| allee | debian/copyright: is there a tool scans the source and write the DEP-5 format as a start ? | 01:09 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:51 |
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| shadeslayer | afiestas: we have the latest release 1.1.5, unless something changed in the last 24 hours | 09:16 |
| shadeslayer | otoh I could setup a daily recipe, but the packaging is spooky | 09:20 |
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| shadeslayer | fun | 09:36 |
| shadeslayer | calligra is slightly broken | 09:36 |
| shadeslayer | good thing I didn't send this email to KDE Devel | 09:36 |
| * shadeslayer goes off to fix | 09:37 | |
| yofel_ | shadeslayer: in my next upgrade test kdm worked fine, but this time the wallpaper didn't get changed to Elarun... otherwise everything works fine | 10:28 |
| yofel_ | shadeslayer: one thing: if you want print-manager installed you'll have to add an updated version of kubuntu-meta | 10:29 |
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| shadeslayer | re Elarun that should be fixed I think | 10:30 |
| yofel | I thought so too, but it did happen just now. | 10:31 |
| shadeslayer | don't remember where the fix was supposed to be | 10:32 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/metadata.desktop | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | should say : [Wallpaper] | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | defaultWallpaperTheme=Elarun | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | defaultFileSuffix=.png | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | defaultWidth=2560 | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | defaultHeight=1600 | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | note the dimensions | 10:34 |
| Riddell | kdm uses /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc | 10:35 |
| Riddell | the wallpaper needs to be upgraded manually I think | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | *facepalm* you're right | 10:35 |
| Riddell | or by a script | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | the one I pasted before was for the screenlocker | 10:35 |
| yofel | hm, I thought we were defaulting the wallpaper to our kde-default.png symlink? | 10:35 |
| yofel | (which makes the wallpaper appear twice in the settings btw.) | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | ^ | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | I worked around this in Netrunner by putting it in /usr/share/netrunner ... we could put the symlink in /usr/share/kubuntu-settings-desktop | 10:39 |
| yofel | sounds good to me, now it's just an image called "2560x1600" which is ugly | 10:41 |
| yofel | I wonder what uses that image though | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | ubiquity | 10:42 |
| yofel | ah | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | review plz : http://paste.kde.org/642500/ | 10:42 |
| yofel | wth is up with hidden folders in /usr o.O? usr/share/templates/.source/ | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | heh, don't ask me | 10:44 |
| yofel | ack otherwise | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | but there were 2 bugs, one that template files get pulled in even tho the app is not installed | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | and if you try to hide the app using NoDisplay=true it won't work | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | fix for the second one is here : http://www.davidfaure.fr/2013/knewfilemenu.cpp.diff | 10:45 |
| yofel | hm | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: do kubuntu-dev have upload rights for calligra? | 10:49 |
| yofel | yes | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | ah cool | 10:50 |
| * yofel wonders how he managed to break upower... AC is in, upower says it's offline | 10:51 | |
| Quintasan_ | Sigh | 10:52 |
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| Quintasan | Hopefully I passed | 10:53 |
| yofel | that bad? | 10:53 |
| yofel | ^^ | 10:53 |
| Quintasan | Not as bad as I expected it to be | 10:53 |
| Quintasan | but not entirely good | 10:53 |
| Quintasan | multivariable deriviatives are not what I expected | 10:54 |
| Quintasan | and I am not sure if I got them right | 10:54 |
| Quintasan | plus integrals and ofc I didnt even touch those | 10:54 |
| Quintasan | I have a second attempt but I would like to think the first attempt was enough | 10:55 |
| Quintasan | Will see next week, tomorrow is logic. | 10:55 |
| yofel | second attempt is good... but believe me, you usually don't have time to study for that... | 10:56 |
| Quintasan | yes | 10:56 |
| Quintasan | especially I have like. 4 tests next week? | 10:56 |
| * Quintasan takes a break and goes back to studying | 10:56 | |
| * yofel passes Quintasan a cup of coffee | 10:56 | |
| Quintasan | welp | 10:58 |
| Quintasan | I think I have lecture to attend in like an hour | 10:58 |
