[00:00] <Jordan_U> zoie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171287/how-to-pass-record-audio-output-as-an-input-device
[00:01] <xui34> jrib: it would be really convenient if i could just go to add a printer, it see it, and then i can select it.
[00:03] <jrib> xui34: http://www.cups-pdf.de/ maybe has some useful info
[00:04] <jrib> xui34: so I guess you can just setup cups-pdf on your server; or at least that's how it reads
[00:04] <zoie> Jordan_U: i tried but it didn't help : http://i.imgur.com/NYvGw.png
[00:04] <konam> hi, i have a Dell Inspiron 14z (N411z) and everything is recognized out of the box! except for the fact that the touchpad doesn't seem to be very sensitive, sometimes it doesn't even register several clicks made in a row! (made on the touchpad, not the buttons). also, the touchpad doesn't seem to be very fast even though it is configured to be at its fastest on the settings. this touchpad sucks on windows, but not on this level. on windows it never misses cli
[00:04] <konam> cks
[00:04] <xui34> jrib: that might actually be what i'm looking for basically
[00:04] <jrib> xui34: it's in the repositories too (as cups-pdf)
[00:05] <xui34> jrib: i wasn't thinking of it as a piece of software although if i can setup a simple computer and install that it might do what i want
[00:05] <jrib> xui34: what were you thinking of originally?
[00:06] <bt5> exit
[00:06] <SailorMoon> Another noob question: Can i install RPM packages?
[00:06] <jrib> SailorMoon: you shouldn't.  Use the repositories and APT
[00:06] <jrib> !software | SailorMoon
[00:06] <SailorMoon> But what if i want to use Oracle's Java instead of the openJDK thing, jrib?
[00:07] <jrib> !java | SailorMoon
[00:07] <xui34> jrib: i was thinking there maybe was a complete product (like a storage device that emulated a printer on the network; that fake printer that you printed to over the network would store the pdfs on the device itself)
[00:07] <jrib> xui34: oh I see.  Like a ready-made hardware device
[00:08] <xui34> jrib: yes- exactly
[00:08] <jrib> xui34: I guess you can make one with cups pdf :)
[00:08] <xui34> jrib: it would be extremely handy.
[00:08] <SailorMoon> very complex install. not worth it. lol
[00:08] <xui34> jrib: yea- i think cups pdf might work
[00:11] <zoie> Jordan_U: any idea as to why it's not working?
[00:11] <SailorMoon> whats a good way to test 3D HWA?
[00:11] <SailorMoon> i want to be sure the graphics driver is working or whatver :P
[00:13] <Muphrid> SailorMoon: what is the brand?
[00:13] <SailorMoon> Intel
[00:14] <SailorMoon> Its like an Intel GMA 845 or something along those lines
[00:14] <Muphrid> then it is free software and included in the respective xorg package by default
[00:14] <Muphrid> xorg-xserver-video-intel i believe
[00:14] <spjt> SailorMoon: probably the screensaver
[00:14] <zoie> i followed step by step this how to (using audacity instead of sound recorder, but it's still flat :()
[00:15] <Muphrid> you can still test it in glxinfo or glxgears
[00:15] <zoie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1440833
[00:15] <Muphrid> the easiest way
[00:16] <SailorMoon> testing with Minecraft
[00:16] <SailorMoon> thats how i role
[00:16] <SailorMoon> Or roll
[00:18] <moncapitane> how do I get around an issue when the server is in init=/bin/bash (single user mode) and when I run passwd, it doesn't prompt for the password but gives me the following error: passwd: authentication token manipulation error passwd: password unchanged
[00:18] <moncapitane> partition is in rw and the shadow file has 000 permissions
[00:19] <SailorMoon> Fullscreen mode doesnt work. it did on Mint. So. :P lol
[00:19] <genii-around> moncapitane: Is / mounted rw ?
[00:20] <Muphrid> SailorMoon: that could also be a DE problem.
[00:20] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: Why are you using init=/bin/bash rather than actually using single user mode? Why does /etc/shadow have 000 permissions when it should have 640?
[00:21] <moncapitane> I don't know the root password so I didn't know single would work and 640 doesn't work either.
[00:21] <litropy> Hi, all. #httpd is quiet. I've just installed standard apache2 on ubuntu; I've added cgi-bin to www, and I'm just looking to give execcgi access to that folder. Is it just a matter of editing apache2.conf with this (used /n for returns to avoid irc scrolling): <Directory /var/www/cgi-bin> /n Options ExecCGI /n SetHandler cgi-script /n </Directory>
[00:21] <moncapitane> Jordan_U: no matter the permissions, I get the same error
[00:21] <moncapitane> 000 or 640
[00:22] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: There is no root password by default in Ubuntu, and thus no password prompt for single user mode. (And as you know, a prompt for a password for single user mode is already a little silly, given how easily it can be bypassed if you have local access to the machine).
[00:22] <hydrox24> moncapitane: Sorry, I just logged in, can you repeat the error for me and what program it's coming from?
[00:22] <moncapitane> how do I get around an issue when the server is in init=/bin/bash (single user mode) and when I run passwd, it doesn't prompt for the password but gives me the following error: passwd: authentication token manipulation error passwd: password unchanged
[00:22] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: Why was it ever 000?
[00:23] <hydrox24> are you talking about the permissions of a certain file?
[00:23] <Ryan52> Hi, I have a script that uses ANSI color codes but I can't seem to escape them for line length purposes, I tried to use \[ which works for $PS1 gets ignored and \001 which works on Mac OS X just gets printed as well. Anybody have any ideas for alternatives?
[00:23] <moncapitane> yes, on /etc/shadow hydrox24
[00:23] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: It sounds like you have some serious problems with your installation, and I think figuring out what got you to this state will help figure out how to fix things and set whatever password you want to set. (By the way, you should *not* set a root password).
[00:23] <hydrox24> Because the solution seems to be remounting root as read/write....
[00:23] <hydrox24> mount -rw -o remount /
[00:24] <moncapitane> hydrox24: already did that, same error
[00:24] <moncapitane> Jordan_U: I understand, i'm trying with my user cst##### and it gives me the same error, passwd cst##### authentication without the ability to type anything in
[00:24] <hydrox24> did the command work?
[00:24] <moncapitane> hydrox24: yes, command went through without any issues
[00:24] <hydrox24> try making a file in the root directory and removing it again.
[00:24] <moncapitane> already did that
[00:24] <hydrox24> touch tempfilefordebug
[00:24] <moncapitane> I can create a file called test
[00:25] <hydrox24> ok.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: Why were the permissions on /etc/shadow ever 000?
[00:25] <moncapitane> because all the forums I was reading said it needs to be 000
[00:25] <hydrox24> check that the date is set correctly in bios and that the timestamp on the shadow file isn't weird
[00:25] <moncapitane> the date if right
[00:25] <|Anthony|> looking in the repo for teamspeak, there is only an i386 package... is that still usable on the amd64 arch
[00:25] <moncapitane> already chekced all of that.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: Can you link to one of these forums? (because that's completely wrong).
[00:26] <moncapitane> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91188/authentication-token-manipulation-error
[00:26] <moncapitane> thats one of them.
[00:26] <moncapitane> Jordan_U: current permissions on /etc/shadow is 640
[00:26] <moncapitane> same error appears
[00:26] <|Anthony|> anyone have a thought on that?
[00:27] <moncapitane> |Anthony|: yes, you can use i368 packages on a 64 bit machine
[00:27] <|Anthony|> danka
[00:27] <litropy> moncapitane, do you remember the moment when you noticed this issue? Do you remember what you were doing before then?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> moncapitane: Try actually booting into single user mode, rather than bypassing init completely as you're doing with init=/bin/bash, and see if that works. You can get to single user mode by selecting the "recovery mode" entry from the grub menu.
[00:28] <moncapitane> Jordan_U: when I use recovery mode, it still asks for the current password or use ctrl-d to continue when I go to prompt
[00:28] <excervo> hello guys, where can i get chat support with macos?
[00:28] <litropy> excervo, #mac
[00:29] <excervo> litropy, thanks
[00:29] <moncapitane> I just did single in the grub and now it says, give root password for maintenance (or type control-d to continue): and I don't know the password
[00:29] <hydrox24> |Anthony|: if you have any issues installing it (dependencies and the like) just run "sudo apt-get -f install" without any package names or anything to fix the issues.
[00:29] <hydrox24> control-d then?
[00:30] <litropy> excervo, #macdev if you're programming, but they're a little grumpy.
[00:30] <moncapitane> puts me back at the recovery menu
[00:30] <moncapitane> options are resume, clean, dpkg, grub, netroot, root
[00:30] <hydrox24> moncapitane: maybe the best way to go is to boot from a USB or CD and mount the root filesystem from there.
[00:30] <moncapitane> Yea, that is a good idea.
[00:30] <|Anthony|> hydrox24, it's listing a bunch of i386 deps... mostly c libraries and gcc
[00:31] <|Anthony|> is that going to interfere with the 64 bit versions already installed/
[00:31] <hydrox24> no.
[00:31] <hydrox24> It's normal, just go ahead and install them, it might take a while if this is your first i386 package.
[00:32] <|Anthony|> sure is
[00:32] <|Anthony|> :/
[00:32] <|Anthony|> tried to maintain a 64 bit system
[00:32] <|Anthony|> heh
[00:32] <zoie> i'm not able to record my output sound with audacity; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1440833 i've followed this step by step guide but it's still flat http://i.imgur.com/NYvGw.png
[00:32] <|Anthony|> wonder why there is no 64 bit version of ts in the repos
[00:32] <Muphrid> it is proprietary software
[00:32] <marcus__> uhum
[00:32] <|Anthony|> mmm
[00:32] <Muphrid> and TS is basically using wine as its emulator
[00:33] <Muphrid> if you extract the deb package you will see a wine folder
[00:33] <|Anthony|> ha
[00:33] <|Anthony|> that's funny
[00:33] <excervo> litropy, tried to join #mac but it ses i must be invited
[00:33] <|Anthony|> though ts was native linux
[00:33] <|Anthony|> guess not
[00:33] <litropy> excervo, try /join ##mac
[00:34] <zyngawow> Can anyone please help? I dediced to install ubuntu and I get the following message: "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try intsalling again". I am using the 12.10 64 bits version, and my processor is an i3 530.
[00:34] <Muphrid> no it isnt
[00:34] <Muphrid> and wine relies on lib32
[00:34] <|Anthony|> well, that'll do it i suppose
[00:35] <sickoo> xfv
[00:35] <sickoo> hi
[00:35] <ClientAlive> I'm trying to understand burning an avi documentary onto a dvd and playing it. I've only ever use k3b on ubuntu before but never for anything like this. If the device I'll be playing the dvd in plays .avi then do I even need to convert the file? Can't I just burn the avi file as avi and shove it in the player?
[00:36] <casa> buenas noches
[00:36] <Muphrid> ClientAlive: I dont know how your player acts, in mine I just make a data project and add the avi files there
[00:36] <casa> ubuntu es el mejor sistema del mundo
[00:36] <excervo> litropy, can't join ##mac it ask me to be identified with the services
[00:37] <Jordan_U> ClientAlive: If the device your playing on supports that partucular video's codecs, then you're fine. AVI is a container format, and tells you next to nothing about what codecs are actually used.
[00:37] <litropy> excervo, it seems you have to register your nick.
[00:37] <ClientAlive> Muphrid: ok. Well it's an xbox 360. Idk either but guess I can try it.
[00:37] <litropy> excervo, /join #freenode and ask them to help you.
[00:37] <ClientAlive> ok
[00:37] <excervo> litropy, thanks ill try that
[00:37] <ESphynx> Hey guys... when I turn on 3D acceleration in VirtualBox, my desktop disappears... WTH? like it's on another screen or something?
[00:38] <iceroot> excervo: its normal for apple-stuff that you are not allowed to do specific things ;)
[00:38] <zyngawow> Please can somebody help with an error installing ubuntu? I guess it has to do with HDDs. I get the following message: "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try intsalling again". I am using the 12.10 64 bits version, and my processor is an i3 530. If I try to mount the HDDs, I get this: error mounting filesystem not authorized to perform operat
[00:38] <ESphynx> i can interact with the desktop (e.g. create a file there) but it's like that's not the main screen? so it's unusable
[00:38] <ClientAlive> I suppose I want to be sure the thing recognizes there being a file on the disc. Maybe be sure it isn't burned on there inside a directory or something?
[00:39] <psychopathic> hi guys
[00:40] <christopher> hello all
[00:41] <litropy> #httpd is quiet. I've just installed standard apache2 on ubuntu; I've added cgi-bin to www, and I'm just looking to give execcgi access to that folder. Is it just a matter of editing apache2.conf with this: <Directory /var/www/cgi-bin> /n Options ExecCGI /n SetHandler cgi-script /n </Directory>  (used /n for returns to avoid irc scrolling)
[00:41] <christopher> anybody familiar with the book ubuntu unleashed?
[00:42] <psychopathic> christopher, it contains the basics
[00:42] <MoL0ToV> zyngawow, you can delete all contenent in the disk? if yes, do: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda ; then after 30 secs CTRL+C ; then run the installer
[00:43] <christopher> I am thinking about ordering it.  Is it recommended?
[00:43] <litropy> Is there a more active chan for apache2 than #httpd?
[00:44] <zyngawow> MoL0ToV: I formatted both HDDs
[00:44] <iceroot> !alis | litropy
[00:44] <litropy> iceroot, thx
[00:44] <MoL0ToV> zyngawow, with dd command you delete all info in the disks
[00:44] <MoL0ToV> so bad or not standard info about partitions go away
[00:45] <dr_willis> zyngawow:  how did you partition the disks?
[00:45] <zyngawow> MoL0ToV: I do sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda;?
[00:45] <zyngawow> dr_willis: disks tool on ubuntu
[00:45] <dr_willis> zyngawow:  and you made them what filesystem?
[00:45] <zyngawow> ext4
[00:47] <dr_willis> so whats the actual problrm then?  you tell the installer to use one of the ext4's as the / and you get an error?
[00:47] <F3Speech> looking for some help with a networking error using cli - basic prob is usb wifi adaptor will only connect to network is i reset my router
[00:47] <zyngawow> dr_willis: the installer doesnt run again
[00:47] <MoL0ToV> zyngawow, on the disk there are sda1 as ext4 and sda2 as linux-swap?
[00:48] <MoL0ToV> ot what partitions config?
[00:48] <zyngawow> MoL0ToV: no, that wasnt working, so I formatted everything to just ext4
[00:48] <dr_willis> zyngawow:  after partitiong ive seen cases where a reboot is needed to  refresh the partition info
[00:48] <zyngawow> 20 reboots?
[00:48] <MoL0ToV> zyngawow, if you install linux you need minimal 2 partitions, 1 monted as root and other linux-swap
[00:49] <zyngawow> MoL0ToV: The thing is, I cant install
[00:49] <MoL0ToV> ok
[00:49] <MoL0ToV> use the dd command
[00:49] <dr_willis> zyngawow:  i dont know your details.    if you got a ext4 partition use the 'somthing else' option in the installer and have it mounted to /
[00:49] <MoL0ToV> then reboot and installer must work
[00:50] <moncapitane> Jordan_U: you still around?  I booted with a knoppix cd and tried to mount and chroot and passwd and get the same error
[00:50] <dr_willis> whats  happening when you run the installer exactly?
[00:50] <moncapitane> Jordan_U: what else can I look for?
[00:50] <zyngawow> 1 sec
[00:51] <zyngawow> Ok, I get t the livecd session, what should I do know
[00:51] <zyngawow> oh
[00:51] <zyngawow> now I get black console screen
[00:51] <zyngawow> just that
[00:51] <virtuelv> I had a brief look at the Ubuntu web site - is there any SDK documentation around without downloading the SDK?
[00:52] <virtuelv> specifically for the HTML5 SDK
[00:54] <F3Speech> anyway know there way around troubleshooting wifi problems from cli?
[00:54] <dr_willis> F3Speech:  theres various wireless commands in the cli
[00:55] <dr_willis> iwlist and other iw* commands
[00:55] <dr_willis> !wifi
[00:55] <F3Speech> yeah, i have a particular problem i need some help with, googled what i cant but no fix
[00:55] <F3Speech> my wifi works fine but only when i restart my router
[00:56] <dr_willis> you have to reboot the router every time you boot up ubuntu?
[00:56] <F3Speech> the server boots ok but just with no connection
[00:57] <moncapitane> dr_willis: how do I figure out the cause of the inability to reset passwords using the passwd command?  doesn't give me a way to put in a password but gives authentication error
[00:57] <F3Speech> then if i reboot my router it will detect and connect
[00:58] <dr_willis> moncapitane:  odd.    even 'sudo passwd username' wont change the users password?
[00:59] <F3Speech> theres a couple of things that might point to a problem, if i unplug my wifi and reconnect it i get the fdollowing error ath: Failed to wakeup in 500us
[00:59] <moncapitane> dr_willis: no, gives the passwd: authentication token manipulation error
[00:59] <moncapitane> Its not like i'm getting to enter a new password or anything.
[00:59] <dr_willis> moncapitane:  could be the passwd file or /etc/shadow is currupted.
[00:59] <dr_willis> or / is read only
[01:00] <adfk> i accidentally deleted my /etc/printcap. how do i restore it?
[01:00] <moncapitane> mounted as rw from the knoppix live cd before going to chroot
[01:00] <moncapitane> already re-built the shadow file.
[01:00] <moncapitane> How do you re-create the passwd file if shadow is fubared?
[01:00] <moncapitane> passwd permissions are 644 and shadow is 640
[01:01] <jrib> moncapitane: you have a /etc/passwd- .  But how did they become fubared?
[01:01] <dr_willis> no idea. manes me wonder why all this broke in the first place
[01:01] <moncapitane> What is the passwd- file?
[01:01] <iceroot> adfk: # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8)
[01:01] <moncapitane> jrib: not sure, i'm a new admin to the box and hasn't worked since I got it
[01:01] <iceroot> adfk: /etc/cups/printers.conf  is used to create the file
[01:01] <jrib> moncapitane: well /etc/passwd- is a backup of /etc/passwd
[01:02] <moncapitane> passwd- is from 2 minutes before passwd was generated and there isn't a shadow-
[01:02] <adfk> i don't have a printers.conf in my /etc/cups directory.
[01:02] <sneezer> hi, I want to ask you a question... I will install Linux sometime, how do you advice me to use it? via LiveCD or in a different partition with dual boot??
[01:02] <jrib> moncapitane: what is your question?
[01:02] <cordoval> why virtualbox is broken?
[01:02] <cordoval> anyone knows a fix?
[01:02] <cordoval> on ubuntu 12.10
[01:02] <genii-around> sneezer: The usual way is dual-boot
[01:03] <moncapitane> jrib: I'm trying to reset passwords but i'm not able to input anything.  Just gives authentication error
[01:03] <jrib> moncapitane: what did you mean by "fubar" exactly when you said passwd and shadow were fubar?
[01:04] <F3Speech> dr_willis: the other thing thats not right is when i /etc/network/inferfaces restart i get the following error ioctlsiocsiwencodeext]: invalid argument
[01:04] <moncapitane> there isn't any entries in passwd or shadow that had the hash for the passwords.  Its just x
[01:04] <iceroot> jrib:  fucked up beyond all recognition
[01:04] <sneezer> @genii-around thanks, I will do that... just to be sure I was doing the right way. I want to explore and learn more about linux
[01:04] <moncapitane> is there a way to fully rebuild the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files?
[01:04] <jrib> moncapitane: you're being too vague.
[01:04] <iceroot> moncapitane: from your backup
[01:05] <moncapitane> iceroot: no backups on the server
[01:05] <moncapitane> i'm not the one who built it.
[01:05] <adfk> how can i uninstall the LPR driver?
[01:05] <jrib> moncapitane: what ubuntu version is this anyway?
[01:05] <moncapitane> 10.04 LTS
[01:05] <iceroot> moncapitane: you could use a live-cd create a user and set the password "foobar" copy the hash and put it in your broken passwd
[01:05] <jrib> moncapitane: so your shadow file had "x" for passwords?  Are you sure?
[01:06] <iceroot> in the shadow of course..
[01:06] <moncapitane> iceroot: tried that, didn't work to log in after I put it in shdow
[01:06] <moncapitane> shadow*
[01:06] <F3Speech> anyone else got a bit of knowhow debugging wifi setups?
[01:06] <jrib> !ask | F3Speech
[01:07] <BlueNeXuS> hi all
[01:08] <adfk> here's what i've concluded. ubuntu told me there was a missing printer driver. so i downloaded it from the brother site, but my model is the dcp-7030 and i got the LPR's rpm for the dcp-7040. i deleted /etc/printcap and installed the correct rpm, but it still says "missing driver".
[01:08] <jrib> adfk: have you checked the !printing factoid?
[01:08] <adfk> !printing
[01:08] <BlueNeXuS> is anyone familar with a download manager called GetJet?
[01:09] <jrib> BlueNeXuS: just ask your question; if someone knows the answer they will help you
[01:09] <BlueNeXuS> it's giving he issues..
[01:09] <iceroot> adfk: you know that ubuntu is not using rpm?
[01:10] <F3Speech> When I sudo /etc/network/inferfaces restart I get the following error ioctl[siocsiwencodeext]: invalid argument can any on help debug this? I also have a maybe related problem that my wifi adaptor will only connect after I've rebooted my router any help would also be apreciated on this.
[01:10] <BlueNeXuS> It cane preinstalled on this ubuntu. and when i try to dowload anything, from any of my broswers it tells me to wait  until the current downlooad finishes because it can not downnload more than one file at a time with that version..  However.. it does that even if its the only one downloading.. hence. i can not download anything at all
[01:11] <BlueNeXuS> I've checked to see if it was a broswer addon and it is now.. I can not find it withing the installed software list eiteher to remove it
[01:11] <adfk> well i installed the cups rpm successfully.
[01:11] <BlueNeXuS> and ideas?
[01:11] <adfk> cups start/running, process 3727
[01:11] <jrib> adfk: erm, you already had cups... how did you install the cups rpm?
[01:11] <iceroot> F3Speech: that is a normal config file and not an init-script
[01:12] <adfk> i installed the LPR driver instead.
[01:12] <iceroot> F3Speech: also ubuntu is using upstart, which means "sudo service networking restart" instead of "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[01:12] <jrib> BlueNeXuS: how did you install ubuntu?
[01:12] <iceroot> adfk: why you are using rpms?
[01:12] <BlueNeXuS> it's installed as a vm from an .iso
[01:12] <iceroot> adfk: cups is in the normal ubuntu repos
[01:12] <adfk> because i didn't see the .debs on the site...
[01:12] <iceroot> adfk: are you sure you are using ubuntu?
[01:12] <adfk> that i'm sure of.
[01:13] <Freeder> whats the best way to figure out what is causing a high system load? top doesn't show the culprit, its all at 0%
[01:13] <iceroot> adfk: you dont have to go to websites to download software, use "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[01:13] <iceroot> Freeder: even %wa?
[01:13] <jrib> BlueNeXuS: ask the provider of the .iso then.  I have never heard of getjet
[01:13] <jrib> Freeder: if it's all at 0% then there is no high system load
[01:13] <F3Speech> iceroot: i did mean init.d sorry, when i /etc/init.d/networking restart i get the error
[01:14] <BlueNeXuS> if i could find it to unstall it and let the broswers do their own downloading that'd be great
[01:14] <iceroot> F3Speech: use the service command
[01:14] <BlueNeXuS> but thanks jrib
[01:14] <jrib> BlueNeXuS: I would not trust such an .iso.  Who knows what else is on that thing
[01:14] <sneezer> sorry the off-topic but i'm struggling right now with webchat, which irc client do you guys advise me?
[01:15] <jrib> sneezer: try xchat
[01:15] <BlueNeXuS> hrmm.. i suppose i could try installing another download manager and let  it set to default
[01:15] <iceroot> sneezer: try xchat for example, easy to use
[01:15] <F3Speech> iceroot: what command is that?
[01:15] <jrib> BlueNeXuS: why don't you use the official ubuntu iso?
[01:15] <iceroot> F3Speech: also ubuntu is using upstart, which means "sudo service networking restart" instead of "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[01:15] <sneezer> Thanks, can I use it in Ubunto?
[01:15] <jrib> sneezer: yes
[01:15] <Freeder> jrib: uptime shows a high load.
[01:16] <sneezer> Thank you, and happy new year every one ;)
[01:16] <iceroot> sneezer: you will find xchat in the software center or by using "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[01:16] <iceroot> Freeder: and what is a "high load"?
[01:16] <Freeder> iceroot, not familiar with %wa ?
[01:16] <Freeder> 8
[01:16] <iceroot> Freeder: how much cores?
[01:17] <Freeder> 1
[01:17] <iceroot> Freeder: ok then 8 is high, could you paste the first lines from top?
[01:17] <iceroot> !paste | Freeder
[01:17] <iceroot> Freeder: Cpu(s):  6.3%us,  1.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 91.7%id,  0.4%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[01:17] <iceroot> Freeder: that line is important
[01:18] <Freeder> alright, give me a moment, thanks
[01:18] <Freeder> but there is no 'better' tool than top, right?
[01:18] <iceroot> Freeder: and normally %wa is the reason for a high load, its the io waiting time (cpu is waiting for the hdd to deliver data)
[01:18] <F3Speech> iceroot: ran the command and got told stop: unknown instance which i guess makes sense as its not connected. then then ran the same cxommand with start and got told Failed to bring up wlan0
[01:18] <iceroot> F3Speech: you edited /etc/network/interfaces by hand for wlan0?
[01:18] <Freeder> iceroot: where does that %wa go? I see wa listed in the top man, but no reference to a %...
[01:19] <F3Speech> iceroot: yes followed the wiki
[01:19] <iceroot> F3Speech: which wiki is suggesting to edit /etc/network/interfaces to have wifi on a desktop system?
[01:19] <WeThePeople> vlanx, what dist?
[01:19] <F3Speech> im on server
[01:20] <WeThePeople> vlanx, oops, did you figure it out
[01:20] <iceroot> F3Speech: ah ok, so a server without the network-manager way
[01:20] <F3Speech> iceroot:  yes
[01:20] <iceroot> F3Speech: could you paste your /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:20] <iceroot> !paste | F3Speech
[01:22] <F3Speech> iceroot: will do might take awhile as it not connected to this pc or net :)
[01:22] <synrat> asd
[01:23] <phpguy> I Ubuntu 12.10 and I downgraded my flash from 11.2 because it was very buggy.  So i replace libflashplayer.so like the ubuntu forum said to do and now I am hanging on reboot. I have been having no problems until I replaced that file. I have attempted recovery console and livecd and then replacing the file with the original but nothing still hangs. I have even removed quiet splash and replaced with nomodeset and there are no errors.
[01:23] <jrib> phpguy: where exactly did you put the file?
[01:23] <n0yd> lol
[01:23] <phpguy> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:24] <jrib> phpguy: where exactly is it hanging?
[01:24] <n0yd> just replacing that file would not cause it not to boot
[01:24] <devjosh1> Yeah, I don't see the connection.
[01:25] <phpguy> as soon as the splash screen comes up or when nomodeset it hangs as soon as it the blinking line comes up. That doesn't even blink.
[01:25] <jrib> phpguy: recovery mode boots ok?
[01:25] <phpguy> jrib YES SIR
[01:26] <TommehM> Every time I attempt to boot teamviewer it gives me this error and refuses to boot, http://dropfuse.com/1360
[01:26] <devjosh1> I'm going to boot this 12.10 next to BackTrack5 on my Thinkpad.
[01:26] <phpguy> jrib also tried resume still hangs with no errors just an fyi
[01:26] <devjosh1> Hmm, an SSL error.
[01:26] <jrib> phpguy: what do you mean by "tried resume"?
[01:27] <seeqwell> How can I see if my hard drive is sata, raid or ata on ubuntu please?
[01:27] <phpguy> jrib from Recovery mode
[01:27] <devjosh1> some utility not found...
[01:27] <devjosh1> very strange
[01:27] <phpguy> recovery mode menu*
[01:27] <jrib> phpguy: did you do anything else other than replace that flash file?
[01:27] <n0yd> he had to off, before he replaced the file
[01:27] <Slart> seeqwell: tried the "disk utility" ?
[01:27] <n0yd> s/of/off
[01:28] <phpguy> no I had been coding on my ftp server all day but that was remote.
[01:28] <seeqwell> thanks Slart
[01:28] <Septima> so, i'm reading through this asus motherboard manual and come across the usb 3.0 section. it's got 4 usb 3.0 ports on the board the back panel and 1 header for usb 3.0 on forward ports. it says though, that usb 3.0 is only supported in windows due to limitations set forth by intel for the chipset ports and asmedia for the usb 3.0 controller ports; can someone shed some light on this? true or not?
[01:28] <F3Speech> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490404/ as requested
[01:29] <Septima> the intel chipset in question is the Z77; and i'm mainly wondering, are those ports going to be dead when used with Ubuntu, or can they be made to work like usb 2.0?
[01:29] <Slart> Septima: which asus motherboard is it?
[01:29] <Septima> Slart: P8Z77-V LE
[01:29] <n0yd> If it is true, its just a driver issue.
[01:31] <n0yd> the z77 was originally compatible with windows, but it appears it works fine with linux now
[01:31] <Slart> Septima: I have an older asus motherboard (formula 4) and usb 3 works nicely here.. or .. I'm not getting doppler-shifted with speed.. but it seems to be working alright
[01:32] <jrib> phpguy: well as others said, replacing that file certainly shouldn't have anything to do with the issue you are having now.  Have you tried booting an earlier kernel or looking for interesting things in /var/log/?
[01:32] <Septima> n0yd: did you find something on it?
[01:32] <Septima> i haven't had any luck finding anything on it
[01:33] <n0yd> Septima, nothing you couldnt find by googling
[01:33] <phpguy> jrib I have tried booting an earlier kernel and it still hangs. So I am sure the kernel is fine. as to the logs I am looking now
[01:33] <n0yd> z77 is a pretty common chipset
[01:34] <WeThePeople> anybody know how to edit iCall files?
[01:34] <ezrafree> hello all, i am having an issue where suddenly my ubuntu box stops booting after the message "Checking battery state" and I am seeing online that one cause may be I need to reinstall my graphics drivers. only problem is, i have intel graphics card, how can i reinstall the drivers for it?
[01:34] <WeThePeople> i get a upgrade error
[01:34] <n0yd> phpguy, so recovery doesnt actually boot then?
[01:34] <phpguy> nope I can get it to console and thats it
[01:34] <n0yd> well, that is booting....
[01:34] <ezrafree> lspci shows this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:35] <ezrafree> does anyone know how to reinstall the drivers for the Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller?
[01:35] <phpguy> n0yd no not when you drop to root console in a read only system
[01:36] <phpguy> I did not mean to imply that it booted to console. I have to select drop to root console from the recovery menu.
[01:36] <percent20> can someone say something with my nick in it? am testing something.
[01:36] <n0yd> percent20,
[01:37] <somsip> !test | percent20
[01:37] <percent20> sweet. thanks guys. worked like a charm :)
[01:37] <percent20> somsip: thanks for letting me know about that.
[01:38] <ezrafree> anyone here know how to reinstall the drivers for an intel graphics card?
[01:38] <phpguy> brb searching for something
[01:38] <n0yd> ezrafree, what are you looking at online, first of all
[01:39] <ezrafree> n0yd: how do you mean?
[01:39] <ezrafree> what website told me it may be a graphics driver issue, you mean?
[01:39] <n0yd> yes
[01:39] <ezrafree> n0yd: ubuntuforums.org
[01:39] <n0yd> '....
[01:39] <n0yd> ok great
[01:40] <F3Speech> Can anyone else look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490404/ spot any problems while iceroot gets back, thanks.
[01:40] <n0yd> What..... Article
[01:40] <ezrafree> they said because it stopped right after the "checking battery state" message that it's probably grpahics drivers because that's when the drivers are loaded next
[01:40] <ezrafree> n0yd: i'd have to search and find it, they were using nvidia drivers unlike me, one sec
[01:40] <BluPhenix316> I'm confused about the information on the new Ubuntu Phones, will we be able to use Ubuntu Mobile OS this year, or we have to wait for phones next year?
[01:40] <n0yd> ezrafree, ya, i doubt that is your issue
[01:40] <ezrafree> oh no here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820
[01:40] <n0yd> dont waste your time
[01:41] <ezrafree> n0yd: okay, any other thoughts on what i could look at it to determine the exact issue?
[01:41] <BluPhenix316> i'm still trying to figure out where i can buy a ubuntu tv
[01:41] <ezrafree> i've checked any logs i could think of but nothing yet
[01:41] <BluPhenix316> anyone know where i can get more information about Ubuntu Phones and TV?
[01:42] <ezrafree> now i get a second error, immediately after "Checking battery state" that says ata2.00: SError: { HostIn 10B8B }
[01:42] <ezrafree> that, i believe, is an issue with my seagate 2TB drive
[01:42] <ezrafree> not sure if they are related though
[01:42] <MMavipc> I want text boot but gui after boot, So I see messages during boot, and at the end of boot the gui starts up. I have the grub default cmdline set to "", but I just see a blank screen now until the gui starts up
[01:43] <ezrafree> hrm I guess I may just have to try reinstalling ubuntu heh
[01:43] <ezrafree> clearly i messed something up real good
[01:43] <n0yd> no idea
[01:43] <kslater> ugh. Well this upgrade hasn't gone well so far. Didn't intent to do a fresh install but I'm basically doing that now since one of my attempts at getting grub going again resulted in my user account being nuked.
[01:44] <kslater> I guess I'll find out just how good backintime is at backups..
[01:44] <kslater> :-/
[01:48] <redderhs> anyone here compiled mame before?
[01:50] <Sling> redderhs: im sure people have, what is your real question?
[01:50] <redderhs> My question is how can I apply the No Nag- High Score patch to the source code
[01:51] <Phaeyx>  i have a question..
[01:51] <MMavipc> is there a way to have text boot but gui after boot, So I see messages during boot, and at the end of boot the gui starts up. I have the grub default cmdline set to "", but I just see a blank screen now until the gui starts up
[01:52] <Phaeyx> can anyone tell me if ubuntu runs good on a nokia n900?
[01:55] <Phaeyx> wanna kno, does ubuntu run well on a nokia N900?
[01:56] <phpguy> n0yd ok it is a lightdm and kdm conflict for some reason it is hanging and terminating lightdm with sigkill and that is where it is hanging. I remember installing kdm but I thought I had purged lightdm but even if I didn't there shouldn't be a conflict.
[01:59] <Phaeyx> anybody who knowz, does ubuntu run well on a nokia N900?
[01:59] <CyclicalReality> idk
[02:00] <Phaeyx> who does kno?
[02:01] <CyclicalReality> wow... loads of users... yet epicly quiet in here
[02:01] <corvaxia> I would check a Nokia N900 developer community
[02:01] <corvaxia> That seems like a more localized source for your information
[02:02] <corvaxia> Is it possible to have grub recognize three different operating systems on 3 different 128GB SSDs? Right now I am hot swapping SSDs on the top of my pc tower and I would like to put all three of them inside and just have grub choose which OS/SSD to boot at startup
[02:02] <hellslinger> hi guys, I have a question about permissions: I have an htdocs directory for apache that belongs to lampp:www, but I want it writable by my user. How do I achieve this without changing the owner of the directory?
[02:03] <somsip> hellslinger: add yourself to www group and log back in to make the changes take affect
[02:03] <Phaeyx> yup, checking if someone's responsive there, good tip!
[02:03] <CyclicalReality> hellslinger, i'm a noob, but i think I know the answer to your question. Add your user to the same group as lampp:www then change permissions to allow group members to write
[02:04] <CyclicalReality> shoot, i was too slow
[02:04] <hellslinger> ahh, had to log myself back in, thanks, CyclicalReality and somsip
[02:06] <hellslinger> anyone here running steam/l4d2?
[02:08] <HowdyDoody> When Upgrading ubuntu, I get questions to replace or keep a file.    Like   smb.conf ?    Very subtle differences.    If I don't know for sure is there a "SAFE" answer ?
[02:10] <Tex_Nick> HowdyDoody : backup your /etc/samba/smb.con file
[02:10] <Tex_Nick> smb.conf*
[02:11] <Tex_Nick> HowdyDoody : you could then replace and if needed restore the old one
[02:12] <HowdyDoody> ok - cp smb.conf smb.conf.114    good enough  or do I need to put in diff directory?
[02:13] <Tex_Nick> HowdyDoody : nope ... that should work fine
[02:13] <HowdyDoody> Great, thanks
[02:13] <Tex_Nick> you're welcome
[02:15] <taofd> where did the menu bar go in nautilus for gnome 3.6? :( how do i access my folder settings now?
[02:16] <acovrig> how do I change the default run level (/etc/inittab does not exist)
[02:17] <jrib> acovrig: why do you want to?
[02:17] <acovrig> jrib: my default run level is 2 and I want 5.
[02:17] <jrib> acovrig: yes, but why?
[02:17] <dr_willis> since ther really is no runlevels with upstart
[02:17] <Slart> !runlevel
[02:18] <dr_willis> level 5 will be identical to 2
[02:18] <acovrig> !Upstart
[02:18] <acovrig> then how do I startx by default?
[02:18] <jrib> acovrig: by default you have lightdm installed and it gets started automatically
[02:18] <dr_willis> acovrig:  lightdm service does that if its installed
[02:19] <dr_willis> this is why we were asking why you wanted runlevel 5 ;)
[02:19] <dr_willis> lightdm, gdm, kdm, other login managers haaandle that
[02:19] <taofd> anyone know how to access nautilus settings in gnome 3.6?
[02:20] <jrib> taofd: doesn't it have "preferences" in its menu somewhere?
[02:20] <acovrig> dr_willis: when I boot I only get a cli, I can then run startx, but how do I have this happen automatically?
[02:20] <jrib> acovrig: how did you install ubuntu?
[02:20] <Slart> taofd: open a regular nautilus window and check the global menu
[02:20] <dr_willis> acovrig:  innstall lightdm, gdm, or some other login manager
[02:21] <dr_willis> acovrig:  whis is a server install?
[02:21] <acovrig> jrib: if I remember server install, then decided to use it as a desktop as well so apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:21] <jrib> acovrig: what ubuntu version?
[02:21] <taofd> Slart: i'm using gnome3, i think the global menu thing is a unity specific concept
[02:21] <Slart> taofd: ah.. sorry.. missed that
[02:21] <dr_willis> taofd:  ive seens ways to use it with gnome3/shell   but never tried it
[02:22] <F3Speech> making some progress, some errors gone other appear :) wpa-supplicatnt[728]: Authentercation with aa:bb:cc:dd:ff timed out. Where should I look to debug this? thanks.
[02:22] <taofd> Slart: np, i'm honestly stumped lol i know they did a major overall in 3.6 for nautilus, but i assume there's still someway to access some of the settings… (hopefully)
[02:23] <dr_willis> F3Speech:  sounds like the router is not responding fast enough.
[02:23] <acovrig> jrib: 12.04 (I installed it in a guess vbox,then dd'd it to a physical system
[02:23] <jrib> acovrig: ubuntu-desktop should have pulled in lightdm.  Check if lightdm is installed
[02:23] <Slart> taofd: I run gnome with gnome shell on my laptop.. but I can't really remember if I changed the preferences from somewhere else..
[02:24] <dylan> having a little bit of a strange problem with 12.10
[02:24] <acovrig> jrib: also, how do I reset the network interfaces (to remove the vbox ones and enable the physical ones)
[02:24] <alcaprawn> what do i need to enable for apache2 to work with .cgi/php
[02:24] <dylan> When I plug in my headphones, the option appears in sound settings, but no sound is played
[02:24] <taofd> Slart: are you using the built in gnome-shell or the one from the gnome ppa?
[02:25] <acovrig> jrib: apt-get says lighted is the newest version.
[02:25] <Slart> taofd: on that computer I'm running archlinux with, I suppose, the regular/standard gnome shell
[02:25] <jrib> acovrig: so now you should figure out why it doesn't start.  Does it start ok if you run "sudo service lightdm start"?
[02:26] <acovrig> jrib: yes
[02:26] <jaehun> haroo~
[02:27] <dr_willis> acovrig:  check /etc/default/grub to be sure you are not using 'text' mode also
[02:27] <acovrig> jrib: should I run update-rc.d?
[02:27] <jrib> acovrig: no, update-rc.d wouldn't do much
[02:27] <dylan> Can anyone help me with my sound settings?  My headphones appear in sound settings, but no noise comes out of them
[02:27] <jaehun> acovrig: What's problem?
Setting to alas driver? apt-get install alsa*
[02:29] <dr_willis> apt-get with wildcards can get ... ozerzelous sin what it installs
[02:29] <taofd> Slart: this is what the new nautilus looks like in gnome 3.6 http://worldofgnome.org/uploads/2012/10/nautilus-700x437.png
[02:29] <Slart> taofd: ah.. yes, now I remember.. you click on the Files icon in the top bar.. or right click..
[02:30] <Slart> taofd: the one next to Activities
[02:30] <dylan> jaehun: http://pastebin.com/prhdmiE7
[02:30] <jaehun> dylan : u can not install libasound2
[02:30] <taofd> Slart: OH! Thanks, i completely missed it… i'm on a mac so two finger touch is kind of wonky in virtualbox
[02:31] <jaehun> i think apt-get install alsa-oss only installing to u
[02:31] <Slart> taofd: I just remembered that I had the same problem when I installed it.. took me a while to find it as well
[02:31] <dylan> jaehun: what does that mean?  It's a pretty fresh install
[02:31] <jaehun> I think?.
[02:31] <dylan> jaehun: So what do I do for a solution?
[02:32] <jaehun> 'apt-get install libesd0 libasound2 alsa-oss'
[02:32] <jaehun> alas application using to sound for ur headphone
[02:32] <dylan> jaehun: okay. it's running
[02:32] <dylan> jaehun: finished.  Now what, reboot?
[02:33] <jaehun> dylan : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting <--
[02:33] <jaehun> look at that plz.. :)
[02:34] <haryv> Ubunto is now #1 article in CNN News pulse. I remember long time ago, I used to work at Microsoft in the Windows dev team, and Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer came to the lunch meeting and gave there big pitch about the release of windows 2000. One of the tings Bill or Steve said "Linux is not a threat" I think I was the only one shaking my head :)
[02:35] <haryv> http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/02/technology/mobile/ubuntu-smartphone-linux/
[02:35] <jrib> haryv: that's great, but please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:35] <acovrig> jaehun: aside from booting into cli (lightdm not starting), how do I purge old network interfaces and detect new ones?
[02:35] <haryv> Np :)
[02:35] <dr_willis> ill belive it when i can get my hands on one....
[02:35] <Xabster> ~amazon
[02:36] <Xabster> Could someone trigger the bot response for amazon ads?
[02:36] <jrib> !adlens
[02:36] <dr_willis> acovrig:  shouldent be any need to,
[02:36] <dr_willis> acovrig:  ifconfig should list them all
[02:36] <evo-int-ano> does anyone want to run to the store for me and pick up some nose spray? jw
[02:36] <jaehun> acovrig,  hmm? r u wanna new network dhcp?
[02:36] <acovrig> dr_willis: it gets annoying to wait 60 seconds for network configuration on every boot though...
[02:37] <evo-int-ano> apt-get nosespray...
[02:37] <acovrig> jaehun: I installed in a xbox, then dd to a physical drive, so theres a new set of interfaces
[02:37] <dr_willis> acovrig:  sounds like you should have just done a clean install instead of  converting aa vbox image
[02:37] <charlie__> When Ubuntu does an automatic update, my box doesn't boot in the new kernel.The kernel that works is -23, and the 12.04 LTS updates are up to -35! I'm missing something...
[02:37] <jaehun> check the /etc/network/interface file.
[02:37] <dr_willis> acovrig:  you have removed any vbox guest addations?
[02:37] <Xabster> Who's Mark Shuttleworth and why are people listening to such a bullshit blog?
[02:37] <jaehun> cat /etc/network/interface
[02:38] <acovrig> dr_willis: yea, but I did a vbox install while waiting for the physical parts to arrive. I didn't install the vbox add ons.
[02:38] <jaehun> acevrig : If u not insert dhcp? u need edit interface file.
[02:38] <nearst> hi ubuntu fan
[02:39] <OerHeks> Xabter nice attitude
[02:39] <dr_willis> acovrig:  from what ive seen so far- sounds like its a very wonky install.
[02:39] <jaehun> acovrig, plz.. show to /etc/network/interfaces file.
[02:39] <jaehun> If u waana dhcp? blow example? same to make it.
[02:39] <jaehun> auto eth0
[02:39] <jaehun> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:39] <Xabster> OerHeks: thanks..?
[02:39] <acovrig> jaehun: /etc/network/interfaces has no reference to virbr0, but ifconfig shows it
[02:40] <jaehun> hm....
[02:40] <jaehun> It's virtual box?
[02:40] <dr_willis> virbr0 is if you have vbox server installed i thought..
[02:40] <OerHeks> Xabster, Mark Shuttleworth is the fouder of canonical/ubuntu
[02:40] <jaehun> acovrig, I think? u check this web page.
[02:40] <jaehun> http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
[02:40] <Xabster> okay, what about the 2nd part of the question?
[02:40] <dr_willis> i think i got a virbr0 here and this setup has never been  in a vbox. but it runs vbox
[02:41] <acovrig> dr_willis: its if u use the host-only interface. I heard something about /etc/udev/rules/.d, is there something about that?
[02:41] <nearst> why my ipw2200 is eth1
[02:41] <jaehun> acovrig, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/libvirt.html
[02:41] <jaehun> check it plz.. acovrig
[02:41] <dr_willis> acovrig:  must be somthing ive never used then
[02:41] <dr_willis> nearst:  what do you expect it to be?
[02:42] <acovrig> where does ifconfig get it's list of interfaces?
[02:42] <charlie__> When Ubuntu does an automatic update, my box doesn't boot in the new kernel.The kernel that works is -23, and the 12.04 LTS updates are up to -35! I'm missing something...
[02:42] <jaehun> acovrig, look at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#bridging
[02:42] <jaehun> u need bridge-utils
[02:42] <nearst> dr_willis, just wonder. hehe
[02:42] <jaehun> hmm? Z?z?z..
[02:43] <dr_willis> nearst:  wlan, or eth0 or other names. depends on the driver the wifi device is using
[02:43] <jaehun> ????? ?? ?????
[02:43] <Slart> gah.. sage.. after 194 minutes of compiling it just errors out with a "error 1"
[02:43] <jrib> Slart: why are you compiling :)
[02:43] <jaehun> Slart,  wow..
[02:43] <nearst> dr_willis, i prefer wlan1, bcoz my rt2800usb is wlan0
[02:43] <acovrig> jaehun: I don't need to bridge interfaces, just 'uninstall' old ones and 'install' new ones
[02:44] <nearst> Slart, try with make -j4
[02:44] <dr_willis> nearst:  different drivers  can use different names
[02:44] <F3Speech> dr_willis: sorry missed your comment before, turned off my qos to might be affecting it but while there got me thinking many duel banding isnt supported? so changed it back to 20Hz and testing now, thanks for reply
[02:44] <nearst> dr_willis, yeah. maybe.
[02:44] <acovrig> running /etc/init.d/networking restart is taking a while...
[02:44] <dr_willis> i dont recall a usb wifi dongle ever using  eth*
[02:44] <jaehun> yes...
[02:44] <Slart> jrib: because sage is a weird package.. they end up packaging everything.. so it's a huuge download every time they do an update.. it's actually easier to just update the source and just recompile the bits that changed.. when the compiling part works, that is =)
[02:44] <dr_willis> internal wifi cards i have seen use eth*
[02:44] <jaehun> acovrig,  and?
[02:44] <Slart> nearst: -j 4 ... will try
[02:44] <jaehun> nothing?
[02:45] <jrib> Slart: I just use the binaries
[02:45] <Slart> nearst: or.. -j4, sorry
[02:45] <nearst> Slart, -j4 just fine. depends on your processor core
[02:45] <Slart> jrib: mm.. I blame archlinux.. I have to keep versions matched with my work-laptop
[02:45] <acovrig> jaehun: why is it taking so long to restart networking?
[02:45] <F3Speech> acovrig: i have the same problem, but until im putting it down to have no eth0 connected?
[02:46] <jaehun> acovrig, I think? ur networks problem.. dhcp...
[02:46] <jaehun> Check the gateway...
[02:46] <jaehun> I will going launch? Have a good time.s..  :)
[02:46] <acovrig> F3Speech: I have a proper eth0, I get a DHCP address ok and can connect to the internet, however wlan0 doesn't show up in ifconfig, but virbr0 does and shouldn't
[02:46] <nearst> route -n
[02:47] <acovrig> can I have a verbose boot, yet have lightdm start?
[02:48] <nearst> acovrig, edit to verbose at grub
[02:49] <acovrig> and why does it hang at configuring network interfaces, then waiting 60 secs for network configuration on boot?
[02:51] <frontier> everytime I install software by apt-get, it seems that apt-get cannot resolve dependencies, it drives me crazy after installing ubuntu 12.10, why?
[02:52] <jrib> frontier: pastebin what you actually do and what actually happens
[02:52] <F3Speech> ip addr
[02:52] <nearst> frontier, try apt-get install --fix-missing
[02:52] <F3Speech> oopps :)
[02:52] <frontier> I tried it, but not work
[02:53] <nearst> frontier, try look the problem at /var/log/term.log
[02:54] <F3Speech> wlan0: no IPv6 routers present - id have have to force IPv4? or should it default to IPv4 if IPv6 fails
[02:54] <frontier> term.log: No such file or directory
[02:55] <nearst> frontier, sorry, /var/log/apt/term.log
[02:56] <frontier> too many logs, then what should i do?
[02:57] <nearst> look for the problem at dependencies :-|
[02:58] <frontier> oh, yeah, i found it, it seems that that the dependencies cannot be downloaded, error occoured when downloading:404
[02:59] <kuhrect> can anyone help me with something
[02:59] <Xabster> hehe
[02:59] <Tex_Nick>  kuhrect : ask your question
[02:59] <nearst> ouch
[02:59] <Xabster> talk about being vague
[03:00] <hellslinger> what happened to "blur windows" in compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:00] <dr_willis> theses extra compiz plugins in the repos hell
[03:00] <nearst> maybe your "blur" setting at compiz
[03:00] <frontier> should i change something in the sources.list file?
