| aguitel | how make autologin with gdm? | 01:37 |
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| sl33p | hi everybody | 01:49 |
| sl33p | nobody wanna say hi? | 01:54 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| hero616 | My computer is located in local network, is it possible to use it as a Krfb remote control server? | 03:03 |
| === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz | ||
| * S_Mackie tries to read the guidelines, flounders in information overload. | 06:21 | |
| S_Mackie | I have a question, but my head hurts and I'm not sure I have the patience to read all the guidelines. I can't even find anything about how to format my questions! | 06:22 |
| S_Mackie | My apologies. I think I'll browse the self-help. | 06:23 |
| Unit193 | S_Mackie: http://docs.xubuntu.org/ self help? Or something else? ;) | 06:25 |
| * S_Mackie chuckles. | 06:35 | |
| S_Mackie | help.ubuntu.com wasn't giving me much to go on at a glance, but it reminded me of the word GRUB, which is part of my question. | 06:35 |
| S_Mackie | So that helped a lot. | 06:35 |
| S_Mackie | Um. So I just partitioned my hard drive with GParted, shrunk the Windows 7 partition and installed Linux in the new partition. NTFS and Ext4, 100g and 50g, respectively. | 06:36 |
| S_Mackie | Windows works as well as it did before, and the computer freely boots into it. I don't know how to make it boot from the Linux partition, which seems to have a proper file system and all that. | 06:36 |
| S_Mackie | At present, I don't see anything asking which I wish to boot into, and I feel kinda stupid, because somehow I expected the solution to involve CMOS boot settings. | 06:37 |
| Unit193 | Did you install Grub onto the main boot device/partition? | 06:37 |
| S_Mackie | No. | 06:37 |
| S_Mackie | How do I do that? | 06:37 |
| Unit193 | It's in..... | 06:37 |
| Unit193 | !grub | 06:38 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 06:38 |
| S_Mackie | Gracias! | 06:38 |
| * S_Mackie frowns. | 06:38 | |
| Unit193 | Sure. | 06:38 |
| S_Mackie | I didn't lose Grub, as I didn't have it on this box as was. Should the RestoreGrub link suffice to help me with this? | 06:39 |
| Unit193 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing I'd think. | 06:39 |
| S_Mackie | Haha! That does look promising! | 06:39 |
| * S_Mackie pouts. | 06:42 | |
| S_Mackie | Yep. I'm reading this and feeling dumb. I can't seem to find a foothold. Which means this is just not my night for being self-directed. | 06:42 |
| * S_Mackie rereads a bit. | 06:42 | |
| S_Mackie | Correct me if I'm wrong, please: It is very probable there's some manner of GRUB 2 installed on this hard drive, but it's not being called up when I start my computer because it's in the wrong place, most likely because I didn't know how to ask the installation program to set the Linux install I was setting up, in its own new partition, as the OS I wanted the computer to boot into? | 06:44 |
| S_Mackie | Does that sound about right? | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | Well, normally the installer asks if you want to install grub, but I'd guess it could put it in the wrong location. | 06:45 |
| S_Mackie | Odd. It didn't ask at all. | 06:46 |
| S_Mackie | That might explain that. | 06:46 |
| S_Mackie | I'm reasonably certain I'd've said 'yes,' since I recognized the term GRUB despite being more than a bit of a n00b. | 06:47 |
| Unit193 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should in theory be what you have (title isn't the same, but should be the same problem) | 06:48 |
| S_Mackie | Indeed, it didn't leap out at me as the page for my problem for that reason. | 06:49 |
| * S_Mackie chuckles. | 06:49 | |
| Unit193 | S_Mackie: Another thought, do you have EFI? | 06:49 |
| S_Mackie | If I do, I'm not wise enough to be aware of it. | 06:49 |
| S_Mackie | Short answer: Dunno, sorry. | 06:50 |
| Unit193 | http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270285.jpg That'd be a little more what the boot selection would look like (items marked UEFI) | 06:51 |
| S_Mackie | Oooh, pretty. | 06:52 |
| S_Mackie | It doesn't look in the slightest bit familiar, though. | 06:52 |
| Unit193 | Well, I'd either try the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but seems you don't have it. :) | 06:52 |
