[01:37] <aguitel> how make autologin with gdm?
[01:49] <sl33p> hi everybody
[01:54] <sl33p> nobody wanna say hi?
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[03:03] <hero616> My computer is located in local network, is it possible to use it as a Krfb remote control server?
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[06:21]  * S_Mackie tries to read the guidelines, flounders in information overload.
[06:22] <S_Mackie> I have a question, but my head hurts and I'm not sure I have the patience to read all the guidelines. I can't even find anything about how to format my questions!
[06:23] <S_Mackie> My apologies. I think I'll browse the self-help.
[06:25] <Unit193> S_Mackie: http://docs.xubuntu.org/ self help?  Or something else? ;)
[06:35]  * S_Mackie chuckles.
[06:35] <S_Mackie> help.ubuntu.com wasn't giving me much to go on at a glance, but it reminded me of the word GRUB, which is part of my question.
[06:35] <S_Mackie> So that helped a lot.
[06:36] <S_Mackie> Um. So I just partitioned my hard drive with GParted, shrunk the Windows 7 partition and installed Linux in the new partition. NTFS and Ext4, 100g and 50g, respectively.
[06:36] <S_Mackie> Windows works as well as it did before, and the computer freely boots into it. I don't know how to make it boot from the Linux partition, which seems to have a proper file system and all that.
[06:37] <S_Mackie> At present, I don't see anything asking which I wish to boot into, and I feel kinda stupid, because somehow I expected the solution to involve CMOS boot settings.
[06:37] <Unit193> Did you install Grub onto the main boot device/partition?
[06:37] <S_Mackie> No.
[06:37] <S_Mackie> How do I do that?
[06:37] <Unit193> It's in.....
[06:38] <Unit193> !grub
[06:38] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[06:38] <S_Mackie> Gracias!
[06:38]  * S_Mackie frowns.
[06:38] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:39] <S_Mackie> I didn't lose Grub, as I didn't have it on this box as was. Should the RestoreGrub link suffice to help me with this?
[06:39] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing I'd think.
[06:39] <S_Mackie> Haha! That does look promising!
[06:42]  * S_Mackie pouts.
[06:42] <S_Mackie> Yep. I'm reading this and feeling dumb. I can't seem to find a foothold. Which means this is just not my night for being self-directed.
[06:42]  * S_Mackie rereads a bit.
[06:44] <S_Mackie> Correct me if I'm wrong, please: It is very probable there's some manner of GRUB 2 installed on this hard drive, but it's not being called up when I start my computer because it's in the wrong place, most likely because I didn't know how to ask the installation program to set the Linux install I was setting up, in its own new partition, as the OS I wanted the computer to boot into?
[06:45] <S_Mackie> Does that sound about right?
[06:45] <Unit193> Well, normally the installer asks if you want to install grub, but I'd guess it could put it in the wrong location.
[06:46] <S_Mackie> Odd. It didn't ask at all.
[06:46] <S_Mackie> That might explain that.
[06:47] <S_Mackie> I'm reasonably certain I'd've said 'yes,' since I recognized the term GRUB despite being more than a bit of a n00b.
[06:48] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should in theory be what you have (title isn't the same, but should be the same problem)
[06:49] <S_Mackie> Indeed, it didn't leap out at me as the page for my problem for that reason.
[06:49]  * S_Mackie chuckles.
[06:49] <Unit193> S_Mackie: Another thought, do you have EFI?
[06:49] <S_Mackie> If I do, I'm not wise enough to be aware of it.
[06:50] <S_Mackie> Short answer: Dunno, sorry.
[06:51] <Unit193> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270285.jpg  That'd be a little more what the boot selection would look like (items marked UEFI)
[06:52] <S_Mackie> Oooh, pretty.
[06:52] <S_Mackie> It doesn't look in the slightest bit familiar, though.
[06:52] <Unit193> Well, I'd either try the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but seems you don't have it. :)
[06:53] <S_Mackie> Even better? Looking at the RecoveringUbuntu bla de bla, I'm trying to follow the instructions and not having a superb extent of luck.
[06:53] <S_Mackie> Hrm. sudo apt-get time?
