| tgm4883 | mhall119, is it just me, or does sharedmodel not support append using python 3 on 12.04? | 00:22 |
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| mhall119 | tgm4883: what is sharedmodel? | 00:24 |
| tgm4883 | when adding results from a scope | 00:24 |
| tgm4883 | looks like its part of deemodel | 00:25 |
| tgm4883 | or deesharedmodel | 00:25 |
| mhall119 | oh | 00:25 |
| tgm4883 | it's the only thing I can think of here, the same code works fine on 12.10 using python 3, and that part of the code didn't actually change between my python 2 and 3 port | 00:26 |
| tgm4883 | so it seems to be an issue only with sharedmodel with python 3 on 12.04 | 00:26 |
| tgm4883 | model = search.props.results_model | 00:28 |
| tgm4883 | it comes from that | 00:28 |
| mhall119 | it could be, I think there may have been some hacks in the python2-gir code that may have been removed in the python3 version | 00:28 |
| bobweaver | Oo | 00:28 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: try .append_row | 00:28 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, yea I tried that, it only accepts 2 things | 00:29 |
| mhall119 | that's in Dee.Model | 00:29 |
| tgm4883 | not 8 | 00:29 |
| tgm4883 | IDK what it's looking for though | 00:29 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: maybe pass it a list or tuple of the values? | 00:29 |
| bobweaver | mhall119, can scopes listen to other dbus things ? | 00:29 |
| bobweaver | like com.canonical.whatever.gsshema.xml | 00:30 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: yeah, they can listed to anything | 00:30 |
| mhall119 | listen | 00:30 |
| tgm4883 | hmm, not so much | 00:31 |
| tgm4883 | Expected GLib.Variant | 00:31 |
| mhall119 | :/ | 00:31 |
| mhall119 | the C API shows both, so something's going wrong in the GIR translation | 00:32 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/c/dee/dee-1.0-DeeModel.html | 00:32 |
| bobweaver | if you like have on com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash mythip-backend it can listent to that and you can put that in python so there is no need to read extrenal files ? | 00:32 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, bug report? | 00:33 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: I'm not following | 00:33 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, this sounds like something that isn't going to be fixed :/ | 00:33 |
| tgm4883 | if it is in fact a bug | 00:33 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: yeah, against libdee | 00:33 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: it might be, something was done to make it work in python3 | 00:33 |
| tgm4883 | ok, i'll file a bug report | 00:34 |
| bobweaver | mhall119, say I have on the path com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash a Key that is "mythip-backend" can I use that somehow as a var in python in a lens or scope. so like instead of hardcoding in a 192.168.whatever I can use that or instead of making a local file I can use that. :) | 00:34 |
| bobweaver | key is set to string | 00:34 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: oh, a dconf key? yeah you can read that | 00:35 |
| bobweaver | mhall119, I think that that would make things more intergrated with Unity | 00:35 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: see the code example here: http://mhall119.com/2012/12/adding-privacy-setting-support-to-your-unity-lens/ | 00:35 |
| bobweaver | because then one can just pass the com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash previews | 00:35 |
| bobweaver | or other things like having the vars in the py set dconf stuff | 00:36 |
| bobweaver | then user can also change this things or add things like say com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash add.video.source | 00:36 |
| bobweaver | I will look at that example thanks | 00:37 |
| bobweaver | << py noob | 00:37 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: currently yes, in the future sandboxing might prevent it from being able to set those keys | 00:37 |
| bobweaver | sweet | 00:39 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, would I expect to be able to resolve it by installing the libdee version from 12.10? because that doesn't fix it | 00:40 |
| bobweaver | tgm4883, you are tying to get the scope going on virtual thingy ? and it is libdee ? | 00:41 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 00:41 |
