| thorwil | godbyk: happy new year | 11:42 |
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| thorwil | godbyk: seems we need a new naming convention for the titlepage files | 11:42 |
| thorwil | what would have been lulu-nl.svg could be wrap-nl.svg if we wanted it to be generic | 11:44 |
| thorwil | but with measurements dependent on the service, createspace-nl.svg might avoid surprises further down the road | 11:45 |
| thorwil | godbyk: assuming the vertical bleed is the diff between a4 height and cover size, i only need the spine width now | 12:10 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Should we name them something generic like 'cover-LANG.svg'? | 20:22 |
| godbyk | Let me get the spine width for you. | 20:22 |
| godbyk | thorwil: The spine width should be 24.159456 pt (0.335548 in). (Gotta love those nice round numbers!) | 20:24 |
| thorwil | godbyk: right now with an old lulu and a new createspace cover in one and the same dir, i don't feel well about a generic name | 20:24 |
| godbyk | thorwil: We can ditch the lulu covers I think. | 20:24 |
| thorwil | btw, we could drop the "titlepage-" for all the single side files | 20:24 |
| godbyk | thorwil: True, though it might make it easier to know if the svg is a title page or cover if we leave it. | 20:25 |
| thorwil | godbyk: what's with lulu-en_US, then? | 20:25 |
| godbyk | thorwil: It doesn't matter too much to me. I just type the names once in the LaTeX script and never think about it again. You're the one who has to edit them all the time. :-) | 20:25 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I didn't remove any of the lulu covers, but we can remove them/rename them if you like. | 20:26 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Since lulu.com is having trouble printing our books, I'm going to be publishing any new ones through CreateSpace. | 20:26 |
| thorwil | godbyk: lulu-en_US of 12-04_precise-e2 is not currently in print? | 20:27 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Correct. precise-e2 edition is allegedly available through lulu.com, but if it's not I'll migrate it to CreateSpace. | 20:28 |
| thorwil | godbyk: easiest to rename and edit the lulu file, then. don't delete it | 20:28 |
| godbyk | For 12.10, I used your lulu cover at the CreateSpace site and it worked okay. They said they scaled it, but I'm not sure why.. the numbers appeared to align when I did the math. | 20:28 |
| godbyk | The printed copy of 12.10 from CreateSpace looks fine, though. | 20:28 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Okay. I'll leave that up to you. | 20:29 |
| thorwil | 12.10 – how come i don't even have thta branch checked out | 20:29 |
| thorwil | that, even | 20:29 |
| thorwil | godbyk: how about calling the files with "single-" and "double-"? | 20:30 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I'm okay with that. Whatever makes the most sense to you is fine with me. :) | 20:31 |
| thorwil | godbyk: ok, i'll add the new file as double-nl.svg later on. please take care of renaming the titlepage-*, as that should happen with updating the script | 20:33 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I'll do that. | 20:34 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Thanks for your help! | 20:34 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I'll probably have some more cover requests coming soon, too. (Just a heads-up.) | 20:34 |
| thorwil | godbyk: your welcome. i just take care of crumbs, while you deal with whole slices of the cake :) | 20:35 |
| godbyk | Mmm.. cake! :-) | 20:36 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Oh, one more thing to keep in mind with the covers: | 20:36 |
| thorwil | s/your/you're/, sheesh as if i have to type the standard mistakes | 20:36 |
| godbyk | CreateSpace adds an ISBN barcode to the bottom-right cover of the back cover. | 20:37 |
| godbyk | So when you're designing covers, don't put anything vital in that spot or it will be occluded by the barcode. | 20:37 |
| godbyk | (With the current covers, this isn't an issue.) | 20:37 |
| godbyk | thorwil: As long as you don't harp at my on my bad typing days, I'll leave you alone on yours. ;-) | 20:37 |
| thorwil | can you get the position/measurements of the barcode? | 20:38 |
| godbyk | Sure. One moment. | 20:38 |
| godbyk | thorwil: https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/CoverPDF.jsp | 20:39 |
| godbyk | It's 2" × 1.2", but it doesn't give the exact position information. | 20:39 |
| godbyk | On the printed copy that I received, the barcode sites ¼" from the bottom of the trimmed edge and ¼" from the fold of the spine. | 20:40 |