[06:54] <S_Mackie> Shit.
[06:54] <S_Mackie> I was a n00b when I fell out of touch. Is the Ubuntu Software Center equivalent to the Synaptic Package Manager?
[06:55] <Unit193> Eh, a little more "pretty" and shiny.
[06:55] <WalterN> koegs: seems the issue is UEFI booting?
[06:55] <WalterN> koegs: turned off UEFI and I dont get that error message any more
[06:55] <S_Mackie> I can't find any of several variations on "Boot-Repair" in either Ubuntu Software Center or via sudo apt-get, which means I'm at a loss on how to install it.
[06:55] <WalterN> something is still wrong, but enh, moving forward I think
[06:56] <Unit193> S_Mackie: Sadly, you have to add a ppa...
[06:56]  * S_Mackie blinks dumbly.
[06:56] <Unit193> WalterN: Secure boot enabled?  UEFI doesn't work with 32bit.
[06:56] <S_Mackie> A ppa?
[06:57] <Unit193> S_Mackie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[06:57] <S_Mackie> Oh thank you. That's much better.
[06:57] <WalterN> Unit193: secure boot... on the tftp server?
[06:57] <WalterN> or in the EFI settings?
[06:58] <Unit193> Hrm, it appears I missed more than I thought, nevermind me.... In the settings, though.
[06:58] <WalterN> regardless, it is a 64bit netboot
[06:58] <S_Mackie> "UEFI doesn't work with 32bit." Does that mean my 32 bit hardware in this box is not something that will be playing nice with UEFI?
[06:59] <Unit193> 32Bit version of Ubuntu*
[06:59] <S_Mackie> Oh. ... Would there be any reason I'd try to use a 64 bit version of Ubuntu on my 32 bit box?
[07:00] <Unit193> Bug #1025555'
[07:00] <ubottu> bug 1025555 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu32bits is incompatible with EFI computers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025555
[07:00] <Unit193> Well, most newer computers should be 64bit, but support 32 of course.
[07:00] <S_Mackie> Mine's just slightly too primitive.
[07:01] <S_Mackie> Hell, I'm running a SBLive! card that just doesn't seem to like Windows.
[07:02] <S_Mackie> So far, so good.
[07:04] <S_Mackie> It gave me a URL, which I've copied down, and I shall now restart my computer and see what happens.
[07:04] <S_Mackie> Thank you, Unit193. I'll be back in some manner.
[07:05] <Unit193> Hope it helps.
[07:06] <WalterN> http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-5083034
[07:06] <WalterN> something like that might be my issue
[07:12] <S_Mackie> So! Partial victory. I now no longer can boot into Windows, but my Windows install was really quite borked anyway.
[07:13] <S_Mackie> A victory in the sense that this is a being run from the Linux partition.
[07:15] <S_Mackie> Now let's see if I can find a page to help me get access to Windows again.
[07:16] <WalterN> woo
[07:16] <WalterN> I win
[07:17] <WalterN> PXE boot HO!
[07:20] <koegs> WalterN: top :)
[07:21] <WalterN> koegs: top what?
[07:25]  * S_Mackie groans.
[07:25] <S_Mackie> Aaaand I get to go back to Boot-Repair.
[07:25] <koegs> WalterN: more like "good to hear"
[07:27] <WalterN> koegs: it must have been something to do with the UEFI on my laptop... *shrug*
[07:27] <WalterN> changed it to 'legacy' insead of UEFI
[07:28] <WalterN> now I just need to think of a name for this... maybe fluttershy or something
[07:36] <S_Mackie> X|
[07:37] <S_Mackie> I've "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update"d, and now I can't seem to get it to run the program.
[07:38] <Unit193> That's because you didn't install it. :)   Also, if trying to add the windows partition, try os-prober?
[07:38] <S_Mackie> os-prober. Okay.
[07:39] <S_Mackie> /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain | /dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows1:chain
[07:41] <Unit193> Now sudo update-grub
[07:41] <WalterN> koegs: any reason why PXE would not work with UEFI?
[07:42] <S_Mackie> Huh. Okay.
