[00:00] <elena-IK> is there a screensaver that simply displays the current time? without 3d wiggling etc
[00:00] <sw> mesquka1: 12.10
[00:01] <HeLLy> k1l: I found the right info, is there anyway I could email it to ubuntu so Bolivia can be added to the list of mobile broadbands?
[00:01] <stercor> Do I want to use LVM?  It's the default...
[00:01] <mesquka1> sw: if you want to use 12.10, try this: http://www.traffictool.net/vmware/ubuntu1210t.zip
[00:02] <mesquka1> sw: but, 12.10 runs a bit slow in VMware
[00:02] <BlackWeb> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 Server, & grub isnt automatically booting the selection, Which would be that big of a deal but I only have power, & Network cord attached to server, I've already tweaked with /etc/default/grub so that grub would have a hidden time out, But it seems that 50% of the time it still does that, Any Solutions? Or is 12.04 Not as Good?
[00:02] <sw> mesquka1: 12.04 is Gnome?
[00:03] <k1l> HeLLy: i dont know which program you use and where the data is stored.
[00:03] <trendynick> I alt-tabbed a lot in my listed open apps and sometimes they appear (still nothing in sidebar and not listed in alt-tab)
[00:03] <mesquka1> sw: 12.04 is unity
[00:03] <sw> mesquka1: So what would make 12.10 slower than 12.04?
[00:03] <mesquka1> sw: or what you could do is use 12.10 and install gnome
[00:04] <HeLLy> k1l: I am just using the stock network tools and I am on a 4G connection to :-)
[00:04] <mesquka1> sw: 12.04 has gnome
[00:04] <mesquka1> sw: whereas 12.10 locks you in unity
[00:04] <bekks> 12.04 has Unity, too.
[00:04] <sw> bekks: 00:03 < mesquka1> sw: 12.04 is unity
[00:04] <dfgas> how does it lock you into unity?
[00:05] <sw> mesquka1: It's not possible to bin unity in 12.10? Wow. I'll try 12.04 and see if that works ok on VMware then.
[00:05] <mesquka1> sw: you could manually install gnome, but it doesn't come pre-installed
[00:05] <dfgas> so you are not locked into unity then
[00:06] <sw> dfgas: I think that mesquka1 meant is that 12.04 has both as a choice, 12.10 doesn't, natively.
[00:06] <dfgas> ahh, ok
[00:06] <RU-XerYuS> Can anyone help me return to a previous kernel (one before 3.5.0-21-generic)?
[00:06] <sw> s/that/what
[00:06] <mesquka1> 12.04 has gnome preinstalled
[00:06] <dfgas> i know i am on 12.04 and i installed ghone shell
[00:06] <mesquka1> yes, sw's right
[00:07] <dfgas> i swapped out my bios on my cr-48 and put ubuntu natively on it without any chrome os
[00:07] <dfgas> :D
[00:07] <mesquka1> sw: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings in terminal
[00:07] <mesquka1> that should do it
[00:07] <BlackWeb> Anyone know how to FORCE grub to load the Selection within the boot loader?
[00:08] <BlackWeb> Ubuntu 12.04 Server, Half of the time It just Hangs out on the Boot Menu & never Loads its
[00:08] <stercor> What's a GPT partition table and do I want it?  Do I even want LVM?
[00:08] <linxeh> stercor: maybe.
[00:09] <Tzunamii> BlackWeb: Tried to force the selection via the config-file and rewrite grub?
[00:09] <dr_willis> leave lvm alone then. ;-)
[00:09] <linxeh> stercor: GPT will become more common (if you have a Mac you want it). LVM, up to you. it makes it trivial to extend volumes later over multiple disks if you need to
[00:09] <stercor> linxeh: What are the considerations?
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[00:09] <KsM> BlackWeb: I think you can change /etc/default/grub, it should be the first 2 lines. then run `sudo update-grub`
[00:10] <BlackWeb> I've tweaked with /etc/default/grub  - So that there was a timeout and I ran grub update and that still didnt seem to fix problem
[00:10] <linxeh> stercor: if you are new to this all, and dont know any better (and arent on a Mac) dont use GPT and dont use LVM.
[00:10] <linxeh> stercor: you will likely reinstall anyway before it becomes an issue for you (and there are other ways round most issues anyway)
[00:10] <stercor> Jordan_U: Good show!
[00:10] <sw> What's the most commonly used project/task management application for Linux?
[00:10] <BlackWeb> Its like it'll load 50% of the time but the rest its like good luck
[00:11] <KsM> BlackWeb: also, you could check out kexec, which allows you to switch kernels/reboot without having to even see grub. it just loads the kernel into the memory and continues from there
[00:11] <rypervenche> sw: The kernel?
[00:11] <stercor> linxeh: I'm re-installing now.
[00:11] <sw> rypervenche: What?
[00:11] <BlackWeb> kexec  so thats a package I need to install?
[00:11] <rypervenche> Oh, I misread your question. Sorry.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> BlackWeb: The problem is that /etc/init.d/grub-common isn't being run at boot for some reason, and so the recordfail flag isn't being cleared (which would normally indicate a failed boot).
[00:12] <mesquka1> sw: http://www.dotproject.net/ prbably
[00:12] <linxeh> stercor: :)
[00:12] <sw> mesquka1: 'Installation Failed: [Errno 5] Input/output error'.
[00:12] <mesquka1> sw: VMware?
[00:12] <sw> Jeez, a couple of years back you'd have Ubuntu downloaded and running in a VM within 5 minutes.
[00:12] <sw> mesquka1: Yes.
[00:12] <molqr> a box gets its ip via DHCP ... could i write a script that would scp a file containing the ip to a remote box on startup?
[00:12] <stercor> linxeh: Take the defaults?
[00:12] <BlackWeb> Jordan_U   is there a fix I can do?
[00:13] <mesquka1> sw: haha, I use virtualbox, so I can't realy help you any further, sorry
[00:13] <mesquka1> "Jeez, a couple of years back you'd have Ubuntu downloaded and running in a VM within 5 minutes." agreed
[00:13] <Jordan_U> BlackWeb: I would recommend adding "timeout=5" (without the quotes) to /etc/grub.d/40_custom (on a new line at the end). Then run "sudo update-grub". That will override the timeout from /etc/default/grub, and Ubuntu's code that disables timeout after a failed boot, and make grub have exactly a 5 second timeout no matter what.
[00:13] <linxeh> stercor: defaults are often a good choice (I go with defaults on Ubuntu installs generally) - you can always re-do it later. most of my machines are VMs with all the data on a NAS though, so its a bit easier for me
[00:14] <stercor> linxeh: It'll wipe the disk anyway, so what's the best option?
[00:14] <stercor> linxeh: That's my estimate. They know a whole lot more than I do...
[00:15] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll try that, cause Ya right now I have the timeout in /etc/default/grub  set to 1 second but I'll give your way a try and see if I still run into the same problem
[00:15] <BlackWeb> Thanks for the Help :)
[00:15] <linxeh> stercor: re GPT, it makes little difference. LVM is up to you - it is a bit harder to get your head around, but its a staple of bigger linux installations (ie most big systems use it)
[00:15] <mesquka1> sw: well, im going afk for awhile
[00:15] <linxeh> stercor: I use LVM, but dont use GPT at this stage
[00:16] <sw> mesquka1: Thanks a lot, appreciated.
[00:16] <mesquka1> well, maybe not, ill stay awhile
[00:16] <mesquka1> sw:no problem
[00:20] <mesquka> hi
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[00:21] <Guest86699> hi
[00:23] <Guest86699> can someone tell me my loader syslinux not show me os list?
[00:23] <dr_willis> how did you configure syslinux?
[00:25] <Guest86699> dr_willis: with grub
[00:25] <y0gity> hi
[00:25] <codephobic> hi
[00:25] <y0gity> whats up linux users
[00:25] <dr_willis> that  makesa very little sence to me Guest86699
[00:26] <codephobic> I'm having some trouble getting java to work in chrome and firefox. I downloaded the jre7.0.10 from oracle and followed their instructions but it has had no effect.
[00:26] <codephobic> can anyone help/advise?
[00:27] <codephobic> I'm running 12.10 btw.
[00:27] <MeanEYE> y0gity: Jack Daniels. :D
[00:27] <Guest86699> dr_willis: my pen load grub and syslinux,but not show me 3 os that need this for work
[00:28] <jelllow> rsync keeps dropping from 32 mb/s to 120 kbs not quite sure why its all local
[00:29] <BluesKaj> cod describe your trouble in more detail
[00:29] <MeanEYE> jelllow: drive problems?
[00:29] <BluesKaj> codephobic,^
[00:29] <jelllow> I'm not sure any idea how can check ?
[00:29] <MeanEYE> codephobic: you need plugin as well, not just JRE.
[00:30] <codephobic> ah, well I installed the jre from oracle but saw no mention of a plugin
[00:30] <MeanEYE> jelllow: Start gnome-disks and do a self-check.
[00:30] <codephobic> MeanEYE, what's the plugin I need?
[00:30] <MeanEYE> codephobic: first tell me how did you install.
[00:31] <codephobic> I've also got the JDK installed, as I'm using eclipse to learn java, so I have a working java setup on my machine, just not for the browsers.
[00:31] <codephobic> I unpacked the tar and placed it in /usr/lib/jre...
[00:32] <MeanEYE> codephobic: Ah, that seems to be the problem.
[00:32] <codephobic> oh?
[00:32] <codephobic> that's what they instruct.
[00:32] <codephobic> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml
[00:32] <MeanEYE> codephobic: For JRE yes. But plugins are located in firefox directory. My advice, use this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[00:33] <codephobic> well, I'll give that a go.
[00:33] <MeanEYE> codephobic: that works 100%
[00:33] <codephobic> the only reason I went to download the jre was because the java tutorial webpage sent me there.
[00:33] <MeanEYE> codephobic: Yeah, well Oracle is not really good at writing documentation.
[00:33] <MeanEYE> codephobic: This PPA has 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8.
[00:33] <codephobic> MeanEYE, thanks, hopefully this works.
[00:34] <MeanEYE> codephobic: Okay, you are welcome.
[00:35] <iBurley> I have a rather odd question, and it may actually be a TeamSpeak issue, not a Linux issue
[00:36] <MeanEYE> iBurley: please ask, don't ask about asking.
[00:36] <jelllow> Games keep grabbing my keyboard and when they crash I have no way to recover other than reboot , Is there anyway I can stop games stealing keyboard input from X11 ?
[00:36] <iBurley> Alright, so my side mouse buttons work for going forward and back in my browser, but I can't set them as push to talk in TS3 on Ubuntu, but they work just fine on my Win7 partition
[00:37] <MeanEYE> iBurley: You probably need to bind them in your games. Generally speaking there's nothing preventing them from working. So if it doesn't work, then yes, issue is with TeamSpeak.
[00:38] <iBurley> alright
[00:38] <MeanEYE> jelllow: Hm, depends on a game and input library in question. Linux kernel has SysReq, so that might help you avoid restarting.
[00:38] <dalsgaard> Does anyone have experience with using Adobe Photoshop in Ubuntu?
[00:38] <codephobic> MeanEYE, thanks again! that was quick and painless!!
[00:38] <MeanEYE> iBurley: You might want to ask on askubuntu.com or forums if you don't find solution. But in my opinion it's best to contact developers. Often things like this sound harmless but are bugs.
[00:39] <MeanEYE> codephobic: You are welcome. Glad it works. :)
[00:39] <codephobic> :)
[00:39] <MeanEYE> dalsgaard: Through Wine?
[00:39] <dalsgaard> Aye. I've heard that it's really hard to do
[00:40] <dalsgaard> Not looking to do it right now, but I'd just like the lay of the land. :)
[00:40] <jelllow> MeanEYE: Is SysReq ctrl-alt + f1 keys that drop you in tty ?
[00:40] <MeanEYE> dalsgaard: Depending on version. You can see appdb.winehq.org for referrence. There are a lot of people testing that. Personally I don't use it but I was able to make CS2 work without a problem.
[00:40] <dalsgaard> I see, thanks.
[00:40] <MeanEYE> jelllow: No. Those are just terminals. Check u
[00:41] <MeanEYE> jelllow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[00:42] <MeanEYE> jelllow: basically it enables you to issue commands directly to linux kernel.
[00:44] <jelllow> MeanEYE: I've used them once before I think there is one that causes a kernel panic :P
[00:44] <MeanEYE> Well, doubt it causes panic. But it can do a lot fo things from force OOM killer to restart of graphical environment.
[00:45] <MeanEYE> jelllow: Am not sure what the problem is.
[00:45] <MeanEYE> Can you give more information.
[00:46] <sevenforall> Apparently GIMP is hanging. Is there any way to get it back up without having to restart it?
[00:46] <Brinson> Networking question for anyone out there who might can help me...my mom has satelite internet and the networking cable has been severed. Going to go out and try to fix it tomorrow. I've got a crimper but am going to need to pick up RJ45 connectors. No idea if the cable is cat5, cat5e, or cat6, will I need to buy specific RJ45 connectors or are they cross-compatible?
[00:46] <MeanEYE> sevenforall: It shouldn't do that. If it's working something, leave it alone and it should get back. If it doesn't you might want to report a bug to gimp developer team.
[00:47] <joeb3_> Brinson, It's a standard ethernet cable. nothing special.
[00:47] <MeanEYE> Brinson: difference in cables is only in quality. CAT6 connectors have usually some metal (not only plastic). CAT6 cable has thicker wires.
[00:48] <MeanEYE> Brinson: So if you have cat6 cable, you'll probably need a bit different connector. But if you manage to squeze wires in, everything will work just normally.
[00:49] <Brinson> If I buy the cat6 ones there should be enough room for cat5 and cat5e in case its those, then?
[00:49] <MeanEYE> Brinson: yes.
[00:49] <MeanEYE> But connectors are cheap. And you only need one? So it's not a big investment.
[00:50] <Brinson> she lives like an hour from the closest store that sells them though so didn't want to get out there with one that wouldn't work.
[00:50] <MeanEYE> http://www.milehighautomation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/cat53-vs-ca6.png
[00:50] <pppingme> if you terminate a cat5 connector or jack onto cat6 cabling, you've downgraded the whole thing to a cat5 install.
[00:50] <MeanEYE> That's the difference between cables.
[00:50] <MeanEYE> Cat6 has plastic inside.
[00:51] <sevenforall> MeanEYE: I didn't make any changes that are processing-heavy. I have a very decent PC that renders everything GIMP can do in less than a minute.
[00:52] <ErdMutter> I am looking for ways to improve security on Ubuntu 12.04. I have ufw setup, but I was wondering if anyone had some other suggestions xD
[00:52] <MeanEYE> sevenforall: In that case you should contact Gimp developers. And see what they have to say about it. It's not an OS issue.
[00:52] <MeanEYE> ErdMutter: Don't run scripts you download online. :D
[00:53] <MeanEYE> ErdMutter: that was a joke. :D :P In case I wasn't obvious. Do you have any reasont o be concerned about security.
[00:53] <ErdMutter> MeanEYE, Some of my old friends like to be 'jokers' sometimes.
[00:53] <MeanEYE> ErdMutter: And?
[00:54] <ErdMutter> MeanEYE, and I like to keep things as secure as possible xD ... not a bad habit to be in lol
[00:54] <dr_willis> read up on security basics and fundamentals. ;)
[00:55] <dr_willis> ufw may or may not make you any more secure. it depends on your setup
[00:55] <MeanEYE> ErdMutter: It's not, but considering Ubuntu doesn't have open ports by default and you are probably behind a router. Chances of someone doing somethign to your computer without having physical access are pretty slim.
[00:56] <ErdMutter> ok :) I guess I will continue reading more wiki articles on it then :D
[00:57] <dr_willis> biggest danger i fint to a typical ubuntu setup - is the  admin user  ;)
[00:59] <mesquka> hi
[01:00] <sonoffreedom> sup
[01:00] <sonoffreedom> sup
[01:00] <sonoffreedom> anybody use Arch
[01:00] <mesquka1> I do
[01:00] <MeanEYE> Yeah, people over at #Arch
[01:00] <MeanEYE> :D
[01:00] <mesquka1> On my raspberry pi
[01:01] <mesquka1> smartphones rule :D
[01:01] <MeanEYE> mesquka1: me 2 :D
[01:01] <sonoffreedom> really that awesome what do you truly think of it
[01:01] <mesquka1> ummm..... a bit off topis
[01:01] <mesquka1> topic
[01:01] <Levolent> I registered and used info in email but freenode still won't let me talk in #python
[01:01] <MeanEYE> sonoffreedom: Too much trouble for little effort.
[01:02] <MeanEYE> little benefit*
[01:02] <sonoffreedom> what is the greatest benefit from using Arch
[01:02] <mesquka1> haha
[01:03] <MeanEYE> sonoffreedom: Control over everything. And probably less resources used.
[01:03] <sonoffreedom> right on
[01:03] <sonoffreedom> Control over everything sounds nice
[01:03] <MeanEYE> sonoffreedom: but being rolling distro, that means you get the latest stuff. That also means latest bugs.
[01:03] <MeanEYE> For me it's not an option. I need my OS to be working all the time.
[01:04] <sonoffreedom> yea understand i use ubuntu 12.04lts
[01:04] <sonoffreedom> I have no problem running anything i want
[01:04] <sonoffreedom> netflix steam all kinds
[01:04] <MeanEYE> Am on 12.10. But am still careful about updating stuff.
[01:05] <pppingme> Levolent did you sign in using your password?
[01:05] <mesquka1> Linux Mint, usually, but using my Macbook Air because my PC is broken
[01:06] <Eliz> mesquka1: really, apple?
[01:06] <sonoffreedom> does anyone no how to use proxy chains in xchat
[01:06] <sonoffreedom> know
[01:07] <sonoffreedom> a single proxy i understand but multi I cannot see an option
[01:09] <MeanEYE> Why would you chain?
[01:09] <sonoffreedom> i don tmatter why i just need it
[01:09] <sonoffreedom> it
[01:09] <sonoffreedom> dont
[01:10] <MeanEYE> Hm, well you can only chain SOCKS proxies.
[01:10] <sonoffreedom> k
[01:11] <MeanEYE> SOCKS5 I think.
[01:11] <stercor> \q
[01:11] <MeanEYE> But am not sure Xchat supports chaining.
[01:11] <MeanEYE> stercor: Other slash. :P
[01:16] <sonoffreedom> k
[01:16] <MeanEYE> In order for chaining to work. Software needs to connect to one proxy, then send a command to connect to next one, and so on.
[01:33] <davidokner> Any chance of getting macs Ubuntu certified?
[01:35] <MeanEYE> Doubt.
[01:36] <MeanEYE> Apple is not really interested in sharing.
[01:36] <MeanEYE> Besides, what's the point to pay for overprices hardware and use free software on it.
[01:36] <arges>  /q
[01:36] <davidokner> MeanEYE: The reason I had in mind was so I could run non-mac software on a common platform without buying a second computer.
[01:36] <MeanEYE> Overpriced*
[01:37] <MeanEYE> Ah, okay. That actually makes sense.
[01:37] <MeanEYE> Well, Macs have a weird, not-up-to-standard UEFI BIOS.
[01:37] <MeanEYE> So they are kind of painful to program.
[01:38] <Eliz> die mac die
[01:38] <mesquka1> death to apple
[01:38] <MeanEYE> I do know however that Greg Kroah-Hartman was working on it. He has a MacBook Pro nad is working on drivers.
[01:38] <MeanEYE> So latest kernels might have some experimental stuff.
[01:38] <MeanEYE> All in all, I think it will be possible somewhere down the line to get Linux perfectly working on Mac.
[01:39] <MeanEYE> Certification is something Apple needs to apply for. And that's not going to happen.
[01:39] <mesquka1> well, I have ubuntu running on my macbook air from an external harddrive
[01:39] <mesquka1> that runs perfectly
[01:39] <MeanEYE> mesquka1: That version probably. Others have more problems. I guess you are just lucky.
[01:40] <mesquka1> macbook airs 2012 model
[01:40] <MeanEYE> Cool.
[01:40] <mesquka1> the newer models work fine
[01:40] <picca> Eliza: grow up
[01:40] <mesquka1> its just the old ppc ones
[01:40] <Eliz> picca: hey!!!
[01:41] <mesquka1> picca: you insult her, you have to deal with me :D
[01:41] <picca> mesquka1: nice
[01:41] <mesquka1> haha
[01:41] <realm174> I am a little confused about permissions. Ubunbu 12.04, Windows 7. From Windows, I need to access /var/log/apache2/access.log.  Do I need to add /var/log/apache2 to smb.conf AND set read permissions to access.log?
[01:41] <MeanEYE> I was so stupid to go for Sony laptop. Should have got Thinkpad X1
[01:42] <MeanEYE> realm174: Windows doesn't support linux file system.
[01:42] <mesquka1> MeanEYE: should have gone with a self built desktop
[01:42] <MeanEYE> mesquka1: Have one already. :D
[01:42] <mesquka1> :D
[01:42] <mesquka1> mine died
[01:42] <mesquka1> thats why im stuck with my MBA
[01:42] <MeanEYE> realm174: So the problem is lack of support for file systems, not permissions. If I got your right.
[01:43] <adamk> MeanEYE: Presumably he's trying to access the file over the network, otherwise why would he mention smb.conf?
[01:43] <realm174> MeanEYE: I can access ubuntu files via Samba shares.
[01:43] <realm174> Adam: Correct
[01:43] <mesquka1> samba file server?
[01:43] <MeanEYE> Aaah.
[01:44] <Eliz> picca: if you insult kieran you have to deal with me, it works both ways
[01:44] <MeanEYE> realm174: In that case, you need to share a directory that includes file you wish to access. Logs usually have Read permission for Others. So you should be able to read it.
[01:45] <realm174> MeanEYE: Thanks, that's what I was hoping for. I'll add /var/log/apache2 to smb.conf then, and see how that goes :)
[01:45] <mesquka1> Eliz: go to #ubuntu-au-chat for awhile
[01:45] <root> halo ho to install driver make on backtrack
[01:45] <MeanEYE> realm174: For security reasons, make the share read only. :) Not that it matters, but it doesn't hurt.
[01:46] <Eliz> yawn
[01:46] <Riley88> hey guys is there anyway to turn of virtual desktops on 12.10 if your not using them
[01:47] <MeanEYE> Riley88: On Unity?
[01:47] <Riley88> yea
[01:47] <realm174> MeanEYE: Yep, that's what I always do, unless there's a specific need to write to any share. But thanks for the tip nonetheless
[01:48] <MeanEYE> Riley88: Yes, but you need to edit some configuration. All in all, they don't take extra memory. So it might be best to just leave it. Not sure how Unity would handle different number.
[01:48] <Riley88> i was thinking it might save battery a little
[01:48] <MeanEYE> Riley88: Check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[01:48] <MeanEYE> Riley88: nothing to do with battery.
[01:49] <Riley88> oh
[01:49] <MeanEYE> Riley88: Batery is used by display, CPU, GPU, HDD stuff like that. RAM always uses the same amount of battery.
[01:49] <Muphrid> Riley88: is your touchpad working now?
[01:50] <Riley88> yea i switched back to 12.10
[01:50] <Riley88> were u the one helping me with that earlier
[01:50] <Muphrid> yes
[01:50] <MeanEYE> I wonder though, how much battery life you would get if you would use something other than Unity.
[01:50] <Riley88> i kept breaking x lol
[01:50] <Riley88> well arch and xfce i get around 4hrs of video playback
[01:51] <Riley88> unity on the 3.5 kernel i get about 3hrs 20
[01:51] <MeanEYE> Riley88: I meant, compiz is GPU intensive, as it uses GPU. Rendering stuff costs power.
[01:51] <Muphrid> I dont see any difference on mine
[01:51] <Riley88> the 3.5 kernel just kills my battery for some reason
[01:51] <MeanEYE> Maybe a regression.
[01:52] <Riley88> everything i have is intel pretty much
[01:52] <mysteriousdaren> Riley88: upgrade your kernel if possible or downgrade
[01:52] <Riley88> ive updated to 3.7 before but it made it worse
[01:52] <MeanEYE> Riley88: battery?
[01:52] <gavin__> hello
[01:53] <Riley88> hey
[01:53] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Hi!
[01:53] <Muphrid> Ahoy
[01:53] <Riley88> yea meaneye
[01:53] <MeanEYE> Riley88: did you try powertop? It will tell you what's using your battery.
[01:53] <gavin__> can anyone help me out? ubuntu keeps crashing, whenever i hover over the task bar, it starts crashing and same with the icons as well
[01:53] <Riley88> on the 3.7 kernel i get around 2.30
[01:54] <gavin__> i've just installed 12.10
[01:54] <Riley88> windows 7 i get around 4 30
[01:54] <gavin__> does anyone have a solution to my issue?
[01:54] <Riley88> nice gaven
[01:54] <Riley88> what is it
[01:54] <MeanEYE> gavin__: laptop?
[01:54] <gavin__> it is a desktop
[01:54] <MeanEYE> gavin__: which graphics card?
[01:54] <Muphrid> gavin__: radeon card?
[01:54] <gavin__> i don't have graphic card
[01:54] <El-E-Va-Tion> anybody here know how to create a sudo shortcut on the desktop in 12.10?
[01:55] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Hm, are you blind?
[01:55] <gavin__> MeanEye: i had this computer for about 5 years
[01:55] <gavin__> i don't have graphic cards in them and that is just plain rude
[01:55] <Eliz> i think he means an intergrate
[01:55] <Eliz> d card
[01:56] <MeanEYE> gavin__: I didn't mean to offend. I was wondering what setup you have. Unless you don't have monitors you really do have a card.
[01:56] <Riley88> like intel
[01:56] <Riley88> mines integrated
[01:56] <Riley88> hd 3000
[01:56] <MeanEYE> ATI and nVidia integrate cards.
[01:56] <gavin__> i have a monitor
[01:56] <gavin__> how do i check what graphic card i have?
[01:56] <Riley88> thats not what he means
[01:56] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Can you do a "lspci" command and give us the output?
[01:56] <gavin__> ok
[01:56] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Don't paste it here. use paste.ubuntu.com
[01:57] <gavin__> ok
[01:58] <gavin__> how do i close the first firefox browser that i opened?
[01:58] <MeanEYE> First?
[01:58] <gavin__> the web browser won't open
[01:58] <MeanEYE> Hm.
[01:58] <Muphrid> kill the process in gnome system monitor
[01:58] <MeanEYE> This really does sound like a driver issue.
[01:58] <MeanEYE> Let me check something.
[01:58] <Muphrid> or pkill firefox
[01:59] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Can you paste here what you get when you do "lspci | grep VGA"
[01:59] <Riley88> launch firefox from the terminal and see what it says
[02:00] <Muphrid> gavin__: paste only the line which starts with "VGA Compatible Controller"
[02:01] <acovrig> I have ubuntu 12 in a partition, can I resize it,add a new one setup lvm in the new partition, then move my current install into the lvm, then resize the lvm partition to the entire drive?
[02:01] <niki> Hi MeanEYE, are you still available
[02:02] <niki> my computer just shutdown by itself, not a powercut or anything
[02:02] <MeanEYE> niki: Yeah, for what? :D
[02:02] <MeanEYE> niki: Did you do a memory test?
[02:02] <niki> i couldnt computer shutdown by itself for no apparent reason
[02:02] <El-E-Va-Tion> thx, I figured it out anyway, just needed gksudo instead of sudo
[02:02] <El-E-Va-Tion> peace :) g'luck
[02:02] <niki> what was the command again that i required
[02:02] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Yes. It's not as simple as it sounds but it's possible. You can only resize if you have free space. Just so you know.
[02:02] <MeanEYE> niki: For memory test?
[02:03] <niki> think it was or something to do with driver
[02:03] <MeanEYE> niki: Sorry, I don't remember problems for long. So if you don't mind reminding me.
[02:03] <acovrig> MeanEYE: I want to convert my partition to lvm so I can setup xen
[02:03] <niki> MeanEYE: my task bar keeps crashing when i hover over the icons
[02:04] <MeanEYE> niki: Ahh, gavin?
[02:04] <niki> MeanEYE: I just installed Ubuntu and it keeps crashing
[02:04] <niki> MeanEYE: yea thats me
[02:04] <MeanEYE> Okay, :D
[02:04] <MeanEYE> niki: So command was "lspci | grep VGA"
[02:04] <niki> ok
[02:05] <MeanEYE> niki: that will list only display adapters.
[02:05] <MeanEYE> acovrig: I can't really guide you step by step as that's quite a complex problem to solve. GPartEd is your friend in this case. Also you need to run it from live session, as you can't resize mounted partitions.
[02:06] <niki> MeanEYE: here is what it says in the terminal lspci | grep VGA
[02:06] <niki> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[02:06] <MeanEYE> niki: So you have nVidia graphics card. 6150. Did you install drivers?
[02:07] <niki> install drivers? you mean the motherboard?
[02:07] <MeanEYE> niki: No, nVidia proprietary drivers. I guess you didn't.
[02:07] <niki> I don't know how to do that
[02:07] <niki> are you able to guide me through?
[02:07] <MeanEYE> niki: Would you like to install them or stick with open source drivers?
[02:08] <MeanEYE> niki: Am pretty sure drivers are the problem here.
[02:08] <niki> whichever is the easiest?
[02:08] <MeanEYE> niki: Drivers are not hard to install. And process can be reverted.
[02:08] <niki> ok
[02:08] <niki> where can I get the drivers for it
[02:08] <MeanEYE> niki: to install use this command: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[02:09] <MeanEYE> niki: Drivers are in Ubuntu repositories. :) So no need for finding them. Just one command away.
[02:09] <acovrig> MeanEYE: Hows this sound? sda1 is /, resize sda1, create sda2 (ext4?) run pvcreate; vgcreate; lvcreate; dd sda1 >(the logical volume) in sda2; make sda1 /boot and srink it.
[02:09] <niki> ok, im quite new to ubuntu
[02:09] <MeanEYE> niki: No worries, that's why we are here.
[02:10] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Give me a moment to figure it out.
[02:11] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Well it looks logical, but I have really limited experience with LVM. Am not sure I shoudl be the one giving you advices.
[02:11] <MeanEYE> should*
[02:11] <niki> MeanEYE: I think it has finished installing
[02:11] <niki> MeanEYE: what do i do next?
[02:11] <Muphrid> niki: reboot
[02:11] <acovrig> MeanEYE: I'm in a similar boat, but am told it's the best way to setup a xen guest.
[02:12] <niki> ok
[02:12] <acovrig> and I'm going for win7 in ubuntu 12
[02:12] <niki> I'll reboot now and see how it goes
[02:12] <niki> talk in a bit
[02:12] <Muphrid> :)
[02:12] <MeanEYE> niki: That was suspiciously fast.
[02:12] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Am not sure what's the state of Xen. Any reason to prefer it over kvm?
[02:14] <acovrig> MeanEYE: can kvm do directs 3d in win7 (I'm new to virtuelization: I got hardware that supports it last wk)?
[02:14] <acovrig> *virtualization
[02:15] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Hm. You want to play games from VM?
[02:15] <acovrig> possibly
[02:15] <acovrig> I'm more of a programmer, but would like to have the option
[02:15] <gavin__> hi MeanEYE: are you there?
[02:16] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Am not sure that's a good idea. To my knowledge none of the virtualization solutions provide 3D acceleration. At least not for gaming. They usually emulate generic display adapter. Games would require direct memory access and that's something no OS would expose to a client OS.
[02:16] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Yes.
[02:17] <gavin__> MeanEYE: the taskbar has stopped crashing now and same with the icons
[02:17] <gavin__> don't know if it will crash in the future
[02:17] <gavin__> but I think that sorted the issue out
[02:17] <MeanEYE> gavin__: Glad it solved your problem. I doubt it will crash in the future.
[02:17] <gavin__> thank you for your help
[02:18] <MeanEYE> gavin__: No problem. :D And sorry if I sounded offensive :P ... didn't mean to.
[02:18] <acovrig> MeanEYE: I know (tried vbox), but don't want to shut down ubuntu to dual boot windows (I have services in ubuntu I don't want to stop (apache/sshd,ect.)
[02:18] <gavin__> thats ok
[02:18] <gavin__> we'll speak soon
[02:18] <MeanEYE> :D
[02:18] <gavin__> bye for now
[02:18] <gavin__> :)
[02:18] <MeanEYE> have fun!
[02:19] <OmegaX> I need to record my audio output into a ogg or mp3 file, how do i do this?
[02:19] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Tough problem. To be honest am not sure how good Xen is for gaming.
[02:21] <acovrig> MeanEYE:  yea, as far as I've seen, xen is perfect for this, but the cpu has to support IOMMU and mine doesn't, so it's probably the same as the others
[02:21] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Quick search shows there might be something to it. But I've never played with it.
[02:21] <MeanEYE> May I ask which games? :D
[02:21] <acovrig> MeanEYE: xen or kvm?
[02:21] <acovrig> minecraft, portal
[02:22] <ElectricPrism> Can I pipe my audio output to an in channel so I can record it in Audacity?
[02:22] <MeanEYE> Minecraft is Linux native, and Portal 2 is comming to linux in less than a month.
[02:22] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Portal one is Wine compatible, because Valve is not a douche.
[02:23] <ElectricPrism> sweet
[02:23] <MeanEYE> ElectricPrism: Linux is quite flexible with sound, but for anything more exotic than standard use I'd suggest looking at Jack. That's audio daemon built for that stuff.
[02:23] <acovrig> I forgot about wine, last time I used it it was on a *small* sys so it wouldn't work so I guess I blamed wine when it was probably the sys specs.
[02:23] <MeanEYE> And that's pretty much all I can help with :D audio on Linux. :P
[02:23] <BWMerlin> I have been told that I need to "go to synaptic and fix broken drivers" but I don't actually know how to do that once I am in synaptic
[02:23] <cfhowlett> ElectricPrism: yes ... jack would be the cure, but I don't know how to configure what you want.
[02:23] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Wine has come a long way.
[02:23] <ElectricPrism> MeanEYE: Thanks for the starting point :) will do
[02:24] <ElectricPrism> MeanEYE: Do you know of any other games coming to linux soon? I've been dying for some stuff to buy on steam
[02:24] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: You can do it from command line. No need for synaptic. But in Synaptic you have "Fix broken packages' item somewhere in menu.
[02:24] <acovrig> yea, also, someone mentioned wine for mac, afaik: there is no 'wine' for mac, but there is a commercial 'version' called crossover, that sound right?
[02:24] <MeanEYE> ElectricPrism: Steam is public beta now. I have some 40ish games on there. :D
[02:25] <ElectricPrism> =O
[02:25] <MeanEYE> ElectricPrism: TF2 is out, and works. That means Source engine is ported. So, we can expect Left 4 Dead (that already works but is still being tested), portal, counter strike and DotA 2.
[02:25] <BWMerlin> MeanEYE: I tried that but it didn't appear to work, I am trying to install  glx-alternative-nvidia but when I do I get the following error message "The following packages have unmet dependencies: glx-alternative-nvidia : Depends: glx-diversions (= 0.2.2) Depends: glx-alternative-mesa E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[02:26] <MeanEYE> ElectricPrism: Serious Sam is out, and bunch of indie games. Trine is always nice to play. Bastion <3... hm what else. Torchlight. Legend of Grimrock <3 ah, so much fun.
[02:26] <ben__> hey
[02:27] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: Hm. Did you add any PPA?
[02:27] <ElectricPrism> MeanEYE: <3 Bastion as well, Ill look @ Legend
[02:28] <BWMerlin> I am unsure, I am going to go with no
[02:28] <MeanEYE> ElectricPrism: Legend of Grimrock is a oldschool dungeon crawler with modern graphics. Really good RPG. But only if youa re into that stuff.
[02:28] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: I would expect that as well. Can you run this command: sudo apt-get install -f
[02:29] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Hm, well Crossover is commercial, but Wine works good. Especially with games that have been developed by companies who know what they are doing.
[02:30] <acovrig> MeanEYE: have u heard of a mac version of wine?
[02:30] <acovrig> because someone asked about it and I couldn't find it
[02:30] <MeanEYE> acovrig: Nope. Never heard of it.
[02:31] <LZ2ILR> hi am i in a good place for ubuntu linaro advice? linaro irc is dead
[02:32] <BWMerlin> acovrig: http://www.davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/
[02:32] <cfhowlett> LZ2ILR: linaro?  NO idea what that is...
[02:32] <BWMerlin> MeanEYE: done and it says it changed nothing
[02:32] <LZ2ILR> ubuntu but for arm not intel
[02:32] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: doubt. This is just general support channel for desktop Ubuntu. But ask, might be able to help.
[02:33] <moes> Used a 16 gb usb flash drive to install Ubuntu 12.04...added apps and rebooted all apps saved...when I updated I cannot open some apps...out of drive space gparted shows unused at 13 gb...Where did I go wrong ?
[02:33] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: Hm, are you trying to install something? I mean when did you get that problem?
[02:33] <LZ2ILR> im trying to set up internet but my devices dont show on ifconfig
[02:33] <Ben64> moes: installed onto flash drive?
[02:34] <moes> ben64..Yes
[02:34] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: lspci says nothing?
[02:34] <BWMerlin> MeanEYE: I am trying to install league of legends under wine
[02:34] <SunMoonStar1> I have ubuntu on old lappy. Want to try lubuntu instead. I made a live cd on flash drive using netboot but when I restart the computer, it get's stuck at the logo screen. If I choose the option to enter setup options, it says please wait and then nothing. If i choose the 'change boot order' option, it also just gets stuck seemingly. Anyone know why it is locking up?
[02:34] <LZ2ILR> usb only
[02:34] <BWMerlin> it spat out that I had missing dependencies as well as no hardware direct rendering
[02:34] <Ben64> moes: pastebin "df -h; sudo fdisk -l"
[02:34] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: 64bit system?
[02:34] <BWMerlin> yes
[02:35] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: Wine requires 32bit system. that's why it's complaining. Some of the libraries you have are conflicting with 32bit ones.
[02:35] <LZ2ILR> lsusb lists all my net devices
[02:35] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: Further more, LoL doesn't work on Wine :(
[02:35] <SunMoonStar1> Anyone know my issue?
[02:35] <Ben64> MeanEYE: wine does not require 32 bit
[02:35] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: ifconfig -a
[02:35] <moes> Ben64...Not on flash drive now currently on 10.04
[02:35] <BWMerlin> here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141 and here http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2957372 says it does
[02:36] <Ben64> moes: well... put the flash drive in?
[02:36] <LZ2ILR> meaneye: that gives me >
[02:36] <revickulous2001> BWMerlin: It is insanely difficult to get LoL to work with wine
[02:36] <BWMerlin> T_T but it is the only game I play at the moment
[02:36] <moes> Ben64 I will do and return to xchat
[02:36] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar1: do you see the plymouth screen?
[02:37] <BWMerlin> and a little bit of Diablo 3
[02:37] <MeanEYE> Ben64: Did you try installing it?
[02:37] <Ben64> MeanEYE: it = ?
[02:37] <SunMoonStar1> Muphrid: no
[02:37] <MeanEYE> Ben64: Wine on 64bit system.
[02:37] <SunMoonStar1> Muphrid: it is the generic HP logo screen
[02:38] <Ben64> MeanEYE: yeah
[02:38] <MeanEYE> BWMerlin: Well, Heroes of Newerth has a native Linux client. But it's not the same game. Sadly LoL developers don't care.
[02:38] <MeanEYE> Ben64: and it doesn't pull ia32libs ?
[02:38] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: ok that lists loopback and a tunnel
[02:39] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Hm, can you paste your lspci output on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:39] <Ben64> MeanEYE: Thats not what you said before. You said "Wine requires 32bit system" which is untrue.
[02:40] <MeanEYE> Ben64: Ah, okay. :D Sorry for not being more specific. :D
[02:41] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: there is no lspci on the system...the arm board only supports usb
[02:41] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Ah, okay. lsusb then :D
[02:42] <dcope> is there a program to see wtf a trackpad is doing?
[02:42] <dcope> i need to figure out why mine is goofing up
[02:42] <MeanEYE> dcope: define goofing up
[02:42] <BWMerlin> I might try and copy my LoL install from Windows across and see if I have some better luck rather than trying to install it
[02:42] <AndChat330644> Hey guys. Anyone doing upnp/dnla over vpn??
[02:43] <nathwill> dcope: xev
[02:43] <dcope> MeanEYE: when i have a finger on the tackpad and click it is doing a secondary click when my xorg.conf tells it not to
[02:43] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: i cant paste or copy because that machine has no network yet. but it does list among many other devices the 3 different network devices i plugged in (hoping one will work
[02:43] <moes> Ben64...Now it won't boot..ERROR "can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[02:43] <MeanEYE> dcope: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe there's somethign there. Maybe Xorg is ignoring your config for some reason.
[02:44] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: you mentioned tunnel in "ifconfig -a" output. What's the interface name?
[02:44] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: imc networks 802, zydas 802, and ezconnect usb to eth
[02:45] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: You got me. That's the output of ifconfig?
[02:45] <AndChat330644> My dilemma is the following I use mediatomb that will only broadcast through one of the interfaces. Not convenient. Wrote a little that switches between interfaces
[02:46] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: sorry that message was out of sync
[02:46] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: ifconfig gives just loop, iwconfig gives loop and tunl0
[02:47] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: both obviously no wifi extensions
[02:50] <LZ2ILR> so i think i need to activate one of my 3 network devices and load kernel modules to drive them, right?
[02:50] <Ben64> moes: put the flash drive in and do "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin it then
[02:51] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: well yes. What am interested in is why that didn't happen automatically
[02:52] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: me too, i usually use puppy linux (i am on this laptop) and it just does all this for me
[02:53] <Ben64> LZ2ILR: is it a raspberry pi or something
[02:53] <LZ2ILR> similar but more powerful, olinuxino a13
[02:54] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: so you are connecting usb wifi dongles?
[02:55] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: yes currently 2 ports direct and the rest through a hub, it all shows correct under lsusb
[02:56] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: what does "ip link" say?
[02:57] <Ben64> LZ2ILR: could just be there are no arm drivers for the cards you have?
[02:59] <j0b0x> Hi all. I am trying to edit my php.ini file via the GUI, but it says under permissions "You are not the owner, so you cannot..."
[02:59] <j0b0x> Can I switch to root and edit the file via the gui?
[03:00] <j0b0x> or do I need to use sudo via the terminal and use something like vim to edit the file?
[03:00] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: loop is up, tunl0 is down. i have a less powerful board that worked ok with one of the cards, a ralink 3070L chip usb device i ripped out of a crappy android tablet (i figured there must be arm drivers for that and was correct. the other board that it worked on was running arch
[03:00] <j0b0x> Thanks!
[03:00] <MeanEYE> j0b0x: gksu gedit
[03:00] <j0b0x> Thanks MeanEYE will check it out
[03:00] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Am clueless here.
[03:01] <MeanEYE> j0b0x: gksu = sudo but for gui :D and yes you need to edit with superuser.
[03:01] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: thanks for giving it a go
[03:01] <LZ2ILR> anyone else want to try getting my network up?
[03:03] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: can you tell me the model of that wifi dongle?
[03:03] <dcope> anyone using ubuntu on a macbook? i can't find a working xorg.conf for the trackpad.
[03:03] <dcope> that mimics OS X's behavior
[03:03] <j0b0x> Great MeanEYE got it to work.
[03:03] <MeanEYE> j0b0x: Didn't have a single doubt in you. :D
[03:04] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: perhaps difference between working distro and Ubuntu is kernel version?
[03:04] <LZ2ILR> its a bare board with ralink chip rt3070L, i ripped it out the old tablet and soldered it to a usb lead, like i say it works on another board fine
[03:04] <j0b0x> Heh
[03:05] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Not questioning the board, rather kernel version. It's possible and the only thing that comes to my mind.
[03:06] <LZ2ILR> how do i find the kernel version
[03:06] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: uname -a
[03:07] <tmacy> hello
[03:07] <Riley88> actually uname -r
[03:07] <MeanEYE> :D
[03:07] <MeanEYE> tmacy: hi.
[03:07] <Riley88> will have a smaller output
[03:07] <goddard> i got a sata to usb dock and it works kinda but it only recognizes one partition.
[03:07] <MeanEYE> I think his cognitive abilities are fine :P
[03:08] <LZ2ILR> -a gives linaro-alip 3.4.19+
[03:08] <LZ2ILR> thats a pretty new kernel
[03:08] <Riley88> not really
[03:09] <Riley88> 3.4 is kind of old lol
[03:09] <MeanEYE> Considering there's a version every couple of months.. and latest is 3.8 :D
[03:09] <MeanEYE> Not really :P
[03:09] <revickulous2001> It's only a couple months old lol
[03:09] <LZ2ILR> i generally use 2.6
[03:10] <Riley88> eeesh
[03:10] <Riley88> how old is your hardware
[03:10] <Ben64> goddard: what are you using that it only shows one partition
[03:10] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Not sure if kernel is the one to blame.
[03:10] <LZ2ILR> so if i dont have modules do i have to download on another machine and transfer via flash disk:
[03:11] <LZ2ILR> this is getting like windows!
[03:12] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: on board this dongle is working, is it the same board?
[03:12] <MeanEYE> And is it the same OS.
[03:13] <LZ2ILR> its working on imx233 machine with arch linux and also with my eeepc701 and puppy lucid
[03:14] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: can you check versions there?
[03:14] <LZ2ILR> the a13 boards often bundle with a similar rt wifi chip
[03:14] <LZ2ILR> versions of...?
[03:14] <MeanEYE> Kernel.
[03:14] <MeanEYE> Or they are not running Linux?
[03:15] <LZ2ILR> puppy pc is 2.6 but intel architecture,
[03:15] <MeanEYE> So it's not kernel.
[03:15] <LZ2ILR> wait 5 and i will fire up the other arm board and check
[03:15] <MeanEYE> Is the dongle connected to HUB or directly?
[03:16] <goddard> Ben64: its a BlacX Thermaltake
[03:16] <goddard> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Thermaltake+-+SATA+Hard+Drive+Docking+Station+with+eSATA+and+USB+Connection/8990443.p;jsessionid=DD2FB2A13A55B367BAD4353B2775876D.bbolsp-app05-12?id=1218007083869&skuId=8990443&st=sata%20drive%20dock&cp=1&lp=2
[03:16] <Ben64> goddard: what program were you using though
[03:16] <goddard> Nautilus
[03:16] <Ben64> well theres your problem
[03:17] <goddard> oh?
[03:17] <Ben64> try "sudo fdisk -l" and it should show you all your partitions on it, or you could use gparted
[03:18] <LZ2ILR> MeanEYE: kernel 3.5 arch
[03:18] <Ben64> goddard: and in the future, check monoprice for stuff like that... http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10315&cs_id=1031502&p_id=5330&seq=1&format=2
[03:19] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Is the dongle connected to USB directly or to hub?
[03:19] <goddard> Ben64: gparted can see the other partitions
[03:19] <goddard> they just aren't mounted
[03:20] <LZ2ILR> on the board it works with its via a hub (board has only one usb) on the a13 i tried both with and without hub
[03:20] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: I thought board might not be able to provide enough power for it. :/
[03:20] <MeanEYE> LZ2ILR: Weird. Well, am out of ideas.
[03:21] <MeanEYE> Maybe problem is simpler than it looks, and you only need a network manager to sort things out.
[03:21] <LZ2ILR> i thought of that, its a powered hub as well
[03:21] <LZ2ILR> im going to have to find out where i can download the module, or maybe i can copy it off the board that works
[03:21] <MeanEYE> For the record, 3.4 was released on 20th May 2012. :D
[03:22] <Ben64> you'd probably have to compile it
[03:23] <LZ2ILR> compile <shreek!!!>
[03:24] <LZ2ILR> give me dependencies, give me libs... compile my libs...
[03:24] <revickulous2001> MeanEYE: But 3.4.19 was released November 17th :P
[03:24] <MeanEYE> revickulous2001: It's a update release. :)
[03:24] <LZ2ILR> i wish i was released
[03:24] <Ben64> 3.4.24 was released December 17th :D
[03:25] <Ben64> hmm... why does 12.04 have 3.2
[03:26] <revickulous2001> Stability, I would assume.
[03:26] <MeanEYE> Yeah. GKH maintains a lot of kernel versions. :D
[03:26] <MeanEYE> Poor fella.
[03:27] <LZ2ILR> thanks for the help guys, im off to bed, its half 5, seeya another day
[03:27] <MeanEYE> Okay. Sorry for not helping. ;D
[03:28] <LZ2ILR> by eliminating some faults you will have helped a lot. night all
[03:31] <MeanEYE> Well, folks. Now you can witness Linux becomming a gaming platform.
[03:31] <Tmacy> why?
[03:32] <MeanEYE> Valve's electronic engineer said SteamBox is due in 2013.
[03:32] <MeanEYE> And it's running Linux.
[03:32] <MeanEYE> Love em or hate them, this is what brings attention to Linux.
[03:33] <Tmacy> linux is everywhere
[03:33] <revickulous2001> What is SteamBox?  A gaming console?
[03:33] <MeanEYE> Yeah, Valve's gaming console.
[03:35] <MeanEYE> Tmacy: it is everywhere, but this is what will pull desktop users to Linux. Which is great.
[03:36] <Tmacy> great!
[03:36] <MeanEYE> Just imagine.
[03:36] <MeanEYE> Every big publishing house will make games for Steam console, and we in Linux world get it.
[03:36] <MeanEYE> <3
[03:36] <MeanEYE> Valve gets great OS, for free. We get games and more users.
[03:38] <abby> time for lunch !
[03:40] <frozenlock> I'm trying to play stepmania on ubuntu, but my USB pad (input/js1) won't accept two opposing Dpad value. For example: L-R or U-D. Any suggestion on how to remap those?
[03:40] <Tmacy> i am a yang gay from china and this is my first time in xchat,so nice to meet you
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:41] <MeanEYE> Tmacy: I think you got the wrong channel. :D This is not dating channel.
[03:42] <goddard> i need to mount a couple partitions
[03:42] <goddard> whats the easiest way to do that?
[03:42] <MeanEYE> goddard: Automount on startup or manually?
[03:43] <goddard> MeanEYE: i think i want to just manually mount it
[03:43] <MeanEYE> goddard: In that case you use mount command.
[03:44] <goddard> just "mount /dev/sdd2" ?
[03:44] <MeanEYE> goddard: If /dev/sdd2 is in fstab.
[03:45] <goddard> MeanEYE: whats fstab?
[03:45] <MeanEYE> goddard: if it's not it's like this: mount -t type /dev/sdd2 /target/directory
[03:45] <MeanEYE> goddard: fstab is a list mounts with options. Helps when you want to mount same thing many times.
[03:46] <goddard> MeanEYE: oh ok where do I find out if it is in fstab?
[03:46] <MeanEYE> goddard: fstab is a simple file located in /etc/fstab
[03:46] <MeanEYE> goddard: so you can "cat /etc/fstab"
[03:47] <goddard> oh doesn't look like it is in fstab
[03:47] <goddard> fstab is for my internal disk drives?
[03:47] <MeanEYE> goddard: It's used so you don't have to retype everything all the time.
