[00:00] <blami> bekks: in case of 50 I see some improvement
[00:00] <demondin> okay, would it be worth it you think? im kinda just doing it to test it out..
[00:00] <bekks> blami: Me dont. I'll just use copy and paste for the relevant contents of those three files.
[00:00] <luigi> Hi guys
[00:00] <luigi> Anyone have any problems?
[00:00] <luigi> I'm very bored and willing to help out
[00:01] <F3Speech> demondin: you could move the partisions about and install on a new partision while saving your old but tbh if your new easier to back them up insead of choosing wrong option and losing them
[00:01] <demondin> back them up to my external?
[00:01] <F3Speech> demondin: if you just want to test use a live version on usb or cd
[00:02] <F3Speech> then you pc isnt changed but you get to have a look around reboot will take u back to windows
[00:03] <demondin> well it's really not like im going to be using my old laptop a lot
[00:03] <demondin> and im just kind of crious
[00:05] <blami> demondin: backup three times, think twice and install after that ;)
[00:06] <demondin> im so new to backing up and all of this stuff, i feel dumb
[00:07] <F3Speech> got to start somewhere :) even if it just copying them to a usb stick
[00:08] <demondin> ive got a 1tb external harddrive...should i back everything up? or just things i care about
[00:09] <dbrom> id back it up
[00:09] <frooh> hey guys, I'm fiddling with two factor auth in xscreensaver and xscreensaver is complaining that it can't find my gnome-keyring
[00:10] <frooh> does anyone have any clue what that has to do with anything?
[00:10] <frooh> (to be clear, I cannot log in at all)
[00:11] <frooh> actually, two factor is a red herring, it only seems to have anything to do with the yubikey stuff I'm messing with
[00:15] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: gnome-keyring holds all passwords stored in Ubuntu, so yubikey will need to be able to find this in order for it to work properly
[00:15] <fellipe> hi, does ubuntu remove files in /tmp while system  is running?
[00:20] <bigbadben> I installed Kubuntu and it has horrible dual monitor support is there anyway I can install ubuntu again, if I just install the ubuntu desktop will I get the ubuntu software center, along with all the other programs ubuntu has?
[00:21] <Squarepy> bigbadben, ubuntu desktop? you mean unity?
[00:21] <Squarepy> or the full installer
[00:21] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: ok, so it wants me to have a pkcs11 file in my keyring cache; other non-X11 things (sudo, login) work with the yubikey
[00:21] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: thoughts?
[00:22] <bigbadben> squarepy, 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[00:22] <ozzloy> my right alt doesn't work in ubuntu 12.04, how do i troubleshoot this?
[00:24] <angel56> ozzloy: used to be able to define keys in .Xmodmap, but I don't know if ubuntu even recognizes that file anymore
[00:25] <kslater> does anyone know if 12.04 supports some sort of automatic display sensing / switching?
[00:26] <ikonia> kslater: xorg is dynamic in any ubuntu version now
[00:26] <unknown_> where can i upload a screen shot?
[00:27] <ikonia> any image hosting website
[00:27] <kslater> ikonia: I guess that means I need to read what that means specifically.
[00:27] <ikonia> kslater: it means it will attempt to detect your video hardware dynamically
[00:28] <kslater> I had to use the nvidia X server settings application to light up my other display
[00:28] <unknown_> thanks ikonia
[00:28] <dr_willis> kslater:  in 12.10 it enables my 2nd monitor when its plugged in. nvidia/twinview
[00:28] <kslater> what I would *like* to have happen is when my laptop lid is closed, but it's in the docking station, to drive the two external monitors
[00:29] <kslater> and when I take it out to drive the laptop LCD
[00:29] <kslater> that would be really great to get working.
[00:29] <ikonia> how are you connecting 2 external monitors from a laptop
[00:29] <ikonia> kslater: that should be possible
[00:29] <kslater> I have a docking station that supports it
[00:29] <ikonia> so it will depend on how the docking station works in terms of linux support
[00:32] <unknown_> http://postimage.org/image/rofe8tu59/6c3ccb45/   http://postimage.org/image/90xorf6bb/66e20942/  http://postimage.org/image/wnfci8w6z/b9ba420b/  http://postimage.org/image/r6f8j7v7b/7989b4a1/  http://postimage.org/image/3su6aqsaz/4026735b/  http://postimage.org/image/j9uvy0hr9/e08add4d/
[00:32] <unknown_> can someone please look at my screen shots
[00:33] <bekks> unknown_: Why? what are we supposed to find there?
[00:33] <ikonia> why ?#
[00:33] <unknown_> ubuntu keeps crashing
[00:33] <ikonia> just explain the problem
[00:33] <unknown_> i dunno i was hoping i can fix the prom.
[00:33] <dr_willis> details would help us.
[00:34] <unknown_> it is all in the screen shots
[00:34] <unknown_> the details
[00:34] <bekks> unknown_: Just explain it. All the details.
[00:34] <dr_willis> im on my phone. so looking at 100 screen shots is rather hard
[00:34] <bekks> !details | unknown_
[00:35] <unknown_> well soon as i boot up i get crash error saying sorry ubuntu has experianced an internal error
[00:35] <unknown_> if you see this again try rebooting the computer
[00:35] <kslater> it's weird how Unity makes the mouse stick at the border of the combined (TwinView) display. Maybe I should only have the side menu on the left most lcd panel.
[00:36] <unknown_> Unity is causing me alot of proms. too it seems
[00:36] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: sorry had lunch, do it give you an error message?
[00:36]  * unknown_ is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[00:36] <unknown_> os[Linux 3.2.0-35-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.20GHz] mem[Physical: 3.8GB, 80.7% free] disk[Total: 1.1TB, 94.3% free] video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH]
[00:37] <frooh> basically it said it couldn't find (connect to) ~/.cache/keyring-XXXX/pkcs11
[00:37] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : as much support as you provide here ... doing it on a phone is REALLY impressive ... at least to me ... mind if i ask what phone & service
[00:37] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: I looked online and think it might be solvable with a modification to the /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop file
[00:38] <spjt> Maybe I'm out of my league here but if I wanted to contribute what should I do.
[00:38] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: ok good luck!
[00:38] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: basically I'm experiencing this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783568
[00:38] <unknown_> every crash i get i have sent the crash report to help ubuntu fix it
[00:39] <unknown_> can someone help me maybe with finding some log that tells what happened or why ubuntu crashed ?
[00:39]  * frooh crosses fingers
[00:39] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick: just atnt on an android phone
[00:39] <Guest93115> i would like to ask about "Data Collection" and privacy policy .. if i disabled "include on line search image " option  is  Canonical still able to see my "personal information " as stated in policy ?
[00:42] <frooh> :(
[00:42] <frooh> no luck
[00:42] <maslen> How can I examine my SSH keys?
[00:43] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: yeah i had similar symptoms these guys had, im using another Window Manager, which doesnt use gnome, so the daemon wasnt being started when logging in, i had to attach it to a autostart.sh file, to make sure it spawned correctly, which fixed everything for me
[00:43] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: ok, so you're saying when the wm starts you run "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11" ? (I'm using awesomewm)
[00:44] <kylescottmcgill> im using awesome as well
[00:44] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis maybe we should all switch to android phones ... cause i never hear you complaining about problems ;)
[00:44] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: nice! are you starting from lightdm (or gdm) ?
[00:44] <kylescottmcgill> gdm, lightdm kept giving me a Low Res GFX error thing
[00:44] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: I haven't gone to the effort of setting up a script to run other programs, if you can tell me how to do that I'd apprecite it
[00:44] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: yeah, same here
[00:45] <kylescottmcgill> i will paste my config
[00:45] <frooh> woot
[00:45] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: thanks :D
[00:45] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: actually give me about 5 mins, i will setup a proper gist with what you need and where etc
[00:46] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: awesome, thanks so much
[00:47] <unknown_> this is the error i got (unity-applications-deamon crashed with signal 7)
[00:47] <unknown_> can anyone tell me what that means??
[00:48] <unknown_> i am running ubuntu 12.04.1 x64
[00:49] <unknown_> i get the error soon as i boot up
[00:51] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: have you got GTK running properly as well?
[00:51] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: I... think so?
[00:51] <frooh> it's themed anyway
[00:51] <kylescottmcgill> so when you open nautalis or something, its pretty?
[00:51] <kylescottmcgill> ok cool
[00:52] <unknown_> Can anyone tell what this means? (unity-applications-deamon crashed with signal 7) i am running ubuntu 12.04.1 x64
[00:52] <dr_willis> unknown_:  this is a clean install?
[00:52] <frooh> https://github.com/frioux/dotfiles/blob/master/gtkrc-2.0
[00:52] <frooh> that's all I did
[00:52] <unknown_> dr_willis yes
[00:52] <kylescottmcgill> ok then its actually only two files then you need
[00:53] <kylescottmcgill> https://gist.github.com/4448970
[00:53] <unknown_> dr_willis this happens every time i boot up
[00:53] <dr_willis> unknown_:  with all these weird errors id have to wonder if somthing was not messed up during ther install, or a bad cd/burn/download, or some hw related issues.
[00:53] <kylescottmcgill> also, inside that .xinitrc file you can have other applets
[00:54] <kylescottmcgill> eg: bluetooth-applet gnome-sound-applet
[00:54] <unknown_> dr_willis I check the cd and it passed with no errors but yes i think it may be that as well is there any log files we can look at that may give more info?
[00:55] <dr_willis> unknown_:  /var/log has all logs
[00:55] <dr_willis> unknown_:  id try a 12.10 install.
[00:55] <unknown_> what log would be most helpful right now?
[00:56] <Bino1710> does anyone know how to change the back round image for the log in screen
[00:56] <unknown_> oh this may be helpful i used the altenate install cd because i wanted to encrypt my install with lvm
[00:57] <dr_willis> Bino1710:  for lightdm? it auto changes to the one the user has selected. or you can edddit the image in /usr/share/backgrounds (i recall) or edit the lightdm configs
[00:57] <dr_willis> unknown_:  i never use lvm.  never neeeded it on a home system
[00:57] <Bino1710> ok thanks for the info
[00:58] <kylescottmcgill> lvm?
[00:58] <unknown_> if i upgrade to 12.10 will my lvm stay in place?
[00:58] <dr_willis> Bino1710:  theres some tweak tools out fore it also
[00:58] <ece> bought an hp g62 notebook used today because had ubuntu and talked em into $150. need to do an OS upgrade and the auto upgrade failed since its an older build
[00:58] <kylescottmcgill> oh that lvm, sorry i thought that was in reference to lightdm
[00:58] <dr_willis> unknown_:  if its a clean install why does it matter?  why do you really need a lvm?
[00:59] <dr_willis> ece:  with a used computer. i would suggest a clean reinstall anyway for 'security' reasons
[00:59] <unknown_> i always encrypt my linux as i have a laptop and i always worry about theft
[00:59] <ece> yes
[01:00] <Gavin_v> hello everybody, i upgrade my ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10, but now all of the close button and minixiae botton missing
[01:00] <seednode> Eh, too bad I don't have data important enough to back up
[01:00] <seednode> Or protect
[01:00] <dr_willis> Gavin_v:  make a new user see if they have the same issue as a test case.
[01:01] <dr_willis> if a new user works fine. then it points to a user setting issue
[01:02] <Gavin_v> dr_jesus, i've tried, the new user works fine
[01:02] <dr_willis> then it points to a user setting issue. id reset the problem users settings ;)
[01:03] <unknown_> i will try 12.10
[01:03] <dr_willis> they really need a default tool to do that...
[01:03] <Gavin_v> i just tried by the guest user, it works fine
[01:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu-tweak used to have the feature
[01:03] <unknown_> thanks guys for the help
[01:04] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, there's always brainstorm to propose new things/.
[01:04] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[01:04] <unknown_> i will let you know what happens
[01:04] <dr_willis> TheLordOfTime:  yea. and ive rarely ever seen any get implemented
[01:04] <Gavin_v> dr_jesus, which default tool shall i use?
[01:04] <karol__> Hi all
[01:05] <dr_willis> Gavin_v:  i just move my config files/dirs to a backup dir then log out/back in
[01:05] <GeorgeJ> I've create a 100G LVM logical volume and formatted it as ext4. df -h reports the partition as having 99G, of which 188M is used and 94G available, where's the rest?
[01:05] <Gavin_v> dr_jesus, thanks
[01:06] <dr_willis> 5% of ext2/3/4 is reserved for root/file recovery. tuneable via the tune2fs command GeorgeJ
[01:06] <GeorgeJ> There's nothing on the partition, so I guess 188M is how much ext4 needs for its structures, but what about the extra 5GB that are missing
[01:06] <GeorgeJ> dr_willis: Aha! Fascinating! Thank you!
[01:07] <dr_willis> for data drives i set that to 0%   system drives i may set it to 1%
[01:07] <dr_willis> on a 3TB /    1% is a lot ;)
[01:07] <GeorgeJ> Hmm, why set it to 0%? Will that no hinder file recovery
[01:07] <GeorgeJ> ?
[01:07] <GeorgeJ> Data drives can still fuck up.
[01:08] <dr_willis> for my video data external storage. i dont worrrry about recovery
[01:08] <dr_willis> i have backups
[01:08] <GeorgeJ> Hmm, that's a great point!
[01:08] <dr_willis> they are most always 98% full anyway
[01:08] <Gavin_v> great~
[01:10] <GeorgeJ> dr_willis: What option is it I need to modify with tune2fs? -m?
[01:11] <dr_willis>  -m0 i think.. check the man pages
[01:11] <kylescottmcgill> what do you call the command line operators ( && << ; ) i want to see if there is an exhaustive list somewhere
[01:11] <dr_willis> it can do it several ways
[01:12] <kylescottmcgill> do they have a name? operators isnt the correct terminology according to google
[01:12] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  most decent bash guides will covee them
[01:12] <mrj> I'm trying to install a PPA on a minimal install, I just need the add-apt-repository command to work. I installed python-software-properties but it just tells me "the program add-apt-repository" can be found in the following packages: pythonsoftwareproperties & softwarepropertiescommon
[01:12] <dr_willis>  << are redirection  operators..
[01:12] <dr_willis>  && and &  are job controll
[01:13] <kylescottmcgill> dr_willis: ty, so they have different names, not lumped into one named convention, i will just try find some guides :)
[01:14] <mrj> well nevermind.. it let me apt get them anyway
[01:16] <mic__> ciao
[01:17] <mic__> non riesco ad aprire ubuntu sofware center
[01:17] <WeThePeople> how do i resolve this>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1494011/
[01:18] <kylescottmcgill-> seems there is a limit to the username
[01:18] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: Add your hostname to /etc/hosts
[01:18] <mic__> chi puo aiutarmi
[01:18] <kslater> so don't make any of your host name 'root'
[01:19] <GeorgeJ> kslater: Why not?
[01:19] <WeThePeople> georgej, meaning ace??
[01:19] <kslater> so you don't run into that error that WeThePeople did?
[01:19] <GeorgeJ> kslater: It has nothing to do with the actual hostname, only with the fact that the system cannot resolve the hostname
[01:20] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: No, you need to edit /etc/hosts and add root 127.0.0.1
[01:20] <GeorgeJ> Or perhaps modify the old hostname(I'm assuming you changed the hostname).
[01:20] <kslater> doesn't the # prompt indicate that the user is already root?
[01:20] <WeThePeople> georgej, i mounted sda1 and bound dev, sys and proc
[01:20] <kslater> and if so, why is he using sudo?
[01:21] <WeThePeople> thankyou
[01:21] <kslater> why not just chown ace.ace .ICEauthority?
[01:21] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: Did it work?
[01:21] <WeThePeople> no
[01:21] <WeThePeople> hold on
[01:21] <GeorgeJ> kslater: Well, sudo can be used with the -u parameter, he didn't do it though so your point still applies.
[01:22] <WeThePeople> georgej, kslater, idk did it work>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1494031/
[01:23] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: There is another problem. I've no ideea what you're trying to do, and probably neither do you.
[01:23] <kslater> LOL
[01:23] <WeThePeople> not really
[01:23] <rrva__> how can I check in ubuntu, the number of spatial streams active for a 802.11n connection? just look at the bit rate from iwconfig?
[01:24] <mic__> ciao
[01:24] <kslater> WeThePeople: what does: ls -l .ICEauthority show?
[01:24] <mic__> chi puo aiutarmi
[01:25] <WeThePeople> kslater, brb
[01:26] <mic__> toc toc
[01:26] <somsip> !it | mic__
[01:27] <GeorgeJ> !google sudo: unable to resolve host root >> Webu
[01:27] <Shuri-> Results for sudo: unable to resolve host root >> Webu on Google:
[01:27] <Shuri-> --
[01:27] <GeorgeJ> Ooops, sorry!
[01:27] <blob4000> hi there. i think i had better stability with 12.04 LTS on my laptop, over 12.10. how best to back up my home folder and revert to 12.04 LTS?
[01:27] <mic__> thank george
[01:30] <dr_willis> blob4000:  best would have been to use a seperate /home/ partition
[01:31] <dr_willis> blob4000:  id just copy imporntant stuff to another hd, reinstall then copy it back
[01:32] <kslater> dr_willis: I always wonder if some package has moved it's data / format forward and that if I copy some config or data back it'll break the application
[01:33] <dr_willis> kslater:     ages ago i had issues with gnome and that. these days rarely see the problem
[01:33] <dr_willis> when in doubt reset back to defaults
[01:34] <kslater> good to know dr_willis
[01:34] <weThePeople> kslater, what was the question again?
[01:34] <GeorgeJ> weThePeople: http://bit.ly/RvB2q9
[01:35] <blob4000> thank dr_willis
[01:35] <weThePeople> georgej, that stuff doent work in BT5
[01:35] <GeorgeJ> weThePeople: What do you mean it doesn't work? Also, if you're running BT5, you're in the wrong channel.
[01:36] <vishnu1983> hi is there anyone who can help me with a font issue on ubuntu 11.10
[01:36] <kslater> weThePeople: you asked if what you did worked. I asked you to run: "ls -l .ICEauthority". If user and group are ace, then it worked.
[01:37] <arch> does anyone need help
[01:37] <vishnu1983> I seem to have a grayed out font color in gnome 3
[01:37] <vishnu1983> hi arch
[01:37] <arch> hello
[01:37] <F3Speech> arch: struggling with grub if you wouldnt mind
[01:38] <vishnu1983> i have a font related issue
[01:38] <sevenforall> I have a bunch of movies in a folder, of which some are in subfolders. Is there a terminal command that will automatically move everything from the subfolders to that one movie folder?
[01:38] <arch> no
[01:38] <F3Speech> arch: have essentially cloned one hdd to another and i cant fix grub with uuids to get it to boot
[01:38] <GeorgeJ> sevenforall: mv */* . methinks
[01:39] <sevenforall> I wonder if 'mv */* .' would work
[01:39] <dr_willis> vishnu1983: i belive thats more of a theme issue. i had to twiddle with the varoius themes once. fonte were unreadable in some apps/entry  fields
[01:39] <sevenforall> GeorgeJ: We think alike
[01:39] <GeorgeJ> sevenforall: You better check it out first
[01:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:39] <GeorgeJ> * might also match ..
[01:39] <sevenforall> GeorgeJ: Yeah, I'm going to set-up a test environment, I don't want to scr*w up my dire media collection :P
[01:40] <GeorgeJ> sevenforall: This is a perfect time for you to learn find. ^^
[01:40] <mcsx3> Good Evening! Everyone
[01:40] <mcsx3> Can anybody here helpme with a little prob?
[01:40] <UbuntuWarrior> Yes
[01:40] <mcsx3> thx
[01:41] <GeorgeJ> Another satisfied customer!
[01:41] <mcsx3> I'm trying to use a ZTE broadband G3 USB dongle
[01:41] <mcsx3> on Unbuntu 12.10
[01:42] <mcsx3> I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked
[01:44] <micmic> aiutooooooooooo
[01:45] <UbuntuWarrior> Ok what is the problem?
[01:45] <micmic> non riesco ad entrare in ubuntu software center
[01:45] <micmic> carica ma non parte
[01:46] <M13> is there anyone here that have heard of buildroot?
[01:47] <erreur> zhqts zrong zith error.
[01:48] <micmic> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:48] <sevenforall> GeorgeJ: I decided to be stupid and I ran 'mv ./*/* .' directly on the directory itself, it worked :D
[01:49] <mcsx3> Good Evening! Everyone
[01:49] <mcsx3> Can anybody here helpme with a little prob?
[01:49] <mcsx3> thx
[01:49] <mcsx3> I'm trying to use a ZTE broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10
[01:49] <mcsx3> I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked
[01:49] <FloodBot1> mcsx3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <micmic> aiutoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:50] <weThePeople> can somebody look at the .iceauthority file to see what is there
[01:51] <micmic> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:51] <dr_willis> in it you mean? weThePeople
[01:52] <k1l_> micmic: stop that please
[01:52] <weThePeople> dr_willis, yes
[01:52] <erreur> micmic jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[01:52] <micmic> ok ok
[01:52] <micmic> chi mi aiuta
[01:53] <erreur> soeak english
[01:53] <micmic> no
[01:53] <erreur> speak english yaaaaaaaaaaaw
[01:53] <erreur> french
[01:53] <erreur> ??
[01:53] <micmic> it
[01:53] <k1l_> !it | micmic
[01:54] <dulio> English is my only foreign language....
[01:54] <micmic> ci sono andato ma nessuno mi risponde
[01:54] <erreur> aywah that's right probably she ll understand
[01:54] <dulio> Make me confused.
[01:54] <erreur> dulio
[01:55] <erreur> is ther a aplication in 2012 like firesheep for example
[01:55] <erreur> ?
[01:55] <dulio> erreur, yea, what?
[01:55] <erreur> firesheep ? cant installe it on the blackbuntu
[01:56] <erreur> any help pleaaaaaaaaaaz
[01:56] <k1l_> erreur: blackbuntu is not supported here. we dont know what they changed. so better ask the blackbuntu support
[01:57] <erreur> wher i can finde it ?
[01:57] <k1l_> erm, i think they mention a irc channel on another irc-network on their page.
[01:58] <ezrafree> is there any easy way to just reinstall all of my X window system? it's hosed and the computer won't boot into X... I currently have like gnome/compiz, if that matters any...
[01:58] <jessejames> Good evening everyone
[01:59] <erreur> helooo
[01:59] <ezrafree> or any way to do a clean dist-upgrade or something? i'd really love to get my box running again
[01:59] <jjgalvez__> looking for help with the RTL-8185 wireless card, it recently (yesterday or today) started working very very slowly. Not sure how to troubleshoot it
[01:59] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: are you in close proximity to other houses/apartments/buildings?
[02:00] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: could it be a matter of channel interference?
[02:00] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: no more then it used to be, also other wireless computers in the same area seem to be working just fine
[02:01] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: yes, but.. the other networks can change which channel they run on at any time
[02:01] <ezrafree> there are programs which can scan wifi channels, not sure of any offhand for linux though
[02:02] <jessejames> Hi, Linux newbi here, can anyone tell me who to beef up my security on Linux so I can protect myself online ?
[02:02] <rrva__> jessejames: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[02:03] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: I am on channel 11, the only other network on channel 11 shows up at 29% signal strength. The other networks around me are on channels 6, and a couple on 1. suggest any specific channel I should try?
[02:03] <jessejames> thanks rrva
[02:03] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: the only suggestion is "the least used channel possible"
[02:04] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: but it sounds like you diagnosed the channels already, so i guess that's not the issue
[02:04] <ezrafree> jessejames: protect yourself from anything in particular?
[02:04] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: worth a try, I'll give it a try and report back
[02:05] <micmic> ciao
[02:06] <jessejames> hey ravv you there still ?
[02:06] <mcsx3> Good Evening! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[02:07] <ezrafree> jessejames: nope they left
[02:07] <jessejames> ok thanks, can u give me some advice ezrafree ?
[02:07] <ezrafree> jessejames: possibly, what's the question (never ask to ask, etc.)
[02:08] <jessejames> lol thanks
[02:08] <ezrafree> np
[02:09] <jessejames> I'm a looking to increase the security on my system for privacy online etc
[02:10] <BlueFuel> I am configuring Squid3 on Ubuntu 12.04.01
[02:10] <BlueFuel> If I have to enable NTML, do i need to Ubuntu Server to Windows Domain?
[02:12] <mega1> i want to add a user with a home dir in the drive sda6
[02:13] <ezrafree> jessejames: that's not very specific, have you tried googling things like "how to secure ubuntu" yet?
[02:15] <ezrafree> jessejames: that said, some of the usual ways of securing a box (whether server or desktop) would include firewalling, intrusion protection, things like that
[02:15] <jessejames> Yes I have but I'm new to linux so I was looking for someone more experienced to advise me
[02:20] <Tex_Nick> !virus | jessejames
[02:20] <mega1> i want to add a user with a home dir in the drive sda6
[02:20] <chiques_> Are there any recorded key logger malware instances for historical Ubuntu versions?
[02:21] <jessejames> Yes i'm aware of that but can other users hack my pc from online ?
[02:21] <jessejames> @tex_nick
[02:21] <ikonia> chiques_: ubuntu has not been released with key loggers or malware
[02:21] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : as far as online privacy ... bout the only thing you might worry about would be browser cookies used to track you
[02:22] <Klinx> chiques_, nope, nothing
[02:22] <jessejames> hmmm so there is notting to worry about ?
[02:22] <chiques_> ikonia, I'm referring to any "trojan" or "hijacking" type of programs for the intent of stealing a users' log information.
[02:22] <Klinx> altough there IS still a possibility, if the main server got compromised.
[02:23] <ikonia> chiques_: there is nothing been released as part of ubuntu, of course these programs exist
[02:23] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : well at the present time ... linux is practically the safest OS on the market
[02:23] <jessejames> really waw, thanks tex_nick
[02:24] <chiques_> ikonia, I understand this is not part of the Ubuntu release but I'm just curious of these attempts are caught by the Ubuntu developers
[02:24] <ikonia> chiques_: well, seeing as the ubuntu developers have control over what they release.....there has not been anything, because they control what is released.
[02:24] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : you're welcome
[02:25] <chiques_> ikonia, so who addresses security holes?
[02:25] <jessejames> how do you message me directly by the way ?
[02:25] <ikonia> chiques_: either the ubuntu team or the package upstream team, depending on where/what the issue is
[02:25] <NeoColossus1020_> Is there a way to pass multiple commands to apt-get? Ex: sudo apt-get -y autoclean, autoremove; instead of doing sudo apt-get autoclean; sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:28] <chiques_> ikonia, How does this security team know what to patch?
[02:28] <ikonia> security alerts
[02:29] <ikonia> chiques_: is there something your trying to resolve/understand here /
[02:29] <mega1> in ubuntu server12.04 how do i add a user with home dir on another partition
[02:30] <ikonia> mega1: -d /where/you/want/home
[02:31] <nards> hello
[02:31] <mega1> will it create the folder for me
[02:32] <ikonia> mega1: -m will create,
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : to chat privately with someone , depending on what client you use ... right click on their nick and choose "Open Dialog Window" or similar ... it's usually considered proper protocol to ask first though ... if that was what you were asking
[02:32] <chiques_> ikonia, I'm just wondering where the stop gap or the alarm is sounded when applications coming from Ukrainian or Chinese sources (like in Windows).
[02:32] <ikonia> chiques_: it doesn't work like that
[02:32] <chiques_> ikonia, Referrring to the book Worm
[02:33] <ikonia> chiques_: those applications coming from china/ukrain don't work the same way as on windows platforms
[02:33] <ikonia> they are not a concern
[02:33] <jessejames> Tex_Nick  :   <----------how do you get my name like that in the chat window
[02:35] <kashkraft> Hello World!
[02:35] <kashkraft> I'm attempting to compile a driver in Ubuntu for the Nexus 7
[02:36] <kashkraft> and Kconfig has warped my mind into mush
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> you can type a few letters of the persons nick, then hit tab ... that would do jessejames, though ... i backspace and then add the colon ... don't know why i do it  .. funny you ask ;-)
[02:36] <ikonia> got a real problem ?
[02:36] <ikonia> rather than some rambling about your mind being mush
[02:36] <kashkraft> When I compile, I'm receiving undefined variable warnings, but the variables should be defined from Kconfig, at least the file appears to define them.
[02:37] <ikonia> kashkraft: may not be defined in a reference
[02:38] <kashkraft> This is my first time sifting through source to debug a compile error. I spent hours googling yesterday. So, with that out of the way...
[02:38] <kashkraft> Does Makefile automatically find Kconfig?
[02:38] <ikonia> why do you keep going on about kconfig ?
[02:39] <jessejames> Tex_Nick, lol
[02:39] <kashkraft> Because it's the only place I know of to look. Like I said, I'm new to debugging source code compile errors. It's the only file that has the lines to define the variables that are throwing warnings.
[02:40] <ikonia> kashkraft: I'd suggest taking this to the #ubuntu-arm channel with people who are using the nexus platform with ubuntu to see if there are known/common errors
[02:40] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : tis hard to teach an old dog new tricks ;-)
[02:41] <ikonia> Tex_Nick: you appear to be having a private conversation with jessejames in public
[02:41] <ikonia> Tex_Nick: can you please take it to your private message window
[02:41] <kashkraft> This is a known error that I'm trying to sort out. I'm looking for an explanation of Kconfig so I can understand what's happening. It is a known issue listed.
[02:41] <ikonia> kashkraft: if it's a known error, what is the solution
[02:41] <m_> Hi! People
[02:41] <m_> can anybody help me with a little prob?
[02:41] <kashkraft> There's not one, that's why I'm attempting to find one :)
[02:41] <jessejames> Tex_Nick, true that
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> ikonia : i hear you ... we'll chill out
[02:43] <jessejames> by the way i'm using pinguy os, I get this boot option at start up with options to log into the system in  safe mode etc, dose anyone know how to disable it ?
[02:44] <ikonia> jessejames: use the pinguy os support resources please
[02:44] <ikonia> jessejames: we only support ubuntu here
[02:44] <m_> Good Evening! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[02:44] <jessejames> pinguy os is ubuntu :(
[02:44] <ikonia> jessejames: no, it's not, it's based off ubuntu
[02:44] <bazhang> jessejames, no its not. its not supported here
[02:45] <jessejames> hmmm really
[02:45] <bazhang> try #pinguyos jessejames
[02:45] <jessejames> what about ultimate edition it's not ubuntu either ?
[02:46] <bazhang> jessejames, correct its not supported here either
[02:47] <jessejames> damm i need to remove this os then
[02:47] <jessejames> thanks for clearing that up for me guys
[02:47] <Beast> I used to compile firefox 6 years ago in 20 minutes tops. The same computer is now taking more than an hour. Is this normal? Has Firefox gotten that bloated??
[02:47] <jessejames> bye
[02:47] <m_> Good Evening! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[02:49] <kashkraft> Good evening gentlemen. I'm attempting to compile the BCM4330 driver from source on Ubuntu and running into undefined variable warnings. This is a known issue (https://code.google.com/p/bcmon/issues/detail?id=8) that I'm attempting to fix. I'm new to compiling source code, however from tracing the variables they should be defined through the file Kconfig. My first question (apologies, I did Google): does Makefile automatically load Kconfig? It has the
[02:49] <kashkraft> calls (CONFIG_BCM4330), but the variables are left undefined. Any help or education is greatly appreciated :)
[02:49] <Beast> Makes me wonder what I'm compiling.
[02:52] <Tex_Nick> m_ : you need to be more specific with your question
[02:52] <HowdyDoody> On / I have /boot with new 12.10 stuff in it.    And /dev/sda1  has my main boots stuff on it but 12.04 is latest there.  It will be mount on /boot when I am done.  I've copied the contents of /boot to /dev/sda1, but I know there is more to do yet.  --------   I need to fix grub on /dev/sda1 to utilize the new stuff copied from /boot.  Not sure how to tackle that.
[02:54] <subcool> whats the deal with chrome? Flash is supposed to be stock.
[02:54] <subcool> why is facebook telling me i HAVE to update?
[02:55] <mega1> ok so i would use adduser mega1 -d /dev/sda6/mega1 -m mega1
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: Did you try boot-repair? That might put a bootloader entry where you need it
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install boot-repair ]
[02:56] <HowdyDoody> ok, I will try it.
[02:56] <Beast> .
[02:57] <subcool> whats a good linux video editor? my iphone rotated all my videos 90degrees counter clockwise :/
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Beast: ?
[02:57] <mega1> well that did not work
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Openshot
[02:58] <Beast> SonikkuAmerica: just a typo
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> k
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !u | SonikkuAmerica
[02:58] <NeoColossus1020_>  Is there a way to pass multiple commands to apt-get? Ex: sudo apt-get -y (autoclean && autoremove); that way I don't have to do: sudo apt-get -y autoclean; sudo apt-get -y autoremove
[02:58] <Beast> lol
[02:59] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, thank you..
[02:59] <SonikkuAmerica> NeoColossus1020_: Put an && as follows, for example, to perform that function:
[03:00] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get -y autoclean && sudo apt-get -y autoremove ]
[03:00] <Tex_Nick> subcool : ffmpeg has been a standard for years ... i think it's deprecated now though ... you can still install it though ... this isn't the channel for that sort of thing rhough :)
[03:00] <HowdyDoody> SonikkuAmerica: Strange,  --> E: Unable to locate package boot-repair      Tire a _      E: Unable to locate package boot_repair
[03:01] <subcool> Tex_Nick, thanks - just looking for a reference
[03:01] <NeoColossus1020_> So there's no way to pass both parameters (auto-clean && autoremove) to the same apt-get command?
[03:01] <subcool> i am curious about the flash thing..
[03:01] <n0hx> anyone know how to install intel HD 3000 drivers in ubuntu?
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: Oops, try this:
[03:01] <Muphrid> n0hx: they are installed in the xserver-xorg-video-intel package by default
[03:02] <n0hx> okay great thanks
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: [ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair ], then [ sudo apt-get update ] and install boot-repair again
[03:02] <HowdyDoody> ok
[03:02] <phssssssssss> does the latetst ubuntu come with tv viewer app ?
[03:03] <ikonia> there are tv viewing applications in the repo
[03:03] <Muphrid> phssssssssss: freetux is one of them
[03:03] <phssssssssss> those old one won't work
[03:03] <ikonia> phssssssssss: what do you mean, they won't work. They work fine
[03:04] <phssssssssss> they don't work with philips chip turner
[03:04] <machicola> anyone know how to make screen brightness changes permanent? using Ubuntu 12.10 w/gnome fallback X windows
[03:05] <subcool> i have to be the only person who doesnt know why flash has to be updated on crhome..
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: "Security issues"
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: At least that's what they cite, lol
[03:06] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, ugh- ok. than why is it complaining that i have to update it, isnt i automatic?
[03:06] <subcool> its stock with chrome...
[03:06] <subcool> i left chromium for that reason.
[03:07] <dr_willis> could be the update is not in the repos yet.
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Lubuntu I'm guessing?
[03:07] <Tex_Nick> subcool ... the "software center" recommends using avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg
[03:07] <subcool> kubuntu SonikkuAmerica
[03:07] <subcool> Tex_Nick, thanks. ill wiggle it- if i have to, ill just go back to my XP machine. :/
[03:07] <subcool> i havent had much luck with media editing on linux
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Interesting, stock with Chrome but not Rekonq -- but anyway dr_willis is probably onto something.
[03:08] <Transhumanist> I am trying to PXE boot Ubuntu 12.10 desktop and Xubuntu 12.10 desktop on my Toshiba Portege M200. Both load the graphical installer, but once I get to the "check you're plugged into power and the Internet then click continue" part, clicking continue makes the installer hang there. I can quit it and boot into the live CD, but that's all.
[03:08] <Transhumanist> Any thoughts?
[03:09] <Tex_Nick> subcool : ffmpeg is still a powerful tool ... runs on windoze & linux
[03:09] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, i remember reading that Chrome has it stock, and chromium it doesnt.
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Chrome has Flash stock, yes. I misunderstood.
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: I'm not too sure myself. I dumped Ubuntu entirely for Windoze Ate some time ago.
[03:11] <subcool> lol - i have win8
[03:11] <subcool> its ok.
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: And of course I have no qualms for autoupdating Flash.
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: On 8 that is
[03:11] <srwood> Transhumanist  You installing 64 bit or 32?
[03:11] <subcool> im really getting tired of these stupid updates
[03:11] <HowdyDoody> SonikkuAmerica: boot-repair is now asking for [dmraid] to be installed.   I do NOT have any raid disks.   I do have lvm2, though.
[03:11] <Transhumanist> srwood: 32bit
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: I would suggest booting from a Live CD then
[03:12] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, im not having much luck with avconv on apt- but.. like i said. im about ot just goto win. i have having ot configure EVERYTHING for somethig so simple.
[03:12] <srwood> Hmm  I've had probs with 64 on my toshiba but 32 works great.
[03:12] <subcool> like updating flash.. :/
[03:12] <Transhumanist> I'm downloading the alternate installer now - maybe it's due to a lack of RAM (only 512 mb)
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Same reason I dumped Ubuntu. Still, Linux (especially 64-bit) is tough to tailor to specific needs. But it's always been like that
[03:13] <srwood> yikes.  I have 6 gigs/
[03:13] <dr_willis> not really had any flash issues here on 64bit.. other then the smurf syndrome
[03:13] <ikonia> 64 bit is not tough at all
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: The ... smurf syndrome?
[03:13] <Transhumanist> Windows 8 was a nightmare for me
[03:13] <dr_willis> not had any issues i could blame on 64bit either
[03:13] <srwood> driver issues on 64
[03:13] <ikonia> windows has nothing to do with this channel
[03:13] <Transhumanist> I've had things run pretty much flawlessly on all my Ubuntu installs
[03:14] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  blue people in videos
[03:14] <srwood> hardware dependent
[03:14] <WeThePeople> can somebody check their .ICEauthority to see if it is set to 0600 and not 0644
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: More for me in particular... just upgraded from 32- to 64-
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: lol
[03:14] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: you can't upgrade from 32 to 64
[03:14] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: you need to do a clean install
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: That's what I did. *facepalms* Oops
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: I clean installed 64
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> To me 64 bits seems like a new can of worms to rot, but I digress
[03:15] <Transhumanist> I'd just like to note that I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my girlfriend's laptop after she had problem after problem with Windows 7 and poor performance, and she now loves Ubuntu. ;)
[03:16] <dr_willis> new? its been around for several years
[03:16] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: it's exactly the same techniques as 32bit
[03:16] <Transhumanist> eh, there's nothing wrong with 64-bit Ubuntu mate
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Well yeah, new to me (I had this 32-bit dino from like 2001)
[03:16] <dr_willis> i think linux 64bit is older then windows 64bit by some time also.
[03:17] <dr_willis> i basically only use 64bit ubuntu. with few issues.
[03:17] <n0hx> so im having sound issues in firefox, like music players won't play, any ideas what that could be?
[03:17] <ikonia> there are specific hardware vendors that will not release 64bit closed source drivers, this is a very small group
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Transhumanist: Ubuntu love, eh? lol But that's weird with the installer hanging.
[03:17] <dr_willis> and none i can blame on the 64bit part
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: I personally fared better with 32
[03:18] <wad> Okay, I give up. Can someone clue me how to tell Chromium to run applets?
[03:18] <Transhumanist> The installer hanging on my 2004 era laptop with various broken parts and 512mb of RAM when the installer requirs 1.5 times that? Not weird at all. I thought I'd ask if anybody had some tips though. :)
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: They don't run at all? They should
[03:18] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  but you sayd you havent used 64bit m uch.. ;) i have
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: *facepalms* What kind? CWS? Java? ...
[03:19] <wad> Java applets, sorry. I just realized that it's probably because Chromium can't find my version of java (which I installed manually). Any idea how to tell Chromium where my java is?
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: I've done both versions of Ubuntu (both hard install and Wubi) and 32 performed better than 64, I think however the reasons are obvious.
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Such as: Core 2
[03:20] <cheebu> hi all... happy new year!!!... I have a Radeon HD 6470M Graphics card are there drivers for it on ubuntu
[03:20] <cheebu> 12.04
[03:20] <Transhumanist> But 64-bit architectures are DIFFERENT to 32-bit ones. To run 32-bit stuff on 64-bit machines requires workarounds. It always has. Do a quick google search for problems running 32-bit applications on 64-bit Windows and you might realise attacking Linux for 32-bit apps not always running flawlessly on 64-bit distros is kind of... STUPID.
[03:20] <Transhumanist> happy new year cheebu :)
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Transhumanist: I've always gotten 64-bit stuff for 64
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> and 32 for 23
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> O.o
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> *32
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> 23-bit machinery... not even once.
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Can you find a Java plugin in CWS?
[03:22] <wad> CWS?
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Chrome Web Store, sorry
[03:23] <wad> ah
[03:23] <wad> Well, I need to run a specific version of Java.
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> (That would be akin to christening Google Play Store GPS! lol)
[03:23]  * wad is currently looking around in menus
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Hmmm...
[03:24]  * SonikkuAmerica is currently Googling
[03:24] <wad> me too
[03:24] <wad> :)
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Might I ask why you need a specific version? Why not just have the most recent OpenJDK or Java at the ready?
[03:26] <wad> That's a good question. I write stuff in Java, so I need to have control over which version of Java I have on my laptop.
[03:26] <wad> I have four versions installed, with a symbolic link to choose which one I want to use.
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> One second...
[03:27] <wad> I'm writing a java web application right now, and it's going to need an applet in it. I haven't bothered to configure chromium to run applets yet.
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Does OpenJDK have all the older versions packed into it or do they need to be installed 1 by 1?
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> (Public question)
[03:27]  * wad nods
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: OK, so we need Chromium to reference the correct version...
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Does [ ln -s ] work at all?
[03:28] <wad> Yes. Ideally, I would just create a symbolic link from my java to some directory... yes
[03:28] <wad> There is a /opt/google/
[03:29] <wad> I just don't know which directory to link the right .so file into. I've tried four different ones; none work.
[03:29] <wad> I guess I could try diving the source of Chromium... ;)
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> I would assume using [ ln -s ] to change the link for /usr/bin/java/ &-or /usr/lib/java/ would work (not sure)
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> *or openjdk if you have that
[03:30] <wad> That would work.
[03:31] <wad> How does Chromium know where to find java?
[03:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Give it a shot
[03:31] <wad> This is a mystery.
[03:31] <wad> I'll try it. Maybe it will just find it there in the expected location.
[03:31] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: I'm thinking it defaults to /usr/bin/java or /usr/bin/openjdk but...
[03:32] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: A note of warning, though... Chromium will hate you.
[03:32] <wad> lol
[03:32] <SonikkuAmerica> It will point at you and scream "HAX!"
[03:32] <mega1> i dont want a user too see any other folder than there home folder when using ftp
[03:33] <wad> heh
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: In other words, you don't want to share those folders
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Other than /home/<whoever>/
[03:34] <mega1> i think so
[03:34] <mega1> yes but only for that user
[03:34] <fungoat> Anybody know of an easy way to wipe a drive, including LVM data, from the Live CD/USB?
[03:35] <MoL0ToV> also i was unable to share a single folder
[03:35] <fungoat> Trying to install over the top of Fedora 17.
[03:35] <MoL0ToV> via nautilus
[03:35] <MoL0ToV> don't work
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> fungoat: Smash it with a hammer. lol. Seriously, use gparted
[03:36] <SonikkuAmerica> GParted should take care of it if you select the drive and say "Erase"
[03:36] <MoL0ToV> fungoat: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M
[03:36] <Sling> gparted doesn't really wipe, it will just fiddle with the partition map
[03:36] <MoL0ToV> for about 30 sec, then ctrl+c
[03:36] <ikonia> fungoat: you should have to to nothing, just make sure you tell the installer to format the partition at install time
[03:36] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: there is zero need for that
[03:36] <fungoat> SonikkuAmerica: Tried. No dice.
[03:36] <Sling> use dban if you want to wipe
[03:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Odd, GParted didn't work... Well, every program has its limits
[03:37] <fungoat> ikonia: I wish. I get I/O errors during the install when going that route.
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> i love dd :D
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> and also the led of hard disk always on
[03:37] <ikonia> fungoat: ok, that suggests there is more of a problem
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> for a while
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> what windows is unable to do
[03:37] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1:
[03:37] <mega1> how do i do that
[03:37] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: please try to offer real help, than help based on you liking an LED blinking
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> :)
[03:38] <Sling> MoL0ToV: windows can do that fine, what are you going on about
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> ikonia i use dd to wipe disk, is the surely way
[03:38] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> more safer
[03:38] <Sling> MoL0ToV: depends on what you mean with 'wipe'
[03:38] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: he's not asking to "wipe a disk"
[03:38] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: he's trying to install ubuntu over the partition layout created by fedora
 Anybody know of an easy way to wipe a drive, including LVM data, from the Live CD/USB?
[03:39] <MoL0ToV> the question is clear.
[03:39] <ikonia> I missed that part, apologies
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Run [ sudo gedit /etc/vsftpd.conf ] in a terminal and add this: [ chroot_list_enable=YES ] and [ chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list ]
[03:39] <ikonia> you need to use gksudo - not sudo for gedit
[03:40] <Transhumanist> MoL0ToV: why did you choose bs=2M, out of curiousity?
