[05:08] <superfly> morning
[05:08] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos Good morning!
[05:08] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:26] <inetpro> good morning
[05:27] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kilos hi
[05:27] <Maaz> inetpro: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:27] <inetpro> hi superfly
[05:27] <superfly> hi inetpro 
[05:28] <superfly> how goes? 
[05:28] <inetpro> hot and there?
[05:30] <superfly> cold and rainy
[05:31] <superfly> it is winter in Cape Town
[05:32] <superfly> there he is...
[05:32] <Kilos> hehe good morning superfly inetpro and others
[05:37]  * Squirm yawns
[05:37] <Squirm> morning
[05:37] <Squirm> another Sunny day in kzn
[05:37] <Kilos> yo Squirm 
[05:50] <Kilos> yo Superhuman all the best for the coming year
[05:50] <Superhuman> Thanks Kilos, to you too!
[05:54] <magespawn> morning all
[05:54] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[05:55] <Kilos> we gonne sweat some today
[06:00] <magespawn> already doing that
[06:01] <inetpro> Superhuman: wb
[06:03] <superfly> heya Superhuman! long time no smell!
[06:03] <superfly> lovely winter's day here in Cape Town
[06:03] <superfly> quite mild, actually
[06:06]  * magespawn thinks seriously about moving to Cape Town, at least for the summer
[06:06] <Superhuman> superfly: I got new deodarant, that's why you don't smell me anymore
[06:07] <Superhuman> hey inetpro
[06:07] <superfly> Superhuman: aahhhh
[06:07] <superfly> Superhuman: how's the family
[06:07] <superfly> (gee, we're all getting growed up here: families!)
[06:07] <Superhuman> doing good, growing by 1 end of Jan.
[06:08] <inetpro> Superhuman: congrats
[06:08] <Superhuman> thanks
[06:08] <inetpro> hope all will go well
[06:08] <superfly> Superhuman: awesomesauce!
[06:08] <Kilos> lol @ the deodorant crack
[06:08] <Superhuman> I'm sure it will. Got a good Doc.
[06:08] <Kilos> must be AXE
[06:09]  * superfly knows an excellent doc, but BOY is he expensive
[06:10] <Superhuman> Ours is old school, VERY carefull, and has lots of experience (ou toppie).
[06:12] <Superhuman> With something like a pregnancy, I'd suggest going with the oldest doc you can find. They've seen everything!
[06:18] <superfly> Yeah... we actually used midwives and were planning a home birth for #1 and a VBAC for #2
[06:19] <superfly> midwives are old school
[06:19] <superfly> hi jrgns
[06:19] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[06:19] <Kilos> VBAC?
[06:20] <superfly> Kilos: Vaginal Birth After Caesarean
[06:20] <Kilos> ouch
[06:20] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg_w 
[06:20] <Kilos> hmm she not happy again
[06:21] <magespawn> got the hi in just in time there Kilos
[06:21] <Kilos> lol
[06:21] <jrgns> morning superfly, Kilos, all
[06:22] <jrgns> interesting conversation to walk into...
[06:22] <Kilos> hehe
[06:23] <Kilos> our topic stretches to the peeps that make this channel and their livelyhoods
[06:27] <superfly> by the way... http://sixpacktech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/comic-15.jpeg 
[06:28] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:38] <magespawn> lol that is if you can find a linux laptop to buy
[06:39] <magespawn> bbl y'all
[06:47] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[07:05] <Kilos> hi hubx 
[07:09] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[07:18] <theblazehen> hi kilos
[07:24] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[07:24] <henkj> hi kilos
[08:16] <barrydk> Good morning all
[08:22] <Squirm> it's still morning?
[08:22] <Squirm> oh right... it is
[08:36] <Kilos> the plot thickens
[08:37] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[08:37] <Kilos> pc just strated rebooting and no ups here
[08:37] <Kilos> started
[08:38] <Kilos> so took it for a blow dry and disabled the overclocked bit
[08:38] <Kilos> will see now
[08:39] <Kilos> also ran touch /forcefsck
[08:39] <Kilos> and put old graphics drive back
[08:39] <Kilos> s/drive/card
[08:52] <henkj> kilos sounds like you're changing too much to determine the cause of the problem
[08:55] <Kilos> yeah henkj but im just replacing what i removed when i was trying to find the prob
[08:56] <henkj> I should probably dust mine again
[08:56] <Kilos> compressed air is the best henkj 
[08:56] <Kilos> blow it clean
[08:57] <henkj> think it's been 6 months since it's last appointment with a blower
[08:58] <Kilos> clouds of dust came out of the cpu fan and heatsink and power supply
[08:59] <henkj> it's scary when there is so much dust in the cpu fan/heatsink
[08:59] <Kilos> yip
[09:01] <Kilos> ian has to use this to be able to support clients
[09:01] <Kilos> hes trying it on kubuntu
[09:02] <Kilos> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/5_0
[09:02] <Kilos> second option
[09:06] <Kilos> hes not sure what to do i think
[09:06] <Kilos> will be here soon
[09:07] <Kilos> lo WOLFEYES 
[09:08] <WOLFEYES> heya Kilos 
[09:08] <WOLFEYES> Good day to everyone
[09:08] <WOLFEYES> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/5_0
[09:09] <WOLFEYES> I have just downloaded the second option in that site
[09:10] <WOLFEYES> now upon trying to open it , it is asking me with which application do I want to open it with, and it opens the box with the filing system, can anyone help please?
