| mlankhorst | morning | 07:35 |
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| tjaalton | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/127916308/HookError_source_xorg.txt | 07:52 |
| tjaalton | wth? | 07:52 |
| mlankhorst | o.0 | 08:06 |
| tjaalton | guess we could switch to sna once 3.8 hits raring | 08:06 |
| tjaalton | and I'm preparing mesa master now | 08:06 |
| mlankhorst | sure, makes the intel devs happy | 08:06 |
| tjaalton | you think? | 08:06 |
| mlankhorst | I'm not sure it makes anyone else happy though! | 08:07 |
| tjaalton | asked ickle about it a month ago or so, he thought it was maybe 80% ready back then. they've fixed some issues since then, might be 9/10 by now :) | 08:07 |
| tjaalton | er, 90% | 08:08 |
| mlankhorst | going to do 1 more testbuild of pixman, then push the thing | 08:09 |
| tjaalton | always fun merging new mesa upstream.. | 08:15 |
| mlankhorst | :> | 08:20 |
| mlankhorst | it's becoming more and more boring though | 08:20 |
| mlankhorst | but hey tf2 fps increase, count me in | 08:20 |
| mlankhorst | I'm hipster and knew about that before phoronix reported it | 08:21 |
| tjaalton | a ton of conflicts that need to be manually resolved | 08:21 |
| tjaalton | easy though, always take what's the new | 08:21 |
| mlankhorst | when doing syncs of pre-release git, new maintainer entry should be Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> right? | 08:24 |
| tjaalton | i'd prefer ubuntu-x | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | dpkg-source is happy as long as the address has *ubuntu.com on it | 08:25 |
| mlankhorst | i thought pre-release like that was special when there were no ubuntu specific changes | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | it's not a big deal | 08:28 |
| mlankhorst | ok incoming pixman then | 08:28 |
| tjaalton | meh, robert hasn't kept up with wayland updates.. | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | or my mirror.. wtf again | 08:55 |
| tjaalton | right, mirror cleanup & sbuild-update fail, duh :) | 09:00 |
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| tjaalton | builds, with an additional uncommitted build fix.. | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | apw: so, were you going to upload 3.8 to raring soon? | 09:59 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, hi, i there a nvidia 313.09 patch for 3.8 available? (i guess, i havent looked hard enough yet) | 10:05 |
| tjaalton | ricotz: tseliot is on them | 10:05 |
| ricotz | great, thanks | 10:05 |
| tseliot | :) | 10:05 |
| mlankhorst | can someone sponsor pixman? it doesn't appear to be part of xorg package set | 10:57 |
| bdrung | hi, i like to ask about a possible MIR of libxkbcommon. we will need libxkbcommon in main if we enable the wayland backend in gtk (bug #954352) | 11:46 |
| ubottu | bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Raring) "Enable wayland backend" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/954352 | 11:46 |
| tjaalton | bdrung: go for it | 11:47 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: the description says that this library is experimental | 11:47 |
| tjaalton | ah | 11:47 |
| bdrung | the current version of this package is a git snapshot | 11:48 |
| bdrung | there is a 0.2.0 of it | 11:48 |
| tjaalton | ok, I'll update it | 11:48 |
| bdrung | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libxkbcommon/log/ | 11:49 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: the warning in the description came from bryce. bryce, did you add the warning, because the package was a git snapshot? | 11:54 |
| tjaalton | it was at some point | 11:54 |
| tjaalton | things have changed since | 11:55 |
| tjaalton | bryce: the versions-current page doesn't seem to track libxkbcommon upstream? | 11:55 |
| tjaalton | mesa snapshot builds properly now, doing libxkbcommon & weston next | 12:14 |
| mlankhorst | ok first attempt at mesa done | 12:33 |
| tjaalton | what's the diff like? | 12:36 |
| tjaalton | bdrung: libxkbcommon 0.2.0 uploaded | 12:40 |
| mlankhorst | few lines | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | show it :) | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | oh, it's in git already | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | not quite :) | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | it was the security update | 12:41 |
