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Jordan_Uzoie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171287/how-to-pass-record-audio-output-as-an-input-device00:00
xui34jrib: it would be really convenient if i could just go to add a printer, it see it, and then i can select it.00:01
jribxui34: http://www.cups-pdf.de/ maybe has some useful info00:03
jribxui34: so I guess you can just setup cups-pdf on your server; or at least that's how it reads00:04
zoieJordan_U: i tried but it didn't help : http://i.imgur.com/NYvGw.png00:04
konamhi, i have a Dell Inspiron 14z (N411z) and everything is recognized out of the box! except for the fact that the touchpad doesn't seem to be very sensitive, sometimes it doesn't even register several clicks made in a row! (made on the touchpad, not the buttons). also, the touchpad doesn't seem to be very fast even though it is configured to be at its fastest on the settings. this touchpad sucks on windows, but not on this level. on windows it never misses cli00:04
konamcks00:04
xui34jrib: that might actually be what i'm looking for basically00:04
jribxui34: it's in the repositories too (as cups-pdf)00:04
xui34jrib: i wasn't thinking of it as a piece of software although if i can setup a simple computer and install that it might do what i want00:05
jribxui34: what were you thinking of originally?00:05
bt5exit00:06
SailorMoonAnother noob question: Can i install RPM packages?00:06
jribSailorMoon: you shouldn't.  Use the repositories and APT00:06
jrib!software | SailorMoon00:06
ubottuSailorMoon: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents00:06
SailorMoonBut what if i want to use Oracle's Java instead of the openJDK thing, jrib?00:06
jrib!java | SailorMoon00:07
ubottuSailorMoon: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.00:07
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xui34jrib: i was thinking there maybe was a complete product (like a storage device that emulated a printer on the network; that fake printer that you printed to over the network would store the pdfs on the device itself)00:07
jribxui34: oh I see.  Like a ready-made hardware device00:07
xui34jrib: yes- exactly00:08
jribxui34: I guess you can make one with cups pdf :)00:08
xui34jrib: it would be extremely handy.00:08
SailorMoonvery complex install. not worth it. lol00:08
xui34jrib: yea- i think cups pdf might work00:08
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zoieJordan_U: any idea as to why it's not working?00:11
SailorMoonwhats a good way to test 3D HWA?00:11
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SailorMooni want to be sure the graphics driver is working or whatver :P00:11
MuphridSailorMoon: what is the brand?00:13
SailorMoonIntel00:13
SailorMoonIts like an Intel GMA 845 or something along those lines00:14
Muphridthen it is free software and included in the respective xorg package by default00:14
Muphridxorg-xserver-video-intel i believe00:14
spjtSailorMoon: probably the screensaver00:14
zoiei followed step by step this how to (using audacity instead of sound recorder, but it's still flat :()00:14
Muphridyou can still test it in glxinfo or glxgears00:15
zoiehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144083300:15
Muphridthe easiest way00:15
SailorMoontesting with Minecraft00:16
SailorMoonthats how i role00:16
SailorMoonOr roll00:16
moncapitanehow do I get around an issue when the server is in init=/bin/bash (single user mode) and when I run passwd, it doesn't prompt for the password but gives me the following error: passwd: authentication token manipulation error passwd: password unchanged00:18
moncapitanepartition is in rw and the shadow file has 000 permissions00:18
SailorMoonFullscreen mode doesnt work. it did on Mint. So. :P lol00:19
genii-aroundmoncapitane: Is / mounted rw ?00:19
MuphridSailorMoon: that could also be a DE problem.00:20
Jordan_Umoncapitane: Why are you using init=/bin/bash rather than actually using single user mode? Why does /etc/shadow have 000 permissions when it should have 640?00:20
moncapitaneI don't know the root password so I didn't know single would work and 640 doesn't work either.00:21
litropyHi, all. #httpd is quiet. I've just installed standard apache2 on ubuntu; I've added cgi-bin to www, and I'm just looking to give execcgi access to that folder. Is it just a matter of editing apache2.conf with this (used /n for returns to avoid irc scrolling): <Directory /var/www/cgi-bin> /n Options ExecCGI /n SetHandler cgi-script /n </Directory>00:21
moncapitaneJordan_U: no matter the permissions, I get the same error00:21
moncapitane000 or 64000:21
Jordan_Umoncapitane: There is no root password by default in Ubuntu, and thus no password prompt for single user mode. (And as you know, a prompt for a password for single user mode is already a little silly, given how easily it can be bypassed if you have local access to the machine).00:22
hydrox24moncapitane: Sorry, I just logged in, can you repeat the error for me and what program it's coming from?00:22
moncapitanehow do I get around an issue when the server is in init=/bin/bash (single user mode) and when I run passwd, it doesn't prompt for the password but gives me the following error: passwd: authentication token manipulation error passwd: password unchanged00:22
Jordan_Umoncapitane: Why was it ever 000?00:22
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hydrox24are you talking about the permissions of a certain file?00:23
Ryan52Hi, I have a script that uses ANSI color codes but I can't seem to escape them for line length purposes, I tried to use \[ which works for $PS1 gets ignored and \001 which works on Mac OS X just gets printed as well. Anybody have any ideas for alternatives?00:23
moncapitaneyes, on /etc/shadow hydrox2400:23
Jordan_Umoncapitane: It sounds like you have some serious problems with your installation, and I think figuring out what got you to this state will help figure out how to fix things and set whatever password you want to set. (By the way, you should *not* set a root password).00:23
hydrox24Because the solution seems to be remounting root as read/write....00:23
hydrox24mount -rw -o remount /00:23
moncapitanehydrox24: already did that, same error00:24
moncapitaneJordan_U: I understand, i'm trying with my user cst##### and it gives me the same error, passwd cst##### authentication without the ability to type anything in00:24
hydrox24did the command work?00:24
moncapitanehydrox24: yes, command went through without any issues00:24
hydrox24try making a file in the root directory and removing it again.00:24
moncapitanealready did that00:24
hydrox24touch tempfilefordebug00:24
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moncapitaneI can create a file called test00:24
hydrox24ok.00:25
Jordan_Umoncapitane: Why were the permissions on /etc/shadow ever 000?00:25
moncapitanebecause all the forums I was reading said it needs to be 00000:25
hydrox24check that the date is set correctly in bios and that the timestamp on the shadow file isn't weird00:25
moncapitanethe date if right00:25
|Anthony|looking in the repo for teamspeak, there is only an i386 package... is that still usable on the amd64 arch00:25
moncapitanealready chekced all of that.00:25
Jordan_Umoncapitane: Can you link to one of these forums? (because that's completely wrong).00:25
moncapitanehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/91188/authentication-token-manipulation-error00:26
moncapitanethats one of them.00:26
moncapitaneJordan_U: current permissions on /etc/shadow is 64000:26
moncapitanesame error appears00:26
|Anthony|anyone have a thought on that?00:26
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moncapitane|Anthony|: yes, you can use i368 packages on a 64 bit machine00:27
|Anthony|danka00:27
litropymoncapitane, do you remember the moment when you noticed this issue? Do you remember what you were doing before then?00:27
Jordan_Umoncapitane: Try actually booting into single user mode, rather than bypassing init completely as you're doing with init=/bin/bash, and see if that works. You can get to single user mode by selecting the "recovery mode" entry from the grub menu.00:27
moncapitaneJordan_U: when I use recovery mode, it still asks for the current password or use ctrl-d to continue when I go to prompt00:28
excervohello guys, where can i get chat support with macos?00:28
litropyexcervo, #mac00:28
excervolitropy, thanks00:29
moncapitaneI just did single in the grub and now it says, give root password for maintenance (or type control-d to continue): and I don't know the password00:29
hydrox24|Anthony|: if you have any issues installing it (dependencies and the like) just run "sudo apt-get -f install" without any package names or anything to fix the issues.00:29
hydrox24control-d then?00:29
litropyexcervo, #macdev if you're programming, but they're a little grumpy.00:30
moncapitaneputs me back at the recovery menu00:30
moncapitaneoptions are resume, clean, dpkg, grub, netroot, root00:30
hydrox24moncapitane: maybe the best way to go is to boot from a USB or CD and mount the root filesystem from there.00:30
moncapitaneYea, that is a good idea.00:30
|Anthony|hydrox24, it's listing a bunch of i386 deps... mostly c libraries and gcc00:30
|Anthony|is that going to interfere with the 64 bit versions already installed/00:31
hydrox24no.00:31
hydrox24It's normal, just go ahead and install them, it might take a while if this is your first i386 package.00:31
|Anthony|sure is00:32
|Anthony|:/00:32
|Anthony|tried to maintain a 64 bit system00:32
|Anthony|heh00:32
zoiei'm not able to record my output sound with audacity; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1440833 i've followed this step by step guide but it's still flat http://i.imgur.com/NYvGw.png00:32
|Anthony|wonder why there is no 64 bit version of ts in the repos00:32
Muphridit is proprietary software00:32
marcus__uhum00:32
|Anthony|mmm00:32
Muphridand TS is basically using wine as its emulator00:32
Muphridif you extract the deb package you will see a wine folder00:33
|Anthony|ha00:33
|Anthony|that's funny00:33
excervolitropy, tried to join #mac but it ses i must be invited00:33
|Anthony|though ts was native linux00:33
|Anthony|guess not00:33
litropyexcervo, try /join ##mac00:33
zyngawowCan anyone please help? I dediced to install ubuntu and I get the following message: "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try intsalling again". I am using the 12.10 64 bits version, and my processor is an i3 530.00:34
Muphridno it isnt00:34
Muphridand wine relies on lib3200:34
|Anthony|well, that'll do it i suppose00:34
sickooxfv00:35
sickoohi00:35
ClientAliveI'm trying to understand burning an avi documentary onto a dvd and playing it. I've only ever use k3b on ubuntu before but never for anything like this. If the device I'll be playing the dvd in plays .avi then do I even need to convert the file? Can't I just burn the avi file as avi and shove it in the player?00:35
casabuenas noches00:36
MuphridClientAlive: I dont know how your player acts, in mine I just make a data project and add the avi files there00:36
casaubuntu es el mejor sistema del mundo00:36
excervolitropy, can't join ##mac it ask me to be identified with the services00:36
Jordan_UClientAlive: If the device your playing on supports that partucular video's codecs, then you're fine. AVI is a container format, and tells you next to nothing about what codecs are actually used.00:37
litropyexcervo, it seems you have to register your nick.00:37
ClientAliveMuphrid: ok. Well it's an xbox 360. Idk either but guess I can try it.00:37
litropyexcervo, /join #freenode and ask them to help you.00:37
ClientAliveok00:37
excervolitropy, thanks ill try that00:37
ESphynxHey guys... when I turn on 3D acceleration in VirtualBox, my desktop disappears... WTH? like it's on another screen or something?00:37
icerootexcervo: its normal for apple-stuff that you are not allowed to do specific things ;)00:38
zyngawowPlease can somebody help with an error installing ubuntu? I guess it has to do with HDDs. I get the following message: "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try intsalling again". I am using the 12.10 64 bits version, and my processor is an i3 530. If I try to mount the HDDs, I get this: error mounting filesystem not authorized to perform operat00:38
ESphynxi can interact with the desktop (e.g. create a file there) but it's like that's not the main screen? so it's unusable00:38
ClientAliveI suppose I want to be sure the thing recognizes there being a file on the disc. Maybe be sure it isn't burned on there inside a directory or something?00:38
psychopathichi guys00:39
christopherhello all00:40
litropy#httpd is quiet. I've just installed standard apache2 on ubuntu; I've added cgi-bin to www, and I'm just looking to give execcgi access to that folder. Is it just a matter of editing apache2.conf with this: <Directory /var/www/cgi-bin> /n Options ExecCGI /n SetHandler cgi-script /n </Directory>  (used /n for returns to avoid irc scrolling)00:41
christopheranybody familiar with the book ubuntu unleashed?00:41
psychopathicchristopher, it contains the basics00:42
MoL0ToVzyngawow, you can delete all contenent in the disk? if yes, do: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda ; then after 30 secs CTRL+C ; then run the installer00:42
christopherI am thinking about ordering it.  Is it recommended?00:43
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litropyIs there a more active chan for apache2 than #httpd?00:43
zyngawowMoL0ToV: I formatted both HDDs00:44
iceroot!alis | litropy00:44
ubottulitropy: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*00:44
litropyiceroot, thx00:44
MoL0ToVzyngawow, with dd command you delete all info in the disks00:44
MoL0ToVso bad or not standard info about partitions go away00:44
dr_williszyngawow:  how did you partition the disks?00:45
zyngawowMoL0ToV: I do sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda;?00:45
zyngawowdr_willis: disks tool on ubuntu00:45
dr_williszyngawow:  and you made them what filesystem?00:45
zyngawowext400:45
dr_willisso whats the actual problrm then?  you tell the installer to use one of the ext4's as the / and you get an error?00:47
F3Speechlooking for some help with a networking error using cli - basic prob is usb wifi adaptor will only connect to network is i reset my router00:47
zyngawowdr_willis: the installer doesnt run again00:47
MoL0ToVzyngawow, on the disk there are sda1 as ext4 and sda2 as linux-swap?00:47
MoL0ToVot what partitions config?00:48
zyngawowMoL0ToV: no, that wasnt working, so I formatted everything to just ext400:48
dr_williszyngawow:  after partitiong ive seen cases where a reboot is needed to  refresh the partition info00:48
zyngawow20 reboots?00:48
MoL0ToVzyngawow, if you install linux you need minimal 2 partitions, 1 monted as root and other linux-swap00:48
zyngawowMoL0ToV: The thing is, I cant install00:49
MoL0ToVok00:49
MoL0ToVuse the dd command00:49
dr_williszyngawow:  i dont know your details.    if you got a ext4 partition use the 'somthing else' option in the installer and have it mounted to /00:49
MoL0ToVthen reboot and installer must work00:49
moncapitaneJordan_U: you still around?  I booted with a knoppix cd and tried to mount and chroot and passwd and get the same error00:50
dr_williswhats  happening when you run the installer exactly?00:50
moncapitaneJordan_U: what else can I look for?00:50
zyngawow1 sec00:50
zyngawowOk, I get t the livecd session, what should I do know00:51
zyngawowoh00:51
zyngawownow I get black console screen00:51
zyngawowjust that00:51
virtuelvI had a brief look at the Ubuntu web site - is there any SDK documentation around without downloading the SDK?00:51
virtuelvspecifically for the HTML5 SDK00:52
F3Speechanyway know there way around troubleshooting wifi problems from cli?00:54
dr_willisF3Speech:  theres various wireless commands in the cli00:54
dr_willisiwlist and other iw* commands00:55
dr_willis!wifi00:55
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:55
F3Speechyeah, i have a particular problem i need some help with, googled what i cant but no fix00:55
F3Speechmy wifi works fine but only when i restart my router00:55
dr_willisyou have to reboot the router every time you boot up ubuntu?00:56
F3Speechthe server boots ok but just with no connection00:56
moncapitanedr_willis: how do I figure out the cause of the inability to reset passwords using the passwd command?  doesn't give me a way to put in a password but gives authentication error00:57
F3Speechthen if i reboot my router it will detect and connect00:57
dr_willismoncapitane:  odd.    even 'sudo passwd username' wont change the users password?00:58
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F3Speechtheres a couple of things that might point to a problem, if i unplug my wifi and reconnect it i get the fdollowing error ath: Failed to wakeup in 500us00:59
moncapitanedr_willis: no, gives the passwd: authentication token manipulation error00:59
moncapitaneIts not like i'm getting to enter a new password or anything.00:59
dr_willismoncapitane:  could be the passwd file or /etc/shadow is currupted.00:59
dr_willisor / is read only00:59
adfki accidentally deleted my /etc/printcap. how do i restore it?01:00
moncapitanemounted as rw from the knoppix live cd before going to chroot01:00
moncapitanealready re-built the shadow file.01:00
moncapitaneHow do you re-create the passwd file if shadow is fubared?01:00
moncapitanepasswd permissions are 644 and shadow is 64001:00
jribmoncapitane: you have a /etc/passwd- .  But how did they become fubared?01:01
dr_willisno idea. manes me wonder why all this broke in the first place01:01
moncapitaneWhat is the passwd- file?01:01
icerootadfk: # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8)01:01
moncapitanejrib: not sure, i'm a new admin to the box and hasn't worked since I got it01:01
icerootadfk: /etc/cups/printers.conf  is used to create the file01:01
jribmoncapitane: well /etc/passwd- is a backup of /etc/passwd01:01
moncapitanepasswd- is from 2 minutes before passwd was generated and there isn't a shadow-01:02
adfki don't have a printers.conf in my /etc/cups directory.01:02
sneezerhi, I want to ask you a question... I will install Linux sometime, how do you advice me to use it? via LiveCD or in a different partition with dual boot??01:02
jribmoncapitane: what is your question?01:02
cordovalwhy virtualbox is broken?01:02
cordovalanyone knows a fix?01:02
cordovalon ubuntu 12.1001:02
genii-aroundsneezer: The usual way is dual-boot01:02
moncapitanejrib: I'm trying to reset passwords but i'm not able to input anything.  Just gives authentication error01:03
jribmoncapitane: what did you mean by "fubar" exactly when you said passwd and shadow were fubar?01:03
F3Speechdr_willis: the other thing thats not right is when i /etc/network/inferfaces restart i get the following error ioctlsiocsiwencodeext]: invalid argument01:04
moncapitanethere isn't any entries in passwd or shadow that had the hash for the passwords.  Its just x01:04
icerootjrib:  fucked up beyond all recognition01:04
sneezer@genii-around thanks, I will do that... just to be sure I was doing the right way. I want to explore and learn more about linux01:04
moncapitaneis there a way to fully rebuild the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files?01:04
jribmoncapitane: you're being too vague.01:04
icerootmoncapitane: from your backup01:04
moncapitaneiceroot: no backups on the server01:05
moncapitanei'm not the one who built it.01:05
adfkhow can i uninstall the LPR driver?01:05
jribmoncapitane: what ubuntu version is this anyway?01:05
moncapitane10.04 LTS01:05
icerootmoncapitane: you could use a live-cd create a user and set the password "foobar" copy the hash and put it in your broken passwd01:05
jribmoncapitane: so your shadow file had "x" for passwords?  Are you sure?01:05
icerootin the shadow of course..01:06
moncapitaneiceroot: tried that, didn't work to log in after I put it in shdow01:06
moncapitaneshadow*01:06
F3Speechanyone else got a bit of knowhow debugging wifi setups?01:06
jrib!ask | F3Speech01:06
ubottuF3Speech: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:06
BlueNeXuShi all01:07
adfkhere's what i've concluded. ubuntu told me there was a missing printer driver. so i downloaded it from the brother site, but my model is the dcp-7030 and i got the LPR's rpm for the dcp-7040. i deleted /etc/printcap and installed the correct rpm, but it still says "missing driver".01:08
jribadfk: have you checked the !printing factoid?01:08
adfk!printing01:08
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu01:08
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BlueNeXuSis anyone familar with a download manager called GetJet?01:08
jribBlueNeXuS: just ask your question; if someone knows the answer they will help you01:09
BlueNeXuSit's giving he issues..01:09
icerootadfk: you know that ubuntu is not using rpm?01:09
F3SpeechWhen I sudo /etc/network/inferfaces restart I get the following error ioctl[siocsiwencodeext]: invalid argument can any on help debug this? I also have a maybe related problem that my wifi adaptor will only connect after I've rebooted my router any help would also be apreciated on this.01:10
BlueNeXuSIt cane preinstalled on this ubuntu. and when i try to dowload anything, from any of my broswers it tells me to wait  until the current downlooad finishes because it can not downnload more than one file at a time with that version..  However.. it does that even if its the only one downloading.. hence. i can not download anything at all01:10
BlueNeXuSI've checked to see if it was a broswer addon and it is now.. I can not find it withing the installed software list eiteher to remove it01:11
adfkwell i installed the cups rpm successfully.01:11
BlueNeXuSand ideas?01:11
adfkcups start/running, process 372701:11
jribadfk: erm, you already had cups... how did you install the cups rpm?01:11
icerootF3Speech: that is a normal config file and not an init-script01:11
adfki installed the LPR driver instead.01:12
icerootF3Speech: also ubuntu is using upstart, which means "sudo service networking restart" instead of "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"01:12
jribBlueNeXuS: how did you install ubuntu?01:12
icerootadfk: why you are using rpms?01:12
BlueNeXuSit's installed as a vm from an .iso01:12
icerootadfk: cups is in the normal ubuntu repos01:12
adfkbecause i didn't see the .debs on the site...01:12
icerootadfk: are you sure you are using ubuntu?01:12
adfkthat i'm sure of.01:12
Freederwhats the best way to figure out what is causing a high system load? top doesn't show the culprit, its all at 0%01:13
icerootadfk: you dont have to go to websites to download software, use "sudo apt-get install packagename"01:13
icerootFreeder: even %wa?01:13
jribBlueNeXuS: ask the provider of the .iso then.  I have never heard of getjet01:13
jribFreeder: if it's all at 0% then there is no high system load01:13
F3Speechiceroot: i did mean init.d sorry, when i /etc/init.d/networking restart i get the error01:13
BlueNeXuSif i could find it to unstall it and let the broswers do their own downloading that'd be great01:14
icerootF3Speech: use the service command01:14
BlueNeXuSbut thanks jrib01:14
jribBlueNeXuS: I would not trust such an .iso.  Who knows what else is on that thing01:14
sneezersorry the off-topic but i'm struggling right now with webchat, which irc client do you guys advise me?01:14
jribsneezer: try xchat01:15
BlueNeXuShrmm.. i suppose i could try installing another download manager and let  it set to default01:15
icerootsneezer: try xchat for example, easy to use01:15
F3Speechiceroot: what command is that?01:15
jribBlueNeXuS: why don't you use the official ubuntu iso?01:15
icerootF3Speech: also ubuntu is using upstart, which means "sudo service networking restart" instead of "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"01:15
sneezerThanks, can I use it in Ubunto?01:15
jribsneezer: yes01:15
Freederjrib: uptime shows a high load.01:15
sneezerThank you, and happy new year every one ;)01:16
icerootsneezer: you will find xchat in the software center or by using "sudo apt-get install xchat"01:16
icerootFreeder: and what is a "high load"?01:16
Freedericeroot, not familiar with %wa ?01:16
Freeder801:16
icerootFreeder: how much cores?01:16
Freeder101:17
icerootFreeder: ok then 8 is high, could you paste the first lines from top?01:17
iceroot!paste | Freeder01:17
ubottuFreeder: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:17
icerootFreeder: Cpu(s):  6.3%us,  1.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 91.7%id,  0.4%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st01:17
icerootFreeder: that line is important01:17
Freederalright, give me a moment, thanks01:18
Freederbut there is no 'better' tool than top, right?01:18
icerootFreeder: and normally %wa is the reason for a high load, its the io waiting time (cpu is waiting for the hdd to deliver data)01:18
F3Speechiceroot: ran the command and got told stop: unknown instance which i guess makes sense as its not connected. then then ran the same cxommand with start and got told Failed to bring up wlan001:18
icerootF3Speech: you edited /etc/network/interfaces by hand for wlan0?01:18
Freedericeroot: where does that %wa go? I see wa listed in the top man, but no reference to a %...01:18
F3Speechiceroot: yes followed the wiki01:19
icerootF3Speech: which wiki is suggesting to edit /etc/network/interfaces to have wifi on a desktop system?01:19
WeThePeoplevlanx, what dist?01:19
F3Speechim on server01:19
WeThePeoplevlanx, oops, did you figure it out01:20
icerootF3Speech: ah ok, so a server without the network-manager way01:20
F3Speechiceroot:  yes01:20
icerootF3Speech: could you paste your /etc/network/interfaces?01:20
iceroot!paste | F3Speech01:20
ubottuF3Speech: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:20
F3Speechiceroot: will do might take awhile as it not connected to this pc or net :)01:22
synratasd01:22
phpguyI Ubuntu 12.10 and I downgraded my flash from 11.2 because it was very buggy.  So i replace libflashplayer.so like the ubuntu forum said to do and now I am hanging on reboot. I have been having no problems until I replaced that file. I have attempted recovery console and livecd and then replacing the file with the original but nothing still hangs. I have even removed quiet splash and replaced with nomodeset and there are no errors.01:23
jribphpguy: where exactly did you put the file?01:23
n0ydlol01:23
phpguy/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins01:23
jribphpguy: where exactly is it hanging?01:24
n0ydjust replacing that file would not cause it not to boot01:24
devjosh1Yeah, I don't see the connection.01:24
phpguyas soon as the splash screen comes up or when nomodeset it hangs as soon as it the blinking line comes up. That doesn't even blink.01:25
jribphpguy: recovery mode boots ok?01:25
phpguyjrib YES SIR01:25
TommehMEvery time I attempt to boot teamviewer it gives me this error and refuses to boot, http://dropfuse.com/136001:26
devjosh1I'm going to boot this 12.10 next to BackTrack5 on my Thinkpad.01:26
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phpguyjrib also tried resume still hangs with no errors just an fyi01:26
devjosh1Hmm, an SSL error.01:26
jribphpguy: what do you mean by "tried resume"?01:26
seeqwellHow can I see if my hard drive is sata, raid or ata on ubuntu please?01:27
phpguyjrib from Recovery mode01:27
devjosh1some utility not found...01:27
devjosh1very strange01:27
phpguyrecovery mode menu*01:27
jribphpguy: did you do anything else other than replace that flash file?01:27
n0ydhe had to off, before he replaced the file01:27
Slartseeqwell: tried the "disk utility" ?01:27
n0yds/of/off01:27
phpguyno I had been coding on my ftp server all day but that was remote.01:28
seeqwellthanks Slart01:28
Septimaso, i'm reading through this asus motherboard manual and come across the usb 3.0 section. it's got 4 usb 3.0 ports on the board the back panel and 1 header for usb 3.0 on forward ports. it says though, that usb 3.0 is only supported in windows due to limitations set forth by intel for the chipset ports and asmedia for the usb 3.0 controller ports; can someone shed some light on this? true or not?01:28
F3Speechiceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490404/ as requested01:28
Septimathe intel chipset in question is the Z77; and i'm mainly wondering, are those ports going to be dead when used with Ubuntu, or can they be made to work like usb 2.0?01:29
SlartSeptima: which asus motherboard is it?01:29
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SeptimaSlart: P8Z77-V LE01:29
n0ydIf it is true, its just a driver issue.01:29
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n0ydthe z77 was originally compatible with windows, but it appears it works fine with linux now01:31
SlartSeptima: I have an older asus motherboard (formula 4) and usb 3 works nicely here.. or .. I'm not getting doppler-shifted with speed.. but it seems to be working alright01:31
jribphpguy: well as others said, replacing that file certainly shouldn't have anything to do with the issue you are having now.  Have you tried booting an earlier kernel or looking for interesting things in /var/log/?01:32
Septiman0yd: did you find something on it?01:32
Septimai haven't had any luck finding anything on it01:32
n0ydSeptima, nothing you couldnt find by googling01:33
phpguyjrib I have tried booting an earlier kernel and it still hangs. So I am sure the kernel is fine. as to the logs I am looking now01:33
n0ydz77 is a pretty common chipset01:33
WeThePeopleanybody know how to edit iCall files?01:34
ezrafreehello all, i am having an issue where suddenly my ubuntu box stops booting after the message "Checking battery state" and I am seeing online that one cause may be I need to reinstall my graphics drivers. only problem is, i have intel graphics card, how can i reinstall the drivers for it?01:34
WeThePeoplei get a upgrade error01:34
n0ydphpguy, so recovery doesnt actually boot then?01:34
phpguynope I can get it to console and thats it01:34
n0ydwell, that is booting....01:34
ezrafreelspci shows this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)01:34
ezrafreedoes anyone know how to reinstall the drivers for the Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller?01:35
phpguyn0yd no not when you drop to root console in a read only system01:35
phpguyI did not mean to imply that it booted to console. I have to select drop to root console from the recovery menu.01:36
percent20can someone say something with my nick in it? am testing something.01:36
n0ydpercent20,01:36
somsip!test | percent2001:37
ubottupercent20: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )01:37
percent20sweet. thanks guys. worked like a charm :)01:37
percent20somsip: thanks for letting me know about that.01:37
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ezrafreeanyone here know how to reinstall the drivers for an intel graphics card?01:38
phpguybrb searching for something01:38
n0ydezrafree, what are you looking at online, first of all01:38
ezrafreen0yd: how do you mean?01:39
ezrafreewhat website told me it may be a graphics driver issue, you mean?01:39
n0ydyes01:39
ezrafreen0yd: ubuntuforums.org01:39
n0yd'....01:39
n0ydok great01:39
F3SpeechCan anyone else look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490404/ spot any problems while iceroot gets back, thanks.01:40
n0ydWhat..... Article01:40
ezrafreethey said because it stopped right after the "checking battery state" message that it's probably grpahics drivers because that's when the drivers are loaded next01:40
ezrafreen0yd: i'd have to search and find it, they were using nvidia drivers unlike me, one sec01:40
BluPhenix316I'm confused about the information on the new Ubuntu Phones, will we be able to use Ubuntu Mobile OS this year, or we have to wait for phones next year?01:40
n0ydezrafree, ya, i doubt that is your issue01:40
ezrafreeoh no here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185982001:40
n0yddont waste your time01:40
ezrafreen0yd: okay, any other thoughts on what i could look at it to determine the exact issue?01:41
BluPhenix316i'm still trying to figure out where i can buy a ubuntu tv01:41
ezrafreei've checked any logs i could think of but nothing yet01:41
BluPhenix316anyone know where i can get more information about Ubuntu Phones and TV?01:41
ezrafreenow i get a second error, immediately after "Checking battery state" that says ata2.00: SError: { HostIn 10B8B }01:42
ezrafreethat, i believe, is an issue with my seagate 2TB drive01:42
ezrafreenot sure if they are related though01:42
MMavipcI want text boot but gui after boot, So I see messages during boot, and at the end of boot the gui starts up. I have the grub default cmdline set to "", but I just see a blank screen now until the gui starts up01:42
ezrafreehrm I guess I may just have to try reinstalling ubuntu heh01:43
ezrafreeclearly i messed something up real good01:43
n0ydno idea01:43
kslaterugh. Well this upgrade hasn't gone well so far. Didn't intent to do a fresh install but I'm basically doing that now since one of my attempts at getting grub going again resulted in my user account being nuked.01:43
kslaterI guess I'll find out just how good backintime is at backups..01:44
kslater:-/01:44
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redderhsanyone here compiled mame before?01:48
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Slingredderhs: im sure people have, what is your real question?01:50
redderhsMy question is how can I apply the No Nag- High Score patch to the source code01:50
Phaeyx i have a question..01:51
MMavipcis there a way to have text boot but gui after boot, So I see messages during boot, and at the end of boot the gui starts up. I have the grub default cmdline set to "", but I just see a blank screen now until the gui starts up01:51
Phaeyxcan anyone tell me if ubuntu runs good on a nokia n900?01:52
Phaeyxwanna kno, does ubuntu run well on a nokia N900?01:55
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phpguyn0yd ok it is a lightdm and kdm conflict for some reason it is hanging and terminating lightdm with sigkill and that is where it is hanging. I remember installing kdm but I thought I had purged lightdm but even if I didn't there shouldn't be a conflict.01:56
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Phaeyxanybody who knowz, does ubuntu run well on a nokia N900?01:59
CyclicalRealityidk01:59
Phaeyxwho does kno?02:00
CyclicalRealitywow... loads of users... yet epicly quiet in here02:01
corvaxiaI would check a Nokia N900 developer community02:01
corvaxiaThat seems like a more localized source for your information02:01
corvaxiaIs it possible to have grub recognize three different operating systems on 3 different 128GB SSDs? Right now I am hot swapping SSDs on the top of my pc tower and I would like to put all three of them inside and just have grub choose which OS/SSD to boot at startup02:02
hellslingerhi guys, I have a question about permissions: I have an htdocs directory for apache that belongs to lampp:www, but I want it writable by my user. How do I achieve this without changing the owner of the directory?02:02
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somsiphellslinger: add yourself to www group and log back in to make the changes take affect02:03
Phaeyxyup, checking if someone's responsive there, good tip!02:03
CyclicalRealityhellslinger, i'm a noob, but i think I know the answer to your question. Add your user to the same group as lampp:www then change permissions to allow group members to write02:03
CyclicalRealityshoot, i was too slow02:04
hellslingerahh, had to log myself back in, thanks, CyclicalReality and somsip02:04
hellslingeranyone here running steam/l4d2?02:06
HowdyDoodyWhen Upgrading ubuntu, I get questions to replace or keep a file.    Like   smb.conf ?    Very subtle differences.    If I don't know for sure is there a "SAFE" answer ?02:08
Tex_NickHowdyDoody : backup your /etc/samba/smb.con file02:10
Tex_Nicksmb.conf*02:10
Tex_NickHowdyDoody : you could then replace and if needed restore the old one02:11
HowdyDoodyok - cp smb.conf smb.conf.114    good enough  or do I need to put in diff directory?02:12
Tex_NickHowdyDoody : nope ... that should work fine02:13
HowdyDoodyGreat, thanks02:13
Tex_Nickyou're welcome02:13
taofdwhere did the menu bar go in nautilus for gnome 3.6? :( how do i access my folder settings now?02:15
acovrighow do I change the default run level (/etc/inittab does not exist)02:16
jribacovrig: why do you want to?02:17
acovrigjrib: my default run level is 2 and I want 5.02:17
jribacovrig: yes, but why?02:17
dr_willissince ther really is no runlevels with upstart02:17
Slart!runlevel02:17
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.02:17
dr_willislevel 5 will be identical to 202:18
acovrig!Upstart02:18
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/02:18
acovrigthen how do I startx by default?02:18
jribacovrig: by default you have lightdm installed and it gets started automatically02:18
dr_willisacovrig:  lightdm service does that if its installed02:18
dr_willisthis is why we were asking why you wanted runlevel 5 ;)02:19
dr_willislightdm, gdm, kdm, other login managers haaandle that02:19
taofdanyone know how to access nautilus settings in gnome 3.6?02:19
jribtaofd: doesn't it have "preferences" in its menu somewhere?02:20
acovrigdr_willis: when I boot I only get a cli, I can then run startx, but how do I have this happen automatically?02:20
jribacovrig: how did you install ubuntu?02:20
Slarttaofd: open a regular nautilus window and check the global menu02:20
dr_willisacovrig:  innstall lightdm, gdm, or some other login manager02:20
dr_willisacovrig:  whis is a server install?02:21
acovrigjrib: if I remember server install, then decided to use it as a desktop as well so apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:21
jribacovrig: what ubuntu version?02:21
taofdSlart: i'm using gnome3, i think the global menu thing is a unity specific concept02:21
Slarttaofd: ah.. sorry.. missed that02:21
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dr_willistaofd:  ive seens ways to use it with gnome3/shell   but never tried it02:21
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F3Speechmaking some progress, some errors gone other appear :) wpa-supplicatnt[728]: Authentercation with aa:bb:cc:dd:ff timed out. Where should I look to debug this? thanks.02:22
taofdSlart: np, i'm honestly stumped lol i know they did a major overall in 3.6 for nautilus, but i assume there's still someway to access some of the settingsā€¦ (hopefully)02:22
dr_willisF3Speech:  sounds like the router is not responding fast enough.02:23
acovrigjrib: 12.04 (I installed it in a guess vbox,then dd'd it to a physical system02:23
jribacovrig: ubuntu-desktop should have pulled in lightdm.  Check if lightdm is installed02:23
Slarttaofd: I run gnome with gnome shell on my laptop.. but I can't really remember if I changed the preferences from somewhere else..02:23
dylanhaving a little bit of a strange problem with 12.1002:24
acovrigjrib: also, how do I reset the network interfaces (to remove the vbox ones and enable the physical ones)02:24
alcaprawnwhat do i need to enable for apache2 to work with .cgi/php02:24
dylanWhen I plug in my headphones, the option appears in sound settings, but no sound is played02:24
taofdSlart: are you using the built in gnome-shell or the one from the gnome ppa?02:24
acovrigjrib: apt-get says lighted is the newest version.02:25
Slarttaofd: on that computer I'm running archlinux with, I suppose, the regular/standard gnome shell02:25
jribacovrig: so now you should figure out why it doesn't start.  Does it start ok if you run "sudo service lightdm start"?02:25
acovrigjrib: yes02:26
jaehunharoo~02:26
dr_willisacovrig:  check /etc/default/grub to be sure you are not using 'text' mode also02:27
acovrigjrib: should I run update-rc.d?02:27
jribacovrig: no, update-rc.d wouldn't do much02:27
dylanCan anyone help me with my sound settings?  My headphones appear in sound settings, but no noise comes out of them02:27
jaehunacovrig: What's problem?02:27
jaehun<dylan>:Setting to alas driver? apt-get install alsa*02:28
dr_willisapt-get with wildcards can get ... ozerzelous sin what it installs02:29
taofdSlart: this is what the new nautilus looks like in gnome 3.6 http://worldofgnome.org/uploads/2012/10/nautilus-700x437.png02:29
Slarttaofd: ah.. yes, now I remember.. you click on the Files icon in the top bar.. or right click..02:29
Slarttaofd: the one next to Activities02:30
dylanjaehun: http://pastebin.com/prhdmiE702:30
jaehundylan : u can not install libasound202:30
taofdSlart: OH! Thanks, i completely missed itā€¦ i'm on a mac so two finger touch is kind of wonky in virtualbox02:30
jaehuni think apt-get install alsa-oss only installing to u02:31
Slarttaofd: I just remembered that I had the same problem when I installed it.. took me a while to find it as well02:31
dylanjaehun: what does that mean?  It's a pretty fresh install02:31
jaehunI think?.02:31
dylanjaehun: So what do I do for a solution?02:31
jaehun'apt-get install libesd0 libasound2 alsa-oss'02:32
jaehunalas application using to sound for ur headphone02:32
dylanjaehun: okay. it's running02:32
dylanjaehun: finished.  Now what, reboot?02:32
jaehundylan : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting <--02:33
jaehunlook at that plz.. :)02:33
haryvUbunto is now #1 article in CNN News pulse. I remember long time ago, I used to work at Microsoft in the Windows dev team, and Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer came to the lunch meeting and gave there big pitch about the release of windows 2000. One of the tings Bill or Steve said "Linux is not a threat" I think I was the only one shaking my head :)02:34
haryvhttp://money.cnn.com/2013/01/02/technology/mobile/ubuntu-smartphone-linux/02:35
jribharyv: that's great, but please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic :)02:35
acovrigjaehun: aside from booting into cli (lightdm not starting), how do I purge old network interfaces and detect new ones?02:35
haryvNp :)02:35
dr_willisill belive it when i can get my hands on one....02:35
Xabster~amazon02:35
XabsterCould someone trigger the bot response for amazon ads?02:36
jrib!adlens02:36
dr_willisacovrig:  shouldent be any need to,02:36
ubottuIf you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ02:36
dr_willisacovrig:  ifconfig should list them all02:36
evo-int-anodoes anyone want to run to the store for me and pick up some nose spray? jw02:36
jaehunacovrig,  hmm? r u wanna new network dhcp?02:36
acovrigdr_willis: it gets annoying to wait 60 seconds for network configuration on every boot though...02:36
evo-int-anoapt-get nosespray...02:37
acovrigjaehun: I installed in a xbox, then dd to a physical drive, so theres a new set of interfaces02:37
dr_willisacovrig:  sounds like you should have just done a clean install instead of  converting aa vbox image02:37
charlie__When Ubuntu does an automatic update, my box doesn't boot in the new kernel.The kernel that works is -23, and the 12.04 LTS updates are up to -35! I'm missing something...02:37
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jaehuncheck the /etc/network/interface file.02:37
dr_willisacovrig:  you have removed any vbox guest addations?02:37
XabsterWho's Mark Shuttleworth and why are people listening to such a bullshit blog?02:37
jaehuncat /etc/network/interface02:37
acovrigdr_willis: yea, but I did a vbox install while waiting for the physical parts to arrive. I didn't install the vbox add ons.02:38
jaehunacevrig : If u not insert dhcp? u need edit interface file.02:38
nearsthi ubuntu fan02:38
OerHeksXabter nice attitude02:39
dr_willisacovrig:  from what ive seen so far- sounds like its a very wonky install.02:39
jaehunacovrig, plz.. show to /etc/network/interfaces file.02:39
jaehunIf u waana dhcp? blow example? same to make it.02:39
jaehunauto eth002:39
jaehuniface eth0 inet dhcp02:39
XabsterOerHeks: thanks..?02:39
acovrigjaehun: /etc/network/interfaces has no reference to virbr0, but ifconfig shows it02:39
jaehunhm....02:40
jaehunIt's virtual box?02:40
dr_willisvirbr0 is if you have vbox server installed i thought..02:40
OerHeksXabster, Mark Shuttleworth is the fouder of canonical/ubuntu02:40
jaehunacovrig, I think? u check this web page.02:40
jaehunhttp://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking02:40
Xabsterokay, what about the 2nd part of the question?02:40
dr_willisi think i got a virbr0 here and this setup has never been  in a vbox. but it runs vbox02:40
acovrigdr_willis: its if u use the host-only interface. I heard something about /etc/udev/rules/.d, is there something about that?02:41
nearstwhy my ipw2200 is eth102:41
jaehunacovrig, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/libvirt.html02:41
jaehuncheck it plz.. acovrig02:41
dr_willisacovrig:  must be somthing ive never used then02:41
dr_willisnearst:  what do you expect it to be?02:41
acovrigwhere does ifconfig get it's list of interfaces?02:42
charlie__When Ubuntu does an automatic update, my box doesn't boot in the new kernel.The kernel that works is -23, and the 12.04 LTS updates are up to -35! I'm missing something...02:42
jaehunacovrig, look at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#bridging02:42
jaehunu need bridge-utils02:42
nearstdr_willis, just wonder. hehe02:42
jaehunhmm? Z?z?z..02:42
dr_willisnearst:  wlan, or eth0 or other names. depends on the driver the wifi device is using02:43
jaehun????? ?? ?????02:43
Slartgah.. sage.. after 194 minutes of compiling it just errors out with a "error 1"02:43
jribSlart: why are you compiling :)02:43
jaehunSlart,  wow..02:43
nearstdr_willis, i prefer wlan1, bcoz my rt2800usb is wlan002:43
acovrigjaehun: I don't need to bridge interfaces, just 'uninstall' old ones and 'install' new ones02:43
nearstSlart, try with make -j402:44
dr_willisnearst:  different drivers  can use different names02:44
F3Speechdr_willis: sorry missed your comment before, turned off my qos to might be affecting it but while there got me thinking many duel banding isnt supported? so changed it back to 20Hz and testing now, thanks for reply02:44
nearstdr_willis, yeah. maybe.02:44
acovrigrunning /etc/init.d/networking restart is taking a while...02:44
dr_willisi dont recall a usb wifi dongle ever using  eth*02:44
jaehunyes...02:44
Slartjrib: because sage is a weird package.. they end up packaging everything.. so it's a huuge download every time they do an update.. it's actually easier to just update the source and just recompile the bits that changed.. when the compiling part works, that is =)02:44
dr_willisinternal wifi cards i have seen use eth*02:44
jaehunacovrig,  and?02:44
Slartnearst: -j 4 ... will try02:44
jaehunnothing?02:44
jribSlart: I just use the binaries02:45
Slartnearst: or.. -j4, sorry02:45
nearstSlart, -j4 just fine. depends on your processor core02:45
Slartjrib: mm.. I blame archlinux.. I have to keep versions matched with my work-laptop02:45
acovrigjaehun: why is it taking so long to restart networking?02:45
F3Speechacovrig: i have the same problem, but until im putting it down to have no eth0 connected?02:45
jaehunacovrig, I think? ur networks problem.. dhcp...02:46
jaehunCheck the gateway...02:46
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jaehunI will going launch? Have a good time.s..  :)02:46
acovrigF3Speech: I have a proper eth0, I get a DHCP address ok and can connect to the internet, however wlan0 doesn't show up in ifconfig, but virbr0 does and shouldn't02:46
nearstroute -n02:46
acovrigcan I have a verbose boot, yet have lightdm start?02:47
nearstacovrig, edit to verbose at grub02:48
acovrigand why does it hang at configuring network interfaces, then waiting 60 secs for network configuration on boot?02:49
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frontiereverytime I install software by apt-get, it seems that apt-get cannot resolve dependencies, it drives me crazy after installing ubuntu 12.10, why?02:51
jribfrontier: pastebin what you actually do and what actually happens02:52
F3Speechip addr02:52
nearstfrontier, try apt-get install --fix-missing02:52
F3Speechoopps :)02:52
frontierI tried it, but not work02:52
nearstfrontier, try look the problem at /var/log/term.log02:53
F3Speechwlan0: no IPv6 routers present - id have have to force IPv4? or should it default to IPv4 if IPv6 fails02:54
frontierterm.log: No such file or directory02:54
nearstfrontier, sorry, /var/log/apt/term.log02:55
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frontiertoo many logs, then what should i do?02:56
nearstlook for the problem at dependencies :-|02:57
frontieroh, yeah, i found it, it seems that that the dependencies cannot be downloaded, error occoured when downloading:40402:58
kuhrectcan anyone help me with something02:59
Xabsterhehe02:59
Tex_Nick kuhrect : ask your question02:59
nearstouch02:59
Xabstertalk about being vague02:59
hellslingerwhat happened to "blur windows" in compizconfig-settings-manager03:00
dr_willistheses extra compiz plugins in the repos hell03:00
nearstmaybe your "blur" setting at compiz03:00
frontiershould i change something in the sources.list file?03:00
dr_willistheses extra compiz plugins in the repos hellslinger03:00
kuhrecti installed something like this "sudo apt-get -y install opera"03:01
kuhrectwhere do i find it03:01
dr_williskuhrect:  using unity you can tap the super key to get to the dasy then type in 'opera'03:01
dr_willisdash ;)03:01
dr_willisjust 'op'  may show it...03:02
nearstwhereis opera03:02
dr_willisor just run it from a terminal03:02
Tex_Nickhellslinger : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins03:02
goddardis their an Ubuntu nvidia head monitor status icon like in gnome shell?03:02
goddardheat*03:02
hellslingerhaha, there we go, I thought I had lost my mind, couldn't find the plugins03:03
dr_willisgoddard:  theres a lot of  extra indicator-applete for unity out there, askubuntu.com may have a list03:03
REX_746Hello! I'm a newbie. sorry for the novel of a question. does anyone have a solution?-  I have a newly custom-built cpu that I successfully loaded with Ubuntu 12.10 and upgraded to the latest kernel. The OS works great, no issues whatsoever with booting or connecting with the wireless network. However, I am still needing to set up the drivers for some of the components.03:03
