <Thundarr> interesting. like what? have a link I can read up?
[09:25] <ElectricPrism> Their art really was a turnoff for me personally, could never get into their style
[09:26] <topper4125> he's one of those tinfoil hat wearing holocost denying guys... http://jay4rest.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/linux-mint-founder-is-against-israel/
[09:27] <ElectricPrism> fascinating
[09:27] <Thundarr> lol. wow.
[09:27] <Thundarr> yeah that kind of stunts my interest in it.
[09:29] <ElectricPrism> I just dont understand why its @ the top of distrowatch, I have no problem supporting a company that wants to see profit from their creation
[09:29] <Thundarr> israel should officially adopt linux mint as their distro of choice.
[09:29] <Thundarr> heh
[09:30] <ElectricPrism> XD
[09:30] <Thundarr> I'm just trying to decide what to run
[09:30] <Thundarr> word is that win 9 is going even more heavily into the 'tile' crap of 8
[09:31] <topper4125> I have no problem with monitization in linux... with big money comes big developers (steam for example)
[09:31] <ElectricPrism> I'm running Sabayon right now, I like a lot of things about Ubuntu based distros. Thundarr: Yeah, Windows 8 made me officially move to linux, now all I need is photoshop running fairly well so I can continue work for clients
[09:32] <topper4125> I think if steam can show a big profit other software houses like Adobe will follow them
[09:32] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: if adobe followed along with steam I think windows would crumble
[09:32] <topper4125> yup me too! :D
[09:33] <theadmin> topper4125: So far Adobe is doing completely the opposite. They dropped Flash for Linux, for instance.
[09:33] <ElectricPrism> interesting, gotta admit I never was a fan of flash, but the lack of it sucks for sure
[09:34] <theadmin> ElectricPrism: They'll continue to provide security updates for 5 years or something, after that Flash will only be available as part of Google Chrome
[09:34] <theadmin> Mozilla also wokrs on their own Flash implementation
[09:34] <topper4125> Steam said something along the lines of "the future of gaming is *not* in windows"... if that is true... and for as big as gaming is financially... Linux has a huge opertunity to grow.
[09:35] <Thundarr> blah. valve just said all that crap because their own market is going to conflict with windows marketplace.
[09:35] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I agree, I actually foregoe console gaming and own a number of steam games. I just love that on the computer my games will run in all future OS versions unlike PS 1 > PS 2 > PS3 > PS 4, etc...
[09:35] <Malsasa_> Yes, and game platforms are not Steam only :) There are another platform beside Steam :) CMIIW
[09:36] <Thundarr> more games just need to run in a browser like quake live
[09:36] <Thundarr> thats pretty damn awesome cross compatibility there
[09:36] <ElectricPrism> Malsasa_: But I could see Steam deciding to base a open source distro on FreeBSD if they wanted to maintain the base, otherwise yeah they'd just have Canonical handle all the linux work since GPL pretty much forces everyone to open their work up
[09:37] <ElectricPrism> Thundarr: Oh I agree, especially with WebGL games
[09:37] <ElectricPrism> meh #linuxmint-help wasn't that helpful, they just told me to run the livecd and that it was pretty much ubuntu but not explaining how it differed QQ
[09:37] <topper4125> that *is* something M$ has said in the past "the future of computing is 100% cloud, os,apps, data everything. for some reason, that scares me a bit, but it seems that they are trying to make that their future
[09:38] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I think businesses are smarter than trusting the cloud* if not- they'll learn the hard way imo
[09:38] <topper4125> 'tis true ElectricPrism
[09:38] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: plus I would think business owners are control freaks and would like their data stored locally - I wouldn't mind having apps in the cloud, but not my personal data
[09:40] <ElectricPrism> I learned the other day that Debian has a official forum - I was surprised though at how little activity it has compared to the ubuntu forums
[09:41] <ElectricPrism> Ubuntu Forum Posts: 11,795,654   Debian Forum Posts: 439,573
[09:41] <topper4125> with plugins like firesheep out there showing how easy exploits can be exposed.. you would think everyone fear personal info in the air and in the cloud. but then again M$ still has a lot to learn when it comes to computer security doesn't it? Lol
[09:42] <ElectricPrism> I'm in favor of the idea that bad security comes from bad programmers
[09:43] <ElectricPrism> I often hear arguments that php is insecure, but the reality is that php has a lot more code created by developers, and the quality of the code is less because the language is soo popular
[09:43] <Thundarr> watching Tron Uprising. This show is gorgeous.
[09:43] <ElectricPrism> a cartoon?
[09:43] <Thundarr> lot of known voice talent too
[09:43] <Thundarr> its cgi
[09:44] <Thundarr> its beautiful. the style is amazing. lot of love goes into it.
[09:44] <ElectricPrism> seeing tron in the metreon really was inspiring
[09:44] <ElectricPrism> the style looks cool
[09:45] <ElectricPrism> has anyone ever tried ripping dpkg out of a debian distro and grafting it onto say gentoo or arch?
[09:46] <topper4125> ElectricPrism, not me personally... I ran Arch for about 6 months and came back to ubuntu w/ Xfce DE
[09:47] <topper4125> I liked arch, but I spent too much time babysitting the OS... IMHO
[09:47] <Catbuntu> Arch is... :(
[09:47] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I have arch on my laptop and it's been an enlighening experience, but I admit I really miss Ubuntu Software Center and the vast number of packages on ubuntu, the #1 reason I value it
[09:47] <Catbuntu> I like XFCE.
[09:47] <Catbuntu> But it's too "conservative" for me, I preffer Unity, gnome-panel or Cinnamon.
[09:48] <Catbuntu> brb
[09:48] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: Yeah, that makes sense - It's really cool to be running SystemD, I find it easier to control services, but I don't need a highly secure system although I hate having software I dont know about since linux is soo vast in its software, and the names are cryptic and confusing
[09:48] <topper4125> Catbuntu XFCE is my fav DE... just the speed, and customization of it are perfect for me.
[09:49] <ElectricPrism> Catbuntu: I can't remember if it was XFCE or LXDE, one of those had a beautiful Alt+F2 run dialog, but I just can't get into unity
[09:49] <topper4125> ElectricPrism, ya that's my problem too...
[09:49] <ElectricPrism> ya
[09:49] <Malsasa_> topper4125: i like KDE :)
[09:49] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I thought about creating a linux accronym dictionary because stuff like /etc/fstab really should be named /config/filesystem-table
[09:50] <ElectricPrism> but I also respect that having the unix filesystem gives linux strength as a Unic operating system
[09:50] <Malsasa_> ElectricPrism: we can create a wallpaper from that dictionary
[09:50] <topper4125> I did find that installing Ubuntu-mini and building my system up from scratch about as good as and Arch install...
[09:50] <ElectricPrism> :)
[09:50] <TheFlipside> can someoney tell me what the countdown on the ubuntu website is for?
[09:50] <topper4125> ... if you're into minimal install idealls
[09:51] <topper4125> best guess TheFlipside, is Ubuntu for Android
[09:51] <TheFlipside> ah thanks
[09:51] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: Good point, I actually dislike that pacman file manager's options are again "cryptic" and "confusing"
[09:52] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: Imagine me trying to instruct me to give my wife instructions over the phone on the correct pacman command to update the system - "you're gonna have a bad time"
[09:52] <topper4125> I had a couple 'plug-ins' for pacman that kind of made it act like apt-get, it was a little easier, but not much
[09:52] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: how do I get the minimal install - I would love to use that, it sounds good
[09:53] <snx> where can I get ubuntu 13 iso
[09:53] <theadmin> ElectricPrism: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:53] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: yaoucht was pretty cool but then again the name was dumb, kindof like when you're a n00b and you're trying to remember how to spell nautilus
[09:53] <topper4125> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD 50 MBish download
[09:53] <ElectricPrism> ty
[09:53] <kylescottmcgill> :o they still compile that
[09:53] <kylescottmcgill> ....
[09:53] <ElectricPrism> 34mb XD, nice
[09:53] <kylescottmcgill> i thought they stopped after 9
[09:53] <topper4125> yup... its good for systems that don
[09:53] <topper4125> ... dont have PAE
[09:54] <kylescottmcgill> -_- i can feel myself rebuilding my desktop tonight
[09:54] <OerHeks> snx @ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ plus support in #ubuntu+1
[09:54] <topper4125> nice thing about mini... wifi works out of the box... unlike arch...
[09:55] <kylescottmcgill> i love arch, but i suffer from that and more on a mac :(
[09:55] <ElectricPrism> I gotta admit that the one that I really wanted on ubuntu that I lacked was fbcondecor and plymouth, usplash looks like garbage on my 260gtx and I love having a background image on my TTY1, makes my OS look pro
[09:55] <shikata_ga_nai> happy new year err'body.
[09:56] <snx> happy new year
[09:56] <ElectricPrism> OMG I just got into Sublime Text 2, their new release is soo amazing, I loved Notepad++ but couldn't get into Geany or GEdit, soo glad to have it
[09:56] <ElectricPrism> Wait... did they switch from USplash to Plymouth?
[09:56] <topper4125> not sure
[09:56] <ElectricPrism> I see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[09:57] <dr_willis> Plymouth is the default on ubuntu for quite some time now
[09:57] <kylescottmcgill> ElectricPrism: Sublime is mint
[09:57] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: What does that mean, mint as in prime?
[09:57] <kylescottmcgill> mint as in its awesome
[09:57] <ElectricPrism> oic, cool! yeah they're the bomb and they're cross platform :)
[09:58] <kylescottmcgill> ya, its like the only software i feel proud to have brought, like it went to a good cause sorta thing
[09:58] <Catbuntu> back
[09:58] <kylescottmcgill> ... wasnt a waste of money is better said
[09:58] <ElectricPrism> dr_willis - maybe its my grub2 resolution then idk why bootup is so glitchy, I just can't wait till ubuntu switches to SystemD and possibly Wayland - although nowadays we're finally getting abilities that make X Server Screen hosting on another computer useful - It just took 30 years
[09:59] <dr_willis> you can set Grub2 to use a Text mode boot menu.
[09:59] <kylescottmcgill> ElectricPrism: you can change your grub2 boot settings to accomodate for your larger screen size
[09:59] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: Do you get any additional features from buying it? I know they're very liberal and dont limit a trial period
[10:00] <kylescottmcgill> ElectricPrism: none what so ever, trial version is supposed to be limited at some time in the near future i believe
[10:00] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: Yeah, I might need to, I'm not sure really, what I do know is my Samsung SyncMaster 710n dual 17" 1280x1024 aren't probably identified in Ubuntu so I need to set the resolution using xrandr :( QQ
[10:01] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[10:01] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: I need to finish a client project and purchase a license, software I'd be proud to own
[10:02] <ElectricPrism> I wiped out my 2tb volume using DD to all zeros, and now I've been copying 850,000 files and it's minuets away from completion, its been running since 48 hours ago - I'm soo stoked!
[10:02] <kylescottmcgill> lol sorry to hear your bad luck
[10:02] <ElectricPrism> A friend of mine told me that hard drives above 2TB have the data too condensed that it's starting to have problems reading and writing as clearly though, I wish I had the source
[10:03] <topper4125> I've only donated to 3 software houses :( Sent money to the Gimp, ZorinOS (cuz its pretty) and Canonical.
[10:03] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: My bad luck was caused by Windows chkdisk, It destroyed my NTFS $MFT because I used the drive often in Ubuntu, since then I got a 3TB EXT4 that I'm enjoying
[10:04] <ElectricPrism> having 10 years of files stuck in limbo is super lame though
[10:04] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[10:04] <ElectricPrism> Shoulda bought a NAS instead of a Raid 1 mirror QQ
[10:05] <morfeo_81> hi there
[10:05] <morfeo_81> Happy new year!!!
[10:05] <ElectricPrism> If I enabled the unstable repos would it be the same as running Ubuntu as a rolling release distro?
[10:06] <morfeo_81> How can createpermantly  ubuntu on usb external drive with my preference
[10:06] <kylescottmcgill> I havnt done that, but i think it wouldnt be like using Arch, i think unstable is more or less things are going to break, etc
[10:06] <kylescottmcgill> morfeo_81: do you mean an installation on a USB Drive?
[10:07] <ElectricPrism> you need a motherboard that can boot from usb, and a USB ideally 16GB+ I imagine it'd be simple, USB 3 is better, USB 2 is doable
[10:07] <topper4125> ElectricPrism, ya I think that gives puts your system on the bleeding edge of releases. (read into that a lot of breaking and babysitting of the OS)
no I mean to have ubuntu portable on different computer with my preference
[10:09] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I think I like the idea of rolling release better, Im tired of Sabayon and others having old software like Gnome 3.4 instead of 3.6, maybe I'll try to make it work with Unity,
[10:09] <Catbuntu> Which is the best DE Gnome2-like, Cinnamon or XFCE?
[10:09] <kylescottmcgill> oh right, i think you might have some issues with things like GFX Drivers and Wifi drivers etc, not to mention different CPU types, but i think you can, just install to a USB opposed to your HDD, and you will need to make sure you have a MBR on the USB
[10:09] <topper4125> ah... ya I'm the opposit with that... gimmie stability! :D
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !best|Catbuntu:
[10:10] <ElectricPrism> In unity I can't stand two things: The menu is on the left and I have no options to move it to the bottom, and 2) The close, max, min window controls when maximized are hidden in the global menu bar - has anyone solved either of these?
[10:10] <Catbuntu> Well, I know.
[10:10] <Catbuntu> I mean technicaly.
[10:10] <Catbuntu> GTK2/GTK3, etc.
[10:10] <auronandace> ElectricPrism: you don't solve them, they are like that by design
[10:10] <ElectricPrism> Catbuntu: Cinnamon almost won me over
[10:11] <kylescottmcgill> ElectricPrism: i believe there is app that gives you more control over the menu bar, but generally i use Gnome 3 (PPA is 3.6) or Awesome WM, which is a Tiling Window Manager
[10:11] <topper4125> the only way I solved it was to switch to XFCE... Unity destroys freedom to customize the desktop
[10:11] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: What is a Tiling Window Manager, I hear it mentioned a lot
[10:11] <ElectricPrism> amen
[10:12] <ElectricPrism> I would accept it, I even like the global menu and menu search, but those two things hurt my workflow
[10:12] <kylescottmcgill> The windows dont float naturally, evetyhing is more or less bound to the keyboard, so when im swapping apps i rarely use the mouse
[10:13] <morfeo_81> Best way to get portable Ubuntu on USB Drive?
[10:13] <ElectricPrism> in windows I had the panel on the bottom and a dock on each side of my screen to quickly launch work folders, etc... and I have 4:3 monitors so the whole design for "widescreen" doesn't benefit me :(
[10:13] <kylescottmcgill> Check out Google Images, you will be sure to find some examples, just get ready for a lot of work, normally there is a GUI to configure a Tiling Window manager, normally its in a scripting language
[10:13] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: are the windows always fullscreen? because I find TTY1-7 just like having open tabs in Firefox and totally useful
[10:13] <ElectricPrism> ah
[10:14] <kylescottmcgill> Sort of
[10:14] <ElectricPrism> has anyone tired E17 since their 1.0 release?
[10:14] <topper4125> If you think 4:3 is harsh with Unity... try a netbook form factor 1024X600... there's a lot of lost desktop usage with only 600 vertical pixles...
[10:15] <ElectricPrism> owch
[10:15] <ElectricPrism> firefox on that would be painful with its menu bars
[10:15] <kylescottmcgill> lol topper4125 you sir, need a Xmonad, or Awesome :D
[10:15] <ElectricPrism> The more I delve into linux, the more that I find myself a minority in the world, soo sad...
[10:15] <deniska> Hello. 3.2.0-35-generic-pae kernel, Samsung NP350 series laptop, after suspend to ram fn key is sticky
[10:16] <topper4125> I've been hearing a lot about xmonad lately.. might have to look into it
[10:16] <deniska> Like f2 acts like fn+f2 (brightness down)
[10:16] <kylescottmcgill> Its in Haskell, so good luck :)
[10:16] <ElectricPrism> yeah, I only know about it from lunduke.com personally, but hm
[10:17] <topper4125> Lunduke... I wish he'd return to Linux Action Show...
[10:17] <ElectricPrism> When I look up xmonad I see this picture and I run like hell: http://www.haskell.org/wikiupload/a/aa/Screen-triplehead-galois.jpg
[10:17] <ElectricPrism> He was really a down to earth dude, and I felt like he thought how I thought
[10:17] <kylescottmcgill> deniska: you could hack it to reset/unset the FN keys Stickey, inside .profile or an autostart file, other than that i dont know if there is a setting for it
[10:17] <topper4125> me too
[10:18] <ElectricPrism> maybe I'll return to gentoo
[10:18] <ElectricPrism> I mean ubuntu, from gentoo
[10:18] <kylescottmcgill> Xmonad is really nice, really fast, but a lot of tweaking until you get it setup the way you like
[10:19] <topper4125> If you really want a challenge... could give linux from scratch a try... I can't make it past Chapter one with out drooling and falling asleep... but that's just me
[10:19] <ElectricPrism> kylescottmcgill: Why is it that performance is such a problem in the nix* world, does everyone just have mid to low range hardware idk
[10:20] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I would love to, but honestly there starts to be too many distros to keep up on in the X world
[10:20] <ElectricPrism> topper4125: I could loose myself in the accroynm ocean really fast and forget I'm alive
[10:21] <bazhang> !ot | ElectricPrism
[10:22] <topper4125> ElectricPrism, yup... that's where I fall apart when reading the Linux from scratch book, once I get to the compilers, and permissions... i'm out
[10:22] <ElectricPrism> Awesome Window Manager looks really productive, I would use it just to try, but I think when I install Ubuntu next time I'm gonna load on the Pantheon DE, I love how its shaping up
[10:22] <bazhang> ElectricPrism, this is not the chat channel
[10:22] <kylescottmcgill> ElectricPrism: i have a lot running, and lot going on when im developing, so i would rather my system working for me, rather than against me with things i deem to be useless like File Previews, or services i dont use
[10:23] <ElectricPrism> totally
[10:23] <kylescottmcgill> lol sorry i got carried away too, if someone needs a hand let me know :)
[10:24] <ElectricPrism> I thought people would be cool just talking about linux / ubuntu stuff but I guess it's no okay when there's no one with questions to help
[10:24] <ElectricPrism> anways I'm out to the hot tube, enjoyed the conversation, ttyl bros
[10:26] <Guest67899> -NickServ- yes I do I want that same name
[10:27] <joey8> Guest67899➤ tough!
[10:28] <Guest67899> I'm not getting on my Ubuntu install Xmms 12:10
[10:28] <kylescottmcgill> to think there is another 67898 guests online
[10:29] <joey8> surely not - its just a next_number isnt it?
[10:31] <kylescottmcgill> *shrugs*
[10:31] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:32] <cfhowlett> floridsdorf: greetings
[10:33] <floridsdorf> happy new year
[10:34] <newb_> hi, and happy new year to all :>
[10:35] <nasserash> newb_, happy new year :)
[10:35] <newb_> can anyone help me please to find a program which could control the speed of the fans in my system like how Speedfan used to do for me under Windows?
[10:35] <Brunbook> good day, I can not install XMMS on my Ubuntu 12.10 can someone help me?
[10:36] <newb_> they are too noisy now
[10:36] <dr_willis> !xmms
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Brunbook: xmms2 is in the universe repository
[10:36] <dr_willis> theres other media players/music players also
[10:37] <theadmin> Wow, xmms, that's a name I haven't heard in a while
[10:37] <topper4125> !info fancontrol | newb_
[10:37]  * dr_willis wonders how HUGE a download winamp is these days.
[10:38] <topper4125> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[10:38] <dr_willis> ;) the good old days when people just had to have everything themeable..
[10:38] <newb_> ubottu: thank you, I have a look at it
[10:39] <newb_> :B
[10:39] <serp_> thats what a smart ai would say to avoid detwction
[10:39] <topper4125> dr_willis 11mb for free and 15mb for full (+$20.00) ouch
[10:40] <serp_> in other news, WinZip is in version 17
[10:40] <OerHeks> dr_willis, 270 kb v1,82 in 1997
[10:40] <topper4125> I'm sure half that download is the license agreement
[10:41] <dencrypt> people still use winzip?
[10:41] <serp_> and toolbars
[10:42] <topper4125> I figured that after EVERY OS built Zip support into themselves WinZip would ahve died.
[10:45] <theadmin> topper4125: Yeah, kinda weird that paid archivers like WinZIP and WinRAR still exist
[10:46] <topper4125> how come no one has developed a Linux GUI for this: http://www.crazypc.com/other/misc/toast.htm
[10:47] <Squall5668> looks like it needs a lot of spare watts...
[10:51] <dr_willis> best Case Mod thing i ever got was these little Drive Bay Drawers  to keep cd's and flash drives in. ;)
[10:51] <newb_> topper4125 : Thank you, it's working
[10:51] <topper4125> No problem newb_ happy new year
[10:51] <newb_> you too
[10:51] <dr_willis> Now this would be interesting on a Server box. -> http://www.crazypc.com/products/cooljag-ef4-12-5680F12.html
[10:52] <topper4125> I've seen those on a few youtube vids... they're pretty interesting.
[10:54] <dr_willis> be neat if you could send cpu load and other info to  a fan with leds. ;)
[10:54] <dr_willis> oh well.. night time for me.. bbl
[10:56] <newb_> bye
[10:57] <topper4125> dr_willis, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoDVhunos6E demo of that fan you were looking at
[10:57] <topper4125> oh.. oops he's gone
[11:09] <topper4125> well, I think i'm going galt... see ya
[11:14] <Emanon> Wow this actually works pretty well in Thunderbird.
[11:14] <bs123> what?
[11:14] <Emanon> Aparrently Thunderbird has built in chat+irc now.
[11:15] <Emanon> And it's actually usable.
[11:15] <bs123> huh didn't know that
[11:15] <bs123> i run the windows version
[11:15] <bs123> hmm i wonder
[11:16] <Emanon> Does anyone know if Thunderbird support SASL authentication with IRC so I can use FreeNode via TOR?
[11:16] <rabbi1> Happy new year !!
[11:17] <Emanon> Happy new year rabbi1
[11:17] <Emanon> Darn it doesn't have tab completion.
[11:18] <Cong> What methods are there to remove items from the gnome-panel on Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:19] <Emanon> Guess I'm still using Pidgin. I love me some tab completion.
[11:19] <tenX> Emanon: props to pidgin
[11:20] <Emanon> Yea, I only wish it existed on Android.
[11:20] <Cong> Yuck! Pidgin.
[11:20] <Emanon> Kind of a pain to get SASL patched for Pidgin though.
[11:20] <tenX> Cong: why?
[11:21] <tenX> Emanon: sasl?
[11:21] <bs123tbird> ha
[11:22] <Cong> tenX, it just is.
