Noskcajwhy is lubuntu the only ubuntu distro that doesn't have separate volume controlls for headphones and inbuilt speakers?01:25
holsteinNoskcaj: AFAIK, its the one that isnt using pulse audio02:25
holsteinNoskcaj: you are welcome to install it.. or maybe one of the other distros might be a better out-of-the-box fit for your needs02:26
holsteinNoskcaj: i added pulse audio to lubuntu, tested something, and removed it.. not too challenging at all02:28
Noskcajholstein, thanks for the info. i am considering swapping back to xubuntu but i have 30gb of movies to watch that i don't want to delete and i just put in heaps of themes an hour ago02:29
holsteinNoskcaj: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. just as lubuntu is02:31
holsteinif you have lubuntu, just install XFCE or the xubuntu-desktop metapackage02:32
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »02:33
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »02:33
Noskcajholstein, thanks for the links, when i get back from my holiday i think i will change02:49
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Ailoswhats the best way to install graphics drivers?04:36
PlooziProprietary or open source?04:45
PlooziActually, I'm too intoxicated to be giving advice.04:50
Ailosi got it, found it in the software center04:58
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Akhilleussalve vorrei installare The Samsung Unified Linux Driver Repository13:21
Akhilleusnessuno potrebbe aiutare una ragazza che ha installato lubuntu???13:24
Akhilleusvorrei abilitare i samsung driver repository13:24
Akhilleuse non riesco13:24
SonikkuAmericaHey, quick question: (12.10) How do I change the print size of items on the screen (readability)?14:41
PlooziHas anyone had the error, "Failed to execute child process "lubuntu-logout" (No such file or directory)" while attempting to log out?14:55
bennypr0fanehello, does anyone know how to change audio hardware settings in Lubuntu 12.04? Specifically, I want to set my bluetooth headphones as output device. You can see my issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042456 there haven't been any replies to it in months15:46
bennypr0fanehowever, I cna't even find where to access audio settings in the first place...15:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: i might consider using pulse audio16:19
holsteinbennypr0fane: i might fire up xubuntu live or main ubuntu and test and see if using pulse simplifies your situtaion16:19
bennypr0faneholstein is there gui for it?16:19
holsteinbennypr0fane: pavucontrol is nice16:20
holsteinotherwise, you should just start a bluetooth manager, and make sure the bluetooth is connected16:20
bennypr0faneit is, i made sure16:21
bennypr0fanethe connection is up, but no sound in the headphones16:21
holsteinalso, there are audio settings in alsa mixer16:21
holsteinalsamixer in the terminal16:21
holsteinwhenever i am doing more than just a simple setup, i use pulse16:22
holsteinor, im using JACK and i dont care about system sounds at all16:22
bennypr0faneIn alsmixer I can't find how to set the output device16:23
bennypr0faneinstalled pulse audio. of course (sorry, Lubuntu) there isn't a starter for it in the menu16:23
holsteinbennypr0fane: a starter?16:24
holsteinbennypr0fane: lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse, so there wont be a "starter"16:24
holsteinbennypr0fane: if you have pulse installed, and configured properly, install pavucontrol16:24
bennypr0faneI mean a menu entry to click on in order to access pulse aduio16:25
bennypr0fanethere isn't one for pavucontrol either16:25
holsteinbennypr0fane: ?16:25
holsteinbennypr0fane: there wont be any menu item for pulse16:25
holsteinbennypr0fane: there never is16:25
holsteinbennypr0fane: you can start pavucontrol from the terminal and test16:26
bennypr0faneoh, wait, there it is. just not titled pavucontrol16:26
holsteinshould be pulse audio volume control in the menu somewhere16:26
bennypr0faneit's called pulse audio volume control16:26
holsteinsure.. and you can start it either way you like16:26
holsteinbut i would test its functionality, then bother with if you need it around or not, and how to launch it16:27
bennypr0fanewell the headset is not listed as an output device in pavucontrol16:28
holsteinbennypr0fane: then i argue its connectivitiy16:29
bennypr0faneconectivity of what?16:29
holsteinbennypr0fane: make certain some bluetooth manager is using/seeing it16:29
holsteinbennypr0fane: the headphones that are not presenting them selves in pulse16:29
bennypr0faneyes, blueman sees the connection up16:29
holsteinbennypr0fane: i would test with something like skype16:30
holsteinbennypr0fane: i would try with a live cd of something running pluse16:30
bennypr0fanetest what eaxaclty?16:31
bennypr0fanei don't care whether the mic works, my main concern is for the sound to got to the headset, not audio card16:32
bennypr0fanewhich it doesn't right now16:32
holsteinbennypr0fane: test the device with pulse audio in a system that has shipped pulse and is configured properly16:32