[03:48] <MeanEYE> goddard: Also, things in there can be set to be auto-mounted.
[03:48] <goddard> ahh
[03:49] <MeanEYE> goddard: So if you want to mount something it doesn't need to be there. It's just a convenience.
[03:49] <goddard> MeanEYE: ahh ok
[03:49] <MeanEYE> Like a convenience. It does have a purpose. :D
[03:49] <MeanEYE> goddard: So which filesystem is that partition?
[03:50] <goddard> MeanEYE: it is ext4 i think
[03:50] <goddard> one is linux one is extended and the other is linux lvm
[03:51] <goddard> i can amount the entire disk or only one partition?
[03:51] <goddard> that is from sudo fdisk -l
[03:51] <MeanEYE> goddard: Linux always mounts by partition. So you can moutn the whole disk by mounting each.
[03:51] <goddard> MeanEYE: ahh ok
[03:52] <goddard> MeanEYE: if i write a shell script i can just have all these auto mounted by disk identifier?
[03:52] <MeanEYE> goddard: If you add partition in fstab, you can have it automounted without script.
[03:53] <MeanEYE> Want me to dig up fstab documentation?
[03:55] <goddard> MeanEYE: nah its alright bro
[03:55] <MeanEYE> Okay.
[03:55] <MeanEYE> Everything in Linux is quite easy and logical. (I think).
[03:56] <tsubaki> how do I fix tearing in mplayer and TF2, its not a DE specific problem too
[03:56] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Which graphics card?
[03:56] <goddard> MeanEYE: ya it makes sense just got this usb to sata dock today because one of my computers died
[03:56] <tsubaki> GTX 460se
[03:56] <tsubaki> I have tried the work around in compiz
[03:56] <tsubaki> and the nvidia settings
[03:56] <goddard> it only auto mounts the boot portion i think 255mb bit
[03:56] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: So you have proprietary drivers installed?
[03:57] <tsubaki> yes
[03:57] <tsubaki> 310
[03:57] <tsubaki> Its an issue in Gnome and Unity
[03:57] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Do you have v-sync off?
[03:57] <tsubaki> also Windows movement becames "laggy" at times
[03:57] <mesquka> hi
[03:58] <tsubaki> it happens with it on and off
[03:58] <cfhowlett> mesquka: greetings
[03:58] <tsubaki> becomes*
[03:59] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: v-sync on or off?
[03:59] <tsubaki> irrelevant, these issues happen regardless of what I have v-sync too
[03:59] <MeanEYE> Hm.'
[03:59] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Can you be specific which 310 drivers?
[04:00] <goddard> MeanEYE: how can i figure out what type of file system it is exactly ?
[04:00] <goddard> MeanEYE: it just says extended
[04:00] <MeanEYE> goddard: That's a partition type. They can be primary or extended.
[04:00] <goddard> oh
[04:01] <MeanEYE> goddard: You can let the system guess filesystem type.
[04:01] <tsubaki> "using Experimental Nvidia binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library from nvidia-experimental-310(proprietary)
[04:01] <Transhumanist> How do I check what model of graphics card I am using?
[04:01] <tsubaki> system settings, detail
[04:01] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: So 310.14. Hm. Am using same, and no problems h ere.
[04:01] <goddard> MeanEYE: im trying to mount it and it is saying i must specify the filesystem type and i try using -t extended or Extended and it says unknown filesystem type
[04:01] <MeanEYE> Transhumanist: lspci should give more information.
[04:01] <tsubaki> yea,
[04:01] <tsubaki> I had these issues back in 11.10 too
[04:01] <MeanEYE> goddard: -t auto
[04:02] <tsubaki> 12.04 didn't have the windows issue tho
[04:02] <Transhumanist> Cheers guys. I found it in Software Sources -> Additional Drivers
[04:02] <tsubaki> and its some pretty extreme tearing
[04:02] <goddard> MeanEYE: no go
[04:03] <MeanEYE> goddard: Then try ext4
[04:03] <abby> @Tmacy...
[04:03] <MeanEYE> abby: out for lunch. :D
[04:03] <goddard> MeanEYE: what is lvm?
[04:03] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Hm, could the compiz be the one to blame?
[04:04] <abby> yes
[04:04] <tsubaki> It happens on Gnome shell too
[04:04] <MeanEYE> goddard: logical volume manager
[04:04] <tsubaki> the Windows movement is fine
[04:04] <tsubaki> but the tearing is still their
[04:04] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: shell uses opengl as well :/.
[04:04] <tsubaki> hmm
[04:04] <tsubaki> should I try a WM only?
[04:04] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: by tearing. What exactly do you experience?
[04:04] <mesquka> gnome could be using compiz
[04:04] <goddard> MeanEYE: http://pastebin.com/muFu5AZc
[04:05] <tsubaki> the top half of the screen has vertical lines
[04:05] <tsubaki> sorta
[04:05] <tsubaki> like that row (or rows) of pixels are off
[04:05] <tsubaki> to the side a bit
[04:06] <goddard> MeanEYE: thats my fdisk -l
[04:07] <MeanEYE> goddard: You can't mound sdd2, you can though mount sdd5
[04:07] <goddard> oh ok
[04:07] <MeanEYE> goddard: sdd2 is just keeps information of other partitions inside of it.
[04:07] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Hm, is the card overclocked?
[04:08] <goddard> MeanEYE: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[04:08] <tsubaki> no, the clock is reset on boot and only set by evga percision on windows
[04:09] <MeanEYE> goddard: Do you have lvdisplay command installed?
[04:09] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Hm, sounds like a driver issue. Did you try installing others?
[04:09] <tsubaki> yes
[04:09] <tsubaki> same issue
[04:10] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Did any drivers work with that card?
[04:10] <tsubaki> all had the same tearing issue
[04:11] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Tried other distributions or versions?
[04:11] <tsubaki> Mint, same issue
[04:11] <tsubaki> OpenSUSE w/ nouveau worked well
[04:11] <tsubaki> nouveau is the worst for tearing on ubuntu
[04:11] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Mint is pretty much Ubuntu. And it's not strange Nouveau worked.
[04:12] <MeanEYE> Did you try Swat PPA?
[04:12] <tsubaki> ?
[04:12] <goddard> MeanEYE: i installed lvm2
[04:13] <MeanEYE> goddard: what lvdisplay prints?
[04:13] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[04:14] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: But be ware. They are latest and greatest in drivers.
[04:14] <tsubaki> ok thanks
[04:14] <MeanEYE> You might not want that.
[04:14] <tsubaki> I know how to fix X
[04:14] <goddard> MeanEYE: http://pastebin.com/9BAyT7Sr
[04:14] <MeanEYE> Okay then. In that case I suggest giving it a shot.
[04:15] <tsubaki> whats the syntax for adding ppa's again?
[04:16] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: sudo apt-add-repository
[04:16] <Rosenzweig> Jacob1
[04:16] <Rosenzweig> Hey guys.
[04:16] <cfhowlett> Rosenzweig: greetings
[04:16] <Rosenzweig> So the Ubuntu Image is set to release in a few weeks.
[04:16] <Rosenzweig> Ubuntu Phone Image*
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !phone|Rosenzweig:
[04:16] <Rosenzweig> I've been snooping for information to start developing apps for it but the best I can find out is using the Quickly Pythons tuff.
[04:17] <Rosenzweig> Oh.
[04:17] <MeanEYE> goddard: http://serverfault.com/questions/36569/how-to-mount-a-lvm-partition-on-ubuntu
[04:17] <tsubaki> qt
[04:17] <Rosenzweig> Discussino there.
[04:17] <MeanEYE> goddard: Take a look at that.
[04:17] <cfhowlett> Rosenzweig: yep.
[04:17] <tsubaki> build them with qt and the webapp stuff
[04:17] <Rosenzweig> Discussion*
[04:20] <tsubaki> ok MeanEYE I have added the PPA how do I install them?
[04:24] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Just update. And then upgrade.
[04:24] <tsubaki> do I have to select a differnt? driver in software sources?
[04:24] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: sudo apt-get update
[04:25] <MeanEYE> Nope. They have the same name, and since they are newer version they will overwrite existing ones.
[04:25] <tsubaki> even if I have the 310 selected?
[04:25] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: Hm. In that case I think you should install nvidia-current
[04:25] <tsubaki> ok im installing current-updates
[04:26] <MeanEYE> That works I think.
[04:27] <tsubaki> also some preferencial thing
[04:27] <tsubaki> how do I get notifications on my main monitor
[04:27] <tsubaki> they seem to default the to right
[04:27] <MeanEYE> With Unity
[04:27] <MeanEYE> ?
[04:27] <tsubaki> yes
[04:27] <MeanEYE> I don't think you can configure that.
[04:27] <tsubaki> thats dumb
[04:28] <MeanEYE> Ubuntu developers were really against any configurability of notifications.
[04:28] <tsubaki> well they need some control over placement
[04:28] <tsubaki> at least being able to chose the monitor
[04:28] <MeanEYE> Be happy multiple monitors are supported.
[04:28] <c00kee> anyone have success running ubuntu on google chromebook
[04:29] <tsubaki> they want to compete with windows, they should be able to support the most basic features it has
[04:29] <c00kee> having a wee bit trouble running virtualbox on chrubuntu
[04:29] <MeanEYE> tsubaki: I don't know what to say to that.
[04:29] <MeanEYE> c00kee: Is it ARM based?
[04:30] <c00kee> yes
[04:30] <MeanEYE> c00kee: Does VBox even support that?
[04:30] <c00kee> running  chrubuntu right now
[04:30] <michael_2> Compete with Windows?  Why would any Linux distro want to do that?  Completely different uses between the two operating systems.
[04:30] <c00kee> which is ubuntu 12.04
[04:30] <zivester> what is the network manager in xubuntu? I have two with indicators spinning, and I'm pretty sure I'm only suppose to have one
[04:30] <tsubaki> Ubuntu is a Desktop OS (mainly)
[04:30] <c00kee> for chromebooks only
[04:31] <tsubaki> its competing with all Desktop OSes
[04:31] <tsubaki> OS-X, Windows, etc
[04:32] <tsubaki> brb gona restart X
[04:32] <MeanEYE> zivester: nm-applet can be started more than once. Is it Ubuntu with Xfce installed?
[04:32] <tsubaki> wait need toupdate first
[04:32] <zivester> MeanEYE: it's xubuntu 12.10
[04:32] <kslater> I've managed to only have 1 app launcher on my twinview, dual monitor desktop, but I have two top status bars. Wondering how to turn one of them off now. 12.04.1 LTS
[04:33] <tsubaki> how much of a preformance do you take from using a second X screen for a second monitor?
[04:33] <MeanEYE> kslater: I don't think there's a way.
[04:33] <kslater> argh
[04:33] <kslater> Not that big of a deal I suppose
[04:33] <MeanEYE> kslater: Just to make it clear, by status bar you are thinking top panel?
[04:33] <kslater> my monitor setup isn't quite right yet anyway
[04:34] <kslater> sorry, I don't know the proper names (they've changed and I haven't?)
[04:34] <MeanEYE> Yup. Changed everything that could be changed.
[04:34] <kslater> ribbon across the top that shows the application menus
[04:35] <kslater> time, network, bluetooth, etc.
[04:35] <kslater> top panel works for me
[04:35] <MeanEYE> kslater: time, network and similar are called indicators.
[04:37] <kslater> another new name. I did learn that one the other night when I was looking for an item I had on my 10.10 top panel.
[04:38] <kslater> does the Unity Launcher have an official name?
[04:38] <MeanEYE> Launcher is the toolbar on the left.
[04:38] <tsubaki> Dash?
[04:38] <MeanEYE> Thing that popsup is dash
[04:38] <MeanEYE> And menu is HUD
[04:38] <MeanEYE> Go figure.
[04:38] <kslater> HUD is the menu. Aha
[04:39] <kslater> HUD pops up when you hit the Wxxxxxxws key
[04:39] <tsubaki> no thats the dash
[04:39] <MeanEYE> Just windows key, that's dash.
[04:39] <tsubaki> and its the super key or mod key
[04:39] <MeanEYE> Am gonna name buttons in my program -> pancakes.
[04:40] <TXRoadkill_> lol
[04:40] <kslater> super key, like that betterer than Windows key
[04:40] <TXRoadkill_> Yeah, I haven't got the hang of that either
[04:40] <TXRoadkill_> The whole HUD/Dash thing
[04:40] <tsubaki> Windows is awesome in my set up, it blue screens on shut down
[04:40] <TXRoadkill_> The Dash in Apple OS X contains Widgets
[04:40] <kslater> tap Alt and you get a command window?
[04:41] <MeanEYE> Am using ugly stuff called i3wm :D
[04:41] <tsubaki> well time to kill x
[04:41] <MeanEYE> Works like a charm.
[04:41] <kslater> or what is that reffered to?
[04:41] <TXRoadkill_> yes
[04:41] <TXRoadkill_> short cut to a command line
[04:42] <kristenbb> What does 'build-depends' mean in a DEBIAN/control file of a .deb ?
[04:48] <docmur> I'm looking for a good dlna server to allow me access to my media, I tried serviio but it turned out to be horrible
[04:54] <Tsubaki> well some retard didn't put the kernel dependacies with the drivers
[04:54] <Tsubaki> so x is broken
[04:54] <docmur> quit
[04:54] <Tsubaki> and i cannot install the headers from linux-kernel-headers-$( -uname)
[04:56] <Kaligary> Hey guys
[04:56] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: greetings
[04:56] <Kaligary> So I installed perspective and Lmms but niether of them run
[04:56] <Kaligary> any ideas?
[04:57] <excalibr> Hey anyone use wine from wine-team's ppa? Does windows app icon showing on your unity launcher?
[04:57] <Kaligary> I'm using ununbtu
[04:57] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: unbuntu?
[04:57] <Kaligary> Excalibr I use "play-on linus which has wine built and an configs. it for me"
[04:57] <Kaligary> Yes
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: not ubuntu?
[04:58] <Kaligary> oh >_< Yea that I meant sorry
[04:58] <Kaligary> I've looked around online, but couldn't find any answers
[04:59] <Kaligary> Could it be that I'm using an older version?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: ok.  i'm familiar with lmms somewhat but what is perspective?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: and what version are you running?
[04:59] <Kaligary> It's a game, they made a build of it for linux and hold on I think it's 10.0.2
[05:00] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: confirm: lmms = linux multimedia studio?
[05:00] <Kaligary> Yes.
[05:00] <Kaligary> sorry it's 10.04 that I'm running
[05:01] <Kaligary> I picked it cause if I;m not mistaking it's the last version running gnome
[05:01] <Ben64> they all have gnome
[05:01] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: good to know ... ok, well, lmms is no longer installed by default for 12.04 the most current ubuntustudio
[05:01] <Kaligary> 12.2?
[05:01] <Ben64> there is no 12.2
[05:01] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: errr, the most current LTS ubuntustudio
[05:01] <Kaligary> 12.04..
[05:02] <subcool> Ok - so- someone please help me.
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: 12.10 is the most recent ubuntu
[05:02] <subcool> Chrome keeps complaining about flash..
[05:02] <Ben64> yep, they all have gnome
[05:02] <subcool> how do i fix it
[05:02] <Kaligary> Sooo... I have to have 12.04 or later for it to run?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: does perspective require lmms?
[05:02] <Kaligary> Negative, it is it's own software
[05:03] <Ben64> Kaligary: try running lmms from the terminal
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: ok and you need lmms for ... what then?
[05:03] <Kaligary> a quick looks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6bXbZQuwaA&list=LLwc-b_g4T_bc4Dotyn1VFAA
[05:03] <Kaligary> Lmms to use and make music of coure
[05:03] <Kaligary> I used FL when I had Windows
[05:04] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: nice.  sadly, YT is blocked here in chiina.  that said, I think you might want to take a quick look at ubuntustudio?
[05:04] <Kaligary> Ben what are the difference bewteen 10.04 and 12.04+
[05:04] <Kaligary> ubuntostudio?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: yep.
[05:05] <Ben64> 2 years.... 12.04 comes with Unity by default
[05:05] <Tsubaki> Unity is good
[05:05] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: but on Ubuntustudio NO unit
[05:05] <Tsubaki> but slow
[05:05] <Kaligary> That's it?
[05:05] <Tsubaki> under the hood stuff
[05:05] <Kaligary> Also ben I tried via terminal
[05:05] <Kaligary> no good
[05:05] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: no.  take a look for yourself at www.ubuntustudio.com
[05:05] <cfhowlett> www.ubuntustudio.org
[05:05] <Ben64> "no good" doesn't really describe anything
[05:05] <Kaligary> oh ok.
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: also see #ubuntustudio for general support
[05:06] <Kaligary> It brings up a window for it then terminates the window with out authorization
[05:06] <Kaligary> Ok thanks!
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: note: US 12.04 doesn't ship with LMMS as the new lowlatency kernel is installed by default for US
[05:07] <Kaligary> I burn my own disc
[05:08] <acovrig> I copied an ubuntu install to another drive and now it won't mount / on boot
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: US is too big for CD ... DVD or USB stick
[05:08] <zwirc> Hei
[05:08] <zwirc> Do i need to install any package to use Ajax in php? etc?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: but you might wish to try before you buy.  test it out in virtual box.  You've got a few more months of support left on 10.04 ...
[05:09] <goddard> I have a usb 3.0 external drive and it isn't recognized when I plug it into my USB 3 port only USB 2 port
[05:09] <Kaligary> Are you talking about ubuntu 10.04? I burnt a live cd and made it my default
[05:09] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: no I was talking about 12.04 ...
[05:09] <acovrig> I copied it with gparted (booted from usb), then grub-install and marked the partition bootable, when it boots, I get a mount error for / and the boot fails, why?
[05:09] <c00kee> anyone install chrubuntu on chromebook
[05:09] <Kaligary> What happens after support runs out?
[05:09] <zwirc> Do i need to install any package to use Ajax in php? etc? (ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[05:10] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: no more updates ...
[05:10] <michael_2> zwirc: Package?  You need an apache server to develop and test on your computer.  But AJAX is just JavaScript.
[05:10] <Kaligary> I see..
[05:10] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: you can run your software, but NO updates means no updates ... including security updates ...
[05:11] <zwirc> michael_2 strange, some scrips do not work after i moved server and installed lamp
[05:11] <zwirc> does i need any lib packages or something?=
[05:11] <michael_2> zwirc: No.  LAMP is all you need.
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: for a musician, US is very sweet ... a nice collection of multimedia and production tools.  Ardour is similar to FL
[05:12] <zwirc> michael_2 humm, strange that its not working then o.O
[05:12] <Kaligary> I guess I'll have to swap over to unbuntu 12.04 regardless. Also thanks I'll check that out
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: last thought.  do a clean install not a distro upgrade.
[05:12] <michael_2> zwirc: Does any PHP code work for you?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: I love US.  Ask me if you need help with the basics
[05:12] <Kaligary> Alright, will do. Thanks for all your help. And I'll be sure to do that
[05:13] <zwirc> yeah
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Kaligary: have fun, be safe.
[05:13] <michael_2> zwirc: Have you tried testing your AJAX in multiple browsers?  Certain browsers are pickier than others when it comes to coding conventions.
[05:13] <Kaligary> You to brother
[05:14] <michael_2> zwirc: PHP is server-depending...Meaning you need a LAMP server or something like that.  But the JavaScript part is completely dependent on the web browser.
[05:15] <Martijn-NL> Hi zwirc - i think your website url has been changed. Maybe the virtualhost settings in your Apache2 config are different. For example your website references to http://www.example.com and in your config stays http://example.com
[05:15] <goddard> I have a usb 3.0 external drive and it isn't recognized when I plug it into my USB 3 port only USB 2 port
[05:16] <zwirc> worked earlier, but sure will try
[05:17] <Martijn-NL> My advice: use the Firebug extension on Firefox or Fiddler to detect dead ajax links on your website.
[05:19] <Martijn-NL> Another opportunity is that not all javascript files are copied to the new server...
[05:20] <acovrig> mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted: / at boot
[05:21] <zwirc> michael_2: the page does not update (like javascript missing something)
[05:21] <zwirc> I need to update page manual to see changes
[05:21] <goddard> zwirc: what is your poblem?
[05:21] <zwirc> on prev page it did update automatic
[05:21] <zwirc> goddard: think i miss one package for my web server
[05:21] <Martijn-NL> Did you read my advice, zwirc?
[05:23] <zwirc> sorry Martijn, testing now
[05:23] <goddard> zwirc: what is the error message or what isn't working
[05:23] <zwirc> ajax script that updates mysql tables
[05:24] <goddard> ajax updates mysql itself?
[05:24] <goddard> or with php or something?
[05:25] <Martijn-NL> He has problems with his website on a new installed / configured server, especially making AJAX-calls. I think: incorrect virtualhost settings, some files are not copied?
[05:26] <michael_2> zwirc: Do you keep your MySQL database access constants (login name, password, etc.) in a separate file?  If so, was the file successfully copied to the new server and in the right location?
[05:27] <zwirc> goddard php ye
[05:27] <zwirc> ajax is just refreshing page using javascript
[05:27] <zwirc> michael_2 yes it is, and updated info
[05:27] <Martijn-NL> With the Firebug extension on Firefox you  can detect a lot of problems with websites (clientside), but you can also recognise server problems - like missing files...
[05:28] <alex20032> Hi, when we invoke python, which version is it?
[05:28] <alex20032> I mean, the default python in ubuntu 12.10
[05:30] <michael_2> alex: 3.2 I think
[05:30] <Muphrid> python --version
[05:30] <Muphrid> will tell you
[05:31] <alex20032> well, its because currently i dont have a linux box near me
[05:31] <alex20032> And i was wondering which distro made the big switch
[05:31] <Martijn-NL> By missing PHP files PHP gives a clear error message (if error reporting is on) : error_reporting(E_ALL)
[05:31] <fr33zrhyt3m> hi
[05:31] <Muphrid> quantal (python): 	interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)            2.7.3-0ubuntu7: amd64 i386
[05:31] <alex20032> Currently, i know that arch is officially using python 3.x as their default, #!bin/python pointing to python 3
[05:32] <fr33zrhyt3m> anyone know how to run game via wine on ubuntu 12.10
[05:32] <alex20032> quantal is 12.10?
[05:32] <Muphrid> yes
[05:32] <michael_2> alex: I'm pretty sure that Python 3.2 is included with 12.10.  But I can't promise that I'm right lol.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> !wine|fr33zrhyt3m:
[05:32] <Muphrid> it is included
[05:32] <Muphrid> but you have to specify the version to invoke it
[05:32] <alex20032> well, i was not asking if included, but if default
[05:32] <michael_2> alex: Just use a ln command and set the default to what you want
[05:33] <fr33zrhyt3m> thx
[05:33] <alex20032> anyway, im sure in the next version (or the version after the next) will be 3
[05:33] <Muphrid> they still have apps to port before making it default
[05:33] <alex20032> no, changing the symlink will break lot of script if its not using 3.x as default
[05:35] <michael_2> alex: what's the difference between typing 'python' and 'python3.2' besides the three extra keystrokes?
[05:36] <zwirc> How to use the firebug o.O
[05:36] <michael_2> alex: Furthermore, you don't have to change the link.  Create a link to 3.2 in your development directory that is outside BASH's PATH variable.
[05:37] <michael_2> zwirc: Firebug is just a Firefox extension.  Just download it from their extensions site.
[05:37] <michael_2> zwirc: It's a good development resource.
[05:38] <cynixx3> pse
[05:38] <zwirc> ajax_rank.php?upgrade=VarmSvartKaffe 500 internal error
[05:38] <Martijn-NL> Did you read the firebug manual? Have a good look at : http://getfirebug.com/wiki/
[05:38] <Martijn-NL> Hope you will find what you need..
[05:38] <zwirc> do i need to install jquery ?
[05:38] <zwirc> is that standard?
[05:38] <michael_2> zwirc: if you use JQuery on your pages, you will need to import it on every page.
[05:39] <Martijn-NL> What are you meaning by installing JQuery? You need to reference / include to JQuery before you use it for your website...
[05:39] <islan> oh man
[05:39] <islan> last time I ran Ubuntu was around 8.04 I think -- what happened?
[05:40] <michael_2> islan: It's about 8 versions better now.  :D
[05:40] <cfhowlett> islan: details of what are trying to accomplish would be useful ...
[05:40] <zwirc> michael : the strange thing is that it work on the old site
[05:40] <islan> installing the latest nvidia drivers seemed a lot easier back then, for one
[05:41] <zwirc> can i check php extensions etc?
[05:41] <zwirc> with a ssh command?
[05:41] <zivester> anyone know what the <input type="file" /> dialog box is called under ubuntu/xfce ?  I'm trying to figure out why it autofills when i click "browse" in Chrome.. I'm pretty sure it's OS specific
[05:41] <islan> but this download manager is kinda nifty
[05:42] <michael_2> zwirc: what extensions are you referring to?
[05:42] <Martijn-NL> Another opportunity is to edit your PHP file and add the following command in the first line: error_reporting(E_ALL);
[05:42] <cfhowlett> Localization query: during installation, update files are sourced from the main ubuntu site, not the local mirrors.  Can the be set to local mirrors prior to installation?
[05:43] <zwirc> michael_2: thats what i wondering
[05:43] <Martijn-NL> This command displays PHP error. Notice: you need to remove this line if your website is in production environment!!!
[05:43] <zwirc> its a ajax jquery script that do not work after i just moved the server from location a to location b
[05:43] <zwirc> but rest works
[05:43] <limikael> anyone who knows about a command for replacing text in multiple files?
[05:44] <Martijn-NL> Firebug displays no errors?
[05:44] <zwirc> ajax_rank.php?upgrade=VarmSvartKaffe 500 internal error
[05:44] <limikael> (could be done with a shell script and sed , but is there no single command that can do it) ?
[05:45] <Martijn-NL> Is that the error firebug gives?
[05:45] <zwirc> yea
[05:45] <zwirc> http://site/ajax------+++
[05:45] <islan> so is there any easy way to switch from Unity back to gnome?
[05:46] <Martijn-NL> There will be an error with the ajax_rank.php file or some PHP files ajax_rank.php includes.
[05:46] <michael_2> islan: just install gnome-shell
[05:46] <islan> okay
[05:46] <Martijn-NL> ajax_rank.php gives a 500 - internal server error!!!!
[05:46] <Kirax> Hello all.
[05:47] <islan> hiya Kirax
[05:48] <Muphrid> Ahoy
[05:48] <Kirax> How goes everything tonight?
[05:48] <Muphrid> !ot
[05:48] <arrrghhh> hey all.  can I add LVM to drives that are already partitioned / have data on them?
[05:49] <limikael> Kirax: this morning… :)
[05:49] <arrrghhh> or must I reformat/repartition for LVM...?
[05:49] <zwirc> ah, 7 in morning, have to sleep :/
[05:49] <zwirc> but tnx for help, will try with firebug tomorrow
[05:49] <zwirc> gn
[05:49] <limikael> the rooster woke me early today.. :)
[05:50] <Kirax> hehe. LVM?
[05:50] <limikael> logical volume manager?
[05:50] <nocturnal_> if i run 'mv [folder name] /' does that move that folder to the root?
[05:50] <limikael> ah
[05:50] <michael_2> Kirax: Uggg...Don't say LVM.  I'm still pissed over choosing a LVM filesystem.
[05:50] <arrrghhh> limikael, that's what lvm is
[05:51] <arrrghhh> michael_2, I don't even want to know...
[05:51] <nocturnal_> because i cant find the folder now
[05:51] <arrrghhh> nvm I don't want to risk it.
[05:51] <limikael> yes i saw that sorry…
[05:51] <michael_2> arrrghhh: Nothing too dramatic lol.  I just REALLY wanted to install ElementaryOS Luna today and it doesn't support LVM yet.  :P
[05:52] <michael_2> And I wasn't about to wipe my Ubuntu partition for a beta linux distro lol
[05:53] <Hwkiller> michael_2: if it uses up to date kernel and kernel utils, it supports LVM; you'd have to do it manually, but you could do it
[05:53] <arrrghhh> uhm... this is bad.  it looks like the ubuntu installer changed all my disk types from ext4 to lvm...
[05:53] <Kirax> Oh LVM is cool! Learnt something new already lol
[05:53] <arrrghhh> I didn't "finish" any of these changes...
[05:54] <kslater> is there a way in Settings->Sound to control which application is at the top of the list in the indicator for the top panel?
[05:54] <nocturnal_> if i run 'mv [folder name] /' does that move that folder to the root?
[05:54] <arrrghhh> nocturnal_, yes
[05:54] <michael_2> Hwkiller: I wasn't able to find any options in the installer that would allow me to be selective of what part of the partition I installed to.  It seemed to only want to allow me to install to my full sda2 partition.
[05:54] <Kirax> nocturnal_ don't forget the sudo infront of mv.
[05:54] <Vencent> preced sudo
[05:55] <nocturnal_> arrrghhh, Kirax: i did and now for some reason i have lost the file
[05:55] <nocturnal_> err folder
[05:55] <spobat> Is there an option for moving one window to another desktop (quickly) ?
[05:55] <arrrghhh> nocturnal_, why are you moving anything to /?
[05:56] <michael_2> spobat: Yes.  Hold in the super key (in unity) to get a reference chart of the commands.
[05:56] <kslater> I'd like to know if I can control spotify with my bluetooth headphones (Nokia BH-905i), specifically next track. Unfortunately Rhythmbox is at the top of the list and takes the input first.
[05:56] <nocturnal_> arrrghhh: i was in a hurry one day and was typing out a path to move the folder and i realized i was running late so i just moved it to / for later and i came back and cant find it
[05:56] <spobat> michael_2, what is the "super key" ?
[05:56] <michael_2> spobat: the windows key.
[05:57] <michael_2> spobat: Linux calls it the super key
[05:57] <spobat> okay
[05:57]  * kslater needs a super sticker to put over the logo from M$
[05:57] <michael_2> kslater: lol
[05:57] <dr_willis> they got those. ;)
[05:57] <spobat> :D
[05:57] <dr_willis> and litt'e tux penguins
[05:57] <arrrghhh> nocturnal_, have you tried using the "find" command?
[05:57] <Kirax> hehe. I already scratched off the made for windows stickers on all my pc's. That was a proud day for me.
[05:57] <topper4125> My superkey no longer has a win logo on it, replaced it with a penguin
[05:57] <spobat> super+s <- :D
[05:58] <spobat> yeah, thank you
[05:58] <cfhowlett> "powered by ubuntu" ... system 76 IIRC
[05:58] <nocturnal_> arrrghhh: yes. both for the folder name and for .jpg which was the filetype of the files inside the folder
[05:58] <kslater> I gave a musician a Think Geek monkey sticker the other day. Maybe someone will give me a sticker in return
[05:58] <kslater> Plan 9 would be a sweet choice, just for the arcaneness of it
[05:58] <arrrghhh> nocturnal_, I don't know what to tell you.  look at your bash_history
[05:59] <arrrghhh> perhaps you mv'd it to /dev/null
[05:59] <arrrghhh> lol
[05:59] <arrrghhh> so the ubuntu installer flipped all the flags on my hdd's from ext4 to lvm...
[06:00] <arrrghhh> no mkfs was sent I don't think... can I just change the flags back and be OK?
[06:00] <arrrghhh> ugh
[06:01] <Kirax> kslater, I have this awesome sticker I was saving for a new laptop. Its a monkey "downloading" to a toilet ^_^
[06:01] <michael_2> arrrghhh: Any particular reason you don't want a LVM?
[06:01] <arrrghhh> michael_2, I do.  But I have disks that are already formatted ext4 and now I'm worried my data is fubar...
[06:01] <kslater> lvm is bad-juju
[06:02] <kslater> lose 1 of the physical partitions in the lvm and you're hosed.
[06:02] <arrrghhh> kslater, that's nice...
[06:02] <Kirax> I just learned about lvm recently, any reason why you consider it 'bad-juju' kaslater?
[06:02] <dr_willis> weird that it changed their type to lvm
[06:02] <arrrghhh> dr_willis, pretty sure it was my user error
[06:03] <dr_willis> biggest danger to a system is the end user. ;)
[06:03] <arrrghhh> yep.
[06:03] <michael_2> arrrghhh: Don't feel so bad...Ubuntu does everything it can to coerce you into use LVM
[06:03] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever noticed it trying to get me to use lvm.
[06:03] <arrrghhh> dr_willis, I read a warning message the wrong way... derp.
[06:03] <kslater> I used to think it was the cat's pajamas, but the fatal flaw is that sure-to-be-encountered condition where you lose a part of the logical volume.
[06:03] <dr_willis> but i tend to partiton first.
[06:04] <arrrghhh> screw it.  i'm just going to fdisk and change the flags
[06:04] <arrrghhh> i'm pretty sure that's all it's done...
[06:04] <michael_2> dr_willis: If you partition first then you'll be ok.  If you use the Ubuntu installer to partition...Those sneaky b'tards hide LVM in the filesystem type
[06:05] <dr_willis> sant say ive ever noticed the auto partioned doing more then a / on  primary and swap on a logical
[06:06] <Kirax> Interesting... I have recently been fascinated by file type structure on systems. So many options these days.
[06:07] <Kirax> ext4 has been treating me very well. Although I am a hard core do it yourself kind of person and would love to code my own file system.
[06:07] <kslater> if only we had zfs
[06:08] <Kirax> <-- is off to wiki for zfs.
[06:08] <Muphrid> we have Tux3 again
[06:08] <Abhijit> kslater, we don't have zfs?
[06:09] <Abhijit> !zfs
[06:09] <kslater> man, a guy goes away for a few months and the whole world changes
[06:09] <Abhijit> :-)
[06:10] <michael_2> kslater: You haven't been using Windows for the past few months have you?
[06:11] <kslater> michael_2: mostly I've been using hospitals and Dr's offices for the past few months. I only use Windows when I have to.
[06:11] <michael_2> klater: ach...That doesn't sound good.
[06:11] <kslater> Type IV GBM (brain cancer)
[06:12] <kslater> I go under the saw / knife again in 5 days.
[06:12] <Kirax> Be strong kslater. People do beat it ^_^
[06:12] <kslater> indeed Kirax and I intend to be one of them.
[06:12] <michael_2> kslater: I'm terribly sorry to hear that.  A lot of my family have gone through cancer.
[06:13] <kslater> this surgery is actually a good thing since it's my best shot at getting a 'clean scan' (MRI with nothing lit up)
[06:13] <cfhowlett> kslater: strong mental attitude.  I recommend the S. L. Jackson philosophy.  "I am sick and tired of this ..."
[06:14] <kslater> I have a great team of Dr's I'm working with. And The Great Physician is also working on me more than a bit.
[06:14] <arrrghhh> dr_willis, uhm... would there be more than just changing the flag to 83 in fdisk and writing it?
[06:14] <kslater> ok, back to the grind
[06:14] <Kirax> Oh on a side note, recently new to ubuntu 12.04 lts. Been using 10.04 for the longest time. I noticed something odd.
[06:15] <kslater> I have a ex-colleague who is a zfs fanatic, but I thought it was only available for *BSD types (and Slowlaris of course)
[06:15] <kslater> I'll have to tell him about this.
[06:15] <Kirax> Boot time / shutdown time and loading programs is very slow. I am on decent hardware. Already checked out cron / init.d and not much is in there.
[06:15] <michael_2> kirax: are you using unity?
[06:16] <michael_2> kslater: I'm pretty sure zfs is a port to linux
[06:16] <michael_2> kslater: meaning it's not native.
[06:18] <arrrghhh> so... is there anyway back guys?
[06:18] <kslater> porting code to a new platform isn't a bad thing, it just depends on the efforts
[06:18] <michael_2> arrrghhh: You mean to revert back from LVM?  Not that I can find...And I've been looking.
[06:19] <arrrghhh> I need to undo whatever the Ubuntu installer did to setup LVM on these drives and put them back to plain ext4...
[06:19] <Averna> Hi, I'm trying to update java on ubuntu 10.04. there are 2 listings for canonical in ect/apt/sources. does that seem right?
[06:19] <arrrghhh> michael_2, yea, I don't understand what the installer did... oy.
[06:20] <michael_2> arrrghhh: I suppose you could create a tarball of your system, wipe, repartition, then extract the tarball...
[06:20] <Kirax> arrrghhh my understanding is that once a file type is selected for a drive, only a reformat will change it. (I have limited knowledge on the subject though)
[06:21] <Kirax> Averna, have you tried getting it directly from the java creators site?
[06:21] <arrrghhh> wow... it didn't format to lvm.
[06:21] <Averna> Kirax yes, it seems like I have two copies of java 7. I want the most recent version so I can download minecraft
[06:22] <michael_2> Averna: I have two canonical sources as well
[06:23] <Averna> michael_2 ok that's good. so I guess I can move to the next step. I am using a ghacks directions site
[06:25] <Averna> tried to apt-get update and I get this msg: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[06:25] <Averna> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:26] <arrrghhh> michael_2, I don't get what you mean... make a tarball of what?  The data should still be on the drives, I assume... They're just trapped in this LVM thing?  Oy.... what the heck have I done.
[06:26] <cynixx3> Who has a favorite wiki on mounting??
[06:27] <michael_2> arrrghhh: The LVM wont mess up your data.  You still have your same filesystems.  It is just a different partition manager scheme.
[06:27] <topper4125> !mounting | cynixx3
[06:27] <milamber> cynixx3: man mount
[06:27] <michael_2> Averna: use sudo touch to create that file again.
[06:27] <arrrghhh> michael_2, I don't understand.  How can I mount the data on these drives now?
[06:28] <michael_2> arrrghhh: The same way you mounted them before.  But when using a LVM, the partitions are referenced by names instead of sda3 or whatever.
[06:29] <michael_2> arrrghhh: check out your /etc/fstab file to see if it gives any hints.
[06:29] <arrrghhh> I've on a livecd right now... I just wanted to make sure my data was OK
[06:29] <arrrghhh> before I proceeded to do anything else
[06:29] <cynixx3> milamber, :( i need more than a man. Its a topic that has me upside down and I can never understand why. I need a real tutorial on how the system finds mounting points and how it works
[06:29] <michael_2> arrrghhh: Have you not ran the installer yet?
[06:30] <michael_2> cynixx3: mount points are located in the /etc/fstab file
[06:30] <arrrghhh> michael_2, I had ran it, but stopped it when I freaked out.  Ran a different livecd and wanted to make sure my data was thar
[06:30] <cynixx3> Understand where they are. but sometimes something I plugs in does not show up in that file
[06:30] <michael_2> arrrghhh: The Ubuntu installer can safely transition for a classic partitioning scheme to LVM.
[06:30] <arrrghhh> oh... ok
[06:30] <cynixx3> I just want to read something that tells me why
[06:30] <michael_2> cynixx3: What do you mean?
[06:31] <michael_2> arrrghhh: Just don't select to record your installation OVER that partition
[06:31] <cynixx3> so i have a usb to serial adapte that i use with a rollover cable. Why does it not show up in /etc/fstab?
[06:32] <michael_2> cynixx3: Did you add it to /etc/fstab?
[06:32] <cynixx3> nooo
[06:32] <michael_2> cynixx3: It wont be there if you don't add it.  :P
[06:32] <Averna> Michael_2 thanks. Not familiar with that command. Can you explain? Do I need to go to /var/lib/apt/lists/ to perform sudo touch?
[06:33] <arrrghhh> michael_2, yea, I was really careful where the install was going...
[06:33] <cynixx3> michael_2: do you have a favorite wiki on mounting?
[06:33] <michael_2> Averna: touch is used to create an empty file if it doesn't exist.
[06:33] <topper4125> !fstab
[06:33] <arrrghhh> Oy.  I had a bit of a heart attack when I saw all the drives change from ext4 to LVM
[06:34] <michael_2> averna: just type sudo touch /path/to/missing/file/error
[06:34] <michael_2> arrrghhh: lol...They're still ext4...Just using a different partition managing schem.  Backwards compatibility might be an issue for you though
[06:35] <michael_2> arrrghhh: That's why I'm currently pissed at my LVM scheme.
[06:35] <ikillcypher> Hello
[06:36] <ikillcypher> Im having some issue installing my ati graphics card on my Ubuntu
[06:36] <arrrghhh> michael_2, backwards compatibility?  Just so long as my data is still there lol
[06:37] <cfhowlett> !ati
[06:37] <michael_2> arrrghhh: And on a side-note...GParted doesn't support LVM.  So you'll need to use a different partition editor for it.
[06:38] <michael_2> sudo apt-get install system-config-lvm    will give a good one
[06:38] <arrrghhh> cool
[06:40] <ikillcypher> ikillcypher@ikillcypher:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[06:40] <ikillcypher> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series] [1002:95c4]
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|ikillcypher:
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !ati|ikillcypher:
[06:46] <Averna> michael 2: Have tried sudo touch /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open and several other variations mostly saying it's not a directory or not found
[06:46] <Kirax> Goodnight all.
[06:47] <Averna> michael_2: also tried  sudo touch /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[06:47] <Averna> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[06:47]  * ikillcypher does not know how to install at all
[06:48] <flatuses>  :)
[06:48] <ikillcypher> anyone care to help how do I install the ATI Card on my system
[06:49] <topper4125> !ati
[06:49] <limikael> i'm implementing a server api and I want to make sure a remote computer is talking to the api and not a human with telnet, so i need to implement anti-captcha… what is a suitable anti-captcha problem?
[06:50] <CrazyZurfer> Hi guys, which is the command to setup some program to be easily executed from terminal, for example instad of "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start" -> just "sudo lampp start"
[06:51] <limikael> CrazyZurfer: the command needs to be in the path
[06:51] <limikael> so either add the directory containing the command to the path, or make a symlink in /bin
[06:52] <CrazyZurfer> limikael: I guess that I want that.. a symlin, how can I create one? :)
[06:52] <Marzz> When I copy directories (with big files like Videos) in the terminal - e.g. cp -rf /source/source /destination/destination - it does copy it but it doesn't show me anything that it is doing
[06:52] <limikael> ln -s /the/path/to/mycommand /bin/mycommand
[06:52] <Marzz> Is there something, a command or parameter, that I should type so it will show me the current file that it is copying
[06:52] <Marzz> It just stands there without telling me anything and only tells me after a couple of minutes if it was successful or not
[06:54] <limikael> Marzz: i don't know… what i usually do is check the target file with ls -l to see it grow
[06:54] <topper4125> Marzz have you read this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/cp-command-with-a-progress-bar.html
[06:55] <limikael> topper4125: cool +1
[06:55] <Marzz> limikael: That is what I'm currently doing too
[06:55] <CrazyZurfer> limikael: Thanks!
[06:55] <Marzz> topper4125: No, I just want something like the terminal will output what file it is currently copyiing or something just like when you are updating or downloading kernel updates
[06:56] <CrazyZurfer> I've just installed php5 cli, but don't remember it's package name, how can I remove it?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> Marzz: -v will give you verbose feedback
[06:56]  * ikillcypher cant install the ati card
[06:56] <ikillcypher> I already download the driver
[06:56] <ikillcypher> came with an extention .run
[06:56] <ikillcypher> I open it comes up with gedit
[06:57] <limikael> CrazyZurfer: that is possible… :) it is possible to ask what package owns a certain file, but i don't remember how
[06:57] <Marzz> cfhowlett: that's exactly what I
[06:57] <Marzz> mcfhowlett: that's exactly what I'm looking for
[06:57] <Averna> Hi, I was trying to apt-get update and got this error: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[06:57] <Averna> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:57] <Averna>  Michael told me to  use sudo touch /path/to/missing/file/error but I keep getting the no such directory msg
[06:57] <Marzz> mcfhowlett: thanks
[06:57] <cfhowlett> Marzz: have fun, be safe
[06:58] <limikael> CrazyZurfer: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/what-package-is-that-file-in.html
[06:58] <warfar> hey can somone help me figure out why i can't install wine?
[06:58] <delinquentme> needing to grep recursively through all *rb files for the string "search("
[06:58] <delinquentme> how do
[06:59] <warfar> http://pastebin.com/HsMq58dK
[06:59] <limikael> delinquentme: find . -name "*rb" | grep "search("
[07:00] <limikael> no
[07:00] <limikael> sorry
[07:00] <topper4125> warfar, did you read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#Troubleshooting
[07:00] <limikael> grep "search(" `find . -name "*rb"`
[07:00] <warfar> it has nothing to do with those issues :(
[07:01] <delinquentme> limikael, not sure... nothings happening
[07:01] <limikael> nooo… sorry again… let me try again...
[07:01] <delinquentme> haha
[07:01] <topper4125> warfar, wow.. just read your pastebin... ya... the troubleshooter aint gonna cut it... hold on, I have notes on that somewhere...
[07:01] <warfar> i also tried to add i386 as a foreign architecture
[07:02] <delinquentme> FTW!
[07:02] <BlackDalek> I am trying to upgrade a fairly old low spec PC from Ubuntu 11.04 to 12.10... It keeps failing with unrecoverable error ubi-partman failed with exit code 10. No idea what this means. Does it every attempt. PC s an AMD Sempron 2500+ with 1 Gb RAM, 64Mb nvidia AGP card.
[07:02] <datruth> Anyone have issues using a linux or bsd router connecting to rtsp client with nat'd cliented
[07:02] <datruth> clients
[07:02] <limikael> cat `find . -name "*rb"`|grep "search("
[07:03] <limikael> but… that will just show you the lines where "search(" occurs, not in which files
[07:03] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek: 1 gig ram?  I'd suggest you try lubuntu or xubuntu.  Both optimized for older, low spec machines...
[07:03] <arrrghhh> So can anyone help me with migrating from ext4 to lvm?  I really hope all my data is still thar...
[07:03] <CrazyZurfer> limikael: Don't get how to use apt-file, already downloaded and updated it
[07:03] <machicola> does anyone happen to know what these processes relate to: "kworker3:2, ksoftirqd/6, watchdog/7"
[07:03] <BlackDalek> what is lowest recommended ram for 12.10 to run?
[07:04] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[07:05] <kslater> Abhijit, michael_2 thanks for the pointers on zfs. I've installed support for it on my machine. I'll consult with my ex-co-worker on the details.
[07:05] <limikael> CrazyZurfer: dpkg --search /path/to/file
[07:06] <topper4125> warfar, have you tried: sudo apt-get update --fix-broken
[07:06] <warfar> not yet lemme try
[07:07] <warfar> Thanks! it worked :D
[07:07] <topper4125> kewl... be safe warfar!
[07:07] <CrazyZurfer> limikael: Thanks! that worked, problem solved :)
[07:07] <warfar> thanks!
[07:09] <BlackDalek> What does "ubi-partman failed with exit code 10." mean anyway?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek: partition manager could not complete it's task
[07:10] <Third3ye> Hello everyone :) Just installed Ubuntu to test it -- and steam for linux ^^
[07:10] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, so it couldn't partition the drive because....? it ran out of ram?
[07:11] <Third3ye> I've got a problem however with regards to using an external screen via HDMI. I want to hide the dashbar but once I have I can't make it appear again by either enabling it to pop up when hovering the left side of the screen or top left
[07:11] <warfar> i also have another problem with installing skype, here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/9xzr5AM5
[07:12] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek: I'm seeing multiple reports but no consistent cause ...
[07:15] <topper4125> warfar are you installing it from a deb file?
[07:15] <soulcito> is possible to configure a openvpn client without encryption?
[07:15] <warfar> topper4125, yeah
[07:16] <topper4125> you can force the install: sudo dpkg -i package.deb then after install use the same sudo command to fix it (source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222090/cannot-install-skype-due-to-dependency-errors-spkg-doesnt-install-dependencies )
[07:18] <warfar> ok i'll try that
[07:18] <warfar> also when i'm installing wine through terminal, how do i click ok for the tos?
[07:19] <topper4125> usually tab to highlight and 'space' or 'enter' to acknowledge it... its been a LONG time since I agreed to a TOS via terminal
[07:19] <warfar> thanks! tab worked haha
[07:19] <warfar> i just installed ubuntu on my computer today
[07:20] <topper4125> ahhh.. good luck with it! its all I ever use anymore (100% win free for 3 years)
[07:20] <warfar> i still have to use win7 for some games :P
[07:21] <topper4125> warfar nothing wrong with that... I see no reason to set up a 'puter the way it works fer ya.... I'm not a real die hard 'linux or nothing' kind of person :)
[07:22] <topper4125> Said that wrong: meant I see no reason to complain about how a person sets up their 'puter...
[07:22] <warfar> i'm just hoping i can use linux for most of my computing now
[07:22] <topper4125> there's good gaming in linux (and steam is on its way in... it'll open up a LOT of stuff)
[07:23] <warfar> yeah but the higher end games probobly won't show up
[07:24] <topper4125> we'll have to see, once the big software houses see if steam can make a profit from Linux, they'll come...
[07:24] <warfar> hopefully...
[07:26] <arrrghhh> Can I fdisk my logical volumes?  I'm so confused
[07:28] <TheRoot> is there any one have agood idea in ubuntu private cloud?
[07:28] <TheRoot> in credential exactly ?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> TheRoot:  a good idea for what?
[07:29] <TheRoot> cfhowlett credential
[07:29] <Syria> Can I give the same command to more than 10 computers via cssh? All I get is ten screens and each time I have enter the same command to each one!
[07:30] <TheRoot> hello cfhowlett are u there?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> TheRoot: see the discussion on credentials   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[07:30] <kslater> and on that note, I'm really going to bed now..
[07:31] <datruth> if rtsp rarely works over NAT what would be the solution?
[07:32] <topper4125> Syria, not sure if this answers your question or not: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1055429
[07:32] <TheRoot> cfhowlett thank you for the link ,but i want it for private <not amazon>
[07:33] <cfhowlett> TheRoot: ah. sorry.  such knowledge is above my paygrade.  ask in this channel or perhaps #ubuntu-server
[07:33] <rasanen7> is there a "list" of what mail is sent in what cases, to root for example?
[07:34] <TheRoot> thank you for trying cfhowlett
[07:34] <cfhowlett> TheRoot: it seems there is also #ubunt-cloud
[07:34] <topper4125> TheRoot, not sure if this answer will work for you, but might get you in the right direction: https://forums.rightscale.com/showthread.php?t=657
[07:34] <Syria> topper4125:  Actually I don't want to apply one simple command using a script, Sometimes I may use more than one.
[07:35] <andromedas> how would I add a program to a start up script with specific arguments?
[07:36] <topper4125> Syria: This maybe: http://www.frozenindustries.com/2006/09/21/control-multiple-terminals-simultaneously/ If not, I'm out of ideas
[07:38] <warfar> whats the fastest way to force close a program
[07:38] <arrrghhh> sudo kill -9
[07:38] <topper4125> !info keyboardcast | Syria
[07:38] <Muphrid> warfar: pkill nameoftheprogram
[07:38] <warfar> oh ok
[07:39] <lcabreza> any has an idea why teamviewer button connect to partner is greyed out on ubuntu 12.04
[07:39] <lcabreza> ?
[07:45] <Syria> topper4125:  keyboardcast seems a good Idea ! thanks, But do you know how to use cssh? clusterssh please? it says that i can the same change on multiple servers at the same time.
