[00:00] <WanderingEnder> Its basically the CLI version of the desktop upgrade, Ziber.
[00:00] <Ziber> Well, they're talking about using the GUI... How do I do it at the commandline?
[00:00] <jrib> Ziber: scroll down to the server section
[00:01] <Ziber> I don't see it.
[00:01] <bond__> blami: you know how to check for MSS in ubuntu?
[00:01] <jrib> Ziber: what page are you reading?
[00:02] <Ziber> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[00:02] <WanderingEnder> These docs need updated.
[00:02] <WanderingEnder> desktop is only for desktop users. No info for server.
[00:02] <jrib> Ziber: yes, that tells you how to upgrade 12.04 desktop to 12.10.  Try the other link...
[00:02] <Ziber> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade ?
[00:02] <jrib> !upgrade
[00:02] <WanderingEnder> EOL is ancient talks about getting up to 10.04 in the future.
[00:02] <Ziber> the upgradenotes one?
[00:03] <jrib> it's true, the documents need some tlc
[00:03] <jrib> Ziber: yes
[00:03] <WanderingEnder> UpgradeNotes stops at 11.04 to 11.10
[00:03] <jrib> Ziber: it gives you the steps, but you may or may not need to change your repositories. We'll help you cross that bridge when you get there
[00:03] <Rage1> Can I use recovery mode to undo an upgrade?
[00:03] <jrib> Rage1: depends on what you mean by "undo"
[00:03] <Ziber> Yeah, I don't see anything about server there.
[00:04] <jrib> Ziber: did you click on the link for your version?
[00:04] <Ziber> oh, nevermind. found it.
[00:04] <Rage1> to reset my computer back to 10.04
[00:04] <WanderingEnder> Ziber: "server" just means there's no GUI.
[00:04] <jrib> Rage1: no
[00:04] <Rage1> aw...
[00:05] <WanderingEnder> I'm running "Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS" which I installed lbuntu on top of. What I do in CLI is no different than on a straight server version.
[00:05] <Slart> !downgrade | Rage1
[00:05] <Rage1> I've been desperately trying to somehow downgrade/reinstall ubuntu back to 10.04
[00:05] <Rage1> and I already know that
[00:05] <WanderingEnder> Heck, this box isn't even in the same country I am in.
[00:05] <jrib> Rage1: what version are you on now?
[00:05] <Rage1> 12.04 LTS
[00:06] <WanderingEnder> Rage1, the way to downgrade is to backup your data and install 10.04.
[00:06] <jrib> Rage1: why do you want to downgrade?
[00:06] <Rage1> constant error messages
[00:06] <WanderingEnder> Why you're doing that, I don't know, but that's the safest way.
[00:06] <Rage1> programs failing
[00:06] <WanderingEnder> About?
[00:06] <jrib> Rage1: like?
[00:06] <Rage1> printer not working
[00:06] <Rage1> uh...
[00:07] <Rage1> stuff like drapes and adblockplus are crashing
[00:07] <crackguy> can I ask CentOS related questions here? #centos is pretty dead if that's okay?
[00:07] <macmartine> Unicorn is all of a sudden failing to start and telling me to look in stderr. Where is that?
[00:07] <jrib> crackguy: only ubuntu here.  Maybe try ##linux
[00:07] <Rage1> and I keep getting a bunch of internal errors
[00:07] <crackguy> jrib, ##linux is dead too! :(
[00:08] <WanderingEnder> Rage1, format your PC, install 10.04. That's how you do it. The proper response is to diagnose wtf is going on, though.
[00:08] <Rage1> I'm not very smart when it comes to computer errors and this stuff
[00:08] <jrib> Rage1: have you tried creating a fresh new user to see if it continues?
[00:08] <Rage1> No.
[00:08] <jrib> Rage1: could be worth a shot
[00:09] <vith> in /etc/apt/preferences when specifying to pin by origin, is the domain name the only way? i want to be more specific than "ppa.launchpad.net". i'm trying to pin ppa:izx/ovz-libc or http://ppa.launchpad.net/izx/ovz-libc/
[00:09] <Rage1> If I create a new user will I have to change a bunch of stuff?
[00:09] <Slart> Rage1: if you're experiencing lots of crashing you might want to run a memory check as well
[00:09] <jrib> Rage1: well you won't retain your customizations but you're doing this to see if the errors stop
[00:10] <Rage1> and do you mean deleting my old user and creating a new one?
[00:10] <WanderingEnder> Rage1, did your PC come with Ubuntu from the store?
[00:10] <jrib> Rage1: no.  Just create a new one
[00:10] <Rage1> NO
[00:10] <Rage1> No
[00:10] <Rage1> I installed it
[00:10] <WanderingEnder> Rage1, do you know how to create a new user?
[00:10] <Rage1> No...
[00:11] <jrib> !pinning | vith
[00:11] <jrib> vith: there's some discussion there.  What do you want to do exactly?
[00:11] <WanderingEnder> That's what I thought. I can't remember the bot trigger for that. I would suggest help.ubuntu.com and search for "create new user"
[00:11] <Rage1> okay
[00:11] <Baribal> Hi again. I'm trying to follow this tutorial to upgrade 12.04 -> 12.10: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades     When running do-release-upgrade, I get no new release offered. Should the value of Prompt in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades something other than lts?
[00:12] <WanderingEnder> Baribal, yes, it should.
[00:12] <jrib> Baribal: yes, see the comments at the top of that file
[00:12] <w3bcrawler> does anyone know which repo's (if any) vmware can be downloaded from? it's not showing up when i use 'apt-cache search vmware'
[00:12] <WanderingEnder> LTS means you won't get a dist upgrade till the next LTS version.
[00:12] <jrib> !vmware | w3bcrawler
[00:12] <WanderingEnder> Which is what, 2014?
[00:12] <jrib> w3bcrawler: not sure there is a repo
[00:12] <Baribal> Okay, thanks, that's stress blindness. ^^
[00:12] <jrib> WanderingEnder: yes
[00:12] <w3bcrawler> Thanks jrib! :D
[00:13] <MK`> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to remember to set the sound device to my headphones when I plug them in? I need to keep doing it manually.
[00:13] <vith> jrib: i want to do something like "Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net/izx/ovz-libc/". will that work with the subdirectories specified that way?
[00:13] <vith> every example i see only has a base domain name after origin
[00:13] <jrib> vith: I'm not sure.  Can't you just pin the package?
[00:14] <jrib> vith: are you trying to make sure only the ppa version is installed?
[00:14] <ozzloy> rhythmbox isn't playing flac for me.  12.04.  i'm unable to find the solution using google (so far).  how do i get flac playback in rhythmbox?
[00:15] <vith> i could, but i thought i could make it easier on myself pinning the whole ppa since there's several packages
[00:15] <vith> but yeah, i'm on an openvz vps with an old kernel version so i have to keep this version of libc installed
[00:15] <vith> now that i'm trying to install build-essential it's getting more complicated
[00:16] <jrib> vith: the debian documentation linked to from ubottu's link tells you about all the possibilities and where the you can find the files with the details for each repository
[00:18] <tripelb> BillyZane: hey am back OK to pm me to .. I need t know what computer you have. Like the current os? Not the brand. And Google install Ubuntu window.     Or Mac depending, while you wait, heh.
[00:19] <questionaire> how to install skype on 12.10 ? i added partner repository by sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" then doing sudo apt-get install skype is of no help also did sudo apt-get install skype-bin skype
[00:19] <jrib> questionaire: what is the output of: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[00:19] <roasted> hello!
[00:19] <gonzojive> I'm getting a kernel-panic on a lived that was working 10 minutes ago
[00:19] <roasted> Question - I have a hard drive here I want to back up. If I use rsync -a, will it effectively back it up? Or should I just use dd or clonezilla?
[00:20] <gonzojive> that is the livecd hangs at the loading screen
[00:20] <roasted> back up as in, I want to transfer the entire OS too
[00:20] <gonzojive> but before it was booting up properly.  this is 12.04
[00:20] <questionaire> jrib: no output on screen for dpkg --print-foreign-architectures commad completes thats it
[00:21] <jrib> questionaire: output of "uname -m"?
[00:21] <questionaire> jrib: x86_64
[00:21] <kunji> roasted: dd rescue works well, using dd without the rescue bit doesn't do any error checking if I recall correctly
[00:22] <jrib> questionaire: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update   # then try installing skype again
[00:22] <goddard> my system takes 140 seconds to start
[00:22] <goddard> hey can some one help me with this boot chart http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o667/Ryein/goddard-G73Jw-quantal-20121203-1_zps93aa7231.png
[00:22] <bond__> Does anybody here know how to check MTU size in ubuntu?
[00:23] <Slart> bond__: ifconfig or ethtool perhaps?
[00:23] <questionaire> jrib: i was following this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/215298/unable-to-install-skype-on-12-10-64bit also did wget command but at 21-22% it said can't read source try again later
[00:23] <kunji> bond__: yeah ifconfig will show it
[00:23] <tripelb> Have 2002 powerpc iMac 384M RAM and booting the "12.04 desktop ppc-mac liveCD" (Precise)  starts up with a text screen, but gives no chance to check disk integrity,. After that, from that shell, all my tries to boot ubuntu from the liveCD are UNsuccessful. Anyone up for helping?
[00:25] <bond__> thanks kunji and Slart,  do you also know how to check for Tcp initial window size? /proc/sys/net/ivp4/ didn't helped me
[00:25] <kunji> tripelb: Hey, I've been reading up on it, but while I did have it work in the past, I didn't encounter the same problems you did, so I'm probably not going to be that much help.  I'll send anything I find that fits those symptoms your way though.
[00:25] <javierf_> Hi! I installed fresh ubuntu last time in 11.04, being upgrading since them until 12.10. But I carry some minor bugs, little things that don't work anymore as they should. I've decided to format my hard drive and install everything from new, but after so long time there are many things I will loose, like the applications installed. Is there a way to save the list of what I have installed and use it after the ubuntu install to have them back? thanks!
[00:25] <jrib> !clone | javierf_
[00:26] <questionaire> jrib: ??
[00:26] <jrib> questionaire: did you try what I said?
[00:26] <kunji> bond__:initial window size, hmm, haven't got a clue, I've got a feeling it's done by the driver and there might not be a standard way to check it, that's just a guess though.
[00:27] <mantfire> hi hi
[00:27] <Slart> bond__: I have no ideas either.. googling didn't really turn up anything useful
[00:27] <mantfire> i have some error upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 with update  manager
[00:27] <ixio2b> guys /dev/sda is giving me grief, ATA errors etc. I have added a new disk of the same size. I want to dd /dev/sda to /dev/vdb... but is there a way I can DD only the used data on the disk.. its a 1TB disk with only 12GB being used. I dont want to DD 98% of zeros
[00:28] <bond__> Slart: googling didn't help me either :(
[00:28] <bekks> ixio2b: No, there is no such tool on the level where dd operates.
[00:28] <holysin> use windows instead
[00:28] <mantfire> i found my error here  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1015567
[00:28] <bond__> kunji: its not done by driver. I am sure about that
[00:28] <mantfire> but the script there dont solve the problem
[00:29] <kunji> bekks: I believe you can dd a partition or even just a folder, let me double check though
[00:29] <agent> Hi there. I've upgraded to 10.04 and keep having problems with the wireless. First it was dropping, I sorted it. Now it isn't connecting. It is staying in Airplane mode. I've tried some forum suggestions. Could anyone suggest something? Thanks
[00:29] <agent> 12.04, sorry
[00:29] <javierf_> !automate
[00:30] <bekks> kunji: You can dd a partition, but the logical used content of a filesystem, neither a folder.
[00:30] <javierf_> !automate | javierf
[00:30] <kunji> bekks: Hmm, but you can for an image file
[00:31] <bekks> kunji: No. Even for an image file, you cant dd just a single file from within your image file.
[00:31] <Slart> does dd even know about files and such? isn't it all just blocks?
[00:31] <vith> jrib: alright, i think i got it with "Pin: release o=LP-PPA-izx-ovz-libc" which i got from apt-get policy. thanks
[00:31] <jrib> vith: cool
[00:31] <bekks> Slart: dd has no clue about filesystems.
[00:31] <kunji> ixio2b: So I think you could shrink your partition with gparted, then use dd-rescue to copy it.  You take the risk that something could go wrong during the partition shrinking though.
[00:32] <kunji> bekks: I didn't mean a single file from the image, but what I meant was the image file is a single file in your filesystem... so it's not correct to say it can't at all
[00:33] <Slart> bekks: mm.. thought so =) thanks
[00:33] <questionaire> jrib: it is showing for install now....but its showing 149MB data for installation,,,,,is it ok....skype file from MS is only 25-35mb something
[00:33] <bekks> kunji: dd can handle block devices, and it treats an image file as a block device.
[00:33] <javierf_> if I want to replicate my packages in a fresh install of ubuntu, I will repeat the minor bugs I'm experiencing now, am not I? (because I will keep my home configutation files)
[00:33] <jrib> questionaire: you probably need some dependencies.  I don't know
[00:34] <jrib> javierf_: if the erratic behavior is caused by your configuration, sure.  Why don't you create a fresh new user and see if the "bugs" go away/
[00:34] <javierf_> jrib: that's a very good idea, I'll try that. thanls
[00:34] <questionaire> jrib: its shwing 2 screen full of packages
[00:35] <jrib> questionaire: skype uses 32-bit packages, so that may be possible
[00:35] <questionaire> hmm
[00:37] <questionaire> look at these---are these good enough ?? http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-latest-skype-41-in-ubuntu.html and http://www.tecmint.com/install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-xubuntu-linux-mint/
[00:37] <questionaire> jrib: ^^^
[00:37] <emx> i noticed that when a process was idle for a certain period of time i sort of have to wake it up. e.g. the terminal: i press down the enter key and a command prompt appears. a certain time passes and another one appears. the intervals get shorter and shorter until it behaves as expected. can i pass a kernel parameter or something to change this "waking-up behaviour" to "just do your job"?
[00:37] <jrib> questionaire: what's wrong with the repositories?
[00:38] <questionaire> jrib: nothing but on the above 2 links its only 3 stpes with different files
[00:38] <jrib> questionaire: use the repository version
[00:39] <ixio2b> how would I find *.vmdk
[00:39] <questionaire> ok...but if u'll look at those for few seconds then good enough just 6 lines of commands to read
[00:40] <jrib> questionaire: I saw them
[00:40] <questionaire> ok...they are not worth ?
[00:40] <jrib> questionaire: if you use the repositories, then you'll get updates automatically
[00:40] <questionaire> ohh
[00:40] <questionaire> ok
[00:40] <jrib> questionaire: if you don't want that for some reason, you can go to skype.com, download the .deb, and double click on it.  Then you have to take care of updates though
[00:40] <questionaire> ok
[00:41] <questionaire> but again i doubt that i'll need deps coz the version supplied is i386
[00:41] <josh_> anybody here know about ubuntuforums.org?  I've been trying to log in all day with my launchpad ID, and it just doesn't work
[00:41] <krabador_> i need help to reinstall nouveau drivers fully working. i used the package run from nvidia, but with today's kernel upgrade, it don't want to work again after the uninstallation/reinstallation like every kernel upgrade
[00:42] <krabador_> please help me
[00:42] <jrib> josh_: #ubuntuforums
[00:42] <questionaire> jrib: i have marked them for installation....but now if i do aptoncd and backup then will i be able to install them again afterwards ?
[00:43] <jrib> questionaire: I don't know about aptoncd
[00:43] <topper4125> !nouveau
[00:43] <camper123> i need help with installing ubuntu
[00:43] <topper4125> did you try that wiki krabador?
[00:44] <krabador_> topper4125, yes, but now i've in use a non properly working version of nouveau
[00:44] <topper4125> !install | camper123
[00:44] <djxvillain> I need some hardcore help, is this an appropriate channel?
[00:44] <questionaire> jrib: there were some suggested packages also but i have left them....only installing default ones
[00:45] <josh_> djxvillain: sorry, pron is prohibited on freenode
[00:45] <krabador_> topper4125, i used nvidia173 from nvidia site, until today. today i've done the kernel update, in the today's updates, in my 12.10
[00:45] <komradefox> i have a dual-boot of 12.04 and win8. and i'd like to reinstall 12.04. can i just create a live disk, run it, and format my current ubuntu partition, and then reinstall?
[00:45] <djxvillain> josh:  very nice.  hahaha.  Is this a good channel for some video driver related issues?
[00:45] <josh_> ask and see
[00:46] <krabador_> topper4125, and they stop working. Not so bad, every kernel updates they do it, and i ever reinstalled it later
[00:46] <krabador_> topper4125, but after today's update, they don't want to works again, like some incompatibility
[00:46] <topper4125> komradefox, yes that will work perfectly
[00:47] <komradefox> topper4125: grat, thanks :D
[00:47] <topper4125> krabador_, k lemme do some digging, I think I have notes on this somewhere
[00:47] <mega1> i have a small problem when i use putty and type exit it useto close now it does not anyone know why
[00:48] <djxvillain> Sooo, on my laptop I was trying to update my video driver because I noticed these strange graphical glitches constantly.  Well, I followed an online 'tutorial' and now my laptop won't even boot up.  Here's the site I used:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_12.6.2C_special_case_for_Intel.2BAC8-AMD_hybrid_graphics
[00:48] <krabador_> topper4125, the nouveau version i'm using now, by default, it's not properly workinf
[00:48] <krabador_> *working
[00:48] <djxvillain> I'm freaking out.
[00:49] <magn3ts> Let's play a game. Name a gstreamer based music player and I will personally guarantee that I can crash it with my music library.
[00:50] <topper4125> krabador_ do you want to use the 173 drivers?
[00:50] <kunji> magn3ts: gstreamer never really worked for me... ever, I just grab vlc right away
[00:50] <magn3ts> Haha, banshee won't even open. Rhythmbox opens for 10 seconds. Noise will open but will freeze on a FLAC file and then will fail to ever unstick even after closing/reopening.
[00:51]  * magn3ts doesn't even have that much music
[00:51] <kunji> magn3ts: any  .ape files in your mix? :P
[00:51] <magn3ts> Hm, not sure. I could check. My `find` fu is weak thoguh
[00:52] <krabador_> topper4125, i must, because nouveau, with my card, are really slow
[00:52] <tripelb> Hi kunji can I pm you?
[00:52] <krabador_> topper4125, and my card is supported only in 173
[00:52] <brizilubuntu> how can i install windows 7 onto my external hard drive with ubuntu 12.04
[00:52] <kunji> tripelb: Sure, though I haven't found anything new yet T.T
[00:53] <topper4125> does this solution work for you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/186801/restoring-nvidia-drivers-from-older-version-of-ubuntu-to-new-version-on-disk
[00:53] <topper4125> or is the 173 completely not working after todays update?
[00:53] <tripelb> josh_:  I thim
[00:53] <krabador_> topper4125, yes, i've the issue, but i ignored it, by using nvidia official
[00:53] <tripelb> josh_:  I think you might  to register again
[00:54] <tripelb> josh_: use the same userid
[00:54] <krabador_> topper4125, yes the 173 official nvidia .run package are not working after today's update
[00:54] <Rage1> jtlap?
[00:54] <krabador_> topper4125, i uninstall it and reinstall it, but nothing
[00:54] <brizilubuntu> how can i install windows 7 onto my external hard drive with ubuntu 12.04
[00:55] <josh_> tripelb: right now I'm too pissed off to want to have anything to do with ubuntuforums
[00:55] <brizilubuntu> any one can help
[00:55] <josh_> tripelb: maybe I'll feel better about it tommorrow
[00:55] <krabador_> topper4125, every kernel update i must reinstall it, but ever with no problems
[00:55] <tripelb> kunji: OK PS I was macppcgal for a bit
[00:55] <agent> Hi there. I've upgraded to 10.04 and keep having problems with the wireless. First it was dropping, I sorted it. Now it isn't connecting. It is staying in Airplane mode. I've tried some forum suggestions. Could anyone suggest something? Thanks
[00:55] <agent> 12.04
[00:55] <topper4125> hmm... krabador_ I'll have to do some quick reading on what exactly heppened in todays update to see what the changes were... is the issue bad enough for you that you could revert to the older kernel or do you need the newest one for other reasons?
[00:55] <Rage1> can someone help me with a problem with my printer in 12.04?
[00:55] <bekks> brizilubuntu: As long as you cant install Win7 on your external, Ubuntu cant help you.
[00:55] <kunji> tripelb: Yeah I saw that :P
[00:56] <topper4125> !cups | Ragel
[00:56] <krabador_> topper4125, no, no reason to use the newest
[00:56] <dr_willis> airplane mode on a computer? never noticed that befor
[00:56] <krabador_> topper4125, i can come back to the older with no problems
[00:56] <tripelb> Can I install Ubuntu on a ppc Mac not GUI as I can see the text as it messes up?
[00:56] <Rage1> I just need help with the printer not printing
[00:56] <brizilubuntu> u mean we cant install windows 7 on external hard drive
[00:56] <brizilubuntu> ?
[00:56] <kunji> dr_willis: lol, yeah, it's because of the "Convergence"... the phone and tv stuff
[00:56] <tompa> Hello how do i change my file manager to show folders in list view?
[00:56] <bekks> brizilubuntu: Thats a question for ##windows
[00:57] <topper4125> krabador_ I'm not saying that's the *only* solution to this issue, but it maybe the fastest if its a bit of a problem for you.
[00:57] <dr_willis> tripelb:   Ive had Ubuntu on my old PPC mac. but i always had problems with it. and the mac was so old.. it was a hassle. but it should be doable
[00:57] <Rage1> the printer works
[00:57] <brizilubuntu> i have ubuntu ?
[00:57] <Rage1> but there's something wrong with the configuration
[00:57] <KoolAid> I'm not finding any help with my question. Is there a more suitable channel to ask in?
[00:57] <Rage1> ##linuz
[00:57] <Rage1> ##linux
[00:57] <mega1> i have a small problem when i use putty and type exit it useto close now it does not anyone know why
[00:58] <w3bcrawler> tompa: that depends on the file manager you're using. I'm using 'thunar' and it's in the 'View' menu.
[00:58] <krabador_> topper4125, i must use the nvidia official with this videocard, because nouveau are really really slow
[00:58] <brizilubuntu> so shal i reinstall windows on my laptop an then create an external hard drive fro ubuntu 12.04
[00:58] <krabador_> topper4125, unusable
[00:58] <brizilubuntu> will that work
[00:58] <krabador_> topper4125,  it's a shitty geforce fx 5900
[00:58] <Rage1> topper4125
[00:58] <dr_willis> brizilubuntu:  ive ran ubuntu from external usb hds, works decently well
[00:59] <topper4125> krabador_ k... looking to see what was in todays update and if anything is mentioned about the 173
[00:59] <Haematoma> Anyone have experience configuring postfix or CLI email?
[00:59] <w3bcrawler> tompa: If there's a 'Help' menu, go to 'About' and perhaps try Googling how to change settings in your file manager (probably either nautilus or thunar)
[00:59] <KoolAid> I tried re-installing an earlier version when I encountered the problem before. I later did a partial update before the up-grade. I'm having problems since the upgrade
[00:59] <Haematoma> I'm attempting to set up postfix to use with mail so that I can send myself update emails at the end of a maintenance script.
[00:59] <brizilubuntu> how can i can you give me the link or else any other option i am new to this please
[01:00] <tompa> w3bcrawler im using the one which is default in 12.04
[01:00] <bekks> brizilubuntu: The channel you have to ask wether you can install Win7 on an external disk is ##windows
[01:00] <dr_willis> brizilubuntu:  i install to external same as i do internal. I  always manually partion and tell it where to put / at on the  external (same as i do on internal) and be sure grub installs to the external also.
[01:00] <bekks> brizilubuntu: Currently, you are in #ubuntu
[01:00] <w3bcrawler> tompa: are you using Gnome or KDE?
[01:00] <dr_willis> brizilubuntu:  or just unplug the internal so you onluy have an external. :) then you cant make a mistake
[01:00] <Rage1> topper4125: for some reason the printer works and everything, but it says that the configuration is wrong.
[01:00] <KoolAid> Has anyone else encountered the problem of "Airplanemode" on and unable to disable it?
[01:01] <tompa> w3bcrawler im using unity
[01:01] <trickyj> Hi all
[01:02] <KoolAid> I was looking for a place to deal with questions about Ubuntu. I keep finding this channel and the forum. Where can I find information?
[01:02] <KoolAid> I am not getting any responses
[01:03] <topper4125> krabador_ Really not finding anything new for the fx 5900 since mid December, nothing about the latest update...
[01:03] <Rage1> !airplane | KoolAid
[01:03] <eduardo__> join #ubuntu-br
[01:03] <brizilubuntu> bekks: so can i install windows 7 on external hard drive with the help of ubuntu 12.04? If so how?
[01:03] <eduardo__> join  #ubuntu-br
[01:03] <kunji> KoolAid: you can find information in both places: I haven't had the problem you're having though, I've never turned on airplane mode.  On IRC you need to be patient... very patient, and if you annoy people they won't answer you at all even if they know :P
[01:03] <krabador_> topper4125, ok i'll use the older kernel
[01:03] <brizilubuntu> i don't really know ?
[01:03] <krabador_> topper4125, i thanx you
[01:03] <Rage1> !airplanemode  | KoolAid
[01:03] <topper4125> Ragel Printer make/model?
[01:04] <Rage1> what do you mean
[01:04] <Rage1> ?
[01:04] <vlad_91> ;
[01:04] <KoolAid> thanks kunji. I never enabled airplane mode to begin with.
[01:04] <topper4125> krabador_ you're welcome, wish I could have been a bit more helpful...
[01:04] <brizilubuntu> if not can u let me now the alternate bcoz i need windows
[01:05] <kunji> KoolAid: Yeah, I've never had it start on either though, I have no idea how it interacts with the rest of networking on Ubuntu.
[01:05] <topper4125> Ragel the printer you are having problems with, is it a HP 2112 for example?
[01:05] <Rage1> It's a canon ip2600
[01:05] <KoolAid> I closed my wireless connection to use a wire. Hasn't come back on since and I keep trying different things. Don't really want to re-install if I can repair it.
[01:05] <aguitel> how install nvidia-173 in 12.10 ?
[01:05] <mega1> briziubuntu you cant use ubuntu to install windows 7 you can only install windows from cd or iso image
[01:05] <magiK_> I do have to say that Xubuntu loads allot faster than the regular Ubuntu,  I do have the option for both but running in Xubuntu mode seems to go a heck of allot faster.
[01:05] <ajrossnz> hi everyone. Does anyone know how to paste text in xterm using a mac keyboard? I can't seem to get it workinghey everyone. Does anyone know how to paste text in xterm using a mac keyboard? I can't seem to get it working
[01:06] <kunji> KoolAid: There's this: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html  But it makes no mention of Airplane Mode whatsoever T.T
[01:06] <topper4125> Ragel, have you tried this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129350
[01:07] <Rage1> I don't use archlinux, topper4125
[01:07] <brizilubuntu> mega1 ok i got that but after creating a CD of windows 7  i dont know how to proceed
[01:07] <kunji> topper4125: I think it's Rage1 not Ragel.  (One not Ell)
[01:07] <Rage1> yesh :D
[01:08] <topper4125> The Arch solution uses cups... same as ubuntu... should be comperable Rage1 (sorry for the typo.. not on my system and this IRC client is 'odd')
[01:08] <topper4125> maybe not the same... but comperable
[01:08] <KoolAid> thanks kunji. I don't know what's causing it. I had a dropping connection and that fixed. Now I just want to be able to connect via wireless too.
[01:08] <Rage1> ah I see
[01:08] <tripelb> Uh oh. No posts here means lots most connection
[01:09] <tripelb> Lost
[01:09] <tripelb> In cyberspace
[01:09] <tripelb> No one can hear me
[01:09] <kunji> tripelb: I can here you!
[01:09] <topper4125> Rage1, should give you a step in the right direction.
[01:09] <kunji> *hear.. lol
[01:10] <un2him> MagiK...I'm trying xubuntu as well as mint xfce.  Lots to like (speed), but I always end up going back to stock ubuntu
[01:10] <Rage1> it doesn't really mention anything about configuration problems
[01:10] <mega1> brizilubuntu: you have to be very carfull make sure you know where you are installing to and windows 7 may replace the mbr of you internal hd and you may have to repair it when you are finshed but you have to boot into the cd to install windows 7
[01:13] <brizilubuntu> is their any link explaining abt installation of windows onto external drive please can u give the step sothat it may be easy..
[01:14] <brizilubuntu> mega1: Is their any link explaining abt installation of windows onto external drive please can u give the step sothat it may be easy..
[01:14] <Rage1> can someone at all help with an error in my canon ip2600 printer?
[01:15] <zg> I run realvnc on my server and was wondering if it's possible to keep it running while I am logged out of the machine
[01:15] <MarcN> Any pointers on debugging the IDE on WinXP/7/8? The serial/usb driver is not installing.  I'm helping FIRST Robotics kids and *none* of the kids' laptops properly load the driver provided with the 1.0.3 windows kit.
[01:16] <mega1> brizilubuntu: its not that hard once you boot into the cd there is a big buttion called install now click it next pick hd after that it will be installed
[01:16] <dr_willis> zg:  thats how vnc normally works for me.
[01:16] <MarcN> IDE 1.0.1 works great on *my* Ubuntu laptop, but the student's aren't up for that...
[01:16] <dr_willis> zg:  i ssh in, start a vncserver with a remote/hidden desktop. it stays  in the bacckground if i  disconnect/reconnect the vnc client
[01:17] <brizilubuntu> mega1: thanks i will try ;-)
[01:17] <MarcN> oops! Wrong window.  Sorry...
[01:17] <zg> you ssh in, but I don't want to enable that capability ;)
[01:18] <dr_willis> zg:   the question is do you want to see the CURRENT visible  desktop. or have a hidden desktop session
[01:18] <mega1> does anyone know why when i putty into my server and type exit it does not close the putty window
[01:18] <dr_willis> You can spawn a vnc session from rc.local at boot time and it will stay running untill you close it
[01:18] <brizilubuntu> I have on more problem i recently brought a Epson XP 405 printer and i install the drivers but in does't detect it can any one help me with it?
[01:19] <robman> heya - anyone have any tips on how to get tproxy enabled on 12.04LTS
[01:19] <zg> dr_willis: I downloaded the proprietary software from realvnc.com, so i'm not sure
[01:19] <dr_willis> mega1:  first guess.. its a putty setting to close window on disconnect
[01:19] <dr_willis> zg:  theres no need to get realvnc from them. theres dozens of vncservers in the repos
[01:19] <dr_willis> !info tightvnc
[01:19] <mega1> it closes when i connect to my frends server
[01:19] <dr_willis> !find tightvnc
[01:19] <zg> dr_willis: I prefer realvnc
[01:20] <dr_willis> then i guess you  should read the realvnc docs.. all the vnc servers work about the same
[01:20] <compdoc> I like vnc4server - also in the repos
[01:20] <zg> theirs doesn't work the same
[01:20] <dr_willis> then you should definatly be reading their docs
[01:20] <zg> their latest version doesn't work with other clients trying to connect -- you need their client :/
[01:20] <dr_willis> sounds liek a good reason to NOT use realvnc then
[01:21] <kunji> I'll second that
[01:21] <zg> http://vnc.com/products/vnc/
[01:21] <brizilubuntu> I recently brought a Epson XP 405 printer and tried printing it can any one help me with it?
[01:22] <dr_willis> the thing people comming from windows have a hard time understanding is that vnc can have  several 'hidden' desktops running in the background that you only see via a vnc client. which is differnt from shareing the current visible desktop.
[01:22] <dr_willis> in windows vnc can only share the current desktop (last i looked)
[01:22] <zg> is this related to the "tty" numbers that I see in the `who'
[01:22] <dr_willis> in linux, it can do it either way
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[01:23] <mega1> dr_willis: it will close when i connect to my frieds server
[01:23] <dr_willis> mega1:  if you set up vnc right. it will stay in the background.
[01:23] <dr_willis> if you set it up a differnt way it spawns on connection, then closes on disconnect
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[01:24] <zg> my vnc is setup to start when logged in
[01:24] <dr_willis> thats why it closes on exit then.
[01:24] <zg> it "spawns" on login, and goes away on disconnect
[01:24] <zg> on logout*
[01:24] <zg> spawns at login, "despawns" on logout
[01:25] <zg> I've always had issues setting up alternatives
[01:25] <dr_willis> i can start a tightvnc session with openbox. and leave it rinning in the background, i can then logoiut  and then connect to the vnc session from any vnc client. the desktop stays running
[01:25] <zg> finding clients that are cross-platform, etc..
[01:25] <zg> when I found realvnc, everything worked, I didn't have any issues
[01:25] <dr_willis> most vnc clients/servers are cross platform..   except aparently realvnc
[01:25] <dr_willis> i use tightvnc with vnc4server,  with tigervnc. with.. i cant think of the others.
[01:25] <dr_willis> several vnc clients on my phone'
[01:26] <zg> i'm gonna look into vnc now
[01:26] <zg> on ubuntu store
[01:26] <dr_willis> freenx is better then vnc in many ways
[01:26] <dr_willis> store? its in the default repos. :) no need to buy anything in the store.
[01:26] <zg> I just installed one called X11VNC Server
[01:26] <dr_willis> x11vnc shares the CURRENT desktop.
[01:27] <zg> err, Software center, my mistake
[01:27] <dr_willis> it works the same as VINO does in gnome.
[01:27] <zg> so, if I want to remotely control my ubuntu desktop (at home) from anywhere, what would your recommendation be
[01:27] <dr_willis> so to use it you have to login locally first and never logout locally
[01:27] <dr_willis> vnc across the  internat would require ssh tunnles also. so not  the  best way to do it
[01:28] <dr_willis> across the internet.. i just ssh. I  dont use a desktop/or vnc.
[01:28] <zg> I also want to be able to reboot remotely and be able to still remotely control
[01:28] <dr_willis> 3g/4g can be real laggy when doing it from the internet on my phone i find.
[01:29] <zg> hm, I might as well just setup ssh
[01:29] <zg> err, you know, get a better password setup,  a different port, etc etc.
[01:29] <dr_willis> ssh is the sort of thing you should DEFINATLY have if you want to remote into your pc
[01:29] <zg> yeah
[01:29] <zg> I should setup private/public keys instead of passwords
[01:29] <dr_willis> yep. i do that normally but it can be a pain
[01:30] <dr_willis> like i try a new ssh client.. got to figure out how to import the keys first..
[01:30] <zg> putty all the way :D
[01:30] <zg> (if windows)
[01:30] <dr_willis> windows? who uses that any more
[01:30] <zg> since yesterday? not me
[01:30] <dr_willis> Im on my android phone right now
[01:31] <dr_willis> i irc into my znc zerver on my raspberry pi linux box. ;)  then get here via znc
[01:31] <dr_willis> i can ssh into my pcs if i wanted to also.. but rarely  need to these days.
[01:33] <dr_willis> and putty has some really annoying 'quirks' ;)
[01:33] <dr_willis> but its the windows mindset.. its what everyone uses and has used.. so no  one wants to try to  change/find somthing better
[01:34] <zg> znc is the most epic software evar
[01:34] <dr_willis> putty + xming is handy if you got a ubuntu box on the lan (or linux box)
[01:34] <dr_willis> you can ssh x forward to the windows box and see gui apps on windows then.
[01:34] <zg> the best part is that I've been "connected" since january 3rd, lol
[01:35] <zg> where is the sshd port configuration on ubuntu? I can't seem to find it
[01:35] <dr_willis>  /etc/ssh/sshd*
[01:35] <dr_willis> near the top
[01:35] <zg> no sshd* stuff in there
[01:36] <dr_willis> perhaps you dont have the ssh server installed then
[01:36] <zg> yeah
[01:36] <zg> that's what I was thinking
[01:36] <dr_willis> setup fail2ban and logwatch also to see if anyones trying to break in to your ssh ports. ;)
[01:36] <dr_willis> changeing port #'s is  not really mich of a security improvement.
[01:39] <zg> huh?
[01:39] <zg> you mean znc supports ssh?
[01:39] <zg> or that's how you connect? I don't want to connect to znc
[01:43] <brizilubuntu> I recently brought a Epson XP 405 printer and tried printing it can any one help me with it?
[01:44] <dr_willis> i set my irc client on my phone to connect to the znc port on the pc
[01:44] <dr_willis> you could ssh tunnle if  you  wanted i guess
[01:44] <ShawnRisk> how come my hard drive on my laptop is making noise?   I know this might be because of the spinning but how do I make this stop?
[01:44] <zg> nah, I just want to connect to ssh over a different port
[01:45] <dr_willis> thats like l one of the first settings in the sshd config files
[01:45] <cmj141> Gtk-Message **: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 103, <> line 2.
[01:45] <cmj141>  
[01:45] <cmj141> is this bad
[01:45] <kunji> ShawnRisk: honestly you don't... unless you've got access to a cleanroom and lots of specialized tools.  You backup everything and budget for a new drive when the current one fails.
[01:46] <dr_willis> hard drives are the weakest link in pc hardware these days it seems..    they can fail at any time
[01:46] <RollinV2> cmj141: i think i know the fix, i just removed that problem from my system
[01:46] <ShawnRisk> kunji: this is not loud just noise is coming from the computer.
[01:47] <cmj141> RollinV2 : im all ears... i mean eyes
[01:48] <dr_willis> hard drive starts making weird noises.. time to make sure you  got current backups
[01:48] <RollinV2> cmj141: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518796/
[01:49] <RollinV2> cmj141: hope it works for you, i spent about 20min using google fu to find those solutions
[01:49] <ShawnRisk> ok
[01:49] <sceleus> I am having some serious ubuntu graphics driver issues
[01:50] <cmj141> ill let u know thx!
[01:50] <sceleus> Running a nvidia gtx 550 TI and tried to install the graphics drivers and now my screen is stuck in 1024x768 mode and the entire OS scrolls when I move the mouse to the edge of the screen.
[01:51] <mega1> in ubuntu server 12.04 how do i format unpatictioned hd
[01:51] <bentinata> how can I create an global-menu on xfce4-panel?
[01:51] <bentinata> mega1, use disk-manager
[01:52] <bentinata> mega1, palimpsest
[01:52] <jsebean> hello all, I am trying to install the Ubuntu BCM4312 drivers on my computer. Usually it installs automatically but for some reason with ubuntu 12.10 64bit it wont, any ideas what deb packages I can download to install it manually?
[01:53] <zg> how do I change my ubuntu apt-get mirrors
[01:53] <zg> the mirror I'm on is horribly slow
[01:53] <jsebean> the bcm4312 is actually working off of my USB stick but the install wont
[01:53] <jsebean> I have no ethernet so I cannot install it from the repos.
[01:54] <bentinata> zg, software-properties-gtk
[01:55] <zg> bentinata: where is that? /etc?
[01:55] <bentinata> zg, no. open terminal and type "sudo software-properties-gtk"
[01:55] <zg> oh nice
[01:57] <KsM> jsebean: BCM4312 needs broadcom's proprietary "wl" kernel module, so you'd have to enable restricted repos/packages
[01:57] <KsM> not sure if ubuntu still uses jockey-gtk, that might have the package that provides wl
[01:58] <djxvillain> Sooo, on my laptop I was trying to update my video driver because I noticed these strange graphical glitches constantly.  Well, I followed an online 'tutorial' and now my laptop won't even boot up.  Here's the site I used:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_12.6.2C_special_case_for_Intel.2BAC8-AMD_hybrid_graphics
[01:58] <lombardo> does ubuntu usually listen on udp port 39166 and 5353?
[02:02] <dr_willis> in 12.10 the addiditional-drivers tool is in a tab under the software-sources tool
[02:03] <dr_willis> lombardo:  theres no default services.. so by default it dosent listen to any ports
[02:03] <zg> any ideas why mount.ntfs is taking up a lot of CPU?
[02:03] <zg> (I used wubi to install ubuntu)
[02:03] <dr_willis> because your whole ubuntu system is on a ntfs drive
[02:03] <dr_willis> in a file on a ntfs filesystem
[02:04] <dr_willis> most people in here learn to avoid wubi. ;)
[02:04] <bekks> zg: It is a design problem and one of the caveats of a filesystem implementation in userspace.
[02:04] <zg> any way to move that into it's own dual-boot and access hardware directly?
[02:04] <zg> without reinstalling everything? :(
[02:04] <dr_willis> theres tools out there to convert a wubi install to a hd install
[02:04] <dr_willis> might be easier to just reinstall.
[02:04] <66MAAHTUC> Hello all! Can anyone recommend a good how to, tutorial on how to setup sshJails on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or higher?
[02:04] <bentinata> huh, I use wubi, but my system on ext4
[02:05] <dr_willis> wubi installs into a file thats got ext4 INSIDE the file. mounted via the loop  back features
[02:05] <dr_willis> its still on a windows drive. Unless its gained some new features.
[02:06] <KI4RO> I have a Canon PIXMA 280 plugged into a USB port on my wife's UBUNTU machine that works fine from her machine.  Now I am trying to access it from my machine with address 192.168.0.100:9100 but I don't seem able to print to it.  Any ideas?
[02:06] <zg> does ubuntu detect windows installations automatically
[02:06] <dr_willis> zg:  normally yes
[02:06] <Dougie187> In gnome classic, how do you change the modified button for move window?
[02:06] <dr_willis> KI4RO:  use the cups web interface on her machine. make sure the thing is setup to share the printer/server to the network perhaps.
[02:06] <Dougie187> Like, changing alt to super
[02:07] <KI4RO> dr_willis, CUPS web interface?
[02:07] <undertaker> i'm hav[ing issues burning an iso to a disc
[02:07] <dr_willis> Dougie187:  you mean  the alt-click anywhere to move a window feature?
[02:07] <undertaker> incredibly aggravating
[02:07] <dr_willis> KI4RO:  yes.  the cups server  has a web interface on http:// localhost:631
[02:07] <bentinata> dr_willis, if I format the disk with wubi
[02:08] <magiK_> I've been using the Xubuntu desktop instead of Unity and I haven't gotten any crashes yet so I think I'm going to be sticking with this for awhile.
[02:08] <bentinata> dr_willis, is my system still ntfs?
[02:08] <eduardo> join #ubuntubr
[02:08] <bekks> bentinata: You do not format any disks using wubi :)
[02:08] <Dougie187> dr_willis: yeah. I want to change it from alt to super.
[02:08] <KI4RO> dr_willis, I'll have a look
[02:08] <dr_willis> bentinata:   wubi installs ubuntu to a file on the windows drive.. not sure what you  formated..
[02:08] <66MAAHTUC> Hello all! Can anyone recommend a good how to, tutorial on how to setup sshJails on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or higher?
[02:08] <Dougie187> dr_willis: but in gnome classic. not unity.
[02:08] <dr_willis> Dougie187:  the alt-click thing is a feature of X> its the same reguardles sof window manager/desktop i  belive
[02:09] <undertaker> can anyone help with an .iso burning issue?
[02:09] <bentinata> I booted with an USB stick, it's wubi right?
[02:09] <Dougie187> dr_willis: well, in unity I can change it with ccsm, under the "Move windows" section. But I'm not sure how to change it in no effects gnome classic, when it doesn't have compiz running
[02:09] <bentinata> or wubi is just installation on windows?
[02:09] <magiK_> bentinata, no wubi is ran from inside windows
[02:09] <eduardo> eii
[02:09] <eduardo>  gente
[02:09] <magiK_> bentinata, do not use wubi it is very slow
[02:10] <dr_willis> well wubi installs from insode windows.. but you boot the wubi install and are not RUNNING wubi inside windows.
[02:10] <bentinata> thanks dr_willis, magiK_, bekks
[02:10] <dr_willis> its just ON a windows partition/filesytem
[02:10] <magiK_> dr_willis, Even so wubi is significantly slower
[02:10] <magiK_> dr_willis, and you will need to defragment your harddrive often.
[02:10] <dr_willis> it will be slower.. never seen any benchmarks
[02:11] <magiK_> dr_willis, I use to run ubuntu through wubi and it fragmented my hd so fast it's not even funny
[02:11] <dr_willis> that dosent make sence - the ubuntu hd file is a single huge file made at install...
[02:11] <dr_willis> so i cant imagine  why it would fragment the windows install over time.
[02:11] <magiK_> dr_willis, so I switched to a full install. more speed and don't have to worry about fragmentation issues because you have the full ext4 filesystem.
[02:12] <dr_willis> i dont use wubi. so i dont worry about wubi
[02:12] <bentinata> why people use wubi? basic installation isn't so difficult
[02:12] <undertaker> can anyone help with an .iso burning issue?
[02:12] <dr_willis> i keep waiting for wubi to get removed from the  disks
[02:12] <magiK_> dr_willis, ;) yeah wubi is cool just for someone to try out and see if they will like ubuntu
[02:13] <dr_willis> undertaker:  clarify the issue.
[02:13] <undertaker> well, i'm trying to mount this ubuntu studio .iso to a disc
[02:13] <djxvillain> Can someone please help me with this error:  "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Please, please, please help me.  It's on my wife's laptop and she has a lot of data on there that we can't afford to lose.  Please help.
[02:13] <Pacman_> Hey When i do Apt-get update i got Static ip set but got these errors http://pastie.org/private/3r6x6badmz377saqjjvvra
[02:13] <undertaker> acetone iso can't find my disk drive
[02:13] <dr_willis> undertaker:  you mean mount the iso to a directory?
[02:13] <undertaker> the mounter that comes with ubuntu won't even open
[02:14] <undertaker> i... have no clue
[02:14] <undertaker> i just want to get ubuntu studio and it told me to mount it to a disc
[02:14] <dr_willis> undertaker:  you BURN to an actual disk/optical drive.. you MOUNT to a directory
[02:14] <Dougie187> dr_willis: I got it. I had to use dconf-editor. Just in case you were curious. Thanks. :D
[02:14] <dr_willis> I dont see how mounting the iso will acomplish much.. whats your end goal?
[02:14] <dr_willis> Dougie187:  i dont even rember the original problem
[02:14] <Pacman_> Can someone please help Me
[02:14] <Pacman_> w?
[02:15] <bentinata> Pacman_, your issue?
[02:15] <Pacman_>  When i do Apt-get update i got Static ip set but got these errors http://pastie.org/private/3r6x6badmz377saqjjvvra
[02:15] <Pacman_> think some is wrong with my dns
[02:15] <undertaker> then i have no clue how to install ubuntu studio then...
[02:15] <dr_willis> undertaker:  you burn it to a cd/dvd or put it on a USB then boot it and use the installer.
[02:15] <dr_willis> is the normal way
[02:16] <undertaker> i burned it once when it worked but it only basically copied the iso file to a disc
[02:16] <undertaker> there was no installer on the disc, just an iso
[02:16] <dr_willis> you dont just drag/drop/copy the iso  to a disk
[02:16] <dr_willis> you BURN/IMAGE the iso to the disk
[02:16] <bentinata> Pacman_, try change your mirror
[02:16] <dr_willis> !burn
[02:16] <undertaker> that's my problem though, no program is letting me
[02:17] <dr_willis> theres iso image burning tools for windows..
[02:17] <dr_willis> infrarecorder is one.
[02:17] <dr_willis> most likely a dozen others.
[02:17] <bentinata> UNetBootIn
[02:17] <undertaker> brasero isn't, acetone isn't, not even the ubuntu default will
[02:17] <dr_willis> unetbootin puts the iso on a flash drive.. not burn to dvd
[02:17] <undertaker> that one wont even open
[02:17] <Pacman_> bentinata>  How do i do that?
[02:17] <undertaker> i need to figure out why three separate programs refuse to mount ths thing
[02:17] <Pacman_> Using Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS
[02:18] <dr_willis> undertaker:  so you are on Ubuntu now? and want to  install ubuntu-studio on top of ubuntu? or remove ubuntui and replacce it with ubuntu-studio?
[02:18] <bentinata> Pacman_, in terminal, type "software-properties-gkt"
[02:18] <dr_willis> !iso
[02:18] <undertaker> i just want to install ubuntu studio, that's all
[02:18] <dr_willis> if you really want to MOUNT it.. you cando it via the command line
[02:18] <bentinata> Pacman_, "software-properties-gtk", sorry
[02:18] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-studio
[02:18] <Tabis> boon question: ok, so ubuntu uses grub2 - fine, but how can i install grub legacy to an external drive now?
[02:18] <undertaker> i can try that, what do i put in place of mount point?
[02:18] <dr_willis> sudo mkdir Ustudio
[02:18] <Pacman_> need to install it...
[02:19] <RollinV2> undertaker: on windows use imgburn to make the install dvd
[02:19] <dr_willis> sudo mount -o loop ubuntustudio.iso Ustudio
[02:19] <undertaker> i don't have windows
 need to install that program
[02:19] <dr_willis> will MOUNT the iso to the directory Ustudio
[02:19] <undertaker> dr_willis: the filename I have is ubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[02:19] <bentinata> dr_willis, how to change mirror for software sources?
[02:19] <nearst> hi peepl
[02:19] <dr_willis> undertaker:  so use the example and use the name you  have
[02:20] <bentinata> Pacman_, do you have software-center?
[02:20] <undertaker> and put ustudio in the place of mountpoint?
[02:20] <dr_willis> You make the mountpoing any directory name you want that exists
[02:20] <undertaker> i don't know what that is though
[02:20] <dr_willis> MAKE a directory
[02:20] <dr_willis> any directory
[02:20] <undertaker> just any?
[02:21] <dr_willis> mkdir Iwanttoputitherre
[02:21] <undertaker> so just make a file anywhere
[02:21] <dr_willis> then use that name as the mountpoint
[02:21] <dr_willis> its a DIRECTORY
[02:21] <dr_willis> !mount
[02:21] <undertaker> yes
[02:21] <undertaker> i know but i think it's clear i don't even know how to make a directory
[02:21] <dr_willis> sudo mkdir Ustudio
[02:21] <dr_willis> i said how earlier
[02:21] <undertaker> sadly
[02:21] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:22] <dr_willis> actually no need for sudo in that.
[02:22] <dr_willis> sudo mount -o loop ubuntustudio.iso Ustudio
[02:22] <undertaker> i did the mkdir thing and it did nothing
[02:22] <dr_willis> did you look and see if it made a directory?
[02:23] <undertaker> no clue how to find it
[02:23] <undertaker> but when i put in the command all it did was make a new line
[02:23] <dr_willis> use the file manager and lookl.. or try 'ls'
[02:23] <dr_willis> no error message = it worked
[02:23] <undertaker> lookl?
[02:23] <dr_willis> having commands print out large 'yes we worked perfectly' messages would benn annoying
[02:24] <dr_willis> use the ls command and look at your files.. or use the file manager to look at your directory
[02:24] <undertaker> ok, it worked
[02:24] <dr_willis> it may be time to  read a few bash beginner guides.
[02:24] <servvs> I have a built in intel 6150 wireless N wimax card in my laptop
[02:25] <undertaker> i've asked in here for a few before but no avail
[02:25] <servvs> however I am not showing a device for the wimax, only wlan0 and my lan adapter
[02:25] <undertaker> the ones i find online myself are vague to my eyes
[02:25] <dr_willis> theres 100000's of bash tutorials on the internet
 all i have is normal server install + ssh
[02:25] <undertaker> great
[02:25] <dr_willis> see whch has the  most hits/tags/votes on delicious.com  ;)
[02:25] <undertaker> but i just said the ones i've seen so far are vague, so do you have any suggestions?
[02:26] <undertaker> think backk to when you were a noob at this
[02:26] <Tabis> next try: how can i setup grub-legay to an external drive without the ubuntu preinstalled grub2?
[02:26] <dr_willis> that was 25 yrs ago undertaker  the internet dident exist then
[02:26] <dr_willis> :)
[02:26] <undertaker> christ
[02:26] <undertaker> thanks anyway
[02:26] <dr_willis> 25+ yrs.. im old
[02:26] <Tex_Nick> undertaker : youTube has a lot of good beginning vids for bash
[02:27] <dr_willis> or see who tags the most on delicious.com
[02:27] <dr_willis> Oreially's Using Bash book - is a must read also
[02:27] <siggij72_> yeah try searching for advanced shell scripting, there's a good one from vtc on utube
[02:27] <undertaker> when i did the iso command you gave me it said no such file
[02:27] <undertaker> which is bs because i directly copied the name of the file
[02:28] <dr_willis> undertaker:  use the correct name. with proper case. use tab completion to make sure its correct
[02:28] <dr_willis> or its in a differnt directory
[02:28] <dr_willis> from where you are at now
[02:28] <undertaker> i did, i shift-ins the thing in there
[02:28] <codezombie> anyone here familair with grub and the ubuntu server install process? I'm trying to write a grub.cfg file to boot an ubuntu iso from usb.
[02:28] <undertaker> it's in my downloads folder
[02:28] <servvs> any idea how to get wimax to work on ubuntu 12.10?
[02:29] <codezombie> I seem to be running into issues with the cd rom detection process since I don't have a cd rom
[02:29] <dr_willis> undertaker:  so is your shell IN the Downloads directory?
[02:29] <dr_willis> cd Downloads
[02:29] <undertaker> which shell?
[02:29] <dr_willis> the one you are typing commands  in
[02:29] <dr_willis> you either work on files in the current directory. or you give a full path to the files.