bennypr0fanemaybe it's about the bt services16:32
holsteinbennypr0fane: otherwise, you are troubleshooting multiple things at once right now16:32
bennypr0fanedoes ubuntu ship with puplse?16:32
holsteinbennypr0fane: AFAIK, lubuntu ships without it16:32
holsteinotherwise, xubuntu ships with it, and ubuntu.. as i suggested trying live CD's for above16:33
bennypr0fanebecause it works there,  on another conmputer though, laptop /w bt built in16:33
bennypr0fanedebian on this machine doesn't even see my bt adpater16:34
bennypr0faneso does it say anything useful if the headset works in Ubuntu on another pc? or should I test with ubuntu on this one?16:34
holsteinbennypr0fane: it says that it works with pulse in ubuntu16:36
holsteinbennypr0fane: if it does... id sayd that means it *can* work with lubuntu then, since lubuntu *is* ubuntu16:37
bennypr0fanethen no need to test with an ubuntu cd, yes?16:37
bennypr0fanejust need to figure out how to make pulse see the device16:37
bennypr0faneright now, I got 2 services connected: headset and audio sink. is one of them a2dp? because I think that's the service I need to connect16:39
holsteinwhen you say bt built in.. if you have a bt dongle, i might troubleshoot is seperately16:40
bennypr0fanegood idea, how can I go about that?16:41
bennypr0fanethere is nothing about my adapter in blueman16:41
holsteini would try a known good bt device16:41
holsteini would try removing variables16:42
holsteini would try a live CD on the integrated bt hardware.. see that you get that headset and all that working16:42
bennypr0faneI'm actually surprised it works, because I can't find anything in system.16:42
holsteinmove to the other rig, and replicate the procedure...16:42
bennypr0faneI don't have any other bt device that works with this pc. I do have an older bt dongle with 2.0, and it displays the very same issues16:43
bennypr0faneyou mean a live cd of Lubuntu, in that case?16:44
bennypr0faneI actually have Lubuntu installed  as well on the laptop (the one with built-in bt chip)16:45
holsteinbennypr0fane: i was suggeting the headset.. i suggest a live CD since it removes the user config16:45
bennypr0fanewell I don'T have another bt headset either...16:45
holsteinyou load a xubuntu live CD on the hardware that was working with the headset.. test.. repeat that *exact* same procedure on the other machine16:45
holsteinthe only change is the BT adapter16:45
bennypr0fanewhy xubuntu?16:45
holsteinbennypr0fane: some live CD with pulse16:46
bennypr0fanesorry, not following :-(16:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: use what you want16:46
holsteinDaviey: dont do anything im suggesting16:46
holsteinDaviey: sorry16:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: ^^16:46
bennypr0faneok, which pc, which bt chip, which external hw?16:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: bot16:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: both*16:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: change only the bt adapter16:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: test on the machine that you said it worked with.. test with a live CD that you can boot on the other machine that is *not* working16:47
bennypr0fanewell, like i said, the other adapter has the same problem16:47
holsteinif you do everything the same, then the adapter is likey the issue16:47
holsteinin which case, you can stop looking in audio settings as its not an audio issue16:47
bennypr0faneah, you mean put the adapter into the other machine16:48
holsteinbennypr0fane: do whatever you feel will isolate that hardware16:48
bennypr0fanethe adapter16:48
holsteinbennypr0fane: i would run a live CD on the machine that has the itegreated BT hardware.. i would boot that.. test the headset.. see that it works16:48
holsteinTHEN, i would repeat that *exaxt* same thing on the other box16:48
bennypr0faneyes it does16:48
bennypr0faneoh, but not tested on live CD, just installed system16:49
holsteinbecause, due to the above test, the headset shoud work16:49
holsteinbennypr0fane: i like the live CD since that is less changes16:49
bennypr0faneI still don't get why the live cd is nevess16:49
bennypr0fane*scratch that16:49
holsteinbennypr0fane: its not.. its just isolating points of failure16:49
bennypr0fane"fewer changes"... :-)16:50
holsteinbennypr0fane: what if the machine with the integrated BT hardware is configured properly?16:50
bennypr0faneI see16:50
holsteinbennypr0fane: what if the pulse on the other one is not configureed?16:50
holsteinis it different bluetooth GUIs?16:50
bennypr0fanethat one is gnome, this one is lxde16:50
holsteini would remove *all* of these questions.. test witn one OS... the same live CD OS16:50
holsteinif its gnome from 10.04, that would be relevant.. that is a different kernel16:51
bennypr0faneno, Gnome from 12.04. when you say hardware, please say exactly which one you mean, bcs hardware can mean pretty much any device16:51
holsteinthat is likely a point of failure.. an older kernel that supports the BT usb dongle.. and the newer lubuntu 12.x kernel not supporing16:52
