[00:00] <slyboots> What the flying..
[00:01] <slyboots> For some reason, when my server reboots.. the RAID5 array I've build as /dev/md0 appears as /dev/md127 and its always stuck in a "PENDING" state, then it moves into "RESYNC"
[00:15] <qman__> yeah, I've had that before
[00:15] <qman__> it was caused by a screwed up disk and some uuid confusion
[00:21] <slyboots> Hmm..
[00:21] <slyboots> I've given them the disk by its ID though
[00:21] <slyboots> Which.. shouldnt change
[00:28] <qman__> your array is probably fine, for me it was just a matter of correcting the problems and getting it to assemble again
[00:28] <qman__> I did it by removing the troublesome disk and manually assembling, then letting it fail over to another
[00:28] <qman__> then fixing the messed up disk
[02:46] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #1095180 in etckeeper (main) "incorrect bash-completion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095180
[02:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #1095181 in etckeeper (main) "terrible breakage on git rebase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095181
[06:11] <neologico> hi people!
[06:12] <neologico> somebody knows about linux drivers installation?
[06:12] <neologico> helpme please
[06:17] <lifeless> ~ask | neologico
[06:17] <lifeless> !ask | neologico
[06:18] <neologico> ok understand
[06:24] <neologico> I can copy a compiled driver: wl.ko in one machine to another and install it?(wl.ko is the driver compiled for wireless card broadcom 43xx)
[06:24] <neologico> ?
[06:27] <lifeless> neologico: for the same kernel version only
[06:28] <lifeless> neologico: best to use dkms to trigger a a compile and install on the other machine a swell
[06:35] <neologico> lifeless:dkms in any application installable ?
[06:36] <lifeless> neologico: its a standard package, if thats what you mena
[06:36] <lifeless> *mean*
[06:38] <neologico> yes understand; even though my language is spanish:)
[06:41] <neologico> I can not even compile the driver after installing backtrack with updated repositories
[06:44] <neologico> well; thanks lifeless in another time i continue this, is too late here.Thanks!!
[06:47] <neologico> bye everybody happy 2013
[07:47] <inflex> hiya all, planning on using U12.04LTS server on a few HP-NAS boxes.  Out of curiosity, is there much trouble in getting it all to fit within 4GB? ( rsync, ssh, and samba are the only services being offered )
[08:55] <vezq> inflex: will fit just fine
[08:57] <inflex> tx.  Planning on using a Sandisk Cruze Fit USB 4GB as the OS/boot.
[08:57] <inflex> (Amazing how tiny those things are)
[13:16] <LuizAngioletti> Hello there! How can a machine be resolving names if it's resolv.conf is blank?
[13:17] <LuizAngioletti> I do have a dns server running, but does it affect my external name resolution?
[14:22] <RobCWDudley>  LuizAngioletti: DNS can be passed in via DHCP iirc and Network config handles DNS from outisde of resolv.conf
[15:03] <hallyn> ahs3: hey, new netcf release is out :)  prevents segfault in use by threaded app iiuc.  i assume now is still a bad time for debian upload/
[15:09] <hallyn> zul: good morning!  could I pursuade you to sync netcf from debian-experimental into raring?
[15:10] <zul> hallyn: i could be persuased
[15:23] <hallyn> zul: looking at bug 591489.  i don't get it.  vnc doesn't fwd audio, so why would this bug matter?  (hoping you understand :)
[15:23] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 591489 in libvirt "No sound in virt-manager (QEMU_AUDIO_DRV set to none by libvirtd)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591489
[15:24] <ahs3> hallyn: hrm.  good question; i'll check on the freeze, but yeah, i suspect it may be "hurry up and wait" a bit
[15:26] <zul> hallyn: cant tell you but its in lucid have you tried something a bit newer?
[15:27] <zul> hallyn: ill put the 1.0.1 up for you somewhere this week btw (with the lxc attach stuff backported)
[15:38] <hallyn> zul: i havne't tried any, no :)
[15:40] <hallyn> zul: IIUC, they're saying they want to start a VM with virt-manager, and have the qemu guest use the host's sound card even though they're using vnc
[15:40] <hallyn> so if they were doing vnc remotely, the server would be playing sound
[15:40] <zul> right it wouldnt
[15:40] <hallyn> i see yeah that's what they want  (comment #8)
[15:41] <bieb> I installed 12.04 server before the holidays.. everything was working fine, I have a static IP and downloaded software and updates.. today I am not able to get to any sites I tried apt-get update and it fails with "unknown host", same error if I try to ping anything. I have looked at /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original and the correct DNS servers are in there.. any ideas where to look next?