[03:00] <dr_willis> theses extra compiz plugins in the repos hellslinger
[03:01] <kuhrect> i installed something like this "sudo apt-get -y install opera"
[03:01] <kuhrect> where do i find it
[03:01] <dr_willis> kuhrect:  using unity you can tap the super key to get to the dasy then type in 'opera'
[03:01] <dr_willis> dash ;)
[03:02] <dr_willis> just 'op'  may show it...
[03:02] <nearst> whereis opera
[03:02] <dr_willis> or just run it from a terminal
[03:02] <Tex_Nick> hellslinger : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[03:02] <goddard> is their an Ubuntu nvidia head monitor status icon like in gnome shell?
[03:02] <goddard> heat*
[03:03] <hellslinger> haha, there we go, I thought I had lost my mind, couldn't find the plugins
[03:03] <dr_willis> goddard:  theres a lot of  extra indicator-applete for unity out there, askubuntu.com may have a list
[03:03] <REX_746> Hello! I'm a newbie. sorry for the novel of a question. does anyone have a solution?-  I have a newly custom-built cpu that I successfully loaded with Ubuntu 12.10 and upgraded to the latest kernel. The OS works great, no issues whatsoever with booting or connecting with the wireless network. However, I am still needing to set up the drivers for some of the components.
[03:03] <REX_746>  It has an ASUS P8z77-V PRO motherboard installed and I am trying to utilize the Setup.exe from the MB Support CD in order to access the exclusive features of the MB. Of course, this motherboard/Setup is only “Windows 7 ready”. I have downloaded the “Wine Windows Program Loader” which has helped me to access some files on the MB Support CD, but the Setup.exe is still having error.
[03:03] <REX_746>  By clicking on the Setup.exe (or dragging into the Terminal and hitting Enter) an error message comes up:
[03:03] <REX_746>  -AUSUHWIO.DLL-  ! :  “Can't Open Kernel Mode Driver ASUSHWIO.sys”
[03:03] <REX_746>  Clicking 'OK' :
[03:03] <FloodBot1> REX_746: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <nearst> !pastebin
[03:04] <goddard> dr_willis: doing a search doesn't give me any results
[03:04] <dr_willis> REX_746:  using wine to install special mb drivers may not work very well
[03:05] <kuhrect> how can you see all installed programs?
[03:05] <dr_willis> goddard:  try opera or Opera from the terminal. or use the dash search filters/catagories
[03:05] <nearst> im not use unity :( , aww
[03:07] <Tex_Nick> kuhrect : use the software center ... click on Installed at top of window
[03:07] <Xabster> Didn't there use to be a skype in the repos?
[03:07] <dr_willis> !skype
[03:07] <Xabster> !ekiga
[03:07] <dr_willis> its in the pertners repo? i forget
[03:07] <arch> can someone help me
[03:08] <dr_willis> arch:  Details needed.
[03:08] <Tex_Nick> arch : ask your question
[03:08] <arch> ok can someone make an account here http://not-so-mini.minitroopers.com/
[03:08] <arch> thanks
[03:09] <dr_willis> and how is that ubuntu support related?
[03:09] <arch> it isnt
[03:10] <Tazy> Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick PORTS archive? Where?
[03:11] <dylan> k
[03:11] <dylan> so
[03:11] <dr_willis> ports?
[03:11] <dylan> booted up the live CD
[03:11] <dylan> and the headphones work perfectly
[03:11] <dylan> so
[03:11] <goddard> dr_willis: sorry man i dont know what you mean
[03:11] <dylan> wrong channel
[03:11] <dylan> my bad
[03:11] <dr_willis> goddard:  about what? ;)
[03:12] <CoreyBR> i'm with scroll problem here in ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[03:13] <Tazy> dr_willis, ubuntu ports. i'm using a i.MX515 netbook.
[03:15] <dylan> Hey, i'm back
[03:15] <goddard> dr_willis: trying to find a nvidia heat monitor applet
[03:15] <acovrig> how do I 'remove' a network interface so that it doesn't show up in ifconfig or in /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:15] <dylan> I just booted up my liveCD to test the audio
[03:15] <dylan> and my headphones work on the liveCD
[03:16] <dylan> so now what should I do?
[03:16] <dylan> is there anyway to just un-install ALL of the audio stuff and re-install it?
[03:16] <HeKToN> guys I have a dekstop Pc and a lap top
[03:16] <HeKToN> when connecting samba
[03:16] <HeKToN> and trying to play some movies from my desktop it says something about smb protocol...
[03:17] <HeKToN> I click on search but nothung hapens
[03:17] <Tex_Nick> HeKToN : that is referring to samba
[03:17] <HeKToN> so what can i do about it ?
[03:17] <HeKToN> is there a channel ?
[03:18] <Tazy> so where did the old ubuntu ports got moved to? for maverick / 10.10 / used to be http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/
[03:18] <Tex_Nick> !samba | HeKToN
[03:18] <HeKToN> Thanks  :0
[03:18] <Tex_Nick> HeKToN : #samba
[03:20] <dr_willis> goddard:  the askubuntu.com site had a list of 3rd party indicator-applets i belive there were some nvidia ones
[03:21] <Tex_Nick> HeKToN : it might also be referring to "Server Message Block"
[03:21] <hellslinger> dr_willis, installing those packages didn't install blur windows, any ideas?
[03:22] <dr_willis> hellslinger:  nope.  could ask in #compiz   could be the plugin has been removed/renamed
[03:22] <HeKToN> hmm
[03:22] <hellslinger> dr_willis, , thank you
[03:22] <HeKToN> that makes a sense
[03:23] <HeKToN> I`ll do some research now
[03:23] <HeKToN> thanks a lot :)
[03:24] <Tex_Nick> HeKToN : samba employs SMB to implement network shares
[03:25] <F3Speech> whats the best command to shutdown a server with? halt, shoutdown, poweroff?
[03:26] <kslater> grrr. Update failed to run initramfs-tools
[03:26] <Tazy> F3Speech, shutdown -h number-time
[03:28] <dylan> Having trouble with my headphones in 12.10.  The speakers work.  But the headphone jack doesn't.  I've ruled out it being a hardware problem.  What can I do?A
[03:29] <nearst> dylan, buy a new one?
[03:29] <dylan> nearst: buy a new what. compuer?!?!
[03:29] <dylan> computer*
[03:30] <dylan> My headphones work, and the jack works.  It's a software issue
[03:30] <Tazy> dylan, define whats not working. mic output itself? did you check in terminal with alsamixer and see it in pavucontrol?
[03:30] <nearst> oic. try set using alsa-mixer?
[03:30] <dylan> Tazy: Nothing is muted in alsamixer, I tried setting it with alsa.  what is pavucontrol?
[03:31] <Tazy> pulse audio control panel
[03:31] <dylan> How do I access that?
[03:31] <nearst> pavucontrol in terminal
[03:31] <Tazy> probably install it first?
[03:31] <dylan> not installed, let me install it
[03:32] <dylan> Tazy: Okay, it's installed and open
[03:32] <kslater> on an upgrade initramfs-tools failed to configure as detailed in this launchpad bug:
[03:32] <kslater>    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/829581
[03:33] <kslater> can I just re-run the configuration step manually? I suspect it was because the /boot partition ran short of space.
[03:33] <Tazy> dylan, check the input setting there, maybe switch inputs once back and forth also in alsamixer you need to unmute maybe input and something.. audio is messy
[03:34] <dylan> why am I playing with inputs?
[03:35] <Tazy> dylan, dident you said mic input is not working? o.o
[03:36] <dylan> Tazy: no, headphone output is not working
[03:36] <Tazy> dylan, duh... so its showing up as devices tough in pavucontrol?
[03:36] <dylan> yes
[03:37] <dylan> I know the jack works
[03:37] <dylan> I tested it on a LiveCD 5 minutes ago
[03:37] <Tazy> dylan, then it should be as simple to just change uhm default device or for a single program to send to headphones/device
[03:37] <dylan> none of that is working
[03:39] <dylan> it wasworking a few days ago
[03:39] <alex285> how I can delete from terminal a ${folder} ?
[03:39] <alex285> and basically what are such folders?
[03:40] <dr_willis> alex285:   rm 'specialnames'
[03:40] <dr_willis> note the single quotes
[03:40] <somsip> alex285: rmdir folder (if empty) or rm -rf folder (if has contents you want to delete, but be careful as not reversable)
[03:40] <F3Speech> thanks Tazy , whats the differance between shutdown -H and -P ?
[03:40] <somsip> alex285: oh - like with spaces in the name?
[03:41] <dr_willis> ive never seen a folder named   ${somthing}  befor... sounds like a bash script messed up
[03:41] <alex285> dr_willis, that didnt remove it
[03:41] <Tazy> dylan just messing around with those settings in both apps might fix it somehow, i had my soundcard to work after i muted and unmuted it
[03:41] <dr_willis> whats the exact name?
[03:41] <dr_willis> and the exact command you used
[03:41] <Tazy> alex285, it might be possible to rm *blabla* instead of $blabla$ (use with caution)
[03:41] <alex285> dr_willis, ${prefix}
[03:41] <dfrey> Is there a known problem with sound cards right now?  I just rebooted my computer (a couple times) and my sound doesn't work anymore
[03:42] <alex285> thats is the exactly name
[03:42] <OerHeks> F3Speech,  -H     Requests that the system be halted after it has been brought down and   -P     Requests that the system be powered off after it has been brought down ( see man shutdown)
[03:42] <dr_willis> that a file or directory?
[03:42] <dylan> erm, the puslseaudo volume control has a little bar in the settings that shows you how loud te sound that is playing is.  that bar moves when stuff is playing
[03:42] <alex285> Tazy, thanx that did the trick!
[03:43] <alex285> dr_willis, was a directory
[03:43] <dr_willis> tab completion  might escape things also
[03:43] <F3Speech> OerHeks: Thats what I read but im unclear as to the difference of hald and power off, as i thought halt did power off?
[03:44] <OerHeks> F3Speech, nope, halt keeps the system on.
[03:44] <Tazy> F3Speech, shutdown --help  might give more info
[03:44] <F3Speech> OerHeks: can you still ssh in etc after the system is halted i would assume all services have been stopped
[03:45] <dylan> Tazy: Just checked everything, nothing is muted or anything.  I even toggled all the settings once or twice
[03:45] <F3Speech> OerHeks: im thining what would you want to halt and not reboot or shutdown?
[03:45] <acovrig> I think my boot hangs at waiting for network configuration because it is trying to bring up an interface that doesn't exist, how do I fix this?
[03:47] <OerHeks> F3Speech, halt was used before ACPI (which today will turn off the power for you)*. It would halt the system and then print a message to the effect of "it's ok to power off now"
[03:47] <dr_willis> acovrig:  or its an ipv6 issue. ;) it always gets blamed
[03:47] <kslater> before I decide to reboot (after having no success at all today with grub and booting), is there a way I can check to see if all of the packages the upgrade tried to install, have been installed without issue?
[03:47] <F3Speech> OerHeks:  ahhhhhhhhh, tyvm, that make alot of sense :)
[03:47] <kslater> I know it barfed on initramfs-tools before
[03:48] <kslater> maybe a way to list the installation status of all packages?
[03:49] <devnull_> hello
[03:50] <F3Speech> dr_willis: jfyi the problems i had with my wifi i believe was due to missing wpa_supplicant.conf and a small edit to my interfaces file to point to it outlined here http://blinker.net/2010/06/20/mac-mini-g4-homeserver-with-ubuntu-linux-10-04-wpa2/ but thank you for your help tonight.
[03:50] <kslater> this indicates that these two packages are installed properly?
[03:50] <kslater> kslater@kslater-laptop:/tmp$ dpkg --get-selections initramfs-*
[03:50] <kslater> initramfs-tools					install
[03:50] <kslater> initramfs-tools-bin				install
[03:50] <FloodBot1> kslater: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <devnull_> i have a new hp dv6-7013cl and i can't get my built in subwoofer to work .... i have snd-hda-intel loaded ... have tried different model= variables ... i can virtually get 6 channels but i still have no subwoofer
[03:50] <devnull_> i have already googled the crap out of this for about 20 hours
[03:50] <Tazy> dylan, you can still google for ppl with similar issue, i myself never had a usb headset. tough it might be crazy but there should be a .pulse folder in ~/  it fixed for me some issues as i deleted it (probably you want to just move this folder, and restart pulse / pkill pulse)
[03:51] <acovrig> dr_willis: I removed everything but lo in /etc/network/interfaces and now it works fine, but I still don't like virbr0 in ifconfig, yet if I ifconfig virbr0 down, it disappears, why is it up to begin with (and how do I stop that)?
[03:51] <devnull_> wondering if anyone has any ideas
[03:53] <Tazy> devnull_, similar issue with X-Fi here. you can google jackd with pulseaudio ubuntu. and then loop an input via qjackctrl to subwoofer. (i suspect a ubuntu bug)
[03:54] <devnull_> tazy .. that is an interesting way to do it ... i will check it out ... i think there is definately a bug
[03:54] <dylan> Tazy: I'm not seeing a .pulse folder
[03:54] <devnull_> damn beats audio
[03:55] <Tazy> dylan, folders with .at the beginning are hidden (prolly ctrl +h nows em)
[03:55] <dylan> idn't work
[03:55] <dylan> didn't*
[03:56] <Tazy> devnull_, if you have subwoofer after switching speakers on the same music track then its a bug.
[03:56] <dylan> Tazy: cntrl+h did nothing
[03:57] <devnull_> tazy .. i have no subwoofer at all atm  ... im wondering if the sub is like an internal usb or something
[03:57] <dylan> found it
[03:57] <Tazy> dylan, terminal: mv ~/.pulse ~/.pulse-old  (reverse to restore...)
[03:58] <dylan> Tazy: did nothing
[03:58] <Tazy> devnull_, anyhow you get better sound via jack and pulseaudio jack sink ;D plus you can use IDJC
[03:58] <machicola> anyone happen to know if there is a way that I can make 'k' & 'j' my up and down arrows in Ubuntus X windows
[03:59] <machicola> i mean, to do the same thing the up and down arrows do... scroll up or down
[03:59] <Tazy> dylan if you killed pulseaudio it should restart and recreate the folder. if the headset wont work then its some other bug..
[03:59] <dylan> Tazy: I'm getting off.  I'll take a look tomorrow.  Thank you very much for your help
[04:01] <Project2501> was going to ask how to view tx/rx for ip add similar to ifconfig but i found the ip -s link command
[04:01] <Project2501> <3
[04:07] <KyleYankan> Hey #ubuntu  - What filesystem is prefferred for a SSD? ext4?
[04:07] <dr_willis> KyleYankan:  ext4 ads far as i know
[04:07] <Tazy> JFS supports with kernel 3.7 also SDD's
[04:08] <Tazy> ssd* to correct myself
[04:09] <dr_willis> at least you dident say stds ;)
[04:09] <Tazy> dr_willis, thats why you gotta wear them latex all the time.
[04:10] <dr_willis> the ways ssd's are improveing. im not sure much tweaking of them is neven needed these days
[04:11] <Tazy> dr_willis,  there are some SSD's that perform only with NTFS kinda good due some on hardware software is doing some of the work and might screw with linux filesystems.
[04:11] <dr_willis> i need bigger ssds ;)
[04:12] <limac> hi it appears i have two version of openCV installed which is causing compilation problems due to conflicts. I have 2.3.1 and 2.4.3 and just wanna use the 2.4.3. Anyone know of an easy fix to this?
[04:14] <Jkessler> i have a friend who needs to connect to his secured wireless network in recovery mode because his xorg.conf is messed up.  i can't find a good set of commands to work.  we know can see his essid but we can't get  ...   iwconfig wlan0 essid HisNetwork HisKey       -- to work.  can't find syntax that works.  any ideas?  thanks
[04:14] <Tazy> Jkessler, uhh "nmcli"
[04:15] <devnull_> hey tazy ... im having some issues finding the resources for what you said to do with jack
[04:18] <Tazy> devnull_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875378 and http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/JACK
[04:18] <devnull_> thanks tazy
[04:18] <Matthe> Hello,
[04:19] <Matthe> I need some information about the difference between the latest version, and the older versions.
[04:19] <Tazy> devnull_, probably just requires to change /etc/pulse/default.pa and install qjackctrl (with deps)
[04:21] <Matthe> So, can someone send me like, a link or something, with the information?
[04:21] <jrib> !notes | Matthe
[04:22] <jrib> Matthe: in general, you should either go with the latest release (12.10) or with the latest LTS release (12.04).  The advantage of the LTS release is that it is supported for 5 years instead of the usual 18 months.  But 12.10 has newer features and newer software
[04:22] <OerHeks> and 12.04 LTS >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes
[04:22] <Tazy> LTS is a better choice. time wise.
[04:23] <Matthe> Well, I'm working on a project for school, and I need to have the exact information about the difference between, 12.10 and the rest.
[04:24] <jrib> Matthe: well, read the release notes.  Depending on how detailed you actually want to be, then you can diff the two images...
[04:24] <Matthe> The links helped, thanks (:
[04:25] <Matthe> I'll read it, and I'll come back for further questions.
[04:25] <Tazy> school project... here they still want them to learn with Win 98
[04:25] <Matthe> Haha.
[04:26] <davidhurwich> hello
[04:26] <davidhurwich> can i ask a tech support question>
[04:26] <davidhurwich> ?
[04:27] <ryzzan> my wifi connection keep failing all the time under ubuntu 12.04... any tip?
[04:27] <OerHeks> hi davidhurwich, just ask :-)
[04:27] <ryzzan> ?
[04:27] <davidhurwich> i'm running Ubuntu 12-04. my wifi never seems to show up. It used to appear under earlier versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[04:28] <Tazy> PC's with EFI bios won't have a issue with GRUB2/syslinux?
[04:28] <ryzzan> mine shows... but it fails after some time
[04:28] <kslater> ok, time to bite the bullet and try a reboot. Then one more upgrade to get to 12.04.1 LTS.
[04:30] <juniour> chrome is not godd forubuntu
[04:30] <zabomber> davidhuriwch: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966633
[04:30] <dr_willis> chrome works fine  here.
[04:30] <deltab> ryzzan: are there any log entries that relate to it?
[04:30] <kslater> I've had it absolutely crash the desktop before
[04:31] <kslater> maybe newer Ubuntu plays better with it?
[04:31] <dr_willis> ive seen flash crash the internet. ;)
[04:31] <juniour>  dr_willis its dosent work fine here
[04:31] <dr_willis> ok just my home pc...
[04:31] <juniour> 3:)
[04:32] <kslater> yeah, flash probably behind a lot of crashing
[04:32] <kslater> a flash crash
[04:32] <dr_willis> i rarely see people in here with chrome issues...   flash issues..  lots of them
[04:32] <juniour>  dr_willis ya you right
[04:32] <HeKToN> dr_willis what do you mean by flash issues ?
[04:33] <HeKToN> my youtube is kind of laggy while the menus are visible
[04:33] <HeKToN> like the timeline ?
[04:33] <juniour> chrome has flsh issue
[04:33] <ryzzan> deltab, not really... what log file u think i should take a look in this case/
[04:33] <HeKToN> im on firefox but ..
[04:33] <akheel> hey guys, I'm running on an AMD graphics card. Any way to install drivers to make gnome-shell run more smoothly? animation is really choppy right now
[04:33] <juniour> firefox rocks
[04:33] <dr_willis> HeKToN:  smurfy looking people, no sound, crashes, not detected..    webcams not working with it. wrong monitors and fullscreen issues....
[04:33] <ryzzan> deltab, i receive no warning or anything... the conenction simply fails... like the wifi is not connected to the internet
[04:34] <HeKToN> so I was basically scared that my lap top is crap
[04:34] <dr_willis> those are the common flash issues
[04:34] <HeKToN> but now you give me the feeling that it is the flash
[04:34] <HeKToN> otherwise the movies are excellent
[04:34] <dr_willis> id bet its flash the issue.
[04:34] <dr_willis> use a flash downloader, or replacer plugin ;)
[04:34] <Muphrid> just dont use flash whenever possible
[04:34] <Tazy> Smurf ppl are best issue and NVRM issues even more.
[04:34] <dr_willis> or both
[04:35] <akheel> I'm on 12.10 by the way
[04:35] <Muphrid> akheel: what gpu model?
[04:35] <HeKToN> can you give me exact command or whatever how to do that ?
[04:35] <HeKToN> plaese
[04:36] <juniour1>  dr_willis
[04:36] <Muphrid> HeKToN do what?
[04:36] <Tazy> speaking of, anyone knows whats NVRM Xid ? nvidia related but maybe RAM itself? instead of gfx
[04:36] <HeKToN> murphid : use a flash downloader, or replacer plugin ;
[04:37]  * kslater needs to find a proper driver for the sound hardware in his Thinkpad t61p.
[04:37] <davidhurwich> Hello, kind of a newbie here. I need some help with my wifi. I know how use terminal, but I'm not super tech knowledgable. can someone help me. My wifi network has not worked since upgrading to ubuntu 12-04. Any help would be most appreciated
[04:37] <Muphrid> HeKToN: go to userscripts.org and search for viewtube
[04:37] <Muphrid> that is for videos
[04:37] <HeKToN> thanks ;)
[04:37] <Muphrid> it has a downloader too
[04:37] <akheel> muphrid: how do I check?
[04:37] <juniour1> davidhurwich you getting the signal
[04:38] <davidhurwich> i used to get the signal. my network doesn't appear now
[04:38] <Tazy> davidhurwich, your network is set to hidden?
[04:38] <davidhurwich> i thought i've installed the necessary drivers for my wireless card
[04:39] <Muphrid> akheel: lspci -v | grep -A 10 radeon
[04:39] <davidhurwich> no, my wife's macbook is picking it up fine
[04:39] <Muphrid> or you could use HardInfo for a gui
[04:39] <juniour> davidhurwich connect via lan upgrade to additional drivers
[04:39] <davidhurwich> where do i find out which extra drivers i need?
[04:40] <Muphrid> davidhurwich: search for "software sources" app
[04:40] <Tazy> lsmod to see if the driver is even loaded..?
[04:40] <juniour> davidhurwich additional drivers type in search in unity
[04:40] <akheel> Muphrid: Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9902
[04:40] <Muphrid> that is audio
[04:41] <davidhurwich> would i findt he software sources app in the Ubuntu Software Center?
[04:41] <akheel> I see PCI bridge, but no graphics there
[04:41] <Muphrid> i think lspci alone will say, i dont know why i said -v
[04:41] <usr13> davidhurwich: jockey-gtk
[04:41] <juniour> davidhurwich just install the additional driver your issue will besolved
[04:42] <Muphrid> akheel: like this: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:42] <davidhurwich> but where do i find it?
[04:42] <davidhurwich> thats what I'm not sure about
[04:42] <usr13> davidhurwich: jockey-gtk
[04:42] <Emanon> usr13: Stop being vague.
[04:42] <juniour> davidhurwich click on dash home and type
[04:42] <Emanon> davidhurwich: just hit the windows key and type source
[04:43] <akheel> Muphrid: I don't see a display controller there
[04:43] <juniour> davidhurwich window key and type additional drivers
[04:43] <akheel> Is it possible it is not detecting it? I had to boot with nomodeset
[04:43] <davidhurwich> under Broadcom STA wireless Driver it says it is activated and currently in use
[04:43] <akheel> I'm running a Pavilion g6
[04:43] <OerHeks> Emanon, jockey-gtk is the driver tool in ubuntu
[04:43] <Muphrid> akheel: install hardinfo then
[04:43] <wanfu> akheel, what exact model of the g6?
[04:43] <davidhurwich> what should i do now?
[04:44] <akheel> wanfu: g6-2123us
[04:44] <Emanon> I'm aware OerHeks but no one was giving the poor guy complete instructions.
[04:44] <juniour> davidhurwich u sure its activated
[04:44] <davidhurwich> the dialogue box says it is
[04:44] <Emanon> They were giving data without context.
[04:44] <juniour> if not click on activate
[04:44] <Muphrid> AMD Radeon HD 7520G
[04:44] <Muphrid> ok that is your card
[04:44] <juniour> you seegreen button
[04:45] <Emanon> davidhurwich: Check if the wifi card has been deactivated via a hardware switch or keyboard hotkey.
[04:45] <usr13> davidhurwich: Run:  jockey-gtk    Alt-F2   or from terminal window.
[04:45] <akheel> any idea how to install a driver that doesn't give me 8 FPS on basic window operation?
[04:45] <akheel> I'm spoiled with nvidia drivers so this one is certainly new
[04:46] <ripthejacker> how do i add google repos to software sources?
[04:46] <davidhurwich> running jockey-gtk says that broadcast STA wireless driver is installed
[04:46] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  i recall when i installlled the google-chrome.deb it added them
[04:46] <davidhurwich> and it lists BCM versions
[04:46] <Emanon> akheel: I'm not sure if you're getting display issues but I've noticed my rated frame rate is quite a bit lower than my observed framerate when using Ubuntu and I think it is due to the compositioning window manager rather than poor driver support ymmv though.
[04:46] <davidhurwich> and ideas?
[04:47] <usr13> davidhurwich: You have a wireless card that you need to use?
[04:47] <juniour> davidhurwich update and upgrade and restart pc
[04:47] <Tazy> davidhurwich, as a last resort you could replace networkmanager with wicd
[04:47] <juniour> davidhurwich sudo aptget update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:47] <davidhurwich> update what? The dialogue box says the wireless driver is instaled
[04:48] <juniour> davidhurwich sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:48] <akheel> Emanon: I can barely view Youtube videos as well, so I know it's a graphics issue
[04:48] <akheel> the video skips every half second so I barely see animation
[04:48] <ripthejacker> dr_willis, i get this error when i try to install chrome
[04:48] <ripthejacker> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2035108
[04:48] <Emanon> Ok, as you were then I just noticed that on my system.
[04:48] <Hebbes> looking for help installing Ubuntu 12.10 on my Toshiba Satellite C855D-S5209
[04:49] <Hebbes> install hangs during the Ubuntu load screen
[04:49] <akheel> Ahh ok. I'm doing this for a friend of mine and I realized the lack of framerate. I think I've got everything else squared away
[04:49] <ripthejacker> Hebbes, you're installing from a cd or usb drive?
[04:49] <Hebbes> can anyone help me?
[04:50] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  id hit up google with that exact error message. seems the .deb is confused to me
[04:50] <Emanon> When I run an fps counter on Compiz I get an abysmally low rated fps but everything seems snappy from my perspective so I was just wondering if there was possibly some disparity. If you are getting actually bad graphical performance then that is a different story entirely.
[04:50] <Hebbes> Wubi DVD and liveUSB all do the same thing
[04:50] <ripthejacker> dr_willis, so can you tell me the google repos url
[04:50] <ripthejacker> i,m using quantal
[04:51] <dr_willis> ripthejacker:  im on my phone.. so cant look at mine.
[04:51] <ripthejacker> dr_willis, ok thanks
[04:51] <Hebbes> ripthejacker Wubi DVD and liveUSB all do the same thing
[04:51] <dr_willis> Hebbes:  whats your system specs and video chipset?
[04:52] <ripthejacker> Hebbes, yes i know and i dont know its the specific reason but my install used to fail from cd and i tried from usb and it worked the first time
[04:53] <SailorMoon> if i choose to use pre-release updates, if they are buggy, do they get fixexd?
[04:53] <Hebbes> rapthejacker none of the installs work,
[04:53] <Emanon> http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free and the key command is wget -q -O -- https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add - ripthejacker
[04:54] <davidhurwich> i ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and rebooted. Networks are still not showing up. Any suggestions?
[04:54] <Hebbes> dr_willis, processor is and AMD A6-4400M APU with Radeon HD Graphics
[04:54] <Hebbes> 2.7 GHz with 4 GB ram
[04:54] <HeKToN> lol
[04:57] <davidhurwich> Would configuring VPN help?
[04:57] <Guest27183> Hello everyone. =)
[04:57] <Guest27183> dr_willis: it's ivotkl here, somehow I cannot change nickcname
[04:58] <Guest27183> *nickname
[04:59] <juniour> davidhurwich check if wiifi is dissabled via any or button etc...
[04:59] <Tex_Nick> Guest27183 : /nick newNick
[04:59] <davidhurwich> no, wifi is turned on
[04:59] <davidhurwich> should i configure VPN, would that help. I must admit i don't know what that means
[05:00] <kslater> VPN is Virtual Private Networking
[05:00] <kslater> it rides on top of a network connection
[05:00] <kslater> doesn't really provide one per se
[05:00] <Guest27183> Tex_Nick: I know, but it won't let me. I'm ivotkl on ubuntu forums and here. Anyway, I went to xchat as appropriate channel would be that.
[05:00] <davidhurwich> i see
[05:01] <davidhurwich> any other suggestions that might help? Anything i can run via terminal to check?
[05:01] <davidhurwich> is there a way of adding my network from the edit connection>wireless section?
[05:02] <juniour>  davidhurwich the issue is that you r not getting signal
[05:02] <Tex_Nick> Guest27183 : looks like ... ivotkl :Nickname is already in use.
[05:03] <kslater> can someone /kick ivotkl?
[05:03] <ivotkl> why?
[05:03] <juniour>  davidhurwich if no signal nothin congiguration works
[05:03] <ivotkl> kslater: what did I do?
[05:03] <kslater> nothting
[05:03] <kslater> wasn't Guest27183 asserting that he's ivotkl
[05:03] <kslater> ?
[05:03] <ivotkl> Oh, to help me with my nick issue.
[05:03] <juniour> so first we have to figure out this signal problem so you get the signal
[05:04] <ivotkl> No, I was ivotkl and Guest. apparently there were 2 sessions logged.
[05:04] <davidhurwich> no, if i use my wife's macbook i get the signal no problem
[05:04] <devnull_> well if he is he can have the server ident him
[05:04] <ivotkl> !identify
[05:04] <kslater> !NickServ
[05:05] <troop> hello, it is not problem but my boot screen ( purple screen )  has gone after nvidia installation. and now i see text
[05:05] <HeKToN> !topic
[05:05] <ivotkl> There I've registered nick. XD
[05:05] <HeKToN> !help
[05:05] <HeKToN> !patience
[05:06] <liamliam> !patience
[05:06] <davidhurwich> so i can wifi signal in the room, just not on my laptop running ubuntu
[05:06] <juniour>  davidhurwich i know
[05:06] <devnull_> davidhurwich, your wifi isn't recognized in ubuntu ?
[05:06] <HeKToN> !
[05:07] <kslater> does Ubuntu have wireless-tools?
[05:07] <juniour> you have wifi but you are not getting signal on laptop
[05:07] <devnull_> kslater, what do you need to do
[05:07] <kslater> couldn't he use iwscan or similar to see if he's got a working interface?
[05:07] <davidhurwich> Ubuntu 12-04 cane find my wireless network - devnull_
[05:07] <devnull_> yes
[05:07] <ivotkl> davidhurwich: can you pastebin "lshw -C networking" (I believe that was the correct command)
[05:07] <kslater> I mean for davidhurwich's problem
[05:07] <ivotkl> davidhurwich: *can you pastebin "lshw -C networking" (I believe that was the correct command)?
[05:08] <kslater> My wifi works great
[05:08] <devnull_> davidhurwich, what security proto is your network using ?
[05:08] <davidhurwich> Ivotki - what info do you want from the the ishw command?
[05:09] <devnull_> maybe a wpa supplicant issue ?
[05:09]  * kslater off to reboot. Hopes to be back shortly.
[05:10] <davidhurwich> running lshw -C networking outputted no info
[05:11] <juniour>  davidhurwich lshw | grep "network"
[05:11] <juniour> try this
[05:13] <juniour> davidhurwich try this sudo lshw | grep -i "network"
[05:14] <davidhurwich> says network unclaimed
[05:14] <davidhurwich> description: network controller
[05:15] <devnull_> you can see your wiresless network in ubuntu ?
[05:16] <davidhurwich> no, no network shows up. It used to in earlier versions
[05:16] <devnull_> oh
[05:16] <devnull_> does netmanager show wireless enabled ?
[05:16] <grm> It seems that ubuntu 12.04 can't completely support computer with chip intel 420
[05:17] <davidhurwich> is there a way to check that?
[05:17] <davidhurwich> to grm
[05:17] <devnull_> what version of ubuntu ?
[05:17] <grm> my computer always  crash
[05:17] <davidhurwich> my net manger is set to "enable networking"
[05:17] <devnull_> grm what is intel 420 chip ?
[05:18] <devnull_> davidhurwich, okay ... and it doesn't say enable wireless  ?
[05:18] <davidhurwich> it says enable Networking, but my network does not come up
[05:18] <SailorMoon> His wireless driver needs loaded/installed
[05:19] <SailorMoon> I'm too new to assist with that, though.
[05:19] <grm> Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 420 @1.60GHz, my computer configuration.
[05:19] <tehwilder> lol420
[05:20] <devnull_> grm .... what you need to do is figure out what the other pieces of your system are using ... video, sound, etc and see if maybe there are better drivers for them
[05:20] <devnull_> davidhurwich, what version of ubuntu ?
[05:20] <davidhurwich> 12-04
[05:20] <HeKToN|sleep> !group
[05:20] <grm> thank, I will try.
[05:20] <SailorMoon> have david type that terminal command that will tell him/us the wireless devices name
[05:20] <devnull_> grm ... is it a laptop ?
[05:21] <grm> no, Desktop
[05:21] <devnull_> davidhurwich, lspci | grep -i network
[05:21] <devnull_> grm ... gotcha ... was it custom or a prebuilt model ?
[05:22] <davidhurwich> broadcom corp BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[05:22] <devnull_> oh
[05:22] <SailorMoon> Thats what i figured, thats what i installed just two hours ago, davidhurwich lol
[05:22] <devnull_> davidhurwich,  .... bcm53 or 54 i used to use with my hp laptop through ndiswrapper
[05:23] <devnull_> when i upgraded to 12.04 .... it stopped using ndsiwrapper ... the b43 module should work i think
[05:23] <davidhurwich> so, will my driver not work with 12-04?
[05:23] <grm> maybe not. I don't know.
[05:23] <abrandt> Anyone have issues with partitioned HDD running 12.04 and Win8?
[05:23] <devnull_> davidhurwich, im just guessing .. i had a similar card to yours ... i think it was like b43 or b3 or something like that
[05:24] <SailorMoon> its b43
[05:24] <devnull_> insmod b43   and see if your networking comes up
[05:24] <SailorMoon> i believe ubuntu has a way to use these drivers in the additional drivers section of that area where you pick package repos. i dunno what its called
[05:25] <devnull_> software sources ... will give you access to proprietary drivers ... but b43 is open
[05:25] <SailorMoon> it will be there
[05:25] <davidhurwich> how do i access software sources?
[05:25] <dr_willis>   12.10  software sources tool. has the addational drivers tab
[05:25] <devnull_> grm ... if there is a model number for your computer ... do a google search for .. your model and ubuntu x.x
[05:25] <kslater> woohoo! Reboot worked fine.
[05:25] <SailorMoon> oh, 12.04 doesnt have it, dr_willis?
[05:25] <kslater> On to 12.04.1 I guess
[05:25] <dr_willis> search for it via the dash
[05:26] <dr_willis> 12.04 has jockey-gtk
[05:26] <devnull_> davidhurwich,  it should be in system settings
[05:26] <devnull_> oh yes .. jockey
[05:26] <sarahr> hiya
[05:26] <dr_willis> or just apt-get install what you need
[05:26] <davidhurwich> no software sources
[05:26] <devnull_> grm ... it isi possible the issue you are having has already been taken care of
[05:26] <sarahr> This is probably the first time I've been on IRC in maybe…15 years?
[05:27] <devnull_> davidhurwich, do you have ubuntu software center ?
[05:27] <devnull_> sarahr :)
[05:27] <davidhurwich> yes
[05:27] <devnull_> davidhurwich, load it .. then i think it is like edit -> software sources
[05:27] <sarahr> geeing out on ubuntu brought me back
[05:27] <sarahr> "geeking"
[05:27] <devnull_> davidhurwich, though ... 12.04 might not have the tab for drivers
[05:27] <sarahr> is the channel just for support, or is this a place to nerd out, too?
[05:27] <dr_willis> 12
[05:28] <dr_willis> 12.04  run   jockey-gtk
[05:28] <devnull_> sarahr .... mostly support
[05:28] <somsip> !support | sarahr
[05:28] <sarahr> dev - where do ubuntu fans chat?
[05:28] <dr_willis> 12.10 find that tab...
[05:28] <davidhurwich> ok
[05:28] <somsip> sarahr: #ubuntu-offtopic for related but not support
[05:28] <sarahr> rad
[05:28] <devnull_> sarahr .. not sure ... there is probably offtopic channel
[05:28] <davidhurwich> I'm in software sources, now what?
[05:28] <sarahr> thanks!
[05:29] <devnull_> davidhurwich, from the menu ... edit -> software sources
[05:29] <Gnea> !nvidia
[05:29] <kslater> how does one go about adding stuff to 'status' bar at the top of the screen?
[05:29] <devnull_> davidhurwich, if that doesn't have a drivers tab ... do what dr_willis has explained with jockey-gtk
[05:29] <devnull_> kslater, unfortunately ... the applications have to be specificaly written now to be on that bar i believe
[05:29] <davidhurwich> i have a a ubuntu software, other software, updates, authentication, statsitics
[05:30] <devnull_> davidhurwich, okay you will need jockey-gtk then
[05:30] <davidhurwich> ran the command
[05:30] <kslater> devnull_: I used to have a status app that would show load factor, network traffic, cpu load and memory. Not available any longer?
[05:30] <davidhurwich> it opened additional drivers
[05:30] <devnull_> kslater ... it is annoying .. a lot of stuff that used to sit in the notification area no longer will
[05:30] <devnull_> kslater .. i have that ... i will give you the name .. hold on
[05:30] <davidhurwich> it says my broadcom STA wireless driver is activated
[05:31] <devnull_> indicator-multiload
[05:31] <devnull_> davidhurwich, okay .. well that is a step in the right direction
[05:31] <devnull_> davidhurwich ... ifconfig  ... does wlan0 show up ?
[05:32] <SailorMoon> davidhurwich: connect it to the internet using ethernet, and try sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[05:32] <devnull_> sailormoon ....... fantastic idea
[05:32] <juniour> kslater sudo apt-get install indicator-multiload
[05:32] <devnull_> kslater, there aren't as many indicator in the repos any more ... a lot of them have to be gotten from outside
[05:33] <grm> devnull_, i am sorry. 12.04LTS, and model might be Inter Corp.
[05:33] <SailorMoon> i use gnome classic, like a noob.
[05:33] <redengin> anyone know how to get bonding to work with netmanager for wlan nics?
[05:33] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com had a big list of indicator applets
[05:34] <grm> 32 bits
[05:34] <devnull_> i only use indicator-multi and indicator-cpufreq-selector
[05:34] <devnull_> grm ... are you still having crashing issues ? you can always check the logs to see what went wrong .. that might help pinpoint what needs to be adjusted
[05:35] <devnull_> ubuntu does what it can to match drivers but sometimes you need to change them
[05:36] <devnull_> or like me right now ... tyring to get my 5 speakers on my laptop working correctly ... odd driver issues
[05:36] <grm> devnull_, Yes, thank you. I try to download a new drives.
[05:37] <devnull_> cant get my subwoofer to work
[05:37] <kslater> devnull_: thanks for that. It's surprising how much I look at that thing during a normal day
[05:37] <devnull_> kslater, me too ... that was one of the first things i installed
[05:37] <SailorMoon> davidhurwich: still with us?
[05:37] <devnull_> for me it is because i got a new laptop so i want to see how it handles and how the load is
[05:38] <davidhurwich> sorry
[05:38] <davidhurwich> i uninstaleld the driver
[05:38] <davidhurwich> and reboot
[05:38] <davidhurwich> and now it seems to find the network. weird
[05:38] <devnull_> cool
[05:38] <kslater> maybe he should get sshd up and running and allow someone to have a closer look.
[05:38] <juniour> davidhurwich try this an tell output
[05:39] <juniour> iwlist wlan0 scan
[05:39] <devnull_> so if anyone has any ideas how to get my beats audio speakers under 4.1 profile in ubuntu 12.10 that would be great ... i have no subwoofer
[05:40] <davidhurwich> it spit out a lot, anything particular you want?
[05:40] <juniour> the above command scan the wifi in range
[05:40] <devnull_> that is good that it has output
[05:40] <juniour> yea
[05:41] <davidhurwich> ok, yeah it did
[05:41] <davidhurwich> maybe i had two drivers installed?
[05:41] <devnull_> some type of conflict ... or the wrong order
[05:41] <juniour> it means you car is reading the signal
[05:41] <davidhurwich> maybe thats why it didn't work until i uninstalled one
[05:41] <juniour> it means you card is reading the signal
[05:41] <kslater> devnull_: I actually like this one (indicator-multiload) better than the old version
[05:41] <kaeza> hello
[05:41] <devnull_> kslater, a lot more information in the drop down menu
[05:42] <juniour> davidhurwich try this
[05:42] <davidhurwich> thanks for everyone help, i really appreciate it
[05:42] <devnull_> kslater, if you have a cpu that changes frequency ... i suggest indicator-cpufreq-selector .. lets you adjust the governor
[05:42] <kaeza> I think I borked my ubuntu box
[05:42] <davidhurwich> no junior. i uninstalled my driver and now my network works :)
[05:42] <devnull_> kaeza what happened ? ... and how does that make you feel ?  :)
[05:42] <kslater> I have a dual core centrino
[05:42] <kaeza> I uninstalled Unity and now I can't boot
[05:42] <juniour> iwlist wlan0 scan | grep -i "ESSID"
[05:43] <kaeza> I have IceWM installed
[05:43] <devnull_> kaeza what do you mean by can't boot ... don't get to the GUI to login ... or it won't get past the bios ?
[05:43] <kaeza> how can I make Ubuntu use it?
[05:43] <kaeza> s/boot/login/
[05:43] <devnull_> if you can get to the login screen ... you should be able to change your session
[05:43] <devnull_> and pick your other windowmanager
[05:44] <davidhurwich> once again thanks to everyone for your help. I really appreciate it
[05:44] <longrun> hey guys need help with service iss-realsecure
[05:44] <longrun> hey guys need help with service iss-realsecure?
[05:44] <dr_willis> icewm is rather.. primitive these days
[05:44] <kaeza> it just says "falied lo run 'ubuntu'" or something like that
[05:44] <davidhurwich> just out of curiosity, what IRC chat clients do you use on ubuntu?
[05:44] <devnull_> davidhurwich, thats what everyone is here for :)
[05:44] <kaeza> and won't respond to keypresses
[05:44] <ibt> anyone know why I can't download 12.10? Tried all day today and it just gets a ways and hangs.
[05:44] <devnull_> kaeza .... so the login screen doesn't come up ?
[05:44] <kaeza> nope
[05:44] <HeKToN|sleep> morphis,
[05:45] <HeKToN|sleep> morphid
[05:45] <kaeza> I'm scrwd right?
[05:45] <devnull_> kaeza .. maybe you need to install GDM .. or what ever they are using now
[05:45] <longrun> service iss-realsecure opens tcp port.. how do i close it
[05:45] <devnull_> kaeza ... i don't think so
[05:45] <longrun> >
[05:45] <kslater> how well do these later version handle multiple monitors? I guess I'm going to have to find out tomorrow morning
[05:45] <juniour> davidhurwich :)
[05:45] <HeKToN|sleep> Muphrid, I found the scripts for the youtube flashplayer stuff but I have no idea how to install such a things yet
[05:45] <devnull_> kslater, haven't gotten to really test my hdmi output .. but it seems to handle it pretty well .... works better with the proprietary ATI fglrx drivers though
[05:46] <kaeza> devnull_: may I PM?
[05:46] <devnull_> kaeza, sure
[05:46] <Muphrid> HeKToN|sleep: just give me the link and i guide you
[05:46] <longrun> service iss-realsecure opens tcp port.. how do i close it???
[05:46] <kslater> devnull_: I'm using an nvidia setup
[05:46] <kslater> it worked pretty well in the past. I'll just hope it's at least as good now.
[05:46] <bazhang> !repeat | longrun
[05:46] <devnull_> kslater, as far as i know ... nvidias drivers and the open ones work pretty dang good .. so i would imagine you will be fine
[05:46] <longrun> service iss-realsecure opens tcp port.. how do i close it?
[05:46] <HeKToN> http://userscripts.org/tags/viewtube
[05:46] <devnull_> kslater, but it depends ... how you are setting it up
[05:47] <bazhang> longrun, thats enough. stop asking every five seconds
[05:47] <longrun> service iss-realsecure not listed in ps -aux but opens tcp port.. how do i close it?
[05:47] <HeKToN> adan0s,
[05:47] <HeKToN> sorry
[05:47] <devnull_> longrun ... is the port listed in /etc/services
[05:48] <longrun> i ran an nmap scan on my own machine and found it open..
[05:48] <kslater> devnull_: What I used to have (at work before my current health problems demoted me to a contractor), was 2 monitors plugged into my docking station for my laptop.
[05:48] <Muphrid> HeKToN: what browser are you using?
[05:48] <HeKToN> firefox
[05:48] <Muphrid> HeKToN: install the greasemonkey addon
[05:48] <HeKToN> thanks
[05:49] <Saik> hello everyone. I need to know how to fix a connection issue from a VM online. I can access certain things on the machine from my pc, but not everyting as it would if I was using my localhost
[05:49] <kslater> The laptop wouldn't automagically switch, but I had a quick script I ran to switch between the laptop LCD and the two external monitors. It was manual and a pain, but it worked well.
[05:49] <devnull_> kslater, i think you will be fine
[05:49] <kslater> ideally, it would notice that it was in the docking station and just flip to the external monitors.
[05:50] <kslater> there was/is a udev event for the docking and undocking events
[05:50] <kslater> anyway, for another time.
[05:50] <Guest85742> hi
[05:50] <rsv> What svn gui client is best in ubuntu
[05:50] <eos_> hi everybody! I have segmentation fault on gimp .... ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, gimp from rep
[05:50] <eos_> anyone with the same problem? anyone who knows how to solve?
[05:51] <Guest85742> I have more question about ubuntu server secure some one can help me
[05:51] <bazhang> Guest85742, try #ubuntu-server
[05:51] <kslater> I'm still getting used to Unity
[05:51] <kslater> I don't hate it, but I'm not sold on it yet either
[05:52] <dr_willis> it works well for me.
[05:52] <devnull_> kslater, took me like a few days and i got used to it .... i had it turned off till i upgraded to 12.10
[05:52] <bazhang> rsv, there is no best, check the package manager and choose which suits the most
[05:52] <devnull_> if you get your notification area together and use compiz to give yourself some quick bindings to things you will get used to it fast
[05:52] <AlcariTheMad> so i've got an openvz-based ubuntu 11.04 vm, and `init` is currently using 80-90% of the cpu; due to the fact that it's openvz (i think), i can't do `strace -p 1` to find out what it's doing, and can't think of any reason it might usefully be using that much processor time
[05:52] <eos_> does gimp work for everybody?
[05:52] <AlcariTheMad> any ideas?
[05:53] <kslater> where is it that I turn on extra effects? Used to be in Appearance I thought.
[05:53] <rsv> bazhang:  i dont know how to check in package manager
[05:53] <longrun> service iss-realsecure not listed in ps -aux, /etc/services. but opens tcp port.. how do i close it?
[05:53] <bazhang> eos_, give more details.
[05:53] <rsv> where can i find it
[05:53] <dr_willis> eos_:  gimp has worked for years....
[05:53] <ibt> anyone attempted to d/l 12.10 lately? Been trying all day and d/l's freeze every time
[05:53] <bazhang> rsv apt-cache search svn
[05:53] <dr_willis> ibt:  try the torrents?
[05:54] <Guest85742> Jan  1 10:51:32 : rajesh : user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/0 ;PWD=/var/www/vhosts ;USER=root ; > COMMAND=/usr/bin/id
[05:54] <devnull_> ibt ... try a torrent download
[05:54] <ibt> dr_willis: any particular torrent you can recommend?
[05:54] <bazhang> ibt, at www.ubuntu.com ?
[05:54] <bazhang> !torrents | ibt
[05:54] <devnull_> longrun, alright ... for the last time ... is that port listed in /etc/services
[05:54] <ibt> yeah no love at ubuntu.com
[05:54] <ibt> will try the torrent, thanks
[05:54] <Muphrid> HeKToN: got it?
[05:54] <Guest85742> I am receiving emails from server like user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/0 ;PWD=/var/www/vhosts ;USER=root ; > COMMAND=/usr/bin/id some one can tel me what this mean
[05:55] <kslater> uh oh, need to find a spotify-client too.
[05:56] <longrun> port not listed. that service not installed in my machine but still the nmap scan on my own machine shows tcp port openen with iss-realsecure service
[05:56] <devnull_> what port number
[05:56] <bazhang> longrun, you need to answer the questions asked you. stop just repeating that again and again
[05:56] <longrun> port 902
[05:57] <Saik> hello everyone. I need to know how to fix a connection issue from "VMWare player" to broadcast online. I can access certain things on the machine from my pc, but not everyting as it would if I was using my localhost
[05:57] <ibt> ubottu: many thanks for the torrent links. seems to be working like a champ :-)
[05:58] <ibt> lol
[05:58] <devnull_> lol
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[05:58] <devnull_> longrun,  im checking
[05:58] <OerHeks> longrun, port 902 could be used by vmware server too
[06:00] <prishabh> awesome - http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
[06:01] <john123456> does anyone know why terraform-blue and orange removed from gnome-backgrounds?
[06:01] <Muphrid> prishabh: it was a buzz this afternoon
[06:01] <devnull_> prishabh, awesome
[06:01] <longrun> but why is iss-realsecure detected. that is an IDS for complex systems, atleast not for a home pc
[06:01] <devnull_> longrun, why are you assuming it is iss-realsecure ?
[06:03] <longrun> that service is detected as so... found it to be vmware only.. thanks for the help.. killed all vmware processes and its gone.. thanks to everyone
[06:03] <devnull_> cool
[06:04] <devnull_> and understand that a localhost scan will possibly return more ports than are available from the outside
[06:04] <maqr> how can i do an 'upgrade' while omitting any packages that would require a reboot?