| mlankhorst | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1512694/ | 12:42 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: thanks | 12:42 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: so basically, mesa-common-dev should be backwards compatible? | 12:46 |
| mlankhorst | pretty much | 12:46 |
| tjaalton | unless a package depends on glu_*.h :) | 12:48 |
| tjaalton | which got removed in 9.0 | 12:48 |
| tjaalton | but it shouldn't matter | 12:49 |
| ricotz | bdrung, hi, is it possible to enable broadway too which doesnt need further depends and won't interfere either? | 12:50 |
| bdrung | ricotz: what is broadway? | 12:51 |
| ricotz | bdrung, the html5 backend of gtk | 12:51 |
| bdrung | how much will the package size increase? | 12:52 |
| ricotz | hmm, quite a question | 12:52 |
| bdrung | ricotz: broadway will not need any new build dependencies? | 12:52 |
| ricotz | no | 12:52 |
| bdrung | ricotz: do we have an open bug report for it? | 12:52 |
| ricotz | no | 12:52 |
| ricotz | i was asked to do so in my ppa, and did for some time now | 12:53 |
| bdrung | ricotz: and there were no regression? | 12:53 |
| ricotz | it is a separate backend like wayland | 12:53 |
| bdrung | ricotz: can you evaluate the size change? | 12:53 |
| ricotz | i'll try | 12:54 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: that should be pulled to libglu.*-dev then | 12:55 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: it's not in precise | 12:55 |
| bdrung | weston needs to be updated in raring - see bug #1097685 | 13:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1097685 in weston (Ubuntu) "libwayland and weston package versions in raring are incompatible" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1097685 | 13:00 |
| tjaalton | updating as we speak | 13:00 |
| jcristau | bdrung: of course libxkbcommon is experimental. so's wayland... | 13:03 |
| tjaalton | just not api-wise, not anymore | 13:03 |
| bdrung | jcristau: i was referring to the API (not how often the API will be extended) | 13:05 |
| mlankhorst | erm afaict libglu1-mesa-dev from precise includes GL/glu.h and GL/glu_mangle.h, so installing it will work even on renamed stack | 13:07 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: of course, dunno what I was looking at.. | 13:09 |
| tjaalton | sigh, why on earth doesn't the ubuntu cairo package build the egl backend? | 13:16 |
| ricotz | bdrung, the stipped gdk lib would grow by ca. 90kb | 13:17 |
| bdrung | ricotz: and in percentage? | 13:17 |
| ricotz | 20 | 13:18 |
| ricotz | 550 to 640 | 13:18 |
| bdrung | 90 kb is not that big if there are user wanting that backend | 13:19 |
| bdrung | ricotz: feel free to extend the debdiff and state the dependency/size impact of the change in the bug report | 13:19 |
| ricotz | it is getting in shape in 3.7.x, while staying on 3.6 it might be not the great to use | 13:20 |
| tjaalton | looks like an ancient cairo merge left the egl backend disabled, nice | 13:21 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, it is intended to be disabled due nvidia blob memory problem | 13:22 |
| tjaalton | ricotz: ah, meh | 13:22 |
| tjaalton | ricotz: that was on oneiric? | 13:23 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, still valid afaik :( | 13:24 |
| tjaalton | ok tehn | 13:24 |
| tjaalton | then | 13:24 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, feel free to check | 13:25 |
| tjaalton | nah | 13:25 |
| ricotz | the nvidia kernel module will massivly increase in size | 13:25 |
| tjaalton | yeah i remember now | 13:25 |
| bdrung | ricotz: then a bug report with the current findings would be nice as reminder once we get >= 3.7.x into the archive | 13:27 |
| ricotz | it isnt likely it will land in raring | 13:27 |
| ricotz | 3.7.x i mean | 13:28 |
| bdrung | therefore the bug report | 13:28 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: have you seen http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691699 ? | 13:28 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 691699 in src:libxkbcommon "libxkbcommon: [PATCH] upgrade to 0.2.0" [Wishlist,Open] | 13:28 |
