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mantfirehi00:23
mantfirei have some error upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 with update manager00:24
mantfirei found it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/101556700:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 1015567 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" [Critical,Fix released]00:24
mantfirebut i cant find a solution or workaround00:24
mantfireanyone know some how fix it?00:25
zodiakanyone ever done any bash scripting using inotify ?00:25
zodiakwas wanting a sort of tripwire style of tool to run a custom command when a directory changes00:26
mantfireubottu i read that link but there are no solve00:26
ubottumantfire: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:26
mantfirexD00:26
zodiakburn00:27
zodiakmantfire, since no-one else is around.. let me have a look see00:27
zodiakmantfire, oh.. that's easy.. you have installed a 'non-ubuntu/xubuntu' package which clashes with an ubuntu/xubuntu one on upgrade00:28
zodiakyou probably want to pastebin up the actual apt-get dist-upgrade output00:29
mantfireok00:29
mantfirei copy it here?00:29
zodiakno.. pastebin00:29
zodiakit's going to be HUUUUUUGE00:29
zodiakso.. no.. not in here please :D00:29
mantfiresrry but what is pastebin? xD00:30
mantfirei am little new00:30
pleia2!pastebin00:30
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:30
mantfireok00:31
mantfirethanks00:31
mantfirei do it00:31
mantfireexactly what file you need?00:31
zodiakwhen you do apt-get dist-upgrade .. the output from that00:43
mantfireok00:44
mantfireok here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518717/00:49
mantfiresrry00:50
mantfirehere http://paste.ubuntu.com/1518720/00:50
mantfiretell me try apt-get -f install and i try that but get me another error00:51
holsteinmantfire: what packages have unmet dependencies?00:54
holsteinmantfire: try removing whatever you think might be "odd" and getting apt to work00:54
holsteini might run "sudo apt-get auto-remove" and see what is in the list00:54
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Unit193holstein: He hit ^C during apt-get update, so that didn't finish.00:55
mantfireok i try the autoremove and paste the exit00:55
holsteinUnit193: interesting...00:55
mantfirei update it like six times try internet solutions but nothing work00:55
greenwolfwhatever update my computer just did screwed everything up and i had to re-install Xubuntu00:56
greenwolffreaking weird...dont' understand y and how it broke my OS but it did00:57
mantfirehere the apt-get -f install paste00:57
mantfirehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1518732/00:57
mantfirethe apt-get auto-remove i get invalid operation00:58
holsteingreenwolf: i always read the list of what is going to happen00:58
mantfiremantfire@Genesis:~$ sudo apt-get auto-remove00:58
mantfireE: Operación inválida: auto-remove00:58
holsteinmantfire: sorry... sudo apt-get autoremove00:59
holsteinmantfire: use tab complete00:59
mantfireok00:59
Unit193Or sudo dpkg --configure -a00:59
mantfiremantfire@Genesis:~$ apt-get autoremove01:00
mantfireE: No se pudo abrir el fichero de bloqueo «/var/lib/dpkg/lock» - open (13: Permiso denegado)01:00
mantfireE: No se encontró un archivo de réplica «/var/lib/dpkg/»01:00
mantfiremantfire@Genesis:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a01:00
mantfiredpkg: error: analizando archivo «/var/lib/dpkg/status» cerca de la línea 49064 paquete «libao-common»: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present01:00
holsteinmantfire: sudo01:01
mantfireyes i see sorry01:01
mantfiremantfire@Genesis:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove01:01
mantfireLeyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho01:01
mantfireCreando árbol de dependencias01:01
mantfireLeyendo la información de estado... Hecho01:01
mantfireTal vez quiera ejecutar «apt-get -f install» para corregirlo.01:01