[06:04] <longrun> i know. so i ran the full scan. i mean through wan
[06:04] <devnull_> longrun, okay cool
[06:04] <OerHeks> longrun, any port can be used by more than one service > http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=902
[06:04] <maqr> i didn't do a dist-upgrade, but it still wants to upgrade 'linux-base' and 'linux-image-*', both of which are flagged reboot-required
[06:05] <longrun> yep. got it.
[06:05] <devnull_> maqr ... why would you want to do this
[06:05] <devnull_> maqr ... you can update all you want ... until you reboot those specific changes will not go into effect
[06:06] <maqr> devnull_: i'm deploying an instance on ec2, and i want the latest packages, but i will never reboot the instance, so there's no point in letting anything with reboot-required update
[06:06] <troop> hello, it is not problem but my boot screen ( purple screen )  has gone after nvidia installation. and now i see text
[06:06] <devnull_> i still don't understand
[06:06] <devnull_> maqr .. im not sure if the reboot is required to finish the update .. or just to bring you into the new kernel
[06:07] <devnull_> maqr ..  you are making an image ?
[06:07] <maqr> devnull_: /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs lists "linux-image-3.7.0-7-generic" and "linux-base" as the packages that triggered it, but i don't know why 'aptitude -y -q upgrade' would ever cause those packages to upgrade... that sounds like something dist-upgrade would do
[06:08] <maqr> devnull_: nope, i'm using 13.04 from here http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[06:08] <devnull_> maqr ... they treat the kernel like any other piece of software ... when there is an update you get it
[06:08] <devnull_> maqr ... gotcha
[06:08] <devnull_> not sure how that cloud stuff works
[06:09] <maqr> devnull_: well, if there was a switch for aptitude that said "omit all packages tagged reboot-required", that would be ideal
[06:09] <devnull_> it still doesn't make sense to do that
[06:09] <devnull_> do you not want the latest kernel ?
[06:09] <maqr> devnull_: i don't mind having it, but i can't reboot to get it
[06:09] <longrun> check http://www.ksplice.com/ for updating kernel without reboot
[06:09] <devnull_> maqr .... well it will install the new one ... it will be available
[06:10] <dr_willis> what a strange requirement. ;)
[06:10] <devnull_> i would imagine once that image gets booted it will have the new kernel
[06:10] <maqr> longrun: neat that it can be done, totally not what i need though :P
[06:11] <nextblove> hello want to format my flash drive how could i do
[06:11] <maqr> devnull_: it boots, then i run aptitude update/upgrade, then i ssh in and it tells me reboot required... so i'm assuming it's on the old kernel, which is fine too
[06:11] <devnull_> maqr .. yes
[06:11] <maqr> devnull_: i guess i'll just leave it, it's not going to hurt anything
[06:11] <maqr> other than a silly message when i ssh in :P
[06:11] <devnull_> but once that image does boot .. it should be on the new kernel
[06:12] <maqr> it'll never boot :P
[06:12] <devnull_> im not sure how that actually works though ... it just boots an image ? does the image not have files that change in it
[06:12] <devnull_> oh ... i think i get it now .... yea ... you will just constantly get that message about rebooting
[06:12] <maqr> devnull_: it loads the image from something called an 'ami', Amazon Machine Image, which gives you pretty stock working ubuntu install... then you fill in something called 'user-data' which runs through 'cloud-init' (also an ubuntu initiative), which essentially runs any shell scripts or whatever that you'd want
[06:13] <devnull_> okay
[06:13] <maqr> devnull_: in my case, the first thing my cloud-init script does is a system update/upgrade, which is leaving me with this silly message about rebooting :)
[06:13] <devnull_> btw you can omit those packages
[06:13] <longrun> nothing will truly upgrade or update without rebooting or restarting... the old version runs as long as that service restarted/rebooted..
[06:14] <longrun> once after reboot/restart, then only the new versions starts working
[06:14] <maqr> i suppose i could just null out the /var/run/reboot-required stuff
[06:14] <devnull_> you can just mask them i think
[06:14] <hendry> i can't find "System settings" on my Ubuntu 12.04 install. could I have uninstalled it?
[06:14] <maqr> longrun: ok, as long as i'm not in some half-way state, it's all goo
[06:14] <maqr> *good
[06:14] <noiro> hey guys. Any idea how to make an .sh on an external harddrive executable?
[06:14] <excervo> hello guys, how do i disable unity on ubuntu 12.10?
[06:15] <noiro> When I try to make it executable, it unchecks the option again
[06:15] <devnull_> noiri ..chmod +x blash.sh
[06:15] <ezrafree> anyone know what i could try to look at to resolve this... my ubuntu box is stopping the bootup process after it says "checking battery state..."
[06:15] <maqr> noiro: what type of file system is it?
[06:15] <dr_willis> excervo:  install and use a different desktop is one way
[06:15] <devnull_> ezrafree, might be a apci  problem ? ... not sure about that though
[06:16] <devnull_> hendry .. i don't think so
[06:16] <noiro> maqr: it's a simple sh file. devnull: it doesn't work
[06:16] <ezrafree> devnull_: googling it pulls some ubuntu forums that seem to imply it might be a graphics driver problem but i have an intel card, so i don't think there's a way to reinstall the drivers (or rather, there are no drivers really)
[06:16] <devnull_> hendry ... gnome-control-center
[06:17] <maqr> noiro: i mean the file system of the disk, 'df' will show you
[06:17] <devnull_> noiri .... sudo chmod +x script.sh
[06:17] <noiro> maqr: ntsf
[06:17] <noiro> It's a shared partition between my linux and windows partition
[06:17] <dr_willis> you dont chmod stuff on ntfs or vfaat
[06:17] <devnull_> ezrafree, have you tried booting it in recovery or something ?
[06:17] <maqr> noiro: i think that's your problem, but i don't know what you're supposed to do about it :P
[06:17] <devnull_> noiro .. is it ntfs ?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sh foo.sh  or bash foo.sh
[06:17] <maqr> noiro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition related probably
[06:18] <ezrafree> where would be a good log file to look in?
[06:18] <dr_willis> or mount the whold fs executable
[06:18] <devnull_> ezrafree, dmesg
[06:18] <hendry> devnull_: what can't dash find these basic things?
[06:18] <noiro> I dont' really need any protection on the partition, I just want all access to it
[06:18] <ezrafree> devnull_: no, i haven't tried that yet. actually i don't know how to get into recovery mode but i will google it
[06:18] <ezrafree> devnill: thx ill check dmesg too
[06:18] <devnull_> hold LEFT SHIFT at boot
[06:18] <devnull_> will give you grub menu
[06:18] <dr_willis> its annoying when every file is executable on vfat/ntfs
[06:19] <devnull_> hendry,    open a terminal and type in gnome- control  and hit tab and see if it is listed
[06:19] <devnull_> hendry, sorry .... gnome-con  and hit tab
[06:20] <Mattheww> Any pro with kubuntu 12.10 atm?
[06:20] <devnull_> im on 12.10 ... don't know if the system settings is a different named app on 12.04
[06:20] <maqr> devnull_: is there a convenient way to prevent all 'linux-base' and 'linux-image-*' from updating? because this actually is going to drive me crazy :P
[06:20] <devnull_> maqr ... yes i believe there is .... i think it is called "masking"
[06:20] <maqr> hmm, i don't see any docs about it
[06:21] <devnull_> maqr .... Pinning maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:21] <AlcariTheMad> now, i generally don't insult entire channels, but this is the least-helpful linux distribution channel i think i've ever been in
[06:21] <bazhang> dencrypt, maqr its pinning. not really something you want to do with kernels
[06:21] <bazhang> devnull_, ^
[06:21] <bazhang> sorry dencrypt
[06:21] <devnull_> maqr ... or "holding"
[06:21] <maqr> ah
[06:21] <bazhang> !pinning | maqr devnull_
[06:22] <witeshark> http://askubuntu.com/questions/225655/webcam-doesnt-work-in-ubuntu-12-10
[06:22] <nextblove> #centos
[06:22] <maqr> ubottu: does it support wildcards?
[06:22] <maqr> oh, right
[06:22] <devnull_> maqr i think you want "holding" ... will hold it at current version
[06:22] <witeshark> is there a 12.10 web cam issue?
[06:22] <devnull_> witeshark ... depends on your cam and setup
[06:22] <maqr> devnull_: that's definitely what i want, but i'd have to make sure it's always linux-image-3.7.0-7-generic, i'd rather it supported a wildcard... i guess i can script it
[06:23] <devnull_> my built in one works fine in 12.10 ... but it is a new laptop
[06:23] <bazhang> devnull_, its pinning, not holding.
[06:23] <devnull_> maqr .. well if you aren't updating the linux-image ... it shouldn't have a need to get the other support packages for the kernel .. like headers
[06:23] <witeshark> devnull_, dell 1545
[06:23] <maqr> devnull_: oh, i'll try pinning just that one and see what happens then
[06:23] <devnull_> bazhang, the doc calls it Holding Packages
[06:24] <devnull_> pinning is more specific to the distro it seems
[06:24] <devnull_> holding locks the version of the software
[06:24] <devnull_> witeshark ... did you google "webcam problem in 12.10 dell 1545" ?
[06:24] <maqr> devnull_: it doesn't like me trying to hold linux-base, it's probably some meta/pseudo/whatever package
[06:25] <tobe_> hello
[06:25] <devnull_> witeshark, if you can find out what device that your webcam is .. is it internal? external ?
[06:25] <witeshark> devnull_, yes, now i have thanks
[06:25] <witeshark> night all
[06:25] <tobe_> i have a small annoying issue.  my mouse moves past my screen to the right. is there a way to fix this? plz help
[06:25] <devnull_> maqr ... that is possible ... i think bazhang  might know more about it ... im just reading the doc
[06:25] <sgo11> hi, I am using gnome3. installed indicator-cpufreq. how to enable it in gnome? when I execute the command "indicator-cpufreq". nothing happens. thanks.
[06:26] <devnull_> tobe_, turn off dual output
[06:26] <devnull_> sgo11, indicator-cpufreq-selector is the package you need for the notification area
[06:26] <tobe_> devnull_:  oh man... but i use an external screen because my laptop screen is cracked...
[06:26] <maqr> devnull_: you've got me going in the right direction, ty :)
[06:27] <devnull_> tobe_, go into display settings and make sure it is only using one of your screens
[06:27] <sgo11> devnull_, thanks a lot. I will install that one. does it mean indicator-cpufreq is for unity only?
[06:27] <devnull_> maqr ... no probe .. and thanks bazhang
[06:27] <devnull_> sgo11, no ... indicator-cpufreq is just like the backside of it i believe ... the actual indicator application is the -selector one .. i am in unity
[06:28] <nextblove> hello anyone can help me to format my flash drive please
[06:28] <devnull_> nextblove, format it to what ?
[06:28] <nextblove> in command line
[06:28] <bazhang> nextblove, use the disks application to do so
[06:28] <tobe_> devnull_:  wow i feel dumb now. i see the on off button everytime but its not really labeled... thanks
[06:28] <devnull_> nextblove, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22381/how-to-format-a-usb-flash-drive
[06:28] <nextblove> i said i want to format my flash drive in command line
[06:28] <devnull_> oh okay
[06:29] <sgo11> devnull_, with apt-cache search, I only can see "indicator-cpufreq". where is that selector package? if that is not in default repo, why does the default repo have indicator-cpufreq? weird.
[06:29] <devnull_> sgo11, let me check ... what version of ubuntu ?
[06:29] <sgo11> devnill, 12.04
[06:29] <Guest59790> My rhythm box stopped playing last.fm any idea
[06:29] <devnull_> nextblove, that link has a command line way of doing it
[06:30] <sgo11> devnull_, ubuntu 12.04
[06:30] <devnull_> ok
[06:31] <b3nj> hi need help
[06:31] <kaeza> back
[06:31] <devnull_> sgo11, hehe ... let me remember how i got it
[06:32] <b3nj> ubuntu does not boot showing black screen
[06:32] <Guest59790> By speed playing I mean none of the stations I make will play also I can go to the suite and the stations play just fine.
[06:32] <devnull_> sgo11, from the command line do ... indicator-cpufreq  and hit tab
[06:32] <kaeza> devnull_: I was able to start IceWM, but forgot to ask how to connect to internet from command line
[06:32] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | b3nj
[06:32] <devnull_> kaeza, im glad you got in
[06:32] <devnull_> kaeza, wireless ?
[06:32] <kaeza> yes
[06:33] <sgo11> devnull_, yeah, that command is installed already... I got exception: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.75" is not allowed
[06:33] <devnull_> you might want to see if icewm has a network manager app
[06:33] <devnull_> sgo11, is indicator-cpufreq-selector installed ?
[06:33] <b3nj> OerHeks
[06:34] <kaeza> devnull_: I looked all around the menus and found none
[06:34] <sgo11> devnull_, I just apt-get install indicator-cpufreq. indicator-cpufreq-selector is just a command.
[06:34] <devnull_> kaeza, how are you chatting right now ?
[06:34] <b3nj> OerHeks
[06:34] <kaeza> from Puppy Linux
[06:34] <devnull_> sgo11, did you just install it and haven't rebooted ?
[06:35] <Guest59790> Wow puppy Linux in the house.
[06:35] <devnull_> sgo11, try logging out and back in .. that app would not load for me till i had rebooted
[06:35] <sgo11> devnull_, that's correct. I thought linux world didn't require reboot. that is windows world thing.
[06:35] <kaeza> on Puppy I  use wvdial
[06:35] <devnull_> sgo11, not all the time
[06:35] <devnull_> sgo11, usually a login and out will do it ... force X to reload
[06:35] <OerHeks> b3nj, just ask
[06:35] <sgo11> devnull_, ok. ^_^ let me reboot... I have to reopen everything again. what a pity...
[06:36] <b3nj> OerHeks, in grub i chose advanced options and ubuntu booted normally
[06:37] <OerHeks> b3nj, what 'advanced option' ?
[06:37] <Guest59790> Any thought on rhythmbox not playing last.fm
[06:37] <devnull_> sgo11 .. just login and out first
[06:37] <devnull_> ah dang he left
[06:38] <devnull_> Guest59790, not at the moment
[06:39] <b3nj> OerHeks, grub does not show up again
[06:39] <Guest59790> devnull: okay thank you.
[06:39] <OerHeks> b3nj, there are no advanced options besides recovery , previous kernels and memtest
[06:40] <b3nj> OerHeks, advanced options for ubuntu
[06:41] <devnull_> Guest59790, what version of ubuntu ?
[06:41] <Guest59790> Devnull: 12.04 x64
[06:42] <b3nj> OerHeks, when i choose advanced options for ubuntu i see ubuntu, with linux 3.5.0-21-generic, same as previous (recovery mode), ubuntu with linux 3.5.0-17-generic and same as previous (recovery mode)
[06:43] <devnull_> Guest59790, try disabling the plugin .. closing rhythmbox ... reopen and reenable the plugin
[06:43] <Guest59790> That did not help.
[06:44] <sgo11> devnull_, first, indicator-cpufreq-selector still gives me that error. but I just realized indicator-cpufreq is running at the bottom-right bar in gnome3. then I installed indicator-multiload, it's running at bottom-right bar as well. that bar is hidden in gnome3. very weird. I don't know how to call that bar. task bar? what I want is some applets/indicator in the top-right bar. how to do that in gnome3? thanks.
[06:44] <b3nj> OerHeks, so when i choose ubuntu 3.5.0 generic it boots alright
[06:45] <dr_willis> sgo11:  checked the gnome-shell extensions web site? it has many for the top bar
[06:45] <eos_> dr_willis: yes, gimp has always worked for me but after the last couple of updates it does not anymore .... I get a seg fault when I try to open or save any picture
[06:45] <devnull_> sgo11, i am using unity ... there is no bottom bar .. everything is in the upper right ... you have a "notification are" applet in your bottom panel ... if you remove it it might start using the correct spot .. if not try middle clicking on what you want and move it
[06:46] <sgo11> dr_willis, got it. let me see. thanks a lot. the two indicators are for unity only then.
[06:46] <tuxtoti> I created a new user this way : sudo useradd foo -m -s /bin/bash  . Also set the passwd : sudo passwd foo.
[06:46] <b3nj> OerHeks, so what do I do?
[06:47] <sgo11> devnull_, sure. I think I will remove the two indicators and check gnome3 extensions suggested by dr_willis. thanks.
[06:47] <tuxtoti> now if i do a : su foo  and enter the password, the base directory is not /home/foo.
[06:47] <dr_willis> tuxtoti:  adduser command may be easier to use
[06:47] <tuxtoti> though /home/foo still exists.
[06:47] <tuxtoti> dr_willis: ok.
[06:47] <ominomi> hmm..
[06:47] <dr_willis> ive never used useradd i ;)
[06:47] <devnull_> VPN in kubuntu 12.10 ... does that require openssl libraries for the certificate or should that lib be installed already ?
[06:48] <eos_> dr_willis: yet, if I run it as root, it works
[06:48] <WeThePeople> do i need to configure lampp before start?
[06:48] <devnull_> WeThePeople, before starting what
[06:48] <dr_willis> eos_:  try as a newly made user. if a new user works.. sounds like a app config issue
[06:49] <WeThePeople> devnull, lampp
[06:49] <WeThePeople> devnull_, lampp
[06:49] <devnull_> WeThePeople, no i mean ... before starting what ... lampp is just an acronym
[06:49] <dr_willis> eos_:  ive also seen where running stuff as root can cause  config files in the users home to get made/owned by root which can goof things up
[06:49] <eos_> dr_willis: here is the log of the crash when launching from konsole http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490817/
[06:50] <devnull_> WeThePeople, where did you install linux to ?
[06:50] <b3nj> help me, ubuntu does not boot showing black screen
[06:50] <WeThePeople> devnull_, /opt
[06:50] <WeThePeople> devnull_, localhost shows nothing
[06:50] <WeThePeople> in chrome
[06:50] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | b3nj
[06:50] <eos_> dr_willis: I have tried removing all config files as well
[06:51] <devnull_> WeThePeople, i dont understand what you are trying to do .... are you in linux ?
[06:51] <dr_willis> eos_:  see if a newly made user works as a test
[06:51] <b3nj> dr_willis, i boot ubuntu not for the first time
[06:51] <eos_> dr_willis: yes, this is what I am doing now
[06:51] <Guest59790> B3nj: have you tried a previous version?
[06:51] <WeThePeople> devnull_, yes precise.. i want to get lampp to come up in a browser
[06:51] <devnull_> WeThePeople, first of all ... stop saying LAMP
[06:52] <maqr> devnull_: oh, it turns out i shouldn't even be upgrading the whole OS, i should be doing something called 'unattended-upgrades'
[06:52] <devnull_> load a browser and go to localhost
[06:52] <WeThePeople> devnull_, no
[06:52] <WeThePeople> that what it is
[06:52] <b3nj> Guest59790: i do not know what it is but when in grub i choose advanced options for ubuntu it shows 3.5 kernel and when i choose it ubuntu boots normally
[06:52] <devnull_> do you mean LAMP or are you saying LAMPP
[06:53] <kslater> time to hit the sack. Thanks for the help and grins everyone.
[06:53] <devnull_> night kslater
[06:53] <kaeza> back
[06:53] <kaeza> devnull_: it worked!!
[06:53] <devnull_> kaeza, sweet
[06:53] <kaeza> I'm now on ubuntu!
[06:53] <kslater> have to get some sleep as I have to visit the Dr. again tomorrow.
[06:53] <kaeza> thank you so much!
[06:54] <WeThePeople> devnull_, it xampp for Linux, localhost says error not found
[06:54] <devnull_> np
[06:54] <Guest59790> B3nj have you some that and then checked for additional drivers for your video card?
[06:54] <WeThePeople> hence lampp
[06:54] <kslater> now we all need to figure out devnull_'s problem where his subwoofer isn't working..
[06:54] <kaeza> and I also got rid of the global menu in the process ^_^
[06:54] <devnull_> WeThePeople, what are you trying to do ... stop saying LAMP
[06:54] <b3nj> Guest59790: what do you mean?
[06:55] <b3nj> Guest59790: yesterday ubuntu booted alright
[06:55] <ben_> Hello everybody, can an ubuntu noob get some help?
[06:55] <jCuber> !ask | ben_
[06:56] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: If you are on Linux, you dont need LAMPP, just install Apache2 PHP MYSQL and you should be sorted, each of those are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT applications/Modules
[06:56] <Xabster> Hi, I just googled to see if i could find a list of supported hardware - anyone got a link cause my results are way off
[06:56] <b3nj> !patience
[06:56] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, thanks
[06:56] <ben_> I've got 12.10, and I lose my audio playback after a suspend/resume cycle and can't get it back without a reboot. HP notebook.  Anyone know of any fixes for that?
[06:56] <WeThePeople> kylescottmcgill, lampp comes with all of those
[06:56] <WeThePeople> and more
[06:56] <devnull_> WeThePeople, stop
[06:56] <b3nj> Guest59790: well?
[06:56] <devnull_> WeThePeople, what the hell are you trying to do ?? answer the question
[06:57] <eos_> dr_willis: still returns many errors but it does not crash anymore!
[06:57] <WeThePeople> devnull_, as i stated get lampp to show up in the browser
[06:57] <devnull_> WeThePeople, STOP saying LAMPP
[06:57] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[06:57] <Xabster> you mean apache2's default page, WeThePeople?
[06:57] <WeThePeople> lampp is running and is returning a error not found in chrome
[06:57] <Guest59790> B3nj: you said that of you select advanced options it works correct? If so once in find the application that searches for additional drivers and see if there is one for your graphics card.
[06:58] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: please paste the link to the package you are using
[06:58] <Xabster> WeThePeople: lamp can't run; it's not a program
[06:58] <eos_> dr_willis: what do you think?
[06:58] <maqr> heh, i wonder what the history of having 'unattended-upgrades' symlinked to 'unattended-upgrade' is
[06:58] <Ailos> is this working?
[06:58] <WeThePeople> LINK>>> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#377
[06:58] <devnull_> maqr, good question
[06:58] <Xabster> or, maybe lampp actually is a program launcher thingy, my bad
[06:58] <kylescottmcgill> Thanks, ok DONT USE THAT, do it properly
[06:58] <devnull_> WeThePeople, why don't you just install apache, mysql, php like everyone else does
[06:59] <jCuber> ben_: I can't remember how to do it, but you could try restarting your audio service (pulseaudio, i presume)
[06:59] <WeThePeople> devnull_, i have those installed
[06:59] <WeThePeople> lampp
[06:59] <dulio> WeThePeople: I use xampp only in win...
[06:59] <WeThePeople> go to the website
[06:59] <b3nj> Guest59790: okay
[06:59] <Ailos> can anyone see this message?
[06:59] <devnull_> WeThePeople, exactly .... we all have LAMP ... you have LAMPP XAMPP which is something prepackaged i believe
[06:59] <devnull_> Ailos, hi
[06:59] <jCuber> Ailos: Yes
[06:59] <Ailos> woo!
[06:59] <Ailos> thanks, trying to figure out how pidgin works
[06:59] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 php5-common php5-mysql
[07:00] <devnull_> WeThePeople, it is an acronym for the software
[07:00] <devnull_> and what is the extra P for ?
[07:00] <ben_> jcuber, can you explain how I'd go about that please? I'm very poor in a terminal still.
[07:00] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: Perl
[07:00] <kylescottmcgill> or Python
[07:00] <devnull_> ahh
[07:00] <devnull_> yea ... definately just install apache2 the normal way
[07:00] <Xabster> kylescottmcgill: i'm new to linux - after that command, how to start the webserver daemon?
[07:00] <kylescottmcgill> Apache will automatically start
[07:00] <devnull_> if you need a control center there has to be one out there
[07:00] <kylescottmcgill> once you have installed all of the above
[07:01] <Xabster> as a auto-start service on boot?
[07:01] <Xabster> mkay
[07:01] <kylescottmcgill> type into your browser 127.0.0.1
[07:01] <devnull_> Xabster, apache2 should autostart if you have it installed
[07:01] <WeThePeople> devnull_, here is the output>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1490840/
[07:01] <Guest59790> B3nj: have you tried my suggestion yet?
[07:01] <jCuber> ben_: I can't remember myself. Hey folks, how does one restart pulseaudio service?
[07:01] <WeThePeople> devnull_, localhost says error not found
[07:01] <Ailos> is there a way to open the Additional Hardware Drivers dialog from command line?
[07:01] <b3nj> Guest59790: to find driver?
[07:01] <devnull_> WeThePeople, you already have those services running
[07:02] <WeThePeople> devnull_, yes
[07:02] <devnull_> WeThePeople, STOP with the lampp stuff
[07:02] <WeThePeople> made you say it
[07:02] <WeThePeople> lol
[07:02] <Ben64> WeThePeople: why are you installing/running things that way? use the normal ubuntu way
[07:02] <Guest59790> B3nj: yes
[07:02] <WeThePeople> ben64, idk the norm
[07:02] <devnull_> WeThePeople, hehe
[07:02] <Ben64> WeThePeople: use the software center
[07:02] <b3nj> Guest59790: but if i boot with advanced options it works well, so why do you think this is a driver problem
[07:03] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: we are trying to help you with the norm... lol Software Center isnt the norm when your install development packages :D
[07:03] <devnull_> WeThePeople, ubuntu has many docs on getting a "AMP" setup
[07:03] <eos_> dr_willis: yet, I do not undertsand what is wrong with the other users configuration .... I would need all users to be allowed to use it.
[07:03] <Ben64> !lamp
[07:03] <dulio> why not tasksel?
[07:03] <dulio> tasksel to select LAMP server
[07:04] <devnull_> WeThePeople, im not trying to be hard on you ... im just trying to get you to understand that you probably should be doing this through the traditional ubuntu channel .. not outside sources
[07:04] <Ben64> dulio: thats what the !lamp links to
[07:04] <dulio> Ben64: :)
[07:04] <kylescottmcgill> dulio: you could do that too, ive been a web developer for a long time, so i remember all this stuff, plus i like to configure it my way
[07:05] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i hear ya
[07:05] <Xabster> Hi, I just googled to see if i could find a list of supported hardware - anyone got a link cause my results are way off
[07:05] <Transhumanist> apt-get is the norm often even when you're not installing development packages
[07:05] <Transhumanist> it's much faster
[07:05] <devnull_> Xabster, supported hardware for what ?
[07:05] <Transhumanist> and recommends the correct package when you get its name wrong
[07:05] <dulio> kylescottmcgill: yea, me,too. but i installed first time by tasksel --!
[07:05] <Muphrid> Xabster: have you seen https://friendly.ubuntu.com/
[07:05] <devnull_> WeThePeople, i would uninstall your XAMPP/LAMPP  package of software
[07:05] <kylescottmcgill> dulio: yeah fair point
[07:06] <Xabster> devnull_: i'm considering replacing windows 7 on my home desktop with ubuntu 12.10 - i had problems in windows 7 with my quite new motherboards (network and sound didn't work)
[07:06] <Xabster> i want to prepare for problems before i do anything
[07:06] <devnull_> Xabster, grab a LIVE CD .. i mean DVD now ... and either put it on a DVD or usb drive and boot into it
[07:06] <dulio> kylescottmcgill: But I am not good at advanced options just like change mysql params.
[07:06] <Xabster> right, installing makes no difference for drivers then i take it
[07:06] <devnull_> Xabster, if things work .. i would say ubuntu supports your hardware .. though if you go through ubuntus docs they do have pages and pages about hardware compatibility
[07:07] <dulio> kylescottmcgill: You may help me somehow :)
[07:07] <Xabster> i see, but i very much doubt it works, so i would have to try some drivers
[07:07] <Ben64> Xabster: installing ubuntu makes it run faster, and you get better graphics drivers as well
[07:07] <Xabster> Ben64, assuming there are drivers for my ATI card :)
[07:07] <kylescottmcgill> dulio: defaults are normally pretty good, but with single application servers, you can tweak it to work more for you, and sift out cruft you dont need/want
[07:07] <devnull_> Xabster, try the live cd
[07:07] <Ben64> Xabster: there is a very high chance ubuntu will "just work"
[07:07] <dr_willis> eos_:  i would check the config files and ownerships of the problem user
[07:08] <kylescottmcgill> dulio: im always willing to lend a helping hand :)
[07:08] <devnull_> Xabster, it is possible you may be missing some features .. but i would bet 90+ of your hardware will be supported out of the box
[07:08] <anth0ny> When I run 'users' in terminal, I see 'anthony' twice. When I run 'uptime', I see '2 users'.  Why would this be?
[07:08] <eos_> dr_willis: which configuration file? I tried deleting .gimp on the users home dir but did not work .... any other relevant configuration files?
[07:08] <Ben64> anth0ny: every instance of a login adds another
[07:08] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: are you logged in twice?
[07:08] <kylescottmcgill> in different TTY's?
[07:09] <anth0ny> kylescottmcgill: it would appear that I am logged in.  I don't kow how/why
[07:09] <dr_willis> eos_:  no idea. im not on a ubuntu box to look. and havent used gimp in months
[07:09] <dulio> kylescottmcgill: thx, I will learn more here.
[07:09] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: run w in the terminal
[07:09] <anth0ny> Ben64: the real quesiton is, why are there two instances of login?
[07:09] <dr_willis> eos_:  look for stuff owned by root for starters
[07:09] <kylescottmcgill> it will tell you where are you logged in
[07:09] <Ben64> anth0ny: open another terminal and try again
[07:09] <eos_> dr_willis: could not find anything really
[07:09] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:09] <eos_> dr_willis: thanks a lot!
[07:10] <anth0ny> kylescottmcgill: http://pastie.org/5614532
[07:10] <anth0ny> kylescottmcgill: so, looks like Ubuntu is a user and then the terminal is another?
[07:10] <anth0ny> Ben64: ^
[07:10] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: i wouldnt worry about that, your Terminal has just 'logged you in'
[07:11] <kylescottmcgill> TTY7 is GUI, everything is more or less encapsulated into TTY7
[07:11] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: ya
[07:12] <anth0ny> The real issue is that Ubunut12.04 seems to be running really slowly. I used to run Mint and before that, Ubuntu 11.04 and they ran so much faster. Trying to figure out what's causing the major delay that occurs when the system starts up and to open applicaitons
[07:13] <devnull_> anth0ny,   Unity
[07:13] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: yeah try booting into Classic mode (i dont know if this enable by default)
[07:13] <devnull_> anth0ny, i had to tweak unity a lot on my old laptop to get decent speed ... and minesweeper was laggy as all heck
[07:13] <anth0ny> devnull_: what, is unity known for being really slow?
[07:13] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i think it needs to be downloaded
[07:13] <anth0ny> ugh
[07:14] <anth0ny> what a bummer
[07:14] <devnull_> anth0ny, not particularly ... but it is a 3d desktop .. and the side-scroll bars can cause latency issues ... it is new toolkits
[07:14] <Ben64> anth0ny: what graphics card do  you have
[07:14] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: ohk, i install Gnome3, and it appears, so i wasnt sure if it came with Gnome3 or it just enabled it as a fallback
[07:14] <devnull_> might need better graphic drivers
[07:14] <devnull_> i think you have to get it seperate ... gnome-classic ?
[07:14] <devnull_> or you can get cinnamon
[07:15] <devnull_> or some other fork of gnome2 even
[07:15] <Ben64> Ubuntu 2D might have better performance
[07:15] <Ben64> cinnamon is not supported here
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> i use awesome wm :D its awesome....
[07:15] <devnull_> gotcha
[07:15] <anth0ny> Ben64: DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5	
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: that should be sweet as
[07:15] <Ben64> anth0ny: do you have the proprietary drivers for it?
[07:15] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i used WM for years until sawfish came out
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> hmm i will have a look
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> oh the movie :D
[07:16] <anth0ny> Ben64 - i believe so. it should be mentioned that when it was running fast, it was without that card
[07:16] <devnull_> sawfish was the Window Manager for gnome ... then it was called meta-city i think
[07:16] <devnull_> in the past that is
[07:16] <devnull_> anth0ny, you might need the ATI proprietary drivers ... or see if you are running the radeon open source one ... it worked for me on my old laptop
[07:16] <kylescottmcgill> oh i see, yeah i like my Tiling Window Managers, i enjoy Gnome3 as well, but i feel more productive in Awesome
[07:16] <devnull_> unfortunately i am using the ATI fglrx prop. drivers on my new laptop
[07:17] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i felt the same way ... Window Maker was awesome .. it still is ... i just feel that gnome stepped it up and has a good feature set and doesn't take up to much realestate anymore
[07:17] <anth0ny> brb
[07:17] <kylescottmcgill> ya fair enough
[07:18] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, though when unity came out i was tempted to go back to WM for a bit :)
[07:18] <rocket_> I fogot how to register into a channel, its been awhile
[07:18] <somsip> !register | rocket_
[07:19] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i loved all the docked applets ... it was so sweet ...   to bad Enlightenment still hasn't made it mainstream yet
[07:19] <WeThePeople> what is a webserver for precise?
[07:19] <somsip> devnull_: Enlightment is now 1.0
[07:19] <devnull_> WeThePeople, Apache2
[07:20] <kylescottmcgill> Yeah, a lot of people seem to look down on it, because it requires a fari amount of attention prior to it working the way people expect, idk meh
[07:20] <devnull_> somsip, i saw the E17 thing as its own distro
[07:20] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: sudo service apache2 status/reload/restart/stop/start are your friends if you have made any config changes
[07:21] <kylescottmcgill> /var/www is your default Web Directory
[07:21] <kylescottmcgill> 127.0.0.1 will navigate to that directory
[07:21] <somsip> devnull_: you mean Elementary? Enlightment is a wm (and stuff) AFAICT. Still, I'm on awesome too so makes no difference to me
[07:21] <dr_willis> enlightment has slowly grown into a desktop. but i find it.. lacking. ;)
[07:22] <devnull_> somsip, yea something like that ... havne't kept up on it in awhile ... since compiz i haven't seen a need for the effects of enlightenment
[07:22] <somsip> devnull_: agreed, and must get back to work and on topic...
[07:22] <devnull_> somsip, i hear ya ... i am procrastinating
[07:23] <devnull_> time to make the phps do that thing they do
[07:23] <kylescottmcgill> ya imma brb good luck WeThePeople
[07:23] <WeThePeople> thanks
[07:23] <eos_> dr_willis: even with the new user, if I log in I have the same problem .... it crashes again
[07:24] <dr_willis> eos_:  that is weird.  you are using gimp from the default repos?
[07:24] <eos_> dr_willis: yes
[07:24] <devnull_> anyone have any idea on how to get my quad speakers plus subwoofer to work in 12.10 ?  i have no subwoofer and only 2 channels
[07:25] <eos_> dr_willis: did you see the log file I posted by any chance? I cannot make sense of it
[07:25] <hackinblack> Sooo Is ubuntu mobile going to be able to be installed on existing phones say if there unlocked rooted etc. On android?
[07:25] <dr_willis> eos_:  it ment very little to me.. warnings then a segfault
[07:25] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  we dont know
[07:25] <devnull_> hackinblack, i haven't read anything ... but i would imagine it is being targetted at newer devices
[07:25] <eos_> dr_willis: what is the best way to debug?
[07:26] <dr_willis> theres no real details out about it hackinblack
[07:26] <devnull_> i guess people forget there was linux based phones over 12 years ago
[07:26] <dr_willis> eos_:  theres debugging/strace tools  but ive never used them
[07:26] <hackinblack> Well that sucks I just saw the video :(
[07:26] <devnull_> hackinblack, yea im excited to ... we will have to wait :(
[07:26] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  and it may be a year+ befor you get your hands on one
[07:27] <hackinblack> Devnull 12 years ago I was playing with toys lol
[07:27] <devnull_> hackinblack, haha ... your the second person to say that today
[07:27] <devnull_> someone called me old because i have been using linux since 98 and that was when they were born
[07:28] <maqr> devnull_: we are old
[07:28] <dr_willis> get off my lawn!
[07:28] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:28] <maqr> yeah!
[07:28] <hackinblack> Lol dev
[07:28] <Xabster> devnull_: to 14 year olds everyone with pubes are old
[07:28] <devnull_> i suppose ... im only 28  ... you hooligans
[07:28] <Xabster> take no offense
[07:29] <hackinblack> I'm 19 wasn't much into technology 12 years ago
[07:29] <dr_willis> these days 6 yr olfs got their own cellphones
[07:29] <Ben64> ubuntu phone :|
[07:29] <dr_willis> and 100000 friends on facebook
[07:30] <hackinblack> It's insane
[07:30] <Ben64> but i like android...
[07:30] <kion> Droid rocks
[07:30] <maqr> android is pretty sweet, i'm not sure what the deal with ubuntu phone is
[07:30] <devnull_> well your lucky you are coming to linux now ... it is a lot easier now than back then
[07:30] <dr_willis> ive seen so much hype and vaporware  - so i will wait and see...
[07:30] <maqr> kion: *cringe* don't use the motorola branding :(
[07:30] <devnull_> i remember waiting for usb support in the kernel
[07:30] <hackinblack> Yea android is the best in my opinion but I'm excited for ubuntu
[07:30] <eos_> dr_willis: thanks a lot, have to go!
[07:30] <Ben64> i don't see the point of ubuntu phone
[07:31] <dr_willis> people dident see the point in smartphonnnes a few years back
[07:31] <hackinblack> ^
[07:31] <Ben64> but we all already have smart phones
[07:32] <Ben64> and we chose either android or apple, and we have apps and everything for whichever platform
[07:32] <devnull_> Ben64, i wouldn't mind giving ubuntu a try on a phone
[07:32] <hackinblack> I'm on my smartphone right now lol using android irc
[07:32] <devnull_> your forgetting about blackberry ... which is dying
[07:32] <dr_willis> and  no longer need other devices like mp3 players and tomtoms...   ubuntu phone could eliminate your laptop.
[07:32] <Ben64> my phone already eliminated my laptop
[07:32] <wachpwnski> Is there any reason ZFS-FUSE is spawned as a process many times on my box?
[07:32] <dr_willis> ircing from my phone also
[07:32] <hackinblack> Idk about eliminate with me I will always fall back to a laptop or desktop.
[07:33] <kion> Can someone explain me what Zeitgheist process is?
[07:33] <Ben64> my phone has fast internet everywhere in the country
[07:33] <Ben64> !info zeitgeist
[07:33] <kion> !info is that a command???
[07:33] <dr_willis> kion:  a  system/user ussage logger/data toool to show you what files you have been working on
[07:34] <dr_willis> can show you how many hrs you hav e been using this or that app. or other things
[07:35] <kion> dr_willis: Can it be used to spy on people? Should I uninstall it?
[07:35] <dr_willis> kion:  should be online guides about it.
[07:35] <dr_willis> its handy in some cases
[07:37] <nipar> Can anyone recommend a nice way of running a windows VM inside ubuntu, so I can make a switch of OS and still have the few vital windows services running?
[07:37] <dr_willis> 'switch of os' meaning?
[07:37] <nipar> I want to be on ubuntu at all times
[07:37] <dr_willis> you  can run windows in vbox.
[07:38] <nipar> but I have a few vital windows services I need, that keeps me from it
[07:38] <dr_willis> some apps may not run well. depending on the app
[07:38] <nipar> Would this drag performance down a lot, if I had windows running in a vbox literally 24/7?
[07:38] <dr_willis> depends on what its doing
[07:38] <hackinblack> Depends
[07:38] <dr_willis> and your specs
[07:39] <nipar> only one way to find out I guess
[07:40] <nipar> booting over to ubuntu, hopefully for the last time :l
[07:41] <dulio> how to ignore login/logout info here?
[07:41] <somsip> dulio: depends on your client
[07:41] <dulio> somsip: This is irssi
[07:42] <hackinblack> Check settings
[07:42] <dulio> hackinblack: ok,I'll try
[07:42] <somsip> dulio: I have mine in ~/.irssi/config but you can probably do it from /save config or whatever it is...
[07:42] <somsip> dulio: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[07:43] <OerHeks> somsip +1
[07:43] <dulio> somsip: 3q
[07:43] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: inside Alsamixer, or amixer when you pick the card what do you get?
[07:44] <kelvinella> hi how to get weather applet to work?
[07:44] <kelvinella> i did this : sudo apt-get install indicator-weather
[07:44] <kelvinella> but still no weather applet in 12.04
[07:45] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, yea i have gone through all of that ... there is my hdmi out with nothing and my card with the standard mixers .. master, mic, pcm etc ..
[07:45] <dr_willis> say a neat alternative weather applet thing on the omgubuntu sites top 10 apps for 2012 list
[07:45] <devnull_> i can virtually bump it to 6 channels ... but still no sub
[07:45] <kion> kelvinella: did sudo apt-get install indicator-weather work?
[07:45] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: lame, i dont have surround, so im not sure sorry
[07:45] <dulio> it seems work. ^.^
[07:46] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, well surround or not .. i would deal with just 3 channels ... f-left, f-right and lfe through sub would be nice
[07:46] <kelvinella> i mean i run sudo apt-get install indicator-weather it installs but how to add applet in 12.04??
[07:46] <kelvinella> cant right click on panel and add??
[07:47] <devnull_> kelvinella, try launching it from dash
[07:47] <devnull_> that status area has a new system for having apps on it
[07:47] <kelvinella> http://pastebin.com/SbtkMtss
[07:47] <kion> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now my google earth is gone!!! can someone tell me why???
[07:47] <kelvinella> devnill, launch what?
[07:48] <kelvinella> devnull_, launch what? how?
[07:48] <AndroUser2> Kino why did u update ?
[07:48] <devnull_> kelvinella, from the dash .... you using unity ?
[07:49] <kelvinella> devnull_, oic
[07:49] <kelvinella> devnull_, i still stuck in the gnome mindset
[07:49] <devnull_> kelvinella, i understand ... it takes a bit to get used to
[07:50] <kelvinella> /usr/bin/indicator-weather crash
[07:50] <AndroUser2> 
[07:50] <kion> AndroUser2: wanted to have the latest version of all the programs
[07:50] <AndroUser2> 
[07:50] <devnull_> from a terminal run indicator-weather
[07:51] <mih1406> Hi, Is can I setup Ubutnu One using the terminal only?
[07:51] <kelvinella> when i add location and click apply, it crashes
[07:51] <shenhd> exit
[07:51] <devnull_> kelvinella, did you launch it from the terminal
[07:52] <kelvinella> should i pick google or yahoo weather?
[07:52] <kelvinella> i did that in dash
[07:52] <devnull_> idk
[07:52] <devnull_> do it from the term so you can see the output
[07:52] <kelvinella> wait
[07:53] <kelvinella> how to run applet in terminal?
[07:53] <devnull_> indicator-weather
[07:53] <devnull_> just type the command and hit enter
[07:53] <kion> Kevinella I since unity i had to get rid of that app because it kept crashing on my system
[07:54] <kelvinella> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:54] <kelvinella>   File "/usr/bin/indicator-weather", line 1883, in on_apply
[07:54] <kelvinella>     (location_code, location_details) = self.location.export_location_details()
[07:54] <kelvinella>   File "/usr/bin/indicator-weather", line 405, in export_location_details
[07:54] <kelvinella>     return (self.location_code, self.location_details)
[07:54] <FloodBot1> kelvinella: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <kelvinella> AttributeError: Location instance has no attribute 'location_code'
[07:54] <kelvinella> sorry
[07:54] <devnull_> kelvinella, is the location code supposed to be in weather format ?
[07:55] <kelvinella> ?
[07:55] <devnull_> like in code
[07:55] <devnull_> you have to find out the code for the location you want
[07:55] <ikla_> is ubuntu hard to install
[07:55] <devnull_> ikla_, no
[07:55] <ikla_> I'm thinking about trying it out
[07:55] <ihackeverything> UK no
[07:55] <kion> ikla_ very simple
[07:55] <devnull_> ikla_, less clicks than windows i believe
[07:55] <ihackeverything> Yea also dual booting
[07:55] <kion> ikla_ linux is the best OS, and Ubuntu is a great linux distro
[07:55] <ikla_> why is it the best
[07:56] <kion> ikla_ highly recommended
[07:56] <devnull_> kelvinella, they use a number format i believe to identify locations
[07:56] <kelvinella> so it doesnt work?
[07:56] <ikla_> hmm
[07:56] <ikla_> do I download the iso image
[07:56] <ikla_> can it fit on cdr?
[07:57] <kion> ikla_ because it allows me to controll my hardware exactly as I want and because of the huge amounts of software there is , not to mention the security etc?. I could go on and on..
[07:57] <devnull_> how do you pick your location for the weather app ? did you just type in a city and state or something ?
[07:57] <devnull_> because that isn't how it works
[07:57] <kion> Ikla_: yes download your iso image burn it into a disk or usb and boot from there
[07:57] <devnull_> but i can not say if it will work after putting the correct code in ... it might not work at all either way
[07:58] <devnull_> ikla_, has to be a CD with atleast 750mb of space ... i suggest usb or dvd
[07:58] <devnull_> ubuntu has ditched trying to keep the images small enough to fit on most cds
[08:01] <mohi666> I'm trying to install a media center server on my Linux box to stream 1080P videos to my Google TV box. Any idea what server I should install?
[08:01] <devnull_> myth ?
[08:02] <ikonia> mohi666: it depends what your google TV box needs as a client
[08:02] <HackinBlack> FloodBot1
[08:02] <ikonia> mohi666: I'd approach it from that viewpoint
[08:02] <HackinBlack> FloodBot1
[08:02] <mohi666> ikonia, I know there's an app that supports DLNA out of the box
[08:03] <mohi666> however, I may end up having videos in different format. I'm not too sure if it can play all of them
[08:03] <devnull_> dlna might work
[08:03] <ikonia> mohi666: there are many, hence why it I'd check what your client needs
[08:03] <devnull_> are you pushing to the googletv box or pulling
[08:04] <mohi666> devnill, I have all the movies stored in my linux server
[08:04] <mohi666> devnill, that's why I'm trying to push them to google tv box
[08:04] <devnull_> so to googletv does it see your computer as like a mass storage or something ?
[08:05] <Xabster> the image i have is ~770 MB - is there a DVD image with additional drivers and stuff?
[08:05] <Xabster> for a live cd
[08:05] <Xabster> /dvd
[08:05] <mohi666> devnill, I haven't installed any file server or DLNA on my linux box, yet. That's why google tv cannot see anything yet
[08:06] <devnull_> so maybe streaming isn't the correct term
[08:07] <saleh> hi
[08:08] <HackinBlack> (saleh) hi
[08:09] <saleh> can you help me ?
[08:09] <HackinBlack> Ask Ur question
[08:09] <devnull_> idk
[08:09] <devnull_> mohi666, plex ??
[08:10] <krofna> I have a problem... I tried to install fglrx drivers, and since they didn't work well, I wanted to revert back to xorg open source drivers, but after removing fglrx I am stuck on login screen (After login it puts me back on login screen), I replaced lightdm with gdm and it (kind of) fixed the issue, but after login I get bunch of system errors (compiz and x crash). WHat should I do?
[08:10] <mohi666> devnill, I forgot to mention that I may try to access the content on my tablet as well.
[08:10] <devnull_> mohi666, plex looks promising and there is an app for ios/android and apps for most tv boxes including googletv
[08:11] <saleh> i have problem with nvidia geforce gt 540 m -
[08:11] <saleh> i a have problem with nvidia geforce gt 540 m -
[08:11] <devnull_> krofna, reinstall fglrx
[08:11] <mohi666> devnill, plex is not in official Arch Linux repository :( I try to avoid those packages
[08:11] <Transhumanist> Same
[08:11] <krofna> devnull_ Why? fglrx seem to perform horribly and buggy
[08:12] <Transhumanist> And when I did install Plex, it was kind of shit. Seemed very proprietary.
[08:12] <devnull_> krofna, because you will get back to your desktop ... then you can revert the correct way
[08:12] <fwp2k> do you choice sailfishos or ubuntu
[08:12] <devnull_> why do you care about arch linux repo
[08:12] <Transhumanist> Plex isn't in Ubuntu's repos either
[08:13] <Transhumanist> you have to add its repo manually
[08:13] <Transhumanist> I don't trust it, its direction, or the authors
[08:13] <mohi666> devnill, Because plex is in Arch User Repository. I have to manually maintain it, if I install it from there
[08:13] <Transhumanist> He's talking about the fact that this is #ubuntu I think :)
[08:13] <devnull_> they have the debs right on their site
[08:14] <mohi666> Transfusion, true, but Linux is Linux.
[08:14] <devnull_> Transhumanist, yes
[08:14] <Transhumanist> agreed - I don't care :)
[08:14] <devnull_> because at first it sounded like you were asking in the wrong channel when you said arch linux
[08:14] <mohi666> I rather install software that is in my OS official repo
[08:14] <devnull_> as would i
[08:15] <devnull_> but if options are limited it is what it is
[08:15] <blueoil22> ciao
[08:15] <Transhumanist> Anyway, it might be worth considering xbmc for an alternative to Plex.
[08:16] <devnull_> whats xbmc
[08:16] <mohi666> Yeah, I'm going to give a try to xbmc
[08:17] <donnie_> I forgot the terminal command to find out what version of linux I'm using
[08:17] <Transhumanist> devnull: xbmc originally stood for "Xbox Media Centre". It has since become completely cross-platform and is fully open source. Now it has little to do with XBox. But it's in the Ubuntu repos and is recommended for media management by a lot of people
[08:17] <Transhumanist> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBMC
[08:18] <devnull_> uname -a
[08:18] <devnull_> Transhumanist, cool
[08:18] <devnull_> im thinking about getting a roku box
[08:18] <donnie_> I need to one for finding out what ubuntu I'm running, 10, 11,... I do forget that
[08:19] <HackinBlack> You can don't need terminal to see what version u have to go too settings
[08:19] <Transhumanist> I've just set up an old laptop as a server (low energy consumption). Set up smb sharing on it, installed XBMC, plugged into TV, turned laptop's monitor off.
[08:19] <Transhumanist> Also installed Deluge so other computers can get the laptop to do torrents via the web client
[08:20] <Tex_Nick> donnie : lsb_release -a
[08:20] <devnull_> nice one tex
[08:23] <techouse> is there a way i could xzip a file over ssh from the server to my local machine without making an xz file first on the server?