[09:11] <WOLFEYES> i am on kde.
[09:12] <Kilos> is it a package WOLFEYES 
[09:13] <WOLFEYES> I don't know what it is, it doesn't have an extension on it
[09:14] <Kilos> how do you know its for linux
[09:15] <Kilos> oh it shows VMware-Player-5.0.1-894247.i386.bundle
[09:16] <Kilos> would be better to have been .deb
[09:16] <Kilos> inetpro, ideas?
[09:20] <WOLFEYES> if you look at the site it has a drop down box, just under the options, "Show details" "Binary Details VMware Player for Linux 32-bit".
[09:21] <Kilos> then see if you can right click extract\
[09:22] <WOLFEYES> nope
[09:22] <Kilos> ai
[09:22] <Kilos> guys are busy, hope you can wait some
[09:23] <Kilos> tell the client patience is a virtue
[09:24] <inetpro> hmm...
[09:24] <inetpro> WAYTTD?
[09:24] <Kilos> ah here the pro
[09:24] <Kilos> he needs that to be able to help a client inetpro 
[09:25] <inetpro> to do what?
[09:25] <Kilos> i have no idea
[09:25] <WOLFEYES> llol
[09:25] <Kilos> they have it installed is all i know
[09:26] <Kilos> WOLFEYES, explaint what you are trying to do
[09:26] <Kilos> explain
[09:26] <inetpro> WOLFEYES: WAYTTD?
[09:26] <WOLFEYES> I am trying to get aquainted with the program inetpro 
[09:27] <inetpro> WOLFEYES: you mean with vmware specifically?
[09:27] <inetpro> or do you need a virtual OS installed on top of your KDE?
[09:27] <WOLFEYES> I know nothing of it and have time and attendance readers at my client and this software is stopping my readers from communicating.
[09:28] <WOLFEYES> yes with vmware
[09:28] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[09:28] <kbmonkey> Hi kilos. 
[09:28] <kbmonkey> You are on everyday lately
[09:29]  * inetpro uses virtualbox to run other OSses in a VM
[09:29] <Kilos> yip 8ta 2+1 rocks
[09:29] <WOLFEYES> Heya kbmonkey 
[09:29] <kbmonkey> I got the same deal :)
[09:29] <kbmonkey> Hi inetpro, wolfeyes
[09:29] <inetpro> wb kbmonkey
[09:29] <kbmonkey> Inetpro, ever used qemu with kvm?
[09:29] <inetpro> kbmonkey: early lunch?
[09:29] <kbmonkey> It flies
[09:30] <inetpro> kbmonkey: yes and no
[09:30] <kbmonkey> No, waiting for the technician to install a line under my desk
[09:30] <inetpro> yes I tried using it but ended up going back to VirtualBox
[09:31]  * inetpro don't need VM machines very often
[09:34] <WOLFEYES> Ok but how do I install this download ?
[09:34] <WOLFEYES> In kde.
[09:35]  * WOLFEYES goes to try other things.
[09:35] <inetpro> WOLFEYES: unfortunately I don't have the time now to go and have a look. Have never done it and have no need for it.
[09:36]  * inetpro prefers to stick to free stuffs in the repositories
[09:37] <inetpro> s/free stuffs/stable, free and supported software/
[09:40] <WOLFEYES> ty inetpro it is in the repo's, but I want to load this as I will use their help later on at the clients site. I just wanted to get the basics before I get to the client and not know a thing.
[09:40] <inetpro> WOLFEYES: what is in the repo's?
[09:41] <inetpro> hmm...
[09:42]  * inetpro finds vmware-manager in the repos
[09:42] <inetpro> interesting!
[09:42] <inetpro> never used it though, but can't be all that difficult
[09:43] <WOLFEYES> it asks me with what application do I want to open it with.....?
[10:03] <Kilos> wb deegee
[10:56] <Kilos> nou work dit warm hier
[11:03] <Kilos> hi Trix[a]r_za 
[12:24] <inetpro> I don't want to be funny but this is not funny
[12:24] <inetpro> this heat is killing us
[12:24] <Kilos> it is very hot inetpro 
[12:25] <Kilos> please dont die
[12:26] <Kilos> will try organise some rain
[12:26] <inetpro> we have an aircon in the office, unfortunately just a temporary one with no proper sealed outlet
[12:26] <Kilos> ai!
