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infinityHuh.  Something went very wrong and my d-i-images britney hack didn't work to keep linux_3.8 out.07:09
* infinity fixes d-i, but would like to know why.07:10
infinityOh, and I see why.07:15
infinitycjwatson: Did you just recently start using the faux package stuff in britney?  It's outputting completely broken stanzas to Packages...07:18
infinity(Which, I hope, is the cause of my d-i-images hack no longer working..)07:29
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psivaacjwatson: the server installations have linux-headers-server with unmet dependencies (linux-headers-generic (3.8.0.0.13) . is it temporary issue due to the timing?09:37
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psivaathat is for today's server installations09:39
psivaaapw: henrix: ^^09:41
infinitypsivaa: It's temporary, yes.09:44
infinitypsivaa: proposed migration had an oops, and I'm fixing as we speak, though I won't stay up and respin images.09:44
psivaainfinity: ack, thank you. will there be a respin today though?09:45
infinitypsivaa: If someone reminds me in the morning, I could do so, or we could just wait for the next round of dailies.09:46
Laneyis that what broke desktop dailies too?09:46
infinityLaney: Seems likely.09:46
Laneyalthough perhaps that has fixed itself09:49
Laneyor someone fixed it, or whatever09:49
cjwatsonslangasek: It's a bug that I haven't managed to figure out how to fix yet09:51
cjwatsoninfinity: No, I haven't changed anything there recently09:52
infinitycjwatson: Maybe it was that merge with Debian?  I know Packages_foo didn't used to have those broken faux packages at the tail end.09:52
cjwatsonHm, could be.  That was a little while back but I guess we haven't been paying close attention since.09:54
cjwatsonI didn't think it touched faux packages though.09:54
cjwatsonActually I thought faux packages were done by britney1.09:55
cjwatsonAnd I cleared them all out of there ...09:55
psivaaLaney: the raring desktop images have not built due to empathy having unmet dependencies?09:55
cjwatsonOh, I missed the fact that some of them were generated, maybe09:56
cjwatsonUm.  I actually have no idea where those are coming from.09:56
cjwatsonAh, britney1/fauxpkg/noremove.d/09:57
infinityYeah, but that's not new.09:57
infinityb1 hasn't been touched in ages.09:57
cjwatsonNone of this is new.09:57
cjwatsonWhat exactly broke?09:57
infinitySo, I figured maybe it was b2 that started acting on it somehow.09:57
infinityIt stopped blocking linux on d-i-images.09:58
infinityEntirely.09:58
infinityAnd my guess (didn't dig) is that it thought the d-i-images entry was garbage because of all the broken ones later with the Package headers inthe wrong spots.09:58
cjwatsonOh.  But there isn't an ordering guarantee there; it's only broken from the POV of broken code :)09:59
* Laney tries respinning desktop as it seems like empathy is now installable in release09:59
infinityAre you sure?  I've seen several tools complain if the first line in a Package stanza isn't Package:09:59
cjwatsonI've never seen anything in policy specifying the ordering.10:00
infinityAnyhow, that was all a wild guess anyway, but I can't think of any other good reason why d-i-images was completely absent from update_output, and why linux migrated without it.10:00
cjwatsonA bit hard to prove the negative without reading the whole thing, but I'm fairly sure.10:01
cjwatsonb2 uses apt_pkg.TagFile to parse Packages files, AFAICS, so it shouldn't mind about ordering10:02
cjwatsonI have no more bright ideas at this time in the morning, I'm afraid :-/10:03
infinityYeah, I've been too busy fixing the symptom to look for the cause.10:04
infinityI'll poke it when I wake up.10:04
infinityBut at least the current d-i should make it all happy again.10:04
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cjwatsoninfinity,slangasek: If it doesn't terrify you too much, review of ^- that livecd-rootfs upload would be good11:12
cjwatsonThat's for the X enablement stack in 12.04.211:12
infinitycjwatson: If vorlon doesn't beat me to it, I'll check in the morning.11:23
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Laneypsivaa: you haz desktop dailies now11:57
psivaaLaney: thanks11:58
infinitycjwatson: Hrm, maybe I was barking up the wrong tree.  Shouldn't the UML build-dep have also kept linux from migrating?12:19
infinitycjwatson: Maybe it's stopped taking NBS binary removal into account when doing rdep checks?12:19
cjwatsonI'm not sure; if you can find an example which doesn't rapidly vanish (i.e. something also blocked by something else), then maybe I can check ...12:24
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tseliotcjwatson: hi, can you approve the following sources and move them to main, please? nvidia-settings-304 nvidia-settings-304-updates nvidia-settings-310 nvidia-settings-310-updates12:46
cjwatsonI'm about to go out for lunch - maybe somebody else can in the meantime12:47
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bdmurrayinfinity: do you have an opinion on the worthwhileness of SRU'ing bug 1078544?18:32
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1078544 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Quantal) "python-aptdaemon: upgrading marks auto-installed packages as manual" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107854418:32
infinitybdmurray: Eww.18:34
infinitybdmurray: Yes, please SRU that.18:34
bdmurrayinfinity: also I'm inclined to mark bug 1027987 verification-done based off the regression testing and scope of the change, but would like a 2nd opinion.18:35
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1027987 in libvirt (Ubuntu Precise) "Starting libvirtd takes too long because of "udevadm settle" timeout" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102798718:35
infinitybdmurray: I'm inclined to let it slide, given that it's well-tested elsewhere.18:38
infinityStill a bit weird that nobody could reproduce the bug after it was fixed, but several people could before.18:38
infinity(As Ryan points out, though, this could just mean that a second bug was fixed elsewhere in the distro, and I'm not entirely against having a bug fixed twice)18:39
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