jcastro | jono: hah | 00:44 |
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jcastro | Have you ever used a Nexus phone (like Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4) with ICS? If so, how can you claim the interface is not beautiful and polished? | 00:44 |
jcastro | I have, and I can claim the interface is not beautiful and polished. | 00:44 |
jcastro | that's the best thing I've heard all day | 00:45 |
jono | jcastro, lol :-) | 00:45 |
jcastro | jono: ah! look at this one | 01:21 |
jcastro | http://ubuntuone.com/0FKiUDgpT7cxBcvVpO5sN4 | 01:22 |
jono | jcastro, who did that? | 01:29 |
jcastro | some guy, it's posted here: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/how-create-currency-converter-app-ubuntu-phones-step-step-official-guide | 01:33 |
SergioMeneses | jcastro, ++ | 01:33 |
SergioMeneses | btw good evening | 01:33 |
mhall119 | 45 minutes to go through the currency converter tutorial, and that include a break to put the kids to bed | 02:15 |
mhall119 | not bad at all | 02:15 |
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hrabbey | Hi; Not sure which channel / path best. | 03:00 |
hrabbey | Trying to figure out where / who best to contact for setting up a quick face-to-face chat on 1/9 at CES 2013 in Las Vegas. | 03:00 |
hrabbey | Company reason for chat: We are helping IVI (via GENIVI) with Navigation (Mapping, GPS, etc.) core tech. | 03:01 |
hrabbey | I am interested in how IVI-Remix and Ubuntu phone could mesh with that work. | 03:01 |
hrabbey | To put it a different way: Any plans yet for the project /workgroup to put maps & location support in Ubuntu phone? | 03:02 |
hrabbey | I will drop by the booth in any case, but it is nice to avoid that the best person to talk to did not just step away for a break. | 03:05 |
bkerensa | hrabbey: There is a formhttp://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us | 03:27 |
mhall119 | hi hrabbey | 03:28 |
mhall119 | popey: are you around to help hrabbey? | 03:28 |
mhall119 | or jono ? | 03:28 |
mhall119 | hrabbey: if you come back around here in, say, 12 hours, there will be more folks around :) | 03:29 |
hrabbey | Will do. So this is an OK channel for the question then? | 03:31 |
hrabbey | I always hesitate on forms, cause I feel they are impersonal, and the form kind of hinted they didn't have time to talk to anyone other than phone manufacturers. | 03:32 |
hrabbey | If it is a waste of time, I do not want to waste their time. | 03:32 |
JoseeAntonioR | hrabbey: this is the right channel to ask, and it's not a waste of time :) | 03:34 |
JoseeAntonioR | the people in charge are away, so if you come back you'll probably find them onlie | 03:34 |
hrabbey | Thanks. I'll check back in tomorrow then. | 03:35 |
JoseeAntonioR | thanks to you for the interest! :) | 03:35 |
hrabbey | I figured it was a bit late, but hoped I could at least get a hint that I was on the right track. | 03:35 |
hrabbey | Thanks for all the work in making Ubuntu the great platform it is and will be. | 03:36 |
jono | hrabbey, can you email me? | 03:41 |
jono | jono@ubuntu.com | 03:41 |
hrabbey | Sure. Will do. | 03:41 |
jono | thanks! | 03:42 |
hrabbey | My pleasure. Good night. | 03:43 |
marcoceppi | Hey jono, if you're around would you care to weigh in on this: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/5682/do-we-need-a-new-ubuntu-for-phones-tag The AU community is in a strong disagreement with the mobile tag being used for the tablet and phone questions on the site. Is there a preferred tag from a Canonical standpoint? | 04:05 |
marcoceppi | I just want to make sure the right people track the right tags on your end | 04:05 |
jono | marcoceppi, thanks for letting me know | 04:06 |
jono | I will weigh in | 04:06 |
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dpm | gooooood morning everyone! | 09:55 |
czajkowski | dpm: is there a place to send web app developers to in particular? | 10:14 |
dpm | hi czajkowski, on IRC, if they've got questions specific to Ubuntu web apps, then #ubuntu-webapps. If they've got questions about app development in general (including web development), then #ubuntu-app-devel. For questions on Ask Ubuntu the tag is 'application-development' | 10:16 |