[07:45] <Syria> topper4125:  Please read this http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/clusterssh/index.php?title=Main_Page#ClusterSSH_-_What_is_it_all_about.3F
[07:46] <Syria> It says Any text typed into the administration console is replicated to all windows. ! but I don't know how to do this, I get all the windows infront of me.
[07:47] <topper4125> Syria, I'm pretty unfamiluar with that... I'll read up on it.
[07:47] <Syria> topper4125: Thank you in advance.
[07:48] <jayar> so i setup ubuntu on a raid array with 2 40gb drives, one seems to be failing, and the raid array is "degraded" how do i fix that?
[07:48] <jayar> it wont let me do anythin
[07:49] <jayar> the one drive is so bad, its serial #/model # is garbled even in BIOS...
[07:50] <Emanon> jayar: What type of raid? Redundant, Striping? Do you have any parity?
[07:52] <jayar> raid 1
[07:52] <topper4125> Syria, almost looks like keyboard cast and ClusterSSH are close to being different solutions to the same problem to me... with the exception of clusterssh being more of a setup for administration only, and keyboard cast being for a bit of everying (10 calculators lol)... This subject really is out of my knowledge base :(
[07:52] <Third3ye> Why is it recommended to download the 32bit version of Ubuntu? Is it just to prevent confusion in unexperienced users or are there actual compatibility issues with the 64bit version?
[07:53] <diki> I was wondering, can I embed some programs in ubuntu so I can run them from a livecd?
[07:53] <topper4125> Third3ye ... pretty much... they can't guarentee that everyone looking at ubuntu for the first time is knowlegable about 32/64 bit OS's and their limitations/expectations
[07:53] <diki> In particular, airmon-ng,aircrack-ng etc.
[07:54] <Third3ye> Damnit...
[07:54] <Third3ye> Can I just dist-upgrade to 64bit or do I have to reinstall the whole damn thing?
[07:54] <Syria> topper4125:  Thank you I will go with keyboardcast :)
[07:54] <Emanon> jayar: RAID 1 is a mirroring RAID so you have an automatic backup of anything on them the RAID manpage should have options for replacing one of the component drives in case of failure but if you give me a few minutes I'll try to find a how-to so you don't have to try to figure out which combination of flags you should use.
[07:54] <Third3ye> oh and proprietary nvidia drivers... are there compatibility issues with 64bit ubuntu?
[07:55] <tenX> Third3ye: think you cant simply switch from 32 to 64
[07:55] <brady2600> ok in my home folder
[07:55] <topper4125> !persistence | diki
[07:55] <brady2600> there is a folder calledfontconfig
[07:55] <brady2600> im not sure if its a system related folder or
[07:55] <brady2600> if its just some junk folder created in some process
[07:56] <Emanon> Try this jayar: http://www.howtoforge.com/replacing_hard_disks_in_a_raid1_array
[07:56] <topper4125> Third3ye, http://askubuntu.com/questions/5018/is-it-possible-to-upgrade-from-a-32bit-to-a-64bit-installation
[07:57] <Third3ye> lol
[07:57] <brady2600> there is a folder in my home called output
[07:58] <topper4125> Syria, you're welcome, and good luck with keyboardcast
[07:58] <Third3ye> Alright...
[07:58] <brady2600> inside the folder is a series of other folders, gif, exe, docx, all sorts of file types in this folder called output
[07:58] <brady2600> however, none of these folders contain anything
[07:58] <Third3ye> How about this: I use my TV as my main screen via HDMI and because of this I can't hide the dashbar because it won't reappear when I hover the mouse on the left-hand side of the screen, or the top left for that matter...
[07:58] <brady2600> is this folder junk from another process?
[07:58] <Emanon> Now, as a side note did you set up your RAID using the standard drive IDs (/dev/sd*) or via UUID (/dev/disk/by-uuid/<whatever the ID was> ?
[07:59] <Third3ye> Anyone found a solution for this? I was in the configuration file and it's set to <main>yes</main>
[07:59] <brady2600> is this some crazy system for outputting from programs to a million diffrent filetype folders
[07:59] <brady2600> can i safely get rid of this folder?
[08:00] <brady2600> ahhh chat rooms.. that special place we go to ask each other questions as a community so we can all ignore each other.
[08:01] <soulcito> anyone happen to where openvpn profiles (network manager) are in ubuntu 12 are stored?
[08:01] <brady2600> possibly hidden .folder in home
[08:01] <Emanon> Did you consider that it's because we might be helping other people and you are spamming the channel with many short posts instead of one complete one?
[08:02] <XRS1> output is not a folder you would normally find. see if its recovered data you recognise, otherwise throw it out
[08:02] <brady2600> when i ask questions in single lines, they get even less of a response
[08:02] <brady2600> but thanks for trying
[08:02] <XRS1> that was to you brady2600
[08:03] <jayar> Emanon: i set it up standard drive IDs...
[08:03] <chris___> hello can someone tell me how can i uninstall/blacklist vesa? i have already done it but it still reports as loaded.!
[08:03] <XRS1> sudo apt-get purge?
[08:03] <Emanon> Then that link I sent you should be accurate unless they changed something in RAID since the last time I used it jayar.
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> chris___: if it's blacklisted the module shouldn't load when you boot
[08:04] <chris___>   echo "blacklist vesa" > /etc/modprobe.d/vesa.conf   right?
[08:05] <topper4125> <-- done for now... g'nite
[08:05] <jayar> cool thans
[08:05] <jayar> *thanks :)
[08:06] <chris___> how can i remove vesa completely from my system?
[08:07] <H4xt3hpl4n3t> Does Ubuntu 12.10 have atheros Wireless adapter support
[08:07] <Emanon> H4xt3hpl4n3t: Yes.
[08:08] <Emanon> Mine worked by default anyways.
[08:08] <Geet> hi.. I used ubuntu using wubi for over 12 months now.. thought that was the safest way to try it out.. but now that i have done it i would like to dual boot my system with win7.. so is the wubi installation convertable to a dual boot?
[08:09] <H4xt3hpl4n3t> It hasnt recognised mine. But i also have the newer UEFI boot//Legacy mode enabled\\
[08:09] <XRS1> chris___:  you can sudo apt-get remove or sudo apt-get purge the package
[08:09] <XMLnewbi> if I needed to make a folder 777 in chmod             would the command look like  $ chmod u+x filename           Im not sure on the middle part
[08:09] <Emanon> I may just have a supported card too H4xt3hpl4n3t.
[08:10] <jayar> legacy mode just helps with old pci cards (sometimes isa, but i doubt anyone has that anymore)
[08:10] <XMLnewbi> used to making these edits in net2ftp but it giving me erros editing something out of httpdocs
[08:10] <XRS1> Geet:  back up your /home/ directory and once ubuntu is installed, replace it with your backup
[08:11] <XRS1> XMLnewbi: sudo chmod 777 /dir/to/path -Rv
[08:11] <Geet> XRS1 could you please give me a link for a step by step tutorial for this?
[08:12] <XMLnewbi> nice got it thx
[08:12] <mh`> http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install
[08:12] <mh`> @geet ^
[08:12] <mh`> the script has been maintained, works with latest version
[08:12] <Geet> thanks mh`
[08:12] <mh`> np
[08:14] <XRS1> Geet:  this is a lil more involved than what i was proposing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748541
[08:14] <XRS1> nice
[08:15] <XRS1> did not know about that wubi move script
[08:15] <annamaria> ciao
[08:15] <annamaria> !list
[08:16] <mesquka> hi
[08:16] <XRS1> hi
[08:21] <DrCode> hi all
[08:21] <annamaria> ciao
[08:21] <annamaria> !list
[08:21] <DrCode> I have two disk same size, is there way to do dd image from one to ther?
[08:22] <annamaria> yes
[08:22] <DrCode> It seems that I need more space to dd finish, can I use gzip?
[08:22] <annamaria> yes
[08:22] <DrCode> the image come demage
[08:22] <Ben64> DrCode: what are you trying to do exactly
[08:22] <DrCode> gzip compress at same time dd work or it compress after it finish?
[08:22] <DrCode> I have one part ext4
[08:23] <DrCode> it seems that the targer disk is smaller
[08:23] <DrCode> I want to image my hdd1
[08:23] <jayar> annamaria doesnt seem to be one of wit
[08:24] <Ben64> you can't dd to a smaller partition
[08:24] <DrCode> can I use dd to make image to hdd smaller then source?
[08:24] <DrCode> if I will use gzip , it can help?
[08:24] <Ben64> no
[08:24] <DrCode> ok
[08:24] <Emanon> Seriously can we just kickban anyone who says "!list" within a set short period of time after entering the channel? Cause that seems to be what trolls have been doing lately.
[08:24] <DrCode> is there other solution?
[08:24] <mesquka> resize partition before making the image
[08:24] <excalibr> anyone using Wine from its official ppa?
[08:24] <Emanon> Like set up a bot to do it.
[08:25] <DrCode> I don't have space to do it
[08:25] <Ben64> DrCode: you can resize the source partition to be smaller, or you can just copy the data using rsync or something similar
[08:25] <Ben64> !anyone | excalibr
[08:25] <DrCode> is there prog that copy only files and then I can mount it?
[08:25] <jayar> DrCode: i used xxclone
[08:26] <DrCode> xxclone , I can then mount it?
[08:26]  * XRS1 recommends Redo Backup: http://redobackup.org/
[08:26] <annamaria> ciao
[08:26] <annamaria> !list
[08:26] <Ben64> annamaria: stop doing that
[08:26] <excalibr> anyone using Wine from its official ppa? is your windows app icon showing in unity task launcher?
[08:27] <jayar> DrCode: it creates a bootable disk, but when in another system its completely mountble
[08:27] <DrCode> thankyou
[08:28] <DrCode> I will check it out
[08:28] <XRS1> i have wine current installed but on xfce. not currently in use for anything
[08:28] <keber> 4 vasaku südamega ükskotti ja 4 vasaku südamega jumalat ja 4 parema südamega ükskotti ja 4 parema südamega jumalat ja kuu peal on samamoodi maa peal on 4 parema südamega meest kellel muna on tagasi õmmeldud 4 vasaku südamega meest kellele muna o
[08:29] <jayar> np. its quick n easy. i did it when i got my new SSD, and didnt wanna reinstall. so i used XX to copy my entire install to the new drive (which was also a dif size) and it booted flawlessly. and when i switched drives back, i could mount it and had all my info there
[08:29] <bazhang> keber, english here please
[08:29] <wanfu> poor guy, uses icechat
[08:29] <Ben64> bazhang: its not even ubuntu related
[08:29] <aeon-ltd> !estonian | keber
[08:31] <DrCode> XRS1, redobackup can help me with diffrent size hdd?
[08:31] <XRS1> it will allow you to modify partition sizes
[08:31] <XRS1> easily
[08:31] <jayar> question (mostly because XRS1 just mentioned xfce) anyone remember lightstep? is there a way i can customize my Unity like that?
[08:31] <XRS1> graphically
[08:32] <brady2600> i used to use litestep
[08:32] <jayar> DrCode: yea its a GUI partition proggy, like PartitionMagic i guess (yes no?)
[08:32] <jayar> me too brady
[08:33] <DrCode> ok
[08:33] <DrCode> thankyou
[08:33] <brady2600> there was another one
[08:33] <brady2600> i forgot the name but, it had this really cool side bar
[08:33] <jayar> yea lightstep like fell a few times, then a bunch of people (devoted developers) picked it back up again
[08:33] <brady2600> you could hover your mouse , the sidebar would pop out, if you held it over the notes icon, a notes panel would pop out
[08:33] <jayar> but i havent heard of it in a long time
[08:34] <brady2600> you didn't need to save stuff on it , you could just write stuff down quick, and it would retract when you click on something else
[08:34] <brady2600> i miss that feature sooo much
[08:34] <jayar> yea i even made my own theme a few times, but everytime they updated the damn thing, my theme wouldnt work, and it was a resource hog, back when i had a 266Mhz with 512mb and thought i was KING
[08:34] <brady2600> it had tabs aswell, for multiple pages of notes
[08:35] <brady2600> yes.. thats why i moved to ubuntu, just the ability to theme without windows trying to kill it every new version of the os
[08:35] <jayar> so thats kinda my question... how do I... ME edit my ubuntu theme?
[08:36] <brady2600> ASTON
[08:36] <brady2600> thats what it was called, the other shell
[08:36] <brady2600> good question, i recall window blinds at one point made like a theme builder
[08:37] <brady2600> that would be awsome to have for ubuntu, an application for building your own theme
[08:37] <jayar> im a graphic artist... so i wanna layout my screen that looks like sex with bacon on top
[08:37] <Emanon> Aston Shell was/is awesome.
[08:37] <jayar> wait... yer sayin it doesnt exist yet?
[08:37] <jayar> how f'n open source is this?
[08:37] <brady2600> no.. im just saying it would be awsome
[08:37] <jayar> im mad that it isnt
[08:37] <brady2600> its my understanding that ubuntu is copyleft
[08:38] <jayar> yea but, ubuntu or not, theres tons of other *nix distros...
[08:38] <brady2600> yeah, i like ubuntu with gnome 3.6 though
[08:38] <jayar> wheres the "how to create your own KDE" or GNOME... or whatever
[08:39] <brady2600> one of the other features i liked about aston/litestep was that
[08:39] <brady2600> you could set it up so you could right click on your desktop
[08:39] <brady2600> and you could assign diffrent folders or drives to it
[08:39] <jayar> yea that was my biggest thing
[08:40] <jayar> right click = menu
[08:40] <jayar> and you could make the menu have whatever you wanted
[08:40] <brady2600> so you would see your drive, hover over it in the menue, then a dropdown would open up with its contents, you could quickly drop down , drop down , drop down and find your files quick
[08:40] <jayar> i right click BAM! theres my docs, projects, email...
[08:40] <brady2600> yeah...
[08:40] <jayar> LOVED that
[08:40] <bazhang> !ot | brady2600 jayar
[08:41] <mesquka> hi
[08:41] <brady2600> we are seeking support
[08:41] <brady2600> we are looking for that
[08:41] <brady2600> we are looking for what was being explained
[08:41] <bazhang> brady2600, its gone way past support. chit chat elsewhere
[08:41] <brady2600> nazi
[08:41] <degkorat> Hi, need help desperately about installing. It stocks on  "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"
[08:41] <Jester86> anyone following the ubuntu phone?
[08:42] <jayar> srry
[08:42] <mesquka> me
[08:42] <bazhang> Jester86, #ubuntu-phone
[08:42] <Jester86> ahh thanks bazhang
[08:42] <ben_> howdy late night ubuntu channel!
[08:42] <ben_> :D
[08:42] <bazhang> degkorat, stops for how long
[08:43] <bgg> me too
[08:43] <jayar> i've been on the IRC since '97. this channel isnt busy enough for me to care about that at 3:42am... however, i do completely agree with management, and i'll be moving to #ubuntu-offtopic if anyone wants to join :)
[08:45] <mma> quit
[08:45] <keber> 4 vasaku südamega ükskotti ja 4 vasaku südamega jumalat ja 4 parema südamega ükskotti ja 4 parema südamega jumalat ja kuu peal on samamoodi maa peal on 4 parema südamega meest kellel muna on tagasi õmmeldud 4 vasaku südamega meest kellele muna o
[08:46] <bazhang> keber, wrong place and language for that
[08:46] <brady2600> a ton of people idle in here, but ive never seen this room moving all that fast, the amount of policing here is excessive, authoritarianism is the way to win people over to your os
[08:46] <decci> I installed virtualbox 4.2 on Ubuntu 10.04.4 and it got installed properly but when I am running it through Ubuntu GUI its not working. how to fix?
[08:47] <jayar> decci: check your error logs /var/logs
[08:47] <mesquka> brady, please stop slamming
[08:47] <bazhang> brady2600, #ubuntu-ops should you wish to discuss further, NOT here
[08:47] <bazhang> decci, got the guest additions installed? the kernel header?
[08:48] <vect0r> Am I able to discuss wine related issues with Ubuntu here? Or only #winehq ?
[08:48] <bazhang> vect0r, app help in that channel
[08:48] <brady2600> yes.. go beg to the people who have already decided to ignore. Thanks comrad.
[08:48] <bazhang> vect0r, did you check the appdb yet
[08:49] <mesquka> finally
[08:49] <decci> bazhang: While I installed Virtualbox, I could see it starting Virtualbox Kernel module
[08:49] <vect0r> Yep, supposed to work fine according to appdb. I have a feeling it's an issue related to my graphics card and ubuntu, not sure though.
[08:49] <kelvinella> there is a bug in inserting text in xfig
[08:49] <kelvinella> missing fonts in xfig in 12.04
[08:49] <decci> bazhang: I dont see anything in logs
[08:50] <mesquka> vect0r: whats the app and problem you are having?
[08:50] <decci> bazhang: the var log shows vboxdrv: TSC mode is synchronized , kernel timer is normal
[08:50] <decci> vboxplci: IOMMU not found
[08:51] <kelvinella> gsfonts-x11 needs to be installed manually to get it to work...
[08:51] <decci> bazhang: How shall I start virtualbox
[08:51] <vect0r> It's a game - Rift - (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22884). I've configured as per those options (and tried many different configurations, as well as Wine versions) and the framerate is unplayable. 1FPS at most.
[08:51] <vect0r> Can get it to run and everything like that, but no dice on playability.
[08:51] <bazhang> decci, if the header and guest additions are installed, I'm not sure then; you may wish to also ask in #vbox as well
[08:51] <vect0r> i7 2600 + Radeon 7970 is what I'm running.
[08:51] <degkorat> Hi everybody somebody willing to help?
[08:52] <auronandace> vect0r: are you using unity/compiz?
[08:52] <decci> bazhang: virtualbox wont install if kernel header is missing correct?
[08:52] <mesquka> do you have the drivers installed?
[08:52] <vect0r> I have the latest drivers from AMD installed.
[08:52] <decci> bazhang: How shall I verify it running through commandline
[08:52] <jayar> ask your question, degkorat
[08:52] <degkorat> Thanks
[08:53] <vect0r> auronandace: Using 12.10 out of the box with unity.
[08:53] <degkorat> So I am trying to use Skeychup but I got a problem about pixel, and it does not start
[08:53] <bazhang> degkorat, how long does it hang at ldconfig
[08:53] <degkorat> sorry?
[08:53] <auronandace> vect0r: games in wine don't play nice with compiz, try another desktop like xfce with xfwm
[08:53] <decci> jayar: How shall I start virtualbox through commandline
[08:53] <bazhang> degkorat, thats your last question before you parted here
[08:53] <faryshta> Hi, does usb-creator works for other distros too? I want to install fedora on a usb
[08:54] <degkorat> this is my first, I had another one but solved already
[08:54] <auronandace> vect0r: its the very first warning in the topic in #winehq
[08:54] <bazhang> faryshta, use unetbootin, or ask in #fedora
[08:54] <degkorat> so this is my second
[08:54] <Muphrid> faryshta: no, use unetbootin
[08:54] <mesquka> channel is too fast to follow on my small phone screen
[08:54] <vect0r> Well, if it helps I had the exact same issue using LinuxMint.
[08:54] <faryshta> Muphrid, bazhang thanks
[08:55] <vect0r> It's not that the framerate is just slightly low, it's at 1FPS staring at the ground. I'm thinking it's got to be something else.
[08:55] <vect0r> Just can't figure it out.
[08:55] <jayar> decci: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/8224-secrets-for-controlling-virtualbox-from-the-command-line
[08:55] <vect0r> I'll give that a go, though.
[08:55] <faryshta>  /join #fedora
[08:55] <degkorat> Sketch up I mean
[08:55] <auronandace> vect0r: compositing window manager don't play well with wine games
[08:56] <bazhang> degkorat, and where is skeychup installed from, what does it do, is it a windows app through wine or what. please give us these details, First
[08:56] <jayar> bazhang: i think sketchup is a google prog
[08:56] <decci> jayar: I tried running vbox and it says command not found
[08:57] <degkorat> Yes, si it is Sketchup (Google 3d). You can use it for 3d drawing. I installed with wine after download from Google
[08:57] <bazhang> degkorat, and what do google forum s and the wine appdb say about using it with Ubuntu
[08:58] <degkorat> wine just installed. I follow instruction from http://ubuntuguide.net/install-google-sketchup-cad-style-app-in-ubuntu-using-wine
[08:59] <bazhang> degkorat, so you have checked neither?
[08:59] <bazhang> decci, did you read the article jayar linked you to?
[08:59] <decci> bazhang: Yes..I am trying to run vboxManage or vbox but command is not there
[09:00] <bazhang> decci, do you have the case correct?
[09:00] <degkorat> I just get the welcome page of Sketchup, then I get the error that sketchup was unable to inziate the GL... and say to be sure about driver but I don't really know the meaning
[09:01] <blaz_> how can i setup iptv over lan to work simultaneusly with internet over wifi? i have 12.04
[09:01] <bazhang> degkorat, and what does the appdb say about using that with ubuntu and wine
[09:02] <degkorat> what is appdb?
[09:02] <highway900> Hi, some processes I have started with upstart are causing my machine to hang when shutting down. i.e. shutdown is unable to kill the processes. Any ideas how to debug what is causing this?
[09:02] <auronandace> !appdb | degkorat
[09:02] <degkorat> OK, I will try it
[09:02] <bazhang> check there, degkorat , also google forums, and /join #winehq for particular app help
[09:03] <decci> bazhang: You mean in CLI
[09:03] <bazhang> decci, what is cli. you got a link to read about controlling vbox via command line, did you read the link.
[09:04] <highway900> bazhang, command line interfac
[09:04] <decci> bazhang: I am concerned about how to get Virtualbox 4.2 working rather than CLI
[09:04] <bazhang> highway900, context please,
[09:04] <degkorat> it seems nobody there
[09:04] <blaz_> anyone?
[09:04] <decci> bazhang: I tried /etc/init/vboxdrv setup..it worked but nothing openning up while i Click on VM Virtualbox
[09:04] <bazhang> degkorat, then be patient it takes more a single minute to get a response
[09:05] <decci> bazhang: How to verify the installation
[09:05] <degkorat> yes, wait
[09:06] <vect0r> auronandace: Thanks for the info, going to give it a try :) Can you point me in the direction into how to go about to chaing to something like xfce?
[09:07] <auronandace> !xfce | vect0r
[09:07] <still-point68> salve a tutti la mia scheda wireless  Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01), quando la spengo da tastiera non si riattiva. il led rimane sempre spento.
[09:09] <joapuipe> hi. I have tracker-miner-fs consuming 100% of one of my cores and 6.6GB of memory. Any advice to reduce the CPU and Mem. usage of this process?
[09:10] <blaz_> can anyone help me... i'm busting my ass on this thing for some weeks now
[09:10] <vect0r> Thank you
[09:10] <vect0r> !Xubuntu-Channels
[09:11] <nNa> How can I reduce the microphone noise? I know that in Windows, there was just a simple checkbox in the Control Panel, but in Ubuntu I tried alsamixer, etc., but I can't seem to find the option.
[09:12] <faryshta> how can I know my graphic card driver?
[09:12] <blaz_> please
[09:12] <Muphrid> faryshta: do you know the model?
[09:12] <bazhang> faryshta, lspci
[09:12] <malus> blaz_ restate your issue - I can't find your original question...
[09:12] <bazhang> blaz_, is that iptv card compatible with linux?
[09:12] <faryshta> Muphrid, bazhang http://pastebin.com/kVX7m52h
[09:13] <mesquka> lspci | vga
[09:13] <bazhang> blaz_, whats the exact make and model of it
[09:13] <faryshta> mesquka, http://pastebin.com/kVX7m52h
[09:13] <atlef> faryshta, open a terminal and type: inxi -Gx
[09:13] <Muphrid> faryshta: the driver for that is fglrx-legacy, what ubuntu version are you using?
[09:14] <faryshta> Muphrid, 12.10
[09:14] <blaz_> its not an iptv card its an ethernet card i already works so that i can view tv... just that i cant view v and use the internet at the same time....someone once told that the default routes need to be set up
[09:14] <faryshta> atlef, installing inxi
[09:14] <degkorat> Any news about Google Sketchup on Lubuntu?
[09:14] <faryshta> atlef, can't find package inxi
[09:14] <bazhang> degkorat, whats the appdb say? and google forums
[09:14] <blaz_> malus how can i setup iptv over lan to work simultaneusly with internet over wifi? i have 12.04
[09:15] <faryshta> Muphrid, do you think everything will blow or stop working if I uninstall that card?
[09:15] <faryshta> I mean driver. sorry
[09:15] <Muphrid> faryshta: what driver are you using?
[09:15] <degkorat> no answer from appdb
[09:15] <faryshta> Muphrid, I don't know, that is what I am asking
[09:15] <faryshta> Muphrid, which command can tell me?
[09:15] <bazhang> degkorat, its a website
[09:15] <Muphrid> faryshta: fglrx-legacy is not supported by that particular version of ubuntu
[09:15] <blaz_> i tried some things using ifconfig but if i delete the original default route an set he default route throught the wifi card then i dont have tv :D
[09:16] <Muphrid> and i would not advise using 12.10 in radeonhd cards...
[09:16] <Muphrid> there is a ppa for downgrading the xorg
[09:16] <atlef> faryshta, inxi should be there by default
[09:16] <blaz_> a similiar issue with windows is resolved by setting a different mtu
[09:16] <Muphrid> particular version of xorg* i meant
[09:16] <faryshta> inxi program not found :/
[09:16] <degkorat> hold on
[09:16] <faryshta> Muphrid, so what do I do?
[09:17] <Muphrid> faryshta: any reason you want the proprietary drivers?
[09:17] <Muphrid> they are not good for anything except gaming
[09:17] <jayar> blaz_: whats the error?
[09:17] <blaz_> not mtu i mean matrix (the value by which the order of cards is defined)
[09:17] <faryshta> Muphrid, no I don't I don't even know if I have it installed
[09:17] <faryshta> Muphrid, how do I know if I have it installed?
[09:18] <faryshta> Muphrid, is there an alternative?
[09:18] <Muphrid> faryshta: you probably dont
[09:18] <faryshta> Muphrid, so what do I do?
[09:18] <blaz_> jayar there is no error... just that i cant use the net while watching tv on the lan card
[09:18] <Muphrid> faryshta: what exactly do you want to fix, a slow system?
[09:18] <jayar> blaz_: are you using VLC?
[09:18] <faryshta> Muphrid, too much energy consumption and overheating
[09:18] <blaz_> jayar: yes i am
[09:19] <Muphrid> faryshta: follow these instructions http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[09:19] <64MACH8ZN> hello! i search a documentation of Applet Framework (gnome shell), can anybody help?
[09:19] <mesquka> faryshta: try underclocking
[09:19] <mesquka> dont worry,listen to murphid
[09:20] <faryshta> How do I know which driver I am using? http://pastebin.com/kVX7m52h
[09:20] <faryshta> Muphrid, that is for HD Radeon cards
[09:20] <Muphrid> faryshta: your is Radeon HD3200
[09:20] <auronandace> faryshta: lsmod tells you what is loaded
[09:20] <Muphrid> yours*
[09:20] <michele__> 3d ita
[09:21] <jayar> blaz_: you cant USE the net while watching tv via internet...
[09:21] <faryshta> auronandace, ok what do I look there?
[09:22] <mesquka> afk
[09:23] <jayar> blaz_: that was a question btw, not to be confused with a statement.
[09:23] <BlackDalek> hey... in the middle of installing xubuntu alongside my regular ubuntu - I am at the paritioning screen.. there is a left side and a right side but utterly no explanantion which side is which :( ... is xubunut the left side or right side?
[09:23] <gaussblurinc> hello! can anybody helps me with Applet Framework (gnome shell)?
[09:23] <iLogical> i don't have kde accessibility package installed but i have it running on my system tray, how do i remove it
[09:23] <iLogical> ?
[09:23] <blaz_> jayar: aha ok :D yes while watching IPTV i CAN'T use the internet
[09:23] <faryshta> Muphrid, but that will install another driver, I want to know which one I am using first
[09:23] <Muphrid> iLogical: do you know the package name?
[09:24] <Muphrid> faryshta: there are only two radeon drivers, the one included in xorg (xserver-xorg-video-radeon) and fglrx
[09:24] <jayar> blaz_: thats very odd. when you pause, can you use the internet? or is it just while its open
[09:24] <BlackDalek> is there a separate channel for xubuntu questions or is this the right channel?
[09:24] <iLogical> kdeaccessibility
[09:24] <blaz_> jayar: its while i have the lan cable inserted
[09:24] <iLogical> it's not installed though
[09:24] <atlef> !xubuntu
[09:25] <jayar> ...
[09:25] <Muphrid> faryshta: type 'lsmod | grep radeon'
[09:25] <Muphrid> is the radeon module is loaded then youre using the xorg driver
[09:25] <jayar> blaz_: please tell me that you have the lan cable inserted the entire time you are trying to gain internet access...
[09:25] <blaz_> jayar: because the default route goes through over the lan cable... which is hooked in a viedo out port on the modem, and has no internet acces, just iptv acces
[09:25] <Muphrid> if*
[09:26] <faryshta> Muphrid, http://pastebin.com/6WbRxF4Q
[09:26] <Muphrid> faryshta: lspci -v | grep -A 10 VGA\ compatible    could work aswell
[09:26] <jayar> blaz_: oh wait... you're trying to use an iptv connection to access the internet?
[09:26] <blaz_> jayar: i do not have internet over the lan cable.... its just for iptv... i connect via the wifi for the internet
[09:27] <BlackDalek> no one is awake in #xubuntu
[09:27] <iLogical> Muphrid, do you know how to disable it?
[09:27] <blaz_> jayar: no i use wifi for internet and lan for iptv
[09:27] <Muphrid> faryshta: yes youre using the radeon driver from xorg
[09:27] <jayar> well theres yer problem kid
[09:27] <iLogical> found it nvm
[09:27] <blaz_> jayar: but cannot use both at the same time
[09:27] <Muphrid> iLogical: i dont use kde, you should look for the package name. type ps -u yourusername
[09:27] <Muphrid> and look for the process
[09:27] <BlackDalek> hey... in the middle of installing xubuntu alongside my regular ubuntu - I am at the paritioning screen.. there is a left side and a right side but utterly no explanantion which side is which :( ... is xubunut the left side or right side?
[09:27] <iLogical> Muphrid, already found it, nvm, thanks
[09:28] <faryshta> Muphrid, http://pastebin.com/3ScZaG1Z
[09:28] <Muphrid> faryshta: yes, like i said...
[09:28] <faryshta> Muphrid, what if I uninstall that driver and NOT use fglrx?
[09:28] <Muphrid> going on
[09:29] <Muphrid> faryshta: you will have a low graphics fallback
[09:29] <Cur10u8> which torrent client is the best for ubuntu?
[09:29] <Muphrid> resolution and other things wont be detected
[09:29] <jayar> ohhhhhhhhhhhh i gotchya... so your wireless card is on yer wifi, but when you plug in to watch tv, it takes over your net... i cant say its an IP conflict, cuz im not sure how the iptv box gives you an ip (dhcp or static) but it sounds more like one of your lan/wifi cards is taking over
[09:29] <blaz_> Cur10u8: try transmission
[09:29] <jayar> i have 3 on my box, and i cant use 2 at a time...
[09:30] <faryshta> but to install fglrx I need to downgrade xorg right?
[09:30] <Muphrid> faryshta: unfortunately, yes
[09:30] <faryshta> Muphrid, I dunno if that is what I want. I prefer to roll back to 11.10
[09:30] <jayar> blaz_: have you tried to bridge the connections?
[09:31] <Muphrid> faryshta: I have a similar card, HD3300 and im running 12.04.1 , got no issues with graphics or performance
[09:31] <Muphrid> running the radeon module
[09:31] <degkorat> hi again, it says many things but not why does not work
[09:31] <Cur10u8> what can i use as alternate to notepad++ for windows. as it does not support ubuntu.
[09:31] <jayar> blaz_: (that worked for my partners pc which has a nas/lan and my network)
[09:31] <blaz_> jayar: yes its is like that :D i do remeber on win xp it was solved by setting a different matrix for each card then it would work.... on win7 it works automatically.... on raspberry pi i set it up using vlan
[09:32] <aeon-ltd> Cur10u8: what features do you need?
[09:32] <Muphrid> faryshta: the xorg downgrading operation is reversible
[09:32] <Muphrid> you can try it...
[09:32] <jayar> you lost me at matrix
[09:32] <vect0r> auronandace: Thanks for the tip, installed xubuntu and selected that as my session after reboot, however, still not going over 1FPS. The search continues.
[09:32] <Cur10u8> html and css editor.
[09:32] <blaz_> jayar: i will look insto brigding connections... one moment
[09:33] <jayar> put the interfaces on dif subnets maybe
[09:33] <blaz_> jayar: the lan is on static ip
[09:34] <aeon-ltd> Cur10u8: http://superuser.com/questions/256035/what-is-a-good-linux-html-css-php-editor-for-somebody-recently-migrated-from-n
[09:34] <degkorat> No help here?
[09:35] <blaz_> jayar: yes sorry its not the matrix its a value to assign to the card so the pc knows which has the priority
[09:35] <jayar> yea but you have 2 dif connections to the world. wifi and iptv. they both need to be in love with 127.0.0.1. they dont like to share tho... unless you running windows and enable "network sharing"
[09:36] <degkorat> Is there anybody around Bangkok that I can meet to let the program works?
[09:37] <blaz_> jayar: the value is called interface metric :D
[09:37] <faryshta> Muphrid, I see I have other xserver-xorg-video-* drivers installed
[09:37] <faryshta> Muphrid, including intel, nvidia, etc. should I remove them?
[09:38] <jayar> yea i knew what you meant :)
[09:38] <Muphrid> faryshta: they are pre-installed because people have different hardware and they should support the most hardware possible
[09:38] <Muphrid> they are inoffensive to your hardware
[09:38] <degkorat> Somebody here for help?
[09:38] <faryshta> Muphrid, so they are not causing overheating too? if I remove them something bad happens?
[09:39] <Muphrid> faryshta: no
[09:39] <Muphrid> they are not even loaded
[09:40] <keber> 4 vasaku südamega ükskotti ja 4 vasaku südamega jumalat ja 4 parema südamega ükskotti ja 4 parema südamega jumalat ja kuu peal on samamoodi maa peal on 4 parema südamega meest kellel muna on tagasi õmmeldud 4 vasaku südamega meest kellele muna o
[09:40] <jayar> blaz_ matrix is funnier. : however.. when you $ ifconfig, it shows 2 network devices, 2 IPs, they're both static, fine, but are the subnets the same? are the IPs the same?
[09:41] <keber> 4 vasaku südamega ükskotti ja 4 vasaku südamega jumalat ja 4 parema südamega ükskotti ja 4 parema südamega jumalat ja kuu peal on samamoodi maa peal on 4 parema südamega meest kellel muna on tagasi õmmeldud 4 vasaku südamega meest kellele muna o
[09:41] <jayar> !english keber
[09:42] <degkorat> Really not nice no have help. I am trying from many weeks to let the Ubuntu working and seems it does not and everybody looks like are an elite of programmer that never give a clear answer.
[09:42] <degkorat> I think I will remove all
[09:42] <jayar> degkorat: what is your issue?
[09:42] <blaz_> jayar: yes it shows them both wifi is not static.. i found something on the net now... will try it but will probably lose net connection will come back if it works
[09:43] <degkorat> I would like to use Sketchup. It does not work as it doesn not work Open office and more and I don't know why
[09:43] <degkorat> I spend hours on forums and terminal for nothing
[09:44] <degkorat> and sometimes I get tired too of course
[09:44] <degkorat> also the synaptic never have something when I look for
[09:44] <BHAGI> any backtrack buddies ????
[09:44] <degkorat> or maybe I don't know how to use it
[09:44] <IdleOne> !backtrack
[09:45] <mystery> Does anyone know anything about a user called chmod775?
[09:45] <atlef> degkorat, http://ubuntuguide.net/install-google-sketchup-cad-style-app-in-ubuntu-using-wine
[09:45] <BHAGI> yup @IdleOne
[09:45] <degkorat> Yes I did follow that
[09:45] <IdleOne> BHAGI: #backtrack-linux
[09:45] <datruth> does anyone connect to remote rtsp servers that sits behind nat+firewall?
[09:45] <jayar> atlef: alley-oop. you win, cuz i almost pasted that same damn link
[09:45] <atlef> degkorat, ok, and it did not work?
[09:46] <degkorat> but it does not start, it crash after entering
[09:46] <mystery> IdleOne?
[09:46] <mystery> Do you know a chmod775?
[09:46] <IdleOne> no
[09:46] <mystery> Damnit.
[09:46] <faryshta> what happens if I uninstall my graphic card driver? Will the computer not reboot anymore?
[09:46] <mystery> http://www.quotesdb.info/freenode/ubuntu/25Feb2006/28.html
[09:46] <BHAGI> why what happened mystery ??
[09:46] <jayar> faryshta: no
[09:46] <mystery> Do you remember that?
[09:47] <mystery> He added me on Skype, claiming he's "Anon" and is listing all m details (and my brothers).
[09:47] <mystery> my*
[09:47] <jayar> faryshta: it will boot fine until you get to the OS, then it will either tell you its broken, or not show you the beautiful images you desire
[09:47] <IdleOne> mystery: contact your local police, has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[09:47] <mystery> But look at that link.
[09:47] <jayar> lol
[09:48] <mystery> You've talked to him.
[09:48] <faryshta> jayar, well that is a problem
[09:49] <IdleOne> mystery: I have talked to literally thousands of people in the last 6-7 years
[09:49] <mystery> OK.
[09:50] <jayar> faryshta: when you uninstall a graphic card driver, when you reboot, it wants to reinstall it
[09:51] <faryshta> jayar, but if the system doesn't load I won't be able to connect to internet and re install the driver.
[09:51] <jayar> well if the system doesnt load, its not your video card thats the problem
[09:52] <faryshta> jayar, just to make it sure. how do I download installation files without installing them with apt-get ?
[09:52] <degkorat> still there? Suggestion?
[09:53] <Muphrid> faryshta: --download-only ?
[09:53] <decci> Hello
[09:53] <decci> I am getting some permission issue
[09:53] <faryshta> Muphrid, yes, so I can just install them if I don't have internet
[09:53] <decci> while starting virtualbox command in ubuntu 10.04.4
[09:54] <blaz_> jayar: i was playing around with the metric but i couldnt set it up properly i guess...
[09:54] <decci> While I run virtualbox command it says RagnaRok__ VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/Virtualbox.so") , failed : /usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so.4:undefined symbol: _ZN14QPaintEngineEx1drawEllipseERK5QRecr
[09:54] <Muphrid> faryshta: sudo apt-get install packagename -d
[09:54] <faryshta> Muphrid, trying
[09:55] <jayar> when you boot, if you get a messed up screen, use ctrl+alt+f1
[09:55] <degkorat> no time for me?
[09:55] <faryshta> Muphrid "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon -d" doesn't download anything
[09:55] <jayar> faryshta: you have internet now. download it, put it on a USB or CD
[09:56] <decci> RagnaRok__ VirtualBox: supR3HardenedVerifyFileInternal: cannot trust the file "/usr/lib/virtualbox/Virtualbox": group and/or other writable (st_mode=0100777)
[09:56] <jayar> degkorat: i'm not sure how to help you
[09:56] <degkorat> I need to be guide step by step, all the suggestion I get in forum and google are for expert, I cannot understand the meaning of all
[09:56] <degkorat> now I found that I need to change a register but how to open a .exe in ubuntu?
[09:56] <faryshta> degkorat, what is your problem?
[09:56] <Muphrid> faryshta: sorry it is apt-get download packagename
[09:57] <degkorat> I would like to use SKetchup but it crash
[09:57] <jayar> you dont open .exe in ubuntu
[09:57] <degkorat> So now it seems that I need to change a register
[09:57] <degkorat> in the windows simulation of wine
[09:57] <faryshta> degkorat, yay working
[09:57] <jayar> i think the one dude suggested he use wine
[09:57] <degkorat> but to do this I need to lounch regedit.exe
[09:58] <degkorat> how?
[09:58] <Ben64> type "regedit"
[09:58] <atlef> wine will open regedit.exe
[09:58] <degkorat> or there is another way ti use Sketchup?
[09:58] <jayar> goto start>cmd and type regedit.exe
[09:58] <degkorat> how?
[09:58] <jayar> what version of windows are you running on wine?
[09:58] <jayar> or is that a stupid question
[09:59] <degkorat> XP
[09:59] <Ben64> degkorat: read this http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21290
[09:59] <degkorat> OK wait don't run away... I will try it
[10:00] <jayar> theres no running in #ubuntu
[10:00] <faryshta> Muphrid, yay working
[10:00] <blaz_> lol :D
[10:00] <jayar> slippery when grep
[10:00] <blaz_> jayar: this is my routing table http://justpaste.it/1q6p
[10:01] <blaz_> if it gives you any ideas
[10:01] <faryshta> Muphrid, jayar uninstalled the driver and rebooting wish me luck.
[10:01] <blaz_> the routing table when both lan and wifi are connected
[10:01] <Muphrid> faryshta: Good luck
[10:03] <LeMike> hello. can someone help with symlinks please? I do "ln -s ./vendor/buddy ./htdocs/wp-content/themes" on a folder but the created link is useless and just looks like a file.
[10:04] <faryshta> Muphrid, jayar rebooted. everything looks the same. after removing xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[10:05] <Muphrid> faryshta: check what module is used in lspci -v
[10:05] <jayar> ^
[10:06] <degkorat> OK, now I can open it but I cannot save the image
[10:06] <faryshta> http://pastebin.com/n8dHtSau Muphrid jayar
[10:07] <degkorat> and how to install open office from Synaptic?
[10:07] <degkorat> later I will see why cannot save images, Temporary I will screen shot it
[10:07] <Muphrid> faryshta: Um, youre still using the same
[10:07] <faryshta> mup
[10:08] <Third3ye> Ey -- after installing ubuntu 64 and doing a dist-upgrade with stable nvidia drivers unity won't start
[10:08] <faryshta> Muphrid, damn. I uninstalled the package
[10:08] <GoogleGuy> I have an issue where rsyslog is not logging anything. What's the best way to debug that?
[10:08] <Third3ye> There's no window manager at all and when I log in there's nothing on the desktop except the wallpaper
[10:08] <faryshta> Muphrid, how can I remove the driver?
[10:08] <Third3ye> How do I debug this problem, where are the crash logs for unity?
[10:09] <faryshta> apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon didn't worked
[10:09] <Muphrid> faryshta: you can simply blacklist it though i dont know what you would use instead
[10:09] <goddard> how can i mount this disk? http://pastebin.com/P4409Vi6
[10:10] <faryshta> Muphrid, I think I won't use graphic card at all. I don't play video games and don't even have flash installed
[10:10] <Muphrid> faryshta: there is the vesa driver, although i dont know how to use it exactly
[10:12] <Muphrid> faryshta: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145821/how-do-i-force-x-to-use-the-vesa-driver
[10:13] <jacklk> Hi, is there any support channels for Openbox or can I get it here?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> !ask
[10:15] <Muphrid> faryshta: Um, i think youre better downgrading still
[10:15] <jacklk> Are there any support channels for Openbox?
[10:16] <Muphrid> faryshta: what if you use something like gnome fallback instead of unity?
[10:17] <faryshta> Muphrid, I am using xfce
[10:18] <Muphrid> faryshta: that should be a performance problem
[10:18] <Muphrid> shouldnt*
[10:21] <Emanon> So, I heard that 13.04 may integrate network bonding into the network manager, is this true?
[10:21] <Emanon> Or is there a better channel to ask this in?
[10:22] <ChaozHenchman> I think #ubuntu-offtopic would be better suited for this
[10:22] <ChaozHenchman> because it's not really a troubleshooting thing
[10:23] <Emanon> But this is on topic just a beta release is there a channel for upcoming ubuntu releases?
[10:23] <Muphrid> Emanon: #ubuntu-devel i think
[10:23] <Emanon> Thank you Muphrid.
[10:23] <ChaozHenchman> did not know about that channel
[10:23] <Emanon> It's ok it happens to me all the time. :-)
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Emanon  support for 13.04 in #ubuntu+1
[10:24] <Emanon> Thanks again.
[10:25] <bazhang> Emanon, its #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <Emanon> Thanks bazhang I'm in there now.
[10:28] <Third3ye> What's ubuntus gdm?
[10:28] <Third3ye> I'm trying to restart it because I think the nvidia drivers were to blame for my problems -- so I've now removed them and want to restart the login screen :P
[10:28] <Emanon> LightDM handles the login screen I think.
[10:29] <Third3ye> There we go..!
[10:29] <Third3ye> So now the question is: how the hell do I get nvidia to work?
[10:29] <jayar> ^ what Emanon said, and you can use CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to prompt
[10:29] <Third3ye> jayar: way ahead of you ^^
[10:30] <Third3ye> I'm not a complete n00b :P
[10:30]  * jayar was late on the answer tip
[10:30] <Third3ye> Had to use apt-get to remove the nvidia drivers
[10:30] <Emanon> I hope I'm not either but I didn't know about ctrl alt f1
[10:30] <Third3ye> But I still want the proprietary nvidia drivers :/ I only installed ubuntu to use steam
[10:30] <Third3ye> Emanon: it's how you get to the console :)
[10:30] <Emanon> And I didn't know that.
[10:31] <jayar> wait what? "only installed ubuntu to use steam" ???
[10:31] <Third3ye> I wanted to test steam for linux
[10:31] <jayar> ah!
[10:31] <Emanon> I'm used to alt+d2 for the quick version and ctrl+alt+t for the ful terminal.
[10:31] <Emanon> alt+f2 I meant.
[10:31] <Third3ye> So I installed the 32bit, it worked -- then I installed 64bit, and it didn't work with the nvidia drivers :/
[10:32] <Emanon> It works fine with mine...
[10:32] <Emanon> Or at least it works.
[10:32] <jayar> that would be a hardware issue
[10:32] <Emanon> I have multiple monitors so nothing really "works great"
[10:32] <onto1> Hi! I am trying to compile some SDL-dependent code but here's what I get: undefined reference to `SDL_MapRGB'
[10:32] <onto1> undefined reference to `SDL_Init'
[10:32] <onto1> under precise
[10:32] <onto1> it used to work fine in 10.04
[10:32] <onto1> :s
[10:33] <Third3ye> jayar: how so?
[10:34] <jayar> onto1: are you getting something like this? /tmp/ccoqWjtQ.o: In function `Slock(SDL_Surface*)':
[10:34] <_polto_> hi !
[10:34] <Third3ye> Ah...
[10:35] <jayar> Third3ye: video drivers might not like 64bit
[10:35] <onto1> jayar: No
[10:35] <jacklk> Hi, I have Openbox installed, and am using the tint2 taskbar. It has a square border and background around it and is meant to be curved, can someone help?
[10:35] <jacklk> http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5489/tint2001.png
[10:36] <Emanon> IDK the latest nvidia driver in jockey works in 64 bit 12.10 for me.
[10:36] <_polto_> is there a way to test ubuntu-phone on my Galaxy Note 2 ? I am running a chrooted Ubuntu for a year now. My web and mail servers are running on it. :) but I'd really like to ban Android completely from my phone. Is it already possible since it has been announced ?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> _polto_  #ubuntu-phone
[10:37] <Emanon> Oh MonkeyDustI love you I'm heading there now.
[10:37] <_polto_> thanks MonkeyDust
[10:37] <jayar> you include SDL.h with double quotes and not < > ?
[10:37] <jayar> ah crap wrong windo
[10:37] <onto1> here's my full error message http://pastebin.ca/2299786
[10:37] <jacklk> Does anyone here know about Openbox and/or tint2?
[10:38] <onto1> jayar: Yes
[10:38] <jayar> onto1: well then i dunno. im lookin at yer error msg... one sec
[10:39] <onto1> jayar: Should it be "SDL.h" or "SDL/SDL.h"?
[10:39] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: ask the real question
[10:39] <jacklk> Hi, I have Openbox installed, and am using the tint2 taskbar. It has a square border and background around it and is meant to be curved, can someone help?
[10:39] <jacklk> http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5489/tint2001.png
[10:40] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: what do you want it to be?
[10:40] <jacklk> Curved.
[10:40] <jacklk> But for some reason there are sharp rectangle edges.
[10:40] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: that screenshot shows it is curved
[10:41] <warfar> hello i have a problem where i cannot access my windows partion
[10:41] <warfar> i get the message the location is not a folder
[10:41] <Muphrid> jacklk: did you use tint2conf?
[10:41] <warfar> when i go to media/username it says i don't have enough permission
[10:41] <jacklk> Muphrid: No I don't know what to edit.
[10:42] <Muphrid> jacklk: tint2conf should be a GUI
[10:42] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: oh wait i think i understand now, you mean there is a black background behind the panel?
[10:42] <jacklk> Yes.
[10:42] <jacklk> Muphird: I know?
[10:42] <jayar> onto1: you have installed libsdl?
[10:43] <Cur10u8> HI @
[10:43] <onto1> jayar: Yes
[10:43] <Cur10u8> I use ubuntu inside windows.
[10:43] <onto1> jayar: libsdl1.2-dev
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> Cur10u8  that's called wubi
[10:44] <Cur10u8> now i want to setup new windows. so can i make a backup of Ubuntu.?
[10:44] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: in your tint2 conf did you enable transparency?
[10:44] <Cur10u8> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:44] <Cur10u8> help me pls...
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> Cur10u8  wubi is meant not a real installation, it's for testing purposes, better install ubuntu on its own partition
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[10:45] <warfar> lol i installed wubi on its own partion
[10:45] <Cur10u8> i'm not a expert.
[10:45] <jacklk> aeon-ltd: Okay I'll have a look.
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Cur10u8  no problem, that's why i'm explaining
[10:45] <Cur10u8> ok
[10:45] <warfar> but can anyone help me?
[10:46] <jayar> onto1: compiler looks for environment defined values so normall you should not need to define it.... so im not sure whats goin on here
[10:46] <Ben64> !details | warfar
[10:46] <warfar> hello i have a problem where i cannot access my windows partion
[10:46] <warfar> i get the message the location is not a folder
[10:46] <warfar> when i go to media/username it says i don't have enough permission
[10:46] <onto1> jayar: it says on some pages (http://askubuntu.com/questions/68922/cant-compile-program-that-uses-sdl-after-upgrade-to-11-10-undefined-reference) that it's the order of the options but I am using a makefile, could that be the issue?
[10:46] <Cur10u8> MonkeyDust help me.
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> Cur10u8  i have not enough experience with wubi, sorry, and i do not advice to use it
[10:48] <jayar> onto1: yea could be the order
[10:48] <serp_> 6wagow do you try to accesa it?
[10:48] <serp_> warfar: how do you try to access it?
[10:49] <warfar> clicking on the gateway button on the top of the file browser or going into media/(username)
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> Cur10u8  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_make_a_backup_of_my_Wubi_install.3F
[10:50] <serp_> oh i dunno then
[10:50] <onto1> jayar: but how do I modify the order in a makefile? (I can post it if you want)
[10:51] <warfar> thanks -.-
[10:52] <jacklk> aeon-ltd: I don't know how to make it transparent.
