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smspillazmdeslaur: well, I don't work for canonical anymore and have very little chance of coming to any more sprints or UDSes so that might be a bit difficult :)03:59
pittiGood morning05:34
didrocksgood morning06:39
jibelgood morning07:20
didrockssalut jibel!07:31
jibelSalut didrocks , comment ça va ?07:34
jibelgetting closer from a daily release of unity ? ;)07:34
didrocksjibel: ça va bien!07:34
didrocksjibel: UTAH seemed to not being nice on intel (stuck), so relaunched it07:35
didrockswith a latest unity commit07:35
didrocksthen, relaunching the indicator-only tests07:35
didrockslibdbusmenu failed, so I would like to not release it07:35
didrocks(just rm the files in the directory to not consider it)07:35
didrocksbut it seems the caps are again vanished07:35
jibeldidrocks, tell me if it hangs again on intel, I'll have a look.07:36
didrocksjibel: thanks! do you mind giving me back to caps?07:36
jibeldidrocks, doen07:42
jibeldone07:42
didrocksjibel: rocking! Thanks :)07:42
didrocks(and working ;))07:43
jibeldidrocks, I fixed the weird umask in r194, you'll have to republish the jobs to make it effective07:55
didrocksjibel: ok, let's do that after this release :)07:56
* Laney does the FRIDAY dance09:06
pittiLaney: DMCV? :-)09:10
seb128pitti, guten tag! wie gehts?09:30
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mhr3seb128, hello09:44
larsuseb128, lol, we just replied to two bugs which are duplicates of each other09:46
larsu bug 1098441 and bug 109846409:46
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1098441 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime is used in GNOME classic but the panel is only listed for Unity" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109844109:46
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1098464 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "[Precise, Quantal and Raring] In date and time indicator the date settings related menu item doesn't launch date and time preference pane" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109846409:46
seb128larsu, hehe, great minds think alike? ;-)09:46
seb128larsu, guten tag btw! ;-)09:46
larsuseb128, bonjour :)09:46
larsuseb128, I'll mark mine as dup, yours is more detailed09:46
seb128larsu, thanks ;-)09:47
pittibonjour seb128! je vais bien, merci! et toi?09:49
seb128pitti, je vais bien également, merci !09:49
pittijasoncwarner: "following week is MWC" -- Married With Children !?09:51
seb128lol09:54
seb128pitti, mobile world congress fyi ;-)09:54
seb128big conference in Barcelona09:54
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone10:19
didrockshey chrisccoulson10:19
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks, how are you?10:20
didrocksI'm good, thanks, yourself?10:20
chrisccoulsondidrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. still tired though ;)10:20
chrisccoulsonadded some more test cases to firefox yesterday to hopefully avoid language pack bugs in the future :)10:21
chrisccoulsonthat should please seb128 ;)10:21
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, the french speakers thank you for that ;-)10:23
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chrisccoulsonheh :)10:28
chrisccoulsonseb128, we found another language pack bug yesterday (bug 1098312) :(10:30
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1098312 in firefox (Ubuntu Raring) "firefox-locale-ca does not work in Firefox 18" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109831210:30
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chrisccoulsonbut http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/testing/xpcshell-package-tests/test_langpack_load.js and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/testing/xpcshell-package-tests/test_langpack_chrome.js catch all of these issues :)10:30
seb128chrisccoulson, excellent10:30
chrisccoulsonlanguage packs get very little testing upstream, because they're not the primary way for most of their users to get a localized firefox10:31
chrisccoulsonwhich means we're quite exposed, hence the recent issues10:31
chrisccoulsonhopefully we can prevent that in future though :)10:31
seb128yeah, hopefully upstream still agrees to help supporting the usecase ;-)10:32
pittiseb128, didrocks: does any of you go to FOSDEM?10:56
didrockspitti: I was planning to, but I switched  a week of holidays because of next week sprint. So will be skiing during FOSDEM10:57
pittiack10:57
pittijust wondering whether to share a room, etc.10:57
pittianyone else going to FOSDEM?10:57
seb128pitti, I'm not decided yet, it's a 3 hours train ride so I don't need to book well in advance10:58
* ogra_ might go as well, but not stay over night10:59
Laneyhmm, i wanted to go11:09
Laneyprobably a bit late to get reasonably priced eurostar11:09
xnoxLaney: there is never a reasonably priced eurostar =)11:13
Laneyseems that way11:14
Laneyi've not been on it :(11:14
xnoxI was =) but my previous employer paid for it :P11:26
Laneyaren't you like 15 and therefore can get young persons rate anyway?11:27
Laney:P11:27
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i wish webgl didn't suck so badly in firefox11:30
xnoxLaney: funny you should say that. Just a few days ago I attached my 16-25 railcard onto my oyster to get cap limit discounts on oyster network.11:54
Laneyxnox: Mine runs out very soon :(11:54