| Quintasan | gotta pack some stuff and head to that | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: now you understand why I had tests all the time for the last 4 years :P | 11:02 |
| yofel | he's getting there :P | 11:03 |
| Riddell | meh, anyone got any great ideas why qt isn't compiling on arm and powerpc | 11:15 |
| Riddell | arm complains about no QtGui which is weird | 11:15 |
| Riddell | powerpc complains about QtWebKit which is not unusual but no reason why it would be platform specific | 11:15 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1098136] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/xdg/Troll... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1098136 (by Amit Kumar) | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | and now calligra has failed because /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lnepomukcore | 11:34 |
| Riddell | well it compiled when I uploaded it :) | 11:36 |
| Riddell | needs to build-dep on nepomuk-core-dev? | 11:36 |
| vHanda | calligra uses Nepomuk? | 11:36 |
| Riddell | yes it doesn't have that | 11:36 |
| Riddell | vHanda: seems so | 11:37 |
| Riddell | ./CMakeLists.txt: macro_log_feature(NEPOMUK_FOUND "Nepomuk" "Handles metadata of resources" FALSE "Required to handle metadata of resources") | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: that's what I'm thinking as well :P | 11:37 |
| Riddell | ./libs/widgets/CMakeLists.txt: target_link_libraries(kowidgets kotext pigmentcms ${NEPOMUK_LIBRARIES} ${SOPRANO_LIBRARIES}) | 11:37 |
| vHanda | hmm, they seem to have basic tag support | 11:38 |
| vHanda | but that is kdelibs/nepomuk not nepomukcore | 11:38 |
| vHanda | ( as of Sept 12 2012 ) | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: I have a suspicion it's because of http://paste.kde.org/642524/ | 11:39 |
| vHanda | that's kdepim | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | should kdepimlibs-dev depend on nepomuk-core-dev ? | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 11:40 |
| vHanda | if they use nepomuk-core (which I think they do) then yes | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 11:41 |
| yofel | vHanda: as I'm a bit confused after the last discussion about it, is the presence of nepomuk-widgets implied if nepomuk-core is there? | 11:41 |
| vHanda | nepomuk-widgets cannot be compiled with nepomuk-core | 11:42 |
| vHanda | it also won't work (runtime) without nepomuk-core | 11:42 |
| vHanda | so it has a compile time and runtime dependency to nepomuk-core | 11:42 |
| vHanda | *cannot be compiled WITHOUT nepomuk-core | 11:43 |
| vHanda | sorry | 11:43 |
| vHanda | I should proof read what I write | 11:43 |
| shadeslayer | alright | 11:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I'll go ahead and add a nepomuk-core-dev dep to kdepimlibs-dev | 11:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: go ahead but that might not do much if you're looking at calligra :) | 11:44 |
| yofel | vHanda: ah, I was remembering the dolphin build failure because the cmake check for nepomuk-widgets was missing | 11:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah, let's see, I'm compiling by adding nepomuk-core-dev to calligra | 11:44 |
| vHanda | yofel: right. I fixed that | 11:44 |
| vHanda | but not in time for RC2 | 11:44 |
| yofel | thanks | 11:45 |
| vHanda | yofel: http://commits.kde.org/kde-baseapps/da5b7dcde4b5bbef28600e31ebb540d7f182050b | 11:45 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: it'll build fine with nepomuk-core-dev, already tried it when I attempted to backport it to precise | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 11:46 |
| yofel | vHanda: ah, perfect. Thanks | 11:46 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: if I add nepomuk-core-dev to kdepimlibs5-dev it'll get pulled in automagically when building calligra | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | as well as other stuff | 11:49 |
| Riddell | really? why does calligra use kdepimlibs? | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | * KDE PIM iCalendar - KDE Personal Information Management iCalendar Libraries | 11:54 |
| oy | what is the best way to provide KolorServer to kubuntu for KWin-4.10 colour correction? | 11:59 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 12:03 | |
| Riddell | oy: I'm not sure what you're asking there | 12:04 |
| Riddell | oy: you're the upstream for KolorServer? | 12:04 |
| oy | yes, nearly | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/graphics/kolor-manager/repository | 12:04 |
| Riddell | nearly? :) | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | that would need packaging I guess :) | 12:05 |
| oy | KWin-4.10 needs KolorServer to enable ICC colour correction | 12:05 |
| Riddell | oy: is there a release of KolorServer? | 12:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I've uploaded pimlibs with dep on nepomuk-core-dev :) | 12:05 |
