[01:00] knome: for tomorrow's meeting, it'd be nice if gtk-theme-config (shimmer-ppa) could be looked at, and testing for the new display-dialog, thunar1.6.x and mousepad 0.3 (all three from the xfce4.12 ppa) could be scheduled in terms of including it in R. thanks! [01:00] (as i mentioned previously i won't be able to attend tomorrow due to a worktrip) [01:07] I didn't include the new display settings in raring because it's a dev release, but all other things are already in raring [01:07] oh [01:07] and hi! :) [01:08] well still, imo we should get it in [01:08] it's too nice an improvement not to have it imo [01:11] hey, and fine by me, it's our code anyway :P [01:11] hehe [01:12] yeah, so no chance for regressions ;) [01:13] haha [01:15] agreed with all the above [01:15] :) [01:16] :] [01:19] ochosi: thunar 1.6.x and mousepad 0.3 are in raring AFAICT [01:19] micahg: yeah, mr_pouit mentioned that a few minutes above ;) [03:09] Alright, anyone have a *fresh* 13.04 Xubuntu 32bit install? Noskcaj_afk? [05:53] Unit193, no sorry, only a heavily modded xubuntu12.10 amd64 [06:05] Alright, thanks. [08:09] bluesabre, were you able to make it today? [09:53] knome: I should be able to. [09:55] bluesabre, ok, good [09:55] bluesabre, do you have some time before it, like 30mins? [09:56] or 20 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:14] knome: I'll try to be around before. What time is it at again? [14:41] bluesabre_, in 20. :) [14:43] alrighty, I'll be here. :-) [14:43] great [14:43] can i have a quick pm? [14:43] sure [14:58] o/ [14:59] hullo [14:59] :D [14:59] Is there a meeting? [14:59] i'm starting the meeting and going through the formalities [14:59] i'll ask who's around in a bit [14:59] #startmeeting Xubuntu community meetings [14:59] Meeting started Thu Jan 10 14:59:39 2013 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:59] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [14:59] #topic Items carried on [15:00] #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting [15:00] #action knome to draft flyer looks [15:00] ACTION: knome to draft flyer looks [15:00] not happened. [15:00] #chair pleia2 [15:00] Current chairs: knome pleia2 [15:00] so, who's here for the meeting? [15:00] me [15:00] o/ [15:00] raise your hands or sth so you'll get logged [15:01] me [15:01] o/ [15:01] ok, great [15:01] micahg, dingdong [15:01] o/ [15:01] #topic Team updates [15:01] hey jjfrv8 :) [15:01] #subtopic Development [15:01] hi [15:01] micahg, mr_pouit [15:02] i suppose there's a few things that has happened since the start of the R cycle [15:03] ....and we all can still use #action and #info. :) [15:03] #info parole 0.4.0 released, looking for testers (not enough bugs logged on it) [15:03] #info mr_pouit has gotten newer versions of various components into raring [15:03] i'll talk a bit more about testing later [15:04] #info i386 ISO is CD size again (minus fr langpacks) [15:04] but parole getting forward is a good idea! [15:04] err, s/idea/news/ :) [15:04] #info micahg working on rebuild FTBFS failures, mostly related to multiarch python headers [15:05] #action micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) [15:05] ACTION: micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) [15:05] questions or comments? [15:06] #info just for general information, the alpha2 is most probably going to be postponed by a few days (read ubuntu-release archives for more info) [15:06] micahg, is there something that's building up the iso size by a lot again? [15:06] and/or can we expect something like that [15:06] idk, I'd have to compare the manifest from quantal to raring [15:07] but we didn't go over by much anyway? [15:07] we can expect it to increase over time due to new core system deps [15:07] amd64 is only 10MB over [15:07] is there any hopes of getting python2 or sth else big dropped this cycle? [15:07] doubtful [15:07] I should have a python3 catfish in the coming weeks [15:08] ..and/or should we seriously talk about (dropping) langpacks in the next weeks? [15:08] I don't think I'm in a position to do massive python3 porting [15:08] es zh-hans xh pt is all that's left [15:08] we can drop es or pt and probably be CD sized now [15:08] i don't think anybody should take that responsibility alone [15:08] or very close