[02:30] <dr_willis> I would guess your  shell is currently cd'd to your HOME. while the iso is in /home/yourusername/Downloads
[02:30]  * akakcolin 
[02:30] <undertaker> i can't even tell, the iso went straight to my downloads folder when it fnished downloading
[02:30] <dr_willis> the shells prompt shows its current directoryu or use the 'pwd' command
[02:30] <undertaker> it's home/home/downloads
[02:31] <dr_willis>  Your users name is  home?
[02:31] <psusi> codezombie, why don't you just use the usb startup disk creator?
[02:31] <codezombie> psusi: efi
[02:31] <psusi> codezombie, and?
[02:31] <undertaker> no it's schlonginator
[02:32] <dr_willis> undertaker:  so your full path to your Downloads directory would be /home/sliongwhatever/Downloads
[02:32] <codezombie> psusi: I also don't have an existing installation to use the creator.
[02:32] <psusi> codezombie, what are you using then?  windows?  unetbootbin should work
[02:33] <codezombie> psusi: I'm installing on a mac mini.
[02:33] <undertaker> it says home home downloads at the top for me
[02:33] <RollinV2> undertaker: cd ~ && cd Downloads
[02:33] <undertaker> when i click the icon with the house that says schlonginator it doesn't open anything
[02:33] <psusi> codezombie, you can just dd the image to the usb then and it should boot
[02:33] <dr_willis> use the shell.. its easier for support
[02:33] <codezombie> psusi: it in fact does not work.
[02:33] <crittek> Hello
[02:33] <undertaker> is it always this hard just to mount an image?
[02:34] <dr_willis> if you knew the basics of bash - its trivial
[02:34] <codezombie> psusi: I've attempted this a few times. Having to use a grub binary to boot the iso directly.
[02:34] <RollinV2> hard is a relative term
[02:34] <dr_willis> cd  ~/Downloads
[02:34] <dr_willis> mkdir ISODIR
[02:34] <codezombie> I get an error during the installation that states the cd rom (which there is none) is not able to be used for installation.
[02:34] <dr_willis> sudo mount -o loop ISONAME.iso  ISODIR
[02:34] <dr_willis> done....
[02:34] <undertaker> ok it says no such file or directory when i do the iso command you gave
[02:34] <undertaker> but the file is there
[02:34] <undertaker> that's what's bugging me
[02:34] <codezombie> psusi: which leads me to beleive I'm missing a critical boot flag.
[02:35] <dr_willis> and we are back to wheres your SHELL is cd'd to...
[02:35] <dr_willis> so what does 'pwd' say
[02:35] <undertaker> i have NO clue
[02:35] <dr_willis> pwd = print working diurectory
[02:35] <RollinV2> type 'pwd' in your terminal
[02:35] <servvs> where can I get wimax drivers for linux?
[02:35] <psusi> undertaker, the file is where?  does `ls` show it?
[02:35] <nearst> eww. wimax?
[02:35] <dr_willis> notice the 3 commands i gave earlier.. the first one cd's to the Downloads directory
[02:36] <M4d3L1> how do I check what is running on a specific port?
[02:36] <dr_willis> the bash proompt also shows the current directory
[02:36] <undertaker> pwd says home/schlonginator/
[02:36] <undertaker> that's it
[02:36] <dr_willis> undertaker:  so you are NOT in the Downloads directory
[02:36] <EatAtJoes> I would like to install Windows7 in a virtual machine inside my ubuntu. I have to buy windows to do this, should I buy the Windows 7 System Builder version?
[02:36] <undertaker> damn it
[02:36] <dr_willis> so give the Full path to the ISO. or cd to Downloads
[02:36] <c00kee> explain to me what samba is good for
[02:37] <dr_willis> then use the commands
[02:37] <RollinV2> cd to downloads seems safer for him
[02:37] <psusi> c00kee, sharing files over the network
[02:37] <undertaker> this is the full path /home/schlonginator/Downloads
[02:37] <dfafasdfasfd> ur doing it wrong u run k26 in w7 vm
[02:37] <dr_willis> undertaker:  now use the 'ls' command to see what files are there.
[02:37] <dr_willis> you  should see your  ISO file now
[02:38] <thec4ke> c00kee, specifically to and from windows systems
[02:38] <undertaker> all ls did was list my directories again
[02:38] <crittek> USB 802.11 adapters . . .  . supported?
[02:38] <dr_willis> you dont see your ISO file?
[02:38] <dr_willis> cd Downloads
[02:38] <dr_willis> ls
[02:38] <undertaker> where, file manager or terminal?
[02:39] <undertaker> you told me to type ls and i did
[02:39] <dr_willis> use the terminakl...
[02:39] <psusi> thec4ke, it's actually kind of good for sharing between linux systems too... NFS is kinda shite
[02:39] <dr_willis> not the filemanager
[02:39] <dr_willis> cd ~/Downloads
[02:39] <dr_willis> ls
[02:39] <TheLordOfTime> crittek, you mean 802.11 wifi adapters?
[02:39] <c00kee> how about from linux to windows systems
[02:39] <dr_willis>  should show your  iso file
[02:39] <undertaker> well right now in the terminal i have nothing
[02:39] <TheLordOfTime> crittek, like a wifi dongle or something?
[02:39] <thec4ke> yea agreed
[02:39] <dfafasdfasfd> so who can help me with a packet
[02:39] <crittek> yes
[02:39] <servvs> so am I really not going to get any help with this wimax in ubuntu?
[02:39] <undertaker> that command said no such exists
[02:39] <dr_willis> which command? what did you type EXACTLY
[02:40] <RollinV2> dr_willis: it might be easier to pastbin him a list of commands to follow at this rate
[02:40] <TheLordOfTime> crittek, depends on the adapter.
[02:40] <undertaker> cd ~/Downloads
[02:40] <crittek> trying to find compatible for Lubuntu 11.10 USB 1.1
[02:40] <TheLordOfTime> crittek, some are supported OOTB, others aren't.
[02:40] <memand> Is there a way of making the compiz function show desktop ignore a window?
[02:40] <dr_willis> boss is hollering at me.. i gotta run. back in about an hr.
[02:40] <undertaker> ok i got it
[02:40] <TheLordOfTime> crittek, if i may give you a suggestion, upgrade to 12.04 or later, 11.10'll be EOL in april.
[02:40] <undertaker> the iso isn't in there at all
[02:41] <RollinV2> undertaker: you need to learn your bash commands for cd, ls, and mount
[02:41] <psusi> undertaker, then you have to figure out where the heck it is
[02:41] <crittek> had trouble with iso file on old equip. . . . plan to upgrade
[02:41] <TheLordOfTime> crittek, as for which ones're supported, i don't know offhand, someone else might be able to help you with that, so have some patience while you wait for someone :)
[02:41] <undertaker> i know where it is! in my downloads folder
[02:41] <undertaker> i've been saying that this whole time
[02:41] <crittek> thanx
[02:41] <psusi> undertaker, you just said it insn't
[02:41] <RollinV2> undertaker: no you dont know where it is
[02:41] <memand> I have a teminal set up as a transparent bacgground, but it kind of loses its point if it also disapears when I "show desktop"
[02:41] <undertaker> when i go to my downloads folder, it's right there
[02:42] <undertaker> that's where it went when it finished downloading
[02:42] <psusi> undertaker, then typing ls ~/Downloads in a terminal should show it
[02:42] <dfafasdfasfd> where is !noobhelp channel
[02:42] <undertaker> this is ridiculous
[02:42] <undertaker> not you guys
[02:43] <memand> dfafasdfasfd: What seems to be the problem?
[02:43] <undertaker> this entire thing
[02:43] <thec4ke> undertaker, type this:  find / -name "*.iso"
[02:43] <matrixfox> locate thefile.name
[02:43] <thec4ke> it might take a while
[02:43] <dfafasdfasfd> memand i need help with a packet
[02:43] <undertaker> it brings up every file in downloads BUT my ido
[02:43] <RollinV2> he might not have locate installed
[02:43] <undertaker> iso*
[02:43] <psusi> who said anything about locate?
[02:43] <memand> dfafasdfasfd: You need to be more specific than that :)
[02:43] <undertaker> now it shows up
[02:43] <dfafasdfasfd> dns Standard query A x.x.x
[02:44] <RollinV2> psusi: matrixfox did
[02:44] <memand> dfafasdfasfd: what do you want help with?
[02:44] <dfafasdfasfd> I want to know what it is. Is it wireless specific? I cant find any info about it
[02:44] <dfafasdfasfd> and the x.x.x is actually 017801780178
[02:44] <undertaker> k so the iso is in downloads
[02:45] <undertaker> !iso
[02:45] <psusi> dfafasdfasfd, what the heck are you talking about?
[02:45] <KI4RO> dr_willis, Thank you so much...it is printing from my machine now...now just have to try to get it working from my son's Windows machine, but that will wait until tmw LOL
[02:45] <undertaker> already did that
[02:45] <undertaker> damn
[02:45] <dfafasdfasfd> a dns query packet
[02:45] <bazhang> !ot | dfafasdfasfd
[02:45] <psusi> dfafasdfasfd, what about them?
[02:45] <bazhang> dfafasdfasfd, that has nothing to do with ubuntu try ##networking
[02:46] <dfafasdfasfd> ok
[02:46] <RollinV2> anyone have good starting dotfiles for ubuntu 12.04/12.10.. im redoing mine and appreciate starting suggestions. thanks.
[02:46] <RollinV2> bonus if github repo
[02:48] <memand> Anyone here that has an idea as to how I can make a window imune to compiz's show desktop function?
[02:48] <ejat> anyone having issues with display driver on raring kernel 3.7.0/3.8.0 on macbookpro ?
[02:48] <undertaker> Still getting no suh file or directory when i try to mount this iso
[02:48] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu+1|ejat,
[02:48] <bazhang> ejat, #ubuntu+1 for raring
[02:48] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|ejat,
[02:49] <RollinV2> undertaker: what directory are you in. type 'pwd' on the command line
[02:49] <escott> undertaker, paste.ubuntu.com your terminal session
[02:50] <newbie|3> hello!
[02:50] <RollinV2> escott: wow, excellent suggestion.
[02:50] <undertaker> one sec
[02:50] <Egon> newbie|3: howdy
[02:50] <cfhowlett> newbie|3, greetings
[02:51] <Haematoma> Hi, is anyone here familiar with rtorrent configuration?
[02:51] <undertaker> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518884/
[02:51] <escott> RollinV2, can't tell if that was serious or sarcastic
[02:51] <bazhang> Haematoma, whats the exact issue
[02:51] <RollinV2> escott: serious.
[02:52] <RollinV2> escott: though a joke about how many nerds it takes to cd into a downloads directory could be made right now.. haha
[02:52] <escott> undertaker, thats not enough to say. you are in ~ the file ubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso is not in ~
[02:52] <Haematoma> I have two watch folders, labeled watch1 and watch2.
[02:52] <Haematoma> I want downloads in progress for watch1 to go in progress1, when they are completed I want them to go into completed1
[02:52] <escott> undertaker, if that file is in ~/Downloads you need to "cd Downloads" first or "sudo mount -o loop ~/Downloads/ubuntustudio..."
[02:52] <Haematoma> for watch 2, I want downloads in progress to go into folder progress 2, and for completed downloads completed 2
[02:52] <undertaker> my fundamental issue this entire time has been that error
[02:53] <bazhang> Haematoma, on a single line, thats impossible to read
[02:53] <Haematoma> bazhang:  sorry, I will try again.
[02:53] <undertaker> and that's where i get lost
[02:54] <Haematoma> bazhang: I want rtorrent to move completed downloads into different folders depending on the watch folder
[02:54] <undertaker> i did the cd downloads command before this and nothing was solved
[02:54] <thec4ke> undertaker, do you understand what cd does?
[02:55] <RollinV2> man cd
[02:55] <escott> RollinV2, no man entry. its a builtin
[02:55] <undertaker> very vaguely
[02:55] <cfhowlett> info cd
[02:55] <thec4ke> your shell is like a folder
[02:55] <thec4ke> youre always "in a  directory"
[02:55] <thec4ke> cd changes the directory youre in
[02:55] <psusi> undertaker, how are you lost... you are being given the exact commands to type, yet you apparently keep refusing to type the first one
[02:55] <RollinV2> escott: really? ive never .... ah wow. learned something new today
[02:55] <thec4ke> see at the end of your prompt
[02:55] <thec4ke> you have the little ~
[02:56] <undertaker> dude I've been typing every single command given
[02:56] <thec4ke> that means youre currently in your home directory
[02:56] <thec4ke> its an alias for home
[02:56] <undertaker> refusing?
[02:56] <escott> undertaker, if you "cd Downloads" your prompt should become schlonginator@schlong:/home/schlonginator/Downloads$ and "ls" should list the ubuntustudio iso file
[02:56] <thec4ke> you need to do cd Downloads
[02:56] <psusi> undertaker, you have not been typing the "cd Downloads" command
[02:56] <cfhowlett> undertaker, help cd will give you the program commands
[02:56] <undertaker> haha ok, let me show you what happened when I typed cd downloads then
[02:56] <thec4ke> that means change directory to tDownloads
[02:56] <undertaker> since I didn't do it three times or anything
[02:57] <RollinV2> ubuntu is also case sensitive, downloads != Downloads
[02:57] <undertaker> schlonginator@schlong:~$ cd downloads bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory
[02:57] <thec4ke> its case sensitive..
[02:57] <psusi> undertaker, it's a capital D
[02:57] <escott> undertaker, cAse SENsiTIVE
[02:57] <RollinV2> called it. lol
[02:57] <undertaker> i remember doing it with a capital too, and it gave this schlonginator@schlong:~/Downloads$
[02:57] <thec4ke> that is what you want
[02:57] <undertaker> this was like 20 min ago
[02:57] <thec4ke> but
[02:58] <escott> undertaker, then does the iso appear if you type "ls"
[02:58] <thec4ke> you somehow are no longer ther
[02:58] <RollinV2> you had it undertaker
[02:58] <undertaker> did that too, and yes it does
[02:58] <Haematoma> bazhang: nvm, i think i figured it out. thanks anyhow
[02:58] <thec4ke> the mount command should work now
[02:58] <thec4ke> because youre in the  right directory to use it
[02:59] <undertaker> this is exactly what I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518892/
[02:59] <undertaker> line 19 has the iso I'm trying to install
[02:59] <thec4ke> now do the mount command
[02:59] <thec4ke> the one that failed earlier
[03:00] <matrixfox> undertaker: cd ~/Downloads
[03:00] <psusi> undertaker, now mount it
[03:00] <escott> undertaker, then "sudo mount -o loop ubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso ~/poop should work if there is a "poop" directory in ~
[03:00] <psusi> undertaker, you did create the "poop" directory right?
[03:01] <undertaker> yes
[03:01] <RollinV2> escott: i really wish we could make that the room topic for today
[03:01] <skp1> haha
[03:01] <memand> lol
[03:01] <undertaker> escott: this is what i got mount: warning: /home/schlonginator/poop seems to be mounted read-only.
[03:01] <matrixfox> that's fine...
[03:02] <escott> undertaker, sounds like you have already successfully mounted the loopback at some point in the past
[03:02] <psusi> undertaker, then mount it now.. and note that tab completion works in the shell so you don't have to type the full file name, just the first few letters, then hitting tab should fill in the rest
[03:02] <escott> undertaker, "mount | grep poop" what does that output
[03:02] <psusi> undertaker, the iso9660 filesystem ms read only by definition
[03:02] <psusi> s/ms/is
[03:03] <undertaker> escott: /home/schlonginator/Downloads/ubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso on /home/schlonginator/poop type iso9660 (ro)
[03:03] <escott> RollinV2, gotta love the 12 year old guys
[03:03] <escott> undertaker, its already mounted
[03:03] <undertaker> but not installed?
[03:03] <escott> !xy | undertaker
[03:03] <psusi> umm.. no... mounting != install
[03:04] <memand> what exactly is it that we are trying to do?
[03:05] <undertaker> i don't think that's totally accurate but whatever
[03:05] <RollinV2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation
[03:05] <psusi> undertaker, if you want to install ubuntu studio, then you need to either burn it to a cd, or use the usb startup disk creator to write it to a usb flash stick, then boot from it
[03:05] <undertaker> that was my inital problem!
[03:05] <thec4ke> :\
[03:05] <RollinV2> undertaker do you want to upgrade an existing ubuntu install to studio, or start fresh?
[03:05] <bazhang> is a lie
[03:05] <undertaker> i said that at the beginning, three programs won't burn this to a disc
[03:06] <RollinV2> undertaker: you can upgrade to studio
[03:06] <escott> undertaker, you clearly have a working linux system. how did you install that one?
[03:06] <undertaker> i said that, and i got led on this lovely rollercoaster of mounting
[03:06] <thec4ke> rofl
[03:06] <memand> undertaker: you wan't to install this ubuntu studio distro right?
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[03:06] <thec4ke> i think someome missunderstood you
[03:06] <thec4ke> mounting has nothing to do with this
[03:07] <undertaker> [21:13] <undertaker> well, i'm trying to mount this ubuntu studio .iso to a disc
[03:07] <thec4ke> mount doesnt mean burn
[03:07] <psusi> undertaker, you don't 'mount to a disk'... you burn to a disk
[03:07] <thec4ke> thats where the confusion is
[03:07] <memand> undertaker: do you have a usb drive near by?
[03:07] <psusi> which are you trying to use, a flash drive, or a dvd?
[03:08] <RollinV2> undertaker: what operating system and version are you using right now?
[03:08] <undertaker> DVD
[03:08] <undertaker> Ubuntu 12.10
[03:08] <thec4ke> the live DVD?
[03:08] <undertaker> i ave a blank dvd
[03:08] <psusi> undertaker, then fire up brasero and burn the iso to the disc
[03:08] <RollinV2> undertaker: ok, you cant upgrade to studio.. you need to install it fresh
[03:08] <undertaker> thats one of the programs i said wasn't working an hour ago
[03:09] <dr_willis> RollinV2:  i was thinking that also..
[03:09] <undertaker> brasero and acetone can't find my disc drive
[03:09] <cfhowlett> undertaker, do you have vanilla ubuntu installed?  Because you CAN easily upgrade that to Ubuntustudio ...
[03:09] <psusi> define "don't work"
[03:09] <undertaker> cfhowlett: no
[03:09] <memand> remember to do it at the slowest bur speed posible (no kidding) so it has the smallest chance f'ing uo anything ;)
[03:09] <psusi> well if your drive isn't working then you've got a problem
[03:09] <thec4ke> undertaker, did you install ubuntu?
[03:09] <escott> undertaker, somehow somewhere someday you burned yourself an ubuntu cd because you *have* a working ubuntu system right? why not recreate that process but with the ubuntustudio iso
[03:09] <cfhowlett> undertaker, ok.  USB installation is not an option?
[03:09] <thec4ke> or are you just running it from the dvd
[03:09] <RollinV2> dr_willis: ya.. this is a rare time i'd like to see studio work on the *.10 releases
[03:10] <undertaker> let me send shots of what happens in acetone and brasero...
[03:10] <dr_willis> RollinV2:  ive rarely messed with Studio, never really clear on the differances. It does have  a custom kernel i thought
[03:10] <bazhang> undertaker, do you have a current ubuntu install
[03:10] <dr_willis> xcombust seems to work well for burining isos also
[03:10] <undertaker> 12.10
[03:10] <bazhang> undertaker, is that a yes
[03:11] <dr_willis> Im not even sure why people would need Ubuntu-studio instead of normal ubuntu ;))
[03:11] <thec4ke> real time kernel
[03:11] <thec4ke> better for rendering audio i and video in real time
[03:11] <undertaker> this is acetone: http://imagebin.org/242461
[03:11] <bazhang> undertaker, if you have ubuntu currently, then just install the ubuntustudio-desktop package
[03:11] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, some people like oysters, some people like clams ...
[03:11] <thec4ke> for things like sequencing and video editing
[03:11] <dr_willis> cfhowlett:  i perfer Steak!
[03:12] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:12] <bazhang> !info ubuntustudio-desktop | undertaker
[03:12] <RollinV2> bazhang: i dont think he can? its not in 12.10 right?
[03:12] <chamunks> whats the default tracert tool included in ubuntu.
[03:12] <psusi> unless you are recording music you are creating with a synthesiser, there's no need for that
[03:12] <bazhang> RollinV2, see above
[03:12] <undertaker> http://imagebin.org/242462 brasero
[03:12] <RollinV2> ahhhh
[03:12] <bazhang> undertaker, please note what I just said
[03:12] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[03:13] <dr_willis> will convert a ubuntu install into a ubuntu-studio install then. :)
[03:13] <bazhang> undertaker, there is Zero reason to burn another iso
[03:13] <dr_willis> it will install a LOT of extra stuff
[03:13] <undertaker> ubuntustudio-desktop package? is that in sw center?
[03:13] <skp1> i gotta pee, brb
[03:13] <bazhang> undertaker, YES
[03:13] <thec4ke> or if youre using av processors
[03:13] <dr_willis> undertaker:  the bot says it is.
[03:13] <undertaker> i was directed to do this iso stuff yesterday in the forums
[03:13] <cfhowlett> undertaker, I'm an ubuntustudio fan(atic).  If you don't need the full meal deal, why not install just vanilla ubuntu and the components you need rather than the full ubuntustudio?
[03:13] <thec4ke> which you undoubtedly are
[03:13] <psusi> that's weird.. a blank dvd holds 4.7g not 2.6
[03:14] <undertaker> that struck me as odd too
[03:14] <bazhang> undertaker, so install that package, select from login, and you have ubuntustudio
[03:14] <undertaker> there's no studio in the sw center
[03:14] <thec4ke> youll need to reboot the pc to load the new kernel as well
[03:15] <dr_willis> command should be ---->    sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[03:15] <bazhang> undertaker, do it from the command line then. IT'S there
[03:15] <undertaker> guessing it's a terminal install
[03:15] <psusi> undertaker, have you burned this disc before?
[03:15] <RollinV2> undertaker: also read this when you get some time. bookmark it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:15] <dr_willis> or you are  the software center is hideing it under advanced type items
[03:15] <cfhowlett> undertaker, note that 12.10 is NOT recommended.  12.04, the LTS release is the recommended package.  Why?  Bleeding/cutting edge interim releases break.  LTS releases are a bit more stable.  For a working, production studio machine, you might want to factor that in ...
[03:15] <bazhang> psusi, he does not to burn a disk at all
[03:17] <psusi> only think I can think of is that this disc has been burned and then blanked maybe, which doesn't work with -R media since it can't be erased
[03:17] <undertaker> so i should install 12.04?
[03:17] <undertaker> (yes, i know i need to learn this shit)
[03:18] <dr_willis> is this for real work.. or for you playing around.. ;)
[03:18] <cfhowlett> undertaker, I'd suggest you consider it.
[03:18] <RollinV2> undertaker: i started with ubuntu studio years ago because i thought the wallpaper was pretty.. trust me.. you will learn and improve. dont be discouraged.
[03:18] <psusi> undertaker, make sure you are using a fresh disc
[03:18] <cfhowlett> undertaker, as rollinv2 stated, you WILL learn how these things work.
[03:19] <dr_willis> undertaker:  why do you specifically need ubuntu-studio anyway?
[03:19] <undertaker> video editing
[03:19] <undertaker> i have a channel
[03:20] <dr_willis> what kind of editing?
[03:20] <oitofelix> Hello.  I'm trying to play sound using SDL with NAS driver, but if I try it with mplayer or Audacious I get "Failed to open audio stream: No available audio device." NAS is working nice.  Only SDL over NAS driver has that issue.  Can anyone help?
[03:20] <dr_willis> unless its somthing critical - the normal desktop may work fine for you
[03:20] <Rajvi> Hi All, This might sound stupid! - How to apply themes on 12.10. I installed some. I know where they are!
[03:20] <undertaker> the normal desktop?
[03:21] <undertaker> raj, you might need tweak tool
[03:21] <Rajvi> Suggest something!
[03:21] <dr_willis> undertaker:  yes the normal ubuntu 12.10 desktop can do most video editing tasks fine. Ubuntu studio has a real time jernel and other tweaks for RECORDING  that make it better in some cases
[03:22] <pmp6nl> Hello,  I have a usb external hard drive.  Every so often while I am creating an encrypted file via truecrypt it will randomly unmount.  Any ideas?  Thanks
[03:22] <dr_willis> but i doubt if you will notice much of a differance
[03:22] <undertaker> i don't have any video editors on here though
[03:22] <cfhowlett> undertaker, openshot
[03:23] <dr_willis> you can install anything On ubuntu thats on ubuntu-studio. they use the same software sources
[03:23] <cfhowlett> undertaker, video editing ... openshot
[03:23] <undertaker> does that come preinstalled/
[03:23] <RollinV2> pmp6nl: is the drive usb or a/c powered? if usb it miht disconnect from lack of power
[03:23] <RollinV2> might*
[03:23] <cfhowlett> undertaker, no.  see software center and install
[03:23] <dr_willis> i think theres like 4  nonlinear video editors out now isent there? Openshot, kino, that one by the VLC guys?  and some other
[03:23] <escott> pmp6nl, check dmesg
[03:23] <pmp6nl> RollinV2, its usb3, no ac
[03:23] <undertaker> Rajvi: Do you have tweak tool?
[03:24] <dr_willis> My USB3 Hard disks have AC Power. ;)
[03:24] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, avidemux is the other well know VE
[03:24] <dr_willis> or the big ones do at least.
[03:24] <dr_willis> thats more of a converter isent it?  I rarely work with video
[03:25] <psusi> esata for teh winz
[03:25] <tompa> how do u oben and install a ".deb" file?
[03:25] <RollinV2> cloud storage ftw
[03:25] <dr_willis> tompa:  one way  sudo gdebi foo.deb
[03:25] <Rajvi> No, I know some, but don't know which one would be good?
[03:25] <psusi> tompa, you can install it with sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[03:25] <dr_willis> tompa:  if you have gdebi instggalled.
[03:25] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, I've never used it.  Openshot is so intuitive, even an old hound like me can figure it out...
[03:25] <dr_willis> gdebi will pull in needed dependencies. so its handy
[03:26] <undertaker> Rajvi: where did you download the the theme from?
[03:26] <FatsDomino> brok was always good
[03:26] <tompa> dr_willis so it would be sudo gdeb foo.deb + what? how does the terminal know which file to choose?
[03:26] <pmp6nl> RollinV2, escott not sure if anything helpful is in dmesg, would you mind checking?  http://pastebin.com/eiNg9E0D
[03:26] <tompa> psusi
[03:26] <dr_willis> tompa:  thats it...  use the name of your deb
[03:26] <psusi> tompa, you tell it the file to choose?  hence the foo.deb argument
[03:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:26] <tompa> dr_willis okey
[03:27] <escott> pmp6nl, [ 3449.820734] Buffer I/O error on device sdb5, logical block 34997455
[03:27] <escott> [ 3449.820736] lost page write due to I/O error on sdb5
[03:27] <dr_willis> kids these days.. dont know the   foo/bar  terms
[03:27] <psusi> tompa, "foo" is a wild card expression for "insert correct name here"
[03:27] <Rajvi> from here sudo apt-get install delorean-varnam-theme
[03:27] <docmur> I have minidlna installed on my server and when I had one media_dir=V,FOLDER listed I could rescan the folder and it worked prefectly, today I added 4 more folders accross different mount points but now it wont rescan, it will start fine but I can't get minidlna to see the new files
[03:27] <undertaker> Rajvi: ok, go to the sw center and get "tweak tool"
[03:27] <dr_willis> FatsDomino:  dont me msging me.. and dont be msging people useless spam
[03:27] <psusi> escott, are there lines before and after that?
[03:28] <escott> psusi, line 323 and such
[03:28] <Rajvi> ok
[03:28] <pmp6nl> escott, some sort of disk error.  fdisk it?
[03:29] <RollinV2> dr_willis: one day at a time. they will learn.
[03:29] <Rajvi> i DON'T SEE weak tool in Software Center
[03:29] <undertaker> tweak tool?
[03:29] <farfu> hi there, I was wondering what do you guys suggest to do on a new installation of Ubunto 12.10 on a PC Pentium 4 where the side bar does not appear
[03:29] <escott> pmp6nl, its possible it is going to sleep
[03:29] <dr_willis> i think the theme tool got renamed in 12.10
[03:29] <RollinV2> Rajvi: sudo apt-get install tweak-tool
[03:29] <pmp6nl> escott, is there a way to keep it awake?
[03:29] <dr_willis> !info tweak-tool
[03:29] <undertaker> it's called tweak tool for me
[03:29] <Rajvi> Thnks guys
[03:29] <skp1> it;s gnome-tweak-tool
[03:29] <dr_willis> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[03:30] <Rajvi> i will use the terminal
[03:30] <psusi> !ops
[03:30] <psusi> someone wanna show FatsDomino the door?  he's spamming/phishing/begging for money in private msgs
[03:30] <bazhang> psusi, whats up
[03:30] <RollinV2> gah, im 0 for 2 on remembering exact app names today
[03:30] <hexstatik> it there a way to improve the smoothness of 12.10 system wide? im getting some tearing and some stuttering...running on a 120hz monitor very noticeable
[03:31] <hexstatik> seems like there should be a way to turn up the rendered fps or something like that
[03:31] <Rajvi> Tweak tool is not in my repos, i guess :(
[03:31] <RollinV2> hexstatik: install 12.04, or install xfce, or install mate/cinnimon, or install gnome 3 if you live dangerous
[03:31] <hexstatik> RollinV2: 12.04 was smoother?
[03:32] <hexstatik> RollinV2: this is my frist ubuntu install in last 5 years
[03:32] <farfu> great! I will do the 12.04 and give it a try. THx
[03:32] <RollinV2> hexstatik: for me unity was much smoother in 12.04. it may vary for you of course
[03:32] <bazhang> RollinV2, recommend ing MINT ppa is not good advice at all.  unity and gnome-shell are all gnome3
[03:33] <Rajvi> Can i use MYunity would that would work
[03:33] <bazhang> Rajvi, what version of ubuntu are you on
[03:33] <RollinV2> bazhang: "if you live dangerous" implied that.
[03:33] <Rajvi> 12.10
[03:33] <njd001> re-hi i thnk i missed something earlier when you said i could adjust nano's colours you mentioned nanorc but there was somehting else you guys suggested i look at
[03:33] <bazhang> Rajvi, why not just change themes with system settings
[03:34] <Rajvi> I m not able to do so :(
[03:34] <Rajvi> only shows default themes!
[03:34] <bazhang> Rajvi, give a link to the theme please
[03:34] <RollinV2> njd001: could be any of the dotfiles. .. .vimrc, .bashrc, etc
[03:35] <Rajvi> http://www.itworld.com/software/315365/install-ten-great-unity-and-gnome-shell-themes-ubuntu-1210
[03:35] <bazhang> Rajvi, which one or ones
[03:35] <Rajvi> all
[03:35] <bazhang> Rajvi, are you on gnome-shell or unity
[03:35] <Rajvi> Unity
[03:36] <Rajvi> Gimme a tool or something too apply these. I know where they are installed!
[03:36] <njd001> this Fusha color for comments section is *killing* me i practically have to cross my eyes to read it
[03:36] <pmp6nl> escott, i will give sudo hdparm -S 0 /dev/sdb5 a try
[03:37] <njd001> the .bashrc maybe ?
[03:37] <bazhang> Rajvi, they are not fully compatible with 12.04
[03:37] <Rajvi> Alright, guys.. I gave you guys enough headche with these
[03:37] <dr_willis> i think ubuntu-tweak (get it from its homepage) akso has some theme selection section
[03:38] <Rajvi> I will find out.
[03:38] <bazhang> Rajvi, it says so in the comments on that link
[03:38] <dr_willis> ive been using gnome-shell lately. ;)
[03:38] <njd001> looks like its .bashrc
[03:38] <dr_willis> it has its own tweaking tools.
[03:39] <njd001> thanks for that RollinV2 i was banging my head on a wall trying to figure out who would pick fusha for a background color
[03:40] <RollinV2> njd001: thats the beauty of linux. dont like it. change it :-)
[03:40] <njd001> yes i can't find it
[03:40] <njd001> i dont think im spelling fusha right
[03:40] <njd001> maybe pink?
[03:41] <njd001> I am looking at TCL eggdrop scripts for stock quotes and i can't read the notes section :(
[03:41] <bazhang> fuchsia
[03:42] <bentinata> hahaha, ubuntu is cute with fuchsia
[03:43] <Mkop1> for some reason ubuntu is not recognizing my microphone. anyone have advice for how to troubleshoot?
[03:43]  * njd001 isnt finding a color blinding me 'cute'
[03:44] <escott> pmp6nl, doubt that will help its probably a usb issue
[03:44] <pmp6nl> escott, ya it didnt help.  No truecrypt is complaining of a disk error.  Do you know how to revert hdparm -S ?
[03:45] <hexstatik> it there a way to improve the smoothness of 12.10 system wide? im getting some tearing and some stuttering...running on a 120hz monitor very noticeable
[03:48] <dr_willis> you mean for video playback> or the desktop
[03:48] <hexstatik> desktop
[03:48] <hexstatik> for example if i take a window and drag it around
[03:48] <dr_willis> ccsm has some sync to vblank setting i recall
[03:48] <hexstatik> there is some 'ghosting'
[03:48] <hexstatik> lemme see
[03:49] <njd001> hmmmmmmm
[03:49] <njd001> this is bugging me nothing in the .bashrc
[03:49] <hexstatik> dr_willis: and i am on a 120hz monitor, its much smoother in windows
[03:50] <hexstatik> dr_willis: its almost as if the frames per second are capped at say 60 and not 120
[03:50] <dr_willis> could be your only at 60mhz rate also
[03:50] <hexstatik> in other words im not getting the maximum out of my 120hz monitor which costs 400 dollars
[03:50] <hexstatik> you mean my system or the monitor? the monitor is at 120hz
[03:50] <dr_willis> check the monitor settings tool
[03:50] <hexstatik> the monitor is at 120hz
[03:51] <hexstatik> i checked, and i can tell from my cursor
[03:51] <hexstatik> i have two monitors actually one 120hz one 60hz
[03:51] <hexstatik> so its easy to compare
[03:51] <dr_willis> you got better eyes then me  then..  ;)
[03:51] <dr_willis> I recall old amiga days with interlaced displays at like 15hz ;)
[03:51] <hexstatik> yea i remember playing doom
[03:52] <hexstatik> on a laptop in early 90s
[03:52] <hexstatik> it was a slideshow
[03:53] <keber> if you wanna be billionaire, you must go over 3 seas
[03:53] <krzkrz> anyone can recomment a terminal that stores sessions?
[03:53] <dr_willis> krzkrz:  clarify what you mean by that.
[03:54] <bazhang> keber, what?
[03:54] <hexstatik> krzkrz: quake stores your commands and you can view them with up arrow, i think regular terminal does too
[03:54] <njd001> RollinV2 any other ideas how to get rid of this Fusicha comment colors
[03:54] <krzkrz> dr_willis, youve used maxosx before?
[03:54] <hexstatik> keber: what if just millionare will do?
[03:54] <bazhang> keber, no more nonsense, stay on topic
[03:55] <thec4ke> krzkrz: gnu screen can save and resume sessions
[03:55] <krzkrz> dr_willis, im trying to create a window group
[03:55] <krzkrz> so when i open a terminal. other tabs with commands will execute
[03:56] <krzkrz> when i reboot, i dont need to manually open all these tabs and execute each command
[03:56] <dr_willis> not seen one that remembers
[03:57] <dr_willis> ssh would really confuse it i bet
[03:57] <krzkrz> dr_willis, what approach can i take?
[03:57] <tompa> how do you uninstall something you didnt install through ubuntu software center?
[03:58] <krzkrz> i dont want to have to manually open each tab and run each command after reboot
[03:59] <jake_> I need to remove  ubuntu as a dual boot for windows 8 and reinstall it. how do i do that?
[03:59] <bazhang> jake_, then just install over it
[03:59] <dr_willis> just reinstall and reformat
[04:00] <jake_> when you say reformat it what do you mean?
[04:00] <dr_willis> ubuntu installer can format the artitions
[04:00] <dr_willis> partitions
[04:01] <dr_willis> why are you reinstalling
[04:01] <jake_> ok. is it more beneficial to use windows installer or a disk to install it
[04:01] <jake_> because i used windows installer and its really slow compared to what i think it should be.
[04:01] <dr_willis> windows installer is wubi
[04:01] <jake_> yes i used wubi
[04:01] <dr_willis> not a normal install
[04:02] <jake_> but i feel using a usb or disk will be better. correct?
[04:02] <dr_willis> avoid wubi
[04:02] <dr_willis> faster. es
[04:02] <dr_willis> yes
[04:02] <hexstatik> dr_willis: in ccsm under composite i found refresh rate
[04:02] <bazhang> jake_, the installer will handle resizing etc
[04:02] <hexstatik> "rate at which screen is reddrawn", i am not familiar with the term reddrawn
[04:02] <jake_> will it automatically write over the last version of ubuntu?
[04:03] <dr_willis> hexstatik: general tab has a vsync setting i recall
[04:03] <hexstatik> vsync is off
[04:03] <hexstatik> but
[04:03] <hexstatik> and vsync is not the ussue
[04:03] <dr_willis> tell the installer what to do.. is best
[04:04] <hexstatik> i just tried 30 in refresh rate
[04:04] <dr_willis> jake_: the installer will not remove a wubi install
[04:04] <hexstatik> and it is indeed the fps
[04:04] <Aironet> hello all I am having trouble connecting my aironet CB21Ag-A-K9 wirless cardbus on a panasonic toughbook running Xubuntu 12.10. The drivers are there but is shows as eth0 is this correct?
[04:04] <bazhang> jake_, not with wubi, no. add/remove in windows to remove that wubi
[04:04] <jake_> how do i remove a wubi install?
[04:05] <jake_> oh alright cool. it still gives me an option to boot into ubuntu though?
[04:05] <tompa> how do i uninstall a program i didnt install from ubuntu software center?
[04:05] <Aironet> can anyone please help me?
[04:05] <bentinata> tompa, sudo apt-get remove "program name"
[04:06] <bentinata> tompa, and if you want to clear the remain file of that program, use --purge
[04:07] <njd001> figured it out
[04:07] <njd001> it was the tcl.nanorc file :D
[04:08] <ogist> Hello, I have a file /home/ogist/quake2/quake2 and I want to make a shortcut of it on the desktop. How do I go about this? :)
[04:08] <dr_willis> wubi is in the windows add/remove programs list
[04:09] <KsM> ln -s /home/ogist/quake2/quake2 ~/Desktop/Quake\ 2
[04:09] <Aironet> Hello I have a aironet wifi cardbus that wont be seen by Xubuntu does anyone have advice on how to connect it?
[04:09] <KsM> alternatively a .desktop file where you can specify an icon and stuff
[04:09] <dr_willis> make a script ogist that cd then runs the game  may work better
[04:09] <tompa> bentinata how do I know what the program is named? Seems that Oracles VM isnt named "virtualbox" then :/
[04:09] <bitpimp> I am running a ubuntu 10.04 server and installed rails through the repos; I need to update rails due to the recent exploit; any suggestions?
[04:09] <root_> .
[04:11] <krzkrz> i hate how you have to type ctrl+shift v or c to paste or copy in terminal
[04:11] <dr_willis> hmm a security fix should get put in to the  normal updates i would think
[04:11] <krzkrz> couldnt they have just made it ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[04:11] <dr_willis> or use a ppa , or source for a newer version
[04:12] <Aironet> Hi I am having wireless connectivity problems using Xubuntu anyone have advice?
[04:12] <dr_willis> krzkrz:  ctrl-c was used by bash/unix befor MS took it over for pasteing
[04:12] <dr_willis> krzkrz:  i tend to just select/middle click the mouse
[04:13] <ogist> it says the link is broken
[04:13] <dr_willis> ogist:  perhaps you did a typo
[04:14] <krzkrz> dr_willis, im coming from macosx. the interface and shortcuts in osx look more consistent
[04:14] <chmac> Does Thunderbird have a stop button? It's been downloading 70/100 messages in my inbox for >5 minutes. I want to cancel it and start over...
[04:14] <emes> I'm trying to install acroread on 12.10, but it requires libgtk2.0-0:i386 which apt-get barfs when I try to install
[04:14] <dr_willis> ogist:  running a game via a link may not work properly. a shell script may be a better idea
[04:15] <ogist> ok
[04:15] <ogist> yeah
[04:15] <dr_willis> a launcher.desktop file running a script may be an even better idea
[04:15] <ogist> it just opens and closes
[04:15] <ogist> ok
[04:15] <dr_willis> many games/apps NEED to be ran from their 'data' directory
[04:15] <ogist> it came with a .desktop file
[04:15] <dr_willis> it may have came with a script as well. ;)
[04:15] <ogist> actually the tar.gz file came with bin share and lib, i had to move the bin file to the share and the lib file to the share/baseq2
[04:15] <jake_> it still appears to not all be removed. why?
[04:16] <dr_willis> theres also updated versions of quake2 i recall that just use the games original  data files
[04:16] <ogist> then i go into the folder and double click quake2
[04:16] <krzkrz> dr_willis, what version of ubunut are you using. im curious?
[04:16] <dr_willis> using 12.10 on  my desktop box.
[04:16] <dr_willis> been using my raspberry Pi more ttthis month.   however.
[04:17] <dr_willis> ogist:  running from terminal will print any error messages. and better for trouble shooting
[04:17] <ogist> Untrusted application Launcher when i open Quake II.desktop
[04:17] <krzkrz> dr_willis, raspberry Pi?
[04:17] <dr_willis> Yep. Got me a Raspberry Pi running as my znc server now
[04:17] <mansoor-s> I am unable to connect to my server with SSH (http://pastie.org/private/yr4niedzxdhzz1ojgakqrq). Could anyone take a look and tell me whats going on?
[04:18] <ogist> dr_willis: i downloaded this tar.gz file for quake2, it has it compiled already but the executable comes in a folder by itself and i had to put it in with the share folder to get it to work
[04:18] <ogist> im not sure where i am supposed to move all these files, so i just copied the bin file and lib files to the share dir and i run the executable from there and it works
[04:18] <dr_willis> ogist:  came from where?
[04:18] <MTsol> Is there a way I can download the additional driver straight from windows?
[04:19] <ogist> http://quake2world.net/files/quake2-quake2world.net-x86_64.tar.gz
[04:19] <ogist> this is the file
[04:19] <ogist> it's precompiled
[04:19] <bazhang> MTsol, driver for what
[04:19] <ogist> i just dont know what to do with the folders
[04:19] <ogist> bin share and lib
[04:19] <ogist> that's what is in the tar.gz file
[04:20] <ogist> also Quake II.desktop
[04:20] <MTsol> bazhang: Well I'm having the display issue but I got it to come up by pressing the brightness key but now its having trouble keeping a wireless connection
[04:20] <bazhang> MTsol, driver for what
[04:21] <MTsol> And if I do get it to connect to wireless it has trouble staying connected
[04:21] <bentinata> tompa, it named vbox
[04:21] <MTsol> So i guess ubuntu wureless drivers?
[04:21] <memand> Okay this is officially driving me mad now, I have a terminal window that I have set up to act like a Transparent terminal background. And that is all fine, exept that when I do "show desktop" in compiz for example, it also dissapears. I have tried to set a window rule in compiz that this window should be un-minimizable and unmovable, but no luck there...
[04:21] <bazhang> MTsol, what chipset
[04:22] <dr_willis> ogist:  id say check their docs. Most likely you can copuy them all to the /usr/share  directory
[04:22] <MTsol> bazhang: How do I find that out?
[04:23] <ogist> dr_willis
[04:23] <ogist> lib bin share
[04:23] <ogist> thats what is in the tar gz file
[04:23] <tompa> bentinata oh... unfortunatly it didnt work either :(    "E: Unable to locate package vbox"
[04:24] <usr13> MTsol: lspci |grep ireless
[04:24] <bentinata> tompa, you can see the system monitor to find out that program name
[04:24] <MTsol> usr13: I'm on windows atm
[04:24] <usr13> O
[04:24] <bentinata> hahahaa
[04:25] <MTsol> Cant keep a steady connection on ubuntu
[04:25] <Aironet> I need help connecting aironet cardbus to xubuntu 12.10 can anyone help? Thank you in advance
[04:27] <Aironet> Anyone?
[04:27] <bentinata> not me, sorry :(
[04:27] <MTsol> Would I need a wireless driver? Or?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|Aironet,
[04:27] <tompa> bentinata it says its named virtualbox but if i run "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox" i gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518993/
[04:28] <Aironet> It connects under eth0 but wont show under connections in the upper right hand corner
[04:28] <bentinata> tompa, maybe you custom install it? and put the folder somewhere?
[04:28] <bentinata> !patience
[04:29] <Aironet> MTsol were you talking to me?
[04:29] <MTsol> Aironet: anyone I guess.
[04:29] <tompa> benitnata yea that was the case, I spelled wrong "VIRITUALbox" and didnt find it in ubuntu software center, so i search for some random command on internet
[04:30] <tompa> bentinata the folder is located under home/virtualbox
[04:30] <mansoor-s> I am unable to connect to my server with SSH (http://pastie.org/private/yr4niedzxdhzz1ojgakqrq). Could anyone take a look and tell me whats going on?
[04:31] <somsip> mansoor-s: it's strange that your ~/.ssh/mansoor.pem is tried as a private key but only publickey auth methods can continue. Could this be an issue? I've not seen it before, but can't say I connect with -v very often...
[04:31] <MTsol> Do I need to download the additional drivers oackage to resolve my issue?
[04:31] <somsip> mansoor-s: and you usually need to connect as ubuntu@ec2... so maybe that would help
[04:31] <mansoor-s> somsip, -v means verbose, it spits out all of the information
[04:32] <somsip> mansoor-s: I know what it means. I just don't have to use it
[04:32] <servvs> how can I get the wimax to work on an intel 6150 wimax card?
[04:32] <bentinata> tompa, is the executable inside that folder? you can directly delete it
[04:32] <mansoor-s> somsip, I don't either, when it works XD
[04:32] <mansoor-s> ubuntu@ doesnt' work either :(
[04:33] <somsip> mansoor-s: ok - my EC2 pem shows as private in -v but connects fine so it's a red herring
[04:33] <MTsol> Do I need to download the additional drivers oackage to resolve my issue?
[04:33] <somsip> mansoor-s: and you used mansoor key when you started the instance? Have you ever been able to connect to this one?
[04:33] <tompa> bentinata im afraid not, what is the equivalence to .exe in linux?
[04:33] <bentinata> tompa, none
[04:33] <usr13> MTsol: We don't know.
[04:33] <bentinata> tompa, it marked as executable
[04:34] <mansoor-s> somsip, hmm, i created the key, but how do I "use" it with the instance?
[04:34] <adoniscik> rhymthbox behaves differently depending on whether I run it from the command line or Dash. If I use the icon, I get "network connection" errors. Why might this be?
[04:34] <bentinata> tompa, you can even execute a .txt file
[04:34] <mansoor-s> i rebooted the instance after creating the key, and this is the first time i'm trying to ssh into the server
[04:34] <somsip> mansoor-s: when you cereate the instance, it's on the...4th setup screen
[04:34] <usr13> tompa: A file that has the executable bit set to it.
[04:34] <servvs> how can I get the wimax to work on an intel 6150 wimax card?
[04:35] <somsip> mansoor-s: well that's a fail then. You must add PEM keys when you create, or you can do it after but you need to upload the key and suchlike
[04:35] <usr13> tompa: Linux does not need file-names to determine whether it's executable or not.
[04:35] <mansoor-s> somsip, AHH you are onto it
[04:35] <mansoor-s> the instance is already created, i must figure out how to set the key after its been created
[04:36] <tompa> bentinata hmm okey, however i don't think it is
[04:36] <somsip> mansoor-s: yes
[04:36] <bentinata> tompa, how you install the virtualbox?
[04:36] <tompa> user13 okey :) just took it for granted it was built on the same idea
[04:37] <tompa> bentinata I followed the commands at this link http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-virtualbox-4112-on-ubuntu.html
[04:40] <bentinata> tompa, wait, I'm opening it, and probably for a long time (my connection is slower than snail)
[04:40] <tompa> bentinata no worries I'm glad someone even answering ! :)
[04:41] <usr13> tompa: You know that you could just use the package manager.  You can do it from command line:  sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[04:42] <usr13> tompa: and    sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-utils
[04:42] <adoniscik> rhymthbox behaves differently depending on whether I run it from the command line or Dash. If I use the icon, I get "network connection" errors. Why might this be?
[04:42] <mansoor-s> thank you very much somsip
[04:42] <somsip> mansoor-s: np
[04:43] <tompa> usr13 I did spell wrong first time "VIRITUALbox" and thought it wasnt in the default ppa...
[04:43] <usr13> tompa: If you didn't know, you could do a search, like:  apt-cache search virtual |grep box
[04:43] <usr13> tompa: Do it now so you'll see.
[04:46] <tompa> usr13 hmm what does that information tell me? Did i do a search in the default ppa for "box" ? and the result is the hits of the search?
[04:47] <bentinata> I'm new to IRC, and I like this. this is better than listening my teacher up ahead. xD
[04:47] <tompa> bentinata what are u studying?
[04:48] <cub> what is a gflop?
[04:48] <GerbilSoft> cub: surface rt ;)
[04:48] <GerbilSoft> actually "gigaflop"
[04:49] <GerbilSoft> i.e. one billion floating point operations per second
[04:49] <usr13> tompa: It showed you available (authorized) packages that can be installed.
[04:50] <cub> how do i find a certain process in terminal
[04:50] <cub> for example.. locate apache or chrome
[04:50] <somsip> cub: locate apache; locate chrome
[04:50] <cub> and ty GerbilSoft
[04:50] <tompa> usr13 okey :) is it always searching in the default OS version's repository?
[04:51] <bentinata> tompa, oh
[04:51] <cub> okay somsip, and this will show me the process too as well as ID?
[04:51] <bentinata> tompa, try sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-4.1
[04:51] <usr13> tompa: You are always better off installing packages via the package manager. Pretty much anything you could want is available via Ubuntu's package manager.  If you install only from the package manager, you'll be assured everything will work as expected.  When you deviate from that method, things may not work well for you.
[04:51] <somsip> cub: it will show you where it is in the filesystem. Do you want something like 'ps aux' instead?
[04:51] <cub> yes
[04:51] <usr13> tompa: Yes, that is correct
[04:54] <cub> somsip how would i find a certain process by name then?
[04:54] <cub> ps aux -C ?
[04:54] <somsip> cub: I'd grep it - ps aux | grep apache
[04:54] <bentinata> tompa, according to your tutorial try "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-4.1"
[04:54] <usr13> cub: ps aux |grep process-name
[04:54] <cub> whats grep do?
[04:55] <cfhowlett> cub, info grep or man grep on the terminal will tell you
[04:55] <somsip> cub: outputs lines that match a string/expression
[04:55] <tompa> usr13 yeah i know, as I said i search for it but couldnt find it so I assumed it wasnt included (as many other programs ain't). Thank you for all handy information love the support!
[04:55] <usr13> cub: grep print lines matching a pattern
[04:55] <cub> ok ty
[04:55] <tompa> bentinata yeah it worked! Thanks. how did you find the name of the file?
[04:56] <bentinata> tompa, your link just finished loaded
[04:56] <bentinata> xD
[04:57] <tompa> bentinata lol
[05:06] <challenger> ??
[05:07] <challenger> hlwwww
[05:07] <bentinata> challenger, yo?
[05:08] <challenger> bentinata, i'm having problem regarding connection speed
[05:08] <challenger> it was working fine .. but from last couple of days its getting slow down
[05:08] <dr_willis> apt-get supports tab completion. so  apt-get remove vir<tab> should  have shown a list  that should have included  virtualbox. :)   for future referance
[05:09] <challenger> sometime it gets disconnected after 10-15 min
[05:09] <challenger> don't know what to do
[05:10] <dr_willis> could be interfearnce from some one elses stuff
[05:10] <challenger> :|
[05:10] <bentinata> maybe it cause your provider
[05:10] <dr_willis> if you are on wireless
[05:10] <challenger> no .. i'm on wired connection
[05:10] <dr_willis> cable? dsl? other?
[05:10] <challenger> i 've checked out everything  ..network card.. preference,
[05:11] <challenger> dsl connection
[05:11] <randomjay> im in asia, everything is always slow :/ other computers on the network are not suffering from speed drops?
[05:12] <MK`> What is the name of the laptop battery applet in 11.10 for gnome fallback? Mine crashed, want to reenable it.
[05:13] <challenger> is there any command i can use here to show u my sys info?
[05:13] <challenger> inxi isn't wrking
[05:13] <challenger> dr_willis? interference? magnetic? electrical ? what kinda?
[05:14] <MK`> Which sys info challenger?
[05:14] <challenger> like network info ?
