[01:32] not sure why plasma* and workspace* are still at 4.9.95 instead of .97 in 13.04? plus a bunch of other stuff. nothing held back so not sure what's going on.. any ideas? [01:33] sakang: until everything is built it's stuck in raring-proposed, you'll have to wait a bit [01:36] yofel: thanks..that explains it..the announcement in kde.org and kubuntu.org jumped the gun then. for a while I thought something broke in my system. [01:49] claydoh: *sigh* [01:50] Mamarok: double *sigh* [01:50] should I send a mail to Leslie Anne? Sad to see here go [01:52] I am thinking of it, I would like her to stay, she did unsubscribe. [01:53] I am writing a PM now [01:57] Mamarok: :) [02:00] claydoh: OK, mail sent [02:02] now what with Basil? [02:07] I set him to moderation as well [02:13] ok mod is fine, let them cool off [02:13] on either "side" [02:32] indeed. I am going to bed now, tomorrow is another day :) [02:32] claydoh: thanks and have a nice day :) [02:35] Mamarok: sleep well ;) [02:53] ScottK: do you care about keeping python-qt4 packaging to still work with non-multiarched python2/3, e.g. for backports?! [02:53] xnox: It's not essential. [02:56] ScottK: ok. If need be, it will be trivial to keep 2 line diff, or make it more "dynamic" =) [03:32] left the build running, will commit when I wake up for sunday =) [08:50] good morning === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [10:58] \o [11:43] ::workspace-bugs:: [1088150] KDE 4.9.4 refreshes screen brightness rapidly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088150 (by blubman) [13:38] Quintasan: I have a mindblock when coding on paper [13:53] not sure what's happnening but backportpackage isn't working as well [13:54] micahg: any news on transmission stuff? [13:58] shadeslayer, what backportpackage ? [13:58] it's a tool to backport packages [13:58] Trying to backport ktp 0.5.2 to precise [13:58] but it's timing out [17:57] shadeslayer: ah, I should've done that last night...I'll do it later today [17:57] micahg: thx :) [17:58] where kde settings are stored (windows configurations etc)? [17:58] soee: ~/.kde [17:59] and some stuff is in ~/.local and ~/.config as well [17:59] for eg. if you use qtcurve, the current qtcruve is stored in ~/.config [18:00] but most of it is in ~/.kde/share/config [18:00] i would like to send current settings to ubuntu one for example so i can use them on my machine @ work, home, laptop etv [18:00] ok so i think ~/.kde [18:00] hi [18:00] is what i want [18:00] sure, but make sure you don't share cache links and what not [18:00] hi dilfridge [18:00] there is alot of stuff in ~/.kde [18:00] is there any admin of kubuntuforums.net here? [18:01] SteveRiley: ^ [18:01] ok, thank you shadeslayer [18:01] np :) [18:01] thanks [18:02] dilfridge: I haven't seen SteveRiley active alot, so you might just want to say what the issue is and maybe someone else notices [18:02] iirc Darkwing_ was also an admin there, not sure [18:03] dilfridge, do you hve 403 on that page ? [18:03] yes [18:06] SteveRiley: I'm getting 403 on kubuntuforums.net (eg issue 38317, Problematic Russian Netblock (IP-042)). Not Russia here, definitely Ping me if you need any info, e-mail dilfridge@gentoo.or works too... TIA! [18:42] dilfridge: iiit may be our security stuff being too aggressive, we used to be flooded with pr0n daily I will look and ask [18:42] I am an admin there [18:48] dilfridge: I am guessing we might need an ip address, you can poke me or snowhog on #kfn [19:16] Riddell: How do you think we handle bsns card printing? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [20:21] Quintasan: what is nsns card printing? [20:21] Quintasan: what is bsns card printing? [20:34] Riddell: Do we have some budget for business cards or we just got designs and whoever wants those has to print them themselves? [20:37] Quintasan: we have plenty money in the bank, so I don't think money is an issue [20:39] Riddell: You think we could just gather info from people who are interested and then one of us orders X*Y (X - number of peopl Y - number of business cards) cards and then distributes them? [20:39] Or it's going to be "have them printed, show receipt and we will reimburse you" ? [20:41] Quintasan: possibly I could pay with my card and reimburse myself [20:41] instaprint looked like a promising candidate for printing [20:42] Riddell: And then you would distribute them among interested people? Sounds good. [20:42] About prining service, I have no idea. I never did any printing aside from printing stuff for school so I'll pass on making suggestions about which service to use [20:43] Riddell: http://www.instaprint.co.uk/? [20:44] yeah [20:45] standard business card sizes, paper grammature [20:45] well [20:45] nothing too complicated there I think [20:45] but I don't think we need anything complicated [20:45] nope [20:47] Riddell: How do you propose getting information which is to be put on the card? I think one could post a mail to our ML to contact you with information. [20:48] yeah, any kubuntu members please send name, address, etc etc [21:07] afiestas: reverting that commit seems to have resolved the brightness flickering issues we were seeing in 4.9. I think reverting it in 4.10 