toit [15:09] do we have a general idea what needs to be ported from python2? [15:09] do you think it would make sense to list those, and try to get some people to work on it? [15:09] we've had quite many people interested in helping with xubuntu lately (don't know how many are familiar with python) [15:10] that could create some positive momentum if we had something to point the people to [15:10] I could probably dig up a list, we could see if any of the upstreams of those components have ported to python3 [15:10] so would you be willing to take an official action item for that? [15:10] ;) [15:11] to get the list, sure [15:11] I look forward to seeing that list :) [15:11] #action micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 [15:11] ACTION: micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 [15:11] #action micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 [15:11] ACTION: micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 [15:11] hehe [15:11] well... [15:11] some reminders. [15:11] #action micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds [15:11] ACTION: micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds [15:12] #info we'll see how the python-port list looks like, then reconsider if we should consider dropping langpacks [15:12] anything else? [15:13] mmh [15:13] i don't think that there's anything at this point [15:13] we only have 1 webkit, but 2 GTKs and 2 python2 [15:13] *pythons [15:13] yeah [15:14] i don't think dropping gtk2 is realistic any time soon, that's why i started poking on the python side [15:14] (don't get that wrong...) [15:14] surely not until Xfce is ported [15:14] anyway [15:14] thanks micahg :) [15:14] #subtopic Quality Assurance [15:14] * micahg wants to drop tcl.. [15:14] what's blocking? [15:15] it's a recommends of xchat, but that only gets up half way [15:15] *us [15:15] nothing else is keeping that in? [15:17] I think so [15:17] ok [15:18] #action micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl [15:18] ACTION: micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl [15:18] #nick team [15:18] so QA [15:18] #action knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 [15:18] ACTION: knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 [15:18] #action bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects [15:18] ACTION: bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects [15:19] #info parole 0.4 is out and available in raring, lots of new features and fixes, testers needed [15:19] #info we will do some specific cadence testing before a2 [15:19] #info when a2 is out, we will do more of more general cadence testing [15:20] #action knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing [15:20] ACTION: knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing [15:20] is there anything else in QA? [15:20] questions about testing for R or sth? [15:21] do we want to do another blog post about testing? [15:21] (haven't had a post in a while) [15:21] pleia2, yes. [15:21] i'll switch the subtopic quickly. [15:21] ok, you can action me to draft it after you've sent the mailing list info [15:21] #subtopic Marketing, Promotion and Artwork [15:21] er, info to mailing list [15:22] #action pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML [15:22] ACTION: pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML [15:22] #info we contacted the identi.ca xubuntu group and will be co-admins of that soon [15:22] yay! [15:22] (hopefully :)) [15:22] yeah. [15:23] but no reason why not, if people look at their email [15:23] is there some other social media outlets we should be on? [15:23] i'm not proposing to create anything new, but see if there's something existing we can make official, like the G+ page [15:23] diaspora (lol) [15:23] well, we are on facebook.. [15:24] I haven't seen anything pop up lately [15:24] does anybody in the team have a diaspora account, or how does that stuff even work? :P [15:24] I have one, doesn't really work so well since its decentralized, and all it really seems to be is cat pictures [15:24] ok, so let's not go there [15:25] hehe [15:25] anything else on the subjects? [15:25] any new case badges or anything, pleia2? [15:25] oh [15:25] no new ones, still have a billion of the old ones :) [15:26] #info knome