mantfireLos siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas: libc6-dev : Depende: libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu20) pero 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 está instalado01:01
mantfireE: Dependencias incumplidas. Pruebe de nuevo usando -f.01:02
Unit193holstein: Above would seem to be the issue.01:02
mantfirei found the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/101556701:02
ubottuUbuntu bug 1015567 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" [Critical,Fix released]01:02
mantfirebut they dont solve it01:02
mantfireand have like six month01:02
mantfirei try the script they put there but dont solve the problem01:03
holsteinUnit193: i agree01:09
holsteinmantfire: its not a bug though.. if you stopped an update01:09
magiK_I've sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and I gotta say this sucker is way faster than the default01:09
Unit193It's fine to Ctrl+C a apt-get update, pretty much.01:09
holsteinmantfire: also, "they" is us... you and me. those bugs are public01:09
holsteinUnit193: i thought i had, and all was well. but is that what happened?01:10
Unit193magiK_: Heh, nice.  Did you do a !purexfce type update?01:10
Unit193holstein: That's what I read in the paste, but not sure if that's all.01:10
Unit193While it's not English, I gather it has some unconfigured/configured 64bit and 32bit libs/programs.01:11
magiK_Unit193, it's not a purexfce but I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop it has all the features but I can still use gnome or the regular unity if I want.01:11
holsteinmantfire: i might just fire up synaptic and try clicking the "fix broken packages" button01:11
holsteinit is an extra challenge translating properly01:12
mantfirei do that01:12
mantfireand get the same errors01:12
holsteinmantfire: in synaptic you mean?01:12
mantfirei dont cancel the update01:12
mantfirei leave it all night and find this bug in the morning01:12
mantfireyes synaptic01:12
holsteinmantfire: what sources do you have enabled? i would clean that out01:13
mantfirei try what you tell but get the same error01:13
magiK_Unit193, I'm thinking about switching to pure xfce but I would have to completaly reinstall,  I heard this is the same as pure xfce except I can choose at the login screen which type of session I want.01:13
mantfirexubuntu amd6401:13
mantfire?01:13
Unit193!purexfce01:13
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »01:13
holsteinmantfire: PPA's.. extra sources01:13
holstein!ppa | mantfire01:13
ubottumantfire: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge01:13
Unit193magiK_: I'd personally use tasksel rather than sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:13
magiK_Unit193, to late I already used it...lol01:14
Unit193holstein: If he didn't change much, install would be easier. :P01:14
holsteinUnit193: what does that tasksel command look like?01:14
holsteinmantfire: sure.. if this is a fresh install, just reinstall01:14
mantfirei think i buy another hard disc, do some backup and do a fresh install01:14
magiK_Unit193, Tommorow on a different computer I am going to install install Xubuntu fresh install01:14
Unit193holstein: Pretty sure you can do tasksel type  but you can pick what type of system you want, web server, ssh server, the different desktops, etc.01:15
magiK_Unit193, but for this computer I am going to keep it where I can choose which I want to use at login because I have plenty of extra space for the other's as well on this computer.01:15
Unit193magiK_: Nice, that seems to be the best way to get a clean system.01:15
Unit193Coolio.01:15
magiK_Unit193, If I get bored with Xubuntu I can switch to regular Ubuntu, the new GNOME or GNOME classic01:16
mantfireby the way, you know if xubuntu have the same amazon extra in ubuntu?01:16
Unit193mantfire: It doesn't use lenses, so doesn't have the amazon lense.01:16
mantfirenice ^^01:17
mantfirethanks01:17
mantfireok i want to thanks all the help ^^01:17
magiK_Unit193, using this Xubuntu my system resources show that I am saving 600mb of free ram as opposed to 300 with regular ubuntu01:17
magiK_I'm really impressed,  I click it, it loads gotta love linux.01:18