Laneyrenewed it the day before my 26th birthday11:54
xnoxcheat.11:56
Laneyyou should purchase a three year one the day before your 24th birthday11:57
xnoxI didn't know I could get a three year one.11:57
Laneyme neither (until it was too late)11:58
xnoxwell it is too late for me.11:58
Laneyunlucky11:58
xnoxplus you need a british passport to buy online.11:58
Laneyalso a secret I found out is that the person that renews it in person can do it for 13 months11:59
Laneyso if you ask nicely you can get an extra month when you're 2711:59
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xnoxLaney: to be honest it's not as good in london. many fares are capped and rarely go as far as M25.12:06
Laney:(12:06
Laneypoor londoners12:06
xnoxwell, i'll see how much difference it makes on oyster....12:06
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Laneyhmm16:28
Laneynew glib seems to make a lot of stuff segfault on quit16:28
Laneyah, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69011816:28
ubot2`Gnome bug 690118 in general "Crash when closing last tab of a window using Ctrl-w" [Normal,New]16:28
seb128Laney, blame it on desrt!16:40
attentelol16:41
Laney:P16:41
Laneycan't tell if it's something apps should be fixing or a fix in glib/gtk+ is required16:43
Laneysuppose the latter16:44
seb128Laney, let's wait for desrt to be around to comment16:48
seb128uploading a new glib on friday seems like not a great idea anyway16:48
Laneyheh16:48
Laneyit's in svn anyway, so not much more work when we figure out what to do16:50
seb128Laney, thanks for working on the update btw! ;-)16:50
Laneyno worries :-)16:54
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iBelieveI just branched apport to work on a bug fix, and am getting the message "OUT-OF-DATE". What does this mean and how does this affect me?17:15
iBelieveOops, sorry, wrong channel.17:15
didrocksdesrt: I'm sad17:18
didrocksdesrt: I need to conditionnaly add an item to a list in gsettings17:18
didrocksonce upon a time, I hard about gsettings lists17:18
didrocksbut maybe, it was just a dream involving you, larsu and seb128 :)17:19
larsuHAHA17:19
desrthuh weird.  i must have had a strange problem with my IRC client17:19
desrti wonder what happened17:19
larsudesrt, you missed the best part: <didrocks> but maybe, it was just a dream involving you, larsu and seb128 :)17:19
didrocksdesrt: ahah, nice try!17:19
desrtdidrocks has dreams about me?17:19
desrtand lars and seb are in them?17:19
didrocksscary isn't it? :)17:20
desrti'm not scared17:20
desrtbut i think maybe you work too much :p17:20
didrocksheh17:20
seb128oh, desrt is there17:20
seb128he's just not responding when you mention bugs :p17:20
seb128desrt, you can't hide again!17:20
seb128desrt, hey btw ;-)17:20
didrocksseb128: this is his """""IRC issues"""" :)17:21
seb128yeah17:21
desrtdidrocks: your unbalanced quote marks are really bothering me17:21
desrtplease try not to do that again17:21
didrocksseb128: see, it's """"happening again"""" when you mention bugs :)17:21
seb128desrt, any recommendation what we should do for glib 2.25 and that segfault on close bug?17:21
desrtseb128: ya... that's an interesting one17:21
didrocksdesrt: they were perfectly balanced, those are your network issues ;)17:21
didrocks(hem hem)17:22
desrtseb128: fwiw, i don't think it's a glib bug17:22
desrtbut that's little help for you17:22
seb128desrt, well, it's blocking glib to be updated in any case17:22
seb128desrt, I guess it's a "somebody needs to debug further to know what's going on"?17:23
seb128e.g no recommendation/solution until then?17:23
desrtyou could back out the change17:23
seb128desrt, well, options are to back out the change or to stay on 2.24 until that's resolved one way or another ... I'm not in an hurry to update so I guess we could wait a few days to see where that goes17:25
desrtseb128: i'd kill for a testcase17:26
desrtproblem is that nobody has seen it outside of uimanager17:27
desrtand uimanager is gigantic and ugly17:27
didrocksseb128: don't give him a testcase, he will become a murderer then!17:27
didrockswe still need him :)17:27
robrudidrocks, ping17:39
didrockshey robru :)17:39
robrudidrocks, so about https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/signon-ui/autoland/+merge/14276117:39
robrudidrocks, kenvandine and I weren't sure how to know what number to put as the revision17:39
didrocksyeah?17:39
didrocksrobru: so, basically, there are two cases17:39
robrudidrocks, we were looking at libunity-webapps and the revision number was 100's less than what the latest commit was, and there didn't seem to be much of a reason for how that commit was chosen (the chosen commit didn't look special at all)17:40
didrocksthe first one is, there are been no release since the inlining17:40
didrocksrobru: didn't I change it? I remember to have screwed libunity-webapps by 100 :)17:40
seb128mterry, hey17:40
robrudidrocks, I guess so. it's mysterious to me.17:40
robrudidrocks, I'm also unsure how to tell which revision is the most recent one that's been released in-distro17:41
didrocks- if there has been no release since the inline, the rev number is the one from the inlining17:41
didrocks  + we have to list every bugs fixed since the last release to the inlining17:41
seb128mterry, unity-greeter still states "ubuntu 12.10" on raring ... do you know if anyone asked design for an updated logo? (it would be good if we could generate that image dynamically...)17:41
