| Noskcaj | why is lubuntu the only ubuntu distro that doesn't have separate volume controlls for headphones and inbuilt speakers? | 01:25 |
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| holstein | Noskcaj: AFAIK, its the one that isnt using pulse audio | 02:25 |
| holstein | Noskcaj: you are welcome to install it.. or maybe one of the other distros might be a better out-of-the-box fit for your needs | 02:26 |
| holstein | Noskcaj: i added pulse audio to lubuntu, tested something, and removed it.. not too challenging at all | 02:28 |
| Noskcaj | holstein, thanks for the info. i am considering swapping back to xubuntu but i have 30gb of movies to watch that i don't want to delete and i just put in heaps of themes an hour ago | 02:29 |
| holstein | ? | 02:31 |
| holstein | Noskcaj: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. just as lubuntu is | 02:31 |
| holstein | if you have lubuntu, just install XFCE or the xubuntu-desktop metapackage | 02:32 |
| holstein | !purexfce | 02:33 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 02:33 |
| holstein | !purelxde | 02:33 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » | 02:33 |
| Noskcaj | holstein, thanks for the links, when i get back from my holiday i think i will change | 02:49 |
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| Ailos | whats the best way to install graphics drivers? | 04:36 |
| Ploozi | Proprietary or open source? | 04:45 |
| Ploozi | Actually, I'm too intoxicated to be giving advice. | 04:50 |
| Ailos | i got it, found it in the software center | 04:58 |
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| Akhilleus | salve vorrei installare The Samsung Unified Linux Driver Repository | 13:21 |
| Akhilleus | nessuno potrebbe aiutare una ragazza che ha installato lubuntu??? | 13:24 |
| Akhilleus | vorrei abilitare i samsung driver repository | 13:24 |
| Akhilleus | e non riesco | 13:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Hey, quick question: (12.10) How do I change the print size of items on the screen (readability)? | 14:41 |
| Ploozi | Has anyone had the error, "Failed to execute child process "lubuntu-logout" (No such file or directory)" while attempting to log out? | 14:55 |
| jerli | hi... | 15:37 |
| bennypr0fane | hello, does anyone know how to change audio hardware settings in Lubuntu 12.04? Specifically, I want to set my bluetooth headphones as output device. You can see my issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042456 there haven't been any replies to it in months | 15:46 |
| bennypr0fane | however, I cna't even find where to access audio settings in the first place... | 15:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i might consider using pulse audio | 16:19 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i might fire up xubuntu live or main ubuntu and test and see if using pulse simplifies your situtaion | 16:19 |
| bennypr0fane | holstein is there gui for it? | 16:19 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: pavucontrol is nice | 16:20 |
| holstein | otherwise, you should just start a bluetooth manager, and make sure the bluetooth is connected | 16:20 |
| bennypr0fane | it is, i made sure | 16:21 |
| bennypr0fane | the connection is up, but no sound in the headphones | 16:21 |
| holstein | also, there are audio settings in alsa mixer | 16:21 |
| holstein | alsamixer in the terminal | 16:21 |
| holstein | whenever i am doing more than just a simple setup, i use pulse | 16:22 |
| holstein | or, im using JACK and i dont care about system sounds at all | 16:22 |
| bennypr0fane | In alsmixer I can't find how to set the output device | 16:23 |
| bennypr0fane | installed pulse audio. of course (sorry, Lubuntu) there isn't a starter for it in the menu | 16:23 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: a starter? | 16:24 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse, so there wont be a "starter" | 16:24 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: if you have pulse installed, and configured properly, install pavucontrol | 16:24 |
| bennypr0fane | done | 16:24 |
| bennypr0fane | I mean a menu entry to click on in order to access pulse aduio | 16:25 |
| bennypr0fane | there isn't one for pavucontrol either | 16:25 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: ? | 16:25 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: there wont be any menu item for pulse | 16:25 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: there never is | 16:25 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: you can start pavucontrol from the terminal and test | 16:26 |
| bennypr0fane | oh, wait, there it is. just not titled pavucontrol | 16:26 |
| holstein | should be pulse audio volume control in the menu somewhere | 16:26 |
| bennypr0fane | it's called pulse audio volume control | 16:26 |
| bennypr0fane | yes | 16:26 |
