[00:00] <isasha> topper4125: well I can cancel them, but that doesn't change anything
[00:00] <isasha> now I'm just using a fresh vm instead
[00:01] <daftykins> looked at the CUPS pages?
[00:01] <topper4125> isasha: k.. thought maybe your spool was getting overflowed... might be a VM thing
[00:01] <isasha> the first time I used a netbook though
[00:02] <isasha> now i'm VMing it within virtual box on my proper laptop
[00:02] <topper4125> isasha: about the only thing I have left of offer is this:
[00:02] <topper4125> !cups
[00:04] <DarkAir> How can I install a driver from the terminal for a Broadcom BCM4328?
[00:04] <topper4125> !bcm43xx
[00:04] <Lady_Aleena> Does Ubuntu come with a driver for an ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Low Profile?
[00:05] <topper4125> !ati
[00:09] <arooni-mobile> trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 but now i see "Preparing the upgrade failed Preparing the system for the upgrade failed so a bug reporting process is being started."  what tdo i do now
[00:11] <Lady_Aleena> topper4125, it's what I have. ubottu, so the open source drivers should work with my video/audio card?
[00:11] <Ben64> arooni-mobile: you know you could keep 12.04 for about 4 more years?
[00:12] <arooni-mobile> Ben64, it looks like i cant upgrade it anyway
[00:12] <arooni-mobile> so i might have to keep it
[00:12] <Ben64> you could upgrade if you want
[00:13] <arooni-mobile> see earlier message
[00:13] <arooni-mobile> i failed jaja
[00:13] <DarkAir> Can anyone help me? I need to install a Broadcom driver on 12.04.1 64-bit but have the file on the HD. No internet access
[00:14] <crazybrain> I am getting an error whenever I try to install anything
[00:14] <crazybrain> ashok is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[00:15] <Lady_Aleena> Also, is an IRC program included with a Ubuntu installation?
[00:15] <topper4125> Lady_Aleena: fond a forum post from 2009 from a person that got it working... so it should work today.
[00:16] <machicola> anyone know a good freenode channel to discuss pc hardware? i.e. processors, memory, design & architecture etc.
[00:16] <topper4125> Lady_Aleena: IRC software is no longer installed by default
[00:17] <Lady_Aleena> How about a browser?
[00:17] <topper4125> firefox as default
[00:17] <angel56> topper4125: don't they install pidgin by default still? It does IRC
[00:18] <Lady_Aleena> Recommended IRC program to download when I install Ubuntu?
[00:18] <topper4125> Pidgin was replaced with empathy (or something like that... I just reinstall pidgin)
[00:18] <topper4125> xchat is a good irc program
[00:18] <k1l_> angel56: Lady_Aleena  empathy is default, which can irc
[00:18] <k1l_> !irc | Lady_Aleena
[00:19] <agent> I tried empathy before this xchat.
[00:20] <agent> empathy wasn't as pretty
[00:22] <Lady_Aleena> How plug-and-play is Ubuntu?
[00:23] <daftykins> Lady_Aleena: what would you plan to plug in?
[00:23] <dr_willis> totally plug and play for my hardware
[00:24] <dr_willis> but i researched what to buy ;)
[00:24] <daftykins> Lady_Aleena: the main thing is to check compatibility before buying. and don't trust salesmen in shops either
[00:24] <illovae> that's true
[00:24] <topper4125> Lady_Aleena: never had a problem with mice, keyboards, HP Printers, Acer monitors, Joysticks, my 3 GPS units (from Rand Mcnally, Garmin, and Cobra)...
[00:24] <daftykins> "oh look it says Linux 2.6 on the box, that'll guarantee it!"
[00:25] <Lady_Aleena> I don't remember the manufacturer of my hard and floppy drives or the specifics about them. My monitor is a Dell. I have a lot of USB ports.
[00:25] <daftykins> you can pretty much guarantee internal component compatibility
[00:26] <topper4125> hard drives *should* be 100% compatible, Floppies.. not so sure... monitor... yes... the only USB problem I ever had was with a M$ USB hub.
[00:26] <illovae> Lady_Aleena: sounds good, what is you graphic card?
[00:26] <illovae> topper4125: floppies? no problem
[00:26] <illovae> s/you/your/
[00:26] <dr_willis> some of those 'green' hard driveds were quirky . but i think thats been fixed now
[00:26] <Lady_Aleena> illovae, video and audio are all on the ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Low Profile, I think.
[00:27] <dr_willis> all in wonder? how old is that?
[00:27] <MoL0ToV> what pc is? what cpu and chipset?
[00:27] <MoL0ToV> a pentium4?
[00:27] <Lady_Aleena> dr_willis, it is a really old computer (2003).
[00:27] <daftykins> i would highly doubt all the functionality of an all-in-wonder card will work under Linux
[00:27] <dr_willis> all in wonders were a Major pain even in windows years ago
[00:28] <daftykins> e.g. TV input, video capture, etc.
[00:28] <MoL0ToV> yes.. but today is all digital.. so a all in wonder is not needed...
[00:28] <illovae> I recall that TV tuner functions work on ubuntu...
[00:29] <dr_willis> if you can find a analog signal to tune. ;)
[00:29] <Lady_Aleena> I may have a Creative card in the computer too, but I haven't found it on my devices list yet.
[00:29]  * daftykins cracks out the VHS player
[00:29] <MoL0ToV> here in italy in 2003 we use analog tv tuner, but from some years DVB is used also for tv.. so...
[00:29] <k1l_> !hcl | Lady_Aleena you can lookup you specific hardware
[00:29] <Lady_Aleena> I'm not worried about the TV tuing.
[00:29] <illovae> dr_willis: huh true
[00:29] <Lady_Aleena> ACK! tuning
[00:30] <MoL0ToV> Lady_Aleena, you have some ram memory? at least 1 gig is needed today to work..
[00:30] <Lady_Aleena> I have 1 GB of memory, maybe more which Windows isn't seeing.
[00:31] <topper4125> hmmm... wonder if the mythbuntu people have had better luck/worked harder with All in Wonder if it has tv tuner on it
[00:31] <dr_willis> topper4125:  last i used an AIW,,.. they wer almost useless ;)
[00:32] <dr_willis> i dont even recall the svideo out working
[00:32] <dr_willis> best answer.. put ubuntu on it and see what explodes. ;)
[00:33] <dr_willis> or lubuntu may work better
[00:38] <ugb> server
[00:40] <topper4125> looks like the mythbuntu people try to avoid it, and if *they* avoid a tv tuner... there's a darn good reason for it.
[00:43] <jacklk> This is fairly basic, but when I try and install nginx I get this error: E: Package 'nginx' has no installation candidate Shouldn't nginx be in the main repo, and how can I have "access" to download it? dpkg is fully up to date.
[00:44] <k1l_> !info nginx
[00:45] <jacklk> ...
[00:45] <jacklk> dpkg wont recognise it.
[00:45] <jacklk> It installs other packages fine.
[00:45] <k1l_> jacklk: which ubuntu do you have exactly?
[00:46] <jacklk> k1l_: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my VPS.
[00:47] <k1l_> jacklk: is universe enabled?
[00:47] <who0ami> is any free VPS?lol
[00:47] <Lady_Aleena> Is there a page somewhere which lists all of the software Ubuntu 12.10 will install so I know what I need to search for?
[00:48] <k1l_> jacklk: sometimes the hosters fiddle at the sources themselves. so maybe you need to ask their support
[00:48] <jacklk> k1l_: Right, thank you for you help anyway.
[00:48] <MoL0ToV> Lady_Aleena, you can search trough synaptic package manager
[00:49] <k1l_> Lady_Aleena: packages.ubuntu.com
[00:50] <Muphrid> Lady_Aleena: You mean this http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ubuntu-desktop ?
[00:50] <Muphrid> no
[00:53] <Lady_Aleena> I don't see what perl gets installed? Is it Strawberry?
[00:53] <Jisawesome2> Can someone help me install  wireless card drivers?
[00:53] <Jisawesome2> Can someone help me install  wireless card drivers?
[00:53] <dr_willis> Jisawesome2:  tell us the chipset  for starters
[00:54] <dr_willis> !wireless
[00:56] <Tex_Nick> Lady_Aleena : Strawberry Perl is for the windows platform
[00:56] <William9455> Hello, I just tried to install for the 3rd time my AMD Radeon HD 5450 Graphic drivers from amd.  I have lost my desktop in unity, got one in gnome and am getting this error"cd /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.982/build; sh make.sh --nohints --uname_r=3.5.0-21-generic --norootcheck....(bad exit status: 1)
[00:56] <William9455> [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.982 with DKMS
[00:56] <William9455> [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.982 from DKMS"
[00:57] <William9455> I tried to uninstll my unity desktop and reinstall did not work
[00:57] <Kardos> i have an empty directory called /selinux , is it needed or can i delete it?
[00:57] <William9455> This is the error message, i am running ubuntu 12.10 12 gig of ram ICORE 5 3.10 GHZ processor
[00:57] <Kardos> (i didnt create it, ubuntu did, somehow)
[00:58] <Jisawesome2> kardos, is it really imperitive that you delete it?
[00:58] <user82> William9455, is the package "linux-headers-generic" installed?
[00:58] <Kardos> no, but leaving a mess around isn't generally a good idea
[00:59] <Jisawesome2> Where was the folder created
[00:59] <Kardos> in /
[00:59] <Kardos> owned by root:root
[00:59] <topper4125> I think its created during install... I see it on all my USB sticks, CD's, etc....
[01:00] <Jisawesome2> Well, I have no idea
[01:00] <Jisawesome2> I dont have it
[01:00] <Jisawesome2> What version are you using
[01:00] <Kardos> 12.04
[01:00] <topper4125> Cleanup should have got rid of it
[01:00] <Kardos> hmm ok
[01:00] <Kardos> then i shall rm it
[01:00] <Kardos> also
[01:00] <Jisawesome2> Worst case, you will have to add it back
[01:00] <Kardos> the dir /ubiquity-apt-clone has a few things in it, can i clear that too?
[01:01] <William9455> No worst case is you lose all ability to operate in unbuntu, like rmove all icons and start bar launcher
[01:01] <topper4125> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libselinux/+bug/352193
[01:01] <Kardos> William9455, as long as i can shell back in...
[01:01] <William9455> Yep couldnt do that either
[01:02] <serverplatypus> I'm planning on getting an Intel wireless 5100 mini-pci card on ebay. Since the one I got  from Broadcom has  flaky performance .
[01:02] <serverplatypus> Is there a big chance the card from ebay might be a clone and not be able to functioncorrectly  with the iwlagn module?
[01:02] <Jisawesome2> Can someone diagnose this problem I have with my wireless card?
[01:03] <Jisawesome2> It locates the network, and supposedly connects, but when I try to access the internet, it loads for a second, then disconnects from the network
[01:03] <Jisawesome2> by 'loads' I mean it tries to
[01:03] <Jisawesome2> It doesnt actually bring up the page
[01:04] <serverplatypus> Jisawesome2: which card is it? What does it say when you run dmesg from a terminal
[01:04] <Jisawesome2> Its the rosewill rnx-150pc
[01:04] <Jisawesome2> And I will check on the terminal
[01:05] <William9455> Any ideas why AMD Radeon HD 5450 would fail and cause system to log in but not show anything on desktop?
[01:05] <William9455> I have the log bu dont really want to blast the rom
[01:06] <William9455> room
[01:06] <user82> William9455, the log you posted pretty much reviels that it could not isntall the driver successfully
[01:06] <user82> *reveals
[01:06] <Jisawesome2> serverplatypus, do you want me to post the result to a pastebin?
[01:06] <William9455> I get that, any way to get back to where the desktop is working or is unity pretty much gone, after the install my backup copies were also gone
[01:06] <serverplatypus> Jisawesome2: knock yourself out dude :)
[01:07] <Jisawesome2> well, oyu asked whsat it said...
[01:08] <serverplatypus> Jisawesome2: no, I meant, go ahead, I'd like to see
[01:09] <daftykins> !pastebin | William9455
[01:09] <William9455> sorry will do next time
[01:09] <Jisawesome2> pastebin.com/srgFupZG
[01:09] <daftykins> William9455: nah i mean put your log in that to show the channel
[01:09] <William9455> Ahh ok
[01:10] <daftykins> :>
[01:11] <William9455> it is up
[01:11] <Jammes_R> hi all
[01:11] <William9455> Hello James
[01:11] <Jammes_R> have a little problem w/ persistant instalation
[01:11] <Jammes_R> anyone willing to help...?
[01:11] <William9455> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1486567/
[01:13] <Jisawesome2> See anything serverplatypus?
[01:13] <topper4125> !details | Jammes_R
[01:14] <Jammes_R> ok
[01:14] <Jammes_R> well it is not a real ubuntu it is based on ubuntu first
[01:15] <Jammes_R> i followed a guide on internet
[01:15] <Jammes_R> and im almost at the end
[01:15] <Jammes_R> just cant figureout
[01:15] <Jammes_R> syslinux thing
[01:15] <topper4125> Which distro is it?
[01:15] <Jammes_R> what file or what content i have to replasy to make it bootable
[01:16] <Jammes_R> BT5 and the guide that im following is http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=bg&tbo=d&site=&q=cache:okDdyCmzkzwJ:http://www.backtrack-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Persistent_USB%2Bbacktrack+persistent&nfpr=&spell=1&ct=clnk
[01:16] <Jammes_R> cant perform last part
[01:17] <Jammes_R> w/ "cp" commands
[01:17] <sporkubus> hi guys ... i finally got ubuntu 12.10 working on my macbook pro but i can't get the wifi to work at all... i've followed 6 or 7 different online guides and i'm totally stuck :(
[01:17] <Jammes_R> always get an error
[01:17] <xangua> !backtrack | Jammes_R
[01:18] <Jammes_R> i know but the problem is not related with remositories or any other other stuff
[01:18] <Jammes_R> i thing is more "behind the keybord device problem " thing
[01:18] <Jisawesome2> See anything serverplatypus?
[01:20] <William9455> No ideas on my problem?
[01:20] <topper4125> I think the #backtrack-linux people would have better support for this...
[01:20] <alcaprawn> terminal command to show gnome_version?
[01:21] <William9455> ok
[01:22] <topper4125> alcaprawn: gnome-panel --version
[01:24] <topper4125> sporkubus: did you try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456996
[01:29] <Ironicus> Greetings, I am hopeful there is someone here who is willing/able to help me with recovering data from a drive with 2 partitions.  Partition 1 is encrypted, partition 2 is not and is 6.4 gb, partition 1 is the remainder of the 250gb disk.  the drive has footage on it that was recorded from a zmodo surveillance dvr.
[01:31] <operhiem1> What can I check when I'm not being prompted for my cryptsetup passphrase by the initramfs?
[01:32] <operhiem1> The RAID volume that holds the crypt_LUKS partition is active, but the initramfs itself seems to lack vgscan and friends.
[01:32] <operhiem1> How might I add them to the initramfs?
[01:33] <serverplatypus> Jisawesome2: Hmmm I can't see anything in particular, do you know which module that corresponds to your card?
[01:33] <Ironicus> Greetings, I am hopeful there is someone here who is willing/able to help me with recovering data from a drive with 2 partitions.  Partition 1 is encrypted, partition 2 is not and is 6.4 gb, partition 1 is the remainder of the 250gb disk.  the drive has footage on it that was recorded from a zmodo surveillance dvr.
[01:34] <sporkubus> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my wifi isn't working?
[01:34] <sporkubus> i've tried so many things now...
[01:34] <X-Sleepy-X> hi :) i have a problem with the fan on my laptop running 12.04. in win7 the fan was mostly quiet but not its running all the time and the laptop feels warmer than back in win7. it's an asus n53sm-s1087v
[01:34] <kslater> I'm doing an EOL upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and I've run into a problem where it's trying to fetch packages from a repository that doesn't exist any longer. I have the old-releases.ubuntu.com entries in sources.list, but they're at the bottom. Maybe I should move them up?
[01:34] <dr_willis> Ironicus:  so you want to recover partition 2? or 1 or both?
[01:35] <dr_willis> kslater:  what package/repo is it wanting to get stuff from?
[01:35] <topper4125> Ironicus: just a shot in the dark here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=890770
[01:35] <dr_willis> Ironicus:  no need to msg me. keep it in the channel
[01:36] <kslater> sporkubus: what are you trying to use to configure and control wifi with?
[01:36] <Ironicus> Sorry, Partition 1 please
[01:36] <sporkubus> kslater: what do you mean
[01:36] <kslater> badly worded question, are you using some gui tool? Or doing stuff from the command line?
[01:36] <sporkubus> command line
[01:36] <sporkubus> even though I don't really know what I'm doing, just following guides online
[01:37] <dr_willis> Ironicus:  so you have an encrypred 245gb partition that you want to 'rescue' - you do know how to unencrypt it?
[01:37] <kslater> dr_willis: Here's the error
[01:37] <kslater> W:Failed to fetch
[01:37] <kslater> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[01:37] <sporkubus> I have a broadcomm b4331 so i've been following specific instructions for that, but nothing has worked so far
[01:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> Can I convince py2dsc not to prepend "python-" to my package's name?
[01:38] <dr_willis> kslater:  thats still uisng the old now eol repo. not the old-releases.  repo it seems
[01:39] <Ironicus> I do not, unfortunately it seems that the tech support dept at zmodo doesn't know much about how their devices are built, the type of encryption used , etc.
[01:39] <kslater> dr_willis: I think you're correct. I'm going to poke around on old-releases and see if I can spot extras
[01:39] <kslater> extras.old-releases.ubuntu.com?
[01:39] <Zapthus> Yo amo ubuntu!!!
[01:39] <Zapthus> oh yeah!
[01:39] <dr_willis> Ironicus:  so by 'recover' you mean 'unencrypt  a working encrypted hard drive'
[01:40]  * rootpt off
[01:41] <Ironicus> Here's the issue, there should be hours and hours of footage listed in the gui of the dvr, but there is none, so my theory is that the partition has become corrupted or the file system is perhaps corrupted?
[01:41] <Ironicus> I apologize for the vaguness of my request
[01:42] <dr_willis> Ironicus:  can you even see files on it?
[01:42] <Ironicus> no, not on partition 1, partition 2 has some log files, but partition1 remains mysterious
[01:43] <dr_willis> if the company cant even tell you the type of encryption used.. i would say its a lost cause.
[01:43] <dr_willis> unless you can get better tech support from them
[01:44] <topper4125> was the partition encrypted through Ubuntu?
[01:44] <Jisawesome_> serverplatypus, would that mean the pci slot?
[01:44] <Ironicus> Is there any way to determine what the encryption is?  there must be a tool available that can at least tell me that, right?
[01:44] <topper4125> if it was try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31675/decrypt-home-from-separate-partition-after-re-install
[01:45] <Ironicus> The data is encrypted by the dvr as it is recorded I believe
[01:46] <topper4125> oh... okay... start with googling  "DVR [model] encrytpion"
[01:46] <topper4125> I thought this was just a general "Ubuntu /home encryption" thing
[01:48] <Ironicus> google results seem to all reference WPA and WEP encryption, not seeing anything referencing file encryption though
[01:49] <tripelb> I was sent here because I have a nexus 7 to talk to people were putting Ubuntu on. That was 2 weeks ago and I see nothing can I find out where and when people are talking about that I have so many questions.  Also http://randall.executiv.es/raring_nexus7 but the channel the mansion isn't on freenode if indeed it is a channel at all.
[01:49] <MoL0ToV> why to encrypt files?
[01:49] <MoL0ToV> is more simple to do a chmod
[01:49] <Jisawesome_> can someone diagnose this problem I am having with my wireless card?
[01:49] <cfhowlett> tripelb: it's under development.  that's all we know.
[01:49] <Jisawesome_> It locates my network, and seems like it connects
[01:50] <MoL0ToV> but?
[01:50] <Jisawesome_> But then, when I try to open a page on the internet, it suddenly disconnects and the page does not load
[01:50] <Ironicus> I can add that normally to view the footage on a pc you would plug a usb storage device into the dvr, perform an export from the dvr menu , then use a comverter to convert the files from their h.264 format to avi format
[01:50] <cfhowlett> tripelb: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
[01:50] <MoL0ToV> Jisawesome_, you are distant from wifi router?
[01:50] <Jisawesome_> I am probably 15 feet
[01:51] <Jisawesome_> And my phone can use it from over 30
[01:51] <MoL0ToV> if you go near the router
[01:51] <MoL0ToV> works or disconnect?
[01:51] <Jisawesome_> I havent tried, but I would predict the same result
[01:52] <MoL0ToV> what wireless card you have?
[01:52] <Jisawesome_> Rosewill RNX 150pc
[01:53] <MoL0ToV> you can try to check if power output level of the router and whe wireless nic is set to max
[01:53] <MoL0ToV> then try to change wifi channel
[01:53] <Jisawesome_> I was unable to install the drivers if that could be the issue
[01:53] <MoL0ToV> is possible that exist other wifi transimission on came chan
[01:54] <MoL0ToV> same
[01:54] <Jisawesome_> no
[01:54] <dr_willis> tripelb:  theres the #ubuntu-arm channel also
[01:54] <tripelb> cfhowlett: tx
[01:54] <Jisawesome_> My other devices pick it up fine
[01:54] <cfhowlett> tripelb: no worries.
[01:55] <kslater> so what I need is an old-releases.ubuntu.com repository that has extras for either natty or maverick
[01:55] <MoL0ToV> is possible that rosewill device is defected
[01:56] <Jisawesome_> I suppose it is possible
[01:56] <Jisawesome_> I havent tested it in any other system
[01:56] <MoL0ToV> try to place in another pc
[01:56] <MoL0ToV> and you see
[01:56] <Jisawesome_> Can a wireless card work without drivers?
[01:57] <dr_willis> Jisawesome_:  they always have somr sort of drivers.. mine are included in ubuntu
[01:57] <dr_willis> plug them in and they work
[01:57] <k1l_> kslater: you should replace the releases to old-releases for all repos
[01:57] <Jisawesome_> I cant install mine, the disk will not work on ubuntu
[01:57] <Jisawesome_> and ubuntu does not have them in the repositories
[01:57] <dr_willis> Jisawesome_:  disk? use the repo drivers/extras
[01:58] <dr_willis> or find a ppa
[01:58] <Jisawesome_> What is a repo?
[01:58] <MoL0ToV> Jisawesome_, open a terminal and do lspci or lsusb to view what chipset the network card uses
[01:58] <dr_willis> its all about the chipset of the card. not the brandname
[01:59] <Jisawesome_> Well, I downloaded a linux compatible driver from the manuyfacturer website, but I do not know how to install it
[01:59] <kslater> k1l_: the only place releases appears in my sources.list is in lines with old-releases.
[01:59] <MoL0ToV> Jisawesome_, all wifi card is supported in linux
[01:59] <kslater> so that's not it
[01:59] <MoL0ToV> only few arent
[01:59] <CrusaderAD> Anyone know what's up with the timer on ubuntu.com?
[02:00] <Jisawesome_> But linux can not run .exe files
[02:00] <Jisawesome_> Which is what are on the driver cd
[02:00] <MoL0ToV> Jisawesome_, you must connect the  wireless card then do a lspci or lsusb to view the chipset
[02:00] <k1l_> CrusaderAD: wait and see :)
[02:00] <MoL0ToV> then you know also what driver is needed
[02:00] <MoL0ToV> and you can donload and install the kernel module
[02:00] <cfhowlett> CrusaderAD: no one knows.  patience.  all will be revealed.  i gues
[02:00] <CrusaderAD> k1l_: no spoilers, eh?
[02:00] <MoL0ToV> if not included in linux kernel
[02:00] <CrusaderAD> :)
[02:01] <Jisawesome_> I downloaded a driver
[02:01] <Jisawesome_> But I dont know how to install it
[02:01] <MoL0ToV> you must listen.
[02:01] <MoL0ToV> open a terminal
[02:01] <MoL0ToV> and do a lspci or lsusb
[02:01] <Jisawesome_> Ive done that already
[02:01] <Jisawesome_> I know the chipset, and I downloaded a driver for it
[02:01] <MoL0ToV> and what are the chipset?
[02:02] <yaboo> hi all how to I increase the partition size of a existing partition.
[02:02] <Jisawesome_> Its downstairs at the moment
[02:02] <kslater> so I commented out the extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main line in sources.list. Now we're Calculating the changes, so that's progress
[02:02] <cfhowlett> yaboo: boot from usb/cd, run gparted and resize
[02:03] <yaboo> cfhowlett, thanks
[02:03] <MoL0ToV> Jisawesome_, connect the interface, do a lsusb then say what chipset are
[02:04] <yaboo> cfhowlett, forgot its a virtual box ubuntu, guess cannot be done?
[02:08] <user__> Soo.. whats goin on guys?
[02:08] <cfhowlett> yaboo: resize?  sure.  I think.  so long as you're only resizing the partition, not the HDD, the method is the same, so far as I know.
[02:09] <moes> !notunity
[02:09] <dr_willis> vbox has ways to enlarge the virtual disks. then you can expand the file systems
[02:10] <Jisawesome_> Ralink RT 3060
[02:10] <dr_willis> or just add more virtual disks
[02:10] <Jisawesome_> MoLoToV Ralink RT 3060
[02:11] <cfhowlett> dr_willis: totally outside my ability to speak to.  Please advise yaboo as needed.
[02:11] <MoL0ToV> you tryed to follow this guide? http://askubuntu.com/questions/84959/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3060-wireless-card-working
[02:12] <kslater> ok, here we go on the first upgrade
[02:12] <lcabreza> hey guys, how do we check the existing volume group space remaining ?
[02:12] <Jisawesome_> Ill try that, thanks
[02:12]  * kslater wishes he could have a beer
[02:12] <dr_willis> vbox manual is the place to start
[02:14] <Lady_Aleena> Thank you all for trying to help me.
[02:18] <slacksd> Thank you
[02:18] <usuario> valdice
[02:18] <slacksd> opps, sorry.
[02:18] <slacksd> wrong window
[02:24] <cfhowlett> kslater: beer after upgrade.  It's a law.
[02:24] <cfhowlett> lcabreza: df -h  or df -H
[02:24] <kslater> cfhowlett: dude, I would love to, but a medication I'm taking would say "Not a good plan"
[02:25] <kslater> maybe in 6 months
[02:25] <cfhowlett> kslater: OK then.
[02:25] <rsvp> which medication?
[02:25] <kslater> believe me, I've been patiently waiting. While my wife and son drink every interesting beer and wine in the state
[02:26] <A_Dave> witch medication?
[02:26] <kslater> Lamictal
[02:26] <lcabreza>  cfhowlett:using veritas or VXfs
[02:26] <cfhowlett> lcabreza: ah, sorry.  must have missed. that.
[02:26] <kslater> Actually, I need to review all of those drug information pages and see which one(s) prohibit alcohol.
[02:27] <rsvp> u shall get super drowsy :(
[02:31] <p0rk> Does the nobody user and/or group allow everyone access, or no one?
[02:35] <somsip> p0rk: same as any other user or group. So only users called 'nobody' or in the group called 'nobody' respectively
[02:36] <p0rk> perfect
[02:36] <p0rk> thank you
[02:36] <somsip> !nobody | p0rk
[02:36] <somsip> meh
[02:37] <p0rk> all good
[02:37] <somsip> k
[02:41] <kermit> whats package-data-downloader and why's it seem to be trying to install things on it's own?
[02:44] <A_Dave> package-data-downloader is called to update flash, it appears
[02:45] <AshleyWaffle12> Hi, is the Ubuntu 32 bit 12.10 DVD a hybrid image? (hybridiso)
[02:45] <AshleyWaffle12> or should I make it one with isohybrid
[02:46] <Ray2> Ubuntu-12.04...Trying o/s from a cd switched to gnome-classic...Set up four workspace When I click on 2 thru 4 the screen goes black...mouse move but cannot select anything as there are no menu's on screen
[02:48] <Jake90> real talkative bunch here, huh?
[02:48] <operhiem1> There's a certain kind of silence contained in a restrained panic.
[02:49] <operhiem1> To that end, any pointers on what more I should check when my initramfs doesn't prompt for a cryptsetup passphrase?
[02:50] <kslater> who was the guy trying to put Ubuntu on a Transformer Prime?
[02:50] <operhiem1> I do have the UUID of /dev/md0 listed in /etc/crypttab and have since run update-initramfs and update-grub.
[02:50] <AshleyWaffle12> kslater: Transformer Prime?
[02:51] <AshleyWaffle12> kslater: What's that?
[02:51] <operhiem1> If I run cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/md0 name from the initramfs shell I'm dropped to when the root device times out I'm able to open the volume.
[02:51] <kslater> It's an Android tablet from ASUS
[02:52] <operhiem1> I'd still be able to boot if I could run vgscan and vgchange from the initramfs shell, but they're not included.
[02:53] <kslater> anyway, someone had asked about it earlier. I don't have much scroll back as I closed pidgin while my update is running
[02:53] <kslater> if that guy asks again, send him over to #asus-transformer, he'll likely get better answers there.
[02:54] <Emanon> Hold on there was a thread about putting it on the tf101 that might work for the 201
[02:56] <Emanon> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852702
[02:57] <Ray2> Ubuntu-12.04...Trying o/s from a cd switched to gnome-classic...Set up four workspace When I click on 2 thru 4 the screen goes black...mouse move but cannot select anything as there are no menu's on screen
[02:58] <isasha> well you'll never guess how I got that printer to work...
[02:59] <dr_willis> isasha:  large hammer?
[02:59] <isasha> no, Windows XP
[02:59] <Cong> How do I get a shortcut of the rubbish bin on my desktoP?
[02:59] <dr_willis> isasha:  large bloated os?   ;0
[02:59] <isasha> well hey, it actually worked :/
[03:00] <isasha> and it installed in 5 minutes on an SSD :D
[03:00] <dr_willis> im suprised it worked at all
[03:00] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:00] <isasha> hahahahaha
[03:00] <Xabster> Is there an Ubuntu "subdistro" for developers?
[03:01] <Emanon> That would be cool.
[03:01] <Xabster> like lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu
[03:01] <Xabster> just one with a lot of dev tools and less distractions
[03:02] <Xabster> one i could boot when i need work done
[03:02] <Emanon> And have it be clean of extra stuff so it doesn't cause problems in the product program too.
[03:02] <Emanon> Call it CleanRoom Ubuntu or something.
[03:03] <Xabster> i guess, but i don't really have such problems
[03:03] <Emanon> I've heard some do.
[03:05] <Ray2> Oh well another session without help !!!!!Bye
[03:08]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[03:14] <kedzie> irc://irc.wikkedwire.com/narecovery
[03:17] <Xabster> what's the countdown on ubuntu.com for?
[03:18] <dr_willis> mayan calander for the release of the ubuntu cranial implant
[03:18] <cfhowlett> Xabster: no one knows.  we'll find out in 14 hours.
[03:18] <somsip> Xabster: an announcement
[03:18] <Xabster> uh secrets
[03:18] <Xabster> i love secrets
[03:18] <lcabreza> exciting ...
[03:19]  * dr_willis waits for marketing hype and dissapointment
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Xabster: ubuntu sputnik edition is for developers ...
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Xabster: sputnik-precise
[03:20] <Xabster> hmm
[03:20] <Xabster> google results are not good
[03:20] <Xabster> does it not have its own site?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Xabster: see  http://cn.engadget.com/tag/ubuntu+12.04+lts+precise+pangolin/
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Xabster: or not. sorry.  look up the dell sputnik project for details
[03:22] <Xabster> thanks, but if it doesn't have its own site it's probably not well enough tested for my taste
[03:22] <Xabster> i'm a beginner and have other needs
[03:22] <Cong> what's the rubbish bin icon for .desktop files?
[03:22] <cfhowlett> Xabster: it's targeted to ubuntu developers, not beginners
[03:22] <Chelsea> Hi all, I've selected a wrong driver in "Additional Drivers", and now I'm stuck in textmode (allready did nvidia-xconfig). Is there a way to select drivers from the CLI?
[03:22] <rhydin> hi. i made a live usb install using universal usb installer ( http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button ) and even with the persistence feature, my live usb is still not retaining my custom UI and still prompts try/install on boot. i deleted casper-rw and created an ext4 partition, which i can see on the live usb. ideas?
[03:23] <p0rk> I'm looking for a backup solution that will integrate with Webmin or has it's own web based GUI. Something based on tar and/or rsync would be ideal. Any suggestions?
[03:23] <Xabster> cfhowlett: i didn't mean ubuntu developers, i meant programmers and coders using ubuntu
[03:23] <Xabster> i just kinda want some pre-installed programs
[03:23] <Xabster> sort of like the ubuntu distro made for learning and children
[03:24] <dr_willis> p0rk: webmin has a bad rep. ;)  ebox is normallt reccomended
[03:24] <dr_willis> !ebox
[03:24] <p0rk> for real? Webmin has never let me down.
[03:24] <somsip> p0rk: not sure about the webmin integration, but: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem#Backup_Methods
[03:24] <dr_willis> !webmin
[03:24] <p0rk> somsip, i read over that article a few minutes ago. ill revisit it, thank you.
[03:25] <p0rk> I completely understand, and that's fine, but I did not ask for help with Webmin, nor is it causing any problems what-so-ever. I will look into the suggested replacement in the meantime.
[03:26] <p0rk> hmm
[03:26] <p0rk> zentyal does look pretty
[03:27] <rhydin> are there any recommended guides for setting up a persistent usb configuration on the ubuntu wiki? i'm having trouble.
[03:27] <dr_willis> rhydin:  i find it easier to just do a full install to usb.
[03:29] <rhydin> dr_willis, that sounds like a good idea. is that possible to install from windows?
[03:30] <dr_willis> rhydin:  no idea. i boot one usb live setup. install to a 2nd usb flash
[03:31] <frustrated> does anyone know why my menus sometimes become really tiny so that i cant see nor use them. here is an example, my skype menu has shrunk to an unusable size: http://picpaste.com/4591a49fe076d744cea356a3d2758e91.png
[03:31] <frustrated> but it also happens with system menus
[03:31] <frustrated> like network connections
[03:31] <frustrated> and i have to log out to fix it
[03:33] <frustrated> hello?
[03:33] <carol_> hello
[03:34] <somsip> frustrated: what desktop is that?
[03:34] <carol_> so what are you running?
[03:34] <frustrated> gnome
[03:34] <frustrated> 2d
[03:34] <frustrated> no effects
[03:34] <frustrated> somsip: did that answer your question?
[03:34] <frustrated> sorry if it didnt
[03:35] <somsip> frustrated: yes - I have no experience of gnome so can't help
[03:35] <dr_willis> not seen  that issue mentioned in here befor either
[03:36] <frustrated> dr_willis: its extremely irritating
[03:37] <dr_willis> id make a new user. see if it happens to them.
[03:37] <Cong> I got a issue too. The paste option in the menu won't change from greyed out.
[03:37] <pyro3o7> if I have a static ip setup in /etc/network/interfaces is there any reason to keep the packages dhcp3-client and dhcp3-common?
[03:38] <frustrated> dr_willis: is there a gnome channel?
[03:39] <frustrated> or do i have to go to another network for that?
[03:39] <dr_willis> #gnome perhaps
[03:39] <dr_willis> but gnome fallback/clasic mode dosent get much love
[03:40] <dr_willis> i dont use it either
[03:40] <dr_willis> gnome-shell is nifty
[03:40] <frustrated> dr_willis: why not?
[03:40] <dr_willis> why should i?
[03:41] <dr_willis> its limited, problematic, and scheduled for removal in the future
[03:41] <rhydin> why is 32-bit recommended over 64-bit versions?
[03:41] <dr_willis> rhydin:  idiot proofing.
[03:41] <frustrated> dr_willis: usually when someone says something like  "X doesnt get much love" they mean X doesn't get much love by people in general. Sorry I misunderstood.
[03:41] <alcaprawn> Does anybody use get_iplayer on ubuntu and pref with mplayer too?
[03:41] <dr_willis> if you have 64bit hardware, then use  64bit ;) if you want
[03:42] <dr_willis> frustrated:  gnome fallback mode was ment as a tempary fix its scheduled to be removed from gnome in the near future.
[03:43] <Cong> There'll still be gnome-panel thought, right?
[03:43] <frustrated> dr_willis: so ill be stuck with the gnome that has the annoying menu pop up when you move your cursor over the top left corner of the screen?
[03:43] <dr_willis> gnome-shell dosent have a gnome panel
[03:44] <dr_willis> frustrated:  theres plugins to customize gnome shell
[03:44] <frustrated> why do they have to mess around with success? gnome classic worked well. this is a serious question. does anyone know?
[03:45] <dr_willis> gnome classic had major issuea and a very old code base
[03:45] <dr_willis> with your logic we sould be using windows 95 clones
[03:45] <A_Dave> they are trying to go to touch screen interfaces like on phones
[03:45] <frustrated> what are the implications of having "major issues" or a "very old code base"? im not a programmer
[03:45] <Xab> is there a way to test hardware compatibility before installing? something like exposing the real hardware to a virtual machine instance?
[03:46] <dr_willis> frustrated:  had to fix deep bugs and implement new features
[03:46] <milamber> Xab: livecd?
[03:46] <dr_willis> hard
[03:46] <Xab> oh right
[03:46] <frustrated> dr_willis: do you have any suggestions for an alternate desktop?
[03:46] <A_Dave> kde?
[03:46] <dr_willis> fru i use unnity, or gnome-shell or lubuntu
[03:46] <frustrated> kde is too complicated
[03:46] <A_Dave> xfce?
[03:47] <alcaprawn> kde complicated lol
[03:47] <alcaprawn> bloated more like =D
[03:47] <frustrated> dr_willis what is the differnece between gnome and gnome shell
[03:47] <frustrated> yes bloated too
[03:47] <alcaprawn> its the boomer of all window managers ;D
[03:47] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[03:47] <alcaprawn> ratposion ftw :P
[03:47] <dr_willis> gnome shell is the fancy shell for gnome3
[03:47] <alcaprawn> but, srsly does anybody use get_iplayer?
[03:47] <dr_willis> unity is a shell for gnome3
[03:48] <A_Dave> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Alternative-Desktop-Managers-in-Ubuntu-48586.shtml
[03:49] <A_Dave> http://www.pcworld.com/article/214930/6_alternative_ubuntu_desktops_worth_trying.html
[03:49] <dr_willis> if you want light and old skool. theres lubuntu and xubuntu
[03:49] <frustrated> will lubuntu affect any of the programs i use?
[03:49] <A_Dave> kde, sfce, lxde, fluxbox, enlightenment, unity
[03:49] <A_Dave> sorry, xfce
[03:50] <dr_willis> desktop really shouldent matter much
[03:51] <frustrated> i really only need a menu, a battery meter, a network configuration menu and a weather widget
[03:52] <A_Dave> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[03:53] <vivekimsit> Hi guys! I have a script in the init.d dir. How to make it auto start on boot?
[03:55] <Cong> Not how to make it auto start on boot, it is how can I make it start on startup? boot is bootstrapping.
[03:56] <Xab> oh yeah, i totally forgot
[03:56] <dr_willis> you may want to check thta 'upstart cookbook' site cong
[03:56] <Xab> ubuntu has amazon link
[03:56] <Xab> what did they pay for that?
[03:56] <Xab> and to who?
[03:56] <dr_willis> Xab:  we have no idea in here
[03:57] <dr_willis> its been in the forums and blog sites for ages
[03:57] <dr_willis> !adlens
[03:57] <vivekimsit> Cong:  ok!
[03:57] <Xab> how about i don't want my OS to have advertisements?
[03:57] <Xab> :[
[03:58] <somsip> Xab:  simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping
[03:58] <dr_willis> then  remove thhhe leeeens like tot just said..../
[03:58] <dr_willis> bot..