REX_746 It has an ASUS P8z77-V PRO motherboard installed and I am trying to utilize the Setup.exe from the MB Support CD in order to access the exclusive features of the MB. Of course, this motherboard/Setup is only ā€œWindows 7 readyā€. I have downloaded the ā€œWine Windows Program Loaderā€ which has helped me to access some files on the MB Support CD, but the Setup.exe is still having error.03:03
REX_746 By clicking on the Setup.exe (or dragging into the Terminal and hitting Enter) an error message comes up:03:03
REX_746 -AUSUHWIO.DLL-  ! :  ā€œCan't Open Kernel Mode Driver ASUSHWIO.sysā€03:03
REX_746 Clicking 'OK' :03:03
FloodBot1REX_746: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:03
nearst!pastebin03:04
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:04
goddarddr_willis: doing a search doesn't give me any results03:04
dr_willisREX_746:  using wine to install special mb drivers may not work very well03:04
kuhrecthow can you see all installed programs?03:05
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dr_willisgoddard:  try opera or Opera from the terminal. or use the dash search filters/catagories03:05
nearstim not use unity :( , aww03:05
Tex_Nickkuhrect : use the software center ... click on Installed at top of window03:07
XabsterDidn't there use to be a skype in the repos?03:07
dr_willis!skype03:07
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga03:07
Xabster!ekiga03:07
ubottuekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga03:07
dr_willisits in the pertners repo? i forget03:07
archcan someone help me03:07
dr_willisarch:  Details needed.03:08
Tex_Nickarch : ask your question03:08
archok can someone make an account here http://not-so-mini.minitroopers.com/03:08
archthanks03:08
dr_willisand how is that ubuntu support related?03:09
archit isnt03:09
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TazyUbuntu 10.10 Maverick PORTS archive? Where?03:10
dylank03:11
dylanso03:11
dr_willisports?03:11
dylanbooted up the live CD03:11
dylanand the headphones work perfectly03:11
dylanso03:11
goddarddr_willis: sorry man i dont know what you mean03:11
dylanwrong channel03:11
dylanmy bad03:11
dr_willisgoddard:  about what? ;)03:11
CoreyBRi'm with scroll problem here in ubuntu, can anyone help me?03:12
Tazydr_willis, ubuntu ports. i'm using a i.MX515 netbook.03:13
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dylanHey, i'm back03:15
goddarddr_willis: trying to find a nvidia heat monitor applet03:15
acovrighow do I 'remove' a network interface so that it doesn't show up in ifconfig or in /etc/init.d/networking restart03:15
dylanI just booted up my liveCD to test the audio03:15
dylanand my headphones work on the liveCD03:15
dylanso now what should I do?03:16
dylanis there anyway to just un-install ALL of the audio stuff and re-install it?03:16
HeKToNguys I have a dekstop Pc and a lap top03:16
HeKToNwhen connecting samba03:16
HeKToNand trying to play some movies from my desktop it says something about smb protocol...03:16
HeKToNI click on search but nothung hapens03:17
Tex_NickHeKToN : that is referring to samba03:17
HeKToNso what can i do about it ?03:17
HeKToNis there a channel ?03:17
Tazyso where did the old ubuntu ports got moved to? for maverick / 10.10 / used to be http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/03:18
Tex_Nick!samba | HeKToN03:18
ubottuHeKToN: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.03:18
HeKToNThanks  :003:18
Tex_NickHeKToN : #samba03:18
dr_willisgoddard:  the askubuntu.com site had a list of 3rd party indicator-applets i belive there were some nvidia ones03:20
Tex_NickHeKToN : it might also be referring to "Server Message Block"03:21
hellslingerdr_willis, installing those packages didn't install blur windows, any ideas?03:21
dr_willishellslinger:  nope.  could ask in #compiz   could be the plugin has been removed/renamed03:22
HeKToNhmm03:22
hellslingerdr_willis, , thank you03:22
HeKToNthat makes a sense03:22
HeKToNI`ll do some research now03:23
HeKToNthanks a lot :)03:23
Tex_NickHeKToN : samba employs SMB to implement network shares03:24
F3Speechwhats the best command to shutdown a server with? halt, shoutdown, poweroff?03:25
kslatergrrr. Update failed to run initramfs-tools03:26
TazyF3Speech, shutdown -h number-time03:26
dylanHaving trouble with my headphones in 12.10.  The speakers work.  But the headphone jack doesn't.  I've ruled out it being a hardware problem.  What can I do?A03:28
nearstdylan, buy a new one?03:29
dylannearst: buy a new what. compuer?!?!03:29
dylancomputer*03:29
dylanMy headphones work, and the jack works.  It's a software issue03:30
Tazydylan, define whats not working. mic output itself? did you check in terminal with alsamixer and see it in pavucontrol?03:30
nearstoic. try set using alsa-mixer?03:30
dylanTazy: Nothing is muted in alsamixer, I tried setting it with alsa.  what is pavucontrol?03:30
Tazypulse audio control panel03:31
dylanHow do I access that?03:31
nearstpavucontrol in terminal03:31
Tazyprobably install it first?03:31
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dylannot installed, let me install it03:31
dylanTazy: Okay, it's installed and open03:32
kslateron an upgrade initramfs-tools failed to configure as detailed in this launchpad bug:03:32
kslater   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/82958103:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 829581 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "package initramfs-tools 0.99ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:32
kslatercan I just re-run the configuration step manually? I suspect it was because the /boot partition ran short of space.03:33
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Tazydylan, check the input setting there, maybe switch inputs once back and forth also in alsamixer you need to unmute maybe input and something.. audio is messy03:33
dylanwhy am I playing with inputs?03:34
Tazydylan, dident you said mic input is not working? o.o03:35
dylanTazy: no, headphone output is not working03:36
Tazydylan, duh... so its showing up as devices tough in pavucontrol?03:36
dylanyes03:36
dylanI know the jack works03:37
dylanI tested it on a LiveCD 5 minutes ago03:37
Tazydylan, then it should be as simple to just change uhm default device or for a single program to send to headphones/device03:37
dylannone of that is working03:37
dylanit wasworking a few days ago03:39
alex285how I can delete from terminal a ${folder} ?03:39
alex285and basically what are such folders?03:39
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dr_willisalex285:   rm 'specialnames'03:40
dr_willisnote the single quotes03:40
somsipalex285: rmdir folder (if empty) or rm -rf folder (if has contents you want to delete, but be careful as not reversable)03:40
F3Speechthanks Tazy , whats the differance between shutdown -H and -P ?03:40
somsipalex285: oh - like with spaces in the name?03:40
dr_willisive never seen a folder named   ${somthing}  befor... sounds like a bash script messed up03:41
alex285dr_willis, that didnt remove it03:41
Tazydylan just messing around with those settings in both apps might fix it somehow, i had my soundcard to work after i muted and unmuted it03:41
dr_williswhats the exact name?03:41
dr_willisand the exact command you used03:41
Tazyalex285, it might be possible to rm *blabla* instead of $blabla$ (use with caution)03:41
alex285dr_willis, ${prefix}03:41
dfreyIs there a known problem with sound cards right now?  I just rebooted my computer (a couple times) and my sound doesn't work anymore03:41
alex285thats is the exactly name03:42
OerHeksF3Speech,  -H     Requests that the system be halted after it has been brought down and   -P     Requests that the system be powered off after it has been brought down ( see man shutdown)03:42
dr_willisthat a file or directory?03:42
dylanerm, the puslseaudo volume control has a little bar in the settings that shows you how loud te sound that is playing is.  that bar moves when stuff is playing03:42
alex285Tazy, thanx that did the trick!03:42
alex285dr_willis, was a directory03:43
dr_willistab completion  might escape things also03:43
F3SpeechOerHeks: Thats what I read but im unclear as to the difference of hald and power off, as i thought halt did power off?03:43
OerHeksF3Speech, nope, halt keeps the system on.03:44
TazyF3Speech, shutdown --help  might give more info03:44
F3SpeechOerHeks: can you still ssh in etc after the system is halted i would assume all services have been stopped03:44
dylanTazy: Just checked everything, nothing is muted or anything.  I even toggled all the settings once or twice03:45
F3SpeechOerHeks: im thining what would you want to halt and not reboot or shutdown?03:45
acovrigI think my boot hangs at waiting for network configuration because it is trying to bring up an interface that doesn't exist, how do I fix this?03:45
OerHeksF3Speech, halt was used before ACPI (which today will turn off the power for you)*. It would halt the system and then print a message to the effect of "it's ok to power off now"03:47
dr_willisacovrig:  or its an ipv6 issue. ;) it always gets blamed03:47
kslaterbefore I decide to reboot (after having no success at all today with grub and booting), is there a way I can check to see if all of the packages the upgrade tried to install, have been installed without issue?03:47
F3SpeechOerHeks:  ahhhhhhhhh, tyvm, that make alot of sense :)03:47
kslaterI know it barfed on initramfs-tools before03:47
kslatermaybe a way to list the installation status of all packages?03:48
devnull_hello03:49
F3Speechdr_willis: jfyi the problems i had with my wifi i believe was due to missing wpa_supplicant.conf and a small edit to my interfaces file to point to it outlined here http://blinker.net/2010/06/20/mac-mini-g4-homeserver-with-ubuntu-linux-10-04-wpa2/ but thank you for your help tonight.03:50
kslaterthis indicates that these two packages are installed properly?03:50
kslaterkslater@kslater-laptop:/tmp$ dpkg --get-selections initramfs-*03:50
kslaterinitramfs-toolsinstall03:50
kslaterinitramfs-tools-bininstall03:50
FloodBot1kslater: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:50
devnull_i have a new hp dv6-7013cl and i can't get my built in subwoofer to work .... i have snd-hda-intel loaded ... have tried different model= variables ... i can virtually get 6 channels but i still have no subwoofer03:50
devnull_i have already googled the crap out of this for about 20 hours03:50
Tazydylan, you can still google for ppl with similar issue, i myself never had a usb headset. tough it might be crazy but there should be a .pulse folder in ~/  it fixed for me some issues as i deleted it (probably you want to just move this folder, and restart pulse / pkill pulse)03:50
acovrigdr_willis: I removed everything but lo in /etc/network/interfaces and now it works fine, but I still don't like virbr0 in ifconfig, yet if I ifconfig virbr0 down, it disappears, why is it up to begin with (and how do I stop that)?03:51
devnull_wondering if anyone has any ideas03:51
Tazydevnull_, similar issue with X-Fi here. you can google jackd with pulseaudio ubuntu. and then loop an input via qjackctrl to subwoofer. (i suspect a ubuntu bug)03:53
devnull_tazy .. that is an interesting way to do it ... i will check it out ... i think there is definately a bug03:54
dylanTazy: I'm not seeing a .pulse folder03:54
devnull_damn beats audio03:54
Tazydylan, folders with .at the beginning are hidden (prolly ctrl +h nows em)03:55
dylanidn't work03:55
dylandidn't*03:55
Tazydevnull_, if you have subwoofer after switching speakers on the same music track then its a bug.03:56
dylanTazy: cntrl+h did nothing03:56
devnull_tazy .. i have no subwoofer at all atm  ... im wondering if the sub is like an internal usb or something03:57
dylanfound it03:57
Tazydylan, terminal: mv ~/.pulse ~/.pulse-old  (reverse to restore...)03:57
dylanTazy: did nothing03:58
Tazydevnull_, anyhow you get better sound via jack and pulseaudio jack sink ;D plus you can use IDJC03:58
machicolaanyone happen to know if there is a way that I can make 'k' & 'j' my up and down arrows in Ubuntus X windows03:58
machicolai mean, to do the same thing the up and down arrows do... scroll up or down03:59
Tazydylan if you killed pulseaudio it should restart and recreate the folder. if the headset wont work then its some other bug..03:59
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dylanTazy: I'm getting off.  I'll take a look tomorrow.  Thank you very much for your help03:59
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Project2501was going to ask how to view tx/rx for ip add similar to ifconfig but i found the ip -s link command04:01
Project2501<304:01
KyleYankanHey #ubuntu  - What filesystem is prefferred for a SSD? ext4?04:07
dr_willisKyleYankan:  ext4 ads far as i know04:07
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TazyJFS supports with kernel 3.7 also SDD's04:07
Tazyssd* to correct myself04:08
dr_willisat least you dident say stds ;)04:09
Tazydr_willis, thats why you gotta wear them latex all the time.04:09
dr_willisthe ways ssd's are improveing. im not sure much tweaking of them is neven needed these days04:10
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Tazydr_willis,  there are some SSD's that perform only with NTFS kinda good due some on hardware software is doing some of the work and might screw with linux filesystems.04:11
dr_willisi need bigger ssds ;)04:11
limachi it appears i have two version of openCV installed which is causing compilation problems due to conflicts. I have 2.3.1 and 2.4.3 and just wanna use the 2.4.3. Anyone know of an easy fix to this?04:12
Jkessleri have a friend who needs to connect to his secured wireless network in recovery mode because his xorg.conf is messed up.  i can't find a good set of commands to work.  we know can see his essid but we can't get  ...   iwconfig wlan0 essid HisNetwork HisKey       -- to work.  can't find syntax that works.  any ideas?  thanks04:14
TazyJkessler, uhh "nmcli"04:14
devnull_hey tazy ... im having some issues finding the resources for what you said to do with jack04:15
Tazydevnull_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875378 and http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/JACK04:18
devnull_thanks tazy04:18
MattheHello,04:18
MattheI need some information about the difference between the latest version, and the older versions.04:19
Tazydevnull_, probably just requires to change /etc/pulse/default.pa and install qjackctrl (with deps)04:19
MattheSo, can someone send me like, a link or something, with the information?04:21
jrib!notes | Matthe04:21
ubottuMatthe: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) release notes can be found here http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.1004:21
jribMatthe: in general, you should either go with the latest release (12.10) or with the latest LTS release (12.04).  The advantage of the LTS release is that it is supported for 5 years instead of the usual 18 months.  But 12.10 has newer features and newer software04:22
OerHeksand 12.04 LTS >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes04:22
TazyLTS is a better choice. time wise.04:22
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MattheWell, I'm working on a project for school, and I need to have the exact information about the difference between, 12.10 and the rest.04:23
jribMatthe: well, read the release notes.  Depending on how detailed you actually want to be, then you can diff the two images...04:24
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MattheThe links helped, thanks (:04:24
MattheI'll read it, and I'll come back for further questions.04:25
Tazyschool project... here they still want them to learn with Win 9804:25
MattheHaha.04:25
davidhurwichhello04:26
davidhurwichcan i ask a tech support question>04:26
davidhurwich?04:26
ryzzanmy wifi connection keep failing all the time under ubuntu 12.04... any tip?04:27
OerHekshi davidhurwich, just ask :-)04:27
ryzzan?04:27
davidhurwichi'm running Ubuntu 12-04. my wifi never seems to show up. It used to appear under earlier versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas?04:27
TazyPC's with EFI bios won't have a issue with GRUB2/syslinux?04:28
ryzzanmine shows... but it fails after some time04:28
kslaterok, time to bite the bullet and try a reboot. Then one more upgrade to get to 12.04.1 LTS.04:28
juniourchrome is not godd forubuntu04:30
zabomberdavidhuriwch: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196663304:30
dr_willischrome works fine  here.04:30
deltabryzzan: are there any log entries that relate to it?04:30
kslaterI've had it absolutely crash the desktop before04:30
kslatermaybe newer Ubuntu plays better with it?04:31
dr_willisive seen flash crash the internet. ;)04:31
juniour dr_willis its dosent work fine here04:31
dr_willisok just my home pc...04:31
juniour3:)04:31
kslateryeah, flash probably behind a lot of crashing04:32
kslatera flash crash04:32
dr_willisi rarely see people in here with chrome issues...   flash issues..  lots of them04:32
juniour dr_willis ya you right04:32
HeKToNdr_willis what do you mean by flash issues ?04:32
HeKToNmy youtube is kind of laggy while the menus are visible04:33
HeKToNlike the timeline ?04:33
juniourchrome has flsh issue04:33
ryzzandeltab, not really... what log file u think i should take a look in this case/04:33
HeKToNim on firefox but ..04:33
akheelhey guys, I'm running on an AMD graphics card. Any way to install drivers to make gnome-shell run more smoothly? animation is really choppy right now04:33
juniourfirefox rocks04:33
dr_willisHeKToN:  smurfy looking people, no sound, crashes, not detected..    webcams not working with it. wrong monitors and fullscreen issues....04:33
ryzzandeltab, i receive no warning or anything... the conenction simply fails... like the wifi is not connected to the internet04:33
HeKToNso I was basically scared that my lap top is crap04:34
dr_willisthose are the common flash issues04:34
HeKToNbut now you give me the feeling that it is the flash04:34
HeKToNotherwise the movies are excellent04:34
dr_willisid bet its flash the issue.04:34
dr_willisuse a flash downloader, or replacer plugin ;)04:34
Muphridjust dont use flash whenever possible04:34
TazySmurf ppl are best issue and NVRM issues even more.04:34
dr_willisor both04:34
akheelI'm on 12.10 by the way04:35
Muphridakheel: what gpu model?04:35
HeKToNcan you give me exact command or whatever how to do that ?04:35
HeKToNplaese04:35
juniour1 dr_willis04:36
MuphridHeKToN do what?04:36
Tazyspeaking of, anyone knows whats NVRM Xid ? nvidia related but maybe RAM itself? instead of gfx04:36
HeKToNmurphid : use a flash downloader, or replacer plugin ;04:36
* kslater needs to find a proper driver for the sound hardware in his Thinkpad t61p.04:37
davidhurwichHello, kind of a newbie here. I need some help with my wifi. I know how use terminal, but I'm not super tech knowledgable. can someone help me. My wifi network has not worked since upgrading to ubuntu 12-04. Any help would be most appreciated04:37
MuphridHeKToN: go to userscripts.org and search for viewtube04:37
Muphridthat is for videos04:37
HeKToNthanks ;)04:37
Muphridit has a downloader too04:37
akheelmuphrid: how do I check?04:37
juniour1davidhurwich you getting the signal04:37
davidhurwichi used to get the signal. my network doesn't appear now04:38
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Tazydavidhurwich, your network is set to hidden?04:38
davidhurwichi thought i've installed the necessary drivers for my wireless card04:38
Muphridakheel: lspci -v | grep -A 10 radeon04:39
davidhurwichno, my wife's macbook is picking it up fine04:39
Muphridor you could use HardInfo for a gui04:39
juniourdavidhurwich connect via lan upgrade to additional drivers04:39
davidhurwichwhere do i find out which extra drivers i need?04:39
Muphriddavidhurwich: search for "software sources" app04:40
Tazylsmod to see if the driver is even loaded..?04:40
juniourdavidhurwich additional drivers type in search in unity04:40
akheelMuphrid: Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 990204:40
Muphridthat is audio04:40
davidhurwichwould i findt he software sources app in the Ubuntu Software Center?04:41
akheelI see PCI bridge, but no graphics there04:41
Muphridi think lspci alone will say, i dont know why i said -v04:41
usr13davidhurwich: jockey-gtk04:41
juniourdavidhurwich just install the additional driver your issue will besolved04:41
Muphridakheel: like this: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)04:42
davidhurwichbut where do i find it?04:42
davidhurwichthats what I'm not sure about04:42
usr13davidhurwich: jockey-gtk04:42
Emanonusr13: Stop being vague.04:42
juniourdavidhurwich click on dash home and type04:42
Emanondavidhurwich: just hit the windows key and type source04:42
akheelMuphrid: I don't see a display controller there04:43
juniourdavidhurwich window key and type additional drivers04:43
akheelIs it possible it is not detecting it? I had to boot with nomodeset04:43
davidhurwichunder Broadcom STA wireless Driver it says it is activated and currently in use04:43
akheelI'm running a Pavilion g604:43
OerHeksEmanon, jockey-gtk is the driver tool in ubuntu04:43
Muphridakheel: install hardinfo then04:43
wanfuakheel, what exact model of the g6?04:43
davidhurwichwhat should i do now?04:43
akheelwanfu: g6-2123us04:44
EmanonI'm aware OerHeks but no one was giving the poor guy complete instructions.04:44
juniourdavidhurwich u sure its activated04:44
davidhurwichthe dialogue box says it is04:44
EmanonThey were giving data without context.04:44
juniourif not click on activate04:44
MuphridAMD Radeon HD 7520G04:44
Muphridok that is your card04:44
juniouryou seegreen button04:44
Emanondavidhurwich: Check if the wifi card has been deactivated via a hardware switch or keyboard hotkey.04:45
usr13davidhurwich: Run:  jockey-gtk    Alt-F2   or from terminal window.04:45
akheelany idea how to install a driver that doesn't give me 8 FPS on basic window operation?04:45
akheelI'm spoiled with nvidia drivers so this one is certainly new04:45
ripthejackerhow do i add google repos to software sources?04:46
davidhurwichrunning jockey-gtk says that broadcast STA wireless driver is installed04:46
dr_willisripthejacker:  i recall when i installlled the google-chrome.deb it added them04:46
davidhurwichand it lists BCM versions04:46
Emanonakheel: I'm not sure if you're getting display issues but I've noticed my rated frame rate is quite a bit lower than my observed framerate when using Ubuntu and I think it is due to the compositioning window manager rather than poor driver support ymmv though.04:46
davidhurwichand ideas?04:46
usr13davidhurwich: You have a wireless card that you need to use?04:47
juniourdavidhurwich update and upgrade and restart pc04:47
Tazydavidhurwich, as a last resort you could replace networkmanager with wicd04:47
juniourdavidhurwich sudo aptget update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:47
davidhurwichupdate what? The dialogue box says the wireless driver is instaled04:47
juniourdavidhurwich sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:48
akheelEmanon: I can barely view Youtube videos as well, so I know it's a graphics issue04:48
akheelthe video skips every half second so I barely see animation04:48
ripthejackerdr_willis, i get this error when i try to install chrome04:48
ripthejackerhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/203510804:48
EmanonOk, as you were then I just noticed that on my system.04:48
Hebbeslooking for help installing Ubuntu 12.10 on my Toshiba Satellite C855D-S520904:48
Hebbesinstall hangs during the Ubuntu load screen04:49
akheelAhh ok. I'm doing this for a friend of mine and I realized the lack of framerate. I think I've got everything else squared away04:49
ripthejackerHebbes, you're installing from a cd or usb drive?04:49
Hebbescan anyone help me?04:49
dr_willisripthejacker:  id hit up google with that exact error message. seems the .deb is confused to me04:50
EmanonWhen I run an fps counter on Compiz I get an abysmally low rated fps but everything seems snappy from my perspective so I was just wondering if there was possibly some disparity. If you are getting actually bad graphical performance then that is a different story entirely.04:50
HebbesWubi DVD and liveUSB all do the same thing04:50
ripthejackerdr_willis, so can you tell me the google repos url04:50
ripthejackeri,m using quantal04:50
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dr_willisripthejacker:  im on my phone.. so cant look at mine.04:51
ripthejackerdr_willis, ok thanks04:51
Hebbesripthejacker Wubi DVD and liveUSB all do the same thing04:51
dr_willisHebbes:  whats your system specs and video chipset?04:51
ripthejackerHebbes, yes i know and i dont know its the specific reason but my install used to fail from cd and i tried from usb and it worked the first time04:52
SailorMoonif i choose to use pre-release updates, if they are buggy, do they get fixexd?04:53
Hebbesrapthejacker none of the installs work,04:53
Emanonhttp://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free and the key command is wget -q -O -- https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add - ripthejacker04:53
davidhurwichi ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and rebooted. Networks are still not showing up. Any suggestions?04:54
Hebbesdr_willis, processor is and AMD A6-4400M APU with Radeon HD Graphics04:54
Hebbes2.7 GHz with 4 GB ram04:54
HeKToNlol04:54
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davidhurwichWould configuring VPN help?04:57
Guest27183Hello everyone. =)04:57
Guest27183dr_willis: it's ivotkl here, somehow I cannot change nickcname04:57
Guest27183*nickname04:58
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juniourdavidhurwich check if wiifi is dissabled via any or button etc...04:59
Tex_NickGuest27183 : /nick newNick04:59
davidhurwichno, wifi is turned on04:59
davidhurwichshould i configure VPN, would that help. I must admit i don't know what that means04:59
kslaterVPN is Virtual Private Networking05:00
kslaterit rides on top of a network connection05:00
kslaterdoesn't really provide one per se05:00
Guest27183Tex_Nick: I know, but it won't let me. I'm ivotkl on ubuntu forums and here. Anyway, I went to xchat as appropriate channel would be that.05:00
davidhurwichi see05:00
davidhurwichany other suggestions that might help? Anything i can run via terminal to check?05:01
davidhurwichis there a way of adding my network from the edit connection>wireless section?05:01
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juniour davidhurwich the issue is that you r not getting signal05:02
Tex_NickGuest27183 : looks like ... ivotkl :Nickname is already in use.05:02
kslatercan someone /kick ivotkl?05:03
ivotklwhy?05:03
juniour davidhurwich if no signal nothin congiguration works05:03
ivotklkslater: what did I do?05:03
kslaternothting05:03
kslaterwasn't Guest27183 asserting that he's ivotkl05:03
kslater?05:03
ivotklOh, to help me with my nick issue.05:03
juniourso first we have to figure out this signal problem so you get the signal05:03
ivotklNo, I was ivotkl and Guest. apparently there were 2 sessions logged.05:04
davidhurwichno, if i use my wife's macbook i get the signal no problem05:04
devnull_well if he is he can have the server ident him05:04
ivotkl!identify05:04
ubottuYou can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, as a typo will give away your password. If that happens, identify and then type Ā« /msg NickServ set password <new-password> Ā» in the server tab as soon as possible.05:04
kslater!NickServ05:04
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type Ā« /nick <nickname> Ā» to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode05:04
troophello, it is not problem but my boot screen ( purple screen )  has gone after nvidia installation. and now i see text05:05
HeKToN!topic05:05
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:05
ivotklThere I've registered nick. XD05:05
HeKToN!help05:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:05
HeKToN!patience05:05
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:05
liamliam!patience05:06
davidhurwichso i can wifi signal in the room, just not on my laptop running ubuntu05:06
juniour davidhurwich i know05:06
devnull_davidhurwich, your wifi isn't recognized in ubuntu ?05:06
HeKToN!05:06
kslaterdoes Ubuntu have wireless-tools?05:07
juniouryou have wifi but you are not getting signal on laptop05:07
devnull_kslater, what do you need to do05:07
kslatercouldn't he use iwscan or similar to see if he's got a working interface?05:07
davidhurwichUbuntu 12-04 cane find my wireless network - devnull_05:07
devnull_yes05:07
ivotkldavidhurwich: can you pastebin "lshw -C networking" (I believe that was the correct command)05:07
kslaterI mean for davidhurwich's problem05:07
ivotkldavidhurwich: *can you pastebin "lshw -C networking" (I believe that was the correct command)?05:07
kslaterMy wifi works great05:08
devnull_davidhurwich, what security proto is your network using ?05:08
davidhurwichIvotki - what info do you want from the the ishw command?05:08
devnull_maybe a wpa supplicant issue ?05:09
* kslater off to reboot. Hopes to be back shortly.05:09
davidhurwichrunning lshw -C networking outputted no info05:10
juniour davidhurwich lshw | grep "network"05:11
juniourtry this05:11
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juniourdavidhurwich try this sudo lshw | grep -i "network"05:13
davidhurwichsays network unclaimed05:14
davidhurwichdescription: network controller05:14
devnull_you can see your wiresless network in ubuntu ?05:15
davidhurwichno, no network shows up. It used to in earlier versions05:16
devnull_oh05:16
devnull_does netmanager show wireless enabled ?05:16
grmIt seems that ubuntu 12.04 can't completely support computer with chip intel 42005:16
davidhurwichis there a way to check that?05:17
davidhurwichto grm05:17
devnull_what version of ubuntu ?05:17
grmmy computer always  crash05:17
davidhurwichmy net manger is set to "enable networking"05:17
devnull_grm what is intel 420 chip ?05:17
devnull_davidhurwich, okay ... and it doesn't say enable wireless  ?05:18
davidhurwichit says enable Networking, but my network does not come up05:18
SailorMoonHis wireless driver needs loaded/installed05:18
SailorMoonI'm too new to assist with that, though.05:19
grmIntel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 420 @1.60GHz, my computer configuration.05:19
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tehwilderlol42005:19
devnull_grm .... what you need to do is figure out what the other pieces of your system are using ... video, sound, etc and see if maybe there are better drivers for them05:20
devnull_davidhurwich, what version of ubuntu ?05:20
davidhurwich12-0405:20
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HeKToN|sleep!group05:20
grmthank, I will try.05:20
SailorMoonhave david type that terminal command that will tell him/us the wireless devices name05:20
devnull_grm ... is it a laptop ?05:20
grmno, Desktop05:21
devnull_davidhurwich, lspci | grep -i network05:21
devnull_grm ... gotcha ... was it custom or a prebuilt model ?05:21
davidhurwichbroadcom corp BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)05:22
devnull_oh05:22
SailorMoonThats what i figured, thats what i installed just two hours ago, davidhurwich lol05:22
devnull_davidhurwich,  .... bcm53 or 54 i used to use with my hp laptop through ndiswrapper05:22
devnull_when i upgraded to 12.04 .... it stopped using ndsiwrapper ... the b43 module should work i think05:23
davidhurwichso, will my driver not work with 12-04?05:23
grmmaybe not. I don't know.05:23
abrandtAnyone have issues with partitioned HDD running 12.04 and Win8?05:23
devnull_davidhurwich, im just guessing .. i had a similar card to yours ... i think it was like b43 or b3 or something like that05:23
SailorMoonits b4305:24
devnull_insmod b43   and see if your networking comes up05:24
SailorMooni believe ubuntu has a way to use these drivers in the additional drivers section of that area where you pick package repos. i dunno what its called05:24
devnull_software sources ... will give you access to proprietary drivers ... but b43 is open05:25
SailorMoonit will be there05:25
davidhurwichhow do i access software sources?05:25
dr_willis  12.10  software sources tool. has the addational drivers tab05:25
devnull_grm ... if there is a model number for your computer ... do a google search for .. your model and ubuntu x.x05:25
kslaterwoohoo! Reboot worked fine.05:25
SailorMoonoh, 12.04 doesnt have it, dr_willis?05:25
kslaterOn to 12.04.1 I guess05:25
dr_willissearch for it via the dash05:25
dr_willis12.04 has jockey-gtk05:26
devnull_davidhurwich,  it should be in system settings05:26
devnull_oh yes .. jockey05:26
sarahrhiya05:26
dr_willisor just apt-get install what you need05:26
davidhurwichno software sources05:26
devnull_grm ... it isi possible the issue you are having has already been taken care of05:26
sarahrThis is probably the first time I've been on IRC in maybeā€¦15 years?05:26
devnull_davidhurwich, do you have ubuntu software center ?05:27
devnull_sarahr :)05:27
davidhurwichyes05:27
devnull_davidhurwich, load it .. then i think it is like edit -> software sources05:27
sarahrgeeing out on ubuntu brought me back05:27
sarahr"geeking"05:27
devnull_davidhurwich, though ... 12.04 might not have the tab for drivers05:27
sarahris the channel just for support, or is this a place to nerd out, too?05:27
dr_willis1205:27
dr_willis12.04  run   jockey-gtk05:28
devnull_sarahr .... mostly support05:28
somsip!support | sarahr05:28
ubottusarahr: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com05:28
sarahrdev - where do ubuntu fans chat?05:28
dr_willis12.10 find that tab...05:28
davidhurwichok05:28
somsipsarahr: #ubuntu-offtopic for related but not support05:28
sarahrrad05:28
devnull_sarahr .. not sure ... there is probably offtopic channel05:28
davidhurwichI'm in software sources, now what?05:28
sarahrthanks!05:28
devnull_davidhurwich, from the menu ... edit -> software sources05:29
Gnea!nvidia05:29
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto05:29
kslaterhow does one go about adding stuff to 'status' bar at the top of the screen?05:29
devnull_davidhurwich, if that doesn't have a drivers tab ... do what dr_willis has explained with jockey-gtk05:29
devnull_kslater, unfortunately ... the applications have to be specificaly written now to be on that bar i believe05:29
davidhurwichi have a a ubuntu software, other software, updates, authentication, statsitics05:29
devnull_davidhurwich, okay you will need jockey-gtk then05:30
davidhurwichran the command05:30
kslaterdevnull_: I used to have a status app that would show load factor, network traffic, cpu load and memory. Not available any longer?05:30
davidhurwichit opened additional drivers05:30
devnull_kslater ... it is annoying .. a lot of stuff that used to sit in the notification area no longer will05:30
devnull_kslater .. i have that ... i will give you the name .. hold on05:30
davidhurwichit says my broadcom STA wireless driver is activated05:30
devnull_indicator-multiload05:31
devnull_davidhurwich, okay .. well that is a step in the right direction05:31
devnull_davidhurwich ... ifconfig  ... does wlan0 show up ?05:31
SailorMoondavidhurwich: connect it to the internet using ethernet, and try sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer05:32
devnull_sailormoon ....... fantastic idea05:32
juniourkslater sudo apt-get install indicator-multiload05:32
devnull_kslater, there aren't as many indicator in the repos any more ... a lot of them have to be gotten from outside05:32
grmdevnull_, i am sorry. 12.04LTS, and model might be Inter Corp.05:33
SailorMooni use gnome classic, like a noob.05:33
redenginanyone know how to get bonding to work with netmanager for wlan nics?05:33
dr_willisaskubuntu.com had a big list of indicator applets05:33
grm32 bits05:34
devnull_i only use indicator-multi and indicator-cpufreq-selector05:34
devnull_grm ... are you still having crashing issues ? you can always check the logs to see what went wrong .. that might help pinpoint what needs to be adjusted05:34
devnull_ubuntu does what it can to match drivers but sometimes you need to change them05:35
devnull_or like me right now ... tyring to get my 5 speakers on my laptop working correctly ... odd driver issues05:36
grmdevnull_, Yes, thank you. I try to download a new drives.05:36
devnull_cant get my subwoofer to work05:37
kslaterdevnull_: thanks for that. It's surprising how much I look at that thing during a normal day05:37
devnull_kslater, me too ... that was one of the first things i installed05:37
SailorMoondavidhurwich: still with us?05:37
devnull_for me it is because i got a new laptop so i want to see how it handles and how the load is05:37
davidhurwichsorry05:38
davidhurwichi uninstaleld the driver05:38
davidhurwichand reboot05:38
davidhurwichand now it seems to find the network. weird05:38
devnull_cool05:38
kslatermaybe he should get sshd up and running and allow someone to have a closer look.05:38
juniourdavidhurwich try this an tell output05:38
juniouriwlist wlan0 scan05:39
devnull_so if anyone has any ideas how to get my beats audio speakers under 4.1 profile in ubuntu 12.10 that would be great ... i have no subwoofer05:39
davidhurwichit spit out a lot, anything particular you want?05:40
juniourthe above command scan the wifi in range05:40
devnull_that is good that it has output05:40
juniouryea05:40
davidhurwichok, yeah it did05:41
davidhurwichmaybe i had two drivers installed?05:41
devnull_some type of conflict ... or the wrong order05:41
juniourit means you car is reading the signal05:41
davidhurwichmaybe thats why it didn't work until i uninstalled one05:41
juniourit means you card is reading the signal05:41
kslaterdevnull_: I actually like this one (indicator-multiload) better than the old version05:41
kaezahello05:41
devnull_kslater, a lot more information in the drop down menu05:41
juniourdavidhurwich try this05:42
davidhurwichthanks for everyone help, i really appreciate it05:42
devnull_kslater, if you have a cpu that changes frequency ... i suggest indicator-cpufreq-selector .. lets you adjust the governor05:42
kaezaI think I borked my ubuntu box05:42
davidhurwichno junior. i uninstalled my driver and now my network works :)05:42
devnull_kaeza what happened ? ... and how does that make you feel ?  :)05:42
kslaterI have a dual core centrino05:42
kaezaI uninstalled Unity and now I can't boot05:42
juniouriwlist wlan0 scan | grep -i "ESSID"05:42
kaezaI have IceWM installed05:43
devnull_kaeza what do you mean by can't boot ... don't get to the GUI to login ... or it won't get past the bios ?05:43
kaezahow can I make Ubuntu use it?05:43
kaezas/boot/login/05:43
devnull_if you can get to the login screen ... you should be able to change your session05:43
devnull_and pick your other windowmanager05:43
davidhurwichonce again thanks to everyone for your help. I really appreciate it05:44
longrunhey guys need help with service iss-realsecure05:44
longrunhey guys need help with service iss-realsecure?05:44
dr_willisicewm is rather.. primitive these days05:44
kaezait just says "falied lo run 'ubuntu'" or something like that05:44
davidhurwichjust out of curiosity, what IRC chat clients do you use on ubuntu?05:44
devnull_davidhurwich, thats what everyone is here for :)05:44
kaezaand won't respond to keypresses05:44
ibtanyone know why I can't download 12.10? Tried all day today and it just gets a ways and hangs.05:44
devnull_kaeza .... so the login screen doesn't come up ?05:44
kaezanope05:44
HeKToN|sleepmorphis,05:44
HeKToN|sleepmorphid05:45
kaezaI'm scrwd right?05:45
devnull_kaeza .. maybe you need to install GDM .. or what ever they are using now05:45
longrunservice iss-realsecure opens tcp port.. how do i close it05:45
devnull_kaeza ... i don't think so05:45
longrun>05:45
kslaterhow well do these later version handle multiple monitors? I guess I'm going to have to find out tomorrow morning05:45
juniourdavidhurwich :)05:45
HeKToN|sleepMuphrid, I found the scripts for the youtube flashplayer stuff but I have no idea how to install such a things yet05:45
devnull_kslater, haven't gotten to really test my hdmi output .. but it seems to handle it pretty well .... works better with the proprietary ATI fglrx drivers though05:45
kaezadevnull_: may I PM?05:46
devnull_kaeza, sure05:46
MuphridHeKToN|sleep: just give me the link and i guide you05:46
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longrunservice iss-realsecure opens tcp port.. how do i close it???05:46
kslaterdevnull_: I'm using an nvidia setup05:46
kslaterit worked pretty well in the past. I'll just hope it's at least as good now.05:46
bazhang!repeat | longrun05:46
ubottulongrun: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:46
devnull_kslater, as far as i know ... nvidias drivers and the open ones work pretty dang good .. so i would imagine you will be fine05:46
longrunservice iss-realsecure opens tcp port.. how do i close it?05:46
HeKToNhttp://userscripts.org/tags/viewtube05:46
devnull_kslater, but it depends ... how you are setting it up05:46
bazhanglongrun, thats enough. stop asking every five seconds05:47
longrunservice iss-realsecure not listed in ps -aux but opens tcp port.. how do i close it?05:47
HeKToNadan0s,05:47
HeKToNsorry05:47
devnull_longrun ... is the port listed in /etc/services05:47
longruni ran an nmap scan on my own machine and found it open..05:48
kslaterdevnull_: What I used to have (at work before my current health problems demoted me to a contractor), was 2 monitors plugged into my docking station for my laptop.05:48
MuphridHeKToN: what browser are you using?05:48
HeKToNfirefox05:48
MuphridHeKToN: install the greasemonkey addon05:48
HeKToNthanks05:48
Saikhello everyone. I need to know how to fix a connection issue from a VM online. I can access certain things on the machine from my pc, but not everyting as it would if I was using my localhost05:49
kslaterThe laptop wouldn't automagically switch, but I had a quick script I ran to switch between the laptop LCD and the two external monitors. It was manual and a pain, but it worked well.05:49
devnull_kslater, i think you will be fine05:49
kslaterideally, it would notice that it was in the docking station and just flip to the external monitors.05:49
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kslaterthere was/is a udev event for the docking and undocking events05:50
kslateranyway, for another time.05:50
Guest85742hi05:50
rsvWhat svn gui client is best in ubuntu05:50
eos_hi everybody! I have segmentation fault on gimp .... ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, gimp from rep05:50
eos_anyone with the same problem? anyone who knows how to solve?05:50
Guest85742I have more question about ubuntu server secure some one can help me05:51
bazhangGuest85742, try #ubuntu-server05:51
kslaterI'm still getting used to Unity05:51
kslaterI don't hate it, but I'm not sold on it yet either05:51
dr_willisit works well for me.05:52
devnull_kslater, took me like a few days and i got used to it .... i had it turned off till i upgraded to 12.1005:52
bazhangrsv, there is no best, check the package manager and choose which suits the most05:52
devnull_if you get your notification area together and use compiz to give yourself some quick bindings to things you will get used to it fast05:52
AlcariTheMadso i've got an openvz-based ubuntu 11.04 vm, and `init` is currently using 80-90% of the cpu; due to the fact that it's openvz (i think), i can't do `strace -p 1` to find out what it's doing, and can't think of any reason it might usefully be using that much processor time05:52
eos_does gimp work for everybody?05:52
AlcariTheMadany ideas?05:52
kslaterwhere is it that I turn on extra effects? Used to be in Appearance I thought.05:53
rsvbazhang:  i dont know how to check in package manager05:53
longrunservice iss-realsecure not listed in ps -aux, /etc/services. but opens tcp port.. how do i close it?05:53
bazhangeos_, give more details.05:53
rsvwhere can i find it05:53
dr_williseos_:  gimp has worked for years....05:53
ibtanyone attempted to d/l 12.10 lately? Been trying all day and d/l's freeze every time05:53
bazhangrsv apt-cache search svn05:53
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dr_willisibt:  try the torrents?05:53
Guest85742Jan  1 10:51:32 : rajesh : user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/0 ;PWD=/var/www/vhosts ;USER=root ; > COMMAND=/usr/bin/id05:54
devnull_ibt ... try a torrent download05:54
ibtdr_willis: any particular torrent you can recommend?05:54
bazhangibt, at www.ubuntu.com ?05:54
bazhang!torrents | ibt05:54
ubottuibt: Quantal can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/server/ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696905:54
devnull_longrun, alright ... for the last time ... is that port listed in /etc/services05:54
ibtyeah no love at ubuntu.com05:54
ibtwill try the torrent, thanks05:54
MuphridHeKToN: got it?05:54
Guest85742I am receiving emails from server like user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/0 ;PWD=/var/www/vhosts ;USER=root ; > COMMAND=/usr/bin/id some one can tel me what this mean05:54
kslateruh oh, need to find a spotify-client too.05:55
longrunport not listed. that service not installed in my machine but still the nmap scan on my own machine shows tcp port openen with iss-realsecure service05:56
devnull_what port number05:56
bazhanglongrun, you need to answer the questions asked you. stop just repeating that again and again05:56
longrunport 90205:56
Saikhello everyone. I need to know how to fix a connection issue from "VMWare player" to broadcast online. I can access certain things on the machine from my pc, but not everyting as it would if I was using my localhost05:57
ibtubottu: many thanks for the torrent links. seems to be working like a champ :-)05:57
ubottuibt: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:57
ibtlol05:58
devnull_lol05:58
longrun<devnull_> port 90205:58
devnull_longrun,  im checking05:58
OerHekslongrun, port 902 could be used by vmware server too05:58
prishabhawesome - http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone06:00
john123456does anyone know why terraform-blue and orange removed from gnome-backgrounds?06:01
Muphridprishabh: it was a buzz this afternoon06:01
devnull_prishabh, awesome06:01
longrunbut why is iss-realsecure detected. that is an IDS for complex systems, atleast not for a home pc06:01
devnull_longrun, why are you assuming it is iss-realsecure ?06:01
longrunthat service is detected as so... found it to be vmware only.. thanks for the help.. killed all vmware processes and its gone.. thanks to everyone06:03
devnull_cool06:03
devnull_and understand that a localhost scan will possibly return more ports than are available from the outside06:04
maqrhow can i do an 'upgrade' while omitting any packages that would require a reboot?06:04
longruni know. so i ran the full scan. i mean through wan06:04
devnull_longrun, okay cool06:04
OerHekslongrun, any port can be used by more than one service > http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=90206:04
maqri didn't do a dist-upgrade, but it still wants to upgrade 'linux-base' and 'linux-image-*', both of which are flagged reboot-required06:04
longrunyep. got it.06:05
devnull_maqr ... why would you want to do this06:05
devnull_maqr ... you can update all you want ... until you reboot those specific changes will not go into effect06:05
maqrdevnull_: i'm deploying an instance on ec2, and i want the latest packages, but i will never reboot the instance, so there's no point in letting anything with reboot-required update06:06
troophello, it is not problem but my boot screen ( purple screen )  has gone after nvidia installation. and now i see text06:06
devnull_i still don't understand06:06
devnull_maqr .. im not sure if the reboot is required to finish the update .. or just to bring you into the new kernel06:06
devnull_maqr ..  you are making an image ?06:07
maqrdevnull_: /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs lists "linux-image-3.7.0-7-generic" and "linux-base" as the packages that triggered it, but i don't know why 'aptitude -y -q upgrade' would ever cause those packages to upgrade... that sounds like something dist-upgrade would do06:07
maqrdevnull_: nope, i'm using 13.04 from here http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/06:08
devnull_maqr ... they treat the kernel like any other piece of software ... when there is an update you get it06:08
devnull_maqr ... gotcha06:08
devnull_not sure how that cloud stuff works06:08
maqrdevnull_: well, if there was a switch for aptitude that said "omit all packages tagged reboot-required", that would be ideal06:09
devnull_it still doesn't make sense to do that06:09
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devnull_do you not want the latest kernel ?06:09
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maqrdevnull_: i don't mind having it, but i can't reboot to get it06:09
longruncheck http://www.ksplice.com/ for updating kernel without reboot06:09
devnull_maqr .... well it will install the new one ... it will be available06:09
dr_williswhat a strange requirement. ;)06:10
devnull_i would imagine once that image gets booted it will have the new kernel06:10
maqrlongrun: neat that it can be done, totally not what i need though :P06:10
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nextblovehello want to format my flash drive how could i do06:11
maqrdevnull_: it boots, then i run aptitude update/upgrade, then i ssh in and it tells me reboot required... so i'm assuming it's on the old kernel, which is fine too06:11
devnull_maqr .. yes06:11
maqrdevnull_: i guess i'll just leave it, it's not going to hurt anything06:11
maqrother than a silly message when i ssh in :P06:11
devnull_but once that image does boot .. it should be on the new kernel06:11
maqrit'll never boot :P06:12
devnull_im not sure how that actually works though ... it just boots an image ? does the image not have files that change in it06:12
devnull_oh ... i think i get it now .... yea ... you will just constantly get that message about rebooting06:12
maqrdevnull_: it loads the image from something called an 'ami', Amazon Machine Image, which gives you pretty stock working ubuntu install... then you fill in something called 'user-data' which runs through 'cloud-init' (also an ubuntu initiative), which essentially runs any shell scripts or whatever that you'd want06:12
devnull_okay06:13
maqrdevnull_: in my case, the first thing my cloud-init script does is a system update/upgrade, which is leaving me with this silly message about rebooting :)06:13