[05:14] <MK`> ah, I do not know about that
[05:15] <challenger> MK` : :)
[05:16] <onborad> us
[05:16] <challenger> phew .. now i'm thinking of switching to mint or arch
[05:16] <challenger> (maybe its a bad idea) but don't know what to do know
[05:16] <seednode> Arch is an... interesting experience
[05:17] <onborad> use UEFI only  start ubuntu 12.04 version ,Xorg couldn't start ,and report  [     6.275] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10
[05:17] <seednode> Speaking from two years of using it
[05:17] <onborad> [     6.276] (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[05:17] <onborad> any one ideas?
[05:17] <challenger> seednode: really .. i didn't give it try ever
[05:17] <challenger> afraid of loosing data during installation
[05:17] <seednode> If you're annoyed with Ubuntu about having issues
[05:17] <seednode> You might want to avoid Arch
[05:17] <challenger> people say that its hard to configure it during installation
[05:17] <seednode> It's fun, and an interesting hobby
[05:18] <seednode> But it requires quite a bit of tweaking to work well
[05:18] <seednode> Eh, installation isn't bad.
[05:18] <onborad> (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[05:18] <seednode> All command line, though
[05:18] <challenger> phew
[05:19] <seednode> So if you're newish to Linux, I'd avoid it
[05:19] <seednode> I don't know how much experience you have
[05:19] <challenger> before i can download arch i need to get out of this prob.. cann't download bcoz of slow and unstable connection
[05:19] <challenger> seednode: i'm not so bad at cmdline
[05:20] <seednode> Well, honestly, ALL conf is command line
[05:20] <rypervenche> challenger: How long have you been using Linux?
[05:20] <challenger> i have 2 year experience
[05:20] <seednode> There are no GUIs by default
[05:20] <seednode> Only those from the DE/WM you install
[05:20] <challenger> i hate eye candy stuffs like win 8  or unity
[05:20] <rypervenche> Then I'd say it's possible for you.
[05:20] <seednode> I use Openbox with Arch
[05:20] <xangua> !ot | challenger seednode
[05:20] <seednode> Perfect for my uses
[05:20] <seednode> Oh, sorry.
[05:20] <seednode> Keep forgetting this isn't off-topic
[05:20] <seednode> I don't have labels up
[05:21] <bentinata> challenger, me tha same
[05:21] <challenger> ubottu : sorry boss
[05:21] <challenger> bentinata, :-)
[05:21] <seednode> challenger, hop into offtopic
[05:21] <bentinata> challenger, cause of that I use xfce4
[05:21] <seednode> xangua, though honestly you could just tell me, instead of using the bot
[05:21] <challenger> exfce4?  i've never used KDE .. nor i want to
[05:22] <challenger> exfce . lightweight de
[05:22] <challenger> grt . people suggest me often xfce
[05:22] <seednode> It's kinda ugly
[05:22] <rypervenche> I use Xfce too.
[05:22] <challenger> but  isn't graphics very poor?
[05:22] <challenger> in xfce
[05:23] <rypervenche> It is what you make it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19330159/Linux/screenshot1.png
[05:23] <seednode> challenger, move to #ubuntu-offtopic, else we'll be yelled at again
[05:23] <challenger> i like gnome X.Y
[05:23] <challenger> seednode  :P
[05:23] <seednode> Not gonna lie, rypervenche, I don't like that look
[05:23] <seednode> But to each their own
[05:23] <challenger> please someone hand me out guidline link please :(
[05:24] <rypervenche> http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[05:24] <seednode> challenger, you're only supposed to discuss the current Ubuntu release using Unity/GNOME3 here
[05:24] <seednode> Anything else is for offtopic
[05:24] <izx> apt-cacher-ng server is not working. Could anyone help me pls..?? Am getting "W: Failed to fetch http://cacher-server:4242/us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found"
[05:24] <challenger> seednode : as you say boss
[05:25] <osmrducks> whre do i get a free version of ubuntu
[05:25] <challenger> now  to the main point.. i'm still in trouble
[05:25] <osmrducks> ?
[05:25] <xangua> izx: maverick has no longer support....since 2011
[05:25] <xangua> osmrducks: from ubuntu.com
[05:25] <challenger> couldn't find solution to my prob
[05:25] <bentinata> osmrducks, Ubuntu is FREE
[05:25] <osmrducks> and is free? the one i can run off disk?
[05:26] <bentinata> osmrducks, yes
[05:26] <izx> xangua: This cacher server runs fine till yesterday.. It was there since 2009
[05:26] <randomjay> if you are talking about a physical cd, i think you might have to pay for shipping, right?
[05:26] <osmrducks> all plaaces ive tryed to get they want money for
[05:26] <zg> I had an issue installing the bootloader, what do I do? I chose /dev/sdb, but that didn't help
[05:26] <randomjay> downloading an image that you can burn onto a cd yourself is free of charge.
[05:26] <osmrducks> i will go to it tho thanks.. im new to linux... heard it was awesome and wanted to try it
[05:26] <bentinata> osmrducks, I always download it at ubuntu.com, and burn the CD myself
[05:27] <randomjay> this is probably what you are after: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[05:27] <kunji> osmrducks: Use a USB drive, don't even need to waste a CD ^_^
[05:27] <osmrducks> and can i use it on a laptop?
[05:27] <seednode> osmrducks, yes
[05:27] <randomjay> not sure where youve been looking if they want to charge you money for a copy of ubuntu
[05:27] <bentinata> osmrducks, yes you can
[05:27] <osmrducks> cool
[05:27] <osmrducks> thank u all
[05:28] <bentinata> they charge for shipping, it worth it
[05:28] <seednode> On any x86/x64 computer, usually
[05:28] <osmrducks> i thought u could download it?
[05:28] <seednode> You can do both
[05:28] <bentinata> oh, I'm just discussing, download is free
[05:28] <osmrducks> where to download?  ubuntu.com?
[05:28] <bentinata> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[05:29] <Malimbar> would this be a decent place to debug a problem with Steam?
[05:29] <randomjay> bentinata, i never tried ordering a dvd myself.. is there anything else included in the shipment but a disc? such as.. i dont know.. documentation? fun freebies?
[05:29] <challenger> arghhh !!!!!!
[05:29] <zg> Malimbar: perhaps #steamlug
[05:29] <xangua> !manual | random
[05:29] <Malimbar> thanks zg
[05:30] <challenger> obottu: :D (:X)
[05:30] <bentinata> randomjay, me too, but my friend buy it, and he get ~20 dvd
[05:30] <pianoman> hello, i tried installing ubuntu via dvd but when the menu to choose for installing or trying it, it took me to a black screen and not the ubuntu looking screen that it should have been. when i hit install it didn
[05:30] <pianoman> t work
[05:30] <osmrducks> so the ubuntu desktop will work on laptop?
[05:30] <osmrducks> =)
[05:30] <randomjay> osmrducks yes
[05:30] <osmrducks> k sorry for all the questions
[05:31] <bentinata> osmrducks, no worry
[05:31] <challenger> pianoman. may be you are installing ubuntu in txt mode
[05:31] <randomjay> no its ok. they just call it the desktop version because its for desktop/workstation use, and that includes your laptop. the other two options are Server and Cloud, which you probably wont have to worry about just yet ;q
[05:31] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:32] <pianoman> well i burned it to the disc correctly and it automatically detected it and started. but the installation failed. what does the txt mode mean?
[05:32] <challenger> which one version are you trying to install? pianoman
[05:33] <pianoman> 12.10
[05:33] <challenger> maybe obottu is right pianoman
[05:34] <dr_willis> try the nomodeset option
[05:35] <challenger> pianoman,  you can post screenshot here if you have one
[05:36] <pianoman> i'm not sure how to do it. the best i can describe it though is that it looks like  normal black boot screen. it has a short code and says it failed challenger
[05:37] <challenger> pianoman . try to install it in vbox
[05:37] <challenger> virtualbox = vbox
[05:38] <pianoman> how do i do that?
[05:38] <challenger> currently what os are you using?
[05:38] <pianoman> im using windows 8
[05:38] <challenger> than download virtualbox from virtualbox.org
[05:39] <challenger> and install it . u can install ubuntu 12.10 through its image
[05:39] <challenger> it will be handy
[05:39] <challenger> if you are new to linux or afraid to use it
[05:39] <challenger> just give a try to vbox
[05:40] <challenger> don't need to make real partition or disk formatting
[05:40] <dr_willis> vbox is to handy to not use ;)
[05:40] <dr_willis> a little linux disrto in vbox can be a lot of fun and usefull
[05:41] <challenger> dr_willis: in case of data risk( data lose)
[05:41] <challenger> it will be handy if u just want to give a try
[05:41] <Aditya^_> hey guys
[05:41] <Aditya^_> i am running windows 8 and wana get dual boot
[05:41] <Aditya^_> i have the iso file
[05:41] <Aditya^_> how to install via usb
[05:42] <pianoman> well i've already tried ubuntu. i want to install it but its still not working. why?
[05:42] <dr_willis> use one of the many tools to 'burn' the iso to usb making a live usb. the pendrivelinux site has several to try  Aditya^_
[05:42] <dr_willis> Aditya^_:  then boot the usb and use the installer.
[05:43] <dr_willis> ive no idea how windows 8 will affect things however
[05:43] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. make backups first
[05:43] <pianoman> i have the same issue as aditya.
[05:43] <young001> 如何判断一个句子是不是全是由英文字母组成的?标点符号在里面也可以
[05:43] <young001> 就是给一个句子，判断是不是全是英文
[05:43] <leku> pianoman
[05:43] <pianoman> i'd be happy to make a usb if i knew itd work
[05:43] <leku> could be EFI boot vs bios boot
[05:43] <Ben64> !cn
[05:43] <leku> or problem with secure boot?
[05:43] <challenger>  aditya: use UNetbootin
[05:43] <pianoman> the difference being?
[05:44] <dr_willis> theres dozens of tools/ways to make a bootable usb from the ISO.
[05:44] <challenger> u can make any usb bootable through it
[05:44] <challenger> very easy to use tool
[05:44] <leku> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[05:44] <challenger> unetbootin
[05:44] <young001> how to judge if a sentence is all consisted by english
[05:44] <dr_willis> lookl at the pendricelinux site and see whats there challenger
[05:44] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux.org or .com.. i forget
[05:45] <challenger> dr_willis, okay sir
[05:45] <dr_willis> some people have issues with some tools, or otehrs.. so its  ok to try several
[05:45] <dr_willis> i like the pendrivelinux tool thst lets me put several differnt isos on the same  large flash drive
[05:45] <Aditya^_> pendrive linux i should try?
[05:46] <fmedina> hello
[05:46] <dr_willis> Aditya^_:  its a site with tools to put iso on usb/flash... if thatts what you need to do
[05:46] <challenger> dr_willis: then whats d prob with using unetbootin?
[05:47] <dr_willis> challenger:  ive had unetbootin NOT work.. thats why i reccomend s site that lists several tools
[05:47] <challenger> unetbootin allows to create bootable usb without burning to cd/dvd
[05:47] <fmedina> fixing up my X1 Carbon with Ubuntu 12.10... want to custom kernel to get rid of unwanted stuff, anyone have a working config for kernel 3.7 for X1 Carbon by any chance?  first attempt did not boot :-)
[05:47] <dr_willis> so do dozens of other tools
[05:47] <challenger> dr_willis: but it worked for me sir :)
[05:47] <dr_willis> challenger:  and ive had it not work dozens of times
[05:48] <fmedina> is there a place for working configs on custom kernels for different machines?
[05:48] <Aditya^_> downloaded one from there
[05:48] <Aditya^_> its running
[05:48] <dr_willis> some times theres version issues, or weird usb  quirks.
[05:48] <dr_willis> and often some tools you may find at the pendrivelinux site have neat other features.. like multi iso. or they can auto download the iso. or other cool features
[05:49] <Aditya^_> after it finishes i need to  reboot and boot from usb ?
[05:49] <challenger> dr_willis, grt
[05:49] <dr_willis> Aditya^_:  thats the normal procedure yes
[05:49] <dr_willis> Aditya^_:  you have backed up imprornt stuff?
[05:50] <Aditya^_> i am installing it on other partition
[05:50] <dr_willis> if theres a power failure or other issue during the instsaller resizeing your existing system.. thst can be very bad
[05:50] <Aditya^_> its empty
[05:50] <dr_willis> if otehr partion allready exists.. that makes it much easier. ;)
[05:50] <challenger> now time to leave .. .
[05:51] <Aditya^_> Creating the persistant file
[05:51] <Aditya^_> persistence*
[05:52] <dr_willis> just for installing you really dont need one. ;) but it wont hurt
[05:52] <g00053> oh #ubuntu, how I heart you
[05:52] <Aditya^_> dr willis
[05:52] <Aditya^_> restarting
[05:52] <Aditya^_> time to see if it works
[05:54] <wting> How do I list all the ppas added via add-apt-repository? It's not in /etc/apt/sources.list...
[05:55] <dr_willis> wting:  sources.list.d
[05:55] <dr_willis>  each ppa has its own config files
[05:55] <wting> ahh ok, thankd dr_willis
[05:55] <dr_willis> makes it easy to see whats there ;)
[05:56] <dr_willis> the old way of altering sources.list is a bit of a no no these days
[06:06] <leku> how come when I start e17, I still see a bunch of unity processes running?
[06:07] <leku> how do I kill this crap
[06:07] <wting> dr_willis: I don't know, I'm still stuck in my old ways. It's a lot easier to add/remove ppas. So far ppa-purge and apt-add-repository --remove have failed.
[06:07] <dD0T> I have disabled system wide proxy and yet get $http_proxy set. I can't figure out where this is done. Nothing in .bashrc, bash_aliases, /etc/environment. This is Ubuntu 12.10. Any ideas where this might come from? Thanks.
[06:09] <mesquka> Hi
[06:09] <osmrducks> can i run the ubuntu dl off my hd?
[06:09] <dr_willis> osmrducks:  you mean run the ISO file?
[06:10] <dr_willis> vbox can boot an ISO file
[06:10] <osmrducks> where to get the vbox>
[06:10] <osmrducks> ?
[06:10] <dr_willis> at its homepage
[06:10] <dr_willis> !vbox
[06:10] <BlackDalek> are there any soloutions for the "ubuntu 12.10 will not install past first step" problem?
[06:10] <dr_willis> im not sure how well unity works in  vbox
[06:11] <dr_willis> what first step BlackDalek ?
[06:13] <nibbler> in which order are the initramfs-tools scripts executed? is init-premount always executed before local-top?
[06:13] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, the window which is titled "Preparing to install Ubuntu" and has "download updates" ticked and "install third-party software"... click continue and the spinning pointer appears and installer stalls at that point with no further action evident.
[06:14] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  networking is enabled?
[06:15] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, it is connected wirelessly to the local network. This is the same issue this person has here  - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081850 no solution was found there either and I couldn't find aother thread with the same problem.
[06:16] <osmrducks> dr which virtual box should i get?
[06:16] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, I too and trying to install the 32bit regular ubuntu to a 64bit PC.... same as original poster in that thread. Do you think trying the 64bit version of 12.10 would make a difference?
[06:17] <osmrducks> i dont want to install it.... i want to run it first and see if i like it... ive never tryed it before and see what its all about
[06:18] <kryfox> yo
[06:18] <gnomefreak> anyne know if there is a command that starts with the word "paste"?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> anyone even
[06:19] <g00053> running it from an hd or vb or usb will not net the same performance as installing tho ?
[06:19] <magn3ts> gnomefreak, yes.
[06:19] <nibbler> gnomefreak: apt-file search bin/paste
[06:19] <gnomefreak> magn3ts: thanks
[06:20]  * nibbler still wonders why apt-file is not installed by default....
[06:21] <osmrducks> what version of vbox should i download to run linux and try it out?
[06:22] <osmrducks> VBOX for linux hosts?
[06:22] <somsip> !vbox | osmrducks
[06:22] <dr_willis> windows is your host
[06:23] <dr_willis> Host = the machine running vbox.. guest = the Os IN vbox
[06:23] <osmrducks> oh
[06:23] <dr_willis> the vbox manual is wirth reading also
[06:24] <osmrducks> ok am there and reading... thanks again
[06:24] <ozzloy> rhythmbox sometimes stops playback on .flac files.  i tried deleting ~/.gstreamer-0.10/registry.x86_64.bin and that worked for a few songs, but it stops on flac songs still
[06:24] <ozzloy> how do i make rhythmbox play flac songs always?
[06:25] <petergk> hey all
[06:25] <dr_willis> could be its stopping because of the encoding of the flac.. does it always stop on the same file?
[06:26] <ozzloy> dr_willis, not sure.  next time it stops on a song i'll try deleting that file and trying it again
[06:26] <ozzloy> "deleting" actually i'm moving it
[06:27] <dr_willis> just jot down what file its stopping on.. and try to play it by itself
[06:27] <ozzloy> definitely more than one flac file
[06:28] <ozzloy> and they were all created in the last week or so
[06:28] <ozzloy> my whole cd collection was ripped
[06:28] <dr_willis> if every file from the cd that was ripped the same way.. has issues.. that points to some file format or bug in the app
[06:28] <dr_willis> unless its having issues reading the files from hd.
[06:29] <ozzloy> all the files were ripped in the same way
[06:29] <ozzloy> some play, some don't
[06:29] <dr_willis> dmesg may show if theres any IO errors
[06:31] <ozzloy> interesting
[06:31] <ozzloy> this time all i had to do was double click the file in the playlist and it started playing
[06:31] <ozzloy> wtf wtf
[06:32] <dr_willis> so it played like 10 songs.. then stopped.. then you started it again
[06:32] <dr_willis> with the 11th
[06:36] <ozzloy> something like that
[06:36] <ozzloy> i'm waiting for it to die again
[06:36] <dr_willis> it wont do it while you are watching.....
[06:36] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:36] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, do you think that there is anyway to install 12.10 on a PC which can't get past first step of installer or do you think there might be a way around it?
[06:37] <ozzloy> maybe i'll start rhythmbox from terminal and watch for debug output
[06:37] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  Run the installer from a terminal. look for error messages.  you did try unchecking the boxs >
[06:37] <grendal-prime> what in the hell is going on with getdeb.net?
[06:37] <dr_willis> grendal-prime:  been down for like a month i think
[06:37] <grendal-prime> is it ever going to be back up?
[06:38] <grendal-prime> jesus ill give them a server if they need it
[06:38] <grendal-prime> wtf
[06:38] <dr_willis> no idea. ;) i never really used the site
[06:38] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, how do I run the installer from the terminal?
[06:38] <dr_willis> command is 'ubiquity' i think BlackDalek
[06:38] <mayank> how do i install my canon lbp2900 printer on ubuntu 12.10
[06:38] <grendal-prime> mayank,  plug it in
[06:39] <user__> exit
[06:39] <user__> quit
[06:39] <mayank> its plugged in and on, but no drivers for lbp2900
[06:39] <user__> \quit
[06:39] <grendal-prime> that is a total guess by the way but that seems to work for me with every other printer ive worked with
[06:41] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, could you possibly be a bit less vague... i.e.  Do I boot into a live session from the installed CD, the open a terminal window and type ubiquity.. or do I boot up in the old OS (11.10) and use a terminal from that then insert the installer CD, or use a ctrl+alt+F1 terminal?
[06:41] <dr_willis> check the cups.org site and the linuxprinting.org site to see if its supported at all.
[06:41] <dr_willis> canon is rather poor in their linux support
[06:41] <dr_willis> on the live cd. open a terminal  and run 'gksudo ubiquity'
[06:41] <dr_willis> you dont install from within a installed os
[06:41] <mayank> its showing other model drivers but not lbp2900
[06:42] <mayank> how do i download drivers for ubuntu 12.10
[06:42] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, ok... I will give it a go and see if I get any errors ;)
[06:42] <dr_willis> mayank:  perhaps one of those may work if they are similer.  check the package manager for canon drivers if you cant select them from the printer config dialogs
[06:42] <dr_willis> or 'apt-cache search canon' and see whaats there
[06:44] <mayank> where to use apt-cache?, whats the whole command?
[06:45] <Aditya^> 235268546gh
[06:45] <Aditya^> \\\
[06:45] <Aditya^> c
[06:45] <Aditya^> "bm cf
[06:45]  * gnomefreak doesnt see canon on raGING
[06:45] <FloodBot1> Aditya^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <Aditya^> oops
[06:45] <Aditya^> sorry
[06:45] <Aditya^> de willis
[06:45] <Aditya^> dr*
[06:45] <gnomefreak> mayank: THE FUL COMMAND TYPE APT-CACHE SEARCH CANON
[06:45] <gnomefreak> OPPS
[06:46] <dr_willis> apt-cache search canon'  would be the command.. ;)
[06:46] <dr_willis> heh
[06:46] <Aditya^> the usb thing didnot work
[06:46] <Aditya^> i burned a DVD and installed
[06:46] <Aditya^> but
[06:46] <Aditya^> at the startup
[06:46] <dr_willis> we can read more then 4 words on a single line Aditya^
[06:46] <Aditya^> it doesnt ask me to b/w win8 and ubuntu
[06:47] <Bneyt> Anybody have a problem with the Realtek r8168 drivers here?
[06:47] <dr_willis> You have a spare hard drive or partuon thats empty?
[06:47] <Aditya^> Yes
[06:47] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: i cant find canon in raring
[06:48] <viking667> sigh. Well, I seem to have fglrx working again, though not against xorg 1.14
[06:48] <viking667> I had to use a ppa and downgrade to xorg 1.13
[06:48] <Bneyt> hi, Anybody have a problem with the Realtek r8168 drivers here?
[06:48] <onborad>  use UEFI only  start ubuntu 12.04 version ,Xorg couldn't start ,and report  [     6.275] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10
 [     6.276] (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[06:48] <onborad> any one ideas
[06:49] <haracha> how do i activate a program on a mounted .iso from cli
[06:49] <ozzloy> dr_willis, it stopped again!
[06:49] <mayank> ok willis, its shows full page something....but now wat?
[06:50] <dr_willis> Aditya^:  you could partion the hd how you want using the advanced features of the installer.  you normally need 2 partitions, one for '/'  of type ext4 and one for 'swap' of the type swap
[06:50] <guest16> haracha, find out the path where it is mounted, typically it's under /media/
[06:50] <dr_willis> mayank:  install any canon drivers you may find listed.
[06:50] <haracha> it displays a garbage filepath without slashes instead it has the % codes & it hints at ~
[06:50] <haracha> or /home/user/
[06:50] <haracha> something
[06:51] <Bneyt> hi, Anybody have any experience installing the Realtek r8168 drivers?
[06:51] <dr_willis> mount command should show the mountpoints
[06:51] <mayank> its says already installed
[06:52] <mayank> but still not printout wen i give the print command
[06:52] <mayank> i dont understand
[06:53] <haracha> how do i change permissions on a default app mounted .iso
[06:54] <dr_willis> haracha:   why are you needing to do that? change what permissions?
[06:55] <Chad__> Can anyone answer a quick question I have about rsnapshot (rsnapshot irc channel is dead).
[06:55] <haracha> x a cutable
[06:55] <haracha> and i wanna install one of my favorite games :>
[06:56] <dr_willis> haracha:  use  wine  /path/to/the/whatever.exe
[06:56] <sameerfx_> Can someone help me with some partitioning in gparted? Here is the issue I'm running into: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=16754
[06:56] <dr_willis> the idea of double clicking a .exe and it running.. is.. well problematic
[06:56] <sameerfx_> basically, I have 4 primary partitions, one of which is extended.
[06:56] <sameerfx_> I can't create a new logical partition in that extended partition
[06:56] <dr_willis> since for some ODD reason they have decided the .exe needs to be executable for 'security' reasons
[06:56] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, tried running ubiquity from terminal of live session... not one single error or piece of info appeared in the terminal window. Installer still stalls at same point. Also tried with both boxes un-checked... :(    No solution exists?
[06:56] <dr_willis> which is no security at all
[06:57] <sameerfx_> Here is a screenshot of the error: http://i.imgur.com/wxdZB.png
[06:57] <amagee> hey, i'm trying to increase my open file limit
[06:57] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  checedked the forums?  and askubuntu.com? ive never heard of that problem happening in here befor
[06:57] <sameerfx_> amagee, have you tried ulimit?
[06:57] <amagee> i've put "amagee hard nofile 50000" and "amagee soft nofile 50000" in /etc/security/limits.conf, but i still can't use "ulimit -n 50000" to increase it
[06:58] <amagee> it says "bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted"
[06:58] <guest16> sameerfx_: first extend the logical partition over the unallocated space, then select the "new" unallocated area that you'll see in the logical partition
[06:58] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, I've been trying google before I came here (still looking now as we speak) and that one post on the forums is all I've managed to come up with so far...
[06:59] <guest16> sameerfx_: the first step is, select the logical partition, then click the button above with the the arrow.
[06:59] <sameerfx_> amagee, did you try sudoing that? (run it as root?)
[06:59] <guest16> Sorry, first select the /extended/ partition.
[06:59] <guest16> replace logical with extended in my comments above.
[06:59] <amagee> yes, but it doesn't work (also, ulimit is user-specific so that doesn't really make sense in this case)
[07:00] <sameerfx_> guest16, trying that now
[07:00] <guest16> To select the extended partition, you click the border, not the area inside (which would select the logical partitions instead)
[07:00] <guest16> The cyan border.
[07:00] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  tehres  may be some logs in /var/log   it could be its a bad cd/dvd burn also. You tried it on a differnt machine?
[07:01] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, it is the same DVD which installed to this very PC I am talking to you on now.
[07:02] <sameerfx_> guest16, will I need to reboot into a liveCD to do this?
[07:02] <sameerfx_> Under the Extended partition, 2 of the partitions are / and /home.
[07:02] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  dirty work around...  do a full install to a 8gb usb flash drive... then  use dd to image that flash to the HD of the problem pc. ;) then gparted to resize the partitons
[07:02] <sameerfx_> So maybe since those partitions are mounted, I may not be able to expand the Extended area?
[07:02] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  or swap the HDS  install.. put it back in the problem box
[07:03] <sameerfx_> I clicked on the cyan border, but resize is grayed out
[07:03] <haracha> dr_willis i put the .iso on a virtual mount point which i haven't exposed to my brains as to where yet
[07:03] <dr_willis> you dont resize in use/mounted filesystems
[07:03] <guest16> I don't know.
[07:03] <sameerfx_> I'll try to do that, thanks.
[07:03] <bnathan> hi, does anybody here have any experience installing the realtek r8168 drivers?
[07:03] <dr_willis> haracha:  huh?
[07:03] <haracha> my computer has the .exe mounted on a virtual drive which i don't yet understand how to pinpoint in CLI :I
[07:04] <bnathan> hi, does anybody here have any experience installing the realtek r8168 drivers?
[07:04] <dr_willis> haracha:  you are mounting an ISO file in vbox under linux?
[07:04] <bnathan> hi, does anybody here have any experience installing the realtek r8168 drivers?
[07:05] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, that HD swap idea almost sounded perfect! until I realised the problem machine's HD is sata and my only other 12.10 capable PCs are IDE :(
[07:05] <haracha> no no i mounted it with the default app that comes with mister ubuntu current :3
[07:05] <dr_willis> haracha:  see where the mount command says its at.
[07:05] <bnathan> hi, does anybody here have any experience installing the realtek r8168 drivers?
[07:05] <dr_willis> haracha:  or mount it by hand.
[07:05] <dr_willis> !iso
[07:06] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  i got a usb hd adaptor that does all the hd sizes/ports. ;)  best $25 i spent
[07:06] <exiff> Fondest of greetings to you all.
[07:06] <exiff> Which channel or irc network do i go to to get help with the evolution mail client?
[07:07] <bnathan> hi, does anybody know which IRC I could get help with linux drivers?
[07:08] <TakeItEZ> !anyone | bnathan
[07:08] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, and the full install to a flash drive workaround sounds bad.. in that it sounds like it will wipe all the data from the problem PC :( furthermore, I just found this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/204771/ubuntu-12-10-installation-hangs-at-preparing-to-install-ubuntu which seems to suggest that the way around the problem is to format the drive :(
[07:08] <bnathan> !details
[07:11] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, this PC was a clean install, so that goes with the theory of it needing a clean drive to avoid the problem (on PCs which experience the problem)
[07:14] <dr_willis> sounds liek the installer cant figure out the partuon layout if  the fix suggests a reformat
[07:14] <dr_willis> you may be able to partion it by hand/resize/leave part unallocated first.. then start the installer
[07:16] <dr_willis> if the HD layout is the issue. then i would expect the problem to happen on a differnt machine if you swaped hds also
[07:17] <mayank> canon printer not working lbp2900, ubuntu 12.10
[07:17] <ElectricPrism> Q: how can I change the default location in the gnome open dialog from "recently used" to "home" ?
[07:18] <mayank> no response on print command
[07:20] <onborad> (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range xorg couldn't start
[07:20] <mayank_> can anybody help?
[07:20] <zg> I need help partitioning free space on a windows machine
[07:21] <mayank_> my laser printer canon lbp2900 not working on ubuntu 12.10
[07:21] <bnathan> Hi, I recently purchased a PC with a P8z77-M PRO ASUS Motherboard with a Realtek 8111b/8168b NIC. Upon installation of Ubuntu 12.10, I get a disabled network card using r8169 driver.I downloaded the latest r8168 drivers at http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false which is 8.035.00 and followed the instruction to run autorun.sh which compiled the driver and placed it in the appropri
[07:23] <mayank_>  my laser printer canon lbp2900 not working on ubuntu 12.10
[07:24] <dr_willis> mayank_:  you could do a write up on askubuntu.com asking about it and how to get it working...
[07:24] <dr_willis> it might not be doable.
[07:24] <bnathan> Hi, I recently purchased a PC with a P8z77-M PRO ASUS Motherboard with a Realtek 8111b/8168b NIC. Upon installation of Ubuntu 12.10, I get a disabled network card using r8169 driver.I downloaded the latest r8168 drivers at http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false which is 8.035.00 and followed the instruction to run autorun.sh which compiled the driver and placed it in the appropri
[07:24] <dr_willis> include what youve done, how you have configured it.. and any  cups logs that seem imporntant
[07:26] <dr_willis> bnathan:  shorten your question a bit.. its getting cut off.. and you have tried loading the modules via modprobe?
[07:26] <bnathan> thanks I'll try that solution right now
[07:27] <chiques> Has anyone played with an Ubuntu Smartphoe?
[07:28] <chiques> *Smartphone
[07:28] <bazhang> chiques, #ubuntu-phone
[07:28] <dr_willis> chiques:  im not sure they even exist right now
[07:28] <Geet_> how to create a shortcut icon for a command line
[07:28] <dr_willis> other then in 'just look dont touch' prototypes. :)
[07:28] <chiques> dr_willis, just curious, thanks
[07:29] <dr_willis> Geet_:  copy a existing .desktop launcher  somewhere  and edit it
[07:29] <dr_willis> Ill belivec in the ubuntu phone when i can actually go and buy one at the store/internet. ;)
[07:29] <dr_willis> ive had so many letdowns with Overyhyped  and vaporware hardware over the years
[07:29] <dr_willis> Vaporhardware? ;)
[07:30] <Geet_> what is a .desktop launcher?
[07:31] <Geet_> dr_willis ^
[07:31] <dr_willis> every gui app has a corseponding .desktop file
[07:31] <dr_willis> look at gedit.desktop for example
[07:31] <bnathan> hi dr willis, I did a modprobe -l and it showed that the module was there
[07:31] <chiques> dr_willis, Nokia's Samba was OK, if they could port just half of the the Ubuntu apps it would be amazing but your right, it's like those amazing concept cars GM is always promising to make available.
[07:31] <dr_willis> bnathan:  if the module loads.. look at dmesg output to see if any errors happen
[07:32] <dr_willis> chiques:  or that  similer idea phone  that came out a year or so ago.. atrix?
[07:34] <andu> cm
[07:37] <Shadekitty> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu 12.10 is compatable with VMWare 3.14? I'm having some really odd issues with my GUI…   sometimes my desktop shows up, sometimes it doesn't…  I haven't played with linux since Slackware 3 and couldn't find anything regarding this issue in any of the docs I looked at...
[07:38] <dr_willis> unity may have issues if the 3d drivers are not working right
[07:38] <Shadekitty> thx.. at least that gives me a direction to look… :)
[07:38] <dr_willis> try lubuntu  if you dont really want the fancy unity desktop
[07:39] <dr_willis> the askubuntu.com site may also have some guides/info on 12.10 in vmware.
[07:39] <dr_willis> i only use vbox  these days
[07:39] <bono> or qemu
[07:39] <WanderingEnder> VMWare what, btw?
[07:39] <WanderingEnder> ESXi, VSphere, Player, Workstation?
[07:39] <Shadekitty> I'm just exploring it for now as a whole. Job offer coming up and they primarily use ubuntu… it's been a while since I've touched any *nix systems…
[07:39] <Shadekitty> VMWare workstation 3.14
[07:40] <WanderingEnder> Use VirtualBox. You're not running VMWare on big iron, so there's no reason to stick with it.
[07:40] <Shadekitty> I'll check it out…
[07:42] <dr_willis> *nix is too handy to not have around. ;)
[07:42] <Shadekitty> I got lazy with windows…
[07:43] <Shadekitty> I did tinker with RHE at a job a few years back, but nothing major. Like I said.. my last real experience was slackware 3 if that gives you a timeframe…
[07:44] <Shadekitty> probably around the same time that I was last found in an IRC channel too.. LOL
[07:46] <bnathan> hi dr willis, I did the dmesg and I see "eth0 identified chip RTL8168f/R8111." "lshw -c" showed a network card of "r8168b/8111b"
[07:47] <dr_willis> this is a wired or wireless  network card?
[07:47] <bnathan> wired network card
[07:48] <dr_willis> ifconfig shows an eth0 device then?
[07:48] <bnathan> no. only the loopback
[07:48] <dr_willis> try modprobing the module again and look at the end of dmesg output perhaps? it may give a clue
[07:49] <bnathan> ok. thanks
[07:50] <zg> hi i'm having an issue booting my system
[07:50] <zg> I'm getting the error /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present
[07:51] <zg> when I type 'swapon -a' it says 'swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: start failed: No such file or directory
[07:52] <dr_willis> you are using an encrypted swap partition?
[07:52] <petergk> zg: it's a cryptswap problem....
[07:52] <petergk> or partition
[07:53] <zg> I enabled encrypt home directory
[07:53] <kesh-may> i have a question about using wine, is it possible for me to run a game (sims 3) using all of the expansion packs that have been purchased as well
[07:53] <dr_willis> kesh-may:  check the wine app database perhaps.
[07:53] <dr_willis> !appdb
[07:53] <petergk> zg cryptsetup remove cryptswap1
[07:54] <zg> "Device cryptswap1 is not active."
[07:54] <kesh-may> i know that i can play the sims on wine but will it allow me to use the expansion packs as well they are all on seperate disk
[07:54] <petergk> zg: you can edit some stuff in the /etc/crypttab?
[07:54] <RollinV2> anyway to automatically load a set theme + icon set? I'd like to make my own login sessions based on themes (minimal for work, fancy for home, etc)
[07:54] <bnathan> hi dr willis, I did a "modprobe -v r8168" and the module is not doing anything presently. the last message on dmesg was the discrepancy of the identified network card type
[07:55] <dr_willis> so the module seems confused about the card sounds like
[07:56] <bnathan> dr_willis: Is there anything I could do or I have to ask help from Realtek?
[07:57] <dr_willis> bnathan:  i doubt if they will care or help.  you could check the arch linux wiki if the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com help fails. they may have some info about the card in their wiki pages
[07:57] <helmut_> hi
[07:57] <bnathan> ok. thanks a lot
[07:58] <dr_willis> bnathan:  id also test a 13.04 live cd - see if the newer kernel in it works with the card.
[07:58] <warm> hi, I am connecting my laptop  via HDMI to a TV, and when i close the lid, the output stops. how to solve that?
[07:58] <bnathan> ah ok.
[07:58] <zg> petergk: yes
[07:58] <zg> cryptswap1 /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256
[07:58] <zg> that's the only line in the file
[07:59] <warm> I set the option in the power management to Do Nothing, but it won't help.
[08:00] <Shadekitty> check power management in your BIOS?
[08:01] <Shadekitty> I've got an older dell that I had to actually turn off stuff in bios rather than the OS to stop putting the laptop to sleep when the lid shut.
[08:02] <haracha> how do i modulate the brightness
[08:02] <haracha> i think a game set the brightness way too high
[08:03] <nunya> I'm trying to setup openvpn with wireless connection and I've followed the openvpn instructions to the letter but it keeps timing out and not working.
[08:03] <warm> Shadekitty, thanks, i'll try it out
[08:03] <Shadekitty> have you tried the blank screen setting rather than "do nothing"?
[08:03] <Shadekitty> a quick google shows that others have had the same problem in previous versions of ubuntu and have had the issue resolved changing the option..
[08:05] <Shadekitty> Seems to be a lot of Dell computers with the issue… happen to have a dell by chance?
[08:06] <warm> Shadekitty, no , there is no such an opting on my computer.
[08:08] <Shadekitty> Theres a lot of bugs reported similar to your issue… sorry I couldn't help. Try googling your specifics… if no one replies here
[08:08] <petergk> zg: comment out that line i think
[08:09] <warm> Shadekitty, that's ok, thank you, I searched, and led to an issue on ubuntu web, no common solution.
[08:09] <zg> i removed that line and it did nothing
[08:09] <skp1> !boot-repair
[08:09] <zg> also, I had an error with my installation
[08:10] <bnathan> Hi, will there be any problems if I update my linux kernel to the latest using ubuntu 12.10?
[08:11] <Shadekitty> @warm - maybe search for a fix editing /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[08:11] <zg> bnathan: from what version?
[08:12] <dr_willis> the latest kernel from kernel.org you mean? or what exactly
[08:12] <Shadekitty> or /etc/default/acpi-support
[08:13] <Kartagis> in cairo-dock, I've accidentally moved pidgin into firefox dock. how can I undo that?
[08:16] <bnathan> @dr_willis: yes, the latest kernel from kernel.org
[08:16] <bnathan> @dr_willis: I plan on using 3.7 or 3.8
[08:17] <skp1> dr_willis: are you familiar with zsync?
[08:18] <ogist> hello
[08:18] <ogist> should I get kubuntu or xubuntu for my old dell inspiron 1501?
[08:18] <ogist> ubuntu seems to run slow on it
[08:18] <dr_willis> skp1:  never used it.
[08:18] <bnathan> @ogist: use xubuntu
[08:18] <dr_willis> ogist:  lightest would be Lubuntu
[08:19] <ogist> k
[08:20] <infinity__> Just Curious I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 & using NFS, Which the system was working fine til lately, the NFS Server can't start due to portmap not starting to where I would have to ssh into server and start it manually, So I tried modifying /etc/init/portmap.conf and added start on runlevel [2345] or start-rpcbind. Has anyone ran into this problem before, Or is modifying that file the source of the probelm?
[08:20] <dr_willis> infinity__:  ubuntu dosent really use runlevles the same as other disrots do or did.
[08:21] <dr_willis> there may be some verbose options  to portmap to makeit log more error messages
[08:25] <ogist> ok
[08:30] <WanderingEnder> TIL: Launchpad supports export of ssh keys to ubuntu PCs.
[08:34] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! to mount at every reboot a smb share i can place a row in fstab to mount in /media/samba ? then i view also a dedicated icon next the fylesystem cdrom and usb key in automatic? or i must use another way to automount a samba share and make appears in /media (and in gnome panel menu)
[08:35] <leonardpop> hello! i am trying to get my 3g modem to work in ubuntu 12.10 64bit (installed from ubuntu minimal iso, gnome shell added). i get the error  "connection failed" "activation of network connection failed". can someone help me please?
[08:36] <WanderingEnder> leonardpop, more information required before you can be helped.
[08:36] <MoL0ToV> exist a possible to configure ubuntu to automagically place in /media all the smb shares of the local net? as usb sticks and cdrom...
[08:37] <JornStian> displaylink packages in 12.10?
[08:37] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  theres some fuse tools  that can scan/show shares   but im not sure how well it works these days
[08:37] <halo4> my compyter is broke
[08:37] <leonardpop> WanderingEnder: i have a digi.mobil 3g usb stick modem, i configured it according to a tutorial, i don't know what other info should i give you, i am not linux literate
[08:37] <kgs> leonardpop: correct me if I'm wrong, but most modems need some software to configure the connection. What model is it?
[08:37] <dr_willis> i cant even rember its name. smbfuse or fusesmb
[08:37] <JornStian> http://askubuntu.com/questions/203717/constant-green-screen-with-usb-to-dvi-adapter tells me to install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink, however, that package isn't availiable
[08:38] <halo4> it wont start
[08:39] <halo4> it turns on, but i cant log in to it
[08:39] <dr_willis> halo4:  tell i the channel what it does do exactly
[08:39] <bentinata> halo4, is it stuck in login screen?
[08:39] <leonardpop> kgs: it's a huawei modem i don't know how to tell what model is, i don't think it requires additional software, it is recognized by the system because i could start the wizard to configure it
[08:40] <halo4> when turn it on it goese some where else that not the log in screen
[08:40] <dr_willis> describe  where its going....
[08:40] <halo4> its a blach screen
[08:40] <voxcroix> halo4: do you mean cant login to ubuntu?
[08:40] <halo4> with white ords
[08:41] <halo4> no its a black screen with white words
[08:41] <dr_willis> and the words are.........
[08:41] <voxcroix> halo4: RAM problem?
[08:41] <halo4> whats ram problem
[08:41] <halo4> sorry for poor english
[08:42] <leonardpop> kgs: and a blue led is blinking on the modem
[08:42] <meet> getting no sound. how do i check whether sound card is installed?
[08:42] <halo4> it says ubuntu login, but its not he normal log in screen
[08:43] <ogist> I have a dell inspiron 1501 next to me and it has ubuntu installed. It seems to be unable to connect to the internet
[08:43] <ogist> I have it wired in and it keeps saying "disconnected from wired"
[08:43] <bentinata> halo4, screenshot?
[08:43] <voxcroix> halo4: haha..
[08:43] <bentinata> xD
[08:44] <halo4> ill try but it seems like its not all the way started up\
[08:44] <bentinata> halo4, can you go to console? press Alt+F2
[08:44] <voxcroix> halo4: the easy way is to reinstall ur ubuntu
[08:44] <osmrducks> can i burn a cd with a dvd rw?.... i just downloaded ubuntu and tryed running it with vbox and was not successful... so i would like to burn it to a disc and all i have is a dvd rw and cd's
[08:44] <halo4> alr f3 dose nothing
[08:44] <halo4> it wont boot
[08:44] <kgs> leonardpop: Here, read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695102 . The solution is to use this: http://www.sakis3g.org/ . Give it a try. Having never used one of these modems, I don't know how well it will work.
[08:44] <voxcroix> osmrducks: can
[08:45] <lunazeta> !list
[08:45] <halo4> i cant screenshot it wont paste i cant log on with out login screen
[08:45] <osmrducks> ok cool... but if i was to burn it to a dvd and try to run it would it work?
[08:46] <voxcroix> osmrducks: can, but you need a complate download
[08:46] <osmrducks> yeah i dled the 764mb file from ubunto.com
[08:46] <voxcroix> halo4: what version of distro you using?
[08:46] <halo4> 12 i beleve
[08:47] <dr_willis> halo4:    login:    is the  Console.
[08:47] <dr_willis> halo4:  so your system is booting and starting up.
[08:47] <halo4> im at the console
[08:47] <halo4> then
[08:47] <osmrducks> for some reason i can not get it to run off of vbox ... says something about a pag
[08:47] <dr_willis> login at the console using your username and password
[08:47] <halo4> but i been waiting and it is not starting
[08:47] <chamunks> is there a way that I can get sudo access to files on a ubuntu target using winscp?
[08:47] <dr_willis> chamunks:  not any way that i know of.
[08:48] <chamunks> poo
[08:48] <halo4> what username
[08:48] <halo4> i dont know it
[08:48] <dr_willis> chamunks:  you could ssh in, and  then change permissions or setup a share - if you give us details
[08:48] <kgs> leonardpop: There is another solution, although is not very practical, you can put the sim card into a phone that supports USB Tethering & use it to connect.
[08:48] <chamunks> could I give a user root access then allow that in ssh?
[08:48] <dr_willis> halo4:  we dont know it either.. its the one you gave when you instgalled
[08:48] <dr_willis> chamunks:  direct logging in as root is disabled
[08:48] <chamunks> dr_willis, what sort of details do you need?
[08:49] <halo4> ok i did it and its still black secreend
[08:49] <chamunks> I mainly just want to edit apache configs via ssh
[08:49] <dr_willis> chamunks:  what are you trying to do that you need winscp to get in as root
[08:49] <chamunks> I need to set up virtual hosts
[08:49] <hexstatik> is it easy to install ubuntu on mac book pro(intel i7)?
[08:49] <dr_willis> chamunks:  ssh in, use a console editor and the shell to set things up..
[08:49] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: ssh in, sudo nano /etc7apache2/foo, done
[08:49] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: why would you use winscp to edit config-files?
[08:49] <chamunks> I could nano i was just hoping to use notepad ++
[08:49] <dr_willis> chamunks:  scp the files to the users account, then ssh in and move them where they need to go perhaps]
[08:50] <dr_willis> using windows text editors to edit linux config files - is not a good idea
[08:50] <chamunks> I was hoping for something a tad more elegant than moving files back n forth multiple times per save.
[08:50] <halo4> :.(
[08:50] <somsip> chamunks: if you're going to be doing any amount of admin work on a server, persevere with learning an editor that runs on the server
[08:50] <osmrducks> it says i am missing a pae kernel
[08:50] <osmrducks> ?
[08:50] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, I should have highlighted
[08:50] <dr_willis> you could use X forwarding feature of SSH to have the linux text editor show on the windows desktop also
[08:50] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: make sure you keep the unix lineendings of the config-files when you edit those in non-unix-systems.
[08:50] <chamunks> somsip, I know nano fine I just was hoping to use notepad++
[08:50] <halo4> just use vim
[08:51] <somsip> chamunks: like you said, that would be inelegant
[08:51] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, notepad++ usually takes care of configs pretty well its up there in funcionality with gedit
[08:51] <chamunks> I could just edit file permissions
[08:51] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: as vim does, so go the ssh way :)
[08:51] <halo4> so i cant fix my pc can i?
[08:51] <chamunks> I was mainly wondering if there was a good way to get sudo access.
[08:51] <osmrducks> ne other suggestions of linux other than ubuntu? and where to get them>
[08:52] <osmrducks> for free dl?
[08:52] <hexstatik> does anyone know how to change the location for notifications in 12.10> I have a dual monitor setup and the notifications popup on the monitor to the right in the bottom corner so its inconveniet to look each time
[08:52] <hexstatik> ?
[08:52] <halo4> slackware
[08:52] <dr_willis> halo4:  how do you not know your user name?
[08:52] <chamunks> i just like nano for it keeps me well spoonfed with showing me the shortcuts.
[08:52] <halo4> i did the username
[08:52] <halo4> and my password
[08:52] <somsip> chamunks: then open the file in sudo nano, and copy past from notepad++
[08:52] <halo4> and its still at a black screen
[08:52] <dr_willis> halo4:  so you logged in?
[08:52] <defekt> osmrducks: distrowatch
[08:53] <halo4> no, the screen changed
[08:53] <chamunks> somsip, heh I suppose that could work sortof
[08:53] <dr_willis> changed how....
[08:53] <halo4> its still not working
[08:53] <chamunks> I
[08:53] <halo4> it has my pc name
[08:53] <osmrducks> defekt: if it wont load with vbox... will it load from disc?
[08:53] <halo4> and username
[08:53] <somsip> chamunks: not much more elegant, and I have no idea if you SSH client will support nice copy-paste
[08:53] <dr_willis> halo4:  so the answer is YES>. you have logged in..
[08:53] <halo4> i dont understand
[08:53] <chamunks> I'll add my main user to the group that is in the permissions list for the apache configs i suppose would work.
[08:54] <chamunks> I just wanted full system write access.
[08:54] <bentinata> halo4, did it show like "username@compname:"?
[08:54] <somsip> !root | chamunks
[08:54] <halo4> thats what its doing
[08:54] <halo4> but i still cant log in
[08:54] <bentinata> you just logged in
[08:54] <ogist> hmm
[08:54] <somsip> chamunks: ditto for giving too many rights for any user
[08:54] <defekt> osmrducks: it's a website of linux distributions
[08:54] <bentinata> but not starting the XServer
[08:54] <halo4> im not dumb i know when i loged i
[08:54] <halo4> n
[08:55] <chamunks> somsip :P I know about sudo i've been with ubuntu for quite some time I just wish I could find a way to edit these files easier when im forced to use a windows environment.
[08:55] <bentinata> halo4, try type startx
[08:55] <somsip> chamunks: pick any of the 3 or 4 solutions already given <shrugs>
[08:55] <bentinata> halo4, "sudo startx", sorry
[08:55] <chamunks> my girlfriend likes playing games with me so I have to stick with windows for the games we play :(
[08:55] <dr_willis> no need to use sudo with startx
[08:55] <halo4> hmm
[08:55] <bentinata> dr_willis, thanks
[08:56] <chamunks> somsip, i'm satisfied with the response that essentially my solution wont work and that there are other options :)
[08:56] <halo4> this is command prompt?
[08:56] <chamunks> thanks for the attention to the matter all.
[08:56] <somsip> chamunks: colinux, cygnix, wubi, dual-boot, ubuntu only. That was my way
[08:56] <osmrducks> defekt: right but i just dled ubuntu and tryed to run it with vbox and it said i needed a pae kernel?... will it say the same thing if i burnt it to a disc and tryed to run it?
[08:56] <dr_willis> halo4:  you are at the bash shell.. yes
[08:56] <bentinata> halo4, that is shell
[08:56] <halo4> whats shell
[08:56] <osmrducks> or maybe i am not using vbox correctly
[08:56] <halo4> and whats bash
[08:56] <chamunks> somsip, I have a ssd with ubuntustudio and a hdd with windows 7 and I swap the sata cables I hate dualbooting.
[08:56] <halo4> new to unix
[08:56] <dr_willis> halo4:  you want to go spend an hr or 2 reading up on using bash  if you want to learn the basics
[08:56] <chamunks> windows breaks mbr's and I hate fixing grub
[08:56] <bentinata> halo4, it's like, command prompt on windows, but running on background
[08:57] <somsip> chamunks: sounds inelegant. Anyway, it's all up to you
 MoL0ToV:  theres some fuse tools  that can scan/show shares   but im not sure how well it works these days
[08:57] <chamunks> its not pretty but its easier than dualbooting problems and she only visits occasionally.
[08:57] <halo4> so that means the interface is broken yes?
[08:57] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, what do you mean?
[08:57] <defekt> osmrducks: 2nd statement I'de say. What arch are you trying to install on vbox x86 or x64
[08:57] <bentinata> halo4, that what I want to say -__-
[08:57] <bentinata> halo4, you are logged in
[08:58] <bentinata> halo4, but without the xserver
[08:58] <halo4> but its not the same
[08:58] <osmrducks> umm... not quite sure i guess =/
[08:58] <chamunks> somsip, I just find whenever windows breaks I wind up leaving it forever if i do a dualboot if i do it this way im much less attatched to the filestructure so i just blow away wineblows and life goes on.
[08:58] <defekt> !gdm | halo4
[08:58] <osmrducks> im using win7 64bit
[08:58] <halo4> how to fix problem
[08:58] <dr_willis> halo4:  you were asked to run 'startx' to see if it works
[08:58] <bentinata> halo4, did the GUI show up?
[08:58] <halo4> negitory sir
[08:58] <chamunks> somsip, thanks have a good one :)
[08:59] <halo4> it still says not valid
[08:59] <bentinata> halo4, what it say?
[08:59]  * wdp doesn't know why people assume halo4 would be logged in correctly.
[08:59] <somsip> chamunks: np
[08:59] <dr_willis> halo4:  be more verbose in what its saying.. we are not mind readers'
[08:59] <ogist> halo4: what did you do
[08:59] <ogist> did you install the wrong video drivers?
[08:59] <halo4> it say not vaid command
[08:59] <defekt> osmrducks: download the ubuntu i386 iso file and use that to istall your vm
[08:59] <halo4> so this is command prompt like windows
[08:59] <hexstatik> does anyone know how to change the location for notifications in 12.10> I have a dual monitor setup and the notifications popup on the monitor to the right in the bottom corner so its inconveniet to look each time
[09:00] <dr_willis> halo4:  so what command did you type  exactly?
[09:00] <halo4> startx
[09:00] <halo4> starx sudo
[09:00] <ogist> hextstatik: you are coming along fast :)
[09:00] <ogist> halo4: try Xorg
[09:00] <osmrducks> ok i dled the 32bit version... so i need to dl the 64bit version?
[09:00] <halo4> can i use login command
[09:00] <TakeItEZ> sounds like halo4 was kicked into grub-shell
[09:01] <ogist> yeah
[09:01] <dr_willis> halo4:  how about - > running the 'whoami' command and see what it says...
[09:01] <dr_willis> he said he had a LOGIN: prompt earlier
[09:01] <dr_willis> of coruse he also said his pc was not starting....