[03:58] <Xab> no i dont want to
[03:58] <Xab> ill find other distro to show that i don't condone it
[03:58] <dr_willis> privacy settings, or remove the lens.
[03:59] <dr_willis> we dont care what you do
[03:59] <dr_willis> we just supply support answers
[03:59] <Xab> so i should have stayed quite ?
[03:59] <Xab> i just replied to your help
[04:00] <Xab> next ill stay quite
[04:00] <dr_willis> you asked.. we answered.. we dont have inside info on this stuff
[04:00] <A_Dave> surely you mean "quiet"?
[04:00] <vivekimsit> dr_willis: Can I get  link to that doc?
[04:00] <dr_willis> which doc
[04:01] <vivekimsit> dr_willis: "you may want to check thta 'upstart cookbook' site cong"
[04:01] <dr_willis> vivekimsit:  i always just put 'upstart cookbook' into google
[04:01] <Cong> that's an expression.
[04:02] <vivekimsit> dr_willis: It depends on Distro!
[04:02] <dr_willis> going to google.com and entering a search term depends on the distro?
[04:03] <apn> dr_willis: no
[04:04] <vivekimsit> dr_willis:  Ok! one more thing, the script I am talking about starts a service and I have already wrote a script for that in the init.d dir.
[04:04] <rhydin> can the ubuntu image be overburned to a cd-r, or should it be written to a dvd?
[04:04] <dr_willis> rhydin:  12.10 i think needs a dvd
[04:04] <rhydin> thanks.
[04:16] <Reals> I'm having problems with ps. When I run ps aux only my processes are listed….. only sudo ps aux shows all the processes. Any thoughts?
[04:17] <Reals> I've searched everywhere on the internet for an answer
[04:17] <rhydin> are there any versions that require less than 4.8gb of drive space to install to a drive? my flash drive is only 4gb.
[04:18] <rhydin> the setup won't allow me to continue.
[04:18] <Reals> burn a dvd?
[04:19] <rhydin> er. i'm booted from the live dvd and installing to a flash drive
[04:19] <acovrig> what would you suggest for installing a virtual box machine to a physical machine?
[04:21] <Reals> if your booted using a live cd can't you just download ubuntu to the drive directly?
[04:22] <rhydin> reals, that's what i'm trying to do?
[04:23] <Reals> not a usb drive but the hardrive
[04:23] <rhydin> i don't have a hdd in the unit, that's the issue.
[04:27] <Cong> Why do my windows keep sticking to the bottom or top sometimes?
[04:31] <Cong> Cycling, i.e. close, open, fixes it.
[04:34] <kelvinella> hi
[04:34] <kelvinella> what is jockey-text?
[04:34] <kelvinella> it crashes when I try to install Additional Driver
[04:35] <Emanon> Jockey is the program that handles that "Additional Driver" section.
[04:35] <kelvinella> but the nvidia driver is installed anyway
[04:35] <kelvinella> so should i just ignore the crash msg?
[04:35] <Cong> jockey doesn't work for me either.
[04:36] <Emanon> I have no idea whether you should ignore it but that's what it is.
[04:36] <Cong> some internal problem; bug
[04:36] <kelvinella> i restart the computer, nothing breaks i guess i can just ignore it
[04:41] <Cong> How do I disable sticky edges?
[04:42] <Emanon> Install CompizConfig Settings Manager and it's an option in there.
[04:42] <jagginess> Cong, compiz stuff.. it must be in there ^ yup
[04:42] <^Phantom^> does this channel dispense help for nexus 7 installations?
[04:42] <cheque> Simple question, Trying to find out if a friend made a user on headless setup without my permission, is "syslog" an actual user with a home directory? I get "syslog" and "cheque (my nick) as my two users after doing the following command: cat /etc/passwd | grep /home | cut -d: -f1
[04:43] <Emanon> In the window management section of CCSM Cong.
[04:43] <jrib> cheque: yes syslog is an actual user
[04:44] <AshleyWaffle12> jrib: But it doesn't have a /home directory does it?
[04:44] <jrib> AshleyWaffle12: it does apparently
[04:44] <AshleyWaffle12> cheque: Maybe he "occupied" the syslog user and made a home directory for it
[04:44] <jrib> (though the directory does not exist)
[04:44] <AshleyWaffle12> See?
[04:44] <Cong> Emanon, can I use something that doesn't involve CCSM?
[04:44] <mibitzi> it has a directory assigned in /etc/passwd but it's not created
[04:44] <AshleyWaffle12> Plus, having syslog might be convienient for destroying any logs of his actions
[04:45] <cheque> AshleyWaffle12, hmm any way i can find out size of syslog directory via command? i'm root n headless
[04:45] <cheque> If it's lots of GB's he may be using it for storage
[04:45] <AshleyWaffle12> cheque: Well, you can check all the files in it
[04:45] <Cong> Emanon, something installed already.
[04:45] <jrib> cheque: the output from your grep command seems to be normal.
[04:45] <AshleyWaffle12> cheque: type ls -la /home
[04:45] <AshleyWaffle12> What directories come up aside from your own, if any
[04:46] <Emanon> Possibly Cong but I don't know of it.
[04:46] <cheque> AshleyWaffle12 none just lost+found and cheque
[04:46] <AshleyWaffle12> cheque: That's fine then
[04:46] <AshleyWaffle12> cheque: Sure he isn't using your user?
[04:46] <LiquidSmoke> can somebody help me out with an install problem I'm having with a uefi board
[04:46] <cheque> AshleyWaffle12 no but i'll change pass for safety.
[04:47] <AshleyWaffle12> cheque: Also, you can use a different home directory than /home
[04:47] <jrib> cheque: what password are you changing?
[04:47] <AshleyWaffle12> For example, he could have made some obscure sounding /usr directory
[04:47] <woot_> !help
[04:47] <maslo> is there such a thing as a mime email parser that I could use in a php script to get important information? plain body, subject, from address, to address etc?
[04:47] <cheque> jrib cheque and root passes
[04:48] <Emanon> If you're that worried AshleyWaffle12 just reinstall saving only /home/<youruser> and an apt dump (whatever that command is) of your packages.
[04:48] <jrib> maslo: you might ask ##php for best practices
[04:48] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: It's not me, it's cheque
[04:48] <maslo> jrib: I was wondering if there was a package that does it that I can call within my php script, I have tried several php classes but they all fail with some mime types
[04:49] <woot_> all_: Can anyone help me with "no such file or directory" error?
[04:49] <Emanon> Sorry AshleyWaffle12.
[04:49] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: Besides, even that isn't secure... It's theoretically possible to slip in a rootkitted package, right?
[04:49] <cheque> Emanon not that worried but just wanted to know if any user except my own existed that was suspicious seeing he may have renamed it to "syslog" thinking I might say thats sys log no need for suspicion lol
[04:49] <Emanon> I suppose so. So just backup /home<youruesr> to something with exec turned off to check for strange filesizes.
[04:50] <aaas> i7 w/ ssd (not sure that matters, unless it is booting too fast): i get cifs errors because fstab tries to mount cifs shares before the network is up, does any one else experience this? I tried 'nounix,bootwait' as arguments to fstab but doesnt seem to help.  I need to connect to a samba share at boot, but i need to do it after network is up, using default upstart scripts, and hacking rc.local seems klugly to me, any other solutions for a he
[04:50] <aaas> adless server?
[04:50] <sw0rdfish> will adding my user to group adm ... allow me to copy files from /etc/openvpn/keys via sftp?
[04:50] <sw0rdfish> its saying permission denied
[04:50] <Emanon> I like you AshleyWaffle12.
[04:51] <kelvinella> how do u move icon launcher in the unity bar?
[04:51] <LiquidSmoke> I am running a asus m5a97 motherboard with uefi bios, i went for a reinstall of ubuntu after getting a new harddrive and cant get around the the uefi bootloader, when i originally set it up, i remember using a lower version with a diff bootloader and then upgrading to current version....this now isnt working for me either
[04:51] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: Thanks lol, why?
[04:51] <Emanon> Click and hold until it pops off then move kelvinella
[04:52] <Emanon> Cause you seem like the kind of person who hangs out in security forums coming up with solutions to security holes that have only been exploited in labs.
[04:52] <Emanon> So you seem likeme.
[04:53] <JoshDreamland> Could anyone tell me what service brings my kernel down for immediate halt when I press the power button?
[04:53] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: Hehe, personality wise, yes - whenever I'm doing anything from playing Minecraft to chatting on irc, my imagination flashes by with all the things going on
[04:53] <woot_> I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I am trying to install a couple of programs, but no matter what directory I try to change to, I get "no such files or directory" error. I even get it on a file I downloaded.
[04:53] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: Though I don't have any security forums I go on now :(
[04:53] <AshleyWaffle12> you could query me some links :D
[04:53] <kelvinella> i set autohide on the unity and now i switch back to autohide - off but it is still autohide?
[04:53] <kelvinella> how to fix?
[04:54] <Emanon> I have my laptop set up to resist cold boot (which is out of labs now) as well as evil maid and evil chef.
[04:54] <metaphysician> I want to mirror a repository, but I only want to get the latest versions of all packages in that repository. How can I do that?
[04:56] <LiquidSmoke> anybody know how to get around the uefi bootloader to installl ubuntu?
[04:56] <Emanon> This may not be supported (and tell me if it's not) but have you tried UnSettings kelvinella?
[04:56] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: What security forums do you go on?
[04:56] <woot_> I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I am trying to install a couple of programs, but no matter what directory I try to change to, I get "no such files or directory" error. I even get it on a file I downloaded.
[04:56] <kelvinella> Emanon, ?
[04:56] <kelvinella> what is unsetting?
[04:56] <Emanon> I get rss feeds from several security sites AshleyWaffle12 sec.
[04:57] <Emanon> kelvinella: It's an application to configure Unity. It's more featureful than the built in settings.
[04:57] <Emanon> Sec kelvinella I'll get you a link.
[04:57] <Emanon> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/tweak-unity-with-unsettings-008-now.html
[04:58] <Emanon> And Pardon me if it's not Canonically supported.
[04:58] <kelvinella> how to install unsettings?
[04:59] <Emanon> The link I sent just now explains.
[05:00] <Emanon> Huh, AshleyWaffle12 I must have cleaned out my security feeds only r/netsec is in there now.
[05:00] <woot_> Emanon_:Can you help with fatal error:no such file or directoy?
[05:00] <LiquidSmoke>  anybody know how to get around the uefi bootloader to installl ubuntu?
[05:00] <Emanon> No idea woot_  it happens to me occasionally too and I'd love to see a fix.
[05:01] <Basil1x> 12.10 on a Toshiba L755.  the sound works for a bit, then craps out.  everything insists sound is working, but there is no sound.  bog standard install.  HDMI port is unaffected, is internal speakers only that don't work.  Any help would be appreciated.
[05:01] <AshleyWaffle12> Emanon: Okay, cool
[05:01] <kelvinella> Emanon, i think i will try restart the computer and it maybe fix
[05:01] <woot_> Emanon_: Then how does anyone ever get anything done in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Emanon> https://pay.reddit.com/r/netsec/new/?sort=new is pretty good though AshleyWaffle12.
[05:02] <Emanon> woot_: We do our best and try to find someone more knowledgable when we screw something up just like the real world.
[05:02] <RiXtEr> woot_, how are you trying to access this file?
[05:03] <kelvinella> Emanon, restart fix it
[05:03] <woot_> Rixter_: Terminal "cd /home/cgminer-2.10.4-x86_64-built.tar.bz2
[05:04] <kelvinella> autohide unity bar is annoying because the unity bar is not sensitive
[05:04] <kelvinella> I will just leave it on there on the left
[05:04] <woot_> Rixter_: Terminal "cd /home/cgminer-2.10.4-x86_64-built"
[05:04] <woot_> already extracted
[05:04] <kelvinella> how to install skype?
[05:04] <Emanon> kelvinella: I think you can change the sensitivity in UnSettings.
[05:05] <Emanon> Just checked kelvinella You can.
[05:05] <RiXtEr> woot_, are you trying to build something?
[05:05] <kelvinella> no its ok now its fix i dont wanna install too many things to break things
[05:05] <RiXtEr> or is that the extracted binary?
[05:05] <woot_> Rixter_: I am
[05:05] <RiXtEr> woot_, you need the build-essentials package
[05:06] <Emanon> kelvinella: Skype may be in the default repositories try sudo apt-get install skype
[05:06] <kelvinella> Emanon, how to install skype?  its not in the ubuntu store anymore
[05:06] <RiXtEr> woot_, then generally you do a ./configure && make && make install.
[05:06] <Emanon> Oh my mistake I'll try to find a repo for it.
[05:07] <woot_> Rixter_: sudo apt-get install build-essentials?
[05:07] <RiXtEr> woot_, I think that is the correct package.
[05:07] <Emanon> kelvinella: Didn't find a repo yet but here's the direct download from skype.com http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[05:08] <woot_> Rixter_:thank you I'll give that a try
[05:08] <bazhang> Emanon, thats not correct, its in partner repo
[05:08] <bazhang> !info skype partner | kelvinella
[05:08] <Emanon> Thanks bazhang.
[05:08] <kelvinella> Emanon, hold on let me grab something to eat
[05:08] <bazhang> !partner | kelvinella
[05:09] <Emanon> kelvinella:  Listen to bazhang try the partner repository.
[05:12] <Basil1x> 12.10 on a Toshiba L755.  the sound works for a bit, then craps out.  everything insists sound is working, but there is no sound.  bog standard install.  HDMI port is unaffected, is internal speakers only that don't work.  Any help would be appreciated.
[05:12] <Emanon> Does anyone know how to remove entries from the Unity Dashboard?
[05:13] <Basil1x> right click, and select unlock from launcher?
[05:13] <Emanon> Not the launcher, the dash.
[05:13] <Emanon> Like when you hut super.
[05:14] <Emanon> hit*
[05:14] <Basil1x> hmmm... don't hit super
[05:14] <Emanon> Funny.
[05:14] <Basil1x> I mean I don't
[05:15] <LiquidSmoke>  anybody know how to get around the uefi bootloader to installl ubuntu?
[05:16] <kvothetech> LiquidSmoke: ?
[05:16] <^Phantom^> The 12.10 lubuntu livecd kernel doesn't support my laptop's hardware
[05:16] <Basil1x> 12.10 on a Toshiba L755.  the sound works for a bit, then craps out.  everything insists sound is working, but there is no sound.  bog standard install.  HDMI port is unaffected, is internal speakers only that don't work.  Any help would be appreciated.
[05:17] <^Phantom^> does this mean i won't be able to upgrade the linux kernel successfully when I update it?
[05:17] <SerenE_SparK> How can we create a Symlink in linux using java
[05:17] <^Phantom^> the 12.10 ubuntu kernel also didn't support it
[05:18] <Basil1x> Phantom... you could try installing Ubuntu, then 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop'
[05:19] <^Phantom^> every 'buntu version fails installing with the .10 version
[05:19] <^Phantom^> But it's okay, I went with lubuntu 12.04
[05:19] <dr_willis> 12.10 needs pae
[05:19] <^Phantom^> The laptop is old and will be replaced eventually
[05:19] <HWin_> yeah
[05:19] <^Phantom^> oh wow
[05:19] <^Phantom^> my laptop has a desktop pentium 4 cpu
[05:20] <dr_willis> there are non pae repos i hear
[05:20] <^Phantom^> lubuntu (and previously xubuntu) saved my laptop from windows xp
[05:20] <^Phantom^> it *crawled* with xp
[05:20] <Basil1x> as so many did
[05:21] <^Phantom^> tried windows 2000 but things broke horribly
[05:21] <^Phantom^> so i said screw it and went with xubuntu
[05:21] <^Phantom^> now i run lubuntu (it's lighter imo)
[05:21] <Emanon> I found the solution. The Unity dashboard stores its entries in /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications so you just delete the appropriate file from there to remove it from the dash.
[05:21] <WeThePeople> anybody know of a good free auto-responder to use for my list of customers?
[05:22] <lix_> Good day. - I have a Thunkpad X220 with a Mic/Headphones combo jack, which I don't know how to make it work with alsa(?) pulseaudio etc. the jack port works for the headphone part, but not the microphone. Searched ubuntuforums etc. but don't find a solution. - Any suggestion?
[05:23] <Basil1x> I'm having a similar problem, lix_
[05:23] <lix_> Basillx and no solution?
[05:23] <Emanon> Did you try changing your input source in the System Settings>Sound dialogue?
[05:24] <Basil1x> alsa does not like my sound hardware... odd, bcos I've used it since 10.10 with no problems until last week
[05:25] <lix> Basillx I have a "turn around", which is a tiny USB soundcard but would be nice to get the jack-combo port running...
[05:25] <lix> Basil1x mhmm
[05:25] <Emanon> Now, is there a keyboard combo to move a window from one screen to another in a multimonitor setup?
[05:27] <Basil1x> I think Win7 did something to my sound card with the latest updates that prevents it working reliably in 12.10
[05:27] <Basil1x> or 12.04 for that matter.
[05:28] <lix> Basil1x I think I just found something http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2011/11/29/turn-your-mic-jack-into-a-headphone-jack/
[05:30] <Basil1x> might work for you.
[05:30] <Basil1x> I fear I'm in for the complicated fix
[05:31] <Basil1x> or a switch to Fedora, which is a hateful thought... I hate their approach
[05:31] <threex5> could someone help me configure lirc to control volume?
[05:32] <threex5> or, if you're not familiar with lirc, i would like to know how to turn my master volume up, down, or toggle mute from command line
[05:35] <dr_willis> alsactrl command i think three
[05:35] <l057c0d3r> threex5, hmm alsamixer maybe
[05:35] <l057c0d3r> to view it in terminal at least...
[05:35] <threex5> isn't alsamixer graphical?
[05:36] <threex5> I didn't think you could send text commands to it
[05:36] <l057c0d3r> hmm good point
[05:36] <dr_willis> alsactrl has cli options
[05:36] <dr_willis> if i spelt it right
[05:37] <dr_willis> aha - its 'amixer'
[05:37] <Ben64> whats happening in 12 hours, 23 minutes?
[05:37] <dr_willis> checked the man pages. ;)
[05:38] <threex5> yeah amixer works, but
[05:38] <dr_willis> Ben64:  it will be lunch time here....
[05:38] <Ben64> dr_willis: ubuntu.com
[05:38] <dr_willis> alsactrl  can save the settings
[05:38] <dr_willis> Ben64:  someone asks about every 20 min...
[05:38] <Ben64> oh
[05:39] <dr_willis> Ben64:  we dont know.. some marketing hype i imagine
[05:39]  * dr_willis is cynical
[05:39] <threex5> amixer toggle mute doesn't work
[05:39] <threex5> it'll mute it but not unmute
[05:39] <Ben64> threex5: on="off"; off="on"; now=$(amixer get Master | tr -d '[]' | grep "Playback.*%" |head -n1 |awk '{print $6}'); amixer sset Master ${!now}
[05:39] <dr_willis> threex5:  ive seen bug reports on that
[05:39] <threex5> and when i started googling it i discovered this is a problem a number of people are having with no solution
[05:40] <Ben64> solution ^
[05:40] <threex5> thanks Ben64. The problem is that I'm trying to set commands in my .lircrc file
[05:40] <Ben64> you wanted command line stuff
[05:41] <Ben64> that works on it
[05:41] <threex5> so it asks you for the program you want to control, the command that you want triggered and the button that triggers it
[05:41] <threex5> ok i will give it a shot
[05:41] <zutme> Just did an install of Ubuntu Server 12.10, and there are some logical volumes still there on my disks from an old debian install. I'd like to remove them, but none of the standard commands are proving useful. Any way to blow them out quickly?
[05:41] <Ben64> I used to use that in a script to control my volume from my multimedia keys that weren't supported under 10.04
[05:42] <threex5> Ben64, the result is the same as a simple amixer set Master toggle
[05:43] <threex5> it will show [off] and [on] in the terminal but it doesn't actually unmute it
[05:43] <threex5> it mutes it though
[05:43] <Ben64> does it mute more than just the master
[05:50] <Dan39> hello, using 12.04 and connecting to xfce4 remote desktop with x2go. it pretty much all works, but stuff takes a very long time to show up, like the task bars will show up quickly, then the desktop background and icons takes another full minute to show up
[05:51] <ivotkl> Hello everyone. =)
[05:52] <ivotkl> I am trying to set a home server. Which would be the best hw parts for it? I'm trying it to be a low cost server and won't be on 24/7. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2100427
[05:52] <ivotkl> I also need help to configure it and to allow connections from other networks into it.
[05:53] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  depends on what its serving. most any pc can serve stuff
[05:53] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  i got a raspberryPi as my home server
[05:54] <ivotkl> dr_willis: Just for streaming / copying music, photos and movies.
[05:54] <dr_willis> most any pc can do that
[05:54] <ivotkl> And allow remote access by let's say... 3 people at the same time?
[05:54] <ivotkl> Like a terminal server.
[05:55] <wachpwn> Hey, I have a bunch of smbd processes in my ps aux list. Is that normal?
[05:55] <wachpwn> smbd -F
[05:56] <dr_willis> ssh access is not that intensive... depending on what they are running
[05:56] <dr_willis> get the most cpu/memory you can for the $$ ;)
[05:56] <ivotkl> I will use linux to get to it, but other houses will use windows.
[05:56] <Ben64> I like how the start time on all my processes now says "2012"
[05:57] <dr_willis> splurge on a ssd :)
[05:57] <ivotkl> I have worked extra hours to save some. I think I can get an A4 or A6 from AMD + 8GB RAM + MOBO + 1TB HDD. Is dedicated graphic card a must?
[05:57] <Dan39> im always having problems with NX on 12.04, its getting really annoying :|
[05:57] <Ben64> ivotkl: are you going to be using it as a computer
[05:57] <ivotkl> Ben64: Maybe.
[05:58] <ivotkl> How do you write in red? XD
[05:58] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  were not ;)
[05:58] <Ben64> when you type someones name the irc client usually makes it red for them
[05:58] <dr_willis> 1tb hd is tiny. ;)
[05:58] <ivotkl> Oh, cool.
[05:58] <Ben64> if you're just going to be using it as a server, it doesn't need much cpu at all
[05:58] <ivotkl> But I'm not Rockefeller and prices are a bit high where I'm at (Argentina).
[05:59] <Ben64> like dr_willis said, raspberry pi would work as a home server
[05:59] <Ben64> $35
[05:59] <dr_willis> you could some old old pc as a decent server
[05:59] <ivotkl> Never heard of it Raspberry pi.
[05:59] <wachpwn> raspberry pi?
[05:59] <ivotkl> If it is hardware might be restricted here.
[05:59] <dr_willis> my pi does ushare/dlna ssh, and runs xbmc for the wife
[05:59] <Ben64> very small linux computer
[05:59] <wachpwn> Isn't that a python framework?
[05:59] <Ben64> http://www.raspberrypi.org/
[06:00] <ivotkl> Oh, like DSL? (Stands for D*mn Small Linux)
[06:00] <dr_willis> pi can run different distros and os's
[06:00] <kelvinella> Please install the Extension Pack from the VirtualBox download site. After this you will be able to re-enable USB 2.0. It will be disabled in the meantime unless you cancel the current settings changes. ??
[06:00] <kelvinella> how to do that?
[06:00] <ivotkl> like virtualbox?
[06:00] <Ben64> I have debian on my pi
[06:00] <dr_willis> pi is a small cheap arm based pc.
[06:00] <Ben64> I use it as a media center
[06:01] <ivotkl> About HW, I wouldn't like it to be too old fashioned as I might use it as terminal server as well.
[06:01] <Emanon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
[06:01] <kelvinella> VirtualBox is not currently allowed to access USB devices. You can change this by adding your user to the 'vboxusers' group. Please see the user manual for a more detailed explanation. ??
[06:01] <kelvinella> how to add user to vboxusers group?
[06:02] <ivotkl> Emanon: Are you kidding? That's a whole computer?
[06:02] <dr_willis> ivotkl: why would we kid
[06:02] <dr_willis> i got 2 of them.
[06:02] <dr_willis> need 4  more
[06:02] <Ben64> I want more of em
[06:02] <Ben64> shipping prices kind of suck
[06:02] <ivotkl> dr_willis: dunno. =P Looks like a robotic module. Too tiny. It's like a space-saving dream coming true. =P
[06:02] <dr_willis> and long waits
[06:03] <Ben64> I built a lego case for mine
[06:03] <dr_willis> its not an intel based pc. ;)
[06:03] <dr_willis> i cant find m y legos.. so i used wood
[06:03] <Ben64> Also, if I get a second one, it'd be 512MB memory
[06:03] <Ben64> dr_willis: got any pics?
[06:04] <dr_willis> Ben64:  its a wooden gift box i wittled with a xacto knife ;)
[06:04] <ivotkl> I can get here in my country some 512MB Raspberries.
[06:04] <ivotkl> http://listado.mercadolibre.com.ar/mini-computador-raspberry-pi-%28model-b%29_PciaId_Capital-Federal
[06:04] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  so most any pc can work as a server.. depending on the details of what its serving
[06:04] <ivotkl> site is similar as bestbuy.
[06:05] <dr_willis> pi's are nifty in some uses
[06:05] <ivotkl> dr_willis: ok, and how about serving as a terminal? I think it requires more powerful HW for that.
[06:05] <Ben64> ivotkl: that is $244 USD?
[06:06] <ivotkl> Ben64: Should be.
[06:06] <ivotkl> Lemme see.
[06:06] <Ben64> that's way way too much
[06:06] <ivotkl> I know. =P
[06:06] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  i ssh into my pi from my cell phone
[06:07] <dr_willis> pi should be like $35 us
[06:07] <ivotkl> It is actually 153 USD if I take official average price of USD here.
[06:07] <dr_willis> someone is ripping someone off...
[06:08] <Ben64> yep
[06:08] <ivotkl> Well, I'm in Argentina. They take advantage of us and we have USD restrictions similar to the ones in Venezuela.
[06:08] <Ben64> RS delivers to Argentina
[06:08] <ivotkl> RS?
[06:08] <ivotkl> Ben64: ink please?
[06:08] <ivotkl> Ben64: *link please?
[06:08] <Ben64> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
[06:08] <ivotkl> dr_willis: I would like to install ubuntu on my phone. Which are the minimum specs and how do I do it?
[06:09] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  as far as i know you use one of those vm things to put linux in a vm on your rooted phone
[06:09] <dr_willis> they are in the android market
[06:10] <dr_willis> or you find a custom rom for your phone
[06:10] <ivotkl> dr_willis: Could you create a basic howto or refer me to one?
[06:10] <b1tgl0w> Are there any programs to manipulate console output already sent to std::out? Use case: I forgot to send output to log, want to search output
[06:10] <dr_willis> ivotkl:  not really. see the android market apps/links
[06:11] <dr_willis> ive not seen a phone run ubuntu natively yet.
[06:11] <Artemis3> ivotkl what restrictions? and why would these people even know about the restrictions in venezuela?
[06:11] <ivotkl> dr_willis: Does it mean I have to sort of jailbreak it?
[06:11] <ivotkl> Artemis3: I was just saying. =P
[06:12] <ivotkl> To explain it better, I cannot buy USD anymore just because I want to. It has been restricted. =P
[06:12] <ivotkl> To travelling only.
[06:12] <Artemis3> ivotkl, and online purchases?
[06:12] <ivotkl> Artemis3: And you cannot even change whatever you want.
[06:12] <Ben64> don't need USD to buy a raspberry pi, they're UK based
[06:12] <ivotkl> And you cannot even change whatever you want.
[06:12] <ivotkl> It's the same for any currency.
[06:13] <Artemis3> ivotkl, you can't to any online purchases in foreign currency?
[06:13] <ivotkl> I can.
[06:13] <ivotkl> Artemis3: I can.
[06:13] <Artemis3> ivotkl, are you limited somehow?
[06:13] <ivotkl> Artemis3: Online purchases bought with CC are  subject to a 15% recharge, but it has not happened to me yet and I have bought some apps on Apple's AppStore
[06:14] <ivotkl> Artemis3: Economically, not that much. I can always save and make some overtime.
[06:14] <Artemis3> ivotkl, the limit is 400$ here...
[06:14] <ivotkl> And I could charge it to my CC and bank would convert it to ARS.
[06:14] <ivotkl> Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, you are from Venezuela. =B
[06:14] <ivotkl> Sorry.
[06:14] <Artemis3> :P
[06:14] <ivotkl> I cannot buy it unless I go on a trip.
[06:15] <ivotkl> And I believe I have to use them on the trip, unless I save them.
[06:15] <Artemis3> ivotkl, incidentally, new year means fresh 400$ quota
[06:15] <ivotkl> Oh, that's why a lot of Ven ppl go to US?
[06:15] <ivotkl> Not here.
[06:15] <ivotkl> It works differently here.
[06:15] <Artemis3> ivotkl, because there is a bigger quota for travelling
[06:15] <Artemis3> ivotkl, so you are much better :P
[06:16] <ivotkl> Artemis3: Oh, ok. Now back to Rasp...
[06:16] <ivotkl> (No offence BTW) =P
[06:16] <ivotkl> would it work as terminal server?
[06:16] <Artemis3> ivotkl, and the pi is like 25$, so not important, its when you need something above 400$ where the problem starts
[06:16] <dr_willis> theres the #raspberrypi channel
[06:16] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:16] <ivotkl> Oh, sorry. =P
[06:17] <ivotkl> not connecting. =P
[06:19] <ivotkl> raspberrypi channel, I can't join
[06:19] <wachpwn> so I just did a reboot on my ubuntu server
[06:19] <wachpwn> anything ssh/ssl is not working now
[06:19] <wachpwn> http:// works but https:// doesnt, ssh doesnt work
[06:20] <wachpwn> It's a remote box, am I screwed right now?
[06:21] <ivotkl> dr_willis: Could you point me to an android app which is Ubuntu OS? I could only find an app which emulates it and a Remote. Was that remote control you were talking when you said you used your phone to control you Rasp?
[06:21] <Ben64> look up your phone on xda-developers or something
[06:22] <Noskcaj> ivotkl, xda-devs or ask on #ubuntu-arm
[06:22] <OerHeks> rasp-pi is arm 6, ubuntu only runs on arm 7 AFAIK
[06:23] <Noskcaj> OerHeks, that is correct. you will need to do some stuff your own to get ubuntu-arm working
[06:23] <OerHeks> if you can't join  #raspberrypi the error is you need to be registered
[06:23] <OerHeks> !register
[06:24] <Emanon> ivoqb: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid&hl=en Maybe? or was that the "emulation" you were referring to?
[06:25] <lemonsparrow> I just created a new user and I want to make it a sudo user. how can I make it ?
[06:25] <ivotkl> Emanon: It is not.
[06:25] <ivotkl> I think it is better than the one I found.
[06:26] <ivotkl> What does " P.O.A. " mean on the Rasp website when ordering?
[06:26] <ivotkl> Out of stock?
[06:26] <Emanon> Pay on Arrival maybe?
[06:26] <Emanon> idk really.
[06:26] <somsip> ivotkl: Price On Application
[06:26] <computer> how do i find out if my system is running 32 or 64 bit?
[06:26] <Emanon> Ahh that sounds better.
[06:26] <Random832> lemonsparrow: adduser username admin
[06:26] <Noskcaj> computer, what os?
[06:27] <computer> xubuntu
[06:27] <ivotkl> computer: uname -a should do it I think.
[06:27] <Noskcaj> computer, open terminal, type "arch"
[06:27] <ivotkl> Nice trick Noskcaj, it is easier. =P
[06:27] <computer> thanks
[06:27] <jussi> hry, I didnt know about arch, thats nice to have
[06:27] <ivotkl> Yup, did not know that either.
[06:28] <Noskcaj> ivotkl, no problem. you normally have to buy rasberries of a reseller
[06:28] <ivotkl> somsip: what does that mean then? Order first, get the price later?
[06:28] <OerHeks> to see if you cpu is capable> lscpu
[06:28] <ivotkl> !register
[06:29] <somsip> ivotkl: it possibly means they cannot guarantee the final price in all countries due to exchange rates, postage charges, customs charges, etc
[06:29] <ivotkl> somsip: Might it go higher than 153 USD?
[06:30] <somsip> ivotkl: too many variables affect the price wheverever you are, and this discussion is off topic
[06:30] <MyLittleBronco> Hi all.
[06:30] <Noskcaj> ivotkl, no. but please change to -arm
[06:31] <Noskcaj> MyLittleBronco, helllo
[06:31] <ivotkl> -arm
[06:31] <ivotkl> Do you mean #arm?
[06:31] <MyLittleBronco> Hey, Noskcaj.
[06:32] <Noskcaj> ivotkl, #ubuntu-arm
[06:32]  * MyLittleBronco extends an arm.
[06:32] <ivotkl> thanks
[06:33] <ivotkl> any hardware channel?
[06:34] <MyLittleBronco> Lots of participants. I wonder how many are zombies.
[06:35] <MyLittleBronco> Go to http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode and do a search to find a hardware channel
[06:35] <OerHeks> !alis
[06:36] <CookieM> definitely not me
[06:37] <katymoneyperry> wolud someone be willing to teamview me and help me setup a bridged connection in virtualbox from win 7 to ubuntu 12.04
[06:37] <MyLittleBronco> As long as they don't start eating brains, it's fine.
[06:39] <katymoneyperry> so
[06:39] <MyLittleBronco> Katy, if you are trying to get networking to work in the guest client, it's best to use the default settings. Any actual hardware connections should be done on the host.
[06:39] <katymoneyperry> ok
[06:39] <kylescottmcgill> wachpwn: did you get it get sorted?
[06:39] <wachpwn> kylescottmcgill: nope
[06:40] <kylescottmcgill> sudo apt-get install openssl openssh
[06:40] <katymoneyperry> well give meh sometime and we can see how this goes
[06:40] <kylescottmcgill> openssh will be either client or server sorry
[06:40] <kylescottmcgill> that should fix your https and your ssh
[06:40] <wachpwn> kylescottmcgill: It was working. I just did a reboot, now my box is saying no route to host.
[06:40] <katymoneyperry> i am making a 128 GB vd 60gb for swap 60 gb for hdd
[06:41] <kylescottmcgill> wachpwn: is your box sitting somewhere remotely?
[06:41] <wachpwn> kylescottmcgill: yes
[06:41] <kylescottmcgill> wachpwn: sounds like either the openssh daemon isnt starting, or the box isnt booting, do you have a control panel you can login to and reboot from there?
[06:41] <wachpwn> I think I just hosed myself with that reboot. I can access the http server on it
[06:42] <MyLittleBronco> Katy, you don't need that much swap space.
[06:42] <wachpwn> but not the https vhost
[06:42] <kylescottmcgill> wachpwn: some hosts dont work when you reboot the box internally
[06:42] <katymoneyperry> for building android i do and i only allowed 1 gb of real ram for the vm
[06:43] <katymoneyperry> only have 4gb real ram
[06:43] <aridhol> Evening, I have a strange issue with mounting an NFS share via fstab. I am running 11.10, 3.0 kernel (just updated) and the NFS share mounts if I do it manually or via mount -a. It does not mount on bootup and no mount or nfs error is shown in dmesg (i did dmesg | grep nfs and dmesg | grep mount). my fstab line is host:/share /mountpoint nfs _netdev,auto,rw,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 Any suggestions welcome
[06:43] <Noskcaj> katymoneyperry, then buy more, its cheap
[06:43] <kylescottmcgill> wachpwn: if you can access http sites on your server that at least means you have access to the box, and its on, sounds like your ssh daemon isnt running, can you ssh -v username@domain.com
[06:43] <kylescottmcgill> wachpwn: the -v flag will give you a little more information on whats going on
[06:45] <wachpwn> kylescottmcgill: let me pm you
[06:45] <kylescottmcgill> kk
[06:45] <pats_Toms> someone can help me to fix my sound? I have linux mint what is based on ubuntu. Maybe someone have any idea :/
[06:46] <somsip> !mint | pats_Toms
[06:46] <katymoneyperry> can only hold 8 gb of ram in laptop need at least 16 gb for building
[06:46] <tiox> somsip: That chanell is barren!
[06:46] <tiox> He'd have better luck going to #linux-mint on this server
[06:46] <pats_Toms> no one really helps there ubottu
[06:47] <somsip> tiox: then maybe that's a good suggestion for you to put to him
[06:47] <Noskcaj> katymoneyperry, oh, at least upgrade then
[06:48] <wht> hi all
[06:50] <MyLittleBronco> Unless you have a custom setup, it's best to use pulseaudio and Alsa for Debian/Ubuntu derivatives. Beyond that, the linuxmint-help is best.
[06:51] <MyLittleBronco> Hi, wht or  what?
[06:54] <magbatz>  /msg NickServ REGISTER silvery, magbatz@hotmail.com
[06:54] <magbatz> well did that just happen
[06:54] <pats_Toms> yes :d
[06:54] <katymoneyperry> yea
[06:54] <weby> haha
[06:54] <weby> smoof.
[06:54] <MyLittleBronco> Does anyone use postfix? I'm just curious how it's working.
[06:54] <magbatz> time to go burn my computer
[06:54] <beethoven8201> postfix is nice
[06:54] <beethoven8201> hard to setup
[06:54] <beethoven8201> I just played around with it
[06:55] <beethoven8201> not running a serious mail server
[06:55] <beethoven8201> where's the windows 8 channel here? is there one?
[06:55] <MyLittleBronco> I was trying to set up my local network.
[06:55] <MyLittleBronco> Windows 8?
[06:55] <katymoneyperry> MyLittleBronco: would i want to use bridged or nat
[06:56] <beethoven8201> yeah windows 8, lol
[06:56] <MyLittleBronco> Probably nat.
[06:56] <katymoneyperry> ok
[06:56] <beethoven8201> I kind of want a tablet
[06:56] <beethoven8201> not sure which to get
[06:56] <beethoven8201> all of them seem to suck
[06:56] <MyLittleBronco> I think.
[06:56] <beethoven8201> and linux on tablets seems bad
[06:56] <katymoneyperry> nah get ipad mini
[06:56] <katymoneyperry> kicks arse
[06:56] <beethoven8201> I need an x86/64 tablet
[06:57] <MyLittleBronco> Get a Google tablet.
[06:57] <beethoven8201> or rather what I really need is a laptop that's super tiny with a hardware keyboard
[06:57] <magbatz> hey hey
[06:57] <beethoven8201> I was looking at the sony vaio tablets
[06:57] <beethoven8201> the duo series
[06:57] <beethoven8201> sliders
[06:58] <aridhol> anyone have a clue about my fstab & nfs problem? google has failed me
[06:58] <beethoven8201> google tablets run android right?
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> beethoven8201: yes
[06:58] <MyLittleBronco> sorry, aridhol
[06:58] <beethoven8201> I need something more robust
[06:58] <beethoven8201> since I will need to be able to code on it, run eclipse, yadayada
[06:58] <beethoven8201> probably run a vm or two
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> beethoven8201: what is there really though? your options now are iOS or android
[06:59] <beethoven8201> there are w8 tablets
[06:59] <ivotkl> see you guys, I'm going to sleeep.
[07:00] <ivotkl> Thank you. =)
[07:00] <prishabh> what is this 11hours thing http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[07:00] <somsip> prishabh: there will be an announcement
[07:00] <katymoneyperry> MyLittleBronco: the more swap the more the compiler will use to build = faster build time correct
[07:01] <MyLittleBronco> I'd go for at least a full size laptop. Then set up virtual desktop to do what you want on a tablet.
[07:01] <prishabh> somsip: so we are not allowed to know before that ends?
[07:01] <MyLittleBronco> or remote desktop.
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> prishabh: that's the idea
[07:01] <prishabh> wow
[07:01] <prishabh> maybe 13.04
[07:02] <MyLittleBronco> They really need to slow down on the upgrades and work on the bugs.
