| Amacidia | So I guess I'm already to start contributing, I have test drive installed and synced the latest version of raring. | 04:31 |
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| Amacidia | Do I just work on Week 3 tests ? | 04:32 |
| Amacidia | Orca perhaps? | 04:32 |
| balloons | Amacidia, hello | 04:53 |
| Amacidia | Hi balloons | 04:53 |
| Amacidia | How are you? | 04:53 |
| balloons | not too bad.. About to shut down for the evening, but let me answer your questions quickly if I can | 04:54 |
| balloons | one of the was you can contribute is by writing/running tests.. | 04:54 |
| Amacidia | Thanks balloons. I'm thinking of starting off by work on week 3 tasks as indicated by the schedule. Am I correct ? | 04:55 |
| balloons | Amacidia, yes, indeed go for it | 04:55 |
| Amacidia | I do some programming at work, however I don't work directly with python. | 04:55 |
| balloons | this is the close of the cadence week for week 3 | 04:55 |
| balloons | Amacidia, ahh.. well, if your willing to give it a try, we can help.. the python isnt too bad | 04:56 |
| Amacidia | I can definitely look into this week for sure. I'm not sure if the classes being planned for this month cover writing tests do they? | 04:57 |
| balloons | anyways, hopefully the iso tracker makes sense to you.. I'm generally around 1400-2200 UTC so feel free to ping, or email | 04:57 |
| balloons | Amacidia, no, but we have hackfests | 04:57 |
| balloons | there are some planned for this month | 04:58 |
| balloons | it does cover this stuff :-) | 04:58 |
| Amacidia | Oh well that would be awesome | 04:58 |
| balloons | I don't have the dates handy, I think 3 are scheduled right now | 04:58 |
| balloons | it was sent to the list in an email | 04:58 |
| balloons | if you don't find the dates, just ask.. ;-_) | 04:58 |
| Amacidia | I didn't join the lists too long ago... | 04:58 |
| balloons | I'll be on my proper pc again tomorrow, so we can chat more then | 04:59 |
| balloons | its night for me here at least.. so good night! | 04:59 |
| Amacidia | Take care, nice chatting with you. | 04:59 |
| balloons | nice meeting you! happy testing! | 04:59 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:01 |
| Amacidia | Hey pitti | 05:06 |
| Amacidia | I'm new to testing, so this might be a dumb question, but I'm looking at the daily iso tracker for raring and it doesn't seem like a lot of people have submitted test results, is that normal? | 05:08 |
| pitti | Amacidia: yes, it is; we have some intense testing around milestones and regularly over the cycle, but not every day | 05:11 |
| Amacidia | Thanks pitti, so would you say I'm wasting my time working on daily iso testing? | 05:12 |
| pitti | no, feedback on those is always welcome | 05:12 |
| pitti | we have some automatic tests to ensure that they install at all, but there are a lot of problems only humans can see | 05:12 |
| Amacidia | sounds good | 05:13 |
| jibel | Good morning | 08:08 |
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| pitti | jibel: FYI, restarting ubiquity autopkgtest; that's supposed to work again, right? | 12:10 |
| jibel | pitti, thanks, it's back to normal | 12:38 |
| dkessel | hello :) | 13:35 |
| dkessel | has anybody got time to look at my file-roller autopilot branch ? it is not listed and executed by autopilot, and I can't find my mistake | 13:36 |
| dkessel | my branch is here: lp:~d-kessel/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/file-roller | 13:37 |
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| zyga | roadmr: how are lp:ubuntu/$series/checkbox repositories related to the ubuntu source package for checkbox? | 15:16 |
| roadmr | zyga: awesome question | 15:17 |
| roadmr | zyga: I don't think there's anything that auto-packages the bzr branch and generates the package; from what I've read, uploaders are still required to build and dput the package in addition to uploading the branch | 15:18 |