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: http://code.google.com/p/tint2/wiki/Configure#Background_and_border
[10:52] <jayar> onto1: edit
[10:53] <jayar> onto1: change. modify. alter.
[10:54] <Cur10u8> @MonkeyDust how can i install ubuntu on my pc without wubi?
[10:54] <warfar> Cur10u8, make a bootable usb or dvd
[10:54] <aeon-ltd> jacklk: if that doesn't work, you'll need this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tint2#Enabling_transparency - yes i am aware that is the arch wiki
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> !install | Cur10u8
[10:55] <warfar> is there anyway to fix my problem?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: I just joined. What is the issue please?
[10:56] <warfar> hello i have a problem where i cannot access my windows partion
[10:56] <warfar> i get the message the location is not a folder
[10:56] <jacklk> aeon-ltd: Ah, thanks!
[10:56] <warfar> when i go to media/username it says i don't have enough permission
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: how did you mount it?
[10:56] <warfar> its my windows disk
[10:56] <ania_> ActionParsnip, are u paid staff for your work?
[10:56] <warfar> *partion
[10:57] <onto1> jayar: here's what my Makefile looks like currently https://gist.github.com/4466550
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: yes I know, how did you mount it? What steos did you take
[10:57] <warfar> no idea what that means :P
[10:57] <lonnie> Does Ubuntu have root access to all installations of ubuntu?  See "we have root" here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Ania_: just a user whom is an ubuntu member.  Not paid :-)
[10:57] <warfar> but this happened after i made a new wubi disk
[10:57] <warfar> since my old one was too small
[10:58] <onto1> How do I append the CFLAGS to the end? :s
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: are you using wubi now?
[10:58] <warfar> yeah
[10:58] <Third3ye> So I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from nvidias web-site
[10:58] <ania_> ActionParsnip, your the best i have seen you pirst time like 3-4 years ago....and you are still helping thank you very much
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: if you run:   ln -s /host ~/Windows        it'll make life easier
[10:59] <warfar> done
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Ania_: no worries dude, thanks for the gratitude :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: ok, open your home folder in nautilus
[11:00] <warfar> whats nautilus
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Ania_: trying to catch Martin Pitt in launchpad
[11:00] <aeon-ltd> filemanager
[11:00] <warfar> oh ok
[11:00] <warfar> you can tell i'm new to linux
[11:00] <jayar> onto1: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2129391/append-to-gnu-make-variables-via-command-line
[11:01] <lonnie> Does Ubuntu have root access to all installations of ubuntu?  See "we have root" here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182
[11:01] <Third3ye> I've installed the kernel headers, I've directed the installer to /lib/modules/3.5.0-21-generic/build/include/linux (which contains kernel.h) but it won't recognise it...
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: the file manager by default is nautilus.  Everyone is new at some time
[11:01] <sw0rdfish_> hi, can apt-get remove.... uninstall apps I manually installed using dpkg -i ?
[11:01] <warfar> oh i see
[11:01] <warfar> so kinda like explorer
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Sw0rdfish_: yes,
[11:02] <sw0rdfish_> ActionParsnip: oh wow, that is good news :D
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Sw0rdfish: it still adds the package to the database
[11:02] <warfar> ActionParsnip, my wubi is on a seperate partion than windows
[11:02] <lonnie> Does  Canonical have root access to all installations of ubuntu?  Find "we have root" here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182
[11:03] <El-E-Va-Tion> can I get some help with kppp?  the window disappears after I connect and the options aren't fixing it
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: do you see your files in the Windows folder in your home ?
[11:03] <warfar> nope
[11:03] <warfar> my linux is on K: and windows is on c:
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: when did you last chkdsk your windows partition?
[11:03] <lonnie> anyone?
[11:03] <aeon-ltd> lonnie: if you're afraid, don't go on the internet.
[11:04] <warfar> don't know what that means
[11:04] <warfar> :P
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: and, if you installed wubi on a different partition to Windows, why not do a proper install?
[11:04] <warfar> my flashdrive won't work
[11:04] <lonnie> I'm asking a question. and that's not an answer.
[11:04] <lonnie> Does  Canonical have root access to all installations of ubuntu?  Find "we have root" here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182
[11:04] <warfar> i tried fat32 and nfts
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> !root | lonnie start here
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: its a Windows term, checks the data structure is sound. Scandisk mean anything tobyiu?
[11:05] <aeon-ltd> lonnie: in a way, you can give them control. but no if you do not willingly accept (or if your machine accepts) then they don't have control
[11:05] <lonnie> What does he mean by "we have root" then?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Lonnie: no, there is no root pass and the account is disabled. Nobody has root access
[11:05] <warfar> oh
[11:05] <warfar> i don't  know
[11:05] <Emanon> !offtopic | lonnie
[11:06] <jayar> lol
[11:06] <warfar> but i was able to access the partion before i made a new disk drive that had more space
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Warfar: I suggest you unmount the NTFS, boot to Windows and run a scandisk
[11:07] <wdp> lonnie, i don't think it's meant like that; i.e. i don't think they really have root access. by default ubuntu has no root password set. However, they _might_ have or lemme rephrase "one" might use sudo or a special user account with root permissions. You should check your sudo rules. Anyway: Read the "we have root" part with the following sentence in that article.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Lonnie: the Amazon suggestion thing is anonymous.  You can remove the Amazon thing easily
[11:07] <warfar> alright
[11:08] <wdp> lonnie, i think it's meant like that: you're installing ubuntu - that means you're trusting them in some way - there might be all sorts of exploits, and code in applications which originate from ubuntu developers.
[11:08] <wdp> not saying that is the case, just saying that is possible. so in a way... they have root.
[11:09] <jayar> wdp: you can say that for any distro of opensource OS
[11:09] <lonnie> I was concerned that he means, he can see all your files if he wants too, but choses not to and you should continue to trust him. He said "we have root"
[11:09] <wdp> jayar, correct.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Yay I'm the top dog in launchpad karma.
[11:09] <aeon-ltd> derailing but; if you are afraid can you truly trust anyone. can you trust microsoft just because you pay for a license?
[11:09] <lonnie> If there is not root, then why would he say "we have root"  ?
[11:09] <wdp> lonnie, this is correct -> he could, if he adds that to some application.
[11:09] <Ben64> lonnie: a quick google search answers your question
[11:09] <wdp> lonnie, just like in every other distribution.
[11:09] <bazhang> lonnie, this is for ubuntu support. lets move on please
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Lonnie: no, that isn't a feature
[11:10] <jayar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <lonnie> It is a fair concern have have. I appreciate the answers.
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> lonnie  by now you should have understood that you cannot have root access
[11:10]  * wdp wonders if such questions are really not part of support-questions. Actually there's a user who needs support because he/she is wondering about an official statement on some page regarding the security of ubuntu.
[11:11] <jayar> agrees^
[11:11] <wdp> or even regarding privacy.
[11:11] <bazhang> wdp, after ten answers its way past support
[11:11] <lonnie> strange thing for him to say, being that there is not root access
[11:11] <jayar> but its getting into a debate,
[11:11] <wdp> right, i see.
[11:11] <bazhang> lonnie, thats enough. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[11:11] <lonnie> ok
[11:12] <IdleOne> lonnie: That one sentence taken out of context does seem strange. it was meant to be cheaky. Now let's move on please.
[11:12] <lonnie> I just want all of you to know. "I have root" before I go.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Funny how the Amazon thing is only in Unity/Gnome and not in the other flavours ;)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Lonnie: via sudo, yes
[11:12] <lonnie> haha
[11:13] <jayar> lol
[11:13] <El-E-Va-Tion> can I get some help with kppp?  the window disappears after I connect and the options aren't fixing it
[11:14] <jayar> El-E-Va-Tion: i had a problem with that and dual monitors, do you have dual monitors?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> El-e-va-tion: try running it from konsole
[11:15] <El-E-Va-Tion> nope, just one monitor on a laptop
[11:15] <El-E-Va-Tion> I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[11:16] <El-E-Va-Tion> I click connect and you're supposed to get a globe in your taskbar but there's nothing
[11:16] <El-E-Va-Tion> or at least a window pop up or something, nothing comes up but I'm connected
[11:16] <troop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S7EbyY53FrA#t=240s what a good font render, but how?
[11:16] <troop> please watch for few seconds
[11:16] <aeon-ltd> no
[11:18] <El-E-Va-Tion> I'll try the console, one sec
[11:19] <jayar> troop: #php
[11:19] <codecowboy> hi. anyone know why i can to do an openssl connect from the command line in an ubuntu vm except when I have a vpn connection open (on the VM)? the target is internet accessible.
[11:19] <troop> jayar what?
[11:19] <El-E-Va-Tion> if I run it from the console then all my configuration is gone
[11:19] <bekks> codecowboy: I dont see any special there.
[11:20] <Third3ye> Getting the nvidia installer to recognise the kernel-source is a pain...
[11:20] <Third3ye> I've now installed the headers, linux-source... and yet nothing
[11:20] <jayar> troop: what does your post have to do with #ubuntu?
[11:20] <codecowboy> bekks huh?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: how so, the packages manage it for you
[11:21] <troop> jayar if you read my post, i'm asking about font rendering. not php, video tells php but i'm interesting with font rendering especially in web browser.
[11:21] <jayar> again... what does that have to do with #ubuntu?
[11:22] <faryshta> Muphrid, you convinced me. can you give me the downgrade link again?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> troop: see #firefox for browser rendering guidance
[11:22] <Muphrid> faryshta: downgrading of xorg?
[11:22] <Third3ye> I know -- it's supposed to be in /lib/modules/3.5.0-21-generic/build/include/linux -- the nvidia installer finds the directory but says it can't find kernel.h... which obviously is in the folder
[11:23] <Third3ye> Even when specifying where it is it claims it's not there
[11:23] <Ben64> Third3ye: why are you installing it manually? you should use the package manager
[11:23] <troop> isnt it related with ubuntu ? just firefox?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> ! Info linux-image-generic
[11:23] <Third3ye> Because that version doesn't work -- unity won't start and glxinfo says it can't find the screen
[11:23] <Third3ye> I'm using 64bit btw, and defeat is not an option
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[11:24] <Third3ye> Already installed...
[11:24] <Third3ye> and the headers...
[11:24] <faryshta> Muphrid, yes
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: well, yeah it's your kernel.
[11:24] <jayar> troop: font rendering on websites has nothing to do with an operating system... unless you have like accessibility stuff enabled that makes fonts bigger so, no.
[11:24] <codecowboy> hi. anyone know why i can to do an openssl connect from the command line in an ubuntu vm except when I have a vpn connection open (on the VM)? the target is internet accessible.
[11:24] <Muphrid> faryshta: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[11:25] <troop> jayar but in this video all fonts like vector based, even in gedit. anyway  i think its utopic i never seen before
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-headers-generic dkms
[11:26] <Ben64> Third3ye: installing it manually could cause more problems
[11:27] <El-E-Va-Tion> ActionParsnip:  I ran kppp from the console and it does the same thing - no connect window or icon on the taskbar
[11:27] <Third3ye> Ben64: What else can I say but "meh"...
[11:27] <Third3ye> I installed Linux specifically to try out steam for linux...
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> El-e-va-tion: is there anything output in konsole?
[11:27] <Third3ye> I want a 64bit OS, I want the nvidia drivers... nao! :P
[11:28] <Third3ye> I'll try to reinstall using the official package... maybe even using an older kernel
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: tried the xorg updates PPA (not the edgers)
[11:28] <Third3ye> the ubuntu package I mean
[11:28] <El-E-Va-Tion> ActionParsnip:  Yep, it says "sni-qt/2773" WARN  void StaticNoitfierItemFactory::connectToSnw()
[11:28] <El-E-Va-Tion> Invalid interface to SNW_SERVICE
[11:28] <Third3ye> Don't think I have edge turned on...
[11:29] <jayar> troop: you can change the font of gedit if thats what your asking
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> El-e-va-tion: ok, find out what that means online
[11:29] <Igramul> Hi, how can I disable the voice output (might be in the login menu)?
[11:29] <Igramul> I am not aware that I'd enabled it.
[11:30] <Igramul> but its "welcome to ..." almost made me deaf
[11:30] <El-E-Va-Tion> ActionParsnip:  only result is something in Italian for VLC, I don't think it's related
[11:31] <ikillcypher> Hi guys
[11:31] <Ben64> Third3ye: you should use the 310 beta in the ubuntu repos
[11:31] <Wintus> Hi, is there anyone who could help me with my Thinkpads trackpoint problem?
[11:31] <Ben64> Third3ye: works great with steam
[11:31] <ikillcypher> Im issues with my Ubuntu
[11:31] <ikillcypher> :(
[11:31] <ikillcypher> im actually a newbie
[11:31] <Third3ye> Ben64: is it the one marked "unstable"?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> ikillcypher  let's hear it
[11:31] <Ben64> Third3ye: possibly
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:32] <ikillcypher> I cant install my ati card here
[11:32] <Ben64> Third3ye, ActionParsnip: that version isn't as good
[11:32] <Igramul> I installed mythbuntu-desktop, btw.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: which ati chip and which release
[11:33] <Third3ye> Alright... we'll try both :P first; the "experimental" version...
[11:33] <Ben64> Third3ye: i'm just saying, because i play games on steam daily
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: 304 works well here
[11:33] <Ben64> steam even tells you to install 310
[11:33] <ikillcypher> ATI 3400
[11:33] <ikillcypher> no idea about release
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: yeah it also advises the bleeding edge xorg, pretty weird if you ask me
[11:34] <Third3ye> hmm... I did some grub configuring to... added "nomodes"
[11:34] <jayar> ikillcypher: have you checked the "additional drivers"
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[11:34] <Third3ye> Would that be detrimental or should I just leave it?
[11:34] <Ben64> nvidia has been putting through a bunch of updates for linux because of steam
[11:34] <ikillcypher> and 2) issue
[11:34] <Third3ye> Which is awesome ^_~
[11:34] <ikillcypher> ikillcypher@ikillcypher:~$ su
[11:34] <ikillcypher> Password:
[11:34] <Ben64> 304 -> 310 almost doubled my framerate in TF2
[11:35] <ikillcypher> su: Authentication failure
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: use    sudo -I
[11:35] <Third3ye> ikillcypher: don't use su... use sudo
[11:35] <Igramul> ikillcypher: use sudo
[11:35] <ikillcypher> guys
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: there is no root pass and the account is disabled
[11:35] <ikillcypher> quantal
[11:35] <Third3ye> or sudo bash if you don't want to reenter the password everytime you're entering a command
[11:35] <Igramul> ikillcypher: usually, Ubutnu has no root password set
[11:35] <ikillcypher> <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc  >>> quantal
[11:35] <jayar> yea youre not a super user... your making the super user DO stuff for you
[11:35] <El-E-Va-Tion> can anybody help me with kppp window disappearing in 12.10?
[11:36] <ikillcypher> why am I not a superuser ?
[11:36] <Ben64> security
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: the xorg version in Quantal hates 2xxx 3xxx snd 4xxx ati gpus. There is a fix
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: you get admin access via sudo, logging into gui session as root is mot wise
[11:37]  * ikillcypher is new so he does not understand this
[11:37] <ikillcypher> ok so how do I fix up my first issue
[11:37] <ikillcypher> getting ati working on Ubuntu
[11:37] <Third3ye> Ha! it worked, Ben64 ^^
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/ashwinraon_1?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ashwinraon.com%2F2012%2F10%2Famd-legacy-driver-solution-for-ubuntu-12-10%2F&dm_redirected=true
[11:37] <Ben64> Third3ye: :)
[11:38] <ewan_> hi
[11:39] <Wintus> I have a problem with my new Thinkpad L430. It has both touchpad and trackpoint. When I installed 12.10 it only finds the touchpad. I installed the tp-trackpoint-elantech package and the trackpoint started working. But now I want the touchpad disabled and I can't seem to do it without disabling the trackpoint. Xinput recognizes only one pointer at a time, though there is supposed to be two of them. :l
[11:39] <ikillcypher> Error: need a repository as argument
[11:39] <ikillcypher> o.O
[11:40] <DrCode> ok, dd worked, it was target disk size, thankyou
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: each command starts with the word sudo, so you can now break it up as it should be, the author missed the semicolon between
[11:42] <ikillcypher> not working
[11:42] <Third3ye> Now we can only hope they port the gamebryo, unreal and crysis engines :D
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Ikillcypher: how can I possibly reply to thst?
[11:43] <ewan_> i'm about to file a bug against nexus 7 installer functionality running on 12.04. Before I do, is anyone here involved in that area, or can offer guidance on making that report as useful as possible?
[11:43] <ikillcypher> hold on let me get a hold of it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: unreal is ported. What do you think runs urban terror ;)
[11:43] <Third3ye> Ah shiiit :P ofc
[11:43] <Third3ye> Gamebryo then
[11:44] <Third3ye> Then we could play Fallout and Skyrim on Linux ^_~
[11:44] <Third3ye> without emulation, I mean
[11:44] <Third3ye> Now! on to the next task...!
[11:44] <Third3ye> How do I get HDMI sound to work?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: which emulator runs syrim?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> Third3ye  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[11:45] <Third3ye> Sorry, MonkeyDust :P ActionParsnip: I'd asume a derivative of wine... like cedegas new venture, whatever it's called again...
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: go look up what Wine is an acronym for ;-)
[11:46] <faryshta> Muphrid, after install I have to reboot right?
[11:46] <Muphrid> faryshta: yes
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: not an emulator
[11:46] <vect0r> Quick question, I've got a Radeon 7970. I've installed the latest beta drives - running Ubuntu 11.10. Going into All Settings -> Details -> Graphics, it is showing Driver - VESA: TAHITI
[11:46] <Third3ye> lol - ofc, but nvm semantics :P
[11:46] <vect0r> shouldn't it be showing something else?
[11:47] <cub> hello
[11:47] <faryshta> Muphrid, rebooting, wish me luck
[11:47] <Muphrid> GL
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: calling something what it isn't is not semantics,  its being incorrect :-)
[11:49] <Third3ye> Alright, alright :P So HDMI sound doesn't seem to work... it shows up HDA Intel but not Nvidia... I'm guessing it is Intel HDA that's the media interface, but when testing audio via the sound configuration there is no sound whatsoever...
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: if you run the sound app in dash, do you see the hdmi as an option for output?
[11:50] <Third3ye> Yes -- it's what I tried to test sound with (the whole left-right thing) but it didn't make a sound
[11:51] <jacklk> Has the additonal drivers feature from Ubuntu been removed?
[11:51] <jacklk> I need to install my crappy AMD Radeon drivers.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: if you run alsamixer   are all levels unmuted and maxed. If you press F6, is the hdmi selected?
[11:52] <jrib> jacklk: no it was moved to a tap in software sources
[11:52] <jrib> s/tap/tab
[11:52] <jacklk> jrib: SO what can I do?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: which ati and which release?
[11:52] <jacklk> I have an ATI Radeon HD6290
[11:52] <jrib> jacklk: use it?
[11:52] <jacklk> that's all the know
[11:52] <Third3ye> Yepp, everything is unmuted ActionParsnip
[11:52] <jacklk> jrib: What's a "tap in sources"?
[11:52] <jrib> jacklk: "tab" not "tap"
[11:53] <jacklk> Sources?
[11:53] <jrib> jacklk: software sources
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[11:53] <jacklk> WHere do I find them?
[11:53] <jrib> jacklk: system settings or from the menu in software center
[11:53] <jacklk> quantal ActionParsnip
[11:53] <jacklk> ok jrib
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle; sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:55] <faryshta> Muphrid, just came back to say thanks, looks like the computer is not heating now
[11:56] <Muphrid> faryshta: alright, glad it is working
[11:56] <jacklk> ActionParsnip OKay
[11:59] <Third3ye> here's my alsainfo.sh output -> http://goo.gl/tvzrl
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: copied from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:59] <mar> I have a problem in my laptob hp proBook in ubuntu 10.04 the sound come from both speaker and headphones
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Mar: lucid has about 4 months support,  is it really worth it? Why not install Precise and get support til April 2017
[12:01] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: your logic is unassailable, Captain ...
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Cfhowltt: aye ya scurvvy seadawg
[12:03] <gartral> hello all, I'm looking for a way to set up automatic cd ripping from a headless machine, just open tray, drop in disk, close tray and a few minutes later it's done.. any way to do this? Please kep in mind that this is a headless server and doesn't have a graphical front-end
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: you could have a script to run after cd is inserted, you can ssh in to run it
[12:05] <mar> what you mean there is no answer now :'(
[12:05] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I have that.. but what I want to do is automate it.. it's more for my father who.. well.. is used to a Wii..
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Mar: by the time you setup the OS, it will cease to be supported.
[12:06] <Tashtego> hi. i am trying to install latest catalyst drivers under ubuntu. and i get an error "previous install of the fglrx driver has been detected".... ? but dpkg -l | grep fglrx <- no hits
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Mar: why such an ancient release?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html
[12:07] <gartral> Tashtego: try building the package through the CCC install
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Mar: why did you not install the latest LTS?
[12:07] <Tashtego> ? how .. what is ccc install
[12:08] <poq> Hi guys. Can anybode tell me is the Ultimate Boot CD legal and free for use?
[12:08] <gartral> Tashtego: that's the Catalyst Control Center installer .run you got from AMD.
[12:08] <mar> how you mean reinstall ubuntu again ???
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> poq  you mean Ultimate Edition?
[12:08] <Tashtego> gartral: how can i build the package?
[12:09] <gartral> ActionParsnip: Perfect! I had forgotten about abcde
[12:09] <gartral> Tashtego: run the .run by double clicking it, it'
[12:09] <cfhowlett> poq: don't know as it's not supported on this channel.  suggest you contact them direct ...
[12:09] <gartral> Tashtego: run the .run by double clicking it, it's an option in the early step
[12:10] <poq> MonkeyDust: I can't see any editions. Here is http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ what I am talking about
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> poq  download it and try it
[12:11] <Tashtego> gartral: there were errrors during package generation :(
[12:11] <jacklk> Hi, when launching a game I get this error: http://pastebin.com/5QzAsE5M
[12:11] <jacklk> Can anyone help?
[12:11] <Tashtego> gartral: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 294: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: debclean: not found
[12:11] <Tashtego> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 295: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-buildpackage: not found
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Mar: yes, or upgrade directly to Precise.
[12:12] <gartral> Tashtego: ahh.. apt-get install build-essential
[12:12] <atlef> jacklk, do you have your gfx card driver installed
[12:12] <jacklk> atlef: idk
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Mar: again,  why such an ancient release with so little support left in it?
[12:12] <jacklk> I done what ActionParsnip said, I don't think I have the real drvier
[12:12] <jacklk> *driver
[12:13] <Third3ye> So now there's no sound whatsoever... not from internal speakers, not from hdmi either...
[12:13] <wargar2> hey is it logical to set my swapspace to my win7 install?
[12:13] <k1l_> wargar2: what?
[12:13] <wargar2> im installing Ubuntu and i should set a swap  space
[12:13] <mar> what did you mean i didn't get what you said
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Wargar2: you could use a swap file stored in NTFS (maybe, never done it). Swap is usually its own partition
[12:14] <wargar2> would it effect windows
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Mar: why did you install lucid (ubuntu 10.04) when it has only 4 months support left?
[12:14] <Third3ye> So how do I failcheck alsa sound or kernel audio drivers anyways?
[12:15] <atlef> !sound | Third3ye
[12:15] <k1l_> wargar2: make a seperate partition for swap. that is the easiest
[12:15] <Tashtego> gartral: make: dh: Command not found
[12:15] <Tashtego> make: *** [build-arch] Error 127
[12:15] <Tashtego> dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
[12:15] <Tashtego> [Error] Generate Package - error generating package : Ubuntu/precise
[12:15] <mar> Oops may be this the problem of our support team they already gave my this Laptob with this version !!!
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Wargar2: no, but i'd recommend using its own partition.  If you tell the installer to use the NTFS as swao, it will wipe it and use the whole partition
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Mar: no, lucid is nearly dead
[12:16] <troop> can i tune fontconfig on live cd ?
[12:16] <wargar2> how do ii add a partion in setup
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Troop: sure, you can do anything in liveCD except reboot
[12:16] <gartral> Tashtego: I'm not being mean, and to prove the point I'll give you one last hint, but from here out you should do your own research if things blow up.. apt-get install debhelper
[12:17] <troop> ActionParsnip thanks
[12:17] <jacklk> http://pastebin.com/5QzAsE5M
[12:17] <jacklk> Please help
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Mar: you can upgrade to Precise from Lucid, both are LTS so it is supported
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> !info teeworlds
[12:18] <Tashtego> :(
[12:18] <wargar2> how do i add a partion on Ubuntu setup
[12:18] <mar> ActionParsnip: many thanks but how can i do that :)
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: is there a config file storing the resolution to use?
[12:19] <jacklk> I think so
[12:19] <jacklk> I will have a search
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | mar
[12:19] <atlef> wargar2, you need to shrink windows partition and create free space for ubuntu to be installed
[12:19] <gartral> Tashtego: It's not you... I just hold a very deep grudge against AMD..
[12:19] <atlef> !install | wargar2
[12:19] <wargar2> aww dang i have to go into win again
[12:20] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: I've found it
[12:20] <jacklk> What shall I set the resolution to?
[12:20] <wargar2> how much is reccomended?
[12:20] <jacklk> This monitor is like 1440 x 900
[12:20] <mar> may thanks ActionParsnip and ubottu
[12:20] <wargar2> (swap size)
[12:20] <Tashtego> gartral: ... installed deb-helper. even now it crashes. well its quite the latest ubuntu version and it doesnt support my vga card.... thats ... what about "long time support" ;(
[12:20] <wargar2> i have 8gb ram
[12:21] <atlef> same as ram
[12:21] <Tashtego> gartral:  thx anyways
[12:21] <gartral> Tashtego: wait
[12:21] <gartral> Tashtego: what card?
[12:21] <Tashtego> gartral: Radeon HD 7850 Royal King
[12:21] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: I've changed it, now I get this: http://pastebin.com/eSquXvuH
[12:22] <wargar2> nice card
[12:22] <gartral> Tashtego: *sigh* hang on..
[12:22] <Tashtego> gartral: <3 !
[12:22] <wargar2> lol
[12:24] <gartral> Tashtego: 35 seconds of googling reveals this.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/ubuntu-12-10-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-not-working/210565#210565 follow it up to the Optional part..
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: tried renaming the config folder for the game?
[12:25] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: What to?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: something different
[12:25] <jacklk> Why?
[12:26] <gartral> Tashtego: in the future, invest in Nvidia.
[12:26] <jacklk> that would just mess it up even more if it can't find the files?
[12:26] <troop> hello again. now im on live cd. where is fontconfig file?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: the app will see no config and make a vanilla folder for you. What do you think happened when you first installed and ran it?
[12:27] <jacklk> oka
[12:28] <jacklk> Shall I delete the current folder?
[12:28] <jacklk> Or move it somewhereit cannot find?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: no, rename, like I said and explained
[12:28] <jacklk> uhm
[12:28] <jacklk> ok
[12:29] <jacklk> Well
[12:29] <jacklk> it still fails
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: jesus, if its too hard just add the wird 'old' to the end
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: did a new folder get generated?
[12:29] <jacklk> It's not hard I never said it was
[12:29] <jacklk> Yes
[12:29] <jacklk> another folder did get generated
[12:30] <jacklk> It looks like a problem with my graphics driver, after I installed it I keep getting these error messages
[12:30] <jacklk> Maybe I should just sudo rm -r /?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: thats how configs work. Very handy. Now you know its not the config at fault. You can delete the new config and rename back the old if you want
[12:30] <n3mu5> lol
[12:31] <alcaprawn> didnt expect a native version of steam for nix *_*
[12:31] <alcaprawn> sweeet
[12:32] <bhavesh> My Unity on Ubuntu 12.04.1 started working incredibly faster when I did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel", anyone has any idea why?
[12:32] <jacklk> lol ^
[12:32] <Third3ye> ok... so I've found a solution, but the solution doesn't work -- since it relies upon a special snapshot of alsa-driver. It's a problem with hp dvx laptops (I have hp dv5). I found it on the help pages for ubuntu, but he source is a bit old (2009) and only works on a Ubuntu 9.04...
[12:33] <jacklk> bhavesh: Maybe because you installed your graphics driver?
[12:33] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[12:33] <jacklk> Should I install a different graphics driver?
[12:33] <alcaprawn> jacklk:
[12:33] <gartral> Third3ye: well.. it's an ugly kludge, but can you live with a usb sound card?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: do other games run?
[12:33] <alcaprawn> do u have ati or nvidia
[12:33] <jacklk> I don't know
[12:33] <jacklk> I don't play games
[12:33] <Third3ye> gartral: not really :P cause I want HDMI to work...
[12:33] <jacklk> I only play Teeworlds ;p
[12:34] <alcaprawn> jacklk: , what gpu do u have?
[12:34] <jacklk> alcaprawn: ATI Radeon HD6290
[12:34] <jacklk> It's integrated into this crappy AMD CPU
[12:34] <alcaprawn> you should try latest beta drivers
[12:34] <alcaprawn> from ati's site
[12:34] <jacklk> mh
[12:34] <alcaprawn> im using them with a 6870 running good enough for now
[12:34] <jacklk> Okay I'll try
[12:34] <bhavesh> jacklk, I already had it installed..
[12:34] <alcaprawn> look at this post.
[12:35] <jacklk> bhavesh: "My Unity on Ubuntu 12.04.1 started working incredibly faster  when I did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: isn't teeworlds a game?
[12:35] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: "12:33 < jacklk> I only play Teeworlds ;p
[12:35] <jacklk> "
[12:35] <Third3ye> It's kind of perplexing... as internal speakers worked on the 32bit version of ubuntu
[12:35] <jacklk> ok
[12:35] <jacklk> bhavesh: nvm
[12:35] <jacklk> lol
[12:35] <bhavesh> lol
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: and you didn't think to maybe try different games....
[12:35] <jacklk> Like what games?
[12:36] <Robbilie> i really want ubu for phones to be released :(
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: tuxcart, frozen bubble, ntry searching software centre
[12:36] <jacklk> alcaprawn: What psot?
[12:36] <bhavesh> Robbilie, Ofcourse it will be released
[12:36] <jacklk> Robbilie: It will probably crash your phone
[12:37] <k1l_> !phone | Robbilie bhavesh jacklk
[12:37] <jacklk> AMD's servers are so slow it takes like 1 hour to download a graphics driver..
[12:37] <sigurding> can anyone tell me how to install a plain server with a core unity desktop? I mean without the whole open office stuff etc
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Robbilie: imho, its too late and will die off soon
[12:37] <Robbilie> ActionParsnip, i dont think so ;)
[12:38] <Robbilie> it will have great performance over other oss'
[12:38] <cfhowlett> sigurding: purpose of the server?
[12:38] <Robbilie> bhavesh, i guess it will be :D jacklk i have an intel powered phone muhahahan :D
[12:38] <DrCode> hi all
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Robbilie: considering iphone and android are doing so well, there is little room for a new entry especially at this time
[12:39] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: What desktop envrioment do you use?
[12:39] <DrCode> If I have low video card , can I make gnome run faster?
[12:39] <DrCode> I want to use ubuntu
[12:39] <sigurding> cfhowlett: it shall be a local testing machine with postgres and mongo and I do want to have the admin uis installed on it, because of that I would like to have a desktop
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: I don't,  I only use fluxbox these days
[12:39] <sigurding> cfhowlett: it is installed in VM
[12:39] <sigurding> +a
[12:39] <DrCode> no
[12:39] <DrCode> its ati card,
[12:39] <Robbilie> ActionParsnip, i guess like in desktop environments, they dont want to be the biggest but are fine with beeing beside the biggest
[12:39] <jacklk> DrCode: only if you have the latest drivers
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Drcode: try lxde, it uses a lot fewer resources
[12:39] <cfhowlett> DrCode: if you suspect your hardware is strangling you, consider a different desktop environment: lxde or xfce are both optimized for older, low spec machines
[12:40] <DrCode> no
[12:40] <cfhowlett> sigurding: looking for the right configuration tutorial
[12:40] <Robbilie> DrCode, try archlinux it only takes up about 200mb ram :D
[12:40] <Robbilie> well less
[12:40] <Robbilie> actually
[12:40] <DrCode> its ari SB600
[12:40] <Robbilie> runs smoothon my phone
[12:40] <DrCode> now propl driver
[12:40] <k1l_> Robbilie: stop that offtopic here please
[12:40] <DrCode> ati SB600
[12:41] <Robbilie> k1l_, just adding smthng to what somebody else wrote ;)
[12:41] <Robbilie> k1l_, atm im just here for news bout ubu phone os
[12:41] <sigurding> if have seen --without-recommendations or so, but I did not get to work unity at all, because no applications were accessable
[12:41] <DrCode> ATI RS690 , it say vga in lspci , is there driver?
[12:41] <k1l_> Robbilie: i pointed you to the ubuntu-phone channel. and if you want to support archlinux they got their support servers.
[12:41] <jacklk> Robbilie: you installed Arch Linux?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Robbilie: tried tinycore :) 12mb iso
[12:41] <Robbilie> k1l_, dont want to support them but you must admit that it runs smoother on low end hardware...? thanks for the channel, didnt read that
[12:42] <jacklk> ActionParsnip: TinyCore is useless
[12:42] <cfhowlett> sigurding: I THINK this is it.  if not look for something similar ... or ask in #ubuntu-server  http://www.docstoc.com/docs/22211437/How-to-configure-VMWare-WorkstationServer-install-Ubuntu
[12:42] <Robbilie> jacklk, ActionParsnip why useless? arcvh is fine
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Jacklk: obviously never used a thin client
[12:42] <k1l_> Robbilie: im not gonna admit anything here besides ubuntu support. thats what the channel is for. thanks for sticking to the guidlines
[12:42] <Robbilie> ActionParsnip, just ran it because ubu didnt chroot well
[12:43] <Azmuth> anyone familiar with winetricks ?
[12:43] <sigurding> cfhowlett: I have the server already running under vmware, but I need to know how to install unity-desktop without this whole soft clash
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Robbilie: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Robbilie: is how I chroot :)
[12:43] <jacklk> Who was "p5DDF9DA9.dip.t-dialin.net"?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> sigurding: OK.  Over my head.  sorry.
[12:43] <Azmuth> ok lol
[12:43] <Emanon> Azmuth: Not directly but PlayOnLinux uses it to some positive ends.
[12:44] <Emanon> If I'm not mistaken that is.
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !wine|azmuth
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: try in #winehq as well
[12:44] <Azmuth> i tried but no one answered
[12:44] <Emanon> jacklk: ~Robbilie@p5DDF9DA9.dip.t-dialin.net
[12:45] <Emanon> He was kicking Robbilie in such a way that changing his nick wouldn't let him back in.
[12:45] <Azmuth> i installed directx with winetricks and when i run gta sa it show error "required directx 9.0" ?
[12:45] <sigurding> cfhowlett: ok
[12:45] <Azmuth> any idea
[12:45] <Tashtego> gartral: "Download from this direct-link:".... there are no more files to download. i think i am giving up. downloading from several sites, free packages around all the net and thousands of packages... i dont even know if i can trust 'em. that should not be the way a simple vga driver is installed... :(
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: wine is an abstraction for directx, you cannot install directx in wine
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: did you check the apodb for x
[12:46] <Robbilie_> man
[12:46] <Azmuth> yes i did
[12:46] <Robbilie_> stop that i didnt do anything
[12:46] <Azmuth> and it work!
[12:46] <Azmuth> 9.0
[12:46] <Andyland> Plus with Steam for linux coming along in a short while (6-18 months) you won't have to W(h)ine anymore :D
[12:47] <Emanon> That is unless he proxies...
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: cool, did you scroll down on the psge, is there a how to guide?
[12:47] <Azmuth> i installed it with winetricks...
[12:47] <Emanon> Azmuth: If you like I could walk you through installing DX properly via PlayOnLinux.
[12:47] <Emanon> Since I am somewhat more familiar with that.
[12:48] <ikonia> playonlinux is no better than wine
[12:48] <ikonia> if you want to play a windows game....use windows.
[12:48] <Azmuth> Emanon: do playonlinux support samp injection
[12:48] <Emanon> No it's not but it's easier to use ikonia.
[12:48] <Emanon> I'm not sure Azmuth give me a minute.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: on the appdb there are how to guides
[12:48] <Tashtego> restarting
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: try reading the whole page
[12:49] <failor> i heard there is native steam for linux already, is there cs:s on linux without wine?
[12:49] <_kud> Hello
[12:49] <ikonia> failor: check out the steam website for what's available o nlinux
[12:49] <ikonia> on
[12:49] <_kud> Since I've upgraded my ubuntu and some other stuffs, I can't use anymore my keyboard in my cli
[12:49] <_kud> Any idea?
[12:49] <Azmuth> ActionParsnip: can you give me link ?
[12:49] <_kud> I'm on ubuntu server, no Xorg
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23695
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> failor  http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
[12:50] <_kud> it seems not to be a tmux trouble because when I disable it, it still doesn't work correctly
[12:50] <failor> MonkeyDust, ikonia thx
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> _kud: is the system ca laptop?
[12:50] <Azmuth> i have installed it!
[12:50] <_kud> what?
[12:50] <_kud> No, i'm on desktop
[12:50] <arshavin> failor: yes steam has native linux client,I have it installed took 121 mb of downloading and there only a handfull games available
[12:50] <Emanon> As in Samp SQL Injection for pentesting Azmuth?
[12:50] <_kud> it worked previously
[12:51] <Azmuth> no
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: read ALL the page
[12:51] <Azmuth> it inject a dll
[12:51] <failor> arshavin, i already bought uplink and defcon lol
[12:51] <Emanon> So San Andreas Multiplayer?
[12:51] <failor> havn't tried it yet though
[12:51] <Azmuth> yes
[12:51] <arshavin> failor: good for you
[12:51] <_kud> I'm on 3.2.0-35-generic
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> _kud: if you pull the keyboard out, wait a while rhen reinsert, does it work?
[12:52] <Emanon> Alright I've played EverQuest on with PlayOnLinux so I think it can handle SA at least in theory.
[12:52] <_kud> When I connect via root, I have no trouble, ActionParsnip
[12:52] <_kud> :/
[12:52] <_kud> it seems to be my profile but dunno why
[12:52] <_kud> I use zsh
[12:53] <_kud> I will try with root + zsh
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> _kud: if you boot an older kernel,  is it ok
[12:53] <Emanon> In theory POL can do anything wine with winetricks can do since it's just a gui for them. In practice you still have to know what your doing if to a lesser degree than when using wine without it.
[12:53] <_kud> yes, it's zsh.
[12:53] <Third3ye> xD
[12:53] <Azmuth> Emanon: playonlinux use wine ?
[12:53] <_kud> I try with a fresh profile, with bash and zsh
[12:53] <Emanon> Yes.
[12:53] <_kud> and zsh has troubles
[12:54] <Third3ye> It kinda irritates... cause I can't get sound to work. But everytime I reboot I hear this bassdrum like kick when the kernel shuts down
[12:54] <Azmuth> Emanon: how to install it ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: its always wine doing the work,  the other stuff are just frontends to settings
[12:54] <Emanon> It's just a GUI to handle the rough edges of wine. You can install it from the standard Ubuntu (or possibly partner/nonefree) repos or get the latest version from their site here http://www.playonlinux.com/en/.
[12:55] <Azmuth> ok thx
[12:55] <Emanon> Once you get that installed PM me and I'll tell you how to install DX the easy way.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: what is the output of: apt-cache policy winev| grep -I installed
[12:55] <Azmuth> w8
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> I hate this tablet sometimes
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: apt-cache policy wine | grep -i installed
[12:57] <Azmuth> installed: (none)
[12:58] <Azmuth> that's the output
[12:58] <Third3ye> OMG...
[12:58] <Third3ye> Such a simple friggin' fix...
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: ok run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dpkg -l | grep wine | pastebinit
[12:59] <Third3ye> I just had to add "options intel_hda model=dv5" to alsa-base.conf xD
[12:59] <Third3ye> The internal speakers are working now
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Third3ye: yeah those are needed sometimes
[12:59] <Emanon> Wait, ActionParsnip there is a way to pipe the output straight to pastebin?
[12:59] <Emanon> That's awesome.
[12:59] <Azmuth> ActionParsnip: done
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Azmuth: what is the url generated?
[13:00] <Third3ye> Now this irritates me... it worked, untill I logged in and changed the tv to the main display and turned off the laptop display...
[13:00] <Azmuth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1503146/
[13:00] <Third3ye> Now the sound doesn't work again -.-;;
[13:01] <sw0rdfish_> anyone know a reliable free vpn service?
[13:01] <Third3ye> Though I did hear the drum when lightdm loaded :P
[13:01] <Emanon> You just made my evening ActionParsnip.
[13:02] <failor> sw0rdfish, depends on goals, there r no free and reliable once for hardcore purposes, buy one "double"+
[13:02] <failor> ones*
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Emanin: sure, pastebinit accepts text streams :)
[13:03] <sw0rdfish_> failor: its just that my vps provider let my current vps expire even though I paid for another one and told him to move the current plan to the new one... so now I'm vpn-less
[13:03] <sw0rdfish_> so to speak
[13:04] <cfhowlett> sw0rdfish: from where?  I ask because I found a non-vpn workaround for FB here in china ...
[13:05] <sw0rdfish_> northern europe
[13:05] <cfhowlett> sw0rdfish: so not to bypass gov't restrictions then ...
[13:05] <Emanon> Couldn't you just use Tor cfhowlett?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Emanon: maybe, but I'm a casual FB user and my impression is that tor is meant for more worldly matters *syria* *arab spring*
[13:07] <Andyland> sw0rdfish_: Yeah download the Tor browser bundle: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en. Your DL might be a little slower due to the tunneling but your totally anonomous
[13:07] <Emanon> Hardly. One of the lead Devs mentions it's aid in getting Chinese "citizens" to facebook.
[13:07] <Emanon> WOA Never say something is totally anonymous. That's putting people in danger.
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Emanon: as I said, I've got a workaround ... although I'm certain the gov't is very aware of it.
[13:08] <Emanon> It hasn't been seriously compromised yet and they try to keep it that way.
[13:08] <jacklk> Goodbye Ubuntu, I'm installing Windows 7
[13:08] <sw0rdfish_> i need a vpn
[13:08] <jacklk> finally no more errors
[13:08] <sw0rdfish_> i'm having trouble installing it on my local laptop
[13:09] <Andyland> Emanon: Yes Mr IT security there's no such thing as "totally anonymous" but the Tor project is a pretty good step at getting there you have to admit?
[13:09] <Third3ye> How do I delete the user sound settings?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> sw0rdfish: installing a vpn?
[13:09] <Third3ye> is it in .conf?
[13:09] <jost> jacklk, right... you do know that windows was programmed by Microsoft? So dream on.
[13:09] <failor> tor has serious security issues
[13:09] <Emanon> Definitely I just think it's irresponsible to say it's totally secure. It gives people the impression they don't need to use other methods to protect their identities online as well.
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Emanon: point taken.
[13:10] <sw0rdfish_> cfhowlett: installing openvpn i mean
[13:10] <jacklk> jost: So? Microsoft sucks, but Windows 7 is fine
[13:10] <cfhowlett> sw0rdfish: it won't install?  I am surprised ..
[13:10] <sw0rdfish_> i meant setting up is tough
[13:10] <cfhowlett> sw0rdfish: how are you installing and what feedback are you getting
[13:11] <cfhowlett> sw0rdfish: oh, well yeah...  not the most intuitive.
[13:12] <El-E-Va-Tion> can anybody help me with kppp window disappearing in 12.10?
[13:12] <magik_> I have been having a heck of a time accessing my Ubuntu 12.10 laptop from my gf Windows 8 on the local net using SAMBA so I can get her music on her computer,  Anyone have any ideas?
[13:12] <sw0rdfish_> yeah sorry bout that cfhowlett :)
[13:12] <Tashtego> after installing and testing with ati drivers i cant see my unity launcher anymore :((((( plz help. i only see my desktop and my console
[13:12] <lastleo85> uh? magik_
[13:12] <failor> sw0rdfish_, well probably i have an abadoned router of mine somewhere in russia with routeros and ~15mbit bandwidth if u won't find any free vpn subscription that fits
[13:12] <jacklk> sw0rdfish_: I will set it up for you
[13:13] <Tashtego> already tried unity --reset and unity --reset-icons but that doesnt finish
[13:13] <failor> if u're interested in such kind of solution of course
[13:13] <Tashtego> i fucked up my system :(
[13:13] <cfhowlett> !cookie|jacklk:
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Tashtego  language
[13:13] <magik_> yes lastleo85 ?
[13:14] <lastleo85> can you please elaborate magik_
[13:14] <jacklk> lol cfhowlett :P
[13:14] <failor> elaborate magick
[13:14] <failor> sounds like fun
[13:15] <MeanEYE> I need a CPU test program. Can someone suggest somethign?
[13:15] <magik_> For some reason lastleo85 when I try to login from her Windows 8 computer to my SAMBA share it says that she does not have access to the network.  I'm pretty sure I set everything up right but there might be something I'm missing on my end.
[13:15]  * Andyland <3 id_rsa.pub
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:16] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj: greetings!
[13:16] <sw0rdfish_> the script i'm modifying and using is for OpenVZ VPS so thats why I'm having a hard time setting up openvpn successfully
[13:16] <Robbilie_> Tashtego what exactly happens?
[13:16] <madc|SPYnX> hi How to set up wammu with ZTE MF-627?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[13:17] <sw0rdfish_> I'll tell you what
[13:17] <jacklk> BluesKaj: hi, sup?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj: what's the word, truBlue?
[13:17] <atlef> !offtopic
[13:17] <sw0rdfish_> I'm surprised there is no good ubuntu 12.04 openvpn server setup tutorial or somethin
[13:17] <Tashtego> Robbilie, i can see the login, then i do login and my desktop starts with my icons. but the launcher is away and the strg+alt+arrow shows different
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hi jacklk
[13:17] <jacklk> sw0rdfish_: Let me do it for you, I set up VPns all the time on OpenVZ
[13:18] <Tashtego> Robbilie, my start bar is completely away, that launcher
[13:18] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, "Coffee" is the word atm :)
[13:18] <magik_> lastleo85, I made her a unix account set the SMB password and everything but it says cant access and sometimes it acts like im giving the wrong password.
[13:19] <sw0rdfish_> jacklk: I'm trying to set it on my laptop not on OpenVZ vps.... and why are you soo adamant to set it for me?? .... are you really such a nice person :D
[13:19] <jacklk> sw0rdfish_: I am bored and have nothing better to do -- can you set up a ssh server?
[13:19] <oming> 안녕하세요
[13:19] <Robbilie_> Tashtego please add the underscore because my other acc is muted
[13:20] <jacklk> I'm wating for 1 hour download so want tod o something :P
[13:20] <Robbilie_> Tashtego you want to run ubity right?
[13:20] <Tashtego> Robbilie_ right. unity runs right now, but without my launcher
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> !korean | oming
[13:21]  * cfhowlett some people just don't learn ...
[13:21] <Tashtego> ?
[13:22] <sw0rdfish_> jacklk: if your intentions are nobel, write me a script that sets it up successfully for 12.04 :D
[13:22] <jacklk> I can try
[13:23] <madc|SPYnX> hi How to set up wammu with ZTE MF-627?
[13:23] <Third3ye> Sound.... on internal speakers working... o___o no HDMI though... still; bumping mr Oizo with "flat beat"... so it's breakneck time in this mofo ^__^ *headbop*
[13:23] <sw0rdfish_> jacklk: plz do :D
[13:24] <TakeItEZ> sw0rdfish_: what do you need a script for? installopenvpn, create your client.conf and run "sudo openvpn your.conf"
[13:24] <sw0rdfish_> i need a 5 minute break i'm too frustrated to think straight at the moment.... been working on it for some hours now.
[13:24] <TakeItEZ> sw0rdfish_: openvpn has a superb documentation on their website and there is #openvpn on freenode too
[13:25] <sw0rdfish_> thats the easy part which I have already accomplished TakeItEZ
[13:25] <jacklk> sw0rdfish_: Have you ever started from scratch?
[13:25] <sw0rdfish_> client.key and .crt is a bit annoying with all the commands
[13:26] <sw0rdfish_> jacklk: no actually
[13:26] <sw0rdfish_> I'm gonna do that after i take a break... gonna go at it without the script i found online
[13:26] <jacklk> You may have messed it up
[13:26] <Third3ye> Can anybody make heads or tails out of a alsa-info file for me? http://pastebin.com/jU1pBav3
[13:27] <Third3ye> Trying to get hdmi to work...
[13:27] <sw0rdfish_> if so, then I can uninstall openvpn and re-install it, right? jacklk
[13:27] <jacklk> That would be fine
[13:27] <sw0rdfish_> awesome!
[13:28] <jacklk> if not better!
[13:28] <jacklk> make sure you have backed up anything important you need though
[13:28] <sw0rdfish_> ok :D
[13:28] <ubuntuaddicted> have static when i record with analog microphone, anyone know how to fix? my built in sound card is a VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx]
[13:29] <jacklk> sw0rdfish_: when in doubt and feel you have to give up, start again :P --it works every time
[13:29] <Emanon> Doesn't "Ubuntuholic" have a better ring to it ubuntuaddicted?
[13:29] <TakeItEZ> sw0rdfish_: http://bit.ly/LM3uMN
[13:29] <ubuntuaddicted> whats weird is that it used to be fine before I installed an HD PVR and a Logitech C260 webcam.
[13:29] <lruneh> just installed ubuntu - van't get my canon mx340 printer to work - any body able to help?
[13:29] <ubuntuaddicted> Emanon, sure. lol
[13:29] <sw0rdfish_> i have half an hour til a match begins and I can't use my tv box without a vpn ..... damnn
[13:30] <sw0rdfish_> TakeItEZ: that would work for 12.04?
[13:30] <jacklk> Good luck sw0rdfish_!
[13:30] <sw0rdfish_> thanks you! jacklk :D
[13:30] <TakeItEZ> sw0rdfish_: i odn#t see why it shouldn't
[13:30] <TakeItEZ> don't
[13:31] <sw0rdfish_> should I su or use sudo to do it?
[13:31] <TakeItEZ> sw0rdfish_: what about reading the howto first
[13:31] <ubuntuaddicted> i hate how some things as simple as mic recording seem so hard to fix
[13:31] <Third3ye> Audio... for... testing purposes :P of a "state of the art" OS ^__~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIKQMBBTtk
[13:33] <magik_> lruneh, what ubuntu version are you using?  Is it a full install?
[13:33] <atlef> !webcam
[13:33] <pino50> !list
[13:33] <lruneh> magik_ using 12.10 it's a full install. my printer is on wifi network
[13:35] <magik_> can you see the printer using any other machines?
[13:36] <lruneh> yes. yesterday using windows 7 I could find it,np
[13:36] <lruneh> I've tried following som tutorials on installing drivers, but no luck
[13:37] <magik_> Ok, I personaly have never used a wifi printer except at college.
