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afiestasScottK: taht would be nice yes, in kde-core-devel and kde-hardware-devel00:38
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ScottKxnox: We can put it in python3-pyqt4.  As long as the .so file is ABI tagged, it should be recognized by python3 before the python one.04:31
ScottKxnox: I did similar with kpythonpluginfactory in pydke4.04:31
micahgshadeslayer: ok, pushed transmission to raring, will push the rest tomorrow07:13
shadeslayer\o/07:14
shadeslayerthx micahg07:14
soeegood morning07:28
shadeslayersoee: ho07:39
shadeslayer*hi07:39
shadeslayerScottK: what do you suggest we do about amarok stuck in -proposed?08:30
shadeslayerit failed to build on arm08:30
shadeslayerdue to popular demand I'm going to try and build KDE 4.10 on Precise08:34
shadeslayerwill just put everything in ninjas and see if that works08:34
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yofelshadeslayer: if you do, at least write some backport rules for boost, otherwise it's A LOT of work - and don't backport pykde09:02
shadeslayergood point09:10
shadeslayeryofel: do you think this will be enough http://paste.kde.org/639338/09:18
yofelno, you'll need that, but there's a few boost-python deps and other stuff too09:20
yofelwe also used 1.46 in precise so far, not sure if we should keep that or go with 1.4809:21
* yofel wonders what else needs to be changed09:25
yofelat least one package needs libtiff4, a few need the symbol files deleted and you'll need kgapi and kolab from backports09:26
* yofel realizes that the script doesn't really support backporting different kde releases to one series09:30
yofelnot that it matters much now as we're done with 4.909:30
Riddellshadeslayer: who's demanding it?09:30
yofelusers, I got some requests too but was reluctant about it as it's a bit of a support mess09:31
Riddellah, users, we'd have an easy time if it wasn't for them09:32
Riddell:)09:32
yofeltrue, but that would be boring :P09:32
shadeslayer^09:34
shadeslayerhmm .. why do we want to delete the symbols files?09:35
yofelprecise has gcc 4.6, so you'll get missing symbols09:35
yofeland a few packages fail on that09:35
yofelfeel free to fix that differently, but it also causes them to be red on the status page from something we don't care about09:36
shadeslayerhow about I just change boost for now and then we work out symbols and the boost stuff we missed in the PPA?09:39
yofelgo ahead, just please write rules for them as you fix those so we don't have to do that again for RC309:40
shadeslayerand I'm building with 1.4809:40
shadeslayerright09:40
shadeslayerany ideas how binary:Version is computed?10:05
shadeslayerhmph10:06
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Riddellshadeslayer, ScottK: I'll take a look at amarok10:42
shadeslayer\o/10:42
shadeslayerRiddell: oh and we also need a way to ship nepomuk with ffmpeg10:45
shadeslayerone way is to split the plugin into a package that does not get shipped on the CD10:46
Riddellshadeslayer: yep10:48
shadeslayeranother is via dlrestrictions10:48
Riddellbut I also need to tackle me 1852 unprocessed e-mails that have built up over the new year :)10:48
shadeslayerNo idea how that works and JontheEchidna hasn't replied yet10:48
shadeslayerRiddell: whoa10:52
shadeslayerThere's a button called "Mark all as read" :P10:52
Tm_Tshadeslayer: poor Mark10:53
shadeslayerheh10:54
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shadeslayerhah11:34
shadeslayeryofel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/revision/10111:34
shadeslayerI was going to do that11:34
shadeslayerJust about to upload the RC for precise11:36
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xnoxScottK: I am doing final tests & uploading. At this point I reverted py3 designer plugin. I will look at how kpluginfactory is packaged. I just want to test Qt Creator before uploading, in case it freaks out with both 2.7 & 3.3 simultaniously =)11:38
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Riddellwhat is PAE?11:53
yofelin kernel meaning physical address extension11:54
Riddellas in http://paste.kde.org/639488/11:54
yofelah yeah, we don't have any non-PAE kernels anymore11:54
yofel(IIRC)11:54
Riddellhmm, not quite sure how to reply to that without essentially saying "sorry tough luck"12:02
xnoxRiddell: install precise, or whatever last non-pae supported release is.12:03
Riddellok that'll do for an answer, thanks12:05
yofelshadeslayer: your backport attempt is missing kdegames from what I see. Did you use the 4.9 package list?12:15