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: I had no problems from a GUI, but you're right if it's not a GUI
[03:40] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: if it's a gui app - you need to use gksudo - not sudo
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> So yes mega1: [ gksudo ] not just [ sudo ]
[03:40] <MoL0ToV> Transfusion, to use caching, if you don't specify reads 512byte blocks that is very slow than read 2M at time
[03:41] <subcool> Just realizing- so how the hell do i fix the flash for Chrome?
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Then [ gksudo gedit /etc/vsftpd.chroot_list ] and restrict the users you wish.
[03:41] <Transhumanist> righto :)
[03:41] <litropy> Hi, all. I've got a standard apache2 installation on Ubuntu. I accedentally chowned the www dir, and I need to chown it back to what it was. What was it originally?
[03:41] <fungoat> MoL0ToV: How long should the dd procedure take?
[03:42] <MoL0ToV> you notice this when datapiping to netcat to do remote raw images
[03:42] <Transhumanist> depends on drive size, fungoat
[03:42] <fungoat> 256GB SSD
[03:42] <Transhumanist> maybe a few minutes if it's a few hundred gig
[03:42] <subcool> Tex_Nick, thanks for the info - but it didnt work out. ffmpeg is depreciated, avconv is- a pain- atleast to install, I tried openshot- doesnt support it.. and now im using avidemux, but i keeps messing up the sound.
[03:42] <Transhumanist> it won't give you any status updates until dd completes
[03:42] <fungoat> Transhumanist: Is there a verbose option?
[03:42] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Or to limit all users, just uncomment [ chroot_local_user=YES ] in the /etc/vsftpd.conf file.
[03:43] <MoL0ToV> fungoat, yes, but if you want merely delete partitions lvm and have a ready disk for a new install, you can simply run dd for 30 secs, then CTRL+C
[03:43] <Transhumanist> http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd
[03:43] <MoL0ToV> wothout blanking ENTIRELY the disk with zeroes
[03:44] <fungoat> Thank you Transhumanist and MoL0ToV. Wish me luck…
[03:44] <MoL0ToV> is waste of time if the data on the disk is not sensible data
[03:44] <psusi> fungoat, if you get IO errors then your drive is probably broke... check the SMART status in the disk utility
[03:44] <Tex_Nick> subcool : if you want we could go to private chat ... i would be glad to help you with ffmpeg ... it will do more than you can imangine ;)
[03:45] <litropy> Is anyone here running apache2?
[03:45] <subcool> i tried to laod it, and it said to use avconv. im going to bed now anyways- thanks. it wsa just to edit something funny for my friend. But now facebook wont even let me upload it, so f. it
[03:45] <psusi> fungoat, you also don't want to go writing all over an SSD.. writes wear them out
[03:45] <Transhumanist> fungoat: why are you doing it this way?
[03:45] <fungoat> psusi: I'm hoping not.
[03:45] <Transhumanist> do you just want to erase the partition to make news ones or install a new OS?
[03:46] <Transhumanist> if so, use GParted erase instead.
[03:46] <litropy> ActionParsnip, You'll probably know: by default, what owner is assigned to www in apache2? I chowned it accidentally.
[03:46] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: Thanks for the advice on changing my wifi channel, that did the trick, now my speed it back to normal. Really odd most of the channels give me horrible but I found one that works great!
[03:46] <Tex_Nick> subcool : ok
[03:46] <MoL0ToV> good night people!
[03:46] <fungoat> Transfusion: Yes. Exekept the LVMs from Fedora won't go away. Even with GParted.
[03:46] <Transhumanist> righto
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Litropy:   root:www    maybe......
[03:46] <Transhumanist> odd
[03:46] <psusi> fungoat, what do you mean they won't go away?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> fungoat: wipefs might remove the stale LVM signatures, though they shouldn't generally cause problems. What problem are you actually having?
[03:47] <MoL0ToV> a question: in gnome2, gnome panel, etc... howto enable normal windows scroller? the one present, that appears only rollover, is frustrating me...
[03:47] <fungoat> psusi: They cannot be wiped in GParted or Fedora's Disks utility.
[03:48] <psusi> fungoat, gparted can delete them just fine
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> Jjgalvez__: there are lines you can add to /etc/sysctl.conf   to make it a little faster by using more RAM as cache
[03:48] <somsip> litropy: www-data is the usual owner of the apache2 process, and /var/www is chown root:www-data
[03:48] <fungoat> psusi: Unfortunately, not the case here.
[03:49] <psusi> fungoat, you'll have to be more specific
[03:49] <jjgalvez__> ActionParsnip: do you know of a good tutorial, the ones I've read are really confusing
[03:49] <MoL0ToV> dd destroy everything, try it more simple and linear
[03:49] <psusi> dd also wears out the ssd
[03:49] <Sling> you dont want the webcontent to be owned by www-data or by root
[03:49] <n0hx> i just discovered tails
[03:49] <n0hx> so cool
[03:49] <Sling> use a separate user for that
[03:50] <MoL0ToV> don't wear the ssd for a single pass.. of only 30 seconds :)
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Jjgalvez__: http://db.tt/8g8vppc7    add those lines to the file. Works well on my 2Gb RAM system
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> N0hx: as in the Sega character?
[03:52] <jjgalvez__> ActionParsnip: Thanks I'll give those a try
[03:52] <MoL0ToV> Timing buffered disk reads: 350 MB in  3.02 seconds = 115.87 MB/sec my ssd is so slow... the specs say 500Mbyte/s..
[03:52] <Transhumanist> SSD lifetime is huge these days anyway
[03:53] <MoL0ToV> i can try to enable ahci instead ide in bios? is more faster?
[03:53] <psusi> ahci is better, whether it is faster or not you'll have to see
[03:54] <MoL0ToV> a question: in gnome2, gnome panel, etc... howto enable normal windows scroller? the one present, that appears only rollover, is frustrating me...
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> MolL0tov: use hdparm to check dma is enabled and so forth
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: didn't know lucid had overlay scrollbars...
[03:55] <goddard> how should i format my hard drive with a fresh install it is 1TB
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: for only Ubuntu?
[03:56] <psusi> goddard, you'll have to be more specific
[03:56] <MoL0ToV> DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
[03:56] <MoL0ToV> udma6 is possible that is a brake for my ssd disk?
[03:57] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip, i use quantal
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: for me, 20gb / ext4. 1.1xRAM for swap ( I assume 2gb RAM or greater) and the rest s ext4 for /home
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: gnome2 isn't in any of Quantal
[03:59] <MoL0ToV> who are called... gnome2 mode... backward? i don't remember
[03:59] <MoL0ToV> when you select gnome2 classic in gdm
[04:00] <litropy> somsip, I'm not familiar with the syntax. root is the owner and www-dta is the group?
[04:00] <litropy> www-data*
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: Quantal uses gnome 3. You can install gnome-panel and get something like the old style session
[04:00] <MoL0ToV> exatly
[04:00] <Graymayre> can someone assist me with installing ubuntu 32 thru windows, it wants to automatically install 64
[04:01] <MoL0ToV> there i have a disgusting rollover windows scrolling bars
[04:01] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : that's interesting ... do you segregate /home for backuo or ???
[04:01] <somsip> litropy: that's right
[04:01] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip,  i set the crux theme, but the bars classic of crux don't appears
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: yes, backup as well as easy reinstall
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/disable-ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[04:02] <MoL0ToV> thanks
[04:02] <Fonsie> i have a question about duel boot installation, can anybody please help
[04:02] <Graymayre> what about it
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: amazing what a quick websearch brings up huh....
[04:03] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : hey thanks for that ... i've done it the hard way for years :(
[04:03] <MoL0ToV> surely a menu config item to disable... to associate at this command is needed.. my grandfather scream if i say to him to open terminal and place this command :D
[04:03] <Graymayre> dual boot isnt manual anymore, it sets up automatically now
[04:04] <Fonsie> i tried installing by downloading to portable hard drive and set it to boot from it and nothing happened
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: I also shove my web cache in tempfs for speed :-). Its good for SSDs too, fewer writes with worthless data
[04:04] <Fonsie> it just signed me into my windows
[04:04] <Graymayre> what are you running from internal?
[04:05] <Fonsie> i have it booting from usb portable hard drive
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Molo0tov: maybe, but its sometimes easier to give a command users can copy snd paste too. Both ways have merit
[04:05] <Graymayre> but is your MBR on your external drive?
[04:05] <Fonsie> mbr?
[04:05] <Graymayre> when you installed it, were you running another OS on a hard drive located internally?
[04:06] <Fonsie> my main OS is windows 7 and it is on internal hdd
[04:06] <Graymayre> thats why
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: you can run dconf-settings and do it manually if you want, or you can just run the command
[04:06] <Fonsie> seperate from external drive
[04:06] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip, i tryed to logout and login but overlay scrollbars still here
[04:06] <Graymayre> MBR (master boot record)
[04:06] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : ok ... i luv that ... gotta reconfigure this box now ... thanks for the tip
[04:06] <Graymayre> it is loaded in the 100 meg partition on the front of your windows 7 drive
[04:07] <litropy> somsip, thx I'm all set.
[04:07] <Fonsie> the website said i can install from portable hdd or disk
[04:07] <Graymayre> yes, as long as it is configured to have its own boot record
[04:07] <Graymayre> in that case, have you configured your bios to boot from it yet>?
[04:07] <Fonsie> and i set it to boot from portable usb hdd and it just signs into windows anyways
[04:08] <Graymayre> have you disconnected your internal drive?
[04:08] <Fonsie> i put my usb hdd #1 on boot list
[04:08] <Fonsie> and no i have not
[04:08] <Graymayre> keep in mind, default setting is to boot in an order, your internal drive by default comes first
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: I use a symlink from ~/.config/google-chrome to /run/google-chrome   I have commands in /etc/rc.local to recreate the folder and chown it each boot
[04:08] <Graymayre> alright, disconnect it and try again
[04:08] <Fonsie> yeah, i set it to boot from portable and did nothing
[04:09] <somsip> litropy: cool. But that was just answering your question. As others have said, there may be security issues around using default permissions, but that's a different matter
[04:09] <kujablak> hi, I've got two partitions / and /home and I want to switch from 10.10 to kubuntu 12.10
[04:09] <Graymayre> what kind of computer
[04:09] <Fonsie> gateway netbook running windows7
[04:09] <Graymayre> I have an issue where the bios wont load USB or 1394 ports on my laptop
[04:09] <litropy> somsip, thx for the heads up.
[04:09] <arch> oes anyone need help?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: if you like the old style session,  why not just use XFCE, you can run all your Gnome applications there without issue
[04:09] <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, type /j #ubuntu-quality
[04:10] <Graymayre> it is possible that it cant because the bios wont initialize those ports until an OS loads
[04:10] <kujablak> arch, I'd like to know how to make an inventory of all the softwares I installed so I can upgrade
[04:10] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip, i try it
[04:10] <Graymayre> but of course, being a netbook it should be able to because it has no internal cd rom drive to do installs from
[04:10] <Fonsie> so what do i need to do?
[04:10] <MoL0ToV> are available also compix in xfce? and effects?
[04:11] <Graymayre> google booting from USB on your particular model of netbook
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: you only need the xfce4 package,  then log off and log in to the xfce session
[04:11] <Fonsie> i think i downloaded the wrong file to hdd, i just tried opening it and it says its a file to be burned to a disk and asks me to select a burner
[04:11] <Graymayre> ah
[04:11] <Graymayre> probably so
[04:12] <Graymayre> you will have to do an actual install to it
[04:12] <Graymayre> you cant just copy files
[04:12] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  whats the filea name?
[04:12] <Fonsie> can you link a clean download?
[04:12] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : you see a significant performance with that ??? ... BTW haven't seen you in a while ... hope you had a great holiday :-)
[04:12] <Fonsie> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64
[04:12] <Graymayre> just go to the ubuntu download site
[04:13] <Graymayre> it will give you an ISO image
[04:13] <Graymayre> you will have to burn it to disk
[04:13] <Graymayre> and then install from that disk
[04:13] <Graymayre> OR
[04:13] <Fonsie> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[04:13] <Fonsie> that is the url for the page i downloaded from
[04:13] <Graymayre> hold on, brb
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: thanks. You too :-), its slightly faster. No point going through RAM and to the storage,  waste of time. Eeb cache isnt really needed nowadays.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Geaymayre: you forgit MD5 testing
[04:14] <Graymayre> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[04:14] <Graymayre> do boot from USB stick
[04:14] <Fonsie> i did
[04:14] <Graymayre> install it like the external drive is a USB stick
[04:14] <Fonsie> and it goes straight to windows
[04:15] <Fonsie> it lists the brand and everything of my hdd
[04:15] <Fonsie> it is #1 on my boot list
[04:15] <Graymayre> what kind of external drive interface are you using?
[04:15] <Graymayre> brand i mean
[04:15] <dr_willis> if you dont see a grub menu, then its either booting the wrong hd. or you put grub on the wrong mbr
[04:15] <Fonsie> Western Digital
[04:16] <Graymayre> it may require driver support, which is not recognized by the bios
[04:16] <Graymayre> it will still recognize it and list it
[04:16] <Graymayre> but not more than that
[04:17] <Fonsie> can you confirm that is the correct file to have on the hdd when i boot from it
[04:17] <MoL0ToV> lightdm support multiple session like gdm? (kde,fce,gnome-classic, gnome3) or no?
[04:17] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  how did you install to the usb?
[04:17] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  it does
[04:17] <Fonsie> i didnt just copied the file i downloaded from the site to it
[04:18] <MoL0ToV> preload deamon is suggested to speedup system? why is not installed by default on ubuntu?
[04:18] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  err.. you did it wrong then.. whats on the usb now? just a big ubuntu.iso ?
[04:18] <Fonsie> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64
[04:18] <Fonsie> that is the file that i copied to it
[04:18] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  you did it wrong then
[04:18] <Graymayre> you have to use the linux universal usb installer
[04:18] <dr_willis> you use a tool to properly make a bootable usb drive
[04:19] <Graymayre> and load the iso in it and let it do its work
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: how did you "copy" it?
[04:19] <Fonsie> dragged it
[04:19] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  you did it wrong then...
[04:19] <Graymayre> lol
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: grab a copy of unetbootin
[04:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:19] <MoL0ToV> openoffice start in 1 sec with preload daemon! sound great! :)
[04:19] <Graymayre> alright, you got him, can someone assist me with something?
[04:20] <Fonsie> so what exactly am i downloading and doing?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: simply copying and pasting is not going to work, you need software to set it up right
[04:20] <Graymayre> I need to load 32 bit ubuntu instead of 64, the windows isntaller automatically installs 64
[04:20] <dr_willis> you put the iso on your hard drive. delete it from the usb. use a TOOL from pendrivelinux website to make a bootable usb disk from the iso
[04:21] <Graymayre> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[04:21] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  a tool such as unetbootin, or others
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: unetbootin,  use that. Point it to the ISO you downloadd, ensure the correct drive letter is set to transfr to as well as persistence if it is needed
[04:22] <Fonsie> ok, thank you
[04:23] <Graymayre> ok, ill try a different route than the windows installer, I need to make my USB stick bootable, but for the 32 bit installer instead.  I need to burn the iso directly to it and make it bootable
[04:23] <dr_willis> you can image the iso to the usb and it should be bootable
[04:24] <Graymayre> with what tool
[04:24] <PoorCollegeGuy> Graymayre, use unetbootin
[04:24] <MoL0ToV> xfce is beautiful. i migrate all 200 pc in my domain! :)
[04:24] <PoorCollegeGuy> "burns" the iso to a usb stick to install
[04:24] <Graymayre> i dont want to install ubuntu on it, just the installer
[04:24] <dr_willis> dd, or ohther win imageing tools , of you dont want to go the unetbootin type route
[04:24] <Transhumanist> Graymayre: no, the windows installer does NOT automatically instal 64 bit Ubuntu
[04:24] <dr_willis> the windows installer = wubi
[04:24] <Transhumanist> I've used that Windows installer dozens of times to setup a 32bit live USB
[04:24] <Graymayre> it did for me
[04:25] <Graymayre> it didnt offer me the option
[04:25] <Transhumanist> Are you asking Universal USB installer to download the ISO for you, or are you supplying it yourself?
[04:25] <Graymayre> i have the 32 bit 12.10 iso
[04:25] <Fonsie> ok, another question....my windows is 64bit, should i put 64 or 32bit ubuntu on it?
[04:25] <Graymayre> need to install it on my secondary drive
[04:25] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  i use 64bit os on 64bit hardware
[04:25] <Transhumanist> and when you open universal  USb installer, what's the first option you get to choose?
[04:26] <Transhumanist> the drop down box of different distros?
[04:26] <PoorCollegeGuy> Graymayre, unetbootin turns it into a bootable usb drive, but once you boot into it, there is an option to install linux on the computer itself
[04:26] <PoorCollegeGuy> i just did it to my laptop an hour ago
[04:26] <Graymayre> i have to go with 32 bit because of my wireless stick
[04:26] <rd4> can I use script modify the network-manager static ip address infomation?
[04:26] <Graymayre> >Fonsie
[04:26] <Transhumanist> yeah that's fine. 32-bit is fine.
[04:26] <Graymayre> i owuld use 64 if i could, and i have been but without wireless support
[04:27] <Graymayre> linksys AE2500 if anyone is familiar with my issue
[04:27] <Graymayre> but ok, unetbootin it is
[04:28] <fungoat> Anyone else have issues with 12.10 not recognizing an Intel HD3000 chip (Lenovo X201)?
[04:28] <fward> I was wondering if someone might help me with something. I connected a ubuntu desktop to a windows domain. Afterward the terminal window does not show PS1 and terminal window shortcuts are not functioning. I am using bash for the shell
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Graymayre: if its a usb wifi stick then just buy one kniwn to work, they are cheap
[04:28] <Transhumanist> fward: once off or recurrs upon restart?
[04:29] <ikonia> fward: does the prompt show "noname"
[04:29] <rd4> ok.I find the ansert at  /NetworkManager/system-connection
[04:29] <dr_willis> fward:  try 'echo $SHELL'  to be sure. try sourceing your .profile and .bashrc files
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Fward: what if you run:  source ~/.bashrc      is anything output?
[04:30] <Fonsie> does my portable have to be formatted in order to install iso to it?
[04:30] <fward> it shows $ only at shell. I echoed $SHELL and it is reporting /bin/bash it happens while logged in. After I login to local account all goes back to normal
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: yes
[04:30] <fward> So I am guessing it is a local config file, but I am unsure where the settings for the terminal shortcuts are kept
[04:31] <Fonsie> and how much space do i need?
[04:31] <ikonia> fward: I suspect your domain is setting the home directory wrong so there is no bashrc/bash_profile/profile to source
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie 800mb. You can use the remaining space for persistence
[04:32] <fward> hm, yeah forgot about that. so set that manually and all should be good to go. I will try it, ikonia.
[04:32] <Graymayre> just out of cursiosity, the windows installer, what does it mean by "install size"?
 just out of cursiosity, the windows installer, what does it mean by "install size"?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> Huuuh? Could you show me where you downloaded it?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> Oh, you mean Wubi?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> So you want to install Ubuntu on top of your Windows partition instead of to its own partition?
[04:34] <Graymayre> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[04:34] <Graymayre> yes
[04:34] <Graymayre> NO
[04:34] <Graymayre> lol
[04:34] <Transhumanist> That's Wubi
[04:35] <Transhumanist> do you want to install Ubuntu on its own partition or not?
[04:35] <Graymayre> i already installed it on a separate drive
[04:35] <Graymayre> its done
[04:35] <Graymayre> my question was about the "install size" selection
[04:35] <Transhumanist> Wubi isn't what you want. That Windows installer isn't what you want. It's something rather different and less stable.
[04:35] <PoorCollegeGuy> doesn't it cap the ubuntu download at 40GB too?
[04:35] <PoorCollegeGuy> 40GB = useless
[04:35] <Graymayre> 30
[04:36] <Graymayre> but anyway
[04:36] <Transhumanist> My Ubuntu install is usually 15gb or so. 40 gb is plenty if you have another HD
[04:36] <Graymayre> what are the different install sizes for?
[04:36] <Graymayre> what does it add or cut out?
[04:36] <Transhumanist> Stop using that, Graymayre
[04:36] <Transhumanist> it's not for you
[04:36] <Graymayre> im not
[04:36] <Transhumanist> oh ok
[04:36] <Transhumanist> well it's just capped at 30gb for the Wubi install
[04:36] <Graymayre> im using a USB stick now installine 32 bit instead because of issues with a wireless adapter
[04:36] <Transhumanist> presumably due to performance or stability reasons
[04:37] <usr13> Graymayre: So how much free space do you have?
[04:37] <Graymayre> just compatibility with a specific piece of hardware
[04:37] <Graymayre> 3 TB :P
[04:37] <Transhumanist> Wubi installs Ubuntu on an ext filesystem on TOP of an NTFS file system, whilst keeping whatever was already on the NTFS file system intact
[04:37] <usr13> Graymayre: What you want is suggestion for partition(s) size for your install?  Right?
[04:37] <Graymayre> i absolutely wouldnt do that
[04:38] <Graymayre> i am using a separate 250 GB hdd
[04:38] <usr13> Graymayre: 8G for swap,  30G for /  and the rest for /home
[04:38] <Transhumanist> depends on your RAM size
[04:38] <Graymayre> i have 4 drives, 2 win7 (32/64) win2k or xp soon, and ubuntu for the last
[04:38] <Transhumanist> you may not need such a large swap
[04:39] <Graymayre> well i will leave on default options
[04:39] <usr13> Graymayre: How much RAM do you have?
[04:39] <Graymayre> 4
[04:39] <Graymayre> dell xps 720, old but decked
[04:39] <Transhumanist> 8GB sounds good then yeah :)
[04:39] <usr13> Graymayre: 4 or 5G for swap is ok.
[04:39] <Transhumanist> I'd choose 8GB so I could hibernate
[04:39] <usr13> Graymayre: 8 even better... Yes
[04:39] <Graymayre> i am a linux noob, what is swap, is that like ram?  or pagefile in windows?
[04:40] <Transhumanist> yeah, like pagefile on Windows
[04:40] <iBurley> like a pagefile
[04:40] <Graymayre> gotcha, hard ram
[04:40] <Ailos> why is the driver version in the software centre older than the driver on the manufacturer site?
[04:40] <Graymayre> alright i am learning something :)
[04:40] <usr13> Graymayre: "virtual memory" in "MS-Windows" speak is what it amounts to,.
[04:40] <Graymayre> right
[04:40] <Graymayre> old win2k server admin here
[04:40] <Transhumanist> Ailos: software centre versions are stable and vetted. But they may not be the latest version for that reason
[04:40] <usr13> !swap | Graymayre
[04:40] <Graymayre> complete n00b here
[04:41] <Ailos> they are more stable than Nvidias current version?
[04:41] <Graymayre> gotcha
[04:41] <iBurley> So I have a problem in Ubuntu, specifically in TeamSpeak, I can't set my side buttons as push to talk, or anything else, but they still take me forward and backwards in my browser. Any way to fix that?
[04:41] <Transhumanist> maybe. or the guy maintaining it is just lazy
[04:41] <usr13> Graymayre: That's ok.  You've come to the right place.  Plenty of info here.
[04:41] <Graymayre> alright, anyone familiar with the linksys AE2500 wireless USB stick compatibility issues?
[04:41] <Ailos> alright, ill try the centres version
[04:42] <Transhumanist> Ailos: yeah when it comes to drivers, it's usually not laziness but performance and stability that the reason the version might be older in the repo
[04:42] <Graymayre> nice big 13 page thread on it and I am a monkey in a nuclear lab
[04:42] <Transhumanist> Graymayre: so what've you done so far? Have you used Universal USB Creator or Unetbootin to create a USB boot drive for Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit?
[04:43] <Ailos> ok, thank you
[04:43] <Graymayre> unet
[04:43] <Transhumanist> And did it install properly?
[04:43] <Graymayre> this will be easy from here
[04:43] <Graymayre> yes, to the usb
[04:43] <Graymayre> i am currently using the computer tho
[04:43] <Transhumanist> Does it boot?
[04:43] <Transhumanist> ah ok
[04:43] <Graymayre> i need to get irc on my phone
[04:43] <Transhumanist> haha
[04:43] <Graymayre> recommendations?
[04:44] <nalidixic> Hi All. I have an Ubuntu install I'm using to play around with some hobby projects. My understanding with mysql is that I should be using mysqld_safe to run the server however when I reboot my Ubuntu install mysqld starts. How can I change that?
[04:44] <arch> nalidixic
[04:44] <Transhumanist> When you were in 64-bit Ubuntu with the broken wireless radio, did you check for a proprietary driver to use?
[04:44] <Transhumanist> Maybe that would've fixed it.
[04:44] <Graymayre> check this out regarding that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805830
[04:44] <Graymayre> no proprietary driver
[04:45] <arch> wow
[04:45] <arch> n00buntu
[04:45] <Graymayre> none to date
[04:45] <Graymayre> yepper
[04:45] <Graymayre> u nailed it arch
[04:45] <Ailos> so uh, the Installing Packages window is just solid gray instead of installing my driver, thats probably not a good thing?
[04:45] <Transhumanist> That's an 11 page thread, man. What specifically did you want me to look at?
[04:46] <Graymayre> sorry mate, i have looked at it for a while and got very little out of it
[04:46] <Graymayre> check out page 4
[04:46] <Transhumanist> Ailos: wait a few minutes, if nothing happens, restart and try again. That's what I'd do. Or find the package name and use apt-get instead (I prefer this)
[04:46] <Graymayre> nvm, let me find it and lik
[04:46] <Graymayre> link
[04:46] <Ailos> alright, ill be patient
[04:47] <Transhumanist> Garymayre: a lot of hardware is very closed-source and proprietary and the manufacturers don't like Linux. So sometimes it's just a case of buying from better companies. Doesn't always help when you have existing hardware that you want to use though.
[04:47] <Graymayre> exactly
[04:48] <Graymayre> and little to no extra money to get something compatible
[04:48] <Tex_Nick> nalidixic : if you don't get an answer here ... you might try #mysql & #httpd
[04:48] <usr13> Graymayre: You know that thread is a couple years old.  Right?
[04:49] <Graymayre> im just going to try from step one on 32 bit and see if ndiswrapper will solve the issue on it
[04:49] <Graymayre> yes
[04:49] <Graymayre> a year
[04:49] <Graymayre> BUT
[04:49] <usr13> Graymayre: Is a wireless card your issue?
[04:49] <Graymayre> if you go to the most recent posts it is just starting form the beginning again and rehashing
[04:49] <Graymayre> it is, USB wireless stick
[04:49] <iBurley> Does Ubuntu have problems recognizing side mouse buttons?
[04:49] <Transhumanist> So Graymayre, when you install 32-bit Ubuntu, be sure to check the proprietary drivers list in the software sources section of the system preferences
[04:50] <Transhumanist> you might have a driver listed for your wireless radio after all
[04:50] <Graymayre> alright
[04:50] <usr13> Graymayre: Is it in now?
[04:50] <Graymayre> (thats what she said)
[04:50] <Graymayre> but no, still on the computer im talking to you on
[04:50] <Graymayre> oh, the stick, yes
[04:50] <Graymayre> but im on windows 7
[04:50] <usr13> Graymayre: And you are booted to MS Windows?
[04:51] <Graymayre> yep
[04:51] <usr13> Graymayre: Just do the install and see what happens.
[04:51] <Graymayre> i didnt know how to check proprietary drivers before
[04:51] <Graymayre> should i try it with the 64 bit version first?
[04:51] <Graymayre> see if it actually is there?
[04:52] <usr13> Graymayre: I would use 32bit
[04:52] <Transhumanist> just go with 64-bit
[04:52] <Transhumanist> you've only got 4gb of RAM anyway
[04:52] <usr13> Graymayre: There is not much in the way of specific advice we can give because we don't know much about the hardware yet.
[04:53] <Transhumanist> *32-bit
[04:53] <Transhumanist> I mean go with 32-bit
[04:53] <Graymayre> alright
[04:53] <Graymayre> anyone play eve?
[04:53] <Transhumanist> Does it run on Linux?
[04:54] <Graymayre> lol lemme check
[04:54] <Transhumanist> (Natively)
[04:54] <Graymayre> http://support.eveonline.com/pages/kb/article.aspx?id=499
[04:54] <Ailos> so Installing Packages window vanished with no other prompts. did the driver install?
[04:55] <Graymayre> so i guess not
[04:55] <nalidixic> Tex_Nick: thanks
[04:55] <Transhumanist> Ailos: go back to the package in software centre and see if it says "installed" or not
[04:56] <Ailos> ah yes
[04:56] <Graymayre> IRC for linux so i can get back in here after im in it?
[04:56] <Ailos> its a hraphics driver. do i need a reboot?
[04:56] <Graymayre> just check it in apps or something?
[04:56] <Tex_Nick> nalidixic : those two channels are more specific to your question ... good luck :)
[04:57] <Graymayre> eh, ill find it, o7 guys
[05:01] <iBurley> Anybody here use TeamSpeak on Ubuntu?
[05:01] <iBurley> I'm having trouble setting my side buttons on my mouse as push to talk
[05:03] <machicola> nyone know of an app the adds a touchpad enable/disable hotkey?
[05:04] <machicola> i used to used to used touchpad-indicator which doesn't seem to be available anymore
[05:04] <machicola> there were two on ubuntu software center listing, first one doesn't have settings for a hotkey enable/disable &
[05:05] <machicola> second one is 325megs
[05:05] <machicola> which seems like a lot for that
[05:05] <dr_willis> or its for kde...
[05:05] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:06] <dr_willis> if you knew the cli commands to enable/disable you could make your own
[05:09] <Tex_Nick> machicola : have a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-touchpad ... i found a great link a week or so ago for that, trying to relocate it
[05:10] <rd4> I can't chane    the   /etc/NetworkManager/connection          so I can't change ip address throught vi  ? anybody can help me?
[05:10] <machicola> wow, awesome link... thanks Tex_Nick
[05:11] <machicola> did not know about xinput list
[05:11] <Ailos> after installing my nvidia driver, window borders and text is almost twice as big, but resolution is correct. How do i change it?
[05:13] <Tex_Nick> machicola : you're welcome ... hope it helps ... if not, there was a more specific link i found a while back
[05:14] <Ailos> although, maybe its for the best
[05:14] <Ailos> is there a way to check if my video driver is properly installed?
[05:15] <MeanEYE> Ailos: Starting nvidia-settings will tell you if nvidia driver is being used.
[05:15] <Gyro54> What is wrong with this as an entry in fstab - //192.168.1.2/kkcdata /mnt/p_drive cifs Kevin,password=new,iocharset=utf8,mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[05:16] <MeanEYE> Ailos: Also, lsmod | grep nvidia should show if driver is loaded by kernel.
[05:16] <Ailos> nvidia x server settings?
[05:16] <MeanEYE> Ailos: that's the command name: nvidia-settings. Basically it's nVidia's control panel.
[05:16] <Ailos> and running that command outputs:
[05:16] <Ailos> nvidia              10236405  42
[05:17] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: What's the problem?
[05:17] <Ailos> alright
[05:17] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: you are probably missing user=Kevin instead of just Kevin.
[05:17] <Gyro54> MeanEYE:  This works manually  - sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.2/kkcdata /mnt/p_drive -o username=Kevin,password=new
[05:18] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: Is that all it is?
[05:18] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: Am not sure. Check /var/log/error.log. You should be able to get more info from there.
[05:19] <MeanEYE> Sorry /var/log/syslog
[05:19] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: Thanks for your help.  That will be problem.
[05:20] <DJJeff> gpio_ich: failed to claim resource 0 http://pastie.org/5618577 should I be worried about this?
[05:20] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: Did that fixed it?
[05:24] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: That works fine. Thanks for that. Sometimes it is the most simple things
[05:25] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: ... Yeah. Also -o part should be identical to what comes after cifs. :)
[05:28] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: I will add that to the line. Thanks
[05:28] <Fonsie> can anybody help me, im trying to install ubuntu to portable usb hdd to boot from to install to windows but wont let me
[05:29] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: no need. Am just explaining how fstab works.
[05:29] <Fonsie> im trying to use unetbootin and keeps saying there isnt a flash drive there
[05:29] <Fonsie> when there is
[05:29] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: unetbootin requires super user. Did you run it with sudo?
[05:29] <Fonsie> huh?
[05:30] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: Oh, sorry. From which OS are you running unetbootin?
[05:30] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: OK
[05:30] <Fonsie> windows 7
[05:31] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: You need to reformat your USB stick to FAT32. Currently it's probably NTFS.
[05:32] <Fonsie> already did that
[05:34] <MeanEYE> Hm, that's strange.
[05:35] <MeanEYE> So you are sure USB is FAT32?
[05:36] <Fonsie> it was ntfs and it told me to make sure it was formatted to fat32 so i did and it still isnt showing up
[05:37] <MeanEYE> You did remove and connect drive again right. Sorry for asking stupid questions, it just seems strange.
[05:37] <Fonsie> i actually had to reformat it on a different pc because the driver to reformat it to fat32 only runs on xp
[05:37] <Fonsie> so yes
[05:38] <MeanEYE> Hm, that's even stranger. Win7 has FAT32 support as most memory cards use that file system.
[05:39] <MeanEYE> Am stumped here. Perhaps someone else has some ideas.
[05:41] <aged> please can someone suggest where i can find a downlaod that will fit on cd thanks
[05:41] <dr_willis> aged:  try  lubuntu, or 12.04 ubuntu
[05:41] <dr_willis> i think lubuntu 12.10 fits on cd
[05:41] <Fonsie> what is another program to install to usb besides unetbootin?
[05:42] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  dozen at the pendrivelinux site
[05:42] <aged> wanted to try the new version out before buying a new laptop as it will influence decsion#
[05:42] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  or use an imageing tool to image the iso straight to the  usb
[05:42] <Aldryk> Can anyone help with re-installing grub after cloning ubuntu partition from one (dying) machine to another?
[05:43] <madc|SPYnX> i'm using Ubuntu 12.10 what is the repository of gns3 so i can download the latest version
[05:43] <dr_willis> Aldryk:  a live cd and thet boot-repair tool would be what i would try first
[05:43] <dr_willis> !ppa
[05:43] <Aldryk> So, Rescutax is not a good option?
[05:44] <dr_willis> Aldryk:  no idea.
[05:44] <dr_willis> never heard of it
[05:44] <Aldryk> Whats the boot-repair tool then?
[05:44] <dr_willis> its  in the repos and mentioned at the.....
[05:44] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[05:44] <Aldryk> I think its from the same source as "Super-Grub Disk"
[05:44] <xangua> !info gns3 | madc|SPYnX
[05:45] <Amanda2013> i'm finally rich
[05:45] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Glad to hear that.
[05:45] <aged> got old laptop here and it has cd only and wanted to try it out before igave mr gates some money for windows eight  rrather spend it on a laptop without microsoft rubbish
[05:45] <Amanda2013> but on to da shit what is get-apt for adobe flash
[05:45] <dr_willis> windows 8 on an old laptop? thats sort of scary
[05:46] <aged> do they do a lite version of 12/10
[05:46] <MeanEYE> aged: What seems to be the problem?
[05:46] <Amanda2013> i just ditched win 7 45 mins ago
[05:46] <Amanda2013> lol
[05:46] <Amanda2013> for 12.04
[05:47] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Google Chrome comes with flash, so you don't need to install it separately. If you are Firefox fan, then you need to install flashplugin-downloader.
[05:47] <aged> meaneye 12 10 doesnt fit on a cd
[05:48] <dr_willis> aged:  lubuntu 12.10 might. then you install ubuntu-desktop package
[05:48] <MeanEYE> aged: It will fit on DVD, or USB drive.
[05:48] <aged> yep but dont have any of them
[05:50] <Amanda2013> i'm smoking on da gas like citgo
[05:50] <aged> just wondered if there was a lite version of it
[05:50] <dr_willis> aged:  none ive seen
[05:51] <aged> so it look like the choice is windows xp then
[05:51] <tonyr2k8> aged, does your laptop currently have windows on it?
[05:51] <dr_willis> aged:  or...... 3rd time...    lubuntu 12.10 might. then you install ubuntu-desktop package
[05:52] <dr_willis> or just use 12.04   because an old laptop might not support pae either.
[05:52] <Aldryk> I'm downloading the boot-repair disk now..any idea if it'll work on a system where the grub configuration doesn't exist at all?
[05:52] <aged> no itwas given to me to get me started to learn about pcs at freinds at moment he said try this irc thingy and ask
[05:52] <MeanEYE> aged: Ubuntu 12.04 is CD sized. You can upgrade to 12.10 after you install it.
[05:53] <Aldryk> That is, the grub (stage 2?) cofiguration was for the old machine with its old HDD, now the ubuntu partition is installed to an altogether different partition on a different disk.
[05:53] <dr_willis> aged:  whatas your cpu on the thing, how old is it?
[05:54] <Fonsie> what should i set my persistent file size to?
[05:54] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: You don't need it if you don't plan on running Ubuntu from USB
[05:54] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  if you just want to install, you dont need one.
[05:54] <Amanda2013> how to install python
[05:54] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Python is already installed.
[05:54] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  its installed by default
[05:54] <Amanda2013> i need 2.7
[05:55] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: it is.
[05:55] <Amanda2013> ok
[05:55] <dr_willis> !info python
[05:55] <aged> think it a 1.5 celeron with 2gig of memory and 20gig hard drive 14 inch screen toshiba
[05:55] <liam> I ran sudo fsck.hfsplus -f on an external hdd and now it wont mount at all. Any ideas what this has done and how to fix it?
[05:55] <Amanda2013> what about GNU Make
[05:55] <dr_willis> aged:  if it dosent support pae in hardware. then you will need to use 12.04
[05:55] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  its in the repos
[05:56] <Amanda2013> no idea about repos such a n00b
[05:56] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: that means, open software center and search. :D Simple as that. It's available through few clicks.
[05:56] <Amanda2013> i try
[05:57] <dr_willis> !manual | Amanda2013
[05:58] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: if you need make... just run "sudo apt-get install make"
[05:58] <Amanda2013> ty again
[05:59] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: you are welcome. Repositories are software libraries Linux uses to install software. So you can just say what you need and chances are it's there.
[05:59] <ErdMutter> Is there a IRC channel for Ubuntu Desktop installed onto the Nexus 7?
[05:59] <aged> ok thinkl i will have to look at other makes and see what one i feel i can learn and isnt to difficult for a complete novice
[06:00] <MeanEYE> aged: You can download Ubuntu 12.04 here -> http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[06:00] <Amanda2013> does it have jdk be dfalut
[06:00] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: It's not installed by default, but OpenJDK is available. Versions 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8
[06:01] <dr_willis> ErdMutter:  #ubuntu-arm  perhaps
[06:01] <Amanda2013> i need JDK 6 for building android
[06:01] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: You are using Eclipse?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> don't have it yet
[06:02] <MeanEYE> Will you use it?
[06:02] <foxy999> I can't set a password on an archive with archive manager in ubuntu, does anyone know any good software to do this?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> idk might have to
[06:02] <dr_willis> foxy999:  you could use the command line.
[06:02] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Did you develop for Android so far?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> no
[06:02] <foxy999> dr_willis. what program?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> just trying to build android x86
[06:02] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: then my advice is to use Eclipse. It helps a lot.
[06:03] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Is there are reason why you would build the whole android?
[06:03] <Amanda2013> to add ethernet support into 4.0.4
[06:03] <dr_willis> foxy999:  zip can do it.  or just encrypt the arcchive afterwards with pgp or somthing
[06:05] <Amanda2013> $ sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[06:05] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[06:05] <Amanda2013> will that work
[06:06] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: no. It's Lucid. Old version of Ubuntu.
[06:06] <Amanda2013> ah
[06:06] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: You can build with OpenJDK, my advice check with Google... for example http://blog.markloiseau.com/2012/07/how-to-compile-android-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:06] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: you will need build-essential package to be installed. As that's compilers and other things.
[06:07] <jm3665> Hi everybody! ... I need some help :S
[06:07] <MeanEYE> jm3665: Shoot!
[06:07] <Amanda2013> needs a line of coke
[06:07] <foxy999> dr_willis, it still didn't work..
[06:07] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: that doesn't help with ethernet drivers.
[06:07] <foxy999> dr_willis, it accepts a password but doesn't prompt for one when I extract the files
[06:08] <dr_willis> i dont use the tools. so no idea foxy999
[06:08] <foxy999> I can't set a password on an archive with archive manager in ubuntu, does anyone know any good software to do this?
[06:08] <MeanEYE> foxy999: which archive?
[06:09] <foxy999> MeanEYE, .zip
[06:09] <Amanda2013> "but I found (later in the build process) that Android really needs to be built by Sun’s Java SDK MeanEYE ya link it says that at top
[06:09] <jm3665> I don't know why I can't install webapps on my ubuntu 12.04 :S
[06:10] <Amanda2013> found it nvm
[06:10] <dulio> jm3665, webapp?
[06:10] <MeanEYE> foxy999: Syntax is zip -P password -r archive.zip files
[06:10] <Amanda2013> ok still stuck
[06:11] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Hm, I've never built one. But I can help. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[06:11] <MeanEYE> There's a document explaining how to install Oracle JDK
[06:11] <Tex_Nick> foxxy999 : for a tarball encryped file, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1071398
[06:16] <aged> so ubuntu has now joined the club as bloat ware
[06:16] <MeanEYE> Depends what you consider bloatware :D
[06:17] <Tex_Nick> aged : it's only as bloated as you make it ;-)
[06:19] <komputes> aged: plus computers are way more powerful now, and theres always the choise to use gnome fallback, or xfce, lxde
[06:28] <Amanda2013> how do i add PATH=~/bin:$PATH to my path
[06:30] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  just make the bin dir, log out/back in
[06:31] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  it will auto do that
[06:31] <dr_willis> its a check in the .bashrc i belive
[06:31] <Amanda2013> wait i need /usr/bin
[06:31] <dr_willis>      /usr/bin is notmally in the path anyway
[06:32] <Amanda2013> how do i find .bashrc
[06:32] <dr_willis>  its in your home dir
[06:32] <Amanda2013> how do i show hidden files
[06:33] <IdleOne> ctrl+h
[06:33] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : the dot preceding it means it's a hidden file though
[06:33] <dr_willis> i think you are going to have a lot of learning to do befor you recompile android....
[06:33] <dr_willis>  ls -a
[06:33] <dr_willis> a bash tutorial may be worth  reading soon.
[06:33] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i get a unable to update .ICEauthority at boot, any suggestions
[06:34] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  delete/rename it? ;)
[06:34] <dr_willis> ive seen .Xauthority get messed up.  but not sure what .ICEzuthority does
[06:36] <Amanda2013> ./usr/bin path not in .bashrc
[06:36] <dr_willis>   its in the default path i thought.
[06:36] <dr_willis>   echo $PATH
[06:37] <dr_willis>   and look
[06:37] <Amanda2013> weed@weed-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ echo $PATH /home/weed/bin:/home/weed/bin:
[06:38] <dr_willis> messed up your path.. open a new terminal
[06:38] <dr_willis> and try it there
[06:38] <Amanda2013> i did it  there
[06:38] <Amanda2013> echo $ path thingy
[06:39] <dr_willis> youve done somthing to change your path
[06:39] <dr_willis> thats not a system default path
[06:39] <Amanda2013> no just installed 2day
[06:39] <dr_willis> youve done somthing to change your path.....
[06:39] <Amanda2013> have not fucked with .bashrc
[06:39] <IdleOne> Amanda2013: No swearing in here please
[06:40] <dr_willis> dosent matter.. youve done somthing to your  path.     try a 'xterm -ls' perhaps and see what the path is there
[06:40] <cache_za> dont think bashrc was created on my install until i created it
[06:40] <dr_willis> or its .profile
[06:40] <dr_willis> im not on ubuntu to check
[06:41] <Amanda2013> not there ;(
[06:41] <dr_willis>   .profile, .bashrc and .bash_profile i recall
[06:42] <dr_willis> if you just do a 'export PATH=.......' incorectly it will goof up the path for that shell
[06:42] <dr_willis> and child processes
[06:42] <Amanda2013> is this right PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[06:42] <dr_willis> if you have not edited any  files, you should be able to log out/back in and get back to defaults
[06:43] <dr_willis> IF you hadent changed path befor that
[06:43] <dr_willis> but it looks like you did
[06:43] <Amanda2013> nah
[06:43] <Amanda2013> leeme reboot
[06:43] <dr_willis> just log out/back in
[06:44] <jm3665> Sorry, I'm back with this question :S
[06:44] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:44] <jm3665> I just tried several times to install this new feature ... webapps on my ubuntu 12.04 ... but I can't
[06:45] <jm3665> Can anyone give me some help ?
[06:45] <dr_willis> jm3665:  its a flakey feature in 12.04 and even in 12.10 i find it flakey
[06:45] <dr_willis> a neat idea that just dosent work well
[06:46] <dr_willis> then i realized how little it did when it did work
[06:46] <dr_willis> id rather the sites add a entry to the browser quicklists
[06:47] <jestan> lw346
[06:49] <cache_za> how do the webapps work anyway? a js app that opens in a dumbed down browser instance?
[06:49] <dr_willis> its like a browser window with no menu items last i tried it
[06:49] <Amanda2013> now what
[06:50] <jm3665> :) ... ok ... Just as I thought but ... I need to ask :D
[06:51] <c00kee> trying to run virtualbox on chrubuntu but im getting error message about linux kernel
[06:51] <dr_willis> chrubuntu? never heard of it.
