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apwmaq/b smb10:36
* cking grabs a coffee10:52
skynixhi , can someone tell me the timing for F2FS file system in the kernel comes in?11:27
skynixonly from curiosity11:27
infinityskynix: Looks like it only made it into mainline just now, for 3.811:32
infinityapw: Does the upcoming 3.8 turn enable building the shiny new f2fs?11:32
infinitys/turn //11:32
skynixinfinity: which were very good when it is incorporated in 3.8. thanks for the info11:35
ppisatiinfinity: if it's buildable as a module, yes, it'll probably be there11:37
infinityppisati: I would hope it is.  I can't imagine Ted or Linux accepting a filesystem that couldn't be.11:38
infinitys/Linux/Linus/11:39
infinityIt's obviously bed time for me.11:39
ppisatiinfinity: of course, but could have $bad dependencies11:39
ppisatiinfinity: anyhow, we usually build as far as we can so, i bet it'll be in R11:40
zequence-wapw: I'm having trouble updating. All seems to go fine, but when I check the git log, no ABI bumb commit11:47
zequence-wAnd I'm having trouble pushing11:47
skynixthx bye11:47
apwinfinity, should do indeed, i seem to remember it is there11:49
apwzequence-w, is there an abi bump in the original branch?  if not you won't need one11:51
apwzequence-w, the scripting copies the base abi across, which can mean it is not needed if the fix on master was not a bump11:51
infinityThe fix in master was indeed not an ABI bump.11:52
zequence-wapw: I see. Well, then perhaps my pushing problem was unrelated. Will try to push then11:53
apwyou will have to force the push as it is a rebase 11:53
apwinfinity, thanks11:54
apwinfinity, debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:CONFIG_F2FS_FS=m11:54
infinityapw: \o/11:55
apwnot that one wants to be using a new filesystem in the first kernel it appears, ever11:55
infinityI must have done something wrong.  This glibc_2.17 passed the testsuite on my first test build.11:55
infinityNo one rebases ~100 patches by hand and gets it right the first try, right...?11:56
ricotzinfinity, ;)11:56
apwcking, you did the samsung fixes right, it prevented samsung_laptop loading on EFI right ?11:58
ckingyep11:58
apwi have a report that the latest image we sent to them machine checks, and shows samsung_laptop loading12:00
apw3.2.0-29.46 would that contain the fix ?12:00
henrixapw: if you're talking about bug #1040557 then it is not not12:01
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1040557 in Ubuntu CD Images "UEFI boot live-usb bricks SAMSUNG 530U3C,np700z5c laptop" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104055712:01
henrixapw: the fix for that bug is still on -proposed ( 3.2.0-36.57)12:01
apwdamn so whoever asked them to test, was somewhat premature, cking you are off the hook12:03
henrixapw: this is the perfect timing for getting that tested, as we're on verification week ;)12:04
apwwell they can only test with a full CD image, due to the nature of the issue12:04
infinityapw: 3.2.0-36.57 and 3.5.0-22.34 are the kernels we'd want tested.12:04
apwand the CD images don't have -proposed in12:05
ckingtesting that fix is problematic w/o the CD image12:05
infinityapw: I can spin proposed images for them.12:05
apwinfinity, yeah they need a -proposed enabled image for them to do that12:05
apwinfinity, if you could do that then excellent, if you feed the details to langasek, he has been front man on this12:05
infinityapw: Today's precise dailies should have the latest lts-quantal on them, BTW.12:06
infinityOr, so the logs claim.12:06
infinityAnyhow, I need a nap before I contemplate doing such things.12:07
infinityapw: (PS: fix my MESH bug)12:09
apwsigh :)12:14
zequence-wapw: Ah, thanks. 12:19
apwrtg, hey ... your -rc3 rebase seems to be lacking an updateconfigs; do you have it or should i push what i have12:23
rtgapw, still working on it12:24
apwrtg, ok12:25
rtgapw, slammed HEAD, repull12:26
apwrtg matches what i had, great12:27
* ppisati goes out for lunch12:27
rtgapw, got distracted reading the maintenance manual for my laptop. got to replace a fan12:27
apwrtg, heh :)  i have shied away from taking my laptops appart more than necessary to change disks12:30
