[05:33] Good morning everyone [06:31] Morning everyone [07:08] afternoon all [07:23] hi mazal wen julle [07:23] ? [07:28] inetpro_, you got a tail [07:28] good morning [07:31] More oom Kilos [07:32] Yep it's running , just the ssh that refuses to work. So I will go and work on the server itself when needed [07:32] Didn't want to hold back to job for that stupid problem [07:32] ah [07:33] And now no more pathetic 800kb/s copy speed to the server like it was [07:33] Now it's normal at 10mb/s [07:33] lekker [07:34] I told everyone it's software and none believed me [07:34] Soon as I changed the software now the speed is right [07:34] they ping each other ok? [07:34] Ya everything is sharp now. Well except the stupid putty thing [07:35] so ssh from both sides doesnt work? [07:35] Only from my pc [07:35] And only to the new server [07:35] My pc works to the other two servers [07:35] but from the new server to your pc? [07:35] And ubuntu boxes works to the new server [07:36] Is just from my pc [07:36] Can't ssh to my pc , Windows doesn't have ssh server [07:36] if you install putty there [07:36] on the windows pc [07:38] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html [07:39] im sure its just a tiny thing needs configuring [07:39] but to find it is the thing [07:45] Putty is already installed on the win pc [07:45] That is the ssh client [07:58] hmmm [07:59] frustrating [08:13] ja barrydk [08:13] Hello kilos [08:19] How are you this morning Kilos [08:19] im ok ty. back still eina [08:20] stupid thing [08:20] hi roryy [08:20] what happened/ [08:21] hey Kilos [08:21] hurt it 2 weeks back tipping over the bi ram to innoculate him [08:21] big [08:22] strong swine. 80 to 90 kgs [08:22] I got a high speed lead injection system for you to borrow [08:22] Hmm sounds like a lot of meat [08:23] yeah [08:23] chops on the hoof [08:23] nou i feel for a braai stopit [08:24] lol [08:24] change the supject [08:24] Where is Grumps this morning? [08:25] no man he is a super guy [08:25] you misread him [08:26] Just joking no hard feelings from my side [08:27] all the best for 2013 drubin drussell cocooncrash [08:27] hehe [08:28] ive seen here how patient he is . we had one really piggy windows guy that tried ubuntu and just complained and threatened to go back to windows all the time [08:28] he was handle very calmly and in a gentlemanly way [08:28] diplomatic [08:28] Maaz, diplomat [08:28] A diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [08:29] goeie more [08:29] dankie Kilos [08:30] More inetpro [08:30] vir inetpro ? [08:32] Kilos: so iets ja [08:34] o die stert [08:35] sjoe [08:37] if i want to live boot ubuntu 12.10 on a Windows 8 machine (i.e., SecureBoot), will only the 64-bit version work? [08:38] nope [08:38] 32 should work too [08:39] ok - my googling so far suggests the opposite. i don't suppose you've tried it? [08:40] nope dont have 8 but it worked on 7 [08:40] i removed 7 and installed 12.04 kde [08:40] I thought SecureBoot was more-or-less a Windows 8 only thing [08:40] 12.04 doesn't (yet) support SecureBoot, AFAIK [08:41] ? [08:41] i think the fly got 8 then dumped it again he will know methinks [08:41] well, see here for example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [08:42] also been articles on lwn.net about how different distros will handle secureboot [08:42] i dunno if theres anything in bios that makes it want to see 64b [08:42] i go see [08:43] hi Wraz [08:43] Aloha [08:43] oh thats the new bios thing [08:44] is it a new pc [08:44] yeah [08:44] i haven't bought it yet :-) [08:44] want to try booting ubuntu before buying [08:44] ah [08:44] and it'll take me another 2.5 hours to download the 64-bit image [08:44] ask in the mailing list if anyone has tried [08:44] ag, might as well [08:47] thanks Kilos [08:47] if time is the only snag then do it and you got both [08:47] np sorry i couldnt be more specific [08:47] yeah, i need the 64-bit anyway - machine has 6GB mem [08:47] nice [08:50] roryy: please come back and tell us here if you found a solution [08:51] inetpro: i'm downloading the 64-bit image, will go to the shop and boot with that. Will let you guys