[02:55] yofel: yeah, its strange, I cant seem to pinpoint the cause atm [02:55] Ive had it a few times [05:24] moin === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [08:24] anyone about? ktp-text-ui needs rebuilding against the new telepathy-logger [09:08] ScottK: is ktouchpadenabler intentionally empty? === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [10:48] shadeslayer: ynoanswer? [10:49] huh? [10:49] no answer from where? [10:50] Tm_T: ?? [10:50] shadeslayer: steam (: [10:50] ohhh [10:50] I forgot [10:50] :P [10:51] Tm_T: accepted :D [10:51] thank you son [10:52] see, this is me doing paperwork (; [10:52] lol [10:54] my hands are too cold to do anything === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:42] ScottK: what's your progress on kdelibs? As 4.9.5 seems to be out I'll publish it later when I have time, but we'll have to add the kdelibs symbol changes later then [13:30] Hey all [13:48] shadeslayer: It wasn't empty when I made it. [13:48] So no. [13:49] I see [13:50] needs fixing then [13:52] ScottK: one other thing, synaptiks kcm craps out on raring [13:52] however [13:52] if you run synaptiks via konsole [13:53] and click Touchpad Configuration, it works fine [13:54] What error? [13:55] http://paste.kde.org/635588/ [13:55] backtrace : http://paste.kde.org/635594/ [13:56] not particularly helpful I guess [13:56] lemme grab the dbg symbols and I'll get back to you [13:56] OK. [13:57] shadeslayer: Ask JontheEchidna. He's most likely to know I think. [13:57] okie [13:57] JontheEchidna: ^ synaptiks broken, fix it fix it fix it [13:57] yofel: Test building something now. [14:34] hah [14:34] SteveRiley: ScottK https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-metric-system-standard-united-states-instead-imperial-system/FndsKXLh [14:38] can I sign that whithout being an US citizen? ^^ [14:39] lol [14:40] Try creating an account? :P [14:45] Why? [14:45] yofel: What a nice symbols update you just uploaded .... [15:25] ScottK: huh? I didn't upload anything [15:25] yofel: I updated and reuploaded it. [15:26] oh, thank you very much ;) [15:26] I'll update the 4.9.5 package so we can publish that later [15:28] JontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/635672/ [15:30] ScottK: ^ Full backtrace if you're interested [15:31] shadeslayer: I think that's an "ask barry" problem. [15:31] heh okay [15:32] synaptiks does support py3 does it? [15:32] I think I want to poke this a bit before asking him, need to understand what's causing this in the first place [15:32] yofel: I don't think so [15:32] shadeslayer: well, your former backtrace was using python 3.3 libs, so that's probably the issue [15:32] as kpythonpluginfactory in raring is linked against py33 [15:33] if you just run it by hand you'll probably use py2 [15:33] former? the backtrace is the same I think [15:34] http://paste.kde.org/635594/ shows /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpython3.3m.so.1.0 [15:34] your updated trace only shows the source files, not the lib names [15:35] hmm [15:36] this is what I get when I go through systemsettings > input devices > touchpad : http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/635690/ [15:37] same stacktracetop from what I see [15:37] yeah [15:37] yofel: funny thing is, when you run synaptiks ( the binary ) and choose touchpad settings, it works [15:38] probably because it forces python2? [15:38] iirc 'python' is still python2 in raring [15:38] can't check right now [15:38] try running 'python3 synaptiks' [15:38] er, with full path [15:39] pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: synaptiks==0.8.1 [15:39] hum [15:39] I wonder if there's a way to force python2 in the KCM [15:44] no idea. IIRC userconfig has the same problem [15:46] yofel: yeah, looks like a python3 issue [15:46] almost similar stack trace [15:47] with synaptiks AFAIK being unmaintained though this is a larger problem though, maybe we could talk to the dev about having a py3 branch on github [15:47] http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/635708/ [15:47] yofel: from what I read on the github issue tracker, he was looking for new maintainers a year ago [15:47] yeah, it's RFA, but I haven't seen any progress there... [15:49] As a start we would have to first build the module for python3 though, that shouldn't be too much