[12:27] <inetpro> the air circulating back into the aircon is on 41 degrees celsius at the moment
[12:27] <Kilos> eek
[12:27] <inetpro> on a normal day this is below 30
[12:31] <Kilos> you wanna feel it in the sun
[12:31] <Kilos> but slight breeze from the wsw
[12:33] <mazal> Yeah I think it is safe to say that the worst cold is over now :P
[12:33] <Kilos> rofl
[12:33] <Kilos> cooler on the floor
[12:33] <Squirm> I felt a cold breeze when I walked backed after lunch
[12:33] <Squirm> I see clouds
[12:34] <Squirm> cold front incoming
[12:34] <Squirm> I can never remember who's from where
[12:34] <Squirm> nuvolari: what's the weather like?
[12:34] <Squirm> and Vince-0 I think
[12:34] <Kilos> natal should get rain by tonight if i member right
[12:36] <mazal> I would like to know the actual real feel temperature in the sun at the moment
[12:37] <Kilos> i can go check that
[12:37] <mazal> Hoe toets mens aanvoelingstemparatuur Kilos ?
[12:40] <Squirm> rain in pmb
[12:40]  * Squirm ponders
[12:40] <Squirm> it's going to rain here in a bit methinks
[12:41] <mazal> Squirm, where are you located ?
[12:41] <Kilos> dont think one can put a thermometer in the sun
[12:41] <Kilos> 44°c and climbing
[12:42] <Kilos> mazal, weet nie
[12:42] <Squirm> I bought myself a thermometer today
[12:42] <Squirm> a unit with a wireless outdoor sensor
[12:42] <Kilos> thats nice Squirm 
[12:42] <Kilos> what does it say is the temp
[12:42] <Squirm> I bought it today
[12:43] <Squirm> doesn't mean it's delivered yet :P
[12:43] <Kilos> well set it up man
[12:43] <Squirm> mazal: Mooi River
[12:43] <Kilos> oh
[12:43] <Kilos> aw
[12:43] <Squirm> bidorbu ftw :)
[12:43] <Squirm> bidorbuy
[12:44] <Kilos> methinks global warming sucks
[12:48] <Kilos> magespawn, must be melting there in zululand
[12:49] <drussell> Kilos: you need to trade us some of that sun, it's 13 degrees here, and misty/overcast ;o)
[12:49] <Kilos> drussell, you can have half for nothing. just come fetch
[12:49] <Kilos> hehe
[12:49] <drussell> Kilos: hehe I'm on my way! :oD
[12:50] <Kilos> lol
[12:51]  * Kilos greets Banlam bakuman barrydk bmg505 
[12:52] <Kilos> ohi Wraz you off the page here
[12:52] <mazal> Bye almal
[12:52] <mazal> Lekker aand
[12:53] <Kilos> mazal, 
[12:53] <Kilos> how come you knock off so early
[12:53] <barrydk> Lekke slaap almal
[12:53] <Kilos> nag julle twee
[12:53] <Kilos> in die dag
[12:54] <inetpro> Ok I got a bit of a shock with that but it was just a mistake. The outlet pipe at the back of the aircon was disconnected without anyone noticing.
[12:54] <inetpro> the office temperature is more like 32°C
[12:54] <inetpro> still very hot
[12:54] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to convert a P4 to an airconditioner
[12:54] <Maaz> Kilos: "Refrigeration and Air Conditioning - University of Tulsa" http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~kenneth-weston/chapter8.pdf :: "Air Conditioning A/C Dye ........................................................." http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/catalogs/servicelines/P_AIR_CONDITIONING.PDF :: "Space Exploration P3 and P4 to expand station capabilities ..."
[12:54] <Maaz> http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/spacestation/components/docs/P3-P4.pdf :: "Newegg.…
[12:55] <Kilos> yip inetpro 32°c here by pc too
[12:55] <Kilos> hey Kerbero lewe jy nog?
[12:57]  * inetpro wonders how much heat we all generate with our modern air conditioners
[12:57] <inetpro> is it really worth it?
[13:00] <Kilos> clouds coming slowly inetpro 
[13:00] <Kilos> never mind the aircon
[13:03] <Kilos> yo mon
[13:03] <Kilos> ai monkey
[13:09] <kbmonkey> Ai
[13:09] <kbmonkey> Waiting on windows updates at work
[13:10] <kbmonkey> Can you believe its 220 mb
[13:10] <kbmonkey> And it was up to date yesterday even
[13:10] <kbmonkey> Hahah
[13:11] <Kilos> hehe
[13:15] <Kilos> 7 or 8 kbmonkey ?