know if it works or not [08:51] ty roryy [08:52] roryy: thanks [08:55] roryy: let's hope the guys at the shop will allow you to boot with that [08:55] yeah [08:56] *shrug* I won't buy the laptop otherwise [08:56] hehe [08:56] srsly - i can't spend that much without knowing if it will work for me [08:57] of course [08:57] no choice of getting one without windows installed [08:57] ? [08:57] not this model, i don't think [08:58] lol have you googled that? [08:58] what lappy is it [08:58] well it seems you may need to tweak a setting or more in the bios before it will work [08:58] http://www.hpshop.co.za/p-8550-hp-envy-m6-1110ei-notebook-c2b86ea.aspx [08:59] my perception was 12.10 *should* work with these machines out-the-box [08:59] barring bugs, of which i gather there are a few [09:00] maybe 8 has added something [09:00] 7 was very security conscious so 8 must be worse [09:02] or even ask the shop for one without windows preinstalled [09:03] looks like a cool machine [09:03] Kilos: it's about boot-up: Windows 8 ready machines will only boot images that have been digitally signed by Microsoft. Ubuntu, Fedora and I think SuSE all have different solutions for this. E.g. http://blog.canonical.com/2012/06/22/an-update-on-ubuntu-and-secure-boot/ [09:04] aw the fly gone [09:04] wb superfly_ [09:04] and mrs_fly [09:04] hehe inetpro the bot greeted him [09:05] Kilos: very interesting [09:05] yeah [09:05] but Kilos, that's because he has a tail [09:05] oh my [09:05] your bot has never seen him with a tail [09:06] i hoped she was eveolving into a cleverer bot [09:06] oh well she greeted anyway [09:06] evolving [09:06] Kilos: she will remember now [09:06] hope so [09:06] until tonight at least [09:07] or when you kill it again [09:07] oh ya [09:07] a bot really needs to stay online for it to be useful [09:09] i spose [09:09] but then i dont see whats happening [09:09] scared to come back and pc is hung again [09:09] oh i must show you [09:12] Kilos: show me? [09:12] ya weird things here since that crash [09:13] sec i gotta find a place to upload a pic [09:19] this is what i see while booting up to where password required [09:19] http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img194/2988/image0046h.jpg [09:20] dunno if thats because of pci graphics card [09:22] inetpro, ^^ [09:22] i wish there was an image site as easy as slexy.org [09:35] Kilos: so what do you do to get past that? [09:36] i wait till i see the purple screen with password block [09:36] hehe [09:36] hmm... [09:36] it still boots fine just doesnt show the purple screen [09:37] till password block comes up that is [09:37] just disable the splash screen [09:37] and stop worrying about it [09:37] lol [09:38] is that white striped screen the splash screen [09:38] supposedly [09:38] its close to what i see on server boot [09:39] google is your friend [09:39] but server goes to cli only [09:39] nee man its not a prob [09:39] wanna get the latest 12.04 iso when data fullup again [09:40] i got 1g for the month still and 350 night surfer so maybe will get 12.04.4 iso that way [09:41] the have 500 or so for the month [09:42] gah, stupid Freenode again, it seems. === superfly_ is now known as superfly [09:43] hi superfly [09:44] did you see my bot greeted you with the tail [09:50] yes [10:13] hello [10:15] synaptic is a useful tool. its shows grub-common grub-pc-bin grub2 and grub2-common as needing upgrades [10:15] hi Squirm [10:15] maybe thats the splash prob [10:16] the "mark all upgrades" function is cool too. shows 22.9m to be downloaded [10:16] if i disappear something didnt work [10:17] lotsa compiz stuff [10:18] and nautilus [10:21] Right , server nr 2 for redo here I come [10:21] hope you got better luck with the ssh thing [10:22] you can still ssh it now [10:22] if you cant after the redo you doing something wrong [10:26] This one is a very quick and easy single public share server [10:27] Everything SHOULD go well [10:27] But with computers you never know [10:27] mazal: just a quick question: why are you redoing the servers? [10:27] It's that old 10.10 remember ? [10:28] and you don't want to do staggered upgrades? [10:28] The