| tjaalton | bdrung: no | 13:29 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: it would be nice to review that and reduce the lintian output | 13:29 |
| bdrung | http://paste.debian.net/223110/ | 13:29 |
| mlankhorst | ah great, pixman 1-0 and input update is enough for new xserver :) | 13:29 |
| tjaalton | bdrung: huh, I only got one warning | 13:30 |
| tjaalton | about out-of-date-standards-version | 13:30 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: he runs lintian with the pedantic option | 13:31 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: are you using lintian 2.5.11ubuntu1? | 13:31 |
| jcristau | which outputs lots of irrelevant stuff | 13:31 |
| tjaalton | bdrung: whatever is in raring | 13:32 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: ah | 13:32 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: i use --pedantic -IE | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | duh, I wasn't aware it didn't use debhelper 9 | 13:35 |
| ricotz | bdrung, ah there is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/933641 | 13:36 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 933641 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Please backport/enable HTML5 (broadway) gdk backend for gtk+3.0" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 13:36 |
| tjaalton | who uses that backend anyway? | 13:36 |
| tjaalton | the latest I heard was that it's still very much WIP | 13:36 |
| ricotz | some kind of webapps | 13:36 |
| ricotz | yeah, that is why i said 3.8 will be more appropriate to have it in a usable stat | 13:37 |
| ricotz | e | 13:37 |
| bdrung | ricotz: can you comment that bug report? | 13:37 |
| ricotz | done | 13:40 |
| ricotz | bdrung, is it possible to remove the "Precise Backports" reference completely? | 13:43 |
| ricotz | from the mentioned bug | 13:44 |
| bdrung | ricotz: it doesn't seem to be possible | 13:44 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: will you apply the libxkbcommon patches? | 13:48 |
| tjaalton | bdrung: ones that matter | 13:48 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: the patches 004 - 008 makes sense to me | 13:49 |
| bdrung | the patches 002 and 003 were already covered by you | 13:49 |
| tjaalton | not 5 & 6 | 13:49 |
| ricotz | mlankhorst, hi, btw, what is holding back wine getting into raring? | 13:51 |
| mlankhorst | no idea? | 13:53 |
| bdrung | tjaalton: why not? what speaks against using 3.0 (quilt)? why is the tarball generation still needed? | 13:56 |
| ricotz | mlankhorst, hmm, so scott is not comfortable with 1.5 yet? | 13:56 |
| mlankhorst | I don't upload wine to distro, just maintaining ubuntu-wine ppa :-) | 13:56 |
| ricotz | i know, i am just hoping you would know why it isnt there yet ;) | 13:57 |
| mlankhorst | so you use the ubuntu-wine ppa, of course! | 13:57 |
| ricotz | i do, yes | 13:58 |
| mlankhorst | been maintaining audio there mostly, the ubuntu official release is probably lacking all these changes | 13:58 |
| ricotz | ok, keep that up! :) | 14:00 |
| mlankhorst | the bug about supporting pulseaudio is >5 years old at this point. :P | 14:01 |
| mlankhorst | ok guess I'll do a 'proper' rework of all patches to xserver 1.14 now, botched up when testing airlied's stuff | 14:10 |
| tjaalton | use ubuntu+1, and reset --hard it to the current branch | 14:11 |
| mlankhorst | was thinking of a debian-experimental+1 first | 14:12 |
| tjaalton | or just bump d-e there | 14:12 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: opinions? | 14:12 |
| jcristau | about? | 14:13 |
| tjaalton | whether to bump xorg-server debian-experimental branch to git master | 14:13 |
| jcristau | shouldn't be an issue, i don't think we need to go through 1.13 | 14:17 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 14:17 |
| mlankhorst | ah k, x1.14 it is then | 14:17 |
| jcristau | branch history will be a mess, but oh well :( | 14:17 |
| tjaalton | because of xi2.3? | 14:18 |
| mlankhorst | it's git, it will resolve the conflicts ;-) | 14:18 |
| * ogra_ wonders why nobody had the idea to send git to syria tzhen | 14:19 | |
| ogra_ | :P | 14:20 |
| mlankhorst | they don't use version control there | 14:20 |
| jcristau | mlankhorst: that's not what i'm worried about | 14:20 |
| jcristau | just having lots of merges of stuff that was never used/uploaded | 14:21 |