[08:23] <biopyte> hi, i'm using gnome classic + compiz on ubuntu 12.04.  is there a way navigating through the desktop wall just by touching the edges with mouse? right now i can switch workspaces only using keys or the workspace switcher in the status bar. edge flipping on mouse contact would be very helpful.
[08:23] <techouse> sort of "pipe" it via xzip to my machine
[08:24] <dulio> biopyte, yea, I like classic too
[08:25] <dulio> biopyte, I like edge flipping
[08:25] <devnull_> biopyte, yes it is in compiz
[08:25] <devnull_> or in a tweaks program
[08:25] <devnull_> do you have compiz settings manager
[08:25] <biopyte> yes,
[08:25] <biopyte> but which setting?
[08:26] <devnull_> biopyte, find desktop wall .. bindings
[08:26] <dulio> devnull_, the feature comes from compiz?
[08:26] <biopyte> ok ... and then?
[08:26] <Tex_Nick> techouse : would something like this work ... tar -cvf files | (cd target_directory ; tar -xpf)
[08:27] <devnull_> desktop wall -> bindings
[08:27] <devnull_> im on 12.10 so i have a crippled compiz config manager
[08:27] <biopyte> devnull, got it ... then change what setting?
[08:27] <devnull_> well go to the edge flipping tab first .. and activate what you want
[08:27] <biopyte> i tried several before already
[08:28] <devnull_> let me reread your question .. hold on
[08:28] <biopyte> devnull, that doesnt make flipping on mouse touch
[08:29] <devnull_> its supposed to
[08:29] <devnull_> try looking for ubuntu tweak or something like that
[08:29] <biopyte> ok, thx
[08:29] <devnull_> try the viewport switcher in compiz
[08:30] <devnull_> viewport switcher -> desktopbased viewport switching
[08:31] <devnull_> i have mine to scroll through desktop but they have the option for using edges of the screen .. you can go left right up and down
[08:31] <HackinBlack> Ubuntu tweak
[08:32] <devnull_> hackinblack knows where its at
[08:33] <devnull_> though in 12.10 there is a lot missing in compiz settings manager
[08:33] <techouse> Tex_Nick, yea if it were local, but dunno if i can put ssh remote location into the pipe
[08:33] <Xabster> "Want to download via BitTorrent links, get DVD images with more language packs, use the text-based alternate installer or find previous versions of Ubuntu?"
[08:33] <Xabster> those DVD sized images are nowhere to be found
[08:34] <dr_willis> Xabster: what release?
[08:34] <nipar> Anyone up for helping me getting USB to work on virtualbox?
[08:34] <Xabster> 12.10
[08:34] <Xabster> desktop
[08:34] <Tex_Nick> devnull : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[08:34] <dr_willis> 12.10 is only on a dvs
[08:34] <dr_willis> dvd
[08:34] <devnull_> Tex_Nick, thanks
[08:35] <devnull_> i forgot i had done that on my old machine
[08:35] <devnull_> Tex_Nick, much better now :) :)
[08:35] <dr_willis> 12.10 no longer has the alt installer disk either
[08:35] <Tex_Nick> techouse : how about this ... tar -cvf files | ssh remote_host (cd target_directory ; tar -xpf)
[08:36] <blueoil22> ciao
[08:36] <Motoservo> Ugh. I need linux on my Mac for an old scanner I need to run. After four days of trying to install Ubuntu I've mostly got it up save for two last issues. I can only boot through Recovery Mode, when I boot right into Linux I end up with a purple screen with some off video streaks. But after Recovery mode it will make it to the GUI just fine. Any tips on what's going on?
[08:36] <HackinBlack> Huh mac
[08:36] <techouse> virtualbox?
[08:36] <techouse> vmware?
[08:36] <Tex_Nick> devnull : you're welcome
[08:36] <techouse> why not those :P
[08:36] <Motoservo> No virtual box.
[08:37] <Motoservo> just installed it onto an external drive.
[08:37] <devnull_> Motoservo, sounds like the graphics weren't set right in the kernel boot options possibly
[08:37] <techouse> lol
[08:37] <nipar> on 12.10, I have added my username to the usergroup vboxusers - this supposively should enable me to mount USB in virtualbox. However, vbox returns error and persists I should enable my username in the vboxusers group. Anyone got a clue of whats not working as intended?
[08:37] <HackinBlack> Ur first problem is its on a mac
[08:38] <Xabster> dr_willis, but where are the larger images with more languages and stuff?
[08:38] <kion> yes macs suck
[08:38] <kion> unfortunately I have one
[08:38] <Motoservo> Any idea how I can fix that, devnull_?
[08:38] <dr_willis> Xabster:  no idea
[08:38] <elfer> i dont like macs
[08:38] <HackinBlack> U should always build Ur own
[08:38] <Motoservo> Well, I can't disagree more, Kion. Four days trying to install an OS is my idea of suck.
[08:39] <devnull_> you can try adjusting gfxmode in grub.cfg
[08:39] <Eagleman> Where can i find a copy of the default file in /etc/apache2/sites-avaible  ?
[08:39] <Motoservo> I didn't come here for a bunch Mac bashing. But I suppose that's what the Linux community has to offer.
[08:40] <devnull_> get it to just do text instead of framebuffer
[08:40] <dr_willis> recovery mode works fine?
[08:40] <devnull_> yes
[08:40] <Motoservo> Yes, it works.
[08:40] <biopyte> devnull, i changed desktop-based-viewport-switching-mouse-left to <left edge> button1. still no switching on pointer contact.
[08:40] <dr_willis> recovery uses nomodeset i think
[08:41] <dr_willis> and tuens off  the fremabufffer
[08:41] <HackinBlack> I'm sure you can always go to a mac irc and have them help you
[08:41] <dr_willis> turns
[08:41] <devnull_> why would you set it like that
[08:41] <devnull_> button1 requires a click
[08:41] <devnull_> just use the edge
[08:41] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[08:41] <devnull_> thanks dr_willis that is what i was reaching for
[08:41] <Motoservo> How can I set that on the regular boot, dr_willis?
[08:42] <devnull_> Eagleman, get it from the package
[08:42] <nearst> Motoservo, /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[08:42] <Eagleman> devnull_, i always forget i have rsnapshot running, sorry
[08:42] <dr_willis> Motoservo:  if its using grub.. see above
[08:42] <biopyte> devnull, button1 is default, alternatives are button 2 - 20,  no other option besides button x
[08:42] <Motoservo> thanks, nearst
[08:42] <Motoservo> Yes, using grub.
[08:43] <biopyte> devnull, even clicking doesnt work, anyway
[08:44] <devnull_> biopyte, i see ... disable that binding for now
[08:44] <biopyte> devnull, ok
[08:45] <devnull_> ill see if i can find one that just uses edges
[08:45] <biopyte> alright
[08:46] <biopyte> alternativly, i could install brightside, but that conflicts with compiz
[08:46] <devnull_> desktop wall looks like the only other spot
[08:46] <devnull_> ubuntu tweak
[08:47] <HackinBlack> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[08:47] <angryWolf> Hello all
[08:48] <devnull_> dang it .. something grabbed my left edge binding
[08:48] <angryWolf> is there a german ubuntu help channel?
[08:48] <Tex_Nick> !de | angryWolf
[08:48] <nearst> hi angryWolf
[08:49] <HackinBlack> !de
[08:49] <nrosvall> Hi
[08:49] <alimj> angryWolf: Wir vershtehen nur Bahnhof !!!
[08:49] <nearst> 0,0
[08:50] <non-> anyone know a little about bzip2
[08:50] <nearst> why?
[08:50] <biopyte> devnull, what do you mean 'ubuntu tweak'? i cant find such a package.
[08:50] <nrosvall> I'm a long time Windows developer and I'm just about to start developing an application for Ubuntu. Now with this new Ubuntu Phone and coming Ubuntu sdk. Is it still recommened to use gtk and python as mentioned in developer.ubuntu.com? Or should I go for c++ and qt? Or is it just too early to think about the phone?
[08:51] <HackinBlack> Ich liebe dich
[08:51] <OerHeks> non-, ask your real question and find out
[08:51] <nearst> !ubuntu-tweak
[08:51] <dr_willis> biopyte:  find the ubuntu-tweak homepage
[08:51] <devnull_> there is gtk++
[08:51] <biopyte> dr_willis, ok
[08:51] <HackinBlack> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[08:51] <angryWolf> Maybe it will work in english too. I have a problem with "dvdauthor"  <ERR:  no video format specified for VMGM> I Use KDE Plattform-Version 4.8.5 (4.8.5) on a Linux 3.2.0-35-generic x86_64
[08:51] <non-> haha ok thanks <Derheks> So I had a problem updating Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - I'm trying to download the Android SDK bundle
[08:51] <nearst> python rules
[08:52] <non-> I need to replace the bzip2 file in /usr/lib/apt/methods
[08:52] <HackinBlack> Biopyte
[08:52] <nrosvall> python rules yes, but it seems that the phone will support qt5 and qml, nothing said about python
[08:53] <biopyte> got it, its not in the standard repositories
[08:53] <non-> so I downloaded the tar.gz and moved it into the /usr/lib/apt/methods folder (after deleting bzip2) but do not know which file to put back in, there is an entire directory there... <DerHeks>
[08:54] <abrigan> hello. what channel about programming X11 graphical?
[08:54] <blueoil22> ciao
[08:54] <OerHeks> non-, i don't understand why you need to replace bzip2, what manual/howto are you using ?
[08:54]  * dr_willis ducks the !list
 Bzip2 was unexpectedly dying - stopped me from updating
[08:56] <laze1989> As they are using QML/Qt and C++ in the native application devkit for Ubuntu Phone, is Ubuntu moving towards QML/Qt for the desktop, too? I know there is a point about a Ubuntu Devkit for the Desktop for 13.04.
[08:56] <alimj> angryWolf: It has been a long time since last time I used dvdauthor. The error appears to be related to PAL/NTSC setting. I believe that you may find answer to most questions on videohelp.com
[08:57] <nrosvall> laze1989, I was just wondering the same thing
[08:57] <abrigan> Help pls withprogramming graphics. I have many lines. And i have some *.xpm image (line color), that i need to get on the line. With horizontal line it's easy. Read *.xpm image to pixmap, set GC, set tile with this pixmap and draw line with this GC. But when line is rotated - there is problems. I need that pixmap rotated too. I'm rotate pixmap with bresenham algorithm and set gc with new pixmap. And it's no worked. Painted incorrect. How I can do this, wi
[08:57] <abrigan> th standart library (xlib)? Thx.
[08:58] <devnull_> abrigan, wrong channel ...try a channel for the language you are using first
[08:58] <rasanen7> What's a good MTA for forwarding *some* email to my ISPs mail servers, while keeping others local (like the default install is I guess, for reports and stuff)? I'd also like to avoid keeping plain text passwords in a file anywhere
[08:58] <elfer> yeah videohelp is a great site... not sure how much they support linux tho
[08:58] <angryWolf> thank you alimj.  I have read about a file at /.config/Video_Format with a "PAL" in it. used it to be a text file or will i need another extension?
 I guess it's the .c file in the directory, I'll try figure this one out...
[09:00] <alimj> angryWolf: I believe that you have to edit the main XML project file. Some tags should be added there. I am not sue where.
[09:02] <alimj> angryWolf: I am trying to remember
[09:02] <isildur> !ita
[09:02] <angryWolf> very kind... i wait
[09:03] <isildur> what is italian channel?
[09:03] <alimj> angyWolf: Did you try this? "export VIDEO_FORMAT=PAL"
[09:03] <angryWolf> i know the tag should be a "PAL" in my aerea. It is important to find the main xml file.
[09:03] <Eagleman> !it
[09:04] <nearst> !it | isildur
[09:05] <alimj> angryWolf: Or in the main XML file, in the <video> tag, there should be format="pal"
[09:05] <biopyte> HackinBlack, ubuntu-tweak, found it, thx
[09:06] <angryWolf> But where is those xml file?  The answers will be right for sure.
[09:06] <alimj> angryWolf: It has been long long ago, I switched to MP4 for all of my videos. Do not have a DVD anymore. I could not fully remember...
[09:07] <nearst> :(
[09:07] <alimj> angryWolf: This may help a little: http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/doc/dvdauthor.html
[09:08] <elfer> waz wrong nearst
[09:09] <alimj> angryWolf: If you are not comfortable to create XML files, there are always GUIs available
[09:09] <nearst> elfer, nope. just wonder why my eeepc hang at booting.
[09:09] <alimj> angryWolf: Something like: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVDStyler
[09:10] <God> What
[09:14] <Kartagis> !xen
[09:14] <cousteau> just saw someone watching a video of "ubuntu for phones"
[09:14] <thomedy> hey ihave a question.. i made a php app and it is full detail.. js, php, mysql, html, css its all great.. then i tar it... and untar it.. it breaks...
[09:14] <thomedy> what is that
[09:14] <devnull_> hehe ... lost my left edge exposure of dock menu ... fun fun
[09:14] <cousteau> thomedy, where do you untar it?
[09:15] <thomedy> in the original position.. i dont even know why i u ntared it.. i just did and found out
[09:15] <biopyte> devnull, don't blame me ...;-)
[09:15] <thomedy> the error... i have no idea what is going on
[09:17] <Bsims> what is the best way to keep a few files in sync across windows and linux
[09:18] <jrtappers> Bsims, Dropbox
[09:18] <nextus> dropbox))
[09:18] <jrtappers> if you need it over lan then FTP/SCP
[09:18] <dr_willis> !info unison
[09:19] <jrtappers> I use an ssh tunnel for all sorts
[09:19] <Bsims> Hrm... unison looks reasonable <g>
[09:19] <devnull_> biopyte, got it back ... had to restart unity .. unity --replace
[09:19] <jrtappers> What are the best ubuntu games, I know a gamer who is trying ubuntu for the first time.
[09:20] <biopyte> devnull, i see, no unity here, still one plain old gnome classic
[09:20] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  many of the humble bundle games have native linux games
[09:20] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  and it depends on the kind of game
[09:21] <Ben64> also steam now too
[09:21] <Xabster> already? don't you mean soon?
[09:21] <dr_willis> then theres steam.. it had a few lastt i looked. ;)
[09:21] <Xabster> jrtappers: openttd
[09:21] <Ben64> its in open beta
[09:22] <jrtappers> thanks, is there a way to add terminal as a window manager choice?
[09:22] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  alt-ctrl-f1 to get to a console ;) you mean?
[09:23] <dr_willis> you can make custome x session desktops if you want
[09:23] <jrtappers> As in at the greeter screen, to have an option in the list for terminal
[09:23] <dr_willis> or use a tiny window manager like jwm and launch some terms
[09:24] <Ben64> you can open a terminal any time you want
[09:24] <dr_willis> running xterm with no window manager would be annoying
[09:24] <Ben64> yeah
[09:24] <Bsims> jrtappers: it sounds like you are wanting awesome or something like that
[09:25] <jrtappers> What channel is xchat support?
[09:25] <dr_willis> !alis
[09:26] <dr_willis>  i would guess #xchat
[09:27] <God> #xchatsup
[09:28] <f1> a qustion what is this channel
[09:28] <f1> ?
[09:28] <jrtappers> this is #ubuntu
[09:28] <f1> what is #ubuntu
[09:28] <f1> ?
[09:29] <jrtappers> * Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only), 10.04 LTS, 11.10, 12.04 LTS and 12.10
[09:29] <jrtappers> * Topic for #ubuntu set by IdleOne!~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone at Sun Oct 28 23:59:21 2012
[09:29] <f1> jrtappers ok channel for what
[09:29] <f1> ?
[09:30] <shp> hi, what's the name of the calculator by default on ubuntu please?
[09:30] <devnull_> f1 for ubuntu
[09:30] <shp> ?
[09:30] <shp> i'm not on ubuntu
[09:30] <shp> i just want the soft name
[09:31] <devnull_> gnome-calculator
[09:31] <jrtappers> shp, the name or the terminal command?
[09:31] <shp> thank you devnull_
[09:31] <f1> lol it is system like window or linux
[09:31] <f1> ?
[09:31] <jrtappers> f1, ubuntu is a linux distro
[09:32] <f1> ok so u are all freaks
[09:32] <f1> hehe
[09:32] <devnull_> f1 linux    ubuntu.com
[09:32] <devnull_> ugg
[09:32] <voxcroix> f1: what is f1?
[09:32] <voxcroix> f1: is that formula 1
[09:32] <jrtappers> f1, this statement is false
[09:33] <Myrtti> move on, he is gone
[09:33] <jrtappers> The troll is slain
[09:33] <voxcroix> lol
[09:34] <jrtappers> how do I get Xchat to make ubuntu notifys when my nickname is mentioned, #Xchat seems quiet
[09:35] <devnull_> you will see the icon wiggle above the launcher normally i believe
[09:35] <Prodego> eh on windows it is under settings -> alerts
[09:35] <Prodego> probably roughly similar for the linux version
[09:36] <jrtappers> can someone plz mention my nickname so I can test the popup
[09:36]  * devnull_ slaps jrtrappers
[09:37] <Prodego> jrtappers: probably would have been better to ask #freenode
[09:37] <Prodego> fwiw
[09:39] <root> hi
[09:40] <Guest7491> okies/..
[09:40] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 12.04 I created a RAID10 on six disks of equal size. Is it possible to replace only two disks of them by larger ones and increase the available space of the the array? Or do I need to split the array into a four disk RAID10 and a two disk RAID1? (Or is there another way?)
[09:40] <devnull_> hello superuser
[09:43] <psychopathic> I love you.
[09:43] <tester> Hello All!!
[09:44] <devnull_> im flattered
[09:44] <psychopathic> Can we make baby's.
[09:44] <devnull_> i am a robot
[09:44] <psychopathic> I am a atom.
[09:45] <cousteau> psychopathic, hello, Tom
[09:45] <Myrtti> keep to Ubuntu sypport, please
[09:45] <cousteau> good idea
[09:45] <Myrtti> support even
[09:46] <tester> How to check the reception of the console video stream from an external source multicasting?
[09:47] <devnull_> what
[09:47] <devnull_> vlt ... idk
[09:48] <ANub> hey............my wifi connection dies if i put on torrent downloading / uploading and does not recover untill i restart my laptop....i'm using 12.04 and machine is DEll latitude E6410
[09:49] <ANub> any ideas..?
[09:49] <devnull_> anub hello ... do you know the specs on the wireless device
[09:49] <jrtappers> ANub, home wifi?
[09:49] <ANub> i think so
[09:49] <ANub> yes its home WiFi
[09:49] <mrec> updating from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10. Gnome shell does not work properly, and as usual the mouse is misconfigured again (no tapping works)
[09:50] <ufk> can anyone recommend me of a good wiki engine? there are way too many out there
[09:50] <mrec> I wonder how much pot they smoke at ubuntu to permanently, always break the mouse after an update since the very first day on
[09:50] <devnull_> mrec, what does not work with gnome shell
[09:50] <mrec> applications don't show up in the taskbar at the bottom
[09:50] <lerous> @ufk how about mediawiki?
[09:50] <jrtappers> Can anyone help with my touchpad, HP Pavilion dm1, no rightclick
[09:50] <devnull_> mrec, unity desktop ?
[09:51] <jrtappers> Rightclick is not recognised as a button
[09:51] <ufk> lerous, i love mediawiki! but i know it for years now. nothing new came up? :)
[09:51] <rino_> If you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial
[09:51] <tester>  I use a VLC to view the multicast. I want to write a script that will check the receiving multicast stream on PC
[09:51] <rino_> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
[09:51] <rino_> how is it possible?
[09:51] <FloodBot1> rino_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <rino_> does it mean ubuntu won't use xorg on the phone version of the os?
[09:51] <ANub> ive uploaded the output of "sudo lshw -c network" over here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491425/
[09:51] <ufk> lerous, i'm glad that you said mediawiki!! installing it!
[09:51] <devnull_> jrtrappers ... in what
[09:52] <jrtappers> devnull_, ubuntu
[09:52] <mrec> devnull_: gnome3
[09:52] <mrec> I'd not use unity
[09:52] <jrtappers> *, I have to make two finger clicking rightclick to make it usable
[09:52] <jrtappers> rino_, same kernel
[09:53] <devnull_> mrec ... does the bottom panel do anything
[09:53] <rino_> jrtappers: same kernel, but oem needs different userland drivers if ubuntu is using xorg
[09:53] <ANub> hey............my wifi connection dies if i put on torrent downloading / uploading and does not recover untill i restart my laptop....i'm using 12.04 and machine is DEll latitude E6410
[09:53] <ANub> ive uploaded the output of "sudo lshw -c network" over here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491425/
[09:53] <nextblove> hello am upset regarding how to block user to access flash drive when the logging into ubuntu server.
[09:53] <jrtappers> rino_, It encourages oems to join, and that is good
[09:54] <vlt> devnull_: I think I’ll try before by creating a RAID of several virtual block devices and see … :-)
[09:54] <mrec> devnull_: only the desktop selection works
[09:54] <lerous> ufk, :) nothing new in wiki zone I heard for a while :8
[09:54] <mrec> that is in the bottom panel
[09:54] <devnull_> vlt ... read up on it
[09:54] <devnull_> vlt ... i am not sure how raid works completely so i am not sure if you can just increase your array that way
[09:55] <jrtappers> Can anyone help with my touchpad, HP Pavilion dm1, no rightclick, mouse settings doesn't see the button
[09:55] <devnull_> mrec can you right click on the bottom menu ?
[09:55] <mrec> devnull_: nope
[09:55] <devnull_> jrtappers, working on it
[09:55] <devnull_> mrec can you right click on the desktop switcher ?
[09:56] <lerous> ufk, I google it found a wiki engine named MoinMoin based on python, looks good
[09:56] <mrec> devnull_: yes
[09:56] <Xabster> Hi, I booted into the live CD usb and it appears everything works as it should except my GFX card - can I load drivers for my card while using the live CD to test if it will work after install_
[09:57] <jrtappers> Xabster, it should work, but live CD changes are losst on reboot
[09:57] <jrtappers> Xabster, s anything that needs a reboot wont wor
[09:58] <devnull_> mrec .. just trying to see if you can find a spot to add to that panel and add the taskbar area
[09:58] <Xabster> jrtappers: right, got an idea how i can install those drivers_ last time i used ubuntu there was a @proprietary driver dialog that fixed it for me
[09:58] <jrtappers> Xabster, additional drivers
[09:58] <dr_willis> Xabster: whats yourvideo chipset
[09:58] <Xabster> it\s a HD 6870
[09:59] <Xabster> jrtappers: no such menu in settings
[09:59] <jrtappers> Xabster, search "add" in the launcher, it will come up
[09:59] <devnull_> radon ?
[09:59] <dr_willis> you could do a full install to a flash as a test Xabster
[09:59] <devnull_> radion
[10:00] <Xabster> radeon
[10:00] <Xabster> yes
[10:00] <devnull_> radeon
[10:00] <nextblove> hello am upset regarding how to block user to access flash drive when the logging into ubuntu server.
[10:00] <Xabster> Radeon HD 6870
[10:00] <Xabster> but i dont see an @additional driver@ menu anywhere
[10:00] <devnull_> what doesn't work at the moment with it ?
[10:01] <Xabster> dash doesnt find any matches on driver, and its not in settings
[10:01] <dr_willis> nextblove:  we arer a support channel  not a complaint channel
[10:01] <jrtappers> Xabster, search "add" in dash
[10:01] <devnull_> xabster ... software sources
[10:01] <Xabster> i can hear my GFX cards fans are spinning mad cause its rendering 3D with the 2D portion
[10:01] <mrec> devnull_: that's it thanks
[10:01] <jrtappers> Xabster, Additional Drivers should come up
[10:02] <mrec> alt-right mouse key added it
[10:02] <mrec> now only the desktop is missing ^^
[10:02] <devnull_> mrec, what is missing from the desktop
[10:02] <mrec> everything cannot even create new icons
[10:02] <nextblove> dr_willis i dont mind
[10:03] <devnull_> mrec .... ps ax | grep nautilus
[10:03] <h1_> re.
[10:03] <dr_willis> re?
[10:03] <devnull_> see if it is running
[10:03] <jrtappers> Xabster, how is it now?
[10:04] <mrec> devnull_: not running, but also if I start it it won't make the background icons show up
[10:04] <h1_> werwerwer
[10:05] <jrtappers> devnull_, What happening RE: touchpad?
[10:05] <devnull_> jrtappers, looking
[10:08] <devnull_> jrtappers, does it have seperate buttons for left and right click or is it just touch areas on the pad ?
[10:08] <jrtappers> Sepperate buttons, but ubuntu only recognises one
[10:08] <L0ki> buntu-uk
[10:09] <jrtappers> who is furthest from GB?
[10:10] <devnull_> jrtappers, was this fresh install ?
[10:11] <SoWhat> Hi! Is the same chanel for UbuntuPhone?
[10:11] <aeon-ltd> SoWhat: no
[10:11] <aeon-ltd> SoWhat: i doubt support is very large for something announnced today
[10:11] <devnull_> jrtappers, can you click the bottom right corner of the touchpad and get a right click ?
[10:12] <jrtappers> devnull_, No, it thinks I leftclicked
[10:12] <devnull_> but the two touch method works ?
[10:12] <SoWhat> aeon-ltd: there must be some support
[10:12] <jrtappers> yes, I set two touch as rightclick
[10:13] <jrtappers> The mouse settings only sees one button
[10:14] <Myrtti> SoWhat: are you running it already and need support? if not, then begin at #ubuntu-discuss
[10:14] <NeoColossus> Hello all
[10:14] <SoWhat> Myrtti: thanks!
[10:15] <zhaozhou> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my relatively new Thinkpad laptop, but Ubiquity is giving me some troubles. I'm stracing the application, but I can't make much sense out of the output. It tries to read from some memory location giving 'Resource temporarily unavailable'.
[10:15] <devnull_> xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | grep -i capabilities
[10:15] <zhaozhou> Could I get any help in solving this?
[10:15] <zhaozhou> Should I, perhaps, try the alternative installation CD?
[10:16] <jrtappers> devnull_, Synaptics Capabilities (300):   1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1
[10:16] <root_> hello
[10:17] <NeoColossus> How do you store the output of grep search to a variable when grep searches for a pattern (stored in a variable) against a file (also stored in a variable)? Ex: var1=`grep -iq "$var2" "$var3"`
[10:17] <zhaozhou> root_, You should probably try to not be root on IRC.
[10:17] <NeoColossus> When I try to echo $var1 back it shows empty
[10:18] <root_> my pictury
[10:18] <root_> 37.237.74.3:11841
[10:18] <root_> http://37.237.74.3:11841
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> NeoColossus  better ask in #bash
[10:19] <root_> http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol
[10:19] <NeoColossus> Ok
[10:19] <root_> ok
[10:19] <blim_> how do I go about setting the QoT on my client?
[10:19] <root_> yes
[10:19] <root_> pictury :  http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol
[10:19] <rohdef> where can I find an up to date list of wifi cards supported?
[10:19] <ctrlz> Hi, how can i rotate the webcam in skype? I see it upside down. Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd here
[10:20] <rohdef> I'm looking at a PCI-E card with the Atheros AR9287 chipset
[10:20] <rohdef> TP-Link
[10:20] <rohdef>  
[10:20] <rohdef> TP-Link TL-WN881ND to be exact
[10:20] <rohdef> opps, sorry for the newlines, didn't see them :/
[10:20] <zhaozhou> root_, A Java applet, huh? No way.
[10:21] <blami> NeoColossus: you can run it in subshell
[10:21] <blim_> Does anyone know a guide on how to set the ToS (type of service) on a client os?
[10:21] <root_> my sister img : http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol
[10:21] <root_> http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol
[10:22] <roadfish> got an unformatted 3TB segate in a Bytecc enclosure. both "fdisk -l" and palimpsest show _two_ devices. /dev/sdg is 2.2GB and /dev/sdh is 0.8GB. any idea why I'm not just getting 3.0GB on /dev/sdg?
[10:22] <root_> http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol
[10:22] <root_> http://37.237.74.3:8080/IZleol
[10:22] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[10:22] <blami> root_: could you stop this please?
[10:22] <llutz> !ops | root_  linkspam
[10:22] <root_> hahah
[10:23] <jrtappers> llutz, what does that do?
[10:23] <rohdef> roadfish, not sure that fdisk shows a drive without a partition table
[10:23] <barbadillo> hi all
[10:23] <barbadillo> I have a strange problem
[10:23] <llutz> jrtappers: just look at ubottus reply
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !details|barbadillo: state the issue
[10:23] <barbadillo> when I hit ctrl+F I get an xterm window
[10:23] <elky> llutz, did you click it? is it "safe" to check?
[10:23] <llutz> elky: why should i
[10:23] <barbadillo> in any application in any desxktop environment
[10:24] <elky> llutz, you don't need to, but i was wondering if you did, is all
[10:24] <barbadillo> it is annoying
[10:24] <jrtappers> llutz, does it give someone temporary permission to ban someone?
[10:24] <roadfish> rohdef:yeah, it does ... but you're sort-of-right because "fisk -l" says "Disk /dev/sdh doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[10:24] <elky> jrtappers, no, it gets our attention
[10:24] <barbadillo> ctrl+F is for searching stuff!!!
[10:24] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, but that's complete computers :/
[10:24] <jrtappers> elky, thanks, just learning IRC
[10:24] <SoWhat> #ubuntu-discuss seems dead. Maybe some of you know if UbuntuPhone is able to use A-GPS ?
[10:24] <llutz> jrtappers: it just gets OPs attenttion on the nick mentioned
[10:24] <barbadillo> I have to use the mouse and the menu
[10:25] <Helperhaps> fhnfg
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : sorry ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[10:25] <elky> jrtappers, it's not a normal irc feature, it's a special irc user we set up to respond to triggers
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-mobile|sowhat
[10:25] <barbadillo> thanks firefox for the slash, but the other applications they don't have the "/"
[10:25] <elky> jrtappers, and remember, it's for emergencies only :)
[10:25] <blami> Tex_Nick: wasn't he looking for wifi adapter?
[10:25] <llutz> elky:  a line as" <root_> my sister img : http://....   "   is sign for spam enough to me :) i hope you don't get this as "ops-misuse"
[10:25] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, and now for the wifi-cards :p
[10:26] <Helperhaps> what is that
[10:26] <devnull_> jrtappers, i missed before ... upgrade or fresh install and when
[10:26] <elky> llutz, sometimes it's nice to be able to tell providers if it's stuff that's... erm... illegal.
[10:26] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : jeeze i need to go to bed ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:27] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, I know the feeling :)
[10:27] <elky> turns out it needs plugins in firefox, so it's probably something pretty stupid ;)
[10:27] <llutz> elky: true but at least in DE its bit problematic with some sort of stuff (browser cache etc.) you know. so i tend not to click anywere
[10:27] <llutz> anywhere
[10:27] <blami> elky: he hosts java applet that tries to employ some sort of worm into browser cache using java zero day security issue
[10:28] <jrtappers> devnull_, wubi fresh install a while ago, 12.04.1
[10:28] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, thanks :)
[10:28] <jrtappers> root_ was probably using metasploit remove exploit
[10:28] <devnull_> jrtappers, so the right click just stopped working ?
[10:28] <jrtappers> devnull_, never worked
[10:28] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : after ten try's i finally got ya a link ;)
[10:28] <devnull_> it works in windows ?
[10:29] <elky> anyway, lets go back to as we were ;)
[10:29] <jrtappers> yh
[10:29] <jrtappers> devnull_, yh
[10:30] <SoWhat> cfhowlett: thanks!
[10:31] <cfhowlett> SoWhat: sorry it's not active channel.
[10:31] <jrtappers> devnull_, It was factory windows 7 so there may be drivers preinstalled
[10:31] <roadfish> here's something weird: palimpsest says that my 3TB USB enclosure is a "multipath device".
[10:31] <devnull_> mrec ... see if you can get tweak tool or ubuntu tweak and see if there is an option for show desktop icons
[10:32] <devnull_> jrtappers, drivers or not ... just want to make sure it isn't an actual hardware problem
[10:32] <jrtappers> devnull_, ok, its not hardware
[10:34] <jrtappers> How do I get a signal type from a USB 3G modem, i.e. EDGE/GPRS/HSPDA
[10:37] <Vivekananda> Hello Everyone. Am on ubuntu lucid on a comcast network. Can someone tell me how to check the TCP or UDP timeouts that is provided by my ISP?
[10:39] <devnull_> jrtappers, might need to map that button
[10:39] <jrtappers> devnull_, how?
[10:40] <zhaozhou> Vivekananda, ISPs provide TCP/UDP timeout values?
[10:40] <jrtappers> devnull_, The trackpad does continue over the buttons, so if I could map an area to rightclick that would work nicely
[10:41] <devnull_> oh ... so they aren't seperated physical buttons ?
[10:41] <blim_> Does anyone know a guide on how to set the ToS (type of service) on a client os?
[10:41] <zhaozhou> Visigoth, is /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time what you are looking for?
[10:43] <devnull_> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0" ... just need to find the file to add it to
[10:43] <kristu> hi
[10:43] <Scanjet0> hello?
[10:43] <kristu> hello
[10:43] <jrtappers> devnull_, see the computer on the right http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dm1-old-vs-new-touchpad.jpg
[10:43] <Scanjet0> this actually works, awesome
[10:43] <kristu> hello scanjet
[10:43] <jrtappers> The wonder of google images
[10:43] <cfhowlett> blim_: the folks at #ubuntu-server might know
[10:44] <izx> apt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF
[10:44] <devnull_> yea its just one big area ... that was what i was asking before .... just need to map those buttons
[10:44] <Scanjet0> You guys must know a lot about linux. Im still noobish.
[10:44] <Scanjet0> Could I ask some questions :P
[10:44] <jrtappers> We are all still learnind
[10:44] <jrtappers> *learning
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !ask|Scanjet0:
[10:44] <kristu> yes sk
[10:44] <kristu> ask
[10:44] <blim_> cfhowleft: thanks
[10:45] <Scanjet0> Awesome, Thanks!
[10:46] <Scanjet0> Uhm, Im doing a study on hacking, hence I picked linux to do my OS with. What would you say is the best method of detecting hackings in Linux?
[10:46] <Scanjet0> (as a kind of anti-measure, knowledge is power:P)
[10:46] <aeon-ltd> Scanjet0: your question didn't make sense
[10:46] <zhaozhou> Scanjet0, What type of 'hacking' are you looking for?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Scanjet0  how legal is that?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Scanjet0: penetration testing is a whole topic that is more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:46] <devnull_> jrtappers, try coping /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[10:46] <jrtappers> Scanjet0, Xarp is useful for detecting arp cache poisoning
[10:46] <Scanjet0> its legal, I have consent (im hacking myself)
[10:47] <Scanjet0> Xarp, I will google that right away!
[10:48] <jrtappers> devnull_,  then?
[10:50] <jrtappers> devnull_, what next?
[10:50] <devnull_> logout and back in
[10:50] <jrtappers> ok, il try
[10:50] <ctrlz> ctrl
[10:52] <jrtappers> devnull_, still rightclick makes a leftclick
[10:52] <izx> apt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF
[10:54] <devnull_> jrtappers, that file was placed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ folder
[10:54] <devnull_> see if this command returns anything synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea
[10:56] <devnull_> jrtappers, rename the file 10- instead of 50- at the beginning
[10:58] <Vivekananda> zhaozhou:I am using Voip overinternet and I read that ISPs cut the connections after a certain inactivity time. I might have understood this all wrong guide me to enlightenment
[10:59] <jrtappers> devnull_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491523/
[11:01] <devnull_> modify that file as so   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491529/
[11:01] <zhaozhou> Vivekananda, All right... might be true, I just haven't heard of such a thing.
[11:02] <kelvinella> When you select any of the menus in Nautilus they only display a very small blank rectangle under the menu item and do not open up into a sub-menu display.  how to fix?
[11:02] <devnull_> kelvinella, does this happen all the time or new problem
[11:03] <kelvinella> i never click the menu before until now
[11:03] <kelvinella> because i want to enable the status bar
[11:03] <devnull_> do other programs have functioning menus
[11:03] <kelvinella> other programs have no problem
[11:04] <Vivekananda> zhaozhou: I dont know if this is a setting provided by my router or ubuntu itself on my computer or something the ISP provides. I just know that my voip reregister time when set to 100 or 120 secs works and does not drop calls but when set to higher like 900(as is advised for TCP as it is supposed to have a higher timeout value???) causes calls to drop. Is this something I set in ubuntu or ask my ISP(comcast ) for ?
[11:05] <jrtappers> devnull_, that file currently reads http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491532/
[11:05] <jrtappers> before changes
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  try ##networking
[11:06] <Vivekananda> ok am going there :)
[11:06] <jabba_> hello
[11:06] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: is there something called #ubuntu networking
[11:06] <cfhowlett> jabba_: greetings.  FYI: Han shot first.  Poor Greedo.
[11:06] <devnull_> jrtappers, add this to that file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491534/
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda: there's #ubuntu-server ?
[11:07] <jrtappers> at the end?
[11:07] <devnull_> yea
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  type /msg alis list *network*
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  that is, with the asterisks
[11:08] <jabba_> i just setup a crypted partition (SR for a Xen-Server). and added it to the /etc/crypttab with the option "timeout=30". sadly the option seems to be ignored (as boot-process keeps going on) and i am not able to enter the passphrase at boot. anyone an idea what's wrong?
[11:09] <jrtappers> devnull_, thanks that worked perfectly
[11:09] <devnull_> mrec, how goes it
[11:09] <Vivekananda> I am using Voip overinternet and I read that ISPs cut the connections after a certain inactivity time. I might have understood this all wrong guide me to enlightenment. I dont know if this is a setting provided by my router or ubuntu itself on my computer or something the ISP provides. I just know that my voip reregister time when set to 100 or 120 secs works and does not drop calls but when set to higher like 900(as is advise
[11:09] <Vivekananda> d for TCP as it is supposed to have a higher timeout value???) causes calls to drop. Is this something I set in ubuntu or ask my ISP(comcast ) for ?
[11:09] <Vivekananda> sorry
[11:09] <Vivekananda> everyone
[11:09] <FloodBot1> Vivekananda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <jrtappers> one OS to rule them all, one OS to find them
[11:09] <devnull_> jrtappers, glad i it works ... might want to test out all the capabilities and make sure scrolling still works .... etc
[11:09] <kelvinella> so anyone have problem with nautilus menu?
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  which ubuntu version? what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[11:10] <devnull_> kelvinella, unity ?
[11:10] <jrtappers> devnull_, all good
[11:10] <kelvinella> ubuntu 12.04.1
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  is it Unity or some other DE?
[11:11] <devnull_> jrtappers, if you need to ever modify those regions  .. man 4 synaptic ... i believe
[11:11] <kelvinella> unity
[11:11] <devnull_> kelvinella, have you restarted unity yet ?
[11:12] <devnull_> had that type of issue with the gimp on my old laptop from time to time
[11:12] <kelvinella> what do u mean restart?
[11:12] <kelvinella> i am watching movie and webcaming i cant restart maybe later
[11:12] <devnull_> no not the whole computer ... just the window manager
[11:13] <devnull_> unity --replace
[11:14] <jabba_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/468208
[11:14] <jabba_> this bug is .... _old_
[11:14] <jrtappers> How do I find the serial port of a usb 3g modem for at commands
[11:14] <kelvinella> i restart leter
[11:16] <izx> apt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF
[11:16] <kelvinella> i will run that unity --replace command later because i am downloading a movie it doesnt support resume
[11:16] <kelvinella> i dont wanna breaks the download
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  is that ubuntu server?
[11:17] <jabba_> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:17] <jabba_> 12.04
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  then better ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:17] <jabba_> ok
[11:18] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust jabba_ sadly, #ubuntu-server is silent ...
[11:18] <absurdum_22_34> I used to have 15 desktops, and used the compiz wallpaper plugin to load a different wallpaper for each desktop.  That worked fine until I added more desktops and more wallpapers.  Each new wallpaper I add just shows up as a black screen.  Any ideas?
[11:20] <jabba_> cfhowlett: pretty... :(
[11:21] <cfhowlett> jabba_: sorry, mate.  wish I could help.  ##networking would seem to be your best bet ...
[11:21] <varikonniemi> i have a problem with multimonitor setup.. i have my secondary screen on the left side. even if i set in xserver setting my other screen to be the primary monitor, applications launch in the left screen'
[11:21] <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[11:21] <jrtappers> How do I get 3G modem signal with an AT command
[11:21] <LudwigVonMises> is there a channel for ubuntu phone?
[11:22] <varikonniemi> i must put my primary monitor logically on the left side to make it work, and then it is silly to go to the right edge of screen to acces monitor thats physically on left
[11:22] <LudwigVonMises> I am really excited for that
[11:22] <varikonniemi> any solutions to this?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> LudwigVonMises: none that I could find.  #ubuntu-mobile is shuttered...
[11:23] <atlef> varikonniemi, i think it is possible to fix this with compis-settings-manager, but not entirely sure
[11:23] <savio> is ubuntu-mobile available for sale
[11:23] <savio> worldwide?
[11:23] <LudwigVonMises> cfhowlett: Nevermind, ubuntu-phone
[11:24] <absurdum_22_34> I used to have 15 desktops, and used the compiz wallpaper plugin to load a different wallpaper for each desktop.  That worked fine until I added more desktops and more wallpapers.  Each new wallpaper I add just shows up as a black screen.  Any ideas?
[11:24] <varikonniemi> atlef, that program is scary
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> LudwigVonMises  some 50 people in #ubuntu-phone
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-phone savio
[11:24] <cfhowlett> savio: ask in #ubuntu-phone
[11:24] <atlef> varikonniemi, i know, to many settings
[11:24] <CookieM> it should be on sale at the end of this year
[11:25] <varikonniemi> its fun to fiddle around with, but not on a everyday computer
[11:25] <savio> cfhowlett, i just ask to see if anyone knows
[11:25] <varikonniemi> must be just a playbox/vm
[11:25] <LudwigVonMises> MonkeyDust: considering no ##, Im assuming its the legit channel
[11:25] <Xabster> i got help about 1.5 hours ago, about installing additional drivers (for my gfx card while booted up on a live cd - just to test that everything works) but i had to leave and didnt see the answer fully
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> LudwigVonMises  yes, it says: "If nobody is here use  http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/mobile"
[11:26] <Xabster> does anyone have a log maybe or know how i can install it? i cant find the additional drivers dialog/menu
[11:26] <jrtappers> Xabster, whats the status?
[11:26] <Xabster> i had a guest
[11:26] <Xabster> status is no progress
[11:26] <jrtappers> Xabster, go to dash, and search for "Add", you shoudl see additional drivers
[11:26] <Xabster> its not there, i tried
[11:26] <LudwigVonMises> MonkeyDust: Can't ubuntu mobile be refferring to the android app?
[11:27] <jrtappers> ok, the other way
[11:27] <atlef> Xabster, i think they suggested you install to a usb stick, not creating a "live USB" to test it out
[11:28] <Xabster> hmm, any idea of how much space is needed for that? the usb stick is 3.8 gb total
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> LudwigVonMises  yeah, but easiest would be to go and ask in #ubuntu-phone
[11:28] <Xabster> and some is used for the live cd boot stuff - i have no cd rom
[11:28] <jrtappers> Xabster, the easiest way to try ubuntu not on a live cd/usb is wubi
[11:28] <Xabster> wubi?
[11:28] <pablo__> olbap
[11:28] <cfhowlett> jrtappers: or virtualbox
[11:29] <Xabster> i did try virtualbox, but that doesnt answer the question of drivers
[11:29] <Xabster> since its vbox generic drivers
[11:29] <Xabster> i need to test that my real gfx driver actually works
[11:29] <atlef> cfhowlett, not if he needs to test if the driver for his gfx works, then vbox wont helpp
[11:29] <atlef> *help
[11:29] <jrtappers> thats why I said wub
[11:29] <jrtappers> Xabster, go to terminal
[11:30] <jrtappers> and type "jockey-gtk"
[11:30] <blim> how do i open the blacklist.conf and also how do I generate a list of audio interface so I can add to the blacklist my hdmi audio
[11:30] <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[11:30] <jrtappers> Xabster, did that work, you should see additional drivers
[11:31] <Xabster> should I install it, or just test if its installed? cause its not
[11:31] <Xabster> sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk right_
[11:31] <blim> I can open the blacklist file just need a command to list my audio interface names
[11:32] <Xabster> : Unable to locate package jockey-gtk
[11:32] <tonycoos> who
[11:32] <atlef> blim, try lspci in a terminal
[11:34] <jrtappers> Xabster, it should be already installed
[11:35] <wachpwnski> im getting some nasty kernel errors for my drive
[11:36] <Porkepix>  Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems. I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?
[11:36] <blim> that list my graphics card as a hole and not the hdmi sound, maybe I cant disable it this way
[11:37] <nibbler_> Porkepix: can you nopaste the output of the attempted build of the driver? what is the name of the driver?
[11:37] <atlef> blim, try lspci -v
[11:38] <Porkepix> nibbler_ : 1s, I'll directly connect to irc the right laptop, it'll be easier
[11:38] <theos> hey all! i plugged in my usb hdd and now i have no permissions on internal hdd partitions and files. what can be the solution?
[11:38] <blim> atlef: can i post the output of just the audio divice so you can see me what name I need to add to black list?
[11:39] <atlef> !pastebin | blim
[11:39] <atlef> though not sure i can help
[11:40] <theos> help!
[11:40] <Xabster> it told me though, that i could install it like that
[11:40] <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[11:40] <dr_willis> theos:  what FS is teh drive?
[11:40] <atlef> anyone else being disconnected from irc randomly?
[11:41] <theos> dr_willis fat32. i was trying to back up the data and format it to ext4 :/ but i dont have permissions now
[11:41] <Porkepix2> So, nibbler_, the driver is this one : http://www.dahetral.com/public-download
[11:41] <dr_willis> theos:  access it as root perhaps. or remount it with difernt options
[11:41] <rgms> &wc
[11:42] <nibbler_> theos: mount options to make it user owned, chown and chmod
[11:42] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: and here is the terminal log : http://privatepaste.com/5426f647d5
[11:42] <dr_willis> you normally dont chown/chmod ntf/vfat
[11:42] <jrtappers> Xabster, try it, it should be already installed
[11:42] <theos> nibbler_ the fstab file has the same options as before. i remounted both drives but no help
[11:43] <dr_willis> theos:  what does mount say about its options
[11:43] <theos> dr_willis how to check those?
[11:43] <dr_willis> use the mount command
[11:44] <theos> dr_willis rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000
[11:44] <ctrlz> Hi, how can i rotate the webcam in skype? I see it upside down. Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd here
[11:44] <dr_willis> theos:  now see what your users UID is.
[11:44] <theos> dr_willis 1000?
[11:44] <dr_willis> you sure?
[11:45] <theos> dr_willis how to check uid?
[11:45] <dr_willis>  echo $UID
[11:45] <Xabster> jrtappers: when i try it says not installed and that i can get it with sudo apt-get install etc
[11:45] <theos> dr_willis thanks. yes it is 1000
[11:45] <Xabster> copy/pasting the suggest command in terminal says not found
[11:46] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I can change $LANG in terminal to have full english messages, but differences are really small
[11:46] <dr_willis> theos:  can you access it via the terminal? cd to its mountmoint and do a ls -l, see who owns what files
[11:46] <blim> atlef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491588/plain/
[11:46] <BWMerlin> is there a way I can add source forge as a repository so I can apt-get projects straight from there?
[11:47] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i'm fine with the french(?) output... which package did you download?
[11:47] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: did you honour the first message this script is giving you? dkms_install_cp/symlink?
[11:47] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: the last, this one : http://www.dahetral.com/public-download/psmouse-alps-dst-1.2.tbz/view
[11:47] <theos> dr_willis all files are like this -> -rwxr-xr-x  1 myuser myuser
[11:47] <atlef> blim, i would think that 05:00.1 is the hw id of the hdmi, but not sure
[11:48] <theos> dr_willis maybe its not recognizing me as the user?
[11:48] <dr_willis> theos:  so you cant read or write there or what?
[11:49] <blim> atlef: would I need to add just [Radeon HD 6900 Series] to blacklist?
[11:49] <nibbler_> Porkepix2?
[11:49] <dr_willis> theos:  your user name is not 'myuser' ?
[11:49] <kylescottmcgill> Anyone had Automount setup with udev on ubuntu, or do they use something else like gfvs? (I dont have Nautalis, or thunar etc, i use ranger)
[11:49] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: the first one fail, the 2nd give nothing
[11:49] <theos> dr_willis i cant copy, paste etc. yes my user name is myuser
[11:49] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: nothing sounds good, did you do that before or after the paste you gave me? what error are you getting, nopaste pls
[11:50] <dr_willis> theos:  try with the shell. Not nautilus perhaps.. can you cd to where they are at and do a 'touch testfile' ?
[11:50] <atlef> blim, could you post complete output of lspci -v
[11:51] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I haven't done this before. I did this now and rerun the command after. So install_cp don't find a folder, and install_symlink change nothing. After this, "dkms_build_alps" faile the same way
[11:51] <theos> dr_willis i did. no output.
[11:52] <dr_willis> theos:  no error message? do a ls -l . see if  it worked
[11:52] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: full output of the _cp pls
[11:52] <kylescottmcgill> no one have any recomendations
[11:53] <kylescottmcgill> argh s[elling tonight is shocking
[11:53] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: http://privatepaste.com/53d5c860eb
[11:53] <theos> dr_willis yes the timestamp changed. no error on touch
[11:53] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: for sure, this dir doesn't exist
[11:54] <blim> atlef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491619/plain/
[11:54] <dr_willis> theos:  try editing a test file , see if you can make it. and sav3 changes.. Its almost sounding like its just nautilus having issues. Not the actual filesystem
[11:54] <theos> dr_willis i killed nautilus and now everything is fine. thanks
[11:54] <dr_willis> theos:  ;P
[11:54] <theos> dr_willis :D
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:54] <theos> but why would plugging in usb hdd mess up nautilus? o.0
[11:55] <cronus> Porkepix2
[11:55] <Porkepix2> cronus: yes ?
[11:55] <cronus> Porkepix2, sorry wrong click...