[06:51] <c00kee> chromebook version of ubuntu
[06:51] <dr_willis> best to see their support forums/site/channel then
[06:51] <jm3665> thanks dr_willis
[06:52] <c00kee> need help locating it
[06:52] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : still working on the path deal ? ... echo $PATH ... is it there now
[06:53] <dr_willis> there is a chrom-os pppackage thing for ubuntu ;)
[06:53] <Amanda2013>   /home/weed/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[06:53] <dr_willis> that looks more normal
[06:54] <dr_willis> never noticed lightdm in there befor
[06:54] <Amanda2013> stillmissing /usr
[06:54] <dr_willis> you have /usr/bin   just like you asked
[06:55] <Amanda2013> oh i do dang
[06:55] <dr_willis> and your users home/bin
[07:00] <Amanda2013> any body willing to teamview
[07:00] <Amanda2013> i still hava install
[07:02] <nwp> 05k7217
[07:02] <nwp> oops
[07:03] <nwp> !
[07:05] <nwp> I hate UIs that switch active input element on you while you're typing...
[07:05] <nwp> or the destination of that input
[07:09] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  whats the actual support question now?
[07:10] <Amanda2013> making a working dir
[07:10] <dr_willis> mkdir MyWorkingDir
[07:10] <Amanda2013> afk brb
[07:11] <Amanda2013> eh i don't know which folder to use or how to type ex:/1/2/3/4
[07:12] <dr_willis> i have no idea whay you are going on about
[07:13] <Amanda2013> coz i am dumb
[07:13] <Amanda2013> retard
[07:14]  * dr_willis was thinking 'vague'
[07:14] <Amanda2013> Thinking or communicating in an unfocused or imprecise way: "he had been vague about his activities"
[07:15] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : dr_willis was instructing you how to create your working directory ... see if this helps you in your ubuntu exploits ... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-linux-shell-commands-quick-reference/
[07:15] <dr_willis> the ubuntu manual. and a bash tutorial or 3 ... would be a good starting point
[07:18] <susundberg> Good morning
[07:19] <CookieM> susundberg: hello
[07:22] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : could i recommend some tutorials from youTube ... http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL465C6C735CEB7CBD
[07:23] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : that guy has some pretty good introductory linux tutorials ... link i provided is about 50 bash tuts
[07:26] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : and hey you're not dumb ... you're learning ... as we all should be :-)
[07:32] <Etyneo> Anyone know if there's a way to switch between active GPUs in an Intel/ATI hybrid setup yet?
[07:33] <b3nj> help
[07:33] <b3nj> help me
[07:34] <b3nj> i can't install lubuntu
[07:34] <b3nj> when i choose install lubuntu in the menu screen just turns off and pc freezes
[07:36] <b3nj> i can not install lubuntu, when i choose "install lubuntu" screen turns off and machine freezes
[07:37] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : just remembered ... there is a girl on Hak5 that is learning linux ... as she learns she does a tutorial on what she has learned ... http://www.hak5.org
[07:38] <Nevin> Hello, anyone here that could help me for a moment?
[07:40] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ask your question
[07:42] <Nevin> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10. My system uses a UEFI bios, so I run the UEFI version from the USB stick. When I choose to install from the GNU GRUB interface, the screen changes to a blank black screen with a blinking cursor that eventually freezes up.
[07:43] <elfer> geh
[07:44] <laze1989> Etyneo: Depends. If you are using the OSS radeon drivers - only if you are having a muxed system. This means, you will have an option in your BIOS to change the active graphics card. If you have a muxless system, the OSS radeon drivers are not capable of switching, yet. If prime support majors, it will be available. But nevertheless, the drivers are not that good.
[07:44] <raj> how do I test if glib notifications are working?
[07:44] <Amanda2013> would anyone in here be willing to teamview meh
[07:45] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : is that on a windows 8 box that you want to dual boot
[07:45] <laze1989> Etyneo: If you are using fglrx (proprietary AMD drivers) you cannot use them with Ubuntu 12.10 out of the box (they are incompatible to Xorg 1.13, whats used in Ubuntu 12.10). But they are capable of switchting.
[07:45] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  teqmview for what reason?
[07:46] <Tex_Nick> !uefi | Nevin
[07:46] <Nevin> No, it is a custom PC. I have Windows 7 running on it.
[07:46] <Amanda2013> i cant get a working dir made correctly
[07:46] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  a working directory for what?
[07:46] <Etyneo> Actually, I've been experimenting with 12.04.1.
[07:47] <Amanda2013> "Create an empty directory to hold your working files."
[07:47] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  right click, make new direcory/folder.. or use the mkdir command
[07:47] <Etyneo> Also, its a muxless system.
[07:47] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  'mkdir myworkdir'
[07:47] <kristof> Pardon me, esteemed gentlemen. Is there a command line utility I can use for controlling the master volume on pulseaudio?
[07:47] <kristof> I need a command I can map to a key.
[07:48] <Nevin> Ubottu: I have been following the steps in the URL that you linked. The GNU GRUB interface freezes after choosing to install Ubuntu shortly after this screen. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[07:48] <laze1989> Etyneo: Then this thread will do the job for you (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450).
[07:48] <SirClueless> hi all, I am having trouble with the fglrx driver
[07:48] <rd4> I want to know how to use sudo -S options,who knows?
[07:48] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i'm running 12.10 on a custom build ... no problems here ... but the issue is hardware specific
[07:48] <kristof> Anyone?
[07:48] <KaiSforza> seriously, we're looking for pulse command line control.
[07:48] <kristof> Something like amixer, but amixer doesn't actually work with pulseaudio, I've noticed.
[07:49] <dr_willis> KaiSforza:   pavmixer perhaps or related tools
[07:49] <SirClueless> I cannot manage to get into Unity 3D, and unity_support_test tells me GLX is missing
[07:49] <kristof> dr_willis: Has to be noninteractive.
[07:49] <KaiSforza> dr_willis: wee kristof's comment.
[07:49] <KaiSforza> s/wee/see
[07:49] <dr_willis> kristof:  it may have cli commands in the same package
[07:49] <Etyneo> I was looking at that thread and can't use the OP as the packages he references are no longer available.
[07:49] <dr_willis> or cli options
[07:50] <Etyneo> It's Lao about 1 year old...
[07:50] <KaiSforza> dr_willis: doesn't amixer (alsa-tools, iirc) interface with alsa, not pulse?
[07:50] <dr_willis> isent there the xf86_volumeup/volumedown keys bound to somthing
[07:50] <Etyneo> Also... Darn autocorrect...
[07:50] <kristof> KaiSforza: According to the Ubuntu wiki, amixer.sh works.
[07:50] <KaiSforza> dr_willis: not using a DE.
[07:50] <KaiSforza> kristof: hmm.
[07:51] <Amanda2013> done
[07:51] <kristof> dr_willis: Can you check what they're bound to in your case?
[07:51] <Amanda2013> just found a back door
[07:51] <dr_willis> kristof:  im on my phone  ;)
[07:51] <Nevin> Tex_Nick: How did the GRUB interface respond when you chose to install Ubuntu 12.10? (Assuming you are also using a UEFI bios.)
[07:51] <kristof> dr_willis: Aaaah. I wish I had IRC on my phone, but alas, I use a shitberry.
[07:52] <kristof> Thank you anyway!
[07:52] <SirClueless> does anyone have any knowledge of fglrx, or supporting hybrid graphics in Ubuntu?
[07:52] <laze1989> Etyneo: You just need to download the newer drivers from amd http://support.amd.com/de/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[07:52] <SirClueless> because I can't even get 3D acceleration on my intel integrated card
[07:52] <dr_willis> hybrid is very much a 'foggy' area. sadly
[07:53] <SirClueless> dr_willis: I'd be happy to just disable the discrete card entirely
[07:53] <Ship> whats the general discussion channel
[07:53] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i'm using an AMD ECS MoBo with UEFI, the MoBo was released from ECS about 8 month ago ... i had no problems at all
[07:53] <dr_willis> SirClueless:  that might be a setting in the bios
[07:53] <SirClueless> dr_willis: but as it is, I don't even get any 3D acceleration support
[07:53] <SirClueless> dr_willis: there isn't, my laptop is running AMD's version of this
[07:54] <dr_willis> i have no experience with hybrid gfx stuff.. dont plan on buying a laptop with it anytime soon either.
[07:54] <laze1989> Etyneo: Or use fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle (or fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdccle-updates). fglrx should be catalyst 12.4, dunno about updates packages).
[07:54] <laze1989> SirClueless: What is your graphics set up? Is it Intelel/AMD hybrid?
[07:54] <SirClueless> dr_willis: it's all a mess, I just want a basic laptop when I boot into Ubuntu
[07:55] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : the problem you're experiencing in not uncommon though ... the linux development team is working on a fix fast & hard
[07:55] <SirClueless> laze1989: yes, intel HD3000 and Radeon 7970M
[07:55] <laze1989> SirClueless: Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450. First post, step 2 " Enabling, fixing the bug for direct rendering on the integrated card"
[07:56] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : the issue is commonly reffered to as a "secure boot" issue
[07:56] <SirClueless> laze1989: from that link: "Warning: Works only for muxless systems."
[07:56] <SirClueless> laze1989: which I think is how mine is set up
[07:56] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Oh ok. I have a ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 and I've been reading around that some people have gotten it to work fine for them, but it's different for me.
[07:57] <laze1989> SirClueless: Your system uses AMDs PowerXPress 4.0 or higher, which is muxless
[07:57] <SirClueless> laze1989: alright, I will give that a try, thanks for the pointer
[07:59] <laze1989> SirClueless: Hope you have installed fglrx already. If you are using Ubuntu 12.10, its not compatible with Xorg 1.13.
[08:00] <SirClueless> laze1989: I installed fglrx-updates on 12.04
[08:00] <laze1989> SirClueless: Then all will be fine.
[08:00] <madc|SPYnX> what is the sources.list of gns3 latest version in ubuntu12.10
[08:00] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  if you need the latest. look for a Ppa for it
[08:01] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  or use source.
[08:01] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : hey i just scrolled up to see your original post ... i installed 12.10 64 bit with a live sc
[08:01] <raj> notifications aren't working
[08:01] <Etyneo> I'll give fglrx-updates a try once I get back to my laptop...at work now, using my Thunderbolt...
[08:01] <raj> how can I check if glib notifications are working?
[08:02] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i didn't bother with the uefi stuff
[08:02] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : What is the live sc mean? I'm still quite new to this. :)
[08:03] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : sorry, typo ... i meant cd
[08:03]  * Etyneo will never buy a laptop with a hybrid gfx setup again...and never again an HP.
[08:03] <madc|SPYnX> dr_willis, what is PPA?
[08:04] <Tex_Nick> Nevin ... you might see if your BIOS has a setting to disable "Secure Boot"
[08:04] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I din't think it was possible to fit all of 12.10 on a CD. I do have some DVD's, would those make a difference? I figured the USB would be the same.
[08:05] <dr_willis> !ppa | madc|SPYnX
[08:05] <laze1989> Etyneo: Well. At the end it isnt soo bad. There are other things more worse.
[08:05] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : you're right it was a DVD ... i'm just used to the old CD term
[08:06] <SirClueless> laze1989: should I remove fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates before the dkpg step?
[08:06] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I built my system, I wouldn't see why secure boot would be enabled. I thought that was somthing that came with retail OEM systems pre-installed with Windows8.
[08:07] <laze1989> SirClueless: If you have them already installed, you can leave that step and just do the 2nd step.
[08:07] <DrCode> hi all
[08:07] <DrCode> I am tying to make dd image from ext4, I can't mount it with -o loop, any idea?
[08:07] <Etyneo> I'm guessing that English isn't laze1989's first language...
[08:07] <laze1989> Etyneo: No. :)
[08:07] <SirClueless> laze1989: ooooh, so I just compiled unnecessarily
[08:07] <Wiz_KeeD> hello everyone
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> there's a server that i want to get ssh access to and it has restricted access per/ip
[08:08] <madc|SPYnX> !ppa | madc|SPYnX
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> so not having a dynamic ip i thought i can ssh to a server with a static ip and from thhat ssh to the server i need
[08:08] <DrCode> this is my part:                          Primary   Free Space                           1.05*
[08:08] <DrCode>     sda1        Boot        Primary   ext4
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it just says wiz@dev:~$ ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[08:08] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i can't really don't know ... i haven' built a windoze box in a couple years now ... i've been seeing a lot of problems relating to secure boot lately though
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> any ideeas? :(
[08:09] <madc|SPYnX> dr_willis, how to find ppa for gns3
[08:09] <amtron> #gaia
[08:09] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  use that ppa search url the bot gave.
[08:09] <Etyneo> Any way around secure boot for those who want new hardware sans windows 8?
[08:10] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I'll burn the ISO file to one of my spare DVD's and boot that up in UEFI. I read that 12.10 has support for UEFI, but it made it appear so easy. x)
[08:10] <SirClueless> laze1989: ok, thanks for the guidance, rebooting now to check if it worked
[08:10] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : what's your MoBo
[08:10] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : ASRock Z77 Extreme4
[08:10] <madc|SPYnX> dr_willis, what is the risk of using this ppa
[08:11] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone please?
[08:11] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  no idea.  they are made by normal users..   and unsupported
[08:11] <dr_willis> that goes for any ppa
[08:12] <madc|SPYnX> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/whoopie79/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[08:12] <madc|SPYnX> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/whoopie79/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[08:12] <Tex_Nick> Nevin ... might be difference between amd & intel platform
[08:12] <madc|SPYnX> this goes to my sources.list right
[08:13] <Etyneo> Glad I got my laptop before Win8 and the secure boot bull...
[08:13] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  no.. read the site and guide.. you normally done edit your sources.list these days
[08:13] <dr_willis> normally dont....
[08:13] <SirClueless> laze1989: hmmm, no luck, I followed those steps, still no 3D acceleration
[08:13] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : burn your ISO to DVD ... do a hash check first though ... try that
[08:14] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : My ISO is named "ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64." Does the amd64 means that it was built for AMD x64 bit processors and not Intel?
[08:14] <dr_willis> 64bit is for both
[08:14] <Etyneo> No
[08:14] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : YES ;-)
[08:15] <SirClueless> laze1989: worth mentioning? "sudo aticonfig --initial -f" reports "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[08:15] <Etyneo> there were at least 2 forms of 64 bit architechture.
[08:15] <dr_willis> and the amd64 form is used by intel
[08:15] <Etyneo> Intel had one that flopped.
[08:15] <dr_willis> for the common desktop cpus
[08:16] <laze1989> SirClueless: Yea, thats worth mentioning.
[08:16] <Etyneo> then and came out with a better one that Intel adopted.
[08:16] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : My I had no idea... Is there a Intel 12.10 version?
[08:16] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : it's an x86 platform
[08:16] <Etyneo> amd...darn autocorrext
[08:16] <dr_willis> Nevin:  us 64bit works for both
[08:16] <SirClueless> laze1989: any idea what is going on?
[08:17] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : the x86 archetucture is all the same ...
[08:17] <dr_willis> Nevin:  theres an obscure/rare intel 64bit variant that you most likely will never see. ;)
[08:17] <dr_willis> common intel 64bit cpus are using amd64 extentions
[08:17] <SirClueless> laze1989: the 7970M is newer than any cards on the compatibility list at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware
[08:17] <laze1989> SirClueless: Just googled the same result
[08:18] <Etyneo> My HP had one like that.
[08:18] <raj> how can I check if glib notifications are working?
[08:18] <Nevin> Tex_Nick & dr_willis : Ok, so maybe I should be using the x86 version instead of the amd64?
[08:18] <SirClueless> laze1989: actually, scratch that, it's actually covered by "All RadeonHD 7000-series (aka Southern Islands) chips" in the "Catalyst only" section
[08:18] <dr_willis> Nevin:  i doubt it... i said  common 64bit intel cpus use amd64...
[08:18] <laze1989> SirClueless: But there should be catalyst 13.1 coming this month (propably). Maybe there is support for that. Didnt knew that it is too new, sorry.
[08:18] <SirClueless> though none of them list xxxxM variants
[08:18] <Etyneo> Turns out it was a 6700M series that had been overclocked and relabeled.
[08:19] <SirClueless> laze1989: is there any way to just blacklist/disable the whole adapter?
[08:19] <dr_willis> Nevin:  its just called amd64 from old habbit
[08:19] <SirClueless> and make the computer appear to only have an Intel HD3000?
[08:19] <SirClueless> because that would be fine, I don't plan on playing intense games or anything
[08:19] <roryy> Hi - is SecureBoot supported on Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit as well as 64-bit?  Googling suggests 64-bit only, but I just want to test a live boot case on a potential new laptop - will the 32-bit version be OK for that?
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone please help with ssh multihop? i'm reading this but it isn't of much help http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[08:20] <Nevin> dr_willis : Oh ok. Well the disc burn is finished. I will try it out, hopefully it works.
[08:20] <laze1989> SirClueless: Well. There was something called acpi_shutdown. But I think it is not developed anymore. But you have to be aware, that this can cause problems.
[08:21] <Etyneo> SirClueless: You can do that. However, both GPUs will remain powered and drawing power, even though only one is in use.
[08:21] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : to the best of my knowledge dr_willis is right there ... amd64, is a standard x86 cpu archetucture build
[08:22] <Tex_Nick> Neniv ... give me a few minutes ... let me look at that
[08:22] <Etyneo> Nevin, unless you are using s
[08:22] <SirClueless> Etyneo: even though the ATI card is designed to be powered down when not in use?
[08:23] <Etyneo> Older hardware, amd64 will work for you if you have 64 bit hardware.
[08:23] <raj> how can I check if glib notifications are working?
[08:23]  * dr_willis dosent know what 'glib' notifications are
[08:23] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : hey if the burn is complete ... give it a try
[08:23] <dr_willis> try sending one. ;)
[08:23] <Casey> Hey guys. I am really frustrated at this point. I have been a long time Ubuntu user and I recently bought a new Windows 7 machine and for the life of me, I cannot get it to dual boot. To put it in a nutshell, I have installed Windows 7, then used a flash drive to install Ubuntu. Installation reports no errors, however, when I restart, grub does not appear. I have tried Easy BCD, Ubuntu secure remix, grub rescue tool, etc. No matter what I
[08:23] <Casey> do, grub will not install. At the most, I got a grub rescue menu but not able to ever boot into the OS. I am using 12.10 btw. Does anyone have any ideas?
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[08:24] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : it's been a long time since i've seen a software install smoke the hardware ;-)
[08:24] <Etyneo> SirClueless: Yes. There US a software.switch under Windize to turn it off normally. However, Linux support ofthese sorts of hybrid card is lacking
[08:24] <dr_willis> Casey:  try a live cd and the boot-repair tool?
[08:24] <Casey> tried both
[08:25] <Casey> dr_willis
[08:25] <dr_willis> it has a log/error message feature i recall that would help people in here help you
[08:25] <Casey> dr_willis I wish I could access it.
[08:26] <Casey> I've literally no joke, installed 12.10 over 12 times under all kinds of partitioning schemes and boot sequences. None give me a difference.
[08:26] <Casey> The only thing I can think of is the EFI and UEFI boot sequences that have come out recently.
[08:26] <dr_willis> yinstall to a usb, put grub on usb.. see if that works
[08:26] <Etyneo> Also, pardon typo errors... This phone's autocorrect is annoying...
[08:27] <Casey> could you explain what you mean dr_willis
[08:27] <dr_willis> Casey:  use a live-usb. to do a full install to a second usb flash drive 8gb+...  see if it boots from that
[08:28] <dr_willis> its possible booting that usb may show the install on the hd also. and boot it
[08:28] <pkh> I'm looking for some advice getting ubuntu onto a tablet. the end goal is to run opencpn (a navigation/chartplotter app for boating.)
[08:29] <Casey> I only have one USB. Do you know much about UEFI and EFI?
[08:29] <dr_willis> phk theres #ubuntu-arm
[08:29] <pkh> has anyone had any experience with the nexus 7?
[08:29] <dr_willis> Casey:  what little ive used it. has worked
[08:29] <pkh> dr_willis: will check there, cheers.
[08:30] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : So I booted from the DVD and selected to Install Ubuntu, and it brought me to the blank screen with a flashing cursor again. I let it wait and nothing happened. The computer froze up and I had to do a cold reset.
[08:31] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : are you seeing a lot of people here with UEFI problems ?
[08:31] <Casey> dr_willis arlighty thanks
[08:31] <vimerrrrrrr> Hi all! Could anyone help me with the boot without full network configuration prob? Tried alot of the ways on the internet but not working~
[08:32] <JJdfadf> hello
[08:32] <uaggen> hello!
[08:32] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ok you might need to do a nomodeset ... i think dr_willis might be able to help you with that
[08:32] <puteracomel> hey
[08:32] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[08:32] <raj> dr_willis, for example, when I change my volume using my keyboard
[08:33] <Tex_Nick> !nomodeset | Nevin
[08:33] <Nevin> Ok
[08:33] <dr_willis> raj:  thats the osd-notify, glib is somthing very different
[08:34] <raj> oh
[08:34] <raj> dr_willis, so how can I get that working again?
[08:34] <dr_willis> no idea.. guess it depends on what broke it. ;)
[08:34] <dr_willis> make a new user. see if it works for them. would be test  #1
[08:37] <raj> damn
[08:37] <raj> def didn't wanna do that
[08:39] <Etyneo> So, laze1989, I'm understanding that from a fresh 12.04.1 amd64 install all I need to do is go to the ATI site and get the latest Linux drivers. Is that correct?
[08:39] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : did you ever see a GRUB screen ?
[08:40] <dr_willis> raj:  its a test case...
[08:40] <dr_willis> raj:  if it works fora new user then that narrows doenn the problem area
[08:43] <raj> dr_willis, yeah, but I have a lot going on right now and my openbox is set up very specifically
[08:43] <laze1989> Etyneo: Yes.
[08:43] <raj> I don't wanna lose productivity messing with new users and whatnot
[08:44] <dr_willis> in the time youve taken. yooou could have allready made a user and tested it.
[08:44]  * bjj hi
[08:44] <bjj> hi
[08:44] <laze1989> Etyneo: The rest is described in the link I sent you.
[08:44] <dr_willis> or see if it affecta any other allready made users
[08:45] <Etyneo> Is it in the first post, or later in that thread?
[08:46] <bjj> hello
[08:46] <cfhowlett> bjj greetings
[08:46] <joey8> hi, does anyone know how to look at wifi traffic in/out from my router, thanx
[08:47] <laze1989> Etyneo: The first post.
[08:47] <dr_willis> some routers support a logging feature to monitor stuff. i forget the name. (snmpt?)
[08:48] <iceroot> joey8: have a look at the manual from your router. its specific to that device
[08:48] <joey8> iceroot➤ ah ok thanx
[08:48] <dr_willis> not really noticed that on newer routers
[08:49] <joey8> do you know if i am able to ssh into the router and run the sniff commands from there? or is that router-specific again
[08:49] <dr_willis> everything would be router sepecific
[08:51] <Nevin> dr.willis : So I did the nomodeset option in the livecd and it didn't change anything after running "Install Ubuntu." The blinking cursor froze up as well as my keyboard caps/numlock after 30 seconds.
[08:51] <dr_willis> Nevin:  so the install succeded/finished and on first boot it does that?
[08:51] <pino644> come funziona
[08:52] <dr_willis> capslock flashing = major kernel crashing.
[08:53] <Nevin> dr_willis : No it didn't have the chance to install Ubuntu. It freezes up. Caps lock didn't flash, the cursor on the console was flashing for awhile before everything froze up (including my keyboard.)
[08:57] <Nevin> dr_willis : Do you know the console with the flashing underscore cursor that comes up right after choosing "Install Ubuntu?" That's where It keeps freezing up at. Nothing loads or happens.
[08:57] <dr_willis> thats what 'nomodeset' normaly fixs.. unless the dvd/usb has errors
[08:57] <dr_willis> or theres some weird video card
[08:58] <Nevin> dr_willis : I'm using a GTX460 (Nvidia)
[08:58] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : there is a discussion on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038227 that talks about dvd problem & the intel panther point chipset
[09:00] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i'm not sure if the chipset problem also affects the usb interface ... seems it would
[09:01] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : are you sure you're ISO is clean ... have you done a hash compare ?
[09:02] <Wiz_KeeD> could someone please give me a hand with the ssh problem?
[09:02] <Nevin> How would I run a hash compare of the ISO? I think there was a option in uTorrent, but I've already removed it from the queue.
[09:03] <Gavilan2> Does any ubuntu phone already exist? What's the difference with the PC version?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Gavilan2: no.  that's why the annoucment was "2014" for first device
[09:04] <gac> Nevin: download MD5Sum from http://pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/ then drag the ISO onto the MD5sum executable, it'll give you a checksum that you should be able to verify against those posted on the ubuntu website
[09:05] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : www.ubuntu.com ... at top of page DOWNLOAD menu ... choose distro ... it will provide info on hash compare
[09:05] <Gavilan2> Does anyone know about intel smartphone? with x86 architecture?
[09:08] <vamadir> hello, some body know php? i have problem with opencart
[09:09] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Ok, so I ran the hash check that was linked to me from gac and got a 100% from the application.
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : you might want to download a new ISO from the ubuntu site ... you never know what you will get from a torrent site @,@
[09:10] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ok ISO is good then
[09:10] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : It was a torrent file link from the Ubuntu site. I also have the one downloaded straight from the site from the web browser.
[09:12] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : have you loaded any OS on this MoBo before ?
[09:13] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Yes, I have it in a dual boot with Windows 7, XP, and 8.
[09:13] <DrCode> hi all
[09:13] <DrCode> I am trying to make dd to my ubuntu os
[09:13] <DrCode> I am running dd on the same os that run
[09:14] <DrCode> I use dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sda.img
[09:14] <DrCode> when I try to run sudo fdisk -lu sda.img I got error
[09:14] <DrCode> the part is ext4
[09:14] <DrCode> any idea?
[09:15] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : you have win xp, 7 & 8 all on that box now ?
[09:15] <Gavilan2> Tex_Nick: I have Win 7, 8 and Ubuntu...
[09:15] <dr_willis> DrCode:  /mnt/ is what drive mounted there?
[09:15] <llutz> DrCode: you cannot copy an image of a DISK to a Partition, it won't fit a
[09:16] <DrCode> no
[09:16] <DrCode> its other hdd that I have
[09:16] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Yes, they are each in their own partitions. I have a unalocated space left open for the Ubuntu install.
[09:16] <DrCode> I have two hdd
[09:16] <llutz> DrCode: /mnt is a different disk, ok then
[09:16] <DrCode> sda and sdb
[09:16] <dr_willis> normally you image a partition to a file also. makes it easier to work with
[09:17] <DrCode> I can use dd to the same os that is running?
[09:17] <dr_willis> and sdb is bigger then sda i hope?
[09:17] <DrCode> or I will need to run bootcd and then dd it?
[09:17] <DrCode> yes
[09:17] <boichev> can anyone give me a tutorial how to make ubuntu boot from flash to ramdisk ? I want everything to be in ram :?
[09:17] <DrCode> it make image file
[09:17] <dr_willis> DrCode:  you can.. ive done it. but its not a great idea
[09:17] <DrCode> ok
[09:17] <Nevin> I was planning to make the partition for the Ubuntu install in the installer itself since Ubuntu uses a different file system apart from Windows NTFS.
[09:17] <dr_willis> DrCode:  a live cd would be a better idea
[09:17] <DrCode> so why I can't mount the new image?
[09:18] <DrCode> when I run sudo fdisk -lu sda.img I got error
[09:18] <DrCode> very strange
[09:18] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ok then windows 8 has hijacked the UEFI ... so to speak
[09:18] <dr_willis> DrCode:  you have to use offtets and other options to mount if the image is a whole disk. vs a partition
[09:18] <llutz> DrCode: what is the fdisk error?
[09:18] <DrCode> but how can I find offset?
[09:18] <dr_willis> id image it from a live cd for starters
[09:19] <dr_willis> and image the partition. not the whole disk
[09:19] <DrCode> I see, it mybe damge image?
[09:19] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : The secure boot isn't enabled though. During the boot of the GNU GRUB user interface a small line of words at the top left reads out, "Secure boot is disabled."
[09:19] <dr_willis> therees some guides on using mount with whole disk images
[09:19] <DrCode> I read to use sudo fdisk -lu sda.img
[09:19] <DrCode> but got error
[09:19] <DrCode> 1 min , I will paste it
[09:19] <DrCode> U mean to do dd if=/dev/sda1
[09:20] <DrCode> dr_willis, can U please paste link to good guide for ext4?
[09:21] <Tex_Nick> Niven : hey ... can you unplug the hard drive/s and boot up into the live DVD ?
[09:21] <llutz> DrCode: dd won't care about filesystems
[09:21] <DrCode> I see
[09:21] <DrCode> strange
[09:21] <jilebedev> I'm sorry for being irrelevant, but can anyone point me toward how I would go about finding out the pass used to encrypt a 7zip archive if I have both the archive and its extracted contents? (Again, sorry for being irrelevant, but I don't know how to search for this on google.)
[09:21] <Bor3y_> please my ubuntu it's very heavy
[09:21] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Sorry but I'm going to have to go. I'll probably be on later tomorrow though! Thanks for the help so far though.
[09:22] <Tex_Nick> ok
[09:22] <dr_willis> Bor3y_:  thaats a little vague as to what you mean
[09:22] <Bor3y_> my ubuntu very slow but my ram is more than 2 gb
[09:23] <dr_willis> and your other hardware Bor3y_ ?
[09:23] <Bor3y_> it's fine too my processor is 3.00 GHZ
[09:24] <dr_willis> and  your video?
[09:24]  * dr_willis feels like hes pulling teeth
[09:24] <Bor3y_> video working well
[09:24] <dr_willis> so whats slow?
[09:24] <Bor3y_> the using of ubuntu
[09:25] <BOX> hi all.
[09:25] <dr_willis> SOUNDS LIKE VIDEO IS NOT WORKING 'WELL' THEN
[09:25] <dr_willis> OOPS' ;)
[09:25] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <dr_willis> silly caps lock
[09:25] <cfhowlett> BOX: greetings
[09:25] <dr_willis> and  your video chipset is what exactly?
[09:26] <BOX> hi cfhowlett
[09:26] <cfhowlett> BOX: what's your ubuntu issue?
[09:26] <Bor3y_> dr_willis : can you check my pc plz ??
[09:26] <BOX> 12.04 refuses to install for me.
[09:27] <BOX> its an old amd 64 chip.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> BOX: details?  hardware?  and you DID perform the md5sum hashcheck to verify integrity of your iso?
[09:27] <BOX> the install disk works fine on my laptop.
[09:27] <jch2os> hey guys, I have a bit of an issue. had two 8.04 boxes, that I upgraded to 10.04 and then to 12.04.  when I went to 12.04 they don't boot
[09:27] <Bor3y_> and can i transfer my ubuntu to kubuntu ??
[09:27] <BOX> 64 bit too
[09:28] <jch2os> drops to busybox initramfs, if I hit exit it will boot on the one machine
[09:28] <jch2os> the other machine seems to be stuck not fully upgraded
[09:28] <cfhowlett> BOX: ok, that suggests the ISO is fine.  also suggests a hardware issue somewhere
[09:28] <jch2os> I've been working on this for hours, so any help would be great
[09:28] <cfhowlett> Bor3y_: transfer?  no.  If you prefer kubuntu, just install the kde desktop
[09:28] <BOX> maybe just because im not grat with linux.
[09:29] <BOX> installs okay, or so it would seem.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> BOX: one thing at a time.  How OLD is this computer your working with?
[09:29] <Bor3y_> how i can install KDE desktop ??
[09:29] <cfhowlett> Bor3y_: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop if I'm not mistaken
[09:29] <BOX> i would guess around 5 years old.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> BOX: ram?
[09:29] <optraz> is there a way to install opera browser easily other than going to the opera website, download deb package and isntasll ?
[09:29] <BOX> 2
[09:30] <cfhowlett> BOX: have your tried 32 bit ubuntu on this box?  2 gigs of ram seems low for a 64 bit machine ...
[09:30] <Bor3y_> it tell me unable to locate kde pachage
[09:30] <BOX> yes, 32 bit doesnt work either.  infact i havent made myself clear.
[09:31] <dr_willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <BOX> can get it to install but can not login.
[09:32] <dr_willis> BOX:  what does it do exactly after it installs?  just dosent boot?
[09:32] <BOX> the guest option does work though
[09:32] <dr_willis> thats very weird
[09:32] <BOX> nope, loads to then login screen.
[09:32] <dr_willis> a brand new install, guest works, a user dosent?
[09:33] <dr_willis> can your user login at the console?
[09:33] <BOX> main user account doesnt work, accepts psword but then flicks back to login screen. guest loads desktop,
[09:33] <Bor3y_> but how i can instgall it ?
[09:34] <dr_willis> BOX:  try the console. sounds like x/unity is crashing
[09:34] <BOX> and ctrl alt something to get a prompt allows me to login with the user / pass i setup.
[09:34] <dr_willis> Bor3y_:  install what?
[09:34] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 = the consoles
[09:35] <Bor3y_> i want to install kubuntu in my ubuntu
[09:35] <dr_willis> BOX:  2 things to try.  make a new user 'sudo adduser testuser' and see if they work
[09:35] <k1l> BOX: can you use pastebinit from konsole to show us the .xsession-errors?
[09:35] <jch2os> anyone know why I get dropped to a busybox prompy durning boot?  BusyBox v1.18. (Ubuntu 1:1.18.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash), if I type exit, the system boots
[09:35] <dr_willis> Bor3y_:  so install the kubuntu-desktop package like the bot mentioned
[09:36] <BOX> lost me there im afraid. how can i grab those error logs.
[09:36] <Bor3y_> can u tell me how i can install kubuntu-desktop ??
[09:36] <Arash> Hello
[09:36] <dr_willis> Bor3y_:  install the kubuntu-desktop package
[09:36] <Arash> I got a Problem with Ubuntu 12.04 , When VPN Disconnects , It takes a long time for GUI to show Its disconnected
[09:37] <dr_willis> use the software center or apt-get
[09:37] <Arash> so I have to wait like 10-20 seconds and reconnect again
[09:37] <Bor3y_> tell me how to insatll it plz ??
[09:37] <dr_willis> same as you install anything else
[09:38] <MacroMan> Hi, possible to boot straight into terminal upon boot? I've seen how to do this permanantly, but I only need once as I currently can't boot my machine
[09:38] <dr_willis> append the text option to the boot line MacroMan
[09:39] <BOX> Bor3y_,  why cant you install it?  or you just starting to learn?  if so look at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:39] <dr_willis> MacroMan:    quiet text splash
[09:39] <MacroMan> dr_willis, How do I do that?
[09:39] <dr_willis> MacroMan:  at the  grub menu. its edit featuuure
[09:39] <dr_willis> !text
[09:40] <MacroMan> Cool, I'll try that, thanks
[09:42] <MacroMan> That still tried to do something graphically as my computer screen is going blank at start up
[09:42] <dr_willis> try text nomodeset
[09:42] <MacroMan> Basically an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 completed, but now I don't get any graphics :(
[09:42] <dr_willis> try text nomodeset noquiet nosplash      ;)
[09:43] <MacroMan> dr_willis, Will do, thanks
[09:43] <dr_willis> try text nomodeset noquiet nosplash   verbose       for verbose messages on boot   ;)
[09:43] <geektee> how do i write shell programs
[09:44] <dr_willis> geektee:  with a texxxt editor.
[09:44] <dr_willis> !abs
[09:44] <BOX> how can i grab the x-org errors?
[09:45] <geektee> ok thanks
[09:45] <dhruvasagar> Hey guys,
[09:46] <BOX> who said about learning shell scripting?
[09:47] <MacroMan> dr_willis, Thanks seems to be working as I'm getting a lot more output, just waiting to see if I actually get to terminal or not.
[09:47] <dr_willis> MacroMan:  try hitting alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 also once booted
[09:49] <MacroMan> Something just seems to be running over and over
[09:50] <MacroMan> my collueague reckons it looks like snort
[09:51] <Vickyyy> good morning/evening
[09:51] <BOX> who said about learning bsah scripting from scratch?
[09:51] <BOX> *bash
[09:52] <MacroMan> BOX, geektee did.
[09:53] <Kartagis> good to know that rsync doesn't re-send what's already on the remote server
[09:53] <BOX> MacroMan, how do you dm, someone with an irc command
[09:53] <Kartagis> does it do a size check?
[09:53] <dr_willis>   /msg foo
[09:54] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  i think it does several checks
[09:54] <llutz> Kartagis: not only size http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync#Algorithm
[09:55] <BOX> asfter all that i think he's gone anyway MacroMan !
[10:04] <BOX> any real new people out there to linux / ubuntu?
[10:05] <tozen> BOX: what do u mean?
[10:06] <BOX> people that have just started to learn linux,
[10:06] <Tex_Nick> BOX : there are about 1660 people here now ... most are new to linux or at least trying to learn the basics :-)
[10:06] <tozen> BOX: 5 month in
[10:07] <BOX> about the same here.
[10:08] <frank> how can I install phpmyadmin without installing apache from apt?
[10:09] <cargo122> BOX, i`m 8 yeaur in linux and steel new in it))
[10:09]  * wdp uses linux since 97'
[10:10] <wdp> tho, new to ubuntu. Just gave it a go because i was looking for something which works out of the box (i'm used to source based distributions), that's OT i guess, tho.
[10:10] <BOX> lol, you know when your new when discovering screen is really cool
[10:11] <llutz> frank: use apt-get --no-install-recommends
[10:11] <Emanon> Hey all, how do I bridge wireless connections in 12.10?
[10:12] <Emanon> Or whatever it is when you make multiple connections act as one.
[10:12] <cargo122> linux give you opportunity to change ALL any time- and that is whi it is cool))
[10:15] <Emanon> Any takers? I've got two separate wireless networks with their own internet connections, is there a way for me to treat them as one connection so they share the load?
[10:15] <Gavilan2> Emanon: Probably yes...
[10:16] <Gavilan2> Emanon: But make sure your wifi networks are really fast and don't use the same "frequency"...
[10:17] <Emanon> Hold on, I'll check the channels.
[10:17] <rekoil> Emanon: for a setup like that it's usually best if they are networked via ethernet, are they?
[10:17] <Emanon> No, they are two separate public hotspots I want to treat like one.
[10:17] <Gavilan2> rekoil: I suspect he is probably not the owner of the wifis xD
[10:18] <AndreaUbuntu> v4l-info gives out good info about my webcam....but whenever i test on gstreamer-properties, or guvcview or cheese, i get the error-->  libv4l2: error turning on stream: No such device .... whats up?
[10:18] <Emanon> And I'd like to do it without interfering with their settings as much as possible. People don't like it when you "optimize" their wifi.
[10:18] <Emanon> If they find out...
[10:18] <PeterGriffin> Can I add the exceptions for tar in a file and add the file in the tar line
[10:19] <Emanon> Gavilan2: They are both on channel 1.
[10:19] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : what you want to do is commonly called bonding ... your hardware needs to be capable in order to do it
[10:19] <Emanon> Like my computer or their routers?
[10:19] <llutz> PeterGriffin:  tar -X exclude.file
[10:20] <PeterGriffin> llutz: Thanks
[10:22] <Emanon> So Tex_Nick is there a way I can do this in 12.10?
[10:23] <Vickyyy> will ubuntu 12.04 work at all in an Asus EEE 1215p with win7?
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> !ics | Emanon is this useful
[10:23] <Emanon> I don't.
[10:23] <Emanon> But thank you MonkeyDust
[10:24] <night_wolf> hello when i try to move the close minimize maximize buttons to the right it doesnt work? i try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/config-desktop/C/window-button-order.html  but it didnt help? How do i change the button order?
[10:24] <Emanon> I don't have multiple devices with only one connection I have one device and multiple connections.
[10:25] <night_wolf> the buttons are still on the left, im running ubuntu 12.10 x64
[10:27] <Tex_Nick> Emanon  : the issue is specific to the two access points ... as well as the cloud connectors ... it's normally done at that level ... i suppose it could be implemented through software... but the end result would probably result in network degregation & bottlenecks
[10:28] <bor3y> hii
[10:28] <Emanon> Right, Tex_Nick That's what happens when I just connect to both of them at once with different adapters.
[10:28] <bor3y> i want to tell everybody the kubuntu desktop it's very great
[10:28] <Emanon> It's pretty nice bor3y, yes.
[10:29] <Emanon> I actually came from KDE before I switched to gnome and then was switched to unity.
[10:30] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : out of curosity ... why are you wanting to do this ?
[10:31] <Emanon> Tex_Nick: To have an obscenely fast connection by using multiple independent networks at once.
[10:32] <Emanon> It's easier than taking of the world...
[10:32] <night_wolf> nobody knows how i can change the window button order to the left?
[10:33] <night_wolf> to the right i mean, i tried with gconf-editor but they are still on the left side...
[10:33] <Emanon> I don't know how to change the order but I know Ubuntu tweak can put them on the right side.
[10:34] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : ok ... best bet is to do it at the hardware level ... you'll need two routers on each wire capable of bonding to each other
[10:34] <night_wolf> can i install ubuntu tweak or?
[10:35] <Emanon> I should warn you, though it is nice and I haven't had any problems with it I think #ubuntu frowns upon it, so upon your own head be it. That said: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[10:37] <night_wolf> for 11.10? does it run in 12.10?
[10:37] <Emanon> That thing that says 11.10 is a link to the older versions.
[10:37] <Emanon> The big button is the current.
[10:39] <Emanon> 0.8.3 is the current stable released on the 21st of last month.
[10:39] <Varazir> Hello, I'm PXE booting my OS. I like to move that to a local harddrive. what's the easiets way to do that ?
[10:39] <Varazir> it's going to be a older SSD
[10:40] <Emanon> So Tex_Nick There isn't a software solution, thank you for your help you've at least let me know what it was called so I can do further research on my own.
[10:41] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : if you just need to do it at a software level, have a look at this
[10:41] <night_wolf> it just show hardware information ubuntu related desktop information cache clean it doesnt show to tweak anything?
[10:41] <jiwan> how to remove specific package from my ubuntu?
[10:42] <Emanon> it's in the tweaks tab
[10:42] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : sorry the link didn't paste ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[10:42] <Emanon> Tweak tab Desktop section window option.
[10:43] <Emanon> That's awesome Tex_Nick. Thanks.
[10:43] <drdoom> hi ! All
[10:43] <Emanon> And as a disclaimer I don't hold you at all responsible if this blows up in my face.
[10:44] <Emanon> Though future generations may be of a different opinion ;-)
[10:44] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : hey you're welcome ...have fun @,@
  you mean uninstall? Open Software center find the installed software and click remove or uninstall
[10:44] <Cloaky> hello people looking for some advice. I've got my Ubuntu 12.04 install just the way I like it & I would like back it up / Make an image to ext HD. Any recommendations on how to do this?
[10:45] <he2> hello
[10:45] <Emanon> Cloaky: dd if=/dev/<your install partition> of=/dev/<external drive>/path/to/file/you/want.img
[10:45] <he2> i get error messages when i try to update or install something
[10:46] <he2> http://pastebin.com/G77hjdpg
[10:46] <Emanon> Or, Cloaky, if you have dcfldd: dcfldd if=/dev/<your install partition> of=/dev/<external drive>/path/to/file/you/want.img
[10:46] <Emanon> Then just dd (or dcfldd) the img back to your drive to restore.
[10:48] <Cloaky> Thanks Emanon I'll give that a go... Do you know if there is a GUI to do this? I'm no stranger to the command line, but I have other family members who also use Ubuntu
[10:49] <Emanon> Not sure, you could make them a shell script to click.
[10:49] <Emanon> Just make sure you define the drives in question by uuid instead of /dev/sd*
[10:49] <Emanon> So they are always found properly.
[10:49] <Cloaky> nice one
[10:50] <Cloaky> thanks for the help
[10:50] <Emanon> Cloaky: /dev/disk/by-uuid/<whatever the drive's uuid is>
[10:52] <Emanon> You could even set the script to run on a time or after certain events.
[10:52] <Emanon> It takes a while to do a whole drive though...
[10:52] <Emanon> Took me like an hour or so to zero out three 500g SATAs with dcfldd I think.
[10:53] <Cloaky> right... TBH I would like "the job" to be kicked off manually
[10:53] <Cloaky> what about some of the backup apps in the software centre?
[10:54] <Emanon> IDK, I've never used them.
[10:54] <Cloaky> any recommendations?
[10:54] <Emanon> Uh, hold on.
[10:54] <evol> ello
[10:55] <evol> looking for some help anyone willing
[10:56] <Emanon> I think deja dup comes standard with 12.10 doesn't it Cloaky?
[10:56] <Emanon> Though I don't know if it can do bitstream backups.
[10:56] <Cloaky> not too sure... still 12.04
[10:57] <Emanon> I'm just approaching this from a forensics standpoint and dd (as well as it's forks and patch dc3dd and dcfldd) are just the cleanest/fastest ways that I know of.
[10:57] <evol> sooooo fill take that as a no ?
[10:58] <Emanon> !ask >evol
[10:58] <Cloaky> cool... just reading up on dd... gunna do some testing
[10:58] <Cloaky> many thanks for the pointer
[10:59] <Emanon> For reference dcfldd and dc3dd have a few extra features (if memory serves) that dd doesn't.
[10:59] <Emanon> Features that make them excellent for saving data from failing drives.