is seriously considering of ordering one more xubuntu t-shirt for testing quality etc [15:26] \o/ [15:26] pleia2, seriously? i've almost given all of mine away.. [15:26] and i don't go into LUG's, see people, or anything like that! [15:26] :P [15:26] I ordered a lot :) [15:27] 100? [15:27] or you did another batch? [15:27] still the 100 [15:27] ok [15:27] holidays here make everyone disappear from events and I've been busy ;) [15:27] heh [15:27] right [15:27] it's the boring general weekday life that does it here [15:28] #info we have someone working on updated screenshots for the website for 12.10 (better late than never!) [15:28] anyway, any other things on m/p/a? [15:28] ooh! [15:28] #info as always, we could use more team members contributing blog posts, you know where to find me :) [15:29] #action team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community [15:29] ACTION: team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community [15:29] I think that's it for mpa [15:29] i've been blogging quite a lot about xubuntu'ish things on my blog and tweeting them with the xubuntu account [15:30] #info if you write about xubuntu (development) on your blog, it's possible to tweet about that @Xubuntu [15:30] I always write a xubuntu review post a few days following release, I'll keep that in mind. [15:30] yup, just remind us [15:31] #info or, if you're on twitter yourself, we can retweet too.. [15:31] #info knome has been retweeting some nice comments for @Xubuntu anyway [15:31] :) [15:31] #subtopic Documentation, Website [15:32] anything on this? [15:32] well, the note about somebody working on the screenshots [15:32] knome, you mentioned considering moving the help documents to yelp at one point [15:32] am i failing on the categoriing again? :) [15:32] +z [15:32] #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-xubuntu-docs [15:32] bluesabre_, right. we should talk about that in #ubuntu-docs [15:32] bluesabre_, somebody there suggested that [15:33] ah [15:33] for being able to have translations and stuff [15:33] bluesabre_, you interested in finding out more about that? [15:33] I might be able to help. I've done some stuff with mallard [15:34] mh [15:34] #action bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff [15:34] ACTION: bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff [15:34] anything else? [15:35] brb [15:35] ok, probably not [15:35] #subtopic General updates [15:35] anything else? [15:36] are we having a default apps discussion at all? [15:36] micahg, hurrrr [15:36] micahg, if you *really* want to :) [15:36] i mean [15:36] the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [15:36] consider this your invite :) [15:37] I'll remind on the day too, 7 days a 1.5 hrs from now [15:37] pleia2, can i consider that as an invite, or should i consider that as a must since i asked for that? [15:37] ;) [15:37] back [15:37] :) [15:37] mousepad [15:37] no, I'd rather not, but maybe there's something we're shipping that's not worthwhile [15:38] so that's more about "dropping things we don't need" than "default applications" talk [15:38] with def apps i'm thinking about somebody wanting to *replace* something [15:38] i think mousepad is a good proposal though [15:39] i mean, in the sense that it's a good proposal to look at it, not taking any side if it's good to include or not (yet) [15:39] I think it should be considered [15:39] micahg, let's schedule some time later to look at the seed togheter [15:39] Its minimalistic, but can actually be used for development [15:39] *together [15:40] #action team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things [15:40] ACTION: team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things [15:40] bluesabre_, leafpad is too, and i suppose that's what you're proposing to replace, so no problem with that. [15:40] bluesabre: we switched to leafpad in oneiric to get rid of xfprint4 [15:40] i there still that dep? [15:40] no [15:41] in mousepad i mean [15:41] no [15:41] ok, then np from my POV [15:42] if we move back to mousepad, i'm wondering if we should create a symlink for leafpad since many people have learnt *that* now [15:42] like me. [15:42] mousepad is a bit bigger [15:42] define "a bit" [15:42] 1 byte? [15:42] 100k [15:42] with a few more