| ochosi | knome: for tomorrow's meeting, it'd be nice if gtk-theme-config (shimmer-ppa) could be looked at, and testing for the new display-dialog, thunar1.6.x and mousepad 0.3 (all three from the xfce4.12 ppa) could be scheduled in terms of including it in R. thanks! | 01:00 |
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| ochosi | (as i mentioned previously i won't be able to attend tomorrow due to a worktrip) | 01:00 |
| mr_pouit | I didn't include the new display settings in raring because it's a dev release, but all other things are already in raring | 01:07 |
| ochosi | oh | 01:07 |
| ochosi | and hi! :) | 01:07 |
| ochosi | well still, imo we should get it in | 01:08 |
| ochosi | it's too nice an improvement not to have it imo | 01:08 |
| mr_pouit | hey, and fine by me, it's our code anyway :P | 01:11 |
| ochosi | hehe | 01:11 |
| ochosi | yeah, so no chance for regressions ;) | 01:12 |
| mr_pouit | haha | 01:13 |
| bluesabre | agreed with all the above | 01:15 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:15 |
| ochosi | :] | 01:16 |
| micahg | ochosi: thunar 1.6.x and mousepad 0.3 are in raring AFAICT | 01:19 |
| ochosi | micahg: yeah, mr_pouit mentioned that a few minutes above ;) | 01:19 |
| Unit193 | Alright, anyone have a *fresh* 13.04 Xubuntu 32bit install? Noskcaj_afk? | 03:09 |
| jackson__ | Unit193, no sorry, only a heavily modded xubuntu12.10 amd64 | 05:53 |
| Unit193 | Alright, thanks. | 06:05 |
| knome | bluesabre, were you able to make it today? | 08:09 |
| bluesabre | knome: I should be able to. | 09:53 |
| knome | bluesabre, ok, good | 09:55 |
| knome | bluesabre, do you have some time before it, like 30mins? | 09:55 |
| knome | or 20 | 09:56 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| bluesabre_ | knome: I'll try to be around before. What time is it at again? | 14:14 |
| knome | bluesabre_, in 20. :) | 14:41 |
| bluesabre_ | alrighty, I'll be here. :-) | 14:43 |
| knome | great | 14:43 |
| knome | can i have a quick pm? | 14:43 |
| bluesabre_ | sure | 14:43 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 14:58 |
| knome | hullo | 14:59 |
| bluesabre_ | :D | 14:59 |
| maddernick | Is there a meeting? | 14:59 |
| knome | i'm starting the meeting and going through the formalities | 14:59 |
| knome | i'll ask who's around in a bit | 14:59 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meetings | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jan 10 14:59:39 2013 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 14:59 |
| knome | #topic Items carried on | 14:59 |
| knome | #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting | 15:00 |
| knome | #action knome to draft flyer looks | 15:00 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to draft flyer looks | 15:00 |
| knome | not happened. | 15:00 |
| knome | #chair pleia2 | 15:00 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: knome pleia2 | 15:00 |
| knome | so, who's here for the meeting? | 15:00 |
| pleia2 | me | 15:00 |
| maddernick | o/ | 15:00 |
| knome | raise your hands or sth so you'll get logged | 15:00 |
| bluesabre_ | me | 15:01 |
| bluesabre_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| knome | ok, great | 15:01 |
| knome | micahg, dingdong | 15:01 |
| jjfrv8 | o/ | 15:01 |
| knome | #topic Team updates | 15:01 |
| knome | hey jjfrv8 :) | 15:01 |
| knome | #subtopic Development | 15:01 |
| micahg | hi | 15:01 |
| knome | micahg, mr_pouit | 15:01 |
| knome | i suppose there's a few things that has happened since the start of the R cycle | 15:02 |
| knome | ....and we all can still use #action and #info. :) | 15:03 |
| bluesabre_ | #info parole 0.4.0 released, looking for testers (not enough bugs logged on it) | 15:03 |
| micahg | #info mr_pouit has gotten newer versions of various components into raring | 15:03 |
| knome | i'll talk a bit more about testing later | 15:03 |
| micahg | #info i386 ISO is CD size again (minus fr langpacks) | 15:04 |
| knome | but parole getting forward is a good idea! | 15:04 |
| knome | err, s/idea/news/ :) | 15:04 |
| micahg | #info micahg working on rebuild FTBFS failures, mostly related to multiarch python headers | 15:04 |