[13:15] <Kilos> Symmetria, sup
[13:22] <kbmonkey> 7 kilos. No. That it matters, 7 and 8 are the same
[13:22] <kbmonkey> Essentiall
[13:22] <Kilos> oh one as horrible as the other
[13:22] <Kilos> shame
[13:29] <kbmonkey> Keke. 
[14:11] <Banlam> i don't know when kilos actually greeted me, but heya back :)
[14:12] <Kilos> lol
[14:25]  * Squirm pokes his head in
[14:25] <Squirm> yep
[14:25] <Squirm> it's cooled down a lot
[14:25] <Squirm> windy and overcast
[14:25]  * Squirm puts his fan on full
[14:25] <Banlam> where?
[14:26] <Squirm> Mooi River
[14:27] <Banlam> far away
[14:28] <Squirm> Banlam: where you at?
[14:29] <Banlam> currently PE
[14:58] <superfly> after winter this morning we're back to summer this afternoon
[15:01] <Kilos> still hotashell here
[15:01] <Kilos> clouds blew away
[15:57] <Squirm> it's raining
[15:58] <Kilos> arent you the lucky one
[15:58] <Kilos> we got bright sunshine
[15:58] <Kilos> sigh
[15:58] <Squirm> ok, it rained for 5-10min
[15:58] <Squirm> sun's peaking it's head out though
[15:58] <Kilos> lol
[15:59] <Kilos> you should get lots moe
[15:59] <Kilos> more
[15:59] <Squirm> seems like it's blown past
[15:59] <Squirm> might come back for seconds later though
[16:00] <Kilos> wether man says lots coming to you tonight and next 2 days
[16:00] <Squirm> I heard
[16:01] <Kerbero> Kilos: ja ek lewe darm nog so soortvan
[16:02] <Kilos> eish wats fout seun?
[16:02] <Kerbero> ag, dinge om te doen, plekke om te gaan, al die gewone drama van die alledaagse lewe
[16:02] <Kilos> ai!
[16:02] <Kilos> moed hou
[16:39] <inetpro> wb Cantide
[16:39] <Cantide> ty '-';;
[16:39] <Cantide> a bit of a storm here in Durban
[16:39] <inetpro> oh and nlsthzn
[16:39] <Cantide> i got disconnected -.-v
[16:39] <inetpro> and Vince-0
[16:39] <Kilos> hi guys
[16:39] <inetpro> and hubx
[16:39] <inetpro> and hi to Kilos
[16:39] <inetpro> again
[16:40] <Kilos> you actually make a good greeter
[16:40] <inetpro> haha
[16:41] <inetpro> Kilos: wat eet ons vanaand?
[16:41] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[16:41] <Kilos> soort van n stew met rys
[16:42] <inetpro> lekker
[16:42] <inetpro> en groente?
[16:42] <Kilos> baie groente in die stew
[16:42] <Kilos> 1/2kg 
[16:43] <inetpro> ahh... so dis een van die enkelpot disse?
[16:43] <Kilos> lol ja behalwe vir die rys
[16:43] <inetpro> oja
[16:43] <inetpro> aartappels in die stew?
[16:44] <Kilos> ja
[16:44] <inetpro> ai!
[16:44] <inetpro> nou water my mond behoorlik
[16:44] <Kilos> klein blokkies geskny
[16:45] <Kilos> as dit net lekker wil reen sal ek klomp marog pluk en n bredie maak daarvan
[16:46] <inetpro> marog?
[16:46] <Kilos> mfino
[16:46] <Kilos> wilde spinasie
[16:46] <inetpro> ahh, baie, baie lekker
[16:46]  * inetpro is lief vir mfino
[16:47] <inetpro> wat is dit in ingels?
[16:47] <Kilos> maar als is net stof so sal maar wat vir reen en hoop die skape eet dit nie op nie
[16:47] <Kilos> um
[16:47] <Kilos> jy kan eintlik marog saad koop
[16:47] <inetpro> wow
[16:47] <Kilos> by checkers ek dink
[16:47] <Kilos> ek het dit ook gese
[16:48] <Kilos> daar is n ander ene ook misbredie
[16:48] <inetpro> sjoe
[16:48] <Kilos> daar was hier gewees maar sien dit nie
[16:48]  * inetpro moet gaan en bietjie kry
[16:49] <inetpro> http://earthgarden.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=183&language=en 
[16:49] <Kilos> nee man misbredie nie te koop nie
[16:49] <Kilos> so ver ek weet
[16:49] <inetpro> is dit ^^ dieselle goed?