[10:59] <llutz> Cloaky: you'd better look at solutions like rsnapshot than waisting diskspace for images as backups
[11:00] <Emanon> That sounds like a pretty good idea llutz
[11:02] <evol> im trying to dual boot my laptop toshiba satellite c855d-s5320 with win 8 preinstalled with ubuntu 12.04 with no luck . i have set the boot order to boot from cd drive and set it to csm boot and it just hangs at the ubuntu loading screen any ideas on how to fix this
[11:02] <evol> also tried usb install as well same thing there
[11:03] <Emanon> Could it be because window 8 certified (and preinstalled) devices use uefi to prevent people from tampering with the OS as a "security" (read: "vendor lock-in") measure?
[11:03] <Emanon> Try booting the USB in UEFI mode.
[11:04] <evol> turned off secure boot and changed uefi to csm in bios settings
[11:04] <evol> also tried to boot usb in uefi all i got there was a black scren
[11:05] <Emanon> Bummer, have you tried 12.10? I've heard some anecdotal accounts of it playing nicer with uefi.
[11:05] <evol> no i didn't try that went with the latest lts release
[11:06] <evol> may have to attempt that and see where that goes
[11:06] <eos_> hi everybody! is there a CLI command to list all the repositories and ppas?
[11:06] <Emanon> Makes sense to stick with LTS I agree but sometimes the non LTS have some newer stuff.
[11:07] <Emanon> eos_: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[11:07] <evol> im just about annoyed with this laptop in general i couldnt even downgrade to win 7 because there was no driver support
[11:08] <evol> fill try 12.10 and hope for the best
[11:08] <eos_> Emanon: thanks .... but I was hoping a command existed to manage repositories and ppa
[11:08] <evol> thanks for the input tho
[11:08] <Emanon> Or eos_  egrep -v '^#|^ *$' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* to do it while removing blank lines and commented out lines.
[11:09] <AndreaUbuntu> v4l-info gives out good info about my webcam....but whenever i test on gstreamer-properties, or guvcview or cheese, i get the error-->  libv4l2: error turning on stream: No such device .... whats up?
[11:09] <Emanon> askubuntu has some cool questions answered eos_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/list-all-repositories-and-ppa-from-command-line
[11:10] <ganesha> hi?\
[11:10] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, i've found 12.10 much more pleasant overall....i dont consider 12.04 of real LTS quality....
[11:10] <Emanon> Is your camera at /dev/video* perhaps AndreaUbuntu ?
[11:10] <eos_> Emanon: thanks, I had already seen it .... what I was looking for is a set of command or packages to manage the repositories without resorting to grep and company
[11:11] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, yes...but it shift from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 every time i start some program....keeps shifting over
[11:11] <ganesha> he hi
[11:11] <ganesha> hiiiIIIIIII
[11:11] <eos_> Emanon: I thought that everybody has the same problem, ther eshould be something available out there
[11:11] <Emanon> "Grep and company" that's pretty good.
[11:11] <ganesha> n o prob
[11:11] <ganesha> nmjhfdkghljh
[11:11] <ganesha> no
[11:11] <ganesha> who r u
[11:12] <Emanon> That sucks AndreaUbuntu I hope someone else in here knows how to fix it because I don't. I was just throwing something out in case it stuck.
[11:12] <AndreaUbuntu> sometimes (1/100 or so) the cam starts in cheese after a few minutes....and I notice it's on /dev/video10 or /dev/video13 !!
[11:12] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : you might also want to explore network bridging ... wikipedia has the best description i could find fast ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridging_%28networking%29
[11:12] <ganesha> what
[11:12] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, thanks :)
[11:13] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : you can also implement that thru software ... ubuntu has links ... google @,@
[11:15] <Emanon> Thanks Tex_Nick That's actually where I went to check for external links before I came here hehe.
[11:16] <AndreaUbuntu> I prefer Unity to all other DE's...its clean, minimalistic, doesn't overwhelm you with details.....one thing I find an issue is that searching in the dash is slow....like icons take a while to load etc.
[11:17] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : i've done a lot of that stuff in the past, even with satellite links ... always with hardware though ... can get crazy ... tis geek play though
[11:17] <eos_> Emanon: I ambtrying to go back to a vanilla installation to fix some problems I have been experiencing
[11:18] <Emanon> I'm fond of Unity myself but KDE is where I started and Gnome was my first big UI shift so I have a certain nostalgia for both of them too AndreaUbuntu.
[11:18] <eos_> Emanon: If I can list all ppa then ppa-purge them, I should possibly be able to sort the problem
[11:18] <Emanon> Yea, Tex_Nick I just bought an ALFA awus036nh.
[11:19] <Emanon> Oh, that's somewhat easier eos_ Have you tried Y-PPA-manager?
[11:19] <mrthg> really can't agree with unity, it just annoyes me for some odd reason
[11:19] <eos_> Emanon: nope ....
[11:19] <Emanon> Hold on eos_ I'll get you a link.
[11:19] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : how do you like it
[11:19] <AndreaUbuntu> 7 yrs ago (when i first started using Linux) i went to KDE since it was the more 'Windows-like' from what the internet said....but eventually i found that gnome seemd more simplistic, and pleasant visually. I like it's organisation better....though I admit I haven't used KDE since 3.x....so no idea how it feels todsy...still looks "too much" from screenshots/vidz though. Unity is now lovely in my opinion.....graphically its wonderful....just
[11:19] <AndreaUbuntu> these various graphical lags bug me...and most probably it has to do with compiz more than Unity itself :/
[11:20] <Emanon> It's quite nice once you tell it you're in bolivia...
[11:21] <eos_> Emanon: Thanks a lot ....
[11:21] <gvandeweyer> does anybody have experience in setting up IP-tables to access an nfs-server behind nat?
[11:21] <gvandeweyer> or a good tutorial ..
[11:22] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : are you getting good n throughput ... gigabit that is
[11:22] <Emanon> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/y-ppa-manager-easily-search-add-remove.html eos_
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !iptables > gvandeweyer
[11:22] <Emanon> Tex_Nick: Nah, it's not a gigabit adapter.
[11:22] <AndreaUbuntu> I've tried Cinnamon on Mint 14 a while bk....whilst it seemed snappier than Unity overall...it had the same overwhelming feeling KDE gave me...i didnt feel comfortable with it...too many things to 'look at' if you know what i mean
[11:22] <Emanon> 150Mbs max.
[11:23] <Emanon> AndreaUbuntu: Mint is nice. I think it's wm is Cinnamon now isn't it?
[11:24] <AndreaUbuntu> yes Cinnamon
[11:24] <AndreaUbuntu> but it seemed they've done to GNOME what KDE has....over-detailed stuff, text, notifications etc.
[11:24] <Emanon> But it can go to 2W tx power and came standard with a 5dBm omni and a 7dBm paddle antenna Tex_Nick.
[11:25] <Emanon> AndreaUbuntu: To each their own in Linux.
[11:25] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,  - cynamon  as opsed to thair   gnome2 junk mate is actually a really nice,  DE,   but its   A large,  B not as stable as   it has to be to use it on a production machine... ie  your comanpy desktop...
[11:26] <AndreaUbuntu> Well, Emanon & ichat....choice is good :) I'll stick to Unity for the time being....but i'd love it if they made compiz a little less laggy
[11:26] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : did you have to tell itit was south of the equator ;-)
[11:26] <Emanon> Good luck, that's like simplifying xorg
[11:26] <Emanon> Bolivia Tex_Nick
[11:27] <ichat> i have been using it  my personal work laptop for  over  a year  it was a 17inc   1600x900  screen.. but my new   1366x768 ultrabook was just to small for it... and i found that after a long road of personally dislike    unity finally proved a point...
[11:27] <AndreaUbuntu> i love mint's refined stuff though....for example my webcam worked out of the box with mint 14....does not with Ubuntu 12.10...and after a WEEK of trying, it still does not
[11:27] <AndreaUbuntu> yes Unity is great on a small laptop screen :)
[11:27] <Emanon> I have to mod a transmit profile to go to 2W though. BO standard top end is 1W.
[11:28] <Emanon> That sucks. I remember when you flat couldn't get most mainstream wifi adapters working without ndiswrapper AndreaUbuntu.
[11:28] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : yeah in south america ... why was that an issue ?
[11:28] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, i remmebr that too :D
[11:28] <Emanon> Why was what an issue Tex_Nick?
[11:28] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,  -  im really wondering what  webcam than.. because  afaik  mint 14 is based on the same ubuntu kernel??? is it not?
[11:29] <AndreaUbuntu> I'm curious about Elementary when it finally (if it does) come out of beta.....the only issue seems that unless you use 'their' apps, the UI is not so consistent after all
[11:29] <AndreaUbuntu> ichat, yes same kernel...which boggles the mind too....it's an integrated HP TrueVision HD cam....it's detected fine...just won't work though
[11:29] <dr_willis> amazing thing about consistent UI's is how quickly they can get dumped. ;)
[11:30] <Emanon> BTW is there anyway I can use the motion controls on my Logitech Camera in 12.10?
[11:30] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : you said ... It's quite nice once you tell it you're in bolivia... was wondering about that
[11:30] <AndreaUbuntu> dr_willis - it is  however, desirable :)
[11:30] <AndreaUbuntu> v4l-info gives out good info about my webcam....but whenever i test on gstreamer-properties, or guvcview or cheese, i get the error-->  libv4l2: error turning on stream: No such device .... whats up?
[11:30] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Il gurnata! T-tajjeba?
[11:31] <katarakt> Question: How do I only get *part* of the WHOIS results in the terminal?  I'm looking to return the owner, and don't want the rest of it.
[11:31] <dr_willis> katarakt:  you could always use some sort of grep/awk/sed filter
[11:31] <Emanon> Nah, no issue. "ifconfig wlan3 down && iw reg set BO && ifconfig wlan3 up" and it's done.
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> katarakt  use awk to extract words from output
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  was faster :)
[11:32] <katarakt> Thanks....nice and simple solution
[11:32] <AndreaUbuntu> one thing i wish is for linux in geenral to have good java font rendering (like OS X)
[11:32] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,  - sorry no clue, working perfectly here,  the only   issue i had was that wifi couldn  get  up after a  sleep/hybernate... but that was a quick fix, of witch i still dont understand why its not a system-default  to unload the wifi driver...
[11:32] <AndreaUbuntu> i work on matlab all day
[11:32] <AndreaUbuntu> and man those fonts suck lol
[11:33] <AndreaUbuntu> i guess that is why Apple have their own 'fork ' of the JRE?
[11:33] <AndreaUbuntu> or 'customisations'
[11:33] <laze1989> Not anymore.
[11:33] <AndreaUbuntu> laze1989, yeah i wonder whats going to happen now
[11:34] <ee12155> #gofuckyourselves
[11:34] <AndreaUbuntu> maybe MathWorks should re-write their GUI in python or something xD
[11:34] <ichat> java should die,  - not because its bad,  just because  its  oracle running (or lack there off) ... the show
[11:35] <AndreaUbuntu> ichat - easier said than done.....many big apps need java
[11:35] <ee12015> what's up people
[11:35] <YolarP> Hi. I'm fairly new to Ubuntu and don't have insight into the state of certain things. Can someone please tell me which is the most popular DE for Ubuntu, or even Linux in general if it applies? I tired Googling but got a bunch of conflicting or unreliable answers. Thanks.
[11:35] <Guest75120> I'm looking for templates for LibreOffice.  I am looking to make a CV for a job.  Where can I find that or a word processor that can do that?
[11:35] <dr_willis> YolarP:  the default for Ubuntu is Unity.
[11:35] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,   - minecraft being the b est of them :P
[11:35] <ichat> sorry lool
[11:35] <Emanon> I'd like to mount it on my phone and use a super-directional cantenna so that I could write a script to read gps coords, heading, pitch and signal strength so I could just spin around with my monstrosity in hand and have gps coords for all the networks near me.
[11:35] <Emanon> Hold on, I've got to bring network down and back  up.
[11:35] <AndreaUbuntu> lol
[11:35] <YolarP> dr_willis: Is it the most popular DE?
[11:36] <YolarP> If there are any such insights.
[11:36] <YolarP> Maybe I should ask in #linux.
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> YolarP  try a few DE's an decide which you prefer
[11:36] <dr_willis> YolarP:  I dont know of any reliable poleing sites.. :) Ubuntu uses Unity, Kubuntu uses KDE. Luuntu uses LXDE.
[11:36] <AndreaUbuntu> YolarP, if you are new, i'd stick to the default on Ubuntu, which is Unity....but you can change later on
[11:36] <YolarP> Okay, thanks people.
[11:37] <YolarP> As usual you're the best. :)
[11:37] <AndreaUbuntu> it's very visual, clear, easy.....
[11:37] <AndreaUbuntu> later on you might prefer something else perhaps, but for starters, and even for long-time users like me, it works well :)
[11:38] <nickalex> list
[11:38] <dr_willis> List of what?
[11:38] <dr_willis> !alis | nickalex
[11:38] <YolarP> Seriously, you guys are the best. Do you even know how awful most chans are when any given question is asked?
[11:38] <YolarP> Angry people come out of the bushes to nitpick on details rather than just providing a straight-forward answer.
[11:38] <YolarP> So thanks. :)
[11:38] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,  -  as long as its on a small screen it looks perfect (or allmost) but on a  larger screen i kinda more like the multi-windows   not as compact approach where multi-tasking works mutch  better...
[11:39] <AndreaUbuntu> DE's equate to flame wars usually...everybody llikes something different....Unity has a corporate feel though :)
[11:39] <dr_willis> YolarP:  your question dident really have a straightforward answer. ;P
[11:39] <YolarP> Okay, a relevant answer*
[11:39] <YolarP> rather than WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS???!?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN POPULAR?!
[11:39] <YolarP> Which is like, the most annoying thing ever.
[11:40] <Emanon> Back.
[11:40] <AndreaUbuntu> ichat - yes i miss having window tabs.....I wonder if Unity could implement a way to rpeview multiple windows when you have multiple instances of the same program open....so that its easier to choose...
[11:40] <Emanon> Lol. compiz crashed.
[11:40] <nickalex> aiuto
[11:41] <villev_> I have created an upstart job in /etc/init, but the service doesn't show up. how to debug this?
[11:41] <mrthg> that sounds familiar (compiz crashing)
[11:41] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, it does sometimes :)
[11:41] <ichat> and auto-hide dockbar like in gnome 2 ... as an exention / pluggin would be perfect
[11:41] <Emanon> No biggie.
[11:41] <Emanon> Still better than Windoze.
[11:41] <dr_willis> theres docks that work  like that. ;)
[11:41] <AndreaUbuntu> ichat, yes....right now u have to click open all windows of an app...then an app-expose comes up eventually....really gets in the way!
[11:42] <AndreaUbuntu> dr_willis - yes but i want the stock one to work well out of the box...
[11:42] <nickalex> come avere lalista grazzie
[11:42] <AndreaUbuntu> one dock is enough on a small screen :)
[11:43] <AndreaUbuntu> so hwo about 1) hover on the launcher icon that has multiple instances open 2) small thumbnail previews come up 3) you click on the one you want
[11:43] <xubuntu> hi
[11:43] <dr_willis> AndreaUbuntu:  i was thinking that was in 13.04
[11:43] <AndreaUbuntu> dr_willis, good if it is :)
[11:43] <Guest47431> hey who is using ubuntu as of now
[11:44] <mrthg> i am
[11:44] <mrthg> in virtual mode
[11:44] <ichat> it should be  possible to add it to the top bar... as there is enough empty space anyway,  just not  if the  <file> <view>  <help>   menu is shown...    but you could easily make it so that   the bar switches function
[11:44] <Guest47431> and how can i use it to make a server
[11:44] <Emanon> I am.
[11:44] <nickalex> aiuto
[11:44] <AndreaUbuntu> coz if i have say 5 instances of a program minimized, i dont wanna click 5 times, and THEN get an expose lol
[11:44] <Guest47431> how can i be used as a server
[11:44] <nickalex> non riesco a fare nulla
[11:44] <AndreaUbuntu> ichat, thats another alternative yes
[11:44] <AndreaUbuntu> especially for big screens.
[11:44] <Guest47431> cuz ive got xubuntu installed and i wanted it to be a server so how do i do it
[11:45] <AndreaUbuntu> but the thumbnails would fit in the 'unity' style of things
[11:45] <AndreaUbuntu> i mean, launch the expose immediately...would be a fine solution too
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest47431  use tasksel (task select) to install the server modules
[11:45] <Guest47431> hello can anyone pleas help me
[11:46] <ct529> Emanon: the probelm I am trying to solve is due to the following errors: GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Two different plugins tried to register
[11:46] <mrthg> just pointing you to monkey here, guest 47431
[11:46] <mrthg> scroll up
[11:46] <Tex_Nick> !it nickalex
[11:46] <ct529> and GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_add_interface_dynamic:
[11:47] <Tex_Nick> !it | nickalex
[11:47] <dr_willis> Guest47431:  install the services you want.. its a server.
[11:47] <AndreaUbuntu> guys...sometimes i install a program, and it requires say a number of dependencies....but then I uninstall it, and the dependencies remain there....is there a way to remove all unneeded dependencies from a system?
[11:48] <Guest47431> i only have task manager
[11:48] <sevenforall> AndreaUbuntu: sudo apt-get purge [program name] should do the trick
[11:48] <Guest47431> im running xubuntu guys :(
[11:48] <ct529> Emanon: thanks a lot for y-ppa-manager it seems very interesting!
[11:48] <AndreaUbuntu> sevenforall, what if i didnt purge? :)
[11:48] <Guest47431> monkey
[11:48] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,  - yes there is...  if you use  aptitude you can sellect it to remove also  unused dependancies
[11:48] <sevenforall> AndreaUbuntu: Well, then you have dependancies left, lol
[11:49] <Guest47431> i only have task manager is that the same thing
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest47431  open a terminal akd type tasksel
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> and*
[11:49] <dr_willis> Guest47431:   What do you mean exactly?
[11:49] <Guest47431> k
[11:49] <Osakasa> Hello, i haven't figure out easy method how to launch program as startup. Say i want to launch TuxRace and Spotify everytime as my computer start, how would you do it?
[11:49] <sevenforall> Guest47431: I missed your question, but you may get some additional support over at #xubuntu
[11:49] <AndreaUbuntu> sevenforall, well thats the issue, i wanna remove useless dependencies post uninstall
[11:49] <Emanon> No prob ct529.
[11:49] <sevenforall> AndreaUbuntu: Can't you reinstall the application and purge it immediatly afterwards? :o Dirty, but quicker I think.
[11:50] <AndreaUbuntu> sevenforall, i forgot the whole list of apps i've never purged before xD
[11:50] <ichat> Guest47431,   a nice link for you is howtoforge.com   i think... just google it... it will help you
[11:50] <sevenforall> Guest47431: Would you mind changing your nick, hehe? It's not necessary, but it makes it a bit easier to mention you, for there are multiple Guest####'s :P
[11:50] <ct529> Emanon: I have removed all ppa,and returned all packages to the standard version, still cannot resolve the problem .... I am completely stuck. :-(
[11:50] <dr_willis> several dozen.;)
[11:50] <Osakasa> wouldn't it be handy to right-click the icon in launcher (name? the bar which pop-ups from left) and there comes "launch as a startup". Like you have home folder and when you right-click it there comes "documents, downloads..."
[11:50] <AndreaUbuntu> sudo aptitude autoclean maybe?
[11:51] <Emanon> AndreaUbuntu: "sudo apt-get install <program in question> && sudo apt-get purge <program in question> && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean" perhaps?
[11:51] <Guest47431> monkeydust it asked if i want to install it and i said yeas now wut
[11:51] <sevenforall> Emanon: But he doesn't know what apps he installed!
[11:51] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, thanks i'll have a go  with the autoremove/autocleans
[11:51] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[11:51] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,    sorry not sure...
[11:52] <Emanon> AndreaUbuntu: autoremove kills orphans and autoclean hides the bodies.
[11:52] <AndreaUbuntu> LOL
[11:52] <AndreaUbuntu> Emanon, thanks :)
[11:53] <ichat> btw, is there a way with  xchat to  add certain people to a preferent list... (so that when you hit auto-complete  thair nick pops up first...  it makes  chatting a lot easier in sutch a large chan
[11:53] <sevenforall> Emanon: How to get this channel to Tor in just 1 line
[11:53] <Emanon> What sevenforall?
[11:53] <Guest47431> ok
[11:54] <sevenforall> Emanon: Nvm ;)
[11:54] <Emanon> We don't send things to Tor for being objectionable. Objectionable things go there on their own.
[11:54] <Emanon> Have you seen ReddiTor?
[11:54] <sevenforall> Emanon: It wasn't to be taken all too seriously
[11:54] <sevenforall> Not yet
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> Guest47431  http://www.serverubuntu.it/
[11:55] <Guest47431> k thanks im about to change my name to kryptedbbkick
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest47431  keep questions in the channel, please
[11:55] <Guest47431> k
[11:56] <Emanon> sevenforall: It's the same code as reddit but on an onion
[11:56] <Emanon> Or, it was, I think it got shut down.
[11:56] <sevenforall> The things that must've been going on there...
[11:56] <Emanon> Might be back up there's a new link to it in r/onions
[11:57] <krypedbbkick> kk
[11:57] <Emanon> Yea, sevenforall like "Onions: Things that make you cry."
[11:57] <krypedbbkick> so how do i change the collore
[11:57] <krypedbbkick> color
[11:57] <Emanon> Of what krypedbbkick?
[11:57] <krypedbbkick> my name
[11:57] <ichat> me dont trust tor ...  a faulty entry node and you even more sucked than you where without  the network
[11:58] <Emanon> I think it's assigned automatically.
[11:58] <sevenforall> krypedbbkick: I think that's as... Dammit emanon...
[11:58] <Emanon> ichat: then use bridges.
[11:58] <sevenforall> So, let's see how to set-up Tor on Ubuntu
[11:58] <krypedbbkick> lol
[11:59] <krypedbbkick> monkeydust
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> krypedbbkick
[11:59] <krypedbbkick> lol hey im the guest guy i change me name k
[11:59] <sevenforall> krypedbbkick: Way more easy to tab, thanks :P
[11:59] <krypedbbkick> lol your welcome
[11:59] <Emanon> Yea, ReddiTor is back up.
[12:00] <Emanon> Although I've been having trouble getting Tor to work on 12.10 for some reason.
[12:00] <sevenforall> I'm on 12.04, I'll see
[12:00] <krypedbbkick> ok just to give u guys a good idea about me i work and create video games and i make software and bild and work on computers and aka small hacker but i am new to this ubuntu and need help
[12:01] <sevenforall> Tor even works on my phone, c'mon now
[12:01] <krypedbbkick> so i am wanting to make a server and i am kind of lost
[12:01] <mrthg> just started testing it on mine so, lets hope it works
[12:01] <sevenforall> krypedbbkick: "I'm an IT guy, I know a lot, but I'm sort of ashamed that I am facing something new here."
[12:01] <sevenforall> krypedbbkick: Web server?
[12:02] <Emanon> sevenforall: Tor works fine on my phone actually.
[12:02] <ichat> krypedbbkick,  - if your a small hacker you must be  equiped with good reading skilles ... aka    you know what im gonna say next
[12:02] <krypedbbkick> um kind of its basicly for my games and to have multiplayer attached to them but yea web server
[12:02] <sevenforall> Emanon: Exactly
[12:02] <krypedbbkick> yeas c++ javascript php and html
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> krypedbbkick  start here http://www.serverubuntu.it/
[12:03] <krypedbbkick> k thank you
[12:03] <mrthg> hum my tor crashed :(
[12:03] <sevenforall> I have a basic tutorial on how to set up LAMP, or more of a spoonfeeding page, but I don't think that's what you're looking for
[12:03] <alo21> hi... can someone tell me what zeitgeist really does, please?
[12:03] <krypedbbkick> well right now anything that can teach me how to work these things will do for now
[12:03] <krypedbbkick> i plan on taking my skills to the next lvl in collage
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> krypedbbkick  and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:04] <dr_willis> alo21:  it like a datalogger keeping trackof how much time you spend in differnt apps and with what files and other metrics.
[12:04] <Emanon> alo21: Zeitgeist (framework), a GNOME 3.0 activity logging system similar to Lifestream
[12:04] <Emanon> alo21: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_%28framework%29
[12:04] <dr_willis> alo21:  theres some data 'graphing' extras it has if you want to see how much time for example yovue spend editing differnt ifles or in other apps
[12:05] <AndreaUbuntu> or procrastinating on Facebook :P
[12:05] <alo21> dr_willis, Emanon can zeitgeist know if an instance of an application is open yet?
[12:05] <dr_willis> alo21:  no idea.  I rarely use it.
[12:05] <Emanon> No idea alo21 I just googled what it was and that came up in wikipedia.
[12:06] <dr_willis> its not clear what you mean :)
[12:06] <dr_willis> The apps have to support logging to zeitguist also.
[12:06] <krypedbbkick> so hay sevenforall you go to itt tech?
[12:07] <guilherme_> Hey guys, need some help: I have a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu Server 12.04 (LTS), and I'm having problems adding new virtual network cards to it, even though they are recognized by hardware, they do not show up on ifconfig and thus do not join the network. How may I add several interfaces?
[12:07] <krypedbbkick> oh and monkeydust dose it matter if im running xubunta
[12:08] <sevenforall> krypedbbkick: I'm afraid not, why so?
[12:08] <ichat> did you restart the network service   after adding the new devices...  guilherme_
[12:08] <guilherme_> yes, restarted and rebooted the machine, no go :(
[12:08] <krypedbbkick> becuz i couldnt ever find the right iso for ubuntu so i came across xubuntu and thats wut im running now
[12:09] <krypedbbkick> i mean i will install ubunta if i need to i can get any iso for free but i just need to now
[12:11] <dr_willis> Not sure whats so hard about finding the Ubuntu iso.. :)
[12:12] <krypedbbkick> im running a very old windows xp and everytime i tried to install ubuntu on there it kept saying the bit for my cp was a i86 and i tried both 32 and 64
[12:12] <ichat> krypedbbkick,    just follow the tutorials,   otherwise your only making it harder on yourself, get into trouble and stress the fee support that your offered  for not good reason...   so please dont  be an ass and follow the links you where given...  and only start with the hard stuff when your ready
[12:12] <dr_willis> krypedbbkick:   if the cpu dosent support PAE. you will need 12.04
[12:12] <krypedbbkick> wut do u mean how am i being an ass may i ask
[12:12] <krypedbbkick> kk
[12:14] <ichat> AndreaUbuntu,   what are you running ubuntu on currently?\
[12:14] <blami> dr_willis: ubuntu dropped non-PAE kernels?
[12:14] <daimoh> all.. i'm hoping someone can help me salvage my ubuntu upgrade - it died halfway through and now grub comes up with an "out of range" on my monitor
[12:14] <dr_willis> blami:  in 12.10 yes.
[12:14] <AndroUser> ...
[12:14] <daimoh> i tried to boot with the 12.10 live CD, but that also comes up with an "out of range" on the monitor
[12:15] <AndreaUbuntu> ichat, HP Pavilion Dm1
[12:15] <AndreaUbuntu> laptop
[12:15] <dr_willis> daimoh:  does it boot to the desktop at all?
[12:15] <daimoh> nope, no desktop at all
[12:15] <daimoh> just sits at "out of range"
[12:15] <dr_willis> daimoh:  tried the nomodeset option?
[12:16] <daimoh> i see "grub loading" and then it is out of range.
[12:16] <AndreaUbuntu> dm1 4425-ea is the model
[12:16] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[12:16] <daimoh> ah great, i'll try that - thanks dr_willis
[12:16] <ichat> diamoh  append  nomodset  your  boot option in grub than boot and fix your  (nvidia????) driver  to corret settings
[12:17] <jrtappers> is it possible to have different wallpapers on cinamon, Gnome 3, KDE and unity
[12:17] <jrtappers> I can only chnage the KDE one independantly
[12:17] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  some of the desktops use the same gconf settings.
[12:17] <dr_willis> or dconf.
[12:18] <jrtappers> dr_willis, is there a way to override that? or trick it?
[12:18] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  never really worreied about it. or tried. ;)
[12:18] <dr_willis> Use some wallpaper randomizer ;P
[12:18] <daimoh> ichat - i can't get to edit the grub config, as i think it's grub that's causing the out-of-range problem
[12:19] <dr_willis> daimoh:  ive seen where grub gives the Out of range message.. Untill Lightdm/X starts up.
[12:20] <daimoh> dr_willis: yes, me too - I tried leaving it for a good 20 minutes to see if anything would come up. alas, no it did not.
[12:20] <daimoh> problem is, i don't see anything come up at all
[12:20] <daimoh> it goes straight from the bios loading, to an "out of range"
[12:20] <daimoh> i have no idea what's going on in the background.
[12:21] <daimoh> i just rebooted from the USB live CD, hit the nomodeset option, and then "try ubuntu without installing" and it started booting.. and now it has "out of range"
[12:22] <daimoh> pressing "shift" after the bios stuff doesn't seem to make any difference - which makes me think it's grub that's causing "out of range"
[12:22] <Jancoover> join #english
[12:24] <ServerPawn> I just installed Unbutu to dual boot on a win 8 machine, however now when I select Ubuntu as the OS to start it takes me to a screen where it says file \ubuntu\winboot\wubildir.mbr isnt working. then gives a status of OxC000007B. Any ideas how to fix this, first time Ubuntu user...sorry if this is a silly question
[12:24] <daimoh> any other ideas?
[12:25] <ichat> daimoh,  - duhhh
[12:25] <ichat> nope
[12:26] <ichat> ServerPawn,  -  no experience with win8 - i remove it the minute after  i got the machine
[12:26] <daimoh> *sigh* i'll never understand why grub has to be all pretty.. what's wrong with a simple console..
[12:26] <aFeijo> Which would be the best set for a email server? I need imap, smtp and mailboxes stored in mysql
[12:27] <ichat> daimoh,  - hah back iin the day when you had lilo :P
[12:27] <blami> daimoh: I am using gummiboot
[12:27] <daimoh> ichat - exactly! at least you knew what was going on with lilo!
[12:27] <blami> daimoh: which is single C file bootloader that does not have that useless cruft
[12:27] <ichat> daimoh,  - hell yah
[12:28] <ichat> blami,  is it  just for bios...  or does efi work too
[12:29] <daimoh> blami - i'm mid-way through an upgrade to 12.10… trying to change boot loaders may just melt my brain.
[12:29] <dr_willis> Upgrades failing...... is not a good sign. ;)
[12:30] <dr_willis> a potential sign that a reinstall is in your near future
[12:31] <daimoh> a reinstall will kill me.. i have a massive mythtv install that i just simply cannot lose!
[12:31] <blami> ichat: gummiboot is efi only
[12:31] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, have you solved any issues with 'cannot write broken pipes'?
[12:31] <blami> ichat: it only loads other efi stubs ... it's dead plain ...
[12:32] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  seen the message mentioned befor. ive even seen it on my working systems..
[12:32] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  never had to fix it.
[12:32] <claudiu_> 10.04 Why when i log out the screen is pixelated? Instead of a clean black screen? This is after i installed nvidia proprietary graphics driver.
[12:32] <daimoh> so i've booted up off the usb drive now and I have the desktop up - how can i fix up the HD so it at least boots in a video mode the card/monitor supports?
[12:33] <dr_willis> claudiu_:  you mean the consoles when you Exit out of X ?
[12:33] <dr_willis> daimoh:  you could try reinstalling grub. and setting it to use TEXT mode and a Text based grub menu . so you can at least see grub and any error messages.
[12:34] <claudiu_> When I shutdown the laptop.
[12:34] <daimoh> dr_willis: that would be ideal - how can i reinstall grub on a disk i didn't boot from though?
[12:34] <daimoh> for instance, i have the HD mounted in /mnt
[12:34] <daimoh> it's /mnt/sda1
[12:34] <dr_willis> daimoh:  that boot-repair tool mentioned in the !fixgrub wiki
[12:35] <dr_willis> claudiu_:  that sounds like a typical Plymouth Vs Nvidia or ATI drivers annoyance.
[12:35] <claudiu_> Thanks
[12:36] <daimoh> dr_willis: thanks - will find that wiki...
[12:36] <dr_willis> hit up google for ubuntu boot repair  and i think it will be first link
[12:37] <dr_willis> or follow the links at the
[12:37] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[12:37] <dr_willis> wiki page
[12:37] <daimoh> ah, many thanks
[12:38] <arshavin> can't mount android sd card in ubuntu either automatically or manually anybody got any idea
[12:42] <Emanon> Like the sd by itself or when it's in the android device?
[12:44] <arshavin> Emanon: I gues so
[12:44] <Emanon> Which?
[12:44] <dr_willis> gotta love exacting answers. ;)
[12:44] <ridolien> Anyone using Extreme Networks Equipment here?
[12:44] <arshavin> when is android device
[12:44] <mrthg> which item on a given server increases, when a web server's gets more http requests to proces
[12:44] <dr_willis> arshavin:  and what android version is on the devcice?
[12:44] <arshavin> GB
[12:45] <ridolien> mrthg, the number of http requests increases
[12:45] <Emanon> Is have you selected "Turn on USB storage" when you plug in the device arshavin ?
[12:45] <arshavin> dr_willis: ginger bread,it never really mounts,
[12:45] <Emanon> Is that even an option in GB?
[12:45] <arshavin> Emanon : yes
[12:45] <mrthg> like when more people approach the server via browser
[12:45] <dr_willis> Theres some posts/articals on the OMGubuntu site and WEbupd8 blog sites on how to mount android devices that use that MTP method.
[12:46] <arshavin> Emanon : yes,it is na option but nothing shows up
[12:46] <magik_> Good morning everyone
[12:46] <Emanon> Is the device unlocked?
[12:46] <dr_willis> I just use ssh/wirelless tools to transfer stuff to my phones.
[12:46] <arshavin> Emanon : Yes, it is unlocked
[12:46] <Emanon> Was it when you plugged it in?
[12:46] <ridolien> arshavin, there is definately a package installation required to support android filesystem mounting in Ubuntu
[12:47] <arshavin> I actually need to partition my sdcard using fdisk so ssh won't help
[12:47] <Emanon> Yea, IDK about GB but JB just mounts as a USB device, no help to arshavin though.
[12:47] <dr_willis> arshavin:  y dint think you are going to partion it over usb, while its in the phone.
[12:48] <Emanon> You could try flashing TWRP if there is a version for your device and mounting it as USB from there.
[12:48] <arshavin> dr_willis: i have done that
[12:48] <dr_willis> i cant even imagine why you need to partion it really. ;)
[12:48] <arshavin> Emanon : what is this TWRP
[12:48] <dr_willis> Night all. have fun.
[12:48] <Emanon> It's a recovery image, like ClockWorkMod Recovery.
[12:48] <arshavin> dr_willis: a2sd stuff
[12:49] <Emanon> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
[12:49] <maxb> Android seems to be aggressively deprecating USB mass storage support, my One X lost that in favour of MTP when updated from ICS to JB
[12:50] <daimoh> dr_willis: reinstalling grub looks like it might have done the trick for me.. i've successfully booted off the HD in recovery mode - many, many thanks.
[12:50] <Emanon> I AM using a custom rom maxb so...
[12:50] <Emanon> But if he has root he can flash twrp and do it from there independent of android itself.
[12:51] <arshavin> Emanon: well my old sgy just wouldn't accept any custom roms since i flashed it with some bad options in odin
[12:51] <Emanon> Do you have root?
[12:52] <arshavin> Emanon: I lost root after flashing with stock rom now I am badly stuck I already have cwm.zip but ccant flash it
[12:52] <Emanon> Ouch.
[12:52] <Emanon> Can you get it to go into adb and detect it that way?
[12:52] <arshavin> yes adb works fine but without root it's useless
[12:53] <ElysiumNet> when grub-pc asks me to install it on all partitions, should I install it on the partitions that are in the raid, or on the raid itself?
[12:53] <Emanon> Hold on, I'm looking up the SGY
[12:53] <magik_> I have a question it is kind of off topic but if anyone has an answer for me that would be much appreciated,  I live in a small town and there is only a few places here that do computer work but they charge a fortune.  If I wanted to open up my own repair center would I need to get a special license and insurance or can I use a disclaimer anyone have a link with information about that?
[12:53] <arshavin> i can push files to my sdccard but after rebooting the device they dissapear
[12:53] <Emanon> Aww that's a cute lil phone.
[12:54] <ElysiumNet> magik_: IANAL, but I think you just need to get the basic business requirements
[12:54] <ElysiumNet> registered business, paying taxes, bookkeeping, etc
[12:54] <arshavin> yea it's nice but without custom roms it seems boring
[12:54] <ElysiumNet> the liability/insurance thing should be rolled up into when setting up a business as well
[12:55] <magik_> k, but I would need some form of insurance incase someone complains right?
[12:55] <gac> magik_: depends which country you're in, but you'd need whatever any other physical shop in your area needs (i.e. maybe public liability insurance for your premises to protect customers, insurance against being broken into, etc)
[12:55] <Emanon> And you say ODIN no longer works at all?
[12:55] <ElysiumNet> gac: I think he means insurance against accidentily wrecking a computer, or having to announce a computer as wrecked
[12:55] <arshavin> odin works but flashin custom roms does not work
[12:55] <ElysiumNet> since he mentioned *repair* shop
[12:56] <gac> I wouldn't think there is such an insurance policy? or it'd be covered by the accidental damage portion of the contents insurance
[12:56] <ElysiumNet> gac: who do you charge if the car mechanic breaks something?
[12:56] <magik_> Ok thanks allot guys I appreciate the info
[12:56] <Emanon> That's weird it's not supposed to be able to deny a forced flash from download mode
[12:56] <gac> as a customer, I hold the garage responsible, where the garage get the money from isn't my business
[12:56] <gac> they may just pay the cost, they may claim off their public liability insurance, whatever
[12:57] <ElysiumNet> gac: and what if it's something that broke due to time? and it just happened to be in the garage's hands
[12:57] <ElysiumNet> or it was already a piece of crap car to begin with that has been festering for decades
[12:57] <arshavin> actually i use cwm recovery to flash custom roms in .zip files and stock rom with odin works fine
[12:57] <gac> again, not my problem, if the garage hand back a car with a different fault to what it went in with then it's up to them to fix as far as I'm concerned
[12:58] <ElysiumNet> I'm pretty sure car garages don't just outright decline to fix cars; or do they?
[12:58] <KM0201> gac: lmao, you're full of it.
[12:58] <gac> unless they can prove beyond all doubt that the work they did couldn't possibly have caused it
[12:58] <ElysiumNet> gac: I'm playing the evil client here. you know, the one with oil and chocolate smeared all over and inside of a SNES
[12:58] <KM0201> trusdt me on this... they are not liable in the situation you describe.
[12:58] <ElysiumNet> and having louched it in baby poo
[12:58] <gac> KM0201: I'm not, I've been in that situation at least twice. had a car back with a fault it didn't have when it went in, been fixed at no cost each time
[12:58] <Emanon> arshavin: So can you flash a rooted rom from cwm?
[12:58] <gac> fairly minor cost (couple of hundred pounds, tops) admittedly, not thousands
[12:59] <gac> but they still paid
[12:59] <KM0201> gac: you're full of it, trust me.. i've probably been in that situation way wya more than you (on the business side) and i've told MANY people like you to pound sand.. they kick and scream, and threaten with l awyers, i just chuckle, and tell them to bring it
[13:00] <KM0201> just because i'm working on something, and something else breaks, doesn't mena i'm responsible to fix it, unless i deliberately or through negligence,k broke it.
[13:00] <arshavin> no that stopped working since i checked extra options in odin
[13:00] <ElysiumNet> anyway, grub is asking me to install to all partitions... should I install it to all partitions, or just to /dev/md1?
[13:00] <gac> KM0201: then you probably wouldn't see my business again ;) but that's your prerogative and it may be a UK/US difference. All I know is that I've had no problems in the past in this situation as a customer
[13:00] <ElysiumNet> gac: we probably wouldn't want to see your business again :P
[13:00] <KM0201> gac: and w/ that attitude, i wouldn't want it to be frank.
[13:01] <gac> again, your choice :)
[13:01] <ElysiumNet> "Here is this crap that will definitely break if you even more than just glance at it!"
[13:01] <KM0201> some customers, are just to big a PITA to keep... you have to make a decision.
[13:01] <ElysiumNet> "And you'll pay me for EVERY SINGLE PENNY for this WORTHLESS steaming pile of crap"
[13:01] <Emanon> Wow, arshavin that's completely beyond my ability to fix have you tried at xda?
[13:01] <ElysiumNet> it's called the reverse scam
[13:02] <Emanon> Or can you reset CWM to factory?
[13:02] <gac> but if I got a piece of equipment back with a fault it didn't have when I handed it over, I certainly wouldn't just hand over my own money unless there was a very good reason (for example the engine broke while the garage were changing a rear bulb, those two things couldn't possibly be related)
[13:02] <KM0201> gac: but my point is, you insinuated it is their "responsibility" (ie, legally) to fix, it is not.. trust me
[13:02] <Emanon> Not the rom FROM cwm. CWM itself.
[13:03] <gac> I said "I hold the garage responsible", I believe, not that it was without doubt their responsibility
[13:03] <Eagleman> Do i need a specific order when installing these packets?  apt-get install mysql-server php5 php5-mysql php5-mcrypt php5-gd php5-intl apache2 libapache2-mod-php5
[13:03] <KM0201> gac: ah ok, i might have misread that....
[13:05] <Emanon> Looks like there is no twrp for that device.
[13:06] <Emanon> Bummer.
[13:06] <simpleirc> high
[13:06] <bipul> I want's to know is there anyway to create and use any tcp client or server outside of ns-2 in ubuntu
[13:06] <KM0201> lol
[13:08] <arshavin> Emanon: thanks for help anyway,i will dig up something
[13:09] <Emanon> Have you tried asking at xda?
[13:09] <arshavin> Emanon: looks like that is where i will end up
[13:10] <Emanon> I've had some good luck there with my Skyrocket.
[13:11] <ElysiumNet> ah screw it
[13:11] <Jancoover> msg NickServ identify passme
[13:11] <ElysiumNet> *installs it to all the things*
[13:11] <arshavin> Emanon: they have a thread for this device and have dedicated lot for it,hopefully that will help
[13:12] <qwery> hey guys
[13:13] <qwery> i want to set up a http server locally and stream all my audio output to it, so i can listen to it with my network hifi device
[13:13] <qwery> read some blog articles about doing that with vlc, for example, but it didnt quite work..
[13:13] <KM0201> hm
[13:13] <qwery> any ideas how that can be done "easily"?
[13:14] <KM0201> would a daap server work?
[13:14] <moin> nick moin''
[13:14] <Emanon> qwery: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp ?
[13:14] <moin> \nick moin''
[13:14] <qwery> seems tht ffmpeg has some streaming capabilities, but it always looks like it streams to an existing server in the network or something, wondering how that works
[13:14] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: First, why an http server?  Second, do you want to stream TO the server or FROM the server?
[13:14] <KM0201> oh damnn, subsonic, that should work fine
[13:16] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: Do you want an audio stream programmed at the server, or do you want your music collection to be available from other devices?
[13:16] <qwery> KM0201: i think daap (and also dlna) would only work for files. but i also want to stream other audio output, like sound from a internet radio website or such
[13:16] <KM0201> qwery: yup, you're right,
[13:16] <Emanon> If you donate you get a subsonic url so you don't have to worry about making a static ip or forwarding ports (iirc) and you can stream audio AND video.
[13:16] <KM0201> subsonic is probably the best bet,
[13:16] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: not only the music collection, but all audio output. thats what makes a http server necessary i guess
[13:17] <KM0201> although i don't know about audio from a website, etc
[13:17] <qwery> how does subsonic work?
[13:17] <`ssh`help> hi, how does one setup ssh for a public IP? I have it working within my LAN but no luck with public IPs.
[13:17] <Emanon> qwery: sets up a local server that streams your whole media library via apps or an html interface.
[13:17] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: http has nothing to do with audio.
[13:18] <Emanon> The link I sent explains it.
[13:18] <Boreeas_> I am trying to troubleshoot my laptops (Dell Vostro 3700) hibernation mode. It appears to save correctly, but fails to resume, saying it doesn't find the hibernation image: http://pastebin.com/8RCNmWjV
[13:18] <KM0201> `ssh`help: what do you mean for a public IP?
[13:18] <jhutchins_wk> `ssh`help: The device with a public ip has to have the ssh server listening on that interface.
[13:18] <qwery> Emanon: wouldnt that also only stream the files?
[13:18] <Boreeas_> It worked fine before, but since the last reinstall, I'm having trouble
[13:18] <gac> `ssh`help: all you need to do is forward port 22 on your router (using the router admin tools) to the LAN IP address of the machine running sshd
[13:19] <KM0201> yeah, i think it's port 21 or 22
[13:19] <jhutchins_wk> `ssh`help: Most of us are behind NAT firewalls, so we forward a port on the firewall to the internal ssh connection.
[13:19] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: yeah, but i can get my hifi to read an http stream and play it
[13:19] <Boreeas_> I think related to that is that suspend/resume fails, too, but I can't find any logs for that
[13:19] <Eagleman> Do i need a specific order when installing these packets?  apt-get install mysql-server php5 php5-mysql php5-mcrypt php5-gd php5-intl apache2 libapache2-mod-php5
[13:19] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: No, you can't, because there is no http stream.  http is web pages, that's all.
