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ScottKI've been seeing occasional brightness flickering with 4.9.4.03:18
ScottKIIRC someone else mentioned it as well.03:18
* ScottK wonders if https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/285553edce61f65a88d9067136bf138e44efb149/diff might be the cause.03:18
ScottKafiestas: ^^^ could that fix have introduced a race condition?03:19
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1072263] plasma-desktop crashes at start-up with scripted image widget @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1072263 (by Vertago1)04:20
shadeslayerQuantal builds seem to be done as well06:07
shadeslayershould I just copy them over to beta backports?06:07
soeeyes!06:10
soee:)06:11
shadeslayeroh a tester06:15
shadeslayersoee: I'll copy them over to staging, can you test?06:15
soeesure06:15
shadeslayergimme a couple of minutes06:16
soeeok ill be back in 5, im going to eat something06:16
shadeslayersoee: script is running, packages should land here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages06:18
shadeslayerall done06:22
shadeslayersoee: once you test, just poke someone and they'll copy to the beta backports PPA06:29
shadeslayerI've gtg 06:29
shadeslayercya06:29
soeehmm06:31
soeei have added staging ppa06:31
soeebut i see no packages to be updated 06:31
soeeonly this: http://pastebin.com/73V5biUr06:32
soeebut they are not related to rc206:32
soeeok now it starting to see rc2 packages06:37
soeei thnik some 'backgraound' stuff has to be done before pakckages are visible :)06:38
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1071453] Dolphin doesn't store samba share password @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 (by Pascal Korz)06:51
soee4.9.97 for Quantal tested and works fine, no problems during update07:15
afiestasScottK: yes09:20
afiestasI have been trying to fix it09:20
afiestasbut it is hard to reproduce09:20
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
mikhasQuintasan, am removing the version library suffixes from all the Maliit libraries -- quite some work!10:52
Quintasan\o/10:53
QuintasanBe sure to poke me when there is a release which has that10:53
mikhasQuintasan, is it acceptable if the soname's ABI version changes with every release?10:53
mikhassay, libmaliit.so.0.93 and then at some point libmaliit.so.0.94?10:53
Quintasanmikhas: It should be okay as long as you don't drop any publicly exported symbols10:54
QuintasanIt is okay even if you DO drop symbols but then it will take some work10:54
mikhaswhat do I have to do *if* I drop symbols?10:54
mikhasincrease the major version number and ???10:54
Quintasanmikhas: Would be nice to tell me which symbols were dropped so I have less c++filt mangling job10:55
QuintasanScottK: ^ I would appreciate if you could tell me if I missed anything10:55
mikhascant tell tbh, we are still in unstable release cycle, so symbols come and go …10:56
mikhaswe try to be careful with what we export, however10:56
QuintasanIt's not the end of the world if you drop stuff. We will both have to do some more stuff but if we cooperate more or less it should be easily managable10:57
mikhasQuintasan, "MIMPluginManager(std::tr1::shared_ptr<MInputContextConnection> icConnection, QSharedPointer<Maliit::Server::AbstractSurfaceGroupFactory>)" changed to "MIMPluginManager(const QSharedPointer<MInputContextConnection>& icConnection, const QSharedPointer<Maliit::Server::AbstractSurfaceGroupFactory>& factory)", but that's part of an internal library, not sure it counts as exported for your case, however.10:59
mikhas(what a horrible long function definition)10:59
Quintasannot public?10:59
Quintasanwe don't care :P11:00
mikhaswell, you could check whether you had this symbol in your list, then I would know that this presumed-to-be-private library needs some work, too11:00
Quintasanmikhas: So far I have no symbols file11:01
mikhasor let's ask the other way around: did you package libmaliit-connection?11:02
QuintasanI would have to disable tests to get them since they currently fail11:02
mikhasin which sense to the tests fail?!11:02