[16:49] <Kilos> ja
[16:50] <Kilos> jy raak seker ontslae van dit as onkruid
[16:50] <Kilos> my epos addy is te leen
[16:50] <Kilos> die goet grooi wild orals
[16:50] <inetpro> Kilos: ja seker, ek's bang vir snaakse gautengse onkruide
[16:51] <Kilos> lol
[16:51] <inetpro> so as ek die sade kan kry sal ek bly wees en sien hoe dit behoorlik moet lyk
[16:52] <Kilos> hulle se klein blare
[16:52] <Kilos> ons sn is lekker groot al
[16:52] <Kilos> maar dis van donkie jare groei hier
[16:52] <inetpro> ai, ek's nou lekker honger vir die goed
[16:53] <Kilos> daar is in noord natal nor een
[16:53] <inetpro> ons het dit baie g-eet op die plaas
[16:53] <Kilos> groot bree blaar
[16:53] <Kilos> nog nie hier gesien nie
[16:53] <Kilos> mfino
[16:54] <Kilos> of umfino ek vergeet
[16:54] <inetpro> ek ken dit as mfino
[16:54] <Vince-0> haai
[16:54] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[16:54] <inetpro> Vince-0: hi
[16:54] <Kilos> haai is ook lekker om te eet
[16:55] <inetpro> ai!
[16:55] <Vince-0> haai fin soup
[16:55] <Kilos> lekker fillets sonder bene
[16:55] <Kilos> no the fillets are delicious
[16:55] <Kilos> i dont understand the fin bit
[16:55] <Vince-0> I had shark chutney once - 
[16:56] <Kilos> and skate wings just as lekker
[16:56] <Kilos> im a good fisherman
[16:57] <Kilos> what you not gonna eat throw back in again
[16:58] <Kilos> i go eat now
[16:58] <Kilos> wbb
[17:07] <nlsthzn> alo all
[17:16] <Kilos> whats news nlsthzn 
[17:16] <nlsthzn> working my *** off... but that isn't new it seems :/
[17:16] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos 
[17:16] <nlsthzn> ?
[17:17] <Kilos> good ty lad. hows the family?
[17:17] <Kilos> inetpro, misbredie lyk die selfde net blare is groter
[17:18] <nlsthzn> all good thanks, had a good holiday with the little one :)
[17:18] <Kilos> ek sal probeer saad kry as ek kan
[17:18] <Kilos> great
[17:21] <Kilos> even the monkey visits now again nlsthzn 
[17:21] <Kilos> things are looking up
[17:21] <nlsthzn> awersome :)
[17:21] <Kilos> nuvolari, is slacking
[17:22] <Kilos> oh nlsthzn go check my greeter bot in ##kilos
[17:22] <Kilos> bit buggy but works lekker in ibid
[17:22] <nlsthzn> nice
[17:22] <Kilos> the monkey wrote it
[17:24] <nlsthzn> nice
[17:25] <Kilos> then he got a job and didnt have time to debug
[17:26] <nlsthzn> glad he got work :)
[17:26] <Kilos> yeah
[17:26] <Kilos> but they block the internet
[17:26] <Kilos> or irc anyway
[17:26] <Kilos> swines
[17:26] <nlsthzn> sounds about standarf
[17:27] <Kilos> hehe
[18:04] <smile> hi Symmetria :) wb
[18:05] <Kilos> hi smile 
[18:06] <smile> hi Kilos :)
[18:06] <smile> I made my homework :DD
[18:06] <smile> I even looked at the maths exercises ;) and made some, for the test tomorrow
[18:06] <Kilos> did your homework?
[18:06] <Kilos> good boy
[18:06] <Kilos> good luck
[18:10] <smile> :)
[18:10] <smile> yeah.. some work that needs to be done for next friday :)
[18:10] <smile> next week Friday, I mean
[18:13] <smile> How do I say bungler in Afrikaans? :p
[18:13] <smile> knoër? (knoeier?)
[18:16] <inetpro> smile: the last one
[18:16] <inetpro> knoeier
[18:16] <inetpro> but in all my years I've never seen the word bungler before
[18:16] <inetpro> never to old to learn
[18:17] <smile> yeah :DD
[18:17] <smile> Then I was correct ;)
[18:17] <smile> inetpro: does "Prutser" also exist? :p
[18:17] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:17] <inetpro> smile: context?
[18:19] <inetpro> smile: you mean for the same word?
[18:19] <smile> inetpro: well, someone is doing something gawky
[18:19] <smile> so I say, prutser :p
[18:19] <smile> (in Dutch)
[18:20] <smile> :p
[18:20] <inetpro> hmm... ek ken nie die woord prutser in Afrikaans nie
[18:20] <smile> :(
[18:20] <smile> do you know what it means? :)
[18:20] <inetpro> maar ek kyk gou in die woordeboek
[18:21] <smile> :DD
[18:21] <smile> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/potterer.htm = Prutser :p
[18:21] <inetpro> hmm,,,
[18:22] <inetpro> prutsel, prutselaar, prutselwerk
[18:22] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:22] <inetpro> Kilos: ken jy van 'n prutser?
