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decciWhen I try to install ubuntu 12.04. The installation cannot see the SAN storage device as shown http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/volumesnotdetected.jpg02:30
decci http://paste.ubuntu.com/1508279/02:31
vladimir_Why don't we have an standard in plug and play for all devices to conect them to ours PCs?03:50
vladimir_Why do we have to wait to some developers in order to have the hability to plug ours devices to our PCs?03:51
vladimir_To plug and play our devices in ours PCs must be mandatory..not an option of some company..it must be an universal right03:52
vladimir_Apple, Android, Window's Phone, all the Tablets must be able to plug and play in any pc, as a universal and mantatory option..03:55
vladimir_if I am disturbing someone here, please just tell me03:55
vladimir_And I will Shut up..03:56
rats__I agree vladimir_03:56
vladimir_ok, Rats_> but, you agree to what...to the universal plug and play..or you agree that I must shut up?03:57
rats__so I dont buy those devices03:57
vladimir_Well, actually, I am using Blackberry, because I need it in my work03:57
rats__so I dont buy those devices03:57
vladimir_Some people do simple have to use thouse devices03:57
rats__PnP03:58
vladimir_as a matter of Work..03:58
rats__just have to bite the bullet then03:59
vladimir_I think..that any device must have, as a default feature, the hability to plug and play in any OS..03:59
vladimir_I do use Linux, now I am writing from Kubuntu03:59
rats__I agree[3~03:59
rats__same03:59
rats__12.0404:00
vladimir_ok.. 12.04 its nice,04:00
rats__I like LTS distros04:01
vladimir_Me too..I was in 10.04 until 12.04 were released04:01
vladimir_But, I decided to try 12.1004:02
wormI like LTS if I am using KDE...04:03
rats__there was alot of things I liked better in 10.04 though04:04
worm10.10 improved a lot by adding Unity, and 12.04 removed some of my favorite behavior of the Unity dock. However Kubuntu is with almost the same experience.04:05
vladimir_For me KDE is spectacular..but Unity is simplicity..04:06
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vladimir_May be you wont see simplicity in Unity in a 30 minutes session. But if you use Unity in a intensive way..may be you will find its simplicity..its very practical04:07
vladimir_<worm> I think that Unity is better now than it was in 11.0404:08
juacom99Hi one question: Every time i boot my kubuntu 12.04 i get some of the desktop efects disable, when i go to Sysyem-settings->desktop effects->advanced->and change composition type (i got 2 xrender and openGl) i get the effecvts back. so what can i do so the effecvts are aveilables on boot?04:08
juacom99i got opengl 1.4 and a Gforce 730004:11
vladimir_<juacom99> In my case, and this is not a solution, I do not use Graphics Card..May be it can sound wild or strange, but I am not a Gamer nor a Image or Video Editor, so I do not need a Graphics card. And with the integrated graphics of my mother board I do have all de effects with no problem04:14
vladimir_<juacom99> In a lot of situations graphics cards work fine in Linux, but ussually a lot of users have problems with them04:16
juacom99vladimir_: mmm my mother don't support the effects, and i game a lot so i need that card :(04:16
vladimir_Ok, I understand04:16
vladimir_But check if you have lunux-headers-generic installed04:16
juacom99vladimir_: i think is not an issue with the grafic card since when i chnage the render type it enable the effects04:17
juacom99i'm almost suar i have lunux-headers-generic but let me check04:17
juacom99vladimir_: i'm guessing is a xorg.conf problem...04:18
vladimir_Check if you have installed linux-headers-generic this pakage is needed in order that any graphics card work fine04:18
juacom99i do version 3.2.0.35.4004:19
vladimir_<juancom99> well, may be it is xorg.conf... but give it a try to my point, and just check in google.. linux-headers-generic + graphics Cards + Linux + Ubuntu04:19
juacom99i'll give it a try thanks vladimir_04:20
vladimir_ok.. U're wellcome04:21
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kubuntuserhello08:03
sbivolkubuntuser: hi08:09
kubuntuserhi sbivol08:09
kubuntuseranyone tried the daily of today ?08:10
sbivolnot yet, but I plan to test Raring today08:15
kubuntusersbivol: i have the daily of yesterday tried on usb..08:16
kubuntusersbivol: i like it :)08:16
sbivolkubuntuser: I'm running 12.10 with KDE 4.9.9708:17
kubuntusersbivol: i have kde 4.9.97 in this build08:18