deps [15:42] mmh [15:42] let's consider that [15:42] * micahg wonders why an editor needs a dep on dbus [15:42] #action team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad [15:42] ACTION: team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad [15:42] heh [15:43] #topic Announcements [15:43] #subtopic Changes of positions on the Xubuntu team [15:43] #info elfy dropped a line that he can't help in the R cycle; knome will take over the QA-related stuff (again) [15:44] #info The term for XPL ends at the end of this cycle [15:44] #info Since we changed the Strategy Document, the next term will only be 2 (two) releases, since the term is designed to end with an LTS release. [15:45] #info We will be voting on extending the current XPL's term at the end of the cycle; if not extended, a new XPL will serve for two cycles [15:45] anything you want to ask? [15:45] why an extension instead of a new election? [15:45] well, you can consider that as a new election [15:45] or is the new term supposed to be 2 years? [15:46] * micahg supposes he should read the doc [15:46] i'm partly disqualified in this thing [15:46] it used to be 1,5 years [15:46] but that doesn't make sense because it doesn't allow long-term planning (because it doesn't always end with an LTS release) [15:46] so yes, the term is supposed to be 2 years [15:47] but this is the exception, because the overruling rule is that the term should end with an LTS release [15:47] ok, then extending your term to 2.5 years isn't unreasonable [15:47] no, but i'm completely okay with doing a vote, because i changed that thing in the SD myself [15:47] and i think we need to do one [15:47] knome: oh, I agree that it should be put to a vote :) [15:47] there's a slight possibility that i'm saying "i won't!" [15:48] and then you *have to* elect somebody else, like micahg or bluesabre_ [15:48] >:) [15:48] :P [15:48] or pleia2! [15:48] * micahg would vote for pleia2 [15:48] noo [15:48] haha [15:48] hehe [15:48] I'd vote for not me [15:48] i suppose the SD says one must be willing to serve... ;) [15:49] if it doesn't, we should change that before voting... [15:49] lol [15:49] anyway, that's it for announcements [15:49] any other team leads have other announcements? [15:49] pleia2, maybe post the CC invite here with #info? [15:49] if it's still on your history [15:50] right [15:50] #info the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [15:50] thanks [15:50] #topic New and emerging items [15:51] #subtopic Serbian translation for Xfce 4.10 [15:51] micahg? [15:51] what do you want to discuss [15:51] or is this something you should discuss with mr_pouit [15:52] #subtopic Discuss changing Xfce translations to a langpack system similar to KDE (makes it easier to update translations post release) [15:52] that's pretty much the same subject [15:52] sorry, got distracted [15:52] no problem [15:53] we can simply postpone these, if you need other people to discuss with [15:53] i'm completely ok with changing the system if that's easier for you [15:53] well, I'd like mr_pouit's opinion, but I think it might be worthwhile to switch to a Kubuntu style langpacks so that we can update the languages post release more easily [15:53] and i'm completely ok with getting the serbian translation in 13.04, and i'll help if i can [15:54] do we need to do that often / have we done that often / would we have needed to do that more often than we did? [15:54] idk that it's been done before since we don't have the option ATM [15:54] it has or hasn't been done before? :) [15:54] right now, we'd have to reupload everything with the languages in question [15:55] as opposed to one new langpack source [15:55] that doesn't help me understand it thoroughly... but as said, if it makes the maintaining (much) more easy, it's probably worth it [15:56] would you follow up about this with mr_pouit? [15:56] I think overall it does, it just will require a bit of work up front [15:56] (sorry for being late/silent) indeed, language packs are great, I'm still a bit skeptical about the lp/contributors' side. [15:56] yup, but maybe we could get other people to help, if there's some low-hanging fruit [15:56] mr_pouit: not for that reason, we wouldn't end up with LP stuff unless we asked [15:57] or set it up for that, it's more