holsteinbennypr0fane: the BT dongle..16:52
holsteinbennypr0fane: what isnt working? is it the headset? or the dongle?16:52
holsteinbennypr0fane: is the dongle capable or working with linux?16:52
holsteinbennypr0fane: that is what you havent dont16:52
holsteinand right now, you are testing 3 other variables and that at eh same time (at least)16:53
holsteinis its LXDE? is the the bluetooth software in lubuntu? is it pulse audio? is it gnome? is the the kernel version?16:54
holsteinminimize the variables and isolate the bt hardware16:54
bennypr0faneok, I need to isolate the dongle. that means I need to test it a) on a different pc with b) a different audio and c) a different headset, right? but i don't have c) ! I just know that this headset does work on the other pc with Ubuntu, and with Windows16:55
holsteini wouldnt use windows for anything other than "is the headset broken"16:56
holsteinthe drivers are different and it doesnt help16:56
holsteinwhat i would do: boot the machine with the integrated BT with the headset and a live CD... *if* that headset works fine on that hardare with that live cd, then...16:58
bennypr0faneIf I test this headset with the same OS, the same audio (Pulse), but a different bt hardware (built-in chip), than it's proof that the donlge is the culprit, right?16:58
holsteintake that same live CD to the hardware you have now, and test16:58
holsteinif the headset is not working then the big relevant change is the BT dongle16:58
holsteini think this would be good evidence that its the dongle...16:59
bennypr0fanelemme think...16:59
bennypr0fanewhat if I use a live USB of Lubuntu, install Pulse Audio and then try the same thing? wouldn't that be even better (bcs it's closer to my setup here) than using a live CD of another distro that ships with pulse?17:01
bennypr0faneah, you mean if the distro ships with pulse, that would exclude errors in LXDE/Lubuntu?17:02
holsteinbennypr0fane: whatever you feel will isolate the dongle17:03
holsteinbennypr0fane: trying lubuntu live on the hardare with integrated BT would be a good relevant test as well17:03
bennypr0faneok, I may be getting the picture... stupid dongle. the manufacturer doesn't even offer linux drivers for download. That's why I wonder how Lubuntu made it work/find the driver. You got any explanation for that?17:05
holsteinbennypr0fane: the ubuntu kernels tries to support what it can17:06
bennypr0faneyes but how, if there isn' a driver?17:08
bennypr0fanedo you happen to know if +buntu live images have an integrated bootloader?17:09
holsteinbennypr0fane: sure, there is something that boots the live instance17:09
holsteinbennypr0fane: there are drivers in the kernel for what is supportable17:09
holsteindoesnt mean they are good or work with all hardware17:10
bennypr0fanecause i recently came across a distro that gives non-bootable images17:10
TheLordOfTimelike Debian?  :P17:10
TheLordOfTimenah, i kid, there's a lot of non-live-image distros out there17:10
bennypr0faneI didn't know that17:11
bennypr0faneDebian must be using a different kernel then, bcs it can't see this bt dongle17:11
bennypr0faneok gotta go, thank you holstein17:14
holsteinbennypr0fane: good luck..17:14
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TheLordOfTimeare there 13.04 images for Lubuntu, for testing purposes, yet?18:33
TheLordOfTime(no answer from #ubuntu+1)18:33
wxlTheLordOfTime: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/18:38
TheLordOfTimewxl, thanks.18:39
wxlTheLordOfTime: np18:40
Bor3yhow to change themes in lubuntu ?19:30
Moewedo u tried that?19:31
Noskcajbot3y, prefernences > customise look and feel19:31
MoeweNoskcaj, i think these ist lxappearance, isnit?19:32
Noskcajyes, it is. just how he gets to it19:33
NoskcajBor3y, some good ideas for themes https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/19:33
Moewemy lubuntu is german19:33
Moeweso i cant say the way ;)19:33
Bor3yyes thank you i changed it :)19:34
Bor3yit's my first time use lubuntu , i want to know whats the different between lubuntu and ubuntu and kubuntu ?>19:34
holsteinlubuntu *is* ubuntu.. they all use the same repos.. they are all built on the ubuntu core, and share kernels19:35
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity19:35
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.19:35
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels19:35
Moewea lots of programms releated to the use, look and feel :P19:35
holsteinlubuntu is ubuntu with LXDE.. kubuntu with KDE.. etc.. the default config is the basic difference19:35
holsteinif you install lxde in ubuntu, are you running lubuntu? not really.. but more that is kind of how you get to lubuntu from ubuntu19:36
holsteinnothing pulls in interest like a wall of facts ;)19:37
Noskcajlol, and ubot spam19:37
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Combat_Wombatanyone have any tips/tricks I should know using vmware workstation in lubuntu?23:53
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