[15:42] <hallyn> zul: tempted to set it to wontfix rather than ignoring it...
[15:42] <hallyn> but i guess i won't
[15:42] <zul> i would
[15:42] <zul> but i would also get them to test something newer
[15:43] <zul> since they are like an lts behind
[15:46] <hallyn> zul: the proposed fix reuires running the vm as the logged-in user (to connect to the pulseaudio session) so i doubt i'ts "fixed"
[15:46] <hallyn> (where "fixed" == broken imo, but...)
[15:47] <hallyn> so i don't really want to ask - seems like a waste of time
[15:47] <zul> it does....besides its not a fix that we would SRU imho either
[16:34] <davmor2> hey guys on precise server I just ran sudo apt-get update and got this error any ideas? W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[16:36] <melmoth> davmor2, you need to import a public key.
[16:36] <melmoth> wich key.. i m not sure
[16:37] <davmor2> melmoth: it's the archive repo key and seems to be in place
[16:38] <melmoth> http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[16:40] <davmor2> melmoth: many thanks
[16:48] <sw0rdfish> whats the 6euro a month vps provider's website again?
[16:51] <RoyK> sw0rdfish: you asked yesterday, and I even did some googling for you
[16:52] <slank> I notice that the default conf for rsyslog specifies $FileGroup adm, but then $PrivDropToGroup syslog. The latter appears to negate the former - I'm seeing new files created as syslog:syslog.
[16:52] <sw0rdfish> errr
[16:52] <sw0rdfish> sorry RoyK..... plz highlight me next time, and I found what you said, thanks man
[16:53] <sw0rdfish> damn man how did you that... that is a nice search technique ;)
[16:53] <RoyK> sw0rdfish: I guess I to prefix with your nick...
[16:53]  * RoyK knows search engines :)
[16:54] <sw0rdfish> hehe
[17:02] <hallyn> zul: not sure you care to follow my process on this :)  but in case you do, i've pushed my changes to the debian qemu tree to github.com/hallyn/qemu.  i'm going to now push that (based on 1.2 from end of october, i.e. what is in ppa:serge-hallyn/crossc) to raring, then i will merge in the new 1.3.0 qemu from debian's git tree (which hasn't been tested)
[17:02] <hallyn> though i see it's in debian-experimental
[17:02] <zul> hallyn: okie dokie
[17:02] <hallyn> so, seems impossible that *something* would not go wrong with the 1.2.0 qemu push,
[17:02] <hallyn> which will remove qemu-kvm and qemu-linaro source packages
[17:03] <hallyn> oh wait.  what am i thinking
[17:03] <hallyn> clearly i won't have rights for this
[17:03] <RoyK> hallyn: famous last words...
[17:03] <hallyn> RoyK: i'm not happy about it :)  but it's gotta be done...
[17:04] <jtd> hi guys.
[17:04] <jtd> so, I have Ubuntu Quantal authing to AD for logins and it seems to be working well. I created /home/DOMAIN for domain accounts to have their home directories created, but instead of creating home directories it's just complaining they don't have one and putting them in /. How do I get it to create their homedir on login if it doesn't exist?
[17:04] <hallyn> zul: so actually i think i'll have to (a) ask someone (you?) to push the source from my ppa, and (b) ask for the new src pkg to be added to ubuntu-server group
[17:04] <zul> hallyn: most likely :)
[17:04] <zul> hallyn: or anyone else on the team
[17:06] <hallyn> zul: you'd prefer someone else?
[17:06] <zul> hallyn: nah but if you can spread the love that would be cool
[17:09] <hallyn> zul: since i expect problems with this one, i'd (sorry :) rather have you do this, and ask roaksoax to do the netcf sync
[17:11] <zul> hallyn: sure
[17:11] <hallyn> zul: thanks!  so after you push, i'll ask on #ubuntu-devel to have qemu added to server set
[17:11] <hallyn> roaksoax: ping (when you're around) :)
[17:13] <roaksoax> hallyn: here
[17:15] <hallyn> roaksoax: could you sync netcf from debian-experimental into raring?
[17:15] <roaksoax> hallyn:  sure :)
[17:17] <hallyn> roaksoax: thanks.
[17:17] <hallyn> (honestly i need to package 0.2.3 too, but i prefer to go through debian first for all netcf now)
[17:17] <hallyn> (and that potentially awaits freeze)
[17:20] <sw0rdfish> w00t! my american alienvps is doing ok for paltalk usage!