[18:23] <Kilos> nog nooit daai woord gehoor nie
[18:23] <smile> http://www.authsecu.com/dictionnaire/africain-divers.php :)
[18:23] <Kilos> smile where you found that word
[18:24] <inetpro> somebody put that up already on google translate
[18:24] <inetpro> http://translate.google.com/#auto/af/potterer
[18:24] <inetpro> but I'm not convinced
[18:24] <smile> Kilos: in Dutch ;)
[18:25] <Kilos> ah
[18:25] <smile> I wonder if it exists in Afrikaans :)
[18:25] <Kilos> lemme check in dikpensmerrie
[18:26] <inetpro> ahh
[18:26] <inetpro> there's the word prutsery in my Afrikaans-English dictionary
[18:27] <inetpro> stands for tinkering, niggling or bungling
[18:28] <inetpro> smile: so based on that I guess you could talk about a "prutser"
[18:29] <smile> :)
[18:29] <inetpro> hang on
[18:29] <smile> Lol.
[18:29] <Kilos> prutsel=niggle, tinkle potter fiddle
[18:29] <inetpro> smile: prutselaar 
[18:29] <inetpro> that ^^ is the correct form for a tenkerer
[18:30] <inetpro> or a potterer
[18:30] <smile> are you a prutselaar, inetpro ? :p
[18:30] <inetpro> ai!
[18:30] <Kilos> prutselaar =tinkerer potterer
[18:31] <smile> I know ;)
[18:31] <inetpro> smile: sounds funny, to be honest
[18:32] <Kilos> prutdery =tinkering, niggling bungling
[18:32] <inetpro> not a word that I have heard often, if at all
[18:32] <Kilos> definitely not a well used word
[18:32] <smile> what would you use instead, Kilos ? :p
[18:33] <Kilos> hmm
[18:33] <Kilos> is this for someone that fiddles with everything but maily unsuccessfully
[18:33] <Kilos> bungling is making a mess of things
[18:34] <Kilos> s/maily/mainly
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: knoeiery?
[18:35] <inetpro> of brouwerk?
[18:35] <Kilos> isnt that more what skelms do?
[18:35] <Kilos> brouwerk ja
[18:35] <inetpro> onbeholpe
[18:35] <inetpro> sukkelrig
[18:35] <smile> :p
[18:36] <smile> well, just trying to do something but "sukkel" while doing it xD
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: I would say those last two
[18:36] <smile> and you come to a result close, but not the same :p
[18:36] <Kilos> lol what are we looking for a translation for
[18:37] <Kilos> potterer
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: of droogmaker
[18:37] <Kilos> haha ja
[18:38]  * nlsthzn just ran into a utility to install x11 under osx... seems it is still being developed and used by some people for mac's... 
[18:38] <inetpro> smile: sukkelaar?
[18:38] <smile> ja :p something like that :p
[18:38] <smile> but not really. :p
[18:39] <inetpro> ai!
[18:39] <inetpro> gaan ons toets skryf hieroor?
[18:39] <Kilos> sukkelaar is good  but that is a battler
[18:39] <Kilos> battler with everything or certain things might be different
[18:40] <inetpro> nlsthzn: that sounds old
[18:40] <smile> nee, inetpro :)
[18:40] <inetpro> lol
[18:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:40] <smile> aalagtig -> like an aal (fish?)
[18:40] <smile> correct? :p
[18:40] <inetpro> smile: yebo yes
[18:40] <smile> ok :p weird.. :p
[18:40] <nlsthzn> inetpro, in the utility folder for osx 10.8.2 mountain lion... can't get newer than that :p
[18:41] <inetpro> yikes
[18:41] <nlsthzn> seems apple and community is developing it still... odd
[18:41] <inetpro> nlsthzn: osx is some form of X windows
[18:42] <inetpro> so I don't see the point of install x11 on topof that
[18:45] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:45]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:46] <Kilos> whew
[18:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[18:46] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[18:46] <Kilos> Maaz, large
[18:46] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[18:46] <smile> what does makeout mean? :p
[18:46] <smile> http://lolfunnypictures.net/wtf-are-we-going-to-have-s3x-and-make-out
[18:46] <Kilos> Maaz, define makeout
[18:46] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about makeout. Maybe you meant takeout?
[18:46] <Kilos> hehe
[18:46] <inetpro> lol
[18:47] <smile> this? :p
[18:47] <smile> Engage in sexual foreplay or intercourse, as in Bill and Jane were making out on the sofa, or Joe bragged that he made out last night. [Slang; early 1900s]
[18:48] <inetpro> sjoe!
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: can you make that out?
[18:48] <inetpro> where's our lingo specialists like superfly when we need them
[18:48] <Kilos> thats modern peeps slang
[18:49] <inetpro> :-)
[18:49] <superfly> taking children to bed
[18:49] <inetpro> superfly: no worries
[18:49]  * inetpro just checking
[18:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[18:49] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[18:49] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[18:49] <superfly> make out means different things depending on where you come from.