| S_Mackie | Even better? Looking at the RecoveringUbuntu bla de bla, I'm trying to follow the instructions and not having a superb extent of luck. | 06:53 |
| S_Mackie | Hrm. sudo apt-get time? | 06:53 |
| S_Mackie | Shit. | 06:54 |
| S_Mackie | I was a n00b when I fell out of touch. Is the Ubuntu Software Center equivalent to the Synaptic Package Manager? | 06:54 |
| Unit193 | Eh, a little more "pretty" and shiny. | 06:55 |
| WalterN | koegs: seems the issue is UEFI booting? | 06:55 |
| WalterN | koegs: turned off UEFI and I dont get that error message any more | 06:55 |
| S_Mackie | I can't find any of several variations on "Boot-Repair" in either Ubuntu Software Center or via sudo apt-get, which means I'm at a loss on how to install it. | 06:55 |
| WalterN | something is still wrong, but enh, moving forward I think | 06:55 |
| Unit193 | S_Mackie: Sadly, you have to add a ppa... | 06:56 |
| * S_Mackie blinks dumbly. | 06:56 | |
| Unit193 | WalterN: Secure boot enabled? UEFI doesn't work with 32bit. | 06:56 |
| S_Mackie | A ppa? | 06:56 |
| Unit193 | S_Mackie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install boot-repair | 06:57 |
| S_Mackie | Oh thank you. That's much better. | 06:57 |
| WalterN | Unit193: secure boot... on the tftp server? | 06:57 |
| WalterN | or in the EFI settings? | 06:57 |
| Unit193 | Hrm, it appears I missed more than I thought, nevermind me.... In the settings, though. | 06:58 |
| WalterN | regardless, it is a 64bit netboot | 06:58 |
| S_Mackie | "UEFI doesn't work with 32bit." Does that mean my 32 bit hardware in this box is not something that will be playing nice with UEFI? | 06:58 |
| Unit193 | 32Bit version of Ubuntu* | 06:59 |
| S_Mackie | Oh. ... Would there be any reason I'd try to use a 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my 32 bit box? | 06:59 |
| Unit193 | Bug #1025555' | 07:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1025555 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu32bits is incompatible with EFI computers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025555 | 07:00 |
| Unit193 | Well, most newer computers should be 64bit, but support 32 of course. | 07:00 |
| S_Mackie | Mine's just slightly too primitive. | 07:00 |
| S_Mackie | Hell, I'm running a SBLive! card that just doesn't seem to like Windows. | 07:01 |
| S_Mackie | So far, so good. | 07:02 |
| S_Mackie | It gave me a URL, which I've copied down, and I shall now restart my computer and see what happens. | 07:04 |
| S_Mackie | Thank you, Unit193. I'll be back in some manner. | 07:04 |
| Unit193 | Hope it helps. | 07:05 |
| WalterN | http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-5083034 | 07:06 |
| WalterN | something like that might be my issue | 07:06 |
| S_Mackie | So! Partial victory. I now no longer can boot into Windows, but my Windows install was really quite borked anyway. | 07:12 |
| S_Mackie | A victory in the sense that this is a being run from the Linux partition. | 07:13 |
| S_Mackie | Now let's see if I can find a page to help me get access to Windows again. | 07:15 |
| WalterN | woo | 07:16 |
| WalterN | I win | 07:16 |
| WalterN | PXE boot HO! | 07:17 |
| koegs | WalterN: top :) | 07:20 |
| WalterN | koegs: top what? | 07:21 |
| * S_Mackie groans. | 07:25 | |
| S_Mackie | Aaaand I get to go back to Boot-Repair. | 07:25 |
| koegs | WalterN: more like "good to hear" | 07:25 |
| WalterN | koegs: it must have been something to do with the UEFI on my laptop... *shrug* | 07:27 |
| WalterN | changed it to 'legacy' insead of UEFI | 07:27 |
| WalterN | now I just need to think of a name for this... maybe fluttershy or something | 07:28 |
| S_Mackie | X| | 07:36 |
| S_Mackie | I've "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update"d, and now I can't seem to get it to run the program. | 07:37 |
| Unit193 | That's because you didn't install it. :) Also, if trying to add the windows partition, try os-prober? | 07:38 |
| S_Mackie | os-prober. Okay. | 07:38 |
| S_Mackie | /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain | /dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows1:chain | 07:39 |
| Unit193 | Now sudo update-grub | 07:41 |
| WalterN | koegs: any reason why PXE would not work with UEFI? | 07:41 |
| S_Mackie | Huh. Okay. | 07:42 |
