[16:01] <stokachu> o/
[16:01] <jodh> \o
[16:02] <cjwatson> hi
[16:02] <cjwatson> #startmeeting
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[16:03] <cjwatson> #topic lightning round
[16:03] <cjwatson> $ echo $(shuf -e barry bdmurray cjwatson ev doko ogra_ jodh stgraber xnox)
[16:03] <cjwatson> stgraber jodh bdmurray cjwatson ev doko ogra_ xnox barry
[16:03] <stokachu> aww
[16:04] <cjwatson> oh DAMNIT
[16:04] <cjwatson> sorry, I always go down the directory from Steve
[16:04] <cjwatson> and as a result I always miss you :-(
[16:04] <cjwatson> stokachu: go first, then :-)
[16:04] <stokachu> lol its cool
[16:04] <stokachu> ok
[16:04] <stokachu> - sick last week been catching up on internal bugs
[16:04] <stokachu> - finished packaging firefox esr for certain interested parties
[16:04] <stokachu> - got accepted into UCD, next stop Core-dev
[16:04] <stokachu> - reviewing merge/sync documentation both traditional way and UDD
[16:04] <stokachu> - working on sosreport plugins for Debian/Ubuntu https://github.com/sosreport/sosreport
[16:04] <stokachu> done
[16:07] <cjwatson> perhaps stgraber isn't around
[16:07] <cjwatson> jodh: ?
[16:07] <stgraber> I'm, sorry
[16:07] <stgraber>  - Upstart
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Tested stateful re-exec of the user session daemon
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Initial implementation of the UPSTART_SESSION environment variable to access the session daemon when DBus isn't around
[16:07] <cjwatson> aha
[16:07] <stgraber>  - Container
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Code reviews.
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Quite a lot of work on bionic support, sent first version of the patchset, then did a lot of changes and got the v2 merged an hour ago.
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Started porting libcap to bionic so we can have a bionic build of LXC drop the usual capabilities and stop causing the host to reboot on shutdown/reboot of the container.
[16:07] <stgraber>  - Other
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Some follow-up on a weird biosdevname issue.
[16:07] <stgraber>  - Networking
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Discussed ifupdown a bit with Andrew. Some changes in the HG branch may cause some problems on Ubuntu, will have to keep watching.
[16:07] <stgraber>  - TODO
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Get my upstart branch in shape for review.
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Finish porting libcap to bionic.
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Go through the isc-dhcp and resolvconf bugs.
[16:07] <stgraber>   - Try to apply redhat's fiberchannel patchset to our isc-dhcp.
[16:07] <stgraber> (DONE)
[16:08] <jodh> * Upstart:
[16:08] <jodh>   - Fixed tty-serial.conf (bug 702574), soon to be added to raring branch.
[16:08] <jodh>   - Fixed bug 881885 and raised MP.
[16:08] <jodh>   - Investigating bug 1096531.
[16:08] <jodh>   - Finished init and initctl code to manipulate job environments (see
[16:08] <jodh> * TODO:
[16:08] <jodh>   - write tests for job environment manipulation APIs.
[16:08] <jodh> ⏧
[16:08] <bdmurray> tested fix for bug 1072828
[16:08] <bdmurray> tested bug 915626 regarding usb-creator crashes
[16:08] <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug 1071388
[16:08] <bdmurray> SRU verification of apport in precise
[16:09] <bdmurray> modified pending-sru report to show date of last comment as it is easier to remember dates than comments
[16:09] <bdmurray> irc discussion with evan and mpt regarding rank of errors
[16:09] <bdmurray> worked on source package rank sorting issue in errors
[16:09] <bdmurray> worked on subscribed packages view for errors in the cloud
[16:09] <jodh> oops - that 'see' in my report should refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions#Core
[16:09] <bdmurray> wrote pycassa code to get oops count on a weekly basis for Ubuntu 12.10
[16:09] <bdmurray> subscribed foundations-bugs to libsemanage and ustr packages
[16:10] <bdmurray> ⁂ done
[16:10] <cjwatson> GRUB: Pushed some patches to Debian; converted to GCC 4.7; merged back into Ubuntu.
[16:10] <cjwatson> 12.04.2:
[16:10] <cjwatson>  - Discussion of work needed for xorg enablement stack.  Need to get moving on this in the coming week.
[16:10] <cjwatson>  - Uploaded djview4 and grub2 SRUs.
[16:10] <cjwatson>  - Fixed sawfish bug 1083260 for precise/quantal/raring at a friend's request.
[16:10] <cjwatson>  - Fixed Chinese edition image build failures.
[16:10] <cjwatson> Cross-building: Fixed patch, xz-utils, kmod, and hopefully xterm.