rtgapw, well, you know how I am with my 17" display. Can't live without it :)12:30
apwrtg, oh _that_ machine, i am supprised it only needs a fan!12:31
rtgapw, its a refurb, but the fan has always been a little noisy. now its getting intolerable. I'm gonna savage the old one for parts.12:32
rtgapw, do you see that pitti rehosted ddeb.ubuntu.com ?12:37
apwrtg, ahh no, whats changed12:37
rtgbig ass drive methinks12:37
apwi thought they were going into the main pool12:38
rtghttp://ddebs.ubuntu.com now moved to a new host which has plenty of space, so we won't run into lost ddebs due to "out of space" conditions anytime soon \o/. I completed the migration now and rescued the last 5 days of ddebs from the buildds.12:39
rtgfrom his g+ posting on Jan 812:39
apwyeah, and its still separate from teh archive ...12:41
xnoxrtg: are there any stats on how quick/slow it's growing in raring?13:10
xnoxwe switched ddebs to xz.13:10
rtgxnox, haven't the faintest idea13:14
rtgapw, as soon as the armhf build is done I'm gonna upload Ubuntu-3.8.0-0.1. I think all the DKMS packages are in place.13:51
BenCrtg: I've rebased on master-next and done a test build/boot on powerpc13:56
BenCSo I'll have that up shortly after you tag13:56
rtgBenC, I've pushed the tag 'cause it looks like the armhf build is gonna complete OK. I'll likely upload within the hour.14:07
BenCrtg: thanks…is abi=0 proper for starting? I assumed it was going to be abi=1?14:13
rtgBenC, what is proper about an ABI ? It merely needs to be unique with the version number.14:14
BenCI just didn't know the build would accept 0 as a real abi, since it used 0 internally14:14
BenCNever seen it used before :)14:14
rtgBenC, I think the only magic ABI-UPLOAD sequence is 0-014:15
BenCWorks for me…just wanted to make sure before I do the same in the ppc14:16
apwrtg, sorry been offline with wl hell, i don't think the WL update works, on 3.8 or 3.714:18
rtgapw, um, what is wl ? Broadcom ?14:18
apwtseliot, i just installed a 3.8 kernel with your updated wl, and it seems to panic with 3.7 and 3.814:19
apwtseliot, [   27.716022] EIP is at wl_cfg80211_scan+0x2da/0x340 [wl]14:19
tseliotapw: panic???14:19
apwrtg, yeah brcm14:19
apwtseliot, yeah14:20
tseliotapw: what version of broadcom are you using and which one were you using before?14:20
apw6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu4 is what i just updated to14:20
apwbefore that it wouldn't build with 3.8, so i assume a week or so sold14:21
tseliotapw: I'm trying to understand if it's my patch that causes that or the new upstream release14:24
apwtseliot, my main worry is it blammos with 3.7 as well, looked the same though it tended to break things bad14:24
rtgtseliot, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~rtg/Ubuntu-3.8.0-0.1/14:25
tseliotapw: can you try this one, please? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/5.100.82.112+bdcom-0ubuntu3 (with kernel 3.7)14:25
apwtseliot, working on it14:27
tseliotapw: my patch shouldn't really affect 3.7 since it uses #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(3, 8, 0)14:27
tseliotetc.14:27
tseliotthanks14:27
apwtseliot, yeah ...14:27
zequence-wapw: precise and quantal lowlatencies are ready to be pulled14:28
apwzequence-w, thanks14:28
rtgapw, maybe I'll go tear my laptop apart whilst you dick around with wl. no use breaking all of those Broadcom users.14:28
apwrtg ack14:31
zequence-wapw: I had forgotten to push the tag. It's up now14:35
apwtseliot, 5.100.82.112+bdcom-0ubuntu3 seems to work on 3.8 just fine14:38
tseliotapw: sorry, I meant this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu214:40
tseliotif 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu2 works but 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu3 doesn't, then it's my fault14:41
apwtseliot, ok working on it, sadly my test box is this one14:44
tseliotapw: that's still better than what I have - nothing ;)14:44
* smb sneaks out for an errand14:55
apwtseliot, 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu2 is no compile on 3.8 and same blammo on 3.715:00
apwtseliot, so that means it is the upstream update ?15:01
tseliotapw: so it's a problem in the blob, not in my patch. The update was requested by hwe15:01