| zyga | roadmr: so they are related in theory but in practice that's just smoke and mirrors? | 15:18 |
| zyga | roadmr: can we upload to lp:ubuntu/$whatever/checkbox ourselves? | 15:19 |
| roadmr | zyga: yes to the smoke and mirrors (if I understand the material correctly) | 15:19 |
| roadmr | zyga: and we should be able to upload there ourselves, yes | 15:19 |
| zyga | roadmr: ok | 15:21 |
| zyga | roadmr: that's pretty good actually | 15:21 |
| roadmr | zyga: yes, it'll be quite useful | 15:22 |
| roadmr | zyga: of course if we want to upload to non-development releases (i.e. SRU) we need to get approvals first anyway | 15:22 |
| zyga | roadmr: wait, how does that work? | 15:23 |
| zyga | roadmr: if there was a can_upload(package, repo) function, how would you specialize it for package=='checkbox' | 15:24 |
| roadmr | zyga: I *think* packages are held in some sort of queue and someone has to approve them moving to the actual archive | 15:24 |
| zyga | hmm | 15:25 |
| zyga | at all times? | 15:25 |
| zyga | or only during freezes? | 15:25 |
| roadmr | zyga: I'm not 100% sure really, I need to read up on it a bit | 15:25 |
| zyga | roadmr: ok, it would be good to get that understood | 15:26 |
| roadmr | zyga: for the development release, there's no queue/approval needed if there's no freeze | 15:26 |
| zyga | roadmr: and I'd like to get plainbox into ubuntu as well | 15:26 |
| roadmr | zyga: after ff, of course, all uploads need some sort of approval | 15:26 |
| zyga | roadmr: having plainbox in the archive would simplify some stuff for me | 15:26 |
| roadmr | zyga: yay, we can go the debian route but I'm sure there's a way to upload to ubuntu first/only, man, so much stuff to read and so little time.. | 15:31 |
| zyga | roadmr: I'd rather just get it to ubuntu now | 15:32 |
| zyga | roadmr: then if needed push to debian | 15:32 |
| roadmr | zyga: makes sense | 15:32 |
| zyga | roadmr: I got access to the QA lab btw | 15:36 |
| roadmr | zyga: yay! I also got the vpn keys, haven't configured them though | 15:36 |
| zyga | roadmr: we should sync this week to understand how to use that stuff | 15:37 |
| zyga | spineau: did you have the time to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/checkbox/zyga/+merge/141865 | 15:43 |
| spineau | zyga: I've started. Need a closer look to the tests now | 15:44 |
| zyga | spineau: thanks | 15:44 |
| zyga | spineau: I'd like to get it landed to unblock the next branch which does a few big changes | 15:45 |
| spineau | zyga: I understand | 15:46 |
| zyga | spineau: also if there is anything that I can do to make such changes easier to review, tell me please | 15:46 |
| balloons | dkessel, I'll have a look | 15:52 |
| dkessel | balloons, thanks | 16:04 |
| dkessel | balloons, i will be back later | 16:06 |
| balloons | kk | 16:06 |
| zyga | https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/checkbox/zyga/+merge/142164 | 17:12 |
| * zyga takes a look at all the merge requests | 17:16 | |
| balloons | dkessel, hmm.. not sure what's going on with your tests | 17:17 |
| dkessel | that makes two then :) | 17:17 |
| balloons | ohh | 17:17 |
| balloons | lol , I see it | 17:17 |
| dkessel | btw it would seem logical to name tests by the executables or packages. which is not the case for terminal, for example | 17:18 |
| balloons | hmm.. yes, something to think about | 17:19 |
| balloons | what did we do for gnome-terminal? | 17:19 |
| balloons | ahh.. just terminal | 17:19 |
| balloons | ok, so kill the '-' in the name, then it works.. also you have some non-ascii quotes in there | 17:20 |
| balloons | ' | 17:20 |
| balloons | dkessel, the reason is you can't have a dash in the python module name | 17:21 |
| dkessel | oh :) lol | 17:21 |
| balloons | yes, hence my lol when I saw it | 17:22 |
| balloons | I looked at your filename and it clicked | 17:22 |
| dkessel | meh :) but the folder naming would be ok? | 17:22 |
| balloons | it should align | 17:23 |