devnull_btw you can omit those packages06:13
longrunnothing will truly upgrade or update without rebooting or restarting... the old version runs as long as that service restarted/rebooted..06:13
longrunonce after reboot/restart, then only the new versions starts working06:14
maqri suppose i could just null out the /var/run/reboot-required stuff06:14
devnull_you can just mask them i think06:14
hendryi can't find "System settings" on my Ubuntu 12.04 install. could I have uninstalled it?06:14
maqrlongrun: ok, as long as i'm not in some half-way state, it's all goo06:14
maqr*good06:14
noirohey guys. Any idea how to make an .sh on an external harddrive executable?06:14
excervohello guys, how do i disable unity on ubuntu 12.10?06:14
noiroWhen I try to make it executable, it unchecks the option again06:15
devnull_noiri ..chmod +x blash.sh06:15
ezrafreeanyone know what i could try to look at to resolve this... my ubuntu box is stopping the bootup process after it says "checking battery state..."06:15
maqrnoiro: what type of file system is it?06:15
dr_willisexcervo:  install and use a different desktop is one way06:15
devnull_ezrafree, might be a apci  problem ? ... not sure about that though06:15
devnull_hendry .. i don't think so06:16
noiromaqr: it's a simple sh file. devnull: it doesn't work06:16
ezrafreedevnull_: googling it pulls some ubuntu forums that seem to imply it might be a graphics driver problem but i have an intel card, so i don't think there's a way to reinstall the drivers (or rather, there are no drivers really)06:16
devnull_hendry ... gnome-control-center06:16
maqrnoiro: i mean the file system of the disk, 'df' will show you06:17
devnull_noiri .... sudo chmod +x script.sh06:17
noiromaqr: ntsf06:17
noiroIt's a shared partition between my linux and windows partition06:17
dr_willisyou dont chmod stuff on ntfs or vfaat06:17
devnull_ezrafree, have you tried booting it in recovery or something ?06:17
maqrnoiro: i think that's your problem, but i don't know what you're supposed to do about it :P06:17
devnull_noiro .. is it ntfs ?06:17
dr_willissh foo.sh  or bash foo.sh06:17
maqrnoiro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition related probably06:17
ezrafreewhere would be a good log file to look in?06:18
dr_willisor mount the whold fs executable06:18
devnull_ezrafree, dmesg06:18
hendrydevnull_: what can't dash find these basic things?06:18
noiroI dont' really need any protection on the partition, I just want all access to it06:18
ezrafreedevnull_: no, i haven't tried that yet. actually i don't know how to get into recovery mode but i will google it06:18
ezrafreedevnill: thx ill check dmesg too06:18
devnull_hold LEFT SHIFT at boot06:18
devnull_will give you grub menu06:18
dr_willisits annoying when every file is executable on vfat/ntfs06:18
devnull_hendry,    open a terminal and type in gnome- control  and hit tab and see if it is listed06:19
devnull_hendry, sorry .... gnome-con  and hit tab06:19
MatthewwAny pro with kubuntu 12.10 atm?06:20
devnull_im on 12.10 ... don't know if the system settings is a different named app on 12.0406:20
maqrdevnull_: is there a convenient way to prevent all 'linux-base' and 'linux-image-*' from updating? because this actually is going to drive me crazy :P06:20
devnull_maqr ... yes i believe there is .... i think it is called "masking"06:20
maqrhmm, i don't see any docs about it06:20
devnull_maqr .... Pinning maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto06:21
AlcariTheMadnow, i generally don't insult entire channels, but this is the least-helpful linux distribution channel i think i've ever been in06:21
bazhangdencrypt, maqr its pinning. not really something you want to do with kernels06:21
bazhangdevnull_, ^06:21
bazhangsorry dencrypt06:21
devnull_maqr ... or "holding"06:21
maqrah06:21
bazhang!pinning | maqr devnull_06:21
ubottumaqr devnull_: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto06:21
witesharkhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/225655/webcam-doesnt-work-in-ubuntu-12-1006:22
nextblove#centos06:22
maqrubottu: does it support wildcards?06:22
ubottumaqr: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:22
maqroh, right06:22
devnull_maqr i think you want "holding" ... will hold it at current version06:22
witesharkis there a 12.10 web cam issue?06:22
devnull_witeshark ... depends on your cam and setup06:22
maqrdevnull_: that's definitely what i want, but i'd have to make sure it's always linux-image-3.7.0-7-generic, i'd rather it supported a wildcard... i guess i can script it06:22
devnull_my built in one works fine in 12.10 ... but it is a new laptop06:23
bazhangdevnull_, its pinning, not holding.06:23
devnull_maqr .. well if you aren't updating the linux-image ... it shouldn't have a need to get the other support packages for the kernel .. like headers06:23
witesharkdevnull_, dell 154506:23
maqrdevnull_: oh, i'll try pinning just that one and see what happens then06:23
devnull_bazhang, the doc calls it Holding Packages06:23
devnull_pinning is more specific to the distro it seems06:24
devnull_holding locks the version of the software06:24
devnull_witeshark ... did you google "webcam problem in 12.10 dell 1545" ?06:24
maqrdevnull_: it doesn't like me trying to hold linux-base, it's probably some meta/pseudo/whatever package06:24
tobe_hello06:25
devnull_witeshark, if you can find out what device that your webcam is .. is it internal? external ?06:25
witesharkdevnull_, yes, now i have thanks06:25
witesharknight all06:25
tobe_i have a small annoying issue.  my mouse moves past my screen to the right. is there a way to fix this? plz help06:25
devnull_maqr ... that is possible ... i think bazhang  might know more about it ... im just reading the doc06:25
sgo11hi, I am using gnome3. installed indicator-cpufreq. how to enable it in gnome? when I execute the command "indicator-cpufreq". nothing happens. thanks.06:25
devnull_tobe_, turn off dual output06:26
devnull_sgo11, indicator-cpufreq-selector is the package you need for the notification area06:26
tobe_devnull_:  oh man... but i use an external screen because my laptop screen is cracked...06:26
maqrdevnull_: you've got me going in the right direction, ty :)06:26
devnull_tobe_, go into display settings and make sure it is only using one of your screens06:27
sgo11devnull_, thanks a lot. I will install that one. does it mean indicator-cpufreq is for unity only?06:27
devnull_maqr ... no probe .. and thanks bazhang06:27
devnull_sgo11, no ... indicator-cpufreq is just like the backside of it i believe ... the actual indicator application is the -selector one .. i am in unity06:27
nextblovehello anyone can help me to format my flash drive please06:28
devnull_nextblove, format it to what ?06:28
nextblovein command line06:28
bazhangnextblove, use the disks application to do so06:28
tobe_devnull_:  wow i feel dumb now. i see the on off button everytime but its not really labeled... thanks06:28
devnull_nextblove, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22381/how-to-format-a-usb-flash-drive06:28
nextblovei said i want to format my flash drive in command line06:28
devnull_oh okay06:28
sgo11devnull_, with apt-cache search, I only can see "indicator-cpufreq". where is that selector package? if that is not in default repo, why does the default repo have indicator-cpufreq? weird.06:29
devnull_sgo11, let me check ... what version of ubuntu ?06:29
sgo11devnill, 12.0406:29
Guest59790My rhythm box stopped playing last.fm any idea06:29
devnull_nextblove, that link has a command line way of doing it06:29
sgo11devnull_, ubuntu 12.0406:30
devnull_ok06:30
b3njhi need help06:31
kaezaback06:31
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devnull_sgo11, hehe ... let me remember how i got it06:31
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b3njubuntu does not boot showing black screen06:32
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Guest59790By speed playing I mean none of the stations I make will play also I can go to the suite and the stations play just fine.06:32
devnull_sgo11, from the command line do ... indicator-cpufreq  and hit tab06:32
kaezadevnull_: I was able to start IceWM, but forgot to ask how to connect to internet from command line06:32
OerHeks!nomodeset | b3nj06:32
ubottub3nj: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:32
devnull_kaeza, im glad you got in06:32
devnull_kaeza, wireless ?06:32
kaezayes06:32
sgo11devnull_, yeah, that command is installed already... I got exception: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.75" is not allowed06:33
devnull_you might want to see if icewm has a network manager app06:33
devnull_sgo11, is indicator-cpufreq-selector installed ?06:33
b3njOerHeks06:33
kaezadevnull_: I looked all around the menus and found none06:34
sgo11devnull_, I just apt-get install indicator-cpufreq. indicator-cpufreq-selector is just a command.06:34
devnull_kaeza, how are you chatting right now ?06:34
b3njOerHeks06:34
kaezafrom Puppy Linux06:34
devnull_sgo11, did you just install it and haven't rebooted ?06:34
Guest59790Wow puppy Linux in the house.06:35
devnull_sgo11, try logging out and back in .. that app would not load for me till i had rebooted06:35
sgo11devnull_, that's correct. I thought linux world didn't require reboot. that is windows world thing.06:35
kaezaon Puppy I  use wvdial06:35
devnull_sgo11, not all the time06:35
devnull_sgo11, usually a login and out will do it ... force X to reload06:35
OerHeksb3nj, just ask06:35
sgo11devnull_, ok. ^_^ let me reboot... I have to reopen everything again. what a pity...06:35
b3njOerHeks, in grub i chose advanced options and ubuntu booted normally06:36
OerHeksb3nj, what 'advanced option' ?06:37
Guest59790Any thought on rhythmbox not playing last.fm06:37
devnull_sgo11 .. just login and out first06:37
devnull_ah dang he left06:37
devnull_Guest59790, not at the moment06:38
b3njOerHeks, grub does not show up again06:39
Guest59790devnull: okay thank you.06:39
OerHeksb3nj, there are no advanced options besides recovery , previous kernels and memtest06:39
b3njOerHeks, advanced options for ubuntu06:40
devnull_Guest59790, what version of ubuntu ?06:41
Guest59790Devnull: 12.04 x6406:41
b3njOerHeks, when i choose advanced options for ubuntu i see ubuntu, with linux 3.5.0-21-generic, same as previous (recovery mode), ubuntu with linux 3.5.0-17-generic and same as previous (recovery mode)06:42
devnull_Guest59790, try disabling the plugin .. closing rhythmbox ... reopen and reenable the plugin06:43
Guest59790That did not help.06:43
sgo11devnull_, first, indicator-cpufreq-selector still gives me that error. but I just realized indicator-cpufreq is running at the bottom-right bar in gnome3. then I installed indicator-multiload, it's running at bottom-right bar as well. that bar is hidden in gnome3. very weird. I don't know how to call that bar. task bar? what I want is some applets/indicator in the top-right bar. how to do that in gnome3? thanks.06:44
b3njOerHeks, so when i choose ubuntu 3.5.0 generic it boots alright06:44
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dr_willissgo11:  checked the gnome-shell extensions web site? it has many for the top bar06:45
eos_dr_willis: yes, gimp has always worked for me but after the last couple of updates it does not anymore .... I get a seg fault when I try to open or save any picture06:45
devnull_sgo11, i am using unity ... there is no bottom bar .. everything is in the upper right ... you have a "notification are" applet in your bottom panel ... if you remove it it might start using the correct spot .. if not try middle clicking on what you want and move it06:45
sgo11dr_willis, got it. let me see. thanks a lot. the two indicators are for unity only then.06:46
tuxtotiI created a new user this way : sudo useradd foo -m -s /bin/bash  . Also set the passwd : sudo passwd foo.06:46
b3njOerHeks, so what do I do?06:46
sgo11devnull_, sure. I think I will remove the two indicators and check gnome3 extensions suggested by dr_willis. thanks.06:47
tuxtotinow if i do a : su foo  and enter the password, the base directory is not /home/foo.06:47
dr_willistuxtoti:  adduser command may be easier to use06:47
tuxtotithough /home/foo still exists.06:47
tuxtotidr_willis: ok.06:47
ominomihmm..06:47
dr_willisive never used useradd i ;)06:47
devnull_VPN in kubuntu 12.10 ... does that require openssl libraries for the certificate or should that lib be installed already ?06:47
eos_dr_willis: yet, if I run it as root, it works06:48
WeThePeopledo i need to configure lampp before start?06:48
devnull_WeThePeople, before starting what06:48
dr_williseos_:  try as a newly made user. if a new user works.. sounds like a app config issue06:48
WeThePeopledevnull, lampp06:49
WeThePeopledevnull_, lampp06:49
devnull_WeThePeople, no i mean ... before starting what ... lampp is just an acronym06:49
dr_williseos_:  ive also seen where running stuff as root can cause  config files in the users home to get made/owned by root which can goof things up06:49
eos_dr_willis: here is the log of the crash when launching from konsole http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490817/06:49
devnull_WeThePeople, where did you install linux to ?06:50
b3njhelp me, ubuntu does not boot showing black screen06:50
WeThePeopledevnull_, /opt06:50
WeThePeopledevnull_, localhost shows nothing06:50
WeThePeoplein chrome06:50
dr_willis!nomodeset | b3nj06:50
ubottub3nj: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:50
eos_dr_willis: I have tried removing all config files as well06:50
devnull_WeThePeople, i dont understand what you are trying to do .... are you in linux ?06:51
dr_williseos_:  see if a newly made user works as a test06:51
b3njdr_willis, i boot ubuntu not for the first time06:51
eos_dr_willis: yes, this is what I am doing now06:51
Guest59790B3nj: have you tried a previous version?06:51
WeThePeopledevnull_, yes precise.. i want to get lampp to come up in a browser06:51
devnull_WeThePeople, first of all ... stop saying LAMP06:51
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maqrdevnull_: oh, it turns out i shouldn't even be upgrading the whole OS, i should be doing something called 'unattended-upgrades'06:52
devnull_load a browser and go to localhost06:52
WeThePeopledevnull_, no06:52
WeThePeoplethat what it is06:52
b3njGuest59790: i do not know what it is but when in grub i choose advanced options for ubuntu it shows 3.5 kernel and when i choose it ubuntu boots normally06:52
devnull_do you mean LAMP or are you saying LAMPP06:52
kslatertime to hit the sack. Thanks for the help and grins everyone.06:53
devnull_night kslater06:53
kaezaback06:53
kaezadevnull_: it worked!!06:53
devnull_kaeza, sweet06:53
kaezaI'm now on ubuntu!06:53
kslaterhave to get some sleep as I have to visit the Dr. again tomorrow.06:53
kaezathank you so much!06:53
WeThePeopledevnull_, it xampp for Linux, localhost says error not found06:54
devnull_np06:54
Guest59790B3nj have you some that and then checked for additional drivers for your video card?06:54
WeThePeoplehence lampp06:54
kslaternow we all need to figure out devnull_'s problem where his subwoofer isn't working..06:54
kaezaand I also got rid of the global menu in the process ^_^06:54
devnull_WeThePeople, what are you trying to do ... stop saying LAMP06:54
b3njGuest59790: what do you mean?06:54
b3njGuest59790: yesterday ubuntu booted alright06:55
ben_Hello everybody, can an ubuntu noob get some help?06:55
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jCuber!ask | ben_06:55
ubottuben_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:56
kylescottmcgillWeThePeople: If you are on Linux, you dont need LAMPP, just install Apache2 PHP MYSQL and you should be sorted, each of those are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT applications/Modules06:56
XabsterHi, I just googled to see if i could find a list of supported hardware - anyone got a link cause my results are way off06:56
b3nj!patience06:56
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/06:56
devnull_kylescottmcgill, thanks06:56
ben_I've got 12.10, and I lose my audio playback after a suspend/resume cycle and can't get it back without a reboot. HP notebook.  Anyone know of any fixes for that?06:56
WeThePeoplekylescottmcgill, lampp comes with all of those06:56
WeThePeopleand more06:56
devnull_WeThePeople, stop06:56
b3njGuest59790: well?06:56
devnull_WeThePeople, what the hell are you trying to do ?? answer the question06:56
eos_dr_willis: still returns many errors but it does not crash anymore!06:57
WeThePeopledevnull_, as i stated get lampp to show up in the browser06:57
devnull_WeThePeople, STOP saying LAMPP06:57
kylescottmcgilllol06:57
Xabsteryou mean apache2's default page, WeThePeople?06:57
WeThePeoplelampp is running and is returning a error not found in chrome06:57
Guest59790B3nj: you said that of you select advanced options it works correct? If so once in find the application that searches for additional drivers and see if there is one for your graphics card.06:57
kylescottmcgillWeThePeople: please paste the link to the package you are using06:58
XabsterWeThePeople: lamp can't run; it's not a program06:58
eos_dr_willis: what do you think?06:58
maqrheh, i wonder what the history of having 'unattended-upgrades' symlinked to 'unattended-upgrade' is06:58
Ailosis this working?06:58
WeThePeopleLINK>>> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#37706:58
devnull_maqr, good question06:58
Xabsteror, maybe lampp actually is a program launcher thingy, my bad06:58
kylescottmcgillThanks, ok DONT USE THAT, do it properly06:58
devnull_WeThePeople, why don't you just install apache, mysql, php like everyone else does06:58
jCuberben_: I can't remember how to do it, but you could try restarting your audio service (pulseaudio, i presume)06:59
WeThePeopledevnull_, i have those installed06:59
WeThePeoplelampp06:59
dulioWeThePeople: I use xampp only in win...06:59
WeThePeoplego to the website06:59
b3njGuest59790: okay06:59
Ailoscan anyone see this message?06:59
devnull_WeThePeople, exactly .... we all have LAMP ... you have LAMPP XAMPP which is something prepackaged i believe06:59
devnull_Ailos, hi06:59
jCuberAilos: Yes06:59
Ailoswoo!06:59
Ailosthanks, trying to figure out how pidgin works06:59
kylescottmcgillWeThePeople: sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 php5-common php5-mysql06:59
devnull_WeThePeople, it is an acronym for the software07:00
devnull_and what is the extra P for ?07:00
ben_jcuber, can you explain how I'd go about that please? I'm very poor in a terminal still.07:00
kylescottmcgilldevnull_: Perl07:00
kylescottmcgillor Python07:00
devnull_ahh07:00
devnull_yea ... definately just install apache2 the normal way07:00
Xabsterkylescottmcgill: i'm new to linux - after that command, how to start the webserver daemon?07:00
kylescottmcgillApache will automatically start07:00
devnull_if you need a control center there has to be one out there07:00
kylescottmcgillonce you have installed all of the above07:00
Xabsteras a auto-start service on boot?07:01
Xabstermkay07:01
kylescottmcgilltype into your browser 127.0.0.107:01
devnull_Xabster, apache2 should autostart if you have it installed07:01
WeThePeopledevnull_, here is the output>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490840/07:01
Guest59790B3nj: have you tried my suggestion yet?07:01
jCuberben_: I can't remember myself. Hey folks, how does one restart pulseaudio service?07:01
WeThePeopledevnull_, localhost says error not found07:01
Ailosis there a way to open the AdditionalĀ HardwareĀ Drivers dialog from command line?07:01
b3njGuest59790: to find driver?07:01
devnull_WeThePeople, you already have those services running07:01
WeThePeopledevnull_, yes07:02
devnull_WeThePeople, STOP with the lampp stuff07:02
WeThePeoplemade you say it07:02
WeThePeoplelol07:02
Ben64WeThePeople: why are you installing/running things that way? use the normal ubuntu way07:02
Guest59790B3nj: yes07:02
WeThePeopleben64, idk the norm07:02
devnull_WeThePeople, hehe07:02
Ben64WeThePeople: use the software center07:02
b3njGuest59790: but if i boot with advanced options it works well, so why do you think this is a driver problem07:02
kylescottmcgillWeThePeople: we are trying to help you with the norm... lol Software Center isnt the norm when your install development packages :D07:03
devnull_WeThePeople, ubuntu has many docs on getting a "AMP" setup07:03
eos_dr_willis: yet, I do not undertsand what is wrong with the other users configuration .... I would need all users to be allowed to use it.07:03
Ben64!lamp07:03
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.07:03
duliowhy not tasksel?07:03
duliotasksel to select LAMP server07:03
devnull_WeThePeople, im not trying to be hard on you ... im just trying to get you to understand that you probably should be doing this through the traditional ubuntu channel .. not outside sources07:04
Ben64dulio: thats what the !lamp links to07:04
dulioBen64: :)07:04
kylescottmcgilldulio: you could do that too, ive been a web developer for a long time, so i remember all this stuff, plus i like to configure it my way07:04
devnull_kylescottmcgill, i hear ya07:05
XabsterHi, I just googled to see if i could find a list of supported hardware - anyone got a link cause my results are way off07:05
Transhumanistapt-get is the norm often even when you're not installing development packages07:05
Transhumanistit's much faster07:05
devnull_Xabster, supported hardware for what ?07:05
Transhumanistand recommends the correct package when you get its name wrong07:05
duliokylescottmcgill: yea, me,too. but i installed first time by tasksel --!07:05
MuphridXabster: have you seen https://friendly.ubuntu.com/07:05
devnull_WeThePeople, i would uninstall your XAMPP/LAMPP  package of software07:05
kylescottmcgilldulio: yeah fair point07:05
Xabsterdevnull_: i'm considering replacing windows 7 on my home desktop with ubuntu 12.10 - i had problems in windows 7 with my quite new motherboards (network and sound didn't work)07:06
Xabsteri want to prepare for problems before i do anything07:06
devnull_Xabster, grab a LIVE CD .. i mean DVD now ... and either put it on a DVD or usb drive and boot into it07:06
duliokylescottmcgill: But I am not good at advanced options just like change mysql params.07:06
Xabsterright, installing makes no difference for drivers then i take it07:06
devnull_Xabster, if things work .. i would say ubuntu supports your hardware .. though if you go through ubuntus docs they do have pages and pages about hardware compatibility07:06
duliokylescottmcgill: You may help me somehow :)07:07
Xabsteri see, but i very much doubt it works, so i would have to try some drivers07:07
Ben64Xabster: installing ubuntu makes it run faster, and you get better graphics drivers as well07:07
XabsterBen64, assuming there are drivers for my ATI card :)07:07
kylescottmcgilldulio: defaults are normally pretty good, but with single application servers, you can tweak it to work more for you, and sift out cruft you dont need/want07:07
devnull_Xabster, try the live cd07:07
Ben64Xabster: there is a very high chance ubuntu will "just work"07:07
dr_williseos_:  i would check the config files and ownerships of the problem user07:07
kylescottmcgilldulio: im always willing to lend a helping hand :)07:08
devnull_Xabster, it is possible you may be missing some features .. but i would bet 90+ of your hardware will be supported out of the box07:08
anth0nyWhen I run 'users' in terminal, I see 'anthony' twice. When I run 'uptime', I see '2 users'.  Why would this be?07:08
eos_dr_willis: which configuration file? I tried deleting .gimp on the users home dir but did not work .... any other relevant configuration files?07:08
Ben64anth0ny: every instance of a login adds another07:08
kylescottmcgillanth0ny: are you logged in twice?07:08
kylescottmcgillin different TTY's?07:08
anth0nykylescottmcgill: it would appear that I am logged in.  I don't kow how/why07:09
dr_williseos_:  no idea. im not on a ubuntu box to look. and havent used gimp in months07:09
duliokylescottmcgill: thx, I will learn more here.07:09
kylescottmcgillanth0ny: run w in the terminal07:09
anth0nyBen64: the real quesiton is, why are there two instances of login?07:09
dr_williseos_:  look for stuff owned by root for starters07:09
kylescottmcgillit will tell you where are you logged in07:09
Ben64anth0ny: open another terminal and try again07:09
eos_dr_willis: could not find anything really07:09
dr_willisbbl07:09
eos_dr_willis: thanks a lot!07:09
anth0nykylescottmcgill: http://pastie.org/561453207:10
anth0nykylescottmcgill: so, looks like Ubuntu is a user and then the terminal is another?07:10
anth0nyBen64: ^07:10
kylescottmcgillanth0ny: i wouldnt worry about that, your Terminal has just 'logged you in'07:10
kylescottmcgillTTY7 is GUI, everything is more or less encapsulated into TTY707:11
kylescottmcgillanth0ny: ya07:11
anth0nyThe real issue is that Ubunut12.04 seems to be running really slowly. I used to run Mint and before that, Ubuntu 11.04 and they ran so much faster. Trying to figure out what's causing the major delay that occurs when the system starts up and to open applicaitons07:12
devnull_anth0ny,   Unity07:13
kylescottmcgillanth0ny: yeah try booting into Classic mode (i dont know if this enable by default)07:13
devnull_anth0ny, i had to tweak unity a lot on my old laptop to get decent speed ... and minesweeper was laggy as all heck07:13
anth0nydevnull_: what, is unity known for being really slow?07:13
devnull_kylescottmcgill, i think it needs to be downloaded07:13
anth0nyugh07:13
anth0nywhat a bummer07:14
devnull_anth0ny, not particularly ... but it is a 3d desktop .. and the side-scroll bars can cause latency issues ... it is new toolkits07:14
Ben64anth0ny: what graphics card do  you have07:14
kylescottmcgilldevnull_: ohk, i install Gnome3, and it appears, so i wasnt sure if it came with Gnome3 or it just enabled it as a fallback07:14
devnull_might need better graphic drivers07:14
devnull_i think you have to get it seperate ... gnome-classic ?07:14
devnull_or you can get cinnamon07:14
devnull_or some other fork of gnome2 even07:15
Ben64Ubuntu 2D might have better performance07:15
Ben64cinnamon is not supported here07:15
kylescottmcgilli use awesome wm :D its awesome....07:15
devnull_gotcha07:15
anth0nyBen64: DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR507:15
kylescottmcgillanth0ny: that should be sweet as07:15
Ben64anth0ny: do you have the proprietary drivers for it?07:15
devnull_kylescottmcgill, i used WM for years until sawfish came out07:15
kylescottmcgillhmm i will have a look07:15
kylescottmcgilloh the movie :D07:15
anth0nyBen64 - i believe so. it should be mentioned that when it was running fast, it was without that card07:16
devnull_sawfish was the Window Manager for gnome ... then it was called meta-city i think07:16
devnull_in the past that is07:16
devnull_anth0ny, you might need the ATI proprietary drivers ... or see if you are running the radeon open source one ... it worked for me on my old laptop07:16
kylescottmcgilloh i see, yeah i like my Tiling Window Managers, i enjoy Gnome3 as well, but i feel more productive in Awesome07:16
devnull_unfortunately i am using the ATI fglrx prop. drivers on my new laptop07:16
devnull_kylescottmcgill, i felt the same way ... Window Maker was awesome .. it still is ... i just feel that gnome stepped it up and has a good feature set and doesn't take up to much realestate anymore07:17
anth0nybrb07:17
kylescottmcgillya fair enough07:17
devnull_kylescottmcgill, though when unity came out i was tempted to go back to WM for a bit :)07:18
rocket_I fogot how to register into a channel, its been awhile07:18
somsip!register | rocket_07:18
ubotturocket_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type Ā« /nick <nickname> Ā» to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode07:18
devnull_kylescottmcgill, i loved all the docked applets ... it was so sweet ...   to bad Enlightenment still hasn't made it mainstream yet07:19
WeThePeoplewhat is a webserver for precise?07:19
somsipdevnull_: Enlightment is now 1.007:19
devnull_WeThePeople, Apache207:19
kylescottmcgillYeah, a lot of people seem to look down on it, because it requires a fari amount of attention prior to it working the way people expect, idk meh07:20
devnull_somsip, i saw the E17 thing as its own distro07:20
kylescottmcgillWeThePeople: sudo service apache2 status/reload/restart/stop/start are your friends if you have made any config changes07:20
kylescottmcgill/var/www is your default Web Directory07:21
kylescottmcgill127.0.0.1 will navigate to that directory07:21
somsipdevnull_: you mean Elementary? Enlightment is a wm (and stuff) AFAICT. Still, I'm on awesome too so makes no difference to me07:21
dr_willisenlightment has slowly grown into a desktop. but i find it.. lacking. ;)07:21
devnull_somsip, yea something like that ... havne't kept up on it in awhile ... since compiz i haven't seen a need for the effects of enlightenment07:22
somsipdevnull_: agreed, and must get back to work and on topic...07:22
devnull_somsip, i hear ya ... i am procrastinating07:22
devnull_time to make the phps do that thing they do07:23
kylescottmcgillya imma brb good luck WeThePeople07:23
WeThePeoplethanks07:23
eos_dr_willis: even with the new user, if I log in I have the same problem .... it crashes again07:23
dr_williseos_:  that is weird.  you are using gimp from the default repos?07:24
eos_dr_willis: yes07:24
devnull_anyone have any idea on how to get my quad speakers plus subwoofer to work in 12.10 ?  i have no subwoofer and only 2 channels07:24
eos_dr_willis: did you see the log file I posted by any chance? I cannot make sense of it07:25
hackinblackSooo Is ubuntu mobile going to be able to be installed on existing phones say if there unlocked rooted etc. On android?07:25
dr_williseos_:  it ment very little to me.. warnings then a segfault07:25
dr_willishackinblack:  we dont know07:25
devnull_hackinblack, i haven't read anything ... but i would imagine it is being targetted at newer devices07:25
eos_dr_willis: what is the best way to debug?07:25
dr_willistheres no real details out about it hackinblack07:26
devnull_i guess people forget there was linux based phones over 12 years ago07:26
dr_williseos_:  theres debugging/strace tools  but ive never used them07:26
hackinblackWell that sucks I just saw the video :(07:26
devnull_hackinblack, yea im excited to ... we will have to wait :(07:26
dr_willishackinblack:  and it may be a year+ befor you get your hands on one07:26
hackinblackDevnull 12 years ago I was playing with toys lol07:27
devnull_hackinblack, haha ... your the second person to say that today07:27
devnull_someone called me old because i have been using linux since 98 and that was when they were born07:27
maqrdevnull_: we are old07:28
dr_willisget off my lawn!07:28
dr_willis;)07:28
maqryeah!07:28
hackinblackLol dev07:28
Xabsterdevnull_: to 14 year olds everyone with pubes are old07:28
devnull_i suppose ... im only 28  ... you hooligans07:28
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Xabstertake no offense07:28
hackinblackI'm 19 wasn't much into technology 12 years ago07:29
dr_willisthese days 6 yr olfs got their own cellphones07:29
Ben64ubuntu phone :|07:29
dr_willisand 100000 friends on facebook07:29
hackinblackIt's insane07:30
Ben64but i like android...07:30
kionDroid rocks07:30
maqrandroid is pretty sweet, i'm not sure what the deal with ubuntu phone is07:30
devnull_well your lucky you are coming to linux now ... it is a lot easier now than back then07:30
dr_willisive seen so much hype and vaporware  - so i will wait and see...07:30
maqrkion: *cringe* don't use the motorola branding :(07:30
devnull_i remember waiting for usb support in the kernel07:30
hackinblackYea android is the best in my opinion but I'm excited for ubuntu07:30
eos_dr_willis: thanks a lot, have to go!07:30
Ben64i don't see the point of ubuntu phone07:30
dr_willispeople dident see the point in smartphonnnes a few years back07:31
hackinblack^07:31
Ben64but we all already have smart phones07:31
Ben64and we chose either android or apple, and we have apps and everything for whichever platform07:32
devnull_Ben64, i wouldn't mind giving ubuntu a try on a phone07:32
hackinblackI'm on my smartphone right now lol using android irc07:32
devnull_your forgetting about blackberry ... which is dying07:32
dr_willisand  no longer need other devices like mp3 players and tomtoms...   ubuntu phone could eliminate your laptop.07:32
Ben64my phone already eliminated my laptop07:32
wachpwnskiIs there any reason ZFS-FUSE is spawned as a process many times on my box?07:32
dr_willisircing from my phone also07:32
hackinblackIdk about eliminate with me I will always fall back to a laptop or desktop.07:32
kionCan someone explain me what Zeitgheist process is?07:33
Ben64my phone has fast internet everywhere in the country07:33
Ben64!info zeitgeist07:33
ubottuzeitgeist (source: zeitgeist): event logging framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.5-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 33 kB07:33
kion!info is that a command???07:33
ubottu'that' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable07:33
dr_williskion:  a  system/user ussage logger/data toool to show you what files you have been working on07:33
dr_williscan show you how many hrs you hav e been using this or that app. or other things07:34
kiondr_willis: Can it be used to spy on people? Should I uninstall it?07:35
dr_williskion:  should be online guides about it.07:35
dr_willisits handy in some cases07:35
niparCan anyone recommend a nice way of running a windows VM inside ubuntu, so I can make a switch of OS and still have the few vital windows services running?07:37
dr_willis'switch of os' meaning?07:37
niparI want to be on ubuntu at all times07:37
dr_willisyou  can run windows in vbox.07:37
niparbut I have a few vital windows services I need, that keeps me from it07:38
dr_willissome apps may not run well. depending on the app07:38
niparWould this drag performance down a lot, if I had windows running in a vbox literally 24/7?07:38
dr_willisdepends on what its doing07:38
hackinblackDepends07:38
dr_willisand your specs07:38
niparonly one way to find out I guess07:39
niparbooting over to ubuntu, hopefully for the last time :l07:40
duliohow to ignore login/logout info here?07:41
somsipdulio: depends on your client07:41
duliosomsip: This is irssi07:41
hackinblackCheck settings07:42
duliohackinblack: ok,I'll try07:42
somsipdulio: I have mine in ~/.irssi/config but you can probably do it from /save config or whatever it is...07:42
somsipdulio: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html07:42
OerHekssomsip +107:43
duliosomsip: 3q07:43
kylescottmcgilldevnull_: inside Alsamixer, or amixer when you pick the card what do you get?07:43
kelvinellahi how to get weather applet to work?07:44
kelvinellai did this : sudo apt-get install indicator-weather07:44
kelvinellabut still no weather applet in 12.0407:44
devnull_kylescottmcgill, yea i have gone through all of that ... there is my hdmi out with nothing and my card with the standard mixers .. master, mic, pcm etc ..07:45
dr_willissay a neat alternative weather applet thing on the omgubuntu sites top 10 apps for 2012 list07:45
devnull_i can virtually bump it to 6 channels ... but still no sub07:45
kionkelvinella: did sudo apt-get install indicator-weather work?07:45
kylescottmcgilldevnull_: lame, i dont have surround, so im not sure sorry07:45
dulioit seems work. ^.^07:45
devnull_kylescottmcgill, well surround or not .. i would deal with just 3 channels ... f-left, f-right and lfe through sub would be nice07:46
kelvinellai mean i run sudo apt-get install indicator-weather it installs but how to add applet in 12.04??07:46
kelvinellacant right click on panel and add??07:46
devnull_kelvinella, try launching it from dash07:47
devnull_that status area has a new system for having apps on it07:47
kelvinellahttp://pastebin.com/SbtkMtss07:47
kionI upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now my google earth is gone!!! can someone tell me why???07:47
kelvinelladevnill, launch what?07:47
kelvinelladevnull_, launch what? how?07:48
AndroUser2Kino why did u update ?07:48
devnull_kelvinella, from the dash .... you using unity ?07:48
kelvinelladevnull_, oic07:49
kelvinelladevnull_, i still stuck in the gnome mindset07:49
devnull_kelvinella, i understand ... it takes a bit to get used to07:49
kelvinella/usr/bin/indicator-weather crash07:50
AndroUser207:50
kionAndroUser2: wanted to have the latest version of all the programs07:50
AndroUser207:50
devnull_from a terminal run indicator-weather07:50
mih1406Hi, Is can I setup Ubutnu One using the terminal only?07:51
kelvinellawhen i add location and click apply, it crashes07:51
shenhdexit07:51
devnull_kelvinella, did you launch it from the terminal07:51
kelvinellashould i pick google or yahoo weather?07:52
kelvinellai did that in dash07:52
devnull_idk07:52
devnull_do it from the term so you can see the output07:52
kelvinellawait07:52
kelvinellahow to run applet in terminal?07:53
devnull_indicator-weather07:53
devnull_just type the command and hit enter07:53
kionKevinella I since unity i had to get rid of that app because it kept crashing on my system07:53
kelvinellaTraceback (most recent call last):07:54
kelvinella  File "/usr/bin/indicator-weather", line 1883, in on_apply07:54
kelvinella    (location_code, location_details) = self.location.export_location_details()07:54
kelvinella  File "/usr/bin/indicator-weather", line 405, in export_location_details07:54
kelvinella    return (self.location_code, self.location_details)07:54
FloodBot1kelvinella: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:54
kelvinellaAttributeError: Location instance has no attribute 'location_code'07:54
kelvinellasorry07:54
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devnull_kelvinella, is the location code supposed to be in weather format ?07:54
kelvinella?07:55
devnull_like in code07:55
devnull_you have to find out the code for the location you want07:55
ikla_is ubuntu hard to install07:55
devnull_ikla_, no07:55
ikla_I'm thinking about trying it out07:55
ihackeverythingUK no07:55
kionikla_ very simple07:55
devnull_ikla_, less clicks than windows i believe07:55
ihackeverythingYea also dual booting07:55
kionikla_ linux is the best OS, and Ubuntu is a great linux distro07:55
ikla_why is it the best07:55
kionikla_ highly recommended07:56
devnull_kelvinella, they use a number format i believe to identify locations07:56
kelvinellaso it doesnt work?07:56
ikla_hmm07:56
ikla_do I download the iso image07:56
ikla_can it fit on cdr?07:56
kionikla_ because it allows me to controll my hardware exactly as I want and because of the huge amounts of software there is , not to mention the security etc?. I could go on and on..07:57
devnull_how do you pick your location for the weather app ? did you just type in a city and state or something ?07:57
devnull_because that isn't how it works07:57
kionIkla_: yes download your iso image burn it into a disk or usb and boot from there07:57
devnull_but i can not say if it will work after putting the correct code in ... it might not work at all either way07:57
devnull_ikla_, has to be a CD with atleast 750mb of space ... i suggest usb or dvd07:58
devnull_ubuntu has ditched trying to keep the images small enough to fit on most cds07:58
mohi666I'm trying to install a media center server on my Linux box to stream 1080P videos to my Google TV box. Any idea what server I should install?08:01
devnull_myth ?08:01
ikoniamohi666: it depends what your google TV box needs as a client08:02
HackinBlackFloodBot108:02
ikoniamohi666: I'd approach it from that viewpoint08:02
HackinBlackFloodBot108:02
mohi666ikonia, I know there's an app that supports DLNA out of the box08:02
mohi666however, I may end up having videos in different format. I'm not too sure if it can play all of them08:03
devnull_dlna might work08:03
ikoniamohi666: there are many, hence why it I'd check what your client needs08:03
devnull_are you pushing to the googletv box or pulling08:03
mohi666devnill, I have all the movies stored in my linux server08:04
mohi666devnill, that's why I'm trying to push them to google tv box08:04
devnull_so to googletv does it see your computer as like a mass storage or something ?08:04
Xabsterthe image i have is ~770 MB - is there a DVD image with additional drivers and stuff?08:05
Xabsterfor a live cd08:05
Xabster/dvd08:05
mohi666devnill, I haven't installed any file server or DLNA on my linux box, yet. That's why google tv cannot see anything yet08:05
devnull_so maybe streaming isn't the correct term08:06
salehhi08:07
HackinBlack(saleh) hi08:08
salehcan you help me ?08:09
HackinBlackAsk Ur question08:09
devnull_idk08:09
devnull_mohi666, plex ??08:09
krofnaI have a problem... I tried to install fglrx drivers, and since they didn't work well, I wanted to revert back to xorg open source drivers, but after removing fglrx I am stuck on login screen (After login it puts me back on login screen), I replaced lightdm with gdm and it (kind of) fixed the issue, but after login I get bunch of system errors (compiz and x crash). WHat should I do?08:10
mohi666devnill, I forgot to mention that I may try to access the content on my tablet as well.08:10
devnull_mohi666, plex looks promising and there is an app for ios/android and apps for most tv boxes including googletv08:10
salehi have problem with nvidia geforce gt 540 m -08:11
salehi a have problem with nvidia geforce gt 540 m -08:11
devnull_krofna, reinstall fglrx08:11
mohi666devnill, plex is not in official Arch Linux repository :( I try to avoid those packages08:11
TranshumanistSame08:11
krofnadevnull_ Why? fglrx seem to perform horribly and buggy08:11
TranshumanistAnd when I did install Plex, it was kind of shit. Seemed very proprietary.08:12
devnull_krofna, because you will get back to your desktop ... then you can revert the correct way08:12
fwp2kdo you choice sailfishos or ubuntu08:12
devnull_why do you care about arch linux repo08:12
TranshumanistPlex isn't in Ubuntu's repos either08:12
Transhumanistyou have to add its repo manually08:13
TranshumanistI don't trust it, its direction, or the authors08:13
mohi666devnill, Because plex is in Arch User Repository. I have to manually maintain it, if I install it from there08:13
TranshumanistHe's talking about the fact that this is #ubuntu I think :)08:13
devnull_they have the debs right on their site08:13
mohi666Transfusion, true, but Linux is Linux.08:14
devnull_Transhumanist, yes08:14
Transhumanistagreed - I don't care :)08:14
devnull_because at first it sounded like you were asking in the wrong channel when you said arch linux08:14
mohi666I rather install software that is in my OS official repo08:14
devnull_as would i08:14
devnull_but if options are limited it is what it is08:15
blueoil22ciao08:15
TranshumanistAnyway, it might be worth considering xbmc for an alternative to Plex.08:15
devnull_whats xbmc08:16
mohi666Yeah, I'm going to give a try to xbmc08:16
donnie_I forgot the terminal command to find out what version of linux I'm using08:17
Transhumanistdevnull: xbmc originally stood for "Xbox Media Centre". It has since become completely cross-platform and is fully open source. Now it has little to do with XBox. But it's in the Ubuntu repos and is recommended for media management by a lot of people08:17
Transhumanisthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBMC08:17
devnull_uname -a08:18
devnull_Transhumanist, cool08:18
devnull_im thinking about getting a roku box08:18
donnie_I need to one for finding out what ubuntu I'm running, 10, 11,... I do forget that08:18
HackinBlackYou can don't need terminal to see what version u have to go too settings08:19
TranshumanistI've just set up an old laptop as a server (low energy consumption). Set up smb sharing on it, installed XBMC, plugged into TV, turned laptop's monitor off.08:19
TranshumanistAlso installed Deluge so other computers can get the laptop to do torrents via the web client08:19
Tex_Nickdonnie : lsb_release -a08:20
devnull_nice one tex08:20
techouseis there a way i could xzip a file over ssh from the server to my local machine without making an xz file first on the server?08:23
biopytehi, i'm using gnome classic + compiz on ubuntu 12.04.  is there a way navigating through the desktop wall just by touching the edges with mouse? right now i can switch workspaces only using keys or the workspace switcher in the status bar. edge flipping on mouse contact would be very helpful.08:23
techousesort of "pipe" it via xzip to my machine08:23
duliobiopyte, yea, I like classic too08:24
duliobiopyte, I like edge flipping08:25
devnull_biopyte, yes it is in compiz08:25
devnull_or in a tweaks program08:25
devnull_do you have compiz settings manager08:25
biopyteyes,08:25
biopytebut which setting?08:25
devnull_biopyte, find desktop wall .. bindings08:26
duliodevnull_, the feature comes from compiz?08:26
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biopyteok ... and then?08:26
Tex_Nicktechouse : would something like this work ... tar -cvf files | (cd target_directory ; tar -xpf)08:26
devnull_desktop wall -> bindings08:27
devnull_im on 12.10 so i have a crippled compiz config manager08:27
biopytedevnull, got it ... then change what setting?08:27
devnull_well go to the edge flipping tab first .. and activate what you want08:27
biopytei tried several before already08:27
devnull_let me reread your question .. hold on08:28
biopytedevnull, that doesnt make flipping on mouse touch08:28
devnull_its supposed to08:29
devnull_try looking for ubuntu tweak or something like that08:29
biopyteok, thx08:29
devnull_try the viewport switcher in compiz08:29
devnull_viewport switcher -> desktopbased viewport switching08:30
devnull_i have mine to scroll through desktop but they have the option for using edges of the screen .. you can go left right up and down08:31
HackinBlackUbuntu tweak08:31
devnull_hackinblack knows where its at08:32
devnull_though in 12.10 there is a lot missing in compiz settings manager08:33
techouseTex_Nick, yea if it were local, but dunno if i can put ssh remote location into the pipe08:33
Xabster"Want to download via BitTorrent links, get DVD images with more language packs, use the text-based alternate installer or find previous versions of Ubuntu?"08:33
Xabsterthose DVD sized images are nowhere to be found08:33
dr_willisXabster: what release?08:34
niparAnyone up for helping me getting USB to work on virtualbox?08:34
Xabster12.1008:34
Xabsterdesktop08:34
Tex_Nickdevnull : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins08:34
dr_willis12.10 is only on a dvs08:34
dr_willisdvd08:34
devnull_Tex_Nick, thanks08:34
devnull_i forgot i had done that on my old machine08:35
devnull_Tex_Nick, much better now :) :)08:35
dr_willis12.10 no longer has the alt installer disk either08:35
Tex_Nicktechouse : how about this ... tar -cvf files | ssh remote_host (cd target_directory ; tar -xpf)08:35
blueoil22ciao08:36
MotoservoUgh. I need linux on my Mac for an old scanner I need to run. After four days of trying to install Ubuntu I've mostly got it up save for two last issues. I can only boot through Recovery Mode, when I boot right into Linux I end up with a purple screen with some off video streaks. But after Recovery mode it will make it to the GUI just fine. Any tips on what's going on?08:36
HackinBlackHuh mac08:36
techousevirtualbox?08:36
techousevmware?08:36
Tex_Nickdevnull : you're welcome08:36
techousewhy not those :P08:36
MotoservoNo virtual box.08:36
Motoservojust installed it onto an external drive.08:37
devnull_Motoservo, sounds like the graphics weren't set right in the kernel boot options possibly08:37
techouselol08:37
niparon 12.10, I have added my username to the usergroup vboxusers - this supposively should enable me to mount USB in virtualbox. However, vbox returns error and persists I should enable my username in the vboxusers group. Anyone got a clue of whats not working as intended?08:37
HackinBlackUr first problem is its on a mac08:37
Xabsterdr_willis, but where are the larger images with more languages and stuff?08:38
kionyes macs suck08:38
kionunfortunately I have one08:38
MotoservoAny idea how I can fix that, devnull_?08:38
dr_willisXabster:  no idea08:38
elferi dont like macs08:38
HackinBlackU should always build Ur own08:38
MotoservoWell, I can't disagree more, Kion. Four days trying to install an OS is my idea of suck.08:38
devnull_you can try adjusting gfxmode in grub.cfg08:39
EaglemanWhere can i find a copy of the default file in /etc/apache2/sites-avaible  ?08:39
MotoservoI didn't come here for a bunch Mac bashing. But I suppose that's what the Linux community has to offer.08:39
devnull_get it to just do text instead of framebuffer08:40
dr_willisrecovery mode works fine?08:40
devnull_yes08:40
MotoservoYes, it works.08:40
biopytedevnull, i changed desktop-based-viewport-switching-mouse-left to <left edge> button1. still no switching on pointer contact.08:40
dr_willisrecovery uses nomodeset i think08:40
dr_willisand tuens off  the fremabufffer08:41
HackinBlackI'm sure you can always go to a mac irc and have them help you08:41
dr_willisturns08:41
devnull_why would you set it like that08:41
devnull_button1 requires a click08:41
devnull_just use the edge08:41
dr_willis!nomodeset08:41
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:41
devnull_thanks dr_willis that is what i was reaching for08:41
MotoservoHow can I set that on the regular boot, dr_willis?08:41
devnull_Eagleman, get it from the package08:42
nearstMotoservo, /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub08:42
Eaglemandevnull_, i always forget i have rsnapshot running, sorry08:42
dr_willisMotoservo:  if its using grub.. see above08:42
biopytedevnull, button1 is default, alternatives are button 2 - 20,  no other option besides button x08:42
Motoservothanks, nearst08:42
MotoservoYes, using grub.08:42
biopytedevnull, even clicking doesnt work, anyway08:43
devnull_biopyte, i see ... disable that binding for now08:44
biopytedevnull, ok08:44
devnull_ill see if i can find one that just uses edges08:45
biopytealright08:45
biopytealternativly, i could install brightside, but that conflicts with compiz08:46
devnull_desktop wall looks like the only other spot08:46
devnull_ubuntu tweak08:46
HackinBlackhttp://ubuntu-tweak.com/08:47
angryWolfHello all08:47
devnull_dang it .. something grabbed my left edge binding08:48
angryWolfis there a german ubuntu help channel?08:48