tseliotapw: please file a bug report about that15:02
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stgrabercking: ping15:22
ckingstgraber, pong15:22
stgrabercking: you have an x230 right? did you notice any brightness control problem starting with the 3.7 kernel?15:22
cking stgraber, I've not noticed any15:23
stgrabercking: weird. I've been staying on 3.5 for a while for various reasons, including what I just reported as bug 109821615:24
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1098216 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression in brightness control on Lenovo Thinkpad x230" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109821615:24
stgraberI'm now going through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight and adding some information to the bug15:24
ckinglemme see if I can reproduce15:24
stgraberone detail that may be relevant is that I'm using mine with UEFI and without BIOS compatibility15:24
ckingah, I'm not using UEFI on mine15:25
stgraberit also appears that some tools use acpi_video0 and some others intel_backlight. The ones using intel_backlight (gnome-control-center) are still fine, those using acpi_video0 (gnome-settings-daemon + the hotkeys) can't change brightness anymore.15:26
Sarvattstgraber: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5123115:27
ubot2`bugzilla.kernel.org bug 51231 in Power-Video "Backlight keys doesn't work on ThinkPad t430s" [Normal,Needinfo]15:27
ckingstgraber, works OK for me on 3.8-rc215:29
stgraberSarvatt: definitely looks like it15:30
stgrabercking: based on the kernel.org bug report above, my guess is that it only happens on UEFI-only systems15:30
Sarvattcking probably hasnt updated his bios in ages? :P15:30
stgraberI'm using mine to test secureboot, so it's the latest firmware from Lenovo with UEFI+SB enabled (which forces BIOS compatibility off)15:31
* cking steering clear of UEFI on his own kit15:31
sforsheestgraber, the firmware is obviously changing something. acpi_video0 only gives you 15 levels with 3.5 and 100 with 3.7.15:34
sforsheestgraber, how about an apport-collect to attach the acpi tables?15:34
stgrabersforshee: apport isn't terribly happy that I'm running a pre-release of the 3.8 kernel, but I'm now pushing everything that's listed on the wiki, including the acpi tables15:37
stgrabersforshee: based on the workarounds on bugzilla, my guess is that the firmware does some version-specific tricks for Windows (as usual) and the kernel is now sending something slightly different, leading to different tables (explaining why acpi_osi="!Windows 2012" apparently fixes it)15:38
sforsheestgraber, yep, that's what it sounds like. The relevant code should be in the DSDT15:39
stgrabersforshee: bug updated with the tables15:39
sforsheeI wonder if Windows has some special requirements for the acpi backlight in win815:39
sforsheestgraber, thanks15:39
ckingsforshee, anything weird like that is expected15:40
sforsheeexpect the unexpected ;-)15:40
stgrabernow to poke hallyn about my next >= 3.7 kernel bug (/me decided today was "let's make this laptop work with a recent kernel day") ;)15:41
apwtseliot, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/109822515:41
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1098225 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "[raring] bcmwl triggers panics with 3.7 and 3.8 kernels" [Undecided,New]15:41
tseliotapw: thanks!15:42
rtgapw, shall I hold off on uploading just yet ?15:42
tseliotapw: also, please make sure to include your card model15:42
sforsheeyipee, If (\WIN8) conditions in the backlight code15:44
apwtseliot, copied out of the lspci into the subject etc15:45
tseliotapw: thanks15:45
ckingstgraber, your  x230 DSDT checks for Windows 2012, mine doesn't.15:46
apwrtg, hard one, for me i am using brcmsmac, but it is not 1) default or 2) covers all the versions15:46
* cking did buy his x230 the week it first came out, so it has early release firmware15:46
stgrabercking: you're probably on the old non-win8 firmware15:46
ckingyep15:46
apwlucky cking 15:47
jwisforshee: makes sense, 3.7 is the first kernel that supports ACPI_OSI_WIN_815:47