| oy | Riddell, and shadeslayer yes we have packages | 12:06 |
| oy | https://www.oyranos.org/kolormanager/ on the bottom | 12:06 |
| shadeslayer | Should I trust the SSL cert? :P | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | oy: I don't see a proper release | 12:08 |
| oy | KolorServer is part of KolorManager and both use ICC Examin + Oyranos + libXcm all inofficially packaged for debian | 12:08 |
| oy | shadeslayer, https://projects.kde.org/news/192 ? | 12:09 |
| Riddell | oy: presumably it needs packages of Oyranos first? | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I was about to open that link on projects.kde.org | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yep : FIND_PACKAGE(Oyranos REQUIRED) | 12:10 |
| oy | Riddell, the dependencies are all packaged in the same way | 12:10 |
| oy | you can find the package list under xUbuntu: https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor?project=multimedia%3Acolor_management | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think we can use that packagign | 12:13 |
| shadeslayer | *packaging | 12:13 |
| oy | oh, why? I made it to help for Debian and Ubuntu | 12:14 |
| oy | shadeslayer, what can be done to improve? | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | because it has a different format to what is actual packaging? IIRC OBS has this flat heiarchy packaging which is not valid debian packaging | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | *actual debian packaging | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | (can be made actual debian packaging depending on how OBSy the packaging is...) | 12:15 |
| oy | I used a debian packaging tutorial | 12:16 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it seems like a good start | 12:16 |
| Riddell | oy: how much does this conflict with colord? | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer | OBS confuses me as hell | 12:17 |
| oy | I had them both running side by side, did not uninstall colord, works | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | I don't even know where the packaging is so I can have a look | 12:17 |
| oy | shadeslayer, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kolor-manager&project=multimedia%3Acolor_management | 12:18 |
| oy | shadeslayer, you can click the package name in the monitor list | 12:18 |
| oy | agreed, it is different to launchpad | 12:18 |
| shadeslayer | looks sane from an overview, except that the copyright needs fixing ( 80 char width _ | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | *) | 12:21 |
| oy | will do, thanks | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | I didn't know that OBS accepted this format | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | I was only aware of the flat hiearchy one | 12:22 |
| oy | shadeslayer, I saw as well other formats, but because of the debian tutorial I choose that one | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | it is flat too :P | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | oy: oh and maybe you can use dh $@ --with kde | 12:23 |
| oy | ok | 12:23 |
| shadeslayer | and remove the sample cruft in there as well | 12:23 |
| oy | shadeslayer, sample cruft? in which file? | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | debian/rules | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | "# Sample debian/rules that uses debhelper." | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | not needed :) | 12:25 |
| oy | ah, see it, good | 12:25 |
| Riddell | oy: out of these packages in that OBS archive you're saying we want oyranos and kolor-manager in kubuntu? | 12:27 |
| oy | Riddell, yes, these + libXcm (dep) + ICC Examin (optionally used by KolorManager) | 12:28 |
| oy | "icc-profiles-free" is already in wheezy and I guess "xcalib" is available too, both are dependencies too | 12:29 |
| Riddell | oy: as someone who knows nothing about colour correction can you tell me why a window manager needs it? isn't it better done for the whole monitor? | 12:30 |
| oy | Riddell, the WM manages all monitors, so it is ICC colour correction for the whole monitor | 12:31 |
| oy | Riddell, in the past we (X11) had only 1D LUT correction, which means no opt out, colorimetric based correction only for ICC supporting apps | 12:32 |
| oy | in the old LUT way, Dolphin does no colorimetric correction why DigiKam/Krita etc. do | 12:33 |
| oy | Riddell, with KWin ICC colour correction all apps are corrected together, including video on the GPU | 12:34 |
| oy | in the old LUT way, Dolphin does no colorimetric correction *while* DigiKam/Krita etc. do | 12:35 |
| Tm_T | oy: is the colour correction per-display? | 12:35 |
| oy | Tm_T, per output | 12:35 |
| oy | alias per monitor | 12:35 |
| Tm_T | oh good | 12:36 |
| Tm_T | so I have some hope to get reasonable results with external monitor and laptop | 12:36 |
