| sakang | not sure why plasma* and workspace* are still at 4.9.95 instead of .97 in 13.04? plus a bunch of other stuff. nothing held back so not sure what's going on.. any ideas? | 01:32 |
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| yofel | sakang: until everything is built it's stuck in raring-proposed, you'll have to wait a bit | 01:33 |
| sakang | yofel: thanks..that explains it..the announcement in kde.org and kubuntu.org jumped the gun then. for a while I thought something broke in my system. | 01:36 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: *sigh* | 01:49 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: double *sigh* | 01:50 |
| Mamarok | should I send a mail to Leslie Anne? Sad to see here go | 01:50 |
| claydoh | I am thinking of it, I would like her to stay, she did unsubscribe. | 01:52 |
| Mamarok | I am writing a PM now | 01:53 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: :) | 01:57 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: OK, mail sent | 02:00 |
| Mamarok | now what with Basil? | 02:02 |
| Mamarok | I set him to moderation as well | 02:07 |
| claydoh | ok mod is fine, let them cool off | 02:13 |
| claydoh | on either "side" | 02:13 |
| Mamarok | indeed. I am going to bed now, tomorrow is another day :) | 02:32 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: thanks and have a nice day :) | 02:32 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: sleep well ;) | 02:35 |
| xnox | ScottK: do you care about keeping python-qt4 packaging to still work with non-multiarched python2/3, e.g. for backports?! | 02:53 |
| ScottK | xnox: It's not essential. | 02:53 |
| xnox | ScottK: ok. If need be, it will be trivial to keep 2 line diff, or make it more "dynamic" =) | 02:56 |
| xnox | left the build running, will commit when I wake up for sunday =) | 03:32 |
| soee | good morning | 08:50 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | \o | 10:58 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1088150] KDE 4.9.4 refreshes screen brightness rapidly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088150 (by blubman) | 11:43 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I have a mindblock when coding on paper | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | not sure what's happnening but backportpackage isn't working as well | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: any news on transmission stuff? | 13:54 |
| soee | shadeslayer, what backportpackage ? | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | it's a tool to backport packages | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | Trying to backport ktp 0.5.2 to precise | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | but it's timing out | 13:58 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: ah, I should've done that last night...I'll do it later today | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: thx :) | 17:57 |
| soee | where kde settings are stored (windows configurations etc)? | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | soee: ~/.kde | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | and some stuff is in ~/.local and ~/.config as well | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | for eg. if you use qtcurve, the current qtcruve is stored in ~/.config | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | but most of it is in ~/.kde/share/config | 18:00 |
| soee | i would like to send current settings to ubuntu one for example so i can use them on my machine @ work, home, laptop etv | 18:00 |
| soee | ok so i think ~/.kde | 18:00 |
| dilfridge | hi | 18:00 |
| soee | is what i want | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | sure, but make sure you don't share cache links and what not | 18:00 |
| soee | hi dilfridge | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | there is alot of stuff in ~/.kde | 18:00 |
| dilfridge | is there any admin of kubuntuforums.net here? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | SteveRiley: ^ | 18:01 |
| soee | ok, thank you shadeslayer | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | np :) | 18:01 |
| dilfridge | thanks | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | dilfridge: I haven't seen SteveRiley active alot, so you might just want to say what the issue is and maybe someone else notices | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | iirc Darkwing_ was also an admin there, not sure | 18:02 |
| soee | dilfridge, do you hve 403 on that page ? | 18:03 |
| dilfridge | yes | 18:03 |
| dilfridge | SteveRiley: I'm getting 403 on kubuntuforums.net (eg issue 38317, Problematic Russian Netblock (IP-042)). Not Russia here, definitely Ping me if you need any info, e-mail dilfridge@gentoo.or works too... TIA! | 18:06 |
| claydoh | dilfridge: iiit may be our security stuff being too aggressive, we used to be flooded with pr0n daily I will look and ask | 18:42 |
| claydoh | I am an admin there | 18:42 |
| claydoh | dilfridge: I am guessing we might need an ip address, you can poke me or snowhog on #kfn | 18:48 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: How do you think we handle bsns card printing? | 19:16 |