| micahg | #action micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) | 15:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) | 15:05 |
| micahg | questions or comments? | 15:05 |
| knome | #info just for general information, the alpha2 is most probably going to be postponed by a few days (read ubuntu-release archives for more info) | 15:06 |
| knome | micahg, is there something that's building up the iso size by a lot again? | 15:06 |
| knome | and/or can we expect something like that | 15:06 |
| micahg | idk, I'd have to compare the manifest from quantal to raring | 15:06 |
| knome | but we didn't go over by much anyway? | 15:07 |
| micahg | we can expect it to increase over time due to new core system deps | 15:07 |
| micahg | amd64 is only 10MB over | 15:07 |
| knome | is there any hopes of getting python2 or sth else big dropped this cycle? | 15:07 |
| micahg | doubtful | 15:07 |
| bluesabre_ | I should have a python3 catfish in the coming weeks | 15:07 |
| knome | ..and/or should we seriously talk about (dropping) langpacks in the next weeks? | 15:08 |
| micahg | I don't think I'm in a position to do massive python3 porting | 15:08 |
| micahg | es zh-hans xh pt is all that's left | 15:08 |
| micahg | we can drop es or pt and probably be CD sized now | 15:08 |
| knome | i don't think anybody should take that responsibility alone | 15:08 |
| micahg | or very close toit | 15:08 |
| knome | do we have a general idea what needs to be ported from python2? | 15:09 |
| knome | do you think it would make sense to list those, and try to get some people to work on it? | 15:09 |
| knome | we've had quite many people interested in helping with xubuntu lately (don't know how many are familiar with python) | 15:09 |
| knome | that could create some positive momentum if we had something to point the people to | 15:10 |
| micahg | I could probably dig up a list, we could see if any of the upstreams of those components have ported to python3 | 15:10 |
| knome | so would you be willing to take an official action item for that? | 15:10 |
| knome | ;) | 15:10 |
| micahg | to get the list, sure | 15:11 |
| bluesabre_ | I look forward to seeing that list :) | 15:11 |
| knome | #action micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 | 15:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 | 15:11 |
| micahg | #action micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 | 15:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 | 15:11 |
| knome | hehe | 15:11 |
| knome | well... | 15:11 |
| knome | some reminders. | 15:11 |
| micahg | #action micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds | 15:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds | 15:11 |
| knome | #info we'll see how the python-port list looks like, then reconsider if we should consider dropping langpacks | 15:12 |
| micahg | anything else? | 15:12 |
| knome | mmh | 15:13 |
| knome | i don't think that there's anything at this point | 15:13 |
| micahg | we only have 1 webkit, but 2 GTKs and 2 python2 | 15:13 |
| micahg | *pythons | 15:13 |
| knome | yeah | 15:13 |
| knome | i don't think dropping gtk2 is realistic any time soon, that's why i started poking on the python side | 15:14 |
| knome | (don't get that wrong...) | 15:14 |
| micahg | surely not until Xfce is ported | 15:14 |
| knome | anyway | 15:14 |
| knome | thanks micahg :) | 15:14 |
| knome | #subtopic Quality Assurance | 15:14 |
| * micahg wants to drop tcl.. | 15:14 | |
| knome | what's blocking? | 15:14 |
| micahg | it's a recommends of xchat, but that only gets up half way | 15:15 |
| micahg | *us | 15:15 |
| knome | nothing else is keeping that in? | 15:15 |
| micahg | I think so | 15:17 |
| knome | ok | 15:17 |
| knome | #action micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl | 15:18 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl | 15:18 |
| knome | #nick team | 15:18 |
| knome | so QA | 15:18 |
| knome | #action knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 | 15:18 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 | 15:18 |