mantfirei am thinking if i power off my pc it can restart? whit this bug01:19
fruneyhello!01:20
mantfirehi01:20
fruneyim brand-new linux user and have got a problem. can you spare me a minute?01:21
mantfireyeah sure but i am new too01:22
fruneyit's very basic01:22
fruneyi had my very first contact with linux today :D01:23
fruneyso, the thing is01:23
fruneyi fixed my old notebook by using portable xubuntu, formatting hard disk and then installing linux. it works perfectly and i got that grubb thing to choose, how do i want to run my computer01:24
fruneythat's fine01:24
fruneyi decided to get xubuntu on my new notebook, but i want to use both win7 and linux on it01:25
fruneyso i've just installed it on another partition, everything went well01:25
holsteinfruney: it?01:26
fruneyxubuntu01:26
mantfirehim have two partition, one with win7 and the other with xubuntu01:26
holsteini dont think so.. not if the drive was formatted01:26
fruneybut wait, here's the thing01:27
holsteinif the hard disk was formatted, and xubuntu was installed, then there is only xubuntu now01:27
fruneybut wait a second :D01:27
mantfirexD01:27
fruneywhen i boot my comp01:27
fruneyi don't get any grubb menu01:27
fruneyjust win7 running01:27
fruneyhow do i get to my xubuntu? :D01:27
holsteinfruney: did you reinstall win7? after installing xubuntu?01:28
mantfiremaybe your notebook new have efi bios01:28
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:28
mantfireuefi*01:28
fruneynope, i didnt reinstall windows01:28
holsteinfruney: then you have no windows01:28
fruneyi'm on windows now :D01:28
holsteinfruney: if you formatted the hard drive containing windows.. and installed xubuntu, then you have only xubuntu01:29
mantfireyou tell xubuntu install only in the non formating partition?01:29
holsteinfruney: then start over and say what you have, and what you want01:29
fruneyyeah01:29
fruneythen again:01:29
fruneyi have my notebook with win701:29
fruneyi divided hard disk into few partitions to suit my needs01:30
fruneyi wanted one of them to be the one for xubuntu01:30
holsteinfruney: elaborate about "deviding partitions"01:30
holsteinfruney: you used something like gparted and shrank your ntfs partition?01:30
fruneyyeah, like that01:31
holsteinfruney: like that? or is that what you did? you made empty space on your hard drive?01:31
fruneynope01:31
holsteinfruney: open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin that01:32
fruneyi didnt make empty space01:33
fruneyi made another drives, like D, E, etc01:33
holsteinfruney: so, from windows, you shrank your ntfs partition, and added another ntfs partition?01:34
fruneyyeah, added few more ntfs partitions01:35
holsteinfruney: few more?01:35
holsteinfruney: maybe just open a terminal and run that command so we can see what you have01:35
holsteinfruney: are you running from a live CD?01:36
fruneyagain: im on my regular, original win7 now01:36
holsteinfruney: share with me whatever information about your hard drive you can... from a live CD you can run "sudo fdisk -l"01:37
holsteinfruney: you dont see xubuntu listed when trying to boot?01:38
fruneyi got my xubuntu installed on one of those partitions, chosen xt4 for it, chosen another small partition for swap01:38
fruneyyeah, i dont get any list01:38
fruneyjust win7 running01:38
fruneyexacly as before01:38
holsteinfruney: did id ever boot?01:38
holsteindid xubuntu ever boot..01:38
fruneynope01:38
fruneyi've just installed it01:38
holsteinfruney: i would do this...01:38
fruneyrebooted a few times01:38
fruneyand still win701:39
holsteinblow out whatever is on the machine.. in the free space01:39
holsteinfruney: put the installer disk in, and install to the empty space01:39
holsteinotherwise, if you have a fuctional install, you should be able to follow that "recover grub" link i gave above01:39
holstein!grub01:39
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:39
holsteini would just reinstall letting the installer use the empty space and set up grub properly01:40