sbivolkubuntuser: could you please tell me what version of plasma-widget-networkmanagement is in 13.04?08:19
kubuntusersbivol: 0.9.0.5-0ubuntu308:20
sbivol:-| I was hoping it's 0.9.0.6 already...08:21
kubuntusersbivol: i don't know maybe the daily of today have it08:22
sbivolkubuntuser: talked to Riddell last week and he hinted that 0.9.0.6 will be in 13.04 :-)08:24
RagnaRok__#amd08:30
Jarrisin our small business kubuntu runs on our workstations, and we spend a lot time doing release upgrades each half year on each client. how do you deal with this?08:32
Jarrisare you using trminal-server or is there any reliable sort of upgrade routine? any hints are welcome08:32
sbivolJarris: a big speed gain would be setting a local APT mirror if you have 10+ workstations08:33
sbivolJarris: a tool from Canonical, Landscape, is intended to manage lots of workstations. I'm sure it handles upgrades as well08:34
Jarrissbivol: we have an apt-chacher08:35
shadeslayerUse LTS releases?08:35
Jarrisbut never heard abouit that tool08:35
shadeslayerupgrade every < 5 years and you should be good :)08:35
sbivolJarris: https://landscape.canonical.com/08:36
Jarrisshadeslayer: ouer coders alsways want new software08:36
Jarrislike db stuff etc.08:37
shadeslayerah08:37
Jarrissbivol: ty, i will have a look, sounds good08:37
shadeslayerthen Landscape should help08:37
Jarrisdoes someone know the cost of it?08:41
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sbivolJarris: I think you'll find out after registration. You have 30 days trial08:52
Jarrissbivol: thanks, i saw that, but didnt wont to register just to see the cost are way to big for our companie08:53
hateballJarris: I think it's like... $50 per machine or something09:07
hateballIt's not cheap. But then again, time spent doing manual stuff is not cheap either.09:07
Jarrishateball: once or each year/month09:08
tsimpsonJarris: you can use http://www.ubuntu.com/business/systems-management/contact-us to ask for pricing information, but http://www.ubuntu.com/business/systems-management/how-to-get-landscape suggests it's part of the "Ubuntu Advantage" support package from Canonical09:08
Jarristsimpson: that means what?09:09
tsimpsonthat means it's part of a package rather than available stand-alone09:09
hateballAnother alternative would be to set up puppet yourself09:10
tsimpsonbut use the contact form to clarify that09:10
Jarrisok thanks all09:10
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ovidiu-florinhow can I pass a command line argument to an alias?12:01
shadeslayerduck it12:02
tsimpsonovidiu-florin: alias foo="bar --baz --buz"12:02
shadeslayeralso, create a function instead of an alias12:03
ovidiu-florini tried both ways12:03
ovidiu-florinlook: function kp() { ps x | grep "$@" | head -n 1 | cut -c -5 ;}12:03
ovidiu-florinthis does not work as expected12:03
shadeslayerhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/941338/shell-script-how-to-pass-command-line-arguments-to-an-unix-alias12:03
shadeslayermaybe pass $1 ?12:03
tsimpsonyou can't use variables like that in aliases, but you can in functions12:04
tsimpsonan alias is just a "key" that's replaced with a value12:05
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: I tried with $1 and when I run 'kp dolphin' I get: 'grep: dolphin: No such file or directory'12:05
shadeslayerthat function works in zsh12:06
tsimpsonworks in bash too12:07
ovidiu-florinwaht is zsh?12:07
shadeslayer!zsh12:07
ovidiu-florinI'm using bash12:07
shadeslayerhmm12:07
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: it's a better shell12:07
shadeslayeratleast I think its' better12:07
tsimpsonI copied your function, replaced "$@" with "$1", and it seems to work here12:07
shadeslayerit also works with $@12:08
ovidiu-florinI have Kubuntu 12.04. Why doesn't it work here?12:08
tsimpsonwhen you say it doesn't work as expected, what do you mean?12:10
ovidiu-florinovidiu@ODWL:~$ kp dolphin12:11
ovidiu-floringrep: dolphin: No such file or directory12:11
ovidiu-florinthis is the function from ~/.bashrc: function kp() { ps x | grep "$1" | head -n 1 | cut -c -5 ;}12:11
tsimpsonwhen you run "command -V kp" does it show the correct commands?12:11
ovidiu-florinno12:12
tsimpsonwhat does it show then?12:12
ovidiu-florinit shows something I tried long ago12:12
ovidiu-florinkp is aliased to `ps x | grep \!^ '12:12
ovidiu-florinclosed and reopened the konsole, it seems to work now12:14
ovidiu-florinthank you tsimpson12:14
shadeslayerheh12:14
shadeslayerdon't forget to source your bashrc everytime12:14
ovidiu-florinI did.... But apparently nothing happened12:15
