[04:23] <Kilos> morning all
[05:15] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:15] <mazal> More oom Kilos 
[05:17] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[05:17] <barrydk> Good morning everyone
[05:17] <barrydk> Helo Kilos how are you
[05:18] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[05:18] <barrydk> also good lovely hot morning
[05:18] <Kilos> yip
[05:45] <inetpro> good morning
[05:45] <barrydk> Morning
[05:45] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[05:46] <Kilos> you wet the bed?
[06:11] <Kilos> hmm
[06:21] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[07:15] <Kilos> hi jrgns hubx 
[07:16] <hubx> hi
[07:16] <jrgns> morning all, Kilos
[07:16] <mazal> Morning hubx , jrgns 
[07:19] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:33] <magespawn> morning all
[07:33] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:36] <magespawn> mad morning already and you Kilos?
[07:36] <Kilos> good here busy starting supper
[07:36] <Kilos> otherwise not bad
[07:37] <Kilos> sheep out chickens fed
[07:37] <Kilos> back still niggling though
[07:41] <magespawn> is the back a permenant problem or a recent injury?
[07:41] <Kilos> just last few weeks
[07:41] <magespawn> you on anything for it?
[07:41] <Kilos> hurt when tipping ran over for innoculating
[07:42] <Kilos> i hand upside down for a while daily and do situps that way to strengtheng muscles
[07:42] <Kilos> ram
[07:43] <Kilos> it is improving though
[07:43] <Kilos> hey Squirm 
[07:44] <magespawn> improvment is always good
[07:44] <Kilos> yip. think the muscles were getting weak with all the sitting so they let it slip out
[07:45] <magespawn> i have found being aware of the way i sit helps, i tend to slouch
[07:45] <Kilos> yeah
[07:48] <Kilos> still to sore to sit up straight
[07:48] <Kilos> slouching works
[07:48] <Kilos> hehe
[07:49] <magespawn> right
[08:07] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[08:07] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[08:53] <drussell> happy new year za folks ;o)
[08:56] <Vince-0> haai
[08:58] <Kilos> ty drussell and all the best to you as well
[09:17] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[09:17] <Kilos> you have a good break deegee
[09:17] <Kilos> ?
[09:17] <magespawn> ty not sure what happened
[09:18] <Kilos> interwebs most likely
[09:18] <Kilos> 8ta very slow here today
[09:18] <Kilos> i see there is linux software for my ups
[09:18] <magespawn> mm maybe
[09:18] <Kilos> and winsucks
[09:18] <magespawn> cool that will help to manage it
[09:19] <Kilos> 35 win download and 45m linux
[09:19] <Kilos> whew
[09:19] <Kilos> thank heavens for 8ta
[09:20] <Kilos> oh ya i still gotta fone them and see if they will speed up this connection
[09:22] <Kilos> will first test it on one of ians drives with xp
[09:29] <Kilos> i worry about installing foreign stuff here on unity
[09:39] <Kilos_> hmm 
[09:40] <Kilos_> grrr i forgot the ghost command
[09:52]  * Kilos got netsplit
[09:52] <Kilos> eek
[10:01] <Kilos> haha hes detached from screen
[10:02] <inetpro> Kilos: who's he?
[10:02] <Kilos> the weed
[10:02] <inetpro> ai!
[10:02] <Kilos> thats his away message
[10:02] <Kilos> lol
[10:03] <Kilos> i gotta get me one
[10:03] <Kilos> like guess what i broke now
[10:04] <inetpro> Kilos: you'd be a good spy
[10:04] <Kilos> hehe
[10:05] <Kilos> i dont spy on my friends
[10:53] <Kilos> do i get to be 00 inetpro 
[10:54] <Kilos> hey barns Banlam bakuman hows you guys
[10:54] <Kilos> ?
[11:10] <kbmonkey> Hello
[11:16] <Kilos> hiya monk
[11:16] <Kilos> ai kbmonkey 
[11:16] <kbmonkey> Hoe ganit my maat
[11:16] <Kilos> beter as met jou, jy het baie werk
[11:17] <Kilos> as daar n netsplit is dan kom QA terug en groet almal een vir een
[11:17] <Kilos> spam
[11:18] <kbmonkey> Ai. Net soos ek gedink het!
[11:18] <Kilos> oh jy het dit voorsien?
[11:18] <kbmonkey> Ek voel daai bug is bad, ons kan nie dit laat gebeur nie, oom.
[11:18] <Kilos> why you taaling today
[11:19] <Kilos> and the pro watches everything
[11:19] <Kilos> he never sleeps he says
[11:19] <kbmonkey> I can speak english handsomely since I was twice!
