[03:59] <smspillaz> mdeslaur: well, I don't work for canonical anymore and have very little chance of coming to any more sprints or UDSes so that might be a bit difficult :)
[05:34] <pitti> Good morning
[06:39] <didrocks> good morning
[07:20] <jibel> good morning
[07:31] <didrocks> salut jibel!
[07:34] <jibel> Salut didrocks , comment ça va ?
[07:34] <jibel> getting closer from a daily release of unity ? ;)
[07:34] <didrocks> jibel: ça va bien!
[07:35] <didrocks> jibel: UTAH seemed to not being nice on intel (stuck), so relaunched it
[07:35] <didrocks> with a latest unity commit
[07:35] <didrocks> then, relaunching the indicator-only tests
[07:35] <didrocks> libdbusmenu failed, so I would like to not release it
[07:35] <didrocks> (just rm the files in the directory to not consider it)
[07:35] <didrocks> but it seems the caps are again vanished
[07:36] <jibel> didrocks, tell me if it hangs again on intel, I'll have a look.
[07:36] <didrocks> jibel: thanks! do you mind giving me back to caps?
[07:42] <jibel> didrocks, doen
[07:42] <jibel> done
[07:42] <didrocks> jibel: rocking! Thanks :)
[07:43] <didrocks> (and working ;))
[07:55] <jibel> didrocks, I fixed the weird umask in r194, you'll have to republish the jobs to make it effective
[07:56] <didrocks> jibel: ok, let's do that after this release :)
[09:06]  * Laney does the FRIDAY dance
[09:10] <pitti> Laney: DMCV? :-)
[09:30] <seb128> pitti, guten tag! wie gehts?
[09:44] <mhr3> seb128, hello
[09:46] <larsu> seb128, lol, we just replied to two bugs which are duplicates of each other
[09:46] <larsu>  bug 1098441 and bug 1098464
[09:46] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1098441 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime is used in GNOME classic but the panel is only listed for Unity" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098441
[09:46] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1098464 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "[Precise, Quantal and Raring] In date and time indicator the date settings related menu item doesn't launch date and time preference pane" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098464
[09:46] <seb128> larsu, hehe, great minds think alike? ;-)
[09:46] <seb128> larsu, guten tag btw! ;-)
[09:46] <larsu> seb128, bonjour :)
[09:46] <larsu> seb128, I'll mark mine as dup, yours is more detailed
[09:47] <seb128> larsu, thanks ;-)
[09:49] <pitti> bonjour seb128! je vais bien, merci! et toi?
[09:49] <seb128> pitti, je vais bien également, merci !
[09:51] <pitti> jasoncwarner: "following week is MWC" -- Married With Children !?
[09:54] <seb128> lol
[09:54] <seb128> pitti, mobile world congress fyi ;-)
[09:54] <seb128> big conference in Barcelona
[10:19] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[10:19] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson
[10:20] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks, how are you?
[10:20] <didrocks> I'm good, thanks, yourself?
[10:20] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. still tired though ;)
[10:21] <chrisccoulson> added some more test cases to firefox yesterday to hopefully avoid language pack bugs in the future :)
[10:21] <chrisccoulson> that should please seb128 ;)
[10:23] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, the french speakers thank you for that ;-)
[10:28] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[10:30] <chrisccoulson> seb128, we found another language pack bug yesterday (bug 1098312) :(
[10:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1098312 in firefox (Ubuntu Raring) "firefox-locale-ca does not work in Firefox 18" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098312
[10:30] <chrisccoulson> but http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/testing/xpcshell-package-tests/test_langpack_load.js and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/testing/xpcshell-package-tests/test_langpack_chrome.js catch all of these issues :)
[10:30] <seb128> chrisccoulson, excellent
[10:31] <chrisccoulson> language packs get very little testing upstream, because they're not the primary way for most of their users to get a localized firefox
[10:31] <chrisccoulson> which means we're quite exposed, hence the recent issues
[10:31] <chrisccoulson> hopefully we can prevent that in future though :)
[10:32] <seb128> yeah, hopefully upstream still agrees to help supporting the usecase ;-)
[10:56] <pitti> seb128, didrocks: does any of you go to FOSDEM?
[10:57] <didrocks> pitti: I was planning to, but I switched  a week of holidays because of next week sprint. So will be skiing during FOSDEM
[10:57] <pitti> ack
[10:57] <pitti> just wondering whether to share a room, etc.