[13:19] <Boreeas_> Eagleman: No, the order doesn't matter
[13:19] <KM0201> no, just install them all at the same time.
[13:19] <gac> Eagleman: I don't think so, apt should take care of installing them in the right order to satisfy any dependencies
[13:19] <Boreeas_> Dependencies will be installed automatically, too
[13:19] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: so if i could manage to have my computers audio in such a stream, it would work
[13:19] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, are you able to change a guest session into a root session?
[13:19] <WeThePeople> so i can access home
[13:20] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: http is a transfer protocol for files, not only html
[13:20] <gac> WeThePeople: probably not, as I guess the guest user isn't in the admin/sudo group by default
[13:20] <Eagleman> and what if i install php first then apache and mysql or any other random order?
[13:20] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: I think gstreamer will host an audio stream, as will vlc.
[13:20] <gac> Eagleman: shouldn't make any difference
[13:20] <Eagleman> not in the same command i mean
[13:20] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: Right, files, not streams.
[13:20] <Eagleman> seperate
[13:20] <gac> still shouldn't matter
[13:20] <Eagleman> ok, ty
[13:20] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: Pages, not audio.
[13:21] <`ssh`help> gac: ok, I a using my modem connection. how do i do that?
[13:21] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: well, but that doesnt really matter for that application, right? it is just that i confused the terms, isnt it?
[13:21] <jhutchins_wk> qwery: You can use a web page to initiate a stream over another transport, but it's not over http.
[13:21] <gac> `ssh`help: as in a dialup connection?
[13:22] <`ssh`help> jhutchins_wk: Both computers have the open-ssh-server installed,
[13:22] <`ssh`help> gac: yea
[13:22] <KM0201> lol
[13:22] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: ah, i see.
[13:22] <`ssh`help> gac: kindly help bro,
[13:22] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: how would it work with gstreamer/vlc?
[13:22] <gac> `ssh`help: honestly, I have no idea, I haven't used a dialup in over 10 years
[13:22] <jhutchins_wk> `ssh`help: What are you actually trying to do?  What commands have you tried?
[13:23] <gac> `ssh`help: but I think once you have the dialup connection established, you may need to restart the ssh server so that it can bind to the dialup IP (because it wouldn't have existed when ssh was started)
[13:23] <sazawal> I need to install ubuntu from network. Please help!
[13:23] <gac> and with a dialup connection, you probably don't have NAT in the way so that should be enough (I think)
[13:24] <jhutchins_wk> sazawal: Have you read the install guide?
[13:24] <sazawal> I have followed the instructions given here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[13:24] <qwery> i tried http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo/Easy_Streaming_Newer_Versions and http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo/Command_Line_Examples#HTTP_streaming, didnt work for some reason
[13:24] <sazawal> I guess this is the install guide
[13:24] <WeThePeople> anybody know how to gain root access in a guest session?
[13:25] <qwery> for the second, the file was accessible with my smartphone, but it said "cannot play video/audio" or smth
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  you're asking to give the secret code to a visitor
[13:28] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, yeah.. why not, so whats the secret
[13:30] <Emanon> Much better being back on Pidgin.
[13:30] <dryhay> hi. webcam problem unsolved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2101000
[13:31] <sazawal> I need to install ubuntu with networkboot, please help
[13:33] <iceroot> sazawal: you mean with PAX? or with a normal netinstaller?
[13:34] <sazawal> ice, with PXE as provided in this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[13:34] <Matt_> Hey guys
[13:34] <Guest84357> Dam
[13:35]  * KM0201 has never gotten network boot to boot right.
[13:35] <nahuel_> please i need the dir of spanish chanel, thanks
[13:35] <KM0201> !es
[13:36] <Guest84357> What does it mean, if everytime I press the Dash Home part of Ubuntu 12.10, it crashes.
[13:36] <Guest84357> Are there any known fixes? I found some people with similar issues, but no real answers.
[13:37] <KM0201> i found 12.10 really buggy, so i chose to stay w/ 12.04
[13:37] <Guest84357> Probably smart, I really like it though
[13:38] <tozen> KM0201: 12.10 isnt LTS
[13:38] <blueoil22> ciao
[13:38] <KM0201> tozen: i never suggested it was
[13:39] <SpaceA> hello, I am running 12.04 on my macbook pro 6,2. Everytime I shutdown i get a popping noise from my speakers. Any ideas how to stop that?
[13:44] <zetheroo> I installed 12.10 on a Windows 7 workstation but for some reason GRUB does not show on system startup and the system boots right into Windows 7 still
[13:44] <magik_> SpaceA, you might wanna post that bug on the forum cause it could cause some speaker problems.
[13:44] <zetheroo> can I install GRUB from the live CD?
[13:44] <sazawal> I need to install ubuntu from networkboot. Help!!
[13:44] <nibbler__> SpaceA, a workaround might be to write a script that sets volume to zero early during shutdown....
[13:45] <SpaceA> nibbler__, I tried muting before shutdown but that doesnt work :/
[13:45] <SpaceA> any other way to try it?
[13:45] <KM0201> nibbler__: but then won't volume be 0 when he restarts?
[13:45] <magik_> zetheroo, this video helped me allot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W7XYAB4cLc
[13:46] <nibbler__> KM0201, that would call for a startup script then - but its not working anyway
[13:46] <SpaceA> KM0201, i dont mind it being zero at boot
[13:46] <magik_> zetheroo, follow that video step by step and you won't have any problems and you will have a real ext4 filesystem
[13:47] <nashant> anyone able to tell me how to use mkvmerge to identify what language audio tracks are in?
[13:47] <zetheroo> magik_: I have been using Ubuntu since 2006 and have installed it hundreds of times on a myriad of machines ... so I know how to install it ;)
[13:48] <magik_> zetheroo, then im clueless lol ;)
[13:48] <zetheroo> magik_: the issue here is that GRUB does not seem to have installed along with Ubuntu ...
[13:50] <magik_> hmm that's wierd
[13:50] <magik_> zetheroo, I've had that happen before but only when I was a real newb and used wubi till I found the video,  I have seen on forums before links on a grub disc
[13:52] <tozen> hi people! here's one of my friends asking me about how to recreate root account? he's deleted it mistakenly. thb how he did it i dont know but here is hims cat /etc/passwd & cat /etc/group: http://pastebin.com/xJZeB3rD
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> tozen  there is no root account, there's sudo
[13:53] <wuq> I am having a connectivity issue. somehow my OS wont recognize and work with my router. am I in the right place?
[13:53] <wuq> anyone here able to help with a troubleshoot?
[13:53] <magik_> Wug, what OS do you have?
[13:54] <magik_> I'm sorry wuq
[13:54] <wuq> im using bodhi, and have already tried the bodhi forums without any luck
[13:55] <magik_> sorry wuq i'm only familiar with Ubuntu ;( and Windows
[13:55] <tozen> MonkeyDust: well hi's can't login system
[13:55] <Sail> i use add:apt command to add something after this when i am apt-get update it show me error "some index failed to download"how to fix this
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> wuq  some 50 people in #bodhilinux
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:55] <wuq> ah, bodhi is meant to be ubuntu based. is it too different?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> tozen  what you tried before you came here?
[13:56] <wuq> yeah, honoestly, nobody there seems to be able to help. I have already trie
[13:56] <magik_> they are all similar but commands can be a little different sometimes.
[13:56] <suku> wuq, are you able to connect to any other networks?
[13:56] <sazawal> I need to install Ubuntu via networkboot, please help
[13:57] <suku> are you receiving an ip?
[13:57] <tozen> MonkeyDust: nothing! it's not mine system i'm not an idiot to smth like that. here my friend just asking to me to how to sortitout
[13:57] <greenbrother> HI, I have problem with bluetooth browsing. I'm with Xubuntu 12.10 and I beleave, that is bug
[13:57] <greenbrother> can anyone help me?
[13:57] <magik_> sazawal, why not save the trouble and install with usb?
[13:57] <wuq> so the details are here, I posted it on the bodhi forums. http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/7392-unable-to-connect-to-internet-through-my-router/
[13:57] <FLeiXiuS> For isolinux, how can I remove the function menus at the bottom of the installer?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> tozen  explain what goes wrong, in one line and in the channel
[13:57] <sazawal> Thats the trouble, My PC doesnt have USB boot option
[13:58] <magik_> greenbrother, it could be the bluetooth device your using is not compatible.
[13:58] <greenbrother> i can use it but only for sending files
[13:58] <greenbrother> when i want to browse, then kome the problem
[13:58] <tozen> MonkeyDust: well his cant login system, what else you want to know?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !details | tozen
[13:59] <magik_> greenbrother, Have you tried using ssh instead?
[13:59] <suku> wuq, are you spoofing your mac address by chance?
[13:59] <greenbrother> i don't know what is that
[13:59] <wuq> what does that mean? spoofing
[14:00] <wuq> you mean, is it the real one?
[14:00] <magik_> he meant if your using macchanger or not
[14:00] <mikew68> I'm looking for help with setting up a DLNA media server, is this the proper place?
[14:00] <wuq> no, i dont knwo what that is. so i dont think i am using it
[14:00] <magik_> greenbrother, openssh is a remote access tool
[14:01] <greenbrother> how can i that try?
[14:01] <arshavin> mikew68: there must be loads of imformation about that on google
[14:01] <suku> wuq, from the thread i was looking at, is the network card in bohdi configured for dhcp or are you assigning it a static ip?
[14:02] <wuq> it is set to autoatic dhcp
[14:02] <mikew68> arshavin, you are correct and I've looked unfortunatly I've had very little success, so I figure maybe someone has seen/experienced my issues.
[14:02] <magik_> greenbrother, here is a link with help on openssh https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[14:02] <wuq> i think, let me check that
[14:02] <greenbrother> 10x
[14:03] <arshavin> mikew68: what device do you wish to set up as server?
[14:03] <layke_> Not sure what channel to ask. Is there something like tail -f but that flashes through coloring new additions to the pipe?
[14:03] <magik_> greenbrother, if you just wanted to setup a simpler file server then you could use vsftpd
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> layke_  #bash
[14:03] <layke_> Thanks MonkeyDust  :)
[14:03] <wuq> yeah magik_ it is set to auto dhcp. it is frustratign because i bet it is some really simple issue. I am slightly newb with linux
[14:03] <greenbrother> no
[14:03] <greenbrother> i don't want server
[14:03] <magik_> greenbrother, and you could access that vsftpd through any http webbrowser.
[14:03] <Pici> layke_: multitail *might* have something like that.
[14:04] <greenbrother> i want brows on my mobile phone vie bluetooth
[14:04] <greenbrother> i want brows on my mobile phone via bluetooth
[14:04] <mikew68> I'd like to run a media server in 12.10, and stream through DLNA to my blu-ray. I've tried XBMC, it connects but does not play .AVI files, so I set up PLEX, it plays the .AVI files but doesn't play .mp4
[14:04] <ichat> blami,  - sorry was afk for a bit,   thnx for the heads up ... i really should try it i gues..   win8 toshiba is supposed to be  full efi.   so not having legacy in my loader would be perfect i guess
[14:04] <greenbrother> but it have some bug
[14:04] <wuq> i actually tried a few other distros and had similar problems when i used my router
[14:04] <greenbrother> this is only on 12.10
[14:05] <wuq> but router works fine on my other computer that runs Win7
[14:05] <layke_> Pici, It's not in the feature list. so I don't think so. Thanks for the pointer though.
[14:05] <magik_> greenbrother, your best bet is to post a bug on the ubuntu forums there are allot of people there that are very smart and will answer your question in more detail.
[14:05] <suku> wuq, has that computer ever worked with that router?
[14:05] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: The OS has nothing to do with how a system works with a router, that's strictly TCP/IP.
[14:05] <suku> or any router for that matter?
[14:06] <greenbrother> many peaple have that maked, but i can't fint fix
[14:06] <wuq> i belive it did, before it was running windows millinum and i recall it working.
[14:06] <mikew68> arshavin I'd like to run a media server in 12.10, and stream through DLNA to my blu-ray. I've tried XBMC, it connects but does not play .AVI files, so I set up PLEX, it plays the .AVI files but doesn't play .mp4
[14:07] <arshavin> mikew68: http://dpc.ucore.info/blog/2012/11/07/dlna-streaming-in-ubuntu-12-dot-10/
[14:07] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: So what is the problem?  Can you not reach external addresses?
[14:07] <magik_> greenbrother, it might be the access settings you have on the folder your trying to browse.
[14:07] <suku> wuq, since you are able to get the computer to work when bypassing the router, i would assume it is a router issue and not an os issue
[14:08] <wuq> hm, i see, i kind f thought it was an issue to do with the way i did the settings
[14:08] <greenbrother> i have maked all settings and it should work, but...
[14:08] <greenbrother> i haven't luck
[14:08] <suku> wuq, just so i make sure i read your post correctly, you have tried plugging the system into the router over an ethernet cable and it doesnt work either?
[14:08] <wuq> why would the router not recognize the OS, for example?
[14:09] <wuq> yes
[14:09] <ichat> Wug,  the router doesn know the os
[14:09] <wuq> and thank you for looking at the post suku
[14:09] <suku> wuq, the router and os are independent of each other... a router doesnt detect os's
[14:10] <suku> they communicate over the tcp/ip stack
[14:10] <wuq> so are saying that it may be having trouble detecting my network card/
[14:10] <ichat> wuq. correct
[14:10] <suku> and since you are able to connect when you take the router out of the picture, it tells me that it is likely a router or network card issue
[14:11] <ichat> that could be a media error (sorry: a cable fault),   or some other technical issue
[14:11] <magik_> wuq, you could always try to hard boot your router see if that works.
[14:11] <wuq> my computer is very old, almost 11 years-ish. is this a common issue I wonder - old network cards not work with new routers
[14:12] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: No.
[14:12] <wuq> magik_ could you explain hard boot
[14:12] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: If the cables fit they should work.
[14:12] <magik_> wuq, when i say hard boot, I mean follow the instructions on doing a reset of the router usualy involves sticking a paperclip in a little hole it resets all the router settings to factory default.
[14:12] <magik_> wuq, I've had to do that with routers in the past.
[14:12] <suku> wuq, he means either pulling the plug on the router and letting it sit for 2 mins, or even more of a hard boot would be completely resetting the factory settings on the router
[14:13] <wuq> ah, yeah I have done that before but I have not tried it for this problem yet.
[14:13] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: If you do what magik_ suggests you will probably loose all ability to connect to the internet from any of your systems.
[14:13] <ichat> magik what about  a data problem   in example  100mbit versus 10mbit   or even full duplex versus half duplex
[14:13] <wuq> why you say that jhutchins?
[14:13] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: You need to do basic network troubleshooting before you start messing with the router.
[14:14] <wuq> hm, for example?
[14:14] <ichat> magik  i would explain it to him, but i have no knowledge about  hoe to detect sutch under a linux os
[14:14] <rom> hi, guys.
[14:15] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: Can you state the actual problem again please?  You can't connect to external web sites or what?
[14:15] <magik_> wuq, one question i should of asked is this is a wireless router or just a ethernet cable?
[14:15] <wuq> it is outlined here http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/7392-unable-to-connect-to-internet-through-my-router/
[14:15] <suku> wuq, and if you need specific answers specific to bodhi, you can also check out #bodhilinux
[14:15] <ichat> jhutchins_wk,   agreed  but only to the extend that a hard reboot  of the router defualts to dhcp in almost all cases   so he would   be able to connect for support as soon as the device has reset....
[14:15] <wuq> thanks suku, yes i have tried there but no luck so far
[14:16] <rom> what happens when i reinstall ubuntu with a live cd, only the main partition gets formatted or all the partitions get formatted?
[14:16] <wuq> magik_ the router has wireless capabilities but i am using an ethernet cable
[14:16] <Squarepy> rom, that is your choice
[14:17] <magik_> wuq, hmmm ok, I think that might be a network card problem so it might not be the router at all.
[14:17] <suku> wuq, if it is any consolation, i am running bodhi on my netbook... great distro for lightweight machines - i honestly think it is a networking issue somewhere between the router and network config
[14:17] <jhutchins_wk> ichat: He would loose any local lan configuration.
[14:17] <ichat> jhutchins_wk,  only for a small bit
[14:17] <rom> so if i dont want to format other partitions, i dont have to, is that so?
[14:18] <wuq> yeah, it runs amazing on my old laptop. i dont remember it ever working so smooth. i only have a small graphic issue and this connectivity issue
[14:18] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: When you connect directly to the external network, there is a remote DHCP server that provides your system with an address and routing info.  You must recreate that on the local network either using the router or a local server.
[14:18] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: Most routers have a dhcp server built in these days.
[14:18] <ichat> jhutchins_wk,  - there are no consumer grade modem routers out there that do not default do simple dhcp + nat
[14:18] <rom> even if it is previously made partitions?
[14:18] <jhutchins_wk> ichat: Sure there are.
[14:19] <donvito> VERSION=`cat /etc/slackware-version` - how can i do this command to show ubuntu version ?
[14:19] <ichat> jhutchins_wk,  name me one
[14:19] <magik_> rom I would advise you backed up any data before proceeding with any format
[14:20] <piglit> i have got a ip-camera and i can use it from 2 pc's but the ubuntu pc wont work
[14:20] <wuq> ok, so what kind of network troubleshooting are you guys suggesting
[14:20] <piglit> dont know where to start
[14:20] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: Here is the manual for your router: https://www2.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en&pid=f5d8236-4&aid=14394&scid=942&fid=4812&fn=man_f5d8236-4_8820-00097.pdf
[14:20] <magik_> wuq, start with the network card since your notconnecting wirelessly
[14:20] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: You need to know if the PC is getting an address from the router.
[14:20] <rom> it is too hard for me to do that, because it takes too much time and have a lot to. and it is hard with all this power cuts in my place..
[14:20] <wuq> ok, how do i do that
[14:21] <usr13> wuq: ifconfig
[14:21] <donvito> VERSION=`cat /etc/slackware-version` - how can i edit this command to show ubuntu version ?
[14:21] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: use the ifconfig command to see if there is an eth0 with an IP address.
[14:21] <wuq> ok, ive done that
[14:21] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: And?
[14:21] <usr13> wuq: So, what IP did you get?
[14:21] <dawkirst> Hi, I've got all these weird duplicate files postfixed with ~. What are these?
[14:21] <Squarepy> dawkirst, gedit?
[14:21] <piglit> is there a way to reset the whole network setting for ubuntu ?
[14:22] <magik_> dawkirst, those are probably gedit backup files it has a setting to save files before a save so you still have the old version to go back to.
[14:22] <wuq> you mean this line "inet addr:10.24.8.129 Bcast:10.24.11.255 Mask:255.255.252.0" ???
[14:22] <veleno> hello. i'm installing and configuring a 12.04lts into a virtualbox's VM. once this is done, how hard is it to turn it into a 'live-cd' ?
[14:23] <rom> i have previously made 3 partitions, one for ubuntu main disk, another for additional memory. one other for windows(ntfs)
[14:23] <wuq> i got a bunch of info but I am not sure what part is relevant
[14:23] <usr13> wuq: Can you ping 10.24.8.129 ?  (That is more-than-likely your router.)  Try it:  ping -c3 10.24.8.129
[14:23] <usr13> wuq: Can you ping 10.24.8.1 ?  (That is more-than-likely your router.)  Try it:  ping -c3 10.24.8.1
[14:23] <suku> usr13, wouldnt that be he own ip?
[14:23] <wuq> how do i ping that?
[14:23] <suku> his*
[14:23] <rom> i have done a backup for the ubuntu main desk, do i have to do it for all the other?
[14:24] <usr13> wuq: Sorry, 10.24.8.1 is YOUR IP.
[14:24] <wuq> ah! lol
[14:24] <magik_> rom, Yes because if something goes wrong you'll run into trouble getting that data back unless your good at recovering files.
[14:24] <usr13> wuq: ping -c3 10.24.8.1
[14:24] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: Now use the route command to see if there is a default gateway.
[14:24] <veleno> for instance, I found this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but it looks pretty lengthy
[14:24] <wuq> as in type "route" into terminal?
[14:24] <usr13> wuq: route -n
[14:24] <magik_> yeah
[14:25] <nickalex> enzotib offende chi non e capace e non so come fare elp
[14:25] <usr13> wuq: (See what your gateway is) Should be 10.24.8.1
[14:25] <karmic-koala> hi all, anyone got any suggestions on what address would be sensible for a staging server? currently we have  cms-staging.universityname.ac.uk which isnt ideal. I am thinking cms-auth.universityname.ac.uk ...?
 thanks, il try following that!
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> nickalex  is that some italian dialect?
[14:25] <wuq> no, it doesnt give me that
[14:25] <usr13> wuq: What does it give?
[14:26] <nickalex> mia butato fuori
[14:26] <suku> wuq, what does is say is the default route for gateway
[14:26] <wuq> just says "gateway genmask flags metric ref use iface
[14:26] <magik_> rom, np
[14:26] <suku> nothing underneath?
[14:26] <usr13> wuq: Try this:  dhclient
[14:26] <wuq> keep in mind that i did ifconfig when i wasnt using my router
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: There's your problem.
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: ifconfig just displays the settings.
[14:26] <usr13> wuq: Is this a wireless connection?  Or wired?
[14:27] <wuq> wired
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: If you want this to work with the router you should be connected with the router.
[14:27] <wuq> i am now
[14:27] <wuq> i was giving you info from before
[14:27] <suku> once connected do a "route -n"
[14:27] <usr13> wuq: dhclient eth0
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: Plug in to the router and do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:27] <magik_> usr13, he's using a wired connection
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> usr13: Quit jumping ahead.
[14:28] <wuq> usr13 im told operation not permited
[14:28] <usr13> sudo dhclient eth0
[14:28] <dawkirst> Squarepy, magik_, you guys got it. Thanks.
[14:28] <ichat> usr13,  -  network reset comes first.
[14:28] <usr13> suku: And then ifconfig  (and see what IP you got)
[14:28] <wuq> ok, did that Jhutch
[14:28] <magik_> dawkirst, your welcome ;)
[14:29] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: Do ifconfig again and see if you still have the same address, then do route again to see if you have a gateway.
[14:30] <wuq> ok i belive this is my address now. 127.0.0.1
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> that's localhost, your pc
[14:30] <suku> nope that is the localhost address
[14:30] <usr13> wuq: No, that is loopback
[14:30] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: That is for the lo (loopback) interface.
[14:31] <KM0201> usually its 192.168.x.x
[14:31] <usr13> wuq: Did you do  sudo dhclient eth0 ?
[14:31] <wuq> ok, then....im not getting one
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: If you do not see something like eth0 then you don't have a working connection.  Are the port lights lit on the PC and the router?
[14:31] <wuq> i see eth0 but no ip there
[14:32] <wuq> the green one is lit
[14:32] <usr13> wuq: Are you sure the cable is ok?
[14:32] <jhutchins_wk> usr13: Ok, I'm gonna have to let you try to stumble through this.  It's clear that you barely have a clue about networking, but you insist on "helping".  It's all yours.
[14:32] <mikew68> arshavin; thanks! that seems to work
[14:32] <wuq> i think so, i have tried more than one cable
[14:32] <jhutchins_wk> wuq: I'll come back later and see if an experienced network engineer can still help you.
[14:32] <wuq> aw : - /
[14:32] <usr13> jhutchins_wk: Just trying to help.  It's easier if you just cut to the chase.
[14:32] <wuq> stay, i will follow you
[14:33] <wuq> oh well, what your ideas usr13
[14:33] <magik_> lol
[14:33] <usr13> wuq: Sorry about jhuchins_wk  I think he just got up on the wrong side of the bed.
[14:33] <wuq> lol, was confusing trying to follow everyone
[14:33] <suku> sounds like either the dhcp server isnt handing out an ip or you dont have the network card set to auto/dhcp
[14:33] <usr13> wuq: Did you do   sudo  dhclient eth0
[14:33] <usr13> ?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> or sudo ifup
[14:34] <wuq> how would i set the network card? yes i did that and client was not found
[14:34] <usr13> wuq: dhclient not client     sudo dhclient eth0
[14:35] <wuq> oops, made spelling error
[14:35] <wuq> strange, when i typed that the cursor just blinks
[14:35] <wuq> what should it do?
[14:35] <usr13> wuq: It's waiting for an IP
[14:36] <usr13> wuq: It will time out.
[14:36] <usr13> ... if it doesnt' get an IP.
[14:36] <usr13> wuq: Did it time out yet?
[14:36] <wuq> no, shall i restart terminal?
[14:36] <usr13> no.  just open another.
[14:37] <wuq> ok
[14:37] <usr13> Shift-Ctrl-n
[14:37] <ichat> wuq,  what is going on on your other (now connected pc)
[14:38] <usr13> It sounds like the router does not have the DHCP server turned on.  So, do you know anything about your router?  What kind of router is it?
[14:38] <wuq> its what i am chatting on right now. it works fine, no problems
[14:38] <suku> i am curious of the other pc is receiving an ip via dhcp
[14:38] <suku> if*
[14:38] <ichat> Wuq is it on the same network?
[14:38] <usr13> wuq: Do you have a brand name?  or....?
[14:38] <ichat> suku me 2
[14:38] <wuq> the router is Belkin F5D8236-4 v3 4-Port Built-in Switch Wireless N Route
[14:38] <frooh> hey guys, I'm trying to build fitbitd (git clone http://paulburton.eu/git/fitbitd.git) and it's not finding dbus/dbus.h, I have libdbus-1-dev installed (found here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=dbus.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=quantal&arch=any)
[14:38] <frooh> is there something obvious I'm missing
[14:39] <ichat> usr13  it was mention earlier
[14:39] <wuq> i can get into the settings area but i am not very knowledgable about how to manipluate them
[14:39] <usr13> wuq: And you have connected to a LAN port on it.  Right?
[14:39] <wuq> yeah
[14:39] <ichat> wuq you mean from the router or your working pc?\
[14:39] <wuq> from my working pc i can manipluate the router
[14:40] <usr13> wuq: Are the other PCs getting IP addresses in the range of 192.168.1.x  or 192.168.2.x  or?
[14:40] <magik_> wuq, login to the router using the http://xxx.xxx.xx.xx and check the settings
[14:40] <jabba_> anyone familiar with the usage of pciback and pcifront in newer ubuntu releases like 12.04?
[14:40] <ichat> BTW verry important wuq dont ever  change anything and most certianly dont hit  save or   apply  ....
[14:40] <usr13> wuq: What IP do you use to loginto it?  192.168.1.1 ?
[14:40] <wuq> but when i see the settings, my linux installed pc does nto show up
[14:40] <wuq> ok logging in]
[14:41] <usr13> wuq: What is the IP address of your router?  Is it 192.168.1.1 ?
[14:41] <suku> wuq, here is a way we can make sure your router is setup for dhcp.... you said the computer you are on is windows, right? open a command prompt and type "ipconfig /all". go to the network card that has the connection and let me know what it says next to DHCP server
[14:41] <wuq>  	192.168.2.1
[14:41] <usr13> wuq: Ok, on our Ubuntu PC type this:  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.91
[14:42] <usr13> wuq: Now this:  ping -c3 192.168.2.1
[14:42] <magik_> wuq, so 192.168.2.1 is for the router and your working computer is 192.168.2.2 or 3 or 4 right?
[14:43] <wuq> ping is unreachable
[14:43] <usr13> wuq: ifconfig    Tell us what IP it has.
[14:44] <usr13> wuq: verify that it actually has  192.168.2.91  as it's IP.
[14:44] <magik_> usr13, I think he said it was 192.168.2.1
[14:44] <suku> usr13, if we just change his ip to the same subnet, we will still need to setup the routes... wouldnt it be easier to find out if his router is even running dhcp so he can bypass having to do that?
[14:44] <usr13> magik_: No he didn't
[14:44] <wuq> yes, i belive that is right magik_ --- also suku DHCP is enabled
[14:45] <suku> Wug, what is the dhcp server ip address?
[14:45] <wuq> i mean, regarding my ips addresses
[14:45] <magik_> wuq, ok now open a browser on the working computer and type http://192.168.2.1
[14:45] <ichat> suku,  - do you know how to set media to 10mbit  non auto negotiate  half duplex on  linux
[14:45] <usr13> suku: the dhcp server's IP is 192.168.2.1
[14:46] <wuq> yes, i am already there magik
[14:46] <usr13> suku: But he either has a bad cable or is plugged into a dead port.
[14:46] <suku> usr13, assuming the dhcp server on the router is running
[14:46] <magik_> ok what does it say for dhcp server?
[14:46] <usr13> suku: I was trying to determine that.
[14:46] <magik_> should be somewhere in the settings.
[14:46] <wuq> enabled
[14:46] <usr13> wuq: You need to try another cable.
[14:46] <suku> thats why i had him check on his windows box where it gives the address of the dhcp server - that would confirm if the dhcp server is running
[14:47] <magik_> Try a different ethernet cable if that does not work you need a new network card.
[14:47] <usr13> wuq: What does it say the dhcp pool is?  192.168.2.1 -  192.168.2.100 ?
[14:47] <wuq> but this cable works fine when i plug directly into the wall
[14:47] <usr13> wuq: "into the wall"?
[14:47] <suku> wuq, have you also tried using a different port on the router, or even better, have you tried using the exact port that your windows computer is on?
[14:47] <magik_> usr13, he meant the cable modem itself
[14:47] <wuq> as in, without using the router i can connect with no problem
[14:47] <usr13> Oh
[14:48] <wuq> yes, tried vall ports
[14:48] <wuq> the DHCP pool is 2-100
[14:48] <usr13> sorry I don't know what a vall poort is.
[14:48] <wuq> i meant, tried all ports
[14:48] <magik_> ok wuq if you know how to do a hard reset try that if that don't work then you should get a new network card or a wireless adapter and connect that way.
[14:48] <wuq> sorry, i have a sticky keyboard. it sucks, i spilled tea all over y good one
[14:49] <ichat> magic hang on
[14:49] <suku> you sure you didnt spill it on the router or network card too?
[14:49] <wuq> ok, i might hold off on hard reset because i need to find my router info.
[14:49] <suku> ;-)
[14:49] <usr13> wuq: Yea, you might try restarting the router.
[14:49] <wuq> lol!!! suku
[14:49] <wuq> no, it was on an external keyboard
[14:49] <usr13> wuq: unplug the power cord  for a couple seconds.
[14:49] <suku> usr13, he already tried that
[14:50] <wuq> to the router? i have tried that but i can try again
[14:50] <wuq> iver tried a few times though
[14:50] <magik_> It's gotta be the eth0 adapter giving the problems.
[14:50] <wuq> tell me this - if network card works fine without router, then it cant be a problem with network card right?
[14:50] <usr13> wuq: It may be that your network interface is defective.
[14:50] <magik_> the network card installed on the pc
[14:50] <suku> wuq, the only thing i think is a last resort would be to do a factory reset on the router - if that doesnt work then it is possible it is a bad nic
[14:51] <wuq> aw : - /
[14:51] <usr13> I say it's a bad NIC
[14:51] <wuq> not really worth investing in the pc, its so old....
[14:51] <ichat> wuq a last  time to did confirm your pc workin correctly on the wall  right?
[14:51] <magik_> I say it probably needs a factory reset
[14:51] <usr13> wuq: Do you have another NIC you can stick in it?
[14:51] <wuq> yes, it definitely works when plugged into wall
[14:51] <suku> try the factory reset on the router first
[14:52] <wuq> no usr13
[14:52] <usr13> wuq: Oh wait.  It works when you bypass the router?
[14:52] <wuq> yes
[14:52] <iceroot> wuq: i had a case where i was using a nic which was set to 1gbit/s and no other modes and the router (switch inside the router, could only handle 100mbit/s) that caused a defunctional network for me
[14:52] <usr13> forgot that.  Very strange.
[14:52] <wuq> works easy withotu router but i need router for my other pc
[14:52] <wuq> otherwise i woudl just plug into wall
[14:52] <usr13> wuq: Did you try  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.91;ping -c3 192.168.2.1
[14:52] <usr13> ?
[14:53] <wuq> yes, tried that
[14:53] <wuq> let me try again though to be sure, maybe spellign error
[14:53] <usr13> Yea, try again.
[14:53] <ichat> iceroot,  - thats exactly what im thinkin about... BUT  how the ef do you set this on linux
[14:53] <iceroot> wuq: that command will not work because no subnet is set, you have to use 192.168.2.91/24 or set the network too with a subnet command
[14:54] <iceroot> ichat: it was set in the bios, some strange propritary stuff
[14:54] <wuq> i dont really understand what your saying iceroot. can you spell out the steps i need to take to figure out what your saying and if it applies
[14:54] <usr13> iceroot: It works.  YOu don't need to set netmask
[14:55] <iceroot> usr13: and how does the system knows which netmask?
[14:55] <Guest30424> Hey
[14:55] <ichat> iceroot - agreed but for example in windows you can set  auto negotiate... and full or half duplex including  its raete
[14:55] <magik_> Well sorry I couldn't help you wuq I've had problems with router's usualy a hard reset did the fix for me.
[14:55] <ichat> however i do not know how to do this on a linux host
[14:56] <suku> ichat, ive got a link for you
[14:56] <suku> one sec
[14:57] <suku> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-the-speed-and-duplex-settings-of-an-ethernet-card/
[14:57] <ichat> suku,  ty... im not verry used to managing linux yet...
[14:57] <wuq> i tried the ifconfig stuff again but just get unreachable
[14:57] <iceroot> ichat: ethtool -s eth0 autoneg on
[14:57] <magik_> ichat, you'll get used to it and never want to use Windows again besideds for games and for shits and giggles.
[14:57] <wuq> thanks for the try guys. I think i will take a break with this and try a hard reset later.
[14:58] <suku> wuq, good luck
[14:58] <usr13> sorry, on the phone.
[14:58] <usr13> busy...
[14:58] <ichat> magic - im already that far ...  lol my new laptop  isnt even dual boot any more.. but helping wuq with network trouble shoutting is hared if your not  familiar with all the commands yet :P
[14:59] <AyushD> Hello
[14:59] <frooh> anyone know how I can make gdm let me log in twice?
[14:59] <iceroot> frooh: i guess only with a second x-server
[15:00] <magik_> ichat, yes commands get to be a pain in the butt to remember I have allot of them saved in text files lol,  I still dual boot with Windows 7 just so I can play star trek online once in awhile.
[15:00] <AyushD> anyone know how will ubuntu will work on Android Tab ?
[15:00] <frooh> iceroot: sorry, I'm being unclear, I'm logged in from the terminal first and it's saying I can't log in from X
[15:00] <frooh> presumably because the ternminal (tmux) was spawned from a now dead x server
[15:01] <magik_> AyushD, I wouldn't recommend it because you will probably won't beable to get a GUI
[15:02] <ichat> suku thnaks for the link ill  bookmark it
[15:02] <AyushD> Oh.. i saw
[15:02] <AyushD> some tutorials on net.
[15:02] <suku> ichat, np
[15:02] <AyushD> is it not possible to replace android with ubuntu
[15:02] <AyushD> coz i dont like andorid for tab its very limited
[15:03] <ichat> magik its verry frustrating at times, being a network tech... and not knowking stuf like hot to change your network settings  anyjmore...     hell i didn even know the  route -n  thing... verry usefull
[15:03] <LambdaMutt_> I have a System76 netbook with a very small screen. Any idea how to 'scroll' a dialog box that doesn't fit on the screen? If I 'move' it, it stops at the dock at the top of the screen.
[15:03] <Robbilie> AyushD, on some devices replacing is possible
[15:04] <iceroot> LambdaMutt_: alt + left-click, hold the mouse after that and move it with the mouse
[15:04] <AyushD> Device like?
[15:05] <LambdaMutt_> iceroot, ty: 'move' still results in dialog box not crossing the top panel boundry
[15:05] <iceroot> LambdaMutt_: hm, strange, working fine here on 12.04 unity
[15:06] <LambdaMutt_> This is the release 'just' before unity
[15:06] <LambdaMutt_> will try to reconfigure the panel to be at bottom of screen
[15:06] <iceroot> LambdaMutt_: 10.10?
[15:06] <KM0201> lol
[15:06] <LambdaMutt_> iceroot, sadly, I cannot find the 'about' dialog/.
[15:07] <iceroot> LambdaMutt_: cat /etc/issue
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> LambdaMutt_  lsb_release -sd
[15:07] <LambdaMutt_> iceroot, yes, 10.10
[15:08] <iceroot> !eol | LambdaMutt_
[15:08] <KM0201> !maverick | LambdaMutt_
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> LambdaMutt_  fastest, easiest and cleanest would be a fresh install -- backup first and consider creating a separate /home partition
[15:08] <larstk> hi all
[15:09] <ichat> LambdaMutt_,  - in other words  they advice you updating to  12.04 for a long term release or  12.10 for the latest and hotest
[15:10] <KM0201> the easiest thing to do (if you like gnome 2.x) would be to install ubuntu 12.04, then install mate desktop
[15:10] <KM0201> thats as close as you'll get to gnome 2.
[15:10] <LambdaMutt_> ichat, i'm familiar with eol. there are appropriate situations to inform a customer about eol : this isn't one of them
[15:10] <LambdaMutt_> not being a jerk -
[15:11] <iceroot> LambdaMutt_: this one is one of them "support ended" and this is the support channel
[15:11] <LambdaMutt_> I can see why Eliott left
[15:12] <KM0201> yeah, i stopped using Windows because I called MS for windows 3.x help, and they told me it was not supported.. hard to believe... so i left.. i sure showed them
[15:12] <larst> can somebody tell me if ubuntu 12.10 is better for ivy bridge (intel i7, intel HD4000 graphics, SSD etc.)?
[15:13] <DrHalan> hey guys. I use gnome-keyring to store my svn passwords (default in ubuntu). but they don't show up in seahorse. what am i doing wrong?
[15:14] <compdoc> larst, its easy enough to try and see. I have better luck with video cards on 12.04
[15:15] <ichat> larst im uing it on a  sandy  with  hd4000  if thats what your asking
[15:15] <larst> ichat: no wasnt my question
[15:16] <ichat> larst than do to us what is
[15:19]  * ichat sights 
[15:19] <jhutchins_wk> Wug: did you get it working?
[15:20] <ichat> jhutchins_wk,  nope  he didnt,
[15:20] <cousteau> so I installed electricsheep, isn't it supposed to appear on screensavers?
[15:20] <LambdaMutt_> iceroot, the last time I tried to Update, the box was unusable for weeks. I'm attempting to work around a minor problem with the UI. I understand you want to play the "next version" card.
[15:20] <DrHalan> okay nevermind. pasword was saved as "network password"
[15:20] <LambdaMutt_> I'm asking if you, or anyone, can help me find a quick, simple solution to a problem
[15:22] <LambdaMutt_> iceroot, please read the topic
[15:23] <LambdaMutt_> --- Looking up irc.ubuntu.com..
[15:23] <mega1> how do i limit user to 20g paace
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> LambdaMutt_  that's why you should consider a fresh install
[15:26] <ichat> jhutchins_wk,  - can i ask you a  rude offtopic question... just out of intrest... ?
[15:26] <bor3y> hi , please can i install opensuse on my ubuntu ??
[15:27] <ichat> bor3y sure,  just  hit the install    when inserted your cdrom / dvdrom
[15:28] <bor3y> ok but can u tell me how to do it ??
[15:29] <cousteau> I just installed a screensaver that already shows on /usr/lib/xscreensaver/ but it doesn't appear on Screensaver preferences.  Am I missing any step?
[15:29] <frostwong> is there any chinese?
[15:29] <ichat> bor3y  you should ask in  #opensuse  or where ever thair support chanel is
[15:30] <cousteau> !zh
[15:30] <cousteau> ...I wonder if I triggered the right one
[15:30] <frostwong> thank you
[15:30] <frostwong> bye
[15:30] <cousteau> you're welcome :)
[15:30] <Tashtego> hi. it seems my system freezes after some minutes of not doing anything. could be its the power management. i got an ssd hard disc, how can i deactivate acpi for that?
[15:30] <bor3y> ok  thank you
[15:31] <apricot> ich will "goober"  installieren.  Dazu ist ein Eintrag in sources.list nötig. Form: 'deb http://deb.goober.com/pkg release_name'  Frage: ist 'release_name' precise? uname -a -> Linux linux-2 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:31] <ichat> !de apricot,
[15:32] <invariant> How do I compile a mainline kernel on Ubuntu Precise without spending hours to write the script that does this?
[15:32] <ichat> !ge
[15:32] <apricot> oh sorry :)
[15:32] <ichat> ubottu - not mutch help either
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> For the screesaver issue,  this may help http://www.howtogeek.com/114027/how-to-add-screensavers-to-ubuntu-12.04/
[15:33] <invariant> There are some instructions (that seem out of date) on the wiki, but why don't these people just write a script that does what they say with English?
[15:33] <ichat> lame exuse for a bot
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Ichat: she's actually really handy
[15:34] <tjingboem> i want to add a program to the pythonpath. Is this correct?? export PYTHONPATH=/home/menno/bin/athenaCL/athenaCL
[15:34] <tjingboem> in .profile
[15:34] <imbezol> is there a way to make ls list files in the same order as other distros?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Tjingboem: i'd put it in ~/.bashrc
[15:35] <ichat> ActionParsnip,  is there a  list command   that doesnt  state the obvious about not being for fillsharing :P
[15:35] <imbezol> ie, folders first?
[15:35] <auronandace> ichat: list of what?
[15:35] <tjingboem> ActionParsnip, thanks, will try
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> IChat: well, this isn't a filesharing network,  so what else can she say?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Tjingboem: obviously,  you will need to source the file for it to be reread
[15:36] <ichat> ActionParsnip,  - all avail commands like how to use her propperly
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ! Brain | ichat
[15:36] <auronandace> !brain | ichat
[15:36] <tjingboem> is it export PYTHONPATH=/home/menno/bin/athenaCL/athenaCL or export PYTHONPATH="/home/menno/bin/athenaCL/athenaCL" ?
[15:37] <ichat> ah now thats  usefull :P - thanks
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Tjingboem: I believe it is single quotations
[15:37] <tjingboem> thanks again!
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Tjingboem: search the file for the word 'export' ;-)
 just put a new m/b + cpu + ram in
 and kept my HDD and ubuntu installation
 how do i update my drivers? 'o'
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: why do you need to update the drivers?
[15:39] <Cantide> Unity is running in Unity 2D
[15:39] <Cantide> and it's ugly :p
[15:39] <Cantide> i'm running 12.04 btw
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: were you using onboard video before?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: ehat
[15:39] <Cantide> no, i had an old nvidia card in here
[15:39] <Cantide> but i won't bother putting it in this board
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: what video chip are you using now?
[15:40] <Cantide> onboard..
[15:40] <Cantide> H61.. so..
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: what is the output of: lspci | grep -I vga
[15:41] <Cantide> nothing 'o'
[15:41] <Cantide> it outputs nothing -.-v
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: try: sudo lshw -C display    what is the product line for the video chip (s)
[15:42] <Cantide> Ivy Bridge
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: and no nvidia mentioned?
[15:43] <Cantide> It's Intel
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: good :-)
[15:43] <Cantide> Vendor: Intel Corporation
[15:43] <jhutchins_wk> Cantide: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:43] <jhutchins_wk> ActionParsnip: Upper case is "process binaries".
[15:44] <Cantide> oh, lower case i shows this:
[15:44] <Cantide> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:44] <auronandace> Cantide: ivy bridge is rather new
[15:44] <Cantide> auronandace, yeah.. but not _that_ new
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1995945
[15:45] <auronandace> Cantide: i'm not sure how much support for it is in 12.04
[15:45] <lacrymology> I'm trying to set up the nvidia drivers, I followed this http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html and running the nvidia xserver settings says "you're not using nvidia", I run nvidia-xconfig and it had to CREATE /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (so I gather ubuntu uses a different config file) and running the "additional drivers" application finds no propietary drivers in the system. Can someone lend me a hand?
[15:45] <Cantide> ActionParsnip, thanks. But I have H61, not Z77
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Jhutchins_wk: I just use what I know works :-)
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> Cantide: What I would guess is that you have the nvidia configuration still in place and that's preventing the proper intel driver from loading.  Try moving/renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:46] <Cantide> thanks, i will give it a shot
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: seems you need Quantal for support
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Jhutchins_wk: good point
[15:47] <ares_> I can't do anything with desktop!
[15:47] <Cantide> okay, so now i need to reboot i guess?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Ares_: can you give more details....
[15:47] <lotharn> is there a way to get unity to only display icons  for windows on it's respective screen ?
[15:48] <lotharn> in the taskbar
[15:48] <lotharn> in a multimon system
[15:49] <ares_> OOOOOooooo ActionParsnip Mr. cool dude! I can't select any icons on desktop all icons are invisible i can't see them and  i can't click mouse2 on desktop :[
[15:50] <lacrymology> can someone give me a hand with my nvidia drivers, please?
[15:50] <Cantide> hmm, still no luck..
[15:50] <DaemonicApathy> ares_: did you use gnome-tweak-tool or anything to stop the file manager from handling the desktop?
[15:51] <Roubles> I am installing ubuntu from mini.iso, and I am now facing a software selection menu like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/Nu44s.jpg
[15:51] <ares_> i tried to install it
[15:51] <ares_> but i don't have it
[15:51] <Roubles> I did this install before and selected ubuntu desktop, but when I restarted I found I had no desktop manager...
[15:52] <Roubles> What should I select here if I want a desktop environment?
[15:52] <DaemonicApathy> Roubles: anything that says "desktop" or "full" should work.