[11:19] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:19] <inetpro> uh?
[11:19] <Kilos> are you afrikaans
[11:20] <Kilos> im sure before you said easier in english
[11:20]  * mazal loer in
[11:20] <Kilos> ja when you were still travelling from the cape home
[11:21] <Kilos> lo mazal 
[11:21] <mazal> Hows things ?
[11:21] <Kilos> gaan leer python mazal 
[11:21] <kbmonkey> Hehe. Ja ek is oom, maar baie van die geek woorde ken ek net in engels
[11:21] <kbmonkey> Hi mazal
[11:21] <mazal> Why Kilos ?
[11:22] <Kilos> we need debugging done on QA
[11:22] <mazal> You don't need debugging to know what is wrong with QA
[11:22]  * mazal gets ready to run
[11:22] <mazal> She's female , there's your problem
[11:23]  * mazal runs
[11:23] <kbmonkey> hah!
[11:23] <Kilos> like if she was here she woulda greeted 39 peeps with her greeting
[11:23] <Kilos> major spam
[11:23] <Kilos> lol
[11:23] <mazal> hehehehe
[11:24] <mazal> Nah Oom Kilos you know I can't program
[11:24] <Kilos> thats why i said learn python dodo
[11:24] <Kilos> then in 5 years you will know how
[11:24] <Kilos> maybe
[11:25] <mazal> oi
[11:25] <kbmonkey> Ai
[11:26] <kbmonkey> We need to change the greeter
[11:26] <Kilos> apie hoekom is jy nie op my kanaal nie
[11:26] <kbmonkey> Reset its timeout if it detects a netsplit
[11:26] <Kilos> ah
[11:27] <Kilos> whew that will get your brain busy for a while and you outa trouble
[11:27] <kbmonkey> Hang on... laat ek uitvind hoe om die foon te laat join
[11:47] <Kilos> wb tumbleweed 
[12:09] <tumbleweed> hi Kilos
[12:25] <Kilos> hi smile you are early
[12:25] <smile> hi :)
[12:25] <smile> yes I am :)
[12:25] <mazal> Lo smile 
[12:25] <smile> I'm back from school :p
[12:52] <barrydk> Lekker aand almal
[12:55] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[12:55] <Kilos> where you been
[13:24] <magespawn> what is the best ubuntu replacement for hyperterminal
[13:24] <magespawn> ?
[13:25] <tumbleweed> screen
[13:25] <tumbleweed> screen /dev/ttyS0 (for example)
[13:31] <magespawn> okay this is going to interesting
[13:32] <magespawn> the console cable is connected via a usb adapter to my laptop
[13:34] <tumbleweed> then it's /dev/ttyUSB0 probably
[13:34] <magespawn> will try that
[13:35] <magespawn> okay just get a blinking cursor
[13:35] <tumbleweed> if you need a custom baud rate, /dev/ttyUSB0,9600 / whatever
[13:35] <magespawn> ah i do 
[13:36] <tumbleweed> there are a bunch of other flags too, see the manpage
[13:36] <magespawn> ty will do tumbleweed
[13:39] <magespawn> lots of reading ahead there
[14:12] <magespawn> later all
[15:14] <Kilos> nou kry ek warm
[15:15] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in irene south africa
[15:15] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[15:15] <Kilos> grrr
[15:44] <inetpro> Maaz: weather in Pretoria
[15:44] <Maaz> inetpro: That didn't seem to agree with me
[15:45] <Kilos> 10 mins then the idiot box will give weather
[15:46] <inetpro> Kilos: ai! Baie warm!
[15:47] <Kilos> ja
[15:48] <Kilos> eks seker dis 36 of even meer
[15:49] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey hot there too?
[15:50] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[15:51] <Cantide> hello '-';;
[15:52] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos and Cantide 
[15:52] <kbmonkey> it was hot, cooling a bit now
[15:52] <Cantide> hey kbmonkey :)
[15:52] <Cantide> yeah
[15:52] <Cantide> thankfully
[15:52] <kbmonkey> :)
[15:53] <Cantide> my dad seems to use Ubuntu only for solitaire -_-;;
[15:53] <kbmonkey> it could be worse!
[15:53] <Kilos> hehe tell him try freecell too
[15:53] <Kilos> and mahjongg
[15:54] <Kilos> thats what i do when peeps threaten to ban me
[15:54] <Cantide> haha
[15:54] <Cantide> i don't think he likes mahjong
[15:55] <kbmonkey> I cant figure out why my site subdomain wont show the content I put inside. hmpf.