[09:01] <ogist> :(
[09:01] <halo4> it says my username and computername
[09:01] <halo4> but i cant log in
[09:01] <dr_willis> you are logged in
[09:02] <dr_willis> we started that earlier
[09:02] <ogist> yeah
[09:02] <bentinata> you are
[09:02] <osmrducks> it only asks me to dl the 32 bit or 64 bit version defekt
[09:02] <halo4> i am quite furstuated
[09:02] <defekt> osmrducks: 32 bit (aka i386 X86)
[09:02] <ogist> halo4: did you mess it up?
[09:02] <ogist> i messed mine up the other day
[09:02] <ogist> had to reinstall it all
[09:02] <halo4> i broked my pc
[09:03] <ogist> i did that the other day
[09:03] <ogist> i installed the wrong video driver
[09:03] <krzkrz> i accidentally added this ppa:  http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources
[09:03] <osmrducks> ok... that is the one i have dled
[09:03] <dr_willis> halo4:  so you used the command 'startx'    exactly as typed?  no sudo. all lower case...
[09:03] <halo4> it has a virus mabie
[09:03] <krzkrz> how do i remove it?
[09:03] <t0bis> hi there
[09:03] <halo4> yesh i did no lowercase
[09:03] <bentinata> halo4, what message it returned?
[09:03] <krzkrz> sudo apt-get update returs 404 not found for that package source
[09:04] <halo4> not valid
[09:04] <defekt> osmrducks: you might have to verify the file you have already downlaoded
[09:04] <dr_willis> halo4:  lets try comthing more complex..    try 'sudo service lightdm start'
[09:04] <defekt> !md5 | osmrducks
[09:04] <halo4> how do i do the service light start?
[09:04] <B0101> hi, when I type apt-get update on ubuntu 12.04, i keep getting this:  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems how do I solve this?
[09:04] <ogist> i didn't afraid of linux and now it works like a charm
[09:04] <dr_willis> halo4:  lets try comthing more complex..    try 'sudo service lightdm start'  TYPE whstgs Between the  quotes
[09:05] <halo4> oh
[09:05] <ogist> there is a sweet game or two
[09:05] <lunazeta> irc://FreeBoaRd.DayOnIRC.Uk.To/cm-plus
[09:05] <dr_willis> 'sudo service lightdm start'
[09:05] <osmrducks> ok will try real quick
[09:05] <ogist> i wish you luck to get it fixed
[09:05] <ogist> i have a penguin running around on my dock
[09:05] <halo4> ok
[09:05] <defekt> ogist: feed it
[09:06] <ogist> how
[09:06] <halo4> its not working still
[09:06] <dr_willis> again... tell us what it does.. not 'its not working;
[09:06] <bentinata> dr_willis get mad, hehe
[09:07] <halo4> "sudo" is not valid command prompt
[09:07] <ogist> sudo
[09:07] <ogist> just type su then
[09:07] <dr_willis> how about outpout of this command --> 'echo $PATH'
[09:07] <halo4> me type su
[09:07] <ogist> no
[09:07] <ogist> do what he says, im just a noob
[09:07] <krzkrz> dr_willis, what irc clien are you using?
[09:07] <defekt> echo $SHELL
[09:08] <dr_willis> krzkrz:  andchat, going via ZNC into my home raspberry pi.
[09:08] <ogist> i haven't linuxed as long as the rest
[09:08] <halo4> is not valid command
[09:08] <ogist> but i do have a quad-core 3.4ghz with 8 gigabyte of ram
[09:08] <ogist> 64-bit here
[09:09] <ogist> i coulda ran windows xp forever
[09:09] <mystblade9> Hi. I have here a USB stick that is acting rather strangely. I altered it with unetbootin, and would now like to undo it. XFCE automounts the drive, but it doesn't show up in /dev als /dev/sdc1, only as /dev/sdc. If I run fdisk on it, it says "this doesn't look like a partition table", and gparted doesn't even detect it. How do I restore my USB stick to pure fat32?
[09:09] <halo4> i think i have 16 gigabites of ram
[09:09] <ogist> that is very good halo4
[09:09] <halo4> prossessor
[09:09] <ogist> why dont ya just reinstall ubuntu
[09:09] <ogist> :)
[09:10] <osmrducks> defekt: it says check sums r diff... so what do i do?
[09:10] <halo4> 16 gigabite prossessor is good
[09:10] <bentinata> It's feel good when you repair, without reinstall
[09:10] <defekt> mystblade9: your USB is blank with no partions you need to format it.
[09:10] <dr_willis> halo4:   you typed without quotes the command        echo $SHELL    and  echo $PATH and it said invalid command?
[09:10] <dr_willis> both times
[09:10] <halo4> yes sir
[09:11] <TakeItEZ> halo4: type "help", what is the first line you get
[09:11] <halo4> yes it dose nothing i cant login to the thing
[09:11] <defekt> osmrducks: redowload ubuntu, the version you have is currupted
[09:11] <dr_willis> halo4:  you ARE logged in
[09:11] <halo4> but..
[09:11] <mystblade9> defekt: Yes, but how? There's no /dev/sdc1, and this is the output fdisk gives me: http://pastie.org/private/j9z3lhspvnvsbdhzjutjbq
[09:11] <dr_willis> but what.. you keepo confuseing the issue
[09:11] <krzkrz> how do i remove this repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources
[09:11] <bentinata> dr_willis become more mad, hehe
[09:11] <halo4> im not at the same time
[09:11] <halo4> confused :/
[09:12] <dr_willis> we said earlier you are logged into the shell
[09:12] <halo4> what is the shell mean
[09:12] <dr_willis> now either you are totally messing up every command. or you got a very very badly broken system
[09:12] <ogist> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <ogist> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[09:12] <halo4> so i have a virus
[09:13] <dr_willis> halo4:  no onme has mentioned a virus
[09:13] <dr_willis> and last i looked.. there are no linux  viruses out in the wild.
[09:13] <bentinata> Is virus is really exist on Linux?
[09:13] <ogist> krzkrz: try this first sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[09:13] <halo4> i think it maebe a virus on my pc
[09:13] <mrosmrducks> defekt: the check sums r diff... ne suggestions?
[09:13] <eutheria> can you still get the alternative install cd for 12.10?
[09:13] <ogist> linux is like a mac
[09:13] <dr_willis> halo4:  if you think so.. safest thing is to reinstall..
[09:14] <defekt> mystblade9: sorry can't check pastbin atm. did you try 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc'
[09:14] <TakeItEZ> eutheria: no, they stopped the alternate-cd, use mini.iso or desktop
[09:14] <halo4> i dont know anything about that kind of thing
[09:14] <dr_willis> i  am very confident you dont have a virus on a linux install
[09:14] <defekt> mrosmrducks: redowload ubuntu, the version you have is currupted
[09:14] <ogist> hey
[09:14] <eutheria> TakeItEZ, can you still create an encrypted partition using ?mini?
[09:14] <ogist> krzkrz
[09:15] <krzkrz> ogist, i dont see  http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources anywhere
[09:15] <TakeItEZ> eutheria: i don't know
[09:15] <ogist> krzkrz: do this ->   gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:15] <ogist> delete the line of code that has it
[09:15] <mrosmrducks> ok will try
[09:15] <ogist> and then type sudo apt-get update
[09:15] <mystblade9> defekt:  FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 1: Partition begins after end-of-disk
[09:17] <WanderingEnder> Anyone know which is less taxing on system resources? lubuntu or xubuntu. Thinking of deploying either on a 1 core 2 GB Azure VM.
[09:17] <ogist> WanderingEnder, lubuntu is
[09:17] <WanderingEnder> ty
[09:17] <ogist> but you can probably rub ubuntu on it
[09:17] <defekt> mystblade9: are you getting any dmesg errors when you plug the stick in?
[09:17] <ogist> and switch to fxce
[09:18] <chamunks> I have domainA.com domainB.com and domainC.com and they are all being routed through cloudflare at my ULAMP and I am reading mention of needing to edit the hosts file from this apache documentation http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[09:18] <ogist> you can run ubuntu and switch out unity with XFCE runs much faster and it’s interface stays out of your way allowing you more screen real estate for activities like programming and browsing.
[09:18] <chamunks> How would I accomplish this hosts file edit.
[09:18] <chamunks> ./etc/hosts yes?
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: /etc/hosts, no leading .
[09:18] <chamunks> but is there some kind of syntax that I need to use to point things in different direction
[09:19] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, yes i just added the leading . so irc didnt catch it as a cmd
[09:19] <dr_willis> chamunks:  full paths dont start with a ./ that woul d be a relative path ;)
[09:19] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: use a space, its not misleading
[09:19] <blue112> Hello here.
[09:19] <dr_willis>           // i just put spaces here
[09:19] <tsimpson> chamunks: you don't need to edit /etc/hosts for apache, only if you want to test locally without DNS
[09:19] <eutheria> TakeItEZ, sorry i am being stupid, where do you get mini .iso from?
[09:20] <TakeItEZ> !mini | eutheria
[09:20] <chamunks> well anyways the leading . aside :P
[09:20] <blue112> Since last reboot, gnome-shell won't launch anymore, it segfault just after login. What can I do to fix that ? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 x64.
[09:20] <bentinata> Hello blue112
[09:20] <eutheria> thank you TakeItEZ :)
[09:20] <mystblade9> defekt: Nevermind, found a solution. Am now overwriting the drive with zeros.
[09:20] <halo4> can anyone help me with my shell
[09:20] <bentinata> halo4, reinstall
[09:20] <chamunks> tsimpson, thanks that makes sense well I dont really see any specific benefits of testing locally really afaik
[09:20] <Kartagis> in cairo-dock, I've accidentally moved pidgin into firefox dock. how can I undo that?
[09:20] <secretbutter> halo4 no its broken
[09:21] <eutheria> next question, so deja-dup created me a very broken backup
[09:21] <eutheria> i want something that isn't going to create me a broken backup
[09:21] <dr_willis> halo4:  does       cd /bin/                seem to work or does it give an error?
[09:21] <halo4> if i reinstal i might lose my data
[09:21] <TakeItEZ> eutheria: rsnapshot is one tool
[09:21] <dr_willis> halo4:  you can use a live cd to access the data and back stuff up
[09:21] <bentinata> you can backup using console
[09:21] <hexstatik> is it easy to install ubuntu on mac book pro(intel i7)?
[09:22] <eutheria> TakeItEZ, command line?
[09:22] <blue112> Anyone ?
[09:22] <secretbutter> halo4 no you cant, its lost. forever
[09:22] <hexstatik> are there all the drivers available or any other issues?
[09:22] <TakeItEZ> eutheria: sure
[09:22] <bentinata> dr_willis suggestion is the easiest way
[09:22] <halo4> all my musics
[09:22] <dr_willis> halo4:  does       cd /bin/                seem to work or does it give an error?
[09:22] <chamunks> tsimpson, what would a line for the hosts file look like for domainA.com anyways?
[09:22] <eutheria> i was really after something like deja-dup
[09:22] <krzkrz> ogist, its not there repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources
[09:22] <bentinata> eutheria, u1
[09:22] <eutheria> maybe something that can do a network backup
[09:23] <eutheria> u1?
[09:23] <bentinata> ubuntu one
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: 127.0.1.1 domaina.com
[09:23] <chamunks> ok fair enough thanks TakeItEZ
[09:23] <eutheria> sadly i can't use ubuntu one,
[09:23] <halo4> it still says not valid command or oporateve file
[09:23] <tsimpson> chamunks: you'd just add domainA.com to the end of the existing line starting with 127.0.0.1, eg: "127.0.0.1 localhost domainA.com domainB.com domainC.com"
[09:24] <dr_willis> halo4:  so the command 'cd' even fails?        just cd, no quotes or anything special
[09:24] <bentinata> halo4, did you have camera?
[09:24] <blue112> Anyone knows how can I start a terminal to try debug my problem with gnome-shell crashed ?
[09:24] <eutheria> maybe i can if i could put an encrypted blob
[09:24] <chamunks> tsimpson, its wierd because the hosts file generated has a separate line for localhost and the machine name
[09:24] <halo4> what is batch
[09:24] <bentinata> halo4, take a picture of your monitor, and give it here
[09:24] <chamunks> http://puu.sh/1MlR0
[09:24] <chamunks> tsimpson, ^
[09:25] <secretbutter> halo4 you are screwed lol
[09:25] <halo4> i havent got a camera handy
[09:25] <bentinata> secretbutter, it's not funny
[09:26] <bentinata> halo4, "help"
[09:26] <tsimpson> chamunks: you can give different domains different loopback IPs in the 127.0.0.0/8 range, so they can seem to have unique IPs
[09:26] <halo4> i need help
[09:26] <bentinata> halo4, try "help"
[09:26] <halo4> type it
[09:26] <bentinata> halo4, yes
[09:26] <dr_willis> cd is a bash  and sh built in command i thought.. if its failing hes got some deep issues
[09:27] <chamunks> tsimpson, I didnt notice there was a difference heh sorry well thats good and interesting then I can take the different IP's and then route those in the apache section of this task.
[09:27] <halo4> is not valid
[09:27] <bentinata> very deep, dude
[09:27] <chamunks> tsimpson, if im having trouble with routing i suppose :S
[09:27] <blue112> Since last reboot, gnome-shell won't launch anymore, it segfault just after login. What can I do to fix that ? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 x64.
[09:27] <defekt> no busybox o.O
[09:27] <halo4> help is not a valid command or oporatevable batch file
[09:27] <bentinata> halo4, try restarting, it usually works :)
[09:28] <halo4> i did re start my pc
[09:28] <tsimpson> "not a valid command or batch file" seems very much like the error you get from cmd.exe on windows
[09:28] <halo4> i cant login, and by log in i mean use it after i log in
[09:28] <dr_willis> halo4:  so what does your prompt look like exactly?     yoruusername@yourcomputername:       ?
[09:28] <halo4> no not exactly
[09:29] <halo4> but kinda prompt
[09:29] <vtghii> hi, Gnome shell is cp hog with FGLRX installed, how to fix this problem, I have an ati card, enough ram and processor, it's only with fglrx that GS use 50%cpu
[09:29] <dr_willis> halo4:  so what does your prompt look like exactly?
[09:29] <halo4> hold on
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> halo4: could you please be even more vague?
[09:29] <bentinata> bentinata@bentinata-ThinkPad-X60s:
[09:29] <halo4> computername/username>
[09:29] <defekt> !ati | vtghii
[09:30] <odyssey4me> hi everyone - how does one arrange for an updated package, or a backport of an updated package from Quantal to Precise?
[09:30] <vtghii> ty for answer, I'll check links and tell u if that solved my problem!
[09:30] <halo4> and a flashing underscore
[09:30] <blue112> Since last reboot, gnome-shell won't launch anymore, it segfault just after login. What can I do to fix that ? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 x64.
[09:30] <tsimpson> odyssey4me: you file a bug on launchpad requesting the backport
[09:30] <krzkrz> i get http://pastie.org/5666815 every time i do sudo apt-get update
[09:30] <dr_willis> halo4:  does  'dir' give any output?
[09:31] <halo4> hey its valid one
[09:31] <odyssey4me> thx tsimpson
[09:31] <bentinata> blue112, what did show to your screen?
[09:31] <dr_willis> and  the output  is?
[09:31] <halo4> its a lot of stuff
[09:31] <halo4> all my files
[09:31] <vtghii> I have installed fglrx drivers via jockey succesfully, then gnome shell is cpu hog, like 50%, the more I use it the more it's cpu hog, don'kt know what to do with the link :(
[09:31] <blue112> bentinata, IRC shows (XChat), because I launch it at startup
[09:32] <bentinata> dr_willis, halo4 is kicked to grub-shell
[09:32] <blue112> bentinata, it has no window decoration. Nothing else shows.
[09:32] <blue112> Oh, yeah, apport shows two few reboot before, said gnome-shell segfaults.
[09:32] <dr_willis> bentinata:  he said he was at LOGIN: earlier.. and that dosent look like a grub prompt to me
[09:32] <krzkrz> anyone?
[09:33] <bentinata> dr_willis, halo4 is forced to grub-shell
[09:33] <dr_willis> bentinata:  im thinking hes at the windows shell ;)
[09:33] <blue112> krzkrz, you got a ppa which is either not compatible with your distribution, or either dead. You should remove it.
[09:33] <halo4> it says contacts desktop documents downloas musics roms potos porn scriipts searches videos
[09:33] <krzkrz> blue112, how do i remove it
[09:33] <blue112> krzkrz, you can find its file at /etc/apt/source.list.d/
[09:33] <blue112> You just have to remove it.
[09:34] <TakeItEZ> i smell a troll
[09:34]  * dr_willis is about ready to clock out from work also.
[09:34] <vtghii> what is the version of fglrx on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:34] <halo4> so my files are not gone
[09:34] <krzkrz> blue112, then just do an rm?
[09:35] <halo4> i just cant log in
[09:35] <blue112> krzkrz, yep, just rm the problematic file in that folder, and apt shouldn't make any noise anymore.
[09:35] <bentinata> blue112, can you open terminal?
[09:35] <blue112> bentinata, I don't think so. I can go to tty1, but I can't have a virtual terminal.
[09:35] <blue112> I can open firefox with clicking a link on this channel :p
[09:36] <poq> Is any software to change memory values for ubuntu such ArtMoney and CheatEngine under win?
[09:36] <krzkrz> thanks blue112
[09:36] <halo4> so i keep my files with re install
[09:36] <halo4> live dise
[09:36] <MoL0ToV> exist a possible to configure ubuntu to automagically place in /media all the smb shares of the local net? as usb sticks and cdrom...
[09:36] <bentinata> halo4, live disc first, then reinstall
[09:37] <blue112> poq, you can access memory at /dev/memory. There's a high probability you crash everything if you don't know what you're doing, though.
[09:37] <halo4> how long should it take
[09:37] <bentinata> blue112, how can you open firefox with xchat? cool!
[09:37] <kepler> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/memory  !!
[09:37] <dr_willis> halo4:  how do we know how many files you have...
[09:37] <blue112> bentinata, yeah but it won't handle focus anymore, so I have to close firefox to go back to xchat :/
[09:38] <halo4> its mostly music
[09:38] <kepler> blue112, you can try to alt+click and move windows around
[09:38] <dr_willis> halo4:  it takes as long as it takes... we dont know how many GB of files you have..
[09:38] <halo4> i have a 16 gb prossesor
[09:38] <bentinata> blue112, "gnome-shell replace"
[09:39] <TakeItEZ> you don't halo4
[09:39] <blue112> kepler, it doesn't work. I can move window by handling then at the menu bar. But focus isn't working, I won't be able to speak here if firefox is open
[09:39] <halo4> it says so in the sticer
[09:39]  * dr_willis has a 8core toaster oven
[09:39] <blue112> bentinata, it complains about not being able to open X11 display (even with export DISPLAY=:0)
[09:39] <halo4> sticker
[09:39] <dr_willis> halo4:  then you need glasses and to read closer.
[09:39] <fishcooker> im on 12.04 where is the control panel?
[09:40] <fishcooker> i can't find .. im used to 10.04
[09:40] <halo4> how do you know what kind of prossesor i have?
[09:41] <bentinata> fishcooker, it's on the right-top
[09:41] <ph1rmw4r3> d
[09:42] <radium> hlw
[09:42] <vtghii> hi, Gnome shell is cp hog with FGLRX installed, how to fix this problem, I have an ati card, enough ram and processor, it's only with fglrx that GS use 50%cpu
[09:42] <blue112> vtghii, if anything graphic is using CPU, your graphic acceleration may be not working.
[09:43] <vtghii> blue112, ty for answer, how to chech if graphic acceleration is workinG?
[09:43] <radium> i'm getting sick of slow speed , please someone guide me if it is a gud idea to use google dns or open dns? i'm  using ubuntu 12.04
[09:43] <blue112> vtghii, I'm not sure, with an ATI card, I'm using an Nvidia.
[09:43] <kepler> vtghii, try sudo amdcccle
[09:43] <m3pow> hello !
[09:43] <WanderingEnder> !hi | m3pow
[09:44] <m3pow> hello !
[09:44] <kepler> it should pop open the control panel for the ati card
[09:44] <blue112> radium, sure, you can use google dns by going into the NetworkManager, and replace the DNS line with 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[09:44] <dr_willis> radium:  a great many people use both
[09:44] <ph1rmw4r3> okay
[09:44] <m3pow> is there any reason why disk access in Ubuntu 12.10 is that slow. I am running it on an HDX 18
[09:44] <vtghii> kepler, I did it, I have amd conotrol center open
[09:44] <radium> dr_willis: both at same time? rite?
[09:44] <m3pow> i've used 12.04 before and there things seemed to be OK. everything was fast
[09:44] <ph1rmw4r3> well im going to go to bed while i reinstall ubuntu
[09:44] <ph1rmw4r3> ill talk to you later dr willis
[09:44] <dr_willis> radium:  you could if you wanted  i guess
[09:44] <blue112> Since last reboot, gnome-shell won't launch anymore, it segfault just after login. What can I do to fix that ? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 x64.
[09:44] <kepler> if you pop on information, does it populate correctly?
[09:45] <dr_willis> i dont see much point in using opendns if you are using googles
[09:45] <radium> Blue112: thanks, but i know that  , my main ques is that . is it really fast to use open dns?
[09:45] <vedarthk> I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 on Lenevo U410 which has Nvidia Graphics card, how do I install nvidia drivers ?
[09:45] <m3pow> it is pretty annoying to have a slow experience in Ubuntu
[09:45] <ogist> I like this linux
[09:45] <ph1rmw4r3> goodnight dr_willis
[09:46] <ogist> it is like a macbook
[09:46] <blue112> radium, what is slow exactly ? Is your DNS resolution is slow ?
[09:46] <radium> and one more ques.. how to scroll up .. bcoz there is no scroll bar.. i'm using xchat
[09:46] <radium> blue112: yeah .. very slow
[09:46] <ogist> page up
[09:46] <blue112> radium, then yes, it should speed things up.
[09:46] <radium> local isp isn't really that fast as i thought
[09:46] <ogist> open dns?
[09:46] <radium> ogist thanks :)
[09:46] <blue112> radium, you can try other dns resolution speed by using host command
[09:47] <blue112> host host_to_resolve dns_to_use
[09:47] <radium> blue112: lemme try this .  btw  thanks :)
[09:47] <blue112> No problem.
[09:48] <blue112> Any clue about my gnome-shell bug ?
[09:48] <blue112> [or any channel I can ask for help ?]
[09:48] <radium> blue112?  what kinda bug?
[09:48] <blue112> Since last reboot, gnome-shell won't launch anymore, it segfault just after login.
[09:49] <radium> did u check ur bash profile?
[09:49] <blue112> what about it ?
[09:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> blue112. does your bug make your system.freeze shirtly after booting?
[09:50] <blue112> MonkWitDaFunk, nop, it's not freezing, I'm currently using it. XChat autostarts after startup. It's just I have no window decorator and no gnome-shell top-bar.
[09:50] <radium> for any bad alias? or it maybe corrupted ..any bad configuration
[09:51] <vedarthk> hi, I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 on Lenevo U410 which has Nvidia Graphics card, how do I install nvidia drivers ?
[09:51] <blue112> radium, hm, I haven't changed anything in it since last reboot, unfortunately.
[09:51] <blue112> vedarthk, you can download them on the NVidia website, directly.
[09:51] <dr_willis> vedarthk:  package name is  nvidia-current in the repos
[09:51] <blue112> Or use the repository, yes.
[09:51] <dr_willis> vedarthk:  dont use the ones from the nvidia site if you can avoid it
[09:51] <radium> blue112: no clue sir
[09:51] <blue112> mkay
[09:52] <vedarthk> dr_willis thank you
[09:52] <vedarthk> blue112 thank you
[09:52] <blue112> ¬_¬
[09:53] <MonkWitDaFunk> with vedarthk's issue, would doing a clean install get his/her drivers?
[09:53] <blue112> !nvidia | blue112
[09:53] <svneo> hi, i'm getting WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/user/.cache/keyring-GT4vfX/pkcs11: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type  every time i "svn up"; how can i solve that?
[09:53] <dr_willis> dident even see them sttate an issue, just asked how to install the nvida drivers
[09:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> righy
[09:54] <dr_willis> svneo:  its just a warning.. are you saying the command is failing?
[09:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> right*
[09:55] <MonkWitDaFunk> eit
[09:55] <svneo> dr_willis: no it's working fine
[09:55] <svneo> dr_willis: but if possible i'd like to avoid the warning
[09:55] <MonkWitDaFunk> sorry about my text ppl
[09:56] <radium> could someone please tell me where to find host file? in ubuntu 12.04?
[09:56] <TakeItEZ> radium:  /etc/hosts
[09:56] <NuSuey> is there a way to be notified when the new ati drivers are out? no rss/newsletter?articles somewhere?
[09:56] <radium> TakeItEZ : thank you :)
[09:56] <chamunks> Ive got an error restarting apache http://puu.sh/1MmaW make_sock:could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 which strikes me as an odd thing to say
[09:57] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: sudo lsof -i :80                  anything listening/blocking the port?
[09:57] <chamunks> apparently i needed to remember to sudo but now im getting could not
[09:57] <JornStian> http://lino.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/xserver-xorg-video-displaylink <--- Latest version:	*DELETED*
[09:57] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, I fudged a silly and didnt sudo
[09:58] <JornStian> how can I figure out why the package have been dropped?
[09:58] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, http://puu.sh/1MmbN this is the echo
[10:00] <TomyLaptop> can "kdesudo -u otheruser /home/otheruser/one_of_his_programs" harm me?
[10:02] <Grievre> Hey um... so the ubuntu article on creating bootable USB sticks doesn't tell you how to do it from non-ubuntu distributions
[10:02] <Grievre> only ubuntu, windows and mac os
[10:04] <extropy> so I moved a boot disk from one computer to another, didn't work, moved it back to original, now it won't boot
[10:04] <dr_willis> hmm,, seems displaylink monitors (and the company)  have a bit of a history with  poor linux support
[10:05] <extropy> any particular reason why ubuntu installation CDs don't have some sort of "repair boot manager" option?
[10:05] <dr_willis> Grievre:  the pendrivelinux site should have tools for several disrtos... or you can 'dd' the iso file to the  usb from most any linux disrto
[10:05] <Grievre> dr_willis: Okay, does that work?
[10:05] <extropy> serious, what's with all this fancy schmancy "EUFI" crap? seems to be just getting in my way. What can't I just set a damn boot flag and be done with it?
[10:06] <dr_willis> extropy:  there is a boot-repair livce cd you can get.  its 32 and 64bit compatiable
[10:06] <dr_willis> Grievre:  dd? should work its the simpleist way
[10:06] <extropy> dr_willis I shouldn't be needing to repair anything to begin with.
[10:06] <TakeItEZ> Grievre: cat/dd works, if the iso is an hybrid-iso (as most actual linux-iso are)
[10:06] <JornStian> dr_willis: does that mean that canonical dropped the package because it was unstable?
[10:06] <dr_willis> extropy:  you asked a question. i answered... so whatever
[10:06] <Grievre> okay but are the ubuntu ISOs like that
[10:06] <extropy> I never did anything (intentionally) to invalidate my SSD's boot-worthiness
[10:07] <dr_willis> JornStian:  from what im reading at askubuntu.com theres a bit of a  history of poor support.
[10:07] <extropy> dr_willis: why should I need an entire LiveCD just to set a damn boot flag? who the hell decided Ubuntu should be so freaking complicated?
[10:07] <dr_willis> JornStian:  and i was wanting to get one of those things
[10:07] <dr_willis> extropy:   this is a support channel. not a ranting channel.
[10:08] <TakeItEZ> Grievre: they are
[10:08] <Grievre> extropy: What do you mean "why should I need an entire livecd just to set a boot flag", you need an OS to boot into before you can do anything
[10:08] <dr_willis> Grievre:  the ability to dd the iso  straight to flash  has only worked with the latest 2-3 releases of ubuntu i belive.
[10:08] <extropy> Grievre: Ubuntu's default livecd should be sufficient. I'm not suggesting, I'm insisting.
[10:08] <bentinata> anyone?
[10:09] <JornStian> dr_willis: well... for now you can hold that purchase.. it's not close to working :|
[10:09] <bentinata> someone notice me?
[10:09] <dr_willis> JornStian:  yep. was wanting one for my RaspberryPi
[10:09] <Grievre> extropy: oh you can't do it with the default livecd? I would have thought you should be able to
[10:09] <extropy> Grievre: seems like a no-brainer to me, just sayin'
[10:10] <Grievre> I'm unfamiliar with UEFI, what's the issue here?
[10:10] <TakeItEZ> extropy: why shouldn't you be able to set a boot-flag on a partition with the standard-live-cd?
[10:10] <dr_willis> You can install boot-repair with the live cd. (to ram)
[10:10] <dr_willis> you can set flags with cfdisk or parted i imagine
[10:10] <extropy> TakeItEZ: that is a great, questions: something something ext4
[10:10] <qwiksilver711_> anyone here familiar with getting 12.04 functional on an alienware m14x?
[10:11] <TakeItEZ> extropy: "man parted"
[10:11] <extropy> dr_willis: that would be the advice I'm looking for
[10:11] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, do you think I can define two ServerName's in sites-available/siteA like ServerName siteA.com then Servername www.siteA.com
[10:11] <chamunks> would that work?
[10:11] <TakeItEZ> chamunks: idk, i don't deal with apache
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | qwiksilver711_
[10:12] <chamunks> TakeItEZ, fair enough
[10:12] <Grievre> extropy: what error are you getting when you try to boot?
[10:12] <extropy> TakeItEZ: parted has nothing to do with it ... otherwise I wouldn't be her. if is was just a matter of setting a boot flag I'd be done
[10:12] <extropy> "Reboot and Select propert Boot device"
[10:13] <extropy> EFI, ext4 and swap partitions all seem to be in good shape, no idea why it won't freaking boot
[10:13] <TakeItEZ> extropy: 11:07 < extropy> dr_willis: why should I need an entire LiveCD just to set a damn boot flag?  so what do you really want to do? please give info and stop your pointless rants
[10:13] <Grievre> dr_willis: should I dd onto the drive or onto a partition on the drive?
[10:13] <dr_willis> Grievre:  the drive  always the drive
[10:13] <Grievre> extropy: is your BIOS configured right?
[10:13] <extropy> TakaItEZ: I'm over simplifying there. I *should* just be able to set a boot flag, problem solved. The fact is I can't.
[10:13] <dr_willis> Grievre:  and DONT get the wrong drive. ;)(
[10:14] <gsommer> I've created a patch for a dep package (paps) - I wouln't mind giving it back to the community (either as .patch, or as dep package)... I just can't figure out who to contact - and how to do this? :/
[10:15] <agsel> I disable some shortcuts from keyboard settings, but they still work
[10:15] <extropy> how about someone just brief me on what Ubuntu is doing these days for their bootmanager. I can tell somethings new.
[10:15] <guest16> IIRC the UEFI system partition (the boot partition) must be a FAT
[10:15] <guest16> not ext...
[10:16] <extropy> when did Ubuntu move to this UEFI thing? its somehow convinced itself that my JumpDrive is a bootable partition and nothing else
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> extropy  it didnt, it was forced to follow
[10:17] <dr_willis> computers are moveing to using UEFI
[10:17] <dr_willis> if i have a flash drive set up correctly ive noticed the bios shows it as a uefi disk
[10:17] <dr_willis> some times it shows it as both a uefi disk and a non uefi disk
[10:17] <dr_willis> and i could boot it either way
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> extropy  UEFI replaces BIOS, it has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[10:18] <extropy> dr_willis: mine seems to have taken over, asserting that it's USB Flash drive is my *only* boot partition.
[10:19] <extropy> guess I don't see how any of this stuff is necessary
[10:19] <chamunks> Do i need to run a2ensite every time I edit files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/?
[10:20] <extropy> Extensible Firmware: as in ... the world's slickest hardware backdoor?
[10:21] <dr_willis> its what exists.. so it really dosent matter
[10:21] <qwiksilver711_> does the iso download set up the dual boot loader on its own?
[10:21] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  what iso download?
[10:21] <extropy> why do I get the feeling like I have to boot from my disk to get my computer to boot from my disk?
[10:21] <qwiksilver711_> just the 12.04 one
[10:21] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  a normal install should set up grub to dual boot a  system
[10:21] <qwiksilver711_> i was going to install it in the morning
[10:22] <qwiksilver711_> as long as its not going to trash things
[10:22] <qwiksilver711_> i tried with 10.4 and it was rough for me
[10:22] <extropy> "oh hey, we *can* boot from your SSD ... we'll just do that by default from now on, sorry for the inconvenience. Any idea how it got like this to begin with?"
[10:22] <dijit> Hallo
[10:23] <qwiksilver711_> dr_willis thank you for the answer
[10:23] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  make backups
[10:23] <dr_willis> always have backups
[10:24] <qwiksilver711_> dr_willis: of course, already have the drive imaged to my nas
[10:24] <extropy> incidentally I have no use for a "boot repair" livecd seeing as how I don't have a cdrom, or any flash drives available not that I'm even going to bother assuming thats an option ...
[10:24] <dijit> Ok, I've googled extensively
[10:24] <extropy> this should really be a one-line thing I can do from Ubuntu's live cd "sudo fixmydisk" ...
[10:25] <dijit> so I'm hoping someone by chance sees this.
[10:25] <TakeItEZ> extropy: try switching your computer to bios-boot and stop your pointless rants here
[10:25] <dijit> I have a server (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
[10:25] <dijit> which will not boot.
[10:25] <dijit> it drops to busy box with the line "could not find /dev/mapper/<servername>-root
[10:26] <dijit> however, not only does the block device exist, it's mountable
[10:26] <dr_willis> dijit:  you ae using lvm? or raid?
[10:26] <dijit> both.
[10:26] <dijit> raid1 (hardware)
[10:26] <dijit> and lvm.
[10:26] <svneo> hi, i'm getting WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/user/.cache/keyring-GT4vfX/pkcs11: No such file or directory  every time i "svn up"; how can i solve this warning?
[10:27] <extropy> TakeItEZ: care to elaborate or should I just continue ranting instead?
[10:27] <TakeItEZ> extropy: what part you don't understand?
[10:28] <extropy> the entire part
[10:28] <extropy> starting when you wrote something
[10:28] <extropy> set my computer to bios-boot ... is that supposed to mean something to me at all?
[10:28] <qwiksilver711_> extropy: I think TakeItEZ meant to suggest you set the boot option in the bios to the HDD
[10:28] <qwiksilver711_> or SDD
[10:28] <qwiksilver711_> SSD* sorry
[10:29] <extropy> qwiksilver711_ thanks, it's amazing what a little clarity can achieve.
[10:29] <dijit> dr_willis; I assumed it was taking too long to pvscan so I set rootdelay=60
[10:29] <qwiksilver711_> extropy no problem
[10:29] <dijit> which also does not work.
[10:29] <dr_willis> dijit:  i never use raid or lvm. so ive got no real suggestions
[10:29] <dijit> balls. cheers anyway.
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> dijit  try in #ubuntu-server
[10:30] <ogist> ubuntu server
[10:30] <ogist> heh
[10:31] <Grievre> I don't know why the word "webinar" makes me so irrationally angry
[10:32] <qwiksilver711_> are the new versions of ubuntu more friendly with laptops running nvidia optimus?
[10:32] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  its still a work in progress
[10:32] <kepler> qwiksilver711_, nothing linux is friendly with optimus (yet)
[10:32] <extropy> I see bios_grub in Gparted, is that what I want?
[10:32] <qwiksilver711_> dr_willis the thing that turned me off when i used 10.04 was that i couldnt force the nvidia off
[10:32] <qwiksilver711_> extropy no
[10:32] <extropy> no "bios-boot", should I be using something else?
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> qwiksilver711_  nvidia is to blame for that
[10:33] <qwiksilver711_> extropy its like the actual bios options
[10:33] <qwiksilver711_> extropy nothing to do with gparted, its the screeen that comes up withen you first boot, and you hit like f2 to get into it
[10:33] <qwiksilver711_> extrop should have an option there to change the boot priority list
[10:34] <qwiksilver711_> so, even if ubuntu forces both my graphics cards to run i'm still going to do it this time
[10:34] <qwiksilver711_> if i have a 13 button mouse is it possible to use something to map those buttons to something?
[10:34] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  should be possible
[10:35] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  ive seen some well done arch linux wiki pages for some specific mice
[10:35] <qwiksilver711_> dr_willis i poked around for that a bit tonight, but was unable to find anything for my mouse, its not a super common make
[10:35] <extropy> call me crazy but I think this EUFI thing is just a slippery slope to hardware backdoors and Chernobyl-virus like hardware bricking down the road /rant
[10:36] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  the gernal guides may show what commands/tools they use
[10:36] <jpds> extropy: Have you been to Chernobyl?
[10:36] <extropy> no but I've had doesn't of systems wiped by WinCH
[10:36] <qwiksilver711_> dr_willis i read something about something called xorg?
[10:36] <extropy> *dozens
[10:36] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  thats  the X server.
[10:36] <arkonten> can any one explain why Ubuntu Software Center's search can't find the samtools package when I search for 'samtools'? I can find it in aptitude and the various cmd line apt tools without issue
[10:37] <extropy> Ubuntu Software Center != debians own repos, I believe ...
[10:37] <dr_willis> arkonten:  theres some 'advanced/command line/other' filters at the bottom i recall
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> extropy  maybe you should read some background information about UEFI, what it is, why it's there etc
[10:37] <dr_willis> i never use software center
[10:37] <JornStian> extropy: I for one, welcome UEFI.. getting rid of legacy AT-support and whatnot will bring us forward loads
[10:37] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  dont confuse things with facts!
[10:38] <extropy> MonkeyDust maybe I'm already doing that and it doesn't seem all that necessary
[10:38] <arkonten> dr_willis: I've seen that for other queries, but I get nothing for samtools.
[10:39] <qwiksilver711_> is it better to run 32 or 64 bit?
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> qwiksilver711_  64bit on 64bit hardware
[10:40] <dr_willis> i use 64bit os on allmy 64bit hardware
[10:40] <TakeItEZ> qwiksilver711_: if your cpu supports 64bit, there is no reason to use 32bit
[10:40] <qwiksilver711_> i thought so, my cpu will support it
[10:41] <extropy> for being so fancy, new and allegedly useful, it sure seems to be doing nothing for me besides get in my way
[10:41] <dr_willis> take it to #ubuntu-offtioic
[10:41] <qwiksilver711_> minecraft works with 12.04 right?
[10:41] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  ive heard it does
[10:42] <qwiksilver711_> hooray
[10:42] <extropy> on EUFI: " It does not solve any of the BIOS's long-standing problems of requiring two different drivers—one for the firmware and one for the operating system—for most hardware."
[10:42] <dr_willis> qwiksilver711_:  i think it needs the oracle java
[10:42] <dr_willis> extropy:  enough allready.. we dont care
[10:42] <TomyLaptop> can "kdesudo -u otheruser /home/otheruser/one_of_his_programs" harm me?
[10:42] <extropy> dr_willis: clearly, you don't. which is why I'll stop ranting when I feel like it.
[10:42] <qwiksilver711_> dr_willis thats fine, if it will run on something i'll figure out how to make it work
[10:43] <dr_willis> TomyLaptop:  worse case it could affect your users home files yes.
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> extropy  no rants here, please
[10:43] <TomyLaptop> dr_willis, damn. can i prevent this?
[10:43] <extropy>  EFI [is] an attempt to remove the ability of the user to truly control the computer.
[10:44] <Tager> extropy: how so?
[10:44] <Grievre> extropy: It's primarily an attempt to replace the extremely outdated PC boot sequence with something more modern. Some people see it as what you describe, though
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> extropy  richard stallman uses his own custom BIOS, maybe you should contact him
[10:44] <dr_willis> TomyLaptop:    that would be the worse case. if you are worried about it. log out and back in as the user in question. ive never really tried any exploits. so im not sure how su could come 'back' to your home. bu
[10:44] <TakeItEZ> !ot
[10:44] <extropy> MonkeyDust: I'll contact Theo DeRaadt first
[10:45] <TomyLaptop> dr_willis, how about kdesudo su otheruser -c ...
[10:45] <dr_willis> TomyLaptop:  ive never heard of suing to a user being an issue. but   the user does have some rights to your X display and other stuff so its not totally isolated
[10:45] <dr_willis> TomyLaptop:  that may just add more confusion and loopholes..
[10:45] <Grievre> Why is the default block size for dd so small
[10:45] <Grievre> like laughably small, to the point where it bottlenecks the transfer
[10:45] <dr_willis> Grievre:  because the source code is so old. ;)
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> Grievre: historical reasons i guess
[10:46] <dr_willis> Grievre:  ive heard some disrtos have dds block size bigger but never noticed
[10:46] <Tager> dr_willis: via an alias?
[10:46] <k3lt> Hey, i have a question
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> k3lt  shoot
[10:47] <dr_willis> i seem to recall a forim/discussion where  someones dd had a larger default block size. i dont rember who/what/where
[10:47] <dijit> http://superuser.com/questions/256856/ubuntu-alert-dev-mapper-localhost-root-does-not-exist-dropping-to-a-shell
[10:47] <dijit> :(
[10:47] <k3lt> just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and i wanna stay on it, how can I filter out the 12.10 Ubuntu update ?
[10:47] <k3lt> on the ubuntu software update center
[10:48] <dr_willis> k3lt:  the lts version shouldent be asking to upgrade to non-lts unless youve checked the option in the software center/software sources setting
[10:48] <k3lt> ok, thanks
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> dijit  have you asked in #ubuntu-server?
[10:49] <dijit> yes
[10:49] <dijit> it's very dead.
[10:50] <diverdude> Hello, can i mount a remote ftp-directory somehow in nautilus? Maybe even safe it so that it automounts on boot up?
[10:50] <ee12155> luigy
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> is there a quick mp4 to avi converter for ubuntu?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  avconv -i
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> !info avconv
[10:51] <dr_willis> diverdude: fuseftp or ftpfuse tools can do it. as one way
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  mind adding some options, to avoid quality loss
[10:52] <dr_willis> ffmpeg is avconv I thought
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> yes, it's the new generation ffmpeg
[10:52] <jrib> libav-tools
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx guys, installing libavtools
[10:53] <extropy> huh, everyone seems to need support with linux issues that have nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:53] <hell_> hi
[10:54] <extropy> I'm always in here with real-world problems that relate directly to ubuntu and I always get they snarky "take it to ubuntu-offtopic" crap ...
[10:54] <dr_willis> your ranting is the issue for it.
[10:54] <jrib> extropy: like what?  What you're saying now certainly isn't an ubuntu support question ;)
[10:54] <Serano> extropy well since ubuntu is the most beginner friendly distro, that shouldn't be surprising
[10:54] <extropy> I'm starting to think you guys are just intimidated by anyone even remotely knowledgeable ... and would prefere to interact only with noobs who will *never* ask any hard-hitting questions.
[10:55] <Serano> anyway it's nice to see the curiosity :)
[10:55] <jrib> extropy: seriously, let's stick to support.
[10:55] <extropy> do try
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> extropy  it's n00bs, but better use the word 'beginner'
[10:57] <mesquka> Hi
[10:58] <diverdude> dr_willis, I tried adding this to my /etc/fstab curlftpfs#uname:pwd@host /media/mountpoint fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0     and do sudo mount -a. But it does not seem to mount anything. Is that totally wrong to do?
[10:58] <nabdev> hy, i want to install pdfgrep but i have message error in make install http://pastebin.com/qi31zhbY
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> diverdude: your user is member of the fuse-group? (id or groups tell you)
[10:59] <diverdude> TakeItEZ, in my local machine?
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> diverdude: sure
[10:59] <diverdude> TakeItEZ, how do i tell?
[11:00] <Serano> id username
[11:00] <TakeItEZ> diverdude: "id" or "groups"
[11:00] <agsel> if I disable some keyboard shortcuts, how do I apply those changes? I remembered that they apply automatically (as there is no button like save nor apply), but those shortcuts still work. unity @ lts 12.04
[11:00] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:00] <diverdude> TakeItEZ, $ id bdi
[11:00] <diverdude> uid=1000(bdi) gid=1000(bdi) groups=1000(bdi),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[11:01] <TakeItEZ> diverdude: sudo usermod -aG fuse yuorusername          then relogin
[11:01] <poq> Cannot run paros proxy under lubuntu 12.04 => error http://paste.kde.org/643646/ What could be a problem?
[11:01] <extropy> !sp
[11:02] <day> anyone here running league of legends via wine on ubuntu? any trouble?
[11:02] <Serano> day its works
[11:02] <Serano> there is a bug in the shop though
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> day: did you try playonlinux?
[11:02] <qwiksilver711_> does borderlands 2 run via wine?
[11:02] <Serano> or at least there was. but besides that it works
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> !appdb | qwiksilver711_
[11:02] <day> Serano: the rune buy bug?
[11:03] <qwiksilver711_> MonkeyDust thank you, sorry for being a n00b
[11:03] <Serano> i'm sorry can't recall exactly. It's been over 6 months I had it installed. I remember the problem was that you were not able to buy from the Riot store.
[11:03] <Serano> but besides that, the game runned fine for me
[11:04] <Serano> now with the new overhaul of their interface, i'm not sure if the problem still exists
[11:04] <mrosmrducks> is defekt still on here?
[11:04] <extropy> this is boring. I'm not going to accomplish anything here, what else is new?
[11:05] <Serano> i love my rasp :)
[11:06] <mrosmrducks> can someone help me... i dled the ubuntu 32bit and tryed running with vbox and had no luck... defekt suggested i re dl and still had no luck... i tryed the check sum app and it said they do not compare... ne suggestions?
[11:06] <ichat> can anyone help me figure out how to troubleshoot and  fix  some  hardware  / chipset / bios-efi  issues with my sandy bridge    b830  notebook,  it wont halt anymore  just reboots when its halted...
[11:06] <extropy> HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
[11:06] <Serano> mrosmrducks try installing it with apt-get
[11:06] <extropy> ichat welcome to the club
[11:06] <mrosmrducks> but i want to try to run it first before i install it
[11:06] <Serano> it should download any dependencies
[11:07] <ichat> extropy:  - same problem?
[11:07] <extropy> oh yeah
[11:07] <extropy> EUFI is the devil
[11:07] <jpds> extropy: Can you stop the random bashing?
[11:07] <extropy> jpds: not until the problem is fixed
[11:07] <diverdude> TakeItEZ, that did not help
[11:07] <Serano> extropy i'm not familiar with uefi system, since i love my 980x but is it such a pain?
[11:08] <diverdude> TakeItEZ, it still dont mount
[11:08] <jrib> extropy: then I'm going to have to remove you.  Please just stick to support here.
[11:08] <Serano> was thinking of upgrading soon
[11:08] <extropy> jrib: i'm here for support. Ban dr_willis and MonkeyDust if you *actually* want to remove any trolls. Otherwise I have plenty of proxies I can use ...
[11:09] <ichat> extropy:  first it went fine,    BUT  my wifi module had problems  when it went hybernate...  so i added the    realtec driver to  some   file  so that it unloads   before hybernation...
[11:09] <ichat> after that  change   (but im not sure if its the cause)   i notices my system wouldn  halt anymore
[11:09] <arashmousavi> I have connected to my server via ssh and create a process , but suddenly my internet connection disconnected. I know that process going on, but how can restore previous session to see the progress of it?
[11:09] <ixio2> anyone fancy telling me how I can use find to find the first 2500 files in a directory and move them to another ?
[11:10] <jrib> ixio2: first in what order?
[11:10] <jpds> arashmousavi: Not unless you used something like screen or byobu.
[11:10] <bekks> arashmousavi: There is no session to be restored after the ssh session was broken.
[11:10] <ixio2> jrid I dont care really
[11:10] <sw> Hi, I have a user 'backups' trying to access a samba share \\ip\backups from a Windows machine but can't get authorized. It's using the correct password and is in write users for that share. root is too and that works.
[11:10] <Serano> arashmousavi try using the screen program to have multiple session where you can disconnect from and reattach to
[11:10] <diverdude> I tried adding this to my /etc/fstab curlftpfs#uname:pwd@host /media/mountpoint fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0     and do sudo mount -a. But it does not seem to mount anything. Is that totally wrong to do?
[11:10] <sw> Any help?
[11:11] <ixio2> I just want to move 2500 files at a time
[11:11] <jrib> ixio2: why only 2500?  Anyway, check out xargs.
[11:12] <mrosmrducks> my ubuntu wont run... says i have no pae kernel... NE help?
[11:12] <arashmousavi> no way?
[11:12] <diverdude> anyone?
[11:12] <jrib> arashmousavi: well why don't you connect to the server again and see if the process is even running anymore?
[11:13] <ixio2> ok I can understand xargs.. but what about finding the first 2500 files
[11:13] <ichat> jpds:  any help maybe? -
[11:13] <jrib> ixio2: xargs lets you specify the number of arguments
[11:13] <jpds> ichat: find . -type f | head -n 2500
[11:14] <jrib> ixio2: so you can do 2500 at a time as you said
[11:14] <ichat> jpds:  what does that do?
[11:14] <arashmousavi> jrib: I know, but the process gives me some information(output) that is necessary.
[11:14] <jpds> ichat: Sorry, that was for ixio2.
[11:14] <jrib> arashmousavi: so is the answer yes or no?  Is the process still running?
[11:14] <ichat> ow ok
[11:15] <ixio2> find . -type f | head -n 2500 -exec mv '{}' /new/path \;  <-- like this ?
[11:15] <bekks> ixio2: No.
[11:15] <bekks> ixio2: find . -type f | head -n 2500 | xargs ...
[11:15] <arashmousavi> jrib: yes
[11:16] <mrosmrducks> should i try dling the 64bit ubuntu for my 64bit win7 instead of the 32bit? maybe that would solve the prob
[11:16] <jrib> arashmousavi: what is the process and how did you start it?
[11:16] <bekks> mrosmrducks: That wont help you.
[11:16] <ixio2> find . -type f | head -n 2500 | xargs mv /new/path
[11:16] <mrosmrducks> =/
[11:16] <ixio2> like that ?
[11:16] <mrosmrducks> ne suggestions?
[11:16] <jrib> ixio2: can you say why you want to move 2500 at a time and not more?
[11:17] <diverdude> anyone?
[11:17] <jrib> !anyone | diverdude
[11:17] <ixio2> jrib when they reach their desination they are procesed by another script which gets upset with too many files
[11:17] <jrib> !helpme | diverdude
[11:17] <bono> ixio2: find . -type f | head -n 2500 | xargs -i mv "{}" /new/path
[11:17] <ixio2> thanks everyone!
[11:18] <jrib> ixio2: I see.  I would still say avoiding head and using xargs is going to be easier for you to work with.  Otherwise, you're going to be back here in two minutes asking how to get the second set of 2500 files
[11:18] <ixio2> I presumed by moving the files I could just run the same command again?
[11:19] <jrib> ixio2: good point :)
[11:19] <ixio2> cool
[11:19] <superkuh> This is a long shot, but, has anyone else had a problem with ATI/AMD Radeon cards wherein you cannot play more than 4 videos at once, in any player with any rendering method? The 5th always only plays sound.
[11:19] <ixio2> superkuh all my ati related video.sound issues are always resolved by downloading the development release of the driver from the AMD website
[11:20] <superkuh> Unfortunately my X server on Ubuntu 10.04 isn't compatible with the latest.
[11:20] <superkuh> I really wish I could.
[11:20] <bono> ixio2: problem: what if the filenames contain spaces .. normally one would use find .. -print0 | xargs -0 ..  but with head it wouldn't work
[11:20] <superkuh> Or, I wish I was wrong?
[11:20] <superkuh> Am I?
[11:21] <k3lt> So im now trying to install FGLRX ati drivers for my gfx (hd7850)
[11:21] <bono> ixio2: dunno if xargs -0 --max-lines 2500 works for this
[11:21] <k3lt> installed it and im getting "unsupported hardware" in my right screen corner
[11:21] <adamk> superkuh: Do you get any errors when you run the video player from a terminal window?
[11:21] <k3lt> what's that?
[11:22] <ixio2> bono the files will have lots of spaces
[11:22] <ixio2> its moved them though
[11:22] <bono> ixio2: the filenames too?
[11:23] <superkuh> ... as is often the case I have discovered it was user error only after complaining on IRC. With the gl renderer (which all my video players used) I hit that limit. If I switch to other renders which have horiztonal tearing I can go beyond 4.
[11:23] <ixio2> filenames yeah
[11:23] <diverdude> jrib, as i said,  I tried adding this to my /etc/fstab curlftpfs#uname:pwd@host /media/mountpoint fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0     and do sudo mount -a. But it does not seem to mount anything. Is that totally wrong to do?
[11:23] <jrib> diverdude: I don't know.  I would have answered you if you did.  Just wanted to let you know that saying "anyone?" is not productive. Most people that just joined will have no idea what your question is.
[11:26] <Eagleman> How do i flush the dns cache in ubuntu/bind, dig is still resolving the wrong stuff
[11:29] <jrib> bono, ixio2: yes, if there are spaces in the names you should use -print0 with find and -0 with xargs.  You can still have head in between
[11:29] <kepler> Eagleman, try "sudo killall -HUP dnsmasq"
[11:30] <kepler> Eagleman, if not, this looks better:  sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start
[11:35] <diverdude> in /etc/fstab i have this: curlftpfs#uname:pwd@ftp://host /media/ftpmountdir fuse rw,uid=1000,umask=0777,user,suid,allow_other,exec,auto,utf8 0 1. But when i do sudo mount -a i get: Error connecting to ftp: Access denied: 530. However if i put the exact same credentials into filezilla it connects with no problems. What am I missing?