| tjaalton | on the d-e branch? | 14:23 |
| mlankhorst | it was used, just not on debian :) | 14:23 |
| mlankhorst | wow, that was easy, just needs inputproto / pixman version bump | 14:45 |
| mlankhorst | and removal of input barrier patch | 14:45 |
| mlankhorst | bit suspicious that all other patches just apply, though | 14:51 |
| tjaalton | heh | 14:53 |
| tjaalton | not much has changed though | 14:53 |
| tjaalton | feature wise anyway | 14:53 |
| mlankhorst | true | 14:54 |
| mlankhorst | and I guess the 1.13 rc's grabbed most patches we cared about anyway | 14:55 |
| mlankhorst | sdksyms.o:(.data.rel+0x3578): undefined reference to `PanoramiXSaveXFixesVector' | 15:40 |
| mlankhorst | weee | 15:40 |
| jcristau | ♥ sdksyms | 15:45 |
| mlankhorst | well fine, wonder if a hack is enough, if it's a configure option not like that stuff should be exported anyway.. | 15:49 |
| bryce | bdrung, yeah the warning can be removed from the description. Back when I packaged it, it was pre-release experimental, but not anymore. | 18:27 |
| tjaalton | bryce: yep, done | 18:27 |
| tjaalton | 0.2.0 is in raring now | 18:27 |
| bdrung | bryce: thanks | 18:27 |
| tjaalton | and pushed a further description update to debian-unstable branch | 18:28 |
| bryce | tjaalton, yeah there's several upstreams it doesn't track. It's on my todo list. | 18:29 |
| tjaalton | cool | 18:29 |
| tjaalton | weston update nearly there | 18:30 |
| mlankhorst | bryce: fwiw x1.14 compiles, don't know about pointer barriers yet, seems to have been upstreamed? | 19:08 |
| bryce | mlankhorst, great | 19:24 |
| bryce | mlankhorst, yeah I saw peter put in some of those changes for 1.14. Enough for us to drop our patch? | 19:25 |
| mlankhorst | well it fails to apply now | 19:25 |
| bryce | maybe raof can illuminate us | 19:27 |
| * bryce throws in the towel on #1056039. WFM. | 19:36 | |
| tjaalton | the upstreamed version of p-b is functionally equivalent to the old one, aiui | 19:44 |
| bryce | tjaalton, ah good. So perhaps just a matter of testing. | 19:46 |
| tjaalton | but it was a rh/gnome guy who made it happen there | 19:46 |
| tjaalton | yeah, needs testing to be sure | 19:46 |
| tjaalton | maybe unity/compiz needs to adjust | 19:47 |
| tjaalton | no idea | 19:47 |
| bryce | sounds like a job for the TODO page | 19:50 |
| tjaalton | btw, I think that for bugs just assigning them to people/the team should be sufficient :) | 19:51 |
| bryce | tjaalton, how do you mean? | 19:51 |
| tjaalton | bryce: meaning that maintaining a list on a wikipage takes effort :) | 19:53 |
| mlankhorst | I so how would I upload xserver-xorg, without it immediately getting pushed to raring directly? | 19:53 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: why? | 19:53 |
| mlankhorst | was curious | 19:54 |
| tjaalton | there is no -proposed for -proposed ;) | 19:54 |
| bryce | tjaalton, certainly does, but I'm fine to do that, it's helping me keep track. Some people have a *lot* of assigned bugs, so just looking at the raw list would have a lot of noise. | 19:55 |
| tjaalton | bryce: right, I don't mind you looking after them :) | 19:56 |
| tjaalton | and it's true that trying to find a decent bug to work on from a list of 500 is "hard" | 19:56 |
| tjaalton | without getting burned out | 19:57 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: the wheezy rc bug list is only 300! | 19:57 |
| * jcristau hides | 19:57 | |
| tjaalton | jcristau: hehe :) | 19:57 |
| bryce | tjaalton, maybe some day I'll write a web tool that pulls assignments from launchpad. | 20:13 |
| tjaalton | bryce: yeah that might be handy | 20:13 |
| RAOF | bryce, tjaalton: The upstream pointer barrier code is now sufficient, but the API's changed; unity will need to be ported. | 22:28 |
| bryce | RAOF, happen to know if there is a bug # or WI for that work? | 22:54 |
| RAOF | bryce: Let me check my filed bugs; if I haven't filed it, I don't think there's one. | 22:54 |
| mlankhorst | I had a feeling it would be something like that | 22:55 |
| RAOF | bryce: No; it looks like I haven't filed that. | 22:57 |
| bryce | RAOF, ok, subscribe me to it once it's filed if you don't mind | 23:00 |
| RAOF | bryce: Done. | 23:58 |
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