main one I redid cause of the dreadfull samba problem in it that only worked at 800kb/s over the network [10:28] This one is because of that stupid "keep showing old file sizes and dates on files" problem [10:28] So Hope the newer software will help [10:29] Doing both with 12.04.01 [10:31] Oh and both are now 64bit , previously 32bit. That's the other change [10:34] ah, right. yes, you can't change architecture without a complete reinstall [10:46] 2nd server done [10:46] Wish they all were that easy [10:46] well done [10:47] Ja this is just the little avupdate distributer [10:47] 1 share that is public and that's it [10:49] magespawn: ever heard of Umziki Pan? [10:49] Kilo's guess what , that one's ssh also not working [10:49] uh oh [10:50] Is defnitely something on the new ssh software blocking my pc. Now I'm convinced of it [10:51] does it matter if your pc is 32bit and server 64bit [10:51] nope [10:52] well sort the ssh thing before you do the next server [10:53] No I am done for now , is nou moeg vir servers [10:54] hehe [10:54] wat se google van dit [10:54] I anyway don't even know where to look. Same software works on server 3 [10:54] Only difference , that one is 32bit [10:54] Google gives the usual , thousands of post with no real solution [10:55] ai [10:55] Google does not know everything [10:56] install 64bit ubuntu on one pc and try ssh from there [10:56] ssh works from ubuntu boxes [10:56] all you have changed is 32 to 64bit [10:56] Already saw that [10:57] Nope , much newer software as well [10:57] kop krap dan [10:57] baie [10:57] One was 10.10 and the other 11.10 [10:57] ya but 32bit [10:57] yeah [10:58] are you sure a 32bit pc can ssh a 64bit server? [10:59] Yep [10:59] That's not relevant [10:59] oh [11:01] now you gotta do everything manually from the servers till ssh sorted hey? [11:02] Gaan eers sweets soek [11:02] l8tr [11:02] hehe [11:49] suuup [11:49] Friday's up [11:50] lo Vince-0 [11:52] wbb [11:57] hey bakuman Banlam [11:57] hi hi [12:02] mazal was having issues with ssh serve access? I often find ssh-server not installed by default [12:03] It's there , I added it myself and can ssh from Linux box to it [12:03] And , hi Vince-0 :) [12:03] Don't think I saw you yet today [12:10] Howdy all [12:12] yo magespawn [12:12] Hi magespawn [12:15] magespawn: heard of umzini pan? [12:17] Hey superfly not sure,muzi pan yes, there by mkuzi? [12:17] Hey mazal [12:17] magespawn: yes, I think so [12:17] I think they're on the other side of the game reserve to Hluhluwe [12:19] Will look it to see if we are talking about the same place [12:20] magespawn: http://www.umzikipan.co.za/ [12:21] http://goo.gl/maps/ABMsb [12:22] a little bit off the beaten track from Hluhluwe, but it doesn't look like too far [12:23] Ah, it looks like there's a fairly direct route [12:23] 15 minutes drive [12:25] Do not know much about it, but it is only abou 15-20, and the dirt section of the road is in relatively good condition [12:30] when coming to hluhluwe there is no shortage of accommodation options [12:31] superfly you would have to go though hluhluwe to get there [12:32] magespawn: that's fine [12:32] magespawn: so you'd better be around on Monday the 3rd of June - we're coming to visit! [12:33] may just have to take an extended leave then [12:34] on that map my shop is above the last e in the left hand hluhluwe [12:35] and i stay just about where the pink edge of town is marked [12:37] * magespawn hastily checks his calender and tries to contrive some reason to skip town [12:39] Bye guys , have a good evening [12:40] good afternoon [12:40] hehe @ magespawn [12:40] Maaz: coffee on [12:40] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:40] hi charl_ [12:40] hi charl_ [12:40] hi Kilos [12:40] hi magespawn [12:40] superfly the whole family coming? [12:41] well duh [12:41] who goes on leave without his family [12:42] some people do, and with little babies, but each to his own [12:42] that's pretty bad [12:43] i also paranoid people who would not bring a little kid to this part of the world [12:43] ^know [12:43] magespawn: yup, all of us [12:43] making a road trip [12:44] Coffee's