| Riddell | oy: how is this different from colord-kde applying a profile to a monitor? | 12:37 |
| oy | Tm_T: yes that is one use case | 12:37 |
| oy | Riddell, colord-kde does only calibration, which is a 1D LUT | 12:38 |
| oy | Riddell, it does no correction for different primaries or saturation, calibration helps only in improving gray ramps, but that is covered by ICC profiles in KWin as well | 12:39 |
| oy | the 1D Lut this is very long available (perhaps 10 years). xcalib can do that for instance | 12:40 |
| oy | a calibration does not so much for small gamut laptops + attached sRGB/wide Gamut external monitors | 12:42 |
| Tm_T | ^ | 12:43 |
| Riddell | oy: no 1.0 on http://sourceforge.net/projects/oyranos/files/Oyranos/ ? | 12:44 |
| oy | Riddell, not yet, we are still in beta and expect some minor changes | 12:45 |
| oy | btw. colord is guessedly beta too or alpha | 12:45 |
| Riddell | oy: but the OBS archive does have 1.0.0? | 12:46 |
| oy | Riddell, yes, of KolorManager, but not of its dependencies | 12:46 |
| Riddell | oh I see | 12:47 |
| oy | KolorManager exposes a limited set of features, we think we can garantee to remain stable | 12:47 |
| Riddell | oy: where's the place to download KolorManager sources? | 12:47 |
| oy | the Oyranos geature set is much broader | 12:47 |
| oy | Riddell, we hoped that git snapshots are fine? http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kolor-manager.git&a=tags | 12:48 |
| oy | for most of other packages there is: http://sourceforge.net/projects/oyranos/files/ | 12:49 |
| Riddell | oy: that not quite kosher, KolorManager is ment to be 1.0 and stable but there's no tars? | 12:51 |
| Darkwing | Morning guys | 12:51 |
| oy | hmm, need to find a place for that | 12:51 |
| Riddell | oy: you can use ftp.kde.org or the same sourceforge project as oyranos no? | 12:52 |
| oy | ftp.kde.org would be sound | 12:52 |
| Riddell | oy: ask in #kde-sysadmin how you do that, I think you need to upload it somewhere then file a request on bugs.kde.org for sysadmin to move it to release | 12:53 |
| oy | ah, good to know | 12:53 |
| Riddell | oy: where is the GUI in kwin for this? | 12:55 |
| * oy works on the fixes and pushes a new tar ball | 12:55 | |
| apachelogger | yes, upload to incoming, then file a sysamind request to move it to ftpmaster containing target path and the sha1 of the tarball | 12:56 |
| oy | Riddell, http://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en | 12:58 |
| oy | the enabling of colour correction happens inside KWin effect dialog, it is for the first release experimental | 12:59 |
| Riddell | oy: groovy thanks for answering my questions, I'll look into getting it packaged and in the archive | 13:05 |
| oy | Riddell, thanks, meanwhile I will work on a kolor-manager-1.0.1 release and proper upload | 13:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:14 |
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| Quintasan | shadeslayer: It's not like tests all the time | 14:53 |
| Quintasan | It's like tests because it's the end of semster :P | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | mfw I can do nothing for whole 10 months after 15 February | 15:02 |
| Riddell | what happens then? | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan has tests for the next 10 months | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | it's the shadeslayer test schedule problem all over again | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Some tests and end of the year | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: after that more free time | 15:04 |
| Riddell | that's some long tests | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | aaaand start of new semester | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: That won't be the case hopefully | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | If I pass all the tests next week I will have only ONE exam in February | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | there is four of them so it is doable | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | so what's after feburary? :P | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | one test a week | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | or perhaps two? :P | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: one word, Calculus | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: nothing lol | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I get only lectures that I have to attend to | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | Besides, why am I explaining this stuff to you | 15:08 |
| * Quintasan thinks he would be better off learning stuff for tomorrow | 15:09 | |