[07:02] <MyLittleBronco> Maybe even start releasing that hard to find software and missing libraries.
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> MyLittleBronco: but new releases include bug fixes...
[07:03] <MyLittleBronco> Some, yes.
[07:03] <somsip> prishabh: it's a press announcement. It's how thigs work in business
[07:05] <MyLittleBronco> Yes, more people are going with the Ubuntu server, most jumping ship from Microsoft.
[07:05] <katymoneyperry> i need weed
[07:05] <Emanon> I'd like to see Cannonical come out and say "this release we're not changing one single solitary thing about the UI we are just making it work better on devices for which support has been lacking".
[07:06] <persony> Hi there, new install of ubuntu 12.10, on an ASUS N56VZ laptop. I have a USB mouse, which I have to unplug and replug back in a crap ton of times, in order for it to function / initialize. The mouse is new, and works fine on Windows. Any help is appreciated (quite annoying) every restart, the mouse stops working.
[07:06] <Emanon> Or "this release we're making noveau work properly so you can replace the proprietary drivers with it without sacrificing functionality."
[07:06] <MyLittleBronco> I'd still like to see more support libraries. I'm tired of getting dependency issues about missing libraries while trying to install programs.
[07:07] <MyLittleBronco> Persony, I think your Asus and USB mouse are blacklisted.
[07:07] <katymoneyperry> MyLittleBronco: does ubuntu 12.04 support EFI
[07:07] <mini-HOWTO> signoff
[07:08] <mini-HOWTO> q
[07:08] <persony> MyLittleBronco: why would it be blacklisted?
[07:08] <MyLittleBronco> Don't check EFI. That's only for certain Macs.
[07:08] <sexxxy> hi
[07:09] <sexxxy> anyone use nagios and nrpe?
[07:09] <katymoneyperry> ok
[07:09] <MyLittleBronco> Hi, sexxxy.
[07:09] <theos> hi all! my touchpad stopped working suddenly after i log in. it works fine before till the login screen comes. how can i solve this problem? please help!!
[07:09] <theos> -before
[07:10] <sexxxy> how would I get nrpe to connect back to the nagios server instead of the nagios server connecting to nrpe?
[07:10] <ecthiender> theos, what do you mean stopped working? what happens after the login screen?
[07:11] <theos> ecthiender after logging in, the pointer just hangs at the position it was at before logging in. no buttons work
[07:11] <MyLittleBronco> Theos, if it worked before even after log in, you need to undo whatever you did. Usually messing with conf files or installing unsupported software will cause hardware to stop working.
[07:11] <theos> MyLittleBronco i just pressed the on/off button :/
[07:12] <katymoneyperry> MyLittleBronco: booting ubuntu
[07:12] <katymoneyperry> for install
[07:12] <ecthiender> theos, what display manager do you use?
[07:12] <theos> i pressed the touchpad enable/disable button by mistake. and it stopped working since
[07:13] <djono> hello ive just installed vlc on lubuntu and i cant find it in my menu any ideas?
[07:13] <MyLittleBronco>  If you dual boot, boot into Windows and press the button to turn it on again.
[07:14] <theos> ecthiender GDM
[07:15] <theos> MyLittleBronco deleted windows long back :)
[07:15] <ecthiender> theos, something wrong with your gdm settings?
[07:15] <MyLittleBronco> djono, press Alt-F2 and type vlc and it will run. You need to edit you menu to add it if it's not there.
[07:15] <katymoneyperry> MyLittleBronco: http://gyazo.com/1c12c68c84f0041b3d55b95c3676280f
[07:15] <katymoneyperry> it's a pic
[07:16] <djono> how to exit apt-get
[07:16] <katymoneyperry> screenshot
[07:16] <theos> ecthiender any way to reset touchpad settings? i donno whats wrong. everything else seems fine
[07:16] <MyLittleBronco> You don't exit apt-get. You wait until it's finished.
[07:17] <katymoneyperry> so is it fine
[07:17] <ecthiender> theos, I dont know.
[07:17] <MyLittleBronco> unless it's doing something you don't want it to.
[07:18] <theos> ecthiender after everything failed, i am using proto=exps to make the mouse work. if that helps
[07:18] <MyLittleBronco> katy, it should be fine.
[07:19] <ecthiender> theos, so you are saying after logging in you are able to work? (make the mouse work?)
[07:20] <theos> ecthiender yes only after giving the options in modprobe conf. not by default. and its limited to movement of pointer. no scrolling
[07:20] <ecthiender> theos, oh! so you are able to log in, only your mouse doesn't work?
[07:21] <theos> ecthiender heh yes. thats the problem. the touchpad isnt working
[07:21] <ecthiender> theos, sorry then. i thought your system froze. undo the changes in modprobe.conf
[07:21] <theos> ecthiender then the mouse stops working again. i tried
[07:21] <katymoneyperry> does it look like it's connected btw not my real ip http://gyazo.com/11f3aa5b895d0a200ca5f6b6fd2fcaad
[07:21] <ecthiender> theos, and try this: sudo modprobe -r psmouse
[07:21] <ecthiender> and then sudo modprobe psmouse
[07:22] <theos> ecthiender i tried that. doesnt work without those options
[07:22] <ecthiender> after logging in. type that in a terminal.
[07:22] <nearst> hii
[07:22] <MyLittleBronco> hi, nearst
[07:22] <ecthiender> you have synaptic touchpad?
[07:22] <mini-HOWTO> hey
[07:23] <theos> ecthiender yes PS/2 synaptic touchpad
[07:23] <ecthiender> theos, any existing bugs? did you check in launchpad?
[07:23] <ecthiender> mini-HOWTO, hey :)
[07:24] <theos> ecthiender donno. i will check. but pressing the on/off button on the touchpad shouldnt disable the touchpad :/
[07:24] <MyLittleBronco> Hay's for horses, they eat it, and you know what that makes. ;)
[07:25] <theos> isnt there a reset option for touchpad settings?
[07:26]  * MyLittleBronco dislikes douchy bras, and makes a grimace.
[07:26] <computer> how do i make vlc my default player? using xubuntu
[07:26] <MathSquare> humm
[07:26] <MathSquare> one
[07:26] <Noskcaj> computer, !xubuntu
[07:26] <Noskcaj> !xubuntu
[07:27] <MyLittleBronco> Great, ad bots?
[07:27] <MathSquare> cp /usr/share/app-install/desktop/vlc\:clementine.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/vlc.desktop
[07:27] <ecthiender> theos, I honestly dont know. someone else here might know.
[07:27] <J0seph> Hello world
[07:27] <Noskcaj> !botsnack | MyLittleBronco
[07:27] <MathSquare> Hello
[07:28] <ecthiender> theos, what machine are you using?
[07:28] <theos> ok thanks ecthiender
[07:28] <theos> ecthiender i am using an hp dv7 laptop
[07:28] <ecthiender> np
[07:28] <computer> math, that was for me right?
[07:28] <MyLittleBronco> !kubuntu !kubuntu
[07:28] <Noskcaj> MyLittleBronco, lolol
[07:29] <MathSquare> Do anyone know how to get / add in to code dodge windows into unity 6.10.0( Ubuntu 12.10 )
[07:29] <Noskcaj> try
[07:29] <Noskcaj> !kubuntu | !kubuntu
[07:29] <MyLittleBronco> KDE rules, Unity drools.
[07:29] <MathSquare> no i like unity
[07:29] <MathSquare> because i like the global menu
[07:30] <Noskcaj> unity is good just my shit laptop cant run it
[07:30] <MathSquare> ok
[07:30] <MathSquare> Do anyone know how to get dodge windows
[07:30] <MathSquare> 12.10
[07:30] <MyLittleBronco> I think I've been running KDE since  you've been in diapers, MathSquare.
[07:31] <MathSquare> add into the code
[07:31] <MathSquare> humm
[07:31] <Noskcaj> MyLittleBronco, kde is from 1995 it think, how old is MathSquare
[07:31] <MathSquare> 13
[07:31] <MathSquare> and i had been useing linux since 2010
[07:31] <somsip> !ot
[07:32] <MathSquare> and been prgraming since 2009 on windows
[07:32] <MathSquare> and i
[07:32] <MyLittleBronco> I used RedHat 6 when it was new.
[07:32] <MathSquare> wow
[07:32] <MathSquare> i like unity
[07:32] <Noskcaj> MathSquare, stop slightly showing me up in every way. MyLittleBronco point taken
[07:32] <Noskcaj> you are very old
[07:33] <somsip> And now it's time to stop please.
[07:33] <persony> MyLittleBronco: you mentioned you think my laptop and mouse are blacklisted, why would it be?
[07:33] <MyLittleBronco> Not old, experienced.
[07:33] <Noskcaj> no, old
[07:33]  * MyLittleBronco steps off his soapbox and stops.
[07:33] <MyLittleBronco> Driver issues, persony.
[07:34] <user94202> Random screensavers are not working in kde. All i get is a black screen. Any ideas?
[07:34] <MathSquare> Remove the diver
[07:34] <MyLittleBronco> I also have been reading the blacklists.
[07:34] <Noskcaj> !kubuntu | user94202,
[07:34] <theos> !touchpad | theos
[07:35] <MyLittleBronco> user, check your video drivers and try using Xscreensaver instead.
[07:35] <MathSquare> Hey Do anyone have any idea to get dodge windows onto 12.10
[07:36] <MyLittleBronco> I don't use dodge windows; I have a hard enough time keeping them where they belong. :O
[07:36] <MathSquare> or add it in though code
[07:36] <MathSquare> humm
[07:37] <MyLittleBronco> Sorry, that was a no, MathSquare.
[07:37] <MathSquare> ok
[07:38] <MathSquare> I just don't understand why they remove it do you
[07:38] <MathSquare> ?
[07:38] <MyLittleBronco> That's why I like KDE. Everything is in System Settings.
[07:38] <MathSquare> I hate KDE Buggy for me
[07:39] <MathSquare> But i hate windows more
[07:39] <Noskcaj> MathSquare, what do you mean dodge windows?
[07:39] <MyLittleBronco> Yea, it kept crashing until I changed my video driver.
[07:39] <MathSquare> unity option
[07:40] <MyLittleBronco> It's actually an old gnome option, too.
[07:40] <djono> hello all i cant seem to find wine in the lubuntu software center
[07:40] <MyLittleBronco> It's supposed to make your windows move out of the way somehow.
[07:41] <MyLittleBronco> sudo apt-get update
[07:41] <Noskcaj> DJones, just use synaptic
[07:41] <katymoneyperry> MyLittleBronco: now this i where imma need ya to teamview me after i install teamviewer which idk how to do that
[07:41] <katymoneyperry> LINUX n00b ;)
[07:41] <MyLittleBronco> sudo apt-get install wine1.5
[07:42] <MyLittleBronco> Or open Software Center and search for wine.
[07:42] <djono> isnt wine on 1.6 now?
[07:42] <djono> in the software center it doesnt exist
[07:43] <MyLittleBronco> I guess it is 1.6. I install 1.5 and left it alone.
[07:43] <djono> also i cannot find mono-complete as well
[07:44] <katymoneyperry> how you do apt-get for teamviewer 8
[07:44] <MyLittleBronco> You need to get the deb from the website, or install the xpi if you have Firefox.
[07:44] <katymoneyperry> howdo i do the xpi i have ff built in
[07:45] <djono> ok mylittlebronco i just found them on synaptic
[07:45] <MyLittleBronco> Sorry, that was for dnono.
[07:46] <djono> i get the message Lubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release i386 (20121017.1)
[07:46] <djono> in drive /media/cdrom/
[07:46] <djono> i have to insert a disk?
[07:46] <MyLittleBronco> It's easier to use Synaptic to install programs.
[07:47] <djono> its trying to download wine but i get message insert disk Lubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release i386 (20121017.1)
[07:47] <djono> in drive /media/cdrom/
[07:47] <MyLittleBronco> It's looking for your disc because it's listed in your sources.
[07:47] <katymoneyperry> brb gonna login here thru ubuntu
[07:49] <nearst> cls
[07:49] <djono> ok thanks mylittlebronco i took the cdrom source out and its downloading
[07:50]  * nearst ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.4 (x86) ** OS: Error Code 2 ** CPU: Error Code 2 (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 1526 MB Total (946 MB Free) ** VGA: Error Code 2 ** Uptime: 3.72 Hours **
[07:51] <nearst> why my box blinking at boot?
[07:52] <MyLittleBronco> Here's a fun one. Why does my system keep trying to install OSS4 when Ubuntu doesn't support it? This is going to mean another apt-purge and reboot to get sound working after OSS4 kills it.
[07:52] <MyLittleBronco> I meant apt-get purge. oops
[07:52] <MyLittleBronco> Your box?
[07:53] <TheRouf> Hello guys, just a question. On 12.10 64bit, compiz won't keep the commands I put in the compizconfig settings panel, after I reboot. Any ideas?
[07:53] <nearst> ya. eeepc 901.
[07:53] <Eagleman> In which order does apache2 loads the HTTPS section ( i have to know which one is the default one )
[07:54] <KAtyPerRy> back
[07:54] <nearst> default is 80, other is 443 or any other port define
[07:54] <MyLittleBronco> Alt-F2, gtksu compizconfig, Enter
[07:55] <TheRouf> tnx MyLittleBronco
[07:56] <Eagleman> In which order does apache2 loads the HTTPS section ( i have to know which one is the default one ), i want to know this becuase of NameBasedSSLVHostsWithSNI
[07:57] <MyLittleBronco> Muon is messed up!
[08:00] <MathSquare> hello
[08:00] <MyLittleBronco> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libpq5_9.1.7-0ubuntu12.10_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[08:00] <MyLittleBronco>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libpq.so.5', which is also in package postgresql-libs-32bit 8.4.7-1.2
[08:00] <MyLittleBronco> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:00] <MyLittleBronco>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libpq5_9.1.7-0ubuntu12.10_amd64.deb
[08:00] <MyLittleBronco> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:00] <FloodBot1> MyLittleBronco: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <MyLittleBronco> Any thoughts?
[08:02] <MathSquare> hey Can anyone help me with unity
[08:03] <MathSquare> hey Can anyone help me with unity
[08:03] <MathSquare> Dodge windows
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> MathSquare: don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:03] <crk> yes, MathSquare : don't use it :P
[08:03]  * crk throws in his two cents
[08:03]  * aeon-ltd grabs two cents on the floor
[08:04] <MyLittleBronco> I just got a tsk, tsk from Floodbot1
[08:04] <MathSquare> ok can you help me add dodge windows back into unity 6.10 (ubuntu 12.10)
[08:04] <MathSquare> can anyone help me add dodge windows back into unity 6.10 (ubuntu 12.10)
[08:04] <Ben64> !patience | MathSquare
[08:05] <MathSquare> I try AskUbuntu
[08:05] <MathSquare> Fossfreedom keep closing my question
[08:05] <MathSquare> on askubuntu
[08:06] <Mongolski> hej
[08:06] <MathSquare> he say it is a repeat but i ask on 12.04 but that way doen't work on 12.10
[08:06] <MathSquare> ok can you help me add dodge windows back into unity 6.10 (ubuntu 12.10)
[08:06] <MathSquare> ok can you help me add dodge windows back into unity 6.10 (ubuntu 12.10)
[08:07] <KAtyPerRy> MyLittleBronco: well i am ready for your wonderful help
[08:07] <MathSquare> ok can you help me add dodge windows back into unity 6.10 (ubuntu 12.10)
[08:07] <MyLittleBronco> Any ops here?
[08:07] <Ben64> MathSquare: stop repeating
[08:07] <MathSquare> ok
[08:08] <helmut_> hi
[08:08] <MathSquare> hi
[08:08] <KAtyPerRy> MyLittleBronco: imma query you
[08:08] <MyLittleBronco> or mods?
[08:09] <Ben64> !pm | KAtyPerRy
[08:09] <nearst> lol
[08:09] <KAtyPerRy> ok
[08:09] <KAtyPerRy> well i need help setting up to build android
[08:10] <Ben64> KAtyPerRy: this is an ubuntu channel, not android
[08:10] <KAtyPerRy> ok i stfu
[08:11] <KAtyPerRy> #android
[08:11] <nearst> what nobodeset in grub cmdline do ?
[08:11] <nearst> *nomodeset
[08:11] <MyLittleBronco> That's /join #android
[08:12] <MyLittleBronco> or maybe, android-dev, or android-develop
[08:13] <MyLittleBronco> It means don't mess with grub unless you want to reinstall your system.
[08:13] <Ben64> !nomodeset | nearst
[08:14] <nearst> Ben64, ty. i forgot to call ubottu.
[08:17] <MyLittleBronco>  It's rough when you forget which packages you installed with dpkg.
[08:18] <Eagleman> In which order does apache2 loads the HTTPS section ( i have to know which one is the default one ), i want to know this becuase of NameBasedSSLVHostsWithSNI
[08:20] <MyLittleBronco> My status bar says, "Downloading 45647 of 45753 in All Mail." Ugh.
[08:21] <MyLittleBronco> I think maybe I have too much mail.
[08:22] <KAtyPerRy> how to install google talk in ubuntu
[08:22] <nearst> u may use pidgin as alternative
[08:23] <somsip> Eagleman: you would probably be better asking in #apache given you have been asking in here for a while
[08:24] <mah454> Hello
[08:25] <mah454> in ubuntu kubuntu 12.10  ,  I have this dependency "kdelibs5"  , but can not find this package in repository ~!
[08:25] <mah454> in ubuntu kubuntu 12.10 , I have this dependency "kdelibs5" , but can not find this package in repository !
[08:26] <Eagleman> somsip it differs per distribution
[08:26] <somsip> mah454: kdelibs-bin perhaps?
[08:27] <mah454> somsip:  I want to install this package : sflphone-client-kde
[08:27] <mah454> somsip: this : sflphone-client-kde
[08:27] <mah454> https://launchpad.net/~savoirfairelinux/+archive/ppa
[08:28] <MyLittleBronco> Try sudo apt-get install kdelibs*
[08:28] <somsip> mah454: you really want to install a package that failed to build...good luck.
[08:29] <MyLittleBronco> What were you trying to install?
[08:29] <somsip> Eagleman: fair enough. I've just seen you asking for a while now so thought I'd mention it.
[08:29] <Bowbles> I would like to take an existing Ubuntu 12.04 install, which is on a single drive, and then create a raid 6 array from some other drives in the system, and migrate everything over, so that I can boot from the raid 6 array and completely remove the existing single drive. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:30] <ikonia> Bowbles: the concept is pretty easy, there are a few little niggles
[08:31] <somsip> mah454: ah - i see it was just natty that failed.
[08:31] <MyLittleBronco> RAID Tools, but I don't know the package name. You can dd the image of your drive.
[08:31] <Bowbles> ikonia: yeah the concept seems super easy
[08:32] <Bowbles> but then I keep getting stuck on stuff
[08:32] <Bowbles> and I feel like I must be missing some basic procedure
[08:32] <ikonia> Bowbles: 1.) make raid array 2.) copy data across (taking care with permissions) 3.) fix some file issues 4.) re-apply grub
[08:32] <ikonia> Bowbles: that's the high level process,
[08:33] <ikonia> Bowbles: the details are 1.) consider putting /boot on a seperate non-raid partition to make life easy 2.) change your /etc/fstab and grub config files 3.) apply grub to the MBR of the of the physical disk - not the raid array
[08:33] <MyLittleBronco> Well, it's 3:30 a.m. here. Time for bed. Zzzzz
[08:34] <Bowbles> ikonia: do you think it may be worthwhile to try and move my actual ubuntu OS to a flash drive?
[08:34] <Bowbles> and then run the array just for storage?
[08:34] <MyLittleBronco> Have fun. Don't blow up anything. Night.
[08:34] <ikonia> Bowbles: what do you mean by flash drive, like a usb pen drive ?
[08:34] <Bowbles> ikonia: eyes
[08:34] <nearst> blow your drive.hehe
[08:34] <Bowbles> yes even
[08:34] <ikonia> Bowbles: personally - no, USB disks perform badly
[08:35] <ikonia> Bowbles: so it will depend on your needs/expectation
[08:36] <nearst> since ive 2 partition, how about mbr?
[08:37] <ikonia> nearst: sorry what ?
[08:38] <nearst> sda1 is xp, and sdb1 is ubuntu.
[08:39] <dr_willis> thats 2 hard drives.
[08:39] <ikonia> nearst: but what is your actual question ?
[08:41] <nearst> ikonia, i just have blinking screen at boot after grub.
[08:42] <ikonia> nearst: sorry, I've miseed context again, what's happened, you've done an install and grub now doesn't boot your install
[08:42] <Bowbles> ikonia: should I be raiding drives or partitions?
[08:42] <aridhol> drives
[08:42] <ikonia> Bowbles: up to you, personally, I like to make 1 partition that encompasses the drive, set it's partition type to raid
[08:42] <aridhol> Evening, I have a strange issue with mounting an NFS share via fstab. I am running 11.10, 3.0 kernel (just updated) and the NFS share mounts if I do it manually or via mount -a. It does not mount on bootup and no mount or nfs error is shown in dmesg (i did dmesg | grep nfs and dmesg | grep mount). my fstab line is host:/share /mountpoint nfs _netdev,auto,rw,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 Any suggestions welcome
[08:42] <dr_willis> raiding partitions wouldent make much sence
[08:43] <Bowbles> hmmm, then /boot may need to go to USB at least temporarily
[08:43] <ikonia> dr_willis: it can make a lot of sense, depending on your partition layout
[08:43] <nearst> ya. i done install for 2nd time.
[08:43] <ikonia> Bowbles: you can make a small 200mb partition at the start of the disk and mirror it on the other disks for resillience
[08:44] <Bowbles> how would I mirror it?
[08:44] <ikonia> raid 1
[08:44] <ikonia> (for example)
[08:44] <Bowbles> But doesn't that defy the whole point of not putting boot on a raid volume?
[08:45] <dr_willis> aridhol:  dirty work arouund. put mount -a in  /etc/rc.local after a delay
[08:45] <ikonia> Bowbles: raid 1 is different than raid 5,6
[08:45] <Bowbles> ikonia: ok I understan
[08:46] <aridhol> Raid is at the basic, a hardware redundancy play is it not? Why partititon?
[08:47] <aridhol> dr_willis, I will do that if it comes to it. I just don't understand why my machine won't load it at boot or at least tell me why it won't :(
[08:48] <dr_willis> aridhol:  my guess would be networking is not up when it tries and is failing
[08:48] <Bowbles> aridhol: because grub has trouble dealing with raid 5 and 6 from what i gather
[08:48] <dr_willis> aridhol:  i thought there was a mount option to make nfs wait untill it tried.. but that might have been a samba option
[08:48] <aridhol> but shouldn't dmesg or /log/messages etc.. tell me that?
[08:49] <Nag_> hi
[08:49] <aridhol> I have _netdev in my fstab which I gather is for NFS3 or ealier to "wait" but it does nothing
[08:49] <aridhol> Bowbles, ah, I had no idea :/
[08:50] <dr_willis> aridhol:  i would double check that option. it  might have some limitations.
[08:50] <aridhol> I guess it makes sense to ask if the mounting of shares is "proper" to be done outside of fstab and in a seperate runlevel / startup sequence
[08:50] <aridhol> am I living in the past?
[08:51] <dr_willis> is _netdev and auto redundant could auto be overrideing netdev?
[08:52] <Eagleman> I am a bit confused with the owner system with apache, should the files in the http folder owned by www-data or the user that maintains those files?
[08:52] <aridhol> netdev without the underscore is not a valid option as far as I understand
[08:53] <somsip> Eagleman: I tend to leave the user as secure as possible, and chgrp -R www-data *; chmod g+s -R *; Depends whether production or local dev server though
[08:57] <Eagleman> somsip so the file belongs to the group where the user is in, even then if a user creates a file the file owner will still be user:user
[08:57] <dr_willis> http://www.rodneybeede.com/How_to_fix_NFS__v4__not_mounting__etc_fstab_entries_on_boot.html
[08:58] <dr_willis> has mention of _netdev not working as intended
[08:58] <somsip> Eagleman: no - if you create a file it will be owned by eagleman:www-data
[08:58] <Bowbles> so ikonia I would partition for 200mb at the start of each drive, and then mark all of those partitions as bootable?
[08:58] <cute_bettong> i have a samsung series 7 with a hybrid ATI/intel card, and for some reason sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer seems to work in ubuntu 12.04 32bit, is there a replacement for this?
[08:59] <aridhol> http://www.rodneybeede.com/How_to_fix_NFS__v4__not_mounting__
[08:59] <aridhol> etc_fstab_entries_on_boot.html
[08:59] <Eagleman> hmm if i create a file now it belongs to 1001:1001  so no www-data involved
[08:59] <aridhol> whoops
[08:59] <aridhol> sorry
[08:59] <FloodBot1> aridhol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <somsip> Eagleman: I believe your username is too long to display so it's using your uid instead. Looks like the parent directory is not g+s (if that is what you want)
[09:00] <TheCrownedFox> I would like to take a screenshot of a computer (running ubuntu 12.04) that has its monitors inactive via ssh, so that I can see what X would be displaying from a distance. Is this possible to do?
[09:02] <dr_willis> TheCrownedFox:  ive seen  it done. but dont recall the exact command. saw it on a android server tool.. lets me see if i can find it.
[09:02] <TheCrownedFox> Thank you kindly
[09:02] <aridhol> Thanks dr_willis. I have a hard time accepting that a user hack is needed to have a system wait for an essential share from a network. Are we to rely on this for running ubuntu in a production environment? rediculous.
[09:02] <cute_bettong> so no one has any idea about my question?
[09:03] <cute_bettong> what has replaced reconfigure xserver-xorg, becasue the command dosen't seem to work
[09:04] <arabi> how to enable java for firefox in ubuntu 12.10
[09:06] <dr_willis> aridhol: i dont use nfs at all so im the wrong one to duscuss the deeper implinations  with. ;-)
[09:06] <Eagleman> which umask do you suggest somsip ?
[09:07] <makara> hi. I'm formatting new external 1TB disk. But with ext4 it already uses up 64GB before I've even added anything?!? Is there a better filesystem? (besides NTFS)
[09:07] <arabi> how to enable java for firefox in ubuntu 12.10?
[09:07] <nearst> hmm.. i hate grub2
[09:08] <aridhol> Thanks for the attempt, I do appreciate it. Just dissapointed that a "common" usage is such a pain
[09:08] <nearst> arabi, which java ? sun or open?
[09:09] <dr_willis> TheCrownedFox:    export DISPLAY=:0 ; import -window root foo.png
[09:09] <cute_bettong> can anyone tell me why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer works? and what can i use that would replace it
[09:09] <arabi> I have installed openjdk-7-jdk already
[09:09] <TheCrownedFox> thanks, let me give that a try real quick
[09:09] <nearst> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh?
[09:09] <arabi> nearst
[09:10] <dr_willis> cute_bettong: hasent worked yor ages as far as i know. x auto configures mainly. no xirg.cinf needed in most cases
[09:10] <aridhol> makara, 64 is perfectly normal. for example a "320GB" drive uses about 22GB
[09:10] <nearst> arabi, try install icedtea6-plugin
[09:10] <aridhol> drive sizes are not what you'd expect :)
[09:10] <dr_willis> cute_bettong:  a deeper issue will be how badly supported those dual gpu   setups are in linux
[09:10] <arabi> nearst, thanks
[09:11] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, well i can tell you that the hybrid video card works perfectly in ubuntu, i was just trying to do the old xorg customizations
[09:11] <makara> aridhol, oh ok
[09:12] <dr_willis> cute_bettong:   if you have an xorg.conf then try just rename/deleteing it
[09:12] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, i do that and my graphics stop working
[09:12] <dr_willis> i dont know what customizations you need
[09:12] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, im trying to turn on my ATI cards power management feature so it stops throttleing my core temps
[09:15] <Eagleman> What would be a good umask for a www folder?
[09:16] <Eagleman> user:www-data
[09:16] <nearst> Eagleman, depend on user. i would love to use 777 on my localhost
[09:17] <somsip> Eagleman: it depends if you need to write. If not, the standard is to give you a 644 file, which is fine.
[09:17] <Eagleman> chmod 777 everything
[09:17] <somsip> Eagleman: Starts a very bad habit...
[09:17] <nearst> hihi
[09:17] <Eagleman> nearst started it xD
[09:18] <kylescottmcgill> the same as your webserver daemon Eagleman
[09:18] <somsip> Eagleman: is this local or production>?
[09:18] <Eagleman> lets say its production
[09:18] <Eagleman> its a homeserver running 2 websites with FQDN's
[09:18] <somsip> Eagleman: are you writing to any files (cache, etc) with www-data user?
[09:19] <kylescottmcgill> if you use apache, and apache uses www-data then use www-data, if you are the only one of the system then you could start apache with your user and group and set those permissions, but in any case i wouldnt use the /var/www/ folder, and set up a virtual host
[09:19] <nearst> agree
[09:19] <Eagleman> i think i am not writing to anything outside the www folder
[09:19] <Eagleman> some files do need write issues but thats only 3% of them
[09:19] <Eagleman> should be done by hand
[09:20] <TheCrownedFox> that worked pretty well, thank you
[09:20] <somsip> Eagleman: so you need write access to certain folders. Make them chgrp www-data and chmod g+s them. Leave eveyrthing else as it is. That should do it
[09:20] <somsip> Eagleman: but that is very simply put
[09:21] <somsip> Eagleman: big difference between getting it working and making it secure
[09:21] <Eagleman> 644 wouldnt the last 4 be useless since www-data is in first 4 ?
[09:21] <ErdMutter> Eagleman, what I do is have my /var/www set to chmod 775, and have it chown root:www-data ... then I make a symbolic link to it in my home dirrectory ... then i make the symbolic link owned by my user. Not sure if it really helps any, just found it to work the best... i might be wrong.
[09:21] <somsip> Eagleman: if you are not writing to the file, www-data only needs RO
[09:21] <nearst> security and speed is big topic in IT
[09:21] <malefiku> Hello guys
[09:22] <nabblet> hi, i am looking for a rdp comaptible desktop viewer that can connect to multible computers simultanously. i tried remmina but i can only open one connection :(
[09:22] <malefiku> I have another problem now with my website
[09:22] <nearst> hi malefiku
[09:22] <nearst> nabblet, why view multiple computer at the same time? :D
[09:24] <malefiku> I have on my tablet 2 internet connections: 3G from Orange mobile phone provider and WIFI, from a local internet provider: when I try to enter my mobile version of www.marian32.com it points me to Google, but on wifi works; on wifi doesn't work the desktop version of the website
[09:24] <nabblet> nearst: because i have to monitor them for some time and have to compare things on them
[09:24] <malefiku> What is the problem?
[09:24] <nabblet> nearst: settings, installed software and all that... having them open at the same time will speed things up
[09:24] <Eagleman> -rw-r--r--  1 user userr  629 May 27  2012 test.php  is what i currently have, just trying to make it more "secure"
[09:25] <Eagleman> directory:  drwxr-xr-x  3 user user    4096 May 27  2012 temp
[09:26] <somsip> Eagleman: PHP will work, unless it needs to write to temp. Like log files and such
[09:26] <kylescottmcgill> is it suppose to have userr as the group?
[09:26] <Eagleman> somsip then the creator from the program will say which files/folder needs specific permissions
[09:26] <somsip> Eagleman: not sure what you mean there
[09:28] <nearst> nabblet, owh.what os involve?
[09:28] <nabblet> nearst: win xp and win 7
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> malefiku  better try ##networking or #ubuntu-server
[09:28] <nabblet> nearst: googling shows that remmina has trouble with multiple rdp connections. there are bugs filed
[09:29] <Eagleman> somsip, like this for example:  Within your genealogy folder, find the files adminlog.txt, config.php, genlog.txt, importconfig.php, logconfig.php, mapconfig.php, pedconfig.php, subroot.php, templateconfig.php and whatsnew.txt and give them all Read/Write permissions (666, or rw-rw-rw-) using your file manager or FTP program.
[09:30] <cute_bettong> is there a command to make ubuntu tell me how much vram i have? i know the card is listed at 1gb gddr4 but i don't know if ubuntu is using that ram is there a way to tell?
[09:30] <nearst> nabblet, ya. if your xp and win7 in your network. why not use synergy.remote mouse and keyboard
[09:30] <somsip> Eagleman: yes - if you are the 'creator of the program' you will need to chmod those files.
[09:32] <nabblet> nearst: do i have to install synergy on the win machines?
[09:32] <nearst> ya. client and server method
[09:34] <nabblet> nearst: i prefere to use board software of win xp. i know there are many ways to do this job (teamview, vnc, ...) but i thought it should work via rdp too...after all remmian is very charming as long as it is only one computer. i am trying to use multiple instaces of remmina now, maybe that helps
[09:35] <nearst> nabblet, ya.
[09:36] <nearst> why everytime i boot into default grub my screen gonna blinking and hang?
[09:37] <nabblet> nearst: i am playing around with rdesktop too
[09:37] <cute_bettong> alright, my ATI card is reporting the wrong size in memory, is there a way to fix this?
[09:38] <cute_bettong> the ati card has 1gb gddr5
[09:38] <cute_bettong> the system is reporting 256
[09:40] <ikonia> cute_bettong: how are you checking this ?
[09:40] <cute_bettong> ikonia, im using an app from the repo's called hardinfo
[09:41] <cute_bettong> ikonia, its telling me that i only have 256mb of ram on my card, and the card physically has 1GB of gddr5
[09:41] <ikonia> cute_bettong: ok, I'd suggest some other checks
[09:41] <cute_bettong> ikonia, what do you have in mind?
[09:41] <ikonia> cute_bettong: look in the xorg log, see what that's reporting
[09:44] <nearst> nabblet, last time i use vino and tsclient. hehe
[09:44] <cute_bettong> ikonia, is there a command to tell?
[09:45] <ikonia> cute_bettong: look in the xorg log, see what that's reporting
[09:46] <cute_bettong> ikonia, [    10.617] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0116:144d:c0b3 rev 9, Mem @ 0xc0000000/4194304, 0xb0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x00004000/64
[09:46] <cute_bettong> [    10.617] (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 1002:6741:144d:c0b3 rev 0, Mem @ 0xa0000000/268435456, 0xc0700000/131072, I/O @ 0x00003000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
[09:46] <cute_bettong> crap sorry
[09:46] <cute_bettong> diden't mean that >.<
[09:46] <ikonia> no problem
[09:47] <cute_bettong> ikonia, is that what you where looking for?
[09:47] <ikonia> no, I was expecting a line stating how much memory was available on the device
[09:47] <computer> how do i delete shortcut from Applications menu?
[09:47] <ikonia> !info hardinfo
[09:48] <nearst> try lshw -C video
[09:49] <cute_bettong> ikonia, it's reporting only 256
[09:50] <ikonia> cute_bettong: what is
[09:50] <nabblet> nearst: vino is for hosting remote desktop, right?
[09:50] <nabblet> nearst: or is there a client function too?
[09:50] <cute_bettong> lshw -C video
[09:50] <nearst> nabblet, yup.
[09:50] <cute_bettong> ikonia, lshw -C video
[09:50] <nabblet> nearst: ok, thank you
[09:50] <ikonia> cute_bettong: what model card is this ?
[09:50] <ikonia> cute_bettong: and what model does lshw think it is
[09:50] <nabblet> nearst: i'll stick to rdesktop until remmina get's the multi-connect fixed
[09:50] <cute_bettong> ikonia, Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series]
[09:51] <cute_bettong> ikonia, memory:a0000000-afffffff memory:c0700000-c071ffff ioport:3000(size=256) memory:c0720000-c073ffff
[09:51] <nearst> nabblet, cool :D
[09:51] <cute_bettong> ikonia, so the os is reporting 256mb of ram when there's 1024
[09:51] <ikonia> cute_bettong: is that aparture size set in the bios ?
[09:51] <ikonia> apature
[09:52] <cute_bettong> ikonia, this laptop has a simpleton bios, and the video ram is dedicated not shared
[09:52] <cute_bettong> ikonia, it's a samsung series 7 only 5 months old
[09:52] <ikonia> simpleton bios ?
[09:52] <jacklk> I'm on a friends server with also many other accounts, what's the best way to make my home folder private? What do I chmod it to?
[09:52] <cute_bettong> ikonia, bare features, boot order and the low level stuff nothing for a apiture size
[09:53] <ikonia> cute_bettong: could you please post the output of "lspci" in a pastebin please.
[09:53] <ikonia> cute_bettong: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/samsung-series-7-gamer-1102324/review
[09:54] <cute_bettong> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/EfvkNDEU
[09:54] <ikonia> cute_bettong: I'm asking due to that as it says this machine is not customizable and it says it comes with an nvidia card,
[09:54] <ikonia> cute_bettong: be good to see the output of lspci
[09:54] <cute_bettong> ikonia, the samsung series 7 i have is model # 700z5a-s0a
[09:55] <ikonia> cute_bettong: perfect, thank you
[09:56] <ikonia> cute_bettong: interesting, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/840140-REG/Samsung_NP700Z5A_S0AUS_Series_7_Chronos_NP700Z5A_S0AUS.html says it comes with a 6750 card
[09:56] <ikonia> cute_bettong: yours is a 6600
[09:56] <blami> ikonia: it has both intel and nvidia 6750
[09:56] <ikonia> blami: and yet his has AMD
[09:56] <blami> ikonia: wow
[09:56] <nearst> yup. dual gpu now
[09:57] <nearst> im still stick with intel GM915. lol
[09:57] <blami> nearst: be happy
[09:57] <ikonia> cute_bettong: something odd here, it's also showing your laptop processor as a "xeon"
[09:57] <blami> nearst: those optimus thingies are evil
[09:57] <ikonia> when that spec says it should be an I7 2675
[09:57] <cute_bettong> ikonia, i assure you it's not.
[09:58] <blami> ikonia: that's correct
[09:58] <nearst> blami, aha. hihi
[09:58] <ikonia> cute_bettong: just seems odd that it's reporting a xeon and a 6600 card, when it should be an I7 and a 6750
[09:58] <blami> ikonia: my i5 thinkpad reports xeon PCI-E hub as well
[09:58] <cute_bettong> ikonia, is my ubuntu broken? v.v or is it fixable
[09:58] <ikonia> cute_bettong: I don't think it's ubuntu, just hold on
[09:58] <blami> ikonia: theres nothing like Core i7 in hwdb
[09:59] <ikonia> blami: perfect, thank you
[09:59] <cute_bettong> ikonia, according to the box the video card in my laptop is a amd hd6750M gddr5 1GB hybrid
[09:59] <nearst> uname -a then
[09:59] <ikonia> cute_bettong: ok so it may just be a pci identifier problem
[10:00] <blami> ikonia: it's not problem afaik
[10:00] <ikonia> blami: what's not ?
[10:00] <blami> ikonia: architecture in fact is Xeon in case of newer Core i-something CPUs
[10:01] <cute_bettong> ikonia, blami it's an i7 i assure you
[10:01] <ikonia> blami: not according to my I7 thinkpad, but it's just wording
[10:01] <blami> ikonia: newer Xeons and Core i cpus are almost same,
[10:01] <cute_bettong> ikonia, blami it's an intel i7-2675QM
[10:01] <ikonia> cute_bettong: try "sudo update-pciids"
[10:01] <blami> ikonia: better said newer Xeons are based on i7
[10:01] <ikonia> blami: you're missing the point of what I was raising
[10:01] <nearst> look at /proc/cpuinfo?