ovidiu-florinthank you all12:15
ovidiu-florinhere's my final command: function kp() { kill -15 $( ps x | grep "$1" | head -n 1 | cut -c -5) ;}12:15
ovidiu-florincan I run this from krunner?12:17
ovidiu-florinI tried but nothing happenes12:17
tsimpsonyou probably need to logout and back in to update the shell the GUI runs in, and you'll want to actually display the output somehow12:18
tsimpsonprobably via kdialog12:18
tsimpsonif there is a result to display12:18
shadeslayerhmm12:19
shadeslayerhas anyone tried customizing entries in the Right Click > Create New  list?12:19
shadeslayerI don't quite remember how that can be customized12:19
zoiehello, how can i remove the terminal on the bottom of kate? http://i.imgur.com/0vpjX.png is there also a way to remove the scroll updown/leftright bars?12:20
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: you mean add custom entrues in the context menu?12:20
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: yeah12:21
shadeslayermore specifically the "Create new" context menu12:21
ovidiu-florinthet's the context menu of dolphin, I think12:21
tsimpsonshadeslayer: apparently it's /usr/share/templates12:22
shadeslayeroic12:22
ovidiu-florinshadeslayer: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10667#p1316812:22
shadeslayerneato, thx guys12:23
ovidiu-florinzoie: there should be a terminal or konsole button on the left edge of kate12:24
zoieovidiu-florin: my kate is like that: http://i.imgur.com/DoTqv.png i want to remove the left bar with the document browser/kate snippets choice, as well as the terminal on the bottom and the scroll bars12:25
ovidiu-florinzoie: View > view Tools > show side bars12:28
ovidiu-florinI hope I translated that correctly12:28
ovidiu-florinI'm testing ubuntu in Romanian right now12:28
ovidiu-florinkubuntu*12:28
ovidiu-florinzoie: or: ctrl+ alt+ shift + F12:29
zoieovidiu-florin: it was tools view :) but thanks ye that's it12:29
zoietool views*12:29
ovidiu-florinmy default browser is Google chorme but links from certant applications like Quassel open in Firefox, how could I fix that?12:32
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sbivolovidiu-florin: when you're done testing the Romanian translations, please tell me your impressions :)12:47
ovidiu-florinsbivol: are you romanian?12:48
sbivolovidiu-florin: I'm the translator12:48
ovidiu-florinthe translation is mostly very good12:49
ovidiu-florinbut missing some strings. There still is work to be done.12:49
hateballovidiu-florin: there is a kcm module for "standard applications"12:49
ovidiu-florinfor me is very weird because I'm uset to kubuntu in english12:50
hateballovidiu-florin: I've had that go back to firefox at random, when changing something seemingly unrelated elsewhere12:50
ovidiu-florinbut I'm getting used to it12:50
sbivolovidiu-florin: take your time. if there's anything you don't like or an application that you use often and want it translated, drop me a mail (sergiu@ase.md)12:51
ovidiu-florinsbivol: Quassel settings isn't translated12:51
sbivolovidiu-florin: I started using Quassel last week (and IRC too!) so I didn't bother translating it before. Will do it this week12:52
ovidiu-florinthanks hateball. I double checked the default browser in system settings and it was firefox. It's ok now. :D12:53
hateballovidiu-florin: :)12:53
ovidiu-florinsbivol: If I may say, In the name of the Kubuntu comunity, Thank you.12:54
sbivolovidiu-florin: you're welcome :-)12:54
ovidiu-florinsbivol: are your translations going straight to kde? or just kubuntu?12:55
sbivolovidiu-florin: to KDE. then KDE -> Kubuntu12:56
ovidiu-florinsuper :D12:56
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BluesKajHey all13:12
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Questhow to hibernate? i dont see an option in shutdown menu14:29
guest128which scripts or services are responsible for cleaning /run/user/$USER after logging out?14:51
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BarkingFishafternoon guys.  i've got a rather nice keyboard here with some multimedia functions on it which don't work at the moment - i'd like to map them to relevant functions and i don't know how.  can someone help me figure this out please? thanks15:48
guest128first of all you need to make sure that the keys are correctly recognized by the X server. You can use a console application called "xev" for that.15:50
guest128if they generate events in xev you can either configure them through KDE's systemsettings or via another console application called "xbindkeys"15:51