[11:55] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: well, it looks like the copy has already takin place, as you are no in /usr/src/psmouse-alps-dst-1.2
[11:55] <TvL2386> Hi guys, an ebtables question if you don't mind: I expected "ebtables -I OUTPUT -o eth0 -j DROP" to drop all ethernet frames that would leave through eth0... But when I ping this machine, it responds.... Which is what I did not expect
[11:56] <atlef> blim, this is the one you want to blacklist: snd-hda-intel
[11:57] <blim> thanks very much, I'll save what I've done for next time
[11:57] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: for my part, I guess all files are in place, and compilation fail for strange reason on a .o file :/
[11:57] <atlef> blim, np. hope it works
[11:58] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: does /var/lib/dkms/psmouse/alps-dst-1.2/build/make.log have any further info?
[12:00] <DoingMyHeadIn>  <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[12:00] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: that's part of what I just show you before : http://privatepaste.com/d5e21726ac
[12:00] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Hello, ¿who installed Dropbox in Ubuntustudio 11.04? i have a little problem, thank`s
[12:02] <nibbler_> Porkepix2:  BTN_TOOL_QUINTTAP was suggest 22. august 2011.... so my first guess is, your kernel is too old for that
[12:03] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: kernel 3.0, pre-installed ubuntu 11.10
[12:04] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i noteiced the 3.0 before - but still thought this makro might be a driver thing and not inherited from the kernel - but thats your problem. its about 4-finger-scroll-gestures
[12:04] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: so either update to a more recent ubuntu, or backport the code? ;-)
[12:04] <wachpwnski> How do I get the /dev/sdx of something liek this: disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD2002FAEX-007BA0_WD-WMAWP0422736
[12:04] <wachpwnski> ?
[12:04] <nibbler_> wachpwnski: sudo blkid
[12:05] <thecpaptain> Sup guys =). Anyone here able to help me with internet ID in Sweden (Nordea) on Ubuntu ?
[12:05] <wachpwnski> nibbler_:  that is not giving me anything useful
[12:05] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I can try to install a 12.04 or 12.10....but idk if it'll really help :/ Just want that my touchpad is recognized as....
[12:05] <wachpwnski> nibbler_:  unless that is the has?
[12:05] <vlt> wachpwnski: /dev/disk/by-id/* is usually a symlink to the actual device. `ls -l` should tell you.
[12:05] <wachpwnski> hash*
[12:06] <[Saint]> Is anyone able to give me any clues on why All Settings/Details/Graphics lists my graphics driver as "Unknown"? An how to find out what driver I'm actually using?
[12:06] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/ident?v=3.0;i=BTN_TOOL_QUINTTAP - if you click a more recent kernel, it suddenly is defined - this driver won't build with kernel 3.0, end of story
[12:07] <atlef> [Saint], try lspci -v in a terminal and look for it there
[12:07] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: Ok. So I'll check with more recent ubuntu or other linux. Beggining with 3.1 it's ok ?
[12:07] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i have no clue if this driver will help you in the end at all, but i do know that it wont build in unpatched 3.0 - ofc you could "just" patch it in, but depending on your skill level installing ubuntu 12.10 might be the easiest approach
[12:07] <thecpaptain> Internet-ID Sweden on Ubuntu. Gotten most things going, any ideas from anyone?
[12:08] <thecpaptain> or can you direct me to a Swedish chat-room maybe ?
[12:08] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: nope, was introduced in kernel 3.2
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> !se
[12:08] <thecpaptain> thanks
[12:08] <nibbler_> thecpaptain: what is internet id?
[12:08] <[Saint]> atlef: the card is definitely being detectyed, and it is in use, but I don't know what driver it is using :-S
[12:08] <[Saint]> It's an /old/ card, but it is supported (apparently).
[12:09] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: ok, thanks. I'll test this. In all cases, is there a way to complain at canonical, which have given a certification for ubuntu on a laptop.....which have an unrecognized touchpad ?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Porkepix2  or report a bug at launchpad
[12:10] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i dont know - maybe cononical certified it, as it is good suppored in recent ubuntu, but then dell shipped it with outdated ubuntu? i don't know - you want 12.10 anyway! :)
[12:10] <atlef> [Saint], did you try lspci -v in a terminal and look for it there
[12:10] <ashleyludlow> base could be installed with generic drivers for lan use, its been proven even in "unsupported" systems it works for lan..
[12:11] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: the laptop was shipped with a pre-installed ubuntu (11.10). I guess this is the minimum to have a fully functionnal system :/
[12:12] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: well - then again, did you install all the updates offered? 12.4/10 should have been offered..
[12:12] <[Saint]> atlef: yes, sorry, I wasn't very verbose there...it's some weird shit: "Kernel driver in use: unknown
[12:12] <[Saint]> 	Kernel modules: unknown
[12:12] <[Saint]> "
[12:12] <[Saint]> I'm not even sure how that is possible...but, that's what it gives me.
[12:12] <ashleyludlow> may i ask the whole issue plz?
[12:12] <atlef> [Saint], ah, then im not sure what to do
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !who | ashleyludlow
[12:13] <ashleyludlow> or a bug trker?
[12:13] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: nop, not atm.....very important internet connectivity issues atm....I'll need more than a week to download all
[12:14] <[Saint]> atlef: assuming it did list the driver in use there, but still displayed the driver as unknown via the settings...did you have a solution?
[12:14] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: well, i'd say you have a good shot that just installing latest ubuntu will solve your issues directly
[12:14] <atlef> [Saint], sorry
[12:14] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: if its new, just try to get your hands on a installer-cd
[12:14] <[Saint]> just wondering how far I should bother poking at this. I have working graphics, but am stuck with a 'standard' experience...which isn't so bad, but the card is plenty capable.
[12:15] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: not the basic one : I booted a 12.10 on live usb, same erratic behavior. But I haven't tried to compile driver on this one
[12:15] <atlef> [Saint], what gfx card is this
[12:16] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: if you have a live usb, this might be good for installing or even updating
[12:16] <thecpaptain> @nibbler: Internet ID in Sweden is a way for citizens to identify themselves on the internet in order to do stuff connected to government, banking and similar services that otherwise would require your ID
[12:17] <nibbler_> thecpaptain: ah, thanks.
[12:17] <atlef> [Saint], i dropped out
[12:17] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I'll check all this. In any cases, thanks for your help
[12:17] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: welcome, and best of luck
[12:17] <Porkepix2> ty
[12:18] <[Saint]> I guess the joke is on me for using an ATI card that isn't one of 'the elite few' with super-backflip-mega-booyah-ultra-support.
[12:19] <atlef> [Saint], damn amd :-)
[12:20] <[Saint]> Better than the embedded nvidia gfx chipset in my SO's laptop. I mean, at least I have working graphics and not a recipe for an epileptic fit. :)
[12:21] <[Saint]> That machine flickers the screen on/off at ~10Hz
[12:22] <atlef> [Saint], have you looked at bumblebee for the laptop? http://bumblebee-project.org/
[12:23] <cordoval> anyone can help me to repair my virtualbox?
[12:24] <atlef> !ask | cordoval
[12:24] <[Saint]> Virtualbox probably could.
[12:24] <KM0201> well, depends on the problem, is the problem virtual box, or an ubuntu install inside virtualbox...  asking questions 101.
[12:24] <cordoval> please Breaks existing package 'virtualbox-4.1' that conflict: 'virtualbox'. But the /home/cordoval/Desktop virtualbox-4.2_Ubuntupriceiseamd64.deb providers it via 'virtualbox'
[12:25] <[Saint]> atlef: I'm aware of the project, but this particular laptop doesn't use GPU switching.
[12:25] <cfhowlett> cordoval: is your system 64 bit?
[12:25] <[Saint]> thanks, though.
[12:25] <cordoval> yes
[12:25] <cordoval> cfhowlett:
[12:25] <atlef> [Saint], oh, sorry, sounded like it
[12:26] <[Saint]> atlef: No, it's just a *very* weird screen resolution...and the drivers I've tried with it all choke.
[12:27] <[Saint]> 2048x1584
[12:27] <[Saint]> #weirdresolutions
[12:27] <atlef> [Saint], i think it is possible to edit xorg.conf to get the right screenresolution
[12:29] <cordoval> please Breaks existing package 'virtualbox-4.1' that conflict: 'virtualbox'. But the /home/cordoval/Desktop virtualbox-4.2_Ubuntupriceiseamd64.deb providers it via 'virtualbox'
[12:29] <cordoval> anynoe has run into this?
[12:29] <cordoval> i guess if i remove it it can improve situation right?
[12:30] <cordoval> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/9918
[12:31] <Eagleman> Where is application data ussually stored?
[12:31] <[Saint]> atlef: ah, that didn't occur to me...creating an xorg.conf by hand was probably too much effort than I wanted to put into it at the time.
[12:31] <atlef> [Saint], more info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[12:32] <adamk> You can always try creating a mode for the resolution, without creating an xorg.conf file and restarting X, using 'xrandr'
[12:32] <cfhowlett> RE: dropbox.  I'm in China and can't access Dropbox's site directly.  Win7 works without problems, but I installed that before I arrived in China.  The final installation step of installing the dropbox daemon keeps timing out.  Suggestions/workarounds?
[12:33] <TakeItEZ> cfhowlett: tried using tor, vpn?
[12:34] <[Saint]> adamk: I think I might actually go the 'roll your own xorg.conf" route, as I might be able to kill two birds with one stone here and force it to use a specific video driver as well.
[12:34] <Elvinz> hello
[12:35] <adamk> [Saint]: Which is fine, but it's probably worth testing the modeline you are going to put in the xorg.conf file *first* :-)
[12:35] <Elvinz> is it possible to force unity to maximize all app at launch, so as not to have to click on the maximize button everytime ?
[12:35] <[Saint]> I will do, but at the present point, I couldn;t possibly make it any less usable I don't think :)
[12:36] <[Saint]> I have to ssh in, or risk an epileptic fit.
[12:37] <kylescottmcgill> Elvinz: i think it is but not inside Unity, it will be somewhere else that you set that
[12:38] <XATRIX> Hi guys, my server was rebooted suspiciously, how can i figure out, was it shut down by command, or power fault
[12:38] <Elvinz> kylescottmcgill, ok. As some application have a command line switch to enable the maximization, how do I edit the launcher ? For the terminal for example, I could add "--maximize"
[12:38] <jrib> Elvinz: try devilspie
[12:38] <jrib> Elvinz: there also may be some way in ccsm
[12:38] <jrib> !devilspie | Elvinz
[12:38] <nibbler_> XATRIX: log files
[12:38] <kylescottmcgill> You will need to find the corrosponding .desktop file
[12:39] <delphinas> hello;)
[12:39] <kylescottmcgill> try using locate <yourapp>.desktop
[12:39] <XATRIX> nibbler_: what should i look in log files for ?
[12:39] <kylescottmcgill> flac0x:  ^^
[12:39] <flac0x> kylescottmcgill, ?
[12:40] <kylescottmcgill> XATRIX: check the auth.log to see if someone sudo shutdown your box, if its not there, it might have been your host (if its hosted)
[12:40] <Elvinz> ok thank you. I have not used Ubuntu for a long time. I love the Unity interface, and have replaced two win 7 boxes since yesterday.
[12:40] <jrib> Elvinz: apparently, yes, you can also do it in ccsm.  Excuse the blogspam: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1110-updates-new-window-auto.html
[12:40] <cfhowlett> delphinas: greetings
[12:40] <delphinas> Do you still feel "lag" on Ubuntu under VirtualBox? Installed guest addons and vboxvideo
[12:40] <XATRIX> kylescottmcgill: it's a dedicaed server
[12:40] <kylescottmcgill> sorry flac0x i ment Elvinz
[12:40] <delphinas> it is better than it was
[12:40] <XATRIX> Don't think it's a host
[12:40] <delphinas> but still feels wrong somehow :D
[12:41] <flac0x> kylescottmcgill, ok
[12:43] <aslan> hi
[12:43] <delphinas> so anyone can run Ubutnu 12.10 on VB smoothly?
[12:43] <delphinas> aslan, hi
[12:44] <DoingMyHeadIn>  <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[12:47] <fidel_> hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)
[12:48] <Elvinz> is there a way to simply change all the system font size (default are a bit too big on my netbook) ?
[12:50] <[Saint]> Elvinz: System Settings - Universal Access - Text Size
[12:50] <kkkkjjjh> sal
[12:50] <kkkkjjjh> all
[12:53] <Elvinz> [Saint], thank you, but the font reduction is very important. Is there a way to select the font sizes ?
[12:54] <die> hello
[12:54] <[Saint]> Elvinz: not globally, no.
[12:54] <[Saint]> At least, not that I am aware of.
[12:55] <Elvinz> [Saint], ok thank you
[12:55] <[Saint]> You can do so on a per-application basis if the application allows this, otherwise the universal access menu is the only option I am aware of the change the font height 'globally'
[12:55] <[Saint]> You may have to configure each application individually if you need finer grained control.
[12:56] <Elvinz> [Saint] ok !
[12:57] <die> s salute you expect www.aynasohbet.com
[12:57] <mathnode> So...Shuttleworth talks a good game, but is anyone retailing Ubuntu tablets in the UK?
[12:58] <[Saint]> mathnode: before the OS is released?
[12:58] <[Saint]> If they are, I'll give them some serious credit...and, accuse them of being time lords.
[12:59] <mathnode> Oh I see
[12:59] <ea> Hello, I have accidentally formatted an ext3 filesystem with ext4 with during the ubuntu  12.04 LTS installation. Is there a way to recover this?
[12:59] <mathnode> [Saint]: I guess this is the closest/best for the time being? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-December/036230.html
[13:00] <[Saint]> mathnode: I /suppose/, in a way, some retailers *are* selling Ubuntu tablets.
[13:00] <ea> I assume the files should not be overwritten?
[13:00] <[Saint]> As you're perfectly capable of running a preview image on the Nexus 7.
[13:00] <mathnode> [Saint]: yeah sounds fine by me.
[13:01] <[Saint]> ea: your files are gone.
[13:01] <ea> [Saint], nothing was written in the filesystem
[13:01] <jrib> ea: try testdisk or foremost maybe
[13:01] <[Saint]> you said you formatted it. if there were files on there you needed...they are no longer there.
[13:02] <ea> jrib, thanks!!
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !recover > ea
[13:02] <Bieliq> hi guys i need help im beginner user of ubuntu and i need to install tar gz file how to do that without damn commands ??
[13:03] <jrib> Bieliq: what software are you installing?
[13:03] <Bieliq> i use ubuntu 12.04 and i want to isntall open office
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  with archive manager
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  libre office is in the repos, no need for a tar file
[13:03] <[Saint]> Isn't OO.o already a part of 12.04?
[13:04]  * [Saint] forgets
[13:04] <mathnode> Yeah it's just called Libre Office.
[13:04] <Bieliq> but libre office is open office ??
[13:04] <mathnode> Bieliq: Yes.
[13:04] <Bieliq> aaa thx guys
[13:04] <[Saint]> Yes. Same thing. Different name.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> and not from oracle
[13:05] <Bieliq> but if i need to install smth in future how to do that in simple way ? command line scares me in ubuntu
[13:05] <CookieM> openoffice belongs to oracle and is barely maintained
[13:05] <fidel_> hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  use synaptic or the software center
[13:05] <CookieM> libreo. is independent
[13:05] <[Saint]> Bieliq: if you need to install something, you'll likely find it in the official repo, so you can use a graphical package manager.
[13:05] <mathnode> Bieliq: Ubuntu Software Center?
[13:06] <[Saint]> thought "sudo apt-get install <package_name>" isn't all that intimidating after time.
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  commands give a lot more control over your ubuntu system, better get used to it
[13:06] <Bieliq> but in ubuntu are programs from repositories only and sometimes u can find smth in net for ubuntu in tar gz file so i just ask for future if i needed smth to install manually
[13:07] <[Saint]> *you *something
[13:07] <Bieliq> hm guess i will need to get used
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  use archive manager
[13:07] <Bieliq> in archive i can unpack right ? but then what to do next ?
[13:08] <mar77i> hello. running ubuntu with dual-monitor on RADEON, and the left screen keeps blinking ... wtf, I'm just seeing it's set to 59.9hz
[13:08] <[Saint]> That depends entirely on what it is you're installing.
[13:08] <mar77i> while the other screen is set to 60hz
[13:08] <mathnode> Bieliq: Unless it's commercial software, it's generally not worth it. Stick to the Ubuntu Software Center, and download .deb's for 32bit or 64bit.
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  start with the basics
[13:08] <Vivek> Hi, I am disabling ufw on my Ubuntu 12.04 server with ufw disable and update-rc.d -f ufw remove
[13:08] <jrib> Bieliq: it depends on the software.  tar.gz is like zip.  It's just a bunch of files.  Anything can be in there.  There's no one universal way to deal with software like that other than telling you to read its documentation.  Ideally you would instead find the software in the repositories or as a .deb for your ubuntu version.  If you can't and you aren't sure what to do, you can come here and ask for
[13:08] <jrib> assistance
[13:08] <Vivek> On restarting the server I am getting iptables rules when I do a iptables -L
[13:09] <TakeItEZ> Bieliq: most archives come with a README, you read after unpacking how to proceed
[13:09] <jrib> Vivek: yes, because ufw has started probably.
[13:09] <Bieliq> ok i wont trouble myself with that now, if i see smth i cant manage i will come ask, thx very much for help guys
[13:10] <Bieliq> have  a nice day
[13:10] <wdp> hey, is there a 3d graphics driver for a ati rs690 (radeon x1200)
[13:10] <wdp> ?
[13:10] <adamk> wdp: Yes, the open source driver that comes with Ubuntu.
[13:10] <adamk> That's the only driver available for that GPU on any modern distribution.
[13:11] <Vivek> jrib: ok
[13:11] <wdp> hm k.
[13:11] <Vivek> So how do I disable ufw permanently ?
[13:11] <mar77i> oh just noticed I'm calling xrandr anyway in the .xsession, will try setting --rate
[13:11] <jrib> Vivek: your update-rc.d is a no-op since ufw is started by upstart (/etc/init/ufw.conf).  I don't know much about ufw but I assume that just running "sudo ufw disable" would disable it in the future.  Have you checked its documentation?
[13:11] <wdp> is there some tool in ubuntu to set the brightness and contrast for a monitor?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Vivek  sudo ufw disable
[13:11] <wdp> i searched in the settings, but there's nothing like that
[13:11] <iceroot> Vivek: sudo ufw disable
[13:11] <Vivek> I already did a sudo ufw disable
[13:12] <Vivek> on reboot iptables -L shows rules again.
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Vivek  great, that's the way to do it
[13:12] <Vivek> MonkeyDust: It is not working
[13:12] <jrib> Vivek: and what's ufw status?
[13:12] <Vivek> After I do a ufw disable it is showing inactive
[13:12] <jrib> Vivek: and after you reboot...
[13:12] <Vivek> let me check the status after the reboot
[13:13] <Vivek> It is still inactive
[13:13] <Vivek> But I have iptables rules there....
[13:13] <jrib> Vivek: were there iptables rules before you rebooted?
[13:13] <Vivek> Yes
[13:13] <Vivek> Whatever was set by Ubuntu server 12.04 by default.
[13:13] <jrib> Vivek: there are no rules by default
[13:13] <Vivek> I did not set any riles.
[13:13] <jrib> Vivek: right, so you need to figure out where they are coming from if "ufw disable" isn't disabling them
[13:13] <TakeItEZ> Vivek: so you likely have an "iptables-restore" script somewhere
[13:14] <Vivek> ok
[13:14] <jrib> Vivek: did you install an official ubuntu image?
[13:14] <Vivek> Yes.
[13:14] <TStarkH> Hi
[13:14] <jrib> Vivek: what are the rules?
[13:14] <Vivek> TakeItEZ: What do you want me to do with the iptables-restore script ?
[13:15] <jrib> at least last time I checked, there were no rules by default.  Maybe that changed.
[13:15] <Vivek> jrib: brb, let me copy the rules.
[13:15] <blami> Vivek: pastebin them
[13:16] <blami> jrib: maybe he saved rules set by ufw I accidentaly did same thing once
[13:16] <TStarkH> I need assistance with video drivers. Can somebody help me?
[13:16] <TakeItEZ> Vivek: if ufw isn't running and restoring your rules, there seeem to be either a script using iptables-restore doing it or iptables-persistent
[13:16] <jrib> blami: oh
[13:17] <fidel_> hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)
[13:17] <wifi> hi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet
[13:20] <mmarc__2> hi guys! In Ubuntu - do we have any mailing list related to PPA questions?
[13:25] <tarzan> \join #grass
[13:26] <LudwigVonMises> tarzan: Welcome to #grass.
[13:26] <tarzan> :P
[13:26] <mathnode> Ubuntu, the stoners choice.
[13:27] <kesor> where can I find rsyslog 7.x packages for ubuntu lucid?
[13:27] <Transhumanist> mmmmm weed
[13:28] <LudwigVonMises> "Transhumanist: mmmmm weed" << figures
[13:28] <iceroot> !info rsyslog lucid
[13:28] <mathnode> I don't smoke weed, nor do I use Unity. But I imagine the combination must be quite psychadellic.
[13:28] <iceroot> kesor: hogher versions then 4.2.x only in ppas or backports
[13:28] <kesor> iceroot: couldn't find any ppas with 7.x :(
[13:29] <kesor> backports also only has version 5.x etc..
[13:29] <iceroot> kesor: and you need 7.x why?
[13:29] <iceroot> !info rsyslog precise
[13:30] <iceroot> !info rsyslog
[13:30] <iceroot> kesor: 5.x will be the highest you will find officially for ubuntu
[13:30] <iceroot> kesor: even 12.10 has 5.x
[13:30] <TStarkH> Is there a stable version of AMD drivers for ubuntu 12.10?
[13:30] <kesor> iceroot: i know, and my client unfortunately is still using mostly lucid on all the servers.
[13:31] <iceroot> kesor: and lucid has 5.x in backports, so what is the problem?
[13:31] <Vivek>  blami, TakeItEZ, jrib, MonkeyDust : http://fpaste.org/q8L4/
[13:31] <Pici> kesor: I only see rsyslog7 in debian experimental, which definitely hasn't been synced to any Ubuntus.
[13:31] <Vivek> That is what the I.P Tables rules look like after the server is rebooted after a ufw disable...
[13:31] <kesor> iceroot: it does? … pretty sure it doesnt
[13:31] <TakeItEZ> kesor: rsyslog.com has an ubuntu-repo, check it
[13:32] <iceroot> [14:29]     kesor | backports also only has version 5.x etc..
[13:32] <kesor> TakeItEZ: their repo only has the -devel and not the -stable version, and its for precise only.
[13:32] <iceroot> kesor: and why you need 7.x?
[13:32] <iceroot> kesor: because its newer?
[13:33] <TakeItEZ> kesor: i'd guess you have to build it yourself then
[13:33] <kesor> iceroot: no, because it has several bugs fixed in features I am using.
[13:33] <Vivek> TakeItEZ:  http://fpaste.org/q8L4/
[13:33] <kesor> the fun of building packages myself … always works, with the exception of core dumps and the code debugging you have to do to make sure the patches actually work … etc.
[13:33] <Vivek> sorry for reposting, thought you missed my post.
[13:34] <iceroot> kesor: the main problem is that debian is not using it anymore so the normal sync from debian will give the old-stable version
[13:34] <wifi> hi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet
[13:34] <kesor> iceroot: debian is not using rsyslog anymore? … don't they have it in experimental?
[13:34] <Vivek> That is the iptables rules that show up after the server reboot even after ufw disable is done.
[13:34] <iceroot> kesor: and if there is no good reason ubuntu will not build 7.x instead of the 5.x sync from debian
[13:34] <Pici> iceroot: version 7 is in debian experimental
[13:35] <kesor> iceroot: ubuntu is always behind debian now
[13:35] <kesor> ?
[13:35] <iceroot> kesor: no
[13:35] <kesor> iceroot: so I don't understand your argument
[13:35] <iceroot> Pici: ah ok my last info was it has an older version because it will be skipped
[13:36] <cordoval> solved it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092298
[13:36] <cordoval> thanks
[13:39] <iceroot> kesor: it was added some month ago in experimental. even sid has 5.x
[13:39] <kesor> how hard is it to backport debian experimental packages to lucid? all I know how to do is pull-debian-source rsyslog experimental ...
[13:39] <iceroot> kesor: and normally ubuntu is syncing from sid and not experimental
[13:40] <chemist^> hello everyone! I hope someone can help me solve my problem..... i'm using ubuntu 12.04 ... when i listen to music in any application and want to turn down the volume...when i change the Master volume with my keyboard, the sound of the music only slightly lowers it self.... almost no difference between 99% and 1% volume .... but when i mute it...it mutes the music too...
[13:40] <xetius> my gnome-terminal crashes when I try to access any of the menus, or do anything like opening a new tab.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[13:40] <chemist^> how can i set the key on my keyboard to change the volume of all the channels at the same time?
[13:40] <chemist^> so no matter what i do...when i press to lower the volume it actually lowers it...?
[13:40] <sw> !keys | chemist^
[13:41] <iceroot> kesor: for a quick testing, download the source-package, install the builddepbs and use "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"  or use the deb directly but mixing repos/packages is not supported here
[13:41] <chemist^> sw i know that
[13:41] <sw> chemist^ Then?
[13:41] <kesor> iceroot: "pull-debian-source rsyslog experimental ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" ?
[13:41] <chemist^> wait a sec
[13:42] <iceroot> kesor: you also need the builddeps
[13:42] <chemist^> sw the key does change the volume
[13:42] <chemist^> but the music is still loud
[13:42] <kesor> oh how I hate package building :(
[13:42] <chemist^> even if master output volume is 2%
[13:42] <jCuber> sw: chemist^ : I think whar chemist^ is trying to do is change the volume keybinds to change all of the channels at once
[13:42] <chemist^> yes
[13:42] <chemist^> sorry for my bad english
[13:43] <chemist^> it's a bit rusty :D
[13:43] <chemist^> i'll make an example
[13:44] <chemist^> I want to listen to an mp3...so i open it in VLC or amarok ... when i change the volume from 100% to 2% with my keyboard or with the mouse ... the music is only a little less loud then before
[13:44] <chemist^> almost no change in volume
[13:45] <chemist^> anyone? :)
[13:45] <iceroot> kesor: i would not do it if i look at the list of dependencies..initscripts.. which is pulling a lot of new stuff which is not in ubuntu yet
[13:45] <w3bg33k> anyone have issues with turnkey linux?
[13:46] <iceroot> kesor: there is a very good reason why 7.x is in experimental and not sid or anything else
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> chemist^  open a terminal and type alsamixer, see if you can change sth there
[13:46] <iceroot> w3bg33k: is that ubuntu related?
[13:46] <kesor> iceroot: can't I just install debian packages from experimental in lucid ubuntu and tell apt to ignore the various numbers and stuff?
[13:46] <w3bg33k> iceroot - yes
[13:46] <iceroot> kesor: dont do that
[13:47] <chemist^> MonkeyDust, i have already... the sound gets lower if i change the PCM volume
[13:48] <preds> will the pulse run by my user use values from /etc/pulse/ or do I need to copy files or something
[13:48] <chemist^> but how do i make my keyboard shortcut lower PCM instead of master...or even better both at the same time
[13:48] <preds> the sound quality is notably lacking and I'm trying to do something about it
[13:49] <xetius> tuesday
[13:52] <zibords> hi
[13:52] <chemist^> nothing can be done ;(
[13:53] <cfhowlett> zibords: greetings
[13:54] <zibords_> hi cfhowlett
[13:54] <wifi> hi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> wifi  only with wireless, or also with ethernet?
[13:55] <phaidros> 12.04 with dual monitor is dringing me crazy: mouse always hangs between the screens for a second before being able to move along .. any hints how to disable that?
[13:55] <phaidros> driving
[13:57] <kesor> what does it mean dh: Sorry, but 7 is the highest compatibility level supported by this debhelper. and can I safely ignore it?
[13:58] <rushboy> Hello I am working on some .cpp  and .hpp files . Can anyone let me know if we can #include such files in .src files ?
[13:59] <fidel_> rushboy: not really channelrelated question- maybe try asking in addition in a coding related channel
[13:59] <xetius> Anyone here able to help with a crashing gnome-terminal problem?
[13:59] <Pici> rushboy: ##c++ would be a far better place to ask
[14:00] <phaidros> k. got it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109338/how-do-i-disable-mouse-magnet-on-middle-edge-with-multi-monitors .. ccsm edge-stop..
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> xetius  let's hear it
[14:05] <xetius> MonkeyDust: ubuntu 12.10 and gnome 3.7.3.  When I access the menus on gnome-terminal, it just disappears, almost like closing it
[14:05] <xetius> no chance to enter a crash report or anything like that
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> xetius  the current version in 12.10 is 3.6 -- anything higher is not from the repos and not supported, i'm afraid
[14:06] <xetius> ok, fair enough.  thanks
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> xetius  why not simply use the version from the repos?
[14:07] <xetius> Actually, I can't remember how I got this.  Don't know how to roll back either
[14:08] <Natalia> ciao
[14:10] <Pip> So where to buy a ubuntu phone?
[14:11] <RixTox> not announced yet?
[14:11] <Pip> oh
[14:11] <fidel_> Pip: wait until they are available in the first place ;)
[14:11] <Pip> I wish they will release the ROM first so that I can burn into my phone
[14:11] <RixTox> it will be an Ubuntu generation
[14:12] <h00k> Pip: #ubuntu-discussion is the place where people are talking about that, if you want to head there
[14:12] <Pip> thanks
[14:12] <Pip> But that channel doesn't exist
[14:13] <RixTox> no one is there
[14:13] <DJones> !phone | Pip
[14:15] <T3X> i am running download 24/24, which make internet speed slower of other users on the net. is there any way to give priority to other users using bandwidth after they finish i back start using full bandwidth?
[14:15] <michele__> ciao
[14:16] <michele__> questo è il canale italiano?
[14:16] <atlef> !it
[14:17] <KnightEternal> hi.
[14:17] <KnightEternal> has anyone tried to install 12.10 quantal on a mk808 android stick?
[14:19] <pinkwaters> hmmmmm
[14:22] <drLization> Hi there, anybody here?
[14:22] <atlef> yes
[14:24] <drLization> I just downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.ISO
[14:24] <drLization> it's 753 MB, can this be burned on a 700 MB disk (80 MB)
[14:24] <drLization> it's 753 MB, can this be burned on a 700 MB disk (80 MB)?
[14:24] <drLization> oops sorry for double post
[14:24] <alien__> It is said that linux to drop i386 in the future. Really?
[14:25] <drLization> I think you need to "overburn" to do this, right? I just got vanila win7 home premium on this machine, can this overburn?
[14:25] <drLization> well, I think I shld be using google instead, sorry to bother you with this
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> alien__  yes and Thorvalds says "good riddance"
[14:26] <vexx> hi
[14:26] <drLization> got what I was looking for - http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/11/05/0333225/ubuntu-1204-lts-wont-fit-on-a-cd
[14:28] <vexx> someone knows warsow? game
[14:28] <drLization> vexx, I haven't played warsow since 2005
[14:29] <drLization> does it still have a big community? Does it run on ubuntu?
[14:29] <vexx> yes
[14:29] <ayoub022> yep
[14:30] <ayoub022> QUIT
[14:30] <ukebane> Maybe someone can help me with this, I'm trying to uninstall all the old versions of Java
[14:30] <ukebane> I uninstalled openjdk6 and 7 from the software center
[14:30] <drLization> I dop't want to waste a 4GB DVD on 750MB ubuntu ISO, can I download a 'bigger' ISO with more libraries on it somewhere?
[14:31] <ukebane> but java -version shows I still have java version 1.7.0_09 installed
[14:32] <iceroot> ukebane: does it show "oracle java"?
[14:32] <vexx>  drlization  You know that servers can continue to operate?
[14:32] <ukebane> it says openjdk
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> drLization  or use a usb stick
[14:33] <piglit> how can i see if i am using ipv4 or ipv6 ?
[14:34] <drLization> vexx: what do you mean? servers can continue to operate?
[14:34] <TakeItEZ> drLization: use usb or cd/dvd-rw media
[14:35] <drLization> good point,  MonkeyDust,
[14:35] <drLization> and others
[14:36] <ukebane> iceroot: my goal is to install oracle java 7 and use that, but the manual I'm following states I should remove old versions first
[14:37] <Bsims> I am running ubuntu in virtual box... any way to convert my virtualbox file to a live usb so I can run it in persistant mode?
[14:38] <T3X> what should i use to repeat the same command after finish executing?
[14:39] <Bsims> T3X: foo --options arg;foo --options arg
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> T3X  arrow up
[14:39] <Bsims> or arrow up lol
[14:39] <KnightEternal> or !!
[14:39] <kim__> watch
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> or ![pid]
[14:40] <atjehcyber> need ubuntu free cd whare i can get it
[14:40] <SnowmanX11> Was somebody able to run newest catalyst on ATI Radeon HD 6800M videocard? (Catalyst 12.10 or 12.11 Beta) I am interested on both Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and 12.10 too
[14:40] <T3X> MonkeyDust: that wil keep doing it automaticaly?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> atjehcyber  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[14:41] <DJones> atjehcyber: You can either download it and burn it to a dvd or usb stick, or you contact your local linux/ubuntu user group, they may have spare install dvd's
[14:41] <atjehcyber> MonkeyDust i know that, but before i have get free cd from ubuntu free
[14:41] <atjehcyber> but right now i not find it more
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> atjehcyber  ah, order cd's, you mean
[14:42] <DJones> atjehcyber: shipit stopped distributing cd's about 12 months ago from memory
[14:42] <MoL0ToV> someone  know how to put in a basketcase the hide cursor to scrool back a window and use classical theme cursor???
[14:43] <MoL0ToV> i'm so frustrated
[14:43] <ukebane> would removing java by removing all the locations stated in "whereis java" cause a lot of errors or is it a valid way to remove it?
[14:44] <Osakasa> SnowmanX11, i managed to install 12.11 beta for HD6000. running 12.04
[14:44] <Touhou11> ukebane: You should remove it using the package manager (assuming that's how you installed it)
[14:44] <T3X> what is the best torrent software for linux?
[14:45] <T3X> which i can use on Terminal
[14:45] <ukebane> Touhou11: I already removed the java's I could find in the package manager, but it still shows up and runs
[14:45] <Rismos> t3x: rtorrent
[14:45] <Osakasa> SnowmanX11, there is a stupid watermark bottom-right corner with block a view sometimes :(
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> T3X  deluge and transmission are nice
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> ah terminal
[14:45] <T3X> yep terminal
[14:45] <Rismos> t3x: keyboard shortcuts take some getting used to but it's a nice/simple/fast torrent client that runs in terminal
[14:45] <T3X> so GUI
[14:46] <MoL0ToV> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.soAborted (core dumped)
[14:46] <MoL0ToV>   so pretty!! :D howto fix?
[14:46] <Bsims> T3X: I beleve there is a cli version of transmission
[14:46] <TakeItEZ> T3X: rtorrent works fine, but there is no single best application. it always depends on your needs/whishes etc
[14:46] <lucido> herro, how can I make a bootable usb flashdrive from ubuntu that I can use to install winxp?
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> lucido  do you have an installable winxp iso?
[14:47] <lucido> MonkeyDust, I do
[14:47] <Touhou11> TakeItEZ: Negative, rTorrent is the best
[14:47] <Bsims> lucido: install lili or unetbootin
[14:48] <lucido> Bsims, tried unetbootinn, but when I boot up the flashdrive its stuck in the default option
[14:48] <Bsims> lucido: I dunno then sorry, but lili lets you select your own isos
[14:49] <Rismos> Bsims:  imagewriter in ubuntu
[14:50] <Bsims> Rismos: heh always another program
[14:50] <Rismos> :)
[14:50] <Rismos> i try :)
[14:50] <Rismos> i've had great luck with imagewriter
[14:50] <ukebane> Touhou11: there is now no more mention of java in ubuntu software center
[14:51] <ukebane> Touhou11: whereis java shows java in: java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[14:52] <wdp> how can i disabled that the file / edit / etc menu is at the top?
[14:52] <Touhou11> ukebane: Those might just be symbolic links, also unless you do a complete removal configuration files in /etc/ are always left behind after uninstalling
[14:52] <ukebane> Touhou11: running java -version still runs and shows me the version
[14:52] <wdp> s/disabled/disable
[14:52] <ukebane> Touhou11: which indicates the program is still there
[14:53] <Touhou11> ukebane: Have you searched for "jre", "jdk", "icedtea" etc. in the software centre? Or try synaptic/CLI to search instead, the software centre is not very powerful
[14:53] <ukebane> Touhou11: thanks I'll try that now
[14:57] <andrea_> did u guys ever heard of someone not being able to come back to work due to the fact that on the 1st of january its badge was no longer enabled?
[14:57] <andrea_> oops sorry wrong channel
[14:58] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sudo apt-cache search jre
[14:58] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sudo apt-cache search jre
[14:59] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: shows plenty
[15:00] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: you could pick one of them if you wanted to install another version of JRE
[15:00] <ukebane> I need JDK 7, the oracle one
[15:00] <kylescottmcgill> oh i see, try searching for JDK
[15:00] <kylescottmcgill> but vaguely i remember Ubuntu and Oracle having a fall out or something
[15:01] <kylescottmcgill> so i wouldnt be surprised if you had to add a PPA or Install manually
[15:01] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099496&highlight=jdk
[15:01] <dfgas> anyone here install ubuntu on their cr-48?
[15:01] <ukebane> but I'm having troubles removing the old version
[15:01] <ukebane> because I'm a nubcake basically
[15:01] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[15:02] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: you should be able to sudo apt-get remove java
[15:02] <Bsims> ukebane: try sudo apt-get purge java... that will remove any config files left over
[15:02] <kylescottmcgill> Bsims: +1
[15:02] <l057c0d3r> --purge
[15:03] <ukebane> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:03] <ukebane> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:03] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: use sudo
[15:03] <Bsims> ukebane: Ok close synaptic or software manager first
[15:03] <TommehM> Zenum, Good day.,.
[15:03] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: I did
[15:03] <Zenum> Gootentag
[15:03] <Bsims> and/or use sudo
[15:03] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: follow Bsims advice too
[15:04] <kylescottmcgill> that and software center if its open
[15:04] <ukebane> used sudo, had synaptic open
[15:04] <Zenum> TommehM: How are you?
[15:04] <ukebane> my bad
[15:04] <TommehM> What you up to?
[15:04] <Bsims> ukebane: heh at least it tells you what it thinks is wrong
[15:04] <Zenum> I'm installing my #archlinux server
[15:05] <TommehM> Zenum, #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <ukebane> Bsims: same error, not running anything besides weechat and two terminals
[15:06] <Zenum> ok TommehM
[15:06] <Bsims> ukebane: wierd... ya don't have an install or something on another terminal/virtual window do you
[15:06] <wdp> nvm. found out how.
[15:06] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: check htop or top
[15:06] <ukebane> Bsims: neg, just bash waiting for a command and this irc
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> you could try lsof | grep lock
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> or something
[15:07] <Bsims> yeah what kylescottmcgill said
[15:07] <ukebane> only kblockd
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> it should tell you which application is using the lock
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> and then you can pkill that bad boy
[15:08] <kylescottmcgill> dont forget to sudo pkill
[15:09] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: worst comes to worst, you could sudo service lightdm restart CAREFUL as this will log you out but it will kill most applications open or stalled etc
[15:09] <ukebane> I'll try that
[15:09] <ukebane> brb
[15:11] <kesor> I built a source package with dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa for rsyslog and all its dependencies, how do I test that the actual binary builds pass? I have pbuilder create, but can't understand how to use it
[15:11] <kylescottmcgill> argh, its like a sweltering 40 degrees atm, not used to this heat
[15:12] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: welcome back
[15:12] <jrib>  kesor now use pbuilder to build the package
[15:12] <jrib> !pbuilder | kesor
[15:12] <kesor> jrib: but how? it says the .dsc files are wrong
[15:12] <jrib> !packaging | kesor
[15:13] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: thanks
[15:13] <jrib> kesor: well, what exactly are you doing and what exactly is it saying (use a pastebin)?
[15:13] <kesor> ubuntu/debian packaging is too f complex … always takes me a whole day to build one package :(
[15:13] <MaximB> is it possible to  install Ubuntu on my Android Galaxy S2 device ? (seen the video, but not the "how to install")
[15:13] <Touhou11> kesor: You're doing something wrong, it shouldn't be difficult
[15:13] <apt-get_install> anyone here that can explain what "acpitz" in lm-senors is?
[15:13] <kylescottmcgill> MaximB: i think we would be a way away yet before its released
[15:14] <jrib> kesor: pbuilder is just a convenience so you don't pollute your environment and to verify you've really listed all the build-deps
[15:14] <MaximB> like 1-2 years ?
[15:14] <kesor> Touhou11: I'm trying to backport existing packages to lucid … and its extremely hard.
[15:14] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: ehh, I forgot the apt-get command
[15:14] <kylescottmcgill> nah i would say like 6 - 8 months before it starts popping up on how to compile and build etc
[15:14] <kesor> jrib: yep. just waiting for the error to pop again and I'll show you
[15:14] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sudo apt-cache search jdk
[15:14] <jrib> kesor: you know there's a tool for backporting too
[15:14] <kylescottmcgill> then sudo apt-get install <package>
[15:15] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: for purging it :P
[15:15] <kesor> jrib: really?
[15:15] <jrib> !backport | kesor
[15:15] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: I'm planning on installing it manually remember
[15:15] <MaximB> kylescottmcgill: the problem is that it won't support android apps.... and ubuntu isn't that major on itself to make developers program apps for it
[15:15] <kesor> jrib: i don't know all that much, I just waste lots of time building packages.
[15:15] <kylescottmcgill> sudo apt-get remove --purge jdk ?
[15:15] <jrib> kesor: well once you spend time doing it once, I don't see why it would take very long
[15:15] <ukebane> excellent, unable to locate package jdk
[15:15] <apt-get_install> kylescottmcgill: or sudo apt-get pruge jdk
[15:16] <kesor> jrib: what you just linked, it explains how to use the UI to open windows and stuff … wtf?
[15:16] <kylescottmcgill> MaximB: yeah they will be going through testing etc, its more an advertisement i would think
[15:16] <kesor> jrib: its not a tool, its just description how to add backports to apt sources.
[15:16] <MaximB> ok thanks....see you in 6-7 months :D ...just kidding
[15:16] <helmut_> hi
[15:17] <xBytez> hello helmut_.
[15:17] <apt-get_install> anyone here that can explain what "acpitz" in lm-senors is?
[15:17] <jrib> kesor: are you sure...?
[15:17] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sorry you were purging java wernt you, but you want jdk
[15:18] <kesor> jrib: yeah, pretty sure.
[15:18] <jrib> kesor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports linked from that page
[15:18] <kylescottmcgill> apt-get_install: im guessing its an abstraction layer for apci ?
[15:18] <jrib> kesor: but anyway, I usually do what you are doing (just grab the source from a later release, verify deps are satisfied, and rebuild)
[15:18] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: actually after restarting lightdm I have the latest version of oracle jdk it says
[15:19] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: (I tried to install that before finding the thread)
[15:19] <apt-get_install> kylescottmcgill: what?
[15:20] <jrib> kesor: can I ask why you are trying to get a later version of rsyslog anyway?
[15:20] <dfgas> can anyone help getting my cr-48 with the modifed bios to boot efi ubuntu 12.04
[15:20] <kesor> jrib: i need some of the fixed bugs that are available in the later versions.  I'm using this script to build it - https://gist.github.com/7b209dcb88754e2b539e
[15:20] <apt-get_install> dfgas: cant boot?
[15:21] <dfgas> apt-get_install, no :(
[15:21] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: nice, you did it all by yourself :)
[15:22] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i get boot partition not found
[15:22] <kylescottmcgill> apt-get_install: you know what apci is yeah?
[15:22] <alperkanat> hey all! i'm trying ubuntu maas on virtualbox. MAAS Server has 2 nics: 1 internet, 1 private network. All nodes also have 1 internet, 1 private network nic. How can i make PXE work with this setup?
[15:22] <apt-get_install> dfgas: what happens when u are trying to boot?
[15:22] <apt-get_install> black screen?
[15:22] <adam-33> Hello. Is it a fact that Ubuntu 12.10 employs an ephemeral key for the encryption of the swap file? What does it mean in practical terms?
[15:23] <kylescottmcgill> apt-get_install: apcitc is APCI Thermal Zone, its a daemon
[15:23] <jhsd> hello
[15:23] <kylescottmcgill> apcitz**
[15:23] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i get boot partition not found, no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[15:23] <hero616> dfas: I searched Cr-48 and got this: How to boot Ubuntu on a Cr-48-The Chromium Projects.
[15:23] <jhsd> I'm trying to install Ubuntu but I can't find any partitions on my system.
[15:23] <apt-get_install> kylescottmcgill: ah thanks
[15:24] <apt-get_install> many thanks :)
[15:24] <jhsd> I selected "Something Else" from the two options but I can't see any partitions. :/
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> jhsd  use gparted while running the live session
[15:25] <dfgas> hero616: seen that plenty of times, no help. thats if i want to use stock bios and dual boot chrome os and ubuntu
[15:25] <jhsd> When I open gParted, I can see an "unallocated partition"
[15:25] <OerHeks> alperkanat, this might be a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Desktop/PXE run that service on your private lan
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> jhsd  that's good, now create partition
[15:26] <jhsd> and I can't open it. It says i can't have a parition outisde the dsk
[15:26] <jhsd> I already have windows now. i am trying to dual boot, monkeydust
[15:26] <alperkanat> OerHeks: afaik maas already runs a DHCP server with PXE preconfigured
[15:26] <dfgas> apt-get_install: did you see my response?
[15:27] <adam-33> Can anybody help me regarding swap encrytion?
[15:28] <Lofde_> is there an alpha build of ubuntu for android i can download and install on my galaxy nexus :D?
[15:28] <veleno> hello. I'm searching for the URLs to use in the sources.list for a 10.10 Maverick distribution. the links I was using until now do not work anymore
[15:28] <apt-get_install> dfgas: does grub load?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> jhsd  i've never seen the error message you mention, can you show a screenshot? http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[15:29] <apt-get_install> dfgas: do u reach the grub prompt?
[15:29] <benkaiser> Lofde_: not atm
[15:29] <kylescottmcgill> they should setup a Ubuntu Mobile channel, its been pretty big news in here today
[15:29] <benkaiser> its #ubuntu-phone
[15:29] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[15:29] <Lofde_> is there a website to sign up benkaiser to become notified.. as a developer/alpha tester
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> veleno  maverick is !eol, no longer maintained or supported
[15:30] <K1rk|Work> Hey anyone ever get an unhandled page fault exception when running an MSI package with WINE?  I'm trying to install Dragon Naturally Speaking on Ubuntu 12.04 with WINE 1.5.20 and I'm getting this error...  http://binaryimpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/backtrace.txt
[15:30] <jrtappers_> can someone help me install the drivers for the Radeon HD 6310 plz
[15:30] <dfgas> apt-get_install: not at all
[15:30] <veleno> MonkeyDust: i don't want new packages, but just to be abler o install the old ones.. EoL means i can't get those any in case ?
[15:31] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: dosent jockey work?
[15:31] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, Nope :C
[15:31] <apt-get_install> dfgas: can u boot useing livecd?
[15:31] <apt-get_install> *usingh
[15:31] <apt-get_install> *using
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> veleno  maybe try this link http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:33] <veleno> MonkeyDust: that link provides the .iso files to download the images. it doesn't seem to offer a repository with the old maverick packages, does it ?
[15:33] <NeoColossus1020_> Is there a quick way to copy a file while renaming it and storing it in a different dir than the current dir?
[15:33] <dfgas> apt-get_install: yes and ubuntu installs just fine
[15:33] <RicCrouch> @jrtappers_ : Have you tried the "Additional Drivers" item in system settings?
[15:33] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: you mean in the gui?
[15:33] <apt-get_install> dfgas: but u cant boot?
[15:34] <NeoColossus1020_> jrib, in terminal.
[15:34] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: uh, just use cp
[15:34] <jrtappers_> tried the Additional drivers, it fails Log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492287/
[15:34] <apt-get_install> mikecmpbll: 64 or 32 bit?
[15:34] <dfgas> apt-get_install: when the install is done and goto reboot no
[15:34] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: cp oldfile newfile
[15:34] <mikecmpbll> 8bit
[15:34] <kylescottmcgill> im not looking to start a flame war, but in terms of generic widget based applets, is bash or lua faster? anyone have any experience with both?
[15:34] <NeoColossus1020_> But I also need it to mv to a different dir after it is renamed.
[15:34] <NeoColossus1020_> Can I pipe this?
[15:34] <apt-get_install> dfgas: so, after install, u go to rebbot, and then it doesnt srart?
[15:35] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: 32 or 64 bit?
[15:35] <jrtappers_> 32
[15:35] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: cp oldpath newpath
[15:35] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: try it...
[15:35] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: ah
[15:35] <K1rk|Work> My WINE question is now posted on the forums.  www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12435972
[15:35] <Touhou11> kylescottmcgill: I'd suspect Lua, and besides you would be a glutton for punishment trying to write more than a few lines in bash
[15:36] <NeoColossus1020_> jrib: So then: cp /this/file ~/this/tmp
[15:36] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, and the red no entry sign shows up after i try
[15:36] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: sure
[15:36] <F3Speech> trying to write/re-edit an init.d script to run a python app but when I 'start' it i get the error "/usr/bin/python already running." which it is as another daemon. Can anyone help me debug this problem.
[15:36] <kylescottmcgill> Touhou11: good point, i use Awesome WM, but have seen a bunch of bash scripts, so wondered which was... not better, but more suited to the job
[15:36] <kylescottmcgill> ty
[15:37] <jrtappers_> An eeror occured, please run package manager or apt-get to see what is wrong
[15:37] <dfgas> apt-get_install: correct
[15:37] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English see threre
[15:38] <Miebster1> what could cause dd to only copy the first 34 megs of a file and then stop?  No matter what I put in for ibs, bs, or skip, the output file is always the same length, and never as long as it should be
[15:38] <NeoColossus1020_> guessing it needs a specific argument
[15:38] <kylescottmcgill> Miebster1: your not running out of space are you?
[15:38] <TakeItEZ> Miebster1: dd if=foo of=bar bs=24M count=1
[15:38] <rumpe1> Miebster1, need more infos (command line?)