fruneyso, you mean i should delete my linux partition, leaving empty space there01:40
fruneyand setting this empty space as my new linux01:40
fruney'"partition"01:40
fruney?01:40
holsteinfruney: i suggest one of 2 things01:41
holsteinfruney: assuming you have a functional install, then recover grub using that link i gave above earlier, or just now01:41
holsteinalternatively, you can just remove the current partitions for linux.. leaving emtpy space.. boot the installer and select "use empty space" and resintall xubuntu there on that emply space where the install will configure grub properly01:42
fruneyok then01:42
fruneythank you very much01:42
fruneyi will get some sleep and try :)01:43
holsteinsure.. enjoy01:43
fruneyi will get better, i promise ;)01:43
fruneygood night and thank you again!01:43
c2tarunis Firefox 18 in repos?02:10
Unit193For quantal it is.02:11
c2tarunUnit193, not for 12.04?02:11
Unit193!info firefox precise02:11
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 18.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.3 (precise), package size 23119 kB, installed size 48580 kB02:12
Unit193c2tarun: Precise too.02:12
c2tarunUnit193, I am not seeing it in updates :(02:12
c2tarun!info firefox repository02:12
ubottu'repository' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable02:12
Unit193precise-updates should be where it is.02:13
c2tarunUnit193, let me update once again.02:13
* c2tarun gottcha :)02:14
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xubuntuhello02:46
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Guest22063Hello all I am having a problem connecting a Cisco Aironet CB21 to xubuntu 12.10, can anyone help me please. It cant be seen from the wirless connect list. Thank you in advance02:48
holsteinGuest22063: it being the ssid? do you see any access points? do you have a way to test that the machine isnt seeing *any* access points? then we can remove that router from the eqution and test the wifi device02:49
Guest22063the machine is not seeing any access points.02:49
holsteinGuest22063: ok.. then the router is irrelevant.. what wifi device do you have?02:50
holsteinis that it? the cisco?02:50
Guest22063I have a Cisco Aironet cb2102:50
holsteinGuest22063: and that is what? usb?02:50
Guest22063I get a green light when I plug it in. No it is pci i am guessing. Its in a Panasonic toughbook cf-7202:51
holsteinGuest22063: have you plugged in wired?02:51
Guest22063Is there a command that will update the drivers? I can pull up the command lspci -nn and it will show that it is plugged in. And yes I have plugged in wired and the internet works02:52
holsteinhttp://www.linlap.com/panasonic_toughbook_72 lists it as a broadcom device02:52
Guest22063Is that why it will not connect?02:53
holsteinGuest22063: are you prompted for "restricted drivers" ?02:53
holsteinGuest22063: its likely you dont have drivers installed for it at all yet02:53
holsteinGuest22063: in lspci, what is the line describing the hardware?02:53
Guest22063it says, subsystem: Cisco Aironet Wireless Communications CB21 802.11a/b/g cardbus adapter02:56
Guest22063Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9: Region 002:57
Guest22063Capabilities <access denied> : kernel modules ath5K, does this help?02:57
holsteinGuest22063: ath5k should support that device02:58
holsteinGuest22063: i might install ndisgtk and try the windows XP driver02:59
Guest22063anyway I could do a sudo apt-get install update of some sort?02:59
holsteinsudo apt-get install ndisgtk for example03:00
holsteinthat would install the ndiswrapper gui where you can try pointing to a windows driver for that device03:00
Guest22063okay I will give it a try. Thank you Holstein for helping if you can  think of anything else it would be greatly appreciated03:01
holsteinGuest22063: the driver included in the kernel should support that hardware03:01
holsteinGuest22063: cisco, and any other manufacturer is always welcome to create a driver for your hardware03:02
holsteinGuest22063: what would i do? search for bugs relating to that hardware, or just try the windows driver03:02