| holstein | sure.. and you can start it either way you like | 16:26 |
| holstein | but i would test its functionality, then bother with if you need it around or not, and how to launch it | 16:27 |
| bennypr0fane | ok | 16:27 |
| bennypr0fane | well the headset is not listed as an output device in pavucontrol | 16:28 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: then i argue its connectivitiy | 16:29 |
| bennypr0fane | conectivity of what? | 16:29 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: make certain some bluetooth manager is using/seeing it | 16:29 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: the headphones that are not presenting them selves in pulse | 16:29 |
| bennypr0fane | yes, blueman sees the connection up | 16:29 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i would test with something like skype | 16:30 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i would try with a live cd of something running pluse | 16:30 |
| holstein | pulse* | 16:30 |
| bennypr0fane | test what eaxaclty? | 16:31 |
| bennypr0fane | i don't care whether the mic works, my main concern is for the sound to got to the headset, not audio card | 16:32 |
| bennypr0fane | which it doesn't right now | 16:32 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: test the device with pulse audio in a system that has shipped pulse and is configured properly | 16:32 |
| bennypr0fane | maybe it's about the bt services | 16:32 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: otherwise, you are troubleshooting multiple things at once right now | 16:32 |
| bennypr0fane | does ubuntu ship with puplse? | 16:32 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: AFAIK, lubuntu ships without it | 16:32 |
| holstein | otherwise, xubuntu ships with it, and ubuntu.. as i suggested trying live CD's for above | 16:33 |
| bennypr0fane | because it works there, on another conmputer though, laptop /w bt built in | 16:33 |
| bennypr0fane | debian on this machine doesn't even see my bt adpater | 16:34 |
| bennypr0fane | so does it say anything useful if the headset works in Ubuntu on another pc? or should I test with ubuntu on this one? | 16:34 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: it says that it works with pulse in ubuntu | 16:36 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: if it does... id sayd that means it *can* work with lubuntu then, since lubuntu *is* ubuntu | 16:37 |
| bennypr0fane | then no need to test with an ubuntu cd, yes? | 16:37 |
| bennypr0fane | just need to figure out how to make pulse see the device | 16:37 |
| bennypr0fane | right? | 16:38 |
| bennypr0fane | right now, I got 2 services connected: headset and audio sink. is one of them a2dp? because I think that's the service I need to connect | 16:39 |
| holstein | when you say bt built in.. if you have a bt dongle, i might troubleshoot is seperately | 16:40 |
| bennypr0fane | good idea, how can I go about that? | 16:41 |
| bennypr0fane | there is nothing about my adapter in blueman | 16:41 |
| holstein | i would try a known good bt device | 16:41 |
| holstein | i would try removing variables | 16:42 |
| holstein | i would try a live CD on the integrated bt hardware.. see that you get that headset and all that working | 16:42 |
| bennypr0fane | I'm actually surprised it works, because I can't find anything in system. | 16:42 |
| holstein | move to the other rig, and replicate the procedure... | 16:42 |
| bennypr0fane | I don't have any other bt device that works with this pc. I do have an older bt dongle with 2.0, and it displays the very same issues | 16:43 |
| bennypr0fane | you mean a live cd of Lubuntu, in that case? | 16:44 |
| bennypr0fane | I actually have Lubuntu installed as well on the laptop (the one with built-in bt chip) | 16:45 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i was suggeting the headset.. i suggest a live CD since it removes the user config | 16:45 |
| bennypr0fane | well I don'T have another bt headset either... | 16:45 |
| holstein | you load a xubuntu live CD on the hardware that was working with the headset.. test.. repeat that *exact* same procedure on the other machine | 16:45 |
| holstein | the only change is the BT adapter | 16:45 |
| bennypr0fane | why xubuntu? | 16:45 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: some live CD with pulse | 16:46 |
| bennypr0fane | sorry, not following :-( | 16:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: use what you want | 16:46 |
| holstein | Daviey: dont do anything im suggesting | 16:46 |
| holstein | Daviey: sorry | 16:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: ^^ | 16:46 |
| bennypr0fane | ok, which pc, which bt chip, which external hw? | 16:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: bot | 16:46 |