[13:38] <trol_> Ajam
[13:38] <magik_> What I would suggest you do is set up a share on the windows computer and connect to it through samba but that might even be more of a pain lol.
[13:38] <john_555> hi, i think my ssd is dead. need help to confirm it. dmesg shows nothing plugging and unpluging the 120gb ssd. attaching it to ide directly results in (after a few minutes) as "no drive" in the phoenix v1.18 bios. lsusb show nothing same as dmesg. what can i do next??
[13:39] <magik_> But I'm almost positive there is a solution so keep searching.
[13:39] <ubuntuaddicted> no one can help with microphone static?
[13:40] <lruneh> OK, thanks anyway, Magik_ :)
[13:40] <annamaria> ciao a tutti
[13:40] <annamaria> !list
[13:40] <magik_> lruneh, np, one more thing have you tried hooking the printer up directly to the computer?
[13:40] <lruneh> no, havn't done that. I'll give that a try
[13:41] <magik_> lruneh, yes definetaly try that because then it will recognize it better possibly.
[13:41] <Emanon> bazhang: The troll is back.
[13:41] <annamaria> ciao
[13:41] <annamaria> !list
[13:41] <lruneh> good point
[13:42] <biopyte> hi, using 12.04 i have to login again every time i close the lid of my notebook (not running on battery). what setting can change this behaviour (do nothing upon closing the lid)?
[13:42] <magik_> Emanon, what's a troll i'm kinda old school haven't heard that term yet lol
[13:42] <Emanon> Greifer. Someone who does stuff just to rustle other people's jimmies.
[13:43] <magik_> Emanon, ah I see
[13:44] <john_555> bump
[13:45] <worm> biopyte: How about have a look at "System Settings"? I think that there should be something in "Power" section.
[13:45] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : what release ofubuntu r u using
[13:46] <Third3ye> So, over to a subjective matter... what's the best MP3 player for unity that is as equally awesome as Amarok... and no; rhythmbox is not as equally awesome...
[13:46] <magik_> Third3ye, I use Banshee
[13:46] <Emanon> I'm fond of banshee.
[13:47] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, Xubuntu 12.04
[13:47] <biopyte> worm, i checked that already
[13:48] <SpheX> Hello, i just created ubuntu secured remix usb key with LiLI, and when i try to install it says invalid magic number and after thath line you must first install kernel.
[13:48] <SpheX> What should i do?
[13:48] <SpheX> Actualy second line is: you need to load the kernel first
[13:48] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, it's beyond me why there is static, never used to be. i recently plugged in a HD PVR and a webcam but even unplugging those still results in static recordings. I mean it still records my voice but also has static and is unacceptable for my youtube videos
[13:49] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : ok, there is a common problem with PulseAudio on ubuntu 12.04 & 12.10 it causes audio distortion when using skype and playing multimedia files with VLC
[13:50] <MeanEYE> Does nvidia-experimental-310 support custom compiled kernels?
[13:50] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, files play fine in vlc for me, it's just recording my voice
[13:51] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, I have a VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx]
[13:51] <ubuntuaddicted> MeanEYE, I don't see why not. the newer drivers have DKMS
[13:51] <Emanon> Tex_Nick: Thanks for that tip about bonding the other night (that sounded so much less homoerotic in my head) I saw somewhere that 13.04 might be including a bonding option in the network manager.
[13:52] <Tex_Nick> i'm not sure if xubuntu is also affected ... i've had the problem & the fix is easy ... it only requires editing one line in the pulse directory ...; http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad
[13:52] <MeanEYE> ubuntuaddicted: Am not sure. I think it failed once on me.
[13:53] <Tex_Nick> you might give it a try ... can easily change it back it it doesn't help
[13:54] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : hey no problem ... hope it pointed you in a good direction ;-)
[13:54] <john_555> bump...hi, i think my ssd is dead. need help to confirm it. dmesg shows nothing plugging and unpluging the 120gb ssd. attaching it to ide directly results in (after a few minutes) as "no drive" in the phoenix v1.18 bios. lsusb show nothing same as dmesg. what can i do next??
[13:54] <Emanon> Bet THAT sounded different in your head too.
[13:55] <nibbler_> john_555: sounds pretty dead
[13:55] <nibbler_> john_555: which is sort of standard behaviour of SSDs
[13:55] <john_555> i tried knoppix and backtrack also nothing
[13:56] <john_555> worked fine so far, after a hybernation it stoped
[13:56] <nibbler_> john_555: its dead as dead can be, leave distros out of that, you bios does not even get it
[13:56] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, i don't even have this line: load-module module-hal-detect? I have a line that reads: load-module module-udev-detect
[13:57] <john_555> nibbler_: so there is nothing i can try?
[13:58] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : ok that was the same for me ... it fixed me right up ... i've also helped other people here with similar problems ... has helped most of them
[13:58] <nibbler_> john_555: no
[13:58] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, my file already has load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0
[13:59] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : try editing that line ... i think you need to logout & back in or restart for it to work
[13:59] <john_555> nibbler_: If i could only safe some data from it. howabout forensic tools?
[14:00] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, it already had the tsched=0 on the end of the line I am saying.
[14:00] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : ah ok an upgrade must have already done it for you ... it's been a pesky problem
[14:00] <GibbaTheHutt> hi, does anyone know where gnome-terminal profiles are stored these days ?
[14:01] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, what's weird is that just a few days ago I was able to record my voice fine using the same hardware
[14:01] <TakeItEZ> john_555: how would forensic tools access the data if the ssd isn't recognized as a drive at all? get back your data from backups
[14:01] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : i don't know what else to tell you ... you'll probably find someone here that can help though ;-)
[14:02] <ubuntuaddicted> Tex_Nick, k, thanks anyway, I love the ubuntu community. been using since breezy badger
[14:02] <ubuntuaddicted> gotta run, laters
[14:04] <john_555> TakeITEZ: i guess you'r right.
[14:04] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuaddicted : yeah linux ROCKS :-)
[14:04] <nibbler_> john_555: sometimes its hard to let go, but there is no other way here
[14:07] <john_555> nibbler_: it was freaking 6mnds old and i broke the warranty seal to look inside, that thing was expensive
[14:09] <nibbler_> john_555: my first 3 ssds... none survived the first week - my 4th was snatched by my college and worked a full 2 years for him before it died
[14:09] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'd like to copy a bootable image (for my Raspberry Pi) to an SD card using my Ubuntu laptop. My laptop does not have an SD-card slot, but I have a USB SD-card reader. I type `ls -la /dev/sd*` before and after inserting the card reader, and /dev/sdb appears in the list (not immediately, but eventually). However, when I try to `sudo dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/sdb`, it says "dd: opening `/dev/sdb': No such device or address". Please help!
[14:09] <linelevel> ^ Did that cut off?
[14:09] <TakeItEZ> john_555: i'd still try to get warranty exchange for that drive, you have nothing to lose. maybe the maufacturer knows about his sh...
[14:10] <Third3ye> Where can I find dmix?
[14:10] <TakeItEZ> sorry, sh...= "superb piece of hightech-hardware"
[14:11] <weebl> Hi all, I have a problem with keys getting 'stuck' occassionally. I don't know why it happens. I've googled and it says it has to do with the repeat key option in the keyboard settings, but it's a pain to have this turned off. Does anyone else know if there is a fix for this bug?
[14:11] <john_555> nibbler_: what do you use now? i had mayor problems using TRIM, sometimes it was or was not recognised by bios. I still thing the drive might not be broken cos it is a bios problem
[14:13] <Emanon> I wonder if SWGEmu runs in WINE...
[14:13] <iceroot> !appdb | Emanon
[14:14] <Emanon> It's a new'ish project so I don't think it would be in the db yet.
[14:15] <Emanon> I was just wondering aloud so someone might say "gee Ema, I used to play that game too why don't we regail each other with stories of the good old days when MMO's were reviled in the media from the relative safety of offtopic.
[14:15] <apricot> hallo, ich habe den messenger 'goober' (http://goober.de) installiert.  Beim Start Fehler:  libssl.so.0.9.8 fehlt. Synaptic / apt-get finden nichts
[14:16] <Emanon> And now we wait to see how long till that hanging quotation drives someone with OCD insane.
[14:16] <jrib> "
[14:16] <Tex_Nick> !de | apricot
[14:16] <apricot> ok
[14:17] <voxadam> I have an old single core netbook with half a gig of ram that isn't good for much, if I were to load a minimal OS and maybe XFCE on to it would it make a decent X client (I know that's not the correct term) to run stuff off my workstation? I'm just looking to run an IRC client, IM client, simple browser, and some terminals that are all running on my quad core workstation remotely over my wireless lan?
[14:17] <voxadam> I'm terrible with X terminology.
[14:17] <jrib> voxadam: I'd go with lubuntu (lxde).  Should run fine on there
[14:18] <voxadam> jrib, will it run better remotely than it would locally assuming a decent network connection?
[14:18] <voxadam> My workstation is a quad core i5 with 32 gig of ram.
[14:19] <jrib> voxadam: I don't think you'll have a problem either way.  I would just experiment with each and see what works better for you
[14:19] <voxadam> My network is a lightly loaded 802..11n.
[14:19] <voxadam> I'll try it out.
[14:19] <jacklk> Can I use.. dd to create a bootable Windows 7 USB?
[14:19] <jacklk> I'm talking about dd on Linux.
[14:19] <MeanEYE> voxadam: Browsers eat the most memory of the bunch. But half a gig should be enough for daily tasks. Make sure to have a decent swap, and you should be okay.
[14:20] <iceroot> jacklk: ask ##windows its depending on the iso
[14:20] <jacklk> iceroot: Windows 7
[14:20] <iceroot> jacklk: ##windows
[14:20] <jacklk> iceroot: I have.
[14:22] <Emanon> I forgot, where did I say unity stored its dashboard shortcuts in the /home directory the other night?
[14:23] <CrusaderAD> Anyone have any recommendations for a solid, stable pci e graphics card for Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[14:24] <El-E-Va-Tion> can anybody help me with kppp window disappearing in 12.10?
[14:24] <Emanon> Something NVidia I would guess CrusaderAD.
[14:24] <home__> back again
[14:25] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : .gconf ... ls -aR | grep 'gconf.*keybindings'
[14:25] <Emanon> Dashboard not keyboard.
[14:26] <Emanon> Like the win-key menu.
[14:26] <CrusaderAD> Emanon: I have a Nvidia GeForce 610 and it doesn't perform too well with compiz.
[14:26] <T|ASK> Hi, I want to seal a proprietary software folder with new group and user rights. How can I create a user account without password? Not sure if I'm on the right track.
[14:27] <Emanon> Nothing performs really well with compiz CrusaderAD do you have the proprietary drivers installed?
[14:27] <CrusaderAD> Emanon: Yep :/
[14:28] <madc|SPYnX> Where can i download for my graphics im using 12.10 and using Radeon HD 4290
[14:28] <El-E-Va-Tion> nevermind, I figured it out how to do it with the network setup :P thanks, peace! :)
[14:28] <Emanon> Try in the drivers tab of the sources menu madc|SPYnX.
[14:29] <madc|SPYnX> Emanon, is doesn't show the driver in that ta b
[14:30] <sw0rdfish_> hmmm
[14:30] <Emanon> Then I'm out of my depth ;-) wait for someone else.
[14:30] <sw0rdfish_> I got it to work but I can't bypass the stupid blockade
[14:30] <madc|SPYnX> Emanon, is it in Software Sources >> Additional Drivers???
[14:31] <Emanon> Yes.
[14:31] <tux-linux> hola alguien para charlar un rato sobre temas de informatica
[14:31] <madc|SPYnX> Emanon, no prop drivers in use
[14:31] <Emanon> !es | tux-linux
[14:32] <Emanon> Then I can be of no help perhaps one of the guru's here know something that might help you.
[14:34] <madc|SPYnX> How can I put Radeon 4290 in my ubuntu 12.10
[14:34] <T|ASK> Oh should  I create a system user instead?
[14:34] <Tex_Nick> madc|SPYnX : have a look at this ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[14:35] <root> ciao
[14:36] <Guest88615> !list
[14:37] <Guest88615> musica
[14:37] <compdoc> no musica
[14:37] <Tex_Nick> !es compdoc
[14:38] <no_tech> hi there.  anyone able to assist with why trying to upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 i get an "authentication failed" message?
[14:38] <Tex_Nick> !es | compdoc
[14:38] <dalsgaard> After having done a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop to try it out, my computer has been booting slower, even after removing the package again. Does anyone have suggestions?
[14:38] <k1l> Guest88615: no warez here. even no italian. and irc as root is even a bad idea
[14:39] <compdoc> !try-to-follow-the-conversation  | Tex_Nick
[14:39] <Tex_Nick> yeah sorry :(
[14:40] <skp1> can anyone help me with my hemmheroids?
[14:40] <buhman> is gnutls known to be broken? http://sprunge.us/OSbf
[14:41] <k1l> skp1: that is not appropriate here.
[14:41] <skp1> oh ok
[14:42] <kumar> hi
[14:43] <kumar> I need help on ubuntu
[14:43] <k1l> !ask | kumar
[14:43] <madc|SPYnX> !ask
[14:43] <kumar> okies
[14:43] <kumar> i am unable to install ubuntu on my laptop
[14:43] <madc|SPYnX> !patience | kumar
[14:44] <kumar> its a HCL
[14:44] <k1l> kumar: what menas: unable?
[14:44] <k1l> *means
[14:47] <subman> My launch bar keeps moving from my left screen and back to my right screen seemingly randomly upon each start up.  Is there a way to keep it in one place all the time?
[14:52] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> totally off topic people
[14:52] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> (sorry)
[14:52] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> but my scooter has just been stolen, I'm not covered for theft under my insurance , and hte prospects of recovering it are slim.....
[14:53] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> If I report it will my insurance premium go up?
[14:53] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> I live in the UK
[14:53] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> and am I obligated to do so?
[14:53] <auronandace> DrDiegoDeLaVega: seriously, if its off topic why mention it
[14:54] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> because auronandace I know that ubuntu users are a very intelligent and well informed bunch and that there is likely to be someone here who can tell me the answer where people not familiar with the UK in #law couldnt :-)
[14:55] <buhman> DrDiegoDeLaVega: LOL
[14:55] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> a sign of the high regard with which I view our community ;-)
[14:55] <buhman> "ubuntu users are a very intelligent and well informed bunch" rofl
[14:55] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> well perhaps I'm only speaking of those I know personally who use it then, lol ;-)
[14:56] <Emanon> DrDiegoDeLaVega: https://pay.reddit.com/r/rbi/new/?sort=new
[14:56] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> It's also one of the biggest chatrooms on freenode => probability of success is larger ;-)
[14:56] <auronandace> DrDiegoDeLaVega: just because there is a large audience here and you acknowledge your post is off topic doesn't mean you can continue to use this channel for anything other than ubuntu support
[14:56] <k1l> !ot | DrDiegoDeLaVega
[14:57] <auronandace> !guidelines | DrDiegoDeLaVega
[14:58] <Emanon> Seriously DrDiegoDeLaVega try reddit, they love a good sleuthing.
[14:58] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> that site is really cool emanon ;-)
[14:58] <DrDiegoDeLaVega> Is it just US based?
[14:58] <Emanon> Failing that try /b/ (good luck there)
[14:59] <Emanon> Reddit  is global but many (probably most) are US.
[14:59] <k1l> Emanon: please keep the offtopic of here. you both were pointed to the appropriate channels
[14:59] <Emanon> Fair enough.
[15:00] <Emanon> See you in OT DrDiegoDeLaVega
[15:02] <serhat> hello?
[15:03] <DJones> !hi | serhat
[15:04] <serhat> I'm having trouble with audacious
[15:04] <serhat> when I minimize it
[15:05] <serhat> playlist doesnt get minimized
[15:05] <auronandace> DJones: that factoid was removed years ago
[15:05] <DJones> auronandace: Hadn't realised that
[15:08] <Tex_Nick> serhat : If you don't get help here ... The official Audacious channel is presently not on freenode - to get to it: /server irc.atheme.org /join #audacious
[15:09] <serhat> Tex_Nick, i am not familiar with irc channel adding
[15:11] <Tex_Nick> serhat : it's not the channel, it's on another server ... if you are using xchat you can add the server from the menu xchat/networl list
[15:12] <serhat> Tex_Nick, okay i think i got it, thanks
[15:12] <Tex_Nick> menu xchat/networklist*
[15:12] <_kud> Hello, I can't use my numeric keyboard with zsh and kitty on ubuntu server, since my last upgrade
[15:12] <Tex_Nick> serhat : np hope it helps :-)
[15:13] <bekks> _kud: So which encoding/charset do you use in kitty?
[15:13] <serhat> Tex_Nick, i also disabled my workspace switch shortcuts by mistake
[15:14] <serhat> Tex_Nick, keyboard shows them but id just doesnt work
[15:14] <_kud> do yosorry but how to know bekks  ?
[15:14] <_kud> -do yo
[15:14] <serhat> Tex_Nick, i can see them on keyboard->shortcuts
[15:15] <bekks> _kud: It is in the settings of the kitty session.
[15:15] <Ubiquity4321> hello everyone
[15:16] <tomleo> Hi dr nick
[15:16] <Tex_Nick> serhat : how did you disable them
[15:16] <Ubiquity4321> so i set up ubuntu server on an old box i have
[15:16] <serhat> i don't know, i was messing with compiz settings, probably then
[15:16] <Ubiquity4321> and I want to set it up as a headless machine
[15:17] <iceroot> is there a shortcut to delete files directly without putting them in trash first? (12.04 unity)
[15:17] <Ubiquity4321> and I want to set up wake on lan
[15:17] <Ubiquity4321> I've done googled my heart out at this point
[15:17] <_kud> Yes i'm utf-8 bekks
[15:17] <Ubiquity4321> and i'm really kind of lost
[15:17] <serhat> iceroot, shift+delete
[15:17] <iceroot> serhat: thank you
[15:18] <Tex_Nick> serhat : try logging off then back on ... if that doesn't work you might need to reset unity
[15:18] <serhat> Tex_Nick, reset unity?
[15:19] <Tex_Nick> serhat : what distro are you using
[15:19] <serhat> Tex_Nick, ubuntu 12.04
[15:20] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: have you enabled WoL on your nic? "ethtool ethX" tells you
[15:20] <Tex_Nick> serhat : ok first i'd just try logout then back in ... if it doesn't restore them ... you can reset the compiz settings
[15:21] <serhat> Tex_Nick, is there a method to reset them all
[15:21] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: installing ethtool now
[15:22] <serhat> Tex_Nick, do you use ubuntu with unity too?
[15:22] <serhat> Tex_Nick, if so can you use those shortcuts?
[15:22] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: check the lines containing "Wake-on"
[15:24] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: hmmm says no such devices
[15:24] <Ubiquity4321> i've enabled it in my power settings
[15:24] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: rel´place ethX with your actual network iface
[15:24] <Ubiquity4321> in bios
[15:24] <Ubiquity4321> oh derp
[15:25] <skp1> i have a question. my video card is a radeon hd 6300. according to my computer details i am using a vesa driver. am i getting the best experience with this?
[15:25] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: "supports wake-on: pumbg"
[15:25] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: "wake-on: d'
[15:25] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: sudo ethtool -s ethX wol g
[15:25] <serhat> Tex_Nick, okay i got it on my own
[15:25] <serhat> Tex_Nick, thanks anyway
[15:25] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: do you use /etc7network/interfaces to configure your network?
[15:26] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: one minute, let me read my man page. i wanna see what i'm doing here
[15:26] <raven> hi
[15:26] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: do you use /etc/network/interfaces to configure your network?
[15:26] <raven> is streamripper able to record 1 hour blocks?
[15:26] <serhat> Tex_Nick, seems like i somehow disabled expo wall, silly me
[15:26] <Tex_Nick> serhat : great, i was looking for the link to fix that ... out of curosity what did you do
[15:26] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: it was automatically set up, but i'll look into that
[15:27] <Tex_Nick> serhat : lol ... ok ;-)
[15:27] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: check /etc/network/interface, add 2 lines after the "iface ethX..."  to enable WoL permanently:
[15:28] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: post-up /usr/sbin/ethtool -s ethX wol g
[15:28] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: post-down /usr/sbin/ethtool -s ethX wol g
[15:30] <raven> is streamripper able to record 1 hour blocks?
[15:31] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: it's all written
[15:31] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: " /usr/sbin/ethtool -s ethX wol g" simply tells the given network-iface to wake on magic-packets, nothing dangerous :)
[15:31] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: tbh, i was only curious what -s did
[15:33] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: -s "change". so restart your network-iface, bring the machine down and wake it up from a different one using etherwake or a similar tool
[15:33] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: well, i want to wol from a windows box
[15:33] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: i dual-boot fedora and win7
[15:33] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: there are wol-tools for windows also, i just cannot name one
[15:35] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: could you assist me with the headless part as well?
[15:36] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: headless as in remote X?
[15:36] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: headless as in remote command line
[15:36] <nemos> Hello i have problem seting nomodset. My grub is black and not pink with F6 options
[15:36] <TakeItEZ> !ssh | Ubiquity4321  simply use ssh
[15:36] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: well, i've got xming installed and configured
[15:37] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: but i don't know how to connect the two
[15:37] <nemos> Hello i have problem seting nomodset. My grub is black and not pink with F6 options
[15:37] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: xming is an Xserver for windows, thats not commandline
[15:37] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: and i've got openssh installed on the linux box
[15:37] <Mkop1> so I have come to the realization that ubuntu 12.10 is not made for my 5 year old laptop. what should I downgrade to? 10.04 LTS?
[15:38] <kylescottmcgill> Ubiquity4321: if you have openssh you should be able to ssh user@ipadress
[15:38] <nemos> !Help
[15:38] <kylescottmcgill> -_- excuse the spelling
[15:38] <Third3ye> Mkop1: you could trim the components...
[15:38] <Third3ye> Mkop1: remove unity, install xfce...
[15:38] <jrib> Mkop1: try xfce or lxde (xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop packages will give you the option at login for them)
[15:38] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: ohhhh. i'll just use putty then
[15:39] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: use putty from windows to connect to the linux-box and you're done
[15:39] <nemos> I need help. How can i start with nomodset if my grub is black with no F6 options?
[15:39] <kylescottmcgill> Mkop1: if you are really keen to skimp on resources, you should out a Tiling Window Manager, or OpenBox
[15:39] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: i thought it would be harder than that. thank you
[15:39] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: from fedora, use "ssh user@box"   box= yourlinux.box
[15:39] <TakeItEZ> Ubiquity4321: and if you don't want to use X-apps remotely, you can remove xming, no need for it then
[15:40] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: you're so knowledgeable and helpful
[15:40] <Ubiquity4321> TakeItEZ: thank you so much
[15:40] <nemos> I need help. How can i start with nomodset if my grub is black with no F6 options?
[15:40] <Mkop1> jrib: if I just apt-get install lubuntu-desktop I can just log out and the login screen will give me an option to use those desktop managers instead of unity?
[15:40] <jrib> Mkop1: yes
[15:41] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[15:41] <Mkop1> I don't get why, for example, gnome-system-monitor is currently using 27% of CPU.
[15:41] <nibbler_> nemos: you could boot from cd and fix it from there...
[15:42] <nemos> kylescottmcgill, you missunderstood my grub doesnt look pink its black. I dont have F6 option
[15:42] <nemos> nibler_, i am trying to boot from live cd
[15:43] <volpone> ciaoa tutti
[15:43] <nemos> but my grub looks black with options to install or try its not pink. Therefore i dont have F2, F3,F4,F5 and F6 options
[15:44] <kylescottmcgill> i havnt seen grub look pink before, its always been black for me, as for not having a F6 option, boot into a live cd, chroot your ubuntu install and change the grub cfg line, and reboot again
[15:44] <nemos> i see the grub. Its just black with options to press C to edit commands and some other. Escape gets me to bash commands
[15:44] <kylescottmcgill> i think you can bash tab as well, and it will take it out of splash screen mode, or allow you to do something... argh memory is a little hazy :)
[15:44] <kylescottmcgill> ok
[15:44] <kylescottmcgill> cool
[15:45] <john_555> what is a good brand ssd in the 120gb range for ubuntu. my adata ssd just died.
[15:45] <kylescottmcgill> when you see that grub screen can you see your boot options?
[15:45] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: ^
[15:45] <TakeItEZ> john_555: there is none, they all suffer from early deads
[15:45] <compdoc> john_555, do you set the options for ssd in your fstab?
[15:46] <nemos> kylescottmcgill, i can see the try before install, install and so on
[15:46] <kylescottmcgill> :/ i have a vertex 4 by OCZ, i hope it doesnt die.....
[15:46] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: so you booted the live cd?
[15:47] <john_555> compdoc: no, and it is too late anyway, if i plug it in the ide it is not recognized by bios
[15:48] <compdoc> john_555, how old is the adata?
[15:48] <arrrghhh> Hey all.  Can I "uninstall" LVM?  I put LVM over some already formatted ext4 drives and I'm hoping my data is still OK....
[15:48] <kylescottmcgill> john_555: does it heat up when you turn it on? (even if the bios doesnt see it)
[15:48] <nemos> kylescottmcgill, yes. I am trying to try the ubuntu before install and i get a freeze because of my graphic card so the solution is to boot with nomodset
[15:49] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: ok before we continue, do you have ubuntu installed already?
[15:49] <kylescottmcgill> or are you actually just trying it out?
[15:49] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: no i dont. I tried to install it with wubi but it cannot see the install file after reboot so i am trying this instead
[15:49] <john_555> compdoc: 6mnds     kylescottmcgill: yes, a bit
[15:49] <tasslehoff> Setting up my first server, and I need to share files to osx and android. Is samba the way to go?
[15:50] <Tex_Nick> john_555 : i've been using OCZ for a few years now ... have 5 of them ... no problems here ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008120%2050001550&IsNodeId=1&name=OCZ%20Technology
[15:50] <michael_2> nemos, have you selected the "try it out" option and pressed the 'e' key to go to the boot options menu?
[15:51] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: ok then, please re-read that forum i posted you, if you have a recent version of Ubuntu (12.10) you should see those options, if you have a special keyboard trying holding the function key prior to pressing F6 for other options
[15:51] <nemos> michael_2: so i need to navigte to try before install and then press E?
[15:52] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: i dont see the normal grub options thats why i am asking what to do
[15:52] <michael_2> nemos: depending on your live cd setup, that might give you some options.  I've never tried it from a live cd, however, so I can't confirm if it wil work.
[15:52] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: the grub looks like if you dualboot and have few versions of linux and one windows.
[15:53] <kylescottmcgill> john_555: if i was you, i wouldnt put it back into your computer, let it sit over night and try it in someone elses computer, just incase, something might have gone wrong and your bios has gone all crazy on your ssd... otherwise, i have a OCZ Vertex 4 128 GB, and its bliss, and its cheap
[15:53] <nemos> black with white letters
[15:53] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: any chance you can take a photo of it, and upload it to imgur or something?
[15:53] <nemos> sure with my phone
[15:54] <nemos> ill be back
[15:54] <kylescottmcgill> if you can that would be great
[15:54] <kylescottmcgill> tty
[15:54] <kylescottmcgill> ty*
[15:54] <cow974> hello.
[15:55] <kylescottmcgill> actually i will brb in 5 too
[15:56] <ankur> hi can any1 help me plz?
[15:57] <ankur> hi can  u help me plz?
[15:57] <ccsteale> hi ankur how can we help?
[15:57] <ankur> i am a newbie to  linx
[15:57] <ccsteale> I can certainly try, what's up?
[15:57] <ankur> and when i try to boot frm cd then i get this error
[15:57] <Toph2> Ankur...what is the problem, your car won't start?
[15:57] <ankur> isolinux disk error 80
[15:58] <ankur> ax=4280, drive 9f
[15:58] <ankur> what is this?
[15:58] <ankur> and when i boot my laptop with the same cd, it gets booted...
[15:58] <ankur> plz help me what is the matter?
[15:58] <bekks> ankur: Whats the complete error message you get when doing what exactly?
[15:58] <ankur> its this
[15:59] <yousaf_> hi every, i am new to linux stuff in fact i don't know anything. I have a few PHP processes in a "tasks" folder and I need to find they are active or not. my app has stopped working and i think one of the tasks has stopped
[15:59] <ankur> "isolinux disk error 80, ax=4280, drive 9f"
[15:59] <kylescottmcgill> back
[15:59] <michael_2> ankur: corrupted install
[15:59] <ccsteale> ankur, if the disk works in your laptop, chances are it could be an issue with the drive itself
[15:59] <bekks> ankur: And it happens when doing what exactly?
[15:59] <michael_2> ankur: download again and make sure to use a supported live cd creation tool
[15:59] <ankur> u mean my hard drive
[15:59] <kylescottmcgill> ankur: sounds like you need to re-burn the cd, or your drive is busted
[15:59] <Petaz> check mdsum
[15:59] <Justice> how do I enable webapps in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:00] <ankur> which drive dvd rom drive or hard disk?
[16:00] <michael_2> Justice: Use Firfox, go to a web-app supported site, and you should get a pop-up
[16:00] <kylescottmcgill> that looks like your cd/dvd drive to me
[16:00] <kylescottmcgill> ankur: ^
[16:00] <ankur> hey listen plz, i have alrdy got a 32bit ubuntu cd and when i insert it, then it gets booted
[16:00] <MeanEYE> Just like I thought. nVidia doesn't like latest kernel :/
[16:00] <Toph2> ankur,,, is this helpful?     http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/426713-isolinux-disk-error-80-ax-4280-drive-9f.html
[16:01] <Justice> michael_2, will it work with chromeium ?
[16:01] <michael_2> Justice: It works with Chromium (I think) but not Chrome
[16:01] <ankur> hahahahaha, i alrdy visited this page bt not helpful
[16:01] <yousaf_> anyone?
[16:01] <Toph2> ok
[16:01] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: try lsof | grep -i <yourphpfiles> # in a terminal
[16:01] <bekks> ankur: Then check the md5sum, investigate wether it is a drive error, etc. - you got plenty of answers already.
[16:01] <Justice> michael_2, hm i dont get any notifications
[16:01] <ankur> whts dis md5sum
[16:01] <Justice> though i did now sudo apt-get install unity-webapps-*
[16:02] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: and sudo service apache2 status # to see if apache is running
[16:02] <michael_2> Justice: What site did you go to?
[16:02] <bekks> !md5sum > ankur
[16:02] <Justice> michael_2, gmail
[16:02] <yousaf_> apache must be running as the site works fine its the background processes i.e. tasks that seem to have stopped
[16:02] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: you can also tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log or /var/log/apache2/access.log
[16:03] <yousaf_> ok
[16:03] <yousaf_> let me do that, thank you
[16:03] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: http://i.imgur.com/BdtDG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/a3ffD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wdmlG.jpg
[16:04] <nerxgas> can anyone recommend a good ultraportable laptop with touchscreen? pm me please
[16:04] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: what version of the CD are you running? but on the try linux command, you can press e
[16:04] <kylescottmcgill> which will let you edit the boot options
[16:05] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: i just downloaded 12.10 x64 and burned it to a dvd
[16:05] <nemos> and yes i can press E
[16:05] <kylescottmcgill> on the linux line, http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png <-- like this, you need to add nomodest
[16:05] <michael_2> Justice: Try it with Firefox and see if it works there.  My understanding is that it's supposed to be enabled by default
[16:05] <nemos> i get bunch of commands
[16:06] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: ill try that thanks!
[16:06] <kylescottmcgill> no problem
[16:06] <Justice> michael_2, it worked now had to install chromium extension
[16:06] <michael_2> Justice: Ah cool.  :)
[16:07] <Justice> hm wonder if spotify gets this aswell
[16:07] <sw0rdfish_> how do I restarted iptables?
[16:07] <alein> service iptables restart
[16:08] <michael_2> Justice: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/list-of-that-websites-support-unitys-new-web-apps-feature
[16:08] <kylescottmcgill> does spotify work on linux these days?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> kylescottmcgill  with wine
[16:08] <sw0rdfish_> alein: says unrecognized service....
[16:08] <kylescottmcgill> bleh lame -_- :D
[16:09] <ankur> my problem is isolinux disk error 80, ax=4280, drive 9f
[16:09] <bekks> ankur: And you have been given plenty of answers on how to investigate further. You cannot have been gone through all of them in a few minutes.
[16:09] <ankur> sorry got dc
[16:10] <michael_2> sw0rdfish: iptables is a command not a service
[16:10] <Petaz> sw0rdfish http://serverfault.com/questions/129086/how-to-start-stop-iptables-on-ubuntu
[16:10] <ankur> bekks at least plz listen my problm
[16:10] <sw0rdfish_> thanks Petaz
[16:10] <alein> sw0rdfish_ so just use iptables-save > /etc/iptables
[16:10] <bekks> ankur: You told it to us three times now. The answers are still the same.
[16:10] <Petaz> i just google it im using windows
[16:10] <ankur> my problem is isolinux disk error 80, ax=4280, drive 9f, and i tried to boot my laptop with the same cd and it did
[16:10] <alein> if you want to remove all rules use iptables -F
[16:10] <Petaz> i dont know anything about linux
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> ankur  i read on several non-ubuntu forums, that the problem is solved, when the iso is burned with another burner
[16:11] <sw0rdfish_> hey i want to restore the settings in /etc/iptables.save
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> ankur  what burner did you use?
[16:11] <ankur> i got this cd frm my friend
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> sw0rdfish_, then iptables-save > /etc/iptables.save
[16:11] <alein> sw0rdfish_ ok then use iptables-restore -c /etc/iptables.save
[16:11] <ankur> and it is running on my laptop but not on the desktop
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> sw0rdfish_, although i strongly suggest you look into iptables-persistent if you want to autoload rules or something.
[16:11] <ankur> i just want to know why
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> ankur, repeating yourself will not help.  you've been given plenty of answers
[16:12] <TheLordOfTime> over two days.
[16:12] <TheLordOfTime> and you should follow the suggestions on what to investigate.
[16:12] <sw0rdfish_> oh thank god
[16:12] <sw0rdfish_> thanks sooo much alein :D
[16:12] <ankur> so u mean i need to burn the data of that cd at slow speed and then try again
[16:13] <alein> sw0rdfish_ you're welcome
[16:13] <ankur> and just 2 questions more
[16:13] <michael_2> ankur: yes...And use a burning program reccomended by Ubuntu
[16:13] <ankur> ok
[16:13] <Petaz> http://serverfault.com/questions/246829/is-it-enough-adding-iptables-rules-without-restart
[16:13] <ankur> bt why is it running on my laptop and not on desk?
[16:13] <TheLordOfTime> Petaz, answer: no it's not (i can ansnwer that in my sleep)
[16:14] <yousaf_> how can I restart all processes?
[16:14] <Petaz> this foruns are great source of questions to ask in this channel :)
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> yousaf_, reboot your computer.
[16:14] <sw0rdfish_> saved by the bell :D haha
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> ankur  you should have understood, that nobody knows, if you've been asking for two days
[16:14] <yousaf_> I only have SSH access
[16:14] <sw0rdfish_> you saved me from a lot of frustration alein, appreciate your help :)
[16:14] <alein> yousaf_ what do you mean?
[16:14] <michael_2> ankur: All I can tell you is that the error you are receiving is almost always due to a corrupted cd
[16:14] <alein> yousaf_ use reboot ;)
[16:15] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: i was able to get in with this command but i was only able to move my cursor. Both clicks didnt work and the keybord doesnt work. Its not even on. No lights. And after a minute it crashed again
[16:15] <ankur> ok i agree with you, bt just answer me why my laptop gets booted and my pc doesnt
[16:15] <ankur> this is the smple ques that i am asking
[16:15] <yousaf_> alein, are there any associated risks with that?
[16:16] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: ahh, how old is your computer?
[16:16] <alein> yousaf_ this command will restart the server/pc...
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> ankur  keep it in the channel, please
[16:16] <ankur> ok
[16:16] <michael_2> ankur: different bios versions?  Maybe one is UEFI?
[16:16] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: its new. I bought it this summer it has 3770k intel and nvidia gtx580
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> ankur  nobody knows, on the non-ubuntu forums, nobody knows, either. period.
[16:17] <ankur> ya my laptop is frm hcl, and desk motherboard of gigabyte
[16:17] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: both keybord and mouse are usb since there are no old round connectors on this motherboard
[16:17] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: if your background tasks have died you will need to restart them, this could be in any manner, did you set up the site? whoose website is it?
[16:17] <yousaf_> aein igot social is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[16:18] <ankur> bt i don think so
[16:18] <yousaf_> kylescottmcgill no I haven't set it up
[16:18] <michael_2> ankur: Ultimately it doesn't matter why one of your machines is being 'pickier' than the other.  The problem is likely the CD.  Just create a new one.  Or use a USB drive or something.
[16:18] <alein> yousaf_ you have no admin rights to this server/pc ;)
[16:19] <ankur> ok let me giv a try
[16:19] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: That should be ok, i have installed on a macbook, with an external keyboard and mouse and they both worked out of the box, you seem to have something that is causing you issues, it might be best to google some of your hardware and Ubuntu Support, because it sounds like something is seriously not right
[16:19] <ankur> thnk u all
[16:19] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: ok ill try to google some more and get back to you
[16:20] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: where is the server located? if its hosted with another company, restarting it via the terminal might be bad, as it might not come up (you may have to reboot the server from their control panel)
[16:20] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: ok cool stuff im here all night :)
[16:20] <yousaf_> that is a risk, i might have KVM access
[16:20] <yousaf_> is that better?
[16:21] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: if you dont know how to reload those php processes, then i would advise you to either search through your bash history, or the other users bash history, look for php -f
[16:21] <burdickjp> I'm coming to unity from KDE.  I'm missing some features from KRunner such as unit and currency conversions.  Are there lenses or other utilities for this in unity
[16:22] <kylescottmcgill> php -f will run php files as commands... kinda, to fork them to the background can be done in many ways, and you will need to correct way in order to have it hooked up to which ever system your using
[16:23] <kylescottmcgill> a correct way**
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !info convertall | burdickjp
[16:24] <Owiec> hi guys, i tried install the newest ubuntu on sony vaio but. livecd form usb start without errors but i cant start instalation because installation cant see partitions and all crash. Do you know solution for that?
[16:24] <michael_2> Owiec: Is your partition set up as an LVM?
[16:25] <kylescottmcgill> yousaf_: try running this sudo cat /home/**/.bash_history | grep -i -- php -f
[16:25] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrm/+bug/990411
[16:25] <Owiec> michael_2: i dont know, i didnt touch anything, its new computer.
[16:26] <michael_2> Owiec: And are you trying to set it up as a dual boot with Windows 8?
[16:26] <Owiec> michael_2: windows 7 + ubuntu
[16:27] <Guest90562> How to Download complete website for offline use from ubuntu
[16:27] <McPels> hi
[16:27] <michael_2> Owiec: You might want to try adjusting your partition tables using a Windows utility before the install.  Then select the new partition manually during the Ubuntu install.
[16:27] <McPels> How can I format a flash memory in Ubuntu 12.10?!!
[16:27] <jacklk> If my USB drive is /dev/sdd then what would the root path be to it? I want to use mv to copy a file to it.
[16:28] <jacklk> McPels: Install GParted
[16:28] <kapcom01> hello, which one of the two laptops would you suggest me for ubuntu?
[16:28] <jacklk> McPels: sudo apt-get install gparted -y, find your USB device, make a new partition table and FAT partitio.
[16:28] <kapcom01> http://www.e-shop.gr/s/PER.901013/HP-650-156---INTEL-DUAL-CORE-B820-2GB-500GB-FREE-DOS-+-TSANTA-METAFORAS.html
[16:28] <Guest90562> How to Download complete website for offline use from ubuntu
[16:28] <kapcom01> http://www.e-shop.gr/s/PER.901023/HP-655-156---AMD-E2-1800-2GB-320GB-RADEON-HD7340-FREE-DOS.html
[16:28] <Owiec> michael_2: i use http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/gg309170.aspx to create new partition with 70 GB, its empty but ubuntu still can see this.
[16:28] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: you might need to bite the bullet, and either install Ubuntu or try the mentioned work arounds
[16:28] <kapcom01> thanks.
[16:29] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: i was going to suggest to drop into a terminal, but you wont be able to login i think
[16:29] <Owiec> michael_2: i cant even click new partition because all crush then
[16:29] <kylescottmcgill> does anyone know if the root user is unlocked in the livecd?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> kylescottmcgill  there is no root, there is sudo
[16:30] <michael_2> Owiec: Have you tried using the "try ubuntu" option with the live cd yet?
[16:30] <Guest90562> Any one please
[16:30] <kylescottmcgill> MonkeyDust: so if you swap to TTY do you just enter root as the user name?
[16:30] <kylescottmcgill> TTY1 **
[16:30] <nemos> kylescottmcgill: so it will work if i install instead of try to run it from livecd?
[16:30] <bekks> Guest90562: You cant, since you wont have that much space locally. You'll need several hundreds of Gigabytes to do so.
[16:31] <Owiec> michael_2: mayby the problem is sony vaio has hybrid disk? (32 GB SSD)
[16:31] <SailorMoon> How do i start Ubuntu in a Terminal?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> kylescottmcgill  nu, you can use su -i, but be careful, it basically turns your pc into a windows machine, nobody wants that
[16:31] <xxkoncyxx> hy everybody
[16:31] <McPels> jacklk: is there any other way?
[16:31] <Owiec> michael_2: yes, i tried this and livecd see disk and data
[16:31] <k1l> Guest90562: just download it with firefox?
[16:31] <kylescottmcgill> MonkeyDust: lol you mean sudo -i ?
[16:31] <michael_2> SailorMoon: Are you asking how to make Ubuntu start in console mode by default instead of GUI mode?
[16:31] <kylescottmcgill> MonkeyDust: this is for nemos
[16:32] <jacklk> McPels: Using GParted is easier
[16:32] <jacklk> McPels: look on YouTube how to do it -- I've seen some videos it's simple
[16:32] <jacklk> search for a guide online
[16:32] <Guest90562> bekkk, k1l  Then how people download wiki ,   i think one of my old friend downloaded it of 25 g
[16:32] <mfdoom> if I download ubuntu desktop 12.04, can I do a core install from that? Or will it automatically install recommends and such?
[16:32] <kylescottmcgill> he cant boot into a livecd "try Ubuntu" due to some GFX issues on some of the later Mobo's
[16:32] <michael_2> Owiec: You could try adjusting the partition tables from Ubuntu in live cd test mode
[16:32] <xxkoncyxx> i have lubuntu 10.04on my Asus Eee PC 701SD.  Is there any way to install kde, openbox oe gnome onlubuntu?
[16:33] <k1l> Guest90562: that is different from "downloading a website". you should look out for a wikidump. but that is not a ubuntu support question. better ask the wiki support
[16:33] <dufa> Guest9041: you can use the command wget with -r to download a site recursively
[16:33] <kylescottmcgill> nemos: you could give it a shot, i cant promise its going to work, but according to the link you pasted me, there is a way around some of those issues, plus i have seen other users with your GFX Card running Ubuntu, so i know it works, but im not 100% sure about your Mobo sorry
[16:34] <Petaz> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/p320h-ssd-pci-express,review-32600.html A PCIe Drive Capable Of 3.2 GB/s
[16:34] <Owiec> michael_2: what exatly should i do?
[16:34] <michael_2> Owiec: After booting into test mode, use the GParted app to modify the partition tables.
[16:34] <McPels> jacklk: sorry, I cannot have access to you tube now! in previous versions of ubuntu, by a right click i could simply find the "format" choice in the list, do you know why in this version this does not exist?
[16:35] <xxkoncyxx> any hungarian? :)
[16:35] <kylescottmcgill> michael_2: can you change the partition type in gparted? (out of curiosity)
[16:35] <xxkoncyxx> whats your problem with your pc?
[16:35] <Owiec> michael_2: test mode?
[16:36] <Owiec> michael_2: you mean "try ubuntu"?
[16:36] <xxkoncyxx> please write it and i'll help, if i can :)
[16:36] <jacklk> McPels: because the newer versions of Ubuntu suck
[16:36] <jacklk> :(
[16:36] <jacklk> It's true
[16:36] <michael_2> Owiec: Exactly
[16:36] <jacklk> McPels: Just search for a simple command online how to
[16:36] <kylescottmcgill> xxkoncyxx: you can install most Window Managers, or Desktop Managers, i have Awesome WM, and Gnome 3 running
[16:36] <michael_2> kylescottmcgill: You mean from ext2 to ext3 and such?
[16:36] <xxkoncyxx> ubuntu's problem is he unity..
[16:37] <michael_2> Unity is great.  :D
[16:37] <jacklk> McPels: ever since the introduction to unity it's lost many of it's features
[16:37] <kylescottmcgill> michael_2: nah, sorry i was meaning GPT to MBR, so the Partition Record Type
[16:37] <xxkoncyxx> and you can downloada parted linux with unetbootin
[16:37] <t2mahesh> i like Unity then gnome 3.4+
[16:38] <xxkoncyxx> i'm using lxde, 'cause i have an asus eee pc 701sd
[16:38] <McPels> jacklk: thank you
[16:38] <michael_2> kylescottmcgill: I don't think so, but I could be wrong.  I use system-config-lvm for most of my partitioning needs.
[16:38] <xxkoncyxx> for partitions you can use a Partition Magic or something like this
[16:39] <Owiec> michael_2: or mayby exist other way to install ubuntu? some other instalator, mayby in text mode usign other tool to disk?
[16:39] <kylescottmcgill> i see, i might have a look later, i want to change my partition type to MBR and try Classic BIOS on my Macbook... without bricking it
[16:39] <xxkoncyxx> write it to cd or cop to a bootable pendrive, and woala it works
[16:39] <jacklk> xxkoncyxx: On your ASUS Eee PC did you have any compatibility problems? Mine, and I've seen many others are really bad with linux
[16:40] <Owiec> michael_2: gparted see all partiations
[16:40] <Owiec> michael_2: and all is corect
[16:40] <xxkoncyxx> jacklk: i havent got an problem with lubuntu 10.04.. i use it in live mode now, i just installed. ubuntu 11 not works
[16:41] <jacklk> xxkoncyxx: ok
[16:41] <michael_2> Owiec: Does it say that any of them are LVM partitions?
[16:41] <xxkoncyxx> i want to install openbox or gnome to lubunu
[16:41] <xxkoncyxx> *lubuntu
[16:42] <Justice> hm for some reason unity webapps are not working with ubuntu
[16:42] <Justice> tried firefox and chromeium
[16:42] <jacklk> xxkoncyxx: How much RAM does it have?
[16:42] <Justice> but nothings aks about integration and nothing in sound panel
[16:42] <xxkoncyxx> 512Mb
[16:42] <Justice> any ideas?
[16:42] <Owiec> michael_2: i dont see any text info "LVM" in any coulumn in any partitions so i guess no
[16:42] <xxkoncyxx> i want to buy 1gb to it :)
[16:42] <kylescottmcgill> xxkoncyxx: you should be able to just sudo apt-get install openbox
[16:43] <xxkoncyxx> thanks :)
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> xxkoncyxx  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[16:43] <kylescottmcgill> also in your autostart file make sure you add gnome-keyring-daemon
[16:43] <michael_2> Owiec: I think you told me earlier that you already have a partition set aside for Ubuntu.  You could use GParted to format THAT partition as ext2 or something and then rerun the installer.
[16:43] <xxkoncyxx> i'm in live mode now
[16:44] <xxkoncyxx> but it worth a try to get information:D
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> xxkoncyxx  of what ubuntu version?
[16:44] <xxkoncyxx> lubuntu 10.04
[16:44] <kylescottmcgill> whats live mode.. is that the live cd?
[16:44] <auronandace> xxkoncyxx: lubuntu wasn't official at 10.04
[16:44] <Owiec> michael_2: ok i will try that, give me a 3 minuts. Yes i have parition for ubuntu but not formated before.
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> xxkoncyxx  it will soon be !eol, don't struggle with it, better use 12.04 or 12.10
[16:45] <xxkoncyxx> i tried, but it was too slow
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> xxkoncyxx  and the other is too old
[16:45] <michael_2> xxkoncyxx: Try Xubuntu
[16:45] <xxkoncyxx> live usb drive :)
[16:46] <F3Speech> Having a problem with my cifs network shares after extetended idle on server, is there any way to tell the server not to sleep/suspend etc. so when services go to access the shares they are always there. Thanks
[16:46] <xxkoncyxx> will it work? i mean it would be great to use it, but i want a fast os :)
[16:47] <jacklk> xxkoncyxx: Openbox is very fast
[16:47] <auronandace> xxkoncyxx: try lubuntu 12.04
[16:47] <jacklk> But it can be hard to get working nicely
[16:47] <xxkoncyxx> okay
[16:47] <jacklk> I've given up on it
[16:47] <jacklk> heh
[16:47] <xxkoncyxx> it worth a try
[16:48] <kylescottmcgill> xxkoncyxx: you should try ubuntu remix, or arch linux if you are looking for faster, but you should look at having at least 1GB of ram :)
[16:48] <xxkoncyxx> to update
[16:48] <xxkoncyxx> i have 512mb in it, but i want to expand itwhen i will have money for it
[16:48] <Hwkiller> arch won't be "faster"; if you need speed, use a different DE
[16:48] <Petaz> yes use e17
[16:48] <Hwkiller> I recommend xfce for a good balance of speed and features
[16:49] <xxkoncyxx> thanks :)
[16:49] <xxkoncyxx> i've never tried xfce
[16:49] <xxkoncyxx> only lxde
[16:49] <xxkoncyxx> and kde
[16:49] <Hwkiller> kde is good. I find lxde to be lacking compared to other DEs
[16:49] <xxkoncyxx> unity is not for me :D
[16:49] <Petaz> lxde is lighter that cface
[16:50] <Petaz> e17 is even lighter
[16:50] <xxkoncyxx> i'll think aboutit
[16:50] <Hwkiller> honestly, gnome-shell is lighter than compiz :p
[16:50] <xxkoncyxx> *about it
[16:50] <poq> Is any app to easily create multibbot cd from several images under ubuntu?
[16:50] <poq> multiboot*
[16:50] <Petaz> dont think ... just do it!
[16:50] <xxkoncyxx> thanks for helping me
[16:50] <xxkoncyxx> hy :D
[16:50] <xxkoncyxx> okay:D
[16:52] <Nekura> Hello, for some strange reason adduser --disabled-password --disabled-login <user>;sudo <user> is asking me for a password. I'm not accustomed to this, can anyone shed some light on why this is happening?
[16:53] <kylescottmcgill> sudo will still expect a password unless they are in the sudoers list as NOPASSWD
[16:53] <lovepenguin> hey all, i've got a touchscreen laptop (asus q200e) and i'm wondering if there's a touchscreen-focused ubuntu that will work with that model?
[16:54] <Nekura> kylescottmcgill: thanks.
[16:54] <gunknown> in nvidia-settings: this driver is activated but not currently in use
[16:54] <Owiec> michael_2: wow i have so sick situation. Linux in gparted show my partition as ext4 but in windows 7 i see this parition as NTFS
[16:54] <gunknown> what does this mean? Am i using the nuvou driver?
[16:55] <zwirc> Hi!