[15:39] <apt-get_install> dfgas: ok, have u tried installing grub via livecd and then install ubuntu?
[15:39] <apt-get_install> or, install ubuntu and then insall grub?
[15:39] <Miebster1> dd ibs=1M if=package.fw2 of=package.tar
[15:39] <Miebster1> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     93869480 Jan  3 09:29 package.fw2
[15:39] <Miebster1> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     34000896 Jan  3 09:37 package.tar
[15:39] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, beta or the other?
[15:40] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: try the syable one
[15:40] <dfgas> apt-get_install: no. idk how to do that
[15:40] <Miebster1> I'm ssh'd into a device, is there an easy way to check remaining space?
[15:40] <apt-get_install> *stable
[15:40] <adam-33> Can anybody help me regarding swap encrytion?
[15:40] <mmarc__2> Please, anyone: In Ubuntu - do we have any mailing list related to PPA questions??
[15:40] <kylescottmcgill> Miebster1: df -h
[15:40] <apt-get_install> dfgas: install ubuntu as usual, then boot up via live cd
[15:41] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, last time I tried this I had to purge it
[15:41] <dfgas> apt-get_install: already installed and on live cd right now
[15:41] <rumpe1> Miebster1, is there a reason why you only specify a custom blocksize for the input and not for the output?
[15:42] <apt-get_install> dfgas: okey, install grub2 uefi et_install, last time I tried this I had t
[15:42] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: okey, try the beta then
[15:42] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, think I did something wrong
[15:42] <kylescottmcgill> dfgas: are you dual booting, on an uefi motherboard, and what partition is your HDD in? GPT/MBR
[15:42] <Miebster1> rumpe1: becuase I will add skip=1, i'm just trying to trim off the first 340 bytes
[15:42] <jrtappers_> last time
[15:42] <Miebster1> yes I was running out of space
[15:42] <Miebster1> thanks guys :)
[15:42] <kylescottmcgill> Miebster1: :)
[15:43] <BluesKaj> adam-33, swap encrytion is optional not default afaik
[15:43] <apt-get_install> dfgas: opps, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[15:43] <benkaiser> Lofde_: I don't have a clue... They are apparently  releasing a galaxy nexus image in a week or so
[15:43] <BluesKaj> adam-33, encryption
[15:43] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, downloaded it, what now, I did it wrong last time
[15:43] <Lofde_> benkaiser, thanks
[15:43] <Miebster1> Is there an easier way to trim off some bytes at the beginning of a file?
[15:43] <NeoColossus1020_> cp -fs ~/dir/test ~/dir/tmp/test.bak seemed to work.
[15:44] <adam-33> BluesKaj, when it is activated, is it using ephemeral keys?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> adam-33, what are ephemeral keys ? :)
[15:44] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: erm, -s will make a symlink, not copy...
[15:44] <NeoColossus1020_> Right, I was wondering about that. How is it different?
[15:45] <dfgas> apt-get_install: ? i don't understand
[15:45] <xro> Hi, i use dynamips but i get CPU load = 200%... do you know the problem? is there a fix? i use 12.04
[15:45] <kylescottmcgill> NeoColossus1020_: Symlinks are basically shortcuts
[15:45] <kylescottmcgill> cp -rvf <old> <new>
[15:45] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: it's like a shortcut that points to the original file.  If you delete the original, you'll be left with a shortcut that points to nothing :)
[15:45] <jrib> you just need cp old new
[15:45] <NeoColossus1020_> If you make edits to the original, does it effect the symlink?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> xro  dynamips is a Cisco thingy... server?
[15:45] <adam-33> BluesKaj, as far as I know, they are alive only for a session and the next time you turn on the machine, there will be a new key.
[15:45] <apt-get_install> dfgas: u must build and install grub 2 (u)efi
[15:46] <xro> MonkeyDust, yes it is used by gsn3 (network simulator)
[15:46] <apt-get_install> dfgas: just do as the site says
[15:46] <dfgas> apt-get_install: oh i need download grub2 source?
[15:46] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: the symlink just points to the original file.  If you make edits to the original file, then the symlink points at your file (with the edits of course)
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> xro  #ubuntu-server
[15:46] <apt-get_install> dfgas: yea
[15:47] <apt-get_install> and install it
[15:47] <apt-get_install> manually
[15:47] <BluesKaj> adam-33, no idea , I didn't even know encrypting the swap partition or the data held there was someting to be concerned about
[15:47] <NeoColossus1020_> Okay yeah, definitely don't want that then. I want to be able to to store the original as a backup and then make edits to the one copied from, having the original to go back to when needed.
[15:47] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i should be chrooted into my install right when i do this?
[15:47] <xro> MonkeyDust, why? i use it in a "normal" ubuntu distro... not a server one
[15:47] <sachael> anyone know of a civilized way of streaming radio streams in console, apart from mplayer?
[15:48] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: cp old new
[15:48] <kylescottmcgill> BluesKaj: normally you wouldnt really encrypt it, you would leave the parition RAW, so its faster to read and write, in the GOVT everything has to be encrypted, but you could retreive stuff out of swap if your uber
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> xro  i asked "server?", you said yes... nvm the other channel then
[15:48] <Touhou11> sachael: VLC has a CLI
[15:48] <jrib> sachael: what's wrong with mplayer?
[15:48] <ivotkl> Hello. =)
[15:48] <jrtappers_> how can I fix apt get, I have an "unmet dependency" that wont install and so its all stuck?
[15:48] <jrib> jrtappers_: you need to pastebin your command and full output
[15:49] <apt-get_install> dfgas: i think so. never installed grub 2 manually before
[15:49] <kylescottmcgill> sachael: you could pipe something to your /dev/speakers but that would be a mission, i would just use mplayer, or something else like cmus or something
[15:49] <xro> MonkeyDust, ohhh i did not understand "...server?"   so, my answer is no. not server :P
[15:49] <apt-get_install> dfgas: chrooted into / should be a good idea
[15:50] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i did install grub-efi and did a grub-install and it found everything and looked like it installed but same thing, no boot partition found
[15:50] <haole> hey there... I want to create a package with checkinstall but not to install it (I don't want to give all those scripts super-user privileges), but using --install=no doesn't work... what can I do?
[15:50] <Peanut> Hi folks - I'm trying to do an automated install of a number of nodes using 'preseed'. Despite specifying language, country and locale in the preseed file, the installation still prompts me for a locale. I'm using the example on the Ubuntu site, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[15:50] <BluesKaj> kylescottmcgill, so wouldn't using an encrypted drive cover the defintion of encrypted data stored in swap /
[15:50] <apt-get_install> dfgas: chrooted?
[15:50] <dfgas> apt-get_install: yup
[15:51] <kylescottmcgill> BluesKaj: using an Encrypted Drive yes, but normally only partitions are encrypted (normally)
[15:51] <apt-get_install> dfgas: strange... configured grub?
[15:51] <jrtappers_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492332/
[15:51] <apt-get_install> dfgas:  see http://askubuntu.com/questions/143347/grub2-efi-where-is-my-efi-partition
[15:51] <dfgas> apt-get_install: it said it did
[15:51] <dfgas> maybe i am missing something
[15:51] <dfgas> i messed with boot flags and nothing either
[15:52] <kylescottmcgill> dfgas: where did you install grub? /dev/sda pr /dev/sda1 etc?
[15:52] <kylescottmcgill> on EFI boards, you need a /boot/efi partition
[15:52] <adam-33> kylescottmcgill, are you familiar with ephemeral keys?
[15:52] <kylescottmcgill> adam-33: barely, whats the issue your having?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> thank God I'm an ordinary home user withot the need for "on the job" dificulties like dealing with govt data rules :)
[16:05] <Pici> sorry
[16:05] <OerHeks> be op first ;-)
[16:05] <jrtappers_> gir
[16:05] <jrtappers_> sorry, typpo
[16:06] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: ok, thanks. I'll write it down and try it next time I have the problem.
[16:06] <kylescottmcgill> lol, what were you trying to say?
[16:07] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: btw, do you have a technical explanation of this error? I'm curious what's going on
[16:07] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: good luck :) there should be a better fix unless your using the b43 drivers for a broadcom wifi adapter
[16:08] <BobMarley> hello, i am using the touchpad, when i click on something with the left click t is clicking 2 times, when i drag the gmaps, i can hardly do that, when i try to select a text somewhere with the left click and draging the touchpad i am also not able to do that, so what is happening? i was able to do that a few days ago
[16:09] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: that error message looks like it has found another device listed on the same 'descriptor' and then it retries and it manages to fix it, because the dmesg time is close to boot up, i would say you have a conflict of drivers, so you should do some more digging and blacklist a kernal mod, generally for the time being restarting the network daemon should get you going again
[16:10] <wasutton3> does anyone know if i'll be able to download the ubuntu phone os to emulate and tinker with?
[16:10] <kylescottmcgill> BobMarley: sounds like your sensitivity is too high, you should be able to configure this in your mouse settings, and enable disable multi-touch
[16:11] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: I see. I don't understand why there should be several drivers doing the same thing. it would make sense for ubuntu to only pack the right driver
[16:11] <bp0> I have a problem that I need help describing: In Ubuntu 12.04, if I turn bluetooth off and then wait until the display turns off/locks bluetooth cant be turned on again without restarting
[16:12] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: btw, when I run lshw -C network, brcmsmac is listed as the name of the wireless driver
[16:12] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: I have a Macbook with Ubuntu installed on it, and it tries to use the open source drivers, and then the closed source ones, so i have to black list the closed source ones, this is more or less a typical scenario of the kernal thinks it knows the correct ones, but in the end they dont work, so i have to pick the ones that do
[16:12] <kylescottmcgill> isnt brcmsmac no longer supported?
[16:12] <kylescottmcgill> what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:13] <BobMarley> kylescottmcgill, thanks
[16:13] <hamstermNICK> ban hime
[16:15] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: 11.10
[16:15] <hamstermNICK> nn upagrdePRIVMSG #ubuntu :nn upagrde
[16:15] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: ok, im on 12.10, and in the docs for the mactel support, it has those drivers as being old
[16:17] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: I see. I'm reluctant to dig too deep in this driver thing, because I've had problems with the wireless in the past and only upgrading ubuntu made them go away
[16:17] <bahamas> more or less. currently, they're pretty rare
[16:17] <WeThePeople> how do i kill more that 1 proc at once>>> kill 1987 1986 1982 ???
[16:18] <TakeItEZ> WeThePeople: exactly
[16:22] <disdi> hi
[16:23] <hellslinger> ugg... does anyone know how to get "Blur Windows" back to the list of effects in CompizConfig?
[16:23] <sigma> hi guys
[16:23] <symaxian> Looking to keep one or more encrypted text files, is there an editor that will handle that in the background, if not whats the easiest way to decrypt, edit, and encrypt
[16:24] <disdi> hhhhhh
[16:24] <kylescottmcgill> symaxian: LibreOffice *might* do that, but apart from that i dont know sorry, someone else might
[16:24] <symaxian> hm, hadnt thought of libreoffice
[16:26] <jrtappers_> symaxian, Truecrypt?
[16:27] <symaxian> k, I'll check it out
[16:27] <drdoom> hi!!
[16:28] <symaxian> An old friend had a program that hid/showed a terminal window from the top of the screen, what was that?
[16:28] <AndreUbuntu> can anybody help me get my integrated webcam to work in Ubuntu 12.10.....Cheese gives a black image, so does skype.....and gstreamer-properties (which detects my HP Truevision HD cam) says [Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Failed trying to get video frames from device "/dev/video0"]
[16:28] <cande> hi guys..
[16:28] <disdi> hi ]
[16:29] <drdoom> @symaxizn i think you ran it by typing "yakuake"
[16:29] <AndreUbuntu> symaxian, guake
[16:29] <symaxian> thanks
[16:29] <nocturius> hi, is there a way to setup LUKS encryption with the 12.10 installer while defining your own partition setup?
[16:29] <disdi> hmmm
[16:29] <nocturius> i chose 12.10 because it provided out-of-the-box encryption, but i want to multi-boot
[16:29] <user_> ciao
[16:29] <cande> i have a question regarding kernel panik during install
[16:29] <cande> where can i find information about this?
[16:30] <drdoom> How can i install python3 with python2 without breaking anything on ubuntu 12.4 LTS.I need (default)python2 for all my stuff and python3 for simple task only
[16:30] <atlef> AndreUbuntu, try luvcview
[16:31] <kylescottmcgill> cande: whats the error message of the panic?
[16:31] <drdoom> How can i install python3 with python2 without breaking anything on ubuntu 12.4 LTS.I need (default)python2 for all my stuff and python3 for simple task only
[16:31] <AndreUbuntu> atlef, luvcview also finds the device, but gives ERROR opening V4L interface: No such file or directory
[16:31] <Pici> drdoom: just install the python3 package.
[16:31] <Sazpaimon> Can someone give me some bash code to help determine the next block device? I'm trying to programmatically attach EC2 EBS volumes
[16:31] <atlef> AndreUbuntu, ah, then i dont know
[16:32] <drdoom> i will but i am afraid it will become default package
[16:32] <cande> kylescottmcgill,  Hardware Error: cpu 3: Machine check exception: 5 Bank 6
[16:32] <Pici> drdoom: it won't.
[16:32] <AndreUbuntu> thanks anyway atlef
[16:32] <Sazpaimon> so for example, if the current last block device is /dev/xvda1, the next should be /dev/xvda2, then xvda3..xvda15, then xvdb1, xvdb2, etc
[16:32] <ZenMasta> hey guys, I just tried to repurpose an old hp, the install seemed to go just fine from the live cd as well as first boot, but then 2nd boot and others I cant boot and I get this error ubuntu drm_crtc_helper_set_config *ERROR* failed to set mod on [CRTC:10]
[16:32] <drdoom> ok thanks i am going to install it
[16:32] <kylescottmcgill> cande: what CPU do you have?
[16:33] <robertoaaaa> ciao
[16:33] <cande> kylescottmcgill, intel core i5
[16:33] <robertoaaaa> !lista
[16:33] <mmonat> coming call ran over
[16:33] <robertoaaaa> !list
[16:33] <ZenMasta> so, frustrated I left it a lone for a couple weeks and just now tried booting up, I got a console but no errors, I tried to startx but its only shown the desktop background for the last 5 minutes :(
[16:34] <cande> okej, now the installation worked for once
[16:36] <sozirarak> hello, which version of ubuntu do you suggest to install in philips freevents x50gr notebook?
[16:36] <kylescottmcgill> cande: from what i have read, its your CPU 3 over heating, you should install a fan controller as soon as its all set up, what kind of laptop or desktop are you using?
[16:36] <robertoaaaa> !
[16:36] <robertoaaaa> ciao
[16:36] <robertoaaaa> !lista
[16:37] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[16:37] <cande> kylescottmcgill,  Samsung series 9 NP900X3C-A01SE
[16:38] <cande> SE as in swedish
[16:39] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill 12.10
[16:41] <kylescottmcgill> cande: if you have future problems search Google for Series 9 Overheating, there are lots of posts of people experiencing fan control issues
[16:41] <cande> kylescottmcgill, thanx, will do that
[16:42] <Steve132> I'm having trouble getting a floppy drive to work.  Anyone have any experience with that?
[16:42] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: can you jump back into TTY1 and cat .xsession-errors
[16:42] <ZenMasta> Interesting thing just happened. As I mentioned, it had seemed to hault tryin g to load the desktop so I pressed the power button hoping it would do a graceful shutdown. but instead it brought me back to a terminal
[16:42] <Steve132> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10
[16:42] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill ok brb have to walk over to that computer
[16:42] <kylescottmcgill> kk
[16:43] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: sudo dmesg might give you some more hints as to what is happening too, but by the sounds of it you need to install some GFX drivers, or something
[16:44] <ich> oh
[16:44] <kylescottmcgill> If lightdm (login screen works) but nothing after that it might be something else, xsession-errors should give you an idea of whats going wrong
[16:44] <kylescottmcgill> also sudo service lightdm restart can help sometimes
[16:47] <christine_> hi i have ubuntu 12.04 and i need the patch for preciswe
[16:47] <christine_> pricision
[16:48] <kylescottmcgill> precise?
[16:48] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill there was a lot scrolling on screen really fast
[16:48] <ZenMasta> I'm gonna install open ssh so I dont have to keep running back and forth
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: sounds like your xsession doesnt like you, so it could be a couple of things, but if you less .xsession-errors you can scroll through it
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: before you go
[16:49] <lessshaste> how do you get chromium to open word attachments using libreoffice and not abiword?
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: rm .xsessions-errors ; sudo service lightdm restart
[16:49] <christine_> hi can anyone help me with a patch for precision ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> then try login, wait for it to stall
[16:50] <ZenMasta> okay Ill try that
[16:50] <kylescottmcgill> jump into TTY1 and less .xsession-errors and you will have fresh errors to look at, at the very top it should say something that went wrong
[16:50] <kylescottmcgill> and give us something to google
[16:50] <AndreUbuntu> Anybody can help with: gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Failed trying to get video frames from device "/dev/video0"
[16:50] <rhinux> Hi all! I have a ubuntu 12.10 and can't login anymore, worked long time w/o probs. After entering Password in GUI Login, short blinking into textmode (bit cant read anything) and back to Login, _without_ error msg "wrong PW"  or something else. I can login via Alt-Ctrl-F1 to textconsole, but in which log file should I search for understand the problem and repair it?
[16:51] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: you have to change the mime / default file associations, inside System Settings under Details there will be a default Applications menu
[16:51] <Steve132> I try putting any disk in my floppy drive, and it says "input/output error" when I navigate to /media/floppy and run ls
[16:51] <Dj_FlyBy> would it be wise/easy to "upgrade" a media/web server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS through the "Update Manager" ?
[16:51] <rsser> ae, does it take long time to release ubuntu mobile? I saw the Mark Shuthland talking about ubuntu mobile
[16:51] <kylescottmcgill> Steve132: LOL really?
[16:51] <kylescottmcgill> a floppy disk :D
[16:51] <skulltip> i purchased legend of grimrock through the ubuntu store. when i install the next version of ubuntu, will it see i already purchased it in 12.04?
[16:52] <yugnip> lessshaste, you can right-click a word type file and choose "open with" and choose libreoffice rather than abiword
[16:52] <rsser> Sutherland*
[16:52] <lessshaste> yugnip, you can't sadly in gmail
[16:52] <yugnip> you click that file once it's downloaded
[16:52] <Steve132> kyelescottmcgill: yep
[16:52] <lessshaste> yugnip, it seems that ubuntu is set to open that type of file with abiword
[16:52] <lessshaste> yugnip, sure but I would like the default app not to be abiword
[16:53] <kylescottmcgill> rhinux: ~/.xsession-errors will have most of your X Server errors, thats a good place to start
[16:53] <yugnip> when you right click you have the option to set as default
[16:53] <Steve132> If I open /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules like http://www.securitybeacon.com/?p=1110 suggests, I see something else completely, something about disabling ide devices and floppies
[16:53] <yugnip> lessshaste, the option for default is there, just check the box
[16:53] <jrtappers> Can someone help, I rebooted after some commands and i've lost unity
[16:54] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: what were the commands?
[16:54] <lessshaste> yugnip, there isn't one.. I am in lubuntu which may make a difference
[16:54] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: sudo apt-get install unity will reinstall it
[16:54] <disdi> KICK _IRON
[16:54] <disdi> kick _iron
[16:54] <rhinux> @Steve132 cooool! I still have some old 3 1/2" Disks and the older 5 1/4" are gone. my old drive crashed, so I cant read the old data anymore :(
[16:54] <Steve132> kylescottmcgill: My parents have a new computer, but the mobo has a floppy connection, we have old floppy drives lying around, and my family has years of old backups of stuff archived on floppy disk from the 90s
[16:55] <yugnip> lessshaste, should not matter, there should be a box when you choose open with that says use as default
[16:55] <Steve132> that they never got rid of
[16:55] <Pici> disdi: can we help you?
[16:55] <disdi> i am learning irc
[16:55] <Steve132> soo...it seems appropriate to make sure their new ubuntu machine has a working floppy drive so they can recover all those old memories..
[16:55] <kylescottmcgill> Steve132: fair enough, as for mounting your Floppy Disk, im sorry i havnt used floppy on linux before, someone else might be able to help sorry :)
[16:55] <disdi> sry to offend anyone
[16:55] <yugnip> lessshaste, should not be different with thunar as opposed to nautilus
[16:55] <Steve132> ok
[16:55] <Pici> disdi: learn in your own channel please, #ubuntu is busy enough as it is.
[16:56] <nearst> hii
[16:56] <lessshaste> yugnip, ok.. thanks
[16:56] <Dj_FlyBy> would it be wise/easy/safe to "upgrade" a media/web server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS through the "Update Manager" ?
[16:56] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: was the Default options not in System Settings -> Details? alternatively you could sudo apt-get remove abiword
[16:57] <fogus> How do I find out what user bind9 is being started as by "service"?
[16:57] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: is this a production server? eg are you hosting other peoples stuff on it?
[16:57] <home-horim> hi, i'm on ubuntu and looking for a dvd burnung program that allows spanning over multiple disks
[16:58] <Dj_FlyBy> kylescottmcgill: Production yes, but all the sites are my own. so a little downtime isn't so bad if it happens.
[16:58] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, systems setings doesn't have details
[16:58] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: i would back it up and sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:58] <yugnip> lessshaste, see my screenshot and not where the cursor is http://imgur.com/dksGg
[16:58] <qhartman> fogus, as root or with sudo do "ps aux | grep bind" it will tell you what user is running the process.
[16:59] <kylescottmcgill> but fresh installs are always preferred (at least in my opinion)
[16:59] <qhartman> fogus, You can also look in the init scripts, it should be listed there.
[16:59] <RollinV2> anyone here have ubuntu running on the c7 chromebook? i have a few performance questions
[17:00] <Dj_FlyBy> kylescottmcgill: what would be the critical things to backup? I am assuming it won't delete my data... or is that wrong to assume
[17:00] <home-horim> hey, do you know any?
[17:00] <fogus> So, I'll go the init route.
[17:00] <home-horim> i can't burn the regular way
[17:00] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: oh right sorry :) you could try something on here : http://www.howtogeek.com/117709/how-to-change-your-default-applications-on-ubuntu-4-ways/
[17:00] <nearst> whats up
[17:01] <lessshaste> yugnip, I am looking at it
[17:01] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, I think its an X11 problem KDE is broken aswell
[17:01] <home-horim> do you know where can i get help with a burning software that allows spaning?\
[17:01] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: i wouldnt think it would either, it would be safe to assume that your user data is safe, but i would back up your sites, mysql (if you use it) and your apache host file(s)
[17:02] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill,  I have screenlets , wallpaper and desktop icons
[17:02] <WeThePeople> when i drag and drop a icon from /usr/share/applications the icon doesnt show up on my desktop..??
[17:02] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: did it go into Fallback mode?
[17:02] <jrtappers> I don't know
[17:02] <jrtappers> I can run terminal and xchat
[17:03] <jrtappers> so how can I fix this problem?
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> hmmm, wierd... thats all you need? isnt it :)
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> if Unity wont install i would check your .desktop files
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> hang on i will find the path
[17:03] <atlef> home-horim, there is diskspan,
[17:03] <philinux> home-horim: i think k3b can do it not sure about brasero
[17:03] <fogus> qhartman: where in the init script is the username?  I see that "bind" is mentioned, so I changed the ownership to bind:bind, but that didn't help.
[17:03] <jrtappers> no, unity is installed, just not working
[17:03] <jrtappers> same with KDE, so it may be X11 to blaim
[17:03] <yugnip> lessshaste, i just checked and it works with thunar and pacmanfm as well as nautilus
[17:04] <lessshaste> ok thanks
[17:04] <lessshaste> yugnip, not in archive manager it seems
[17:04] <lessshaste> yugnip, which doesn't have such an option
[17:04] <lessshaste> gnome archive manager that is
[17:04] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: i would check your these files to make sure they are set correctly, locate .session
[17:04] <yugnip> lessshaste, opeing an archive is different than a word file
[17:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> I loved ubuntu for phones ^_^
[17:05] <lessshaste> yugnip, right but the word file is in the zip in this particular case
[17:05] <lessshaste> yugnip, so I am opening the word file
[17:05] <kylescottmcgill> .xsession-errors should have errors in it relating to your unity and KDE not apprearing properly too
[17:05] <yugnip> lessshaste, you can choose which archiver to open an archive, OR you could choose which app to open a word file
[17:05] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, where is that?
[17:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> is there a way for translating it?
[17:05] <yugnip> lessshaste, in either case you must right click that specific file
[17:06] <lessshaste> yugnip, right.. a) when in gmail I have no option it just opens abiword.. if I choose the download as zip option from gmail it gives me archive manager then
[17:06] <kylescottmcgill> ~/.xsession-errors
[17:06] <kylescottmcgill> so
[17:06] <kylescottmcgill> less ~/.xsession-errors
[17:06] <lessshaste> I just need to change the defaults in lubuntu somehow
[17:07] <yugnip> lessshaste, download the file, unzip it, right click and make default changes, then from now on it will be as you chose
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: sudo update-alternatives –config editor then after you have made your changes, sudo update-alternatives –all
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> if yugnip's suggestion doesnt work
[17:07] <atlef> home-horim, or dar "disk archive"
[17:08] <qhartman> fogus, what
[17:08] <jrtappers> Sorry, no web browser so no pastebin
[17:08] <qhartman> 's your actual problem?
[17:08] <jrtappers> james@ubuntu:~$ cat .xsession-errors
[17:08] <jrtappers> /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <jrtappers> /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <jrtappers> gnome-session[2170]: WARNING: Session 'ubuntu' runnable check failed: Exited with code 127
[17:08] <jrtappers> unity-2d-panel: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <FloodBot1> jrtappers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <jrtappers> unity-2d-shell: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <fogus> qhartman: I am getting this error in my bind startup log: "isc_stdio_open '/var/log/bind.log' failed: permission denied"
[17:08] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, sudo update-alternatives –config editor
[17:08] <lessshaste> update-alternatives: error: unknown argument `–config'
[17:09] <qhartman> fogus, what are the permissions on that file? I assume it's owned by bind:bind?
[17:09] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, --config
[17:09] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, so whats the problem
[17:09] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, that's the wrong set of options.. it is all about emacs
[17:09] <fogus> qhartman: I tried bind:bind, but also root:bind.
[17:10] <yugnip> lessshaste, my suggestion works
[17:10] <jrtappers> Sorry for the flood, I can only open xchatt and terminal, so I had no other way of showing logs
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: pastebin dude :)
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> sounds like you need to reinstall libgl
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: pastebin dude :)
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> sounds like you need to reinstall libgl
[17:10] <FloodBot1> kylescottmcgill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <fogus> qhartman: the init.d/bind9 file sets root:bind for the pid file, so I thought I would try that also
[17:10] <lessshaste> yugnip, sure but I still want to change the defaults :) I will ask on askubuntu
[17:10] <yugnip> lessshaste, it's the proper way to do it as the terminal config is harder than necessary if you arent used to it
[17:10] <lessshaste> I am only used to the terminal!
[17:11] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, how?
[17:11] <yugnip> lessshaste, you are changing the defaults when you click set as default
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=libgl.so%20ubuntu%20missing&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=67d470d6a8c6f26c&bpcl=40096503&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dGY&biw=1918&bih=974
[17:11] <qhartman> fogus, that's a good idea. You will also need to make sure the permissions are right, not just the ownership. Look at the permissions on the pid file and set the log file the same
[17:11] <jrtappers> No browser
[17:11] <jrtappers> I have xchat and terminal
[17:11] <qhartman> jrtappers, install elinks or lynx and you will have a rudimentary browser
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> ok hang on then
[17:12] <kylescottmcgill> locate libGL.so
[17:12] <kylescottmcgill> try find libgl first
[17:12] <jrtappers> unable to locate package
[17:12] <rhinux> @kylescottmcgill thanks for advice with ~/.xsession-errors, I tried in /var/log/* I have to reboot from livecd because of ecryptfs /home partition and the mount private doesnt work from here...
[17:12] <fogus> qhartman: I tried 777
[17:13] <josh__> Hi ! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and my titlebar (the one with the options for minimise, maximise and close) is missing. How do I restore it ?
[17:13] <home-horim> hi, can you tell me what is the software suggested here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124328
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> rhinux: ok good luck
[17:13] <home-horim> i can't enter it
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: locate is a command
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> oh wait
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> nevermind
[17:14] <kylescottmcgill> cd / ; find . | grep -i libgl.so
[17:14] <home-horim> hi, can you tell me what is the software suggested here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124328
[17:14] <jrtappers> locate works, gives back a list
[17:14] <Miebster1> what is a linux alternative for greenshot?
[17:15] <kylescottmcgill> ok so according to the Fix, you would
[17:15] <home-horim> i hate ubuntu and windows alike
[17:15] <n0yd> Anyone currently using cairo-dock on 12.10? Im having an issue with autohide that I cannot get passed. Tried xfce, tried, gnome, it happens regardless of DE.
[17:15] <kylescottmcgill> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/path/to/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/
[17:15] <nearst> hmm. i think ubuntu main repo must be joking. replace stable apps with buggy one
[17:16] <n0yd> When I set cairo-dock to autohide, it doesnt come back on mouseover, unless I happen to mouseover the exact area where the foregound applications icon would be.
[17:16] <qhartman> fogus, and when you checked it after setting those permissions it showed "rwxrwxrwx"?
[17:16] <fogus> yes
[17:16] <fogus> same error
[17:16] <n0yd> If I mouseover in that exact spot, the dock will come back, otherwise  it stays hidden.
[17:16] <qhartman> fogus, try 770 instead
[17:17] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: after that, type: unity --reset ; unity --replace; and logout and login if it doesnt appear
[17:17] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492551/
[17:17] <fogus> qhartman: "Jan  3 17:17:08 ns01 named[20273]: isc_stdio_open '/var/log/bind.log' failed: permission denied"
[17:17] <jrtappers> how do I logout from terminal
[17:18] <n0yd> Damn, I figured no one would have a clue about cairo-dock, oh well, worth a shot.
[17:18] <qhartman> fogus, it's also possible the permissions on the log directory aren't set correctly
[17:18] <josh__> jrtappers, 'exit'
[17:18] <kylescottmcgill> hang on
[17:18] <fogus> qhartman: drwxr-xr-x
[17:18] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill I rebooted, and everything appeared to load fine, after a few minutes of use my screen went black and now it is just displaying error after error. The monitor is not turning off but it keeps flashing black and then printing more stuff on the screen
[17:19] <qhartman> fogus, that should be ok
[17:19] <fogus> (for /var/ and /var/log/)
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ^^
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> then sudo service lightdm restart
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> this will take you to the login screen
[17:20] <fogus> qhartman: selinux and apparmor are off
[17:20] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: at least its a little better? .... you might need some new drivers too
[17:20] <nearst> ZenMasta, ive face that in my eeepc, ima only use recovery mode to skip that bug flashing
[17:21] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: is it a known bug? whats your gfx card in your eeepc?
[17:21] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, still not working
[17:21] <nearst> intel 945GE
[17:22] <josh__> kylescottmcgill, Your suggestion,  "unity --reset" , worked for me. Thanks ! :)
[17:22] <ee12059> ,y,yy
[17:22] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: what does xsession-errors say now?
[17:22] <ee12059> lui
[17:22] <ee12059> uiluil
[17:22] <ee12059> uilil
[17:22] <ee12059> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492567/
[17:22] <kylescottmcgill> lol josh__ your welcome
[17:22] <nearst> im set with verbose nomodeset but still flashing, so recovery mode is the way to skip that flashing
[17:22] <jrtappers> cannot open shared object file, no file or directory
[17:23] <jrtappers> libGL.so
[17:23] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ok, so now if you locate libGL.so is it in /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[17:24] <nearst> kylescottmcgill, any idea how to fix that flashing?
[17:25] <iScet> Hello!
[17:25] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: are you on or near the eeepc now? i dont know if there would be a error log for that
[17:25] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill the flashing happened after using the desktop ui, even before the screen started flashing it was having some graphical anomalies, especially when trying to open the dashboard launcher thing. At first it looked like it froze but then it just showed the terminal and all those errors but I couldn't' seem to "get out" so I could type any new commands or anything
[17:25] <nearst> im on eeepc now
[17:25] <kylescottmcgill> it could be a incorrect xrandr setting, like the hsync is off or it could be gfx drivers, it could really be a million things :S
[17:25] <anomalies> ZenMasta, did i having graphical?
[17:26] <anomalies> just kidding :P
[17:26] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[17:26] <iScet> hey. i was wanting to install the newest ubuntu... i have a dualboot setup now of Mac-Win7 on my HP Probook... was wondering best way to go about repartitioning to not lose any data... anyone have a good idea?
[17:26] <UnnamedUser951> Hello. After i mount an SMB share using cifs through /etc/fstab and i try to access/browse it trough apache i get the error "CIFS VFS: Unexpected loockup error -20" on the console. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[17:26] <benkaiser> Hey anyone know what could cause this error: "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to play N http://www.thewayoftheninja.org/n_downloads.html
[17:26] <i3ear> Hey I have a question. I am trying to get my system to boot from usb but it doesn't natively support booting from usb. Can I get it to boot from usb using a burned CD or something?
[17:26] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: you could try nomodeset on the grub boot line, or seeing if you have some newer drivers, if you can google, try googling your GFX card and ubuntu flashing
[17:27] <Dj_FlyBy> kylescottmcgill: thanks for the info. Ill do a backup of all critical stuff before going ahead with it then. better safe than sorry
[17:27] <Muphrid> i3ear: you have to boot from a burned cd which has no relation to usb at all
[17:27] <nearst> i3ear, maybe your usb not properly booting setup, maybe bios
[17:27] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: no problem
[17:27] <yugnip> i3ear, try plop
[17:28] <i3ear> nearst, this computer is quite old
[17:28] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: yeah im not sure, flashing monitors can be a couple of things
[17:28] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, Still not working, and all users on my pc are afftecred, tried logging in as guest
[17:28] <nearst> i3ear, ya. try to change bios boot order
[17:29] <nearst> kylescottmcgill, im not really sure what is the cause, im replace with grub-pc also not work. just confuse. loo
[17:29] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: can you get to a browser at all? phone/other pc?
[17:29] <yugnip> i3ear, try plop for older comps http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/features.html
[17:29] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, I can get to the browser but I cannot multitask
[17:30] <jrtappers> I installed a text browser
[17:30] <i3ear> yugnip, alright I will
[17:30] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: http://goo.gl/yQkuj
[17:30] <yugnip> i3ear, it should enable you to install from usb on a comp that is too old to allow it
[17:30] <nearst> i3ear, maybe antiX
[17:31] <UnnamedUser951> Hello. I have mounted an SMB share using cifs through /etc/fstab and when i try to access it trough apache using firefox i get the error "CIFS VFS: Unexpected loockup error -20" on the console. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[17:31] <fogus> qhartman: oh, apparmor is a peristant guy.
[17:31] <kylescottmcgill> brb
[17:32] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[17:32] <ZenMasta> when I boot I don't see the grub loader, this time when I tried to boot up, it just brought up tty1 and some errors
[17:32] <ZenMasta> maybe I should use a different distro or older release?
[17:33] <nearst> ZenMasta, did u try from recovery mode?
[17:33] <alexandr> привет
[17:33] <ZenMasta> how am I supposed tog et to recovery mode?
[17:33] <atlef> !ru | alexandr
[17:34] <nearst> aww
[17:35] <nearst> ZenMasta, try uncomment the GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" in /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[17:36] <floridsdorf> hi
[17:36] <Apachez> any of you running data=writeback on any of your linuxservers ?
[17:38] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, that didn''t work
[17:38] <arch_> hello. I am having an issue and I could really use some advice... I went to save a file and I noticed in the Places list there is something called "Kev's Phone". I have no idea what or who Kev is. When I hover over it it says it's an ftp link.
[17:38] <jhutchins_wk> ZenMasta: You should probably read the error messages on the console and try to understand them.
[17:39] <jhutchins_wk> ZenMasta: They're probably trying to tell you what is wrong so you can try to fix it.
[17:42] <fogus> In case anyone was curious: it was apparmor.
[17:44] <nearst> fogus, why with apparmor?
[17:44] <fogus> it wouldn't let bind log
[17:45] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[17:46] <dryhay> webcam/mic problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2101000
[17:51] <kubanc> Can i install CPanel in ubuntu server 12.10?
[17:51] <ZenMasta> doesn't nomodeset only affect graphics before loading the desktop gui?
[17:51] <Therion87> Yes
[17:51] <Therion87> to kubanc
[17:53] <xxbug3rxx_> Hello everyone!
[17:53] <seednode> Hello
[17:53] <xxbug3rxx_> I'm trying to configure a printer/scanner, anyone have experience?
[17:53] <skulltip> silly question, if i purchase something in ubuntu software center using 12.04, can i reinstall after installing 12.10+ versions?
[17:53] <seednode> No, sorry, I just have a print server
[17:54] <xxbug3rxx_> seednode: thanks anyways.
[17:55] <beachbrake> this is the reply to sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492641/
[17:55] <jrtappers> how can I fix when unity fails to load because of missing libGL.so
[17:55] <seednode> beachbrake, when that happens to me, I usually just kill dpkg
[17:55] <seednode> But that's not exactly safe.
[17:55] <seednode> So don't trust me on this
[17:56] <rom> can some one help me hount my disk from a live cd?
[17:56] <seednode> My guess is there's a program installing in another TTY or something
[17:56] <beachbrake> i tried installing skype
[17:56] <beachbrake> it says the same thing.
[17:57] <seednode> rom, you want to mount a disk
[17:57] <seednode> ?*
[17:57] <nearst> lol
[17:57] <rom> yes
[17:57] <nearst> hi rom. got your pic yet ?
[17:57] <seednode> What's the device label of your CD drive?
[17:58] <nearst> sr0?
[17:58] <rom> no i got it working yesterday by your help <nearst> thanks
[17:58] <rom> but i tried today the same way
[17:58] <rom> not getting it?
[17:58] <nearst> why ? always start with sudo :)
[17:59] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[17:59] <jrtappers> can I copy files from one wubi install disk to another? I have a backup of some files on a wubi disk
[17:59] <rom> 1 sec il give u the link
[17:59] <kylescottmcgill> back
[17:59] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill,  Still not working
[18:00] <nearst> Sach, try whereis tomboy
[18:00] <jrtappers> I have got a backup of /usr/lib/ but its on a wubi disk
[18:00] <Sach> nearst: sorry, what do you mean?
[18:01] <nearst> what u mean delete? on panel bar ? whereis tomboy will give u the link app for execute
[18:01] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ok, it should find those files, which is wierd, the only other thing i can suggest at this point is to re-install libgl
[18:01] <jrtappers> how can I do that?
[18:01] <kylescottmcgill> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx (i think, there is about 10 libgl's)
[18:02] <nearst> yup
[18:02] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2299105
[18:03] <rom> pls check out n let me know?
[18:03] <linuxnoob> hello, I've been having trouble setting up my rs232/uart with my microcontroller, is there anyone who'd like to help? I can't seem to be able to find out which device I should select...
[18:03] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: sudo apt-cache search libgl | grep -i opengl # will list all of the relevant ones at the top
[18:04] <nearst> rom, not sda2, sdb2, sdb3 and sdb5
[18:04] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: im guessing you need the runtime
[18:04] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, reinstalling the one you said has triggered a lot of movement, so it might work
[18:05] <kylescottmcgill> f i hope so :D
[18:05] <rom> oh that is lame i guess, thanks anyways, do i do the same with sdb?
[18:05] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, can I use an old copy of the wubi root disk to fix this , copy some files over?
[18:05] <nearst> yup. make folder sdb3 and sdb5. then mount
[18:06] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: i would avoid it, if the libgl was built on another machine, if it was built on the machine your on, you *might* be ok
[18:06] <rom> thanks dude, need to learn a lot!
[18:06] <jrtappers> It was built on my machine, this si just a copy of the wubi disks from a week or so ago
[18:06] <jrtappers> Il try a reboot now
[18:06] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ok good luck
[18:07] <nearst> :) ima usually use remastersys to backup my distro
[18:07] <Bsims> Cups Printing is amazingly slow with my postscript printer... its taking it over two minutes to process the test page, I realize I am running in a vM but 4gigs of ram and a 3ghz cpu shouldn't print that amazingly slow any ideas?
[18:11] <isr45> .
[18:11] <losplaya_> hello chaps is this the right place for beginners
[18:12] <mikubuntu> aaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh ... dvd won't play -- error msg says 'dvd may be encrypted' -- its a library copy of 'prince of persia' -- could someone tell me what i may need to install?
[18:12] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, IT WORKED!!!
[18:12] <Tex_Nick> losplaya_ : it's a ubuntu support channel for users of all levels
[18:13] <nearst> jrtappers, nice
[18:13] <losplaya_> thanks for that That Tex Nick
[18:13] <isr45> could anyone tell me that what is the meaning of "."  and "+" in a file permissions -rw-rw-rw. or -rw-rw-rw-+ ?
[18:13] <Tex_Nick> losplaya_ : np :)
[18:13] <jrtappers> isr45, it that x?
[18:14] <losplaya_> right where do i start
[18:14] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: lol awesome, i was hoping it would lol
[18:14] <nearst> isr45, man -k permission
[18:14] <isr45> jrtappers: yeah
[18:14] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, I uninstalled the one you said and about 50 things uninstalled because of dependencies
[18:14] <jrtappers> A package landslide
[18:14] <losplaya_> any one can help out with icast as im trying to to setup a internet station
[18:14] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[18:14] <jrtappers> isr45, Its the execute permission
[18:15] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: what i would like to know is why it decided to break
[18:15] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: but none the less im glad its sorted
[18:15] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, maybe it wanted to be like windows for a while
[18:15] <isr45> jrtappers: i want to know the meaning of "." and "+"
[18:15] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[18:15] <jrtappers> isr45, the x at the end is execute
[18:16] <nearst> idk how to explain it.
[18:16] <jrtappers> try making a .sh script, it wont run, its text
[18:16] <jrtappers> change the execute and its a script and it will run
[18:16] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2299108
[18:17] <rom> pls tel me what to do now?
[18:17] <iwoj> I'm trying to connect an external Mac OS drive to my ubuntu machine, but the permissions don't map nicely.
[18:17] <Pici> isr45: where do you see the + or . ?
[18:17] <isr45> could anyone tell me that what is the meaning of "."  and "+" at the end of a file permissions -rwxrwxrwx. or -rwxrwxrwx+ ?
[18:17] <iwoj> is there a way to say "uid x on the external drive maps to user y on my local machine"?
[18:17] <isr45> Pici: at the end of a file permission
[18:18] <losplaya_> icast help any one
[18:18] <atjehcyber> can i get some introduct /tmp and /var on linux used for what ?
[18:18] <Pici> !hier | atjehcyber
[18:19] <nearst> losplaya_, ive no experience on icast. but u can ask any problem here.
[18:19] <Pici> isr45: I don't recall ever seeing that in an ls output.
[18:19] <losplaya_> cheers nearst
[18:19] <kylescottmcgill> isr45: yeah same, can you paste an example?
[18:20] <kylescottmcgill> one line will do too btw :)
[18:21] <losplaya_> my site will not work with the (www) prefix http://msmatty.co.uk
[18:21] <xibalba> how can i mirror an ubuntu mirror's 12.04.1 ISO list ?
[18:21] <xibalba> i want to grab all files from : http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/12.04.1/
[18:21] <mikubuntu> after i RE-installed libdvdread4 -- now the dvd is playing but the video quality is all messed up
[18:21] <xibalba> wget just grabs the robots.txt file and dies
[18:21] <mikubuntu> aaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh ... dvd won't play -- error msg says 'dvd may be encrypted' -- its a library copy of 'prince of persia' -- could someone tell me what i may need to install?
[18:21] <nearst> losplaya_, that mean u not setup www in your dns nameserverrrrrr
[18:21] <mikubuntu> after i RE-installed libdvdread4 -- now the dvd is playing but the video quality is all messed up
[18:21] <losplaya_> mikubuntu did you do an update after installing
[18:22] <killer> what does emacs-goodies-el package contains
[18:22] <Siver> Hi, I'm wondering how I could export my ubuntu config and import it between 2 ubuntu VMs on the same machine. Anyone who could point me to a good article regarding this?
[18:22] <nearst> mikubuntu, try with vlc? or smplayer?
[18:23] <losplaya_> let me look at that again nearst ill get back to on that
[18:23] <losplaya_> thanks
[18:23] <ElysiumNet> is it possible to duplicate an ubuntu installation with dd to a different system with a slightly different hardware configuration?
[18:23] <Glowball> Can I find a full list of software differences between normal Ubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome Remix?
[18:23] <spm_Draget> Where are the launcher-icons on the left configured (which file) ?
[18:23] <mikubuntu> losplaya, i just did the command from the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[18:23] <jrtappers> Is elemental OS luna based on Ubuntu
[18:24] <xibalba> i just switched to an FTP site
[18:24] <xibalba> looks to be working
[18:24] <nearst> losplaya_, sure. u can test with dig too
[18:24] <SPYGAME> hey, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 and my headphones stopped working. any ideas ?
[18:24] <ElysiumNet> the harddisk available on the remote system is equal or more than on the source system
[18:24] <jrtappers> Cause all the Icons seem simi;ay
[18:24] <xreal> Do you know "Connectify Dispatch"? You can combine any type of connection to ONE and use their combined speed. But it's win32 only. Is this possible for Linux, too?
[18:24] <mikubuntu> yes nearst i tried several players -- i did not reboot though, should i try rebooting
[18:25] <jrtappers> xreal, I would want connectify hotspot firat
[18:25] <lampe2> hey i wanne make a complete system backup to my usbstick how can i achive this ? thx for the help
[18:25] <xreal> jrtappers: I don't have use for this :p
[18:25] <jrtappers> Windows 7 wifi virtual is one of the few reasons I use 7 now
[18:26] <Sach> nearst: sorry, what do you mean?
[18:27] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[18:31] <Tex_Nick> lampe2 : have a look at this ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[18:31] <WeThePeople> sach, check trask
[18:31] <WeThePeople> trash
[18:31] <Sach> WeThePeople: Thanks, but what is trask?
[18:32] <nearst> grr.. askbuntu is fun
[18:32] <WeThePeople> sach, trash
[18:32] <kylescottmcgill> Sach: also check ~/.local/share/tomboy there may be a backup there, if not, it might be gone gone
[18:33] <Sach> kylescottmcgill: at that location, there is a backup folder.  Is this is folder of deleted tomboy notes?
[18:33] <losplaya_> what do i need to change in my name servers to get my www prefix to work please
[18:33] <nearst> sudo apt-get install tomboy
[18:33] <mrmcgibby> My .xsession-errors file was growing out of control, so I deleted but forgot that other processes are holding it open and I can't reclaim the space.  Any ideas?
[18:33] <fezzik> hi
[18:33] <Guest88590> when I start cheese, it seems the device it uses is polled from /dev/video0 to some other /dev/videoX.....randomly at different values. During this time, the image is black...then it stops at some value, and the image starts. What's going on?
[18:33] <nearst> losplaya_, setup www to your ip.
[18:33] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: you should fix a lot of those errors if you can
[18:34] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: I don't follow
[18:34] <kylescottmcgill> Sach: maybe, try cat <tomboynote> and see if the one your missing is their
[18:34] <antonio__> I'm trying to find out why openshot isn't working
[18:34] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: I fixed the problem with the file growing, but now I have a huge file that won't go away because other processes are using it.
[18:35] <Sach> kylescottmcgill: what is cat?
[18:35] <nearst> meow
[18:35] <losplaya_> im going to try and work that thanks
[18:35] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: .xsession-errors are errors generated by X Server (your GUI for everything) there will be an application that is throwing all of its errors in there, i would try to fix some  of them to prevent that file getting too large
[18:36] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: Yeah, I fixed the problem there.
[18:36] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: you should be able to sudo rm .xsession-errors and it wont cause any problems but it will re-create that file and fill it up
[18:36] <tflgen2> Hey everyone, just installed 12.04 lts server and am trying to get an email server up and running. I'm having an issue with saslauthd stating that "sasl plain authentication failed: no mechanism available"
[18:36] <ElysiumNet> what is the best way to copy a machine?
[18:36] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: rsync
[18:37] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: But it won't actually.  The other processes will still want to write to the deleted file.
[18:37] <nearst> use remastersys and make your own iso and install anywhere :)
[18:37] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: entirely
[18:37] <kylescottmcgill> Sach: sorry these are command line commands, if you using the file manager to get there, just copy those to another location and try open them in Tomboy or Libre Office
[18:37] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: or clonezilla. what are you trying to do?
[18:37] <ElysiumNet> mysql database, nginx settings, user permissions, etc
[18:37] <ElysiumNet> I am trying to get my production server to another production server :P
[18:38] <ElysiumNet> with the least amount of disruption possible. this means not stopping services
[18:38] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: so, when you open a terminal and sudo rm .xsession-errors ; what does it say?
[18:38] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: you should have no trouble rsyncing everything as root between the systems. the only issue is some db's that may not be correctly copied
[18:38] <losplaya_> im behind a home router will that make a difference
[18:38] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: It's deleted.  But lsof shows (correctly) that a bunch of other processes still using the old file.
[18:38] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: wouldn't that set the permissions of everyone to root?
[18:38] <ElysiumNet> *everything
[18:39] <ElysiumNet> I am fine with copying the database seperately at the last minute
[18:39] <bekks> mrmcgibby: It will be released after the last file handle is released.
[18:39] <ElysiumNet> but wouldn't copying /etc/ cause problems?
[18:39] <rypervenche> tflgen2: You may have problems with InnoDB tables, yeah.
[18:39] <bekks> mrmcgibby: Until then, it is still there, but not accessible anymore for new processes.
[18:39] <mrmcgibby> bekks: but it's huge and it doesn't look like the processes are going to release it anytime soon.
[18:39] <rypervenche> tflgen2: I would just dump the databases then reimport them.
[18:39] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: as bekks said, also when you logout and login that file will be recreated
[18:39] <kylescottmcgill> how big was the file?
[18:40] <mrmcgibby> bekks and kylescottmcgill: I'd rather figure out how to make the file zero size.
[18:40] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: mysql user data...