luk-hi, anyone knows how access to old/new transition table in postgresql?15:52
BarkingFishexcellent, thanks guest128 - i know a couple of them work already, like the volume + and -, mute, sleep and poweroff15:53
BarkingFishthe ones which don't are browser, email, and the play/stop/ff/rew controls for a media player15:53
BarkingFishright, guest128, they all generate xevents and have different keycodes, so I can bind those without much messing around, right?15:57
guest128you are lucky that they all create key codes ;)15:59
guest128you might also want to add the keycodes to your ~/.Xmodmap file15:59
BarkingFishso where in systemsettings do I go to bind them all to events?15:59
BarkingFish^please15:59
* BarkingFish is forgetting his manners today15:59
BarkingFishi don't seem to have an Xmodmap file :)16:00
guest128yeah, before you can do anything useful with those keycodes you have to add them to the Xmodmap16:00
guest128okay, simply create one16:00
guest128one entry could be: "keycode 179 = XF86Music"16:00
guest128just adjust the keycode and the event it creates16:01
BarkingFishso i could use keycode 180 = vlc  and it would launch vlc?16:01
guest128no16:01
BarkingFishthis is all new territory for me, please excuse me if I sound like a total newb16:02
guest128sorry, my first description with xev and xbindkeys was a bit misleading16:02
guest128your get the keycode from xev16:02
Desert_guest128: does it work by using the Gestures and Shortcuts in kde System Preferences?16:02
guest128you put that keycode along with a *valid* XF86* event in your Xmodmap16:02
guest128and THEN you can use either systemsettings or xbindkeys to bind the keys to actual applications16:02
BarkingFishok, i assume i can get a list of valid XF86 events somewhere16:03
guest128there is a list of valid XF86* events somewhere under /usr/share/X11 I believe, but I don't remember where :(16:03
BarkingFishok, i'll go take a  look :)16:04
BarkingFishhaha - never mind. xev generated them itself :)16:04
BarkingFishfor the web browser key it generated:16:05
BarkingFishstate 0x0, keycode 180 (keysym 0x1008ff18, XF86HomePage)16:05
guest128yeah, that's good16:05
BarkingFishi still need to add them to the xmodmap though, correct?16:06
guest128under keyboard settings in KDE's system settings you should already be able to assign that key16:06
guest128no, you don't need to add the keys that generate XF86* events to your xmodmap16:06
BarkingFishok, cheers :D16:07
guest128BarkingFish: you can grab some valid XF86 events from this mail: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xlibs-commit/2007-November/003152.html16:09
BarkingFishit looks like i can only bind the keys to kde programs - the media keys are bound to amarok, the www key is bound to konqueror and the email key is bound to kmail - none of which i use :(16:11
BarkingFishmusic is via VLC, web via Firefox and email via Thunderbird16:11
guest128strange, I've never experienced that16:15
guest128you might then want to try xbindkeys16:15
guest128it also need's some text-based configuration and you have to autostart it every time you log on, just as xmodmap16:16
BarkingFishok, will look into it later - i'm gonna have to hop down to work in a minute16:18
BarkingFishgot to go, back in about 2 hours or so16:19
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kubuntuserhello16:48
Peace-hi kubuntuser16:49
kubuntuserhi Peace-16:50
kubuntuseranyone know if it's possible to stream on a shoutcast server from kubuntu ?16:56
kubuntuseri mean with a player or something.16:56
DarthFrogkubuntuser:  I'm not clear on what you're asking.  Are you wanting to receive or broadcast?16:57
kubuntuserDarthFrog: broadcast16:57
DarthFrogAh.  I'm no help to you then. :-)16:57
kubuntuserok :)16:57
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petersaintsWhy was rekonq released on Kubuntu PPA for Raring instead of Quantal? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=rekonq&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=17:48
dniMretsaMpetersaints: it probably requires a never version of KDE than is available for Quantal17:49
petersaintsdniMretsaM: Well KDE 4.9.x is currently available via backports, and that's the latest version.17:50
dniMretsaMit might be built on the 4.10 RCs17:51
petersaintsalso the package says 2.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1. Shouldn't be 13.04 if it was for Raring? Or Raring, since it's a pre-release, it's 12.10.1?17:51
dniMretsaMnon-LTS releases don't get point releases, I don't think, so it's probably just a mislabel17:52
