=== tony_smlr is now known as tony-smlr [12:03] SMLR is live http://www.youtube.com/user/tbemus?v=us-4M4392uE [14:23] Anyone have any recommendations for a solid, stable pci e graphics card for Ubuntu 12.10 x64? [18:04] Good morning [18:04] party [18:04] Er, more like Good Afternoon. ;) [18:57] so if rolling your own stuff, would you use pulseaudio? [18:59] I think Pulse Audio is a good thing (tm_ [19:00] Put another way: it isn't going away any time soon [19:00] and the more compatible with pulse audio you are, the happier the users will be [19:00] OSS / ALSA are emulated under pulse anyway. [19:01] What are you planning on doing [19:01] ? [19:10] if i'm using a heavily gnome-based system i'll use pulse, but for simpler environments i still use alsa [19:17] http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/?newsid=3418779 rick_h_ [19:21] no i have freebsd installed on this box and i realized i can't control volume of one app independantly of another easily [19:22] or maybe i just don't know how to d oit [19:32] snap-l: that's hilarious [19:36] derekv: any reason you're using freebsd over Linux? [19:37] (not trying to be cheeky or anything; if the reason is "I just want to", that's perfectly valid. ;) ) [19:49] rick_h_: have you tried this before? https://github.com/wertarbyte/autorandr [19:58] snap-l, I have a soft spot for the OS, wanted to try living with it again for a while [19:58] i'm nomadic [19:58] seeing if it can still work as a desktop os [19:59] fortunatly flash is becoming less of an issue [19:59] and video card support seems to be good still, at least for nvidia [19:59] so if anything its better than in the past [20:00] i think its lost some of its advantage as far as being really reponsive compaired to linux (one of the reasons i made the switch the first time, like 1999ish) [20:00] thats probably all about the scheduler [20:00] they got rid of the original scheduler a few versions back, after some fits and starts, because it was inefficient after about two cores [20:01] whereas the new one can handle numba , asymetric etc [20:01] but its more complex and somewhere it lost the magic ability to have a >10 load average and not be noticable to the UI [20:02] so yea, i don't really have any _strong_ technical arguments [20:02] i have a handful of very weak ones [20:03] its a fairly well organized OS ... the tower vs bazar thing i guess.. it feels very clean. the way the OS is layed out, kindof like a purer unix "vision" [20:04] apart from the difficulty with running flash, its very compairable with say gentoo [20:05] a little bit less finiky... a few more things come with the OS by default [20:05] but still some finikyness depending on what your running it for [20:06] I think running a desktop OS has the most complicated dependancy scenario possible [20:06] and yea, it doesn't come with pulseaudio configured for you, etc [20:07] i wish i could have time to properly configure everything the way I want it, stay up with updates, and then do most of my work on it [20:08] my current job makes the latter impossible and the former difficult unless i give up more important things [20:12] if I was building some servers (hardware), I wouldn't hesitate to use freebsd ... if it was aws or something i'd probably go with ubuntu, freebsd support isn't very mature there... [20:13] hmm, come to think of it I'm to ignorant to say what the practical differences between ubuntu and debian servers would be [20:14] ive done a couple quick ubuntu servers for random things and they work well [20:53] Yeah, I like Ubuntu servers. They're quick to set up, and pretty extensible. [21:22] i have a serious problem with being interested in too many things [21:23] and then not picking one place to center myself [21:23] become an expert [21:25] rick_h_: Were you the one who had the ball chair? [21:41] i think the ball chair is ok for the purposes of changing it up [21:41] you'll want to sit on it for like 15 minutes then you'll be done for a while [21:41] helpful but no silver bullet [21:51] i still wan the sit-stand desk [22:18] snap-l: I've got a ball I've used as a chair some [22:18] widox: no, not used that [22:49] rick_h_: Would you be opposed to me borrowing it for a bit? [22:49] Trying to feel out if using a ball chair is a good idea or not [23:48] * brousch snickers [23:51] ...