[15:52] <sazawal> I need to netboot my computer to install ubuntu, please help
[15:53] <exdev-2012> is it possible to speak to a channel op?
[15:53] <Roubles> DaemonicApathy: thanks.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Ares_: if you press Alt+F2 can you run nautilus ?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations
[15:53] <ares_> Yes
[15:54] <exdev-2012> ares_: that would be you?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Roubles: scroll down, you'll see the Ubuntu desktop option
[15:54] <ares_> exdev nope
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Ares_: nautilus draws the desktop icons
[15:55] <exdev-2012> okay - how would I go about doing that?
[15:56] <DaemonicApathy> ares_:Assuming you use compiz for wallpapers, nautilus will not put icons on the desktop, nor will right click work. If you are not using compiz wallpapers, you should be able to use gconf-editor to make sure /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop is enabled.
[15:56] <gandalf> irc://irc.theoccult.bz/#theoccult.bz
[15:57] <invariant> ActionParsnip, how can I build a git kernel on Ubuntu as a package?
[15:58] <Cantide> looks like i found a solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844354
[15:58] <Cantide> going to reboot again >.< wish me luck!
[15:58] <gandalf> irc://irc.theoccult.bz/#theoccult.bz
[15:58] <gandalf> irc://irc.theoccult.bz/#theoccult.bz
[15:58] <gandalf> irc://irc.theoccult.bz/#theoccult.bz
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Invariant: you can use checkinstall to make debs. You could try the kernel PPA but we cannot support unofficial kernels here
[15:58] <FloodBot1> gandalf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <alcaprawn> gandalf: soo lame :D
[15:59] <Redo> hi
[15:59] <alcaprawn> hello redo,
[15:59] <invariant> ActionParsnip, what Ubuntu patches might be of interest, if any?
[15:59] <ares_> I dont use compiz wallpapers
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Invariant: depends on needs and uses. The question is so vague it is near impossible to answer
[16:00] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:01] <Cantide> yay!! back in Unity 3D :)
[16:01] <sazawal> Mongolski`, I have followed the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot . Will it help?
[16:01] <Cantide> that link i posted worked for H61 :)
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: I find 2D faster. 3D isn't worth it imho
[16:01] <jhutchins_wk> Cantide: you usually don't need to reboot, just restart X.
[16:01] <Mongolski`> sazawal why you asked me?
[16:02] <ares_> who could help me through teamviewer
[16:02] <ares_> ? :(
[16:02] <jhutchins_wk> But ActionParsnip, JIGGLY WINDOWS!
[16:02] <sazawal> Mongolski`, oh sorry, not for you
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Jhutchins_wk: omg like titally worth it </sarcasm>
[16:02] <Mongolski`> :)
[16:03] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, I have followed the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot . Will it help?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Ares_: if you run s terminal and run: lsb_release -sc     what is output?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  the tutorials are reliable, so give it a try
[16:04] <ares_> output: precise
[16:04] <Cantide> ActionParsnip, those giant icons in the launcher scared me away from 2D, that's about it
[16:04] <Cantide> jhutchins_wk, I didn't think of restarting x... oops :)
[16:04] <Cantide> anyway, reboot is quick :)
[16:05] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, The problem is that, QuickNetboot tutorial doesnt talk about where to mount the iso file
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: you can change the size easily enough
[16:05] <Cantide> ActionParsnip, the settings seemed to disappear, anyway, the main reason was to get my PC running optimally and ensuring that I have the correct drivers installed
[16:07] <shpngld> Hello all! Im running ubuntu12.04. My harddrive is starting making errors. Which is the best way to make a backup of all drivers?
[16:08] <FigaroXXX> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[16:08] <FigaroXXX> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[16:08] <FloodBot1> FigaroXXX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <d_max> hey. i m using ubuntu 12.10. I am experiencing systems error messages a lot of times. is this common in 12.10
[16:08] <d_max> ?
[16:09] <shpngld> well? anybody knows how to make a backup of all my drivers under ubuntu21.4
[16:10] <shpngld> please help, i cant even start my pc
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Shpngld: how did you install them?
[16:11] <shpngld> ActionParsnip, well from ubuntu CD, WifI MANUALLY
[16:11] <invariant> ActionParsnip, it means: "does any Ubuntu application not work with a Vanilla kernel".
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> D_max: is it the same as a new ubuntu user?
[16:11] <jhutchins_wk> shpngld: Don't worry about the drivers, you can do a clean install.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Shpngld: do you use a cheap broadcom wifi?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Invariant: yes they all do.
[16:12] <shpngld> ActionParsnip,  yes i think so b43..its very hard to me to install it
[16:12] <shpngld> ActionParsnip,  I did it but i dont even remember how...Iam keeping the package
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Shpngld: the packages you need are on the install cd. If the system is a laptop,  just use a wired connection and get what you need
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Shpngld: broadcom are one of the easiest to setup
[16:14] <shpngld> ActionParsnip, well its not..its oldschool desktop but i do have LAN card
[16:14] <jhutchins_wk> shpngld: If you don't have a backup of the system and it can't read the HD well enough to boot you're probably too late.  You can try booting to a live CD like systemrescuecd, but it probably won't read the disk any better.
[16:14] <shpngld> ActionParsnip,  It wasnt at all for me....
[16:14] <mega1> in ubuntu server12.04 how do i limit a user to 20 gig
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Shpngld: the broadcom guide shows how to do it, step by step
[16:14] <shpngld> ActionParsnip,  for now its redaing it...but its gettin more often needed to restart
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Mega1: look into quota
[16:14] <jhutchins_wk> mega1: 20 gig of RAM?
[16:14] <ct529> Anyone who knows anything about the new Ubuntu Phone? I was wondering whether it would go on my mobile phone
[16:14] <shpngld> ActionParsnip, do u have a link for that ?
[16:15] <DJones> !phone | ct529
[16:15] <user82> hello. what exactly does the package "flamethrower" do?
[16:15] <ct529> DJones: thanks!
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> ct529  #ubuntu-phone
[16:15] <jhutchins_wk> ,info flamethrower
[16:15] <jhutchins_wk> !info flamethrower
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Mega1: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html
[16:16] <user82> jhutchins_wk, i could not decrypt the message..i read it already
[16:16] <ct529> I keep getting these warnings GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Two different plugins tried to register 'GDaemonVfs'.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !brosdcom | Shpngld
[16:16] <user82> but i do not know what it is needed/used for
[16:16] <ct529> Anyone who knows anything about them?
[16:16] <jhutchins_wk> user82: Then why worry about it?
[16:16] <zetheroo> in ubuntu how do you change the system language ... it's currently in English and it needs to be German
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[16:17] <user82> jhutchins_wk, it writes to my disk periodically (about 1-2s)..not very pretty on a notebook with a battery
[16:17] <ct529> they are followed by more worrying GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_add_interface_dynamic: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_INSTANTIATABLE (instance_type)' failed.
[16:17] <ct529> I ahve googled right and left, but could not find an answer
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Ct529: are there any bugs reported?
[16:17] <LambdaMutt>  iceroot: (or anyone) : The topic states that 10.04 is supported. Is this correct?
[16:17] <c0d3punch> yo
[16:17] <ct529> ActionParsnip: nope .... cannot even find references using google
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> LambdaMutt  server, until april
[16:17] <shpngld> ActionParsnip,  Awesome thanks, I will save the web page
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: desktop is til April
[16:17] <Ripper003> Microphone works locally i.e. sound recorder, but internet telephony bar Mumble doesn't work?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Ct529: I suggest you report one then
[16:18] <ct529> ActionParsnip: course, but first I need to udnerstand what it is .... it may be due to something I have done or installed.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: server til april 2015 afaik
[16:19] <kslater1> so I'm now running on my two LCD panels in TwinView mode with Unity. However, I have the side dock / menu / launcher on both screens. Seems like it should be possible to turn off one of them?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> LambdaMutt  ActionParsnip is right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Releases
[16:19] <LambdaMutt> ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust : Thanks. I have a very minor issue re: 10.04 . I'm trying to fix a System76 with a pre Unity UI. I cannot move dialog boxes past the top panel. Also, cannot figure out how to move the panel
[16:19] <c0d3punch> What do I need to do to make it so that ubuntu 12.04 does not auto start a gui once I install one? I'd like to manually go to it when needed with startx
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Ct529: i'd make a fresh ubuntu user, see if its packages or settings
[16:19] <ct529> ActionParsnip: done, it is the same
[16:20] <LambdaMutt> I *think* I achieved this once by terminating processes, but don't wish to 'monkey around' blindly
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: use maths :-)
[16:20] <LambdaMutt> any advice?
[16:20] <Ripper003> Microphone works locally i.e. sound recorder, but internet telephony doesn't work? Mumble does though...
[16:20] <kslater1> ah, I found it. In Settings->Displays
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: how can I, I don't know the issue......
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> C0d3punch: add the boot option: text
[16:22] <LambdaMutt> ActionParsnip, sorry - don't know what issue?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Ct529: i'd report a bug, the bug guys will ask for details and for you to try stuff
[16:22] <jn1> hi, is there a command to easy add home dir to an user wuthout one?
[16:22] <jn1> or should I just mkdir and chown
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: can't you just drag the gnome panel? Or right click it and in the panel properties select the side it sticjs to
[16:23] <user82> well jhutchins_wk seems like i found the last 1w that ubuntu burned more in idle than win8....flamethrower page purged!
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Jn1: the adduser command should do that
[16:24] <LambdaMutt> ActionParsnip, have tried those - failed.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: thats all I got, considering the short life of Lucid,  I would think about upgrading to Precise
[16:25] <LambdaMutt> ( I'm physically separated from the machine ATM. Will try to use XChat there, but response is very, very poor due to networking issues.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: irssi is light :)
[16:26] <LambdaMutt> ActionParsnip : I appreciate the help. Just a note: the system76 had huge issues last time I upgraded. But I will probably have to bit the bullet.
[16:26] <LambdaMutt> bite*
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Lambdamutt: could switch to XFCE
[16:27] <Ripper003> Microphone works locally i.e. sound recorder, but internet telephony bar Mumble doesn't work?
[16:28] <LambdaMutt> ActionParsnip : Oh, I getcha' - I run xfce on my old (old, old) dell. It's more about 'saving face'.
[16:28] <raven_> hi!
[16:30] <raven_> randomly my notebook freezes every few minutes with this graphical fault: http://picpaste.com/139c0fb7af3c6e3b1e69166a845883c9.JPG system is xubuntu 12.10, nvidia graphics card but no nvidia driver installed. any ideas whats going on there? tnx
[16:30] <LambdaMutt>    ( Just a small rant-ish note to people on this channel. System integrators already have a hard time selling *buntu systems. )
[16:31] <wolf_shadow> just checked slimboat browser in software center, is that a pay to use software?  Because it said Buy instead of install...
[16:31] <LambdaMutt>    (  While we don't mind d0rkish comments, it makes earning a living tougher when it's seen by our customers )
[16:32] <wolf_shadow> but when going to the developer homepage the download seems to be free?
[16:33] <raven_> randomly my notebook freezes every few minutes with this graphical fault: http://picpaste.com/139c0fb7af3c6e3b1e69166a845883c9.JPG system is xubuntu 12.10, nvidia graphics card but no nvidia driver installed. any ideas whats going on there? tnx
[16:34] <DJones> wolf_shadow: As far as I can see its free
[16:34] <blami> raven_: this seems to be a bug in nouveau driver
[16:34] <jhutchins_wk> d0rkish comments eh?  What are we supposed to do, idiot-proof the channel?  How would you log in if we did!
[16:34] <blami> raven_: I had similar problem with gt540m too
[16:34] <raven_> blami, what is the nouveau driver?
[16:35] <blami> raven_: opensource driver for nvidia cards
[16:35] <DJones> wolf_shadow: Thats wierd, its says it free and then wants to connect to the payment service
[16:35] <wolf_shadow> yeah i know i didnt get why i did that when i try to install it
[16:35] <raven_> blami, what is the solution
[16:35] <andrea__> do you guys remember if it's  > or >> that adds to a file?
[16:36] <LambdaMutt> jhutchins_wk, you have no idea how much damage you are causing right now
[16:36] <folorn> hello everyone.
[16:36] <folorn> :)
[16:36] <blami> raven_: either install nvidia driver or upgrade kernel. I recommend you first one :)
[16:36] <Ripper003> Microphone works locally i.e. sound recorder, but internet telephony bar Mumble doesn't work?
[16:36] <TheLordOfTime> andrea__, it should be >> for appends.
[16:36] <derram001> hello how do i chat
[16:36] <TheLordOfTime> andrea__, otherwise i think > just overwrites
[16:36] <blami> raven_: bug is fixed in 3.8 git but that's really not kernel for production machine :)
[16:36] <andrea__> TheLordOfTime:  k thanks :)
[16:36] <jhutchins_wk> LambdaMutt: How many years have you been on irc?
[16:36] <raven_> blami, with nvidia driver its the same freeze and i used a few kernels now
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Raven_: have you tested RAM health?  You may also want to clean out your fans if the system is old-ish
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Andreq__: >> appends
[16:36] <wolf_shadow> but i'll have to install it from developers page then
[16:37] <LambdaMutt> jhutchins_wk, I have been in software for about 34 years now
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Andrea__: or you can pipe to tee -a  to add too :-)
[16:37] <ct529> ActionParsnip: and solved ....
[16:37] <Monotoko> LambdaMutt... you remember ARPA?
[16:37] <raven_> ActionParsnip, the machine is cold enough and ram has 0 errors
[16:37] <jhutchins_wk> LambdaMutt: That's not what I asked, and I've still got you beat.
[16:37] <blami> raven_: is it optimus setup or nvidia only?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Ct529: what was it?
[16:38] <ct529> ActionParsnip: gvfs ....
[16:38] <LambdaMutt> jhutchins_wk, if you would like credentials, speak to the former North American VP of Dev for Ubuntu
[16:38] <raven_> blami, what do you mean exactly?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Raven_: when did you lsst test ram?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Ct529? Nice
[16:38] <jhutchins_wk> LambdaMutt: My point is that only an idiot would judge anything by irc traffic.
[16:38] <blami> raven_: do you have laptop with two video cards (nvidia + intel) or just nvidia only?
[16:39] <raven_> ActionParsnip, two days ago
[16:39] <raven_> blami, just nvidia i think
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Raven_: cool
[16:39] <blami> raven_: then I don't know ... it may be also hardware problem ...
[16:40] <blami> raven_: does similar thing happen when you boot in console?
[16:41] <arunscape> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1494514/
[16:41] <arunscape> please help. I'm new to linux, decided to try out ubuntu. created a new partition, and replaced windows 8 boot manager with grub 2
[16:41] <arunscape> now windows doesn't want to start and neither does the recovery environment.
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> raven_: video ram corruption.  You said your ram was good - did you run memtest?
[16:41] <raven_> blami, not tested yet but it happened a freeze this way at entering the grub menu 1 time
[16:41] <LambdaMutt> Monotoko, if it helps to 'date' me, I ran a Fidonet BBS in the mid 80's
[16:42] <LambdaMutt> First 'internet' connection was long distance to california
[16:42] <LambdaMutt> SLIP
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> LambdaMutt: Really?  What node?
[16:42] <LambdaMutt> Yes, really.
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> LambdaMutt: What node?
[16:42] <LambdaMutt> I'm not going to tell you, because I don't want my dox tied to this nick
[16:42] <kke05597> ciao
[16:43] <kke05597> !list
[16:43] <LambdaMutt> jhutchins_wk, HINT: It was during the time of Amnon
[16:43] <LambdaMutt>  >> REDCON <<
[16:43] <LambdaMutt> jhutchins_wk, HINT: A rebuilt Hudson
[16:44] <jhutchins_wk> 1:280/76 - worked on the project to link Gulf War soldiers with their families.
[16:44] <LambdaMutt> Admirable
[16:44] <LambdaMutt> Awesome stuff.
[16:44] <LambdaMutt> I'm guessing you're talking about the 1st Gulf War?
[16:44] <blami> raven_: that sounds alot like hardware problem
[16:45] <jhutchins_wk> LambdaMutt: So the fact that in spite of what noise there is on the channel, we manage to provide realtime support, often at a higher level than the paid support you get from RedHat is much more of an asset than the liability of inexperienced users giving bad advice.
[16:45] <blami> raven_: one of my older thinkpads with nvidia card had similar problem caused by cold joints
[16:45] <LambdaMutt> Tiemann and I have differing views about that.
[16:45] <raven_> blami, how to verify
[16:46] <blami> raven_: does your laptop overheat?
[16:46] <LambdaMutt> Pass on a message to him, will you? The acoustics in his studio still suck.
[16:46] <blami> raven_: in case of my laptop it was sufficient to go into bios and wait to prove the error
[16:47] <blami> raven_: basically if it happens before linux kernel is booted (e.g. in grub) it's very likely it has nothing to do with linux
[16:48] <sw0rdfish> can I put a button into internet explorer to translate websites for me?
[16:48] <DJones> sw0rdfish: Internet explorer?
[16:49] <sw0rdfish> errr...
[16:49] <sw0rdfish> nvm
[16:49] <sw0rdfish> wrong window :P
[16:49] <bugtraq> klk
[16:50] <raven_> blami, no its cold enough
[16:50] <machicola> what is the typical script or location I would want to put shell commands to start programs or make configuration adjustments at startup?
[16:50] <bugtraq> alguien que sepa de hacker
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> machicola: System level or user/graphic level?
[16:51] <machicola> user/graphic level
[16:51] <bugtraq> ok
[16:51] <raven_> ActionParsnip, blami ill test it within bios. hopefully its no hardware problem.......
[16:51] <ska> I want to boot to a text based menu, instead of a login console. All in text mode.. Is there an easy way to do this?
[16:51] <raven_> tnx
[16:51] <bugtraq> alguien sabe de hacker
[16:51] <DJones> bugtraq: This is a support channel for Ubuntu, hacking isn't a suitable topic in the channel
[16:51] <bazhang> !es | bugtraq
[16:52] <jhutchins_wk> machicola: Unity desktop?
[16:52] <bazhang> !nox | ska
[16:52] <bonno> hello i am reading about hard & soft links.. and i am trying to create a hard link between 2 files which are on ntfs file system.. i am getting "no such file or directory" error.. why?
[16:52] <katarakt> Question: I'm trying to pipe my external IP address to the whois command, but I can't seem to get it to work.  I'm using curl -s http://checkip.dyndns.org/ | sed 's/[a-zA-Z<>/ :]//g' which returns my IP, but when I pipe to whois i get the whois help.  Any suggestions about problem?
[16:52] <bonno> does ln works only between ext filesystems?
[16:52] <jhutchins_wk> machicola: Usually the system will "remember" what was running when you last shut down and restart it.
[16:52] <machicola> jhutchins_wk, gnome fallback rather
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> bonno: ntfs does not support links.
[16:53] <ska> ubottu: or I can just remove all X.
[16:53] <bonno> ok.. thank you :)
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> ska: Just turn off the dm - probably gdm.
[16:53] <machicola> yea, i'm half doing it for practicality and half to learn something about scripts etc.
[16:53] <machicola> i can't stand unity :-(
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> ska: I use rcconf, but there may be a better way in ubuntu.
[16:54] <tqrst> what package should I install to get liblapack.so.3 on quantal? I looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/liblapack.so.3 but those packages (libatlas3-base and liblapack3) don't seem to exist.
[16:54] <machicola> drives me crazy lol
[16:54] <machicola> although it seems well made and i'm sure is great for some
[16:54] <bugtraq> soy nuebo en esto
[16:55] <jhutchins_wk> machicola: Is this relevant? http://gnomeshell.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/manage-the-startup-applications/
[16:55] <bugtraq> aguien me puede ayudar
[16:55] <xangua> !info liblapack3 | tqrst
[16:55] <jhutchins_wk> !es
[16:55] <bazhang> bugtraq, its english only here
[16:56] <katarakt> I can't find any reason why whois won't accept pipe... I'm doing "<command for external ip> | whois"...is that my problem?
[16:56] <tqrst> xangua: that package doesn't exist here
[16:57] <kslater> does whois accept input from stdin?
[16:57] <tqrst> xangua: there is, however, liblapack3gf
[16:57] <mcsx3> Good Morning! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[17:00] <kslater> katarakt: When I try to echo an ipaddress into whois with a pipe, I get usage help back. Seems like it's not expecting input in that manner
[17:01] <kslater> katarakt: you might try:
[17:01] <kslater> whois `command to get external ip`
[17:01] <kslater> that should work
[17:01] <tqrst> s/``/$()
 thanks.  glad it's not just me.  I've also tried writing the ip to a file, and then using that file for whois.  but then i get an error that "no whois server is known  for this kind of object"...it's like a binary/ascii problem or something...wrong format...
[17:02] <kslater> tqrst: is that a better form?
[17:03] <mcsx3> Hello! Can anybody here help me with a problem with 12.10?
[17:03] <katarakt> not sure it matters, but i'm running this in a bash script....
[17:03] <DJones> !details | mcsx3
[17:04] <kslater> gotta love ubottu
[17:04] <tqrst> kslater: fewer issues with escaping and nesting
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> katarakt: You might ask in #bash.  What command are you using to get the ip?
[17:04] <tqrst> kslater: you can do $(foo $(bar)), etc.
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> katarakt: What is the object of the exercise?
[17:04] <kslater> tqrst: good tip. Thanks for that.
[17:05] <kslater> I seem to go through phases with bash prompt knowledge. Up and down, up and down..
[17:05] <katarakt> I'm using notify my android service to send my ipaddress and info daily to determine if my vpn goes down/changes ip.  I can send myself my ip address, but I'm trying to get the host info from the whois as well
[17:06] <tqrst> as long as the trend is upward ;)
[17:06] <tqrst> mine goes up and down and up and screwthisletsusepython and down and up and [...]
[17:11] <folorn> anyone know if there's a place to get help with a specific linux distro? im having some real trouble i tried the #linux channel but it wont let me talk in it to answer questions ??
[17:11] <mutantkeyboard> @folorn which distro?
[17:12] <folorn> redhat 9.0 mutantkeyboard
[17:12] <jhutchins_wk> katarakt: You may find it easier to use something like the dyndns client.
[17:13] <mutantkeyboard> hmm... don't they have #redhat room dedicated for support?
[17:14] <bazhang> mutantkeyboard, rhel should be
[17:14] <mutantkeyboard> @bahzang indeed :)
[17:14] <bazhang> try #rhel
[17:15] <cdavis> Does anyone know if there is a max file size when using the paste file feature in minicom?
[17:15] <katarakt> it looks like dyndns client will return my ip (which I can already do) but it won't give me any whois info...am I missing something?
[17:15] <DJones> folorn: Certain channels require you to register your nickname before you can chat in them, that may be why you couldn't speak in #linux
[17:16] <folorn> oh thanks Djones
[17:17] <jhutchins_wk> cdavis: Shouldn't be, but that's an odd way to do things.
[17:19] <cdavis> jhutchins_wk: why is that odd? I have a huge set of settings that need added to a switch stack?
[17:19] <larst> hi
[17:19] <rick_a> hi
[17:19] <larst> why do I need a EFI boot partition?
[17:19] <rick_a> sorry i dunno
[17:19] <rom> hay, what happenes when i install ubuntu into my previously partitioned disk. having three, one for ubuntu, one for data partition and another for windows?
[17:20] <rom> i hav taken backup for only my ubuntu disk?
[17:20] <rick_a> just make sure you wont erase the other partions
[17:21] <rom> is there any risk of the other partitions even if there is an error in installation?
[17:21] <rick_a> can even somebody see what im typing here? lol
[17:21] <noname234> hi, folks. Have a question. I'm using ssh to remote control my PC ubuntu. Some controls works, but some (like starting bash scripts) don't. Why is that?
[17:21] <rom> ya i got that man, jus making sure..
[17:22] <rick_a> okey good  ;P do you dual boot 3 Operatingsystems?
[17:22] <jhutchins_wk> cdavis: Ah, cool, yes, that should work.  There might be other ways to pipe a file to the serial port, but pasting into minicom should work.
[17:23] <b3nj> hi, help me, no sound in youtube videos
[17:23] <b3nj> hi help me, no sound when playing a youtube video
[17:23] <jhutchins_wk> cdavis: You could probably cat <file> /dev/ttyS0 but there might be more to it than than.
[17:23] <jhutchins_wk> than that.
[17:23] <rom> rick_a: havnt tried that?
[17:24] <Darkswol> hi world
[17:24] <mcsx3> Hello! Can anybody help me with a prob. with 12.10?
[17:24] <b3nj> help me, no sound when playing a youtube video
[17:24] <mcsx3> Good Morning! Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some alleged solutions, but none has worked.
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> mcsx3, unless you provide details, no.
[17:24] <noname234> anyone?
[17:25] <TheLordOfTime> noname234, what errors are you getting when you try to start the bash script
[17:25] <TheLordOfTime> s/script/scripts/
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> rom: The most likely thing that can go wrong is that the person doing the install can make a mistake.  It's allways smart to have a backup, especially if you are changing partitions.
[17:25] <zwirc> Hi
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> rom: Most people would want a swap partition, but you can use a swap file instead.
[17:25] <zwirc> Coul someone maby help me setting up my SSD and Raid 1 ? :D
[17:25] <b3nj> help me, no sound when playing youtube videos
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> !patience | b3nj
[17:26] <b3nj> jhutchins_wk, help me
[17:27] <rom> jhutchins_wk: what is a swap file?
[17:27] <folorn> how you register your nick again anyone i think ive got it registered just forgot the other command to recognize it.
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> rom: Also known as a page file, or virtual ROM.  It is a file the system uses to write pages of memory when it has more data than will fit in physical RAM.
[17:28] <rick_a> i dont dual boot. i will only use Ubuntu. Tired of Windows and to much gaming..
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> rom: Windows uses a file, Linux usually uses a partition but can also use a file.
[17:29] <rom> jhutchins_wk: how does that help me now?
[17:29] <rom> oh i c..
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> rom: I'm just saying you might want to creat a swap partition as well as the OS partition.
[17:30] <rom> got it! wil check that out also, thanks!!
[17:30] <jhutchins_wk> forkup: /msg nickserv help register
[17:30] <jhutchins_wk> forkup: n'mind, sorry.
[17:31] <Malcom234> hi
[17:32] <Malcom234> i have a nas with a all in one printer  connected to it
[17:32] <Malcom234> the printer works, but the scanner cannot be found in simple scan
[17:32] <ska> So I find /etc/init/tty1.conf has a getty in it. Can I modify that to any program?
[17:32] <Malcom234> the printer is connected via network
[17:33] <Malcom234> does someone of you how i can configure my scanner
[17:33] <Malcom234> the synology nas shows that the printer is supported with scanner
[17:34] <bazhang> Malcom234, with xsane? simplescan? what have you tried
[17:34] <karl_> i have installed python-software-properties but this command add-apt in sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gearman-developers/ppa  wont work for me
[17:35] <karl_> i keep getting sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[17:35] <Mike9863> Until just the other day mp3 files worked fine, however now when they play I hear nothing in most players. They work in VLC but the sound is distorted. Can anyone help me fix this?
[17:35] <bazhang> karl_, what version of ubuntu are you on, and what is the exact error of "doesn't work"
[17:36] <Malcom234> bazhang, i am new to this. i used the program simplescan. i just pressed scan, i dont know if it uses xsane in this moment
[17:36] <bazhang> Mike9863, adjust PCM on alsamixer to around 80
[17:36] <karl_> bazhang:ubuntu 8.04
[17:36] <bazhang> Malcom234, is the printer itself recognized
[17:36] <Malcom234> bazhang, http://nopaste.info/757f12df64.html
[17:36] <bazhang> karl_, there s no PPA system for that
[17:36] <Malcom234> i think yes
[17:36] <Malcom234> but scanmimage says no
[17:37] <Malcom234> printing works
[17:37] <Malcom234> i used the printer setup
[17:37] <karl_> bazhang:thanks for that.is it possible to install gearman on this version of ubuntu?
[17:37] <bazhang> Malcom234, I can check askubuntu . com what is the exact printer make and model
[17:37] <zwirc> Coul someone maby help me setting up my SSD and Raid 1 ? :D
[17:38] <Malcom234> ok great
[17:38] <Malcom234> in the print configuration there is the following defined: dnssd://usbprinter1%20%40%20DiskStation._printer._tcp.local/
[17:38] <bazhang> karl_, you know 8.04 is only supported for server
[17:38] <mcsx3> Hello! Can anybody here helpme with a prob with 12.10? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some alleged solutions, but none has worked.
[17:39] <zakus> ++
[17:39] <bazhang> mcsx3, and what is the exact chipset, not the commercial name of that. lsusb in the terminal to paste.ubuntu.com with the dongle plugged in
[17:40] <karl_> bazhang:i didn't know that but i have strangely noticed it on my vps server options.
[17:40] <user_> hola
[17:40] <mcsx3> hang on bazhang
[17:40] <bazhang> karl_, you could compile gearman I suppose build-essential is what you need to compile
[17:41] <karl_> bazhang:I keep getting E: package not found in sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[17:41] <mcsx3> bazhang: I'm not used to IRCing. Do you want me to paste the info on the site?
[17:42] <Mike9863> bazhang: It was already at 100. I put it at 80 but nothing.
[17:42] <karl_> bazhang:build-essential,i got that package with no issues whatoever
[17:42] <bazhang> karl_, is the package even in 8.04? apt-cache search it or check packages.ubuntu.com for 8.04
[17:42] <Malcom234> bazhang it is hp deskjet f2180
[17:43] <mcsx3> This is what I get with "lsusb":
[17:43] <bazhang> mcsx3, to a paste service: paste.ubuntu.com  the save and give us the browser link; this avoids flooding the channel
[17:43] <mcsx3> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 19d2:0117 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[17:44] <mcsx3> got it
[17:44] <karl_> bazhang:thanks
[17:44] <bazhang> mcsx3, so the eight character ID is the one to search for the chipset
[17:44] <mcsx3> how do I do that?
[17:44] <bazhang> mcsx3, in a search engine?
[17:44] <mcsx3> I use Gnome 3
[17:44] <mcsx3> and it recognized
[17:45] <mcsx3> recognizes the dongle quite alright
[17:45] <bazhang> mcsx3, so whats the problem
[17:45] <mcsx3> even it names the carrier
[17:45] <mcsx3> that it doesn't turn on
[17:46] <mcsx3> it puts it on "network connections" but it says it's off
[17:46] <bazhang> mcsx3, does ifconfig show wlan0 or the like? apart from lo and eth0
[17:47] <mcsx3> no, I use 2 wifi devices
[17:47] <bazhang> mcsx3, how can you do that?
[17:47] <mcsx3> ifconfig names eth0, wlan0 and wlan1 an lo
[17:47] <_Ethan_>  i need to record a video from my screen, can someone suggest me a simple programm to do so ?
[17:47] <_Ethan_> id like to use it in windows
[17:47] <mcsx3> I have the one on the laptop and one USB
[17:47] <bazhang> _Ethan_, kazam
[17:48] <usr13> etyrnal: recordmydesktop
[17:48] <_Ethan_> bazhang does it work in windows¿?
[17:48] <folorn> how do we identify our nicks again ?
[17:48] <usr13> _Ethan_: in windows?
[17:48] <bazhang> _Ethan_, in windows? this is ubuntu support. ask in ##windows for that
[17:48] <mcsx3> jajaja...
[17:48] <bazhang> folorn, ask in #freenode
[17:49] <folorn> thanks bazhang
[17:49] <folorn> wish we had a  redhat channel on here as well :(
[17:49] <_Ethan_> bazhang there is no problem in asking if that works for windows
[17:49] <bazhang> folorn, #rhel
[17:49] <usr13> folorn: We do.
[17:49] <_Ethan_> definitely i will use camstudio
[17:49] <bazhang> _Ethan_, yeah there's a problem. this is NOT windows support
[17:50] <_Ethan_> this always the stupid things i hear about windows and ubuntu
[17:50] <bazhang> _Ethan_, /join ##windows   , ask there.
[17:50] <mcsx3> bazhang: did I lose you?
[17:50] <_Ethan_> i just asked if that supports also windows man
[17:50] <_Ethan_> nothing else
[17:51] <bazhang> mcsx3, how are you proposing to use two wifi nics at the same time
[17:51] <bazhang> _Ethan_, and we told you the right place for an answer to that :  ##windows
[17:52] <mcsx3> Look, when I disconnet both regula wifis, I keep the dongle G3
[17:52] <mcsx3> and this is the one I want to use where theres no wifi coverage
[17:52] <codepython777> http://pbin.be/show/1112/ -- should i be worried ? Can I live with this OS for the time being?
[17:52] <raven_> blami, shit the machine freezes in bios too...
[17:53] <Malcom234> bazhang anything heard from ask ubuntu?
[17:53] <bazhang> mcsx3, so try sudo dhclient wlan0/1 which ever it is, once it is associated with the ap
[17:53] <bazhang> Malcom234, I must have missed your posting the make and model of that printer/scanner
[17:53] <Mike9863> Until just the other day mp3 files worked fine, however now when they play I hear nothing in most players. They work in VLC but the sound is distorted. Can anyone help me fix this?
[17:54] <vihury> hi?
[17:54] <vihury> some one can help me
[17:54] <bazhang> Mike9863, where are the actual files stored? on a shared drive?
[17:54] <Mike9863> bazhang: Just in /home/mike/Music
[17:54] <Malcom234> np: [18:42] <Malcom234> bazhang it is hp deskjet f2180
[17:54] <bazhang> vihury, ask a question of the channel
[17:54] <bazhang> Malcom234, ok checking now
[17:55] <vihury> bazhang i don speak english i am chilean
[17:55] <vihury> do you can help me?
[17:55] <Mike9863> vihury: #ubuntu-es
[17:55] <mcsx3> banzhang: One question: aren't these broadband 3g dongles dial-up?
[17:56] <vihury> Mike9863: thnks but the ubuntu-es no answer
[17:56] <Mike9863> vihury: You have to wait for a response
[17:57] <vihury> ok
[17:57] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/181242 Malcom234 seems like the latest hplip fixes it, its an old bug
[17:58] <bazhang> mcsx3, they are 3G, thats not dial up is it
[17:59] <mcsx3> banzhang: I'm no expert on Ubuntu.
[17:59] <ska> Can I restart the tty1 console without rebooting the system in 12.04?
[17:59] <Malcom234> bazhang, this means? do i have to update something via apt-get ?
[17:59] <nickalex> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[17:59] <purezen> Hey guys..!! I have an issue with the indicator-weather program v.12.07.30-0ubuntu1.. I cant seem to add a location to it.. cant 'Apply' it finally after adding details..
[17:59] <bazhang> mcsx3, thats not about ubuntu. 3G is outside of that
[17:59] <w3s7y> banzhang, yes, it "dials out" when I connect.
[17:59] <mcsx3> bazhang: but the thing is that If I try it on windows, it installs a program which dials *99#
[18:00] <bazhang> Malcom234, search the package manager for the latest hplip packages and install them
[18:00] <mcsx3> bazhang: well I'm no expert on 3G either
[18:00] <bazhang> mcsx3, do you have two clients here? w3s7y also?
[18:00] <ska> I make changes to /etc/init/tty1.conf, how do I get system to re-read/execute those?
[18:01] <Malcom234> bazhang: hplib status:installed - does thios mean i have the latest version?
[18:01] <mcsx3> bazhang: Gee! I don't even know what that is.
[18:01] <ismell> can anyone post the default sources.list for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:02] <w3s7y> bazhang, yes mirc seems to have opened another.
[18:02] <jrtappers> Hello, is there a way to run a live CD from grub on wubi
[18:03] <Malcom234> bazhang i did a apt-get update and installhplib -> Newest version already exists
[18:04] <ska> initclt restart tty1
[18:04] <rick_a> erase the whole Harddrive and Install Ubuntu 12.04 and be happy.
[18:05] <jrtappers> Hello, is there a way to run a live CD from grub on wubi, I would like to be able to try linux live cd's on my laptop with wubi
[18:05] <zwirc> Coul someone maby help me setting up my SSD and Raid 1 ? :D
[18:05] <jrtappers> zwirc, have you got multiple drives?
[18:06] <rick_a> why not get Virtualbox? its great
[18:06] <klixa> jrtappers live cd's can be run all by theselves without grub OR wubi
[18:06] <klixa> themselves*
[18:07] <lietu> I can't seem to figure out which package I need in Ubuntu (server) 12.04 to get the CLI "mail" -command .. can anyone tell me?
[18:07] <jrtappers> klixa, no CD drive
[18:07] <klixa> jrtappers oh so you mean iso's?
[18:07] <jrtappers> So I would prefer to run the ISO from grub
[18:07] <jrtappers> yh
[18:08] <klixa> jrtappers virtualbox is probably the better route to take then, since you have no drive
[18:08] <jrtappers> Performance impact?
[18:08] <jrtappers> It's a weak netbook
[18:08] <klixa> jrtappers then get a usb stick, and run iso's from it
[18:08] <jrtappers> I heard ISO's can be run from grub
[18:08] <klixa> jrtappers you can write an iso to a usb stick..or even an sd card
[18:09] <klixa> jrtappers perhaps iso's can br run virtually with grub, wubi or whatever, but i have NO clue how that works…sorry
[18:09] <klixa> be*
[18:09] <jrtappers> ok
[18:09] <klixa> i personally use an asd card on my netbook… and then virtualbox on my laptop
[18:09] <yeats> purezen: there's a bug report on that but I'm not able to find it again :-/
[18:09] <klixa> sd card*
[18:10] <nickalex> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[18:11] <purezen> yeats: yeah.. I read that too.. and they said that the issue was resolved in the latest version.. and I updated it today from official ubuntu repo.. and thought that it might have got addressed..
[18:11] <zwirc> How do I see what disk ubuntu is installed on?
[18:11] <agliodbs> howdy!  I have a brand-new Asus Zenbook Prime.  Should I install 12.04 or 12.10, and why?
[18:12] <jrtappers> Whats the best way to run multiple Live CD ISO's from one USB drive?
[18:12] <agliodbs> jrtappers: *multiple*?
[18:12] <xakep> Hello
[18:13] <jrtappers> Its 32 GB, and I like to try multiple distors
[18:13] <jrtappers> *distros
[18:13] <seednode> jrtappers, you could emulate the Windows tool YUMI
[18:13] <seednode> But that's all I've got
[18:13] <yeats> purezen: yeah - I think the version with the fix is 12.07.30-0ubuntu2, which wasn't pushed to the repos yet when I looked last week
[18:13] <agliodbs> zwirc: what do you mean by "disk"?
[18:13] <seednode> I'm sure there's another way, but YUMI worked really well for me
[18:13] <xangua> jrtappers: i use multiboot http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[18:13] <agliodbs> also: why is 32-bit Ubuntu still "recommended"?
[18:14] <xangua> pretty easy, you just drag or select the iso's
[18:14] <jrtappers> xangua, thanks, il take a look
[18:14] <yeats> agliodbs: because it will run on any system
[18:15] <yeats> agliodbs: if you like upgrading every 6 months, go with 12.10, otherwise, 12.04 IMHO
[18:15] <zwirc> what hdd
[18:15] <purezen> yeats: yeah.. that might be the cause.. will wait for the next update then..:)
[18:15] <zwirc> i have 3 hdd
[18:15] <agliodbs> yeats: ok.  I generally pull the latest, but I'm seeing 12.04 recommended in the forums for the Zenbook
[18:15] <zwirc> but dont know what unbuntu is installed on
[18:15] <yeats> purezen: I'm waiting too ;-)
[18:16] <yeats> agliodbs: 12.04 is LTS, so a longer support time and presumably more stable (though I don't have trouble running LTS releases) - not running a Zenbook though if that makes a differenc3e
[18:17] <yeats> s/LTS releases/non-LTS releases/
[18:17] <agliodbs> zwirc: well, you can fairly easily see the logical name of the HDD which is mounted, but figuring out which physical disk that is is complicated
[18:18] <agliodbs> yeats: well, I can always in stall 12.04 and upgrade if I need something
[18:18] <agliodbs> the tricky part is the USB install
[18:18] <ShaunR> where can i get a live cd version?  i'm having a hell of a time finding it
[18:18] <yeats> agliodbs: why tricky?
[18:18] <xangua> ShaunR: ubuntu.com
[18:18] <zwirc> agliodbs: yeah, it sould be installed on a SSD, but i cant figure out how to check whats what disk :P
[18:19] <agliodbs> yeats: (a) creating the bootable USB stick
[18:19] <agliodbs> yeats: especially since I need to create it from a mac.
[18:19] <ShaunR> xangua: i've looked but the download section just keeps showing me the iso's for installing
[18:19] <agliodbs> and I can't remember which brand of USB stick worked last time
[18:20] <agliodbs> yeats: with 10.04, I've had trouble with Ubuntu not remounting swap when coming back from suspend.  is that fixed in 12.04?
[18:20] <b3nj> help me, firefox does not play sound
[18:20] <yeats> agliodbs: try unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ - there's a mac version - and any old USB stick should work in my experience
[18:20] <yeats> agliodbs: I haven't experienced that problem, so I don't know
[18:21] <agliodbs> yeats: oh?  There's a mac version now?  cool, I'll try it
[18:21] <zwirc> agliodbs: but how do I set folders for each disk?
[18:21] <agliodbs> yeats: actually, a lot of cheap USB sticks don't boot properly
[18:21] <zwirc> for example I want one user to use one disk, and take backups on another backup folder that is on the other disk
[18:21] <xangua> ShaunR: burn the iso as image to a cd/dvd and you got a live cd/dvd
[18:22] <xangua> i preffer usb
[18:22] <yeats> agliodbs: huh - I've not had problems - I mostly use SanDisk, but that's not because of a brand preference ;-)
[18:22] <b3nj> help me, no sound in firefox
[18:22] <agliodbs> yeats: well, stick with sandisk then
[18:22] <yeats> yep ;-)
[18:23] <agliodbs> yeats: I have like 1000 generic USB drives with people's marketing messages on them from conferences
[18:23] <agliodbs> those don't work
[18:23] <yeats> agliodbs: I use those too
[18:23] <yeats> no problems in my case
[18:23] <ShaunR> xangua: ah, ok it's bundled... thanks
[18:23] <b3nj> help me, no sound in firefox
[18:23] <agliodbs> yeats: huh. I went through hell with 10.04.   I had to rotate through 3 different brands before I found one that worked
[18:24] <yeats> agliodbs: hope it's smoother this time then
[18:24] <agliodbs> zwirc: unfortunately, I'm reinstalling my Ubuntu machine right now, or I could give you more useful advice
[18:24] <agliodbs> zwirc: FWIW, this is a generic linux question, so you could try #linux
[18:24] <b3nj> help me, no sound in firefox
[18:25] <agliodbs> b3nj: try restarting firefox
[18:25] <agliodbs> also check if you have another app open which has control of the sound
[18:25] <b3nj> agliodbs, did not work
[18:25] <luigi_> Cia
[18:25] <adamk> b3nj: Does firefox give you an error when you run it from a terminal?
[18:25] <b3nj> adamk, let me try it
[18:26] <b3nj> adamk, it does not give me anything, prompt just returns
[18:27] <adamk> b3nj: You're running 'firefox' in a terminal, and it immediately returns to a shell prompt?
[18:28] <b3nj> adamk, yes
[18:28] <usr13> b3nj: ps aux |grep firefox
[18:28] <adamk> Make sure firefox isn't already running.
[18:28] <b3nj> adamk, it is
[18:28] <usr13> b3nj: kill the pid
[18:28] <usr13> b3nj: or pkill it   pkill firefox
[18:29] <usr13> b3nj: May have to do it a couple times
[18:29] <b3nj> now when i run firefox it gives me a lot of messages
[18:30] <usr13> b3nj: Anything interesting?
[18:30] <b3nj> usr13: (firefox:5242): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: (null)
[18:30] <adamk> Anything interesting about your audio problems?
[18:30] <randomuser33> would 'dd if=/dev/sda2 of /dev/sda6' copy sda2 to the root of sda6?
[18:31] <randomuser33> And is it normal for dd not to display any status update. It is just sitting there after typing in the command. I assume it is doing something but I have no way to know.
[18:31] <b3nj> usr13: i think not
[18:32] <usr13> b3nj: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[18:32] <b3nj> usr13: 12.10
[18:32] <usr13> b3nj: Fully updated?
[18:32] <b3nj> usr13: i hear sound in chrome
[18:32] <usr13> b3nj: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:33] <b3nj> usr13: i will reboot
[18:33] <b3nj> usr13: hold on
[18:34] <chitrank> Hello
[18:34] <chitrank> I am Chitrank Dixit
[18:34] <chitrank> I got one problem in the Ubuntu that says
[18:34] <usr13> Why reboot?  b3nj ?
[18:35] <zwirc> could someone help me fast setup a raid1?
[18:35] <zwirc> ubuntu ssh
[18:35] <devsys> hey all, I recently rebooted my ubuntu workstation and I get a "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". I did some googling and found this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 which says to run the update-initramfs command to restore a missing initramfs for my kernel. My question is, since I cannot boot, do I just do this with a live CD? I j
[18:35] <chitrank> Problem is "Ubuntu Internal Error" in some Ubuntu Unity packages What to Do I know the problem arised  after I did software update
[18:36] <yeats> devsys: yes - and you probably want to do fsck checks while you're at it
[18:36] <jrtappers> zwirc, If its hardware raid it tends to be enabled in bios and setup in pre-boot
[18:36] <jrtappers> so it will be hard to step you through over IRC, as you wont have an os
[18:37] <devsys> yeats: thanks -- I tried that already, so and it instructed me to use xfs_check and xfs_repair. check found problems and xfs_repair fixed them, but it still wont boot and gives the same error
[18:37] <b3nj> usr13
[18:37] <usr13> b3nj: Yes?