stgrabercking: I bought mine a week or so after you bought yours but as I needed to do SB testing, I upgraded to the SB/win8 enabled firmware15:47
apwrtg, i'd say give tseliot till EOW and decide then15:47
rtgk15:47
sforsheecking, stgraber: _BCM seems to do nothing if you don't say you're either Win7 or Vista15:47
sforsheehmm, maybe. There are two sets of acpi backlight interfaces15:48
sforsheewonder which one is being used15:48
sforsheestgraber, what does 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/device/firmware_node/path' output on that machine?15:50
stgraber\_SB_.PCI0.VID_15:52
hallynstgraber: i'm actually not remember that bug right now.15:52
stgraberhallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1412975/15:53
hallynstgraber: is it filed somewhere, or can you describe?15:53
hallynk15:53
* hallyn is happy to walk away from *($&%(*& cifs changes messing with userns patchset15:53
stgraberhallyn: run that code and you get a stuck loop entry every time you call it. Only way to free it is to reboot15:53
hallynoh. right15:54
stgraberhallyn: first spotted on 3.7 and still there with rtg's 3.8 kernel, so apparently I'm the only one doing that kind of weird things with loop devices as nobody else seem to have noticed :)15:54
hallynstgraber: now you don't get it without overlayfs, is that right?15:55
ckingsforshee, so my older firmware handles _BCM the same, but my _BCL does not have a Win8 special case 15:56
sforsheecking, stgraber's is the same15:56
sforsheeI can't tell yet why it doesn't work15:56
stgraberhallyn: I think that's right, let me see if I can easily try without it (ro bind-mount of / sohuld do it)15:57
stgrabersforshee: oh, and something I just noticed. acpi_video0 appears to start working after I change the brightness in intel_backlight, but only in a limited range (actual_brightness shows 20 as being the minimum and 70 as being the maximum)16:00
hallynGAH - 2auth needed to d/l as text again 16:01
sforsheestgraber, I suspect that there are only specific backlight levels that will affect any change16:01
hallynall right lemme play in a kvmbox.  16:01
stgraberhallyn: a quick try with bind-mounting / ro into the test directory (instead of overlayfs) doesn't show the bug, though to be fair, that means that lxc won't actually touch the loop device, so it may take a completely different path and avoid the whole issue16:02
hallynstgraber: so i'm having my own new raring issue, attaching a tap device to virbr0 requires killing and restarting dnsmasq every time, else tap doesn't get an address.  <weird>16:03
stgraberhallyn: the fact that everything unmounts cleanly and that nothing is reported to use the loop device is also very strange, as it's not what you'd expect if something was indeed keeping some kind of reference16:03
sforsheestgraber, the code tries to find the level being written in a smaller list of values (which is the 16 levels you get with !Windows2012). If it doesn't find the value in the list it does nothing.16:05
sforsheestgraber, I'll give you a list of values that ought to work, just a second16:05
hallynstgraber: yeah, i'll look clsely at the mountinfos, but...  it seems some inode may just be sticking around that's pinning the overlayfs...  or something16:05
sforsheestgraber, 5 10 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 80 90 10016:07
sforsheeI think any of those value written to acpi_video0 ought to change the brightness16:07
stgrabersforshee: yep, matches what I just got with trial and error :)16:07
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stgrabersforshee: setting anything else will change the value of brightness but not actual_brightness (and obviously not do any actual change)16:08
sforsheestupid. Why report a bunch of brightness values that aren't supported?16:08
sforsheestgraber, I'm not really sure what to do about this. It's just a case of stupid firmware afaict.16:09
sforsheehttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj128256.aspx16:11
sforshee"All Windows 8 systems are required to report 101 brightness levels to Windows"16:11
sforsheeso it's a dumb way of meeting the requirements of Win8 I guess16:11