[10:02] <ikonia> blami: I'm not arguing better / worse hardware, just what his sysstem had identified, eg: xeon process bridge, amd 6600
[10:02] <ikonia> which are all differerent than what his spec is
[10:02] <cute_bettong> ikonia, that is correct, and there's been no change to lspci after running that command though it did update
[10:03] <blami> ikonia: only thing I am saying is what lspci reports is correct
[10:03] <cute_bettong> ikonia, the odd thing is that hardinfo is reporting the correct cpu
[10:03] <ikonia> cute_bettong: ok, so it's possible (although I'm not massivly up to date on the dual video card stuff) is that it's possible it's using the intel gpu but still listing it as the amd
[10:03] <ikonia> cute_bettong: does the intel cpu scale down ram to 256 ?
[10:04] <blami> cute_bettong: that's ok because hardinfo does more homework to identify it. lspci just looks on vendor and device ids.
[10:04] <ikonia> I'm assuming the onboard gpu is smaller than the amd
[10:04] <cute_bettong> ikonia, i think the intel card has 512mb of ram but according to catalyst it's running the amd card not the intel
[10:05] <ikonia> cute_bettong: I wouldn't trust that %100
[10:05] <cute_bettong> ikonia, blami here http://pastebin.com/nKYiWyST
[10:05] <nearst> ati=amd fan
[10:05] <ikonia> but I'm not up to date enough on the current intel/amd switching to be certain what it should display
[10:05] <cute_bettong> ikonia, blami this is what hardinfo reports
[10:05] <ikonia> nearst: ?
[10:05] <nearst> jks
[10:05] <cute_bettong> nearst, i love ATI XD
[10:06] <Jordan_U> cute_bettong: I don't know much about it, but I think some hybrid graphics implementations always have the integrated graphics card driving the display, and offload rendering to the secondary GPU. So depening on how these tools are looking at the situation, it might appear that the intel card is the card being used. (I wish I could also tell you how to get the value you want).
[10:06] <nearst> chipset is really different now. sometime i also confuse
[10:07] <blami> Jordan_U: I think AMD is stuck in phase they need hw mux
[10:07] <blami> Jordan_U: which is good for linux users because having laptop like Lenovo T420 which has everything except LVDS hardwired to second card is pain
[10:08] <nearst> << lenovo T43
[10:08] <blami> cute_bettong: could you please paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:08] <blami> cute_bettong: it will give us a definite answer to what card is driving your display
[10:09] <lesshaste> huge numbers of copies of "wireless network authentication required"  windows appear .. how can I stop them?
[10:09] <cute_bettong> blami, http://pastebin.com/JqNAAry6
[10:10] <blami> cute_bettong: from that I can say youre running on AMD card
[10:11] <cute_bettong> blami, how come it's only reporting 256? is there a way to change that?
[10:11] <nearst> !info nomodeset
[10:12] <nearst> !nomodeset
[10:13] <blami> cute_bettong: does that amd use shared memory or it's own?
[10:13] <beachbrake> err, i downloaded 12.10 iso
[10:14] <beachbrake> and i need Untetbotin to take it to install linux on my new system.
[10:14] <cute_bettong> blami, the amd has dedicated GDDR5
[10:14] <beachbrake> but unetbootin is only supporting 12.04
[10:14] <beachbrake> anyone with a better solution.
[10:14] <nearst> beachbrake, it will work
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> beachbrake  I used unetbootin to install 12.10, what goes wrong when you try?
[10:15] <beachbrake> i am in an ubuntu system.
[10:15] <beachbrake> i installed unetbootin and there is no 12.10 in the dropdown menu
[10:15] <nearst> use iso option
[10:15] <cute_bettong> blami, im currently googleing this issue, but not finding anything pertinant so any help you render would be wonderful
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> beachbrake  download the iso form the website, then use unetbootin to put it on the usb stick
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> from*
[10:16] <beachbrake> MonkeyDust: i did
[10:17] <beachbrake> but i need to select somethign from the drop down right?
[10:17] <kylescottmcgill> what do you need unetbootin for? cant you just dd the iso onto a USB stick anyway?
[10:17] <cute_bettong> blami, can i go into xorg.conf and use Option VideoRam 1048576
[10:17] <nearst> what cause booting blinking
[10:17] <beachbrake> will it boot in the beginning if i just copy paste the iso?
[10:17] <cute_bettong> blami, can i go into xorg.conf and use Option VideoRam 1024
[10:18] <beachbrake> kylescottmcgill: ^
[10:18] <zhangyuqing> hello everyone
[10:18] <kylescottmcgill> not if you copy and paste it
[10:18] <kylescottmcgill> it needs the MBR associated inside the iso image to see it as a boot option
[10:18] <beachbrake> MBR
[10:18] <kylescottmcgill> What system are you on?
[10:19] <blami> cute_bettong: not sure if frglx supports that
[10:19] <beachbrake> ubuntu 9.04 currently
[10:19] <nearst> i love karmic
[10:19] <cute_bettong> blami, gonna reboot really quick we shall see.
[10:19] <kylescottmcgill> just a generic PC or Mac or ?
[10:19] <beachbrake> yes
[10:19] <beachbrake> kylescottmcgill: generic laptop
[10:19] <kylescottmcgill> beachbrake: if your on Ubuntu you could always dist-upgrade, however fresh install is always best
[10:20] <beachbrake> kylescottmcgill: i am trying to install it in another laptop.
[10:20] <beachbrake> erasing my broken open-suse.
[10:20] <kylescottmcgill> ok i see, sorry i came in half way :)
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> beachbrake  not from the drop down menu, choose 'disk image'
[10:20] <beachbrake> MonkeyDust: okay :)
[10:21] <kylescottmcgill> sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[10:22] <Jordan_U> beachbrake: From 9.04 you're likely to run into compatability problems as 9.04 had a much older version of syslinux. You may have to use dd, though be *very* careful if you do.
[10:22] <kylescottmcgill> Jordan_U: this is a fresh install on another laptop
[10:22] <cute_bettong> blami, im back
[10:22] <nearst> wcb cute_bettong
[10:23] <beachbrake> "space used to preserve files across reboots.."
[10:23] <beachbrake> ^ should i be specifying any page?
[10:23] <kylescottmcgill> Its just storage space for ubuntu
[10:23] <beachbrake> so 0 would be okay?
[10:23] <kylescottmcgill> i wouldnt worry about it if your not going to use it as a live USB type thing
[10:23] <kylescottmcgill> ya thats fine for an install
[10:23] <Jordan_U> kylescottmcgill: As I understand it, beachbrake is trying to make a bootable USB drive containing an Ubuntu 12.10 Live system, and is using Unetbootin from Ubuntu 9.04 to create it. If that's true, then my comment applies.
[10:24] <cute_bettong> nearst, thank you
[10:24] <beachbrake> no, i just want it to detect in startup and install fresh ubuntu over opensuse.
[10:24] <beachbrake> Jordan_U: yes
[10:24] <cute_bettong> blami, it dosen't
[10:24] <kylescottmcgill> Jordan_U: ah right i get you, ty
[10:24] <MordFustang> can anyone tell me how to send analog sound to TV?
[10:25] <beachbrake> Jordan_U: I also downloaded an iso in the 'downloads' folder.
[10:25] <blami> MordFustang: using headphones jack on your soundcard
[10:25] <Jordan_U> beachbrake: It's still worth trying Unetbootin, but if the resulting USB drive gives you an error from syslinux and fails to boot then you'll need to make the USB from a different OS or use dd.
[10:26] <MordFustang> blami: I have connected hdmi to TV and 3.5mm jack for audio but sound its not working
[10:26] <cute_bettong> blami, so any ideas?
[10:26] <beachbrake> Jordan_U: you mean, take the .iso and paste it on another OS (like windows) and recreate it?
[10:26] <dr_willis> MordFustang:  normally hdmi to a tv carries audio anyway.
[10:27] <MordFustang> dr_willis: I know
[10:27] <dr_willis> MordFustang:  the tv may have options to seelct what audio channel to use. or it maaay default to the analog when a specific hdmi port is used. or the vga port
[10:28] <MordFustang> tv thinks that he is receiving audio with hdmi
[10:28] <Jordan_U> beachbrake: Yes. (Though just for future reference, the term is usually "copy" as in "copying the file"  while "pasting the file" does make some logical sense, it's not said commonly and confused me for a moment)
[10:29] <dr_willis> MordFustang:  tryed the pavcontrol tool yet?
[10:29] <MordFustang> dr_willis no what is that :)?
[10:29] <dr_willis> its a tool.. install it.. try it
[10:29] <dr_willis> !info pavcontrol
[10:29] <cute_bettong> so no one has any answers to my problem?
[10:30] <dr_willis> if i can get its name right
[10:30] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[10:30] <dr_willis> no idea why it has a U in the name
[10:30] <beachbrake> Jordan_U: okay.
[10:32] <MordFustang> dr_willis: pavucontrol is not the right solution
[10:33] <dr_willis> MordFustang:  i recall using it befor to enable hami audio on my system.
[10:33] <dr_willis> or was it pavmixer
[10:33] <Slaptman> Can anyoneplease recommend an alternative for itunes mainly intrested in podcast and music
[10:33] <dr_willis> !info pavmixer
[10:34] <MordFustang> dr_willis: my graphic card is not connected to spdif
[10:34] <dr_willis> not on my ubuntu box so i cant check
[10:34] <blami> it's pavucontrol afaik
[10:34] <kylescottmcgill> Slaptman: Rhythembox is standard for that kinda stuff
[10:34] <dr_willis> MordFustang:  i dont see how spdif figures into it.
[10:34] <blami> cute_bettong: no, really. Those proprietary drivers are kinda black magic
[10:34] <blami> Slaptman: rhythmbox works well
[10:35] <cute_bettong> blami, i must have missed something what are you talking about? im using a driver that i compiled for ubuntu from ati
[10:37] <MordFustang> dr_willis: in windows I need to change some registry files to get audio working so I think I need to change some magic file here in ubuntu :)
[10:37] <dr_willis> MordFustang:  i just play somthing making noise. then use pavucontrol to tell it to use the hdmi out
[10:37] <dr_willis> or i tell it to use the analog out
[10:38] <dr_willis> or i recall telling it to send some apps to the analog.. and other to hdmi
[10:38] <dr_willis> i think i did that once. ;)
[10:40] <dr_willis> hmm. got a ctcp version from pbt and hes not even on the channel. ;P
[10:41] <beachbrake> Device for bootloader installation : /dev/sda6 openSUSE 12.1(i586)
[10:41] <beachbrake> MonkeyDust: ^ am i selecting it right?
[10:42] <cute_bettong> blami, http://pastebin.com/ZN6KVzCJ
[10:43] <cute_bettong> blami, is that correct for this card? is that 1gb?
[10:44] <beachbrake> Jordan_U: ^^
[10:45] <dtourond> Hello.
[10:46] <blami> cute_bettong: it seems it is but basically it does nothing ...
[10:47] <cute_bettong> blami, what do you mean it does nothing? O_O
[10:47] <dr_willis> beachbrake:  normally groub goes on the drives mbr. not partition
[10:47] <dr_willis> beachbrake:   /dev/sda  not sda6    unless you are doing somthing special
[10:48] <beachbrake> dr_willis: its a dual boot system
[10:48] <beachbrake> windows 7 and openSUSE
[10:48] <dr_willis> beachbrake:   so? mine are dual boot and it goes to the mbr of the hd you want to boooot
[10:48] <beachbrake> I am replacing openSUSE with ubuntu
[10:48] <dr_willis> 1 hd grub goes to sda.
[10:49] <djono> hello ive just installed wine and kind find it in my menu in lubuntu
[10:49] <dr_willis> if yiu had ubuntu on a seperate hd like sdb. then you could put it on sdb and boot sdb leaving windows untouched
[10:49] <beachbrake> "no root file system is defined"  please correct this from partitioning system"
[10:49] <dr_willis> djono:  wine dosent really have an icon
[10:49] <dr_willis> beachbrake:  tell the installer what partition you want to use for /
[10:50] <pavs> you can use wine from commandline. or start and windows exe and wine will cmoe in to action.
[10:50] <dr_willis> djono:   'wine /path/to/windowsapp.exe'
[10:50] <djono> i used mint before this lubuntu install and it had a wine configure icon and a C: folder
[10:50] <beachbrake> dr_willis: I have said /dev/sda
[10:50] <dr_willis> c: will get made aftwe you run an app with wine
[10:50] <dtourond> djono: Just start the Windows program and it should start automatically.
[10:50] <beachbrake> its giving me that error.
[10:50] <dr_willis> beachbrake:  / would be a partition. not a hd.
[10:50] <kelvinella> hello
[10:51] <djono> oh ok. so file association is already set
[10:51] <dr_willis> beachbrake:  such as /dev/sda5
[10:51] <beachbrake> dr_willis: okay
[10:51] <kelvinella> which firefox extension would allow me to have enable/disable JS, Java, etc in status bar?
[10:51] <beachbrake> dr_willis: the ones with ntfs would be windows right?
[10:51] <dr_willis> ntfs = windows yes
[10:51] <beachbrake> there is a swap for 0MB
[10:52] <beachbrake> sda6 i guess.
[10:52] <beachbrake> hmm...
[10:52] <dr_willis> no idea . :) its your disks.. not mine
[10:53] <beachbrake> so /dev/sda6 has 21474 MB and /dev/sda7 has 295984MB
[10:55] <pratz> Hello guys
[10:55] <pratz> I am using 12.04
[10:55] <pratz> hcitool is not scanning devices, any ideas ?
[10:56] <pratz> command - hcitool scan : no output
[10:56] <beachbrake> sda 7 then, and i have not spocified any mount point
[10:56] <pratz> hardware is HP laptop
[10:56] <beachbrake> check0 format the partition.
[10:57]  * beachbrake tires.
[10:58] <cute_bettong> blami, did you get my last post?
[10:58] <pratz> do we have any alternate bluetooth scanner other than hcitool ?
[10:59] <dr_willis> pratz: run it as root perhaps?
[10:59] <pratz> dr_willis: I am using it as root
[11:00] <dr_willis> beachbrake: you nwed to tell it / as a mountpoint somewhere
[11:00] <dr_willis> pratz:  out of ideas here. i always have issues with bt.
[11:01] <pratz> dr_willis: here is the trace back http://dpaste.org/UH7Zp/
[11:02] <remontees> Ça en chie du ventilo ici !
[11:02] <dr_willis> im on my phone leavung work pratz  so i gotta run.
[11:05] <kelvinella> does anyone know the firefox extension where you can have the JS and Java enable/disable selection box display at the firefox status bar?
[11:05] <pratz> dr_willis: yap, no worries
[11:05] <kelvinella> i reinstall ubuntu and forgot the extension name
[11:06] <pratz> hcitool can not scan , any ideas ?
[11:06] <pratz> here is the trace back http://dpaste.org/UH7Zp/
[11:11] <funkt> Hi there I'm having really bad probs with 12.04 chrome, firefox just keep on crashing anyone have any ideas what I could do to prevent this?
[11:12] <jackbrown> Does anyone knows in which folder MATE DE stores MENU Shortcurts ?
[11:13] <wooo> hey please anybody help me what is lamp..I have installed it but how to use it?
[11:14] <_nick320> Hi there Im having really bad probs with my browser crashing in 12.04 all the time could anyone give me some advice?
[11:16] <arabi> whic is the best ebook reader app for ubuntu other than documentViewer?
[11:16] <JPSman> Is it possible to set up a script that watches my network traffic and that sends me a notification that my downloading speed has dropped below say 10 Kb/s ??
[11:16] <tozen> hi gals! happy new year! any remastersys specialist here?
[11:17] <jackbrown> Does anyone knows in which folder MATE DE stores MENU Shortcurts ?
[11:18] <nearst> not sure
[11:19] <nearst> !remastersys
[11:19] <c_nick> When i try to format my USB Thumb Drive I keep getting the error Read Only File System.. i tried with GParted fsck dosfsck dmseg but same error
[11:21] <Catbuntu> Hi
[11:25] <kelvinella> ubuntu12.04 is lovely
[11:25] <kelvinella> unity is great if you have decent video card
[11:26] <Catbuntu> Cinnamon FTW!
[11:26] <Catbuntu> :P
[11:26] <kelvinella> i like the way unity group all my softwares
[11:27] <kelvinella> i constantly need to open 5 or 6 softwares to work so unity is great
[11:33] <uncledeath> hi, what's with the countdown?
[11:33] <uncledeath> on ubuntu homepage?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> uncledeath: no one knows.  wait and find out.
[11:34] <tottto-drummond> uncledeath Mark Sthuttlesworth will make a special announcement today
[11:35] <uncledeath> is it good or bad?
[11:36] <nearst> none is good
[11:37] <pratz> Hello guys
[11:38] <c_nick> uncledeath: its basically their OS on Mobile Devices
[11:38] <cfhowlett> pratz: greetings
[11:38] <pratz> I am not able to scan bluetooth devices with hcitool scan, any ideas ?
[11:39] <nearst> \
[11:40] <rom> i canot mount my hard disk in my computer using a live cd, can anyone help me
[11:41] <rom> i downloaded 12.10 ubuntu
[11:42] <narcislinux> Hi,why timer is there?what is for ?! http://www.ubuntu.com/
[11:42] <cfhowlett> narcislinux: wait and find out.
[11:43] <c_nick> narcislinux: its a countdown for their touch based OS
[11:43] <narcislinux> cfhowlett: lol plz tell me
[11:43] <narcislinux> hmmm
[11:43] <rom> i am trying to mount it take a backup of it before i reinstall.
[11:44] <cfhowlett> narcislinux: per c_nick, it's the mobile OS announcment
[11:45] <rom> can anyone help pls??
[11:45] <narcislinux> cfhowlett:  c_nick : :D Thanks
[11:46] <nearst> rom, mount /dev/sdx /mnt/
[11:47] <rom> should i type this in the terminal?
[11:47] <varnie> Hi there.
[11:47] <nearst> rom, check your drive first
[11:48] <cfhowlett> varnie: greetings
[11:48] <rom> then what do i do?
[11:49] <varnie> I installed ubuntu but did smth wrong  (I noticed that after ubuntu booted successfully, and I am in xfce4 environment I see some "16 gb volume" which is not mounted. and it looks like that boot partition is on it! how could it be?
[11:49] <varnie> I can show my df -h output if it will help.
[11:50] <varnie> it marked as "boot" in gparted though.
[11:50] <dencrypt> where is it mounted?
[11:50] <varnie> my question is it boot partition really and why it is not mounted automatically
[11:50] <varnie> it is mounted in /media/
[11:51] <dencrypt> looks like a USB to me
[11:51] <varnie> maybe it is left from the previous ubuntu installed.
[11:51] <nearst> yup. u use 16gb as usb bootable?
[11:51] <atlef> varnie, how did you install?
[11:51] <varnie> it countains the following folders: bin, boot, build, cdrom, dev, etc, home, lib, etc, root and so on
[11:52] <varnie> using ubuntu live cd
 how do i do this please help..
[11:52] <varnie> maybe ubuntu 12.10 prevented that volume from being erased while I installed fresh distro.
[11:52] <Catbuntu> Repartitioning worked fine
[11:52] <Kartagis> why does typing break reminder open this particular directory on nautilus upon hitting ok?
[11:52] <nearst> rom, u in livecd now? or other pc
[11:53] <rom> other pc
[11:53] <varnie> here's my partitions scheme: http://pastebin.com/u708xMKA
[11:54] <varnie> can I safely delete that /dev/sda1 partition?
[11:54] <varnie> nearst, hmm, no I guess no
[11:55] <Guest67151> :D
[11:55] <Guest67151> i found this dec package is an image
[11:55] <Guest67151> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxml2/python-libxml2_2.8.0+dfsg1-5ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb
[11:55] <nearst> varnie, try umount
[11:56] <varnie> nearst, I am sure it will successfully unmont, but what then?
[11:56] <varnie> unmount*
[11:56] <ender__> hi all. i've been trying for a coupel of hours to add 2 users that use the same home folder.
[11:57] <varnie> while my /boot contains such entries as "initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic" that 16 gb partition's boot folder contains "initrd.img-2.6.35-5-generic"
[11:57] <cfhowlett> ender__: pretty sure tha
[11:57] <varnie> looks like it is left from ubuntu 10.10.
[11:57] <cfhowlett> ender__: pretty sure that's not going to happen.  Why not assign them a shared file ... not shared /home
[11:57] <nearst> varnie, try fresh install
[11:58] <rom> if i click the 250 gb hard disk i have is says unable to mount location (canot mount file)
[11:58] <rom> what should i do to set this rite?
[11:58] <nearst> rom, try dh -h, what /dev/sd is that
[11:59] <nearst> *df -h
[12:01] <ender__> cfhowlett. thank you. i did this :
[12:02] <ender__> sudo groupadd Project
[12:02] <ender__>  sudo adduser -d /home/Project -s /bin/bash -g Project nicole
[12:02] <ender__>  sudo useradd -d /home/Project -s /bin/bash -g Project george
[12:02] <ender__>  sudo passwd nicole
[12:02] <ender__>  sudo passwd george
[12:02] <FloodBot1> ender__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <ender__> sudo usermod -d /home/Project -m george
[12:02] <cfhowlett> ender__: nicely done.  Good luck.
[12:03] <ender__> sorry about that. this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1487725/
[12:03] <rom> which one of these /cow, udev, tmpfs, /dev/sr0, /dev/loop0
[12:04] <majnoon>  countdown countdown
[12:05] <ikonia> ?
[12:07] <rom> nearst|away?
[12:10] <rom> which one of these /cow, udev, tmpfs, /dev/sr0, /dev/loop0  df -h got me a list of these?
[12:12] <joar> rom: huh?
[12:12] <rom> i am having a problem someone help?
[12:12] <joar> rom: what's the trouble?
[12:13] <rom> i cant mount my hard disk with a live cd..
[12:14] <joar> rom: and what is the error message?
[12:14] <ikonia> rom: what file system is on the disk you want to mount ?
[12:14] <atlef> rom, what fileformat
[12:14] <atlef> jinx
[12:15] <rom> it is my whole hard disk which is not mounting.
[12:15] <ikonia> rom: what file system is on the disk you want to mount ?
[12:15] <rom> i dont even c the partitions of it.
[12:15] <ikonia> rom: what file system is on the disk you want to mount ?
[12:15] <joar> rom: pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l`
[12:17] <Night-hacks> hi
[12:17] <Night-hacks> when i ssh to my server it says Permission denied, please try again.
[12:17] <djono> hello all. im using a mobil broadband internet stick and using lubuntu. is there a way to configure the settings to set my idle or reconnect option?
[12:17] <Night-hacks> it was ok till yesterday !
[12:18] <rom> il get in right back.
[12:18] <asilhouette> anybody recommend a good wireless dongle
[12:18] <djono> hello all. im using a mobil broadband internet stick and using lubuntu. is there a way to configure the settings to set my idle or reconnect option?
[12:19] <asilhouette> working well with with linux
[12:20] <atlef> asilhouette, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#By%20Manufacturer
[12:20] <asilhouette> oh wow thanks atlef
[12:20] <atlef> yaw
[12:21] <djono> is there an alternative network manager that supports mobil broadband
[12:21] <ikonia> djono: gnome network manager supports it just fine
[12:21] <KM0201> if your device isn't recognized properly, it's unlikely changing network managers is going to fix the problem
[12:22] <djono> it recognises it fine. just would like to set idle 0 and connect on disconnect option
[12:22] <KM0201> hmm, proably should have clarified that.. but that, i do not know.
[12:23] <djono> also when it disconnects i have to always disable networking and enable it again
[12:24] <asilhouette> djono: have you tried wicd
[12:24] <asilhouette> not quite sure it supports mobile broadband though
[12:24] <djono> wicd doesnt support mobile broadband stick
[12:24] <asilhouette> ah ok
[12:24] <djono> the best one ive triend believe it or not is actually on puppy linux. is there a way i can get pup dial on ubuntu?
[12:24] <rom> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0006adca     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1            2046   117186559    58592257    5  Extended /dev/sda2   *   117186560
[12:25] <ikonia> rom: please use a pastebin
[12:25] <ikonia> !pastebin | rom
[12:26] <djono> pupdial had the best features  in my opinion as far as mobil broadband
[12:29] <rom>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14  	  Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0006adca     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1            2046   117186559    585
[12:29] <rom> sorry
[12:36] <oskar-> hi all, on my ubuntu 12.04 server boot is not completed until i press at least one keyboard key. it seems as if apparmor is the cause. what could i do to fix it?
[12:37] <dr_willis> it dosent give any error messages or other info?
[12:37] <dr_willis> how are you determining its apparmour?
[12:41] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Hello, have a happy new year for all people from Seville!!!!
[12:44] <oskar-> dr_willis, network and ssh is already running then, so i could log in and see a process with command "/etc/init.d/apparmor start". also, when i pressed a key, the next output was from the apparmor script. but what i see now is, that it is not so very well reproducible. i will investigate...
[12:44] <oskar-> thanks
[12:47] <rom> i am not able to do the copy paste through the pastebin, n i dont have much time can i paste each line at a time n can come one geve me a solution?
[12:48] <rom> for the sudo fdisk -l
[12:48] <tga> hey, I'm trying to get a Netgear WN511T working on 12.04 with ndiswrapper
[12:48] <tga> other than installing the driver in ndiswrapper and adding the module what else do I have to do to get the network manager to recognize the card?
[12:48] <TBarth> Hi, how can I disable "last used applications/files" in the dash-starter. I dont want to see them in a list.
[12:48] <nearst> back
[12:50] <rom> i am not able to do the copy paste through the pastebin, n i dont have much time can i paste each line at a time n can come one geve me a solution?
[12:52] <ikonia> rom: use the pastebin
[12:52] <beachbrake> while loading the OS, mid way, power went off
[12:52] <beachbrake> what is the status of the load?
[12:52] <beachbrake> should i restart again?
[12:52] <ikonia> status of the load ?
[12:52] <savio> hi
[12:52] <ikonia> what load ?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> beachbrake: assume it's corrupted
[12:52] <nearst> !htop > beachbrake
[12:52] <beachbrake> installing ubuntu
[12:52] <cfhowlett> savio: greetings
[12:53] <ikonia> nearst: ?? what /
[12:53] <kjslater> Good morning and HELP!
[12:53] <ikonia> beachbrake: I would start again
[12:53] <cfhowlett> beachbrake: loss of power during an installation means start over
[12:53] <ikonia> kjslater: no need for the caps
[12:53] <beachbrake> okay, i just dont want system to have incomplete files.
[12:53] <beachbrake> i hope it does no damage.
[12:54] <kjslater> Hehe. I never use them, except in an emergency.
[12:54] <nearst> ouch.
[12:54] <ikonia> beachbrake: re-install would be a safe move then
[12:54] <beachbrake> ikonia: cfhowlett thanks
[12:54] <michagogo> !12.10
[12:54] <rom> not getting through, it ast for download then i got  to launchepad..
[12:54] <ikonia> rom: use a different pastebin then, such as pastebin.ca
[12:55] <michagogo> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso is that 32-bit version, correct?
[12:55] <ikonia> michagogo: correct
[12:55] <nearst> michagogo, yup
[12:55] <michagogo> Also, I got it via bitorrent -- that download process includes a checksum, right? So I don't need to verify it again?
[12:56] <nearst> x64 for 4GB above
[12:56] <Cong> There's no gpc for u12.04.
[12:57] <kjslater> My upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 seemed to work, other than having to comment out extras. But it appears the grub menu.lst was never updated. So i have a non-booting system right now. Is there any easy way out of this?
[12:58] <kjslater> System in question is booted with a 12.04.1 live DVD
[12:58] <nearst> kjslater, try chroot and reinstall grub
[12:58] <dr_willis> or grub2
[12:58] <rom> k
[12:59] <DeadC0w> hi all . I'm back. I tried sharing a file between users like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1487895/     ; is there no simpler way ? :)
[12:59] <kjslater> Which does 11.04 desktop have dr_willis?
[13:00] <auronandace> kjslater: 11.04 was the first release of unity, 11.04 is no longer supported
[13:00] <eristikophiles> good riddance. unity looked terrible
[13:01] <eristikophiles> (don't mind me though, i use kde)
[13:01] <ikonia> then please stop commenting
[13:03] <kjslater> Nearst	 - so mount the partitions appropriately, chroot an xterm session to that base and then run grub-setup?
[13:03] <rom> i got it on to a paste bin what do i do now?
[13:04] <ikonia> rom: provide us the URL
[13:04] <rom> should i give the link?
[13:04] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2298689
[13:04] <savio> anyone can tell me what to do on bugsquad
[13:04] <ikonia> savio: what do you mean ?
[13:05] <savio> ikonia, i join bugsquad long ago but i'm confused where to start i also read wiki but no help
[13:06] <Cong> That's not covered here.
[13:06] <ikonia> savio: why have you joined a group you have no idea what to do with ?
[13:06] <ikonia> savio: you are meant to join when you can participate
[13:06] <atlef> rom, try installing exfat-utils and exfat fuse in the live session to access the drive
[13:07] <coloxim> "/EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh"
[13:07] <ikonia> coloxim: please don't do that
[13:08] <savio> coloxim, | !pastebin
[13:08] <rom> how do i do that?
[13:09] <savio> !pastebin
[13:09] <michagogo> !pastebinit
[13:11] <kjslater> What a way to start a morning..
[13:15] <stulluk> Hi, I am trying to install phyton to my kubuntu 12.04, but apt-get install phyton2.7 fails.. I did this: add-apt-repository ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes but apt-get can not find anything called phyton2.7
[13:15] <stulluk> Can you help?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> stulluk: run apt-cache policy python to find the package
[13:16] <cfhowlett> stulluk: then install it
[13:16] <stulluk> let me try
[13:16] <cfhowlett> stulluk: should show up in the Main repository
[13:17] <nearst> yup. 2.7.3 in main repo
[13:17] <cfhowlett> stulluk: my readout shows 2.7.3
[13:17] <stulluk> yes, mine shows 2.7.3 is already installed too
[13:17] <DJones> stulluk: Looking at https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes?field.series_filter=precise they don't have a phyton2.7
[13:17] <cfhowlett> stulluk: well there you go then ...
[13:17] <stulluk> but even it is installed, phyton -v shows no such command
[13:17] <cfhowlett> stulluk: no PPA required
[13:17] <DJones> stulluk: It jumps from 2.6 to 3.1
[13:18] <stulluk> Djones: I tried installing 3.1,3.2.,3.3.... tried all
[13:18] <stulluk> but none of them found
[13:18] <nearst> python --version
[13:18] <stulluk> let me try again
[13:18] <atlef> stulluk, try python -v not phyton -v
[13:19] <nextblove> hello
[13:19] <nextblove> how are u doing guy
[13:19] <DeadC0w> 2.7.3 is in the main repository. (for quantal )
[13:19] <nextblove> have some issue
[13:19] <stulluk> http://pastebin.com/4W4vzEHL
[13:19] <DJones> Also, you said "apt-get install phyton2.7" fails is that a spelling mistake in python ?
[13:19] <stulluk> Hi, can you check this: http://pastebin.com/4W4vzEHL
[13:19] <nextblove> wanna format my flash drive
[13:19] <cfhowlett> stulluk: spelling!
[13:20] <stulluk> oh my god
[13:20] <stulluk> I am very sorry
[13:20] <cfhowlett> stulluk: no worries.
[13:20] <stulluk> I am sorry sorry sorry
[13:20] <nearst> np
[13:20] <atlef> np
[13:20] <stulluk> thank you all
[13:20] <cfhowlett> stulluk: good luck.  have fun.
[13:21] <nearst> anyone use bfs?
[13:21] <dagerik> breadt first search? yeah all the time
[13:22] <kjslater> Can anyone tell me which version of grub I should have on an 11.04 system after upgrading?
[13:22] <Ben64> should be grub2 unless you've been upgrading for a long time
[13:22] <nextblove> my flash drive when am gonna format it i have a error : the disk is write protected
[13:23] <nextblove> i need a help please
[13:23] <dagerik> nextblove: unmount it
[13:23] <nearst> apt-cache policy grub-pc, or grub2
[13:23] <michagogo> In Ubuntu's installer (12.10) is it possible to enlarge/resize the console window/panel/thing?
[13:23] <Porkepix> Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems.
[13:24] <kjslater> Ben64	- only this one time IIRC
[13:24] <Porkepix> I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?
[13:24] <blami> what service creates /etc/motd?
[13:24] <blami> I don't want see information about upgradable packages here ...
[13:24] <nextblove> dagerik : i said i want to format my flash drive in ubuntu and dont know the command to type
[13:25] <dagerik> nextblove: mkfs
[13:27] <nearst> i think its cron
[13:27] <nearst> !cron
[13:28] <jrib> blami: man update-motd
[13:28] <michagogo> In Ubuntu's installer (12.10) is it possible to enlarge/resize the console window/panel/thing?
[13:30] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[13:30] <nearst> hi GeorgeJ
[13:30] <atlef> !hi | GeorgeJ
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:30] <GeorgeJ> I have a question. My fstab contains a mountpoint on /dev/mapper/tobi-root. Can I not use /dev/tobi/root instead?
[13:31] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: you can call the device what you want
[13:31] <GeorgeJ> I see all of them are symlinks, so there should be no reason for them not to be created at the same time, correct?
[13:32] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: what ?
[13:32] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: they are created by udev at boot time
[13:32] <nearst> maybe raid or lvm
[13:33] <GeorgeJ> My only concern was that /dev/<myvg> might not exist at boot-time.
[13:34] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: it gets created by udev
[13:35] <azazel> im poor is there someone that can send me ubuntu 12.10
[13:35] <ikonia> no
[13:35] <asilhouette> lol
[13:35] <ikonia> try your local lug or ubuntu loco team
[13:35] <asilhouette> azazel: download it
[13:35] <DJones> azazel: As its free, just download it from the website
[13:36] <nearst> meh
[13:36] <azazel> i know its free but i cant afford a blank cs
[13:36] <nearst> cs?
[13:36] <azazel> cd*
[13:36] <asilhouette> you don't need a cd
[13:36] <ikonia> try your local lug or ubuntu loco team
[13:36] <asilhouette> you can mount it on a usb flash drive if you have one
[13:36] <nearst> if u have usb. u can make it bootable
[13:37] <nearst> !unetbootin
[13:37] <atlef> or memory cards
[13:37] <asilhouette> where are you azazel?
[13:37] <nextblove> how to format flash drive in ubuntu?
[13:37] <azazel> you understand i dont have a usb drive
[13:37] <azazel> new jersey
[13:38] <asilhouette> what about your friends?
[13:38] <asilhouette> you better not be trolling
[13:38] <azazel> i have to pay them
[13:38] <ivotkl> Good morning everyone. (at least for me, hehe)
[13:38] <nearst> azazel, try use it on virtualbox or qemu :P
[13:38] <azazel> i dont think ubuntu 10.10 can install that
[13:39] <grm> ／abook
[13:39] <nearst> why not?
[13:39] <ivotkl> nextblove: you can use gparted if you want to, I can't recall if file manager allows format (I think it does).
[13:39] <kjslater> Uhoh,  after chrooting to rerun grub setup, my setup complained about a partial completed package install and said to run dpkg --configure -a
[13:39] <Porkepix>  Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems. I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> azazel: virtualbox will install to 10.10
[13:40] <azazel> i will see
[13:40] <kjslater> Maybe that wasn't a great idea?
[13:40] <nearst> kjslater, mount -o bind /dev/proc, sys, dev. then chroot
[13:40] <cfhowlett> azazel: pretty sure you can find affordable flash drives even in NJ ...
[13:41] <nearst> apt-get install --fix-missing
[13:41] <Ben64> ~$10 for 16GB
[13:41] <Cong> Cheap and slow.
[13:41] <kjslater> Nearst - dpkg is running, kill it?
[13:41] <Ben64> Cong: in other words, a flash drive
[13:42] <azazel> no i checked its no available for ubuntu 10.10
[13:42] <Cong> No. It's not the same, Ben64
[13:42] <w3bg33k> my swap LV has 0% available on it...I want to resize it, but I can't when it's in use...what is the best way to do that?
[13:42] <Ben64> Cong: flash drives are all slow
[13:42] <cfhowlett> azazel: as 10.10 is EOL, perhaps it's time you upgraded anyway.
[13:42] <w3bg33k> i'm using turnkey linux, so i have bot the TKL web gui & shell access
[13:43] <michagogo> azazel: You can get a flash drive for probably <$%
[13:43] <michagogo> <$5*
[13:43] <nearst> kjslater, not sure your situation right now
[13:43] <azazel> if i stall ubuntu 110.04 will i be able to install ubuntu 11.10
[13:43] <azazel> 10.04
[13:43] <BWMerlin> I am trying to install the pidgin-plugin-pack through apt-get but I do not want to install all of the pack only two components contained within it
[13:43] <BWMerlin> is it possible to choose which parts get installed?
[13:44] <Pici> BWMerlin: No. It looks to be a package that just contains a bunch of plugins, not a metapacakage that would depend on other packages.
[13:44] <Ben64> azazel: it'd be easier to upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04
[13:45] <azazel> how do i do that
[13:45] <cfhowlett> azazel: current version is 12.10.  Current Long Term Support version is 12.04.  Unless you really need the latest/greatest shiny stuff, I advise you install LTS.
[13:45] <michagogo> Why is LTS recommended?
[13:45] <Ben64> lasts longer, more stable
[13:45] <BWMerlin> Pici: thanks
[13:46] <nearst> more longer, less cutting edge
[13:46] <BWMerlin> if I install from source would I be able to select the plugins I want to install or will it be the same thing, all or nothing?
[13:46] <Pici> BWMerlin: I don't know, sorry.
[13:46] <nearst> but point is stable running :)
[13:46] <cute_bettong> does gwibber work in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:47] <Ben64> !info gwibber | cute_bettong
[13:47] <azazel> but how do i go from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04
[13:47] <BWMerlin> Is there a command I can run during the configure/make process?
[13:47] <banda> if i take the drive out of my laptop and temporarily install another drive from a latop with different hardware, would the item still boot correctly? Could it damage my hardware? (maybe a silly question, anyway)
[13:47] <cute_bettong> Ben64, uh, that was useless.
[13:47] <Ben64> azazel: by using the update manager
[13:48] <cfhowlett> azazel: best bet is to download 12.04 and clean install.
[13:48] <Ben64> cute_bettong: it exists, so it works, what more do you want?
[13:48] <Ubuntu_Love> I want to build Ubuntu 12.04
[13:48] <Ubuntu_Love> How to build Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:48] <banda> will ubuntu detect that it's different harware and change the drivers etc?
[13:48] <ivotkl> !windows
[13:48] <cute_bettong> Ben64, im using the 12.04 v of ubuntu and gwibber dosen't work, so im wondeirng if i can install the 12.10 version in 12.04 and make gwibber work
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Ubuntu_Love: build?  it's already an iso ...
[13:49] <Ben64> cute_bettong: don't mix versions
[13:49] <Ubuntu_Love> cfhowlett: No. I will edit source code
[13:49] <banda> 1) dellivotkl who's talking about windows?
[13:49] <cute_bettong> Ben64, so ill just have to stick with a broken version of gwibber?
[13:49] <Porkepix>  Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems. I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?
[13:49] <Ben64> cute_bettong: file a bug report maybe?
[13:49] <azazel> but what do i do to the ubpdate manager to go to 1204
[13:50] <Ben64> azazel: it'll ask you if you want to upgrade
[13:50] <cute_bettong> Ben64, there's no point in me fileing a bug report, there's already more than a dozen on the subject with no visible answers in site, it seems that gwibber-facebook is broken in 12.04
[13:50] <ivotkl> nextblove: if files manager won't let you format USB drive, you should type this on terminal "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[13:50] <cfhowlett> azazel: update manager should offer to update you.  If not, check the settings.  There should be a selection box for LTS.  If you enable that, you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[13:51] <Ubuntu_Love> How to build Ubuntu 12.04
[13:51] <cute_bettong> Ben64, i can't even find gwibber source code and figure out how to install it >.<
[13:52] <banda> say ubuntu gnu/linux is isntalled on a laptop, and i transfer the drive into a laptop with different hardware? will ubuntu reconfigure itself during boot if it detects new harware?