[11:22] <Emanon> A type of authentication. Freenode requires it for any connection coming through their onion.
[11:22] <bs123tbird> emanon thanx for the tip....windows version has a client too in tbird
[11:22] <tenX> Emanon: familiar with sasl basically, just wondering about irc usage thx
[11:23] <Emanon> Yea, you have to be sasl compatible to use freenode through tor.
[11:23] <tenX> Cong: for whatever reason
[11:23] <Cong> How am I suppose to remove files placed in the gnome-panel?
[11:23] <tenX> Emanon: k i c dont have anything to hide so far
[11:23] <Cong> tenX, for many reasons.
[11:24] <Emanon> I'd like to know how to remove entries in my apps panel too. I have a shortcut to a wine program that no longer exists that I would like to remove.
[11:24] <tenX> Cong: name at least one
[11:24] <Emanon> tenX: Tor isn't about having things to hide it's about having privacy there's a pretty big difference.
[11:26] <tenX> Emanon: who cares about some chat lines
[11:26] <Emanon> I don't have a whole lot to "hide" but I still shut the bathroom door when I'm in there. Some things you just prefer to keep between the people you choose.
[11:27] <tenX> Emanon: thats partially overrated
[11:28] <llutz> tenX: privacy can't be overrated
[11:29] <Emanon> If you leave data laying about everywhere it's far too easy for someone malicious to make an unflattering narrative of your actions. And while such a story might not be true it could very well be made up of facts, specifically the ones you left littered around.
[11:29] <tenX> llutz: principally not
[11:30] <Emanon> You're entitled to your position on the matter but I prefer not to be a data litterbug.
[11:30] <Cong> Emanon, press alt + win, right click, and left click remove.
[11:30] <tenX> Emanon: define the actual threat
[11:31] <Cong> If you're not buying something you're the thing being sold.
[11:31] <Emanon> Misrepresentation using factual statements in a dishonest fashion tenX
[11:32] <angs> what is the equivalent directory of cat /proc/bus/usb/devices on ubuntu?
[11:32] <tenX> Emanon: you caught me
[11:32] <Emanon> That alt+win right click thing didn't work.
[11:33] <Cong> on gnome-panel?
[11:33] <franco69> ciao
[11:33] <franco69> !list
[11:33] <Emanon> Not on the dock bar thing on the left, actually in the dashboard.
[11:34] <Cong> If it ain't gnome panel it ain't working on it.
[11:35] <Emanon> tenX: Have you seen anything with Jacob Appelbaum?
[11:36] <Emanon> He's one of the people who maintain Tor. He's freaking brilliant if you watch some of his speeches or interviews.
[11:36] <Emanon> He gives some awesome reasons why you don't have to be shady or paranoid to desire privacy.
[11:37] <tenX> Emanon: dont get me wrong. pretty familiar with the net
[11:37] <tenX> Emanon: i cut it down to this simple matter of irc chat
[11:37] <tenX> Emanon: something i personally dont care about
[11:37] <Emanon> I understand, and I actually agree with you a bit. I just know what people can do if you give them too much information that seems innocuous.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !ot
[11:38] <Ayie> Heyah
[11:38] <tenX> Emanon: individual view on things
[11:38] <Ayie> Heyah
[11:38] <tenX> Emanon: i'm with you
[11:38] <Ayie> :)
[11:40] <Emanon> Individual points of data may be harmless by themselves but when you get enough points of data you can do one of two things. You can get an accurate picture of something (whether or not it's you're business) and you can twist it to paint an inaccurate picture. Now most of the time you don't have to worry about this but in the event that you DO it's so devastating that you pretty much have to plan for the worst even if it's unlikely b
[11:41] <angs> I am following the instruction here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kernel/Debugging/USB sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb outputs mount: mount point /proc/bus/usb does not exist. what is the correct usage of that command?
[11:42] <Emanon> Think of some of the things you've said in public or in private. Now imagine if someone took just the worst things you've said and used them to make you look like a horrible person even though they might represent the smallest portion of your interactions or views.
[11:42] <Guest26068> e.e
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !ot|Gentle reminder ... #ubuntuofftopic is a more appropriate place for this non-support discussion.
[11:43] <Emanon> THAT is why most people who anonymize do so. Not just to get some cp or whatever.
[11:43] <Emanon> You're right cfhowlett sorry.
[11:43] <tenX> Emanon: cp?
[11:43] <Emanon> ot
[11:51] <Azmuth> hello ?
[11:52] <Guest1100101> hi, where is the string for add-apt-repository on this site https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-freefont ???
[11:52] <Night-hacks> after a while my ubuntu ssh server says "Permission denied, please try again." it happens after a month regularly !
[11:53] <Azmuth> anyone know how to install java rpm on ubuntu ?
[11:54] <Night-hacks> Azmuth: install java binary from Oracle site
[11:54] <Azmuth> Night-hacks: i downloaded rpm from java site but can't install it
[11:55] <Azmuth> i evern converted it into deb but it don't install properly
[11:55] <Night-hacks> Azmuth: download the tar version
[11:55] <Azmuth> Night-hacks: ok thanks for telling
[11:55] <franco69> ciao
[11:55] <Azmuth> i am new to ubuntu
[11:55] <franco69> !list
[11:59] <jonbaer> does anyone here use juju?
[11:59] <Night-hacks> any idea ?
[12:00] <_Trullo> night, could be the key that needs to be renewed?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Azmuth: what's the problem?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Azmuth: rpm is redhat package manager ... NOT a .deb which is what Ubuntu uses
[12:02] <havenew> http://t.co/AorgEQf9
[12:03] <Azmuth> nothing
[12:03] <Azmuth> i just resolved it with help
[12:03] <Guest1100101> hi, I can't find the string for add-apt-repository command for this site https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-freefont, can someone help?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Guest1100101: the launchpad site of the author should state installation instructions
[12:05] <dkessel> Guest1100101: you should not need a PPA to install ttf-freefont... it is a standard package
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Guest1100101: indeed, dkessel is correct.  the package is in the main repos.,.  sudo apt-get install ttf-freefont would do it.
[12:07] <Guest1100101> cfhowlett, dkessel: sorry, looking for otf-freefont
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Guest1100101: in the universe repos.   enable universe and run sudo apt-get install oft-freefont
[12:08] <cfhowlett> *otf*
[12:09] <Guest1100101> cfhowlett: not available on lucid ;-(
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Guest1100101: ahhh, ok.
[12:17] <blackline2> I managed to lock myself out of my user account when trying to disable and uninstall eCryptFS following this guide: http://virtually-a-machine.blogspot.se/2010/08/howto-disable-ecryptfs.html
[12:17] <blackline2> Anyone up for trying to help me out?
[12:18] <blackline2> As for the guide I did the exact same steps except from while moving the files with "mv Private/* ." which I did as sudo (maybe cause of error, don't know)
[12:19] <Azmuth> any good ubuntu downloader that is like idm and free ?
[12:19] <blackline2> Now when I try to log in to the desktop I get the message: "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority".
[12:19] <mangdood_> I'm trying to make a judgment whether I should upgrade to KUbuntu 12.10 or Ubuntu 12.10. I'm still using 12.04 (I think). How can I tell how well maintained Kubuntu is?
[12:19] <mangdood_> blackline2: I think it's because now your home folder is owned by root
[12:19] <kylescottmcgill> blackline2: try sudo chmod 777 .ICE.....
[12:20] <kylescottmcgill> or the above
[12:20] <Azmuth> mangdood_: ubuntu 12.04 is like is 12.10
[12:20] <blackline2> mangdood_, that was my guess to. how do I in a correct way make sure that it is owned by me?
[12:20] <kylescottmcgill> you could also chown the directory back to who you are
[12:20] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, actually i checked the permissions at that file and it was owned by me.
[12:20] <mangdood_> blackline2: sudo chown -R <homefolder>
[12:20] <kylescottmcgill> sudo chown -R <your-user>.<your-user> /home/<your-user>
[12:20] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, How do I chown the whole directory + content?
[12:21] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, thanks
[12:21] <kylescottmcgill> mangdood_: does chown use whoami as the default?
[12:21] <mangdood_> kylescottmcgill: I wouldn't know :p
[12:22] <kylescottmcgill> lol ok stick with mine, you should be sorted after that blackline2
[12:22] <Azmuth> i have downloaded java tar.gz package and extracted it,now how to install it ?
[12:22] <mangdood_> I just know that you don't need to include the syntax explicitly (as long as you're not using su or logged in with another user)
[12:23] <kylescottmcgill> i see
[12:23] <kylescottmcgill> Azmuth: whats in the Tar file?
[12:23] <Azmuth> its a tar file for java installtion
[12:24] <Azmuth> inside it there is a folder named "jre1.7.0_10"
[12:24] <kylescottmcgill> Azmuth: wouldnt you just sudo apt-get javasdk ? (or something) opposed to installing a tar ball
[12:24] <Azmuth> kylescottmcgill: now i have downloaded the tar
[12:24] <Azmuth> is there any way i can install from it ?
[12:25] <mangdood_> Azmuth: You probably don't want the tar unless you know what you're doing
[12:25] <mangdood_> Azmuth: It's less work to install it with apt-get and easier to maintain
[12:25] <kylescottmcgill> Azmuth: sudo apt-cache search jre
[12:25] <kylescottmcgill> pick one of those
[12:25] <Azmuth> ok
[12:25] <kylescottmcgill> then sudo apt-get install <the-one-you-need>
[12:26] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, At least I got further into the desktop, but now I got the message that it could not write to the file. I think I tried deleting it according to a "solution" I read before entering here... Except for the ownership, is there any difference in this file you think? Could I copy it from another user account to my folder and just change ownership?
[12:26] <kylescottmcgill> whats the file
[12:26] <kylescottmcgill> and maybe
[12:27] <kylescottmcgill> normally, if it cant find it, it will create it
[12:27] <blackline2> .ICEauthority
[12:27] <kylescottmcgill> if the file is there, you may need to change the permissions on the file
[12:27] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill,  it isnt
[12:27] <kylescottmcgill> -rw-------  1 kyle kyle  3418 Dec 31 15:25 .ICEauthority
[12:27] <kylescottmcgill> thats what mine looks like
[12:28] <blackline2> i had it before but tried erasing it in hope of it getting created again.
[12:28] <kylescottmcgill> *try* to touch .ICEauthority
[12:28] <kylescottmcgill> touch a command, it will create the file
[12:29] <kylescottmcgill> so
[12:29] <kylescottmcgill> touch .ICEauthority ; chmod 600 .ICEauthority
[12:31] <joey8> .
[12:32] <kylescottmcgill> blackline2: are you installing Gnome 3?
[12:34] <Azmuth> Installed jave from tar.gz,,,Thanks to http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-runtime-jre-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[12:34] <kylescottmcgill> Azmuth: awesome :)
[12:36] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, I use Unity (i suppose :/ )
[12:36] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, Now I see that .ICEauthority is owned by me.
[12:36] <kylescottmcgill> blackline2: ok when i googled it, alot of people where swapping Window or Desktop managers when the issue occured
[12:36] <kylescottmcgill> does it work?
[12:36] <kylescottmcgill> logging in i mean
[12:37] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, the message i get trying to log in is that it cannot update the file. the file has been recreated after i touched it, had to touch it as sudo to be able to touch it. then changed owner with chown
[12:37] <blackline2> So no, it doesnt work
[12:37] <Azmuth> kylescottmcgill: when i run gta sa under wine it don't start in full screen.Do you know how to fix it ?
[12:38] <kylescottmcgill> if you had to sudo to touch it, this means your /home/<user> folder is owned by root, and you should change that, as for Wine and Fullscreen, that will be unrelated i would imagine, and i wouldnt have a clue, #wine-hq might have a better idea sorry
[12:39] <Azmuth> ok nvm
[12:39] <Azmuth> thanks for support
[12:39] <Azmuth> you are very helpful
[12:40] <kylescottmcgill> Azmuth: sorry i thought you were the other guy... stupid weechat highlighting, as for your issue, the second part applies to you :)
[12:41] <blackline2> kylescottmcgill, that was my guess from the beginning. did "sudo chown -R marcus.marcus /home/marcus" now but still same issue.
[12:41] <blackline2> "Can't update ICE..."
[12:42] <kylescottmcgill> sudo chown -R marcus.marcus /home/marcus ; sudo chmod 755 /home/marcus ; should set up your home dir properly
[12:43] <kylescottmcgill> as for your ice issue, the above file permissions should fix it, if it doesnt the only thing that teh internet suggests is to reinstall gnome-session, but i think thats a little extreme
[12:44] <kylescottmcgill> BlackDex: what were you trying to do before this? can you paste that link again please?
[12:45] <kylescottmcgill> nevermind found it
[12:47] <kylescottmcgill> oh he left :(
[12:53] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, Now it works!
[12:53] <kylescottmcgill> blackline: congrats :)
[12:53] <blackline> Awesome. Thanks!
[12:54] <kylescottmcgill> brb need to see if my thing now works :) your welcome :)
[12:58] <Cong> Can I still read the notes I left in files from 10.04?
[13:01] <elky> Cong, depends what files. if you mean open office files, then yes.
[13:02] <Cong> File property notes
[13:03] <Cong> the notes left in the note tab in properties of files.
[13:09] <dan_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw
[13:10] <Cong> I can't watch the video. Can you write it down?
[13:11] <MonkeyDu1t> Cong  it's spam
[13:11] <DJones> dan_: This is Ubuntu support
[13:11] <dan_> :)
[13:13] <Cong> gvfs-info -a metadata::annotation <file> isn't showing anything
[13:15] <kylescottmcgill> blackline: so you managed to get it all sorted yeah?
[13:16] <Cong> that's the last time I save notes in files.
[13:17] <alazare619> looking for some help with fstab i have a odd issue basically i have a drive lets call it "Storage" I want it to be mounted to where any user (INCLUDING DAEMONS/SERVICES) can read write and execute any file on that drive regardless of who created the file ill paste my current fstab to pastebin
[13:17] <alazare619> http://pastebin.com/gDGhGuqD
[13:18] <alazare619> the one with the uuid is the drive mounted currently to /media/storage wich is where id like to be able to keep it if possible
[13:18] <Cong> I have a partition called Storage too!
[13:19] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, Yes everything works like a charm!
[13:20] <kylescottmcgill> nice
[13:20] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, If your up for it I would really appreciate if you could help me out to move my home directory to another storage (already mounted). It's pretty much the same as I did now but before I messed up and since I have a clean start now I would like to do it the right way :)
[13:21] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, For now my home directory is stored on the ssd that the system runs from. I would like it to be stored at /sdb1 which is mounted as /media/Storage
[13:21] <kylescottmcgill> blackline: is it external to your computer?
[13:22] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, it's internal
[13:22] <kylescottmcgill> ok
[13:22] <blackline> but i've intentionally mounted it under media just since i wanted it listed as a drive in nautilus
[13:22] <blackline> i would be ok with changing the mountpoint if /media/ isn't the proper way to go
[13:22] <kylescottmcgill> there is a couple of ways you could do this
[13:23] <blackline> having it in /media "feels" kind of external
[13:23] <blackline> Any ideas on that. Would it look more proper to mount it elsewhere before I go on moving stuff?
[13:23] <kylescottmcgill> 1) would be to setup a new user, then use the /media/x/x/homedir/ as the home dir, or 2) you could mv everything on to the hdd then modify your fstab records
[13:24] <kylescottmcgill> quick question, what format is your /media/ drive?
[13:24] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, as for now it's mounted in fstab, i've put it there
[13:24] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, it's ext4
[13:24] <kylescottmcgill> it would need to be ext4 for it work properly
[13:24] <kylescottmcgill> ok awesome, you shouldnt have any problems with Permissions etc then
[13:25] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, no. this should work. i just want it to be placed fany when it comes to mountpoint :)
[13:25] <kylescottmcgill> if you move everything on to the drive, then change you fstab to point /home to the new location you should be sweet
[13:25] <blackline> ...and of course working :)
[13:25] <blackline> sounds great.
[13:26] <kylescottmcgill> alazare619: whats the storage type? FAT32/EXT4/X
[13:26] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, so how do i perform the whole moving?
[13:27] <alazare619> ext4
[13:27] <alazare619> as you can see in the fstab currently
[13:27] <alazare619> its the line with the UUID refrence as its the only NON virtual partition
[13:28] <kylescottmcgill> blackline: you might want to logout, and change to another tab CTL + ALT + F1 and login as root
[13:28] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, and then?
[13:28] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, should i make a new user first to be able to enter in desktop if i get locked out? :)
[13:29] <kylescottmcgill> then cp -prvf /home/marcus /media/path/to/other/hdd/
[13:29] <kylescottmcgill> i would cp first, incase it dies part way through or something wierd
[13:29] <kylescottmcgill> thats why you would cp first
[13:30] <kylescottmcgill> then once we have change the fstab, you can always revert the fstab and go back to normal
[13:30] <LKiS> please anyone can tell me what alternative software for open yahoo messenger url like this -> ymsgr:sendIM?noobs
[13:30] <kylescottmcgill> after the /home has completed, i would advise to mv /home /home-old for a backup
[13:30] <alazare619> kyles basically what im going to do is have a bare drive, that no matter what file is created under wich user it will always be a 777 folder and a 666 file
[13:31] <alazare619> so that any user can read write any file
[13:31] <alazare619> under any folder
[13:32] <kylescottmcgill> alazare619: so you need fstab umask options
[13:32] <blackline> kylescottmcgill, i'll give this a try. see you in a while. *hopefully
[13:32] <alazare619> yea wich im not exactly familiar with
[13:33] <alazare619> well technically
[13:33] <alazare619> i just want it all 777
[13:33] <alazare619> jsut to make it easy
[13:34] <kylescottmcgill> alazare619: just finding a proper and quick way to do it, there is a couple
[13:35] <kylescottmcgill> fstab umask, or ACL
[13:35] <kylescottmcgill> you kinda want the same as a samba share, anyone can read/write/execute from it etc
[13:38] <kylescottmcgill> alazare619: im pretty sure you want umask=000 in your fstab
[13:39] <alazare619> UUID=426c4e71-524e-48a1-bffb-a323c1e845bb       /media/storage/ ext4  umask=000        1 2
[13:39] <alazare619> just like that?
[13:39] <Eagleman> I want my proxypass only at 1 of my FQDN's, now its on both of my FQDN's, Any idea what i did wrong?  http://pastebin.com/JMSvpcKT
[13:40] <KRomeleon> can anyone help with a question, who is in charge of the icons for the web apps?
[13:40] <KRomeleon> google plus updated their logo long ago and firefox still installs the old logo of an icobn
[13:40] <kylescottmcgill> alazare619: yup
[13:41] <KRomeleon> who is in charge of the icons? canonical?
[13:41] <alazare619> so just swap otu defaults to umask=000
[13:41] <kylescottmcgill> KRomeleon: depends on who maintains the package
[13:42] <kylescottmcgill> yeah i wouldnt advise doing this on, lets say your home directory, because applications use files in your home directory and 777 will sometimes through errors, but for other storage drives ya
[13:43] <bhavesh> Will Linux Mint be any different than my Ubuntu with Cinnamon installed excluding minor changes?
[13:43] <Eagleman> I want my proxypass only at 1 of my FQDN's, now its on both of my FQDN's, Any idea what i did wrong?  http://pastebin.com/JMSvpcKT
[13:43] <KRomeleon> bhavesh, yes
[13:43] <KRomeleon> lesser software center for one
[13:45] <kylescottmcgill> sorry Eagleman im not clued up on proxy's you might have to wait for someone else to answer your question
[13:46] <Eagleman> I think i figured it out
[13:46] <alazare619> guess i would actually want umask, dmask and fmask as 000
[13:46] <amiraj> have anyone used opencv from the ubuntu repos?
[13:47] <arabi> I need a little help on bash ....
[13:48] <arabi> I want to go to a directory which I get result of another command...
[13:48] <Eagleman> i didnt :(
[13:48] <arabi> for example I want to cd to which nodejs path
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> arabi  #bash
[13:49] <bhavesh> I'm installing tf2 from "steam for linux beta", its almost half done.. like 6GB. If I install Linux Mint 14 in place of Ubuntu 12.10, which folder should I backup?
[13:49] <arabi> MonkeyDust, OK
[13:50] <Eagleman> How can i bind <Location > ( apache ) to a specific FQDN instead to everything?
[13:51] <krz> whats with the countdown on the homepage?
[13:52] <DJones> krz: We don't yet, everybody has to wait until the countdown hits 0
[13:52] <cfhowlett> krz: rumor says ubuntu on Android / phone / tv?
[13:53] <jrib> Eagleman: try #httpd
[13:54] <krz> anyone know if its possible to replace the windows key on a laptop keyboard?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> krz: physically replace or re-assign?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:56] <krz> replace
[13:56] <krz> cfhowlett: ^^
[13:57] <cfhowlett> krz: sure.  pop it out, put a new key in ... of course, it's still coded to the original setting.  But you can edit that.
[13:57] <krz> right, but you know a site that sells replacement keys?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> krz: ask the OEM.
[13:58] <OerHeks> krz, with a laptop you need to replace the whole keyboard, unless you find a broken laptop where you can pull that key out
[13:59] <Ironsight> ebay to the rescue :/
[14:00] <OerHeks> a broken laptop is more valuable in parts than in 1 sale:-D
[14:00] <Ironsight> indeed
[14:00] <OerHeks> but this is offtopic, or join #hardware
[14:01] <Ironsight> Tried to boot windows 8 this morning... No luck
[14:02] <Ironsight> I'm probably not going to be able to get support for ubuntu-secure-remix
[14:03] <OerHeks> Ironsight, why? it is an official ubuntu project, isn't it ?
[14:03] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205323/nautilus-bookmarks-not-showing-in-places
[14:04] <tokam> I am having the same problem but the solution does not work for me
[14:04]  * rootpt @ Alice in chains - Would? live Unplugged
[14:04] <Ironsight> I don't know OerHeks I'm playing with the "Boot Repair" app right now to see if I can get it back in gear :/, I don't think it's some official remix, since I found it on sourceforge
[14:05] <DJones> OerHeks: Its listed as not being officially supported by canonical according to help.ubuntu
[14:05] <OerHeks> no https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuSecureRemix >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-secure-remix
[14:06] <OerHeks> oh, community driven project, as i understand ?
[14:06] <OerHeks> like the ppc version ?
[14:07] <Ironsight> yeah, it's a community project
[14:10] <gr8> so close to what? what happens in 27 hours?! http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:12] <Ironsight> gr8 I am guessing from the phrase "you can almost *touch* it" perhaps a rollout of a new ubuntu tablet
[14:13] <J_Cray> That's a good guess.
[14:13] <Ironsight> There has been talk of such
[14:14] <Ironsight> that's why they have been working so hard on arm support I believe
[14:14] <OerHeks> Mark Shuttlewoth already wrote on his blog something is different with 13.04 ..