[07:43] <S_Mackie> Generating grub.cfg ... <br> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic <br> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic <br> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin <br> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1 <br> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda2 <br> done
[07:43] <S_Mackie> Does that mean it should be fixed now? I confess, I'm a bit lost.
[07:45] <S_Mackie> "Generating" seems like it's a good sign...
[07:49] <S_Mackie> I shall have to test this shortly.
[07:50] <Unit193> Looks good to me. :)
[07:52] <S_Mackie> Boy I hope so, 'cause much as that Windows install has annoyed the jeepers out of me with its constant hanging, and its broad and utter incompatibility with my hardware and peripherals, I still want it to work some day.
[07:52] <S_Mackie> A condition much easier to achieve if I can boot into it.
[07:56] <S_Mackie> HOLY CRAP AWESOME!
[07:56] <S_Mackie> Er, sorry. For the first time in months, this computer can play music.
[07:57] <kadence> how to install xubuntu from a USB stick?
[07:57] <Unit193> !usb | two different ways
[07:57] <ubottu> two different ways: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:57] <kadence> thank you
[07:58] <Unit193> Sure, you on windows now?
[07:58]  * S_Mackie shall assume Unit is talking to ubottu.
[07:58] <WalterN> lol
[07:59] <Unit193> ubottu: is a bot
[07:59] <ubottu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information.
[07:59] <Unit193> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download is the best by far if you are on windows and want to make a bootable flash.
[07:59]  * S_Mackie shall assume Unit193 is talking to kadence.
[08:13] <S_Mackie> No soap. Windows remains inaccessible for the time being.
[08:13] <Unit193> Did you see a boot menu?
[08:29] <S_Mackie> Yes.
[08:29] <S_Mackie> (Sorry, Unit193, my 17 month old child suddenly became very, very needy.)
[08:40] <S_Mackie> Whiskey bravo, Kadence.
[08:44] <kadence> hello
[08:45] <kadence> i followed the usb installation thingy
[08:45] <kadence> the installation is stuck at 'preparing to install'
[08:45] <kadence> halp.
[08:46]  * kadence pokes S_Mackie 
[08:46] <S_Mackie> I noticed your cry for help, but I'm afraid I'm an idiot.
[08:46] <S_Mackie> I am here to ask very basic questions.
[08:46] <kadence> oh dear
[08:47] <S_Mackie> In fact, we've been sharing Unit193.
[08:47] <kadence> have we now..
[08:47]  * kadence pokes Unit193 
[08:48] <knome> kadence, please don't poke random people randomly. if somebody is here to help, they will help you
[08:48] <kadence> mk
[08:48] <knome> thanks for understanding
[08:48] <S_Mackie> What an interesting reaction.
[08:50] <S_Mackie> Turing test!
[08:50] <S_Mackie> Inconclusive.
[08:57] <knome> S_Mackie, please keep the irrelevant talk to #xubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <S_Mackie> My apologies, knome.
[08:58] <knome> again... thansk for understanding
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[11:39] <aguitel> i installed minimal xfce ,how launch jockey-gtk ?
[11:41] <bazhang> install it first
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[15:05] <nantou> there are 4 defective blocks in my local HDD, how bad is it and how do I fix it?
[15:06] <nantou> I used sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda
[15:06] <nantou> can anyone confirm if that has to do with the low transfer speeds I get from local HDD to external HDD? ext4 for both units
[15:07] <koegs> nantou: badblocks are hardware errors, you cannot fix them
[15:07] <koegs> you should think about replacing the hdd
[15:08] <Yotson> and in case you don't do backups. Think about that as well. ;)
[15:09] <nantou> koegs, so a nuking wont fix it...
[15:09] <nantou> or a fresh install
[15:09] <koegs> nope
[15:10] <nantou> why do hardware errors appear?
[15:10] <nantou> defective shut downs¿
[15:10] <nantou> ?
[15:14] <baizon> nantou: no it happens when a HDD is old
[15:14] <baizon> or when they get "buggy"
[15:14] <nantou> i see
[15:15] <nantou> how often should I change HDD's then?