[16:55] <zwirc> trying to
[16:55] <zwirc> sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[16:55] <zwirc> what to do?
[16:55] <cuqa> you are not using it :p
[16:55] <zwirc> want to update my php to 5.4
[16:55] <Owiec> michael_2: and still i cant install ubuntu
[16:55] <zwirc> but when i do apt-get update i also get error
[16:55] <zwirc> got a clean 12.04 server
[16:55] <michael_2> Owiec: Windows doesn't recognize ext4
[16:55] <Owiec> michael_2: instalation gui dont see partition
[16:55] <cuqa> try sudo apt-get update
[16:56] <cuqa> or:  su -c "apt-get update"
[16:56] <zwirc> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/dists/precise/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[16:56] <Owiec> michael_2: any other way to install ubuntu?
[16:56] <zwirc> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:56] <milamber> zwirc: are you on a server installation?
[16:56] <zwirc> yea
[16:56] <bekks> cuqa: su will not wotk due to:
[16:56] <zwirc> 12.04 LTS
[16:56] <bekks> !root | cuqa
[16:56] <lovepenguin> Nobody knows anything on touchscreens and ubuntu?
[16:57] <milamber> zwirc: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties (that is the package that contains add-apt-repository)
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | lovepenguin
[16:57] <cuqa> you can also use ubuntu with root password and without sudo .. some providers do that to their vservers
[16:57] <cuqa> thats why im saying it
[16:57] <kylescottmcgill> zwirc: are you connected to the internet?>
[16:57] <zwirc> milamber: ok tnx will try
[16:57] <lovepenguin> MonkeyDust: I already asked the question above
[16:57] <zwirc> kylescottmcgill: yea
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> lovepenguin  better repeat it then, but not too often, this is a busy channel
[16:58] <michael_2> Owiec: Manual installation can be extremely difficult.  The only easy option is to use the installer.  Have you tried redownloading and reburning the install disk in case of a corrupt copy?
[16:58] <lovepenguin> I've got an Asus q200e and I need a touchscreen-compatible operating system, is Ubuntu ready for that use case?
[16:58] <kylescottmcgill> zwirc: also, if you are running gnome, i would open System Settings, Under packages or software there are some options, about mirrors, get Ubuntu to find the one you want, and then try to sudo apt-get update ;
[16:59] <Owiec> michael_2: no i didnt try, i think all is ok. I also found that problem in google but i didnt find the solution
[17:00] <Owiec> michael_2: i can install manualy, give hint to some documentation
[17:00] <cuqa> lovepenguin:  ubuntu offers you to try ubuntu without the need to install it. so you can try it out. just download latest ubuntu iso and get it on a stick
[17:01] <milamber> lovepenguin: you might want to look into kde plasma active also
[17:01] <dartos> Can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu running on a netbook with cedar trail? I can run the installer with the GUI but when it boots X fails to start
[17:01] <lovepenguin> I'll give it a shot - kde plasma looks interesting
[17:02] <michael_2> Owiec: I'm not aware of a resource for manual installation.  It would basically involve manually setting up GRUB, setting up your swap partition, and copying all the files manually.  Then you would have to manually configure everything.  It would be a very difficult process.
[17:02] <zwirc> tnx for help, got PHP 5.4 now =)
[17:02] <Owiec> michael_2: i dont see any other option
[17:03] <milamber> !yay | zwirc
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> michael_2: there is the minimal version of ubuntu, its like 30 MB, and then you can tasksel to get most things set up
[17:03] <lovepenguin> One other thing - can you install 32 bit ubuntu on a 64 bit compatible laptop?
[17:03] <wting> How do I forcefully shut down a program (xbmc) when my system is locked and I can't move the mouse?
[17:03] <lovepenguin> Just for compatibility I mean
[17:03] <milamber> lovepenguin: yes, and i would actually recommend it for a new user
[17:03] <wting> or, what's the Ubuntu equivalent of ctrl+alt+del?
[17:03] <lovepenguin> Thanks guys!
[17:03] <michael_2> Owiec: Check what kylescottmcgill just said.  That might be your best option.
[17:03] <dartos> wting: You mean task manager?
[17:04] <milamber> lovepenguin: depending on how much ram you have you may want to enable pae
[17:04] <dartos> wting: if you want to kill something that froze run xkill in the term and click on the frozen window
[17:04] <wting> dartos: I want to force quit a program that's not responding, through GUI so my mom can do it.
[17:04] <kylescottmcgill> Owiec: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD you can this out
[17:05] <dartos> wting: ah... if you hit alt-f2 then type in xkill it would still work... but thats all I got for ya
[17:05] <wting> dartos: Mouse was unresponsive, I could not bring up terminal. I had to drop to tty1 and use kill -9, but I need a mom-friendly method.
[17:05] <dartos> wting: alt-f2 then xkill
[17:05] <dartos> xkill is not hard to remember
[17:05] <kylescottmcgill> Owiec: http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel then you can install Desktop Enviroment, and sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop (if you want gnome)
[17:05] <dartos> and if she can remember ctrl-alt-del then she can get alt-f2
[17:06] <Random832> unless the keyboard is also unresponsive
[17:06] <dartos> Random832: then you reboot :P
[17:06] <wting> Perhaps, but the bigger issue is why does xbmc crashing lead to an unresponsive mouse / keyboard.
[17:06] <Random832> might have to restart the computer - it's _possible_ for a program on windows to get it wedged so that you can't start the task manager, too, just less likely
[17:06] <wting> i.e. why does a userspace program have the ability to halt X?
[17:06] <Random832> alternately, you could set up sshd, so that when your mom calls you you can fix it remotely
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> Teamviwer is great
[17:07] <wting> Random832: It's already set up, but you and I know that's a poor long-term solution.
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> for remote fixes
[17:07] <Owiec> michael_2, kylescottmcgill: ok thx, i will try that
[17:07] <mario_7> Is it possible to boot LiveCD on Dell desktop with Ubuntu preinstalled? When I try to do it, it somehow loads not the contents of CD, but contents of recovery partition in 'live mode'. This also happens when one choose Install Ubuntu - installer from recovery partiton loads and it does not allow to finish partitioning step because of partition from hd lready mounted. Recovery partition seems to be mounted in /cdrom. Any ideas how to avoi
[17:07] <mario_7> d such behavior?
[17:07] <Random832> wting: does she have two computers?
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> Owiec: good luck :) i have done lots of those setups so yell out if you get stuck
[17:07] <greyduck> howdy peeps
[17:07] <TheLordOfTime> mario_7, select what to boot from at BIOS.
[17:07] <wting> Random832: Yes.
[17:08] <Random832> you could set up a script that finds whatever program is taking up the cpu or whatever and kills it, and put an icon on the other computer that runs it
[17:08] <TheLordOfTime> mario_7, you may have to tell your system to boot from CD, rather than recovery.
[17:08] <wting> Random832: The other computer is Windows. T_T
[17:08] <wting> Trying to get her to try out Ubuntu.
[17:08] <Mir09> hi all
[17:08] <Random832> wting: i'm not sure what the problem is
[17:09] <mario_7> TheLordOfTime, pc boots from cd, when i choose LiveCD mode it does not load the CD but it loads system from recovery partition
[17:09] <cuqa> me neither
[17:09] <greyduck> hi Mir09
[17:09] <Random832> the script itself would reside on the ubuntu system, all you need on windows is to run a ssh command to start it
[17:09] <Owiec> hmm i have one question more: i see ubuntu has now option to save change in system in live usb. I need linux only to code in Ruby On Rails, so mayby it will work in that way on live usb? Or it is stupid idea?
[17:09] <dartos> is the cedarview-graphics-drivers package for ubuntu
[17:09] <Random832> mario_7: How exactly was TheLordOfTime's nick meant to be formatted in your last line?
[17:09] <Ubiquity> hello all
[17:09] <wting> Random832: There's no easy GUI way to kill programs, especially when X is frozen. On Windows, ctr+alt+del *always* works except in BSODs.
[17:09] <Nekura> kylescottmcgill: still no idea what's wrong with sudoers: http://pastebin.com/tSAf5exj
[17:10] <Ubiquity> I'm on my last big hurdle of a project
[17:10] <milamber> Owiec: it's not a bad idea, but persistent usb installs are not able to update kernel or the like
[17:10] <greyduck> this is way above me
[17:10] <Ubiquity> I need to enable wake on lan
[17:10] <Random832> wting: my point is, you write a script, in python or whatever, on ubuntu, to find the bad problem and kill it
[17:10] <greyduck> better look for ubuntu noobs
[17:10] <Random832> then you have an icon you click on the windows system to ssh into the ubuntu system and runs the script
[17:10] <Owiec> milamber: but what with performance?
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> lolol
[17:10] <Ubiquity> I've set it up in the bios
[17:10] <mario_7> Random832, huh?
[17:11] <Random832> mario_7: <mario_7> HTheLordOfTimeH, pc boots from cd, when i choose LiveCD mode...
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> Nekura: kyle ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:11] <Random832> i'm trying to figure out what those weird H's were supposed to be
[17:11] <milamber> Owiec: obviously there would be a performance decrease, and i would always recommend a full install of the linux
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> is the line you need
[17:11] <greyduck> tatty bye!
[17:11] <Random832> was it in like bold, italic, blinking rainbow sprinkles, or what?
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> Nekura: you also need to log out and login before this will work properly
[17:11] <Nekura> kylescottmcgill: ohhh. that'd help huh lol.
[17:11] <cuqa> so what Ubiquity? whats the problem
[17:11] <milamber> greyduck: this channel is for new user support
[17:11] <Nekura> thanks ;p
[17:11] <mario_7> Random832, I can see it properly, x-chat's fault?
[17:12] <kylescottmcgill> then after that you can sudo <command> and it wont ask you for your password... please be careful though, it is bad practise :)
[17:12] <Random832> mario_7: you can see _what_ properly, is my question
[17:12] <Ubiquity> cuqa: well, i have it set up in linux, as far as i can tell. And I have a program on windows to wake it up
[17:12] <TheLordOfTime> Random832, that's your end.
[17:12] <Ubiquity> cuqa: but it's not waking up
[17:12] <Random832> i have no way to know what it's supposed to be, _because_ i don't ...DAMMIT
[17:12] <TheLordOfTime> Random832, and not a question related directly to this channel.
[17:12] <Random832> I want to know what font the nick is in so that I know what that control character does, IS THAT SO HARD?
[17:12] <Random832> like ctrl-b does bold, ctrl-_ does underline, ctrl-c does color, what does ctrl-h doe
[17:13] <Random832> do*
[17:13] <Nekura> kylescottmcgill: no one else has access to my box. If I could just give it nopasswd without the ALL part that specifies command privileges ( or atleast i think it does) i'd be set
[17:13] <TheLordOfTime> Random832, which irc client
[17:13] <Random832> ....whatever mario_7 is using
[17:13] <mario_7> x-chat
[17:13] <Random832> all i want to know is what font the nick was supposed to be in
[17:13] <Nekura> I'm not familiar with the format of sudoers, so I will now become accustomed with man sudoers lol
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> Nekura: trust me, use that line as it is and replace kyle with your username, the all in those means all commands
[17:13] <mario_7> i see it as clear text
[17:13] <Nekura> cool, thanks.
[17:13] <Ubiquity> cuqa: i've set up ethtools
[17:13] <mario_7> and i didn;t add any formatting if you ask about it :P
[17:14] <Nekura> I put no doubt in you lol.
[17:14] <kylescottmcgill> Nekura: :)
[17:14] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[17:14] <cuqa> did you once try to wake it up manually?
[17:15] <DarkPrince946> Hello, anyone got any experience with nxserver?
[17:15] <bekks> !anyone | DarkPrince946
[17:15] <Ubiquity> cuqa: you mean, by pressing the power button
[17:15] <kylescottmcgill> Nekura: also, sudo su <user> is what you need too
[17:15] <Ubiquity> cuqa: yes, that works
[17:15] <cuqa> i mean by sending a magic packet
[17:15] <ska> I have a lot of old kernels in my grub.cfg file. Many are long gone. How do I fix/clean it?
[17:15] <bekks> kylescottmcgill: Wrong. HE needs to use sudo -i     --- sudo su is a bad idea
[17:15] <mario_7> TheLordOfTime, is it because of Ubuntu CD choosing to boot recovery partition insted of its own contents or rarther it's PC choice to boot revocery partition when it detects Ubuntu CD?
[17:15] <cuqa> or by  using wol by your router
[17:16] <LastRitesGames> hi, can anyone point me in the right direction for creating (for distributing) a package of software i wrote?
[17:16] <Ubiquity> cuqa: i have tried. I use WakeMeOnLan in Win7
[17:16] <kylescottmcgill> bekks: not if that user isnt root
[17:16] <Ubiquity> cuqa: the box is running ubuntu 12.04 server
[17:16] <cuqa> I think WOL does not have much things to do which os you use
[17:16] <kylescottmcgill> sudo -i will drop you into interactive sudo as root, sudo su will force you into that user
[17:17] <cuqa> u activated it in bios, right?
[17:17] <DarkPrince946> NXServer is disconnecting me with a Server configuration error, looking at the logs its getting a permission denied when it trys to create a directory.
[17:17] <DarkPrince946> I'm not quite sure what to do.
[17:17] <bekks> kylescottmcgill: without specifying a user, it will force you into the root user....
[17:17] <bekks> kylescottmcgill: So sudo .i is the better solution.
[17:17] <kylescottmcgill> bekks: the pastie has more info, he/she is adding a user, and trying to su into that user
[17:17] <kylescottmcgill> not root
[17:18] <Ubiquity> cuqa: i know. just giving as much info as possible. I'll try to wol from my router
[17:18] <mz`> explain diff between "sudo su - <user> -c [command]" and "sudo -i [command]"
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> sudo -i is going to use sudo interactively, su is to become that user, sudo su, is going to force yourself into the user, so the end results are different
[17:19] <dartos> Can someone please tell me how to get X working on a netbook with Cedar Trail?
[17:19] <alhirzel> I need to edit a .glade file that targets GTK 2.16, how can I install a really old version of Glade?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> mz`  #bash
[17:20] <bekks> dartos: Whats Cedar Trail?
[17:20] <dartos> bekks: chipset...
[17:20] <mz`> hahaaa
[17:20] <dartos> bekks: X won't start
[17:20] <auronandace> alhirzel: that would be problematic
[17:20] <dartos> It used to work but then NOPE
[17:20] <troop> while installing Tahoma i broke my ubuntu. now i cant login. actually login and logout same time and its not becoming only gdm. even console..
[17:20] <bekks> dartos: After youz changed what exactly?
[17:20] <troop> :)
[17:21] <dartos> bekks: the OS
[17:21] <dartos> bekks: from lubuntu 12.04 to fedora 17 and now back to lubuntu 12.04
[17:21] <dartos> and lubuntu no longer wants to startx
[17:21] <dartos> so it's a fresh install
[17:21] <bekks> dartos: So basically you have an Intel Atom with an integrated graphics chipset.
[17:21] <kylescottmcgill> troop: try jumping into TTY1 (ALT + CTRL + F1) login, and sudo service gdm restart
[17:22] <dartos> bekks: yeah my laptop is gateway lt4004u
[17:22] <kylescottmcgill> troop: or lightdm, which ever one your using
[17:22] <troop> kylescottmcgill,  as i said i cant login on tty too
[17:22] <mz`> missing devices in /dev
[17:22] <bekks> troop: did you set a password for that user?
[17:22] <mz`> use a live cd and chroot in your system disk, then debug
[17:22] <troop> yes bekks my identically user.
[17:24] <dartos> Does anyone know.. this is kind of urgent
[17:24] <troop> i ran this script and restart pc http://paste.org/59748
[17:24] <alhirzel> auronandace: I agree. I am finding a sufficiently old .deb and I am gonna try to force it.
[17:24] <troop> and now i cant login even on tty
[17:24] <cuqa> do you see bootloader?
[17:25] <auronandace> alhirzel: you will likely break something
[17:25] <dartos> dammt
[17:25] <troop> cuqa, me?
[17:25] <cuqa> yes
[17:25] <roadfish> want to drop reserved-blocks-percentage on ext4 from 5% to 1%. is a 3TB hdd holding large, static video files. is 1% a safe value? will I get bad behavior if I drop to 1%
[17:25] <alhirzel> auronandace: yep, I sure wish this project would just upgrade their files! =]
[17:25] <bekks> troop: Did you boot a live cd and checked wether you have a full disk?
[17:25] <troop> i can see everything.  i can see gdm login screen look im trying to telling you. ubuntu login normally but logout at the sametime.
[17:26] <troop> bekks no: fresh install on 250gb now im writing in live cd
[17:26] <troop> im saying my problem started with that script
[17:26] <blaz_> hi.... when i try ''vconfig add eth0 2''     i get    ''WARNING:  Could not open /proc/net/vlan/config.  Maybe you need to load the 8021q module, or maybe you are not using PROCFS??ERROR: trying to add VLAN #2 to IF -:eth0:-  error: Operation not permitted''
[17:26] <kylescottmcgill> troop: you tried a reboot i take it?
[17:26] <alhirzel> auronandace: hold the phone, i think glade-gtk2 will work. False alarm then!
[17:26] <troop> i tried tty too. writing my username and pass it welcomes me but logout at the sametime
[17:27] <troop> kylescottmcgill, yes
[17:27] <kylescottmcgill> nothing in that script looks wrong :s
[17:27] <troop> before this script i had installed mscorefonts
[17:28] <troop> i think there is a serious bug. because i cant login
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> troop: Can you log in on a console?
[17:28] <troop> i cant login from anywhere
[17:28] <blaz_> anyone
[17:28] <troop> jhutchins_wk,  no
[17:28] <kylescottmcgill> blaz_: try with sudo
[17:28] <troop> it log me in then logout again
[17:29] <ma_> hello everyone :)
[17:29] <cuqa> have you tried different users troop?
[17:29] <kylescottmcgill> troop: if you cant login via the console, you will need to chroot, and check your profile or something
[17:29] <troop> yes
[17:29] <troop> i tried guest user
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> troop: Is there more than one user on the system?
[17:29] <ma_> here comes the newbie who asks about every thing :D
[17:29] <blaz_> kylescottmcgill: so stupid of me :D... thanx... it works man :D:D
[17:29] <mariorgrossi> www.artigos.uni.me
[17:29] <mariorgrossi> My page can be in Portuguese (I'm Brazilian) but already put the option for English and German languages​​. Can register and start posting your articles and if they need a new category, please contact me by own site.
[17:29] <mariorgrossi> we will share our knowledge with the world.
[17:29] <FloodBot1> mariorgrossi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <mariorgrossi> www.artigos.uni.me
[17:29] <kylescottmcgill> blaz_: :)
[17:30] <troop> no jhutchins_wk  only my user and guest user which automatically created.
[17:30] <troop> how will i do kylescottmcgill  ?
[17:30] <Devilbird> Guys, i installed ubuntu with the windows installer, but when i restart i get the following message: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x7c78tb7jpyzwh9/2013-01-06%2018.23.08.jpg (dutch) i tried installing again but it does not help
[17:30] <jhutchins_wk> troop: Can you log in as the guest user?
[17:30] <troop> now i reach my system files
[17:30] <troop> jhutchins_wk, i cant login anykind
[17:31] <kylescottmcgill> troop: what do you mean you reached your system files? are in a livecd?
[17:31] <troop> yes im in a livecd
[17:31] <kylescottmcgill> troop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery <-- everything you would need is here if you can get to it
[17:32] <troop> i installed 12.10 then updated then installed infinality then installed mscorefonts then installed this script and boom.
[17:32] <troop> okay im reading kylescottmcgill
[17:32] <kylescottmcgill> you should just be able to sudo chroot /mnt
[17:32] <kylescottmcgill> after mounting it sorry
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> troop: Take a look at the logfiles, I'm betting they'll have a font error.
[17:33] <Zaki-Sama> Hi
[17:33] <troop> jhutchins_wk,  where are logfiles?
[17:33] <kylescottmcgill> /var/log
[17:33] <k1l> !guidelines > mariorgrossi
[17:33] <troop> ok im looking
[17:33] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Which is irrelevant when being unable to ven log in on a TTY.
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> troop: The fastest way to recover at this point would probably be to reinstall.
[17:34] <troop> reinstall ubuntu ?
[17:34] <bhavesh> I always get http://i.imgur.com/c4eDq.png  when I start empathy, any solution?
[17:34] <kylescottmcgill> bekks: it might have updated the alternatives and is trying to use one of those when he logins in via console, maybe... idk
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> troop: Since you don't have any investment of time on the current setup, yes.
[17:34] <kylescottmcgill> oone of those fonts
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> It could have broken the default font.
[17:35] <troop> Tahoma?
[17:35] <Zaki-Sama> Can i ask you something about the "Ubuntu for MOBILE" or should i go to a specific room ?
[17:35] <bekks> kylescottmcgill: On a regular tty, there are no different fonts, especially not ttf fonts like the ones that where installed.
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> troop: That's why I suggest looking a the log files.
[17:35] <xangua> !phone | Zaki-Sama
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Zaki-Sama  #ubuntu-phone
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Don't be too sure of that.
[17:35] <troop> a lot of log files here
[17:35] <bhavesh> I also checked "remember this choice for future connections" but still I get same thing
[17:35] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: I am 1000% sure about that.
[17:36] <troop> boot.log bootstrap.log dpkg.log kern.log fontconfig.log etc....
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: framebuffer.
[17:36] <troop> i will install again :D
[17:36] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Which is not in use by default on a tty-.
[17:36] <Zaki-Sama> xangua: MonkeyDust: thank you !!
[17:36] <nullby7e> how to run virtualbox needs some modules?
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: My uncle is the guy who developed the code to do text on a CRT.
[17:37] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Thats pretty cool for you, but still does not affect what I said above.
[17:37] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[17:37] <troop> jhutchins_wk,  kylescottmcgill  i think i found right log
[17:37] <troop> Jan  6 19:11:47 yigitPC login[1148]: pam_unix(login:session): session opened for user yigit by LOGIN(uid=0)
[17:37] <troop> Jan  6 19:11:47 yigitPC dbus[809]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=110 pid=1960 comm="/usr/lib/indicator-session/indicator-session-servi") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.15" (uid=0 pid=1184 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
[17:37] <FloodBot1> troop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Honestly, I am not even impressed now. :)
[17:37] <troop> sorry
[17:38] <kylescottmcgill> troop: why are you logging in as root?
[17:38] <alienaut> hello, i have general problem
[17:38] <kylescottmcgill> oh wait sorry
[17:38] <troop> i just loggin with `yigit`
[17:39] <kylescottmcgill> ya, sorry i saw uid=0 and just blabed
[17:39] <alienaut> i feel my ubuntu 12.10 a bit slow is it because it is not LTS ?
[17:39] <bekks> alienaut: No.
[17:39] <troop> alienaut: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[17:40] <alienaut> oh!
[17:40] <SnowmanX11> alienaut: no. It should be someting else
[17:40] <jallmorg> Can anyone help me with some problems with unity/compiz and opening the Dash?
[17:40] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Just explaining that I have an understanding of the evolution of on-screen fonts from things generated in firmware to modern software fonts - yes, on consoles.
[17:40] <kylescottmcgill> troop: ok i guess you have two choices, you can reinstall, or you can debug this... we might not win though
[17:40] <troop> i will reinstall
[17:40] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: The display you see on a modern PC console no longer comes from hardware on the graphics card.
[17:40] <kylescottmcgill> troop: :)
[17:40] <SnowmanX11> alienaut: use top or install htop and use them in the terminal to examine, which process slow down your machine
[17:40] <troop> i cant spend time.
[17:40] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: And still: Unless manually having configured a framebuffer, there is no framebuffer in use which would be able to render TTF fonts.
[17:41] <Ubiquity> cuqa: btw, thank you. I forgot to add a character to my /etc/network/interfaces lol
[17:41] <troop> and now im clicking to glory button :D
[17:41] <Ubiquity> i've been screwing with this system for 4 days
[17:41] <kylescottmcgill> jhutchins_wk: bekks im going to try this out by manually setfont inside a tty... brb
[17:41] <jallmorg> Ubuntu 12.04.1 When I open dash it runs slow and uses 100% of my GPU
[17:41] <Ubiquity> over 12 hours yesterday alone
[17:41] <myhe> hello
[17:41] <kylescottmcgill> i just need to find a ttf font
[17:42] <troop> anyone use Tahoma?
[17:42] <Ubiquity> and it's finally right...where...i...want...it
[17:42] <alienaut> i removed shop app and my unity looks like ok now
[17:42] <DarkPrince946> http://pastebin.com/DGaxL0kE Thats the errors I'm getting
[17:42] <mariorgrossi> algum brasileiro?
[17:42] <troop> alienaut, fine
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[17:42] <alienaut> SnowmanX11,  top is an application?
[17:42] <myhe> can someone help me with xen installation?  I did go step by step with this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen but when i check if it did install i get ERROR:  Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs!
[17:42] <mariorgrossi> valeu
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> myhe  ubuntu server?
[17:43] <myhe> no
[17:43] <myhe> desktop
[17:43] <troop> alienaut,  top shows you system resources i think task manager in console
[17:43] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: whats NZ Server?
[17:43] <kylescottmcgill> NZ**
[17:43] <kylescottmcgill> NX*****
[17:43] <DarkPrince946> NX?
[17:44] <kylescottmcgill> NXSERVER
[17:44] <myhe> the hypervisor is installed
[17:44] <DarkPrince946> Its a remote desktop tool I believe.
[17:44] <kylescottmcgill> ya in your log file
[17:44] <myhe> but it says its not running
[17:44] <myhe> as above
[17:45] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: are you doing anything special? like logging in? or remote D on to another machine or something
[17:45] <myhe> so any ideas?
[17:46] <DarkPrince946> Its a VPS, the program I need to use is GUI only.
[17:46] <troop> i want Tahoma
[17:46] <kylescottmcgill> myhe: do you have the hyper-visor running?
[17:46] <myhe> are the grub modify and toolstack commands on that site ?
[17:46] <troop> infinality windows7 setup and Tahoma
[17:47] <myhe> when i check it seems not
[17:47] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: ok, thats not going to really wont, you need to install Xserver and a bunch of other stuff
[17:47] <kylescottmcgill> work**
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> myhe  i guess xen is server technology, maybe you need other server services installed
[17:47] <alienaut> how can i understand if my graphic driver properly installed
[17:47] <DarkPrince946> What other stuff.
[17:47] <DarkPrince946> If you can give me a link that would help.
[17:48] <myhe> well im noob when it comes to linux and xen
[17:48] <myhe> when i check with sudo xm list it says he cant find it
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> myhe  start with the basics, xen is advanced
[17:48] <devlos> troop: here this might work http://panic83.livejournal.com/19679.html -but idk i havnt tried... a little google goes a long way tho
[17:48] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: Xorg, X11, ummm... i will see if can find a tutorial on setting ubuntu up as a RDP service, also are you sure you want to do this? it will have a significant impact on your server
[17:48] <mariorgrossi> There is a version of aptana studio 3 for ubuntu?
[17:48] <myhe> but when i try to install it again it says its installed
[17:48] <myhe> also i did not get any errors when changing grub
[17:49] <myhe> and toolstack
[17:49] <DarkPrince946> You sure that nx server isn't the right thing?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> myhe  why do you need xen, if you're a beginner?
[17:50] <myhe> want to learn it
[17:50] <linocisco> what is the best opensource software like AutoCAD?
[17:50] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: if this is a VPS, then it wont have Xorg installed, VPS normally have ssh access not RDP, this is an assumption, but installing a GUI on to a VPS isnt going to work right off the bat
[17:50] <ikonia> learn it when you have experience
[17:50] <Ronalds_M> hi, I have old PC 2,2 GHz AMD Athlon and I tried using lubuntu on it, but flash clearly doesn't works, is there any way to make linux usable on it?
[17:50] <linocisco> I would like to use it on Windows like QGIS which is powerful , opensource and can be installed on windows
[17:50] <myhe> sigh if you dont want to help please dont talk thank you
[17:50] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Anyway, it looks like it's moot, but it is possible to screw up a non-fb console by messing with the system fonts.
[17:50] <myhe> i jsut need help with installing it and running thats all
[17:51] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: could you RDP on to your server before installing this application?
[17:51] <myhe> just*
[17:51] <greyduck> hello everyone
[17:51] <ikonia> myhe: so basically you need help with all of it then
[17:51] <myhe> no
[17:51] <DarkPrince946> I could.
[17:51] <myhe> its first time i have problem installing xen in linux
[17:51] <ikonia> myhe: installing it and running it is %99 of xen
[17:51] <devlos> Ronalds_M,  xubuntu works on more of my old machines than lubuntu.
[17:51] <myhe> on fedora its painless
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Ronalds_M, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:51] <myhe> but i want it in ubuntu
[17:51] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: what is the software you tried to install?
[17:51] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Also, I have seen installations where the consoles DO default to framebuffer, with screens byond 40x80 and often graphical overlay.  If you don't see the boot messages, chances are this is the case.
[17:52] <DarkPrince946> nomachine
[17:52] <ikonia> myhe: so what's the problem ?
[17:52] <myhe> that it seems that its not running
[17:52] <Ronalds_M> I tried installing all kind of extras, it doesn't works, right now I have gnash but it's so slow
[17:52] <myhe> even if i did go with how to
[17:52] <ikonia> myhe: that's not really a good description
[17:52] <myhe> i did write what problem it is some time ago but wait ill do it again
[17:53] <Ronalds_M> my old PC has 700 mb of RAM, and nvidia 128 mb old one
[17:53] <myhe> so i did try to install xen on ubuntu from this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen should be easy peasy but something is wrong
[17:53] <myhe> i did install hypervisor
[17:53] <jhutchins_wk> Ronalds_M: Um, I don't understand how flash not working (normal) is a problem with the OS.\
[17:53] <myhe> i did change grub etc
[17:53] <myhe> rebooted pc
[17:53] <linocisco> what is the powerful opensource alternative to AutoCAD software?
[17:53] <myhe> then when i check if it works it says ERROR:  Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs!
[17:54] <myhe> that the problem
[17:54] <ikonia> so it's not booted the xen kernel then
[17:54] <ikonia> and the hypervisor isn't running
[17:54] <myhe> any idea how to fix that then?
[17:54] <ikonia> well, look at the kernel and look at the xen process list and see what's missing
[17:54] <jhutchins_wk> Ronalds_M: Whether gnash works depends mostly on what flash you're trying to display, most of what's on the 'net won't work.
[17:54] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: was there a guide you followed? that looks a little out of the box, i have never done anything like that, but basically your error messages are saying i cant start (respectively
[17:54] <myhe> i did figure that out thats why i did ask if the command on that site are correct for grub
[17:54] <daniel_> do i need to format my hard drive before setting up my server with it
[17:54] <jhutchins_wk> Ronalds_M: Did you try flash from adobe?
[17:54] <Ronalds_M> I have CD/RW disk, when I putted lubuntu on it, and tried to install, it took down windows xp in partitioning, so I installed Ubuntu, installed lubuntu packages and removed Ubuntu stuff
[17:54] <BluesKaj> Ronalds_M, ubuntu-restricted-extras isn't all kinds of extras , it contains what you need to play flash content
[17:55] <ikonia> myhe: sorry what ?
[17:55] <DarkPrince946> Not really, I just install the .deb's
[17:55] <Ronalds_M> so my linux is a mess now
[17:55] <BluesKaj> just install ir Ronalds_M
[17:55] <BluesKaj> it
[17:56] <myhe> in other way is this correct? sudo sed -i 's/GRUB_DEFAULT=.*\+/GRUB_DEFAULT="Xen 4.1-amd64"/' /etc/default/grub and sudo sed -i 's/TOOLSTACK=.*\+/TOOLSTACK="xm"/' /etc/default/xen
[17:56] <Ronalds_M> I installed restricted extras
[17:56] <Ronalds_M> nothing happens
[17:56] <Ronalds_M> flash doesn't work even on chrome
[17:56] <Ronalds_M> or chromiom
[17:56] <kylescottmcgill> DarkPrince946: follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NomachineNX
[17:56] <Ozzy> anybody knows how to deploy a qt creator project with a Ubuntu QML toolkit?
[17:57] <daniel_> Eclipse
[17:57] <abc-DE> at first sorry for my bad english. but i have a big problem. When I scan for channels in Kaffeine there are only channels in HD. What can I do that I can use channels wich are not in HD. I use DVB-S.
[17:57] <greyduck> thanks for the welcome folks, i'm orf
[17:58] <SnowmanX11> alienaut: top is a command in the terminal
[17:58] <maksim> hi, can someone help me with sound issue? I have Linux Mint 14 Mate for about a month or so and today sound started to glitch. I can't play mp3 file with Banshee, GnomeMPlayer, Rhytmbox and Audacity. it sounds like this 'h-h-h-h-h-h-e-e-e-e-e-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-o-o-o-o-o'. it repeats small sound chunks several times and moves on. I've tried 'pulseaudio -k' but without any luck. 'mv .pulse pulse_old' helped in some way, now sound works ok, but only for Banshee,
[17:58] <maksim>  GnomeMPlayer and Rhytmbox. but not for Audacity, the thing is I need especially Audacity. can anyone help me with this?
[17:59] <Ronalds_M> installing linux with cd/rw is alright?
[17:59] <lhavelund> !mint | maksim
[17:59] <troop> which nvidia driver do you recommend ?
[18:00] <lhavelund> maksim: they wlil be a lot more knowledable about the in-depth workings of mint.
[18:00] <maksim> I know this is ubuntu channel, but on linuxmint-help channel there is no support for this issue, as far as on #alsa and #pulseaudio
[18:00] <DarkPrince946> Still no worky.
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> Rondom: That's how it's usually done.
[18:00] <SnowmanX11> alienaut: just type to the command line: 'top' and you will get a monitoring tool, which shows the usage of memory/processor and monitoring online. Push CTRL+C to abort
[18:00] <Ubiquity> i'm trying to setup a static ip address, but I don't know what my "address netmask network broadcast gateway" values should be in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> Rondom: N'mind, missing nic.
[18:00] <troop> restarting
[18:00] <alienaut> SnowmanX11, thanks!
[18:00] <lhavelund> maksim: Those are the only three channels I could suggest being helpful, I'm afraid. If #linuxmint-help isn't helpful, and the upstream channels (#alsa, #pulseaudio) aren't useful either, you seem to be on your own. :(
[18:01] <Ubiquity> how can I find out what my "address netmask network broadcast gateway " values should be
[18:01] <greyduck> hi
[18:01] <ikonia> Ubiquity: ask your network administrator
[18:01] <Ubiquity> for configuring a static ip
[18:01] <SnowmanX11> alienaut: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/top.1.html
[18:01] <SnowmanX11> alienaut: your welcome
[18:02] <Ubiquity> ikonia: i am the network administrator. I'm jumping in head first and configuring my first server. This is the second to last hurdle
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: Do you have a working windows system?
[18:02] <Ubiquity> am on it right now
[18:02] <ikonia> Ubiquity: if you are the network administraot, you should know what your gateway device is, and what you network address ranges are
[18:02] <ikonia> Ubiquity: this is a basic requirement of running a network
[18:03] <devlos> Ubiquity,  try route -n
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: ipconfig /all should show you most of the required settings.  If you are behind a router that is doing DHCP you should be able to just tell the linux system "use dhcp".
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: If you're getting your current config from your ISP that should work as well.
[18:03] <devlos> route -n will show gateway
[18:04] <DarkPrince946> Same error
[18:04] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: see, i don't want to use dhcp for this server if i can help it. I'm trying to run WOL and I've configured it to run remotely
[18:04] <jhutchins_wk> DarkPrince946: As what?
[18:04] <alienaut> compiz is using %4.6 of memory is that normal?
[18:04] <compdoc> maksim, that happened to me and it turned out a usb device was causing it. But other hardware issues can cause it too. You have many usb devices, or have you added any devices to your system recently?
[18:04] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: thank you for the ipconfig help
[18:04] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: How are addresses on your network assigned now?  By a router?
[18:04] <DarkPrince946> jhutchins_wk: http://pastebin.com/DGaxL0kE
[18:05] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: It's usually a good idea for routers to be static, but you can also lock an addres to a MAC in dhcp.
[18:05] <compdoc>  maksim, btw, there is a bug in some kernel versions dealing with pulseaudio
[18:05] <maksim> I have only one usb device - mouse
[18:05] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: addresses are assigned by dhcp
[18:06] <maksim> and there wasn't a problem with it for last 5 years :)
[18:06] <nemos> I need help. What bios settins need to be set in order to try the linux livecd? I tried both ubuntu and centos and i get a freeze at the login screen, the keyboard and mouse clicks doesnt work. The graphics dies or something.
[18:06] <greyduck> where's the best room for a noob?
[18:06] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: i assume that's what you mean
[18:06] <Ubiquity> greyduck: a padded room far far away from here. just kidding
[18:07] <Ubiquity> greyduck: have you looked at the documentation for whatever ails you?
[18:07] <greyduck> cheers!
[18:07] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: So either set the dhcp server to assign a consistent address to that mac, or choose an unused address in the proper range, put it in a static config, and make sure you reserve that address on the dhcp server so it won't be assigned.
[18:07] <greyduck> duck fever
[18:07] <jhutchins_wk> greyduck: This one's not too bad.  Got a question?
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> greyduck  ask your question and see if someone can help
[18:08] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: i think i'll set my dhcp server to assign a consistent address. That sounds like it will solve two problems
[18:11] <burdickjp> Is there a gnu units lens for unity?
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: Believe me, I remember how frustrating it was when documentation said "ask your network administrator".  No I am one for real.
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> s/No/Now.
[18:14] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: it's also frustrating when people tell you you're supposed to know this stuff and you're just starting out
[18:14] <bogor> I am working on command line. How do i get to play mplayer in backgound. I am trying to listen to mp3 song while working.
[18:15] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: like it's an 'exclusive club and no girls/people that don't know things are allowed'
[18:15] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: you have been very helpful
[18:15] <bogor> using "mplayer fn.mp3 &" doesn;t work
[18:15] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: thank you very very much
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> Ubiquity: Hey, just paying forward the help I got.
[18:16] <Ubiquity> i'll have to do that one day
[18:17] <F3Speech> Anyone any ideas how to fix "CIFS VFS: Unexpected lookup error -112", happens after about 1-2 hours inactivity. Running server install 12.04 thinking it might be something to do with the servers power managment, just because it only happens after a large idle time?
[18:19] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: What's serving the cifs share?
[18:19] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: If it's server grade hardware, it's more likely an issue on the client, but I would guess network hardware somewhere in the link.
[18:21] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: buffalo nas is serving share
[18:22] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: and server hardware is old q6600
[18:22] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: Any outstanding software/firmware updates?
[18:23] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: server is using a tp-link wifi usb adaptor
[18:23] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: nafaif
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: wifi will do that.
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: THere's no way you can completely eliminate that kind of error with that kind of setup.
[18:23] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: why is it only after a long idle it happens?
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: Traffic helps keep the links active.  They're more likely to drop when idle.
[18:24] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: i thought is might be acpi related, powersaving on the usb or something
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: It's more the sensitivity of cifs to minor network errors.
[18:24] <F3Speech> jhut the server is processing all the time the network link should be idle that long tbh
[18:25] <F3Speech> shouldn't*
[18:25] <F3Speech> think i should maybe try with smb?
[18:25]  * SnowmanX11 is away: I'm busy.../Elfoglalt vagyok, ne zavarj!
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: if the share _is_ idle periodically it's a good idea to set it up with autofs so that it brings up a new connection whenever it's needed.
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: No significant difference.
[18:26] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: im still thinking its a power managment issue rather than protocol but atm i dont really 'know' anything :)
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> !away | SnowmanX11
[18:26]  * SnowmanX11 is back (gone 00:00:39)
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: If it were a power management issue, other connections would be affected.
[18:27] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: the whole server hangs, all the web services and python i have running lose network connection
[18:28] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: Ok, that's not what you origianlly reported.
[18:29] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk:  sorry let me be clear, when i say hangs it is still responding to a degree as it reports errors to screen, but refuses any network connections
[18:29] <cornfeed> good morning...I am trying to acpid to work with  my toshiba and i am about at my wits end...I have tried everything....I have a toshiba portege r835-p81 (laptop). I have acpid running and I can use acpi_listen to see that is catching events like changing screen brightness, but it doesn't *actually* do anything. I looked into fnfxd which is custom tailored to toshiba laptops but I cant find anything about its implimentation. has anyone worked with
[18:29] <cornfeed>  toshiba laptops and acpid??
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: dmesg or hald logs would be whre to look.
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: I would still say hardware is the most likely issue.
[18:29] <cornfeed> F3Speech: try a boot flag of acpi=off
[18:29] <cornfeed> F3Speech: i had the same issues...drove me nuts for a month
[18:30] <F3Speech> cornfeed: i did read that few hours ago
[18:30] <F3Speech> cornfeed: tried it and my usb wifi wouldnt connect
[18:30] <cornfeed> damn
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: What are the chances of getting an actual internal wifi card, or going to wired?
[18:31] <F3Speech> i want to find where the server sets stuff like blank screen and any idle conditions try turn them off
[18:32] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: none really... well actuall guess now its setup i could move it
[18:32] <cornfeed> F3Speech: hmmm you could try killing acpid
[18:33] <fego> hi all, any idea in which package i can find the "helvetica-medium" font?
[18:33] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: it has a internal card, i dont dont have the  cable available at my desk
[18:33] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: and i think my router is full, if i remember i think thats why i went wifi
[18:33] <F3Speech> jhut i guess i could give the server my lan cable and ill take the wifi lol
[18:34] <F3Speech> cornfeed: how would i do that
[18:34] <cornfeed> F3Speech: sudo service acpid stop (i think, i only use ubuntu in a few offices)
[18:34] <cornfeed> pretty sure though
[18:35] <cornfeed> then use "pidof acpid" to make sure
[18:35] <F3Speech> it seemed to stop ok
[18:36] <F3Speech> i dont have pidof installed
[18:36] <kelvinella> hi, can ubuntu be installed in macbook pro or macbook air?
[18:36] <F3Speech> network is still up so that a bonus
[18:36] <cornfeed> kelvinella: yes
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> !mac | kelvinella start here
[18:36] <kelvinella> because i am thinking to buy a laptop
[18:36] <Muphrid> fego: if helvetica is not free software then it isnt in any package, you have to download it manually
[18:36] <F3Speech> cornfeed: ill leave it alone see what happens
[18:36] <cornfeed> kelvinella: but from what I hear, its a pain
[18:37] <kelvinella> how painful?
[18:37] <stercor> How do I fix :connect to host xxxxxxxx port 22: No route to host?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> stercor  install openssh-server and/or openssh-client
[18:37] <devlos> stercor ssh??
[18:37] <kelvinella> which brand has the same laptop quality like the apple?
[18:38] <stercor> I wish to scp. It worked last night.
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> stercor  scp uses ssh too
[18:38] <kelvinella> i am thinking to get asus or thinkpad, but thinkpad is too ugly
[18:38] <devlos> asus
[18:38] <kelvinella> asus has so many model, dont know which one to choose from
[18:38] <F3Speech> kelvinella: i like asus
[18:38] <d1zzy> hi, this may e an FAQ although I'm unable to find an answer on the internet. I'm using 12.04, clean, no unstable packages, and I can't install all the deps needed by the steam beta client. I successfully installed ia32-libs but currently I'm unable to install zenity:i386
[18:39] <fego> hi all, any idea in which package i can find the "helvetica-medium" font?
[18:39] <d1zzy> its zenity-common:i386 for example can't be found by apt-get install for some reason
[18:39] <kelvinella> i dont know why asus has like 30 different models on their site
[18:40] <sonik> having problems disabling Ctrl to show mouse option, it's not in the "Mouse Settings" window on 12.10?
[18:40] <F3Speech> d1zzy : the package name is prob just zenity-common?
[18:40] <stercor> openssh-server and openssh-client are at newest versions at both ends
[18:41] <d1zzy> zenity-common works (it installs the amd64 version), but zenity-common:i386 doesn't (it's needed by zenity:i386 which is needed by the steam beta client)
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> stercor  then maybe it's blocked by iptables?
[18:41] <F3Speech> d1zzy: you have 64bit install?
[18:41] <d1zzy> yes
[18:41] <devlos> stector does the machine you are connecting to have them installes
[18:41] <stercor> It worked last night.
[18:41] <F3Speech> d1zzy: you might just have to add the 32bit repos then
[18:41] <stercor> devlos: latest versions
[18:42] <d1zzy> F3Speech: I think it should be part of the main repos already, as I was able to install many :i386 packages already with ia32-libs
[18:42] <d1zzy> F3Speech: are there any other repos to add?
[18:42] <stercor> MonkeyDust: it worked last night.  That's the reason I'm stumped... :-(
[18:42] <F3Speech> d1zzy: lemmi have a lookas i was planning to install this myself soon
[18:43] <d1zzy> thanks
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> stercor  i had that too, with my headless remote PC - restart of that PC was required, never solved the issue
[18:43] <d1zzy> I can find zenity-common:i386 in 12.04 on packages.ubuntu.com, not sure why it's not available with apt-get
[18:43] <F3Speech> d1zzy: is there a tutioral your following?
[18:44] <d1zzy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[18:44] <ofcan> how can I view command line history from a certain date?
[18:44] <d1zzy> lots of unsatisfied :i386 deps when you dpkg -i steam_latest.deb and I resolved most of them with apt-get install ia32-libs
[18:45] <F3Speech> d1zzy: this video tutorial is 2 days old might be worth a look http://revision3.com/osalt/install-steam-linux
[18:45] <milamber> stercor: are you trying to reach the same box from the same location? (i.e. at home, laptop to server)?
[18:46] <stercor> milamber: yes.  Netbook to desktop.  /etc/hosts has both machines.
[18:47] <stercor> MonkeyDust: did the restart work?
[18:47] <milamber> stercor: can you ping your local router from the netbook? and have you restarted the server at all?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> stercor  yes, but i found no way to prevent it
[18:48] <stercor> milamber: I can ping the router.  It looks like a restart might help.
[18:48]  * stercor goes to restart both machines.  brb
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> stercor  mind: the remote pc had debian running on it
[18:49] <milamber> stercor: you shouldn't have to
[18:49] <Eagleman> Where do you suggest placing important key and crt files for for example openvpn and apache2 ssl ??
[18:49] <milamber> stercor: have you verified the ip of the server?
[18:49] <d1zzy> F3Speech: is there a way to get a complete list of all packages (and their architectures) for the "main", "restricted", "universe", "multiverse" repos?
[18:50] <stercor> milamber: OK. Where to from here.  I'm on 12.10 and it reports internal errors.  That recommends a restart.
[18:50] <stercor> milamber: Yes, the addresses are good.  I even tried the IP addresses.
[18:50] <F3Speech> d1zzy: yes, where is is... maybe one of the more experianced members can remember
[18:51] <milamber> stercor: we'll need more details then, from what i gather you are trying to scp from a netbook to a home server behind a residential/home router/firewall and getting the error 'no route to host'    what are the internal errors you are talking about?
[18:51] <Eagleman> Where do you suggest placing important key and crt files for for example openvpn and apache2 ssl, currently i have them in each applications /etc/ folder but since they are also backupped by rsnapshot and then copied to a windows disk in a rar file, the key and crt files are accessible, which is not so secure
[18:51] <stercor> milamber: unrelated...
[18:52] <F3Speech> d1zzy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ here looks like a good start though
[18:53] <milamber> stercor: if you think you need to restart go ahead and do that
[18:53] <d1zzy> n
[18:53] <stercor> milamber: that seems heavy-handed, but it's the only option I see...
[18:54] <StormKing> hello all
[18:54] <StormKing> :)
[18:54] <milamber> stercor: what router is it and what command are you issuing (you can obviously remove specific ips)
[18:55] <StormKing> all
[18:55] <StormKing> u here guys
[18:55] <StormKing> ?
[18:55] <Greg8823> hello
[18:55] <StormKing> hello
[18:55] <StormKing> :)\
[18:55] <stercor> Restarting the netbook seems to have fixed the problem.
[18:56] <StormKing> Greg
[18:56] <StormKing> Greg8823
[18:56] <Greg8823> storm:Yes?
[18:56] <StormKing> i need to join next opration
[18:57] <StormKing> u know what channel
[18:57] <StormKing> ?
[18:57] <DJones> StormKing: This is Ubuntu support, do you have a support question?
[18:57] <devlos> stector, great!
[18:57] <Greg8823> Storm; Sorry but no i do not
[18:57] <Ubiquity> jhutchins_wk: you still around/awake?
[18:57] <Eagleman> Where do you suggest placing important key and crt files for for example openvpn and apache2 ssl, currently i have them in each applications /etc/ folder but since they are also backupped by rsnapshot and then copied to a windows disk in a rar file, the key and crt files are accessible, which is not so secure
[18:57] <StormKing> ok ty
[18:57] <ikonia> Eagleman: totally your call
[18:58] <StormKing> anyway
[18:58] <StormKing> im use now anonymouse -os
[18:58] <StormKing> :D
[18:58] <StormKing> any1 use it like me?
[18:58] <DJones> StormKing: Thats fine, but we only deal with ubuntu support questions here
[18:59] <StormKing> u use it Djones?:D
[18:59] <StormKing> or just me
[18:59] <ikonia> StormKing: you don't seem to grasp this, let me make it clear
[18:59] <ikonia> StormKing: this channel is for ubuntu support questions only
[18:59] <ikonia> StormKing: no other topics.
[18:59] <XRS1> StormKing:  take it to @ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <DJones> StormKing: This isn't a general chat channel
[18:59] <StormKing> ok sorry :)
[18:59] <desmond> hi
[18:59] <Andy80> does anyone know how to fix Spotify crashing under Ubuntu? I've explained my problem here in this comment http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/spotify-update-brings-linux-users-new-features-first#comment-757912503 thanks!
[19:00] <cub> why does linux sukk
[19:00] <cub> nothing works
[19:01] <Greg8823> Hello i am looking for some help i getting my sound up and running. I am running 12.04 that s fully updated. Nothing is muted and i am using a pair of headphones that have been confirmed working, any help would be appreciated.
[19:02] <Muphrid> Greg8823: what is the output of aplay -l ?
[19:02] <revickulous2001> cub: user error
[19:02] <ofcan> how can I view command line history from a certain date?
[19:03] <milamber> ofcan: not possible as far as i know, but all commands each user enters should be logged in their home directory in a "hidden" file .bash_history
[19:03] <Greg8823> Muphrid: a list of playback hardware devices
[19:04] <atlef> ofcan, have you set HISTTIMEFORMAT
[19:04] <Muphrid> Greg8823: do you have a different playback defaulted? like hdmi or s/pdif instead of analog?
[19:04] <atlef> if not i do not think it is possible
[19:04] <ofcan> atlef: nope
[19:05] <devlos> is opera not available in ubuntu??? not in repo?