[14:14] <alienaut> hello
[14:15] <Ironsight> !hello|allenaut
[14:15] <Ironsight> oops
[14:16] <BluesKaj> something is different with 13.04,..How OerHeks ?
[14:16] <alienaut> i want to set  startup an application
[14:17] <alienaut> where can i find binary files of my applications
[14:20] <Name141> is there a way to run the equivalent of 'ipconfig /release' and 'ipconfig /renew' in linux?
[14:20] <JPMH> alienaut: where did you compile them to?  generally whereis file will yell you where it will execute from though
[14:20] <Emanon> alienaut: /bin  maybe?
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> alienaut  try /usr/bin/ and /usr/sbin/
[14:21] <Emanon> Sorry, that's what I mean.
[14:22] <OerHeks> alienaut, good explanation where and howto find it > http://askubuntu.com/questions/60826/where-is-the-default-folder-for-apps
[14:22] <Emanon> I guess /bin is for base system binaries huh? /usr is for userland apps.
[14:22] <JPMH> whereis will tell you where it comes from when you launch iyt at the shell
[14:22] <OerHeks> or find or locate
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Name141, it's better if you explain what you're trying to do.
[14:23] <JPMH> Emanon: no - reaaly depends where it originated - thats why we have /bin /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin etc
[14:23] <Emanon> Really? I thought it had to do with what they related to.
[14:24] <JPMH> Emanon: should be but it seems that is more an element of which of the unix paths it originated with
[14:24] <Emanon> Like /bin would be the base bins without which the system would not operate whereas /usr/bin was userland apps I didn't even think of /usr/local/bin
[14:25] <JPMH> Emanon: I agree it would be nice  = then you would even be able to forecast where they were
[14:25] <Emanon> I'm a little distracted trying to get backtrack running on my phone too.
[14:26] <Emanon> It's no excuse though ;-)
[14:26] <JPMH> and what even makes it worse is that there are some commands that are USUALLY bins that are simulated by some of the shells and not others
[14:26] <Emanon> Sounds like kind of a cluster----.
[14:28] <JPMH> I agree Emanon  but once something was released on one of the Unixes (back when they were dominant) it went into which one was there and then when it migrated it stayed there,  at least this is as I understand it
[14:28] <Emanon> I'd like to see a FOSS based system replace android.
[14:28] <Emanon> Like something arch based with enlightenment maybe.
[14:28] <JPMH> It is sort of like the letter C in English (wait there is no c in English), it is pronounced s or k depending whether the word originated in Latin or Greek
[14:29] <JPMH> what is FOSS?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> JPMH  free and open source software
[14:30] <JPMH> MonkeyDust: ty
[14:30] <JPMH> Isn't Adnroid free and open?
[14:31] <J_Cray> Speaking of FOSS, what would be the difference with FLOSS? More of an emphasis on free as in beer?
[14:31] <Emanon> Yes and no, just like desktop distros it's complicated.
[14:32] <JPMH> As I understood it Adndroid is governed by the GPL - is it not?
[14:32] <nums> hi
[14:32] <iceroot> #gnu and #android
[14:32] <Emanon> I am not opposed to having proprietary software (at least in principle) I just don't like how some of the base system is not as accessible (or so I've heard).
[14:34] <Emanon> I'd like to see it with a decent package manager and repos instead of the Play store.
[14:35] <Emanon> 'Cause I don't like how you're stuck with the half assed mobile versions of what should be simple software.
[14:35] <Emanon> Pidgin runs on ARM why isn't there Pidgin out for android?
[14:36] <iceroot> Emanon: #android
[14:36] <iceroot> Emanon: its offtopic here
[14:36] <ThinkT510> Emanon: why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[14:36] <Emanon> Android is on topic. Ubuntu for android devices is coming out and I'd like to see it as a replacement instead of running in parallell.
[14:36] <iceroot> Emanon: its offtopic here
[14:37] <ThinkT510> Emanon: no, this is a ubuntu support channel
[14:37] <franco69> ciao
[14:37] <stef1a> hi; i'm using Ubuntu 12.10, and my sound doesn't work. please help.
[14:37] <franco69> !lista
[14:37] <ThinkT510> stef1a: what does alsamixer show?
[14:38] <stef1a> ThinkT510: the only suspicious channels at 00 are S/PDIF (D)... how do I turn them up?
[14:38] <franco69> ciao
[14:38] <ThinkT510> stef1a: any say MM?
[14:38] <franco69> !lista
[14:39] <Lawliet9> Hello stefla in the Terminal write lspci
[14:39] <stef1a> ThinkT510: Line, Beep, Rear Mic, Front Mic
[14:39] <stef1a> others say 00, though the bars are up and filled
[14:39] <ThinkT510> stef1a: MM = that channel is muted
[14:40] <stef1a> The S/PDIF (D) ones show up in my Sound Settings, though, so I would like to get them up...
[14:40] <stef1a> ok, how can I unmute?
[14:40] <ThinkT510> stef1a: select the channel and press m
[14:41] <stef1a> ThinkT510: ok, but now there's still no sound...
[14:42] <ThinkT510> stef1a: then it wasn't because something was muted
[14:42] <ThinkT510> !sound | stef1a
[14:43] <stef1a> S / PDIF (D) are both unmuted, but they have no bars
[14:44] <blackline> Just until today I had my disk crypted which is not the case anymore. I still get the "Enter passphrase" at every boot. How do I disable that feature?
[14:44] <darklord> opencv
[14:44] <blackline> for me it's enough to enter password at login
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> i have some purple boot screens instead of loading into login screen, after few reboots it fixes..what could cause this?
[14:45] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | lotuspsychje
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:any logs i can check to see whats happening to splash screen
[14:48] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: no idea, as long as it gets to the login screen i couldn't care if the splash loads or not for me
[14:49] <stef1a> how do i find the name of my sound driver?
[14:49] <andycolla> salve
[14:49] <andycolla> !list
[14:50] <ThinkT510> stef1a: depends on your hardware i think
[14:51] <ramtina> hi, i wanna install fedora on my ubuntu partition,i do it but there is an error on formating my root partition any one can help me?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> stef1a: lspci will show you some of your hardware, sudo lshw will give you a better more detailed view
[14:52] <blackline> I'll rephrase my question. How do I boot without having to enter passphrase  now when my disk is no longer decrypted?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> ramtina: you'd need to get help from fedora
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> ramtina  delete the partition, thrn install fedora, but better ask in #fedora
[14:53] <ramtina> ThinkT510:thanks but there isn't anyone in there :D
[14:53] <ThinkT510> ramtina: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[14:53] <ramtina> MonkeyDust: i know but i cant delete it :|
[14:53] <ramtina> ThinkT510: thanks sorry about that
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> ramtina  use gparted on the ubuntu cd or usb
[14:54] <stef1a> i tried everything in the sound troubleshooting guide, but my sound still doesn't work
[14:54] <ramtina> MonkeyDust: ok i gonna test, thank you
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> ramtina  or ask advice in #fedora
[14:58] <graingert> sorry about the nickspam
[14:59] <StanDarsh> Does anyone know what the countdown is about on the ubuntu homepage?
[15:00] <JPMH> StanDarsh: do you mean when it is checking the file system
[15:00] <ThinkT510> JPMH: he is talking about the ubuntu website
[15:01] <krz> whats the preferred irc client?
[15:01] <JPMH> ThinkT510: Ty - Never go there
[15:01] <ThinkT510> krz: only you can answer that
[15:01] <JPMH> I mean I never go there - it bothers me
[15:02] <stef1a> my sound doesn't work in ubuntu 12.10 and i've tried using the ubuntu troubleshooting guide
[15:02] <StanDarsh> It's weird.
[15:02] <StanDarsh> It's a 27 hour countdown
[15:02] <JPMH> StanDarsh: That is till Shuttleworth reveals all
[15:02] <JPMH> I hear that it is going to be the commitment to ARM seriously
[15:02] <StanDarsh> ..he's.. he's gonna expose himself?
[15:03] <JPMH> LOL - ty
[15:03] <StanDarsh> That would mean Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi. Which would be excellent.
[15:03] <krz> ThinkT510: what you using?
[15:03] <ydnar> http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/1/3824006/ubuntu-touch-os-teaser-announcement
[15:03] <ydnar> touch os
[15:03] <ThinkT510> krz: xchat presently, if i'm on cli then weechat
[15:05] <krz> chat doesn't seem like its been updated since 2010
[15:05] <StanDarsh> Touch OS on Reddit: http://i.imgur.com/c43ks.jpg
[15:05] <JPMH> StanDarsh: I run a number of PIs - I would not suggest that Ubuntu is a good distro for them
[15:05] <StanDarsh> Too hungry?
[15:06] <JPMH> yes - and the whole nature of what you do with them makes the eye-candy a pain - plus remember you are running from an SD card so small disk footprint is good too
[15:06] <JPMH> I love the PI for what I use them for - which is public access computers in coffee shops
[15:07] <StanDarsh> That's a good application.
[15:07] <JPMH> I did use Ubuntu in the past - when I ran on real machines - actually Xubuntu
[15:07] <StanDarsh> I've been flirting with getting one but not sure what I'd do with it.
[15:07] <StanDarsh> I don't have any programming experience.
[15:07] <ThinkT510> krz: if its in the repo then its supported
[15:08] <JPMH> StanDarsh: as you say - great - because it is instantly re-loadable - and so cheap that if something happens who cares - I use washable keyboards - they cost more than the PIs
[15:08] <mirak> hi
[15:09] <mirak> does anyone knows if google music serve the music you uploaded or just match the music to their own titles ?
[15:11] <Ironsight> Windows 8 won't boot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2100299 full info posted there :/
[15:11] <MonkWitDaFunk> wouldnt ARM processors be best obtained through recycling?
[15:12] <JPMH> StanDarsh: then the PI is for you - one of thje distros is designed for learning and the nice thinbg is - mess up - and so what - re-load
[15:13] <ewook> MonkWitDaFunk: that's an odd question. Recycling what?
[15:14] <MonkWitDaFunk> all the old iphones and androids should have ubuntu for arm on them
[15:14] <ewook> MonkWitDaFunk: Building bootloaders for all old and odd ARM implementations would prove quite painfull..
[15:16] <Ironsight> is it possible that ubuntu wiped out my windows 8 efi files?
[15:17] <JPMH> Ironsight: it is possible but unlikely unless you did something to cause it - it can mount and see the file system etc - and for that matter it could even fdormat the partition
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Ironsight,  did you run sudo -update grub after installing ubuntu , or sudo os-prober first the update grub
[15:18] <Ironsight> BluesKaj, I used boot repair, which used os-prober and such
[15:19] <Ironsight> before I used boot-repair from my ubuntu-secure-remix, the system wouldn't even boot grub
[15:19] <Ironsight> now it will boot into ubuntu, but not windows 8
[15:20] <Ironsight> my full boot info is in a pastebin now, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1485382/
[15:22] <codeMonkey> Hey all, I'm trying to create a for loop in a bash script that invoked a gnome-terminal to open a second script.  the problem here is I need to pass the variable from the for loop counter to the new terminal for the second script.  Ideas?
[15:22] <yfi> codeMonkey: export an environment variable
[15:23] <ThinkT510> codeMonkey: also more help in #bash
[15:25] <Ironsight> codeMonkey, I used to do similar in python... like subprocess.call(["xterm", "-e", "whatever command I want to run"]) using xterm, which basically did a xterm -e foo
[15:26] <Ironsight> but yeah, #bash guys will steer you in the right direction
[15:27] <varun> hi
[15:27] <Ironsight> heya varun
[15:27] <varun> can you guys help me on mailman
[15:27] <Ironsight> don't ask to ask, :)
[15:27] <varun> hi Ironsight
[15:27] <Ironsight> just shoot it out there and if anyone knows, we will help :D
[15:28] <codeMonkey> thanks :)  I think the exporting environemtn var was is, I must of done it wrong when i tried it b4 :P
[15:28] <codeMonkey> lol thanks
[15:33] <fabookchat> Do you know of any facebook app to chat on IRC with other facebook users that aren't on your friends list? It would be great such an app with a lot of great popular #rooms
[15:36] <jrib> fabookchat: http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoFacebook
[15:38] <fabookchat> jrib: thx, but that is not a facebook app
[15:38] <jrib> fabookchat: oh, I misunderstood your question.
[15:39] <jrib> fabookchat: it's not really an ubuntu question :)
[15:40] <fabookchat> ok
[15:42]  * rootpt @ Alice In Chains - Nutshell - Unplugged.mp3
[15:43] <DJones> rootpt: Please turn that script off
[15:43] <rootpt> sorry.
[15:44] <kslater> anyone have a ballpark number for how much disk free I'll need to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04.1 LTS?
[15:45] <rick2> hey guys ... does the youtube webapp work for you ?  it stopped working for me ...
[15:45] <kslater> looks like I can get to about 2G free if I move a few things off to an external disk for a while. I'm wondering what sort of a can of whoop-ass I'm about to unleash on myself. :-(
[15:45] <ThinkT510> kslater: probably much easier to fresh install
[15:46] <BluesKaj> rick2, after an update/upgrade ?
[15:46] <repozitor> how can i connect to desktop computer using SSH?
[15:46] <kslater> Using gparted I could probably find another 10G if I had to..
[15:47] <DJones> !ssh | repozitor
[15:47] <ThinkT510> !ssh | repozitor
[15:47] <techouse> can anyone explain to me how to connect either Evolution or Thunderbird to Microsoft Exchange 2003 (OWA)
[15:47] <techouse> i've been trying for 2hrs :P
[15:47] <techouse> no way....
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> repozitor  basically ssh remote_user@remote_IP
[15:47] <srhb> I've set vm_dirty_writeback to 60000 to limit writes to disk to once every 10 minutes (if memory permits and if I understand the options correctly). Now, how do I monitor writes? vmstat seems to take an average, I'd like a total counter to check I think.
[15:47] <repozitor> MonkeyDust, but my problem is destination computer don't have remote IP
[15:48] <repozitor> he connected to network using my ISP
[15:49] <repozitor> i want to run some command on destination computer, but i don't know what i should to do exactly
[15:50] <repozitor> ThinkT510, do you understand my problem?
[15:50] <srhb> repozitor: The destination computer is on your local net?
[15:50] <repozitor> no
[15:50] <srhb> repozitor: Well, you need the remote IP.
[15:50] <repozitor> i know if it exist on my local network, then i can use SSH
[15:51] <repozitor> i should get remote IP from ISP?
[15:51] <srhb> repozitor: Easier to get it from the person with the destination computer
[15:51] <repozitor> destination computer is for me
[15:51] <Night-hacks> i get  ssh permission denied please try again. while trying to ssh to my server, and it was ok yesterday !!
[15:52] <repozitor> and i know that IP
[15:52] <srhb> repozitor: Then I don't understand your problem. ssh user@destination_ip
[15:52] <repozitor> my destination computer connected using ADSL2+
[15:52] <Night-hacks> any idea ?
[15:53] <repozitor> for example my ip is 2.177.168.155
[15:53] <repozitor> but you can't connect using SSH to me
[15:53] <repozitor> do you got it?
[15:53] <srhb> repozitor: Does port 22 get forwarded to your computer?
[15:54] <repozitor> i don't know what is this
[15:54] <repozitor> what is this?
[15:54] <srhb> repozitor: The port that the SSH server responds on. Your router should forward requests to that port to your computer with the SSH server.
[15:54] <repozitor> and my desktop destination computer ip is :5.199.140.67
[15:55] <repozitor> both my LP and my desktop computer connected to net, using ADSL2+ from ISP
[15:55] <rick2> BluesKaj, I probably did upgrades meanwhile, sure ... but now, youtube videos no longer show up in the volume indicator ... does it work for you?
[15:56] <repozitor> and my ip shared between 8 another user, this is not dedicated
[15:56] <srhb> repozitor: The information you need is how to forward port 22 to your local ssh server.
[15:56] <kqr> i have encountered a strange problem with my ubuntu. after I rebooted last, all xft fonts have gone huge. what previously looked like 12 pt now looks like 18 pt. this applies both to my terminal, my status bar and my web browser. it does not happen with my email client or music player. does anyone have any idea what could have happened?
[15:56] <srhb> repozitor: That depends on your router/the equipment you got from your ISP.
[15:57] <repozitor> srhb, is there exist any external server for this goal?
[15:57] <repozitor> for example how teamviewer works fine?
[15:57] <srhb> repozitor: Team viewer uses a middle man, afaik.
[15:57] <repozitor> team viewer don't need to have any special device
[15:57] <srhb> repozitor: But yes, you can set up reverse tunnels on an external server if you have access to one.
[15:57] <repozitor> yes, i mean is there exist any MITM to establish this connection?
[15:58] <srhb> repozitor: Sure, any VPN service could do.
[15:58] <repozitor> VPN on desktop computer?
[15:58] <repozitor> VPN service*
[15:58] <srhb> repozitor: Any Linux computer that you can reach on port 22 and have access to would do fine
[15:59] <repozitor> for VPN we need to have domain, yes?
[15:59] <srhb> repozitor: Nope. As I said, any port 22 reachable address will suffice.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> rick2, so you have video , but no audio on youtube ?
[16:00] <repozitor> hhhmm, i can't understand your mean
[16:00] <repozitor> can you help me to do your suggest?
[16:00] <repozitor> or get me usefull link
[16:00] <srhb> repozitor: I think your questions are not really very Ubuntu-related and much more about basic networkiing. Perhaps you could search for basic information on accessing port 22 remotely on Google. :) I'm sure there are dedicated channels to help if you get stuck
[16:01] <rick2> BluesKaj, I am talking about the youtube webapp ! i no longer shows the media controls in the volume indicator when I'm watching a video
[16:01] <mohawk> hello, I am currently running ubuntu 12.04'. it has been having trouble connecting to the internet. my house network is a wpa 2 network. when I try to connect it just repeatedly asks for my Passcode, but when I join an unlocked network it shows up as I have internet, but then when I try to open a webpage or something it says I am not connected
[16:01] <KM0201> what is ubuntu's homepage referring to?
[16:02] <rick2> BluesKaj, webapp is the new feature introduced in 12.10 where websites can integrate in unity ... Both the youtube and the facebook are not fully working for me
[16:03] <repozitor> srhb, tnx for helping
[16:03] <repozitor> my last request is can you tell me what i search on google?
[16:03] <rick2> BluesKaj, maybe those sites changed API, and no update was released for the webapps ... I imagine, but dunno
[16:03] <repozitor> i don't have any start point
[16:03] <mohawk> so basically I can connect, but not to sp
[16:03] <mohawk> so
[16:04] <mohawk> locked network
[16:04] <cfhowlett> KM0201: countdown? unknown.  rumor says ubuntu on android/tv/phone
[16:04] <BluesKaj> rick2, try reinstalling flash , but it could be your browser too , not sure
[16:04] <srhb> repozitor: Try "forward ports from router"
[16:04] <srhb> repozitor: Then combine with ssh server afterwards
[16:04] <KM0201> cfhowlett: i kinda thought phone.. but wasn't 100% sure.. i thought maybe this was a known project, but just doing some googling, looks like nobody knows, just speculation
[16:04] <rick2> BluesKaj, dude, dude! I am talking about ubuntu-webapp integration, not flash !!
[16:05] <cfhowlett> KM0201: yep
[16:05] <rick2> flash works fine. just not the unity integration
[16:05] <pip__> Hi, what is the Ubuntu website counting down to at the moment?
[16:05] <mohawk>  I had ubuntu 12.10 before and it gave me the same probLen, so it cannot be my computer
[16:05] <rick2> BluesKaj, the facebook webapp from ubuntu 12.10 is was broken, since the new facebook messaging system
[16:05] <rick2> s/was/also
[16:06] <mohawk>  sorry for my bad spelling but I am on a Kindle fire keyboard
[16:06] <BluesKaj> rick2, ok , sorry , i don't use unity :P
[16:06] <BS-Harou> hello, is there any way to disable the Ubuntu 12.04 unity dash fade-in animation on opening?
[16:07] <mohawk>  so, does ubuntu have issues connecting to locked networks or something Kline? it worked yesterday, then it just never connected again
[16:08] <srhb> I too am curious about that countdown. No imminent releases are planned, are they?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> srhb: none
[16:08] <srhb> Weird.
[16:08] <ThinkT510> srhb: next scheduled release is 13.04 in april
[16:08] <srhb> Yeah. Maybe the countdown is a new years bug :P
[16:08] <mohawk>  I too am curious about how to fix my computer. :)
[16:09] <ThinkT510> mohawk: sounds like an access point issue
[16:09] <mohawk> what do you mean?
[16:10] <ThinkT510> mohawk: tried restarting the router you're trying to connect to?
[16:10] <mohawk>  everyone else on my network can connect but my ubuntu
[16:10] <k1l> mohawk: is the pw corect? does it contain special characters? which wifi card do you use?
[16:10] <stef1a> my sound doesn't work in ubuntu 12.10 and i've tried using the ubuntu troubleshooting guide
[16:11] <mohawk> I have tried restarting the router, it worked just yesterday and then it stopped
[16:11] <krywk> I need help with QJackCTL
[16:11] <krywk> Well, more like help, I need tips for Jack.
[16:11] <SpiceMan> (ubuntu 11.10) the mysql upgrade bug bit me before I googled it and I broke it further :p. dpkg wants to configure mysql-server-5.1 and I don't care. how can I make it get rid of everything mysql- so I can just apt-get afresh?
[16:12] <krywk> How can I reduce latency without loosing audio quality?
[16:12] <krywk> losing*
[16:12] <SpiceMan> (wants me and fails at it)
[16:12] <mohawk>  I do not use any special Wi-Fi cardso whatever was in my pc in the beginning....
[16:12] <cfhowlett> krywk: are you using the low latency kernel
[16:13] <krywk> When I installed JACK, it asked to use realtime kernel. If by low latency kernel you mean that, then yes.
[16:13] <mohawk> just a normal card that worked yesterday, just a normal network and pc that worked yesterday...
[16:13] <cfhowlett> krywk: right.
[16:14] <krywk> Right now I'm getting...
[16:14] <krywk> 46.4 msec
[16:14] <krywk> which is annoying at some point :/
[16:15] <pip__> maybe it's a point release for 12.04?
[16:15] <srhb> Despite having set vm writeback timeout to 10 minutes, I keep seeing kB written in iostat every few seconds. What's going on?
[16:17] <ThinkT510> pip__: no, the point releases are every 6 months
[16:17] <krywk> So uh, what can I do to reduce latency? :/
[16:18] <k1l> mohawk: im not aware of any general changes on ubuntu that should have made your wiki not work today.