| balloons | so you should drop the dash there also.. | 17:23 |
| balloons | you could leave it and it would work, but it would be confusing | 17:24 |
| balloons | and there goes your naming convention dkessel :-( | 17:24 |
| dkessel | yup.... | 17:24 |
| balloons | underscores are allowed though | 17:24 |
| balloons | potentially you could use that instead | 17:24 |
| * zyga is unappy about https://code.launchpad.net/~sylvain-pineau/checkbox/bug1091633/+merge/141054 | 17:24 | |
| dkessel | i've never seen an underscore in a package name, so it might work to replace dashes with underscores. | 17:25 |
| balloons | I believe it should.. I'm not sure I'm a fan, heh | 17:25 |
| balloons | but yea, it should work | 17:25 |
| h01ger | underscore in package name will not work | 17:26 |
| balloons | h01ger, why do you say that? I did a quick change and it seems to recognize the module still | 17:27 |
| h01ger | because underscores in package names are forbidden by debian policy as they seperate the package name from the version | 17:28 |
| balloons | h01ger, ohh yes yes.. I was speaking about python module names | 17:30 |
| balloons | I think we crossed some terminology dkessel | 17:30 |
| h01ger | ah, ok | 17:30 |
| balloons | :-) | 17:30 |
| dkessel | so using underscores would enable automation of stuff - a script could replace underscores by dashes and then know which package is tested | 17:33 |
| * zyga looks at roadmr's patches | 17:34 | |
| roadmr | :) | 17:36 |
| roadmr | thanx | 17:37 |
| balloons | dkessel, hmm.. we could look to have a 1 for 1 replacement | 17:38 |
| balloons | undersocre probably not a good idea as a character, as it's used validly for other things | 17:38 |
| dkessel | hmm ok - i'll wait before i commit my renames :) | 17:39 |
| dkessel | hmm python identifiers seem quite limited | 17:48 |
| dkessel | and *_* is a valid unrestricted identifier | 17:48 |
| dkessel | http://docs.python.org/2/reference/lexical_analysis.html#identifiers | 17:49 |
| * zyga is back from dinner | 18:12 | |
| dkessel | is there an autopilot helper method to select a specific value in a combobox? if not, how would i do that given the item i want to select may not be at the same position in different program versions? | 18:15 |
| balloons | dkessel, I've been working with alesage and thomi on getting introspection and gtk apps going. | 18:18 |
| balloons | that I believe would be your solution | 18:18 |
| balloons | for the moment, you have to assume the positionj | 18:18 |
| zyga | roadmr: https://code.launchpad.net/~roadmr/checkbox/1084986-report-missing-dependencies/+merge/137702 commented but not marked as needs fixing as nothing here is really a deal-breaker | 18:21 |
| roadmr | zyga: let's see | 18:21 |
| roadmr | zyga: thanks! I'll fix all that stuff :) | 18:22 |
| zyga | roadmr: don't feel required to test everything I comment on | 18:29 |
| zyga | roadmr: I want to keep fluid coding possible | 18:29 |
| zyga | roadmr: only when you also agree that something is better otherwise | 18:29 |
| roadmr | zyga: the defaultdict suggestion looks good to me, what I'm doing is indeed kludgy | 18:30 |
| zyga | roadmr: looking at it just now, typically I add a space after # but PEP8 won't complain if you don't do that | 18:30 |
| roadmr | zyga: I didn't know += was that much slower, definitely good to change to join | 18:30 |
| zyga | roadmr: it's great to see the comments BTW, they make understanding the 'why' part much easier | 18:30 |
| roadmr | zyga: as for the formatting thing, I think it was for it to fit in 80-columns (otherwise pep8 tears me a new one) but I'll try to prettify it, and thanks for catching the lack of i18n | 18:31 |
| zyga | roadmr: yeah, += in a for loop is quadractic while the same "" join is not, basically python does not overallocate string buffers since strings are immutable | 18:31 |
| zyga | roadmr: yeah, I assumed as much, maybe you can put it ine a separate variable so that it's got more space | 18:32 |