[11:39] <Kartagis> anyone to help? I've been asking for days but no answer
[11:39] <Kartagis> in cairo-dock, I've accidentally moved pidgin into firefox dock. how can I undo that?
[11:40] <Johnnie> Where is a folder for Operative Memory (DDR3 used)? I want to use hex editor. And I need to know where that memory places.
[11:41] <Johnnie> ! memory
[11:41] <bekks> Johnnie: /proc/kmem -- be careful, that file is as big as your RAM.
[11:47] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  why not just remove both and re-add them
[11:49] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I'm looking at cairo properties, pidgin is not there
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  there's also #cairo and #cairo-dock (irc channels)
[11:50] <Johnnie> bekks:thanks
[11:50] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: I'm in #cairo-dock, no life
[11:51] <dr_willis> You can use the cairo-dock settngs tool where it has a >bottom dock and  >left dock   and drag things between the 2
[11:52] <xsobex787> dr. willis, do you know anything about php and html?
[11:52] <dr_willis> a little tree menu widgit. you can drag/drop from tree/branch to the next
[11:52] <dr_willis> xsobex787:  nope. i rarely need to mess with it
[11:52] <Kartagis> dr_willis: what package?
[11:52] <Kartagis> xsobex787: what is your issue?
[11:52] <xsobex787> if anybody in here has some experience, im having alittle difficulty there.  ty for any takers
[11:52] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  im just looking at the cairo-dock settings dialog box.
[11:53] <nodoor> can anybody tell me how to crack WIFI key, with aircrac
[11:53] <skp1> can someone tell me how to change my file associations so that when i click on a downloaded file (a .deb file) it opns with gdebi instead of software center?
[11:53] <dr_willis> nodoor:  not really a Ubuntu support question.
[11:53] <xsobex787> im trying to make a submit form for admins to recieve that form data via email im using a php script and an html file, i got the disign situation with the html, however the php script returns a white blank page, the server is currently not at its home location also.
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> skp1  right click on it, open with
[11:54] <skp1> MonkeyDust: what if i wanted t open it from chrome?
[11:54] <dr_willis> skp1:  gdebi has a gui front end you may need to install. 'gdebi' is a cli tool
[11:54] <skp1> dr_willis: oh, i didnt know that
[11:54] <dr_willis> !info gdebi
[11:54] <antonio_> for some reason some fonts are being rendered all messed up on firefox now...
[11:54] <antonio_> Here is an example
[11:54] <antonio_>  http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/con_movies/Screenshot-2_zps752cc34a.png
[11:55] <dr_willis> theres gdebi and gdebi-gtk i think
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> skp1  correction: right click, properties, open with => you can "set as default"
[11:55] <Zhaboo> hi all, I want to run a _minimal_ version of KDE in a virtual machine (without all bells and whistles), any suggestions to which distro/package to look at? I am considering for example only installing debian and run apt-get install <some-kde-app> and then let it install its dependencies.
[11:55] <skp1> MonkeyDust: thank you
[11:55] <ichat> can anyone help me  troubleshooting why my system reboots instead of halted,    im thinking of installing  the from the mainline ppa  but it seams that it would   disbable  me from updating the kernel later on and i would have to   do it manually for ever?
[11:55] <challenger> i'm trying to install XP in virtualbox. I've created VHD at fixed 30GB size . but now if i'm trying to boot xp.iso . it starts normally but after some time it says "setup did not find any hard disk "
[11:55] <challenger> http://imagebin.org/242488
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> Zhaboo  you need plasma-desktop
[11:56] <bekks> Zhaboo: How is that related to Ubuntu then?
[11:56] <nodoor> Can I move(have) aircrack in ubuntu ?
[11:56] <antonio_> so it looks like its only happening on firefox and not other browsers...
[11:56] <bekks> challenger: a) use vdi instead of vhd and b) do not use a SATA controller, but an IDE controller for XP.
[11:57] <Zhaboo> bekks: I wonder if there are any minimalist ubuntu versions with KDE that I could also consider.
[11:57] <ichat> challenger:  -1 small itp for you to search on... driverpacks.net    use the  mass storage pack    ALLWAYS  check for virusses first...
[11:57] <dr_willis> !mini | Zhaboo
[11:58] <truexfan404> Zhaboo: i believe i remember the ubuntu minimal iso having an option for the kubuntu desktop
[11:58] <Kartagis> whew
[11:58] <challenger> bekks, ichat : thanks guys , :)
[11:58] <Kartagis> I got it back
[11:58] <dr_willis> Zhaboo:  check out that qtrazor project also.
[11:58] <truexfan404> ^
[11:58] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  and now you go 'why dident i try that earlier' ;)
[11:58] <truexfan404> Zhaboo: i have tried razorqt, its nice
[11:59] <Kartagis> dr_willis: some icons duplicated though
[12:00] <challenger> bekks,  i'm using IDE controller and VHD was working for me on windows 7 and for ever other distro
[12:00] <marsfligth> Hi, on Precise the screen blank after 10 mins even if all settings (power and brightness) are set to still the monitor always on. How can I solve it? Thanks
[12:00] <challenger> bcoz its a standard . i want to use that VHD on other virtual machine emulators too
[12:00] <jnhghy> Hi, how/where can I set up a white list of sites to be accessible and all of the rest redirect to a specific ip address? using ubuntu 12.04
[12:00] <bekks> challenger: which doesnt change the fact that vhd isnt the native format virtualbox is using, and does not offer you all of the features offered for vdi.
[12:01] <ichat> challenger like is said  use driverpacks...  on your xp iso, it will add not hardware support including sata and  iscsi   ...
[12:01] <bekks> ichat: Driver packs are not needed, SP3 is needed.
[12:02] <ichat> bekks:  - i didn  know that sp3 added new hardware support to :P
[12:02] <ichat> anyway to mutch off topic for #ubuntu :P
[12:02] <Fudge> hi hoping someone may be able to help me, I have been for some weeks trying to get a windows laptop to print to my ubuntu cups with a usb hp deskjet
[12:02] <Fudge> at the stage now where a test page is sent but not printed, prints fine from ubuntu systems
[12:03] <challenger> bekks, could you elaborate whats the difference between VHD and VDI ( in terms of features),
[12:03] <dr_willis> Fudge:  the windows box sees the printer and can add it then?
[12:03] <wizrd> static void Main(string[] args)
[12:03] <wizrd> { Console.WriteLine("Hello World !")
[12:03] <wizrd> }sorry
[12:03] <challenger> wizrd :P
[12:03] <wizrd> my bad
[12:03] <Zhaboo> truexfan404: ok, thanks! will check :-)
[12:03] <asdf321> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1519636/ I've just installed ubuntu amd64 lts, I want to run boot repair to see if it will work after I install windows, I am trying to run it... I have two encrypted volumes one for the / and other for the swap, i have a not encrypted /boot. it tried creating a /bios but it didn't work i still get the same message
[12:03] <truexfan404> Fudge: do you have the printer shared via samba? thats the easiest way
[12:04] <challenger> yeah vdi is native format for virtualbox but i want to use that format on vmplayer too
[12:04] <ichat> funch:  so isntall the proper windows driver and have it connected via the correct,  protocol and be sure that  cubs is actually sharing it... or beter yet have samba share the printer for you
[12:04] <challenger> thats why i choose VHD
[12:04] <bekks> challenger: Resizing, compacting, etc.
[12:04] <challenger> not sure if vdi works on vmplayer too
[12:04] <Zhaboo> ubottu: thanks for the link
[12:04] <bekks> challenger: Then I'd use VMDK instead of VHD...
[12:04] <Fudge> hi dr_willis, I can find it on win7 yes, can access server:631 fine, can release the test page but it does not print
[12:05] <Zhaboo> ooops, heh
[12:05] <jnhghy> Fudge: what printer?
[12:05] <jnhghy> Hi, how/where can I set up a white list of sites to be accessible and all of the rest redirect to a specific ip address? using ubuntu 12.04
[12:06] <bekks> jnhghy: /etc/hosts is what you are looking for.
[12:06] <challenger> nywys.. bekks  :)
[12:06] <bekks> challenger: "nywys"?
[12:06] <Fudge> jnhghy  its an hp deskjet f2280
[12:06] <jnhghy> bekks: I was able to redirect websites to an Ip address but was unable to find a wildcard to replace all websites and not touch a the ones from the white list .... any ideea?
[12:07] <challenger> anyways...*
[12:07] <nabblet> hi, can anyone recommend me a free dyndns-like server? i want to access a computer behind a firewall that is NATing some ports through.
[12:07] <jnhghy> Fudge: how did you added the printer on win7? from control panel?
[12:07] <nabblet> server->service
[12:07] <bekks> jnhghy: There are no wildcards in the /etc/hosts
[12:07] <jnhghy> then how can it help me?
[12:08] <asdf321> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1519636/ I've just installed ubuntu amd64 lts, I want to run boot repair to see if it will work after I install windows, I am trying to run it... I have two encrypted volumes one for the / and other for the swap, i have a not encrypted /boot. it tried creating a /bios but it didn't work i still get the same message
[12:08] <wizrd> nabblet: dyndns
[12:09] <Fudge> jnhghy  add printer wizard, the printer is detected,
[12:09] <wizrd> nabblet: dyn.com
[12:09] <challenger> one more ques. .should i choose fixed size or dynamic ? bekks
[12:09] <Kartagis> for some reason, cairo-dock had two instancesü
[12:09] <Kartagis> s/ü//
[12:10] <bekks> challenger: I'd use dynamic, most always.
[12:10] <challenger> bekks , would it be portable?
[12:10] <Fudge> dr_willis  /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed
[12:10] <jnhghy> Fudge: try changing the driver
[12:10] <jnhghy> Fudge in win7
[12:10] <Fudge> jnhghy  I dont think its a driver issue
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> challenger  you can export your virtual machines, to make them portable
[12:11] <nabblet> wizrd: afaik dyndns isn't free any more
[12:11] <bekks> challenger: Which format do you talk about now? :)
[12:11] <wizrd> nabblet: it still is for one subdomain
[12:11] <challenger>  hmmm for dynamic , vdi
[12:11] <challenger> oops
[12:11] <challenger> sorry :P
[12:12] <dr_willis> Fudge:  last i shared a printer to a windows box. I also set up home shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf and gave the users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[12:12] <challenger> MonkeyDust, .. exporting ..
[12:12] <dr_willis> Fudge:  i was also sure to use teh cups web interface to be sure the printers and server where shared and allowed access from the network
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> challenger  you can export them as .ova files
[12:12] <nabblet> wizrd: something like foo.dyn.com ?
[12:12] <Fudge> dr_willis samba was giving me trouble I dont know why
[12:12] <Fudge> makes me feel like going to buy a real network printer lol
[12:12] <dr_willis> Fudge:  cups web interface   http://localhost:631
[12:13] <bekks> challenger: Are you sure you can use a vdi with vmplayer? :)
[12:13] <challenger> isn't it good idea to configure everything for making it portable before installing
[12:13] <dr_willis> Fudge:  best $100 i spent was a brother network enabled laser printer
[12:13] <challenger> bekks : :X not so sure :P
[12:13] <Fudge> nabblet ` mooo.com is very easy to get going
[12:13] <bekks> challenger: Mostly, it is a pretty bad idea, when not using a portable format....
[12:13] <tuxinator> hi all
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> challenger  yes, the configuration is stored in the xported .ova file
[12:13] <tuxinator> does ubuntu mysql-server-5.1-66 from 10.04 come with openssl support?
[12:14] <challenger> MonkeyDust,  will it work on vmlayer too ? means can i import that file to vmplayer? .ova?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> challenger  never used vmplayer, i'm no help there
[12:14] <asdf321> how do I create a mount point on gparted:?
[12:14] <challenger> bekks : now im totally confused  X:X )
[12:14] <craigbass1976> What is the best way to remote control an ubuntu box from a windows or mac that's out in the WAN?
[12:15] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  ssh ;)
[12:15] <challenger> MonkeyDust,  :)
[12:15] <nabblet> Fudge: thx, will look at it. sad thing is that mosts dns service don't exactly specify what you get for free and where and the conditions :/
[12:15] <nabblet> Fudge: ofc it's totally understandable that they want paying custromers :D
[12:16] <challenger> pheww need to check vbox manuals RFM
[12:16] <Fudge> nabblet  ive set a few up on that site and its easy and no charge
[12:16] <Fudge> asdf321  just pull the box down and select a mount point, like /
[12:16] <asdf321> i don't see it anywhere
[12:16] <Fudge> dr_willis  when I view jobs on cups http the user heading says withheld
[12:17] <nabblet> Fudge: ok, thank you
[12:17] <Fudge> asdf321  are you installing and have received an error that you ahve not specifieed a mount point?
[12:17] <Fudge> nabblet np mate
[12:17] <dr_willis> Fudge:  the cups.org has docs and stuff.. but ive never seen that term used. ;) but ive not shared to a wqindows box in years
[12:17] <asdf321> Fudge, yes
[12:17] <asdf321> i am using crypto
[12:17] <asdf321> but i have a /boot not encrypted
[12:17] <Fudge> asdf321 go back, select your partition and where you choose format etc there is a mount poiint box, thats where you select
[12:18] <Johnnie> I had downloaded Ubuntu.iso and It did not boot. There are files with .exe. What's wrong? ISO had been burned.
[12:18] <Fudge> I have not set it up that way, but its when you edit teh partition you specify mount points asdf321 good luck
[12:18] <asdf321> there is no mount point box
[12:18] <bekks> Johnnie: Did you burn it as image, or did you burn a data cd?
[12:19] <typhlosion> hi i want to go to linuxmint-help channel how to do that
[12:19] <Johnnie> bekks: Like image
[12:19] <bekks> Johnnie: What happened exactly when trying to boot it?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> typhlosion  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[12:20] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, ahaha.  You funny guy, you.  He'd like that about as much as me telling him to stop using windows and macs...
[12:20] <Tex_Nick> asdf321 : this is of course after the fact ... but the preferable method to setup a dual boot ( windows & ubuntu ) is to install windows first ... tis a little easier that way
[12:20] <asdf321> I couldn't
[12:20] <asdf321> because I installed it and the ubuntu installer didn't see anything but one partition only with 1TB
[12:20] <wizrd> nabblet: exactly like foo.dyn.com. You have to register for a pro trial and cancel that within 14 days. then you'll keep the subdomain.
[12:21] <asdf321> also the debian installer didn't see it either
[12:22] <asdf321> Please write on a paper the following URL:
[12:22] <asdf321> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1519667/
[12:22] <asdf321> oops
[12:22] <asdf321> that's the paste though
[12:22] <Johnnie> bekks: Menu for choosing installed systems
[12:22] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, I was thinking teamviewer, but not sure if you can just go leaving that unattended for long periods.
[12:24] <wizrd> nabblet: you could also check this one out: http://freedns.afraid.org/
[12:24] <bekks> Johnnie: Did you change the boot order to actually boot from your CD?
[12:24] <typhlosion> i didn't understand how to get that channel
[12:25] <typhlosion> you can do it manually by pressing f12 on boot
[12:25] <hdd> good day yall, how can i made a route stay after a shutdown/reboot, i put "up ip route add network/mask via ip_gw src my_ip" but does not work. im working with ubuntu 11.04 (i know is no longer support, im working on it)
[12:25] <bekks> typhlosion: You have to join the server irc.spotchat.org and then join #linuxmint-help
[12:26] <challenger> yippe B)
[12:26] <challenger> it worked
[12:26] <Slart> hdd: this looks promisigin
[12:26] <Slart> hdd: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[12:27] <Johnnie> bekks: Yes. Other images are istalled automatically.
[12:27] <bekks> Johnnie: Then I'd say something went wrong with burning the CD.
[12:27] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  you will eventually want to use ssh. :)   You can even ssh in from your phone
[12:28] <hdd> Slart: didnt work either i try same site yesterday
[12:28] <Slart> hdd: oh... no errors? just didn't work?
[12:29] <SUN1985> :/list
[12:29] <killer> i can't connect to ad hoc wifi created by my friend /....though i can join others
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> challenger  for future reference: did you export to .ova and import that in vmplayer?
[12:30] <hdd> Slart: if i call either one from a console, both works, but in a reboot, from the interfaces file... not
[12:30] <Johnnie> bekks: Maybe it is so. Thank you.
[12:31] <nabblet> Fudge: i am using afraid.org (mooo.com seems to be based on it) - works fine :)
[12:32] <challenger>   MonkeyDust , not yet, still installing
[12:35] <killer> can't connect to ad hoc network ubuntu
[12:35] <challenger> ? can i ask about teamviewer?
[12:35] <killer> created by win 7
[12:35] <challenger> in ubuntu teamviewer isn't detecting my cam
[12:36] <dr_willis> challenger:  do other apps see the cam? such as 'cheese' ?
[12:36] <ichat> here is a kind of strange question... - my system  intel  sandybridge celeron  would not  halt anymore   so to fix it i tried,  to update to  kernel-ppa/mainline   linux  3.7.1-amd64  witch somehow didnt work for my intel grafix... BUT after i  do   apt-get-purge linux-image-3.7  (so reverted back to my main kernel)  the shotwon issue seams away....  how can i troubleshoot,
[12:36] <challenger> dr_willis: yup guvcview, cheese
[12:36] <nlsthzn> za
[12:37] <challenger> and how can i detect my cam inside vbox?
[12:37] <challenger> it works fine on cheese and other cam apps
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> challenger  it's probably a USB device, check the vbox USB settings
[12:38] <challenger> MonkeyDust,  it is attached to my laptop . (lenovo)
[12:38] <challenger> inbuilt cam
[12:38] <dr_willis> challenger:   You are running teamviewer in vbox?
[12:39] <ichat> challenger:  - no matter, its still a usb cam...
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> challenger  my integrated webcam is identiefied as a USB device, too
[12:39] <challenger> i tried inside  vbox outside vbox  . cam doesnt work . specially for teamviewer
[12:39] <freakynl> Hi, is there an installer for installing ubuntu server on usb and have it load to ram? (Mainly concerned syslog etc. will write so much flash blocks die on the stick)
[12:39] <challenger> and inside vbox cam doesn't work for any app
[12:40] <bekks> !usb | freakynl
[12:40] <dr_willis> freakynl:   You are worried about a 32gb usb flash drive burning out?
[12:40] <challenger> ichat, MonkeyDust : thanks for the info
[12:40] <ichat> challenger do a  sudo lsusb  find your webcam id... and than forward the device in your  vbux  usb  settings... it may require the  nonfree  extention...
[12:41] <dr_willis> freakynl:    You can do a full install onto a usb flah drive.  ive ran that way for months on end. :) never managed to  break one.
[12:41] <freakynl> 13:40 < dr_willis> freakynl:   You are worried about a 32gb usb flash drive burning out?
[12:41] <challenger> ichat , Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b1c1 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[12:41]  * Ajira soupir de déception
[12:41] <freakynl> dr_willis: no I'm afraid a cheap-ass 2 or 4GB USB stick will wear out after a gazillion syslog writes :P
[12:42] <ichat> challnger  so forward the device to your  vbox...
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> !fr| Ajira
[12:42] <challenger>  yeah it is listed in usb list
[12:42] <freakynl> hmm not sure how I pasted that, didn't even touch the mouse haha
[12:42] <Ajira> sorry MonkeyDust wrong channel X)
[12:42] <challenger> and works  for cheese
[12:42] <raven_> ubuntu 12.10 + vsftpd: i am trying to setup a sftp server with virtual users they access all on the same folder  but i cannot connect by any reason need please
[12:42] <freakynl> and it would be running for years (~4-5 or so) :)
[12:43] <ichat> challger you mean it works for cheese install inside the virtual machine or cheese on the host
[12:43] <challenger> ichat: how ? X) :P
[12:43] <dr_willis> Hmm.. is vsftp a 'sftp' server?  i thoght ssh could do sftp wthout any other services
[12:43] <ee12096> Francisco silva
[12:43] <challenger> cheese on the host
[12:44] <freakynl> raven_: don't you mean ftps? sftp is a whole other protocol than ftp and comes from ssh
[12:44] <ichat> challernger so  read up on how to forward usb devices to clients  on virtualbox
[12:44] <freakynl> ftps however is just regular FTP with a SSL layer, similar to http vs https
[12:44] <raven_> freakynl, i need any "secure ftp" service
[12:44] <ichat> aka just coppy paste to google...
[12:45] <dr_willis> raven_:  ssh and sftp would be the way to go i imagine. a ftp server  is rarely needed these days i find.
[12:45] <challenger> ichat : )   lemme try this one too, i'm facing this one prob from 6 months cudn't get any solution , even tried mint , fedora
[12:45] <raven_> dr_willis, yes sftp would be nice but how to setup - what do i need for that?
[12:46] <dr_willis> raven_:  install the ssh server.. and it should work i belive
[12:46] <ichat> dr_willis:  sft gets quite some overhead on large files... but than again  id use dav
[12:46] <raven_> dr_willis, i need to work with virtual users they all have access to the same subfolder and have no access to shell
[12:46] <dr_willis> I use ssh/sftp from my android pone.
[12:47] <dr_willis> raven_:  i imagine its doable. I never need to do that.
[12:47] <raven_> dr_willis, and i need any idea how
[12:47] <dr_willis> not sure why that would need 'virtual users'
[12:47] <dr_willis> sounds like normal 'groups' could do that.
[12:48] <dr_willis> theres all sorts of books and guides on ssh/sftp  most of which ive never needed to read. ;)
[12:48] <freakynl> raven_: http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/ (for debian, but ubuntu is debian based so shouldn't matter much)
[12:49] <dr_willis> Night all.. bed time for the Dr.
[12:49] <raven_> freakynl, i set up a vsftpd server already but i cannot connect to it
[12:49] <freakynl> raven_: please post output on pastebin or something: 'netstat -ntl; iptables -L -v -n'
[12:50] <raven_> freakynl, first i have to find any verbose messages..... my client only tells me about connection errors
[12:51] <freakynl> run that on the vsftpd server ^
[12:59] <gener1c> which ftpd is the most secure (empiricly)
[13:00] <gener1c> talking just about the ones in the repos
[13:01] <bekks> gener1c: It all depends on the security measures taken by the admin.
[13:01] <zolidznake> bytetrial: :
[13:03] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[13:06] <nlsthzn> third times a charm perhaps - o/ all I need assistance setting up dual monitors, one running of discreet gfx (Radeon) and the other screen running of onboard Intel
[13:06] <nlsthzn> the screen on the radeon card working well, the intel card not.  It only works when I go to a tty and then the Radeon goes blank
[13:07] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[13:07] <multimedia> Hello
[13:07] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[13:07] <riderplus> hi. i have no sound in tv-maxe
[13:08] <riderplus> i
[13:08] <riderplus> i'm on 13.04
[13:08] <riderplus> i have installed a bunch of codecs so far
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> riderplus  #ubuntu+1
[13:10] <nearst> hello
[13:20] <TomyLobo> dr_willis, did you reply something to "how about kdesudo su otheruser -c ..."? i had to leave on short notice and now it scrolled off the tiny tiny default log size of xchat
[13:21] <gener1c> bekks: and the quality of the code
[13:24] <Median> So I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my ASUS UX32A, but the installer/ubuntu refuses to start. It successfully loads all modules and such, but gets stuck at "Starting.." just before it was going to start Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[13:25] <TomyLobo> can "kdesudo su otheruser -c /home/otheruser/one_of_his_programs" harm me?
[13:26] <TomyLobo> can "kdesudo -- su otheruser -c /home/otheruser/one_of_his_programs" harm me?
[13:27] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, yes
[13:27] <jrib> TomyLobo: why don't you use sudo -u instead of using su like that?
[13:30] <TomyLobo> jrib, that definitely gives the program access to my files
[13:30] <jrib> TomyLobo: what do you mean?
[13:30] <TomyLobo> at least that's what dr_willis indicated earlier
[13:31] <TomyLobo> basically the program is some proprietary shit i dont trust and i set up a user for it
[13:31] <jrib> TomyLobo: it runs the command as the user you specify
[13:32] <TomyLobo> so it has a nice box to act in while the rest of my system, including my home folder, is safe from it
[13:32] <jrib> TomyLobo: the difference between doing « sudo -u user command » and « su -c command user » is that in the first case you use the fact you have sudo powers to run as the other user and in the second case you actually need to be able to login as user
[13:33] <TomyLobo> jrib, su does not ask for a password if run as root :)
[13:33] <jrib> TomyLobo: correct
[13:33] <TomyLobo> hence the kdesudo before it
[13:34] <jrib> TomyLobo: what program is this anyway?
[13:35] <vtghii> hi does zeitgeist send information to canonincal?
[13:35] <OerHeks> vtghii, no
[13:36] <Eagleman> Is it possible to show the dns cache and look who requested it by IP?
[13:37] <jpds> Eagleman: No.
[13:37] <jpds> Eagleman: Only way would be to log every request.
[13:42] <TomyLobo> jrib, doesnt matter
[13:43] <jrib> TomyLobo: ok... just trying to give you better advice...
[13:43] <TomyLobo> i dont trust it but a bunch of people do, so i'm stuck with having to install it
[13:43]  * jrib guesses skype
[13:44] <iLogical> http://paste2.org/p/2730912 I am using encryption, I tried to use boot repair to see if it would reinstall grub correctly so that I could use it after windows. I couldn't install windows first because when I do even when leaving empty space in no partition the ubuntu installer only sees one 1 TB partition.
[13:44] <iLogical> I t's not booting anymore
[13:44] <iLogical> it gets into a loop of reseting
[13:44] <Eagleman> jpds, i should be able to tcpdump on the dns server to see which dns requests are made in realtime right?
[13:45] <Eagleman> something like:  tcpdump -i eth0 host 172.16.30.2
[13:47] <jpds> Eagleman: Yep.
[13:47] <Eagleman> tcpdump -vvv -s 0 -l port 53    how do i filter for an specific ip address?
[13:49] <Third3ye> Still having problems getting audio over HDMI to work... I've got Intel HDA integrated soundcard and NVIDIA 6800M GT graphics card
[13:50] <Third3ye> Extra info from alsa-info.sh are here, if it helps... http://pastebin.com/ddMeUQ32
[13:53] <llutz> Eagleman: src/dst 4.3.2.1
[13:56] <challenger> guys .
[13:56] <challenger> again in trouble
[13:56] <Third3ye> Welcome to the club
[13:56] <challenger> i'm trying to install extension pack to vbox
[13:56] <challenger> getting following error
[13:56] <challenger> http://imagebin.org/242500
[13:58] <challenger> hlwwwwww
[13:58] <jaesii> challenger: did you download the linux-headers?
[13:58] <challenger> ? :(
[13:58] <challenger> linux-headers? for what?
[13:59] <jaesii> that error also says that extension pack is for version 4.1 and you have 4.2
[13:59] <challenger> ohh
[13:59] <jaesii> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[13:59] <jaesii> you need them for the extension pack
[13:59] <challenger> jaesii : thank you :) . lemme try this
[13:59] <ajfd> morning!
[14:00] <ajfd> well, why maverick repo does'nt exist?
[14:00] <jpds> ajfd: Because Maverick is dead.
[14:00] <challenger> jaesii,  now i've list of headers
[14:00] <zoie> hi i'm getting "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/user/.cache/keyring-GT4vfX/pkcs11: No such file or directory" everytime i use svn; how can i fix that?
[14:00] <moteprime> Hey there, Question: There are/was a Linux game, thats a clone of the old X-Com Ufo enemy unknown. I can't find or remember what it's called?
[14:00] <challenger> which one to select now?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> ajfd  because it's ieol
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> !eol*
[14:01] <ajfd> jpds: no update, no everything! :/
[14:01] <jpds> !eol | ajfd
[14:01] <jpds> ajfd: Upgrade.
[14:01] <ajfd> :S
[14:01] <jaesii> challenger what do you mean which to select
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> ajfd  fastest way would be to fresh install, but backup first
[14:02] <challenger> means .. cmdline is says that " you should explicitly select one to install"
[14:02] <challenger> cmdline says*
[14:02] <challenger> ( sorry english * )  :P
[14:03] <ajfd> I don't like unity:S
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> ajfd  you're free to not use it
[14:03] <ajfd> natty is old and repo still work :S
[14:03] <auronandace> ajfd: there are other desktop environments: kde, xfce, lxde
[14:03] <jaesii> challenger im not the best with virtualbox but you can join the #vbox channel they might be of help
[14:03] <challenger> u can choose other de , like gnome from login screen ajfd
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> ajfd  install something else, logout, select something, login
[14:04] <jaesii> oh
[14:04] <jaesii> i believe unity uses lightdm
[14:04] <challenger> jaesii,  thanks for giving me your precious time , :)
[14:04] <ajfd> lost 1,000 thousand users :S
[14:04] <ajfd> old PC
[14:04] <auronandace> !lxde | ajfd
[14:05] <auronandace> !lubuntu | ajfd
[14:05] <ajfd> gnome!!
[14:05] <jpds> ajfd: GNOME2 Is dead.
[14:05] <jpds> !releases | ajfd
[14:05] <{-Dark-}> hi all
[14:06] <ajfd> who is dying is ubuntu project!!!
[14:06] <jpds> ajfd: Not really.
[14:06] <{-Dark-}> somebody have experience to setup x11vnc server as service and have it always running in background?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> ajfd  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[14:06] <jpds> MonkeyDust: What? No E17?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> jpds  i didnt create that page
[14:07] <jpds> MonkeyDust: ;-)
[14:07] <ajfd> who is dying is ubuntu project!!!
[14:07] <jpds> ajfd: Stop that, or I'll remove you.
[14:07] <ajfd> go go go
[14:08] <nearst> aww. btrfs snapshot like a power tools, why i just know that!
[14:09] <{-Dark-}> guys someone can help with x11vnc?
[14:10] <sekou> Amazing
[14:10] <zandra>  haha wat is dix ???
[14:10] <sekou> removing someone in just one second...
[14:11] <sekou> like that
[14:11] <zandra> huh
[14:11] <jil> salut
[14:11] <t2mkn> Ubuntu with Unity or Gnome shell, which is better :-?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> t2mkn  depends on what you prefer
[14:12] <sekou> jil, please join #ubuntu-fr for french.
[14:12] <{-Dark-}> sigh :(
[14:12] <jil> oups
[14:12] <k1l_> t2mkn: best is to choose yourself
[14:12] <jil> thx.
[14:14] <jil> I have a fresh ubuntu install 12.10  but I get a I/O error dev fd0 sector0 when I look on my ttys
[14:14] <Tex_Nick> !fr | jil
[14:14] <jil> I understand OK.. I can speak english allright?
[14:15] <sekou> cool jil, cool
[14:15] <t2mkn> i like Unity style, and I m liking the Workspace thing on Gnome shell :) On shell when one is at Activities panel all things come in front. But in unity I cant see what I have on other workspaces. Is their any way I can have that in Unity?
[14:15] <jil> sekou  I'm cool
[14:16] <zoie> i'm getting "p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" everytime i use svn; is there a way to fix that?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> t2mkn  it's like that by default in Unity, the indicator for apps on other workspaces is a little different
[14:16] <sekou> ok what's the matter again?
[14:16] <jil> How come when I install the latest ubuntu It display a floppy drive.  I don't have one, so how do I remove it ?
[14:17] <jil> Because when I switch on tty display I have a repeated I/O error on dev fd0 sector0
[14:17] <jrib> TomyLobo: I almost forgot, you may want to consider creating an apparmor profile for it and using that
[14:17] <t2mkn> humm, any plans in Unity for that cool thing to bring in?
[14:18] <jil> I have commented the line loading the fd0 in fstab, but I still get the error.
[14:18] <jhutchins_wk> jil: You could probably blacklist the floppy module, although I don't know if that's an official solution.
[14:19] <jil> what do you mean "blacklist" the floppy module?
[14:19] <digitalfiz> hey guys for some reason when windows are maximized in unity the window buttons are on the left like I like them but when not maximized they are on the right. How can I fix this?
[14:19] <jhutchins_wk> jil: create a file in /etc/modules.d that prevents the floppy kernel module from loading.
[14:20] <iLogical> if anyone could help with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12449987#post12449987 it would be great
[14:20] <digitalfiz> nm I found it :D gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout 'close,maximize,minimize:'
[14:20] <jil> That doesn't sound bad jhutchins_wk
[14:20] <ramirez_> hello
[14:21] <jil> I will look into it. Thank you
[14:21] <jhutchins_wk> iLogical: Please provide a summary instead of just a pastebin.
[14:21] <jhutchins_wk> jil: I'd like to see what others think.
[14:22] <jil> hum, yes me too because I don't have a /etc/modules.d
[14:22] <iLogical> what kind of summary?
[14:22] <TomyLobo> jrib, i'll take a look at that, thanks
[14:23] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Well, you can create one, and you can blacklist within /etc/modules
[14:23] <jil> Ok, but I was hoping to see a readme file on how to blacklist.
[14:24] <jil> I guess I have to use modprobe
[14:25] <iLogical> jhutchins_wk, ?
[14:26] <RiotGS> hello
[14:26] <RiotGS> what is ubuntu?
[14:27] <zoie> ?ubuntu
[14:27] <RiotGS> ?ubuntu
[14:27] <k1l_> !ubuntu | RiotGS
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> RiotGS  it's a system that makes you work with your computer
[14:27] <RiotGS> thanks guys for replying
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> makes = lets, rather
[14:27] <zoie> RiotGS: http://goo.gl/cwKxG
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> iLogical: The question is, why did his system start expecting a floppy?
[14:27] <RiotGS> cyeah cheers
[14:28] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Let me dig a little...
[14:28] <iLogical> jhutchins_wk, I don't know it was expecting one
[14:28] <iLogical> didn't*
[14:28] <arcimboldo> hi all, how can I translate the image id in glance to the  ec2_id used by boto?
[14:29] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Ok, it's /etc/modprobe.d/*
[14:29] <jil> jhutchins_wk I'm digging too... I found three line pointing to the floppy in modprobe configuration
[14:30] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Probably comment those out, or add "blacklist floppy" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:30] <jil> but I'm not getting the syntax yet
[14:37] <jil> for example$ alias acpi*:PNP0700:*  floppy        any idea how to read this?
[14:38] <jil> well after modprobe -c | grep floppy ; I get for example $ acpi*: PNP0700:* floppy ;  Any idea how to read this?  I want to find the alias of the floppy module to blacklist it.
[14:39] <tux-world>  i have in Ubuntu 12.04 lts Hp touchpad keyboard problem. how to use keyboard or mouse usb for hp TP? i cant using hub usb.can any body for help me?
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Just comment it out - insert "# " before that line.
[14:40] <jil> Ok I think I have the floppy module name; modeprobe -l | grep floppy; ...floppy.ko
[14:41] <jil> jhutchins_wk, I would like to but it's not coming from a file.   and I looked for a line with floppy in the modprobe.d/  without success.  But now that I have the module name I think it will be ok.  thx
[14:43] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Known issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1054414
[14:46] <Squarism> I would like a "plugin" to terminal that depending on which ssh host i connect to, sets the terminal colors. Is there such?
[14:46] <jil> I though bug happened only to other.  :)
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> Squarism  a script maybe, better ask in #bash
[14:47] <jhutchins_wk> jil: That bugreport is a mess, diverting several times into a non-issue with VMWare, but comment 43 has three lines of code that fix the problem.
[14:48] <jil> man, your good. I was wondering why people were trying to save dmesg  in temp file
[14:49] <jhutchins_wk> jil: The bug status implies that it's fixed, but the person who reported the fix gave no details.
[14:52] <iLogical> any thoughts on that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12449987#post12449987
[14:55] <pratz> hello guys
[14:55] <pratz> I am using 12.04 and skype
[14:56] <pratz> skype microphone is not working of me
[14:56] <pratz> I have followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/163729/microphone-is-not-working-in-skype
[14:56] <pratz> but even that is not working for me
[14:56] <pratz> any ideas ?
[14:57] <skp1> pratz: have you chevked your mic volume in alsamixer?
[14:59] <pratz> skp1: I am checking it now
[14:59] <jhutchins_wk>  jil Assuming you haven't done anything yet, could you try an update to see if that fixes it.
[15:00] <pratz> skp1: alsamixer front-mic is 100%
[15:01] <pratz> skp1: in the gstreamer properties I have set audio default input to ALSA,  is it correct ?
[15:02] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: was it for me ?
[15:03] <Squarism> MonkeyDust, thanx man.. ill try there
[15:04] <pratz> skp1: any ideas dude ?
[15:06] <jhutchins_wk> pratz: Can you tell if the mic is working in alsa?
[15:06] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: how do i test that ?
[15:06] <Third3ye> Elloooo
[15:07] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: sorry , have not used any recording program in ubuntu yet
[15:07] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: please suggest one
[15:07] <jil> Sorry jhutchins_wk  I just came back.  Let me check if the issue is fixed
[15:08] <balajeerc> Hi... I am stuck with a rather curious situation here. I uninstalled xorg by mistake (yeah, long story, pl. dont ask.. I blame it on the lack of sleep over the past 52 hours). I chrooted into my installation from a livecd and installed xorg successfully. However, now, when I boot back into my installation, I get an error box saying that the graphics has not been configured and that it is starting in low graphics mode. Basically, the desktop manager do
[15:08] <Third3ye> Sysinfo for 'TuxBox': Linux 3.5.0-21-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.9.3, CPU: Intel(R)Core2DuoCPUP8400@2.26GHz at 2267 MHz (4522 bogomips), HD: 11/290GB, RAM: 2888/3008MB, 206 proc's, 1.2h up
[15:09] <jil> jhutchins_wk,  It's crystal clear on this issue. Thank you for the guidance.
[15:09] <Third3ye> Sorry -- didn't know it would ouput :P
[15:10] <jil> I don't have the I/O error anymore and it fixed the gost floppy icon too
[15:11] <balajeerc> Hi... I am stuck with a rather curious situation here. I uninstalled xorg by mistake (yeah, long story, pl. dont ask.. I blame it on the lack of sleep over the past 52 hours). I chrooted into my installation from a livecd and installed xorg successfully. However, now, when I boot back into my installation, I get an error box saying that the graphics has not been configured and that it is starting in low graphics mode. Basically, the desktop manager do
[15:12] <jhutchins_wk> aptitude -f insatall?
[15:12] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: I tried with ubuntu sound recorder, I can not hear my voice
[15:13] <Serano> have you tried running alsamixer in the terminal
[15:13] <Serano> and selecting the right device?
[15:13] <balajeerc> Hi... I am stuck with a rather curious situation here. I uninstalled xorg by mistake (yeah, long story, pl. dont ask.. I blame it on the lack of sleep over the past 52 hours). I chrooted into my installation from a livecd and installed xorg successfully. However, now, when I boot back into my installation, I get an error box saying that the graphics has not been configured and that it is starting in low graphics mode. Basically, the desktop manager do
[15:14] <skp1> balajeerc: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:14] <balajeerc> skp1: thanks, trying now
[15:14] <pratz> microphone not working with ubuntu 12.04
[15:16] <jhutchins_wk> pratz: microphone not working in skype != microphone not working.
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> pratz  in a terminal, type alsamixer, see what you find there
[15:17] <pratz> I tested with ubuntu sound recorder, microphone is not working
[15:17] <pratz> MonkeyDust: have already check that
[15:17] <jhutchins_wk> pratz: Good.  Now you know.
[15:18] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: yap, thanks
[15:19] <jhutchins_wk> pratz: I have yet to get a working mic on my system.
[15:19] <pratz> jhutchins_wk:  :)
[15:19] <jhutchins_wk> 99% bad mics.
[15:19] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: should i restart the machine ?
[15:20] <jhutchins_wk> pratz: What have you changed?
[15:20] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: in gstreamer-properties , I have changed audio default input to  ALSA
[15:21] <jhutchins_wk> pratz: Is this an internal or external mic?
[15:21] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: external mic
[15:21] <pratz> jhutchins_wk: front mic
[15:30] <digitalfiz> has anyone got a fix for pidgin not showing in 12.10 status bar and closing completely when you close the buddy list?
[15:30] <theadmin> digitalfiz: That's not a bug. You need to enable the tray icon in settings.
[15:31] <digitalfiz> theadmin: i did :)
[15:31] <theadmin> digitalfiz: Oh, uh, okay. Give me a sec, I'll find that crazy terminal command which enables the tray again :/
[15:31] <marsfligth>   Hi, on Precise the screen blank after 10 mins even if all settings (power and brightness) are set to still the monitor always on. How can I solve it? Thanks
[15:31] <digitalfiz> theadmin: ok thanks
[15:31] <theadmin> digitalfiz: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[15:31] <theadmin> digitalfiz: There you go
[15:32] <jiwan> hey can any one tell me why i am unable to update my ubuntu
[15:32] <theadmin> jiwan: Which version?
[15:32] <usr13> jiwan: What error do you get?
[15:32] <digitalfiz> theadmin: thanks a bunch that fixed it
[15:32] <jiwan> i had installed some ppa package,
[15:33] <usr13> jiwan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade |pastebinit
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> jiwan  remove the PPA, then try again
[15:33] <jiwan> and when i try to update, ubuntu shows failed
[15:33] <jiwan> that's i want
[15:33] <theadmin> jiwan: D'oh. I suggest you remove all PPAs and packages from them before doing an upgrade
[15:33] <jiwan> how to remove
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge
[15:33] <jiwan> but isn't it harmful to remove all package from my laptop
[15:33] <sgt-hagger> Hey guys, flash videos like youtube are working for me, but videos are only showing a black screen and I can hear sound. This is a newly installed OS. I've enabled fglrx in 'aditional drivers' however
[15:34] <sgt-hagger> scratch that since restart they kind of work, but are horrendously choppy.
[15:35] <usr13> sgt-hagger: Slow network?  (Do a speed test to see that you have enough bandwidth.)
[15:35] <jiwan> quit
[15:36] <sgt-hagger> usr13: No it's my videos on hard drive
[15:36] <usr13> sgt-hagger: What player are you using?
[15:37] <sgt-hagger> tried totem and VLV
[15:37] <usr13> sgt-hagger: Try mplayer
[15:37] <sgt-hagger> VLC
[15:38] <usr13> sgt-hagger: or mplayer2
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> or smplayer
[15:38] <KsM> or gnome-mplayer
[15:38] <KsM> no more?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> or minitube
[15:39] <usr13> mplayer is the swiss-army-knife of video players.
[15:40] <sgt-hagger> Okay thanks
[15:40] <usr13> sgt-hagger: But if you have problems even with mplayer, you can bet it's a video driver issue
[15:41] <nearst> nope, codec
[15:41] <CoreyBR> hello
[15:41] <CoreyBR> how can i modify ubuntu themes?
[15:42] <usr13> CoreyBR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:43] <zeffe> hi all
[15:43] <CoreyBR> usr13, ty
[15:44] <badfinger> hi
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> CoreyBR  find gnome-tweak-tool in the software center
[15:45] <thompcha> Hey, I've got an issue with tomcat taking more than 20 minutes to start. I've written up the problem in detail here: http://serverfault.com/q/466190/45607
[15:45] <thompcha> Any suggestions?
[15:45] <zeffe> You're missing command pv (consider installing package pv), how can I install the package pv?
[15:46] <theadmin> zeffe: sudo apt-get install pv
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> thompcha  ubuntu server?
[15:46] <zeffe> E: Unable to locate package pv
[15:47] <jrib> zeffe: « sudo apt-get update » then try again
[15:47] <theadmin> Eh.
[15:47] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/pv
[15:47] <badfinger> so, I'm reading a bit about an issue I have, and a lot of answers involve "go to system>administration>etc" and I can't find this tree.  Sounds like a windows "start menu" kind of thing, but I don't see it.  ubuntu 12.10.  Any help appreciated
[15:47] <jrib> badfinger: system settings, or run "gnome-control-center"
[15:47] <zeffe> E: Unable to locate package pv
[15:48] <jrib> zeffe: what version of ubuntu?
[15:48] <theadmin> badfinger: Yeah, that's from the old, GNOME2 style interface. Many of those things may no longer even be available anymore. What are you trying to do, exactly?
[15:48] <badfinger> hmm.. I'm trying to set up wireless on my old inspiron 1720
[15:49] <theadmin> badfinger: Well, there's the Network Manager icon on top. If it's not connected, it will look like a greyed-out wifi icon thingy.
[15:49] <theadmin> badfinger: That's as much as I can say for the networking UI...
[15:50] <zeffe>  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:50] <badfinger> yeah, it's not there, I installed the broadcom drivers as per a forum I found about the issue, and it appears my wireless device is either turned off or not recognized
[15:50] <fedor> hi, everyone
[15:50] <zeffe>  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:50] <theadmin> badfinger: Hm, well, if it's turned off you may try to "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[15:50] <jrib> zeffe: pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy pv » then
[15:50] <badfinger> Iok thanks I'll try it
[15:51] <zeffe>  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from live flash USB
[15:51] <theadmin> zeffe: Oh. You can't really install packages on a live system.
[15:51] <theadmin> At least not in my experience.
[15:51] <jrib> should be able to
[15:51] <kaczer> list ubuntu
[15:52] <fedor> could anyone tell me if there is an app or something that would turn on the win-like behavior of middle mouse.
[15:52] <jrib> fedor: what's the "win-like behavior of middle mouse"?
[15:52] <lyda> what's the login/password for ubuntu cloud images?
[15:52] <fedor> middle button i meant
[15:52] <theadmin> fedor: "win like"? In my opinion, the Xorg style behaviour is a complete win :P
[15:52] <jrib> fedor: what's the "win-like behavior of middle button"?
[15:53] <usr13> fedor: What is the "win-like behavior" ?    :)
[15:53] <theadmin> fedor: The scrolling thing is app specific. Firefox can do that.
[15:53] <lyda> from the docs i got the idea it was ubuntu/passw0rd, but that seems to be incorrect.
[15:53] <fedor> well, i mean when you press the middle button in ubuntu you paste something. What i want is to make to behave like a scroll button in windows
[15:54] <theadmin> fedor: You can set middlemouse.paste to false in Firefox. But other apps... I dunno.
[15:54] <zeffe> Reading package lists... Done N: Unable to locate package pv
[15:54] <badfinger> sigh, ubuntu still doesn't recognize my wireless hardware
[15:54] <marsfligth>   Hi, on Precise 12.04 the display blanks after 10 mins even if all settings (power and brightness) are set to still the monitor always on. How can I solve it? Thanks
[15:54] <fedor> I know about that. You can install scroll-extension in browsers.
[15:54] <usr13> fedor: It should scroll when you turn it.  But, do you never find the need to paste?
[15:55] <theadmin> marsfligth: You missed one. The screensaver is set to "Blank screen" by default. :P
[15:55] <badfinger> it's a known problem with older dell laptops
[15:55] <fedor> no. I have ctrl+V for that
[15:55] <fedor> I am not a big fan of mouse :)
[15:55] <badfinger> I know I made this work once
[15:55] <badfinger> with broadcom drivers
[15:55] <fedor> so is it possible
[15:56] <badfinger> so what's the 12.10 equivalent of system>administrator
[15:56] <usr13> fedor: But in linux we have more options.  You can have one paste from Ctrl-v and a second one from the middle mouse button, so that you can carry two separate pastes to your document.
[15:56] <theadmin> badfinger: There really isn't any apart from the Settings application thing.
[15:56] <jrib> badfinger: system settings, or run "gnome-control-center"
[15:56] <jrib> badfinger: you probably want to go to software sources and use the "additional drivers" tab
[15:56] <Quest> how to make permanent global variables for all users . for instance I want to setup JAVA_HOME for my JDK
[15:56] <Quest> ?
[15:57] <theadmin> Quest: /etc/environment
[15:57] <theadmin> Quest: They're not permanent, users can still override them by setting their own. But they are used as defaults unless users do set their own.
[15:58] <fedor> usr13: for my purposes it is useless
[15:58] <Quest> theadmin, ok. but they are permenent of reboots?
[15:58] <nazty> how do i set a administrative password in the latest kubuntu
[15:58] <badfinger> hmm.. says it's using the broadcom driver but I definitely don't have a wireless option
[15:58] <thoonai> hey someone using vdr in streaming mode? mine is failing
[15:58] <thoonai> :(
[15:58] <theadmin> Quest: Yeah, since it's a file :P
[15:58] <badfinger> thanks for everything so far btw
[15:59] <theadmin> Quest: ...well unless your /etc is on a ramdisk for some mad reason
[15:59] <Quest> theadmin,  :)
[15:59] <Quest> thanks
[15:59] <nazty> has anyone ran unetbootin?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> nazty  yes ask away
[15:59] <jrib> !anyone | nazty
[16:00] <OerHeks> badfinger, after install, did you reboot to get the driver loaded ?  or modprobe ?
[16:00] <usr13> fedor: I don't understand how extra capabilities are useless.  And since I've not found the need to get rid of these extra capabilities, I don't know how.
[16:00] <CoreyBR> i'm having a hard time customizing my ubuntu T_T
[16:00] <CoreyBR> can anyone help me?
[16:00] <cebor> does anybody know, if i install win8 to my seccond hdd will this kill my mbr on my ubuntu which is on sda
[16:00] <nazty> im trying to run unetbootin but it is asking me for a admin password which i dont have set
[16:00] <theadmin> nazty: Yeah. I don't think it's ever worked with Ubuntu for me. Ubuntu has it's own image writer tools for a while.
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> nazty  it's the password you use to login and for sudo
[16:00] <theadmin> nazty: The admin password is your user's password.
[16:00] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i got a question, if i want to login via lightdm, i cannot choose or type in an existing username, if i switch to kdm, everything works fine... Can somebody tell me why? Here is the log http://www.evenos.de
[16:00] <nazty> theadmin: to write to a flash drive?
[16:00] <Slart> nazty: you can set a password for the root account but sudo usually takes care of that better (and setting a root password isn't supoprted here)
[16:00] <thoonai> CoreyBR: what did you try and why and which errors occur?
[16:00] <fedor> usr13, its unwonted for me to use middle button in pasting.
[16:00] <nazty> MonkeyDust: no its not i tried that already
[16:00] <thoonai> hey someone using vdr in streaming mode? mine is failing
[16:01] <FlashDeluxe> damn, sorry, here it is: http://paste.debian.net/223748/
[16:01] <Quest> theadmin,  why people use ~/.bashrc and /etc/profile?
[16:01] <escott> cebor, probably
[16:01] <escott> !grub | cebor
[16:01] <badfinger> OerHeks: I've rebooted a bunch of times, and I ran the modprobe command once, and definitely didn't get a positive response, thought I'm not sure what it said exactly
[16:01] <escott> !details | CoreyBR
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> nazty  odd, should be
[16:01] <nazty> theadmin: what should i use to write a iso to a flash drive?
[16:01] <jrib> Quest: you may want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables to learn what the different files do.  But theadmin gave you the right file for what you asked
[16:01] <theadmin> Quest: Eh. bashrc is just a shell script that gets executed by bash on login. /etc/profile is same. You *could* set the variables in /etc/profile but...
[16:01] <Diegosnat> hi guys, how can i solve this problem? http://pastebin.com/EKueZ6Jj
[16:01] <theadmin> nazty: What OS are you currently on?
[16:02] <badfinger> *though
[16:02] <nazty> kubuntu
[16:02] <nazty> the lastest release
[16:02] <Quest> theadmin,  and  bash.bashrc
[16:02] <CoreyBR> i wanna change my ubuntu's loading splash screen, the help website says to install gnome-splashscreen-manager package but i cant find it in synaptic, any clues?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> nazty  just tried, it is as I said
[16:02] <theadmin> nazty: Ok. There's a "USB Image Writer" tool. But you can also use the terminal: sudo dd if=something.iso of=/dev/sdb
[16:02] <Quest> theadmin,  but..?
[16:02] <jrib> CoreyBR: what website?
[16:03] <theadmin> Quest: But what's the point of writing a whole shell script with "export" and stuff if you can set it in a file? :P
[16:03] <CoreyBR> jrib, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[16:03] <thompcha> MonkeyDust: yes, ubuntu server 12.10
[16:03] <CoreyBR> i cant change my cursor either
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> thompcha  they have their own channel   #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <darryl> nazty, also unetbootin works
[16:04] <thompcha> ah! thanks!
[16:04] <theadmin> darryl: It works... sometimes.
[16:04] <jrib> CoreyBR: so what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:04] <theadmin> darryl: For me it doesn't. Might be hardware-specific or something but I never managed to get it to work.
[16:04] <nazty> darryl: its asking me for the admin password when i start it
[16:04] <CoreyBR> jrib, 12.10
[16:04] <darryl> theadmin, dunno worked for me
[16:05] <jrib> CoreyBR: doesn't the link you gave me say "prior to 11.04"?  See ubottu for how to change your splash now...
[16:05] <jil> What's the support channel for wine? #wine is empty.