[10:57] <pitti> anyone else going to FOSDEM?
[10:58] <seb128> pitti, I'm not decided yet, it's a 3 hours train ride so I don't need to book well in advance
[10:59]  * ogra_ might go as well, but not stay over night
[11:09] <Laney> hmm, i wanted to go
[11:09] <Laney> probably a bit late to get reasonably priced eurostar
[11:13] <xnox> Laney: there is never a reasonably priced eurostar =)
[11:14] <Laney> seems that way
[11:14] <Laney> i've not been on it :(
[11:26] <xnox> I was =) but my previous employer paid for it :P
[11:27] <Laney> aren't you like 15 and therefore can get young persons rate anyway?
[11:27] <Laney> :P
[11:30] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i wish webgl didn't suck so badly in firefox
[11:54] <xnox> Laney: funny you should say that. Just a few days ago I attached my 16-25 railcard onto my oyster to get cap limit discounts on oyster network.
[11:54] <Laney> xnox: Mine runs out very soon :(
[11:54] <Laney> renewed it the day before my 26th birthday
[11:56] <xnox> cheat.
[11:57] <Laney> you should purchase a three year one the day before your 24th birthday
[11:57] <xnox> I didn't know I could get a three year one.
[11:58] <Laney> me neither (until it was too late)
[11:58] <xnox> well it is too late for me.
[11:58] <Laney> unlucky
[11:58] <xnox> plus you need a british passport to buy online.
[11:59] <Laney> also a secret I found out is that the person that renews it in person can do it for 13 months
[11:59] <Laney> so if you ask nicely you can get an extra month when you're 27
[12:06] <xnox> Laney: to be honest it's not as good in london. many fares are capped and rarely go as far as M25.
[12:06] <Laney> :(
[12:06] <Laney> poor londoners
[12:06] <xnox> well, i'll see how much difference it makes on oyster....
[16:28] <Laney> hmm
[16:28] <Laney> new glib seems to make a lot of stuff segfault on quit
[16:28] <Laney> ah, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690118
[16:28] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 690118 in general "Crash when closing last tab of a window using Ctrl-w" [Normal,New]
[16:40] <seb128> Laney, blame it on desrt!
[16:41] <attente> lol
[16:41] <Laney> :P
[16:43] <Laney> can't tell if it's something apps should be fixing or a fix in glib/gtk+ is required
[16:44] <Laney> suppose the latter
[16:48] <seb128> Laney, let's wait for desrt to be around to comment
[16:48] <seb128> uploading a new glib on friday seems like not a great idea anyway
[16:48] <Laney> heh
[16:50] <Laney> it's in svn anyway, so not much more work when we figure out what to do
[16:50] <seb128> Laney, thanks for working on the update btw! ;-)
[16:54] <Laney> no worries :-)
[17:15] <iBelieve> I just branched apport to work on a bug fix, and am getting the message "OUT-OF-DATE". What does this mean and how does this affect me?
[17:15] <iBelieve> Oops, sorry, wrong channel.
[17:18] <didrocks> desrt: I'm sad
[17:18] <didrocks> desrt: I need to conditionnaly add an item to a list in gsettings
[17:18] <didrocks> once upon a time, I hard about gsettings lists
[17:19] <didrocks> but maybe, it was just a dream involving you, larsu and seb128 :)
[17:19] <larsu> HAHA
[17:19] <desrt> huh weird.  i must have had a strange problem with my IRC client
[17:19] <desrt> i wonder what happened
[17:19] <larsu> desrt, you missed the best part: <didrocks> but maybe, it was just a dream involving you, larsu and seb128 :)
[17:19] <didrocks> desrt: ahah, nice try!
[17:19] <desrt> didrocks has dreams about me?
[17:19] <desrt> and lars and seb are in them?
[17:20] <didrocks> scary isn't it? :)
[17:20] <desrt> i'm not scared
[17:20] <desrt> but i think maybe you work too much :p
[17:20] <didrocks> heh
[17:20] <seb128> oh, desrt is there
[17:20] <seb128> he's just not responding when you mention bugs :p
[17:20] <seb128> desrt, you can't hide again!