| roadmr | zyga: oh that sounds good, that way I'm not constrained by the surrounding indentation | 18:32 |
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| letozaf_ | Hi guys! | 19:54 |
| Amacidia | hey leozaf | 20:04 |
| Amacidia | I'm new around here, submitted my first test result last night actually | 20:05 |
| dkessel | good evening | 20:06 |
| letozaf_ | hello all | 20:09 |
| letozaf_ | Amacidia, welcome, well I'm not a "guru" in testing but I can try to help you :) | 20:10 |
| letozaf_ | dkessel, did you try autopilot? | 20:11 |
| dkessel | yup i did. i started with the file-roller test conversion. i have converted the first steps, but then i got stuck. | 20:11 |
| dkessel | now i know i used the wrong syntax :) don't use a '-' in a test file name :) | 20:12 |
| letozaf_ | :) | 20:12 |
| letozaf_ | so what do you think about it ? | 20:13 |
| dkessel | i think it is nice. but it need some polishing and extensions to be more useful. | 20:14 |
| dkessel | but they are working on it i heard | 20:16 |
| letozaf_ | that's great news | 20:21 |
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| Noskcaj | morning everyone | 20:25 |
| letozaf_ | good morning (well in Italy it's night :D ) | 20:26 |
| balloons | hello | 20:26 |
| letozaf_ | hello balloons | 20:27 |
| balloons | hello, so let's see if thomi is about and see if he made any progress on the autopilot stuff we asked about :-) | 20:37 |
| thomi | Hi | 20:38 |
| thomi | I'm about | 20:38 |
| dkessel | hehe :) | 20:38 |
| balloons | Happy Tuesday! | 20:38 |
| thomi | Thanks :) | 20:38 |
| letozaf_ | :D | 20:38 |
| thomi | we just decided a few minutes ago to add a new feature to ap, which should help you guys a lot. We'll add a new command, probabvly something like this: | 20:38 |
| thomi | 'autopilot launch gedit' -> will launch gedit with introspection enabled, so you can use 'autopilot vis' to look at it's internals. | 20:39 |
| dkessel | =) | 20:39 |
| Noskcaj | balloons knows its Tuesday, yay | 20:39 |
| thomi | regarding the gedit introspection, there was an issue with the autopilot-gtk package in raring, which I'm told has now been fixed | 20:39 |
| balloons | excellent.. so have you been able to get a successful example? | 20:39 |
| thomi | so I should be able to push that branch now... | 20:40 |
| balloons | :-) | 20:40 |
| thomi | alesage: do you have your gedit example handy? | 20:40 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, lol.. yes, Tuesday and summer | 20:40 |
| balloons | I can be taught | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 20:40 |
| alesage | hi thomi, yes you can find it at lp:~allanlesage/+junk/UDS_AP_session | 20:40 |
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| zyga | roadmr: as for UEFI, I'll make a small efi image for netboot testing tomorrow, do you think we could try spending a few hours on pair programming? | 20:42 |
| roadmr | zyga: sure! | 20:43 |
| roadmr | zyga: I didn't get anything uefi-related done today :/ so tomorrow we can certainly work for that | 20:43 |
| zyga | roadmr: have a look at that email I've sent on tuesday last week please | 20:44 |
| zyga | roadmr: the one with a few links to the wiki on how to get this up | 20:44 |
| zyga | roadmr: I'd like to try that on a real machine | 20:44 |
| roadmr | uefi + netboot notes | 20:44 |
| zyga | roadmr: ok, till tomorrow then :) | 20:44 |
| zyga | roadmr: if you can look at the rather big MP, feel free: https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/checkbox/zyga/+merge/142164 | 20:45 |
| zyga | roadmr: no need to review it entirely, just post your notes | 20:45 |
| zyga | roadmr: most of the diff is code motion | 20:45 |
| thomi | balloons: this is what you want: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~allanlesage/+junk/UDS_AP_session/view/head:/tests/test_gedit.py | 20:45 |
| roadmr | zyga: excellent, I'll have a look | 20:45 |