[15:15] <baizon> i had 3 Segeate HDD which where broken after 6 months
[15:15] <baizon> my current WD HDD is 1 year old
[15:17] <baizon> nantou: well it depends. I personally switch my HDD every 3 years
[15:20] <Yotson> i do regular backups, a copy in house and a copy to my parents place(and vice versa). i use the hdd until it fails.
[15:21] <Yotson> stuff fails, try to limit the damage when it does. XD
[15:26] <nantou> 3 years... my oldes HDD is that old too IIRC
[15:27] <nimo> xfce will automatically save applications from my last logout and start them at login,,, I DONT want that... there's no option to turn it off?  any hack?
[15:27] <baizon> nimo: yes there is an option
[15:27] <nantou> what app do I use for backups?
[15:27] <nantou> im xubuntu 12.10
[15:28] <nimo> baizon, how do you disable this auto save?
[15:29] <baizon> nimo: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences
[15:30] <baizon> under logout settings
[15:30] <baizon> nantou: you can try http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/
[15:31] <nimo> baizon, automatically save sessions on logout is not enabled....
[15:32] <baizon> nimo: then please read this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5246
[15:34] <nimo> baizon, ok ill try that.... remove all content in that dir of make the dir unreachable
[15:34] <baizon> remove the content
[15:35] <nimo> ok brb
[15:39] <nimo> baizon, I think it works... thx dude
[15:39] <baizon> np
[15:53] <mondgefluester> hi =)
[15:54] <mondgefluester> i have some problems with my VLC reading a CD
[15:59] <holstein> mondgefluester: i would teak vlc out of the equation.. see that the disc is mounting.. see that you see it with a file manager.. then move on to codec support
[15:59] <TheSheep> holstein: audio cds don't mount
[16:00] <mondgefluester> ok thanks, but it seems i just forgot the restricted extras :D
[16:01] <TheSheep> mondgefluester: as far as I know, you don't even need an operating system for the cd drive to play an audio cd
[16:01] <TheSheep> mondgefluester: it's done in hardware
[16:02] <mondgefluester> TheSheep, it plays the cd, but doesn't save it
[16:04] <TheSheep> mondgefluester: "save it"?
[16:05] <TheSheep> mondgefluester: if you want to rip it, try soundjuicer
[16:05] <mondgefluester> doesn't matter, solved the problem already
[16:05] <mondgefluester> thank you =)
[16:05] <mondgefluester> i'll try if it fails, but  right now it seems to be working
[16:06] <holstein> extracting or ripping is the term.. if you search
[16:22] <Peyam> Hi
[16:23] <Peyam> xubuntu doesnt show my ipod
[16:23] <Peyam> when I plugg it in
[16:23] <Peyam> what isthe problem?
[16:32] <Peyam> Any body?
[16:36] <baizon> Peyam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[16:39] <Peyam> Thanks
[16:40] <baizon> np
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[17:02] <xubuntu711> hello
[17:04] <Peyam> hello
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[18:58] <S_Mackie> So, I installed GRUB and Boot-Repaired it. Windows is seen, Linux boots fine. When I try to boot into Windows, though, it just bounces back to the ram test.
[18:58] <S_Mackie> Why is that? How do I fix it?
[18:59] <holstein> S_Mackie: do you have a few entries for windows?
[18:59] <S_Mackie> Yes. Not sure why.
[18:59] <Unit193> Should have one main entry, then a recovery.
[19:00] <S_Mackie> Not marked accordingly. Sadly, I wasn't smart enough to write down the actual names of the entries.
[19:00] <holstein> S_Mackie: sometimes i just try the others, knowing that one might be "recovery".. being careful not to start that recovery process
[19:00] <holstein> S_Mackie: i dont trust the labels anyways
[19:00] <S_Mackie> I tried both, as they're identical on the face of it.
[19:00] <S_Mackie> They had the same result.
[19:01] <holstein> S_Mackie: was windows 'working" before? did you boot it after shrinking the partition before installing?
[19:01] <S_Mackie> Yes.
[19:01] <S_Mackie> In fact, until I deliberately installed GRUB, the computer still only booted into Windows.
[19:01] <holstein> so, you shrank windows.. booted.. test, and it worked? correct?
