| jussi | shadeslayer: ping when you get up. any chance of a ppa with KTP in it that has the auth stuff? I accidentally updated and broke everything... | 05:42 |
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| vHanda | Riddell: :) | 05:50 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:00 |
| jussi | morning soee | 07:10 |
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| shadeslayer | Laney: Riddell funnily enough I was looking into building ktp-call-ui with the older gst yesterday, rdieter put his patches up at http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ktp/ | 08:21 |
| shadeslayer | Was going to reply today, but thanks a ton Laney | 08:21 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: kinda | 08:23 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds | 08:23 |
| shadeslayer | I haven't gotten around to testing those packages yet | 08:24 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: ok, lets hope someone tests them soon, I havent got the home pc handy and Ill wait for testing on the work pc | 08:24 |
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| shadeslayer | well this is fun | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | kwallet lost all my passwords | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | and it's completely empty | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | and crash | 09:58 |
| soee | might be the same reason Netbeans doesnt hold passwords for servers ? | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | nah | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | some weird problem with kwalletd I think | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | restarted it and it worked | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | re | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | salut mes amis | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: shadeslayer wanted to look into porting | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | uh yeah, maybe a couple of months down the line | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | I'm looking into pgst right now | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | not time for anything else | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | *no | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | or rather than months, once I finish pgst | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that's what I meant | 10:21 |
| Laney | shadeslayer: merci, will upload that stuff tomorrow | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | aka the question was who will port to gst1 | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | right | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer | from what I recall qgst needs porting first | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: and yes they all need portery, which depending on whether those pieces of software do some sort of device listing it may be impossible to do :P | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pgst does not use qgst :P | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: not pgst, i meant that in order to port ktp call ui qgst needs porting first | 10:23 |
| shadeslayer | since it uses qgst | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | ah yes | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | that makes sense | 10:23 |
| shadeslayer | not to mention gst1.0 is missing stuff so it'll contain workarounds till gst1.0 gets fixed | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | qtwebkit needs a direct port (i.e. I think it does not use qgst) | 10:24 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 10:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: seeing you on IRC after quite some time | 10:24 |
| shadeslayer | didn't qtwebkit use phonon :P | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | the fact that gst1 is missing stuff is why i fear it may be hard to port some stuff at all | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | as you essentially needed to implement direct device probing via alsa, pulse, whathaveyou | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | Trevor said that it's a acceptable workaround till gst1.0 gets fixed | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer | which I think is later this year | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | for phonon, yes, since we have the alsa probing in place | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | (that actually would also not be possible with phonon5 as that is supposed to have only backend driven probing ... hooray for gst1 trololo) | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer | btw ndisgtk is still using python2 right? | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | raring has python3 port | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | btw can someone upload the l10n magic for quantal to beta backports? | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | anyone wants to sort through my mail and reply 'yes' to every? | 11:06 |
| * davmor2 quickly send a mail to apachelogger asking for a cheque for 1 Million Pounds Muhahahahaahaha ;) | 11:13 | |
| mikhas | apachelogger, what about the viagra mails? | 11:16 |
| mikhas | are you sure you need a 10 years supply? | 11:17 |
| Riddell | "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil." isn't it annoying when there's a non-free licence term in amongst otherwise GPL code | 11:49 |
| sheytan | Hey guys | 11:54 |
| sheytan | please include kipi-plugins to kubuntu default insta.. | 11:54 |