| thomi | balloons: the two key things are: 1 - derive from GtkIntrospectionTestMixin and 2 - use self.launch_test_application(...) | 20:46 |
| roadmr | zyga: for pxe netboot, we usually extract the iso and then patch the initrd on the fly. As I understand it, for UEFI we'd have to then reassemble the ISO with the initrd hacks, right? | 20:51 |
| balloons | hmm | 20:51 |
| balloons | doesn't seem to blow up | 20:51 |
| roadmr | zyga: just some preliminary asking around, I'd have to review the initrd patches we apply, they may be unnecessary if a full iso (rather than nfs) is used | 20:52 |
| zyga | roadmr: I honestly don't know | 20:53 |
| zyga | roadmr: the way we boot today, we netboot the old-school installer, right | 20:53 |
| roadmr | zyga: yep | 20:54 |
| zyga | roadmr: but I really don't even know how that works, I understand how we pxe boot the kernel but what is after that is a mystery to me really | 20:54 |
| roadmr | zyga: we also need a way to load our custom preseed | 20:54 |
| zyga | roadmr: I could try to mimick that locally but raring still has no driver for my new laptop's eth | 20:54 |
| roadmr | zyga: actually feel free to ignore me, I may be talking out of my ass since I haven't read the uefi page fully | 20:55 |
| zyga | roadmr: preseeds are a part of the installer but how do we get there is something I don't yet understand | 20:55 |
| zyga | roadmr: I think you are right in describing what works now | 20:55 |
| zyga | roadmr: how efi affects that is unsure | 20:55 |
| zyga | roadmr: from what I read efi netbooting is very primitive with free tools so far | 20:55 |
| roadmr | zyga: I imagine something like building a custom iso with our preseed, but an alternative would be passing a kernel parameter, which may be easier than doing the meccano thing with isos | 20:55 |
| balloons | cool stuff | 20:55 |
| zyga | roadmr: and grub 2 has none of it | 20:55 |
| zyga | roadmr: so grub somehow gets mixed with a mini iso | 20:56 |
| balloons | ok, so things are working ;-) now just have to talk about using autopilot vis and looking at your dbus session | 20:56 |
| balloons | dkessel, you still about? | 20:56 |
| zyga | roadmr: so that a few stacks of tools get to a point where you basically do what you did in bios (after booting) | 20:56 |
| dkessel | yes balloons | 20:56 |
| roadmr | zyga: well last time I tried any form of uefi netbooting, I didn't get past the mini iso thing (felt too kludgy back then) | 20:56 |
| zyga | roadmr: native-aware boot would be better but is not implemented by grub, efilinux (IIRC) has some code for that but it's still far cry from working | 20:57 |
| roadmr | zyga: since it now seems to be the recommended way, I guess we will have to do it that way :) | 20:57 |
| zyga | roadmr: we should ping cjwatson to know if there's some movement there | 20:57 |
| balloons | so, want to try doing some introspection on fileroller? | 20:57 |
| balloons | you needed it for something yes> | 20:57 |
| zyga | roadmr: yeah, unless there's a more "native" solution that's what was recommended last time I've checked | 20:57 |
| roadmr | zyga: yep. It's not even that late so I may have time to do a bit of experimentation today | 20:57 |
| zyga | roadmr: ok, I'll take a break now | 20:57 |
| dkessel | i wanted to manipulate a combobox, yes | 20:57 |
| zyga | roadmr: I'll talk to you tomorrow :) | 20:58 |
| roadmr | zyga: enjoy, we can continue this tomorrow | 20:58 |
| zyga | roadmr: have a good evening :) | 20:58 |
| dkessel | is a new autopilot version up? | 20:58 |
| roadmr | zyga: enjoy your rosca :) | 20:58 |
| balloons | alesage, the fix is also in the ppa right? | 21:00 |
| balloons | If I remember your not on raring dkessel | 21:00 |
| alesage | balloons, correct--please ping if you find different :) | 21:00 |
| dkessel | balloons, i have setup a quantal vm | 21:00 |
| dkessel | alesage, autopilot-gtk_0.1-0ubuntu0 is the old version, right? | 21:03 |