didrocks- if there are been a release since the inline, the revision number is just the revision number of the release17:41
didrocksrobru: you normally have either a tag or a commit with "release <foo>"17:42
didrocksfor any good upstream project :)17:42
robrudidrocks, so in the case of signon-ui, the inlining commit is literally the most recent one. so there's been no release since inlining.17:42
didrocksrobru: are the 2 cases I stated above makes senese? ^17:42
robrudidrocks, yeah, I understand what you're saying now17:43
didrocksrobru: yeah, it's rev 71, isn't it?17:43
mterryseb128, we have a bug open about it... let me see17:43
seb128mterry, who is providing the image usually?17:43
didrocksrobru: and there has been no bug fixed from the latest rev to rev 71, so nothing to list in addition to this commit :)17:43
seb128mterry, direct ping my be needed ;-)17:43
robrudidrocks, oh, right. I was looking at the debian/changelog, not the bzr commit log17:43
mterryseb128, bug 108333317:43
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1083333 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Need greeter 13.04 logo asset" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108333317:43
mterryseb128, rose is usually.  she gave us a 13.04 one, but it wasn't good17:44
didrocksrobru: yeah, mostly bzr commits will be of help :)17:44
seb128mterry, ok, well no hurry I was just wondering if that's something that would need some pinging, thanks17:44
robrudidrocks, ok, so I'll change it to 71, and then what? do I list commits 72 and 73 in the debian/changelog?17:45
didrocksrobru: just an example of libdbusmenu which had bugs fixed between the latest release and the inlining version: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/libdbusmenu/bootstrap2/+merge/14244617:45
didrocksrobru: no, you don't need, as you specify rev 71, the bot will start to grab all the bugs fixed from rev 72 and onward :)17:46
didrocksand then you won't need for it all17:46
didrocksbut let's say the rev 68 was the latest release17:46
robruahh, ok17:46
didrocksbugs were fixed in rev 69 and 7017:46
didrocksas you state rev 71 as the "beginning to look at", it will never look at rev 69 and 7017:47
didrocksand so those bugs won't ever be listed in debian/changelog17:47
robruok17:47
didrocksrobru: this is only for the boostrapping, if we listed rev 68, it would take every bugs from the inlining in debian/changelog that appears in rev 7117:47
didrocksso relisting every bugs :)17:48
robrudidrocks, ok, I think I understand now. I wasn't sure what was the significance of this revno that we needed to list.17:48
didrocksrobru: yeah, I tried to explain it a little bit in the wiki, please feel free to clear that up if you feel the need :)17:49
didrocksagain, it's only the bootstrap, so we can forget after a while… :)17:49
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didrocksbschaefer: we are not processes!17:49
bschaeferopps17:49
didrocks:)17:49
bschaeferdidrocks, Ctrl+Z on a unity process sometimes has its draw back :17:50
bschaefer:)17:50
didrocksbschaefer: ahah, indeed ;)17:50
didrocksbschaefer: I tend to let my tab having the unity running in fg17:50
sarnoldbschaefer: hehe :)17:50
didrocksbschaefer: otherwise I forget about it and close the terminal17:50
sarnolddidrocks: nohup? :)17:50
didrockssarnold: yeah, I should do that, but normally too late once you run "unity" :)17:51
bschaeferdidrocks, haha, yeah, I have mine running sometimes when Im building/testing so I can restart unity17:51
bschaeferon the same terminal as I compile :)17:51
didrocksheh :)17:51
robrudidrocks, ok, please approve now ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/signon-ui/autoland/+merge/14276117:51
didrocksrobru: done! there was another one IIRC :)17:52
robrudidrocks, yes, I am just looking at that one now ;-)17:52
didrocksbut this was this morning, so maybe my memory is wrong, it was stone age! :)17:52
sarnolddidrocks: oh, if you need it, there's a 'disown' bash builtin that does some of it after the fact17:52
didrockssarnold: oh? I didn't know about that one, will look at it, thanks!17:53
robrudidrocks, ok, this one should be good now too. https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/webaccounts-browser-extension/autoland/+merge/142769 ;-)17:59
didrocksrobru: approved as well :)18:01
robrudidrocks, thanks!18:02
didrockslet's see on Monday what projects can be enabled for daily landing in your opinion18:02
didrocksrobru: yw :)18:02
robrudidrocks, sorry -- is there a difference between "autolanding" and "daily landing"? or are these the same?18:02
didrocksrobru: I try to use autolanding for the upstream automated merge process18:03
didrocksand daily landing for ubuntu18:03
didrocksbut not sure if others are using the same terminology :)18:03
* didrocks waves good evening and good week-end everyone!18:11
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robruchrisccoulson, firefox just crashed! I BLAME YOU PERSONALLY!!!22:27
mdeslaurlol22:27
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mlankhorstobviously his fault22:41
robruhehe, reported a bug for now.22:48
robrualright, I'm off to the store! back laters22:49
chrisccoulsonoh, robru has gone already23:38
chrisccoulsoni was going to say, if firefox crashes, try disabling the webapps addon ;)23:39

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