| bryce | RAOF, got it, thanks. | 00:04 |
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| tjaalton | bryce: I'm thinking about defaulting to sna now, ickle recommended it too | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | so robert ancell uploaded weston 1.0.3 already.. | 07:54 |
| tjaalton | double work | 07:54 |
| bryce | tjaalton, do we have sna on in edgers? | 08:35 |
| tjaalton | bryce: dunno | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | but people have tested it with good results | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | doesn't look like it's enabled there | 08:40 |
| bryce | one lesson I learned with exa and uxa is that before we switch to a new tech you only hear from people for whom the tech works great. Those who have problems with it will just ignore it... | 08:42 |
| tjaalton | sure | 08:43 |
| bryce | tjaalton, I suppose we could switch it on for a week and evaluate the fallback via bug reports | 08:43 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 08:43 |
| bryce | (assuming apport is still catching crashes and freezes for us) | 08:43 |
| tjaalton | it's been rather quiet :) | 08:43 |
| bryce | suspiciously | 08:43 |
| tjaalton | 10 bugs on raring.. | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | against our packages | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | which is like 1/4 of the bugs against quantal at this point | 08:44 |
| bryce | yeah. of course we haven't updated many packages... | 08:44 |
| bryce | anyway, I have raring systems at hand, I'll do some sleuthing tomorrow and make sure it's still working. | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | I've tried it on sandybridge, heard good results on i915 & i945 | 08:45 |
| bryce | for sna... even if we go ahead and do a 1 week eval, I think I'd still like to see it guinea pigged on edgers for a bit, maybe even a call for testing | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | edgers pulls all kinds of crap | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | rather do it on another ppa | 08:46 |
| bryce | yeah that'd be fine. | 08:47 |
| bryce | or even just have folks manually switch it on in their xorg.conf? | 08:48 |
| bryce | "Copy this file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If that leads to any graphics problems, delete the file and let us know." | 08:48 |
| bryce | give it a week... if we hear nothing serious then flip it on for everyone for a week | 08:49 |
| tjaalton | alright | 08:50 |
| tjaalton | huh, reading the forums really makes you sad :) | 08:52 |
| bryce | phoronix? | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | ubuntuforums this time | 08:56 |
| bryce | sheesh: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI3MTI | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | that was amusing to read, again | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: hey, wanted to ask if nvidia-current will go away and instead just use -NNN in the future? | 09:23 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: yes, it's exactly as you say | 09:27 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: right, what I had suspected :) | 09:27 |
| tseliot | I'll work on transitional packages today | 09:27 |
| tjaalton | pinged #ubuntu-release about the -173 update to quantal, noticed it's been on the queue since nov 22nd :/ | 09:27 |
| tseliot | ah, thanks | 09:28 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: also, during your holidays I uploaded the nvidia-96 update, it's now verification-done so should hit precise soon | 09:35 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: ah, good, I'll sync my git repository then | 09:36 |
| tjaalton | hope it's the last upload ;) | 09:37 |
| tseliot | hehe, right | 09:37 |
| tjaalton | will the nvidia-experimental-* packages stay? | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | guess they're obsoleted by this change | 09:43 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: they should be there only in precise | 09:48 |
| tjaalton | right | 09:48 |
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| mlankhorst | bryce: oh my ;P | 11:14 |
| mlankhorst | my personal favorite is the tf2 post currently, he didn't even try and copied that verbatim | 11:15 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: June 29th, 2012: SNA is now on by default on intel. | 14:25 |
| Sarvatt | its been on by default for a long time now and the only complaints since have been when I accidentally made UXA the default one upload :P | 14:26 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: --enable-sna is not the same as --with-default-accel=sna | 14:28 |
| tjaalton | oh you mean edgers? | 14:28 |
| tjaalton | the changelog lies about it then | 14:28 |