| apachelogger | word | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: calculus is fun | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | it's another foremost topic when having coffee @ uni | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | If you know what the hell is going on then it is :P | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | the secret with calculus is that no one knows what is going on and that you just have to make the right guesses | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | ^ :D | 15:10 |
| * shadeslayer bows to apachelogger | 15:10 | |
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| yofel | shadeslayer: 4.9.97 precise is done from my side. Anything you have left? | 16:27 |
| Riddell | Darkwing, apachelogger, JontheEchidna, jussi, ScottK: can I get some Kubuntu stickers for FOSDEM with kubuntu funds? | 16:30 |
| JontheEchidna | +1 | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: marble all working | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | ? | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | +1 | 16:33 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: the current package set that's in staging works fine for what I tested | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | ah cool | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | please go ahead and copy stuff :) | 16:46 |
| yofel | ok, copying then | 16:47 |
| yofel | done | 16:52 |
| Riddell | how's this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/output2.pdf | 16:57 |
| jessie | Other than being sideways, it looks good. | 16:58 |
| yofel | the KDE logo looks out of place | 16:59 |
| yofel | compared to the kubuntu logo positioning above I mean | 16:59 |
| yofel | otherwise nice | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | mfw dolphin crashes when one tries to mass tag files | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | god KDE should do something about mass edition of things | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | Amarok UI freezes and users have no idea what's going on | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | Dolphin crashes | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | ... | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | vHanda: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313026 | 17:13 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 313026 in general "Dolphin crashes when trying to mass add Nepomuk tags" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 17:13 |
| Quintasan | You are probably interested | 17:13 |
| * Quintasan can consistetly reproduce this | 17:14 | |
| Quintasan | lol | 17:15 |
| Quintasan | If I Alt+Enter, go to Information and press Add tags there | 17:15 |
| Quintasan | it works | 17:15 |
| Quintasan | ... | 17:15 |
| Quintasan | <sandsmark> bah, can we revert the qml screen locker before release? :3 | 17:19 |
| Quintasan | <sandsmark> it still has some ugly regressions | 17:19 |
| Quintasan | NOW | 17:19 |
| Quintasan | this looks promising... | 17:19 |
| txwikinger | Wonder if someone could help me | 17:24 |
| txwikinger | On my panel.. my task manager is really small because the tray is using up too much space | 17:24 |
| txwikinger | Any idea how that can be fixed? | 17:24 |
| jessie | Quintasan: I cannot confirm the crash. | 17:33 |
| sbivol_ | txwikinger: remove all the panels, then right-click the desktop and choose Add Panel -> Defaul panel | 17:33 |
| txwikinger | ok.. found the issue.. there are lots of useless entries in the tray settings... where did they come from? | 17:34 |
| jessie | Actually, I lied, Quintasan. With 4 images it didn't crash, with 200 it did. | 17:34 |
| txwikinger | sbivol_: Yeah.. that unfortuantely loses all my customizations | 17:34 |
| txwikinger | wonder what all those statusnotifieritems supposed to be! | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | jessie: With small number of elements is not a problem | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | I have 5 photos of my friend doing a kickflip,taggin them skateboarding was not a problem | 17:37 |
| Quintasan | but taggin 600 pictures from our skateboarding trip crashed the whole thing | 17:37 |
| Quintasan | :P | 17:37 |
| txwikinger | :q | 17:37 |
| txwikinger | :;; | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: KDE does not scale | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | we need to make it webscale | 17:41 |
| txwikinger | how do you scale a desktop shadeslayer? | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | by using mongodb instead of mysql | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | don't you know? mongodb is webscale | 17:42 |
| Quintasan | NoSQL? | 17:42 |
| Quintasan | Sounds good | 17:42 |
| Quintasan | vHanda: ^^ | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | No, Mongodb | 17:43 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: look at MongoDB page derp | 17:43 |
| txwikinger | Riddell.. do you know what all the statusnotifieritems in the system tray entries supposed to do? | 17:46 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: yeah, why do you have ones which are unclear? | 17:46 |
