=== LC is now known as Anna === Anna is now known as Guest95734 [02:30] When I try to install ubuntu 12.04. The installation cannot see the SAN storage device as shown http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/volumesnotdetected.jpg [02:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1508279/ [03:50] Why don't we have an standard in plug and play for all devices to conect them to ours PCs? [03:51] Why do we have to wait to some developers in order to have the hability to plug ours devices to our PCs? [03:52] To plug and play our devices in ours PCs must be mandatory..not an option of some company..it must be an universal right [03:55] Apple, Android, Window's Phone, all the Tablets must be able to plug and play in any pc, as a universal and mantatory option.. [03:55] if I am disturbing someone here, please just tell me [03:56] And I will Shut up.. [03:56] I agree vladimir_ [03:57] ok, Rats_> but, you agree to what...to the universal plug and play..or you agree that I must shut up? [03:57] so I dont buy those devices [03:57] Well, actually, I am using Blackberry, because I need it in my work [03:57] so I dont buy those devices [03:57] Some people do simple have to use thouse devices [03:58] PnP [03:58] as a matter of Work.. [03:59] just have to bite the bullet then [03:59] I think..that any device must have, as a default feature, the hability to plug and play in any OS.. [03:59] I do use Linux, now I am writing from Kubuntu [03:59] I agree[3~ [03:59] same [04:00] 12.04 [04:00] ok.. 12.04 its nice, [04:01] I like LTS distros [04:01] Me too..I was in 10.04 until 12.04 were released [04:02] But, I decided to try 12.10 [04:03] I like LTS if I am using KDE... [04:04] there was alot of things I liked better in 10.04 though [04:05] 10.10 improved a lot by adding Unity, and 12.04 removed some of my favorite behavior of the Unity dock. However Kubuntu is with almost the same experience. [04:06] For me KDE is spectacular..but Unity is simplicity.. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [04:07] May be you wont see simplicity in Unity in a 30 minutes session. But if you use Unity in a intensive way..may be you will find its simplicity..its very practical [04:08] I think that Unity is better now than it was in 11.04 [04:08] Hi one question: Every time i boot my kubuntu 12.04 i get some of the desktop efects disable, when i go to Sysyem-settings->desktop effects->advanced->and change composition type (i got 2 xrender and openGl) i get the effecvts back. so what can i do so the effecvts are aveilables on boot? [04:11] i got opengl 1.4 and a Gforce 7300 [04:14] In my case, and this is not a solution, I do not use Graphics Card..May be it can sound wild or strange, but I am not a Gamer nor a Image or Video Editor, so I do not need a Graphics card. And with the integrated graphics of my mother board I do have all de effects with no problem [04:16] In a lot of situations graphics cards work fine in Linux, but ussually a lot of users have problems with them [04:16] vladimir_: mmm my mother don't support the effects, and i game a lot so i need that card :( [04:16] Ok, I understand [04:16] But check if you have lunux-headers-generic installed [04:17] vladimir_: i think is not an issue with the grafic card since when i chnage the render type it enable the effects [04:17] i'm almost suar i have lunux-headers-generic but let me check [04:18] vladimir_: i'm guessing is a xorg.conf problem... [04:18] Check if you have installed linux-headers-generic this pakage is needed in order that any graphics card work fine [04:19] i do version 3.2.0.35.40 [04:19] well, may be it is xorg.conf... but give it a try to my point, and just check in google.. linux-headers-generic + graphics Cards + Linux + Ubuntu [04:20] i'll give it a try thanks vladimir_ [04:21] ok.. U're wellcome === mkv is now known as m4v [06:14] !netsplit [06:14] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === ubuntu is now known as Guest1776 === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [08:03] hello [08:09] kubuntuser: hi [08:09] hi sbivol [08:10] anyone tried the daily of today ? [08:15] not yet, but I plan to test Raring today [08:16] sbivol: i have the daily of yesterday tried on usb.. [08:16] sbivol: i like it :) [08:17] kubuntuser: I'm running 12.10 with KDE 4.9.97 [08:18] sbivol: i have kde 4.9.97 in this build [08:19] kubuntuser: could you please tell me what version of plasma-widget-networkmanagement is in 13.04? [08:20] sbivol: 0.9.0.5-0ubuntu3 [08:21] :-| I was hoping it's 0.9.0.6 already... [08:22] sbivol: i don't know maybe the daily of today have it [08:24] kubuntuser: talked to Riddell last week and he hinted that 0.9.0.6 will be in 13.04 :-) [08:30] #amd [08:32] in our small business kubuntu runs on our workstations, and we spend a lot time doing release upgrades each half year on each client. how do you deal with this? [08:32] are you using trminal-server or is there any reliable sort of upgrade routine? any hints are welcome [08:33] Jarris: a big speed gain would be setting a local APT mirror if you have 10+ workstations [08:34] Jarris: a tool from Canonical, Landscape, is intended to manage lots of workstations. I'm sure it handles upgrades as well [08:35] sbivol: we have an apt-chacher [08:35] Use LTS releases? [08:35] but never heard abouit that tool [08:35] upgrade every < 5 years and you should be good :) [08:36] Jarris: https://landscape.canonical.com/ [08:36] shadeslayer: ouer coders alsways want new software [08:37] like db stuff etc. [08:37] ah [08:37] sbivol: ty, i will have a look, sounds good [08:37] then Landscape should help [08:41] does someone know the cost of it? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [08:52] Jarris: I think you'll find out after registration. You have 30 days trial [08:53] sbivol: thanks, i saw that, but didnt wont to register just to see the cost are way to big for our companie [09:07] Jarris: I think it's like... $50 per machine or something [09:07] It's not cheap. But then again, time spent doing manual stuff is not cheap either. [09:08] hateball: once or each year/month [09:08] Jarris: you can use http://www.ubuntu.com/business/systems-management/contact-us to ask for pricing information, but http://www.ubuntu.com/business/systems-management/how-to-get-landscape suggests it's part of the "Ubuntu Advantage" support package from Canonical [09:09] tsimpson: that means what? [09:09] that means it's part of a package rather than available stand-alone [09:10] Another alternative would be to set up puppet yourself [09:10] but use the contact form to clarify that [09:10] ok thanks all === och is now known as Guest16269 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === this is now known as Guest55855 [12:01] how can I pass a command line argument to an alias? [12:02] duck it [12:02] ovidiu-florin: alias foo="bar --baz --buz" [12:03] also, create a function instead of an alias [12:03] i tried both ways [12:03] look: function kp() { ps x | grep "$@" | head -n 1 | cut -c -5 ;} [12:03] this does not work as expected [12:03] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/941338/shell-script-how-to-pass-command-line-arguments-to-an-unix-alias [12:03] maybe pass $1 ? [12:04] you can't use variables like that in aliases, but you can in functions [12:05] an alias is just a "key" that's replaced with a value [12:05] shadeslayer: I tried with $1 and when I run 'kp dolphin' I get: 'grep: dolphin: No such file or directory' [12:06] that function works in zsh [12:07] works in bash too [12:07] waht is zsh? [12:07] !zsh [12:07] I'm using bash [12:07] hmm [12:07] ovidiu-florin: it's a better shell [12:07] atleast I think its' better [12:07] I copied your function, replaced "$@" with "$1", and it seems to work here [12:08] it also works with $@ [12:08] I have Kubuntu 12.04. Why doesn't it work here? [12:10] when you say it doesn't work as expected, what do you mean? [12:11] ovidiu@ODWL:~$ kp dolphin [12:11] grep: dolphin: No such file or directory [12:11] this is the function from ~/.bashrc: function kp() { ps x | grep "$1" | head -n 1 | cut -c -5 ;} [12:11] when you run "command -V kp" does it show the correct commands? [12:12] no [12:12] what does it show then? [12:12] it shows something I tried long ago [12:12] kp is aliased to `ps x | grep \!