| sheytan | install* | 11:54 |
| sheytan | in gwenview there's a 'share' button, but it says no plugins found. This is confusing ;) | 11:54 |
| sheytan | btw, you can add more wallpapers now, too | 11:55 |
| sheytan | we have space :) | 11:55 |
| Riddell | sheytan: it pulls in a bunch of stuff which means it takes up a lot of space | 11:55 |
| Riddell | including fun stuff like libwxgtk2.8-0 | 11:55 |
| sheytan | Riddell so please put a notification helper | 11:56 |
| sheytan | like rekonq has for it ;) | 11:56 |
| sheytan | while first run gwenview | 11:56 |
| Riddell | it's a thought | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | and maybe we can also add a helper for nepomuk-ffmpeg extractor now that we have a separate package for it? | 11:57 |
| vHanda | btw, don't you have something similar for strigi? | 11:58 |
| vHanda | strigi-ffmpeg? | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you forgot a description for the ffmpeg extractor :P | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: not that I can see | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | apt-cache search strigi | grep ffmpeg returns nothing | 11:59 |
| vHanda | weird. I basically just copied the code from strigi, and then optimized it a little | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | -- Could NOT find FFmpeg (missing: AVCODEC_LIBRARIES AVCODEC_INCLUDE_DIRS AVFORMAT_LIBRARIES AVFORMAT_INCLUDE_DIRS) | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | we don't build with ffmpeg stuff ;) | 12:00 |
| sheytan | see? Thank me you have another stuff to do :D | 12:04 |
| sheytan | btw, the notification helper is a good stuff | 12:05 |
| sheytan | i have a nice list at home, what i would love to improve in next kubuntu. Will share that today evening ;) | 12:05 |
| Riddell | sheytan: I'll look forward to it :) | 12:21 |
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| apachelogger | "KDE 4.10 release schedule changes, was: We are having RC3 was: Re: Another RC?, was: Re: Akonadi-Nepomuk Feeder Improvements" <- le lol | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | mikhas: surely not bad to have a 10 year supply of viagra | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | davmor2: must have ended up in spam | 12:34 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: damn you and your spam filtering running my chances at millions ;) | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:12 |
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| soee | uhm | 14:26 |
| soee | For certain workloads with the Linux 3.8 kernel the physical memory usage is lowered by a significant amount thanks to improvements within this kernel that's presently under development... | 14:26 |
| soee | sound good | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | hope it works better then the 3.7 does on my system | 14:41 |
| BluesKaj | than | 14:41 |
| BluesKaj | well , the 3.7 kernel doesn't work at all wiuth my graphics card , geforce 8400gs | 14:42 |
| soee | ;D | 14:43 |
| soee | 12.10 uses 3.5.x ? | 14:44 |
| BluesKaj | soee, yes , the 3.7 is available and I tried it unsuccessfully | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | on 12.10 | 14:49 |
| soee | and 13.04 will be shipped with ? | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | it's default with 13.04 | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | so far | 14:50 |
| soee | so are there any chance to put 3.8 there ? | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | I'm hoping the 3.8 has the amd and intel 64 bit HW drivers issues solved | 14:51 |
| soee | what issue ? | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | 3.8 is in rc2 stage I believe | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | it's difficult to tell from my perspective since using noapci and nomodest to get to the desktop is the only method that works on the live-dvd for my pc ...installing hangs and goes nowhere | 14:54 |
| BluesKaj | and I've seesn compalints and reports about some amd and intel 64bit pcs having the same problems | 14:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what's the status of plasma active 3? | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | Mostly done | 15:01 |
| Riddell | wondering because okular is wanting a build-dep on activeapp | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | awaiting testing on an ExoPC | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | which will be sometime today | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | assuming Shaan7 shows up :) | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... activeapp ... don't remember what I did with those headers | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: build okular with plasma-active-dev in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages | 15:03 |
| Riddell | well best to just leave it until it's in the archive I guess | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | *nod*\ | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | I think we can upload it on Mondau | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | *Monday | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | assuming Shaan7 tests it | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | along with kio-mtp | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: or rather, can you review and upload kio-mtp? | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | Scott can pass it from New then | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | it's in the experimental PPA | 15:07 |