[19:02] <S_Mackie> Worked as well (and poorly) as before, yes.
[19:02] <S_Mackie> (Not a Windows joke. It's been giving me no end of trouble.)
[19:02] <holstein> S_Mackie: have you tried to just do it again?
[19:02] <S_Mackie> Just reinstall GRUB again?
[19:02] <S_Mackie> Or do you mean the repartitioning?
[19:02] <holstein> S_Mackie: well, if its been "trouble", this wont fix it.. you could be stumbling onto the larger issue here
[19:03] <S_Mackie> The trouble hasn't ever been in booting, and may have more to do with Adobe and legacy sound cards.
[19:03] <holstein> bad filesystem.. bad hard drive, or memory.. anyways, im talking about reinstalling grub
[19:05] <S_Mackie> I'm almost certain I have a browser tab for that.
[19:06] <S_Mackie> Hrm. Do I use boot-repair for that?
[19:06] <holstein> !grub | S_Mackie
[19:06] <ubottu> S_Mackie: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[19:06] <holstein> i always have to refer back to that wiki page... i usually do it with a live CD
[19:07] <S_Mackie> Hrm. I do have a live CD.
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[19:23] <alegen> good evening (to europeans at least). i used dd to write a raspbian image to an SD card. now when i try to sudo mount it i don`t know which filesystem to use. none of them seem to work... anyone who can give me an idea?
[19:25] <leoquant> alegen, whats a raspbian image? ツ
[19:25] <holstein> alegen: i would try ext... and i would ask the raspbian team what is expected if that doesnt work
[19:25] <holstein> alegen: mabye the imagne doesnt support DD-ing
[19:25] <alegen> raspbian is debian for raspberry pi :P
[19:26] <leoquant> ah, geeky :P
[19:26] <alegen> holstein: the tutorial on their website says to use dd... i will try again with ext and if not ask on the forums. thanks though :)
[19:26] <S_Mackie> Damn, now I have irrelevant questions./
[19:27] <leoquant> S_Mackie, thats better than irrelevant answers
[19:27] <S_Mackie> Fair enough.
[19:28] <alegen> lol
[19:29] <leoquant> the unanswered question==> charles ives
[19:29] <leoquant> makes you feel goof
[19:29] <leoquant> f?==>g
[19:29] <leoquant> g?==>d
[19:30] <leoquant> : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkFgIMC-Ks
[19:30] <S_Mackie> Okay, I'm'a take off for now, try this thing.
[19:39] <S_Mackie> Sorry, good sir. I'm trying to fix a broken GRUB.
[19:48] <S_Mackie> So, if I use Boot-Repair again, it should fix what ails me where it broke it last time?
[19:51] <S_Mackie> If not, things are about to get weird.
[19:56]  * S_Mackie pouts.
[19:56] <S_Mackie> No soap.
[19:58] <S_Mackie> I feel like a ditz. How do I get my present install's version number?
[20:00] <Unit193> lsb_release -r
[20:00] <S_Mackie> 12.10! Thanks.
[20:01] <S_Mackie> Apparently slightly old.
[20:01] <S_Mackie> I'm idling now. Thanks for your help!
[20:02] <Unit193> S_Mackie: 12.10 is current.
[20:02] <S_Mackie> Oh. Silly me, I can't read for shit lately.
[20:02] <S_Mackie> Again, thank you.
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[23:07] <YO> hello
[23:07] <YO> tips on removing xscreensaver and replacing it with gnome-screensaver?
[23:11] <holstein> YO: i would just install the screensaver i want, and not worry about removing the old one
[23:12] <YO> its not the screensaver, its the fact that when i wake up from sleep I get the grey, ugly Windows 95 prompt bpxes
[23:13] <holstein> YO: i dont use it the sceensaver to lock my screen. but, its the screenlocker you are talking about
[23:14] <YO> oh ok
[23:21] <xubuntu91> ;
[23:42] <magiK_> I just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop -  I'm loving it ;)
[23:43] <magiK_> So now I have a choice to run Unity, GNOME, GNOME Classic, XFCE or Xubuntu (XFCE) nice nice nice I love linux
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