[13:52] <cute_bettong> Ben64, i want to install gwibber 3.6.0 in ubuntu 12.04
[13:52] <cute_bettong> Ben64, supposedly that version of gwibber works
[13:53] <Ben64> cute_bettong: looks like the fix is already in for 12.04
[13:53] <cute_bettong> Ben64, really how can i get it?
[13:53] <Ben64> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/1058672
[13:54] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2298706  can anyone help me?
[13:55] <cute_bettong> Ben64, im not finding anything but the normal gwibber in the repo's and i have the gwibber daily PPA as well am i missing something?
[13:56] <ikonia> cute_bettong: why are you using a daily ppa ?
[13:56] <cute_bettong> Ben64, also this is a diffrent error than im getting, i can add the facebook account, but it won't refresh or pull down the feed from facebook, twitter and everything else is fine
[13:56] <cute_bettong> ikonia, becasue gwibber in ubuntu is broken, and i was hopeng that the daily ppa would fix it
[13:57] <ikonia> define "broken"
[13:57] <cfhowlett> banda: no you'd want to reinstall.  just moving the hardware from point A to point B will not configure as needed.
[13:57] <dufa> rom: it's a directory listing, what's the issue?
[13:58] <cute_bettong> ikonia, ok in ubuntu 12.04 you go and add your facebook account, and it works the account is added, BUT when you go to the gwibber main widow and click f5 or refresh, it dosen't pull down anything from facebook HOWEVER it will post to facebook, and i've googled for hours and can't seem to find a fix for it or any alternative for it either
[13:58] <ikonia> cute_bettong: is there a bug logged ?
[13:59] <cute_bettong> ikonia, several all reporting the same thing
[13:59] <ikonia> cute_bettong: can you give me one of the launchpad bug id's please.
[13:59] <Touhou11> The authentication in gwibber is fucked at the moment, already a bug report
[13:59] <ikonia> Touhou11: there is no need for that language
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !language
[13:59] <ikonia> Touhou11: it is uncalled for an unwelcome
[13:59] <cute_bettong> ikonia, sure give me a moment
[13:59] <Touhou11> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/1088775
[14:00] <cute_bettong> ikonia, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/1084325
[14:01] <cute_bettong> ikonia, it's why i was looking to install gwibber from it's website or project page, but i can't even figure out how to do that >.<
[14:01] <ikonia> cute_bettong: 1088775 appears to be the master bug
[14:01] <ikonia> cute_bettong: put yourself on the notification and follow it's progress
[14:02] <rom> i couldnt mount my disk with a live cd.
[14:02] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2298717
[14:02] <rom> this is what i didi all this time..
 was the one who was helping me till now..
[14:03] <ikonia> rom: your disk is mounted, what's the problem
[14:03] <rom> how do u say?
[14:04] <ikonia> rom: "what is the problem"
[14:05] <rom> still cant c my windows partition?
[14:05] <Ben64> you mounted it in /mnt
[14:05] <ikonia> rom: it's there in /mnt
[14:05] <ikonia> rom: you mounted it it has your autoexec.bat, your msdos.sys etc
[14:05] <ikonia> rom: it's in the pastebin !
[14:05] <cute_bettong> ikonia, so from what im seeing there gwibber is broken becasue facebook as usuall can't do its job?
[14:06] <ikonia> cute_bettong: ok, and there is a bug logged as you can see
[14:06] <cute_bettong> ikonia, yup seems to now effect every version of ubuntu, what a shame.
[14:06] <rom> oh, i didnt know that!
[14:06] <rom> thank you!!!!
[14:07] <ikonia> cute_bettong: that may suggest it's a problem with gwibber, rather than ubuntu
[14:07] <cfhowlett> ikonia: exactomundo
[14:08] <Touhou11> If Ubuntu ships with a piece of software by default, they should take an interest in ensuring it works
[14:08] <cute_bettong> ikonia, it's a shame that it's not fixed yet, gwibber when it works is rather nice
[14:08] <kjslater> Would an 11.04 install DVD have a rescue current, botched install option?
[14:09] <ikonia> cute_bettong: then work with the gwibber people to get it fixed
[14:10] <XphnX> 3:50!
[14:10] <dragon> What's the timer at ubuntu.com for?
[14:10] <XphnX> I don't think anyone knows
[14:10] <dragon> And why is this room so awfully quiet?
[14:10] <DJones> dragon: You'll have to wait and see later
[14:10] <XphnX> But "so close you can almost touch it" is a big hint ;)
[14:10] <dragon> DJones: lol, seriously?
[14:10] <XphnX> Only canoical knows
[14:10] <dragon> I already feel all touchy-feely.
[14:11] <DJones> dragon: Yep, we know as much as you do
[14:11] <dragon> Hmm
[14:11] <KM0201> logic says its a tablet or phone
[14:11] <Ben64> kindle fire: ubuntu edition
[14:11] <KM0201> probably a tablet of some type
[14:11] <XphnX> Lol
[14:11] <Touhou11> Whatever happened to Ubuntu TV? Been awfully quiet since last year
[14:11] <dragon> Makes sense!
[14:12] <XphnX> Well they already have Ubuntu for N7
[14:12] <dragon> Touhou11: yeah, I've been looking forward to it!
[14:12] <XphnX> Which is awesome.
[14:12] <Ben64> WiiUbuntu
[14:12] <XphnX> It was supposed to be announced this year, UbuntuTV was
[14:12] <XphnX> Maybe late announcement?
[14:12] <XphnX> But I doubt it
[14:12] <KM0201> dunno, the tablet market seemss tough to crack.. apple and google have a serious hold on that
[14:12] <XphnX> Major hint there
[14:12] <FloodBot1> XphnX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <ikonia> !topic
[14:12] <dufa> exit
[14:12] <XphnX> Hush, floodbot
[14:13] <DJones> Probably better for discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic though to leave this channel free for support questions
[14:13] <XphnX> Well, it's sort o on topic, but ok :)
[14:14] <dragon> Long time ikonia <3
[14:14] <dragon> I used to support poor lost souls here in 2008-09.
[14:15] <XphnX> lo
 thank you all, for getting this fixed for me!
[14:16] <keepbro> umm can someone help an ubuntu noob? i have a slight problem that I cant figure out?
[14:16] <XphnX> Yeah?
[14:16] <XphnX> Hopefully I can still remember how ubuntu works, I haven't used it in a bit
[14:17] <HowdyDoody> How to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 with liveCD and all drives in LVM (logical volume mgr) ??  Is there a clear cut way to upgrade that is not too complicated but not all that S-L-O-W ?   I've been told that using update mgr for the upgrade is VERY slow.
[14:17] <XphnX> I never had issues w/it, but
[14:17] <XphnX> I never upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04
[14:17] <XphnX> Hmmm
[14:17] <XphnX> I just installed 12.04 clean on
[14:18] <KM0201> i dont think lvm would matter
[14:18] <KM0201> so just upgrade as usual
[14:18] <KM0201> !upgrade
[14:18] <wooo> I want to transfer data from 2 different pc's (windows to ubuntu).I installed ip messenger for this but it is giving error " Can not setup lock file:/tmp/g2ipmsg.lock errno : -11 (Resource temporarily unavailable)".please help me in this or tell me If there any other way to transfer data?
[14:18] <katsunexubuntu> hey guys does anyone know how to install intel graphics drivers?
[14:18] <XphnX> Intel should come w/ubuntu
[14:19] <XphnX> Or at least the kernel
[14:19] <XphnX> Am I right on this? they intergrated it into the kernel?
[14:19] <katsunexubuntu> Xphnx that's also what I know, but I'm running xubuntu
[14:19] <Touhou11> katsunexubuntu: Intel graphics drivers are part of the default kernel
[14:20] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX and the screen is randomly tearing whenever I'm in heavy graphics
[14:20] <XphnX> What kernel is xubuntu using
[14:20] <keepbro> I have the 12.04 LTS version but I keep getting told to update on the update manager - every time I do it tells me that I need to connect to the net even though I am. The bug report says that it cant find what I am trying to update so obviously I need to look elsewhere but I am new to this OS and its all a bit greek to me
[14:21] <HowdyDoody> thanks, ubottu for the links, got a lot to read up on, now.
[14:21] <yanick_> Hi, I have an ATI Radio 3600 and Ubuntu 12.10. Obviously, I could not install the proprietary ATI drivers. Now, how can I have HDMI sound working?
[14:21] <katsunexubuntu> Touhou11 i'm having some problem with the screen tearing whenever I play videos or just using the computer
[14:21] <yanick_> */radion
[14:22] <yanick_> */radeon dammit
[14:22] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX I dont know how to know the kernel can you tell me?
[14:22] <XphnX> damn
[14:22] <XphnX> i can't remember off the top of my head
[14:22] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX I mean the command to know the kernel version
[14:22] <XphnX> just a sec
[14:22] <Therion87> yanick_ Why cant you install the properitray drivers?
[14:22] <atlef> uname -a
[14:22] <atlef> uname -r
[14:22] <XphnX> uname
[14:22] <XphnX> yea
[14:23] <yanick_> TheDrums, because it's not compatible with the new Xorg?
[14:23] <keepbro> heres the bug report if anyone is helping
[14:23] <katsunexubuntu> atlef thanks
[14:24] <yanick_> Therion87, because it's not compatible with the new Xorg?
[14:24] <keepbro> shit
[14:24] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX it says 3.5.0-21-generic
[14:24] <atlef> katsunexubuntu, np
[14:24] <wooo> please help!!
[14:24] <wooo> I want to transfer data from 2 different pc's (windows to ubuntu).I installed ip messenger for this but it is giving error " Can not setup lock file:/tmp/g2ipmsg.lock errno : -11 (Resource temporarily unavailable)".please help me in this or tell me If there any other way to transfer data?
[14:25] <XphnX> hm
[14:25] <XphnX> it should have intel drivers then
[14:25] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX I'm using Xubuntu,
[14:25] <Laurenceb> hi
[14:25] <Laurenceb> i seem to have a problem with X
[14:25] <Laurenceb> i cannot see the top of windows
[14:25] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX is it just the same with ubuntu?
[14:25] <XphnX> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[14:26] <Laurenceb> can anyone help
[14:26] <XphnX> the kernels are the same
[14:26] <XphnX> the top of windows?
[14:26] <XphnX> aaah
[14:26] <FloodBot1> XphnX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <Laurenceb> yes, the top bar
[14:26] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX actually I was browsing on that website right now
[14:26] <Laurenceb> top bar has disappeared
[14:26] <XphnX> Floodbot1: -.-
[14:27] <Laurenceb> can i restart X and keep my open windows?
[14:27] <ikonia> no
[14:27] <Laurenceb> wtf
[14:27] <Laurenceb> i just lost all my swap
[14:27] <ikonia> Laurenceb: no need for that
[14:27] <Laurenceb> oh, its cached
[14:28] <Laurenceb> maybe i ran out of memory?
[14:28] <Laurenceb> ok, how can i fix this?
[14:28] <XphnX> hm
[14:28] <XphnX> you were the one where the top bars had disappeared
[14:29] <Laurenceb> yes
[14:29] <XphnX> ok
[14:29] <Laurenceb> 0k total means i have no cache?
[14:29] <Laurenceb> this is not good
[14:29] <XphnX> is this your problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878325
[14:30] <yanick_> does anyone know if the open source ATI drivers will eventually support HDMI sound output?
[14:30] <Laurenceb> i have no browser
[14:30] <XphnX> o fail
[14:31] <XphnX> Try resetting the Xorg server:
[14:31] <XphnX> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:31] <XphnX> try that?
[14:31] <katsunexubuntu> XphnX is there any other way?
[14:31] <katsunexubuntu> I really dont wanna leave linux
[14:32] <andrea_> Laurenceb: what did you do to restart X ?
[14:32] <Pici> yanick_: I was able to get my ATI card (with HDMI sound out) working with the help of this PPA on 12.10.  https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[14:32] <Laurenceb> i havent tried anything yet
[14:33] <Laurenceb> how can i fix the swap[ issue?
[14:34] <Pici> yanick_: Keep in mind that PPAs are technically unsupported by the community, so you might have unforseen problems.  I haven't seen anything strange myself though.
[14:36] <katsunexubuntu> Pici who are you talking too?
[14:36] <Xotix> Just installed the virtaulbox guest additions, getting "The header for the current running kernel were not found", doesn't cause and fail/error but what does it mean?
[14:36] <Pici> katsunexubuntu: "yanick_", which is why I prefaced my comments with their name.
[14:37] <atlef> Xotix, http://askubuntu.com/questions/98416/error-kernel-headers-not-found-but-they-are-in-place
[14:37] <katsunexubuntu> Pici okay I"m sorry I didint saw the name,..
[14:39] <Xotix> atleaf thanks
[14:39] <atlef> np
[14:39] <arabi> how can I set Android Development Kit on ubuntu 12.12
[14:39] <arabi> 12.10*
[14:40] <yanick_> Pici, will take a look
[14:40] <atlef> arabi, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/android-sdk-installer-for-linux-debianubuntu
[14:43] <linuxearth> what is the best uploading site where we can upload many big files and with security?
[14:43] <ikonia> nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:43] <WDKevin> I understand Zentyal is preferred over Webmin, but when I look at the Zentyal website it appears that it is it's own distro. Is that the case?
[14:43] <WDKevin> linuxearth, try http://ge.tt
[14:43] <yanick_> Pici, I did try this already, but it's incompatible with Gnome 3
[14:44] <linuxearth> WDKevin: i try
[14:44] <linuxearth> thanks
[14:44] <Pici> yanick_: Sorry, I'm using xfce here and it works fine.  XBMC too.
[14:44] <linuxearth> the site is good
[14:45] <yanick_> Pici, yeah :) I'm not sure why the open source driver can't enable HDMI... isn't it a standard output device??
[14:45] <wooo> Can I transfer data between two pc's(windows to ubuntu) using ethernet ? and without using ip messenger as installing ip messenger giving me error.
[14:45] <linuxearth> sure
[14:47] <irv> wooo: samba would be the easiest i think
[14:47] <linuxearth> irv is correct
[14:49] <benkaiser> is there an api reference for making panel applets for unity?
[14:51] <blami> benkaiser: indicators?
[14:51] <blami> benkaiser: or dock icons?
[14:51] <benkaiser> is that what they are called? the ones next to the wifi, bluetooth and sound icons.
[14:51] <blami> benkaiser: indicators
[14:52] <blami> benkaiser: I'm right now working on unified keyboard indicator and I can recommend you to study code of message indicator (one used by gwibber, empathy and tbird)
[14:52] <blami> benkaiser: it's pretty understandable
[14:53] <benkaiser> blami: thanks! :)
[14:53] <mega1> why when i do fdisk -l it tells me that root doesn't contain a valid partition table
[14:54] <benkaiser> blami: I tried writing a panel applet the other day (I have one that controls my music laptop over ssh) and It just lacked a good api
[14:54] <mega1> it also says that swap_1 is the same
[14:54] <katsunexubuntu> hey guys anyone know any alternative for  intel graphics drivers?
[14:54] <katsunexubuntu> the default driver for my xubuntu doesnt seem to work right
[14:54] <katsunexubuntu> it causes screan tearing
[14:54] <katsunexubuntu> *screen
[14:55] <blami> benkaiser: i think it's all pretty uncommited type of interfaces and apis ... it may change anytime
[14:55] <blami> benkaiser: gnome and related projects really doesn't care about documentation a lot ...
[14:55] <blami> benkaiser: (my point of view)
[14:56] <katsunexubuntu> anyone,.?
[14:56] <kostas> kanenas ellinas?
[14:56] <benkaiser> blami: fair enough, it doesn't bother me... but is there at at least an indicator that someone has written that uses a lot of the features? would be handy to look at that source...
[14:57] <blami> benkaiser: messages indicator uses pretty much from what's available
[14:57] <bobbleit> Regarding the ubuntu announcement today: http://socloseyoucanalmostbobbleit.com/
[14:58] <benkaiser> blami: excuse my ignorance, where can I find the source for that? (I have only been using ubuntu for 3-5 months and just getting into the development of it now), also is it in python? because python is my most fluent of the languages available for the api...
[14:58] <Seveas> bobbleit, your photoshop skills suck :-)
[14:59] <bobbleit> Seveas, i know! :P
[15:00] <blami> benkaiser: apt-get source indicator-messages will work ... and not sure but it's very likely there's python binding to libindicator
[15:00] <mega1> i have sda1 2 and 5 what happened to 3 and 4
[15:01] <blami> mega1: have you ever heard about MBR and primary and extended partitions?
[15:01] <mega1> yes
[15:02] <benkaiser> blami: done, where do I find the source? roughly which directory...
[15:02] <lenovolkan> last 3h :)
[15:02] <blami> mega1: each MBR can hold only up to 4 primary partitions sda1-sda4
[15:02] <blim> hi, im noob but need to work something out plz help. I’ve been trying to installed amd drivers 12.10/11beta with no luck because my Ubuntu version is too new. but will Ubuntu 12.04 be ok for installing AMD drivers?
[15:03] <blami> mega1: basically sda1-sda4 are primary partitions and sda5+ are extended ones
[15:04] <compdoc> blim, it should. I recently could not install 12.10 because it wouldnt work with the video card on the pc. but 12.04 works perfectly
[15:04] <blami> it's weird and I am happy it's going to be obsoleted soon
[15:04] <mega1> blami: sda1 is linux sda2 is extended and sda5 is linux lvm
[15:05] <blim> so I shouldn't get this error with 12.04 "Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions"
[15:05] <blim> ?*
[15:05] <genteor> any free  irc client for ipad2?
[15:06] <ikonia> genteor: nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:06] <blami> mega1: sda1 is primary - i think it's your /boot partition which holds your kernel and boot loader files
[15:06] <ikonia> blim: have you dont --listpkg to verify if your distro is supported
[15:07] <blami> mega1: sda2 is extended - kind of container that holds other partitions sda5+
[15:07] <mega1> blami: what i did was cloned my old hd which was a 80gb onto a 500gb i am trying to find all my space
[15:07] <UltimaKR> can anybody help me with an error message i get when trying to install lubuntu?
[15:07] <atlef> !pastebin | UltimaKR
[15:08] <blim> i just get --listpkg: command not found
[15:08] <UltimaKR> ubottu: what are u talking about
[15:08] <atlef> UltimaKR, paste your eroor ther and link to it here
[15:09] <atlef> *there
[15:09] <blami> mega1: it should be possible to create another extended partition sized to rest ~420gigs and then format it as lvm pv and add it into your vg
[15:09] <atlef> *error
[15:09] <UltimaKR> "the creation of swap space in partition #5 of scsi1 (0 0 0) (sda) failed" is what I get
[15:09] <blami> mega1: I usually format new disk and simply copy everything and fix /etc/fstab
[15:10] <mega1> blami: when i fdsik -l it says disk /dev/mapper/tech-root: 43.6 gb and tech-swap_1 is 1535 mb  and both says does not contain valid partitions
[15:11] <mega1> blami: i am looking for the rest of my hd to format it
[15:11] <adamk> blim: --listpkg is an argument to the AMD installer...  You would run (for example): ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run --listpkg
[15:12] <benkaiser> blami: I just disconnected (internet dropped) did you message me?
[15:12] <adamk> Obviously use the name of the installer you downloaded.  That will list the distributions that you can build packages for using --buildpkg
[15:12] <blami> benkaiser: no but ... source should be in indicator-messages-VERSION/src directory
[15:13] <mega1> blami: i want to give my self ftp access to it
[15:13] <jhutchins_wk> mega1: You may be able to grow the partition to use all the space using gparted.
[15:13] <UltimaKR> blami: can you help me with this error i get when trying to install lubuntu? "the creation of swap space in partition #5 of scsi1 (0 0 0) (sda) failed" is what comes up
[15:13] <jhutchins_wk> mega1: Since you have the old disk as backup it's safe to try that.
[15:14] <blim> ok, trying to work out what info I need from this output
[15:14] <ikonia> blim: why are you trying to use beta enviornments
[15:14] <blami> UltimaKR: that's very generic ...
[15:14] <blami> UltimaKR: don't know what it can be ...
[15:14] <blim> I know it was a bad idea
[15:14] <ikonia> blim: the beta drivers I should say
[15:14] <adamk> blim: What video card do you have?
[15:14] <UltimaKR> blami: sorry I am a total noobie when it comes to this...why would that come up on a brand new hard drive?
[15:14] <ikonia> blim: why are you doing this ?
[15:15] <Zephron> is this the official ubuntu irc channel?
[15:15] <atlef> Zephron, yes
[15:15] <Zephron> got here from the ubuntu.com page..but don't really know
[15:15] <Zephron> ok..thx
[15:15] <blim> 6950 unlocked to 6970, 12.10 or 12.11beta have the same outcome
[15:16] <ikonia> blim: why are you doing this ?
[15:16] <ikonia> blim: why are you using beta drivers when you have no idea what you are dointg
[15:16] <adamk> blim: Wait...  Why not just use jockey to install the drivers packages for/by Ubuntu?
[15:16] <blim> Im simply trying to get one of the drivers to work
[15:16] <ikonia> blim: why are you using beta drivers when you have no idea what you are dointg
[15:17] <blim> I learn quick and its fun
[15:17] <mega1> jhutchins_wk: i have only putty access to the computer
[15:17] <ikonia> blim: why are you using beta drivers when you have no idea what you are doint
[15:17] <ikonia> blim: you're not learning, you're asking us to fix it/ do it for you
[15:17] <ikonia> blim: why not use the stable/known working drivers provided in the ubuntu repo
[15:17] <UltimaKR> ikonia: maybe he learns by example
[15:17] <blim> I know the problem, I need to know if I'll get the same problem with ubuntu 12.04
[15:18] <Eagleman> How do i fix this information?  The site's security certificate is not trusted!
[15:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: ask the site to fix their SSL certificate
[15:18] <Eagleman> i am hosting it :P
[15:18] <blim> because those drivers are slow and games run almost good
[15:18] <Eagleman> I have to buy a certificate?
[15:19] <UltimaKR> eagleman: everything is a money scam
[15:19] <wilmer> two computors on the network. Host computor have chared a folder in nautilus with guest-premissions. Client computor can find host when browsing network but when I double-click on the host I get "could not mount share- failed to get sharelist from server" why?
[15:19] <Eagleman> what
[15:19] <blim> ikonia: I dont have to use the beta driver, I am also using the 12.10 ones with the same outcome
[15:19] <UltimaKR> eagleman: yeah you need to buy a certificate, but is it necessary? I know that my antivirus will protect me even if I go to a nontrusted site
[15:20] <ikonia> blim: you don't have to use the beta drivers, but as you say, it's all learning, so good luck
[15:20] <Eagleman> so the only way to get rid of the message to buy a certificate?
[15:20] <UltimaKR> eagleman: if the people know you site to which they are headed, then they will know they are safe even if it says "not trusted"
[15:20] <UltimaKR> your*
[15:21] <blim> forget I even used the beta drivers, It was just me trying to see if the beta driver had a fix for this problem I was having
[15:21] <Eagleman> I know i can trust my own site, just wanted some information about how to get rid of that message
[15:23] <blim> does it show ive not slept in the past 31 hours or something?
[15:23] <Guest97349> hello
[15:23] <atlef> hi
[15:23] <blim> hi
[15:23] <wilmer> Eagleman, Don't know if I missed the beginning now but if you use https on a server that doesn't have a public certificate.. then you get this message... It's as simple as that.. You can not get around this if you use https
[15:24] <wilmer> two computors on the network. Host computor have chared a folder in nautilus with guest-premissions. Client computor can find host when browsing network but when I double-click on the host I get "could not mount share- failed to get sharelist from server" why?
[15:24] <Guest97349> somebody talk spanish here?
[15:24] <Eagleman> !es
[15:25] <gac> Eagleman: there should be a way for you to mark your "self-signed" certificate as trusted, you'll need to do it on every browser you use though. you'd be better off getting something like a free Startcom certificate, as their CA is included in major browsers so there's a high chance of it "just working" whichever computer/browser you happen to be using
[15:26] <gac> also, UltimaKR, that sounds like nonsense. I would never use an "untrusted" HTTPS site, it could imply some quite nasty things (i.e. phishing) which your AV can't protect you from
[15:26] <benkaiser> blami: thank you :)
[15:27] <Eagleman> thanks gac  do they also support wildcard domains?
[15:28] <gac> Eagleman: not sure, I've never needed to try. but you can have more than one free certificate, so you could just get a specific one for each domain (unless you have too many to be managable, in which case you should probably cough up for real certs anyhow)
[15:29] <Wuschii> im having some troubles when i try to install python-qt4. It says that there are some dependencies which should not be installed
[15:30] <Eagleman> gac:  We are currently receiving more requests than we can handle. Please try it later again.
[15:30] <davzie> Errm, what is this countdown about, I thought that Ubuntu was April / October releases
[15:30] <gac> they're releasing some new product davzie, it's not related to ubuntu linux
[15:30] <Wuschii> http://pastebin.com/7ycv1yQu
[15:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> what's the name of the gui version of the program that gives you a tree view of what folders are using what space?
[15:31] <gac> baobab?
[15:32] <tymnet> hey hey, happy new years :)
[15:32] <Zephron> happy new year! tymnet
[15:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> gac: that's it
[15:32] <Eagleman> i will come back later, thanks
[15:33] <gac> Eagleman: i just signed into startcom fine
[15:33] <gac> once i'd found my client certificate
[15:33] <gac> give it a go later on and see if it fits your needs :)
[15:33] <Eagleman> express lane gives me over capicity
[15:36] <toxboi> Hi everyone. I'm running lucid on a production machine and want to upgrade the php package >= 5.3.3 . I was wondering if I can use precise repository for the php packages as the latest version available in lucid is 5.3.2
[15:36] <tymnet> anyone know if users are still getting banned for playing diablo 3 on wine?
[15:37] <bazhang> tymnet, thats not on topic here
[15:37] <bazhang> toxboi, never mix repo versions
[15:37] <tymnet> ah ill try find the wine station
[15:37] <tymnet> thanks
[15:37] <bazhang> tymnet, #winehq
[15:38] <toxboi> bazhang: yep, I'm aware of that. Is there a solution for this apart from compiling from source or using third party repos.
[15:38] <bazhang> toxboi, find a PPA perhaps
[15:38] <toxboi> bazhang: I did but that's third party and not patched.
[15:39] <antithesis> Hello
[15:40] <tymnet> thanks bazhang trooper :)
[15:42] <tymnet> is there any way of telling if your install of ubuntu is correct. I don't really know what i'm doing and i've used sudo apt-get install sudo apt-get remove a few times?
[15:43] <toxboi> tymnet: If you're referring to the winehq package, the repo has the stable version.
[15:44] <tymnet> ah nah i'm not. i mean in a general sense
[15:44] <toxboi> You may need to check if it has compatibility issues.
[15:44] <tymnet> i've not installed wine yet
[15:44] <iceroot> tymnet: if "sudo dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc" is not showing anything all the packages are installed fine
[15:44] <toxboi> tymnet: unless you've installed any third party repo, things should be almost stable.
[15:45] <tymnet> ah nice thanks iceroot
[15:45] <tymnet> that's the thing
[15:45] <bieb> I installed 12.04 server before the holidays.. everything was working fine, I have a static IP and downloaded software and updates.. today I am not able to get to any sites I tried apt-get update and it fails with "unknown host", same error if I try to ping anything. I have looked at /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original and the correct DNS servers are in there.. any ideas where to look next? I can remote into the server by IP so I am guessing DNS is my issu
[15:46] <tymnet> should i post what was reported?
[15:46] <tymnet> it's stable
[15:46] <tymnet> toxboi,
[15:46] <tymnet> just cleaning up
[15:47] <iew_paul> bieb: have you set the nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces using the dns-nameservers statement?
[15:47] <blim> can anyone tell me a program that works on linux for creating usb installer with the ubuntu 12.04 iso?
[15:47] <iceroot> !usb | blim
[15:47] <atlef> !unetbootin
[15:48] <iew_paul> bieb: "dns-nameservers 10.0.5.74 10.0.5.77"
[15:48] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: Can you resolve hostnames with the host command?
[15:48] <blim> thanks
[15:48] <tymnet> iceroot, should i post the results from the command sudo dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc?
[15:48] <iceroot> !paste | tymnet
[15:49] <tymnet> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[15:49] <tymnet> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[15:49] <tymnet> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[15:49] <tymnet> ||/ Name                                   Version                                                                 Description
[15:49] <FloodBot1> tymnet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <iceroot> tymnet: until now nothing is reported there, its just the header with some infos
[15:50] <tymnet> I don't follow you iceroot
[15:50] <tymnet> btw i love workspace switcher :)
[15:50] <blim> if I redownload ubuntu will it be difference from the one I payed for?
[15:50] <bieb> iew_paul: no.. just IP, netmask and gateway in interfaces. I thought the resolv.conf handled the dns
[15:50] <wilmer> two computors on the network. Host computor have chared a folder in nautilus with guest-premissions. Client computor can find host when browsing network but when I double-click on the host I get "could not mount share- failed to get sharelist from server" why?
[15:50] <mega1> how do i setup a user and give them ftp access only yo 1 folder
[15:51] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: Can you resolve hostnames with the host command?
[15:51] <DJones> blim: What did you pay for?
[15:51] <blim> payed what I thought it was worth"*
[15:52] <bieb> jhutchins_wk: I have never used host command.. let me look up how to test
[15:52] <iew_paul> bieb: I've had resolv.conf be overwritten on me in 12.04
[15:52] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: host google.com
[15:52] <xangua> blim: you did not pay, you donated
[15:52] <jhutchins_wk> iew_paul: dhcp will do that, but I believe he said he had static.
[15:52] <jhutchins_wk> xangua: you can also pay depending on where you get it.
[15:53] <bieb> jhutchins_wk: "connection timed out; no server could be reached"
[15:53] <blim> and id happily  donate more but id rather be of some help myself
[15:53] <jhutchins_wk> blim: Did you get a disk from ubuntu or somewhere?
[15:53] <bieb> iew_paul: static IP
[15:53] <xangua> jhutchins_wk: blim you need to know the diference betweenm pay and donate
[15:54] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: That sounds more like a networking/gateway issue, although you say you can connect by ip.  Can you ping an external IP?
[15:54] <blim> you guys need to take a chill pill
[15:54] <DJones> blim: Who did you pay? You can make donations to Canonical, but you may have paid somebody to install the system, unless whoever you've paid have added apps, you'll probably get the same thing if you download it
[15:54] <blim> donate** yes
[15:54] <Touhou11> blim: Be aware that if you're donating, Canonical is a for-profit private company. You'd be better donating to Debian
[15:54] <toxboi> bieb: I've a feeling that maybe the DNS server provided by your hosting provider is not working anymore. Give google's public DNS a try and check if that helps.
[15:54] <DJones> blim: In that case, what you download should be the same regardless of what you donate
[15:55] <bieb> jhutchins_wk: I can connect to server via ip using putty.. can not ping outside ip..
[15:55] <blim> I donated from ubuntu side just before I downloaded the iso
[15:55] <jhutchins_wk> Whether he "paid" or "donated" is irrelevant to his question.
[15:55] <bieb> toxboi: 8.8.8.8?
[15:55] <Touhou11> I'd avoid Google's DNS for privacy reasons
[15:55] <toxboi> bieb: yep
[15:55] <ikonia> good lord
[15:55] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: Sounds like it doesn't know what it's gateway should be.  That should be in the interfaces file.
[15:55] <ikonia> privacy reasons....they are dns servers
[15:55] <blim> I dont wont help with the driver problem anymore just chill man
[15:55] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: You can use the route command to see what it is now.
[15:56] <blim> Ive worked out the problem like i was told to do XD
[15:56] <bieb> jhutchins_wk: route gives correct gateway
[15:56] <Touhou11> ikonia: Yes, and you have no idea the software which is providing the DNS service
[15:57] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: That's very strange.  Is there a firewall on the gateway?
[15:57] <ikonia> Touhou11: so....it's a dns server, it maps domain names to IP's
[15:57] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: Can you ping the gateway?
[15:57] <blim> and anyway I just wanted confirmation, that was all. Its not hard to give a person a push in the right direction
[15:57] <Touhou11> ikonia: I strongly suspect Google is recording every DNS request and correlating it with all the other data they hold on each person
[15:57] <bieb> I will check with the network guy.. I thought this address was cleared
[15:57] <Touhou11> ikonia: It's your choice anyway, just alerting people to the issues
[15:57] <bieb> jhutchins_wk: yeah I can ping gateway
[15:58] <toxboi> Touhou11: I agree. In this case, we just want to rule out the hosting provider's DNS server issue.
[15:58] <ikonia> Touhou11: your making up an issue...and warning people of something you have no proof of, please don't spread fud
[15:58] <jhutchins_wk> bieb: Yeah, definitely check with network guy.
[15:58] <Touhou11> ikonia: You're right, there's no proof in this instance, but looking at Google's long history of privacy violations there are reasons to be concerned
[15:58] <ikonia> Touhou11: please don't spread FUD
[15:58] <bieb> toxboi: should I put google dns in interfaces file? or resolve?
[15:59] <DJones> Touhou11: Googles privacy issues aren't really a problem for the ubuntu support channel
[15:59] <Touhou11> ikonia: I suggest you read up on the issue
[15:59] <ikonia> Touhou11: please don't spread FUD
[15:59] <toxboi> bieb: I did first try in resolv.conf and restart networking to check if that helps.
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Touhou11, so what's google going to do with the info , spam you like they are already doing?
[16:00] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[16:00] <Touhou11> BluesKaj: I couldn't say, I don't work for Google
[16:00] <bazhang> Touhou11, see above
[16:00] <bieb> toxboi: resolv.conf says do not edit, that is handled by resolvconf
[16:00]  * toxboi regrets bringing google into the channel. Apologies.
[16:03] <toxboi> bieb: That's alright. We're just trying to test if that works.
[16:03] <bieb> toxboi: ok.. I will try it
[16:03] <abh_> hi
[16:04] <abh_> isn't there a kernel with grsecurity support?
[16:04] <abh_> and if i want to recompile it manually, isn't there problem with ubuntu kenrel source?
[16:04] <abh_> or i've to use vanilla kernel?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> bieb, add the nemeservers to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , igonotr the do not edit warning , it writes to resolv.conf
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ignore the do not edit warning , that is , bieb
[16:06] <blim> in regards to gaming, is there any reason I shouldn't use 64bit?
[16:06] <bieb> BluesKaj: thanks
[16:08] <blim> well thanks for the help with what Ubuntu version to use with amd drivers. have a good one and happy new year
[16:08] <BluesKaj> bieb, I think those setting will hold if you arent using network manager , otherwise NM will overwrite them each session
[16:09] <bieb> BluesKaj: ok.. will try that
[16:09] <blim> peace
[16:13] <tymnet> anyone know how to drop the mouse sensitivity lower when it's already at the lowest point. acceleration too.
[16:13] <kjslater> So I've progressed to having a new version of grub on my broken 11.04 upgrade attempt. Now it just drops me into the grub prompt.
[16:14] <Touhou11> tymnet: You can set it manually in xorg.conf or similar
[16:14] <tymnet> i have no idea how to do that
[16:15] <tymnet> im new
[16:15] <bitplane> hi guys, how do I see gmail contacts in the contacts app? Online Accounts doesn't say it integrates with Google's contacts and I have no options for online accounts in the contacts app
[16:15] <kjslater> Can anyone walk me through entering the proper grub options to attempt a boot?
[16:16] <Touhou11> tymnet: http://www.x.org/archive/current/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.xhtml
[16:16] <arabi> my guake terminal is not opening on 12.10 ... tried reinstalling but not working ... :(
[16:17] <tymnet> Touhou11, you need su to edit xorg?
[16:20] <marenostrum> Hi, what for is that countdown on ubuntu.com?
[16:20] <benkaiser> I am installing the fglrx-experimental-9 as steam suggests, and my main monitor can work at 2560 but AMD Catalyst only sees my external monitor (attached by thunderbolt-vga adapter) as 640x480. How can I fix this?
[16:27] <Zabrien> I would like to expand my root partition, but gparted says that expanding using the free space preceding it may cause problems with booting. How can I make sure I can still boot from the partition?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> marenostrum  we think it's for andriod
[16:27] <ct529> hi there! Gimp is crashing everytime I try to open or save a file, anyone with the same problem?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> android*
[16:27] <marenostrum_> MonkeyDust, Thanks. (I won't tell anyone!)
[16:29] <ct529> gimp 2.8.2 on 64bit ubuntu 12.10
[16:30] <devsys> Hi everyone. Just rebooted my Ubuntu workstation and am getting a kernel panic error. Here is a screenshot (the wkstation is virtual): http://imgur.com/FsP6i. I tried googling a bit but am really lost as to how to begin troubleshooting this. Any help is appreciated!
[16:36] <ct529> I get (script-fu:18693): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read(): error
[16:36] <Mermen> Hi there. I've updated to 10.04. I have to re-connect to ti internet after start up. I found a solution to the connection dropping on the Ubuntu forum. Would anyone know why it is forgetting passwords?
[16:36] <ct529> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:36] <Mermen> 12.04, sorry
[16:40] <blim_> who was the guy that was telling me not to use AMD beta drivers if I dont know what I'm doing?
[16:41] <compdoc> blim_, was he right?
[16:42] <blim_> I dont know yet, but I have a gift for him
[16:42] <blim_> more than licky
[16:42] <abh_> so, well, nobody uses grsecurity on newer ubuntu kernel... :)
[16:44] <blim_> I just want to light his mood with a gift but I cant remember his name
[16:44] <bazhang> !ot | blim_
[16:46] <blim_> happy new year to you too
[16:46] <bazhang> blim_, stop with the chit chat
[16:47] <blim_> ok?
[16:51] <newb1e> hi
[16:51] <Slart> so, what is the countdown on the main ubuntu site for? we're between releases, right? or has something changed?
[16:52] <newb1e> can anyone help me,please ?
[16:52] <youquex> Are there mirrors for the cannonical "partners" server?  If so, is there a list anywhere.
[16:52] <DJones> Slart: Give it another hour, all will be revealed then
[16:52] <Slart> newb1e: just ask your question, if someone knows they will answer
[16:52] <Slart> DJones: I was afraid you'd say that..  =)
[16:53] <devsys> hey guys trying to fix my kernel panic errors, lbotted into a live cd and selected the toption to rescue a machine. It is now asking to setup the network, a hostname and im sure more as I advance. Is this going to be written to my exsisting server or is it just some base config for the live CD to run from memory?
[16:53] <Slart> DJones: If they come up with something that will make me have to redownload another iso I will be slightly miffed
[16:53] <newb1e> How to secure Ubuntu Server 12.04 ?
[16:53] <newb1e> .eg ,blocking port scan
[16:53] <aboudreault> newb1e, google for iptable
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> newb1e  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSecurityTools
[16:53] <aboudreault> there surement a lot of tutorials
[16:54] <beethoven8201> newb1e: there's a gui for the firewall as wel
[16:54] <Slart> newb1e: you might want to google for "how to harden ubuntu server" .. I think that's the term mostly used.. but there has to be something on the ubuntu wiki.. let me look around, see what I can find
[16:54] <beethoven8201> *well
[16:54] <newb1e> k, i try
[16:54] <beethoven8201> does ubuntu work well on tablets?
[16:54] <beethoven8201> or work at all?
[16:55] <CookieM> it depends
[16:55] <bhavesh> beethoven8201: ubuntu for nexus 7 is going to be available soon.