[17:20] <sw0rdfish> I'm soo happy
[17:20] <sw0rdfish> in that case I don't need a european one :D
[17:23] <roaksoax> hallyn: yeah I agree,  but if we are close to freeze and it is not in debian yet, then I would suggest to package it
[17:23] <hallyn> roaksoax: we're not close to freeze just yet right?
[17:24] <roaksoax> hallyn: nope
[17:24] <roaksoax> we still have time :)
[17:24] <hallyn> do you remember off hadn when ff is?
[17:25] <roaksoax> hallyn: March 7th is FF
[17:25] <roaksoax> hallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[17:26] <hallyn> thx just foudn it :)
[17:26] <hallyn> ok so i'll put this down in my feb tickler file to package it for sure
[17:28] <roaksoax> hallyn: yeah, another thing you could do to help Debian, is package it yourself, ping the maintainer to try to get the new prepared in (specially of there are packaging changes)
[17:28] <hallyn> roaksoax: no no, i'm the maintainer :)
[17:28] <hallyn> roaksoax: i just want to wait until i'm sure wheezy is not in freeze
[17:28] <roaksoax> hallyn: yeah just noticed :)
[17:29] <hallyn> roaksoax: thanks again.  (going to step away now for a few mins)
[17:29] <roaksoax> hallyn: syncpackage: Request succeeded; you should get an e-mail once it is processed.
[19:09] <daguz> I'm trying to install quantal under xen(suse) . Last time I followed these directions for natty ( http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/05/ubuntu-natty-narwhal-and-xen/) and it worked fine.  Now I cannot seem to get it to go with the latest version.  After install, I get "boot loader didn't return any data"
[20:12] <Daviey> adam_g: Hey, are you able to fix up the CA report to present for grizzly aswell?
[20:14] <adam_g> Daviey: yeah, *should* be able to just add a new set of cronjobs to pull grizzly/raring instead of folsom/quantal. ill confirm in a bit and let you know what to add
[20:19] <smw_> "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces" What should I do then?
[20:20] <RoyK> restart networking?
[20:22] <smw_> RoyK, when I rand networking restart. it gave that warning
[20:22] <smw_> so if one way is deprecated, another should be used instead, right?
[20:22] <smw_> anyways, I am running into other issues :-\
[20:23] <RoyK> did you try that command I just gave you?
[20:24] <smw_> oh, that is a command XD
[20:24] <smw_> nope
[20:24] <smw_> doesn't appear to be an upstart job
[20:24] <smw_> http://fpaste.org/M2vw/ I added eth1:1 to my /etc/network/interfaces and then did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:25] <RoyK> root@bcache:~# restart networking
[20:25] <RoyK> networking start/running
[20:26] <RoyK> that's on quantal, though
[20:26] <smw_> I am on precise
[20:26] <smw_> works for me too
[20:26] <RoyK> dunno - I have no VM on precise, and wouldn't like to test on a box in roduction ;)
[20:27] <RoyK> *production*
[20:27] <smw_> RoyK, this is odd
[20:27] <smw_> RoyK, http://fpaste.org/SGCd/
[20:39] <LuizAngioletti> ;quit
[20:41] <adam_g> Daviey: yeah, the currentl script in lp:ubuntu-reports should work the same way. './gather-versions.py grizzly && ./ca-versions.py -r grizzly' should dump a ca_versions_grizzly.html
[20:43] <Daviey> adam_g: Ah, i thought you might try and put it on the same output file.. but yeah, ok, that makes sense
[20:43] <Daviey> Thanks
[20:47] <adam_g> Daviey: oh, ya i could do that i suppose.
[20:47]  * hallyn looks for utlemming
[20:48] <hallyn> oh well
[20:55] <Daviey> adam_g: hmm, unless you think it is easy.. don't stress about it.. two pages is fine.
[21:12] <ribo> so, I used to be able to install 32bit packages like so: apt-get install libx11-6:i386 in server 12.04, no longer, it seems for 12.10
[21:12] <ribo> are i386 packages still avilable?
[21:13] <patdk-lap> yes
[21:14] <ribo> is package:i386 no longer the way to do it?