[18:49] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie ou maat
[18:49] <Maaz> inetpro: *blink*
[18:49]  * superfly has children to take care of
[18:50] <inetpro> superfly: go read some story for them
[18:50] <inetpro> and then come back for a change
[18:50] <inetpro> don't fall asleep
[18:50] <Kilos> inetpro, kids say lets hang and makeout
[18:51] <Kilos> mainly learned from american junk movies
[18:51] <inetpro> superfly: the aim is to get the kids to fall asleep
[18:52] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: dit reen hier
[18:55] <inetpro> wel, drup
[18:55] <Kilos> stuur
[18:55] <inetpro> nee wag
[18:55] <inetpro> gee my ook 'n kans
[18:55] <Kilos> hehe
[18:56] <Kilos> vrek warm hier
[18:56] <Kilos> geen wind of water
[18:56] <inetpro> selle hier, maar ek glo dit sal nogal lekker afkoel nou
[18:56] <nlsthzn> inetpro, I guess some sort of alternative...
[18:56] <Kilos> as dit reen miskien
[18:56] <inetpro> nou sal my watlemoene lekker groei
[18:57] <inetpro> en die lietjies, mangos en avos
[18:58] <Kilos> as dit goed reen ja
[18:58] <Kilos> as ek onthou sal ek more vir jou n kiekie neem van misbredie
[18:59] <Kilos> en as skape en voels saam speel sal ek saad oes as daar kom
[18:59] <inetpro> Kilos: ek's nie desperaat nie
[18:59] <Kilos> ek weet maar jy sal sien dis beter as daai kleinblaar marog
[18:59] <Kilos> en te vroeg vir saad nou
[19:01] <Kilos> ken jy van die bredie maak
[19:01] <Kilos> inetpro, ^
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: miskien, miskien nie
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe maak jy dit?
[19:02] <Kilos> braai uie entomatie
[19:02] <Kilos> braai fry
[19:02] <inetpro> fry?
[19:02] <smile> wat is zeboe, inetpro ? :p
[19:03] <inetpro> smile: nee, ek weet nie
[19:03] <inetpro> smile: wat is dit?
[19:03] <Kilos> then you put that in a pot with the marog in and add quite a few potatoes cut smallish
[19:03] <smile> De zeboe of het bultrund (Bos taurus indicus) is een rund dat in het Indische subcontinent en Afrika wordt gedomesticeerd, en voornamelijk in tropische en subtropische klimaten gehouden wordt. Het dier wordt gekarakteriseerd door de grote bult achter de nek.
[19:03] <Kilos> when potatoes soft you kinda mash it a bit
[19:03] <smile> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bos_taurus_indicus.jpg
[19:03] <smile> @ inetpro 
[19:04] <smile> I found a mistake :o In a French word list of Afrikaans words
[19:04] <smile> http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seboe
[19:04] <Kilos> the tomatoes remove some of the bitterness
[19:04] <inetpro> sjoe Kilos, ken jy daai gedierte?
[19:04] <Kilos> dont forget salt
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: wat is fry?
[19:04] <Kilos> taurus is n bul
[19:04] <Kilos> fry thew onion
[19:05] <Kilos> the
[19:05] <inetpro> ai!
[19:05] <Kilos> like for onion and tomato gravy
[19:05] <inetpro> hy mix sy tales?
[19:05] <Kilos> well i wasnt sure about braai
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: klink nogal lekker
[19:06] <Kilos> baie lekker
[19:06] <Kilos> jy eet jou trommel dik
[19:06] <Kilos> en baie gesond
[19:06] <inetpro> smile: dit lyk soos 'n Brahmaan bul
[19:07] <Kilos> most peeps cook spinach on its own and i find that rather bitter
[19:07] <smile> oh, inetpro :)
[19:07] <Kilos> wait i go see
[19:07] <Kilos> yip brahman
[19:07] <Kilos> bos indicus
[19:08] <Kilos> smile, go find the bonsmara cattle
[19:08] <Kilos> thats a south afrikan breed 
[19:09] <Kilos> brahman was part of the original input if im not mistaken
[19:09] <Kilos> and afrikaner
[19:10] <Kilos> and some others
[19:10] <smile> Kilos: http://www.bonsmara.co.za/ ? :p
[19:10] <smile>  Bonsmara is die enigste ras ter wêreld wat deur 'n goed gedokumenteerde kruisteelprogram ontwikkel is, met behulp van objektiewe aantekening van prestasie data.