[18:37] <b3nj> usr13: everything is updated and upgraded
[18:38] <usr13> b3nj: Ok
[18:38] <jrtappers> How do I have different wallpapers on cinamon and unity?
[18:38] <devsys> yeats: do I need to tell update-initramfs the drive somehow, or it doesnt need that?
[18:38] <b3nj> usr13: also when i open flash player settings it gets unclickable
[18:38] <bazhang> jrtappers, cinnamon is mint product. ask mintsupport
[18:38] <bazhang> !mintsupport | jrtappers
[18:38] <Neshemah> Mint's support is on irc.spotchat.org
[18:39] <usr13> b3nj: flash player settings?  gets unclickable?
[18:39] <b3nj> usr13: yes
[18:39] <jrtappers> The problem is they seem to share settings
[18:39] <usr13> b3nj: I'm afraid your going to have to elaborate on that just a bit.
[18:39] <bazhang> jrtappers, thats a mint issue
[18:40] <usr13> b3nj: I've never heard of any flash player settings and certainly not for them to be "unclickable".
[18:40] <b3nj> usr13: i hate that in chrome everything works fine
[18:41] <usr13> b3nj: What exactly is the problem?
[18:41] <usr13> b3nj: Firefox will not run at all?
[18:41] <chitrank> Is there anyone to tell me how to repair Ubuntu
[18:41] <b3nj> usr13: firefox, no sound + can't change settings
[18:41] <b3nj> usr13: in flash player
[18:42] <usr13> b3nj: So the problem is flash player.  Right?
[18:42] <b3nj> usr13: i think so
 Please Help Me
[18:42] <b3nj> usr13: i wonder why mozilla do not make flash player preinstalled in firefox
[18:42] <t35t0r> i've got a laptop with only an intel video chipset. If i ssh into another system with ssh -CY or ssh -X or ssh -Y and launch idl and try to start a process that does some stuff with X, i always get an error that NV-GLX is missing, any ideas?
 Let me tell you My Problem
[18:42] <bazhang> chitrank, with what
[18:42] <t35t0r> btw, I can launch xterm, xeyes, etc from the remote server
[18:43] <t35t0r> it's just when idl tries to do anything with X
[18:43] <usr13> b3nj: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[18:43] <chitrank> Problem is "Ubuntu Internal Error" in some Ubuntu Unity packages What to Do I know the problem arised  after I did software update
[18:43] <adamk> t35t0r: The remote server has the nvidia driver installed, and is trying to use the nvidia GLX extension.
[18:43] <t35t0r> adamk, uhh no
[18:43] <bazhang> chitrank, pastebin the exact errors
[18:43] <bazhang> !paste | chitrank
[18:43] <t35t0r> adamk, the remote server uses a matrox video chipset
[18:43] <b3nj> usr13: has no installation candidate
[18:43] <t35t0r> it's a server
[18:44] <t35t0r> X calls always get forwarded to the client X
[18:44] <usr13> b3nj: apt-cache search flash |grep adobe
[18:44] <zwirc> jrtrapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid think il just use that
[18:44] <zwirc> but trying to figure out whats harddrive is what, and what hardrive OS is on?
[18:44] <adamk> t35t0r: The remote server is the one running the binary.  The binary is most likely linking against the nvidia libGL.so file, which expects the nvidai GLX extension.  Like it or not, that is the most likely situation, unless you can actually show that the libGL being used isn't from nvidia.
[18:44] <usr13> b3nj: apt-cache search flash |grep Adobe
[18:45] <b3nj> usr13: flashplugin-installer flashplugin-downloader
[18:45] <usr13> b3nj: You are on 12.10?
[18:45] <b3nj> usr13: yes
[18:45] <t35t0r> adamk, ok it's possible and it looks like the nvidia driver was installed on the server, time to uninstall and see what it does
[18:45] <usr13> b3nj: 32bit?
[18:46] <b3nj> usr13: 64bit
[18:46] <b3nj> usr13: should i install anything of flashplugin-installer flashplugin-downloader
[18:47] <usr13> b3nj: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:47] <liamnorris123185> Hello Ubuntu chatters!  I'm having trouble installing Qt 4.7+ on Ubunto 10.04.  Is this even possible?
[18:47] <b3nj> usr13: you mean flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound?
[18:48] <usr13> b3nj: or flashplugin-installer
[18:48] <usr13> b3nj: Try flashplugin-installer
[18:48] <auronandace> liamnorris123185: not worth the effort since 10.04 desktop support ends in april
[18:48] <t35t0r> yup that did indeed fix it
[18:48] <b3nj>  usr13 flashplugin-installer already newest version
[18:49] <t35t0r> anks adamk
[18:49] <zwirc> but trying to figure out whats harddrive is what, and what hardrive OS is on?
[18:49] <usr13> liamnorris123185: Must be time to upgrade to 12.04 ?
[18:49] <devsys> yeats: when I run update-initramfs from a live cd it says "update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media"
[18:49] <b3nj> usr13: flashplugin-installer already newest version
[18:49] <liamnorris123185> Isn't the server LTS continuing?
[18:49] <devsys> how do I run that command from a live cd to repair my initramfs?
[18:50] <bekks> devsys: You have to build chroot and run it inside the chroot.
[18:50] <b3nj> bekks, hi
[18:50] <auronandace> liamnorris123185: what good is qt on a server?
[18:51] <usr13> b3nj: Seems there are a few problems with 64bit (apparently one is flashplayer). Of course, flashplayer in and of itself is a perpetual problem :(
[18:51] <Jordan_U> zwirc: "mount" will tell you the device name of the partition mounted as your root filesystem ('/').
[18:51] <b3nj> usr13: i heard that i can turn on html5 video playin on youtube?
[18:51] <usr13> b3nj: Just a sec.
[18:51] <b3nj> usr13: how do i do that?
[18:52] <b3nj> l057c0d3r: hi
[18:52] <devsys> bekks: so like sudo chroot /my/drive
[18:52] <usr13> b3nj: http://flocknote.com/
[18:52] <l057c0d3r> hey there b3nj
[18:52] <usr13> b3nj: Wrong URL, sorry
[18:53] <dufa> b3nj: the html5 player on youtube is accessible form the link at the bottom of youtube that says " Try something new"
[18:53] <l057c0d3r> learn anything about the terminal yet??
[18:53] <usr13> b3nj: http://www.techlw.com/2012/06/install-adobe-flash-11-in-ubuntu-or.html
[18:53] <b3nj> l057c0d3r: readin learn c hard way
[18:53] <cheebu> Hi all... just installed Ubuntu 12.04 How do i check if trim is working?
[18:53] <l057c0d3r> yeah..  its a good one too :-) your welcome
[18:54] <bekks> cheebu: By looking the output of "mount" - seeing "discard" there, tells you that TRIM is active.
[18:54] <usr13> b3nj: Actually, you should cut to the chase.  Let's do this:
[18:54] <l057c0d3r> don't know if you noticed it.. but at the end of the cli guide.. there is a pdf.  its like a cheat book.. rather nice
[18:55] <usr13> b3nj: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11.2_for_other_Linux_(.tar.gz)_64-bit
[18:56] <usr13> b3nj: Download it to Downloads.  Open a terminal, cd Downloads  Ok... there yet?
[18:56] <b3nj> usr13: i run commands that were on that page
[18:57] <usr13> b3nj:  Ok.. well never mind.
[18:57] <usr13> Let me know if it works.
[18:57] <b3nj> l057c0d3r: you still fscking with windows?
[18:57] <usr13> b3nj: But this would be easier.
[18:57] <l057c0d3r> na.. i got everything i want on linux..
[18:57] <xangua> usr13: b3nj adobe-flashplugin package already installs the 64 bit version
[18:58] <b3nj> xangua: unfortunately, adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[18:58] <usr13> xangua: Tell b3nj  He's the one with the problem.
[18:58] <b3nj> usr13: should i reboot or something after that?
[18:58] <xangua> !partner
[18:58] <xangua> b3nj: you need to enable parther repository first
[18:58] <l057c0d3r> hmm i got flash through the restricted extra's package... i take it its not version 11 or this conversation would be irrelevant
[18:58] <usr13> b3nj: I'll tell you how to fix it when you get ready.
[19:01] <VlanX> any idea how i can calculate the hash of a file from the terminal?
[19:02] <b3nj> xangua, adobe-flashplugin installed now
[19:02] <b3nj> usr13: i have installed adobe-flashplugin
[19:02] <w3s7y> Vlanx, 'md5sum <file>'
[19:03] <dufa> VlanX: if you need a very specific hash openssl will propably do the job
[19:03] <VlanX> w3s7y: ty
[19:03] <b3nj> xangua: still no sound in firefox
[19:03] <usr13> b3nj: Ok good.
[19:03] <b3nj> usr13: but still no sound
[19:03] <VlanX> nope md5 is fine, just to verify integrity :)
[19:03] <w3s7y> For a MD5 hash, open-ssl has many, many hash functions...
[19:03] <w3s7y> But dont think it's installed by default
[19:04] <arshavin> md5sum filename
[19:04] <b3nj> arshavin: hi to india
[19:04] <usr13> b3nj: Download Adobe Flashplayer 11.2 64bit from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/  Get the gz  version. Unpack it and move libflashplayer.so to the plugins directory.  Try that.
[19:04] <l057c0d3r> b3nj..  do you have sound though other things.. i had a problem with my lappy.. since it has both built in audo and hdmi.. had to open the pulse audio control and disable my hdmi card and make sure the built in audo was enabled to fix
[19:04] <arshavin> md5sum should be installed
[19:04] <b3nj> l057c0d3r: sound works fine in chrome
[19:04] <arshavin> b3nj hi to russia
[19:05] <l057c0d3r> k
[19:05] <l057c0d3r> sorry missed that part earlier..
[19:05] <b3nj> arshavin: are you from russia?
[19:05] <w3s7y> arshavin, yeah md5sum is on ubuntu as std, open-ssl has more functions but the apt pkg has to be installed
[19:05] <arshavin> no I already told you where i was from
[19:06] <b3nj> arshavin: vodka vodka
[19:06] <cheebu> how do i check if trim is working
[19:06] <arshavin> b3nj:never tasted it
[19:06] <usr13> b3nj: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:06] <arshavin> b3nj: but virtual cheers to you and a happy new year
[19:07] <b3nj> usr13: please repeat your last message
 b3nj: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:07] <domino> hey everyone. I've recently encountered an issue and have tried numerous suggestions (to no avail) to try and correct it, so im coming here to see if anyone has any ideas. when I run an apt-get update it fails with this output: https://gist.github.com/d9045e2660167ac33617
[19:08] <domino> (im using ubuntu server 12.04.1
[19:08] <domino> )
[19:09] <TAsn> Hey guys. What should I do to get a package off the ubuntu repos? I work on e17 and ubuntu has a 3 year old package in it's repos. This is very annoying as users think badly of e17 because of it (it was an early dev version). I would like that if possible this package will be removed altogether or upgraded to the stable release, but what should I do in order to achieve that?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> domino  there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:09] <cheebu> Guys i rememebr there was a comand to tell me if TRIM is on  anybody know?
[19:09] <domino> MonkeyDust: oh i wasn't aware. I'll try there. thank you
[19:09] <usr13> b3nj: Show us what you have there now:  ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |pastebinit
[19:09] <Optichip> TAsn: local mirror?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> TAsn  3 years old, what ubuntu version?
[19:09] <k1l> TAsn: i would get in contact with the maintainer of that package.
[19:09] <b3nj> usr13: how to unpack the archive?
[19:09] <DJones> TAsn: Probably a good starting point would be to contact the package maintainer
[19:10] <k1l> TAsn: packages.ubuntu.com tells you who that is
[19:10] <usr13> b3nj: tar xvf file.gz
[19:10] <TAsn> MonkeyDust, newest one.
[19:10] <TAsn> that's a good starting point for the future
[19:10] <TAsn> I'm sure
[19:10] <usr13> b3nj: The first file you see is it.
[19:10] <TAsn> but is it for the old versions as well?
[19:10] <TAsn> anyhow, the maintainer is Ubuntu MOTU
[19:10] <TAsn> whatever that means.
[19:11] <k1l> TAsn: which package?
[19:11] <dkessel> TAsn, i guess you will find someone in #ubuntu-motu to help you
[19:11] <TAsn> e17
[19:11] <b3nj> usr13: i think when it unpacked everything was moved to the right directories
[19:11] <usr13> b3nj: sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> TAsn  motu = masters of the universe
[19:11] <TAsn> thanks
[19:11] <blami> TAsn: I would suggest opening an RFE for upstream update
[19:11] <usr13> b3nj: No, it wasn't.
[19:11] <TAsn> blami, but I can't do that for 10.04 can I ?
[19:11] <usr13> b3nj:  you have to manually put it there.
[19:11] <blami> TAsn: afaik no
[19:11] <b3nj> usr13: but the unpacked files are already in /usr
[19:12] <TAsn> ok.
[19:12] <blami> TAsn: and why would you do that? Not sure if 10.04 is LTS ...
[19:12] <TAsn> I'll ask at #ubuntu-motu
[19:12] <b3nj> usr13: no they are not
[19:12] <usr13> b3nj: Nope
[19:12] <k1l> TAsn: but keep in mind, that ubuntu doesn take new relases into old versions (in general). so the new e17 will be included in the 13,04 ubuntu (if its not past the deadlines already)
[19:12] <TAsn> it's not a new release
[19:12] <blami> k1l: i think it is
[19:12] <TAsn> it's the only release
[19:12] <TAsn> the previous ones were broken dev snapshots
[19:12] <blami> TAsn: but it wasnt there in time of 10.04
[19:12] <l057c0d3r> cheebu, go here https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking
[19:12] <TAsn> that got into ubuntu by some unfortunate mistake
[19:12] <usr13> Show us what you have there now.  ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ |pastebinit
[19:13] <blami> TAsn: that's important ... LTS get bugfixes, not new features afaik
[19:13] <usr13> b3nj: send resulting URL
[19:13] <Letalis> is there any information on the new ubuntu phones out there that isnt just an announcement? i was curios just how much of it is actually ubuntu and how much of it remains android.
[19:13] <TAsn> blami, sure
[19:13] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I fixed the problem with installing Ubuntu. Curious if you want to know in case someone else may have the same problem.
[19:13] <TAsn> blami, that's why I said removed or upgraded. :)
[19:13] <ania_> hi please help i just remove tomuch by using sudo apt-get purge wine* ....all packaged with wine name .....and ive seen stuff from system needed purged ...how to reverse purge command??
[19:13] <TAsn> I think removing that would be just fine.
[19:13] <TAsn> blami, the thing is
[19:13] <arshavin> I can't get oxford oald 8 sound when i install it from linux binary but it works with wine'
[19:13] <usr13> b3nj: It's like I said, you have to manually move the file to the plugins directory.  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:13] <TAsn> blami, people apt-get install e17
[19:14] <blami> TAsn: you can always start account on launchpad, create PPA with latest packages for 10.4 and provide info about them on project homepage
[19:14] <TAsn> blami, and get a crappy piece of sw
[19:14] <TAsn> blami, already done.
[19:14] <b3nj> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1496647/
[19:14] <blami> TAsn: users then are supposed to add ppa and apt-get install e17
[19:14] <TAsn> blami, that's what *intelligent* users do
[19:14] <TAsn> but others
[19:14] <TAsn> just apt-get install e17
[19:14] <TAsn> and ditch it after a couple of minutes
[19:14] <TAsn> orr complain about it in our trac/support chans
[19:15] <arshavin> it complains about shockwave player in linux
[19:15] <TAsn> blami, that's why I'd like it removed, so at least people will be able to get the proper package without confusion.
[19:15] <blami> TAsn: so close tickets redirecting those to tutorial
[19:15] <k1l> TAsn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/e17  see the maintainer part on the right.
[19:15] <usr13> b3nj: See?  You have  libflashplayer.so  and flashplugin-alternative.so  and flashplugin-alternative.so is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[19:15] <TAsn> k1l, MOTU
[19:15] <arshavin> i don't think shockwave player has a linux client
[19:15] <b3nj> usr13: so?
[19:15] <usr13> b3nj: From where you just now unpacked all the files do what I said.
[19:16] <k1l> TAsn: you emailed the email adress thats mentioned there?
[19:16] <ania_> anyone pleas
[19:16] <usr13> b3nj: sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:16] <b3nj> usr13: i have moved it
[19:16] <TAsn> k1l, not yet, trying #ubuntu-motu
[19:16] <b3nj> usr13: already
[19:16] <TAsn> first
[19:16] <k1l> TAsn: or filed a bug on launchpad (which is the first way to do)
[19:17] <usr13> b3nj: Show us.
[19:17] <usr13> Show us what you have there now.  ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ |pastebinit
[19:17] <b3nj> usr13: already sent link
[19:17] <TAsn> k1l, ok, will do one of them.
[19:17] <usr13> b3nj: The date is Nov 28th?
[19:17] <TAsn> or both
[19:17] <b3nj> usr13:  no
[19:17] <usr13> b3nj:  I don't think so.
[19:18] <b3nj> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1496664/
[19:18] <k1l> TAsn: i would file a bug before. im pretty sure they will ask after your filed bug :)
[19:18] <k1l> TAsn: and since the package itselv comes from debian i would talk to debian, too :)
[19:19] <TAsn> it will be fixed in debian
[19:19] <blami> I wanted to point out that it is imported packages
[19:19] <TAsn> it's already fixed in unstable
[19:19] <blami> package
[19:19] <usr13> b3nj:  Well, you still didn't do it because we STILL see "Nov 28 00:03 libflashplayer.so"
[19:19] <usr13> b3nj: So, what's up?
[19:19] <b3nj> usr13: wait
[19:20] <ania_> can you help me please?
[19:20] <b3nj> usr13: dated nov 28 so what?
[19:21] <usr13> b3nj: Here's the deal.  You can either use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:21] <usr13> b3nj: (Because that is not today's date.)
[19:21] <b3nj> usr13: why should it be today's date?
[19:21] <usr13> b3nj:  If /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  is there, it will be used.
[19:22] <blami> ania_: let me see my crystal ball to find out whats your problem
[19:22] <Muphrid> ania_: I dont think you can remake the purge command
[19:22] <usr13> b3nj:  If you replace /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  with the one you just downloaded, you will see the new date on it.
[19:22] <Muphrid> you can still reinstall them back using the same logic
[19:22] <ania_> how to undo purge .....it remove almost everything with wine* name
[19:22] <b3nj> usr13: reallY?
[19:22] <usr13> b3nj: Or, if you delete /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative  will be used
[19:23] <usr13> b3nj: Yea really
[19:23] <ania_> blami: sudo apt-get purge wine* it remove me about 800 mb of system ....
[19:23] <ania_> and i found that on ask ubuntu page
[19:23] <b3nj> usr13: when i unpack the archive the date on libflashplayer.so is nov 28
[19:23] <DaemonicApathy> Is it causing problems, ania_?
[19:23] <usr13> b3nj: If you botched up the command the first time, you'll need to unpack the file again.  tar xvf name.gz
[19:24] <ania_>  yes
[19:24] <Muphrid> ania_: such as?
[19:24] <blami> ania_: in /var/log/apt is file called history.log or history.log.gz1 ... they contain all operations done with apt
[19:24] <blami> ania_: just look what packages were removed and install them again
[19:24] <b3nj> usr13: so i am sure that the date is not changed
[19:25] <b3nj> usr13: when you move a file from one place to another
[19:25] <usr13> b3nj: ...downloading the file now...
[19:25] <b3nj> usr13: what is it?
[19:25] <ania_> http://pastebin.com/q7CgEBbu
[19:26] <TAsn> anyhow, discussion moved to #ubuntu-motu thanks
[19:26] <Muphrid> ania_: installing ubuntu-desktop back should get the important parts again
[19:27] <usr13> b3nj: I guess.  Try it and see if it works then.
[19:27] <usr13> b3nj: That's  weird.
[19:27] <b3nj> usr13: should i reboot my machine?
[19:28] <usr13> b3nj: No  Reboot will not do anything.  Restart firefox
[19:29] <b3nj> usr13: should add-ons manager in firefox show shockwave flash?
[19:29] <ania_> Muphrid: ubuntu-destop what else?
[19:29] <usr13> b3nj: Should
[19:30] <b3nj> usr13: still no sound
[19:30] <absurdum_22_34> I am trying to connect to a server using ubuntu server 12.04 through vnc.  What kind of port forwarding is required for this?  I have port 22 and port 80 forwarded to this machine already, are there any more?
[19:30] <Muphrid> ania_: that should be the base for a working-again system, the rest is up to you if you want to reinstall
[19:31] <usr13> b3nj: At this point you'll need to just experiment.  sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:31] <usr13> b3nj: Restart firefox and see.
[19:32] <ania_> ok thx.....the should put advice to remove on ask ubuntu
[19:32] <Muphrid> ania_: xchat, gnome-shell, gnome-panel and gnome-tweak-tool are not in that package if you want to install them again
[19:33] <usr13> b3nj: Did you try it?
[19:34] <b3nj> usr13: i renamed flash-plugin alternative to .bak
[19:34] <usr13> b3nj: Why?
[19:34] <usr13> b3nj: It's just a symlink.
[19:34] <usr13> b3nj: you simply replace it
[19:35] <usr13> b3nj:  ln -sf /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin/flashplugin-alternative.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:35] <b3nj> usr13: now i have removed it
[19:35] <usr13> b3nj: So try and see.
[19:35] <usr13> b3nj: restart firefox
[19:36] <b3nj> usr13: still no sound
[19:36] <usr13> b3nj:  ln -sf /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin/flashplugin-alternative.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:36] <usr13> b3nj: rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[19:37] <usr13> Restart firefox and try again.
[19:37] <ania_> please repeat what not in ubuntu desktop ...it restarted me
[19:37] <ania_> can u copy it can see it anymore
[19:37] <Muphrid> ania_: huh?
[19:37] <Muphrid> sec
[19:37] <usr13> b3nj: What version is your firefox?
[19:37] <Muphrid> xchat, gnome-shell, gnome-panel and gnome-tweak-tool
[19:38] <b3nj> usr13: 17.0.1
[19:38] <EntropyAnn> hello, everyone. Having an embarrassing set up problem and would appreciate some help
[19:38] <ania_> thank you
[19:39] <usr13> b3nj: Still not working?
[19:39] <Muphrid> ania_: so it is working now?
[19:40] <b3nj> usr13: a plugin is needed to view this content
[19:40] <b3nj> usr13: says firefo
[19:40] <usr13> ls /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin/flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:41] <ven0m> anyone used Ubuntu Gnome remix? Thoughts?
[19:41] <EntropyAnn> I used wubi to install 12.04 (the stable release) on some spare hard drive space for dual boot. I immediately got a PFN List Corrupt BSOD upon restart attempt. My Win 7 sector still boots, obv, but I'm not sure what the fix action is for the Ubuntu sector. Thoughts?
[19:41] <b3nj> usr13: should i install the plugin?
[19:41] <joeyy> how many procs does the lxde install use on install ?
[19:41] <usr13> b3nj: ls /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin/flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:42] <usr13> b3nj:  Is it there?
[19:42] <b3nj> usr13: cannot acess
[19:42] <usr13> b3nj:  ln -s /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin/flashplugin-alternative.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:42] <ania_> yes it looks that is a lot better finger crossed for reboot ....thank you
[19:42] <usr13> b3nj: sudo  ln -s /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin/flashplugin-alternative.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[19:42] <Muphrid> alright, yw
[19:43] <EntropyAnn> I'm using an Asus K55A if that helps
[19:43] <b3nj> usr13: failed to create file exists
[19:43] <theseb> What should/can you do when Unity "sticks" the top of an app's window to the top of screen?
[19:43] <theseb> how "unstick" it
[19:43] <theseb> ?
[19:43] <hapster> will we able to use nouveau with optimus laptops in 13.04?
[19:43] <ven0m> EntropyAnn: Not sure about wubi. How bout lili or unetbootin
[19:43] <usr13> b3nj: I concede
[19:44] <Muphrid> theseb: you mean the global menu, or the window snap?
[19:44] <usr13> b3nj: "cannot access"  What was that?
[19:45] <EntropyAnn> Ven0m: haven't tried those. I just used wubi since the ubuntu website provided it, figured it would be most stable install tool
[19:45] <theseb> Muphrid: global menu seems to hide very top of my apps
[19:45] <b3nj> usr13: ls: cannot access /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flash...... Not a directory
[19:45] <ven0m> I've tried wubi a couple of times. Never worked for me. not sure if it's just me though
[19:46] <EntropyAnn> also with a laptop?
[19:46] <Muphrid> theseb: the toolbar menu is integrated in the top panel, you have to hover it to show, there is package which does that although i dont remember the exact name
[19:46] <troybi> hi
[19:46] <usr13> b3nj: Use the package manager and try again.  But I don't know.  I think sometimes, when you install chrome, it breaks firefox/flashplayer
[19:47] <theseb> Muphrid: i noticed CCSM has a "place windows" feature..do you know what that is? maybe if i turned that off?
[19:47] <troybi> who is familiar with asm 8086?
[19:47] <bekks> troybi: Why?
[19:47] <EntropyAnn> I'd obviously prefer to repair the install, rather than outright delete it. If all else fails I'll just clear the sector, though
[19:47] <usr13> b3nj: If you can just use crhome for now, maybe that's the answer
[19:47] <Kion1> I upgraded to 12.10 and now my google earth is gone!!! any thoughts?
[19:47] <b3nj> usr13: i installed chrome only when firefox got broken
[19:47] <Muphrid> theseb: i'm not sure what you want, you mean when you drag a window to the top, it maximizes?
[19:48] <EntropyAnn> anybody successfully fix a dual boot install that gave you PFN List Corrupt on first restart?
[19:49] <usr13> b3nj: At:   http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/important-thingstweaks-to-do-after.html   I see:  sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[19:49] <usr13> b3nj: And:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[19:50] <theseb> Muphrid: it looks like turning off "Snaping windows" and "place windows" is what i want...basically i don't want unity to guess what i want to do and do it for me
[19:50] <Muphrid> theseb: that should do it
[19:50] <usr13> b3nj: You might try that. Other than that, I don't  know.  (I use 32bit.)
[19:51] <usr13> b3nj: I suppose you could install firefox 32bit version  and the 32bit adobe flashplayer.
[19:51] <b3nj> usr13: flashplugin-installer is already the newest version
[19:52] <usr13> b3nj: sudo apt-get purge glashplugin-installer
[19:52] <japs> hi, i recently got a new laptop with a 300g hdd and a 32g onboard memory
[19:52] <EntropyAnn> nevermind, I figured it out. Need to do ubuntu secure remix
[19:52] <heywood> hi all. i've got 12.04.01 LTS on an old thinkpad (T43). Fn-F3 to completely turn off screen used to work under natty, but no longer does under precise. can anyone help?
[19:52] <japs> where should i install the operating system?
[19:52] <b3nj> usr13: where have you learnt all these tricks?
[19:53] <usr13> b3nj: I did that once on a 64bit system.  I installed 32bit libraries and the 32bit version of Firefox and 32bit Adobe Flashpler and it worked like a charm.
[19:53] <usr13> b3nj: You could try that.
[19:53] <b3nj> usr13: where have you learnt all those tricks like pastebinit?
[19:53] <usr13> b3nj: Is't it obvious?  (I experiment.)
[19:53] <scellef> does anybody know how to bring up the GRUB menu on an intel mac?
[19:54] <b3nj> usr13: a book or what?
[19:54] <scellef> short of using grub-reboot (which is utterly frustrating)
[19:55] <usr13> b3nj: I have an office here, (well, I tell everyone it is an office, but it is really just a computer lab that pretends to be an office).
[19:55] <usr13> b3nj: Yea, books too.
[19:55] <b3nj> usr13: what books?
[19:56] <DaemonicApathy> heywood: attach 'sleep 1 && xset dpms force off' except quotes to a shortcut.
[19:56] <theseb> Muphrid: how turn off maximizing ? that is still happening
[19:56] <usr13> Oh, I've got several.  One is "Wicked cool shell scripts" :)
[19:57] <b3nj> usr13: where had you learnt commands?
[19:57] <heywood> DaemonicApathy: do you mean to map that key sequence to a shortcut? i understand the commands, but not the mapping to shortcut part.
[19:57] <usr13> b3nj: Mostly man files
[19:57] <cdavis> What suggestion is there for a terminal emulator that isn't gnome-terminal and it lightweight that has good copy/paste with X11
[19:57] <Muphrid> theseb: Im not sure on that one
[19:58] <usr13> cdavis: Most do copy/paste alright.
[19:58] <b3nj> usr13: okay. good bye i have to go to bed
[19:58] <Guest84637> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on VMWare Fusion but I get an error during installation -> Unanble to install the selected kernel. An error was returned while tryin to install the kernal into the target system. Kernel package: 'linux-generic'''
[19:58] <Muphrid> theseb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/105028/force-disable-snapping-windows
[19:59] <usr13> cdavis: I use "terminal"
[19:59] <Guest84637> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on VMWare Fusion but I get an error during installation -> Unanble to install the selected kernel. An error was returned while tryin to install the kernal into the target system. Kernel package: 'linux-generic'''
[19:59] <xomniverse> when I burn a DVD-RW from an ISO image in xfburn or Brasero, the disc still shows up as a blank disc when I reinsert it
[20:01] <usr13> cdavis: xterm is light
[20:01] <luka_> hello g00d ppl
[20:01] <usr13> b3nj: Ok. Catch u later
[20:02] <luka_> how do i make my own irc server?
[20:02] <theseb> Muphrid: thanks! found it here also. http://askubuntu.com/questions/72452/how-to-turn-off-compizs-drag-to-maximize-behaviour
[20:02] <zwirc> Do anone have a kind moment to spare on MSG to help me figure out my disks on ubuntu server?
[20:03] <Muphrid> K
[20:03] <luka_> answer 2 my question please
[20:03] <Ubuntu-erikas> Hi
[20:03] <luka_> how do i make an irc server
[20:03] <Fonsie> i need help haha
[20:04] <DaemonicApathy> luka_: This is Ubuntu support, not DIY IRC support.
[20:04] <ania_>  conky runs in termal insted on desktop why???
[20:04] <cdavis> usr13: but xterm doesn't have good copy/paste support as I recall?
[20:04] <DaemonicApathy> ania_ how are you opening it?
[20:05] <ania_> terminal and there conky
[20:05] <Fonsie> i installed ubuntu yesterday and restarted my comp and then tried going back into ubuntu and it does a scrolling check list type thing then stops on one and doesnt go any further
[20:05] <Ubuntu-erikas> When i'm have an problem message and i'm report it,it says : "Report failed"
[20:05] <uebera||> luka_: google Ratbox-IRCd
[20:06] <Chutney3k> Evening Folks
[20:06] <ania_> DaemonicApathy, any idea?
[20:07] <DaemonicApathy> ania_: I would try opening it from a menu instead of from the terminal.
[20:07] <Fonsie> anybody available to helpme?
[20:07] <Fonsie> help me*
[20:07] <k1l_> !ask | Fonsie
[20:07] <ania_> DaemonicApathy, there is no conky in menu
[20:07] <Fonsie> i installed ubuntu yesterday and restarted my comp and then tried going back into ubuntu and it does a scrolling check list type thing then stops on one and doesnt go any further
[20:07] <Chutney3k> there is no UI for conky lua
[20:08] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, then it's made to run within a terminal?
[20:08] <gh0st> I just installed Gnome remix.  apt-get doesn't work. this is the error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1496880/
[20:09] <gh0st> any ideas?
[20:09] <Chutney3k> sounds like an X Server fail Fonsie. maybe (i'm no expert). sort of error I get after certain updates etc (i have Radeon HD 6800)
[20:09] <uebera||> Fonsie: The installer CD image has a rescue mode; either use this to get to the logs (only those messagr will help you here) or just re-install it.
[20:10] <Fonsie> i installed from usb drive so just try re-installing?
[20:10] <Chutney3k> Conky is run from command line. you can open a terminal and i think the basic run command is simply: conky
[20:10] <Chutney3k> Fonsie, what grfx card do you have?
[20:10] <Fonsie> on-board
[20:11] <Fonsie> my pc is kinda of cruddy, its a gateway netbook with 1gb of ram and integrated graphics
[20:11] <linuxuz3r> is this also the channel for ubuntu for phones?
[20:11] <Chutney3k> hmm.. Fonsie, check out Lubuntu. it works much better on older hardware
[20:12] <Fonsie> this computer is new, when you say old are you referring to just lower spec?
[20:12] <Chutney3k> yes
[20:13] <Fonsie> ok, is the process for usb installation and such the same as ubuntu?
[20:13] <Chutney3k> just my advice. im sure some people have had Ubuntu running on similar spec hardware. on my laptop (5 years old) i ran both and found Lubuntu much better suited to the hardware
[20:13] <loxoko> usb installation?
[20:13] <Chutney3k> yes
[20:13] <alo21> where can I find a good bus guide for python?
[20:14] <Fonsie> installation from usb drive loxoko
[20:14] <jrtappers> Is the 7770 compatable with ubuntu?
[20:14] <Chutney3k> ATI card?
[20:14] <uebera||> alo21: try "join /#python" and ask there ;)
[20:15] <linuxuz3r> is this also the channel for ubuntu for phones???????????????????????????
[20:15] <Muphrid> linuxuz3r: #ubuntu-phone for discussion
[20:15] <Fonsie> one more question chutney, when i go to install lubuntu will it give me the option to replace ubuntu or do i need to manually un-install it first
[20:15] <linuxuz3r> thanks Muphrid
[20:16] <rjcupid> can some one help me figure out how to make a 4pin s-video chord work with a 7pin port in my laptop?
[20:16] <rjcupid> i have a 4pin connection in my tv
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> rjcupid  sounds like a #hardware issue to me
[20:17] <Fonsie> rjcupid i would look on google for possibly a converter plug
[20:18] <rjcupid> well i already checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952650 this topic on ubuntu forums and it didnt work...
[20:19] <Chutney3k> Jrtrappers?
[20:20] <Chutney3k> Sorry Fonsie, was looking something up. It will install in much the same way, so it will ask what you want to do: "wipe and install", "install alongside (dual boot)" or "something else"
[20:20] <codepython777> on ubuntu what can i configure that can talk otr with pidgin on windows?
[20:20] <Chutney3k> pidgin
[20:21] <Fonsie> and when i select wipe and install it should specify which os to erase?
[20:21] <jrtappers> THis is the 7770, is it compatable?   http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7770/pages/radeon-7770.aspx
[20:21] <Chutney3k> hmm.. think that will wipe everything
[20:21] <Fonsie> because i also have windows 7 on here and dont want to get rid of it
[20:21] <Chutney3k> best to chooose "something else!"
[20:21] <Chutney3k> and delete what you need to delete
[20:21] <Fonsie> ok, thank you
[20:21] <Fonsie> your help is much appreciated
[20:22] <Chutney3k> no problem fonsie, good luck!
[20:24] <suigeneris> !grub
[20:24] <Chutney3k> jrtapper: try this link for full details of the driver support https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:24] <Chutney3k> should tell you in there
[20:24] <Chutney3k> i cant immediately tell if the 7770 is compatible from the page you linked
[20:25] <Chutney3k> im out. good luck all and good night
[20:34] <dufa> when delpoying ubuntu (on 10-15 laptops), what would be the most sane way of making changes that are common to all installs (perhaps a know_hosts file, some applications (form the repos), and some settings changed)? Any pointers would be appreciated.
[20:35] <bekks> dufa: Create an installation image for PXE deployment.
[20:36] <suigeneris> what does this mean? /usr/bin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'
[20:37] <seednode> It means it doesn't recognize a partition in AU file system
[20:37] <seednode> You might have an AUFS partition without GRUB support for the file system
[20:37] <dufa> thx, i'll investigate
[20:37] <seednode> suigeneris, are any of your partitions formatted in AUFS?
[20:37] <suigeneris> seednode: all I did was sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:37] <seednode> What filesystem are you using?
[20:37] <suigeneris> no seednode
[20:38] <shartul> hi
[20:38] <suigeneris> seednode: reiserfs
[20:38] <seednode> Try installing aufs-utils or whatever the program is for compatibility, and running the command again
[20:38] <seednode> I don't know the exact program name, but it should be something like that
[20:38] <suigeneris> seednode: I was trying to recover grub from installing windows
[20:39] <shartul> am new to this
[20:39] <seednode> shartul, greetings.
[20:39] <shartul> anyone who may help me
[20:39] <seednode> Need any help?
[20:39] <seednode> Just ask.
[20:39] <shartul> how to use it ?
[20:39] <seednode> How to use Ubuntu?
[20:39] <shartul> yes
[20:39] <seednode> Or something in particular
[20:39] <shartul> does it mean I may any question relating to ubuntu
[20:39] <shartul> ?
[20:39] <seednode> Well, that's kinda a long process
[20:39] <seednode> Yes, you can ask anything
[20:39] <shartul> ok
[20:40] <seednode> I don't think this channel approves of PMing, else I could walk you through it step-by-step without spamming
[20:40] <Muphrid> !manual | shartul
[20:41] <shartul> I want help in developing shell script to automate the build deployment process
[20:42] <shartul> Any body here good at developing shell script in ubuntu
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> shartul  introduction to ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal
[20:43] <seednode> Not on that level, sorry
[20:43] <rjcupid> does any one know a command line to make a 4pin tv (s-video) work with a 7pin laptop while using a 4pin s-video chord (using ubuntu 32-bit 12.04 lts)
[20:44] <rjcupid> people in hardwear dont seem to know...
[20:44] <bekks> rjcupid: There is no such command line to convert hardware.
[20:44] <dufa> bekks: thx, the PXE solution seems to be pretty much exactly what i was looking for, just didn't know the name of what I was looking for ;)
[20:45] <rjcupid> it worked in a similar situation... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952650
[20:45] <bekks> rjcupid: You have to know which connectors you have exactly.
[20:45] <bekks> rjcupid: Otherwise, it is impossible.
[20:46] <rjcupid> my pc is 7-pin and the tv is 4pin and i have a 4pin chord
[20:46] <Quest> can anyone tell where i can get this background image? http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1366&bih=607&tbm=isch&tbnid=mESWvh__u3mrfM:&imgrefurl=http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php%3F58351-Is-There-a-Way-to-Restore-the-Plymouth-Screen-to-Default&docid=Z-G1NHb0TAHpIM&imgurl=http://i.imgur.com/zZULA.png&w=724&h=587&ei=Mj_nUKeJFczJsgb5yoDoDQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=381&sig=107240936512179610732&page=3&tbnh=152&tbnw=212&start=48&ndsp=32&ved=1t:
[20:46] <Quest> 429,r:73,s:0,i:317&tx=122&ty=125
[20:46] <FloodBot1> Quest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <bekks> rjcupid: And which one of the 30 zillion 7-pin connectors is it? What does the manual tell you, about that connector?
[20:47] <rjcupid> its the 7pin s-vid port in an acer aspire-5050
[20:48] <bekks> rjcupid: Then you have to find out how these 7 pins are connected, and which signal goes where. And no, you cannot change that with a command line.
[20:50] <rjcupid> the video should be the same in both 4pin and 7pin but 7pin just has audio as well thats the other 3 connections
[20:50] <suigeneris> seednode: no aufs-utils I'm afraid :(
[20:50] <seednode> It's something like that
[20:50] <seednode> Just google AUFS utility ubuntu
[20:50] <rjcupid> im not trying to make them compatable im trying to mke them work
[20:53] <bekks> rjcupid: And for making it work, you have to have a converter, which is some hardware, and which depends on which signals goes where.
[20:53] <leonardpop> hello! i installed ubuntu 12.10, all the updates and bumblebee. my problem is unity is kinda slow. if i go to settings - details - graphics it says driver unknown, experience standard. my question is - unity being slow has to do with graphic drivers? thank you!
[20:53] <Muphrid> leonardpop: ATI card?
[20:54] <kuhrect> can anyone see this?
[20:54] <Muphrid> kuhrect: yes
[20:54] <rjcupid>  the signals are going to the right places i just need the tv to show up.
[20:54] <leonardpop> Muphrid: laptop with i3-370m and geforce 520m optimus hybrid
[20:54] <rjcupid> in the displays menu
[20:54] <midnightcoffee> is it possible to change the ubuntu terminal navigation? i hate using the up down keys due to placement on my keyboard
[20:54] <Muphrid> leonardpop: not sure then, I know 12.10 has a lot of problems with ati
[20:55] <Siecje> how can I make a svn folder in Ubuntu, with svn installed
[20:55] <Muphrid> leonardpop: you can try to install a driver through software-properties-gtk and "additional drivers"
[20:56] <rjcupid> actually i think i might be missing the driver vor my s-vid port = /
[20:56] <usr13> leonardpop: jockey-gtk
[20:56] <leonardpop> Muphrid: my laptop has to cards: for the nvidia one proprietary driver was installed with bumblebee, but for the intel video card i don't think there is a driver installed because in settings - details - graphics is says driver unknown
[20:57] <Muphrid> leonardpop: intel drivers are built in xorg in the xorg-xserver-video-intel package
[20:57] <rjcupid> where can i fin d a driver for a 7-pin s-video port ?
[20:57] <leonardpop> usr13: what is jockey-gtk? i am not good with linuc. thank you
[20:57] <Muphrid> optimus should be supported by the nvidia driver in ubuntu 12.10
[20:57] <leonardpop> Muphrid: got it, thanx!
[20:57] <usr13> leonardpop: It is the "additional drivvers" app
[20:58] <phibxr> Muphrid, I still have to install Bumblebee from a PPA to get it working though.
[20:59] <jhutchins_wk> rjcupid: The driver for the card that has the port has to support it.
[20:59] <Quest> where are the kubuntu splash screen background image and desktop wallpapers located?
[20:59] <leonardpop> Muphrid: so.. that means that is sure thing i have driver already installed for my intelHD card?
[21:00] <Muphrid> leonardpop: yes
[21:00] <suigeneris> seednode: I'm on a LiveCD and I hadn't noticed this before. the first line of mount says aufs on / type aufs (rw)
[21:00] <leonardpop> Muphrid: ok, thank you very much!
[21:00] <seednode> Ah.
[21:00] <rjcupid> yeah i dont think i have a driver...
[21:00] <seednode> That might be the problem
[21:00] <hunter> hey
[21:00] <bekks> rjcupid: Which graphics card do you have then?
[21:01] <qwery> hey again
[21:01] <usr13> Quest: /var/lib/gdm/.cache/wallpaper  is one place I think.
[21:01] <suigeneris> seednode: I've downloaded  aufs-tools manually and tried grub-install again, no luck
[21:01] <rjcupid> ati radeon xpress 1100
[21:01] <suigeneris> downloaded and installed*
[21:01] <bekks> usr13: gdm has nothing to do with the desktop :)
[21:02] <suigeneris> what must I do now?
[21:02] <usr13> bekks: O
[21:02] <rjcupid> could it be that i have a 32 bit os and should have a 64bit os?
[21:03] <bekks> rjcupid: No.
[21:03] <qwery> jhutchins_wk: you said streaming music from ubuntu to my hifi receiver would work using subsonic, didnt you? or was it someone else?
[21:03] <gh0st> I'm using GNOME remix.I have a problem running firefox. I've extracted the contents of the firefox tar file I downloaded online. To run the firefox executable inside, what do I do? double clicking it  doesn't work like in vanilla ubuntu. Using terminal produces the following error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1496982/
[21:03] <beboj> http://askubuntu.com/questions/235859/running-sierra-wireless-gobi-2000-under-ubuntu
[21:03] <qwery> i am trying to figure out how to do that for about an hour now.. so i thought i come back here and ask if anyone knows how to do it ;)
[21:04] <qwery> the easiest way would be to have a http-url for a stream, where everything comes in that is played from subsonic
[21:04] <Quest> usr13,  and splash background?
[21:04] <qwery> i think
[21:05] <usr13> Quest: Maybe /usr/share/images/desktop-something-or-other
[21:06] <nanobolic> gh0st, is the file firefox executable? or is there one in the folder that says firefox-bin?
[21:06] <usr13> Quest: like:  /usr/share/images/desktop-base ?
[21:07] <gh0st> nanabolics: there is a firefox-bin
[21:07] <nanobolic> gh0st, try chmod +x firefox then run firefox like this ./firefox
[21:07] <Quest> thanks
[21:07] <nanobolic> gh0st, that is the one that you want to run most likely
[21:08] <usr13> nanobolic: gh0st /lib/firefox/firefox
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> gh0st, precede executables which are not on your path with a full path. try "echo $PATH" to see where its looking for firefox
[21:09] <shartul> http-ubuntu mobile os
[21:09] <usr13> nanobolic: gh0st What are we trying to do?
[21:09] <nanobolic> usr13, he just wants to run firefox frojm a tar file that he downloaded
[21:10] <shartul> anyone who may advie me on using python or shell script with automation test cases in Selenium
[21:10] <usr13> nanobolic: ~/Downloads/firefox-17.0.1/firefox
[21:10] <Pici> shartul: You'd be more likely to get answers in either #selenium or #python
[21:10] <shartul> atleast help with shell script
[21:11] <shartul> ?