| knome | #action bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects | 15:18 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects | 15:18 |
| bluesabre_ | #info parole 0.4 is out and available in raring, lots of new features and fixes, testers needed | 15:19 |
| knome | #info we will do some specific cadence testing before a2 | 15:19 |
| knome | #info when a2 is out, we will do more of more general cadence testing | 15:19 |
| knome | #action knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing | 15:20 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing | 15:20 |
| knome | is there anything else in QA? | 15:20 |
| knome | questions about testing for R or sth? | 15:20 |
| pleia2 | do we want to do another blog post about testing? | 15:21 |
| pleia2 | (haven't had a post in a while) | 15:21 |
| knome | pleia2, yes. | 15:21 |
| knome | i'll switch the subtopic quickly. | 15:21 |
| pleia2 | ok, you can action me to draft it after you've sent the mailing list info | 15:21 |
| knome | #subtopic Marketing, Promotion and Artwork | 15:21 |
| pleia2 | er, info to mailing list | 15:21 |
| knome | #action pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML | 15:22 |
| meetingology | ACTION: pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML | 15:22 |
| knome | #info we contacted the identi.ca xubuntu group and will be co-admins of that soon | 15:22 |
| bluesabre_ | yay! | 15:22 |
| pleia2 | (hopefully :)) | 15:22 |
| knome | yeah. | 15:22 |
| knome | but no reason why not, if people look at their email | 15:23 |
| knome | is there some other social media outlets we should be on? | 15:23 |
| knome | i'm not proposing to create anything new, but see if there's something existing we can make official, like the G+ page | 15:23 |
| bluesabre_ | diaspora (lol) | 15:23 |
| knome | well, we are on facebook.. | 15:23 |
| pleia2 | I haven't seen anything pop up lately | 15:24 |
| knome | does anybody in the team have a diaspora account, or how does that stuff even work? :P | 15:24 |
| bluesabre_ | I have one, doesn't really work so well since its decentralized, and all it really seems to be is cat pictures | 15:24 |
| knome | ok, so let's not go there | 15:24 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 15:25 |
| knome | anything else on the subjects? | 15:25 |
| bluesabre_ | any new case badges or anything, pleia2? | 15:25 |
| knome | oh | 15:25 |
| pleia2 | no new ones, still have a billion of the old ones :) | 15:25 |
| knome | #info knome is seriously considering of ordering one more xubuntu t-shirt for testing quality etc | 15:26 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 15:26 |
| knome | pleia2, seriously? i've almost given all of mine away.. | 15:26 |
| knome | and i don't go into LUG's, see people, or anything like that! | 15:26 |
| knome | :P | 15:26 |
| pleia2 | I ordered a lot :) | 15:26 |
| knome | 100? | 15:27 |
| knome | or you did another batch? | 15:27 |
| pleia2 | still the 100 | 15:27 |
| knome | ok | 15:27 |
| pleia2 | holidays here make everyone disappear from events and I've been busy ;) | 15:27 |
| knome | heh | 15:27 |
| knome | right | 15:27 |
| knome | it's the boring general weekday life that does it here | 15:27 |
| pleia2 | #info we have someone working on updated screenshots for the website for 12.10 (better late than never!) | 15:28 |
| knome | anyway, any other things on m/p/a? | 15:28 |
| knome | ooh! | 15:28 |
| pleia2 | #info as always, we could use more team members contributing blog posts, you know where to find me :) | 15:28 |
| knome | #action team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community | 15:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community | 15:29 |
| pleia2 | I think that's it for mpa | 15:29 |
| knome | i've been blogging quite a lot about xubuntu'ish things on my blog and tweeting them with the xubuntu account | 15:29 |
| knome | #info if you write about xubuntu (development) on your blog, it's possible to tweet about that @Xubuntu | 15:30 |
| bluesabre_ | I always write a xubuntu review post a few days following release, I'll keep that in mind. | 15:30 |
| knome | yup, just remind us | 15:30 |