| S_Mackie | Generating grub.cfg ... <br> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic <br> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic <br> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin <br> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1 <br> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda2 <br> done | 07:43 |
| S_Mackie | Does that mean it should be fixed now? I confess, I'm a bit lost. | 07:43 |
| S_Mackie | "Generating" seems like it's a good sign... | 07:45 |
| S_Mackie | I shall have to test this shortly. | 07:49 |
| Unit193 | Looks good to me. :) | 07:50 |
| S_Mackie | Boy I hope so, 'cause much as that Windows install has annoyed the jeepers out of me with its constant hanging, and its broad and utter incompatibility with my hardware and peripherals, I still want it to work some day. | 07:52 |
| S_Mackie | A condition much easier to achieve if I can boot into it. | 07:52 |
| S_Mackie | HOLY CRAP AWESOME! | 07:56 |
| S_Mackie | Er, sorry. For the first time in months, this computer can play music. | 07:56 |
| kadence | how to install xubuntu from a USB stick? | 07:57 |
| Unit193 | !usb | two different ways | 07:57 |
| ubottu | two different ways: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 07:57 |
| kadence | thank you | 07:57 |
| Unit193 | Sure, you on windows now? | 07:58 |
| * S_Mackie shall assume Unit is talking to ubottu. | 07:58 | |
| WalterN | lol | 07:58 |
| Unit193 | ubottu: is a bot | 07:59 |
| ubottu | Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information. | 07:59 |
| Unit193 | http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download is the best by far if you are on windows and want to make a bootable flash. | 07:59 |
| * S_Mackie shall assume Unit193 is talking to kadence. | 07:59 | |
| S_Mackie | No soap. Windows remains inaccessible for the time being. | 08:13 |
| Unit193 | Did you see a boot menu? | 08:13 |
| S_Mackie | Yes. | 08:29 |
| S_Mackie | (Sorry, Unit193, my 17 month old child suddenly became very, very needy.) | 08:29 |
| S_Mackie | Whiskey bravo, Kadence. | 08:40 |
| kadence | hello | 08:44 |
| kadence | i followed the usb installation thingy | 08:45 |
| kadence | the installation is stuck at 'preparing to install' | 08:45 |
| kadence | halp. | 08:45 |
| * kadence pokes S_Mackie | 08:46 | |
| S_Mackie | I noticed your cry for help, but I'm afraid I'm an idiot. | 08:46 |
| S_Mackie | I am here to ask very basic questions. | 08:46 |
| kadence | oh dear | 08:46 |
| S_Mackie | In fact, we've been sharing Unit193. | 08:47 |
| kadence | have we now.. | 08:47 |
| * kadence pokes Unit193 | 08:47 | |
| knome | kadence, please don't poke random people randomly. if somebody is here to help, they will help you | 08:48 |
| kadence | mk | 08:48 |
| knome | thanks for understanding | 08:48 |
| S_Mackie | What an interesting reaction. | 08:48 |
| S_Mackie | Turing test! | 08:50 |
| S_Mackie | Inconclusive. | 08:50 |
| knome | S_Mackie, please keep the irrelevant talk to #xubuntu-offtopic | 08:57 |
| S_Mackie | My apologies, knome. | 08:57 |
| knome | again... thansk for understanding | 08:58 |
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| aguitel | i installed minimal xfce ,how launch jockey-gtk ? | 11:39 |
| bazhang | install it first | 11:41 |
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| === azeam_afk is now known as azeam | ||
| nantou | there are 4 defective blocks in my local HDD, how bad is it and how do I fix it? | 15:05 |
| nantou | I used sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda | 15:06 |
| nantou | can anyone confirm if that has to do with the low transfer speeds I get from local HDD to external HDD? ext4 for both units | 15:06 |
| koegs | nantou: badblocks are hardware errors, you cannot fix them | 15:07 |
| koegs | you should think about replacing the hdd | 15:07 |
| Yotson | and in case you don't do backups. Think about that as well. ;) | 15:08 |
| nantou | koegs, so a nuking wont fix it... | 15:09 |
| nantou | or a fresh install | 15:09 |
| koegs | nope | 15:09 |
| nantou | why do hardware errors appear? | 15:10 |
| nantou | defective shut downs¿ | 15:10 |
| nantou | ? | 15:10 |
| baizon | nantou: no it happens when a HDD is old | 15:14 |
| baizon | or when they get "buggy" | 15:14 |