| Sarvatt | override_dh_auto_configure: | 14:28 |
| Sarvatt | dh_auto_configure -- --enable-sna --enable-uxa --with-default-accel=sna --with-builderstring="$(SOURCE_NAME) $(SOURCE_VERSION) ($(BUILDER))" | 14:28 |
| tjaalton | basically doesn't mention that | 14:28 |
| tjaalton | and I trusted the changelog, boo :) | 14:29 |
| Sarvatt | oh the hook got screwed up | 14:29 |
| tjaalton | anyway, I'll create a wikipage for people to report success on | 14:29 |
| Sarvatt | changelog part, i updated the man page last upload and screwed it up :) | 14:29 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 14:29 |
| tjaalton | 16:21 < cjwatson> This will be painful | 14:29 |
| tjaalton | 16:22 < cjwatson> hate you all | 14:30 |
| tjaalton | :) | 14:30 |
| tjaalton | colin doesn't like the pain the renamed stack causes on the installer | 14:30 |
| mlankhorst | wait a minute | 14:30 |
| tjaalton | relax | 14:30 |
| Sarvatt | everyone hates the renamed stack, not like we had a choice :) | 14:31 |
| tjaalton | right | 14:31 |
| mlankhorst | true | 14:39 |
| mlankhorst | guess I'll file a bug for the mesa -dev issue and get it sru'd | 14:39 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 14:42 |
| mlankhorst | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1098215 ? | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1098215 in mesa (Ubuntu Precise) "installing libqt4-opengl-dev uninstalls renamed stack" [Critical,In progress] | 15:15 |
| mlankhorst | will do some more testing before I upload the fix | 15:15 |
| tjaalton | yep, looks good | 15:17 |
| tjaalton | don't forget to subscribe ubuntu-sru once done uploading | 15:17 |
| mlankhorst | hm I think I'll leave out libgbm-dev, I think the api on that one might change and nothing rdepends on it anyway | 15:19 |
| tjaalton | ok | 15:20 |
| tjaalton | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA | 16:08 |
| tjaalton | comments welcome | 16:08 |
| tjaalton | or edits :) | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | dinner -> | 16:09 |
| mlankhorst | sounds good | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | updated the wiki-page again | 16:47 |
| tjaalton | I'd like to send the email to ubuntu-devel@ today | 16:50 |
| tjaalton | then again, the wiki can be edited later :) | 16:51 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: mind proofreading the page? | 16:56 |
| tjaalton | actually, I'll wait and let bryce comment on it too | 16:57 |
| tjaalton | bryce: so I wrote the wiki page, and email ready to be sent | 16:58 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: sure thing, one sec, testing this bcmwl package out | 17:00 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: looks good to me, is SNA backend needed? | 17:21 |
| Sarvatt | in the results column | 17:21 |
| Sarvatt | I guess thats one way to make sure people verify they are actually using SNA | 17:22 |
| tjaalton | yeah :) | 17:23 |
| bjsnider | wouldn't xorg.0.log say so? | 17:24 |
| tjaalton | although it comes from the same output, so.. | 17:24 |
| tjaalton | that's where it's from | 17:24 |
| tjaalton | dropped the backend bit | 17:27 |
| bryce | tjaalton, reading | 18:26 |
| bryce | tjaalton, looks good! I made a few minor copy edits. Also, I put the xorg.conf as an actual attached file. | 18:46 |
| bryce | I suspect people are going to be more comfortable copying an entire file into place, than with editing xorg.conf's. And most Intel users won't have a file to conflict. | 18:46 |
| tjaalton | bryce: ah, good point. and thanks! | 18:47 |
| tjaalton | the first version just cat'd the file in place, but that seemed a bit risky :) | 18:47 |
| bryce | right, now to retest on my own hw. :-) | 18:47 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: fix your lp id there :) | 18:47 |
| bryce | tjaalton, ah, I assumed those were yours! sorry | 18:48 |
| tjaalton | oh, hehe | 18:48 |
| tjaalton | yeah I'll test it on X61 too once I'm done with vag-com & XP.. | 18:50 |
| tjaalton | (i965GM) | 18:51 |
| tjaalton | bryce: i'm reformatting it a bit, done editing? | 18:59 |
| bryce | yep, go for it | 19:00 |
| tjaalton | added example output for uname/lspci | 19:04 |
| tjaalton | ok, I'll send the email and post to the forum | 19:05 |
| bryce | tjaalton, awesome | 19:05 |
| tjaalton | just happened to read this earlier too :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103414 | 19:07 |
| tjaalton | there | 19:09 |
| tjaalton | let's see how long until it's on phoronix frontpage | 19:10 |
| bryce | heh | 19:10 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: 'lspci -nn -s 0:2.0' | 19:10 |
| jcristau | (all intel hw has the gfx at that slot afaik) | 19:10 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: ahh.. | 19:11 |
| jcristau | saves some grepping | 19:11 |
