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tgm4883well we should probably get started18:03
tgm4883!help18:03
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:03
tgm4883hmm18:03
tgm4883!meeting18:03
ubottuTeam meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts.18:03
tgm4883thanks ubottu, you are so helpful18:04
TheLordOfTimetgm4883, Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology if you're looking for it...18:04
TheLordOfTime:P18:04
tgm4883TheLordOfTime, exactly what I'm looking for, thanks18:04
TheLordOfTimetgm4883, also, /topic18:04
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* TheLordOfTime returns to poking server packages18:04
tgm4883#startmeeting Ubuntu TV weekly meeting18:05
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tgm4883The agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Meetings18:05
tgm4883Note that there is nothing on the agenda18:05
CrestedNewtis BobWeaver in? I don't see him18:06
tgm4883we pinged him, but I didn't see him around18:06
tgm4883Since there is nothing on the agenda, I'll open the floor to anyone that has anything to say and/or questions or comments18:06
tgm4883#topic Open Floor18:07
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mhall119so, given the holidays since our last meeting, there probably isn't anything new to discuss18:07
tgm4883mhall119, my guess as well18:07
CrestedNewtDo we know the current status of development?18:07
CrestedNewtie - where are we?18:07
mhall119except, well, omg! Phone!18:08
tgm4883CrestedNewt, I'm not aware of the current status of the non-mythtv parts18:08
CrestedNewtUbuntu Phone is to be discussed later :D18:08
mhall119CrestedNewt: I know bobweaver has been experimenting with different things on the old unity2d code18:08
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mhall119I don't know if anything new has been done on the unity 3d port18:08
CrestedNewtOK, just so that I get this right .....18:09
mhall119tgm4883: how is the MythTV scope work going?18:09
CrestedNewtBobweaver is working on the old 2D platform18:09
mhall119CrestedNewt: he's been working on both18:09
CrestedNewtand he is hoping to have a stable platform with which to move forwards?18:09
mhall119he's been porting to Unity 3d, but still using the 2d code for prototyping18:09
tgm4883The main scope is great. Playback of content works nicely and looks good18:10
tgm4883the guide data parts though....18:10
mhall119CrestedNewt: that's the goal, yes18:10
CrestedNewtmhall119 - ok that's good news18:10
mhall119tgm4883: the main scopes searches already recorded stuff?18:10
tgm4883Currently I'm seeing if upstream will add some stuff to the API so I don't have to do a query on each show just to get description18:11
tgm4883mhall119, yes, that part works great18:11
mhall119tgm4883: you can always just use the title in the search results, and only query for the description if they open it in a preview18:11
tgm4883I need to move the servicesapi.py file to it's own package though so I can separate the guide and playback scopes18:12
tgm4883mhall119, yea that is what I have it doing now, but then you can only search title/subtitle18:12
mhall119tgm4883: cool18:12
tgm4883But I'm not adding description back in unless I can get it to a reasonable run time18:13
mhall119tgm4883: maybe you can put a bit in the next blog post about your progress and how people can help you with it18:13
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mhall119any screenshot of the TV UI, even the old 2d one, showing results from MythTV would cause some excitement too18:13
tgm4883yea I need to work with bobweaver to get a TV UI setup for that18:14
tgm4883or have him do a couple screenshots18:14
mhall119Any ideas on what we can do with the new phone & SDK to capitalize on some of that buzz for the TV?18:15
* tgm4883 shrugs18:16
tgm4883I haven't looked at phone much18:16
mhall119it's pretty cool, and the SDK is something that people should use to write TV apps too18:16
mhall119I'll talk to bobweaver about maybe getting some screenshots of the example app running on the TV UI, see if it's worth talking about18:17
tgm4883it's QML, so bobweaver should be happy18:18
CrestedNewtOK, in the UK atm there is a push on http://www.youview.com/features/ and http://go.sky.com/vod/page/tvListing.do18:18
mhall119yeah, he's already been in #ubuntu-phone18:18
CrestedNewtthe sky solution allows video on the move .... but it requires silverlight18:19
mhall119tgm4883: your guide scope, is that using MythTV as it's backend?18:19
tgm4883mhall119, yes18:20
mhall119and can MythTV use the sources CrestedNewt just mentioned?18:20
tgm4883mhall119, err, it's not like that18:21
tgm4883mhall119, so you can think of mythtv similar to how we're thinking about ubuntu tv (or vice versa). Mythtv has a backend and a frontend (in the case of Ubuntu TV, we're basically just making a UTV a frontend)18:21
tgm4883any online sources and such that mythtv could use, would be mythtv frontend plugins18:22
tgm4883which don't make sense here, we'd just make them unity scopes18:22
tgm4883unless i'm not understanding what these things are18:22
mhall119oh, ok, so tv guides aren't being stored in the backend?18:23
CrestedNewtboth of the sites I posted are 'historical' VOD services.... I was just thinking about the tie in with ubuntu_phone18:23
tgm4883yes, the tv guide is stored in the backend, but this looks to be more than just a tv guide18:23
mhall119oh, ok18:24
CrestedNewtno probs - I just thought that I would clear that up :D18:24
mhall119I was mostly interested in just the tv guide data, if MythTV can support multiple sources, then we only need a single source to get it out of MythTV18:24
mhall119makes our job easier that way18:24
tgm4883mhall119, you should get guide data from the same place that you are scheduling recordings18:25
tgm4883so in this case, mythtv18:25
tgm4883mythtv supports schedules direct and XMLTV I think18:26
mhall119ok18:26
tgm4883well, and EPG18:26
tgm4883but that sucks in the US18:26
tgm4883so with mythtv, you can have multiple sources, and you might have a different set of guide data for each source (which is why I say tie the two together)18:27
tgm4883from the UTV POV, the only source if mythtv (and mythtv figures out all the other important stuff)18:28
mhall119sounds good to me18:29
tgm4883yea the more I look at youview, the more it sounds like it should be a scope18:29
CrestedNewtOK, blue sky stuff here for future discussion but I think that it needs to be noted somewhere..... Sky offer this planner http://tv.sky.com/tv-guide#/day/0 and you can then decide to record from this service as well as getting more programme information. The record function is only available if you are a Sky subscriber. DO NOTHING WITH THIS YET but views for later on would be good.18:30
mhall119CrestedNewt: where does that record it to? your local hardware, or something on their network?18:31
CrestedNewtsends a signal through satellite to your box which has a viewing card. These are linked to your username18:31
mhall119ah, ok18:32
tgm4883looks like there is a sky DVR box too18:32
tgm4883with storage18:32
CrestedNewtyes - the top of range box has 1080i output and a 1 TB HDD18:33
mhall119alright, any other topics to discuss?18:35
tgm4883I've got none18:35
CrestedNewtI have none - other than I need to get something to document :D18:35
mhall119alright, I'll try and get some information from Canonical's side about how the new Phone stuff might be impacting the TV, and vice-versa, to see how it all should fit together18:36
mhall119and we'll get with bobweaver when he's online for some screenshots and stuff18:36
tgm4883sounds good18:36
CrestedNewtmhall119 - good man!!18:36
mhall119alright, thanks guys!18:36
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