| knome | #info or, if you're on twitter yourself, we can retweet too.. | 15:31 |
| knome | #info knome has been retweeting some nice comments for @Xubuntu anyway | 15:31 |
| pleia2 | :) | 15:31 |
| knome | #subtopic Documentation, Website | 15:31 |
| knome | anything on this? | 15:32 |
| knome | well, the note about somebody working on the screenshots | 15:32 |
| bluesabre_ | knome, you mentioned considering moving the help documents to yelp at one point | 15:32 |
| knome | am i failing on the categoriing again? :) | 15:32 |
| knome | +z | 15:32 |
| pleia2 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-xubuntu-docs | 15:32 |
| knome | bluesabre_, right. we should talk about that in #ubuntu-docs | 15:32 |
| knome | bluesabre_, somebody there suggested that | 15:32 |
| bluesabre_ | ah | 15:33 |
| knome | for being able to have translations and stuff | 15:33 |
| knome | bluesabre_, you interested in finding out more about that? | 15:33 |
| bluesabre_ | I might be able to help. I've done some stuff with mallard | 15:33 |
| knome | mh | 15:34 |
| knome | #action bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff | 15:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff | 15:34 |
| knome | anything else? | 15:34 |
| bluesabre_ | brb | 15:35 |
| knome | ok, probably not | 15:35 |
| knome | #subtopic General updates | 15:35 |
| knome | anything else? | 15:35 |
| micahg | are we having a default apps discussion at all? | 15:36 |
| knome | micahg, hurrrr | 15:36 |
| knome | micahg, if you *really* want to :) | 15:36 |
| knome | i mean | 15:36 |
| pleia2 | the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 15:36 |
| pleia2 | consider this your invite :) | 15:36 |
| pleia2 | I'll remind on the day too, 7 days a 1.5 hrs from now | 15:37 |
| knome | pleia2, can i consider that as an invite, or should i consider that as a must since i asked for that? | 15:37 |
| knome | ;) | 15:37 |
| bluesabre_ | back | 15:37 |
| pleia2 | :) | 15:37 |
| bluesabre_ | mousepad | 15:37 |
| micahg | no, I'd rather not, but maybe there's something we're shipping that's not worthwhile | 15:37 |
| knome | so that's more about "dropping things we don't need" than "default applications" talk | 15:38 |
| knome | with def apps i'm thinking about somebody wanting to *replace* something | 15:38 |
| knome | i think mousepad is a good proposal though | 15:38 |
| knome | i mean, in the sense that it's a good proposal to look at it, not taking any side if it's good to include or not (yet) | 15:39 |
| bluesabre_ | I think it should be considered | 15:39 |
| knome | micahg, let's schedule some time later to look at the seed togheter | 15:39 |
| bluesabre_ | Its minimalistic, but can actually be used for development | 15:39 |
| knome | *together | 15:39 |
| knome | #action team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things | 15:40 |
| meetingology | ACTION: team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things | 15:40 |
| knome | bluesabre_, leafpad is too, and i suppose that's what you're proposing to replace, so no problem with that. | 15:40 |
| micahg | bluesabre: we switched to leafpad in oneiric to get rid of xfprint4 | 15:40 |
| knome | i there still that dep? | 15:40 |
| micahg | no | 15:40 |
| knome | in mousepad i mean | 15:41 |
| micahg | no | 15:41 |
| knome | ok, then np from my POV | 15:41 |
| knome | if we move back to mousepad, i'm wondering if we should create a symlink for leafpad since many people have learnt *that* now | 15:42 |
| knome | like me. | 15:42 |
| micahg | mousepad is a bit bigger | 15:42 |
| knome | define "a bit" | 15:42 |
| knome | 1 byte? | 15:42 |
| micahg | 100k | 15:42 |
| micahg | with a few more deps | 15:42 |
| knome | mmh | 15:42 |
| knome | let's consider that | 15:42 |
| * micahg wonders why an editor needs a dep on dbus | 15:42 | |
| knome | #action team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad | 15:42 |
| meetingology | ACTION: team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad | 15:42 |
| pleia2 | heh | 15:42 |
| knome | #topic Announcements | 15:43 |
| knome | #subtopic Changes of positions on the Xubuntu team | 15:43 |