^ ' [12:14] closed and reopened the konsole, it seems to work now [12:14] thank you tsimpson [12:14] heh [12:14] don't forget to source your bashrc everytime [12:15] I did.... But apparently nothing happened [12:15] thank you all [12:15] here's my final command: function kp() { kill -15 $( ps x | grep "$1" | head -n 1 | cut -c -5) ;} [12:17] can I run this from krunner? [12:17] I tried but nothing happenes [12:18] you probably need to logout and back in to update the shell the GUI runs in, and you'll want to actually display the output somehow [12:18] probably via kdialog [12:18] if there is a result to display [12:19] hmm [12:19] has anyone tried customizing entries in the Right Click > Create New list? [12:19] I don't quite remember how that can be customized [12:20] hello, how can i remove the terminal on the bottom of kate? http://i.imgur.com/0vpjX.png is there also a way to remove the scroll updown/leftright bars? [12:20] shadeslayer: you mean add custom entrues in the context menu? [12:21] ovidiu-florin: yeah [12:21] more specifically the "Create new" context menu [12:21] thet's the context menu of dolphin, I think [12:22] shadeslayer: apparently it's /usr/share/templates [12:22] oic [12:22] shadeslayer: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10667#p13168 [12:23] neato, thx guys [12:24] zoie: there should be a terminal or konsole button on the left edge of kate [12:25] ovidiu-florin: my kate is like that: http://i.imgur.com/DoTqv.png i want to remove the left bar with the document browser/kate snippets choice, as well as the terminal on the bottom and the scroll bars [12:28] zoie: View > view Tools > show side bars [12:28] I hope I translated that correctly [12:28] I'm testing ubuntu in Romanian right now [12:28] kubuntu* [12:29] zoie: or: ctrl+ alt+ shift + F [12:29] ovidiu-florin: it was tools view :) but thanks ye that's it [12:29] tool views* [12:32] my default browser is Google chorme but links from certant applications like Quassel open in Firefox, how could I fix that? === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [12:47] ovidiu-florin: when you're done testing the Romanian translations, please tell me your impressions :) [12:48] sbivol: are you romanian? [12:48] ovidiu-florin: I'm the translator [12:49] the translation is mostly very good [12:49] but missing some strings. There still is work to be done. [12:49] ovidiu-florin: there is a kcm module for "standard applications" [12:50] for me is very weird because I'm uset to kubuntu in english [12:50] ovidiu-florin: I've had that go back to firefox at random, when changing something seemingly unrelated elsewhere [12:50] but I'm getting used to it [12:51] ovidiu-florin: take your time. if there's anything you don't like or an application that you use often and want it translated, drop me a mail (sergiu@ase.md) [12:51] sbivol: Quassel settings isn't translated [12:52] ovidiu-florin: I started using Quassel last week (and IRC too!) so I didn't bother translating it before. Will do it this week [12:53] thanks hateball. I double checked the default browser in system settings and it was firefox. It's ok now. :D [12:53] ovidiu-florin: :) [12:54] sbivol: If I may say, In the name of the Kubuntu comunity, Thank you. [12:54] ovidiu-florin: you're welcome :-) [12:55] sbivol: are your translations going straight to kde? or just kubuntu? [12:56] ovidiu-florin: to KDE. then KDE -> Kubuntu [12:56] super :D === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest50776 === nick is now known as Guest34003 [13:12] Hey all === casso_ is now known as casso === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [14:29] how to hibernate? i dont see an option in shutdown menu [14:51] which scripts or services are responsible for cleaning /run/user/$USER after logging out? === mynick is now known as bcarvalho === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [15:48] afternoon guys. i've got a rather nice keyboard here with some multimedia functions on it which don't work at the moment - i'd like to map them to relevant functions and i don't know how. can someone help me figure this out please? thanks [15:50] first of all you need to make sure that the keys are correctly recognized by the X server. You can use a console application called "xev" for that. [15:51] if they generate events in xev you can either configure them through KDE's systemsettings or via another console application called "xbindkeys" [15:52] hi, anyone knows how access to old/new transition table in postgresql? [15:53] excellent, thanks guest128 - i know a couple of them work already, like the volume + and -, mute, sleep and poweroff [15:53] the ones which don't are browser, email, and the play/stop/ff/rew controls for a media player [15:57] right, guest128, they all generate xevents and have different keycodes, so I can bind those without much messing around, right? [15:59] you are lucky that they all create key codes ;) [15:59] you might also want to add the keycodes to your ~/.Xmodmap file [15:59] so where in systemsettings do I go to bind them all to events? [15:59] ^please [15:59] * BarkingFish is forgetting his manners today [16:00] i don't seem to have an Xmodmap file :) [16:00] yeah, before you can do anything useful with those keycodes you have to add them to the Xmodmap [16:00] okay, simply create one [16:00] one entry could be: "keycode 179 = XF86Music" [16:01] just adjust the keycode and the event it creates [16:01] so i could use keycode 180 = vlc and it would launch vlc? [16:01] no [16:02] this is all new territory for me, please excuse me if I sound like a total newb [16:02] sorry, my first description with xev and xbindkeys was a bit misleading [16:02] your get the keycode from xev [16:02] guest128: does it work by using the Gestures and Shortcuts in kde System Preferences? [16:02] you put that keycode along with a *valid* XF86* event in your Xmodmap [16:02] and THEN you can use either systemsettings or xbindkeys to bind the keys to actual applications [16:03] ok, i assume i can get a list of valid XF86 events somewhere [16:03] there is a list of valid XF86* events somewhere under /usr/share/X11 I believe, but I don't remember where :( [16:04] ok, i'll go take a look :) [16:04] haha - never mind. xev generated them itself :) [16:05] for the web browser key it generated: [16:05] state 0x0, keycode 180 (keysym 0x1008ff18, XF86HomePage) [16:05] yeah, that's good [16:06] i still need to add them to the xmodmap though, correct? [16:06] under keyboard settings in KDE's system settings you should already be able to assign that key [16:06] no, you don't need to add the keys that generate XF86* events to your xmodmap [16:07] ok, cheers :D [16:09] BarkingFish: you can grab some valid XF86 events from this mail: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xlibs-commit/2007-November/003152.html [16:11] it looks like i can only bind the keys to kde programs - the media keys are bound to amarok, the www key is bound to konqueror and the email key is bound to kmail - none of which i use :( [16:11] music is via VLC, web via Firefox and email via Thunderbird [16:15] strange, I've never experienced that [16:15] you might then want to try xbindkeys [16:16] it also need's some text-based configuration and you have to autostart it every time you log on, just as xmodmap [16:18] ok, will look into it later - i'm gonna have to hop down to work in a minute [16:19] got to go, back in about 2 hours or so === puesto2 is now known as puesto2_ === paolo is now known as faLUCE === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [16:48] hello [16:49] hi kubuntuser [16:50] hi Peace- [16:56] anyone know if it's possible to stream on a shoutcast server from kubuntu ? [16:56] i mean with a player or something. [16:57] kubuntuser: I'm not clear on what you're asking. Are you wanting to receive or broadcast? [16:57] DarthFrog: broadcast [16:57] Ah. I'm no help to you then. :-) [16:57] ok :) === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:48] Why was rekonq released on Kubuntu PPA for Raring instead of Quantal? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=rekonq&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [17:49] petersaints: it probably requires a never version of KDE than is available for Quantal [17:50] dniMretsaM: Well KDE 4.9.x is currently available via backports, and that's the latest version. [17:51] it might be built on the 4.10 RCs [17:51] also the package says 2.