stgraberhehe, yeah, reportin 101 brightness levels, 90% of which don't actually do anything and aren't even rounded to the closest valid value16:12
sforsheeI bet lenovo supplies a driver which does the rounding or something like that16:13
stgraberprobably16:13
hallynstgraber: have you pinged apw on this issue?  16:15
hallyngiven overlayfs is his baby...16:16
stgraberhallyn: yep, he was around when we last talked about it here. I can't remember it ringing any particular bell though :)16:16
hallynor have you tried using aufs in place of overlayfs16:16
hallynok, i'll play - ttyl16:16
stgraberhallyn: ah yeah, testing with aufs may be useful to confirm it's indeed limited to overlayfs16:17
stgrabersforshee: are there still ACPI quirk tables in the kernel to workaround that kind of specific stupidity? (as getting a fixed firmware pushed to all those machines is fairly unlikely...)16:17
sforsheestgraber, do you mean quirking it to report as an older version of Windows? I'm not sure.16:18
apwor roudning the values presented to those listed16:19
sforsheeapw, I'm pretty sure there's no quirk like that16:20
stgraberright, either way, that firmware appears to be quite common on Lenovo Ivy Bridge machines and we'll probably see other manufacturer implementing that requirement in a similarly stupid way...16:20
sforsheethe problem with the quirk apw suggest is that each machine might have it's own unique set of valid backlight levels16:21
apwsforshee, and a thingy to list them right ?16:21
sforsheethat would get to be pretty onerous to maintain, methinks16:21
sforsheeapw, to list the valid ones?16:21
apwright16:22
sforsheegetting that list is equally likely to be a firmware-specific implementation16:22
sforsheethe standard interface to get the list is returning crap16:22
sforsheebut it has a separate internal list of valid values16:22
sforsheewhat that list is named isn't likely to be common across different vendors, maybe even not for a single vendor16:23
stgraberhallyn: confirmed to be overlayfs specific, same code using aufs doesn't trigger the bug16:24
hallynstgraber: interesting as i saw nothing really in changelog to account for that.  i'll peruse the diff when ig et back - biab16:25
sforsheestgraber, apw: there is a way to quirk it for the equivalent of acpi_osi="!Windows 2012". Not sure what other negative impacts there might be though.16:27
apwbloody windows16:28
apwi wish they would just go bust16:28
apwand a pox on lenovo for their choice of bios vendors16:28
apwand two on dell for the choice of wireless vendors16:30
sforsheeapw, heh16:30
sforsheebrcmsmac doesn't support your chipset?16:31
apwsforshee, it does indeed a bit, but that doesn't stop wl asking to install, and indeed being installed already16:32
apwsforshee, and it it not reliable either16:32
apwa twice daily dose of rmmod modprobe to keep it working16:32
apwnot that wl is great either16:33
apwbut unless we make the decision to switch people, and implement it, etc ...16:33
sforsheehave you tried 3.8? I made some improvements to brcmsmac.16:33
apwsforshee, just switching to it now, so i'll know in a day or two16:34
apwthe worry is knowing which other chipsets don't work16:34
apwwe know mine doesn't but ...16:34
sforsheeapw, cool, let me know. I've been making more changes to brcmsmac lately than Broadcom has been, so I might be able to help.16:35
apwsforshee, :) 16:36
davmor2hey guys I have this issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n27V7TsOqs on my lenovo y580 is there anything I can do to help track the cause?16:44
argesdavmor2: best way to track issues like this is to file a bug16:46
argesdavmor2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs should help explain the process16:46
melkorMy sounds stop working sometimes, and I was curious if this could be a kernel issue? I am using the 3.7 mainline kernel (which is awesome except for this sound issue).16:58
melkorActually I'm using the 3.7.116:58
stgrabersforshee: I'm adding the kernel cmdline option to workaround that bug for now. Let me know if you need anything else and I'll reboot without it.17:06
sforsheestgraber, ack17:07
hertonhggdh, you don't need to test current ti-omap4 kernels for Precise and Quantal, they need a respin as the master kernels, you can leave it for now (bugs 1095810 and 1095810)17:08
