[05:42] shadeslayer: ping when you get up. any chance of a ppa with KTP in it that has the auth stuff? I accidentally updated and broke everything... [05:50] Riddell: :) === mkv is now known as m4v [07:00] good morning [07:10] morning soee === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [08:21] Laney: Riddell funnily enough I was looking into building ktp-call-ui with the older gst yesterday, rdieter put his patches up at http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ktp/ [08:21] Was going to reply today, but thanks a ton Laney [08:23] jussi: kinda [08:23] jussi: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds [08:24] I haven't gotten around to testing those packages yet [08:24] shadeslayer: ok, lets hope someone tests them soon, I havent got the home pc handy and Ill wait for testing on the work pc === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [09:58] well this is fun [09:58] kwallet lost all my passwords [09:58] and it's completely empty [09:58] and crash [10:07] might be the same reason Netbeans doesnt hold passwords for servers ? [10:07] nah [10:07] some weird problem with kwalletd I think [10:08] restarted it and it worked [10:19] re [10:20] salut mes amis [10:20] Riddell: shadeslayer wanted to look into porting [10:21] uh yeah, maybe a couple of months down the line [10:21] I'm looking into pgst right now [10:21] not time for anything else [10:21] *no [10:21] or rather than months, once I finish pgst [10:21] shadeslayer: that's what I meant [10:21] shadeslayer: merci, will upload that stuff tomorrow [10:21] sure [10:21] aka the question was who will port to gst1 [10:22] right [10:22] from what I recall qgst needs porting first [10:22] Riddell: and yes they all need portery, which depending on whether those pieces of software do some sort of device listing it may be impossible to do :P [10:22] shadeslayer: pgst does not use qgst :P [10:23] apachelogger: not pgst, i meant that in order to port ktp call ui qgst needs porting first [10:23] since it uses qgst [10:23] ah yes [10:23] that makes sense [10:24] not to mention gst1.0 is missing stuff so it'll contain workarounds till gst1.0 gets fixed [10:24] qtwebkit needs a direct port (i.e. I think it does not use qgst) [10:24] hmm [10:24] apachelogger: seeing you on IRC after quite some time [10:25] didn't qtwebkit use phonon :P [10:25] the fact that gst1 is missing stuff is why i fear it may be hard to port some stuff at all [10:25] yep [10:25] as you essentially needed to implement direct device probing via alsa, pulse, whathaveyou [10:25] yeah [10:26] Trevor said that it's a acceptable workaround till gst1.0 gets fixed [10:26] which I think is later this year [10:26] for phonon, yes, since we have the alsa probing in place [10:26] *nod* [10:26] (that actually would also not be possible with phonon5 as that is supposed to have only backend driven probing ... hooray for gst1 trololo) [10:27] btw ndisgtk is still using python2 right? [10:27] ah [10:27] raring has python3 port [10:54] btw can someone upload the l10n magic for quantal to beta backports? [11:06] anyone wants to sort through my mail and reply 'yes' to every? [11:13] * davmor2 quickly send a mail to apachelogger asking for a cheque for 1 Million Pounds Muhahahahaahaha ;) [11:16] apachelogger, what about the viagra mails? [11:17] are you sure you need a 10 years supply? [11:49] "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil." isn't it annoying when there's a non-free licence term in amongst otherwise GPL code [11:54] Hey guys [11:54] please include kipi-plugins to kubuntu default insta.. [11:54] install* [11:54] in gwenview there's a 'share' button, but it says no plugins found. This is confusing ;) [11:55] btw, you can add more wallpapers now, too [11:55] we have space :) [11:55] sheytan: it pulls in a bunch of stuff which means it takes up a lot of space [11:55] including fun stuff like libwxgtk2.8-0 [11:56] Riddell so please put a notification helper [11:56] like rekonq has for it ;) [11:56] while first run gwenview [11:57] it's a thought [11:57] and maybe we can also add a helper for nepomuk-ffmpeg extractor now that we have a separate package for it? [11:58] btw, don't you have something similar for strigi? [11:58] strigi-ffmpeg? [11:58] Riddell: you forgot a description for the ffmpeg extractor :P [11:58] vHanda: not that I can see [11:59] apt-cache search strigi | grep ffmpeg returns nothing [11:59] weird. I basically just copied the code from strigi, and then optimized it a little [12:00] -- Could NOT find FFmpeg (missing: AVCODEC_LIBRARIES AVCODEC_INCLUDE_DIRS AVFORMAT_LIBRARIES AVFORMAT_INCLUDE_DIRS) [12:00] we don't build with ffmpeg stuff ;) [12:04] see? Thank me you have another stuff to do :D [12:05] btw, the notification helper is a good stuff [12:05] i have a nice list at home, what i would love to improve in next kubuntu. Will share that today evening ;) [12:21] sheytan: I'll look forward to it :) === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [12:33] "KDE 4.10 release schedule changes, was: We are having RC3 was: Re: Another RC?, was: Re: Akonadi-Nepomuk Feeder Improvements" <- le lol [12:34] mikhas: surely not bad to have a 10 year supply of viagra [12:34] davmor2: must have ended up in spam [12:35] apachelogger: damn you and your spam filtering running my chances at millions ;) [13:12] Hey all === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [14:26] uhm [14:26] For certain workloads with the Linux 3.8 kernel the physical memory usage is lowered by a significant amount thanks to improvements within this kernel that's presently under development... [14:26] sound good [14:41] hope it works better then the 3.7 does on my system [14:41] than [14:42] well , the 3.7 kernel doesn't work at all wiuth my graphics card , geforce 8400gs [14:43] ;D [14:44] 12.10 uses 3.5.x ? [14:49] soee, yes , the 3.7 is available and I tried it unsuccessfully [14:49] on 12.10 [14:50] and 13.04 will be shipped with ? [14:50] it's default with 13.04 [14:50] so far [14:50] so are there any chance to put 3.8 there ? [14:51] I'm hoping the 3.8 has the amd and intel 64 bit HW drivers issues solved [14:51] what issue ? [14:52] 3.8 is in rc2 stage I believe [14:54] it's difficult to tell from my perspective since using noapci and nomodest to get to the desktop is the only method that works on the live-dvd for my pc ...installing hangs and goes nowhere [14:56] and I've seesn compalints and reports about some amd and intel 64bit pcs having the same problems [15:00] shadeslayer: what's the status of plasma active 3? [15:01] Mostly done [15:01] wondering because okular is wanting a build-dep on activeapp [15:01] awaiting testing on an ExoPC [15:01] which will be sometime today [15:01] assuming Shaan7 shows up :) [15:02] hmm... activeapp ... don't remember what I did with those headers [15:03] Riddell: build okular with plasma-active-dev in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages [15:04] well best to just leave it until it's in the archive I guess [15:04] *nod*\ [15:05] I think we can upload it on Mondau [15:05] *Monday [15:05] assuming Shaan7 tests it [15:05] along with kio-mtp [15:06] Riddell: or rather, can you review and upload kio-mtp? [15:06] Scott can pass it from New then [15:07] it's in the experimental PPA [15:08] can do [15:08] shadeslayer: but you'll need to do libwlocate in return for me :) [15:09] freeflying: how come libqaccessibilityclient is in a git repo called libkde... ? [15:09] sorry not freeflying [15:09] upload libwlocate? I don't think I have upload rights [15:09] fregl: how come libqaccessibilityclient is in a git repo called libkde... ? [15:09] shadeslayer: nah but can you review the packaging? it's in kubuntu-ppa/experimental [15:09] ahh sure [15:10] Riddell: no worries :) [15:12] ->dinner() [15:14] shadeslayer: kio-mtp upstream fail, files say gpl2 but LICENCE file is gpl 3 [15:14] * Riddell fixes [15:24] shadeslayer: uploaded! === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [15:38] Guys! [15:38] any news about optimus for 13.04? [15:38] im about to buy dell 15z, but i had to read alot about it to get it even boot ;D [15:41] what is optimus? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [15:56] Riddell Nvidia / intelHD switching in notebooks for powersave [15:57] i can't get nvidia to work [15:57] no opengl sucks ;( [16:00] I switch off my discrete card [16:00] just boot it using the intel card [16:02] Riddell: it got renamed afterwards... it's the fourth name or so... [16:02] heh [16:03] fregl: I presume I don't want to package accessibleapps? [16:04] fregl: well infact first question would be do I want to package this at all? [16:05] kmag wants it but I don't know how ready it is [16:05] Riddell: it should have a release, but I got scared when Sebastian made random api changes at some point, though I think they were not in public api... [16:06] Riddell: it enables kmag to track the keyboard focus and it will also help Simon doing better integration with the normal desktop [16:06] sounds like something we want [16:07] Riddell: I would love feedback and a nudge to make a release I guess... I haven't looked at it too much lately. in the end I guess I can make a release and we can always bump .so version if needed [16:07] shadeslayer: it's impossible in this device [16:07] i thought about [16:08] Riddell: btw, do you guys have Simon 0.4 or whatever was released packages? that would be nice too - it finally got rid of all non-free dependencies for good too :) [16:08] fregl: that's next on my todo list [16:09] \o/ [16:30] hi jessie_ [16:31] Howdy, Riddell === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [17:47] shadeslayer: Launchpad was so nice to remind me why I used boost 1.46 so far: [17:47] libboost1.48-dev : Conflicts: libboost1.46-dev but 1.46.1-7ubuntu3 is to be installed === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:47] now lets see what actually pulls that in [17:57] akonadi... [17:58] tried the 3.8-rc2 kernel , but it couldn't find apport even tho it's installed === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [18:24] JontheEchidna: is it somehow possible to build qapt 1.9.65 on precise? Currently it fails and I don't get what the error is trying to tell me: https://i127870061.