| holstein | boht* | 16:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: both* | 16:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: change only the bt adapter | 16:46 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: test on the machine that you said it worked with.. test with a live CD that you can boot on the other machine that is *not* working | 16:47 |
| bennypr0fane | well, like i said, the other adapter has the same problem | 16:47 |
| holstein | if you do everything the same, then the adapter is likey the issue | 16:47 |
| holstein | in which case, you can stop looking in audio settings as its not an audio issue | 16:47 |
| bennypr0fane | ah, you mean put the adapter into the other machine | 16:48 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: do whatever you feel will isolate that hardware | 16:48 |
| bennypr0fane | the adapter | 16:48 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i would run a live CD on the machine that has the itegreated BT hardware.. i would boot that.. test the headset.. see that it works | 16:48 |
| holstein | THEN, i would repeat that *exaxt* same thing on the other box | 16:48 |
| bennypr0fane | yes it does | 16:48 |
| bennypr0fane | oh, but not tested on live CD, just installed system | 16:49 |
| holstein | because, due to the above test, the headset shoud work | 16:49 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: i like the live CD since that is less changes | 16:49 |
| bennypr0fane | I still don't get why the live cd is nevess | 16:49 |
| bennypr0fane | *scratch that | 16:49 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: its not.. its just isolating points of failure | 16:49 |
| bennypr0fane | "fewer changes"... :-) | 16:50 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: what if the machine with the integrated BT hardware is configured properly? | 16:50 |
| bennypr0fane | I see | 16:50 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: what if the pulse on the other one is not configureed? | 16:50 |
| holstein | is it different bluetooth GUIs? | 16:50 |
| bennypr0fane | yes | 16:50 |
| bennypr0fane | that one is gnome, this one is lxde | 16:50 |
| holstein | i would remove *all* of these questions.. test witn one OS... the same live CD OS | 16:50 |
| holstein | if its gnome from 10.04, that would be relevant.. that is a different kernel | 16:51 |
| bennypr0fane | no, Gnome from 12.04. when you say hardware, please say exactly which one you mean, bcs hardware can mean pretty much any device | 16:51 |
| holstein | that is likely a point of failure.. an older kernel that supports the BT usb dongle.. and the newer lubuntu 12.x kernel not supporing | 16:52 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: the BT dongle.. | 16:52 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: what isnt working? is it the headset? or the dongle? | 16:52 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: is the dongle capable or working with linux? | 16:52 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: that is what you havent dont | 16:52 |
| holstein | done* | 16:52 |
| holstein | and right now, you are testing 3 other variables and that at eh same time (at least) | 16:53 |
| holstein | is its LXDE? is the the bluetooth software in lubuntu? is it pulse audio? is it gnome? is the the kernel version? | 16:54 |
| holstein | minimize the variables and isolate the bt hardware | 16:54 |
| bennypr0fane | ok, I need to isolate the dongle. that means I need to test it a) on a different pc with b) a different audio and c) a different headset, right? but i don't have c) ! I just know that this headset does work on the other pc with Ubuntu, and with Windows | 16:55 |
| holstein | i wouldnt use windows for anything other than "is the headset broken" | 16:56 |
| holstein | the drivers are different and it doesnt help | 16:56 |
| holstein | what i would do: boot the machine with the integrated BT with the headset and a live CD... *if* that headset works fine on that hardare with that live cd, then... | 16:58 |
| bennypr0fane | If I test this headset with the same OS, the same audio (Pulse), but a different bt hardware (built-in chip), than it's proof that the donlge is the culprit, right? | 16:58 |
| holstein | take that same live CD to the hardware you have now, and test | 16:58 |
| holstein | if the headset is not working then the big relevant change is the BT dongle | 16:58 |
| holstein | i think this would be good evidence that its the dongle... | 16:59 |
| bennypr0fane | ok | 16:59 |
| bennypr0fane | BUT | 16:59 |
| bennypr0fane | lemme think... | 16:59 |
| bennypr0fane | what if I use a live USB of Lubuntu, install Pulse Audio and then try the same thing? wouldn't that be even better (bcs it's closer to my setup here) than using a live CD of another distro that ships with pulse? | 17:01 |