dpm | and we probably have a tag for web apps there, let me see if I can find it... | 10:16 |
czajkowski | dpm: cool and is there any website ? | 10:17 |
dpm | czajkowski, http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/ | 10:18 |
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czajkowski | dpm: perfect thanks | 10:19 |
dpm | np. There's also http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/webapps, but it's more for user questions rather than for dev questions | 10:19 |
czajkowski | nods | 10:20 |
czajkowski | cheers | 10:20 |
AlanBell | dpm: most of that is outdated and doesn't quite work | 10:54 |
dpm | AlanBell, what do you refer to by "that" | 10:56 |
AlanBell | http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/javascript/ for example, I think if you click all the links the calls are wrong | 10:56 |
dpm | AlanBell, I don't have a 12.04 system to test. Do you think, or do you know they are wrong? If they are wrong and you could file a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal/+filebug I can fix those docs myself on the site. | 11:00 |
AlanBell | they are wrong in 12.10, they used to wrok | 11:01 |
AlanBell | showNotification can't take two parameters, it needs a third for example | 11:02 |
AlanBell | http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/ links to that documentation, however look what I found http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/ | 11:04 |
AlanBell | http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/javascript/uwapi-ref.html | 11:05 |
AlanBell | that is updated but seemingly not linked to from anywhere | 11:05 |
AlanBell | there is a bigger problem that I can't now write a webapp and having specified in the init call that I want version 1.0 of the API I don't know whether that is a 12.04 or 12.10 client with different APIs so why on earth is there a version number in the API call? | 11:06 |
AlanBell | bug 1035581 | 11:08 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1035581 in WebApps: Applications "Unity Web API Documentation code snippets don't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035581 | 11:08 |
czajkowski | AlanBell: that bug is assigned to alex | 11:14 |
czajkowski | good job it'll be fixed then | 11:15 |
AlanBell | the documentation might be fixed (well it has been to an extent, just not put in the navigation) | 11:17 |
AlanBell | the problem is that we are making it very hard to develop webapps that work on multiple versions of Ubuntu | 11:18 |
AlanBell | actually it looks like the API was changed within 12.04 as well from the bug | 11:23 |
dpm | AlanBell, ok, I've updated the page with the 12.10 link now: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps | 11:52 |
dpm | in doing that, I've broken the embedded video, though | 11:53 |
AlanBell | excellent! | 11:55 |
AlanBell | dpm: does the last one adding launcher items work for you? | 11:57 |
AlanBell | Error while dispatching call to Launcher.addAction: TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method '_addAction' | 11:57 |
dpm | webapps are unfortunately pretty broken on my system, so I'm probably not the best reference :) | 11:58 |
AlanBell | ah OK | 11:58 |
dpm | sorry | 11:58 |
AlanBell | well at least having most of the calls work is a huge improvement | 11:59 |
dpm | AlanBell, alex-abreu on #ubuntu-webapps might be the best person to ask atm. I've got access to the API docs on d.u.c, so if you find out more, just ping me and I can apply the changes straight away | 12:00 |
AlanBell | great. And, yes that video has gone :( but with the hello world example working I think more people will stick with it | 12:02 |
dpm | yeah, I don't know why wordpress is no longer embedding the video, I've been playing with it for 20 mins, and I even restored the original version, but no joy. I give up :/ | 12:08 |
jcastro | dpm: wordpress hates you today | 13:50 |
jcastro | it gets like that sometimes, mean spirited. | 13:51 |