[15:55] <kbmonkey> does he like racing games Cantide ?
[15:56] <Cantide> nah
[15:56] <Cantide> he likes solitaire haha
[15:56] <Cantide> i might try to put some other things on there for him
[15:56] <Kilos> and games like AOE?
[15:56] <Cantide> but i think he likes things that don't require much speed or hand-eye coordination
[15:56] <Kilos> ah
[15:57] <Kilos> weather
[15:57] <Kilos> gonna rain in durbs
[15:58] <Kilos> we hotashell
[15:58] <Kilos> 21/36 tomorrow
[15:59] <Vince-0> ow no
[15:59] <Vince-0> maritzburg has been hot
[16:00] <smile> :)
[16:00] <Kilos> yeah sleepy hollow can cook
[16:00] <smile> where is martizburg, Vince-0 ? :p
[16:01] <Kilos> just north of durban smaile
[16:01] <Kilos> smile, too
[16:01] <kbmonkey> what are you doing in pmb Vince-0? It can become a hot oven in there!
[16:01] <Kilos> 90 ks inland from de beach
[16:02] <Kilos> smile have you heard of the comrades marathon?
[16:02] <smile> okay, Kilos :)
[16:02] <Kilos> peeps run from durban to pmb
[16:02] <smile> :o
[16:02] <smile> how many km is that? :)
[16:02] <Kilos> and other way the following year
[16:03] <Kilos> 87 or 90
[16:04] <smile> wow ;)
[16:05] <Kilos> google the comrades
[16:05] <Kilos> world famous marathon
[16:06] <Kilos> even russians come run
[16:06] <smile> .com :)
[16:06] <Kilos> http://www.comrades.com/
[16:07] <Kilos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comrades_Marathon
[16:07] <Kilos> you like wikipedia
[16:08] <Squirm> just setup the network in my new flat
[16:08] <Squirm> taking a while to move in
[16:09] <Kilos> ah thats good Squirm 
[16:09] <kbmonkey> that is nice Squirm 
[16:10] <kbmonkey> busy copying apt archives to the desktop. saving bandwidth ;)
[16:10] <Kilos> hehe 
[16:10] <Squirm> I'd have done it during work time(seeing as installing network in the flats is what I do), but I couldn't stand being outside
[16:10] <Kilos> cp gave me hassles once so i use rsync
[16:10] <Squirm> even though I was for a whole bunch of the time
[16:11] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you can save over 300m
[16:12] <Kilos> actually much more with all apps there too
[16:14] <Squirm> that's why aptoncd was awesome
[16:14] <Kilos> yeah
[16:14] <Kilos> and remastersys
[16:14] <Kilos> but now they talking about another tool
[16:15] <Vince-0> Kilos, some techies in pmb today - sux to be a techie in that heat
[16:15] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <Squirm> Vince-0: I was there for a few hours today
[16:15] <Squirm> on the radio, said 33 in pmb and 31 in Mooi River
[16:15] <Kilos> try being a diesel mechanic in that heat
[16:15] <Squirm> :/
[16:16] <Vince-0> the valley is like 8 degrees hotter than the coast
[16:16] <Vince-0> ag nee
[16:16] <Kilos> you gotta keep you tools in shade otherwise you cant touch them
[16:17] <Squirm> Kilos: happens here too
[16:22] <kbmonkey> ouch, that must be hot
[16:23] <Squirm> kbmonkey: yes
[16:23] <Squirm> bbl, going to a friends for supper
[16:23] <Kilos> enjoy
[16:26] <kbmonkey> I had my lunch late, so I am good for dinner :)
[16:26] <Kilos> hehe kbmonkey QA only does that spam greet if i ctrl +c the tyerminal
[16:27] <Kilos> terminal
[16:32] <kbmonkey> what terminal?
[16:32] <kbmonkey> the one your run the bot from?
[16:35] <kbmonkey> it is still busy copying my apt archives, it is only 400MB
[16:35] <Kilos> cli
[16:36] <Kilos> wow my archives are 3.5g
[16:36] <kbmonkey> wow!
[16:37] <Kilos> ya the bot came back with a tail after netprobs and when i said die she got cheeky so i did ctrl+c in the terminal she runs from
[16:37] <kbmonkey> i'm copying over a wireless network through my phone. maybe that is why
[16:38] <Kilos> dont you have a /var/cache/apt/archives with all your packages in?