| balloons | apt-cache show libautopilot-gtk0 | 21:04 |
| alesage | dkessel, yes-- | 21:04 |
| balloons | I have Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1+bzr14pkg0raring1 | 21:04 |
| alesage | dkessel, install libautopilot-gtk-dev | 21:04 |
| dkessel | got that | 21:04 |
| alesage | and actually dkessel you may want to remove autopilot-gtk_0.1bla | 21:04 |
| alesage | as it's from before a renaming | 21:05 |
| dkessel | oh ok | 21:05 |
| dkessel | bug: autopilot is missing --version ;) | 21:07 |
| dkessel | ok got the same version as balloons now | 21:07 |
| balloons | :-) | 21:09 |
| dkessel | now how do i run file-roller with introspection? | 21:11 |
| balloons | ok, so autopilot has this tool called autopilot vis | 21:12 |
| dkessel | yeah, i tried that | 21:12 |
| thomi | dkessel: very soon you'll be able to do 'autopilot launch file-roller' | 21:12 |
| balloons | you can try running it now.. by default, you'll see unity as a connection | 21:12 |
| thomi | dkessel: right now you need this: | 21:13 |
| thomi | alesage: I forgot what the env variable is... remind us please? | 21:13 |
| balloons | thomi types faster than me ;-) | 21:14 |
| alesage | thomi GTK_MODULES=autopilot-gtk:$GTK_MODULES file-roller, I believe | 21:14 |
| alesage | dkessel ^^ | 21:14 |
| * dkessel tries | 21:14 | |
| dkessel | alesage, aaah :) and there is a new "Root" connection | 21:15 |
| alesage | dkessel, and a pile of GTK+ widgets underneath :) | 21:16 |
| thomi | dkessel: yeah, that's the one | 21:16 |
| balloons | all sorts of stuff | 21:16 |
| * dkessel spends the next day poking around in gtk stuff :) | 21:16 | |
| thomi | dkessel: please let us know if you find problems | 21:16 |
| * thomi writes 'autopilot launch' now | 21:17 | |
| thomi | shouldn't take too long | 21:17 |
| dkessel | hmm - hard to identify a program. both name and title of the gtkwindows are empty ? | 21:18 |
| thomi | dkessel: Gtk seems to create a lot of garbage in it's widget tree | 21:19 |
| thomi | dkessel: the bits you're looking for will be in there somewhere | 21:19 |
| alesage | dkessel, it takes some digging | 21:19 |
| dkessel | ok | 21:19 |
| thomi | but it's a lot less clean that a Qt app for sure | 21:19 |
| thomi | the standard practise is to write a class called an 'emulator' that retrieves the useful bits from the introspection tree for your tests | 21:20 |
| balloons | you have some unity emulators in this way | 21:21 |
| balloons | but it would be good to get some gtk examples.. so we can work on that know | 21:21 |
| balloons | thomi, actually does it make sense to have emuators for us? | 21:22 |
| balloons | would we be able to avoid writing one for each app? | 21:22 |
| thomi | balloons: it makes sense to have functions that get commonly used components.... so if the component chsanges it's position in the introspection tree you don't need to update all your tests | 21:23 |
| thomi | 'emulator' is a terrible term for non-unity tests I realise | 21:23 |
| thomi | so yeah, I think it makes sense | 21:24 |
| dkessel | ok, it is a start. i have the dialog and i have identified some of the components in it. however, for the test, i guess the "id" attribute values are generated at runtime? so i would have to guess and write some code like "get the first combobox in this dialog and select entry xyz in there" | 21:33 |
| thomi | dkessel: alesage: the way to do this is to find something unique to that widget. If the app is well written, you can say "select the ComboBox with the name 'someUniqueName'" | 21:37 |
| balloons | dkessel, Im also having a look around | 21:38 |
| thomi | if that's not possible, you may need to get a bit more creative - select the dialog box, then iterate over it's children or something similar | 21:38 |
| thomi | pro tip: autopilot's select_single, select_many and get_children_by_type are all very powerful - you can specify several filters... | 21:38 |