[19:11] <Kilos> they have been our top beef breed for years now methinks
[19:12] <Kilos> those cuts in the ears are how they are numbered for identification purposes
[19:13] <smile> Kilos: it must be a painful process :(
[19:14] <Kilos> nope its about the same as peeps piercing their ears for earrings
[19:14] <Kilos> special tool clips it out
[19:16] <superfly> in hte USA, to "make out" means to kiss and hug and cuddle and pet each other
[19:16] <smile> I never understood the concept of earrings. :p
[19:16] <superfly> in the UK, to "make out" means to have sex
[19:16] <Kilos> pure sa breed like the drakensberger
[19:16] <Kilos> kafoofle
[19:17] <inetpro> Kilos: dis my bees daai
[19:17] <Kilos> smile,  what made you bring up cows
[19:17] <Kilos> lol die swartes inetpro 
[19:18] <inetpro> Kilos: yip, my pa het landwyd gereis om daai beeste te keur
[19:18] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:18] <Kilos> hulle kruis goed uit met jersey en hereford
[19:18] <inetpro> was ook altyd hier by die skou in Pretoria
[19:19] <inetpro> wel baie kere
[19:19] <Kilos> ai die ou daie ne
[19:19] <inetpro> mooi beeste
[19:19] <Kilos> baie
[19:19] <Kilos> maar die bonsmara wen top slag bees elke jaar
[19:20] <inetpro> is waar
[19:20] <Kilos> en die ou jersey melk koei het die fynste vleis van almal
[19:21] <smile> het jy so 'n beest, Kilos ? :p
[19:22] <Kilos> nee seun ek het vir ander geboer met hulle
[19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: en hulle het die lekkerste melk
[19:22] <Kilos> 5 jaar met jersey melkery en 2 jaar met bonsmaras
[19:22] <inetpro> volroom
[19:22] <Kilos> beste melk koei op die aarde
[19:23]  * inetpro is sommer lus en skaf ene aan
[19:23] <Kilos> naaste een is gurnsey
[19:23] <Kilos> guernsey
[19:23] <Kilos> sjoe so iets
[19:23] <Kilos> baie werk
[19:24] <Kilos> 2 keer n dag melk
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: hoeveel gras het jy nodig vir 'n bees?
[19:24] <inetpro> een koei?
[19:24] <Kilos> 3 hektaar per bees per jaar
[19:24] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:24] <Kilos> minder as jy voer plante plant
[19:24]  * inetpro sal by die bure moet bedel vir weiding
[19:25] <inetpro> sal nie werk nie
[19:25] <Kilos> dis n probleem hier bo
[19:25] <inetpro> Kilos: en 'n skaap?
[19:25] <Kilos> hmm
[19:26] <Kilos> seker 1/4 hektaar
[19:26] <Kilos> maar moet verskillende grasse in he
[19:26] <inetpro> ai
[19:26] <Kilos> dus eintlik baie interesant
[19:27] <Kilos> hulle sal vir n huur of so op kikuyu eet dan velt toe
[19:27] <Kilos> dan later weer terug
[19:27] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:27] <Kilos> en hulle hou van blomme en kruie
[19:28] <Kilos> en vrugte bome
[19:28] <Kilos> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> en druiwe
[19:28] <inetpro> ek neem aan jy sal weet 
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: en boerbokke?
[19:29] <inetpro> jy al hulle probeer?
[19:29] <Kilos> nee nog nooit
[19:29] <Kilos> hlle eet als
[19:32] <smile> "nee seun ek het vir ander geboer met hulle" ok, Kilos :)
[19:32] <smile> bye! :)
[19:32] <smile> good night
[19:32] <inetpro> de geit
[19:32] <Kilos> night smile sleep tight
[19:32] <smile> thanks :)
[19:32] <inetpro> nag smily
[19:32] <smile> dankje inetpro :)
[19:39] <Kilos> wb Tonberry 
[19:39] <Tonberry> router woes
[19:40] <Kilos> night all sleep tight. see ya morrow
[19:40] <Kilos> eeek
[19:40] <Kilos> always something
[20:19] <Squirm>  great, we all want to have boot issues at 22:22
[20:21] <Squirm> oh, so now it decides to boot
[20:24] <kbmonkey> sup Squirm 
[20:24] <Squirm> hello kbmonkey 
[20:26] <kbmonkey> it is booting now?
[20:27] <kbmonkey> I'm going to try update my android firmware.
[20:27] <Squirm> it booted
[20:27] <Squirm> it never booted the first time, so hit the restart button
[20:27] <Squirm> all i saw was a black screen. 2nd time it booted into the recovery console
[20:27] <Squirm> hit restart
[20:27] <Squirm> and voila
[20:27] <kbmonkey> ah
[20:28] <kbmonkey> could be a disk spin-up delay.
[20:28] <kbmonkey> some bios'es have option to set a delay to wait for disk to spin up before it tries to boot
[20:28] <Squirm> I've had this pc for 6 years and have had no such problem
[20:30] <kbmonkey> be sure to take regular backups just in case :)
[22:04] <superfly> magespawn: do you have malaria up there?