Quintasanmikhas: Is that part of maliit-framework? if so then what directory are we talking about11:02
mikhascan you pastebin your output of "make check"?11:02
Quintasanmikhas: They fail because X magic I believe11:02
Quintasanxvfb is probably not enough to execute the test in the buildd11:03
mikhasBut that should only be a couple of tests, not all.11:03
QuintasanI'll give you the whole log in a minute11:03
mikhasQuintasan, perhaps you could cook up a patch that properly checks for X11 in those tests (some define or so) and skips them conditionally?11:04
QuintasanI can but I'm not sure how archive admins will like that11:04
QuintasanScottK: ^?11:04
QuintasanWe can leave this for later11:04
mikhasNo one likes packages without any tests. Especially if we package -dev packages.11:05
QuintasanI don't have anything that looks like libmaliit-connection in my debian/control file11:05
mikhasQuintasan, right. We could move tests to a separate -test package in any case, if not already done11:05
Quintasanif this is a part of maliit-framework and it needs to be a binary package then I'll need to grep my install files11:05
Quintasanseparate binary package*11:06
mikhasno! it's private and shall remain private :-)11:06
mikhasbut let me check where we hide it, true11:06
mikhasbut of maliit-framework package, sigh, so we do install all that crap11:07
mikhas*part11:07
QuintasanHURRRRRRRRRRR11:11
Quintasanpbuilder permissions already broken11:11
Quintasanwtf11:11
Quintasanmikhas: http://paste.kde.org/63800611:13
QuintasanHere is the buildlog11:13
mikhasoki11:13
Quintasanon the bottom you should have output of make check11:13
Riddellis launchpad working for anyone for packages?  I just get timeouts on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs11:14
QuintasanRiddell: timeout11:14
Riddellhumbug11:14
QuintasanLunchpad - eats your time11:15
mikhasI would laugh if it wasn't so true.11:16
mikhasIf only the Jan 2nd announcement would have been: "Guys, we drop bzr and make Launchpad use github/gitorious/… instead."11:17
Quintasanlol nope11:17
Quintasannot going to happen T_T11:17
Riddellthat wouldn't help it doing timeouts loading a web page11:19
mikhasoutsourcing part of your infra to more reliable services? surely would help with timeouts, too11:20
soeeRiddell, <shadeslayer> soee: once you test, just poke someone and they'll copy to the beta backports PPA11:23
Riddellsoee: you tested?11:24
soee<soee> 4.9.97 for Quantal tested and works fine, no problems during update11:25
soeeits in staging11:25
Riddellfor asdf in `cat kdesc-packages-raring.txt`; do echo ${asdf}; ~/src/ubuntu-archive-tools/ubuntu-archive-tools/copy-package -p kubuntu-ppa --ppa-name=staging -s quantal -b --to-ppa=kubuntu-ppa --to-ppa-name=beta --to-suite=quantal ${asdf} -y; done11:30
Riddellshould keep it busy11:30
mikhasQuintasan, not in a proper release yet, but if you dare to try maliit-framework from git master, then here's your version suffix free Maliit: https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-framework/commit/fe71572564612f2282cff87a296441319bab22ef11:38
Quintasanmikhas: Mmkay, will take a look, I'd stick with tarballs unless we are short on time (which I doubt is the case)11:39
mikhasalright11:39
mikhasI should get to a new release by next week in any case.11:40
QuintasanThat sounds about...good.11:40
QuintasanCan't do anything about it until next monday though11:40
QuintasanGotta prepare for MORE tests11:41
Quintasansince it's the end of the semester at my uni11:41
QuintasanI think I could go by with no preparation but better be safe than sorry.11:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: Oh, not sure if mentioned but I failed my first test from introduction to progamming. We wrote Java code - on paper.11:42
QuintasanBut somehow I got 16-18 point out of 20 on labs11:42
Quintasangotta score up on the second test11:42
* Quintasan loves coding on paper11:43
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1096289] Qt apps often fail to start from file manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1096289 (by Alexei Kitaev)11:51
BluesKajHey all12:07
soeehi12:12
QuintasanBluesKaj: hi12:12
BluesKajhi Quintasan, soee12:14