| tgm4883 | new scope in 12.04 | 00:41 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: I wouldn't think so, it's probably in python3-gi, but filing the bug against libdee should get the right people looking into it | 00:41 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 00:41 |
| mhall119 | since both python2 and python3 are just using gir1.2-dee-1.0 | 00:42 |
| bobweaver | so I had this Great Idea that if I make a glib path and key for effects in qml. Then users could change all the ways that things are loading ect by using the dash config thingy that I made. but after spending 2 hours getting that going I found out that you can not set easing.type: <var here> waste of time lol | 00:43 |
| bobweaver | making all these "effects" so that user can set it would be cool | 00:45 |
| bobweaver | http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt/qml-propertyanimation.html#easing.type-prop | 00:45 |
| bobweaver | I am just going to have to make a custon element I think | 00:46 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, yep, gir1.2-dee-1.0. Installing the 12.10 version of that fixed it. Opened up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dee/+bug/1096708 | 00:49 |
| mhall119 | oh really? what version did you have? | 00:50 |
| tgm4883 | it was a fresh 12.04.1 vm install, so probably 1.0.10 | 00:51 |
| tgm4883 | 1.0.14 is in 12.10 | 00:51 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, ^^ | 00:53 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, I'll do another clean install and verify | 00:54 |
| bobweaver | tgm4883, let me look at what I got | 00:55 |
| bobweaver | libdee-1.0-4 | 00:56 |
| bobweaver | apt-cache policy libdee-dev | 00:57 |
| bobweaver | libdee-dev: | 00:57 |
| bobweaver | Installed: 1.0.10-0ubuntu1 | 00:57 |
| bobweaver | maybe I should try to push unity up to that ? | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, i'm installing again to verify it's just the one package and that a full update doesn't fix it | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | since I forgot this was a fresh 12.04.1 VM install without updates | 00:58 |
| bobweaver | ahh | 00:58 |
| bobweaver | tgm4883, what are deps on package ? | 00:58 |
| tgm4883 | should be a quick reinstall | 00:58 |
| bobweaver | when you get a chance | 00:58 |
| tgm4883 | I didn't have to install any new deps | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | just the one package I think | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | I installed 2, but i think it's just the one | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, mhall119 confirmed that the issue exists on a fully updated 12.04 vm, and that both packages need to be upgraded | 01:54 |
| tgm4883 | updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dee/+bug/1096708 | 01:54 |
| bobweaver | you know what thi is going to be a paing in the rear but I am going to try and upgrade all this to 12.10 | 01:57 |
| mhall119 | tgm4883: nice, hopefully that'll make it easy for them to backport a fix | 01:57 |
| bobweaver | or 13.04 | 01:57 |
| bobweaver | this is going to be hard to do but it is worth a shot | 01:58 |
| mhall119 | why will it be hard? | 01:58 |
| bobweaver | because there where many changes to unity that made it so 2d would not build | 01:59 |
| bobweaver | that is only reason that I am still on 12.04 | 01:59 |
| bobweaver | brb booting into new version | 01:59 |
| dcope | are you all installing tv over 12.04 or 12.10? | 16:08 |
| tgm4883 | dcope, currently bobweaver has alpha code on 12.04 | 16:35 |
| dcope | tgm4883: ah, nice | 16:36 |
| dcope | is there any timeframe for releases? | 16:36 |
| tgm4883 | dcope, IDK, you'd have to ask bobweaver ;) | 16:37 |
| dcope | i'd like to contribute and test... finally bought parts for my htpc yesterday, just waiting for them to arrive | 16:37 |
| bobweaver | yes dcope it is just a messaround ppa nothing that is set in stone just personal | 16:37 |
| dcope | ok | 16:37 |
| bobweaver | dcope, the ppa is u2t/bleedingedge | 16:37 |
| dcope | yeah, still have it bookmarked | 16:38 |
| dcope | don't think i'm going to be able to try the tuner stuff, i'm planning on cancelling directv once all my parts get in | 16:38 |
| bobweaver | but again it just Ubuntu Tv Mock up that I used to make into something so that I could use it at home | 16:38 |
| dcope | maybe tuner for digital if i can find a good antenna that is small | 16:38 |
| bobweaver | dcope, my antenna is made out of 2X4's and copper wire and solder it is 4 foot tall and ugly | 16:40 |