ready for charl_! [12:45] Maaz: danke schon [12:45] charl_: What? [12:45] Maaz: dankeschon [12:45] charl_: Sorry... [12:45] Maaz: danke [12:45] Bitteschön [12:45] Maaz: you need an upgrade :) [12:45] charl_: What? [12:45] cool superfly, will have real coffee/tea ready [12:46] magespawn: w00t! :-) [12:46] we just arrived in Klerksdorp, so bit zonked from the drive, going for snooze, see y'all later [13:00] Hi all, inbetween afks at the office here... [13:09] yaar! work ends [13:52] interesting article: http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/ [14:07] ya [14:07] go freenode [14:23] so a snooze with two kids who have not seen you for a month not such a good idea [14:24] lol [14:28] hiya nlsthzn_ [14:30] magespawn: fetching the fish from their grandparents? [14:31] yup [14:32] ah, was wondering why you we're going to Klerksdorp, then you mentioned the fish and I remembered... [14:32] *were [14:36] did it in 8 and 1/2 hours, so made good time [15:08] hi :D [15:10] charl_: nice link [15:11] inetpro: my raspberry pi is running fine :) [15:19] * Squirm pops in [15:20] Squirm: :D [15:33] just put a new m/b + cpu + ram in [15:33] and kept my HDD and ubuntu installation [15:33] how do i update my drivers? 'o' [15:33] graet [15:33] what socket [15:33] great too [15:33] 1155 [15:33] just a cheap i3 [15:34] lekker so you can go all the way [15:34] with 8 GB of 1600 DDR3 hahaha [15:34] well, Intel is bringing out the 1150 socket in about 6 months [15:34] so this PC will go to my dad when I build a nice one :) [15:34] larger cpus are expensive [15:34] that they are [15:34] but worth it if you have the money [15:35] if you have ya [15:35] i will try save for a 1155 mb in this year [15:35] i bought a cheap one - R 500 [15:35] MSI H61 board [15:35] at matrix [15:35] ? [15:36] the Asus Z77 looks a lot nicer, but for R 2 000 it's a bit much for me now [15:36] especially since i won't be keeping this one [15:36] no, at PC Zone [15:36] it's a local Durban store only [15:36] well, Pinetown / Ballito / Musgrave [15:36] n ice to see you thinking about your dad [15:36] good boy [15:36] yeah, and in the meantime he will use the one i was using, but it's a bit slow [15:36] there is sahara computers in durbs [15:37] yes [15:37] in Springfield Park iirc [15:37] but i'm not a fan of Sahara [15:37] they used to be quite cheap [15:37] being wholesalers too [15:37] cheap isn't always good :p [15:37] no man they sell the same stuff [15:38] sometimes :p [15:38] but often at wholesale prices [15:38] o hope you putting ubuntu on it [15:39] of course! [15:39] well done [15:40] Cantide: 64 bit? [15:41] umm [15:41] should i? [15:41] doesnt 64bit use more resources [15:42] 64 bit handles the more ram better if i am right [15:42] oh.. [15:42] i have 8 GB [15:42] and OS is picking it up [15:42] PAE kernel <3 [15:43] maybe that was changed or i am getting my os's confused [15:44] trying to get help in #ubuntu [15:44] eeek [15:44] concentrate [15:47] i might need to reboot.. [15:53] magespawn: you have to have a PAE kernel for > 4Gb [15:54] and Cantide, Sahara has moved location [15:54] they're now off Queen Nandi [15:54] aah [15:54] Omega is also there [15:54] .-. [15:54] too far for my liking haha [15:54] a friend of mine used to run PC Zone in Cato Ridge [15:55] well, friends brother [15:55] Cantide: where do you live? [15:55] typical linux being so far ahead [15:56] Squirm, Queensburgh [15:56] you? [15:56] Mooi River [15:56] PC Zone in Cato Ridge is not the same as the ones in Pinetown / Ballito / Musgrave [15:56] PAE, iirc, stands for Physical Address Extension - Little piece of knowledge [15:56] must be another store altogether that happens to have the same name [15:56] there's also a PC Zone in pmb [15:57] which are linked afaik [15:57] so maybe PC Zone is kind of, franchising? [15:57] and in Ballito [15:57] a guess, I really don't know [15:58] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844354 found a solution! hah! [15:58] Squirm, they are not franchising [15:58] i worked for them when they had just one store in Pinetown [15:58] and i know the owners [15:58] zones.co.za is their website [15:59]