[17:20] <seb128> desrt, hey btw ;-)
[17:21] <didrocks> seb128: this is his """""IRC issues"""" :)
[17:21] <seb128> yeah
[17:21] <desrt> didrocks: your unbalanced quote marks are really bothering me
[17:21] <desrt> please try not to do that again
[17:21] <didrocks> seb128: see, it's """"happening again"""" when you mention bugs :)
[17:21] <seb128> desrt, any recommendation what we should do for glib 2.25 and that segfault on close bug?
[17:21] <desrt> seb128: ya... that's an interesting one
[17:21] <didrocks> desrt: they were perfectly balanced, those are your network issues ;)
[17:22] <didrocks> (hem hem)
[17:22] <desrt> seb128: fwiw, i don't think it's a glib bug
[17:22] <desrt> but that's little help for you
[17:22] <seb128> desrt, well, it's blocking glib to be updated in any case
[17:23] <seb128> desrt, I guess it's a "somebody needs to debug further to know what's going on"?
[17:23] <seb128> e.g no recommendation/solution until then?
[17:23] <desrt> you could back out the change
[17:25] <seb128> desrt, well, options are to back out the change or to stay on 2.24 until that's resolved one way or another ... I'm not in an hurry to update so I guess we could wait a few days to see where that goes
[17:26] <desrt> seb128: i'd kill for a testcase
[17:27] <desrt> problem is that nobody has seen it outside of uimanager
[17:27] <desrt> and uimanager is gigantic and ugly
[17:27] <didrocks> seb128: don't give him a testcase, he will become a murderer then!
[17:27] <didrocks> we still need him :)
[17:39] <robru> didrocks, ping
[17:39] <didrocks> hey robru :)
[17:39] <robru> didrocks, so about https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/signon-ui/autoland/+merge/142761
[17:39] <robru> didrocks, kenvandine and I weren't sure how to know what number to put as the revision
[17:39] <didrocks> yeah?
[17:39] <didrocks> robru: so, basically, there are two cases
[17:40] <robru> didrocks, we were looking at libunity-webapps and the revision number was 100's less than what the latest commit was, and there didn't seem to be much of a reason for how that commit was chosen (the chosen commit didn't look special at all)
[17:40] <didrocks> the first one is, there are been no release since the inlining
[17:40] <didrocks> robru: didn't I change it? I remember to have screwed libunity-webapps by 100 :)
[17:40] <seb128> mterry, hey
[17:40] <robru> didrocks, I guess so. it's mysterious to me.
[17:41] <robru> didrocks, I'm also unsure how to tell which revision is the most recent one that's been released in-distro
[17:41] <didrocks> - if there has been no release since the inline, the rev number is the one from the inlining
[17:41] <didrocks>   + we have to list every bugs fixed since the last release to the inlining
[17:41] <seb128> mterry, unity-greeter still states "ubuntu 12.10" on raring ... do you know if anyone asked design for an updated logo? (it would be good if we could generate that image dynamically...)
[17:41] <didrocks> - if there are been a release since the inline, the revision number is just the revision number of the release
[17:42] <didrocks> robru: you normally have either a tag or a commit with "release <foo>"
[17:42] <didrocks> for any good upstream project :)
[17:42] <robru> didrocks, so in the case of signon-ui, the inlining commit is literally the most recent one. so there's been no release since inlining.
[17:42] <didrocks> robru: are the 2 cases I stated above makes senese? ^
[17:43] <robru> didrocks, yeah, I understand what you're saying now
[17:43] <didrocks> robru: yeah, it's rev 71, isn't it?
[17:43] <mterry> seb128, we have a bug open about it... let me see
[17:43] <seb128> mterry, who is providing the image usually?
[17:43] <didrocks> robru: and there has been no bug fixed from the latest rev to rev 71, so nothing to list in addition to this commit :)
[17:43] <seb128> mterry, direct ping my be needed ;-)
[17:43] <robru> didrocks, oh, right. I was looking at the debian/changelog, not the bzr commit log
[17:43] <mterry> seb128, bug 1083333
[17:43] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1083333 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Need greeter 13.04 logo asset" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1083333
[17:44] <mterry> seb128, rose is usually.  she gave us a 13.04 one, but it wasn't good
[17:44] <didrocks> robru: yeah, mostly bzr commits will be of help :)
[17:44] <seb128> mterry, ok, well no hurry I was just wondering if that's something that would need some pinging, thanks
[17:45] <robru> didrocks, ok, so I'll change it to 71, and then what? do I list commits 72 and 73 in the debian/changelog?