| txwikinger | yes.. in my laptop there are quite a bunch that start with numbers and do not mean anything | 17:47 |
| txwikinger | on the netbook there are none | 17:47 |
| txwikinger | of these | 17:47 |
| txwikinger | those funny entries make the trasy uneccessarry wide | 17:48 |
| txwikinger | I had to change them all to hidden to be able to see my task manager properly | 17:48 |
| txwikinger | Deleting them in the System Tray Settings UI does not seem to work | 17:50 |
| txwikinger | I believe they first appeared after a crash of plasma.. well the panel disppeared and came back a bit later | 17:52 |
| Riddell | my systray has a circular one with a number in it which is for downloads and notificatios | 17:53 |
| Riddell | otherwise I don't know why one would have a number | 17:53 |
| txwikinger | :1.112/org/kde/statusnotifieritem/1 | 17:54 |
| txwikinger | that is one example of it | 17:54 |
| txwikinger | Well. I found something in the KDE forum.. seems to be a kdelibs bug | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did you do an announce on kubuntu.org? | 18:17 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: should be added to the existing 4.9.97 one | 18:25 |
| Riddell | hi skaet! | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: okay | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | I'll do it before sleeping | 18:25 |
| skaet | hiya Riddell! | 18:26 |
| skaet | :) | 18:26 |
| * shadeslayer waves to skaet | 18:27 | |
| Riddell | skaet: happy new year | 18:27 |
| * skaet waves back to shadeslayer | 18:28 | |
| skaet | happy new year, Riddell | 18:28 |
| * skaet glad to be back online again | 18:29 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer: thanks, I didn't as I left the office right after that | 18:35 |
| * yofel wonders if kmail would be faster if akonadi used NoSQL | 18:35 | |
| rbelem | é o weechat | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh look an rbelem | 19:25 |
| rbelem | :-D | 19:26 |
| rbelem | wrong channel | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | so kubuntu-devel is now a 'wrong' channel for you eh | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | hiding from us | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | seem to get this slight issue with the new SNA stuff http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/10/plasma-desktopS17003.png | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | wasn't getting this earlier | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | ( see the 2 arrows ) | 19:36 |
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| rbelem | :-D | 20:11 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: mfw UXA was supposed to fix all of the bugs of EXA | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | rofl | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: I have intel, but not a sandybridge cpu | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: yeah I'm slightly confused as well, do people with non-sandybridge arch's get the same perf improvements? | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | maybe ask in #ubuntu-x ? | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll test it in a bit | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | gives me a nice excuse to play minecraft :P | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 20:20 |
| * shadeslayer is still upgrading | 20:20 | |
| shadeslayer | updated steam \o/ | 20:21 |
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| * sreich strolls in with his ivy bridge and gtx 670 ;p | 20:22 | |
| sreich | oh yeah, i'm bad | 20:22 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 20:22 |
| shadeslayer | sreich: go test new stuff | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | go go go | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | you get to play TF2 | 20:23 |
| sreich | lol | 20:24 |
| sreich | of course | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | oh wow | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | shift + tab works | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | didn't work earlier | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | as does big picture | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | whoop | 20:25 |
| snele | guys, does anybody knows irc nickname of the guy how redisigned plasma theme for 4.10? mart? notmart? marco? something else? :) | 20:34 |
| snele | *who | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | there's notmart | 20:35 |
| shadeslayer | but I don't think he did the redesign | 20:35 |
| shadeslayer | it was Nuno iirc | 20:35 |
| snele | I think it is notmart: http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Graphics/Time_to_refresh_some_air | 20:35 |
| shadeslayer | well both of them | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | so you want to talk to pinheiro and notmart | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | #oxygen probably | 20:37 |