| knome | #info elfy dropped a line that he can't help in the R cycle; knome will take over the QA-related stuff (again) | 15:43 |
| knome | #info The term for XPL ends at the end of this cycle | 15:44 |
| knome | #info Since we changed the Strategy Document, the next term will only be 2 (two) releases, since the term is designed to end with an LTS release. | 15:44 |
| knome | #info We will be voting on extending the current XPL's term at the end of the cycle; if not extended, a new XPL will serve for two cycles | 15:45 |
| knome | anything you want to ask? | 15:45 |
| micahg | why an extension instead of a new election? | 15:45 |
| knome | well, you can consider that as a new election | 15:45 |
| micahg | or is the new term supposed to be 2 years? | 15:45 |
| * micahg supposes he should read the doc | 15:46 | |
| knome | i'm partly disqualified in this thing | 15:46 |
| knome | it used to be 1,5 years | 15:46 |
| knome | but that doesn't make sense because it doesn't allow long-term planning (because it doesn't always end with an LTS release) | 15:46 |
| knome | so yes, the term is supposed to be 2 years | 15:46 |
| knome | but this is the exception, because the overruling rule is that the term should end with an LTS release | 15:47 |
| micahg | ok, then extending your term to 2.5 years isn't unreasonable | 15:47 |
| knome | no, but i'm completely okay with doing a vote, because i changed that thing in the SD myself | 15:47 |
| knome | and i think we need to do one | 15:47 |
| micahg | knome: oh, I agree that it should be put to a vote :) | 15:47 |
| knome | there's a slight possibility that i'm saying "i won't!" | 15:47 |
| knome | and then you *have to* elect somebody else, like micahg or bluesabre_ | 15:48 |
| knome | >:) | 15:48 |
| pleia2 | :P | 15:48 |
| knome | or pleia2! | 15:48 |
| * micahg would vote for pleia2 | 15:48 | |
| pleia2 | noo | 15:48 |
| knome | haha | 15:48 |
| micahg | hehe | 15:48 |
| bluesabre_ | I'd vote for not me | 15:48 |
| knome | i suppose the SD says one must be willing to serve... ;) | 15:48 |
| knome | if it doesn't, we should change that before voting... | 15:49 |
| pleia2 | lol | 15:49 |
| knome | anyway, that's it for announcements | 15:49 |
| knome | any other team leads have other announcements? | 15:49 |
| knome | pleia2, maybe post the CC invite here with #info? | 15:49 |
| knome | if it's still on your history | 15:49 |
| pleia2 | right | 15:50 |
| pleia2 | #info the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 15:50 |
| knome | thanks | 15:50 |
| knome | #topic New and emerging items | 15:50 |
| knome | #subtopic Serbian translation for Xfce 4.10 | 15:51 |
| knome | micahg? | 15:51 |
| knome | what do you want to discuss | 15:51 |
| knome | or is this something you should discuss with mr_pouit | 15:51 |
| knome | #subtopic Discuss changing Xfce translations to a langpack system similar to KDE (makes it easier to update translations post release) | 15:52 |
| knome | that's pretty much the same subject | 15:52 |
| micahg | sorry, got distracted | 15:52 |
| knome | no problem | 15:52 |
| knome | we can simply postpone these, if you need other people to discuss with | 15:53 |
| knome | i'm completely ok with changing the system if that's easier for you | 15:53 |
| micahg | well, I'd like mr_pouit's opinion, but I think it might be worthwhile to switch to a Kubuntu style langpacks so that we can update the languages post release more easily | 15:53 |
| knome | and i'm completely ok with getting the serbian translation in 13.04, and i'll help if i can | 15:53 |
| knome | do we need to do that often / have we done that often / would we have needed to do that more often than we did? | 15:54 |
| micahg | idk that it's been done before since we don't have the option ATM | 15:54 |
| knome | it has or hasn't been done before? :) | 15:54 |
| micahg | right now, we'd have to reupload everything with the languages in question | 15:54 |
| micahg | as opposed to one new langpack source | 15:55 |
| knome | that doesn't help me understand it thoroughly... but as said, if it makes the maintaining (much) more easy, it's probably worth it | 15:55 |