shadeslayerhmm ....12:16
shadeslayersec, my install is all broken after reboot12:16
shadeslayerno backlight control no hardware acceleration12:16
shadeslayerand now the electricity has gone, so I can only be here for a couple of minutes12:17
shadeslayeryofel: seems so, I guess the script used the kdesc-precise-backports.txt ?12:20
shadeslayerlemme fix12:20
yofelyeah, I didn't take stable-1 backports into account when writing this12:20
shadeslayer:P12:20
shadeslayerhey, precise is still stable :P12:21
yofelargh, you know what I mean ;P12:21
yofelanyway, here: https://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.9.97_precise.html12:21
shadeslayeryay12:22
shadeslayer"Battery 0: Discharging, 20%, 00:25:53 remaining"12:22
shadeslayeryofel: ^ Can you do kdegames?12:22
yofelI'm at work, so not for a few hours12:22
shadeslayerk, I'll try12:24
shadeslayergood thing I didn't delete the upload dir12:34
afiestasis there anyway of getting the patches from: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=10;filename=vbox-kcompat-3.6-3.7.patch;att=1;bug=69601112:48
afiestasand applying them to the dkms?12:49
afiestasI need to use virtualbox on the kernel I'm using (which comes from a ppa)12:49
Mamarokclaydoh: JFYI: I put the posts to that topic on hold now, they should just shut up12:49
shadeslayerafiestas: er, I don't understand, aren't those patches for vbox? how would you apply them to dkms?12:53
afiestasshadeslayer: virtualbox dkms12:56
afiestaslunch12:56
shadeslayerok12:56
shadeslayerafiestas: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/4.1.22-dfsg-0ubuntu1 < raring already has the fix12:59
shadeslayerdantti: print manager ping13:48
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Quintasan\o14:06
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shadeslayeryofel: https://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.9.97_precise.html14:14
yofelseen14:14
shadeslayer"Error multiple versions of the same package" ?14:14
yofellp sends data the script can't handle14:15
yofelnot sure what though14:15
Quintasangood news14:16
shadeslayereveryone14:16
yofelI added the package name to the error, let's see14:16
shadeslayerokay14:16
QuintasanScottK, Riddell: turns out installing anthy ins jp_JP locale did the ibus configuration magic itself14:17
QuintasanTherfore ScottK's proposed solution of making each langpack depend on ibus is the best solution imo14:18
QuintasanI would even go a step ahead and pull the module for ex. ibus-pinyin for chinese langpack14:18
* yofel notes that lp feels esp. slow today14:19
RiddellQuintasan: good good14:20
Riddelldo you know how to edit the langpacks?14:20
QuintasanRiddell: Absolutely no idea.14:20
shadeslayeryofel: today? hah, it's been like that for the last couple of days for me14:21
yofeldidn't notice anything there, but usually the script runs for ~1min, now it's ~414:21
yofelok, no error this time14:22
shadeslayerI uploaded kdegames btw14:23
yofelgood, I uploaded backend stuff (soprano, aknoadi, kgapi, cmake, attica, ...)14:23
shadeslayerawesome14:24
yofeloh, rekonq 2.0 is out14:25
Riddellwhee!14:25
QuintasanRiddell: Aron Xu told me he will be trying to bring over the change from ibus to fctix in Ubuntu, he is one of most active members in Debian's pkg-ime14:25
RiddellI want to know why input methods needs all this faffy setup, why isn't it just a config value that can be controlled by a GUI?14:26
QuintasanRiddell: it seems ibus doesnt automatically enable input methods for certain languages unless your locale is that certain language14:28
Quintasani.e. when you run jp_JP.UTF8 locale installing ibus-anthy will do the magic itself14:28
Riddellyeah, nuts14:28
Quintasanbut when you use for eg. pl_PL.UTF8 installing ibus-anthy will just pull all the required stuff but not configure ibus to use the Anthy input method14:29
shadeslayerwheee http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-top-selling-laptop-doesnt-run-windows-or-mac-os-it-runs-linux-7000009433/14:29
Riddellnuts14:29
Quintasanso to fix it I just need to modify langpacks deps14:29
QuintasanBut I'm still interested in making the change to fctix14:30
Quintasanit has Qt4 module14:31
Quintasanthere is  input-method panel plasmoid14:31
Quintasanplus KCM14:31
shadeslayerfun14:31
shadeslayercups is broken http://paste.kde.org/639692/14:31
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QuintasanRiddell: The only drawback I see is lack of Japanese input module14:32