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| Riddell | Quintasan: what is nsns card printing? | 20:21 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what is bsns card printing? | 20:21 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Do we have some budget for business cards or we just got designs and whoever wants those has to print them themselves? | 20:34 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: we have plenty money in the bank, so I don't think money is an issue | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: You think we could just gather info from people who are interested and then one of us orders X*Y (X - number of peopl Y - number of business cards) cards and then distributes them? | 20:39 |
| Quintasan | Or it's going to be "have them printed, show receipt and we will reimburse you" ? | 20:39 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: possibly I could pay with my card and reimburse myself | 20:41 |
| Riddell | instaprint looked like a promising candidate for printing | 20:41 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: And then you would distribute them among interested people? Sounds good. | 20:42 |
| Quintasan | About prining service, I have no idea. I never did any printing aside from printing stuff for school so I'll pass on making suggestions about which service to use | 20:42 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://www.instaprint.co.uk/? | 20:43 |
| Riddell | yeah | 20:44 |
| Quintasan | standard business card sizes, paper grammature | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | well | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | nothing too complicated there I think | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | but I don't think we need anything complicated | 20:45 |
| Riddell | nope | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: How do you propose getting information which is to be put on the card? I think one could post a mail to our ML to contact you with information. | 20:47 |
| Riddell | yeah, any kubuntu members please send name, address, etc etc | 20:48 |
| ScottK | afiestas: reverting that commit seems to have resolved the brightness flickering issues we were seeing in 4.9. I think reverting it in 4.10 before release makes sense too. I can write the KDE release list if you'd prefer a discussion there? | 21:07 |
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| Quintasan | yofel_: you alive? | 21:42 |
| yofel_ | more or less | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | yofel_: mind helping with pointer logic? | 21:42 |
| yofel_ | well, throw it against me and worst case I'll attempt to summon harald | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | it's homework, not mine but I'm curious | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | http://wklej.org/id/917007/ | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | this | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | when I do nPtr++ it should jump to the NEXT element of the array, right? | 21:43 |
| yofel_ | it should if I remember it right | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | float size is 4 here | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | if I do nPtr+8 | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | it jumps 4 elements | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | at first I thought it would jump 8 elements but I dismissed it as dumb | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | then I thought it would jump 2 elemnts since float size is 4 and we are adding 8 | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | but it jumped 4 elements | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | what the | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | wait | 21:47 |
| Quintasan | what | 21:47 |
| yofel_ | http://paste.kde.org/639092 prints 1.10000 as expected | 21:47 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | the tasks asks you exactly | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | copypasta in polish | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | Zakładając, że nPtr wskazuje początek tablicy liczby, jaki adres jest określany przez | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | nPtr+8? Jaka znajduje się tam wartość? | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | Assuming | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | nPtr is pointing the the beggining of the array | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | to what address is nPtr+8 pointing to, what value is stored there | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | He doesn't do *(nPtr+8) there | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | I imagine those to be wildly different since what I was to cout << nPtr+8 and it gave the address of the 4 element of the array | 21:50 |
| yofel_ | as nPtr is a pointer to float, it should be the same as 8*sizeof(float) if it were void* | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | lol | 21:51 |
| Quintasan | so we are actually adding 24? | 21:51 |
| yofel_ | internally yes | 21:51 |
| Quintasan | if float is 4 bytes | 21:51 |
| Quintasan | sooo | 21:53 |
| Quintasan | if I put it indexes it would be a jump from liczby[0] to liczby[4] | 21:54 |
| Quintasan | right? | 21:54 |
| yofel_ | give me a bit to make sense of what gcc is throwing at me here | 21:56 |
| yofel_ | wait | 21:56 |
| yofel_ | nvm | 21:56 |
| yofel_ | 8 * 4 = 32 | 21:56 |
| Quintasan | wat | 21:56 |
| Quintasan | really | 21:56 |
| yofel_ | so 863806976 + 8 = 863807008 | 21:57 |
| * Quintasan needs to learn multiplying | 21:57 | |
| yofel_ | in float pointer arithmetic | 21:57 |