[16:55] <beethoven8201> I wonder if that's the announcement in 1 hr
[16:55] <Slart> newb1e: this seems like a good start.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/94045/how-to-secure-ubuntu-server some of the links are to older documentation but the general idea is still the same for newer versions
[16:55] <rmi> Hi. Sound is somewhat quiet on my Thinkpad X230 running 12.10. I can set it to 200% in sound options, which seems to be okay, but I don't want to go to sound seetings every time. Can I make 200% (or more, if possible) the default maximum? So that I can use the normal controls to go that high.
[16:55] <Transfusion> "so close you can *touch* it..." I think so...
[16:56] <CookieM> for example, 12.04 is rock-solid on my lap; whereas 12.10 appeared to be a disaster
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> CookieM: clean install of both I assume?
[16:57] <newb1e> Slart : thank you :)
[16:57] <newb1e> thank you guys , nice support ;)
[16:57] <Mongolski> hej
[16:57] <CookieM> i'm on 12.04 at the moment and i'm happy with it
[16:58] <CookieM> hej Mongolski
[16:58] <devsys> Hi everyone. Just rebooted my Ubuntu workstation and am getting a kernel panic error. Here is a screenshot (the wkstation is virtual): http://imgur.com/FsP6i. I tried googling a bit but am really lost as to how to begin troubleshooting this. Any help is appreciated!
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> CookieM: but was the quantal install an upgrade from precise?
[16:58] <devsys> I just tried to reinstall grub via the ubuntu recovery option and it is doign the same thing
[16:58] <devsys> I was able to mount the filesystem and see the files, so everything appears to be there.
[16:58] <CookieM> ActionParsnip, clean install from dvd
[16:59] <devsys> Not sure what else to do...
[16:59] <Basil1x> 12.04lts here... my sound ikon has gone from the top bar.  how can I get it back?  also, sound keeps stopping, but one thing at a time.
[17:00] <CookieM> i erased the whole partition by parted magic before installation
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Devsys: hold SHIFT at boot, do older kernels load k?
[17:01] <jtd> why does this say "#ubuntu-unregged" when I am in fact registered?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> CookieM: weird. Not had an issue. Been on raring since October and still no issues :)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Jtd: I'd ask in #freenode
[17:02] <devsys> Action: I got this error with the older kernel listed ( 2.6.35-22-generic ) http://imgur.com/5WwPd
[17:02] <CookieM> ActionParsnip, i'm on precise from the premiere and nothing serious happened but wanted to give quantal a try and it failed
[17:03] <jtd> so, I have Ubuntu Quantal authing to AD for logins and it seems to be working well. I created /home/DOMAIN for domain accounts to have their home directories created, but instead of creating home directories it's just complaining they don't have one and putting them in /. How do I get it to create their homedir on login if it doesn't exist?
[17:03] <jhutchins_wk> devsys: Can you boot to the previous kernel?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> CookieM: no bad thing. Lts is nice to have
[17:03] <devsys> no jhutchins_wk the screenshot I posted above is the error from the previous kernel.
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> jtd  #ubuntu-server
[17:03] <jtd> thanks MonkeyDust
[17:04] <devsys> I also posted a screenshot of the kernel panic error from the current kernel
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Jtd: or #samba
[17:04] <Basil1x> Anyone any good at sound issues?
[17:04] <devsys> I don't get what is broken, since It mounts in recovery more from a live cd and I can see the data
[17:04] <Basil1x> bcos I seem to have them all
[17:05] <kingsmith> whoa
[17:05] <kingsmith> 1714
[17:05] <Basil1x> Is there any way to completely reinstall all sound <alsa AND PulseAudio>?
[17:06] <kingsmith> lol
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Devsys: I recommend you boot to liveCD and fsck your partitions
[17:06] <devsys> ActionParsnip: ok I will do that now
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> !sound > Basil1x
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Kingsmith: on release days its a lot more
[17:07] <mcsmash> This is really cool! :D
[17:07] <mcsmash> http://walterhiggins.net/blog/ScriptCraft
[17:07] <kingsmith> there's some sorta release in 50 min
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Kingsmith: how do you mran?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Mean*
[17:09] <kingsmith> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[17:09] <kingsmith> try that
[17:09] <youquex> Ok, so no one knows if there are mirrors for the cannonical "partner" repo?  Obviously you can change mirrors to another server for everything else, but what about the partner repo?
[17:09] <pero_p> hi all
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Kingsmith: the next release is in April,  not in 50 mind...
[17:10] <himura> Hi all
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Mins (still getting used to tablet kboard)
[17:10] <Pici> ActionParsnip: There is *something* being announced in 50 minutes.
[17:10] <beachbrake> in ubuntu
[17:10]  * beachbrake breathes fresh air.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Pici: nice and vague :)
[17:11] <pero_p> why linux movie players can't play broken video files and windows can?! windows players like kmplayer skip bad parts and plays video nicely.
[17:11] <pero_p> ?
[17:11] <krishna_> Hii...can we make ubuntu as a client of microsoft isa server//
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Pici  probably ubuntu tv or android something
[17:12] <yfi> pero_p: did you try mplayer?
[17:12] <pero_p> yfi, i installed SMPlayer
[17:12] <pero_p> yfi, seems using mplayer to play video files, still stop at bad parts :|
[17:12] <tjr9898> I am trying to use virtualbox as a regular user.  I added the user to the lp, user, and vboxuser groups.  But still does not work.  What should I look into?
[17:13] <Ther0ot_> hi all
[17:13] <himura> Hi, someone know how disable changing wallpaper in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Tgr9898: sudo usermod -a -G vboxuser $USER
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> tjr9898  open a terminal and type this line       sudo modprobe vboxdrv;sudo modprobe vboxnetflt
[17:14] <Ther0ot_> is there any body have good knowledge in ubuntu cloud?
[17:15] <pero_p> why linux movie players can't play broken video files and windows can?! windows players like kmplayer skip bad parts and plays video nicely? i even used vlc and mplayer, no effect.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Ther0ot_: ask your real question and see :-)
[17:15] <yfi> pero_p: assuming the kmplayer you are refering to is http://kmplayer.kde.org/, then the result should be the same
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> pero_p  try vlc
[17:15] <arabi> hey guys i have an information for you : IF YOU DISABLE libnotify on 12.10 YOU CAN'T RUN GUAKE TERMINA.... thanks.... :)
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Pero_p: vlc does it
[17:15] <chaospsychex> arabi: 0.o
[17:16] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, any configuration for vlc to do it? i even used vlc but it stops at bad parts
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Arabi: have you reported a bug?
[17:16] <TheLordOfTime> arabi, no need for caps by the way
[17:16] <arabi> ActionParsnip, where I have to report
[17:16] <Ther0ot_> mmm ok actionP
[17:17] <pero_p> MonkeyDust, the problem still there even with vlc :|
[17:17] <devsys> ActionParsnip: it is saying I should use xfs_check and xfs_repair instead of fsck. Never used these tools. Ran xfs_check and it reported a bunch of errors. Should I go ahead and try a repair? Or should I use fsck like you initially suggested?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Pero_p: Just works here. What is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[17:17] <chaospsychex> arabi: first maybe you should see if guake utilises libnotify maybe ?
[17:17] <pero_p> MonkeyDust, think i need special codecs
[17:17] <tjr9898> @MonkeyDust - no output and still permission denied.  #virtualbox
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Arabi: run:    ubuntu-bug guake
[17:17] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, precise
[17:18] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, it's ubuntu 12.04 precise
[17:18] <chaospsychex> ! 12.04
[17:18] <arabi> chaospsychex, how can determine the dependency please
[17:18] <makerbreakr> where does ubuntu builder save the ISO?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Devsys: sounds like an unhealthy partition,  it may fix the boot issue
[17:18] <chaospsychex> arabi: what? how did you install guake? you need to check if libnotify is present ?
[17:19] <chaospsychex> arabi: you shouldn't have dependency issues if you installed using the pkg manager...
[17:19] <Ther0ot_> i want to make private cloud by open stack but i stuck in (setup user credentials)
[17:19] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, is there any room for vlc here that i can join and ask?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !codecs | pero_p then maybe tis is useful to you
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Pero_p: let me search.  #videolan may exist
[17:19] <arabi> chaospsychex, i used apt-get
[17:19] <Ther0ot_> can u help in this?
[17:20] <michagogo> !gnome
[17:20] <Ther0ot_> hello???
[17:21] <michagogo> Is there a way to get rid of unite and return to gnome?
[17:21] <michagogo> s/unite/unity/
[17:21] <pero_p> MonkeyDust, thanks
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> !notunity > michagogo
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Pero_p: what version of vlc?
[17:21] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, VLC media player 2.0.3 Twoflower
[17:22] <Ro> Hello, where would I be able to get help with the program Jack?
[17:22] <Ro> http://jackaudio.org/
[17:22] <himura> Hi, someone know how disable changing wallpaper in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Michagogo: unity is a shell for gnome, it doesn't replace it
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Himura: set a static image as the wallpaper
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> himura  right click on the desktop, change deskto background
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> desktop*
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Pero: could try a PPA for a newer version.  May help. Could also try renaming ~/.config/vlc  then rerun the application
[17:24] <Ther0ot_>  i want to make private cloud by open stack but i stuck in (setup user credentials) is there any body can help "in clouding"
[17:24] <tjr9898> +MonkeyDust - no output and still permission denied.  #virtualbox
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Michagogo: if you like the gnome2 feel, use xfce. You can also install gnome-panel to get the gnome2 desktop session but its a bit weird
[17:25] <himura> Thanks MonkeyDust
[17:25] <himura> Thanks ActionParsnip
[17:26] <Basil1x> I reinstalled alsa... but the ikon has not returned. also, the sound still craps up.  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=baa18f799b1ade3df8ab6653686b60bf0ef2ed35
[17:26] <pero_p> .
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Basil1x: try: killall pulseaudio;  rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and reboot
[17:28] <hippiehacker> https://gist.github.com/4436283 # is creation of default CAs for firefox possible, _before_or_at_ profile creation?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Basil1x: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1796427.html
[17:29] <Ther0ot_> no one here know about cloud
[17:31] <Basil1x> OK... did killall and rebooted... sound ikon still not in top bar
[17:33] <ActionParsnip>  Basil1x: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1796427.html
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> The0ot: I know of it, I just don't use ubuntu cloud
[17:35] <res22> what is the download timer for on ubuntu.com?
[17:35] <kylescottmcgill> Basil1x: start the gnome-sound-applet
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> res22  probably ubuntu tv or soemthing android related
[17:36] <kylescottmcgill> That will give your icon back
[17:36] <socrates_johnson> hello, i just purchased an asus windows 8 laptop and am trying to wipe it to dual-boot windows 7 and ubuntu. i installed windows 7 but when i boot from the ubuntu live cd to install linux the entire harddrive appears as "unallocated"
[17:36] <socrates_johnson> i'm new to all the uefi/secure boot stuff so i'm sure i'm messing something up there
[17:36] <kylescottmcgill> socrates_johnson: parition it first inside Windows, then come back and use that parition
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Res22: an announcement of some kind
[17:36] <res22> ah
[17:37] <res22> I can feel the excitement
[17:37] <kylescottmcgill> is it the new 13.04 or something?
[17:37] <kylescottmcgill> lol sweet im glad i was up at this time
[17:38] <Basil1x> ummm is something supposed to happen when I start this applet.  Terminal just sits there
[17:38] <kylescottmcgill> it should spawn a Sound icon in your bar
[17:39] <socrates_johnson> kylescottmcgill: that's what i've done in the past but none of the partitions appear in linux at all. the entire 750 gb is unallocated (even though there are two partitions from the windows installation)
[17:39] <Basil1x> OK... it didn't.
[17:39] <xibalba> I have a list of IPs in file 'A.txt', I want to see if these IPs are in 'B.txt'. If they're not in B.txt, I would like output so I know what to add from A to B, any thoughts?
[17:39] <kylescottmcgill> socrates_johnson: Windows 8 / 7 havnt changed parition types have they?
[17:39] <xibalba> plz type my name if you have some though so i can see it
[17:40] <kylescottmcgill> uefi should effect your Parition Map
[17:40] <makerbreakr> xibalba man diff
[17:40] <kylescottmcgill> shouldn**
[17:40] <xibalba> man diff....yea
[17:40] <kylescottmcgill> Basil1x: what Window Mnager are you using?
[17:40] <Basil1x> lightdm
[17:40] <xibalba> the lines aren't exactly arranged the same, one is a config file, one is just a file of ip addresses
[17:41] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, tnx, i tried disabling "Preload MKV files in the same directory" in Input/Codecs->Demuxers->Matroska, and now problem seems to be solved. ;)
[17:41] <pero_p> ActionParsnip, in VLC of course
[17:41] <socrates_johnson> kylescottmcgill: does it matter if i do the installations with secure boot disabled? the only setup options that seem relevant are "secure boot" (enabled by default) and "launch csm" (enabled by default)
[17:41] <xibalba> i ran diff A.txt B.txt, wasn't too helpful
[17:41] <kylescottmcgill> Basil1x: lightdm is the login screen, what are you using after this?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Xibalba: join the 2 files, then use sort and uniq to mske the final list.
[17:42] <Basil1x> kylescottmcgill: lightdm, Unity. also have KDE, kdm and gdm installed
[17:42] <xibalba> ActionParsnip, even if they're totally different in structure?
[17:42] <xibalba> one is a config file, one is a simple list of ip addresses
[17:42] <kylescottmcgill> socrates_johnson: i dont think so.. but you could try disabling them, sorry im not sure
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Xibalba: then you'll need to grep for IP addresses in the file
[17:43] <xibalba> i tried that with grep -vn -f A.txt B.txt
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Pero_p: cool
[17:43] <xibalba> didn't seem to work
[17:43] <socrates_johnson> kylescottmcgill: no worries, i've tried it both ways but it doesn't seem to make a difference. although you can also boot off of the dvd/cd using uefi mode (or not)
[17:45] <xibalba> i think i need to grep B.txt to Awk then do a comparison
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Xibalba: i'd ask in #bash
[17:45] <xibalba> i can regex my grep search for an IP right ?
[17:45] <beethoven8201> you tried diff, xibalba ?
[17:45] <xibalba> yeah, didn't get what i wa slooking for
[17:45] <beethoven8201> you should sort before diff fyi
[17:46] <xibalba> structure of the two files is different
[17:46] <beethoven8201> you can grab ips first then diff that
[17:46] <xibalba> thats what i'm trying to do with grep/awk right now
[17:47] <beethoven8201> sed might work too
[17:47] <beethoven8201> search for things that match regex, replace them with a new line before and after, grep out just those lines, diff after sorting
[17:48]  * Basil1x has decided to clean-install 13.04, and see if that helps the BS sound issues... tired of futzing with this thing.  if there are still issues when I've done that, will be back :)
[17:48] <Basil1x> TTFN, and thanks for the help
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> Basil1x  mind: support in #ubuntu+1
[17:50] <alusion> where is the usual place to save shell scripts?
[17:51] <RollinV2> ubuntu.com countdown almost done... 10min
[17:51] <alusion> my body is ready
[17:51] <me_> hi
[17:51] <me_> i have port 80 open why ?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> me_  port 80 is for http
[17:52] <me_> but why it's open ?
[17:52] <me_> in grc test
[17:53] <xibalba> success!
[17:53] <xibalba> Thanks Action
[17:53] <xibalba> and others
[17:54] <me_> success on what ?
[17:54] <Lockal> Awww so close, so close!
[17:54] <Lockal> and still can't touch it :)
[17:55] <lenovolkan> last 5
[17:55]  * RobinJ prepares to be disappointed
[17:55] <root404> hi guys
[17:55] <root404> hi everyone
[17:56]  * Neshemah prepares to be disappointed too
[17:56] <spjt> I'm hoping the big announcement is that my printer will now work
[17:56] <root404> i was trying to change the interface on ubuntu
[17:56] <me_> what you can't touch
[17:56] <root404> any help?
[17:56] <RobinJ> my guess is something related to ubuntu for android
[17:56] <RobinJ> does anyone know which irc channel these guys are using? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1CvVf9K7H00#!
[17:56] <Pici> Feel free to discuss the announcement in #ubuntu-discuss, and keep #ubuntu free for the folks still looking for support.
[17:57] <Neshemah> oh 3 minutes 3 minutes
[17:57] <Pici> RobinJ: if thats the hangout, then #ubuntu-discuss
[17:57] <beethoven8201> 3 minutes to countdown
[17:57] <beethoven8201> better be nexus7
[17:57] <RobinJ> Pici, thanks
[17:57] <root404> i was trying to change the interface on ubuntu
[17:57] <root404> any help?
[17:57] <Pici> Neshemah, beethoven8201: Can we please keep #ubuntu open for support only, #ubuntu-discuss for the announcement, etc.
[17:57] <Neshemah> Yes yes.
[17:58] <Neshemah> Sorry, wrong channel, I have lots of them opened.
[17:58] <Pici> root404: If you're having a problem you'll need to explain it exactly, we can't read minds.
[17:58] <Lockal> "So close, you can almost apt-get it."
[17:58] <root404> hahaha
[17:58] <root404> ok
[17:59] <root404> sorry
[17:59] <root404> ma english are not that good
[17:59] <sikory> hey notbryant
[17:59] <ian_> isantop
[17:59] <backbox> hello
[18:00] <Lockal> loading
[18:00] <hausmann> hi, i have some games from humble bundle installed in the software manager. when i upgraded to quantal the PPAs are inactivated, how do i fix this?
[18:01] <bluefoxxx> what's the big flowery countdown on ubuntu.com?
[18:01] <crshbndct> hausmann: you need to install the paps
[18:01] <me_> tel me
[18:01] <hausmann> crshbndct: apps? a second time you mean?
[18:01] <crshbndct> ppas
[18:01] <notbryant> bluefoxxx: haven't you heard? they just released "spinning circle 1.0"
[18:01] <sikory> hey crshbndct, you here as well?
[18:01] <xangua> hausmann: third party repositories are temporary disabled so they don't interfiere with the upgrade
[18:01] <crshbndct> sikory: notbryant ohey
[18:02] <notbryant> ohai
[18:02] <Calinou> tablets ftw :D
[18:02] <hausmann> xangua: okay but it seems it's permanent since i'm done with the upgrade :/
[18:02] <MrPopinjay> Is the site down?
[18:02] <hausmann> since yesterday
[18:02] <Calinou> of course it is
[18:02] <matc21> website down...
[18:02] <Calinou> tim cook approves
[18:02] <bluefoxxx> ~frontpage
[18:03] <bluefoxxx> ~spinning circle
[18:03] <bluefoxxx> ubottu, what the heck is going on with ubuntu.com?
[18:03] <trimeta> I can still hit the frontpage, but aside from the countdown being 00:00:00, nothing new.
[18:03] <MrPopinjay> Well this countdown has gone well
[18:03] <cdavis> mine shows 00:00:00 wait left :)
[18:03] <notbryant> countdown was a fantastic idea!
[18:03] <Pici> Feel free to discuss the announcement in #ubuntu-discuss, and keep #ubuntu free for the folks still looking for support.
[18:03] <xangua> hausmann: so you can't go to software center, edit, sources and enable the third party repositories¿
[18:03] <notbryant> everyone hit the site at once!
[18:04] <Lockal> "So close, you can 00:00:00 it."
[18:04] <Trunks2k5_> will be a new system released for tablets?
[18:04] <iceroot> http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
[18:04] <mcrawfor> lulz
[18:04] <kaiserfarrell> loading...
[18:05] <c3l> finally a site that loads
[18:05] <mcrawfor> countdown to...... homepage being down!
[18:05] <lix> ... so? - what * is*  it? - Ubuntu website being DDosed deliberately?
[18:05] <kaiserfarrell> still loading
[18:05] <FabianS> Maybe they did dist-upgrade on their webserver.
[18:05] <hrnz> hey FabianS ;)
[18:05] <notbryant> maybe their server is running windows
[18:05] <ZAKhan> ubuntu for phones
[18:05] <hrnz> or ubuntu..
[18:05] <bluefoxxx> iceroot, if the phone OS works as well as the software running the Web site, it'll finally push Windows Phone 8 right out of the running.
[18:05] <Calinou> server runs on windows RT
[18:05] <mcrawfor> every single computer watching the countdown trying to load the video simultaneously
[18:06] <mcrawfor> results in self-ddos
[18:06] <vivid> so close, you can almost crash it
[18:06] <josePHPagoda> hello everyone.  I'm running the virtual machine manager, with ubuntu as a host, and ubuntu as guest.  This works fine, but I can't get file system passthrough to work.  It mounts in th guest, but no matter what I do I get "permission denied" in the guest.  Any ideas?
[18:06] <mcrawfor> so close you can almost touch it. Almost.
[18:06] <MrPopinjay> haha
[18:06] <david23400> the website SUX
[18:06] <kaiserfarrell> loading and waiting,,,
[18:06] <ZAKhan> ubuntu.com is refeshed now ..
[18:06] <lix> did anyone touch "it" yet?
[18:06] <mcrawfor> i'm touching it right now
[18:07] <david23400> NO it fucked my nervs
[18:07] <FabianS> So ubuntu is going to fail together with mozilla now?
[18:07] <lix> mcrawfor: what do you get?
[18:07] <Pici> Can we please move announcement discussion to #ubuntu-discuss.  There are people looking for support here in #ubuntu
[18:07] <IdleOne> !language | david23400
[18:07] <Calinou> no u
[18:07] <lix> Pici: roger
[18:07] <mcrawfor> lix: you understand when you're older
[18:07] <Lockal> So close, but only Mark Shuttleworth can touch it.
[18:07] <djono_> hello just got xchat on lubuntu i cant receive files
[18:07] <crshbndct> so the announcement was aboslutely nothing then? what a let down
[18:07] <Lockal> "Perfectly distilled" -- yep, ubuntu phone
[18:07] <FabianS> crshbndct: Well, they announced some vaporware.
[18:07] <bluefoxxx> Lockal, so the phone is available in Africa?
[18:08] <Calinou> djono_: you have to forward ports to use DCC, also DCC is beyond pointless in 2012
[18:08] <Calinou> 2013*
[18:08] <sc30317> what is going on with the ubuntu homepage?
[18:08] <sc30317> the announcement is making it drag
[18:08] <djono_> so how would i do that?
[18:08] <josePHPagoda> anyone here every used the VMM?
[18:08] <david23400> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
[18:08] <crshbndct> FabianS: yeah, on a year old platform.
[18:09] <Lockal> For those who are loading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
[18:11] <ciastek> Has anything been revealed at ubuntu.com ?
[18:11] <bluefoxxx> Calinou, djono_, there's a setting somewhere in like /etc/default/iptables or something that lets you default load the irc_conntrack module, which will automatically recognize DCC SEND requests and DCC ACCEPT and open the ports appropriate to the particular handshake per host.
[18:11] <Ro> how do I change the default programs for lubuntu? I can only change my email and web client
[18:11] <bluefoxxx> if your firewall/NAT is Linux anyway.
[18:11] <bluefoxxx> if it's a commodity router, good luck.  Consider buying a TrimSlice or something and building your own router.
[18:12] <Hopsy> I CAN TOUCH IT yeah!
[18:12] <LordDeath> seems like we DOSed ubuntu.com ^^
[18:12] <ciastek> Hopsy: what is it?
[18:12] <sc30317> LordDeath: seriously
[18:12] <Hopsy> its a ..
[18:12] <Calinou> >2013
[18:13] <Calinou> >not using a router
[18:13] <vexati0n> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <vexati0n> arg
[18:13] <StarBrilliant> Perfectly distilled. Ubuntu on phones at CES, 7–11 January 2013.
[18:13] <StarBrilliant> http://ubuntu.com
[18:13] <Hopsy> Happy new year!
[18:13] <Calinou> the late bluefoxx, buy it for me then
[18:13] <vexati0n> stupid slashes.
[18:13] <ciastek> StarBrilliant: thank you!
[18:13] <sc30317> StarBrilliant: is that what the announcement is?
[18:13] <KurtKraut> Is it only me or the countdown at ubuntu.com is actually stuck at 00:00;00?
[18:13] <xangua> !ot
[18:13] <sc30317> KurtKraut: yup same here
[18:13] <phzxd> it's stuck
[18:14] <KurtKraut> phzxd, sc30317, thanks for the info.
[18:14] <StarBrilliant> the ubuntu's webpage is hard to access, it's too busy
[18:14] <Pici> !discuss
[18:15] <Guest59383> witam wszystkich
[18:16] <Guest59383> Witam czy ktoś pisze po polsku??????????
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !pl | Guest59383
[18:18] <fas> Anyone here know how to go about getting Win7 in virtualbox via either OEM key or recovery partition?
[18:19] <qhartman> fas: It's incredibly difficult to do, not to mention a violation of the license.
[18:19] <pueblo> Hey, can anybody help me out?
[18:19] <ciastek> fas: you can bend win7 installation using *.wim images from recovery partition, imagex utility and some win7 disk to boot
[18:19] <pueblo> I played a bit with locales setting and languages and changed to something wrong within gnome-control-center my user language: (gnome-control-center:7723): common-cc-panel-WARNING **: locale 'en
[18:19] <pueblo> en' isn't valid
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> pueblo  start with a question
[18:20] <pueblo> and it now just crash if I open it
[18:20] <xibalba> how would i change this to just search for all netblocks period? egrep '183\.([0-9]|(1[0-6]|2[0-3]))'
[18:20] <pueblo> where can I change that setting without using the GUI?
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> xibalba  better ask in #bash
[18:21] <Mercury> I wonder how one goes about getting a development phone for the Ubuntu phone stuff.
[18:22] <Mercury> xibalba: What are you trying to search for there?  IP addresses that live in 183.0.0.0/8, any IP addresses?  Something else?
[18:22] <xibalba> any netblock, i have a file of different netblocks. 209..../20, 216.../18, etc...
[18:22] <mcrawfor> so
[18:22] <mcrawfor> now the counter says 0 but nothing is happening
[18:22] <Mercury> xibalba: Drop a few lines and your script into a pastebin.
[18:23] <Lockal> "As you use your phone the image will evolve": so at the beginning ubuntu phone has only splash attack?
[18:23] <xibalba> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1489370/
[18:23] <xibalba> i want to match on all of those
[18:23] <Mercury> xibalba: But there are lines that are not netblocks?
[18:23] <Porkepix>  Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems. I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?
[18:24] <xibalba> there will be some yes
[18:24] <Mercury> xibalba: There's the right solution, and then there's the really easy one which will probably work just fine.
[18:24] <xibalba> pulling the netblocks out of a config file
[18:24] <Trunks2k5_> What is the name of the new operating system for smartphones?
[18:24] <virtu> MyUnity still not available for 12.10?
[18:24] <gotwig> Trunks2k5_, they call it "Ubuntu" ...
[18:24] <Mercury> xibalba: egrep '^[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\/[0-9]*$'
[18:24] <Trunks2k5_> sure but I thought there is a version name around
[18:25] <genii-around> Trunks2k5_: There's also "tizen" but it's an ongoing WIP
[18:25] <Munchor> gotwig, hi
[18:25] <gotwig> Munchor, >.<
[18:25] <Mercury> Trunks2k5_: I'm going to bet that it's 13.04.
[18:25] <Mercury> Trunks2k5_: (Bet / hope.)
[18:25] <xibalba> f i cant copy out of IRC for some reason
[18:25] <xibalba> mercurius, would you mind pastbining that
[18:26] <xibalba> this is aggrevating that i can't copy
[18:26] <gotwig> can I use my scopes and lenses with that?
[18:26] <david23400> DO WE have to buy a new phone
[18:26] <david23400> or this can be installed on other phones?
[18:26] <david23400> such as androids
[18:26] <xangua> !discuss
[18:28] <Mercury> xibalba: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1489383/
[18:28] <xibalba> ty
[18:28] <Mercury> xibalba: NP, but, learn regular expressions some time, it's worth while. :)
[18:28] <OldSam> hi
[18:29] <xibalba> oh i've been meaning too, too many things on plate now
[18:29] <Mercury> xibalba: Now _that_ I get.
[18:29] <gotwig> david23400, its going to work wit galaxy  nexus I guess
[18:29] <gotwig> *with
[18:30] <gotwig> I hope I can install it on a n900!
[18:30] <xibalba> Mercury, my config file looks like : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1489385/ : and doesn't seem to be grabbing the netblocks
[18:30] <bekks> gotwig: Does a N900 support Android?
[18:30] <wdp> gotwig!
[18:30] <wdp> :D
[18:30] <h00k> For discussions on Ubuntu Phone, head over to #ubuntu-discuss
[18:30] <gotwig> bekks, a n900 supports everything on earth, and space
[18:30] <dlynes_laptop> During startup, my raid devices seem to be going down and back up again.  The reason I'm saying 'seem' to be, is because i set some kernel flags for them in /sys/block/md[0-1]/..., which seem to be getting set, but then after I've finished booting up, those flags aren't set
[18:30] <Mercury> xibalba: That's because you gave me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1489370/ as your example lines, and so the grep looks for lines which are _just_ that.
[18:30] <gotwig> but who wants android on his n900....
[18:31] <xibalba> ah, i misinformed you
[18:31] <gotwig> its sooo crappy
[18:31] <Mercury> xibalba: Remove the ^ and $ from the grep.
[18:31] <xibalba> oh ok those act as literals?
[18:31] <Mercury> Those act as anchors, ^ means the beginning of a line, $ means the end of a line.
[18:31] <xibalba> sweet, i should be able to make this work
[18:31] <gotwig> I am really looking forward to Ubuntu on phones
[18:31] <xibalba> i need to 'sync' my acl list, and remove old IPs
[18:31] <dlynes_laptop> Is there somewhere in the boot process that I need to put the flag setup after?  Or, is there something i'm missing?  It's currently in rc.local, and waits for md0 and md1 to exist before setting those flags
[18:31] <gotwig> I once was an awesome ubuntu dev...
[18:31] <xibalba> big list of them, going to be a pain if i can't filter
[18:31] <gotwig> than I stopped my development..
[18:32] <gotwig> I hope I  can develop scope and lenses for that
[18:32] <rebel> hi all
[18:32] <DJones> gotwig: Discussion about Ubuntu phone in #ubuntu-discuss
[18:32] <Mercury> xibalba: Ah, ACLs, the pain.
[18:33] <xibalba> yes especially since i'm having to base it off of a bind acl list
[18:33] <xibalba> which is written differently
[18:33] <Mercury> Conversion pain is annoying, but.
[18:35] <Jordan_U> dlynes_laptop: What flags are you trying to set, and why?
[18:35] <Nexuus> Wow.  Ubuntu phone.  Who's psyched about that?
[18:37] <dlynes_laptop> jordan, md/stripe_cache_size, md/preread_bypass_threshold, queue/scheduler, queue/nr_requests, queue/iosched/read_expire queue/iosched/front_merges, device/queue_depth --- all for optimization
[18:37] <dlynes_laptop> Jordan_U, md/stripe_cache_size, md/preread_bypass_threshold, queue/scheduler, queue/nr_requests, queue/iosched/read_expire queue/iosched/front_merges, device/queue_depth --- all for optimization
[18:37] <tacone> hello, Shift_L + "plus" doesn't work on my keyboard, any help ?
[18:40] <Carbonide> Will there be an Android virtual machine?
[18:42] <gbs> it's unity for android
[18:42] <gbs> omg
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Carbonide  http://www.virtualboximages.com/Android+OS+2.6.29+x86+Virtual+Appliance
[18:43] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> lol, they sport Unity as such a great feature, i hated it, and i believe a lot of other people didnt enjoy it either
[18:43] <GeorgeJ> Is there any way I can see which package created a user?
[18:45] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: look for a file created for that user via the package and use "dpkg -S /path/to/file"
[18:47] <Chelsea> Am I the only one feeling a bit dissapointed after seeing Ubuntu's bit "announcement"?
[18:47] <genii-around> grepping the postinst files for "adduser" and the added username might narrow it down too
[18:47] <Chelsea> /bit/big
[18:48] <mega1> how do i mount a usb drive i just pluged in
[18:48] <iceroot> Chelsea: its epic
[18:48] <kylescottmcgill> the phone looks nice
[18:48] <kylescottmcgill> it would be better if they annouced how to blitz my iOS and replace it with Ubuntu or something :D
[18:49] <Chelsea> But... there is no phone. There's just the software, possibility and ecosystem.
[18:49] <kylescottmcgill> Fair point
[18:49] <milamber> mega1: it should automount, did it not?
[18:49] <kylescottmcgill> similar to B2G (Boot 2 Gecko)
[18:49] <milamber> mega1: if not, you should be able to see it when you do: sudo fdisk -l
[18:49] <mega1> how do i tell
[18:50] <milamber> mega1: the command: df
[18:51] <Chelsea> If they're still trying to woo manufacturers, I doubt it will be a reality in 2013.
[18:51] <mega1> not there
[18:53] <dkessel> if there will be no phone in 2013, i guess they might build a simple installer for example for the nexus 4 and maybe other popular devices
[18:53] <kylescottmcgill> ya, the iphone :D
[18:54] <gvo> mega1: dmesg | tail -20       then look for something like: [1801309.393727]  sdd: sdd1
[18:54] <gvo> where sdd could be sdb or sdc or ...
[18:54] <dkessel> i hope there will be one for the galaxy s2 :)
[18:55] <gvo> mega1: Also as milamber said you can try sudo fdisk -l
[18:56] <Chelsea> dkessel, That possibility would be nice for a lot of people. But Cannonical can't build a product or service on rooting other phones can they?
[18:56] <kylescottmcgill> mega1: what are you looking for? is your Drive not mounting? If your using Gnome, you could try Disks
[18:56] <OldSam> does anybody know if there is a generic way to find out the location of _all_ configuration files for a given package? so that I could copy all of them to another ubuntu installation, getting the same service (same config)
[18:56] <kylescottmcgill> gnome-disks in the command line will run it
[18:56] <dkessel> yeah, i too guess the rooting part will be the problem
[18:56] <OldSam> (and also all database files or other relevant stuff)
[18:57] <mega1> i am using ubuntu server and i have used putty to access the computer
[18:57] <kylescottmcgill> OldSam: + that, i normally just recreate the ones i know of, but knowing where everything is would be mint when im configuring it
[18:57] <gvo> mega1: so did you try anything I suggested?
[18:58] <charley__> i have a question concerning dist-upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10
[18:58] <mega1> sudo fdisk -l does not show the drive
[18:58] <charley__> i have done this but when i open my computer the welcome screen still shows 12.04 lte why?
[18:58] <Bighong> hey
[18:58] <kylescottmcgill> mega1: oh right, yeah the dmesg (or sudo dmesg) should tell you when you connected the device, if nothing is in there, check the drive again, once you have figured out what sdX it is you can mount it to /media or something
[18:59] <lduros> hi, is there anyway I can start the printer settings gui from the command line?
[18:59] <lduros> what would be the command to run?
[18:59] <genii-around> charley__: dist-upgrade option in apt-get does not move you between different releases of Ubuntu. For that you require do-release-upgrade
[18:59] <charley__> as a stand alone command?
[18:59] <genii-around> charley__: Yes
[18:59] <mega1> dmesg | tail -29 unable to enumerate usb device on port 1
[19:00] <charley__> ty very much i will try it now
[19:00] <kylescottmcgill> mega1: fdisk -l wont do anything you have to give it the path to use like /dev/sda etc
[19:00] <kylescottmcgill> instead use lsblk
[19:00] <mega1> lsblk
[19:00] <kylescottmcgill> check lsblk first
[19:00] <gvo> mega1:  sounds like the system can't read your usb part.
[19:00] <Bighong> treba mi haker
[19:00] <BetaSoul> Afternoon all. Quick question: Does switchable graphics work properly for the AMD 5650 for the HP ENVY line?
[19:01] <megharsh> is their any  fxp client
[19:01] <gvo> mega1: what version of the OS
[19:01] <remontees> ça en chie du ventilo
[19:01] <mega1> 12.04
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[19:02] <OldSam> at least 'dpkg -L package' shows me all relevant files... now  it would be really helpful if there would be a way to just show the config files... or is that information is not available in the package manager?
[19:02] <gvo> mega1 what is the device?
[19:03] <GeorgeJ> genii-around: How would one go around doing that?
[19:03] <mega1> i have an external hp usb drive
[19:03] <kylescottmcgill> Server wont auto mount it, you will have to manually mount it first, if it can read it
[19:03] <kylescottmcgill> what is the device formatted as, and does it work in other machines?
[19:04] <gvo> mega1: so it looks like Linux isn't finding anything it likes.  I don't know how you'd get it to work.
[19:04] <genii-around> GeorgeJ: eg: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:05] <charley__> the do-release-update doesnt seem to work
[19:05] <charley__> what is the full process
[19:05] <kylescottmcgill> charley__: you just type that command
[19:05] <genii-around> charley__: Not update at the end. upgrade
[19:05] <GeorgeJ> genii-around: I was refering to what you said earlier: <genii-around> grepping the postinst files for "adduser" and the added username might narrow it down too
[19:05] <genii-around> GeorgeJ: Oh, sorry, got temporarily confused
[19:05] <gvo> charley__: First backup anything you consider important.
[19:05] <charley__> says no new release found
[19:05] <GeorgeJ> No problem, I replied rather late.
[19:06] <kylescottmcgill> then your on the latest :)
[19:06] <genii-around> charley__: add -d     then
[19:06] <touchscreen> happy new year every one
[19:06] <MoL0ToV> i'm whatching these pages: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone  ma non ho capito molto bene... so in  the next future we  can install ubuntu on a android or a windowsphone?
[19:06] <PeterJCLaw> hi, can someone please tell me what thing it is that tells you which package to install for a given program?
[19:06] <PeterJCLaw> ie: $ rvm list
[19:06] <PeterJCLaw> The program 'rvm' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[19:06] <PeterJCLaw> sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm
[19:06] <PeterJCLaw> (I'm guessing that this isn't bash)
[19:07] <charley__> this isnt supose to format my disk right?
[19:07] <gvo> charley__: No but it is possible to make it unbootable.
[19:07] <kylescottmcgill> PeterJCLaw: goto rvm.io everything is there
[19:07] <charley__> ohh
[19:07] <michagogo> Is the ruby-rvm actually what you want?
[19:07] <genii-around> GeorgeJ: The pacgaes have post installation scripts, these are what add users if needed. the post installation files are found in the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info/      So what you can do if a script added user "george" for instance is: grep adduser /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postinst | grep george
[19:07] <PeterJCLaw> kylescottmcgill: well yes, but that's not the bit I'm interested in
[19:08] <michagogo> According to the site, you should install with `\curl -L https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable --ruby'
[19:08] <kylescottmcgill> then what is the problem?
[19:08] <GeorgeJ> genii-around: Awesome, thank you.
[19:08] <charley__> thank you gvo
[19:08] <michagogo> Ohhhh
[19:08] <PeterJCLaw> I'd like to know what it is that is telling me that
[19:08] <gvo> charley__: If the system starts to update and you have a power failure, for instance, it is possible that the system will be left in a state that's unbootable.
[19:08] <PeterJCLaw> because I think it's cool
[19:08] <charley__> and genii-around
[19:08] <PeterJCLaw> but also because it's got a bug
[19:08] <mega1> lsblk says sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk |-sda1 8:1 0 244M 0 Part sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part 'sda5 8:5 0 33.7G 0 part  |-Tech-root (dm-0) 252:0 0 32.3G 0 lvm '-Tech-swap_1 252:1 0 1.4G 0 lvm [SWAP] sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom
[19:08] <PeterJCLaw> $ sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm
[19:08] <PeterJCLaw> E: Unable to locate package ruby-rvm
[19:09] <michagogo> !pastebin > mega1
[19:09] <gvo> charley__: That's not usually a problem ordinarily but when upgrading it can.
[19:09] <touchscreen> got a  Acer Aspire Z5761 with touchscreen i install ubuntu 12.04 fine but i can find out how to activate touchscreen 23" any one could coatch
[19:09] <alesan> hi, is there a way to rip bluray discs with ubuntu? I do not have a bluray driver in my home PC
[19:09] <BetaSoul> touchscreen: have you check restricted drivers?