for post release updates from upstream [15:57] oh, great [15:58] so will you both/either of you take an action item for that? [15:58] :] [15:58] mr_pouit: so we can grab stuff like this and update it: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-10/l/af/ [15:59] or this for a better example: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-10/l/sr/ [15:59] micahg: yeah, if we can regularly sync .po from xfce-4.x branches, that's the best way [15:59] (I've done it once for nl.po when pjotr asked, but it's painful to patch each package) [15:59] I'd have to look at how Kubuntu does it [16:00] they have scripts to help and I think KDE upstream ships the languages separately [16:00] mr_pouit: do you think corsac would be open to doing this in Debian? [16:01] it might require patching the various xfce packages to not ship the po files (again, I have to see how Kubuntu handles this) [16:01] not sure he'll be happy about that (patch all packages I mean) [16:02] well, I would think we only want to ship 1 copy of the translations per app [16:03] ubuntu langpacks install somewhere else and use pkgstriptranslations I think, isn't it feasible as well [16:04] +? [16:04] (or only when rosetta/lp is involved?) [16:04] yeah, can be [16:06] so... will you take the needed action items for this? :) [16:06] ok [16:07] thanks [16:07] (I can, although I'm not sure I can give it too much time before february) [16:07] fine then, thanks :P [16:07] no problem [16:08] umm.. would you write the nice little poems yourself? :P [16:09] #action micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack [16:09] ACTION: micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack [16:09] do we need something else? [16:10] that depends on the success of the above [16:10] heh,ok [16:10] #subtopic Schedule next meeting [16:10] two weeks from now sound fine for everybody? [16:11] sure, are we participating in 12.04.2? [16:11] probably [16:11] micahg, why not? [16:11] yeah, that should work for me [16:11] isn't that today [16:11] well, do we have any work that needs to be done? [16:11] oh, kernelfreeze [16:11] i don't think so [16:12] it's Jan 31 [16:12] at least i can't think anything from my head [16:12] we'll have a week [16:12] SRU freeze is next week [16:12] aha [16:12] it's not in the release schedule... for some weird reason [16:12] any urgen SRu pending? [16:12] well, I wanted to fix gvfs in thunar, but I ran into a dead end [16:13] and we wanted to port the docs to 12.04, but that's not happening for .2 [16:13] micahg: the slow startup? [16:13] mr_pouit: no, failure due to transport endpoint [16:13] ah, that too [16:13] then I tried backporting later versions and had issues with that since the dependencies changed [16:14] I think this was fixed when mountpoints moved to /run/$user/... [16:14] (but not in precise) [16:14] so regardless, is meeting in 2 weeks ok? [16:14] i need to go... :) [16:14] that makes sense, they're no longer in an encrypted area [16:15] yes, makes sense [16:15] #info Next Xubuntu community meeting: Jan 24, 15 UTC @#xubuntu-devel [16:15] #endmeetings [16:15] #endmeeting [16:15] Meeting ended Thu Jan 10 16:15:12 2013 UTC. [16:15] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.moin.txt [16:15] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.html [16:15] thanks! [16:15] i'll get the minutes and logs up later today [16:15] hrm, I wanted to add a note about 12.04 SRUs [16:15] SRUs for .2: Bug #354830 needs testing (no feedback yet), although if nobody's replying, I guess this wasn't an important issue [16:15] bug 354830 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "xfce4-settings-helper crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_create_instance()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354830 [16:15] erf [16:15] micahg, send that to my email, i'll add it to the minutes [16:16] bbl -> [16:16] oh, I should probably fix the exo helper stuff in precise, it's quite annoying ATM with apparmor enabled in Firefox [16:16] (and bye and thanks again everybody!) [16:17] thanks :) [16:32] BTW, separating the langpacks should giive us a bit more room on the images, not sure how much though [17:18] did i miss the meeting today? [17:18] does anyone know what time the #Xubuntu community meeting