[16:10] <cjwatson> Lots of merges and random build/upgrade fixes.
[16:10] <cjwatson> Caught up on archive removals a bit.
[16:10] <cjwatson> Sorted out most of the tail-end of the opencv transition by way of a messy gluegen2/armhf build fix.  Need to do something similar to libjogl2-java.
[16:10] <cjwatson> Working on backporting support for :any and :native build-dependencies to the Debian buildds, so that we stop having to carry such things as Ubuntu deltas.
[16:10] <cjwatson> ..
[16:10] <ogra_> heh, sawfish still has users ?
[16:11] <doko> cjwatson, did kmod need anything besides dropping b-d's?
[16:11] <cjwatson> doko: that was all
[16:11]  * xnox doesn't even know what sawfish is =) i think i should be glad.
[16:11] <cjwatson> xnox: a WM
[16:11] <ev> - Very short week. Holiday until Friday, then off again on Monday.
[16:11] <ev> - Continuing to get the charms ready for prodstack, battling Canonistack every step of the way.
[16:11] <ev>   - Waiting to hear back if we still have an EC2 credit as we desperately need to expand the number of retracers (we're getting a lot more core files) and we can't do that until we have everything on prodstack.
[16:11] <ev> (done)
[16:11] <cjwatson> ogra_: evidence suggests at least two :-)
[16:11] <ogra_> ev ?!?!
[16:11] <ev> hm?
[16:12] <ogra_> thats a record in shortness
[16:12] <cjwatson> doko: I suspect perl:native would have done too once it's supported, but it wasn't necessary
[16:12] <ev> heh
[16:12] <doko> - getting the buildd chroot nearly cross-built
[16:12] <doko> - updating cross toolchain packages, trying to eliminate more ad hoc solutions
[16:13] <doko> - some test rebuild fixes and give-backs
[16:13] <doko> ..
[16:13] <ogra_> done:
[16:13] <ogra_>  * read the 3800 mail backlog from vacation
[16:13] <ogra_>  * fixed ureadahead on the nexus7
[16:13] <ogra_>  * worked on initrd-less booting on the nexus7
[16:13] <ogra_>  * slightly stuck on trying to get plymouth to work without having console-setup run from the initrd
[16:13] <ogra_> todo:
[16:13] <ogra_>  * discuss livefs builder situation with infinity (we need to start building nx7 images for flavours, that will need some cut down in buildtime or more builders)
[16:13] <ogra_>  * move nx7 images to xz compression (and probably move compressing from livefs builder to nusakan)
[16:13] <ogra_>  * fix plymouth vs console-setup racing somehow
[16:13] <ogra_>  * package tegra3 gstreamer codecs for raring
[16:13] <ogra_> ..
[16:14] <xnox> * Fixed bug #1091788 , bug #1093957
[16:14] <xnox> * Fixed warnings in cunit, for MIR bug #1077484
[16:14] <xnox> * Fixed rebuild ftbfs: multiarch py2 - libsemanage, python-qt4;
[16:14] <xnox>   pep8 - apt-btrfs-snapshot;
[16:14] <xnox> * Cross-building buildd chroot: dbus (added m-a header), libnih (needs
[16:14] <xnox>   :native b-d support, but otherwise fixed), libsemanage (add
[16:14] <xnox>   DEB_STAGE)
[16:14] <xnox> * Upstart overrides from any dir merged, thanks james for review
[16:14] <xnox> ..
[16:14] <barry> looked into claws-m-p-e build failures when syncing from debian: libgdata/libcurl4-{gnutls,nss}-dev mess kills us again.  bug 1095407.  bug 1077087.  bug 1077089. upstream oauthlib issue 86.  py3 porting: lazr.smtptest, lazr.delegates, lazr.config (inprogress).  evaluating pillow (friendly PIL port for py3).  helped with a few lp:friends issues. started looking at mvo's sqlite fts branches for software-center (hopefully to drop xapian
[16:14] <barry> dependency).  dmb meeting. done.
[16:16] <xnox> barry: what's speed comparison of sqlite vs xapian for software-center use case? i hope that incremental indexing is faster.
[16:16] <barry> xnox: i don't know that yet ;)
[16:16] <barry> i'd be happy if it was in the same ballpark
[16:17] <xnox> ah. I takes quite a chunk of installation time to generate software-center index.... /me even considered having initial index in the package *gasp*
[16:18] <doko> barry: I already have pillow packaging
[16:19] <barry> doko: yeah, i saw that comment.  please provide url.  (my packaging isn't meant to be definitive, just enough to evaluate upstream)
[16:20] <barry> doko: i build from a github pull request which is fixing py3 issues
[16:24] <bdmurray> cjwatson: ?