| knome | would you follow up about this with mr_pouit? | 15:56 |
| micahg | I think overall it does, it just will require a bit of work up front | 15:56 |
| mr_pouit | (sorry for being late/silent) indeed, language packs are great, I'm still a bit skeptical about the lp/contributors' side. | 15:56 |
| knome | yup, but maybe we could get other people to help, if there's some low-hanging fruit | 15:56 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: not for that reason, we wouldn't end up with LP stuff unless we asked | 15:56 |
| micahg | or set it up for that, it's more for post release updates from upstream | 15:57 |
| mr_pouit | oh, great | 15:57 |
| knome | so will you both/either of you take an action item for that? | 15:58 |
| knome | :] | 15:58 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: so we can grab stuff like this and update it: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-10/l/af/ | 15:58 |
| micahg | or this for a better example: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-10/l/sr/ | 15:59 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: yeah, if we can regularly sync .po from xfce-4.x branches, that's the best way | 15:59 |
| mr_pouit | (I've done it once for nl.po when pjotr asked, but it's painful to patch each package) | 15:59 |
| micahg | I'd have to look at how Kubuntu does it | 15:59 |
| micahg | they have scripts to help and I think KDE upstream ships the languages separately | 16:00 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: do you think corsac would be open to doing this in Debian? | 16:00 |
| micahg | it might require patching the various xfce packages to not ship the po files (again, I have to see how Kubuntu handles this) | 16:01 |
| mr_pouit | not sure he'll be happy about that (patch all packages I mean) | 16:01 |
| micahg | well, I would think we only want to ship 1 copy of the translations per app | 16:02 |
| mr_pouit | ubuntu langpacks install somewhere else and use pkgstriptranslations I think, isn't it feasible as well | 16:03 |
| mr_pouit | +? | 16:04 |
| mr_pouit | (or only when rosetta/lp is involved?) | 16:04 |
| micahg | yeah, can be | 16:04 |
| knome | so... will you take the needed action items for this? :) | 16:06 |
| micahg | ok | 16:06 |
| knome | thanks | 16:07 |
| mr_pouit | (I can, although I'm not sure I can give it too much time before february) | 16:07 |
| mr_pouit | fine then, thanks :P | 16:07 |
| knome | no problem | 16:07 |
| knome | umm.. would you write the nice little poems yourself? :P | 16:08 |
| micahg | #action micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack | 16:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack | 16:09 |
| knome | do we need something else? | 16:09 |
| micahg | that depends on the success of the above | 16:10 |
| knome | heh,ok | 16:10 |
| knome | #subtopic Schedule next meeting | 16:10 |
| knome | two weeks from now sound fine for everybody? | 16:10 |
| micahg | sure, are we participating in 12.04.2? | 16:11 |
| pleia2 | probably | 16:11 |
| knome | micahg, why not? | 16:11 |
| bluesabre_ | yeah, that should work for me | 16:11 |
| knome | isn't that today | 16:11 |
| micahg | well, do we have any work that needs to be done? | 16:11 |
| knome | oh, kernelfreeze | 16:11 |
| knome | i don't think so | 16:11 |
| micahg | it's Jan 31 | 16:12 |
| knome | at least i can't think anything from my head | 16:12 |
| knome | we'll have a week | 16:12 |
| micahg | SRU freeze is next week | 16:12 |
| knome | aha | 16:12 |
| knome | it's not in the release schedule... for some weird reason | 16:12 |
| mr_pouit | any urgen SRu pending? | 16:12 |
| micahg | well, I wanted to fix gvfs in thunar, but I ran into a dead end | 16:12 |
| knome | and we wanted to port the docs to 12.04, but that's not happening for .2 | 16:13 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: the slow startup? | 16:13 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: no, failure due to transport endpoint | 16:13 |
| mr_pouit | ah, that too | 16:13 |
| micahg | then I tried backporting later versions and had issues with that since the dependencies changed | 16:13 |