[16:18] <kslater> Ok, so I need to move off of 10.10 to something else. The question is what? I'd like to move to 12.04.1 LTS 64 bit, but I'm not sure I can get there without a clean install. I don't care about the time required so much, although it's a factor (I'll just have to use a different machine to do development work for a while).
[16:18] <noob6534> hey
[16:18] <noob6534> anybody
[16:19] <jrib> !upgrade | kslater
[16:19] <ThinkT510> kslater: whats stopping  you from clean installing 12.04
[16:19] <mohawk> I cannot wait until the ubuntu 13,04 comes out. I wonder if there will be a new ui or something
[16:19] <k1l> kslater: 10.10 is EOL some time
[16:19] <cfhowlett> kslater: clean install is recommended.  and you can't upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04
[16:19] <kslater> Too much stuff installed for a clean install
[16:19] <cfhowlett> noob6534: yes we see you
[16:20] <mohawk>  I know people that still use ubuntu 9,04
[16:20] <kslater> how about a stepped process? say to 11.04 LTS and then up to 12.04 LTS?
[16:20] <jrib> kslater: yes, see ubottu.
[16:20] <ThinkT510> kslater: 11.04 was not lts
[16:20] <kslater> oh, there isn't a 11.04 LTS
[16:20] <kslater> right
[16:20] <cfhowlett> mohawk: I know people that still use XP.  Doesn't make it a smart thing to do.
[16:20] <noob6534> can anybody recommec some online game on ubuntu?
[16:20] <noob6534> recommend*
[16:20] <ThinkT510> kslater: 11.04 is also no longer supported
[16:20] <kslater> so how about to 11.10 and then up to 12.04?
[16:21] <jrib> kslater: this is all detailed in the link ubottu gave you
[16:21] <mohawk> 75% of Windows users use xp almost
[16:21] <cfhowlett> kslater: from 10.04 you can upgrade directly to 12.04.  otherwise, 10.10 to 11.04, 11.10, 12.04
[16:21] <kslater> yeah, reading now. Let me see what I can do.
[16:21] <k1l> kslater: if you want upgrade you need every step untill 12.04, which is upgrade to 11.04, 11.10 and then 12.04
[16:21] <kslater> cfhowlett: thanks.
[16:21] <jrib> !eol | k1l
[16:21] <jrib> erm
[16:21] <jrib> kslater: that too ^
[16:21] <noob6534> leave
[16:21] <ThinkT510> kslater: you'd need to go 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 (and considering 11.04 is end of life that makes it difficult)
[16:22] <cfhowlett> kslater: good luck.
[16:22]  * kslater figures to be reading a lot on New Years day
[16:22] <topper4125> you can upgrade from what ever version you have now, to the LTS that came out after that... then upgrade from LTS to LTS all the way to current
[16:22] <kslater> cfhowlett: thanks
[16:23] <kslater> I have one more backup to run before I get started, so I'd better get cracking
[16:24] <topper4125> kslater, is your home directory on a seperate partition?
[16:24] <krywk> cfhowlett, any tips on how to reduce latency? ;/
[16:24] <cfhowlett> topper4125: check your sources.  Unless I'm mistaken, you can not upgrade from in interim to an LTS release unless the LTS is the next release in sequence, e.g. 11.10 to 12.04.
[16:24] <kslater> topper4125: no, it's on the same partition as /
[16:24] <kslater> unfortunately.
[16:25] <kslater> will the upgrade process look at free disk space to make sure it has enough before proceeding?
[16:25] <cfhowlett> krywk: sorry, I don't use jack and never learned how.  FWIW I'm on Ubuntustudio.  I bet the #ubuntustudio channel would have some ideas for your, though.
[16:25] <cfhowlett> kslater: yes.
[16:25] <kslater> cool
[16:26] <ThinkT510> kslater: seriously, you are better off fresh installing
[16:26] <krywk> I always wondered what 'FWIW' meant
[16:26] <krywk> :|
[16:26] <kslater> ThinkT510: if only
[16:26] <ThinkT510> krywk: for what its worth
[16:26] <cfhowlett> For what it's worth
[16:26] <krywk> Oh, ok, thanks c:
[16:26] <krywk> Thanks for the help anyways :D
[16:26] <k1l> kslater: i would recommend a fresh install if possible.
[16:27] <ThinkT510> kslater: especially so if you've installed ppas
[16:27] <cfhowlett> kslater: gotta agree with k1l.  clean install avoids a whole lot of headaches.
[16:27] <usr13> !lts | kslater
[16:27] <pip__> uh, that's going to annoy me until I find out what it is
[16:27] <kslater> the problem is that this machine is my day-to-day laptop. And the software that's installed on it was built up over time. My fear is that I'll get to an upgraded OS without some required package and won't be able to get a suitable replacement
[16:27] <pip__> I can wait a day I guess :)
[16:28] <kslater> I'll be on an LTS release if possible
[16:28] <topper4125> kslater, you're running 10.10 right?
[16:28] <kslater> right
[16:28] <kslater> 10.10 64 bit
[16:28] <usr13> kslater: YOu should have thought of that before you let ELO come-and-go.
[16:28] <usr13> *EOL
[16:28] <kslater> indeed
[16:28] <topper4125> you can upgrade to 11.04, LTS... then go from there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[16:28] <ThinkT510> usr13 +1
[16:29] <kslater> ELO, I'm going to put them on Spotify now
[16:29] <ThinkT510> topper4125: 11.04 is not lts, its eol
[16:29] <cfhowlett> kslater: it's not like 10.10 is going to suddenly stop working.  Prepare for your upgrade, back up what you need to back up, maybe beg/borrow/steal a secondary computer so you can continue working and bite the upgrade bullet.
[16:29] <lakshya> sir please  talk to you i am clean /boot & /tmp files
[16:30] <kslater> cfhowlett: agreed on the stopping working, it's just getting annoying working around the update notifications. And I'm going to need to move to 12.04.1 soon enough anyway for other (development platform) reasons.
[16:31] <cfhowlett> kslater: which is exactly why I decided to only install and maintain LTS releases.
[16:31] <malefiku> Hello
[16:31] <cfhowlett> malefiku: greetings
[16:31] <topper4125> You can then upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades#Upgrade_from_11.04_to_11.10 and 11.10 is *NOT* Eol... then up to 12.04 LTS
[16:31] <kslater> yeah, it makes good sense
[16:31] <malefiku> Happy New Year to all of you
[16:32] <hexbyte> Happy New Year...
[16:32] <usr13> kslater: If you were on 10.04 right now, it would be an easy task, and you would have several months before you have to actually do it.
[16:32] <topper4125> OH OH OH Now I see where I'm reading that wrong... drrr
[16:32] <malefiku> Who is a master in domains and DNS settings
[16:32] <malefiku> ????
[16:32] <demensdeum> hello
[16:32] <kslater> thanks for the help everyone.
[16:33] <malefiku> Who is master in DNS, please contact me in private
[16:33] <cfhowlett> kslater: take your time.  It'll all work out.  And I suspect you will really appreciate 12.04
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !pm | malefiku
[16:34] <kslater> I have 12.04.1 on a build machine in the basement. I'm not sure about Unity though. I think I laid down gnome on that box to stay comfortable.
[16:34] <IdleOne> malefiku: Just ask your actual question and if someone can help they will.
[16:34] <kslater> (I haven't used it much yet)
[16:36] <demensdeum> Hey ppl, why noveau and nvidia driver freeze my notebook? geforce 8400g
[16:37] <demensdeum> also artefacts
[16:38] <Hans-Martin> most likely nobody knows...
[16:38] <demensdeum> too bad
[16:38] <malefiku> Here is the thing... I had an old blog hosted on Blogger blogspot Google free subdomain... The old address is http://marian32-blog.blogspot.com... Recently, I bought a paid domain called www.marian32.com... But when I access it, points me to..Google !!!!
[16:38] <Hans-Martin> does it completely freeze, or just the graphics?
[16:38] <demensdeum> completely freeze
[16:39] <demensdeum> artifacts on gdm login
[16:39] <XXCoreIII> I ran an update on the system and now flash won't work.
[16:39] <demensdeum> Same on debian.
[16:39] <IdleOne> malefiku: ##networking might be more useful in this case.
[16:39] <demensdeum> As i recall on 8.04 everything was ok
[16:40] <Hans-Martin> demensdeum: maybe the driver gets wrong memory info and either overwrites other data structures or something overwrites its structures?
[16:40] <demensdeum> I don't know how to check
[16:40] <ania_> XXCoreIII, hi are u there?
[16:41] <XXCoreIII> Yes, but I just fixed it.
[16:41] <ania_> XXCoreIII,  flash where ?
[16:41] <Hans-Martin> demensdeum: is it possible to run 8.04 without too much effort to compare kernel output for example?
[16:41] <JPMH> malefiku: I went to your domain - worked fine for me
[16:41] <XXCoreIII> it downloaded flashplugin-installer but didn't run it
 good idea. But I don't remember what version of nvidia driver was.
[16:42] <ania_> ok just to let you know easiest way to install and manage flash in firefox is to install firefox add on called FLASH-AID .....and jusgt follow instruction
[16:42] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: have you tried flushing all browser caches?
[16:42] <JPMH> malefiku: in fact I get a status 302 - permanently moved and the re-direct to the blocgsopt.com
[16:42] <jp_hranice> Hallo, I have some problems with fullscreen in games like glebulation 2, warzone2100, on NVIDIA GeForce 6600. Any idea ?
[16:43] <krywk> I got it working with no latenc
[16:43] <JC_SoCal> if i use the mini.iso and want to get to the full ubuntu-server iso version, is there a way like apt-get install ubuntu-desktop install the full ubuntu-desktop iso version
[16:43] <krywk> latency
[16:43] <krywk> :D
[16:43] <JPMH> malefiku: how long is it since you changed the DNS pointers - I wonder if you have a DNS cache issue rather than a browser one - although Hans-Martin  is right too
[16:44] <demensdeum> and its ok on vista, so i think problem in driver somewhere.
[16:44] <malefiku> Yes
[16:44] <blackline> How can I disable the passphrase at boot? I'm running Ubuntu 12.10.
[16:44] <malefiku> Guys, listen up
[16:44] <nimo> i cant bluetooth to my ubuntu machine.. refused.... any suggestions?
[16:44] <rdw200169> JC_SoCal: just use tasksel
[16:44] <malefiku> The website was accessible
[16:45] <beboj> JC_SoCal: just use terminal to install everything
[16:45] <Hans-Martin> demensdeum: it's probably a problem between driver and bios - maybe the bios misreports something about the card, but the windows driver does the right thing anyway, and the linux driver believes what the bios says
[16:45] <malefiku> But the workers from the registrar changed my DNS so many times, that they fucked my domain
[16:45] <JC_SoCal> beboj: Yeah, i just don't know what 'everything' is
[16:46] <JC_SoCal> rdw200169: i'll give tasksel a try thx
[16:46] <rdw200169> JC_SoCal: if you run tasksel in the terminal, there is a 'Ubuntu Desktop' Task, that task should take care of installing everything you need
[16:46] <topper4125> JC_SoCal http://askubuntu.com/questions/150338/ubuntu-server-from-ubuntu-minimal
[16:46] <demensdeum> how to check what drivers get from bios?
[16:46] <beboj> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/index.html
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> any way to cut back on the unity visual effects for VM deployment?
[16:47] <JC_SoCal> topper4125: i saw this -- but ubuntu-server wasn't found
[16:47] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: looks like marian32-blog.blogspot.de redirects to marian32.com again
[16:47] <ThinkT510> TheLordOfTime: better off with lubuntu in a vm
[16:47] <malefiku> Yes
[16:47] <Hans-Martin> that's not DNS, just HTTP redirection
[16:47] <JC_SoCal> rdw200169: i'm not looking for ubuntu-desktop, sorry, i need ubuntu-server
[16:47] <malefiku> This is normal
[16:47] <topper4125> JC_SoCal read answer 1... that's the way to get 'er done (Tasksel)
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> ThinkT510,  no choice, have to test a Unity feature for bugfixing.  so my original question stands.
[16:48] <JC_SoCal> topper4125: thx -- i'm installing it now
[16:48] <jp_hranice> Hallo, I have some problems with fullscreen in games like glebulation 2, warzone2100, on NVIDIA GeForce 6600. Any idea ?
[16:48] <beboj> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[16:48] <malefiku> I put a 301 redirect from my domain to blogspot domain
[16:48] <malefiku> At Setup Web Redirection in Registrar settings
[16:48] <beboj> install this and after that webmin or something easy to manage
[16:48] <Hans-Martin> and www.marian32.com (173.194.69.132) redirects to www.google.com
[16:48] <ThinkT510> TheLordOfTime: unity wasn't really designed for it
[16:49] <TheLordOfTime> ThinkT510, yeah i know, i had to bugtest a unity thing :P
[16:49] <TheLordOfTime> ThinkT510, it runs fine in a VM if I give it > 1.5GB of RAM
[16:49] <TheLordOfTime> but... :P
[16:49] <rdw200169> JC_SoCal: then pick the server from the list in tasksel...
[16:49] <ThinkT510> TheLordOfTime: you could try disabling some stuff in compiz settings but that can break things, be very careful
[16:49] <TheLordOfTime> ThinkT510, might just install gnome-panel or whatever notunity is
[16:50] <TheLordOfTime> gnome-shell
[16:50] <TheLordOfTime> ;P
[16:51] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: the problem is maybe that www.marian32.com has a CNAME of marian32-blog.blogspot.com but blogspot does not know the domain name marian32.com
[16:52] <ztgu> Why does my laptop have so terrible battery life in linux?
[16:52] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: if your actual blog is now on an external host you need to remove that cname stuff from DNS
[16:52] <JPMH> Hans-Martin:  and malefiku  I do not agree - I did the dig - there is an A record and it points at an apache server that returns the re-direct
[16:52] <graingert> ztgu: have you tried powertop?
[16:52] <malefiku> In my domain settings in Blogger I checked/ticked a small box saying: "redirect marian32.com to www.marian32.com"
[16:52] <ztgu> graingert: yes,
[16:52] <ThinkT510> ztgu: largely depends on the drivers in use
[16:52] <JPMH> what may be the issue is that you are using a more complex URL that is not being re-directed by that server - what URL are you using, be VERY specific
[16:53] <graingert> ztgu: how much shorter is it? What's your graphics card?
[16:53] <majnoon> ok i was wondering is it possible to ssh into a machine and display a program on THAT box ??
[16:53] <Hans-Martin> marian32-blog.blogspot.com says "Das gesuchte Blog finden Sie nun unter  http://www.marian32.com/."
[16:53] <malefiku> Because Google Blogger does not accept naked domains
[16:53] <malefiku> Like http://example.com
[16:53] <LostMonk> is this a good walkthrough for installing gnome 3.6?
[16:53] <LostMonk> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[16:54] <rethus> i have a home-partition on my desktop and will install the hdd to another pc.
[16:54] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: so as I said, you need to remove the cname record for www.marian32.com
[16:54] <rethus> on the other pc the user-id 1000 is for entwickler. my desktop has suther for 1000
[16:54] <ThinkT510> LostMonk: whats wrong with gnome-shell in the repos?
[16:54] <malefiku> When you type marian32.com it actually appears in your browser www.marian32.con
[16:54] <malefiku> .com*
[16:54] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: why am I not seeing a CNAME record when I do a dig
[16:54] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: because that essentially creates a circular redirection thing
[16:55] <rethus> how can i change the new system from user "entwickler" to "suther" so that i didn't need to change the permissions on my home-partition of my desktop-hdd?
[16:55] <ztgu> graingert: I have an A10 cpu with integrated GPU + a radeon hd 7730M, I use vga_switcheroo to disable my inactive powerful GPU, the diffrence is 10 watts. tested with powerstat
[16:55] <malefiku> It is a redirect from naked to non nakex domain
[16:55] <malefiku> non-naked*
[16:55] <Hans-Martin> jpmh: did you run "dig www.marian32.com any"?
[16:55] <graingert> ztgu: looks like you know better than I do. Perhaps you're having issues with the linux power regression?
[16:55] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: and malefiku skip that - I see he has the CNAME for the www.marian32.com - I did the marian32 without the www - I agree - need to set that CNAME to point at the main one or get rid of it and have an A
[16:56] <M4532098> Hey
[16:56] <malefiku> Here are the 3 DNS Records settings I currently perform at my domain registrar, onlydomains.com
[16:56] <M4532098> I need help. How do install Ubuntu alongside windows using the ubuntu installer? (Wubi.exe)
[16:56] <malefiku> Check them out
[16:57] <ztgu> graingert: I am going to make a script which dissable NMI watchdog, when on battery. including the ethernetcard and others
 lol just install it
[16:57] <k1l> M4532098: i would recommend not to use a wubi install
[16:57] <gar_onn> M4532098, have you already downloaded it?
[16:57] <malefiku> The first one is www CNAME marian32-blog.blogspot.com
[16:58] <ztgu> graingert: Audio codec hwC0D0: ATI. Thing uses a lot of power. (powertop)
[16:58] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: that one is already nonsense. You need to point www to A 184.95.38.200
[16:58] <usr13> M4532098: wubi is not for installing alongside windows, it is for just installing a psuedo Ubuntu INSIDE windows, (just on the ntfs filesystem).  You need the regular Ubuntu install CD (or USB), to install alongside windows, (and have a dual boot system).
[16:58] <malefiku> www A 184.95.38.200
[16:58] <malefiku> And @ A 184.95.38.200
[16:58] <malefiku> What is wrong here?
[16:58] <srhb> Despite having set vm writeback timeout to 10 minutes, I keep seeing kB written in iostat every few seconds. What's going on? Why is it writing prematurely?
[16:59] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: yes, or CNAME www.marian32.com
[16:59] <malefiku> Like this www CNAME www.marian32.com
[16:59] <malefiku> Or what?
[16:59] <Hans-Martin> www should only have the A record, not cname
[17:00] <malefiku> Allright
[17:00] <malefiku> And the CNAME?
[17:00] <malefiku> Should i delete it?
[17:00] <usr13> malefiku: Hans-Martin YOu guys should move to private chanel.
[17:00] <Hans-Martin> www CNAME www.marian32.com would be a direct cycle, don't do that :-)
[17:00] <Hans-Martin> yes, delete the CNAME
[17:00] <JPMH> malefiku: have you told blogspot odf your domain - if not the CNAME will send you there but the host: line in the request will have your domain and they may not know what to do with it
[17:00] <malefiku> JPMH
[17:00] <malefiku> I have Google Webmaster
[17:01] <malefiku> The settings there work fine
[17:01] <Skei> Morning. My laptop keyboard has mostly stopped working, randomly. The tab key still works, I can still Ctrl + Alt + F1 and use the keyboard there, but under X, it's mostly unresponsive. Does anyone know how I can restart it without killing X ? My mouse occasionally does the same, I use modprobe to fix that.
[17:01] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: blogspot does a HTML redirection to www.marian32.com, that should be enough. No need to fix anything there.
[17:01] <Skei> External USB keyboards work fine, as an addition.
[17:02] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: thank you - was not certain what they did with a host: that was not them - but to do the re-direction he needs to have told them doesn't he?
[17:02] <malefiku> But if i delete the CNAME, it appears another trick/problem... My mobile website, located here www.marian32/?m=1(is visible only from the phone), does not work anymore
[17:03] <malefiku> :((((
[17:03] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: yup, but he already did if I understood correctly
[17:03] <Hans-Martin> for www you nneed to have the A record. do you have it?
[17:04] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: then I agree with you - if it is already done
[17:05] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: I run hundreds of domains I do not set A records for the www.  I set CNAME records for www to point at the main one.  Or, if I want all subdomains then I do a *. and an A
[17:05] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: that's also ok, in this case I had the impression that the www... was the main name
[17:06] <Skei> Actually, it looks like the keyboard is working, but it's just responding extremely slowly. If I hold down letters, I can eventually type.
[17:06] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: at the moment the DNS has not changed yet - why do you think it does not work anymore?
[17:06] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: I think I agree with you - actually I think we are saying exactly the same things all along
[17:07] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: good :-)
[17:08] <malefiku> Allright
[17:08] <malefiku> Deleted the old CNAME setting that pointed to old blogspot subdomain
[17:08] <malefiku> My blogspot old address is hosted at google
[17:08] <anonymous_> hmm
[17:09] <malefiku> I do not own a hosting service
[17:09] <anonymous_> i know a good hosting service
[17:09] <malefiku> Because i don't have access to blog database
[17:09] <malefiku> I don't own php admin
[17:10] <malefiku> The blog is still hosted by Blogger.com
[17:10] <anonymous_> check out galliumgroup.net
[17:10] <domedagen> How do I launch this "script" as su
[17:10] <domedagen> named install
[17:10] <malefiku> The only thing I changed is the address typed in the search bar
[17:10] <gvo> domedagen: sudo named install
[17:11] <domedagen> gvo: named?
[17:11] <malefiku> Instead of marian32-blog.blogspot.com it appeared marian32.com
[17:11] <gvo> What was your question?
[17:11] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: ah, that was not clear. I though you had changed the hosting with the address, and just pointed the old blogspot site to the new address
[17:11] <malefiku> No
[17:11] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: so everything we did was nonsense :-)
[17:11] <malefiku> I own only the domain service, the hosting is not included
[17:12] <malefiku> Yes
[17:12] <anonymous_> galliumgroup.net offer sweet hosting
[17:12] <domedagen> gvo:!
[17:12] <malefiku> But I had a big problem a few weeks ago
[17:12] <domedagen> gvo: !
[17:12] <malefiku> With the settings i have now
[17:13] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: since blogspot.com probably can't be convinced to accept your domain name, the whole thing likely cannot work the way you intended.
[17:13] <gvo> domedagen: I don't follow you.
[17:13] <malefiku> The two A records, www and @ , my mobile version of my blog does not work
[17:13] <gvo> domedagen: you asked a question, I aswered it you then said something unintelligible SOrry I can't hel[
[17:13] <gvo> help
[17:13] <malefiku> HANS-MARTIN, the domain worked 4 days ago
[17:13] <anonymous_> if you need a host check out  galliumgroup.net
[17:14] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: then what did change?
[17:14] <malefiku> For what?
[17:14] <JPMH> malefiku: Hans-Martin He could use the re-direct method that is there for the non-www and find a free host that would support the ONE page he would need for the re-direct
[17:14] <malefiku> The DNS got fucked up
[17:14] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: right
[17:15] <malefiku> The workers from technical department at onlydomains fucked my DNS over 30 times
[17:15] <TheLordOfTime> malefiku, please don't use that kind of foul language here.
[17:15] <malefiku> TheLordOfTime, copy that
[17:15] <gvo> malefiku: Just find another service.