| snele | shadeslayer: thanks! they are both in #oxygen :) | 20:39 |
| JontheEchidna | Well X still works | 20:40 |
| snele | they introduces regression with new theme in icon-only task manager so I have to ping them :) | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: "Update: Packages for Precise users are now avaliable via the same Beta PPA mentioned above." | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | good enough? | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | or should I add the word awesome in there | 20:41 |
| * shadeslayer removes the word 'same' | 20:44 | |
| shadeslayer | poor buildd's | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | I get this when building qtcreator : http://paste.kde.org/643058/ | 20:53 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, I'm seeing some font artifacting in Chrome with this SNA stuff | 20:56 |
| JontheEchidna | on its tabbar | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | dunno, no such thing here | 20:57 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/3No4L.png | 20:58 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-f22392 | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | anywho | 21:09 |
| * shadeslayer goes back to pgst | 21:09 | |
| Mamarok | dear Kubuntu devs, it would be really great if we could get debugging symbols for taglib | 21:48 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: use dbgsym packages? they get made for everything | 21:54 |
| Mamarok | hm, what is that? never heard of | 21:55 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 21:55 |
| Riddell | see "If there is no -dbg package:" | 21:55 |
| Mamarok | *sigh* and you really expect me to ask the average user to do that? | 21:56 |
| Mamarok | looks complicated even to me | 21:57 |
| Mamarok | apparently just rebuilding taglib from source with debug enabled seems much easier than that | 21:57 |
| Mamarok | and then it has to be removed again? | 21:59 |
| Mamarok | not user friendly at all, and the bug reports we get for taglib are from plain users | 21:59 |
| Mamarok | too complicated | 21:59 |
| mikhas | option b) contribute to a project with no users → no complaints | 22:00 |
| mikhas | SCNR | 22:00 |
| Mamarok | mikhas: well, lukily Amarok has a lot of users, much better that way :) | 22:00 |
| mikhas | but you just complained about having users, in a way ;-) | 22:01 |
| yofel | adding that automatically was a feature request for our debug installer, but last time we talked JT said it's not exactly trivial | 22:01 |
| yofel | I'll agree that this system is designed for apport's auto-retracer, not for human beings | 22:01 |
| mikhas | so, find someone to fix taglib packaging to create a *--dbg package? | 22:02 |
| Riddell | I think that's what Mamarok just asked for | 22:03 |
| mikhas | yes | 22:03 |
| Riddell | but is -dbgsym really so hard? it's just running a couple of copy and paste commands | 22:04 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: maybe not for us, but I talk about plain users | 22:04 |
| mikhas | I just dont think that being cynical when asking for others to do something for you helps. | 22:04 |
| Mamarok | mikhas: and you are talking to whom? | 22:05 |
| yofel | hm... | 22:05 |
| yofel | Riddell: how about adding a shell scrip for that to kubuntu-debug-installer and have it run it when it's not enabled? (finding that out would be the hard part I guess) | 22:06 |
| yofel | stupid t buton | 22:06 |
| Riddell | I don't understand why it isn't enabled by default | 22:07 |
| yofel | "people should use apport" | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | huh | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | I don't suppose we can somehow ship with that repo added | 22:10 |
| yofel | hm, wait | 22:11 |
| yofel | can add-apt-repository prevent adding the same repo twice? | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | I think so | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | ah nope | 22:13 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: is there some qapt method to check whether a specific repository is enabled on a system? | 22:13 |
| yofel | apt should know the list of active repositories from the cache... | 22:14 |
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| yofel | shadeslayer: huh, since when is steam for linux public o.O? | 22:18 |
| shadeslayer | a long long time | 22:18 |
| yofel | I meant public as in visible on the default install page | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | default install page? | 22:19 |
| yofel | http://store.steampowered.com/about/ | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | neato | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | they're pushing towards a Linux console | 22:21 |
| shadeslayer | probably that's why | 22:21 |
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