[16:05] <jrib> !plymouth | CoreyBR
[16:05] <jrib> jil: #winehq
[16:05] <nazty> ahhh i can sudo unetbootin and it works
[16:05] <CoreyBR> jrib, sorry i'm still learning english
[16:05] <CoreyBR> :\
[16:05] <jil> jrib.  thankyou.  why is it not wine?
[16:05] <escott> !gksudo | nazty
[16:05] <jrib> jil: you have to ask them :)
[16:06] <jil> ok thx :)
[16:06] <Eighteens> Hello, i noticed this in my kern.log this morning, 'Jan 11 07:54:05 ubuntu-desktop kernel: [   63.197998] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #1. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.'  How can i fix this, or should i ignore this
[16:07] <jrib> zeffe: what's the output of « uname -m »?
[16:07] <Quest> theadmin,  ok
[16:07] <badfinger> thanks for the suggestions everyone, I'm gonna go back to the web and try to make this wireless work.  seems like a tough problem
[16:07] <Quest> thanks
[16:07] <Guest_6> buu
[16:08] <Guest_6> gdgdsg
[16:08] <usr13> badfinger: What chip is it?
[16:08] <badfinger> it's a broadcom.. I forget the model
[16:08] <theadmin> Eighteens: Don't fix it unless it's broken. And the kernel produces a LOT of messages, most of them can be ignored.
[16:08] <badfinger> It's in an inspiron 1720
[16:09] <Eighteens> theadmin: thank you
[16:09] <zeffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1520309/
[16:09] <badfinger> and i'm using 12.10
[16:09] <jrib> zeffe: what's the output of « uname -m »?
[16:09] <usr13> badfinger: What's the WiFi chip?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> zeffe  what kind of disk is "/dev/mmcblk0p1"?
[16:10] <usr13> badfinger: Can you plug into wired network?
[16:10] <badfinger> what's the command I use to find that?
[16:10] <zeffe> i686
[16:10] <jrib> zeffe: you need to add the universe repository (see ubottu)
[16:10] <badfinger> I know I did it once
[16:10] <jrib> !repos | zeffe
[16:10] <usr13> badfinger: lspci |grep ireless
[16:10] <badfinger> usr13: yes, wired works fine
[16:11] <usr13> badfinger: Plug into the wired network and work on it.
[16:11] <thoonai> MonkeyDust: it sound like an sd card in and sd card reader
[16:11] <badfinger> lol thanks usr13, that's what I'm doing
[16:11] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: For some reason, that device naming scheme reminds me of BSDs...
[16:11] <Third3ye> Why... why... why won't HDMI  audio work and video does?!
[16:11] <usr13> badfinger: Give us some info and we can help.
[16:12]  * MonkeyDust has never seen /dev/mmcblk0p1
[16:12] <badfinger> sure, give me a moment and I'll find the exact broadcom chip
[16:12] <badfinger> thanks for your help btw
[16:13] <usr13> NP
[16:13] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: android uses that for the internal memory and sd card
[16:13] <thoonai> Ben64: ubuntu too
[16:14] <Ben64> not ususally
[16:14] <thoonai> Ben64: it is in all my 12.10 versions
[16:14] <llutz> thoonai: that depends on the type of sd-card controller
[16:14] <Miebster> I installed 12.04 from disk, when my computer reboots I get a prompt and nothing else just a "|" flashing.  What do I do?
[16:15] <escott> Miebster, what do you see after post?
[16:15] <thoonai> llutz: possible, I wouldnt deny it
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Miebster
[16:15] <blackline> Are there any convenient way to see which packages that I have installed from one specific repo?
[16:15] <Ben64> yep, most devices don't show up as mmc
[16:15] <Musam> What is your computer configuration
[16:16] <Miebster> escott: I see the dell bios screen, and then after that straight to black with prompt
[16:16] <thoonai> someone using ubuntu and vdr?
[16:16] <escott> Miebster, do you happen to know if this is a bios or efi system?
[16:16] <badfinger> usr13: it's a broadcom BCM4311
[16:17] <usr13> badfinger: Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:17] <badfinger> no, 12.10
[16:17] <freakynl> gotta run thx
[16:17] <escott> Miebster, if you boot the livecd, download and run this http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ it will provide some information that may help
[16:17] <escott> !paste | Miebster
[16:17] <Miebster> escott: best I could give you is the make/model, dell precision T1650
[16:18] <usr13> badfinger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072887
[16:18] <badfinger> thanks, hang on.. gonna try it
[16:18] <thoonai> someone using ubuntu and vdr?
[16:18] <usr13> !bcm43xx | badfinger
[16:19] <badfinger> you guys are great.. I'm gonna work on this using your links
[16:19] <badfinger> I can't thank you enough.. I'll keep you posted
[16:20] <badfinger> I'm a bit of a noob but I really want to move to linux
[16:20] <usr13> badfinger: Are you fully updated?
[16:20] <Miebster> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1520330/
[16:20] <badfinger> usr13: yes
[16:20] <usr13> badfinger: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:20] <badfinger> yeah did both of those
[16:21] <CoreyBR> my ubuntu is now locking the screen anymore, how can i fix it?
[16:21] <stoic> CoreyBR,  use caffiene
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Miebster  firstly: windows should sit on /dev/sda1   first install windows, then linux
[16:22] <Miebster> MonkeyDust: I don't have windows
[16:22] <escott> Miebster, your bootloader got installed to sdb for some reason. don't know why
[16:22] <blackline> Actually found the answer to my own question. Thanks anyway :)
[16:22] <usr13> badfinger: see my PM
[16:22] <escott> Miebster, if you will run the following commands we can fix it up
[16:23] <escott> Miebster, sudo -i; mkdir /ubuntu; mount /dev/sda1 /ubuntu; mount --bind /dev /ubuntu/dev; chroot /ubuntu; grub-install /dev/sda;
[16:23] <escott> Miebster, run them one after the other stopping at each ";"
[16:23] <escott> Miebster, stop and ask about any errors
[16:24] <optraz> i want a package, webcalendar but apparently it stop at the lucid, any public repo offer this package?
[16:25] <Miebster> escott: done, no errors
[16:25] <escott> Miebster, ok then you should be able to type "exit" twice and if you rerun the bootinfoscript it should say "grub2 is installed on the mbr of /dev/sda and points to the first partitition of the same disk"
[16:27] <Miebster> escott: confirmed, reboot?
[16:27] <escott> Miebster, that should do it for you. make sure to remove that sdb usb device whatever it is
[16:27] <Miebster> escott: its just a thumb drive, why remove it?
[16:28] <escott> Miebster, it confused the installer. probably because that partition is flagged with the bootable flag
[16:28] <escott> Miebster, in the future its best not to have random extraneous disks in the system when installing
[16:28] <Miebster> escott: ah, thanks
[16:31] <jil> Please,  How can I make wine available to every user after a fresh ubuntu install and an apt-get install wine?
[16:32] <jil> every user of the computer...
[16:33] <theadmin> jil: What do you mean, "make available"? It registers itself with binfmt_support so double-clicking an exe file will run it in wine...
[16:33] <theadmin> jil: Regardless of the user
[16:33] <jil> yes,
[16:34] <usr13> jil: It's not Win7... :)
[16:34] <jil> I have several accounts some not part of the adm group and those don't have access to wine
[16:34] <theadmin> jil: Huh. That's odd. I'm not sure what that group is...
[16:34] <usr13> jil: I do not think wine requires admin
[16:35] <usr13> jil: wine runs in user space
[16:35] <escott> jil, do you mean you want to share programs installed by one use with the others
[16:35] <usr13> escott: Ahhh yea, I think you got it.
[16:35] <Miebster> ubuntu 12.04, only sees 1 of my 2 monitors (And its calling it a laptop, its not) When I click the icon to "install drivers" (for 3rd party stuff) I get a system error, when I click "detect displays" it doesn't find the second monitor
[16:36] <jil> escott, that's it.  I'm forcing the hand of my dad to switch from windows to linux but he wants ms excel.. and Excel work on my account but not on his.  I can find it on his account
[16:36] <usr13> jil: What's wrong with soffice?
[16:36] <usr13> jil: Tell him to use open office?
[16:37] <escott> jil, you would have to modify the default wine config to point to some shared folder like perhaps /home/wine
[16:37] <RollinV2> jil, why not virtualize either windows or linux and get the best of both worlds?
[16:37] <theadmin> jil: Eh. Wine apps don't get shared across users, since they are installed per-user. You'd have to install them for every account (easily accomplishable by copying over the .wine folder, like this: sudo cp -r ~/.wine /home/*/
[16:37] <raven> ubuntu 12.10 + Memtest 4.20 - i have a known bug in memtest at test 7 from 129,0 mb is there any new version of  memtest in ubuntu and if yes how to install it?
[16:37] <theadmin> Oops.
[16:37] <Miebster> How do I disable the join/leave sin empathy?
[16:37] <usr13> But WHY use excel?
[16:37] <theadmin> jil: That command may be wrong.
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> jil  use libreoffice
[16:38] <usr13> jil: Yes, as MonkeyDust points out, libreoffice will work fine for you.
[16:38] <jil> MonkeyDust,  usr13 Yes libreoffice is good for me.
[16:38] <theadmin> jil: sudo cp -t ~/.wine /home/*/ # There.
[16:38] <raven> how to make a text-system from a graphical ubuntu system? i deinstalled xorg and xubuntu-desktop already but still graphics!
[16:38] <usr13> jil: It's good for your dad too.
[16:39] <RollinV2> libreoffice won't be able to handle the more complex excel functions. sad but true. fine for basic low level use.
[16:39] <Third3ye> I've got a problem with audio. The audio via speakers on my laptop works, but not the audio via HDMI. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 which features PulseAudio 2.1, Alsa 1.0.25. My integrated audio card is HDA Intel and my gfx card is Nvidia 6800M GT on a HP Pavilion dv5 laptop.
[16:39] <theadmin> raven: sudo apt-get install tasksel && sudo tasksel remove xubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <culpn8r> whats a good tiling WM to use with xfce
[16:40] <Miebster> Ubuntu won't detect my second display, I had it working but the upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04 made it not work anymore
[16:40] <jil> theadmin you mean cp -r ... right
[16:40] <badfinger> usr13: thanks for your help, you're a good person for spending your time helping the noobs around here
[16:40] <theadmin> jil: err. I mean cp -rt, actually.
[16:40] <usr13> jil: I have a 72 year old secretary at my VFW post that doesn't even know she has switched.  It's a very nice spreadsheet that has all the day-to-day transactions of the canteen on it and it works beautifully.  She doesn't even know the difference, never did.
[16:41] <K1rk> My CUPS page log is empty and I don't know why... CUPS is set up to log to the file, and there's nothing in the file... but it can create the file, so the permissions are right.
[16:41] <sogeking99> Hey guys I am having a problem with both banshee and rhthymbox. My playlists are not in the correct track order, and clicking the track column won't so anything?
[16:41] <jil> ok, but my dad will see the difference. his accountant
[16:41] <usr13> jil: How will he?
[16:42] <usr13> jil: Why would he care?
[16:42] <z_Chanshark> hey guys, im having trouble getting the ndiswrapper to work i keep getting this error  " fatal: module ndiswrapper not found"
[16:42] <Sizur> where's the location of files that govern desktop selection at the login screen?
[16:42] <raven> theadmin ill try this tnx
[16:42] <jil> tables functionality of Excel are not yet in libreoffice as far as I know.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> usr13  he's right, libreoffice looks like old ms office
[16:42] <usr13> jil: If it works, he will be pleased.
[16:42] <RollinV2> libreoffice files may have slight compatablity differences with ms office files. i'd check by swaping edited files to make sure both sides are seeing similar output
[16:42] <theadmin> jil: What do you mean? Calc works with spreadsheets perfectly well.
[16:43] <raven> ubuntu 12.10 + Memtest 4.20 - i have a known bug in memtest at test 7 from 129,0 mb is there any new version of  memtest in ubuntu and if yes how to install it?
[16:43] <jil> You have a nice way to do summary table called pivote table in Excel. I know you can do it with libreoffice but it means learning a few commandes. that's how he will notice
[16:43] <llutz> theadmin: it'll fail if it spreadsheets use macros and will eventually corrupt files if im-/re-exported to xls
[16:44] <theadmin> llutz: Macros... yeah. Those.
[16:44] <sogeking99> Is there a music player with the functionality of iTunes?
[16:44] <jil> I copied the directory, I'm going to check if all's ok.  thx
[16:44] <RollinV2> sogeking99: songbird or noise
[16:44] <theadmin> sogeking99: If you mean syncing with iPhone, then Rhythmbox (preinstalled) can do that.
[16:44] <Sizur> where the .desktop files live that configure what desktop is launched at the default login screen?
[16:44] <Miebster> Please can someone help, I've asked 3 times, Ubuntu wont detect my second display, system error when I click on the "install 3rd party drivers"
[16:44] <usr13> jil: As theadmin points out, the spreadsheets from excel work fine, I've traded them back and forth a number of times, not seeing any problems.
[16:45] <Third3ye> Miebster: you should check the logs for the issue, or alternatively: install it via terminal instead
[16:45] <RollinV2> Miebster: reboot the system with the monitor connected
[16:45] <Third3ye> Miebster: which graphic card do you have?
[16:45] <Miebster> RollinV2: the monitor was connected
[16:46] <z_Chanshark> hey does anyone know the ndiswrapper fix ( fatal: module ndiswrapper not found)
[16:46] <RollinV2> Miebster: darn.
[16:46] <LucidGuy> Is there any difference between ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package .. or gong straight to kubuntu?
[16:46] <jil> psychologicaly, man is relectant to big changes.  so one step at the time is preferable.  I would also like to switch entirely to libreoffice but one step a the time is the best strategy I believe.
[16:46] <sogeking99> theadmin: I just mean having the ability to sort my playlists in track order. rhythmbox and banshee won't let me
[16:46] <theadmin> sogeking99: Oh. Odd.
[16:46] <sogeking99> RollinV2: thanks I will try that now.
[16:47] <Miebster> Third3ye: Where can I find that info?  Its not showing up under "details">"graphics"
[16:47] <sogeking99> theadmin:  For example my Scenes from a memory album is in a whacky order. track 4, 3, ,9 7 etc. and hitting the track column does not let you sort them
[16:48] <bekks> sogeking99: Then use easytag to set correct tags and rename the file according to the tags.
[16:48] <usr13> jil: Just because someone thinks something won't work does not mean it doesnt.  I know that people only believe what they want to, and they are resistant to change but, just remember, "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
[16:49] <usr13> jil: If you can show him it works, he will be ok with it.
[16:49] <Third3ye> Miebster: open terminal and write "lspci |grep VGA"
[16:49] <usr13> jil: What do you have to loose?
[16:49] <Third3ye> Miebster: or it should say in the driver install window, really
[16:50] <jil> I have to loose the whole linux installation.
[16:50] <Sizur> exit
[16:50] <Redi> Hi, I want to upgrade my AMD GPU driver from "fglrx" to "fglrx-updates" can I just use Synaptic to do so, or do I need to do it from terminal with Unity & X.org shuted down?
[16:50] <Miebster> Third3ye: What driver install window?  "System Settings>Additional Drivers" that one?  That button doesn't do anything when I click it.
[16:50] <usr13> jil: Why?
[16:50] <Miebster> Third3ye: lspci | grep vga returns nothing
[16:50] <z_Chanshark> does anyone know how to install windows wifi drivers
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Miebster  its VGA, not vga
[16:51] <Third3ye> Miebster: remember big letters -- VGA
[16:51] <sogeking99> ah songbird works well thanks
[16:51] <Miebster> Third3ye: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0fff (rev a1)
[16:51] <usr13> jil: Well, here is the deal:  You either use Linux or you don't.  You know the advantages, so....
[16:51] <jil> well copying the .wine folder in the other account is not sufficiant
[16:51] <orudie> what is a good bitorrent client for ubuntu ?
[16:51] <usr13> jil: No, you would have to install the app on the other user's account.
[16:52] <Third3ye> Miebster: try this in terminal then; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[16:52] <theadmin> jil: Well, you also need the menu shortcuts from ~/.local/share/applications/wine*
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> orudie  deluge or transmission are popular
[16:52] <orudie> MonkeyDust: utorrent ?
[16:52] <theadmin> orudie: utorrent isn't really good on Linux yet.
[16:52] <betsy> hello im struggling to activate nvidia drivers 304 above ubuntu 12.04 anyone assist please?
[16:53] <usr13> jil: Well, yea, as theadmin points out, it may be possible to copy more files to get it to work.
[16:53] <ndases> yo !
[16:53] <Redi> orudie: Transmission is OK
[16:53] <Miebster> how can I get empathy to stop spamming "joined the room"
[16:53] <Third3ye> betsy: try running this in terminal and tell us what the error is: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[16:54] <Redi> Can somebody help me? I want to upgrade my AMD GPU driver from "fglrx" to "fglrx-updates" can I just use Synaptic to do so, or do I need to do it from terminal with Unity & X.org turned off?
[16:54] <Stoic_> orduie: try qBittorent .
[16:54] <Third3ye> Stupid driver install.. why doesn't it output errors?
[16:54] <z_Chanshark> does anyone know how to install windows wifi drivers
[16:54] <Third3ye> Design flaw on part of Ubuntu: don't tell the user nothing.. they're stupid
[16:54] <theadmin> Redi: You don't have to use the terminal. But note that this may break it.
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | z_Chanshark start here
[16:54] <theadmin> Third3ye: Because Ubuntu is meant to be simple. Advanced users use the CLI where they get all the output anyway.
[16:54] <usr13> Miebster: /ignore #ubutnu all -public -actions
[16:55] <Redi> theadmin: Thanks, I will risk it.
[16:55] <Third3ye> theadmin: It should leave you with an easy google-able error code, like WIndows or OS X -- which are Ubuntus direct competitors
[16:55] <Miebster> usr13: Unknown Command
[16:55] <theadmin> Redi: As in, the -updates version may fail to work leaving you with nothing but a CLI interface. If that happens, just "sudo apt-get remove fglrx-updates".
[16:56] <usr13> Miebster: /help ignore
[16:56] <usr13> Miebster: What IRC client do you use?
[16:56] <Miebster> usr13: empathy
[16:57] <usr13> Miebster: Maybe empathy does not recognize those commands.  Try the help files or docs.
[16:57] <sogeking99> RollinV2: This works great, one thing. Can I change the order of playlists? I like them to be in alphabetical order if possible. And I made them in the wrong order (used to auto sorting like itunes)
[16:58] <theadmin> Miebster: The problem is empathy isn't really an IRC client... Use a real one, designed specifically for IRC, rather than one that is designed for IM.
[16:58] <Miebster> theadmin: which one?
[16:58] <usr13> Miebster: /join #empathy
[16:58] <theadmin> Miebster: Well, I suggest irssi on the commandline and Quassel in the graphical interface.
[16:59] <usr13> Miebster: irssi is good.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[16:59] <jil> allright, Wine is working on other accounts.  copying the right files and changing ownership of those file was enought.
[16:59] <z_Chanshark> MonkeyDust:  my wifi adapter  listed but it says i need to use  ndiswapper to install the drivers but every time i try to get ndiswrapper to work i get this error " fatal: module ndiswrapper not found"
[16:59] <jil> That makes me like ubuntu more, but how many of us can understand.
[17:00] <usr13> jil: People only believe what they want to believe.
[17:00] <Miebster> Okay so while letting the package manager update, it gave me a modal "configure grub dialog" But I just got grub working, so continue without changing anything?  (This is the dialog that hosed me up the first time)
[17:01] <jrib> Miebster: check the differences?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> z_Chanshark  try installing ndisgtk
[17:01] <Miebster> jrib: what do you mean ?
[17:01] <z_Chanshark> i have reinstalled it
[17:01] <jil> usr13 I'd say They believe what they like to beleive and one likes to believe that he made the right choices in the past.  we are a change relunctant specie and the ubuntu community should study behavioral psychology to make change more effective.
[17:02] <jrib> Miebster: I'm assuming you are at a dialog about a package maintainer's config file differing from yours.  If that's true, you can ask for a diff to compare the two versions
[17:02] <Miebster> jrib: http://imgur.com/Oi1oI
[17:02] <jrib> Miebster: you're installing ubuntu for the first time?
[17:03] <Miebster> jrib: no, I just installed it, rebooted a few times, this is the package manger doing updates
[17:03] <singharkirat> I am installing ubuntu 11.10 on lenovo think station s20
[17:03] <jrib> Miebster: what's your bootloader now?
[17:03] <Miebster> jrib: grub2
[17:03] <usr13> jil: I have two sisters.  One has a laptop and two desktops, all Linux and her and her husband litterally love linux.  They've been using it for 4 years now.  I have another sister, and her and her husband would not touch Linux with a 10' pole.  They know darn well it is useless and that is that.  People only believe what they want to believe, (is the bottom line).
[17:03] <singharkirat> It is working fine on some systems but on some system just hangs after boot loader...
[17:04] <jrib> Miebster: I don't understand why that's coming up then.
[17:04] <Miebster> jrib: thats why I am afraid to touch it
[17:04] <Miebster> jrib: but I have to, its modal, this is crazy
[17:04] <jrib> Miebster: don't check anything then.  Worst case scenario, you can't boot, and you have to use a live cd to reconfigure grub
[17:04] <singharkirat> I have to boot to recovery and them select resume normal boot.. And system starts but with a bad resoltion... And help?
[17:05] <Miebster> jrib: yeah... but thats what happened 2 hours ago
[17:05] <jrib> Miebster: then, check something :)
[17:05] <z_Chanshark> MonkeyDust:  i have re-installed it, and some guides i have tried install the source and a few other things and non of them seem to work
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> z_Chanshark  and you defenitally need ndis?
[17:06] <jrib> Miebster: you probably want it on sda unless you have some sort of chainload setup
[17:06] <singharkirat> Any help??
[17:06] <z_Chanshark> yes
[17:06] <nyuszika7h> hi, how can I allow connections to port 22 from LAN? this doesn't seem to work:
[17:06] <jrib> nyuszika7h: there are no firewall rules by default
[17:06] <jil> theadmin. I just check the pivot table and they seem to work now. Last time I tested was last year.  So that's good
[17:06] <nyuszika7h> nyuszika7h@ymlyna ~ % sudo ufw allow in ssh/tcp from 192.168.1.0/24
[17:06] <usr13> nyuszika7h: install openssh-server
[17:06] <nyuszika7h> jrib: I enabled ufw.
[17:06] <jrib> nyuszika7h: ok
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> nyuszika7h  try allow ssh
[17:07] <nyuszika7h> usr13: seriously, do I look that stupid? I obviously installed it. (sorry)
[17:07] <nyuszika7h> MonkeyDust: you don't get my point, I don't want it to be accessible from the WAN
[17:07] <nyuszika7h> even though my router's firewall would block it anyway
[17:07] <nyuszika7h> (to WAN)
[17:07] <z_Chanshark> MonkeyDust:  because ndiswrapper is for installing windows wifi drivers
[17:08] <jil> escott thanks for the sharing the sharing tip
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> z_Chanshark  linux has wifi drivers, too, i for one don't use windows drivers
[17:08] <rosenzweig> Are the ATI legacy drivers (for Radeon HD 4000 and under chips) available in the Ubuntu repositories?
[17:08] <usr13> nyuszika7h: nmap -p22 192.168.1.x
[17:09] <z_Chanshark> MonkeyDust:  my wifi adapter only comes with windows drivers that why i need to use ndiswapper because it allowed me to use windows drivers on linux
[17:09] <jrib> nyuszika7h: I'm not familiar with ufw syntax but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW#Allow_and_Deny_.28specific_rules.29 seems to use: sudo ufw allow from <ip address> to <protocol> port <port number> proto <protocol name>
[17:09] <anders_> Apache refuse to enable mod_rewrite.. rails and php
[17:09] <nyuszika7h> jrib: ok, I'll try that
[17:09] <singharkirat> Any help with lenovo think station s20
[17:10] <usr13> nyuszika7h: Why don't you see what nmap says about it?
[17:10] <nyuszika7h> usr13: *sigh*
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> z_Chanshark  try installing the adapter without the windows drivers
[17:10] <singharkirat> Trying to install ubuntu 11.10
[17:10] <nyuszika7h> usr13: how do you expect me to have nmap on my phone where I'm connecting from?
[17:10] <usr13> nyuszika7h: I don't.
[17:10] <nyuszika7h> it's not Android unfortunately, it's just a sh***y Symbian one
[17:11] <Third3ye> Why, WHY... WHY won't anyone help me...? Is because no one can answer, that this is the question of the ages, which baffles all of Ubuntus smartest, most afluent gurus?
[17:11] <nyuszika7h> jrib: thanks for the link, `sudo ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24' seems to be good enough
[17:11] <gdc77> Third3ye: can you repeat the question?
[17:12] <z_Chanshark> MonkeyDust:  i have tried to install it and it just does nothing
[17:12] <Third3ye> Why HDMI video works but HDMI audio doesn't. I've tried upgrading ALSA, I've tried varying settings in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf...
[17:12] <theadmin> Third3ye: Well, the thing is, not everyone here is a guru. This isn't any commercial support. Most come here to ask questions, like you. Those who answer are just volunteers who know how to solve this or that. You're just unlucky, nobody who's looking at the channel right now knows how to solve your problem.
[17:13] <Third3ye> theadmin: well nuts...
[17:13] <Third3ye> or "well, nuts..." -- forgot the comma
[17:13] <gdc77> Third3ye: I'd try the forums, theadmin is right maybe you're just unlucky that nobody here knows the answer right now
[17:13] <theadmin> Third3ye: You could also try http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com
[17:13] <gdc77> or they aren't looking
[17:13] <z_Chanshark> Third3ye:  have you scanned with make sure it detects it
[17:13] <Third3ye> I've already posted to askubuntu.com
[17:14] <usr13> nyuszika7h: NetAudit tcp port scanner for Android.
[17:14] <gdc77> Third3ye: do you dual boot?
[17:14] <Third3ye> z_Chanshark: the module is loaded, the codec shows up in sound settings, and HDMI output is also there - but will not output sound
[17:14] <usr13> nyuszika7h: Seems to wrok fine.
[17:14] <Third3ye> gdc77: no, I've just got Ubuntu
[17:15] <z_Chanshark> is the volume off? like turn up the sound some
[17:15] <gdc77> Third3ye: ah, i was going to say test it in Windows, but i guess that's out
[17:16] <gdc77> Third3ye: hardware support has pretty much always been the limiting issue with linux in general
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> Third3ye  sometimes, things work in a live session, but not in an installation -- try again in a live session
[17:16] <gdc77> Third3ye: do you have the proprietary drivers for your graphics card installed?
[17:16] <Third3ye> gdc77: I know it works in Windows, I just recently installed
[17:16] <Tellmarch> Hello, I was wondering, is the java of ubuntu vulnerable to the latest security flaw that is in the news?
[17:16] <Third3ye> gdc77: yes, nvidia-experimental-310
[17:17] <gdc77> Third3ye: experimental?
[17:17] <yeehi> Updated firmware for a SSD is v important. Will Ubuntu Quantal do this automatically, after installation? Samsung 840 pro
[17:17] <theadmin> Tellmarch: Ubuntu uses OpenJDK rather than Oracle's JVM. But since they share a lot of the same codebase, it may be possible. However, I'm not quite sure which vulnerability you mean. A link would help.
[17:17] <gdc77> Third3ye: which card?
[17:17] <Tellmarch> theadmin, http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/625617
[17:17] <Third3ye> gdc77: it was recommended by the steam docu, but stable didn't work with hdmi audio neither
[17:17] <Third3ye> gdc77: GeForce 6800M GT
[17:18] <gdc77> Third3ye: this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/218799/hdmi-audio-not-working-on-ubuntu-12-10
[17:18] <gdc77> Third3ye: sorry i didn't read it through lol, but the problem is the same
[17:19] <theadmin> Tellmarch: Hm. I am not sure. May be fixed by now...
[17:19] <Tellmarch> I read in the news that the only "fix" is to disable the java plugins...
[17:20] <Miebster> So installing the nvidia-current didn't do anything, still only 1 display, no other options
[17:20] <Third3ye> gdc77: I uninstalled unity in favour of kde, and the multimedia settings doesn't allow me to switch profiles
[17:20] <ixio2> what software/tools should I be researching to achieve a terminal services type environment for Ubuntu? a customer has an office of 5 ubuntu desktops and they want to switch to cloud hosted + thin clients in the office.
[17:21] <Lexant> whois Electron
[17:21] <gdc77> Third3ye: hmmm, idk anything about kde
[17:21] <nyuszika7h> usr13 I said it's NOT Android
[17:21] <PrOReBeLL> hello everyone
[17:21] <nyuszika7h> anyway, never mind
[17:22] <nyuszika7h> I was able to ssh in
[17:22] <Third3ye> gdc77: Know how to change the profile in terminal?
[17:22] <Miebster> Third3ye: thoughts about my 2nd display? Still no where does the system even tell me the name of the card
[17:22] <jil> Ok thx again
[17:22] <usr13> ixio2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto
[17:22] <ixio2> lol thanks usr13 how obvious :P
[17:22] <usr13> nyuszika7h: I'm sorry.
[17:22] <Third3ye> Miebster: alternatively you can google for the output of lspci |grep VGA or install hwinfo and run hwinfo --gfx
[17:23] <gdc77> Third3ye: there's a command to set the sound profile apparently
[17:23] <gdc77> Third3ye, maybe it won't work for you though, it got downvoted here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/237230/tv-screen-disconnect-when-playing-sound-over-hdmi
[17:24] <usr13> ixio2: NP
[17:24] <Third3ye> gdc77: no, that just changes to the HDMI codec -- which the media settings in KDE is capable of doing
[17:25] <Miebster> Third3ye: Found nvidia setting option in SysInfo (which doens't come with ubuntu) and not in system settings (still shows old setting page)
[17:26] <gdc77> Third3ye, see what Miebster wrote
[17:27] <ChronicleX> hlw guys i don't know if it is right question to ask but i'm very concerned about it. How can i hide my   on xchat?
[17:28] <Third3ye> Miebster: I found hwinfo was a bit more specific. Try using that (it's a terminal app)
[17:28] <ChronicleX> hide my IP*
[17:28] <llutz> ChronicleX: ask in #freenode for a cloak, read FAQ before
[17:28] <diverdude> in /etc/fstab i have this: curlftpfs#uname:pwd@ftp://host /media/ftpmountdir fuse rw,uid=1000,umask=0777,user,suid,allow_other,exec,auto,utf8 0 1. But when i do sudo mount -a i get: Error connecting to ftp: Access denied: 530. However if i put the exact same credentials into filezilla it connects with no problems. What am I missing?
[17:28] <Lebby> hi
[17:28] <Miebster> Third3ye: For reference, this is what I'm seeing http://i.imgur.com/gmquo.jpg
[17:28] <Third3ye> We've got a situation of "the blind leading the blind"
[17:29] <Third3ye> Miebster: Uhhh... that seems awfully strange
[17:29] <ChronicleX> 1lutz? cloak?
[17:29] <Third3ye> The nvidia drivers should be able to recognise the gfx core you're using.
[17:29] <orudie> for some reason when I right click the window and select "move window to workspace on right" , ubuntu just closes the window instead of moving it
[17:29] <Lebby> I want to share my internet connection on wifi with another device using the same interface ... how i can do it?
[17:29] <Miebster> Third3ye: Oh it will get even weirder. I have to set it up the way I want, but if I click apply it will say "error dont do that!" and then I hit "save xconf anyways" and then close the app and lot let it realized it saved something it thinks is wrong, and then reboot and it will work
[17:30] <Lebby> same wireless interface ,,,
[17:30] <Tellmarch> orudie, are you sure it's not just you not seeing it?
[17:30] <llutz> ChronicleX: most important thing is: ask in #freenode, and yes, it's called a cloak.  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[17:31] <llutz> diverdude: is root in the fuse-group?
[17:31] <ChronicleX> 1lutz : :) thanks
[17:31] <diverdude> llutz, ahh is that it?
[17:31] <llutz> diverdude: does mount /media/ftpmountdir          as user do?
[17:32] <llutz> diverdude: each user wanting to use fuse-fs needs to be member of fuse-group
[17:32] <usr13> orudie: You can't
[17:33] <usr13> Lebby: You can't
[17:33] <usr13> orudie: Sorry, wrong nick.
[17:33] <diverdude> llutz, how do i add root to fuse-group?
[17:34] <llutz> diverdude: you don't, its not a good idea to let root use fuse-fs
[17:34] <Lebby> usr13:  i'm doing now by windows ... so don't say ... you can't ...
[17:34] <Lebby> usr13:  maybe i can't in ubuntu?
[17:34] <Miebster> instead of rebooting is there a way to just restart X11?
[17:35] <Wireless> Hello I am having trouble with my cisco cardbus can anyone help me please?
[17:35] <bekks> Wireless: Please start describing your actual issue.
[17:36] <usr13> Lebby: Exactly what are you doing?  You say that you have a wireless connection that you share via the same wireless device?  Is that correct?
[17:36] <Wireless> bekks: I have an aironet air-cb21ag-a-k9 cardbus that i am trying to get internet on and it is showing up under wired connection instead of wireless connection
[17:37] <vith_> oh my. the TTS voice on ubuntu sounds almost like a dalek.
[17:37] <vith_> if only the pitch would shift upwards throughout the sentence
[17:37] <usr13> Lebby: You have a wireless device that is connecting to a WiFi network and also acting as an AP on an additional WiFi network?  Is that what you are saying.
[17:38] <usr13> Lebby: ?
[17:38] <Lebby> usr13: y, you got it
[17:38] <Lebby> usr13: only with one wifi interface
[17:38] <usr13> Lebby: Tell us the make and model of the WiFi device.
[17:39] <usr13> Lebby: Or if it is a laptop, them make and model.
[17:39] <warrrior> hello to everybody I have a problem with hitting the centre of the screen. I have installed the nvidia drivers and set up centre through monitor, but I am not able completely to see the windows and desktop
[17:39] <Lebby> usr13: it's not a special device ... is a notebook wifi
[17:39] <Lebby> usr13: and it's not a special features of this network device ...
[17:39] <usr13> Lebby: It's not a special device, it is two of them, (and one has AP mode).
[17:40] <Wireless> bekks: Its on a panasonic cf-72 laptop with xubuntu 12.10 running OS
[17:40] <Lebby> usr13: you're wrong ...
[17:40] <Lebby> usr13: do u know virtual wifi in windows?
[17:40] <usr13> Lebby: Then tell us what it is.
[17:41] <z_Chanshark> does anyone know how to  fix the  fatal: module ndiswrapper not found error when trying to install wifi  drivers
[17:41] <warrrior> hello to everybody I have a problem with hitting the centre of the screen. I have installed the nvidia drivers and set up centre through monitor, but I am not able completely to see the windows and desktop
[17:41] <Lebby> usr13: ok ... i'll say you: atheros ar5b93
[17:41] <diverdude> llutz, but if i do mount -a and omit the -a switch it says only root can do that
[17:42] <bekks> Wireless: It is showing uner wired because technically - from the point of view of your laptop, it is wired. And on the other end of the device is some wireless connector..
[17:42] <Wireless> warrior: I had the same problem trying to install ubuntu but instead installed Xubuntu 12.10 its a lighter OS than the original
[17:42] <Lebby> usr131: ok link on virtual wifi: http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090516/windows-7-native-virtual-wifi-technology-microsoft-research/ .... so u can understand it!
[17:43] <Lebby> usr13: now ... do u know a similar tech in ubuntu/linux?
[17:43] <llutz> diverdude: does "mount /media/ftpmountdir"          as user work?
[17:44] <Wireless> bekks: I follow what you re saying about the laptop thinking its wired. I have tried other wireless cardbuses and they work under wireless on the laptop. Is there a way to make the OS think its a wireless card?
[17:44] <diverdude> llutz, $ mount /media/ftpfeinsmk/
[17:44] <diverdude> Error connecting to ftp: Access denied: 530
[17:44] <Lebby> usr13: i tried with hostapd that is software ap, aka SoftAp ... but i don't know how to connect in same time ... i can do or ap , or client ... not both
[17:44] <bekks> Wireless: I have no clue about that, I dont have cardbus hw anymore.
[17:44] <aFeijo> this is REALLY funny that ubuntu 12.10 now bring a pretty button at the luncher for a FLOPPY??? Really?? ROFL
[17:45] <aFeijo> note: my notebook does not have a floppy, ovbiously!!!
[17:45] <Wireless> bekks: thank you for trying
[17:45] <z_Chanshark> hey i still use floppy disk
[17:45] <ixio2> usr13 that doc u linked doesnt help me but thanks anyway.. I am more interested in a kind of remote desktop environment.. something like terminal services, but for Ubuntu
[17:45] <llutz> diverdude: ls -ld /media/ftpfeinsmk/
[17:45] <Virunga> Hi, i'd like to give to a user the possibility executing commands as root, so i though to create the sudo group (uncommenting the line in the sudoers file) and add the user to the group. Is it ok like this?
[17:45] <diverdude> llutz,  $ ls -ld /media/ftpfeinsmk/
[17:45] <diverdude> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 11 00:53 /media/ftpfeinsmk/
[17:46] <llutz> diverdude: man fuse
[17:46] <llutz> diverdude: your user needs write-access to the mountpoint, adjust permissions
[17:46] <ixio2> Virunga I think you can: sudo adduser <username> sudo
[17:47] <Virunga> ixio2: but the user already exists, is good anyway?
[17:47] <ixio2> its fine yeagh
[17:47] <iLogical> can I fill my harddrive with random junk after installing if I used full system encryption?
[17:47] <Virunga> ixio2: But i have to create the sudo group first, right?
[17:47] <ixio2> Virunga no it already exists
[17:47] <ixio2> just do the command
[17:47] <iLogical> so that people won't be able to differentiate junk from encrypted data?
[17:48] <aFeijo> z_Chanshark, I'm very sorry that you need floppy hehehe
[17:48] <jamesrward> I just did something rather stupid and can't seem to undo it.  Running ubuntu 12.10 and everything was running fine.  Today when I booted up my wireless failed to connect.  I figured I would disable and re-enable wireless to get it to connect.  I unchecked enable wireless from the wireless menu in the top bar and now there is no option to enable it.  I rebooted to see if that would help and now the wireless menu is gone from 
[17:48] <ixio2> they would decrypt the disk in its entirety so I dont see how that accompliushes anything.. also the more encryted data they have the quicker they can reverse engineer it.. or so I beleive
[17:48] <jamesrward> top bar.  Where do I go to turn it back on?
[17:48] <aFeijo> how can I remove that floppy from my files browser?
[17:49] <aFeijo> nautilus
[17:49] <diverdude> llutz, now i have this ls -ld /media/ftpfeinsmk/
[17:49] <diverdude> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 Jan 11 00:53 /media/ftpfeinsmk/
[17:49] <Virunga> ixio2: thanks
[17:49] <diverdude> llutz, and still same error occurs
[17:50] <deadperson> is there exist any program work like EZproxy?  but free ...
[17:50] <llutz> diverdude: thats odd. does "curlftps ftp://whatever /media/ftpeinsmk" work?
[17:51] <ChronicleX> couldn't get this cloak concept :(
[17:51] <uolot> hi
[17:52] <diverdude> llutz, no, that gives same error
[17:52] <jamesrward> I ran sudo rfkill unblock all and that brought the wireless icon back but the enable wireless option is now greyed out.  This was working fine until i unchecked enable wireless.
[17:53] <panoram> hi, is this proper channel if I need some help?
[17:55] <k1l_> !help | panoram
[17:55] <nunya> I used to have System>Services or Settings>Services in my xfce-applications.menu but now it is gone. I have googled the bejeezes but can't find anything related
[17:55] <diverdude> llutz, any idea why?
[17:55] <llutz> diverdude: not really, no
[17:56] <panoram> !help
[17:56] <Lebby> anyone know how to configure a wifi interface as Ap and as STA simultaneously?
[17:56] <Lebby> usr13: no clue?
[17:56] <panoram> !patience
[17:56] <llutz> diverdude: maybe  "curlftps -v ftp://whatever /media/ftpeinsmk" gives more verbose output and an idea where to look at
[17:57] <diverdude> llutz, yeah...just did that
[17:57] <llutz> diverdude: you also could try to check the ftp-log on remote host (if you have access to it)
[17:57] <diverdude> llutz, i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1520530/
[17:58] <llutz> diverdude: "USER anonymous"
[17:58] <llutz> diverdude: "curlftps -v ftp://user:pass@whatever /media/ftpeinsmk"
[18:00] <panoram> having a vps at ovh, as a staging area for some small web app; it runs ubuntu server 10.10, i'm unable to install anything because no packages can be verified
[18:02] <diverdude> llutz, it just gives me: FTP 0xdd2e78 state change from USER to PASS< 530 Invalid userid/password * Access denied: 530
[18:02] <diverdude> llutz, but i know its correct user//pass ...i checked several times and i can log in using filezilla
[18:02] <llutz> diverdude: "Invalid userid/password " <- any special chars in password/username?
[18:03] <CarlFK> searching for what provides   kcomponentdata.h -   http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=kcomponentdata.h   shows http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/kdelibs5-dev   which errors with "  two or more packages specified (kdelibs5-dev karmic) "
[18:03] <CarlFK> Where do I report this?
[18:03] <CarlFK> oh nm, i see it in the fine print
[18:03] <diverdude> llutz, no. Only standard ascii chars (both small and big case)
[18:04] <diverdude> llutz, and numbers
[18:04] <llutz> diverdude: i'm out of ideas then, sorry. hint: use sshfs :)
[18:04] <diverdude> llutz, ssh is not supported on that server :(
[18:06] <dryhay> hi. is there any ubuntu forums channel or twitter live feed with new forum threads and answers?
[18:08] <Wireless> Hello everyone, Does anyone know about how to get xubuntu 12.10 to see my eth0 as a wirless connection instead of a wired one?
[18:09] <Wireless> The wireless device is a AIR-CB21AG-A-K9 cisco aironet wireless cardbus, please anyone help.
[18:11] <feeshon> Seems like it hung up correctly http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=50f055c532cb4
[18:11] <feeshon> ?
[18:11] <feeshon> sorry can anyone assist with this error http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=50f055c532cb4
[18:13] <mat619> Hi there! Need some help configuring remote SSH access... I've installed sshd (via tasksel during installation), configured it, and it works locally. my router is forwarding TCP traffic on a port different from 22 to the box's port 22, but I don't get a response
[18:13] <demonio> I installed ubuntu 12.10 but my graphich card gets mistake
[18:13] <demonio> Can anyone help me ?
[18:13] <feeshon> demonio: What graphics card are you using?
[18:14] <rosenzweig> Okay, I have a small issue.
[18:14] <feeshon> demonio: What driver are you using?
[18:14] <SwedeMike> mat619: you should verify using wireshark on the local box that you're actually getting the packet destined for port 22.
[18:14] <rosenzweig> I had to install the legacy ati drivers through the package on the AMD website.
[18:14] <rosenzweig> For what ever reason they didn't work and now I'm on fallback drivers.
[18:14] <mat619> SwedeMike: I thought about using wireshark for analysis but installing it on that system would be overkill - it's a thinclient running of a CF card
[18:15] <rosenzweig> I tried uninstalling the ati drivers via the uninstall script and when I did that I couldn't boot to the desktop (it would hang on the background picture after log in).
[18:15] <mat619> SwedeMike: and I don't have a system at hand right now that could serve as packet sniffer
[18:15] <rosenzweig> How do I completely uninstall the ATI driver package?
[18:15] <demonio> feeshon wait i'll ceck
[18:15] <jab416171> I think my local DNS server injects lines into my /etc/resolv.conf when I connect to the network, but I want to append to what it injects. So I'm editing /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/. The only issue is that you can't have multiple "search" directives in the file, it ignores all but the last one.
[18:15] <feeshon> sorry can anyone assist with this error http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=50f055c532cb4
[18:16] <Lebby> feeshon:  you have a problem on hostname configuration
[18:16] <mat619> by the way, forgot to mention, at least ssh doesn't say the connection was refused. I just get an empty prompt, no password prompt, nothing, until I hit ^C
[18:17] <Lebby> feeshon:  i'm not sure ... but it could ... you must check you hostname
[18:17] <mat619> for fun i also tried bbssh from my blackberry, that just times out and states "Notice: NULL". very informative
[18:17] <SwedeMike> mat619: try tcpdump instead then. "tcpdump -i eth0 port 22"
[18:18] <Lebby> feeshon:  then i suggest to remove samba ... autoremove ... update ... upgrade and then reinstall samba
[18:19] <mat619> SwedeMike: good point, completely forgot about the obvious
[18:19] <jab416171> any advice?
[18:19] <feeshon> OK thank you Lebby I working on that now
[18:20] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to send HTML email using command line
[18:20] <demonio> feeshon nvidia corporation mcp61
[18:20] <Lebby> feeshon:  if u have problem try to ask ... i'll try to help u!
[18:20] <mat619> SwedeMike: well looks like there's no traffic arriving at all. great.
[18:21] <RFleming> Greetings!
[18:21] <mat619> SwedeMike: must be my fritzbox's fault then
[18:21] <feeshon> Thank you Lebby
[18:22] <RFleming> I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 and all the packages I like, want, need, syncronised my music from Google and all my other files with my other cloud storage.  Now I realise I made a huge mistake by encrypting my home directory only and wish to decrypt it.  How do I go about doing that?
[18:23] <feeshon> demonio: did you install the additional nvidia driver/
[18:23] <feeshon> ?
[18:23] <RFleming> I really don't want to reinstall
[18:24] <demonio> feeshon no how can i do it ? Now i'm in terminal emergency
[18:24] <mat619> SwedeMike: hm, does ubuntu deny SSH from outside hosts by default?
[18:24] <feeshon> you need to use the additional drivers utility
[18:25] <demonio> Can i do it by terminal ?
[18:27] <feeshon> Lebby: I get the same error when I install samba4
[18:27] <feeshon> demonio: There is always google :) I don't know how to do install additional drivers from terminal
[18:27] <feeshon> I did a remove
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  sudo apt-get purge samba4;sudo apt-get autoremove;sudo apt-get install samba4
[18:28] <demonio> freeshon Ok thanks :)
[18:29] <feeshon> MonkeyDust: Ok trying that now
[18:30] <feeshon> thank you
[18:30] <feeshon> MonkeyDust: same shit bro
[18:30] <feeshon> ERROR: Invalid smb.conf
[18:30] <feeshon> /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba4.postinst: 14: /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba4.postinst: /usr/share/samba/setoption.pl: Permission denied
[18:31] <feeshon> dpkg: error processing samba4 (--configure):
[18:31] <OerHeks> demonio, from terminal use jockey-text > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/#Without_X_.2BAC8_from_the_console
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  sudo apt-get purge samba4;sudo apt-get autoremove;sudo apt-get install samba4 --reinstall    <- bit weird, but worked for me (other package)
[18:31] <delac> how to list devices connected to ad-hoc network?
[18:32] <syrius> Having an issue and not sure if anyone else has experienced this lately. A few days ago I noticed grub2 updated itself. For the first time since I've owned this laptop, I'm having intermittent boot issues.
[18:32] <syrius> It makes it to grub each time, but getting different errors from there that prevent it from booting into ubuntu
[18:32] <syrius> Error: file not found.... Error: device not found... Need to load kernel first, etc.. Among others..
[18:33] <escott> syrius, could it be that there is a new kernel?
[18:33] <syrius> Is that indicative of anything from any initial impressions?
[18:33] <syrius> escott
[18:33] <syrius> oh..
[18:33] <syrius> potentially
[18:33] <FloodBot1> syrius: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <escott> syrius, in either case its a timing issue. you can add some rootdelay args to the kernel or add some delays to grub
[18:34] <syrius> escott: Very interesting. I'll look into that. I was about to do a memcheck.. I thoguht maybe something was amiss with the HDD, but the SMART check utility is checking out fine (not sure how reliable that is)
[18:34] <feeshon> MonkeyDust: still the same thing
[18:34] <fxworker> Hi Ubuntu-Experts
[18:34] <syrius> escott: I ALSO had a problem yesterday (only once thoug) where it didn't make it to grub, but every other time after that it has
[18:34] <feeshon> this is a brand new install of ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:34] <lacrymology> I usually use my laptop with an HDMI cable connected to a monitor
[18:34] <feeshon> Just installed some dependencies
[18:34] <fxworker> I´m struggling with a problem since many weeks and I hope to get help here.
[18:34] <lacrymology> now I've unplugged it I think for the first time since last install
[18:35] <lacrymology> and I can't change resolution, I'm stuck at 640x480
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  try sudo apt-get update, first
[18:35] <bryanrohrer> Good afternoon
[18:35] <tgs3> why the ubuntu home folder encryption can stop working... troubleshoot ?
[18:35] <fxworker> I´ve a ubuntu-10.0.4-server and need to open ports for another ubuntu-server, but I can´t get it done.
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> fxworker  #ubuntu-server
[18:35] <syrius> escott: you mentioned adding a root delay to the kernel, or a delay to grub itself. Is any one of those preferrable to the other?
[18:35] <fxworker> Now I don´t now if iptables is working or not, or is ufw active.
[18:35] <feeshon> fxworker: What ports and what does you iptables look like?
[18:36] <fxworker> I´ve installed webmin on it. I tried to define rules for iptabels over webmin.
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> fxworker  webmin is no longer adviced
[18:36] <bryanrohrer> I am trying to get Unbuntu updated on one server and do a duel boot on another.
[18:36] <escott> syrius, i would suspect its the kernel and add a rootdelay arg to your /etc/default/grub
[18:37] <fxworker> When I enter this command: nmap -P0 -sU myIP, then I get this list:
[18:37] <fxworker> Not shown: 997 closed ports
[18:37] <fxworker> PORT      STATE         SERVICE
[18:37] <fxworker> 53/udp    open|filtered domain
[18:37] <fxworker> 5353/udp  open|filtered zeroconf
[18:37] <fxworker> 10000/udp open|filtered unknown
[18:37] <FloodBot1> fxworker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <bryanrohrer> Neither are working
[18:37] <syrius> escott: I will give that a try. Thank you for the suggestion.
[18:37] <tgs3> !encrypt
[18:37] <Rienzilla> hey there
[18:38] <fxworker> The problem is, when I apply the changes for iptables in webmin, then I don´t see any effect.
[18:38] <bryanrohrer> Hey Rienzilla
[18:38] <fxworker> @MonkeyDust: What else can I use instead of webmin?
[18:39] <Rienzilla> I am working on an ubuntu system, but the tools are french.... is there an easy way to make them talk english to me? :)
[18:39] <z_Chanshark> is anyone having the same problem as me, having the ndiswapper not work and giving you the error  fatal: module ndiswrapper not found
[18:39] <Rienzilla> lol, souhaitez-vous continuer [O/n] :)
[18:40] <fxworker> @feeshon: fxworker: What ports and what does you iptables look like? => What do you mean by this?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> fxworker  try !zentyal
[18:40] <fxworker> Aha, ok, lets have a look
[18:40] <escott> !locale
[18:40] <escott> Rienzilla, ^^
[18:41] <feeshon> MonkeyDust: Still no go even with update
[18:41] <feeshon> I get a ton of errors
[18:41] <bono> q
[18:42] <feeshon> Lebby:
[18:42] <bono> sorry
[18:42] <feeshon> Lebby: any ideas?
[18:42] <Lebby> feeshon: y
[18:42] <fxworker> Well, if I use the commandline, how to activate the iptables-rules? And how can I check, wheather iptables is active?
[18:42] <Rienzilla> escott: ty
[18:42] <Lebby> feeshon:  yes
[18:42] <escott> fxworker, sudo iptables -L
[18:42] <Lebby> feeshon:  sudo apt-get remove samba-* samba4 samba4-* --purge
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> feeshon  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[18:43] <syrius> escott: Are you talking about the delay in GRUB that dictates how long it waits before automatically selecting the first kernel?
[18:43] <fxworker> I have this for Input and output:
[18:43] <fxworker> ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:10000
[18:43] <fxworker> And port 10000 is what I need.
[18:43] <escott> syrius, no "rootdelay" which is an argument that the kernel uses to delay searching for the root device
[18:43] <syrius> escott: ok that makes more sense. I don't see that in the /etc/default/grub file
[18:44] <fxworker> But when I try this command from another server, it has no access: sudo nmap -P0 -sU server1_IP
[18:44] <escott> syrius, rootdelay=seconds
[18:44] <Lebby> feeshon:  when u done ... call me
[18:44] <syrius> escott: alright. 5 should be adequate?
[18:44] <escott> syrius, add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[18:44] <syrius> ah
[18:44] <escott> syrius, then update-grub
[18:44] <Lebby> feeshon:  after u removed we wil search manually all conf file and we will remove
[18:44] <syrius> escott: I see the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. Thank you :)
[18:44] <escott> syrius, it could be you need a delay somewhere else in the boot, but thats the most commonly used one for the kernel
[18:45] <fxworker> When I try this command from another server, it has no access: sudo nmap -P0 -sU server1_IP
[18:45] <syrius> escoot: it's so odd, because I've been using this day in and day out for months now, and yesterday is the first time it started doing it
[18:45] <syrius> maybe i should roll back a kernel and see if it keeps happening
[18:45] <escott> syrius, thats a good way to verify if it is the kernel
[18:46] <escott> syrius, but it is not in and of itself strange that the kernel change could cause a timing issue
[18:47] <syrius> escott: that's good to know.. so i might have stepped on myself, as yesterday i *removed* all the old kernels except the current
[18:47] <Lebby> i have a pc connected to an ap by wifi. I want to connect a device on pc by wifi. The pc has 1 wifi interface. It is possible in windows. Is it possibile in linux? How? I tried hostapd ... and it works if i must create an ap ... but i can't connect ... i tried to create an iw alias .... but hostapd crash ...