dpm | jcastro, indeed, I think it needs some rest after the hammering in the last 2 days | 13:52 |
doctormon | jcastro: The ghost of wordpress present is here to show you the error of your blog! ~wooo~ | 13:59 |
mhall119 | dpm: wasn't it a plugin that embedded the videos? Maybe IS just needs to re-enable it | 14:38 |
dpm | mhall119, good point, but I think it's standard WP functionality, and not handled by a plugin. Oddly enough, the embedding was working before I did my (unrelated) edit to the page. I'm not really sure what's going on. | 14:40 |
mhall119 | ah, nvm then | 14:41 |
jcastro | maybe it's the cache in front of it? | 14:41 |
dpm | jcastro, yeah, I was thinking about it as well, but as I have no idea on how caches work, I'm a bit at a loss :( | 14:54 |
jono | dpm, jcastro, mhall119, balloons invite sent | 16:02 |
dpm | ok! | 16:03 |
jcastro | I will be 60 seconds late | 16:03 |
jcastro | wrapping up a call | 16:04 |
SergioMeneses | morning! | 17:09 |
SergioMeneses | balloons, let me know when you will be available | 17:10 |
balloons | SergioMeneses, kk | 17:12 |
doctormon | jono: Any movement on the design-team email I sent you before UDS? | 17:47 |
jono | doctormon, I will check back into it | 17:47 |
doctormon | OK, thanks jono | 17:47 |
jcastro | jono: lol didn't we have a call today? | 18:44 |
jono | jcastro, I figured we talked yesterday | 18:52 |
jcastro | works for me | 18:52 |
jcastro | I have one thing to bring up by I can PM | 18:52 |
jcastro | hey AlanBell | 19:16 |
jcastro | there's a bug for being able to granularly turn lenses/scopes' online thinger on and off | 19:16 |
jcastro | do you have that handy? | 19:16 |
AlanBell | hi jcastro | 19:56 |
AlanBell | bug #1087873 | 19:56 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1087873 in unity (Ubuntu) "lens privacy feature does not work on all lenses" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087873 | 19:56 |
AlanBell | not quite | 19:57 |
AlanBell | I sent some emails to the ayatana list about it and did a blog article, not sure there is a bug about more granularity, just lots about "it doesn't work" | 20:01 |
AlanBell | bkerensa: you know this is not about the default lenses right? | 20:22 |
bkerensa | AlanBell: Ahh I thought it was | 20:22 |
bkerensa | AlanBell: then its not really a bug is it since they are third party ppa mostly? | 20:23 |
AlanBell | nah, they are all coded up to check the flag | 20:23 |
AlanBell | it is a huge bug | 20:23 |
jcastro | right, but isn't there a bug for "I should be able to turn some online searches on, and some off."? | 20:23 |
AlanBell | I don't believe there is a bug for that because it is working as designed | 20:24 |
AlanBell | to the extent that it works | 20:24 |
AlanBell | bkerensa: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2012/12/privacy-is-hard-lets-go-shopping/ | 20:25 |
AlanBell | I was told to file bugs like Bug #1092279 for things that don't respect the single flag | 20:27 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1092279 in Google Documents Lens "does not respect the privacy flag" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092279 | 20:27 |
AlanBell | but there are just too many and I can't be bothered to review them all because I don't agree with the fix it in every lens approach | 20:28 |
jcastro | oh, I remember seeing a mockup of what that would like like and assumed there would be a bug | 20:37 |
AlanBell | oh that, um one sec | 20:39 |
AlanBell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/Privacy.png | 20:40 |
AlanBell | that was on an email to the design list to spark discussion about the design | 20:41 |
AlanBell | I can file a bug if you like | 20:41 |
AlanBell | https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg10133.html had no replies | 20:42 |
AlanBell | https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg10092.html had no replies | 20:43 |
AlanBell | https://plus.google.com/109175303602657131317/posts/F8a3uwB9iu2 was the discussion in question, not on a mailing list | 20:55 |