RiddellQuintasan: no japanese with fctix? that seems like a big drawback no?14:33
QuintasanYeah, but since it's modular it seems like it's only a matter of time14:33
QuintasanI will try contacting appropriate people and see how is that going to work14:34
yofelshadeslayer: reading the changelog entry for that I wonder what "Ubuntu for Android" is... and OS for an OS o.O?14:34
shadeslayerah14:34
shadeslayerit's basically that :P14:34
yofel"fun"14:34
shadeslayeryou can run Ubuntu ontop of Android14:34
shadeslayerMark demoed it at UDS14:34
yofelreminds me of wubi14:34
shadeslayerhaha14:34
Quintasan>wubi14:35
Quintasanyofel: get out14:35
Quintasan:P14:35
yofelwhy? I actually managed to isntall kubuntu precise with wubi14:35
Quintasanwat14:35
Quintasanit worked?14:35
yofelI never saw ubiquity, but it did install14:35
yofelmagic14:35
Quintasanomfg14:35
yofelscript runtime is now at 6min...14:36
shadeslayerfun14:40
BluesKajHiyas all14:48
shadeslayeryofel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/revision/10414:54
shadeslayershould cover everything from what I can see on the build status page14:55
shadeslayerbut then again, half the stuff hasn't been built14:55
yofelrocs needs the actual lib substituted14:56
shadeslayerheh true14:56
shadeslayerI wonder why it depends on the lib though14:56
yofelbecause the -dev package SUGGESTS the lib14:57
yofelno comment14:57
shadeslayerwat14:57
shadeslayeryofel: seems fixed in 1.4914:58
shadeslayerDepends: libboost1.49-dev (= 1.49.0-3.1ubuntu4), libboost-date-time1.49-dev (= 1.49.0-3.1ubuntu4), libboost-thread1.49.0 (= 1.49.0-3.1ubuntu4)14:58
yofel\o/14:58
shadeslayernow the tricky part14:59
yofelfrom what I see, okular needs a rule for tiff15:00
shadeslayerif we drop it, it might cause an issue in precise15:00
yofeland someone needs to backport indi15:00
yofelshadeslayer: if that's the case  just add a rule to add it back15:00
yofelshadeslayer: errr, you were looking at the deps of libboost-thread1.49-dev15:02
yofelgraph has15:02
yofelRecommends: libboost-graph1.49.0 (= 1.49.0-3.1ubuntu1.1)15:02
shadeslayerderp15:02
shadeslayerwel15:02
shadeslayerbetter than suggests :P15:02
yofeltrue, but IIRC sbuild installs with --no-install-recommends15:02
shadeslayerah15:03
yofelcorrect me if I'm wrong though15:03
shadeslayerdunno, I use pbuilder :P15:03
yofellibmusicbrainz5 copied from backports...15:04
yofeldoes print-manager intentionally have a not-versioned build-dep on kdelibs?15:35
yofelsince it built I guess it doesn't matter, but it built with kdelibs 4.8 now15:36
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shadeslayerhmm15:44
shadeslayeryofel: I can't seem to load that link anymore15:44
shadeslayerapart from the fact that it's giving me an invalid cert error :P15:44
shadeslayerah there we go15:44
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yofelyeah15:44
yofelbetter15:45
shadeslayer*nod*15:45
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shadeslayeryofel: yay, kde4libs seemed to build fine15:57
shadeslayerwell almost15:57
shadeslayerit's stripping out stuff from what I can tell15:57
yofelif it's at that point it won't fail15:58
yofelthere's missing symbols if anything15:58
yofelamd64: Failed to build - no reason15:59
yofelthanks LP *-.-15:59
yofelretried15:59
* Riddell jumps on rekonq 2.016:12
shadeslayerwtf?16:40
shadeslayeryofel: kde4libs failed again with no build log16:40
shadeslayerI guess I'll retry it16:40
yofeland i386 seems stuck16:40
yofelLP is having a bad day16:40
shadeslayer...16:40
shadeslayeryeah16:40
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: had you pinged me?17:01
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Laneyhey KDE dudes17:35
LaneyDoes anyone on Raring feel like testing ktp-call-ui from ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gstreamer1.0? I split up telepathy-farstream into a parallel installable package that means Ubuntu can move on with the GStreamer 1.0 transition without being held back by Kubuntu17:35
LaneyWould be good to know if it works and doesn't, for example, crash due to mixed linkage17:36
Riddellhi Laney 17:36
Riddellsorry for the lack of reply on your gstreamer mail17:36
Laneynp17:37
LaneyI found upstream bugs about it and it seems like there's real movement towards porting17:37
Laneys/real/no real/17:37
kubotuLaney meant: "I found upstream bugs about it and it seems like there's no real movement towards porting"17:37
Riddellhowever I can't say I've ever used ktp-call-ui17:39
Riddellshadeslayer: are you able to test it?17:39