[18:47] <Lebby> feeshon: are u here?
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> Lebby  internet sharing?
[18:47] <Lebby> MonkeyDust: y
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> !ics | Lebby
[18:48] <escott> syrius, you can still install the old ones, you probably have the debs in /var/cache/apt
[18:48] <syrius> ah okay i'll look there
[18:48] <Lebby> MonkeyDust:  it doesn't explain how to share using same device that is an ap
[18:48] <syrius> hrmm i'm only seeing 3.2.0-35 there, which is what i'm running atm
[18:48] <syrius> is there an easy way to spell 3.2.0-34 using apt-get?
[18:49] <syrius> err s/spell/specify
[18:50] <mohammad> hello
[18:50] <syrius> Looks like I'll have to find the .34 deb somewhere
[18:53] <geniusz> kurwa
[18:53] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to send HTML email using command line
[18:53] <bekks> geniusz: Watch your language please ;)
[18:56] <nUmBeR> hi!
[18:56] <phunyguy> Yeah, in KDE settings I have "Use Manually Specified Proxy" checked, and for SOCKS I have "localhost:1080" set.  I do have a valid SSH tunnel with port 1080 forwarded to a remote server.  This worked under regular Ubuntu, but not in Kubuntu. Apps seem to ignore the fact that there is a proxy needing to be used.
[18:57] <nUmBeR> Do you can help me?
[18:58] <bekks> We dont know.
[18:58] <nUmBeR> mmm
[18:58] <DJones> !ask | nUmBeR
[18:58] <nUmBeR> ok
[18:58] <z_Chanshark> nUmBeR: what do you need help with
[19:00] <nUmBeR> I´m looking for a channel because I´m looking for a freeshell
[19:00] <nUmBeR> Do you can tell me where?
[19:00] <sh3llc0d3r> hellllllllllllllllllllllllo there
[19:01] <bekks> nUmBeR: Whats a freeshell?
[19:01] <nUmBeR> sh3llc0d3r hi
[19:01] <DJones> nUmBeR: This is Ubuntu support, we don't deal with free shells
[19:01] <z_Chanshark> nUmBeR:  im not really sure what your asking
[19:02] <syrius> escott: http://i.imgur.com/0A2Lo.png --- do you think this could be the problem? this is the HDD grub is on, and smart check, while it says healthy, also denotes that there were 'read errors'
[19:03] <nUmBeR> I know for sure here in this server there is a channel about that, but I don´t know What´s is..
[19:03] <escott> syrius,i  usually dont look at that value. things like remapped sector counts are more useful
[19:03] <llutz> !alis | nUmBeR
[19:03] <syrius> escott: alright, just checking. thank you
[19:03] <z_Chanshark> does anyone have a fix for bug #986064 "FATEL: Module ndiswrapper not found"
[19:03] <nUmBeR> mmm ok thanks
[19:03] <disharmonic> is there a way to make Steam and Wine/Steam look or be named different in Dash?
[19:04] <phunyguy> disharmonic, the launchers are found in /usr/share/applications
[19:04] <MrStein> Hi! Is install to USB key supported by the default installer? Google only find ancient stuff regarding this.
[19:04] <phunyguy> you can change the name there
[19:04] <bekks> !usb | MrStein
[19:04] <disharmonic> phunyguy, cheers
[19:05] <MrStein> bekks: "to", not "from"
[19:05] <phunyguy> if you get something wrong, there are a few guides out there, and if Unity doesn't like what you changed, it will hide the icon on you.  :)
[19:06] <bekks> MrStein: Then read the second part of what ubottu told you please.
[19:06] <nabblet> when i use "ls -al" in what format is the file size displayed to me? byte?
[19:06] <d4vidb> Well I successfully ran Ubuntu 12.04 installed on 16GB USB stick
[19:06] <bekks> nabblet: Yes.
[19:07] <nabblet> bekks: if i want to convert it to GB, should i use base 10 or base 2?
[19:08] <MonkWitDaFunk> how much free space do you have now d4vidb
[19:08] <bekks> nabblet: Just use ls -lha
[19:08] <MrStein> bekks: I just did... sorry , sometimes my finger overtake my thoughts
[19:08] <MrStein> fingers
[19:08] <nabblet> bekks: afaig for transmssion rates 1kB=2^10B
[19:08] <nabblet> bekks: this is what i do... i was jsut wondering
[19:08] <ixio2b> what tools/software can be used to acheive a terminal services like configuration with Ubuntu? I need a cloud hosted Ubuntu server that windows, ubuntu and thin clients can connect to and have a standard set of applications etc
[19:08] <nabblet> bekks: since i wanted to estimant some transmission times
[19:09] <z_Chanshark> lol nabblet  i pluged in my external hardrive and it told me i had 15,002,500,000 bytes
[19:09] <bishops> hello, i have a problem with trying to connect a logitech k810 keyboard through bluetooth to ubuntu 12.10
[19:09] <nabblet> ixio2b: if you need only the applications use ssh -X
[19:09] <MonkWitDaFunk> linux terminal server project
[19:10] <ixio2b> nabblet can you elaborate please?
[19:10] <bishops> bluetooth seems to crash or to give error message
[19:10] <ixio2b> this needs to be reasonably straight forward for users to access from different types of devices
[19:10] <Mathias> i got some problems connecting to a pptp-vpn server (actually, multiple servers)
[19:10] <ixio2b> like terminal services would be..
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> ixio2b  is ownCloud what you're looking for?
[19:11] <z_Chanshark> hey does anyone know how to fix the wifi problem FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[19:11] <ixio2b> owncloud can give me a virtual desktop?
[19:12] <ixio2b> z_Chanshark: /sbin/modprobe nidswrapper
[19:12] <MonkWitDaFunk> ixio2, you can use grub to boot an is dedicated to a specific task
[19:12] <MonkWitDaFunk> an OS
[19:12] <z_Chanshark> ixio2b:  yea that, i have tried like every guide of fixing it
[19:13] <ixio2b> MonkWitDaFunk: do you know what terminal services is ?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> ixio2b  is this useful? http://owncloud.org/features/
[19:14] <ixio2b> nope
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> ok
[19:14] <ixio2b> lol
[19:14] <MonkWitDaFunk> i think its booting an is over a network right? ive used systems that network boot
[19:14] <MonkWitDaFunk> an os*
[19:14] <ixio2b> no I dont wantt boot over a network
[19:14] <ixio2b> forget I even mentioned thin client for now
[19:14] <MonkWitDaFunk> ok. sorry
[19:15] <ixio2b> I want to have a cloudserver that people from anywhere in the world can login to and have a desktop
[19:15] <z_Chanshark> i want my wifi to work :D
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> ixio2b  sounds 'très' Citrix to me
[19:16] <ixio2b> MonkeyDust yes, I am looking for a citrix/nomachine/terminal services alternative
[19:16] <ixio2b> for 5 users
[19:17] <Mathias> ixio2b: vnc over ssh into a vm? :P
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> ixio2b  something like this? http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html
[19:18] <Overjoy> hi
[19:18] <ixio2b> VDI would work, but I would have to have 5 of them.. whereas with citrix/TS/nomachine I only need one of them
[19:18] <Overjoy> oi
[19:18] <z_Chanshark> hi
[19:18] <Overjoy> i`am portuguese of brazil
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> !br
[19:18] <modifier> which chips are better RaLink or Broadcom ? i have 2 cards one RALINK RT3090BC4 and Broadcom BCM94313HMGB.....which card to use ?
[19:19] <Mathias> modifier: it depends
[19:19] <modifier> Mathias: means ?
[19:21] <Miebster_> When you have an alternate name like Miebster|atwork do you register that name as well?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Miebster_  ask in #freenode
[19:22] <irule>  ip route | grep default
[19:22] <irule> 	hi, just installed lts erver with ncrypted LVM, it asks for encryted passphrase, how may I skip te passpfrase requirement? this will be a server, not a desktop
[19:23] <modifier> Mathias: how to find which card is better ? i have given both cards model name and number RALINK RT3090BC4 and Broadcom BCM94313HMGB
[19:23] <bekks> irule: It is pointless to skip that when using encryption.
[19:23] <irule> is it impossible?
[19:23] <wN> irule: yes
[19:23] <wN> irule: man cryptsetup
[19:23] <nibbler> in cryptsetup / luks - is there any way to decrypt two volumes at once, with one passphrase?
[19:24] <z_Chanshark> anyone happen to know how to fix ndiswarpper, so i can get wifi working again
[19:24] <nibbler> irule: what is encryption good for, if there is no key to decrypt?
[19:24] <nibbler> irule: you can have a remote-decryptable server, during boot you'd have to ssh to it to enter the password
[19:24] <modifier> bekks: how to find which card is better ? i have given both cards model name and number RALINK RT3090BC4 and Broadcom BCM94313HMGB
[19:25] <z_Chanshark> test them modifier
[19:25] <irule> I use a n ssh key for password free login and more security, a server that needs me to be tere is pointless becuase I travel a lot
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> modifier  try both, then decide which you prefer more
[19:25] <modifier> z_Chanshark: MonkeyDust how ??
[19:25] <kieppie> happy new year all
[19:25] <z_Chanshark> plug them in?
[19:26] <petergk> happey
[19:26] <adam_8606>  Hi, how can I paste C code into libreoffice writer with syntax highlighting? I asked in #libreoffice but no response. Thanks
[19:26] <z_Chanshark> or you can do research of the web modifier
[19:26] <sosby> Would anyone know how (or point me in the direction) as to how to set up a bridge to allow a LXC container to send/recieve from/to an outside ip
[19:26]  * washuu_de is back (gone 00:02:30)
[19:26] <Ziber> I'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu. I want to safely extend my Ubuntu partition from 50G to 100G. What's the safest way to do this?
[19:26] <Slart> adam_8606: not sure if you can.. there might be other programs that can create html files or similar though
[19:26] <kieppie> I've just set up a new OS (12.04) from the mini.iso - all looks good, but I don't have any video-out (VGA or DVI). I'm able to log in via SSH, but bupkis on the TTY's
[19:27] <Slart> adam_8606: or it has to be copy/paste to libreoffice?
[19:27] <bishops> hello, i have a problem with trying to connect a logitech k810 keyboard through bluetooth to ubuntu 12.10. bluetooth seems to crash or to give error message. Anyone can help?
[19:27] <z_Chanshark> Ziber:  just expand it
[19:27] <modifier> z_Chanshark: MonkeyDust any application or software which tests card while plugged in and outputs some result ?
[19:27] <adam_8606> slart: copy/paste
[19:27] <kieppie> headless setup - no WM/DM
[19:27] <z_Chanshark> modifier:  i know there is a website that test the speed
[19:27] <bekks> modifier: Personally, I'll never buy something again thats driven by a RealTek chipset :)
[19:27] <z_Chanshark> just google it or somthing modifier
[19:27] <Ziber> z_Chanshark: Expand what? I'd have to downsize the win7 parition first...
[19:28] <Slart> adam_8606: not sure what this is but it sounds promising... http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/03/syntax-highlighter-extension-for.html
[19:28] <z_Chanshark> oh
[19:28] <usr13> Ziber: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[19:28] <z_Chanshark> uum delete some stuff on win 7 so you get "free space" then partion it
[19:29] <adam_8606> slart: thanks
[19:29] <Slart> adam_8606: you're welcome
[19:29] <z_Chanshark> Ziber:  i just use a external hard drive with 15tb of space
[19:29] <modifier> bekks: hmm....can u suggest inbetween both cards....RALINK RT3090BC4 and Broadcom BCM94313HMGB......i had a year of struggle with broadcom though, now with 12.10 its driver is lil bit ok
[19:29] <modifier> z_Chanshark: ok
[19:29] <Guest8729> Can someone help with this error please: http://paste.debian.net/223807/
[19:29] <z_Chanshark> i still cant figure out the wifi problem >.<
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Guest8729  wrong channel, ask in #debian
[19:30] <disharmonic> 15TB? you must have a time machine :P
[19:30] <z_Chanshark> disharmonic:  meh my server room holds 601 tb
[19:31] <Guest8729> MonkeyDust: They don't know. I need help.
[19:31] <Kylar> bonjour
[19:31] <Guest8729> It's the same system.
[19:31] <Kylar> je cherche un développeur
[19:31] <wN> my exeternal usb has 7tb with space for growth
[19:31] <Kylar> VB
[19:31] <disharmonic> z_Chanshark, but it doesn't have a single HDD with 15TB of capacity ;)
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest8729  if ubuntu were the same as debian, there would be no need for a different name, you're in the wrong channel
[19:31] <Slart> adam_8606: this one might work as well.. copy/paste to the web-page, select hightlight style, copy paste again to OOO
[19:32] <Guest8729> MonkeyDust: Debian-based.
[19:32] <angs> I installed wubi a month ago. Recently when ubuntu 12.10 is started, I don't have any network interface working. During the start up I get "booting system without full network configuration" warning. how can I solve the problem?
[19:32] <adam_8606> slart: will try that now thanks
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest8729  ask in #debian and wait a little longer for an answer, you won't get it here
[19:33] <Guest8729> I have waited an hour.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest8729  know when to stop
[19:33] <k1l_> !debian | Guest8729
[19:33] <Guest8729> Thanks for the help.
[19:34] <z_Chanshark> Guest8729 i have waited for 6 hours so far so calm
[19:34] <Altair> HI
[19:34] <Altair> WHERE ARE THE IRCOPS
[19:34] <petergk> ehh
[19:34] <riderplus> hi. the mounted drive appears in the nautilus window as "38 Gb Volume" when I am normal user. if i start nautilus with gksu nautilus, the name of the mounted drive is displayed correctly
[19:34] <petergk> debian developers can help in debian related issues
[19:35] <k1l_> Altair: no need for caps. do you mean the #ubuntu-ops ?
[19:35] <Slart> Altair: in #ubuntu-ops, go show them how good you are with the caps =)
[19:35] <riderplus> any clue?
[19:35] <Altair> Ok
[19:35] <petergk> if an ubuntu user is not enough patient it's not representing the community
[19:35] <z_Chanshark> riderplus:  whats wrong?
[19:35] <Altair> personne parle français
[19:35] <Slart> !fr | Altair
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[19:36] <Altair> haha
[19:36] <riderplus> z_Chanshark: the mounted device is shown as "38Gb"
[19:36] <Altair> bien fait pour toi MonkeyDust
[19:36] <riderplus> it's mounted under "/media/Free"
[19:36] <Miebster|atwork> Is it suppose to be hard to drag my mouse from 1 screen to the other? It gets stuck on the edge between them and requires about 2 inches of push before it moves.
[19:36] <k1l_> Altair: please keep this channel clear for support.
[19:36] <z_Chanshark> what should it be riderplus
[19:36] <riderplus> if i start nautilus as normal user, the name of the device is "38Gb"
[19:36] <Altair> ok i try to speak in english
[19:36] <Altair> xd
[19:36] <Slart> Miebster|atwork: isn't that a feature? something like edge snapping?
[19:36] <riderplus> if i start gksu nautilus, the device's name looks like "Free"
[19:37] <riderplus> z_Chanshark: any clue why is that so?
[19:37] <Slart> Miebster|atwork: there are so many settings in compiz, you might want to check  (using compizconfig-settingsmanager)
[19:37] <z_Chanshark> no idea but i think if you change the name it will fix it
[19:37] <riderplus> z_Chanshark: how can I do that?
[19:37] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to send HTML email using command line
[19:37] <z_Chanshark> rename?
[19:37] <riderplus> rename doesn't work
[19:37] <z_Chanshark> hmmm
[19:38] <z_Chanshark> are you duel booting
[19:38] <riderplus> no
[19:38] <nyuszika7h> hi, I've used some workspace switcher some years ago that displayed a cube and rotated that. anyone know a similar one?
[19:38] <nyuszika7h> I don't remember its name.
[19:38] <Slart> dhanasekaran: there are many command line email-clients.. although I'm not sure which one support html-mail if you mean anything other than typing the html-source yourself
[19:38] <petergk> nyuszika7h: early compiz
[19:38] <riderplus> z_Chanshark: any clue?
[19:38] <Slart> !cube
[19:38] <Miebster|atwork> Slart: is it normal to have the launchbar on both monitors?
[19:38] <z_Chanshark> well riderplus  im not sure what to tell you then
[19:38] <nyuszika7h> ah
[19:38] <petergk> dhanasekaran inline paste of the html code?
[19:39] <Slart> Miebster|atwork: I don't really know, I haven't tried using more than one monitor myself
[19:39] <petergk> nyuszika7h: gnome had it with compiz options as I rememeber
[19:39] <ztevrca> why jdwonloader not in repo?
[19:39] <modifier> bekks: flashplugin-installer is better or adobe-flashplugin for flash install ?
[19:39] <dhanasekaran> petergk: yes
[19:40] <petergk> dhanasekaran: you need an example I think... try to check a mail in emacs ot mutt...
[19:41] <ztevrca> why jdownloader is not in reposoriterotrzy?
[19:41] <xangua> modifier: well adobe-flashplugin from partner repo comes with a desktop app to manage flash settings
[19:42] <z_Chanshark> can someone help me,  i cant get ndiswrapper to work i keep getting this error when trying to install my wifi drivers FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[19:42] <xangua> ztevrca: if you go to jdownloader site you'll see instructions to add their ppa repository
[19:42] <ztevrca> hi ty for answer but why not in official reposorirory, it's an awesome apps
[19:42] <modifier> xangua: actually i downloaded adobe-flashplugin from adobe.com and it opened via software center for install and it removed flashplugin-installer
[19:43] <marwy> does ubuntu's live cd automatically mount partitions?
[19:43] <petergk> marwy: not
[19:43] <Name141> why isn't the 4670 drivers picked up on 12.10 like the LTS?
[19:43] <z_Chanshark> Name141:  what are you using to install them ndiswrapper?
[19:43] <marwy> but is there an easy way to do that?
[19:44] <Name141> z_Chanshark: "additional drivers"
[19:44] <Name141> or hardware drivers, or whatever
[19:44] <z_Chanshark> oh, nvm i thought you were having the same problem as me
[19:44] <petergk> marwy: nautilus as I know helps ya
[19:44] <modifier> xangua: ??
[19:44] <z_Chanshark> im on day 3 of trying to get my wifi to work lol
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> marwy  load the live CD, then click on the partition's icon in nautilus
[19:45] <marwy> well it's for my cusin so any kind of terminal is not okay, thx guys
[19:45] <Miebster|atwork> How do I remove the 2nd launcher from my 2nd monitor?
[19:48] <modifier> bekks: i downloaded adobe-flashplugin from adobe.com and it opened via software center for install and it removed flashplugin-installer....is it ok or better and will it receive updates ?
[19:48] <adam_8606> slart: the extension coooder works perfect for highlighting --- Thanks
[19:49] <ElectricPrism> how do I access my samba share from windows ?
[19:49] <compdoc> open the network and browse
[19:50] <ElectricPrism> my computer isn't listed, do I need to install a windows dns app?
[19:50] <compdoc> or, click start> type in \\server_ip\share
[19:50] <tgs3> kirkland: when someone sees double folders and file in own home, while mounted encfs, then something is wrong right? this happens in what situation?
[19:51] <chai_> hi, i'm running ubuntu on an external usb on a laptop. if i close the lid and open it later, i get a console screen with disk access errors (of the usb disk). is there any way to effectively sleep/suspend ubuntu when installed on a usb drive?
[19:51] <compdoc> dns is nice beause names are easier to rememebr
[19:51] <ixio2b> http://www.ltsp.org/  <-- does anyone know whether this would allow a connection windows to a desktop environment?
[19:51] <ixio2b> from windows to a ubuntu desktop environment *
[19:53] <Steven4242> hello
[19:53] <jhutchins_wk> ixio2: That's not what it's for.
[19:53] <Steven4242> is this ubuntu help?
[19:53] <compdoc> yes
[19:53] <TheLordOfTime> Steven4242, yes, ask your question.
[19:54] <Miebster> Okay I really need a way to turn off the Unity launch bar on my second monitor.  Id like to just get rid of it or use something other than unity if it cant get rid of it.
[19:55] <Steven4242> I am a complete linux newbie so please bare with me. I was upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 and during the installation it asked me if it should kill something called KDM.. I clicked yes and then it booted me into terminal I believe and then the computer did nothing so I reset it and now when I boot into ubuntu it goes haywire.. I assume I have to reinstall but I dont know how
[19:55] <Steven4242> I am currently typing from my laptop so I can access my main computer at the same time
[19:55] <Feedhurley> Hello, I tried to format one of my disks and gparted said it was successful and at first it looks like it did, but I can not do anything with the partitions, neither create or copy any files/folders in it :/ what should I do?
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> ixio2: ltsp allows a central copy of Linux to run on light-weight "terminal" display, with the actual execution on the central server.
[19:55] <compdoc> Steven4242, do you have files you need to rescue?
[19:56] <Steven4242> sorry to sound like an idiot but I don't know?
[19:56] <z_Chanshark> can someone help me,  i cant get ndiswrapper to work i keep getting this error when trying to install my wifi drivers FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> ixio2: If you want to access a Linux desktop from Windows you need an RDP or VNC server on the linux box.
[19:56] <Rienzilla> pff I really can't find my way around the new grub.d setup
[19:56] <robotfuel> Miebster: you can turn off the unity launch bar on your second monitor by going to system-settings and then display
[19:57] <compdoc> Steven4242, I mean docs and music files, etc? doesnt sound like it
[19:57] <Laibsch> How can I completely deinstall the universal access features?  I know technically how to do that but I am not sure in what package they are hiding.  I'm talking about the sticky keys in particular. I run precise unity.
[19:57] <Miebster> robotfuel: No I cant, that dialog doens't even have my second monitor listed (even though its on and working)
[19:57] <Steven4242> compdoc, oh all of that is on my windows partition however linux is on its own and so I guess it's ok
[19:58] <compdoc> Steven4242, personally, I think 12.04 is better, but you'll need to boot the install cd and either repair it, or install fresh
[19:58] <Miebster> robotfuel: I think I figured it out, the nividia settings made my display look like 1 big one
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> ixio2  could jolicloud be what you want/need ?
[19:59] <Steven4242> compdoc ah ok well I have downloaded the iso from ubuntu so I will burn it to a cd and try it out
[19:59] <compdoc> cool
[19:59] <Steven4242> thank you very much for your help!
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> Steven4242: kdm is the display/desktop/login manager.  It's what prompts you for username and password when you start up.
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> Steven4242: It sounds like something got stuck with the GUI.
[20:01] <Steven4242> jhutchins_wk, oh.. well I think I just messed up the whole process of going from 12.04 to 12.10. I shouldn't have restarted my computer although I was just stuck on a dos looking screen with nothing happening and my HDD led on my computer was blinking anymore so I guess something went wrong
[20:01] <riderplus> how can I display desktop icons in Unity?
[20:01] <Steven4242> I have downloaded the 12.10 ISO and will burn it and install it.. I was hoping for some magical terminal command but.. yeah I guess I will just have to reinstall and reconfigure it all again. no biggie though I guess
[20:03] <riderplus> i have checked show desktop icons in dconf
[20:03] <riderplus> why doesn't it work?
[20:05] <Altair> !fr AlanBell
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> Steven4242: You should be able to do aptitude (or apt-get) -f install and it should pick up wherever it got lost.
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> riderplus: Maybe you don't have any?
[20:07] <z_Chanshark> can someone help me,  i cant get ndiswrapper to work i keep getting this error when trying to install my wifi drivers FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[20:08] <jhutchins_wk> z_Chanshark: Perhaps you should consider installing ndiswrapper.
[20:09] <invariant> I have unallocated space following an lvm2 partition. How can I resize that lvm2 partition?
[20:09] <z_Chanshark> it is installed
[20:09] <Steven4242> is there a ubuntu iso that burns to a regular cd?
[20:09] <Steven4242> it seems so close to it
[20:10] <z_Chanshark> yes their is
[20:10] <Steven4242> z_Chanshark: where is it located?
[20:10] <kieppie1> is it possible to push my headless/CLI TTY's to all display outputs?
[20:11] <z_Chanshark> Steven4242:  on the website
[20:11] <Steven4242> well I downloaded the iso but its 760~ mb
[20:11] <z_Chanshark> you just download ubuntu.ios and then you burn it to a disk
[20:11] <z_Chanshark> then get a disk that can fit it
[20:12] <Steven4242> I don't have one sadly :( only a 700 mb regular CD
[20:12] <pprtzq> how can i use a newer kernel than the one apt has?
[20:12] <pprtzq> because im on 3.5 and i need 3.7
[20:12] <Steven4242> wait can I just copy the contents of the iso to a usb stick and install it from recovery mode terminal?
[20:12] <Steven4242> is that possible?
[20:12] <pprtzq> i see there are newer kernels available for ubunt: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[20:13] <AlanBell> o/ Altair whats up?
[20:13] <sherlockh> installing arch
[20:13] <Wulf> hi
[20:13] <Altair> nothing AlanBell
[20:13] <AlanBell> ok
[20:13] <sherlockh> oops wrong channel
[20:13] <sherlockh> sorry
[20:13] <z_Chanshark> jhutchins_wk:  so yea i have it installed but its still not workin
[20:13] <z_Chanshark> *working
[20:13] <Wulf> How can I change default settings of 12.04 login screen? I want everyone to use the "ubuntu 2d" session
[20:14] <xangua> Wulf clic on the icon next to the username and you can set the default session there
[20:14] <xangua> in the login screen*
[20:15] <Wulf> xangua: and does that apply to every user? Can I remove the setting so the users cannot change it?
[20:15] <eutheria> when installing form the mini.iso it is asking for user details first, it used to be that you configured your partitions first, is it going to let me configure my partitions or blow away everything?
[20:16] <un2him> eutheria, you can always install inside of virtualbox first, to see what happens...i do that all the time
[20:16] <eutheria> un2him, i can't as i have nothing left
[20:16] <eutheria> this machine has almost no disk space
[20:17] <eutheria> the machine i am trying to recover would be my normal place for installing vm's
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> Steven4242: Download the netinstall image.
[20:18] <WeThePeople> where do the print to file pdfs go to in precise?
[20:18] <Steven4242> jhutchins_wk: thank you!
[20:18] <WeThePeople> in chrome
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> !ndiswrapper
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> z_Chanshark: Did you check there?
[20:19] <z_Chanshark> jhutchins_wk:  yes
[20:19] <z_Chanshark> jhutchins_wk:  i have go to the first 49 links about it on google
[20:19] <CoreyBR> is there screensavers in ubuntu?
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> z_Chanshark: Go through the steps on the ubuntu site again.
[20:20] <z_Chanshark> jhutchins_wk:  the reason it because its a bug #986064
[20:21] <KI4RO> Anyone had success getting a Windows PC to print to an Ubuntu printer?
[20:22] <riderplus> how can i add a desktop shortcut for a disk driver in unity?
[20:22] <riderplus> i mean...there's drag and drop for apps,
[20:22] <riderplus> but how to do it for disk drives?
[20:23] <stueng> ?metro
[20:23] <stueng> er
[20:23] <stueng> lol
[20:23] <orudie> what is the name of the utility that makes all the menues appear at the very top ?
[20:23] <stueng> not metro.. whats the ubuntu desktop thing called? the one everytone hates?
[20:23] <orudie> I want it disabled if its possible
[20:24] <KsM> stueng: unity/gnome3
[20:24] <Willdude123> How can I find the path of OpenJDK?
[20:24] <syrius> which javac ?
[20:24] <sosby> Would anyone know how (or point me in the direction) as to how to set up a bridge to allow a LXC container to send/recieve from/to an outside ip
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> Willdude123  with which
[20:24] <stueng> KsM no.. the thing that makes the "start" type button
[20:24] <Hwkiller> orudie: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[20:24] <stueng> looks all pretty
[20:24] <riderplus> does anyone know how to do it?
[20:24] <blami> Willdude123: it will be in /usr/lib/jvm afaik
[20:24] <stueng> ?? unity
[20:25] <stueng> !unity
[20:25] <stueng> !notunity
[20:25] <WHAT_UP> say i have an old version of ubuntu installed on a computer, and i want to just install a new version of ubuntu over it (no need for the current data). is it possible to somehow net install ubuntu without resorting to using a disc?
[20:25] <stueng> WHAT_UP apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:25] <riderplus> so nobody knows...
[20:25] <riderplus> super
[20:25] <WHAT_UP> stueng: no
[20:25] <pianoman> hi i tried installing ubuntu via disk and when i hit the button to continue to install inside windows 8, it told me to eject the disc and press enter. it then restarted into windows 8 without installing it. what happened?
[20:25] <toordog> is anyone played with FreeIPA ipa-client on ubuntu?
[20:26] <Slart> stueng, WHAT_UP. dist-upgrade won't upgrade the ubuntu version
[20:26] <Cakejoke> does anyone know of anything that could prevent ubuntu from connecting to https sites?
[20:26] <WHAT_UP> Cakejoke: bad root certificate?
[20:26] <Slart> WHAT_UP: how old is the "old version"?
[20:27] <WHAT_UP> Slart: i think it's intrepid?
[20:27] <z_Chanshark> i have ubuntu 3 :D
[20:27] <riderplus> WHAT_UP: do you know?
[20:27] <WHAT_UP> it's the first one which had unity
[20:27] <Willdude123> Installed OpenJDK, don't think it's there.
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> WHAT_UP  type lsb_release -sd
[20:28] <Toph2> Cakejoke,,, i had that once,, it was my router
[20:28] <Slart> WHAT_UP: if you want to do a "regular" upgrade you will have to mess with the repositories since intrepid is past it's end of life.. not sure if there are some clever way of doing a net install using the existing install.. installing from an usb stick isn't an option?
[20:28] <Cakejoke> it doesn't happen on windows or anything else in the network though
[20:28] <WHAT_UP> MonkeyDust: it's natty
[20:28] <Steven4242> jhutchins_wk: awesome that idea worked and I am currently reinstalling. Thank you so much for your help! I really really appreciate it!
[20:28] <Toph2> Cakejoke,,, just certain urls?
[20:29] <Cakejoke> seems to be all https i've tried
[20:29] <eutheria> is there a rescue cd?
[20:29] <eutheria> i am sure there used to be one
[20:29] <Toph2> Cakejoke,,, have you a firewall on the Ubuntu machine?
[20:29] <pianoman> hi i tried installing ubuntu via disk and when i hit the button to continue to install inside windows 8, it told me to eject the disc and press enter. it then restarted into windows 8 without installing it. what happened?
[20:29] <Cakejoke> i didn't install any
[20:30] <Cakejoke> i'm on win atm, gimme a sec to reboot
[20:30] <Toph2> Cakejoke,,, and you can ping your router?
[20:30] <orudie> echo "export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0" > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/81ubuntumenuproxy
[20:30] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  can you explaine the steps you took before you pressed enter
[20:30] <sam555> hello all!
[20:30] <Willdude123> Anyone know how I can find the OpenJDK path?
[20:30] <orudie> this did not disable menues in unity
[20:30] <orudie> any help plz
[20:30] <sam555> i need to replace my interface file because it is not working
[20:31] <sam555> how do I do this without lubuntu booting and crashing when it tries to make it work
[20:31] <daftykins> sam555: network interfaces?
[20:31] <sam555> is there a way to skip the network authentication part so I canget in
[20:31] <sam555> daftykins: yes
[20:31] <Willdude123> Anyone?
[20:31] <pianoman> i installed windows 8. i put the iso for ubuntu onto a disk and rebooted. i selected the drive i wanted and i went into ubuntu setup. i hit install ubuntu, connected to a network, and hit install inside windows 8. and then it gave me that message.
[20:31] <orudie> in Ubuntu 12.04 I want all menues for all applications to appear in the application itself, but not in the unity at the top. Is there a way to fix it ?
[20:31] <Eagleman> Trying to start with a fresh install of postfix, however dkpg  dpkg-reconfigure postfix  wont remove my old config files, any idea what i am doing wrong?
[20:31] <daftykins> sam555: all you really need is "auto lo" then "auto eth0 inet dhcp"
[20:31] <sam555> daftykins: right now I'm using an lubuntu usb live disk to try to remove it, but I don't have access to root on the hdd
[20:32] <sam555> daftykins: but how do I change it before i reboot again
[20:32] <WHAT_UP> why doesn't the minimal install cd just ping canonical's website to find out what the latest version is, rather than being hardcoded to download a certain one?
[20:32] <z_Chanshark> hmmm
[20:32] <daftykins> sam555: er just sudo -s on the liveusb to modify
[20:32] <bfri> i just installed maple 16 but can't find the progam launcher where can i find it?
[20:32] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  did it like load it
[20:32] <z_Chanshark> like did it take time
[20:32] <sam555> daftykins: kk
[20:33] <pianoman> no it took no time at all. 5 seconds after i hit continue it told me to eject the disk and hit enter. which i did.
[20:33] <z_Chanshark> like did it take less then 5 seconds
[20:34] <WHAT_UP> bfri: does just running maple work in the terminal? if so, try "which maple". otherwise, look for something like .maple in your home directory probably
[20:34] <sam555> daftykins: how do i get to /etc/network from the live disk to the hdd?
[20:34] <Eagleman> Trying to start with a fresh install of postfix, however dkpg  dpkg-reconfigure postfix  wont remove my old config files, any idea what i am doing wrong?
[20:34] <daftykins> sam555: you'll need to mount the partition first. do you know which one will be root? (/) did you manually or auto partition?
[20:34] <orudie> is there a way to make the menu items for apps appear in the app window, but not all the way at the top ?
[20:34] <sam555> daftykins: when I go to media/lubuntu/<numbers for hdd>/ it does not have access to the root drive
[20:34] <Slart> Eagleman: there isn't a switch to restart with clean config files?
[20:35] <bfri> what_up how do i run it from the terminal?
[20:35] <daftykins> sam555: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[20:35] <pianoman> z_Chanshark yes pretty much. according to the instructions i should have been able to go through more options
[20:35] <sam555> daftykins: so I need to mount the /root partition specifically? because i can get into my home directory on the hdd
[20:35] <WHAT_UP> bfri: try opening up the terminal and just typing in "maple"
[20:35] <Eagleman> a switch like Slart ?
[20:35] <sam555> daftykins: from the live disk
[20:35] <WHAT_UP> bfri: does it work?
[20:35] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  few things first check if the disk is installed
[20:35] <bfri> no
[20:35] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  not installed *scratched
[20:35] <bfri> what_up no
[20:36] <Slart> Eagleman: I don't know.. I'm browsing the man pages at the moment.. didn't really see anything
[20:36] <pianoman> z_Chanshark no its not its a brand new disk
[20:36] <Cakejoke> kay, don't mind me, a reboot did the trick :P
[20:36] <daftykins> sam555: root is just /, /root is the root user's /home equivalent :) just to be confusing :>
[20:36] <bfri> what_up now im not sure if the install worked
[20:36] <WHAT_UP> bfri: okay. then in the terminal, try doing something like "ls -al | grep maple"
[20:36] <Eagleman> i've been there to Slart, i expected the command to reload everything, so i can begin from scratch
[20:36] <WHAT_UP> bfri: does it give any output?
[20:36] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  second when you burned it to a disk is it a .ios file and did you burn it and not use it like a flash drive
[20:36] <Slart> Eagleman: yes, that's what I would expect as well
[20:37] <GabMus_> hello
[20:37] <Slart> Eagleman: have you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[20:37] <GabMus_> I have a problem with gnome shell, could someone here help me?
[20:37] <bfri> what_up i just pasted ur command and got nothing
[20:38] <WHAT_UP> bfri: hmm. then either maple did not install or was installed to a different directory
[20:38] <humberos>  NickServ identify dora05
[20:38] <bfri> what_up ok ill try to install again
[20:38] <pianoman> z_Chanshark no i read on the ubuntu support site that burning it as an iso was incorrect.
[20:38] <z_Chanshark> I have a problem with wifi can someone help me i cant get it to work because i need to use a ndiswrapper and there is the bug (#986064) is there a way around it
[20:39] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  you don't use it like a flashdrive
[20:39] <z_Chanshark> i burned it and it worked
[20:39] <pianoman> what did you do after you burned it?
[20:40] <z_Chanshark> ploped it in my diskdrive and restarted
[20:40] <pianoman> did you have to select a drive?
[20:40] <z_Chanshark> pianoman: i partishened a  space for it (15 tb)
[20:41] <z_Chanshark> wait pianoman  are you trying to duel boo
[20:41] <daftykins> pianoman: is your BIOS boot order correct?
[20:41] <z_Chanshark> *boot
[20:41] <pianoman> yes i'm trying to dual boot. and daftykins i'm not sure how to check that.
[20:41] <z_Chanshark> partision your hhd
[20:41] <daftykins> pianoman: is it a laptop/desktop ?
[20:41] <Eagleman> Slart i guess that worked :)
[20:41] <pianoman> laptop
[20:41] <z_Chanshark> give it like 10 gb
[20:42] <pianoman> partition the c drive?
[20:42] <z_Chanshark> yea
[20:42] <z_Chanshark> im quad-booting :D
[20:42] <daftykins> pianoman: most manufacturers, you hit F2 or delete whilst the brand logo / POST screen shows, then you look for boot options. sometimes there's a key like F8 or F10 to give you a boot device list instead of entering BIOS first
[20:42] <Slart> Eagleman: great =)
[20:43] <daftykins> pianoman: is Windows or whatever your other OS is, already present? if so, is it already installed to the full size of the drive, or have you installed it to a small partition?
[20:43] <z_Chanshark> its f11 for boot menu
[20:43] <pianoman> ok. i've got a huge c drive so that wouldn't be a problem. daftykins yeah i can get into there. once i'm there what do i do? and its present, and no its not to the full size. there is no other partition.
[20:44] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  how much space do you have fre
[20:44] <pianoman> and i hit f12 for mine. but yeah.
[20:44] <pianoman> like 400 gb
[20:44] <Eagleman> ANy good guides around for setting up an internet mail system with relay_agent ?
[20:44] <daftykins> pianoman: F12 give you a boot menu? with CD/DVD on the list?
[20:44] <pianoman> daftykins yes
[20:44] <sam555> daftykins: got it working!
[20:44] <orudie> hi. I just installed putty in ubuntu 12.04 . How can I start multiple putty sessions ?
[20:44] <daftykins> sam555: cool :)
[20:44] <orudie> similar to how it is in windows
[20:45] <daftykins> orudie: why would you use putty in Linux when SSH functionality is native and can be used from any terminal?
[20:45] <orudie> in putty application, I noticed that I can't right click - duplicate session
[20:45] <z_Chanshark> I have a problem with wifi can someone help me i cant get it to work because i need to use a ndiswrapper and there is the bug (#986064) is there a way around it
[20:45] <orudie> daftykins: I am new to ubuntu desktop. I need to be able to save sessions
[20:46] <MadN3ss> lol
[20:46] <limpc> hi I'm having trouble with ubuntu 12.10 - I upgraded my motherboard, and i see an error during boot up but can't catch what it is with - however, my usb keyboard/mouse die during ubuntu boot up.  (works in bios, but numlock light goes out as soon as ubuntu initializes)
[20:46] <daftykins> orudie: for what purpose?
[20:46] <daftykins> limpc: does a liveCD work?
[20:46] <z_Chanshark> limpc:  are they wireless
[20:46] <orudie> daftykins: need to be able to save SSH sesssions. We have many servers here
[20:46] <limpc> daftykins, it would probably work but I don't have a livecd
[20:46] <pianoman> daftykins whenever i get to the boot menu i can get ubuntu to get started but it doesn't finish correctly. is that partition needed for it to install correctly?
[20:47] <z_Chanshark> limpc:  is your mouse and keyboard wireless
[20:47] <limpc> z_Chanshark, no
[20:47] <limpc> they're usb as i said
[20:47] <z_Chanshark> i have a wireless usb mouse and keyboard
[20:47] <z_Chanshark> just saying
[20:47] <MadN3ss> is anyone else INLOVE with the new one direction CD?
[20:47] <daftykins> limpc: is it beyond the realms of possibility to make one, to help diagnose your problem?
[20:47] <MadN3ss> The boys are all grown up, and ohso sexy
[20:47] <limpc> I'm not using a dongle, its just direct usb.
[20:48] <daftykins> !offtopic | MadN3ss
[20:48] <DJones> MadN3ss: Wrong channel for that
[20:48] <limpc> daftykins, no, i can make one, just wondering if theres a way to fix it without?
[20:48] <limpc> does ubuntu not detect new mb chipsets?
[20:48] <daftykins> limpc: well my first idea was to read logs from the boot process from a live system, sooo
[20:48] <MadN3ss> One directions supports Ubuntu. I'm not offtopic at all
[20:48] <MadN3ss> one direction and ubuntu go hand in hand
[20:48] <MadN3ss> read a book
[20:48] <daftykins> troll.
[20:49] <z_Chanshark> MadN3ss:  what do you mean?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> MadN3ss  not here, please
[20:49] <pianoman> daftykins whenever i get to the boot menu i can get ubuntu to get started but it doesn't finish correctly. is that partition needed for it to install correctly?
[20:49] <z_Chanshark> im confused what just happened
[20:49] <MadN3ss> You guys are so hell bent over this being strictly ubuntu
[20:49] <daftykins> pianoman: is the screen blanking and failing to let you get to the ubuntu desktop?
[20:50] <MadN3ss> but even if it's related it not allowed?
[20:50] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  yes if you want to duel boot
[20:50] <MadN3ss> your topics are so misleading
[20:50] <MadN3ss> get over you and your geeky computer shit
[20:50] <WHAT_UP> i'm trying to netinstall using a dvd, but it's been stuck on "Retrieving block-modules-3.2.0-23-generic-pae-di" for a few minutes. I see online that this is a ~300k package, whereas my download speed is generally around 10 MB/s. What gives?
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> MadN3ss  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:50] <daftykins> MadN3ss: there's an offtopic channel. get over it and go away.
[20:50] <limpc> daftykins, like to determine what the problem is caused by? I'm 90% sure it's due to a different usb chipset.  but seeing as I can't even get to a command prompt I'm guessing I have to have a livecd anyway :/
[20:50] <DJones> MadN3ss: If you've got an Ubuntu support question, please ask it, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:50]  * MadN3ss hands daftykins a bridge
[20:50] <z_Chanshark> MadN3ss:  last time i checked your comment was not a question :D
[20:51] <MadN3ss> YOU GET OVER IT
[20:51] <MadN3ss> DO IT
[20:51] <Miebster> How can I mount a CIFS windows share without typing in a plaintext password into something?
[20:51] <pianoman> will it automatically detect it? and is 10 gb the most i'll need? or more?
[20:52] <daftykins> limpc: USB is a standard. the Linux kernel isn't gonna trip up over a motherboard swap unless there's a bug. if the install isn't fully up to date and there's a bug that's fixed, you could then update in a chroot from a liveCD / liveUSB flash drive
[20:52] <z_Chanshark> when first setting mine up i did 10 gb
[20:52] <limpc> daftykins, ah. yea thats what i was trying to get to a command line to do.  thanks, ill make a livecd
[20:52] <daftykins> Miebster: the general approach is to put that plaintext password into /root/.smbpass and chmod it so another user couldn't read it anyway. no alternative unless you make the share guest readable
[20:52] <z_Chanshark> when i installed it i did other install and did it manually
[20:53] <Steven4242> so I have linux installed.. but no ubuntu it is just terminal :/
[20:53] <daftykins> limpc: np!
[20:53] <pianoman> and this is all on windows 8 right/
[20:53] <pianoman> ?
[20:53] <Steven4242> well I have ubuntu but yeah
[20:53] <Steven4242> no desktop
[20:53] <jgodbout> How can I disable resume/hibernate on GRUB?
[20:53] <z_Chanshark> yes but you have to make sure you choose free space other wise you will delete windows 8
[20:53] <jgodbout> Is there a command like noresume for GRUB2?
[20:53] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  i suggest watch a tutorial on youtube if its your first time duel booting
[20:53] <limpc> Steven4242, did you install the server version of ubuntu?
[20:54] <daftykins> pianoman: ah if your windows 8 install is an EFI one, you may run into addition difficulty. you can check this if you boot into windows and run diskmgmt.msc
[20:54] <Miebster> daftykins: still insecure though right? anyone with access to the drive could get my password? or any admin on the machine?
[20:54] <Steven4242> limpc: well I selected Ubuntu Desktop in the installation screen
[20:54] <pianoman> can you direct me to an effecient video z_Chanshark?
[20:54] <daftykins> Miebster: they'd have to have root/sudo access
[20:54] <z_Chanshark> yea sure pianoman
[20:54] <pianoman> daftykins is that through command prompt?
[20:55] <usbu> can any one tell me how to change the read only permission of flash drives ?
[20:55] <pianoman> i'm kind of new to all this
[20:55] <daftykins> pianoman: nah it's a GUI app, diskmgmt.msc is the shortcut to type into the 'run' dialogue box
[20:55] <Steven4242> limpc: I did install using the minimal iso thingy so I could burn it to a CD though
[20:55] <pianoman> gotcha. i'll try it
[20:55] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:55] <pianoman> 12.10
[20:55] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: was it mounted read-only?
[20:55] <Miebster> daftykins: a live cd can read all of the files on the hard drive though?
[20:55] <z_Chanshark> 12.04 precise pangolin?
[20:55] <z_Chanshark> oh
[20:55] <Steven4242> when I press CTRL ALT F7 it shows just a yellow underscore that flashes
[20:56] <pianoman> will that make a big difference?
[20:56] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : I am using 12.04, it is not mounted
[20:56] <z_Chanshark> not really
[20:56] <pianoman> daftykins ok i ran it. what am i looking for?
[20:57] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: I mean flash drive
[20:57] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  just youtube and it look though the comments to see if its alot of good reviews
[20:57] <daftykins> pianoman: can you screenshot it and upload to an image hosting site like imgur.com ?
[20:57] <jgodbout> Is there a way to disable resume from hibernation from GRUB or otherwise? I cant boot after a failed hibernation..
[20:57] <winb> fucking chess.com fuck
[20:57] <pianoman> yes.
[20:57] <daftykins> Miebster: yep. depends how paranoid you are for someone booting up your system without your permission and finding it.
[20:57] <Tm_T> winb: please watch your language
[20:58] <usbu> ubuntu-tester:yeah.. its actually a memmory card, ihave been copying some files to it. i cancelled the process while copying. now I am unable to mount it.
[20:58] <pianoman> http://imgur.com/SBcgA
[20:58] <winb> Tm_T: wrong channel
[20:58] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : it says that you cant change the permission for read only file system
[20:58] <Steven4242> so do I need to install something if it just boots to the black screen?
[20:58] <Miebster> daftykins: well this is a company and every user will mount the drive this way, so it has to be secure or users could just hop on someones computer and get passwords
[20:59] <Steven4242> in terminal that is
[20:59] <z_Chanshark> pianoman:  pm me so i can give you the link
[20:59] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: so it was remounted read-only due to errors
[20:59] <usbu> ubuntu-tester  : yeah.
[21:00] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: try unplug, plug, fsck
[21:00] <pianoman> http://imgur.com/SBcgA daftykins
[21:00] <agsel> if I disable some keyboard shortcuts under keyboard settings, how do I apply those changes? after disabling, I still can use those
[21:00] <daftykins> Miebster: if it's at a company, you SHOULD have the systems locked down to not be able to boot from any external devices? ;)
[21:00] <daftykins> pianoman: yeah sorry, seen it - it's not obvious. i'm trying to look up ways to confirm whether a given windows 8 installation is an EFI one or not
[21:01] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : fsck /dev/sdb1   ?
[21:01] <Miebster> daftkins: as in cant boot from dvd? heck no that would be really annoying when you have to fix a broken computer
[21:01] <daftykins> Miebster: how often do you foresee that happening? :) BIOS' should be password protected to stop users from being users.
[21:01] <orudie> how can I save ssh sessions in ubuntu 12.04 ? The terminal doesn't seem to have this ability
[21:02] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: yes
[21:02] <orudie> or should I install a different client ?
[21:02] <Miebster> daftykins: I think your company and my company are very different, the users have all the power here
[21:02] <daftykins> Miebster: so they all roll around booting alternative distributions to read each other's passwords?
[21:02] <usbu> ubuntu-tester :fsck /dev/sdb1 fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sdb1 You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[21:02] <z_Chanshark> can someone direct me how to get around bug #986064 "Module ndiswrapper not found" (and yes i have it installed)
[21:03] <Steven4242> oh and btw the answer to my question of booting into the black terminal screen is "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[21:03] <Miebster> daftykins: No, but you are trying to argue that its okay to store passwords in plaintext files
[21:03] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: sorry i forgot sudo
[21:03] <daftykins> Miebster: no, i'm providing you with courses of action that make it at least feasible. i don't like it anymore than you do. :) if you'd like for me to stop replying i can do that too?
[21:04] <Miebster> daftykins: if we dont like it, lets find a better way then
[21:04] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : root@dil:/dev# fsck /dev/sdb1 fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) fsck.ext2: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks... fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1  The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock i
[21:05] <orudie> how can I save ssh sessions in ubuntu 12.04 ? The terminal doesn't seem to have this ability
[21:05] <pianoman> daftykins what kind of partition does it need to be.
[21:05] <daftykins> pianoman: what options come up if you right click on the part where it says 'Disk 0' ?
[21:05] <usbu> ubuntu-tester  :  and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[21:05] <daftykins> Miebster: i know of none that include authentication
[21:05] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: do you know filesystem on usb drive?
[21:06] <pianoman> .the only available options it gives me is convert to dynamic disc, properties, or help
[21:06] <daftykins> Miebster: actually, the old 'connect to server' style would store passwords in the keyring i believe. you don't get filesystem level access to those types of shares though =/
[21:06] <Snicers-Work> Ok, I have an issue, I am trying to apt-get update ubuntu 10.10 but it is at EOL and I get 404 not found errors.
[21:06] <daftykins> pianoman: can you check properties? i'm curious to find references to either 'MBR' or 'GPT'
[21:07] <daftykins> pianoman: ah, right click -> properties, 'volumes' tab, 'Partition tyle'
[21:07] <daftykins> *style
[21:07] <pianoman> daftykins it says the partition style is mbr
[21:07] <daftykins> excellent
[21:07] <usbu> ubuntu-tester  : earlier it was FAT. but i tried to format it using different filesystems ext4,ext2 and fat32, none of them worked. At present I don't know in format the usb is.. :)
[21:08] <pianoman> what should i do now
[21:08] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: do you care about the remaining data on it?
[21:08] <daftykins> pianoman: you've not got any space for an Ubuntu install right now though. you'd need to maybe delete that 19.53GB 'OEM' partition - if you don't mind losing the laptop's restore functionality
[21:09] <orudie> how can I save ssh sessions in ubuntu 12.04 ? The terminal doesn't seem to have this ability
[21:09] <Rikstation> Can anyone reccomend a channel for an android-ubuntu related discussion, cant search
[21:09] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : nope. I already have a backup. I just want to make it working :)
[21:09] <C-T-N> i will get a ssd soon, i noticed that i must set up ubuntu for it. is it difficult?
[21:09] <OerHeks> Snicers-Work, time to upgrade that 2,5 year old version, or you can use old-versions update, but that is unsafe, you won't get the latest security updates
[21:09] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: if not, i suggest you reformat it with your camera
[21:09] <OerHeks> Snicers-Work, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:09] <daftykins> C-T-N: enabling TRIM should be pretty simple
[21:10] <C-T-N> it is just TRIM or does I need to set up something else?
[21:10] <C-T-N> *is it
[21:10] <daftykins> C-T-N: nothing i know of off hand
[21:10] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : You mean from the device ? It was in my android phone. Now it say no sd card detected :(
[21:10] <pianoman> what does that oem partition do? and i tried to make one and the program said that i needed to change one partition from logical to something else
[21:11] <C-T-N> ok
[21:11] <daftykins> pianoman: likely it lets you hit another function key on boot to restore the preinstalled Windows drive to factory fresh if something breaks
[21:12] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: so you tried to format it to FAT and it didn't work?
[21:12] <pianoman> ok. so what does the other partition for ubuntu need to be?
[21:12] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : Yeah. From both windows and Ubuntu.
[21:12] <C-T-N> can someone tell me a great iso burner on ubuntu? I don't need much settings..only burn :P
[21:12] <daftykins> pianoman: you just need to make space on the drive to install it, once you boot the CD/DVD
[21:13] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: maybe it is damaged
[21:13] <ubuntu-tester> C-T-N: brasero will do
[21:13] <culpn8r> im having issues with my fans running hot on my dell laptop with an ATI card -- any advice or fix?
[21:13] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : Is there any other way to fix it ?
[21:14] <Snicers-Work> Can ubuntu 10.10 no longer update using apt-get?
