[00:22] mhall119, is it just me, or does sharedmodel not support append using python 3 on 12.04? [00:24] tgm4883: what is sharedmodel? [00:24] when adding results from a scope [00:25] looks like its part of deemodel [00:25] or deesharedmodel [00:25] oh [00:26] it's the only thing I can think of here, the same code works fine on 12.10 using python 3, and that part of the code didn't actually change between my python 2 and 3 port [00:26] so it seems to be an issue only with sharedmodel with python 3 on 12.04 [00:28] model = search.props.results_model [00:28] it comes from that [00:28] it could be, I think there may have been some hacks in the python2-gir code that may have been removed in the python3 version [00:28] Oo [00:28] tgm4883: try .append_row [00:29] mhall119, yea I tried that, it only accepts 2 things [00:29] that's in Dee.Model [00:29] not 8 [00:29] IDK what it's looking for though [00:29] tgm4883: maybe pass it a list or tuple of the values? [00:29] mhall119, can scopes listen to other dbus things ? [00:30] like com.canonical.whatever.gsshema.xml [00:30] bobweaver: yeah, they can listed to anything [00:30] listen [00:31] hmm, not so much [00:31] Expected GLib.Variant [00:31] :/ [00:32] the C API shows both, so something's going wrong in the GIR translation [00:32] http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/c/dee/dee-1.0-DeeModel.html [00:32] if you like have on com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash mythip-backend it can listent to that and you can put that in python so there is no need to read extrenal files ? [00:33] mhall119, bug report? [00:33] bobweaver: I'm not following [00:33] mhall119, this sounds like something that isn't going to be fixed :/ [00:33] if it is in fact a bug [00:33] tgm4883: yeah, against libdee [00:33] tgm4883: it might be, something was done to make it work in python3 [00:34] ok, i'll file a bug report [00:34] mhall119, say I have on the path com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash a Key that is "mythip-backend" can I use that somehow as a var in python in a lens or scope. so like instead of hardcoding in a 192.168.whatever I can use that or instead of making a local file I can use that. :) [00:34] key is set to string [00:35] bobweaver: oh, a dconf key? yeah you can read that [00:35] mhall119, I think that that would make things more intergrated with Unity [00:35] bobweaver: see the code example here: http://mhall119.com/2012/12/adding-privacy-setting-support-to-your-unity-lens/ [00:35] because then one can just pass the com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash previews [00:36] or other things like having the vars in the py set dconf stuff [00:36] then user can also change this things or add things like say com.canonical.Unity2d.Dash add.video.source [00:37] I will look at that example thanks [00:37] << py noob [00:37] bobweaver: currently yes, in the future sandboxing might prevent it from being able to set those keys [00:39] sweet [00:40] mhall119, would I expect to be able to resolve it by installing the libdee version from 12.10? because that doesn't fix it [00:41] tgm4883, you are tying to get the scope going on virtual thingy ? and it is libdee ? [00:41] yea [00:41] new scope in 12.04 [00:41] tgm4883: I wouldn't think so, it's probably in python3-gi, but filing the bug against libdee should get the right people looking into it [00:41] ok [00:42] since both python2 and python3 are just using gir1.2-dee-1.0 [00:43] so I had this Great Idea that if I make a glib path and key for effects in qml. Then users could change all the ways that things are loading ect by using the dash config thingy that I made. but after spending 2 hours getting that going I found out that you can not set easing.type: waste of time lol [00:45] making all these "effects" so that user can set it would be cool [00:45] http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt/qml-propertyanimation.html#easing.type-prop [00:46] I am just going to have to make a custon element I think [00:49] mhall119, yep, gir1.2-dee-1.0. Installing the 12.10 version of that fixed it. Opened up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dee/+bug/1096708 [00:50] oh really? what version did you have? [00:51] it was a fresh 12.04.1 vm install, so probably 1.0.10 [00:51] 1.0.14 is in 12.10 [00:53] bobweaver, ^^ [00:54] mhall119, I'll do another clean install and verify [00:55] tgm4883, let me look at what I got [00:56] libdee-1.0-4 [00:57] apt-cache policy libdee-dev [00:57] libdee-dev: [00:57] Installed: 1.0.10-0ubuntu1 [00:57] maybe I should try to push unity up to that ? [00:57] bobweaver, i'm installing again to verify it's just the one package and that a full update doesn't fix it [00:58] since I forgot this was a fresh 12.04.1 VM install without updates [00:58] ahh [00:58] tgm4883, what are deps on package ? [00:58] should be a quick reinstall [00:58] when you get a chance [00:59] I didn't have to install any new deps [00:59] just the one package I think [00:59] I installed 2, but i think it's just the one [01:54] bobweaver, mhall119 confirmed that the issue exists on a fully updated 12.04 vm, and that both packages need to be upgraded [01:54] updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dee/+bug/1096708 [01:57] you know what thi is going to be a paing in the rear but I am going to try and upgrade all this to 12.10 [01:57] tgm4883: nice, hopefully that'll make it easy for them to backport a fix [01:57] or 13.04 [01:58] this is going to be hard to do but it is worth a shot [01:58] why will it be hard? [01:59] because there where many changes to unity that made it so 2d would not build [01:59] that is only reason that I am still on 12.04 [01:59] brb booting into new version [16:08] are you all installing tv over 12.04 or 12.10? [16:35] dcope, currently bobweaver has alpha code on 12.04 [16:36] tgm4883: ah, nice [16:36] is there any timeframe for releases? [16:37] dcope, IDK, you'd have to ask bobweaver ;) [16:37] i'd like to contribute and test... finally bought parts for my htpc yesterday, just waiting for them to arrive [16:37] yes dcope it is just a messaround ppa nothing that is set in stone just personal [16:37] ok [16:37] dcope, the ppa is u2t/bleedingedge [16:38] yeah, still have it bookmarked [16:38] don't think i'm going to be able to try the tuner stuff, i'm planning on cancelling directv once all my parts get in [16:38] but again it just Ubuntu Tv Mock up that I used to make into something so that I could use it at home [16:38] maybe tuner for digital if i can find a good antenna that is small [16:40] dcope, my antenna is made out of 2X4's and copper wire and solder it is 4 foot tall and ugly [16:40] haha [16:40] << can afford cable atm [16:40] i can afford it but it's a useless expense. plus, directv is increasing their prices this year. [16:40] i would like to get some sort of sabnzb integration with ubuntu tv [18:07] g'day you all [18:07] I think that this is a pretty nice project [18:08] I wanna participate it, and try it [18:09] I have a question regarding the hardware stuff needed: can be used any kind of ARM / android devices ? [18:10] for isntanace I have an woxter tv 200 android set box [18:10] a woxter tv 200 android set box [18:12] if anyone have a bit experience with the ubuntu tv ecosystem I will appreciate his experience to talk me about the project just only to have a good start point [18:21] g'day anyone alive [18:21] ? [18:22] hi sjesek [18:22] hi shesek [18:28] hey [18:29] do I know you? [18:31] i am fine [18:32] nop I am new [18:32] I wanna gather experiences with people that works with ubuntu tv [18:34] hardware platform supported: any ARM device with HDMI connector can be useed [18:34] I'm afraid I'm just lurking around, I don't have much to do with ubuntu tv development [18:35] or with ubuntu tv at all, really [18:35] thanks [18:36] sounds a nea project [18:36] neat [18:37] the problem are around the media sources [18:37] the ecosystem of services [18:38] he main problem that the whole manufacturing tv sets are trying to move people to a specific media content [18:38] and are different among platforms [18:41] is a war of "smart tv" solutions but it the media content does not converge in a standarization will got a frustated solution [18:42] technically: google tv, android tv, apple tv are pretty clouse technically with different GUI [18:43] and I will don't buy the whole brands products in order to access all medias [18:51] A329, I've got to go switch out a few power strips in 2 of our server cabinets at work, but I can probably answer most of your questions later [18:52] thks tgm4883 === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [19:34] A329: TV is a tough business to crack, certainly [19:35] it's certainly going to take more than just a pretty UI [19:47] sorry [19:47] I lost the connection [19:48] I am A329 [19:49] the main problem of smart tv is not the application implementation for itself [19:50] the huge problem that i see that the whole television set should have a standarization of source media to broadcast [19:51] smart tv solutions does not go to win if sony, LG, set top boxes, does not have the capabilities to share the same content [19:52] I am not talking about private content [19:52] located at home [19:54] for instance should exist an amgnostic provider that serve the medias [19:55] to all boxes like in radio internet approach we have vTuner pr skeezebox [19:55] or* [20:14] A39, that is far more dependent on content providers than on manufacturers [20:25] sorry again here [20:26] the mini mac enter into suspense mode and I lost the connection [20:26] yep I am agree with you [20:27] this is a provider problem [20:33] but regarding the user [20:33] is a stoper of smart tech [20:36] A329, not sure I follow what you are saying about the user [20:38] user = the customer that bought a tv set with smart tv [20:38] the content differ among tv brands [20:39] sony on its brand brodcast sony films [20:39] that LG does not have the chance to watch it [20:41] if we have a provider entity out of tv brands that sells access to source content [20:42] the customer chance to access it without depending tv set brand [20:42] something close to vtuner on radio [20:42] vnter are spread out sony, yamaha, denon....... what ever [20:43] and vtner will charge for the connection service to all brands