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1095810 in Kernel SRU Workflow verification-testing "linux-ti-omap4: 3.5.0-217.24 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109581017:08
hertonI meant bugs 1095797 and 109581017:09
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1095797 in Kernel SRU Workflow verification-testing "linux-ti-omap4: 3.2.0-1424.31 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109579717:09
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1095810 in Kernel SRU Workflow verification-testing "linux-ti-omap4: 3.5.0-217.24 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109581017:09
hggdhherton: good to know, I thought they had already been respinned17:12
hertonhggdh, not yet, the tracking bugs for the respins are 1097912 and 1097595, I'll close the old ones as duplicates.17:14
* rtg successfully operates on his laptop fan17:18
hallynstgraber: well i do think there's a clue in the ext4-dio-unwrit process somewhere17:23
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apwrtg, ogasawara, ok the brcm issue is fixed once we have ubuntu5 in the archive17:32
ogasawarartg: did you already have an upload prepped?  if not, I can get it ready.17:33
sforsheestgraber, keep an eye out for problems when running with the cmdline quirk. There are a number of places in the acpi tables where behavior depends on whether or not the OS reports itself as Win8. If nothing is broken though then a quirk to prevent claiming to be Win8 may be our best bet.17:35
stgrabersforshee: well, I've been running a 3.5 kernel on that machine for the past 4 months without any problem, which I believe is pretty much identical to booting with that cmdline change17:36
sforsheestgraber, okay. I'm going to wait a day or two to give the assignee on the upstream bug report a chance to respond, and if he doesn't I'll see what reaction there is to adding a quirk.17:38
stgrabersforshee: ok, thanks17:39
rtgogasawara, everything is pushed and ready to go.17:39
rtgjust waiting on wl to get sorted.17:40
rtgapw, so its good to go ?17:41
apwtseliot says everything is good if bcm is good, and the last minute fix there in u5 fixes it for me17:42
rtgapw, uploading as we chat...17:42
tseliot\o/17:43
apwrtg, fingers crossed17:43
rtgogasawara, suppose we outta crack a raring LBM one of these days ?17:47
ogasawarartg: oh probably.  do we have anything to shove in it?17:47
rtgogasawara, not that I know of.17:48
ogasawarartg: I can throw a stub package together17:48
rtgogasawara, we prolly have time yet, but it gets to be a PITA after release17:48
ogasawarartg: indeed and I always seem to forget until the last minute17:48
* ogasawara adds herself a work item reminder17:48
rtgogasawara, so feel free then.17:49
ogasawarartg: ack17:49
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hallynstgraber: i wonder if the overlay bug is an opportunity to aks for better introspection of netns's...  though i'm not sur ewhat it would look like18:10
* jsalisbury watches his Internet connection crawl18:13
melkorWhat is going on with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/60623818:21
ubot2`Launchpad bug 606238 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "synaptic touchpad not recognized on dell latitude e6510 and others" [Low,In progress]18:21
ppisatianyne having issue with msmtp and TLS?18:27
ppisatimsmtp: TLS certificate verification failed: the certificate hasn't got a known issuer18:27
ppisatiok, they issued a new cert18:32
* ppisati disappear for a bit18:33
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gQuigsthese instruction don't seem to work very well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection#Commmit_bisecting_upstream_kernel_versions19:26
gQuigsthe best upstream building instructions I've found on the wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild19:27
gQuigsI was wondering if I could remove the build instructions using mainline-build-one, from KernelBisection and replace it with a link to GitKernelBuild (and then the actual bisect instructions are fine)19:27
rtgjsalisbury, ^^19:28
jsalisburyrtg, ack19:28