[21:11] <usr13> gh0st: The Tab key is your friend.
[21:14] <shartul> Is there a way to print all the entires of double Tab button to a text fiel
[21:14] <shartul> file
[21:14] <shartul> ?
[21:15] <shartul> usr13
[21:16] <frustro> trying to install the QML preview, get this Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ui-toolkit/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:18] <frustro> full error on the QML download here, http://pastebin.com/zywLQMiq
[21:18] <uberBuntu> hi ubuntuers
[21:20] <under> hi ubuntu can see my tablet. why? i have to move a file to it
[21:20] <Monotoko> under, I assume you mean it can't... what tablet do you have?
[21:20] <uberBuntu> ping admin
[21:20] <mw44118_> under: is the tablet plugged in to the ubuntu machine?
[21:21] <guest-J9VyM4> hi
[21:21] <under> Monotoko: asus nexus 7. mw44118_ : yes
[21:21] <Monotoko> under, ahhh I have the N10... hold on
[21:21] <under> where did you get n10? i cant find it
[21:21] <guest-J9VyM4> I try to login to unity but I always get back to lightdm. only the guest-session works.
[21:22] <Monotoko> under, the Google store when it first came out
[21:22] <Monotoko> they'll be getting more stock soon I think
[21:22] <under> you're lucky
[21:22] <kostkon> under, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[21:22] <Monotoko> under, is your N7 still running stock android?
[21:23] <under> no I put cyanogenmod on it
[21:23] <rjcupid> the 7pin-4pin works with windows how do i make it work with ubuntu? (talking about s-video connections)
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> rjcupid  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952650
[21:25] <trendynick> my SSD is not seen anymore directly, hang on boot (I installed 32GB of memory, after a long time without reboot) even on another computer but can be accesed from the livecd with a good rate of succes. I want to copy home, but I get permission errors. I don't want to change permissions on it and then copy it for nothing
[21:25] <Monotoko> under, can't really find much on it annoyingly... have you tried enabling developer mode/USB debugging?
[21:25] <rjcupid> no i already tried that
[21:26] <rjcupid> the command line didnt work...
[21:26] <rjcupid> i was wondering if im missing a driver or need a different line...
[21:27] <rjcupid> i have the additional drivers ap installed
[21:27] <compdoc> trendynick, do you ever let the PC sleep or hibernate?
[21:27] <trendynick> yes S3 a lot of time, on UPS
[21:27] <under> Monotoko: I enabled debug usb but it wont mounted
[21:27] <ahmedipa> I have problem with my computer in ( UBUNTU )
[21:27] <trendynick> I usually S3, then S5
[21:28] <ahmedipa> not Bootable
[21:28] <ahmedipa> in UBUNTU any more
[21:29] <Monotoko> under, you're right.. I can't get my N10 to mount either
[21:29] <ahmedipa> suddenly I got this problem
[21:29] <ahmedipa> hd0 problem
[21:29] <Monotoko> under, give this a try: http://www.androidegis.com/tips-and-tricks/mount-nexus-4-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-to-linux-computer-how-to/
[21:31] <ahmedipa> this was my problem
[21:31] <ahmedipa> error: hd0 out of disk
[21:32] <frustro> 404 on QML PPA http://paste.ubuntu.com/1497303/
[21:32] <Monotoko> ahmedipa.. is your disk full?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: That normally means that you have a buggy BIOS which can't properly handle large drives. You can work around your BIOS's limitation by creating a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive.
[21:34] <ahmedipa> Monotoko:  no I have space enough
[21:35] <under> Monotoko: success! thanks
[21:35] <Monotoko> under, good stuff... no problem :)
[21:35] <the_admin_> help
[21:35] <Monotoko> the_admin_ - what do you need?
[21:35] <bekks> the_admin_: Beatles.
[21:35] <the_admin_> how to set a cloak ?
[21:36] <Monotoko> the_admin_ - not in here... try #help
[21:36] <ahmedipa>   Monotoko:  this was my problem before I tried to use CD live ubuntu
[21:36] <the_admin_> aha thanks
[21:36] <the_admin_> #help
[21:36] <ahmedipa> then I found this problem
[21:36] <Monotoko> the_admin_ - "/join #help"
[21:36] <Monotoko> without the quotes
[21:36] <ahmedipa>    	 	 	 	 	 	   PXE-E61 Media test failure / check cable PXE-MOF : exiting PXE ROM
[21:36] <ahmedipa>  Reboot and select proper Boot device   or Insert Boot media in selected Boot Device and press a Key
[21:37] <TeamRocket1233c> One of my dA friends is having trouble with his Intuos4. Any solutions?
[21:37] <tqrst> I only get sound when I am in the console. If I switch back to X (xmonad wm if that matters), sound stops working. Example: open a youtube video in firefox. No sound. Switch to console with ctrl-alt-f1. Can hear the video playing. Switch back to X with alt-f7. Sound stops. Any ideas why that might be?
[21:37] <TeamRocket1233c> He's most likely running Ubuntu 12.04.
[21:37] <anuvrat> am installing ubuntu server 12.04 with RAID1 and experiencing this exact same problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/215703/installing-12-04-server-as-a-software-raid-1-mirror-fails-to-boot
[21:38] <bekks> TeamRocket1233c: Whats Intuos4?
[21:38] <anuvrat> how do I boot it?
[21:38] <TeamRocket1233c> bekks: Wacom Intuos4 tablet.
[21:39] <Ceees2> Can someone help me with the problem that I dont have enough permissions to change some files?
[21:39] <marahin> Ceees2, chmod +rwx filedir
[21:39] <Ceees2> It says I'm not the owner of the files...
[21:39] <marahin> oh
[21:39] <marahin> then chown user:user filedir
[21:40] <marahin> like chown cees:cees /home/cees/lmao.txt
[21:40] <marahin> it'll make you the owner of lmao.txt file
[21:40] <Ceees2> k let me try
[21:40] <TeamRocket1233c> One of the problems he's having is it don't recognize pressure sensitivity.
[21:40] <ahmedipa> I don't understand
[21:40] <ahmedipa> something
[21:40] <dec0de> TeamRocket1233, I'd make sure he has disabled pressure completely first. I had to do that with my 5
[21:40] <ahmedipa> I have before windows 7 and ubuntu
[21:41] <ahmedipa> after I got that problem
[21:41] <ahmedipa>    	 	 	 	 	 	   error: hd0 out of disk
[21:41] <dec0de> If it works after that then he will probably just need to make a fresh Xsetwacom config file
[21:41] <ahmedipa> I used CD live
[21:41] <ahmedipa> for ubuntu
[21:42] <ahmedipa> then I saw
[21:43] <Ceees2> marahin it says changing ownership of ".." not permitted.
[21:43] <wbf> I need help with a belkin f5d5050
[21:43] <marahin> Ceees2, try sudo chown user:user filedir?
[21:44] <TeamRocket1233c> Will it work if pressure sensitivity's disabled?
[21:44] <marahin> (sudo chown ceees:ceees /home/ceees/lmao.txt)
[21:44] <Ceees2> okay 1 sec
[21:44] <ahmedipa> http://i.imgur.com/hWXLO.png
[21:45] <dec0de> Thats what he needs to test, if it works with it disabled then its probably just a bad config file
[21:45] <wbf> ah O_O
[21:45] <wbf> the pendrive is mounted as /cdrom?
[21:45] <GladIRC> Somebody, that is a Linux Foundation member, could help me with the student membership?
[21:45] <ahmedipa> I will be back
[21:45] <Ceees2> okay that seems to work, but can it unlock all the directories inside it aswell?
[21:46] <TeamRocket1233c> His problem is the driver isn't installed.
[21:46] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U:  I will be back I hope that you understand my problem
[21:46] <wbf> PS: I need a linux driver for the f5d5050
[21:46] <TeamRocket1233c> And he don't know how to install it.
[21:46] <marahin> Ceees2, sure
[21:46] <wbf> and it's a belkin f5d5050
[21:47] <TeamRocket1233c> He downloaded the driver from Wacom, from what he's put out.
[21:47] <Ceees2> It doesn't do that atm
[21:47] <marahin> Ceees2, sudo chown ceees:ceees -R /home/ceees/images/
[21:47] <marahin> yes, you have to add -R flag (as: recursive)
[21:48] <TeamRocket1233c> How does one install the driver for an Intuos4 in Precise?
[21:48] <tqrst> can someone tell me why sound only works on the command line (ctrl-alt-f1 and company) and in gnome? I don't get any sound in xmonad. "alsamixer" shows the proper device - I just can't get any sound out of it.
[21:48] <GladIRC> Somebody, that is a Linux Foundation member, could help me with the student membership?
[21:49] <wbf> Does anyone know about belkin on linux?
[21:49] <bekks> wbf: I bet someone does.
[21:49] <wbf> bekks: who?
[21:49] <bekks> wbf: How about asking your actual question?
[21:49] <TeamRocket1233c> He hasn't downloaded the driver either.
[21:50] <TeamRocket1233c> He's pretty much a Linux noob.
[21:50] <bekks> wbf: Without a question, most likely no one will notice you.
[21:50] <wbf> bekks: I need to use an f5d5050 belkin usb 10/100 internet adapter
[21:50] <blami> wbf:
[21:50] <Ceees2> thanks alot marahin!
[21:50] <TeamRocket1233c> I better go, stuff's getting volatile.
[21:51] <marahin> Ceees2, no problem mate, have fun with Ubu :-)
[21:51] <Jordan_U> wbf: So it's an adaptor that connects via USB and provides an ethernet port?
[21:51] <wbf> yes
[21:51] <wbf> I'm trying to use ubuntu on the ug802.
[21:52] <wbf> so far it boots to the network lines
[21:52] <wbf> then it fails
[21:52] <Jordan_U> wbf: If you plug it in, and plug in an ethernet cable from it to a network of some sort, does the connection appear in network-manager?
[21:52] <agrestringere> Having major wireless problems with the latest Broadcom STA driver
[21:52] <agrestringere> It won't even startup after I install it
[21:53] <kslater> Anyone with BackInTime expertise who would like to lend me a hand getting my install pointed at my backup snapshots?
[21:53] <wbf> Jordan_U: No, because while it's booting it fails because of the internal adapter. Not the external. as in the WIFI inside the UG is the problem
[21:54] <Jordan_U> wbf: Please describe the actual symptoms you're seeing.
[21:55] <wbf> Jordan_U It boots the kernel, and almost everything, then it fails at a certain line
[21:55] <markmm> I have installed 12.10, and was wondering if it is possible in unity to save session like in KDE. So when I logn again it remembers the app and window placement?
[21:55] <Jordan_U> wbf: What line is that? Can you take a picture of the screen and upload it?
[21:55] <wbf> Jordan_U: Okay I will
[21:57] <marahin> markamber, CTRL + ALT + L
[21:58] <kid22> test
[21:59] <agrestringere> Anyone can help with this:  Linux 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu , wireless package used is bcmwl-kernel-source_5.100.82.112+bdcom-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[21:59] <kid22> bbl
[22:00] <markmm> agrestringere: Is that a question?
[22:00] <agrestringere> markmm, yes how can I get Wifi working again?
[22:00] <Perto> /server irc.data.lt join: #mIRC
[22:01] <agrestringere> markmm: the wl module wont even start when I do modprobe and all the blacklists are in place....I don't get it...it won't even start up at boot...
[22:01] <the_admin_> ubuntuers
[22:01] <markmm> I had that exact problem earlier, I had to install linux-headers first before installing the bcmwl
[22:02] <agrestringere> markmm, how do I do that?
[22:02] <keber> hello, in earth is  4 one testicle mans 4 gods, 4 right heart one testicle mans 4 right heart gods and in every sattellite is same
[22:03] <markmm> agrestringere: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[22:03] <the_admin_> ping
[22:04] <WeThePeople> is there a way to do a reinstall of 12.04.1 'Precise' without touching the files on the hdd?
[22:04] <neuroquote> #ubuntu-ru
[22:05] <agrestringere> markmm: linux-headers-generic is already the newest version.
[22:05] <yeats> WeThePeople: are the files you want to save on a separate partition?
[22:05] <blitz> I'm having some serious apt-get issues can anyone give me some advice http://paste.ubuntu.com/1497426/
[22:05] <WeThePeople> yeats no
[22:05] <markmm> When you insalled bcmwl did it show any errors?
[22:05] <agrestringere> let me do it again and see I will pastebin the output
[22:05] <sazawal> I need to install Ubuntu via Networkboot. My DHCP server is working. I have also configured TFTP and I am able to get files on the server-system using tftp localhost -c get testfile. But the client system is showing pxe-e32 tftp open timeout
[22:06] <t00r> test
[22:07] <rsser1> please, could anyone give me link of mark shutlerworth's website?
[22:07] <yeats> WeThePeople: in that case, your best option is probably to back up your files to external media, reinstall, then move the files back
[22:07] <WeThePeople> yeats, ok
[22:07] <yeats> WeThePeople: and when you reinstall, partition your drive so you have a separate partition (like /home) for your files you don't want to overwrite during upgrades/reinstalls
[22:08] <yeats> WeThePeople: or use LVM for the same purpose
[22:08] <WeThePeople> yeats, good idea
[22:08] <kslater> WeThePeople: none of the files on the hard disk? What would the reinstall be doing then?
[22:08] <blitz> I'm having some serious apt-get issues can anyone give me some advice http://paste.ubuntu.com/1497426/ libsane is stuck
[22:08] <agrestringere> markmm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1497436/
[22:09] <WeThePeople> kslater, i was hoping just the ubuntu files for proper booting, their are 'broken pipes' at boot
[22:09] <yeats> blitz: does 'sudo apt-get -f install' help?
[22:10] <kslater> I'll just warn you that I was in that position and managed to nuke my home directory. Luckily BackInTime had done a snapshot as recently as a few days back
[22:10] <yeats> blitz: you might also try moving /etc/sane.d/fujitsu.conf to see if that helps
[22:11] <blitz> yeats that's what I ran to get the error
[22:11] <blitz> yeah I'll mv the conf I guess
[22:11] <Desproges> Hi, is that the good place to get advice about upgrading an old ubuntu version (10.10) ?
[22:11] <blitz> moving it didn't help
[22:12] <MarKsaitis> there is a landscape user acc on my system, what does it mean and how do I know this user cant login?
[22:12] <markmm> agrestringere: I assume you rebooted?
[22:12] <yeats> blitz: same error?
[22:12] <Desproges> (ubuntu server)
[22:12] <agrestringere> markmm: yes
[22:12] <blitz> no, different conf file this time
[22:12] <blitz> ill just keep moving
[22:12] <yeats> Desproges: you're almost certainly in for a reinstall
[22:12] <yeats> Desproges: and I'd recommend using LTS on servers for exactly this reason
[22:12] <markmm> agrestringere: is it a laptop? Does it have a wireless switch, maybe it is off?
[22:13] <Desproges> just changing the /etc/apt/sources.list is a bad idea so ?
[22:13] <agrestringere> markmm, it does but it's on at the moment
[22:13] <yeats> Desproges: yeah - I wouldn't expect that to work
[22:14] <blitz> I just removed all the confs and it wrote new ones
[22:14] <markmm> agrestringere: Not sure then, when I installed it the module loaded and I had wireless.  Sorry
[22:14] <ahmedipa> back
[22:15] <lonewulf85> Hello can anyone help with Rhythmbox not playing last.fm stations
[22:15] <ahmedipa> I think my problem related with hard disk
[22:15] <yeats> blitz: so it's working now?
[22:15] <nubie> I've used linux since '96 and I've used pritty much nothing but the GUI the whole time, I do some pretty complex tasks on my machine too, and I've never had trouble... except that ppl always seem to preach that one should learn the command line, now I know the basics, but I beg to differ with these hardcore CLI ppl, so I wanna know why? What have you achieved so much greater than I by using the CLI?
[22:15] <xight> Hi all
[22:16] <blitz> I think so yeats thanks for the help
[22:17] <t00r> quit
[22:17] <keber> i wanna see golden egg, what kills my one testicle
[22:17] <trendynick> It seems I can access everything (even encrypted drive with 80% known password), and no obvious corruption of data =»
[22:17] <markmm> nubie: You can't pipe data from one GUI app to another, it's about using commands together
[22:18] <lonewulf85> Please last.fm stations not working
[22:18] <ahmedipa> before I have windows 7 on // sda1
[22:18] <yaymukund> dumb question, but what's the terminal in ubuntu headless mode?
[22:18] <ahmedipa> and ubuntu on // sda 4
[22:18] <ahmedipa> now I find this
[22:18] <markmm> yaymukund: bash?
[22:18] <sazawal> I want to set up TFTP for ubuntu installation via Networkboot. I am using tftp-hpa as tftp server. It is working fine when I try to get files on the server-system using this command "tftp localhost -c get testfile". The client system gets connected via DHCP server and then shows this error "pxe-e32 tftp open timeout"
[22:18] <ahmedipa> parttition
[22:18] <ahmedipa> http://i.imgur.com/hWXLO.png
[22:19] <wbf> Jordan_U: http://flickcabin.com/public/viewset/47807 (In a convenient set so you can look at them)
[22:19] <ahmedipa> may be the problem related to hard disk ??
[22:19] <yaymukund> markmm: not the shell, but the terminal itself. I'm trying to mess with the cursor blink :p
[22:19] <DJones> keber: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:19] <wbf> Jordan_U: at the end it says stopping lxc
[22:19] <guntbert> Desproges: see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html please
[22:20] <markmm> yaymukund: check inittab
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: That screenshot is showing your USB drive, not your internal drive.
[22:21] <guntbert> !ot | nubie
[22:21] <wbf> Jordan_U: did you see those screenshots?
[22:21] <markmm> yaymukund: Sorry, seems like ubuntu has not inittab
[22:21] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U:  aha so what do you think my problem
[22:21] <Jordan_U> wbf: Yes, though it's hard to read anything from any of them.
[22:22] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U: my problem is that I had windows 7 and ubuntu
[22:22] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: I told you what your problem is already. You have a buggy BIOS.
[22:22] <wbf> Jordan_U: it says at the end stopping lxc or something
[22:22] <yaymukund> markmm: yeah, I just figured that out :p but I can dig through here. there's init.d/console-setup
[22:22] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U:  how can I solve this problem
[22:22] <shivy> Can anyone help with problem with ati radeon card and 3d display on ubuntu studio?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: Try to find a BIOS update that fixes the bug, or create a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive.
[22:23] <wbf> Jordan_U: this is what I'm looking at and I did: http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/41453-pre-alpha-02-ubuntu-linux-for-mk802-iii-ug802-mk808/
[22:25] <Akuma> hello, how can I make xrandr settings permanent without using a xorg config file?
[22:25] <ahmedipa>  Jordan_U: I will try to find out using google
[22:26] <Jordan_U> wbf: That guide is for an older release, and says "Superseded by Pre-Alpha 0.3" at the top. Why are you following that guide? Also note that for such a modified system #ubuntu isn't really an apropriate place to get support.
[22:27] <wbf> Jordan_U: I am trying to say I accidentally installed pre alpha 0.0.1
[22:28] <Jordan_U> wbf: So install the latest release.
[22:28] <wbf> Jordan_U: I cannot I tried the emerjency flash procedure it did not work
[22:29] <ahmedipa>  Jordan_U: searching about BIOS update
[22:29] <wbf> Jordan_U: trying to manually modify xorg.conf. maybe that's the problem
[22:30] <sazawal> I want to set up TFTP for ubuntu installation via Networkboot. I am using tftp-hpa as tftp server. It is working fine when I try to get files on the server-system using this command "tftp localhost -c get testfile". The client system gets connected via DHCP server and then shows this error "pxe-e32 tftp open timeout"
[22:30] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U: do you think that    	 	 	 	 	 	   http://thoughtsdaily.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/update-dell-bios-in-ubuntu/
[22:30] <ahmedipa>   
[22:30] <Jordan_U> wbf: Please get support for that from whatever forum is provided for this. #ubuntu is not the right place for support, and trying to fix a known buggy old release of a distribution rather than fixing the actual problem you're having installing the current version is silly.
[22:30] <trendynick> nubie: in CLI tasks are faster sometimes (a 20k+ copy of files is significantly slower in GUI than CLI), less cpu use - sometimes they matter, but other than AIX or enterprise on the cheap (RHEL or cheaper) is really irrelevant if you're not in some poverty time, but I woulnd't say more as I am still in that time (for external reasons) and some get histerical if I say those saving are irrelevant in comparisson with others (even included)
[22:30] <ahmedipa> this site solve this problem
[22:31] <wbf> Jordan_U: Okay. bye. it's actually 12.04 LTS when it boots but OKAY.
[22:31] <lonewulf85> Any ideas on last.fm failure in rhythmbox
[22:31] <bekks> lonewulf85: Whats the error message then?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: If this is a Dell machine, then yes that may help (as long as a newer BIOS image is available and fixes this bug).
[22:33] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U:  this is Dell machine
[22:33] <ahmedipa> I hope that my problem will be fixed
[22:33] <ahmedipa> but I found this problem after I typed
[22:33] <cham> help
[22:33] <ahmedipa> sudo apt-get install smbios-utils
[22:34] <ominomi> :)
[22:34] <ahmedipa> E: Unable to locate package smbios-utils
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> cham  start with a question
[22:34] <cham> hey guys does anyone know why /media/ is empty
[22:34] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | root_
[22:34] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U:  E: Unable to locate package smbios-utils
[22:34] <lonewulf85> bekks: there is no error message there is just nothing when i click the station it looks like it is loading but then nothing
[22:35] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: Are you booted into a liveCD currently?
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> cham  what do you expect to be there?
[22:35] <cham> cdrom0
[22:35] <ahmedipa> Jordan_U:  yes
[22:35] <Jordan_U> ahmedipa: sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smbios-utils
[22:36] <devlos> hi, im wodering if someone can help me out with lxde.. i have no background only black, if i try to change to an image or solid color (anything at all but black) nothing happens.
[22:36] <cham> MonkeyDust cdrom0
[22:36] <sakang> is deb-src really necessary in sources.list?
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> cham  i don't have cdrom0 there, either
[22:36] <Guest98965> hi all
[22:37] <cham> MonkeyDust: then what do you have
[22:37] <ahmedipa>  Jordan_U:  You are right
[22:37] <ahmedipa>  Jordan_U:  done
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> cham  mounted external disks or usb sticks
[22:38] <Guest52619> hiall
[22:38] <cham> MonkeyDust where i'm i supposed to find my internal disk
[22:39] <Guest52619> under ur bed
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> cham  not sure what you mean... you mean your hard disks?
[22:39] <Guest52619> so
[22:39] <lonewulf85> Guest52619: Hanging with the dust bunnies?
[22:39] <Guest52619> any girl on line
[22:39] <cham> MonkeyDust i mean my CD/DVD
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> cham  insert a CD and type mount in a terminal
[22:40] <ichat> Guest45
[22:40] <ichat> gue4
[22:40] <ichat> s
[22:40] <ichat> damn
[22:40] <zteam> Hi Guys!
[22:40] <Guest52619> hi
[22:40] <ichat> guest56 sy
[22:41] <ichat> my wih
[22:41] <ichat> fe
[22:41] <Desproges> guntbert, thanks you. I wanted to use do-release-upgrade  but it try to upgrade the system first and display lot of "error mirror not found"
[22:41] <zteam> Anybody knows where I can upgrade VLC to 2.05?
[22:41] <zteam> for Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:41] <ichat> ztem, there is  a  ppa for that
[22:42] <cham> MonkeyDust: you wanna see the output ?
[22:42] <guntbert> Desproges: best check what mirror you are using
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> cham  no, but so you can see where to find the cdrom
[22:43] <cham> MonkeyDust there is no cdrom in it
[22:44] <Zohan> hello guys
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> cham  you can't see what's not there
[22:44] <Desproges> guntbert, deb ftp://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick
[22:44] <ichat> Guest52619,  just keep out of my private messages without asking  im not a  callgirl.. hell im not even female
[22:44] <Zohan> I need help with my fan, it's running on high speed all the time.
[22:44] <Zohan> Do you have any solutions?
[22:46] <ichat> zohan ... cut the wires   or use some fanspeed aplication ... there must be one out there
[22:46] <Emandab1> desproges, i think Guest52619 may be a bot - they just connected with me too - that's what ignore is for
[22:46] <Zohan> ichat: do you have any tip on fanspeed aplications?
[22:46] <fourq> Does it make sense that I have to 'sudo' my editor every time I want to use it? If I don't I can't save. Is this because I installed it in opt/ instead of home/ ?
[22:46] <usr13> Zohan: If it were mine, I'd be wanting it to run high speed so that my processor would not over-heat.
[22:47] <guntbert> Desproges: I'd change to the standard mirror first
[22:47] <Desproges> Emandab1, I didn't mentionned Guest52619, did I ?
[22:47] <ichat> no  but i could google one  and so could you
[22:47] <Emandab1> no - ichat did - my bad
[22:47] <Benxyzzy> When I do
[22:47] <Benxyzzy> nohup museekd &
[22:47] <Benxyzzy> at bash it prints some text and waits on a blank line. When I hit enter (to get back to the prompt), it says "Stopped" - i.e. the job is stopped. The whole point of nohup (and ampersand) is to run processes into the background, so why does the job immediately stop?
[22:47] <FloodBot1> Benxyzzy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <Emandab1> your message was just above his and i misread it
[22:47] <ichat> Emandab1,  what did i do?
[22:48] <ichat> ow lol
[22:48] <Emandab1> you mentioned guest52619 - they started a private chat with me too
[22:49] <Emandab1> i actually was hoping to get help on a question and not talk about whether you are male or female
[22:49] <Emandab1> I've been playing around with portable ubuntu on thumb drive and so far am rather unhappy with what I've been able to create
[22:49] <ichat> its a bit sad no? -
[22:49] <Emandab1> a bit
[22:49] <ariel__> can someone tell me where the root directory in my server
[22:50] <Kion1> where in the file system is the file with my ppp sources?
[22:50] <Benxyzzy> arial__ : /root?
[22:50] <ichat> Emandab1,  - sorry cant help you with that
[22:50] <Emandab1> all the portable solutions i've tried seem to have limited persistence and are organized as an install CD (eg: use squashfs) - can i do better
[22:50] <Guest20572> benxyzzy is that a directory
[22:50] <Benxyzzy> arial__ : do you meant the home directory of the root user, or the root of the filesystem ?
[22:51] <Kion1> when I actualized to 12.10 somehow the daily Freecad got # commented
[22:51] <Kion1> where is the file to uncomment it
[22:51] <Emandab1> no problem ichat - you helped me know that you're not a female - that's help enough :-O
[22:51] <Zohan> Ichat: Sorry, my browser did freeze as always
[22:51] <Desproges> That's the point,  guntbert, maverick does not exists anymore :s
[22:51] <Zohan> So you do have any applications where i can reduce fan noise=
[22:51] <Benxyzzy> Guest20572: ls -Altrh /
[22:51] <Benxyzzy> drwx------   3 root root 4.0K Sep 25 13:14 root
[22:52] <Benxyzzy> (yes)
[22:52] <guntbert> Desproges: let met check something
[22:52] <ichat> zohan no i dont, i told you to google. ...  or even use the ubuntu app center its search is quite oke
[22:52] <Emandab1> zohan - replacing the fan is probably best if you can do that
[22:52] <ichat> i usually find what im looking for in a couple of minutes
[22:52] <Guest20572> benxyzzy you mean in the terminal?
[22:52] <Desproges> sure, and thanks you for your time anyway :)
[22:53] <ichat> Emandab1,  i am glad i was able to help (at least partially :P
[22:53] <F3Speech> Hey guys just a quick question, why does 'cd' fail when you run it with sudo?
[22:53] <Emandab1> alas - no help on portable linux - anyone??
[22:53] <cham> MonkeyDust after an update to ubuntu my CD/DVD is not recognized in Dolphine nor brasero
[22:53] <Emandab1> cd is a shell command
[22:53] <Benxyzzy> Guest20572: Yes type
[22:53] <Benxyzzy> ls -Altrh /
[22:53] <Benxyzzy> at the terminal and you will see. Asuming Arial__ 's question is what we're talking about and not my question
[22:54] <Emandab1> f3speech - cd is a shell command not an executable
[22:54] <Emandab1> so sudo can't find it to run it
[22:54] <bekks> Emandab1: Whats your actual problem you are facing with a portable Ubuntu?
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> cham  dolphin... kubuntu?
[22:54] <Emandab1> no problem - just no satisfaction
[22:54] <bekks> Emandab1: Because cd is a shell builtin and no command.
[22:54] <cham> MonkeyDust yeah
[22:55] <F3Speech> Always assumed you could prefix any line with sudo and have it run
[22:55] <bekks> F3Speech: Which is wrong.
[22:55] <Emandab1> i want my linux on a thumbdrive to behave like linux on my hard drive
[22:55] <Blue1> F3Speech: bad assumption
[22:55] <Benxyzzy> F3Speech: Temporarily become the root user with sudo su and then run cd?
[22:55] <Guest20572> Benxyzzy what does that have to do with what im talking about
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> cham  no experience with kde/dolphin, sorry
[22:55] <Emandab1> i want it to use the 32 gigs of space - perform with equal or near-equal speed (I have a hopping fast USB)
[22:56] <F3Speech> Blue1:  apparently so lol
[22:56] <bekks> Benxyzzy: sudo su is a bad approach. Just use sudo -i
[22:56] <Benxyzzy> Guest20572: Nothing, you asked me
[22:56] <cham> MonkeyDust yeah it's not recognized with nautilus either
[22:56] <Blue1> F3Speech: just got here what is it you are trying to do?
[22:56] <Emandab1> F3Speech: you probably are doing something wrong if you are trying to cd with sudo
[22:56] <F3Speech> not really an issue just wondered got used to been in here last few days, though hell ill just ask :)
[22:57] <Guest20572> its a server question where is phpbb it says the root directory to change a file
[22:57] <Zohan> ok, so ubntu freezes all the time. Do you have any ideas why it does that?
[22:57] <guntbert> Desproges: that was a misconception (here), I thought "server" was supported longer
[22:57] <Zohan> happens a lot when I play flash
[22:57] <WeThePeople> how do i access home dir in a guest session?
[22:58] <rsser1> is there any ubuntu mobile to test?
[22:58] <Emandab1> F3Speech: if you run "$ which cd" you'll see that no command is found - ditto for "$ man cd"
[22:58] <bekks> WeThePeople: The guest session is not designed to do so.
[22:58] <Blue1> WeThePeople: cd ~
[22:58] <Emandab1> F3Speech: the doc for cd is inside of "man bash"
[22:58] <bekks> WeThePeople: You can only access the home directory of the guest user.
[22:58] <WeThePeople> bekks, is there a hack i can use
[22:58] <Benxyzzy> bekks: You're right, I stand corrected. Although it is recommended in Ubuntu's documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[22:59] <Blue1> WeThePeople: there's no place like home
[22:59] <guntbert> Desproges: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades seems outdated, but you should be able to get by
[22:59] <Emandab1> F3Speech: the reason cd can't be an executable is because it tweaks the kernel's internal data about the current process - if you run it as a command as sudo would do then you're changing the current directory for the wrong processs
[22:59] <bekks> Blue1: ?
[22:59] <cham> my cd/dvd is not recognized after an update
[22:59] <WeThePeople> bekks, do you know how to fix broken pipes?
[22:59] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: Looking back at your older question, you actually can re-install Ubuntu while preserving /home/, even when it's not on a separate partition.
[22:59] <bekks> WeThePeople: Huh? What do you mean exactly?
[23:00] <Emandab1> WeThePeople: i've found that duct tape works well on broken pipes
[23:00] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, do you have a link
[23:00] <WeThePeople> lol
[23:00] <XDS2012> hi guys
[23:00] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: What is your end goal with the guest session?
[23:00] <danny> how to i make a unity webapp for gmail to open in chrome or chromium would rather chrome
[23:01] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, i just need to login to my super user account. there are two error msg. 1) cannot upgrade .ICEauthority file, 2) cannot write byte broken pipe
[23:02] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, guest session works
[23:02] <guntbert> WeThePeople: thast what you get for sudoing for a GUI app
[23:02] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: That first error is the result of using sudo to run a GUI app, instead of using gksudo. Never use sudo with GUI apps.
[23:02] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, i use sudo nautilus once
[23:02] <xangua> !phone | danny
[23:03] <WeThePeople> used*
[23:03] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: You can fix it by either using ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a text terminal (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back) and fix the permissions, or reboot into recovery mode and fix the permissions.
[23:03] <wbf> Where is the Xorg.conf in ubuntu 12.10?
[23:04] <XDS2012> man i wish apple would act more like ubuntu sometimes
[23:04] <guntbert> WeThePeople: once is one too many
[23:04] <bekks> wbf: It does not exist by default.
[23:04] <usr13> WeThePeople: Why did you do it?  What did you do with nautilus as super user?
[23:04] <danny> xangua: not sure how that helped me or evan led me in the right direction to help myself i want to make a unity shortcut to my gmail
[23:04] <wbf> Well does it work?
[23:04] <wbf> when I put in an xorg in 12.10?
[23:04] <usr13> wbf: You mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> wbf: If you create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf it will be used, yes. Why?
[23:04] <wbf> Yes.
[23:04] <bekks> wbf: If it is in the right place, sure.
[23:04] <wbf> Thank you.
[23:04] <WeThePeople> usr13, i forget it has to do with a selection gui of more programs
[23:05] <WeThePeople> guntbert, but then i used gksudo afterward again
[23:07] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, fix the permissions of nautilus?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: No, fix the permissions of ~/.ICEauthority .
[23:08] <frustrated> could anyone let me know why the program redshift doesn't work in ubuntu gnome3?
[23:08] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, it is fixed
[23:08] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, i have done that already
[23:09] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: Are you still having a problem logging in?
[23:09] <WeThePeople> it has rw capability and owned by super user
[23:09] <WeThePeople> yes
[23:09] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: It's not supposed to be owned by root, it's supposed to be owned by your user.
[23:09] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, ace:ace
[23:09] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: It's owned by root because you started a GUI application with sudo instead of gksudo.
[23:10] <WeThePeople> that is my user
[23:10] <WeThePeople> i did it correctly
[23:10] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: For future reference, "super user" is synonimous with "root".
[23:10] <WeThePeople> ok
[23:13] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: What happens now when you try to login?
[23:13] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, to my user account.. 1 moment pls
[23:17] <spiffman> hi, I tried to set up dual boot 32-bit and 64-bit ubuntu and now one constantly gives me "gave up waiting for root device" error and doesn't boot
[23:17] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, here is the msg exatly.. Could not update ICEauthority file /home/ace/.ICEauthority    <<<>>> and their is a Logout button too
[23:18] <spiffman> when i run blkid in busybox, the drive containing my ubuntu partitions doesn't show up...
[23:18] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Are the Ubuntu installations on different drives or on different partitions on the same drive?
[23:18] <spiffman> Jordan_U, different partitions of the same drive
[23:19] <schultza> on the server, how come the 'sudo apt-get upgrade' doesnt upgrade everything?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo blkid" from the working install?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> !dist-upgrade | schultza
[23:20] <spiffman> Jordan_U, sure, hold on a sec (using live usb)
[23:20] <rsser1> Jordan_U: ubuntu mobile
[23:20] <Jordan_U> spiffman: From the LiveUSB works just as well.
[23:20] <rsser1> oops, sorry I thought Jordan_U was a bot
[23:22] <John___> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu in VMWare but the desktop is odd. There are no toolbars, just the wallpaper
[23:22] <sysdoc> John___, vmware tools installed yet?
[23:23] <spiffman> Jordan_U, blkid: http://pastebin.com/qe6KKX2G
[23:23] <John___> sysdoc: Yes
[23:23] <spiffman> Jordan_U, parted: http://pastebin.com/DqBUbtHx
[23:24] <spiffman> Jordan_U, i have an ssd with windows (separate drive) and have both ubuntu partitions on the WD drive
[23:24] <spiffman> Jordan_U, and have a partition for /home
[23:25] <schultza> !upgrade
[23:25] <spiffman> Jordan_U, and finally, 650gb ntfs space for media
[23:25] <spiffman> bit of a strange setup :-P
[23:26] <wbf> Okay so what happened was I am in console now, but I cannot join a wifi network nor does it detect my usb 10/100 internet card
[23:26] <wbf> So, I'm basically stuck
[23:27] <Kion1> I installed my msn account on empathy and now every 10 minutes I have a window saying some accound is asking for  permission to see when I connect, how do i get rid of that??
[23:27] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, these problems only have to do with ubuntu and ubuntu 2d. i am logged into flux box and have access to my user
[23:29] <Desproges> thanks again guntbert, I will check that in the coming days
[23:29] <bugtraq> klk
[23:29] <bugtraq> akuma
[23:30] <schultza> kion, i believe that is ppl asking you to add you to their contact list... and empathy likes to keep a local copy of your contacts, so i will do that for every contact
[23:30] <schultza> once approved for those contacts, empathy will stop asking
[23:31] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Which install is failing to boot, the 32 or 64 bit one?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: Just to be absolutely sure, what is the output of "ls -l ~/.ICEauthority"?
[23:34] <blackline> For the last couple of days I've tried to get the best solution for unpacking RAR archives with multiple files. I've gone through tons of forum threads and a couple of blogs. Most of them have recommended the Archiver included with Ubuntu in combination with unrar-nonfree. Many have stated that this will work. I've installed unrar-nonfree and it won't unpack the RAR archives I have that are divided and follows the pathern part01.rar, part0
[23:34] <blackline> 2.rar etc. Neither the once going .rar, .r01, etc. So, guys. What shoud I use to be able to extract at least all rar archives or in best case most archives?!
[23:34] <spiffman> Jordan_U, the 64 bit one, on /dev/sdb4
[23:34] <blackline> I'm trying Peazip now but i'm not very impressed at what I've seen yet.
[23:37] <olynch> :q
[23:38] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, -rw------- 1 ace ace 1423 Jan  4 00:52 .ICEauthority
[23:39] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: Please run the exact command I gave.
[23:39] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, i did
[23:39] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Connand is unrar <first file in series>.
[23:40] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, -rw------- 1 ace ace 1423 Jan  4 00:52 /home/ace/.ICEauthority
[23:40] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: The exact command I gave, "ls -l ~/.ICEauthority" , will cause ls to print the full path to the file.
[23:40] <olynch> Hello
[23:40] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, Yes I know how to do it in terminal but that's not very family friendly. I would like a gui.
[23:40] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: If you use something like pan it will do it for you.
[23:41] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, so isnt there anything comparable to winrar that can let me do all this in an interface?
[23:41] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: unrar doesn't have a gui.  Some utilities like ark might handle it but I doubt.  Be a man and use the cli.
[23:41] <alexhairyman> jhutchins_wk +1
[23:42] <spiffman> is there any way to instruct grub2 to use the root=/dev/sdx format instead of the default root=uuid=XXX-XXX format?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: Very odd, I don't know why you're getting that error then.
[23:42] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Yes, but why do you want to do that? (it's less reliable)
[23:42] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, like most of the times i download like 10-15 episodes of something, extracting them all at the sime time at my desktop. they are all in different directories from start. I suppose I could use something to make this easy but it seems really unconvinient having to use terminal.
[23:43] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, what is this pan thingie then?
[23:43] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[23:43] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, it might be a third party program, or since i have been messin around with mysql and postgres apache xammp maybe that might be why
[23:43] <spiffman> Jordan_U, looking on forums, it mentioned this as a possible solution. at this point, when i'm at the busybox boot, it doesn't even show the device
[23:43] <HackinBlack> Hello
[23:43] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, if i at least could get a right click context menu option for the unrar that would make a big difference.
[23:43] <Jordan_U> spiffman: No, that defninitely won't help you.
[23:43] <GeorgeJ> I've installed deluged and deluge-web, however, deluge-web doesn't seem to start at boot, so I've written an upstart job, as suggested on deluge-s page.
[23:44] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fsck /dev/sda4"?
[23:44] <HackinBlack> Hello
[23:44] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Sorry, sdb4.
[23:44] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: You can extract them all in parallel.  I usually do it in the directories they're in then move the files.
[23:45] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: It's a function that a GUI would have a hard time with and a CLI does very well.
[23:45] <GeorgeJ> But for some reason, since deluged doesn't have an upstart job, deluge-web doesn't seem to be able to start when delgued starts. Here's my upstart job: http://tny.cz/19e0ab2a
[23:46] <GeorgeJ> Meh, I'll use ubuntu's paste, sorry
[23:46] <WeThePeople> how do i force a update of untrusted packages?
[23:46] <rachel_> Anyone handy at memory testing with memtester(8)?
[23:46] <spiffman> Jordan_U, fsck: http://pastebin.com/3dDSnYHU
[23:46] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, so how would i proceeed doing this in terminal without having to browse through lets say 15 different folders?
[23:46] <Guest51928> hey can someone help me with my broadcom wifi drivers for macbook pro 13inch or lack there of i guess i need the drivers?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> spiffman: Can you mount it successfully with "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/"?
[23:47] <blackline> sorry for being a pain in the ass but i see myself having to cd-browse through 10-20 folders a week unraring in compare to double click - extract, double click, extract.
[23:47] <GeorgeJ> Here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1497681/ The file is located at /etc/init/deluge-web.conf. sudo service deluge-web start works. However, should deluge-web not start automatically when I do sudo service deluged start, because of the first line in the upstart job?
[23:47] <spiffman> Jordan_U, yup, just did no problem
[23:47] <stijn> hi
[23:48] <stijn> I istalled ubuntu tpday
[23:48] <stijn> 12.10
[23:48] <blackline> stijn, congrats ;)
[23:48] <stijn> now it boots to an black screen
[23:49] <stijn> I explain my problem over here put know one seems to know http://askubuntu.com/questions/236330/laptop-wont-boot-at-all
[23:50] <GeorgeJ> Should I be asking in #ubuntu-dev?
[23:50] <anonymous> Hm.
[23:50] <anonymous> So let me get this right.
[23:50] <anonymous> Nothing?
[23:51] <anonymous> Not even the normal BIOS boot display?
[23:51] <stijn> pardon?
[23:51] <dr_willis> Bios Messages -> grub menu -> Plymouth Splash -> Login screen.. :) where does it stop.
[23:51] <stijn> no, just black screen and noises thennit shutsdown in 5 sec
[23:52] <dr_willis> Hmm. Noises? like 3 or 5 beeps?
[23:52] <stijn> I turn on my laptop. I g
[23:52] <stijn> no, my cd drive i think
[23:53] <dr_willis> so the cd is clicking/looking for a disk. then the whole thing just powers down.
[23:53] <atlef> stijn, it seems you used wubi, maybe you should try to boot from the cd/usb to test it live first
[23:53] <stijn> I turn on my laptop. it gives me a black screen, no bar or text, no its not purple. shift doesnt work. then it shuts itself down 5sec later
[23:53] <stijn> yes i did
[23:54] <anonymous> I remember using Wubi as an Ubuntu noob...*shiver*.
[23:54] <anonymous> Never again.
[23:54] <Goldwing> exit
[23:54] <Goldwing> oops
[23:54] <anonymous> Abandon ship?
[23:54]  * anonymous waves
[23:54] <ikonia> anonymous: do you need/want something ?
[23:54] <dr_willis> A live cd does work?
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> stijn: Bad RAM, bad hard disk, possibly bad video.
[23:54] <stijn> haha alright. ill try an usb tomorrow
[23:55] <anonymous> You can't try a USB unless you can get to the BIOS, as jhut says, it's probably a hardware failure.
[23:55] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, actually i just realized one thing when it comes to the extracting of rar files.
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> stijn: stijn If you're not seeing the BIOS it's serious hardware.
[23:55] <anonymous> Coincidence, I'm causing...
[23:55] <stijn> did you see my post at askubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/236330/laptop-wont-boot-at-all
[23:55] <anonymous> It just so happened to occur at this time, unrelated to Wubi, Wubi still sucks though.
[23:55] <stijn> I have an link to my laptops spec over there
[23:56] <anonymous> guessing*
[23:56] <jhutchins_wk> stijn: If there are any easy-to-access components you can try re-seating them, and pay attention to the sounds the HD makes when you turned it on.
[23:56] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, it seems the issue was never the File Roller+unrar-nonfree - The files I tried to unrar where on  a network drive but when I moved them locally to my hard drive there was no issue unraring them. Had the same issue with Peazip. So it's actually trying to unrar from the samba share that isn't working.
[23:56] <blami> jhutchins_wk: but still it would at least boot to bios screen even with broken hdd
[23:57] <blami> stijn: do you have ac connected to your laptop? (in case battery is dead)
[23:57] <stijn> I have, its fuly charged
[23:57] <blami> stijn: what kind of laptop is it?
[23:58] <stijn> my laptop http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/0000/Acer/Aspire5735Z/Aspire5735Zsp3.shtml
[23:58] <anonymous> Hm, try removing the battery, then booting without it.
[23:58] <anonymous> It's perfectly safe.
[23:58] <stijn> booting without the battery? lol
[23:59] <Transhumanist> You should unplug the battery when you're using mains and the battery is charged anyway
[23:59] <anonymous> Yep, I do it all the time.
[23:59] <stijn> lol ill try i guess. nothing to lose
[23:59] <Transhumanist> I think modern laptops have circuits to try and prevent battery overcharging, but it's easy and safest (in terms of minimising electricity consumption and battery degradation) to just use mains without the battery in.