| Riddell | can do | 15:08 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but you'll need to do libwlocate in return for me :) | 15:08 |
| Riddell | freeflying: how come libqaccessibilityclient is in a git repo called libkde... ? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | sorry not freeflying | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | upload libwlocate? I don't think I have upload rights | 15:09 |
| Riddell | fregl: how come libqaccessibilityclient is in a git repo called libkde... ? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: nah but can you review the packaging? it's in kubuntu-ppa/experimental | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | ahh sure | 15:09 |
| freeflying | Riddell: no worries :) | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | ->dinner() | 15:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kio-mtp upstream fail, files say gpl2 but LICENCE file is gpl 3 | 15:14 |
| * Riddell fixes | 15:14 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: uploaded! | 15:24 |
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| sheytan | Guys! | 15:38 |
| sheytan | any news about optimus for 13.04? | 15:38 |
| sheytan | im about to buy dell 15z, but i had to read alot about it to get it even boot ;D | 15:38 |
| Riddell | what is optimus? | 15:41 |
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| sheytan | Riddell Nvidia / intelHD switching in notebooks for powersave | 15:56 |
| sheytan | i can't get nvidia to work | 15:57 |
| sheytan | no opengl sucks ;( | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | I switch off my discrete card | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | just boot it using the intel card | 16:00 |
| fregl | Riddell: it got renamed afterwards... it's the fourth name or so... | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 16:02 |
| Riddell | fregl: I presume I don't want to package accessibleapps? | 16:03 |
| Riddell | fregl: well infact first question would be do I want to package this at all? | 16:04 |
| Riddell | kmag wants it but I don't know how ready it is | 16:05 |
| fregl | Riddell: it should have a release, but I got scared when Sebastian made random api changes at some point, though I think they were not in public api... | 16:05 |
| fregl | Riddell: it enables kmag to track the keyboard focus and it will also help Simon doing better integration with the normal desktop | 16:06 |
| Riddell | sounds like something we want | 16:06 |
| fregl | Riddell: I would love feedback and a nudge to make a release I guess... I haven't looked at it too much lately. in the end I guess I can make a release and we can always bump .so version if needed | 16:07 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer: it's impossible in this device | 16:07 |
| sheytan | i thought about | 16:07 |
| fregl | Riddell: btw, do you guys have Simon 0.4 or whatever was released packages? that would be nice too - it finally got rid of all non-free dependencies for good too :) | 16:08 |
| Riddell | fregl: that's next on my todo list | 16:08 |
| fregl | \o/ | 16:09 |
| Riddell | hi jessie_ | 16:30 |
| jessie_ | Howdy, Riddell | 16:31 |
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| yofel_ | shadeslayer: Launchpad was so nice to remind me why I used boost 1.46 so far: | 17:47 |
| yofel_ | libboost1.48-dev : Conflicts: libboost1.46-dev but 1.46.1-7ubuntu3 is to be installed | 17:47 |
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| yofel | now lets see what actually pulls that in | 17:47 |
| yofel | akonadi... | 17:57 |
| BluesKaj | tried the 3.8-rc2 kernel , but it couldn't find apport even tho it's installed | 17:58 |
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| yofel | JontheEchidna: is it somehow possible to build qapt 1.9.65 on precise? Currently it fails and I don't get what the error is trying to tell me: https://i127870061.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/127870061/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.qapt_1.9.65-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=9393704e4873661901e2ae148d08bc40 | 18:24 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel: 404's forme | 18:25 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2915497/+listing-archive-extra | 18:25 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, 12.04's GCC is too old | 18:25 |
| yofel | urgh | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | is QApt 2.x particularly needed for 12.04? | 18:26 |
| yofel | well, shadeslayer was trying to backport 4.10 to precise, and kde-runtime is stuck on qapt | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, for the new language installation patch | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 18:28 |
| yofel | I guess we could excavate the old qapt implementation in kde-runtime... | 18:28 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: wait | 18:28 |
| yofel | only for that? | 18:28 |
| yofel | we don't even need that in precise | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | should be only that | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | it'd probably be fine to drop the patch | 18:28 |
| yofel | I'll try that then first | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | that's probably what shadeslayer was trying to ping me about the other day. I tried pinging him back but he hasn't responded yet | 18:29 |
| yofel | heh | 18:29 |
| JontheEchidna | I think my sleep schedule has drifted to the opposite of shadeslayer's :s | 18:30 |
| soee | i have installed nvidi driver, but it says "This driver is activated but not currently in use" | 21:24 |