| nantou | i see | 15:14 |
| nantou | how often should I change HDD's then? | 15:15 |
| baizon | i had 3 Segeate HDD which where broken after 6 months | 15:15 |
| baizon | my current WD HDD is 1 year old | 15:15 |
| baizon | nantou: well it depends. I personally switch my HDD every 3 years | 15:17 |
| Yotson | i do regular backups, a copy in house and a copy to my parents place(and vice versa). i use the hdd until it fails. | 15:20 |
| Yotson | stuff fails, try to limit the damage when it does. XD | 15:21 |
| nantou | 3 years... my oldes HDD is that old too IIRC | 15:26 |
| nimo | xfce will automatically save applications from my last logout and start them at login,,, I DONT want that... there's no option to turn it off? any hack? | 15:27 |
| baizon | nimo: yes there is an option | 15:27 |
| nantou | what app do I use for backups? | 15:27 |
| nantou | im xubuntu 12.10 | 15:27 |
| nimo | baizon, how do you disable this auto save? | 15:28 |
| baizon | nimo: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences | 15:29 |
| baizon | under logout settings | 15:30 |
| baizon | nantou: you can try http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/ | 15:30 |
| nimo | baizon, automatically save sessions on logout is not enabled.... | 15:31 |
| baizon | nimo: then please read this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5246 | 15:32 |
| nimo | baizon, ok ill try that.... remove all content in that dir of make the dir unreachable | 15:34 |
| baizon | remove the content | 15:34 |
| nimo | ok brb | 15:35 |
| nimo | baizon, I think it works... thx dude | 15:39 |
| baizon | np | 15:39 |
| mondgefluester | hi =) | 15:53 |
| mondgefluester | i have some problems with my VLC reading a CD | 15:54 |
| holstein | mondgefluester: i would teak vlc out of the equation.. see that the disc is mounting.. see that you see it with a file manager.. then move on to codec support | 15:59 |
| TheSheep | holstein: audio cds don't mount | 15:59 |
| mondgefluester | ok thanks, but it seems i just forgot the restricted extras :D | 16:00 |
| TheSheep | mondgefluester: as far as I know, you don't even need an operating system for the cd drive to play an audio cd | 16:01 |
| TheSheep | mondgefluester: it's done in hardware | 16:01 |
| mondgefluester | TheSheep, it plays the cd, but doesn't save it | 16:02 |
| TheSheep | mondgefluester: "save it"? | 16:04 |
| TheSheep | mondgefluester: if you want to rip it, try soundjuicer | 16:05 |
| mondgefluester | doesn't matter, solved the problem already | 16:05 |
| mondgefluester | thank you =) | 16:05 |
| mondgefluester | i'll try if it fails, but right now it seems to be working | 16:05 |
| holstein | extracting or ripping is the term.. if you search | 16:06 |
| Peyam | Hi | 16:22 |
| Peyam | xubuntu doesnt show my ipod | 16:23 |
| Peyam | when I plugg it in | 16:23 |
| Peyam | what isthe problem? | 16:23 |
| Peyam | Any body? | 16:32 |
| baizon | Peyam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod | 16:36 |
| Peyam | Thanks | 16:39 |
| baizon | np | 16:40 |
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| xubuntu711 | hello | 17:02 |
| Peyam | hello | 17:04 |
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| === Catbuntu is now known as catbuntu | ||
| === catbuntu is now known as Catbuntu | ||
| === Catbuntu is now known as Nancys | ||
| S_Mackie | So, I installed GRUB and Boot-Repaired it. Windows is seen, Linux boots fine. When I try to boot into Windows, though, it just bounces back to the ram test. | 18:58 |
| S_Mackie | Why is that? How do I fix it? | 18:58 |
| holstein | S_Mackie: do you have a few entries for windows? | 18:59 |
| S_Mackie | Yes. Not sure why. | 18:59 |
| Unit193 | Should have one main entry, then a recovery. | 18:59 |
| S_Mackie | Not marked accordingly. Sadly, I wasn't smart enough to write down the actual names of the entries. | 19:00 |
| holstein | S_Mackie: sometimes i just try the others, knowing that one might be "recovery".. being careful not to start that recovery process | 19:00 |
| holstein | S_Mackie: i dont trust the labels anyways | 19:00 |
| S_Mackie | I tried both, as they're identical on the face of it. | 19:00 |
| S_Mackie | They had the same result. | 19:00 |
| holstein | S_Mackie: was windows 'working" before? did you boot it after shrinking the partition before installing? | 19:01 |
| S_Mackie | Yes. | 19:01 |
| S_Mackie | In fact, until I deliberately installed GRUB, the computer still only booted into Windows. | 19:01 |
| holstein | so, you shrank windows.. booted.. test, and it worked? correct? | 19:01 |
| S_Mackie | Worked as well (and poorly) as before, yes. | 19:02 |
| S_Mackie | (Not a Windows joke. It's been giving me no end of trouble.) | 19:02 |
| holstein | S_Mackie: have you tried to just do it again? | 19:02 |
| S_Mackie | Just reinstall GRUB again? | 19:02 |
| S_Mackie | Or do you mean the repartitioning? | 19:02 |
| holstein | S_Mackie: well, if its been "trouble", this wont fix it.. you could be stumbling onto the larger issue here | 19:02 |
| S_Mackie | The trouble hasn't ever been in booting, and may have more to do with Adobe and legacy sound cards. | 19:03 |
| holstein | bad filesystem.. bad hard drive, or memory.. anyways, im talking about reinstalling grub | 19:03 |
| S_Mackie | I'm almost certain I have a browser tab for that. | 19:05 |
| S_Mackie | Hrm. Do I use boot-repair for that? | 19:06 |
| holstein | !grub | S_Mackie | 19:06 |
| ubottu | S_Mackie: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 19:06 |
| holstein | i always have to refer back to that wiki page... i usually do it with a live CD | 19:06 |
| S_Mackie | Hrm. I do have a live CD. | 19:07 |
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| alegen | good evening (to europeans at least). i used dd to write a raspbian image to an SD card. now when i try to sudo mount it i don`t know which filesystem to use. none of them seem to work... anyone who can give me an idea? | 19:23 |
| leoquant | alegen, whats a raspbian image? ツ | 19:25 |
| holstein | alegen: i would try ext... and i would ask the raspbian team what is expected if that doesnt work | 19:25 |
| holstein | alegen: mabye the imagne doesnt support DD-ing | 19:25 |
| alegen | raspbian is debian for raspberry pi :P | 19:25 |
| leoquant | ah, geeky :P | 19:26 |
| alegen | holstein: the tutorial on their website says to use dd... i will try again with ext and if not ask on the forums. thanks though :) | 19:26 |
| S_Mackie | Damn, now I have irrelevant questions./ | 19:26 |
| leoquant | S_Mackie, thats better than irrelevant answers | 19:27 |
| S_Mackie | Fair enough. | 19:27 |
| alegen | lol | 19:28 |
| leoquant | the unanswered question==> charles ives | 19:29 |
| leoquant | makes you feel goof | 19:29 |
| leoquant | f?==>g | 19:29 |
| leoquant | g?==>d | 19:29 |
| leoquant | : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkFgIMC-Ks | 19:30 |
| S_Mackie | Okay, I'm'a take off for now, try this thing. | 19:30 |
| S_Mackie | Sorry, good sir. I'm trying to fix a broken GRUB. | 19:39 |
| S_Mackie | So, if I use Boot-Repair again, it should fix what ails me where it broke it last time? | 19:48 |
| S_Mackie | If not, things are about to get weird. | 19:51 |
| * S_Mackie pouts. | 19:56 | |
| S_Mackie | No soap. | 19:56 |
| S_Mackie | I feel like a ditz. How do I get my present install's version number? | 19:58 |
| Unit193 | lsb_release -r | 20:00 |
| S_Mackie | 12.10! Thanks. | 20:00 |
| S_Mackie | Apparently slightly old. | 20:01 |
| S_Mackie | I'm idling now. Thanks for your help! | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | S_Mackie: 12.10 is current. | 20:02 |
| S_Mackie | Oh. Silly me, I can't read for shit lately. | 20:02 |
| S_Mackie | Again, thank you. | 20:02 |
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| YO | hello | 23:07 |
| YO | tips on removing xscreensaver and replacing it with gnome-screensaver? | 23:07 |
| holstein | YO: i would just install the screensaver i want, and not worry about removing the old one | 23:11 |
| YO | its not the screensaver, its the fact that when i wake up from sleep I get the grey, ugly Windows 95 prompt bpxes | 23:12 |
| holstein | YO: i dont use it the sceensaver to lock my screen. but, its the screenlocker you are talking about | 23:13 |
| YO | oh ok | 23:14 |
| xubuntu91 | ; | 23:21 |
| magiK_ | I just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop - I'm loving it ;) | 23:42 |
| magiK_ | So now I have a choice to run Unity, GNOME, GNOME Classic, XFCE or Xubuntu (XFCE) nice nice nice I love linux | 23:43 |
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