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/127870061/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.qapt_1.9.65-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=9393704e4873661901e2ae148d08bc40 [18:25] yofel: 404's forme [18:25] JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2915497/+listing-archive-extra [18:25] ah, 12.04's GCC is too old [18:26] urgh [18:26] is QApt 2.x particularly needed for 12.04? [18:26] well, shadeslayer was trying to backport 4.10 to precise, and kde-runtime is stuck on qapt [18:27] ah, for the new language installation patch [18:28] hmm [18:28] I guess we could excavate the old qapt implementation in kde-runtime... [18:28] JontheEchidna: wait [18:28] only for that? [18:28] we don't even need that in precise [18:28] should be only that [18:28] it'd probably be fine to drop the patch [18:28] I'll try that then first [18:29] that's probably what shadeslayer was trying to ping me about the other day. I tried pinging him back but he hasn't responded yet [18:29] heh [18:30] I think my sleep schedule has drifted to the opposite of shadeslayer's :s [21:24] i have installed nvidi driver, but it says "This driver is activated but not currently in use" [21:24] any idea why? [21:25] soee: -> #kubuntu [21:28] soee, it's abug , Have the same indication, but if you run, dpkg -l | grep nvidia , you'll see the driver in use above NVIDIA binary Xorg driver [21:33] Riddell till now: http://pastebin.com/utCqtE3C [21:35] sheytan: could you e-mail that to kubuntu-devel so it doesn't get lost? [21:40] sheytan: re chromium - tried rekonq 2 yet? It's quite usable [21:40] yofel: quite usable is not the point ;) [21:41] plus in chrome you've got that magic called "synching" ;) [21:41] and flash out of the box [21:41] I don't believe we have flash out of the box in chromium - that's chrome [21:41] IIRC firefox can sync too [21:42] ok, it might be chrome only. with ff i have to agree too, but anyway :D [21:43] I know they have nice points, but I believe rekonq is still better integrated [21:44] firefox is probably out until the patches get back in (if ever), and i'm not sure how much security updates chromium gets in ubuntu [21:44] i've tried it. With more then 10 tabs opend it works slowly. I'm using more then 20 sometimes [21:44] if it's speed with number of tabs open then firefox wins for me, chromium is a bit of a memory hog [21:45] but yeah, it did notice that with rekonq [21:45] (but I'm still running 1.80, so I hope 2.0 is better there) [21:46] IIRC VLC was a license question [21:46] and if people need a better video player than dragon I believe it's easy to find one in muon [21:46] this list is my personall feeling. You don't have to agree with me and i'm not like: EVERYTHING MUST BE THE WAY I WANT IT, so it's all to disquss [21:46] btw muon [21:47] this is hmmm [21:47] not quite a software center [21:47] tried muon-discover? [21:47] hope that thing someones is workign on with qml [21:47] will be better [21:48] yofel: will try it now [21:48] i have a test machine with today's 13.04 build [21:50] yofel: looks like a gimp challange for me :D [21:50] who is working on this little baby? [21:54] iirc apol [21:54] JontheEchidna will know more [21:57] sheytan: as for the rest, kipi-plugins is a good idea, the samba kcm is indeed a pain [21:57] what's wrong with the wallpaper? [21:57] there's only one? :) [21:58] instead the 'install more' button, just add the default ones, or like ubuntu, make a contest to choose new :) [21:58] what if you don't have internet access or are on 3G? [21:58] like me [21:58] i don't want to spent my trasfer on things that suppose to be already installed :) [22:18] the problem here is image space... the full kde-wallpapers tarball is 87MB now [22:20] afiestas: is default behavior still the one you described in your blog video screen management got magic? [22:20] afiestas: for me external (vga) monitor is not automaticly actived (or the right). It's in off mode. [22:21] afiestas: windows on external screen are not moved to the laptop screen when external monitor is unplugged :-( [22:21] Still much magic missing ;-) [22:22] allee: you shouldn't use git snapshots, that kind of shit happen [22:22] and here I thought I'm the only one that needs xrandr to properly set his external monitor up [22:22] we haven't said it is "package ready" but well it was to be expected I guess [22:22] if you update ot latest master, it should work [22:22] we have had some breakage and we still have some [22:22] for example Wacom eats some X11 events [22:23] afiestas: no offence intended! I've updated ~ 2 hours ago to git master (lib)kscreen to get the fixes of my last bug report included. [22:24] update everything always, not offence taken [22:24] and disable wacom kded if you want "hot plug" to work [22:25] afiestas: Ping me when it's a good time to sync pkgs with git in the meantime I work on the (not yet existing) quality of the pkgs ;-) [22:25] * allee checks wacom stuff ... [22:25] allee: as I said, package everything asap [22:25] critical stuf is being touched/improved/broken one commit could work, the next one break everything [22:27] afiestas: ARe you the maker of kscreen? [22:28] afiestas: :-) That's why I asked. I don't want to waste time to create valuable bug report when you know that git is currently broken. You can imply that I've tried with current master when I ask/report [22:31] shadeslayer: 4.10 for precise is done once you have time to backport indi, that seems to need some other libs backported and I don't have time to look at the risks right now [22:37] yofell: we don't have to fit into a CD anymore ;) [22:41] it turns out that there's plenty of other things you can fill 1G with... [22:41] I haven't looked at the current size though, so maybe we can do something