* Riddell pokes at a bunch of packages in raring to retry them12:36
Tm_Tpackages on ninjas for KDE 4.8.8.97 (12.10) ready for testing?13:03
RiddellTm_T: 4.9.97 is now in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta for testing13:05
Riddellta da kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-410-rc-213:16
Riddellbetter url kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.9713:17
Riddellnow if only launchpad would let me load the package pages so I could retry bits13:20
Tm_Thmm13:40
Tm_TRiddell: I got packages downloaded from ninjas though13:41
Tm_Tlest's see...13:44
Tm_Tah, didn't have beta ppa enabled13:45
Tm_Tdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers_4%3a4.9.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/wallpapers/Finally_Summer_in_Germany/contents/screenshot.png', which is also in package kde-wallpapers 4:4.9.95-0ubuntu2~ubuntu12.10~ppa114:05
Tm_T...was sorted by upgrading kdewallpapers and kde-wallpapers (apt-get install -f)14:06
ronnoc_Morining all. Head's up that installing Virtualbox will attempt to remove Telepathy.14:15
ronnoc_In Raring that is.14:23
BluesKajronnoc_, no loss :)14:56
ScottKAs long as SO name is bumped, dropping symbols is fine.16:14
ScottKQuintasan: ^^^16:14
ScottKafiestas: Thanks.  I think we'll have to revert that commit for now then.16:17
ScottKyofel_: Can you do an update that reverts https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/285553edce61f65a88d9067136bf138e44efb149/diff - it causes the brightness flickering problem we've been seeing intermittently on 4.9.4.16:18
yofel_yes16:18
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
ScottK(need 4.9.4 updated for -prposed and 4.9.5 for PPA).16:18
ScottKyofel: Thanks.16:18
ScottKping me and I'll accept it.16:19
ScottK(once it's uploaded)16:19
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | oxygen-fonts in experimental PPA (from oneiric to raring)
yofelScottK: do we want to revert that in 4.9.97 too btw? (I would vote for yes)16:26
ScottKyofel: If people have reported the problem with 4.10, then yes.16:26
ScottKafiestas: ^^^ - if this commit is causing problems, it probably ought to be reverted upstream before the 4.10 release.16:27
yofelhaven't heard of it yet, but the only system that I got it with once is running 4.9.5. The code is in 4.10 too so I'm simply worrying about it possibly doing the same thing16:28
yofelafiestas: ok, I just took by eeePC and tried to change the brightness from within KDE for a change16:48
yofela) changing brightness with the Fn keys doesn't moved the slider in the batter applet16:48
yofelb) moving the slider in the battery applet causes it to jump around randomly changing brightness up and down until it eventually stops after a second or 216:49
yofelin bug 1088150 it seems to not stop for the user16:50
ubottubug 1088150 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDE 4.9.4 refreshes screen brightness rapidly " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108815016:50
yofelwhich I can't reproduce as it does stop here - the flashing happens for both of us16:50
ScottKFor me, it happens sometime changing power state.16:52
ScottKWhen it's happened, it  takes a suspend/resume to get it to stop.16:53
yofelthat's when it first happened for me to: powerdevil went into 'low battery' state -> I plugged the power cable in -> flashing starts. but it stopped after ~10s16:54
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1088150] KDE 4.9.4 refreshes screen brightness rapidly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088150 (by blubman)16:59
yofelScottK: uploaded17:30
ScottKyofel: Go ahead an do raring too ...17:31
ScottKThanks.17:31
yofelI'm gone for now, will do it later17:31
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1088150] KDE 4.9.4 refreshes screen brightness rapidly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088150 (by blubman)18:00
ScottKyofel: Accepted.  Thanks.19:06
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1088150] KDE 4.9.4 refreshes screen brightness rapidly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088150 (by blubman)20:07

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