[17:16] <JPMH> malefiku: look at the non-www record - it points to a server somewhere that is doing the re-direct - just set the www. to have a CNAME that points it at the non-www and make sure that the re-direct is what you want
[17:16] <malefiku> All right
[17:16] <malefiku> But in my onlydomains.com panel
[17:17] <JPMH> malefiku: does the domain registery provide the DNS that you are using?  If so, surely they have a web interface where you can change that www. record to be a CNAME pointing at the main one
[17:17] <malefiku> At my registrar, beneath the DNS section I have an option called Setup Web Redirection
[17:17] <malefiku> It has two option 302 temporary
[17:18] <malefiku> And 301 permanent
[17:18] <malefiku> I have also, after DNS records, a 301 redirection
[17:18] <JPMH> malefiku: and I suspect you did the permanent for the non-www which is why Is aw what I saw
[17:18] <malefiku> From www.marian32.com to marian32-blog.blogspot.com
[17:19] <JPMH> malefiku: the issue is that you did not do it for the www one
[17:19] <malefiku> No, JPMH
[17:19] <malefiku> Read carefully what I wrote
[17:19] <malefiku> I made a 301 redirect
[17:20] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: so you need the web redirection, but not the cname, and you need to remove the redirection set up at blogger.com
[17:20] <malefiku> But not from www.marian32.com to marian32.com
[17:20] <malefiku> But to marian32-blog.blogspot.com
[17:20] <JPMH> malefiku: as I say - I see the redirect and the correct DNS A record for the non-www  - but the www is different - as Hans-Martin  pointed out - it has a CNAME record
[17:21] <malefiku> If I make the following A setting: marian32.com A 162.239.32.21
[17:21] <anonymous_> http://www.galliumgroup.net - NOW ACCEPTING BITCOIN!
[17:21] <JPMH> malefiku: I c u changed it - I now get the same A record for both
[17:22] <malefiku> It will work?
[17:22] <Guest41790> Witam wszystkich
[17:23] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: 162.239.32.21?
[17:23] <malefiku> Yes
[17:23] <Guest41790> czy ktoś pisze po polsku??//
[17:23] <user109125> hi, copy and paste does not really seem to work in ubuntu 12.10 and terminal. it's very often delayed or I have to copy and cut something often to get it into clipboard
[17:23] <JPMH> malefiku: and I see that the re-ditrect is happening - but someone has configured blogspot to send me back away
[17:23] <user109125> does anyone have a solution for this?
[17:24] <malefiku> It is one of the four IPs offered by Google
[17:24] <demensdeum> nikto
[17:24] <Hans-Martin> Guest41790: no most people here don't speak polish language.
[17:24] <malefiku> See here
[17:25] <ztgu> Why is xorg using so much power?
[17:26] <malefiku> Read here
[17:26] <malefiku> http://support.google.com/blogger/bin/static.py?hl=en&ts=1233381&page=ts.cs
[17:26] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: those of us that are old enough speak REVERSE POLISH
[17:27] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: but only 3 levels deep
[17:27] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: I will get my boots then if it is getting deep :)
[17:28] <malefiku> If I put the following: marian32.com A  216.239.32.21
[17:28] <topper4125> !polish
[17:28] <malefiku> I see now what I do wrong
[17:28] <user109125> how can I even have two clipboards at the same time?
[17:28] <anonymous_> http://www.galliumgroup.net | Now Accepting Bitcoin!
[17:28] <Hans-Martin> topper4125: Guest41790 is already gone
[17:28] <demensdeum> there is something better for backup ntfs partition than partimage?
[17:29] <user109125> when using shift+ins I insert xxxx and if I use rightclick -> paste I insert yyyy
[17:29] <topper4125> grr hate it when that happens :/
[17:29] <user109125> in the same window
[17:29] <JPMH> malefiku: that is not the ip address that my DNS server is retruning when I query you
[17:29] <Hans-Martin> anonymous_: please do not spam
[17:29] <jchamb2010> Does anyone here have knowledge about dual network interface setups and wouldn't mind helping troubleshoot one?
[17:30] <gotwig> why cant I upgrade from e.g 11.10 to 12.10?
[17:30] <seednode> Depends what you'll be doing with it; I use 2 NIC on my laptop, but I'm not that knowledgeable about it beyond basics.
[17:31] <JPMH> gotwig: it is just the way they did it  - a pain I agree - you can go to LTS releases or the next one - 12.10 is not an LTS
[17:32] <jchamb2010> @seednode it's an internal and external network setup, I posted about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2100344 but then thought this would be a better place to ask.
[17:32] <gotwig> JPMH, I know..
[17:32] <gotwig> lts takes too long
[17:33] <JPMH> gotwig: I agree with you - it is a pain
[17:33] <seednode> jchamb2010: Sorry, not much experience with networking through VMs :/
[17:33] <jchamb2010> seednode: thanks for taking a look anyway :)
[17:33] <pats_Toms> hi, I have interesting problem, I have alsa-base, alsa-utils. But I can't run alsamixer
[17:33] <pats_Toms> "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" on alsamixer
[17:35] <gotwig> JPMH, can't I just change the distro name in source.list, and than upgrade packages?
[17:35] <theadmin> gotwig: Bad idea.
[17:35] <gotwig> warum
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> pats_Toms: I'm guessing maybe you don't have permission to access /dev/dsp
[17:35] <JPMH> gotwig: I doubt that it will work - but worth a try - the reason I doubt it is that if it was that easy others would have suggested it on the web
[17:35] <theadmin> gotwig: It might work, but packages may have changed names, just for example.
[17:36] <theadmin> There's a ton of other potential issues I don't want to bother to think about
[17:36] <mokujin> здравствуйте
[17:36] <theadmin> gotwig: What's the problem with a simple "do-release-upgrade" anyway
[17:36] <theadmin> !ru | mokujin
[17:36] <mokujin> есть русскоговорящие профессионалы убунту ?
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> gotwig: Make sure the system is completely up to date before you upgrade, disable all ppms first.
[17:36] <gotwig> theadmin, cant upgrade from 11.10 to 12.10
[17:36] <demensdeum> нету
[17:36] <theadmin> gotwig: Yeah not directly, sadly
[17:36] <pats_Toms> jhutchins_wk: I need to add my user to audio group?
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> gotwig: Yeah, you usually need to step through each version.
[17:37] <malefiku> Here is the thing
[17:37] <jhutchins_wk> pats_Toms: Possibly, possibly just log out and log back in, it should add the default user when it's set up.
[17:37] <malefiku> If I put www CNAME ghs.google.com ????
[17:37] <JPMH> gotwig: with the time we are spending here discussing it you could have upgraded unless you have a REALLY slow connection
[17:37] <Gnea> gotwig: just upgrade to 12.04 then upgrade it to 12.10
[17:37] <greg> hi
[17:37] <gotwig> I talk about theory..
[17:38] <gotwig> I dont have to upgrade.. but I have some ideas in mind
[17:38] <Gnea> theory is not practical
[17:38] <JPMH> malefiku: where do you REALLY want me to be taken when I selevct www.marian32.com - do you want to go directky to blogspot and have you told them that this is an alias to your account there
[17:38] <malefiku> Hans-Martin, JPMH what is your opinion?
[17:38] <gotwig> when someone wants to build a spinoff of ubuntu, he would have to use every lts release, to offer upgrades...
[17:38] <Gnea> gotwig: well, we're here to discuss support options. #ubuntu-discuss is probably a better place for what you wish to talk about.
[17:38] <malefiku> To my blog
[17:39] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: it depends on google understanding your domain name.
[17:39] <mokujin>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:39] <gotwig> thx you very much
[17:39] <Hans-Martin> if they don't interpret it correctly, it won't work
[17:39] <theadmin> mokujin: No spaces in front
[17:39] <malefiku> When you type www.marian32.com, you should be pointed to my blog old blogspot
[17:39] <theadmin> mokujin: (пробелов перед /join не нужно)
[17:39] <mokujin> someone can speak russian ?
[17:39] <malefiku> Hosted on Blogger
[17:40] <gotwig> mokujin, checkout #ubuntu-ru for Russian help
[17:40] <malefiku> Ok
[17:40] <JPMH> malefiku: and when you say your blog - do you mean at blogspot ?  If so, are they willing to allow access via YOUR domain name,  If so, just set the A record to point to them.  If they do not offer this then set your A to point somewhere that will do a redirect to your specific entry at blogspot
[17:40] <malefiku> If i change to ghs.google.com
[17:41] <malefiku> You won't see the question to redirect, when you access the old blogspot address
[17:41] <pats_Toms> jhutchins_wk: do you know something about that? http://sprunge.us/TefC
[17:41] <JPMH> malefiku: why do you want to get google involved?
[17:41] <pats_Toms> jhutchins_wk: I had the same on some alsa commands too
[17:41] <theadmin> pats_Toms: sudo useradd
[17:41] <malefiku> Lol
[17:41] <theadmin> pats_Toms: Also, use adduser
[17:42] <malefiku> JMPH, i feel like I am at FBI or RIS investigation
[17:42] <JPMH> malefiku: does blogspot allow you to access via your domain name and by so doing re-direct to your blog - if they do - then do that - if they don;t then you need to re-direct or possibly cloak
[17:42] <malefiku> Yes
[17:42] <malefiku> In my blogspot settings, I had option to add my custom domain
[17:43] <malefiku> And I added
[17:43] <malefiku> I feel like I am at RIS ( Romanian Intelligence Service)
[17:43] <Error404NotFound> If i am using dnscrypt dns queries shouldn't appear as plain text in tcpdump/wireshark logs, right?
[17:43] <malefiku> :)))))
[17:44] <pats_Toms> ehh, thats so bad
[17:44] <theadmin> Error404NotFound: Well, I'm not too sure what dnscrypt is, but being logical, I suppose so.
[17:45] <JPMH> malefiku: then why are you getting google involved?  As it happens it looked to me as though you told blogspot to re-direct AWAY from them to your new domain
[17:45] <malefiku> No
[17:45] <Error404NotFound> theadmin: dnscrypt is a tool from opendns to move to encrypted dns queries. Unfortunately i can see the queries in plain text in tcpdump/wireshark.
[17:46] <malefiku> I want my domain name address to display the blog
[17:46] <Hans-Martin> JPMH: but that's not what he intended. He wanted to keep the blog on blogspot.com but have it accessible under a nother domain name
[17:46] <malefiku> Hosted at Google
[17:46] <malefiku> Yes, Hans-Martin, finally you got it
[17:46] <Hans-Martin> blogspot = blogger.com = google
[17:47] <malefiku> Blogspot is a subdomain address, I changed with a professional domain
[17:47] <Hans-Martin> malefiku: it took me a while but I did get it some lines ago already :-) But the thing is that your config at blogspot.com seems to be confused
[17:47] <user109125> how many clipboards does ubuntu 12.10 use? oO now I figured out I can paste the correct content with ctrl + shift + ins, but not with ctrl+shift, not with middle mouse, not with right click paste, not with ctrl+v
[17:47] <malefiku> Yes
[17:47] <JPMH> Hans-Martin: and malefiku I agree - and that is why I do not understand why he is getting GOOGLE into this.  He wants to use HIS domain as an alias to blogspot.  He needs to tell blogspot that his domain connects to HIS blog - of they will allow that
[17:47] <malefiku> Perhaps
[17:48] <jrib> user109125: not with just "shift-insert"?
[17:48] <JPMH> malefiku: and Hans-Martin and he has set his blog to re-direct us to marian32.com - NOT what he wants
[17:49] <user109125> shift+insert has another clipboard string saved
[17:49] <Em_> Hi, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu. How can I determine if all my hardware drivers are installed? Does ubuntu have a device manager like in Windows? Or what command will I need to type in on the terminal to verify if my hardware drivers are installed?
[17:49] <jrib> user109125: does your ctrl-shift-insert work outside of libreoffice?  Like in gedit?
[17:49] <user109125> s/ctrl+shift/shift+insert/
[17:49] <user109125> yes
[17:49] <jrib> user109125: weird :)
[17:50] <user109125> no, it does not work in libreoffice. there shift+insert works
[17:50] <Muphrid> Em_: are you using 12.10?
[17:50] <Em_> Muphrid: Yeah
[17:50] <jrib> user109125: oh, I thought you meant openoffice when you said Oo
[17:51] <jrib> user109125: where does ctrl-shift-insert work?
[17:51] <Muphrid> Em_: you can open software-properties-gtk or search for "software sources" in the dash. theres a tab called additional drivers, those are the drivers that do not come installed by default
[17:51] <Muphrid> otherwise they come installed
[17:51] <user109125> jrib:  works in terminal
[17:51] <jrib> user109125: anywhere outside terminal?
[17:52] <user109125> not that I noticed of. . not in gedit, not in libreoffice
[17:52] <Em_> @Muphrid: Is there like an easy way to determine if my hardware drivers are installed? Without to need to go over a long list of which drivers did not com installed by default
[17:52] <jrib> user109125: and you're sure it's not the same output as either ctrl-shift-v or shift-insert in your terminal?
[17:53] <Muphrid> Em_: the list is not long, it is no more than 5 or 6 for most machines
[17:53] <user109125> yes, absolutely
[17:53] <user109125> im copying out of keepass2 .. probably that's the cause of that weird behaviour
[17:54] <jrib> user109125: here, ctrl-shift-insert just pastes whatever I copy with ctrl-shift-c (which I can also paste with ctrl-shift-v)
[17:54] <Em_> Muphrid, so If my hardware drivers are not listed, then it would mean that they are installed right?
[17:54] <sporkubus> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on my macbook pro running mountain lion and i'm not having any luck :(
[17:54] <Muphrid> Em_: if all is working, yes, they have a free license and are included in the kernel or the display protocol
[17:54] <Em_> Muphrid: Assuming that they aren't, how do I install them?
[17:55] <Muphrid> ATI drivers however dont show up in 12.10 although theyre not installed
[17:55] <malefiku> You should see it tommorrow
[17:55] <topper4125> !mac | sporkubus
[17:55] <user109125> sporkubus, whats the problem?
[17:56] <Muphrid> Em_: usually you can either search for a binary in the manufacturer website
[17:56] <Muphrid> forget the "either"
[17:56] <FlowRiser> in 24 hours 13.04 gets released ?
[17:57] <jrib> FlowRiser: doubtful...
[17:57] <Em_> Muphrid: I'm sorry, but I don't follow. How do I do that?
[17:57] <topper4125> Ubuntu for android is the best guess
[17:57] <sporkubus> !mac
[17:57] <Mongolski> hej
[17:57] <sporkubus> I tried following the instructions on the website
[17:57] <sporkubus> I also tried a few guides in different places on the internet
[17:58] <Muphrid> Em_: if you want to install a realtek driver, go to the realtek website, search for your card and then look for a linux executable, much like you would do in windows
[17:58] <sporkubus> mac won't recognize the Ubuntu install disc
[17:58] <Em_> @Muphrid: What if there aren't?
[17:58] <nashant> Anyone know how long it should take to pvmove a 2tb disk?
[17:58] <sporkubus> i tried burning it on several different computers and installed reFit, no luck
[17:58] <jrib> sporkubus: you used to need to hold down some key (was it 'c') during boot
[17:58] <Muphrid> Em_: worst case scenario a linux port isnt available
[17:58] <sporkubus> jrib: did that, the Ubuntu disc doesn't show up
[17:58] <Muphrid> are you trying anything specific, or just out of curiosity?
[17:58] <jrib> sporkubus: checksum your cd
[17:58] <FlowRiser> nashant, depends on the disk speed
[17:59] <user109125> I should switch to KeePassX, seems to copy anything properly without issues
[17:59] <sporkubus> jrib, how do I do that
[17:59] <phiberoptik> !fr
[17:59] <jrib> !verify | sporkubus
[17:59] <Ronalds_M> hello everyone
[17:59] <Em_> @Muphrid, cause I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Lenovo G480 notebook, but I don't think all of its drivers are installed.
[17:59] <topper4125> sporkubus did you verify the md5 of the download?\
[17:59] <nashant> FlowRiser: sata II
[17:59] <jrib> sporkubus: also, you burned the image meant for macs?
[17:59] <Muphrid> Em_: why do you think that?
[17:59] <sporkubus> jrib I burned the one on the ubuntu website
[17:59] <FlowRiser> !sata2
[17:59] <sporkubus> where is the one meant for macs
[18:00] <Ronalds_M> I have ubuntu 12.10, and Nexuiz, just started to stop working, I can't start it
[18:00] <Em_> @Muphrid, When I connected my ethernet cable to the ethernet port, the Internet connection icon located on the upper right corner does not show or indicate it is connected to the Internet.
[18:00] <jrib> sporkubus: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ see the "Mac" images there
[18:00] <JPMH> how will Ubuntu operate with the new WINDOZE 8 certified PCS that insist on a signed (my the evil empire) loader
[18:00] <Muphrid> Em_: but is it connected either way?
[18:01] <graingert> JPMH: should work fine from 13.04 onwards
[18:01] <Ronalds_M> "nexuiz
[18:01] <Ronalds_M> Game is Nexuiz using base gamedir data
[18:01] <Ronalds_M> Nexuiz Linux 06:05:17 Feb 13 2012 0~20110628+svn11619-2 Ubuntu
[18:01] <Ronalds_M> Current nice level is below the soft limit - cannot use niceness
[18:01] <Ronalds_M> Skeletal animation uses SSE code path
[18:01] <FloodBot1> Ronalds_M: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <Em_> Muphrid: It also gave me an error message regarding my display saying that something is wrong with my GPU or something.
[18:01] <topper4125> sporkubus, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/burn-a-dvd-on-mac-osx
[18:01] <graingert> JPMH: but not on Windows RT
[18:01] <phiberoptik> !fr
[18:01] <sporkubus> topper4125 I followed those instructions
[18:01] <graingert> JPMH: those platforms are controlled like iPads
[18:01] <Em_> Muphrid: Well, when I boot up in Windows, I can connect to the Internet. But in Ubuntu, I can't.
[18:01] <graingert> :(
[18:01] <JPMH> graingert: yes - but how - are they getting MS to sign the Ubuntu loader?
[18:01] <stef1a> my sound doesn't work in ubuntu 12.10 and i've tried using the ubuntu troubleshooting guide
[18:02] <topper4125> and what happens... where does it get stuck?
[18:02] <graingert> JPMH: the linux foundation have a bootloader that was signed
[18:02] <sporkubus> after burning it says "The disc you inserted was not readable by this computer" and ejects it
[18:02] <Em_> Muphrid: It also doesn't have sound.
[18:02] <sporkubus> I also tried burning the disc using a windows computer, inserted it into my mac and it did the same thing
[18:02] <Em_> Muphrid: So I'm plannign to go to a Wi-Fi hotspot later and see if I could connect wirelessly.
[18:02] <graingert> JPMH: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2012/10/linux-foundation-uefi-secure-boot-system-open-source
[18:03] <JPMH> graingert: ty - is it like a wedge that loads itself and then allows anything else to be loaded as the chain loading of Grub allows?
[18:03] <topper4125> sporkubus, did you verify the iso image?
[18:03] <sporkubus> topper4125 how do I do that
[18:03] <Muphrid> Em_: ive never seen the first two problems. did you have sound before or it never occurred?
[18:03] <sporkubus> is that the checksum thing you mentioned
[18:03] <topper4125> !verify | sporkubus
[18:03] <stef1a> can someone help me with my sound? it's not working, though the earbuds work
[18:03] <topper4125> yup
[18:04] <Ronalds_M> anybody knows why nexuiz suddenly could stop from working?
[18:04] <Em_> Muphrid: It never occured. I'm thinking, maybe I just need to update the kernel uh . . . I don't know I'm really not sure. Is there a command I could type in on the terminal to download all the packages needed to update the kernel?
[18:04] <sporkubus> topper 4125 those instructions say
[18:05] <Em_> Muphrid: I was hoping that I could connect wirelessly and update the kernel and that will resolve the issue.
[18:05] <sporkubus> "Go to the "Images" menu and select Checksum > MD5. Be sure to choose "MD5" and NOT "MD5 image checksum" or "CRC-32 image checksum", as they are not the same and will give you different results. " but I don't have the MD5 option
[18:05] <ztgu> I am trying to compile "ndiswrapper" but when I type make I get error. How can I fix this error?
[18:05] <graingert> JPMH: yeah
[18:05] <Muphrid> Em_: you should check if any driver is listed in software-properties-gtk
[18:05] <JPMH> graingert: that URL you gave me IS GREAT!  Thank you so much
[18:06] <Em_> Muphrid: What does it mean if it is?
[18:06] <Muphrid> Em_: they have a button for activation, thought you will need internet to download it. But it gives more information for debugging
[18:06] <graingert> JPMH: microsoft accidentally signed it anyway! http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/adventures-in-microsoft-uefi-signing/
[18:06] <topper4125> sporkubus, are you using the mac now, or a windows machine?
[18:07] <sporkubus> topper4125 using mac now.. hold on I think I figured it out
[18:07] <Muphrid> though*
[18:07] <Em_> Muphrid: Thanks for your assistance, I really appreciate it. I'll try that command later on.
[18:07] <sporkubus> topper4125 the hash matches exactly
[18:08] <sporkubus> so somebody else said I need to download a different ISO for mac
[18:08] <sporkubus> i'm using  ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:08] <graingert> JPMH: “Don’t use that file that is incorrectly signed. I will get back to you.”  said microsoft
[18:08] <jrib> sporkubus: yes, that's not going to work...
[18:08] <topper4125> sporkubus, k... that's odd the desktop download should work... do you have a USB Stick available?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> !mac > sporkubus
[18:08] <graingert> JPMH: they signed it with an unrevokeable generic microsoft key
[18:09] <graingert> JPMH: (morons)
[18:09] <ztgu> what more than build-essential does one need to compile programs?
[18:09] <JPMH> graingert: it is not an issue for me at this time.  In the event that I buy a machine that is Windoze 8 certified I will disable the secure boot anyway
[18:09] <FlowRiser> QUESTION: What is the purpose of the countdown on ubuntu.com ?
[18:09] <jrib> FlowRiser: we don't know.  Feel free to speculate in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <topper4125> sporkubus, might want to give a USB install a try: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:09] <JPMH> FlowRiser: someone here said that 13.04 will be out shortly - makes no sense since it is only 13.01 but maybe a pre-release
[18:10] <ztgu> FlowRiser: new ubuntu
[18:10] <sporkubus> topper4125 tried usb install... when i reboot, reFit doesn't see the usb
[18:10] <sporkubus> MonkeyDust that guide doesn't have 12.10 instructions for my mac version
[18:10] <sporkubus> MonkeyDust actually I don't even see my macbook on that page
[18:10] <topper4125> wow.. then i'm out of ideas... sorry sporkubus. :(
[18:10] <graingert> JPMH: well it's handy. All the Loader.c is doing is making it more user friendly for users.
[18:11] <jrib> sporkubus: why don't you burn the "amd64 Mac" version?
[18:11] <graingert> JPMH: you can manually add the signatures to your own UEFI repo
[18:11] <sporkubus> jrib yes I was about to ask you about that
[18:11] <topper4125> which mac are you trying to install it on?