jsalisburygQuigs, that should be ok.  Or maybe add GitKernelBuild as an alternative to mainling-build-one in the document?19:29
gQuigsjsalisbury: I'm trying to simplify the instructions while I am at it.... 19:33
gQuigswhat are the benefits of keeping people using mainline-build-one?19:33
jsalisburygQuigs, Some folks may find it easier or may have been using it for a while.  It's good to have multiple options in case one doesn't work.19:35
gQuigswould mainline-build-one the recommended way of building it?19:36
dlynesIs this an appropriate channel to ask about udev regex?19:38
jsalisburygQuigs, it's what I've reccomended in the past and I use.  However, I guess it's up what someone finds easiest.  Using mainline-one-build requires some pre-reqs to be setup, so it's more time consuming up front, but easier for multiple builds.  Whereas GitKernelBuild might be easier for someone that only needs to do a build one time.19:39
gQuigsjsalisbury: my only problem is you cna'19:40
gQuigscan't just follow the instructions on that page... they don't work as is -  one example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/209511/how-to-bisect-upstream-quntal-kernel-on-precise19:41
jsalisburygQuigs, That failure looks like a chroot was not setup.  That's one of the pre-reqs required for mainline-build-one.  There is a set of scripts in kteam-tools/chroot-setup that do that.  Maybe the wiki page needs updating with some info on the kteam-tools scripts. 19:45
jsalisburygQuigs, so for now, maybe it's best to do as you suggest and reccomend GitKernelBuild for now, until mainline-build-one can be better documented.19:46
gQuigsok will do, I will leave the current mainline-build at the end as an alternative - noting for people building a lot19:47
gQuigsthanks jsalisbury19:48
jsalisburygQuigs, thanks.  I've made a note to update the documentation for mainline-build-one.19:48
rtgapw, ogasawara, I'm fixing a build failure with the 3.8 upload. I added a dependency on libaudit-dev in order to build perf, but libaudit-dev is a universe package. doh!19:58
ogasawarartg: oops, ack19:58
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hallynstgraber: the overlayfs thing has nothing to do with namesapces - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518339/ reproduces22:25
hallynit simply appears to be a umount_tree() bug in overlayfs.  but i can't figure out why22:25
hallynstgraber: and finally, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518435/22:42
hallynproves that it's doing 'mount' from inside a chroot (or pivot_root) that does it.  If I do the mounts without doing them under chroot, it doesn't do it.  under chroot, it does22:42
stgraberhallyn: fun, so not even related to namespaces at all, interesting...22:42
hallynbaffling22:43
stgraberhallyn: and I'm assuming any kind of mount does that, not only devpts?22:43
hallynso why would current->fs-.root have anything to do with it22:43
hallynyeah22:43
hallynwell, i've tried with proc, lemme try tmpfs22:43
hallynyup22:43
mrbojangles3hello all, I am having some problems packaging a kernel module using debhelper v 8. right now the folder debian/*modules.in* is not getting created and causing the build to fail22:52
mrbojangles3this is a storage driver, so if I understand correctly it needs to be built as a udeb?22:53
mrbojangles3is this even the right place to ask about this? or should I head over to debian installer?22:53
JEEBsvjust a random question regarding the 3.8rcs from the mainline folder -- is the seeming disabling/removal of ath5k drivers (and some other ath stuff) intended?23:03
hallynstgraber: guess i should file a kernel bug (using http://people.canonical.com/~serge/stgraber.script.5), unless you've done it?23:16
hallynmaybe smb or apw will have a good idea what's going on 23:16
stgraberhallyn: I haven't so it's probably a good plan. You can drop all that lxc config from the script though23:22
mrbojangles3maybe I can try this from a different angle, does anyone know how a file matching *modules.in* would be created? is that through the normal build process ?23:50
mrbojangles3if I am trying to compile a module against the running kernel version?23:50

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