LaneyI suppose if it's going to be broken after this upload then it'll already be busted now17:40
Laney(deps stay the same)17:40
soeehiho17:45
xnoxScottK: python-qt4 build and published.17:50
xnoxall of it should go into experimental, cause experimental also has both pythons multi-arched17:51
Riddellxnox: great thanks17:59
xnoxRiddell: way python-kde4 next in the stack to fix against multiarched python2.7? is there some new version to merge or simply get what's in the archive to build?18:00
Riddellxnox: yes new upstram version18:04
Riddellhttp://download.kde.org/unstable/4.9.97/src/pykde4-4.9.97.tar.xz18:04
Riddelljust grab the packaging from pykde4 in raring18:04
xnoxI think I am going to call it pub time =)18:07
Riddellhappy drinking18:12
Riddellnepomuk-core-ffmpegextractor ok as a package name?18:12
alleeafiestas: when loading the kscreen module, kded4 crashed immediately http://paste.kde.org/639902/18:15
alleeafiestas: did before christmas, and now with a fresh git checkout (1 hour ago) too.18:16
afiestasallee: pls check if that crash is not reported18:16
afiestasif it is not, report it18:16
alleeafiestas: okay.18:16
afiestasand add kscreen-console and xrandr --verbose output18:16
afiestasthx18:16
Riddellallee: packages or self compiled?18:16
alleeRiddell: both :-)   I've created pkgs (dh-make template almost) and build them18:18
alleeRiddell: are there already pkgs available (did find something in this channel)18:18
afiestasallee: make sure to have qjson > 0.8.118:19
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alleeafiestas: yes,   I've backported the r pkg to q.  So I use 0.8.1: ii  libqjson0:amd64                  0.8.1-1~ubuntu12.10~p18:21
Riddellallee: no I don't think so, it's on my todo list, maybe tomorrow18:21
Riddellshadeslayer: nepomuk-core-ffmpegextractor made and added to kubuntu-restricted-addons, should keep vHanda happy18:22
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alleeafiestas: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312836   can you fix product and compnent of the bug?  Or tell me? 18:36
ubottuKDE bug 312836 in kded "kded4 crashes when loading kscreen module" [Crash,Confirmed]18:36
RiddellLaney: here's the changelog about adding libcanberra-gstreamer to kde-runtime http://paste.kde.org/639926/18:39
RiddellLaney: it's an optional recommends so easily removed, is libcanberra-gstreamer now incompatible with something?18:40
LaneyRiddell: well, canberra-gstreamer is now using gst 1.0 so you may find that your application crashes when you try to use it18:44
Laneythe pulse one should be ok18:44
RiddellLaney: I just got ktp-call-ui working and it's fine18:47
Laneysweet, thank you18:47
Laneyi will upload that stuff soon then18:47
Riddellrandom e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/639944/18:55
Riddellpunch line is at the end18:55
Riddellapachelogger: what do you know about what needs to be done to port to gstreamer1.0?19:00
Riddellpresumably phonon, qtgstreamer and qtmultimediakit would all need it?19:00
soeewe can set window menu to be showe at the top of the screen19:13
soeehere on my machine desktop effects dont work for this element19:14
alleeafiestas: false alarm.  bug closed (was my fault. missing KSC_* plugins :-( ).   Sorry.19:44
allee^^ I've no 2nd monitor right now.  Will test tomorrow ...19:45
alleeRiddell: Should one upload  the bzr repo of new pkgs (debian/...  only) directly to kubuntu-packages or first to  my account and later clone it?19:48
yofelallee: if it's not there just add it19:54
alleeyofel: okay. first polishing then uploading.  But now first  some salsa dancing :-) ... bbl19:54
yofelenjoy :)19:54
soeewhat would be the easiest way to calibrate colors ?20:00
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Riddellallee: kubuntu-packages is fine, are you packaging kscreen?20:24
Riddellcor, just had a person phoning me for help with kubuntu, not unusual except this is the first time I've had it from someone who expected me to speak spanish22:44
RiddellI didn't tell her I'm half Chillian22:44
xnoxRiddell: ScottK: i did a test rebuild of pykde4 and existing package builds fine against the fixed python-qt4. So i think i fixed the multiarch fallout and the kde ninjas can proseed with the rest now =)22:52
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alleeRiddell: yes, I've alpha quality pkgs of (lib)kscreen.  Still need to replace dh-make template, get rid of *.ex files and add  dependencies23:21
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