| soee | any idea why? | 21:24 |
| yofel | soee: -> #kubuntu | 21:25 |
| BluesKaj | soee, it's abug , Have the same indication, but if you run, dpkg -l | grep nvidia , you'll see the driver in use above NVIDIA binary Xorg driver | 21:28 |
| sheytan | Riddell till now: http://pastebin.com/utCqtE3C | 21:33 |
| Riddell | sheytan: could you e-mail that to kubuntu-devel so it doesn't get lost? | 21:35 |
| yofel | sheytan: re chromium - tried rekonq 2 yet? It's quite usable | 21:40 |
| sheytan | yofel: quite usable is not the point ;) | 21:40 |
| sheytan | plus in chrome you've got that magic called "synching" ;) | 21:41 |
| sheytan | and flash out of the box | 21:41 |
| yofel | I don't believe we have flash out of the box in chromium - that's chrome | 21:41 |
| yofel | IIRC firefox can sync too | 21:41 |
| sheytan | ok, it might be chrome only. with ff i have to agree too, but anyway :D | 21:42 |
| yofel | I know they have nice points, but I believe rekonq is still better integrated | 21:43 |
| yofel | firefox is probably out until the patches get back in (if ever), and i'm not sure how much security updates chromium gets in ubuntu | 21:44 |
| sheytan | i've tried it. With more then 10 tabs opend it works slowly. I'm using more then 20 sometimes | 21:44 |
| yofel | if it's speed with number of tabs open then firefox wins for me, chromium is a bit of a memory hog | 21:44 |
| yofel | but yeah, it did notice that with rekonq | 21:45 |
| yofel | (but I'm still running 1.80, so I hope 2.0 is better there) | 21:45 |
| yofel | IIRC VLC was a license question | 21:46 |
| yofel | and if people need a better video player than dragon I believe it's easy to find one in muon | 21:46 |
| sheytan | this list is my personall feeling. You don't have to agree with me and i'm not like: EVERYTHING MUST BE THE WAY I WANT IT, so it's all to disquss | 21:46 |
| sheytan | btw muon | 21:46 |
| sheytan | this is hmmm | 21:47 |
| sheytan | not quite a software center | 21:47 |
| yofel | tried muon-discover? | 21:47 |
| sheytan | hope that thing someones is workign on with qml | 21:47 |
| sheytan | will be better | 21:47 |
| sheytan | yofel: will try it now | 21:48 |
| sheytan | i have a test machine with today's 13.04 build | 21:48 |
| sheytan | yofel: looks like a gimp challange for me :D | 21:50 |
| sheytan | who is working on this little baby? | 21:50 |
| yofel | iirc apol | 21:54 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna will know more | 21:54 |
| yofel | sheytan: as for the rest, kipi-plugins is a good idea, the samba kcm is indeed a pain | 21:57 |
| yofel | what's wrong with the wallpaper? | 21:57 |
| sheytan | there's only one? :) | 21:57 |
| sheytan | instead the 'install more' button, just add the default ones, or like ubuntu, make a contest to choose new :) | 21:58 |
| sheytan | what if you don't have internet access or are on 3G? | 21:58 |
| sheytan | like me | 21:58 |
| sheytan | i don't want to spent my trasfer on things that suppose to be already installed :) | 21:58 |
| yofel | the problem here is image space... the full kde-wallpapers tarball is 87MB now | 22:18 |
| allee | afiestas: is default behavior still the one you described in your blog video screen management got magic? | 22:20 |
| allee | afiestas: for me external (vga) monitor is not automaticly actived (or the right). It's in off mode. | 22:20 |
| allee | afiestas: windows on external screen are not moved to the laptop screen when external monitor is unplugged :-( | 22:21 |
| allee | Still much magic missing ;-) | 22:21 |
| afiestas | allee: you shouldn't use git snapshots, that kind of shit happen | 22:22 |
| yofel | and here I thought I'm the only one that needs xrandr to properly set his external monitor up | 22:22 |
| afiestas | we haven't said it is "package ready" but well it was to be expected I guess | 22:22 |
| afiestas | if you update ot latest master, it should work | 22:22 |
| afiestas | we have had some breakage and we still have some | 22:22 |
| afiestas | for example Wacom eats some X11 events | 22:22 |
| allee | afiestas: no offence intended! I've updated ~ 2 hours ago to git master (lib)kscreen to get the fixes of my last bug report included. | 22:23 |
| afiestas | update everything always, not offence taken | 22:24 |
| afiestas | and disable wacom kded if you want "hot plug" to work | 22:24 |
| allee | afiestas: Ping me when it's a good time to sync pkgs with git in the meantime I work on the (not yet existing) quality of the pkgs ;-) | 22:25 |
| * allee checks wacom stuff ... | 22:25 | |
| afiestas | allee: as I said, package everything asap | 22:25 |
| afiestas | critical stuf is being touched/improved/broken one commit could work, the next one break everything | 22:25 |
| jessie_ | afiestas: ARe you the maker of kscreen? | 22:27 |
| allee | afiestas: :-) That's why I asked. I don't want to waste time to create valuable bug report when you know that git is currently broken. You can imply that I've tried with current master when I ask/report | 22:28 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: 4.10 for precise is done once you have time to backport indi, that seems to need some other libs backported and I don't have time to look at the risks right now | 22:31 |
| sheytan | yofell: we don't have to fit into a CD anymore ;) | 22:37 |
| yofel | it turns out that there's plenty of other things you can fill 1G with... | 22:41 |
| yofel | I haven't looked at the current size though, so maybe we can do something | 22:41 |
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