Guest22063I will try the windows driver in the mean time thanks again03:03
holsteinGuest22063: cheers.. good luck03:03
MoL0ToVexist a possible to configure ubuntu to automagically place in /media all the smb shares of the local net? as usb sticks and cdrom...09:37
baizonMoL0ToV: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto09:54
MoL0ToVi know how to move mountpoints, the question is another10:06
moetunes!fstab | MoL0ToV10:09
ubottuMoL0ToV: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:09
MoL0ToVi know how fstab works,10:09
MoL0ToVthe question is another10:09
moetunesthat should mention network mounts too10:09
MoL0ToVyes i know i'm able to mount a smb share via fstab10:10
baizonMoL0ToV: example sudo smbmount //192.168.2.28/projects /media/projects10:11
MoL0ToVyes, i know10:11
baizonMoL0ToV: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently10:12
MoL0ToVbut i want something that browse the lan and automount al shares10:12
baizonthis should help10:12
MoL0ToVso the shares changes dinamically, are auto updated10:12
baizonMoL0ToV: then you need a script :)10:12
baizonand that wasnt your question =)10:12
baizonnow i know what you mean10:12
MoL0ToVok thankyou!10:12
baizonMoL0ToV: http://asturio.gmxhome.de/software/sambascan2/i.html10:13
baizonthat would be something your looking for10:13
MoL0ToVpretty! ill try10:13
MoL0ToVthankyou10:13
baizonnp10:13
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ruslan_osmanovHi. Is there a deb package for SphinxSE(SPHINX) plugin for MySQL/MariaDB?12:17
MoL0ToVW: Impossibile recuperare bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_main_source_Sources  Somma hash non corrispondente12:36
MoL0ToVW: Impossibile recuperare bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_universe_source_Sources  Somma hash non corrispondente12:36
MoL0ToVhowto fix?12:36
MoL0ToVW: Impossibile recuperare bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_universe_source_Sources  Somma hash non corrispondente12:53
MoL0ToVhowto fix?12:53
koegsMoL0ToV: what does it mean in english?13:06
MoL0ToVW: inposssible get bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_universe_source_Sources bad hash sum13:08
koegsMoL0ToV: try to change to the international servers "archive.ubuntu.com" in /etc/apt/sources.list13:09
koegsthen "sudo apt-get update"13:10
MoL0ToVok thanks13:10
qasimHI13:35
qasimany c++ expert around?13:35
koegsqasim: you could ask in #xubuntu-offtopic13:36
qasimkoegs, thanks13:36
{-Dark-}hi all14:14
{-Dark-}somebody have good knowledge about x11vnc server?14:16
koegsjust ask {-Dark-}14:17
{-Dark-}yes14:17
{-Dark-}I have some trouble to have x11vnc running always in background and also start before login14:18
{-Dark-}I'm running xubuntu 12.0414:18
koegsThis look promising: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83824/how-can-i-start-a-vnc-server-before-log-on14:20
xubuntu521harro14:32
{-Dark-}thanks koegs14:34
{-Dark-}I will try in that way14:34
xubuntu521hello14:38
koegshello xubuntu52114:39
xubuntu521i have a quick question; is there any noticable difference between xubuntu standard and alternate?14:39
xubuntu521desktop and alternate*14:39
koegsxubuntu521: installer is a bit different, but in the end you will have a normal xubuntu desktop with both of them14:40
xubuntu521why would you need 2 different installers?14:41
koegssome PCs are not able to boot the live cd out of the box or in the past the alternate installer was used for installations with fully encrypted partitions, etc.14:41
{-Dark-}xubuntu521 The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Xubuntu14:41
xubuntu521alright, i'm a complete novice with linux14:42
xubuntu521so its better if i download the desktop version14:42
xubuntu521?14:42
koegsxubuntu521: yes14:42
koegsfrom 12.10 there is no alternate cd any more14:42
xubuntu521oh alright14:43
xubuntu521thanks for the quick answer!14:43
{-Dark-}alternate usually is also used for old pc with low memory or poor resources14:43
{-Dark-}go ahed with normal cd :)14:44
{-Dark-}koegs14:44
{-Dark-}about x11vnc14:44