was? [17:19] 15 UTC I think (2 hours, 20 minutes ago) [17:19] damn i thought that was Pacific time because im in estern [17:20] I'm in eastern too [17:20] 10 am eastern [17:21] wow i was converting it from 10Pacific time so it would have been 1pm eastern [17:21] but i guess i was wrong [17:21] Here's the minutes [17:21] http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.html [17:21] were you here when they were discussing the topics? [17:21] that should have all the important stuff [17:28] ok thanks [19:18] mr_pouit, glad to see parole 0.4 in the ppa, thanks! [19:36] +1, hopefully that means more bugreports [19:51] bluesabre_: Testing on quantal help any? And what exactly do you want to be poked at? [19:52] Unit193: you mean parole-testing? [19:52] ochosi: Yes I do. [19:52] yup, quantal testing is helpful [19:52] we need general testing [19:52] but also specific testing directed at the new features [19:53] (codec-installer, audio-cds, dvds etc) [19:53] (I always end up purging it as that's the easiest way to unset it as default. :P ) [19:53] Alright, I can remove a couple gstreamer packages. [19:53] mkay, thanks! [20:07] By default, it isn't default for mp4 [20:11] Try to open a webm file and it just sits there. [20:11] does it work with totem? [20:12] I don't know, I'm testing parole, not totem. ;) [20:12] It does with VLC and Firefox, if that counts? [20:12] yeah, but i'm wondering whether it's a parole or a gstreamer issue [20:14] If I remember correctly, Xombrero uses gstreamer and it can play it. [20:16] is xombrero a video-player? [20:17] Browser. :P [20:18] gstreamer backend error: Could not read title information for DVD [20:23] i don't see any evidence of xombrero using gstreamer, rather seems it uses external apps like gnome-mplayer [20:24] Alright. I can browse to the mounted dvd and almost play it, but once you find the correct VOB file, it's a little scrambled. Not sure if gstreamer or parole, though. [20:24] There are seconds where you can hear and see right. [20:25] hm sounds more like a gst issue but not 100% sure [20:25] unfortunately i don't know of any other gstreamer players than totem you could test it with [20:27] Unit193: do you have libdvdcss2 installed? [20:27] Of course. [20:28] could you test with a different dvd maybe? [20:30] Yep. [20:30] Want without region code? [20:31] sure, why not :) [20:35] First, parole doesn't think I have a disk inserted. (Grey, with "Insert Disk") [20:35] yeah, you need to mount it yourself [20:35] we're assuming ppl are using thunar with automount=yes [20:36] ochosi: VLC already played it... [20:36] I am. [20:38] Ejected, put back in, selected parole, wait, wait, select Play disk from the menu, gstreamer backend error. [20:39] Tried something new, the name of the disk pulls up, but this is the terminal output http://0bin.net/paste/2c860eb2d3c8d7e0fd02e10eafb06f9e0e005e05#Gaqq5SVS9163Yh6WQg0bKnGzKOszCix/XCgmMjJ2c/Y= [20:40] Note, dvd2, which I tried to select, is correct. [20:42] well, the good news is that this is probably not a regression [20:42] but a bug thats never been found [20:42] :D [20:42] Bleep. [20:43] I'll try to fix that tonight [20:43] dvd's are one of the least-tested things in parole for me [20:43] Sweet, thanks! (For not making me report a bug! :D ) [20:43] Ping me when you want me to reinstall it? [20:43] actually, I just forgot about it [20:43] could you log a bug? [20:43] :) [20:44] Ideally, it shouldn't be too hard to fix [20:44] Unless libdvdread is stupid [20:44] Is it needed if you're going to fix tonight? Also, what do I put it in? [20:44] cannot play dvd [20:44] and paste that output [20:45] I might be able to fix it tonight, but my schedule is always crap [20:45] and unpredictable [20:47] Alrighty. [20:52] Bug #1098323 Sorry for it not being the best report. :P [20:52] bug 1098323 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole failes to play DVD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098323 [20:54] Oh, is there something I should do about webm? [20:59] thanks Unit193! [20:59] Unit193: maybe file another bug about that [20:59] bluesabre_: Sure. [20:59] ochosi: Not sure it's a bug yet, though. [20:59] alrighty, I should probably do some work while I'm at work today. bbl [20:59] Adios. === john__ is now known as _j0hn