Tex_Nick!de | angryWolf08:48
ubottuangryWolf: In den meisten Ubuntu-KanƤlen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. FĆ¼r deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke fĆ¼r Dein VerstƤndnis!08:48
nearsthi angryWolf08:48
HackinBlack!de08:49
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-KanƤlen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. FĆ¼r deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke fĆ¼r Dein VerstƤndnis!08:49
nrosvallHi08:49
alimjangryWolf: Wir vershtehen nur Bahnhof !!!08:49
nearst0,008:49
non-anyone know a little about bzip208:50
nearstwhy?08:50
biopytedevnull, what do you mean 'ubuntu tweak'? i cant find such a package.08:50
nrosvallI'm a long time Windows developer and I'm just about to start developing an application for Ubuntu. Now with this new Ubuntu Phone and coming Ubuntu sdk. Is it still recommened to use gtk and python as mentioned in developer.ubuntu.com? Or should I go for c++ and qt? Or is it just too early to think about the phone?08:50
HackinBlackIch liebe dich08:51
OerHeksnon-, ask your real question and find out08:51
nearst!ubuntu-tweak08:51
dr_willisbiopyte:  find the ubuntu-tweak homepage08:51
devnull_there is gtk++08:51
biopytedr_willis, ok08:51
HackinBlackhttp://ubuntu-tweak.com/08:51
angryWolfMaybe it will work in english too. I have a problem with "dvdauthor"  <ERR:  no video format specified for VMGM> I Use KDE Plattform-Version 4.8.5 (4.8.5) on a Linux 3.2.0-35-generic x86_6408:51
non-haha ok thanks <Derheks> So I had a problem updating Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - I'm trying to download the Android SDK bundle08:51
nearstpython rules08:51
non-I need to replace the bzip2 file in /usr/lib/apt/methods08:52
HackinBlackBiopyte08:52
nrosvallpython rules yes, but it seems that the phone will support qt5 and qml, nothing said about python08:52
biopytegot it, its not in the standard repositories08:53
non-so I downloaded the tar.gz and moved it into the /usr/lib/apt/methods folder (after deleting bzip2) but do not know which file to put back in, there is an entire directory there... <DerHeks>08:53
abriganhello. what channel about programming X11 graphical?08:54
blueoil22ciao08:54
OerHeksnon-, i don't understand why you need to replace bzip2, what manual/howto are you using ?08:54
* dr_willis ducks the !list08:54
non-<DerHeks> Bzip2 was unexpectedly dying - stopped me from updating08:55
laze1989As they are using QML/Qt and C++ in the native application devkit for Ubuntu Phone, is Ubuntu moving towards QML/Qt for the desktop, too? I know there is a point about a Ubuntu Devkit for the Desktop for 13.04.08:56
alimjangryWolf: It has been a long time since last time I used dvdauthor. The error appears to be related to PAL/NTSC setting. I believe that you may find answer to most questions on videohelp.com08:56
nrosvalllaze1989, I was just wondering the same thing08:57
abriganHelp pls withprogramming graphics. I have many lines. And i have some *.xpm image (line color), that i need to get on the line. With horizontal line it's easy. Read *.xpm image to pixmap, set GC, set tile with this pixmap and draw line with this GC. But when line is rotated - there is problems. I need that pixmap rotated too. I'm rotate pixmap with bresenham algorithm and set gc with new pixmap. And it's no worked. Painted incorrect. How I can do this, wi08:57
abriganth standart library (xlib)? Thx.08:57
devnull_abrigan, wrong channel ...try a channel for the language you are using first08:58
rasanen7What's a good MTA for forwarding *some* email to my ISPs mail servers, while keeping others local (like the default install is I guess, for reports and stuff)? I'd also like to avoid keeping plain text passwords in a file anywhere08:58
elferyeah videohelp is a great site... not sure how much they support linux tho08:58
angryWolfthank you alimj.  I have read about a file at /.config/Video_Format with a "PAL" in it. used it to be a text file or will i need another extension?08:58
non-<DerHeks> I guess it's the .c file in the directory, I'll try figure this one out...08:59
alimjangryWolf: I believe that you have to edit the main XML project file. Some tags should be added there. I am not sue where.09:00
alimjangryWolf: I am trying to remember09:02
isildur!ita09:02
angryWolfvery kind... i wait09:02
isildurwhat is italian channel?09:03
alimjangyWolf: Did you try this? "export VIDEO_FORMAT=PAL"09:03
angryWolfi know the tag should be a "PAL" in my aerea. It is important to find the main xml file.09:03
Eagleman!it09:03
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi Ā« /join #ubuntu-it Ā» senza virgolette)09:03
nearst!it | isildur09:04
ubottuisildur: please see above09:04
alimjangryWolf: Or in the main XML file, in the <video> tag, there should be format="pal"09:05
biopyteHackinBlack, ubuntu-tweak, found it, thx09:05
angryWolfBut where is those xml file?  The answers will be right for sure.09:06
alimjangryWolf: It has been long long ago, I switched to MP4 for all of my videos. Do not have a DVD anymore. I could not fully remember...09:06
nearst:(09:07
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alimjangryWolf: This may help a little: http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/doc/dvdauthor.html09:07
elferwaz wrong nearst09:08
alimjangryWolf: If you are not comfortable to create XML files, there are always GUIs available09:09
nearstelfer, nope. just wonder why my eeepc hang at booting.09:09
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alimjangryWolf: Something like: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVDStyler09:09
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GodWhat09:10
Kartagis!xen09:14
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen09:14
cousteaujust saw someone watching a video of "ubuntu for phones"09:14
thomedyhey ihave a question.. i made a php app and it is full detail.. js, php, mysql, html, css its all great.. then i tar it... and untar it.. it breaks...09:14
thomedywhat is that09:14
devnull_hehe ... lost my left edge exposure of dock menu ... fun fun09:14
cousteauthomedy, where do you untar it?09:14
thomedyin the original position.. i dont even know why i u ntared it.. i just did and found out09:15
biopytedevnull, don't blame me ...;-)09:15
thomedythe error... i have no idea what is going on09:15
Bsimswhat is the best way to keep a few files in sync across windows and linux09:17
jrtappersBsims, Dropbox09:18
nextusdropbox))09:18
jrtappersif you need it over lan then FTP/SCP09:18
dr_willis!info unison09:18
ubottuunison (source: unison): file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.40.65-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 616 kB, installed size 1690 kB09:18
jrtappersI use an ssh tunnel for all sorts09:19
BsimsHrm... unison looks reasonable <g>09:19
devnull_biopyte, got it back ... had to restart unity .. unity --replace09:19
jrtappersWhat are the best ubuntu games, I know a gamer who is trying ubuntu for the first time.09:19
biopytedevnull, i see, no unity here, still one plain old gnome classic09:20
dr_willisjrtappers:  many of the humble bundle games have native linux games09:20
dr_willisjrtappers:  and it depends on the kind of game09:20
Ben64also steam now too09:21
Xabsteralready? don't you mean soon?09:21
dr_willisthen theres steam.. it had a few lastt i looked. ;)09:21
Xabsterjrtappers: openttd09:21
Ben64its in open beta09:21
jrtappersthanks, is there a way to add terminal as a window manager choice?09:22
dr_willisjrtappers:  alt-ctrl-f1 to get to a console ;) you mean?09:22
dr_willisyou can make custome x session desktops if you want09:23
jrtappersAs in at the greeter screen, to have an option in the list for terminal09:23
dr_willisor use a tiny window manager like jwm and launch some terms09:23
Ben64you can open a terminal any time you want09:24
dr_willisrunning xterm with no window manager would be annoying09:24
Ben64yeah09:24
Bsimsjrtappers: it sounds like you are wanting awesome or something like that09:24
jrtappersWhat channel is xchat support?09:25
dr_willis!alis09:25
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*09:25
dr_willis i would guess #xchat09:26
God#xchatsup09:27
f1a qustion what is this channel09:28
f1?09:28
jrtappersthis is #ubuntu09:28
f1what is #ubuntu09:28
f1?09:28
jrtappers* Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only), 10.04 LTS, 11.10, 12.04 LTS and 12.1009:29
jrtappers* Topic for #ubuntu set by IdleOne!~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone at Sun Oct 28 23:59:21 201209:29
f1jrtappers ok channel for what09:29
f1?09:29
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shphi, what's the name of the calculator by default on ubuntu please?09:30
devnull_f1 for ubuntu09:30
shp?09:30
shpi'm not on ubuntu09:30
shpi just want the soft name09:30
devnull_gnome-calculator09:31
jrtappersshp, the name or the terminal command?09:31
shpthank you devnull_09:31
f1lol it is system like window or linux09:31
f1?09:31
jrtappersf1, ubuntu is a linux distro09:31
f1ok so u are all freaks09:32
f1hehe09:32
devnull_f1 linux    ubuntu.com09:32
devnull_ugg09:32
voxcroixf1: what is f1?09:32
voxcroixf1: is that formula 109:32
jrtappersf1, this statement is false09:32
Myrttimove on, he is gone09:33
jrtappersThe troll is slain09:33
voxcroixlol09:33
jrtappershow do I get Xchat to make ubuntu notifys when my nickname is mentioned, #Xchat seems quiet09:34
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devnull_you will see the icon wiggle above the launcher normally i believe09:35
Prodegoeh on windows it is under settings -> alerts09:35
Prodegoprobably roughly similar for the linux version09:35
jrtapperscan someone plz mention my nickname so I can test the popup09:36
* devnull_ slaps jrtrappers09:36
Prodegojrtappers: probably would have been better to ask #freenode09:37
Prodegofwiw09:37
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roothi09:39
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Guest7491okies/..09:40
vltHello. On Ubuntu 12.04 I created a RAID10 on six disks of equal size. Is it possible to replace only two disks of them by larger ones and increase the available space of the the array? Or do I need to split the array into a four disk RAID10 and a two disk RAID1? (Or is there another way?)09:40
devnull_hello superuser09:40
psychopathicI love you.09:43
testerHello All!!09:43
devnull_im flattered09:44
psychopathicCan we make baby's.09:44
devnull_i am a robot09:44
psychopathicI am a atom.09:44
cousteaupsychopathic, hello, Tom09:45
Myrttikeep to Ubuntu sypport, please09:45
cousteaugood idea09:45
Myrttisupport even09:45
testerHow to check the reception of the console video stream from an external source multicasting?09:46
devnull_what09:47
devnull_vlt ... idk09:47
ANubhey............my wifi connection dies if i put on torrent downloading / uploading and does not recover untill i restart my laptop....i'm using 12.04 and machine is DEll latitude E641009:48
ANubany ideas..?09:49
devnull_anub hello ... do you know the specs on the wireless device09:49
jrtappersANub, home wifi?09:49
ANubi think so09:49
ANubyes its home WiFi09:49
mrecupdating from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10. Gnome shell does not work properly, and as usual the mouse is misconfigured again (no tapping works)09:49
ufkcan anyone recommend me of a good wiki engine? there are way too many out there09:50
mrecI wonder how much pot they smoke at ubuntu to permanently, always break the mouse after an update since the very first day on09:50
devnull_mrec, what does not work with gnome shell09:50
mrecapplications don't show up in the taskbar at the bottom09:50
lerous@ufk how about mediawiki?09:50
jrtappersCan anyone help with my touchpad, HP Pavilion dm1, no rightclick09:50
devnull_mrec, unity desktop ?09:50
jrtappersRightclick is not recognised as a button09:51
ufklerous, i love mediawiki! but i know it for years now. nothing new came up? :)09:51
rino_If you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial09:51
tester I use a VLC to view the multicast. I want to write a script that will check the receiving multicast stream on PC09:51
rino_http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems09:51
rino_how is it possible?09:51
FloodBot1rino_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:51
rino_does it mean ubuntu won't use xorg on the phone version of the os?09:51
ANubive uploaded the output of "sudo lshw -c network" over here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491425/09:51
ufklerous, i'm glad that you said mediawiki!! installing it!09:51
devnull_jrtrappers ... in what09:51
jrtappersdevnull_, ubuntu09:52
mrecdevnull_: gnome309:52
mrecI'd not use unity09:52
jrtappers*, I have to make two finger clicking rightclick to make it usable09:52
jrtappersrino_, same kernel09:52
devnull_mrec ... does the bottom panel do anything09:53
rino_jrtappers: same kernel, but oem needs different userland drivers if ubuntu is using xorg09:53
ANubhey............my wifi connection dies if i put on torrent downloading / uploading and does not recover untill i restart my laptop....i'm using 12.04 and machine is DEll latitude E641009:53
ANubive uploaded the output of "sudo lshw -c network" over here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491425/09:53
nextblovehello am upset regarding how to block user to access flash drive when the logging into ubuntu server.09:53
jrtappersrino_, It encourages oems to join, and that is good09:53
vltdevnull_: I think Iā€™ll try before by creating a RAID of several virtual block devices and see ā€¦ :-)09:54
mrecdevnull_: only the desktop selection works09:54
lerousufk, :) nothing new in wiki zone I heard for a while :809:54
mrecthat is in the bottom panel09:54
devnull_vlt ... read up on it09:54
devnull_vlt ... i am not sure how raid works completely so i am not sure if you can just increase your array that way09:54
jrtappersCan anyone help with my touchpad, HP Pavilion dm1, no rightclick, mouse settings doesn't see the button09:55
devnull_mrec can you right click on the bottom menu ?09:55
mrecdevnull_: nope09:55
devnull_jrtappers, working on it09:55
devnull_mrec can you right click on the desktop switcher ?09:55
lerousufk, I google it found a wiki engine named MoinMoin based on python, looks good09:56
mrecdevnull_: yes09:56
XabsterHi, I booted into the live CD usb and it appears everything works as it should except my GFX card - can I load drivers for my card while using the live CD to test if it will work after install_09:56
jrtappersXabster, it should work, but live CD changes are losst on reboot09:57
jrtappersXabster, s anything that needs a reboot wont wor09:57
devnull_mrec .. just trying to see if you can find a spot to add to that panel and add the taskbar area09:58
Xabsterjrtappers: right, got an idea how i can install those drivers_ last time i used ubuntu there was a @proprietary driver dialog that fixed it for me09:58
jrtappersXabster, additional drivers09:58
dr_willisXabster: whats yourvideo chipset09:58
Xabsterit\s a HD 687009:58
Xabsterjrtappers: no such menu in settings09:59
jrtappersXabster, search "add" in the launcher, it will come up09:59
devnull_radon ?09:59
dr_willisyou could do a full install to a flash as a test Xabster09:59
devnull_radion09:59
Xabsterradeon10:00
Xabsteryes10:00
devnull_radeon10:00
nextblovehello am upset regarding how to block user to access flash drive when the logging into ubuntu server.10:00
XabsterRadeon HD 687010:00
Xabsterbut i dont see an @additional driver@ menu anywhere10:00
devnull_what doesn't work at the moment with it ?10:00
Xabsterdash doesnt find any matches on driver, and its not in settings10:01
dr_willisnextblove:  we arer a support channel  not a complaint channel10:01
jrtappersXabster, search "add" in dash10:01
devnull_xabster ... software sources10:01
Xabsteri can hear my GFX cards fans are spinning mad cause its rendering 3D with the 2D portion10:01
mrecdevnull_: that's it thanks10:01
jrtappersXabster, Additional Drivers should come up10:01
mrecalt-right mouse key added it10:02
mrecnow only the desktop is missing ^^10:02
devnull_mrec, what is missing from the desktop10:02
mreceverything cannot even create new icons10:02
nextblovedr_willis i dont mind10:02
devnull_mrec .... ps ax | grep nautilus10:03
h1_re.10:03
dr_willisre?10:03
devnull_see if it is running10:03
jrtappersXabster, how is it now?10:03
mrecdevnull_: not running, but also if I start it it won't make the background icons show up10:04
h1_werwerwer10:04
jrtappersdevnull_, What happening RE: touchpad?10:05
devnull_jrtappers, looking10:05
devnull_jrtappers, does it have seperate buttons for left and right click or is it just touch areas on the pad ?10:08
jrtappersSepperate buttons, but ubuntu only recognises one10:08
L0kibuntu-uk10:08
jrtapperswho is furthest from GB?10:09
devnull_jrtappers, was this fresh install ?10:10
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SoWhatHi! Is the same chanel for UbuntuPhone?10:11
aeon-ltdSoWhat: no10:11
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aeon-ltdSoWhat: i doubt support is very large for something announnced today10:11
devnull_jrtappers, can you click the bottom right corner of the touchpad and get a right click ?10:11
jrtappersdevnull_, No, it thinks I leftclicked10:12
devnull_but the two touch method works ?10:12
SoWhataeon-ltd: there must be some support10:12
jrtappersyes, I set two touch as rightclick10:12
jrtappersThe mouse settings only sees one button10:13
MyrttiSoWhat: are you running it already and need support? if not, then begin at #ubuntu-discuss10:14
NeoColossusHello all10:14
SoWhatMyrtti: thanks!10:14
zhaozhouI'm trying to install Ubuntu on my relatively new Thinkpad laptop, but Ubiquity is giving me some troubles. I'm stracing the application, but I can't make much sense out of the output. It tries to read from some memory location giving 'Resource temporarily unavailable'.10:15
devnull_xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | grep -i capabilities10:15
zhaozhouCould I get any help in solving this?10:15
zhaozhouShould I, perhaps, try the alternative installation CD?10:15
jrtappersdevnull_, Synaptics Capabilities (300):   1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 110:16
root_hello10:16
NeoColossusHow do you store the output of grep search to a variable when grep searches for a pattern (stored in a variable) against a file (also stored in a variable)? Ex: var1=`grep -iq "$var2" "$var3"`10:17
zhaozhouroot_, You should probably try to not be root on IRC.10:17
NeoColossusWhen I try to echo $var1 back it shows empty10:17
root_my pictury10:18
root_37.237.74.3:1184110:18
root_http://37.237.74.3:1184110:18
MonkeyDustNeoColossus  better ask in #bash10:18
root_http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol10:19
NeoColossusOk10:19
root_ok10:19
blim_how do I go about setting the QoT on my client?10:19
root_yes10:19
root_pictury :  http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol10:19
rohdefwhere can I find an up to date list of wifi cards supported?10:19
ctrlzHi, how can i rotate the webcam in skype? I see it upside down. Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd here10:19
rohdefI'm looking at a PCI-E card with the Atheros AR9287 chipset10:20
rohdefTP-Link10:20
rohdef 10:20
rohdefTP-Link TL-WN881ND to be exact10:20
rohdefopps, sorry for the newlines, didn't see them :/10:20
zhaozhouroot_, A Java applet, huh? No way.10:20
blamiNeoColossus: you can run it in subshell10:21
blim_Does anyone know a guide on how to set the ToS (type of service) on a client os?10:21
root_my sister img : http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol10:21
root_http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol10:21
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roadfishgot an unformatted 3TB segate in a Bytecc enclosure. both "fdisk -l" and palimpsest show _two_ devices. /dev/sdg is 2.2GB and /dev/sdh is 0.8GB. any idea why I'm not just getting 3.0GB on /dev/sdg?10:22
root_http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol10:22
root_http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol10:22
Tex_Nickrohdef : http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/10:22
blamiroot_: could you stop this please?10:22
llutz!ops | root_  linkspam10:22
ubotturoot_  linkspam: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!10:22
root_hahah10:22
jrtappersllutz, what does that do?10:23
rohdefroadfish, not sure that fdisk shows a drive without a partition table10:23
barbadillohi all10:23
barbadilloI have a strange problem10:23
llutzjrtappers: just look at ubottus reply10:23
cfhowlett!details|barbadillo: state the issue10:23
ubottubarbadillo: state the issue: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:23
barbadillowhen I hit ctrl+F I get an xterm window10:23
elkyllutz, did you click it? is it "safe" to check?10:23
llutzelky: why should i10:23
barbadilloin any application in any desxktop environment10:23
elkyllutz, you don't need to, but i was wondering if you did, is all10:24
barbadilloit is annoying10:24
jrtappersllutz, does it give someone temporary permission to ban someone?10:24
roadfishrohdef:yeah, it does ... but you're sort-of-right because "fisk -l" says "Disk /dev/sdh doesn't contain a valid partition table"10:24
elkyjrtappers, no, it gets our attention10:24
barbadilloctrl+F is for searching stuff!!!10:24
rohdefTex_Nick, but that's complete computers :/10:24
jrtapperselky, thanks, just learning IRC10:24
SoWhat#ubuntu-discuss seems dead. Maybe some of you know if UbuntuPhone is able to use A-GPS ?10:24
llutzjrtappers: it just gets OPs attenttion on the nick mentioned10:24
barbadilloI have to use the mouse and the menu10:24
Helperhapsfhnfg10:25
Tex_Nickrohdef : sorry ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards10:25
elkyjrtappers, it's not a normal irc feature, it's a special irc user we set up to respond to triggers10:25
cfhowlett!ubuntu-mobile|sowhat10:25
barbadillothanks firefox for the slash, but the other applications they don't have the "/"10:25
elkyjrtappers, and remember, it's for emergencies only :)10:25
blamiTex_Nick: wasn't he looking for wifi adapter?10:25
llutzelky:  a line as" <root_> my sister img : http://....   "   is sign for spam enough to me :) i hope you don't get this as "ops-misuse"10:25
rohdefTex_Nick, and now for the wifi-cards :p10:25
Helperhapswhat is that10:26
devnull_jrtappers, i missed before ... upgrade or fresh install and when10:26
elkyllutz, sometimes it's nice to be able to tell providers if it's stuff that's... erm... illegal.10:26
Tex_Nickrohdef : jeeze i need to go to bed ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport10:26
rohdefTex_Nick, I know the feeling :)10:27
elkyturns out it needs plugins in firefox, so it's probably something pretty stupid ;)10:27
llutzelky: true but at least in DE its bit problematic with some sort of stuff (browser cache etc.) you know. so i tend not to click anywere10:27
llutzanywhere10:27
blamielky: he hosts java applet that tries to employ some sort of worm into browser cache using java zero day security issue10:27
jrtappersdevnull_, wubi fresh install a while ago, 12.04.110:28
rohdefTex_Nick, thanks :)10:28
jrtappersroot_ was probably using metasploit remove exploit10:28
devnull_jrtappers, so the right click just stopped working ?10:28
jrtappersdevnull_, never worked10:28
Tex_Nickrohdef : after ten try's i finally got ya a link ;)10:28
devnull_it works in windows ?10:28
elkyanyway, lets go back to as we were ;)10:29
jrtappersyh10:29
jrtappersdevnull_, yh10:29
SoWhatcfhowlett: thanks!10:30
cfhowlettSoWhat: sorry it's not active channel.10:31
jrtappersdevnull_, It was factory windows 7 so there may be drivers preinstalled10:31
roadfishhere's something weird: palimpsest says that my 3TB USB enclosure is a "multipath device".10:31
devnull_mrec ... see if you can get tweak tool or ubuntu tweak and see if there is an option for show desktop icons10:31
devnull_jrtappers, drivers or not ... just want to make sure it isn't an actual hardware problem10:32
jrtappersdevnull_, ok, its not hardware10:32
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jrtappersHow do I get a signal type from a USB 3G modem, i.e. EDGE/GPRS/HSPDA10:34
VivekanandaHello Everyone. Am on ubuntu lucid on a comcast network. Can someone tell me how to check the TCP or UDP timeouts that is provided by my ISP?10:37
devnull_jrtappers, might need to map that button10:39
jrtappersdevnull_, how?10:39
zhaozhouVivekananda, ISPs provide TCP/UDP timeout values?10:40
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jrtappersdevnull_, The trackpad does continue over the buttons, so if I could map an area to rightclick that would work nicely10:40
devnull_oh ... so they aren't seperated physical buttons ?10:41
blim_Does anyone know a guide on how to set the ToS (type of service) on a client os?10:41
zhaozhouVisigoth, is /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time what you are looking for?10:41
devnull_Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0" ... just need to find the file to add it to10:43
kristuhi10:43
Scanjet0hello?10:43
kristuhello10:43
jrtappersdevnull_, see the computer on the right http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dm1-old-vs-new-touchpad.jpg10:43
Scanjet0this actually works, awesome10:43
kristuhello scanjet10:43
jrtappersThe wonder of google images10:43
cfhowlettblim_: the folks at #ubuntu-server might know10:43
izxapt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF10:44
devnull_yea its just one big area ... that was what i was asking before .... just need to map those buttons10:44
Scanjet0You guys must know a lot about linux. Im still noobish.10:44
Scanjet0Could I ask some questions :P10:44
jrtappersWe are all still learnind10:44
jrtappers*learning10:44
cfhowlett!ask|Scanjet0:10:44
ubottuScanjet0:: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:44
kristuyes sk10:44
kristuask10:44
blim_cfhowleft: thanks10:44
Scanjet0Awesome, Thanks!10:45
Scanjet0Uhm, Im doing a study on hacking, hence I picked linux to do my OS with. What would you say is the best method of detecting hackings in Linux?10:46
Scanjet0(as a kind of anti-measure, knowledge is power:P)10:46
aeon-ltdScanjet0: your question didn't make sense10:46
zhaozhouScanjet0, What type of 'hacking' are you looking for?10:46
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MonkeyDustScanjet0  how legal is that?10:46
cfhowlettScanjet0: penetration testing is a whole topic that is more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic please.10:46
devnull_jrtappers, try coping /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10:46
jrtappersScanjet0, Xarp is useful for detecting arp cache poisoning10:46
Scanjet0its legal, I have consent (im hacking myself)10:46
Scanjet0Xarp, I will google that right away!10:47
jrtappersdevnull_,  then?10:48
jrtappersdevnull_, what next?10:50
devnull_logout and back in10:50
jrtappersok, il try10:50
ctrlzctrl10:50
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jrtappersdevnull_, still rightclick makes a leftclick10:52
izxapt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF10:52
devnull_jrtappers, that file was placed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ folder10:54
devnull_see if this command returns anything synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea10:54
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devnull_jrtappers, rename the file 10- instead of 50- at the beginning10:56
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Vivekanandazhaozhou:I am using Voip overinternet and I read that ISPs cut the connections after a certain inactivity time. I might have understood this all wrong guide me to enlightenment10:58
jrtappersdevnull_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491523/10:59
devnull_modify that file as so   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491529/11:01
zhaozhouVivekananda, All right... might be true, I just haven't heard of such a thing.11:01
kelvinellaWhen you select any of the menus in Nautilus they only display a very small blank rectangle under the menu item and do not open up into a sub-menu display.  how to fix?11:02
devnull_kelvinella, does this happen all the time or new problem11:02
kelvinellai never click the menu before until now11:03
kelvinellabecause i want to enable the status bar11:03
devnull_do other programs have functioning menus11:03
kelvinellaother programs have no problem11:03
Vivekanandazhaozhou: I dont know if this is a setting provided by my router or ubuntu itself on my computer or something the ISP provides. I just know that my voip reregister time when set to 100 or 120 secs works and does not drop calls but when set to higher like 900(as is advised for TCP as it is supposed to have a higher timeout value???) causes calls to drop. Is this something I set in ubuntu or ask my ISP(comcast ) for ?11:04
jrtappersdevnull_, that file currently reads http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491532/11:05
jrtappersbefore changes11:05
MonkeyDustVivekananda  try ##networking11:05
Vivekanandaok am going there :)11:06
jabba_hello11:06
VivekanandaMonkeyDust: is there something called #ubuntu networking11:06
cfhowlettjabba_: greetings.  FYI: Han shot first.  Poor Greedo.11:06
devnull_jrtappers, add this to that file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491534/11:06
cfhowlettVivekananda: there's #ubuntu-server ?11:06
jrtappersat the end?11:07
devnull_yea11:07
MonkeyDustVivekananda  type /msg alis list *network*11:07
MonkeyDustVivekananda  that is, with the asterisks11:08
jabba_i just setup a crypted partition (SR for a Xen-Server). and added it to the /etc/crypttab with the option "timeout=30". sadly the option seems to be ignored (as boot-process keeps going on) and i am not able to enter the passphrase at boot. anyone an idea what's wrong?11:08
jrtappersdevnull_, thanks that worked perfectly11:09
devnull_mrec, how goes it11:09
VivekanandaI am using Voip overinternet and I read that ISPs cut the connections after a certain inactivity time. I might have understood this all wrong guide me to enlightenment. I dont know if this is a setting provided by my router or ubuntu itself on my computer or something the ISP provides. I just know that my voip reregister time when set to 100 or 120 secs works and does not drop calls but when set to higher like 900(as is advise11:09
Vivekanandad for TCP as it is supposed to have a higher timeout value???) causes calls to drop. Is this something I set in ubuntu or ask my ISP(comcast ) for ?11:09
Vivekanandasorry11:09
Vivekanandaeveryone11:09
FloodBot1Vivekananda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:09
jrtappersone OS to rule them all, one OS to find them11:09
devnull_jrtappers, glad i it works ... might want to test out all the capabilities and make sure scrolling still works .... etc11:09
kelvinellaso anyone have problem with nautilus menu?11:09
MonkeyDustkelvinella  which ubuntu version? what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?11:10
devnull_kelvinella, unity ?11:10
jrtappersdevnull_, all good11:10
kelvinellaubuntu 12.04.111:10
MonkeyDustkelvinella  is it Unity or some other DE?11:11
devnull_jrtappers, if you need to ever modify those regions  .. man 4 synaptic ... i believe11:11
kelvinellaunity11:11
devnull_kelvinella, have you restarted unity yet ?11:11
devnull_had that type of issue with the gimp on my old laptop from time to time11:12
kelvinellawhat do u mean restart?11:12
kelvinellai am watching movie and webcaming i cant restart maybe later11:12
devnull_no not the whole computer ... just the window manager11:12
devnull_unity --replace11:13
jabba_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/46820811:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 468208 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "cryptsetup passphrase prompt at boot not working if waiting too long (w/o usplash)" [Undecided,Triaged]11:14
jabba_this bug is .... _old_11:14
jrtappersHow do I find the serial port of a usb 3g modem for at commands11:14
kelvinellai restart leter11:14
izxapt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF11:16
kelvinellai will run that unity --replace command later because i am downloading a movie it doesnt support resume11:16
kelvinellai dont wanna breaks the download11:16
MonkeyDustjabba_  is that ubuntu server?11:16
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jabba_MonkeyDust: yes11:17
jabba_12.0411:17
MonkeyDustjabba_  then better ask in #ubuntu-server11:17
jabba_ok11:17
cfhowlettMonkeyDust jabba_ sadly, #ubuntu-server is silent ...11:18
absurdum_22_34I used to have 15 desktops, and used the compiz wallpaper plugin to load a different wallpaper for each desktop.  That worked fine until I added more desktops and more wallpapers.  Each new wallpaper I add just shows up as a black screen.  Any ideas?11:18
jabba_cfhowlett: pretty... :(11:20
cfhowlettjabba_: sorry, mate.  wish I could help.  ##networking would seem to be your best bet ...11:21
varikonniemii have a problem with multimonitor setup.. i have my secondary screen on the left side. even if i set in xserver setting my other screen to be the primary monitor, applications launch in the left screen'11:21
DoingMyHeadInHelp please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .11:21
jrtappersHow do I get 3G modem signal with an AT command11:21
LudwigVonMisesis there a channel for ubuntu phone?11:21
varikonniemii must put my primary monitor logically on the left side to make it work, and then it is silly to go to the right edge of screen to acces monitor thats physically on left11:22
LudwigVonMisesI am really excited for that11:22
varikonniemiany solutions to this?11:22
cfhowlettLudwigVonMises: none that I could find.  #ubuntu-mobile is shuttered...11:22
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atlefvarikonniemi, i think it is possible to fix this with compis-settings-manager, but not entirely sure11:23
saviois ubuntu-mobile available for sale11:23
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savioworldwide?11:23
LudwigVonMisescfhowlett: Nevermind, ubuntu-phone11:23
absurdum_22_34I used to have 15 desktops, and used the compiz wallpaper plugin to load a different wallpaper for each desktop.  That worked fine until I added more desktops and more wallpapers.  Each new wallpaper I add just shows up as a black screen.  Any ideas?11:24
varikonniemiatlef, that program is scary11:24
MonkeyDustLudwigVonMises  some 50 people in #ubuntu-phone11:24
cfhowlett!ubuntu-phone savio11:24
cfhowlettsavio: ask in #ubuntu-phone11:24
atlefvarikonniemi, i know, to many settings11:24
CookieMit should be on sale at the end of this year11:24
varikonniemiits fun to fiddle around with, but not on a everyday computer11:25
saviocfhowlett, i just ask to see if anyone knows11:25
varikonniemimust be just a playbox/vm11:25
LudwigVonMisesMonkeyDust: considering no ##, Im assuming its the legit channel11:25
Xabsteri got help about 1.5 hours ago, about installing additional drivers (for my gfx card while booted up on a live cd - just to test that everything works) but i had to leave and didnt see the answer fully11:25
MonkeyDustLudwigVonMises  yes, it says: "If nobody is here use  http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/mobile"11:26
Xabsterdoes anyone have a log maybe or know how i can install it? i cant find the additional drivers dialog/menu11:26
jrtappersXabster, whats the status?11:26
Xabsteri had a guest11:26
Xabsterstatus is no progress11:26
jrtappersXabster, go to dash, and search for "Add", you shoudl see additional drivers11:26
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Xabsterits not there, i tried11:26
LudwigVonMisesMonkeyDust: Can't ubuntu mobile be refferring to the android app?11:26
jrtappersok, the other way11:27
atlefXabster, i think they suggested you install to a usb stick, not creating a "live USB" to test it out11:27
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Xabsterhmm, any idea of how much space is needed for that? the usb stick is 3.8 gb total11:28
MonkeyDustLudwigVonMises  yeah, but easiest would be to go and ask in #ubuntu-phone11:28
Xabsterand some is used for the live cd boot stuff - i have no cd rom11:28
jrtappersXabster, the easiest way to try ubuntu not on a live cd/usb is wubi11:28
Xabsterwubi?11:28
pablo__olbap11:28
cfhowlettjrtappers: or virtualbox11:28
Xabsteri did try virtualbox, but that doesnt answer the question of drivers11:29
Xabstersince its vbox generic drivers11:29
Xabsteri need to test that my real gfx driver actually works11:29
atlefcfhowlett, not if he needs to test if the driver for his gfx works, then vbox wont helpp11:29
atlef*help11:29
jrtappersthats why I said wub11:29
jrtappersXabster, go to terminal11:29
jrtappersand type "jockey-gtk"11:30
blimhow do i open the blacklist.conf and also how do I generate a list of audio interface so I can add to the blacklist my hdmi audio11:30
DoingMyHeadInHelp please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .11:30
jrtappersXabster, did that work, you should see additional drivers11:30
Xabstershould I install it, or just test if its installed? cause its not11:31
Xabstersudo apt-get install jockey-gtk right_11:31
blimI can open the blacklist file just need a command to list my audio interface names11:31
Xabster: Unable to locate package jockey-gtk11:32
tonycooswho11:32
atlefblim, try lspci in a terminal11:32
jrtappersXabster, it should be already installed11:34
wachpwnskiim getting some nasty kernel errors for my drive11:35
Porkepix Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems. I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?11:36
blimthat list my graphics card as a hole and not the hdmi sound, maybe I cant disable it this way11:36
nibbler_Porkepix: can you nopaste the output of the attempted build of the driver? what is the name of the driver?11:37
atlefblim, try lspci -v11:37
Porkepixnibbler_ : 1s, I'll directly connect to irc the right laptop, it'll be easier11:38
theoshey all! i plugged in my usb hdd and now i have no permissions on internal hdd partitions and files. what can be the solution?11:38
blimatlef: can i post the output of just the audio divice so you can see me what name I need to add to black list?11:38
atlef!pastebin | blim11:39
ubottublim: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:39
atlefthough not sure i can help11:39
theoshelp!11:40
Xabsterit told me though, that i could install it like that11:40
DoingMyHeadInHelp please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .11:40
dr_willistheos:  what FS is teh drive?11:40
atlefanyone else being disconnected from irc randomly?11:40
theosdr_willis fat32. i was trying to back up the data and format it to ext4 :/ but i dont have permissions now11:41
Porkepix2So, nibbler_, the driver is this one : http://www.dahetral.com/public-download11:41
dr_willistheos:  access it as root perhaps. or remount it with difernt options11:41
rgms&wc11:41
nibbler_theos: mount options to make it user owned, chown and chmod11:42
Porkepix2nibbler_: and here is the terminal log : http://privatepaste.com/5426f647d511:42
dr_willisyou normally dont chown/chmod ntf/vfat11:42
jrtappersXabster, try it, it should be already installed11:42
theosnibbler_ the fstab file has the same options as before. i remounted both drives but no help11:42
dr_willistheos:  what does mount say about its options11:43
theosdr_willis how to check those?11:43
dr_willisuse the mount command11:43
theosdr_willis rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100011:44
ctrlzHi, how can i rotate the webcam in skype? I see it upside down. Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd here11:44
dr_willistheos:  now see what your users UID is.11:44
theosdr_willis 1000?11:44
dr_willisyou sure?11:44
theosdr_willis how to check uid?11:45
dr_willis echo $UID11:45
Xabsterjrtappers: when i try it says not installed and that i can get it with sudo apt-get install etc11:45
theosdr_willis thanks. yes it is 100011:45
Xabstercopy/pasting the suggest command in terminal says not found11:45
Porkepix2nibbler_: I can change $LANG in terminal to have full english messages, but differences are really small11:46
dr_willistheos:  can you access it via the terminal? cd to its mountmoint and do a ls -l, see who owns what files11:46
blimatlef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491588/plain/11:46
BWMerlinis there a way I can add source forge as a repository so I can apt-get projects straight from there?11:46
nibbler_Porkepix2: i'm fine with the french(?) output... which package did you download?11:47
nibbler_Porkepix2: did you honour the first message this script is giving you? dkms_install_cp/symlink?11:47
Porkepix2nibbler_: the last, this one : http://www.dahetral.com/public-download/psmouse-alps-dst-1.2.tbz/view11:47
theosdr_willis all files are like this -> -rwxr-xr-x  1 myuser myuser11:47
atlefblim, i would think that 05:00.1 is the hw id of the hdmi, but not sure11:47
theosdr_willis maybe its not recognizing me as the user?11:48
dr_willistheos:  so you cant read or write there or what?11:48
blimatlef: would I need to add just [Radeon HD 6900 Series] to blacklist?11:49
nibbler_Porkepix2?11:49
dr_willistheos:  your user name is not 'myuser' ?11:49
kylescottmcgillAnyone had Automount setup with udev on ubuntu, or do they use something else like gfvs? (I dont have Nautalis, or thunar etc, i use ranger)11:49
Porkepix2nibbler_: the first one fail, the 2nd give nothing11:49
theosdr_willis i cant copy, paste etc. yes my user name is myuser11:49
nibbler_Porkepix2: nothing sounds good, did you do that before or after the paste you gave me? what error are you getting, nopaste pls11:49
dr_willistheos:  try with the shell. Not nautilus perhaps.. can you cd to where they are at and do a 'touch testfile' ?11:50
atlefblim, could you post complete output of lspci -v11:50
Porkepix2nibbler_: I haven't done this before. I did this now and rerun the command after. So install_cp don't find a folder, and install_symlink change nothing. After this, "dkms_build_alps" faile the same way11:51
theosdr_willis i did. no output.11:51
dr_willistheos:  no error message? do a ls -l . see if  it worked11:52
nibbler_Porkepix2: full output of the _cp pls11:52
kylescottmcgillno one have any recomendations11:52
kylescottmcgillargh s[elling tonight is shocking11:53
Porkepix2nibbler_: http://privatepaste.com/53d5c860eb11:53
theosdr_willis yes the timestamp changed. no error on touch11:53
Porkepix2nibbler_: for sure, this dir doesn't exist11:53
blimatlef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491619/plain/11:54
dr_willistheos:  try editing a test file , see if you can make it. and sav3 changes.. Its almost sounding like its just nautilus having issues. Not the actual filesystem11:54
theosdr_willis i killed nautilus and now everything is fine. thanks11:54
dr_willistheos:  ;P11:54
theosdr_willis :D11:54
BluesKajHey all11:54
theosbut why would plugging in usb hdd mess up nautilus? o.011:54
cronusPorkepix211:55
Porkepix2cronus: yes ?11:55
cronusPorkepix2, sorry wrong click...11:55
nibbler_Porkepix2: well, it looks like the copy has already takin place, as you are no in /usr/src/psmouse-alps-dst-1.211:55
TvL2386Hi guys, an ebtables question if you don't mind: I expected "ebtables -I OUTPUT -o eth0 -j DROP" to drop all ethernet frames that would leave through eth0... But when I ping this machine, it responds.... Which is what I did not expect11:55
atlefblim, this is the one you want to blacklist: snd-hda-intel11:56
blimthanks very much, I'll save what I've done for next time11:57
Porkepix2nibbler_: for my part, I guess all files are in place, and compilation fail for strange reason on a .o file :/11:57
atlefblim, np. hope it works11:57
nibbler_Porkepix2: does /var/lib/dkms/psmouse/alps-dst-1.2/build/make.log have any further info?11:58
DoingMyHeadIn <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .12:00
Porkepix2nibbler_: that's part of what I just show you before : http://privatepaste.com/d5e21726ac12:00
Ricardo-UbuntustHello, Āæwho installed Dropbox in Ubuntustudio 11.04? i have a little problem, thank`s12:00
nibbler_Porkepix2:  BTN_TOOL_QUINTTAP was suggest 22. august 2011.... so my first guess is, your kernel is too old for that12:02
Porkepix2nibbler_: kernel 3.0, pre-installed ubuntu 11.1012:03
nibbler_Porkepix2: i noteiced the 3.0 before - but still thought this makro might be a driver thing and not inherited from the kernel - but thats your problem. its about 4-finger-scroll-gestures12:04
nibbler_Porkepix2: so either update to a more recent ubuntu, or backport the code? ;-)12:04
wachpwnskiHow do I get the /dev/sdx of something liek this: disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD2002FAEX-007BA0_WD-WMAWP042273612:04
wachpwnski?12:04
nibbler_wachpwnski: sudo blkid12:04
thecpaptainSup guys =). Anyone here able to help me with internet ID in Sweden (Nordea) on Ubuntu ?12:05
wachpwnskinibbler_:  that is not giving me anything useful12:05
Porkepix2nibbler_: I can try to install a 12.04 or 12.10....but idk if it'll really help :/ Just want that my touchpad is recognized as....12:05
wachpwnskinibbler_:  unless that is the has?12:05
vltwachpwnski: /dev/disk/by-id/* is usually a symlink to the actual device. `ls -l` should tell you.12:05
wachpwnskihash*12:05
[Saint]Is anyone able to give me any clues on why All Settings/Details/Graphics lists my graphics driver as "Unknown"? An how to find out what driver I'm actually using?12:06
nibbler_Porkepix2: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/ident?v=3.0;i=BTN_TOOL_QUINTTAP - if you click a more recent kernel, it suddenly is defined - this driver won't build with kernel 3.0, end of story12:06
atlef[Saint], try lspci -v in a terminal and look for it there12:07
Porkepix2nibbler_: Ok. So I'll check with more recent ubuntu or other linux. Beggining with 3.1 it's ok ?12:07
nibbler_Porkepix2: i have no clue if this driver will help you in the end at all, but i do know that it wont build in unpatched 3.0 - ofc you could "just" patch it in, but depending on your skill level installing ubuntu 12.10 might be the easiest approach12:07
thecpaptainInternet-ID Sweden on Ubuntu. Gotten most things going, any ideas from anyone?12:07
thecpaptainor can you direct me to a Swedish chat-room maybe ?12:08
nibbler_Porkepix2: nope, was introduced in kernel 3.212:08
MonkeyDust!se12:08
ubottuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntustƶd hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se. Tack!12:08
thecpaptainthanks12:08
nibbler_thecpaptain: what is internet id?12:08
[Saint]atlef: the card is definitely being detectyed, and it is in use, but I don't know what driver it is using :-S12:08
[Saint]It's an /old/ card, but it is supported (apparently).12:08
Porkepix2nibbler_: ok, thanks. I'll test this. In all cases, is there a way to complain at canonical, which have given a certification for ubuntu on a laptop.....which have an unrecognized touchpad ?12:09
MonkeyDustPorkepix2  or report a bug at launchpad12:10
nibbler_Porkepix2: i dont know - maybe cononical certified it, as it is good suppored in recent ubuntu, but then dell shipped it with outdated ubuntu? i don't know - you want 12.10 anyway! :)12:10
atlef[Saint], did you try lspci -v in a terminal and look for it there12:10
ashleyludlowbase could be installed with generic drivers for lan use, its been proven even in "unsupported" systems it works for lan..12:10
Porkepix2nibbler_: the laptop was shipped with a pre-installed ubuntu (11.10). I guess this is the minimum to have a fully functionnal system :/12:11
nibbler_Porkepix2: well - then again, did you install all the updates offered? 12.4/10 should have been offered..12:12
[Saint]atlef: yes, sorry, I wasn't very verbose there...it's some weird shit: "Kernel driver in use: unknown12:12
[Saint]Kernel modules: unknown12:12
[Saint]"12:12
[Saint]I'm not even sure how that is possible...but, that's what it gives me.12:12
ashleyludlowmay i ask the whole issue plz?12:12
atlef[Saint], ah, then im not sure what to do12:12
MonkeyDust!who | ashleyludlow12:13
ashleyludlowor a bug trker?12:13
ubottuashleyludlow: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)12:13
Porkepix2nibbler_: nop, not atm.....very important internet connectivity issues atm....I'll need more than a week to download all12:13
[Saint]atlef: assuming it did list the driver in use there, but still displayed the driver as unknown via the settings...did you have a solution?12:14
nibbler_Porkepix2: well, i'd say you have a good shot that just installing latest ubuntu will solve your issues directly12:14
atlef[Saint], sorry12:14
nibbler_Porkepix2: if its new, just try to get your hands on a installer-cd12:14
[Saint]just wondering how far I should bother poking at this. I have working graphics, but am stuck with a 'standard' experience...which isn't so bad, but the card is plenty capable.12:14
Porkepix2nibbler_: not the basic one : I booted a 12.10 on live usb, same erratic behavior. But I haven't tried to compile driver on this one12:15
atlef[Saint], what gfx card is this12:15
nibbler_Porkepix2: if you have a live usb, this might be good for installing or even updating12:16
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thecpaptain@nibbler: Internet ID in Sweden is a way for citizens to identify themselves on the internet in order to do stuff connected to government, banking and similar services that otherwise would require your ID12:16
nibbler_thecpaptain: ah, thanks.12:17
atlef[Saint], i dropped out12:17
Porkepix2nibbler_: I'll check all this. In any cases, thanks for your help12:17
nibbler_Porkepix2: welcome, and best of luck12:17
Porkepix2ty12:17
[Saint]I guess the joke is on me for using an ATI card that isn't one of 'the elite few' with super-backflip-mega-booyah-ultra-support.12:18
atlef[Saint], damn amd :-)12:19
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[Saint]Better than the embedded nvidia gfx chipset in my SO's laptop. I mean, at least I have working graphics and not a recipe for an epileptic fit. :)12:20
[Saint]That machine flickers the screen on/off at ~10Hz12:21
atlef[Saint], have you looked at bumblebee for the laptop? http://bumblebee-project.org/12:22
cordovalanyone can help me to repair my virtualbox?12:23
atlef!ask | cordoval12:24
ubottucordoval: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:24
[Saint]Virtualbox probably could.12:24
KM0201well, depends on the problem, is the problem virtual box, or an ubuntu install inside virtualbox...  asking questions 101.12:24