before release makes sense too. I can write the KDE release list if you'd prefer a discussion there? === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [21:42] yofel_: you alive? [21:42] more or less [21:42] yofel_: mind helping with pointer logic? [21:43] well, throw it against me and worst case I'll attempt to summon harald [21:43] it's homework, not mine but I'm curious [21:43] http://wklej.org/id/917007/ [21:43] this [21:43] when I do nPtr++ it should jump to the NEXT element of the array, right? [21:44] it should if I remember it right [21:44] float size is 4 here [21:45] if I do nPtr+8 [21:45] it jumps 4 elements [21:45] at first I thought it would jump 8 elements but I dismissed it as dumb [21:46] then I thought it would jump 2 elemnts since float size is 4 and we are adding 8 [21:46] but it jumped 4 elements [21:46] what the [21:47] wait [21:47] what [21:47] http://paste.kde.org/639092 prints 1.10000 as expected [21:48] hmm [21:48] the tasks asks you exactly [21:49] copypasta in polish [21:49] Zakładając, że nPtr wskazuje początek tablicy liczby, jaki adres jest określany przez [21:49] nPtr+8? Jaka znajduje się tam wartość? [21:49] Assuming [21:49] nPtr is pointing the the beggining of the array [21:49] to what address is nPtr+8 pointing to, what value is stored there [21:49] He doesn't do *(nPtr+8) there [21:50] I imagine those to be wildly different since what I was to cout << nPtr+8 and it gave the address of the 4 element of the array [21:50] as nPtr is a pointer to float, it should be the same as 8*sizeof(float) if it were void* [21:51] lol [21:51] so we are actually adding 24? [21:51] internally yes [21:51] if float is 4 bytes [21:53] sooo [21:54] if I put it indexes it would be a jump from liczby[0] to liczby[4] [21:54] right? [21:56] give me a bit to make sense of what gcc is throwing at me here [21:56] wait [21:56] nvm [21:56] 8 * 4 = 32 [21:56] wat [21:56] really [21:57] so 863806976 + 8 = 863807008 [21:57] * Quintasan needs to learn multiplying [21:57] in float pointer arithmetic [21:58] sooooo [21:59] TBH I though adding 8 would make it point to the curr_adress+2 [21:59] since float is 4 bytes [22:00] now it turns out it's actually adding 32 to the adress and that is probably after the array boundary [22:00] no [22:00] addr + 4 in plain bytes would be libczby[1] [22:01] addr + 32 is liczby[8] [22:01] note that you're defining nPtr as *float [22:01] if you want it to count in 1 byte steps use *void [22:01] as it takes the data size into account [22:02] that's why I said it does + sizeof(type) internally [22:02] so nPtr+8 is actually *(nPtr+32) ? [22:02] + val*sizeof(type) [22:02] nPtr + 8 as flot would be nPtr + 32 as void [22:06] so assuming nPtr i pointing at liczby[0] [22:06] nPtr+8 will make it point to liczby[8]? [22:06] this is...logical? [22:06] I have no idea why they make a big deal out of this [22:07] uh... it's only logical if you know hat C takes he pointer type into account for pointer arithmetics [22:09] it would be illogical if it didnt imo [22:09] more hax [22:10] int ∗ s t ; [22:10] ∗ st = 100; [22:10] is this correct? [22:10] st is a pointer [22:10] yeah [22:10] * Quintasan always confuses the damn symbols [22:10] int *st; is easy it creates a pointer [22:10] what the hell does *st = 100 do? [22:11] put 100 into the memory that st points to [22:11] but st doesnt point at anything [22:11] so this is not correct code at all [22:12] well, that's YOUR fault [22:12] :D [22:12] * Quintasan didn't write this [22:12] c.c:10:15: warning: ‘st’ is used uninitialized in this function [-Wuninitialized] [22:13] enjoy debugging later [22:13] clang++ is retarded [22:13] no error here [22:13] or even warning [22:14] -Wall: [22:14] c.c:11:12: warning: variable 'st' is uninitialized when used here [-Wuninitialized] [22:14] *st = 100; [22:14] ^~ [22:14] c.c:9:18: note: initialize the variable 'st' to silence this warning [22:14] int* st; [22:14] ^ [22:14] why doesn't c++ compiler throw an warning ._. [22:14] = NULL [22:14] oh [22:14] you do know that -Wuninitialized is not on by default? [22:15] NO [22:15] and I have no idea why [22:15] :D [22:15] would you do this [22:15] isn't it a good idea to turn this on by default? [22:15] well, I have aliases that do that [22:15] as I do want to have it on by default [22:15] I mean generally you don't want pointers doing MAGIC on some random memory address [22:16] not even random as I think pointer after initialization points to NULL [22:16] at least in c++ [22:17] FUN [22:17] clang c.c [22:17] run it: works fine [22:17] gcc c.c [22:17] run it: SIGSEGV [22:17] Lol [22:17] also [22:17] OLOLOLOASDOASDKASFKA [22:17] look at this [22:17] clang does an implicit malloc I guess [22:17] a = ∗&∗&∗&∗&a ; [22:18] they ask you if it will compile and execture [22:18] lol [22:18] :D [22:18] considering *& compiles, it should [22:18] random guess - it will [22:18] if I try to print a it will print 5 [23:23] ScottK: how are we going to provide python3 QtDesigner plugin? [23:23] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7986492/make-qt4-designer-under-linux-to-use-python3-for-handling-custom-widgets-plugins [23:24] I am making it build.... but should be named differently or something?