{-Dark-}the post is not working well, strange14:44
{-Dark-}but i fixed but simply putting x11vnc script inside /etc/rc.local14:45
{-Dark-}seems to work, I will do some more test14:46
koegsgood to know14:46
AALMEIDAI'm a new user of xbuntu14:52
AALMEIDAI intal Xubuntu 12.04 in laptop centrino with 495 Mb of ram14:53
AALMEIDAI instal Xubuntu 12.04 in laptop centrino with 495 Mb of ram14:53
AALMEIDAit works14:54
{-Dark-}good14:54
AALMEIDAthe monitor defenition is 1280x80014:54
AALMEIDAwhen i start up the bottom bar disapears14:55
koegsjust move your mouse down the screen, then it will show14:55
AALMEIDAonly apears when i force the defenition to 1280x80014:55
AALMEIDAI try to find some issues obout this but I can't find any thing14:57
_helios_I just installed a fresh copy of Xubuntu 12.10 64bit everything seems to be working really smooth.16:28
baizonnice to hear16:29
_helios_baizon, it's an older system with only 800mb of RAM and it's flying16:31
c2tarunHi friends, I want to buy a wireless Keyboard Mouse combo. I was looking at Logitech site, but none of there combos has Linux support. Can anyone please suggest me any?17:04
greenwolfi used a wireless logitic mouse and works perfect on linux desktop17:05
greenwolfsays no linux support on  the package but works just fine now17:05
c2tarungreenwolf, which model?17:05
greenwolflinux willl pick it up usually17:05
greenwolfdont kno for sure i dont have it on me its at my desktop im on my laptop now and out the office17:06
greenwolftheres no drivers for it so it should just plug-n-play17:06
greenwolfmine did atleast17:06
greenwolfand it says right on the package no linux support...so but it does work i can assure you of that...buy it and save the receipt17:07
greenwolfif it works keeps it if not..no biggie send it back17:07
c2tarungreenwolf, thanks :) any idea about keyboards? Reviews at many places say that in most cases multimedia keys dont work.17:07
greenwolfbut im telling you there's no drivers for those things they just plug in and linux picks it right up17:07
greenwolfyea thats what i was just gunna say the only thing u might have problems with are the multimedia keys17:08
greenwolfeverything else will work just fine because its a basic keyboard US input17:08
greenwolfso anything will work17:08
crondI have a logitech with multimedia keys, worked out of the box17:09
c2tarungreenwolf, thanks a lot :) I dont use multimedia keys of my laptop much, but still was thinking about other keys. :)17:09
c2taruncrond, which model?17:09
crondsometimes xubuntu is a bit more finicky than gnome about such things17:09
cronduhh17:09
crondk36017:09
crondwireless17:09
greenwolfc2tarun: you should be fine...if not return it no problem just keep your recipet17:09
c2tarunok, thanks a lot guys :)17:10
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rejvenhello, can someone help me, i accidentaly deleted panel with volume control in tray, and i cant put it back17:55
jeojmy display's native resolution 1920x1080 isn't showing up in the display menu18:00
jeojis there some known cure? already tried one, but it did nothing18:00
jeojhttp://www.bingshui.org/tech/defining-display-resolutions-in-xubuntu-12-04/ <- this is what i tried18:00
ochosijeoj: that could mean that your driver doesn't support it (while your display might support it18:02
ochosi)18:03
jeojhmm..18:04
jeojis there something to do to fix it?18:05
ochosijeoj: well, first off: did it work in previous/other versions of x/ubuntu?18:06
jeojthis is a fresh install on a new computer i got today18:06
jeojbut hold on, i went to the additional drivers section18:06
jeojit looks promising18:07
ochosiok good18:07
jeojoh man18:31
jeojnow there's a "AMD - unsupported hardware" -watermark at the lower right corner18:32
holsteinjeoj: ?18:36
holsteinjeoj: i usually fire up arandr as a GUI tool for trying to find resolutions18:37
holsteinjeoj: i try whatever drivers are available.. and sometimes i use a knoppix or a puppy live CD to configure and grab the xorg.conf from there18:37