| Quintasan | sooooo | 21:58 |
| Quintasan | TBH I though adding 8 would make it point to the curr_adress+2 | 21:59 |
| Quintasan | since float is 4 bytes | 21:59 |
| Quintasan | now it turns out it's actually adding 32 to the adress and that is probably after the array boundary | 22:00 |
| yofel_ | no | 22:00 |
| yofel_ | addr + 4 in plain bytes would be libczby[1] | 22:00 |
| yofel_ | addr + 32 is liczby[8] | 22:01 |
| yofel_ | note that you're defining nPtr as *float | 22:01 |
| yofel_ | if you want it to count in 1 byte steps use *void | 22:01 |
| yofel_ | as it takes the data size into account | 22:01 |
| yofel_ | that's why I said it does + sizeof(type) internally | 22:02 |
| Quintasan | so nPtr+8 is actually *(nPtr+32) ? | 22:02 |
| yofel_ | + val*sizeof(type) | 22:02 |
| yofel_ | nPtr + 8 as flot would be nPtr + 32 as void | 22:02 |
| Quintasan | so assuming nPtr i pointing at liczby[0] | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | nPtr+8 will make it point to liczby[8]? | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | this is...logical? | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | I have no idea why they make a big deal out of this | 22:06 |
| yofel_ | uh... it's only logical if you know hat C takes he pointer type into account for pointer arithmetics | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | it would be illogical if it didnt imo | 22:09 |
| Quintasan | more hax | 22:09 |
| Quintasan | int ∗ s t ; | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | ∗ st = 100; | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | is this correct? | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | st is a pointer | 22:10 |
| yofel_ | yeah | 22:10 |
| * Quintasan always confuses the damn symbols | 22:10 | |
| Quintasan | int *st; is easy it creates a pointer | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | what the hell does *st = 100 do? | 22:10 |
| yofel_ | put 100 into the memory that st points to | 22:11 |
| Quintasan | but st doesnt point at anything | 22:11 |
| Quintasan | so this is not correct code at all | 22:11 |
| yofel_ | well, that's YOUR fault | 22:12 |
| Quintasan | :D | 22:12 |
| * Quintasan didn't write this | 22:12 | |
| yofel_ | c.c:10:15: warning: ‘st’ is used uninitialized in this function [-Wuninitialized] | 22:12 |
| yofel_ | enjoy debugging later | 22:13 |
| Quintasan | clang++ is retarded | 22:13 |
| Quintasan | no error here | 22:13 |
| Quintasan | or even warning | 22:13 |
| yofel_ | -Wall: | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | c.c:11:12: warning: variable 'st' is uninitialized when used here [-Wuninitialized] | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | *st = 100; | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | ^~ | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | c.c:9:18: note: initialize the variable 'st' to silence this warning | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | int* st; | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | ^ | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | why doesn't c++ compiler throw an warning ._. | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | = NULL | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | oh | 22:14 |
| yofel_ | you do know that -Wuninitialized is not on by default? | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | NO | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | and I have no idea why | 22:15 |
| yofel_ | :D | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | would you do this | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | isn't it a good idea to turn this on by default? | 22:15 |
| yofel_ | well, I have aliases that do that | 22:15 |
| yofel_ | as I do want to have it on by default | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | I mean generally you don't want pointers doing MAGIC on some random memory address | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | not even random as I think pointer after initialization points to NULL | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | at least in c++ | 22:16 |
| yofel_ | FUN | 22:17 |
| yofel_ | clang c.c | 22:17 |
| yofel_ | run it: works fine | 22:17 |
| yofel_ | gcc c.c | 22:17 |
| yofel_ | run it: SIGSEGV | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | Lol | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | also | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | OLOLOLOASDOASDKASFKA | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | look at this | 22:17 |
| yofel_ | clang does an implicit malloc I guess | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | a = ∗&∗&∗&∗&a ; | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | they ask you if it will compile and execture | 22:18 |
| yofel_ | lol | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | :D | 22:18 |
| yofel_ | considering *& compiles, it should | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | random guess - it will | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | if I try to print a it will print 5 | 22:18 |
| xnox | ScottK: how are we going to provide python3 QtDesigner plugin? | 23:23 |
| xnox | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7986492/make-qt4-designer-under-linux-to-use-python3-for-handling-custom-widgets-plugins | 23:23 |
| xnox | I am making it build.... but should be named differently or something? | 23:24 |
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