cordovalplease Breaks existing package 'virtualbox-4.1' that conflict: 'virtualbox'. But the /home/cordoval/Desktop virtualbox-4.2_Ubuntupriceiseamd64.deb providers it via 'virtualbox'12:24
[Saint]atlef: I'm aware of the project, but this particular laptop doesn't use GPU switching.12:25
cfhowlettcordoval: is your system 64 bit?12:25
[Saint]thanks, though.12:25
cordovalyes12:25
cordovalcfhowlett:12:25
atlef[Saint], oh, sorry, sounded like it12:25
[Saint]atlef: No, it's just a *very* weird screen resolution...and the drivers I've tried with it all choke.12:26
[Saint]2048x158412:27
[Saint]#weirdresolutions12:27
atlef[Saint], i think it is possible to edit xorg.conf to get the right screenresolution12:27
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cordovalplease Breaks existing package 'virtualbox-4.1' that conflict: 'virtualbox'. But the /home/cordoval/Desktop virtualbox-4.2_Ubuntupriceiseamd64.deb providers it via 'virtualbox'12:29
cordovalanynoe has run into this?12:29
cordovali guess if i remove it it can improve situation right?12:29
cordovalhttps://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/991812:30
EaglemanWhere is application data ussually stored?12:31
[Saint]atlef: ah, that didn't occur to me...creating an xorg.conf by hand was probably too much effort than I wanted to put into it at the time.12:31
atlef[Saint], more info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution12:31
adamkYou can always try creating a mode for the resolution, without creating an xorg.conf file and restarting X, using 'xrandr'12:32
cfhowlettRE: dropbox.  I'm in China and can't access Dropbox's site directly.  Win7 works without problems, but I installed that before I arrived in China.  The final installation step of installing the dropbox daemon keeps timing out.  Suggestions/workarounds?12:32
TakeItEZcfhowlett: tried using tor, vpn?12:33
[Saint]adamk: I think I might actually go the 'roll your own xorg.conf" route, as I might be able to kill two birds with one stone here and force it to use a specific video driver as well.12:34
Elvinzhello12:34
adamk[Saint]: Which is fine, but it's probably worth testing the modeline you are going to put in the xorg.conf file *first* :-)12:35
Elvinzis it possible to force unity to maximize all app at launch, so as not to have to click on the maximize button everytime ?12:35
[Saint]I will do, but at the present point, I couldn;t possibly make it any less usable I don't think :)12:35
[Saint]I have to ssh in, or risk an epileptic fit.12:36
kylescottmcgillElvinz: i think it is but not inside Unity, it will be somewhere else that you set that12:37
XATRIXHi guys, my server was rebooted suspiciously, how can i figure out, was it shut down by command, or power fault12:38
Elvinzkylescottmcgill, ok. As some application have a command line switch to enable the maximization, how do I edit the launcher ? For the terminal for example, I could add "--maximize"12:38
jribElvinz: try devilspie12:38
jribElvinz: there also may be some way in ccsm12:38
jrib!devilspie | Elvinz12:38
ubottuElvinz: devilspie is a tool that can perform actions on windows when running applications. Actions include resizing, positioning, pinning etc. Use the package gdevilspie to configure from GUI, or see usage information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie12:38
nibbler_XATRIX: log files12:38
kylescottmcgillYou will need to find the corrosponding .desktop file12:38
delphinashello;)12:39
kylescottmcgilltry using locate <yourapp>.desktop12:39
XATRIXnibbler_: what should i look in log files for ?12:39
kylescottmcgillflac0x:  ^^12:39
flac0xkylescottmcgill, ?12:39
kylescottmcgillXATRIX: check the auth.log to see if someone sudo shutdown your box, if its not there, it might have been your host (if its hosted)12:40
Elvinzok thank you. I have not used Ubuntu for a long time. I love the Unity interface, and have replaced two win 7 boxes since yesterday.12:40
jribElvinz: apparently, yes, you can also do it in ccsm.  Excuse the blogspam: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1110-updates-new-window-auto.html12:40
cfhowlettdelphinas: greetings12:40
delphinasDo you still feel "lag" on Ubuntu under VirtualBox? Installed guest addons and vboxvideo12:40
XATRIXkylescottmcgill: it's a dedicaed server12:40
kylescottmcgillsorry flac0x i ment Elvinz12:40
delphinasit is better than it was12:40
XATRIXDon't think it's a host12:40
delphinasbut still feels wrong somehow :D12:40
flac0xkylescottmcgill, ok12:41
aslanhi12:43
delphinasso anyone can run Ubutnu 12.10 on VB smoothly?12:43
delphinasaslan, hi12:43
DoingMyHeadIn <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .12:44
fidel_hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)12:47
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Elvinzis there a way to simply change all the system font size (default are a bit too big on my netbook) ?12:48
[Saint]Elvinz: System Settings - Universal Access - Text Size12:50
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kkkkjjjhall12:50
Elvinz[Saint], thank you, but the font reduction is very important. Is there a way to select the font sizes ?12:53
diehello12:54
[Saint]Elvinz: not globally, no.12:54
[Saint]At least, not that I am aware of.12:54
Elvinz[Saint], ok thank you12:55
[Saint]You can do so on a per-application basis if the application allows this, otherwise the universal access menu is the only option I am aware of the change the font height 'globally'12:55
[Saint]You may have to configure each application individually if you need finer grained control.12:55
Elvinz[Saint] ok !12:56
dies salute you expect www.aynasohbet.com12:57
mathnodeSo...Shuttleworth talks a good game, but is anyone retailing Ubuntu tablets in the UK?12:57
[Saint]mathnode: before the OS is released?12:58
[Saint]If they are, I'll give them some serious credit...and, accuse them of being time lords.12:58
mathnodeOh I see12:59
eaHello, I have accidentally formatted an ext3 filesystem with ext4 with during the ubuntu  12.04 LTS installation. Is there a way to recover this?12:59
mathnode[Saint]: I guess this is the closest/best for the time being? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-December/036230.html12:59
[Saint]mathnode: I /suppose/, in a way, some retailers *are* selling Ubuntu tablets.13:00
eaI assume the files should not be overwritten?13:00
[Saint]As you're perfectly capable of running a preview image on the Nexus 7.13:00
mathnode[Saint]: yeah sounds fine by me.13:00
[Saint]ea: your files are gone.13:01
ea[Saint], nothing was written in the filesystem13:01
jribea: try testdisk or foremost maybe13:01
[Saint]you said you formatted it. if there were files on there you needed...they are no longer there.13:01
eajrib, thanks!!13:02
MonkeyDust!recover > ea13:02
ubottuea, please see my private message13:02
Bieliqhi guys i need help im beginner user of ubuntu and i need to install tar gz file how to do that without damn commands ??13:02
jribBieliq: what software are you installing?13:03
Bieliqi use ubuntu 12.04 and i want to isntall open office13:03
MonkeyDustBieliq  with archive manager13:03
MonkeyDustBieliq  libre office is in the repos, no need for a tar file13:03
[Saint]Isn't OO.o already a part of 12.04?13:03
* [Saint] forgets13:04
mathnodeYeah it's just called Libre Office.13:04
Bieliqbut libre office is open office ??13:04
mathnodeBieliq: Yes.13:04
Bieliqaaa thx guys13:04
[Saint]Yes. Same thing. Different name.13:04
MonkeyDustand not from oracle13:04
Bieliqbut if i need to install smth in future how to do that in simple way ? command line scares me in ubuntu13:05
CookieMopenoffice belongs to oracle and is barely maintained13:05
fidel_hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)13:05
MonkeyDustBieliq  use synaptic or the software center13:05
CookieMlibreo. is independent13:05
[Saint]Bieliq: if you need to install something, you'll likely find it in the official repo, so you can use a graphical package manager.13:05
mathnodeBieliq: Ubuntu Software Center?13:05
[Saint]thought "sudo apt-get install <package_name>" isn't all that intimidating after time.13:06
MonkeyDustBieliq  commands give a lot more control over your ubuntu system, better get used to it13:06
Bieliqbut in ubuntu are programs from repositories only and sometimes u can find smth in net for ubuntu in tar gz file so i just ask for future if i needed smth to install manually13:06
[Saint]*you *something13:07
Bieliqhm guess i will need to get used13:07
MonkeyDustBieliq  use archive manager13:07
Bieliqin archive i can unpack right ? but then what to do next ?13:07
mar77ihello. running ubuntu with dual-monitor on RADEON, and the left screen keeps blinking ... wtf, I'm just seeing it's set to 59.9hz13:08
[Saint]That depends entirely on what it is you're installing.13:08
mar77iwhile the other screen is set to 60hz13:08
mathnodeBieliq: Unless it's commercial software, it's generally not worth it. Stick to the Ubuntu Software Center, and download .deb's for 32bit or 64bit.13:08
MonkeyDustBieliq  start with the basics13:08
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VivekHi, I am disabling ufw on my Ubuntu 12.04 server with ufw disable and update-rc.d -f ufw remove13:08
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jribBieliq: it depends on the software.  tar.gz is like zip.  It's just a bunch of files.  Anything can be in there.  There's no one universal way to deal with software like that other than telling you to read its documentation.  Ideally you would instead find the software in the repositories or as a .deb for your ubuntu version.  If you can't and you aren't sure what to do, you can come here and ask for13:08
jribassistance13:08
VivekOn restarting the server I am getting iptables rules when I do a iptables -L13:08
TakeItEZBieliq: most archives come with a README, you read after unpacking how to proceed13:09
jribVivek: yes, because ufw has started probably.13:09
Bieliqok i wont trouble myself with that now, if i see smth i cant manage i will come ask, thx very much for help guys13:09
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Bieliqhave  a nice day13:10
wdphey, is there a 3d graphics driver for a ati rs690 (radeon x1200)13:10
wdp?13:10
adamkwdp: Yes, the open source driver that comes with Ubuntu.13:10
adamkThat's the only driver available for that GPU on any modern distribution.13:10
Vivekjrib: ok13:11
wdphm k.13:11
VivekSo how do I disable ufw permanently ?13:11
mar77ioh just noticed I'm calling xrandr anyway in the .xsession, will try setting --rate13:11
jribVivek: your update-rc.d is a no-op since ufw is started by upstart (/etc/init/ufw.conf).  I don't know much about ufw but I assume that just running "sudo ufw disable" would disable it in the future.  Have you checked its documentation?13:11
wdpis there some tool in ubuntu to set the brightness and contrast for a monitor?13:11
MonkeyDustVivek  sudo ufw disable13:11
wdpi searched in the settings, but there's nothing like that13:11
icerootVivek: sudo ufw disable13:11
VivekI already did a sudo ufw disable13:11
Vivekon reboot iptables -L shows rules again.13:12
MonkeyDustVivek  great, that's the way to do it13:12
VivekMonkeyDust: It is not working13:12
jribVivek: and what's ufw status?13:12
VivekAfter I do a ufw disable it is showing inactive13:12
jribVivek: and after you reboot...13:12
Viveklet me check the status after the reboot13:12
VivekIt is still inactive13:13
VivekBut I have iptables rules there....13:13
jribVivek: were there iptables rules before you rebooted?13:13
VivekYes13:13
VivekWhatever was set by Ubuntu server 12.04 by default.13:13
jribVivek: there are no rules by default13:13
VivekI did not set any riles.13:13
jribVivek: right, so you need to figure out where they are coming from if "ufw disable" isn't disabling them13:13
TakeItEZVivek: so you likely have an "iptables-restore" script somewhere13:13
Vivekok13:14
jribVivek: did you install an official ubuntu image?13:14
VivekYes.13:14
TStarkHHi13:14
jribVivek: what are the rules?13:14
VivekTakeItEZ: What do you want me to do with the iptables-restore script ?13:14
jribat least last time I checked, there were no rules by default.  Maybe that changed.13:15
Vivekjrib: brb, let me copy the rules.13:15
blamiVivek: pastebin them13:15
blamijrib: maybe he saved rules set by ufw I accidentaly did same thing once13:16
TStarkHI need assistance with video drivers. Can somebody help me?13:16
TakeItEZVivek: if ufw isn't running and restoring your rules, there seeem to be either a script using iptables-restore doing it or iptables-persistent13:16
jribblami: oh13:16
fidel_hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)13:17
wifihi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet13:17
mmarc__2hi guys! In Ubuntu - do we have any mailing list related to PPA questions?13:20
tarzan\join #grass13:25
LudwigVonMisestarzan: Welcome to #grass.13:26
tarzan:P13:26
mathnodeUbuntu, the stoners choice.13:26
kesorwhere can I find rsyslog 7.x packages for ubuntu lucid?13:27
Transhumanistmmmmm weed13:27
LudwigVonMises"Transhumanist: mmmmm weed" << figures13:28
iceroot!info rsyslog lucid13:28
ubottursyslog (source: rsyslog): enhanced multi-threaded syslogd. In component main, is important. Version 4.2.0-2ubuntu8.1 (lucid), package size 271 kB, installed size 712 kB13:28
mathnodeI don't smoke weed, nor do I use Unity. But I imagine the combination must be quite psychadellic.13:28
icerootkesor: hogher versions then 4.2.x only in ppas or backports13:28
kesoriceroot: couldn't find any ppas with 7.x :(13:28
kesorbackports also only has version 5.x etc..13:29
icerootkesor: and you need 7.x why?13:29
iceroot!info rsyslog precise13:29
ubottursyslog (source: rsyslog): reliable system and kernel logging daemon. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.6-1ubuntu8 (precise), package size 417 kB, installed size 1171 kB13:29
iceroot!info rsyslog13:30
ubottursyslog (source: rsyslog): reliable system and kernel logging daemon. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.6-1ubuntu9 (quantal), package size 419 kB, installed size 1172 kB13:30
icerootkesor: 5.x will be the highest you will find officially for ubuntu13:30
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icerootkesor: even 12.10 has 5.x13:30
TStarkHIs there a stable version of AMD drivers for ubuntu 12.10?13:30
kesoriceroot: i know, and my client unfortunately is still using mostly lucid on all the servers.13:30
icerootkesor: and lucid has 5.x in backports, so what is the problem?13:31
Vivek blami, TakeItEZ, jrib, MonkeyDust : http://fpaste.org/q8L4/13:31
Picikesor: I only see rsyslog7 in debian experimental, which definitely hasn't been synced to any Ubuntus.13:31
VivekThat is what the I.P Tables rules look like after the server is rebooted after a ufw disable...13:31
kesoriceroot: it does? ā€¦ pretty sure it doesnt13:31
TakeItEZkesor: rsyslog.com has an ubuntu-repo, check it13:31
iceroot[14:29]     kesor | backports also only has version 5.x etc..13:32
kesorTakeItEZ: their repo only has the -devel and not the -stable version, and its for precise only.13:32
icerootkesor: and why you need 7.x?13:32
icerootkesor: because its newer?13:32
TakeItEZkesor: i'd guess you have to build it yourself then13:33
kesoriceroot: no, because it has several bugs fixed in features I am using.13:33
VivekTakeItEZ:  http://fpaste.org/q8L4/13:33
kesorthe fun of building packages myself ā€¦ always works, with the exception of core dumps and the code debugging you have to do to make sure the patches actually work ā€¦ etc.13:33
Viveksorry for reposting, thought you missed my post.13:33
icerootkesor: the main problem is that debian is not using it anymore so the normal sync from debian will give the old-stable version13:34
wifihi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet13:34
kesoriceroot: debian is not using rsyslog anymore? ā€¦ don't they have it in experimental?13:34
VivekThat is the iptables rules that show up after the server reboot even after ufw disable is done.13:34
icerootkesor: and if there is no good reason ubuntu will not build 7.x instead of the 5.x sync from debian13:34
Piciiceroot: version 7 is in debian experimental13:34
kesoriceroot: ubuntu is always behind debian now13:35
kesor?13:35
icerootkesor: no13:35
kesoriceroot: so I don't understand your argument13:35
icerootPici: ah ok my last info was it has an older version because it will be skipped13:35
cordovalsolved it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209229813:36
cordovalthanks13:36
icerootkesor: it was added some month ago in experimental. even sid has 5.x13:39
kesorhow hard is it to backport debian experimental packages to lucid? all I know how to do is pull-debian-source rsyslog experimental ...13:39
icerootkesor: and normally ubuntu is syncing from sid and not experimental13:39
chemist^hello everyone! I hope someone can help me solve my problem..... i'm using ubuntu 12.04 ... when i listen to music in any application and want to turn down the volume...when i change the Master volume with my keyboard, the sound of the music only slightly lowers it self.... almost no difference between 99% and 1% volume .... but when i mute it...it mutes the music too...13:40
xetiusmy gnome-terminal crashes when I try to access any of the menus, or do anything like opening a new tab.  Any ideas how to fix this?13:40
chemist^how can i set the key on my keyboard to change the volume of all the channels at the same time?13:40
chemist^so no matter what i do...when i press to lower the volume it actually lowers it...?13:40
sw!keys | chemist^13:40
ubottuchemist^: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts13:40
icerootkesor: for a quick testing, download the source-package, install the builddepbs and use "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"  or use the deb directly but mixing repos/packages is not supported here13:41
chemist^sw i know that13:41
swchemist^ Then?13:41
kesoriceroot: "pull-debian-source rsyslog experimental ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" ?13:41
chemist^wait a sec13:41
icerootkesor: you also need the builddeps13:42
chemist^sw the key does change the volume13:42
chemist^but the music is still loud13:42
kesoroh how I hate package building :(13:42
chemist^even if master output volume is 2%13:42
jCubersw: chemist^ : I think whar chemist^ is trying to do is change the volume keybinds to change all of the channels at once13:42
chemist^yes13:42
chemist^sorry for my bad english13:42
chemist^it's a bit rusty :D13:43
chemist^i'll make an example13:43
chemist^I want to listen to an mp3...so i open it in VLC or amarok ... when i change the volume from 100% to 2% with my keyboard or with the mouse ... the music is only a little less loud then before13:44
chemist^almost no change in volume13:44
chemist^anyone? :)13:45
icerootkesor: i would not do it if i look at the list of dependencies..initscripts.. which is pulling a lot of new stuff which is not in ubuntu yet13:45
w3bg33kanyone have issues with turnkey linux?13:45
icerootkesor: there is a very good reason why 7.x is in experimental and not sid or anything else13:46
MonkeyDustchemist^  open a terminal and type alsamixer, see if you can change sth there13:46
icerootw3bg33k: is that ubuntu related?13:46
kesoriceroot: can't I just install debian packages from experimental in lucid ubuntu and tell apt to ignore the various numbers and stuff?13:46
w3bg33kiceroot - yes13:46
icerootkesor: dont do that13:46
chemist^MonkeyDust, i have already... the sound gets lower if i change the PCM volume13:47
predswill the pulse run by my user use values from /etc/pulse/ or do I need to copy files or something13:48
chemist^but how do i make my keyboard shortcut lower PCM instead of master...or even better both at the same time13:48
predsthe sound quality is notably lacking and I'm trying to do something about it13:48
xetiustuesday13:49
zibordshi13:52
chemist^nothing can be done ;(13:52
cfhowlettzibords: greetings13:53
zibords_hi cfhowlett13:54
wifihi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet13:54
MonkeyDustwifi  only with wireless, or also with ethernet?13:55
phaidros12.04 with dual monitor is dringing me crazy: mouse always hangs between the screens for a second before being able to move along .. any hints how to disable that?13:55
phaidrosdriving13:55
kesorwhat does it mean dh: Sorry, but 7 is the highest compatibility level supported by this debhelper. and can I safely ignore it?13:57
rushboyHello I am working on some .cpp  and .hpp files . Can anyone let me know if we can #include such files in .src files ?13:58
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fidel_rushboy: not really channelrelated question- maybe try asking in addition in a coding related channel13:59
xetiusAnyone here able to help with a crashing gnome-terminal problem?13:59
Picirushboy: ##c++ would be a far better place to ask13:59
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phaidrosk. got it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109338/how-do-i-disable-mouse-magnet-on-middle-edge-with-multi-monitors .. ccsm edge-stop..14:00
MonkeyDustxetius  let's hear it14:03
xetiusMonkeyDust: ubuntu 12.10 and gnome 3.7.3.  When I access the menus on gnome-terminal, it just disappears, almost like closing it14:05
xetiusno chance to enter a crash report or anything like that14:05
MonkeyDustxetius  the current version in 12.10 is 3.6 -- anything higher is not from the repos and not supported, i'm afraid14:06
xetiusok, fair enough.  thanks14:06
MonkeyDustxetius  why not simply use the version from the repos?14:07
xetiusActually, I can't remember how I got this.  Don't know how to roll back either14:07
Nataliaciao14:08
PipSo where to buy a ubuntu phone?14:10
RixToxnot announced yet?14:11
Pipoh14:11
fidel_Pip: wait until they are available in the first place ;)14:11
PipI wish they will release the ROM first so that I can burn into my phone14:11
RixToxit will be an Ubuntu generation14:11
h00kPip: #ubuntu-discussion is the place where people are talking about that, if you want to head there14:12
Pipthanks14:12
PipBut that channel doesn't exist14:12
RixToxno one is there14:13
DJones!phone | Pip14:13
ubottuPip: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone14:13
T3Xi am running download 24/24, which make internet speed slower of other users on the net. is there any way to give priority to other users using bandwidth after they finish i back start using full bandwidth?14:15
michele__ciao14:15
michele__questo ĆØ il canale italiano?14:16
atlef!it14:16
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi Ā« /join #ubuntu-it Ā» senza virgolette)14:16
KnightEternalhi.14:17
KnightEternalhas anyone tried to install 12.10 quantal on a mk808 android stick?14:17
pinkwatershmmmmm14:19
drLizationHi there, anybody here?14:22
atlefyes14:22
drLizationI just downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.ISO14:24
drLizationit's 753 MB, can this be burned on a 700 MB disk (80 MB)14:24
drLizationit's 753 MB, can this be burned on a 700 MB disk (80 MB)?14:24
drLizationoops sorry for double post14:24
alien__It is said that linux to drop i386 in the future. Really?14:24
drLizationI think you need to "overburn" to do this, right? I just got vanila win7 home premium on this machine, can this overburn?14:25
drLizationwell, I think I shld be using google instead, sorry to bother you with this14:25
MonkeyDustalien__  yes and Thorvalds says "good riddance"14:25
vexxhi14:26
drLizationgot what I was looking for - http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/11/05/0333225/ubuntu-1204-lts-wont-fit-on-a-cd14:26
vexxsomeone knows warsow? game14:28
drLizationvexx, I haven't played warsow since 200514:28
drLizationdoes it still have a big community? Does it run on ubuntu?14:29
vexxyes14:29
ayoub022yep14:29
ayoub022QUIT14:30
ukebaneMaybe someone can help me with this, I'm trying to uninstall all the old versions of Java14:30
ukebaneI uninstalled openjdk6 and 7 from the software center14:30
drLizationI dop't want to waste a 4GB DVD on 750MB ubuntu ISO, can I download a 'bigger' ISO with more libraries on it somewhere?14:30
ukebanebut java -version shows I still have java version 1.7.0_09 installed14:31
icerootukebane: does it show "oracle java"?14:32
vexx drlization  You know that servers can continue to operate?14:32
ukebaneit says openjdk14:32
MonkeyDustdrLization  or use a usb stick14:33
piglithow can i see if i am using ipv4 or ipv6 ?14:33
drLizationvexx: what do you mean? servers can continue to operate?14:34
TakeItEZdrLization: use usb or cd/dvd-rw media14:34
drLizationgood point,  MonkeyDust,14:35
drLizationand others14:35
ukebaneiceroot: my goal is to install oracle java 7 and use that, but the manual I'm following states I should remove old versions first14:36
BsimsI am running ubuntu in virtual box... any way to convert my virtualbox file to a live usb so I can run it in persistant mode?14:37
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T3Xwhat should i use to repeat the same command after finish executing?14:38
BsimsT3X: foo --options arg;foo --options arg14:39
MonkeyDustT3X  arrow up14:39
Bsimsor arrow up lol14:39
KnightEternalor !!14:39
kim__watch14:39
MonkeyDustor ![pid]14:40
atjehcyberneed ubuntu free cd whare i can get it14:40
SnowmanX11Was somebody able to run newest catalyst on ATI Radeon HD 6800M videocard? (Catalyst 12.10 or 12.11 Beta) I am interested on both Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and 12.10 too14:40
T3XMonkeyDust: that wil keep doing it automaticaly?14:40
MonkeyDustatjehcyber  http://www.ubuntu.com/download14:41
DJonesatjehcyber: You can either download it and burn it to a dvd or usb stick, or you contact your local linux/ubuntu user group, they may have spare install dvd's14:41
atjehcyberMonkeyDust i know that, but before i have get free cd from ubuntu free14:41
atjehcyberbut right now i not find it more14:41
MonkeyDustatjehcyber  ah, order cd's, you mean14:41
DJonesatjehcyber: shipit stopped distributing cd's about 12 months ago from memory14:42
MoL0ToVsomeone  know how to put in a basketcase the hide cursor to scrool back a window and use classical theme cursor???14:42
MoL0ToVi'm so frustrated14:43
ukebanewould removing java by removing all the locations stated in "whereis java" cause a lot of errors or is it a valid way to remove it?14:43
OsakasaSnowmanX11, i managed to install 12.11 beta for HD6000. running 12.0414:44
Touhou11ukebane: You should remove it using the package manager (assuming that's how you installed it)14:44
T3Xwhat is the best torrent software for linux?14:44
T3Xwhich i can use on Terminal14:45
ukebaneTouhou11: I already removed the java's I could find in the package manager, but it still shows up and runs14:45
Rismost3x: rtorrent14:45
OsakasaSnowmanX11, there is a stupid watermark bottom-right corner with block a view sometimes :(14:45
MonkeyDustT3X  deluge and transmission are nice14:45
MonkeyDustah terminal14:45
T3Xyep terminal14:45
Rismost3x: keyboard shortcuts take some getting used to but it's a nice/simple/fast torrent client that runs in terminal14:45
T3Xso GUI14:45
MoL0ToV/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.soAborted (core dumped)14:46
MoL0ToV  so pretty!! :D howto fix?14:46
BsimsT3X: I beleve there is a cli version of transmission14:46
TakeItEZT3X: rtorrent works fine, but there is no single best application. it always depends on your needs/whishes etc14:46
lucidoherro, how can I make a bootable usb flashdrive from ubuntu that I can use to install winxp?14:46
MonkeyDustlucido  do you have an installable winxp iso?14:46
lucidoMonkeyDust, I do14:47
Touhou11TakeItEZ: Negative, rTorrent is the best14:47
Bsimslucido: install lili or unetbootin14:47
lucidoBsims, tried unetbootinn, but when I boot up the flashdrive its stuck in the default option14:48
Bsimslucido: I dunno then sorry, but lili lets you select your own isos14:48
RismosBsims:  imagewriter in ubuntu14:49
BsimsRismos: heh always another program14:50
Rismos:)14:50
Rismosi try :)14:50
Rismosi've had great luck with imagewriter14:50
ukebaneTouhou11: there is now no more mention of java in ubuntu software center14:50
ukebaneTouhou11: whereis java shows java in: java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz14:51
wdphow can i disabled that the file / edit / etc menu is at the top?14:52
Touhou11ukebane: Those might just be symbolic links, also unless you do a complete removal configuration files in /etc/ are always left behind after uninstalling14:52
ukebaneTouhou11: running java -version still runs and shows me the version14:52
wdps/disabled/disable14:52
ukebaneTouhou11: which indicates the program is still there14:52
Touhou11ukebane: Have you searched for "jre", "jdk", "icedtea" etc. in the software centre? Or try synaptic/CLI to search instead, the software centre is not very powerful14:53
ukebaneTouhou11: thanks I'll try that now14:53
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andrea_did u guys ever heard of someone not being able to come back to work due to the fact that on the 1st of january its badge was no longer enabled?14:57
andrea_oops sorry wrong channel14:57
kylescottmcgillukebane: sudo apt-cache search jre14:58
kylescottmcgillukebane: sudo apt-cache search jre14:58
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ukebanekylescottmcgill: shows plenty14:59
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kylescottmcgillukebane: you could pick one of them if you wanted to install another version of JRE15:00
ukebaneI need JDK 7, the oracle one15:00
kylescottmcgilloh i see, try searching for JDK15:00
kylescottmcgillbut vaguely i remember Ubuntu and Oracle having a fall out or something15:00
kylescottmcgillso i wouldnt be surprised if you had to add a PPA or Install manually15:01
ukebanekylescottmcgill: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099496&highlight=jdk15:01
dfgasanyone here install ubuntu on their cr-48?15:01
ukebanebut I'm having troubles removing the old version15:01
ukebanebecause I'm a nubcake basically15:01
kylescottmcgilllol15:01
kylescottmcgillukebane: you should be able to sudo apt-get remove java15:02
Bsimsukebane: try sudo apt-get purge java... that will remove any config files left over15:02
kylescottmcgillBsims: +115:02
l057c0d3r--purge15:02
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ukebaneE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)15:03
ukebaneE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:03
kylescottmcgillukebane: use sudo15:03
Bsimsukebane: Ok close synaptic or software manager first15:03
TommehMZenum, Good day.,.15:03
ukebanekylescottmcgill: I did15:03
ZenumGootentag15:03
Bsimsand/or use sudo15:03
kylescottmcgillukebane: follow Bsims advice too15:03
kylescottmcgillthat and software center if its open15:04
ukebaneused sudo, had synaptic open15:04
ZenumTommehM: How are you?15:04
ukebanemy bad15:04
TommehMWhat you up to?15:04
Bsimsukebane: heh at least it tells you what it thinks is wrong15:04
ZenumI'm installing my #archlinux server15:04
TommehMZenum, #ubuntu-offtopic15:05
ukebaneBsims: same error, not running anything besides weechat and two terminals15:05
Zenumok TommehM15:06
Bsimsukebane: wierd... ya don't have an install or something on another terminal/virtual window do you15:06
wdpnvm. found out how.15:06
kylescottmcgillukebane: check htop or top15:06
ukebaneBsims: neg, just bash waiting for a command and this irc15:06
kylescottmcgillyou could try lsof | grep lock15:07
kylescottmcgillor something15:07
Bsimsyeah what kylescottmcgill said15:07
ukebaneonly kblockd15:07
kylescottmcgillit should tell you which application is using the lock15:07
kylescottmcgilland then you can pkill that bad boy15:07
kylescottmcgilldont forget to sudo pkill15:08
kylescottmcgillukebane: worst comes to worst, you could sudo service lightdm restart CAREFUL as this will log you out but it will kill most applications open or stalled etc15:09
ukebaneI'll try that15:09
ukebanebrb15:09
kesorI built a source package with dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa for rsyslog and all its dependencies, how do I test that the actual binary builds pass? I have pbuilder create, but can't understand how to use it15:11
kylescottmcgillargh, its like a sweltering 40 degrees atm, not used to this heat15:11
kylescottmcgillukebane: welcome back15:12
jrib kesor now use pbuilder to build the package15:12
jrib!pbuilder | kesor15:12
ubottukesor: pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto15:12
kesorjrib: but how? it says the .dsc files are wrong15:12
jrib!packaging | kesor15:12
ubottukesor: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring15:12
ukebanekylescottmcgill: thanks15:13
jribkesor: well, what exactly are you doing and what exactly is it saying (use a pastebin)?15:13
kesorubuntu/debian packaging is too f complex ā€¦ always takes me a whole day to build one package :(15:13
MaximBis it possible to  install Ubuntu on my Android Galaxy S2 device ? (seen the video, but not the "how to install")15:13
Touhou11kesor: You're doing something wrong, it shouldn't be difficult15:13
apt-get_installanyone here that can explain what "acpitz" in lm-senors is?15:13
kylescottmcgillMaximB: i think we would be a way away yet before its released15:13
jribkesor: pbuilder is just a convenience so you don't pollute your environment and to verify you've really listed all the build-deps15:14
MaximBlike 1-2 years ?15:14
kesorTouhou11: I'm trying to backport existing packages to lucid ā€¦ and its extremely hard.15:14
ukebanekylescottmcgill: ehh, I forgot the apt-get command15:14
kylescottmcgillnah i would say like 6 - 8 months before it starts popping up on how to compile and build etc15:14
kesorjrib: yep. just waiting for the error to pop again and I'll show you15:14
kylescottmcgillukebane: sudo apt-cache search jdk15:14
jribkesor: you know there's a tool for backporting too15:14
kylescottmcgillthen sudo apt-get install <package>15:14
ukebanekylescottmcgill: for purging it :P15:15
kesorjrib: really?15:15
jrib!backport | kesor15:15
ubottukesor: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging15:15
ukebanekylescottmcgill: I'm planning on installing it manually remember15:15
MaximBkylescottmcgill: the problem is that it won't support android apps.... and ubuntu isn't that major on itself to make developers program apps for it15:15
kesorjrib: i don't know all that much, I just waste lots of time building packages.15:15
kylescottmcgillsudo apt-get remove --purge jdk ?15:15
jribkesor: well once you spend time doing it once, I don't see why it would take very long15:15
ukebaneexcellent, unable to locate package jdk15:15
apt-get_installkylescottmcgill: or sudo apt-get pruge jdk15:15
kesorjrib: what you just linked, it explains how to use the UI to open windows and stuff ā€¦ wtf?15:16
kylescottmcgillMaximB: yeah they will be going through testing etc, its more an advertisement i would think15:16
kesorjrib: its not a tool, its just description how to add backports to apt sources.15:16
MaximBok thanks....see you in 6-7 months :D ...just kidding15:16
helmut_hi15:16
xBytezhello helmut_.15:17
apt-get_installanyone here that can explain what "acpitz" in lm-senors is?15:17
jribkesor: are you sure...?15:17
kylescottmcgillukebane: sorry you were purging java wernt you, but you want jdk15:17
kesorjrib: yeah, pretty sure.15:18
jribkesor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports linked from that page15:18
kylescottmcgillapt-get_install: im guessing its an abstraction layer for apci ?15:18
jribkesor: but anyway, I usually do what you are doing (just grab the source from a later release, verify deps are satisfied, and rebuild)15:18
ukebanekylescottmcgill: actually after restarting lightdm I have the latest version of oracle jdk it says15:18
ukebanekylescottmcgill: (I tried to install that before finding the thread)15:19
apt-get_installkylescottmcgill: what?15:19
jribkesor: can I ask why you are trying to get a later version of rsyslog anyway?15:20
dfgascan anyone help getting my cr-48 with the modifed bios to boot efi ubuntu 12.0415:20
kesorjrib: i need some of the fixed bugs that are available in the later versions.  I'm using this script to build it - https://gist.github.com/7b209dcb88754e2b539e15:20
apt-get_installdfgas: cant boot?15:20
dfgasapt-get_install, no :(15:21
kylescottmcgillukebane: nice, you did it all by yourself :)15:21
dfgasapt-get_install: i get boot partition not found15:22
kylescottmcgillapt-get_install: you know what apci is yeah?15:22
alperkanathey all! i'm trying ubuntu maas on virtualbox. MAAS Server has 2 nics: 1 internet, 1 private network. All nodes also have 1 internet, 1 private network nic. How can i make PXE work with this setup?15:22
apt-get_installdfgas: what happens when u are trying to boot?15:22
apt-get_installblack screen?15:22
adam-33Hello. Is it a fact that Ubuntu 12.10 employs an ephemeral key for the encryption of the swap file? What does it mean in practical terms?15:22
kylescottmcgillapt-get_install: apcitc is APCI Thermal Zone, its a daemon15:23
jhsdhello15:23
kylescottmcgillapcitz**15:23
dfgasapt-get_install: i get boot partition not found, no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key15:23
hero616dfas: I searched Cr-48 and got this: How to boot Ubuntu on a Cr-48-The Chromium Projects.15:23
jhsdI'm trying to install Ubuntu but I can't find any partitions on my system.15:23
apt-get_installkylescottmcgill: ah thanks15:23
apt-get_installmany thanks :)15:24
jhsdI selected "Something Else" from the two options but I can't see any partitions. :/15:24
MonkeyDustjhsd  use gparted while running the live session15:24
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dfgashero616: seen that plenty of times, no help. thats if i want to use stock bios and dual boot chrome os and ubuntu15:25
jhsdWhen I open gParted, I can see an "unallocated partition"15:25
OerHeksalperkanat, this might be a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Desktop/PXE run that service on your private lan15:25
MonkeyDustjhsd  that's good, now create partition15:26
jhsdand I can't open it. It says i can't have a parition outisde the dsk15:26
jhsdI already have windows now. i am trying to dual boot, monkeydust15:26
alperkanatOerHeks: afaik maas already runs a DHCP server with PXE preconfigured15:26
dfgasapt-get_install: did you see my response?15:26
adam-33Can anybody help me regarding swap encrytion?15:27
Lofde_is there an alpha build of ubuntu for android i can download and install on my galaxy nexus :D?15:28
velenohello. I'm searching for the URLs to use in the sources.list for a 10.10 Maverick distribution. the links I was using until now do not work anymore15:28
apt-get_installdfgas: does grub load?15:28
MonkeyDustjhsd  i've never seen the error message you mention, can you show a screenshot? http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add15:28
apt-get_installdfgas: do u reach the grub prompt?15:29
benkaiserLofde_: not atm15:29
kylescottmcgillthey should setup a Ubuntu Mobile channel, its been pretty big news in here today15:29
benkaiserits #ubuntu-phone15:29
kylescottmcgilllol15:29
Lofde_is there a website to sign up benkaiser to become notified.. as a developer/alpha tester15:29
MonkeyDustveleno  maverick is !eol, no longer maintained or supported15:30
K1rk|WorkHey anyone ever get an unhandled page fault exception when running an MSI package with WINE?  I'm trying to install Dragon Naturally Speaking on Ubuntu 12.04 with WINE 1.5.20 and I'm getting this error...  http://binaryimpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/backtrace.txt15:30
jrtappers_can someone help me install the drivers for the Radeon HD 6310 plz15:30
dfgasapt-get_install: not at all15:30
velenoMonkeyDust: i don't want new packages, but just to be abler o install the old ones.. EoL means i can't get those any in case ?15:30
apt-get_installjrtappers_: dosent jockey work?15:31
jrtappers_apt-get_install, Nope :C15:31
apt-get_installdfgas: can u boot useing livecd?15:31
apt-get_install*usingh15:31
apt-get_install*using15:31
MonkeyDustveleno  maybe try this link http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/15:32
velenoMonkeyDust: that link provides the .iso files to download the images. it doesn't seem to offer a repository with the old maverick packages, does it ?15:33
NeoColossus1020_Is there a quick way to copy a file while renaming it and storing it in a different dir than the current dir?15:33
dfgasapt-get_install: yes and ubuntu installs just fine15:33
RicCrouch@jrtappers_ : Have you tried the "Additional Drivers" item in system settings?15:33
jribNeoColossus1020_: you mean in the gui?15:33
apt-get_installdfgas: but u cant boot?15:33
NeoColossus1020_jrib, in terminal.15:34
jribNeoColossus1020_: uh, just use cp15:34
jrtappers_tried the Additional drivers, it fails Log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492287/15:34
apt-get_installmikecmpbll: 64 or 32 bit?15:34
dfgasapt-get_install: when the install is done and goto reboot no15:34
jribNeoColossus1020_: cp oldfile newfile15:34
mikecmpbll8bit15:34
kylescottmcgillim not looking to start a flame war, but in terms of generic widget based applets, is bash or lua faster? anyone have any experience with both?15:34
NeoColossus1020_But I also need it to mv to a different dir after it is renamed.15:34
NeoColossus1020_Can I pipe this?15:34
apt-get_installdfgas: so, after install, u go to rebbot, and then it doesnt srart?15:34
apt-get_installjrtappers_: 32 or 64 bit?15:35
jrtappers_3215:35
jribNeoColossus1020_: cp oldpath newpath15:35
jribNeoColossus1020_: try it...15:35
apt-get_installjrtappers_: ah15:35
K1rk|WorkMy WINE question is now posted on the forums.  www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1243597215:35
Touhou11kylescottmcgill: I'd suspect Lua, and besides you would be a glutton for punishment trying to write more than a few lines in bash15:35
NeoColossus1020_jrib: So then: cp /this/file ~/this/tmp15:36
jrtappers_apt-get_install, and the red no entry sign shows up after i try15:36
jribNeoColossus1020_: sure15:36
F3Speechtrying to write/re-edit an init.d script to run a python app but when I 'start' it i get the error "/usr/bin/python already running." which it is as another daemon. Can anyone help me debug this problem.15:36
kylescottmcgillTouhou11: good point, i use Awesome WM, but have seen a bunch of bash scripts, so wondered which was... not better, but more suited to the job15:36
kylescottmcgillty15:36
jrtappers_An eeror occured, please run package manager or apt-get to see what is wrong15:37
dfgasapt-get_install: correct15:37
apt-get_installjrtappers_: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English see threre15:37
Miebster1what could cause dd to only copy the first 34 megs of a file and then stop?  No matter what I put in for ibs, bs, or skip, the output file is always the same length, and never as long as it should be15:38
NeoColossus1020_guessing it needs a specific argument15:38
kylescottmcgillMiebster1: your not running out of space are you?15:38
TakeItEZMiebster1: dd if=foo of=bar bs=24M count=115:38
rumpe1Miebster1, need more infos (command line?)15:38
apt-get_installdfgas: ok, have u tried installing grub via livecd and then install ubuntu?15:39
apt-get_installor, install ubuntu and then insall grub?15:39
Miebster1dd ibs=1M if=package.fw2 of=package.tar15:39
Miebster1-rw-r--r--    1 root     root     93869480 Jan  3 09:29 package.fw215:39
Miebster1-rw-r--r--    1 root     root     34000896 Jan  3 09:37 package.tar15:39
jrtappers_apt-get_install, beta or the other?15:39
apt-get_installjrtappers_: try the syable one15:40
dfgasapt-get_install: no. idk how to do that15:40
Miebster1I'm ssh'd into a device, is there an easy way to check remaining space?15:40
apt-get_install*stable15:40
adam-33Can anybody help me regarding swap encrytion?15:40
mmarc__2Please, anyone: In Ubuntu - do we have any mailing list related to PPA questions??15:40
kylescottmcgillMiebster1: df -h15:40
apt-get_installdfgas: install ubuntu as usual, then boot up via live cd15:40
jrtappers_apt-get_install, last time I tried this I had to purge it15:41
dfgasapt-get_install: already installed and on live cd right now15:41
rumpe1Miebster1, is there a reason why you only specify a custom blocksize for the input and not for the output?15:41
apt-get_installdfgas: okey, install grub2 uefi et_install, last time I tried this I had t15:42
apt-get_installjrtappers_: okey, try the beta then15:42
jrtappers_apt-get_install, think I did something wrong15:42
kylescottmcgilldfgas: are you dual booting, on an uefi motherboard, and what partition is your HDD in? GPT/MBR15:42
Miebster1rumpe1: becuase I will add skip=1, i'm just trying to trim off the first 340 bytes15:42
jrtappers_last time15:42
Miebster1yes I was running out of space15:42
Miebster1thanks guys :)15:42
kylescottmcgillMiebster1: :)15:42
BluesKajadam-33, swap encrytion is optional not default afaik15:43
apt-get_installdfgas: opps, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting15:43
benkaiserLofde_: I don't have a clue... They are apparently  releasing a galaxy nexus image in a week or so15:43
BluesKajadam-33, encryption15:43
jrtappers_apt-get_install, downloaded it, what now, I did it wrong last time15:43
Lofde_benkaiser, thanks15:43
Miebster1Is there an easier way to trim off some bytes at the beginning of a file?15:43
NeoColossus1020_cp -fs ~/dir/test ~/dir/tmp/test.bak seemed to work.15:43
adam-33BluesKaj, when it is activated, is it using ephemeral keys?15:44
BluesKajadam-33, what are ephemeral keys ? :)15:44
jribNeoColossus1020_: erm, -s will make a symlink, not copy...15:44
NeoColossus1020_Right, I was wondering about that. How is it different?15:44
dfgasapt-get_install: ? i don't understand15:45
xroHi, i use dynamips but i get CPU load = 200%... do you know the problem? is there a fix? i use 12.0415:45
kylescottmcgillNeoColossus1020_: Symlinks are basically shortcuts15:45
kylescottmcgillcp -rvf <old> <new>15:45
jribNeoColossus1020_: it's like a shortcut that points to the original file.  If you delete the original, you'll be left with a shortcut that points to nothing :)15:45
jribyou just need cp old new15:45
NeoColossus1020_If you make edits to the original, does it effect the symlink?15:45
MonkeyDustxro  dynamips is a Cisco thingy... server?15:45
adam-33BluesKaj, as far as I know, they are alive only for a session and the next time you turn on the machine, there will be a new key.15:45
apt-get_installdfgas: u must build and install grub 2 (u)efi15:45
xroMonkeyDust, yes it is used by gsn3 (network simulator)15:46
apt-get_installdfgas: just do as the site says15:46
dfgasapt-get_install: oh i need download grub2 source?15:46
jribNeoColossus1020_: the symlink just points to the original file.  If you make edits to the original file, then the symlink points at your file (with the edits of course)15:46
MonkeyDustxro  #ubuntu-server15:46
apt-get_installdfgas: yea15:46
apt-get_installand install it15:47
apt-get_installmanually15:47
BluesKajadam-33, no idea , I didn't even know encrypting the swap partition or the data held there was someting to be concerned about15:47
NeoColossus1020_Okay yeah, definitely don't want that then. I want to be able to to store the original as a backup and then make edits to the one copied from, having the original to go back to when needed.15:47
dfgasapt-get_install: i should be chrooted into my install right when i do this?15:47
xroMonkeyDust, why? i use it in a "normal" ubuntu distro... not a server one15:47
sachaelanyone know of a civilized way of streaming radio streams in console, apart from mplayer?15:47
jribNeoColossus1020_: cp old new15:48
kylescottmcgillBluesKaj: normally you wouldnt really encrypt it, you would leave the parition RAW, so its faster to read and write, in the GOVT everything has to be encrypted, but you could retreive stuff out of swap if your uber15:48
MonkeyDustxro  i asked "server?", you said yes... nvm the other channel then15:48
Touhou11sachael: VLC has a CLI15:48
jribsachael: what's wrong with mplayer?15:48
ivotklHello. =)15:48
jrtappers_how can I fix apt get, I have an "unmet dependency" that wont install and so its all stuck?15:48
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jribjrtappers_: you need to pastebin your command and full output15:48
apt-get_installdfgas: i think so. never installed grub 2 manually before15:49
kylescottmcgillsachael: you could pipe something to your /dev/speakers but that would be a mission, i would just use mplayer, or something else like cmus or something15:49
xroMonkeyDust, ohhh i did not understand "...server?"   so, my answer is no. not server :P15:49
apt-get_installdfgas: chrooted into / should be a good idea15:49
dfgasapt-get_install: i did install grub-efi and did a grub-install and it found everything and looked like it installed but same thing, no boot partition found15:50
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haolehey there... I want to create a package with checkinstall but not to install it (I don't want to give all those scripts super-user privileges), but using --install=no doesn't work... what can I do?15:50
PeanutHi folks - I'm trying to do an automated install of a number of nodes using 'preseed'. Despite specifying language, country and locale in the preseed file, the installation still prompts me for a locale. I'm using the example on the Ubuntu site, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html15:50
BluesKajkylescottmcgill, so wouldn't using an encrypted drive cover the defintion of encrypted data stored in swap /15:50
apt-get_installdfgas: chrooted?15:50
dfgasapt-get_install: yup15:50
kylescottmcgillBluesKaj: using an Encrypted Drive yes, but normally only partitions are encrypted (normally)15:51
apt-get_installdfgas: strange... configured grub?15:51
jrtappers_jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492332/15:51
apt-get_installdfgas:  see http://askubuntu.com/questions/143347/grub2-efi-where-is-my-efi-partition15:51
dfgasapt-get_install: it said it did15:51
dfgasmaybe i am missing something15:51
dfgasi messed with boot flags and nothing either15:51
kylescottmcgilldfgas: where did you install grub? /dev/sda pr /dev/sda1 etc?15:52
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kylescottmcgillon EFI boards, you need a /boot/efi partition15:52
adam-33kylescottmcgill, are you familiar with ephemeral keys?15:52
kylescottmcgilladam-33: barely, whats the issue your having?15:52
BluesKajthank God I'm an ordinary home user withot the need for "on the job" dificulties like dealing with govt data rules :)15:53
Picisorry16:05