| bennypr0fane | ah, you mean if the distro ships with pulse, that would exclude errors in LXDE/Lubuntu? | 17:02 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: whatever you feel will isolate the dongle | 17:03 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: trying lubuntu live on the hardare with integrated BT would be a good relevant test as well | 17:03 |
| bennypr0fane | ok, I may be getting the picture... stupid dongle. the manufacturer doesn't even offer linux drivers for download. That's why I wonder how Lubuntu made it work/find the driver. You got any explanation for that? | 17:05 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: the ubuntu kernels tries to support what it can | 17:06 |
| bennypr0fane | yes but how, if there isn' a driver? | 17:08 |
| bennypr0fane | do you happen to know if +buntu live images have an integrated bootloader? | 17:09 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: sure, there is something that boots the live instance | 17:09 |
| bennypr0fane | good | 17:09 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: there are drivers in the kernel for what is supportable | 17:09 |
| holstein | doesnt mean they are good or work with all hardware | 17:10 |
| bennypr0fane | cause i recently came across a distro that gives non-bootable images | 17:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | like Debian? :P | 17:10 |
| bennypr0fane | no | 17:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | nah, i kid, there's a lot of non-live-image distros out there | 17:10 |
| bennypr0fane | elive | 17:10 |
| bennypr0fane | I didn't know that | 17:11 |
| bennypr0fane | Debian must be using a different kernel then, bcs it can't see this bt dongle | 17:11 |
| bennypr0fane | ok gotta go, thank you holstein | 17:14 |
| holstein | bennypr0fane: good luck.. | 17:14 |
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| TheLordOfTime | are there 13.04 images for Lubuntu, for testing purposes, yet? | 18:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | (no answer from #ubuntu+1) | 18:33 |
| wxl | TheLordOfTime: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 18:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl, thanks. | 18:39 |
| wxl | TheLordOfTime: np | 18:40 |
| leszek | hi | 19:02 |
| Bor3y | how to change themes in lubuntu ? | 19:30 |
| Moewe | LXAppearance | 19:31 |
| Moewe | do u tried that? | 19:31 |
| Noskcaj | bot3y, prefernences > customise look and feel | 19:31 |
| Moewe | Noskcaj, i think these ist lxappearance, isnit? | 19:32 |
| Noskcaj | yes, it is. just how he gets to it | 19:33 |
| Moewe | ok | 19:33 |
| Noskcaj | Bor3y, some good ideas for themes https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ | 19:33 |
| Moewe | my lubuntu is german | 19:33 |
| Moewe | so i cant say the way ;) | 19:33 |
| Bor3y | yes thank you i changed it :) | 19:34 |
| Bor3y | it's my first time use lubuntu , i want to know whats the different between lubuntu and ubuntu and kubuntu ?> | 19:34 |
| Noskcaj | !lxde | 19:35 |
| holstein | lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. they all use the same repos.. they are all built on the ubuntu core, and share kernels | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | !unity | 19:35 |
| ubottu | Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04. Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | !kde | 19:35 |
| ubottu | KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | !xfce | 19:35 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 19:35 |
| Moewe | a lots of programms releated to the use, look and feel :P | 19:35 |
| holstein | lubuntu is ubuntu with LXDE.. kubuntu with KDE.. etc.. the default config is the basic difference | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | exactly | 19:36 |
| holstein | if you install lxde in ubuntu, are you running lubuntu? not really.. but more that is kind of how you get to lubuntu from ubuntu | 19:36 |
| holstein | nothing pulls in interest like a wall of facts ;) | 19:37 |
| Noskcaj | lol, and ubot spam | 19:37 |
| flyabove | I am back. If someone replied, please repeat. | 23:34 |
| flyabove | Where can I view the log of this channel? | 23:37 |
| flyabove | !log | 23:45 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 23:45 |
| flyabove | !root | 23:45 |
| ubottu | Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 23:45 |
| flyabove | !login | 23:46 |
| ubottu | use @login | 23:46 |
| wxl | flyabove: may i ask what in the smurf you are trying to do? | 23:49 |
| Combat_Wombat | anyone have any tips/tricks I should know using vmware workstation in lubuntu? | 23:53 |
| wxl | Combat_Wombat: if you need help with virtualbox, i'm all over it. no clue with vmware. i thought there was a page for it on the ubuntu wiki tho i'm not sure how much you need to translate to make it work for lubuntu. | 23:53 |
| wxl | !vmware | 23:53 |
| ubottu | VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware | 23:53 |
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