[18:40] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: those errors are there for a reason
[18:40] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync
[18:40] <bekks> mrmcgibby: Release all file handles, and it will be gone.
[18:40] <nearst> zero size?
[18:40] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: but if you REALLLY dont want it
[18:40] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: So dump all the databases at once then.
[18:41] <kylescottmcgill> ln -s /dev/null .xsession-errors
[18:41] <mrmcgibby> Okay, figured it out.  You can access a deleted file by using /proc/<pid>/fd/<fd>.  So if I just do # > /proc/2026/fd/2 it clears out the file./
[18:41] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: *user data*. this includes passwords and such
[18:41] <ElysiumNet> which requires something else to dump and import properly
[18:41] <ElysiumNet> but I'll figure that out later
[18:42] <mrmcgibby> space reclaimed without logging out.
[18:42] <rypervenche> mysqldump --all-databases
[18:42] <m1r0> Hello?
[18:42] <callie> hi m1r0
[18:42] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: im curious to know how large that file actually was
[18:42] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: 126 G
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[18:43] <m1r0> I am having trouble installing ubuntu, although ubuntu (says it installs successfully), and it is on the hard disk, it is not being written to mbr, so my computer is booting straight to windows
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> you know
[18:43] <m1r0> My computer has two harddisks, and ubuntu is being installed on the second one
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> it should rotate
[18:43] <callie> m1r0, have you seelcted the boot loader drive during the install?
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> and then delete itself after a couple of logins etc
[18:43] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: probably
[18:44] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: indicator-weather was going crazy and writing to it at about 1mb/s
[18:44] <m1r0> Callie: Here's the situation
[18:44] <m1r0> I had an older version of ubuntu dualbooting with windows on this computer
[18:44] <m1r0> then the grub got corrupted
[18:44] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: that does not include user data...
[18:44] <m1r0> so I told windows to fix mbr and boot directly into windows
[18:44] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: that article specificly omits /etc/
[18:45] <m1r0> now, I'm trying to update ubuntu, so I tell the installer to update
[18:45] <tflgen2> no it doesn't. it excludes /dev
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> er, nevermind
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> I thought that said --include
[18:45] <m1r0> (I've also tried to tell it to erase existing ubuntu and reinstall), but it's not installing the bootloader (GRUB)
[18:45] <tflgen2> ^.^
[18:45] <kylescottmcgill> m1r0: you need to change the boot order, if you installed grub on to the second disk
[18:45] <kylescottmcgill> by default your BIOS will use the first boot drive which would be windows
[18:45] <bones_> hi
[18:45] <callie> m1r0, you have to chroot from a livecd, and install grub from there
[18:45] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: What exactly do you mean when you say user data?
[18:45] <bekks> mrmcgibby: Why didnt you stop indicator-weather then...?
[18:45] <m1r0> How do I do that?
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: username
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> and password, permissions, etc
[18:46] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet:
[18:46] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: Of what? The database users?
[18:46] <ElysiumNet> last time I did an export/import of that data, it ended in ruins
[18:46] <m1r0> I'm going to see if bios lets me specify a hard drive to boot from
[18:46] <Guest15336> hello friends
[18:46] <tflgen2> whoops. password and user are kept in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow for local users
[18:46] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: one does not just export/import the "mysql" database -_-
[18:46] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: different thing :P
[18:46] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: gotcha
[18:46] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: You can, but it may not be what you want.
[18:47] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: percona probably has what I need
[18:47] <kylescottmcgill> ElysiumNet: you can do a mysql-dump of all dbs and then mysql-admin to import them again
[18:47] <abgeek> www.geeknepal #join for technology news and tutorials
[18:47] <ElysiumNet> kylescottmcgill: completely different thing >_<
[18:47] <callie> m1r0, you want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 to install grub back on the first drive
[18:47] <mrmcgibby> bekks: I did
[18:48] <kylescottmcgill> ElysiumNet: ok i will shutup :D
[18:48] <bekks> !hcl > bekks
[18:48] <Apachez> didnt ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server kernels merge into the same kernel or did I miss something?
[18:48] <m1r0> I've tried to reinstall grub
[18:48] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: PM'd you
[18:49] <nearst> got it. im doing some conf at terminal. this eeepc almost dead. lol
[18:52] <nearst> why m1r0
[18:54] <guest414561> Can any one tell me what the best partition scheme would be for a 250G HD
[18:55] <bekks> guest414561: There is no such "best" scheme. It all depends on your needs, requirements and wishes.
[18:56] <guest414561> i want to be able to reinstall without losing media and settings
[18:56] <bekks> guest414561: Just backup everything before.
[18:56] <nearst> use side by side while installation
[18:57] <bazhang> guest414561, use a separate home partition, for starters
[18:58] <coyotekid> I'm trying to install a driver and new to Ubuntu. Used "source" command but it doesn't seem to be recognized. Is there another I should use?
[18:58] <jrtappers> Swap
[18:59] <jrtappers> Swap, Home, /
[18:59] <bekks> coyotekid: What exactly are you trying?
[18:59] <coyotekid> . setup is working.
[18:59] <coyotekid> but I get an alert that i need to be root and it quits.
[19:00] <bekks> coyotekid: What is ". setup" supposed to do?
[19:00] <coyotekid> and when I sudo then dot isn't working, for some reason.
[19:00] <bekks> coyotekid: And which Ubuntu do you have exactly?
[19:00] <coyotekid> dot setup, that should have read. dot setup is working. setup is my script.
[19:00] <bekks> coyotekid: do you want to source it or do you want to execute it?
[19:00] <coyotekid> it's a script to install drivers for a kodak scanner.
[19:01] <guest414561> I was reading the below link but it does not seem to give size recommendations http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html#number
[19:01] <Pici> coyotekid: source is a shell built-in, its not an executable program.
[19:01] <bekks> coyotekid: And which Ubuntu do you have exactly?
[19:01] <coyotekid> I thought dot and source were the same?
[19:01] <coyotekid> for running a bash script?
[19:01] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: They are, but "./foo.sh" is different from ". foo.sh"
[19:01] <Pici> coyotekid: its not the command to run a bash script, its more like 'including' it.
[19:01] <bekks> coyotekid: No. Run a script like "./script" and source it like ". ./script"
[19:01] <coyotekid> it's the recent stable unbuntu.
[19:02] <Guest12784> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu via USB stick, but I'm having some trouble
[19:02] <coyotekid> I'm not using it with the slash, as a locater.
[19:02] <Guest12784> I've tried converting the desktop image via http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx, and also just using netboot/boot.img.gz. However, each time the usb is not recognized as a option during boot. I've tried booting it on a Mac and a PC. Any thoughts on what could be the matter?
[19:02] <coyotekid> I'm using it as an abreviated source, which isn't working.
[19:02] <coyotekid> but dot "is".
[19:02] <coyotekid> but not when sudo.
[19:03] <bekks> coyotekid: Sourcing is not executing a script.
[19:03] <rypervenche> coyotekid: What is the exact command that you're trying to run?
[19:03] <coyotekid> I'm in the dir with a script called "setup".
[19:03] <coyotekid> when I run ". setup" is works, but tells me I need to be root.
[19:04] <coyotekid> then when I sudo it no longer works.
[19:04] <bekks> ". setup" does NOT run that script.
[19:04] <Pici> coyotekid: 'source' has the side effect of running the code, but thats not what it is for.
[19:04] <coyotekid> well, actually, it does.
[19:04] <bekks> "./setup" will, ". setup" wont.
[19:04] <coyotekid> I get all the info from Kodak, along with info about what drivers will install.
[19:05] <coyotekid> but then it says I need to be root and says hit enter to quit.
[19:05] <Pici> coyotekid: use: sudo ./setup
[19:05] <coyotekid> I've read dot is the same as "source" in a unix book. Are you saying that's wrong?
[19:05] <Pici> coyotekid: no.
[19:06] <Pici> coyotekid: but its not the proper way to run a script.
[19:06] <rypervenche> coyotekid: I believe that you are confusing what "source" does.
[19:06] <coyotekid> it was my Bash book, by O'reilly, if I'm not mistaking.
[19:06] <rypervenche> coyotekid: . is short for source, yes. But . can also mean "the current working directory".
[19:07] <coyotekid> I'll try with the ./ but that just seems like I'm saying where the setup file is.
[19:07] <coyotekid> which doesn't say execute, like dot does.
[19:07] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: I have noticed that if I do an rsync of /etc/, it will also copy over the ip configuration and software RAID stuff...
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: You still need to either be root or use sudo.
[19:07]  * rypervenche facepalms.
[19:07] <coyotekid> or source, if in fact they're one and the same.
[19:07] <ElysiumNet> is that a good thing?
[19:07] <Pici> coyotekid: YOu need to look at your book again.
[19:07] <rypervenche> coyotekid: "source" does nat mean execute.
[19:08] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet:
[19:08] <rypervenche> not*
[19:08] <bekks> coyotekid: They arent the same, and ". " is not the proper way to run a script.
[19:08] <coyotekid> so when in sudo . is being read as here. But when not in sudo it seems to be read as source. That makes sense.
[19:08] <tflgen2> damnnit i hate this irc client….. ip configuration will have to be edited as will fstab
[19:08] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Simply typing out the path to your setup script will execute it.
[19:08] <ElysiumNet> any other files I need to be aware of?
[19:08] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: Giving the path to an executable file *does* say that you want to execute it. Try giving the full path to any executable in the shell.
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> also, the partitions are far larger than on the source machine. I imagine this would screw up the software RAID a bit
[19:09] <tflgen2> you'll also have to install the boot loader on the second machine
[19:09] <nearst> tflgen2, u can use manually setup than dhcp
[19:09] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: The only exception is where the directory is not specified, where the shell then looks for the executable in all of the directories in $PATH.
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: doesn't it already have a boot loader?
[19:09] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: is it a bare system? i.e. no OS?
[19:09] <rypervenche> coyotekid: You can run "sudo ./setup" or "sudo /home/username/Downloads/setup", either will work. (assuming what's where your script is located)
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: I'm rsyncing to it... I'm pretty sure an OS has to be installed already
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> but yeah, ubuntu is already installed on it
[19:09] <tflgen2> nope, not necessary
[19:10] <rypervenche> coyotekid: "source" is something completely different. Do not focus on that.
[19:10] <ElysiumNet> rsycing over the network
[19:10] <coyotekid> the bash book says to run a script run source. The has a asterisk and says "you can also use the synonymous command dot (.).
[19:10] <coyotekid> that's read right from the book.
[19:10] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: You'll notice that "sudo source setup.sh" will fail in exactly the same way as "sudo . setup", and both are equally wrong in this case.
[19:10] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: It might be helpful to read the bash manpage entry for "source".
[19:10] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: You are not understanding what the bash book means to tell you.
[19:11] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Then you're either misreading or you've got a bad book.
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: You are also confusing commands and paths.
[19:11] <tflgen2> "For GRUB, it's recommended that you automatically re-generate the grub.cfg file:" i.e. #update-grub
[19:11] <kubanc> is there any software similar to CPanel for ubuntu server
[19:11] <coyotekid> "Source executes the commands in the specified file..."
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: source setup will search your path for a program named setup.
[19:11] <coyotekid> Maybe this O'reilly book is wrong.
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: No, just your understanding of it.
[19:12] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: What coyotekid just told you is wrong.
[19:12] <coyotekid> I'm not confusing paths. dot has multiple uses.
[19:12] <padi999> hi all
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: The dot by itself does not specify a path.
[19:12] <padi999> Is anyone in here into fotography/filming and has a gopro hero 3?
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: ./ does specify a path, the current directory.
[19:13] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: Sorry, what jhutchins_wk just told you is wrong. source does not search $PATH.
[19:13] <coyotekid> No, what I wrote in quotes was quoted from the O'Reilly book.
[19:13] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Let's get you a better guide then.
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: Quoting the manpage, " If filename does not contain a slash, file
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk>               names in PATH are used to find the directory containing filename."
[19:13] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: It executes the commands in the file in the current shell, which is not what you want, and is not what is generally meant by "executing a script".
[19:13] <coyotekid> both dot and source have both worked for me up until now. INterchangably.
[19:14] <coyotekid> The only problem I think here is that I'm trying to use it as an argument to sudo.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: That is just a coincidence.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: I stand corrected, sorry. Still I would find it odd to use source that way.
[19:14] <Pici> coyotekid: that definitely won't work for something that isn't a bash script though.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: If the setup file is executable, sudo ./setup will work.  If not, sudo bash ./setup
[19:15] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: Try not to let what you have done before prevent you from learning what is correct.
[19:15] <coyotekid> It's not an executable, I'm trying to run a bash script.
[19:15] <GunArm> which release made unity standard?
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: A bash script may be executable.  Not AN executable, we're talking about permissions in this case.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: A bash script is an executable file (at least when it has execute permissions).
[19:16] <coyotekid> Maybe I'm confused. I'll just mess with it. I don't usually work outside of bash. I'm now messing with a local Ubuntu install for the first time.
[19:16] <blackline> I'm trying to mount a network folder at boot (fstab) according to this manual: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658828
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: Yes, you're confused.  Try what we have suggested.
[19:16] <blackline> The network is reachable in Ubuntu 12.10 already but I want it mounted in a folder.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: Also, where did you get this script from? Installing drivers via a script should generally be avoided if possible.
[19:16] <blackline> Anyone that could help me out?
[19:18] <thebishop> Using the file/folder chooser in 12.10 several apps fail to set my selection properly.  in at least Deluge, Sound Converter, and Audacity, I choose my save path, and they just use the default anyway (which is my home folder).  Seems like a nautilus problem.
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: First try mounting it manually.
[19:18] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, good idea. from what I understand it's samba. it's a popcorn hour that share a folder. how do I mount it manually?
[19:19] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, what info do I need?
[19:19] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Check my private message please.
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: mount -t cifs //server/share /mount/point
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: mount -t cifs //server/share /mount/point -o credentials=/path/to/credentials
[19:21] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //pch-c200/share,"
[19:21] <blackline> same message as when i tried in fstab
[19:21] <superdmp> I try to install libpq-dev: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libpq5 libpq-dev" - I am on Ubuntu 10.10
[19:21] <superdmp> what do you suggest?
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> superdmp, upgrade to 11.10
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> or something newer (10.10's EOL)
[19:22] <superdmp> TheLordOfTime:  I can't do that on this machine
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Then //pch-c200/share is not a CIFS share.  NFS maybe?
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Try it without the credentials first.
[19:23] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i tried NFS aswell. If I look at the specifications it has both NFS and SAMBA-support.
[19:23] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | superdmp
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: Where are you installing that from?  THe message means you do not have a matching signature file.
[19:23] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i'm not using credentials now (while mounting)
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: What kind of system is sharing the folder?
[19:24] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk:  I used sudo apt-get install
[19:24] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalog&mainItemId=20
[19:24] <superdmp> I realise this system is out of date, but I am not currently in a position to update it
[19:24] <Jordan_U> superdmp: Why not?
[19:24] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, and as said, i can reach it in system (with credentials).
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: What kind of system is sharing the folder?  Windows?  Linux?
[19:24] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, it should be linux-based, somehow. it's a media center.
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: Whether or not he updates his system is not really relevant to his problem.
[19:25] <aring> Hi.  I just got a new laptop and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 Desktop on it from a burned disc image and I'm having some problems.  I'm hoping someone here can help.
[19:26] <superdmp> Jordan_U:  I realise it's out of date, but at the moment, I am not in a position to update it
[19:26] <kylescottmcgill> Anyone have Ubuntu install macbook 9,2? and fixed the Wifi Dropoff/timeout issues, nothing i have tried works very well, its driving me insane
[19:26] <Jordan_U> superdmp: Why not?
[19:26] <kylescottmcgill> installed*
[19:28] <aring> when I go to boot from the CD I get the first boot screen from ubuntu (the dark... blue? purple? something), then it goes to the flashing underscore.  It flashes for a while then, adjusts to a higher resolution, flashes some more then freezes.  I tried to run to check disc utility, but it also hangs in the same way.
[19:28] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: You bought a device that only has manuals in French and Russian?
[19:28] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | aring
[19:28] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, there should be more languages, wait.
[19:28] <superdmp> Jordan_U:  if you have some suggestion on how what to do about this issue, *given that I am not in a position to update the system*, that would be greatly appreciated
[19:29] <superdmp> more so than an interrogation about why I can't update it right now
[19:29] <aring> I'll try that and let you know if it works, thanks.  :)
[19:29] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, http://files.syabas.com/popcornhour/download/PopcornHour_C-200_UserGuide.pdf
[19:29] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: What I was asking is what is the source of the file you're trying to install?   Is it an official Ubuntu repository, a mirror, a ppd?
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: I was obliquely suggesting that you might readn the manual, but I'll have a look, not doing anything else right now.
[19:31] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, sorry. yes i've read it when i set it up and it "should" be samba. i have no problems reaching it, i can reach it from this computer as well.
[19:32] <dada9293> ciao
[19:32] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i'm not sure how the manual could help me with mounting so i would really appreciate your help.
[19:32] <dada9293> !lista
[19:32] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill didn't have any luck with recover mode but I ended up downloading and isntalling all the latest updates, and changing the driver. seems to be running fine for the last hour
[19:32] <nearst> cool.
[19:34] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk: well, this is my sources.list file: http://dpaste.com/862206/
[19:34] <superdmp> should I find some other information to answer your question?
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: So you have external storage attached to the device and have shared a folder on that device which you are trying to mount.   You may not have correctly set it up as a samba share.
[19:35] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: sorry we couldnt get it sorted without you having to go through all of that, im glad it works now though :)
[19:35] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, no it's not external, it's a internal sata drive which i've connected internally in the popcorn hour.
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: 7.1.2 of the manual.
[19:37] <Timvde> I have just installed Ubuntu, but: 1) My touchpad scrolling doesn't work; 2) Windows 8 wasn't detected, so I can't boot to it anymore...
[19:37] <nearst> why?
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: You'll have to use a different paste service, I can't reach that one.  Got a very suspicious site instead.
[19:39] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492886/
[19:41] <bakis_> did anyones system just get super fucked up on the newest update?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> bakis_  language
[19:41] <bakis_> sorry
[19:41] <nearst> ouch. what happen bakis_
[19:41] <bakis_> i installed the latest updates and my resolution is stuck at 800x600 and none of my window managers are working right
[19:42] <nearst> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[19:42] <nearst> or xrandr -q
[19:42] <Jordan_U> bakis_: Were you using proprietary drivers?
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: I don't see anything wrong with your sources, try aptitude update && aptitude upgrade to maybe update the key.
[19:43] <bakis_> Jordan_U: yeah i believe i was using the nvidia proprietary package
[19:43] <superdmp> thanks jhutchins_wk  I will try that
[19:43] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk: by the way, what was the issue with dpaste.com?
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: Enterprise Firewall probably.
[19:44] <bakis_> nearst: it's saying max is 800x600
[19:44] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, there is no problem reaching it through Nautilus at "smb://pch-c200/share/"
[19:44] <bakis_> from xrandr -q
[19:44] <Sove> this is getting ridiculous, this linux machine here keeps getting file system errors in sda1
[19:44] <nearst> ya. i having the same issue atm bakis_
[19:45] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, If I look at the settings interface on the Popcorn hour the SAMBA client is up and running.
[19:45] <Sove> I already fixed it yesterday, but now it's back
[19:45] <Sove> I'm not really in the mood to keep fixing it everyday
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Sove: Have you checked the SMART status of the drive? What type of errors (do you have a log from fsck)?
[19:45] <Sove> Need the commands
[19:45] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i've looked up the ip-adress for the device if it's any help.
[19:46] <Sove> I'm not exactly savvy with linux stuff
[19:46] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: You might be able to browse it with smb://<server> but cifs doesn't think it's a samba share.
[19:46] <bakis_> nearst: are you also using nvidia prop drivers?
[19:46] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, how do we change cifs mind? :)
[19:46] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk:  output from aptitude update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492896/ - that doesn't look right to me, with all those errors
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: File system errors are not normal.  What errors?  We can't tell you how to fix it without knowing the errors. You can use the history command to see what commands you used yesterday.
[19:48] <Jordan_U> Sove: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[19:48] <Sove> Yesterday I just used fcsk
[19:48] <Sove> It said sda1 had errors
[19:48] <aring> Alright, I tried running the livecd with nomodeset.  It got to a prompt (ubuntu@ubuntu) and i could input a few commands (ls, pwd, etc).  It then tried to run something else, I believe it might have tried to launch to GUI, however it just went to a black screen.
[19:49] <Sove> I used the live CD to get it fixed with sudo fcsk.ext3 -f /dev/sda1
[19:49] <nearst> bakis_, nope, im on intel gm915
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: Not knowing what you might have done to damage the filesystem errors showing up a second time usually means that the life of the drive is very limited.
[19:49] <Noskcaj> to run steam in ubuntu do i need 12.04 or can the non-lts build run it fine?
[19:49] <bakis_> nearst: weird. is anyone else having this issue?
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: You might have two weeks, you might have two days, you might have two minutes.
[19:49] <Sove> I didn't do anything to it
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: In that case the physical drive is dying.
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Sove: Please pastebin the output of the command I gave, and if you get the corruption again please pastebin the full output from fsck.
[19:50] <jhutchins_wk> I suppose there's a chance it's a loose cable or something but continuing corruption is a hardware problem.
[19:50] <nearst> bakis_, so my max now is 800x600 :) . what can i do. make font small. lol
[19:51] <kylescottmcgill> bakis_: you could try setting a new mode, this didnt work for nearst i will admit
[19:51] <bakis_> haha hopefully they'll just release a fix sometime soon, until then i'll just use my laptop i guess
[19:51] <Sove> I'm not able to install that tool
[19:51] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: It could be the somewhat spurious error from fsck that many are experiencing that appears to be caused by upstarted failing to properly unmount filesystems at shutdown: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1073433
[19:51] <bakis_> kylescottmcgill: is there any way to roll-back the update?
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> bakis_: Check dmesg an /var/log/Xorg.0.log for relevant errors.
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> bakis_: what was your screen res prior to the upgrade?
[19:52] <bakis_> 1920x1080
[19:52] <Anunaki> hi
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Sove: Are you still booted into the LiveCD?
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> whats your gfx card?
[19:52] <Sove> No
[19:52] <nearst> kylescottmcgill, yup. hihi
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: Ouch.\
[19:52] <bakis_> geforce gtx 560 ti
[19:52] <Sove> Just the root console from recovery
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> are you using open or closed source drivers?
[19:52] <bakis_> closed i believe
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> also yeah, what does Xorg log say?
[19:53] <Catbus_> tiem for black metal
[19:53] <Catbus_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvi45xje6w
[19:53] <Sove> I'll go and boot it uo from the cd
[19:54] <bakis_> kylescottmcgill: just a second. i ran nvidia-settings and it said i'm not using an nvidia card, so i re-ran nvidia-xconfig and i'm gonna restart x
[19:54] <kylescottmcgill> kk
[19:54] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, I found this thread http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=14940 and tried "sudo mount -t nfs -o noauto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,tcp 192.168.1.177:/share /mnt/popcorn" but it's the same error.
[19:54] <bakis_> so.. be right back
[19:55] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: Indeed. It doesn't actually corrupt anything, but it shows that upstart is failing at a basic requirement of an init system (at least if the current theory on the cause is correct).
[19:55] <ElysiumNet> should I get 12.04 or 12.10?
[19:55] <Anunaki> anyone have probs with the latest ubuntu and bluetooth?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> ElysiumNet: Do you like upgrading every ~6 months?
[19:55] <ElysiumNet> Jordan_U: no
[19:56] <nudelsuppe> hi, in jockey i see two AMD driver but no obvious difference. which one should i choose?
[19:56] <skp1> haha
[19:57] <reprogr`> hi
[19:57] <Jordan_U> ElysiumNet: Then you'll probably be happier with Ubuntu 12.04 as it's an LTS release. If you stick with LTS releases then you can upgrade once every ~2 years, as you can go directly from one LTS release to the next and they are supported for longer.
[19:58] <aring> I can't seem to get ubuntu to install on my new laptop.  nomodeset got me farther, but it still didn't work.
[19:58] <nudelsuppe> nudelsuppe, hi
[19:58] <ElysiumNet> alrighty
[19:58] <ismell> ello, i'
[19:58] <Anunaki> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 gnome via wubi. bluetooth isnt working...
[19:58] <h00k> !lts | ElysiumNet this may have more info
[19:59] <Jordan_U> Anunaki: I highly recommend against using Wubi, though that's almost certainly not the cause of your bluetooth problems.
[19:59] <ismell> i'm running 12.04. How do i get the alt+f2 key combination to open the run dialog? everything I find seems to be about 11.10.
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: This problem is being actively worked.  You could try installing 12.04 instead of 12.10.  One suggested workaround is to shut down networking manually before shutting down/rebooting the system.
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: As Jordan_U said, it's a "cosmetic" bug - there really isn't anything wrong with the actual filesystem, it was just not shut down properly.
[20:00] <ismell> I tried installing ccsm but I can't change the run dialog key
[20:00] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i installed nfs-common and it seems that i reached further, new error message: "sudo apt-get install nfs-common "
[20:00] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: We don't know that that is the problem Sove is having until we get the output from fsck.
[20:00] <blackline> sorry jhutchins_wk, the error was: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177:/share"
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Ah, well, a bit confusing that it gave "wrong filesystem type" before, but now it's permissions/credentials.
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> I'm not scoring very well this afternoon.
[20:01] <aring> I have a brand new ibuypower CZ-17 and I can't seem to install ubuntu on it.  Can someone please help me?
[20:02] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, maybe. but now i installed nfs and tried mounting as nfs, in compare with samba before.
[20:02] <WeThePeople> how to disable tor from running in the background
[20:03] <Anunaki> Jordan_U im using ubuntu now... not liking the desktop side bar but it works just bluetooth dont
[20:03] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Did you go through 7.1.4 and set up access to the share?
[20:03] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: sudo service tor or tord stop
[20:04] <Sove> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/xTUPNPdh
[20:04] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, yes i used nautilus to open the share with my credentials. that was never an issue. i reached it that was from start.
[20:04] <Sove> That's what I got with smartmon thing
[20:05] <WeThePeople> kylescottmcgill, do you know how to stop the daemon from restarting on boot?
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Mounting an NFS share at boot is a bit different.
[20:05] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, "192.168.1.100:/share                  /media/popcorn        nfs   noauto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,tcp" ?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Sove: That looks good, it says that your drive appears to be fine hardware-wise.
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Mount_at_startup
[20:06] <Sove> Then what could ber wrong with the file system
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: Jordan_U Did find a bug that is causing problems like this.
[20:07] <Sove> The comouter worked fine since istall
[20:07] <Sove> This started yesterday
[20:07] <Sove> And it worked in the morning
[20:07] <Sove> Now it happened agai
[20:08] <hskafi> hello
[20:08] <hskafi> I'm running precise pangolin
[20:09] <atlef> !ask | hskafi
[20:09] <hskafi> my processor fan starts only at 70 C
[20:09] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: Do you restart the system often?
[20:10] <hskafi> ubottu: very well then
[20:10] <nearst> lol
[20:11] <jhutchins_wk> hskafi: Fans are usually controlled by the BIOS.  What do you want to have happen instead?
[20:12] <hskafi> my processor fan works fine when i boot into ubuntu, but after a suspend or hibernation, my processor fan would only work when the processor reaches a temperature of 70 C, I'm running a core2duo 2.1 GHz on a toshiba laptop.
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> hskafi: Ok.
[20:13] <hskafi> jhutchins_wk: it's not being controlled by bios correctly while on ubuntu, on windows it's working correctly, but on ubuntu it messes up
[20:13] <mollymandy> Hello
[20:14] <bakis_> yeah none of it worked
[20:14] <aring> I've tried to launch LiveCD, version 12.10 on my laptop using nomodeset flag.  This got me past the hang on flashing underscore and instead to a blank screen.  If I press power it goes through the text shutdown process, and so appears to have launched Ubuntu, however it was not displayed on my screen.  I am using an ibuypower CZ-17 laptop.  It has an nvidia graphics card.
[20:14] <bakis_> i'm probably just gonna wait until a new update comes out and fixes it..
[20:14] <Sove> jhutchins_wk, it's my mom's, she restarts it everyday
[20:15] <Sove> http://pastebin.com/4dQGcPT5 Seems like I'm not able to perform the fix anymore, either
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Sove: That is a serious error, not the one from the bug report I linked to.
[20:18] <Sove> And yes
[20:18] <Sove> That same error was what happened yesterday
[20:18] <Sove> But the fix worked that time
[20:18] <Anunaki> anyway to enable onscreen keyboard at suspend log in?
[20:19] <nearst> bakis_, u able to skip that flashing by recovery mode
[20:19] <Anunaki> whats a distro thati can install without keyboard?
[20:20] <ruyss> Hi, I just installed xampp for linux and now I would like to use it's php in my terminal, anyone that can help me to do that?
[20:20] <nearst> install without keyboard?
[20:20] <bazhang> !xampp | ruyss
[20:20] <Jordan_U> Sove: Is all of your Mother's data backed up?
[20:21] <Sove> No
[20:21] <Sove> We don't really have anything to back up data into
[20:21] <Tex_Nick> Anunaki : at the login screen, there should be an accessibility icon where you can enable onboard
[20:22] <whoever> hi all, is nbstat prart of net-tools? I am tring to run nbstat , and i have net-tools  but keep getting command not found
[20:22] <Sove> That computer was not always a linux comouter, it used to be a Vista
[20:22] <Sove> then it was Mint
[20:22] <Sove> Then it became ubuntu
[20:22] <Jordan_U> Sove: What type of files are most important to her? If they're documents then they are probably small enough that they can all be stored on Ubuntu One/Dropbox/email easily.
[20:22] <bazhang>  File nbstat found in nmap    whoever
[20:23] <Sove> I have no idea about her stuff
[20:24] <nearst> :D
[20:24] <Sove> I figured you're suggesting a reinstall, which I'm not really bothering to do today, it takes too long
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Sove: Backing up is always important. You should figure out what files are important to her and get them backed up somehow, and soon.
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Sove: I'm suggesting that not having backups of important data is bad, and more so when you're getting unexplained filesystem errors.
[20:25] <pangur> My "All Settings" page does not include the option to change what programs to run on startup.  How do I fix that please?
[20:25] <Sove> When it comes to computers and mom, she's a boot
[20:26] <bakis_> nearst: what?
[20:26] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, I suppose I made some progress. I've managed to enter the line in fstab and ran "sudo mount -a" without any errors. The folder I've pointed at is empty though, so the files/folders doen't show. This is the line in fstab: "192.168.1.177:/share /mnt/popcorn nfs credentials=/root/nfs/credentials,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,noatime,tcp 0 0"
[20:26] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - i have a question: is there a tool available for Ubuntu that recovers CD errors? For example light scratches on the CD? Thanks a lot!
[20:27] <Sove> Eh
[20:27] <Sove> If the disc can't be read, neither can the tool do so
[20:27] <Jordan_U> monkeymon: For data CDs, ddrescue.
[20:27] <pangur> Where can I set what programs to run on start up?
[20:28] <pangur> I am trying to configure a Logitech Performance Mouse MX.
[20:28] <jrtappers> Martijn-NL, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21876/rescue-old-damaged-cds-with-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[20:28] <Jordan_U> monkeymon: For audio CDs, cdparanoia might help.
[20:28] <Martijn-NL> The disc is readable... only not for the full 100%
[20:28] <jrtappers> Just skip the live cd bit
[20:29] <jrtappers> That will give you an ISO file, which you can burn to a new unscratched cd
[20:30] <Tex_Nick> Martijn-NL : you can polish those scratches out with a piece of felt and sone fine grade abrasive car polish ... i do it all the time
[20:31] <pangur> Is there a way of adjusting the number of available options in the "All Settings" page?
[20:32] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: noauto will cause it not to mount at boot.
[20:32] <Tex_Nick> pangur : if you're using unity ... type startup in dash
[20:33] <pangur> thanks Tex_Nick  :)
[20:33] <zyngawow> I was totally disapointed by ubuntu. Probably my fault, but the OS was not smooth, and a lot of things failed. Any suggestions?
[20:33] <Martijn-NL> Thanks you very much. I will give it a try. It is very frustrating that my good old CDś do not work anymore
[20:33] <Tex_Nick> pangur : np
[20:33] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, ok. it doesnt seem to matter what credentials i write. first i had them in a separate file. now i'm trying to write the credential directly in fstab just to see if it works.
[20:34] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i'm sure about the credentials though and there is nothing, no error, but nothing in the folder neither.
[20:34] <yugnip> zyngawow, stick with it.
[20:34] <Jordan_U> zyngawow: Without more specifics on what problems you had I can only recommend that you might have a better experience with certified hardware / hardware that came with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[20:35] <yugnip> zyngawow, make sure and update the machine
[20:35] <Jisawesome2> I have a problem with my wireless card, it can find the network ok, and it supposedly connects. however, it does not actually connect, and can not access the internet. When I do try to access the internet, it disconnects, and regardless of whether I try to or not, it disconnects after about 60 seconds anyway.
[20:35] <zyngawow> I guess it is hardware issue... My specs are: proc: i3 530 gpu: Sapphire Radeon hd7770 RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws CL7 8gb mobo: Shitty HP
[20:36] <yugnip> zyngawow, have you updated? and try to be more specific about the trouble
[20:37] <llutz> blackline: are you sure "credentials" is a valid mount-option for nfs?
[20:37] <zyngawow> Well.. for a start, when I installed Ubuntu, WiFi didnt work. Now it works sometimes.. Also, it says something like I dont have a hardware rendering taking place..
[20:37] <zyngawow> I guess that has to do with the low smoothness
[20:38] <blackline> llutz dont know so i changed to: username and password
[20:38] <llutz> blackline: since when does nfs use username/password?
[20:39] <llutz> blackline: those are cifs options
[20:39] <user_> d
[20:39] <Jordan_U> zyngawow: Indeed. Ubuntu 12.10 uses compiz and Unity3D even when there is no GPU accelleration, which means that all of the effects and compositing are done on the CPU, which will be very slow (and will take up CPU that could be used for other things).
[20:39] <Noskcaj> what changes do i have to make to run ubuntu 12.10 run well on an ssd (ocz vector 240gb), i have a 1tb hard drive as well
[20:39] <blackline> llutz - ok. as you see i'm a bit confused ;)
[20:39] <zyngawow> Jordan_U: Oh, I also get a message seying compiz has crashed every while
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Noskcaj: None really. Depending on the drive it might help to run fstrim every once in a while.
[20:40] <zyngawow> And on additional drivers, the ATI driver is there
[20:41] <zyngawow> So.. why is Ubuntu using CPU for rendering?
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> Noskcaj: You might want to do logging and temp files on the HD to reduce traffic on the ssd.
[20:41] <Noskcaj> jhutchins_wk, ok, i was about to ask about that
[20:41] <adamk> zyngawow: Being listed there isn't enough.  Are the additional drivers 'activated'?
[20:42] <zyngawow> adamk, how would I know? I remember it had a green icon near it
[20:42] <zyngawow> I was using the x.org ones
[20:42] <blackline> llutz, you have any idea how to proceed? maybe i should start from scratch. i'm trying to mount a shared folder from my popcorn hour (media center) which have support for both SAMBA and NFS. I've already tried SAMBA with help from jhutchins_wk but we didn
[20:42] <blackline> didnt solve it that way.-
[20:42] <adamk> zyngawow: The open source drivers have limited acceleration for HD7xxx GPUs.  The proprietary drivers, available via the additional driver dialog, have 2D and 3D acceleration.
[20:43] <JoAnneThrax> Is there a different channel to ask specifically about using multiple monitors in ubuntu?  I'm trying to get my laptop to use one external monitor via HDMI and another via sVGA, but when I have the HDMI plugged in, the sVGA monitor doesn't work.  In amdcccle it's just greyed out...
[20:43] <zyngawow> adamk, so ATI drivers arent good?
[20:44] <llutz> blackline: doest "showmount -e 1.2.3.4"  (1.2.3.4 = ip of your mediacenter) show any shares?
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> zyngawow: Some are, some aren't.
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> zyngawow: Just like in Windows.
[20:44] <adamk> zyngawow: Again, the open source drivers have limited acceleration.  The proprietary drivers should work well.
[20:45] <zyngawow> I know they arent good on windows, but at least they accelerate
[20:45] <zyngawow> I'll try with the propietary
[20:45] <phillustine> ?
[20:45] <blackline> llutz it shows: "/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0"
[20:46] <jrtappers> Martijn-NL, try that link
[20:46] <jrtappers> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21876/rescue-old-damaged-cds-with-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow, what failed?
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow, what problems are you having?
[20:46] <jrtappers> So what is not working?
[20:46] <jrtappers> Name the problems, so we can help
[20:46] <FloodBot1> jrtappers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <llutz> blackline: does this work? "sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK /mnt"
[20:46] <zyngawow> I already did lol
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow, try additional drivers
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow,  if you search on the dash for "Additional Drivers" it should appear
[20:46] <jrtappers> If you install it you usually get better performance
[20:47] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: Why the wierd mountpoint?
[20:47] <jrtappers> I just got a flood warning for no reason
[20:48] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: whats wierd with /mnt?
[20:48] <blackline> llutz, hmm. i sent that text line and it just shows a blinking box instead of the place i usually write stuff in terminal :p
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: Oh, that's the share.
[20:48] <bazhang> jrtappers, not no reason
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: n'mind, finding the backscroll.
[20:48] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: np
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: This is really a PB support issue, we're pretty much guessing what the problem is.  Do they have phone support?  Or on-line chat?
[20:49] <jrtappers> zyngawow, whats not working now?
[20:49] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, PB? Do you mean Popcorn Hour?
[20:50] <zyngawow> jrtappers, idk, I'm on windows now
[20:50] <superdmp> does this output from aptitude update look like it's indicating a problem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492896/"
[20:50] <jrtappers> zyngawow, ok
[20:52] <ares_> Hello, how to change monitor heartz on ubuntu 12.04LTS
[20:52] <llutz> blackline: after issuing the command, did you get back the prompt?
[20:52] <WeThePeople> would( ubuntu, windows, ubuntu ) be ok for a hdd?
[20:53] <magik_> WeThePeople, I think you can only have 4 main partitions but I'm a newb lol
[20:53] <WeThePeople> magik_, thats true primary parts.
[20:53] <blackline> llutz now it timed out, took a long while
[20:53] <llutz> blackline: you have to replace 1.2.3.4 by the mediacenter-IP
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Yeah, Popcorn Hour, PH.
[20:54] <ares_> ubuntu 12 kills me
[20:54] <jrtappers> ares_, why?
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: I wouldn't expect NFS to use the real path as a sharename.
[20:55] <jrtappers> if its the window manager then install another window manager
[20:55] <ares_> <jrtappers> I can't change heartz on it like on 11 or 10
[20:55] <ares_> It was able to change it at display options
[20:55] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i suppose they have some kind of support. but i'm kind of unsure about how i should explain the issue since I can reach the samba share from within my desktop enviroment.
[20:56] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: nfs has no "sharenames" like cifs, the share is listed by "showmount"
[20:56] <blackline> llutz, of course, i wrote the the media center ip the first try ;)
[20:56] <phillustine> q
[20:56] <phillustine> quit
[20:56] <blackline> haha
[20:56] <blackline> no i didnt
[20:56] <blackline> sorry for that guys
[20:56] <llutz> blackline: just to make sure...
[20:56] <blackline> good for me
[20:57] <blackline> llutz, access denies by server by mounting...
[20:58] <blackline> llutz: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177"
[20:58] <ares_> if you want to change refresh rate use sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:58] <ddilinger> if you wanted to file a bug that some package does not include a tool from the source ditsribution (say, there is an optional tool in the package called debugclient), is ubuntu-bug appropriate?
[20:59] <ares_> Linux For the win!
[21:00] <llutz> blackline: really ".... while mounting 192.168.1.177"?
[21:01] <llutz> blackline: there should be 192.168.1.177:/opt/blabla  <- the exported sharename
[21:03] <mcrawfor> so, how do I figure out whether compiz is using my graphics card? how do I even choose a graphics card. my xorg.conf is hilariously tiny compared to how i used to remember them
[21:03] <mcrawfor> is there some nice tool i need to know about in 12.10?
[21:03] <blackline> llutz, sorry. this is the full lenght: "marcus@Marcus:/mnt$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.177:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK /mnt/popcorn
[21:03] <blackline> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK"
[21:04] <llutz> blackline: do you have shell access to 192.168.1.177?
[21:04] <CloudGuy> hi
[21:04] <CloudGuy> what is the openvz package in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:04] <CloudGuy> the openvz kernel i mean
[21:06] <magik_> If it weren't for the need to use Windows once in awhile for games and certain applications,  I would discard it all together.  Right now I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal and it's working really good I'm quite impressed.
[21:06] <jhutchins_wk> mcrawfor: If compiz is displaying something it's using your graphics card.  Do you have more than one that you want to choose from?  Most systems run with no xorg.conf at all these days, it autodetects.
[21:07] <lastninja> Witam
[21:07] <jhutchins_wk> magik_: I didn't use Windows at all from 2004 until late 2011 when I went to work for some companies that supply or require Windows machines.
[21:07] <blackline> llutz shell access?
[21:07] <llutz> blackline: ssh, telnet
[21:07] <blackline> llutz,  yes ive dont that before. from another computer. i'll give it a try now.
[21:07] <NuSuey> ah well.. what would be the best way to reinstall grub again? (installed xp and lost it of course)
[21:08] <lastninja> jest tu jakiś polak??
[21:08] <llutz> !pl | lastninja
[21:10] <guntbert> NuSuey: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:14] <blackline> llutz as long as i'm doing it right it is connection refusal
[21:15] <blackline> llutz i used putty and tried to connect to 192.168.1.177
[21:15] <MangoBoy> Hello. Can one use a joystick as a mouse in linux? and is there some special package to install to make it posible? if some one know !
[21:15] <llutz> blackline: it might just not have sshd running. is it a pc running a mediacenter-software or a "blackbox mediacenter" with a limited OS?
[21:16] <blackline> llutz one of these: http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalog&mainItemId=12
[21:16] <blackline> all services are running according to the media center.
[21:17] <blackline> but i could restart them. i don't think that there is any issues on that side since i have connected through ssh with another pc (windows) before. I dont know if i mentioned but I reach the samba file share in nautilus as well. Just can't mount it (nor nfs)
[21:19] <llutz> whow, just 507 minutes to build OpenElec from git ...
[21:19] <llutz> whoops wrong channel, sorry
[21:19] <mcrawfor> jhutchins_wk: it is continuously burning 30% of cpu when no windows are even displayed
[21:20] <mcrawfor> and dragging a window side to side is slideshow-like
[21:20] <mcrawfor> so i suspect is not using hardware rendering properlyu
[21:20] <mcrawfor> perhaps i meant to say, which driver it is using, and how to select other drivers
[21:24] <blackline> llutz, i have to "throw in the towel" for today. i'll most definitely be back another day. thanks both to you and jhutchins_wk for your patience and helpfulness. People like you really make it more easy to trying to move over to Linux!
[21:24] <blackline> for today. bye!
[21:25] <llutz> blackline: last attempts "sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4:/SATA_DISK /mnt"
[21:26] <nearst> sup
[21:27] <mcrawfor> aha
[21:27] <blackline> llutz, mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.177:/SATA_DISK
[21:27] <mcrawfor> [  4592.758] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[21:27] <llutz> blackline: odd, nvm, goodnight for now :)
[21:27] <blackline> llutz, but it is correct that i have a sata disk internal in the popcorn hour, which i'm trying to reach.
[21:27] <blackline> you to!
[21:28] <nearst> what is popcorn?
[21:28] <mcrawfor> seeds of the corn plant, heated until they burst. it's delicious!
[21:28] <mcrawfor> :)
[21:29] <nearst> especially while at cinema
[21:29] <pozo> Hello all, trying to install desktop 12.10, 64 bit and it hangs on Copying installation logs. Is setup complete at that point and can I safely use the system?
[21:30] <nearst> worth to try
[21:30] <pozo> Google isn't my friend there, only found that it's a known bug
[21:30] <nickalex> list
[21:31] <d_r89> http://antoniodelmaestro.blogspot.it/
[21:32] <Miebster1> how do I get a more recent version of evolution? the package manager downloads an old one
[21:33] <pozo> Ghehe plugging out the usb drive sort of crashed the system... Looks like a good start :p
[21:33] <chazword> I have a 15 drive raid6.  For various reasons, 3 of these drives are marked as 'spare.'  However, I know them to be good drives that should be set active.  I'm having a difficult time figuring out how to make mdadm realize these drives are active and not spare.  Any thoughts?
[21:34] <pozo> Ah crap, it's booting windows... No grub yet it seems
[21:34] <genii-around> !info evolution quantal
[21:34] <nickalex> lis
[21:35] <Miebster1> I'm using 10.04 and the package manager is trying to install 2.28.3 of evolution
[21:36] <F3Speech> 2 15k 37gb raptor hdds arrived today to hold my new home server setup, its going to run mysql,sabnzb,indexer,etc. My question is should I raid 0 or 1 these drives or should i offline one as a backup for primary fail? Is the hdd likely to be the bottleneck on a pure processing machine for a 50mb line? Thanks
[21:36] <Miebster1> F3Speech: Mighty curious, why not ssds?
[21:37] <F3Speech> poverty :)
[21:37] <Todd> lol
[21:37] <Miebster1> F3Speech: How much do 2 raptors cost?
[21:37] <pozo> F3 you mean 50MBit/s right?
[21:37] <F3Speech> yes
[21:37] <pozo> Should be no issue with speed there
[21:37] <genii-around> !info evolution lucid-backports
[21:37] <F3Speech> got them for £12.50 each from reseller
[21:37] <genii-around> Hm
[21:38] <pozo> Use raid 0 if you don't need the space
[21:38] <F3Speech> pozo: you think 1 drive should be able to keepup fine without raid?
[21:38] <NuSuey> anybody know why is my PC still booting only XP (check http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493164/)
[21:38] <jackarg> ok I need help consisting of setting up ubuntu on a mac. it's an old 2006 mac mini and I'm installing ubuntu 12.04. do I have to dual boot (which requires creating a partition) or can i just totally erase the mac os x?
[21:39] <Miebster1> genii-around: do I have to download the source?
[21:39] <genii-around> Miebster1: I would probably look for a PPA with a more recent version first
[21:39] <xibalba> anyone here pretty familiar with 'less' or 'more' or any other paging app?
[21:39] <F3Speech> pozo: best case i get 6Mbs minmus processing overhead there cant me more than 4Mbs going to the disk
[21:40] <pozo> F3Speech: sure no problem at all, processor speed and download speed will be the bottleneck
[21:40] <llutz> !anyone | xibalba
[21:40] <xibalba> i know less can highlight a search, but i'm wondering if there is a way to make a 2nd highlighted string. So search for 'A' first, great found it, now i want to look for 'A' and 'B'
[21:40] <pozo> On a 7.2k disk I get 80 MB (real bytes, not bits) per second :)
[21:41] <F3Speech> pozo: ok on a related note, whould i see any general overall performance increase raid(1)ing the disks? I think I'll raid(0) for backup.
[21:41] <TvL2386> F3Speech, you're disks will do at least 50MB/s. I got 2 raptors 37GB but only 10k rpm in raid0... the setup goes over 100MB/s
[21:41] <nearst> !mdadm
[21:41] <NuSuey> still can't get my GRUB :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493208/
[21:41] <TvL2386> F3Speech, it's never near any limitation for your 50mbit line
[21:41] <Miebster1> genii-around: I'm not really sure how to do that other than type things into google until it looks good
[21:41] <NuSuey> allways booting into XP
[21:42] <F3Speech> TvL2386: what about 120Mbs? expecting line upgrade this year
[21:42] <guntbert> F3Speech: are you joking? raid 0?
[21:42] <nickalex> salve
[21:42] <medo> i am love Ubuntu so much ,but i have a problem with it , it make me crazy!
[21:42] <TvL2386> F3Speech, pozo: RAID1 is mirroring... thus backup.... You will get an array of 37GB which is comprised of 2 disks.
[21:42] <pozo> Oh shit meant to say 1 of course f3
[21:42] <nickalex> non sono pratico
[21:43] <pozo> Use mirroring for redundancy
[21:43] <nickalex> scusate
[21:43] <guntbert> !it | nickalex
[21:43] <nearst> NuSuey, update-grub ?
[21:43] <guntbert> !language > pozo
[21:43] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:43] <TvL2386> F3Speech, 50MB/s == 50*8 MBIT/s. So 120MBIT/s == 15MB/s... Your disks will do at least 50MB/s.... so never near that as well
[21:44] <medo> what can i do please?
[21:44] <F3Speech> TvL2386: yeah if i wont see any performance ill go for raid1
[21:44] <Miebster1> Can someone help me find a ppa or help me compile the latest version of evolution for 10.04?
[21:44] <CloudGuy> anyone knows how to do openvz on ubuntu ?
[21:44] <TvL2386> F3Speech, pozo check this for raid levels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Standard_levels
[21:44] <F3Speech> TvL2386: yeah i know in thory they arnt even close just wanted to ask :) thanks
[21:45] <pozo> Yeah I know, sorry, just realized it just before you send it :)
[21:45] <medo> any one help me pleas
[21:45] <NuSuey> nearst: crap. now I cant even boot anywhere. .. getting a Missing operating system .. error now
[21:45] <TvL2386> F3Speech, you are welcome. When you get a 500mbit line, I would start to worry about disk performance
[21:45] <nearst> !openvz | CloudGuy
[21:45] <CloudGuy> aah
[21:45] <CloudGuy> ok
[21:45] <pozo> Meant mirroring anyhow
[21:46] <nearst> NuSuey, try to install grub-pc then update-grub
[21:46] <F3Speech> TvL2386: would u advise any differnt use for the second disk other than raid 1 like swap or mouting particular directoryes?
[21:46] <nearst> ext4 + ntfs not big fan of grub2
[21:46] <pozo> Personally I use two disks as jbod, and mirror important files to both with a backup program
[21:46] <F3Speech> TvL2386: i cant imigine ill use any swap tbh, but i know know which parts of the fs are busy
[21:47] <TvL2386> F3Speech, single disk performance that is... I'd go for a RAID5 setup of 3 disks (got myself 6*1.5TB in RAID5)... Online extendable with mdadm if you get a new disk and online filesystem resizable with resize2fs (EXT2,3,4)
[21:47] <xibalba> pozo, thats for a home desktop though right? not production
[21:47] <pozo> But that's for long term storage, not something you need fast disks for
[21:47] <xibalba> TvL2386, never do a raid 5 on 3 disks if you want any sort of usable performance
[21:47] <NuSuey> nearst: package called grub-pc? cant find that.