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> last i checked that's still how to do it
[21:21] <TheLordOfTime> unless there's a bug in apt/apt-get which i missed during my rounds of watching the bug announce channel
[21:21] <ribo>  sudo apt-get install libx11-6:i386 .... E: Unable to locate package libx11-6
[21:24]  * TheLordOfTime pulls up a quantal VM
[21:25] <ribo> (I am using the canonical EC2 image)
[21:25] <TheLordOfTime> and which mirror is it pulling from :P
[21:26] <ribo> us-west-2
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> bleh my VM segv'd.
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> REINSTALLAITON TIME
[21:26] <ribo> hehe
[21:28] <ribo> might have figured it out
[21:29] <ribo> yep
[21:29] <ribo> dpkg --add-architecture i386
[21:29] <ribo> apparently that used to be default in 12.04 amd64 server
[21:29] <ribo> and it no longer is
[21:32] <ribo> woo success
[22:35] <mkander> What is the best bare-metal backup strategy for an ubuntu server?
[22:36] <patdk-lap> veeam? acronis? backupexec?
[22:40] <mkander> checking them out now
[22:40] <mkander> both acronis and backupexec seems to do what I want
[22:40] <patdk-lap> or did you mean free backup software?
[22:41] <mkander> It doesnt have to be free if it works
[22:41] <patdk-lap> I played with backupexec, but never put it into production
[22:41] <patdk-lap> I mainly use veeam and acronis
[22:41] <patdk-lap> only two free ones I know of, and I haven't digged deep into either
[22:42] <patdk-lap> bacula, and hmm, someting that starts with an a
[22:42] <mkander> Seem like you have to boot from a CD
[22:42] <patdk-lap> you always have to
[22:42] <patdk-lap> to do a baremetal restore
[22:42] <sarnold> coworkers use rsnapshot, suggested looking into e.g. horcrux for scripting around rsnapshot
[22:42] <sarnold> but that isn't a back-to-working sort of tool, more of a "keep my data backed up" sort of tool
[22:43] <patdk-lap> ya, I do multible types of backups
[22:43] <patdk-lap> including rsync, backuppc, and baremetal
[22:43] <patdk-lap> all depending on how paranoid, and whattype of recovery I want
[22:43] <mkander> I looked into clonezilla
[22:43] <mkander> that also required a boot
[22:44] <patdk-lap> also, nice, to know if some backup method fails, the others will likely still be working
[22:44] <patdk-lap> acronis installs onto ubuntu, it shouldn't need reboots at all to backup
[22:45] <mkander> Hmm interesting
[22:45] <patdk-lap> other thing you could do
[22:45] <patdk-lap> use lvm
[22:45] <patdk-lap> create snapshot
[22:45] <patdk-lap> backup snapshot
[22:45] <patdk-lap> release snapshot
[22:45] <patdk-lap> but now your basically building your own backup solution
[22:45] <patdk-lap> all depends what you want
[22:46] <mkander> I think I use lvm now.. =P I am not that pro with this
[22:46] <patdk-lap> I'm all virtualized, so I just use veeam to backup everything
[22:46] <mkander> Lvm really makes the snapshot consistent? I have a database running as well
[22:46] <adam_g> hallyn: ping
[22:46] <patdk-lap> it makes a *consistant* disk snapshot
[22:47] <mkander> okey
[22:47] <patdk-lap> flusing your applications to disk is a different story, and all backup solutions will have that issue
[22:47] <patdk-lap> that is why microsoft created the vss stuff, so databases and things just plug their own vss driver in, and when someone requests that, they all flush
[22:48] <patdk-lap> though really, I would not depend on that for a database backup
[22:48] <patdk-lap> while it is nice, I would defently also backup the db's seperately, using just a db specific thing
[22:48] <hallyn> adam_g: what's up?
[22:48] <patdk-lap> it's more likely for your db to have issues, or get corrupted from user error or something
[22:48] <patdk-lap> and easier to restore that way also
[22:48] <mkander> Ok, so the db is most prone to these kind of problems
[22:49] <patdk-lap> well, the more you use sometihng, the more prone it is to issues
[22:49] <mkander> the rest of the os would backup fine
[22:49] <sarnold> patdk-lap: too true.
[22:49] <mkander> okey
[22:49] <patdk-lap> likely, doing weekly backups baremetal, and daily backups of the db would be good
[22:50] <patdk-lap> but all depends on what it is you need, and what goals you want
[22:50] <adam_g> hallyn: slowly making my way thru comments in bug #1057024 but, testing some openstack updates in quantal-proposed and running into a permissions issue on /dev/kvm  with the qemu-kvm version thats in quantal-proposed. what is responsible for setting group ownership of /dev/kvm with the newer package?