petersaintsexactly dniMretsaM I think it's strange so I was just checking if it wasn't mistake made by the maintainer (Riddell in this case)17:53
dniMretsaMIt could be. it does seem strange17:53
dniMretsaMlet me check something17:54
petersaintsok dniMretsaM tks for your attention17:56
dniMretsaMthe INSTALL file says the minimum kdelibs version is 4.9.017:57
dniMretsaMima try to compile it and see what happens17:58
petersaintsdniMretsaM: I tried installing the deb file and it runs just fine in Quantal (with KDE 4.9.5). I may try to compile it later.18:00
yofelpetersaints: the backport was done to the wrong release, that's all, fixing18:00
petersaintsyofel: yeah I thought it was exactly that. That's why I came here to see if someone else also noticed it or I was just wrong ;)18:01
dniMretsaMthanks, yofel18:01
dniMretsaMand it compiles just fine18:02
petersaintsyeah tks yofel18:02
petersaintsI thought it was strange to see rekonq 2.0 on other distros "backport-like repositories" but it was still not on Kubuntu. So I decided to check out the ppa website :P18:03
yofelthanks for noticing :)18:04
BluesKajso has the quantal backport been edited ?18:06
BluesKajkubuntu-ppa-backports-quantal.list , that is'18:06
yofelthat file is KDE only18:07
BluesKajcorrection , this one :  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu quantal main18:08
BluesKajok18:08
yofelI uploaded it, will take a bit to build https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=rekonq&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=18:08
BluesKajyes of course , kde /kubuntu18:09
petersaintsno problem yofel. Better later than never ;)18:10
yofelnevermind what I said about the .list file, I was thinking about the wrong thing18:10
petersaintsthis new rekonq has a neat feature. Web apps ;)18:17
petersaintsI just use rekonq for that. Firefox is my main browser18:17
Peace-petersaints: i use only chromium18:17
Peace-&& konqueror18:18
petersaintsPeace-: konqueror is nice too, if you enable webkit18:21
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* dniMretsaM is currently updating to KDE 4.9.9518:29
DarthFrogKDE SC 4.9.97 is current beta.18:29
dniMretsaMDarthFrog: yeah. oops18:32
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aveirukПривет)18:53
Gehaktbal_anyone knows why i get the folowing message?19:06
Gehaktbal_joost@desktopLinux:~/projecten/qt/trunk$ svn update19:07
Gehaktbal_Updating '.':19:07
Gehaktbal_WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/joost/.cache/keyring-fHK92b/pkcs11: Bestand of map bestaat niet19:07
Gehaktbal_getting the gnome-keyring thingie more sinds latest kubuntu upgrade19:07
Gehaktbal_the svn update succeeds though it ist a real problem but the warning bugs me19:08
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horacetest20:50
yofelsoee: did you use jockey to install it?21:26
yofelis it even being used? /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell21:26
soeewell i want to test the lates one so i have added edgers ppa21:27
soeean installed nvidia-common21:27
yofelnvidia-common is just the detection stuff, is nvidia-current installed? is your xorg.conf set up to use it?21:28
BluesKajsoee, I have the same indication, but if you run,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia , you'll see the driver in use above NVIDIA binary Xorg driver21:29
soeeBluesKaj, strange than, my panel is not using any effects21:31
yofelsoee: can you please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?21:31
BluesKajdo you have desktop effects enabled in system settings?21:32
soeeBluesKaj, yes they work for other elements21:32
BluesKajwgar panel effects?21:32
BluesKajerr what21:32
soeeyofel, http://pastebin.com/LHjx7UC121:33
yofellooks like it's using the driver fine21:34
yofel313.0921:34
soee310.19 ?21:34
yofel NVIDIA GLX Module  313.09  Tue Dec  4 22:06:18 PST 201221:35
soeeah yest its the lates in edgers ppa21:35
soeebrb logout21:36
soeelol21:38
soeere problem is panel width21:39
soeeif i change it transparency works etc, but there are some width values21:39
soeewhen set panel effects are gone21:39
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Guest58549hello guys, I've just installed kubuntu on a new computer and It won't boot. the live USB works just fine, I'm on it right now but the installation just doesn't boot. What can I try?21:46
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ovidiu-florinI am trying a reinstall21:54
ovidiu-florinrebooting21:57
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