[18:11] <sporkubus> early 2011 macbook pro
[18:11] <JPMH> graingert: I agree - having read the page you gave me I like what they are doing
[18:11] <graingert> JPMH: you may as well keep it, it's a useful feature
[18:11] <ztgu> what more than build-essential does one need to compile programs?
[18:11] <FlowRiser> ztgu, yes, build-essential will cover most needs
[18:11] <jrib> ztgu: the dependencies of the program you are compiling.  What are you compiling?
[18:11] <sporkubus> jrib OK, I am downloading it now. so I just follow the regular DVD burn instructions and it should work?
[18:11] <jrib> sporkubus: yes
[18:12] <FlowRiser> ztgu, cpp, c, python and other compilers
[18:12] <ztgu> jrib, FlowRiser : I am trying to compile ndiswrapper.
[18:12] <theadmin> ztgu: Why would you? That's in the repos.
[18:12] <FlowRiser> ztgu, should do the trick, it's in c
[18:13] <ztgu> theadmin: I need to know compiling
[18:13] <jrib> ztgu: use apt, it's in the repositories as theadmin pointed out
[18:13] <theadmin> ztgu: Ha, fair enough
[18:13] <JPMH> graingert: what use is it to me?
[18:13] <graingert> JPMH: it's much harder to rootkit your box
[18:13] <topper4125> sporkubus, about the only thing I found was: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro and check the wiki links at the bottom.
[18:14] <graingert> JPMH: as you can't flash the bios and get away with it
[18:14] <JPMH> graingert: realistically if I do not indulge in dangerous behavoir I do not see how I am likely to get a rootkit anyway
[18:15] <JPMH> graingert: how does it stop a bios flash happening?
[18:23] <LostMonk> whoops
[18:23] <LostMonk> someone kicked a plug :OP
[18:24] <LostMonk> if I am running cairo, how do I make it start automatically on boot?
[18:24] <ztgu> Can I install all drivers from here http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Multimedia_Entertainment/N56DP/#download   by using ndiswrapper?
[18:26] <bekks> ztgu: No.
[18:27] <graingert> JPMH: what was the last message you got from me?
[18:27] <ztgu> bekks: how?
[18:28] <JPMH> graingert: last message I received from you was telling me that it stopped flashing the bios - and I asked why and heard no more
[18:28] <bekks> ztgu: ndiswrapper is for networking only, so you cant user other drivers with it.
[18:28] <graingert> JPMH: you're not likely to get a virus. But the cost/risk is worth it. You just need to accept Ubuntu's signing key via the Loader.c interface and off you go
[18:29] <graingert> then you can just leave it alone
[18:29] <ztgu> bekks: ty
[18:29] <graingert> it's not worth disabling it
[18:29] <graingert> although Canonical might get the Ubuntu loader signed themselves.
[18:29] <graingert> Loader.c is aimed at low funding Linux distros
[18:29] <graingert> JPMH: sorry not the bios, I meant people can't just attack the bootloader
[18:29] <graingert> of your OS
[18:29] <JPMH> yep - I do see that it is a GREAT solution - I could even use it for the distro that I make and use in my coffee shops and bars
[18:30] <JPMH> graingert: OK - that makes sense - I did not understand how it could protect the BIOS
[18:30] <graingert> JPMH: well in UEFI the bios is fully protected, as there is not one
[18:30] <graingert> I missspoke
[18:31] <JuJuBee> Is  linuxmint same as ubuntu?
[18:31] <JPMH> graingert: I guessed as much and wanted to confirm - as it happens I can not imagine buying a Windoze8 certified machine for some time
[18:32] <Hans-Martin> JuJuBee: as far as I know mint is based on ubuntu, so they are similar, but it's not the same thing
[18:32] <topper4125> JujuBee, Linux Mint is a spin off of Ubuntu.. about the same as ubuntu is a spin off of  Debian
[18:33] <JuJuBee> Hans-Martin: thanks for that.  I was considering trying it out and when I went to downloads, I see all the Ubuntu names as the base package for mint
[18:34] <Hans-Martin> JuJuBee: best would be to read web pages comparing the two, then you get a broader view than here :-)
[18:34] <topper4125> my only problem with mint is the political views of the creator of it
[18:34] <JuJuBee> Hans-Martin: thanks will look at them
[18:34] <nima__> hey
[18:35] <nima__> i have a problem flashing
[18:35] <nima__> recovery
[18:35] <nima__> via terminal
[18:35] <nima__> in android
[18:35] <theadmin> nima__: #android is the place
[18:35] <nima__> i have fastboot drivers but it doesn't recognize it!
[18:36] <nima__> what do you mean?!
[18:36] <nima__> android is an Os!
[18:36] <Hans-Martin> nima__: in what sense is this an ubuntu problem if you have problems with flashing android?
[18:36] <theadmin> nima__: Duh, this isn't an Ubuntu problem though. Go to #android.
[18:36] <nima__> ok!
[18:36] <nima__> tnx
[18:37] <Hans-Martin> nima__: or do you use an ubuntu host to flash your phone?
[18:38] <theadmin> Hans-Martin: That wouldn't matter. Fastboot and things like that aren't supported by Ubuntu anyway.
[18:38] <theadmin> Well, as in, they're not in the repos, so can't help much with them
[18:39] <loganrun> how to I connect to a printer shared via cups on ubuntu, on another system I don't see the shared printer
[18:40] <loganrun> When I click on the printer in the server I see: usb://HP/LaserJet%201320%20series?serial=00CNHC61Q4WM
[18:40] <loganrun> but I don't understand why it is not visible on the network
[18:40] <loganrun> this seems like a pretty basic thing that ubunutu should support
[18:42] <bekks> loganrun: Because you did not share it with samba, but just configured the printer?
[18:42] <llutz> loganrun: "grep Browsing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
[18:42] <loganrun> bekks, I used cups to share the printer,
[18:43] <loganrun> what the heck does the share printer option on cups do then
[18:43] <bekks> loganrun: I just asked what you did...
[18:43] <llutz> loganrun: no need for samba to share cups-printers
[18:43] <Hans-Martin> loganrun: If you used cups to share it but it is not visible chances are good that you did something wrong. But we don't know what.
[18:44] <loganrun> don't know what either, the printer works locallally, and there is only one box to check for sharing
[18:44] <llutz> loganrun:check  "grep Browsing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf"   on or off?
[18:44] <loganrun> is it shared via samba or does it use Bonjour or soemthing
[18:44] <Hans-Martin> is the other system ubuntu or windows?
[18:44] <loganrun> ubuntu
[18:45] <loganrun> I do have a samba server running on the system for files, will that be in conflict with cups sharing
[18:45] <loganrun> how do I bring up the firewall configuratino gui over ssh with x forwarding
[18:46] <paull> hello can anyone tell me why after i have installed ubuntu on my laptop my laptop's fan runs like non-stop
[18:46] <loganrun> tried system-config-firewall but that doesn't seem to exist
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> loganrun  firestarter or gufw
[18:46] <topper4125> paull, laptop make/model?
[18:46] <jhutchins_wk> Samba can make the printer visible via WINS browsing and may offer an smb connection.  Windows is capable of discovering and using printers using other types of sharing, including web and ip print protocols.
[18:46] <paull> dell inspiron 5110
[18:47] <llutz> loganrun: last attempt: check  "grep Browsing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf"   is it on or off?
[18:47] <paull> it's not even model related or anything actually i have seen many threads about this issue but the methods of fixing this issue didnt work for me
[18:47] <loganrun> Jhlorn, how does cups share printers with the share box?
[18:48] <paull> do you think it could be because i installed ubuntu inside windows with wubi?
[18:48] <topper4125> paull, that could be maybe try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1884876 start reading at post #5
[18:49] <paull> k let me see
[18:50] <topper4125> paull, post #9 has a link to a solve for battery and fan issues
[18:50] <loganrun> there used to be  a firewall configuration gui built into ubuntu I thought, something like system-config-firewall
[18:50] <loganrun> can't find that anymore
[18:51] <jrib> loganrun: gufw?
[18:51] <loganrun> jrib, yeah, tried that, but it doesn' seem like it shows the existing rules
[18:51] <topper4125> !firewall
[18:51] <jrib> loganrun: how did you set the existing rules?
[18:52] <loganrun> jrib, actually it doesn't let me do anything, stragnge ran it as dudo gufw
[18:52] <jrib> loganrun: you should use "gksudo" for graphical applications
[18:52] <topper4125> !gksu
[18:52] <jrib> (though it probably won't change what you see)
[18:55] <loganrun> o.k. tried sudo ufw disable, and tried checking for printers on my client machine, but still can't see the one shared via cups
[18:55] <loganrun> maybe I need to restart cups or something
[18:56] <loganrun> nope still no good
[18:57] <topper4125> did you take a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[18:59] <mtx> is there any special steps to get 12.10 xrdp working? I can't log in from a windows 7 machine
[18:59] <_porque> hello world
[19:00] <topper4125> mtx, is it just a blank screen?
[19:00] <mtx> yes
[19:00] <loganrun> topper4125, will look
[19:01] <topper4125> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91657/blank-desktop-when-logging-in-via-xrdp
[19:01] <_porque> I have this functions in my .bashrc https://gist.github.com/4429365
[19:01] <_porque> they are I want to make the git branch red and there is something to commit
[19:01] <_porque> the solution I have now is to add the ! with the branch name...but colorizing it will be a lot better =)
[19:02] <jrib> _porque: try #bash.  There are probably already ready-made solutions for this
[19:02] <trickyj> ls
[19:03] <mtx> it just says failed to load session "ubuntu-2d"
[19:04] <_porque> jrib, I found one but using Zsh
[19:04] <jrib> _porque: yes
[19:04] <_porque> jrib, ok..so that will do it =) thanks ;)
[19:05] <Guest1322> Всем привет! (RU)
[19:05] <topper4125> try this one mtx: http://www.thedotproduct.org/2012/06/quick-fix-cant-log-in-to-ubuntu-12-04-gnome-via-rdp-failed-to-load-session-ubuntu/
[19:05] <phiberoptik__> !fr
[19:05] <SnowBro-> hello there, may i ask something about LAMP?
[19:06] <topper4125> !ru | guest 1322
[19:07] <bekks> SnowBro-: Sure.
[19:07] <SnowBro-> first of all i want to say sorry for my english, it's not my native...now the issue, im NEW to Linux and i pick Ubuntu Server as my option because the great support community that it has, im trying to put to work a machine as a server, i already installes LAMP environment (from tasksel), and i have everything working inside my network (i can access to the server in every machine inside my house), but i dont know how to go out with the se
[19:07] <SnowBro-> rver, thats my issue, any clues?
[19:10] <Steevca> Is there a channel for a general linux discusion ?
[19:10] <Steevca> I am trying to find a good linux distro for a an old,low preformance pc.
[19:10] <k1l_> Steevca: ##linux ?
[19:10] <wessly> Debian lenny.
[19:11] <Steevca> k1l_ thanks.
[19:12] <george> hi
[19:12] <mtx> still not having any luck topper4125 :/
[19:12] <SnowBro-> anyone can point me in the right direction please, maybe a tut :/
[19:13] <topper4125> mtx, grrr... alright lemme look around...
[19:13] <mtx> it just says failed to load session "ubuntu-2d" rather than a black screen
[19:14] <dagerik> SnowBro-: go out with the server? write again in other words
[19:14] <SnowBro-> haha sorry
[19:14] <SnowBro-> that dont sound good right
[19:15] <SnowBro-> i mean, i need to made a virtual host, something like that, so i can access the server from outside my network
[19:15] <dagerik> SnowBro-: you are probably NAT-ed, so people from outside cant access your server.
[19:15] <bekks> SnowBro-: You also need a portforwarding on your router.
[19:16] <rckrd> hey guys, i posted this in #ubuntu-server, but no responses.  Maybe someone can help me: hey guys, so i've have a small personal server and i want to use it for a few different things (development, music server, etc).  Whats the best way to keep these functions separate?  Virtual machines?  Or just different users and groups?
[19:16] <Sapirus_> Dynamic DNS could be helpful ;)
[19:16] <SnowBro-> hmmm
[19:16] <topper4125> mtx, hmm not really finding anything... everything i find pretty much says the same... restart x
[19:17] <bekks> rckrd: virtual machines.
[19:17] <SnowBro-> in the router i already did the port forwarding
[19:17] <mtx> tried that :( oh well thanks for looking
[19:17] <SnowBro-> but the "NAT-ed" (dont get it)
[19:17] <SnowBro-> sorry
[19:17] <bekks> SnowBro-: For testing, you have to be outside your network.
[19:17] <SnowBro-> i have a cellphone with internet conection so there i test
[19:17] <rckrd> bekks: whats the easiest to setup without a gui?  virtualbox?
[19:18] <bekks> rckrd: Yes.
[19:18] <compdoc> I think virtualbox is all about the gui. qemu-kvm might be better
[19:19] <bekks> compdoc: You are wrong. virtualbox provides "VBoxHeadless" too.
[19:19] <rckrd> yeah bekks, i did see that when i was looking through the doc
[19:19] <compdoc> qemu-kvm is still a good choice
[19:19] <compdoc> can virtualbox even start VMs at boot? Didnt used to
[19:20] <bekks> compdoc: Yes.
[19:20] <rckrd> Should I not do anything on the base ubuntu server itself besides run virtual machines then?
[19:21] <bekks> rckrd: Thats how you'll keep things separated.
[19:21] <compdoc> the base machine can still run samba or other services that dont require speration
[19:21] <compdoc> seperation/isolation
[19:22] <bekks> compdoc: Basically, no services actually require isolation. :)
[19:22] <compdoc> not a bad idea to have a dedicated VM for music, email server, firewall, what have you
[19:23] <compdoc> you can screw up installing a package and its easy to start over
[19:26] <topper4125> compdoc have you taken a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[19:27] <topper4125> 'err meant for rckrd...
[19:27] <compdoc> do you have to have kvm installed for LXC?
[19:28] <topper4125> dunno.... just found it and shared
[19:28] <rckrd> topper4125: checking it out, but the concern is that im going to be hosting a small media server for me and my friends
[19:28] <rckrd> and i dont want to them connecting anywhere near my development environment
[19:29] <topper4125> sadly, all of my file sharing needs are met with google drive and UbuntuOne... haven't the need for anything deeper than cloud storage
[19:35] <ibolmo> howdy. i've tried to upgrade doing do-release-upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 (and it was successful) but going from 11.10 to 12.04 I got stuck with libc6 not being able to install since I have an older kernel
[19:35] <ibolmo> 2.6.18, and libc requiring a newer kernel.
[19:36] <ibolmo> i can either upgrade the kernel, or force the install of a libc that will support my kernel.
[19:36] <jrib> ibolmo: did you reboot after the upgrade to 11.10?
[19:36] <ibolmo> yes
[19:36] <ibolmo> let me do a hard reboot to make sure
[19:36] <jrib> ibolmo: can you pastebin the error you are seeing?
[19:36] <ibolmo> sure one sec
[19:38] <jrib> ibolmo: is there a reason you're on a 2.6 kernel?  Seems like 3.0 is what was in ubuntu 11.10
[19:38] <ibolmo> http://pastebin.com/jaf8zWJt
[19:38] <rckrd> i had that error before too.  sadly, it totally escapes me how i figured it out.  It was an easy fix though, that i remember
[19:38] <ibolmo> i'm on a virtual server, and i'm guessing that i'm booting into an old kernel
[19:40] <jrib> ibolmo: hmm, you should probably contact your provider about it
[19:40] <ibolmo> jrib: is there a way to check what other kernels are available? say.. through grub..
[19:41] <leonardomilleuno> ciao gente
[19:42] <jrib> ibolmo: I don't know.  Probably depends on what sort of virtualization environment you are in
[19:42] <ratfistcomic> The transmission packages provided in the Main ubuntu repository are outdated for 12.10. What is the process for getting them updated, either by myself, or requesting someone else to?
[19:43] <jrib> !sru | ratfistcomic
[19:43] <jrib> ratfistcomic: if it's not a security issue, then your best bet is backports or just finding a ppa for more recent versions and using that
[19:44] <ratfistcomic> Thanks jrib! In my opinion, that seems a little silly. I'll read into that article
[19:45] <Thundarr> do any of you have a usb3 dock that you use with ubuntu?
[19:45] <Thundarr> hdd dock?
[20:01] <mefistofeles> what's the counter on ubuntu.com for?
[20:03] <RollinV2> mefistofeles, thats a good question
[20:03] <DJones> mefistofeles: We're as much in the dark as you, we're waiting for the announcement ourselves
[20:03] <Noskcaj> mefistofeles, that is wierd
[20:04] <Sling> ubuntuphone
[20:04] <kostkon> mefistofeles, end of the world
[20:04] <RollinV2> maybe a new ubuntu website?
[20:04] <RollinV2> cant be a OS release, next one is in april
[20:04] <Sling> 'touch', get it
[20:04] <mefistofeles> right
[20:04] <RollinV2> ubuntu phone would not be random announcement with no media hype
[20:04] <mefistofeles> touch
[20:04] <mefistofeles> ubuntudroid?
[20:04] <mefistofeles> xD
[20:04] <FloodBot1> mefistofeles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:05] <anonymous_> galliumgroup.net : now accepting btc
[20:05] <psichas> happy new year :D
[20:05] <topper4125> ubuntu for android
[20:06] <anonymous_> HappyNewYear from everyone at galliumgroup.net
[20:06] <RollinV2> already have ubuntu for android, but an official app would be cool
[20:06] <Sling> anonymous_: nice advertising
[20:06] <anonymous_> thanks Sling
[20:07] <Noskcaj> it could always be gnubuntu joining
[20:07] <topper4125> Not sure that would be a very 'touching' introduction
[20:07] <never2far> hello, is there any way to disable automount for a windows partition of an external HDD  ?
[20:09] <RollinV2> if you need to hide the data encrpt the partition
[20:09] <topper4125> never2far, check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[20:12] <giovannni> ciao
[20:13] <giovannni> !list
[20:14] <topper4125> giovanni, that's about the 4th time I've seen you do that in a week....
[20:16] <Tynach> Help! My Ubuntu installation will not boot. It's a bit of a long story as to what's happened though, but right now I believe either the filesystem or the LVM system is corrupt.
[20:18] <Tynach> I got a new graphics card, and installed it; but it wasn't stable because, I believe, my PSU isn't powerful enough to power everything. I unplugged a few hard drives I didn't currently use and got a 'stable' system back, but it began to act up again. So I tried running FSCK in recovery mode. That froze up, with no hard drive light blinking, so I rebooted. This happened 2 - 3 times. Now Linux won't boot, not even recovery mode.
[20:18] <Tynach> I'm having to use Windows :/
[20:19] <skp1> re-install.
[20:19] <Tynach> The LVM was not encrypted; are you sure there's no way to recover it?
[20:19] <skp1> nop
[20:19] <skp1> ..
[20:19] <Tynach> Nop as in you're not sure, or nop as in there's no way?
[20:19] <bekks> Tynach: Do you get any error messages?
[20:19] <bekks> Tynach: He is not sure.
[20:20] <Tynach> I get dropped to a busybox ash shell, and it says that /dev/mapper/vg-root_lv-root does not exist (paraphrased, I can't exactly copy/paste the error message).
[20:21] <Tynach> Which is why I suspect the LVM being screwy.
[20:21] <Catbuntu> Hi
[20:21] <Catbuntu> One question.
[20:21] <Gnea> One answer.
[20:21] <Catbuntu> I have a sda3 partition with this logical partitions:
[20:21] <bekks> Tynach: Then check wether it exists.
[20:21] <Catbuntu> sda5 (home), sda6 (ubuntu), sda7 (swap), sda9 (xubuntu), sda8 (mint)
[20:22] <Catbuntu> I want to remove sda8 and sda6 and add their space to sda5
[20:22] <Catbuntu> But I think I can't, because there're sda7 and sda9 in the middle
[20:22] <Tynach> bekks, how do I do that from WIndows? As far as I know, there are no LVM aware Linux file browsers on Windows.
[20:22] <Catbuntu> I could append sda6's space to sda5, but not sda8's space, could I?
[20:22] <bekks> Tynach: You'll do it from the busybox or a livecd.
[20:23] <Tynach> bekks, do you know if 12.04 supports LVM with its live CD? I know 11.10 and before did not.
[20:23] <bekks> Catbuntu: You could move partitions and do what you want.
[20:23] <Catbuntu> How?
[20:23] <bekks> Catbuntu: By using gparted, e.g.
[20:23] <Gnea> Catbuntu: sure you could, they're logical
[20:23] <Catbuntu> So I can move the sda9 partition next to sda6?
[20:23] <Catbuntu> Oh, didn't know that
[20:24] <Gnea> well you said they were logical
[20:24] <Catbuntu> Then I'm gonna do that from a LiveDVD
[20:24] <Catbuntu> Yes, I think tey're, let me check
[20:24] <Gnea> sounds like a good idea
[20:24] <Gnea> I suggest gparted
[20:24] <Catbuntu> Yep, it's what I always use
[20:24] <Gnea> awesome
[20:24] <Catbuntu> Synapse is amazing btw
[20:25] <Catbuntu> Gnea, can I move partitions if they're mounted and in use?
[20:25] <Catbuntu> I don't think so haha
[20:26] <bekks> Catbuntu: No, you cant.
[20:26] <Gnea> Catbuntu: not without causing problems
[20:26] <remontees> Lapinou Year !
[20:26] <Catbuntu> Let me see
[20:26] <Catbuntu> GParted won't do nothing if I don't apply it, will it?
[20:26] <Gnea> Catbuntu: right.
[20:26] <Tynach> Hm, I found a Backtrack live CD. I'm going to reboot into it.
[20:26] <mohawk> Hello, I Am Having Issues With Ubuntu 12.04. It Cannot Connect To My Private WPA2 Network. It connects just fine to unlocked networks, but I have no internet connection. It just shows that I am connected and the webpage never loads.
[20:27] <Catbuntu> But how do I move it?
[20:27] <bekks> Catbuntu: By adding free space before or after the partition.
[20:27] <Catbuntu> well, wait
[20:28] <genteor> hey
[20:28] <mohawk> back, sorry the irc got all messed up
[20:28] <Gnea> Catbuntu: http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[20:28] <mohawk> so, anyone have any ideas?
[20:29] <Gnea> mohawk: enter the wpa2 password.
[20:29] <Catbuntu> Kook
[20:29] <Catbuntu> Look*
[20:29] <Catbuntu> sda3 is an extended partition.
[20:29] <Catbuntu> Inside of it, there're the partitions mentioned above.
[20:29] <Catbuntu> So that partitions are logical?
[20:29] <mohawk> I did, but the little box keeps telling me to enter it again
[20:29] <FloodBot1> Catbuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <bekks> Catbuntu: Yes.