[19:05] <Greg8823> Muphrid: no, not that i know of
[19:05] <yeats> devlos: not open source, so not included, no
[19:06] <yeats> devlos: see this http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/841/
[19:06] <devlos> oh. i like it though it is good>
[19:07] <cub> i upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 and now my display is messed up, how do i fix it
[19:07] <Greg8823> Muphrid: aplay does show a card 0. but it shows it twice and says one is analog (device 0) and digital (device 1)
[19:07] <devlos> great thanks yeats, thats what i was looking for>
[19:08] <Muphrid> Greg8823: which one is selected on sound settings? did sound work before and not anymore, or never worked?
[19:08] <Greg8823> Muphrid: no, it has never worked
[19:09] <Muphrid> Greg8823: what is your headphone model?
[19:09] <nicholas> have a question?
[19:09] <nicholas> what is the key for moving close button to left in gnome classic
[19:09] <DominikST95> hey folks, I have a strange bug in Skype...if I try to play sound through my speakers, it starts to cackle extremly...Any help(I guess it has something to do with pulseaudio)
[19:10] <Church> nicholas: imho it depends if you really have gnome classic or gnome fallback option
[19:10] <Greg8823> Muphrid: Digital is selected in sound settings and im using a pair of saitek GH30 headphones to test
[19:11] <Church> nicholas: as in in first case it might be somewhere in metacity options in control panel IIRC, in second .. maybe some gconf/dconf settings
[19:11] <nicholas> how do i find the difference. i did "apt-get install gnome-shell" and then gnome classic
[19:11] <Muphrid> Greg8823: you should select analog if you are connected to a headphone jack, digital is for hdmi or spdif
[19:11] <aberrant> hi all
[19:12] <DominikST95> hi
[19:12] <aberrant> where can I find instructions on how to upgrade a server from 10.04 to 12.10?
[19:12] <bekks> aberrant: You have to upgrade to 12.04 first, then to 12.10 - usually, on a server, you want to stay on LTS, aka 12.04
[19:12] <yeats> !upgrade | aberrant
[19:12] <aberrant> gotcha. Thank you.
[19:13] <mrg_> ok  i have a slight issue at mo, i followed this guide https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx and now my ubuntu loads to black screen (i have tried ctrl+shift+f1 to get console with no luck
[19:13] <kylescottmcgill> How do you install Ubuntu using the text based installer? According to Google, Ubuntu dropped support for the Alternate CD's for 12.10
[19:13] <Church> nicholas: try running gconf-editor, there key /apps/metacity/general/button_layout
[19:13] <Greg8823> Muphrid: i did and i tried both headphone jacks still neither works
[19:13] <aberrant> so I have to go 10.04 -> 11.04 -> 12.04 -> 12.10?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> !text | kylescottmcgill
[19:13] <mrg_> i tried root recovery terminal and to delete xconf ....but no file like that exists
[19:13] <Muphrid> Greg8823: what do you mean "both" jacks?
[19:13] <bekks> aberrant: No. 10.04 -> 12.04 as I said
[19:13] <Church> nicholas: eg. i have "close,minimize,maximize,menu:"
[19:13] <DominikST95> @aberrant You can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[19:13] <kylescottmcgill> ty MonkeyDust
[19:14] <aberrant> ok. Hm.
[19:14] <Muphrid> there is only one
[19:14] <mrg_> im using the live cd from my phone at mo but it has maybe 30 mins battery left and is not charging
[19:14] <Church> nicholas: as in all of them on the left
[19:14] <mrg_> so how do i rescue my ubuntu isntall?
[19:14] <Greg8823> Muphrid: The tower has a front and a rear heaphone jacks
[19:14] <nicholas> Church: i haven't a metacity option
[19:14] <Muphrid> Greg8823: ah, true
[19:14] <aberrant> so it's just update-manager-core and then do-release-upgrade?
[19:14] <aberrant> that is, install update-manager-core?
[19:15] <mrg_> sorry for the urgency but im stuck at work and as i say time limited
[19:15] <nicholas> Church: i'm using compiz on gnome-classic
[19:16] <atlef> mrg_, it's called xorg.conf maybe
[19:16] <Church> oh, then don't know. i always disabled all effects.
[19:16] <d1zzy> F3Speech: weird, I solved everything by doing this: dpkg -i steam_latest.deb (errors), apt-get install -f (installs some :i386 packages), and again dpkg -i steam_latest.deb which succeeds
[19:16] <Church> nicholas: try googling
[19:16] <mrg_> atlef theres no xorg.conf file
[19:17] <F3Speech> d1zzy: glad u got sorted :)
[19:17] <atlef> mrg_, in /etc/X11 ?
[19:17] <nicholas> have done that but i maybe have to do some more
[19:17] <milamber> !nomodeset | mrg_
[19:17] <Muphrid> Greg8823: do you have another headphone or sound device to test?
[19:18] <milamber> mrg_: the other option is hold right shift while grub is loading and boot the previous kernel
[19:18] <mrg_> ubottu the press e on the boot menu and replace quiet boot...tried that no luck
[19:19] <Greg8823> Muphrid: yeah i have another pair of headphones and a bluetooth speaker that is paired
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> mrg_  ubottu is a (ro)bot
[19:19] <mrg_> milamber i tried in the extended options to load an earlier kernal same issue
[19:19] <mrg_> oh ok
[19:19] <Greg8823> Muphrid: but the speaker is not on
[19:19] <Muphrid> Greg8823: so, they work?
[19:19] <milamber> mrg_: have you tried the nomodeset option?
[19:19] <mrg_> yes
[19:20] <mrg_> the process that i used aparently took me down a version of xsession
[19:20] <kslater> sweet, just got my fingerprint reader working again.
[19:20] <mrg_> to make it compatable with the ati legacy drivers
[19:20] <d1zzy> F3Speech: heh, on the first rean the steam client updates itself (without root), seems to be storing the updated version in ~/.local/share/Steam
[19:20] <mrg_> thats proberly whats the problem but its trying to fix it
[19:20] <Greg8823> Muphrid: yeah im able to use them both with my phone and get sound, but when i try to use it with the computer i get nothing
[19:21] <Greg8823> Mophrid: even if i use the exact same sound
[19:21] <mrg_> eeek my phones at 10% battery i may of been optermistic when i said i have 30 minutes
[19:22] <mrg_> ok can i install this xsession thing onto ubuntu from this live cd?
[19:22] <mrg_> or uninstall the fglrx thingy from inside this session?
[19:22] <Muphrid> Greg8823: do you have all the modules listed in 'lsmod | grep snd_hda' ?
[19:22] <sgonyea> How do I get in touch with Ubuntu package maintainers?
[19:22] <milamber> mrg_: can you get into the session?
[19:22] <yeats> sgonyea: look the package up on packages.ubuntu.com and email them
[19:22] <mrg_> its on the same laptop im running this livecd from if that helps
[19:23] <milamber> mrg_: if so you should remove the package you installed with apt-get remove (and i would say use the purge option), remove the ppa, then do an update/upgrade
[19:23] <Greg8823> Mophrid: how would i know if i have all of them?
[19:23] <mrg_> how do i link into the installed session from the live cd?
[19:23] <milamber> mrg_: it would be easier if you could get access to the box itself (even if you could get in via ssh)
[19:23] <yeats> sgonyea: though if you're reporting a problem it's better to file a bug report than to contact a maintainer directly
[19:24] <mrg_> (i only started using ubuntu yesterday)
[19:24] <cuqa>  /join #css
[19:24] <Muphrid> Greg8823: now check this to see what module it is using: lspci -v | grep -A 5 Audio
[19:24] <milamber> mrg_: then i would just do a clean install, copy any files you need to a separate flash drive and then reinstall
[19:24] <Muphrid> Greg8823: I have hdmi, realtek and intel
[19:25] <mrg_> not an option the live cd is running from my phone
[19:25] <mrg_> 9% battery left now
[19:25] <Guest68822> please help NO_PUBKEY AB6DA34B475A6B7F
[19:25] <sgonyea> yeats: The last bug on this package is over 9 months old and unanswered.  Probably better if I wake someone up
[19:25] <milamber> mrg_: not sure what you mean by that, if you have a livecd there should be an option to install the os
[19:25] <sgonyea> (or try to)
[19:26] <mrg_> milamber there is but its not a cd its a phone being used as a pendrive
[19:26] <yeats> sgonyea: don't be suprised if their response is "file a bug report" ;-)
[19:26] <mrg_> the phone is not charging attached to this for some reason and its battery is going down
[19:26] <milamber> mrg_: so why do you think you won't be able to reinstall?
[19:26] <bekks> Guest68822: Thats not a real problem but just a warning. You can fix it like: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com key-fingerprint
[19:26] <mrg_> not enough time
[19:26] <vlt> Hello. I want to add some kernel options to grub. Which file to edit on Ubuntu 12.04 with GRUB2?
[19:27] <mrg_> the battery will die before then
[19:27] <bekks> mrg_: Then you have a hardware problem which cannot be fixed by software.
[19:27] <n3mu5> thx bekks
[19:27] <milamber> mrg_: ah, and the computer isn't charging the phone battery?
[19:27] <atlef> milamber, because he is running the livecd from the sd card on his phone
[19:27] <mrg_> is there no way to link into the installed session from this live @cd@
[19:27] <Ubiquity> hi all, i'm trying to enable wake on lan. I need some troubleshooting
[19:27] <mrg_> and correct its not charging
[19:27] <Ubiquity> this thing is driving me crazy
[19:27] <bekks> mrg_: No.
[19:27] <mrg_> bugger
[19:28] <vlt> !enter | Ubiquity
[19:28] <bekks> mrg_: You cannot fix a broken cable (e.g.) with some software.
[19:28] <atlef> Ubiquity, is it enabled in the bios
[19:28] <Greg8823> mophrid: I have Intel, codec_Realtek, i dont have hdmi. also it said i have NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 high Definition audio (rev 2a) with the kernel driver in use being  snd_hda_intel
[19:28] <Ubiquity> aflef: i have enabled it in the bios. I have enabled it in ethtool
[19:28] <mrg_> bekks the ati card worked fine before i added the propertry drivers (fine but slow)
[19:29] <mrg_> the hardware is fine its the drivers that are the issue
[19:29] <bekks> mrg_: Which has nothing to do with your phone not being charged.
[19:29] <mrg_> i did this https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[19:29] <milamber> mrg_: what i am trying to tell you is that you need to gain access to the machine
[19:29] <mrg_> bekks i know, the phone not charging is merely adding time limit to me
[19:30] <milamber> mrg_: is the computer you borked a laptop or a desktop?
[19:30] <mrg_> im on the machine just as a live cd not as the installed version if that makes sense
[19:30] <Ubiquity> i'm looking at my router right now and i'm seeing a packet go to the wired connection of the box i want to turn on
[19:30] <mrg_> a laptop
[19:30] <rblst> hi folks, trying to get a Samsung SCX-3400F to scan (USB Id: 0x04E8 0x344F) under Ubuntu 12.10 64.bit; anyone has any experience with that?
[19:30] <mrg_> i have full access to it as im on it now but as a live cd
[19:30] <mrg_> the live cd is however installed on my phones memory card
[19:30] <mrg_> when the phone battery dies BLAM no acccess to the live cd
[19:31] <mrg_> hence my urgency
[19:31] <greyduck> Could anyone tell me how i might change the hostname in ubuntu 12.10 please
[19:31] <bekks> greyduck: Just user the command "hostname".
[19:31] <milamber> mrg_: do you have ssh-server installed on the laptop? and i think you should be trying to gain access to the console on the machine, not from the live cd
[19:31] <blackline> llutz, do you feel up for giving mounting my Popcorn Hour as a folder another try? :D
[19:32] <greyduck> i tried sudo gedit /etc/hostnam with noluck
[19:32] <mrg_> milamber its the same machine
[19:32] <bekks> greyduck: Use the command "hostname".
[19:32] <mrg_> the laptop im on is the one im trying to fix
[19:32] <bekks> greyduck: "sudo hostname mynewhostname"
[19:32] <greyduck> ok i'll try and thanks
[19:32] <mrg_> live cd works installed version does not
[19:33] <mrg_> is there a way to manualy reset the graphics drivers in the files?
[19:33] <mrg_> i have access to the installed versions /etc/X11/
[19:34] <mrg_> if i delete the contents will that force it to install default drivers?
[19:34] <milamber> mrg_: what i am telling you is that it is going to be easier to gain access to the laptop than try and fix this from a livecd. you installed a package that you don't know what files it affects. you should remove it with the package manager.
[19:35] <mrg_> but i cant get into the installed version of ubuntu
[19:35] <mrg_> the best i can do is the recovery and then root console
[19:35] <mrg_> but that wouldnt let me uninstall stuff
[19:36] <mrg_> low graphics mode wouldnt load either
[19:36] <mrg_> nomodeset no worked
[19:36] <Greg8823> mophrid: I have codec, Intel, codec_Realtek, i dont have hdmi. also it said i have NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 high Definition audio (rev 2a) with the kernel driver in use being  snd_hda_intel
[19:36] <mrg_> shift+ctrl+f1 wouldnt work on the black screen
[19:37] <mrg_> i was ok untill i tried to fix my slow graphics using a guide then it all went to pot
[19:37] <mrg_> is there a rollback service like with windows?
[19:37] <rblst> greyduck: hostname changes it for the current session, /etc/hostname changes it permanently, but you need a reboot for that, i believe
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> mrg_  you mean a downgrade, best not do it
[19:38] <mrg_> if i cant get this to work im looking at 5 and a half hours of nothing but a black screen
[19:39] <mrg_> so deleting the x11 folder wont force ubuntu to reinstall another copy
[19:39] <mrg_> what about copying the x11 folder from the livecd to the installed hd?
[19:40] <mrg_> it wont let me?
[19:40] <mrg_> arghhhhhhhhh
[19:41] <Greg8823> Muphrid: thanks for your help but i have to go. i will try again some other time.
[19:41] <mrg_> ok aparently the installed x11 folder is owned by root not me could that be the issue?
[19:42] <mrg_> guys?
[19:42] <bekks> mrg_: Everything in /etc/ is not owned by your user.
[19:43] <mrg_> is there a way to replace the /etc/x11 with that of the live cd?
[19:43] <mrg_> from what i can see that is where the graphics are controlled
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> mrg_  for anything outside /home, you need sudo
[19:43] <mrg_> ah so i can do it in terminal
[19:44] <yeats> mrg_: if I were you I would use a live CD/USB (not your dying phone) to back up your relevant files and reinstall
[19:45] <yeats> mrg_: I think you're in over your head and that would be better than all this urgency stuff
[19:45] <mrg_> if i was at home yeats i would agree
[19:45] <blackline> llutz, do you feel up for giving mounting my Popcorn Hour as a folder another try? :D
[19:45] <mrg_> but if i dont fix it im left with a shift from hell
[19:45] <mrg_> ok 4% battery
[19:46] <mrg_> think im gonna have to try to just install over the top of it while i still have the battery to do it
[19:46] <atlef> mrg, have you tried connecting the phone to one of the other usb ports, maybe the one you are using does not deliver enough power to charge
[19:47] <mrg_> when i get home im so putting windows back on here ubuntu is the most unfriendly  os i have ever used
[19:47] <__Alex_> Hello, could someone using Wubi post me his /boot/grub/grub.cfg in a pastebin? I'm interested to see how it works
[19:47] <mrg_> i mean the os not you guys btw
[19:47] <yeats> mrg_: probably not wise to judge the whole project from this one bad experience, but to each one's own
[19:48] <mrg_> all i did was try to install proper video drivers
[19:48] <mrg_> and the whole thing stopped working...its more then a bad experience
[19:48] <yeats> mrg_: I would advise purchasing an in-support video card
[19:49] <mrg_> cant replace the gfx of a laptop
[19:49] <bekks> mrg_: And I'd suggest to not use foreign software sources.
[19:49] <myersg> I need help getting a bluetooth headset to work
[19:49] <atlef> bekks, +1
[19:49] <myersg> It is connecting
[19:49] <myersg> but not plahing sound
[19:49] <__Alex_> Or can someone explain me in-depht how wubi works, and how I can make grub emulate a disk, not just saying "It emulates a disk"?
[19:49] <myersg> or the mic not working
[19:49] <mrg_> im attempting a reinstall
[19:50] <myersg> any help?
[19:50] <atlef> mrg, once again: have you tried connecting the phone to one of the other usb ports, maybe the one you are using does not deliver enough power to charge
[19:50] <myersg> I need help with a blue-tooth head set
[19:51] <d1zzy> F3Speech: cool, just played some Amnesia The Dark Descent on Linux from Steam :)
[19:51] <mrg_> if i unplug it then it will crash what im doing but ill try when it fails
[19:51] <madmax_x> #thepiratebay.org
[19:52] <mrg_> it seems to be reinstalling faster
[19:52] <atlef> mrg_, ok, it is just that i have experienced that certain usb ports on laptop does not deliver enogh power to charge
[19:52] <yeats> myersg: click on the volume icon and click Sound Settings
[19:52] <mrg_> which is good as im on 3% battery
[19:52] <myersg> Yeats
[19:52] <myersg> I did
[19:52] <yeats> myersg: then make sure it's using that device
[19:52] <mrg_> atlef you may be onto something i admit im hoping its that
[19:52] <myersg> it is and nothing
[19:53] <mrg_> i was told to use ubuntu as its gui is light wieght etc but so far its been really slugish
[19:53] <yeats> myersg: what do you mean by "nothing"? it's not showing as an available device?
[19:53] <myersg> it is
[19:53] <myersg> but no sound
[19:53] <mrg_> hence the trying to install the proper drivers for my amd
[19:53] <myersg> and no imput form the mic]
[19:53] <mrg_> ati even
[19:53] <yeats> mrg_: with an out of support ATI card, that would be expected
[19:54] <__Alex_> mrg_: Someone was seriously lying to you, Ubuntu has the most bloated GUI of all Live-CD based linux distros I know
[19:54] <mrg_> :(
[19:54] <mrg_> thats what the guide i used was spose to fix
[19:54] <mrg_> instead it killed my os
[19:54] <mrg_> alex i was on windows 8
[19:54] <mrg_> :(
[19:54] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_ : Does it work at all?
[19:54] <yeats> mrg_: with all those sorts of unofficial guides, your mileage may vary
[19:55] <mrg_> all i wanted to do was get better performance from minecraft lol
[19:55] <yeats> mrg_: especially if you're not that familiar with Ubuntu/Linux in the first place
[19:55] <myersg> so any help?
[19:55] <mrg_> im flashing on 1% battery till not done installing
[19:55] <atlef> mrg_, is this a machine that came with win8?
[19:56] <mrg_> .....if this was a film it should install by now
[19:56] <mrg_> no it came with vista
[19:56] <atlef> ok
[19:56] <mrg_> but i have win 8 at home
[19:56] <cuqa> with 1% you cant come far enough :p
[19:56] <mrg_> its an old laptop
[19:56] <yeats> myersg: you've done the "test sound" feature?
[19:56] <Sliker> myersg: all i can suggest is go inro alsamixer and unmute evrything. see if one gets sound on them
[19:56] <myersg> yes and no sound comes out
[19:56] <mrg_> it has a radion hd 4000 serise gfx card though
[19:57] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_: Coul dyou catch me up on the problem please? i may have a solution for you.
[19:57] <mrg_> i followerd this guide https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx thomas
[19:57] <mrg_> and then my os wouldnt boot
[19:57] <mrg_> shift + ctrl + f1 no work
[19:57] <mrg_> modeset thing no work
[19:57] <mrg_> recovery low graphics no work
[19:57] <debian-no0b__> I just installed `stud` (https://github.com/bumptech/stud) and it includes this `debian` folder. I don't really know much about debian, wondering if someone knows how I can add stud to `init.d` using these scripts.
[19:58] <atlef> mrg_, look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[19:59] <yeats> debian-no0b__: are you running Ubuntu?
[19:59] <yeats> debian-no0b__: I ask because I see that you are also asking in #debian
[19:59] <mrg_> atlef thats exactly my issue
[19:59] <atlef> mrg_, oh hehe
[19:59] <mrg_> and what happened to me
[19:59] <mrg_> i  think
[20:00] <debian-no0b__> yeats: yes
[20:00] <debian-no0b__> ubuntu
[20:00] <debian-no0b__> isnt ubuntu debian based?
[20:00] <mrg_> come on! downloading language packs what the hell!!!!
[20:00] <atlef> yes
[20:01] <yeats> debian-no0b__: yes, but they are very different projects and only ubuntu is supported here
[20:01] <mrg_> oh ....umm
[20:01] <mrg_> my phone is dead but im still here
[20:01] <mrg_> O.o
[20:01] <atlef> mrg_, magic
[20:02] <mrg_> but its the phones mmc im using for the live cd
[20:02] <mrg_> this ...shouldnt...be
[20:02] <debian-no0b__> yeats: do you have any tips?
[20:02] <atlef> mrg_, but it seems you need to install 12.04 ie. downgrade
[20:02] <mrg_> ok gift horse + mouth ...i aint looking
[20:02] <yeats> mrg_: live CD is running in RAM - installation will probably not work
[20:02] <mrg_> how do you downgrade from 12.10?
[20:03] <yeats> mrg_: there's no such thing as an actual downgrade
[20:03] <myersg> can someone point me to the linux mint IRC?
[20:03] <yeats> mrg_: you would install 12.04
[20:03] <atlef> mrg_, you need the 12.04 iso
[20:03] <yeats> myersg: you're on mint?
[20:03] <DJones> !mint | myersg
[20:03] <mrg_> ah crud
[20:03] <myersg> I am running both
[20:04] <yeats> debian-no0b__: those are debian packaging scripts
[20:04] <mrg_> though the install seems to be still working
[20:04] <yeats> mrg_: it may continue to work until it needs to read the "live CD" you had running on your phone
[20:04] <mrg_> if i can use it tonight even with just a browser ill be happy
[20:05] <mrg_> im wondering if the mmc needs power from the phone to read or if its just using the usb5 volts
[20:05] <mrg_> could explain why the phone wasnt charging
[20:05] <NuSuey> well.. I got this issue.. If I do TOO MUCH stuff on my Ubuntu (sometimes) it start freezing ( I hear the HDD, and the PC behaves like it got 100% CPU usage, mouse is unmovable..etc). Could this be because I have removed the swap partition, or what the hell could be the issue?
[20:05] <debian-no0b__> yeats: thank you
[20:06] <debian-no0b__> im guessing that translates to `cant be used`
[20:06] <mrg_> i got to go do a patrol with luck ill still be here when i get back
[20:06] <debian-no0b__> even though i do have a dpkg command
[20:06] <mrg_> if not, thanl you for the help guys
[20:06] <atlef> mrg_, np and good luck
[20:07] <NuSuey> anybody?
[20:07] <clint_> I'm trying to compile kernel 3.6.0.  I fetched the source using git, and switch branches using "git checkout -b temp Ubuntu-3.6.0-0.1"..However, when I build using "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs" I end up with 3.7.0 deb files...am I not checking out the branch code?
[20:07] <Sliker> that happens when you run out of RAM space, NuSuey. You need a swap partition if that's the case.
[20:07] <atlef> !anyone | NuSuey
[20:07] <NuSuey> :P
[20:08] <atlef> NuSuey, :-)
[20:08] <NuSuey> Sliker: well I guess I'm gonna try to create a swap partition and find out. but.. how big should it be? I have 4GB ram
[20:08] <atlef> NuSuey, then make it 4gb
[20:08] <yeats> debian-no0b__: not "can't be used" if you want to learn packaging
[20:08] <yeats> !packaging | debian-no0b__
[20:10] <ax> I'd like to be able to switch between propreitary video driver [nvidia] and the open source driver, reguarily, does anyone have info on somethingl ike this?
[20:11] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_: If you were to do a fresh install of 12.04, you should be fine. but from what ive read on here, you only have a live CD for 12.10, correct?
 i got to go do a patrol with luck ill still be here when i get back
[20:12] <NuSuey> atlef: so It won't help to make it bigger, it just moves the stuff from the ram and back..there? :)
[20:12] <atlef> ThomasCorwin, he gone, but will most certanly come back
[20:13] <ThomasCorwin> atlef: oh. whoops.
[20:13] <Sliker> NuSuey: yup, but on linux if you run out of ram, high memory users start getting automatically force-quit. Better than nothing.
[20:13] <NuSuey> Sliker: yeah, but I'm not sure if this will help .. but.. will have to see :)
[20:18] <obert> is it normal that dolphin doesnt shows .htaccess?
[20:18] <mrg_> ooo im still here cool
[20:19] <mrg_> and install is still going
[20:19] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_: As i tried to tell you while you were gone, If you were to do a fresh install of 12.04, you should be fine. but from what ive read on here, you only have a live CD for 12.10, correct?
[20:19] <mrg_> yep only of 12.10
[20:20] <devstefano> hi all, I have some idea for some program of ubuntu, but I am not able to fix them by myself. Where should I write my idea and maybe see if I can help a bit? thanks
[20:21] <mrg_> but  thats kinda double dutch to me
[20:21] <mrg_> i know xsession is the gfx stuff
[20:21] <mrg_> from what i saw its something called xsession of gnome thats too new
[20:21] <mrg_> but gnome to me is a garden ornimant
[20:21] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_: if you were planning on downgrading to 12.04, you couldve ran the LiveCD, then opened Firefox,  Then downloaded the 12.04 ISO Image to a flash drive, then lastly unpack the ISO onto a CD.
[20:22] <mrg_> thomas i may try that when i get home
[20:22] <mrg_> or go back to windows
[20:23] <ThomasCorwin> okay. I will find a link for you if i can (for the Ubuntu 12.04) and do you habe the media CD for Windows 8?
[20:23] <ThomasCorwin> have8
[20:23] <ThomasCorwin> have*
[20:24] <mrg_> at mo the installer is reinstalling prevously installed packages...ah great its gonna reinstall the fgl thing aint it
[20:24] <mrg_> i have the win 8 cd at home yes (well upgrade disc)
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> mrg_  what was your initial issue, when you came here?
[20:25] <manners13> hey guys having real big problems trying to remove a package which has somehow got corrupt
[20:25] <mrg_> i will proberly need to restore my laptop to vista, locate my win 7 disc update then use the win8 update disc
[20:25] <yeats> mrg_: don't worry about the "previously installed" messages
[20:25] <yeats> mrg_: the live CD doesn't know about anything you did after you installed ;-)
[20:25] <mrg_> monkeydust i did this https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[20:25] <mrg_> and broke ubuntu
[20:25] <manners13> http://pastebin.com/ZfBALb7R even when forcing it im still having no joy can anyone help
[20:26] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_: you can install windows 8 from Vista.
[20:26] <ThomasCorwin> via the Update Disk
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> mrg_  and you tried to repair that from some mobile device?
[20:26] <mrg_> ah cool
[20:26] <mrg_> yes
[20:26] <mrg_> my live cd is on my phones mmc
[20:27] <mrg_> my phone thats now dead battery
[20:27] <mrg_> and yet the mmc the live cd is still working
[20:27] <ThomasCorwin> I did that too! its on an iPod though.
[20:27] <riderplus> I'm opening a pdf file from the internet. I try to save it on local disk and I get "permission denied"
[20:28] <riderplus> why?
[20:28] <mrg_> i thought when i installed ubuntu yesterday if it ever fails i`ll know i have it on my phone
[20:28] <bekks> riderplus: Maybe because you dont have permissions to save something in the path where you want to save it.
[20:28] <riderplus> I tried on all paths...same error message
[20:28] <ThomasCorwin> rider plus: make sure you are on an administative account and try to save it to the desktop.
[20:28] <ekik> riderplus: Are you saving it in your home folder, or somewhere else?
[20:29] <riderplus> yes in my home folder
[20:29] <ThomasCorwin> mrg_: same thought.
[20:29] <ekik> Hmm, weird..
[20:29] <ekik> Could you please do: ls -ld ~
[20:29] <blargg> What do I press to run memtest86 on an Ubuntu 12.04 livecd? I've found several conflicting answers and none have worked.
[20:29] <ekik> And paste the output here
[20:30] <mrg_> att this point i dare not unplug the phones usb
[20:30] <mrg_> 3g wifi dongle is the next to fail though if im not careful
[20:30] <riderplus> drwxr-xr-x 50 myuser myuser 4096 Jan  6 22:24 /home/myuser
[20:31] <ekik> ...looks correct to me
[20:31] <ekik> ...haven't got a clue then I'm afraid
[20:31] <mrg_> its that ...is it in ram or is the mmc getting enough power to be used lol
[20:31] <jamin> blargg, during initial boot you need to press a key during the splash screen with a circle and keyboard the bottom... then you should get a menu that will allow you to select memtest
[20:31] <ThomasCorwin> manners13: you should reinstall the package by putting sudo apt-get install bacula-sd     Then, uninstall the package with the basic removal code line: sudo apt-get remove bacula-sd
[20:31] <riderplus> wait...it works on my home folder
[20:31] <mrg_> oh gnome is the shell
[20:32] <riderplus> it doesn't work on the other disk
[20:32] <riderplus> that one has the following
[20:32] <mrg_> is that swapable with one thats not as pretty/ram cpu hungry?
[20:32] <riderplus> drwx---rw- 17 myuser root 12288 Jan  6 19:22 /media/Free
[20:32] <mrg_> like windows aero to windows clasic
[20:33] <ekik> riderplus: Ok, that makes sense.
[20:33] <riderplus> so what should I do?
[20:33] <manners13> dpkg: error processing bacula-sd (--configure):
[20:33] <manners13>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[20:33] <manners13>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[20:33] <dino5> hi please Im on a live cd I want to fix my mbr to original state by terminal
[20:33] <manners13> how can i fis this cause im stuck lol
[20:33] <manners13> fis/fix
[20:34] <riderplus> I have already tried chown
[20:34] <ThomasCorwin> manners13: you should reinstall the package by putting sudo apt-get install bacula-sd     Then, uninstall the package with the basic removal code line: sudo apt-get remove bacula-s
[20:35] <riderplus> ekik?
[20:35] <ThomasCorwin> bacula-sd
[20:35] <manners13> i get the same error
[20:35] <ekik> riderplus: Could you please run: mount | grep Free
[20:35] <ekik> ..and paste the output
[20:35] <riderplus> ok
[20:35] <anli_> When I try to use synaptic to install librsvg, I get an error message with some lines like "Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not going to be installed", what does it take to make synaptic actually install those dependencies?
[20:36] <bekks> ekik: That will return nothing.
[20:36] <blackline> Guys. Anyone up for trying to help me mounting a share on my media center to a folder on my Ubuntu 12.10 machine? :D
[20:36] <riderplus> /dev/sda6 on /media/Free type ext4 (rw)
[20:36] <ekik> riderplus: Ok...mounted as rw at least...that's good
[20:36] <manners13> it seems likethis package is in use somewhere i cant install or remove
[20:37] <bekks> ekik: Ok, now I am astonished :P
[20:37] <ekik> bekks: :)
[20:37] <manners13> all instances of it as far as i can tell have stopped
[20:37] <riderplus> so why it's impossible to save an opened pdf file in evince to that location?
[20:37] <bekks> manners13: Try sudo apt-get -f install
[20:37] <ekik> riderplus: I don't know really...my last restort would be to do a chown -R myuser:myser /media/Free
[20:38] <riderplus> ok
[20:38] <mrg_> ah ok i think i see one issue i had, the performance im using something called unity dash im guessing gnome is older and more resource friendly
[20:38] <ekik> riderplus: Will recursively change ownership of all the files and directories to myuser
[20:38] <mrg_> is there a way to swap them?
[20:38] <JoshuaP> I deleted everything that had to do with apache2 after I removed apache2. Now when I reinstalled it, none of it came back. How can I fix this?
[20:38] <bekks> manners13: pastebin the output of ls -lha /media/ please
[20:39] <Alabaster_W> i switched network interfaces (from eth0 to eth1) and I am having connection troubles (obv on another box)
[20:39] <cornfeed> i feel silly asking this, but how do i stop a service from starting at boot? for example acpid?
[20:39] <manners13> http://pastebin.com/NqH3khwf
[20:40] <riderplus> ekik I still get Error opening file /media/Free/Documents/filename: Permission denied
[20:40] <tremby1> hello. i recently updated my home server to 12.04.1. it now fails intermittently -- some services stay running (firewall, ip masquerading, first page of any set of http requests(?) ack of sshd but not full login) and others fail (dhcpd). i then can't log in to it directly either -- when trying to do that i get a general protection fault http://i.imgur.com/tgEqQ.jpg
[20:40] <tremby1> if i watch long enough other GPFs will appear, such as for apache2, and i've seen one for "head" too
[20:40] <mrg_> and my install may of crashed its still "restoring prevously installed packages"
[20:40] <tremby1> any idea what's going on? i need to hard reset when it gets into this state, then it's fine for a little while and then it happens again
[20:41] <ekik> riderplus: Hmm, please read through this article then: http://superuser.com/questions/196653/how-do-i-manually-mount-a-linux-file-system-read-write-as-a-normal-user
[20:41] <ekik> That might be your problem
[20:41] <ThomasCorwin> cornfeed: Click on the Shutdown/Settings button on the Top Bar. Then Click: Startup Applications.
[20:42] <ekik> riderplus: Sorry I cound'nt be of more help
[20:42] <manners13> what do you think bekks
[20:42] <bekks> manners13: Sorry, that was for riderplus :)
[20:43] <bekks> riderplus: : pastebin the output of ls -lha /media/ please
[20:43] <manners13> y
[20:43] <manners13> sorry wrong place
[20:43] <anli_> Is this a kernel issue? Depends: libpng12-0 (=1.2.44-1ubuntu3) but 1.2.44-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[20:43] <jamin> is there a general way to inhibit volume automounting for a period of time?  I've searched and found the commands for udisks but that doesn't seem to have the desired affect as many volumes still get mounted (I suspect this is due to udisks2)
[20:43] <manners13> how can i get rid of the broken package
[20:43] <bekks> anli_: No. Thats just a dependency problem.
[20:43] <anli_> But what does the problem depend on?
[20:43] <k1l> anli_: i would check the PPAs you got activated
[20:44] <bekks> manners13: Did you run sudo apt-get -f install ?
[20:44] <manners13> yup i get the same error
[20:45] <bekks> manners13: Could you pastebin the entire output please?
[20:45] <cornfeed> ThomasCorwin: i prefer CLI. i found something about update-rc.d
[20:46] <manners13> dont worry think iv sorted it
[20:46] <anli_> apt-get -f install librsvg2-dev should forcefully install librsvg2-dev ?
[20:46] <manners13> will find out in a few mins
[20:46] <anli_> It did not
[20:46] <k1l> anli_: do you have PPAs activated?
[20:46] <anli_> k1l, How do I see if I have?
[20:46] <yeats> anli_: try 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get -f install' again
[20:47] <BluesKaj> anli_, just  apt-get -f install , without any package name
[20:47] <k1l> anli_: pastbin a "sudo apt-get update" and a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[20:47] <anli_> Should I give the package name I want to install as well?
[20:47] <yeats> anli_: do 'apt-cache policy libpng12-0'
[20:48] <anli_> yeats: http://pastebin.com/zpPn6W40
[20:48] <BluesKaj> too many cooks
[20:49] <yeats> !natty | anli_
[20:49] <k1l> natty? :/
[20:49] <anuvrat> I am setting up raid, what should I do with /boot/efi?
[20:49] <anli_> Its so strange that linux systems from around 1998 was so long living then
[20:49] <anli_> You could actually have one for a while
[20:49] <anli_> Until the computer broke
[20:49] <yeats> anli_: you'll need to upgrade to at least 11.10
[20:50] <anli_> ok
[20:50] <k1l> anli_: if you want a long lasting system got with the LTS versions of ubuntu
[20:50] <anli_> I want a forever lasting one :)
[20:50] <k1l> anli_: 11.04 was no LTS version
[20:50] <anli_> Is my system even upgradable?
[20:51] <k1l> !eolupgrade | anli_
[20:51] <k1l> anli_: you should upgrade to 12.04 (with step to 11.10 and then to 12.04) and can stay there for 5 years for support
[20:52] <jamin> k1l, that's really only viable if the item in question is a server... 5 years for a desktop is too long... software becomes too old...
[20:52] <slide> Does anyone know of a way to install ubuntu onto a harddrive partition from inside windows? (I have no CD/DVDs to burn a copy)
[20:52] <Alabaster_W> i can't get eth1 configured
[20:52] <slide> I suppose i could use a flash drive hrm
[20:53] <jamin> slide, yea use a USB thumbdrive or similar
[20:53] <atlef> slide, use a flashdrive
[20:53] <k1l> jamin: lts desktop becomes 5 sears support. if the user wants it he can have it. like you can read the user here doesnt want to have the newest software
[20:53] <anli_> So the reason synaptic is not working is because I want to keep my system? :)
[20:53] <anli_> It would be nice if I could still upgrade, it was possible before that date
[20:54] <anli_> Why isnt it possible any longer?
[20:54] <k1l> anli_: did you read what the bot told you?
[20:54] <yeats> anli_: read the link k1l shared
[20:54] <jamin> k1l, that's fine in theory... and yes, the LTS does get supported that long... however, then there's reality... the world around us moves too fast for a 5 year old desktop
[20:55] <Owiec> is it possible to install ubuntu with chroot? copy data to paritation, chroot to this parition and install system? default instalator doesnt work for me.
[20:55] <mrg_> damn it i need to use my phone soon
[20:55] <Owiec> *parition
[20:56] <mrg_> ok im gonna risk moving the usb ..wish luck
[20:56] <Alabaster_W> so I removed my (eth0) nic and now i'm using my onboard (eth1) card. Attempting to restart networking  fails to bring up eth1
[20:56] <yeats> !install | Owiec
[20:56] <Alabaster_W> ifup doens't bring up eth1 either
[20:57] <anli_> I like the link k1l shared, it told me which date the support ended, it did not tell why however
[20:57] <jamin> Alabaster_W, does ifconfig see it "ifconfig -a"?
[20:58] <vianna_> Boa tarde pessoal
[20:58] <k1l> anli_: read the message again. you missed half the part
[20:58] <anli_> k1l: Sorry then
[21:01] <Alabaster_W> jamin: yes, eth1 is seen on ifconfig -a
[21:01] <anli_> k1l: Which message btw?
[21:01] <jamin> Alabaster_W, and what about "sudo dhclient eth1"?
[21:01] <yeats> !eolupgrade | anli_ - once again:
[21:02] <k1l> anli_: *sigh* its not gonna work if you wont concentrate on what you are doing and what people say in here to you.
[21:03] <anli_> I must be stupid, you give me two links, and I dont find the information you tell me is in there
[21:03] <aberrant> how do I update my repo list so I can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04? My hosting company is using their own internal ones that don't have precise on them.
[21:04] <IdleOne> anli_: Why did the Ford motor company stop providing parts for the Model T ?
[21:04] <Alabaster_W> jamin: it's processing, one moment
[21:04] <jsmith_> can someone provide me with a link to a idiots guide to using IRC?
[21:04] <Alabaster_W> jamin: probably more like 60+ moments
[21:04] <jamin> anli_, doesn't help when people are rude to you... in short... nothing can be supported indefinitely... a decision has to be made on when to end support...
[21:04] <sophusn> jsmith_, http://google.com
[21:05] <blargg> jamin, I'm not seeing the circle and keyboard before the livecd boots. It goes directly to the Ubuntu .... screen.
[21:05] <anli_> jamin: As I see it, files are removed to actively make support stop
[21:05] <jamin> blargg, tap a key during the boot process repeatedly (twice a second or so) see if that interrupts the process for you
[21:06] <BluesKaj> aberrant, upgrading by editing the sources.list is dangerous
[21:06] <jamin> anli_, no... updates just stop happening...
[21:06] <velko> !google > velko
[21:06] <jamin> at another point, they relocate the archive...
[21:06] <anli_> Instead of making it bigger, yeah
[21:07] <Alabaster_W> aberrant: honestly, I would just do a fresh install
[21:07] <dpurgert> blargg --  F2, F8, del, or F12 (depending on BIOS) will get you to your boot menu...
[21:07] <anli_> IdleOne: I dont know
[21:07] <jamin> dpurgert, he's looking for the menu from the LiveCD
[21:08] <dpurgert> missed that bit -- thought he wasn't able to boot from the live CD (i.e. boot from hdd was first)
[21:08] <iuntyrz> how to
[21:09] <iuntyrz> remove ubuntu desktop
[21:09] <iuntyrz> on top left
[21:09] <iuntyrz> with unity
[21:09] <Alabaster_W> jamin: sudo dhclient eth1 returned nothing
[21:09] <aberrant> Alabaster_W: I can't do a fresh install.
[21:09] <Alabaster_W> jamin: and it took awhile
[21:09] <jamin> no output of any kind?
[21:09] <iuntyrz> how to remove ubuntu desktop title on top left with unity, hi ppl
[21:09] <iuntyrz> cuz I hate the heavy text branding of ubuntu
[21:10] <atlef> !b43
[21:10] <BluesKaj> aberrant, check this out , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS
[21:12] <stefan_> hi; i use ubuntu 12.10 and my sound does not work. I have tried everything in the troubleshooting guide, have followed various alsamixer tutorials, etc. but nothing has worked... i'm using the front sound port on a custom built 32bit comp
[21:12] <dpurgert> stefan -- what sound card is in the computer?  generic realtec or something?
[21:12] <stefan_> dpurgert: hda intel or cpimi or something
[21:13] <Fonsie> how do i simply uninstall lubuntu from my system, its duel booted with windows
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: how did you install it?
[21:13] <Fonsie> booted from usb drive
[21:13] <dpurgert> have you tried the ports on the rear?
[21:13] <stefan_> dpurgert: no, but the comp is on a rack, so i can't really...
[21:13] <k1l> Fonsie: bootup a live-system and remove the partitions, boot the windows cd and repair the bootloader
[21:14] <dpurgert> bwah?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: then delete the Ubuntu partitions in WIndows, you will need to reinstate the Windows boot loader using your Windows CD (or if there is a method in Windows, do that)
[21:14] <blargg> jamin, if I hold shift, I get a "load boot graphics" prompt, and N gives me a boot: prompt. Any way to run memtest86 from that?
[21:14] <stefan_> dpurgert: i can't get to the back without removing the computer from the rack, which is a hassle
[21:14] <magik_> One question,  Do I need to chown the folder to the group that I want to have access to it as well as share it through nautilus.  Because I've gotten to where I enter the password and it says I still dont have permissions to access.
[21:14] <Fonsie> i dont have a windows boot cd, computer did not come with one
[21:14] <Alabaster_W> jamin: no output of any kind whatsoever
[21:14] <ikla_> ubuntu is so awesome
[21:14] <dpurgert> indeed -- but if it's just a "desktop", why even bother rackmounting it?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: I'd ask in ##windows to see if you can do it from within Windows somehow, then delete the Ubuntu partitions
[21:15] <stefan_> dpurgert: i like standing desks :)
[21:15] <Fonsie> alright, thank you
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> magik_: run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER        and you can use your username and the password you set to get access
[21:16] <dpurgert> stefan_: fair enough. Did the soundcard work previously?
[21:16] <jamin> Alabaster_W, could try it again with "-v" should enable verbose output
[21:16] <Alabaster_W> jamin: sure thing man
[21:16] <stefan_> dpurgert: before i installed ubuntu 12.10
[21:16] <cordyceps> I need to trim some audio files, what's the best 'Buntu tool for this?
[21:16] <jamin> Alabaster_W, also is ethtool installed on your box? (apt-cache policy ethtool)
[21:16] <jamin> if so, try "sudo ethtool eth1"
[21:17] <Alabaster_W> jamin: yes
[21:17] <magik_> Well I've tried that, I still can't get access and I was wondering if it's because I'm trying to share something from a different unix account.  Than the account I want to give the access.
[21:17] <dpurgert> Stefan_: OK, we'll assume for the moment it's on the PCI bus ... so try lspci to see if it's listed.
[21:18] <Alabaster_W> jamin: it's onmy other macine, what ouput would you like?
[21:18] <stefan_> dpurgert: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[21:18] <jamin> blargg, never seen that prompt... does tab get you anything?
[21:18] <ThomasCorwin> Could someone help me please? I installed the Lubuntu Desktop inside of my Ubuntu 12.04 installation using the following line in the terminal:     sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop    The installation works great and installed just how it should have, but now i want rid of it.   sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop   doeas not delete all of the files installed. How do i get rid of them all?
[21:18] <jamin> Alabaster_W, just want to make sure that it's seeing the network cable (link)
[21:18] <stefan_> dpurgert: 07:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[21:18] <blargg> jamin, tab at boot doesn't bring up anything.
[21:19] <stefan_> those are the 2
[21:19] <jamin> blargg, at the prompt you got from holding shift
[21:19] <dpurgert> well, it sees it, and it's presumably got the drivers installed/running.  Do you see a speaker icon in the upper right?
[21:19] <blargg> jamin, will try when I try rebooting again (mirroring internal drive with that machine right now).
[21:19] <Alabaster_W> jamin: i get output to the effect of "DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3"
[21:19] <cordyceps> Need to trim a few seconds off some audio files. What's the best tool to do this?
[21:20] <stefan_> dpurgert: yes. I have used alsamixer and unmuted everything in both the hda intel and the cpi, and nothing has worked.
[21:20] <jamin> ThomasCorwin, AFAIK there's no "easy" way to remove all of it... you could check the logs for which packages were installed when you add lubuntu-desktop
[21:20] <Alabaster_W> jamin: and the "3" is changed every time
[21:20] <velko> cordyceps, have you tried audacity?
[21:21] <jamin> ThomasCorwin, should be in /var/log/apt/
[21:21] <ThomasCorwin> jamin: Where would i find the log file?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[21:21] <ThomasCorwin> jamin: okay. i will try.
[21:21] <jamin> Alabaster_W, looks like it's not getting a response to the DHCP request... next steps would be tcpdump on the client and/or DHCP server
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> ThomasCorwin: sudo apt-get --purge remove lxde openbox       should make the rest fail deps and be removed
[21:21] <cordyceps> velko: yes, just wondering what else is out there.
[21:22] <stefan_> dpurgert: Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d36774257b1cc8fa4265e2b21aade235a5e750c2
[21:22] <velko> ThomasCorwin, aptitude is better than apt-get in this respect. you can use it as a drop in replacement for apt-get. the added bonus is that it remembers the automatically installed dependencies and removes them also
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: do you have an onboard sound card and a PCI sound card?
[21:23] <Alabaster_W> jamin: how would I go about doing that?
[21:23] <Alabaster_W> i'll google it
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> velko: removing metapackages only removes the metapackage
[21:23] <ThomasCorwin> ActionParsnip and velko: I will use both of you suggestions.
[21:23] <stefan_> ActionParsnip: I believe so. Is there some way to check?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: physically looking at the back, if you see 2 sound cards, then it is the case
[21:24] <velko> ActionParsnip, oh. my mistake then...
[21:24] <stefan_> ActionParsnip: I have a sound card at the back
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: only one?
[21:24] <stefan_> ActionParsnip: well I'm using one on the front, too -- there's a hole for it and a mic
[21:25] <stefan_> the one I'm interested in is the front one
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds and reboot
[21:25] <NuSuey> uhm.. "You have queued an operation to move the start sector of partition /dev/sda5.  Failure to boot is most likely to occur if you move the GNU/Linux partition containing /boot, or if you move the Windows system partition C:."
[21:25] <NuSuey> I cant do that?
[21:25] <NuSuey> (message from gparted)
[21:25] <stefan_> ActionParsnip: okay; rebooting...
[21:25] <ThomasCorwin> velko: It says that the command "aptitude" cannot be found
[21:26] <stefan_> dpurgert: rebooting; brb
[21:26] <Alabaster_W> jamin: actually, a quick google of the man page is overwhelming
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> ThomasCorwin: itsnot default installed. apt-get is used now as it handles multiarch better
[21:26] <zwirc> How to change owner of a folder
[21:26] <NuSuey> I would love to know .. if i'm able to boot after I would do that
[21:27] <velko> ThomasCorwin, you have to install aptitude first. but the automatic removal will work only if you have installed the package via aptitude and you remove it with the same tool
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> zwirc: look into chown
[21:27] <ThomasCorwin> velko: How do i install it?
[21:27] <NuSuey> atlef: maybe you know ?
[21:27] <IdleOne> NuSuey: according to that warning, probably not.
[21:27] <velko> ThomasCorwin, ActionParsnip corrected me that lubuntu is a metapackage. and in this case even aptitude wont help you remove everything the easy way. so just follow his other advice
[21:28] <velko> ThomasCorwin, apt-get install aptitude
[21:28] <dpurgert> zwirc:chown user:group <folder>
[21:28] <ThomasCorwin> velko: okay, i will
[21:28] <jamin> Alabaster_W, "sudo tcpdump -i eth1 '(port 67 or port 68)'"
[21:28] <Alabaster_W> jamin: just straight "sudo tcpdump" returns '0 packets captured 0 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernal"
[21:28] <jamin> that should get you any traffic for DHCP
[21:28] <atlef> NuSuey, sorry, been busy in a different channel
[21:28] <jamin> Alabaster_W, I think that command defaulted to eth0 not eth1
[21:29] <Maverick_Hunter> Hey guys, I need some help installing Ubuntu
[21:29] <Alabaster_W> jamin: no ipv4 address assigned
[21:29] <Maverick_Hunter> everytime I install via wubi or boot via liveCD my system freezes
[21:29] <NuSuey> atlef: ah, hey :) np :P well.. can you help with that?
[21:29] <Maverick_Hunter> like maybe 2 mintues after boot
[21:29] <stefan_> back; still doesn't work
[21:29] <NuSuey> atlef: i worry if i'll do that, I wont be able to boot :o
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: what video chip do you use?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: why use Wubi?
[21:30] <toil> I've got 8 ip address's on my server. How would I go about changing the outgoing IP address to a selective one?
[21:30] <stefan_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d36774257b1cc8fa4265e2b21aade235a5e750c2
[21:30] <toil> Inside a swhell script
[21:30] <toil> shell*
[21:30] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: I used wubi because LiveCD failed, I have an Nvidia 8600GT
[21:30] <Alabaster_W> Maverick_Hunter: can you be more descriptive?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[21:31] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: okay, how do I add that and what does it do?
[21:31] <jamin> Alabaster_W, not sure... thought you could tcpdump an interface that didn't have an IP assigned to it
[21:31] <NuSuey> atlef: guess you're still busy :)
[21:31] <jamin> Alabaster_W, this may also be of help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-dhcpdump-monitor-dhcp-traffic/
[21:32] <Alabaster_W> jamin: you can, it's just not doing anything
[21:32] <atlef> NuSuey, yes, sorry
[21:32] <NuSuey> atlef: too bad :/ it will suck, if i'll be stuck without boot
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: some nvidia gpus don't like nouveau so you blacklist it so it never loads, you can then install the proprietary driver
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Maverick_Hunter
[21:32] <ThomasCorwin> ActionParsnip: It worked. Thank you.
[21:32] <gool_> hi
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: it will be what is causing the issue with the live CD and you can use a real install instead of nasty Wubi
[21:33] <toil> er
[21:33] <toil> nvm!
[21:33] <atlef> NuSuey, what are you trying to do?
[21:33] <gool_> can anyone explain to me
[21:33] <gool_> how to get skype on the newest make of ubuntu?
[21:33] <stefan_> dpurget: help?