[21:47] <TvL2386> xibalba, we're talking about a home server...
[21:47] <NuSuey> latest grub-repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493237/
[21:47] <F3Speech> xibalba: yeah its a home server
[21:47] <TvL2386> xibalba, simple storage...
[21:47] <xibalba> have you guys see FreeNAS ?
[21:47] <NuSuey> nearst: ah its installed
[21:48] <xibalba> Just use FreeNAS and call it a day
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> Unless you need more capacity than is available on a single drive RAID just adds new points of failure.
[21:48] <xibalba> ZFS/pools for the win
[21:48] <TvL2386> xibalba, nah... that's no fun! :-)
[21:48] <xibalba> yes it is
[21:49] <NuSuey> nearst: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[21:49] <F3Speech> xibalba: freenas run its own code or ontop of ubuntu server?
[21:49] <xibalba> ontop of a FreeBSD server
[21:49] <jak2000> hi all
[21:49] <jak2000> can i install a mydel.deb on my ubuntu server?
[21:49] <nearst> NuSuey, aw, what is that. try rerun sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[21:49] <jak2000> mysql.deb
[21:50] <F3Speech> xibalba: thats out for me then, i really want to stay with ubuntu for the support and other services im running
[21:50] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:50] <TvL2386> xibalba, zfs is very cool! It's on my todo list as the next filesystem for my linux server... Still need to figure out how to migrate 6*1.5TB to zfs without having to buy another 6*1.5TB -_-
[21:50] <xibalba> F3Speech, really? That's quite silly and you're limiting your scope of understanding
[21:50] <TvL2386> xibalba, I mean that I want to migrate to freebsd in order to get the fs
[21:50] <djshotglass> i want to install wine but its 80mb and i cant use that kind of bandwidth untill 2am but dont want to stay up that late
[21:51] <djshotglass> is there a way to apt-get install it that will auto answer yes
[21:51] <NuSuey> nearst: wtf. what are you talking about? Im just using the usb .. can't boot anywhere. what would updating the system on the usb freaking help me?
[21:51] <xibalba> TvL2386, yeah that's a tall order
[21:51] <F3Speech> xibalba: when you know little i dont think its silly to limit your scope :)
[21:51] <medo> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[21:51] <TvL2386> djshotglass, append -y
[21:51] <xibalba> F3Speech, eh i hear you. write it down at least and take a look at it and FreeBSD later when you're more up to speed
[21:51] <IncogTop> anyone ever use Sil3132 based esata cards before?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> NuSuey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[21:51] <F3Speech> xibalba: willdo thanks for the suggestion
[21:51] <jackarg> question: if installing ubuntu on mac, should I erase os x or dual boot with it?
[21:51] <nearst> NuSuey, owh. mount -o bind /dev, sys, proc. then chroot
[21:51] <xibalba> F3Speech, two projects you'll be intersted in www.freenas.org, www.pfsense.org (both freebsd based)
[21:52] <medo> help    help help help help anyyyyyyyyyyyyy heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:52] <IncogTop> If i boot the system up with a drive connected over esata itll freeze the system
[21:53] <F3Speech> so the final group view is i should just mount 1 drive and use the other for /home or something
[21:53] <xibalba> medo, what's your queef?
[21:53] <IncogTop> remove boots up....plug the drive back in or power it back on and it will work just fine until the drive "sleeps"
[21:53] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:53] <TvL2386> F3Speech, you have 2*37GB right... Why should /home be on a different disk?
[21:54] <nickalex> rajaniemi.freenode.net
[21:54] <Jordan_U> medo: Theatrics won't get you more support, it will however annoy the people you're trying to get free support from, which is less than productive.
[21:54] <xibalba> Jordan_U, why not help instead of typing your rant?
[21:54] <F3Speech> TvL2386: someone said with on 2 disks raid is just extra hassle when i dont need the performance
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> IncogTop: That suggests a bad connection.  Either something's wrong with the cable/connector or something's wrong with the drive.
[21:55] <IncogTop> jhutchins_wk, neither
[21:55] <Jordan_U> xibalba: Because I don't know how to help with xibalba's isaue, if I did I would have responded to their original question.
[21:55] <TvL2386> F3Speech, RAID is always a hassle... :) It's indeed easier to have 1 disk as your root filesystem and the other mounted in /home. But that does not divide the space
[21:55] <F3Speech> TvL2386: i have to agree why have a car that can go 300mph if you can only drive at 100mph :)
[21:55] <tromas> HI ve
[21:55] <medo> what can i do i asked this qu more and more
[21:55] <tromas> Hi everybody,
[21:55] <xibalba> medo,
[21:55] <xibalba> repeat it
[21:55] <IncogTop> TvL2386, mdadm seems nice enough
[21:55] <tromas> I have a problem with nvidia optimus. I want to disable it
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: You won't get performance increases without hardware raid.
[21:55] <xibalba> i'll give you info if i can medo
[21:55] <IncogTop> atleast for raid1
[21:55] <tromas> how can I do it?
[21:56] <IncogTop> oh for performance increase?
[21:56] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:56] <IncogTop> yea
[21:56] <xibalba> jhutchins_wk, not even read performance?
[21:56] <IncogTop> need hardware raid then
[21:56] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: none? wasnt aware of that
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> xibalba: Not measurable.
[21:56] <xibalba> medo, first make sue you're fully up2date w/apt-get update/upgrade
[21:56] <IncogTop> you can get some performance with raid0
[21:56] <IncogTop> but i wouldnt suggest that
[21:56] <TvL2386> F3Speech, You can also take a look at LVM. Maybe this will give you the flexibility you would like
[21:56] <medo> i did it
[21:56] <xibalba> LVM is garbage, dont use it
[21:56] <IncogTop> raid5 is good but you need atleast 3 drives for that and at that point a real hardware raid card ( note hardware raid...not HBA or some silly intergrated mess )
[21:56] <F3Speech> yeah
[21:57] <medo> it's up to dat
[21:57] <xibalba> IncogTop, dont suggest RAID5 w/3 drives man
[21:57] <xibalba> that's Disk I/O 101
[21:57] <IncogTop> xibalba, i see no problems with raid5 with 3 disks
[21:57] <IncogTop> its the bare minimum
[21:57] <IncogTop> but it works fine
[21:57] <xibalba> its awful, especially on 1.5 TB drives...if you had to rebuild that yo'll probably end up with 2 drive failures
[21:57] <xibalba> 'fine' it does not work like
[21:58] <IncogTop> xibalba, if this was mission critcal yes id agree
[21:58] <Jordan_U> IncogTop: You can certainly get performance benefits from software RAID, as long as the bottleneck is IO rather than CPU.
[21:58] <Guest9177> Dell OptiPlex 7010 MT standard pieces and ubuntu 12.04 install. LAN is not working stable. What can we do?
[21:58] <IncogTop> then id say raid6 with a bunch of drives
[21:58] <TvL2386> IncogTop, xibalba my homeserver started with raid5 3 disks (1.5TB Samsung ecogreen 5200RPM)... Did about 200MB/s... It evolved into 6*1.5 TB... Slowly extending and resizing... It's very good!
[21:58] <IncogTop> but this isnt mission critical
[21:58] <IncogTop> and raid isnt backup
[21:58] <IncogTop> just redundancy for that little extra protection
[21:59] <IncogTop> you should always have a backup of a backup
[21:59] <jackarg> can someone answer me?
[21:59] <xibalba> IncogTop, ha dont i know it. we have our backup backing up to backup #2
[21:59] <xibalba> using FreeNAS though
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> RAID really just provides more modes and points of failure.  Unless you need a bigger partition than the largest physical drive it's not worth it.
[21:59] <bs123> does FreeNas use samba?
[21:59] <xibalba> bs123, yes
[21:59] <bs123> thought so
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> jackarg: Sorry, don't see a question.
[21:59] <xibalba> and apple , NFS, rsync
[22:00] <IncogTop> as for my issue it seems to be an issue where it just times out
[22:00] <bs123> had it setup a few years ago
[22:00] <IncogTop> on "softreset"
[22:00] <F3Speech> jhut you think LVM is the best opting then just to make the space accessible or would you mount them seprate with /home etc
[22:00] <xibalba> alright i need to go before i frusterate myself
[22:00] <xibalba> F3Speech, lvm is garbage stay away
[22:00] <nearst> lol
[22:00] <Guest9177> does anyone know why a LAN connection is not stable on an Optiplex built by Dell
[22:00] <jhutchins_wk> !patience > mego
[22:00] <IncogTop> dell
[22:01] <F3Speech> lol come on guys, help a poor guy out stop disagreeing lol
[22:01] <TvL2386> you all say the correct things... But if someone just wants a simple fileserver at home where performance is not really a big issue and you just want a mountpoint that's able to provide lots of terabytes that can easily be extended.... Go for raid5 mdadm and choose a fs that is online extendible
[22:01] <IncogTop> theres your issue
[22:01] <IncogTop> mdadm is nice
[22:01] <Guest9177> is there a standard fix or system check I can do?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> jackarg: It's probably best to keep OSX to be able to do firmware updates.
[22:01] <NuSuey> nearst: so.. im booted to the usb.. so what should I do? :(
[22:02] <IncogTop> grr
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Guest9177: Ethernet?
[22:02] <Grizly> Guest9177: ethtool?
[22:02] <Guest9177> Ethernet yes
[22:02] <medo> i am sorry every one for annoying ,and thank you sallam !
[22:02] <jackarg> Jordan_U: now something else I wanna know. what are firmware updates?
[22:02] <Guest9177> what does ethtool exactly do?
[22:03] <Jordan_U> Guest9177: What type of stability problems specifically?
[22:03] <Guest9177> There is a connection failure randomly
[22:03] <TvL2386> and yeah yeah.... redundancy or backups withing the same system (or building) is not a real backup. When you get robbed or your server closet burns out (been there!), it's gone
[22:03] <Guest9177> other PCs can get access and with same cable a laptop. too
[22:04] <Jordan_U> jackarg: Firmware is code stored in your hardware.
[22:04] <Guest9177> Only Optiplex has problems
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> jackarg: If you get rid of OSX you won't be able to do firmware updates, that's about the only thing you loose.
[22:04]  * ElysiumNet sighs at software raid
[22:04] <ElysiumNet> why the hell does it keep trying to read from the obviously broken disk
[22:04] <ElysiumNet> instead of the disk that still works
[22:04] <jackarg> jhutchins_wk: I'm still unsure of the advantage firmware updates give you
[22:05] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, remove the broken disk and reboot? It would see a degraded array but won't have issues???? (taking a guess here, please proceed with caution!)
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> Nice!  A demonstration of exactly what I was saying: RAID is more trouble than it's worth!
[22:05] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: you would think a software raid wouldn't be *that* stupid
[22:05] <nearst> agree
[22:05] <ElysiumNet> "Oh hey, this disk is broken! LET'S BREAK IT SOME MORE!"
[22:06] <IncogTop> :|
[22:06] <ElysiumNet> while making the box nearly unusable by throwing iowait pikes
[22:06] <ElysiumNet> *spikes
[22:06] <bingoringo> if I want to set the default program for opening video files, do I need to set that for each filetype individually?
[22:06] <nearst> fsck?
[22:06] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, well, since it's software, I would guess it may have issues with hardware failures. The disk is not shielded from the OS as when it would be in a hardware raid
[22:06] <ElysiumNet> I thought it should do, "Hey, this sector is unreadable. Better use the other harddrive instead"
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> Let's see, in November we lost both the drive that had the array configuration on it and the backup battery on the controller.  In December we lost a drive and the array went RO.  Reseated the drive and it came right back, then failed again the next day.
[22:07] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: disk 2 so far hasn't even been touched for a single read. it's only been written to
[22:08] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, raid doesn't give you that kind of integrity... It just provides you with the data in case of a complete disk failure
[22:08] <ares_> Is possible to always keep on desktop selected display setting (resulution and refresh rate) Now after reloging or restart my display settings randomizes
[22:08] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, if one disks fails slowly... that will cause lots of issues
[22:08] <jackarg> Jordan_U: what advantage do firmware updates give you?
[22:08] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: ...it would be a rather basic thing to implement for a software raid?
[22:08] <ElysiumNet> "Hey, this sector is hard to read and screws up the box. let's not"
[22:09] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, but unfortunately it seems it doesn't work that way :-)
[22:09] <ElysiumNet> shouldn't I be able to just remove it with mdadm while the machine keeps running?
[22:09] <Guest9177> how can I find out whether the connection fails due to hardware or software?
[22:09] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: I so wish it did
[22:10] <jhutchins_wk> Guest9177: Try a different port on the switch.  What chipset is the system using?
[22:10] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, I'm hesitant to advise you anything, because I don't wanna be held accountable for screwing up your data, but I would turn it off, disconnect the broken disk. That way it can't cause issues for sure
[22:11] <jhutchins_wk> wpa
[22:11] <jak2000> http://pastebin.com/1ctpN7qj   i unpack:  sudo dpkg -i mysql-5.5.29-debian6.0-x86_64.deb    now? need run somwthing else?
[22:12] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, if you want self healing, use a FS like zfs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Data_Integrity
[22:12] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, good luck! I have to leave now
[22:12] <Grizly> Guest9177: ethtool lets you change the ethernet settings, dump the ethernet configs etc, from the device itself, see where and why, don't forget to grep dmesg
[22:13] <Timvde> Did Avant Window Navigator get removed from the default repositories?
[22:13] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: What are you trying to do?
[22:14] <Guest9177> Grizly: I will try this. Thanks.
[22:15] <pozo> Useless stuff, I used a different usb stick and still hanging on 'copying installation logs'... I did see' configuring GRUB' pop up so maybe it will work
[22:15] <nocturius> Hi, I'm trying to set up a LUKS root partition for multi-boot. But the installer (12.10) won't let me select the physical LUKS partition for the boot loader. Will it boot if I select /dev/mapper/..._crypt ? (I can't install it to the MBR, btw.)
[22:15] <jak2000> jhutchins_wk i download: mysql-5.5.29-debian6.0-x86_64.deb  from mysql.com i want install mysqlerver ..
[22:16] <zibords> hi
[22:16] <dkessel> jak2000, you just did
[22:16] <jak2000> jhutchins i know that i can install: apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 butnotis the actual(lastest) version of mysql...
[22:17] <nocturius> Also, what's the difference between installing the boot loader to "sda2_crypt" and "sda2_crypt Linux device-mapper (crypt)"?
[22:17] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: Why not just aptitude install mysql-server?
[22:17] <jak2000> dkessel: sudo dpkg -i ?
[22:17] <nearst> yup.
[22:17] <jak2000> jhutchins_wk but install the lastes mysql version?
[22:17] <dkessel> jak2000, sudo dpkg -i installed it
[22:18] <rscent> hi, can anyone help me?
[22:18] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: I believe you need the -server package, and if you use the one provided by ubuntu you know it's properly integrated with the system.
[22:18] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: Latest version means latest bugs.
[22:18] <jak2000> mmmm jhutchins_wk ok understand then..
[22:20] <Jordan_U> nocturius: You don't want grub's boot sector in either of those places. Grub's boot sector should go in the MBR of a real (or at least firmware-visible) device.
[22:22] <F3Speech> Whats the easiet way to clone a disk to another disk from the cli including grub etc? so it will boot if you remove the first?
[22:22] <troop> hello, can we do the same font render of windows in ubuntu ? beause i feel headache after 1 hour
[22:23] <magik_> troop why would you want them nasty windows fonts in Ubuntu? lmao
[22:24] <troop> because linux font render engine hurts my eyes
[22:24] <ares_> Where I could remove unity bar from starting list? ubuntu 12. I'm really confused in ubuntu12
[22:24] <magik_> ares_, I don't think you can do that but you can make it hide.
[22:24] <nearst> try backup as iso?
[22:25] <ares_> on 11 ubuntu version there was in setting Starting programs or smth like that. Where is it now?
[22:26] <magik_> ares_, I think it's because they switched to tthe Unity instead of GNOME.
[22:26] <danny_> how do i add folders to the left side of the file browser along with the home documents and that stuff
[22:26] <ares_> I will remove unity bar and replace it with gnome bar
[22:26] <magik_> ares_, that should solve your problem.
[22:27] <danny_> ares_: just search startup in unity and it will pop up
[22:27] <magik_> I personaly like the Unity shell
[22:28] <jak2000> jhutchins_wk wich is the difference into aptitude and apt-get ?
[22:29] <kristenbb> I tried to delete a directory but I get "directory is not empty". How can I delete it ?
[22:29] <nearst> rm -rf
[22:29] <F3Speech> rm -r <directory>
[22:29] <magik_> kristenbb, rm -r path
[22:29] <Jordan_U> kristenbb: *carefully* use "rm -r /path/to/directory/".
[22:29] <kristenbb> I still get the same error
[22:29] <Jordan_U> kristenbb: What is the exact command you're running?
[22:30] <kristenbb> well that one
[22:30] <kristenbb> rm -rf path/to/directory
[22:30] <magik_> You may need to sudo rm -r /path/to/directory
[22:30] <kristenbb> tried with sudo too
[22:30] <F3Speech> whats the directory
[22:30] <kristenbb> its name, you mean?
[22:30] <F3Speech> yeah
[22:31] <kristenbb> workspace
[22:31] <F3Speech> just workspace
[22:31] <jackarg> what are mac os x firmware updates and do i need them  or can i erase osx and install ubuntu please anyone?
[22:31] <jackarg> please
[22:31] <kristenbb> I cd into the parent of workspace, and typed rm -rf workspace
[22:31] <kristenbb> yeah just 'workspace'
[22:31] <magik_> that's the problem.
[22:31] <magik_> you need to be out of workspace
[22:31] <nearst> del workspace ?
[22:32] <magik_> so type cd
[22:32] <magik_> then type sudo rm -r /workspace/
[22:32] <kristenbb> magik_ I cded into the *parent of* workspace
[22:32] <F3Speech> parent of workspace is out of it :) wouldnt that delete /workspace from the root
[22:33] <magik_> is the directory empty or full?
[22:33] <kristenbb> empty
[22:33] <magik_> then just rmdir /workspace
[22:33] <kristenbb> same error
[22:33] <F3Speech> parent of workspace is out of it :) wouldnt that delete /workspace from the rootjust workspace
[22:34] <F3Speech> woops
[22:34] <magik_> ok, reboot into a shell instead of GUI and try it that way
[22:34] <F3Speech> its just workspace not /workspace
[22:34] <kristenbb> F3Speech: I didn't try that command, it was wrong.
[22:35] <kristenbb> F3Speech: but yeah I tried both full and relative path.
[22:35] <magik_> kristenbb, try Alt+F1 log into a tty and try it that way
[22:35] <AndreUbubtu> Hi people, my laptop webcam seems to work randomly (rarely) - mostly it doesnt. When I try to load up guvcview i get an error. A strange thing is that the webcam is shifting from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1....When I try to start guvcview on the new device path, it shifts back to the old path /dev/video0...and keeps doing this all the time. The webcam (HP TrueVision HD) seems to be detected, but every cam program gives the same error [libv4l2:
[22:35] <AndreUbubtu> error turning on stream: No such device] - I really need to get this sorted :(
[22:35] <F3Speech> so int eh parent of of workspace you typed "sudo rmdir workspace" and it failed?
[22:35] <kristenbb> magik_: there's no need to reboot, it's not in the system disk. it's a external usb disk.
[22:35] <F3Speech> you have the case right
[22:36] <F3Speech> ah could be permissions on the mount
[22:36] <kristenbb> F3Speech: yes that's right.
[22:36] <kristenbb> I mean
[22:36] <magik_> could be what F3Speech  said or you could need to format it.
[22:36] <kristenbb> F3Speech: yes that's right, I tried int eh parent of of workspace you typed "sudo rmdir workspace" and it failed?
[22:36] <nearst> ...
[22:37] <F3Speech> do you give a uid when mounting the drive?
[22:37] <imbezol> so i was doing a release upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and ran into a problem half way through... i hit z to enter a shell and compare two files. i hit ctrl-c to abort something i was doing in the shell and it aborted the upgrade process
[22:37] <kristenbb> F3Speech: I didn't mount it by hand
[22:37] <nashant> Alright guys. I'm having hard disk issues. Just run a smartctl long test, and it reported no errors. But the error log is showing errors, and when I try and use it I occassionally get errors
[22:37] <nearst> imbezol, try apt-get --fix-missing
[22:37] <magik_> kristenbb, It could be what F3Speech said and be permissions on the mount or you may just have to reformat because from the parent directory typing sudo rmdir workspace should work.
[22:37] <kristenbb> F3Speech: but I can delete other files in the disk
[22:37] <imbezol> i ended up with the screen session getting killed off and a dpkg process was running in the background.. had to kill it to remove the lock.
[22:38] <Jordan_U> nashant: What log and what errors specifically?
[22:38] <kristenbb> magik_: I know it should work, that's why I found it weird and came here for help.
[22:38] <Gyro54> How do I change the Enter Key function? I need to change it from CR to CR/LF
[22:38] <Jordan_U> imbezol: Do *not* kill the dpkg process, at least not yet. It's likely completing important steps.
[22:38] <magik_> kristenbb, try unmount and remount if that don't work backup your data and reformat the drive.
[22:38] <imbezol> Jordan_U: i had to as it had a bash -i hanging off it and i had no way to get to it
[22:39] <F3Speech> kristenbb: the files you can delete could have been added after the mount?
[22:39] <imbezol> Jordan_U: ie, it was waiting for me to finish my shell
[22:39] <Manzo> !lista
[22:39] <kristenbb> F3Speech: can you rephrase please ?I'm not sure I understand your question.
[22:39] <Jordan_U> imbezol: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to finish configuring any packages.
[22:39] <nashant> Jordan_U: smartctl -l error, and uncorrectable data errors. Then yesterday, before I zero filled it, it failed a conveyance test after 10%
[22:40] <F3Speech> kristenbb: i mean do you use the usb in windows etc and its those you cant delete but files u create in ubuntu u can delete?
[22:40] <nearst> ouch.
[22:41] <nashant> Jordan_U: My problem is, I want to have it in a 9TB LVM, but when I do my system beeps at me sporadically. If almost 12k lifetime hours a lot?
[22:41] <imbezol> Jordan_U: heh.. well.. i dunno what i'd try fixing. the release version is set to 12.04.1 now.
[22:42] <kslater> time to see if suspend / resume works. And to see if hot-docking still works too.
[22:42] <AndreUbubtu> please help :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493527/
[22:42]  * kslater goes off for an adventure
[22:42] <imbezol> Jordan_U: when i try aptitude full-upgrade it lists a tonne including a whole X environment. this is a server that's never had X
[22:42] <kristenbb> F3Speech: do you mean to ask whether this particular file was added in ubuntu or in a Windows platform ? I don't recall.
[22:42] <Muphrid> kristenbb: can you create files on this usb drive?
[22:43] <kristenbb> Muphrid: yes
[22:44] <F3Speech> kristenbb: yes sorry my typing it a bit lax, i would trest that first then i would say its pretty much you just need to add a user to your fstab and should sort it...?
[22:44] <F3Speech> kristenbb: to the line relating to your usb mount ofc :)
[22:44] <kristenbb> F3Speech: magik_:    in any case, I tried to unmount and remount the drive, and now I still experience the same issue, however I now also sometimes get a different error message : "unable to trash file: invalid argument".
[22:44] <celeroninuse> I gave 12.04LTS a shot last week and it hard locked playing music. Anyone else having problems?
[22:45] <F3Speech> kristenbb: now that i havent experience off sorry
[22:45] <Muphrid> kristenbb: is that the only file giving problem?
[22:45] <kristenbb> Muphrid: yes
[22:45] <Roubles> Hi I tried to make a bootable usb of 12.04 with unetbootin, but when I boot up my computer I get an error "ERROR: No configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! boot: "
[22:45] <imbezol> is there a way to resume a failed do-release-upgrade ?
[22:45] <Roubles> ^ Is this a problem with mini.iso ?
[22:45] <kristenbb> Muphrid: well, that I know of. But at least some others are not having the same issue.
[22:45] <nashant> The announcement about Ubuntu Mobile is awesome, can't wait for that!
[22:45] <F3Speech> Roubles: if your pc quite old?
[22:45] <Muphrid> kristenbb: is seems that particular file is corrupted or does not exist anymore, by that error
[22:46] <Roubles> F3Speech: It is.
[22:46] <magik_> kristenbb, better backup your data from the drive and reformat
[22:46] <Jordan_U> imbezol: Have you done "sudo dpkg --configure -a" yet?
[22:46] <celeroninuse> I actually had to physcially switch off the system
[22:46] <kristenbb> Muphrid: could be, wouldn't it end up in lost+found though in that case ?
[22:46] <imbezol> Jordan_U: that doesn't do anything
[22:46] <Roubles> F3Speech: That's why I am trying to use the mini.iso, because of PAE processor incompatibility.
[22:46] <F3Speech> Roubles: could be your usb boot is usb-zup not usb-hdd and your pc wont boot from live image format
[22:46] <Muphrid> kristenbb: not that i know of, have you tried to F5 the main dir?
[22:47] <F3Speech> Roubles: usb-zip i ment
[22:47] <Jordan_U> imbezol: Good, then you don't have further packages to configure. What about "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[22:47] <kristenbb> Muphrid: well yeah in the sense that I unmounted and remounted it.
[22:47] <Gyro54> celeroninuse: I have a 12.04 which locks up when playing from website music. Not sure why
[22:47] <F3Speech> Roubles: i just had the exact same problem
[22:47] <celeroninuse> Gyro54: Well its dissapointing for a LTS
[22:47] <imbezol> Jordan_U: same as "aptitude full-upgrade". it wants to pull in a tonne of X stuff
[22:47] <Roubles> F3Speech: In the BIOS boot options I see USB HDD listed at the top.
[22:47] <imbezol> Jordan_U: lists 249 new packages to be installed
[22:47] <Jordan_U> Roubles: What system did you try to make it from? That sounds like a syslinux error, maybe because you used a system with an old and incompatable version of syslinux.
[22:48] <mikubuntu_> whats the address for the photo(bin?) site?
[22:48] <Roubles> Jordan_U: I made it with ubuntu 10.something or 11.something.
[22:48] <Aperol> hello folks
[22:48] <Gyro54> celeroninuse: It is 1 x desktop and I think I will just kill the whole machine and reinstall.
[22:48] <mikubuntu_> whats the address for the photo(bin?) site?
[22:49] <Aperol> no dont do that u can use the reset-function (start cmd and type "idiotami")
[22:49] <Fenaralan> how do I remove a zombie procsess?
[22:49] <Aperol> the adress is photoadr.ess
[22:49] <Gyro54> How do I change the Enter Key function? I need to change it from CR to CR/LF
[22:49] <Aperol> dunno eat its brain
[22:49] <Aperol> press t and then the new key
[22:49] <DJones> Aperol: Do you have an Ubuntu support question
[22:49] <jhutchins_wk> Aperol: Please stop.
[22:50] <Aperol> yes how do i turn it into mac?
[22:50] <celeroninuse> gyro54: Well I'm waiting for the next LTS. A hard lockup playing music and a few tabs isn't worth switching over for.
[22:50] <Fenaralan> how do I remove a zombie process?
[22:50] <Aperol> im waitin for the next std
[22:50] <Muphrid> kristenbb: and what if you actually refresh it by f5?
[22:50] <Aperol> not, dont
[22:50] <kristenbb>  Muphrid the folder is still there
[22:50] <Fenaralan> anyone can tell?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Roubles: That's probably the problem then. You should be able to dd the iso to a USB drive (be very careful with dd though).
[22:51] <Slart> Gyro54: I think it might be easier to change a textfile from using CR to CR/LF than to change the actual result of pressing enter
[22:51] <mikubuntu_> Aperol, why did you lie to me.  I am here looking for help.
[22:51] <Aperol> ok sry
[22:51] <Fenaralan> anyone can help me?
[22:51] <Gyro54> celeroninuse: I think that unit is on 12.04.1 but I am not sure. I have 6 x others which have no problems. They don't play as much music though
[22:51] <Aperol> no
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> Fenaralan: If kill -9 doesn't do it (it probably won't) the only cure is a reboot.
[22:51] <Fenaralan> yeah tried that
[22:51] <Fenaralan> wow
[22:51] <Fenaralan> i dont wanna reboot ;_;
[22:51] <Tex_Nick> !patience | Fenaralan
[22:52] <Slart> Gyro54: this might be helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/2392/re-mapping-keyboard-keys
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> Fenaralan: Kinda by definition a zombie is unkillable.
[22:52] <Fenaralan> is it bad to leave it there?
[22:52] <Aperol> oh yes, sweet jesus! this hilarious support here is so giving me a boner!
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Fenaralan: Have you tried killing its parent?
[22:52] <Aperol> no
[22:52] <Fenaralan> yes
[22:52] <Fenaralan> ima pastebin
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> Fenaralan: It's certainly not taking any CPU, might have some RAM but that's probably not critical.
[22:53] <Slart> Fenaralan: a zombie process doesn't use any resources afaik, I don't think you can get rid of them unless you reboot the machine (except in some special cases)
[22:53] <Gyro54> Slart: Thanks
[22:53] <mikubuntu_> DJones, user Aperol may pose a danger to other users who might follow his flip comments and damage a system.
[22:53] <Fenaralan> http://pastebin.com/G9xFyQv9
[22:53] <DJones> mikubuntu_: They're already gone
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> mikubuntu_: He gone.
[22:53] <Fenaralan> oh
[22:53] <Fenaralan> well thats what i see
[22:54] <mikubuntu_> thx -- i hardly knew him
[22:54] <Slart> Gyro54: if you do decide to start messing with xmodmap make sure you read about it first.. there is no easy to way to just "restore things back to normal" apart from rebooting..
[22:54] <F3Speech> server file systems is there any particular that should be aimed for, im looking at ext3 as default but intrested on anyones views. thanks
[22:54] <Muphrid> kristenbb: is it showing in "ls -lih" and what is the size?
[22:54] <Miebster1> When I run the following command "ssh root@hostnmae 'bash -s' <shellscript.sh argument" it doesn't work because there is a line in the shellscript.sh that runs another shell script (located on the remote host) that contains a command that the local host doesn't recognize.  How can I execute the script on the remote host instead?
[22:55] <Roubles> Jordan_U: OK I will try that.
[22:55] <Slart> F3Speech: depends on what you're going to do with them.. some are better at big files, some are better at small files.. other have other advantages such as stability and security..
[22:55] <beboj_> need help:http://askubuntu.com/questions/235859/running-sierra-wireless-gobi-2000-under-ubuntu
[22:56] <F3Speech> Slart: i think ill be dealing with alot and fragmented traffic then shipping the end result out to nas
[22:56] <mikubuntu_> i'm having trouble with dvd playback -- want to post a pic of my screen, but i can't remember the 'photobin'  paste up address?
[22:56] <Slart> F3Speech: I would say that for general purpose ext3/ext4 is ok.. I've used xfs on some drives in my server but I didn't see any obvious differences
[22:56] <Roubles> Jordan_U: Just to be sure, it's the iso that I should dd to usb right? Not another file?
[22:56] <DJones> mikubuntu_: Try imagebin
[22:56] <kristenbb> Muphrid: well it's a folder so it doesn't really have a size, does it? But yeah it shows in ls -lih and the size shown is 8K
[22:57] <F3Speech> Slart: thanks
[22:57] <VlanX> anyone here with Intel 82571GB NIC?
[22:57] <mikubuntu_> DJones, thx -- i kept trying photobin couldn't remember
[22:57] <DJones> !imagebin | mikubuntu_
[22:57] <DJones> That was what I was trying to remember
[22:57] <Slart> F3Speech: have a look at the wikipedia articles for ext3, ext4, xfs and perhaps zfs if that is useful on ubuntu by now.. that should give you some idea about what there is to choose from
[22:57] <Jordan_U> Roubles: Correct.
[22:57] <Gyro54> Slart: The problem is due to Libreoffice with creating a CSV file to use on windows. LO only creates a CR where Windows creates a CR/LF. My file needs the LF
[22:58] <Slart> Gyro54: oh.. but surely that is a preference somewhere in libreoffice.. it has to be.. or you could just change it afterwards
[22:58] <Muphrid> kristenbb: 8K for an empty folder? you probably have deleted the files from there and did not empty the trash bin.
[22:58] <Slart> Gyro54: I would definately not mess with xmodmap for that..
[22:58] <kristenbb> Muphrid: 8k might be the block size.
[22:59] <Gyro54> Slart: The LO people have pointed to the OS
[22:59] <Muphrid> kristenbb: my empty folders are 6 bytes long, not 8k
[22:59] <Slart> !info tofrodos | Gyro54
[23:00] <Slart> Gyro54: that one might work, make sure you read the man page first
[23:00] <Gyro54> Slart: Thanks
[23:00] <Slart> Gyro54: are you using libreoffice writer or libreoffice calc to create the csv file?
[23:00] <Gyro54> Slart: LO Calc
[23:01] <mikubuntu_> http://imagebin.org/241612  can't get proper playback in any media player on my system.  i tried (re)installing libdvdread4 (and reboot), but still same prob as illustrated at imagebin link
[23:01] <Roubles> Jordan_U: It worked. :)
[23:01] <kristenbb> Muphrid: 6 bytes is not possible, no file system would store only 6 bytes, besides 6 bytes is not even enough to store the folder name and its attributes (time...)
[23:01] <Roubles> Jordan_U: At least the USB is booting now.
[23:03] <Gyro54> Slart: I have used my laptop to create the same file and it appears OK using Pinguy. Not sure what the difference is.
[23:04] <Slart> Gyro54: here are some suggestions from the openoffice forums.. not sure if they work http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=56991
[23:04] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu_: Do you have that problem with all video files or just DVDs?
[23:05] <nearst> try vlc or smplayer
[23:05] <jak2000> http://pastebin.com/9CqTf3Q6   <--- why acces deneied....
[23:06] <jak2000> i am type the corret password, need specify the user on the scp command?
[23:08] <AndreaUbuntu> I don't get the logic of a cam that works once out of the blue....but does not on X amount of restarts, then works again at some random point.....
[23:09] <Slart> AndreaUbuntu: might be the order in which kernel modules load, or some kind of racing condition ie doesn't work if the system mounts that harddrive before it checks for the cam driver
[23:09] <Gyro54> Slart: That is exactly the problem. I am thinking character set and will check what the other computer is set to. Thanks again
[23:09] <DaemonicApathy> jak2000: scp <file> <user>@<IP>:<path>
[23:09] <Slart> Gyro54: you're welcome, hope you get it figured out.. and shame on the libreoffice people for not having some kind of checkbox for file ending =)
[23:10] <AndreaUbuntu> Slart, I also dont get why my device keeps shifting from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 and back when trying and re-trying guvcview
[23:10] <WeThePeople> how do i find out where the mysql db is running
[23:10] <nocturius> just to be sure.... there's no way to boot a LUKS root partition without an unencrypted /boot partition - right?
[23:10] <WeThePeople> to connect to
[23:10] <Gyro54> Slart: I am sure they will pick this up.
[23:11] <AndreaUbuntu> Slart, sometimes even goes up to /dev/video13....magically works a while, then doesnt work anymore
[23:12] <AndreaUbuntu> I really would love to avoid dualbooting/vm-ing into a Windows install just to make skype calls xD
[23:12] <Slart> AndreaUbuntu: webcams is closer to black magic than logic in my experience.. I'm just happy I don't have to use one for anything serious
[23:13] <AndreaUbuntu> Slart, ye....always had trouble setting them up....but usually it was just a skype problem needing a Preload or something.....but now its all over the system
[23:13] <jrtappers_> AndreaUbuntu, You have installed skype already on ubuntu?
[23:13] <AndreaUbuntu> jrtappers, yes it is installed
[23:13] <jrtappers_> ok
[23:14] <AndreaUbuntu> the system also sees my HP TrueVision HD cam....
[23:15] <Jordan_U> nocturius: It's possible to have /boot/ within LUKS, but it doesn't make much sense to do so.
[23:15] <AndreaUbuntu> but i get black screen on skype, as well as cheese etc. SOMETIMES the cam works after some restart.....and the device shifts from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 and back and forth everytime a cam program is used......still....i get the same errors all over....
[23:15] <AndreaUbuntu> libv4l2: error turning on stream: No such device
[23:16] <AndreaUbuntu> it seems the device is found, but just cant be started up....then restart the system and 1/100 times it works :S
[23:16] <AndreaUbuntu> it's not even fair magic :)
[23:18] <AndreaUbuntu> i was reading somewhere it could be a serious issue with USB Bus speeds and kernels :S
[23:18] <AndreaUbuntu> which is quite a radical bug to solve
[23:21] <mikubuntu_> Jordan_U: sorry, got called away.  i haven't had any issues with web video, seems only with dvd that i know of ...
[23:21] <DJJeff> gpio_ich: failed to claim resource 0 http://pastie.org/5618577 should I be worried about this?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu_: Try playing a video file with the same player that you're playing the DVD with.
[23:22] <alexander__b> what is the practical differences between running ubuntu with KDE and kubuntu?
[23:23] <alexander__b> -/is/are
[23:23] <Jordan_U> AndreaUbuntu: Mostly a stab in the dark, but have you tried using a powered USB HUB?
[23:23] <mikubuntu_> Jordan_U: i don't really have any video files saved, usually just watch what is streamed my way
[23:23] <AndreaUbuntu> Jordan_U, what do u mean? this is an integrated webcam
[23:24] <mikubuntu_> Jordan_U: i have watched dvd's in the past, just not recently, but don't remember ever having similar issue
[23:25] <Jordan_U> AndreaUbuntu: Ignore that then. There was someone in here a few days ago who had problems with a USB connected camera and solved it by using a powered USB HUB. Though most internal webcams are still connected via USB, so if you have a lot of other USB devices connected that draw a lot of power it might be worth trying to disconnect some of them.
[23:26] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu_: Different applications use different APIs to get video to the screen, so my guess is that your problem is with your graphics drivers, and is not specific to DVDs but rather to whatever accelerated rendering your video player is trying to use.
[23:27] <AndreaUbuntu> Jordan_U, i've got my usb mouse....nothing else...PS cam is fine itself, since it works ok on Windows 7. However I do require a "thermal.off=1" kernel setting. Otherwise the fans never work...and trackpad/keyboard lock up.
[23:28] <dmdrummond> Is there a channel for discussing development for the new mobile platform?
[23:29] <AndreaUbuntu> i just unplugged my mouse, cam still wont work...replugged my mouse...and mouse aint working :S
[23:29] <Robbilie> dmdrummond, not yet
[23:29] <Robbilie> the source isnt avaiö yete
[23:29] <mikubuntu_> Jordan_U: i tried playback on vlc and movie player, both same problem.  i just tried banshee media, and playback is fine.  that solves the immediate problem, thanks.  having another pesky issue. whenever i reboot or start my computer, i have to re-enter the passkey for wireless -- is there some reason that this isn't stored persistantly?
[23:30] <xangua> !discuss | dmdrummond Robbilie
[23:31] <anonymous> So....who wants to help with an interesting issue I'm having? lol
[23:31] <adamk> anonymous: Just ask your question.
[23:31] <anonymous> So....my calculator is spitting out the wrong answers lol.
[23:32] <mikubuntu_> Jordan_U: and the one other (also pesky) problem i have is that the system tray at the bottom of my screen sometimes comes on, and sometimes doesn't.  if i minimize an app, it goes somewhere, i guess, but it doesn't go into the tray
[23:32] <AndreaUbuntu> anonymous, have u tried turning it off and on again? :)
[23:32] <anonymous> That I have :D
[23:32] <AndreaUbuntu> haha
[23:32] <Mise00001> is it set to decimal or hex or other?
[23:33] <Mise00001> Is the issue with addition, division or some other operation? Which ones?
[23:33] <anonymous> Well, mostly multiplication.
[23:33] <Mise00001> Does it get all answers wrong or just some?
[23:33] <AndreaUbuntu> 2x2 != 4? :D
[23:33] <anonymous> Just some lol.
[23:33] <anonymous> Usually if it's a larger number.
[23:33] <AndreaUbuntu> example? ;D
[23:33] <Slart> anonymous: you will have to give us some examples
[23:33] <Mise00001> Can you give some examples?
[23:33] <anonymous> Alright. 20,000 X 10
[23:34] <anonymous> That's what, 200k?
[23:34] <AndreaUbuntu> what does it give?
[23:34] <anonymous> I get either 2 million
[23:34] <anonymous> Or 20 thousand
[23:34] <AndreaUbuntu> LOL
[23:34] <nocturius> What's the minimum recommended  /boot size for 12.10? I can't find a mandatory answer anywhere... and recommendations range from 60 to 250mb....
[23:34] <AndreaUbuntu> i get 200k
[23:34] <AndreaUbuntu> :P
[23:35] <anonymous> lol yeah, well, I should too
[23:35] <anonymous> lol
[23:35] <nocturius> I plan to use LVM+LUKS, if that's relevant
[23:35] <Slart> anonymous: you get *either*... as in you type it in again and get a different result?
[23:35] <anonymous> Well, really depends. It changes from time to time.
[23:35] <anonymous> Sometimes I get 20,000
[23:35] <AndreaUbuntu> madness :D
[23:35] <anonymous> Sometimes I get 2 million.
[23:35] <rypervenche> nocturius: I use 100MiB, but that's overkill for what I need.
[23:35] <Slart> anonymous: what calculator is this?
[23:35] <anonymous> Basic that's bundled with Ubuntu 12.10
[23:36] <AndreaUbuntu> any weird upgrades u did?:S
[23:36] <adamk> anonymous: So what I'm taking away from this is that sometimes you do 20000x1 and sometimes you do 20000x100  :-)
[23:36] <anonymous> LOL I promise I'm not, I'm in the banking industry I don't fail THAT much.
[23:36] <AndreaUbuntu> now we know why the banks screwed us all over :D
[23:36] <anonymous> Nah, I didn't touch it. Just ran upgrades today, then it started happening.
[23:36] <AndreaUbuntu> ubuntu's calc!
[23:36] <Slart> anonymous: you need to record some kind of movie with this.. or a bunch of screenshots
[23:37] <AndreaUbuntu> hmm
[23:37] <Mise00001> Ahhh banking industry....calculator returning incorrect answers......likely story...tell it to the judge~ j/k
[23:37] <nocturius> rypervenche: ok, so 100mb should be future-proof?
[23:37] <AndreaUbuntu> upgrades, and it happened... :S
[23:37] <Mise00001> :)
[23:37] <AndreaUbuntu> maybe some bug in the updates?
[23:37] <AndreaUbuntu> mines up to date
[23:37] <AndreaUbuntu> and gives right answer
[23:37] <rypervenche> nocturius: Unless you need more than 5 kernels at a time, it'll be fine.
[23:38] <anonymous> Meh. I have a Mac I usually work on so it's not imperative that it works.
[23:38] <anonymous> I was calculating something for a minute and I'm like wait, I can't be that broke lol
[23:38] <Slart> anonymous: have you tried running it from a terminal? just to see if it prints out any error messages
[23:39] <adamk> Open up a bug report, and grab a video of it being broken.
[23:39] <nocturius> rypervenche: ok, thx
[23:39] <anonymous> No, let me try hold on Slart
[23:39] <Stopp> ,
[23:39] <Stopp> ,
[23:40] <nocturius> oh, another question: does the choice between ext2/3/4 matter for /boot?
[23:40] <nocturius> with regard to robustness, mostly
[23:40] <anonymous> That's interesting.
[23:40] <anonymous> Isn't it 'galculator' to run from terminal?
[23:40] <Slart> anonymous: gnome-calculator
[23:41] <anonymous> Nope, no error messages.
[23:41] <anonymous> I'll post a video on the forums in  the next hour or so.
[23:41] <Slart> anonymous: oh.. no error messages.. odd.. I get a gtk warning although my version does give me correct answers
[23:42] <anonymous> I receive no such errors :/
[23:43] <rypervenche> nocturius: Go with ext2
[23:43] <ikonia> why ?
[23:43] <ikonia> why use ext2
[23:43] <Slart> anonymous: what does apt-cache policy gcalctool tell you?
[23:44] <anonymous> Slart:  Installed: 6.6.0-0ubuntu1
[23:44] <anonymous>   Candidate: 6.6.0-0ubuntu1
[23:44] <anonymous>   Version table:
[23:44] <anonymous>  *** 6.6.0-0ubuntu1 0
[23:44] <anonymous>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages
[23:44] <anonymous>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[23:44] <FloodBot1> anonymous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <Slart> anonymous: no no no.. no pasting in the channel.. but the output is the same as on my machine.. what if you try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcalctool" and try doing the calculation again
[23:45] <anonymous> My bad.
[23:45] <anonymous> I'll try.
[23:45] <anonymous> One moment.
[23:46] <AndreaUbuntu> why does stuff break so easily the newer distros get :S
[23:46] <rypervenche> AndreaUbuntu: They don't always. It depends on the distro.
[23:47] <AndreaUbuntu> I love ubuntu's interface....but man it was so much more solid around 10.10
[23:47] <seednode> My distro, although infamous for breaking easily, hasn't ever had issues for me
[23:47] <dr_willis> Non LTS releases are normally for testing new ideas and thus may be more unstable.
[23:48] <dr_willis> Ive not really had any issues with 12.10
[23:48] <AndreaUbuntu> i found 12.10 more stable than 12.04 to be honest!
[23:48] <AndreaUbuntu> 12.04 just kept bringing up that report tool
[23:48] <AndreaUbuntu> over and over again
[23:48] <AndreaUbuntu> crashing this and crashing that
[23:48] <dr_willis> AndreaUbuntu:  or it just had some old logs that never got cleaned out.. so it kept reporting the same crash
[23:48] <AndreaUbuntu> alas, my webcam worked on 12.04 but not on 12.10 :S
[23:49] <dr_willis> That may be more of a kernel issue then a ubuntu issue.  But i rarely mess with webcams
[23:49] <AndreaUbuntu> dr_willis, yes, i think its kernel too
[23:49] <cnuulhu> Hey guys, I'm upgrading from a very old version of Ubuntu to 12.04 (LTS) using a fresh install. I'm familiar with using rsync -av on /home to back up user files and settings, but how do I restore from that backup after upgrading?
[23:50] <Tex_Nick> best thing to do ... check the distro hardware compatibility ... then custom build the pc with compatible components
[23:50] <bekks> Just use rsync -av again.
[23:50] <AndreaUbuntu> dr_willis, old logs for a new install? :)
[23:50] <dr_willis> AndreaUbuntu:  ive seen where a single crash just gets reported over and over.. its easy to clean out apport/disable it.
[23:50] <AndreaUbuntu> I also love the changes to buttons etc on 12.10
[23:50] <cnuulhu> bekks: So, even without having to create new users or anything, just rsyncing with /home on the new system will create those new users for me?
[23:50] <AndreaUbuntu> can they be applied to 12.04?
[23:51] <cnuulhu> [Is my question clear?]
[23:51] <bekks> cnuulhu: No. rsync will recreate their files.
[23:51] <blami> cnuulhu: no
[23:51] <blami> cnuulhu: rsync just transfer their files
[23:51] <dr_willis> I alwyas am sure to add users on a new system, back in the same order. ;) but with 4 users.. thats easy to rember
[23:51] <cnuulhu> So, I re-add the new users, then rsync their home directories back in?
[23:52] <blami> dr_willis: that's why I use local ldap
[23:52] <bekks> A copy of /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow willbe helpfull.
[23:52] <blami> dr_willis: just sync from backup ... I think it would be lot easier to migrate and manage systems if ubuntu came with that setup as default
[23:53] <bekks> blami: LDAP by default?:P
[23:53] <AndreaUbuntu> well good night my fellow ubuntusers
[23:53] <cnuulhu> bekks: So, syncing /home as well as /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow will be sufficient to re-add the previous users as well as their files?
[23:53] <bekks> cnuulhu: No.
[23:53] <bekks> cnuulhu: helpfull != sufficient
[23:54] <bekks> In addition with /etc/group these three files contain all necessary information to manually recreate the users.
[23:54] <blami> cnuulhu: I wouldn't do that ... rather note information about users and just recreate them with same uid gid and groups they belong to ...
[23:54] <blami> bekks: except passwords :)
[23:54] <bekks> blami: /etc/shadow ...
[23:54] <demondin> hi
[23:55] <cnuulhu> blami: Okay, that's easy enough. This is just a home desktop, everyone can re-enter their passwords as necessary.
[23:55] <Hiros> hello
[23:55] <blami> copying hashes by hand?
[23:55] <demondin> you guys obviously use ubuntu, right?
[23:55] <cnuulhu> Thank you all very much.
[23:55] <blami> bekks: I bet ordinary users wouldn't notice they are using local ldap, hm?
[23:55] <F3Speech> Having problems moving file system from usb to hdd, have moved file system, installed grub, updated, updated fsbab mounts. on reboot with usb still i can choose the new disk and it boots find no problems, however as soon as i remove my usb i appear to lose access to sudo etc and system starts chruning error about missing fs. any ideas how to finilise the fs transfer so i can remove my original usb.
[23:56] <demondin> i have a question about ubuntu
[23:57] <demondin> ello?
[23:57] <bekks> blami: local LDAP will not help you at all. You'll have to restore the LDAP config instead of three files only.
[23:58] <F3Speech> demondin: ask your question someone will answer if they know
[23:58] <demondin> okay
[23:58] <demondin> i want to install ubuntu on my older laptop (not really old) but im just worried about losing all the files...is that going to happen?
[23:58] <blami> bekks: it does. If you have reasonable configuration you just copy it over and then import original schema
[23:59] <blami> bekks: (and copy home directories) ... tada, everything done
[23:59] <blami> bekks: no need to fiddle with passwords, groups, etc.
[23:59] <bekks> blami: Which is the SAME effort as just recreating the users according to the three files.
[23:59] <F3Speech> demondin: short answer is yes, back them up first
[23:59] <blami> bekks: in case of 4 users, sure (but still I am lazy)