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1. Shouldn't be 13.04 if it was for Raring? Or Raring, since it's a pre-release, it's 12.10.1? [17:52] non-LTS releases don't get point releases, I don't think, so it's probably just a mislabel [17:53] exactly dniMretsaM I think it's strange so I was just checking if it wasn't mistake made by the maintainer (Riddell in this case) [17:53] It could be. it does seem strange [17:54] let me check something [17:56] ok dniMretsaM tks for your attention [17:57] the INSTALL file says the minimum kdelibs version is 4.9.0 [17:58] ima try to compile it and see what happens [18:00] dniMretsaM: I tried installing the deb file and it runs just fine in Quantal (with KDE 4.9.5). I may try to compile it later. [18:00] petersaints: the backport was done to the wrong release, that's all, fixing [18:01] yofel: yeah I thought it was exactly that. That's why I came here to see if someone else also noticed it or I was just wrong ;) [18:01] thanks, yofel [18:02] and it compiles just fine [18:02] yeah tks yofel [18:03] I thought it was strange to see rekonq 2.0 on other distros "backport-like repositories" but it was still not on Kubuntu. So I decided to check out the ppa website :P [18:04] thanks for noticing :) [18:06] so has the quantal backport been edited ? [18:06] kubuntu-ppa-backports-quantal.list , that is' [18:07] that file is KDE only [18:08] correction , this one : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu quantal main [18:08] ok [18:08] I uploaded it, will take a bit to build https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=rekonq&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [18:09] yes of course , kde /kubuntu [18:10] no problem yofel. Better later than never ;) [18:10] nevermind what I said about the .list file, I was thinking about the wrong thing [18:17] this new rekonq has a neat feature. Web apps ;) [18:17] I just use rekonq for that. Firefox is my main browser [18:17] petersaints: i use only chromium [18:18] && konqueror [18:21] Peace-: konqueror is nice too, if you enable webkit === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [18:29] * dniMretsaM is currently updating to KDE 4.9.95 [18:29] KDE SC 4.9.97 is current beta. [18:32] DarthFrog: yeah. oops [18:53] пр [18:53] Привет) [19:06] anyone knows why i get the folowing message? [19:07] joost@desktopLinux:~/projecten/qt/trunk$ svn update [19:07] Updating '.': [19:07] WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/joost/.cache/keyring-fHK92b/pkcs11: Bestand of map bestaat niet [19:07] getting the gnome-keyring thingie more sinds latest kubuntu upgrade [19:08] the svn update succeeds though it ist a real problem but the warning bugs me === april is now known as Guest1296 === dniMretsaM is now known as dniMretsaM_away === elien is now known as sk_ryan007 [20:50] test [21:26] soee: did you use jockey to install it? [21:26] is it even being used? /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell [21:27] well i want to test the lates one so i have added edgers ppa [21:27] an installed nvidia-common [21:28] nvidia-common is just the detection stuff, is nvidia-current installed? is your xorg.conf set up to use it? [21:29] soee, I have the same indication, but if you run, dpkg -l | grep nvidia , you'll see the driver in use above NVIDIA binary Xorg driver [21:31] BluesKaj, strange than, my panel is not using any effects [21:31] soee: can you please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [21:32] do you have desktop effects enabled in system settings? [21:32] BluesKaj, yes they work for other elements [21:32] wgar panel effects? [21:32] err what [21:33] yofel, http://pastebin.com/LHjx7UC1 [21:34] looks like it's using the driver fine [21:34] 313.09 [21:34] 310.19 ? [21:35] NVIDIA GLX Module 313.09 Tue Dec 4 22:06:18 PST 2012 [21:35] ah yest its the lates in edgers ppa [21:36] brb logout [21:38] lol [21:39] re problem is panel width [21:39] if i change it transparency works etc, but there are some width values [21:39] when set panel effects are gone === kubuntu is now known as Guest58549 [21:46] hello guys, I've just installed kubuntu on a new computer and It won't boot. the live USB works just fine, I'm on it right now but the installation just doesn't boot. What can I try? === Guest58549 is now known as ovidiu-florin [21:54] I am trying a reinstall [21:57] rebooting === owner is now known as Guest11031 === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM