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aguitelhow make autologin with gdm?01:37
sl33phi everybody01:49
sl33pnobody wanna say hi?01:54
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hero616My computer is located in local network, is it possible to use it as a Krfb remote control server?03:03
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* S_Mackie tries to read the guidelines, flounders in information overload.06:21
S_MackieI have a question, but my head hurts and I'm not sure I have the patience to read all the guidelines. I can't even find anything about how to format my questions!06:22
S_MackieMy apologies. I think I'll browse the self-help.06:23
Unit193S_Mackie: http://docs.xubuntu.org/ self help?  Or something else? ;)06:25
* S_Mackie chuckles.06:35
S_Mackiehelp.ubuntu.com wasn't giving me much to go on at a glance, but it reminded me of the word GRUB, which is part of my question.06:35
S_MackieSo that helped a lot.06:35
S_MackieUm. So I just partitioned my hard drive with GParted, shrunk the Windows 7 partition and installed Linux in the new partition. NTFS and Ext4, 100g and 50g, respectively.06:36
S_MackieWindows works as well as it did before, and the computer freely boots into it. I don't know how to make it boot from the Linux partition, which seems to have a proper file system and all that.06:36
S_MackieAt present, I don't see anything asking which I wish to boot into, and I feel kinda stupid, because somehow I expected the solution to involve CMOS boot settings.06:37
Unit193Did you install Grub onto the main boot device/partition?06:37
S_MackieNo.06:37
S_MackieHow do I do that?06:37
Unit193It's in.....06:37
Unit193!grub06:38
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)06:38
S_MackieGracias!06:38
* S_Mackie frowns.06:38
Unit193Sure.06:38
S_MackieI didn't lose Grub, as I didn't have it on this box as was. Should the RestoreGrub link suffice to help me with this?06:39
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing I'd think.06:39
S_MackieHaha! That does look promising!06:39
* S_Mackie pouts.06:42
S_MackieYep. I'm reading this and feeling dumb. I can't seem to find a foothold. Which means this is just not my night for being self-directed.06:42
* S_Mackie rereads a bit.06:42
S_MackieCorrect me if I'm wrong, please: It is very probable there's some manner of GRUB 2 installed on this hard drive, but it's not being called up when I start my computer because it's in the wrong place, most likely because I didn't know how to ask the installation program to set the Linux install I was setting up, in its own new partition, as the OS I wanted the computer to boot into?06:44
S_MackieDoes that sound about right?06:45
Unit193Well, normally the installer asks if you want to install grub, but I'd guess it could put it in the wrong location.06:45
S_MackieOdd. It didn't ask at all.06:46
S_MackieThat might explain that.06:46
S_MackieI'm reasonably certain I'd've said 'yes,' since I recognized the term GRUB despite being more than a bit of a n00b.06:47
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should in theory be what you have (title isn't the same, but should be the same problem)06:48
S_MackieIndeed, it didn't leap out at me as the page for my problem for that reason.06:49
* S_Mackie chuckles.06:49
Unit193S_Mackie: Another thought, do you have EFI?06:49
S_MackieIf I do, I'm not wise enough to be aware of it.06:49
S_MackieShort answer: Dunno, sorry.06:50
Unit193http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270285.jpg  That'd be a little more what the boot selection would look like (items marked UEFI)06:51
S_MackieOooh, pretty.06:52
S_MackieIt doesn't look in the slightest bit familiar, though.06:52
Unit193Well, I'd either try the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but seems you don't have it. :)06:52
S_MackieEven better? Looking at the RecoveringUbuntu bla de bla, I'm trying to follow the instructions and not having a superb extent of luck.06:53
S_MackieHrm. sudo apt-get time?06:53
S_MackieShit.06:54
S_MackieI was a n00b when I fell out of touch. Is the Ubuntu Software Center equivalent to the Synaptic Package Manager?06:54
Unit193Eh, a little more "pretty" and shiny.06:55
WalterNkoegs: seems the issue is UEFI booting?06:55
WalterNkoegs: turned off UEFI and I dont get that error message any more06:55
S_MackieI can't find any of several variations on "Boot-Repair" in either Ubuntu Software Center or via sudo apt-get, which means I'm at a loss on how to install it.06:55
WalterNsomething is still wrong, but enh, moving forward I think06:55
Unit193S_Mackie: Sadly, you have to add a ppa...06:56
* S_Mackie blinks dumbly.06:56
Unit193WalterN: Secure boot enabled?  UEFI doesn't work with 32bit.06:56
S_MackieA ppa?06:56
Unit193S_Mackie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install boot-repair06:57
S_MackieOh thank you. That's much better.06:57
WalterNUnit193: secure boot... on the tftp server?06:57
WalterNor in the EFI settings?06:57
Unit193Hrm, it appears I missed more than I thought, nevermind me.... In the settings, though.06:58
WalterNregardless, it is a 64bit netboot06:58
S_Mackie"UEFI doesn't work with 32bit." Does that mean my 32 bit hardware in this box is not something that will be playing nice with UEFI?06:58
Unit19332Bit version of Ubuntu*06:59
S_MackieOh. ... Would there be any reason I'd try to use a 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my 32 bit box?06:59
Unit193Bug #1025555'07:00
ubottubug 1025555 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu32bits is incompatible with EFI computers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102555507:00
Unit193Well, most newer computers should be 64bit, but support 32 of course.07:00
S_MackieMine's just slightly too primitive.07:00
S_MackieHell, I'm running a SBLive! card that just doesn't seem to like Windows.07:01
S_MackieSo far, so good.07:02
S_MackieIt gave me a URL, which I've copied down, and I shall now restart my computer and see what happens.07:04
S_MackieThank you, Unit193. I'll be back in some manner.07:04
Unit193Hope it helps.07:05
WalterNhttp://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-508303407:06
WalterNsomething like that might be my issue07:06
S_MackieSo! Partial victory. I now no longer can boot into Windows, but my Windows install was really quite borked anyway.07:12
S_MackieA victory in the sense that this is a being run from the Linux partition.07:13
S_MackieNow let's see if I can find a page to help me get access to Windows again.07:15
WalterNwoo07:16
WalterNI win07:16
WalterNPXE boot HO!07:17
koegsWalterN: top :)07:20
WalterNkoegs: top what?07:21
* S_Mackie groans.07:25
S_MackieAaaand I get to go back to Boot-Repair.07:25
koegsWalterN: more like "good to hear"07:25
WalterNkoegs: it must have been something to do with the UEFI on my laptop... *shrug*07:27
WalterNchanged it to 'legacy' insead of UEFI07:27
WalterNnow I just need to think of a name for this... maybe fluttershy or something07:28
S_MackieX|07:36
S_MackieI've "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update"d, and now I can't seem to get it to run the program.07:37
Unit193That's because you didn't install it. :)   Also, if trying to add the windows partition, try os-prober?07:38
S_Mackieos-prober. Okay.07:38
S_Mackie/dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain | /dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows1:chain07:39
Unit193Now sudo update-grub07:41
WalterNkoegs: any reason why PXE would not work with UEFI?07:41
S_MackieHuh. Okay.07:42
S_MackieGenerating grub.cfg ... <br> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic <br> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic <br> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin <br> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1 <br> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda2 <br> done07:43
S_MackieDoes that mean it should be fixed now? I confess, I'm a bit lost.07:43
S_Mackie"Generating" seems like it's a good sign...07:45
S_MackieI shall have to test this shortly.07:49
Unit193Looks good to me. :)07:50
S_MackieBoy I hope so, 'cause much as that Windows install has annoyed the jeepers out of me with its constant hanging, and its broad and utter incompatibility with my hardware and peripherals, I still want it to work some day.07:52
S_MackieA condition much easier to achieve if I can boot into it.07:52
S_MackieHOLY CRAP AWESOME!07:56
S_MackieEr, sorry. For the first time in months, this computer can play music.07:56
kadencehow to install xubuntu from a USB stick?07:57
Unit193!usb | two different ways07:57
ubottutwo different ways: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent07:57
kadencethank you07:57
Unit193Sure, you on windows now?07:58
* S_Mackie shall assume Unit is talking to ubottu.07:58
WalterNlol07:58
Unit193ubottu: is a bot07:59
ubottuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information.07:59
Unit193http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download is the best by far if you are on windows and want to make a bootable flash.07:59
* S_Mackie shall assume Unit193 is talking to kadence.07:59
S_MackieNo soap. Windows remains inaccessible for the time being.08:13
Unit193Did you see a boot menu?08:13
S_MackieYes.08:29
S_Mackie(Sorry, Unit193, my 17 month old child suddenly became very, very needy.)08:29
S_MackieWhiskey bravo, Kadence.08:40
kadencehello08:44
kadencei followed the usb installation thingy08:45
kadencethe installation is stuck at 'preparing to install'08:45
kadencehalp.08:45
* kadence pokes S_Mackie 08:46
S_MackieI noticed your cry for help, but I'm afraid I'm an idiot.08:46
S_MackieI am here to ask very basic questions.08:46
kadenceoh dear08:46
S_MackieIn fact, we've been sharing Unit193.08:47
kadencehave we now..08:47
* kadence pokes Unit193 08:47
knomekadence, please don't poke random people randomly. if somebody is here to help, they will help you08:48
kadencemk08:48
knomethanks for understanding08:48
S_MackieWhat an interesting reaction.08:48
S_MackieTuring test!08:50
S_MackieInconclusive.08:50
knomeS_Mackie, please keep the irrelevant talk to #xubuntu-offtopic08:57
S_MackieMy apologies, knome.08:57
knomeagain... thansk for understanding08:58
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aguiteli installed minimal xfce ,how launch jockey-gtk ?11:39
bazhanginstall it first11:41
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nantouthere are 4 defective blocks in my local HDD, how bad is it and how do I fix it?15:05
nantouI used sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda15:06
nantoucan anyone confirm if that has to do with the low transfer speeds I get from local HDD to external HDD? ext4 for both units15:06
koegsnantou: badblocks are hardware errors, you cannot fix them15:07
koegsyou should think about replacing the hdd15:07
Yotsonand in case you don't do backups. Think about that as well. ;)15:08
nantoukoegs, so a nuking wont fix it...15:09
nantouor a fresh install15:09
koegsnope15:09
nantouwhy do hardware errors appear?15:10
nantoudefective shut downs¿15:10
nantou?15:10
baizonnantou: no it happens when a HDD is old15:14
baizonor when they get "buggy"15:14
nantoui see15:14
nantouhow often should I change HDD's then?15:15
baizoni had 3 Segeate HDD which where broken after 6 months15:15
baizonmy current WD HDD is 1 year old15:15
baizonnantou: well it depends. I personally switch my HDD every 3 years15:17
Yotsoni do regular backups, a copy in house and a copy to my parents place(and vice versa). i use the hdd until it fails.15:20
Yotsonstuff fails, try to limit the damage when it does. XD15:21
nantou3 years... my oldes HDD is that old too IIRC15:26
nimoxfce will automatically save applications from my last logout and start them at login,,, I DONT want that... there's no option to turn it off?  any hack?15:27
baizonnimo: yes there is an option15:27
nantouwhat app do I use for backups?15:27
nantouim xubuntu 12.1015:27
nimobaizon, how do you disable this auto save?15:28
baizonnimo: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences15:29
baizonunder logout settings15:30
baizonnantou: you can try http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/15:30
nimobaizon, automatically save sessions on logout is not enabled....15:31
baizonnimo: then please read this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=524615:32
nimobaizon, ok ill try that.... remove all content in that dir of make the dir unreachable15:34
baizonremove the content15:34
nimook brb15:35
nimobaizon, I think it works... thx dude15:39
baizonnp15:39
mondgefluesterhi =)15:53
mondgefluesteri have some problems with my VLC reading a CD15:54
holsteinmondgefluester: i would teak vlc out of the equation.. see that the disc is mounting.. see that you see it with a file manager.. then move on to codec support15:59
TheSheepholstein: audio cds don't mount15:59
mondgefluesterok thanks, but it seems i just forgot the restricted extras :D16:00
TheSheepmondgefluester: as far as I know, you don't even need an operating system for the cd drive to play an audio cd16:01
TheSheepmondgefluester: it's done in hardware16:01
mondgefluesterTheSheep, it plays the cd, but doesn't save it16:02
TheSheepmondgefluester: "save it"?16:04
TheSheepmondgefluester: if you want to rip it, try soundjuicer16:05
mondgefluesterdoesn't matter, solved the problem already16:05
mondgefluesterthank you =)16:05
mondgefluesteri'll try if it fails, but  right now it seems to be working16:05
holsteinextracting or ripping is the term.. if you search16:06
PeyamHi16:22
Peyamxubuntu doesnt show my ipod16:23
Peyamwhen I plugg it in16:23
Peyamwhat isthe problem?16:23
PeyamAny body?16:32
baizonPeyam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod16:36
PeyamThanks16:39
baizonnp16:40
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xubuntu711hello17:02
Peyamhello17:04
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S_MackieSo, I installed GRUB and Boot-Repaired it. Windows is seen, Linux boots fine. When I try to boot into Windows, though, it just bounces back to the ram test.18:58
S_MackieWhy is that? How do I fix it?18:58
holsteinS_Mackie: do you have a few entries for windows?18:59
S_MackieYes. Not sure why.18:59
Unit193Should have one main entry, then a recovery.18:59
S_MackieNot marked accordingly. Sadly, I wasn't smart enough to write down the actual names of the entries.19:00
holsteinS_Mackie: sometimes i just try the others, knowing that one might be "recovery".. being careful not to start that recovery process19:00
holsteinS_Mackie: i dont trust the labels anyways19:00
S_MackieI tried both, as they're identical on the face of it.19:00
S_MackieThey had the same result.19:00
holsteinS_Mackie: was windows 'working" before? did you boot it after shrinking the partition before installing?19:01
S_MackieYes.19:01
S_MackieIn fact, until I deliberately installed GRUB, the computer still only booted into Windows.19:01
holsteinso, you shrank windows.. booted.. test, and it worked? correct?19:01
S_MackieWorked as well (and poorly) as before, yes.19:02
S_Mackie(Not a Windows joke. It's been giving me no end of trouble.)19:02
holsteinS_Mackie: have you tried to just do it again?19:02
S_MackieJust reinstall GRUB again?19:02
S_MackieOr do you mean the repartitioning?19:02
holsteinS_Mackie: well, if its been "trouble", this wont fix it.. you could be stumbling onto the larger issue here19:02
S_MackieThe trouble hasn't ever been in booting, and may have more to do with Adobe and legacy sound cards.19:03
holsteinbad filesystem.. bad hard drive, or memory.. anyways, im talking about reinstalling grub19:03
S_MackieI'm almost certain I have a browser tab for that.19:05
S_MackieHrm. Do I use boot-repair for that?19:06
holstein!grub | S_Mackie19:06
ubottuS_Mackie: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:06
holsteini always have to refer back to that wiki page... i usually do it with a live CD19:06
S_MackieHrm. I do have a live CD.19:07
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alegengood evening (to europeans at least). i used dd to write a raspbian image to an SD card. now when i try to sudo mount it i don`t know which filesystem to use. none of them seem to work... anyone who can give me an idea?19:23
leoquantalegen, whats a raspbian image? ツ19:25
holsteinalegen: i would try ext... and i would ask the raspbian team what is expected if that doesnt work19:25
holsteinalegen: mabye the imagne doesnt support DD-ing19:25
alegenraspbian is debian for raspberry pi :P19:25
leoquantah, geeky :P19:26
alegenholstein: the tutorial on their website says to use dd... i will try again with ext and if not ask on the forums. thanks though :)19:26
S_MackieDamn, now I have irrelevant questions./19:26
leoquantS_Mackie, thats better than irrelevant answers19:27
S_MackieFair enough.19:27
alegenlol19:28
leoquantthe unanswered question==> charles ives19:29
leoquantmakes you feel goof19:29
leoquantf?==>g19:29
leoquantg?==>d19:29
leoquant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkFgIMC-Ks19:30
S_MackieOkay, I'm'a take off for now, try this thing.19:30
S_MackieSorry, good sir. I'm trying to fix a broken GRUB.19:39
S_MackieSo, if I use Boot-Repair again, it should fix what ails me where it broke it last time?19:48
S_MackieIf not, things are about to get weird.19:51
* S_Mackie pouts.19:56
S_MackieNo soap.19:56
S_MackieI feel like a ditz. How do I get my present install's version number?19:58
Unit193lsb_release -r20:00
S_Mackie12.10! Thanks.20:00
S_MackieApparently slightly old.20:01
S_MackieI'm idling now. Thanks for your help!20:01
Unit193S_Mackie: 12.10 is current.20:02
S_MackieOh. Silly me, I can't read for shit lately.20:02
S_MackieAgain, thank you.20:02
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YOhello23:07
YOtips on removing xscreensaver and replacing it with gnome-screensaver?23:07
holsteinYO: i would just install the screensaver i want, and not worry about removing the old one23:11
YOits not the screensaver, its the fact that when i wake up from sleep I get the grey, ugly Windows 95 prompt bpxes23:12
holsteinYO: i dont use it the sceensaver to lock my screen. but, its the screenlocker you are talking about23:13
YOoh ok23:14
xubuntu91;23:21
magiK_I just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop -  I'm loving it ;)23:42
magiK_So now I have a choice to run Unity, GNOME, GNOME Classic, XFCE or Xubuntu (XFCE) nice nice nice I love linux23:43
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