[17:45] <didrocks> robru: just an example of libdbusmenu which had bugs fixed between the latest release and the inlining version: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/libdbusmenu/bootstrap2/+merge/142446
[17:46] <didrocks> robru: no, you don't need, as you specify rev 71, the bot will start to grab all the bugs fixed from rev 72 and onward :)
[17:46] <didrocks> and then you won't need for it all
[17:46] <didrocks> but let's say the rev 68 was the latest release
[17:46] <robru> ahh, ok
[17:46] <didrocks> bugs were fixed in rev 69 and 70
[17:47] <didrocks> as you state rev 71 as the "beginning to look at", it will never look at rev 69 and 70
[17:47] <didrocks> and so those bugs won't ever be listed in debian/changelog
[17:47] <robru> ok
[17:47] <didrocks> robru: this is only for the boostrapping, if we listed rev 68, it would take every bugs from the inlining in debian/changelog that appears in rev 71
[17:48] <didrocks> so relisting every bugs :)
[17:48] <robru> didrocks, ok, I think I understand now. I wasn't sure what was the significance of this revno that we needed to list.
[17:49] <didrocks> robru: yeah, I tried to explain it a little bit in the wiki, please feel free to clear that up if you feel the need :)
[17:49] <didrocks> again, it's only the bootstrap, so we can forget after a while… :)
[17:49] <bschaefer> bg
[17:49] <bschaefer> bg
[17:49] <bschaefer> bg
[17:49] <bschaefer> bg
[17:49] <didrocks> bschaefer: we are not processes!
[17:49] <bschaefer> opps
[17:49] <didrocks> :)
[17:50] <bschaefer> didrocks, Ctrl+Z on a unity process sometimes has its draw back :
[17:50] <bschaefer> :)
[17:50] <didrocks> bschaefer: ahah, indeed ;)
[17:50] <didrocks> bschaefer: I tend to let my tab having the unity running in fg
[17:50] <sarnold> bschaefer: hehe :)
[17:50] <didrocks> bschaefer: otherwise I forget about it and close the terminal
[17:50] <sarnold> didrocks: nohup? :)
[17:51] <didrocks> sarnold: yeah, I should do that, but normally too late once you run "unity" :)
[17:51] <bschaefer> didrocks, haha, yeah, I have mine running sometimes when Im building/testing so I can restart unity
[17:51] <bschaefer> on the same terminal as I compile :)
[17:51] <didrocks> heh :)
[17:51] <robru> didrocks, ok, please approve now ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/signon-ui/autoland/+merge/142761
[17:52] <didrocks> robru: done! there was another one IIRC :)
[17:52] <robru> didrocks, yes, I am just looking at that one now ;-)
[17:52] <didrocks> but this was this morning, so maybe my memory is wrong, it was stone age! :)
[17:52] <sarnold> didrocks: oh, if you need it, there's a 'disown' bash builtin that does some of it after the fact
[17:53] <didrocks> sarnold: oh? I didn't know about that one, will look at it, thanks!
[17:59] <robru> didrocks, ok, this one should be good now too. https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/webaccounts-browser-extension/autoland/+merge/142769 ;-)
[18:01] <didrocks> robru: approved as well :)
[18:02] <robru> didrocks, thanks!
[18:02] <didrocks> let's see on Monday what projects can be enabled for daily landing in your opinion
[18:02] <didrocks> robru: yw :)
[18:02] <robru> didrocks, sorry -- is there a difference between "autolanding" and "daily landing"? or are these the same?
[18:03] <didrocks> robru: I try to use autolanding for the upstream automated merge process
[18:03] <didrocks> and daily landing for ubuntu
[18:03] <didrocks> but not sure if others are using the same terminology :)
[18:11]  * didrocks waves good evening and good week-end everyone!
[22:27] <robru> chrisccoulson, firefox just crashed! I BLAME YOU PERSONALLY!!!
[22:27] <mdeslaur> lol
[22:41] <mlankhorst> obviously his fault
[22:48] <robru> hehe, reported a bug for now.
[22:49] <robru> alright, I'm off to the store! back laters
[23:38] <chrisccoulson> oh, robru has gone already
[23:39] <chrisccoulson> i was going to say, if firefox crashes, try disabling the webapps addon ;)