| dcope | haha | 16:40 |
| bobweaver | << can afford cable atm | 16:40 |
| dcope | i can afford it but it's a useless expense. plus, directv is increasing their prices this year. | 16:40 |
| dcope | i would like to get some sort of sabnzb integration with ubuntu tv | 16:40 |
| A329 | g'day you all | 18:07 |
| A329 | I think that this is a pretty nice project | 18:07 |
| A329 | I wanna participate it, and try it | 18:08 |
| A329 | I have a question regarding the hardware stuff needed: can be used any kind of ARM / android devices ? | 18:09 |
| A329 | for isntanace I have an woxter tv 200 android set box | 18:10 |
| A329 | a woxter tv 200 android set box | 18:10 |
| A329 | if anyone have a bit experience with the ubuntu tv ecosystem I will appreciate his experience to talk me about the project just only to have a good start point | 18:12 |
| A329 | g'day anyone alive | 18:21 |
| A329 | ? | 18:21 |
| A329 | hi sjesek | 18:22 |
| A329 | hi shesek | 18:22 |
| shesek | hey | 18:28 |
| shesek | do I know you? | 18:29 |
| A329 | i am fine | 18:31 |
| A329 | nop I am new | 18:32 |
| A329 | I wanna gather experiences with people that works with ubuntu tv | 18:32 |
| A329 | hardware platform supported: any ARM device with HDMI connector can be useed | 18:34 |
| shesek | I'm afraid I'm just lurking around, I don't have much to do with ubuntu tv development | 18:34 |
| shesek | or with ubuntu tv at all, really | 18:35 |
| A329 | thanks | 18:35 |
| A329 | sounds a nea project | 18:36 |
| A329 | neat | 18:36 |
| A329 | the problem are around the media sources | 18:37 |
| A329 | the ecosystem of services | 18:37 |
| A329 | he main problem that the whole manufacturing tv sets are trying to move people to a specific media content | 18:38 |
| A329 | and are different among platforms | 18:38 |
| A329 | is a war of "smart tv" solutions but it the media content does not converge in a standarization will got a frustated solution | 18:41 |
| A329 | technically: google tv, android tv, apple tv are pretty clouse technically with different GUI | 18:42 |
| A329 | and I will don't buy the whole brands products in order to access all medias | 18:43 |
| tgm4883 | A329, I've got to go switch out a few power strips in 2 of our server cabinets at work, but I can probably answer most of your questions later | 18:51 |
| A329 | thks tgm4883 | 18:52 |
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| mhall119 | A329: TV is a tough business to crack, certainly | 19:34 |
| mhall119 | it's certainly going to take more than just a pretty UI | 19:35 |
| A39 | sorry | 19:47 |
| A39 | I lost the connection | 19:47 |
| A39 | I am A329 | 19:48 |
| A39 | the main problem of smart tv is not the application implementation for itself | 19:49 |
| A39 | the huge problem that i see that the whole television set should have a standarization of source media to broadcast | 19:50 |
| A39 | smart tv solutions does not go to win if sony, LG, set top boxes, does not have the capabilities to share the same content | 19:51 |
| A39 | I am not talking about private content | 19:52 |
| A39 | located at home | 19:52 |
| A39 | for instance should exist an amgnostic provider that serve the medias | 19:54 |
| A39 | to all boxes like in radio internet approach we have vTuner pr skeezebox | 19:55 |
| A39 | or* | 19:55 |
| tgm4883 | A39, that is far more dependent on content providers than on manufacturers | 20:14 |
| A329 | sorry again here | 20:25 |
| A329 | the mini mac enter into suspense mode and I lost the connection | 20:26 |
| A329 | yep I am agree with you | 20:26 |
| A329 | this is a provider problem | 20:27 |
| A329 | but regarding the user | 20:33 |
| A329 | is a stoper of smart tech | 20:33 |
| tgm4883 | A329, not sure I follow what you are saying about the user | 20:36 |
| A329 | user = the customer that bought a tv set with smart tv | 20:38 |
| A329 | the content differ among tv brands | 20:38 |
| A329 | sony on its brand brodcast sony films | 20:39 |
| A329 | that LG does not have the chance to watch it | 20:39 |
| A329 | if we have a provider entity out of tv brands that sells access to source content | 20:41 |
| A329 | the customer chance to access it without depending tv set brand | 20:42 |
| A329 | something close to vtuner on radio | 20:42 |
| A329 | vnter are spread out sony, yamaha, denon....... what ever | 20:42 |
| A329 | and vtner will charge for the connection service to all brands | 20:43 |
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