[22:50] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 1057024 in qemu-kvm "kvm kernel module always loaded, without setting /dev/kvm permissions" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057024
[22:50] <mkander> Goal #1: Not having to reboot the server once a week and carry a monitor into the basement :P
[22:50] <patdk-lap> like my db servers, nothing changes on them, so just doing database backups is enough, as long as I have one baremetal, or I could just easily rebuild it quickly enough
[22:51] <mkander> maybe there is a way to automate a boot-backup solution?
[22:51] <patdk-lap> mkander, likely, doing a baremetal backup once every 3 months might be enough
[22:51] <patdk-lap> and backing up /home /var/lib /etc daily
[22:52] <patdk-lap> well, if websites and mail on it, /var/www and /var/mail also maybe
[22:52] <hallyn> zul: if you're pushing a libvirt soon-ish, there's a trivial buglet in bug 1095140
[22:52] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 1095140 in libvirt "documentation flaw "libvirt", rather than "libvirtd" group" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095140
[22:52] <mkander> Yeah agree, but I want everything automated
[22:52] <mkander> maybe I could get clonezilla to do it automated
[22:52] <patdk-lap> well, you could automate all that easily, except for the baremetal backups
[22:52] <hallyn> adam_g: /dev/kvm perms are supposed to be fixed by the end of qemu-kvm.postinst
[22:53] <hallyn> by the call to udevadm
[22:53] <hallyn> adam_g: i thought i'd verified that one already fwiw
[22:54] <adam_g> hallyn: hmm. im installing nova-compute, which pulls in qemu-kvm and i end up with root:root. ill keep poking
[22:54] <mkander> Seems like Clonezilla is an open source program that creates complete disk backups. Looks like some people have managed to automate the process as well.
[22:54] <hallyn> adam_g: hm
[22:55] <hallyn> adam_g: oh wait!  yes there is (we believe) a bug in udev
[22:55] <hallyn> lemme see where i filed it
[22:56] <hallyn> adam_g: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/1092715  lemme ping slangasek in -devel
[22:56] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 1092715 in udev "udevadm trigger --action=change not working since quantal?" [Undecided,New]
[22:57] <adam_g> hallyn:  yippie, thanks!
[22:59] <adam_g> hallyn: so is it unlikely the qemu-kvm update will be moving to -updates anytime soon?
[22:59] <hallyn> not sure
[23:00] <hallyn> in precise it should be :)
[23:00] <hallyn> maybe i should spend tomorrow looking into the udev bug
[23:01] <adam_g> hallyn: im concerned with quantal ATM. testing these nova SRUs assumes qemu-kvm works as expected. :\ i suppose i can work around the issue by manually setting permissions on /dev/kvm during deployment but i'd consider it a regression in the qemu-kvm in quantal-proposed, no?
[23:02] <hallyn> adam_g: no, bc as slangasek points out that never worked right in quantal, so it's not a regression
[23:03] <hallyn> adam_g: symptom is slightly different of course - before it would mark it the right group, but it wouldn't give group rw perms
[23:06] <hallyn> adam_g: i'm sneaking away - ttyl
[23:06] <adam_g> hallyn: well
[23:07] <adam_g> hallyn: 1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2 gives me correct crw-rw---- 1 root kvm 10, 232 Jan  2 17:08 /dev/kvm
[23:08] <hallyn> adam_g: getfacl /dev/kvm
[23:09] <hallyn> (gotta run, bbl)
[23:09] <adam_g> cya
[23:32] <jeeves_moss> how do I setup a proper bidirectional replication FROM a windows DNS server TO a bind server?
[23:33] <sarnold> bidirectional? I thought the whole point of dns replication was master / slave
[23:34] <jeeves_moss> sarnold, ideally, however, the BIND server will need to do updates to the Windows enviroment.
[23:35] <jeeves_moss> sarnold, Idealy, the BIND server will be the slave
[23:36] <sarnold> jeeves_moss: slave-only ought to be easy, configure the axfr access controls on your windows server to let your bind zone transfer, and set up the bind system to do zone transfers..
[23:36] <sarnold> jeeves_moss: .. but getting that bind to update the windows dns, well, that just doesn't seem 'normal' to me.
[23:38] <jeeves_moss> sarnold, right now, I need to setup the BIND server to be a slave, and pull all newly created domains, etc FROM the windows servers.  there is a technet howto posted by microsoft that's a step by step, but I can't find it