[20:29] <Gnea> Catbuntu: right, and 5-9 are contained within 3
[20:29] <mohawk> I have tried to manually connect and everything, but that little 'password box' pops up every few secons
[20:29] <Gnea> Catbuntu: yes, if a partition is within an extended partition, it is logical
[20:30] <Gnea> Catbuntu: otherwise, it is primary
[20:30] <mohawk> and it tells me to enter my passcode again
[20:30] <Gnea> mohawk: then enter it correctly
[20:30] <mohawk> I did
[20:30] <KeyboardNotFound> Hello all, i love that you talk microphone to listen to the speaker?
[20:30] <Gnea> mohawk: do you have control of your ap?
[20:30] <Catbuntu> So if I want to move sda8 next to sda5, what do I have to do?
[20:30] <mohawk> yes
[20:30] <bekks> Catbuntu: By adding free space before or after the partition.
[20:30] <mohawk> any other network I connect to still gives me internet issues
[20:30] <Gnea> mohawk: so double check the logs on there and also make sure that the mac address isn't blacklisted
[20:30] <Catbuntu> And how can I add it?
[20:31] <Catbuntu> resizing it to less?
[20:31] <bekks> Catbuntu: Did you read the article you have been given?
[20:31] <mohawk> It was on the list yesterday, it just all of a sudden (after a restart) could never connect again
[20:31] <Gnea> Catbuntu: please read the URL that I just gave you. It has a lot of detailed steps, many of which you will need to take.
[20:31] <bekks> Catbuntu: resizing a partition is NOT adding space before or after.
[20:31] <Catbuntu> Oh I didn't see it Gnea.
[20:32] <Gnea> 14:28 < Gnea> Catbuntu: http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[20:32] <Catbuntu> Thanks
[20:32] <Gnea> np
[20:32] <mohawk> I mean, it was working just fine yesterday and then I lost connection after a restart and ould never connect again. It is not the router eith
[20:32] <mohawk> I have kindles, xboxes, macs, pcs, even my dualboot (windows not ubuntu) all hooked up
[20:32] <mohawk> they all work fine except ubuntu
[20:33] <Gnea> mohawk: you'll just have to login to the ap and see what's happening on that end. perhaps you have mac address listing enabled.
[20:33] <mohawk> I have the mac address on that list
[20:33] <Gnea> mohawk: also, what's the make & model of the ap? and what wifi device is on ubuntu?
[20:33] <bekks> mohawk: Check dmesg first to see wether you are missing some firmware or experiencing other errors.
[20:33] <mohawk> ok, because it is only ubuntu causing issues
[20:33] <Catbuntu> I still can't understand.
[20:34] <mohawk> nothing else
[20:34] <Gnea> Catbuntu: can't or won't?
[20:34] <mohawk> I mean I am on windows right now and I get great internet speeds connected to the same router
[20:34] <Gnea> mohawk: are you sure that ubuntu is setup correctly to handle wifi on that computer?
[20:34] <Catbuntu> Look:
[20:35] <mohawk> Should be, it worked yesterday
[20:35] <Catbuntu> http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a599/tomeuari/gp_zps589d20a2.png <- That's what I have
[20:35] <mohawk> I never changed aanything
[20:35] <Gnea> mohawk: that doesn't tell us what changed
[20:35] <Gnea> mohawk: I bet I know one thing that changed...
[20:35] <mohawk> what?
[20:35] <Gnea> the year.
[20:35] <mohawk> lol
[20:35] <Gnea> fact. :-)
[20:35] <Catbuntu> And I want to move sda8 next to sda6.
[20:35] <mohawk> I am not one for facts..
[20:36] <remontees> lapinou year
[20:36] <Catbuntu> But I don't understand this of adding free space.
[20:36] <Gnea> well then you're not going to get very far here.
[20:36] <mohawk> lol
[20:36] <mohawk> I just like to get my problems solved
[20:36] <mohawk> ...
[20:36] <Gnea> so your problem is an opinion?
[20:36] <remontees> :D
[20:36] <Gnea> okay, I digress, back to it..
[20:38] <Catbuntu> This is very odd, I don't understand anything.
[20:38] <Nirvash> What's going on?
[20:38] <Catbuntu> How the hell can I move the partition to the top?
[20:38] <remontees> C'est très pair en effet.
[20:38] <Catbuntu> argg that's frustrating
[20:38] <Nirvash> "to the top"?
[20:38] <Catbuntu> Yes
[20:38] <Catbuntu> After sda6
[20:38] <Nirvash> What does that mean?
[20:39] <Nirvash> I mean... what does it matter what order your partitions are in?"
[20:39] <Gnea> Catbuntu: why don't you just read the website? it's even got screenshots and explains everything in explicit detail...
[20:39] <Catbuntu> I already read that Gnea, I can't understand.
[20:39] <remontees> :D
[20:39] <Gnea> Catbuntu: well I can't help you if you don't make an effort to understand.
[20:40] <Catbuntu> I do Gnea.
[20:40] <skp1> Catbuntu: you're dumb.
[20:40] <Catbuntu> It says nothing about moving.
[20:40] <Catbuntu> If a partition has adjacent unallocated space, you can right-click it and select Resize/Move to enlarge the partition into the unallocated space.
[20:40] <Catbuntu> To specify a new partition size, click and drag the sliders or enter an exact number into the boxes.
[20:40] <Catbuntu> I don't want to change its size.
[20:40] <Catbuntu> I want to MOVE it.
[20:41] <bekks> skp1: Stop insulting people please.
[20:41] <bekks> Catbuntu: resizing a partition is NOT adding space before or after.
[20:41] <Catbuntu> bekks, that's what the website says.
[20:41] <Gnea> Catbuntu: okay, in order to MOVE a partition, you need to have FREE SPACE
[20:41] <bekks> Catbuntu: Add UNALLOCATED space before or after the partition. Before doing so, delete unwanted partitions.
[20:41] <Gnea> Catbuntu: UNALLOCATED space == FREE SPACE
[20:42] <Catbuntu> I know.
[20:42] <Gnea> well then load up the liveDVD and gparted and try messing with it
[20:42] <Catbuntu> So I just delete the sda6 and sda8 partitions.
[20:42] <Gnea> it won't do anything until you click apply so you have plenty of wiggle room to see how it works
[20:42] <bekks> Catbuntu: Create a backup of your system before.
[20:43] <Catbuntu> But there're wanted partitions behind the unallocated space in the bottom and the unallocated space in the top.
[20:43] <bekks> Then MOVE them.
[20:43] <Gnea> Catbuntu: is there anything important on them?
[20:43] <Catbuntu> Nope
[20:44] <Catbuntu> Just the /
[20:44] <bekks> Thats the most important thing.
[20:44] <Catbuntu> /home is at the top so it's safe
[20:44] <Gnea> yes, but you want to add to /home
[20:44] <bekks> Without a backup, nothing is safe.
[20:44] <Gnea> so you have to position /home so it's next to unallocated space
[20:44] <Gnea> also, if /home has anything important, BACK IT UP
[20:44] <Catbuntu> Yep
[20:44] <Catbuntu> Well, there's nothing important there I think
[20:45] <Gnea> you should be sure before continuing at this point.
[20:45] <bekks> Catbuntu: / is the most important thing for a linux system.
[20:45] <Catbuntu> bekks, but reinstalling Xubuntu is just a moment.
[20:46] <Catbuntu> oh, gosh
[20:46] <Catbuntu> I think I'll do that tomorrow
[20:46] <Catbuntu> I'll backup some important things today
[20:46]  * Gnea thinks he just saw a flicker of light appear...
[20:46] <Catbuntu> There's no problem by copying things from an ext4 fs to a ntfs and vice-versa, is there?
[20:47] <bekks> Catbuntu: Wrong.
[20:47] <Gnea> not really, except that you'll lost permissions
[20:47] <Catbuntu> oh gosh
[20:47] <Gnea> so
[20:47] <bekks> Catbuntu: POSIX file permissions cannot be copy onto NTFS.
[20:47] <Gnea> create an ISO file, copy the files to the ISO file, then copy the ISO file to the NTFS partition
[20:47] <Gnea> permissions saved, boom
[20:47] <Catbuntu> oh, that's cool
[20:48] <Catbuntu> Can that be done with Xfburner?
[20:49] <bekks> Catbuntu: Create a tarball.
[20:49] <Catbuntu> ok, let's backup
[20:49] <Catbuntu> And why not an ISO?
[20:49] <bekks> Catbuntu: You can even store that tarball on NTFS.
[20:49] <Gnea> tarball or iso work
[20:50] <Catbuntu> I already started the iso, so...
[20:50] <Gnea> doesn't matter, as long as the files are in a storage medium that preserves the permissions
[20:50] <bekks> No need to burn a DVD nowadays when it is possible to store things instead of burning them.
[20:50] <Catbuntu> Thanks for helping, sorry for being so stupid but I never did any serious partitioning tasks.
[20:50] <Catbuntu> bekks, just an ISO, I can mount it then.
[20:51] <Gnea> That's okay, thanks for putting up with our thinning patience :-)
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> Catbuntu  that's not stupid, that's called 'learning'
[20:51] <bekks> Catbuntu: A tarball, you can untar it.
[20:52] <Gnea> Catbuntu: also with a tarball, you can open it with the archiver and drag & drop files out of it on the desktop once it's back up and running
[20:52] <Catbuntu> Oh let's create a tarball then
[20:53] <arooni-mobile> hi folks i think i have ubuntu 12.04; but i would like to upgrade to 12.10.  when i go updates available; i'm seeing: "Not all updates can be installed run a partial upgrade"  ... what should i do
[20:53] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: open a terminal and type the following: lsb_release -r    what does it say?
[20:53] <Hans-Martin> run the partial upgrade, then probably after a reboot you can update the rest
[20:53] <arooni-mobile> Gnea, Release:	12.04
[20:54] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: what Hans-Martin said
[20:54] <Tex_Nick> Catbuntu : lol ... a tarball is probably the most preferable proceedure for what you're trying to do ;)
[20:54] <Catbuntu> And that's what I'm doing
[20:54] <arooni-mobile> thanks folks
[20:55] <arooni-mobile> Gnea, and Hans-Martin ; did partial upgrade then i saw: "
[20:55] <arooni-mobile> It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages."
[20:56] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: just let them upgrade
[20:57] <arooni-mobile> Gnea, but it says error; and it stopped the partial pugrade
[20:57] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: still got that terminal open?
[20:58] <arooni-mobile> yup
[20:58] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: okay, type the following:  sudo apt-get update
[20:59] <arooni-mobile> ok
[20:59] <arooni-mobile> Gnea, another option is to remove the packages that gave an error
[20:59] <arooni-mobile> im going to try that real quick
[20:59] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: wait.
[20:59] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:00] <Gnea> holy botness batman!
[21:02] <remontees> SuperGnea
[21:02] <Gnea> lol
[21:02] <joar> each time I upgrade the kernel on my box, the nvidia driver fails.
[21:02] <tin_nqn> Hi everybody
[21:03] <joar> currently I'm in tty1
[21:03] <Noskcaj> hello tin_nqn
[21:03] <bekks> joar: How did you install the nvidia driver then?
[21:03] <joar> bekks: sudo apt-get install nvidia-updates
[21:03] <Gnea> joar: yes, everytime there's a new kernel, the nvidia driver needs to be recompiled. the system should take care of that for you as long as you installed nvidia from the repository and not from nvidia.com.
[21:04] <bekks> Gnea: Which only applies for major kernel updates.
[21:04] <Gnea> bekks: true.
[21:04] <joar> my current kernel is 3.5.16-21 or something
[21:05] <dencrypt> you can see your current kernel with "uname -r"
[21:05] <jagginess> joar, probably you mean 3.5.0-21
[21:05] <bekks> joar: Check it with uname -a
[21:05] <Gnea> joar: how did you install the nvidia driver the first time? via commandline or via the gui?
[21:05] <tin_nqn> People, I need to grab deb packages for online installation on a Quantal (12.10) amd64 . I'm in a machine with ubuntu 11.10 i386
[21:05] <joar> jagginess: 3.5.0-21, yes
[21:05] <tin_nqn> is it possible?
[21:05] <joar> bekks: ^
[21:05] <bekks> Gnea: Doesnt matter actually. You can use both approaches to install the driver from the repos.
[21:06] <joar> Gnea: I think I've done both on this machine.
[21:06] <joar> Just today, I checked aptitude show and the package nvidia-updates was marked as installed
[21:06] <Gnea> bekks: true, but one might be more thorough than the other, depending on what steps were taken at the cli
[21:06] <tin_nqn> I'll try apt-get with -d option (dowload only) changing my source.list to quantal release
[21:06] <tin_nqn> sudo apt-get install --download-only -a amd64 -o=dir::cache=. --target-release 12.10
[21:06] <bekks> Gnea: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-updates". :)
[21:07] <Gnea> joar: I don't see an nvidia-updates package installed on my system (I have ndivia too)
[21:07] <joar> Gnea: sorry, nvidia-current-updates
[21:07] <joar> it's the slightly more upstream nvidia driver
[21:07] <MicW> hi
[21:07] <Gnea> I have a nvidia-current-updates and a nvidia-settings-updates
[21:08] <MicW> when i install using ebootstrap, how do i select a certain ubuntu release (especially "lubuntu")?
[21:08] <Gnea> joar: okay, well the ones that matter the most will be the glx and kernel packages.  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia   should show you which ones are actually installed
[21:08] <bekks> MicW: Lubuntu is just Ubuntu with LXDE.
[21:08] <joar> When I installed the nvidia-current-updates package however, it told me it would not build the kernel module since the kernel sources were not installed.
[21:09] <Gnea> okay
[21:09] <bekks> joar: Then install the kernel sources.
[21:09] <MicW> i see. so if i only install xorg without any other stuff i'd get a minimal x, right?
[21:09] <joar> bekks: I think I tried.
[21:09] <MicW> i want to create a netboot xmbc client
[21:09] <Gnea> joar: do you have pastebinit installed
[21:09] <jhutchins_wk> tin_nqn: Mixing releases is a great way to get to do a clean reinstall!
[21:10] <joar> I installed linux-headers-3.5.0-21 and then removed (--purge) and installed the nvidia-current-updates package, it said the same thing though.
[21:10] <tin_nqn> jhutchins_wk: I don't want to install anything on this "connected" machine
[21:10] <joar> I guess I have the wrong "kernel source"
[21:10] <joar> as I just installed the headers
[21:10] <joar> IIRC header install, nvidia removal, nvidia install has been the trick the times before.
[21:10] <bekks> joar: Because the headers arent the sources.
[21:10] <tin_nqn> just to download packages for the another, where I'll have very restricted connectivity
[21:10] <jhutchins_wk> tin_nqn: So you're trying to download components for an off-line system?
[21:10] <Gnea> joar: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia | pastebinit    <-- should give u a URL, please paste it here
[21:11] <tin_nqn> jhutchins_wk: true.
[21:11] <jhutchins_wk> !apt-zip
[21:11] <jhutchins_wk> ubottu: apt-zip
[21:11] <jhutchins_wk> ubottu: apt-offline
[21:11] <joar> Gnea: The ID is 1486152
[21:12] <bekks> joar: And the URL?
[21:12] <Gnea> joar: it didn't give a whole url?
[21:12] <bekks> Gnea: It did :)
[21:12] <joar> Gnea: I'm in the console :)
[21:12] <Gnea> joar: so why don't you have gpm installed? :)
[21:12] <bekks> joar: You still can type a single URL, without losing your fingers... :)
[21:12] <joar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1486152/
[21:12] <joar> i think
[21:13] <joar> Gnea: gpm?
[21:13] <Noskcaj> time to feed ubottu
[21:13] <Noskcaj> !botsnack
[21:13] <Gnea> joar: thank you. yes, gpm allows you to use the mouse in the console to copy & paste.
[21:13] <joar> bekks: but you have autocomplete at hand in your browsers! :)
[21:13] <topper4125> !info apt-zip
[21:13] <bekks> joar: OMG.
[21:13] <Gnea> joar: okay, you'll need to have the requisite nvidia kernel source installed for your card.
[21:13] <joar> Gnea: even in the text-only-console, as in no desktop manager at all?
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> topper4125: Thx, my ubotu skills are rusty.
[21:14] <Gnea> joar: for me, that's nvidia-185-kernel-source. it might be different for you.
[21:14] <Gnea> joar: yes.
[21:14] <topper4125> jhutchins_wk: np... happy new year
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> tin_nqn: You might want to check out apt-zip or apt-offline.
[21:15] <bencahill> I've got an old 8.04 server. I want php 5.3. How?
[21:15] <tin_nqn> jhutchins_wk: I'll checked but I couldn't find the way to define the target architecture
[21:15] <MicW> bekks, thanks!
[21:15] <bekks> bencahill: Update to a supported release.
[21:15] <MicW> bye and good night
[21:15] <tin_nqn> *I've checked them
[21:15] <joar> Gnea: I can't find that package.
[21:15] <bencahill> bekks: So this is completely impossible?
[21:15] <bekks> bencahill: 8.04 isnt supported anymore.
[21:15] <joar> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1486161/ (should be a list of packages)
[21:15] <Gnea> joar: then apt-cache search nvidia kernel source
[21:16] <Hans-Martin> bencahill: if updating is not an option compile from source
[21:16] <joar> Gnea: the paste is an aptitude search nvidia
[21:16] <Hans-Martin> bencahill: but updating from 8.04 should not be an option, it should be mandatory :-)
[21:16] <Gnea> joar: okay, please perform the command I requested.
[21:16] <bencahill> Hans-Martin: I read this and thought it might be possible: http://serverfault.com/a/227035
[21:16] <joar> Gnea: returns null
[21:17] <Gnea> joar: what version of ubuntu do u have?
[21:17] <hausmann> i have a laptop, what is wrong if i can see my wifi in windows but not in ubuntu? this happened when i restarted my router a few days ago, cannot see it in ubuntu at all even if i leave the computer on for hours
[21:17] <joar> Gnea: sorry, it didn't. with the keywords in quotes, it did.
[21:17] <nanonyme> Hey, any hopes of getting Grub2 2.00 from quantal to precise-backports?
[21:17] <bencahill> Hans-Martin: Sure. I've got five more days at home, it's my brother's server, and I just want to finish some stuff up. (I discovered that the anonymous function I used in a Yii app I developed on my laptop needed php 5.3, installed is 5.2.4). Life happens. :-(
[21:17] <Gnea> joar: okay, and can you pastebinit that list please?
[21:17] <joar> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1486169/
[21:18] <Hans-Martin> bencahill: ok, sounds like it should work. much easier than compiling...
[21:18] <Gnea> joar: lsb_release -r  <-- result?
[21:18] <joar> Gnea: 12.10
[21:18] <joar> gpm works like a charm, thanks for the tip Gnea :)
[21:18]  * Gnea is now thankful that I have not upgraded to 12.10 yet
[21:18] <Hans-Martin> bencahill: but you should be certain that there's nothing which would be incompatible with a newer php version. been bitten by this once...
[21:19] <markovh> do deb files come with apt sources?
[21:19] <jagginess> markovh, no
[21:19] <jagginess> markovh, .deb files are in apt repositories..
[21:19] <joar> I'll try removing (--purge) nvidia-*
[21:19] <markovh> sure? i'm seeing some sources in my /etc/apt/sources.d after i added a chrome deb
[21:20] <jagginess> markovh, in side .deb files are "dependency" definitions..  apt-get resolves these definitions
[21:20] <Gnea> joar: that probably won't help. which nvidia card do you have?  lspci | grep VGA
[21:20] <joar> Gnea: GTX 560 Ti
[21:20] <jagginess> markovh, apt-cache policy chrome<enter>
[21:21] <markovh> can they depend on packages that require additional sources then? it would make sense as i'm sure google want to keep chrome updated. if it didn't sure the chrome binary is installed non world writeable right?
[21:21] <joar> Gnea: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)
[21:21] <jagginess> markovh, you'll see it's not from the official debian repository.. real debian packages do not do that
[21:22] <markovh> jagginess: so yes they do then?
[21:22] <Gnea> ^.o
[21:22] <Gnea> joar: okay, that should be covered under the 270 driver, which is 185, which is what I use
[21:23] <anonymous_> happy new year from everyone at galliumgroup.net
[21:23] <jagginess> markovh, apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable <enter> would show 500 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages
[21:23] <DJones> anonymous_: No need to keep spamming that link
[21:24] <DJones> anonymous_: Advertising isn't allowed in the channel
[21:24] <remontees> banannée
[21:24] <Gnea> joar: could you please back out of aptitude and pastebinit this list: apt-cache search nvidia
[21:25] <joar> Gnea: I found a blog post via google in links2
[21:25] <remontees> Gnea pig
[21:25] <joar> it seems I just need the linux-headers-___-generic package
[21:25] <Gnea> remontees: oink
[21:25] <DJones> remontees: Do you have an ubuntu support question
[21:25] <Gnea> joar: well that's part of what you need
[21:25] <remontees> oink :D ?
[21:25] <joar> Gnea: which was not installed when I ran apt-get install linux-headers-3.5.0-21
[21:25] <Gnea> joar: you also need the actual kernel source for the *nvidia* driver
[21:25] <joar> for some funny reason.
[21:26] <Gnea> joar: okay, that's probably a good step
[21:26] <remontees> Bonjour FloodBot1 et FloodBot2 !
[21:26] <Apachez> is the 12.04 LTS installer SSD aware when it comes to alignment and such for partitioning during installation?
[21:26] <Catbuntu> Ok, Backup done.
[21:27] <Catbuntu> WIll delete the hoping crap tomorrow.
[21:27] <Catbuntu> Thanks for the support and good night, good morning or good afternoon.
[21:27] <Catbuntu> :)
[21:27] <joar> Gnea: it seems to be building the DKMS module
[21:27] <joar> yes
[21:27] <joar> it is
[21:28] <Gnea> joar: okay
[21:28] <joar> awesome, thank you for your hand-holding through this text adventure, Gnea, bekks :)
[21:28] <Gnea> Catbuntu: happy new year :)
[21:28] <nima_samieinia> joar : do you can switch to mode for nvidia driver installer
[21:28] <iceroot> Apachez: what should be the difference for an SSD and a normal HDD?
[21:28] <nima_samieinia> joar : the driver of repository maybe not drive your module
[21:29] <Gnea> joar: when X comes up, be sure to run something to verify that the 3D driver is working correct
[21:29] <Catbuntu> Happy new year to you too
[21:29] <joar> Gnea: as in GNOME 3?
[21:29] <Gnea> joar: yeah
[21:29] <joar> got that covered :)
[21:29] <Gnea> cool
[21:30] <Apachez> iceroot: gooling on ít gives that alignment will bring you higher performence and lower read/write operations for every block you which to read/write
[21:31] <nima_samieinia> apachez : i dont think so had a problem in installation maybe efi portion of new generation bios build a problem of handle the encrypted partitions
[21:32] <angs> what is the command to search a directory or a file on terminal?