holsteinjeoj: keep in mind, the best way to "fix" this is for your vendor to provide support for you device with the operating system you are trying to use18:38
holsteinjeoj: other than that, i find i can usually experiment around and find an acceptable use case.. or if its a desktop, i just pop in a more (arguably better) supported card18:39
jeoji think i'll head to their website next.. i can now choose the appropriate resolution18:40
jeojthe card's so new it's not supported yet i suppose18:40
holsteinjeoj: in something like puppy, you can easily try the vesa driver and whatever resolution18:42
holsteinjeoj: sometimes i just like too see if its possible18:43
jeojdownloaded the driver from amd and it works perfectly now18:59
jeojthanks for the help guys!18:59
iLogicalhow do I get volume settings?20:06
recon_lapcan you see a speaker on a panel?20:08
iLogicali can see a speaker when I fn + volume up down keys20:08
iLogicalrecon_lap,20:12
recon_lapiLogical: been a while, but try add the indicator applet to your panel20:14
iLogicali've just found xfce4-mixer on the software center20:15
recon_lapiLogical: ok, this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/186205/how-to-reset-notification-area-settings , but I'm on LTS, not sure what changed in last update20:18
Glitchdhello all=)21:03
Glitchdtrying to figure out how to add "x11vnc" to the autostart apps so it starts at boot and i can access the desktop from somewhere else, however, i am unable to figure it out. Help?21:04
baizonGlitchd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto21:05
Glitchdthx baizon21:06
Glitchdill check it out21:06
baizonnp21:06
ChrisWereI've found yet another bug in xubuntu. My c15 logitech cam doesn't work in guvciew. Anyone know how to fix this? I gotta say I'm getting pretty bored of spending most of my time working out these issues.22:59
TheSheep!bugs | ChrisWere23:05
ubottuChrisWere: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:05
ChrisWereI'd like to know how to get it working23:09
knomeChrisWere, have you googled whether the camera is known to work in linux generally?23:11
ChrisWereYes it is supported23:18
knomeok, so can you elaborate what "does not work" means? does it work in other applications? is it recognized by the system?23:19
ChrisWereit's recognise by the system, it works on vlc and other software. Obviously because of that dumb bug every has in flash I don't know if flash will pick it up. But I know it's detected23:19
knomeif it's a bug in guvciew, i don't know if there are better ways to get it fixed than searching if there are fixes for that and filing a bug if one isn't filed yet23:21
ChrisWerewhy are there so many buggy things in ubuntu? I feel I'm always here.23:22
ChrisWereI've been googling for ages. I think I might have to ditch this and go back to windoze, which sucks i know.23:22
knometrying to put it simply and shortly: developers can only fix bugs they know of, and if it's hardware related, they might need more input than usual from reporters. since many are volunteers, it's not always said that they have the motivation to fix every bug, even if they were relatively trivial.23:24
ChrisWereBug reporting isn't relly going to help me know though is it?23:25
knomeno, it's not going to help you *right now* - but if you don't file the bug, it's probable the developer will never know you had the bug, and it won't be fixed ever.23:26
knomefiling a bug in windows isn't going to help you *right now* either, is it? :)23:27
ChrisWereIt works in windows23:28
knomethat's not what i was talking about23:28
ChrisWereCan you help me or not?23:29
knomefile a bug.23:29
knomeno, i can't fix it right now, i'm not a guvciew developer, nor do i own that hardware to see how it could be fixed23:29
knomeif it's recognized by the system, maybe you can find an alternative for guvciew23:30
pleia2might try something that's in the ubuntu archives, that software tends to be better supported and has testers in the ubuntu community23:31
ChrisWereI'm actually updating from 12.04 to 12.10 at the moment hoping that'll fix it.23:32

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