[21:14] <daftykins> Snicers-Work: no reason it shouldn't
[21:14] <daftykins> culpn8r: do you mean the fans are running permanently loud?
[21:14] <culpn8r> datykins: yes -- even when no programs are running
[21:14] <Ziber> Where can I find a good vncviewer client. The only way I can run it right now is from terminal...
[21:14] <Snicers-Work> daftykins I am getting Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main Sources   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.190 80]
[21:14] <Rikstation> Anyone know if you can access sd card from partiton image on an android debice
[21:15] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: perhaps, partially, if you have a lot of time and will
[21:15] <daftykins> culpn8r: are you using the proprietary driver?
[21:15] <pianoman> i never have an option to do that
[21:15] <C-T-N> ubuntu-tester,  ok
[21:15] <culpn8r> daftykins: the proprietary driver crashed unity and would not load so im using the open-source one
[21:15] <daftykins> pianoman: do you not get as far as the Ubuntu installer?
[21:15] <jgodbout> My laptop is failing to boot after trying to hibernate, with the error ¨resume: could not stat resume device file /dev/dm-0¨  (12.04).
[21:15] <z_Chanshark> can someone direct me how to get around bug #986064 "Module ndiswrapper not found" (and yes i have it installed)(i have been trying for 3 days now to get this to wook)
[21:15] <z_Chanshark> *work
[21:15] <jgodbout> Is it possible to force it to not try to resume?
[21:16] <OerHeks> Snicers-Work, read back please, i gave you a solution
[21:16] <usbu> ubuntu-tester :can you suggest me any websites or links that I can follow to do that ? :)
[21:16] <daftykins> jgodbout: you just need to delete the file afaik. tried googling 'delete resume file' ?
[21:16] <jgodbout> daftykins: thanks, ill try that
[21:16] <pianoman> no once i hit an option to install alongside windows 8 it goes to a eject disk and hit enter screen
[21:17] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: you can determine damaged area somehow, and partition the card so filesystem won't intersect with that area
[21:17] <daftykins> pianoman: when you first boot from the CD/DVD, do you get a menu? try choosing the 'check disc for defects' option if so
[21:17] <pianoman> i don't get any of that stuff
[21:18] <daftykins> pianoman: usually it's hidden behind a logo that you have to press a key at for it to show you this menu
[21:18] <ubuntu-tester> usbu: pm if you want
[21:18] <pianoman> alright i'll try that
[21:18] <usbu> ubuntu-tester : Yeah , whean I ran fsck it gave an error message : e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1  The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate sup
[21:18] <remontees> also you're fuck
[21:19] <IdleOne> !language | remontees
[21:19] <remontees> !!
[21:19] <usbu>  ubuntu-tester : doesn't that sound like bad sector is 8193 ?
[21:19] <remontees> ubottu, hello !
[21:19] <Eagleman> Fixing this error:  newaliases: fatal: config variable inet_interfaces: host not found: smtp.FQDN.TLD  with adding 127.0.0.1 smtp.FQDN.TLD in the hosts file is a good idea?
[21:19] <remontees> IdleOne, hello !
[21:19] <Snicers-Work> OerHeks, that is not for 10.10, but shouldn't I still be able to apt-get update and upgrade?
[21:20] <orudie> how can I save ssh sessions in ubuntu 12.04 ? The terminal doesn't seem to have this ability
[21:20] <remontees> vtf
[21:20] <OerHeks> Snicers-Work, yes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:20] <daftykins> 986064
[21:20] <daftykins> ok bot evidently doesn't flag bugs here
[21:20] <OerHeks> Snicers-Work, see the part with "old-releases"
[21:21] <DJones> daftykins: try bug 986064
[21:21] <daftykins> DJones: ty
[21:22] <HackinBlack> So when are the ubuntu phones suppose to come out ?
[21:23] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: you followed the guide that's in the replies?
[21:23] <IdleOne> !phones | HackinBlack
[21:23] <IdleOne> hmm
[21:23] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-phone
[21:23] <HackinBlack> Failed
[21:23] <DJones> !phone | HackinBlack
[21:24] <HackinBlack> Ok
[21:24] <HackinBlack> Thanks
[21:26] <HackinBlack> Ubuntu phones channel is deaf
[21:27] <z_Chanshark> daftykins:  i have and it did not work
[21:28] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: what stage is it failing at?
[21:28] <daftykins> HackinBlack: i read somewhere 2014 maybe
[21:29] <z_Chanshark> well im trying to do this on linux mint but the package manager i installed and and it did not work
[21:29] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: is it a mint based on 12.04 then?
[21:29] <z_Chanshark> yea
[21:30] <culpn8r> daftykins: should i be using the proprietary driver?
[21:30] <z_Chanshark> also my wireless adapter is different this the guides
[21:30] <daftykins> culpn8r: yeah, for proper functionality. though it could break stuff... is it a quite new model card or ancient?
[21:30] <culpn8r> ancient
[21:30] <culpn8r> like 4 years old
[21:31] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: lol bit too many variables to really say it applies then. especially as you're after mint support in an ubuntu chan. what did the mint channel say?
[21:31] <z_Chanshark> well i joined about 10 hours ago and they have yet to say a thing
[21:31] <unreal82> Anyone know about rooting the zte x500?
[21:31] <Marlinc> Is is in anyway possible to get the webapp integration in the 'normal' Google Chrome provided by Google itself
[21:31] <Dmole> looking for a cli irc client that has a download manger  (like irssi+fleech but working)... anyone?
[21:31] <daftykins> unreal82: that's totally not ubuntu support.
[21:32] <unreal82> I know, but it's a linux os base.
[21:32] <daftykins> unreal82: sorry. not gonna happen.
[21:32] <unreal82> Okay
[21:32] <usr13> daftykins: Try ##linux
[21:32] <daftykins> usr13: tab complete fail.
[21:32] <usr13> unreal82: Try ##linux
[21:33] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: hrmm. too late to return the dongle/card? :D
[21:33] <adarc> ""
[21:33] <Tweak> Is there a way to use the following boot options after install at GRUB like used on the liveCD?
[21:33] <Tweak> -irqpoll noapic nolapic acpi=off
[21:33] <z_Chanshark> i use it on win 7 :P
[21:33] <z_Chanshark> i have had it for about a year now
[21:34] <Miebster> When I run this command how is the password stored "mount -t smbfs -o username=<username>,password=<password> //<win-box>/<share> /mnt/<name-of-mountpoint>"
[21:34] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: gutted. i guess update to a 12.10 base mint, trying a livecd to see if anythings different, or having another stab at it from scratch.
[21:35] <z_Chanshark> daftykins:  i have been trying for 3 days i have tried this guide like 7 time slol
[21:35] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: welcome to Linux.
[21:35] <unreal82> That can wait, I was more concerned with the learning aspect. It seems to be legal now, so I thought it'd be interesting to do. Thanks all.
[21:36] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: however my upgrade-your-distro (and thus Linux kernel) suggestion still stands
[21:36] <usr13> z_Chanshark: Linux users are careful to buy devices that are Linux Friendly.
[21:36] <z_Chanshark> i got the adapter a year ago
[21:36] <z_Chanshark> i was using it on win 7
[21:36] <daftykins> usr13: that's why this support channel is totally quiet... oh wait. ;)
[21:38] <adarc> why dont you guys dont use just mac or win to avoid all the nerdy Problems....
[21:38] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: did your guide involve compiling ndiswrapper from source?
[21:38] <chamunks> the ubuntu release of mysql whats the config file that handles access restrictions like I want to only allow localhost and another lan ip to access the mysql server
[21:38] <z_Chanshark> yes
[21:38] <usr13> z_Chanshark: I'm sorry, I shouldn't even be in this conversation.  I don't know what device you are talking about,  I just assume it is not Linux compatable.  Am I correct?
[21:38] <daftykins> adarc: you never learn by giving up at the slightest problem.
[21:39] <Marlinc> Is it in anyway possible to get the webapp integration in the 'normal' Google Chrome provided by Google itself
[21:39] <z_Chanshark> its a N600 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter WNDA3100v2
[21:39] <usr13> z_Chanshark: As I scroll up, I see that you are using Linux Mint...?
[21:39] <z_Chanshark> yes but most ubuntu things work with mint
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> z_Chanshark, Mint's not a supported deroivative in this channel
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> !mint | z_Chanshark
[21:40] <daftykins> TheLordOfTime: yes the excellent assistance of 'go away' has already been provided.
[21:40] <z_Chanshark> well i gess im switching to ubuntu
[21:40] <chris___> Is there a way to enable the ability to scroll up and down using on my laptop's touch pad?  Currently it's not possible.
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> daftykins, wouldn't know that, i only just attached to my ZNC and its not sending scrollbacks :/
[21:41] <daftykins> TheLordOfTime: ;) roger.
[21:42] <shell_> Where can I go to learn about general ubuntu linux administration? For example: Extracting/installing packages, navigating filesystems, ssh, bash shell scripting, vpn etc.
[21:42] <escott> !manual | shell_
[21:42] <shell_> Thx
[21:43] <usr13> z_Chanshark: Just did a google search and all I see is "n600 wireless dual band usb adapter not working"
[21:43] <yamil> hola
[21:43] <z_Chanshark> yes i know
[21:43] <daftykins> usr13: he's following a guide in order to load the Windows driver via ndiswrapper.
[21:43] <z_Chanshark> im going to just feed a 400 foot eithernet cabble though my wall
[21:44] <yamil> argentine?
[21:44] <DJones> !ar | yamil
[21:44] <yamil> thxs!!
[21:44] <Atum> Hey
[21:44] <z_Chanshark> also the only problem im having which Ubuntu and mint users are having (because mint is based of ubuntu) is that everyone seems to get ndiswrapper error "Module ndiswrapper not found"
[21:45] <orudie> how can I save ssh sessions in ubuntu 12.04 ? The terminal doesn't seem to have this ability
[21:45] <TheLordOfTime> orudie, "save" ssh sessions?
[21:45] <k1l_> z_Chanshark: when you use mint ask the mint support. they handle the driver situation differently
[21:45] <escott> !info screen | orudie
[21:48] <orudie> screen is different
[21:48] <alami> hello, i have ubuntu 12.10 x86_64 and it seem that virtualbox 4.1.18 is not compatible, how can i update it?
[21:48] <orudie> its not what I am asking
[21:49] <daftykins> !virtualbox | alami
[21:49] <orudie> I have a whole bunch of ssh servers that I normally connect to, and in putty or securescrt you can have a config where all the connections are pre-configured with ip addresses, user names, etc...
[21:49] <orudie> I need to be able to do the same thing with ubuntu , just how I can do it in windows
[21:49] <TheLordOfTime> orudie, you can install putty on your linux and use that if you want
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> orudie, otherwise you'll have to create individualized aliases for eafch SSH command (such as ssh-to-work or ssh-to-home, etc.)
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> !info putty | orudie, putty exists in the ubuntu repos:
[21:50] <orudie> TheLordOfTime: I did install putty. I can't even run two putty windows at the same time. There is no option in linux version of putty to "duplicate session" when you right click the top bar.
[21:50] <TheLordOfTime> probably not as up to date as your windows version but...
[21:50] <orudie> ubottu: ^^
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> orudie, don't ping ubottu, she's a bot.
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> orudie, as i said, that may be in a newer version than is on linux
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> s/linux/ubuntu/
[21:51] <orudie> i installed putty from the package manager
[21:52] <orudie> the problem that I have with putty on ubuntu 12.04 is that I can't run more than one putty session at the same time.
[21:53] <orudie> and putty doesn't work the same way it works in windows for copy+pasting
[21:54] <daftykins> welcome to OS != Windows.
[21:54] <unreal82> need recommendation for xubuntu 12.04 proprietary driver. GPU is Geforce 620. I have options in jockey of the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates), or experimental versions 304 and 310.
[21:55] <daftykins> unreal82: whichever you have the nerve to try. more recent if you're gaming would be best
[21:55] <jgodbout> My laptop is failing to boot after trying to hibernate, with the error ¨resume: could not stat resume device file /dev/dm-0¨  (12.04). I have tried booting in recovery mode and reformatting my swap space.
[21:56] <unreal82> daftykins: thanks, I don't game. I want better resolution.
[21:56] <jgodbout> Any ideas?
[21:56] <Eagleman> I am unable to reach mail.FQDN.tld ( using a mail client ) from inside my network ( the fqdn is also in my network ), however outside my network this works fine. nslookup on both hosts shows the same ip address. I can also ping and do tracert, everything works fine except on my mail client. Any idea what could be the issue ?
[21:56] <IOmegaZ> hi
[21:57] <guntbert> alami: support for virtualbox is to be found in #vbox
[21:57] <daftykins> jgodbout: if you hold down left shift at boot to get the GRUB menu stuffs, do you see anything relevant?
[21:58] <IOmegaZ> ubuntu installer An Error occured list index out of range for more information,please see the log file
[21:58] <IOmegaZ> i keep getting
[21:58] <orudie> I mean what do you guys do when you have to connect to many differet servers via ssh all the time?
[21:58] <escott> orudie, ~/.ssh/config
[21:59] <bekks> orudie: I just use ssh hostname :)
[21:59] <daftykins> orudie: edit my /etc/hosts file to add IPs to friendly hostnames (if i can't ssh via hostname) then just type ssh user@host in terminals
[21:59] <IOmegaZ> hi
[21:59] <IOmegaZ> i got a probllem
[22:00] <daftykins> IOmegaZ: please don't repeat it too often as it'll anger me and kill small kittens in the process
[22:00] <orudie> yeah but i don't want to even type ssh user@host that's too much work
[22:00] <daftykins> IOmegaZ: your best first step is to work out how to access the install log and post it online for someone to read
[22:01] <orudie> securecrt is a paid ssh client which has very nice ssh sessions management
[22:01] <jgodbout> daftykins: Nothing interesting. Left shift just shows the grub menu right?
[22:01] <machicola> running Ubuntu 12.10, what is the preferred way to have a startup script, which launches some programs and performs some file operations, initialize after GDM is loaded regardless of the session I've chosen at the login screen
[22:01] <daftykins> orudie: then it sounds like you need to either get googling for an alternative, consider creating aliases, or give up.
[22:01] <orudie> you can store hundreds of ssh connections there
[22:01] <jhutchins> orudie: Create a config file.
[22:01] <jhutchins> orudie: You can install putty.
[22:01] <daftykins> jgodbout: yeah, i wondered if maybe the boot options on the default had some extra fields that tell it to look for the resume image that you could delete to make it ignore that
[22:02] <ubuntu-tester> orudie: so you came here to advertise securecrt?
[22:02] <bekks> orudie: You can do the same using putty, e.g.
[22:02] <machicola> I would like it to run on top of all of the normal boot processes, it seems like using .xsession is requiring me to initialize other basic processes
[22:02] <escott> orudie, just modify your ssh config file. really not that hard. ~/.ssh/config
[22:02] <orudie> can't run two putty sessions at the same time in ubuntu is my biggest problem with putty for ubuntu
[22:02] <jhutchins> orudie: With the conf file you still have to do ssh foo, but you can also configure icons as ssh links.
[22:02] <escott> orudie, http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssh_config
[22:02] <jhutchins> orudie: ?
[22:02] <jrib> machicola: what sort of things do you want to run?
[22:02] <jhutchins> orudie: Why not?
[22:03] <Miebster> how do the mount commands and adding things to fstab differ?
[22:03] <IOmegaZ> ok
[22:03] <jgodbout> daftykins: I tried adding no_console_suspend to the boot options, but that didnt seem to do anything either
[22:03] <IOmegaZ> how can i post my log file?
[22:03] <orudie> because it doesn't start
[22:03] <orudie> only one starts
[22:03] <IOmegaZ> how can i post my log file?
[22:03] <daftykins> Miebster: fstab is permanent, mount is single user one time mount
[22:03] <jrib> Miebster: one is a command and the other is a file with settings in it?
[22:03] <orudie> can't right click - duplicate session
[22:03] <machicola> jrib: just some applications, start up the terminal, move some files around and do a little clean up
[22:03] <bekks> !paste | IOmegaZ
[22:03] <orudie> like you can in putty for windows
[22:03] <escott> Miebster, fstab allows unpriv users to mount entries in the fstab otherwise unpriv users cannot mount
[22:03] <jhutchins> Miebster: THe syntax is different; items in fstab can be made to mount automatically at boot.
[22:03] <Miebster> how can I make mounts permanent, without putting them in fstab, since you have to put your password in the command
[22:03] <daftykins> jgodbout: that sounds more like 'don't suspent in future'. can you boot to CLI access?
[22:04] <jhutchins> orudie: So just launch another one.
[22:04] <Bjarte> okay, um, I actually got a simple beginner-level C question. What's the difference between alignof and sizeof? I feel like they're the same but for structs they're not. for unions, they are.
[22:04] <jgodbout> daftykins: Nope, it stops with the error message before then.
[22:04] <escott> Miebster, you mean a password for something like samba?
[22:04] <daftykins> Miebster: you can't. did you look into the GUI 'connect to server' i mentioned?
[22:04] <jrib> machicola: if you can use the Startup Applications gui, I would suggest that.  It creates .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart.  You can also use ~/.xprofile or ~/.xsessionrc instead.
[22:04] <Miebster> escott: yeah
[22:04] <daftykins> jgodbout: ah :(
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> Miebster  fstab is the way to make mounts permanent
[22:04] <jhutchins> IOmegaZ: You can READ the log file and see why it's stopping.
[22:04] <Miebster> daftykins: no i missed that
[22:05] <escott> Miebster, you could see if you can specify the password not in fstab but by reference to a file in /etc and then restrict permissions on that file
[22:05] <guntbert> Bjarte: this channel is for ubuntu support - you might get answers in ##c
[22:05] <alami> why i get this error after run apt-get update http://pastebin.com/dW2DcvS3
[22:05] <daftykins> jgodbout: in google results people refer to removing the package 'uswusp' - you could do that in your current install by chroot'ing from a livecd
[22:05] <jgodbout> daftykins: Sweet, i
[22:05] <Bjarte> guntbert: I asked there. Nobody answered xD. Plus I usually come here since I do use #ubuntu so I gave this channel a try.
[22:05] <Bjarte> :|
[22:05] <z_Chanshark> yea daftykins  i went to both irc's and litterer they are both dead silent
[22:05] <jgodbout> daftykins: ill try that. also, this seems to be the exact problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997933
[22:05] <bekks> alami: Because you added duplicates of sources?
[22:05] <Miebster> Can't I just run the mount command when the user logs in?
[22:06] <bekks> Miebster: Only using pam_mount
[22:06] <daftykins> Miebster: you're still gonna need to pass a password.
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> alami  a mix of i386 and amd64 sources may be conflicting
[22:06] <Miebster> I'm just blown away there isn't a way to do this, this seems like a very common thing
[22:07] <daftykins> jgodbout: do you also have another Linux install present, so there's another swap partition somewhere else?
[22:07] <alami> bekks: i havn't add any one i thing ubuntu software Center is dowing that
[22:07] <bekks> Miebster: In the last 10 years, I've only seen 3 people using it.
[22:07] <coldguatemalan> hi all, so i got a sever with one ip set yet i just discovered that it responds to another ip i had no idea about. i'm baffled has anyone experienced such a thing?
[22:07] <jgodbout> daftykins: I made the swap partition that iḿ using now from a previous install, then i installed 12.04 over that previous install partition, keeping the old swap partition.
[22:07] <bekks> coldguatemalan: Just take a look at ifconfig -a
[22:07] <daftykins> coldguatemalan: yes, if IP forwarding is enabled, a host can reply from a second IP if it has another network interface.
[22:07] <alami> bekks: how can i delate it?
[22:07] <jgodbout> daftykins: i have already tried formatting that swap partition again, though.
[22:07] <Miebster> Okay, what do people normaly do when they need to connect to a smba share, and they want it to be connected when they log in?
[22:08] <syncsys> cannot set JAVA_HOME in /etc/enviroment  with JAVA_HOME="/home/syncsys/bin/jdk1.7.0_10/"    echo give me that but its not a correct java home or i need something else?
[22:08] <machicola> jrib, I was trying to do it via the command line only or without actually using the startup apps gui...I've tried it with .xsession and some weird thing is happening, it seems like basic processes aren't coming up which is making me wonder whether with .xsession GDM and some other things need to be started manually
[22:08] <bekks> alami: By editing the sources.
[22:08] <alami> okay
[22:08] <jgodbout> daftykins: im booting off a live CD now, and ill try to remove that package
[22:08] <coldguatemalan> bekks i have two interfaces bonded with only one ip
[22:08] <jrib> machicola: so try the two files I suggested?  You can use them and log-in with gdm
[22:08] <daftykins> jgodbout: it might be that your install's /etc/fstab is referring to the swap drive wrong, seems to be thoughts i get from google results too
[22:08] <limpc> daftykins, i got my livedcd (usb), but ubuntu doesn't load when i boot to it
[22:08] <limpc> usb does not work on it either
[22:08] <machicola> ok, thanks jrib
[22:09] <machicola> jrib: so all of these files are configured to work differently?
[22:09] <daftykins> limpc: if you're sure those boot devices work, could be your hardware has an issue with the version of the kernel on the liveCD/USB
[22:09] <Niyakun> can the newest ubuntu run under windows 8 using wubi?
[22:09] <jrib> machicola: what do you mean?
[22:09] <bekks> Miebster: They use LDAP and pam_mount
[22:09] <daftykins> Niyakun: i would highly recommend never even thinking of using WUBI
[22:09] <limpc> its ubuntu 12.10, and isn't the kernel supposed to be generic?
[22:09] <machicola> i mean, the way .xsession is running the script/code will be different from the way .xsessionrc or .xprofile will?
[22:10] <daftykins> limpc: sure but kernels have bugs sometimes. try googling with your motherboard model / chipset
[22:10] <jrib> machicola: yes.
[22:10] <machicola> ok, thanks
[22:10] <jhutchins> Strange. something is blocking ad-block
[22:10] <daftykins> limpc: the other option is trying to get logs from your boot, try an older ubuntu perhaps? to see if that boots
[22:10] <Miebster> bekks: Im reading pam_mounts about and it sounds like it was made for odd cases, how is a generic somba mount require this 3rd party tool?
[22:10] <jgodbout> daftykins: ill look at my fstab and see if anything looks funny
[22:10] <jrib> machicola: you usually use .xsession as your actual session.  .xprofile and .xsessionrc just get executed sometime after you login with whatever session you are using
[22:10] <limpc> i can't even get to shell
[22:10] <limpc> usb keyboard dies when ubuntu initializes
[22:11] <bekks> Miebster: It isnt a 3rd party tool :)
[22:11] <limpc> ill see if i can find an old ps2 keyboard :/
[22:11] <daftykins> jgodbout: ja if it doesn't use UUIDs, perhaps the disk 'letters' have changed
[22:11] <daftykins> PS/2 for the win.
[22:11] <machicola> jrib, ahh very helpful, ok thanks
[22:11] <Niyakun> daftykins: it is a laptop and i cannot afford to partition the current ntfs partition
[22:11] <Niyakun> which has data*
[22:12] <diparikh> doublehelix
[22:12] <daftykins> Niyakun: how come?
[22:12] <Miebster> bekks: how is it not 3rd party?
[22:13] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: why not to put it to fstab?
[22:13] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: that would put password in plain text
[22:13] <escott> Miebster, pam is the core authentication/permission tool in linux
[22:13] <Miebster> escott: I'm lost this conversation is going in circles, everyone says this is easy but no one has given a solution
[22:13] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: and where do you expect to store it?
[22:14] <Miebster> I have a central server with shared samba drives.  How can I get users to mount to the drive, without putting their password in plain text, and having the mount persist through restart?
[22:14] <escott> Miebster, is it possible to specify the password in a file. something like mount -t cifs -permission-file /some/path/to/file/with/username_and_password
[22:15] <daftykins> escott: he knows but doesn't want to do that
[22:15] <bekks> Miebster: Because the package is named libpam-mount and is provided by the stock ubuntu repos?
[22:15] <daftykins> bekks: what is the method you're suggesting Miebster try? i'm curious.
[22:15] <jrib> Miebster: just out of curiousity, what is the reason to not want the password in plaintext?
[22:15] <Quest> cannot set JAVA_HOME in /etc/enviroment  with JAVA_HOME="/home/syncsys/bin/jdk1.7.0_10/"    echo give me that but its not a correct java home or i need something else?
[22:15] <bekks> daftykins: Using LDAP and pam_mount
[22:16] <Miebster> jrib: because then anyone with access to the machine (Every employee) can find anyones password
[22:16] <daftykins> bekks: does that assume there's an LDAP backend?
[22:16] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: I see, but you have to put it somewhere. Windows also put it somewhere, obfuscated though
[22:16] <bekks> daftykins: Of course.
[22:16] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: puts it somewhere, not in plain text though
[22:16] <jrib> Miebster: why?
[22:16] <escott> Miebster, if you can put the password in a file and lockdown the file thats not a problem
[22:16] <jrib> Miebster: you can just use regular permissions to solve that problem, no?
[22:16] <daftykins> Miebster: what is the host that you're authenticating these users to running, windows AD?
[22:16] <Miebster> jrib: live cd?
[22:17] <jrib> Miebster: that's a different concern.
[22:17] <Miebster> daftykins: just windows server? not sure what are you asking?
[22:17] <jrib> Miebster: but ok, carry on :)
[22:17] <Miebster> jrib: pretty normal concern to not put passwords in plaintext
[22:17] <daftykins> Miebster: i'm asking if it's a Windows domain or just file server role
[22:17] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: do you want to hide it from *that* user, who uses it?
[22:18] <daftykins> jrib: i tried to say the standard course of action is to hide the smbpass file from the users but apparently Miebster's users all boot alternative OS's and read each others passwords for fun
[22:18] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: the user is the one that types it in, I want to hide it from everyone else, and in general, a password should never be on screen
[22:18] <Quest> ow to eliminate the need to restart again and again after /etc/enviroment updations
[22:18] <blami> Quest: just logout and login
[22:19] <Quest> blami,  any other way?
[22:19] <blami> Quest: /etc/environment gets sourced every time you run login shell
[22:19] <Quest> blami,  hm is there any other way?
[22:19] <blami> Quest: not for whole graphical session
[22:19] <escott> Quest, you cannot (easily) change the environment of a running process
[22:19] <Miebster> daftykins: I'm blown away that I'm being treated odd for this, linux has always been about superior security, and now we store password in plain text
[22:19] <Quest> escott,  i did that once. i just lost the tutorial
[22:19] <jrib> Miebster: you could also just encrypt the drive ubuntu is on.  Which you probably should be doing if you're concerned about people fetching data from the drive using a live cd
[22:20] <blami> Quest: because only running process can change it's own environment
[22:20] <jrib> Miebster: I think you're asking a fair question.  I just wanted to make sure I understood your needs
[22:20] <Miebster> jrib: there is no data on the machines we care about, everything is on a server, so I could care 2 cents if you hacked into the machine, until you can auth with the server you dont have anythign
[22:20] <blami> Quest: if you need your changes being sourced only in single terminal window you can do . /etc/environment
[22:20] <blami> hm
[22:20] <jgodbout> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/MTZjycRS  - my fstab file. gparted lists /dev/sda5 as a 4GB linux-swap
[22:20] <Quest> back
[22:21] <daftykins> Miebster: Linux users don't tend to be mounting from a windows box sadly.
[22:21] <jrib> Miebster: was pam_mount not suitable?  I'm not familiar with it myself
[22:21] <Miebster> jrib: not sure how to use it
[22:21] <daftykins> jgodbout: oh it's encrypted? 0o
[22:21] <blami> Miebster: that's why /etc/shadow is there
[22:21] <jgodbout> daftykins: Oh, I didnt know. that would explain why hibernation failed huh
[22:22] <daftykins> jgodbout: i'm only really assuming. can you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l' too?
[22:22] <Miebster> blami: can I use that do accomplish this?
[22:22] <riderplus> i have no sound in 13.04...i saw that bug, but couldn't fix it
[22:22] <daftykins> jgodbout: since the fstab there uses /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 as the mount location
[22:22] <riderplus> how can i restore the sound?
[22:22] <escott> jgodbout, daftykins if you selected encrypted home at install you get encrypted swap which probably breaks hibernation
[22:23] <daftykins> riderplus: distros that haven't been released yet are talked about in #ubuntu+1
[22:23] <Slart> riderplus: isn't there a channel dedicated to 13.04, #ubuntu+1 perhaps?
[22:23] <blami> Miebster: sorry I havent read backlog ... just your complaint about fulltext password
[22:23] <jgodbout> escott: Yeah,i encrypted myhome dir.
[22:23] <jrib> Miebster: one alternative is to just give the users an encrypted directory and put the credentials file in there, no?
[22:23] <daftykins> Slart: ^5
[22:23] <daftykins> escott: ah-ha. thanks
[22:23] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/157128/proper-fstab-entry-to-mount-a-samba-share-on-boot
[22:23] <Slart> daftykins: I have to oil my keyboard if I'm going to keep up with you guys =)
[22:23] <escott> jgodbout, you are going to have to pick one of the other. suspend is fine, but hibernate is not going to support encryption
[22:23] <level> hi
[22:23] <level> :)
[22:24] <z_Chanshark> daftykins: i think i figured it out for mint users / ubuntu users :D
[22:24] <blami> escott: why?
[22:24] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: :O
[22:24] <daftykins> z_Chanshark: do tell
[22:24] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: answer from russnash
[22:24] <escott> blami, no secure location for the key when the cpu halts
[22:24] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: it wont load
[22:24] <blami> escott: I have lvm on luks and hibernates just fine
[22:24] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: ?
[22:24] <jgodbout> escott: I dont need to hibernate. I just cant boot after i tried to hibernate.
[22:24] <blami> escott: yes, that's correct. I have passphrase stored in laptop's tpm store
[22:24] <escott> blami, thats full disk. and you presumably give the key to the bootloader
[22:24] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: that hyperlink doens't load
[22:25] <apfor> i
[22:25] <jgodbout> escott: I dont need to be able to hibernate in the future, i usually just suspend to ram
[22:25] <blami> escott: no I just unlock tpm store using smartcard token
[22:25] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: hmm, works for me...
[22:25] <z_Chanshark> ok so apparently broadcom package drivers work with the netgear thingy adapter only v2 tho so all i need to do is go into the package manager and download the broadcom package
[22:25] <escott> blami, effectively the same
[22:25] <blami> escott: then my random passphrase is passed to cryptsetup
[22:25] <blami> escott: yes
[22:26] <daftykins> jgodbout: if i were you i'd try the sadistic approach of removing the swap mount and seeing if boot cries about something else / doesn't error :D
[22:26] <escott> jgodbout, i would see if there is a way you can direct the system to boot without using the hibernate image
[22:26] <blami> jgodbout: suspending to ram isn't very wise with encrypted harddrive
[22:26] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: that uses a plain text password
[22:26] <jgodbout> daftykins: escott: http://pastebin.com/CsjRbD91  sudo fdisk -l
[22:27] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: i've copied the main part: http://pastebin.com/tVX7U84s
[22:27] <daftykins> jgodbout: did you select an enctypted /home as escott mentioned?
[22:27] <daftykins> *encrypted
[22:27] <mdel> hey all - how can I re-evaluate the rules in /etc/security/access.conf?
[22:27] <jgodbout> escott: i tried finding grub options to boot without resuming. daftykins also suggested removing uswsusp from a live cd
[22:27] <escott> daftykins, he indicated he had
[22:27] <jgodbout> daftykins: yes i encrypted my /home
[22:27] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: password is hidden from anyone but root
[22:27] <escott> jgodbout, when you say it doesnt boot what exactly happens on boot
[22:28] <jgodbout> daftykins: when i tried hibernating, i didn realise that it didnt work if you encrypted it. ill know for the future
[22:28] <z_Chanshark> daftykins:  but apparently linux drivers will never be built for it because they are working on ones that are more advanced
[22:28] <escott> jgodbout, i dont think it should even be able to see the hibernation image and should just boot fresh
[22:29] <jgodbout> escott: it shows the ubuntu loading screen (with the 5 dots), and stays there. if i boot in recovery mode, it has the error shown here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997933
[22:29] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: its still stored in plaintext, livecd = password stolen
[22:29] <daftykins> jgodbout: probably buried in their release notes :S
[22:29] <daftykins> escott: ah my bad, i'm channel hopping too much
[22:29] <bekks> Miebster: It isnt.
[22:29] <ogist> hi
[22:29] <bekks> Miebster: Encrypt your box -> livecd useless.
[22:30] <Miebster> bekks: the boxes are not encrypted
[22:30] <jgodbout> escott: i dont get a command line or anything when i ctrlalt+f1
[22:30] <escott> jgodbout, i wonder if the hibernation write did something nasty to the cryptswap device
[22:30] <bekks> Miebster: Then encrypt them when fearing someone can use a livecd.
[22:30] <Miebster> The main point here is I can do this with NFS, but not SAMBA?
[22:31] <bekks> Miebster: Only using pam_mount and an LDAP backend.
[22:31] <jrib> Miebster: how do you do it with nfs?
[22:31] <Miebster> bekks: your suggestion is useless, you are telling me to reinstall the OS on everymachine because of a limitation in samba mounts
[22:31] <bekks> Miebster: It is no limitation of samba mounts when YOU are fearing someone can use a livecd to steal your data.
[22:31] <Miebster> jrib: for NFS I just put it in the fstab, no password, no username, and it works since it auths automatically
[22:31] <Miebster> bekks: wrong, it is a limitation with SAMBA mounts in linux, this works in windows (no passwords entered) and works with NFS in linux (no passwords entered)
[22:31] <bekks> Miebster: Since WHEN does NFS auths itself automagically against what?
[22:31] <Rienzilla> hmm
[22:31] <jgodbout> escott: shall i try creating a new swap partition and using that?
[22:32] <z_Chanshark> well im off, bye
[22:32] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: same on win, i should note. then go the way shown by bekks (LDAP etc,)
[22:32] <escott> jgodbout, i would try to boot a livecd and create the cryptswap device and then mkswap that device (if you can) alternately zero out the underlying swap device partition and try to recreate the swap device when booting
[22:32] <bekks> NFS3 implements NO security auth at all, and NFS4 requires a kerberos backend.
[22:32] <Miebster> bekks: for NFS I put this in my fstab server.local:/home/nfs/foo /opt/foo nfs user,exec,nolock 0 0
[22:32] <escott> jgodbout, this should explain how to do it http://hydra.geht.net/tino/howto/linux/cryptswap/
[22:33] <bekks> Thats NFS3 without any authentication.,
[22:33] <bekks> Everyone could access that share.
[22:33] <jgodbout> escott: ok thanks, iĺl try thatand report back
[22:33] <Miebster> bekks: if the user doens't have auth they get denied
[22:33] <bekks> Miebster: Using NFS3, there is no auth at all.
[22:34] <bekks> Miebster: Do you have a kerberos server for authentication? If no, you are using NFS3 and NO auth at all.
[22:37] <bekks> Miebster: So I take this as you should redesign your entire non-existing security concept.
[22:38] <Miebster> bekks: you have this asusmption that I have anything to do with the backend, I'm not sure how it works, I know that in windows it uses your credentials you used when you logged in to the domain
[22:38] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: put it simple: if password is stored somewhere locally, it can be stolen. you have only two other options: a) enter it every time; and b) store it in some TRUSTED place (that means strong auth etc.)
[22:39] <ubuntu-tester> Miebster: yes, domain is that same trusted third party
[22:39] <Miebster> ubuntu-tester: on windows the password isn't stored, you auth to the domain and then when you access the drives the server checks if you are authed to the domain
[22:39] <bekks> Miebster: Which is a local authentication and it requires to have the SAME credentials on ALL computers. Using an Active Directory, you have a CENTRAL administration, which eases up administration heavily in terms of security.
[22:39] <bekks> And the password IS stored, in Windows.
[22:40] <nineteensixty> is there a 12.10 for i7 the download only seems to to amd64
[22:40] <bekks> NTSAM.DAT or something like that contains all local accounts and can be easily hacked.
[22:40] <jgodbout> escott: That page is a bit too complicated for me to follow. Is there a simpler way to do that? Can we just delete the swap file to get rid of the hibernation data?
[22:40] <escott> jgodbout, thats basically what im suggesting. but if you have encrypted home so you should have encrypted swap
[22:41] <xangua> !amd64 | nineteensixty
[22:42] <escott> nineteensixty, amd64 is the name for the 64bit arch made by intel b/c amd came up with it first
[22:43] <OerHeks> intel made ia64, wich wasn't succesfull, because it was not compatible with 32 bit instructions
[22:44] <nineteensixty> I'm getting: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU but only detected an i686 CPU
[22:44] <escott> then either it is not an i7 or you are running in a virtual environment
[22:44] <bekks> nineteensixty: Thats pretty clear. You need a 32bit kernel or a 64bit CPU.
[22:45] <nineteensixty> you'd think so wouldn't you!
[22:45] <blkadder> And if you are running in a virtual make sure you have support enabled in BIOS.
[22:45] <bekks> nineteensixty: Ensure you created a 64bit VM, not a 32bit one.
[22:46] <nineteensixty> Ah that may be why
[22:47] <nineteensixty> Which I probably can't do with the free Microsoft Virtual PC
[22:47] <bekks> Which you can do.
[22:47] <blkadder> Dunno but Virtualbox works fine.
[22:47] <demonio1> hi all, can anyone tell me where are source files write in c about program as "rm" "mv" ls etc
[22:47] <blkadder> I am using it now.
[22:47] <demonio1> ?
[22:47] <bekks> demonio1: You have to install the source packages.
[22:47] <escott> !info coreutils-dev
[22:48] <wolftune> Anybody know if there exists a KDE plasma panel widget to do something like the Unity thing where the active window's title bar and buttons are shown in the panel?
[22:48] <escott> demonio1, it would be coreutils package, source can be got from gnu.org
[22:48] <jrib> demonio1: or just « apt-get source coreutils »
[22:49] <Steven4242> Hello I have managed to boot into 12.10 however now I have no internet access via wifi.. can anyone help me? (I have tried googling solutions but I cant get anything to work)
[22:50] <demonio1> sorry maybe i did wrong i want se files system write in c
[22:50] <jgodbout> daftykins: escott: ok i just deleted my swap partition, and now running boot-repair
[22:50] <Steven4242> my wireless network just says "device not ready"
[22:50] <jrib> demonio1: you want to see the C source code, yes?
[22:50] <demonio1> jrib yes
[22:51] <jrib> demonio1: so did you run « apt-get source coreutils » ?  It will place a directory in your current directory
[22:51] <blkadder> Steven4242: Are you certain you are running a supported device?
[22:51] <demonio1> jrib and then ?
[22:51] <jrib> demonio1: and then you read it
[22:52] <Steven4242> blkadder:  how do I find that out? when I was running 12.04 I was connected and had no problems.. just 12.10 is causing problems
[22:52] <Quest>  please see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14287501/java-home-in-etc-enviroment-in-ubuntu    any help?
[22:53] <demonio1> jrib ok i'll try thanks :)
[22:53] <blkadder> If it was running previously then it is likely to be supported. What type of device is it?
[22:53] <jrib> Quest: why don't you install java through the repositories?
[22:53] <Steven4242> how do you enable a network device?
[22:54] <Quest> jrib,  i will still need to setup home
[22:54] <Quest> java home *
[22:54] <escott> Quest, its inappropriate for /etc/env to reference the home dir of a user
[22:54] <Steven4242> in my network settings it just says Wireless then underneath it Unavailable
[22:54] <Quest> escott, despite it says $ echo $JAVA_HOME
[22:54] <Quest> /home/syncsys/bin/jdk1.7.0_10
[22:55] <jrib> Quest: if you need to setup JAVA_HOME you can do that
[22:55] <Quest> jrib, how
[22:55] <jrib> Quest: the way you're doing it now
[22:55] <jrib> Quest: well some of it anyway.
[22:55] <escott> Quest, i didnt say it wouldnt work. i said it was inappropriate
[22:55] <blkadder> ifup but the drivers need to be loaded for it to work.
[22:55] <Quest> jrib,  if you read the link i gave. it says. $ java -version
[22:55] <Quest> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
[22:55] <Quest>  * default-jre
[22:55] <jrib> Quest: I read it
[22:55] <Quest> then why it says like that
[22:56] <Quest> escott,  ok.
[22:56] <blkadder> What specific wifi device are you running?
[22:56] <jrib> Quest: I recommend you install java through the repositories.  Then return here if you still have issues.
[22:56] <Quest> escott,  so whats wrong . why its not working
[22:56] <jrib> !java | Quest
[22:56] <ChrisWere> I've come accross yet another bug in ubuntu, surprise surprise, we logitech c15 webcam doesn't work with guvcview. Anyone know how to fix this?
[22:56] <Quest> jrib,  escott  i have done it before. repos also need to setup java home. its the same.
[22:56] <escott> Quest, if you installed java to a users home folder you should specify that in their ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
[22:56] <Steven4242> Is there a command I can type in terminal to tell me what wifi card I have?
[22:57] <jrib> Quest: well you haven't installed it through the repositories this time, it looks like.
[22:57] <ubuntu-tester> Steven4242: try lspci |grep -i wireless
[22:57] <blkadder> Try lspci
[22:58] <Quest> jrib,  trust me. its the same
[22:58] <Steven4242> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:58] <jrib> Quest: it's not :/
[23:00] <blkadder> Steven4242: Now go google that card + Ubuntu. :-)
[23:00] <blkadder> Looks like support is a bit flaky for it.
[23:00] <jrib> Quest: for one, if you use a nice package from the repositories, you won't have to deal with java not being in your path.  I don't use java and I don't know if you still need to set JAVA_HOME.  But you can do that if you want (use /etc/environment like you are now)
[23:01] <disharmonic> New card? i thought atheros is more or less a safe bet
[23:02] <stueng> hi, where do I change the default session to unity-2d ?
[23:02] <stueng> !unity2d
[23:02] <blkadder> Steven4242: Perhaps this one will help: http://www.ossdoc.com/2012/10/how-to-fxx-atheros-ar9285ar9287.html
[23:02] <disharmonic> stueng, on the login screen
[23:02] <disharmonic> stueng, it alway remembers yor last choice
[23:04] <Steven4242> hello
[23:04] <stueng> I want to make anyone that ever uses the machine only have the ability to use unity-2d
[23:04] <stueng> no choice
[23:04] <stueng> forced
[23:05] <Steven4242> YAY wireless works!!
[23:05] <jgodbout> daftykins: I think that im ready to try deleting uswsusp, can you please help me with that?
[23:05] <stueng> ive removed the sessions from /usr/share/xsessions to see what happens
[23:05] <blkadder> Feel free to send me money. :-)
[23:05] <jgodbout> daftykins: fiddling around with and deleting my swap didnt do much
[23:05] <Steven4242> thank you so much! :D
[23:05] <blkadder> You are welcome.
[23:05] <uponatree> Hi there, any radius-expert out there?
[23:05] <jgodbout> daftykins: or maybe i should just reinstall ubuntu.
[23:07] <ogist> lol
[23:07] <ogist> root has joined
[23:07] <ogist> woa
[23:07] <ogist> theroot joined as i typed that
[23:07] <ogist> root
[23:07] <ogist> orot
[23:07] <ogist> troo
[23:08] <blkadder> rot
[23:08] <k1l_> !ot | ogist
[23:08] <ogist> !ot | k1l_
[23:09] <guest-sgkIwQ> hi
[23:09] <uponatree> I want to set up device authentification on a lan with a radius server on ubuntu, but i can't find any howtos. do you have some hints how to do that?
[23:11] <escott> stueng, you might try uninstalling compiz
[23:11] <daftykins> jgodbout: sorry went to cook. where are you at?
[23:11] <Guest94829> using linux os first time and it rock
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[23:12] <blkadder> uponatree: I dunno a google search seems to reveal some info
[23:12] <blkadder> http://www.mydeveloperblog.com/linux-tutorial/radius/radius-servers-installation-guide-freeradius-ubuntu-mysql/
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[23:14] <uponatree> blkadder: i found these too. but i want device authentification based on certificates
[23:14] <lhavelund> wildc4rd: apologies. he left quickly. and my tabcomplete is derp.
[23:14] <unreal82> Anyone here familiar with encrypted lvm?
[23:15] <blkadder> You mean like this? http://deployingradius.com/documents/configuration/certificates.html
[23:15] <escott> unreal82, yes i've heard of it
[23:15] <marnix> hi
[23:16] <daftykins> !hi
[23:16] <daftykins> !hello
[23:16] <marnix> I have got a pysdm problem
[23:16] <daftykins> !ask | marnix
[23:16] <stueng> this might be a dumb question.. but how do I know if I am running unity2d or 3d?
[23:17] <marnix> my PC  will not boot anymore after using pysdm - HELP
[23:17] <unreal82> escott: I want to dual boot windows xp and xubuntu. I have attempted to install xubuntu using the alternate download, to no avail. I can only use the desktop image. I was wondering if there's some conflict with dual booting and encrypted lvm. I am using two separate hard drives, one for each os.
[23:17] <uponatree> blkadder: guess your link is how to create a new server certificat, but i want to authentificate devices with their own certificates
[23:17] <jgodbout> daftykins: im just going to back up my files from my encrypted home and reinstall. thanks for the help!
[23:17] <uponatree> blkadder: like in windows network policy server
[23:17] <daftykins> jgodbout: sounds good! my pleasure, sorry we couldn't get there.
[23:18] <escott> unreal82, the only issue i can think of is if /boot is inside the lvm then you would need to provide the password to see the menu item to boot windows
[23:18] <diverdude> Is there an edsitor that can access a file via ftp, and edit it and save it directly to the ftp location again?
[23:18] <unreal82> no, it's outside. I wouldn't encrypt the /boot.
[23:19] <escott> diverdude, there is probably a fuse ftp filesystem module you can use and then use any editor you want
[23:19] <blkadder> uponatree: You need to create the cert then install them on the client systems in order to auth.
[23:19] <jgodbout> daftykins: :)
[23:20] <unreal82> escott: the install fails consistently at "select and install software", not sure if that means anything.
[23:20] <diverdude> escott, i tried mounting via curlftpfs...but its extremely slow
[23:20] <stueng> this might be a dumb question.. but how do I know if I am running unity2d or 3d?
[23:20] <ubuntu-tester> diverdude: mc for ex.
[23:20] <diverdude> ubuntu-tester, ???
[23:20] <uponatree> blkadder: do i create the client certs like the server cert? where can i tell radius to except certs instead of user/password?
[23:20] <unreal82> stueng: when you log in, you select 2d or 3d at the splash screen.
[23:21] <ubuntu-tester> Midnight Commander
[23:21] <stueng> unreal82 once I am IN the session how would I know which session I am in
[23:21] <daftykins> stueng: there's all kinda fancy 3D effects going on
[23:22] <stueng> im in a remote VNC session is its difficult to tell
[23:22] <stueng> ive removed all the sessions from /user/share/xsessions and also changed lightdm.conf to load the 2d session but Im not convinced I am in a 2d session
[23:22] <unreal82> stueng: daftkins is right http://askubuntu.com/questions/62001/am-i-using-unity-or-unity-2d
[23:22] <stueng> the menus dissapear when I click on them and stuff
[23:23] <stueng> the trash icon does not seem transparent
[23:23] <blkadder> uponatree: Take a look at the docs in freeradius.org. I haven't touched radius since the days of dial-up.
[23:24] <uponatree> blkadder: i'll have a look, thanks!
[23:25] <ubuntu-tester> stueng: see the last answer there
[23:25] <blkadder> uponatree: You are welcome. Here's another link that might be helpful regarding the certs/install http://www.dartmouth.edu/~pkilab/pages/EAP-TLSwFreeRadius.html
[23:26] <blkadder> Assuming you understand how TLS works, etc.
[23:26] <stueng> ah yes thanks ubuntu-tester last answer is great
[23:29] <marnix> my PC  will not boot anymore after using pysdm - HELP
[23:30] <Feedhurley> is there someone who is good at fstab?
[23:30] <Feedhurley> i got partition problems
[23:32] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: ask away
[23:32] <marnix> for pysdm?
[23:35] <dr_willis> !fstab
[23:35] <ZombiePox> Witam :)
[23:35] <dr_willis> psydm MIGHT make a backup of the fstab file it changes.. check in /etc/ and hope for the best. ;)
[23:35] <stueng> if I wanted to startx with session unity-2d what would the command be ?
[23:35] <dr_willis> stueng:  you are on 12.04 correct?
[23:35] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester okey, i have done this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103960 but I do not really understand his answer
[23:36] <stueng> dr_willis yeah
[23:36] <dr_willis> stueng:  i belive if you select uinity 2d at the login screen it changes your .dmrc and after that startx will default to unity2d
[23:36] <dr_willis> stueng:  you can check the unity-2d.desktop filein the x sessions directory to see what command it runs also
[23:37] <stueng> ok thats great but unfortuenly I need to know how to do it from the command line
[23:37] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester i have read the first link ubottu gave me but do not know really what i should do with folders like /media/windows
[23:37] <marnix> will look thx
[23:37] <stueng> ok thnks will look at that
[23:37] <stueng> Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d
[23:37] <stueng> ^ thanks
[23:38] <stueng> woh lol that didnt work.. back to gnokme fallback
[23:39] <dr_willis> stueng:  theres no longer a unity2d in 12.10 :) just in case you ever try this in 12.10
[23:40] <Feedhurley> !Partitions
[23:40] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: which partitions do you have problems with?
[23:40] <stueng> im busy setting up freenx.. messing with different sessions
[23:40] <ubuntu-tester> *partition, of the two
[23:40] <dr_willis> stueng:  whats the exact lines you put in your .xinitrc? actially its .Xsession i think these days
[23:40] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester did you see the link? (a photo there of my new formated disk, holding ext4 and ntfs).
[23:41] <zykotick9> dr_willis: .xinitrc only works with "startx"... so for DMed systems, not too helpful ;)
[23:41] <stueng> not sure, that doesnt really affect what im doing as freenx runs the command
[23:41] <dr_willis> stueng:  with remote desktops - i find the lightest is bestest.. :) somthing like openbox  with perhaps a simple file manager.
[23:41] <dr_willis> Ive seen lightdm have options to run the users .xinitrc session
[23:41] <stueng> it needs to be somewhat pretty
[23:41] <stueng> its for users
[23:41] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: yes, which of the two you can't use?
[23:41] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester i have problem with both. The ntfs partition cant be opened and the ext4 cant create or paste any files or folders into
[23:42] <dr_willis> actually i thoght freenx was supposed to run lightdm.. i never was able to get freenx working right
[23:42] <stueng> it runs gnome-fallback fine
[23:42] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: are they mentioned in fstab?
[23:42] <Feedhurley> "sudo blkid" gives me the UUID, if that was what you ment?
[23:43] <Feedhurley> for both
[23:43] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: yes, and pastebin your fstab
[23:44] <marnix> I have found 3 files fstab / fstab.BAK and fstab.d    How to restore the original file?
[23:44] <dr_willis> marnix:  i would double check the .BAK file's date and contents. then compare it to your current fstab. and if it looks ok.. copy it over
[23:44] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester http://paste.ubuntu.com/1521394/
[23:44] <Duality> hi
[23:44] <dr_willis> ive never noticed a fstab.d befor.
[23:45] <Duality> i got a firewire --> usb cable and was wondering if i can use usb port for firewire ?
[23:45] <jcao219> Does anybody know if it's possible to run testdisk and photorec both at the same time in parallel?
[23:45] <jcao219> meaning, possible and safe?
[23:46] <marnix> thx dr_willis, a newbie here, could you give me a link where I can find how to do that?
[23:46] <dr_willis> marnix:  bash basics guides. use the cp command to copy files
[23:47] <dr_willis> ive never seen a usb to firewire adaptor.
[23:47] <dr_willis> !bash
[23:47] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: remove /dev/sdb* lines from fstab, umount, reformat with gparted, add lines to fstab with parameters as suggested by oldfred.
[23:48] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: for ntfs you can also install ntfs-config and control mounting from GUI
[23:49] <ubuntu-tester> jcao219: what media are you recovering? it may be not safe
[23:50] <jcao219> ubuntu-tester: external hard drive connected to the motherboard
[23:51] <rundata> hi
[23:52] <psychopathic> hi guys
[23:54] <ubuntu-tester> jcao219: if hdd is really falling, every extra read/write opreations can sometimes add damage. it is recommended to take image of the whole disk with ddrescue (it does it clever way, while dd dumb way) and make any recovery on the image. in this case parallel ops are safe. this way requires a lot of space though.
[23:55] <stueng> !flash
[23:55] <ogist> he
[23:56] <jcao219> ubuntu-tester: thanks for the info
[23:58] <machicola> will 'gnome-session' or whichever windows session I have set up have the same PID every time I boot up?
[23:59] <machicola> i'm trying to tell a script to wait for the windows session to finish loading before running any applications
[23:59] <syncsys> my java home path is not working. $ cat /etc/environment
[23:59] <syncsys> JAVA_HOME="/home/syncsys/bin/jdk1.7.0_10"
[23:59] <syncsys> PATH="$JAVA_HOME/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[23:59] <syncsys> syncsys@sync-pc:~$ java -version
[23:59] <syncsys> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
[23:59] <FloodBot1> syncsys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.