[16:25] <cjwatson> oh, sorry
[16:25] <cjwatson> distracted :)
[16:25] <cjwatson> #topic bugs
[16:25] <cjwatson> anything we should be looking at this week that we aren't already?
[16:26] <bdmurray> bug 1078810 regarding quantal had a recent comment that allowed me to recreate the bug (most of the time)
[16:26] <xnox> interesting!
[16:26] <bdmurray> er, whoops
[16:26] <bdmurray> yes, that's a bug we should look but my comment was about another bug
[16:26] <cjwatson> oh dear, missing pygi porting
[16:28] <barry> dang
[16:28]  * xnox will look into it.
[16:28] <xnox> helper script is small
[16:29] <bdmurray> okay, thanks xnox
[16:29] <bdmurray> my comment regarding being able to recreate a usb-creator bug on quantal was about bug 915626
[16:29] <xnox> still good =)
[16:31] <bdmurray> I'd test it raring but…
[16:31] <cjwatson> But it's completely screwed due to the prior bug? :)
[16:32] <bdmurray> right
[16:33] <xnox> =)))))))
[16:33] <cjwatson> xnox: can you take 915626 as well, then?
[16:33] <xnox> i guess i win both =)
[16:33] <bdmurray> It seems like we should look at reviewing the branch associated with bug 1095692 for the 12.04 point release
[16:34] <cjwatson> bdmurray: Yep - I'll do that today
[16:34] <xnox> that's not merged into raring yet ?!
[16:35] <cjwatson> bdmurray: assigned to me, prodded bug metadata
[16:35] <bdmurray> okay, thanks
[16:36]  * xnox has .changes ready to make ubiquity upload into raring. Can I still do it (to test if partman fixes resolve hangs) or cjwatson you'll do an upload today?
[16:36] <bdmurray> Then I'm curious how worthwhile is it to SRU bug 1078544.
[16:37] <cjwatson> xnox: I'll review/commit and you can upload whenever's convenient
[16:37] <cjwatson> xnox: no need to block on me, I can put it in the next version along if I need to
[16:37] <xnox> ack.
[16:38] <cjwatson> I suspect that infinity would still like to sort out that aptdaemon bug, based on his comments about kernel autoremoval; it might be worth asking him
[16:38] <cjwatson> oh, which reminds me, infinity sent apologies, but:
[16:38] <cjwatson> 12:39 <infinity> cjwatson: The only real point of interest from me is glibc_2.17 that should be landing when the test rebuild is done (about half done rebasing all the patches for experimental, then the Ubuntu
[16:38] <cjwatson>                  merge will be trivial on top of that)
[16:39] <cjwatson> bdmurray: anything else?
[16:40] <bdmurray> xnox: did you have any luck with the kernel and testing bug 1023645?
[16:41] <xnox> bdmurray: a few people i poked do not have ndiswrapper hardware.
[16:41] <xnox> anybody here has hw that can take ndiswrapped windows drivers?
[16:41] <xnox> (people i know tend to choose hardware for ubuntu though)
[16:43] <bdmurray> well if nobody has hardware to test then that's it from me
[16:43] <cjwatson> thanks
[16:43] <cjwatson> #topic AOB
[16:44] <cjwatson> anyone?
[16:45] <xnox> loads of precise pending srus and bugs in the report.
[16:45] <cjwatson> which report?
[16:45] <xnox> maybe we should go through them and see what should be targetted at 12.04.2
[16:45] <xnox> rls-tracking & pending-sru
[16:46] <cjwatson> ok, quite possibly, not here though
[16:46] <xnox> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/precise-updates-bug-tasks.html
[16:46] <cjwatson> jodh: is the upstart/armhf build failure on precise racy, i.e. might it go away if we retry?
[16:46] <xnox> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/precise-updates-bug-tasks.html
[16:47] <cjwatson> jodh: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/126984012/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.upstart_1.5-0ubuntu7.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:48] <jodh> cjwatson: dang - looks like that is the ol' "missing \n race again, so yeah :)
[16:49] <cjwatson> jo	OK, I've mashed retry
[16:49] <cjwatson> gah, lag
[16:50] <cjwatson> OK, nearly out of time and it sounds like that's all
[16:50] <cjwatson> Thanks everyone
[16:50] <cjwatson> #endmeeting
[16:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Jan  9 16:50:30 2013 UTC.
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[16:50] <xnox> cheers
[16:53] <stgraber> thanks!
[20:38] <solarcloud_3scrn> Is there supposed to be a Lubuntu meeting on right now ??