work [15:49] you obviously can't run what doesn't exist [15:49] *nod* === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:01] This was the best New Years Party ever [16:01] Time to get to work then [16:02] shadeslayer: maliit is still on hold for the soname magic but mikhas said it should be doable (getting rid of them) [16:02] oic [16:02] Quintasan: PA3 is on hold till I get a hold of an ExoPC [16:02] probably this weekend I guess [16:03] yep [16:03] What do you need it for exactly? [16:03] shadeslayer: If you want testers then we have ScottK with his Nexus and hopefully SteveRiley [16:03] Quintasan: there are some multi touch patches in kde-workspace that need testing [16:03] Quintasan: no arm builds [16:03] only i386 [16:03] Are there many resulting binary packages? [16:04] We could just build it in ScottK's build farm [16:04] and copypaste stuff [16:04] I didn't count [16:04] Quintasan, it must have been a good party if you slept until now =p [16:04] mikhas: I've been wide awake till 8 in the morning [16:04] Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring [16:04] then I decided to go to bed [16:04] :D [16:05] uh crap [16:05] shadeslayer: looks like a ton of work [16:05] yeah [16:05] shadeslayer: Where are the packaging branches so I can fetch them? [16:05] so +30 hours of partying … sounds wild [16:05] there are none [16:05] I haven't pushed the packaging anywhere [16:06] mikhas: We decied that we ought to start cleaning up the mess [16:06] Right now it's just a bunch of hastily put together packages as of right now [16:06] ... [16:06] shadeslayer: push the packaging branches somewhere so I can work on them [16:07] preferably ~kubuntu-dev [16:07] since it will be part of Kubuntu sooner or later [16:07] will do tomorrow [16:07] mikhas: Currently my work order is something like this [16:07] I just want to get into the warm comfort of my bed right now [16:08] malitt-framework -> maliit-plugins -> pa3 (it is on hold for maliiit) -> active images [16:08] shadeslayer: Sure, going to bed altogether or just a nap? [16:08] the formere [16:08] -e [16:08] night then [16:08] nighters :) [16:09] ScottK: Think you could copypaste resulting debs to your nexus 7 if I do the building? [16:15] Quintasan: if you can get an ssh key of those machines I can give you a repos where you can upload the binaries to [16:18] right, shadeslayer's comment @ lwn mentioned you were blocking on Maliit [16:18] yofel: I wish I could connect first :P [16:18] well, I'll keep the offer open [16:18] mikhas: It's not a dependency block but imagine using that on a tablet without a on-screen keyboard :D [16:22] that's why Bluetooth keyboards were invented ;-) [16:23] Built-in support for BT keyboards came very early in Maliit, though it no longer exists. Imagine why ;-) [16:25] mikhas: Not everyone has one and not everyone carries one around :P [16:25] Showers are the best thing invented since sliced bread [16:26] * Quintasan goes to wash dishes [16:29] mikhas: not just maliit actually, other factors like man power etc as well iirc [16:29] oh [16:30] grrrr [16:30] ScottK: could you rebuild ktp-text-ui ? new tp-logger causes issues [16:30] ScottK: is there an easy way to build a python package for both 2.7 and 3.3 or do I really need to run setup.py by hand for every version that I want? [16:31] or for that matter, anyone with upload rights [16:32] shadeslayer: I can [16:32] cool [16:32] * Quintasan thinks he remembers how to do it [16:33] its just that ktp-text-ui tries to find the old lib, when the so name was bumped [18:22] shadeslayer: uploaded [18:24] tnx [18:25] thx [18:53] lololol [18:54] Quintasan: tp logger qt also needs rebuilding [18:59] FFFF [19:00] check all reverse build deps and rebuild [19:11] Quintasan: maybe hold off on rebuilding? theres a new package that might get syncd [19:11] shadeslayer: libtelepathy-logger-qt4-1 rebuild? [19:12] libktpchat0 kde-telepathy-text-ui are rdepends [19:12] of kde-telepathy-text-ui [19:12] http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/telepathy-logger_0.6.0-2.html [19:12] 0.4.0 in Ubuntu [19:12] no, shouldn't reverse build deps for tp logger be enough? [19:13] but it is in main and I don't think I can do anything about that [19:13] apt-cache rdepends libtelepathy-logger-qt4-1 [19:13] errr .. raring has 0.6.0-1 [19:13] kde-telepathy-text-ui [19:13] libktpchat0 [19:13] use reverse-depends -b [19:14] apt doesn't show stuff at times [19:14] and only check for tp logger, not tp logger qt [19:14] well you said qt needs rebuilding [19:14] :P [19:15] [~]% reverse-depends -b telepathy-logger (quintasan@demonbane:~) [19:15] No reverse dependencies found [19:15] even better [19:15] yes, but do we also need to rebuild everything that deps on tp logger qt? [19:16] wrong package name ? [19:16] Dunno, but I guess that would be the safe approach [19:16] libtelepathy-logger-dev [19:16] libtelepathy-logger2 [19:16] no rdeps as well [19:17] dude ... [19:17] check against the dev package [19:17] lal [19:17] it doesnt do that? [19:18] * cinnamon [19:18] * empathy [19:18] * gnome-shell [19:18] * telepathy-logger-qt [19:18] sounds like fun [19:18] and council hasn't taken a vote on the card afaik [19:18] fun [19:18] I don't think I can touch the first 3 [19:19] question is, do we wait for the package to get kicked from debian new? [19:19] because so version Changed [19:19] If we do then I won't have to do anything (probaby) [19:19] hence package name Changed, etc etc [19:20] I'd wait and see what happens [19:20] idk, ktp text ui is unusable at the moment [19:20] It can't break EVERYTHING and if something happens it should be rather easy to fix [19:20] weird situation [19:21] shadeslayer: if you want to rebuild we would have to go around and ask maintainers of empaty and gnome-shell to make a rebuild right now [19:21] rebuild now* [19:21] ScottK: please advise ^ [19:21] those two are in main and they are not part of our seed so I can't touch then afaik [19:21] dunno where the hell cinnamon is [19:22] !package cinnamon raring [19:22] Quintasan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:22] kubotu: !package cinnamon raring [19:22] !info cinnamon [19:22] Package cinnamon does not exist in quantal [19:22] * Quintasan never knows how to use the damn bot [19:22] desktop env like kde [19:22] !info cinnamon raring [19:22] cinnamon (source: cinnamon): Innovative and comfortable desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.7-1 (raring), package size 471 kB, installed size 1872 kB [19:23] This I can touch after all [19:23] since it's universe [19:23] razorqt made it into raring too, haven't tried it yet [19:23] nice [19:24] Quintasan: I'd have to install Ubuntu on it first. It's still stock Android. [19:24] But I can do that. [19:25] yofel: For now you need to call setup.py in a loop. [19:25] ScottK: Oh, okay. Let me know if that happens. [19:25] ok [19:26] The Kubuntu arm boxen are armhf now, so the binaries can be built there in a raring chroot. [19:26] shadeslayer: Ubuntu doesn't have package maintainers. JFDI. [19:27] ScottK: sure, but there's a package in debian new, when that gets syncd we get to rebuild again [19:28] so the question is , 2 rebuilds or 1 ? [19:28] Builders aren't very busy, so I'd say fixing sooner rather than later is better (i.e. 2) [19:29] very well :) [19:30] ScottK: Any idea why I can't connect to arm box? [19:30] * ScottK checks [19:30] ScottK: I'll take another look at kdelibs 4.9.4 once the arm builds are done. Symbolfiles still aren't quite right [19:31] how does one even get to those arm boxes? I never tried [19:31] Quintasan: I can connect here. [19:31] port 98? [19:31] 100 [19:31] 98 was temporary [19:38] yofel: I think you'll have to hand edit the symbols files, but at least from looking at amd64, it didn't seem too bad. [20:36] ScottK, ping [20:50] Noskcaj: pong [20:50] could you update the kubuntu oem testcase? we might be splitting it from ubuntu oem due to some differences. come over to -quality [20:50] I have the powers. [20:50] If you tell me what to put in it, I'll be glad to. [22:44] shadeslayer: Where do I report kio-mtp bugs? [22:46] My friend can't connect his phone LG-E610 using kio-mtp. It just opens the notification with "mtp:udi=/org/kde/solid/udev/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2/" as conent and nothing happens [22:47] content* [23:33] ScottK: next try up, I confirmed that it's correct on i386 and amd64 at least. The other archs should be fine I think. [23:34] yofel: Can you build it on the armhf box? [23:34] how do I get there? [23:54] ScottK: ? [23:56] yofel: ssh -p 100 arm.kitterman.com [23:57] Riddell: I'm setting up his account now. [23:59] ah hah