[21:33] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: Thanks so much!
[21:33] <Alabaster_W> sudo apt-get install skype
[21:34] <dpurgert> stefan_: reboot didn't help?
[21:34] <Alabaster_W> gool_: sudo apt-get install skype
[21:34] <stefan_> dpurgert: no
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> gool_: I grab the deb file from skype's website
[21:34] <NuSuey> atlef: resizing the extende partition and then moving the linux partition to "grab the space"
[21:34] <dpurgert> stefan_: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[21:34] <gool_> it says the following packages have unmet dependencies
[21:34] <gool_> which is why i cant dl it
[21:34] <Alabaster_W> gool_: or you can go to the ubuntu software center and search for it in the search box
[21:34] <stefan_> dpurgert: yes
[21:34] <gool_> ala
[21:34] <gool_> it has to do with "dependencies"
[21:34] <gool_> which im unsure how to fix
[21:35] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: Do I want to change the boot option permanently or temprorarily?
[21:35] <atlef> NuSuey, someone suggested that if you have win installed, you should maybe do the shrinking in win to avoid conflicts
[21:35] <dpurgert> it's been a while since I've messed around with it, so forgive me missing something ... but IIRC, I had to get something playing, and then use the tool in pulse to "force" it to one sound card or the other (speakers or headset)
[21:35] <NuSuey> atlef: with gparted (and getting the message.. You have queued an operation to move the start sector of partition /dev/sda5.  Failure to boot is most likely to occur if you move the GNU/Linux partition containing /boot, or if you move the Windows system partition C:.
[21:35] <NuSuey> You can learn how to repair the boot configuration in the GParted FAQ.
[21:35] <NuSuey> http://gparted.org/faq.php
[21:36] <NuSuey> atlef: well i booted via the livecd..so I'm able to do so
[21:36] <atlef> NuSuey, do you have only one disk in your system
[21:36] <NuSuey> atlef: 4 :D
[21:36] <NuSuey> atlef: ubuntu, mac os, w7 & winXP
[21:36] <magik_> nice
[21:36] <gool_> why?
[21:36] <gool_> lol
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: just for now, you can then install the proprietary driver and be ok
[21:36] <atlef> NuSuey, oh, that might be too complicated for me right now
[21:37] <atlef> NuSuey, sorry
[21:37] <NuSuey> atlef: well maybe I should try it and see what will it do? :o lol
[21:37] <NuSuey> atlef: but I may not boot of course :(
[21:37] <dpurgert> gool_ : sudo apt-get build-dep skype should fix it
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> gool_: run:  sudo apt-get -f install     and they will be satisfied. If you run 64bit OS then you will pull in a LOT of 32bit packages as deps
[21:38] <atlef> NuSuey, as long as you have all the cd/dvds at hand you should be able to fix it if it fails
[21:38] <gool_> trying dpurgert 's first
[21:38] <atlef> me thinks
[21:38] <gool_> looks to be installing
[21:38] <gool_> if not, i'll do your command actionparsnip
[21:38] <gool_> thanks much
[21:38] <NuSuey> atlef: okay, maybe i'll do it some other way.. i'll just grab the space.. create a new partition and mount and use the partition..
[21:39] <NuSuey> atlef: this way nothing should be f.cked up
[21:39] <dpurgert> ActioParsnip and my solution should end up doing the same thing (though his would have actually installed skype as part of the process)
[21:39] <obelix73> ciao
[21:39] <obelix73> !lista
[21:40] <NuSuey> atlef: but thanks for the help btw :)
[21:40] <atlef> np
[21:40] <anders2_> Hi, Im new to this IRC,
[21:41] <anders2_> how do I get in contact with at specific person?
[21:41] <anders2_> thanks
[21:41] <auronandace> anders2_: /msg nick whatever
[21:41] <auronandace> !pm | anders2_
[21:42] <anders2_> ok ubottu
[21:42] <velko> anders2_, or if you want to talk to the person in this channel start typing his nick and press tab to autocomplete the nick
[21:42] <anders2_> vanhoof
[21:42] <deadmund> What is some good file recovery software that I can use on a failing (external) harddrive?
[21:42] <Gnea> deadmund: testdisk and foremost
[21:43] <Guest74176> testdisk
[21:43] <anders2_> ok, I just installed Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 device, but I am stuck in a initramfs shell
[21:43] <velko> deadmund, i have good experience with photorec
[21:43] <deadmund> Gnea: thanks
[21:43] <deadmund> velko: thanks
[21:43] <deadmund> no love for ddrescue?
[21:43] <Gnea> foremost will do what photorec can do, plus it supports a bit more than just image file recovery
[21:44] <deadmund> "image file" recovery?
[21:44] <Gnea> never used it
[21:44] <Gnea> yes, images, like jpegs, gifs, png, tif, etc
[21:45] <gool_> dpurgert
[21:45] <Gnea> PhotoRec is file data recovery software designed to recover lost pictures from digital camera memory or even Hard Disks.
[21:45] <gool_> i think it downloaded
[21:45] <gool_> but i cant find the application
[21:45] <gool_> to run skype
[21:45] <Gnea>  Foremost can work on disk image files, such as those generated by dd,
[21:45] <Gnea>  Safeback, Encase, etc, or directly on a drive.
[21:45] <dpurgert> build-dep only grabs the dependencies so you can install whatever you're trying to
[21:45] <gool_> oo
[21:45] <velko> !enter | gool_
[21:45] <dpurgert> sudo apt-get install skype will install it
[21:46] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: so i reconnected the eth0 nic
[21:46] <anders2_> Ubuntu on Nexus 7, any experts?
[21:46] <gool_> sorry, english isnt my language, must put thought into it
[21:46] <gool_> heh
[21:46] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: but i'm not physically connected to it
[21:47] <GodsFury>  Picture of my girlfriend's great tits: http://imagetwist.com/re270t125kks
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[21:47] <GodsFury>  Picture of my girlfriend's great tits: http://imagetwist.com/re270t125kks
[21:47] <jamin> Ubiquity4321, don't follow... it's connected but you're not connected?
[21:47] <FloodBot1> GodsFury: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <crazybrain> Fred is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[21:47] <crazybrain> what does that mean?
[21:47] <TheLordOfTime> crazybrain, it means that user isn't allowed to sudo.
[21:47] <jrib> crazybrain: it means your user has not been granted the ability to sudo
[21:48] <bekks> crazybrain: That you tried using sudo as user Fred who is not allowed to do so.
[21:48] <crazybrain> the original admin user account is not working
[21:48] <crazybrain> so i created a new account
[21:48] <F3Speech> Anyone tell me the correct commandto format a pat as swap "sudo mkfs -t swap /dev/sdb1" gives me an error
[21:48] <crazybrain> but whenever i try to install something
[21:48] <jrib> crazybrain: accounts can't sudo by default. You need to grant that ability
[21:48] <TheLordOfTime> crazybrain, creating a new account won't grant sudo.
[21:49] <crazybrain> how can i grant that?
[21:49] <jrib> crazybrain: add the user to the "sudo" group
[21:49] <crazybrain> how?
[21:49] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: apologies. It's a different box. I physically reinstalled the eth0 card. I am trying to not use this card, as it does not support wol (which the onboard nic does)
[21:49] <Gnea> crazybrain: visudo
[21:49] <NuSuey> atlef: meh, mac os works.. ubuntu works.. cant boot to xp ..and I don't see w7 entry in grub :P how to freaking boot w7 ?:D
[21:49] <jrib> crazybrain: log in as a user that can already sudo and run "sudo adduser YOUR_NEW_USER_HERE sudo"
[21:49] <velko> F3Speech, sudo mkswap /dev/something
[21:49] <gool_> why wouldnt apt-get autoremove work for me?
[21:50] <velko> F3Speech, and after that "sudo swapon /dev/something"
[21:50] <jrib> gool_: pastebin what actually happens.  We don't know what you mean by "doesn't work for me"
[21:50] <F3Speech> velko: ty
[21:50] <crazybrain> jrib: i cant run that user
[21:50] <crazybrain> it's not working
[21:50] <jrib> crazybrain: then choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[21:50] <atlef> NuSuey, your setup seems too complicated for me to get into
[21:50] <crazybrain> thats why i created a new one
[21:50] <NuSuey> atlef: true :P :( well.. my fault..
[21:50] <jrib> crazybrain: how did you create a new one?
[21:51] <crazybrain> well at that time it was working
[21:51] <NuSuey> atlef: guess I'll be using the magic of google
[21:51] <jrib> crazybrain: ok, well use recovery mode then.
[21:51] <anders2_> Ubuntu on Nexus 7, any experts?
[21:51] <k1l> anders2_: #ubuntu-arm
[21:51] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: i reconnected to the eth0 card  to download dhcpdump. I am now physically disconnected from the eth0 card and physically reconnected to the (nonworking) eth1 onboard nic
[21:52] <atlef> NuSuey, maybe rethink how your disks are setup and yes, google or this channel might give you your answers
[21:52] <anders2_> k1l, how do I go there? sorry.
[21:52] <bcbrown19> is there still a ubuntu flavor meant for netbooks?
[21:52] <k1l> anders2_: /join #ubuntu-arm
[21:52] <auronandace> anders2_: /join #channel
[21:52] <NuSuey> atlef: well the guys probably don't have the time, since mostly nobody answers If i ask :P
[21:52] <anders2_> thanks
[21:52] <goddard> does ext4 have a file size limit?
[21:52] <jamin> Ubiquity4321, I'm at a loss... you should see at least the outbound DHCP packet requests...  if you do, but don't see an inbound server response you'd need to verify that the request is making it to the DHCP server
[21:52] <TheLordOfTime> bcbrown19, not specialized, you can use the normal Ubuntu installer, or try one of the variant flavors of Ubuntu
[21:52] <auronandace> goddard: yes
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> goddard: yes, all filesystems do
[21:53] <jamin> I suspect the request is never making it off the box
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> goddard: its massive though, i wouldnt worry about it :)
[21:53] <goddard> 3TB ?
[21:53] <Gnea> goddard: 16 terrabytes
[21:53] <atlef> NuSuey, not to offend, but it seems your setup is somewhat unique
[21:53] <goddard> i created a new file system and formatted my disk but it is only 2.2TB
[21:53] <NuSuey> atlef: no offense taken :P
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> goddard: 16Tb is the largest single file size
[21:53] <atlef> NuSuey, good
[21:53] <velko> bcbrown19, no more. just grab one of the flawors and see if it suits your need
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> goddard: 1Eb is the largest volume size
[21:54] <Gnea> goddard: what's the problem?
[21:54] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: let me run dhcpdump
[21:54] <goddard> I must of done the formatting wrong because the volume is suppose to be 3TB
[21:54] <Gnea> "must have"
[21:54] <NuSuey> atlef: probably good, that I cant boot into windows.. more time in ubuntu.. WOHOOO :P
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> goddard: did you use 4k block size?
[21:55] <crazybrain> jrib: still not working
[21:55] <goddard> 4096 is the block size
[21:55] <crazybrain> i did that
[21:55] <crazybrain> by switching user
[21:55] <atlef> NuSuey, as long as you do not miss it
[21:55] <jrib> crazybrain: I don't know what you did to try to fix it.  And I don't know what "still not working" means.  Be more specific.
[21:55] <laos> Hi everyone. I installed LAMP through ZPanel, and while Pear is being picked up by /cli/ apache2/php.ini is not seeing pear, would anyone have any idea how to perhaps resolve this?
[21:55] <Gnea> goddard: what is the output of df -Th ?
[21:55] <crazybrain> jrib: i did sudo adduser fred sudo
[21:55] <NuSuey> atlef: just some things. and im trying to find alternatives for those in linux, or just run that with wine..
[21:55] <crazybrain> then it said done
[21:55] <jrib> crazybrain: what was the output?
[21:56] <crazybrain> but when i switched back to fred
[21:56] <bekks> I am wondering how that had been working when the admin user "was not working".
[21:56] <crazybrain> and try to run sudo it showing me same error
[21:56] <atlef> NuSuey, not to offend again, but kind of ooftopic
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> goddard: run:  sudo fdisk -l   what is output please (use a pastebin)
[21:56] <atlef> *offtopic
[21:56] <jrib> crazybrain: what exactly did you run?
[21:56] <gool_> http://pastebin.com/FQwQ4YCE
[21:57] <crazybrain> sudo adduser fred sudo
[21:57] <jrib> crazybrain: and then?
[21:57] <NuSuey> atlef: well.. sorry for trying to have a chat here :) I'm googling some stuff, but I don't wanna use the windows cd to repair the boot for windows, because that would f.. up my ubuntu boot :P
[21:58] <crazybrain> jrib: then it output as done
[21:58] <bekks> crazybrain: You said the "admin user was not working" - what exactly was/is not working?
[21:58] <crazybrain> sudo is not working
[21:58] <jrib> crazybrain: after it said "done", what did you do?
[21:58] <crazybrain> bekks: i switched back to fred
[21:59] <jrib> crazybrain: how?
[21:59] <crazybrain> and try to run sudo
[21:59] <Gnea> crazybrain: you have to logout and login again
[21:59] <anuvrat> installing on 2TB hdd, I have set bios_grub on on a 100 mb partition, grub-installed worked perfectly, still the computer complains that it can't find anything to boot from. What to do?
[21:59] <atlef> NuSuey, but it is getting late, need to go. good luck though. it is almost midnight
[21:59] <gool_> http://pastebin.com/hQ9m3XPv
[21:59] <NuSuey> atlef: good night then :) and thanks!
[21:59] <gool_> can anyone take a look at that to explain my issue? much thanks if so
[21:59] <atlef> np
[22:00] <bcbrown19> velko: ah thanks. I think probably a fluxbuntu would be best or something. Too bad. The old netbook flavors were awesome.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> gool_: if you run:  apt-cache policy skype     what is output (please use pastebin again).
[22:00] <velko> bcbrown19, i was also a big fan. even ported the first one to debian proper
[22:00] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: so what do i do now?
[22:01] <Ubiquity4321> can anyone else help me configure my network?
[22:01] <gool_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/YXRXC2UZ
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Ubiquity4321: does DHCP not fill the needs
[22:02] <jrib> gool_: to install skype, apt needs to install skype-bin but it can't.  This is usually because either you are using repositories not meant for your distribution or you've installed packages not meant for your distribution
[22:02] <gool_> does that mean the latest version of skype for linux doesnt work for the newest version of ubuntu?
[22:02] <velko> gool_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773851 (unable to resolve host)
[22:02] <jrib> gool_: no
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> gool_: sudo apt-get --purge remove skype-bin; sudo apt-get install skype
[22:03] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: can you state your question another way?
[22:03] <gool_> actionparsnip
[22:03] <gool_> skype-bin is not installed so not removede
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: which question
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: ahh, nick change
[22:04] <Alabaster_W> [17:02:10] <ActionParsnip> Ubiquity4321: does DHCP not fill the needs
[22:04] <Alabaster_W> yeah, sorry
[22:04] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: I get the error "nouveau.blacklist=1" when I add it to the boot parameters.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: by default, interfaces will use DHCP. Is this not sufficient to setup the interfaces
[22:04] <jrib> gool_: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype-bin; apt-cache policy skype-bin
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> Ubiquity4321, mind *not* changing nicks quickly?  ;)
[22:05] <TheLordOfTime> like that.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: you don't add the quotes. Just delete the:  quiet splash   and add:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:05] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: it's not working for some reason
[22:05] <laos> Hi everyone. I installed LAMP through ZPanel, and while Pear is being picked up by /cli/ apache2/php.ini is not seeing pear, would anyone have any idea how to perhaps resolve this?
[22:05] <velko> gool_, have you tinkered with /etc/hostname and/or /etc/hosts? the error you get indicates that you did
[22:06] <Alabaster_W> TheLordOfTime: i'm using kvirc on windows. It's automatically doing it. Let me remove that option
[22:06] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: I didnt use the quotes, but I also didnt delete quite splash, is that important
[22:06] <goddard> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/y4atSpft
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Maverick_Hunter: it can help
[22:06] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: i'm sorry about the nick change
[22:06] <gool_> i did velko
[22:06] <Maverick_Hunter> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a go, thanks again
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> goddard: ok its seen as a 3Tb drive, that's good
[22:07] <velko> gool_, look at this forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=799896
[22:07] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: anyway, dhcp isn't configuring for some reason
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: is it wired or wireless
[22:08] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: it is wired
[22:08] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i tried using the Gparted gui to resize the drive and it cant
[22:08] <gool_> velko
[22:08] <gool_> i read that but there was nothing to read
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: are there flashing LEDs around the physical port?
[22:08] <goddard> ActionParsnip: it is seen as being a 2.7 TB drive to Gparted
[22:08] <gool_> how to i fix my hostname? im now aware of it.
[22:09] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: there are not
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> goddard: thats fine, you'll never get exactly 3Tb
[22:09] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: it's just a unblinking led
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: are there LEDs which aren't flashing, one green and one orange
[22:09] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: all are green
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: reseat the cable on both ends is a good first move
[22:12] <jrib> gool_: your hostname error is unrelated, but you can fix it by editing your /etc/hosts
[22:12] <jrib> !hostname | gool_
[22:12] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: reseated sir/ma'am
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: I'm a dude :D
[22:12] <Alabaster_W> running ifup right now
[22:12] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: can never be too careful
[22:12] <gool_> what should my hostname be?
[22:13] <Alabaster_W> something easy to remember
[22:13] <jrib> gool_: it's your choice.
[22:13] <Alabaster_W> ^
[22:13] <jrib> gool_: what do you have in /etc/hostname now?
[22:13] <vect0r> Lost the top bar in unity, that has the window name, close/minimize buttons, etc.
[22:13] <Heart^Killer> hi guys can someone please tell me how can i install clamav php?
[22:13] <vect0r> any easy way to restore it without rebooting or logging in/out?
[22:14] <gool_> i dont know where that is
[22:14] <gool_> :(
[22:15] <iceroot> my system (12.04) is telling me that my nameserver is 127.0.0.1. how to find out of the "real" nameserver behind is 192.168.1.1 or 8.8.8.8? nslookup is always showing 127.0.0.1
[22:15] <jrib> gool_: /etc/hostname is a file named "hostname" in the directory "/etc"
[22:16] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: ifup isn't doing anything i can see
[22:16] <Alabaster_W> let me try verbose
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: sudo apt-get install clamav    I recommend the clamav ppa for newer defs and engine
[22:16] <gool_> ok
[22:16] <Heart^Killer> hmm ok thx AcerAspire1ne
[22:16] <gool_> why would my current hostname
[22:16] <gool_> not work?
[22:16] <gool_> im confused.
[22:16] <DIL> it your host file you need to define it
[22:16] <Heart^Killer> thanks i mean ActionParsnip
[22:17] <jrib> gool_: probably because your hostname in /etc/hostname is not listed in /etc/hosts
[22:17] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: sudo ifup -v eth1 returns "ifup: interface eth1 already configured"
[22:17] <alex__> o:
[22:17] <Alabaster_W> that's soooo odd
[22:17] <jamin> Alabaster_W, sorry was away... did dhcpdump give anything?
[22:17] <gool_> well, my hostname is brien-pc
[22:17] <gool_> and i did cat hostname
[22:17] <gool_> and it said brien-pc
[22:17] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: pinging results in unknown host
[22:17] <jrib> gool_: yes, now check /etc/hosts
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install clamav
[22:17] <Heart^Killer> ActionParsnip it says E: Unable to locate package ppa
[22:18] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: i can't connect to the internet
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: you need the lights to flash, is there another cable known to be good
[22:19] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: re-looked. lights are flashing
[22:20] <gool_> im in cd etc, and when i type cd /hosts/
[22:20] <gool_> it says no such directory
[22:20] <jrib> gool_: cat /etc/hosts
[22:21] <gool_> jrib: http://pastebin.com/jVJNbv0r
[22:21] <jrib> gool_: great.  Do you see your hostname there?
[22:21] <tux-linux> hola alguien me dice como puedo meterme en ubuntu en español
[22:22] <TheLordOfTime> !es | tux-linux
[22:22] <gool_> if my hostname is brien-pc then no
[22:22] <jrib> gool_: so what should you do?
[22:22] <gool_> dance?
[22:22] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: lights are flashing now at least
[22:22] <gool_> i really dont know, should i change my hostname or should i add my hostname to that?
[22:22] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: but it's not connecting
[22:23] <jrib> gool_: dancing never hurts.  You can change "ubuntu" in your /etc/hosts to "brien-pc"
[22:23] <skp1> can someone telol me if there is a program for ubuntu that will allow me to make graphs, pie charts, etc
[22:23] <gool_> how would i do that? open it?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Alabaster_W: does the interface have an IP address?
[22:23] <gool_> im new to bash or terminal
[22:23] <jrib> gool_: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> skp1: libreoffice
[22:23] <skp1> ok thank you
[22:23] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: it does not
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Albastos|off: try rebooting now, may just be good now :)
[22:24] <Alabaster_W> will do
[22:25] <gool_> awesome, i got that done
[22:25] <gool_> now should i reattempt to install skype?
[22:25] <jrib> gool_: you should pastebin what I asked you to pastebin before
[22:26] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: it hangs at "waiting for network configuration"
[22:26] <gool_> jrib: http://pastebin.com/QjUQf4Yb
[22:26] <jrib> gool_: I'll be back in ~10
[22:27] <gool_> ok
[22:27] <jrib> gool_: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype-bin; apt-cache policy skype-bin
[22:27] <Alabaster_W> ActionParsnip: i have an idea. i'll brb
[22:29] <whostheroot> :) lolz
[22:29] <blargg> jamin, hey, I figured out how to do memtest. Hold shift at boot and the "load boot" question comes up. Answer No, and a boot: prompt appears. Enter memtest. The help command at this prompt clued me in.
[22:30] <blargg> jamin, thanks for encouraging me to keep trying.
[22:30] <whostheroot> sudo apt-get cmatrix
[22:30] <Ubiquity4321> ActionParsnip: my idea didn't work. i'm done screwing with it
[22:31] <gool_> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Gkq41jxr
[22:31] <Ubiquity4321> ActionParsnip: the only reason i want to use eth1 instead of eth0 is to enable wake on lan
[22:31] <Ubiquity4321> ActionParsnip: and this other nic doesn't support wol
[22:34] <jamin> blargg, no problem... glad you found a working solution
[22:35] <Ubiquity4321> i didn't find a working solution
[22:35] <dpurgert> gool_: the error is that there's nothing named "skype-bin in the apt repositories
[22:36] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: thank you so much for the help
[22:36] <Ubiquity4321> ActionParsnip: and thank you so much for the help
[22:36] <milamber> !info skype-bin
[22:36] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: ActionParsnip: gentlement, scholars, and saints among sinners
[22:36] <jamin> Ubiquity4321, what model is the NIC that you're trying to use?
[22:36] <milamber> !info skype-bin precise
[22:36] <Heart^Killer> ActionParsnip: I want to install php-clamav extension I do not know how to install this, i could not find this using sudo apt-get install can you please tell me how can i enable or install this?
[22:38] <gool_> dpurgert what does that mean?
[22:39] <dpurgert> means that there isn't a package named skype-bin.  Try "skype" by itself
[22:40] <dpurgert> !info skype precise | gool_
[22:40] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: http://pastebin.com/tPyU1AZx
[22:40] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: it's an onboard nic
[22:40] <gool_> is there anything i can do about that?
[22:40] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: puppy linux saw it. I don't know why ubuntu server didn't
[22:41] <Ubiquity4321> gool_: you can't install skype?
[22:41] <jamin> well according to that output... there's no link
[22:41] <gool_> i cant install skype, correct
[22:41] <dpurgert> well, it's not in the repos ... so lessee what the skype people have to say about it  ... gimme 2 minutes
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: not seen that one, sorry
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !info php-clamav
[22:41] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: what do you mean? it's disabled right now
[22:42] <Heart^Killer> mmmm
[22:42] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: i gave up
[22:42] <Ubiquity4321> gool_: and you can't install from sudo aptitude install skype
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> !info php5-clamav
[22:42] <jamin> Ubiquity4321, ahh... got it... just noticed in the pastebin that it had "link=no"
[22:42] <dpurgert> well, if the nic is disabled ... it's not going to work
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/166280/how-do-i-install-the-clamav-extension-for-php-5-on-11-04    may help
[22:42] <gool_> ubiquity4321
[22:42] <Heart^Killer> ok thx ActionParsnip :)
[22:42] <gool_> i tried something with aptitude
[22:42] <gool_> idk what to do now
[22:43] <gool_> all i want is skype so i dont have to switch to windows 7 to skype my girlfriend, lol.
[22:43] <dpurgert> gool_: did you download the installer from the skype website?
[22:43] <Ubiquity4321> gool_: can you search for the .deb? or go into the software center?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:argos66/ppa-phpclamav; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install php-clamav
[22:43] <jrib> gool_: go to skype.com and download the deb they provide
[22:43] <Ubiquity4321> ^
[22:43] <dpurgert> Ubiquity4321, I just checked there -- there's not a skype package in the software center. However, it's a deb on the website...
[22:44] <jamin> Ubiquity4321, that chipset is more than a little problematic under Linux
[22:44] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: ahhh
[22:44] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: well, i got it for free so i'm not complaining
[22:44] <Heart^Killer> mmm
[22:44] <gool_> error wrong architecture i186
[22:44] <gool_> does that mean im on 12.10 or whatever
[22:44] <gool_> ?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> gool_: grab the 64bit deb, your OS is 64bit
[22:45] <jrib> gool_: it means you probably need to enable multi-arch
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> gool_  it's i386, not i186
[22:45] <Heart^Killer> ActionParsnip above commands didnt find any packages :(
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: run it in a terminal
[22:45] <Heart^Killer> i am running it via putty
[22:45] <Heart^Killer> is that why i am getting this error?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: did the PPA add ok?
[22:46] <jamin> Ubiquity4321, old reports, but gives you some history: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/48263 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/641658
[22:46] <Heart^Killer> no ActionParsnip
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:argos66/ppa-phpclamav      does it add ok?
[22:46] <gool_> what do i do to get multiarch?
[22:47] <jrib> gool_: what's the output of: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[22:47] <jrib> gool_: you should only do this if skype doesn't provide an amd64 .deb (I don't think they do)
[22:48] <iceroot> my system (12.04) is telling me that my nameserver is 127.0.0.1. how to find out of the "real" nameserver behind is 192.168.1.1 or 8.8.8.8? nslookup is always showing 127.0.0.1
[22:48] <gool_> brien@brien-pc:~$ dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[22:48] <gool_> doesnt output anything
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> gool_: what is the output of:  uname -a
[22:48] <jrib> gool_: if you want to add i386 as a foreign architecture, you can do: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[22:49] <Heart^Killer> still no ActionParsnip
[22:49] <jamin> gool_, you want the "Ubuntu 12.04 (multiarch)"
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: can you pastebin the output of the command please
[22:49] <Heart^Killer> sure
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: just saying "still no" doesn't help anyone much at all
[22:49] <gool_> jamin i tried
[22:49] <gool_> and it wouldnt resolve
[22:49] <gool_> i just did what jrib said
[22:49] <blbrown_win3> what is the command to minimize all windows Ubuntu 12
[22:49] <jrib> gool_: now install the skype .deb again
[22:50] <Ubiquity4321> jamin: oh wow. well it's a good thing i have a separate nic and video card
[22:50] <gool_> downloading now
[22:50] <EndUserX> hello
[22:50] <Ubiquity4321> ActionParsnip: jamin: well i'm off. thank you both again
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> blbrown_win3: ctrl+alt+d i believe
[22:50] <EndUserX> anyone available to ask for some help?
[22:50] <blbrown_win3> ActionParsnip, doesn't seem to work anymore
[22:50] <sw> Hi, what do I need to edit to stop SSH connections to a Ubuntu server dropping? I can leave SSH sessions open for weeks on Debian idle with no problems, but on the Ubuntu servers, if I don't type anything for 5 minutes then it just freezes.
[22:51] <gool_> still wrong architecture
[22:51] <Heart^Killer> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Y8KxWK0r
[22:51] <gool_> :(
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> blbrown_win3: try combinations of alt, ctrl, shift and winkey + D
[22:51] <jrib> gool_: what's the output of: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> sw  #ubuntu-server
[22:51] <sw> MonkeyDust: It's not a server specific question, you can SSH to regular Ubuntu installs too.
[22:51] <blbrown_win3> ActionParsnip, ok it is winkey now, ctrl win D
[22:51] <gool_> i386
[22:51] <EndUserX> I have a file permissions question about a windows partition, need advice
[22:52] <jrib> sw: you don't have TCPKeepAlive yes in your sshd_config?
[22:52] <gool_> and now i click it and it says "dependency is not satisfiable libasounds2 (>=1.0.23)
[22:52] <sw> jrib: Don't know, I'll check. So this is a Ubuntu specific thing?
[22:52] <gool_> in ubuntu software center
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:53] <blbrown_win3> I did a full install of ubuntu on a windows machine.  I know it may not be possible, but is there a way to tap into that former windows partition.  There is no data analytics or something that computer forensic people use
[22:53] <EndUserX> I am accessing a VBox VM on my Windows partition, currently I need to provide the sudo password to mount the partition to run the VM
[22:53] <jrib> gool_: when you say click "it" we have no idea what "it" is
[22:53] <EndUserX> Is it insecure to run the VM from a partition mounted with the sudo password?
[22:53] <Heart^Killer> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/A6DpFsVu
[22:54] <gool_> i doubleclick the multi-arch deb i just downloaded (12.04) from skype.com, it goes to ubuntu software center, and says Error and "dependency is not satisfiable: libasound (>=1.023)
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Heart^Killer: naty is EOL no longer supported in any way
[22:54] <dpurgert> EndUserX, no different that giving program that's running your sudo password if you're on a standalone ubuntu install ...
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> gool_: install it in terminal
[22:54] <Heart^Killer> mmm
[22:55] <EndUserX> dpurgert so in other words doing that is akin to running VBox as root
[22:55] <gool_> still shows up with unmet dependencies
[22:55] <jrib> gool_: out of curiousity what happens with "sudo apt-get install skype" now?
[22:55] <Heart^Killer> what am i supposed to do ActionParsnip?
[22:55] <mesquka> EndUserX: Yes, pretty much
[22:56] <EndUserX> yikes
[22:56] <jamin> jrib, can't use apt-get to install a local package...
[22:56] <dpurgert> EndUserX, maybe I'm misunderstanding you then ... you have a Ubuntu install in VBox, running on a Windows host machine, yeah?
[22:56] <jrib> jamin: skype is in partner repos.  But I just now noticed that skype-bin is only i386
[22:56] <gool_> http://pastebin.com/i4m13G9d
[22:56] <jrib> jamin: so my guess is gool_ downloaded the wrong .deb.  But I figured we'd try the repos again since we just enabled i386
[22:57] <EndUserX> nope I am dual booting and I am running a VM I installed on a windows host by accessing it in VBox from a Linux host in order to share it
[22:57] <jrib> gool_: run "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[22:57] <dpurgert> OK, so the "host" machine for this vbox is on linux
[22:57] <EndUserX> but to run that VM off the windows partition I have to mount the partition using sudo
[22:58] <zivester> does anyone know where the mail queue is located on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:58] <dpurgert> if something running inside of vbox needs root (e.g. apt), then the root access is limited to that machine (i.e. it's not executing stuff as root on the host)
[22:59] <mesquka> EndUserX: Is the host machine asking for a sudo password or the guest machine?
[22:59] <EndUserX> the host needs to mount the windows partition where the VM lives as sudo
[22:59] <EndUserX> then VBox can run it
[22:59] <gool_> it is doing some installation, but out of curiosity is skype this difficult to install for ubuntu or did i just screw something up?
[22:59] <dpurgert> well, yeah
[23:00] <dpurgert> "mount" musty be run as root
[23:00] <dpurgert> *must ... curse you keyboard
[23:00] <jrib> gool_: if you had had mult-arch enabled it should have worked.  Is this a fresh install or an upgrade?  What was the original install version?
[23:00] <gool_> fresh install
[23:00] <EndUserX> but I am thinking that may be a bad thing to run a VM from a partition mounted that way security wise but I am not sure
[23:00] <jrib> gool_: k.  Well I guess they don't enable multi-arch by default :P
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> gool_  in software center, i deleted everything skype, then reinstalled it, in software center => now works like a charm
[23:01] <jeremycook> Hey everyone. I have a question about getting a piece of hardware to work and was wondering if this was the right place to ask.
[23:01] <stefan_> I'm still having audio problems on Ubuntu 12.10. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d36774257b1cc8fa4265e2b21aade235a5e750c2
[23:01] <dpurgert> EndUserX, _all_ partitions are mounted as "root" there's no way around that (only root can run "mount")
[23:01] <gool_> monkey i think i did that a bit earlier, it is now unpacking libaudio2
[23:01] <gool_> which was the problem i faced before
[23:01] <dpurgert> jeremycook, probably
[23:01] <jeremycook> dpurgert: Thanks.
[23:01] <dpurgert> gool_, sounds like you may have nailed the problem
[23:02] <EndUserX> dpurgert see that is where I was confused because at some level even the host is running things as root such as daemons etc
[23:02] <jeremycook> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 on an HP Envy 17 1000 series.
[23:02] <dpurgert> jeremycook, what do you need help with?
[23:02] <gool_> yeah
[23:02] <gool_> this is awesome, glad i looked into this irc
[23:02] <vitimiti> o/
[23:02] <gool_> thanks for all the help so far, even if it doesnt work
[23:02] <jeremycook> Almost everything works perfectly except for the subwoofer in the laptop, which I can't make work at all.
[23:02] <jeremycook> I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to get this working.
[23:02] <EndUserX> dpurgert so what you are saying that it is no different than what the host is doing to run the deep sys level stuff
[23:02] <dpurgert> EndUserX, yup ... just don't do anything dumb (install a trojan) and you should be OK though
[23:03] <jeremycook> I've pretty much tried everything I could find on this on Google.
[23:03] <gool_> off topic here, but does anyone use python or arduino in here?
[23:03] <EndUserX> dpurgert would changing fstab to automatically mount without password add a layer of security to it though
[23:03] <EndUserX> I'd prefer not to automount
[23:03] <dpurgert> EndUserX, well, no ... since fstab is mounting everything as root anyway
[23:04] <ultralinux> hola
[23:04] <EndUserX> dpurgert I gotcha
[23:04] <ultralinux> alguien español?
[23:04] <lordinvader> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and am facing a strange issue - I'm using a combo TRRS headphone-mic (laptop - HP Pavillion dv6 6165tx). If I insert the headphone into the jack fully, the sound comes out muffled. Works fine if I insert it only partially. Problem doesn't exist with inbuilt speakers or my external 4.1 speakers with TRS jack. Any idea? Thanks a lot.  I found people reporting similar issues with other distros on googling, 
[23:04] <lordinvader> ALSA details - http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bc6e37abbfcf64cb8503c8455a25db2d8934db12
[23:04] <jrib> gool_: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of discussion.  (unless you have some support issue related to using python or arduino on #ubuntu in which case you can go ahead and just ask aboutit)
[23:04] <ultralinux> holaa
[23:05] <ultralinux> español?
[23:05] <EndUserX> dpurgert thanks, I will just leave it as is and mount the partition with my password when I need VBox to access the VM on that partition then
[23:05] <gool_> oki, just joined that one and thanks! skype is installed now
[23:05] <gool_> thank you very much, jrib and friends
[23:05] <dpurgert> EndUserX, really mounting the drive shouldn't be a concern to you -- once mounted, it's no different than having a vbox partition running "native" off your install
[23:05] <EndUserX> since that does no harm
[23:05] <Guest5576> hej
[23:05] <ultralinux> español
[23:05] <Regretfulone> hey guys, having some issues with my new install of Ubuntu. I just finished building the computer yesterday and Ubuntu is being a little screwy
[23:05] <bekks> !es | ultralinux
[23:05] <dpurgert> EndUserX, if you're "really" concerned about it, just have two different passwords on the host machine and vbox machine
[23:05] <warfar> how do i install a tar.gz?
[23:05] <Guest5576> jest jakiś polak
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[23:06] <EndUserX> dpurgert that is good news thanks, I wanted to be safe rather than sorry :-)
[23:06] <ultralinux> graciasss
[23:06] <dpurgert> warfar, tgz is a zipped tar archive -- usually "tar -xzf <file.tar.gz" should get you going
[23:06] <warfar> can osmone tell me how to install a .tar.gz?
[23:06] <Regretfulone> graphics aren't displaying properly and i keep getting an error popping up saying that there is some sort of issue and it won't download updates
[23:06] <warfar> ok
[23:07] <EndUserX> warfar do you mean install a program as in compiling or do you just wanna extract the tarball
[23:07] <dpurgert> EndUserX, totally understand.  Biggest thing to remember with virtual machines is that they ARE NOT sandboxes.
[23:07] <EndUserX> dpurgert so true, especially with a bridged network connection :-)
[23:07] <ultralinux> "/join #ubuntu-es
[23:08] <bekks> ultralinux: Without the "
[23:08] <dpurgert> indeed
[23:08] <ultralinux> quiero entrar en un canal de ayuda,para ofrecer mi ayuda a gente de la comunidad
[23:08] <qwebirc51592> Hello all!  Was hoping someone could help with a video card failure / "soft lockup" issue?
[23:08] <ultralinux> como entro a un server español de ubuntu
[23:09] <bekks> !es | ultralinux
[23:09] <warfar> http://pastebin.com/KedbDVK5
[23:09] <dpurgert> qwebirc51592, clean the fan/heatsink (especially true if you're on a laptop)
[23:09] <warfar> i get that when i try to make
[23:09] <fabio123> !ru | fabio123
[23:10] <fabio123> !ru
[23:10] <qwebirc51592> dpurgert, it's a brand new build so I don't think dust buildup is causing it
[23:10] <qwebirc51592> though it does sound like it's running hot and loud.  5/8 GB RAM used, which is very uncommon
[23:10] <warfar> http://pastebin.com/iaQyJpeS
[23:10] <danfo> is there any way ufw could be blocking a unix socket when enabled?
[23:11] <warfar> how do i fix that
[23:11] <dpurgert> qwebirc51592, well, that helps.  Airflow issue due to bad cable management (not that I know from experience ... )
[23:11] <qwebirc51592> SSH is still up, websites still respond but VNC doesn't, audio/video frozen on screen
[23:11] <qwebirc51592> ah ok, yeah there's a 850W PS in a MiniITX case... lots of cables and whatnot
[23:11] <qwebirc51592> happens when in Windows too
[23:11] <Regretfulone> does linux not work well with the Intel HD4000 integrated graphics? I can get it to work correctly with a VGA but not an HDMI
[23:12] <dpurgert> well, if it was just a problem in Win --> format that partition off :)
[23:12] <warfar> how do i fix http://pastebin.com/iaQyJpeS
[23:13] <dpurgert> ram usage seems high -- could be VNC choking (kill it).  if it's only VNC then there's something weird with the configuration I guess
[23:13] <dpurgert> warfar, looks like you have some dependency errors for linux-signed-generic
[23:14] <warfar> how do i fix them?
[23:15] <dpurgert> apt-get build-dep linux ... should be able to fix the dependencies.  alternative apt-get -f install linux... will (hopefully) do the same thing and then install the package
[23:15] <warfar> E: Unable to find a source package for linux-meta
[23:15] <dpurgert> qwebirc51592, though, to be honest, I'm not so good with VNC ... I prefer hitting up my remote boxes with straight SSH
[23:16] <dpurgert> well, that's not good warfar.
[23:16] <warfar> i screwed up my windows partion and i need a disk hex editor to fix it
[23:16] <warfar> :P
[23:16] <qwebirc51592> dpurgert: I think VNC is the symptom of video card / Xorg fail
[23:17] <dpurgert> qwebirc51592, could be that too; which then points to "not enough airflow" again
[23:17] <lordinvader> Sound problem - audio muffled unless earphones (TRRS) halfway inserted. Ubuntu 12.04/HP dv6 6165tx. Any solutions? Thanks a lot
[23:18] <qwebirc51592> dpurgert: is there a command for printing out temperature stats? or how can I use top to figure out what's using all that RAm
[23:18] <lordinvader> qwebirc51592 - you can try installing lm-sensors
[23:18] <warfar> can you reccomend any disk editor that i can run?
[23:18] <warfar> btw i am running on a flash drive
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[23:18] <dpurgert> warfar, what exactly did you do to break windows?
[23:18] <lordinvader> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bc6e37abbfcf64cb8503c8455a25db2d8934db12
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> warfar: disk in what sense?
[23:19] <warfar> well i accidentaly made my disk a dynamic
[23:19] <Regretfulone> Keep getting system fail error and I can't get the system to update. It fails each time it tries to update, says check internet connection and then drops the connection out of nowhere
[23:20] <warfar> so i read an article where i used hxd to change a hex value to make it back to basic
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: change: model=laptop-dmic
[23:20] <warfar> and now bsod on startup
[23:20] <warfar> system restore won't work either
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: to: options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5
[23:20] <lordinvader> i'll try and let you know - thanks!
[23:20] <lordinvader> okay, thanks!
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: or try: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/80818
[23:21] <lordinvader> i'll need to reboot after editing alsa-base.conf, right?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: http://www.linlap.com/hp_pavilion_dv6-6b51nr  states: options snd-hda-intel model=ref
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=71378
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> lordinvader: should keep you busy :)
[23:22] <qwebirc51592> dpurgert: http://pastebin.com/FcfucDDJ just in case you can read logs, xorg and dmesg are in there
[23:22] <warfar> can somone help me install wxhexeditor?
[23:22] <lordinvader> haha, i guess. thanks a lot!
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> !info wxhexeditor
[23:23] <warfar> how do i select my hard drive on a hex editor in wine
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> warfar: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:25] <warfar> quantal
[23:25] <Regretfulone> Can anyone help please? The network connection gets dropped in the middle of updating each time it gets to a certain point and then the install acts all weird
[23:25] <dpurgert> qwebirc51592, not really sure what's going on there -- seems a bit of lockup and other little things, but nothing that screams "this is a big problem"
[23:25] <dpurgert> then again, that hex error is a bit weird
[23:26] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, updating what?
[23:26] <Regretfulone> on the initial install, checked the box to allow it to update and it gets to a certain point and then the network connection fails at the same point each time
[23:26] <warfar> http://pastebin.com/uDHWiMih
[23:27] <warfar> there is something else
[23:27] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, try doing it manually
[23:27] <soupwell1> I have an old box running as a server/firewall for my home network. I've had some issues, and now I can't get my root partition to mount rw. I also can't seem to get it to boot live; I've tried the 12.04 live cd as well as a "rescue remix". The 12.04 live cd never finishes booting. The rescue remix doesn't even attempt to boot from cd; it skips straight to the hard drive even though it boots fine on my desktop. Any thoughts on how to get this
[23:28] <dpurgert> open a terminal, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo -qyb dist-upgrade"
[23:28] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: was that directed at me or soup? I was going to ask how to manually update it because I am still a bit new with this
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> warfar: getdeb has it but its down, could try ghex
[23:29] <Tigger664> hi
[23:29] <warfar> http://pastebin.com/1w92CYJg
[23:29] <warfar> already have ghex no disk edit feature
[23:29] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, was for you
[23:29] <Tigger664> erm hey i need help im ... a ubuntu virgin and i feel im stuck in the deep end xD
[23:29] <alcaprawn> sup Tigger664
[23:30] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: thanks I will try that
[23:30] <dpurgert> Tigger664, OK, what do you need help with?
[23:30] <alcaprawn> dpurgert: always see you'r name pop up
[23:30] <Tigger664> im trying to install a server on a ubuntu Dedicated but i cant work it out
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> warfar: could compile wxhexeditor I guess
[23:30] <alcaprawn> Tigger664: i pm'ed you
[23:31] <gool_> if i have an installed webcam (its built in to my laptop), how do i get it to show up for other programs to use? do i need drivers specifically for linux?
[23:31] <warfar> no idea how
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> warfar: there are some PPAs but they are for older releases, you could ask to see if one of the maintainers intends to add the app for quantal
[23:31] <warfar> http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/getdeb-apps-amd64/wxhexeditor_0.20-1~getdeb1_amd64.deb.html
[23:31] <warfar> i found that
[23:31] <dpurgert> alcaprawn, I try ... find that helping people with their problems helps me better learn the box
[23:31] <lordinvader> gool : it was automatically detected by skype in my dv6
[23:32] <dpurgert> gool_, yes, probably, depends on whether the driver is included native in the kernel ( MOST hardware these days, sans gfx, are native/autodetected)
[23:33] <gool_> according to google, ubuntu has UVC on it?
[23:33] <gool_> is that what is used for video?
[23:34] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: the apt-get worked the second command did not, return error is -q invalid option
[23:34] <gool_> my webcam shows up when i type "lsusb" but it isnt being detected by programs
[23:35] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, hm ... lemme chk, probably transposed the options with the command
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> gool_: if you run cheese, do you see yourself. The fact it shows in lsusb only means the OS sees it, doesn't mean it is configured
[23:36] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, yeah, I'm a moron -- the right command is "sudo apt-get -qyb dist-upgrade"
[23:36] <gool_> it doesnt show up on cheese
[23:36] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: ah thanks, I will give that a try
[23:37] <warfar> how do i select my windows partion from a hexeditor run in wine?
[23:38] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: and the error piles in :/ it is just going 'something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 no address associated with hostname)
[23:38] <dpurgert> well, that's bad -- you can't get at the repo
[23:39] <dpurgert> brb, fixing my dchp server (so will probably DC)
[23:40] <Regretfulone> hmm is there a way to fix this so that I can connect to the repo? it just repeats the error for each files it tries to donwload
[23:41] <soupwell1> Can anyone help me get my root partition to mount read/write? I haven't had success booting from disc or usb.
[23:44] <dpurgert> guess it did break things :)
[23:44] <alcaprawn> what media, centre do you guys suggest?
[23:45] <alcaprawn> liveb00table os blah u get it?
[23:45] <dniMretsaM> alcaprawn: XBMC
[23:45] <alcaprawn> dniMretsaM: , im downloading that atm gonna give that ago
[23:45] <dniMretsaM> it's pretty much the best there is. even runs from a Raspberry Pi
[23:45] <alcaprawn> seems to half decent, on the readups
[23:45] <alcaprawn> yeh i read that too dniMretsaM do you own a pi?
[23:46] <dniMretsaM> I do
[23:46] <alcaprawn> how u finding it mate?
[23:46] <dniMretsaM> own a Pi, that is
[23:46] <Lunar_Lander> hi, I just came back from locking my screen, moved the mouse and then I could see my desktop background but the Password prompt didn't appear, so I had to switch off power to get back working
[23:46] <alcaprawn> i was thinking about buying one, but i bought a new wifi adaptor this week :p
[23:46] <Lunar_Lander> anybody had that also?
[23:46] <alcaprawn> ah okay fair enough :p
[23:46] <dpurgert> need to get another one or three of those. great little things
[23:46] <dniMretsaM> it's pretty cool. Haven't really done much with it yet, though
[23:46] <alcaprawn> Lunar_Lander: you have koreans in you're pc. Sorry To Say
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> ?
[23:47] <dpurgert> Lunar_Lander, did you happen to feed Gizmo after midnight and/or get him wet?
[23:47] <alcaprawn> :D
[23:47] <alcaprawn> http://wallbase.cc sick site.
[23:47] <warfar> how do i open an exexcutable?
[23:47] <dniMretsaM> I'm currently trying to come up with a project idea for it, but the two I've had have tanked. but this is OT, so...
[23:47] <alcaprawn> for all your wallpaper needs!
[23:48] <Lunar_Lander> ah, I just wanted to ask what crap bug that is
[23:48] <Lunar_Lander> do you tell me that is a virus from Korea?
[23:48] <alcaprawn> it has bugs. find them and fix them
[23:48] <dpurgert> warfar, like a windows *.exe ?
[23:48] <warfar> no
[23:48] <warfar> a linuxone
[23:48] <dniMretsaM> warfar: open up a terminal and type ./filename
[23:48] <alcaprawn> Lunar_Lander: the ship is sinking fast. lets head over to the docks.
[23:48] <dniMretsaM> (replace "filename" with the name of the executable, obviously)
[23:49] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: so you were saying that it is a problem connecting to the repo?
[23:49] <dniMretsaM> warfar: there are ways of setting your file manager up to let you run them by clicking on them, too.
[23:49] <dpurgert> Lunar_Lander, I've had it happen on occasion ... in my case, it was X acting up, and alt+F2 (to start a terminal) then kill X, and restart X fixed it
[23:50] <kylescottmcgill> if my keyboard randomly dies, how can reload it or check it from a console for error messages or something? dmesg has nothing
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> hm ok dpurgert
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[23:51] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, yeah, that's what it seemed -- I mean, the error was "can't connect to (site)"
[23:51] <alcaprawn> how to get rid of the stupid ati-watermark? with the latest offical beta-drivers
[23:51] <alcaprawn> can it be done?!?
[23:52] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: yeah I had a feeling but I am confused as to why it happens and oddly as soon as it finishes with those errors, my computer drops its internet connection and won't reconnect til I restart the computer
[23:52] <dpurgert> NIC dying?
[23:53] <Regretfulone> not sure what that is ><
[23:54] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, instead of restarting the computer, you can also try either "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" or "sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[23:54] <kylescottmcgill> nevermind guys! found log entries in xorg.0.log :D
[23:55] <dpurgert> kylescottmcgill, good deal
[23:55] <warfar> http://pastebin.com/wxnR0DJT
[23:55] <Regretfulone> dpurgert: the software updater just popped up as well, I am trying to reestablish the wireless connection
[23:56] <dpurgert> oh, wireless
[23:56] <dniMretsaM> warfar: looks like errors in the code to me.
[23:56] <warfar> how do i fix them?
[23:57] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, could be that the wireless is dropping out at the router/ap then
[23:57] <dpurgert> though, TBH, that shouldn't necessitate a restart
[23:57] <kylescottmcgill> Regretfulone: if your internet drops out, try sudo service network-manager restart
[23:57] <Regretfulone> after it drops out like it did, it doesnt matter if I put the correct password in it won't connect unless I restart
[23:57] <kylescottmcgill> Regretfulone: yeah try the above command
[23:57] <dniMretsaM> warfar: fix the code
[23:58] <warfar> isn't mione
[23:58] <dniMretsaM> then talk to the evs
[23:58] <kylescottmcgill> i have a mac with broadcom and mines dies all the time, and it fails to reconnect until i do that... its a bug in the code... thats my use case anyway
[23:58] <dniMretsaM> s/evs/devs/
[23:58] <dpurgert> Regretfulone, use the command from kylescottmcgill ... or plug into a wired connection ... or restart the router/ap (or a combination thereof)
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Regretfulone: unload and reload the driver module
[23:59] <dniMretsaM> warfar: or you can fix them yourself if you know how to
[23:59] <kylescottmcgill> if you are using gnome, you can right click on the wifi applet thing in your sys tray and Disable Netowkring, and Re-enable it again
[23:59] <warfar> nope no idea
[23:59] <kylescottmcgill> it does the same thing
[23:59] <Regretfulone> i restarted the network manager and now I don't think the wireless adapter is working