| dkessel | thomi, balloons : i guess the real thing would be submitting patches upstream to get some real names in there... | 21:38 |
| thomi | for example: | 21:38 |
| thomi | combo_box_widget = app.select_single('ComboBox', name='foobar', someOtherProperty=123) | 21:39 |
| alesage | dkessel is this bug relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot-gtk/+bug/1082391 | 21:39 |
| thomi | the first parameter is the type name. The other parameters are filters to apply to the selection | 21:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1082391 in autopilot-gtk "Needs proper widget identifiers" [Undecided,New] | 21:39 |
| thomi | I guess having the widget ids visible would certainly help | 21:40 |
| thomi | alesage: did ted come back to you with anything useful WRT that? | 21:41 |
| alesage | thomi yes I got a brief intro, we'd have to decide how to expose 'em | 21:41 |
| dkessel | yes, alesage - i guess that "affects me" ;) | 21:41 |
| thomi | alesage: easy to do? | 21:42 |
| alesage | thomi unknown, I'll have to review :/ | 21:42 |
| alesage | thomi will study for AWG and discuss then? | 21:43 |
| balloons | a search would be helpful :-) | 21:44 |
| thomi | balloons: in the vis tool? | 21:45 |
| balloons | yea, that would work around the annoying widget spam | 21:46 |
| balloons | in the interim | 21:46 |
| dkessel | hm autopilot -h says: "Opens visualisation in xdot when not passed an output path to write file to. is it still possible to dump the entire tree to a file? | 21:47 |
| dkessel | oops... missing " after "to." | 21:47 |
| thomi | dkessel: oops, that's a bug | 21:48 |
| thomi | dkessel: we haven't used xdot for a while, I'll clean up the help string | 21:48 |
| dkessel | ok :) | 21:49 |
| dkessel | i don't like dot files anyway | 21:49 |
| thomi | graphvis can't handle trees of that size anyway | 21:49 |
| thomi | ...which is why we stopped using it | 21:49 |
| dkessel | yup - it crashed when i handled it a graph of our producation software once too.... | 21:50 |
| dkessel | thanks for your work so far guys! | 21:51 |
| dkessel | ...and i'm off | 22:16 |
| balloons | bah.. I cannot find the popup in the tree ;-( | 22:58 |
| balloons | any thoughts on finding a pop-up window.. in this case, the gedit prefs window? | 22:59 |
| balloons | I'm guessing it's a child somewhere.. hmm | 23:01 |
| balloons | sadface.. I simply can't find it.. | 23:13 |
| alesage | balloons, yeah this can be quite frustrating :( | 23:16 |
| balloons | I thought I had it.. maybe spawning under the gtkmenu tree.. but nope | 23:16 |
| alesage | balloons beware having to 'refresh' the autopilot vis tree--thomi sez it's possible to do so by clicking on a root node, then the child nodes are refreshed | 23:19 |
| alesage | balloons, if you're looking at a modal dialog then it's probably all the way up the tree | 23:20 |
| balloons | alesage, ok.. not sure what you mean | 23:20 |
| thomi | that's another feature we need. balloons if you file a bug I'll try and get around to doing it... | 23:20 |
| balloons | I have to click the top level root node perhaps | 23:20 |
| balloons | thomi, a search you mean? It would make this much easier | 23:20 |
| balloons | and I could ignore the nonsense spawning | 23:20 |
| thomi | balloons: both a search function, and a way to explicitly refresh the tree | 23:21 |
| balloons | alesage, lol.. I'm not going to look through it again, but I'm noting it | 23:21 |
| balloons | thomi, ok, let me file request | 23:21 |
| balloons | I'll go through it again tomorrow | 23:22 |
| balloons | I want to see if what I've got works without that | 23:22 |
| balloons | AttributeError: 'BamfWindow' object has no attribute 'select_single' | 23:26 |
| balloons | alright.. good night all.. good stuff, glad this is working now.. | 23:27 |
| balloons | have to parse through it a bit, and the enhancements your making will clean this up nicely | 23:27 |
| balloons | thanks again | 23:27 |
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