OerHeksbe op first ;-)16:05
jrtappers_gir16:05
jrtappers_sorry, typpo16:05
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bahamaskylescottmcgill: ok, thanks. I'll write it down and try it next time I have the problem.16:06
kylescottmcgilllol, what were you trying to say?16:06
bahamaskylescottmcgill: btw, do you have a technical explanation of this error? I'm curious what's going on16:07
kylescottmcgillbahamas: good luck :) there should be a better fix unless your using the b43 drivers for a broadcom wifi adapter16:07
BobMarleyhello, i am using the touchpad, when i click on something with the left click t is clicking 2 times, when i drag the gmaps, i can hardly do that, when i try to select a text somewhere with the left click and draging the touchpad i am also not able to do that, so what is happening? i was able to do that a few days ago16:08
kylescottmcgillbahamas: that error message looks like it has found another device listed on the same 'descriptor' and then it retries and it manages to fix it, because the dmesg time is close to boot up, i would say you have a conflict of drivers, so you should do some more digging and blacklist a kernal mod, generally for the time being restarting the network daemon should get you going again16:09
wasutton3does anyone know if i'll be able to download the ubuntu phone os to emulate and tinker with?16:10
kylescottmcgillBobMarley: sounds like your sensitivity is too high, you should be able to configure this in your mouse settings, and enable disable multi-touch16:10
bahamaskylescottmcgill: I see. I don't understand why there should be several drivers doing the same thing. it would make sense for ubuntu to only pack the right driver16:11
bp0I have a problem that I need help describing: In Ubuntu 12.04, if I turn bluetooth off and then wait until the display turns off/locks bluetooth cant be turned on again without restarting16:11
bahamaskylescottmcgill: btw, when I run lshw -C network, brcmsmac is listed as the name of the wireless driver16:12
kylescottmcgillbahamas: I have a Macbook with Ubuntu installed on it, and it tries to use the open source drivers, and then the closed source ones, so i have to black list the closed source ones, this is more or less a typical scenario of the kernal thinks it knows the correct ones, but in the end they dont work, so i have to pick the ones that do16:12
kylescottmcgillisnt brcmsmac no longer supported?16:12
kylescottmcgillwhat version of Ubuntu are you running?16:12
BobMarleykylescottmcgill, thanks16:13
hamstermNICKban hime16:13
bahamaskylescottmcgill: 11.1016:15
hamstermNICKnn upagrdePRIVMSG #ubuntu :nn upagrde16:15
kylescottmcgillbahamas: ok, im on 12.10, and in the docs for the mactel support, it has those drivers as being old16:15
bahamaskylescottmcgill: I see. I'm reluctant to dig too deep in this driver thing, because I've had problems with the wireless in the past and only upgrading ubuntu made them go away16:17
bahamasmore or less. currently, they're pretty rare16:17
WeThePeoplehow do i kill more that 1 proc at once>>> kill 1987 1986 1982 ???16:17
TakeItEZWeThePeople: exactly16:18
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disdihi16:22
hellslingerugg... does anyone know how to get "Blur Windows" back to the list of effects in CompizConfig?16:23
sigmahi guys16:23
symaxianLooking to keep one or more encrypted text files, is there an editor that will handle that in the background, if not whats the easiest way to decrypt, edit, and encrypt16:23
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disdihhhhhh16:24
kylescottmcgillsymaxian: LibreOffice *might* do that, but apart from that i dont know sorry, someone else might16:24
symaxianhm, hadnt thought of libreoffice16:24
jrtappers_symaxian, Truecrypt?16:26
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symaxiank, I'll check it out16:27
drdoomhi!!16:27
symaxianAn old friend had a program that hid/showed a terminal window from the top of the screen, what was that?16:28
AndreUbuntucan anybody help me get my integrated webcam to work in Ubuntu 12.10.....Cheese gives a black image, so does skype.....and gstreamer-properties (which detects my HP Truevision HD cam) says [Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Failed trying to get video frames from device "/dev/video0"]16:28
candehi guys..16:28
disdihi ]16:28
drdoom@symaxizn i think you ran it by typing "yakuake"16:29
AndreUbuntusymaxian, guake16:29
symaxianthanks16:29
nocturiushi, is there a way to setup LUKS encryption with the 12.10 installer while defining your own partition setup?16:29
disdihmmm16:29
nocturiusi chose 12.10 because it provided out-of-the-box encryption, but i want to multi-boot16:29
user_ciao16:29
candei have a question regarding kernel panik during install16:29
candewhere can i find information about this?16:29
drdoomHow can i install python3 with python2 without breaking anything on ubuntu 12.4 LTS.I need (default)python2 for all my stuff and python3 for simple task only16:30
atlefAndreUbuntu, try luvcview16:30
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kylescottmcgillcande: whats the error message of the panic?16:31
drdoomHow can i install python3 with python2 without breaking anything on ubuntu 12.4 LTS.I need (default)python2 for all my stuff and python3 for simple task only16:31
AndreUbuntuatlef, luvcview also finds the device, but gives ERROR opening V4L interface: No such file or directory16:31
Picidrdoom: just install the python3 package.16:31
SazpaimonCan someone give me some bash code to help determine the next block device? I'm trying to programmatically attach EC2 EBS volumes16:31
atlefAndreUbuntu, ah, then i dont know16:31
drdoomi will but i am afraid it will become default package16:32
candekylescottmcgill,  Hardware Error: cpu 3: Machine check exception: 5 Bank 616:32
Picidrdoom: it won't.16:32
AndreUbuntuthanks anyway atlef16:32
Sazpaimonso for example, if the current last block device is /dev/xvda1, the next should be /dev/xvda2, then xvda3..xvda15, then xvdb1, xvdb2, etc16:32
ZenMastahey guys, I just tried to repurpose an old hp, the install seemed to go just fine from the live cd as well as first boot, but then 2nd boot and others I cant boot and I get this error ubuntu drm_crtc_helper_set_config *ERROR* failed to set mod on [CRTC:10]16:32
drdoomok thanks i am going to install it16:32
kylescottmcgillcande: what CPU do you have?16:32
robertoaaaaciao16:33
candekylescottmcgill, intel core i516:33
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ZenMastaso, frustrated I left it a lone for a couple weeks and just now tried booting up, I got a console but no errors, I tried to startx but its only shown the desktop background for the last 5 minutes :(16:33
candeokej, now the installation worked for once16:34
sozirarakhello, which version of ubuntu do you suggest to install in philips freevents x50gr notebook?16:36
kylescottmcgillcande: from what i have read, its your CPU 3 over heating, you should install a fan controller as soon as its all set up, what kind of laptop or desktop are you using?16:36
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kylescottmcgillZenMasta: what version of Ubuntu do you have?16:37
candekylescottmcgill,  Samsung series 9 NP900X3C-A01SE16:37
candeSE as in swedish16:38
ZenMastakylescottmcgill 12.1016:39
kylescottmcgillcande: if you have future problems search Google for Series 9 Overheating, there are lots of posts of people experiencing fan control issues16:41
candekylescottmcgill, thanx, will do that16:41
Steve132I'm having trouble getting a floppy drive to work.  Anyone have any experience with that?16:42
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: can you jump back into TTY1 and cat .xsession-errors16:42
ZenMastaInteresting thing just happened. As I mentioned, it had seemed to hault tryin g to load the desktop so I pressed the power button hoping it would do a graceful shutdown. but instead it brought me back to a terminal16:42
Steve132I'm on Ubuntu 12.1016:42
ZenMastakylescottmcgill ok brb have to walk over to that computer16:42
kylescottmcgillkk16:42
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: sudo dmesg might give you some more hints as to what is happening too, but by the sounds of it you need to install some GFX drivers, or something16:43
ichoh16:44
kylescottmcgillIf lightdm (login screen works) but nothing after that it might be something else, xsession-errors should give you an idea of whats going wrong16:44
kylescottmcgillalso sudo service lightdm restart can help sometimes16:44
christine_hi i have ubuntu 12.04 and i need the patch for preciswe16:47
christine_pricision16:47
kylescottmcgillprecise?16:48
ZenMastakylescottmcgill there was a lot scrolling on screen really fast16:48
ZenMastaI'm gonna install open ssh so I dont have to keep running back and forth16:48
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: sounds like your xsession doesnt like you, so it could be a couple of things, but if you less .xsession-errors you can scroll through it16:49
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: before you go16:49
lessshastehow do you get chromium to open word attachments using libreoffice and not abiword?16:49
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: rm .xsessions-errors ; sudo service lightdm restart16:49
christine_hi can anyone help me with a patch for precision ubuntu 12.0416:49
kylescottmcgillthen try login, wait for it to stall16:49
ZenMastaokay Ill try that16:50
kylescottmcgilljump into TTY1 and less .xsession-errors and you will have fresh errors to look at, at the very top it should say something that went wrong16:50
kylescottmcgilland give us something to google16:50
AndreUbuntuAnybody can help with: gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Failed trying to get video frames from device "/dev/video0"16:50
rhinuxHi all! I have a ubuntu 12.10 and can't login anymore, worked long time w/o probs. After entering Password in GUI Login, short blinking into textmode (bit cant read anything) and back to Login, _without_ error msg "wrong PW"  or something else. I can login via Alt-Ctrl-F1 to textconsole, but in which log file should I search for understand the problem and repair it?16:50
kylescottmcgilllessshaste: you have to change the mime / default file associations, inside System Settings under Details there will be a default Applications menu16:51
Steve132I try putting any disk in my floppy drive, and it says "input/output error" when I navigate to /media/floppy and run ls16:51
Dj_FlyBywould it be wise/easy to "upgrade" a media/web server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS through the "Update Manager" ?16:51
rsserae, does it take long time to release ubuntu mobile? I saw the Mark Shuthland talking about ubuntu mobile16:51
kylescottmcgillSteve132: LOL really?16:51
kylescottmcgilla floppy disk :D16:51
skulltipi purchased legend of grimrock through the ubuntu store. when i install the next version of ubuntu, will it see i already purchased it in 12.04?16:51
yugniplessshaste, you can right-click a word type file and choose "open with" and choose libreoffice rather than abiword16:52
rsserSutherland*16:52
lessshasteyugnip, you can't sadly in gmail16:52
yugnipyou click that file once it's downloaded16:52
Steve132kyelescottmcgill: yep16:52
lessshasteyugnip, it seems that ubuntu is set to open that type of file with abiword16:52
lessshasteyugnip, sure but I would like the default app not to be abiword16:52
kylescottmcgillrhinux: ~/.xsession-errors will have most of your X Server errors, thats a good place to start16:53
yugnipwhen you right click you have the option to set as default16:53
Steve132If I open /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules like http://www.securitybeacon.com/?p=1110 suggests, I see something else completely, something about disabling ide devices and floppies16:53
yugniplessshaste, the option for default is there, just check the box16:53
jrtappersCan someone help, I rebooted after some commands and i've lost unity16:53
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: what were the commands?16:54
lessshasteyugnip, there isn't one.. I am in lubuntu which may make a difference16:54
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: sudo apt-get install unity will reinstall it16:54
disdiKICK _IRON16:54
disdikick _iron16:54
rhinux@Steve132 cooool! I still have some old 3 1/2" Disks and the older 5 1/4" are gone. my old drive crashed, so I cant read the old data anymore :(16:54
Steve132kylescottmcgill: My parents have a new computer, but the mobo has a floppy connection, we have old floppy drives lying around, and my family has years of old backups of stuff archived on floppy disk from the 90s16:54
yugniplessshaste, should not matter, there should be a box when you choose open with that says use as default16:55
Steve132that they never got rid of16:55
Picidisdi: can we help you?16:55
disdii am learning irc16:55
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Steve132soo...it seems appropriate to make sure their new ubuntu machine has a working floppy drive so they can recover all those old memories..16:55
kylescottmcgillSteve132: fair enough, as for mounting your Floppy Disk, im sorry i havnt used floppy on linux before, someone else might be able to help sorry :)16:55
disdisry to offend anyone16:55
yugniplessshaste, should not be different with thunar as opposed to nautilus16:55
Steve132ok16:55
Picidisdi: learn in your own channel please, #ubuntu is busy enough as it is.16:55
nearsthii16:56
lessshasteyugnip, ok.. thanks16:56
Dj_FlyBywould it be wise/easy/safe to "upgrade" a media/web server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS through the "Update Manager" ?16:56
kylescottmcgilllessshaste: was the Default options not in System Settings -> Details? alternatively you could sudo apt-get remove abiword16:56
fogusHow do I find out what user bind9 is being started as by "service"?16:57
kylescottmcgillDj_FlyBy: is this a production server? eg are you hosting other peoples stuff on it?16:57
home-horimhi, i'm on ubuntu and looking for a dvd burnung program that allows spanning over multiple disks16:57
Dj_FlyBykylescottmcgill: Production yes, but all the sites are my own. so a little downtime isn't so bad if it happens.16:58
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lessshastekylescottmcgill, systems setings doesn't have details16:58
kylescottmcgillDj_FlyBy: i would back it up and sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade16:58
yugniplessshaste, see my screenshot and not where the cursor is http://imgur.com/dksGg16:58
qhartmanfogus, as root or with sudo do "ps aux | grep bind" it will tell you what user is running the process.16:58
kylescottmcgillbut fresh installs are always preferred (at least in my opinion)16:59
qhartmanfogus, You can also look in the init scripts, it should be listed there.16:59
RollinV2anyone here have ubuntu running on the c7 chromebook? i have a few performance questions16:59
Dj_FlyBykylescottmcgill: what would be the critical things to backup? I am assuming it won't delete my data... or is that wrong to assume17:00
home-horimhey, do you know any?17:00
fogusSo, I'll go the init route.17:00
home-horimi can't burn the regular way17:00
kylescottmcgilllessshaste: oh right sorry :) you could try something on here : http://www.howtogeek.com/117709/how-to-change-your-default-applications-on-ubuntu-4-ways/17:00
nearstwhats up17:00
lessshasteyugnip, I am looking at it17:01
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, I think its an X11 problem KDE is broken aswell17:01
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home-horimdo you know where can i get help with a burning software that allows spaning?\17:01
kylescottmcgillDj_FlyBy: i wouldnt think it would either, it would be safe to assume that your user data is safe, but i would back up your sites, mysql (if you use it) and your apache host file(s)17:01
jrtapperskylescottmcgill,  I have screenlets , wallpaper and desktop icons17:02
WeThePeoplewhen i drag and drop a icon from /usr/share/applications the icon doesnt show up on my desktop..??17:02
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: did it go into Fallback mode?17:02
jrtappersI don't know17:02
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jrtappersI can run terminal and xchat17:02
jrtappersso how can I fix this problem?17:03
kylescottmcgillhmmm, wierd... thats all you need? isnt it :)17:03
kylescottmcgillif Unity wont install i would check your .desktop files17:03
kylescottmcgillhang on i will find the path17:03
atlefhome-horim, there is diskspan,17:03
philinuxhome-horim: i think k3b can do it not sure about brasero17:03
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fogusqhartman: where in the init script is the username?  I see that "bind" is mentioned, so I changed the ownership to bind:bind, but that didn't help.17:03
jrtappersno, unity is installed, just not working17:03
jrtapperssame with KDE, so it may be X11 to blaim17:03
yugniplessshaste, i just checked and it works with thunar and pacmanfm as well as nautilus17:03
lessshasteok thanks17:04
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lessshasteyugnip, not in archive manager it seems17:04
lessshasteyugnip, which doesn't have such an option17:04
lessshastegnome archive manager that is17:04
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: i would check your these files to make sure they are set correctly, locate .session17:04
yugniplessshaste, opeing an archive is different than a word file17:04
Safa_[A_boy]I loved ubuntu for phones ^_^17:05
lessshasteyugnip, right but the word file is in the zip in this particular case17:05
lessshasteyugnip, so I am opening the word file17:05
kylescottmcgill.xsession-errors should have errors in it relating to your unity and KDE not apprearing properly too17:05
yugniplessshaste, you can choose which archiver to open an archive, OR you could choose which app to open a word file17:05
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, where is that?17:05
Safa_[A_boy]is there a way for translating it?17:05
yugniplessshaste, in either case you must right click that specific file17:05
lessshasteyugnip, right.. a) when in gmail I have no option it just opens abiword.. if I choose the download as zip option from gmail it gives me archive manager then17:06
kylescottmcgill~/.xsession-errors17:06
kylescottmcgillso17:06
kylescottmcgillless ~/.xsession-errors17:06
lessshasteI just need to change the defaults in lubuntu somehow17:06
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yugniplessshaste, download the file, unzip it, right click and make default changes, then from now on it will be as you chose17:07
kylescottmcgilllessshaste: sudo update-alternatives ā€“config editor then after you have made your changes, sudo update-alternatives ā€“all17:07
kylescottmcgillif yugnip's suggestion doesnt work17:07
atlefhome-horim, or dar "disk archive"17:07
qhartmanfogus, what17:08
jrtappersSorry, no web browser so no pastebin17:08
qhartman's your actual problem?17:08
jrtappersjames@ubuntu:~$ cat .xsession-errors17:08
jrtappers/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:08
jrtappers/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:08
jrtappersgnome-session[2170]: WARNING: Session 'ubuntu' runnable check failed: Exited with code 12717:08
jrtappersunity-2d-panel: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:08
FloodBot1jrtappers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:08
jrtappersunity-2d-shell: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:08
fogusqhartman: I am getting this error in my bind startup log: "isc_stdio_open '/var/log/bind.log' failed: permission denied"17:08
lessshastekylescottmcgill, sudo update-alternatives ā€“config editor17:08
lessshasteupdate-alternatives: error: unknown argument `ā€“config'17:08
qhartmanfogus, what are the permissions on that file? I assume it's owned by bind:bind?17:09
lessshastekylescottmcgill, --config17:09
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, so whats the problem17:09
lessshastekylescottmcgill, that's the wrong set of options.. it is all about emacs17:09
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fogusqhartman: I tried bind:bind, but also root:bind.17:09
yugniplessshaste, my suggestion works17:10
jrtappersSorry for the flood, I can only open xchatt and terminal, so I had no other way of showing logs17:10
kylescottmcgilllol17:10
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: pastebin dude :)17:10
kylescottmcgillsounds like you need to reinstall libgl17:10
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: pastebin dude :)17:10
kylescottmcgillsounds like you need to reinstall libgl17:10
FloodBot1kylescottmcgill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:10
fogusqhartman: the init.d/bind9 file sets root:bind for the pid file, so I thought I would try that also17:10
lessshasteyugnip, sure but I still want to change the defaults :) I will ask on askubuntu17:10
yugniplessshaste, it's the proper way to do it as the terminal config is harder than necessary if you arent used to it17:10
lessshasteI am only used to the terminal!17:10
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, how?17:11
yugniplessshaste, you are changing the defaults when you click set as default17:11
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=libgl.so%20ubuntu%20missing&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=67d470d6a8c6f26c&bpcl=40096503&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dGY&biw=1918&bih=97417:11
qhartmanfogus, that's a good idea. You will also need to make sure the permissions are right, not just the ownership. Look at the permissions on the pid file and set the log file the same17:11
jrtappersNo browser17:11
jrtappersI have xchat and terminal17:11
qhartmanjrtappers, install elinks or lynx and you will have a rudimentary browser17:11
kylescottmcgillok hang on then17:11
kylescottmcgilllocate libGL.so17:12
kylescottmcgilltry find libgl first17:12
jrtappersunable to locate package17:12
rhinux@kylescottmcgill thanks for advice with ~/.xsession-errors, I tried in /var/log/* I have to reboot from livecd because of ecryptfs /home partition and the mount private doesnt work from here...17:12
fogusqhartman: I tried 77717:12
josh__Hi ! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and my titlebar (the one with the options for minimise, maximise and close) is missing. How do I restore it ?17:13
home-horimhi, can you tell me what is the software suggested here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12432817:13
kylescottmcgillrhinux: ok good luck17:13
home-horimi can't enter it17:13
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: locate is a command17:13
kylescottmcgilloh wait17:13
kylescottmcgillnevermind17:13
kylescottmcgillcd / ; find . | grep -i libgl.so17:14
home-horimhi, can you tell me what is the software suggested here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12432817:14
jrtapperslocate works, gives back a list17:14
Miebster1what is a linux alternative for greenshot?17:14
kylescottmcgillok so according to the Fix, you would17:15
home-horimi hate ubuntu and windows alike17:15
n0ydAnyone currently using cairo-dock on 12.10? Im having an issue with autohide that I cannot get passed. Tried xfce, tried, gnome, it happens regardless of DE.17:15
kylescottmcgillsudo ln -s /usr/lib/path/to/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/17:15
nearsthmm. i think ubuntu main repo must be joking. replace stable apps with buggy one17:15
n0ydWhen I set cairo-dock to autohide, it doesnt come back on mouseover, unless I happen to mouseover the exact area where the foregound applications icon would be.17:16
qhartmanfogus, and when you checked it after setting those permissions it showed "rwxrwxrwx"?17:16
fogusyes17:16
fogussame error17:16
n0ydIf I mouseover in that exact spot, the dock will come back, otherwise  it stays hidden.17:16
qhartmanfogus, try 770 instead17:16
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: after that, type: unity --reset ; unity --replace; and logout and login if it doesnt appear17:17
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492551/17:17
fogusqhartman: "Jan  3 17:17:08 ns01 named[20273]: isc_stdio_open '/var/log/bind.log' failed: permission denied"17:17
jrtappershow do I logout from terminal17:17
n0ydDamn, I figured no one would have a clue about cairo-dock, oh well, worth a shot.17:18
qhartmanfogus, it's also possible the permissions on the log directory aren't set correctly17:18
josh__jrtappers, 'exit'17:18
kylescottmcgillhang on17:18
fogusqhartman: drwxr-xr-x17:18
ZenMastakylescottmcgill I rebooted, and everything appeared to load fine, after a few minutes of use my screen went black and now it is just displaying error after error. The monitor is not turning off but it keeps flashing black and then printing more stuff on the screen17:18
qhartmanfogus, that should be ok17:19
fogus(for /var/ and /var/log/)17:19
kylescottmcgillsudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/17:19
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: ^^17:19
kylescottmcgillthen sudo service lightdm restart17:19
kylescottmcgillthis will take you to the login screen17:19
fogusqhartman: selinux and apparmor are off17:20
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: at least its a little better? .... you might need some new drivers too17:20
nearstZenMasta, ive face that in my eeepc, ima only use recovery mode to skip that bug flashing17:20
kylescottmcgillnearst: is it a known bug? whats your gfx card in your eeepc?17:21
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, still not working17:21
nearstintel 945GE17:21
josh__kylescottmcgill, Your suggestion,  "unity --reset" , worked for me. Thanks ! :)17:22
ee12059,y,yy17:22
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: what does xsession-errors say now?17:22
ee12059lui17:22
ee12059uiluil17:22
ee12059uilil17:22
ee12059http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492567/17:22
kylescottmcgilllol josh__ your welcome17:22
nearstim set with verbose nomodeset but still flashing, so recovery mode is the way to skip that flashing17:22
jrtapperscannot open shared object file, no file or directory17:22
jrtapperslibGL.so17:23
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: ok, so now if you locate libGL.so is it in /usr/lib/libGL.so.117:23
nearstkylescottmcgill, any idea how to fix that flashing?17:24
iScetHello!17:25
kylescottmcgillnearst: are you on or near the eeepc now? i dont know if there would be a error log for that17:25
ZenMastakylescottmcgill the flashing happened after using the desktop ui, even before the screen started flashing it was having some graphical anomalies, especially when trying to open the dashboard launcher thing. At first it looked like it froze but then it just showed the terminal and all those errors but I couldn't' seem to "get out" so I could type any new commands or anything17:25
nearstim on eeepc now17:25
kylescottmcgillit could be a incorrect xrandr setting, like the hsync is off or it could be gfx drivers, it could really be a million things :S17:25
anomaliesZenMasta, did i having graphical?17:25
anomaliesjust kidding :P17:26
kylescottmcgilllol17:26
iScethey. i was wanting to install the newest ubuntu... i have a dualboot setup now of Mac-Win7 on my HP Probook... was wondering best way to go about repartitioning to not lose any data... anyone have a good idea?17:26
UnnamedUser951Hello. After i mount an SMB share using cifs through /etc/fstab and i try to access/browse it trough apache i get the error "CIFS VFS: Unexpected loockup error -20" on the console. Any help would be greatly appreciated.17:26
benkaiserHey anyone know what could cause this error: "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to play N http://www.thewayoftheninja.org/n_downloads.html17:26
i3earHey I have a question. I am trying to get my system to boot from usb but it doesn't natively support booting from usb. Can I get it to boot from usb using a burned CD or something?17:26
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: you could try nomodeset on the grub boot line, or seeing if you have some newer drivers, if you can google, try googling your GFX card and ubuntu flashing17:26
Dj_FlyBykylescottmcgill: thanks for the info. Ill do a backup of all critical stuff before going ahead with it then. better safe than sorry17:27
Muphridi3ear: you have to boot from a burned cd which has no relation to usb at all17:27
nearsti3ear, maybe your usb not properly booting setup, maybe bios17:27
kylescottmcgillDj_FlyBy: no problem17:27
yugnipi3ear, try plop17:27
i3earnearst, this computer is quite old17:28
kylescottmcgillnearst: yeah im not sure, flashing monitors can be a couple of things17:28
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, Still not working, and all users on my pc are afftecred, tried logging in as guest17:28
nearsti3ear, ya. try to change bios boot order17:28
nearstkylescottmcgill, im not really sure what is the cause, im replace with grub-pc also not work. just confuse. loo17:29
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: can you get to a browser at all? phone/other pc?17:29
yugnipi3ear, try plop for older comps http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/features.html17:29
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, I can get to the browser but I cannot multitask17:29
jrtappersI installed a text browser17:30
i3earyugnip, alright I will17:30
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: http://goo.gl/yQkuj17:30
yugnipi3ear, it should enable you to install from usb on a comp that is too old to allow it17:30
nearsti3ear, maybe antiX17:30
UnnamedUser951Hello. I have mounted an SMB share using cifs through /etc/fstab and when i try to access it trough apache using firefox i get the error "CIFS VFS: Unexpected loockup error -20" on the console. Any help would be greatly appreciated.17:31
fogusqhartman: oh, apparmor is a peristant guy.17:31
kylescottmcgillbrb17:31
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SachAccidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?17:32
ZenMastawhen I boot I don't see the grub loader, this time when I tried to boot up, it just brought up tty1 and some errors17:32
ZenMastamaybe I should use a different distro or older release?17:32
nearstZenMasta, did u try from recovery mode?17:33
alexandrŠæрŠøŠ²ŠµŃ‚17:33
ZenMastahow am I supposed tog et to recovery mode?17:33
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nearstaww17:34
nearstZenMasta, try uncomment the GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" in /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub17:35
floridsdorfhi17:36
Apachezany of you running data=writeback on any of your linuxservers ?17:36
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, that didn''t work17:38
arch_hello. I am having an issue and I could really use some advice... I went to save a file and I noticed in the Places list there is something called "Kev's Phone". I have no idea what or who Kev is. When I hover over it it says it's an ftp link.17:38
jhutchins_wkZenMasta: You should probably read the error messages on the console and try to understand them.17:38
jhutchins_wkZenMasta: They're probably trying to tell you what is wrong so you can try to fix it.17:39
fogusIn case anyone was curious: it was apparmor.17:42
nearstfogus, why with apparmor?17:44
fogusit wouldn't let bind log17:44
SachAccidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?17:45
dryhaywebcam/mic problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210100017:46
kubancCan i install CPanel in ubuntu server 12.10?17:51
ZenMastadoesn't nomodeset only affect graphics before loading the desktop gui?17:51
Therion87Yes17:51
Therion87to kubanc17:51
xxbug3rxx_Hello everyone!17:53
seednodeHello17:53
xxbug3rxx_I'm trying to configure a printer/scanner, anyone have experience?17:53
skulltipsilly question, if i purchase something in ubuntu software center using 12.04, can i reinstall after installing 12.10+ versions?17:53
seednodeNo, sorry, I just have a print server17:53
xxbug3rxx_seednode: thanks anyways.17:54
beachbrakethis is the reply to sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492641/17:55
jrtappershow can I fix when unity fails to load because of missing libGL.so17:55
seednodebeachbrake, when that happens to me, I usually just kill dpkg17:55
seednodeBut that's not exactly safe.17:55
seednodeSo don't trust me on this17:55
romcan some one help me hount my disk from a live cd?17:56
seednodeMy guess is there's a program installing in another TTY or something17:56
beachbrakei tried installing skype17:56
beachbrakeit says the same thing.17:56
seednoderom, you want to mount a disk17:57
seednode?*17:57
nearstlol17:57
romyes17:57
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nearsthi rom. got your pic yet ?17:57
seednodeWhat's the device label of your CD drive?17:57
nearstsr0?17:58
romno i got it working yesterday by your help <nearst> thanks17:58
rombut i tried today the same way17:58
romnot getting it?17:58
nearstwhy ? always start with sudo :)17:58
SachAccidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?17:59
jrtapperscan I copy files from one wubi install disk to another? I have a backup of some files on a wubi disk17:59
rom1 sec il give u the link17:59
kylescottmcgillback17:59
jrtapperskylescottmcgill,  Still not working17:59
nearstSach, try whereis tomboy18:00
jrtappersI have got a backup of /usr/lib/ but its on a wubi disk18:00
Sachnearst: sorry, what do you mean?18:00
nearstwhat u mean delete? on panel bar ? whereis tomboy will give u the link app for execute18:01
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: ok, it should find those files, which is wierd, the only other thing i can suggest at this point is to re-install libgl18:01
jrtappershow can I do that?18:01
kylescottmcgillsudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx (i think, there is about 10 libgl's)18:01
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nearstyup18:02
romhttp://pastebin.ca/229910518:02
rompls check out n let me know?18:03
linuxnoobhello, I've been having trouble setting up my rs232/uart with my microcontroller, is there anyone who'd like to help? I can't seem to be able to find out which device I should select...18:03
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: sudo apt-cache search libgl | grep -i opengl # will list all of the relevant ones at the top18:03
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nearstrom, not sda2, sdb2, sdb3 and sdb518:04
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: im guessing you need the runtime18:04
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, reinstalling the one you said has triggered a lot of movement, so it might work18:04
kylescottmcgillf i hope so :D18:05
romoh that is lame i guess, thanks anyways, do i do the same with sdb?18:05
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, can I use an old copy of the wubi root disk to fix this , copy some files over?18:05
nearstyup. make folder sdb3 and sdb5. then mount18:05
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: i would avoid it, if the libgl was built on another machine, if it was built on the machine your on, you *might* be ok18:06
romthanks dude, need to learn a lot!18:06
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jrtappersIt was built on my machine, this si just a copy of the wubi disks from a week or so ago18:06
jrtappersIl try a reboot now18:06
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: ok good luck18:06
nearst:) ima usually use remastersys to backup my distro18:07
BsimsCups Printing is amazingly slow with my postscript printer... its taking it over two minutes to process the test page, I realize I am running in a vM but 4gigs of ram and a 3ghz cpu shouldn't print that amazingly slow any ideas?18:07
isr45.18:11
losplaya_hello chaps is this the right place for beginners18:11
mikubuntuaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh ... dvd won't play -- error msg says 'dvd may be encrypted' -- its a library copy of 'prince of persia' -- could someone tell me what i may need to install?18:12
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, IT WORKED!!!18:12
Tex_Nicklosplaya_ : it's a ubuntu support channel for users of all levels18:12
nearstjrtappers, nice18:13
losplaya_thanks for that That Tex Nick18:13
isr45could anyone tell me that what is the meaning of "."  and "+" in a file permissions -rw-rw-rw. or -rw-rw-rw-+ ?18:13
Tex_Nicklosplaya_ : np :)18:13
jrtappersisr45, it that x?18:13
losplaya_right where do i start18:14
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: lol awesome, i was hoping it would lol18:14
nearstisr45, man -k permission18:14
isr45jrtappers: yeah18:14
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, I uninstalled the one you said and about 50 things uninstalled because of dependencies18:14
jrtappersA package landslide18:14
losplaya_any one can help out with icast as im trying to to setup a internet station18:14
kylescottmcgilllol18:14
jrtappersisr45, Its the execute permission18:14
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: what i would like to know is why it decided to break18:15
kylescottmcgilljrtappers: but none the less im glad its sorted18:15
jrtapperskylescottmcgill, maybe it wanted to be like windows for a while18:15
isr45jrtappers: i want to know the meaning of "." and "+"18:15
kylescottmcgilllol18:15
jrtappersisr45, the x at the end is execute18:15
nearstidk how to explain it.18:16
jrtapperstry making a .sh script, it wont run, its text18:16
jrtapperschange the execute and its a script and it will run18:16
romhttp://pastebin.ca/229910818:16
rompls tel me what to do now?18:17
iwojI'm trying to connect an external Mac OS drive to my ubuntu machine, but the permissions don't map nicely.18:17
Piciisr45: where do you see the + or . ?18:17
isr45could anyone tell me that what is the meaning of "."  and "+" at the end of a file permissions -rwxrwxrwx. or -rwxrwxrwx+ ?18:17
iwojis there a way to say "uid x on the external drive maps to user y on my local machine"?18:17
isr45Pici: at the end of a file permission18:17
losplaya_icast help any one18:18
atjehcybercan i get some introduct /tmp and /var on linux used for what ?18:18
Pici!hier | atjehcyber18:18
ubottuatjehcyber: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier18:18
nearstlosplaya_, ive no experience on icast. but u can ask any problem here.18:19
Piciisr45: I don't recall ever seeing that in an ls output.18:19
losplaya_cheers nearst18:19
kylescottmcgillisr45: yeah same, can you paste an example?18:19
kylescottmcgillone line will do too btw :)18:20
losplaya_my site will not work with the (www) prefix http://msmatty.co.uk18:21
xibalbahow can i mirror an ubuntu mirror's 12.04.1 ISO list ?18:21
xibalbai want to grab all files from : http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/12.04.1/18:21
mikubuntuafter i RE-installed libdvdread4 -- now the dvd is playing but the video quality is all messed up18:21
xibalbawget just grabs the robots.txt file and dies18:21
mikubuntuaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh ... dvd won't play -- error msg says 'dvd may be encrypted' -- its a library copy of 'prince of persia' -- could someone tell me what i may need to install?18:21
nearstlosplaya_, that mean u not setup www in your dns nameserverrrrrr18:21
mikubuntuafter i RE-installed libdvdread4 -- now the dvd is playing but the video quality is all messed up18:21
losplaya_mikubuntu did you do an update after installing18:21
killerwhat does emacs-goodies-el package contains18:22
SiverHi, I'm wondering how I could export my ubuntu config and import it between 2 ubuntu VMs on the same machine. Anyone who could point me to a good article regarding this?18:22
nearstmikubuntu, try with vlc? or smplayer?18:22
losplaya_let me look at that again nearst ill get back to on that18:23
losplaya_thanks18:23
ElysiumNetis it possible to duplicate an ubuntu installation with dd to a different system with a slightly different hardware configuration?18:23
GlowballCan I find a full list of software differences between normal Ubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome Remix?18:23
spm_DragetWhere are the launcher-icons on the left configured (which file) ?18:23
mikubuntulosplaya, i just did the command from the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs18:23
jrtappersIs elemental OS luna based on Ubuntu18:23
xibalbai just switched to an FTP site18:24
xibalbalooks to be working18:24
nearstlosplaya_, sure. u can test with dig too18:24
SPYGAMEhey, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 and my headphones stopped working. any ideas ?18:24
ElysiumNetthe harddisk available on the remote system is equal or more than on the source system18:24
jrtappersCause all the Icons seem simi;ay18:24
xrealDo you know "Connectify Dispatch"? You can combine any type of connection to ONE and use their combined speed. But it's win32 only. Is this possible for Linux, too?18:24
mikubuntuyes nearst i tried several players -- i did not reboot though, should i try rebooting18:24
jrtappersxreal, I would want connectify hotspot firat18:25
lampe2hey i wanne make a complete system backup to my usbstick how can i achive this ? thx for the help18:25
xrealjrtappers: I don't have use for this :p18:25
jrtappersWindows 7 wifi virtual is one of the few reasons I use 7 now18:25
Sachnearst: sorry, what do you mean?18:26
SachAccidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?18:27
Tex_Nicklampe2 : have a look at this ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131118:31
WeThePeoplesach, check trask18:31
WeThePeopletrash18:31
SachWeThePeople: Thanks, but what is trask?18:31
nearstgrr.. askbuntu is fun18:32
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WeThePeoplesach, trash18:32
kylescottmcgillSach: also check ~/.local/share/tomboy there may be a backup there, if not, it might be gone gone18:32
Sachkylescottmcgill: at that location, there is a backup folder.  Is this is folder of deleted tomboy notes?18:33
losplaya_what do i need to change in my name servers to get my www prefix to work please18:33
nearstsudo apt-get install tomboy18:33
mrmcgibbyMy .xsession-errors file was growing out of control, so I deleted but forgot that other processes are holding it open and I can't reclaim the space.  Any ideas?18:33
fezzikhi18:33
Guest88590when I start cheese, it seems the device it uses is polled from /dev/video0 to some other /dev/videoX.....randomly at different values. During this time, the image is black...then it stops at some value, and the image starts. What's going on?18:33
nearstlosplaya_, setup www to your ip.18:33
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: you should fix a lot of those errors if you can18:33
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: I don't follow18:34
kylescottmcgillSach: maybe, try cat <tomboynote> and see if the one your missing is their18:34
antonio__I'm trying to find out why openshot isn't working18:34
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: I fixed the problem with the file growing, but now I have a huge file that won't go away because other processes are using it.18:34
Sachkylescottmcgill: what is cat?18:35
nearstmeow18:35
losplaya_im going to try and work that thanks18:35
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: .xsession-errors are errors generated by X Server (your GUI for everything) there will be an application that is throwing all of its errors in there, i would try to fix some  of them to prevent that file getting too large18:35
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: Yeah, I fixed the problem there.18:36
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: you should be able to sudo rm .xsession-errors and it wont cause any problems but it will re-create that file and fill it up18:36
tflgen2Hey everyone, just installed 12.04 lts server and am trying to get an email server up and running. I'm having an issue with saslauthd stating that "sasl plain authentication failed: no mechanism available"18:36
ElysiumNetwhat is the best way to copy a machine?18:36
tflgen2ElysiumNet: rsync18:36
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: But it won't actually.  The other processes will still want to write to the deleted file.18:37
nearstuse remastersys and make your own iso and install anywhere :)18:37
ElysiumNettflgen2: entirely18:37
kylescottmcgillSach: sorry these are command line commands, if you using the file manager to get there, just copy those to another location and try open them in Tomboy or Libre Office18:37
tflgen2ElysiumNet: or clonezilla. what are you trying to do?18:37
ElysiumNetmysql database, nginx settings, user permissions, etc18:37
ElysiumNetI am trying to get my production server to another production server :P18:37
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ElysiumNetwith the least amount of disruption possible. this means not stopping services18:38
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: so, when you open a terminal and sudo rm .xsession-errors ; what does it say?18:38
tflgen2ElysiumNet: you should have no trouble rsyncing everything as root between the systems. the only issue is some db's that may not be correctly copied18:38
losplaya_im behind a home router will that make a difference18:38
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: It's deleted.  But lsof shows (correctly) that a bunch of other processes still using the old file.18:38
ElysiumNettflgen2: wouldn't that set the permissions of everyone to root?18:38
ElysiumNet*everything18:38
ElysiumNetI am fine with copying the database seperately at the last minute18:39
bekksmrmcgibby: It will be released after the last file handle is released.18:39
ElysiumNetbut wouldn't copying /etc/ cause problems?18:39
rypervenchetflgen2: You may have problems with InnoDB tables, yeah.18:39
bekksmrmcgibby: Until then, it is still there, but not accessible anymore for new processes.18:39
mrmcgibbybekks: but it's huge and it doesn't look like the processes are going to release it anytime soon.18:39
rypervenchetflgen2: I would just dump the databases then reimport them.18:39
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: as bekks said, also when you logout and login that file will be recreated18:39
kylescottmcgillhow big was the file?18:39
mrmcgibbybekks and kylescottmcgill: I'd rather figure out how to make the file zero size.18:40
ElysiumNetrypervenche: mysql user data...18:40
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: those errors are there for a reason18:40
tflgen2ElysiumNet: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync18:40
bekksmrmcgibby: Release all file handles, and it will be gone.18:40
nearstzero size?18:40
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: but if you REALLLY dont want it18:40
rypervencheElysiumNet: So dump all the databases at once then.18:40
kylescottmcgillln -s /dev/null .xsession-errors18:41
mrmcgibbyOkay, figured it out.  You can access a deleted file by using /proc/<pid>/fd/<fd>.  So if I just do # > /proc/2026/fd/2 it clears out the file./18:41
ElysiumNetrypervenche: *user data*. this includes passwords and such18:41
ElysiumNetwhich requires something else to dump and import properly18:41
ElysiumNetbut I'll figure that out later18:41
mrmcgibbyspace reclaimed without logging out.18:42
rypervenchemysqldump --all-databases18:42
m1r0Hello?18:42
calliehi m1r018:42
kylescottmcgillmrmcgibby: im curious to know how large that file actually was18:42
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: 126 G18:42
kylescottmcgilllol18:43
m1r0I am having trouble installing ubuntu, although ubuntu (says it installs successfully), and it is on the hard disk, it is not being written to mbr, so my computer is booting straight to windows18:43
kylescottmcgillyou know18:43
m1r0My computer has two harddisks, and ubuntu is being installed on the second one18:43
kylescottmcgillit should rotate18:43
calliem1r0, have you seelcted the boot loader drive during the install?18:43
kylescottmcgilland then delete itself after a couple of logins etc18:43
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: probably18:43
mrmcgibbykylescottmcgill: indicator-weather was going crazy and writing to it at about 1mb/s18:44
m1r0Callie: Here's the situation18:44
m1r0I had an older version of ubuntu dualbooting with windows on this computer18:44
m1r0then the grub got corrupted18:44
ElysiumNetrypervenche: that does not include user data...18:44
m1r0so I told windows to fix mbr and boot directly into windows18:44
ElysiumNettflgen2: that article specificly omits /etc/18:44
m1r0now, I'm trying to update ubuntu, so I tell the installer to update18:45
tflgen2no it doesn't. it excludes /dev18:45
ElysiumNeter, nevermind18:45
ElysiumNetI thought that said --include18:45
m1r0(I've also tried to tell it to erase existing ubuntu and reinstall), but it's not installing the bootloader (GRUB)18:45
tflgen2^.^18:45
kylescottmcgillm1r0: you need to change the boot order, if you installed grub on to the second disk18:45
kylescottmcgillby default your BIOS will use the first boot drive which would be windows18:45
bones_hi18:45
calliem1r0, you have to chroot from a livecd, and install grub from there18:45
rypervencheElysiumNet: What exactly do you mean when you say user data?18:45
bekksmrmcgibby: Why didnt you stop indicator-weather then...?18:45
m1r0How do I do that?18:45
ElysiumNetrypervenche: username18:45
ElysiumNetand password, permissions, etc18:45
tflgen2ElysiumNet:18:46
rypervencheElysiumNet: Of what? The database users?18:46
ElysiumNetlast time I did an export/import of that data, it ended in ruins18:46
m1r0I'm going to see if bios lets me specify a hard drive to boot from18:46
Guest15336hello friends18:46
tflgen2whoops. password and user are kept in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow for local users18:46
ElysiumNetrypervenche: one does not just export/import the "mysql" database -_-18:46
ElysiumNettflgen2: different thing :P18:46
tflgen2ElysiumNet: gotcha18:46
rypervencheElysiumNet: You can, but it may not be what you want.18:46
ElysiumNetrypervenche: percona probably has what I need18:47
kylescottmcgillElysiumNet: you can do a mysql-dump of all dbs and then mysql-admin to import them again18:47
abgeekwww.geeknepal #join for technology news and tutorials18:47
ElysiumNetkylescottmcgill: completely different thing >_<18:47