| mr_pouit | I think this was fixed when mountpoints moved to /run/$user/... | 16:14 |
| mr_pouit | (but not in precise) | 16:14 |
| knome | so regardless, is meeting in 2 weeks ok? | 16:14 |
| knome | i need to go... :) | 16:14 |
| micahg | that makes sense, they're no longer in an encrypted area | 16:14 |
| micahg | yes, makes sense | 16:15 |
| knome | #info Next Xubuntu community meeting: Jan 24, 15 UTC @#xubuntu-devel | 16:15 |
| knome | #endmeetings | 16:15 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 16:15 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Jan 10 16:15:12 2013 UTC. | 16:15 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.moin.txt | 16:15 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.html | 16:15 |
| knome | thanks! | 16:15 |
| knome | i'll get the minutes and logs up later today | 16:15 |
| micahg | hrm, I wanted to add a note about 12.04 SRUs | 16:15 |
| mr_pouit | SRUs for .2: Bug #354830 needs testing (no feedback yet), although if nobody's replying, I guess this wasn't an important issue | 16:15 |
| ubottu | bug 354830 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "xfce4-settings-helper crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_create_instance()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354830 | 16:15 |
| mr_pouit | erf | 16:15 |
| knome | micahg, send that to my email, i'll add it to the minutes | 16:15 |
| knome | bbl -> | 16:16 |
| micahg | oh, I should probably fix the exo helper stuff in precise, it's quite annoying ATM with apparmor enabled in Firefox | 16:16 |
| knome | (and bye and thanks again everybody!) | 16:16 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 16:17 |
| micahg | BTW, separating the langpacks should giive us a bit more room on the images, not sure how much though | 16:32 |
| greenwolf | did i miss the meeting today? | 17:18 |
| greenwolf | does anyone know what time the #Xubuntu community meeting was? | 17:18 |
| bluesabre_ | 15 UTC I think (2 hours, 20 minutes ago) | 17:19 |
| greenwolf | damn i thought that was Pacific time because im in estern | 17:19 |
| bluesabre_ | I'm in eastern too | 17:20 |
| bluesabre_ | 10 am eastern | 17:20 |
| greenwolf | wow i was converting it from 10Pacific time so it would have been 1pm eastern | 17:21 |
| greenwolf | but i guess i was wrong | 17:21 |
| bluesabre_ | Here's the minutes | 17:21 |
| bluesabre_ | http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.html | 17:21 |
| greenwolf | were you here when they were discussing the topics? | 17:21 |
| bluesabre_ | that should have all the important stuff | 17:21 |
| greenwolf | ok thanks | 17:28 |
| bluesabre_ | mr_pouit, glad to see parole 0.4 in the ppa, thanks! | 19:18 |
| ochosi | +1, hopefully that means more bugreports | 19:36 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre_: Testing on quantal help any? And what exactly do you want to be poked at? | 19:51 |
| ochosi | Unit193: you mean parole-testing? | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Yes I do. | 19:52 |
| ochosi | yup, quantal testing is helpful | 19:52 |
| ochosi | we need general testing | 19:52 |
| ochosi | but also specific testing directed at the new features | 19:52 |
| ochosi | (codec-installer, audio-cds, dvds etc) | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | (I always end up purging it as that's the easiest way to unset it as default. :P ) | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | Alright, I can remove a couple gstreamer packages. | 19:53 |
| ochosi | mkay, thanks! | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | By default, it isn't default for mp4 | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | Try to open a webm file and it just sits there. | 20:11 |
| ochosi | does it work with totem? | 20:11 |
| Unit193 | I don't know, I'm testing parole, not totem. ;) | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | It does with VLC and Firefox, if that counts? | 20:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, but i'm wondering whether it's a parole or a gstreamer issue | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | If I remember correctly, Xombrero uses gstreamer and it can play it. | 20:14 |