AlanBell | G+ has crap searching in communities or streams, that took 10 minutes of scrolling to find | 20:57 |
snap-l | jono: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaAkWy55V3A | 21:10 |
snap-l | per jcastro's request. ;) | 21:10 |
jcastro | hah petrucci's is so him | 21:12 |
jcastro | so stereotype | 21:12 |
jcastro | he does all the megadeth ones + kirk spot on | 21:13 |
snap-l | Save for overusing the wah pedal. ;) | 21:13 |
jcastro | yeah | 21:13 |
jono | snap-l, nice! | 21:17 |
jcastro | this guy is kind of creepy at getting the personalities right | 21:17 |
jcastro | I like how he kind of overplays it to make a point | 21:17 |
jcastro | Like the Van Halen one, lol | 21:17 |
snap-l | Van Halen really is about overplaying, though | 21:20 |
snap-l | It's somewhere between the balance of the right amount of notes for the measure, and too many notes. ;) | 21:20 |
jcastro | yeah | 21:21 |
jcastro | the mustaine one is funny too | 21:21 |
jcastro | "let's slowly just creep up the neck." | 21:21 |
jcastro | on every song. | 21:21 |
mhall119 | rrnwexec: ping | 21:40 |
rrnwexec | mhall119: ack | 21:41 |
mhall119 | rrnwexec: hey, you did an interview with me at UDS, has that audio posted somewhere? | 21:41 |
rrnwexec | mhall119: that's a superb question ;) it's in editing, should be available in a week or so | 21:42 |
mhall119 | ah, cool, please let me know when so I can figure out what I said ;) | 21:42 |
rrnwexec | mhall119: if you want a copy of the unedited i can get it to you though :) | 21:42 |
mhall119 | it's cheating to do interviews half-way through a party with free beer | 21:42 |
mhall119 | rrnwexec: I cna wiat | 21:42 |
rrnwexec | mhall119: will let you in on the pre-release then. your interview was quite awesome. | 21:43 |
mhall119 | ah, good to hear, thanks | 21:43 |
rrnwexec | mhall119: and i don't remember any free beer. hmm ;P | 21:45 |
cjohnston | I want free beer | 21:46 |
mhall119 | rrnwexec: at the closing party there was, for a time | 21:51 |
jcastro | cjohnston: heya | 21:54 |
jcastro | I see django 1.5 is in RC | 21:54 |
cjohnston | uh oh | 21:55 |
jcastro | <--- EOD. | 21:58 |
jcastro | have a good weekend everyone | 21:58 |
cjohnston | that's all you had to tell me? | 21:58 |
cjohnston | :-P | 21:58 |
jcastro | snap-l: you get our housewarming invite? | 21:58 |
jcastro | cjohnston: yeah, think of it as motivation to work on the django charm | 21:58 |
jcastro | hah | 21:58 |
cjohnston | i thought there was one | 21:58 |
mhall119 | jcastro: is there a charm for dovecot? | 22:03 |
JoseeAntonioR | mhall119: I think yes | 22:03 |
snap-l | jcastro: Yeah, I did | 22:10 |
jono | mhall119, around? | 22:26 |
jono | cjohnston, ping? | 22:41 |
jono | Quick Django question: I have three tables, A, B, and C, each is linked via a Foreign Key C(B), B(A) and I know the pk of A - how do I return all records from C when I just know the pk of A with this relationship? | 22:41 |
james_w | jono, C.objects.filter(b__a=pk) might work | 22:50 |
james_w | where "b" and "a" are the attribute names of B and A on C and B respectively | 22:50 |
james_w | yeah, seems to work fine | 22:53 |
jono | james_w, so does b__a specify two keys I can search? | 22:54 |
james_w | jono, if C.b is the attribute that refers to B | 22:54 |
james_w | then C.objects.filter(b=<id>) | 22:54 |
jono | james_w, gotcha | 22:55 |
james_w | will find you all Cs that reference the B with <id> | 22:55 |
jono | thanks james_w, will give that a try | 22:55 |
james_w | double underscore moves another link down the chain | 22:55 |
james_w | so b__a=<pk> finds all C where C.b.a.pk == pk | 22:55 |
jono | james_w, I get: Cannot resolve keyword 'b' into field | 22:59 |
james_w | jono, you need to use the attribute name for B that is used on C | 22:59 |
james_w | jono, if you share your model definitions then I can be more precise | 22:59 |
jono | james_w, sure, I will pastebin it | 23:00 |
jono | james_w, ahhh I got it working | 23:01 |
jono | like you say, I specified the attributes | 23:01 |
jono | thanks james_w! | 23:01 |
james_w | np | 23:02 |
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