calliem1r0, you want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 to install grub back on the first drive18:47
mrmcgibbybekks: I did18:47
kylescottmcgillElysiumNet: ok i will shutup :D18:48
bekks!hcl > bekks18:48
ubottubekks, please see my private message18:48
Apachezdidnt ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server kernels merge into the same kernel or did I miss something?18:48
m1r0I've tried to reinstall grub18:48
kylescottmcgillnearst: PM'd you18:48
nearstgot it. im doing some conf at terminal. this eeepc almost dead. lol18:49
nearstwhy m1r018:52
guest414561Can any one tell me what the best partition scheme would be for a 250G HD18:54
bekksguest414561: There is no such "best" scheme. It all depends on your needs, requirements and wishes.18:55
guest414561i want to be able to reinstall without losing media and settings18:56
bekksguest414561: Just backup everything before.18:56
nearstuse side by side while installation18:56
bazhangguest414561, use a separate home partition, for starters18:57
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coyotekidI'm trying to install a driver and new to Ubuntu. Used "source" command but it doesn't seem to be recognized. Is there another I should use?18:58
jrtappersSwap18:58
jrtappersSwap, Home, /18:59
bekkscoyotekid: What exactly are you trying?18:59
coyotekid. setup is working.18:59
coyotekidbut I get an alert that i need to be root and it quits.18:59
bekkscoyotekid: What is ". setup" supposed to do?19:00
coyotekidand when I sudo then dot isn't working, for some reason.19:00
bekkscoyotekid: And which Ubuntu do you have exactly?19:00
coyotekiddot setup, that should have read. dot setup is working. setup is my script.19:00
bekkscoyotekid: do you want to source it or do you want to execute it?19:00
coyotekidit's a script to install drivers for a kodak scanner.19:00
guest414561I was reading the below link but it does not seem to give size recommendations http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html#number19:01
Picicoyotekid: source is a shell built-in, its not an executable program.19:01
bekkscoyotekid: And which Ubuntu do you have exactly?19:01
coyotekidI thought dot and source were the same?19:01
coyotekidfor running a bash script?19:01
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: They are, but "./foo.sh" is different from ". foo.sh"19:01
Picicoyotekid: its not the command to run a bash script, its more like 'including' it.19:01
bekkscoyotekid: No. Run a script like "./script" and source it like ". ./script"19:01
coyotekidit's the recent stable unbuntu.19:01
Guest12784hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu via USB stick, but I'm having some trouble19:02
coyotekidI'm not using it with the slash, as a locater.19:02
Guest12784I've tried converting the desktop image via http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx, and also just using netboot/boot.img.gz. However, each time the usb is not recognized as a option during boot. I've tried booting it on a Mac and a PC. Any thoughts on what could be the matter?19:02
coyotekidI'm using it as an abreviated source, which isn't working.19:02
coyotekidbut dot "is".19:02
coyotekidbut not when sudo.19:02
bekkscoyotekid: Sourcing is not executing a script.19:03
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rypervenchecoyotekid: What is the exact command that you're trying to run?19:03
coyotekidI'm in the dir with a script called "setup".19:03
coyotekidwhen I run ". setup" is works, but tells me I need to be root.19:03
coyotekidthen when I sudo it no longer works.19:04
bekks". setup" does NOT run that script.19:04
Picicoyotekid: 'source' has the side effect of running the code, but thats not what it is for.19:04
coyotekidwell, actually, it does.19:04
bekks"./setup" will, ". setup" wont.19:04
coyotekidI get all the info from Kodak, along with info about what drivers will install.19:04
coyotekidbut then it says I need to be root and says hit enter to quit.19:05
Picicoyotekid: use: sudo ./setup19:05
coyotekidI've read dot is the same as "source" in a unix book. Are you saying that's wrong?19:05
Picicoyotekid: no.19:05
Picicoyotekid: but its not the proper way to run a script.19:06
rypervenchecoyotekid: I believe that you are confusing what "source" does.19:06
coyotekidit was my Bash book, by O'reilly, if I'm not mistaking.19:06
rypervenchecoyotekid: . is short for source, yes. But . can also mean "the current working directory".19:06
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coyotekidI'll try with the ./ but that just seems like I'm saying where the setup file is.19:07
coyotekidwhich doesn't say execute, like dot does.19:07
ElysiumNettflgen2: I have noticed that if I do an rsync of /etc/, it will also copy over the ip configuration and software RAID stuff...19:07
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: You still need to either be root or use sudo.19:07
* rypervenche facepalms.19:07
coyotekidor source, if in fact they're one and the same.19:07
ElysiumNetis that a good thing?19:07
Picicoyotekid: YOu need to look at your book again.19:07
rypervenchecoyotekid: "source" does nat mean execute.19:07
tflgen2ElysiumNet:19:08
rypervenchenot*19:08
bekkscoyotekid: They arent the same, and ". " is not the proper way to run a script.19:08
coyotekidso when in sudo . is being read as here. But when not in sudo it seems to be read as source. That makes sense.19:08
tflgen2damnnit i hate this irc clientā€¦.. ip configuration will have to be edited as will fstab19:08
rypervenchecoyotekid: Simply typing out the path to your setup script will execute it.19:08
ElysiumNetany other files I need to be aware of?19:08
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: Giving the path to an executable file *does* say that you want to execute it. Try giving the full path to any executable in the shell.19:08
ElysiumNetalso, the partitions are far larger than on the source machine. I imagine this would screw up the software RAID a bit19:09
tflgen2you'll also have to install the boot loader on the second machine19:09
nearsttflgen2, u can use manually setup than dhcp19:09
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: The only exception is where the directory is not specified, where the shell then looks for the executable in all of the directories in $PATH.19:09
ElysiumNettflgen2: doesn't it already have a boot loader?19:09
tflgen2ElysiumNet: is it a bare system? i.e. no OS?19:09
rypervenchecoyotekid: You can run "sudo ./setup" or "sudo /home/username/Downloads/setup", either will work. (assuming what's where your script is located)19:09
ElysiumNettflgen2: I'm rsyncing to it... I'm pretty sure an OS has to be installed already19:09
ElysiumNetbut yeah, ubuntu is already installed on it19:09
tflgen2nope, not necessary19:09
rypervenchecoyotekid: "source" is something completely different. Do not focus on that.19:10
ElysiumNetrsycing over the network19:10
coyotekidthe bash book says to run a script run source. The has a asterisk and says "you can also use the synonymous command dot (.).19:10
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coyotekidthat's read right from the book.19:10
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: You'll notice that "sudo source setup.sh" will fail in exactly the same way as "sudo . setup", and both are equally wrong in this case.19:10
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: It might be helpful to read the bash manpage entry for "source".19:10
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: You are not understanding what the bash book means to tell you.19:10
rypervenchecoyotekid: Then you're either misreading or you've got a bad book.19:11
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: You are also confusing commands and paths.19:11
tflgen2"For GRUB, it's recommended that you automatically re-generate the grub.cfg file:" i.e. #update-grub19:11
kubancis there any software similar to CPanel for ubuntu server19:11
coyotekid"Source executes the commands in the specified file..."19:11
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: source setup will search your path for a program named setup.19:11
coyotekidMaybe this O'reilly book is wrong.19:11
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: No, just your understanding of it.19:12
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: What coyotekid just told you is wrong.19:12
coyotekidI'm not confusing paths. dot has multiple uses.19:12
padi999hi all19:12
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: The dot by itself does not specify a path.19:12
padi999Is anyone in here into fotography/filming and has a gopro hero 3?19:12
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: ./ does specify a path, the current directory.19:12
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: Sorry, what jhutchins_wk just told you is wrong. source does not search $PATH.19:13
coyotekidNo, what I wrote in quotes was quoted from the O'Reilly book.19:13
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rypervenchecoyotekid: Let's get you a better guide then.19:13
jhutchins_wkJordan_U: Quoting the manpage, " If filename does not contain a slash, file19:13
jhutchins_wk              names in PATH are used to find the directory containing filename."19:13
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: It executes the commands in the file in the current shell, which is not what you want, and is not what is generally meant by "executing a script".19:13
coyotekidboth dot and source have both worked for me up until now. INterchangably.19:13
coyotekidThe only problem I think here is that I'm trying to use it as an argument to sudo.19:14
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: That is just a coincidence.19:14
Jordan_Ujhutchins_wk: I stand corrected, sorry. Still I would find it odd to use source that way.19:14
Picicoyotekid: that definitely won't work for something that isn't a bash script though.19:14
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: If the setup file is executable, sudo ./setup will work.  If not, sudo bash ./setup19:14
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: Try not to let what you have done before prevent you from learning what is correct.19:15
coyotekidIt's not an executable, I'm trying to run a bash script.19:15
GunArmwhich release made unity standard?19:15
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: A bash script may be executable.  Not AN executable, we're talking about permissions in this case.19:16
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: A bash script is an executable file (at least when it has execute permissions).19:16
coyotekidMaybe I'm confused. I'll just mess with it. I don't usually work outside of bash. I'm now messing with a local Ubuntu install for the first time.19:16
blacklineI'm trying to mount a network folder at boot (fstab) according to this manual: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165882819:16
jhutchins_wkcoyotekid: Yes, you're confused.  Try what we have suggested.19:16
blacklineThe network is reachable in Ubuntu 12.10 already but I want it mounted in a folder.19:16
Jordan_Ucoyotekid: Also, where did you get this script from? Installing drivers via a script should generally be avoided if possible.19:16
blacklineAnyone that could help me out?19:16
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thebishopUsing the file/folder chooser in 12.10 several apps fail to set my selection properly.  in at least Deluge, Sound Converter, and Audacity, I choose my save path, and they just use the default anyway (which is my home folder).  Seems like a nautilus problem.19:18
jhutchins_wkblackline: First try mounting it manually.19:18
blacklinejhutchins_wk, good idea. from what I understand it's samba. it's a popcorn hour that share a folder. how do I mount it manually?19:18
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blacklinejhutchins_wk, what info do I need?19:19
rypervenchecoyotekid: Check my private message please.19:19
jhutchins_wkblackline: mount -t cifs //server/share /mount/point19:19
jhutchins_wkblackline: mount -t cifs //server/share /mount/point -o credentials=/path/to/credentials19:20
blacklinejhutchins_wk, "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //pch-c200/share,"19:21
blacklinesame message as when i tried in fstab19:21
superdmpI try to install libpq-dev: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libpq5 libpq-dev" - I am on Ubuntu 10.1019:21
superdmpwhat do you suggest?19:21
TheLordOfTimesuperdmp, upgrade to 11.1019:22
TheLordOfTimeor something newer (10.10's EOL)19:22
superdmpTheLordOfTime:  I can't do that on this machine19:22
jhutchins_wkblackline: Then //pch-c200/share is not a CIFS share.  NFS maybe?19:22
jhutchins_wkblackline: Try it without the credentials first.19:22
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i tried NFS aswell. If I look at the specifications it has both NFS and SAMBA-support.19:23
bazhang!eolupgrades | superdmp19:23
ubottusuperdmp: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:23
jhutchins_wksuperdmp: Where are you installing that from?  THe message means you do not have a matching signature file.19:23
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i'm not using credentials now (while mounting)19:23
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jhutchins_wkblackline: What kind of system is sharing the folder?19:24
superdmpjhutchins_wk:  I used sudo apt-get install19:24
blacklinejhutchins_wk, http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalog&mainItemId=2019:24
superdmpI realise this system is out of date, but I am not currently in a position to update it19:24
Jordan_Usuperdmp: Why not?19:24
blacklinejhutchins_wk, and as said, i can reach it in system (with credentials).19:24
jhutchins_wkblackline: What kind of system is sharing the folder?  Windows?  Linux?19:24
blacklinejhutchins_wk, it should be linux-based, somehow. it's a media center.19:24
jhutchins_wkJordan_U: Whether or not he updates his system is not really relevant to his problem.19:25
aringHi.  I just got a new laptop and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 Desktop on it from a burned disc image and I'm having some problems.  I'm hoping someone here can help.19:25
superdmpJordan_U:  I realise it's out of date, but at the moment, I am not in a position to update it19:26
kylescottmcgillAnyone have Ubuntu install macbook 9,2? and fixed the Wifi Dropoff/timeout issues, nothing i have tried works very well, its driving me insane19:26
Jordan_Usuperdmp: Why not?19:26
kylescottmcgillinstalled*19:26
aringwhen I go to boot from the CD I get the first boot screen from ubuntu (the dark... blue? purple? something), then it goes to the flashing underscore.  It flashes for a while then, adjusts to a higher resolution, flashes some more then freezes.  I tried to run to check disc utility, but it also hangs in the same way.19:28
jhutchins_wkblackline: You bought a device that only has manuals in French and Russian?19:28
Jordan_U!nomodeset | aring19:28
ubottuaring: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:28
blacklinejhutchins_wk, there should be more languages, wait.19:28
superdmpJordan_U:  if you have some suggestion on how what to do about this issue, *given that I am not in a position to update the system*, that would be greatly appreciated19:28
superdmpmore so than an interrogation about why I can't update it right now19:29
aringI'll try that and let you know if it works, thanks.  :)19:29
blacklinejhutchins_wk, http://files.syabas.com/popcornhour/download/PopcornHour_C-200_UserGuide.pdf19:29
jhutchins_wksuperdmp: What I was asking is what is the source of the file you're trying to install?   Is it an official Ubuntu repository, a mirror, a ppd?19:29
jhutchins_wkblackline: I was obliquely suggesting that you might readn the manual, but I'll have a look, not doing anything else right now.19:30
blacklinejhutchins_wk, sorry. yes i've read it when i set it up and it "should" be samba. i have no problems reaching it, i can reach it from this computer as well.19:31
dada9293ciao19:32
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i'm not sure how the manual could help me with mounting so i would really appreciate your help.19:32
dada9293!lista19:32
ubottudada9293: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type Ā« /msg ubottu !bot Ā». If you're looking for a channel, see Ā« /msg ubottu !alis Ā».19:32
ZenMastakylescottmcgill didn't have any luck with recover mode but I ended up downloading and isntalling all the latest updates, and changing the driver. seems to be running fine for the last hour19:32
nearstcool.19:32
superdmpjhutchins_wk: well, this is my sources.list file: http://dpaste.com/862206/19:34
superdmpshould I find some other information to answer your question?19:34
jhutchins_wkblackline: So you have external storage attached to the device and have shared a folder on that device which you are trying to mount.   You may not have correctly set it up as a samba share.19:35
kylescottmcgillZenMasta: sorry we couldnt get it sorted without you having to go through all of that, im glad it works now though :)19:35
blacklinejhutchins_wk, no it's not external, it's a internal sata drive which i've connected internally in the popcorn hour.19:35
jhutchins_wkblackline: 7.1.2 of the manual.19:37
TimvdeI have just installed Ubuntu, but: 1) My touchpad scrolling doesn't work; 2) Windows 8 wasn't detected, so I can't boot to it anymore...19:37
nearstwhy?19:37
jhutchins_wksuperdmp: You'll have to use a different paste service, I can't reach that one.  Got a very suspicious site instead.19:38
superdmpjhutchins_wk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492886/19:39
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bakis_did anyones system just get super fucked up on the newest update?19:41
MonkeyDustbakis_  language19:41
bakis_sorry19:41
nearstouch. what happen bakis_19:41
bakis_i installed the latest updates and my resolution is stuck at 800x600 and none of my window managers are working right19:41
nearstsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?19:42
nearstor xrandr -q19:42
Jordan_Ubakis_: Were you using proprietary drivers?19:42
jhutchins_wksuperdmp: I don't see anything wrong with your sources, try aptitude update && aptitude upgrade to maybe update the key.19:43
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bakis_Jordan_U: yeah i believe i was using the nvidia proprietary package19:43
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superdmpthanks jhutchins_wk  I will try that19:43
superdmpjhutchins_wk: by the way, what was the issue with dpaste.com?19:43
jhutchins_wksuperdmp: Enterprise Firewall probably.19:43
bakis_nearst: it's saying max is 800x60019:44
blacklinejhutchins_wk, there is no problem reaching it through Nautilus at "smb://pch-c200/share/"19:44
bakis_from xrandr -q19:44
Sovethis is getting ridiculous, this linux machine here keeps getting file system errors in sda119:44
nearstya. i having the same issue atm bakis_19:44
blacklinejhutchins_wk, If I look at the settings interface on the Popcorn hour the SAMBA client is up and running.19:45
SoveI already fixed it yesterday, but now it's back19:45
SoveI'm not really in the mood to keep fixing it everyday19:45
Jordan_USove: Have you checked the SMART status of the drive? What type of errors (do you have a log from fsck)?19:45
SoveNeed the commands19:45
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i've looked up the ip-adress for the device if it's any help.19:45
SoveI'm not exactly savvy with linux stuff19:46
jhutchins_wkblackline: You might be able to browse it with smb://<server> but cifs doesn't think it's a samba share.19:46
bakis_nearst: are you also using nvidia prop drivers?19:46
blacklinejhutchins_wk, how do we change cifs mind? :)19:46
superdmpjhutchins_wk:  output from aptitude update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492896/ - that doesn't look right to me, with all those errors19:46
jhutchins_wkSove: File system errors are not normal.  What errors?  We can't tell you how to fix it without knowing the errors. You can use the history command to see what commands you used yesterday.19:47
Jordan_USove: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda19:48
SoveYesterday I just used fcsk19:48
SoveIt said sda1 had errors19:48
aringAlright, I tried running the livecd with nomodeset.  It got to a prompt (ubuntu@ubuntu) and i could input a few commands (ls, pwd, etc).  It then tried to run something else, I believe it might have tried to launch to GUI, however it just went to a black screen.19:48
SoveI used the live CD to get it fixed with sudo fcsk.ext3 -f /dev/sda119:49
nearstbakis_, nope, im on intel gm91519:49
jhutchins_wkSove: Not knowing what you might have done to damage the filesystem errors showing up a second time usually means that the life of the drive is very limited.19:49
Noskcajto run steam in ubuntu do i need 12.04 or can the non-lts build run it fine?19:49
bakis_nearst: weird. is anyone else having this issue?19:49
jhutchins_wkSove: You might have two weeks, you might have two days, you might have two minutes.19:49
SoveI didn't do anything to it19:49
jhutchins_wkSove: In that case the physical drive is dying.19:49
Jordan_USove: Please pastebin the output of the command I gave, and if you get the corruption again please pastebin the full output from fsck.19:50
jhutchins_wkI suppose there's a chance it's a loose cable or something but continuing corruption is a hardware problem.19:50
nearstbakis_, so my max now is 800x600 :) . what can i do. make font small. lol19:50
kylescottmcgillbakis_: you could try setting a new mode, this didnt work for nearst i will admit19:51
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bakis_haha hopefully they'll just release a fix sometime soon, until then i'll just use my laptop i guess19:51
SoveI'm not able to install that tool19:51
Jordan_Ujhutchins_wk: It could be the somewhat spurious error from fsck that many are experiencing that appears to be caused by upstarted failing to properly unmount filesystems at shutdown: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/107343319:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 1073433 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ext4 corruption associated with shutdown of Ubuntu 12.10" [High,Confirmed]19:51
bakis_kylescottmcgill: is there any way to roll-back the update?19:51
jhutchins_wkbakis_: Check dmesg an /var/log/Xorg.0.log for relevant errors.19:51
kylescottmcgillbakis_: what was your screen res prior to the upgrade?19:52
bakis_1920x108019:52
Anunakihi19:52
Jordan_USove: Are you still booted into the LiveCD?19:52
kylescottmcgillwhats your gfx card?19:52
SoveNo19:52
nearstkylescottmcgill, yup. hihi19:52
jhutchins_wkJordan_U: Ouch.\19:52
bakis_geforce gtx 560 ti19:52
SoveJust the root console from recovery19:52
kylescottmcgillare you using open or closed source drivers?19:52
bakis_closed i believe19:52
kylescottmcgillalso yeah, what does Xorg log say?19:52
Catbus_tiem for black metal19:53
Catbus_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvi45xje6w19:53
SoveI'll go and boot it uo from the cd19:53
bakis_kylescottmcgill: just a second. i ran nvidia-settings and it said i'm not using an nvidia card, so i re-ran nvidia-xconfig and i'm gonna restart x19:54
kylescottmcgillkk19:54
blacklinejhutchins_wk, I found this thread http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=14940 and tried "sudo mount -t nfs -o noauto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,tcp 192.168.1.177:/share /mnt/popcorn" but it's the same error.19:54
bakis_so.. be right back19:54
Jordan_Ujhutchins_wk: Indeed. It doesn't actually corrupt anything, but it shows that upstart is failing at a basic requirement of an init system (at least if the current theory on the cause is correct).19:55
ElysiumNetshould I get 12.04 or 12.10?19:55
Anunakianyone have probs with the latest ubuntu and bluetooth?19:55
Jordan_UElysiumNet: Do you like upgrading every ~6 months?19:55
ElysiumNetJordan_U: no19:55
nudelsuppehi, in jockey i see two AMD driver but no obvious difference. which one should i choose?19:56
skp1haha19:56
reprogr`hi19:57
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Jordan_UElysiumNet: Then you'll probably be happier with Ubuntu 12.04 as it's an LTS release. If you stick with LTS releases then you can upgrade once every ~2 years, as you can go directly from one LTS release to the next and they are supported for longer.19:57
aringI can't seem to get ubuntu to install on my new laptop.  nomodeset got me farther, but it still didn't work.19:58
nudelsuppenudelsuppe, hi19:58
ElysiumNetalrighty19:58
ismellello, i'19:58
Anunakii just installed ubuntu 12.10 gnome via wubi. bluetooth isnt working...19:58
h00k!lts | ElysiumNet this may have more info19:58
ubottuElysiumNet this may have more info: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)19:58
Jordan_UAnunaki: I highly recommend against using Wubi, though that's almost certainly not the cause of your bluetooth problems.19:59
ismelli'm running 12.04. How do i get the alt+f2 key combination to open the run dialog? everything I find seems to be about 11.10.19:59
jhutchins_wkSove: This problem is being actively worked.  You could try installing 12.04 instead of 12.10.  One suggested workaround is to shut down networking manually before shutting down/rebooting the system.19:59
jhutchins_wkSove: As Jordan_U said, it's a "cosmetic" bug - there really isn't anything wrong with the actual filesystem, it was just not shut down properly.20:00
ismellI tried installing ccsm but I can't change the run dialog key20:00
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i installed nfs-common and it seems that i reached further, new error message: "sudo apt-get install nfs-common "20:00
Jordan_Ujhutchins_wk: We don't know that that is the problem Sove is having until we get the output from fsck.20:00
blacklinesorry jhutchins_wk, the error was: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177:/share"20:00
jhutchins_wkblackline: Ah, well, a bit confusing that it gave "wrong filesystem type" before, but now it's permissions/credentials.20:01
jhutchins_wkI'm not scoring very well this afternoon.20:01
aringI have a brand new ibuypower CZ-17 and I can't seem to install ubuntu on it.  Can someone please help me?20:01
blacklinejhutchins_wk, maybe. but now i installed nfs and tried mounting as nfs, in compare with samba before.20:02
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WeThePeoplehow to disable tor from running in the background20:02
AnunakiJordan_U im using ubuntu now... not liking the desktop side bar but it works just bluetooth dont20:03
jhutchins_wkblackline: Did you go through 7.1.4 and set up access to the share?20:03
kylescottmcgillWeThePeople: sudo service tor or tord stop20:03
SoveJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/xTUPNPdh20:04
blacklinejhutchins_wk, yes i used nautilus to open the share with my credentials. that was never an issue. i reached it that was from start.20:04
SoveThat's what I got with smartmon thing20:04
WeThePeoplekylescottmcgill, do you know how to stop the daemon from restarting on boot?20:05
jhutchins_wkblackline: Mounting an NFS share at boot is a bit different.20:05
blacklinejhutchins_wk, "192.168.1.100:/share                  /media/popcorn        nfs   noauto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,tcp" ?20:05
Jordan_USove: That looks good, it says that your drive appears to be fine hardware-wise.20:06
jhutchins_wkblackline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Mount_at_startup20:06
SoveThen what could ber wrong with the file system20:06
jhutchins_wkSove: Jordan_U Did find a bug that is causing problems like this.20:06
SoveThe comouter worked fine since istall20:07
SoveThis started yesterday20:07
SoveAnd it worked in the morning20:07
SoveNow it happened agai20:07
hskafihello20:08
hskafiI'm running precise pangolin20:08
atlef!ask | hskafi20:09
ubottuhskafi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:09
hskafimy processor fan starts only at 70 C20:09
jhutchins_wkSove: Do you restart the system often?20:09
hskafiubottu: very well then20:10
ubottuhskafi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:10
nearstlol20:10
jhutchins_wkhskafi: Fans are usually controlled by the BIOS.  What do you want to have happen instead?20:11
hskafimy processor fan works fine when i boot into ubuntu, but after a suspend or hibernation, my processor fan would only work when the processor reaches a temperature of 70 C, I'm running a core2duo 2.1 GHz on a toshiba laptop.20:12
jhutchins_wkhskafi: Ok.20:12
hskafijhutchins_wk: it's not being controlled by bios correctly while on ubuntu, on windows it's working correctly, but on ubuntu it messes up20:13
mollymandyHello20:13
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bakis_yeah none of it worked20:14
aringI've tried to launch LiveCD, version 12.10 on my laptop using nomodeset flag.  This got me past the hang on flashing underscore and instead to a blank screen.  If I press power it goes through the text shutdown process, and so appears to have launched Ubuntu, however it was not displayed on my screen.  I am using an ibuypower CZ-17 laptop.  It has an nvidia graphics card.20:14
bakis_i'm probably just gonna wait until a new update comes out and fixes it..20:14
Sovejhutchins_wk, it's my mom's, she restarts it everyday20:14
Sovehttp://pastebin.com/4dQGcPT5 Seems like I'm not able to perform the fix anymore, either20:15
Jordan_USove: That is a serious error, not the one from the bug report I linked to.20:16
SoveAnd yes20:18
SoveThat same error was what happened yesterday20:18
SoveBut the fix worked that time20:18
Anunakianyway to enable onscreen keyboard at suspend log in?20:18
nearstbakis_, u able to skip that flashing by recovery mode20:19
Anunakiwhats a distro thati can install without keyboard?20:19
ruyssHi, I just installed xampp for linux and now I would like to use it's php in my terminal, anyone that can help me to do that?20:20
nearstinstall without keyboard?20:20
bazhang!xampp | ruyss20:20
ubotturuyss: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.20:20
Jordan_USove: Is all of your Mother's data backed up?20:20
SoveNo20:21
SoveWe don't really have anything to back up data into20:21
Tex_NickAnunaki : at the login screen, there should be an accessibility icon where you can enable onboard20:21
whoeverhi all, is nbstat prart of net-tools? I am tring to run nbstat , and i have net-tools  but keep getting command not found20:22
SoveThat computer was not always a linux comouter, it used to be a Vista20:22
Sovethen it was Mint20:22
SoveThen it became ubuntu20:22
Jordan_USove: What type of files are most important to her? If they're documents then they are probably small enough that they can all be stored on Ubuntu One/Dropbox/email easily.20:22
bazhang File nbstat found in nmap    whoever20:22
SoveI have no idea about her stuff20:23
nearst:D20:24
SoveI figured you're suggesting a reinstall, which I'm not really bothering to do today, it takes too long20:24
Jordan_USove: Backing up is always important. You should figure out what files are important to her and get them backed up somehow, and soon.20:24
Jordan_USove: I'm suggesting that not having backups of important data is bad, and more so when you're getting unexplained filesystem errors.20:25
pangurMy "All Settings" page does not include the option to change what programs to run on startup.  How do I fix that please?20:25
SoveWhen it comes to computers and mom, she's a boot20:25
bakis_nearst: what?20:26
blacklinejhutchins_wk, I suppose I made some progress. I've managed to enter the line in fstab and ran "sudo mount -a" without any errors. The folder I've pointed at is empty though, so the files/folders doen't show. This is the line in fstab: "192.168.1.177:/share /mnt/popcorn nfs credentials=/root/nfs/credentials,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,noatime,tcp 0 0"20:26
Martijn-NLHi everyone - i have a question: is there a tool available for Ubuntu that recovers CD errors? For example light scratches on the CD? Thanks a lot!20:26
SoveEh20:27
SoveIf the disc can't be read, neither can the tool do so20:27
Jordan_Umonkeymon: For data CDs, ddrescue.20:27
pangurWhere can I set what programs to run on start up?20:27
pangurI am trying to configure a Logitech Performance Mouse MX.20:28
jrtappersMartijn-NL, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21876/rescue-old-damaged-cds-with-an-ubuntu-live-cd/20:28
Jordan_Umonkeymon: For audio CDs, cdparanoia might help.20:28
Martijn-NLThe disc is readable... only not for the full 100%20:28
jrtappersJust skip the live cd bit20:28
jrtappersThat will give you an ISO file, which you can burn to a new unscratched cd20:29
Tex_NickMartijn-NL : you can polish those scratches out with a piece of felt and sone fine grade abrasive car polish ... i do it all the time20:30
pangurIs there a way of adjusting the number of available options in the "All Settings" page?20:31
jhutchins_wkblackline: noauto will cause it not to mount at boot.20:32
Tex_Nickpangur : if you're using unity ... type startup in dash20:32
pangurthanks Tex_Nick  :)20:33
zyngawowI was totally disapointed by ubuntu. Probably my fault, but the OS was not smooth, and a lot of things failed. Any suggestions?20:33
Martijn-NLThanks you very much. I will give it a try. It is very frustrating that my good old CDś do not work anymore20:33
Tex_Nickpangur : np20:33
blacklinejhutchins_wk, ok. it doesnt seem to matter what credentials i write. first i had them in a separate file. now i'm trying to write the credential directly in fstab just to see if it works.20:33
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i'm sure about the credentials though and there is nothing, no error, but nothing in the folder neither.20:34
yugnipzyngawow, stick with it.20:34
Jordan_Uzyngawow: Without more specifics on what problems you had I can only recommend that you might have a better experience with certified hardware / hardware that came with Ubuntu pre-installed.20:34
yugnipzyngawow, make sure and update the machine20:35
Jisawesome2I have a problem with my wireless card, it can find the network ok, and it supposedly connects. however, it does not actually connect, and can not access the internet. When I do try to access the internet, it disconnects, and regardless of whether I try to or not, it disconnects after about 60 seconds anyway.20:35
zyngawowI guess it is hardware issue... My specs are: proc: i3 530 gpu: Sapphire Radeon hd7770 RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws CL7 8gb mobo: Shitty HP20:35
yugnipzyngawow, have you updated? and try to be more specific about the trouble20:36
llutzblackline: are you sure "credentials" is a valid mount-option for nfs?20:37
zyngawowWell.. for a start, when I installed Ubuntu, WiFi didnt work. Now it works sometimes.. Also, it says something like I dont have a hardware rendering taking place..20:37
zyngawowI guess that has to do with the low smoothness20:37
blacklinellutz dont know so i changed to: username and password20:38
llutzblackline: since when does nfs use username/password?20:38
llutzblackline: those are cifs options20:39
user_d20:39
Jordan_Uzyngawow: Indeed. Ubuntu 12.10 uses compiz and Unity3D even when there is no GPU accelleration, which means that all of the effects and compositing are done on the CPU, which will be very slow (and will take up CPU that could be used for other things).20:39
Noskcajwhat changes do i have to make to run ubuntu 12.10 run well on an ssd (ocz vector 240gb), i have a 1tb hard drive as well20:39
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blacklinellutz - ok. as you see i'm a bit confused ;)20:39
zyngawowJordan_U: Oh, I also get a message seying compiz has crashed every while20:39
Jordan_UNoskcaj: None really. Depending on the drive it might help to run fstrim every once in a while.20:40
zyngawowAnd on additional drivers, the ATI driver is there20:40
zyngawowSo.. why is Ubuntu using CPU for rendering?20:41
jhutchins_wkNoskcaj: You might want to do logging and temp files on the HD to reduce traffic on the ssd.20:41
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Noskcajjhutchins_wk, ok, i was about to ask about that20:41
adamkzyngawow: Being listed there isn't enough.  Are the additional drivers 'activated'?20:41
zyngawowadamk, how would I know? I remember it had a green icon near it20:42
zyngawowI was using the x.org ones20:42
blacklinellutz, you have any idea how to proceed? maybe i should start from scratch. i'm trying to mount a shared folder from my popcorn hour (media center) which have support for both SAMBA and NFS. I've already tried SAMBA with help from jhutchins_wk but we didn20:42
blacklinedidnt solve it that way.-20:42
adamkzyngawow: The open source drivers have limited acceleration for HD7xxx GPUs.  The proprietary drivers, available via the additional driver dialog, have 2D and 3D acceleration.20:42
JoAnneThraxIs there a different channel to ask specifically about using multiple monitors in ubuntu?  I'm trying to get my laptop to use one external monitor via HDMI and another via sVGA, but when I have the HDMI plugged in, the sVGA monitor doesn't work.  In amdcccle it's just greyed out...20:43
zyngawowadamk, so ATI drivers arent good?20:43
llutzblackline: doest "showmount -e 1.2.3.4"  (1.2.3.4 = ip of your mediacenter) show any shares?20:44
jhutchins_wkzyngawow: Some are, some aren't.20:44
jhutchins_wkzyngawow: Just like in Windows.20:44
adamkzyngawow: Again, the open source drivers have limited acceleration.  The proprietary drivers should work well.20:44
zyngawowI know they arent good on windows, but at least they accelerate20:45
zyngawowI'll try with the propietary20:45
phillustine?20:45
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blacklinellutz it shows: "/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0"20:45
jrtappersMartijn-NL, try that link20:46
jrtappershttp://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21876/rescue-old-damaged-cds-with-an-ubuntu-live-cd/20:46
jrtapperszyngawow, what failed?20:46
jrtapperszyngawow, what problems are you having?20:46
jrtappersSo what is not working?20:46
jrtappersName the problems, so we can help20:46
FloodBot1jrtappers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:46
llutzblackline: does this work? "sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK /mnt"20:46
zyngawowI already did lol20:46
jrtapperszyngawow, try additional drivers20:46
jrtapperszyngawow,  if you search on the dash for "Additional Drivers" it should appear20:46
jrtappersIf you install it you usually get better performance20:46
jhutchins_wkllutz: Why the wierd mountpoint?20:47
jrtappersI just got a flood warning for no reason20:47
llutzjhutchins_wk: whats wierd with /mnt?20:48
blacklinellutz, hmm. i sent that text line and it just shows a blinking box instead of the place i usually write stuff in terminal :p20:48
jhutchins_wkllutz: Oh, that's the share.20:48
bazhangjrtappers, not no reason20:48
jhutchins_wkllutz: n'mind, finding the backscroll.20:48
llutzjhutchins_wk: np20:48
jhutchins_wkblackline: This is really a PB support issue, we're pretty much guessing what the problem is.  Do they have phone support?  Or on-line chat?20:49
jrtapperszyngawow, whats not working now?20:49
blacklinejhutchins_wk, PB? Do you mean Popcorn Hour?20:49
zyngawowjrtappers, idk, I'm on windows now20:50
superdmpdoes this output from aptitude update look like it's indicating a problem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492896/"20:50
jrtapperszyngawow, ok20:50
ares_Hello, how to change monitor heartz on ubuntu 12.04LTS20:52
llutzblackline: after issuing the command, did you get back the prompt?20:52
WeThePeoplewould( ubuntu, windows, ubuntu ) be ok for a hdd?20:52
magik_WeThePeople, I think you can only have 4 main partitions but I'm a newb lol20:53
WeThePeoplemagik_, thats true primary parts.20:53
blacklinellutz now it timed out, took a long while20:53
llutzblackline: you have to replace 1.2.3.4 by the mediacenter-IP20:53
jhutchins_wkblackline: Yeah, Popcorn Hour, PH.20:54
ares_ubuntu 12 kills me20:54
jrtappersares_, why?20:54
jhutchins_wkllutz: I wouldn't expect NFS to use the real path as a sharename.20:55
jrtappersif its the window manager then install another window manager20:55
ares_<jrtappers> I can't change heartz on it like on 11 or 1020:55
ares_It was able to change it at display options20:55
blacklinejhutchins_wk, i suppose they have some kind of support. but i'm kind of unsure about how i should explain the issue since I can reach the samba share from within my desktop enviroment.20:55
llutzjhutchins_wk: nfs has no "sharenames" like cifs, the share is listed by "showmount"20:56
blacklinellutz, of course, i wrote the the media center ip the first try ;)20:56
phillustineq20:56
phillustinequit20:56
blacklinehaha20:56
blacklineno i didnt20:56
blacklinesorry for that guys20:56
llutzblackline: just to make sure...20:56
blacklinegood for me20:56
blacklinellutz, access denies by server by mounting...20:57
blacklinellutz: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177"20:58
ares_if you want to change refresh rate use sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager20:58
ddilingerif you wanted to file a bug that some package does not include a tool from the source ditsribution (say, there is an optional tool in the package called debugclient), is ubuntu-bug appropriate?20:58
ares_Linux For the win!20:59
llutzblackline: really ".... while mounting 192.168.1.177"?21:00
llutzblackline: there should be 192.168.1.177:/opt/blabla  <- the exported sharename21:01
mcrawforso, how do I figure out whether compiz is using my graphics card? how do I even choose a graphics card. my xorg.conf is hilariously tiny compared to how i used to remember them21:03
mcrawforis there some nice tool i need to know about in 12.10?21:03
blacklinellutz, sorry. this is the full lenght: "marcus@Marcus:/mnt$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.177:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK /mnt/popcorn21:03
blacklinemount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK"21:03
llutzblackline: do you have shell access to 192.168.1.177?21:04
CloudGuyhi21:04
CloudGuywhat is the openvz package in ubuntu 12.04 ?21:04
CloudGuythe openvz kernel i mean21:04
magik_If it weren't for the need to use Windows once in awhile for games and certain applications,  I would discard it all together.  Right now I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal and it's working really good I'm quite impressed.21:06
jhutchins_wkmcrawfor: If compiz is displaying something it's using your graphics card.  Do you have more than one that you want to choose from?  Most systems run with no xorg.conf at all these days, it autodetects.21:06
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lastninjaWitam21:07
jhutchins_wkmagik_: I didn't use Windows at all from 2004 until late 2011 when I went to work for some companies that supply or require Windows machines.21:07
blacklinellutz shell access?21:07
llutzblackline: ssh, telnet21:07
blacklinellutz,  yes ive dont that before. from another computer. i'll give it a try now.21:07
NuSueyah well.. what would be the best way to reinstall grub again? (installed xp and lost it of course)21:07
lastninjajest tu jakiś polak??21:08
llutz!pl | lastninja21:08
ubottulastninja: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:08
guntbertNuSuey: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub21:10
blacklinellutz as long as i'm doing it right it is connection refusal21:14
blacklinellutz i used putty and tried to connect to 192.168.1.17721:15
MangoBoyHello. Can one use a joystick as a mouse in linux? and is there some special package to install to make it posible? if some one know !21:15
llutzblackline: it might just not have sshd running. is it a pc running a mediacenter-software or a "blackbox mediacenter" with a limited OS?21:15
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blacklinellutz one of these: http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalog&mainItemId=1221:16
blacklineall services are running according to the media center.21:16
blacklinebut i could restart them. i don't think that there is any issues on that side since i have connected through ssh with another pc (windows) before. I dont know if i mentioned but I reach the samba file share in nautilus as well. Just can't mount it (nor nfs)21:17
llutzwhow, just 507 minutes to build OpenElec from git ...21:19
llutzwhoops wrong channel, sorry21:19
mcrawforjhutchins_wk: it is continuously burning 30% of cpu when no windows are even displayed21:19
mcrawforand dragging a window side to side is slideshow-like21:20
mcrawforso i suspect is not using hardware rendering properlyu21:20
mcrawforperhaps i meant to say, which driver it is using, and how to select other drivers21:20
blacklinellutz, i have to "throw in the towel" for today. i'll most definitely be back another day. thanks both to you and jhutchins_wk for your patience and helpfulness. People like you really make it more easy to trying to move over to Linux!21:24
blacklinefor today. bye!21:24
llutzblackline: last attempts "sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4:/SATA_DISK /mnt"21:25
nearstsup21:26
mcrawforaha21:27
blacklinellutz, mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177:/SATA_DISK21:27
mcrawfor[  4592.758] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)21:27
llutzblackline: odd, nvm, goodnight for now :)21:27
blacklinellutz, but it is correct that i have a sata disk internal in the popcorn hour, which i'm trying to reach.21:27
blacklineyou to!21:27
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nearstwhat is popcorn?21:28
mcrawforseeds of the corn plant, heated until they burst. it's delicious!21:28
mcrawfor:)21:28
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nearstespecially while at cinema21:29
pozoHello all, trying to install desktop 12.10, 64 bit and it hangs on Copying installation logs. Is setup complete at that point and can I safely use the system?21:29
nearstworth to try21:30
pozoGoogle isn't my friend there, only found that it's a known bug21:30
nickalexlist21:30
d_r89http://antoniodelmaestro.blogspot.it/21:31
Miebster1how do I get a more recent version of evolution? the package manager downloads an old one21:32
pozoGhehe plugging out the usb drive sort of crashed the system... Looks like a good start :p21:33
chazwordI have a 15 drive raid6.  For various reasons, 3 of these drives are marked as 'spare.'  However, I know them to be good drives that should be set active.  I'm having a difficult time figuring out how to make mdadm realize these drives are active and not spare.  Any thoughts?21:33
pozoAh crap, it's booting windows... No grub yet it seems21:34
genii-around!info evolution quantal21:34
ubottuevolution (source: evolution): groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 60 kB, installed size 1120 kB21:34
nickalexlis21:34
Miebster1I'm using 10.04 and the package manager is trying to install 2.28.3 of evolution21:35
F3Speech2 15k 37gb raptor hdds arrived today to hold my new home server setup, its going to run mysql,sabnzb,indexer,etc. My question is should I raid 0 or 1 these drives or should i offline one as a backup for primary fail? Is the hdd likely to be the bottleneck on a pure processing machine for a 50mb line? Thanks21:36
Miebster1F3Speech: Mighty curious, why not ssds?21:36
F3Speechpoverty :)21:37
Toddlol21:37
Miebster1F3Speech: How much do 2 raptors cost?21:37
pozoF3 you mean 50MBit/s right?21:37
F3Speechyes21:37
pozoShould be no issue with speed there21:37
genii-around!info evolution lucid-backports21:37
F3Speechgot them for Ā£12.50 each from reseller21:37
ubottuPackage evolution does not exist in lucid-backports21:37
genii-aroundHm21:37
pozoUse raid 0 if you don't need the space21:38
F3Speechpozo: you think 1 drive should be able to keepup fine without raid?21:38
NuSueyanybody know why is my PC still booting only XP (check http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493164/)21:38
jackargok I need help consisting of setting up ubuntu on a mac. it's an old 2006 mac mini and I'm installing ubuntu 12.04. do I have to dual boot (which requires creating a partition) or can i just totally erase the mac os x?21:38
Miebster1genii-around: do I have to download the source?21:39
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genii-aroundMiebster1: I would probably look for a PPA with a more recent version first21:39
xibalbaanyone here pretty familiar with 'less' or 'more' or any other paging app?21:39
F3Speechpozo: best case i get 6Mbs minmus processing overhead there cant me more than 4Mbs going to the disk21:39
pozoF3Speech: sure no problem at all, processor speed and download speed will be the bottleneck21:40
llutz!anyone | xibalba21:40
ubottuxibalba: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:40
xibalbai know less can highlight a search, but i'm wondering if there is a way to make a 2nd highlighted string. So search for 'A' first, great found it, now i want to look for 'A' and 'B'21:40
pozoOn a 7.2k disk I get 80 MB (real bytes, not bits) per second :)21:40
F3Speechpozo: ok on a related note, whould i see any general overall performance increase raid(1)ing the disks? I think I'll raid(0) for backup.21:41
TvL2386F3Speech, you're disks will do at least 50MB/s. I got 2 raptors 37GB but only 10k rpm in raid0... the setup goes over 100MB/s21:41
nearst!mdadm21:41
NuSueystill can't get my GRUB :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493208/21:41
TvL2386F3Speech, it's never near any limitation for your 50mbit line21:41
Miebster1genii-around: I'm not really sure how to do that other than type things into google until it looks good21:41
NuSueyallways booting into XP21:41
F3SpeechTvL2386: what about 120Mbs? expecting line upgrade this year21:42
guntbertF3Speech: are you joking? raid 0?21:42
nickalexsalve21:42
medoi am love Ubuntu so much ,but i have a problem with it , it make me crazy!21:42
TvL2386F3Speech, pozo: RAID1 is mirroring... thus backup.... You will get an array of 37GB which is comprised of 2 disks.21:42
pozoOh shit meant to say 1 of course f321:42
nickalexnon sono pratico21:42
pozoUse mirroring for redundancy21:43
nickalexscusate21:43
guntbert!it | nickalex21:43
ubottunickalex: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi Ā« /join #ubuntu-it Ā» senza virgolette)21:43