[19:10] <kylescottmcgill> PeterJCLaw: right i see what you mean, it could be an older package, or something, command-not-found is built into Ubuntu as far as im aware, but generally its bash or whatever shell that would normally say command-not-found
[19:10] <bekks> alesan: Do you have a blueray reader/writer in your PC?
[19:10] <alesan> bekks, which one?
[19:10] <bekks> alesan: Thats what I am asking.
[19:10] <GeorgeJ> genii-around: The adduser lines seems to span multiple lines. Since the user I'm looking for is called bind, I grepped for "bind" to not avail.
[19:11] <alesan> bekks, the reason I want to rip is that I do not have a BD driver on the PC I want to watch the movie
[19:11] <touchscreen> BetaSoul " have you check restricted drivers?" do not understanded ?
[19:11] <bekks> alesan: a driver is some sort of software. You need BD capable _hardware_ to actually being able to read the BD.
[19:12] <GeorgeJ> genii-around: Hmm, I have issued apt-get autoremove. Is there any way I can purge the data of the packages that are no longer installed?
[19:12] <gvo> GeorgeJ: Are you looking to copy a DNS server from one system to another?
[19:12] <GeorgeJ> No.
[19:12] <PeterJCLaw> kylescottmcgill: thanks
[19:12] <dkessel> PeterJCLaw: i think the program is command-not-found
[19:12] <BetaSoul> http://cybernetnews.com/install-and-enable-restricted-drivers-in-ubuntu/
[19:13] <GeorgeJ> I've installed samba4, which I've now uninstalled, but its dependencies I removed with apt-get autoremove.
[19:13] <alesan> bekks, OK make that "Blueray disc drive"... a little pedantic this year uh ;) ???
[19:13] <GeorgeJ> I also want to purge the data the dependencies(which no longer exists) have.
[19:13] <michagogo> GeorgeJ: you mean `apt-get purge'?
[19:13] <kylescottmcgill> autoremove will only remove it if its no longer needed
[19:13] <bekks> alesan: So you dont have a BD disc drive then?
[19:13] <PeterJCLaw> dkessel: looks like it, thanks
[19:13] <GeorgeJ> I'm actually looking for something on the lines of apt-get autopurge.
[19:14] <michagogo> IIRC apt-get has a switch or option or something to purge anywhere that it'd remove or something
[19:14] <kylescottmcgill> GeorgeJ: there is purge and clean
[19:14] <alesan> bekks, not in the computer where I want to play the video.
[19:14] <alesan> bekks, that computer is windows, also
[19:14]  * ratifers feliz ano novoooo
[19:15] <hapster> will nouveau finally work with optimus laptops for 12.10?
[19:15] <Muphrid> GeorgeJ: apt-get purge && apt-get autoremove --purge
[19:15] <mrec> when starting xbmc I get following error message: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libva-x11.so.1: undefined symbol: fool_postp
[19:15] <mrec> does anyone know how to fix that issue?
[19:15] <majnoon> !ot
[19:15] <GeorgeJ> Muphrid: Thank you!
[19:15] <genii-around> GeorgeJ: As far as I recall you can use the purge with installed packages but I don't think it works with uninstalled/not installed ones
[19:15] <bekks> alesan: So how is your question related to Ubuntu then, without even having Ubuntu and without BD cap0able hardware?
[19:15] <mrec> of course with ubuntu :-)
[19:15] <michagogo> GeorgeJ: --purge being the option I mentioned
[19:16] <alesan> bekks, why do you have to complaint about irrelevant details? I am asking if there is a way to rip a BD with Ubuntu
[19:16] <GeorgeJ> genii-around: Well, not really a problem. I'll just re-install samba4, lawdy.
[19:16] <alesan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD gives me a 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
[19:17] <Zephron> holy crap..ubuntu phone looks amazing..
[19:19] <zikalify> is the hangout reading this?
[19:19] <Taint> How do I mount NTFS drive(s) in ubuntu vm? tried listing partitions and doesn't show
[19:20] <RollinV2> you need vmware tools installed (assuming windows is host and ubuntu is guest)
[19:21] <Bighong> pozdrav svima
[19:21] <tola> jono: Will Ubuntu for phones use Gecko for the web app runtime?
[19:22] <Taint> ok I'm trainstalling vmware tools now RollinV2
[19:22] <Taint> reinstalling*
[19:22] <jono> tola, I think it uses webkit
[19:23] <tola> jono: That's a great shame. Because if it was Gecko, I have a browser app you might be interested in.
[19:23] <tola> jono: Will the browser app use Webkit too then?
[19:24] <WanderingEnder> Is there a channle for this new "Ubuntu for Phones" stuff.
[19:24] <DJones> WanderingEnder: #ubuntu-discuss
[19:24]  * tola goes there
[19:25] <tola> jono: (In case you're wondering. The browser app I'm talking about is called Firefox. It's an HTML5 web app https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/tree/master/apps/browser)
[19:26] <cheese1756> What's everybody's thoughts on Ubuntu for mobile?
[19:26] <cheese1756> Looks far nicer than Android
[19:27] <FabianS> A bit laggy.
[19:27] <dlynes_laptop> cheese1756, that's exactly what they're discussing on #ubuntu-discuss right now
[19:27] <FabianS> Let's hope the releases will run faster.
[19:27] <cheese1756> dlynes_laptop, Ah, that seems like more of a proper place
[19:27] <cheese1756> Thanks
[19:28] <frantz> Does anyone know what the command is for openssl to show a list of certifiates? I'm trying to view info for one, but we can't remember the name the prevous developer saved it as
[19:28] <frantz> certificates*
[19:29] <FLeiXiuS> How can I modify the ISO installer's boot menu permanently from a cooked ISO
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> FLeiXiuS  use isomaster
[19:30] <FLeiXiuS> MonkeyDust, I'd rather not.
[19:32] <FLeiXiuS> Under the livecd, I modified the contents of grub folder, but they don't work with the new installer.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> FLeiXiuS  there's also remastersys
[19:34] <tricky> nick praky
[19:34] <Lil> anyone know why the ubuntu site is throwing errors out at me?
[19:34] <trickyj> tricky: hi
[19:35] <Lil> http://developer.ubuntu.com/gomobile  <-- does that url work for anyone?
[19:35] <DJones> Lil: Probably being overworked at the moment after the ubuntu phone announcement
[19:35] <Taint> ok RollinV2 I have VMware tools installed now how do I mount my drives?
[19:36] <dkessel> Lil: nope, not working
[19:36] <RollinV2> Taint, http://askubuntu.com/questions/29284/how-do-i-mount-shared-folders-win7-host-in-ubuntu-guest-using-vmwaretools-v
[19:37] <Lil> ty
[19:38] <Zephron> gomobile links qorks now
[19:38] <Zephron> works*
[19:42] <wdennis> hello all
[19:42] <ClientAlive> hi. When it comes to opacity of windows, is a larger number mean more transparent or less transparent? Which way does the scale go?
[19:42] <wdennis> have a q: any way to mount nfs share thru GUI (Nautilus), kind of like doing so on a Mac?
[19:43] <frantz> ANyone know how to view installed ssl certificates
[19:45] <l00pback> Wow just saw Ubuntu OS for Mobile.....Mind Blown!!!
[19:46] <wdennis> frantz: do you have a /etc/ssl/certs directory? My certs are in there
[19:47] <DDAZZA> How can I get a script to run that requires root privileges to run when I log in?
[19:47] <Lukian123> Hi all!
[19:48] <Ray2> Ubuntu-12.04..I am running from a live cd to try this o/s..Switched to gnome-classic after downloaded needed apps...Added one row of 4 workspaces...When switching workspaces to 2 thru 4 the screen goes black...Mouse has movement but no menu's and cannot return to workspace 1..any fix ??
[19:53] <khdkid> @Ray2 probably because you are running it from a live cd. try installing it.
[19:54] <joar> I can swear I interfaced to a program that stored a username and a password encrypted.
[19:55] <joar> I can't remember the name of the utility though.
[19:55] <joar> it was not kwallet
[19:56] <Noskcaj> is planet.ubuntu.com down or just my internet being stupid?
[19:56] <arune> I have a problem with ubuntu-one app on android, is there some #ubuntu-one-channel to get help?
[19:56] <joar> Noskcaj: down
[19:57] <DJones> arune: I think its #ubuntuone
[19:57] <kostkon> arune, runs perfectly here? What's your problem?
[19:57] <kostkon> arune, without the ?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> arune  some 60 people in #ubuntuone
[19:57] <arune> kostkon: normally it automatically uploads photos to ubuntu one, but now it fails for one photo, always
[19:58] <kostkon> arune, hmm, right. Does the photo open ok on your pc?
[19:58] <Noskcaj> arune, i think its still in beta
[19:58] <makerbreakr> is anyone familiar with ubuntu-builder
[19:58] <arune> I get the notification "upload fails" but when clicking it there is no additional information on why
[19:58] <makerbreakr> Im not getting the try/install dialoge upon start, it just boots to a command prompt
[19:58] <makerbreakr> and I hvae to manually run startx to get the desktop
[19:58] <arune> Ill try take another photo
[19:59] <Wizek> Hello! I have a fresh wubi install of Ubuntu 12.10 x64 and try to install 32bit apps (such as skype and steam) but I get this error: "Wrong architecture (i386)". I googled a bit, and found that I need 'ia32-libs', however trying to install it yields: 'ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch but it is not installable'. What can I do now?
[20:00] <carl-eric> Hi - when installing with the ubiquity installer and choosing manual partition setup (because other partitions must remain safe) - how do I setup encrypted swap with a random key? I can only choose "physical volume for encryption", which requires a password key.
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> Wizek  wubi may be the problem, it's meant for testing ubuntu -- better install ubuntu on its own partition
[20:01] <angellios> hi all
[20:01] <Ray2> khdkid...I'd prefer not to install until I am sure I like gnome classic...This type problem did not exist in 10.04 when I tried it before installing..Unity is not my cup of tea
[20:02] <khdkid> Ray2 have you tried cinnamon?
[20:03] <Wizek> E: Package 'ia32-libs-multiarch' has no installation candidate
[20:03] <Wizek> Also, trying to 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch' I get this ^^^
[20:03] <Ray2> khdkid..Not familiar with cinnamon
[20:03] <arune> now I have "2 uploads failed"
[20:04] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: that doesn't seem right. Why would wubi have an effect on wheter apt-get sees a package or does not?
[20:04] <SharkMuttleworth> Ray2: I suggest trying Xubuntu (XFCE) if you want a "normal" desktop, gnome-classic and cinammon are both beset with bugs
[20:04] <ForSpareParts> Could somebody tell me what files I need to create/edit to make a desktop environment entry at the login screen? I want to replace the apt-get version of XMonad with the development version, but that'll knock out my nice launch option.
[20:05] <msh> hello to all,how can i run internet explorer in ubuntu 12.10 and how should i install it?
[20:05] <arune> kostkon: gah, dmesg says cannot enumerate device when connecting phone to computer
[20:05] <carl-eric> Anybody know how to setup encrypted swap with the ubiquity installer?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> Wizek  what i'm saying is: instead of struggling with wubi, do a 'real' ubuntu install
[20:05] <kostkon> arune, android 4+?
[20:05] <arune> kostkon: yes ICS
[20:06] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: what would you recommend if this error was on a non-wubi system?
[20:06] <CrazyGangster> msh: PlayOnLinux have a wizard to install EI
[20:07] <kostkon> arune, check this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[20:07] <arune> kostkon: thanks!!
[20:07] <CrazyGangster> msh: *IE
[20:07] <SharkMuttleworth> msh: There are a few options: some websites provide tools to show you how a website looks in IE (e.g. http://browsershots.org/), or you can install vmware/virtualbox and install windows with ie as a vm, or microsoft provide some official vm's with ie included which you can use for testing
[20:07] <Wizek> Also, to mitigate some
[20:08] <Wizek> Also, to mitigate some crashes I needed to install nVidia drivers which I think messed up where apt-get looks for packages
[20:10] <Wizek> I followed these steps: http://www.everythingismyfault.com/2012/12/11/ubuntu-nvidia-drivers/
[20:12] <SharkMuttleworth> Wizek: Whoever wrote that guide is clueless, but it hasn't messed up your repository settings
[20:13] <Wizek> well, after 2 hours of googleing this was the first one that helped
[20:14] <Wizek> but I'm also clueless about this subject so you might very well be right
[20:14] <Walther> Nice job for the Ubuntu Phone thing! When can we download and install? :P
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> !nvidia
[20:18] <hippiehacker> https://gist.github.com/4436283#comment-695263 is there a way to keep Googles Certificate Authority from being injected into firefox on Ubuntu?
[20:27] <Wizek> So nobody had issues with installing this 'ia32-libs-multiarch' yet?
[20:27] <dlynes_laptop> Walther, the discussion's happening on #ubuntu-discuss
[20:27] <Wizek> (or have an idea as to how can I work around/debug it?)
[20:28] <Jordan_U> Wizek: Start by stating what problem you're seeing.
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> Wizek_  did you try installing ia32-libs-multiarch ?
[20:31] <Wizek> Jordan_U, MonkeyDust:  https://gist.github.com/a5199898fb4203423e8a
[20:31] <arune> ops, window manager died during upgrade to 12.10
[20:32] <arune> cannot switch to update-manager
[20:32] <JoaoSantana> hi all
[20:32] <arune> how do I find you the progress of the update?
[20:32] <JoaoSantana> happy new year
[20:33] <arune> alt-tab does not work
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> Wizek_  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/1016294
[20:33] <msh> CrazyGangster,thank you for your guidance.
[20:33] <carlo_> hi
[20:34] <msh> sharkMuttleworth,thank you so much.
[20:35] <bekks> I bet he did not even code one line ;)
[20:35] <Helperhaps> hello
[20:35] <Helperhaps> it`s amazing
[20:36] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: Thanks, reading through the conversation.
[20:36] <Helperhaps> the first time i came in
[20:36] <scellef> does anybody know if a PPC channel exists for ubuntu?
[20:37] <ni563300> gf
[20:37]  * scellef sees archlinux and debian ppc channels
[20:37] <Helperhaps> i am fresh
[20:37] <mrec> where is this freaking LC_LANG defined?
[20:37] <Sazpaimon> can anyone tell me why ubuntu server comes with wireless stuff?
[20:37] <scellef> mrec: grep -R LC_LANG /etc
[20:37] <mrec> nowhere there
[20:37] <Sazpaimon> like, iw, wireless-tools, wireless-regdb, etc?
[20:37] <scellef> mrec: grep -R LC_LANG /home?
[20:37] <scellef> :D
[20:37] <ozy_work> Sazpaimon: why wouldn't it?
[20:38] <Sazpaimon> why would a server need wireless?
[20:38] <ozy_work> Sazpaimon: why wouldn't it?
[20:38] <Sazpaimon> that is to say, wireless by default
[20:38] <ozy_work> *shrug*
[20:38] <mrec> scellef: nope
[20:38] <mrec> those locales are the biggest failure in the linux world
[20:39] <ozy_work> Sazpaimon: in my mind 'server' denotes stability/feature freezes/long term support, not 'limited features'
[20:39] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: Someone suggests purging the reverse dependencies. I'd like to give that a try, but it sounds like something potentially harmful. Or is it completely safe?
[20:39] <ozy_work> then again, i'm not really a ubuntu guy (joined because of the countdown clock)
[20:39] <scellef> mrec: d'oh :(
[20:40] <Sazpaimon> ozy_work, so in your opinion, server == hardened
[20:40] <Hawkerz> haha...crazy issues with unity in virtualbox on mac
[20:40] <Hawkerz> for 12.10
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> Wizek  it's only wubi, not much lost if things go wrong, give it a try
[20:41] <Pici> Sazpaimon: Everything that is installable in Ubuntu Desktop can be installed on Ubuntu server. So yes, you can get wireless working.
[20:42] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: in what way can It go wrong? What should I be expecting?
[20:42] <Sazpaimon> Pici, my question is why does it need to be *installed* from the get-go
[20:42] <Sazpaimon> i mean if you need wireless, apt-get install wireless-tools, by all means. But a server install does not need such a thing out of the box
[20:44] <Pici> Sazpaimon: Probably because it was small enough to include by default and not cause a problem.
[20:46] <ituvox> Hello. I can't seem to get my epson multifunctional scanner (tx135) on ubuntu 12.04. The printer part of it works fine, but the scanner just stalls when trying to run iscan or xsane.
[20:48] <dougl> puff puff pass
[20:49] <ozy_work> Sazpaimon: pretty much. To me, what you are asking for is a 'minimal' install, not a server install
[20:49] <ozy_work> a minimal install -- install the bare minimum to get the OS running, a basic gui install? Install basic OS tools, and more on
[20:49] <ozy_work> again, looking at this as a RH admin
[20:49] <ozy_work> not a ubuntu one
[20:50] <jaffar> ciao a tutti
[20:50] <jaffar> !list
[20:50] <Pici> ozy_work: it still applies.
[20:50] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: I owe you an apology. It does have to do with wubi, so sorry for doubting you on that one. But, fortunatelly, there was a very easy solution: "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" ia32-libs is installing right now, fingers crossed for skype and steam :) after that
[20:51] <Sazpaimon> ozy_work, I just think that something like wireless-tools could be installed from something like tasksel, instead of by default, but that's just me
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> Wizek  no problem, but maybe you can add a comment to the launchpad page
[20:52] <ozy_work> Sazpaimon: perhaps. In my mind, you should be starting with a miminal install then, and build up the packages you want
[20:52] <ozy_work> i'm not sure what tasksel is
[20:52] <ozy_work> it's been years since my last ubuntu install
[20:52] <joako> When I run VLC a a service I don´t get any audio output from the sound card. How can I enable it?
[20:53] <Cpt-Oblivious> What GPU driver should i use for an "AMD GL M5950", when i install ubuntu by default, it doesn't recognize any driver at all and Unity is very sluggish. When i go to software sources and select the alternative proprietary driver it installs and when i then reboot I can login but Unity no longer works AT all, only a black background screen. Any advice which driver i should use?
[20:54] <jrtappers> Is there any way to move the launcher in 12.04 or 12.10
[20:55] <nickgaw> Hi, Does this channel support ubuntu running on the chromebooks?
[20:56] <daftykins> nickgaw: just fire away with your question, if someone can help they'll speak
[20:57] <joako> Can I remove pulseaudio from ubuntu and user a simpler system?
[20:58] <nickgaw> my question is the default installation of the rhfwc script does not include sound support but I was wondering if a apt-get update then an apt-get dist-upgrade would add sound support to my chromebook?
[20:58] <nickgaw> and is sshd included in the default arm installation?
[20:59] <daftykins> nickgaw: everyone would recommend a full upgrade anyway. so yeah, do a dist-upgrade to get the latest packages. apt-get install openssh-server for SSH access
[20:59] <jrtappers> Is there any way to move the launcher in 12.04 or 12.10, I got asked and couldn't think of any way
[20:59] <carl-eric> Is there any way to customize partitioning and get encryption with the new Ubiquity installer?
[21:00] <Wizek> MonkeyDust: Good point, posted.
[21:00] <daftykins> carl-eric: pretty sure it's designed so that in every version you can manually partition and still encrypt at least /home
[21:01] <Eagleman> Where can i find a copy of the default index.html file shipped with a fresh apache installation, it's used by DirectoryIndex ?
[21:01] <carl-eric> daftykins, I want full disk encryption via luks, the way the old alternate installer allowed it.
[21:01] <daftykins> carl-eric: oic, ok sorry that's beyond me
[21:02] <KI4RO> jrtappers, Here's a possibllity for you:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[21:02] <carl-eric> daftykins, if I select "something else" in ubiquity, I get a graphical partition editor which seems to pretend to support encryption, but doesn't offer any way to actually mount a crypto volume.
[21:02] <daftykins> =[
[21:02] <genii-around> Eagleman: /var/www
[21:03] <Eagleman> genii-around i am asking for a copy becuase i removed the file in /var/www/ a year aigo
[21:03] <jrtappers> thanks
[21:04] <mrec> I start to hate ubuntu
[21:04] <mrec> language settings are a big fail with ubuntu
[21:04] <Helperhaps> that`s true
[21:05] <Helperhaps> but i just fall in love with it
[21:05] <Eagleman> Where can i find a copy of the default index.html file shipped with a fresh apache installation, it's used by DirectoryIndex ?
[21:05] <genii-around> Eagleman: It's just a placeholder file that says "It Works!"  if you really need that particular one for some reason instead of any old one you could make there, you can apt-get download apache   then ar -x  the file, then tar -xvzf data.tar.gz   then copy it from the local var/www it makes
[21:05] <jrtappers> what is a good graphics card that has decent drivers for Ubuntu and Windows?
[21:06] <mokujin> Здравствуйте
[21:06] <genii-around> !ru | mokujin
[21:06] <Eagleman> genii-around i was under the impression that it showed me way more than that, something like distribution and a nice layout
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> jrtappers  start here for ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[21:07] <Eagleman> genii-around something like this:  http://linuxmoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/centos-apache-install-default-page.png
[21:07] <genii-around> Eagleman: No, the default one just says "It Works!"
[21:07] <genii-around> Eagleman: Note that is a Centos and not Ubuntu package
[21:08] <Eagleman> yeh i should have mixed those 2 together
[21:08] <jrtappers> any cards that are known to be good /avoided, I have a bit of a habit of getting that 1 part that doesn't work easily
[21:09] <milamber> !hardware | jrtappers
[21:09] <mokujin> someone can speak russian ?
[21:09] <Eagleman> genii-around when i get the page:  Forbidden  how can i remove this at the bottem?  Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at FQDN Port 443
[21:10] <Eagleman> nevermind, i am getting to easy now, already found it
[21:10] <mrec> is there any way to change the language in ubuntu within 10 minutes?
[21:10] <sintella> !list
[21:10] <milamber> !ru | mokujin
[21:11] <mrec> this is the biggest fuckup in ubuntu since system -> administration -> language support is gone it's completely messed up
[21:11] <milamber> !language | mrec
[21:11] <joako> Is there any way I can enable audio output from a service?
[21:12] <genii-around> Eagleman: That setting is in /etc/apache2/conf.d/security file. Set ServerSignature Off   and ServerTokens Server:Apache
[21:12] <Eagleman> i was wrong indeed, i hard coded it in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[21:13] <rasanen7> I would like to configure an MTA so that I could use a client for sending mail through my ISPs mailservers, but also so that any system messages or local emails aren't forwarded to the ISPs servers.
[21:13] <Sazpaimon> does byobu work with putty?
[21:14] <DJones> Sazpaimon: Yes
[21:14] <genii-around> Eagleman: Those variables can be set in a few places, that's one of the files that's a possible for it.
[21:14] <Sazpaimon> I set putty to use Xterm for the function key behavior, and F1-F12 work, but ctrl+f2 doesn't split my window like it should
[21:14] <Sazpaimon> it just spawns a new window
[21:15] <DJones> Sazpaimon: Thats not something I ever used, I justed the basic features
[21:15] <Eagleman> genii-around the security file dominated the httpd file
[21:15] <HeKToN> plase tell me which room is for free talking
[21:15] <erreur> slt
[21:15] <Sazpaimon> and shift+f2 just sends tilde (~) character
[21:15] <erreur> ya qlq1
[21:15] <erreur> ?
[21:16] <TheLordOfTime> HeKToN, there's an offtopic channel, #ubuntu-offtopic, but you must still abide by the IRC rules and the Code of Conduct there.
[21:16] <DJones> HeKToN: General chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, although the normal guidelines for all ubuntu channels still apply
[21:16] <Sazpaimon> well then I guess it doesn't work
[21:16] <HeKToN> thank you :)
[21:18] <joako> I am trying to use VLC in ubuntu but there is no audio output. How can I enable audio for VLC?
[21:18] <Eagleman> Which  ServerName do i have to set if i have 2 FQDN's and 5 virtualhosts ?
[21:18] <erreur> hy how can i installe ubinto on my pc using flash disk
[21:19] <adamk> joako: Use pavucontrol to see if VLC is outputting to pulseaudio.
[21:19] <DJones> erreur: INformation on installing Ubuntu from a flash disk is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:20] <erreur> thank's DJones
[21:20] <joako> adamk: I think that´s a GUI app? I don´t have GUI access.
[21:21] <adamk> So what kind of files are you trying to play in vlc?  Presumably you're using console front end for vlc?
[21:22] <joako> adamk: I Have a .pls with mp3 streams. I can run it from the GUI and the music plays fine. BUt when I create an upstart script that runs VLC as the same user as before, there is no audio.
[21:23] <erreur> wow this is so chaos
[21:23] <erreur> eavry bodey talk's in da same time
[21:23] <joako> It appears to playback, but no audio actually comes from the soundcard. I am using the HTTP interface
[21:23] <erreur> how can i talke to somme one alone
[21:23] <Eagleman> !pm erreur
[21:24] <rgms> !pm
[21:24] <Eagleman> you will get used to it erreur
[21:25] <erreur> hope soo
[21:25] <Eagleman> took me 3.5 years
[21:25] <erreur> but hhhh alright nothing
[21:25] <erreur> lol
[21:25] <Eagleman> just joking :P
[21:26] <erreur> :p
[21:26] <DJones> erreur: You'll find that if somebody is speaking directly to you, in most cases, they'll say your nick at the start of the line which should highlight you in your irc client
[21:27] <erreur> hey i can probably speac french fluéntly not english
[21:27] <erreur> soo go eazy
[21:27] <Eagleman> !fs
[21:27] <erreur> plz
[21:27] <Eagleman> !fe
[21:27] <ilcadmin> hmm came here just to say hi lol:P
[21:27] <Eagleman> !fr
[21:27] <Eagleman> finally
[21:28] <carl-eric> Argh. It seems Ubuntu really is learning from Gnome and removing features, even from the damn installer. Ubiquity doesn't seem to allow the custom luks options the old alternate installer did.
[21:28] <rasanen7> Let's try this another way: What combination of an MTA and mail client would you recommend for the task of sending simply emails like system messages (through CLI/scripts) via my ISPs mail server?
[21:28] <erreur> it's ok i like it en englais c mieux
[21:28] <erreur> comme sa
[21:29] <Eagleman> I am running on port 443 ( HTTPS ) do i also need a ServerName Directive for that?
[21:29] <blno> erreur: you still write in french, and with lots of typos with that… (mais t'écris pourtant en français, et en sms en plus…)
[21:30] <ilcadmin> can anyone give me a link to "how to compile in xubuntu" (c++ i`m interested) thanks
[21:30] <erreur> wé est ... ?
[21:30] <Joba_Tett> Help me?
[21:30] <Joba_Tett> It says: /home/jobatett/Downloads/Builds.zip.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
[21:30] <Joba_Tett> I'm using FF and need to download a file.
[21:31] <joako> Is there any way to remove Pulse Audio in ubuntu and replace it with something more reliable?
[21:31] <ESphynx> Hey guys, how can I work around 'error: undefined reference to `glwMDrawingAreaWidgetClass'' while safekeeping my sanity?
[21:31] <joako> When I run a program from the GUI i get audio but when I run something from SSH I don´t get audio
[21:31] <blno> erreur: and so people won't help you here if you use French. And nobody will want to help you if you continue to type like you're texting too.
[21:31] <joako> And I don´t get any error!
[21:31] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Where do you expect to get the audio via ssh?
[21:32] <erreur> aaaah ok thank's so this chat thing is to help & stuf like that
[21:32] <joako> jhutchins_wk: From the same soundcard in the machine that works in the GUI
[21:32] <usr13> blno: First, you need to install package build-essential
[21:32] <blno> erreur: yep. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
[21:32] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Sorry, no congruent description.
[21:33] <erreur> i dont have any problems so they help me
[21:33] <erreur> nn its ok i get it now
[21:33] <erreur> mérçiiiiiii
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Do you expect it on the system you are originitating the ssh session from, or the remote system?
[21:33] <erreur> ops thank you
[21:33] <dlynes_laptop> erreur, Well, if you have no problems, you can always stick around and help others
[21:33] <usr13> !compile | blno
[21:34] <joako> jhutchins_wk: I run the program in the GUI and audio comes from the system´s sound card. I want to be able to run the same program as a service and have the audio come from the same sound card.
[21:34] <dlynes_laptop> erreur, merci beaucoups m'sieur
[21:34] <jhutchins_wk> joako: If I ssh to my workstation upstairs and do mpg123 daisy.mpg, the computer upstairs will sing "Daisy, Daisy" while the one I'm on will essentially do nothing.
[21:34] <usr13> !packages | blno
[21:34] <blno> usr13: it wasn't me who asked about compilation
[21:34] <Apachez> Linus Thorvalds tells kernel developer a merry xmas ;)   https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75
[21:34] <usr13> blno: Oh, sorry
[21:34] <randomuser33> Hello Ubuntu gawds, quick question...Would the latest version of ubuntu read exFat out of the box or would I need to install a package?
[21:34] <erreur> ok i'will but i cant understand somme words in english
[21:35] <erreur> it's ok i'll  try my best
[21:35] <randomuser33> erreur: Google translate ftw
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Some of the players/collection managers provide an interface that will allow you to control them remotely, but they usually have to be launched locally.
[21:36] <ESphynx> man I love Linus lol
[21:36] <joako> jhutchins_wk: The issue is no the interface. THe issue is if I don´t launch from the GUI there is no audio output
[21:36] <dlynes_laptop> erreur, bien quit, your english is just fine
[21:36] <erreur> ok thank's
[21:37] <erreur> Dlynes_lapltop
[21:37] <usr13> joako: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:38] <blno> is there a channel to discuss the new Ubuntu phone announcement?
[21:38] <joako> usr13: I am trying to run VLC a service. When I run VLC as a service or through SSH there is no sound output. WHen I run VLC from the GUI there is sound output
[21:38] <dlynes_laptop> blno, #ubuntu-discuss
[21:38] <jhutchins_wk> joako: That would be reasonable.  Your audio system is essentialy owned by the local GUI.  If you launch a GUI app remotely the display is forwarded, but the GUI already has control of the local sound.
[21:38] <blno> dlynes_laptop: thanks
[21:38] <joako> And I just ran MPG123 from SSH and again there is no sound output
[21:38] <zirpu> anyone had ethernet and wifi disappear after the latest update to network-manager-gnome ?
[21:38] <jhutchins_wk> joako: You would have to trigger the GUI app to launch in the existing local session.  There are ways to do that, but I don't know them.
[21:38] <DJones> blno: The discussion has been moved to #ubuntu-phone
[21:39] <joako> Previously I had openSUSE and I could run VLC as a service
[21:39] <blno> DJones: great, thanks
[21:39] <jhutchins_wk> joako: On the other hand, text based apps are not using X forwarding, and they can often access the mixer on the local system (as above with mpg123).
[21:39] <dlynes_laptop> DJones, thanks for the update....been sending everyone to #ubuntu-discuss :)
[21:39] <joako> I never said I was using x forwarding. And I said MPG123 also does not output audio
[21:40] <joako> What if I just didn´t want a GUI? I Could not use audio?
[21:40] <usr13> joako: That is normal.  The audio will originate [only] from the local PC.
[21:40] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Supposedly one of the reasons for pulseaudio is that you can run a -local- app on your machine and forward the sound to the output of a remote machine.  Again, I don't have details.
[21:40] <joako> usr13: So what is needed to enable the sound?
[21:40] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Investigate why mpg123 isn't working.  Does the user have permission to access /dev/dsp?
[21:41] <jhutchins_wk> joako: Are you running pulse or straight ALSA?
[21:41] <joako> jhutchins_wk: I am using the same user for the GUI and SSH. And I am using whatever is the default in Ubuntu 12.04
[21:42] <usr13> joako: The should should be heard on the pc that the app runs on.  Now, from a ssh session to another PC,  you may not even be able to run a gui app like vlc without first setting the display to the local machine with command:  export DISPLAY=:0.0  After that you should be able to run a gui app on the remote PC.
[21:43] <joako> usr13: VLC doesn´t need a GUI and that doesn´t explan why CLI-only mpg123 doesn´t work.
[21:44] <joako> I used to have openSUSE and I could run VLC as a service with the HTTP interface just fine and audio would come out of the machine´s sound card. Now in ubutnu I can not get sound as a service, or from SSH basically it has to be done MANUALLY from the local GUI.
[21:44] <usr13> joako: mpg123 should work as well, yes, and the audio should be heard on the PC that the app resides on.  Maybe you just need to turn up the volume.  Try alsamixer.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> joako: Pulseaudio automatically routs sound to the same place that $DISPLAY is going. You can also manually direct it to a remote machine.
[21:45] <vinceakavince> hey yall i dont know if this is where i should ask about having trouble installing ubuntu or not. but im having some difficulties
[21:45] <joako> Jordan_U: I don´t know what that means. There isn´t a display so maybe that´s the problem
[21:45] <randomuser33> Hello Ubuntu gawds, quick question...Would the latest version of ubuntu read exFat out of the box or would I need to install a package?
[21:46] <k1l_> !ask | vinceakavince
[21:46] <Jordan_U> joako: $DISPLAY is the variable related to X which tells applications which X Display (which doesn't neccessarily correspond to a physical display) to send commands to.
[21:46] <joako> usr13: Just turned up the volume to max on everythign and still nothing
[21:47] <Jordan_U> joako: It's basically (though not quite) the only difference between "ssh foo@bar" and "ssh -X foo@bar".
[21:47] <usr13> joako: Jordan_U is addressing your issue .
[21:47] <bekks> randomuser33: Looks like you have to install fuse-exfat for using exfat.
[21:47] <zirpu> here's a fun bug:  install arping and it uninstalls network-manager.  that was fun.
[21:47] <joako> Jordan_U: So what should I put in /etc/init/vlc.conf upstart script so audio will play?
[21:47] <randomuser33> Oh okay. I assumed I would have to do someting. Thanks! bekks
[21:48] <Jordan_U> joako: So the first thing I would try is "ssh -X foo@bar" then running mpg123 within that ssh session, though I'm not sure that will work as I haven't tried it before.
[21:48] <iceroot> zirpu: you created a bug for that already?
[21:48] <joako> Jordan_U: I am SSH in from a Windows PC
[21:48] <sander__> Can anyone point me in the right direction for how to contribute with graphics design work to any ubuntu related project?
[21:48] <usr13> To the question about exFAT:  http://superuser.com/questions/436368/how-to-open-exfat-ssd-in-ubuntu-12-04
[21:49] <DJones> !contribute | sander__ This should be a good place to start,
[21:51] <iceroot> zirpu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arping/+bug/119597
[21:51] <Jordan_U> joako: Then you're probably not going to be able to get this working automatically via ssh, because you need some network routable sound system to get the sound from the PC running mpeg123 to the machine you're sitting in front of, and pulseaudio is pretty much it for that. Though pulseaudio can be installed and used in Windows, I doubt that it integrates nicely with ssh clients to automatically route sound.
[21:52] <dcrouch> Hello everyone.
[21:52] <easy_err> hi, i have a compaq presario cq56, with a realtek rtl8191se 802.11b/g/n wifi adapter. I'm using Easypeasy OS based on ubuntu. I manage to connect to the wireless network but i'm unable to access any page whatsoever nor am I able to login to skype, empathy etc. any idea please?
[21:52] <joako> Jordan_U: I think you misunderstood me. I don´t want to direct the audio anywhere. SSH is just a test. I want VLC to run as a service and I want the audio to come from the local machine´s sound card
[21:52] <joako> But the same issue when I ssh is that audio is not output
[21:53] <dcrouch> Is there a way to get into single-user mode to reset root password on a local machine if fast boot options are enabled?   (No splash screen or anything at prompt, we just land in login menu).
[21:53] <usr13> joako: Have you tested the sound system?  If not, try play: /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[21:54] <usr13> joako: Have you tested the sound system?  If not, try:   play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[21:54] <Jordan_U> joako: Ahh, then I think you're running into a security problem. By default only the user at the active tty can output sound (so for example if you switch users, the old user's apps won't be able to play sound until you switch back to it).
[21:54] <joako> usr13: When I login via the GUI I can run VLC and everything plays fine, But when I run mpg123 or VLC from an SSH session.... or from an upstart script then there is no audio
[21:54] <Jordan_U> joako: And it's not based on UID (though I don't know exactly what it is based on).
[21:55] <lahwran> does anyone have a fresh install of ubuntu handy? would you tell me if it has the python-twisted package installed?
[21:55] <joako> Jordan_U: So what file do I need to chmod 777 to allow the audio from anywhere?
[21:55] <Jordan_U> joako: I can think of an ugly hack which will probably work though (and also may help you examine the situation to find out how to do this properly).
[21:56] <brendan_> is there a way to specify the directory in which a package via apt-get is installed to?
[21:56] <joako> Jordan_U: Please do go on
[21:56] <brendan_> ie: going to be using apt-get to install libyaml-dev, but would like it to go to /usr/local
[21:56] <Jordan_U> joako: Try opening a terminal on the physical machine, and start screen. Then ssh in and "screen -x" to connect to that screen session and run mpeg123 from there.
[21:57] <usr13> joako: That is an anomaly.  What is the OS?
[21:57] <joako> Jordan_U: 1) I don´t have access to the screen right now. 2) How would i do that from a startup script?
[21:57] <joako> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04
[21:57] <Jordan_U> joako: If that works, you can examine the differences between the environment inside and outside the screen session to maybe figure out how to do this properly.
[21:58] <usr13> joako: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[21:59] <joako> Can I remove pulse audio and use something else?
[21:59] <vinceakavince> im here on a friends pc. my computer that i want ubuntu on doesnt have a working browser. i downloaded the ubuntu 12.10 iso file, ran the universal usb installer.exe and formatted the usb and all that. restarted my computer, went to the boot options, selected the usb, and its saying "no configuration file found"
[21:59] <easy_err> hi, i have a compaq presario cq56, with a realtek rtl8191se 802.11b/g/n wifi adapter. I'm using Easypeasy OS based on ubuntu. I manage to connect to the wireless network but i'm unable to access any page whatsoever nor am I able to login to skype, empathy etc. any idea please?
[22:00] <usr13> joako: Yes.  YOu can remove pulseaudio and you'll be left with alsa
[22:00] <ESphynx> hey guys, why doesn't nm /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1.0.0 have any symbols at all?
[22:00] <joako> usr13: and alsa doesn´t need a GUI or have all of these ¨security¨ ¨features´ ?
[22:02] <usr13> joako: I don't know what the problem is.  Jordan_U and myself have given you several tips on how to troubleshoot the problem but I think we've pretty much exausted the possibilities.
[22:02] <usr13> joako: Try alsamixer
[22:03] <jonasthomas_> I have a dump question.  I'm running 10.04 and supposedly libgl1-mesa-glx 7.10.1-0ubuntu2 will cure all sort of problems
[22:03] <jonasthomas_> currently I have 7.7.1-1ubuntu3.1 in 10.04   Is there a way to back port this into 10.04 or is this going to force me into 12.04?
[22:03] <jrtappers> easy_err: can you ping any addresses?
[22:03] <joako> usr13: Yes when I run alsamixer I set the volumes to max
[22:03] <usr13> joako: Did you try  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*  ?
[22:03] <joako> I try to remove pulseaudio but it trys to remove others like gnome-session and vlc
[22:04] <joako> usr13: No but I tried mpg123 http://some/stream
[22:04] <usr13> joako: Try  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*  ?
[22:04] <easy_err> i cannot ping anything
[22:05] <jrtappers> Not addresses or IP's?
[22:05] <usr13> easy_err: What are you trying to ping?  IP addresses, or domain names?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> joako: Try "pasuspender mpeg123 foo.mp3" as that will suspend pulseaudio and have mpeg123 talk directly to alsa.