[16:39] <kbmonkey> that is where I copying from
[16:39] <kbmonkey> from laptop to desktop
[16:39] <Kilos> only 400 meg
[16:40] <kbmonkey> yup ":)
[16:40] <Kilos> something wrong there
[16:40] <kbmonkey> I run a light system, I dare say.
[16:40] <kbmonkey> why do you say that?
[16:40] <Kilos> oh and no game packages
[16:40] <Kilos> 0AD is 388m alone
[16:44] <kbmonkey> well I have no gnome dependencies, no unity, no kde
[16:44] <kbmonkey> well the largest game I have is supertuxkart. that is almost 600MB
[16:44] <kbmonkey> but I build that from source, so its not part of my updates
[16:45] <kbmonkey> hah. I found a usb disk. I'm going to copy the debs on that, and be done with it before the wireless rsync
[16:46] <Kilos> have you got a screenshot i can see
[16:46] <Kilos> thats crashbang hey?
[16:47] <kbmonkey> yes, crunchbang
[16:47] <Kilos> what gui
[16:48] <kbmonkey> you can have xfce same as xubuntu
[16:48] <kbmonkey> or openbox, another light gui like xfce
[16:49] <Kilos> maybe i look at it next month when next 8ta 2+1 goes in
[16:49] <kbmonkey> by using light guis, the updates also weigh less. it adds up for updates :)
[16:50] <kbmonkey> I think we post you discs with repos when we get
[16:51] <kbmonkey> I think william had the repos with him, nuvolari may have copied them, I'm not sure.
[16:52] <Kilos> william walter?
[16:52] <kbmonkey> but I have blank dvd's to use and wouldn't mind posting to you Kilos 
[16:52] <kbmonkey> yes 
[16:52] <inetpro> Cantide: let your dad play simutrans, I'm sure he will enjoy it
[16:52] <Kilos> sounds good ty kbmonkey 
[16:53] <Kilos> im a rich bitch with many pcs so can play
[16:53] <kbmonkey> i've had a spindle of dvd's for a year now, I dont use them, all is usb now :p
[16:53] <Kilos> lol
[16:53] <kbmonkey> might as well XD
[16:53] <Kilos> try make an iso of your working system
[16:54] <Kilos> dunno if remastersys works on crunchbang
[16:54] <kbmonkey> yes it does
[16:56] <inetpro> Kilos: have you ever played simutrans?
[16:56] <Kilos> nope inetpro is it in the repos?
[16:57] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[16:57] <Kilos> i go see
[16:57] <inetpro> transportation simulator
[16:57] <inetpro> an amazing game
[16:57]  * inetpro loves it
[16:57] <inetpro> though I haven't played in a while
[16:57]  * kbmonkey goes to check out simutrans too :D
[16:57] <Kilos> might make my life sweeter when i get threatened with banning
[16:58] <inetpro> hahah
[16:58] <inetpro> Kilos: you'll be banned if you start spamming us
[16:58] <kbmonkey> aah, like transport tycoon
[16:59] <Kilos> wow only 4745 kB to download
[16:59]  * Kilos gets
[16:59] <kbmonkey> wow the detail is stunning
[17:01] <Kilos> bbs i go eat
[17:05] <Cantide> looks a bit like openTTD
[17:05] <Cantide> thanks, inetpro :)
[17:06] <inetpro> Cantide: you're welcome
[17:06] <inetpro> even the forums are amazing with lots of stuff you can read up 
[17:19]  * inetpro is stumped by cal 9 1752
[17:20] <inetpro> how the heck can that month only have 19 days?
[17:23] <kbmonkey> I don't think my tram rails are building correct :p ha ha ha
[17:25] <Kilos> do i need a better graphics card?
[17:25] <Kilos> http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img651/5656/screenshotfrom201301091.png
[17:25] <Kilos> or am i doing something wrong
[17:26] <kbmonkey> that looks right, Kilos 
[17:26] <Kilos> oh
[17:26] <kbmonkey> press F1 and start there :)
[17:27] <kbmonkey> it's beautiful pixel art, don't be frightened
[17:27] <Kilos> everything so tiny i battle to read 
[17:27] <kbmonkey> use < and > to zoom the map
[17:27] <kbmonkey> oh the fonts?
[17:29] <Kilos> pmb only 26 tomorrow
[17:30] <kbmonkey> shame Kilos, is that font too small to read?