nearstNuSuey, update-grub ?21:43
guntbert!language > pozo21:43
ubottupozo, please see my private message21:43
medowhen i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!21:43
TvL2386F3Speech, 50MB/s == 50*8 MBIT/s. So 120MBIT/s == 15MB/s... Your disks will do at least 50MB/s.... so never near that as well21:43
medowhat can i do please?21:44
F3SpeechTvL2386: yeah if i wont see any performance ill go for raid121:44
Miebster1Can someone help me find a ppa or help me compile the latest version of evolution for 10.04?21:44
CloudGuyanyone knows how to do openvz on ubuntu ?21:44
TvL2386F3Speech, pozo check this for raid levels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Standard_levels21:44
F3SpeechTvL2386: yeah i know in thory they arnt even close just wanted to ask :) thanks21:44
pozoYeah I know, sorry, just realized it just before you send it :)21:45
medoany one help me pleas21:45
NuSueynearst: crap. now I cant even boot anywhere. .. getting a Missing operating system .. error now21:45
TvL2386F3Speech, you are welcome. When you get a 500mbit line, I would start to worry about disk performance21:45
nearst!openvz | CloudGuy21:45
CloudGuyaah21:45
CloudGuyok21:45
pozoMeant mirroring anyhow21:45
nearstNuSuey, try to install grub-pc then update-grub21:46
F3SpeechTvL2386: would u advise any differnt use for the second disk other than raid 1 like swap or mouting particular directoryes?21:46
nearstext4 + ntfs not big fan of grub221:46
pozoPersonally I use two disks as jbod, and mirror important files to both with a backup program21:46
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F3SpeechTvL2386: i cant imigine ill use any swap tbh, but i know know which parts of the fs are busy21:46
TvL2386F3Speech, single disk performance that is... I'd go for a RAID5 setup of 3 disks (got myself 6*1.5TB in RAID5)... Online extendable with mdadm if you get a new disk and online filesystem resizable with resize2fs (EXT2,3,4)21:47
xibalbapozo, thats for a home desktop though right? not production21:47
pozoBut that's for long term storage, not something you need fast disks for21:47
xibalbaTvL2386, never do a raid 5 on 3 disks if you want any sort of usable performance21:47
NuSueynearst: package called grub-pc? cant find that.21:47
TvL2386xibalba, we're talking about a home server...21:47
NuSueylatest grub-repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493237/21:47
F3Speechxibalba: yeah its a home server21:47
TvL2386xibalba, simple storage...21:47
xibalbahave you guys see FreeNAS ?21:47
NuSueynearst: ah its installed21:47
xibalbaJust use FreeNAS and call it a day21:48
jhutchins_wkUnless you need more capacity than is available on a single drive RAID just adds new points of failure.21:48
xibalbaZFS/pools for the win21:48
TvL2386xibalba, nah... that's no fun! :-)21:48
xibalbayes it is21:48
NuSueynearst: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.21:49
F3Speechxibalba: freenas run its own code or ontop of ubuntu server?21:49
xibalbaontop of a FreeBSD server21:49
jak2000hi all21:49
jak2000can i install a mydel.deb on my ubuntu server?21:49
nearstNuSuey, aw, what is that. try rerun sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --fix-missing21:49
jak2000mysql.deb21:49
F3Speechxibalba: thats out for me then, i really want to stay with ubuntu for the support and other services im running21:50
medowhen i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!21:50
TvL2386xibalba, zfs is very cool! It's on my todo list as the next filesystem for my linux server... Still need to figure out how to migrate 6*1.5TB to zfs without having to buy another 6*1.5TB -_-21:50
xibalbaF3Speech, really? That's quite silly and you're limiting your scope of understanding21:50
TvL2386xibalba, I mean that I want to migrate to freebsd in order to get the fs21:50
djshotglassi want to install wine but its 80mb and i cant use that kind of bandwidth untill 2am but dont want to stay up that late21:50
djshotglassis there a way to apt-get install it that will auto answer yes21:51
NuSueynearst: wtf. what are you talking about? Im just using the usb .. can't boot anywhere. what would updating the system on the usb freaking help me?21:51
xibalbaTvL2386, yeah that's a tall order21:51
F3Speechxibalba: when you know little i dont think its silly to limit your scope :)21:51
medoheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp21:51
TvL2386djshotglass, append -y21:51
xibalbaF3Speech, eh i hear you. write it down at least and take a look at it and FreeBSD later when you're more up to speed21:51
IncogTopanyone ever use Sil3132 based esata cards before?21:51
Jordan_UNuSuey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot21:51
F3Speechxibalba: willdo thanks for the suggestion21:51
jackargquestion: if installing ubuntu on mac, should I erase os x or dual boot with it?21:51
nearstNuSuey, owh. mount -o bind /dev, sys, proc. then chroot21:51
xibalbaF3Speech, two projects you'll be intersted in www.freenas.org, www.pfsense.org (both freebsd based)21:51
medohelp    help help help help anyyyyyyyyyyyyy heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:52
IncogTopIf i boot the system up with a drive connected over esata itll freeze the system21:52
F3Speechso the final group view is i should just mount 1 drive and use the other for /home or something21:53
xibalbamedo, what's your queef?21:53
IncogTopremove boots up....plug the drive back in or power it back on and it will work just fine until the drive "sleeps"21:53
medowhen i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!21:53
TvL2386F3Speech, you have 2*37GB right... Why should /home be on a different disk?21:53
nickalexrajaniemi.freenode.net21:54
Jordan_Umedo: Theatrics won't get you more support, it will however annoy the people you're trying to get free support from, which is less than productive.21:54
xibalbaJordan_U, why not help instead of typing your rant?21:54
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F3SpeechTvL2386: someone said with on 2 disks raid is just extra hassle when i dont need the performance21:54
jhutchins_wkIncogTop: That suggests a bad connection.  Either something's wrong with the cable/connector or something's wrong with the drive.21:54
IncogTopjhutchins_wk, neither21:55
Jordan_Uxibalba: Because I don't know how to help with xibalba's isaue, if I did I would have responded to their original question.21:55
TvL2386F3Speech, RAID is always a hassle... :) It's indeed easier to have 1 disk as your root filesystem and the other mounted in /home. But that does not divide the space21:55
F3SpeechTvL2386: i have to agree why have a car that can go 300mph if you can only drive at 100mph :)21:55
tromasHI ve21:55
medowhat can i do i asked this qu more and more21:55
tromasHi everybody,21:55
xibalbamedo,21:55
xibalbarepeat it21:55
IncogTopTvL2386, mdadm seems nice enough21:55
tromasI have a problem with nvidia optimus. I want to disable it21:55
jhutchins_wkF3Speech: You won't get performance increases without hardware raid.21:55
xibalbai'll give you info if i can medo21:55
IncogTopatleast for raid121:55
tromashow can I do it?21:55
IncogTopoh for performance increase?21:56
medowhen i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!21:56
IncogTopyea21:56
xibalbajhutchins_wk, not even read performance?21:56
IncogTopneed hardware raid then21:56
F3Speechjhutchins_wk: none? wasnt aware of that21:56
jhutchins_wkxibalba: Not measurable.21:56
xibalbamedo, first make sue you're fully up2date w/apt-get update/upgrade21:56
IncogTopyou can get some performance with raid021:56
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IncogTopbut i wouldnt suggest that21:56
TvL2386F3Speech, You can also take a look at LVM. Maybe this will give you the flexibility you would like21:56
medoi did it21:56
xibalbaLVM is garbage, dont use it21:56
IncogTopraid5 is good but you need atleast 3 drives for that and at that point a real hardware raid card ( note hardware raid...not HBA or some silly intergrated mess )21:56
F3Speechyeah21:56
medoit's up to dat21:57
xibalbaIncogTop, dont suggest RAID5 w/3 drives man21:57
xibalbathat's Disk I/O 10121:57
IncogTopxibalba, i see no problems with raid5 with 3 disks21:57
IncogTopits the bare minimum21:57
IncogTopbut it works fine21:57
xibalbaits awful, especially on 1.5 TB drives...if you had to rebuild that yo'll probably end up with 2 drive failures21:57
xibalba'fine' it does not work like21:57
IncogTopxibalba, if this was mission critcal yes id agree21:58
Jordan_UIncogTop: You can certainly get performance benefits from software RAID, as long as the bottleneck is IO rather than CPU.21:58
Guest9177Dell OptiPlex 7010 MT standard pieces and ubuntu 12.04 install. LAN is not working stable. What can we do?21:58
IncogTopthen id say raid6 with a bunch of drives21:58
TvL2386IncogTop, xibalba my homeserver started with raid5 3 disks (1.5TB Samsung ecogreen 5200RPM)... Did about 200MB/s... It evolved into 6*1.5 TB... Slowly extending and resizing... It's very good!21:58
IncogTopbut this isnt mission critical21:58
IncogTopand raid isnt backup21:58
IncogTopjust redundancy for that little extra protection21:58
IncogTopyou should always have a backup of a backup21:59
jackargcan someone answer me?21:59
xibalbaIncogTop, ha dont i know it. we have our backup backing up to backup #221:59
xibalbausing FreeNAS though21:59
jhutchins_wkRAID really just provides more modes and points of failure.  Unless you need a bigger partition than the largest physical drive it's not worth it.21:59
bs123does FreeNas use samba?21:59
xibalbabs123, yes21:59
bs123thought so21:59
jhutchins_wkjackarg: Sorry, don't see a question.21:59
xibalbaand apple , NFS, rsync21:59
IncogTopas for my issue it seems to be an issue where it just times out22:00
bs123had it setup a few years ago22:00
IncogTopon "softreset"22:00
F3Speechjhut you think LVM is the best opting then just to make the space accessible or would you mount them seprate with /home etc22:00
xibalbaalright i need to go before i frusterate myself22:00
xibalbaF3Speech, lvm is garbage stay away22:00
nearstlol22:00
Guest9177does anyone know why a LAN connection is not stable on an Optiplex built by Dell22:00
jhutchins_wk!patience > mego22:00
IncogTopdell22:00
F3Speechlol come on guys, help a poor guy out stop disagreeing lol22:01
TvL2386you all say the correct things... But if someone just wants a simple fileserver at home where performance is not really a big issue and you just want a mountpoint that's able to provide lots of terabytes that can easily be extended.... Go for raid5 mdadm and choose a fs that is online extendible22:01
IncogToptheres your issue22:01
IncogTopmdadm is nice22:01
Guest9177is there a standard fix or system check I can do?22:01
Jordan_Ujackarg: It's probably best to keep OSX to be able to do firmware updates.22:01
NuSueynearst: so.. im booted to the usb.. so what should I do? :(22:01
IncogTopgrr22:02
Jordan_UGuest9177: Ethernet?22:02
GrizlyGuest9177: ethtool?22:02
Guest9177Ethernet yes22:02
medoi am sorry every one for annoying ,and thank you sallam !22:02
jackargJordan_U: now something else I wanna know. what are firmware updates?22:02
Guest9177what does ethtool exactly do?22:02
Jordan_UGuest9177: What type of stability problems specifically?22:03
Guest9177There is a connection failure randomly22:03
TvL2386and yeah yeah.... redundancy or backups withing the same system (or building) is not a real backup. When you get robbed or your server closet burns out (been there!), it's gone22:03
Guest9177other PCs can get access and with same cable a laptop. too22:03
Jordan_Ujackarg: Firmware is code stored in your hardware.22:04
Guest9177Only Optiplex has problems22:04
jhutchins_wkjackarg: If you get rid of OSX you won't be able to do firmware updates, that's about the only thing you loose.22:04
* ElysiumNet sighs at software raid22:04
ElysiumNetwhy the hell does it keep trying to read from the obviously broken disk22:04
ElysiumNetinstead of the disk that still works22:04
jackargjhutchins_wk: I'm still unsure of the advantage firmware updates give you22:04
TvL2386ElysiumNet, remove the broken disk and reboot? It would see a degraded array but won't have issues???? (taking a guess here, please proceed with caution!)22:05
jhutchins_wkNice!  A demonstration of exactly what I was saying: RAID is more trouble than it's worth!22:05
ElysiumNetTvL2386: you would think a software raid wouldn't be *that* stupid22:05
nearstagree22:05
ElysiumNet"Oh hey, this disk is broken! LET'S BREAK IT SOME MORE!"22:05
IncogTop:|22:06
ElysiumNetwhile making the box nearly unusable by throwing iowait pikes22:06
ElysiumNet*spikes22:06
bingoringoif I want to set the default program for opening video files, do I need to set that for each filetype individually?22:06
nearstfsck?22:06
TvL2386ElysiumNet, well, since it's software, I would guess it may have issues with hardware failures. The disk is not shielded from the OS as when it would be in a hardware raid22:06
ElysiumNetI thought it should do, "Hey, this sector is unreadable. Better use the other harddrive instead"22:06
jhutchins_wkLet's see, in November we lost both the drive that had the array configuration on it and the backup battery on the controller.  In December we lost a drive and the array went RO.  Reseated the drive and it came right back, then failed again the next day.22:07
ElysiumNetTvL2386: disk 2 so far hasn't even been touched for a single read. it's only been written to22:07
TvL2386ElysiumNet, raid doesn't give you that kind of integrity... It just provides you with the data in case of a complete disk failure22:08
ares_Is possible to always keep on desktop selected display setting (resulution and refresh rate) Now after reloging or restart my display settings randomizes22:08
TvL2386ElysiumNet, if one disks fails slowly... that will cause lots of issues22:08
jackargJordan_U: what advantage do firmware updates give you?22:08
ElysiumNetTvL2386: ...it would be a rather basic thing to implement for a software raid?22:08
ElysiumNet"Hey, this sector is hard to read and screws up the box. let's not"22:08
TvL2386ElysiumNet, but unfortunately it seems it doesn't work that way :-)22:09
ElysiumNetshouldn't I be able to just remove it with mdadm while the machine keeps running?22:09
Guest9177how can I find out whether the connection fails due to hardware or software?22:09
ElysiumNetTvL2386: I so wish it did22:09
jhutchins_wkGuest9177: Try a different port on the switch.  What chipset is the system using?22:10
TvL2386ElysiumNet, I'm hesitant to advise you anything, because I don't wanna be held accountable for screwing up your data, but I would turn it off, disconnect the broken disk. That way it can't cause issues for sure22:10
jhutchins_wkwpa22:11
jak2000http://pastebin.com/1ctpN7qj   i unpack:  sudo dpkg -i mysql-5.5.29-debian6.0-x86_64.deb    now? need run somwthing else?22:11
TvL2386ElysiumNet, if you want self healing, use a FS like zfs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Data_Integrity22:12
TvL2386ElysiumNet, good luck! I have to leave now22:12
GrizlyGuest9177: ethtool lets you change the ethernet settings, dump the ethernet configs etc, from the device itself, see where and why, don't forget to grep dmesg22:12
TimvdeDid Avant Window Navigator get removed from the default repositories?22:13
jhutchins_wkjak2000: What are you trying to do?22:13
Guest9177Grizly: I will try this. Thanks.22:14
pozoUseless stuff, I used a different usb stick and still hanging on 'copying installation logs'... I did see' configuring GRUB' pop up so maybe it will work22:15
nocturiusHi, I'm trying to set up a LUKS root partition for multi-boot. But the installer (12.10) won't let me select the physical LUKS partition for the boot loader. Will it boot if I select /dev/mapper/..._crypt ? (I can't install it to the MBR, btw.)22:15
jak2000jhutchins_wk i download: mysql-5.5.29-debian6.0-x86_64.deb  from mysql.com i want install mysqlerver ..22:15
zibordshi22:16
dkesseljak2000, you just did22:16
jak2000jhutchins i know that i can install: apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 butnotis the actual(lastest) version of mysql...22:16
nocturiusAlso, what's the difference between installing the boot loader to "sda2_crypt" and "sda2_crypt Linux device-mapper (crypt)"?22:17
jhutchins_wkjak2000: Why not just aptitude install mysql-server?22:17
jak2000dkessel: sudo dpkg -i ?22:17
nearstyup.22:17
jak2000jhutchins_wk but install the lastes mysql version?22:17
dkesseljak2000, sudo dpkg -i installed it22:17
rscenthi, can anyone help me?22:18
jhutchins_wkjak2000: I believe you need the -server package, and if you use the one provided by ubuntu you know it's properly integrated with the system.22:18
jhutchins_wkjak2000: Latest version means latest bugs.22:18
jak2000mmmm jhutchins_wk ok understand then..22:18
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Jordan_Unocturius: You don't want grub's boot sector in either of those places. Grub's boot sector should go in the MBR of a real (or at least firmware-visible) device.22:20
F3SpeechWhats the easiet way to clone a disk to another disk from the cli including grub etc? so it will boot if you remove the first?22:22
troophello, can we do the same font render of windows in ubuntu ? beause i feel headache after 1 hour22:22
magik_troop why would you want them nasty windows fonts in Ubuntu? lmao22:23
troopbecause linux font render engine hurts my eyes22:24
ares_Where I could remove unity bar from starting list? ubuntu 12. I'm really confused in ubuntu1222:24
magik_ares_, I don't think you can do that but you can make it hide.22:24
nearsttry backup as iso?22:24
ares_on 11 ubuntu version there was in setting Starting programs or smth like that. Where is it now?22:25
magik_ares_, I think it's because they switched to tthe Unity instead of GNOME.22:26
danny_how do i add folders to the left side of the file browser along with the home documents and that stuff22:26
ares_I will remove unity bar and replace it with gnome bar22:26
magik_ares_, that should solve your problem.22:26
danny_ares_: just search startup in unity and it will pop up22:27
magik_I personaly like the Unity shell22:27
jak2000jhutchins_wk wich is the difference into aptitude and apt-get ?22:28
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kristenbbI tried to delete a directory but I get "directory is not empty". How can I delete it ?22:29
nearstrm -rf22:29
F3Speechrm -r <directory>22:29
magik_kristenbb, rm -r path22:29
Jordan_Ukristenbb: *carefully* use "rm -r /path/to/directory/".22:29
kristenbbI still get the same error22:29
Jordan_Ukristenbb: What is the exact command you're running?22:29
kristenbbwell that one22:30
kristenbbrm -rf path/to/directory22:30
magik_You may need to sudo rm -r /path/to/directory22:30
kristenbbtried with sudo too22:30
F3Speechwhats the directory22:30
kristenbbits name, you mean?22:30
F3Speechyeah22:30
kristenbbworkspace22:31
F3Speechjust workspace22:31
jackargwhat are mac os x firmware updates and do i need them  or can i erase osx and install ubuntu please anyone?22:31
jackargplease22:31
kristenbbI cd into the parent of workspace, and typed rm -rf workspace22:31
kristenbbyeah just 'workspace'22:31
magik_that's the problem.22:31
magik_you need to be out of workspace22:31
nearstdel workspace ?22:31
magik_so type cd22:32
magik_then type sudo rm -r /workspace/22:32
kristenbbmagik_ I cded into the *parent of* workspace22:32
F3Speechparent of workspace is out of it :) wouldnt that delete /workspace from the root22:32
magik_is the directory empty or full?22:33
kristenbbempty22:33
magik_then just rmdir /workspace22:33
kristenbbsame error22:33
F3Speechparent of workspace is out of it :) wouldnt that delete /workspace from the rootjust workspace22:33
F3Speechwoops22:34
magik_ok, reboot into a shell instead of GUI and try it that way22:34
F3Speechits just workspace not /workspace22:34
kristenbbF3Speech: I didn't try that command, it was wrong.22:34
kristenbbF3Speech: but yeah I tried both full and relative path.22:35
magik_kristenbb, try Alt+F1 log into a tty and try it that way22:35
AndreUbubtuHi people, my laptop webcam seems to work randomly (rarely) - mostly it doesnt. When I try to load up guvcview i get an error. A strange thing is that the webcam is shifting from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1....When I try to start guvcview on the new device path, it shifts back to the old path /dev/video0...and keeps doing this all the time. The webcam (HP TrueVision HD) seems to be detected, but every cam program gives the same error [libv4l2:22:35
AndreUbubtuerror turning on stream: No such device] - I really need to get this sorted :(22:35
F3Speechso int eh parent of of workspace you typed "sudo rmdir workspace" and it failed?22:35
kristenbbmagik_: there's no need to reboot, it's not in the system disk. it's a external usb disk.22:35
F3Speechyou have the case right22:35
F3Speechah could be permissions on the mount22:36
kristenbbF3Speech: yes that's right.22:36
kristenbbI mean22:36
magik_could be what F3Speech  said or you could need to format it.22:36
kristenbbF3Speech: yes that's right, I tried int eh parent of of workspace you typed "sudo rmdir workspace" and it failed?22:36
nearst...22:36
F3Speechdo you give a uid when mounting the drive?22:37
imbezolso i was doing a release upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and ran into a problem half way through... i hit z to enter a shell and compare two files. i hit ctrl-c to abort something i was doing in the shell and it aborted the upgrade process22:37
kristenbbF3Speech: I didn't mount it by hand22:37
nashantAlright guys. I'm having hard disk issues. Just run a smartctl long test, and it reported no errors. But the error log is showing errors, and when I try and use it I occassionally get errors22:37
nearstimbezol, try apt-get --fix-missing22:37
magik_kristenbb, It could be what F3Speech said and be permissions on the mount or you may just have to reformat because from the parent directory typing sudo rmdir workspace should work.22:37
kristenbbF3Speech: but I can delete other files in the disk22:37
imbezoli ended up with the screen session getting killed off and a dpkg process was running in the background.. had to kill it to remove the lock.22:37
Jordan_Unashant: What log and what errors specifically?22:38
kristenbbmagik_: I know it should work, that's why I found it weird and came here for help.22:38
Gyro54How do I change the Enter Key function? I need to change it from CR to CR/LF22:38
Jordan_Uimbezol: Do *not* kill the dpkg process, at least not yet. It's likely completing important steps.22:38
magik_kristenbb, try unmount and remount if that don't work backup your data and reformat the drive.22:38
imbezolJordan_U: i had to as it had a bash -i hanging off it and i had no way to get to it22:38
F3Speechkristenbb: the files you can delete could have been added after the mount?22:39
imbezolJordan_U: ie, it was waiting for me to finish my shell22:39
Manzo!lista22:39
ubottuManzo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type Ā« /msg ubottu !bot Ā». If you're looking for a channel, see Ā« /msg ubottu !alis Ā».22:39
kristenbbF3Speech: can you rephrase please ?I'm not sure I understand your question.22:39
Jordan_Uimbezol: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to finish configuring any packages.22:39
nashantJordan_U: smartctl -l error, and uncorrectable data errors. Then yesterday, before I zero filled it, it failed a conveyance test after 10%22:39
F3Speechkristenbb: i mean do you use the usb in windows etc and its those you cant delete but files u create in ubuntu u can delete?22:40
nearstouch.22:40
nashantJordan_U: My problem is, I want to have it in a 9TB LVM, but when I do my system beeps at me sporadically. If almost 12k lifetime hours a lot?22:41
imbezolJordan_U: heh.. well.. i dunno what i'd try fixing. the release version is set to 12.04.1 now.22:41
kslatertime to see if suspend / resume works. And to see if hot-docking still works too.22:42
AndreUbubtuplease help :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493527/22:42
* kslater goes off for an adventure22:42
imbezolJordan_U: when i try aptitude full-upgrade it lists a tonne including a whole X environment. this is a server that's never had X22:42
kristenbbF3Speech: do you mean to ask whether this particular file was added in ubuntu or in a Windows platform ? I don't recall.22:42
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Muphridkristenbb: can you create files on this usb drive?22:42
kristenbbMuphrid: yes22:43
F3Speechkristenbb: yes sorry my typing it a bit lax, i would trest that first then i would say its pretty much you just need to add a user to your fstab and should sort it...?22:44
F3Speechkristenbb: to the line relating to your usb mount ofc :)22:44
kristenbbF3Speech: magik_:    in any case, I tried to unmount and remount the drive, and now I still experience the same issue, however I now also sometimes get a different error message : "unable to trash file: invalid argument".22:44
celeroninuseI gave 12.04LTS a shot last week and it hard locked playing music. Anyone else having problems?22:44
F3Speechkristenbb: now that i havent experience off sorry22:45
Muphridkristenbb: is that the only file giving problem?22:45
kristenbbMuphrid: yes22:45
RoublesHi I tried to make a bootable usb of 12.04 with unetbootin, but when I boot up my computer I get an error "ERROR: No configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! boot: "22:45
imbezolis there a way to resume a failed do-release-upgrade ?22:45
Roubles^ Is this a problem with mini.iso ?22:45
kristenbbMuphrid: well, that I know of. But at least some others are not having the same issue.22:45
nashantThe announcement about Ubuntu Mobile is awesome, can't wait for that!22:45
F3SpeechRoubles: if your pc quite old?22:45
Muphridkristenbb: is seems that particular file is corrupted or does not exist anymore, by that error22:45
RoublesF3Speech: It is.22:46
magik_kristenbb, better backup your data from the drive and reformat22:46
Jordan_Uimbezol: Have you done "sudo dpkg --configure -a" yet?22:46
celeroninuseI actually had to physcially switch off the system22:46
kristenbbMuphrid: could be, wouldn't it end up in lost+found though in that case ?22:46
imbezolJordan_U: that doesn't do anything22:46
RoublesF3Speech: That's why I am trying to use the mini.iso, because of PAE processor incompatibility.22:46
F3SpeechRoubles: could be your usb boot is usb-zup not usb-hdd and your pc wont boot from live image format22:46
Muphridkristenbb: not that i know of, have you tried to F5 the main dir?22:46
F3SpeechRoubles: usb-zip i ment22:47
Jordan_Uimbezol: Good, then you don't have further packages to configure. What about "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?22:47
kristenbbMuphrid: well yeah in the sense that I unmounted and remounted it.22:47
Gyro54celeroninuse: I have a 12.04 which locks up when playing from website music. Not sure why22:47
F3SpeechRoubles: i just had the exact same problem22:47
celeroninuseGyro54: Well its dissapointing for a LTS22:47
imbezolJordan_U: same as "aptitude full-upgrade". it wants to pull in a tonne of X stuff22:47
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RoublesF3Speech: In the BIOS boot options I see USB HDD listed at the top.22:47
imbezolJordan_U: lists 249 new packages to be installed22:47
Jordan_URoubles: What system did you try to make it from? That sounds like a syslinux error, maybe because you used a system with an old and incompatable version of syslinux.22:47
mikubuntu_whats the address for the photo(bin?) site?22:48
RoublesJordan_U: I made it with ubuntu 10.something or 11.something.22:48
Aperolhello folks22:48
Gyro54celeroninuse: It is 1 x desktop and I think I will just kill the whole machine and reinstall.22:48
mikubuntu_whats the address for the photo(bin?) site?22:48
Aperolno dont do that u can use the reset-function (start cmd and type "idiotami")22:49
Fenaralanhow do I remove a zombie procsess?22:49
Aperolthe adress is photoadr.ess22:49
Gyro54How do I change the Enter Key function? I need to change it from CR to CR/LF22:49
Aperoldunno eat its brain22:49
Aperolpress t and then the new key22:49
DJonesAperol: Do you have an Ubuntu support question22:49
jhutchins_wkAperol: Please stop.22:49
Aperolyes how do i turn it into mac?22:50
celeroninusegyro54: Well I'm waiting for the next LTS. A hard lockup playing music and a few tabs isn't worth switching over for.22:50
Fenaralanhow do I remove a zombie process?22:50
Aperolim waitin for the next std22:50
Muphridkristenbb: and what if you actually refresh it by f5?22:50
Aperolnot, dont22:50
kristenbb Muphrid the folder is still there22:50
Fenaralananyone can tell?22:50
Jordan_URoubles: That's probably the problem then. You should be able to dd the iso to a USB drive (be very careful with dd though).22:51
SlartGyro54: I think it might be easier to change a textfile from using CR to CR/LF than to change the actual result of pressing enter22:51
mikubuntu_Aperol, why did you lie to me.  I am here looking for help.22:51
Aperolok sry22:51
Fenaralananyone can help me?22:51
Gyro54celeroninuse: I think that unit is on 12.04.1 but I am not sure. I have 6 x others which have no problems. They don't play as much music though22:51
Aperolno22:51
jhutchins_wkFenaralan: If kill -9 doesn't do it (it probably won't) the only cure is a reboot.22:51
Fenaralanyeah tried that22:51
Fenaralanwow22:51
Fenaralani dont wanna reboot ;_;22:51
Tex_Nick!patience | Fenaralan22:51
ubottuFenaralan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:51
SlartGyro54: this might be helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/2392/re-mapping-keyboard-keys22:52
jhutchins_wkFenaralan: Kinda by definition a zombie is unkillable.22:52
Fenaralanis it bad to leave it there?22:52
Aperoloh yes, sweet jesus! this hilarious support here is so giving me a boner!22:52
Jordan_UFenaralan: Have you tried killing its parent?22:52
Aperolno22:52
Fenaralanyes22:52
Fenaralanima pastebin22:52
jhutchins_wkFenaralan: It's certainly not taking any CPU, might have some RAM but that's probably not critical.22:52
SlartFenaralan: a zombie process doesn't use any resources afaik, I don't think you can get rid of them unless you reboot the machine (except in some special cases)22:53
Gyro54Slart: Thanks22:53
mikubuntu_DJones, user Aperol may pose a danger to other users who might follow his flip comments and damage a system.22:53
Fenaralanhttp://pastebin.com/G9xFyQv922:53
DJonesmikubuntu_: They're already gone22:53
jhutchins_wkmikubuntu_: He gone.22:53
Fenaralanoh22:53
Fenaralanwell thats what i see22:53
mikubuntu_thx -- i hardly knew him22:54
SlartGyro54: if you do decide to start messing with xmodmap make sure you read about it first.. there is no easy to way to just "restore things back to normal" apart from rebooting..22:54
F3Speechserver file systems is there any particular that should be aimed for, im looking at ext3 as default but intrested on anyones views. thanks22:54
Muphridkristenbb: is it showing in "ls -lih" and what is the size?22:54
Miebster1When I run the following command "ssh root@hostnmae 'bash -s' <shellscript.sh argument" it doesn't work because there is a line in the shellscript.sh that runs another shell script (located on the remote host) that contains a command that the local host doesn't recognize.  How can I execute the script on the remote host instead?22:54
RoublesJordan_U: OK I will try that.22:55
SlartF3Speech: depends on what you're going to do with them.. some are better at big files, some are better at small files.. other have other advantages such as stability and security..22:55
beboj_need help:http://askubuntu.com/questions/235859/running-sierra-wireless-gobi-2000-under-ubuntu22:55
F3SpeechSlart: i think ill be dealing with alot and fragmented traffic then shipping the end result out to nas22:56
mikubuntu_i'm having trouble with dvd playback -- want to post a pic of my screen, but i can't remember the 'photobin'  paste up address?22:56
SlartF3Speech: I would say that for general purpose ext3/ext4 is ok.. I've used xfs on some drives in my server but I didn't see any obvious differences22:56
RoublesJordan_U: Just to be sure, it's the iso that I should dd to usb right? Not another file?22:56
DJonesmikubuntu_: Try imagebin22:56
kristenbbMuphrid: well it's a folder so it doesn't really have a size, does it? But yeah it shows in ls -lih and the size shown is 8K22:56
F3SpeechSlart: thanks22:57
VlanXanyone here with Intel 82571GB NIC?22:57
mikubuntu_DJones, thx -- i kept trying photobin couldn't remember22:57
DJones!imagebin | mikubuntu_22:57
ubottumikubuntu_: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.22:57
DJonesThat was what I was trying to remember22:57
SlartF3Speech: have a look at the wikipedia articles for ext3, ext4, xfs and perhaps zfs if that is useful on ubuntu by now.. that should give you some idea about what there is to choose from22:57
Jordan_URoubles: Correct.22:57
Gyro54Slart: The problem is due to Libreoffice with creating a CSV file to use on windows. LO only creates a CR where Windows creates a CR/LF. My file needs the LF22:57
SlartGyro54: oh.. but surely that is a preference somewhere in libreoffice.. it has to be.. or you could just change it afterwards22:58
Muphridkristenbb: 8K for an empty folder? you probably have deleted the files from there and did not empty the trash bin.22:58
SlartGyro54: I would definately not mess with xmodmap for that..22:58
kristenbbMuphrid: 8k might be the block size.22:58
Gyro54Slart: The LO people have pointed to the OS22:59
Muphridkristenbb: my empty folders are 6 bytes long, not 8k22:59
Slart!info tofrodos | Gyro5422:59
ubottuGyro54: tofrodos (source: tofrodos): Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.9.debian.1-1build1 (quantal), package size 20 kB, installed size 68 kB22:59
SlartGyro54: that one might work, make sure you read the man page first23:00
Gyro54Slart: Thanks23:00
SlartGyro54: are you using libreoffice writer or libreoffice calc to create the csv file?23:00
Gyro54Slart: LO Calc23:00
mikubuntu_http://imagebin.org/241612  can't get proper playback in any media player on my system.  i tried (re)installing libdvdread4 (and reboot), but still same prob as illustrated at imagebin link23:01
RoublesJordan_U: It worked. :)23:01
kristenbbMuphrid: 6 bytes is not possible, no file system would store only 6 bytes, besides 6 bytes is not even enough to store the folder name and its attributes (time...)23:01
RoublesJordan_U: At least the USB is booting now.23:01
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Gyro54Slart: I have used my laptop to create the same file and it appears OK using Pinguy. Not sure what the difference is.23:03
SlartGyro54: here are some suggestions from the openoffice forums.. not sure if they work http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5699123:04
Jordan_Umikubuntu_: Do you have that problem with all video files or just DVDs?23:04
nearsttry vlc or smplayer23:05
jak2000http://pastebin.com/9CqTf3Q6   <--- why acces deneied....23:05
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jak2000i am type the corret password, need specify the user on the scp command?23:06
AndreaUbuntuI don't get the logic of a cam that works once out of the blue....but does not on X amount of restarts, then works again at some random point.....23:08
SlartAndreaUbuntu: might be the order in which kernel modules load, or some kind of racing condition ie doesn't work if the system mounts that harddrive before it checks for the cam driver23:09
Gyro54Slart: That is exactly the problem. I am thinking character set and will check what the other computer is set to. Thanks again23:09
DaemonicApathyjak2000: scp <file> <user>@<IP>:<path>23:09
SlartGyro54: you're welcome, hope you get it figured out.. and shame on the libreoffice people for not having some kind of checkbox for file ending =)23:09
AndreaUbuntuSlart, I also dont get why my device keeps shifting from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 and back when trying and re-trying guvcview23:10
WeThePeoplehow do i find out where the mysql db is running23:10
nocturiusjust to be sure.... there's no way to boot a LUKS root partition without an unencrypted /boot partition - right?23:10
WeThePeopleto connect to23:10
Gyro54Slart: I am sure they will pick this up.23:10
AndreaUbuntuSlart, sometimes even goes up to /dev/video13....magically works a while, then doesnt work anymore23:11
AndreaUbuntuI really would love to avoid dualbooting/vm-ing into a Windows install just to make skype calls xD23:12
SlartAndreaUbuntu: webcams is closer to black magic than logic in my experience.. I'm just happy I don't have to use one for anything serious23:12
AndreaUbuntuSlart, ye....always had trouble setting them up....but usually it was just a skype problem needing a Preload or something.....but now its all over the system23:13
jrtappers_AndreaUbuntu, You have installed skype already on ubuntu?23:13
AndreaUbuntujrtappers, yes it is installed23:13
jrtappers_ok23:13
AndreaUbuntuthe system also sees my HP TrueVision HD cam....23:14
Jordan_Unocturius: It's possible to have /boot/ within LUKS, but it doesn't make much sense to do so.23:15
AndreaUbuntubut i get black screen on skype, as well as cheese etc. SOMETIMES the cam works after some restart.....and the device shifts from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 and back and forth everytime a cam program is used......still....i get the same errors all over....23:15
AndreaUbuntulibv4l2: error turning on stream: No such device23:15
AndreaUbuntuit seems the device is found, but just cant be started up....then restart the system and 1/100 times it works :S23:16
AndreaUbuntuit's not even fair magic :)23:16
AndreaUbuntui was reading somewhere it could be a serious issue with USB Bus speeds and kernels :S23:18
AndreaUbuntuwhich is quite a radical bug to solve23:18
mikubuntu_Jordan_U: sorry, got called away.  i haven't had any issues with web video, seems only with dvd that i know of ...23:21
DJJeffgpio_ich: failed to claim resource 0 http://pastie.org/5618577 should I be worried about this?23:21
Jordan_Umikubuntu_: Try playing a video file with the same player that you're playing the DVD with.23:22
alexander__bwhat is the practical differences between running ubuntu with KDE and kubuntu?23:22
alexander__b-/is/are23:23
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Jordan_UAndreaUbuntu: Mostly a stab in the dark, but have you tried using a powered USB HUB?23:23
mikubuntu_Jordan_U: i don't really have any video files saved, usually just watch what is streamed my way23:23
AndreaUbuntuJordan_U, what do u mean? this is an integrated webcam23:23
mikubuntu_Jordan_U: i have watched dvd's in the past, just not recently, but don't remember ever having similar issue23:24
Jordan_UAndreaUbuntu: Ignore that then. There was someone in here a few days ago who had problems with a USB connected camera and solved it by using a powered USB HUB. Though most internal webcams are still connected via USB, so if you have a lot of other USB devices connected that draw a lot of power it might be worth trying to disconnect some of them.23:25
Jordan_Umikubuntu_: Different applications use different APIs to get video to the screen, so my guess is that your problem is with your graphics drivers, and is not specific to DVDs but rather to whatever accelerated rendering your video player is trying to use.23:26
AndreaUbuntuJordan_U, i've got my usb mouse....nothing else...PS cam is fine itself, since it works ok on Windows 7. However I do require a "thermal.off=1" kernel setting. Otherwise the fans never work...and trackpad/keyboard lock up.23:27
dmdrummondIs there a channel for discussing development for the new mobile platform?23:28
AndreaUbuntui just unplugged my mouse, cam still wont work...replugged my mouse...and mouse aint working :S23:29
Robbiliedmdrummond, not yet23:29
Robbiliethe source isnt avaiƶ yete23:29
mikubuntu_Jordan_U: i tried playback on vlc and movie player, both same problem.  i just tried banshee media, and playback is fine.  that solves the immediate problem, thanks.  having another pesky issue. whenever i reboot or start my computer, i have to re-enter the passkey for wireless -- is there some reason that this isn't stored persistantly?23:29
xangua!discuss | dmdrummond Robbilie23:30
ubottudmdrummond Robbilie: Want to talk about Ubuntu but don't have a support question. Join #ubuntu-discuss, for other non-support  discussion not Ubuntu related you can also join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you.23:30
anonymousSo....who wants to help with an interesting issue I'm having? lol23:31
adamkanonymous: Just ask your question.23:31
anonymousSo....my calculator is spitting out the wrong answers lol.23:31
mikubuntu_Jordan_U: and the one other (also pesky) problem i have is that the system tray at the bottom of my screen sometimes comes on, and sometimes doesn't.  if i minimize an app, it goes somewhere, i guess, but it doesn't go into the tray23:32
AndreaUbuntuanonymous, have u tried turning it off and on again? :)23:32
anonymousThat I have :D23:32
AndreaUbuntuhaha23:32
Mise00001is it set to decimal or hex or other?23:32
Mise00001Is the issue with addition, division or some other operation? Which ones?23:33
anonymousWell, mostly multiplication.23:33
Mise00001Does it get all answers wrong or just some?23:33
AndreaUbuntu2x2 != 4? :D23:33
anonymousJust some lol.23:33
anonymousUsually if it's a larger number.23:33
AndreaUbuntuexample? ;D23:33
Slartanonymous: you will have to give us some examples23:33
Mise00001Can you give some examples?23:33
anonymousAlright. 20,000 X 1023:33
anonymousThat's what, 200k?23:34
AndreaUbuntuwhat does it give?23:34
anonymousI get either 2 million23:34
anonymousOr 20 thousand23:34
AndreaUbuntuLOL23:34
nocturiusWhat's the minimum recommended  /boot size for 12.10? I can't find a mandatory answer anywhere... and recommendations range from 60 to 250mb....23:34
AndreaUbuntui get 200k23:34
AndreaUbuntu:P23:34
anonymouslol yeah, well, I should too23:35
anonymouslol23:35
nocturiusI plan to use LVM+LUKS, if that's relevant23:35
Slartanonymous: you get *either*... as in you type it in again and get a different result?23:35
anonymousWell, really depends. It changes from time to time.23:35
anonymousSometimes I get 20,00023:35
AndreaUbuntumadness :D23:35
anonymousSometimes I get 2 million.23:35
rypervenchenocturius: I use 100MiB, but that's overkill for what I need.23:35
Slartanonymous: what calculator is this?23:35
anonymousBasic that's bundled with Ubuntu 12.1023:35
AndreaUbuntuany weird upgrades u did?:S23:36
adamkanonymous: So what I'm taking away from this is that sometimes you do 20000x1 and sometimes you do 20000x100  :-)23:36
anonymousLOL I promise I'm not, I'm in the banking industry I don't fail THAT much.23:36
AndreaUbuntunow we know why the banks screwed us all over :D23:36
anonymousNah, I didn't touch it. Just ran upgrades today, then it started happening.23:36
AndreaUbuntuubuntu's calc!23:36
Slartanonymous: you need to record some kind of movie with this.. or a bunch of screenshots23:36
AndreaUbuntuhmm23:37
Mise00001Ahhh banking industry....calculator returning incorrect answers......likely story...tell it to the judge~ j/k23:37
nocturiusrypervenche: ok, so 100mb should be future-proof?23:37
AndreaUbuntuupgrades, and it happened... :S23:37
Mise00001:)23:37
AndreaUbuntumaybe some bug in the updates?23:37
AndreaUbuntumines up to date23:37
AndreaUbuntuand gives right answer23:37
rypervenchenocturius: Unless you need more than 5 kernels at a time, it'll be fine.23:37
anonymousMeh. I have a Mac I usually work on so it's not imperative that it works.23:38
anonymousI was calculating something for a minute and I'm like wait, I can't be that broke lol23:38
Slartanonymous: have you tried running it from a terminal? just to see if it prints out any error messages23:38
adamkOpen up a bug report, and grab a video of it being broken.23:39
nocturiusrypervenche: ok, thx23:39
anonymousNo, let me try hold on Slart23:39
Stopp,23:39
Stopp,23:39
nocturiusoh, another question: does the choice between ext2/3/4 matter for /boot?23:40
nocturiuswith regard to robustness, mostly23:40
anonymousThat's interesting.23:40
anonymousIsn't it 'galculator' to run from terminal?23:40
Slartanonymous: gnome-calculator23:40
anonymousNope, no error messages.23:41
anonymousI'll post a video on the forums in  the next hour or so.23:41
Slartanonymous: oh.. no error messages.. odd.. I get a gtk warning although my version does give me correct answers23:41
anonymousI receive no such errors :/23:42
rypervenchenocturius: Go with ext223:43
ikoniawhy ?23:43
ikoniawhy use ext223:43
Slartanonymous: what does apt-cache policy gcalctool tell you?23:43
anonymousSlart:  Installed: 6.6.0-0ubuntu123:44
anonymous  Candidate: 6.6.0-0ubuntu123:44
anonymous  Version table:23:44
anonymous *** 6.6.0-0ubuntu1 023:44
anonymous        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages23:44
anonymous        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status23:44
FloodBot1anonymous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:44
Slartanonymous: no no no.. no pasting in the channel.. but the output is the same as on my machine.. what if you try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcalctool" and try doing the calculation again23:45
anonymousMy bad.23:45
anonymousI'll try.23:45
anonymousOne moment.23:45
AndreaUbuntuwhy does stuff break so easily the newer distros get :S23:46
rypervencheAndreaUbuntu: They don't always. It depends on the distro.23:46
AndreaUbuntuI love ubuntu's interface....but man it was so much more solid around 10.1023:47
seednodeMy distro, although infamous for breaking easily, hasn't ever had issues for me23:47
dr_willisNon LTS releases are normally for testing new ideas and thus may be more unstable.23:47
dr_willisIve not really had any issues with 12.1023:48
AndreaUbuntui found 12.10 more stable than 12.04 to be honest!23:48
AndreaUbuntu12.04 just kept bringing up that report tool23:48
AndreaUbuntuover and over again23:48
AndreaUbuntucrashing this and crashing that23:48
dr_willisAndreaUbuntu:  or it just had some old logs that never got cleaned out.. so it kept reporting the same crash23:48
AndreaUbuntualas, my webcam worked on 12.04 but not on 12.10 :S23:48
dr_willisThat may be more of a kernel issue then a ubuntu issue.  But i rarely mess with webcams23:49
AndreaUbuntudr_willis, yes, i think its kernel too23:49
cnuulhuHey guys, I'm upgrading from a very old version of Ubuntu to 12.04 (LTS) using a fresh install. I'm familiar with using rsync -av on /home to back up user files and settings, but how do I restore from that backup after upgrading?23:49
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Tex_Nickbest thing to do ... check the distro hardware compatibility ... then custom build the pc with compatible components23:50
bekksJust use rsync -av again.23:50
AndreaUbuntudr_willis, old logs for a new install? :)23:50
dr_willisAndreaUbuntu:  ive seen where a single crash just gets reported over and over.. its easy to clean out apport/disable it.23:50
AndreaUbuntuI also love the changes to buttons etc on 12.1023:50
cnuulhubekks: So, even without having to create new users or anything, just rsyncing with /home on the new system will create those new users for me?23:50
AndreaUbuntucan they be applied to 12.04?23:50
cnuulhu[Is my question clear?]23:51
bekkscnuulhu: No. rsync will recreate their files.23:51
blamicnuulhu: no23:51
blamicnuulhu: rsync just transfer their files23:51
dr_willisI alwyas am sure to add users on a new system, back in the same order. ;) but with 4 users.. thats easy to rember23:51
cnuulhuSo, I re-add the new users, then rsync their home directories back in?23:51
blamidr_willis: that's why I use local ldap23:52
bekksA copy of /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow willbe helpfull.23:52
blamidr_willis: just sync from backup ... I think it would be lot easier to migrate and manage systems if ubuntu came with that setup as default23:52
bekksblami: LDAP by default?:P23:53
AndreaUbuntuwell good night my fellow ubuntusers23:53
cnuulhubekks: So, syncing /home as well as /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow will be sufficient to re-add the previous users as well as their files?23:53
bekkscnuulhu: No.23:53
bekkscnuulhu: helpfull != sufficient23:53
bekksIn addition with /etc/group these three files contain all necessary information to manually recreate the users.23:54
blamicnuulhu: I wouldn't do that ... rather note information about users and just recreate them with same uid gid and groups they belong to ...23:54
blamibekks: except passwords :)23:54
bekksblami: /etc/shadow ...23:54
demondinhi23:54
cnuulhublami: Okay, that's easy enough. This is just a home desktop, everyone can re-enter their passwords as necessary.23:55
Hiroshello23:55
blamicopying hashes by hand?23:55
demondinyou guys obviously use ubuntu, right?23:55
cnuulhuThank you all very much.23:55
blamibekks: I bet ordinary users wouldn't notice they are using local ldap, hm?23:55
F3SpeechHaving problems moving file system from usb to hdd, have moved file system, installed grub, updated, updated fsbab mounts. on reboot with usb still i can choose the new disk and it boots find no problems, however as soon as i remove my usb i appear to lose access to sudo etc and system starts chruning error about missing fs. any ideas how to finilise the fs transfer so i can remove my original usb.23:55
demondini have a question about ubuntu23:56
demondinello?23:57
bekksblami: local LDAP will not help you at all. You'll have to restore the LDAP config instead of three files only.23:57
F3Speechdemondin: ask your question someone will answer if they know23:58
demondinokay23:58
demondini want to install ubuntu on my older laptop (not really old) but im just worried about losing all the files...is that going to happen?23:58
blamibekks: it does. If you have reasonable configuration you just copy it over and then import original schema23:58
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blamibekks: (and copy home directories) ... tada, everything done23:59
blamibekks: no need to fiddle with passwords, groups, etc.23:59
bekksblami: Which is the SAME effort as just recreating the users according to the three files.23:59
F3Speechdemondin: short answer is yes, back them up first23:59
blamibekks: in case of 4 users, sure (but still I am lazy)23:59

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