[22:06] <brendan_> is there a way to specify the directory in which a package via apt-get is installed to? ie: using like --prefix= when doing a source install so i can specify the path for the  apt-get install libyaml-dev?
[22:06] <usr13> easy_err: I can't "ping anything"  either, but I CAN ping a valid domain name and I can ping IP addresses that exist on my LAN.
[22:07] <usr13> brendan_: Not that I know of....
[22:07] <Jordan_U> joako: If that also fails then pulseaudio probably isn't what's arbitrating access to the sound card for this security feature (or at least isn't the only thing arbitrating access).
[22:07] <jrtappers> easy_err: Have you got an IP adress from DCHP?
[22:07] <joako> Jordan_U: ¨Feautre¨ not feature
[22:07] <usr13> easy_err: Do you have a network problem?
[22:07] <Jordan_U> brendan_: No. Why do you want to?
[22:08] <brendan_> because im currently compiling libyaml via source for a specific version
[22:08] <brendan_> and we are specifying the prefix as /usr/local
[22:08] <usr13> brendan_: You could use a symlink
[22:08] <brendan_> for use with ruby, etc.
[22:09] <ggherdov> Hi all. I have little knowledge of the lifecycle of an Ubuntu version. What is, now, the lowest version of Ubuntu that is, somehow, supported? I mean, if I am writing a software, and would like it to be packaged for Ubuntu, what is the lowest Ubuntu release that I need to make sure my thing is compatible with?
[22:09] <brendan_> it may work as is, but was curious
[22:09] <jrtappers> Is my name showing as registered, I don't know if I did it right or not
[22:09] <usr13> jrtappers: see for yourself.
[22:10] <Muphrid> ggherdov: 10.04 LTS which will end its life in march or april. If you would like to package something it is better to contribute to debian instead, then it will flow to ubuntu
[22:10] <usr13> jrtappers: Yes.  You are James.  Right?
[22:10] <joako> Jordan_U: No pasuspender doesn´t work either
[22:10] <brendan_> Jordan_U: im trying to make management easier, but not create new problem(s)
[22:10] <jrtappers> Yes, thanks
[22:10] <brendan_> working with Puppet
[22:10] <jrtappers> I am just getting used to this
[22:11] <ggherdov> Muphrid: really? I had the impression that packages comes first at Ubuntu, and later at Debian. I mean, Ubuntu has newer version of packages.
[22:11] <shiloh> is ubuntu going get rid of infinity anytime soon or is this it now?
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> shiloh  you mean Unity?
[22:11] <usr13> jrtappers: YOu can do:  /whois jrtappers
[22:11] <Muphrid> ggherdov: Ubuntu imports from debian Sid (regular releases) and testing (lts). Debian comes first
[22:11] <shiloh> MonkeyDust: yes sir, meant unity
[22:11] <ggherdov> Muphrid: ok
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> shiloh  you can easily install something else, if you don't like Unity
[22:12] <jrtappers> usr13: that doesn't seem to work for me
[22:12] <Jordan_U> ggherdov: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
[22:12] <easy_err> i am trying to ping addresses not ip's and yes, I think i have a network problem since I get connected to the network successfully but i am unable tu surf the web
[22:12] <jrtappers> I get nothing back
[22:12] <ggherdov> Jordan_U: thx
[22:13] <usr13> jrtappers: CHeck status window (Not sure what client you are using, but...)
[22:13] <shiloh> MonkeyDust: understood, i used to like it with gnome but have left, was just curious if they were going to move back or not.
[22:13] <jrtappers> usr13: XChat
[22:13] <jrtappers> easy_err: What IP do you get for google.com?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> ggherdov: You're welcome.
[22:14] <usr13> easy_err: route -n  #What is the gateway address?
[22:14] <usr13> easy_err: (Should be your gateway router's IP)
[22:14] <rstrt> Ok, I just saw the news about the Ubuntu phone. Does that imply that I can install Ubuntu over top of existing Android devices?
[22:14] <jrtappers> shiloh: you can install other window managers
[22:15] <easy_err> well, i gotta boot into linux to check...be right back...
[22:15] <usr13> easy_err: Wait
[22:15] <jrtappers> rstrt: Not yet, it seems to mean OEMS can add it, but some ROMS may happen
[22:15] <easy_err> k
[22:16] <jrtappers> rstrt, but if you want it on an android device at the moment there is a way with vnc I think...
[22:16] <rstrt> jrtappers; ah. Thanks. I don't want to run VNC into Ubuntu, It would be cool if I could load it onto my Gnex to test, we'll see where it goes.
[22:17] <jrtappers> Think that is one of the devices that will get a Beta Version in the next few weeks, il check
[22:17] <usr13> easy_err: Check the gateway IP first, see that it is, in fact, your gateway router's IP.  Then see what nameserver you are using, cat /etc/resolv.conf  It may be the router's IP and if so, you need to have your router's caching nameserver turned on and the router should have a valid nameserver from outside that it uses.  If not, or if you want to just sidestep all that, just 8.8.8.8  as your nameserver.
[22:17] <shiloh> jrtappers: understood, i might research that a little bit and try.
[22:17] <genteor> quit
[22:18] <jrtappers> shiloh, what Window Manager wold you like
[22:18] <joako> How do I disable the /etc/init.d/pulseaudio service?
[22:18] <usr13> easy_err: Also, check your IP.  ifconfig  See that you have been given an IP within the subnet of your router's dhcp pool. (Probably 192.168.1.x or something to that order.)
[22:19] <usr13> easy_err: Ok, you can go.
[22:19] <easy_err> thx
[22:19] <usr13> joako: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[22:20] <joako> usr13: It tries to remove other stuff too. So I just want to disable the service
[22:20] <joako> Not sure if /sbin/chckconfig is compatible in Ubuntu...
[22:20] <usr13> joako: What other stuff?  (Does it matter?
[22:21] <joako> usr13: I am not 1000% sure but it´s called bluecherry-desktop and I do not want to remove it. I just want to disable the pulseaudio from hell without deleting it right now
[22:21] <usr13> joako: chkconfig ?
[22:22] <usr13> joako: I'm not 1000% sure either, but just remove it.
[22:22] <joako> No. Can you just answer the question? How do I disable a service in Ubuntu?
[22:22] <usr13> joako: What does chkconfig have to do with any of this?
[22:22] <joako> usr13: I want to disalbe the /etc/init.d/pulseaudio service
[22:23] <joako> and in my system there´s no /sbin/chkconfig
[22:23] <usr13> joako: Just uninstall it.  What's the problem?
[22:23] <joako> usr13: IT WANTS TO REMOVE PACKAGES THAT **I** DONT WANT TO REMOVE
[22:23] <shiloh> jrtappers: i like gnome for use and mate for when playing some games
[22:23] <usr13> joako: Why not?
[22:24] <joako> usr13: because I dont want to
[22:24] <usr13> joako: YOu can always re-install later on if you want them back.
[22:24] <usr13> joako: Ok, never mind.
[22:24] <jrtappers> shiloh, you on 12.10?
[22:25] <joako> I used update-rc.d -f  pulseaudio remove. Is that correct to disable the service?
[22:25] <usr13> I suppose you could remove the executable bit from /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
[22:26] <shiloh> jrtappers: no thinking of installing again, had been using another distro since unity was infriendly for me to use
[22:26] <ztgu> ubuntu phone (Y)
[22:27] <shiloh> jrtappers: and its 12.10 that i am dl-ing
[22:27] <Kuhrect> hello
[22:27] <jrtappers> shiloh, follow these instructions http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[22:27] <dark> hello
[22:27] <Kuhrect> can any one help me getting skype installed?
[22:27] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, sure
[22:28] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, what Ubuntu version?
[22:28] <usr13> Kuhrect: go to skype.com, download, install.
[22:28] <ztgu> anyone with experience in powertop and lsmod?
[22:28] <shiloh> jrtappers: thank you for the assistance, much appreciated
[22:28] <Kuhrect> I downloaded precise_4.0.1.20-1-i386 and opened with Ubuntu Software Center.Click install and get error wrong architecture 'i386'
[22:28] <jrtappers> shiloh, glad to help
[22:28] <joako> Once I reboot I still have pulseaudo process running, so should I do this? chmod 000 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[22:29] <ztgu> Audio codec hwC0C0 is draining power from my laptop
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> usr13  i installed it from software center, after i deleted the conflicting install from the website
[22:29] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:29] <zwirc> Hi!
[22:29] <Kuhrect> 12.10
[22:30] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, Run these commands
[22:30] <jrtappers> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[22:30] <zwirc> Im ordering a dedicated server, whats best   http://www.webtropia.com/de/root-server/professional-root-server-details.html?pid=ProfessionalM vsthan http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4s
[22:30] <jrtappers> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[22:30] <usr13> Kuhrect: Is your system 32bit  or  64bit?
[22:30] <Kuhrect> 64
[22:30] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, I got that from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[22:31] <vinceakavince> im here on a friends pc. my computer that i want ubuntu on doesnt have a working browser. i downloaded the ubuntu 12.10 iso file, ran the universal usb installer.exe and formatted the usb and all that. restarted my computer, went to the boot options, selected the usb, and its saying "no configuration file found"
[22:31] <usr13> Kuhrect: Did you select the 64bit version?
[22:31] <Kuhrect> yeah
[22:31] <toordog> I
[22:31] <toordog> I'm having some issue with kerberos and I need to reinstall /usr/share/kerberos-config/*
[22:31] <toordog> any idea how to do that?
[22:33] <usr13> Kuhrect: I don't think there IS a 64bit version.  I think it just comes with 32bit libraries that enalbe it on your 64bit system.  Maybe you should try the package manager.  apt-cache search skype
[22:34] <Kuhrect> when i ran the command i got :  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:34] <Kuhrect>  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable
[22:34] <Kuhrect> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:34] <joako> What do I need to do to enable ALSA in ubuntu? I am getting the error: -A alsa,none
[22:34] <mkander> What is the best bare-metal backup strategy for an ubuntu server?
[22:34] <usr13> Kuhrect: sudo apt-get install -f
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> mkander  #ubuntu-server
[22:35] <mkander> thanks
[22:35] <WeThePeople> what does the alt button do?
[22:35] <RyuGuns> Hey, I need a bit of help.
[22:35] <joako>  alsa audio output error: cannot open ALSA device "default": No such file or directory
[22:35] <ztgu> how can I blacklist modules? An audio codec is draining my battery.
[22:35] <toordog> anyone know how to repopulate /usr/share/kerberos-config
[22:36] <Kuhrect> tappers you there?
[22:37] <VlanX> could anyone help me to enable 3D graphics with an old ATI card?
[22:37] <jrtappers> I am here
[22:37] <joako> And when I run ¨aplay -l¨ I get the error: aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[22:37] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, try apt-get install -f
[22:37] <jrtappers> It fixes some problems
[22:38] <WeThePeople> vlanx, do a lshw in terminal and paste.ubuntu.com
[22:38] <Kuhrect> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[22:38] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, sorry, sudo apt-get install -f
[22:38] <RyuGuns> I dualboot ubuntu 12.10 and Mac OS X 10.6 on a 2006 MacBook, whenever I log in on ubuntu, it freezes... so after time, when I log in, I switch to TTY4, login and run "sudo restart lightdm". It works, so I log in again and it just restarts...
[22:38] <usr13> Kuhrect: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[22:39] <jrtappers> usr13, is one of those meant to be upgrade, or update twice?
[22:40] <usr13> Kuhrect: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f
[22:40] <usr13> jrtappers: Tnx
[22:40] <Robbilie> just a quick question, when will the source for ubu for phones will be available?
[22:40] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, whats happening?
[22:40] <jrtappers> usr13, thats ok
[22:40] <Robbilie> i have the "superphone" or it from this website: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
[22:40] <zabomber> Robbilie: i read in a couple weeks... eagliy waiting too
[22:40] <Andril> hello all
[22:40] <Robbilie> zabomber, read the specs of the razr i and from the website :D
[22:41] <jrtappers> *, In XChat you can do a whosis by rightlicking names and selecting the first option
[22:41] <zabomber> Robbilie: do you have a link?
[22:41] <Robbilie> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
[22:41] <jrtappers> *Rightclicking
[22:41] <Robbilie> or do you mean the razr i?
[22:42] <Andril> i got to 2 GSM Galaxy Nexus & 1 HTC One X ready to go!
[22:42] <SailorMoon> whats the command to see what wireless device i have?
[22:42] <jrtappers> Robbilie, I thing that the Nexus might be first
[22:42] <zabomber> razr i...
[22:42] <zabomber> ;)
[22:42] <usr13> SailorMoon: lspci
[22:42] <Robbilie> http://www.motorola.de/consumers/MOTOROLA-RAZR-i/184583,de_DE,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones#tab
[22:42] <usr13> SailorMoon: or   lspci |grep ireless
[22:42] <InfiniteByte> Apropos ubuntu-phone: have i to buy a phone, that comes with ubuntu or can i install it on other smartphones?
[22:43] <Robbilie> jrtappers, i think so but the intel atom cpu is better for desktop support :D
[22:43] <SailorMoon> Anyone know anything about BCM4311?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> SailorMoon: Try asking your actual question.
[22:44] <Kuhrect> now what do i do
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | SailorMoon start here
[22:44] <SailorMoon> Anyone know how to get the BCM4311 working from a fresh install?
[22:44] <Robbilie> will it be capable of running dalvik?
[22:44] <zabomber> holy wow!!! thats a beatiful piece of tech....
[22:44] <zabomber> thanks Robilies
[22:44] <jrtappers> Robbilie, If its powerful the vnc trick may be worth a go
[22:44] <Robbilie> jrtappers, which vnc?
[22:45] <jrtappers> Robbilie, you run ubuntu from a terminal app then vnc in
[22:45] <usr13> SailorMoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:45] <usr13> SailorMoon: What does  iwconfig say?
[22:45] <Robbilie> i once ran it with chroot but upstart doesnt like chroot that much so i am using arch linux with chroot
[22:45] <az_> hello?
[22:46] <Kuhrect> usr13, i ran the commands now what?
[22:46] <root> hola
[22:46] <az_> tingly
[22:46] <root> hola mundo
[22:46] <jrtappers> Robbilie, Thats the way I was saying
[22:46] <usr13> Kuhrect: apt-cache search skype
[22:46] <Robbilie> jrtappers, yeah fullscreen vnc running minecraft was fun :D
[22:46] <usr13> Robbilie: What does upstart have to do with chroot?
[22:46] <Robbilie> you know upstart?
[22:46] <k1l_> !rootirc | Guest59587
[22:46] <Robbilie> it simply doesnt "upstart" xD
[22:47] <usr13> Robbilie: Ok, well, I guess I'll take your word for it, but I didn't think it would matter.
[22:48] <Robbilie> there are a lot of services need to be running to make anything work xD
[22:48] <Robbilie> arch linux is much easier with this ;)
[22:48] <Robbilie> i got sound to work!
[22:48] <Robbilie> no way with ubu xD
[22:48] <usr13> Robbilie:  What your saying doesn't make any sense.  Either you are using a wrong term or two or I'm just lost here.
[22:48] <Cong> position_constrain_workarea won't disable. help!
[22:49] <Robbilie> upstart <- service starting in ubuntu
[22:49] <Cong> tried almost everything
[22:49] <Robbilie> it manages the services right?
[22:49] <Robbilie> t
[22:49] <usr13> Robbilie: Right.
[22:49] <x0auser> Hi guys , whi i can't change icon's theme ! when i apply changement from ubuntu tweak all icons become grey !
[22:49] <usr13> Robbilie: And your point?
[22:49] <Kuhrect> urs13, i ran that command now what ?
[22:49] <x0auser> why*
[22:49] <az_> anyone here get the the new steam working?
[22:49] <Robbilie> and when i ran ubu wit chroot, upstart doesnt upstart
[22:49] <usr13> Kuhrect: What did it reply with?
[22:50] <Robbilie> got it? :D
[22:50] <Kuhrect> a list of things
[22:50] <usr13> Kuhrect: What was the output?
[22:50] <Cong> Hey, somebody try this. drag a window down and click away from the window. drag it up again and click away from the window again.
[22:50] <abcharold> Please could I be told a roundup of new features in ubuntu 12.10, I have the 12.04.1 LTS at the mo
[22:50] <usr13> Kuhrect: apt-cache search skype | pastebinit    #Show us resulting URL
[22:50] <jagginess> az_, yeah.. it works..
[22:51] <usr13> abcharold: You are in a good place, IMHO.
[22:51] <usr13> !lts | abcharold
[22:51] <Kuhrect> http://pastebin.com/7su2wG7N
[22:51] <jrtappers> Robbilie,  must have been laggy :D But COOL
[22:52] <Robbilie> mineraft made my phone run out of ram xD
[22:52] <x0auser> want to use default icon's theme of raring ringtail but icons become grey !  Why ?
[22:53] <riddlebox> I had my laptop on a charger all day, I take it off the charger and boot it up to ubuntu 12.10..and the power meter shows about half, and 3 hours and 55 min of battery life?
[22:53] <jrtappers> Should we change the update center icon?
[22:54] <vinceakavince> nevermind guys i figured it out :)
[22:55] <SailorMoon> "fatal: module ssb is in use"?
[22:56] <Sling> told ya, ubuntuphone :)
[22:56] <SailorMoon> I cant get it to work :(
[22:56] <jrtappers> We need an ubuntuphone channel
[22:56] <SailorMoon> There's an Ubuntu ARM channel, jrtappers
[22:57] <Jordan_U> jrtappers: #ubuntu-discuss for now, and also #ubuntu-phone.
[22:57] <usr13> Kuhrect: sudo apt-get install skype
[22:57] <SailorMoon> please help me, im running some modprobe -r command and it keeps telling me "FATAL: Module ssb is in use"
[22:58] <jrtappers> SailorMoon, Jordan_U, thanks
[22:58] <JohnWHSmith> Hello'.
[22:58] <Jordan_U> jrtappers: You're welcome.
[22:58] <usr13> SailorMoon: lsmod   #Probably already there.
[22:59] <Kuhrect> usr13, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:59] <Kuhrect>  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable
[22:59] <Kuhrect>  teamviewer7 : Depends: ia32-libs but it is not going to be installed
[22:59] <Jordan_U> SailorMoon: The module can't be removed while hardware is using it.'
[22:59] <SailorMoon> So what do i do about it, Jordan_U
[22:59] <gotwig> I wanna start 32 bit firefox nightly, aurora I guess: I get all the time libxul.so is missing, which package do I need?
[22:59] <gotwig> I run ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[22:59] <SailorMoon> nvm, i figured out my issue i think, Jordan_U
[23:00] <jrtappers> Kuhrect, is that my commands for install?
[23:00] <DominikST95> hey...Has anyone experience with ATI HD 4xxx drivers on Ubuntu 12.04? Want to update mine, but nothing is working...
[23:00] <Kuhrect> that is what i got when i "sudo apt-get install skype"
[23:01] <jrtappers> I have had driver disasters recently, blackscreens, terminal only all sorts
[23:01] <jrtappers> did you d the 1st command fisrt?
[23:01] <provenzano> wsup hackers :D
[23:02] <toordog> who's a hacker here?
[23:02] <Robbilie> haha :D
[23:02] <jrtappers> toordog, whats your definition?
[23:03] <jrtappers> toordog, If its breaking passwords on a locked computer because the user forgot the password then yes
[23:03] <gotwig> no idea how I can get libxul.so 32 bit for 64bit system??
[23:04] <Robbilie> jrtappers, omfg hes a hacker call the fbi!
[23:04] <andural> Hello
[23:04] <andural> I was wondering if anyone here can help me with a video issue
[23:04] <Robbilie> xD
[23:05] <jrtappers> Robbilie, hackers are who built the intenet, only blackhats are bad
[23:05] <Unguided> hello all. how do you add hard drives to ubuntu?
[23:05] <Robbilie> jrtappers, ok i further will use the #ironic tag ok? :D
[23:05] <gotwig> andural, ask
[23:06] <jrtappers> Robbilie, good thing I didn't say about arpspoof :D
[23:06] <Robbilie> jrtappers, dsploit is nice ;)
[23:06] <Miebster1> What do all of the columns of ls -l indicate, and why isn't it listed in the man page under ls -l
[23:06] <jrtappers> Robbilie, theres a fun tool to show people that Internetz is not securez
[23:06] <kvothetech> Unguided: partition format then mount it?
[23:06] <Robbilie> jrtappers, dsploit doesnt run on intel android :(
[23:06] <Robbilie> same for arpspoof
[23:07] <andural> I'm running 12.04 on a desktop with 2 nvidia cards.  After rebooting (ran some updates), it won't boot into graphical.  I'm form back in the xorg.conf and startx days, so I don't know where to start in fixing the issue
[23:07] <Abhish> Are there themes available for the Ubuntu website? I wanted to use it as the basis for another site.
[23:07] <Unguided> kvothetech: Newb. what tool do I use to do that with?
[23:07] <louiz920> is there anywhere to get the new mobile ubuntu source?
[23:07] <andural> I'm currently trying to remove nvidia-current and just using nvidia-common
[23:07] <jrtappers> Unguided, are these new drives
[23:08] <louiz920> not, 12.04 optimized for ARM, but the newer touch focused ubuntu
[23:08] <Abhish> louiz920, It is not yet available. SHould be just after the eighth.
[23:08] <jrtappers> Robbilie, have you seen hak5?
[23:08] <toordog> jrtappers it<s been done so well lately that USA try to pass law to control it all ;)
[23:08] <Unguided> kvothetech. Older blank drives.
[23:08] <louiz920> gotcha, guess i'll have to wait for CES :)
[23:08] <louiz920> thanks Abhish
[23:08] <Robbilie> jrtappers, isnt it the webshow?
[23:08] <jrtappers> toordog, remind me what we are talking about plz
[23:09] <jrtappers> Robbilie, yes
[23:09] <gotwig> just installed firefox:i386, fixed libxul.so error
[23:09] <kvothetech> Unguided: same process...
[23:09] <Robbilie> jrtappers, nope just watched it for a few secs and i was bored :D
[23:09] <jrtappers> Robbilie, a youtube podcast on computer security :D
[23:09] <kvothetech> unless it's a tape drive or something.
[23:09] <kvothetech> then you should just have to mount it
[23:09] <Robbilie> jrtappers, i have a friend with a bad history (da police took it all :( ) and hes my security expert ;)
[23:10] <jrtappers> Robbilie, If you use ssh use public key
[23:10] <Unguided> kvothetech: Ok. Thanks
[23:10] <SailorMoon> Kay guys noob time, lets say i used "sudo modprobe -r brcmsmac bcma" to unload something-or-other, and i want to blacklist it, what would i do?
[23:10] <andural> gotwig I'm running 12.04 on a desktop with 2 nvidia cards.  After rebooting (ran some updates), it won't boot into graphical.  I'm form back in the xorg.conf and startx days, so I don't know where to start in fixing the issue
[23:10] <Robbilie> jrtappers, i do ;)
[23:11] <jrtappers> I use public key and google authenticator for when I don't have my cert
[23:11] <Robbilie> jrtappers, you have to tell me more bout g auth
[23:11] <SailorMoon> Kay guys noob time, lets say i used "sudo modprobe -r brcmsmac bcma" to unload something-or-other, and i want to blacklist it, what would i do?
[23:11] <Abhish> SailorMoon, look for a file with blacklist in the name under /etc/modprobe
[23:11] <ESphynx> hey guys... all my panels disappeared... and ctrl-alt-f2 stupidly does not update the screen :S
[23:11] <gotwig> andural, have you just tried to run nvidia-xconfig?
[23:12] <SailorMoon> But whats the driver name, "brcmsmac" or "bcma" or "brcmsmac bcma"?
[23:12] <SailorMoon> Im not sure what to add
[23:12] <andural> gotwig not yet, let me run this and see what it does
[23:12] <Abhish> SailorMoon, WHy are you trying to blacklist that module?
[23:12] <gotwig> andural, where are you from?
[23:12] <Scunizi> What's in the repos that I can use to edit .bdm video files taken with a HD camcorder?
[23:12] <cnuulhu> I'm updating directly from a very old version of Ubuntu to to 12.04 (LTS). How should I go about backing up and restoring files for all users?
[23:12] <cnuulhu> And can I back up anything more than files?
[23:12] <SailorMoon> Because its conflicting and its making my wifi not work, Abhish
[23:12] <jrtappers> Robbilie, two factor authentication so even if the password for my accounts is sniffed im still secure
[23:12] <Abhish> What is your wifi car?
[23:12] <SailorMoon> "brcmsmac" or "wl" is making my wireless not work
[23:13] <Abhish> SailorMoon,
[23:13] <SailorMoon> BCM4311
[23:13] <andural> gotwig currently in California
[23:13] <Abhish> Hmm.
[23:13] <SailorMoon> i have it working now but only because i used modprobe -r
[23:13] <SailorMoon> i want it to work on boot
[23:13] <gotwig> andural, alright ;) I am from German
[23:13] <gotwig> y
[23:13] <Robbilie> jrtappers, hear alot bout that will enable that now because my password is too insecure
[23:13] <Abhish> SailorMoon, run sudo lsmod | grep b43
[23:13] <andural> gotwig : originally dutch :)
[23:14] <Abhish> SailorMoon, The reason I'm asking these questions is that I'm rather intimate with issues pertaining to broadcom chipsets.
[23:15] <SailorMoon> i have it rebooting, just to see.
[23:15] <jrtappers> Robbilie, Public wifi is insecure, so twofactor is needed, passwords c an be sniffed
[23:15] <andural> gotwig I manage to get to a different graphical login, which lets me type username/password and then does nothing
[23:15] <SailorMoon> Yeah, it isnt working, Abhish
[23:15] <Freeder> whats the best way to figure out what is causing a high system load? top doesn't show the culprit, its all at 0%
[23:16] <vinceakavince> im installing ubuntu 12.10 desktop on my computer alongside my windows xp (this is a friends computer im chatting on). its asking me to partition drive space. is that just asking how much of my hard drive do i want to use for windows and how much for ubuntu? or what? also is that something i can change in the future?
[23:16] <jrtappers> Freeder, sudo top
[23:16] <jrtappers> vinceakavince, why not wubi?
[23:16] <Freeder> I'm already running it as root
[23:17] <DominikST95> vinceakavince, partitions can be changed later, but it may be that some data gets lost
[23:17] <jrtappers> vinceakavince, OH yh, XP = no wubi, sorry
[23:17] <DominikST95> (if you do it wrong)
[23:17] <gotwig> andural, can you get to the ubuntu lightdm?
[23:17] <Robbilie> jrtappers, enabled :)
[23:17] <toordog>  jrtappers what about 7 then :)
[23:17] <Robbilie> jrtappers, now going to add a new pw additionally
[23:18] <andural> gotwig no.  doing a 'service start lightdm' gets me to this odd graphical login
[23:18] <SailorMoon> Abhish: simply typing "sudo modprobe b43" makes my wireless card work. what should i do to make it load at boot?
[23:19] <vinceakavince> hmm, how might i do it wrong? lol now youve got me worried. is there anything i should watch out for, or what would cause loss of data?
[23:19] <gotwig> andural, so the normal lightdm...?
[23:19] <gotwig> andural, the phrase before you are loged in
[23:20] <toordog> vinceakavince: just that resizing a partition is never 100% safe
[23:20] <VlanX> WeThePeople:  http://pastebin.com/KSYJ8Ncw
[23:20] <jrtappers> toordog, Please can you remind me, my chat history is a bit broken
[23:20] <andural> gotwig, I don't know, I haven't seen this one before.  The usual lightdm login looks different than what I get now.
[23:20] <toordog> jrtappers: I keep losing you :P
[23:20] <jrtappers> Oh, security tip, Use XARP
[23:20] <Abhish> b43... how is the performance? I usually have to blacklist that driver.
[23:20] <andural> gotwig I get this one http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pzVKVDOIYcQ/TNuIGKArGbI/AAAAAAAAFF4/eXHZ5RCL8Lc/s1600/LightDM+Industrial.png
[23:20] <vinceakavince> toordog: oh ok well thanks for the heads up
[23:20] <Abhish> All you should need to do is blacklist brcmsmac and wl.
[23:20] <DominikST95> if you for example try to make a full partition smaller, some data will be erased
[23:20] <Abhish> SailorMoon, ^
[23:21] <andural> gotwig but logging in does nothing, it just puts me back at that screen
[23:21] <Kuhrect> can any one help me install skype on ubuntu??
[23:21] <gotwig> andural, are you serious^^?
[23:21] <WeThePeople> vlanx, what dist?
[23:21] <jrtappers> toordog, I am back in the conversation flow
[23:22] <gotwig> andural, I think I know about your problem
[23:22] <VlanX> WeThePeople: 12.10
[23:22] <Abhish> SailorMoon, udev handles driver loading. Blacklist the offending drivers and it should act fine.
[23:22] <Abhish> Kuhrect, is it available in the app store?
[23:22] <toordog> jrtappers: i was just saying earlier that hacker shown so well that internet is not secure that now USA want to pass law to control the internet ;)
[23:22] <andural> gotwig that would be nice :)
[23:22] <gotwig> andural, you would have to remove some hiden .Xauthority files I guesss
[23:22] <gotwig> they are somehow corrupted
[23:22] <gotwig> or invalid
[23:22] <Abhish> If not, download it and install it. The package manager will make sure it works.
[23:22] <andural> gotwig interesting.  where are those normally located?  and, any idea how that happened?
[23:22] <gotwig> in your home directory
[23:23] <jrtappers> Its insecure, but only humans make mistakes
[23:23] <andural> gotwig hmm okay.
[23:23] <gotwig> andural, before that create a new user on terminal
[23:23] <az_> hello, i am trying to install a downloaded driver for radeon 2400. I can't seem to figure out to do so. Any help?
[23:23] <gotwig> andural, to test, if it has to do with that... I dont have much time, 00:23 AM here =)
[23:23] <jrtappers> toordog, SSL can be beaten, passwords can be sniffed so there are still security mountains to climb, but a MITM is always a problem
[23:24] <gotwig> andural, do you know how?
[23:24] <andural> gotwig yes
[23:24] <andural> gotwig I used to be able to fix this until they switched away from the old xorg system
[23:24] <plut0> ubuntu is booting up in the recovery menu every reboot, filesystem state = read-only, any idea how to fix this?
[23:24] <SailorMoon> Abhish: how do i blacklist them? D:
[23:24] <gotwig> plut0, yeah
[23:25] <gotwig> plut0, so, do you want to become write rights first?
[23:25] <impiza> hi any programmer
[23:25] <jrtappers> toordog, But the internet is hard to police, and thats part of its brilliance and part of the problem
[23:25] <impiza> i want a little help
[23:25] <impiza> plz pm me
[23:25] <plut0> gotwig: / is read-write, its a bogus message
[23:25] <gotwig> impiza, whats up...
[23:25] <ESphynx> guys... all my panels are gone :| help please? I tried to reinstall gnome-panel it doesn't help :S
[23:26] <impiza> off topic gotwig
[23:26] <gotwig> plut0, so do you want to know how to mount it writeable?
[23:26] <impiza> plz pm me
[23:26] <andural> gotwig that worked, thank you :)
[23:26] <plut0> gotwig: it is writable...
[23:26] <gotwig> impiza, spammer -..-
[23:26] <VlanX> WeThePeople: do you think it would be possible to enable graphic acceleration?
[23:26] <ESphynx> also now ctrl-alt-f1/f2 is completely messed up while X is running... the console only comes back after I ctrl-C my 'startx'
[23:26] <Muphrid> SailorMoon: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:26] <impiza> o_O
[23:26] <gotwig> andural, with your normal user?
[23:26] <jrtappers> What languages can Ubuntu software center apps be made in?
[23:26] <gotwig> andural, I am happy as well :-)
[23:27] <schultza> how do i add a folder to the the nautilus sidebar?
[23:27] <gotwig> plut0, so you want to start  without recovery?
[23:27] <plut0> gotwig: yes
[23:27] <Appiano> hi guys i run ubuntu 12 i installed foxit reader but it comes out in chinese, could somebody help me? i need to use it for my thesis tomorrow morning, please! how do i change the language of the software, i looked it up online and found nothing, thanks
[23:28] <gotwig> plut0, does it start in normal mode when you select it?
[23:28] <plut0> gotwig: yeah it boots fine, just comes up with the recovery console every reboot
[23:28] <schultza> ah, nevermind
[23:28] <az_> ok, so there are no drivers technically, weird...
[23:28] <jrtappers> schultza,  do you mean bookmarks
[23:28] <gotwig> plut0, try to get grub to generate all your entries new
[23:28] <plut0> gotwig: update-grub, did that already
[23:29] <deltab> Appiano: specifically foxit, or would another pdf reader do?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> Appiano: There are many other PDF readers available. Do you need to use Foxit?
[23:29] <gotwig> plut0, have you written the changes on the disk?
[23:29] <plut0> gotwig: yes
[23:29] <deltab> Appiano: you probably have evince installed already
[23:30] <gotwig> plut0, first grub-mkconfig than grub-update, than grub-setup diskname or grub-install diskname
[23:30] <Jordan_U> plut0: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline" when it boots this way?
[23:30] <kysstfafm> is he a GOG gamer?
[23:30] <gotwig> I always forget if its grub-setup or install... try both
[23:30] <Appiano> I found out that the search function works a lot quicker with Foxit. do you suggest any alternative?
[23:30] <DominikST95> how can i update my ATI HD 4870 driver? No tutorial on the internet worked -.-
[23:30] <gotwig> plut0, grub-install diskname that is
[23:31] <gotwig> plut0, have you run grub-mkconfig before?
[23:31] <provenzano> hey guys did some1 used DSL on usb?
[23:31] <k1l_> DominikST95: why you want to update?
[23:32] <plut0> gotwig: tried those commands, no luck
[23:32] <Jordan_U> gotwig: grub-update isn't a command, update-grub is a wrapper around grub-mkconfig, grub-setup is a utility that shouldn't be run manually, grub-install is OK to run manually but doesn't need to be to update the grub.cfg. Most importantly though you should never suggest that people run commands without knowing what they actually do, especially for something as important as the bootloader.
[23:32] <k1l_> provenzano: dsl like in damnsmalllinux?
[23:32] <provenzano> yes
[23:32] <gotwig> Jordan_U, oh well
[23:32] <DominikST95> try to take part in the Steam beta
[23:32] <k1l_> provenzano: better try the dsl support for that
[23:32] <plut0> Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.2.0-35-generic root=UUID=89b81a52-71fd-414c-ad3b-59192bf9cd06 ro recovery nomodeset
[23:32] <gotwig> Jordan_U, I know what happens in all cases, sir
[23:32] <SailorMoon> how do i go about using gedit with admin/root privs?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> gotwig: Clearly not, or you wouldn't have given the recommendation that you did.
[23:33] <DominikST95> and the driver i have doesn't support a specific OpenGL function...
[23:33] <deltab> Appiano: firefox and chrome both have built-in pdf support now; I don't know how fast the searching is
[23:33] <gotwig> plut0, where are you from?
[23:33] <SailorMoon> nvm figured it out
[23:33] <k1l_> SailorMoon: you can use gksudo
[23:33] <gotwig> Jordan_U, bye
[23:34] <gotwig> duno why I am even here :/
[23:34] <Jordan_U> plut0: For some reason "recovery" is in the linux cmdline. Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub?
[23:34] <plut0> Jordan_U: i fixed it
[23:34] <SailorMoon> "this file is autogenerated by bcmwl. all changes to this file will be lost"? Its blacklisting my driver
[23:34] <ESphynx> it's thinking I have 2 screens or something :S
[23:35] <az_> what would you guys say is the best source for a new linux/ubuntu user information?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> !manual | az_
[23:35] <Sling> az_: what kind of information do you mean?
[23:36] <SailorMoon> Abhish "this file is autogenerated by bcmwl. all changes to this file will be lost"? Its blacklisting my driver
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Appiano: evince is the default PDF reader in Ubuntu, and works quite well.
[23:37] <jrtappers> Whats the best ubuntu manual I can suggest to help someone
[23:38] <dr_willis> the  Ubuntu manual site should be stop #1.
[23:38] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:39] <machicola> shouldn't ALT+F9 minimize window in Ubuntu 12.10 , gnome fallback
[23:40] <machicola> been having all these issues with keyboard combinations
[23:40] <jrtappers> thanks dr_willis
[23:41] <deltab> machicola: they've add some new ones which have replaced the old ones
[23:42] <deltab> machicola: check the keyboard shortcuts settings
[23:43] <machicola> ok
[23:44] <jrtappers> ok
[23:45] <machicola> weird , it was set to CTRL+ALT+0
[23:45] <deltab> machicola: I don't see why they can't keep both, but whatever
[23:46] <deltab> ah, yes, ctrl+alt+numpad-digit moves the window to the corresponding part fo the screen, or toggles maximize
[23:47] <yacc> Just wondered, (and despite the sound of it, I'm not trolling), but Ubuntu seems to be the master of mobile vapor-ware, I mean, Ubuntu/Android => no downloads for existing hardware, no custom hardware for it, and now basically the same with "Ubuntu for Smartphones"? *sign*
[23:47] <yacc> *sigh*
[23:47] <machicola> yea, tbh, it seems kinda cool a lot of it.... just gotta check it out i guess
[23:52] <xui34> does anyone know of a storage device which will show up on a network as a printer and then store print jobs sent to it (rather than printing them)
[23:52] <dr_willis> xui34:  cant say ive ever seen that done.  You could use the various 'print to file'  or the pdf-printer printerdriver thing.
[23:53] <hanasaki> how do you get a virtual kvm machine to network so it can get an dhcp address from the network instead of being NAT through kvm?
[23:53] <dr_willis> if my printer is offline the server just queus them up. :)
[23:53] <hanasaki> it used to work.. then I upgraded to the most current ubuntu
[23:53] <xui34> dr_willis: yea- I was thinking of doing that... wouldn't be as convenient
[23:53] <Guest30104> any answer for this question ?: I'm am trying to find my way around the compatibility problems Linux O/S have with Adobe Creative suite Programs. Can Ubuntu read Apple drivers? I have an apple based version of Adobe Creative Suite and was wondering if it would be possible to install these programs on Ubuntu.
[23:54] <Jordan_U> Guest30104: No, Ubuntu cannot run applications written for OSX.
[23:55] <dr_willis> xui34:  its not real clear on whyyou are doing this. perhaps pthers may hae ideas if you give more details
[23:56] <dr_willis> Guest30104:  you dont run apple software on linux. SOME windows apps can work with wine.
[23:56] <MMavipc> Getting into the phone business, eh?
[23:56] <dr_willis> Guest30104:  i dont thinkthe term 'drivers' is correct in what you said. ;)
[23:56] <Guest30104> dr_willis just copied an old question
[23:56] <dr_willis> Guest30104:  You dont run Apple Apps on Linux.
[23:57] <dr_willis> 'reading drivers'  vague. and most likely a NO also. ;)
[23:57] <dr_willis> Not all Adobe apps work in Wine either.
[23:57]  * dr_willis covers all the bases
[23:57] <Guest30104> I was wondering as I like Ubuntu one platform for all devices if I could have found a way to work on linux based OS
[23:58] <xui34> dr_willis: i run a tech shop and order lots of parts... right now i just send the receipts right to a laser printer. there are other ways to do this (samba, etc) and a network area storage device. however i'd prefer to just go to file print -> and select the printer rather than have to browse for the location of the network area storage device.
[23:58] <dr_willis> work time for me... bbl
[23:58] <jrib> xui34: you could print to file and then probably set the default location for those files to some network device
[23:58] <zoie> hello, how can i record the sound that's coming out of my computer?
[23:59] <jrib> xui34: I imagine you can do what you proposed originally too though I have no experience with that
[23:59] <xui34> jrib: i could; was hoping to find a device though that acted as a fake printer which was easy to add like a typical hp printer is. i'm frequently running from CD/and or various computers.