[21:32] <joar> Gnea: and I'm up and running!
[21:32] <iceroot> Apachez: find
[21:32] <joar> Gnea: thanks again :)
[21:32] <iceroot> angs: find
[21:32] <Gnea> angs: well find for the directory and grep for a file
[21:32] <iceroot> Apachez: sorry wrong nick
[21:32] <Gnea> joar: cheers! :D
[21:32] <angs> thank you
[21:33] <iceroot> Apachez: the installer will use the normal ext4 options, you can change them by yourself but it the installer will not make a difference for SSD, USB-Flash, HDD (SATA, SCSI,IDE), SD-Card and so on
[21:33] <Gnea> find . -exec grep something {} \;
[21:34] <Apachez> I was thinking of the alignment stuff described in http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=256068 (among other places)
[21:34] <Apachez> the ext4 options are easy, just add discard,noatime,noadirtime  to the mount flags
[21:35] <iceroot> angs: you dont need grep. find directory -iname *.txt
[21:35] <angs> thank you iceroot
[21:35] <Gnea> iceroot: you need grep to search *within* files.
[21:36] <iceroot> Gnea: and where did he ask for file-content?
[21:36] <iceroot> Gnea: he asked for filenames
[21:36] <Gnea> 15:32 < angs> what is the command to search a directory or a file on terminal?
[21:36] <Gnea> "or a file"
[21:36] <iceroot> Gnea: and to search files containing the string "foo" i dont need find, i just need grep
[21:37] <Gnea> iceroot: precisely.
[21:38] <iceroot> Gnea: and he asked to search for a specific directoryname or filename, so there is no reason to use grep, just find
[21:38] <remontees> Ça en chie du ventilo !
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> there's aso locate
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> also*
[21:38] <MarchHare> Hello. Can anyone help me determine what's going on once and for all? I am trying to install 12.10 on a machine with an Nvidia 8500gt (an older model), and for the past several versions 11.10 and up, nothing seems to work "out of the box" like it's supposed to
[21:39] <Gnea> iceroot: please be sure to double-check how he asked the question. he did use the word 'or'. Therefore, he could have just asked: what is the command to search a file on terminal?   Think about that.
[21:39] <Gnea> angs: is that what you meant?
[21:39] <iceroot> Gnea: as always, the questions here a bad and not detailed :)
[21:40] <iceroot> MarchHare: and what is your question?
[21:40] <Gnea> iceroot: yes, there is a certain level of assumption that's taken. as long as the user was able to accomplish what they wanted to do, that's what's important. :)
[21:40] <iceroot> Gnea: yes :)
[21:41] <MarchHare> iceroot: Well, I can't figure out why the proprietary nvidia drivers won't work correctly. They used to.
[21:41] <iceroot> MarchHare: and "wont work correctly" means what exactly?
[21:42] <MarchHare> iceroot: Incorrect resolutions (not making the proper one available, either), screen scrolls slowly, nvidia utilities don't work correctly and throw exceptions, etc
[21:43] <jhutchins_wk> MarchHare: Does it autodetect or does it use an xorg.conf?
[21:43] <sw_> hi! our /var/log/auth.log is empty on a couple of our servers, has this moved somewhere else?
[21:43] <MarchHare> iceroot: I'd try to give you a better description of what's going on, but I have no clue what's breaking.
[21:44] <MarchHare> iceroot: Well, I think it's autodetecting and not using the xorg.conf
[21:44] <Rajvi> Hi, all
[21:44] <jhutchins_wk> MarchHare: See what you can find in /var/log/Xorg.0.log - sounds to me like the drivers from Nvidia are buggy.
[21:45] <MarchHare> iceroot: It likes to detect my screen at 1920x1080, but that has the scrolling issue. I used to keep it at 1680x1050 to deal with the scroll
[21:45] <jrib> sw_: still working here.  But check the setup in /etc/rsyslog*
[21:46] <jhutchins_wk> MarchHare: I have an intel board that does 1440xwhatever, but it has so much noise and artifacts I scale it back with xrandr.
[21:46] <remontees> pouet
[21:46] <sw_> jrib: all of our installs (should) be exactly the same, and it's working on 90%, but on some of our servers it's empty. I'll take a look, is there a file in particular I should check, or all of the rsyslog* ones?
[21:46] <Rajvi> Got a simple question : Everything fine on my laptop, however when I got to - " About this computer" it shows - Unknow for the graphics  display. Everything fine I am just curious.
[21:47] <jhutchins_wk> sw_: You'll probably want to make sure that more than one user has logged in to the system.
[21:47] <MarchHare> iceroot: There are a few lines towards the end "CRT-0:nvidia-auto-select"
[21:47] <nima_samieinia> i want point of programming for access direct to ext file system anyone exist for communication
[21:48] <MarchHare> iceroot: I did use nvidia-xconfig at one point, though
[21:48] <morfeo_81> hi there
[21:48] <sw_> jhutchins_wk: that could be a problem on some of the servers. but, if I remember correctly that file logs failed logins too?
[21:49] <mustafa> Hi! I would like to install ArgoUML for Linux Xubuntu 12. What commands do I need?
[21:49] <morfeo_81> How can change this? Every time I insert a usb mount the element in this folder /media/morfeo/ and not /media/
[21:49] <morfeo_81> happy new year!!!
[21:50] <jhutchins_wk> sw_: Somewhat dependent on the configuration, but I think it does so by default.
[21:50] <jhutchins_wk> morfeo_81: That is so that you can access it.
[21:51] <jhutchins_wk> morfeo_81: Allows use of the system by more than one user, as in ltsp.
[21:51] <morfeo_81> <jhutchins_wk: ah ok
[21:51] <morfeo_81> <jhutchins_wk: ah ok thanks
[21:52] <mustafa> does somebody knows about ArgoUML?
[21:52] <mustafa> It's a tool for Software design
[21:52] <mustafa> for Software Engineering
[21:52] <Tex_Nick> MarchHare : i don't know if this will help, but you might have a look ... http://tech.sixcolumns.com/2012/11/nvidia-310-19-drivers-released-how-to-install-it-in-ubuntu-12-1012-04/
[21:53] <morfeo_81> Another question.. I want to mount a partition every time after boot automaticaly I change fstab like that /dev/sda5  /media/Data/  ext4 defaults 0 0 but my link at the folder do not work
[21:53] <maujhsn209> I just created a new liveCD! I have administrator privilages amd a password! Why do I get permission denied when trying to open "path/foldername/" in the nautilus  file manager?
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> morfeo_81: Does /media/Data exist?  Does it mount if you issue the command manually?
[21:54] <mustafa> If somebody knows about ArgoUML, please contact me!!
[21:54] <nima_samieinia> mustafa : this is not compiled for ubuntu
[21:54] <dufa> maujhsn209: nautilus does not run as the superuser by default
  yes work but I have problem to acess from nautilus
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> morfeo_81: What are the ownership and permissions?
[21:55] <maujhsn209> dufa Okay so what do I have to type out on the command line?
[21:55] <mustafa> nima_samieinia : what do you mean?
[21:56] <dufa> maujhsn209: first, are you actually trying to get to a file that requires super user privledges?
[21:56] <dufa> maujhsn209: if you are just run gksudo nautilus
[21:56] <maujhsn209> dufa Yes!
[21:57] <channel_> #phphelp
[21:57] <morfeo_81> jhutchins_wk>:can I set this on fstab..
[21:57] <maujhsn209> dufa Thanks!
[21:58] <dufa> no problem
[21:58] <morfeo_81> thanks
[22:09] <Blag> Hello?
[22:09] <dufa> hello
[22:09] <nima_samieinia> blag:hello
[22:09] <Blag> Hello.
[22:09] <William9455> Hi Blag
[22:09] <guntbert> Blag: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:10] <Blag> Is there a way to use Netflix in Ubuntu or lubuntu?
[22:10] <DJones> !netflix | Blag
[22:11] <Blag> guntbert: does this work in lubuntu?
[22:11] <kostkon> Blag, yes
[22:12] <Blag> Ok. Thank you.
[22:12] <rand> I have 12.04LTS installed, I don't like the desktop that comes with it, what do I install to get a regular gnome desktop? Thansk.
[22:13] <guntbert> !nounity | rand
[22:14] <rand> Thanks guntbert
[22:15] <nima_samieinia> ubottu : good stuf showed by you
[22:15] <nima_samieinia> tell  more trick
[22:15] <Tex_Nick> nima_samieinia : http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[22:19] <nosferato> Hi!! help! my mouse is acting wierd, it wont respond to clicks, then it will just minimize and maximize a program with each click
[22:19] <nosferato> its the built in laptop touchpad
[22:19] <tieinv> nima_samieinia, i perfer you ask me questions in the ubuntu main window
[22:20] <Noskcaj> does anyone know what the countdown on the ubuntu website is about?
[22:21] <Apachez> Noskcaj: mayan calendar take 2? ;)
[22:21] <Apachez> err second attempt
[22:21] <nima_samieinia> i want know about kernel and ext handle mechansim for programming to access to them
[22:21] <Noskcaj> Apachez, on ubuntu.com there is a countdown ending later today
[22:22] <jhutchins_wk> nima_samieinia: http://kernel.org
[22:22] <Tex_Nick> nosferato : you may have inadvertantly activated an accessibility feature with some keystrokes ... try hitting your ESC key
[22:22] <issa> hi from spain
[22:23] <nima_samieinia> better refrence module with doc
[22:23] <nima_samieinia> not a kernel document
[22:23] <compdoc> we really dodged a bullet on the Myan thing - you shouldn't kid around
[22:23] <Noskcaj> i think its a touch support update
[22:24] <ryancb06> is it possible in ubuntu 12.04 to move the unity bar to the bottom?
[22:25] <nosferato> Hi my wierd mouse freeze got fixed when I logged out and logged in. can anyone help me to prevent it in the future?
[22:25] <Tex_Nick> nosferato : you may have inadvertantly activated an accessibility feature with some keystrokes ... try hitting your ESC key
[22:25] <jrib> sw_: /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf is the one that mentions /var/log/auth.log here
[22:25] <nosferato> oh I see, thanks Tex_Nick , I ll try that next time when it freezes again
[22:26] <HAPPYnewYR2013> anybody ever have any luck getting bridged networking in win 7 virtualbox using 12.04 for the VM
[22:26] <nima_samieinia> nosferato : your bios have a usb support from 2 functionality one os support two bios support check the bios mode
[22:26] <jrib> sw_: note this is an upgrade so the configuration may have changed (or not :))
[22:26] <nima_samieinia> disable the synaptic pad in bios
[22:26] <Tex_Nick> nosferato : i've done that myself ... hope it helps
[22:26] <nima_samieinia> conflict of two mouse
[22:27] <HAPPYnewYR2013> so
[22:27] <jrib> sw_: and of course you should make sure that rsyslogd is actually running
[22:30] <nima_samieinia> any one recommend syslog server for modem log space
[22:31] <codephobic> hi
[22:37] <pablum> ok, i'm new to ubuntu.  but i used debian for many years...
[22:38] <pablum> i don't like the constraints of the gui...
[22:38] <pablum> but my preferences, i think, don't play well with it.
[22:38] <YouDreamOfJeanie> pablum: so, why did you change?
[22:38] <pablum> because it's on the laptop i'm now using.
[22:39] <topper4125> Changing the DE is very easy to do... which one are you interested in?
[22:39] <YouDreamOfJeanie> you do not have to use the gui you kmow
[22:39] <pablum> basically, i have always used focus follows mouse + lazy focus, and used shortcuts to move from window to window
[22:40] <YouDreamOfJeanie> I use shortcuts to move from window to window all the time - why can you not do that?
[22:40] <pablum> metashitty was pretty good for that...
[22:40] <pablum> i do, but...
[22:40] <YouDreamOfJeanie> you don't have to use unity you know
[22:40] <pablum> for example, how do you use a window that isn't at the top of the stack?
[22:40] <pablum> okay, that's good
[22:41] <k1l_> !notunity | pablum
[22:41] <YouDreamOfJeanie> I actually have assigned ctrl-1..ctrl-4 for my first four windows
[22:42] <pablum> k, thanks for the lead
[22:42] <topper4125> you can also change the way focus works in unity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse
[22:42] <pablum> ooh, before i jump, maybe i'll try that.
[22:42] <YouDreamOfJeanie> k1l_: how do you know what issues are covered in things like notunity that you just did
[22:43] <topper4125> pablum: keep in mind that was just a quick search... I haven't used unity any longer than it took to switch desktops to XFCE.
[22:44] <Tex_Nick> YouDreamOfJeanie : if i understand your question ... http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <k1l_> YouDreamOfJeanie: if i got your question right: look at what Tex_Nick said and just seen that command here in the channel
[22:45] <pablum> well, i feel like i learned a lot.  thanks
[22:46] <YouDreamOfJeanie> k1l_: I do not see "notunity" there for example - so I do not think that is what I am asking
[22:47] <k1l_> YouDreamOfJeanie: try the search on that site.
[22:47] <topper4125> pablum: yer welcome. happy new year
[22:48] <Tex_Nick> YouDreamOfJeanie : top of page ... type "notunity" in search box
[22:48] <YouDreamOfJeanie> pablum: the one thing I would say is - persevere with unity for a little - it is different and so strange but you may get to like it - I did
[22:48] <Apachez> my google-fu is failing me... where can I find a manual entry regarding the "typical usage" option during partitioning when you install ubuntu?   http://workaround.org/sites/default/files/ispmail-lenny-install-partitioning3.png
[22:49] <YouDreamOfJeanie> Tex_Nick: ty - yep - I C it now - so how do you guys remember all that is there - this is so much?
[22:49] <Tex_Nick> YouDreamOfJeanie : i don't ... kll is GOOD though ;)
[22:50] <YouDreamOfJeanie> LOL - ty guys
[22:59] <codephobic> anyone recommend a guide for setting up a mailserver on ubuntu server 12.04 LTS? I'm running it in a VM at present but after testing, I want to run one on my home network.
[22:59] <MoL0ToV_> hi to all! someone can unban my host?
[23:00] <jrib> codephobic: help.ubuntu.com see the server guide
[23:01] <MoL0ToV_> please someone can unban my host?
[23:01] <topper4125> !mailserver
[23:01] <k1l_> MoL0ToV_: #ubuntu-ops is the channel for your request
[23:01] <somsip> MoL0ToV_: try #ubuntu-ops
[23:01] <MoL0ToV_> ok thx
[23:02] <codephobic> thanks
[23:03] <Tex_Nick> MoL0ToV_ : i seem to remember uesterday ... * MoL0ToV (~g@host77-58-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #ubuntu (requested by IdleOne (read the guidelines again))
[23:03] <Tex_Nick> * IdleOne sets ban on *!*@host77-58-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
[23:03] <FloodBot1> Tex_Nick: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <Tex_Nick> ugg ... i knew better ;(
[23:05] <dj_risso> svk???
[23:05] <topper4125> ehh... we're all guilty of that from time to time
[23:06] <asterismo> any ideas what about the banner in the ubuntu webpage?
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> asterismo  we assume it's for android
[23:07] <topper4125> asterismo: second runner up is the ubuntu phone... i have my doubts on new hardware though
[23:08] <dr_willis> i have my doubts on much of anything in this marketing hype->vaporware world. ;)
[23:09] <dr_willis> but im a bit biased after my experiences with AMIGA and Boxeebox. and other letdowns.
[23:09] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:09]  * pablum wants a dirigible frame, climbing ropes, and whimsical but completely useless furniture decorating his room...
[23:10] <topper4125> dr_willis: remember that fan you found yesterday? Here's a vid of it in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoDVhunos6E
[23:10] <kwp13> exit
[23:11] <dr_willis> topper4125:  :) yea i was looking at my pc case.. and relized it was my OLD pc in the garrage that had all the huge-fans for airflow. anoher common thing years ago that seems gone away with better heat management in newer desktops.
[23:11] <dr_willis> Gotta love pc cases that basically are huge fans...
[23:12] <topper4125> and toasters... can't forget toaster drives ;)
[23:12] <dr_willis> Cigirette lighter drive bay covers...
[23:12] <dr_willis> Totally Clear Pc Cases. :) so you can see the Dust.
[23:13] <somsip> dr_willis: zero earthing...
[23:13] <dr_willis> earthing? You mean 'grounding' ? ;)
[23:13] <somsip> dr_willis: at 6am I could mean that, yeah :)
[23:13] <dr_willis> and poor rf shielding.. and kept in the heat. and a pain to work with. ;)
[23:14] <dr_willis> The days of custom case mods seems gone also.
[23:14] <dr_willis> unless you own a raspberryPi.
[23:15] <topper4125> yup nowadays its all about usb: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/8a0f/
[23:15] <jhutchins_wk> Perhaps these musings could migrate over to #ubuntu-offtopic?   They don't seem to have much to do with ubuntu support.
[23:19] <chaospsychex> can someone help me figure out how to change my screen resolution to the maximum that my connected monitor supports ?
[23:19] <chaospsychex> 1024x780 is the highest i can select
[23:19] <chaospsychex> when it should be 1280x1024
[23:21] <topper4125> !resolution
[23:21] <chaospsychex> topper4125: lol, ok then let me rephrase the question...
[23:21] <chaospsychex> could someone tell me why my monitor's EDID is being incorrectly read ?
[23:22] <chaospsychex> topper4125: xrandr -q doesn't even show the resolution i want to use
[23:22] <topper4125> Part 5 of that link might cover that
[23:22] <machinarius> hey guys, anyone here has experience with NodeJS and a LAN? I've setup a small node webserver and i can *only* access it using localhost, whilst a rials server obund on that same port will work with no issues
[23:22] <Tex_Nick> chaospsychex : see what topper4125 posted ... it covers EDID
[23:23] <topper4125> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[23:23] <jhutchins_wk> chaospsychex: Perhaps the driver for your chipset doesnt have the right modes.
[23:23] <chaospsychex> jhutchins_wk: how would i find that out ?
[23:26] <topper4125> chaospsychex: which video card are you using?
[23:27] <topper4125> chaospsychex: and monitor?
[23:27] <jhutchins_wk> chaospsychex: First I would read and try that page from the wiki.  Then you can use lspci to determine your video chipset, and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.org for errors and information.
[23:28] <Tex_Nick> chaospsychex : lshw -c display for display info
[23:29] <ztgu> does this linux project look safe: http://projects.flogisoft.com/asus-keyboard-backlight/    ???
[23:30] <sront> heyho, im running ubuntu 12.10 and my system doesnt give me the choice to install prorietary drivers. running a laptop with onboard geforce graphics and an intel i5 if that might have something to do with it. can somebody help me figure out why/how to fix that?
[23:30] <chaospsychex> topper4125: i managed to get 1280x1024 set and displayed but will I have to do this on every reboot? Are these changes persistent ?
[23:31] <sront> the graphics "card" is a nvidia geforce gt 325M CUDA
[23:31] <chaospsychex> does 12.04 have synaptic by default ?
[23:31] <daftykins> sront: sounds like an optimus laptop?
[23:32] <sront> msi fx-600
[23:32] <topper4125> chaospsychex: Part 6 of that link explains how to make it permanent
[23:32] <daftykins> sront: optimus is the nvidia technology where the laptop uses the intel embedded graphics, but can make use of the nvidia chip if you choose to. that doesn't work under Linux properly
[23:33] <sront> ah
[23:33] <sront> i see
[23:33] <sront> can i like, disable the intel graphics and force it to use the nvidia graphics?
[23:33] <Brunbook> because when I put the windows docky is small?
[23:35] <k1l_> sront: you can look in your bios for an option like that
[23:36] <daftykins> sront: i think installing the nvidia driver *might* force the nvidia one to be used all the time. i'm not sure. it might be worth you googling your laptop and linux to see what it does
[23:36] <daftykins> k1l_: doesn't work like that unfortunately
[23:36] <sront> ok, ty
[23:36] <vjoe> hey guys
[23:36] <sront> first bios, then googling laptop
[23:36] <vjoe> is the software center in sync with apt-get?
[23:37] <k1l_> daftykins: if you dont have a setting in the bios you cant force it driverwise, iirc
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> vjoe  software center is a front end for apt get
[23:39] <vjoe> oh
[23:39] <vjoe> like synaptic
[23:39] <vjoe> ok
[23:39] <vjoe> i haven't used ubuntu in years
[23:40] <FloodBot1> vjoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <vjoe> it has changed loads
[23:40] <chaospsychex> yes it has....
[23:40] <chaospsychex> i miss synaptic
[23:40] <k1l_> you can still install synaptic if you want to use it.
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> chaospsychex  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:41] <Noskcaj> it comes with lubuntu by default
[23:41] <topper4125> !info synaptic
[23:41] <topper4125> still available
[23:41] <vjoe> i quite like unity actually
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> vjoe  i've started liking it, after i installed gnome-panel
[23:42] <vjoe> haha
[23:42] <vjoe> nice
[23:42] <vjoe> I am used to always use the keyboard. So with unity I just hit enter and type the program's name. :P
[23:43] <chaospsychex> MonkeyDust: gnome-panel ?
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> !info gnome-panel
[23:47] <chaospsychex> what happens to unity if i install gnome-panel ?
[23:48] <codephobic> it cries.
[23:48] <chaospsychex> codephobic: lol ?
[23:48] <codephobic> :)
[23:48] <codephobic> sorry, couldn't resist.
[23:48] <k1l_> chaospsychex: it doesnt interfer the unity
[23:48] <topper4125> chaospsychex: You can have as many desktop enviroments installed as you want... after install, log off, and on the login screen you can select your desktop
[23:49] <topper4125> to return to unity, simply log off select unity from selection, and log back in
[23:50] <isasha> Yo geeks
[23:50] <codephobic> are there any guides to teach you to develop widgets/apps for unity? I'm trying to learn c++ and I figured that developing small widgets would be something that might be a realistic goal in a few months time..
[23:50] <isasha> How do I fix a printer to stop 'processing' things and print instead?
[23:50] <isasha> It's driving me nuts :/
[23:51] <topper4125> codephobic: Try here first: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/ubuntu-developer-stack/widgets/
[23:54] <Tex_Nick> isasha : before something can be printed it must be processed ... be more specific with your question
[23:54] <codephobic> thanks topper4125, will have a read of that.
[23:54] <isasha> Well, it gets stuck on processing Tex_Nick
[23:55] <isasha> The first thing I printed, it worked
[23:55] <isasha> but then everything else that I tried, it just got stuck for too long to be normal
[23:59] <topper4125> isasha: don't know if this is going to help or not: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/lprm.1.html#contenttoc1 (odd that the page is (c) 2007-2011 Apple, Inc