[17:30] <Kilos> yeah
[17:31] <Kilos> im forever ctrl + ing on sites
[17:31] <Kilos> hehe
[17:33] <kbmonkey> :( I don't see a way to size the font larger
[17:41] <superfly> *yawn*
[17:41] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[17:42] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:44] <Kilos> hehe ill need a 50 inch screen
[17:48] <Kilos> sjoe 
[17:51] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:51]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:51] <Kilos> Maaz, large
[17:51] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[17:54] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[17:54] <Maaz> Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed
[17:55] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please
[17:55] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure
[17:55] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thanks!
[17:55] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure
[17:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey!
[17:55] <kbmonkey> yay!
[17:55] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:55] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:55]  * kbmonkey *gulps*
[17:55] <kbmonkey> Maaz, its hot!
[17:55] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sorry...
[17:55] <kbmonkey> he he
[17:55] <Kilos> hehe
[17:55] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thanks
[17:55] <Maaz> kbmonkey: No problem
[17:57]  * Kilos watches big bang theory
[17:57] <Kilos> fonts right size there
[17:58] <kbmonkey> ha ha
[17:58] <kbmonkey> it is a funny show that, init?
[17:58] <Kilos> yeah hehe
[18:00] <kbmonkey> I like how sheldon's mom psychoanalizes everyone. he he
[18:37] <kbmonkey> query
[19:12] <Kilos> this ups has been runnig all day on xp pc without a prob
[19:14] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[19:15] <Kilos> ya ai!
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you modified it again?
[19:15] <Kilos> i dont understand why it gives probs here
[19:15] <Kilos> just disconnected internal battery
[19:15] <Kilos> but still rebooted here so i moved it
[19:16] <Kilos> now i got the software win win and linux but need to figure how to tell the thing what to do
[19:17] <Kilos> i think via network cable
[19:18] <Kilos> the software asks for ip addresses even
[19:19] <Kilos> maybe the ups's programming is corrupted some
[19:19] <Kilos> wb smile
[19:19] <kbmonkey> what do you want to tell the ups, Kilos 
[19:19] <kbmonkey> power-manager settings?
[19:20] <Kilos> when i have it on this pc it keeps rebooting
[19:20] <smile> thanks :p
[19:20] <smile> lol, i quit seamonkey xD
[19:20] <kbmonkey> it kills the power to the pc?
[19:20] <Kilos> but worked for months without a prob
[19:20] <kbmonkey> does not sound good :(
[19:20] <kbmonkey> ups's work unconfigured
[19:20] <Kilos> used to switch off 2 mins after power cut
[19:21] <Kilos> if its faulty it should be faulty on both pcs
[19:21] <kbmonkey> and now?
[19:21] <kbmonkey> maybe it's your pc?
[19:21] <Kilos> its been running fine on xp all day
[19:21] <Kilos> yeah but only when ups is plugged in?
[19:22] <kbmonkey> a ghost in the ups
[19:22] <Kilos> lol
[19:22] <kbmonkey> voodoo magik
[19:22] <Kilos> dont start
[19:23] <Kilos> i think i gotta check voltages all over and see where something isnt happy
[19:23] <Kilos> cant be from overheating because it rebooted within 2 mins of startup
[19:24] <Kilos> i didnt try all the output sockets either
[19:24] <Kilos> there are 3
[19:27] <kbmonkey> ai, you have your work cut out for you, man
[19:28] <Kilos> yeah as usual
[19:28] <Kilos> nothing ever runs smooth here
[19:29] <Kilos> then to top it all up i get threatened with banning
[19:29] <Kilos> whew
[19:30] <smile> byee :)
[19:30] <smile> good night Kilos :)
[19:30] <Kilos> toods smile
[19:30] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:30] <smile> thanks :D
[19:41] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[19:41] <Kilos> what
[19:41] <inetpro> Kilos: don't worry, we won't ban you
[19:41] <inetpro> just yet
[19:41] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:41] <Kilos> ty
[19:42] <Kilos> hmm
[19:45] <kbmonkey> sjoe but its still hot
[19:45] <kbmonkey> the wind has completely stopped now
[19:45] <kbmonkey> dead quiet
[19:45] <Kilos> been like that here all day
[19:45] <Kilos> wind helps
[19:46] <Kilos> ask bikers
[19:46] <Kilos> travelling at 80kph temp is ten degrees lower
[19:47] <Kilos> i go sleep now. you guys dont stay up too late. work tomorrow
[19:47] <Kilos> sleep tight all
[19:48] <kbmonkey> okay gn kilos
[19:48] <kbmonkey> will do!
[20:36] <superfly> it's raining here...
[20:37] <kbmonkey> nice
[20:37] <kbmonkey> nothing here, yet.
[20:47] <kbmonkey> but I hear the thunder coming from the north