| tjaalton | and the chance of running it on a hybrid laptop | 19:11 |
| tjaalton | didn't know how to best handle such case | 19:11 |
| tjaalton | if it's always on 0:2:0 then that would solve it | 19:12 |
| bryce | tjaalton, there's also xpci, although I can't guarantee it's going to work properly on the newest gfx cards | 19:12 |
| tjaalton | ImportError: No module named taskhelm | 19:13 |
| tjaalton | :) | 19:13 |
| tjaalton | on quantal | 19:13 |
| bryce | tjaalton, yeah, need to fix that. should already work on raring though | 19:13 |
| tjaalton | ok | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | tjaalton: silly question, but could this http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/10/plasma-desktopS17003.png be caused by enabling SNA? | 19:36 |
| * shadeslayer didn't see this earlier | 19:37 | |
| shadeslayer | ( 2 arrows in the taskbar, the one at the bottom is bogus ) | 19:37 |
| tjaalton | shadeslayer: no idea, try without to be sure | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | yeah will do that to be 100% sure | 19:38 |
| tjaalton | raring has a new pixman too | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | no idea what that is | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | I also don't have proper instructions to reproduce the bug, so will get back if I notice it with UXA | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | ah okay | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | can reproduce it in UXA as well | 19:44 |
| tjaalton | ok, check what version of libpixman-1-0 you have | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | 0.26.0-3 | 19:45 |
| tjaalton | not that then | 19:46 |
| tjaalton | same in quantal | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | yep, haven't upgraded in a bit | 19:46 |
| tjaalton | there's a new intel driver too, uploaded earlier this week | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I guess I'll leave it to upgrade tonight | 19:48 |
| tjaalton | added a new first step to the page, upgrade to current raring | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:48 |
| tjaalton | details.. | 19:49 |
| tjaalton | first corruption bug with sna :) | 21:57 |
| * bryce installs chromium | 22:13 | |
| bryce | huh, repro'd | 22:17 |
| tjaalton | what hw? | 22:18 |
| bryce | 2a42, same gfx as echidnaman | 22:19 |
| bryce | Dell Latitude 13 | 22:20 |
| tjaalton | ok, I'll try on snb | 22:21 |
| Sarvatt | not happening on snb or ivb here | 22:22 |
| tjaalton | not here eitehr | 22:23 |
| tjaalton | either | 22:23 |
| tjaalton | shadeslayer: which hw did you have? | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) | 22:24 |
| tjaalton | ah, so it's not the same bug | 22:24 |
| bryce | posted my screenshot @ #1098334 | 22:24 |
| RAOF | To Phoronix's great surprise, sna isn't a flawless beacon of speed and stability? ☺ | 22:24 |
| tjaalton | well, not on every hw incarnation ;) | 22:24 |
| tjaalton | it seems | 22:24 |
| bryce | RAOF, I'm sure after we switch to it, they'll post an article lambasting us | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh | 22:27 |
| bryce | hmm, seems to be peculiar to reddit; other sites don't exhibit the behavior. doesn't seem to affect firefox | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | tjaalton: bug 1098334 has been reproduced by JT | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 22:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1098334 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Font corruption in Chromium tab bar using Intel SNA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098334 | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah he reported it @_@ | 22:27 |
| tjaalton | right :) | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | cannot reproduce on gooogle-chrome btw | 22:28 |
| shadeslayer | the proprietary one | 22:28 |
| shadeslayer | but could easily be because of hw differences | 22:28 |
| tjaalton | ok, so this one is not a critical one then | 22:28 |
| tjaalton | probably happens only on gen4 | 22:29 |
| tjaalton | or the ones using "Broadwater/Crestline" backend | 22:30 |
| bryce | yeah I set it to medium | 22:43 |
| bryce | it's a pretty common chipset, although a tad old | 22:44 |
| jcristau | hey don't call my laptop old. it's just 4 years old. :) | 22:46 |
| tjaalton | ah, gm45 is actually newer than 965 | 22:50 |
| jcristau | yes | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | somehow mixed it with 945 | 22:53 |
| tjaalton | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Extreme_Graphics#Early_graphics | 22:55 |
| mlankhorst | is it just me or is https://launchpad.net/builders private now? | 23:55 |
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