| ochosi | is xombrero a video-player? | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | Browser. :P | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | gstreamer backend error: Could not read title information for DVD | 20:18 |
| ochosi | i don't see any evidence of xombrero using gstreamer, rather seems it uses external apps like gnome-mplayer | 20:23 |
| Unit193 | Alright. I can browse to the mounted dvd and almost play it, but once you find the correct VOB file, it's a little scrambled. Not sure if gstreamer or parole, though. | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | There are seconds where you can hear and see right. | 20:24 |
| ochosi | hm sounds more like a gst issue but not 100% sure | 20:25 |
| ochosi | unfortunately i don't know of any other gstreamer players than totem you could test it with | 20:25 |
| bluesabre_ | Unit193: do you have libdvdcss2 installed? | 20:27 |
| Unit193 | Of course. | 20:27 |
| bluesabre_ | could you test with a different dvd maybe? | 20:28 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 20:30 |
| Unit193 | Want without region code? | 20:30 |
| bluesabre_ | sure, why not :) | 20:31 |
| Unit193 | First, parole doesn't think I have a disk inserted. (Grey, with "Insert Disk") | 20:35 |
| ochosi | yeah, you need to mount it yourself | 20:35 |
| ochosi | we're assuming ppl are using thunar with automount=yes | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: VLC already played it... | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | I am. | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | Ejected, put back in, selected parole, wait, wait, select Play disk from the menu, gstreamer backend error. | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | Tried something new, the name of the disk pulls up, but this is the terminal output http://0bin.net/paste/2c860eb2d3c8d7e0fd02e10eafb06f9e0e005e05#Gaqq5SVS9163Yh6WQg0bKnGzKOszCix/XCgmMjJ2c/Y= | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | Note, dvd2, which I tried to select, is correct. | 20:40 |
| bluesabre_ | well, the good news is that this is probably not a regression | 20:42 |
| bluesabre_ | but a bug thats never been found | 20:42 |
| bluesabre_ | :D | 20:42 |
| Unit193 | Bleep. | 20:42 |
| bluesabre_ | I'll try to fix that tonight | 20:43 |
| ochosi | dvd's are one of the least-tested things in parole for me | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Sweet, thanks! (For not making me report a bug! :D ) | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Ping me when you want me to reinstall it? | 20:43 |
| bluesabre_ | actually, I just forgot about it | 20:43 |
| bluesabre_ | could you log a bug? | 20:43 |
| bluesabre_ | :) | 20:43 |
| bluesabre_ | Ideally, it shouldn't be too hard to fix | 20:44 |
| bluesabre_ | Unless libdvdread is stupid | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | Is it needed if you're going to fix tonight? Also, what do I put it in? | 20:44 |
| bluesabre_ | cannot play dvd | 20:44 |
| bluesabre_ | and paste that output | 20:44 |
| bluesabre_ | I might be able to fix it tonight, but my schedule is always crap | 20:45 |
| bluesabre_ | and unpredictable | 20:45 |
| Unit193 | Alrighty. | 20:47 |
| Unit193 | Bug #1098323 Sorry for it not being the best report. :P | 20:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1098323 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole failes to play DVD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098323 | 20:52 |
| Unit193 | Oh, is there something I should do about webm? | 20:54 |
| bluesabre_ | thanks Unit193! | 20:59 |
| ochosi | Unit193: maybe file another bug about that | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre_: Sure. | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Not sure it's a bug yet, though. | 20:59 |
| bluesabre_ | alrighty, I should probably do some work while I'm at work today. bbl | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | Adios. | 20:59 |
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