| thorwil | ty. sucks. no way to relate my layout to that | 20:43 |
| thorwil | barbarians! :) | 20:43 |
| CarstenG | Hi Kevin and Thorsten | 20:47 |
| thorwil | ho CarstenG | 20:47 |
| CarstenG | Nice to see, that you found another service for printing. :-) | 20:47 |
| CarstenG | Do they have the possibility, that the customer can decide during the order process if he wants a color or black/white version? | 20:49 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: I can upload a color edition if you like. It'd be quite a bit pricier, I think. | 20:49 |
| CarstenG | oh, ok. So the same procedure as at lulu... | 20:50 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Yeah, pretty much. | 20:50 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Whoever publishes the book decides what format (black-and-white, color, hardcover, paperback, page size, etc.). | 20:50 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: If you're interested in a color edition, I can create one for you, though. | 20:51 |
| CarstenG | I will come with this point back to you, when we have finished the German version... | 20:51 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Okay. | 20:51 |
| CarstenG | 28% left to translate... | 20:52 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Take your time.. I have plenty of other translations to publish. ;-) | 20:53 |
| CarstenG | Yeah, great. 5 are nearly ready | 20:54 |
| CarstenG | and of Malay only the screenshots are missing.. | 20:54 |
| godbyk | Next on my to do list is to see if I can figure out why French words with apostrophes in them aren't being hyphenated properly. | 20:55 |
| godbyk | (It seems like each translation has its own special issues to be worked out. At least we only have to fix the problem once [most the time].) :) | 20:55 |
| CarstenG | You mean something like »s’améliorer.« on page 6 of the French version? | 20:58 |
| CarstenG | Looks really not aesthetic... | 20:59 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Yeah, they're causing overly long lines in a number of places. | 20:59 |
| godbyk | I'm trying to pin down the cause of the problem now. | 21:00 |
| CarstenG | Then I have one more problem for you. :-) | 21:01 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: What's that? | 21:01 |
| CarstenG | The quotation marks in malay are printed as ? | 21:01 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Ah, that should be an easy fix. | 21:01 |
| CarstenG | And should be as the english ones... | 21:01 |
| CarstenG | ... as Susah wrote in his email. | 21:02 |
| godbyk | Ookay. | 21:02 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Are they working on precise-e2 or quantal (or both)? | 21:03 |
| CarstenG | on precise-e2 | 21:04 |
| godbyk | Okay. | 21:04 |
| thorwil | double-nl.svg pushed | 21:08 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Thanks! | 21:09 |
| godbyk | I'll upload it and see if it complains about anything. | 21:09 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Oops! I forgot to send you Dutch text for the back cover. | 21:11 |
| godbyk | Lemme find that for you. | 21:11 |
| CarstenG | I was also wondering about that. :-) | 21:12 |
| CarstenG | Only english there. :-) | 21:12 |
| thorwil | godbyk: that happens when i switch from debugging clojure, try to figure out why ardour 2 doesn'tbuild and try to finish a titlepage svg ;) | 21:12 |
| thorwil | otherwise i surely would have remembered to actually check the text | 21:13 |
| godbyk | thorwil: Heh.. no problem! :-) | 21:13 |
| CarstenG | This is one idea for the raring manual: Can we include all these texts to the pot file so that they are available on LP? | 21:14 |
| godbyk | It looks like it should be the same text as for the lucid-e1 cover. | 21:14 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Possibly. We should look into that. | 21:14 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Hannie and I were talking the other day and we'd like to rewrite this cover text anyway. | 21:15 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I've emailed you the old lucid-e1 Dutch covers. The text on the back cover should be the same for precise-e2. | 21:16 |
| thorwil | godbyk: i copied the text from that branch | 21:26 |
| * thorwil has them all collected | 21:26 | |
| godbyk | thorwil: So organized! (More so than I!) | 21:26 |
| thorwil | godbyk: better have Hannie take a look at it | 21:26 |
| godbyk | thorwil: I'll do that. | 21:26 |
| thorwil | have to run, cya | 21:27 |
| CarstenG | Ok, see you tomorrow. | 23:18 |
| CarstenG | bye | 23:19 |
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